James Buckley Fancies Seagulls?

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• 0:01Speaker 00

  I'm Claire Buckley and this Halloween on my podcast, Pretty Scary, we are gonna cover the stories that keep you up at night. Real crimes, ghosts and aliens. Plus, the scariest movies to watch this spooky season with the lights off. So, as the nights draw in, the pumpkins are carved and somewhere in the dark, something is scratching at the window. It's probably just the cat, right? Get the candles lit in search for Pretty Scary with Claire Buckley.

• 0:41Speaker 01

  I do these evenings sometimes where I sort of kind of answer questions about The Inbetweeners.

• 0:47Speaker 02

  People love that, though.

• 0:48Speaker 01

  They like it. And one of the questions was, it was a really good question. It was, if The Inbetweeners was being made now, what four young comedians do you think would play the four leads? And I was like, well, that has totally fucked me. I mean, I can't even tell you the name. I mean, I was honestly like, well, this is, I just had to say, I don't know any, I don't know the names of any young comedians. I'm really sorry. I guess I'm just not.

• 1:12Speaker 02

  To give us, to give us a little bit of credit, I think that was, that was a part of the, the ingredients, a part of that little lightning in a bottle thing. I don't think anyone else could do that, the way we did it. Because we're not good at, like.

• 1:29Speaker 01

  I sometimes think.

• 1:31Speaker 02

  As a foursome, right?

• 1:33Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:34Speaker 02

  I know that's between us, between me and you and the boys and stuff. Yeah, some of us are better at some things and some of us can't do other things. But us together, I think that's, The Inbetweeners was us at our best.

• 1:46Speaker 01

  I think, yeah.

• 1:47Speaker 02

  I think that was like, that was what we can do.

• 1:50Speaker 01

  We were greater than the sum of our parts.

• 1:51Speaker 02

  And we can, yeah.

• 1:53Speaker 01

  And I say, well, shit, just being a part.

• 1:55Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:55Speaker 01

  Like, well, I'm just, I'm just a lever.

• 1:57Speaker 02

  It is.

• 1:58Speaker 01

  On my own, with nothing to lever. Or a crank or something.

• 2:02Speaker 02

  It's another example, because we just, we laughed all the way through that.

• 2:06Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:07Speaker 02

  There wasn't a point where we weren't crying with laughter. We were constantly struggling to do scenes. Took us take after take after take, because we would just keep making each other laugh. We were constantly being told, come on, guys, sun's going down and stuff like that.

• 2:23Speaker 01

  On it like to the point where like, when it came out and they edited it together.

• 2:29Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:31Speaker 01

  Into like little stories.

• 2:33Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:33Speaker 01

  Called episodes. I was like, why the fuck you done that?

• 2:37Speaker 02

  Why'd you get rid of all the funny stuff that we were doing?

• 2:39Speaker 01

  Like a hobby or something? You've made a little story out of it. It's weird, isn't it? Of all the mucking around, you've made it a kind of, it's like a little scrapbook, isn't it? You've taken bits and you've like a sort of patchwork quilt and you've kind of made it into little stories.

• 2:51Speaker 02

  You know how directors do their own cut and.

• 2:55Speaker 01

  I always wanted to see that cut of like the shittest takes.

• 2:57Speaker 02

  What, what about?

• 2:59Speaker 01

  That'd be my.

• 3:00Speaker 02

  You know, like you get, you get films, it's like the Zack Snyder cut or something like that. Or the, or the Richard Donner cut. It's quite a famous one. I think of the first or second Superman film or something like that. And the, and it's, I don't know, it's always like an hour too long or something or.

• 3:18Speaker 01

  This is just all that.

• 3:19Speaker 02

  Ridley, Ridley's always doing his own cut of stuff, I feel like. Um.

• 3:23Speaker 01

  I've seen the.

• 3:24Speaker 02

  I wonder if Ian and Damon could go through the, go through the rushes or whatever and um, create a whole, create a whole new series of the in-betweeners, completely different storyline.

• 3:36Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 3:36Speaker 02

  They did that with Anchorman.

• 3:38Speaker 01

  A whole other storyline.

• 3:40Speaker 02

  There's an alternate, I might be wrong, I might be talking absolute bollocks here, but I think there's a complete alternate. Um, film, Anchorman film, because so much stuff is improvised and um, and you know, I did a film with um, Andy Samberg. And The Lonely Island lot and.

• 4:01Speaker 02

  Judd Apatow and it was um.

• 4:05Speaker 01

  That's some.

• 4:05Speaker 02

  And when I was making the film, I was like, and we were doing the scenes in completely different ways every take. And it was, and you were really encouraged to just be funny, just trying to be funny, just, you know, do whatever, do whatever you want to do. Um, and when I made that, when, after I made, finished making that film, I was like, I don't know what. They could go in so many directions with this film. There could be, there's about four different storylines that they could, that they could.

• 4:32Speaker 01

  Is that, yeah, I mean, and that is kind of more the American way of doing it.

• 4:37Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 4:37Speaker 01

  But I mean, is that just because they've got like more time and money?

• 4:42Speaker 02

  I think so, yeah, I think that's what it is. That's definitely what it is. Yeah, you, you, you definitely have a lot more, um. It's literally like, first take is like, oh, just get, just sort of do what's written.

• 4:55Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 4:55Speaker 02

  And then, and then they do that in one take.

• 4:58Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 4:58Speaker 02

  And they're like, right, we got that. So that's fine.

• 5:00Speaker 01

  That was the problem with the Metronas though, was the, to get to that one take.

• 5:04Speaker 02

  That was a problem.

• 5:05Speaker 01

  I mean, they, they did spend quite a lot of time and money, but it was just to get to that base level of.

• 5:10Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 5:11Speaker 01

  The lines.

• 5:12Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 5:13Speaker 01

  So that was the flaw. And when you went, you just quickly do it as written.

• 5:16Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 5:16Speaker 01

  Well, we won't quickly do it as written.

• 5:19Speaker 02

  Well, yeah.

• 5:20Speaker 01

  Well.

• 5:20Speaker 02

  I remember I kept.

• 5:21Speaker 01

  Do what, do what is written.

• 5:22Speaker 02

  I kept getting told off um for saying.

• 5:26Speaker 02

  That, well, it's the gist.

• 5:27Speaker 01

  You've got the gist of it, yeah.

• 5:29Speaker 02

  They're like, can you, Ian did not like that. So I was like, can you just um say the lines that are written? And I was like, well, it's the gist of it, isn't it?

• 5:36Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 5:37Speaker 02

  That's pretty much what you're trying to say.

• 5:39Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah. But yeah, I suppose.

• 5:43Speaker 02

  But it's also.

• 5:43Speaker 01

  I've got mixed feelings because like, on, on one hand, I know they have been through like eight or nine drafts of each script. But then on the other hand, the lines were just stuff like probably up the arse and stuff. And you're like, well, I think maybe you are allowed to just say the gist of it, to be honest.

• 5:59Speaker 02

  Precise.

• 6:02Speaker 02

  And they would have, and you know for a fact that they would have like fought for having stuff still in the script. They would like, they would have been, they would have battled with Channel Four the whole way. And they were like, right, great. We've made, we've gotten to back down. We want this line in it. And then I'm just going, well, it's the gist of it, do you know what I mean? Yeah.

• 6:21Speaker 01

  My favourite battle that they had was about whether one of the films was going to be a fifteen or an eighteen. And it all came down to whether you had to see that man's helmet and asshole.

• 6:32Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 6:33Speaker 01

  Or just one of the two.

• 6:34Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 6:36Speaker 01

  I mean, that's weird, isn't it?

• 6:37Speaker 02

  I think there is, I think there's two versions.

• 6:39Speaker 01

  So you get the, you get the helmet of fifteen.

• 6:41Speaker 02

  I think they brought out an eighteen version.

• 6:43Speaker 01

  Fifteen, you get the choice.

• 6:44Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 6:45Speaker 01

  And then at eighteen, you get the package.

• 6:46Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 6:47Speaker 01

  But that is weird. I was like, I think it was genuinely, it was either or.

• 6:51Speaker 02

  That was a weird day. You weren't there. You and Bird weren't there, were you? That was me and Blake. Oh, man, that was really weird. I don't really, I've got a really, really bad memory with stuff, but I remember that day when we were shooting that. And, um.

• 7:08Speaker 01

  This is the man who could suck his own penis.

• 7:10Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 7:11Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 7:11Speaker 02

  And he bent over in front of me and Blake and to get the shot, like to make the shot look funny. Like our faces were so close to this man's asshole.

• 7:21Speaker 01

  Hmm.

• 7:22Speaker 02

  And me and Blake did just look at each other and were like, what the fuck are we doing?

• 7:26Speaker 01

  Hmm.

• 7:27Speaker 02

  What is this? I remember going, I remember genuinely having like really ups and downs during that first film. That first film was just as terrifying as it was to make as it was fun.

• 7:40Speaker 01

  Hmm.

• 7:41Speaker 02

  And I think, I think a lot of people have forgotten, um, what a risk it was for us to do that film, because nobody had made a film off the back of a sitcom.

• 7:54Speaker 01

  It was almost a bit, it was almost a bit of a joke and how when it probably won't work.

• 7:59Speaker 02

  Yeah. That was it, that was it. It was like.

• 8:00Speaker 01

  The only show that had done it at that time, which I kept bringing up in interviews.

• 8:05Speaker 02

  Go on.

• 8:05Speaker 01

  Was Sex and the City, because it was a point of comparison.

• 8:08Speaker 02

  Right.

• 8:09Speaker 01

  And I, I liked Sex and the City. I'd seen all the episodes.

• 8:12Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 8:13Speaker 01

  And, um, it just did seem, you know, there were four of them, four mates. And it seemed like a

• 8:20Speaker 02

  One of them's a bit of a pervert.

• 8:22Speaker 01

  One's a bit, one's a bit pervy.

• 8:23Speaker 02

  One's a bit of a nerd.

• 8:25Speaker 01

  Has one got glasses? One has got glasses.

• 8:27Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 8:28Speaker 01

  Miranda's probably got glasses, hasn't she? She's a

• 8:29Speaker 02

  Who's Miranda?

• 8:30Speaker 01

  The lawyer one. She'd have glasses.

• 8:32Speaker 02

  Do you know what? I've never watched any Sex, Sex.

• 8:34Speaker 01

  It was

• 8:35Speaker 02

  In the City? Sex.

• 8:37Speaker 01

  Sex and Sex and the City.

• 8:39Speaker 02

  Maybe she thinks it's Sex and the City. What is it? That's a peak show, isn't it?

• 8:44Speaker 03

  And she did think it was Sex and the City.

• 8:47Speaker 01

  Um, but that was the only one. And I kept saying, I kept bringing, so the interviews about the first Inbetweeners film were people that we were talking to trying to bring up on the buses.

• 8:59Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 8:59Speaker 01

  And me countering with

• 9:01Speaker 02

  Sex.

• 9:02Speaker 01

  Sex and the City.

• 9:02Speaker 02

  Sex and the City.

• 9:03Speaker 03

  Oh wait, can we actually cast you guys as Sex and the City? Cause I'd like to see that thought.

• 9:08Speaker 02

  Yeah, we'll do.

• 9:09Speaker 01

  Well.

• 9:10Speaker 02

  We'll do a script reader of that, I'm sure.

• 9:12Speaker 01

  But I mean, also it's got, it's got the voiceover, of course. So you've got Carrie, I suppose that's Will, really.

• 9:18Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 9:18Speaker 01

  I mean, you'd be Samantha, you know, the one with the, you know, the sassiest one, Jake's sassy, but

• 9:25Speaker 02

  Sassy.

• 9:27Speaker 01

  But the one, the one with the, with the closest proximity to carnal affairs.

• 9:32Speaker 02

  Right.

• 9:32Speaker 01

  Right? Oh, who's left?

• 9:35Speaker 03

  You've got Charlotte and Miranda.

• 9:38Speaker 01

  I suppose I'm Miranda.

• 9:40Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 9:41Speaker 01

  And then

• 9:42Speaker 02

  That's the lawyer you said.

• 9:43Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 9:43Speaker 02

  Yeah, Neil was not a lawyer.

• 9:44Speaker 01

  You know, it's more that Neil can't be Miranda than that, than that Simon's, it doesn't, I tell you what, it doesn't quite work. It doesn't quite work, the comparison of the Inbetweeners to four sort of get up and go professional ladies in 90s New York.

• 10:00Speaker 02

  But

• 10:01Speaker 01

  Doesn't quite work as a comparison.

