Pod Insights Joe and James Fact Up Happy Battle Of Hastings Day! About this episode This week Joe Thomas and James Buckley celebrate everyone's favourite holiday in the calendar, The Battle Of Hastings Day! James shares who he was originally cast to play in The Inbetweeners pilot and Joe finds out his exact percentage of body fat.
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2:50 Speaker 04 Or if someone talked over them.
2:51 Speaker 03 Yes.
2:52 Speaker 04 Sorry about that.
2:53 Speaker 03 Don't you worry, Joe. I mean, you're here to talk, aren't you? It's good to talk.
2:56 Speaker 04 Oh, I tell you what.
2:57 Speaker 03 That's what Bobby Oskins used to say.
2:58 Speaker 04 It does, you know, and um-
3:00 Speaker 03 Dead?
3:01 Speaker 04 Dead, of course. But not forgotten.
3:03 Speaker 03 No.
3:04 Speaker 04 I can agree with that.
3:05 Speaker 03 I feel like he is forgotten.
3:07 Speaker 04 He is, actually.
3:07 Speaker 03 I feel like if you asked a seventeen, I feel like if you asked a seventeen year old girl-
3:11 Speaker 04 Yeah, yeah.
3:13 Speaker 03 What'd you think of Bob Oskins?
3:14 Speaker 04 Yeah.
3:14 Speaker 03 They'd just gob at you.
3:16 Speaker 04 Yeah, I agree, actually. They'd probably get pregnant or something.
3:21 Speaker 04 Is that all right?
3:22 Speaker 03 Anyway.
3:22 Speaker 04 Okay, goodbye, all the female listeners.
3:25 Speaker 03 How are you? How are you, Joe? You all right?
3:27 Speaker 04 Yeah, I'm fine, thanks. Yeah, I'm um back in this t-shirt. It's the only one that fits me.
3:33 Speaker 03 Right, yeah.
3:35 Speaker 04 Uh, I'm twenty-three percent fat. I just-
3:37 Speaker 03 Twenty-three percent?
3:38 Speaker 04 Twenty-three. There was a time in my life where if I was sixteen percent fat-
3:43 Speaker 03 Yeah.
3:43 Speaker 04 I was like, God, I was worrying.
3:44 Speaker 03 God, I saw that out.
3:45 Speaker 04 It just, I went on the machine. I was like, stop going up.
3:49 Speaker 03 Yeah. I've not been looking after myself for about a year. I need to get into some, some kind of routine.
3:56 Speaker 04 You're telling me you've got special trousers?
3:57 Speaker 03 I've got some special trousers now, where they look like trousers. They look like nice, sort of smart chinos.
4:04 Speaker 04 Yeah.
4:04 Speaker 03 And then you look at the waistband and it's just elasticated-
4:07 Speaker 04 Yeah.
4:08 Speaker 03 With a little drawstring.
4:09 Speaker 04 I'm gonna call them lockdown trousers. I know that's retro, but I, but I think that is when everyone really, it went south.
4:15 Speaker 03 I've not recovered from lockdown. I drank so much during lockdown. There was nothing else to do.
4:20 Speaker 04 Yeah, I know. Yeah. All I did in lockdown was like buy like speciality booze over the internet.
4:26 Speaker 03 You're right.
4:26 Speaker 04 I've still got all this kind of like stuff, that sort of like, like lighty liqueur and stuff.
4:31 Speaker 03 Yeah.
4:32 Speaker 04 For cocktail hour.
4:33 Speaker 03 You're right.
4:33 Speaker 04 Because it was cocktail. It was like living on a submarine. It was like you got, we'd go one end of our flat to sleep.
4:38 Speaker 03 Yeah.
4:39 Speaker 04 We'd wake up and we'd be like, if you go to the kitchen, we'd be like, not yet, don't ruin it.
4:41 Speaker 03 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, no, I was just saying, me and Claire were just like, for, for some reason, four o'clock seemed like the acceptable time.
4:50 Speaker 04 Fucking great time to drink.
4:51 Speaker 03 And it'd be like one o'clock in the afternoon.
4:53 Speaker 04 Yeah.
4:53 Speaker 03 And we're like, three hours to go.
4:55 Speaker 04 Yeah. If it's after midday, you're golden.
4:58 Speaker 03 However.
4:58 Speaker 04 If you go to the cricket, if it's after 10, you're golden.
5:02 Speaker 03 Well, this is my theory, right?
5:03 Speaker 04 Yeah.
5:04 Speaker 03 I always say it's a Saturday.
5:06 Speaker 04 Yeah.
5:06 Speaker 03 It's a lovely sunny day.
5:08 Speaker 04 Yeah.
5:09 Speaker 03 I'll have a pint at 11.
5:11 Speaker 04 It's fine.
5:12 Speaker 03 I always go to, well, the pubs are open now.
5:14 Speaker 04 Pubs are open. Don't open them then.
5:16 Speaker 03 Pubs are open now, so we can have a pint now.
5:18 Speaker 04 Do you remember when in Covid, they were like, don't panic Britain, we're getting the pubs back open.
5:24 Speaker 03 Yeah.
5:24 Speaker 04 And it was like, how's that gonna help?
5:26 Speaker 03 I remember.
5:27 Speaker 04 It was like, well, we'll be drunk.
5:29 Speaker 03 I remember.
5:30 Speaker 04 So we'll feel better.
5:31 Speaker 03 I remember pubs were doing sort of drive by.
5:34 Speaker 04 Yeah.
5:35 Speaker 03 You could just sort of swing by in your car or something to get a pint.
5:39 Speaker 04 It was brilliant. They'd have a hatch. It was like prohibition.
5:42 Speaker 03 Yeah, yeah.
5:43 Speaker 04 You had to go around the back and they handed it out, like out, handing it through a barn window or something.
5:49 Speaker 03 I drank so much beer during lockdown.
5:51 Speaker 04 There was nothing to do, I mean famously, I'm not the first person to say this. I believe it's there to quite significant political shifts, but there was nothing to do.
5:59 Speaker 03 It was like our Blitz.
6:00 Speaker 04 Yes, and it felt a bit like the Blitz to begin with, and then everyone got a bit fed up.
6:04 Speaker 03 Yeah, everyone got bored of it.
6:05 Speaker 04 The first one was good. And also, do you remember when you thought, when it seemed like it might change society? Like it'd make us sort of talk to our neighbours and it did make it seem like it would.
6:16 Speaker 04 We'd all have allotments or something, we'd grow our own veg and like it was gonna. And there were all those videos, one of those videos were like the, it was like, oh, look at this, it's like a deer just walking down Oxford Street.
6:29 Speaker 03 Yeah.
6:29 Speaker 04 Because no one's there.
6:30 Speaker 03 Nature's reclaiming. Yeah, as if it was 28 days later or something like that.
6:34 Speaker 04 It was amazing that like, if you were nature, if you were like the voice of nature, you'd be like, these people are fucking destroying the planet.
6:41 Speaker 03 Yeah.
6:41 Speaker 04 And then, and the only thing we can hope and pray for as nature is that one day they'll just stop.
6:48 Speaker 03 Yeah.
6:48 Speaker 04 Like they'll stop flying, they'll stop driving, there's no reason to think they will. And then during the pandemic, nature must have been like, fucking hell, they've done it, they've stopped. Things have come right down. And then they were like, oh no, they haven't stopped. No, they're carrying on. No, they had to stop for a bit, but then they carried on.
