What's Scarier Than Joe Thomas' Trainers?

This week, Joe Thomas and James Buckley respond to your comments, share why an episode of The Inbetweeners almost couldn't air and as it's Halloween week, James talks about his foray into the horror genre and The Fact Boys share some 'spooky' facts. Plus it's Joe's birthday so the boys talk aging and their favourite decades of their lives so far! GET IN TOUCH: Whatsapp us - wa.me/447822034330 http://wa.me/447822034330 Fill in our Fact Up Form - https://forms.gle/uzF6XWPqaA5aNTtN7 Subscribe on Youtube - www.youtube.com/@JoeandJamesPod/videos http://www.youtube.com/@JoeandJamesPod/videos Follow us on Instagram - www.instagram.com/joeandjamespod http://www.instagram.com/joeandjamespod Follow us on TikTok - www.tiktok.com/@joeandjamespod http://www.tiktok.com/@joeandjamespod Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy https://acast.com/privacy for more information.

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  Friend of mine, I say friend of mine, no, it wasn't a friend, was it? That's a shame. There was a boy at my school turned up to a disco wearing a Puma t-shirt, two-stripe Adidas jogging bottoms and shiny school shoes.

• 1:24Speaker 02

  And this is the song that followed him throughout the whole of school. It was to the tune of "Let Me Entertain You", right, Robbie Williams. And it just became a thing. Whenever we saw him, we just went, "Puma two-stripe shiny shoes, Puma two-stripe shiny shoes, Puma two-stripe shiny shoes.

• 1:49Speaker 02

  Come on, come on, come on, come on."

• 1:53Speaker 02

  He didn't know we did that, so it was sort of bullying, but it wasn't, there wasn't really a victim.

• 1:59Speaker 03

  Yeah, wow. Because he didn't know, he didn't know.

• 2:02Speaker 02

  And the thing is, he was ginger, and we could have gone after that, and we didn't.

• 2:05Speaker 03

  Exactly. So in a way, you were sort of inoculating him against worse stuff.

• 2:10Speaker 02

  Exactly.

• 2:11Speaker 03

  Yeah.

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  Fact up again.

• 2:26Speaker 02

  Welcome to Joe and James Fact Up. Each week we'll be bringing one another a fact that we deem interesting and our policy is the more interesting, the more true it is. I shouldn't have drank a big ol' beer just before. Yeah, do you want me to do it? I'm more than capable, Joe. Okay, fine, that's fine. I just, I can, I don't mind. I mean, I just shouted, "I'm more than capable." You're more than capable! I'm, all I'm doing is proving that I'm not. Yeah, you shouldn't burp during your, kind of, carry on. Listen, we'll unpack it, debate it, and then probably wander off on something completely unrelated. We'll also dig into the weird things that you'd like to think are true, but don't want to research yourself, in a segment that we're calling Fact Check. So, we want you to send

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  your facts for us. You can email us, [email protected]. You can WhatsApp us on 07822 034 330. You can follow us on our socials, @joandjamespod. And you can watch all our episodes on YouTube. Just search for Joe and James Fact Up. And the YouTube videos come out the exact same day as the audio. Ahead to the podcast description, if you've already forgotten those details. Now, let's get fact up!

• 3:43Speaker 02

  Now, Joe. Yeah. Here's something we need to, um... Yeah, we've had some messages. Yeah, so, we've, we're now properly caught up. A few episodes have gone out now. Yeah. I've been keeping my eye on the older, on the old... The mailbag. On the comments and such. Yeah. That'll be a comment. "Don't let Buckley burp anymore." It's the beer, it's not my fault, it's the beer. You got to be, you're a human being, mate. I've been keeping an eye on the comments and, I'll tell you something, Joe. It's a, it's a sort of, I'm not one of those guys, one of those guys where it's like, listen, I make what I wanna make. And if you like it, then that's cool. And if you don't, you can fuck off.

• 4:24Speaker 03

  Neither am I.

• 4:25Speaker 02

  I'm not one of those guys.

• 4:25Speaker 03

  Neither am I.

• 4:26Speaker 02

  I think you've got to remember that you're making some, you're trying to, you're making something for people, aren't you? Right?

• 4:32Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 4:32Speaker 02

  You can't be that stubborn.

• 4:33Speaker 03

  Ideally.

• 4:34Speaker 02

  Um, and we've had some constructive criticism.

• 4:38Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 4:39Speaker 02

  All of it agreed with. I just read it all. I was like, yeah, you're right.

• 4:42Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 4:42Speaker 02

  Right, absolutely right. The main one is, is that um, more me than you, but even you were getting it in the last couple of episodes. Is that we need to stop talking over each other.

• 4:52Speaker 03

  Yeah, I know, I've um.

• 4:53Speaker 02

  But that's a problem that we've always had.

• 4:55Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah.

• 4:55Speaker 02

  We do need to stop it, cause it doesn't make for a nice listening. Is that a sentence?

• 5:01Speaker 03

  Yeah, it doesn't make for a nice listening. Yeah, no, I, I, I agree. And I've, I've been aware of this as well. And I've seen that it's, I say seen, I, people have told, I'm too much of a coward to read the comments. So like, people, people have told me.

• 5:15Speaker 02

  I think it's important to, cause I think it helps.

• 5:17Speaker 03

  I know what's in them, but I, I have, I have, well, yeah.

• 5:22Speaker 02

  I already know what they're gonna say.

• 5:23Speaker 03

  I know what they're gonna say. It's not like, it's like when you go to an exam, you know how well you've done. It's not gonna come back, oh, you aced it. But I didn't, like, but yeah, I am, I know that we are interrupting each other too much.

• 5:37Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 5:37Speaker 03

  I had an idea that we could get a conch, which is a big shell, that.

• 5:45Speaker 02

  Yeah, you, you, you pass the conch and whoever's holding the conch talks.

• 5:49Speaker 03

  Yeah, and it's, it's, they have one in Lord of the Flies.

• 5:52Speaker 02

  Right. I think we'd just be wrestling each other.

• 5:54Speaker 03

  We would be trying to get the conch. The conch would be smashed up.

• 5:57Speaker 02

  But this is our thing. This is what we've always done. And it did remind me of when we were making the show, the, the Inbetweeners.

• 6:02Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 6:03Speaker 02

  And I don't know, like, let's get the other boys in.

• 6:07Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 6:08Speaker 02

  And then they can really see what a mess. Because while we were, while we were supposed to be making a TV show or a film or whatever.

• 6:15Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 6:15Speaker 02

  Most of the time was us spent trying to talk over each other, trying, trying our hardest to make each other laugh. And that's all we did when we were making, if there was a, if there was a TV show or a film at the end of the day, they were lucky that they got that out of us.

• 6:28Speaker 03

  Yeah, it, it's, I was kind of surprised they brought the first series out. I didn't think they'd have the footage.

• 6:34Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 6:35Speaker 03

  I was, I was like, oh, you fat shilly. And they didn't actually, did they? There was one, there was one episode that was 16 minutes long. When they edited it together. They're like, we.

• 6:44Speaker 03

  And I mean, that, that feels like something you should be on top of as a production, like making sure that you've got enough television.

• 6:53Speaker 02

  That's interrupting you there.

• 6:54Speaker 03

  No, Jerry, it's fine. Things people do. I don't know what it's.

• 6:58Speaker 02

  We do it too much, though. I did try. I had to stop listening. Trying to listen. I was trying to listen. I was like, oh, this is well annoying. This is so irritating.

• 7:08Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 7:10Speaker 02

  We'll just try. But we'll just let, we'll just, we just want to let you guys know that we are looking at your comments and we are listening.

• 7:16Speaker 03

  We are.

• 7:16Speaker 02

  Lily May?

• 7:17Speaker 05

  Mm hmm. We're listening.

• 7:19Speaker 03

  We're listening. We are listening.

• 7:21Speaker 02

  And you can hear that? The people have spoken?

• 7:23Speaker 05

  Hello.

• 7:25Speaker 02

  The comments were like, get that bird, uh, microphone.

• 7:29Speaker 03

  Not, and again, not out, not out, not.

• 7:30Speaker 05

  Only for the facts. Only for the facts. So I should shut up.

• 7:33Speaker 03

  Oh.

• 7:36Speaker 03

  I don't agree with that at all. And they like the cackling.

• 7:38Speaker 02

  They like the cackling.

• 7:39Speaker 03

  Well, speaking, good for Halloween, isn't it? More cackling. We're out the cackling because it's Halloween.

• 7:43Speaker 02

  We'll get on to that in a second. But no, we are listening to your comments and we do agree. You're right. You're right. There's loads of things that we could do to improve this. And we'll, we'll get there eventually. I'm sure we will. We are trying our best, though. We've got some reactions to our jingle. Oh, I keep forgetting we've got that jingle.

