Pod Insights Joe and James Fact Up Joe And A Show About this episode This week, Joe Thomas and James Buckley discuss the original Inbetweeners pilot and should James have played every role? James grills Joe on why he's been going on dates with a guy from his 5 a side team and James educates Joe on 'Aura farming'.
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1:03 Speaker 02 Let's do it.
1:04 Speaker 03 All right, should we do another episode of this podcast?
1:06 Speaker 02 Yeah, come on, let's, uh, let's, uh, do another one.
1:09 Speaker 03 Here we go. Ah, Joe and James.
1:13 Speaker 04 Joe and James. It's fucked up again. Joe and James, Joe and James, Joe and James, Joe and James, fucked up!
1:22 Speaker 03 Something that we need to remember.
1:23 Speaker 02 Yeah.
1:24 Speaker 03 Obviously, we don't hear it when we make.
1:25 Speaker 02 Yeah.
1:26 Speaker 03 When we record these things.
1:27 Speaker 02 We're coming off the back of that song, aren't we?
1:29 Speaker 03 That intro, yeah, that's, that theme song that we've got.
1:32 Speaker 02 In my head, we're coming off the back of like the Newsnight music or something.
1:35 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:35 Speaker 02 But I know that that's not what it sounds like.
1:37 Speaker 03 I'd like it to be the Crystal Maze song.
1:40 Speaker 02 Yeah.
1:46 Speaker 02 What a show that was, by the way.
1:47 Speaker 03 Fucking brilliant.
1:48 Speaker 02 Unbelievable.
1:49 Speaker 03 They tried to bring it back, didn't they? It was old Merchant. Don't want to keep talking about Merchant on this podcast. But they got Stephen Merchant to, um, host a special, like a sort of a charity special version of the Crystal Maze.
2:02 Speaker 02 It should have.
2:02 Speaker 03 Did he wear a bald cap? Did he wear a bald wig?
2:07 Speaker 02 I suppose I have to say.
2:08 Speaker 03 Is there such a thing as a bald wig?
2:10 Speaker 02 Um.
2:13 Speaker 02 So they were trying to simulate as he bring back the Crystal Maze and launch for the first time, the bald wig.
2:18 Speaker 03 Yeah.
2:19 Speaker 02 They were like, this is the time to do guilty birds at one stone.
2:24 Speaker 04 They brought it back with Richard O'Arden as well.
2:27 Speaker 03 They did, yeah.
2:28 Speaker 02 They did.
2:29 Speaker 03 See, the thing is, right, I'm a big Crystal Maze fan and I don't, and I don't know much about it.
2:34 Speaker 02 Yeah.
2:34 Speaker 03 There's something going wrong. Do you remember during the first series of The Inbetweeners, where you lived across the road from Richard O'Arden?
2:41 Speaker 02 Yeah, and we, um.
2:42 Speaker 03 You were Simon Bird.
2:43 Speaker 02 Yeah.
2:43 Speaker 03 Would come in and tell us that you'd seen him go to his house.
2:46 Speaker 02 I know, it was kind of weird. We used to sort of watch him. We'd be like, he's going up the stairs now, it'll come back into vision now. Now he's on the first floor.
2:53 Speaker 03 But to be fair, it was just off the back of like Garth Marenghi and Man to Man with Dean Lerner and stuff like that.
3:01 Speaker 02 Yeah.
3:01 Speaker 03 And we were obsessed with that.
3:02 Speaker 02 Yeah.
3:02 Speaker 03 We were so obsessed with Garth Marenghi especially.
3:06 Speaker 02 Yeah.
3:06 Speaker 03 Hey, I should probably intro this, actually. We've started, we've.
3:10 Speaker 02 No, we're all right.
3:10 Speaker 03 We've gone, we've gone, uh, we've, we've bare backed into this.
3:14 Speaker 02 Never apologise, never apologise.
3:15 Speaker 03 Welcome to Joe and James Fact Up. Each week we'll be bringing one another a fact that we deem interesting. And of course, our policy is that the more interesting it is, the more true it must be.
3:25 Speaker 02 Yep.
3:25 Speaker 03 That's the only rule. We will unpack it, debate it, and then probably, as you, if you're, if you're listening to this show for the first time, start talking about anything else. Um, we'll also dig into the weird things that you'd like to think are true, but you can't be bothered to do the research yourself. So we'll decide whether it's true or not without any, again, we can't be bothered to do the research either.
3:49 Speaker 02 We made it clear, we will have a good think.
3:50 Speaker 03 We'll have a good think about it. Uh, we're calling that fact check.
3:53 Speaker 02 And that's as much as you can ask from anyone in this world of ours.
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4:33 Speaker 02 Yep.
4:34 Speaker 03 And if, if, if you didn't understand anything I said just then, um, all that information will be in the podcast description.
4:40 Speaker 02 Yeah.
4:40 Speaker 03 Now, Joe. Let's get fucked up.
4:47 Speaker 03 Joe, how are you, mate? Are you good?
4:49 Speaker 02 Yeah, I'm good, thanks.
4:50 Speaker 03 You had a good, you had a good week?
4:52 Speaker 02 Yeah, I've had a good week.
4:53 Speaker 03 Since the last episode that we recorded.
4:55 Speaker 02 Yes.
4:57 Speaker 02 Yeah, I've, um, yeah, oh, what a, what a week.
5:01 Speaker 03 So much has changed, doesn't it?
5:02 Speaker 02 So much, and yet so much has stayed the same.
5:04 Speaker 03 I've been working, um, with, with a friend of ours, actually.
5:08 Speaker 02 Oh, yeah.
5:08 Speaker 03 Spenney. Spencer Millman.
5:11 Speaker 02 Spencer Millman, producer of, um.
5:14 Speaker 03 The second Inbetweeners film.
5:15 Speaker 02 Inbetweeners film.
5:16 Speaker 03 Yeah.
5:16 Speaker 02 Yeah.
5:16 Speaker 03 Producer of the Inbetweeners pilot.
5:19 Speaker 02 Yeah. Joe, he just topped and tailed it, didn't he?
5:21 Speaker 03 He did, he did.
5:23 Speaker 02 Why did he do that? Why was he doing the middle?
5:25 Speaker 03 I was speaking to him about it, actually, during that, because he did, he did, um, he did produce the pilot of the Inbetweeners.
5:31 Speaker 02 Yeah.
5:31 Speaker 03 And I was in that pilot.
5:32 Speaker 02 Yes, you were.
5:33 Speaker 03 I was the only one of our, uh, uh, us boys that was in it.
5:35 Speaker 02 And you were playing Neil, weren't you?
5:36 Speaker 03 I was playing Neil in the pilot. Weird. And, um.
5:38 Speaker 02 Did you hope to play all the other characters at some point?
5:40 Speaker 03 I, I, I was, I, at one point, I thought I was gonna play them all.
5:43 Speaker 02 Yeah.
5:44 Speaker 03 I was just like, I'll fucking do it all.
5:45 Speaker 02 Yeah, they were like, well, you.
5:46 Speaker 03 I'll do like an Eddie Murphy thing.
5:47 Speaker 02 Yeah, yeah.
5:50 Speaker 03 I'll just do that. Um, but I, uh.
5:53 Speaker 02 You could play like Will's mum as well.
5:55 Speaker 03 Absolutely. Why not? Yeah, of course. I did, uh, who else does? Sandler. He does a bit of that, doesn't he? Where he plays more than one character in a film.
6:03 Speaker 02 Yes.
6:04 Speaker 03 What's that thing where he plays like a man and a woman or something? It doesn't matter. I can tell by your face that we're not gonna, that you don't know what I'm talking about. Well, instantly.
6:15 Speaker 02 No, was it, my eyes just went completely.
6:18 Speaker 03 Yeah.
6:21 Speaker 03 Um, but I've been working with Spencer Millman. I've also been working with, uh, Anthony, Tony.
6:28 Speaker 02 Anthony Wilcox.
