Blue Origin, Pigeons & Amicable Breakups

This week, Vogue's in Howth (of course she gets the mention in) and Joanne is back in London, getting to know the local wildlife. In case you missed it... An all female crew went to 'space' and the internet had a lot to say about it... Reaction here. Plus, tea-making, breakup revenge (a fave topic) and Coachella. If you’d like to get in touch, you can send an email to [email protected] Please review Global's Privacy Policy: https://global.com/legal/privacy-policy/ For merch, tour dates and more visit: www.mytherapistghostedme.com Joanne's comedy gigs: www.joannemcnally.com Vogue's Book Tour: www.fane.co.uk/vogue-williams This episode contains explicit language and adult themes that may not be suitable for all listeners.

• 0:02Speaker 00

  This is a Global Player original podcast.

• 0:15Speaker 01

  Hello and welcome to My Therapist Goes With Me with me, Vogue Williams and

• 0:19Speaker 02

  You say it.

• 0:21Speaker 01

  Joanne McNally. Say my name bitch.

• 0:26Speaker 01

  Joanne McNally and there's Jo Ashwell, he's back from his five weeks off. Yay.

• 0:36Speaker 02

  Drinking tea. Looks very weak.

• 0:38Speaker 01

  It looks very weak tea.

• 0:40Speaker 02

  My tea, my tea game is the most controversial thing about me.

• 0:44Speaker 01

  See, I've never seen you have tea, so I don't know, I'm quite, I didn't know if that was tea or orange juice, it was so.

• 0:49Speaker 02

  I'm a new, I don't. Got a little cup of milk there. So I, so it's barbaric what I do and I've been, I've had, it's like I say, I've had dogs abuse over before, but I just, as we know, I'm not big into finesse. I'm not very refined.

• 1:06Speaker 01

  Or looking after yourself. Can I tell you what you do? I bet, before you even say it, will I tell you what you do?

• 1:10Speaker 02

  Yeah, you can guess my tea making, guess the process. So we've three things at play. We have a tea bag, we have milk, we have water.

• 1:17Speaker 01

  Okay, so you put the tea bag in, you put the water in, you put the milk straight in and then off you go and just let the tea do its work as you're wandering around with the tea?

• 1:24Speaker 02

  Very close, very close folk, but not quite.

• 1:28Speaker 01

  I didn't say boiling water either, it could be tepid.

• 1:31Speaker 02

  Sometimes it is a little tepid, I don't know how to work that smeg.

• 1:35Speaker 01

  Did you get a smeg kettle?

• 1:36Speaker 02

  I did indeed. Do you remember I got ripped off and then I, do you remember, do you remember the, remember I got ripped off and I bought a smeg kettle for like two shillings or something? My mother sent me a TikTok link, that didn't work. And then I actually bought a smeg kettle. I said, Joanne, stop being a, just buy the fucking kettle. No, worse than that, I put the tea bag in, put the milk in while the kettle's boiling. And then just throw the thing in and just, and then, and then I will give it an L squeeze. I've given that bag a squeeze there now.

• 2:04Speaker 01

  You're not meant to, you're not meant to mess with the tea bag, you have to let it do its own job.

• 2:09Speaker 02

  Don't interfere with it.

• 2:10Speaker 01

  Don't interfere.

• 2:11Speaker 02

  I meant, look at me interfering with it, look. How does that make you feel? Look and dangle it, look at that. Poor thing.

• 2:19Speaker 02

  It's actual teabagging.

• 2:21Speaker 00

  It's gone in her mouth then.

• 2:22Speaker 02

  It's gone in my mouth there now, for the listeners. Um, I have friends who, like, they take their tea making very seriously. I have other friends who reuse teabags. How do you feel about that? Who? Who? Name and shame those people right now. That is, that's unacceptable. Yeah, they reuse them. They like wring them out and reuse them. And do you know what? I understand it. I don't know whether it's an environmental thing, an economic thing, a financial thing. I don't know. I don't know. But they, they reuse their teabags. Do you know pigs eat teabags? Pigs eat mainly anything, but they'll eat a teabag. Yeah, well, I guess because they, yeah, I don't, I wouldn't, I couldn't say I'm shocked by that. No, they, they'll eat mostly. I think they eat each other. Like, I think they don't, farmers sometimes kill pigs and then feed them back to themselves, or is that the case? Yeah, they're like eating their own kids and all. It's fucking terrible.

• 3:07Speaker 00

  That is just, God.

• 3:09Speaker 02

  Sorry, speaking of kids, congratulations, Jo, you're back. Yes.

• 3:13Speaker 00

  Thank you, hello.

• 3:14Speaker 02

  You haven't eaten her yet, have you?

• 3:16Speaker 00

  No, not eaten her yet. No need for that just yet.

• 3:20Speaker 02

  Not eaten her yet. Well, wait till the water shortage just starts, Jo, when the apocalypse comes. But anyway, that's a conversation for another day. Jo is back after how long, Jo?

• 3:30Speaker 00

  Uh, that was five weeks I had off there. It was very nice.

• 3:32Speaker 02

  Four more weeks in Vogue. Yeah, I'll keep that in mind, Jo. I'll keep that in mind.

• 3:36Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 3:36Speaker 02

  We, we've missed you. We loved having Emily. She was fantastic and we missed you. Yeah.

• 3:41Speaker 00

  Emily's fantastic. I've been listening as a, as a listener, as a fan.

• 3:45Speaker 02

  Oh, oh God, oh God, what a. That's, that's your first line.

• 3:49Speaker 00

  From time to time, I sort of, I gave it a quick speed listen.

• 3:52Speaker 02

  Tom to Tom, you're a little liar, Jo. You didn't, you didn't listen once. You know, you know, we, we know how it works. We look at each other twice a week and between those times, no one can look each other in the eye or speak to each other and then we come back on.

• 4:04Speaker 00

  Now I need to know what I was coming back to. I needed to know if, if one of you had assumed a different identity.

• 4:10Speaker 02

  Yeah, you need to know if the feud was real.

• 4:14Speaker 01

  Sorry, can I just say, no one actually has any pity for me. I have to do this podcast and then I have to listen back to it every week. Do you know how hard that is sometimes? Having to listen to myself talk.

• 4:25Speaker 02

  I'm trying to figure out how best to ingest your book because I really want to read it, but I don't, I'm a, I'm a big audiobook fan, but I don't know if I can listen to you talk for nine hours or whatever it is.

• 4:33Speaker 01

  I don't, listen, I had to read that book four times by the time, because you know, when I finished the book, I was like, right, and finish the book. And then it's like, no, now the edit happens and I'm on the fourth time reading it and I hate myself.

• 4:48Speaker 02

  I might have to hire someone to read it to me.

• 4:52Speaker 02

  I might have to hire someone to read it to me. I really might.

• 4:55Speaker 01

  I could AI the voice and get changed the.

• 4:58Speaker 02

  Oh, that's what I'll do. I'll put it into the chat GPT AI pot.

• 5:01Speaker 01

  Yes, and get someone else to do it in a different voice. You could have an accent. What's your favourite accent?