7:05 Speaker 03 A little break there.
7:05 Speaker 04 They had to take a little break, but now they're carrying on.
7:06 Speaker 03 That's what people, they always say, whoever they are, like the best thing for life on earth would be the. If humans went extinct.
7:14 Speaker 04 Yeah.
7:15 Speaker 03 Cause then the rest of life would.
7:17 Speaker 04 Yeah.
7:18 Speaker 03 But then all those deers, maybe they'll evolve over the next couple of million years or something.
7:22 Speaker 04 Yeah.
7:23 Speaker 03 And we'll have a load of deer people, not on my fucking watch.
7:26 Speaker 04 No.
7:27 Speaker 03 I'm sick of the fucking deer people, Joe.
7:29 Speaker 04 You're not, I know.
7:29 Speaker 03 Coming over here, taking our women.
7:32 Speaker 04 I don't want.
7:33 Speaker 03 Taking our jobs.
7:34 Speaker 04 Well, I think, I think what you're talking about is um. Centaurs, aren't you? And it's about time, because I've seen them around.
7:45 Speaker 03 Yeah.
7:46 Speaker 04 I don't like them.
7:47 Speaker 03 Nah, I don't trust them.
7:48 Speaker 04 Body of a horse, head of a man.
7:52 Speaker 03 Yeah.
7:54 Speaker 04 You know, oh, but if you mention it.
7:59 Speaker 03 They are, to tell you just one thing about the centaurs, Joe, bloody good archers.
8:04 Speaker 04 They are good, aren't they?
8:05 Speaker 03 They're good with a bow and arrow.
8:06 Speaker 04 I suppose they are.
8:07 Speaker 03 What are we talking about?
8:12 Speaker 03 I feel, I feel like me and you are scared of the, is scared of the present.
8:17 Speaker 04 Yeah.
8:18 Speaker 03 I'm terrified of the future.
8:19 Speaker 04 The future's scary, yeah. Because it's also, because it's, it is so unknowable.
8:23 Speaker 03 But I do like the, the idea, and we will eventually get there, like it's inevitable.
8:27 Speaker 04 Yeah.
8:28 Speaker 03 That if you do, you have an accident or something, you lose your leg or your arm or something like that. Or you shit, or you just shit yourself.
8:34 Speaker 04 Yeah. Well, one, one day it's like, it'll be so advanced that if you shit yourself, it'll be dealt with really quickly.
8:41 Speaker 03 Yeah.
8:41 Speaker 04 By the end of the day, you'll be in new trousers.
8:45 Speaker 03 Well, that's why, that's why I've got those trousers on.
8:46 Speaker 04 Yeah, yeah, of course.
8:47 Speaker 03 They just come off straight easy.
8:48 Speaker 04 They go straight in the washing machine.
8:50 Speaker 03 No, but you lose, you lose a leg or something, or an arm, something like that. Like, it will come to a point where it's like.
8:56 Speaker 04 Yeah.
8:56 Speaker 03 You'll have something better.
8:57 Speaker 04 Yeah.
8:58 Speaker 03 We'll put something better on.
8:59 Speaker 04 Yeah, of course.
9:00 Speaker 03 Like.
9:00 Speaker 04 Completely.
9:01 Speaker 03 Like, and I think people will.
9:03 Speaker 04 You better hope you lose your brain, because look what's coming in.
9:06 Speaker 03 And I think people, I genuinely think people will, because you know.
9:10 Speaker 04 You mean they'll deliberately slice stuff off?
9:12 Speaker 03 I think people will just be like, I'll get rid of these arms and can I have some, like, can I have some arms that are just quicker and faster and stronger?
9:19 Speaker 04 While I was.
9:19 Speaker 03 Yeah, no problem.
9:20 Speaker 04 While I was researching facts this week, my research is a book, it was published in 1890.
9:25 Speaker 03 Fucking brilliant.
9:26 Speaker 04 It's a book of facts from 1890.
9:27 Speaker 03 Sure.
9:28 Speaker 04 And um, it said that the philosopher Zeno, uh.
9:33 Speaker 04 Committed suicide when he was 98 because he broke his finger and he was like, oh fuck it, that's hurts. I'm gonna die soon anyway. Like probably by the time it's healed, I will die naturally anyway.
9:43 Speaker 03 This is what I don't like about philosophers.
9:45 Speaker 04 Yeah. It didn't say that. Yeah.
9:47 Speaker 03 They say, they claim.
9:49 Speaker 04 Yeah.
9:49 Speaker 03 They claim to sort of care about stuff and wonder and think a lot, right? They're always thinking, these philosophers, can't stop bloody thinking.
9:59 Speaker 04 Yeah.
10:00 Speaker 03 And it seems like the inevitable conclusion is always just, oh, nothing, Maz. I might as well be dead. And you don't wanna go down the pub with a bloke like that.
10:10 Speaker 04 No, you don't. No.
10:11 Speaker 03 Sometimes I worry.
10:12 Speaker 04 Because if he broke his finger coming back from the bar.
10:14 Speaker 03 Yeah.
10:15 Speaker 04 Your drinks wouldn't arrive because you just go back out to look for him.
10:18 Speaker 03 He's just a body.
10:19 Speaker 04 He's killed himself.
10:20 Speaker 03 He's killed, oh, he's killed himself.
10:21 Speaker 04 He's like, I've spilt, he'd be like, I've slightly spilt that pint.
10:24 Speaker 03 Yeah, I've ruined the shirt.
10:25 Speaker 04 But I'm 98.
10:26 Speaker 03 I've ruined the shirt, I'm 98.
10:28 Speaker 04 Yeah.
10:28 Speaker 03 I can't be bothered to buy a new shirt. I'm gonna be dead soon anyway.
10:32 Speaker 04 Imagine getting yourself, it's like, you spill, I sometimes like, trying to take a sip of coffee from a cup with a lid.
10:41 Speaker 03 Yeah.
10:41 Speaker 04 And I don't know why, but like, when it's full, it goes down, it kind of bloods black up and then a bit goes down you, and you're like.
10:46 Speaker 03 You know what, right?
10:46 Speaker 04 And I'm honestly like.
10:47 Speaker 03 It doesn't just go down.
10:48 Speaker 04 I don't even wanna go out.
10:49 Speaker 03 Have you ever had it where it's just gone straight in your eye?
10:52 Speaker 04 Yeah, I have that actually. Yeah, I have had that. Yeah.
10:54 Speaker 03 It's like a bullseye.
10:55 Speaker 04 Yeah.
10:55 Speaker 03 It misses all around your eye. A little blob will just like, you drink something and it'll plop back in the cup.
11:01 Speaker 04 Yeah, I have had that.
11:02 Speaker 03 And a little blob will go straight in you. Fucking winds me up, Joe.
11:05 Speaker 04 Yeah.
11:06 Speaker 03 What can we do? We can sort that out.
11:08 Speaker 04 It is weird.
11:09 Speaker 03 Hmm.
11:12 Speaker 04 You all right? Has it happened?
11:13 Speaker 03 Yes, just happened. Oh no. That bit was fizzier than I thought.
11:18 Speaker 04 They will, they will fizz up. Do you ever used to do the thing where you hit the end with?
11:22 Speaker 03 Yeah.