• 8:06Speaker 02

  Um, Meme XO on Spotify says, interesting jingles. I thought the jingles on the Buckley's were shite. That's a.

• 8:14Speaker 03

  I see. Yeah, you've.

• 8:15Speaker 02

  That's a podcast that I do with Claire.

• 8:17Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 8:17Speaker 02

  You've been on.

• 8:18Speaker 03

  No, I, I know.

• 8:19Speaker 02

  And we have, we have really bad jingles.

• 8:21Speaker 03

  That is how that scans, isn't it? I thought it was two separate. I read it as like, interesting jingles. New paragraph. I thought the jingles on the Buckles were shite, but actually, but actually it's saying, I thought I'd heard shit. But now I missed the jingles on the Buckley's. Fucking hell. I was spoilt.

• 8:37Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 8:38Speaker 03

  Okay. Well, good. Well, that's good.

• 8:40Speaker 02

  You know, I was born listening to those jingles.

• 8:42Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 8:42Speaker 02

  Um, wow, dude, thanks. Seven, nine, six, two on YouTube says, it definitely mirrors the show's tone. But what makes podcast jingles stick in your head is a catchy iconic sound. The words have a ring, but nothing beats an obscure, short earworm. Keep up the great work.

• 9:01Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 9:02Speaker 02

  Thanks. Thanks. Thanks, Wildu. Thanks.

• 9:04Speaker 03

  Yeah, that's interesting. It's quite a lot to unpack there, isn't it?

• 9:06Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 9:07Speaker 03

  It kind of. I'm not sure where that lands.

• 9:10Speaker 02

  Um, the object is on Instagram just says it's like a fever dream. Are you going to entertain or haunt us?

• 9:15Speaker 03

  Halloween, so fine.

• 9:17Speaker 02

  Um.

• 9:18Speaker 03

  You're welcome.

• 9:19Speaker 02

  Amber Gallagher, straight to the point on Spotify, just says you need someone, you need someone better to do the jingles.

• 9:26Speaker 03

  Yeah, that's, yeah, fine. That's, yeah, makes sense. No, I don't mean, I just mean it makes, the sentence makes sense. If, I think you've, you seemed skeptical, but.

• 9:35Speaker 02

  Erica Anne has gone the complete opposite, and this is one of the comments I don't agree with, to be honest with you. On Instagram, she says, um, I think we need a full three minute version on all streaming services. Challenge accepted. Maybe we could do a rap. Maybe there could be a sort of wham rap in it, Joe.

• 9:55Speaker 03

  I'll, I'll tell you what.

• 9:56Speaker 02

  We could write that.

• 9:57Speaker 03

  Something a bit, a little bit political.

• 10:01Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 10:02Speaker 02

  What else we got? And the rest are just quite nice. They're less funny.

• 10:08Speaker 02

  Well, Ian, Ian Gil Martin says, it's terrible, but that's what will make it so iconic and memorable. Harry Booth says, this has made my year. The jingle does need some work, mate.

• 10:19Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 10:19Speaker 02

  And Ding Dong Accountant says, best theme song of anything ever.

• 10:25Speaker 03

  Oh, well, that's good.

• 10:26Speaker 02

  Thank you, Ding Dong Accountant. You are in the minority, Ding Dong.

• 10:30Speaker 03

  Ding Dong Accountant. That's all right. Well, I don't, I mean, I think that seems like, I think we can, I think we can keep it.

• 10:37Speaker 02

  Yeah, well, well, are you gonna do, are you gonna make a jingle?

• 10:41Speaker 03

  I can't, I don't know how to, I don't know how to. Yeah, I don't know how to.

• 10:44Speaker 02

  So that'll be it then.

• 10:48Speaker 02

  We've also had, um, so, uh, a message from Anthony about the pneumatic tubes.

• 10:55Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 10:55Speaker 02

  Uh, or.

• 10:56Speaker 03

  Just before you do it, can I just put my phone on iPhone mode? Is that right?

• 10:59Speaker 02

  You can do whatever you want, mate.

• 11:00Speaker 03

  Sorry.

• 11:00Speaker 02

  This is your, this is your podcast. You can put it on loud. If you wanted to. No one's gonna tell you to turn your phone off here, mate.

• 11:07Speaker 03

  I know, but I just feel like I should try and be.

• 11:11Speaker 03

  Whatever. Professional.

• 11:12Speaker 02

  Sure.

• 11:13Speaker 03

  Sorry. Here we are. Right, that's that done. Right, here we are.

• 11:16Speaker 02

  Anyway, um.

• 11:18Speaker 03

  Yeah, go on.

• 11:19Speaker 02

  Loads have got in touch with us about the pneumatic tubes, or for want of a better word.

• 11:23Speaker 03

  For want of a better word, the pneumatic tubes. Yeah, this is.

• 11:25Speaker 02

  Dildos.

• 11:26Speaker 03

  This is of the dildo. So yes, of course we called them, yes.

• 11:29Speaker 02

  Um, here's one from Anthony. He says, hi Joe and James. Listening to your first podcast and James was talking about his mother working in the home office and using a chute, brackets dildo, to transfer documents. I think I can top this one. I'm from Dublin and there is a local shop uh, in the, in an area called Nealestown. Due to the amount of thefts of chicken fillet rolls, a staple of Irish lunches, from their deli, the shop set up a chute system that would transport the deli-prepared chicken fillet directly to the till. Just think about how many rolls must have been stolen for them to have this idea.

• 12:10Speaker 02

  Um, FYI, next time you're in Dublin, try yourself a chicken fillet roll. My personal favourite is a spicy chicken fillet, lettuce, cheese and taco sauce. Anyway, going strong with the podcast. The first one was brilliant.

• 12:23Speaker 03

  Oh.

• 12:23Speaker 02

  And we haven't heard from him since. What are we on? Episode six?

• 12:27Speaker 02

  Episode six now.

• 12:29Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's um, yeah, I wonder how many listen to. Do you listen to six? And he was like, the first one was brilliant.

• 12:35Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 12:36Speaker 03

  Yeah, going strong. But you want to say going strong?

• 12:39Speaker 02

  Going strong. Thanks for that.

• 12:40Speaker 03

  That's great though. So this, this chicken fillet roll.

• 12:43Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 12:44Speaker 03

  Is coming along through a tube.

• 12:46Speaker 02

  Listen, man, this shop, right? They're selling these chicken fillet rolls that are so good, they've had to come up with some kind of, some kind of Wallace and Gromit style security.

• 12:58Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 12:59Speaker 02

  To stop people from nicking all the chicken fillet rolls.

• 13:02Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 13:03Speaker 02

  I've got to try one.

• 13:05Speaker 03

  Is it all right by the time it's arrived? Like, because it's not all going to be torn apart by the G-forces or whatever.

• 13:11Speaker 02

  No, it's Newton's first law of.

• 13:14Speaker 03

  Every sandwich.

• 13:17Speaker 02

  Sandwiches.

• 13:17Speaker 03

  Has an equal and opposite sandwich.

• 13:20Speaker 02

  No, it's right. It's like when you jump on a train.

• 13:22Speaker 03

  Saying it's like already there.

• 13:23Speaker 02

  If you, if you jump in a train carriage.

• 13:25Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah.

• 13:26Speaker 02

  You're not going to like fly back, are you?

• 13:30Speaker 02

  Newton came up with that. Don't have a go at me. It was Newton's fault.

• 13:34Speaker 03

  You might fly back if it was going really, I'm just saying if it is too fast, so you're gonna end up with no filling or it's just gonna be like a.

• 13:40Speaker 02

  Well, that's the thing. Yeah, it depends on the acceleration and deceleration.

• 13:45Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, because if it's going too fast.

• 13:48Speaker 02

  Because that's a misconception as well, because people think, um, oh God, if we, if we ever learn how to travel the speed of light, learn.

• 13:55Speaker 03

  If we. Well, do you mean like, we do know, but nobody can be bothered to read the book.

• 14:00Speaker 02

  If we get really.

• 14:01Speaker 03

  Revised. It's like, isn't a book, it's like, I'm not reading that.

• 14:05Speaker 02

  No, but if we get really fast, we keep running and get better and better at it, right?

• 14:09Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 14:09Speaker 02

  If we learn how to go the speed of light, there's a, people think, oh God, but you'll just be like, sucked back into your chair, like if you were on the.

• 14:19Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 14:20Speaker 02

  If you were on a spacecraft, right?

• 14:22Speaker 03

  Yeah, you're on a rocket.

• 14:23Speaker 02

  But that's only, it just depends about acceleration and deceleration. Once you, once you're constant.

• 14:29Speaker 03

  I see, okay.

• 14:30Speaker 02

  Even if you're going the speed of light.

• 14:32Speaker 03

  Yeah, okay.

• 14:32Speaker 02

  It would feel like you're just on a train or something.

• 14:34Speaker 03

  I understand, yeah. So you just need to, just need to gently get there.

