Sparkling Water is a D******

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• 0:00Speaker 00

  Hi, it's Danny Pellegrino from Everything Iconic. 12 celebrities, one Don and cold hard cash. From the producers of The Traitors comes The Mob, a new Hulu original series. The iconic Parker Posey hosts this unique reality competition show where 12 celebrity contestants shake down in an Italian villa to win a share of up to $250,000. Watch the new Hulu original series, The Mob, premiering October 26th on Hulu and Hulu on Disney+ for bundle subscribers. Terms apply.

• 0:35Speaker 01

  You know, something I find just mystifying is there's all these different categories of rubbish. I'm quite interested in rubbish.

• 0:42Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 0:42Speaker 01

  And

• 0:43Speaker 00

  Yeah, me too.

• 0:43Speaker 01

  I take metals down to the tip, huge hopper, like the whole of the back of a lorry.

• 0:51Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 0:52Speaker 01

  Wood, again, huge thing. Plastic bags, forget about it. No, nothing at the tip. And a thing that's basically the size of a postbox at Waitrose for like, I reckon 15,000 people who live around there have just got that. What the fuck is that? Why don't understand? Why are we not, why does the tip not do, it's not like that's a small category.

• 1:17Speaker 00

  My tip's quite good where I live.

• 1:19Speaker 01

  No, mine's good as well. It's just it doesn't do.

• 1:21Speaker 00

  It's all basically those, they're not, they're not ship containers, but they're the same sort of thing. So they can just be lifted and put straight onto lorries and stuff. And it's all those size stuff.

• 1:35Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:35Speaker 00

  For everything.

• 1:36Speaker 01

  Can you do plastic bags?

• 1:38Speaker 00

  Yes. Yeah.

• 1:40Speaker 01

  Yeah. I don't know why we can't do plastic bags. Oh, and plastic bags are like a gigantic category of rubbish, one of the worst possible things for the environment. And I don't understand why, like the, the, the only place I can recycle plastic bags is in like super, why supermarket is in charge of it? And also the supermarket.

• 2:00Speaker 00

  Also, they don't want him back either. They're like, we just fucking got rid of them.

• 2:04Speaker 01

  What is that? They're trying to get rid of it?

• 2:05Speaker 00

  Do you think Sainsbury's has a great big massive drawer full of plastic bags?

• 2:09Speaker 01

  They must have a huge drawer.

• 2:10Speaker 00

  And they're sort of trying to get rid of them.

• 2:12Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:13Speaker 00

  So they've got like a tiny little recycle bin outside. We don't fucking.

• 2:17Speaker 01

  Sainsbury's are just taking them to Waitrose. That's the thing. They're just, that's, that's all that's happening there. It's, um, it's a nightmare.

• 2:26Speaker 00

  Anyway.

• 2:26Speaker 01

  It is, it's absolutely baffling. But honestly, the thing, thing in the supermarket is about the size of a postbox. And I mean, this is London. I assume that honestly, 10,000 people are using that as their main place to recycle plastic bags. How is that the system? And every other category, you have this gigantic thing, the size of a shipping container for stuff like wood. I mean, I'm sure people, what was the, the last thing you wanted to get rid of? Was it a plastic bag or was it a piece of wood? I guarantee you it's a plastic bag.

• 2:57Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:57Speaker 01

  It's ridiculous. I don't.

• 2:58Speaker 00

  Well, they do have plastic bags. Can they, can they be recycled?

• 3:00Speaker 01

  They can be recycled. So just fucking recycle them. I don't think like you can either, if you can do it. It's like inventing the car and saying, how many cars do you want? I don't know, four?

• 3:10Speaker 00

  It's the best thing to do though. Just use it again and again though. Is that probably the best thing to do?

• 3:15Speaker 01

  Yeah, that is the best thing to do. I do try and do that. There's loads of plastic bags in the back of my car. But then I drive to the supermarket and then forget to take them out of there.

• 3:23Speaker 00

  I've just got loads of, I would genuinely just call them bags. They've got zips on them and all sorts. And they're like got cool, they keep food cool and stuff. They're like a big version of like a posh lunchbox.