11:23 Speaker 04 You could sort of razz your mate.
11:24 Speaker 03 Yeah, you can do that with a pint. I don't know what it does. Um, listen.
11:28 Speaker 04 It shakes it all up probably.
11:29 Speaker 03 It is currently, and I don't wanna like, let people peek behind the curtain too much.
11:34 Speaker 04 Yeah.
11:35 Speaker 03 But as of, what episode are we on now? Episode four? As of recording, our podcast has just gone out this morning.
11:41 Speaker 04 Yeah.
11:41 Speaker 03 For us.
11:41 Speaker 04 Yeah.
11:42 Speaker 03 Thank you, mate. Um.
11:46 Speaker 03 Bit stressful, isn't it?
11:47 Speaker 04 It is stressful.
11:48 Speaker 03 Do you know what I mean? Like, you don't know. We still don't know. The words. We haven't got word back whether people like it or not. Um, but we were, we did do a little promo video, didn't we? With the, with the, with the Inbetweeners car and stuff.
12:02 Speaker 04 Which I really liked.
12:03 Speaker 03 And that was really fun.
12:03 Speaker 04 I thought it was really fun.
12:05 Speaker 03 Fucking posting that shit.
12:07 Speaker 04 Yeah.
12:07 Speaker 03 Is a pain in the arse. I post, I had to post it to TikTok.
12:11 Speaker 04 Yeah.
12:11 Speaker 03 Right? So I put it, I posted it on TikTok and it just said, this video is ineligible to be, you know, for people to see or something like that, right? TikTok are not, are not gonna push it.
12:22 Speaker 04 Yeah.
12:23 Speaker 03 And I think it's because.
12:24 Speaker 04 Is it because of all that, um, vaccine misinformation I put into it?
12:27 Speaker 03 I think that might have been it.
12:28 Speaker 04 Ah.
12:29 Speaker 03 But it was also, um.
12:30 Speaker 04 You know, that's important to me, man. That's really important to me, man.
12:33 Speaker 03 But also I think it's.
12:34 Speaker 04 They lied, man. And I'm gonna fucking get it out there. Cause.
12:38 Speaker 03 I also think it's, uh.
12:39 Speaker 04 You know, anyway, go on.
12:40 Speaker 03 I also think it's because, um, we also posted it on the Joe and James Fact Up TikTok account, right? So TikTok have gone, whoa, wait a minute. You can't post the same video. You're posting the same video as this other account. So you must be, like, they're, they're treating me like I'm nicking content or something.
12:58 Speaker 04 Is this, oh, or is this one of these, are you a robot situations?
13:02 Speaker 03 I know.
13:02 Speaker 04 It's like, well, you're a robot. Well, I'm not. Well, how come you've managed to set up two accounts?
13:09 Speaker 03 Yes. Well, listen, so it knows I'm not a robot, by the way, TikTok. Because there is someone else on TikTok called, my TikTok account is called James Buckstagram.
13:19 Speaker 04 Right.
13:21 Speaker 03 Right. It's a long story. I can't be bothered to get into that one.
13:23 Speaker 04 No, it's alright. Cause it sounds a bit like Instagram, doesn't it?
13:25 Speaker 03 Yeah, well, that's where it come from.
13:26 Speaker 04 And one would have thought.
13:28 Speaker 03 Sort of.
13:28 Speaker 04 That you would have done like, James O'Clock TikTok.
13:31 Speaker 03 Yeah, I know, I should have done that. Um, but there's another account called Jame Buckstagram with no S, right? This fucker is still. Takes everything that I've ever posted and just reposts it constantly. They're allowed to repost everything that I do. I do the same video.
13:52 Speaker 04 They've got the backing of TikTok.
13:53 Speaker 03 I do, they have.
13:54 Speaker 04 And therefore.
13:55 Speaker 03 Because I've also.
13:56 Speaker 04 Chinese Communist Party.
13:57 Speaker 03 I've also flagged it up to TikTok and said, this person's like, keeps nicking my content and stuff, right?
14:02 Speaker 04 Don't, don't tell them.
14:03 Speaker 03 So TikTok.
14:04 Speaker 04 Don't tell Lenin.
14:04 Speaker 03 But TikTok were like, why, who are you? Basically. And I went, well, I am James Buckley. I am the guy. And they were like, and TikTok was like, well, you're not verified. So listen, social media, how social media works, you want people. Take all my fucking, take all my content, repost it, like do whatever you want. We want to get it all out there. And if it earns you a few quid, like from views or whatever, brilliant. Like I've not got no problem at all there whatsoever.
14:30 Speaker 04 What you don't want.
14:31 Speaker 03 But just say that you're a fan account or that you're just, don't just pretend to be me.
14:38 Speaker 04 Yeah, it's a bit.
14:38 Speaker 03 Jame Buckstagram, please. I've tried to get rid of you.
14:42 Speaker 04 Yeah.
14:42 Speaker 03 You've blocked me now as well. I know for a fact that you fucking blocked me. Right? Because when I, when I just, um, search for you without using my, without logging in, I can find you. But when I'm logged in, I can't find you anymore. All right. I know that you've blocked me and you know what you're doing and I know you're watching this.
15:02 Speaker 04 Probably recording as well.
15:04 Speaker 03 Just, just keep doing it. Keep doing what you're doing. You can use my content as much as you like. I don't have a problem with that. And if it makes you money, brilliant. That's really cool. I'm pleased for you. But stop like replying to people in the, thanks. Like when they go, oh, you're a legend, bro. Just go, oh, it's not really him. Just say it's not really him.
15:22 Speaker 04 And look, Jame, look, I know how these things happen, right? You, you tell one lie.
15:26 Speaker 03 It's got, you've been swept up.
15:28 Speaker 04 And then suddenly you have to tell more lies.
15:31 Speaker 03 But it's never too late to do the right thing.
15:35 Speaker 04 It will be.
15:35 Speaker 03 It's never too late, late, Jame, Jame Buckstagram.
15:40 Speaker 04 It'll be easier.
15:41 Speaker 03 That is your real name.
15:42 Speaker 04 Than you think.
15:45 Speaker 04 Yeah, thinking about it, it'd be a hell of a coincidence, wouldn't it?
15:50 Speaker 04 It was like, I've got one thing going for me.
15:52 Speaker 03 It might be a bloke called Jane Buckstagram that looks exactly like me, that's just done the exact same stuff as me.
15:58 Speaker 04 You know what, I am, yeah, it probably is that actually.
16:04 Speaker 03 Anyway, the podcast has gone out and I thought I'd give it a listen.
16:13 Speaker 03 Like, like.
16:14 Speaker 04 Yeah, that's all right.
16:15 Speaker 03 No, yeah, right. I didn't really listen to it though. I just let it play on my phone while I was, while I was getting ready.
16:22 Speaker 04 Okay.
16:22 Speaker 03 For about 15 minutes, I just left the phone in a different, completely different room to what I was in. But I wanted it to get a, a listen. Like, I wanted like some sort of statistic, right? Do you know what I mean?
16:33 Speaker 04 And you gave it like one.
16:35 Speaker 03 Yeah, yeah. And I was listening to it. So adverts come on. Like, I was listening to it on Spotify and you get those sort of automatic ads that come on.
16:44 Speaker 04 Yeah.
16:45 Speaker 03 What's going on, guys? Right? They're all American. They were definitely not for our audience as well. Like, the algorithm still hasn't, because it's brand new, I guess.