• 14:37Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 14:37Speaker 03

  Like, don't, don't.

• 14:38Speaker 02

  Very slowly get to the speed of light.

• 14:41Speaker 03

  Just work through the gears.

• 14:43Speaker 02

  But I assume that would.

• 14:43Speaker 03

  Now, how many gears would you have though? Do you know what I mean?

• 14:45Speaker 02

  Oh, nine.

• 14:47Speaker 03

  Nine probably.

• 14:47Speaker 02

  Let's move on, because Stephanie's here as well in the USA.

• 14:50Speaker 03

  I love that roll thing though, that's really good.

• 14:53Speaker 02

  Um, Stephanie says, she's from America by the way.

• 14:56Speaker 03

  USA.

• 14:56Speaker 02

  Which means, um, she's better.

• 14:58Speaker 03

  Yeah, so.

• 14:59Speaker 02

  I don't know why, but if I hear that someone's from America, I do sort of go, oh really?

• 15:03Speaker 03

  You know, oh, okay.

• 15:04Speaker 02

  Because, because the in-between is.

• 15:08Speaker 03

  All right.

• 15:09Speaker 02

  But just because.

• 15:09Speaker 03

  Oh, okay. Um.

• 15:13Speaker 03

  Yeah. Oh, okay.

• 15:14Speaker 02

  Get a bit flustered.

• 15:16Speaker 03

  Right? Hi.

• 15:19Speaker 02

  No, but you know, like, you know, the in-between is so big.

• 15:21Speaker 03

  Did you fly over or?

• 15:23Speaker 03

  Where'd you come from?

• 15:23Speaker 02

  This is why I have to interrupt, because Joe will just do this forever.

• 15:27Speaker 03

  No, but like, I know, he has to interrupt. You should be allowed to interrupt me.

• 15:30Speaker 02

  That's another thing as well, that I did want to say to every single person that commented, saying, can James stop interrupting Joe?

• 15:35Speaker 03

  He has to.

• 15:36Speaker 02

  I do need to, because you will just keep going.

• 15:38Speaker 03

  You have to interrupt me to save me from myself.

• 15:41Speaker 02

  A little bit, yeah.

• 15:41Speaker 03

  Because eventually I would have spoken about everything in the world.

• 15:44Speaker 02

  Yeah, well, yeah. Like a monkey with a typewriter, isn't it?

• 15:47Speaker 03

  It is like that. You have to, you have to try and come in and, um. Just do something.

• 15:54Speaker 02

  Like now?

• 15:55Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 15:55Speaker 02

  Um, no, but you know, you know, the in between, it was big in Britain, right? But no, no, outside of Britain, no one gives a fuck.

• 16:02Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 16:02Speaker 02

  About the in between us.

• 16:03Speaker 03

  I think all that.

• 16:04Speaker 02

  So when I hear, when I hear someone from America goes, oh, I'm a big in between us fan. I do sort of go, oh, hello, sorry.

• 16:13Speaker 02

  It is a bit like that.

• 16:14Speaker 03

  No, it is, it's good.

• 16:15Speaker 02

  Anyway, Stephanie says, um, so for want of a better word, the dildo tubes

• 16:22Speaker 02

  in the States are pneumatic tubes and we still have them in use at drive through banks. At least where I live in Austin, Texas. Shout out to Austin, Texas, by the way, shout out to Rudy's, I've been there. Um, you drive up, put your check in or what have you in the tube and send it inside. Not sure who actually uses them, but they exist. Thanks for making my day with the delightful podcast.

• 16:43Speaker 03

  Well.

• 16:44Speaker 02

  Well, thank you, Stephanie.

• 16:45Speaker 03

  I tell you what, you've made our day.

• 16:48Speaker 02

  You certainly have.

• 16:49Speaker 03

  And I'm interested in these, these drive through banks.

• 16:53Speaker 02

  Yeah, I've been to one.

• 16:54Speaker 03

  Have you?

• 16:55Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 16:56Speaker 03

  Drive up?

• 16:57Speaker 02

  You do, it is like a McDonald's, but it's a bank.

• 16:59Speaker 03

  Wow.

• 17:00Speaker 02

  It's proper odds.

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  Joseph. On we go. As I live and breathe. Well, happy birthday. Thank you. Thank you. Is it your birthday the day this goes out? It's my birthday the day this comes out. Right. I remember when I turned 40. Yeah. There was a little meme of me going around, kind of going, "Oh, can you believe this, lads? 40." Yeah. So if nothing else, I'm a kind of reminder of death to people. Yeah, that's it, yeah. They're basically like, death comes to us all. Yeah, Simon from The Inbetweeners is 40. Yeah. Feel old yet? Yeah, so I don't know what's gonna happen now, because I'm even older. And it's gonna keep happening, but there's nothing I can do. It won't, yeah, no. There's, it will. You can't stop it, can you? I really can't. No. I can't.

• 19:27Speaker 03

  And I shan't. I shan't. Yeah, exactly. I cannot and I will not. I cannot condone and I will not condone and I cannot condone.

• 19:36Speaker 03

  Anyway, happy birthday. Yeah, anyway, so I'm 42 and, uh, don't know really, just, you know. How's it feel? Like I don't know what the fuck I did in my twenties. The amount of time I wasted, the whole years, I just didn't do anything. We were busy in our twenties. That was it. That was when we did all our work, pretty much. I was busy in my twenties. The thirties is the one where I'd like to, I'd like to haul my thirties in and be like, "Sorry, what have you actually been doing?" Yeah. Have a word with yourself. Yeah, you know, I come in, I see that this is the product of your labours.

• 20:13Speaker 03

  Imagine the Cross Street Noel's house party.

• 20:14Speaker 02

  Explain yourself.

• 20:16Speaker 03

  The contestants ran upstairs to get a clue. No, not the game show. Um, so, no, but I mean, I don't, yeah, so the, the decade I've got an issue with is my thirties. I don't know what, I don't know what was happening there. I was still working a bit, but I feel like I was working, and now I feel like I'm working loads.

• 20:31Speaker 02

  Right.

• 20:33Speaker 03

  But I don't like the look of some of the numbers that are coming up.

• 20:37Speaker 02

  No.

• 20:38Speaker 03

  And, um, I really don't like the look of them.

• 20:41Speaker 02

  What, the ones that are coming around the corner there?

• 20:43Speaker 03

  The one with a five at the front.

• 20:45Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 20:48Speaker 03

  Oh, okay. Well, I, but yeah, I'm forty two and I actually have to say I'm, I'm really enjoying my life.

• 20:56Speaker 02

  Good.

• 20:56Speaker 03

  Um, and I, the forties have been really good so far.

• 21:01Speaker 02

  So far?

• 21:02Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 21:03Speaker 02

  Good forties, the naughty forties.

• 21:04Speaker 03

  Then, well, tell you what, just a bit. No, I don't, I don't do anything. But, um,

• 21:14Speaker 03

  um, no, I'm, I'm, I'm enjoying them. I thought, I was gonna say,

• 21:20Speaker 03

  the only decade that was, that could possibly be better, I guess, just the first, like, zero to.

• 21:25Speaker 02

  Zero to ten.

• 21:26Speaker 03

  Zero to ten, because you're just in a wonderful world where your parents protect you from all the bad stuff. But considering I'm now got full exposure to the world.

• 21:36Speaker 02

  I really.

• 21:37Speaker 03

  I'm enjoying it. I like it. I have a nice.

• 21:40Speaker 02

  I don't appreciate zero to ten at all whatsoever.

• 21:42Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 21:43Speaker 02

  I didn't appreciate it at all.

• 21:44Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 21:45Speaker 02

  Because I guess it's all relative, isn't it?

• 21:46Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 21:47Speaker 02

  Everything's relative.

• 21:48Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 21:48Speaker 02

  I was just as stressed out.

• 21:50Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 21:51Speaker 02

  Like when I was seven about stuff as I am now about like mortgages and things like that.

• 21:56Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 21:56Speaker 02

  I was like stressed about not getting the right, um, sticker for my panini sticker book or something. Like that was like, that would keep me up at night. I'll never get that sticker. What the fuck am I gonna do?

• 22:06Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 22:07Speaker 02

  Right?

• 22:07Speaker 03

  Yeah, no, I know what you mean.

• 22:08Speaker 02

  And in my head, that was just as serious as all the actual serious stuff that really keep me up at night these days. I never had a point in my life where I was like, oh, isn't it good? No worries in the world. I was diagnosed with stress when I was eight.

• 22:22Speaker 02

  Went to the doctors. I was having really bad stomach cramps.

• 22:25Speaker 03

  Did you check yourself in?

• 22:27Speaker 02

  I had to go to rehab.

• 22:29Speaker 03

  Hello. Oh, hello.

• 22:32Speaker 02

  No, my mum took me, I was like, I was having these really-

• 22:34Speaker 03

  Were they like, right, you've taken the first step by coming here?