• 5:07Speaker 02

  I'd listen to Crazy Frog do it for nine hours rather than you. I've just, I can't.

• 5:12Speaker 01

  Put, put me in Dutch, put me in Dutch.

• 5:21Speaker 02

  So coming up, penophiles coming soon. I'm in Southend on the 22nd of April. I'm in Bury St Edmund's, April 23rd. I'm in Colchester, April 24th. Oh, and there's tickets for Leicester on the 17th of May and the 16th of May. And then I'm in Europe. So I've got Lisbon and Berlin and all those kind of fun places. And all the tickets are on joannemcnae.com.

• 5:42Speaker 01

  Oh, and I am on tour with my book, Two Dates on Tour.

• 5:49Speaker 01

  Joanna's, Joanna's on tour. I am doing Two Dates. Joanna's opted to Europe.

• 5:56Speaker 01

  If you'd like, if you'd like, come to my two show tour.

• 6:00Speaker 02

  Your, your book's not even out yet.

• 6:02Speaker 01

  My book's not even out yet, but it is on preorder on my Instagram and I'm in Vicker Street, the 26th of May, and I'm gonna have Garan Noon. He is gonna be the host of that evening. And then the 27th in Union Chapel in London, it's low tickets on that one. And it's Lou Sanders, who is, um, yeah, I love Lou Sanders.

• 6:21Speaker 02

  She's great.

• 6:22Speaker 01

  Yeah, she's gonna be the host for that one. So that's also on my Instagram bio on my tour. I'll be wrecked. I'll be knackered.

• 6:30Speaker 02

  We'll have to get you a drip.

• 6:32Speaker 01

  I won't be able for it. When will I have time to train, Joanne?

• 6:36Speaker 02

  Oh, you'll still fit it in. I have faith in you.

• 6:40Speaker 01

  I'm gonna send you-

• 6:41Speaker 02

  You'll be squatting on the stage. You'll be lifting kettlebells in the wings before you pop out.

• 6:47Speaker 01

  I'm sending you resistance bands for your tour. I'm gonna, I'm gonna keep you in check. You're getting those little packing bags, packing cubes and resistance bands. Happy tour to you.

• 6:56Speaker 02

  It's a new me, I'm telling you. This one's gonna be totally different. You're not gonna know me. I'm gonna leave this tour in a better place, physically and mentally than when I started, which has never happened before. That's my promise to myself.

• 7:09Speaker 01

  Joe, would you mind keeping a tab on that?

• 7:13Speaker 02

  I have new neighbours who've moved in upstairs and they're very heavy on the, on the, on the floors.

• 7:21Speaker 01

  I forgot to call down, sorry, I have moved in.

• 7:23Speaker 02

  You've moved in upstairs. The gaggle, the Williams are upstairs. And last night I was sitting in bed and they were very heavy on the floors. And I was like, I fucking, and I was like, Joanne, I was like, what lady, I was like, you're not, what's your man from Friends with the sweeping brush? He used to bang on the floor.

• 7:39Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 7:41Speaker 02

  And then Chander nearly turned into him.

• 7:43Speaker 01

  Mr. Heckles.

• 7:45Speaker 02

  Mr. Heckles!

• 7:45Speaker 01

  Mr. Heckles!

• 7:47Speaker 02

  I was like, wow, this is the closest I've come to turning into a full-blown Mr. Heckles. I was gonna take my mic stand and start banging on the ceiling. Keep it down! I don't know what they're doing up there!

• 7:59Speaker 01

  Do you know what might have happened? The old people might have moved out, taken their rugs with them, and that would have been blocking the noise from the floor. Because in some apartments, you're not even allowed to pull up your carpet. You have to legally have carpet down because the noise travels so much.

• 8:12Speaker 02

  Oh, that's what it is!

• 8:15Speaker 01

  Get them onto Ruggable.

• 8:17Speaker 02

  You know you'd, you know you've studied engineering, Vogue.

• 8:19Speaker 01

  Thank you very much.

• 8:20Speaker 02

  Or whatever. You did. Corp, what a construction. Joe, what the fuck was I gonna say to you? I'm raging now.

• 8:26Speaker 01

  Joe, poor Joe looks absolutely knackered. He's, he's not gonna remember either.

• 8:31Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 8:33Speaker 02

  Joe, you look like, oh, this is what I was gonna say to you, Joe. But just as I was about to say, I said, Joe, you look like a new, I said, you look like a newborn father.

• 8:42Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 8:43Speaker 02

  That's what you have, the look of someone who's run ragged. But when I, when I was in New York, after some of the shows, I was, I was having some drinks with some of the girls who'd been to the shows. Cause they're like, it's, they're smaller rooms and stuff, you're kind of buzzing around the bar. And one of them asked me, do you ever mind when we're mean to you? And I thought, I think she, she seemed like she felt a little sorry for you. And I said, no, I said, and then I was like, oh my God, are we mean to Joe? No, we're not.

• 9:10Speaker 00

  No, it's, it's mean in that way that you're mean to, you can only be mean to people that you love like that. I know it's love, really.

• 9:17Speaker 02

  Yes, it's a nagging, we're nagging you, really.

• 9:20Speaker 00

  Yeah, I know that.

• 9:20Speaker 02

  But it comes from a good place and we hardly ever hit you, only if you're really bold. Yeah, if you're really bold.

• 9:27Speaker 00

  Broadly deserve it, I think.

• 9:28Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah.

• 9:29Speaker 01

  I think it's more of an Irish thing as well, is what I like to say, cause I used to, when Spenny and I used to do the pod together, people would be like, God, it's like she hates him. And I was like, no, that, that, if the more I slag him, the more I love him. Like, that's, that's how it works in Ireland.

• 9:42Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's, it's very toxic kind of abusive situation, to be fair.

• 9:46Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 9:46Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 9:47Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 9:47Speaker 02

  That's how we do it over there.

• 9:49Speaker 01

  You know, you know, and even in a conversation in Ireland, if you say a word wrong, like the whole group will turn at you and be like, ah! It's like, oh God.

• 9:59Speaker 02

  I know, you do one thing in your life and then they bring up a nickname that sticks with you forever.

• 10:04Speaker 01

  One of the most embarrassing things that happened to me when I was younger, and it's only because it was in Ireland, I don't think it would have been as bad if I was growing up anywhere else. There was this group of boys that weren't from our school, so they were like the special boys and we like loved them. And we went to a house party and I got so deranged, I was trying to kiss one of them. But I was obviously so pissed and he clearly didn't fancy me. And I tried to kiss him and he wouldn't kiss me, but I did it like six or seven times. And the slagging, honestly, the girls sometimes will still say it to me today and I'm like, when I think about it, I'm like, oh God.

• 10:36Speaker 02

  They're like, oh, here she comes, seven kiss Sandra. It'll be that kind of thing. Yeah, yeah. Here she comes, desperate Danielle. That'll stick with you for the rest of your life then. Yeah.

• 10:48Speaker 01

  Forever. And now he's moved to Hoth and I'm like, oh Christ.