• 10:02Speaker 02

  But to give us a little bit of credit, cause I know we, I, you know, we certainly don't give each other credit, especially for something like the Inbetweeners.

• 10:11Speaker 01

  Never given a

• 10:12Speaker 02

  Fucking nonsense.

• 10:13Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 10:13Speaker 02

  Um, but I genuinely think without that film, without us making the Inbetweeners movie, you wouldn't have had Alpha Pappa. Um, you wouldn't have had Do you know what? That's the best example.

• 10:25Speaker 01

  That's right.

• 10:26Speaker 02

  You wouldn't have had the Keith Lemon movie.

• 10:28Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 10:29Speaker 02

  I don't know if I want to be blamed for that, to be honest.

• 10:32Speaker 01

  Without us doing our film, our TV show, quite a lot of, quite bad films.

• 10:38Speaker 02

  Wouldn't have been made. So you're welcome.

• 10:41Speaker 01

  No one's ever thanked us for that.

• 10:42Speaker 02

  No, never had one. Never had one. Thank you at all.

• 10:45Speaker 01

  So there goes the in-betweeners. Must remember to thank them.

• 10:50Speaker 02

  We don't do it. We don't do it for that, do we?

• 10:52Speaker 01

  I don't do it for that. I didn't, my, I don't do my career because I want to be thanked for the Keith Lemon movie.

• 10:56Speaker 02

  Absolutely not.

• 10:57Speaker 01

  And, yeah.

• 11:00Speaker 02

  I never saw the Keith Lemon movie, to be honest with you. Did you see it? Lily May?

• 11:05Speaker 03

  No, it's not crossed my desk.

• 11:07Speaker 01

  Hmm.

• 11:07Speaker 02

  Lily May really likes comedy.

• 11:12Speaker 02

  Bean worked, of course, yeah.

• 11:14Speaker 01

  Bean, yeah.

• 11:15Speaker 02

  Completely forgot about Bean. That's a great film. That first film is incredible.

• 11:21Speaker 01

  Bean.

• 11:21Speaker 02

  Um.

• 11:22Speaker 01

  Bean seemed to me that it worked because it, it seemed that the, it felt, Mr Bean always felt more like a sketch show than a sitcom, which I think is, so it felt like these are the preliminary building blocks for something bigger anyway. It felt like you kind of go sketch show, sitcom, film, like, and I think, whereas with, I think with sitcoms, you do have an arc of sorts. It's just, it's a different arc to the one that you would get in a film. Whereas if you, so Bean felt like a more natural move to, to film.

• 11:58Speaker 02

  Keep talking. Keep going.

• 12:00Speaker 01

  Uh, Mr Bean, uh, played by Ryan Atkinson.

• 12:04Speaker 02

  Directed by Mel Smith.

• 12:05Speaker 01

  Directed by Mel Smith.

• 12:06Speaker 02

  The first Bean film.

• 12:08Speaker 01

  Mm hmm.

• 12:10Speaker 02

  And I just remember it had the guy from, um, Ghostbusters two in it.

• 12:15Speaker 02

  I think he was in, um, what's that, uh, drama, that American drama, nineties drama? It was quite big. It was about like a lawyer that was just sort of having sex and stuff. I don't know. I never watched it.

• 12:30Speaker 01

  Ally McBeal.

• 12:31Speaker 02

  Ally McBeal, that's it. I think he was in that.

• 12:33Speaker 01

  I miss those shows that sort of didn't have a hook. You know a show that I really think should, I mean, it has, just because it has been put back on iPlayer recently, but This Life?

• 12:44Speaker 02

  Right.

• 12:44Speaker 01

  It was just sort of about some people.

• 12:46Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 12:47Speaker 01

  I feel like everything's very kind of.

• 12:47Speaker 02

  That was Andrew Lincoln.

• 12:49Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 12:50Speaker 02

  Yeah. I watched it.

• 12:52Speaker 01

  Everything feels very kind of concepty now. It's like, I just would like to, Ally McBeal, it's like, what's that person called Ally McBeal? What do you want to tell you? That's a, that's a woman's name.

• 13:01Speaker 02

  She's called Ally McBeal. The show's called Ally McBeal.

• 13:03Speaker 01

  And it's about Ally McBeal. Fuck you.

• 13:05Speaker 02

  Evil, evil, watch it or don't.

• 13:06Speaker 01

  Exactly. But I liked that. It was just like, well, you know, we'll make it, we'll make it. I assume it was interesting. Should have been.

• 13:13Speaker 02

  I think it was quite a big show. I'm watching, uh.

• 13:15Speaker 01

  Christopher Flockhart.

• 13:16Speaker 02

  I'm watching E R, E R at the moment.

• 13:19Speaker 01

  That's a long way back.

• 13:21Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 13:23Speaker 01

  You're trying to sort of.

• 13:24Speaker 02

  It's just quite good.

• 13:25Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 13:25Speaker 02

  There's some great characters in it. Some brilliant drama, some brilliant stories. Uh, like a really good ensemble. It's almost like a soap, but, uh, but more of a sort of, uh, aesthetically higher looking sort of soap.

• 13:42Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 13:42Speaker 02

  Um, I was about to say, do you know what the interesting thing about E R is?

• 13:47Speaker 01

  I think, well, I think, I think that George Clooney could really go on and.

• 13:51Speaker 02

  But then I thought, um, then I thought about what I was about to say and it's not interesting. Um, but it was, um, it was shot, it was produced by, here you go. It was produced by Steven Spielberg to begin with.

• 14:01Speaker 01

  Uh, I tell you what, my favorite sort of fact is the fact about who people who've produced things.

• 14:05Speaker 02

  Yeah. And it's, uh, it's, um, created by Michael Crichton.

• 14:11Speaker 01

  That actually is quite interesting, Jurassic Park.

• 14:13Speaker 02

  Yes, and um, and it was originally shot like a film. You okay?

• 14:21Speaker 01

  You were used to over there.

• 14:23Speaker 02

  They shot, um, they shot it like a, they shot it like a film, so they shot it widescreen. On proper film and stuff like that. So obviously it was like that, what do they call it, four by three or something back in the nineties? So if you watch it now, it's all on Netflix now, E R, if you're interested, um, but it's, it fills up your whole screen.

• 14:44Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 14:44Speaker 02

  Cause the original, um.

• 14:47Speaker 01

  That is interesting. I think.

• 14:48Speaker 02

  I don't think it is interesting. No, and I knew it wasn't interesting. I shouldn't have started that sentence with, here's an interesting thing about it, yeah.

• 14:55Speaker 01

  Spielberg had enough of a kind of house style that you could tell it was a Spielberg production when you watch something.

• 15:00Speaker 02

  Well, it was the TV.

• 15:01Speaker 01

  Even when it was television.

• 15:02Speaker 02

  It was the TV arm of his, of his production company sort of thing.

• 15:06Speaker 01

  Is it just that he did that? I, I always thought I had this kind of really good read on what was Spielberg, like what was that, I think that's probably Spielberg. But is it just because he had had the, the, the four by three or whatever it was?

• 15:15Speaker 02

  The sixteen by nine.

• 15:17Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 15:18Speaker 02

  Um, but it was, um.

• 15:19Speaker 01

  Two by four.

• 15:20Speaker 02

  But it's all like, there's so much stuff that's, uh, just one shot. When I'm watching, this is why Claire hates watching TV shows with me and stuff as well, cause, cause I've got a little idea of how things are made. And I can sort of appreciate what the actors are having to go through at that point. I'm not really watching the drama unfold.

• 15:40Speaker 01

  And you're just trying to.

• 15:40Speaker 02

  I'm watching it going, fucking hell.

• 15:41Speaker 01

  Trying to help Claire appreciate that as well. Does she not appreciate it? What's she doing, just trying to follow the story and stuff?

• 15:46Speaker 02

  I'm watching stuff going, and I'm thinking, fucking hell, this, they've been on this same shot for four minutes and, and, and, and it'll be like different scenes. Because it's so fast paced in the emergency room of the Chicago hospital. So there'll be in like one room and then it'll be like, oh, uh, Dr. Green, we need you over here. And then the camera just follows.

• 16:03Speaker 01

  Oh, God, it's amazing.

• 16:05Speaker 02

  It's a whole other scene that they're doing. And I, I was sitting there going, fucking hell, he's had to learn a lot of lines.

• 16:09Speaker 01

  Yeah, there are bits when I watch that sort of shot where I'm like, yeah, I'd be out now.

• 16:14Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 16:16Speaker 01

  Where you're like, okay, keep going. Yeah, I couldn't be in this.

• 16:19Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 16:20Speaker 01

  So there's a specific point where I'm like, yeah, that's what I'd.

• 16:22Speaker 02

  I'm doing something at the moment where, um, the way it's been shot, the way it's been shot is like.

• 16:29Speaker 02

  Scenes are happening at the same time. So you'll be doing one scene.

• 16:32Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 16:32Speaker 02

  And, and it will be like thirty seconds and it will cut to the other scene and then we'll come back to this scene.

• 16:38Speaker 01

  Fucking hell, what are they doing in the thirty seconds? Did they just sit down or freeze?

• 16:42Speaker 02

  So when I, when I see the, when I see the sides for the day.

• 16:45Speaker 01

  But do they just go on their phone?

• 16:47Speaker 02

  Like, so, so it's basically one scene that's split up into four.

• 16:50Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 16:51Speaker 02

  So I'll just go, oh, here's the first scene of the day. Oh, I've got two lines.

• 16:54Speaker 01

  Oh, God, I hate that. I know exactly what you're talking about.

• 16:56Speaker 02

  And then they go, we're gonna shoot this all as one scene.

• 16:58Speaker 01

  I know, no. Oh, no, I've not learned all the. Of course I haven't learned all of it. I've learned the bare minimum.

• 17:04Speaker 02

  I've not done it all.

• 17:05Speaker 01

  Yeah, I, yeah.

• 17:07Speaker 02

  That's what's going on in my head, but on the outside I go, yeah, yeah, cool.

• 17:10Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, great. Yeah, I'm probably a little bit, uh.

• 17:12Speaker 02

  We'll shoot this all in one scene, shall we?

• 17:14Speaker 01

  I might know the, uh, bit, I know most of it. I'm more at the top.

• 17:19Speaker 02

  I go, I know the gist.

• 17:20Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 17:21Speaker 02

  Let's crack on. The first two lines, no problem at all whatsoever.

• 17:26Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 17:27Speaker 02

  I'll get those down.

• 17:28Speaker 01

  Yeah. Well, that's maybe, uh, that's maybe even just laying those down first. Have you seen Victoria?

• 17:33Speaker 02

  No.

• 17:34Speaker 01

  It's, um.

• 17:37Speaker 01

  Anyway, if you do see her, just say, all right, I said, I don't know, just, I don't know, just honestly, um, honestly, honestly, man.

• 17:46Speaker 01

  That was a dad joke.

• 17:47Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 17:48Speaker 01

  Do you wanna hear another dad joke I've come up with? Um, do you know who Ottolenghi is? Yotam Ottolenghi. He writes loads of cookbooks.

• 17:55Speaker 02

  No.

• 17:56Speaker 01

  Okay. Well, anyway, I think he should be.

• 17:59Speaker 02

  Is that important to know?

• 18:00Speaker 01

  So what, I, I think he should be called Ottolenghi.

• 18:03Speaker 02

  His books are quite long.

• 18:04Speaker 01

  No, his recipes take longer to cook than you think they're gonna.

• 18:08Speaker 01

  It's one for the, some people will get that. I think it's well known. I think it's a thing. People, the Ottolenghi. I have to say, brilliant chef and like.

• 18:20Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 18:21Speaker 01

  And a good, I've, he's my favourite food person.

• 18:25Speaker 02

  Fine actor.

• 18:26Speaker 01

  A fine actor. He's affectionate.

• 18:28Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 18:29Speaker 01

  He's not my favourite food person, but his recipes do take a lot longer than you think.

• 18:33Speaker 02

  Right.

• 18:33Speaker 01

  And do you wanna know why?

• 18:34Speaker 02

  Cause you're doing them?

• 18:35Speaker 01

  Yeah. It's because a lot of method is hidden in the lists of ingredients. So you think that, that, so you'll just be like.

• 18:46Speaker 01

  And then it'll just be like top with the herbs. But then when you see the list, you see the herbs in the list of ingredients, it's like two tablespoons of thyme leaves removed from that. You know, well, that's that's method. You've buried, you've hidden the method.

• 18:59Speaker 02

  Is this the sort of material that you were using when you and Hannah first started going out?

• 19:03Speaker 01

  No, this is more, um, this is more like my 2021 Edinburgh show.