• 22:37Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 22:38Speaker 03

  The hardest part is over, well done. So your mum took you in because you were stressed?

• 22:42Speaker 02

  Yeah, they took all my little, um, I had those little chocolate cigarettes.

• 22:46Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 22:48Speaker 02

  Little chocolate-

• 22:48Speaker 03

  Chocolate cigarettes?

• 22:49Speaker 02

  Little chocolate cigarettes wrapped up in paper.

• 22:50Speaker 03

  Oh, I see, they took them away, yeah.

• 22:51Speaker 02

  They took those off me, they were like, no, you can't have those.

• 22:53Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah.

• 22:55Speaker 02

  Um, no, but I was, actually, they were like, oh, um-

• 22:58Speaker 03

  They call you a cow pole.

• 22:59Speaker 02

  This, this eight-year-old child is stressed.

• 23:03Speaker 03

  I'm very sorry to hear that. And what happened? So what, did they, did they, um, did they, what, did they drug you?

• 23:08Speaker 02

  No, no, they, um-

• 23:10Speaker 03

  No?

• 23:11Speaker 02

  I think I did get some medicine, but they all, they were just like, he's, he's like stressed, this is a symptom of stress.

• 23:17Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 23:18Speaker 02

  They'd asked me what I'd been doing and what I'd been up to, and I was like talking to them about it. I'm like, oh god.

• 23:24Speaker 03

  Oh, it's, I mean, I think what's, I was definitely stressed out as a teenager and as, and, and at university. And I think the thing is, the stress is, you're right to say, the stress is at the same level. It doesn't really matter that it's, you know, what it happens to be about. If someone's, you know, if someone's suffering, they're suffering, aren't they?

• 23:43Speaker 02

  Like if a girl broke my heart at 12 years old.

• 23:46Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 23:46Speaker 02

  I'd, I'd feel exactly the same now if Claire, my actual wife, my mother and my kids-

• 23:52Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 23:52Speaker 02

  Went, oh, this, it's over.

• 23:55Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 23:55Speaker 02

  Like I'd, I, I'd still, like, it's, it's all relative, isn't it?

• 23:59Speaker 03

  Yeah, and I think also-

• 24:00Speaker 02

  I say that to my kids as well, I'd like, I'm like, I do say things to them, like, please don't stress about this now.

• 24:06Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 24:06Speaker 02

  Please don't.

• 24:07Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 24:07Speaker 02

  Because otherwise you will just, because there's loads of stuff to, to, to be stressed over in a few years' time.

• 24:14Speaker 03

  There's stuff to, yeah. But, I mean, it's funny because it is just, you, you have to just take it on trust from your parents, like your, like, they'll just- I remember my dad saying like, you, you will feel better. And it's like, I didn't, I really, it was just because I, I thought, well, he probably knows what he's talking about. But he couldn't really demonstrate it to me from first principles. But I'm, I'm genuinely, I'm, I'm sorry to hear that you were, you know, suffering from these anxieties as a boy, James, and, uh-

• 24:41Speaker 02

  You must have done.

• 24:42Speaker 03

  I, yeah, I did. My teenage years were-

• 24:44Speaker 02

  Well, no, actually, do you know what?

• 24:45Speaker 03

  My teenage years were just me worrying about robots, man.

• 24:48Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 24:48Speaker 03

  That's all that was.

• 24:53Speaker 02

  As it's your birthday.

• 24:54Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 24:55Speaker 02

  I thought that you could go first with your fact.

• 24:58Speaker 03

  Oh, thank you.

• 24:59Speaker 02

  For the day.

• 24:59Speaker 03

  Well, thank you very much. So, um, our facts this week are about Halloween.

• 25:08Speaker 02

  Hmm.

• 25:10Speaker 02

  Well, yeah, we'll wait till we get to one.

• 25:13Speaker 03

  Yeah, loosely.

• 25:14Speaker 02

  Hit me with your facts, Joe.

• 25:15Speaker 03

  Right, here's my fact. So I was thinking about scary films, Halloween. So.

• 25:21Speaker 02

  Brilliant.

• 25:23Speaker 03

  Did you know that The Blair Witch Project? When that premiered at, premiere, when that premiered at Sundance.

• 25:32Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 25:34Speaker 03

  In the production credits, all the actors were listed as like deceased.

• 25:40Speaker 02

  Right.

• 25:40Speaker 03

  And missing.

• 25:41Speaker 02

  Right.

• 25:42Speaker 03

  Which I think is quite amazing.

• 25:43Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 25:44Speaker 03

  Cause it was at a point where you could do that.

• 25:46Speaker 02

  Well.

• 25:46Speaker 03

  You know, it wouldn't work now.

• 25:47Speaker 02

  That's it. The Blair Witch Project is an incredible film.

• 25:52Speaker 03

  It's an amazing film.

• 25:52Speaker 02

  Unfortunately now, cause I was, I was maybe, I knew of it, but I was too young at the time to really appreciate what, what that film had done.

• 26:04Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah.

• 26:05Speaker 02

  I've got friends that are sort of 10 years or so older than me.

• 26:09Speaker 03

  Well, I'm a bit older than you and I think, and I went to see it.

• 26:11Speaker 02

  Right, you went to see it at the cinema. And it was, it was that genuine, is, is this real? Is this actually real?

• 26:20Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 26:21Speaker 02

  Uh, there is a film that did that for me called The Fourth Kind.

• 26:25Speaker 03

  Right, okay.

• 26:27Speaker 02

  And that's a brilliant, brilliant, brilliant.

• 26:29Speaker 03

  Wow, okay.

• 26:30Speaker 02

  Um.

• 26:31Speaker 03

  But with The Blair Witch Project, what was interesting is that they really, really leaned into it. Like they had, they had famously, I think, they had missing posters for the three actors. They had.

• 26:42Speaker 02

  The whole marketing of it was incredible.

• 26:44Speaker 03

  It was very, very clever.

• 26:46Speaker 02

  And also it's a really, really great film.

• 26:47Speaker 03

  And also, yeah.

• 26:49Speaker 02

  If, if, if art, I suppose, is supposed to provoke and it's incredible.

• 26:55Speaker 03

  And it's sort of, I think it wasn't literally the first film to do that kind of.

• 26:59Speaker 02

  Operation Good Guys.

• 27:01Speaker 03

  Operation Good Guys, of course, did, did come, did come first.

• 27:04Speaker 02

  That's always, that's always what happens when I have a conversation with someone about the office.

• 27:07Speaker 03

  Yeah, I know, they're like Operation Good Guys.

• 27:09Speaker 02

  They go Operation Good Guys.

• 27:10Speaker 03

  Yeah, and there was, yeah, yeah. Um, but, um, uh.

• 27:17Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's a, it really, really did kind of push things forward in that respect. They had, they said at one, I was reading an interview with the, with the two directors. And they said that at one point, a member of the police who'd used to serve in that area got in touch with them to be like, do you want some help with the investigation? And it was like, so, and they were, they were like, uh, what are we doing? But it was, it was gen, it was amazing. And um, the actors were, I feel a bit sorry for the actors as well because they made them shoot it themselves as well. So everything in that film is shot by the three actors. And there were times where the directors were saying, yeah, we just wouldn't give them, you know, they, they'd be times where the rest of the crew were like having dinner.

• 28:03Speaker 03

  And what are the actors doing? They were, we don't know. They're in the forest, but they, but they probably found those models that we've made. So like, because they would wake up in the morning and they wouldn't, and the, the, the directors would have just hung those stick things around the tent. To just completely freak them out.

• 28:20Speaker 02

  Right. As an actor, that sounds horrible.

• 28:23Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah.

• 28:24Speaker 02

  That sounds absolutely horrible, but whatever, whatever they did, whatever the, the, the process was, like it, it completely worked.

• 28:34Speaker 03

  They just sailed on the right side of, are you actually maybe mistreating these people a bit? But actually, I, I mean, and, and the advert that, the advert that they initially put in to audition for it, it was like, like very, very challenging.

• 28:52Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah. But I would, I would just say in hindsight, it, it was worth it. If I was an actor in that film, I'd go, this is absolutely worth it.

• 28:59Speaker 03

  And they're all amazing in it.

• 29:00Speaker 02

  And that's what I'm saying, like, when, when that, when was that? Ninety-eight? Nineteen, nineteen-nine?

• 29:06Speaker 03

  Ninety-nine.

• 29:08Speaker 02

  When that came out. It was, it's, it's easy now, twenty five, twenty six years later to sort of maybe go, yeah, they all do it. I mean, I've been in a found footage horror film.

• 29:20Speaker 03

  Right.

• 29:20Speaker 02

  I forgot that.

• 29:23Speaker 02

  I've been in one.

• 29:23Speaker 03

  It's now to the point where we're just forgetting we've been in them.

• 29:27Speaker 02

  You're, you listening, fifty percent of you have probably been in one.