• 10:53Speaker 02

  Here she comes, sleazy Ciara. You can choose any of them, Vogue, you can have any of them.

• 10:59Speaker 01

  I think, actually, I would like to be sleazy Ciara, thank you so much.

• 11:02Speaker 02

  Sleazy Ciara, you can have that. Yeah, it's a nice hashtag as well.

• 11:05Speaker 01

  Yeah, it would work quite well. Do you want to hear some, do you want to have a good, what day is it today? Good news, is it Wednesday? Good News Wednesday, we're recording on a Wednesday. Good News Wednesday?

• 11:15Speaker 02

  But when's it going out? It's going out Friday, so.

• 11:17Speaker 00

  Good News Friday.

• 11:18Speaker 01

  Okay, we'll say Good News Friday.

• 11:21Speaker 01

  What have I gotten back?

• 11:24Speaker 02

  Your bag?

• 11:26Speaker 01

  No. Saint Anthony had his work cut out.

• 11:31Speaker 02

  Sorry, Vogue, can I stop you there? Because this is a really good way of checking to see if Joe actually listens to the podcast.

• 11:36Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 11:36Speaker 02

  Or if he's feeling shit. Joe, what does, can we just take a second? What does the bag refer to?

• 11:41Speaker 00

  Uh, the, um. Yeah, that would have been the bag, I'd have said last week, probably.

• 11:47Speaker 01

  What bag?

• 11:48Speaker 02

  What bag, Joe?

• 11:49Speaker 01

  It wasn't last week.

• 11:49Speaker 02

  What are you Googling, Joe? You can see it, he's tapping. I fucking knew it. Listen, Joe, I wouldn't, I don't even listen to the podcast.

• 11:57Speaker 01

  Oh, oh, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, the bonus only goes out today.

• 12:02Speaker 02

  Oh shit, it hasn't aired yet.

• 12:04Speaker 00

  There you go. That's why I haven't heard the bag.

• 12:08Speaker 01

  Well, we're not telling you about it, you have to listen.

• 12:10Speaker 02

  Well, you tried to cover your tracks there, fair play.

• 12:14Speaker 01

  So, now, it's not back in my actual hands, but fair play to Gatwick Airport. They found the bag.

• 12:22Speaker 02

  How?

• 12:24Speaker 01

  I don't, well, because I suppose people probably think it's explosives or something in the bag. I left my bag in the airport, Joe, by an accident, and I was hoping to get it back. But honestly, did you think I'd get it back? Be honest.

• 12:34Speaker 02

  No, I didn't.

• 12:35Speaker 01

  No way.

• 12:36Speaker 02

  I really didn't.

• 12:37Speaker 01

  It was gorgeous, it was a brand new hand luggage, like, I would have, it would have been tough not to steal it myself.

• 12:42Speaker 02

  Oh, the relief, the bores of that.

• 12:45Speaker 01

  I haven't got it back yet, because you have to pay 15 quid for them to have found it for you, like a finder's fee, fair, don't care. And then they send it back, which is, it's 60 quid to get my bag back, but listen, I'm thrilled. It hasn't arrived back, but I'm absolutely thrilled.

• 12:58Speaker 02

  And I wonder, is everything in it? Is everything in it? Is everything in it?

• 13:00Speaker 01

  Listen, it's mainly about the hand, it's mainly about the luggage, I want.

• 13:04Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 13:04Speaker 01

  So, thank you to, to, I'd like to thank the listeners, I'd like to thank Gatwick Airport, and I'd like to thank Saint Anthony. I'm absolutely delighted, it's made my week.

• 13:14Speaker 02

  Good old Anto.

• 13:15Speaker 01

  Yeah, sorting my life out.

• 13:17Speaker 02

  Fair play to him. I remember it was the same. I left a, I left a wallet with my passport, all bank cards in JFK Airport. The last time I was in America, when I landed, when I was trying to get one of those trolleys and you have to pay with the card to get a trolley to get your luggage out. And I leave the thing on top of the machine.

• 13:33Speaker 01

  Oh, God.

• 13:34Speaker 02

  And like the passport now and all, you know yourself.

• 13:38Speaker 01

  Do you know, do you know, you already just told us about a story about when you lost your passport in the airport. And now you're telling another story about losing another passport.

• 13:50Speaker 02

  And how am I, the fact that I update my passport so often and I'm still ugly in the photo. You'd think I'd learn my lesson. Still a terrible photo every time. You'd want to see the photo on my American visa. You'd want to see the photo, you'd want to see the photo of the American visa. I only found them, the spare photos in the drawer there the other day. Wow. How anyone's ever ridden me is a fucking miracle, frankly.

• 14:14Speaker 01

  Did you ever see when Kim went to get her picture taken, Kim Kardashian in the DMV and she brought her hair and makeup and her whole glam and they had all this lighting around. Now she looked amazing.

• 14:23Speaker 02

  Good for her.

• 14:24Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's 10 years. You've got to look at that shit.

• 14:26Speaker 02

  Yeah, there's, there's something, it's like the overhead lighting and those, those photo booths are the opposite of.

• 14:35Speaker 01

  Kind too.

• 14:36Speaker 02

  Kind.

• 14:37Speaker 01

  Well, I go in and get one taken, but I get really embarrassed and flustered. So like by the second time, I'm like, no, can you do it once more? I'm like, I can't ask again.

• 14:44Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 14:45Speaker 01

  And the others are gone then. You're like, I wish I'd just taken photo one. And now like I'm stuck on photo gargoyle three.

• 14:51Speaker 02

  I know. Yeah. It's terrible when you say, when you run out of confidence to ask for another girl in the photo, because you can see the person behind the cameras like, it's not my fault you're in this. Okay. I have a life to live. I have to get out of here.

• 15:00Speaker 01

  I can't flash the ugly away. Tough luck.

• 15:03Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 15:09Speaker 01

  Have you ever had an oat flat white?

• 15:11Speaker 02

  I have.

• 15:11Speaker 01

  I had never had one before, some parts, but I was ordering a double espresso with hot milk and they kept thinking I was ordering a double espresso with oat milk. So I was having oat milk. No, it's not even going to be funny. It doesn't matter.

• 15:28Speaker 02

  Can we talk about the new story of potentially the year?

• 15:32Speaker 01

  I, I'll never be able to get enough of it. My boots will never be full.

• 15:36Speaker 02

  Your space boots?

• 15:37Speaker 01

  My space boots will never be full. And do you know what?

• 15:39Speaker 02

  Your main boots?

• 15:40Speaker 01

  After not wanting to go to space, where do you think I just want to go now? I want to go to space.

• 15:45Speaker 02

  Well, I mean, it's space. It's 62 miles up in the air. Basically, it's...

• 15:50Speaker 01

  Space-ish.

• 15:51Speaker 02

  Spacey, spacey, space-ish. I mean, where do we even start? Firstly, can I just caveat this story by saying, people have just turned on Katy Perry now. Katy Perry's just it. And I feel, I actually feel bad for her. Because I, like, like I've said before, I don't like when people turn on people like that in ma- en masse like that. I also think, even though this spaceship trip has been billed as kind of a feminist... It's a P O stunt, ultimately.