6:30 Speaker 03 Wilcox.
6:32 Speaker 02 That's his surname, isn't it? Anthony Cox, Anthony Wilcox.
6:35 Speaker 03 Is it Wilcox? Coxey, old Coxey, old big Cox.
6:38 Speaker 02 Well, the, ah, the, the big dangling cock.
6:42 Speaker 03 Big veiny cocks.
6:43 Speaker 02 The big, yeah.
6:43 Speaker 03 Yeah. No, I've been working with him and you.
6:45 Speaker 02 Does he? I play football with him.
6:46 Speaker 03 You play football with him?
6:47 Speaker 02 He's the goalkeeper in our team.
6:49 Speaker 03 He told me a little thing about you, Joe.
6:50 Speaker 02 Oh, yeah.
6:50 Speaker 03 He gave me a little story about you.
6:52 Speaker 02 Yeah, go on.
6:52 Speaker 03 And I was going, he's mental. He's fucking insane. I need to have a word with Joe.
6:57 Speaker 02 Right.
6:58 Speaker 03 I need to talk to him.
6:58 Speaker 02 Right.
6:59 Speaker 03 So apparently you're on the same team as him, right?
7:02 Speaker 02 Yeah, I am, yeah.
7:03 Speaker 03 And there's another team that's a bit of a rival of you guys. You know what I'm talking about?
7:06 Speaker 02 Yeah, I do. I don't know what this, I know what this story is. Yeah.
7:09 Speaker 03 Is it? Is it? Is it okay to talk about this?
7:11 Speaker 02 Yeah, you can talk about it. Yeah, yeah.
7:12 Speaker 03 Because it is insane.
7:13 Speaker 02 It is quite funny. Yeah.
7:15 Speaker 03 Right. So Joe plays football for a team, what is it, a five-a-side team?
7:21 Speaker 02 Yeah.
7:21 Speaker 03 And you've, you guys have got like a rival team or something. You play each other a couple of times a year.
7:25 Speaker 02 Yeah, yeah.
7:26 Speaker 03 And, um, and usually what happens, because you're, you're a big shot, aren't you? You're a big, big time star. You're on the in-betweens.
7:31 Speaker 02 Yeah.
7:31 Speaker 03 Usually what happens after the game is people will ask if they can have a picture with you.
7:35 Speaker 02 They can.
7:35 Speaker 03 And you're always.
7:36 Speaker 02 I'm always obliged.
7:37 Speaker 03 You're always more than happy to do that. One guy, uh, asked for a picture with you, had a picture with you, and then just started getting chatting to you.
7:43 Speaker 02 Yeah.
7:44 Speaker 03 And then he said, we should go for a drink sometime.
7:48 Speaker 02 Yeah.
7:49 Speaker 03 And you said yes.
7:50 Speaker 02 Yeah.
7:50 Speaker 03 Right?
7:51 Speaker 02 Yeah.
7:52 Speaker 03 So then a little bit later, you, so you exchanged phone numbers then? Is that what happened?
7:57 Speaker 02 Um, yeah, we did exchange phone numbers then. Yeah.
8:00 Speaker 03 So then a little bit later, he said to you, I'm going for a drink tonight. Do you want to meet me at this pub? We'll have a couple of pints. It'll be, it'll be a good laugh.
8:08 Speaker 02 Yeah.
8:08 Speaker 03 And you were like, yep, sure, I'll be there. And you turned up to the pub.
8:12 Speaker 02 Yeah.
8:12 Speaker 03 And he was there with a date.
8:15 Speaker 02 Yeah, this is true. Yeah.
8:16 Speaker 03 Um, and basically what I've pieced together.
8:21 Speaker 02 Yeah.
8:22 Speaker 03 Is that some bloke who you've just met, a fan, some fan that you've just met, you've gone, let's go, yeah, let's go for a pint together.
8:30 Speaker 02 Yeah.
8:30 Speaker 03 And he's arranged a date and tried to impress this girl by saying, I know Joe Thomas from the Inbetweeners. In fact, I can get him to turn up tonight if you like.
8:39 Speaker 02 Yeah.
8:39 Speaker 03 And she's gone, go on then. And you've turned up on a date to try, uh, because this bloke's trying to impress a girl, right? Is that, is that what happened?
8:47 Speaker 02 It is true.
8:47 Speaker 03 Right?
8:48 Speaker 02 And, and.
8:48 Speaker 03 Hang on.
8:49 Speaker 02 Yeah.
8:49 Speaker 03 It gets worse though, doesn't it?
8:50 Speaker 02 Yeah, it does get worse. Yeah.
8:51 Speaker 03 Right? So after that situation, you go, if I was you, Joe, you go, maybe I shouldn't just give my number out to fans of the Inbetweeners, right? And God bless them. We love them, don't we? We can't, like, anyone that loves the Inbetweeners.
9:04 Speaker 02 And I wouldn't.
9:05 Speaker 03 And I talk to people off the street.
9:06 Speaker 02 Very much at all.
9:07 Speaker 03 I, I spend a lot of time talking to people about the Inbetweeners, having pictures with people every day of my life. And I've got no problem with it.
9:15 Speaker 02 They're brilliant.
9:15 Speaker 03 I don't, I probably am not, and I don't think they'd expect this from me.
9:19 Speaker 02 No, they wouldn't. No.
9:20 Speaker 03 I'm not gonna meet up for a pint with you, right?
9:23 Speaker 02 No. And also, not, I suppose it's not even just meeting up for a pint. It was the fact that to some extent I was the third wheel.
9:33 Speaker 03 Absolutely, yeah. You turned up, you turned up on this guy's date.
9:36 Speaker 02 Yeah.
9:36 Speaker 03 But it's to make him look good, right? To impress a girl.
9:39 Speaker 02 Yeah, I didn't realise this.
9:40 Speaker 03 So you learn a lesson there, don't you?
9:42 Speaker 02 You can do it.
9:43 Speaker 03 You can do, can't you?
9:45 Speaker 02 You can do.
9:45 Speaker 03 You can even learn a lesson.
9:47 Speaker 02 Yeah.
9:47 Speaker 03 Or you can do the exact same thing a couple of weeks later.
9:50 Speaker 02 Yeah. Yeah, I know. And also, um.
9:54 Speaker 03 Stop turning up to this bloke's dates.
9:56 Speaker 02 I know, but also, and also it was, it was always a different girl.
10:00 Speaker 03 I know.
10:01 Speaker 02 So it was different.
10:02 Speaker 03 Yeah. He was, he was, he was putting it about, trying to impress all these girls, saying, I know Simon from the Inbetweeners. In fact, I'll get him to turn up to this date. And he's gone, he's done it once before. I wonder if I'll get him to do it again. And you fucking, you fucking did.
10:19 Speaker 02 I know. It took several, um.
10:24 Speaker 03 Do you still talk to this guy?
10:25 Speaker 02 No. Well, no, just.
10:26 Speaker 03 No, that's the right answer. Don't say no as if that's a bad thing.
10:29 Speaker 02 Well, no, I mean.
10:30 Speaker 03 No, that's the right answer. Listen, my.
10:32 Speaker 02 They were just, it was quite.
10:35 Speaker 03 You're gonna defend this guy now, aren't you?
10:36 Speaker 02 I'm not gonna defend him. I just, it, I think it was just about that.
10:39 Speaker 03 Stockholm syndrome sometimes.
10:42 Speaker 02 I do, I did think it's, these are funny evenings because like we.
10:47 Speaker 03 Well, you did it for the crack.
10:48 Speaker 02 We all, no, no, I mean that they've to, to some extent peculiar evenings because we would all like have drinks together, but then I would just go home and then sometimes they would go to like the theatre or something or they'd, they'd go on to do something else. So it was like, I was the first bit, but then he was like, it was almost like, he was, I'll book something else as well. So it's like, it won't, it won't, it won't just be Joe. I'll have a backup.