• 29:30Speaker 03

  Yeah, just, yeah. Cast your mind back and you'll be like, oh yeah.

• 29:34Speaker 02

  I think it's just easy to, to not appreciate uh, how groundbreaking that film was.

• 29:41Speaker 03

  Absolutely.

• 29:42Speaker 02

  And I would suggest, I don't know what the certificate of, the, the age certificate of Blair Witch Project is, but if you are fifteen, sixteen, seventeen.

• 29:55Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 29:55Speaker 07

  It's fifteen.

• 29:56Speaker 02

  It's a fifteen.

• 29:57Speaker 03

  It's a fifteen. It's amazing. Yeah.

• 29:59Speaker 02

  If you are around that age and you've not seen it and you don't know anything about it, go and, go and watch it.

• 30:05Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 30:05Speaker 02

  It's, it's, yeah, it's incredible.

• 30:08Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 30:09Speaker 02

  It's so good.

• 30:10Speaker 03

  It was shot for.

• 30:11Speaker 02

  And then go and watch the pyramid afterwards. It's just as good. It was just as good. It's, it's got me running around.

• 30:20Speaker 03

  Don't watch the pyramid first because then.

• 30:22Speaker 02

  No, don't watch the pyramid first. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 30:24Speaker 03

  So high.

• 30:25Speaker 02

  It will spoil the Blair Witch Project for you.

• 30:26Speaker 03

  Which would be a disappointment, but um, yeah, amazing. But made for like twenty five grand or so. It was made for basically the minimum.

• 30:33Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 30:33Speaker 03

  I, that you can really get anything done for.

• 30:35Speaker 02

  That's what's so brilliant about the genre of horror.

• 30:38Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 30:39Speaker 02

  Is that it's.

• 30:40Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 30:40Speaker 02

  I, I genuinely think it really um, brings out.

• 30:45Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 30:45Speaker 02

  Creativity.

• 30:46Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 30:47Speaker 02

  Because usually, usually there isn't a big budget with horror films.

• 30:50Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 30:51Speaker 02

  Um, but they can go on to make more money than other genres. It's absolutely incredible. So like the Blair Witch is one of those. Paranormal Activity, the first Paranormal Activity, absolutely incredible.

• 31:03Speaker 03

  Terrifying.

• 31:04Speaker 02

  I, I don't know what is, like, I don't, how much do they spend on Paranormal Activity? That would have been the same.

• 31:09Speaker 03

  Sixty thousand.

• 31:09Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 31:10Speaker 03

  Yeah, basically just allowing for inflation. It's just basically the same amount. It's basically just, no one's really getting paid.

• 31:15Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 31:16Speaker 03

  You're just meet, you're just meeting your overheads.

• 31:18Speaker 02

  And then it goes on to make like.

• 31:19Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 31:19Speaker 07

  It was fifteen thousand US dollars.

• 31:21Speaker 02

  Fifteen thousand US dollars.

• 31:23Speaker 03

  Fifteen thousand, yeah. That is amazing.

• 31:25Speaker 02

  But it's brilliant. It's absolutely brilliant.

• 31:28Speaker 03

  Yeah. Yeah. And I think I love how horror, I love how horror can do that. It can just make a virtue of scarcity.

• 31:36Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 31:36Speaker 03

  We haven't got anything, but that's why it's so good. Like, we haven't even got a witch, but that's why it's so good.

• 31:41Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 31:41Speaker 03

  Like, it's.

• 31:42Speaker 02

  No, but it's not, no, it's not that so much. It's like, oh, we need the, um, we need the door to slam here or something like that, right?

• 31:50Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 31:51Speaker 02

  And if you were making a Marvel film.

• 31:53Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 31:54Speaker 02

  A superhero made a door slam would just.

• 31:56Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 31:57Speaker 02

  Be a mechanical thing or.

• 31:58Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah.

• 31:59Speaker 02

  Just digitally made, like a CGI thing.

• 32:01Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 32:01Speaker 02

  Whereas they, you can imagine them. They go, well, I've got some fish in line.

• 32:05Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah.

• 32:06Speaker 02

  And, uh, uh, but with so little.

• 32:10Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 32:10Speaker 02

  They create so much. Like, it's really ingenious. So your fact, Joe, is that to keep up the hyper realism.

• 32:18Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 32:19Speaker 02

  Of the Blair Witch Project.

• 32:20Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 32:21Speaker 02

  They, in the end, credits of the film.

• 32:23Speaker 03

  In the production credits at Sundance, when it first, when it first premiered.

• 32:27Speaker 02

  They'd written that all the actors are deceased.

• 32:29Speaker 03

  Deceased or missing. Yeah.

• 32:30Speaker 02

  Amazing, incredible.

• 32:35Speaker 02

  Joe Thomas, as I live and breathe. Uh, it is, it is time for fact check. This is where you send in something that feels like a fact to you

• 32:45Speaker 02

  that you'd like us to confirm.

• 32:47Speaker 03

  Or not.

• 32:48Speaker 02

  Well, yeah, or not, yeah.

• 32:50Speaker 03

  We'll discuss it.

• 32:51Speaker 02

  Cause we're the, uh, the authority in that, right?

• 32:54Speaker 03

  We're the ultimate authority.

• 32:55Speaker 02

  Yeah. So we'll be reading a fact or, or a question that you'd like us to get to the bottom of, which we're always doing.

• 33:03Speaker 03

  Oh, a minute.

• 33:04Speaker 02

  And then, and then we're gonna have a good thing during the break and we'll come back and let you know how true it feels to us. And then decide whether it passes our fact check.

• 33:13Speaker 03

  Yes. So.

• 33:15Speaker 02

  I think you've got the fact this week.

• 33:16Speaker 03

  I've got the, I've got the fact check. This week's fact check comes from Rachel. She said, thank you so much for making this podcast. Not only does it make me proper belly laugh, but I'm learning new things. That's not true. I, yeah, um.

• 33:28Speaker 02

  Is Rachel a real person? Did you write this?

• 33:30Speaker 03

  No, this is real, this is real. So I'm, I'm happy with the idea that she's real.

• 33:37Speaker 03

  I don't mind if it's really like a, you know, a chatbot or something. It's fine. My fact check. Eating cheese at night gives you nightmares. My hus- the husband is adamant that the above fact is incorrect. Even though I'm a massive cheese fan, I'd love to prove him wrong. Thank you again, Rachel.

• 33:58Speaker 02

  All right, well, let's have a quick little break and we'll come back and discuss this further.

• 34:03Speaker 03

  Yeah.

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• 35:11Speaker 04

  Joe and James, Fact-O.

• 35:14Speaker 03

  It's a small town, isn't it, Hollywood? And it's, and it's full.

• 35:19Speaker 02

  Okay, so we're back. We were just talking, we were just talking about Nicolas Cage during the ad break there.

• 35:27Speaker 03

  We were.

• 35:27Speaker 02

  Um, Nicholas, if you're listening, we want you on the podcast because we think you're fascinating.

• 35:31Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 35:32Speaker 02

  Because we've got a couple of your posters on the wall there.

• 35:34Speaker 03

  Con Air. Sleepover, sleepover classic, that one.

• 35:37Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 35:38Speaker 03

  Yeah. Go in a mate's house, watch Con Air. Oh, it's an eighteen. Don't tell my mum. Stick it on.

• 35:45Speaker 02

  Was Conair eighteen?

• 35:46Speaker 03

  Stick it on.

• 35:47Speaker 02

  Suppose it was.

• 35:49Speaker 03

  I think it was in eighteen. I think it's quite violent.

• 35:51Speaker 02

  Um, anyway.

• 35:52Speaker 03

  It doesn't bother me. I love violence.

• 35:54Speaker 02

  It's a fifteen. Thank you.

• 35:56Speaker 03

  It's fifteen.

• 35:56Speaker 02

  Um, Rachel wants to know whether eating cheese at night gives you nightmares. I'm going, I'm just going straight in for it without even talking to you about it.

• 36:06Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah.

• 36:06Speaker 02

  I'm going with it's true.

• 36:08Speaker 03

  I, well, the, they do say that the, you know, the gut is the most, uh,

• 36:17Speaker 02

  Sexiest of the organ.

• 36:18Speaker 03

  Sexiest of the organs.

• 36:21Speaker 02

  That's right. When I see, when I see a lady walking down the street and I think, look at their guts on that.

• 36:30Speaker 03

  Yeah, imagine the intestines and, oh.

• 36:32Speaker 02

  It's the most erotic.

• 36:34Speaker 03

  It's definitely the most erotic, but I think they, don't they say that, what, what's the word I'm looking for? It's the, the most underrated organ.

• 36:42Speaker 02

  Underrated?

• 36:43Speaker 03

  Underrated.

• 36:43Speaker 02

  Doesn't get enough.

• 36:44Speaker 03

  Well, I think as in like people are like, you know, you think the.

