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James talks about performances he wishes he'd done better years later, someone sends in Joe a potential zoo-related business idea and the boys discuss the charm of Louis Theroux PLUS it's round 2 of the World 'Up! GET IN TOUCH: Whatsapp us - wa.me/447822034330 http://wa.me/447822034330 Fill in our Fact Up Form - https://forms.gle/uzF6XWPqaA5aNTtN7 Subscribe on Youtube - www.youtube.com/@JoeandJamesPod/videos http://www.youtube.com/@JoeandJamesPod/videos Follow us on Instagram - www.instagram.com/joeandjamespod http://www.instagram.com/joeandjamespod Follow us on TikTok - www.tiktok.com/@joeandjamespod http://www.tiktok.com/@joeandjamespod Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy https://acast.com/privacy for more information.

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  Hello, this is Suzy Ruffel.

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  And Maisy Adam.

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  And together we host Big Kick Energy. Hey Mais, what is it?

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  Only the best podcast ever.

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  Yes.

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  A comedy entertainment podcast with a focus on all things women's football, all things hilarious, all things friendship. It's a laugh is what it is, Ruffel.

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  Yeah, and a fair bit of gossiping too.

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  Oh, and a lovely bit of gossip. Chow down on the gossip.

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  Grab a knife and fork and tuck in, baby.

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  I relive stuff in my head constantly. I am constantly, if I'm in a car and I'm in traffic and I'm on my own, reciting lines from The Inbetweeners out loud that I wished I'd have done better. And I'm going back 20 years and I'm like, fucking, why didn't I just do that? Why didn't I do it that way? I did a play called 222. I did it the first time round. And there was this line that I just, I just couldn't get it right. And I didn't understand it. And then I finished my run and I kept thinking about that line.

• 1:14Speaker 02

  And I spent a whole year going over it until I went, fuck, that's how I should have done it. That's it. That's exactly it. And then they asked me if I'd do it again.

• 1:28Speaker 03

  Yeah, alright.

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  Come and do another run of it. And I went, yeah, I'll do it. I'll do it again. Because I've spent a whole year working out how to do this one line that I kept thinking that I wasn't getting across correctly. Like, I just, I don't, man, I don't.

• 1:44Speaker 03

  Well, sometimes it's worth, I mean, I'm sure that you kind of benefited from all that thinking. So you must have.

• 1:54Speaker 02

  So that, yeah. So that thing that took me over a year to work out in my brain, people like Roger Federer, they do it in half a second.

• 2:03Speaker 03

  Yeah.

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  They're just so clinical and they're just like, right, that was what went wrong. I need to do that. I need to do this. And they're ready to carry on playing.

• 2:10Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:11Speaker 02

  And I assume that's the same with business, business people and entrepreneurs and stuff like that. Because, you know, all those successful people have got an incredible story. All those Steve Jobs people and stuff like that, they've had to, they don't just.

• 2:26Speaker 02

  Be make Apple and or or or you know, they don't just make Microsoft. There's a whole thing that I had to go through and setbacks and overcome and and they've all got this thing in them where they can, they can just overcome it. Like the in between is, I got that job when I was nineteen.

• 2:44Speaker 03

  Hmm.

• 2:45Speaker 02

  I don't particularly feel like I tried really hard to get that job. I just auditioned. I just sort of did it. If it was, I don't know, if if I'd had more adversity in my life, I think I would have. Even the little adversity I've got in my life right now, I still fucking crumble, become a mess.

• 3:00Speaker 03

  I'm always amazed when people deal with adversity like very young. I think that, I mean, I think I'm probably better at dealing with adversity now, but I feel like it's because I've had, I don't know, three decades worth of various sorts of adversity. I don't know. So it's almost like I've had one of every different sort of adversity. So now when something comes along, I'm like, oh, yeah, I recognize you. You're you're this sort of adversity.

• 3:33Speaker 02

  Yeah.

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  But I can't really imagine each one of those types of adversity when I've encountered it for the first time. I've been like, well, this is a disaster. There's nothing I can do. I can't possibly carry on like it. I mean,

• 3:46Speaker 03

  yeah, I think that's, yeah, it's weird. I do. I think it has to do with with fear is.

• 3:54Speaker 03

  Um, when I was at school, I was really um fearful of like the future and like genetic engineering and robots and stuff.

• 4:02Speaker 02

  Right.

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  So my tactic was I'll just drop all science. I just won't learn any science.

• 4:07Speaker 02

  You've carried it on as well, haven't you? Because you're terrified of A I.

• 4:11Speaker 03

  I was right. I was right.

• 4:12Speaker 02

  I don't know much about A I, but I know that he uses a lot of water. Is that right?

• 4:16Speaker 04

  Yeah, I think the like the machinery that they use for it, like big data centers, basically require a lot of cooling.

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  Yeah.

• 4:24Speaker 04

  Um, but I think it's because they they say that that should reduce with time as the technology develops. But at the moment, there's big data centers that basically require a lot of cooling, which requires a lot of water.

• 4:35Speaker 02

  There's a lot of specifically fresh water, right? They can't.

• 4:38Speaker 04

  I'm not hundred percent sure about that. I'm not going.

• 4:39Speaker 03

  Can't you salt water?

• 4:40Speaker 02

  I don't think, I assume they can't because it will clog up the.

• 4:44Speaker 03

  But I mean, I but.

• 4:45Speaker 02

  Pipes.

• 4:47Speaker 03

  But yeah, clock out its pipes, clock out the tubes.

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  This is coming from.

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  We'll clock out the dildo tubes and then the the robot uh will go, ah, I don't know what's going on. I'm sort of torn now. I wouldn't say I'm, but I definitely.

• 5:02Speaker 02

  I can let you do that, Dave.

• 5:04Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah.

• 5:06Speaker 02

  That's a boring film, by the way.

• 5:07Speaker 03

  What is it? Is it one with a car?

• 5:09Speaker 02

  No, that's Kit.

• 5:11Speaker 03

  All right, or was it Hal?

• 5:12Speaker 02

  No, Hal, sorry, yeah.

• 5:13Speaker 03

  Oh, twenty twenty one.

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  Dave is Kit.

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  What's funny about, I feel like with AI, we we'd done all the philosophy about it before we had the stuff. And now we've got the stuff and we're like, yeah, the philosophies are sort of basically right.

• 5:23Speaker 02

  We'll always do that, won't we?

• 5:25Speaker 03

  Yeah.

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  We'll always do that.

• 5:26Speaker 03

  In the nineties, there was lots of people worrying about technology, even though technology couldn't actually do anything.

• 5:30Speaker 02

  Like war, wars still happen, even though we know they're all terrible.

• 5:34Speaker 03

  Yeah.

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  Even though nobody really wants to go to war.

• 5:37Speaker 03

  No, but I I mean, I mean more like, like Asimov had come up with this idea of like the ethics of robotics in like the nineteen fifties, even though there weren't any, there weren't really any robots, but he was like, yeah, but when we do have them, we'll need some rules. So obviously the first rule would be a robot can't harm a human, right? Right? And you're like, yeah, I suppose that is, that is basically correct. Yeah. He's like, yeah, but there's probably needs to be a rule before that because you might need to have a rule where like a robot could harm one human to save a hundred. And you're like, yeah, I suppose that, yeah, that's probably true. I mean, how, where are you getting this from? But like, it, there is, there is a sort of, there is a sense that like, it's as though we've, we've been ready for it for so long.

• 6:13Speaker 02

  Yeah, but we're all, but we're ready for everything, anything, any bloody disaster.

• 6:18Speaker 03

  We're ready for anything. Yeah, no, yeah.

• 6:20Speaker 02

  I mean, we're aware.

• 6:21Speaker 03

  Oh, sure, yeah.

• 6:22Speaker 02

  Not ready, but we're aware of any disaster that could possibly happen.

• 6:25Speaker 03

  That's true, actually.

• 6:25Speaker 02

  You know, when you, when you think about the Middle Ages and like fucking hundred years war and, and then uh and and all those battles that were going on in all around Europe and all this nonsense.

• 6:36Speaker 03

  Yeah.

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  Like, we all look, we we read about that stuff and we look back and go, God, fucking primitives, what a bunch of idiots. Still doing the same.

• 6:44Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 6:44Speaker 02

  Still do the same stuff.

• 6:45Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 6:45Speaker 02

  And it's for all the exact same reasons.

• 6:48Speaker 03

  I know. Yeah.

• 6:50Speaker 02

  Like, we just don't learn, do we?

• 6:52Speaker 03

  We don't really learn. No, it is true.

• 6:54Speaker 02

  Um. Which is why we wanted to do this podcast.

• 6:57Speaker 03

  We're trying to finally teach people.

• 6:58Speaker 02

  We wanted to teach people.

• 6:59Speaker 03

  Just trying to teach and like, and then eventually we're gonna set up a little community and you'll come and live with us and you give us money.

• 7:06Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 7:07Speaker 03

  And like, we'll take most of it.

• 7:09Speaker 02

  And then we'll poison each other.

• 7:11Speaker 03

  Yeah, well, no, no. And head off to the spaceship. Enemies will say we're poisoning each other, but actually we're just getting rid of these earthly bodies. So that the bit of us that lives forever can go and live on our planet.

• 7:20Speaker 02

  Yeah.

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  That we've found out about and that I've done a drawing of.

• 7:25Speaker 02

  We'll all have a little pet philanthropor.

• 7:27Speaker 03

  We'll have a little philanthropor for me. They're there waiting for us. They miss us. They miss us like crazy.

• 7:34Speaker 03

  And they're sending out, they're sending out their signals. They're reaching out.

• 7:40Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 7:40Speaker 03

  Through space.

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  Have you seen that?

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  If we can only listen, listen.

• 7:44Speaker 02

  Do you remember, um, early Louis Theroux, where he used to do weird weekends? And he did that one on the aliens.

• 7:50Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 7:51Speaker 02

  And he went to that bloke and he was like.

• 7:54Speaker 02

  Now, receiving message.

• 7:57Speaker 03

  I do remember that.

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  Stand by for message.

• 8:02Speaker 03

  Oh, I know.

• 8:03Speaker 02

  You are killing the planet.

• 8:07Speaker 03

  Oh, I love all that.

• 8:08Speaker 02

  I want him to go back to that shit.

• 8:09Speaker 03

  I know.

• 8:10Speaker 02

  He's.

• 8:11Speaker 03

  It's too fucking easy to find weirdos now is the problem. You're like, oh, I found one. We're just here on the, running the country. Just, yeah, it's, yeah. Um, no, yeah.

• 8:20Speaker 02

  He's become, um, he's, he's still got his thing, Louis Theroux, but he's talking to people, um, he's talking to too many people that are aware of.

• 8:28Speaker 03

  Yeah.

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  Him. Whereas, um, he needs to go back to do his, do his stuff where he's just.

• 8:33Speaker 03

  I know.

• 8:34Speaker 02

  Looking at the camera going.

• 8:38Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 8:39Speaker 02

  You know, he didn't even need to say stuff.

• 8:41Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 8:42Speaker 02

  He would just let them do things.

• 8:44Speaker 03

  Um, so, yeah, he'd just be like, and do you think there's any reason that the alien has chosen to just talk to you?

• 8:52Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 8:53Speaker 03

  It was really good. I am.