11:21 Speaker 03 Right, of course. So you're there early in the evening to get, to get the, to get the date all nice and impressed. And then he goes, thanks for that, Joe. I'll see you later. We're off to the theatre now.
11:33 Speaker 02 I think the most embarrassing thing is that it did take like a number of occasions for me to really realise what was going on. And, um.
11:44 Speaker 03 See, this is my, this is why I worry about you, Joe. Because you are, you're a people pleaser.
11:49 Speaker 02 I am a people pleaser.
11:50 Speaker 03 You don't like upsetting people. Someone says to you, oh, I really love the in betweeners. You're so good in that show. Would you like to go for a pint sometimes? Sometime. You go, yes, here's my number. You've got to stop doing that. Right. Just for, just for security as well. Like, I don't wanna.
12:09 Speaker 02 Yeah, yeah.
12:10 Speaker 03 Just as your mate, right? Stop giving your number out. Don't get me wrong. I'm sure he was a nice guy.
12:16 Speaker 02 He was a nice guy. And.
12:18 Speaker 03 But he's taken advantage of you there. He's taken advantage of your good nature.
12:21 Speaker 02 Probably was a little bit, yeah. A little bit. But, but I suppose, um, like, it would, I mean, I.
12:31 Speaker 03 Go on.
12:33 Speaker 02 In a way, you're like.
12:36 Speaker 02 You know, I'm slightly flattered that I was considered like part of the entertainment. And then the theatre, it was like Joe and a show.
12:42 Speaker 03 Joe and a show.
12:43 Speaker 02 Um, so that's uh, just a classic.
12:48 Speaker 03 Do you reckon he's on uh, uh Tinder? Do you reckon he's on Tinder going, um?
12:54 Speaker 02 I think it.
12:55 Speaker 03 Fancy Joe and a show tonight, babe?
12:57 Speaker 02 Is it, is it like, um, yeah. Yeah, it's Netflix and chill, isn't it?
13:02 Speaker 03 Yeah.
13:02 Speaker 02 Yeah.
13:03 Speaker 03 Joe and a show.
13:04 Speaker 02 Yeah, yeah. Um, yeah, no, this, this actually, um, this is true. And, and, um, yeah, it just, I, I, I'm oft, I, I wasn't. It took me a long time genuinely to clock on to the other element of the evening.
13:19 Speaker 03 I'll tell you something about you, Joe, and I love you, and you're one of my favourite people in the world. You're very, very intelligent. You're an intelligent guy. Well, you not got sunshine, street smarts.
13:28 Speaker 02 I think that's true.
13:29 Speaker 03 You're not got those at all whatsoever.
13:31 Speaker 02 No, I don't know. No.
13:32 Speaker 03 And then you end up in those situations. Next time, can you just talk to me first?
13:37 Speaker 02 Yeah, yeah.
13:39 Speaker 03 Just go, oh, some fan of the in-betweeners.
13:43 Speaker 02 Yeah.
13:43 Speaker 03 I've just played football against him. He wants to go for a pint. Should I do it or not? And I go, do you know what, mate? Leave it.
13:49 Speaker 02 Yeah, yeah.
13:50 Speaker 04 What happened when you turned up? Like, do you literally get up a pint and sit down with the two of you?
13:55 Speaker 02 Yeah, yeah, it was me and these, and this dad, basically.
13:58 Speaker 03 Yeah, well, dates, weren't they?
14:00 Speaker 02 Dates, it was, it was, yeah, it was, um.
14:03 Speaker 03 Cause he had a different girl like a couple of weeks after it happened the first time.
14:06 Speaker 02 Yeah.
14:06 Speaker 03 I can't believe you went back.
14:07 Speaker 02 Yeah, yeah, I know. Um.
14:11 Speaker 03 What did you say to Hannah?
14:13 Speaker 02 Oh, I.
14:14 Speaker 03 I gotta go, I'm, I'm out, I'm off out tonight.
14:17 Speaker 02 Hannah was, I mean, Hannah, Hannah would have been like, she's a lot more sensible than me.
14:22 Speaker 03 Yeah.
14:22 Speaker 02 She would have been like, probably what would have happened is that.
14:28 Speaker 02 I just wouldn't have mentioned to begin with.
14:30 Speaker 03 Sure.
14:31 Speaker 02 Like, so it would have taken maybe a couple of times and then Hannah would have said, what actually happens on these evenings? And I would have, and I would have said, well, it's just your normal evening, you know, me, him, and, and, and the woman. And then she would have been like, sorry.
14:44 Speaker 03 Yeah.
14:45 Speaker 02 What does he mean? And I said, well, no, he just always brings the woman.
14:48 Speaker 03 But your whole thing, your whole thing is, well, I said yes now.
14:52 Speaker 02 I know, I'm really bad.
14:53 Speaker 03 I've heard so many times where you've said that.
14:55 Speaker 02 Yeah.
14:55 Speaker 03 Where I've gone to you, don't, why are you doing that? Don't do that. And you go, well, I told him I would.
15:00 Speaker 02 I know.
15:00 Speaker 03 I go, well, so you can't.
15:04 Speaker 02 Sometimes in life, it seems as though.
15:06 Speaker 03 You're a man of your word. You've got to respect that.
15:09 Speaker 02 I'm like George Washington.
15:11 Speaker 03 You are. Cannot tell a lie.
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17:03 Speaker 03 Joe?
17:04 Speaker 02 Hello.
17:04 Speaker 03 It's time to do a little fact.
17:06 Speaker 02 Yes, let's do it.
17:08 Speaker 03 Sexy little fact. I'm gonna go first this week.
17:10 Speaker 02 Yep.
17:11 Speaker 03 I've actually got it written down on my phone.
17:13 Speaker 02 Okay.
17:15 Speaker 03 Because last week, we were body shamed.
17:19 Speaker 02 Yes.
17:21 Speaker 03 We were cruelly body shamed at work.
17:24 Speaker 02 Yeah.
17:25 Speaker 03 Which I am, which has cut me deep.
17:28 Speaker 02 By a colleague. We won't say who it is because it's still on.
17:30 Speaker 03 Which is.
17:31 Speaker 02 It's still ongoing.
17:32 Speaker 03 Absolutely. Yeah, there's a trivia. It did, it did cut me deep, but luckily enough, not deep enough. Because apparently I'm so fat.
17:41 Speaker 02 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
17:43 Speaker 03 You're not fat.
17:46 Speaker 02 Oh, you know, we, to be, it was, we were calling ourselves fat, weren't we?
17:49 Speaker 03 We were calling ourselves fat. So we thought we would do some facts about fat.
17:55 Speaker 02 Yeah, yes, that's what we're gonna do.
17:57 Speaker 03 And I'm gonna go first.
17:59 Speaker 02 Okay, let's do it.
17:59 Speaker 03 So, Joe.
18:01 Speaker 02 Yeah.
18:01 Speaker 03 Has anyone, I mean, you're very well proportioned, you're very handsome.
18:05 Speaker 02 Thanks very much.
18:06 Speaker 03 You are fucking, you are the, the Paul McCartney of the in-betweens.
18:09 Speaker 02 Yeah.
18:10 Speaker 03 That's fair to say.
18:11 Speaker 02 Yep.
18:11 Speaker 03 All the girls fancied you. But have you ever been called fat, fat head?
18:18 Speaker 02 No.
18:19 Speaker 03 No. But, but you'd, you'd consider that a derogatory term, right? You'd be like, oh, it's fat head.
18:24 Speaker 02 Yeah.
18:24 Speaker 03 You got a fat head, right?
18:26 Speaker 02 That is, yeah, yeah, that's.
18:27 Speaker 03 If anyone, if anyone does, if anyone does call you fat head.
18:30 Speaker 02 Oh, I can turn around and say.
18:31 Speaker 03 Actually say.
18:32 Speaker 02 Oh, well, excuse me, sir.
18:33 Speaker 03 Thank you for that.
18:34 Speaker 02 Yes.
18:35 Speaker 03 Thanks for that.