• 3:38Speaker 01

  Oh, I know those things.

• 3:39Speaker 00

  Yeah. So I always think, take those to the shop with me or keep them in the car or something. I never fucking do. I end up buying another one.

• 3:47Speaker 01

  Yeah, I know. Well, yeah, yeah. I know. That's, yeah, we've, I've got into that as well where it's like, I've got, before I used to have just lots of plastic bags and now I just have lots and lots of much thicker plastic bags.

• 3:59Speaker 00

  Bags for life.

• 4:00Speaker 01

  Bags for life. Yeah.

• 4:02Speaker 00

  Bags for life. I'm gonna get that tattooed on my chest. Bags for life.

• 4:08Speaker 01

  Pop that in the wedding vows.

• 4:09Speaker 00

  Bags till I die.

• 4:10Speaker 01

  You are my bag for life.

• 4:12Speaker 00

  You are my bag for life, Claire.

• 4:16Speaker 01

  I'll never throw you away, even when you're, you know, even when there's better bags.

• 4:20Speaker 00

  Even when you're getting a bit tatty.

• 4:22Speaker 01

  Yeah. I'll keep using you.

• 4:25Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 4:27Speaker 01

  For the shopping.

• 4:28Speaker 00

  Yeah. Been up to much this week, Joseph?

• 4:31Speaker 01

  Um, have I done? Um, have I done? Not really. Just, no, no, again, no, not honestly, not particularly. If I, ah, I did, I feel like I've achieved something. Oh God. Well, I have been to the tip.

• 4:50Speaker 00

  Yeah, of course.

• 4:51Speaker 01

  Um, I have achieved something. What have I achieved?

• 4:55Speaker 00

  The tip's a good one.

• 4:57Speaker 01

  I got rid of a load of, I got rid of a load of like leaves and.

• 5:02Speaker 00

  Really?

• 5:03Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 5:04Speaker 00

  You've been going through the garden?

• 5:06Speaker 01

  Yeah, I trimmed the, um, the hedge at the front.

• 5:09Speaker 00

  Right.

• 5:09Speaker 01

  It generates so much, um, like foliage.

• 5:13Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 5:14Speaker 01

  It's really, it really is a lot. So I, I took all that and I got rid of, I got rid of an old ladder.

• 5:23Speaker 00

  Oh jeez.

• 5:26Speaker 01

  God. Is this, uh, is this good? Hello? And.

• 5:33Speaker 00

  I got rid of an old ladder. That's the title. Making note of that. Went to the tip, got rid of an old ladder this week.

• 5:40Speaker 01

  It was just the metal, the, um.

• 5:42Speaker 00

  This week on Fag's. No, listen, I'm really struggling.

• 5:44Speaker 01

  It's just been too hot. It's been too hot, honestly. And you can't do anything. I mean, it's hot today. And it keeps on, um, you know what? Do you know, does anyone remember a song?

• 5:53Speaker 00

  Turn their MacBook on.

• 5:54Speaker 01

  It's all right. Well, something's gonna happen.

• 5:56Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 5:57Speaker 01

  I mean.

• 5:57Speaker 00

  That was exciting, wasn't it?

• 5:58Speaker 01

  (singing)

• 5:59Speaker 00

  I've just been, I've just been working this week. I've got like, no, nothing funny happened.

• 6:03Speaker 01

  Yeah, you've been working. Yeah.

• 6:05Speaker 00

  How's that going? Good. I finished. I finished.

• 6:07Speaker 01

  Finished. Um, the weather this week has reminded me of, because the weather forecast keeps on saying, like it will rain on Tuesday and then you check in. So like five days before it'll say there's some rain coming. In five days it will rain. It's like somebody fucking you around about an invoice or something. It's like you'll have your money in five days and then you get to the day before and it's like, oh, it's gone away. And it reminds me of just, there's a, I mean, just because I, it reminds, there's a song, um, by, um, by JJ72. This is about honestly 25 years old.