• 8:55Speaker 02

  But he was so.

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  Yeah.

• 8:57Speaker 02

  He's got, he's got such a special charm.

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  He's got such a charm.

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  Cause he would, he could be like, gee, is there not a chance, do you think that you're just making this up?

• 9:06Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 9:07Speaker 02

  That this is all bollocks?

• 9:09Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's, yeah.

• 9:10Speaker 02

  Even, he even made an incredibly compelling documentary about Michael Jackson without getting anywhere near Michael Jackson. He was trying really, really hard to, um, he was fascinated with Michael Jackson and he followed him around on tour and he spoke to a load of fans, Michael Jackson, like super fans.

• 9:30Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 9:30Speaker 02

  Spoke to his dad at some point, spoke to some guy who was a magician that sort of was an orphan or something and was brought up by the Jack, or claimed to have been brought up by the Jackson family. It was all really weird and really, really fascinating, really, really interesting, but he could not. And he's, and he, and he spent the whole time trying to get in a room with Michael Jackson. And then it was, then it was like, oh, we've just got news. Um, oh, he speaks to Yuri Geller.

• 9:56Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 9:57Speaker 02

  And he's like, um, do you reckon you could get me in with Michael Jackson? And Yuri goes, possibly, we may be able to get you in, like, win England, win. Yuri Geller, what's he doing now? Where the fuck's Yuri Geller? Um.

• 10:09Speaker 03

  What's Yuri Geller's job?

• 10:10Speaker 02

  He bends spoons.

• 10:12Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 10:13Speaker 02

  He bends your mind.

• 10:17Speaker 02

  Watch, uh, watch as I bend this spoon. Um, but, uh, and then Yuri Geller goes, and then he, and then the news breaks that Jacko's decided to go with Bashir.

• 10:31Speaker 02

  That he's good. Do you remember the big Michael, uh, Martin Bashir thing with Michael Jackson? That was fucking amazing, absolutely incredible.

• 10:37Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 10:38Speaker 02

  I'd love to re-watch that. Can't find it. Can't find it anywhere. Um, and, uh, and then Louis Theroux confronts Yuri Geller, saying, what happened? I thought, I thought you were gonna get me the big scoop. And I hear now that Martin Bashir is spending the next few weeks with Michael Jackson and doing an in-depth documentary. And like, Yuri Geller's like, well, you, you can be a bit sneaky. We were worried, we were worried. Um, but Uri Geller had sorted out.

• 11:10Speaker 03

  Quite a, quite a fair description to be fair. He is a little bit sneaky.

• 11:15Speaker 02

  But Uri Geller was the person that brokered the deal between, or had something to do with the deal between him and Bashir. And obviously that documentary, everyone watched that was like, what the fuck? What is going on here? That was where the whole thing came out. It was like, oh, I just sleep with the children. There's nothing weird. No, you're being ignorant. No, we just sleep in the same bed. We're all right. There's nothing going on. And Bashir's like, right, okay.

• 11:40Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 11:40Speaker 02

  So that was bad PR for Jacko.

• 11:42Speaker 03

  Yeah, probably. Michael Jackson shouldn't really have done an interview with anyone.

• 11:46Speaker 02

  And, uh, and I think Uri Geller was like, yes, Michael Jackson isn't talking to me at the moment. Like he was like, because, because he was the, he was the sort of.

• 11:55Speaker 03

  It's very difficult to sell the idea that you just have got a best friend who's a child.

• 12:00Speaker 02

  In Uri Geller's.

• 12:00Speaker 03

  People are like, ah, just, what is it? Say again? I've just, my best friend is just a child.

• 12:05Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 12:07Speaker 03

  Say it again. My best friend's a child. Oh, just, I can't, it's just something.

• 12:12Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 12:12Speaker 03

  I don't think your best friend can be a child.

• 12:14Speaker 02

  In Uri Geller's defence, right, he probably went with, um, oh, Bashir, he did the Diana stuff and he's a bit more, he's a bit more of a sort of, uh, he's a bit more of a respected journalist than Louis Theroux, right? Who was a student with a camera, basically.

• 12:32Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 12:33Speaker 02

  So Uri Geller's gone, I think you should go with Martin Bashir.

• 12:35Speaker 03

  Hmm.

• 12:36Speaker 02

  Uri Geller, for Michael Jackson to then fall out with Uri Geller and was like, oh, you stitched me up. I would have gone, I think you stitched yourself up, mate.

• 12:45Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 12:45Speaker 02

  I don't think, I don't think Bashir stitched you up there.

• 12:49Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's not, yeah, it's very difficult to think of who Michael Jackson could have been paired with that wouldn't have had the same outcome.

• 12:56Speaker 02

  Exactly.

• 12:57Speaker 03

  Uh, who's this person you're supposed to interview and being like, oh, I love all this, all this stuff with the kids. It's great. Yeah. Well done.

• 13:03Speaker 02

  There's a fascinating bit where, um, Louis Theroux, I think he gives hands over like $5,000 of his own money or something like that to try and get an hour with, is it Randy Jackson? Uh, who's his dad? Is that his dad's name?

• 13:21Speaker 02

  And um, and it's like, oh, he was supposed to be, he turns up like six hours late or something like that. And they're, and they're like, oh, we've only got twenty minutes. And, and then it, it becomes very clear that um, this guy's just trying to talk to Louis through about this girl band that he's trying to put together. Joseph, of course, yeah, Joseph, um, Joe, um. Those documentaries are amazing, the Louis through weird weekend stuff.

• 13:49Speaker 02

  Before we um, yeah, like even the stuff with um, who was that couple?

• 13:53Speaker 03

  That sense of you were getting a camera in a place where there'd never been a camera before.

• 14:02Speaker 02

  Um, I remember a few weeks ago that I was asking you about um, the, as, as people that are genuinely interested in British comedy, uh, the SNL UK thing.

• 14:14Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 14:15Speaker 02

  Um, and I've not, I've not watched uh, an episode because I've, I've felt like I haven't had to. Because it really does live on the internet. It really does get clipped up and lived on the internet. I'll be honest with you, it's been, I think it's been great.

• 14:32Speaker 04

  I've, I've watched all of it and I loved it.

• 14:34Speaker 02

  I think it's been great seeing that stuff. And I think it works on the internet and it's sort of, it's almost as if the show, the actual show is a byproduct. What they want is it for, for, for the stuff to go uh, viral on TikTok and Instagram. And it is, and it's going real. And uh, it does, I man, I, I genuinely sort of just love seeing young people, and they are young, I, I, I am, I am on the other side now.

• 15:03Speaker 03

  They're probably on TikTok.

• 15:05Speaker 02

  Of course they are. They know exactly what they're doing.

• 15:07Speaker 03

  They know what it is.

• 15:07Speaker 02

  Um, but given a chance to do stuff and to, and I, I honestly, it really, a lot of the stuff that I've seen, it reminds me of Pete and Duds. And really bizarre, quite bougie, quite off the wall, quite um, and the, and the, the, you know. I'll call them kids because they are to me, they are to us, you know, not age wise, but.

• 15:32Speaker 03

  Yeah, but in terms of like, they're probably twenty years younger than us or something.

• 15:36Speaker 02

  Well, also, well, one age wise, but also, also just because we, we started out quite young and we're, we're, we're, we're at the other end now.

• 15:45Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 15:45Speaker 02

  I genuinely think we could get a lifetime achievement award or something at the age of forty or something like that because we, because we've been through it. We've come out the other end.

• 15:55Speaker 03

  I think I've probably pretty much, you know, finished.

• 15:59Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Um, but I love, I, I do, I, it, it just, it, it, that SNL, uh, UK thing has made me feel really positive about young people coming into comedy and given a chance and given a chance to, you know, listen, not all the sketches work. Um, but given a chance to fail. Kids don't get that.

• 16:22Speaker 03

  Yeah, that's very true.

• 16:23Speaker 02

  Kids don't get the kids, in whatever, um, whatever walk of life you're in, the kids don't get a chance to fuck up.

• 16:30Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 16:31Speaker 02

  Even if you're just, even if you're doing something and you get a bit pissed on a night out, someone's recording it on the phone and your boss goes, oh, I saw this on the internet, you're fired.

• 16:38Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah.

• 16:40Speaker 02

  Uh, you've got to make mistakes, you've got to be allowed to make mistakes.

• 16:44Speaker 03

  You know the phrase, practice makes perfect. I've never hear that anymore. I never, because I think, because I think, I think it is literally because practice basically means failure.

• 16:53Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 16:54Speaker 03

  Like if you hear a child practicing the piano, what you're really listening to is a child failing to play the piano. So practice really means failure. And if you have a culture that is impatient with failure, which I do think is the culture we have.

• 17:09Speaker 03

  Then it becomes very difficult to practice because practice is failure. So it becomes difficult to improve. So if you, like, if you want a culture of improvement, you need a culture that's embraces failure.

• 17:20Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 17:20Speaker 03

  So, and I think, yeah, I agree with you. It's really good to have like a big canvas on which, it's like, because SNL has obviously been in the States for ages.

• 17:30Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 17:30Speaker 03

  And so many people have come through that. And I know, I've watched films without even realising that these are basically SNL people who have cut their teeth doing this and.

• 17:39Speaker 02

  Loads of them. Will Ferrell, Will Ferrell, um, Eddie Murphy, uh, Bill Murray, um, Dan Aykroyd.

• 17:46Speaker 03

  What you need is a regular slot. You need regularity, a place where you can practice your craft, basically.

• 17:52Speaker 02

  Will Tease, is that his name?

• 17:55Speaker 03

  Yeah, I don't know.

• 17:57Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah. I hope that this, I hope that SNL UK becomes a, becomes a sort of platform for these performers to be able to do, do something similar. I mean, the stuff is like, what kind of Irish is your granddad?

• 18:10Speaker 04

  George Four Acres is so funny.

• 18:12Speaker 02

  Fucking mental. My, my granddad was Irish and it is like, but it's such a bizarre observation that even I had never thought about.

• 18:23Speaker 02

  It's, it's fucking, it is. I, I'd love it. I think it's great. And, uh,

• 18:29Speaker 02

  yeah, I hope, I hope we're back to just sort of fucking having fun again. It's got a second series. Um, because I, I, I honestly, I was like, I don't think it's gonna work. I don't think, uh, we do things so differently over here than they do over there. Because they do it fucking all year, or nine months out of the year, or whatever it is. Yeah. And, um, I, I think they have a mid-season break or a couple of mid, mid-season breaks in, uh, uh, SNL in New York. But we don't do TV like that. We have a, we have a, we have a, a couple of people write stuff.

• 19:03Speaker 03

  Hmm.

• 19:03Speaker 02

  We don't have a fucking boardroom full of 20 people that need to churn out 25 episodes of something every year.

• 19:09Speaker 03

  Yeah, like the idea of like the writers' room, it's very American.

• 19:11Speaker 02

  That, that's not, that's not how we do things here.

• 19:14Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 19:14Speaker 02

  So I was genuinely interested in, in, in being like, how the fuck does, does that concept work? And they did, they did it. They, they sort of met in the middle where it was like, oh, we'll do six episodes. We'll do six episodes. It's live. It's on television. We'll do six episodes. We'll have a guest come in. We'll have music come in. It'd be brilliant. It would, you know, it'd be great fun. They did the six episodes. Right, great. Let's go again. Let's do another six episodes. That works. And I think, I think that will work better. And could potentially put SNL UK in better stead than the SNL in America. Because I'll be honest with you, man, 90, 80, 90% of the American SNL is.