18:35 Speaker 02 Yeah.
18:36 Speaker 03 Because the human brain is about 60% fat.
18:41 Speaker 02 Fuck off!
18:43 Speaker 03 So if you are a fat head, it just means you've got more brain, baby.
18:47 Speaker 02 Oh, shitting shit the bed.
18:50 Speaker 03 I wish I knew that when I was in primary school.
18:51 Speaker 02 Oh my god, well.
18:53 Speaker 03 It's comebacks like that that would have got me so popular.
18:55 Speaker 02 Fucking hell.
18:56 Speaker 03 I'd have had, oh god, the birds I would have got at primary school if I'd have come back like that.
19:02 Speaker 02 Yeah, you're basically calling me clever.
19:05 Speaker 03 Exact, oh, the joke's on you.
19:07 Speaker 02 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
19:08 Speaker 03 That's always a good comeback, isn't it?
19:10 Speaker 02 Yeah, yeah.
19:10 Speaker 03 Well, actually, I think you'll find.
19:12 Speaker 02 Yes, the joke's on you. Everyone's laughing at me.
19:15 Speaker 03 Everyone's laughing at me, but they should actually be laughing at you.
19:17 Speaker 02 Yeah, but.
19:18 Speaker 03 Because you've called me fat head, but did you know that the brain is actually 60% fat, which means that I've got a bigger brain than you?
19:23 Speaker 02 Exactly. So actually, the joke's on you.
19:24 Speaker 03 So the joke's on you.
19:25 Speaker 02 No one's actually laughing at you, but history will record.
19:27 Speaker 03 Yeah, skinny head. I'll call you skinny head from now on.
19:30 Speaker 02 Yeah, when, when, when the history of today is written.
19:33 Speaker 03 Hmm, yeah.
19:34 Speaker 02 We will know.
19:35 Speaker 03 And then I'd have to get a little fire extinguisher out there.
19:37 Speaker 02 Yeah.
19:38 Speaker 03 To put that burn out.
19:39 Speaker 02 Yeah, yeah, well, exactly. Yeah, exactly.
19:42 Speaker 03 Um, but yeah, what do you think about that, Ninja?
19:44 Speaker 02 I think that's very interesting and, and I'm gonna actually, so my, uh, one of my brothers is, I think he's literally, literally a neuroscientist and he, and he told me so about how you kind, uh, it's not really, just reminds me, reminds me of the same thing, that.
20:02 Speaker 03 One of your brothers is a neuroscientist.
20:04 Speaker 02 Yeah.
20:04 Speaker 03 What's, what's the other one doing? How many brothers you got? Three?
20:07 Speaker 02 Three. One's a primary school teacher.
20:09 Speaker 03 One's a primary school teacher.
20:10 Speaker 02 And one works in like third sector, works in, um, uh, charity, that, that sort of area.
20:16 Speaker 03 All doing really great work.
20:17 Speaker 02 I know, I know what you're gonna say, yeah.
20:19 Speaker 03 All contributing to society in incredible, amazing ways.
20:23 Speaker 02 Yeah, I know. And then me, yeah. Literally trying to spread misinformation.
20:28 Speaker 03 Yeah.
20:30 Speaker 02 Like, I mean, I'm literally the, I'm, I'm the problem. You know, like, almost if you said, like, what's the problem right now, you'd say, bad information online.
20:38 Speaker 03 Yeah.
20:38 Speaker 02 Hello.
20:39 Speaker 03 Especially the pri- like, so the primary school, isn't, like, he's quite high up in the primary school as well, is he not?
20:45 Speaker 02 He's, um, you know what? He's no- he's, he's not the head teacher, but he's very well thought of. And in primary schools, there's always a shortage of male primary school teachers, because men consider it a feminine profession for some reason.
20:57 Speaker 03 Sure.
20:57 Speaker 02 Uh, and actually, it's a terrible irony, because one thing that young boys really, really need and are crying out for is good male role models.
21:04 Speaker 03 Absolutely, yeah. Uh. I think there's some bad ones knocking about that have managed to fill that vacuum.
21:08 Speaker 02 They, yeah, well, exactly. If you don't give them good ones, they're gonna find other ones and they will not be good, so, um.
21:14 Speaker 03 But in, I feel like we're dangerously close to having a serious.
21:17 Speaker 02 We are, we are, and that's not, that's not why we're here.
21:20 Speaker 03 No.
21:20 Speaker 02 If you want us to have a serious conversation, you need to pay us.
21:23 Speaker 03 Yeah, I do know for a fact.
21:25 Speaker 02 Yeah.
21:25 Speaker 03 That primary school kids are exposed to the in-betweens.
21:29 Speaker 02 Yeah.
21:30 Speaker 03 I think if I was a primary school kid, I think I'd seek that sort of thing.
21:33 Speaker 02 Yeah, I think, yeah.
21:34 Speaker 03 Probably behind my parents' back and stuff. So, isn't your brother a bit like, mate, thanks, thanks for that?
21:42 Speaker 02 I mean, I, I guess so, yeah. I am, it's, and he hasn't, I, I don't.
21:46 Speaker 03 Do they know you're his brother?
21:49 Speaker 02 I don't know.
21:49 Speaker 03 Or is that something he's decided to keep secret?
21:51 Speaker 02 I don't, I don't.
21:52 Speaker 03 Because obviously he needs respect as well, doesn't he?
21:53 Speaker 02 He, yeah, I, I, I am, I, I, I don't know, I probab- I, I doubt he talks about it very much, mostly.
22:00 Speaker 03 Yeah.
22:00 Speaker 02 Um, but, um, yeah, I am, yeah, I don't know, I don't know, but, um, but anyway, no, he's, um, that's what he does, I think he's very good at it, and, and, um, it's, uh.
22:12 Speaker 03 To be fair, if you wanted some, if you wanted some cred.
22:14 Speaker 02 Yeah.
22:15 Speaker 03 What you could do one day.
22:16 Speaker 02 Yeah.
22:17 Speaker 03 Is you could, like, rent, like, a Mustang or something for the day.
22:21 Speaker 02 Oh, okay.
22:22 Speaker 03 And wear, like, a sort of, uh, college.
22:25 Speaker 02 Oh, I, oh, one, yeah. Like a quarter, like, what, a quarterback?
22:28 Speaker 03 Yeah, yeah, have some shades on.
22:30 Speaker 02 Yeah, that's right.
22:31 Speaker 03 And just, like, be leaning up against the car with one foot on the car, smoking a cigarette, and just be like, hey. I'm picking you up today.
22:40 Speaker 02 Yeah.
22:41 Speaker 03 Never like, whoa.
22:41 Speaker 02 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
22:42 Speaker 03 He knows Simon from the in-between.
22:44 Speaker 02 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Don't worry, kids. I'm just here to pick up your teacher.
22:49 Speaker 03 Yeah.
22:49 Speaker 02 We're just gonna hit a few bars.
22:51 Speaker 03 Whoa.
22:52 Speaker 02 Yeah. Whoa, can we, can we sit in the car?
22:55 Speaker 03 You're so cool, Mr. Thomas.
22:57 Speaker 02 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. Um, I, I know, I, I am. I think I'd like to do that. I'm, I wa- I wa- I wonder what his reaction would be. I, I am.
23:10 Speaker 03 You fuck off.
23:12 Speaker 02 Do you think I'd look good in that sort of garb? Do you think I'd, I'd look all right, wouldn't I?
23:16 Speaker 03 Oh, you'd pull it off.
23:17 Speaker 02 I think I'd be okay. Yeah.
23:18 Speaker 03 Pull it off. I would say, just like toss an American football.
23:22 Speaker 02 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
23:24 Speaker 03 I wouldn't throw it.
23:24 Speaker 02 No, no.
23:25 Speaker 03 Yeah, that might, it might all fall apart then.
23:27 Speaker 02 Just be, yeah.
23:28 Speaker 03 Just sort of like, just, just do this. Just go, uh, hey kid, go long.