16:54 Speaker 04 I see, so.
16:55 Speaker 03 There was one advert called Tacovis Forever West. They're a cowboy boot company. Literally a cowboy boot company. And it was like, you like your boots shiny? Go to Tacovis Forever West, we'll make sure you get the rad boot. It was all stuff like this. I was like, anyone listening, anyone listening to this right now does, does not need cowboy boots.
17:19 Speaker 04 Well, look, but if that's, if, maybe that is our market. I mean, you know, and can I just say, do head down to Nebraska State Fair for all your saddling needs.
17:31 Speaker 03 There was another one, Wild Alaskan.
17:34 Speaker 04 Moonshine.
17:35 Speaker 03 Wild Alaskan Company. They're a fish delivery service.
17:39 Speaker 04 Oh, it's great.
17:40 Speaker 03 I mean, I am in the market for some cowboy boots.
17:43 Speaker 04 Yeah, well, maybe, yeah.
17:44 Speaker 03 Cowboy boots and fish.
17:47 Speaker 04 And I feel like you do have quite sort of American tastes, perhaps, do you think?
17:52 Speaker 03 Yeah, sure.
17:53 Speaker 04 You know, you like an American car?
17:54 Speaker 03 Yes.
17:56 Speaker 04 So maybe it's just.
17:57 Speaker 03 An American car.
17:57 Speaker 04 Yeah, could be that.
17:59 Speaker 03 Should I get some cowboy boots for next episode?
18:02 Speaker 04 I think you have to now.
18:04 Speaker 03 Well, to CoVus Forever West, if you want to get in touch and so and hook me up with some cowboy boots. I mean, I've mentioned your company a couple of times. It's already been advertised on our channel.
18:15 Speaker 04 I've been advertised to you as well.
18:17 Speaker 03 Yeah.
18:18 Speaker 04 Yeah.
18:19 Speaker 03 So get in touch. But, yeah.
18:23 Speaker 04 Yeah, it's good.
18:24 Speaker 03 Is that a good, is that a good, is that a good chat?
18:27 Speaker 04 Happy, yeah.
18:28 Speaker 03 All right.
18:29 Speaker 04 Right then, and I'm just gonna have a bit of tea.
18:31 Speaker 03 I'm gonna have a swig of beer. We'll be back in a second.
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20:30 Speaker 03 Just quickly, Jo.
20:31 Speaker 04 Yeah.
20:32 Speaker 03 Currently, as of speaking, we are in the top 10 comedy charts on Apple Podcasts.
20:39 Speaker 04 Pretty good.
20:40 Speaker 03 We have had six reviews.
20:43 Speaker 04 Right.
20:45 Speaker 03 And one of them, one of them gave us a four star.
20:51 Speaker 04 Okay.
20:53 Speaker 03 But the rest of them gave us five.
20:54 Speaker 04 That's very good. I'm quite a fan of the mid numbers.
20:58 Speaker 03 Oh, I'm gonna give a five star. Why don't I do that?
21:00 Speaker 04 Yeah.
21:00 Speaker 03 There we go. I've given a five star.
21:02 Speaker 04 Hmm, there we go.
21:04 Speaker 03 But that's not bad, is it?
21:05 Speaker 04 That's pretty good.
21:06 Speaker 03 Five, five. Look at this. Four, five, five.
21:09 Speaker 04 Six five stars. Six five stars and one four.
21:12 Speaker 03 Yeah, something like that. If you like this podcast, give us a review. Five stars would be smashing. Also, I do really like, I listen to podcasts on Spotify, I'll be honest with you.
21:23 Speaker 04 Yeah.
21:24 Speaker 03 And you can comment.
21:26 Speaker 04 Yeah.
21:26 Speaker 03 You can comment on your, on, on episodes of Spotify.
21:30 Speaker 04 Yeah.
21:30 Speaker 03 So if you've got anything that you want me to read, a little, you don't have to, you don't have to read it out on the podcast if you just wanna get a message to me.
21:38 Speaker 04 Yeah.
21:38 Speaker 03 I'll read them all. I feel like you won't, will you?
21:42 Speaker 04 I'm not really a comic. Well, no, I mean, I wanna be. I like, I mean, I'm.
21:47 Speaker 03 You're not techie. You're not a techie guy, are you? You just told me that you, your research for the, for our podcast is from a book from 1890.
21:54 Speaker 04 Yeah, I've got a book of facts from 1890.
21:55 Speaker 03 Is it? Right, hang on a minute. So is it a reprint though?
21:59 Speaker 04 No, it's from 1890.
22:00 Speaker 03 The book.
22:01 Speaker 04 Yeah, I got it from an antique bookshop.
22:03 Speaker 03 The book's about 130 years old.
22:05 Speaker 04 Yeah, it's falling apart, actually.
22:07 Speaker 03 I bet it is.
22:07 Speaker 04 Yeah, the spine has fallen off.
22:09 Speaker 03 Yeah.
22:09 Speaker 04 Um, and I think quite a lot of the facts might not be true.
22:12 Speaker 03 They might be dated, mightn't they?
22:14 Speaker 04 They're a bit out of date. They're all things like, they're all like, what a half century we've seen. The telegraph, the steam engine, the automatic printing machine.
22:24 Speaker 04 Truly, there are very few wonders that seem beyond the reach of mankind.
22:27 Speaker 03 Well, of course.
22:28 Speaker 04 It's all that, it's all that.
22:30 Speaker 03 Of course, they said in 1900.
22:31 Speaker 04 All the great inventions had already been made. It's funny, it is that. It is genuinely, it's funny, it's, it is like late Victorian hubris.
22:38 Speaker 03 We do need to talk about our facts. We've been told.
22:40 Speaker 04 Yeah, okay.
22:42 Speaker 03 Um, I, I believe it's you first, Joe. It's time for you to give me a fact. Right, um, just quickly. The day that this podcast goes out, the transmission date of this podcast is the 14th of October.
22:55 Speaker 04 Yep.
22:55 Speaker 03 Which, as we all know.
22:57 Speaker 04 Oh, my goodness.
22:58 Speaker 03 Is the day, um, it's the anniversary of, and everyone's, everyone's saying it, listening, of course.
23:04 Speaker 04 Of course.
23:05 Speaker 03 The Battle of Hastings. Yeah, we all knew, we all knew it was coming.
23:10 Speaker 04 Yeah.
23:10 Speaker 03 Um, 14th of October, 1066.
23:13 Speaker 04 What are you, what are you doing for it this year?
23:14 Speaker 03 Oh.
23:15 Speaker 04 Oh, oh God, I've still got so many presents to buy. Oh, I've got, what am I gonna get? Oh my, I don't know, my dad's hard to buy for on Battle of Hastings Day.
23:24 Speaker 03 I'm going, uh, are we?
23:25 Speaker 04 Can't have another sword.
23:26 Speaker 03 Are we going door to door, singing songs of people?
23:29 Speaker 04 Yeah. Talking in like, Middle English. Aye, why in no.
23:34 Speaker 03 I've got a little eye patch. I've got a little eye patch with an arrow sticking out of it.
23:39 Speaker 04 Yeah.
23:39 Speaker 03 And I like to, the kids love it.
23:41 Speaker 04 Oh, I'll tell you what, it's.