• 19:06Speaker 02

  Right.

• 19:07Speaker 01

  Um, just sort of stuff that I happened to, this would have been, I, I would have put in,

• 19:13Speaker 01

  like, try and do 15 minutes on the herb stuff.

• 19:17Speaker 02

  Hmm.

• 19:17Speaker 03

  It's good.

• 19:18Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 19:19Speaker 03

  Yeah, I'm liking it.

• 19:19Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah. And what I did do when me and her first started getting out is I did actually take her to a herb garden.

• 19:25Speaker 02

  Oh, I think you've told me this. You told me this on the podcast.

• 19:28Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 19:28Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 19:29Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 19:29Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 19:30Speaker 03

  All your stuff's herb stuff.

• 19:31Speaker 01

  It's all herb stuff, isn't it?

• 19:32Speaker 02

  It was very much, um, I know, a cracking owl sanctuary.

• 19:34Speaker 01

  Yeah. Anyway, Victoria.

• 19:38Speaker 02

  Sorry, I'm so sorry.

• 19:39Speaker 01

  No, no, no, I'm honest, it was.

• 19:41Speaker 02

  Let's get back to Victoria.

• 19:42Speaker 01

  No, I derail myself. Victoria is a film done in one shot. And it's really amazing.

• 19:48Speaker 02

  Right.

• 19:49Speaker 01

  And it's all on the course of a night out in Berlin.

• 19:59Speaker 04

  Welcome to 215 Maple Drive. We just put this property on the market.

• 20:04Speaker 05

  Love the crown molding.

• 20:06Speaker 04

  Oh, wait until you see the walk-in closets and the bathroom tile.

• 20:10Speaker 05

  Does it have Verizon FiOS? You know, 100% fiber internet.

• 20:13Speaker 04

  No FiOS, but it looks like it's got cable. Let's check out the kitchen.

• 20:17Speaker 05

  No FiOS? Yeah. No, thank you.

• 20:20Speaker 04

  Don't you want to see the rest? Okay. Bye-bye.

• 20:23Speaker 06

  Get Verizon FiOS because when you're moving, it's 100% or nothing.

• 20:30Speaker 00

  I'm Claire Buckley and this Halloween on my podcast, Pretty Scary, we are going to cover the stories that keep you up at night. Real crimes, ghosts and aliens. Plus, the scariest movies to watch this spooky season with the lights off. So, as the nights draw in, the pumpkins are carved and somewhere in the dark, something is scratching at the window. It's probably just the cat, right? Get the candles lit in search for Pretty Scary with Claire Buckley.

• 21:09Speaker 02

  I'm a very unique looking person.

• 21:11Speaker 01

  Do you ever get muddled with me?

• 21:13Speaker 02

  No. I tell you, you do look like, we just, we spoke about, you said it just then, the bloke from Suits.

• 21:20Speaker 01

  I do get that, yeah. I do get that. I've never really seen Suits, but it's got Meghan Markle in it, hasn't it?

• 21:29Speaker 02

  Old Marky.

• 21:30Speaker 01

  Markle's in it.

• 21:31Speaker 02

  Marky Mark. Not that Mark, not that Marky Mark. Meghan Marky Mark.

• 21:38Speaker 02

  Meghan Mark or Marky Mark?

• 21:40Speaker 01

  Mark Bosnic.

• 21:41Speaker 02

  She, Veduka, she would have loved, she would have loved being on a set with us.

• 21:49Speaker 01

  Yeah, we're right up her street.

• 21:50Speaker 02

  Oh, absolutely.

• 21:51Speaker 01

  I can tell that that kind of refined, very sort of hypersensitive kind of California mindset.

• 21:59Speaker 02

  Yeah, would have gone down really well.

• 22:02Speaker 01

  She would have loved us.

• 22:02Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 22:03Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 22:05Speaker 02

  Do you remember one time, well, I say do you remember, of course you do. This is one of the things that I'd like to talk, like, when, you know, when you, when people go, "Can you tell us any funny stories from set?" You know, when we, after we'd done the in-betweeners, like, PR people were like, "If you've got any funny stories from set?" And I'm like, "We've loads of funny stories, but they don't make any fucking sense. Not gonna be able to, I'm not gonna be able to..."

• 22:28Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 22:28Speaker 02

  It's again.

• 22:30Speaker 01

  Or they're a bit weird.

• 22:32Speaker 02

  Oh, they're incredibly weird. Again, it's like, watch this video, it's really funny. Whereas if we were to say a funny story, you know, like the, one of the times we were making the second in-betweeners film, we kept getting told off saying, "Stop laughing, stop mucking about", and then you said, "Don't hire a tiger",

• 22:55Speaker 02

  "And complain when he roar."

• 23:00Speaker 01

  Yeah, that is, that is true. That was my best work on that film.

• 23:04Speaker 02

  And then we spent, and then we spent the next hour laughing at that.

• 23:09Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 23:09Speaker 02

  You guys have got to stop mucking about. Come on, we've got to do a film. You're just mucking about. And then Joe just went, and then there was like, there was like two seconds of silence. And then Joe just went, "Don't hire a tiger and complain when he roar."

• 23:26Speaker 02

  And I don't know why you said when he roar.

• 23:27Speaker 01

  Well, I suppose I was, yeah.

• 23:32Speaker 01

  I don't know, really. No.

• 23:35Speaker 02

  But that's not funny to anyone else, really, is it?

• 23:37Speaker 01

  Well, I, I, there was stuff that I thought other people would find funny.

• 23:43Speaker 07

  Favorite story then that I've heard you tell is about your love for birds.

• 23:49Speaker 02

  And the seagull thing. First of all, um, it was, uh, the scene where a seagull's attacking Simon Bird for his chips.

• 23:57Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 23:58Speaker 02

  And we got a, we got a.

• 23:59Speaker 01

  There's a lot of animal stuff in it, isn't there? Yeah.

• 24:01Speaker 02

  And we got a seagull in. It was a special seagull, was it?

• 24:05Speaker 01

  They always say it's a special animal. And then when it gets on set, you're like, it's just an animal.

• 24:08Speaker 02

  The thing with the seagull thing.

• 24:10Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 24:10Speaker 02

  Was.

• 24:11Speaker 01

  Go on.

• 24:12Speaker 02

  We were, we were doing the read through and it was like, oh, seagull attacks.

• 24:16Speaker 01

  It was great in the read through.

• 24:17Speaker 02

  A seagull, a seagull attacks Simon Bird. What was his name in the show? Will?

• 24:22Speaker 01

  Will.

• 24:23Speaker 02

  A seagull attacks Will. And, um, and I just said, oh, um, I was, and they were like, oh, we're getting a proper seagull in. And I was like, oh, is it, you know, those seagulls with the little, with the little red lips? All right. If you look at seagulls and this is just.

• 24:39Speaker 01

  Doesn't matter.

• 24:40Speaker 02

  This is just a memory that I had. When, I remember when I was being, when I was at school, when I was supposed to be paying attention to whatever the teacher was saying. I was looking, we had a load of seagulls at our school for some reason. We weren't near the sea.

• 24:51Speaker 01

  Well, you can't, I mean, you, you can't be expected to concentrate on a class if there's a few seagulls outside the window.

• 24:55Speaker 02

  But there was, there was all seagulls outside. And I was looking at.

• 24:58Speaker 01

  I know.

• 24:58Speaker 02

  And this seagull came right to the window and I was like, fucking hell, they're really big, aren't they? And then, uh, and then I looked at their beaks and I was like, oh, look, they've got, they look like they've got lipstick on. And I was just trying to make a joke as if to say, oh, don't seagulls look like they've got lipstick on? But I don't know why I said little red lips. I did say little red lips. I don't know why I said that. That was where I went wrong.

• 25:18Speaker 03

  It sounds like Gok Wan.

• 25:20Speaker 02

  Right. And the problem is when, when guys are together, no one can say anything without everyone jumping on it, right? So I said, I accidentally said little red lips.

• 25:31Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 25:31Speaker 02

  I, I, in hindsight, I should have chosen a different word.

• 25:34Speaker 01

  But it wasn't just that, it was, it was more the, the kind of, um, the way, like, the, the way your, sort of your eyes lit up when you.

• 25:42Speaker 02

  I don't know if they lit up. This is all conjecture. And then it turned into, oh, what, do you fancy seagulls? Oh, Buckley, fancy seagulls. Buckley, fancy seagulls. And then for some reason, I went bright red.

• 25:56Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 25:56Speaker 02

  I was really, really embarrassed and it looked like I did fancy seagulls.

• 26:00Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 26:02Speaker 02

  And that was what was really bad. And then, um, then what made things even worse was after that had all happened. And then that joke has gone on for years because jokes never die with a male friend group. They go on for years and years and years. I think it was literally like a year or two after that. I think we were making the film or another series or something. And I was, uh, you know, those days where it's like, oh, all come in. But you've all got, uh, at one point or another, you've all got to go and have a costume fitting at, or you've got to go and get your medical done.

• 26:35Speaker 01

  Mm hmm.

• 26:35Speaker 02

  And then I was left in the production office on my own.

• 26:40Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 26:40Speaker 02

  Right? And, um.

• 26:42Speaker 01

  I remember this.

• 26:43Speaker 02

  I was in a, I was in the, I was in a great big office on my own. I was like, oh, I'll just jump on someone's computer and just start looking at the internet or whatever. And what would have been less weird was if I started watching porn and started wanking or something, right? That would have been more normal, but I'd read, I, I picked up a metro on the tube on the way in and they were talking about this, um, bald eagle. And again, I looked at it and it was next to a bloke and I was like, fucking hell, they're massive. I don't know what it is about birds being big in, uh, around me as well, really impresses me. You don't expect birds to be as big as they are, but some, the, some of these birds are really big and it's really interesting, right?

• 27:21Speaker 01

  Yeah, it is interesting that birds are big sometimes.

• 27:24Speaker 02

  So people came back into the office and was like, oh, Buckley, what are you looking at? And I was like, oh, nothing, don't worry. And I was like Wikipeding, like bald eagles.

• 27:33Speaker 01

  Yeah, we, yeah.

• 27:35Speaker 02

  So it was just like, Buckley, you got a really weird thing.

• 27:38Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 27:40Speaker 01

  That is true. It was like, it was.

• 27:44Speaker 01

  It was like you just saw the image of like the wings.

• 27:46Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 27:47Speaker 01

  Before it went blank.

• 27:48Speaker 02

  Yeah, I was like, oh, nothing.

• 27:52Speaker 01

  Yeah. It was.

• 27:55Speaker 02

  I don't, I don't have a, I don't have a bird fetish.

• 27:57Speaker 01

  It was unfortunate that those two things happened in, um.

• 28:01Speaker 02

  It was unfortunately happened around you lot.

• 28:04Speaker 01

  Well, I think it's not, you're allowed to take an interest in the natural world.

• 28:09Speaker 02

  I was genuinely interested in, in this bald eagle.

• 28:12Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 28:17Speaker 03

  Do you think that's room into your love affair with birds? Are you still into it?

• 28:21Speaker 02

  I still do like birds.

• 28:23Speaker 01

  Hmm.

• 28:24Speaker 02

  I, a couple of years ago, I bought a special bird feeder.

• 28:27Speaker 03

  I bet you did.

• 28:28Speaker 02

  Um, because the squirrels, I did have a bird feeder, but the squirrels kept eating the food. And I was like, that's not for you. That's for the birds.

• 28:35Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 28:36Speaker 02

  I'm going to end up in one of those paedophile hunter videos. I've come to, I've come to meet a robin or something.

• 28:44Speaker 02

  And they're going to ambush me. They're going to like, um, who are you meeting? I don't know. Just a friend. Just, you know. We've got some of the text exchanges here. You sent, you sent this finch a picture of your penis.

• 29:01Speaker 02

  You kept going on about blue tits. Oh, I don't know. I don't know. I'm going to lose my job.

• 29:10Speaker 02

  My wife's going to find out about this. I don't have a bird fetish. I don't. I just find them interesting.

• 29:17Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 29:18Speaker 02

  In a normal way.

• 29:19Speaker 01

  Yeah. Yeah.

• 29:20Speaker 02

  In a normal way. If you're going to go after, go after Bill Oddie. Don't look at me.

• 29:25Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's true, actually.

• 29:26Speaker 02

  Go through his search history.

• 29:28Speaker 01

  Hmm. Yeah.

• 29:30Speaker 02

  Do you know what I mean? He was probably on some island with some underaged birds at some point.

• 29:37Speaker 01

  Some eggs.

• 29:37Speaker 02

  Bill Oddie, yeah.