• 36:47Speaker 02

  Doesn't get enough respect, the gut.

• 36:48Speaker 03

  Like if, if you're feeling, we've, we've, we've, if you are feeling stressed, people, you know, a lot of people are like, oh, it must be in my head. It must be.

• 36:57Speaker 02

  You are what you eat. People say that a lot, don't they? You are what you eat. What you're putting into your body.

• 37:01Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 37:01Speaker 02

  Is what is, will be the result of where you're at right now.

• 37:04Speaker 03

  Exactly. So, um, there's a, there is a connection between, um, between the gut and the brain.

• 37:11Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 37:11Speaker 03

  I think that, well, I feel like what your diet affects your mind, doesn't it? It must do.

• 37:19Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 37:20Speaker 03

  And if you were, we've all had times where like we maybe haven't eaten, or maybe that's more if we're just ill. But like what you're putting into your body is going to affect your, your mental state.

• 37:28Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 37:30Speaker 03

  I think I'm gonna, I think I'm gonna say that this is, I think basically.

• 37:37Speaker 03

  Hmm, am I though?

• 37:40Speaker 02

  I'm saying, I'm go, I'm, well.

• 37:41Speaker 03

  You're saying yes. I don't know whether, but why cheese? Why would it be cheese?

• 37:45Speaker 02

  I don't know, the, the, the chemical compound of cheese, dairy.

• 37:48Speaker 03

  There is hard, if you have, if you're finding it hard to digest, I suppose what we're saying is if it's, if it's hard to digest, humans aren't, maybe aren't really designed to digest cow's milk. Although weirdly cheese and butter apparently are better for you than just drinking milk. So maybe it's milk that if you just have, imagine the nightmares then, but I, I.

• 38:08Speaker 03

  I don't, hmm.

• 38:09Speaker 02

  You just mainline some milk before you go to bed.

• 38:11Speaker 03

  Okay, what I'm gonna say is.

• 38:12Speaker 02

  Get some mil, get a milk IV.

• 38:14Speaker 03

  Yeah, this is what, this is what.

• 38:16Speaker 02

  Is that what you're suggesting?

• 38:17Speaker 03

  What I'm gonna say is Rachel is, okay, I'm actually gonna zoom in on this bit. I'm a massive cheese fan.

• 38:21Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 38:22Speaker 03

  That's what Rachel said.

• 38:23Speaker 02

  She's a big, she's a big cheese fan.

• 38:24Speaker 03

  She's clearly a cheese fan. She's clearly having nightmares.

• 38:26Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 38:28Speaker 03

  Ergo, cheese gives you nightmares.

• 38:30Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 38:30Speaker 03

  Done.

• 38:32Speaker 02

  I've had a late night pizza.

• 38:34Speaker 03

  Nightmares?

• 38:35Speaker 02

  And I've had weird dreams.

• 38:36Speaker 03

  We used to get a little Domino's, didn't we? When we were doing series two of the, I say a little Domino's, a enormous pizza. And then just for no reason, we'd get like a litre bottle of Coke each.

• 38:43Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 38:43Speaker 03

  And we'd just drink all that.

• 38:44Speaker 02

  No, because it became, it came with the meal deal or something like that.

• 38:48Speaker 03

  Have I already said this about the, about the tip? When I, when I left the tip? The non-tip, I can't remember whether I've said this. I remember we were, we were in the hotel room and you know when the pizza's like.

• 38:58Speaker 02

  This is when we all just sat on a bed, didn't we?

• 39:00Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah.

• 39:00Speaker 02

  Like the football would be on.

• 39:02Speaker 03

  Yeah, I got, yeah, and I remember nothing about this hotel room where, which was, um, but I'll come to that. But like we, we, um, you know, when the pizza's like thirty seven pounds?

• 39:10Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 39:10Speaker 03

  And you give him forty and go, keep the change.

• 39:13Speaker 02

  Keep the change, yeah.

• 39:14Speaker 03

  There was one day where it was forty three.

• 39:16Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 39:16Speaker 03

  And I just got a bit muddled and I gave him forty and went, there you go, that's four, I went, I went, there you go, that's forty. I just closed the door.

• 39:24Speaker 02

  That's how it works.

• 39:26Speaker 03

  I was like.

• 39:26Speaker 02

  That's how it works.

• 39:27Speaker 03

  Well, you got, well, you got the extra three last time. And then you had to say to me, you know what you just did? I was like, what? And you were like, well, you just didn't give him enough money. I was like, oh, he's gone now. But like, because I was confident, because that didn't occur to me. He, he, he was, yeah, he was just like.

• 39:40Speaker 02

  That is how it works sometimes, isn't it?

• 39:42Speaker 03

  Yeah, I know, you just do it confidently.

• 39:43Speaker 02

  You win some, you lose some.

• 39:44Speaker 03

  Yeah, um, and, um, but the, but the, but the other.

• 39:47Speaker 02

  No, but imagine that though, like you're, you're like working for Domino's or something. And the four in between us boys are just

• 39:55Speaker 03

  I know.

• 39:55Speaker 02

  Talking, constantly talking over each other in hotel room.

• 39:58Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 39:59Speaker 02

  So if you do go, like Simon from the in between is gone, there you go, that's forty. He probably was just like so freaked out anyway.

• 40:07Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, it was like, it was weird. But the other thing, I mean, I don't know whether I can, um, but I'll come back to this. Let's finish, let's finish the fact check.

• 40:15Speaker 02

  Go on.

• 40:15Speaker 03

  So the fact check is, I think we're gonna say yes, because I think Rachel, you know, she's, she's done the research effectively. She's clearly having nightmares. She's clearly eating cheese. She wants that to continue. So I say, who am I to tell you that your experience is not valid?

• 40:34Speaker 02

  She would know better than her.

• 40:35Speaker 03

  She knows.

• 40:36Speaker 02

  She literally says that she's a massive cheese fan.

• 40:38Speaker 03

  Yeah, does the husband eat cheese?

• 40:40Speaker 02

  Do you want to know what's a weird fact about me?

• 40:43Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 40:43Speaker 02

  And to do with cheese?

• 40:45Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 40:45Speaker 02

  I don't like cheese unless it's melted.

• 40:47Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 40:48Speaker 02

  What's that all about? If you gave me like a cheese and ham sandwich.

• 40:52Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 40:53Speaker 02

  I'd go, oh, no, thank you. If you gave me a cheese and ham toasty, I'd go, amazing.

• 40:57Speaker 03

  I think it does slightly change taste when it's melted. It becomes, I think some of the sourness goes out.

• 41:02Speaker 02

  Right.

• 41:03Speaker 03

  I don't know why.

• 41:06Speaker 07

  Okay.

• 41:07Speaker 03

  Okay. Um, so we're getting, Lily May.

• 41:10Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 41:10Speaker 03

  We're saying that we say the fact is correct.

• 41:13Speaker 02

  We're saying that's a fact.

• 41:14Speaker 03

  And now we have had some comments that have said they would, they would like to know whether it really is true or not.

• 41:19Speaker 02

  This is where I don't know.

• 41:20Speaker 03

  And so Lily May does know the answer and it's about, are we going to get the answer from her now? Or are we going to choose to remain in our palace of ignorance?

• 41:29Speaker 02

  Is it okay for us to just decide that it's fact or not? Because that's what this podcast is.

• 41:35Speaker 03

  That's the, yeah.

• 41:36Speaker 02

  Or is it really so unsatisfying to the listener?

• 41:42Speaker 02

  Honestly, I'm so paranoid about the comments, Joe.

• 41:44Speaker 03

  I think we're gonna have to, I think, I think, I think we're gonna.

• 41:46Speaker 02

  So paranoid.

• 41:46Speaker 03

  I think, you know, I think.

• 41:48Speaker 02

  You've changed your shoes today because.

• 41:50Speaker 03

  Yeah, I know. Yeah.

• 41:51Speaker 02

  You've felt bullied out of wearing your old trainers.

• 41:53Speaker 03

  Speaking of the comments, sorry, the trainers were like, I don't know. I mean, yeah, I didn't, I didn't realise we were such a shallow group of people. But yeah, so, yeah, yeah, I, I, yeah, so they were a bit threadbare.

• 42:10Speaker 03

  Is that a crime? Apparently it is. You won't see them again. And I'm very sorry that you had to look at them.

• 42:16Speaker 02

  And I'll tell, I will be honest, Joe, right? You have put some shoes on.

• 42:19Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 42:20Speaker 02

  They also do look a bit knackered.

• 42:21Speaker 03

  They're not knackered, they're nice. These are alright. The lace broke actually, to be fair.

• 42:29Speaker 03

  I don't know, it is a bit.

• 42:30Speaker 02

  They need resold.

• 42:31Speaker 03

  Can you see that? I don't think they've resold, no.

• 42:34Speaker 02

  Your soul's coming through. We're seeing the other layer of your soul.