• 19:58Speaker 02

  It is what it is. You got the 10, 20% of special stuff. And I'll be honest, I think getting through the 80% of the stuff is worth getting to the special stuff. But I think this way that they're doing it in the UK gives you a bit more time to let things breathe. Right, we did six episodes, they'll probably do 12 episodes a year if they keep, you know. Every six months they'll do.

• 20:26Speaker 03

  You're thinking that maybe they're almost slightly doing too much in America, maybe.

• 20:30Speaker 02

  Yeah, way too much.

• 20:31Speaker 03

  It's very difficult to keep up that level of.

• 20:33Speaker 02

  Since the 70s.

• 20:34Speaker 03

  That level of output.

• 20:35Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's impossible. No one could do it. No one could do that.

• 20:38Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 20:39Speaker 02

  It's a miracle that, you know, that anything funny comes from the SNL in America.

• 20:45Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 20:45Speaker 02

  If something funny comes from SNL America at this day and age, that they haven't already done is fucking. Well done. Good job. It's like podcasts, Joe.

• 20:57Speaker 03

  Well, you need to just resign.

• 20:59Speaker 02

  Do six podcasts and then go away and think about it for a bit. And what episode are we on? 37?

• 21:06Speaker 03

  With podcasts, you need to just, you know, get comfortable with the fact that there's not really, you know, you're gonna, you are gonna do the same stories. Like, and if people have a go at that, like, they're really being a bit rude.

• 21:21Speaker 03

  Anyway.

• 21:22Speaker 02

  Anyway, episode 37, Joe and James Fact Up. Should we do it?

• 21:27Speaker 03

  Let's do it.

• 21:28Speaker 02

  Do the podcast?

• 21:28Speaker 03

  Let's do it.

• 21:34Speaker 02

  Welcome to Joe and James Fact Up. Each week we'll be bringing facts to one another that we deem interesting and our policy is the more interesting, the more true it is. We'll also dig into the weird things that you'd like to think are true, but you don't want to research yourself in a segment that we call Fact Check. Are we doing that at the moment?

• 21:49Speaker 04

  No, but keep sending them in.

• 21:51Speaker 02

  Keep sending them in. We need them. Um.

• 21:54Speaker 03

  We'll get through them.

• 21:55Speaker 02

  Send us your facts. Our email is hello at joeandjamespod.com. Our WhatsApp is 07822034330. And you can follow us on socials at joeandjamespod. And you can watch all our full episodes on YouTube. Just search for Joe and James Fact Up. I should probably say, um, so we are still doing fact checks in a weird way. Um, but it's, it's, um, we're in the middle of the World Up 2026.

• 22:21Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 22:22Speaker 02

  So if you have a fact, at the moment, we're doing sort of fact check. But it's going to be included in a competition. So if you think you've got a really good fact that me and Joe are gonna, let's face it,

• 22:35Speaker 02

  spunk over, um, then, uh, then send it in. Cause we want to hear it and it might get included in our competition. Last week we did, um, octopus punching against, um, Ewan McGregor's brother in the air force called Obi Two. Obi Two has made it through that round. And they were in the final. So keep your facts coming, please. Now, let's get fact up.

• 23:05Speaker 05

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• 23:47Speaker 03

  Right, so I'm gonna start straight away, James.

• 23:52Speaker 02

  Yes, sir.

• 23:53Speaker 03

  With something that Fred has sent in via the Fact App form.

• 23:58Speaker 02

  Good old Fred.

• 23:59Speaker 03

  Good old Fred, and it's an honest name and it's an honest way to get in touch using the form. Probably you just use a simple BIC Bureau.

• 24:08Speaker 02

  Yeah, went through the normal procedures.

• 24:10Speaker 03

  Yeah, he's jumped through the administrative hoops.

• 24:14Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 24:14Speaker 03

  And now he gets his rich reward. And this is, so this is a business idea for me, actually. That's, well, that's, that's how it's been subtitled.

• 24:24Speaker 02

  That's right, yes, business idea for Joe. I can't wait to hear this.

• 24:28Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, okay, okay. And so it says, not strictly a fact, but let's be honest, the format's gone well past that now. Fair enough, Fred, that's fair enough. I was once told the story of a man who brought his own small tollbooth to the entrance of Bristol Zoo Car Park and began charging entry. The story goes, he remained there, so it's a kind of sort of like a little Punch and Judy, but he's.

• 24:55Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah.

• 24:56Speaker 03

  The story goes, he remained there for years, earning millions in revenue, repeat millions. The scam was only discovered when a member of the zoo staff called the local council

• 25:07Speaker 03

  to highlight his absence. Sort of to say he's not there anymore.

• 25:12Speaker 02

  Yeah, they're like, where's the tollbooth guy?

• 25:14Speaker 03

  Where's, yeah, where's the people who charge entry? And, and I suppose, well, I'm on this call, where is all that money going? By this time, he was long gone with the money. No idea if there's any truth to it, but I'd love to hear what you guys think. Great pod, guys, genuinely does bring joy to me. Oh, that's nice.

• 25:32Speaker 02

  Nice one, thanks Fred. That's a great story, I don't think it's, I don't think it's true. There is a bloke.

• 25:39Speaker 03

  I mean, well, no, I don't know, it might, it might, these things, these things do.

• 25:43Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 25:43Speaker 03

  You do, yeah, you do hear, you do hear things.

• 25:45Speaker 02

  So there's a, there was a bloke recently, I don't, I don't have any. Facts or figures.

• 25:52Speaker 03

  That was as.

• 25:53Speaker 02

  That come to my brain. Maybe Lily May can help me out when I start talking here. Um. But there was a bloke recently, there's some major roadworks going on somewhere in the country.

• 26:02Speaker 03

  Okay, that's all right.

• 26:03Speaker 02

  That's the bit of information that would help us out a lot. Um. So.

• 26:06Speaker 03

  Somewhere in the country, it's fine.

• 26:07Speaker 02

  So he.

• 26:09Speaker 03

  Fact.

• 26:09Speaker 02

  Uh. There's a main road somewhere that is really, really disruptive, disrupted. It's gonna be disrupted for a while. So he has built like a dirt track through his farm. And he's charging people to just skip.

• 26:23Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 26:24Speaker 02

  The traffic and just go, go, get straight on to another road.

• 26:27Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 26:28Speaker 02

  And he's, he's charging a toll.

• 26:30Speaker 03

  How much is he?

• 26:31Speaker 02

  I don't know. This was literally like in the, in the last couple of weeks. I remember reading about this in the newspaper.

• 26:40Speaker 03

  Is he gonna reinvest any of the toll money in like getting the road tarmac or like?

• 26:45Speaker 02

  Do you think he, cause that's the thing as well. It's a dirt track. So even I, even I was looking at it going, do you reckon he'll reinvest and, you know, and get some tarmac down and turn this into a sort of, some sort of.

• 26:57Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 26:58Speaker 02

  Bypass.

• 26:59Speaker 04

  From what I can see, I can see why you've made this link as well because it was, um. What my research sent me is that a guy called Mike Watts, who was a businessman from Bath. Basically, um, during a road closure between Bath and Bristol.

• 27:13Speaker 02

  I did think it was in the West Country.

• 27:15Speaker 04

  Yeah, he created a path, um, and hired a crew to make a dirt, dirt and gravel path that which cost him. One thousand, uh, one hundred and fifty thousand pounds and he charged people two pounds to go across it to recoup the.

• 27:27Speaker 02

  Right.

• 27:27Speaker 04

  Costs of doing it.

• 27:28Speaker 03

  Wow. And did he, I mean, he presumably must have done more than break even.

• 27:32Speaker 04

  Well, he actually said, um, here, but this, this is like an AI summary. So I can't trust it necessarily, but he says apparently he lost around fifteen thousand in the end.

• 27:41Speaker 02

  Right.

• 27:43Speaker 03

  Just do an Edinburgh show.

• 27:44Speaker 02

  So he's not, uh. Yeah, just make your own short film. Um. Uh.

• 27:52Speaker 03

  Yeah. Um, buy a, buy a camper van and then sell it for seventy five pounds if you're my dad.

• 27:57Speaker 02

  But like I say, that's, that was, uh, that seems a bit more. You know, he didn't, he didn't, he didn't make millions and disappear.

• 28:06Speaker 03

  But it's interesting that we, that it's also located in the Bristol area.

• 28:11Speaker 04

  Um. And I used to live in Bristol and I had heard of this.

• 28:16Speaker 03

  You'd heard of this.

• 28:16Speaker 04

  Before this message.

• 28:17Speaker 02

  The zoo guy.

• 28:18Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 28:19Speaker 02

  Well, that's, that's fact then.

• 28:21Speaker 03

  And was Bristol Zoo free other than this booth?

• 28:25Speaker 04

  Maybe at the time.

• 28:27Speaker 03

  Yeah, cause I'm just saying, um.

• 28:30Speaker 02

  It might be cheaper for you to go to Bristol a couple of weeks.

• 28:33Speaker 04

  Bristol, Bristol Zoo is actually no longer as well.

• 28:35Speaker 03

  If I upgrade your gold membership, can I skip this guy's booth? That's what I'm saying.

• 28:39Speaker 02

  Who is that bloke? Um, I think he's, I think he's died. I think he's recently died. He was like a lord or something like that, but it was like a, um, a family, um, peerage or something that, you know, those things that get handed down.

• 28:51Speaker 03

  Yeah, handed down. Yeah, rightly so, rightly so.

• 28:54Speaker 02

  And they used to do, there was a daytime TV show that they used to do from there. He used to have like some sort of safari park or something like that, but he was a wacky guy.

• 29:03Speaker 03

  I think I know who you mean actually. I think he was the, the, some sort of mark whist or something. Did he's the one, is he the one who made, he had a statue of two, two.

• 29:09Speaker 02

  He had like long hair.

• 29:11Speaker 03

  The mark was a bath and he had a safari park. Is that right?

• 29:14Speaker 02

  I think it might be, yeah, but he was, um, he was obsessed with that. He, he was a proper hippie. He was like a.

• 29:19Speaker 03

  I think he had a statue of two torties having sex.

• 29:22Speaker 02

  Sixties hippie sort of guy.

• 29:24Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 29:25Speaker 02

  And he was like, honestly, I could get on board with it. He was like, yeah, I've got, I've been given all this stuff. I might as well do something fucking wrong with it.

• 29:31Speaker 03

  I know, I'd love it. I'd bloody love to be an aristocrat. Just jealous.

• 29:35Speaker 02

  But he was like, it was like a rogue aristocrat.

• 29:38Speaker 03

  Well, they do, I think they do go a bit bonkers sometimes because they've got enough money and they're like, what can I do? Drugs, fire, by go mental, I imagine.

• 29:46Speaker 02

  Who's the geezer who killed his nanny or something and then disappeared and nobody knew what fucking happened?

• 29:51Speaker 03

  Lord Lucan.

• 29:52Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 29:52Speaker 03

  Yeah, he, um.