• 29:38Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 29:40Speaker 02

  He was probably feeding little chicks.

• 29:42Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 29:42Speaker 02

  Vomiting in their mouths.

• 29:44Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 29:44Speaker 02

  Cause he gets off on it.

• 29:46Speaker 01

  Yeah. Yeah.

• 29:48Speaker 02

  Is Bill Oddie still alive?

• 29:52Speaker 02

  If he is, that probably can't go in.

• 29:56Speaker 03

  I think it's funny. Um, no, he's still alive.

• 29:59Speaker 02

  He's still alive.

• 30:00Speaker 03

  Still going.

• 30:01Speaker 02

  Be oddy.

• 30:02Speaker 01

  Still, still active.

• 30:03Speaker 02

  Be oddy. This is, this is Bill Oddy. That's not a rude name. I just thought it was body. What's rude about a body? Tits.

• 30:18Speaker 02

  Anyway, welcome to Joe and James backed up.

• 30:21Speaker 01

  Hi.

• 30:22Speaker 02

  Um, this is the podcast where each week we'll be bringing facts to one another that we deem interesting and our policy is the more interesting, the more true it is. We'll also dig into the weird things that you'd like to think are true, but don't want to research in a segment we're calling fact check. So we want you to send in our facts, email us, hello at joe and james pod.com, WhatsApp us on O seven eight two two zero three four three three zero. Follow us on our socials at joe and james pod and you can also watch all our episodes in full on YouTube. Just search for Joe and James. Joe and James backed up.

• 30:54Speaker 03

  They're also available on Apple podcasts to watch video in full now.

• 30:57Speaker 02

  You can watch video full on Apple podcasts?

• 30:59Speaker 01

  Yes, I know that because I've seen it on my Apple podcasts.

• 31:05Speaker 03

  Thanks, Joe.

• 31:06Speaker 02

  Thanks. Let's get backed up.

• 31:13Speaker 01

  Right. So now a few weeks ago, I asked for you to send in basically puns that you didn't.

• 31:24Speaker 02

  Didn't realise they were puns.

• 31:25Speaker 01

  Were puns.

• 31:26Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 31:28Speaker 01

  Uh, and I mean, I have just, actually I was thinking about the, the podcast the other day and, and I realised that one of our world up.

• 31:40Speaker 01

  It had, it had a pun believable in it. It had one of the, the puns you don't realise are puns. And it was obviously Obi two, like is it Obi one, can Obi, Obi two, Obi two can Obi?

• 31:50Speaker 02

  Yeah, but I think you get that, that, that pun straight away.

• 31:53Speaker 01

  No, no, but I didn't. So that's what, so what I'm saying is I didn't, so that I was late to the party on that one. I just thought it was like, oh, okay. I would be like, if you were Daniel Craig's brother, you'd be like, oh, Bond two.

• 32:05Speaker 02

  Right, double O eight.

• 32:07Speaker 01

  Well, that, you see, that'd be clever.

• 32:08Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 32:08Speaker 01

  But I just thought it was like, or, or, I mean, yeah, like, um, if you're Harrison Ford's brother, you'd be like Indiana Jones two. And so I just thought it was that. And I think that's why I was less interested in it. In fact.

• 32:20Speaker 02

  The Temple of Doom.

• 32:22Speaker 01

  That's why I was less interested in the Temple of Doom.

• 32:23Speaker 02

  Would Harrison Ford's brother be called The Temple, do you reckon?

• 32:28Speaker 01

  Um.

• 32:30Speaker 02

  I don't know. I've just thought of one though.

• 32:31Speaker 01

  And then the third, the third brother would be called The Last Crusade.

• 32:34Speaker 02

  Yeah. I've just thought of one. Um.

• 32:38Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 32:39Speaker 02

  Mystique, the band is spelt. How do you spell Mystique normally? Is it got one S? Cause I think the band has, I think the band has got two S's in it. So it's sort of like Miss, they're girls, mysterious.

• 32:58Speaker 01

  Ah, okay. Yeah.

• 33:01Speaker 02

  Is that the sort of thing?

• 33:02Speaker 01

  That's quite good. That has helped. I think, I say, the OB two thing.

• 33:06Speaker 02

  Also, I might be wrong about it all.

• 33:08Speaker 01

  The OB two thing maybe, maybe just makes me think that I don't notice when things are jokes and.

• 33:14Speaker 02

  That's fine.

• 33:15Speaker 01

  But that's, that's, you know, that's fine.

• 33:17Speaker 02

  Yeah. It's not, it's not your job as the.

• 33:21Speaker 01

  It's not my job to get.

• 33:22Speaker 02

  Receiver.

• 33:24Speaker 01

  Look.

• 33:24Speaker 02

  To get everything, I suppose.

• 33:27Speaker 01

  No, and it's not. I've never seen any money for any of this work that I'm doing. Um, so it's called Unbelievable anyway, the, the sort of the section.

• 33:38Speaker 02

  It's a segment.

• 33:39Speaker 01

  Things you didn't realise are puns. I think it's pretty strong.

• 33:42Speaker 02

  We've got a jingle, haven't we?

• 33:44Speaker 01

  I think the band Boys' Own is a pun on Boys' Own.

• 33:48Speaker 02

  Of course it is.

• 33:49Speaker 01

  Match of the day is a pun on catch of the day.

• 33:52Speaker 02

  Fuck you.

• 33:53Speaker 01

  I didn't realise that Girls Allowed was a pun for a while, as in girls are allowed in this club too. And people say, you know, there's no new land left to discover. Well, in the mind there is, is, is.

• 34:05Speaker 07

  Unbelievable, Jeff.

• 34:07Speaker 02

  So we've got a couple of unbelievable's from, uh, from some people.

• 34:12Speaker 01

  Yeah. Uh, so this one is Mark on the Fact Up form, which, I mean, I also approve of. I like, I like people using the form.

• 34:24Speaker 02

  Right.

• 34:25Speaker 01

  He says, I have something for unbelievable that I've literally just realised at age 40. Is the song Californication?

• 34:32Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 34:33Speaker 01

  By.

• 34:34Speaker 02

  Red Hot Chili Peppers.

• 34:35Speaker 01

  He's actually abbreviated, it's RHCP.

• 34:38Speaker 02

  A lot of people do. Who can be bothered to type Red Hot Chili Peppers every time?

• 34:43Speaker 01

  I wouldn't know what that was unless I had.

• 34:47Speaker 01

  Californication, I mean, that's right. I mean, in this context, it's fine. I'm not sure it's fine. Is a pun of California and fornication, i.e. shagging.

• 34:57Speaker 02

  He's put that down, yeah.

• 34:58Speaker 01

  Austin Powers.

• 34:59Speaker 02

  What do you guys think?

• 35:01Speaker 01

  What do you guys think?

• 35:02Speaker 02

  No, I think Californication is a thing that's in.

• 35:08Speaker 02

  I'm gonna say a word now, but I don't one hundred percent know what it means. Lexicon of, um.

• 35:15Speaker 01

  Yeah, the lexicon.

• 35:16Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's the sort of, um. Because California is where Hollywood is. And it's the sort of, it's almost another word for Americanisation. I think it's, I think because Americans can't say Americanisation, they'll say Californication.

• 35:32Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 35:33Speaker 02

  If something's a bit too Hollywood and a bit too sort of dramatic and bizarre and, oh, everyone's uh, having plastic surgery and, and everyone's got, um, drug problems and stuff and it's like, oh, that's that's Hollywoodised, that's Californication. I think that, that's, and I think that's what the song is about. I can't remember the song off the top of my head. But I think the lyrics are very much sort of, um.

• 35:57Speaker 01

  Space, space may be the final frontier, but it's made in a Hollywood basement.

• 36:01Speaker 02

  That's it, yeah.

• 36:03Speaker 01

  So.

• 36:06Speaker 02

  Can I do my impression of every Red Hot Chili Peppers song?

• 36:09Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 36:10Speaker 02

  And this is gonna really, this is rage baiting everyone. But here is every Red Hot Chili Peppers song.

• 36:37Speaker 01

  That's, I mean, I have to say, it's.

• 36:39Speaker 02

  And I don't hate Red Hot Chili Peppers, by the way. I think their, by the way, album's brilliant, is well good, really, really good.

• 36:48Speaker 01

  Yeah, I think.

• 36:50Speaker 01

  Most, you know, popular music has tropes that it kind of.

• 36:55Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 36:57Speaker 01

  Deploys.

• 36:58Speaker 02

  I can objectively understand why people like Red Hot Chili Peppers, by the way. I'm not taking the piss out of them. I know people get very passionate about music. I'm one of those people. And it's awful when you hear someone take the piss out of a band that you like. I don't know why. It really annoys me.

• 37:14Speaker 01

  Almost every band that I grew up listening to is, I think, seen as an unfortunate choice by people. I'm not sure. I don't have cool taste in music.

• 37:23Speaker 02

  I don't know. I think in retrospect, I think, um, I think you, your bands are like, oh. Like, very much like, oh, he must like music then, if he likes those. He must really like music.

• 37:38Speaker 01

  That's not actually.

• 37:39Speaker 02

  He must really like music if he can put up with those bands.

• 37:43Speaker 01

  That's not actually true, though. They're just bands that happen to be around a very, very specific.

• 37:48Speaker 02

  Yeah, but there's, there's loads more, like, because I like the same. My bands that I really like are in the same timeframe as the bands that you like.

• 38:00Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 38:00Speaker 02

  But I've gone with the obvious choices and you've gone for a bit more niche.

• 38:05Speaker 01

  I think in my own way, I went for the obvious choices.

• 38:08Speaker 02

  Not, well, you think so, but not, no, I mean, Long Pigs.

• 38:12Speaker 01

  Long Pigs.

• 38:12Speaker 02

  I've never met anyone else that is a big Long Pigs fan.

• 38:16Speaker 01

  Some of our listeners will like Long. The Sun is Often Out is a great album and.

• 38:21Speaker 02

  Neil Hammond. You love Neil Hammond, don't you?

• 38:23Speaker 01

  Neil, Neil Hannan.

• 38:25Speaker 02

  Neil Hannan, sorry.

• 38:26Speaker 01

  Yeah, the kind of, he's.

• 38:27Speaker 02

  Richard Hammond's.

• 38:28Speaker 01

  He's the.

• 38:30Speaker 02

  Brother. Neil Hammond created the.

• 38:33Speaker 01

  Hamster two. Yeah.

• 38:36Speaker 02

  The gerbil.

• 38:38Speaker 01

  Yeah, um, oh, is it gerbil? Is it gerbil?

• 38:42Speaker 02

  Well, there we go. Hamster.

• 38:43Speaker 01

  Oh, gerbil, I see. Sorry. He's called Hamster, isn't he?

• 38:45Speaker 02

  Yeah, but that's unbelievable.

• 38:46Speaker 01

  Again, I didn't really realise that either.

• 38:48Speaker 02

  He's Hammond, Richard Hammond. He's small like a hamster.

• 38:51Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 38:52Speaker 02

  The hamster.

• 38:54Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 38:55Speaker 03

  Do you wanna go to the next, um?

• 38:57Speaker 01

  Well, I wanna, I, I, I'm gonna spend a moment once. I'm not absolute.

• 39:01Speaker 02

  Don't rush the man. We're trying to, we're trying to work out, um, whether Californication is a pun.

• 39:07Speaker 01

  I wonder if it's maybe, if it meant sex in California, then I would say, yes, it's an intentional pun.

• 39:18Speaker 02

  But he doesn't sing about that sort of stuff, does he?

• 39:20Speaker 01

  If the lyrics to the song were like.

• 39:24Speaker 02

  The lyrics of the song, if I remember rightly, are, are very much.

• 39:26Speaker 01

  Do you wanna come round my house for some Californication? Cause I live in California and you work out the rest. Then I would say, yes. But I think in this case, it's just that it kind of, it trips off the tongue. And I think it's an, I think it's an unintentional pun believable. An extra layer of meaning has been created inadvertently, but, um, it doesn't mean that it doesn't.

• 39:51Speaker 02

  I think this is.

• 39:51Speaker 01

  Obviously enrich the meaning of the word.

• 39:53Speaker 02

  I think this is a projected pun.

• 39:55Speaker 01

  It's a projected pun. I think that's exactly right.

• 39:58Speaker 02

  All right, next.

• 39:59Speaker 01

  But I still like it.

• 40:00Speaker 02

  We've got one from Tim. Oh, I knew this one.

• 40:02Speaker 01

  Unbelievable. Oh, okay. I did actually know this one. Well, no, I knew Flow Rider.