• 16:20Speaker 01

  They wanted to go to space and she got offered to go to space for free.

• 16:23Speaker 02

  Six women boarded Blue Origin's New Shepard rocket, marking the first all-female flight since 1963. Oh, so there has been a previous all-female flight?

• 16:32Speaker 01

  Yeah, it was one woman on her own.

• 16:34Speaker 02

  Oh, one woman on her own, of course. Doing it by herself. That flight saw Cos- Cosmonaut.

• 16:41Speaker 01

  Russian space lady.

• 16:42Speaker 02

  Oh. Russian space lady.

• 16:44Speaker 01

  Is that her name? Cosmonaut? Or that was the...

• 16:47Speaker 02

  That'd be great, wouldn't it?

• 16:48Speaker 01

  Yeah. That's what Russians call astronauts, I think. They call them cosmonauts. Oh, I prefer that.

• 16:52Speaker 02

  That's when, like, when you meet a stripper called Crystal, you're like, well, what else are you going to be in? She's like, no, Crystal's my stripper now.

• 16:57Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 16:58Speaker 02

  Um, Valentina Tushkova orbits Earth 48 times on a solo mission lasting three days. Now, that is impressive.

• 17:05Speaker 01

  I think, to be honest with you, I'd prefer to do what the girls did there the other day. They went up, they went down, they didn't have to stick or... They didn't even need, you were talking about spacients, they didn't even need to take water with them. They were only up and down 11 minutes. I know you take the strap on with you, but they only had their, they had nothing.

• 17:21Speaker 02

  My ankle flask. As quickly as they'd taken off, the crew landed back in Texas. So it was actually, it was actually shorter. They were, they were gone for, I think, approximately 11 minutes.

• 17:30Speaker 01

  Yeah, perfect.

• 17:31Speaker 02

  My foot, so we had Katy Perry, we had Gayle King.

• 17:35Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 17:35Speaker 02

  Lauren Sanchez.

• 17:37Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 17:37Speaker 02

  Amanda Wayne, Aisha Bow. They all spat up. It was like one of those, it was like a fancy thunderland trip. Do you know that, did you know that ride where you get spat up the tube, you go real all the way and you nearly vomit and then you come straight back down? Which I think actually lasts longer than 11 minutes. So there was a whole big hullabaloo. And but the funniest part of the health, obviously there's all the drama around the fact that the fucking atmosphere and we're here sucking on paper straws. Like Jeff isn't doing enough damage to the environment with this Amazon bullshit. And now we're fucking adding to it all. It's a joke. But like you made the valid point folk, everything's a joke if you unpack it. Like what's the point of anything really?

• 18:13Speaker 01

  I mean, they all obviously wanted to go. I think he did pay for that flight. Imagine someone was like, here, do you want to go to space for 11 minutes? You'd probably be like, where am I not?

• 18:21Speaker 02

  I don't, yeah, there's something to, see, so Katy Perry is, she's kind of getting all the main shit because she's probably the most pop.

• 18:28Speaker 01

  Famous, she's the, yeah.

• 18:29Speaker 02

  Mainstream one, yeah. But she, when did she get so hippy dippy? She's talking about love and light and her higher power and her higher self and connection to the world. And I don't know when she got so woo woo.

• 18:40Speaker 01

  I think it happened when, when your man was riding behind her naked on the paddleboard because that's when they went a bit hippy dippy.

• 18:47Speaker 02

  Orlando.

• 18:48Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 18:49Speaker 02

  Yeah, maybe they went a bit hippy dippy together.

• 18:51Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 18:52Speaker 02

  But, but she released her, so she's about to go on tour and her last single wasn't, didn't do very well because everyone was like, oh, you've kind of, you're bringing us old feminism with your kind of swinging cupcake tits and your lollipop hats. Whereas things have kind of moved on now. We've got more serious issues at play. So she got a bit of backlash there. But she, so she's about to go on tour, but when she was up in the sky, she released her setlist.

• 19:15Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 19:18Speaker 01

  Oh, it's a bit crude.

• 19:20Speaker 02

  It's supposed to be like. And then when she came, and then they all sang, sang a chorus of what a wonderful world and came back down. It's a bit up its own hull is what it is.

• 19:27Speaker 00

  She have a daisy? I think I thought, I saw she had a daisy.

• 19:29Speaker 01

  Her kid, her kid is a daisy. Her kid is called Daisy.

• 19:32Speaker 02

  Her kid's called Daisy, but that, when she dragged that, that to me looked like she last minute panicked and she forgot to bring something on and she just fucking plugged a daisy.

• 19:39Speaker 01

  No, no, no. That's her kids.

• 19:43Speaker 02

  Would you not bring a photo of the baby?

• 19:47Speaker 01

  Can I just also say one thing? Like, I've never had any interest in space personally, but like, it looked fun floating around. But it also must have been a little bit scary. Like, I've seen so many of those rockets explode. I'm like, like, you wouldn't be a hundred per cent sure you wouldn't explode.

• 20:02Speaker 02

  They didn't even break this, they didn't even break the sabre. Like I said, the Eurostar goes further.

• 20:07Speaker 01

  It's actually really hard to be, it's really hard not to slag it. I'm trying.

• 20:10Speaker 02

  I know. I mean, I want to support, do you know what? Okay. I, I, I hate watching women shit on other women. But it's, it's a level of bubblegum feminism that it's very hard to get behind. I saw one journalist describe it as an Uber. She's just got a fucking Uber up this guy and just came back down. And calling them astronauts when there's people, like, they did two days' training. Two days' training. You wouldn't even get into the Aer Lingus lounge on two days' training.

• 20:36Speaker 01

  Of course you wouldn't.

• 20:37Speaker 02

  Astronauts. It's insane.

• 20:41Speaker 01

  One thing I did love from it were a few of the memes that I saw. Have you seen any of the memes?

• 20:46Speaker 02

  Yeah, of course.

• 20:47Speaker 01

  There was one that was like, there's a picture of all the girls up in space, all the women up in space, and it's like the bachelorette party at the gay bar ruining everyone's good time.

• 20:59Speaker 02

  Did you see Gayle King's face when she was about, when she was ringing the bell about to board?

• 21:04Speaker 01

  No.

• 21:05Speaker 02

  They all rang this bell on the way to the rocket or the Uber, whatever we're calling it. And I didn't realise Gayle King is terrified of flying, but her face, she looks like she's about to board the barge of a hen party that she has no interest in being on for the day. Like, it's this, it's this dread in her eyes. But I didn't realise it's because she's scared of space. Or not scared of space, sorry, scared of flying.

• 21:25Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 21:26Speaker 02

  But like, what an extreme version of flying. Do you know what I mean?

• 21:29Speaker 01

  Gayle King, there's one, there's a picture of Gayle King, and it's like Gayle King confirms Katy Perry's song in space. And then underneath it, it's like, no wonder they came back so quickly.

• 21:40Speaker 02

  People are mean, but that's funny.