• 29:56Speaker 03

  I think he, he, did he murder his wife?

• 29:59Speaker 02

  Murdered his wife?

• 30:00Speaker 03

  Yeah, he murdered his wife and then he fled.

• 30:04Speaker 02

  But nobody found him?

• 30:05Speaker 03

  They never found him?

• 30:06Speaker 02

  Never found him.

• 30:07Speaker 03

  No, no. Yeah.

• 30:11Speaker 02

  I like that. I like, I like the wackier aristocrats.

• 30:13Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah.

• 30:15Speaker 02

  I don't like the ones that, um.

• 30:17Speaker 03

  I don't like the ones who just make sound business investments and then end up even more rich. He's like, no, that's not fair. No, the point is you're meant to go mental because like you add all the money. So the fair thing is for you to.

• 30:27Speaker 02

  I quite like the ones that inherit everything and they go, right, and how much does this cost a year to run? So they inherit everything, but basically what they've inherited is, it's like me, it's like me buying you a Ferrari.

• 30:40Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 30:41Speaker 02

  And going, oh, it's your birthday, Joe. I've bought you a Ferrari. Um, I put ten thousand pounds down on it. You just need to cover the, the rest of the payments.

• 30:51Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 30:51Speaker 02

  And they inherit this stuff and then they have to sort of, they sort of turn their, they turn the grounds into sort of wedding, um.

• 30:59Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 31:00Speaker 02

  Places and stuff like.

• 31:01Speaker 03

  They're expensive to run. I was speaking to my friend the other day and he said he had a rich mate growing up and like his dad had bought like a country house, like a big pile. But he said that when he went around that they, they were just kind of in like two or three of the rooms. They're always in like the, the, like the snug style rooms.

• 31:20Speaker 02

  The rest of it had to be open to public.

• 31:22Speaker 03

  Really cold and like, well, no, they were cold. They were like.

• 31:25Speaker 02

  That's the, but that's the, um, that's the plot to The Gentleman, uh, the Netflix series.

• 31:31Speaker 03

  Oh, I see.

• 31:32Speaker 02

  So this guy, uh, inherits, he, he's from quite a well-to-do family and stuff and he inherited, inherits all this stuff. And he's like, it costs a fucking fortune to run.

• 31:43Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 31:44Speaker 02

  Um.

• 31:44Speaker 04

  And who stars in The Gentleman?

• 31:46Speaker 02

  Theo.

• 31:47Speaker 03

  Theo James. Yeah. And I was a little bit heartbroken because on the little blurb on the BBC News website where it had the Bond contenders, had Theo James's CV, Inbetweeners movie not even on there.

• 31:58Speaker 02

  Not even on it. Good for him. Well, good. It's probably good.

• 32:01Speaker 03

  It's like one of those.

• 32:02Speaker 02

  From, from experience, get that off your CV.

• 32:05Speaker 03

  It's like one of those WhatsApp messages that's just a picture of a turd and you want to get enough, you want to get enough above it.

• 32:10Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 32:10Speaker 03

  So that it's not.

• 32:11Speaker 02

  If you, uh, if you want to.

• 32:12Speaker 03

  So that it's not there anymore. I was like, well done. You bumped it down.

• 32:14Speaker 02

  If you want to get rid of, if, if you want to get more acting work, get, get Inbetweeners off your CV.

• 32:21Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's not gonna.

• 32:22Speaker 02

  It doesn't do you any favours.

• 32:23Speaker 03

  It's not gonna get him bond, is it?

• 32:24Speaker 02

  It's not, no. Inbetweeners to bond.

• 32:27Speaker 03

  I honestly was like, oh, he'll probably still have that at least like number two on his CV or something.

• 32:32Speaker 02

  Well, he's in.

• 32:33Speaker 03

  Not even there.

• 32:33Speaker 02

  No.

• 32:34Speaker 03

  He's done loads, to be fair.

• 32:35Speaker 02

  He's done loads.

• 32:36Speaker 03

  Absolutely loads.

• 32:37Speaker 02

  Um, but yeah, I like that. What was that? What was that guy?

• 32:41Speaker 04

  Um.

• 32:41Speaker 02

  What was the TV show?

• 32:43Speaker 04

  Well, I'm trying to find, I can see, um, I looked up and there's also the Marquis of Bath, um, and.

• 32:50Speaker 02

  No, I think it was Lord Bath.

• 32:52Speaker 04

  They had lands that they had the Longley Estate.

• 32:57Speaker 03

  That's it, Longley Safari Park.

• 32:58Speaker 02

  Yeah, Longley Safari Park.

• 32:59Speaker 03

  And he's basically bought a load of, um, lions.

• 33:03Speaker 02

  And.

• 33:03Speaker 03

  Um, he goes around in what looks like a huge embroidered dressing gown. He dresses like, is it Bar Bar? You know, the, the elephant, the elephant in the dressing gown. Like, he's dressed as an elephant.

• 33:12Speaker 02

  Is he dead now, though?

• 33:13Speaker 04

  Yeah, I think he's quite long gone.

• 33:15Speaker 02

  No, no, not long gone. No, it must have been like a couple of years ago.

• 33:18Speaker 04

  Okay, but Emma, Emma, Emma Thyn, which is about T H Y N N, she's now the Marchess. Is that how you say that?

• 33:26Speaker 03

  Emma Thyn is a fucking great name. Thyn with a Y.

• 33:29Speaker 02

  I think, I think you'd find it's pronounced Tine.

• 33:32Speaker 03

  Emma Tine.

• 33:33Speaker 04

  Well.

• 33:33Speaker 02

  No, I don't know, I don't know.

• 33:34Speaker 04

  It could be either.

• 33:35Speaker 03

  I pronounce it Emma Bollock.

• 33:36Speaker 02

  Or Marquis or Marquis.

• 33:38Speaker 03

  Um.

• 33:39Speaker 04

  Mark.

• 33:40Speaker 03

  Mar- Marquis, I think.

• 33:42Speaker 02

  It's French.

• 33:43Speaker 03

  Yeah, but I think it's one of those things where like you actually do pronounce it.

• 33:48Speaker 03

  In, I don't know.

• 33:49Speaker 02

  It's like how we say fillet. When you go to America.

• 33:53Speaker 03

  Oh yeah, they say filet. And we're like, don't try and please.

• 33:56Speaker 02

  I'll have a steak filet.

• 33:57Speaker 03

  Yeah. I'm honestly like.

• 34:01Speaker 03

  Pise, yeah, yeah, that's right. No, I think there's, I, I think it is, I think it's one of those things where it's like, what's that champagne where like, um.

• 34:10Speaker 02

  Verve, Clico.

• 34:12Speaker 03

  No, what, give me some time. No, Moet, you do actually say Moet. You don't say Moet. You do actually say Moet.

• 34:20Speaker 03

  Apparently. So, because the French have, it's as though they've laid a trap. They're like, you'll say it like this to try and impress us. But actually, we don't even want you to. We prefer, we prefer just saying things like le weekend. We don't even like French. So don't try and speak French. That's the last thing we want. We like speaking English as a joke. They've got, instead of, you know, I mean, this is probably widely known, but like, they've got a version of Match of the Day. And it's just called Match of le Day.

• 34:48Speaker 03

  But that's their own joke. They're like, it is like they've got this language. They don't even like it. They're like, well, eventually ideally it'll just be all English.

• 34:54Speaker 02

  Well, we had football.

• 34:55Speaker 03

  Because it's sort of funnier or something.

• 34:56Speaker 02

  We had Football Italia.

• 34:58Speaker 03

  Yeah, because that's a Football Italia.

• 35:00Speaker 02

  On Channel Four.

• 35:00Speaker 03

  Yeah. Great show.

• 35:03Speaker 02

  Um.

• 35:03Speaker 03

  Golatso.

• 35:05Speaker 02

  Golatso.

• 35:06Speaker 03

  Was it, was he, was he saying, I never knew, was he saying goal for Lazio? Was it saying go Lazio?

• 35:14Speaker 02

  I've not thought of it.

• 35:15Speaker 03

  Because.

• 35:16Speaker 02

  Golatso. I remember, all I remember is the, um, the little Channel Four, um, used to turn into a little Italian.

• 35:25Speaker 03

  That's right.

• 35:26Speaker 02

  It used to turn into a little footballer with an Italian flag. It was great.

• 35:29Speaker 03

  It was a little, Alice, it was good.

• 35:31Speaker 02

  Um.

• 35:32Speaker 03

  That, but, um, because Gaza played for Lazio, so I wondered whether it was saying goal for Lazio, which seemed a bit involved.

• 35:39Speaker 02

  Um.

• 35:41Speaker 03

  I don't know.

• 35:41Speaker 02

  What are we saying about this toll booth, Joe?

• 35:44Speaker 03

  I, well, I think one thing, one thing that would strike me is, is it the fact that,

• 35:52Speaker 03

  well, actually, maybe it doesn't matter, actually. Was the zoo free and he, um, began charging just because no one else was charging? I.

• 36:02Speaker 04

  Apparently it was never free.

• 36:05Speaker 03

  Have I said this before that I think it was never free? I don't know whether I mentioned this before, but I, one of the things that I find quite sort of charming about London Zoo is that you, you know, you do pay to go in. But if you just walk around the outside of London Zoo, you can see like quite a lot of animals anyway, like, including some of the. You know, I don't wanna have a go at it, but the good ones.

• 36:28Speaker 02

  Right.

• 36:29Speaker 03

  Do you know what I mean?

• 36:30Speaker 02

  Yeah, the glam, the glamour animals.

• 36:31Speaker 03

  Glamour ones, and then you, you pay to go in and you're looking at some spiders or something.

• 36:35Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 36:36Speaker 03

  Another thing that I found out recently, tarantulas, the big spiders, they can live to be like twenty three. Like, they've, they've got one in there, tarantula.

• 36:44Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 36:45Speaker 03

  She's got quite a sort of sweet name, like Charlotte or something.

• 36:49Speaker 02

  Charlotte's Web, I assume that's from.

• 36:52Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah, but actually I don't think she is called Charlotte, but that's what she's got stuck in my head. But, um, anyway, she's quite, um, she's quite old, um, but, um, so it's never been free. Um.

• 37:07Speaker 02

  Listen, it's fact.

• 37:08Speaker 03

  You know, I.

• 37:09Speaker 02

  Let's not.

• 37:09Speaker 03

  I like the idea, I like the idea of this little booth that he kind of goes, I, I, it reminds me of.

• 37:15Speaker 02

  In my head.

• 37:15Speaker 03

  Reminds me of a kind of funny Halloween costume.

• 37:17Speaker 02

  In my head, he's, he's walking with it.

• 37:19Speaker 03

  That's it, he's walking with it, yeah.

• 37:21Speaker 02

  And she just sets it down.

• 37:22Speaker 03

  Yeah, exactly. And then once he's got a load of money, he goes and spends it on running the London Marathon. And then he stays in the costume. And then he gets sponsored and then he wa- makes it all back again.

• 37:32Speaker 02

  Right.

• 37:32Speaker 03

  Um, no, I don't, I mean, I, I'm, it really appeals to me, the idea of this guy going around almost like a comedy robot inside the toll booth. Or you know that guy who looks, what's that costume you wear where you look like you've got like a monk, like you're a monkey in a cage or like, no, you're, you're in a cage being held by a monkey.