23:42 Speaker 03 Do you know what? Uh, to be honest, Joe, and I don't wanna, I don't wanna be, I don't wanna be a bit of a downer. I could take or leave Battle of Hastings Day.
23:48 Speaker 04 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
23:49 Speaker 03 Um, but it's for the kids, really.
23:50 Speaker 04 It's for the kids, isn't it? I know, that's the thing. It's for the thing. I know. And, and, um, and obviously, it's just, it feels like it's a day for retail now though, doesn't it?
23:59 Speaker 03 Oh, it's gotten very commercial.
24:00 Speaker 04 I went into a shop, um, this won't work because we're saying it's today. The joke would be, oh, they already had all the Battle of Hastings stuff up.
24:09 Speaker 03 They had it a month ago.
24:10 Speaker 04 And it's Mitch's line.
24:11 Speaker 03 I know, it's insane.
24:12 Speaker 04 I know, it's like as soon as summer's over, they're like, get the Battle of Hastings stuff up.
24:15 Speaker 03 I saw people, because they do, they do all the Battle of Hastings sales, don't they?
24:18 Speaker 04 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
24:20 Speaker 03 People trampling over each other, it is disgusting.
24:23 Speaker 04 Yeah, yeah, it's ridiculous.
24:25 Speaker 03 It makes me feel really ashamed of society.
24:27 Speaker 04 Yeah.
24:27 Speaker 03 But Battle of Hastings.
24:28 Speaker 04 And they start, they start the post-Battle of Hastings sales before the Battle of Hastings now.
24:32 Speaker 03 I know, yeah, these days.
24:33 Speaker 04 It's ridiculous.
24:34 Speaker 03 I know, yeah.
24:35 Speaker 04 Yeah.
24:35 Speaker 03 I mean, the 15th of October, I don't leave the house.
24:37 Speaker 04 Yeah.
24:38 Speaker 03 I don't go down the high street.
24:39 Speaker 04 Yeah, I love.
24:40 Speaker 03 Jesus.
24:40 Speaker 04 I love that part of the year though, don't you?
24:42 Speaker 03 Oh, no, it is nice.
24:43 Speaker 04 All the stress, it's like you've done the big dinner, you've done, and then you're like, you know what? It's just two or three days, you know, when the family's finally left.
24:51 Speaker 03 15th of October, you'll see me on the couch.
24:54 Speaker 04 Yeah, I will be there, yes.
24:55 Speaker 03 Watching a classic Battle of Hastings film.
24:58 Speaker 04 Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And just thinking, oh, that's it for another year.
25:02 Speaker 03 The only annoying thing, Joe.
25:03 Speaker 04 Yeah.
25:04 Speaker 03 Is that, obviously, we're recording this ahead of time, the actual day of the Battle of Hastings. I want to know who's going to be Battle of Hastings number one.
25:10 Speaker 04 I know, I know, absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. I know it was, yeah, it was Mr Blobby one year, wasn't it?
25:17 Speaker 03 It was.
25:18 Speaker 04 Hopefully it'll be a genuine, you know, not just something that's been, you know, not just Cliff Richard or something.
25:24 Speaker 03 I think it was So Solid Crew a few years ago.
25:26 Speaker 04 Yeah, you never know, you never know.
25:27 Speaker 03 But yes, no, of course.
25:28 Speaker 04 It's worth Googling, actually, Battle of Hastings number one, you'll be surprised.
25:31 Speaker 03 It's one of the, one of the biggest days of the year.
25:33 Speaker 04 Always five minutes.
25:34 Speaker 03 The 14th of October.
25:35 Speaker 04 It's a big day.
25:36 Speaker 03 So we have, we've got.
25:38 Speaker 04 Yeah.
25:39 Speaker 03 Some Battle of Hastings facts that we're going to present to each other.
25:42 Speaker 04 Yeah, yeah.
25:42 Speaker 03 Joe, you were up first this week.
25:44 Speaker 04 Oh, yeah, well, it didn't take place in Hastings.
25:51 Speaker 04 It took place in, there's a town called Battle.
25:53 Speaker 03 Oh, you're one of those, are you?
25:54 Speaker 04 No, I'm just saying.
25:55 Speaker 03 You're one of those.
25:56 Speaker 04 It took place in Battle.
25:56 Speaker 03 It's Battle of Hastings Day, and you go, it didn't even take place in Hastings. It wasn't even on this date.
26:01 Speaker 04 Yeah, no, and also.
26:02 Speaker 03 It was in Easter.
26:03 Speaker 04 Well, it took place in Battle, and, yeah. And who's from Battle? Keen are.
26:11 Speaker 03 Right.
26:11 Speaker 04 The band Keen.
26:13 Speaker 03 The band Keen are from Battle.
26:14 Speaker 04 They're from Battle.
26:15 Speaker 03 So the Battle of Hastings.
26:16 Speaker 04 Yeah.
26:17 Speaker 03 Wasn't in Hastings, it was in a town called Battle. Is the town called Battle named after the Battle of Hastings?
26:24 Speaker 04 Yeah.
26:25 Speaker 03 That didn't take place in Hastings?
26:27 Speaker 04 I think so, yeah.
26:27 Speaker 03 Is Battle near Hastings?
26:28 Speaker 04 Yeah, it's quite near.
26:29 Speaker 03 Right.
26:30 Speaker 04 It's still in the phrase, isn't it? The Battle of Hastings.
26:32 Speaker 03 Yeah. How far away?
26:35 Speaker 04 It's like it was in a town called Off.
26:36 Speaker 03 How far away is Battle from Hastings? That's a good fact though, Joe.
26:40 Speaker 04 Yeah.
26:41 Speaker 03 I know I was being silly and stuff.
26:42 Speaker 04 No, no, it's all right. And, um, and also I just, you know, I think, um, interesting that Keane are from there. I don't know, I've never.
26:48 Speaker 03 Have you been to Hastings?
26:50 Speaker 04 Yes.
26:50 Speaker 03 I had a, I had a, um, caravan holiday there when I was a kid. Loved it.
26:56 Speaker 04 It's nice. It's a good old.
26:57 Speaker 03 Cobbley Beach though, if I remember rightly.
26:59 Speaker 04 Yeah, you kind of want sand ideally.
27:02 Speaker 03 I might be misremembering if the people of Hastings are listening to this and going, uh, no, we don't. We have a sandy beach. I have, I'm going back to.
27:11 Speaker 04 It could have been militarily significant of course.
27:12 Speaker 03 When I was like seven.
27:14 Speaker 04 Yeah. You're saying that it might have eroded into sand.
27:16 Speaker 03 It might have done.
27:17 Speaker 04 It might have done. So.
27:19 Speaker 03 I'm going back a few years, probably sandy now.
27:21 Speaker 04 Yeah, it would be, yeah, yeah. Imagine that, imagine.
27:25 Speaker 03 It's an 18 minute drive.
27:27 Speaker 04 18 minute drive, okay.
27:29 Speaker 03 Yeah, so.
27:29 Speaker 04 And also I think we would say that in terms of, that's a long way in 1066.
27:35 Speaker 03 Yeah, yeah.
27:36 Speaker 04 I mean, if, if somebody, if, if Harold had said, don't worry, it's an 18 minute drive.
27:41 Speaker 03 Yeah.
27:42 Speaker 04 They would have said, wait, you mean what?
27:44 Speaker 03 That was the problem, Harold turned up at Hastings.