• 21:43Speaker 01

  I think, I think kissing the ground for me, Katy Perry kissing the ground for me. Like, you can understand those astronauts that have been there since last February.

• 21:51Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 21:52Speaker 01

  Probably like, oh my god, I thought I'd never come back to earth, but you're only gone a hot, a hot minute.

• 21:56Speaker 02

  With their 19 years of training. I mean, I would have been nervous going up to space as well, but it's all, it's all just a bit much. It's just a bit much.

• 22:07Speaker 01

  I tell you what.

• 22:08Speaker 02

  But like I say, it's a PR stunt.

• 22:09Speaker 01

  Yeah, I wouldn't be going to space now myself, actually, thinking about it. I don't like, I, I thought I might wanna go at the start of this conversation and I'm like, no, they actually got a lot of abuse for us. I'd actually rather.

• 22:18Speaker 02

  Yeah, no.

• 22:18Speaker 01

  I'm trying to avoid that kind of trauma in my life.

• 22:21Speaker 02

  Yeah, we need to keep the head down now, Vogue. There's no point in us going to space. We don't need that kind of attention.

• 22:25Speaker 01

  I'm scared to fly back to London at this stage, Jesus.

• 22:29Speaker 02

  They're calling it a rich person's roller coaster. We want no part of this at all.

• 22:34Speaker 01

  Well, I suppose it is.

• 22:36Speaker 02

  Of course it is.

• 22:37Speaker 01

  Not just, it's a mega rich person's roller coaster.

• 22:40Speaker 02

  Katy Perry was kinda recommending it. She was like, you must go. You must. If you get the chance to go to space, girls, you must go. She must have went to the girl's trip to space. It's, it's kind of a fun read, but also a terrifying read. Apparently it admitted the same emissions as like 600,000 households per year. All their shit.

• 22:57Speaker 01

  What?

• 22:58Speaker 02

  And then, because, and then the celebrities kinda slagging it off, which.

• 23:03Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 23:04Speaker 02

  I know, I know, I know we're kinda having a little go on the podcast, but like, we're not, we're not.

• 23:08Speaker 01

  We're having a.

• 23:09Speaker 02

  And not on the podcast.

• 23:10Speaker 01

  Next week you'll see on my Instagram, I've been to space, I couldn't recommend it more, hashtag ad.

• 23:15Speaker 02

  A hundred percent. You'd be off to space with Perry.

• 23:21Speaker 02

  They've sent you up in a pod. You're up in a pod, in a cleaning pod.

• 23:29Speaker 01

  Go to space to get your wides even wider.

• 23:32Speaker 02

  Vogue Williams doesn't allow anyone sip of cider on trip to space with Perry.

• 23:37Speaker 01

  Vogue Williams makes Katy Perry move from her seat on the way to space.

• 23:42Speaker 02

  At least we acknowledge our own hypocrisies, do you know what I mean? We're like, you know.

• 23:51Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah. No, tell us. Now, I saw, did you see the thing that Em Rata said?

• 23:57Speaker 02

  I thought it was a bit much, you know, I have to say. Do you know Em Rata, Jo? Emily Radkowski. Well done.

• 24:02Speaker 01

  She bloody knows her, hello.

• 24:05Speaker 02

  Yeah, she looks like she was designed in a lab by a 14 year old boy. That's what I say about her.

• 24:09Speaker 01

  She looks like an AI. Yeah, she's just perfection. We're not gonna take that away. Yeah.

• 24:16Speaker 01

  She's so pretty, I wouldn't want to, I wouldn't be able to, my confidence wouldn't allow myself to be friends with her. I know that sounds so shallow.

• 24:23Speaker 02

  That's highly insulting to me. And Jo.

• 24:26Speaker 01

  Well, Joanne, why do you think I never hang around with you? I only see you on the pod. I can't take it.

• 24:30Speaker 02

  Yeah, sure. You're always fucking banging on that door trying to get into the flat to feel better about yourself. Send me more of your naked photos, Joanne. They really give me a lift.

• 24:40Speaker 02

  Turn around? Yeah, that's great. Now that I've had a good look at your naked ass, I can get out of my day.

• 24:45Speaker 01

  Go into the Zara changing room and get a picture for me there, will you? The ugliest pictures.

• 24:52Speaker 02

  I'll send you my passport photos, Mo. You'll, you'll look happy.

• 24:56Speaker 01

  I'd rather the Visa ones if you wouldn't mind, actually.

• 25:02Speaker 01

  Okay, so Em Rata said the space mission this morning, that's end time shit. That you care about Mother Earth and it's about Mother Earth and you're going up in a spaceship that is built and paid for by a company that's single-handedly destroying the planet. Look at the state of the world. Think about how many resources went into putting these women into space. He continued, for what? For what? What was the marketing there? I'm disgusted, literally. I mean, she's put us like, can you stand behind, I do, I do, listen, I agree with that. If it's like six, I didn't know it was like that bad for the environment, like 600,000. It's pretty, it is pretty bad, but like.

• 25:39Speaker 02

  And it's Amazon. Like, why? Like, like they're running the, like, they're part of the massive, we've, we've spoken about this before. Us plebs down on earth rinsing out our yoga curtains. And this, as I was recalling, the rich person's rollercoaster up to space, which costs like 11 million, I think, or something like that. Now, it's his money. He can do what he wants with it, but like, we've obviously, that's from us buying fucking like,

• 26:02Speaker 01

  I know.

• 26:03Speaker 02

  Hooks for the back of our door for 19 years of him, or whatever we're buying off him. Shocking Katy Perry video resurfaces undermining all her claims about Blue Origin trip.

• 26:14Speaker 01

  Oh no.

• 26:15Speaker 02

  Climate experts say the 11 minute trip was enough to, in inverted commas, alter the atmosphere. And the video is like, hi, I'm Katy Perry, let's take a journey to see how a man made climate changes hurting children around the world, she said in the clip filling for uni stuff. I mean, it's not, this is what I mean. She didn't just go because she wanted to go to space, she went because she thought it would elevate her tour. You don't just do these things. And it's so, it was, it was a silly, silly move.

• 26:40Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 26:41Speaker 02

  It was a silly move, in my, in my ex-publicist opinion.

• 26:44Speaker 01

  I still, I still, yes, I would say it is a silly move, but I still, I hate when people just rain on other people so bad.

• 26:49Speaker 02

  So do I. I agree. And I, and I, it's, and as well, I, I haven't seen, like, I haven't, there's been all, all male crews have gone to space celebrities, there's been male celebrities have gone to space. So anything like this clapback, which I'm fully aware of as well.

• 27:03Speaker 01

  I wouldn't want to go to space. I would say we need to do less things like that so we don't fuck with the environment. But I would also say, let's not all just keep attacking Katy Perry.

• 27:13Speaker 02

  Well, if we're gonna go to space, we're using someone else's name. I'll be going as Mariah Carey.

• 27:18Speaker 01

  I think I'm too scared. I just, I think I'm too, I don't even like flying. When you say, I, I had to get a, I had to get a really small plane home last night and I was like, that's it, this is the end now, that's it.