• 37:47Speaker 02

  I don't know that one.

• 37:47Speaker 03

  I think JP wears it in one of the freshman episodes, um, but yeah, so I like this, this, this, this chap going around, um.

• 37:56Speaker 02

  We better move on though, Joe.

• 37:57Speaker 03

  Okay, I mean, I.

• 37:59Speaker 02

  Cause we've got, we've got the world up.

• 38:00Speaker 03

  Okay, I'm not sure he made millions.

• 38:04Speaker 02

  I think he made millions and then he disappeared.

• 38:07Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 38:07Speaker 04

  That's why we don't know.

• 38:08Speaker 03

  I love it if he made millions and then he bought the zoo and they'd be like, oh, that's annoying, cause you. Oh, you've, oh, you've done us there. They'd be like, I'll tell you what, game recognized game. But well, I mean, oh, you, you fucker, but well, okay, well, enjoy playing with the animals, I suppose.

• 38:26Speaker 03

  They're yours now, the lion eats, um, ah, just look it up, just Google it, it's fine. But, um, one of the spiders is quite poisonous. I think it's called the, um, ah, just look it up.

• 38:34Speaker 02

  It's called Charlotte.

• 38:35Speaker 03

  It's called Charlotte, yeah, it's old though. Um, so, but talk to you about the nineties, it's fine.

• 38:39Speaker 02

  I've got to have a piss.

• 38:40Speaker 03

  Okay, that's fine, yeah, no, no, that's absolutely fine.

• 38:42Speaker 02

  I'm gonna go for a slash and then we'll be back with, um, World Up.

• 38:45Speaker 03

  Yep, okay.

• 38:46Speaker 04

  Hello.

• 38:47Speaker 03

  Off you go. Sorry, I probably.

• 38:51Speaker 02

  No.

• 38:51Speaker 03

  Actually, I'm not going to apologize for talking too much.

• 38:52Speaker 02

  We need to talk.

• 38:55Speaker 04

  It is.

• 38:56Speaker 03

  It is my job, isn't it?

• 38:57Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 39:04Speaker 01

  Welcome to 215 Maple Drive. We just put this property on the market.

• 39:09Speaker 05

  Love the crown molding.

• 39:11Speaker 01

  Oh, wait until you see the walk-in closets and the bathroom tile.

• 39:15Speaker 05

  Does it have Verizon FiOS? You know, 100% fiber internet.

• 39:19Speaker 01

  No FiOS, but it looks like it's got cable. Let's check out the kitchen.

• 39:22Speaker 05

  No FiOS? Yeah. No, thank you.

• 39:25Speaker 01

  Don't you want to see the rest? Okay. Bye bye.

• 39:28Speaker 06

  Get Verizon FiOS because when you're moving, it's 100% or nothing.

• 39:33Speaker 00

  Hello, this is Suzy Ruffel.

• 39:34Speaker 01

  And Maisy Adams.

• 39:35Speaker 00

  And together we host Big Kick Energy. Hey Mais, what is it?

• 39:38Speaker 01

  Only the best podcast ever.

• 39:39Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 39:40Speaker 01

  A comedy entertainment podcast with a focus on all things women's football, all things hilarious, all things friendship. It's a laugh is what it is, Ruffel.

• 39:50Speaker 00

  Yeah, and a fair bit of gossiping too.

• 39:51Speaker 01

  Oh, and a lovely bit of gossip. Chow down on the gossip.

• 39:56Speaker 00

  You can listen wherever you get your podcasts. Just need to search Big Kick Energy.

• 40:00Speaker 01

  Grab a knife and fork and tuck in, baby.

• 40:06Speaker 02

  Right.

• 40:07Speaker 03

  Right then.

• 40:10Speaker 02

  Here we go. Uh, it's, um.

• 40:13Speaker 03

  Alrighty, good morning, job seekers.

• 40:16Speaker 02

  It's time for World Up.

• 40:18Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 40:19Speaker 02

  Which is our tournament that we're running at the moment.

• 40:21Speaker 03

  Round two.

• 40:22Speaker 02

  It's the, uh, it's the biggest tournament that will be going on this summer, that's for sure. Uh, we're, we're at round two now. Um, this is where we put the facts up against each other and we work out which is the best one. I'm worried about the final. How many do we get in the final?

• 40:38Speaker 00

  Five.

• 40:38Speaker 02

  Three, four, five. There'll be five facts in the final and then we've got to pick one out of the five.

• 40:43Speaker 00

  Correct.

• 40:43Speaker 02

  That's going to be tough. Um.

• 40:45Speaker 00

  Maybe we can do sort of a silver and bronze placement if we feel that's right.

• 40:50Speaker 02

  I think, yeah, they do.

• 40:51Speaker 03

  It's a sort of, um.

• 40:52Speaker 02

  You get, you get second and third place runners up in the, in.

• 40:58Speaker 00

  Not lesser competition.

• 40:59Speaker 02

  In the other competition that's going on.

• 41:01Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 41:02Speaker 03

  I'm thinking it's going to be a kind of Crufts style final where they'll trot round. Here we go. One, two, three.

• 41:09Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 41:09Speaker 03

  That's the order.

• 41:11Speaker 02

  We just feel the heat from their anus.

• 41:14Speaker 03

  Yeah, we do, we um.

• 41:16Speaker 02

  Is that a thing?

• 41:17Speaker 04

  I, I wouldn't know.

• 41:19Speaker 02

  I feel like they do that in Crufts, don't they?

• 41:21Speaker 03

  There is definitely a bit where they're looking up their arse.

• 41:23Speaker 02

  I don't know, they're sort of, yeah, they're always like looking up the arse.

• 41:26Speaker 03

  If you're not looking up the arse, what the fuck are you doing?

• 41:28Speaker 02

  Exactly. Well, let's look up the arse of these next couple of facts. Uh, Joe, I think.

• 41:35Speaker 03

  Lift up the tail and look up the arse hole.

• 41:38Speaker 02

  Before Joe brings us our first fact, I think, I believe we've got a jingle.

• 42:21Speaker 03

  I can't, at no point can I look at where like the first beat of the bar was.

• 42:24Speaker 02

  Joe, I think you've got, um, the first one for this week.

• 42:27Speaker 03

  I do. So this one comes from Donza89 via Instagram.

• 42:33Speaker 02

  Donza.

• 42:34Speaker 03

  Donza.

• 42:36Speaker 02

  You're spouting to Donza?

• 42:39Speaker 03

  Uh, Donza.

• 42:41Speaker 02

  Who the fuck is Donza?

• 42:44Speaker 02

  Hey, Donza, how you going? Go on.

• 42:48Speaker 03

  Donza would be out bringing in the lambs or something. Okay. Volkswagen's most sold part is actually a sausage. Okay. The VW Curry Verst, part number 199398500A.

• 43:08Speaker 03

  VW sold over eight point five million sausages in twenty twenty four.

• 43:14Speaker 02

  Now, I was about to say, oh, I've heard this fact. Um, I've just remembered, I, I read it. It was in one of the comments of the, yeah.

• 43:25Speaker 04

  Correct.

• 43:27Speaker 02

  I've not heard of Volkswagen selling sausages. This is new news to me.

• 43:35Speaker 03

  They sell sausages.

• 43:35Speaker 02

  Why would they sell sausages?

• 43:37Speaker 03

  Well, I suppose they sell sausages because Brits and others.

• 43:41Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 43:42Speaker 03

  Probably go over to Oktoberfest or what have you.

• 43:47Speaker 02

  Right.

• 43:47Speaker 03

  And they are like, well. What's, you know, what, what's German?

• 43:56Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 43:56Speaker 03

  Wouldn't it be funny if?

• 43:58Speaker 02

  A car and a sausage and cars, cars, sausages and beers. I imagine there's a lot of pressure at the VW company.

• 44:06Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 44:07Speaker 02

  You know, they probably turn up and they're like, how many sausages have we sold this year? Oh, mein Führer, we have sold eight point five million. Good. You have not sold them enough sausages. Take him away. Get him out of my sight.

• 44:24Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 44:25Speaker 02

  That sort of thing.

• 44:25Speaker 03

  Yeah. No, I have no doubt. No, no, it's, I mean. Um, so that, so you're saying that it's a, it's a high pressure working environment.

• 44:34Speaker 02

  How many sausages have you sold? I'm not sure. Well, we have missed working, making your talk.

• 44:40Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 44:41Speaker 02

  That's.

• 44:41Speaker 03

  No, I mean, look, no, I mean.

• 44:45Speaker 04

  I can give you some information on this if you'd like.

• 44:47Speaker 03

  Okay, I'm just gonna say, this is my guess.

• 44:50Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 44:50Speaker 03

  Is that it's kind of a gimmick. It's sort of for an international, maybe a tourist market. I don't really understand why. It's only the, it's only the, the, the, so on eight point five million.

• 45:03Speaker 02

  Also, it's confusing because it's because it's been classed as a part. Of a, a, a manufacturing part. It's got a number and everything, a part number.

• 45:13Speaker 03

  Maybe, do they sell them on tours of their factory?

• 45:16Speaker 02

  Is it a big joke? Is it like our Ikea, um?

• 45:20Speaker 03

  Well, Ikea sold meatballs, didn't they?

• 45:21Speaker 02

  They sell a lot of meatballs, don't they?

• 45:22Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 45:23Speaker 02

  So it might be that sort of thing.

• 45:24Speaker 03

  I think it's kitsch or a gimmick. Maybe it is for a domestic market, but in which case it's kind of a joke. It's maybe a souvenir from the VW factory. In, in the same way that you can, some car manufacturers make a, make a little kind of micro machine version of their car as a present, VW, like, wouldn't it be funny if made a sausage? That's my guess. I think it's, I think it probably is true, but I think the VW kind of are slightly leaning into the kitsch of it. That's my guess.

• 45:47Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 45:48Speaker 04

  Okay, so from what I've found out, that the sausages is actually produced for its factories. Um, so for the people who actually work there.

• 45:57Speaker 02

  Oh. Right, no, that's bullshit, man.

• 46:00Speaker 04

  The factories are quite remote, so it's to create supply for the remote workers.

• 46:04Speaker 02

  So they're, they're putting the kitchens of the factory workers.

• 46:08Speaker 04

  Correct. Um, so that's what they serve at all the canteens and all that sort of stuff.

• 46:12Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 46:12Speaker 04

  But as, as well as that, they're also apparently served at football stadiums and given to Volkswagen customers as well.

• 46:18Speaker 03

  Oh, so the most sold.

• 46:21Speaker 02

  I think it's a technicality. It's like, it's not like we sell sausages and look how many we've sold.

• 46:26Speaker 03

  If you're working for VW, shouldn't you be getting your sausage for free?

• 46:30Speaker 02

  This is what, well, someone's got to pay for the sausage.

• 46:33Speaker 04

  Mm-hmm.

• 46:35Speaker 02

  Put that on a T-shirt.

• 46:36Speaker 04

  Apparently they also.

• 46:37Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 46:38Speaker 04

  Apparently they also make their own ketchup as well. It goes alongside the sausages.

• 46:43Speaker 03

  Make their own ketchup?

• 46:44Speaker 04

  Mm-hmm.