27:46 Speaker 04 Harold went to the wrong.
27:48 Speaker 03 Because, because he read the flyer and it said Battle of Hastings.
27:50 Speaker 04 It said Battle of Hastings.
27:51 Speaker 03 And so it was like, right, we'd better set off to Hastings. Cause he'd just come from up north, hadn't he?
27:56 Speaker 04 It was probably a, one of those.
27:57 Speaker 03 What was he doing up north? Was it Vikings or something like that?
27:59 Speaker 04 He was fighting, um, Harold Hardrada. I did this in junior school.
28:03 Speaker 03 Yeah.
28:03 Speaker 04 And yeah, the.
28:05 Speaker 03 Cause he wasn't that secure, was he? His place wasn't that secure, Harold. And that's where William the Bastard.
28:13 Speaker 04 Yeah.
28:13 Speaker 03 Came in because a lot of the noblemen and stuff were like.
28:16 Speaker 04 Yeah.
28:16 Speaker 03 Yeah, you've got like a very loose claim, but.
28:20 Speaker 04 Yeah.
28:20 Speaker 03 Come on over, we'll support you.
28:22 Speaker 04 Yeah, yeah. Um, yeah, that's true.
28:24 Speaker 03 Keane released their single, This Is The Last Time on Battle Of Hastings Eve.
28:29 Speaker 04 Yeah, so they were trying to get Battle Of Hastings number one.
28:32 Speaker 03 They were, absolutely were.
28:33 Speaker 04 I see you, Keane. You make out like you don't care about Battle Of Hastings number one. Why are you bringing it out on Battle Of Hastings Eve?
28:39 Speaker 03 Joe?
28:40 Speaker 04 Yeah.
28:40 Speaker 03 Shall we move on to fact check?
28:42 Speaker 04 Yeah.
28:43 Speaker 03 Um, this is the part of the podcast where you send in something that feels like a fact. I love that saying.
28:51 Speaker 03 That feels like a fact. My brain says that to me so many times throughout the day. Basically, you send us in a fact that feels like it's true and you'd like us to verify it.
29:01 Speaker 04 Yeah.
29:01 Speaker 03 Because we are, we're the fact boys.
29:02 Speaker 04 Yep.
29:03 Speaker 03 We are the fact boys.
29:04 Speaker 04 Fact boys, yeah.
29:04 Speaker 03 The FBs.
29:05 Speaker 04 Yeah.
29:06 Speaker 03 Um, so we'll be reading a fact that you've sent us, or a question that you'd like us to get to the bottom of. Bums.
29:13 Speaker 04 Oh.
29:13 Speaker 03 Uh, and then.
29:15 Speaker 04 Unintended.
29:16 Speaker 03 We're going to.
29:17 Speaker 04 Unintended.
29:18 Speaker 03 We're going to have a good think during the ad break when we come back. We're gonna have a jolly good thing.
29:22 Speaker 04 Good think.
29:23 Speaker 03 And, uh, and we'll come back and let you know how true it feels to us. And we'll decide. We won't look anything up. In the first episode, I think we like, actually did some work, didn't we? Now we're just going to discuss and decide without any kind of.
29:38 Speaker 04 No, you need to think of me and James as like, when like Galileo was hauled before the Inquisition.
29:45 Speaker 03 Hmm.
29:45 Speaker 04 And he went, well, I'm saying this is true because I've proved it scientifically. And we're going, well, we're saying it's not true because we're in fucking charge.
29:51 Speaker 03 Yeah.
29:52 Speaker 04 And so think of us like that.
29:53 Speaker 03 Do you know what, Joe? I think, I don't think you needed to say that.
29:55 Speaker 04 All right.
29:56 Speaker 03 I think everyone already, when they listen to this podcast. They're, in the back of their mind, it's Galileo being hauled in front of the, the Inquisition. Joe, do you want to read this week's fact?
30:07 Speaker 04 Okay, here we go. So this week's fact check comes from Si. Oh, my namesake.
30:12 Speaker 03 Interesting.
30:12 Speaker 04 Hmm. Hey, Joe and James. I like to be conscious with my calorific intake.
30:18 Speaker 03 Me too.
30:19 Speaker 04 Yeah, you know, these days, we all think about it.
30:22 Speaker 03 I haven't been lately.
30:25 Speaker 04 Um, it's all right.
30:26 Speaker 03 Okay.
30:27 Speaker 04 And I, I heard once that Guinness was the healthiest beer. I told you that. And it has the least calories.
30:34 Speaker 03 Hmm.
30:35 Speaker 04 I've never checked. But now, well, you're checking now. So you don't, you won't need to now. But now always order a Guinness based off that fact. What do you reckon?
30:46 Speaker 03 Well.
30:46 Speaker 04 Right.
30:47 Speaker 03 Si, thank you very much for your message.
30:49 Speaker 04 We're gonna have a good think.
30:50 Speaker 03 And that, that is an interesting fact.
30:52 Speaker 04 What do they call Guinness? They call it a pint of, there's an Irish.
30:55 Speaker 03 Oh.
30:56 Speaker 04 Go on.
30:56 Speaker 03 We'll discuss. We'll discuss after the break.
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32:53 Speaker 03 Okay, we are back. Welcome back to Joe and James Fact Up. Just before the break there, we had Si, who gave us a fascinating fact. Yep. He decided that Guinness was the healthiest of the beers. He heard that there was a low...
33:13 Speaker 03 The it had the least amount of calories.
33:15 Speaker 04 Yeah, okay.
33:16 Speaker 03 I feel like, um, just thinking about this, I feel like it's quite a thick beer, is there?
33:22 Speaker 04 Yeah.
33:23 Speaker 03 I don't like Guinness. However, I feel like he might be getting mixed up with how with the fact that it's hot. It's there's a lot of iron in it.
33:30 Speaker 04 Yeah, well, no. So one, two things occurred to me straight away. Uh, one is that, um.
33:35 Speaker 03 If you're anemic.
33:36 Speaker 04 Yeah, well, I said, for example, I feel like my mum told me that she had a pint of Guinness a day when she was pregnant.
33:42 Speaker 03 Me, yeah.
33:43 Speaker 04 Because it has the iron in it.
33:44 Speaker 03 Yeah, Claire was anemic.
33:46 Speaker 04 Yeah.
33:47 Speaker 03 Throughout.
33:47 Speaker 04 Yeah.
33:47 Speaker 03 I think she's just anemic anyway.
33:49 Speaker 04 Yeah, yeah.
33:50 Speaker 03 But it became a problem when she was pregnant with both our kids.
33:53 Speaker 04 Yeah.
33:54 Speaker 03 And, um, she had to take these little, I mean, they've updated it nowadays.
33:58 Speaker 04 Yeah.
33:59 Speaker 03 It was a little sachet that you rip open, you put the powder and you put in water. Whereas back in the day, it was have a pint of Guinness.
34:06 Speaker 04 Yeah, absolutely. And, uh, so, I mean, it's got iron in it. I I mean, I have to say the other thing that occurred to me was that when I was a teenage boy, the urban myth was that it had as many calories as a roast dinner. So I so I've heard, so I suppose what I'm saying is I've heard the exact opposite about. I think the I I think Si is definitely off the mark with this calorie thing.
34:34 Speaker 03 Yeah.