• 27:32Speaker 01

  Isn't it elephants who are pregnant forever? 22 months.

• 27:35Speaker 02

  22 months and elephant's pregnant.

• 27:37Speaker 01

  Right.

• 27:37Speaker 02

  Imagine her ankles, God love her, God imagine her ankles.

• 27:42Speaker 02

  All four of them, my God. The Barrack is veins, God love her.

• 27:46Speaker 01

  I don't know if this is the most empowering thing a woman can do, but basically it happened when I was in St Bart's. And I was gone for drinks in these people's house. And these two women came and they arrived together and they had three kids between them. Two kids were one woman's, one kid's was the other woman's. And then I don't know what happened, but I got up to go somewhere with one of the women and. And then I was like, oh, she's this man's wife. And then they were like, no, that is. And I was like, what is going on? So basically, this man was married to one of the women for like ten, twelve years, had two kids, they broke up. Then he married the other woman, had one child,

• 28:29Speaker 01

  and now those two women are best friends.

• 28:33Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 28:34Speaker 01

  Best. And she was Ukrainian, and she said that in Ukraine, that's what they do, like that if somebody had been married before, like they would never just shun them, and they never like disconnect them from the family and everything. And I was like, it was amazing to see, especially for the kids, because the kids were obviously really good friends as well then, even though one was a lot younger. But I'd never in my life seen anything like it.

• 28:56Speaker 02

  That is impressive. I guess that is an example of an amicable breakup, which we're not that used to.

• 29:03Speaker 01

  Consciously uncoupled.

• 29:04Speaker 02

  Yeah. I mean, yes, it has, it does happen. And also, I think some relationships, you're like, oh, it's just ready to end. There's no, there's no bad, there's no ill will. We might as well all stay in contact and stay friends. It's lovely. If you can pull it off, power to them.

• 29:18Speaker 01

  I thought it was the most amazing thing I'd ever heard, because I just don't know if I'd be able to particularly, but I suppose it is the nice way to be.

• 29:25Speaker 02

  Of course. That's the dream.

• 29:28Speaker 01

  Yeah, I think if I was able to have my parents in the same room as he, it would have been.

• 29:32Speaker 02

  Well, the dream is to have him removed entirely and just have the women raising the children together in some sort of commune.

• 29:38Speaker 01

  I kind of feel like that they mainly just stayed out and about and doing their own thing, and he would go off to work, and they were just being best friends, like living their best life.

• 29:46Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's really nice. Do you know what, do you know, well, Bruce, Demi Moore does that with Bruce Willis and his new wife, whose name I can't remember now. They kind of gel their whole family together and did it in a very adult, amicable way, which is also impressive.

• 29:59Speaker 01

  But that could, now, the thing about that is, I could, I'd say that probably took a long, long time for that to happen.

• 30:05Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 30:06Speaker 01

  It is nice to see. Did you see those sisters said that they still have baths together?

• 30:11Speaker 02

  Did the Moore sisters?

• 30:13Speaker 01

  Uh, the Willis sisters.

• 30:16Speaker 02

  Oh, they're well assisted. Do they have baths together? It's very girls by Lena Dunham. I like it.

• 30:21Speaker 01

  I don't think I'd like to, I don't think I'd like to be in anyone's dirty bath and I certainly wouldn't want to be in the bath at Amber. Sorry, absolutely no way.

• 30:30Speaker 02

  I believe, I have to must correct myself. It's not Demi, it's Demi. Like, it's like, no, it's, I, I, I remind, do you know who I remember how to pronounce her name? It's like Sammy.

• 30:38Speaker 01

  Demi, Sammy.

• 30:39Speaker 02

  Is it Demi or Demi? Who cares? Her granddaughters are bathing together. She's got bigger problems.

• 30:45Speaker 02

  Come here. In, in other news.

• 30:48Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 30:48Speaker 02

  I'm after inheriting a pair of pigeons.

• 30:50Speaker 01

  Oh, they shit everywhere. Be careful.

• 30:52Speaker 02

  So there, there was, there is what I thought was a little cat basket on one of my window sills, which my bed looks out onto, right?

• 31:00Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 31:00Speaker 02

  Now, in hindsight, I should have understood that it was actually a bird basket because cats, I'm not familiar with cats.

• 31:05Speaker 01

  A bird nest?

• 31:06Speaker 02

  No, it's a basket. It's not a nest. It's a basket for little birds to kind of hang out in or whatever. But when I came back from America, because obviously I hadn't been here for a couple of weeks, so they'd had the run of the place.

• 31:17Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 31:17Speaker 02

  These two pigeons, who are clearly in a relationship, I'm assuming, who spend a lot of time together, are living in the little catbird basket on the window.

• 31:27Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 31:28Speaker 02

  So they're, but they're, and I was like, oh, this is gorgeous now. This is all very snow white bluebird on her shoulder. I can, I'm, I'm gonna just look out and, but I have to stay really still because when I move around, they kind of fly off a lot. But they're making these weird gurgly, I, I don't know if they're burping out there or they're gurgling. They're making wild noises. So now I'm not too sure about this kind of nature on the window situation, but.

• 31:48Speaker 01

  That's a pigeon noise. They went.

• 31:52Speaker 02

  They're kind of regu, I don't know what they're, they're like.

• 31:54Speaker 01

  That's a pigeon noise.

• 31:56Speaker 02

  It's like, it's like.

• 31:57Speaker 01

  Rats of the sky, they're called.

• 31:59Speaker 02

  They're burping. Chickens of the sky.

• 32:02Speaker 01

  Rats of the sky.

• 32:03Speaker 02

  How dare you? They're chickens. Oh no, sorry. Dog, tunas are chickens of the sea. Sorry, I, I start corrected.

• 32:11Speaker 01

  How dare you? Slagging off my new kids.

• 32:15Speaker 02

  Yes, excuse me.

• 32:18Speaker 02

  But the woman, I'm trying to figure out which one's the woman pigeon because, because as I say, they're clearly in a relationship and I'm a girl's girl. So I'm trying to see if he brings back a different bird. I'm going to try and let the other one know somehow.

• 32:30Speaker 01

  Well, women pigeons have a love heart just under their right eye. If you ever look at them, if you can get close enough.

• 32:36Speaker 02

  Why, have they done time? Why would they?

• 32:38Speaker 01

  No, they just, they're all marked like that. All the women pigeons have like a love heart mark under their right eye.

• 32:43Speaker 02

  Imagine any of this was fact checked. Like, that just is not true. There's just no way. And like, I'm the most gullible person on the planet.

• 32:52Speaker 01

  I thought I'd have you at that.

• 32:54Speaker 02

  You knew it wasn't true.

• 32:56Speaker 01

  Of course. I loved, I loved.

• 33:00Speaker 02

  You're like, all female pigeons have a tramp stamp. What? That's crazy.

• 33:06Speaker 01

  I love the way that you're letting pigeons nest on your, on your thing. On my roof in Ireland, I have these jets. This is like they're, they're hooked up to a hose and anytime a seagull comes near, it sprays water so they don't shit in the roof.