• 46:46Speaker 03

  Well, well.

• 46:47Speaker 02

  I'd prefer a must, I'd prefer a bit of mustard.

• 46:50Speaker 04

  Apparently, apparently it's, um, yeah, it's, it's got a bit more to it than the normal ketchup.

• 46:56Speaker 02

  Normal ketchup.

• 46:57Speaker 04

  I think, I think to make up for the lack of mustard.

• 46:58Speaker 02

  That's, um, I, I, I feel like that's a tech, I feel like it's a technical.

• 47:04Speaker 03

  I think, well, they're, they're calling it a part. I mean, I suppose.

• 47:09Speaker 03

  Do you have to have sausage?

• 47:10Speaker 02

  I feel like.

• 47:11Speaker 03

  I mean, what I'm saying is, if you want, if you're a vegetarian, is there another part? Like, if you say, can I, I'm a vegetarian, so can I not have part number one nine nine three nine eight five oh oh A? Could I please have part number one nine nine, yeah, B, and then that's like broccoli?

• 47:24Speaker 02

  Yeah. Or, or, or, you know.

• 47:26Speaker 03

  Well, they're not, obviously.

• 47:27Speaker 02

  Or, what do they call it?

• 47:29Speaker 03

  They can't haven't constructed the broccoli, have they?

• 47:31Speaker 02

  Corn, a corn sausage.

• 47:32Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 47:32Speaker 02

  I think if, you know, Walls

• 47:37Speaker 02

  or, you know, a big sausage company, um.

• 47:42Speaker 02

  Isn't it weird that Walls?

• 47:43Speaker 03

  Do you know that Walls, their most sold part is actually BMW?

• 47:47Speaker 02

  Right.

• 47:48Speaker 03

  It's weird because they, um, they feed them to their.

• 47:51Speaker 02

  Isn't it weird that Walls makes sausage and also ice cream? Is it the same company?

• 47:56Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 47:57Speaker 02

  It is.

• 47:57Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 47:58Speaker 02

  So that makes me think that they're, they're people that don't give a fuck. They're just after the old, the, the old Yankee dollar. They're just, uh.

• 48:06Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 48:07Speaker 02

  We'll sell ice cream, we'll sell sausages, what, sausage, whatever you want. Like Mars makes the most cat food or something.

• 48:14Speaker 03

  Oh, God, does it?

• 48:15Speaker 02

  The Mars Corporation.

• 48:17Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah, it does, doesn't it?

• 48:18Speaker 02

  They've got their chocolate wing, but they've also got like cat and dog food and, and I think they also do other domestic sort of products as well. It makes me think they're not in, they're, they're not in it for the passion.

• 48:29Speaker 03

  I know.

• 48:30Speaker 02

  They're not chocolatiers, are they?

• 48:32Speaker 03

  No, I tell you, he's a chocolatier, Mr. Lint.

• 48:35Speaker 02

  I knew you were gonna say lint. I knew you were gonna, I knew you were gonna say lint. I knew you were gonna say lint.

• 48:42Speaker 03

  Yeah, he's a choc, that's a fucking chocolatier.

• 48:44Speaker 02

  So what you like about lint, their fucking Easter bunnies are out of this world.

• 48:48Speaker 03

  I'm not saying anything about lint, I think lint is good.

• 48:50Speaker 02

  My kids, uh, like, we were doing.

• 48:52Speaker 03

  Hannah's a lint girl.

• 48:53Speaker 02

  Me and Claire were doing, um.

• 48:54Speaker 03

  Seventy percent.

• 48:55Speaker 02

  We were doing our tour over Christmas.

• 48:57Speaker 03

  Hannah, they haven't got lint, do you want, do you want another one?

• 48:59Speaker 02

  Over, over Easter, me, me and Claire were doing our tour over, uh, over Easter. And, um, who was it that got those lint, like, was it you? Yeah. Our manager arranged for some treats because it was over Christmas. Over Easter. Over Easter.

• 49:14Speaker 03

  Easter.

• 49:16Speaker 02

  Whatever.

• 49:18Speaker 02

  Easter's sort of the anti-Christmas, isn't it?

• 49:21Speaker 03

  Well, Easter's a-

• 49:22Speaker 02

  It's the complete opposite of Christmas.

• 49:23Speaker 03

  Well, Easter's like, good news and bad, I suppose, isn't it? It's like-

• 49:26Speaker 02

  Christmas was, uh-

• 49:27Speaker 03

  Christmas is like, well, we'll see.

• 49:28Speaker 02

  But listen, I can't keep up with the games.

• 49:30Speaker 03

  Christmas is like, as a baby-

• 49:31Speaker 02

  He was born on Christmas and he was fucking born again on Easter.

• 49:34Speaker 03

  I know.

• 49:34Speaker 02

  I'm struggling here, Jesus. Help me out.

• 49:36Speaker 03

  Christmas is like, a baby's here, could be good, could be bad. Easter's like, he was good, but bad news, he's dead.

• 49:42Speaker 02

  He's dead.

• 49:42Speaker 03

  But good news, he's alive again.

• 49:44Speaker 02

  He's alive again. Um, yeah.

• 49:46Speaker 03

  Easter's a complicated story. Christmas is a much simpler story. Christmas is like, the baby's been born.

• 49:51Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 49:51Speaker 03

  Well, no, to be fair, it was complicated because there was no father.

• 49:55Speaker 02

  The twelve, yeah.

• 49:56Speaker 03

  Oh, thank God. Do you remember that? Oh, the Holy Spirit will come on you. Do you remember that? That was unbelievable. Every, we knew it was coming, every Christmas.

• 50:03Speaker 02

  I'll be honest, the whole-

• 50:03Speaker 03

  How will I get pregnant? The Holy Spirit will come on you.

• 50:06Speaker 02

  I feel like if Jeremy-

• 50:07Speaker 03

  The Bible.

• 50:08Speaker 02

  I feel like if Jeremy and Carl was around Bethlehem, uh, around Christmas, Christmas. Obviously, it wasn't called Christmas time at the time, but he would have gone, it would have been, Carl sees the child's father. They would have done paternity tests. Imagine that? She says, that is a Jer-, that's like a Jerry Springer, um, episode.

• 50:29Speaker 02

  She's pregnant, I've not had sex with her yet. She reckons it was God.

• 50:34Speaker 02

  And poor old Joseph's just sat there and went, yeah, all right then. So, okay.

• 50:39Speaker 03

  Admit it, admit it.

• 50:40Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 50:41Speaker 03

  You were too busy out having a good time.

• 50:43Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 50:46Speaker 03

  Do you know what a manger is?

• 50:48Speaker 02

  Trough?

• 50:48Speaker 03

  It's a thing of horses to eat out of.

• 50:50Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 50:50Speaker 03

  Dog in the manger.

• 50:51Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 50:52Speaker 03

  That's another thing as well. The dog was like, it didn't even want, I never really understood the dog in the manger because doesn't the dog? It probably is quite nice to be in the manger.

• 51:00Speaker 02

  What's the dog in the manger?

• 51:01Speaker 03

  The dog in the manger is basically saying, you're spoiling someone else's fun, even though it isn't fun for you. So it's like, say you want, say I wanted to go and see a play.

• 51:09Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 51:10Speaker 03

  And you don't even want to see the play, but you deliberately booked the last two tickets just so I can't do it.

• 51:14Speaker 02

  You had to go on someone's date beforehand.

• 51:16Speaker 03

  That's right. I had to go on a date.

• 51:17Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 51:18Speaker 03

  And I didn't, I wasn't even invited to the play.

• 51:20Speaker 02

  No.

• 51:21Speaker 03

  I was just to the first bit. Um, but-

• 51:26Speaker 03

  If, say you bought the tickets to the play and you didn't even wanna see the play, but it was just so I couldn't go. I'd, I'd accuse you of being a dog in the manger.

• 51:35Speaker 02

  Right.

• 51:35Speaker 03

  And the idea is that the dog doesn't even like being in the manger, but it's just doing it. So the horse can't eat the hay.

• 51:42Speaker 02

  Do you know what, my-

• 51:43Speaker 03

  Well, I think the manger does sound nice.

• 51:45Speaker 02

  I think my dog-

• 51:46Speaker 03

  Cause a dog, I think a dog would love being in a manger.

• 51:47Speaker 02

  I think my dog does do stuff like that.

• 51:50Speaker 03

  Hmm.

• 51:50Speaker 02

  I'm convinced my dog does stuff.

• 51:52Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 51:53Speaker 02

  Not because he wants to.

• 51:54Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 51:54Speaker 02

  Because he knows it'll piss me off. I'm like that with Claire.

• 51:58Speaker 03

  Hmm. Well, you've got, you know, dogs in mangers left, right and centre.

• 52:01Speaker 02

  Yeah. Um.

• 52:03Speaker 03

  Shay Buckley's.

• 52:04Speaker 02

  Right. What we say, do we like this fact?

• 52:07Speaker 03

  Um.

• 52:07Speaker 02

  Do we like it?

• 52:08Speaker 03

  Uh.

• 52:09Speaker 02

  I'm not sure I'm a big fan.

• 52:11Speaker 03

  They're calling it a part. And I guess because of that, it, it, it's, um, it does, it, it passes muster.

• 52:20Speaker 02

  I think Don's has let in an own goal. Early on.

• 52:23Speaker 03

  No, I don't.

• 52:23Speaker 02

  We don't know what the next fact is. But I think, I think this fact is one nil down already.

• 52:29Speaker 03

  I-

• 52:30Speaker 02

  I'm not a big fan of this fact. I think it's, I think it's, um.

• 52:34Speaker 03

  I'm, I'm-

• 52:34Speaker 02

  I haven't learnt anything from it. I think it's, I, I think it's a fake fact. I think it's like a- Like, yeah, all right, but yeah, they sell a lot of sausages, but that's because they've, they've manoeuvred themselves into a position.

• 52:47Speaker 04

  They've created the demand.

• 52:49Speaker 03

  But they do call it a part.

• 52:51Speaker 02

  That's stupid.

• 52:52Speaker 03

  But I wonder if anything else, what I'd like from this is to know that any other things that you can buy in the canteen that are parts and have a number.

• 52:59Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 53:00Speaker 03

  And also is there some way in which, because in labelling it as a part, do they in some way get to? Maybe, do they get to kind of write it up differently in the accounts?

• 53:10Speaker 02

  Like-

• 53:10Speaker 03

  Do you know what I mean?

• 53:10Speaker 02

  Well, yeah, there's that. Let's have a little ad break. And then we're gonna come back with the next fact. I'm gonna be honest, Joe. This next fact needs to be dog shit if, uh, if sausage goes through.

• 53:25Speaker 04

  We've got form.

• 53:26Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 53:27Speaker 02

  So here we go. Um, uh, enjoy, enjoy these ads.

• 53:34Speaker 02

  Okay, welcome back. We now need to discuss our next submitted fact to see. It's going to go up against Donza's sausage. And this fact comes from Greg Austin via Instagram. Greg says chainsaws were originally invented in the late 18th century. Chainsaws were originally invented, so the 1700s, to assist with difficult childbirths.

• 54:03Speaker 03

  Assist. Imagine if you're having a difficult childbirth. They were like, don't worry, we've, um, help's on the way.