34:35 Speaker 04 I think I think I think, um, perhaps it is good for you. What can I say? What's the thing? They call it a pint of in Ireland that it's a what they call it up? It's like a pint of brave or something or.
34:46 Speaker 03 Oh, is that right?
34:47 Speaker 04 There's something that.
34:47 Speaker 03 It's stout, isn't it?
34:49 Speaker 04 Yeah, it's a type of stout, but there's a there's a slang for Guinness where it's a word. Um, not the black stuff, something else. It's like. No, it's like a pint of pride or something. Is it proud of pride? Is that right?
35:02 Speaker 03 Do you know about?
35:02 Speaker 04 Pint of plane. I think it's that. A plan.
35:05 Speaker 03 Plan.
35:05 Speaker 04 Pint of plan. Yeah, that's it. It's a plan. Pint of plan.
35:09 Speaker 03 I'm saying forced.
35:10 Speaker 04 We found out. We found out it's a pint of plan. I'm really happy with that.
35:12 Speaker 03 That was really good.
35:13 Speaker 04 That's something I wanted to know.
35:14 Speaker 03 Yeah.
35:15 Speaker 04 Um, in terms of what Si wanted to know, um, it feels. I'm gonna say actually highly false. I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't think, I think.
35:23 Speaker 03 It doesn't feel true to me.
35:26 Speaker 04 I would say not only is it the lowest calorific intake.
35:29 Speaker 03 Um. It's one of the highest.
35:31 Speaker 04 I believe it is perhaps the highest. Frankly, I think, I think the only point of contention I've ever heard with Guinness is we know it's the highest, but just how many fucking calories are in this shit?
35:40 Speaker 03 Yeah.
35:40 Speaker 04 I'm not gonna say shit, it's really nice, but like, but, but, but, um, so yeah, I mean, it's quite, yeah.
35:46 Speaker 03 So you're saying there's more calories in a Guinness than, than a lager?
35:50 Speaker 04 Oh, yeah. I think there are. Yeah. Yeah. When I was temping, um.
35:56 Speaker 03 It's the second time you've brought up how you were temping.
35:58 Speaker 04 Yeah.
35:59 Speaker 03 In this podcast.
35:59 Speaker 04 I used to, I used to have a, on a Friday.
36:02 Speaker 03 Yeah.
36:02 Speaker 04 When everyone go to the pub.
36:04 Speaker 03 Sure.
36:05 Speaker 04 I used to get, I used to have a Guinness.
36:06 Speaker 03 A little Guinness.
36:07 Speaker 04 Yeah.
36:07 Speaker 03 For you. Guinness and black, little drop of blackcurrant, maybe?
36:10 Speaker 04 Oh, maybe, no.
36:11 Speaker 03 I've never had that before.
36:12 Speaker 04 I kind of thought it was like, it's like lunch then, isn't it?
36:15 Speaker 03 Yeah, absolutely.
36:16 Speaker 04 Yeah.
36:17 Speaker 03 Um, sorry, Si. Hey, listen, man, come back with another fact if you've got one for us. Um, but that hasn't passed our fact check.
36:25 Speaker 04 No, no.
36:25 Speaker 03 That one.
36:25 Speaker 04 No, sorry.
36:26 Speaker 03 Unfortunately. Is that the first time that we've not passed one? Feel bad. Should we just say it's true anyway? I don't wanna, I don't wanna make Si feel bad. If he wants to carry on drinking Guinness, then I, then I, I support what you're doing, but you need to be proud of the fact that you're drinking Guinness and not try and, not shy away, not be ashamed. In fact, it makes you sound like you're a bit ashamed that you're drinking Guinness, cause it's like, well, I drink Guinness because I've heard that it's less calories. Just fucking enjoy yourself.
36:52 Speaker 04 It's fine.
36:52 Speaker 03 Don't worry about the calories. Don't you worry about the calories at all.
36:55 Speaker 04 I think, you know, you've come to us with this, Si, but I think there's something else going on.
37:00 Speaker 03 Hmm.
37:02 Speaker 03 So let's know.
37:03 Speaker 04 So right back in.
37:05 Speaker 03 Let us know how you're getting on, mate.
37:06 Speaker 04 Be more honest.
37:06 Speaker 03 Yeah.
37:07 Speaker 04 About.
37:07 Speaker 03 Let us know how much Guinness you're drinking, actually.
37:11 Speaker 04 Yeah. Yeah. How healthy are you being?
37:14 Speaker 03 Because too much, too much of anything.
37:17 Speaker 04 Yeah.
37:18 Speaker 03 Because if you're, if you're, if you're thought, if you're thinking is, well, there's less calories, so I can drink more.
37:23 Speaker 04 Yeah.
37:24 Speaker 03 Then maybe.
37:25 Speaker 04 Yeah.
37:26 Speaker 03 Maybe we need to have a little chat, so.
37:28 Speaker 04 Um, but it's all fine.
37:30 Speaker 03 Hey.
37:30 Speaker 04 Whatever's happening, you can tell us.
37:33 Speaker 03 JT.
37:33 Speaker 04 We'll read it out.
37:34 Speaker 03 We will.
37:35 Speaker 04 The pod.
37:38 Speaker 03 JT, can I give you my fact for the week?
37:41 Speaker 04 Yes, please.
37:41 Speaker 03 Of course, it's a, it's the Battle of Hastings.
37:44 Speaker 04 Course it is.
37:45 Speaker 03 Fact for you.
37:46 Speaker 04 BOHF.
37:47 Speaker 03 Just a quick one, and this is brilliant. William the Conqueror.
37:52 Speaker 04 Yeah.
37:52 Speaker 03 Ripped his helmet off during battle.
37:54 Speaker 04 Oh.
37:55 Speaker 03 Ouch.
37:56 Speaker 04 Oh, you mean accidentally?
37:57 Speaker 03 Oof. He ripped his helmet off during battle.
38:01 Speaker 04 Do you mean the, do you mean the, oh, I see. Oh, I see.
38:08 Speaker 04 Oh, okay, okay.
38:10 Speaker 03 No, at the Battle of, at the Battle of Hastings.
38:12 Speaker 04 Yeah.
38:13 Speaker 03 William the Conqueror literally had to prove to his own men that he wasn't dead in the middle of the fight. There was a rumor going around that he'd been killed, so to keep morale up, he ripped off his helmet.
38:26 Speaker 04 Either one would get morale up.
38:28 Speaker 03 Road along.
38:31 Speaker 04 Do you know what, lads?
38:32 Speaker 03 That would fire me up.
38:33 Speaker 04 I know, it'd be like, fucking hell, I'm, well, fair enough, I guess, I'm not hurting compared to that.
38:39 Speaker 03 If he just ripped his helmet off and went, come, follow me!
38:41 Speaker 04 Come on, fuck it. That'd be the ultimate fuck it, wouldn't it?
38:45 Speaker 03 If he ripped his helmet off and rubbed it over his face and covered himself in blood.
38:48 Speaker 04 No, look, nothing matters. Look, I've ripped that off.
38:51 Speaker 03 Yeah.
38:51 Speaker 04 Nothing matters.
38:52 Speaker 03 What would that guy do, that philosopher?
38:54 Speaker 04 What would he, oh, Jesus Christ.
38:56 Speaker 03 What would he do? He broke his finger and he killed himself.
38:58 Speaker 04 I know. I know.