• 33:24Speaker 02

  Why do you hate nature, Vogue? That's gonna be the next headline now.

• 33:27Speaker 01

  Let's see, let's see what you do when your window turns white from all the shit they shit everywhere.

• 33:31Speaker 02

  Vogue Williams shoots down natural wildlife from mansion and house.

• 33:37Speaker 01

  Joanne threw a load of bats out of her apartment. You're not allowed to touch bats.

• 33:44Speaker 02

  I'm gonna leave a load of the contraceptive pill on the window in the hope that the female birds eat it because that man's fucking around. I'm pretty sure that male pigeon's fucking around. I'm like, girls, have your fun in that cat basket, but just know, he's a huge red flag. If I see any blue tits or robins in that thing, I'll be documenting the whole thing. And let the girls know.

• 34:02Speaker 01

  I wonder if they'll have any babies on your balcony. That'd be quite cute, wouldn't it?

• 34:05Speaker 02

  I'd love that.

• 34:07Speaker 01

  Yeah, that'd keep you up all night long.

• 34:10Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'll adopt one. But that's a sur, free surrogacy. Just raise a bird.

• 34:16Speaker 01

  Well, I'm thrilled for you, but you know what I'm gonna get you as a present? When you eventually give me my Christmas present, because I'm not giving you any presents until I get that. It's now April, it's nearly May.

• 34:24Speaker 02

  No, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a fair boundary.

• 34:27Speaker 01

  There's a bird feeder that you get, right? And on top of it is a camera, so it like takes videos of all the birds and it's hooked up to your phone.

• 34:34Speaker 02

  Amazing. I saw a woman wear a hat and just right in front of her, she had a big rim on the hat and she put bird seed in it. So the birds would literally be sitting on her head, which was a little much now. I didn't, I wasn't, I wasn't agreeing with that.

• 34:45Speaker 01

  So there's a man that sits across from the Albert Bridge in Chelsea and he sits on this, uh, just a seating area outside. And like, he literally has hundreds of pigeons all over him and he does have shit and stuff on his jacket because he just lets them all climb on him.

• 34:57Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 34:57Speaker 01

  Pigeon man.

• 34:58Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 35:00Speaker 01

  So you could be pigeon woman, do you want to just be sitting there in a raincoat?

• 35:04Speaker 02

  I'd love it.

• 35:07Speaker 02

  I can't, I don't have time to get a dog. I could keep pigeons in the air fryer.

• 35:12Speaker 01

  I was asking somebody.

• 35:13Speaker 02

  They could nest in there. I don't use it.

• 35:16Speaker 01

  I was asking somebody, I say, what's the worst thing you've made in an air fryer? And he's like, oh, I don't know. I was like, my friend tried to put an egg in there.

• 35:22Speaker 02

  I did, yeah. I don't know what that was about. What was that about?

• 35:27Speaker 01

  That's the ultimate laziness, choking an egg in the egg fire.

• 35:30Speaker 02

  Yeah. So four days later, hoping it'll be, it'll be hard boiled.

• 35:36Speaker 02

  I was there, because I'm a bit jet lagged at the moment, so I, I can't sleep. But yeah, no, I'm kind of, I'm doing what I need. I'm doing, it'll take me a couple of years to get my circadian rhythm back in check, but this is how I roll, so.

• 35:47Speaker 01

  How many hours behind?

• 35:50Speaker 02

  Five hours. New York's, New York's five hours behind.

• 35:52Speaker 01

  I'm, I am so jet lagged and Boris is five hours behind. I cannot sleep.

• 35:56Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's a, it's a, it's a pain, but look, it's a, it's a pain, but it's a privilege. It's a privilege to travel. Um, but because of my circadian rhythm, whatever the fuck that is, I'm up all night, no more than yourself. So I'm obviously bat into the TikTok. And there's a video, there, there's a TikTok going around where a girl is saying that her boyfriend kicked her out, so she's, she's like, she's on the way out. But all the comments underneath, there's thousands and thousands of comments, which obviously I've screen grabbed all of them, just in case I need to take revenge at some point in my adult life, which I'm hoping will happen. I mean, I'm hoping I'm not done with her heartbreaking pain.

• 36:35Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 36:36Speaker 02

  But some of the comments are so funny. Some of the advice telling her what to do to his apartment, kind of reading to him.

• 36:40Speaker 01

  Oh my God, yes, I'd love that. Also, by the way, when I say I'm, I'm jet lagged and I'm not getting much sleep, I, I obviously I got eight hours last night, but that's not great for me, you know?

• 36:49Speaker 02

  What?

• 36:51Speaker 01

  I couldn't fall asleep till 12 is what I mean.

• 36:54Speaker 02

  I need to find my whoop, get back on track.

• 36:55Speaker 01

  The next day for me.

• 36:57Speaker 02

  Olivia, my trainer's been off, which means I've also been off. So I literally haven't lifted a weight, I haven't broken a sweat, I haven't done anything in three weeks.

• 37:08Speaker 01

  And you're on, you're on tour, what do you need to, you promised when you went on tour, you were gonna, when's your next tour date?

• 37:14Speaker 02

  I've all my, I had a bit of definition, it's all gone, isn't it crazy? I basically have just wasted away, it's gas. My favourite bit of advice.

• 37:23Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 37:24Speaker 02

  So there's 23,873 comments underneath this video.

• 37:29Speaker 01

  God, girls, come on.

• 37:31Speaker 02

  The one that appears, the one that appears the most is to spray milk all over his apartment. Now, I didn't realise, that's a really smart thing because that'll slowly go off, but he won't see it. So the whole place will just reek because there's nothing worse than going off milk.

• 37:45Speaker 01

  That is sadistic. The milk is, don't do, oh, please God, you, you have, you'd have to move out, you'd have to repaint the place, get rid of all your curtains.

• 37:54Speaker 02

  Exactly. This is my favourite. Take the microwave spinny plate thing.

• 38:01Speaker 01

  That'd be so annoying as well, to be fair. You could do a lot of like the oven trays and stuff, like things like that, or take, take the, the, you know, where you put the milk in the fridge, take that thing away, they're really expensive.

• 38:12Speaker 02

  I love that. The microwave spinny plate. Kick me out, you can lose, your, your lasagna's not getting cooked through, you little prick.

• 38:22Speaker 01

  The milk is the worst, that's so mean.

• 38:24Speaker 02

  Glitter on the ceiling fans. Now, I love this, because you know the way when you get annoyed, they get cheated on, they just punch you all. Listen to how strategic this shit is. Glitter on the ceiling fans. Can you imagine the fallout from that? He'd be months with the Dyson to get rid of it.

• 38:38Speaker 01

  He'd never get rid of it.

• 38:39Speaker 02

  Someone's like, Robert Cooper's around the toilet, I'm like, in this comment section, that is amateur.

• 38:44Speaker 01

  Weak, weak.

• 38:45Speaker 02

  Amateur, amateur input.

• 38:47Speaker 01

  But also, you could do that as well. That could just be an additional extra.