23:33 Speaker 02 Yeah.
23:34 Speaker 03 Only kidding.
23:34 Speaker 02 Yeah, that's it. Yeah, that's really good.
23:36 Speaker 03 Just do that.
23:37 Speaker 02 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, very cool.
23:39 Speaker 03 Yeah.
23:40 Speaker 02 Very, very cool. Keep it very cool.
23:41 Speaker 03 Yeah. And flick him a quarter.
23:44 Speaker 02 Yeah, there you go. Buy yourself a soda.
23:45 Speaker 03 Yeah, just say, hey kid, keep being a legend, yeah?
23:49 Speaker 02 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
23:50 Speaker 03 Oh, thank you.
23:51 Speaker 02 And I drive off. And then, and I drive, then I, then I drive off.
23:55 Speaker 03 Then you drive off.
23:56 Speaker 02 And they're like, legitimately, who was that?
23:58 Speaker 03 Who was that guy?
23:59 Speaker 02 Yeah.
24:00 Speaker 03 Who was that? No, but that is the thing these days.
24:02 Speaker 02 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
24:02 Speaker 03 I'll tell you something, Joe, it's called aura farming. My two boys, I've got two boys, one is, one is fourteen.
24:10 Speaker 02 Right.
24:11 Speaker 03 That's insane. And they're like, cause they were like, uh.
24:14 Speaker 02 He's nearly ready to be in the in-betweeners. I mean, he's.
24:17 Speaker 03 Yeah.
24:17 Speaker 02 That's weird, isn't it?
24:18 Speaker 03 I know, yeah, it is a bit weird.
24:19 Speaker 02 Yeah, it's weird.
24:20 Speaker 03 Uh, but they're, uh, they have genuinely said to me a couple of times, like, you're quite cool, dad. Like, some of the stuff that you do.
24:28 Speaker 02 That's good.
24:28 Speaker 03 Like, your, your aura, your aura farming, right?
24:32 Speaker 02 Oh, right.
24:33 Speaker 03 So like, if they've got mates around and stuff like that, I'd be like, hey, kids, Domino's.
24:39 Speaker 02 Oh.
24:40 Speaker 03 And they're like, whoa.
24:41 Speaker 02 Oh, okay.
24:42 Speaker 03 Fuck.
24:43 Speaker 02 Oh, that's good.
24:44 Speaker 03 No, they don't say fuck. But do you know what I mean?
24:47 Speaker 02 Yeah, yeah.
24:48 Speaker 03 I'll be like, hey, you wanna play on the PlayStation VR headset?
24:52 Speaker 02 Whoa. Oh, that's good.
24:55 Speaker 03 They're always like.
24:56 Speaker 02 You know, it's good, it's good for children to have other children.
25:00 Speaker 03 Yeah.
25:01 Speaker 02 It's a good thing to do.
25:02 Speaker 03 Yeah, it's called, like, it's called aura farming.
25:04 Speaker 02 Aura farming, okay, well.
25:06 Speaker 03 I tell you, I tell you a genuine time.
25:08 Speaker 02 I'm not running a farm at the moment, it's just a sort of overgrown area.
25:11 Speaker 03 Tell you a genuine time where I did some aura farming.
25:14 Speaker 02 Yeah.
25:14 Speaker 03 We were in Australia.
25:15 Speaker 02 Oh, yeah.
25:16 Speaker 03 We were promoting the film.
25:17 Speaker 02 Yes.
25:18 Speaker 03 We'd already, so we'd shot it.
25:20 Speaker 02 Yeah.
25:21 Speaker 03 Then we went, sorry, just burping. Then we went back about six months later.
25:25 Speaker 02 Even aura farmers have to burp.
25:26 Speaker 03 Even, sometimes you lose a bit of aura.
25:29 Speaker 02 Yeah, it's fine, listen.
25:31 Speaker 03 Sometimes you do lose some aura points.
25:32 Speaker 02 That's why you have farming insurance.
25:34 Speaker 03 Um.
25:34 Speaker 02 Because, in case you.
25:36 Speaker 03 Well, yeah.
25:37 Speaker 02 You know, I burped during today's harvest.
25:39 Speaker 03 It used to be, you used to get a load of aura from the EU, but now we don't get that.
25:43 Speaker 02 I know, exactly, I know, what about the regulation though? I will give you it.
25:48 Speaker 03 There was a lot of aura red tape, sure.
25:49 Speaker 02 There was a lot of aura red tape, I know, exactly, yeah.
25:52 Speaker 03 We were in Australia.
25:53 Speaker 02 Oh, God, I, I couldn't, I couldn't honestly, hand on heart, tell my children to go into aura farming.
25:58 Speaker 03 Yeah.
25:59 Speaker 02 I say, get out, get out.
26:01 Speaker 03 Oh, yeah, Christmas Day, you're aura farming.
26:03 Speaker 02 Yeah.
26:03 Speaker 03 Doesn't take a day off.
26:05 Speaker 02 It's not what they say, it's not what they say, it's not the archers, believe you me.
26:08 Speaker 03 Yeah. But we were in Australia.
26:11 Speaker 02 Yeah.
26:12 Speaker 03 And, like, I've been meaning to talk to you about this, by the way.
26:15 Speaker 02 Yeah, yeah.
26:15 Speaker 03 That, we went on a PR campaign in Australia to sell the secondary between these films to Australia.
26:21 Speaker 02 Funny being on a PR campaign, isn't it?
26:23 Speaker 03 One, it is always funny being on a PR campaign, it's always bizarre. And you end up in these really weird situations.
26:29 Speaker 02 People to like you.
26:30 Speaker 03 Yeah.
26:31 Speaker 02 And you're like, well, us four?
26:32 Speaker 03 The Australian one, the Australian one was fucking odd. Loads of fun, don't get me wrong, I enjoyed every minute of it.
26:39 Speaker 02 Yeah.
26:40 Speaker 03 But every time I think about it, I was like, what? So in Australia, like, again, I don't want to keep going on about farming, but, but farming. Festivals.
26:50 Speaker 02 Oh god, I remember this, yeah, yeah.
26:52 Speaker 03 Like huge, absolutely agricultural sort of fairs.
26:57 Speaker 02 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
26:58 Speaker 03 And so if you're trying to, even if you're like Tom Cruise or something, you're trying to sell a film in Australia. You've got to be a guest at one of these fairs. Because that's where everyone's gonna be, that's where all the media's gonna be.
27:10 Speaker 02 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes, all the, all the news and everything, yeah.
27:13 Speaker 03 We ended up shearing sheep.
27:14 Speaker 02 We were shearing sheep.
27:15 Speaker 03 We were in a sheep shearing competition.
27:17 Speaker 02 Yeah.
27:18 Speaker 03 The four of us, there's a picture of us somewhere, I think if you Google it, and we might have to put that up. Because I think people are gonna think, what the fuck are you talking about right now Buckley?
27:26 Speaker 02 Yeah.
27:26 Speaker 03 Of us, you know, in dungarees.
27:29 Speaker 02 Oh, yeah, yeah.
27:29 Speaker 03 Stood around a sheep being sheared or something.
27:32 Speaker 02 No, I remember that. Shearing a sheep is, is.
27:36 Speaker 03 You just found it.
27:37 Speaker 02 Oh man.
27:38 Speaker 03 We sheared some sheep.
27:39 Speaker 02 Yeah.
27:40 Speaker 03 But.
27:44 Speaker 02 Sometimes aura farming is just farming.
27:46 Speaker 03 Right, get this right. So back to, back to aura farming. We, um, we, we were walking through this fair.
27:51 Speaker 02 Yeah.
27:51 Speaker 03 And there's all the fairground rides also going on, all those classic fairground rides.
27:55 Speaker 02 Yeah.
27:56 Speaker 03 And, um, and this Aussie guy.
27:58 Speaker 02 Yeah.
27:58 Speaker 03 Was like, whoa, whoa, it's fucking Jay from the Inbetweeners. Come and have a go, come, come and have a go, come and have a go. And we were being ushered.