• 54:09Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 54:10Speaker 03

  What's that noise? Unbelievable.

• 54:14Speaker 02

  To be fair, that'd be quite a funny thing. And if I was to have, um, if I was to go again with a child, I think I would plan some stuff. So if Claire's like, if I've, if we, you know, you've checked them in, they're in the bed and stuff. If I ran in with like a sort of Jason hockey mask or something and a chainsaw, right, we're ready. Let's get his baby out of there. I think that would be quite funny.

• 54:42Speaker 03

  Oh my God. Yeah. Yeah, it probably would be quite funny.

• 54:46Speaker 02

  I think Claire would get a kick out of that.

• 54:47Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 54:48Speaker 02

  Um, so yeah, chainsaws were originally invented in the late 18th century. Now, listen.

• 54:53Speaker 03

  I mean, this is, I mean.

• 54:55Speaker 02

  I'm gonna need.

• 54:56Speaker 03

  I feel like I've seen this before somewhere.

• 54:58Speaker 02

  Before.

• 55:00Speaker 03

  Oh, this childbirth was really difficult, but luckily it's now become easy.

• 55:05Speaker 02

  So.

• 55:05Speaker 03

  Thanks to the addition of this chainsaw.

• 55:08Speaker 02

  So this was way before the invention of the combustion engine.

• 55:13Speaker 02

  So it's not a chainsaw in the way that we're thinking of, or that was in my head, which is the thing that you pull and.

• 55:21Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's not like a, what is it Makita or is it?

• 55:24Speaker 02

  Makita?

• 55:25Speaker 03

  Yeah. Do they make chainsaws?

• 55:27Speaker 02

  I'd assume so. They make power tools.

• 55:30Speaker 03

  They're making chainsaws then, baby.

• 55:31Speaker 02

  Makita. It used to, it, well, back in the day, when I.

• 55:34Speaker 03

  House on them making chainsaws.

• 55:35Speaker 02

  When I was, it's, um, I don't know if it's changed now, actually, to be fair. I'm not, I'm not up with my power tools knowledge, but it used to be the Walt, the Walt were the go-to. The Walt drills and stuff like that. And then, um, Makita started sort of coming up going, hey, listen, we do fucking quality shit as well. I wonder what it is now. I don't know. I'll find out soon. Once this podcast goes, goes under. I'm sure I'll have to invest in some new power tools.

• 56:04Speaker 03

  But what would be a chainsaw without an engine?

• 56:07Speaker 02

  Well, this is what I mean. So is it another fact where it's like, oh, it's a chainsaw. It's not, it's not, it's technically a chainsaw. It's not the thing that you're thinking of.

• 56:16Speaker 03

  They did have steam engines. I mean, they did have.

• 56:19Speaker 02

  In the seventeen hundreds?

• 56:20Speaker 03

  They did, yeah. I think the first steam engine was like seven, maybe even the first half of the eighteenth century.

• 56:26Speaker 02

  Is that right?

• 56:27Speaker 03

  Oh, wasn't it like, um, Stephenson's rocket? It was a steam train. And I'm pretty sure that was like seventeen twenty-six or something, earlier than, earlier than one might think. So it's possible that they did have an engine. But I mean, in terms of how on earth that would have connected to a chainsaw.

• 56:48Speaker 02

  Whenever I think of like automation and factories and, uh, and trains and stuff like that, I just think of the eighteen hundreds. But there must have been some, something leading up to that.

• 57:00Speaker 03

  There was something, yeah, I think the, yeah, the, the kind of real like big factories and like big industrialization, heavy industry. That's like the eighteen hundreds. But there was, in terms of the inventions that powered it, that would have been in the seventeen hundreds. And, um, so I, I don't really have.

• 57:18Speaker 02

  I'm guessing it will be something, you know, if you took the pedals off and the chain off a bike.

• 57:23Speaker 03

  Yes, okay.

• 57:24Speaker 02

  And you just had that.

• 57:26Speaker 03

  Fuck, you know, yeah.

• 57:27Speaker 02

  And you ran up to a pregnant woman, hold her still, hold her down.

• 57:33Speaker 02

  Coming in.

• 57:33Speaker 03

  Jesus Christ.

• 57:34Speaker 02

  We'll get this baby out one way or another.

• 57:37Speaker 03

  I suppose.

• 57:37Speaker 02

  But will she survive? That doesn't matter.

• 57:40Speaker 03

  Oh.

• 57:40Speaker 02

  Don't worry about that.

• 57:41Speaker 03

  Honestly, yeah. Um, well, you do have things.

• 57:47Speaker 02

  Poor old women.

• 57:49Speaker 03

  Oh, it's terrible.

• 57:50Speaker 02

  The amount of women that died giving birth, God.

• 57:54Speaker 03

  You do have things that are invented for totally separate purposes for which they end up, those for which they end up being used.

• 58:03Speaker 02

  Oh, it's NASA, isn't it?

• 58:05Speaker 03

  What was NASA supposed to be?

• 58:05Speaker 02

  Well, NASA invented a load of shit. Like back in the sixties, nah, during the Apollo missions and all, I don't, I don't, can't think of any example, or GPS, for example. That's military, but.

• 58:17Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah.

• 58:17Speaker 02

  NASA like had to invent a load of stuff to try and get, get us on the moon or whatever. And then uh, over a few decades, it becomes, it doesn't cost millions of dollars to make that thing anymore. And then, and then it becomes part of our lives.

• 58:34Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 58:34Speaker 02

  I think computers.

• 58:36Speaker 03

  Yeah, oh, and loads of military stuff. I mean, and also like, um, the, the internet was military, it was called, was it called like? Herpanet or something. There was, there was some way of make commu, like you've got a computer here. If only you could get the stuff that's on the hard drive of this computer onto the hard drive of this computer. Cause that'd be useful for military. You can see why that'd be useful.

• 58:55Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 58:55Speaker 03

  And that was called that, it was called something web or net or something. Didn't Tim Berners-Lee invent it in Britain? But then he didn't really. We could have computers in Britain, but we don't, we sort of fumble the marketing of it.

• 59:07Speaker 02

  Yeah, we don't, yeah. I think the internet was invented in Britain.

• 59:13Speaker 03

  Yeah, but then there was also a Harper net, that's it. No, no Darpanet, no, what? I can't remember.

• 59:19Speaker 02

  It doesn't matter.

• 59:20Speaker 03

  It doesn't, I can't remember and it doesn't matter.

• 59:23Speaker 03

  Um, hold on a minute, so.

• 59:25Speaker 02

  The chainsaw, this is gonna be some loophole.

• 59:28Speaker 03

  What's interesting is that these two facts both are, they're sort of paired, aren't they? They're things, they're.

• 59:33Speaker 02

  It's a good pairing.

• 59:34Speaker 03

  They're, they're a product that we think we recognise, the sausage, the chainsaw.

• 59:38Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 59:39Speaker 03

  And yet it comes from an unusual source.

• 59:41Speaker 02

  Yeah, they're being disguised as something else.

• 59:44Speaker 03

  Oh, do you want anything from VW? Not really. What, you don't want a sausage? Oh, I didn't know it was a sausage. Do you want anything from the maternity ward? Not really. What, you don't want a chainsaw? Oh, no, I didn't know it was a chainsaw.

• 59:55Speaker 02

  Oh, this tree, this tree's getting on my nerves. Why don't we pop to the hospital?

• 59:59Speaker 03

  What, what are you talking about? There'll be, there's nothing there to help us.

• 1:00:02Speaker 02

  Oh, just chainsaw, mate.

• 1:00:05Speaker 03

  Oh, just a cha, oh yeah, I forgot a chainsaw won't help to chop down a tree. You fucking numpty.

• 1:00:10Speaker 02

  Lily mate, is there, uh, is there any research? Queen Lily mate, have you done anything to help us out here?

• 1:00:15Speaker 04

  Yeah, I've had a little look because this fact made me shudder.

• 1:00:19Speaker 02

  Is there, um? A drawing.

• 1:00:22Speaker 04

  There's a picture.

• 1:00:22Speaker 02

  Yeah, I need to see this.

• 1:00:23Speaker 04

  Of of what it looks like and it's much smaller than you will imagine.

• 1:00:27Speaker 02

  I was gonna say, yeah.

• 1:00:28Speaker 04

  Um, and it kind of has like a little windy tool.

• 1:00:31Speaker 03

  I see, okay, yeah.

• 1:00:32Speaker 04

  You would have thought like you um thought with the bicycle.

• 1:00:35Speaker 03

  It looks more like a whisk, like that kind of whisk, but on the end is, yeah.

• 1:00:40Speaker 04

  Exactly, um and it was it was sort of primarily used for kind of dealing with diseased and out of place bones.

• 1:00:48Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 1:00:48Speaker 04

  So that's, I think that's where it comes into birth as well. So basically, if your bone structure basically wasn't allowing for.

• 1:00:54Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:00:55Speaker 04

  Uh, your pelvic bones weren't allowing for space for the baby to come through, that they would.

• 1:01:00Speaker 02

  They just get rid of the pelvis, they get rid of that.

• 1:01:02Speaker 04

  At bone, basically, which is obviously disgusting, um but also it would be used for diseased bones. Um, and there was two Scottish doctors who invented it.

• 1:01:12Speaker 02

  So much stuff invented by Scottish doctors.

• 1:01:15Speaker 04

  John Aitken and James Joffrey. Um, it was their invention and it was used for quite some time, I think for basically a century and then. Medical enhancements came.

• 1:01:26Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:01:26Speaker 04

  And I think it became the twisted wire saw, which is the, is it the jiggly or the giggly saw?

• 1:01:34Speaker 03

  Right.

• 1:01:34Speaker 04

  It's now used, which is the like sort of wire and that is what's now used.

• 1:01:38Speaker 02

  Right.

• 1:01:39Speaker 04

  Or was is what it basically.

• 1:01:41Speaker 03

  Well, it's like a kind of like that.

• 1:01:42Speaker 04

  It's like, it's like a wire.

• 1:01:44Speaker 02

  Yeah, so it's just friction.

• 1:01:45Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:01:46Speaker 03

  Right.

• 1:01:47Speaker 02

  It's just a wire being spun uh as fast as you can to sort of. Essentially burn through. Like a cheese, like a cheese, um.

• 1:01:58Speaker 03

  Bloody hell.

• 1:01:58Speaker 02

  String, is that what they call it?

• 1:01:59Speaker 03

  Well, look, look.

• 1:02:01Speaker 02

  You know when you cut cheese with a.

• 1:02:03Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:02:03Speaker 02

  Cheese wire, yeah.

• 1:02:04Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:02:05Speaker 02

  Cheese string. No, that's that thing, yeah.

• 1:02:07Speaker 03

  Cheese string is made out of cheese.

• 1:02:09Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:02:10Speaker 04

  That's not, that's not so bad in childbirth.

• 1:02:12Speaker 03

  Yeah, if somebody, if you, if you come into the maternity ward and you've got a cheese string.

• 1:02:17Speaker 02

  You want a cheese string, love?

• 1:02:18Speaker 03

  She will, yeah. She will be saying, she will be saying ignore, ignore.

• 1:02:24Speaker 02

  It's a glass and a half.

• 1:02:26Speaker 02

  Um, no, that's dairy milk.