• 42:38Speaker 03

  You don't shit on the bottom there. You don't look, you don't, you don't look at them.

• 42:42Speaker 02

  I'll get you some new shoes. We'll take you out shoe shopping later.

• 42:46Speaker 03

  Alright.

• 42:47Speaker 07

  Did you wanna know the fact?

• 42:49Speaker 02

  Do we wanna know? Do we wanna know? I sort of do.

• 42:52Speaker 03

  I think, I think for today, let's, let's try, let's see what it feels like if we find out. Let's see if we feel better or not. Or do you wanna not find out?

• 43:04Speaker 02

  Only if I'm right.

• 43:07Speaker 03

  Okay, so.

• 43:08Speaker 02

  No, because I know what's gonna happen. Because Lily May has got a laptop in front of her. She's gonna get the actual, and he's gonna say, there is actually no proof that da, da, da, da, da.

• 43:17Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 43:18Speaker 02

  But anecdotal evidence says otherwise.

• 43:20Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 43:20Speaker 02

  That's how I feel.

• 43:21Speaker 03

  Exactly. I've got a laptop in front of me as well. And Rachel says that she's eaten a lot of cheese and she's having.

• 43:26Speaker 02

  That's it.

• 43:27Speaker 03

  Crippling nightmares.

• 43:28Speaker 02

  And if something feels true.

• 43:29Speaker 03

  And she wants that to continue. And I don't know why we have to.

• 43:33Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 43:33Speaker 03

  Kind of.

• 43:34Speaker 02

  Listen, let's just do it. Eating cheese at night gives you nightmares. Fact.

• 43:39Speaker 03

  Right, we're not going to Lily May.

• 43:42Speaker 07

  Fab.

• 43:43Speaker 03

  Sorry.

• 43:44Speaker 07

  That's alright.

• 43:44Speaker 02

  Can we do that?

• 43:45Speaker 07

  We fought for women's rights, so you can ignore it.

• 43:48Speaker 02

  No, well, I was just gonna, I was gonna just say, can I, can I find out whether it's true or not?

• 43:54Speaker 03

  No, I don't think, I don't think we can know. I don't think we can know.

• 43:57Speaker 02

  I do wanna know.

• 43:58Speaker 03

  You can't, we, no, we have to.

• 44:00Speaker 02

  This is gonna niggle me like a loose tooth.

• 44:01Speaker 03

  Well, what you need to do is you need to start eating cheese. Unmelted.

• 44:08Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 44:09Speaker 03

  Go to sleep. See what happens.

• 44:11Speaker 02

  If there's something that you'd like us to fact check, head to our episode's description for all the ways to get in touch.

• 44:18Speaker 03

  Lovely. I sort of went arm over that. Do you wanna do it again?

• 44:21Speaker 02

  That's fine. The people are used to it.

• 44:23Speaker 03

  Okay, fine. Right.

• 44:25Speaker 02

  Right, it's, uh, it's my turn to give you a fact, Joe.

• 44:28Speaker 03

  What spooky fact have you got for us, James?

• 44:30Speaker 02

  Oh no, I panicked. I've got.

• 44:32Speaker 03

  Go on.

• 44:33Speaker 02

  I've got.

• 44:36Speaker 02

  Two little facts and then a story.

• 44:39Speaker 03

  Okay, that's great.

• 44:41Speaker 02

  Because it's Halloween, I thought I'd give you a spooky story.

• 44:43Speaker 03

  I tell you what.

• 44:44Speaker 02

  True story, by the way.

• 44:45Speaker 03

  It is all about the stories.

• 44:47Speaker 02

  I wanted to, I was interested about how other countries celebrate Halloween and if they do.

• 44:52Speaker 03

  Interesting. This is interesting. I don't know why you're feeling.

• 44:55Speaker 02

  I've got a couple here for you.

• 44:57Speaker 03

  This seems interesting.

• 44:58Speaker 02

  In Austria, they leave out bread and water for ghosts.

• 45:02Speaker 03

  Hmm, alright.

• 45:03Speaker 02

  Austrians sometimes leave out bread and water and a lit lamp on Halloween night. The idea is to welcome dead souls visiting earth.

• 45:13Speaker 03

  Interesting, interesting. Bread and water and a lit lamp.

• 45:16Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 45:17Speaker 03

  It's not like, it's not a feast, is it? I mean, bread, like.

• 45:22Speaker 02

  I'd be a bit gutted.

• 45:23Speaker 03

  I'd be a bit annoyed. I've like, I've crossed the divide between dead and living. And in return, I get some water.

• 45:31Speaker 02

  Some bread and water. It's like prisoner's food.

• 45:34Speaker 03

  It is prisoner's food. Is it deliberately water? I would have thought that one of the advantages of being a ghost is you don't really need to eat or drink.

• 45:43Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 45:44Speaker 03

  And a lit lamp.

• 45:44Speaker 02

  You just exist.

• 45:45Speaker 03

  Well, it's nice. It's a kind of, um, it has a sort of, um, modest beauty. This image of the, the bread, the water and the lamp. And, uh, I for one, think that that presents quite a charming tableau.

• 46:01Speaker 02

  Thanks for that, Joe.

• 46:02Speaker 03

  Okay, have you got, um?

• 46:03Speaker 02

  I've never, Joe said tableau. Anyway.

• 46:07Speaker 03

  Tableau.

• 46:07Speaker 02

  In Japan, they have the Kawasaki.

• 46:10Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 46:11Speaker 02

  Uh, other motorbike manufacturers are available. Uh, the Kawasaki Halloween Parade. It's Japan's biggest Halloween celebration. It has over four thousand costumed participants. But you have to apply months in advance to join. No costume, no entry.

• 46:30Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 46:30Speaker 02

  It is described as the Met Gala of Halloween parades.

• 46:35Speaker 03

  So I've never heard of that.

• 46:36Speaker 02

  So I guess it's like the sort of, um. Carnival.

• 46:41Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 46:41Speaker 02

  Of Japan.

• 46:43Speaker 03

  Four thousand participants.

• 46:45Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 46:46Speaker 03

  Sponsored by Kawasaki.

• 46:47Speaker 02

  Sponsored by Kawasaki.

• 46:49Speaker 03

  Always, is that, is that just like sort of?

• 46:51Speaker 02

  It's called the Kawasaki Halloween Parade.

• 46:52Speaker 03

  The, the, um, you know, the Worthington Cup, where it's just their sponsor and so.

• 46:56Speaker 02

  Worthington Cup.

• 46:57Speaker 03

  Does it?

• 46:58Speaker 02

  Do you, do you call it the Worthington Cup? I could, I, it was the Coca-Cola Cup when I was, and then you get people going, it's the milk cup.

• 47:05Speaker 03

  The milk cup. How come milk sponsors something? Milk's not a company.

• 47:08Speaker 02

  I know, it's just milk.

• 47:10Speaker 03

  Well, he's doing what, cows?

• 47:11Speaker 02

  It's like the trees cup.

• 47:12Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 47:14Speaker 02

  This is brought to you by trees. That's my little fact for you, but also I've got a little story for you.

• 47:19Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah.

• 47:19Speaker 02

  A little story for you. Um, the only thing I'm confused about this story.

• 47:25Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 47:25Speaker 02

  Is how old the bloke is.

• 47:27Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 47:29Speaker 02

  I'm just like, really?

• 47:30Speaker 03

  I'm sure that'll turn out to be a minor detail.

• 47:31Speaker 02

  No, it just sort of makes it a little bit. I don't know why, but that, when I read the story, that's, that's the weirdest thing that I took from it.

• 47:39Speaker 03

  Okay, how old is he? Well, how old is he, what, eight thousand?

• 47:42Speaker 02

  No.

• 47:42Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 47:43Speaker 02

  Giles Corey.

• 47:47Speaker 03

  I don't know why I laughed at that. Giles Corey.

• 47:52Speaker 03

  I'll begin.

• 47:53Speaker 02

  This is during, this is during, um, the Salem. Uh, that's what I probably should mention.

• 47:58Speaker 03

  Okay, now it's making sense.

• 48:00Speaker 02

  The, the Salem witch trial things.

• 48:02Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 48:03Speaker 02

  Um, Giles Corey was an eighty one year old farmer.

• 48:06Speaker 03

  Okay. How much farming is he getting done? Is that your question?

• 48:10Speaker 02

  Yeah, well, that just stuck with me.

• 48:11Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 48:12Speaker 02

  The whole, when I was reading this story, that was like, everything, everything, I was like, he's eighty one.

• 48:15Speaker 03

  Farm, mm, killing your own fields, are you Giles?

• 48:18Speaker 02

  Giles Corey was.

• 48:19Speaker 03

  Always your grandson doing it.

• 48:21Speaker 02

  We're getting told off for this, let me do my story.

• 48:22Speaker 03

  Sorry.