• 6:44Speaker 00

  Right.

• 6:45Speaker 01

  And it goes, "Why won't it snow like they said it would?" So I'm like, I feel like that's in my head, but with rain.

• 6:54Speaker 00

  Right.

• 6:54Speaker 01

  Why won't it rain like they said it would?

• 6:57Speaker 00

  You're odd, aren't you?

• 6:58Speaker 01

  Do you remember, do you remember JJ72? They were, they did.

• 7:00Speaker 00

  Never heard of any of that.

• 7:01Speaker 01

  They did one album. They were quite good.

• 7:02Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 7:03Speaker 01

  They're quite good.

• 7:03Speaker 00

  What sort of genre?

• 7:05Speaker 01

  Indie.

• 7:06Speaker 00

  Indie.

• 7:07Speaker 01

  But not sort of Strokes indie, more like Coldplay indie at the time.

• 7:11Speaker 00

  Right, okay.

• 7:12Speaker 01

  Uh, and, um, I remember an article in like NME that was like, indie's back. JJ72, Coldplay, Crashland. And it was like, I remember that point. I was like, oh, one of them, one of them might become big.

• 7:30Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 7:31Speaker 01

  I like JJ72 anyway. They just didn't, I haven't, I don't know who Crashland are. But that's, that's a unbelievable as well, actually. Crashland, Crashland. Where are you from? Crashland. But also we crash landed.

• 7:45Speaker 01

  Oh dear. It has been so hot. It's honestly been so hot. I'm just waiting until it stops. I'm just waiting until.

• 7:50Speaker 00

  Um, I'm getting, I am getting air conditioning for my house, but the specific unit that I want, it won't be available until it gets cooler. But I've just said to Claire, I said, no, we're doing it every year. For the last five years at least, I've gone, we've got to get air conditioning. We've got to get, and then it gets a bit cooler and you go and you forget all about it.

• 8:10Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 8:10Speaker 00

  But this year I'm gonna follow through. I'm gonna actually do it. I'm gonna, even if it does get a bit cooler.

• 8:16Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 8:16Speaker 00

  And I'm, and we've missed the summer. Next summer, I'll be thanking.

• 8:21Speaker 01

  They'll be thanking you.

• 8:22Speaker 00

  I'll be thanking 2026.

• 8:24Speaker 01

  2026, James.

• 8:25Speaker 00

  James.

• 8:25Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 8:26Speaker 00

  Forgot what fucking year it was.

• 8:27Speaker 01

  JJ72. Yeah.

• 8:28Speaker 00

  JJ72.

• 8:30Speaker 01

  JJ26. Um, it is 2026, isn't it? We've got all these spices in our house that are for like 28. I don't know what is this? This feels like we've run out.

• 8:42Speaker 00

  We've really.

• 8:43Speaker 01

  The old spices?

• 8:45Speaker 00

  We've really run out.

• 8:47Speaker 01

  No, I've got some garam masala.

• 8:49Speaker 00

  Do you know what?

• 8:49Speaker 01

  This is 2023. And I feel like I've just bought it. I've already bought that garam masala.

• 8:53Speaker 00

  I was genuinely a bit worried coming in today because I was like.

• 8:56Speaker 01

  I feel like I've only just seen you. We've done so many at the moment.

• 9:00Speaker 00

  Not only have I not, not only have I not got anything to say, and I was worried about that. Um, I just was like, ah, we always think of something. We always think of something and we always have thought of something. And today's the day.

• 9:13Speaker 01

  We really have run out.

• 9:15Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 9:15Speaker 01

  We have run out.

• 9:16Speaker 00

  It's Pete's last day as well, isn't it? Is it this, is it this week or next week?

• 9:20Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 9:20Speaker 00

  All right. Thank God. I don't want to send Pete away.

• 9:22Speaker 01

  Okay, we'll try and.

• 9:23Speaker 00

  This being Pete's last memories of Joe and James packed up.

• 9:26Speaker 01

  Pete, this week I'm gonna go on like a mini break or something. So I've got something to talk about next week.