• 1:02:28Speaker 03

  Both these facts are quite cheeky in as much as a sausage isn't really a part and that maybe isn't really a chainsaw in the way that we would think.

• 1:02:38Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:02:38Speaker 03

  However.

• 1:02:39Speaker 02

  I think.

• 1:02:39Speaker 03

  That actually gives them a kind of equality.

• 1:02:42Speaker 02

  Yeah, so they, yeah, so they're both as bad as each other is what you're saying.

• 1:02:45Speaker 03

  Well.

• 1:02:45Speaker 02

  You know what I don't like about these facts is that they're trying to trick me.

• 1:02:49Speaker 04

  Why, you don't like the deception?

• 1:02:50Speaker 02

  They're try, yeah, they're very, they're very.

• 1:02:52Speaker 03

  Gaslighting us.

• 1:02:52Speaker 02

  Yeah, absolutely.

• 1:02:53Speaker 03

  They're gaslighting us.

• 1:02:54Speaker 04

  You don't want things you already know, do you?

• 1:02:56Speaker 02

  No, but I want things like, I'll tell you something, if the punching octopus was up against any of these, the octopus would have gone through.

• 1:03:04Speaker 03

  I feel bad for octopus now, the octopus got a really hard draw, group of death.

• 1:03:07Speaker 02

  Yeah, it was a group of death.

• 1:03:08Speaker 03

  Whereas this, money's clearly changed hands.

• 1:03:11Speaker 02

  This is.

• 1:03:12Speaker 03

  Oh, that's funny that Infantino's driving around in that nice new car.

• 1:03:15Speaker 02

  This is Faroe Islands versus Moldova or whatever.

• 1:03:21Speaker 02

  Don't slag off countries.

• 1:03:24Speaker 03

  They, we're not only saying they're bad at football, I think that's all right.

• 1:03:26Speaker 02

  That's fine.

• 1:03:27Speaker 03

  But a Faroe Islands actually almost got in, didn't they?

• 1:03:29Speaker 02

  They're always playing Scotland, always playing Scotland. Scotland is always playing the Faroe Islands. I'd love to know how many times Scotland has played the Faroe Islands. I feel like Scotland is constantly pla, it's always Scotland playing tonight, who are they playing? Oh, they're against the Faroe Islands.

• 1:03:47Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:03:48Speaker 02

  Always fucking playing the Faroe Islands.

• 1:03:49Speaker 03

  Is that the old firm? Scotland and the Faroe Islands?

• 1:03:52Speaker 02

  Um.

• 1:03:53Speaker 04

  They have played each other 11 times in men's international football.

• 1:03:57Speaker 02

  What, in the last year?

• 1:03:59Speaker 03

  Yeah, and what have they done since lunch?

• 1:04:01Speaker 02

  Yeah. Um, right.

• 1:04:04Speaker 03

  Okay, what we're doing here, so we've got the, um, the chainsaw fat and the sausage fat.

• 1:04:07Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:04:08Speaker 03

  I just, I feel that, um.

• 1:04:10Speaker 02

  We've got to pick one. And I don't, I don't want to throw it over to Lily May this time. We've, we put Queen, we put the, we put our Queen.

• 1:04:16Speaker 03

  Now, look.

• 1:04:17Speaker 02

  In an awkward position.

• 1:04:18Speaker 04

  Thank you.

• 1:04:18Speaker 02

  Last week.

• 1:04:19Speaker 03

  We did.

• 1:04:20Speaker 04

  I didn't want to vote against the Lily, but that's what happened and I'm sorry.

• 1:04:24Speaker 02

  Now.

• 1:04:25Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah, another, yeah, we, it gives, we get Joe's, James's and Lily's. That's, that's who gets through.

• 1:04:32Speaker 04

  Um, if it was a Lily May, almost certainly would have been biased.

• 1:04:35Speaker 03

  Lily May would have gone through. I think that probably.

• 1:04:43Speaker 03

  Just because I think there is a little bit of distance between, when I'm looking, because you said that last time, mate, this counts as as me like slandering one of the facts, but I'm not slandering it. I'm just saying that to me, the chainsaw one is not quite a chainsaw in the way that we might think of a chainsaw. And I think because of that, I can't believe we're doing, I can't believe we're doing this. But I think we're going to go back to part number one, nine, nine, et cetera. And say, I maybe you're going through, sort of because of vibes as well. I think this.

• 1:05:20Speaker 02

  I think sausage is, I think sausage has come back to one.

• 1:05:24Speaker 03

  I think it's come back to one.

• 1:05:24Speaker 02

  I think it's, I think it's come back to one. It had, it had, it let a goal in in the first five minutes and it's gone on to me personally. Because.

• 1:05:32Speaker 03

  Had a nightmare start.

• 1:05:34Speaker 02

  Because I don't think, I don't think it's a chainsaw.

• 1:05:37Speaker 03

  I'm sure the goalkeeper didn't expect the first thing he'd have to do would be picking the ball out of the back of his own net.

• 1:05:41Speaker 02

  Yeah, but I think, I think the sausage, even though, even though I was a bit down on the sausage fact, when I first heard it, I'm more down on the, on the chainsaw fact.

• 1:05:53Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:05:54Speaker 02

  And just because the sausage, it's got a bit of comedy in there.

• 1:05:57Speaker 03

  I think it's, I think in terms of vibes, the sausage is quite a good vibe. I'd rather be present at the the sausage fact than at the chainsaw fact.

• 1:06:05Speaker 02

  Also.

• 1:06:06Speaker 03

  Because of that.

• 1:06:06Speaker 02

  Something that I'm, that I've overlooked up until the, up until this point, when I am hungry.

• 1:06:11Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:06:12Speaker 02

  Um, curry versed, that's a good sausage.

• 1:06:17Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 1:06:17Speaker 04

  Correct.

• 1:06:18Speaker 02

  That's a really, it's not just, it's not, it's not just your pork, it's not just the breakfast sausage. The curry versed.

• 1:06:27Speaker 02

  I could fucking eat one of those right now. I'll be honest with you.

• 1:06:29Speaker 04

  Hell, yeah.

• 1:06:30Speaker 03

  And it's interesting that you can only get a curry versed at VW. They're not.

• 1:06:34Speaker 02

  No, you can get them other places.

• 1:06:36Speaker 03

  No, but no, what I mean is that if you work at VW, you can't get a regular first.

• 1:06:40Speaker 04

  Yeah, you can't get a breakfast.

• 1:06:41Speaker 02

  Which makes me think that the, this also the standard of the sausage is quite good. And it's a big hit in, in the cafeteria. Like you said.

• 1:06:49Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:06:50Speaker 02

  There'll be other.

• 1:06:51Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:06:51Speaker 02

  Things to eat in that cafeteria, but they, they're, they're selling so many that hand over fist on these sausages.

• 1:06:57Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:06:57Speaker 02

  Um, it's gonna be the sausage for me, Joe.

• 1:07:01Speaker 03

  So, Don's has, Don's has bought.

• 1:07:04Speaker 02

  Donza. Donza's sausage has gone through, um, to the final. Congratulations.

• 1:07:10Speaker 03

  You're in the grand final.

• 1:07:15Speaker 02

  I will say, um, to, who's the other person? Greg, Greg Austin. Um, I will say, Greg, come back.

• 1:07:24Speaker 03

  Do come back.

• 1:07:25Speaker 02

  Come back, come give us another fact.

• 1:07:27Speaker 04

  Wow.

• 1:07:27Speaker 02

  Don't be disheartened.

• 1:07:28Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:07:29Speaker 02

  Just because you didn't, you didn't cut the mustard, what? This time.

• 1:07:34Speaker 03

  You didn't cut the part B.

• 1:07:35Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:07:36Speaker 03

  This time.

• 1:07:37Speaker 02

  Anyway, Joe.

• 1:07:38Speaker 03

  Oh.

• 1:07:39Speaker 02

  I am.

• 1:07:39Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:07:40Speaker 02

  All fact out.

• 1:07:41Speaker 03

  Me too.

• 1:07:42Speaker 02

  My brains have been fact out. Uh, what have we learned? What have we learned? Jesus, it felt like ages ago that we started this episode. I've not learned anything. That's the, that's the, that's the, that's the honest answer.

• 1:07:55Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 1:07:56Speaker 02

  I've not learned a gosh darn single thing, Joe. Um, and you know, good.

• 1:08:02Speaker 03

  We learned that stuff at the zoo. That was quite.

• 1:08:04Speaker 02

  There we go. That, no, we didn't learn that.

• 1:08:06Speaker 04

  Didn't really learn.

• 1:08:07Speaker 02

  We didn't really learn anything.

• 1:08:08Speaker 03

  Oh, did that turn out to be true or not?

• 1:08:10Speaker 02

  We don't know. We left it, we left it hanging.

• 1:08:12Speaker 04

  It's a myth.

• 1:08:13Speaker 02

  We decided that it was funny enough to be true.

• 1:08:15Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's true for us.

• 1:08:17Speaker 02

  So we've not learned anything.

• 1:08:18Speaker 03

  We learned about that road. The guy set up a road, lost 15 grand.

• 1:08:21Speaker 02

  Well, I knew, I knew that before. That was my thing that I had turned up with. Um, so.

• 1:08:25Speaker 03

  Oh yeah, you already knew it.

• 1:08:26Speaker 02

  Yeah. So we've learnt nothing apart from Volkswagen sell a lot of sausages. Um.

• 1:08:34Speaker 02

  We'll be back next week, armed with more facts, chats and another World Up match. That's what we said last week, Lee May, you're getting lazy.

• 1:08:40Speaker 04

  Well, it's the tournament, so I'm just, I'm putting in the tournament.

• 1:08:43Speaker 02

  So we're just doing that, we're doing that for the six weeks.

• 1:08:45Speaker 04

  Well, for five.

• 1:08:46Speaker 02

  That's the only funny thing that we do on this podcast.

• 1:08:48Speaker 04

  Well, thank you.

• 1:08:49Speaker 02

  When you write a little.

• 1:08:50Speaker 04

  You know what, it's about time, I've got some credit for that, so you know what, it was worth it for that.

• 1:08:54Speaker 03

  Can't we get something now? What have we got?

• 1:08:57Speaker 02

  We'll be, we'll be back next week, armed with more facts, chats and...

• 1:09:01Speaker 04

  What do we talk about?

• 1:09:07Speaker 04

  Not easy, is it?

• 1:09:08Speaker 03

  And men charging to see big cats.

• 1:09:13Speaker 03

  Is that right?

• 1:09:13Speaker 02

  Yeah, we got, yeah.

• 1:09:15Speaker 04

  Well, that's...

• 1:09:16Speaker 03

  Do you want to go back to another World Up?

• 1:09:17Speaker 02

  I feel like we need to leave the queen up to this one.

• 1:09:21Speaker 02

  Don't forget that you can get in touch with us if you'd like us to fact check something that feels true to you, or whatever nonsense you'd like to tell us. Our email is [email protected], our WhatsApp is 07822034330 and don't forget to follow us on social media at @joanjamespod and head to the podcast description if you've already forgotten those details. We'll be back next week with another, with round three of the Joan James's World Up. Thanks, guys. There we go.

• 1:09:48Speaker 03

  Bye.

• 1:10:04Speaker 05

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