• 40:06Speaker 02

  I knew them both.

• 40:07Speaker 01

  And I didn't know Neo.

• 40:10Speaker 03

  Do you wanna talk through them both?

• 40:11Speaker 01

  Okay, so Flow Rider.

• 40:14Speaker 02

  Why has the listener not read what we've got in front of us already? Imagine that. Imagine this was live. Imagine this was live television. And we're just like, let me read it. No, no, that's not a pun.

• 40:28Speaker 03

  Yeah. I'll go around handing out papers to every, every listener, yeah.

• 40:30Speaker 01

  Or if somebody, if a newsreader, it was just somebody silently reading a newspaper.

• 40:36Speaker 02

  And they just went, oh dear.

• 40:37Speaker 01

  Yeah, you just saw them, you just saw them, you just saw them raise their eyebrows.

• 40:44Speaker 02

  Oh, that's not good.

• 40:46Speaker 01

  Well, anyway, it is, it is Tim, um, Tim from YouTube is the comments presumably.

• 40:51Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 40:52Speaker 01

  Obviously, I don't know, he doesn't, he do, he works, he works at YouTube?

• 40:55Speaker 02

  Loads of way to get in touch with us. You can comment on the YouTube.

• 40:58Speaker 01

  Comment.

• 40:58Speaker 02

  Comments on Spotify. You can email, text, WhatsApp.

• 41:03Speaker 01

  Give it to a carrier pigeon. That's the best way to reach James. Pop it in, little.

• 41:09Speaker 02

  I wouldn't mind a little carrier pigeon.

• 41:10Speaker 01

  Little carrier pigeon, especially if it's.

• 41:11Speaker 02

  Well, if it's a wood pigeon, that's fine. I don't want any of your filthy sort of.

• 41:16Speaker 01

  Yeah, no.

• 41:18Speaker 02

  Gutter, city pigeons.

• 41:20Speaker 01

  Like.

• 41:20Speaker 03

  Quite fussy about your birds, aren't you?

• 41:22Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 41:22Speaker 01

  Yeah, so like.

• 41:23Speaker 02

  Listen, I've got high standards when it comes to birds.

• 41:26Speaker 01

  Yeah. Um, so, yeah.

• 41:31Speaker 01

  Give it.

• 41:31Speaker 02

  No, we do need to read it.

• 41:33Speaker 03

  Yeah, you do. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 41:35Speaker 01

  Um, so, uh, Tim from the YouTube comments is, suggestions are Flo Rida, yeah. I mean, I, I did actually know that one. So it's, um, so, so Flo Rida is an artist, is obviously, it's a humble, live on Florida.

• 41:51Speaker 02

  Mm hmm.

• 41:52Speaker 03

  Stuff.

• 41:52Speaker 01

  And then Neo, I, I'm gonna say, I don't know who that is.

• 41:57Speaker 02

  Neo. I do know who it is, but I couldn't tell you one of his songs.

• 42:02Speaker 01

  And that is.

• 42:03Speaker 03

  Closer. Do you remember Closer?

• 42:04Speaker 02

  Get closer.

• 42:06Speaker 01

  And is that?

• 42:07Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 42:07Speaker 01

  I'm not sure that isn't definitely a humble, live on New York.

• 42:11Speaker 02

  Well, I've heard the same thing. And if we're gonna follow the rules of the podcast, then that is, it is true.

• 42:19Speaker 01

  Because you, yeah, we've heard it's true.

• 42:20Speaker 02

  I've heard the same thing. But I don't, I've got to be honest, I don't have much respect for those.

• 42:25Speaker 01

  I don't have, I have to say, I don't have respect for Flo Rida because it's not obvious that you pronounce it differently.

• 42:30Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 42:30Speaker 01

  You, you haven't changed the spelling. So you're just like, well, so, so you.

• 42:33Speaker 02

  He's put a gap, he's put a space between.

• 42:35Speaker 01

  That's just Flo Rida.

• 42:37Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 42:37Speaker 01

  What's your name? Flo Rida.

• 42:39Speaker 02

  Do you wanna hear my?

• 42:40Speaker 01

  Change the spelling, then maybe I'll listen to some of your music.

• 42:44Speaker 02

  You know when, um, you know.

• 42:46Speaker 01

  Spelling first, music second.

• 42:48Speaker 02

  You know when your dad or your granddad would watch the TV and someone would come on the television and he would just have an irrational, oh, I'm not this person.

• 42:58Speaker 02

  I've got that and, uh. Again, not really done anything offensive, or I've never met them personally. But there's someone that I've just got it out for, for no reason at all whatsoever.

• 43:10Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 43:11Speaker 02

  Um, Will I Am.

• 43:13Speaker 01

  Just because it's an annoying name.

• 43:15Speaker 02

  Right. His name's William. He's put some gaps.

• 43:18Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 43:18Speaker 02

  And he's Will I Am. And, um, and I just, that just annoys the fuck out of me.

• 43:25Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah. I.

• 43:28Speaker 02

  I'm like, it's fine if you're an 11 year old boy.

• 43:31Speaker 01

  Yeah, I, I'm, yeah, I think, I sometimes felt that the implication of him doing that was that it was supposed to like, literally blow your mind. I'm like, fucking hell.

• 43:43Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 43:44Speaker 01

  What's happening to language?

• 43:46Speaker 02

  This is, this is.

• 43:47Speaker 01

  It's coming apart.

• 43:48Speaker 02

  This is the definite, this is what I get from Will I Am, is that he constantly thinks that he's pushing some kind of boundary and he's fucking with you. But it's so route one.

• 44:01Speaker 01

  It is a little bit.

• 44:02Speaker 02

  I remember, do you know that, um, what's that really famous sort of surf song? I think, um, oh no, here we go again. I've got to think of a name that everyone knows who it is. That director that did Kill Bill and all those films, what's his name? Tarantino. Tarantino. So, you know, he uses the, he uses this song, I think, in the Kill Bill films. I might be wrong, but it's that sort of surfers like ding ding ding ding.

• 44:26Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

• 44:28Speaker 02

  Right? So, um, I remember, I don't know how I was watching this. It was like a documentary. It was the, it was, it was on television. This was before like YouTube or that I've watched, it, it watched YouTube or whatever. And it was like, and it was about the Black Eyed Peas. That I think are terrible. I just do. I think they're so bad. They're such a bad band.

• 44:49Speaker 01

  I don't think they're that, I don't.

• 44:51Speaker 02

  Really bad. Their music's all stupid. And, uh, and there was a bit where they were like, yeah, Will I Am was in the studio and he had his headphones on and he was just going, so they couldn't hear what he was listening to. And he was just going, louder. Louder and we were like, he's on to something, he's on to something. And I was like, what? What do you mean he's on to something? He's taken a song from someone else and just shouted the word louder over and over again. Um, the Black Eyed Peas lyrics in all of their songs.

• 45:24Speaker 01

  It does sound a bit like what my daughter does when she's asleep.

• 45:26Speaker 02

  So bad. They're lyrically so poor. They're so stupid, their lyrics. I just, but Will.i.am, I see him come on the television and I turn into 50s dad. I just go, oh God, get him off the television.

• 45:42Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 45:43Speaker 02

  No, get him off. Will.i.am. It's William. Your name's William. Stop trying to make yourself seem more interesting than you actually are.

• 45:56Speaker 02

  It's completely irrational. Never done anything to me.

• 45:58Speaker 01

  No, I know.

• 45:59Speaker 02

  He just made, he just made some songs.

• 46:01Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 46:01Speaker 02

  But I do, I get angry for no reason.

• 46:05Speaker 03

  I love Boom Boom Pow.

• 46:07Speaker 02

  Boom boom.

• 46:11Speaker 03

  My humps?

• 46:12Speaker 02

  They did my humps.

• 46:12Speaker 03

  My humps?

• 46:13Speaker 02

  They also, my lady humps, they also did. I've got a feeling.

• 46:18Speaker 03

  Just can't get enough.

• 46:19Speaker 02

  That tonight's gonna be a good night.

• 46:22Speaker 03

  I got a feeling.

• 46:23Speaker 02

  Tonight's gonna be a good night. Tonight's gonna be a good, good night. Fucking, how long did that take?

• 46:32Speaker 03

  It's good stuff.

• 46:33Speaker 02

  Come on, man.

• 46:33Speaker 03

  It's good stuff.

• 46:34Speaker 02

  And the guy's so rich off the back of that shit.

• 46:39Speaker 01

  That felt like it was a song that you could play at all sorts of like special occasions.

• 46:43Speaker 02

  Well, because it's just like, oh, let's make a song about a good night.

• 46:46Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 46:47Speaker 02

  And that's where they stopped. That's where they.

• 46:49Speaker 03

  Shut up. Do you like shut up?

• 46:50Speaker 02

  Shut up. Just shut up, shut up, shut it up. Yeah, you can't get away from them. You cannot get away from them. They infect, they infect your brain. Just shut it up. Just shut up, shut.

• 47:03Speaker 02

  It's like, well, I wrote this song. You know, when you're talking to someone, you're just like, I just want you to shut up. There's no nuance at all whatsoever.

• 47:11Speaker 02

  Like, you could go, you could spend the rest of your life trying to, you know, uh, um, projecting your own conjecture and stuff into Beatles lyrics and, and Bowie and just going, what does that mean?

• 47:22Speaker 01

  They are quite, they are quite simple, aren't they? They're a bit like the sort of Peppa Pig songs that I listen to all the time where it's like, when George is crying loudly, we say, shut up.

• 47:31Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 47:32Speaker 01

  They're like, yeah, okay, that's fine. Or like, um, uh, there's, there's one that my daughter likes about, like, when you need the potty, you have to shout out potty.

• 47:45Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 47:46Speaker 01

  And it's like, yeah, I mean,

• 47:47Speaker 02

  That is, that is,

• 47:48Speaker 01

  That's it.

• 47:49Speaker 02

  That is a, yeah.

• 47:49Speaker 01

  I get that.

• 47:50Speaker 02

  Black Eyed Peas could have, should be writing songs for CBeebies. That's what they should be doing. They should be writing songs for Teletubbies or something.

• 47:59Speaker 01

  Wait for the green man. When we're at the roadie, press the little button. When the green man comes along, then we can walk.

• 48:07Speaker 02

  That's, that's a Black Eyed Peas song.

• 48:09Speaker 01

  Yeah, like, it's, it's a kind of a thin.

• 48:11Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 48:12Speaker 01

  There's a thinness. But then maybe it's just that, you know, we need stuff that we can hold on to.

• 48:17Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 48:18Speaker 01

  Maybe it is gonna be a good night.

• 48:19Speaker 02

  But, um,

• 48:20Speaker 01

  And maybe that person did need to shut up.

• 48:23Speaker 02

  But just for Tim, for Tim's benefit, sorry, Tim, I went on a real,

• 48:27Speaker 01

  We went on a bit of a rant there.

• 48:28Speaker 02

  Um, but,

• 48:29Speaker 01

  They're both, okay, so Flo,

• 48:30Speaker 02

  But I'm gonna say, I've heard both those things, so they must be true.

• 48:37Speaker 01

  Okay, Neo can be unbelievable, but Flo Rida, I realise it's a pun on Florida already.

• 48:42Speaker 02

  A lot of people don't.

• 48:43Speaker 01

  But the definition of unbelievable is whether I realised.

• 48:46Speaker 02

  Right.

• 48:47Speaker 01

  And,

• 48:47Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 48:48Speaker 02

  That can't be true.

• 48:49Speaker 03

  I didn't think that's why we said, I thought you were asking for other people.

• 48:51Speaker 02

  Yeah, we can't ask for other people.

• 48:53Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 48:54Speaker 02

  To, to, uh, know what you think.

• 48:57Speaker 01

  I just find it really hard to empathise with that.

• 49:01Speaker 02

  Yeah, you, you and who I am, it seems.

• 49:03Speaker 01

  So they're having an experience that I'm not having.

• 49:06Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 49:07Speaker 01

  How's that work then?

• 49:08Speaker 02

  I don't know.

• 49:10Speaker 01

  But they haven't, they haven't got brains, have they?

• 49:11Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's all a simulation anyway. They don't exist, Joe. I don't exist.

• 49:14Speaker 01

  No.

• 49:15Speaker 02

  You're just here on your own, mate.

• 49:18Speaker 02

  When you blink or you leave the room or something like that, I cease to exist. Oh, I shouldn't say that to you, should I?

• 49:25Speaker 01

  That's all right. No, I'm, I'm.

• 49:27Speaker 02

  That's all right. I shouldn't say that to Joe.