28:05 Speaker 02 Yeah.
28:06 Speaker 03 So this was all in one move and Ian Morris was right behind me. He was like, please, please have a go, you don't have to pay. And his, his, um, uh, his game.
28:15 Speaker 02 Yeah.
28:16 Speaker 03 Was a load of balloons on the wall.
28:17 Speaker 02 Right.
28:17 Speaker 03 And you had a dart.
28:18 Speaker 02 Okay.
28:19 Speaker 03 And if you hit a balloon, you got a prize.
28:20 Speaker 02 Okay.
28:21 Speaker 03 And as I'm walking, all in one move, he's put this dart in my hand, I've just lobbed it. And it's sort of arced over. I hit three balloons and it landed in the wall. And he went, do you want a prize? I went, can't mate, gotta go. And Ian Morrison's behind me going, he's just fucking walking off. He's just walking away.
28:43 Speaker 03 And if I'd, if, the only thing that could have made that cooler.
28:46 Speaker 02 Oh, that's brilliant.
28:47 Speaker 03 Is if, is if I'd have just had some shades.
28:49 Speaker 02 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
28:50 Speaker 03 Or I could have just brought down and gone, sorry mate, gotta go.
28:52 Speaker 02 Yeah, yeah.
28:54 Speaker 03 And that was, that was a moment in my life.
28:56 Speaker 02 That is.
28:57 Speaker 03 And also, he didn't, so he doesn't know anything, he's not seen any in my life before then, he's not seen any in my life
29:02 Speaker 02 Yeah.
29:03 Speaker 03 After that situation.
29:04 Speaker 02 Yeah.
29:04 Speaker 03 He just thinks I'm a fucking legend.
29:06 Speaker 02 Yeah, and he went, what about the prize? And he went, give it to the local children's hospital.
29:09 Speaker 03 Yeah.
29:09 Speaker 02 Yeah.
29:10 Speaker 03 Keep it babe.
29:11 Speaker 02 Yeah, yeah, you need it more than I do.
29:14 Speaker 03 What are we talking about?
29:15 Speaker 02 I was saying, no, my brother told me that the brain can't respire anaerobically. That's what he told me.
29:21 Speaker 03 Thank you.
29:21 Speaker 02 So basically, the thing about it being 60% fat, it's almost like, you, you need, this isn't scientifically verified.
29:27 Speaker 03 Well, it might be, it depends.
29:29 Speaker 02 No, no, we're, yeah, no, well.
29:30 Speaker 03 If we both agree, if we both agree that's.
29:32 Speaker 02 Yeah, no. So it's almost like, the fat thing makes me think, it is like, it's this hungry organ, almost. It needs to like, so what, so, so my brother said, you'll never burn fat by thinking, because the brain just needs actual proper food. Like, you can't, you know, you know, when you get into the, the kind of the fat burning part of exercise?
29:52 Speaker 03 Uh, yeah.
29:53 Speaker 02 When you've, you've run out of glucose or whatever, and so that's when your body is like, we don't want to, but we're gonna have to burn some of the fat.
29:59 Speaker 03 Right.
30:00 Speaker 02 You, the, if, if the brain runs out of glucose, say, it won't start doing that, it can't do it. It just needs food. It needs feeding. But this is my point. So I think, I, I kind of think that,
30:10 Speaker 03 Please.
30:11 Speaker 02 People like me and you, our job
30:12 Speaker 03 Go on.
30:13 Speaker 02 Is to think, alright?
30:14 Speaker 03 Sure.
30:15 Speaker 02 It's the thing. Our job is not, this isn't our job. Our bodies are, you know, whatever.
30:19 Speaker 03 It's the brain. The brain's the most important thing.
30:20 Speaker 02 It's the brain.
30:21 Speaker 03 The brain is you, isn't it?
30:22 Speaker 02 So like, so like, if I'm trying to like, work, and I'm like, well, I'll do a better job if I have some more sugar. Like, I should, it's not, it's not my job to not be fat.
30:31 Speaker 03 Hmm.
30:32 Speaker 02 It just, it just literally isn't. But it feels like, I'd say, 70% of people like me are like primarily interested in their body rather than their
30:40 Speaker 03 I am as well, yeah.
30:41 Speaker 02 Mind.
30:42 Speaker 03 No, I think, I would, I would say more than 70%, we're all guilty of it.
30:45 Speaker 02 Yeah.
30:46 Speaker 03 We're all guilty of it, and then you end up.
30:49 Speaker 02 Yeah.
30:49 Speaker 03 I was talking to Claire, I was going, do you reckon I could get a nose job?
30:53 Speaker 02 Yeah.
30:53 Speaker 03 My nose is really big and broken and can I just get a nose job? She said, if you do that, I'll leave you, which actually made me feel good.
31:00 Speaker 02 Oh, that's really nice. Yeah.
31:02 Speaker 03 Said, if you change your nose, I'll leave you. If you change anything about your face, I'll leave you. I was like, oh, thanks, mate. That's all I'm, that's what I needed right now.
31:10 Speaker 02 It's nice that.
31:10 Speaker 03 Didn't get any aura points with that conversation.
31:12 Speaker 02 No.
31:13 Speaker 03 Um, I wasn't farming aura then.
31:15 Speaker 02 Yeah.
31:16 Speaker 03 Um, hey, Joe.
31:17 Speaker 02 Yeah.
31:18 Speaker 03 We need to do, and we need to do this. This is our job.
31:22 Speaker 02 Yeah.
31:22 Speaker 03 Cause we are the fact boys.
31:24 Speaker 02 Yeah.
31:24 Speaker 03 Um, we need to.
31:25 Speaker 02 We're the fat heads.
31:26 Speaker 03 We need, we are the fact heads. We need to, uh, do some fact checking right now.
31:31 Speaker 02 Let's do it.
31:31 Speaker 03 So it's time for fact check. This is where you.
31:35 Speaker 02 Yep.
31:35 Speaker 03 The listener slash viewer, um, will send in something that feels like a fact that you'd like us to confirm as true or false.
31:43 Speaker 02 Yep. Yep.
31:44 Speaker 03 The criteria being whether we think it sounds true.
31:49 Speaker 02 Yeah.
31:49 Speaker 03 That's it, isn't it?
31:50 Speaker 02 Yeah.
31:51 Speaker 03 Um, so we'll be reading a fact that you've sent us or a question that you'd like us to get to the bottom of. And then we're going to have a good little think during the break and we'll come back and let you know how it feels to us.
32:00 Speaker 02 Yeah. Yeah. That was feeling.
32:02 Speaker 03 Joe, I think you've got today's fact. Is that right?
32:05 Speaker 02 I've got the fact here. Okay. So this week's fact check comes from Paul.
32:09 Speaker 03 Mm hmm.
32:11 Speaker 02 He said, hi, J and J.
32:13 Speaker 03 Love that.
32:14 Speaker 02 Like, don't mind that at all. Don't mind that at all.
32:17 Speaker 03 Let's get that to catch on.
32:18 Speaker 02 Yeah, J and J.
32:21 Speaker 03 Well, he's a brand, isn't he? J and J.
32:22 Speaker 02 It looks good as well.
32:23 Speaker 03 It's like a sort of outlet mall.
32:25 Speaker 02 That looks mint, mate.
32:26 Speaker 03 What's his fact, Joe?
32:28 Speaker 02 I can't remember exactly where I heard this. I swear it came from Attenborough.
32:33 Speaker 02 Casual. But I heard that dolphins are the only other animal that have sex with pleasure. Do you think that's true?
32:39 Speaker 03 Oh, I've heard the same thing.
32:40 Speaker 02 Hmm.
32:41 Speaker 03 Let's have a, let's a, let's have a little think about it and we'll be back after the break.
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34:37 Speaker 03 There's my favourite Australian news report of, I think it was in the 80s or the early 90s, that bloke getting arrested.