• 9:32Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 9:32Speaker 01

  What else is there?

• 9:33Speaker 00

  I've literally just been at work. Like I've just been, um, I've either been doing a podcast.

• 9:39Speaker 01

  Are you in a, are you in a three-way? Is your, is your trailer a three-way? In one of them?

• 9:43Speaker 00

  Two-way.

• 9:44Speaker 01

  Two-way?

• 9:44Speaker 00

  Traditional, quite more, bit more.

• 9:46Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's nice.

• 9:46Speaker 00

  Bit more traditional.

• 9:47Speaker 01

  That's one of those three ways weird. There was.

• 9:48Speaker 00

  As God intended.

• 9:49Speaker 01

  They, there's a little, yeah, sure. Yeah. Yeah.

• 9:59Speaker 02

  Well, you do have something to talk about because when this episode comes out, it's the day before the anniversary of your Hastings episode.

• 10:05Speaker 00

  Is that right? Jesus Christ. It's been a year.

• 10:09Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm. Well, when this goes out.

• 10:11Speaker 00

  Yeah. Butler Hastings Day is coming up again.

• 10:14Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 10:14Speaker 00

  What are you doing for Butler Hastings Day this year, Joe?

• 10:17Speaker 01

  Um.

• 10:18Speaker 00

  We should, when is.

• 10:19Speaker 01

  You know, it's so funny. Every year, I think next year, maybe I'll hire a big house and like we'll all go there. We'll cook.

• 10:28Speaker 00

  The whole family.

• 10:29Speaker 01

  And then it just creeps up on you again and you're like, oh, I guess just everyone around my mum and dad's again, I suppose.

• 10:35Speaker 00

  Maybe we should go to battle. Maybe.

• 10:37Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 10:38Speaker 00

  Maybe we should do an episode.

• 10:40Speaker 01

  A live, an outside broadcast?

• 10:42Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 10:43Speaker 01

  Hello?

• 10:44Speaker 00

  We could get a tent or something.

• 10:47Speaker 01

  Yes, no, you go. Should we do it on a delay?

• 10:50Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 10:51Speaker 01

  So how was the weather like down there?

• 10:55Speaker 01

  I said, what's it? Yes, it's okay. Yes.

• 10:59Speaker 01

  Um, we could, yeah, maybe we should. I mean, I, I am, you know, keener from there.

• 11:06Speaker 00

  Oh, for fuck's sake.

• 11:07Speaker 01

  Well, they are. They're from keener from battle. What do you want me to say?

• 11:10Speaker 00

  Oh, God. The annoying thing is, right, listen, let's tell you where we're at, where me and Joe are at in our lives at the moment. The main thing that's taken, that's occupied our life is something we're not allowed to talk about legally.

• 11:20Speaker 01

  Yeah. So we're not allowed. Yeah. I mean, I'm just like, yeah, I can't talk about that.

• 11:23Speaker 00

  But I don't even know if we, I don't even know if by the time this episode comes out, that we'll be, that it would have been announced or not. It's a big mess. My life's all over the place at the moment.

• 11:33Speaker 01

  I don't actually know what sort of, um, I feel like I'm just really confused about like time at the moment.

• 11:38Speaker 00

  Me too, genuinely.

• 11:41Speaker 01

  I went back to my mum and dad's house and I was like, just sleeping in my old room. Um, this is because Hannah's, Hannah's been filming in, basically when Hannah, when Hannah has to work, I'm like, well, I'm not doing this, I don't care. My mum, my mum will do it. That's not quite, no, to be honest, I'm stitching myself up there.

• 11:59Speaker 00

  No, that's fine.

• 12:00Speaker 01

  I'm actually, I'm, I'm a good, I'm good at childcare, I think, but there are times where you're like, I just want somebody to help me a bit. And my mum and dad are really good at it. Uh, so I go back there and like, we stay there. But it's weird, you know, being in my old room and I was like, there was a book on the shelf and I was like, oh, I think I've read this when I was at university. And I was like, maybe I'll start reading it again now, because I feel like I never really, I was like, what are you doing? What are you doing with your life? What are you doing?