• 49:29Speaker 01

  No, no, it's fine. I, I should be brought back into the, the world of, of everyone else. And actually, so Neo, they are, no, they're both unbelievable.

• 49:41Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 49:41Speaker 01

  Right. World up.

• 49:43Speaker 02

  They're pump. Well, hang on a second.

• 49:44Speaker 01

  Okay, yeah.

• 49:45Speaker 02

  Hang on a second. Let's have a little breather, maybe some adverts or something. I don't know. Because we're about to get into, um,

• 49:55Speaker 02

  this competition that's already run too long, as far as I'm concerned. But we've got lots more to do.

• 50:01Speaker 01

  It hasn't run too long.

• 50:02Speaker 02

  Um, we're, we're gonna get into World Up stuff in a second.

• 50:12Speaker 00

  I'm Claire Buckley and this Halloween on my podcast, Pretty Scary, we are gonna cover the stories that keep you up at night. Real crimes, ghosts and aliens. Plus the scariest movies to watch this spooky season with the lights off. So as the nights draw in, the pumpkins are carved and somewhere in the dark, something is scratching at the window. It's probably just the cat, right? Get the candles lit in search for Pretty Scary with Claire Buckley.

• 50:51Speaker 02

  Right, Joe, it is time to kick off the most exciting tournament happening this summer. It is the World Up 2026.

• 51:39Speaker 01

  At no point can I work out where like the first beat of the bar was.

• 51:43Speaker 02

  Here's a question for you. In two years' time, what are we gonna do for the Euros? How are we gonna make that into a?

• 51:52Speaker 01

  You're right.

• 51:53Speaker 02

  The European Up?

• 51:55Speaker 03

  Yeah, Euros.

• 51:58Speaker 02

  I suppose. I don't know, Will I Am to work it out for us. He's a lyrical genius.

• 52:03Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 52:03Speaker 02

  For the next four weeks, we'll be pitting your facts against one another to crown the ultimate Fact Up Fact. Um, we'll have five knockout rounds where each winner earning a slot in the Fact Up final, where we'll put the facts under even more scrutiny before unveiling the winner of the World Up. Uh, we've got a wall chart and everything. It's just behind Joe.

• 52:25Speaker 01

  Well, we're saying everything.

• 52:26Speaker 02

  We've got a wall chart.

• 52:29Speaker 01

  And that's it.

• 52:30Speaker 02

  And everything.

• 52:30Speaker 01

  Well, no, we got.

• 52:31Speaker 02

  And everything is a thing I say quite a lot when I'm trying to make things seem like a bigger deal than they are.

• 52:35Speaker 01

  To be honest, a wall chart is a big deal. They're always fun. You shouldn't need anything else.

• 52:39Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 52:40Speaker 01

  You should need all your fancy.

• 52:43Speaker 01

  You, what, you know, other things.

• 52:45Speaker 02

  Let's do our, uh, let's do our first, uh, uh, first fact. This comes from Sandra.

• 52:51Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 52:52Speaker 02

  I'll do it. It's all right, Joe.

• 52:53Speaker 01

  Yeah, you do it. You do it. Yeah, yeah.

• 52:55Speaker 02

  Um, it's our, it's time for our first act. Act. I keep saying that.

• 52:58Speaker 01

  First act.

• 53:00Speaker 03

  I hope it's not our first act.

• 53:01Speaker 02

  It's time for our first fact to be presented. This comes from Sandra via the, the Instagram.

• 53:07Speaker 03

  And that's what's written down it.

• 53:08Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 53:09Speaker 02

  Yeah. Via the Instagram.

• 53:11Speaker 01

  Yeah, the Instagram application.

• 53:12Speaker 02

  I remember, uh, I remember, I think it was, um, not to keep banging on about Will I Am, but I think it was on The Voice.

• 53:19Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 53:20Speaker 02

  Where Tom Jones, no, I, I think it must have been before The Voice. Tom Jones was being interviewed or something and, uh, and he was being asked about what contemporary music that he likes. And he was like, oh, I love the Travis.

• 53:36Speaker 02

  I'm just like, the Travis.

• 53:39Speaker 02

  Um, this comes from Sandra by the Instagram. A sneeze droplet can travel up to a hundred miles per hour. That's a genuine fact I learned while sitting on my nan's lap back in the eighties, reading a book she gave me for Christmas called The Giant Book of Amazing Facts. I wish I'd kept it.

• 54:01Speaker 01

  Well, I'm glad that, that um, that she's, that she had a book. I've got, I've got a book as well. My book of facts.

• 54:10Speaker 02

  Yeah, but yours was written in eighteen ninety or something, wasn't it?

• 54:13Speaker 01

  And.

• 54:14Speaker 02

  Which I like, because it makes it precarious.

• 54:17Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's, it's um, but I think, yeah, those little fat books, I mean, that they were, they were, I, I think, I, I think I, I probably had, had one of that as well. Um, and yeah, I don't know, it's nice to, I think, I think there's a sense that like, you know, when the internet came around, it's like, we don't need anything, you know, in a physical book anymore. But actually, I still think there's something kind of, I don't know, I think maybe they have more value than people think.

• 54:45Speaker 02

  Sure.

• 54:46Speaker 01

  My one, my one is, my one is, is, you know, so old that some of the facts are.

• 54:51Speaker 02

  That's what I'm saying.

• 54:52Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 54:52Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 54:53Speaker 01

  They're not really, well, no, a lot, a lot of them are like.

• 54:55Speaker 02

  They were facts, but they're not anymore.

• 54:57Speaker 01

  Well, also a lot of the things that are supposed to like blow your mind are like, there's a train that can travel at sixty miles an hour.

• 55:05Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 55:05Speaker 01

  They're, they're sort of things along, along those lines.

• 55:08Speaker 03

  Pretty good going these days as well.

• 55:10Speaker 01

  Oh, political, political.

• 55:12Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 55:13Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 55:13Speaker 02

  I mean, we're, we're recording this on the day of a tube strike. I went, um, I went, sorry, mate. And he wasn't looking at me. I was like, I was closer than me and you are now.

• 55:25Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 55:25Speaker 02

  I went, sorry, mate. And he was just looking at the floor. And I went, excuse me? And then he looked up and I went, is the Elizabeth flying running? And he went, yeah.

• 55:36Speaker 01

  Yeah. Yeah.

• 55:39Speaker 02

  That's why, that's, that, I assume that's just some guy. He had a high vis on, but he was wearing his own clothes.

• 55:46Speaker 03

  Some people do just wear high vis.

• 55:49Speaker 02

  He had a high vis on with the little London Underground logo on it, but he wasn't wearing a uniform. He was wearing his own clothes. I'm guessing they were, they'd, they got those guys in.

• 55:59Speaker 03

  On clothes day?

• 56:01Speaker 02

  It might have been, it might have been non-school uniform day. No, but I'm guessing it doesn't really work for the London Underground.

• 56:07Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 56:07Speaker 02

  So even when he said, even when he went, I went, I was at Elizabeth Line running, he went, yeah. I went, oh, I don't, I still don't know whether I believe you.

• 56:14Speaker 03

  It's interesting.

• 56:15Speaker 02

  And I was just about to tap in. I was like, if I tap in now and I walk all the way to the Elizabeth Line, which is about a mile underground than all the other lines, it's going to take me about 20 minutes to get there anyway. And I find out there's no Elizabeth Line, fucking coming back for you.

• 56:30Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 56:31Speaker 03

  It's funny to wear high vis, but then not want to look someone in the eye and not want to engage.

• 56:35Speaker 02

  I used to know someone, uh, who, well, I say I used to know, I worked with someone once, I didn't really know them. Um, who was an actor who told me that when he sends his, when he has to take his car in to get fixed or something like that, he wears like dirty overalls.

• 56:56Speaker 02

  And he says things like, oh, could you, would you be able to just take this off my hands? I'm a bit like, I need to, like, would you be able to just look at this? I'm a bit under it at the moment. Like, he comes across as if he himself is a mechanic.

• 57:05Speaker 01

  Oh, I see. He runs another garage. Okay. Oh, that's interesting.

• 57:08Speaker 02

  And he said, and he said, I never get.

• 57:10Speaker 01

  Sexy.

• 57:11Speaker 02

  He said, I never get like screwed over. I never get.

• 57:14Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 57:15Speaker 02

  Because mechanics to me, like, I'm not a mechanic. Like, you could tell me anything's fucking wrong with the car.

• 57:20Speaker 01

  I never get screwed over either. Like, it's always just a straight 2,000 pounds for every job.

• 57:24Speaker 02

  Just a really, yeah.

• 57:25Speaker 01

  And, and they're very straight with me.

• 57:27Speaker 02

  Just a flat fee, 2,000 pounds. That costs about 2,000 pounds.

• 57:30Speaker 01

  Yeah. Yeah.

• 57:33Speaker 02

  Um, and they're like, oh yeah, you need new window wipers on that.

• 57:36Speaker 01

  And they get me to take it all out in cash, so it's convenient for me.

• 57:39Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 57:39Speaker 01

  Cause it's really convenient to take out 2,000 pounds in cash.

• 57:42Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 57:42Speaker 01

  Cause it, because I only have to go to four cash points. So, so it's, it's really handy for me.

• 57:47Speaker 02

  My bank doesn't even let me take out money pretty much. I feel like I start to sweat. If I've ever had to take out like a larger amount, I say like, like a thou- a thousand pounds or 2,000 pounds for something. If I'm trying to sort of put a deposit down on a car or something like that.

• 58:02Speaker 03

  Yeah. And you pay me in cash.

• 58:03Speaker 02

  They're like, what? What are you doing this for? What, what do you, what do you mean? You want to take your money out? What are you talking about? Why, where's it going? What are you doing? What are you doing? Drugs? Is it drugs? Is it drugs? Are you spending this money on drugs? I go, no, I'm not spending the money on drugs.

• 58:16Speaker 01

  I just want to look at, look at the king.

• 58:18Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 58:20Speaker 01

  Sometimes you just wanna have some money in your hand, don't you?

• 58:22Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 58:23Speaker 01

  That's right.

• 58:24Speaker 02

  I'm trying to impress some friends.

• 58:26Speaker 01

  I just want to have some money in my pocket.

• 58:28Speaker 02

  Yeah. Can I, can you, also, can you put it in a briefcase for me?

• 58:33Speaker 02

  Can you line it up in a briefcase? I'd love a briefcase amount of money. Has anyone ever done, has anyone ever really given anyone a briefcase of money?

• 58:42Speaker 02

  That's what I'd really like.

• 58:44Speaker 03

  On the million pound drop?

• 58:46Speaker 02

  Yeah, that was on deck, wasn't it?

• 58:48Speaker 03

  Not sure.

• 58:49Speaker 02

  Yeah, it was, wasn't it?

• 58:50Speaker 03

  Probably.

• 58:51Speaker 02

  Course it was. If it was on deck, who else is it gonna be?

• 58:54Speaker 03

  Well, it was actually Davina McClaw, the other one.

• 58:56Speaker 02

  Oh, Davina.

• 58:58Speaker 03

  There we go.

• 58:59Speaker 02

  Ah, Davina.

• 59:00Speaker 03

  Davina.

• 59:02Speaker 01

  Davina, Davina, Davina. What are we gonna do with you?

• 59:07Speaker 02

  Div? I am, I don't know. Anyway.

• 59:12Speaker 03

  You haven't spoken much about this fact. Is that because it's not very good?

• 59:15Speaker 02

  No, no, it's just, it's just, it's just because it's, it is, again, I've heard the same thing and one hundred percent true.

• 59:22Speaker 03

  Mm hmm.

• 59:23Speaker 01

  I think it's true.

• 59:24Speaker 03

  Do we think it's a good fact then?

• 59:26Speaker 02

  It is a good fact. I mean, it's a, it's a.

• 59:30Speaker 02

  It's, it's a fact. It's a good fact. It's a fine fact.

• 59:35Speaker 01

  I think it's.

• 59:38Speaker 01

  Kind of, I think I, I, I, I think I might have, I might have heard it, but actually thinking about it, it is.

• 59:47Speaker 01

  Pretty remarkable that like. I suppose it's a, it's a, it's a very short distance, isn't it? I mean, it's not, it doesn't.

• 59:54Speaker 02

  Well, if I can, um.

• 59:56Speaker 01

  It doesn't sustain it.

• 59:57Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 59:57Speaker 01

  I have to say, I don't, I, it's one, it reminds me a little bit of. Like, of, you remember, you remember you get those adverts where it's like.

• 1:00:08Speaker 01

  If you sneeze, look where your germ goes. And it's got like green luminous stuff.