34:45 Speaker 02 Oh, I haven't seen it.
34:45 Speaker 03 What are the charges?
34:49 Speaker 03 For having a meal, a succulent Chinese meal. I see you know your judo wells. This is democracy manifest. Have you not seen that? Right? I'm gonna show you something now, Joe.
35:02 Speaker 02 Yeah, show it to me.
35:02 Speaker 03 I'm gonna show you something now.
35:03 Speaker 02 Yeah.
35:04 Speaker 03 I love that and particularly me and my sister-in-law.
35:08 Speaker 02 Right.
35:08 Speaker 03 Love that guy so much. I think he was a bit of a ne'er-do-well, to be honest with you. I think he was a bit of a dodgy character.
35:14 Speaker 02 Yes, sure.
35:14 Speaker 03 But that clip is legendary.
35:16 Speaker 02 Right.
35:16 Speaker 03 And she's a tat- my, my sister-in-law is a tattoo artist. My wife's sister is a tattoo artist. So without telling Claire, I went off and got a tattoo. And I suppose it's a little homage to this thing that me and my sister-in-law love so much.
35:31 Speaker 02 So funny.
35:31 Speaker 03 Claire is furious, but I have got on my arm a little Chinese takeaway box and it says succulent.
35:40 Speaker 02 Oh, that's so good.
35:44 Speaker 03 I've got that, I've got that tattooed on my body. What are the charges? Having a meal? A succulent Chinese meal? And I just thought.
35:53 Speaker 02 I just love it.
35:53 Speaker 03 I just thought that's something that me and my sister-in-law find so funny and it will also be something that really annoys Claire.
35:59 Speaker 02 I just love it.
36:00 Speaker 03 But we, we need to stop thinking about Australia for a second.
36:03 Speaker 02 Yeah.
36:03 Speaker 03 Um, because we do need to get back to.
36:05 Speaker 02 Yes.
36:05 Speaker 03 Who, was it Paul?
36:06 Speaker 02 Paul has said, um, he thinks he's, uh, heard.
36:11 Speaker 03 Yes. And he, and, and he swears it came from Attenborough.
36:15 Speaker 02 He swears it came from.
36:16 Speaker 03 So that's, that's, that's fact.
36:19 Speaker 02 Okay, so yeah.
36:20 Speaker 03 If you swear you heard Attenborough, but also, um, yeah, the dolphins are the only other animal. Right. The only thing.
36:26 Speaker 02 I feel like I've heard that other animals also do it.
36:29 Speaker 03 That's the only, I, I, I do think that dolphins do have sex for pleasure. I do think there are other animals that also do.
36:35 Speaker 02 Yeah.
36:36 Speaker 03 So I don't think it's a fact that dolphins, apart from human beings, are the only animals that have sex for pleasure.
36:43 Speaker 02 Yeah.
36:43 Speaker 03 Uh, but I do think it's a fact that dolphins do do that.
36:46 Speaker 02 So we can.
36:47 Speaker 03 In fact, I've heard, I think this was from Attenborough.
36:50 Speaker 02 Yeah.
36:50 Speaker 03 Um, that some dolphins have sexually assaulted people, like on the beach and stuff like that.
36:56 Speaker 02 Bloody hell, right.
36:57 Speaker 03 Like I've heard stories that dolphins have like got a little stiffy and stuff like, like.
37:03 Speaker 02 Right, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well.
37:05 Speaker 03 And I think that was Attenborough that told me that, actually.
37:08 Speaker 02 Yeah, yeah, it sounds like.
37:09 Speaker 03 I was, I was, I was having a succulent Chinese meal with him.
37:12 Speaker 02 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And, um.
37:14 Speaker 03 And.
37:14 Speaker 02 Yeah.
37:14 Speaker 03 And he went, oh, Buckley, do you know, have you heard this? He was just having a fag as well. He went, oh, Buckley, have you heard this, right?
37:20 Speaker 02 He put his pint down.
37:21 Speaker 03 He put his pint down and he went, Buckley, um, you know dolphins, right?
37:24 Speaker 02 Yeah.
37:24 Speaker 03 I know some birds, right? She was out in the sea.
37:26 Speaker 02 Yeah.
37:27 Speaker 03 Fucking dolphin tried it on with her, didn't she?
37:29 Speaker 02 Yeah, yeah.
37:30 Speaker 03 Lucky now, we gotta get him out, we gotta get him out. That's what he said and then he just walked off.
37:35 Speaker 02 Yeah, word for word. Yeah, no, I mean, um, you know, he'll deny it till the cows come home, but he said it.
37:44 Speaker 02 Don't say it then, Astonborough, if you're gonna deny it now.
37:47 Speaker 03 Um, I'm gonna do a, um, a fact up.
37:49 Speaker 02 Alan, what are we saying there?
37:50 Speaker 03 Well, I'm gonna do a fact up first.
37:53 Speaker 02 Oh, all right.
37:54 Speaker 03 And I think this is fine. That is half true. Because I do, I have heard, and Attenborough said it, let's, you know, um, that dolphins do have sex for pleasure.
38:05 Speaker 02 Yeah.
38:06 Speaker 03 However, I do think there are like bonobos or something like that.
38:09 Speaker 02 I've heard that, yeah, I think that other animals do, uh.
38:13 Speaker 03 I think there's like some insects.
38:17 Speaker 02 Yeah.
38:17 Speaker 03 Just like to sort of have it off without the sort of, they just enjoy it.
38:23 Speaker 02 Yeah.
38:23 Speaker 03 That might not be true, that one, but I do think.
38:28 Speaker 02 What insects do we think would?
38:30 Speaker 03 Well, it's in the name, cockroach.
38:34 Speaker 02 Cockroach, absolutely, yeah.
38:39 Speaker 02 Cockroaches, yeah.
38:42 Speaker 03 How, how do you feel about that, Joe? Um, half true, half fact.
38:47 Speaker 02 Half fact is great.
38:48 Speaker 03 Yeah.
38:49 Speaker 02 Um, it just shows that we're pretty precise in what we do.
38:53 Speaker 03 Can you imagine though?
38:54 Speaker 02 Yeah.
38:55 Speaker 03 Can you imagine being on a beach and some horny dolphin?
38:58 Speaker 02 Yeah.
38:59 Speaker 03 Pinning you down, big smile on their face, be fucking terrifying.
39:05 Speaker 03 Right, so-
39:06 Speaker 02 So we're saying, um-
39:07 Speaker 03 Half fact, half fact.
39:10 Speaker 02 We think cockroaches might do it as well, we're not sure, but, you know, what if they're not-
39:15 Speaker 03 I'll ask Attenborough about that, I'm seeing him tonight.
39:16 Speaker 02 We'll ask Attenborough, and like-
39:18 Speaker 03 We've got, we're playing darts tonight, me and Attenborough, so I'll ask him.
39:21 Speaker 02 You do the, um, you do the pub quiz with him, don't you, every-
39:24 Speaker 03 Yeah, we do, yeah.
39:26 Speaker 02 Every second one-
39:27 Speaker 03 Tell you something, mate.
39:28 Speaker 02 Yeah.
39:28 Speaker 03 Fucking, having him on your team.
39:30 Speaker 02 Yeah.
39:31 Speaker 03 Any sort of natural-
39:32 Speaker 02 He's really brilliant at music, isn't he?
39:33 Speaker 03 Any natural-
39:36 Speaker 03 Pop culture, he's a guy.
39:37 Speaker 02 Seventies, uh, he's in the seventies, isn't he? Brilliant.
39:40 Speaker 03 Tell us something about Attenborough, obsessed with X Factor.
39:43 Speaker 02 Yeah, no, you, no, I know, I know.
39:45 Speaker 03 He's always like, and he's voting all the time and stuff.
39:48 Speaker 02 Yeah.
39:49 Speaker 03 I remember him telling me to vote-
39:50 Speaker 02 He did the pilot, he was on the panel.
39:52 Speaker 03 Yeah, yeah. Imagine getting Attenborough for Britain's Got Talent or something.