• 12:27Speaker 00

  What are you doing?

• 12:29Speaker 01

  No, I thought, um.

• 12:30Speaker 00

  Can you remember it?

• 12:32Speaker 01

  I've had a number of thoughts this week.

• 12:34Speaker 00

  Oh, you tell us, tell us about your thoughts, Joe. Is that really, we've only been talking for 15 minutes.

• 12:40Speaker 01

  Um, one of them is like, fuck redemption.

• 12:43Speaker 00

  Right.

• 12:45Speaker 01

  There's nothing more boring than somebody trying to redeem themselves.

• 12:48Speaker 00

  Well.

• 12:49Speaker 01

  Like, you know, a master chef, you know, a master chef where somebody goes like.

• 12:53Speaker 00

  Ironically proving you wrong.

• 12:55Speaker 01

  No, but like, when they, they go, oh, I'm going to cook this dish because I cooked this earlier in the competition. It didn't go well. I'm going to prove I can do it. That's so fucking boring. Just leave it. Just leave it. Don't, don't go back and try and.

• 13:07Speaker 00

  Never go back.

• 13:08Speaker 01

  Never go back, honestly. That, I've been thinking that. I've been thinking, um, I've got this little mantra in my head, um, HBO, which stands for hungry, bored, overwhelmed. And I'm like, that's how I feel if I'm left by myself. And I'm like, good, just sit with it.

• 13:24Speaker 00

  I've got.

• 13:25Speaker 01

  Are you hungry? Good. You've eaten too much. Are you bored? Good. You go on your phone too much. Are you overwhelmed? Fine. You should be overwhelmed.

• 13:31Speaker 00

  Right.

• 13:32Speaker 01

  So that's my little mantra. My other mantra, my third one, just try and be more positive.

• 13:37Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 13:38Speaker 01

  I'm always whining. I've been looking at the clips that we put up. I'm just having a go at everyone. I'm just, everyone, everything seems to piss me off.

• 13:43Speaker 00

  You should have saved this for Diary of a CEO, I think.

• 13:48Speaker 00

  It's kind of bullshit that they fucking talk. Cause that, Joe, and I love you to bits, that was, there was no consequence at all whatsoever. Try and be more positive. That's Joe's words of wisdom.

• 14:00Speaker 01

  I don't think I moan too much.

• 14:02Speaker 00

  Nothing wrong with that.

• 14:04Speaker 01

  It's my, I'm moaning, fine, I'll moan.

• 14:05Speaker 00

  That's my favourite hobby is moaning. I'm not happy unless I'm moaning.

• 14:09Speaker 01

  Here's a little moan.

• 14:10Speaker 00

  Go on.

• 14:10Speaker 01

  I like sparkling water.

• 14:12Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 14:12Speaker 01

  Every time I go and try and buy sparkling water from the till, they go, you know, this is sparkling. I'm like, yeah, what, what?

• 14:18Speaker 00

  Do you know what, man?

• 14:19Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah. Like, no one would want to buy it.

• 14:20Speaker 00

  Because, well.

• 14:21Speaker 01

  And also I'm not an idiot.

• 14:22Speaker 00

  I, I think most people don't want to, don't want sparkling water. I think you're in the minority, people that like, that like sparkling water. And I've, and I, and the, and the sparkling water is a little dickhead. Like, it does like sneak its way into things.

• 14:35Speaker 01

  I just.

• 14:36Speaker 00

  And it's the, it's an awful, it's a horrible experience when you think you're about to have some still water and it's sparkling.

• 14:41Speaker 01

  I think drinking still water is a horrible experience.

• 14:43Speaker 00

  But what if you didn't, what if you didn't know? What if you were just like, um, it was, it was just forced upon you without your consent? Unconsensual sparkling water is a fucking problem.

• 14:57Speaker 01

  No, I don't agree. I, well, no.