• 1:00:12Speaker 02

  Everything, everything else is black and white.

• 1:00:14Speaker 01

  Yeah, and then everything you touch is like, and it's, it's basically going, you're covered in filth, you filthy little bear.

• 1:00:20Speaker 02

  A mum like.

• 1:00:20Speaker 01

  Try not to touch anything at all.

• 1:00:22Speaker 02

  A mum like wipes her nose and then kisses their, their child goodnight and stuff. And then their child's lying in bed and the infection.

• 1:00:29Speaker 01

  All I'm saying is that like, if you wanted to give people OCD. You should show them that video. I would, I'd, I would honestly say, as someone who's had OCD to a kind of debilitating level, that sort of video shouldn't be fucking allowed. It's genuinely, I'd, I'd rather my child gets a cold than that I or my child lives with that level of OCD.

• 1:00:50Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:00:50Speaker 01

  OCD destroys your life. A cold doesn't destroy your life. I genuinely hate those videos.

• 1:00:55Speaker 02

  Can I do a little, um, sort of stacking up a Jenga fact type situation?

• 1:01:00Speaker 01

  Yeah, go on.

• 1:01:01Speaker 02

  On top of Sandra's, um.

• 1:01:03Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:01:03Speaker 02

  Or Sandra.

• 1:01:04Speaker 01

  Should you be getting involved?

• 1:01:05Speaker 02

  I said Sandra there. I've been hanging around with Lily May too long.

• 1:01:08Speaker 03

  Sandra, you said it the right way.

• 1:01:09Speaker 02

  Sandra.

• 1:01:10Speaker 03

  Come on.

• 1:01:11Speaker 01

  Sandra.

• 1:01:12Speaker 02

  Can I, um?

• 1:01:12Speaker 01

  What's on the beach? Sand.

• 1:01:14Speaker 02

  Just, just, just talking about, um.

• 1:01:16Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:01:18Speaker 02

  Molecules. Again, I keep saying words that I don't.

• 1:01:22Speaker 01

  It's all right.

• 1:01:23Speaker 02

  That I'm not qualified to say. Particles.

• 1:01:26Speaker 01

  Particles.

• 1:01:27Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:01:27Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:01:28Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:01:28Speaker 02

  Um, travelling. So you know, there's that thing, um, why, why Europe is actually quite warm? Probably warmer than what it should be.

• 1:01:37Speaker 01

  Because of the jet stream.

• 1:01:37Speaker 02

  Is that, well, it's not the jet stream. That's wind, isn't it?

• 1:01:40Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:01:41Speaker 02

  It's that thing that goes round the Atlantic. It is called some kind of stream. I can't remember what it's called. If I did remember that, I'd look so clever right now. Um, but it goes, goes right down to the South Pole and it comes right up to the North Pole and it goes, sort of swirls between America and Europe.

• 1:01:58Speaker 01

  Hot water up.

• 1:02:00Speaker 02

  Yeah. And it's something to, it's, it's a lot to do with, um, how salty the water is and saltwater sinks, I think. It's heavier than, and it, and it, and it's why Europe is a bit more temperate than.

• 1:02:11Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:02:12Speaker 02

  Because Europe's like.

• 1:02:13Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:02:13Speaker 02

  A lot of the European cities are like on the same latitude, longitude, as, um, northern Canada.

• 1:02:23Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:02:24Speaker 02

  Right? Um, but it's this stream, it's this water that brings us.

• 1:02:28Speaker 01

  The Gulf Stream.

• 1:02:30Speaker 02

  Is it the Gulf Stream? It might be the Gulf Stream.

• 1:02:34Speaker 03

  Oh, the stream.

• 1:02:35Speaker 02

  Let's go with it.

• 1:02:35Speaker 03

  Yeah, that's what came to my mind, but I don't know if it's.

• 1:02:37Speaker 02

  Um, but.

• 1:02:38Speaker 01

  I think it's the Gulf Stream.

• 1:02:39Speaker 02

  Um.

• 1:02:40Speaker 01

  I hope it is, because that'd put me back on track.

• 1:02:42Speaker 02

  They've tried to measure how long it would take a piece of water to fulfill that stream.

• 1:02:50Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:02:51Speaker 02

  And, um, so a particle of water to do that thing, uh, and it can take at least hundreds, possibly thousands of years to do a complete circuit. Uh, so, and also there's a big panic at the moment that it's, it's coming to an end, that it's gonna collapse through, through climate change and through other sort of things and bits and pieces going on, that this thing that keeps Europe quite warm, um, is gonna stop. And that would be really bad for Europe. It would make them sort of, we'd be a lot colder.

• 1:03:25Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:03:26Speaker 02

  Which would have a huge impact on food, on growing food and stuff like that. So it's quite bad, it's quite a bad thing. And for, and if we, if we could be like, right, let's, if it stopped today, and we were like, right, we better stop burning all these fuels and stuff, and let's try and get the, this stream back in business. It could then, because of the knock on effect and because of how long it takes, it could take hundreds, maybe thousands of years for it to kick back in again.

• 1:03:57Speaker 01

  Bloody hell.

• 1:03:59Speaker 02

  I'm just thinking of wet particles travelling, and that's what made me think of that. Again, might not be true.

• 1:04:06Speaker 01

  No, but it's, well, no, but maybe what we need to do.

• 1:04:09Speaker 02

  Complete bollocks.

• 1:04:09Speaker 01

  Is if we do need to sort of speed it up a bit.

• 1:04:13Speaker 02

  Fans, put some fans in the water.

• 1:04:14Speaker 01

  Well, snee- sneezing is what I'm thinking.

• 1:04:16Speaker 02

  Sneeze the water around.

• 1:04:17Speaker 01

  So we get some pepper.

• 1:04:18Speaker 02

  Yeah. How fast do you think a fart travels?

• 1:04:22Speaker 01

  Uh, well, I, they don't travel away fast enough. Uh, but that's the thing, isn't it? With a, with a sneeze, it's all over and you don't, you don't really, I mean, apart from those videos saying that it stays around like a ghost. But like, I mean, obviously it does, but like, just don't, yeah, anyway. I just genuinely hate those videos because it's like, well, okay, well, let's just all never ever go out or ever touch anything or any other person ever and then we'll be safe.

• 1:04:50Speaker 02

  But it's a good fact.

• 1:04:52Speaker 01

  It's a good fact, it's a good fact.

• 1:04:53Speaker 02

  Good fact from Sandra.

• 1:04:53Speaker 01

  But 100 miles per hour.

• 1:04:56Speaker 03

  Farts come out at 7 mile per hour.

• 1:04:58Speaker 02

  7 miles per hour.

• 1:04:59Speaker 01

  They're so gross.

• 1:05:00Speaker 02

  That sort of makes sense because they are just sort of like.

• 1:05:05Speaker 01

  Yeah, they can't, yeah.

• 1:05:06Speaker 03

  Yeah, there you go.

• 1:05:08Speaker 02

  Oh, you're a cummum.

• 1:05:10Speaker 01

  Yeah. 100 miles an hour. So that's the same as like, uh, like a cricket bowling gets up above a hundred, don't they?

• 1:05:19Speaker 03

  Imagine if you farted as quickly as you sneezed.

• 1:05:22Speaker 02

  Well, yeah, I'm like, I, well, I was about to say you'd probably propel yourself, wouldn't you? But you'd do the same if you sneezed, wouldn't you?

• 1:05:30Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah. Yeah, but a fart feels more substantial.

• 1:05:33Speaker 02

  Every time you sneezed.

• 1:05:34Speaker 03

  The holes are smaller, maybe.

• 1:05:36Speaker 02

  But if you, um, your nose holes have got to be bigger than your asshole.

• 1:05:41Speaker 03

  Are you sure? Your asshole can get quite big, I think.

• 1:05:43Speaker 02

  Gets poo out, doesn't it?

• 1:05:45Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:05:45Speaker 02

  And that can be quite big. Well, but I don't, I don't think your asshole gets that big when you fart.

• 1:05:52Speaker 03

  No, but it could if it was powerful.

• 1:05:54Speaker 02

  Or, or if anything.

• 1:05:54Speaker 03

  Blow your bum up.

• 1:05:56Speaker 02

  If anything was smaller, the more powerful, the more concentrated, the, because it's like a hose, isn't it?

• 1:06:01Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:06:02Speaker 02

  When you put your thumb over a hose.

• 1:06:03Speaker 03

  Very little control though. I don't think you'd be able to balance if it was that streamlined.

• 1:06:08Speaker 02

  A thing that I genuinely would like to know. Sneezing or farting applies, but if you were in space and you farted or sneezed, would it be enough to just keep propel you and keep, keep you going?

• 1:06:24Speaker 03

  And how long would it stay in your suit?

• 1:06:26Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:06:29Speaker 02

  That's the thing as well. You don't want to use a suit after me, do you, Joe?

• 1:06:33Speaker 01

  This is, um.

• 1:06:36Speaker 03

  And you, and you could, um, call the new, uh, the new stream, the guff stream.

• 1:06:40Speaker 02

  The guff stream.

• 1:06:41Speaker 01

  Stream is excellent.

• 1:06:44Speaker 02

  Well, listen, I think we've spoke about that fact a lot.

• 1:06:46Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:06:47Speaker 02

  I think we need to.

• 1:06:48Speaker 01

  It's a good fact. It gives, it gives, it, it gives some much needed glory to the sneeze, which is otherwise can seem a bit humdrum. But actually it turns out, you know, re- record breaking speeds.

• 1:07:00Speaker 02

  Let's have a little ad break, Joe, and then we'll come back with, and we'll find out what 100 mile an hour sneeze is up against.

• 1:07:06Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:07:10Speaker 02

  Right, welcome back.

• 1:07:11Speaker 01

  Hi.

• 1:07:11Speaker 02

  We're right in the middle of World Up. The half time whistle is gone. We're back for the second half.

• 1:07:19Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:07:20Speaker 02

  It's time for fact number two. And this one, it's a strong contender. I've just read it. I don't wanna, you know.

• 1:07:27Speaker 01

  I've read it as well.

• 1:07:29Speaker 02

  And I think this one could go, this is, this, this is one of the facts I feel like could go all the way in the tournament.

• 1:07:34Speaker 01

  If true, if true.

• 1:07:35Speaker 02

  That lets, well, we decide whether it's true or not.

• 1:07:37Speaker 01

  Yeah, we do.

• 1:07:38Speaker 02

  And I'm gonna be honest, I want this to be true so much.

• 1:07:42Speaker 01

  I can't see how it could be. Well, anyway, should we say what it is?

• 1:07:45Speaker 02

  Go on, Joe. Can you present us with?

• 1:07:47Speaker 01

  Yeah, so this is from Adrian on Instagram. Original raspberry flavouring comes from beaver anal glands.

• 1:07:55Speaker 02

  Hmm.

• 1:07:58Speaker 02

  What are you thinking, Joe?

• 1:07:59Speaker 01

  Why would, well, why would raspberry flavouring come from beaver anal glands?

• 1:08:03Speaker 02

  Here we go.

• 1:08:04Speaker 01

  That's what I'm thinking.

• 1:08:05Speaker 02

  So you know how flavours are artificially created?

• 1:08:08Speaker 01

  I do know that.

• 1:08:09Speaker 02

  And, and perfumes and things, they use a lot of weird shit that comes from animals. What's it? Is it whale snot or something? Ambergris, ambergris or something like that?

• 1:08:20Speaker 01

  Yeah, ambergris.

• 1:08:21Speaker 02

  Is it just something they cough up or something like that?

• 1:08:24Speaker 01

  Yeah, it is.

• 1:08:24Speaker 02

  It's worth a fortune.

• 1:08:26Speaker 01

  I think, yeah, did they used to use it?

• 1:08:27Speaker 02

  I only know that because of Bob's Burgers.

• 1:08:30Speaker 01

  Did they use, is ambergris the stuff that they would, they would get from the heads of whales? And there was, there was a sort of whale called the right whale, where they were sort of hunted, I think, to extinction or nearly to extinction.

• 1:08:45Speaker 02

  I think that's an old whalers joke.

• 1:08:48Speaker 01

  No, the reason it's called.

• 1:08:48Speaker 02

  What good joke, what, what good, what good whale?

• 1:08:51Speaker 01

  Yeah, I think that, that's what, I think, I know, I think the, the slightly poignant fact is the reason they were hunted so extensively and were called the right whale is because it was the right whale to kill. Like it was.

• 1:09:01Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:09:02Speaker 01

  But it was almost like, it feels a bit sad for this whale because like they couldn't even be bothered to give it a proper name before, like its name was basically the one you kill.