• 48:23Speaker 02

  Giles Corey was an eighty one year old farmer, gruff, stubborn and a bit of a local troublemaker. So, do you know what I mean? I was always like, how much trouble is an eighty one year old?

• 48:34Speaker 07

  This is meant to be quite spooky, so I think it's just...

• 48:36Speaker 02

  It's spooky, sorry, this is spooky.

• 48:37Speaker 03

  Oh, sorry, sorry.

• 48:38Speaker 02

  Sorry, I'm ruining it. He'd been fined before for fights and disputes, but nothing that hinted at witchcraft.

• 48:46Speaker 02

  Until the hysteria hit. When his wife, Martha Corey, was accused of being a witch, Giles stood by her at first. But when he publicly questioned the court's logic, the afflicted girls, afflicted girls, sorry, in quotation marks, turned on him too. So for some reason, he was trying to stick up for witches and the afflicted girls, that's what they called it.

• 49:13Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 49:13Speaker 02

  Had a problem with him. And suddenly Giles Corey was branded a witch. Now, I'm not 100% sure what happened, but he stood by his wife and it...

• 49:24Speaker 03

  Yeah, and then...

• 49:25Speaker 02

  They turned on him.

• 49:25Speaker 03

  Then the afflicted, okay.

• 49:27Speaker 02

  So during his interrogation, he refused to enter a plea. Not guilty, so guilty, not guilty, nothing. He refused to enter a plea because he was all about the logic of the courts, right?

• 49:40Speaker 03

  Right.

• 49:41Speaker 02

  He'd seen what had happened to others, confess and die, deny it and still die.

• 49:47Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 49:47Speaker 02

  But if he said nothing, his property couldn't be taken by the court, meaning it would go to his sons instead of the colony. So Giles chose silence and silence became his weapon.

• 50:01Speaker 03

  Interesting.

• 50:02Speaker 02

  That's it, that's all that story is.

• 50:03Speaker 03

  No, I say, okay, so his property...

• 50:06Speaker 02

  He neither denied or confirmed that he was a witch. And because he didn't put in a plea...

• 50:12Speaker 03

  Okay, okay. So hang on.

• 50:15Speaker 02

  Because he knew, he knew at the time, it was like, well, if you're gonna get accused of being a witch, then you're fucked.

• 50:20Speaker 03

  If you say you're a witch...

• 50:21Speaker 02

  There's no winning there.

• 50:23Speaker 03

  Well, it's that thing, isn't it, where you go, "I'm not a witch", and they go, "That's what a witch would say."

• 50:28Speaker 02

  That's exactly what a witch would say.

• 50:29Speaker 03

  So what can you do?

• 50:30Speaker 02

  I think a witch was just a code for like, a woman that like, had an opinion.

• 50:35Speaker 03

  I think that's basically correct.

• 50:36Speaker 02

  That's sort of what they did.

• 50:37Speaker 03

  I went to see, I went to see a horror film once and it was like, oh, centuries ago, they hanged a local woman as a witch and now the area is cursed. And I thought the demon was gonna be...

• 50:55Speaker 03

  She wasn't a witch, because there's no such thing as witches. They just hanged an innocent woman and now she's haunting them.

• 51:01Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 51:03Speaker 03

  Not at all. The denouement was.

• 51:05Speaker 02

  What do you keep saying there?

• 51:07Speaker 03

  Denouement, sorry. As in, as in the kind of the bit where you kind of realise, realise what's, what's.

• 51:12Speaker 02

  You said it once.

• 51:13Speaker 03

  So, yeah, yeah.

• 51:13Speaker 02

  And I was like, I must, I must just not be listening.

• 51:16Speaker 03

  The end, the ending. It's kind of the ending or the bit, the bit where, the bit where all the threads come together.

• 51:21Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 51:21Speaker 03

  So I thought.

• 51:22Speaker 02

  You can say premise.

• 51:22Speaker 03

  Premise. Well, it's not really the premise, because the premise is more like, it's the bit where the, it's the bit where the premise is.

• 51:28Speaker 03

  It's the bit where everything comes together.

• 51:29Speaker 02

  Sorry. Denouement.

• 51:31Speaker 03

  So denouement. I thought, I thought it was gonna be the, this.

• 51:36Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 51:36Speaker 03

  Um, this lady who hadn't done anything was, was wrongly hanged and now was sort of justifiably haunting them.

• 51:44Speaker 02

  To, for, for revenge, right?

• 51:46Speaker 03

  And it wasn't that, at all. It was like, no, she was a witch.

• 51:50Speaker 02

  Right.

• 51:51Speaker 03

  And now she's back.

• 51:52Speaker 02

  Well.

• 51:52Speaker 03

  And it, and it was like, well, hang on a minute.

• 51:54Speaker 02

  We did a similar thing in The Inbetweeners.

• 51:56Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 51:56Speaker 02

  Because there was always like those rumours when you were at school.

• 51:59Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 52:00Speaker 02

  You know, there was, you know, oh, that, that teacher is a pedo.

• 52:03Speaker 03

  Yeah. Oh, yeah.

• 52:04Speaker 02

  And that was what the whole episode was of The Inbetweeners.

• 52:06Speaker 03

  Yeah. It was like, of course he's not, he's not really a pedophile.

• 52:08Speaker 02

  Obviously he's not a pedophile. Your kids are just calling him a pedophile.

• 52:11Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah.

• 52:11Speaker 02

  Turns out, the teacher that we did keep calling a pedophile in The Inbetweeners was just a pedophile. And still to this day, I go, where's the joke? Like, where is the joke there?

• 52:23Speaker 02

  Cause I thought it was like rumours around school that everyone says.

• 52:26Speaker 03

  Exactly, yeah.

• 52:27Speaker 02

  They're definitely not true.

• 52:28Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, you know.

• 52:30Speaker 02

  And it was like, oh, that teacher's a pedo. But then in our episode of The Inbetweeners, like he, like that teacher, what's his, what's he called?

• 52:36Speaker 03

  Pedro Kennedy.

• 52:37Speaker 02

  Pedro Kennedy. He ends up like.

• 52:39Speaker 03

  They should have known with that when he applied. They'd be like, wait a minute. Okay, so thanks for coming in.

• 52:43Speaker 02

  He starts like stroking Neil's legs and making sure he's tucked in at night and stuff like that. It's like, oh, the joke is that he's a pedophile.

• 52:50Speaker 03

  Yeah, no, we've, we, we flipped on that. We thought he was in the end.

• 52:54Speaker 02

  So it was that, it was that sort of thing?

• 52:56Speaker 03

  Yeah, it was that. Yeah, it was.

• 52:57Speaker 02

  On that note, shall we say goodbye? I'm all fact out, Joe.

• 53:01Speaker 03

  I'm all fact out. What have we learned today?

• 53:03Speaker 02

  We have learned that in the premiere screening at the Sundance Festival with Blair Witch Project, to keep authenticity, the credits during, when they rolled the credits, they wrote that all the actors were either deceased or missing.

• 53:19Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 53:20Speaker 02

  And we've also learned that Australians leave out bread and water for ghosts on Halloween.

• 53:25Speaker 03

  Was it Austria?

• 53:26Speaker 02

  Austria. What did I say?

• 53:27Speaker 03

  Australians.

• 53:28Speaker 02

  Oh, did I say Australians?

• 53:29Speaker 03

  Doesn't matter. Also, I don't think it was-

• 53:31Speaker 02

  Literally a joke from Dumb and Dumber?

• 53:32Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 53:33Speaker 02

  Oh, no.

• 53:34Speaker 03

  Also, I don't think it was when they rolled the credits. It was more like when they submitted the documents for them. But it might have been, because in the end, because with credits, you don't actually put, like, still alive.

• 53:45Speaker 02

  We hope that you've learned something or had a nice time. But we'll be back next week with some more facts, chats and vampire bats.

• 53:52Speaker 03

  Oh.

• 53:54Speaker 02

  Don't forget that you can get in touch with us if you would like us to fact check something for you. Just a little recap there. Eating cheese before bed does give you nightmares. Fact. That is a fact. Email us, [email protected] or you can send us a WhatsApp. Have we had any WhatsApps yet?

• 54:12Speaker 07

  Loads.

• 54:13Speaker 02

  Have we had any voice notes?

• 54:15Speaker 07

  Yes.

• 54:16Speaker 02

  I'd like to encourage that. I think voice notes are funnier for some reason.

• 54:19Speaker 07

  Yep.

• 54:20Speaker 02

  Our WhatsApp number is 07822034330. And you can follow us on social media at Joe and James Pod. And if you've forgotten that, just all that information is in the podcast description. Thank you, Joe.

• 54:34Speaker 03

  Thank you, James.

• 54:35Speaker 02

  And thank you, Lily May.

• 54:37Speaker 07

  You're welcome.

• 54:38Speaker 02

  And we'll see you all next week. Goodbye.

• 54:40Speaker 03

  Bye.

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