• 38:51Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 38:52Speaker 01

  This is actually quite, these are quite abusive, I have to say. Like, that is like, really, really bad.

• 38:58Speaker 02

  You're right. This is saying more about me than them, really, isn't it? Here's one. This is a funny one. When I was a kid, my mom peed in my dad's cologne when we left. And I thought, yeah, that's something I would do.

• 39:08Speaker 01

  Veit in the shampoo?

• 39:10Speaker 02

  That's too much for me now. I don't want him to lose his hair. But I'd happily, I'd happily piss in his links Africa, is what I'm saying.

• 39:24Speaker 01

  Oh my god, 11/11, make a wish, quick.

• 39:26Speaker 02

  I missed it. I was thinking.

• 39:27Speaker 01

  No, do it. It's still 11/11.

• 39:29Speaker 02

  Oh!

• 39:30Speaker 00

  It won't be 11/11 forever.

• 39:32Speaker 01

  She doesn't believe in the universe until she thinks she can get something from it.

• 39:35Speaker 00

  Missed it.

• 39:36Speaker 01

  No, you don't. You don't tell us. It's like your birthday wish.

• 39:42Speaker 02

  There's a red thread about people who've been blocked by celebrities and the reasons why. And this one. Seven or eight years ago, I used to follow Busy Philipps on Instagram because I thought she was cute and funny. However, every day she would post intense, close-up videos of herself working out, like on all fours, pouring sweat, staring into your cell. No talking, just three or more stories of grunting and sweat. I didn't understand it. Now, looking back, she was clearly getting paid by whatever workout studio she was filming from, but I didn't get that at the time. One day, she posted a survey basically asking if she should stop posting these weird videos. I voted yes, and she blocked me immediately. What a strange woman. Listen, if you can't handle the feedback, don't ask the question.

• 40:24Speaker 01

  That's a bit much now. Like, I do, I do block occasionally, but I wouldn't be blocking for something like that.

• 40:29Speaker 02

  Here's another one. Mario Lopez accidentally followed me, maybe a decade ago on Twitter. I sent him a DM two weeks later saying, thanks for the follow, and was immediately blocked.

• 40:41Speaker 01

  Never say a word if a celeb follows you. Don't say anything.

• 40:46Speaker 02

  Obama follows me for some reason. No one knows why and I've never acknowledged it. Cause I'm like, everyone's still, hold still, hold still, hold still, hold still.

• 40:59Speaker 02

  Let's not acknowledge, leave it as it is, stay silent.

• 41:02Speaker 01

  Nicki Minaj and Cardi B had a big scrap and then they had a social media back and forth and then blocked each other.

• 41:09Speaker 02

  Okay, yeah, I, yeah, I remember that.

• 41:11Speaker 01

  Bella Hadid and Selena Gomez, there's always a bit of drama going on amongst them, isn't there?

• 41:16Speaker 02

  Yeah, totally.

• 41:17Speaker 01

  Blocked, this is a funny one. Matt Damon blocked Benedict Cumberbatch.

• 41:23Speaker 01

  After, after Cumberbatch joked about Matt Damon's acting style. So he went on. He was obviously really pissed off by it and blocked him.

• 41:32Speaker 02

  People are very sensitive, aren't they?

• 41:35Speaker 01

  I, I mean, very sensitive. I'd love to know who's blocked me. I'd say I've been blocked by a lot of people.

• 41:40Speaker 02

  I've been blocked, I'm blocked by Pierce Morgan.

• 41:43Speaker 01

  Really? Why? What did you say?

• 41:48Speaker 02

  I don't, I don't like, I don't like what he's about. I don't like the whole kind of, he's so antagonistic. He intentionally encourages pile on from people. I don't like it. And I basically, yeah, kind of tweeted him something.

• 41:59Speaker 01

  Oh, Twitter, yeah. Everyone blocks you on Twitter though. I don't even know how to get on to my Twitter.

• 42:08Speaker 02

  Coachella was on, I don't know. Oh, apparently, well, obviously we've never been to Coachella nor did we want to go. The influencer.

• 42:16Speaker 01

  So who said we didn't want to go? Who said we didn't?

• 42:18Speaker 02

  Would you go?

• 42:19Speaker 01

  I just couldn't really be arsed. I'm like, it looks so.

• 42:24Speaker 02

  So, so you're, yeah, that's, I guess that was our vibe.

• 42:28Speaker 01

  My insides feel like they want to go, but like my outsides know that I just couldn't be arsed. Like, and I'm like, and I just, again, it's like, I just, I'd hate to feel so shit about myself down there. Because when you see all the influencers and I'm like, how do you, like, I'd be absolutely deranged in the free bar. Is there a free bar? I'm just going to assume there is because tickets are so expensive. I just feel like.

• 42:52Speaker 02

  There's no free bar. Apparently 60% of people go and took out a loan to go. They're on a paving plan.

• 42:58Speaker 01

  It's so, that's why I assumed it was free booze. It's, it's so expensive.

• 43:03Speaker 02

  So expensive. Apparently Lady Gaga's performance was her, her magnum opus, which is like her fucking, her peak performance, basically. Apparently it was insane. Yeah, I know. And apparently her new album is insane. And you know me, I'm not a museo, but I'm gonna get involved.

• 43:21Speaker 01

  I also really wanna go and see her. She's playing in London soon, but I, I heard people, I heard people were annoyed by her performance, but maybe I got that wrong.

• 43:28Speaker 02

  Oh, really?

• 43:29Speaker 01

  Yeah. Coachella's on again this weekend, by the way. So they do, it's two separate weekends. I saw Kylie Jenner and Timothée Chalamet went to, everyone was like, oh my God, how dare she go down when Travis is performing that day? How dare she go down with her new fella? And then she was literally standing, watching him perform. It's like, I think it's okay.

• 43:47Speaker 02

  Maybe that, yeah, this kind of, this idea that people stay friends with their exes, it's something I really would like to experience personally. I have yet to understand that.

• 43:57Speaker 01

  As much as I would like to experience it personally.

• 44:00Speaker 02

  Yeah. Yeah.

• 44:02Speaker 01

  Do you know what? I have to go. I'm gonna go call a couple of my exes, if you don't mind. I'm gonna, I'm gonna.

• 44:06Speaker 02

  Oh, no, no, no, no. I don't mean from the past. I mean, in the future. So it's something I would like to try in the future.

• 44:13Speaker 01

  We won't have that growth till the next life, I wouldn't think.

• 44:16Speaker 02

  Like, okay, yeah, how about we don't go nuclear on this? How about everyone stay calm? And even if it was a Happy Christmas text, even that was a situation. I have nothing.

• 44:28Speaker 01

  No, no. I just think we are who we are and that's who we'll always be. And we can admire from afar those who are able to go and watch their exes play in concert at Coachella like Kylie Jenner.

• 44:38Speaker 02

  Perfect.

• 44:45Speaker 02

  That's it for this week. Thanks for listening. Please like and subscribe if that's your thing. I've been Joanne McNally, she's been Bob Williams, he's been Joe Attiwell. This has been My Therapist, goes to me. We'll see you soon.

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