• 1:09:11Speaker 02

  I think sperm whales, and by the way, hilarious name.

• 1:09:15Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:09:15Speaker 03

  It's humiliating.

• 1:09:16Speaker 02

  I think, um.

• 1:09:17Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:09:18Speaker 02

  I think.

• 1:09:19Speaker 01

  Like they all produce sperm. They all produce sperm.

• 1:09:21Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:09:22Speaker 01

  They're all doing it.

• 1:09:23Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:09:24Speaker 01

  But like.

• 1:09:25Speaker 02

  Why is the sperm whale called the sperm whale?

• 1:09:27Speaker 01

  Yeah, why does he, why does he have to carry the can?

• 1:09:29Speaker 02

  I don't think it looks like, if it had a little, if it was a, if it had the same head, but like a snake's body.

• 1:09:34Speaker 01

  I'll tell you what should be called a sperm something.

• 1:09:36Speaker 02

  Go on.

• 1:09:37Speaker 01

  A sperm tadpole.

• 1:09:38Speaker 02

  A sperm pole, sperm pole.

• 1:09:41Speaker 01

  Well, I mean, that looks like a sperm, is what I'm saying.

• 1:09:42Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:09:44Speaker 01

  More than a tad like a sperm.

• 1:09:45Speaker 02

  Yeah, we've got tadpoles at the moment in our garden.

• 1:09:49Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:09:49Speaker 02

  Yeah, I think they're tadpoles.

• 1:09:51Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:09:52Speaker 02

  Sometimes you've got to be careful. One time we had a, when the kids.

• 1:09:55Speaker 01

  Might be sperm.

• 1:09:56Speaker 02

  And the kid.

• 1:09:58Speaker 02

  Might be sperm.

• 1:10:01Speaker 01

  We've got loads of, um, tad, I think they're tadpoles.

• 1:10:04Speaker 02

  I think they're tadpoles. Might be sperm, I don't know. Listen, there are.

• 1:10:08Speaker 01

  There's more tadpoles on the front doorstep of our house.

• 1:10:10Speaker 02

  There are three, there are three lads in my house.

• 1:10:14Speaker 01

  So they've got, um.

• 1:10:16Speaker 02

  But yeah, you.

• 1:10:16Speaker 01

  So they've got these anal glands.

• 1:10:18Speaker 02

  Yeah, but maybe they're a bit, um, raspberry flavoured.

• 1:10:23Speaker 01

  I've heard that, um, perfume comes from anal glands quite often and.

• 1:10:27Speaker 02

  They love a bit of anal gland.

• 1:10:29Speaker 01

  Whenever I think of an anal.

• 1:10:30Speaker 02

  You wouldn't make a fucking perfume out of my dog's anal glands, that's for sure.

• 1:10:33Speaker 01

  Hmm.

• 1:10:34Speaker 02

  Jesus Christ, unless it was egg by Paco Rabanne or something.

• 1:10:41Speaker 01

  Yeah, I have heard about, I mean, the anal glands have come up before in the context of particularly smell. And I, it, it, it feels like it's a very potent, do we have anal glands?

• 1:10:54Speaker 02

  Yeah, we must do.

• 1:10:56Speaker 01

  Human beings.

• 1:10:57Speaker 02

  We must have some anal glands going on somewhere.

• 1:10:59Speaker 01

  And, and, and I suppose what I'm saying is what smells might I mind?

• 1:11:02Speaker 02

  Isn't that what piles are?

• 1:11:04Speaker 03

  Humans do have anal glands.

• 1:11:06Speaker 02

  Isn't piles your exposed anal glands?

• 1:11:08Speaker 01

  I think piles is just sort of prolapsed, I don't know.

• 1:11:12Speaker 02

  Like a blood blister or something?

• 1:11:13Speaker 01

  Yeah, I don't really know.

• 1:11:15Speaker 03

  I am gonna Google it, but I don't really wanna know.

• 1:11:17Speaker 01

  And, and I'd be interested to know if anything useful can be extracted from the human anal gland. Maybe we could give a little back. The beaver gets to wear a perfume made from, or you know, eat a sweet.

• 1:11:30Speaker 02

  Have they reintroduced beavers yet to Scotland? I remember reading about that.

• 1:11:35Speaker 03

  Um, sorry, I'm just reading about piles. They're swollen inflamed blood vessels located inside or around the lower rectum and anus.

• 1:11:44Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:11:45Speaker 01

  Are piles hemorrhoids?

• 1:11:46Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 1:11:47Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:11:47Speaker 01

  Do you want to know how to spell hemorrhoid?

• 1:11:49Speaker 02

  Uh, H E.

• 1:11:51Speaker 01

  I think it's the hardest one.

• 1:11:52Speaker 02

  M E. There's two Ms in it. Is there two Rs in it? Do you know what's a really hard word to spell?

• 1:12:00Speaker 01

  This is.

• 1:12:02Speaker 01

  This is absolutely, this is high octane stuff.

• 1:12:05Speaker 03

  This is gonna, I think this is gonna be one of our longest episodes.

• 1:12:07Speaker 01

  Spelling, spellings.

• 1:12:09Speaker 02

  It is like, I don't want to get into the subject or anything, obviously. But just as, just stating a fact here, a really hard word to spell is the word paedophile.

• 1:12:19Speaker 03

  I knew that was coming.

• 1:12:21Speaker 01

  It's not that hard, is it? P A E. Well, some, some people leave out the A. They're just gonna go paedophile.

• 1:12:27Speaker 02

  It should just be, you know, cause sometimes if you're trying to take the piss out of your mate on text and you want to call him a pedo or something.

• 1:12:34Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:12:34Speaker 02

  Uh, you do just want to put P E D O.

• 1:12:37Speaker 03

  I find that quite annoying, actually. I'm a bit of a pedant. I think you should put the A in.

• 1:12:41Speaker 02

  You're a bit of a what?

• 1:12:44Speaker 01

  But also, isn't it that A where?

• 1:12:45Speaker 02

  What's the thing that Mark says?

• 1:12:48Speaker 01

  I'm a paedophobe.

• 1:12:50Speaker 02

  Pedophile, that's it. Right, we do need to, this is the longest episode ever.

• 1:12:54Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:12:54Speaker 02

  We need to, um.

• 1:12:56Speaker 01

  Is, I, I mean, look, I, I.

• 1:12:57Speaker 02

  We need to, a hundred mile an hour sneeze is going up, be, going up against beaver's anal glands.

• 1:13:03Speaker 03

  It's, it's one end versus the other.

• 1:13:05Speaker 02

  Now, I, I don't think I've made any, uh, secret to what I'm leaning towards.

• 1:13:10Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:13:11Speaker 02

  And if beaver's anal glands is not in the world up final, I mean, I'm, I really feel bad for Sandra. Said it again. Sandra, um, but.

• 1:13:22Speaker 01

  Well, I, I like, I like the, um, I, I, I'm more like. Um. Where the sneeze fats fact comes from, which is that it was read, you know, from a book.

• 1:13:33Speaker 02

  Oh, it's a beautiful story. There's a lot of ingredients there.

• 1:13:35Speaker 01

  There's, I like, you know, she was on a nan's lap, the eighties.

• 1:13:38Speaker 02

  A fact book. It's all brilliant.

• 1:13:40Speaker 01

  Fact book. Probably got it for Christmas alongside a Vino annual or something.

• 1:13:44Speaker 02

  Adrian, let's not, listen, Adrian hasn't spun a story. Adrian has literally just said the words raspberry flavouring comes from Beaver anal glands.

• 1:13:53Speaker 01

  Yeah. It's quite a sort of, um, it's quite, it's honestly quite, it's quite Hemingway, actually. It's almost like for sale, baby shoes, never worn.

• 1:14:04Speaker 02

  Hmm. Cole Hemingway. Wayne Hemingway.

• 1:14:09Speaker 01

  Wayne Hemingway. Ernest Hemingway.

• 1:14:12Speaker 02

  Ernest Hemingway. Wayne Hemingway is the dancer, isn't it?

• 1:14:15Speaker 03

  Never heard of him.

• 1:14:18Speaker 02

  Isn't Wayne Hemingway a dancer?

• 1:14:19Speaker 01

  I don't know.

• 1:14:21Speaker 03

  He's a designer.

• 1:14:23Speaker 02

  Oh, he's, yeah, fashion designer. That's right.

• 1:14:25Speaker 03

  Yeah. Oh, founder of Red or Dead.

• 1:14:27Speaker 02

  Didn't he do Red or Dead? Yeah. Uh, yeah. I like Wayne Hemingway. He wears some good glasses and he seems like a bit of a dude.

• 1:14:36Speaker 01

  It's hard. I, I sort of agree. I think it's quite hard to, um, argue with raspberry.

• 1:14:44Speaker 02

  Yeah. Are you gonna go with it or do I have to like play my golden buzzer or something?

• 1:14:48Speaker 01

  No, no, no. I think I'm happy to go with it. I think, I think, I like Sandra's fact. I particularly like the story and the world, but I think it's come up against.

• 1:14:56Speaker 02

  It's come up against Beaver's anal glands. I think Sandra would be sitting there going, oh, I'm gutted.

• 1:15:02Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:15:03Speaker 02

  It, it, it is like, it's.

• 1:15:06Speaker 01

  She's got an unlucky jaw.

• 1:15:07Speaker 02

  It's the Faroe Islands against Brazil at the moment.

• 1:15:09Speaker 01

  Yeah, it is really, yeah. And like, it's brilliant for the Faroe Islands to, to be there.

• 1:15:14Speaker 02

  Yeah. Or it's like, it, it's like a, um.

• 1:15:17Speaker 01

  And they've given a good account of themselves as well.

• 1:15:20Speaker 02

  It's like a conference team being drawn, drawn against Man United in the FA Cup.

• 1:15:24Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:15:24Speaker 02

  I'm sure Sandra's gonna make some cash out of this.

• 1:15:27Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:15:27Speaker 02

  And it's good for the club.

• 1:15:28Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:15:29Speaker 02

  And whatnot. But inevitably Beaver's, Beaver's anal glands are going.

• 1:15:35Speaker 01

  I think they're going through.

• 1:15:35Speaker 02

  They're going through. All right.

• 1:15:38Speaker 01

  Well done, Adrian.

• 1:15:39Speaker 02

  Well done, well done, Adrian.

• 1:15:40Speaker 01

  Adrian on Instagram, as you're known.

• 1:15:43Speaker 02

  Um, do we check if it's true?

• 1:15:45Speaker 03

  Um.

• 1:15:45Speaker 02

  Or do we, or should we?

• 1:15:47Speaker 03

  It's completely up to you. I, I have given you information, further information for it. If you're satisfied with the information you have.

• 1:15:52Speaker 02

  I'm still making up the rules in my head as we go along. Well, I don't know if we hold off into the final until we get into that sort of stuff.

• 1:15:57Speaker 03

  Yeah, we can do that. Yeah.

• 1:15:58Speaker 02

  Maybe we should make that a rule. It's a bit late. We're changing the rules as the tournament goes on.

• 1:16:02Speaker 03

  Unfortunate for the first two games, but why not?

• 1:16:04Speaker 02

  But maybe we should make it a rule that we don't, um, actually have some actual information until we get to the final.

• 1:16:10Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 1:16:11Speaker 02

  Hey, stay our podcast. We can do whatever the fuck we want.

• 1:16:13Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:16:14Speaker 02

  And also, it's the World Up. It doesn't matter. It's meaningless.

• 1:16:19Speaker 01

  Well.

• 1:16:20Speaker 02

  Absolutely meaningless. Hey, we'll all be dead soon. I don't know about you, Joe, but I'm all fact out.

• 1:16:25Speaker 01

  Me too.

• 1:16:26Speaker 02

  What, what have we learnt? What have we learnt today?

• 1:16:29Speaker 01

  Well.

• 1:16:29Speaker 02

  What have we learnt? Sneeze is a fast and, um, anal and beaver's anal glands smell like raspberries. That's pretty much it. Um, guys, we need your facts. Get involved in the World Up.

• 1:16:39Speaker 01

  Yeah, come on.

• 1:16:40Speaker 02

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• 1:16:42Speaker 01

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• 1:16:44Speaker 02

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• 1:16:53Speaker 01

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• 1:16:55Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:16:56Speaker 03

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• 1:16:58Speaker 02

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• 1:17:11Speaker 01

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• 1:17:27Speaker 01

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• 1:17:45Speaker 04

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• 1:17:51Speaker 05

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• 1:17:52Speaker 04

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• 1:17:56Speaker 05

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• 1:18:00Speaker 04

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