39:00 Speaker 03 What if he'd ripped his helmet off?
39:02 Speaker 04 I mean, unbelievable.
39:03 Speaker 03 I mean, I think even now, I'm only 38 and I think if I ripped my helmet off, I'd go, well, there's not much left to live for anymore.
39:08 Speaker 04 Yeah, exactly.
39:09 Speaker 03 I'll be honest with you, Joe, I've not got much to rip off down there, so fucking...
39:13 Speaker 04 Yeah. In a way, you'd be reassured.
39:15 Speaker 03 Oh, I'd be gutted.
39:17 Speaker 04 Yeah, yeah. So they thought he was dead?
39:20 Speaker 03 They thought he was dead, he ripped his helmet off, and I've got to stop saying ripped his helmet off.
39:25 Speaker 04 No, you don't.
39:26 Speaker 03 He took, I was just doing that for a joke, but...
39:27 Speaker 04 No, honest, I, I, you know what?
39:29 Speaker 03 But he took his...
39:30 Speaker 04 It's a good joke.
39:30 Speaker 03 He took his helmet off.
39:32 Speaker 04 He took it off.
39:34 Speaker 03 He took his helmet off and he shouted, he was riding along going, look, look, he was shouting, "Look at me, I'm alive."
39:42 Speaker 04 Oh.
39:43 Speaker 03 There you go, William the Conqueror, William the, well, William the Bastard, he would have been called then, ripped his helmet off.
39:49 Speaker 04 Yeah.
39:49 Speaker 03 Mid battle. Oof, that's gonna sting, isn't it?
39:52 Speaker 04 Ooh. Oh, sounds like he was a bit keen. Just a bit keen. Just a bit keen, Pan.
40:01 Speaker 03 Sure.
40:02 Speaker 04 They weren't there, were they? If they had been there, they could have banged the drum, don't they? The drummer.
40:07 Speaker 03 Yeah, absolutely.
40:08 Speaker 04 That would have been his job.
40:09 Speaker 03 Well, he wouldn't, the morale wouldn't have dropped.
40:12 Speaker 04 A drummer and a singer are both things that you have in an army. Not so much the-
40:16 Speaker 03 Is Keen the band that doesn't have a guitarist?
40:20 Speaker 04 I think they've got a piano player. Yeah, they're sort of, they're piano ballads, aren't they?
40:23 Speaker 03 Right, yeah.
40:24 Speaker 04 Yeah. I imagine that doesn't wash with your sort of-
40:27 Speaker 03 They need a guitar. You've got to have a little guitar in there. Hey, also, Keen-
40:31 Speaker 04 They can't afford one.
40:32 Speaker 03 Well, I'm your guy.
40:34 Speaker 04 You've got to be careful these days. Lot of bands-
40:35 Speaker 03 Hang on a minute, I'm gonna try and go, I'm just gonna try and get in the band Keen there.
40:38 Speaker 04 Okay, okay, okay.
40:40 Speaker 03 I've heard you need a guitarist.
40:41 Speaker 04 Yep.
40:42 Speaker 03 I'll come. I'll be the, I'll be the guitarist for you.
40:46 Speaker 03 Right. Dominic Scott.
40:48 Speaker 04 Dominic Scott.
40:49 Speaker 03 I bet he's kicking himself now.
40:50 Speaker 04 Yeah, absolutely.
40:51 Speaker 03 I bet he was going, "Somewhere only we go." No one's gonna listen to that.
40:55 Speaker 04 Yeah, yeah.
40:57 Speaker 03 And to be honest, I've heard the song and I'd be like, "Yeah, I don't think anyone's gonna listen to it." Fucking massive, fucking massive hit.
41:05 Speaker 04 Yeah.
41:05 Speaker 03 What do I know?
41:06 Speaker 04 So he left and they just, the wound just kind of closed up around him.
41:10 Speaker 03 They just, uh, they sutured.
41:13 Speaker 04 And they sutured the wound and it carried on.
41:17 Speaker 04 Who could leave? I don't know what point I'm making here.
41:21 Speaker 03 Go on.
41:24 Speaker 04 Is it interesting to say which instruments could leave and it wouldn't matter or which would matter? It's not really interesting.
41:28 Speaker 03 I think you know the answer to that question, don't you, Joe? Hey, have we done enough? Have we done enough podcasts?
41:36 Speaker 03 I'm getting from you, from your vibe, from the way that you're sighing and stuff.
41:41 Speaker 04 No, I'm not. I want to carry on.
41:42 Speaker 03 No, well, I'm glad you have that attitude.
41:45 Speaker 04 Yeah.
41:46 Speaker 03 Because we've got to do another episode.
41:47 Speaker 04 Yeah.
41:47 Speaker 03 Straight after this.
41:48 Speaker 04 Yeah, yeah.
41:49 Speaker 03 But I don't know about you, Joe, but I'm all fact out.
41:51 Speaker 04 Oh, I'm absolutely fact out to my tits, mate.
41:55 Speaker 03 I have had my brains fact out.
41:57 Speaker 04 I'm just lying back. My brain's been fact out and now I'm just lying there, like, just fucking ruined.
42:03 Speaker 03 Absolutely. Just, we've been, we've been destroyed. Um, thank you to Si.
42:10 Speaker 04 My husband's been away on an oil rig.
42:13 Speaker 03 Thank you.
42:14 Speaker 04 And he's come back and it's the first night and fucking hell.
42:17 Speaker 03 Um, thank you to Si for getting in touch with your facts.
42:21 Speaker 04 Okay.
42:21 Speaker 03 Um, just because, just because we didn't verify, just because we didn't back your facts up this week, doesn't mean you have to stop getting in touch, Si. It was a good fact. I liked it.
42:31 Speaker 04 Keep getting in touch with whatever else you like. Sugar's the healthiest food or something, whatever.
42:35 Speaker 03 We do hope, um, that, we do hope that you've learned something this week, dear listener. We'll be back next week armed with more facts, chats and hats.
42:46 Speaker 04 Oh.
42:47 Speaker 03 That's the worst one.
42:48 Speaker 07 No, I always thought with the tax, I thought that's worked on many levels.
42:55 Speaker 04 Good point, actually. It's fair enough.
42:58 Speaker 03 Hurtful. Um, don't forget that you can get in touch with us if you'd like us to fact check something that feels true to you.
43:05 Speaker 04 Yeah.
43:05 Speaker 03 Uh, or whatever nonsense that you want to.
43:07 Speaker 04 Yeah.
43:08 Speaker 03 Whatever nonsense message you want to get to us. Our email address is [email protected] . We've got a little WhatsApp group going on.
43:17 Speaker 04 Yep.
43:17 Speaker 03 It's, uh, our number is 07822034330. And of course, you can follow us on social media. Our, you can find us, our name is at joandjamespod.
43:30 Speaker 03 On all the socials. And if you didn't understand anything I said just then, and I wouldn't blame you. You can, you can check the podcast description for those details. Anyway, Joe, shall we go fact off?
43:43 Speaker 04 Yeah, I think we'll go to Hastings or just don't worry about it.
43:47 Speaker 03 Yeah, we will. Hey, guys, thank you so much for listening. We'll be back next week with another episode and of course, happy Battle of Hastings Day.
43:56 Speaker 04 Happy BH day.
43:57 Speaker 03 Yes, God bless us one and all.
44:00 Speaker 04 Yes.
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