39:58 Speaker 02 Love it. I really would think it'd be great, imagine what he'd bring.
40:02 Speaker 03 He would just-
40:03 Speaker 02 What's his criteria?
40:04 Speaker 03 He would just go, "I don't think any of this matters."
40:09 Speaker 02 He would say that, I like that, that is what Attenborough would say. If you've got Attenborough on X Factor, he'd say, "Why is this happening? This is simply not important."
40:17 Speaker 03 Yeah.
40:20 Speaker 02 Yeah.
40:21 Speaker 03 I mean, you can talk though, wasn't it Attenborough that, um, that okayed-
40:26 Speaker 02 Well, he was, he did. He's just a legend, isn't he? He's done all the Attenborough programmes, famously.
40:32 Speaker 03 Yeah. He has to do those.
40:35 Speaker 02 He has to do those because they could, they named the programmes first, didn't they?
40:39 Speaker 03 Yeah.
40:39 Speaker 02 And then they went looking-
40:40 Speaker 03 They were like, "Oh, it's that-"
40:41 Speaker 02 And it was him or Richard Attenborough.
40:43 Speaker 03 It's that-
40:43 Speaker 02 Richard Attenborough was doing Jurassic Park, so-
40:45 Speaker 03 He was too busy with Jurassic Park.
40:47 Speaker 02 He was busy with Jurassic Park, so they were like, "Oh, we want, we want Richard Attenborough."
40:50 Speaker 03 Yeah.
40:51 Speaker 02 And he was like, "I've got a brother." And they went, "Oh, fine."
40:59 Speaker 03 JT, it is time now for you to present to me your fact.
41:05 Speaker 02 Let me get my fact out.
41:06 Speaker 03 Go on, get it out in front of the lads.
41:08 Speaker 02 Yeah.
41:11 Speaker 02 So.
41:12 Speaker 03 We went with fat.
41:14 Speaker 02 Yeah, this is about fat.
41:17 Speaker 02 My fat, my fact.
41:20 Speaker 03 Good. You love words.
41:21 Speaker 02 Yeah. Is that, um, it's about the world's most expensive bar of soap. You know, soap, soap, soap's made out of fat.
41:29 Speaker 03 Animal fats.
41:29 Speaker 02 And the, uh.
41:31 Speaker 03 Unless you're vegan, you can get vegan ones, I'm sure.
41:33 Speaker 02 Well, human being is of course an animal.
41:36 Speaker 03 Absolutely.
41:37 Speaker 02 So my fact.
41:38 Speaker 03 Sometimes the dirtiest animals.
41:40 Speaker 02 Filthy.
41:41 Speaker 03 Because they can be filthy.
41:44 Speaker 02 Yeah. They're a disgrace.
41:47 Speaker 03 They are. I've seen some videos.
41:52 Speaker 02 They behave like animals.
41:53 Speaker 03 They do. And I'll tell you something.
41:54 Speaker 02 Like animals.
41:55 Speaker 03 Yeah.
41:58 Speaker 03 Go on, here's with your fat fact.
42:00 Speaker 02 Okay, the world's most expensive bar of soap was, uh, made from body fat removed from the then Italian Prime Minister, Silvio Berlusconi.
42:11 Speaker 03 Was he the one that had all the facelifts and stuff and, uh, is he dead now?
42:15 Speaker 02 I don't know.
42:16 Speaker 03 He's dead. Is Berlusconi dead? But he had like, he was proper like towards the end, well, if he's still alive.
42:23 Speaker 02 Yeah.
42:23 Speaker 03 But he, he was, he was Prime Minister, wasn't he? President? Present?
42:28 Speaker 02 I'll tell you.
42:29 Speaker 04 He died two years ago.
42:31 Speaker 03 Two years ago, yeah.
42:31 Speaker 02 He was, yeah, he was the Prime Minister.
42:33 Speaker 03 Yeah, but he was.
42:34 Speaker 02 He was the Prime Minister at the time that they, that they did this soap thing. And this is actually from the Guinness Book of Records.
42:42 Speaker 03 Yeah.
42:44 Speaker 02 I don't know when.
42:45 Speaker 03 Doesn't matter.
42:46 Speaker 02 It says.
42:47 Speaker 03 Doesn't matter.
42:47 Speaker 02 Uh, it's on display in a gallery in Basel, Switzerland, but can be purchased for £10,000.
42:54 Speaker 03 I don't think he would have gone for a bit more, especially since he's died.
42:57 Speaker 02 Yeah, yeah.
42:58 Speaker 03 Because you're not getting any more.
43:00 Speaker 02 The artist who has called his creation, Manny Pulite, Clean Hands, pronunciation's probably wrong, claims to have received the fat from an unnamed employee at a plastic surgery clinic in the garden of Switzerland.
43:12 Speaker 03 There you go. Because I was going to say, I bet he's had like lipo or something.
43:15 Speaker 02 Yeah, so it sounds like Beliscioni didn't want this to happen.
43:19 Speaker 03 It was against his will that they made soap out of his.
43:23 Speaker 02 Maybe.
43:24 Speaker 03 Sucked out fat.
43:26 Speaker 02 Well, it seems as though if it was from an unnamed, but maybe that's, he probably did have a name.
43:31 Speaker 03 Everyone does.
43:33 Speaker 02 Everyone does.
43:34 Speaker 03 And that is a fact.
43:35 Speaker 02 Good point in a way.
43:36 Speaker 03 Joe?
43:37 Speaker 02 Yeah.
43:38 Speaker 03 I don't know about you, mate, but I am all fact out.
43:40 Speaker 02 I'm fact out.
43:41 Speaker 03 What have we learned today, Joe? What have we learned? We learned that Beliscioni.
43:44 Speaker 02 There's a bar of soap made up, so it's still Beliscioni's.
43:47 Speaker 03 Your brain is 60% fat.
43:50 Speaker 02 That's fat. Imagine the soap made out of that.
43:52 Speaker 03 Dolphins are just little deviants.
43:54 Speaker 02 They are. And also I was thinking that actually dolphins is a good thing because I've, I like the word pod and obviously it's a pod of dolphins, isn't it?
44:02 Speaker 03 They do travel in a pod, yeah.
44:03 Speaker 02 So I know it's Joe and Jane's pod, so we're in a little pod together.
44:05 Speaker 03 We're in a pod together.
44:06 Speaker 02 And we have sets of pleasure as well, don't we? So actually it's.
44:08 Speaker 03 We do.
44:09 Speaker 02 It's quite, it's, it all fits together actually, and it's fit together very early.
44:13 Speaker 03 Sometimes it can be quite painful, depends what you're getting up to.
44:15 Speaker 02 Yeah, it's, but we, you know, we.
44:18 Speaker 03 I don't want to tell you what this kind of stuff that Claire makes me do. It's really sore and Claire, you've got to stop doing it to me. You just, it makes me feel bad.
44:29 Speaker 02 Yeah, but you need to say the safety word, otherwise that's just part of the turn on and stuff.
44:34 Speaker 03 The safety word is more.
44:36 Speaker 02 More.
44:37 Speaker 03 So she tricked me.
44:39 Speaker 02 Safety word, yeah.
44:42 Speaker 03 And we also learned that, Joe, if you're a guy out there trying to impress a date, that Joe will just turn up and pretend that you're mates.
44:50 Speaker 02 Joe and a show.
44:51 Speaker 03 Joe and a show. We do hope that you've learned something or just, you know, enjoyed that, had a nice time. We'll be back next week with some more fact chats and Aura Farm texts.
45:03 Speaker 02 Yeah.
45:05 Speaker 03 No, I've read the other ones, that's the best one.
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45:58 Speaker 03 Anyway, should we go, Joe?
46:00 Speaker 02 Yeah, we better go.
46:00 Speaker 03 We better go. See ya. We'll be back next week.
46:04 Speaker 02 Bye.
46:04 Speaker 03 Bye.
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