• 15:05Speaker 00

  Oh, Jesus. Right. Welcome to Joe and James Fact Up, a podcast loosely about facts, but is more about the chat. If you do want to get in touch, our email is hello at joeandjamespod.com. Our WhatsApp is 07822034330. Or you can follow us on our socials, at joeandjamespod. And you can watch all our episodes in full on YouTube and Apple Podcasts. Just search for Joe and James Fact Up. Now, let's get fact up.

• 15:36Speaker 00

  Hi, it's Danny Pellegrino from Everything Iconic. 12 celebrities, one Don and cold hard cash. From the producers of The Traitors comes The Mob, a new Hulu original series. The iconic Parker Posey hosts this unique reality competition show where 12 celebrity contestants shake down in an Italian villa to win a share of up to $250,000. Watch the new Hulu original series, The Mob, premiering October 26th on Hulu and Hulu on Disney Plus for bundle subscribers. Terms apply.

• 16:11Speaker 00

  I've got a question, first of all. Do, do, do podcasts take a break?

• 16:18Speaker 00

  Do they ever take a break?

• 16:23Speaker 00

  They don't do that.

• 16:23Speaker 01

  No, I feel like we actually do, if anything, less than some, some podcasts do two a week.

• 16:31Speaker 00

  It's mental.

• 16:33Speaker 01

  It's, I mean, we're quite long. I feel like we give people more than an hour generally.

• 16:37Speaker 00

  This one won't be long.

• 16:39Speaker 01

  No, this one won't be, no. But I do feel like there's quite a lot of shrinkflation going on. But I'm not sure that 26 minutes is really a podcast.

• 16:47Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 16:48Speaker 01

  I think they know.

• 16:48Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's fine.

• 16:49Speaker 01

  They know who they are as well.

• 16:51Speaker 00

  Right.

• 16:51Speaker 01

  It feels like it's one cut in half. We have a sort of Snickers duo.

• 16:56Speaker 01

  That's not two, is it?

• 16:57Speaker 00

  It's not, is it?

• 16:58Speaker 01

  As if that's two.

• 16:58Speaker 00

  It's two small ones, yeah.

• 16:59Speaker 01

  You're just trying to get around the fucking healthy eating rules, aren't you?

• 17:02Speaker 00

  Yeah. Yeah, as if I'm going to have one.

• 17:05Speaker 01

  Share it with your family.

• 17:06Speaker 00

  Yeah, as if, yeah, as if I'm going to share it with anyone and as if I'm going to have it later.

• 17:10Speaker 01

  Have it later.

• 17:12Speaker 00

  I remember when I was a kid.

• 17:13Speaker 01

  If you see half a Snickers duo, it literally means someone's died.

• 17:16Speaker 00

  I remember when, I remember when.

• 17:18Speaker 01

  That's evidence. Well, that is, that should be bagged up.

• 17:21Speaker 00

  I remember when I was a kid, I was about 14, 14 years old. I was at school still. And one of my mates went, oh, I fancy a double decker. Would you share it with me? And I went, who are you? Who the fucking hell are you? I've never heard a child talk like that before.

• 17:40Speaker 01

  No, that, that's, I think he was probably in a cult. I, but I, a double, did he think that a double decker was like, the idea was that it was double what you needed, so you.

• 17:50Speaker 00

  It's, he said it was a big, it was a big bar.

• 17:55Speaker 01

  Get something else then, you stupid little swat.

• 17:57Speaker 00

  He said it was a big bar, but he fancied a double decker, but he wouldn't, he couldn't possibly finish it.

• 18:02Speaker 01

  Oh, for, just fucking get yourself together, mate. Don't, no one should even hear those thoughts. That's like the kind of thing I'd say. Do you know what I mean? He shouldn't even.

• 18:11Speaker 00

  Did you say that? Is that you?

• 18:12Speaker 01

  No, it wasn't me. Well. No, a double, double decker is orange and purp, orange and purple, right?

• 18:17Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 18:19Speaker 01

  Quite retro.

• 18:19Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 18:20Speaker 01

  My sort of, um.

• 18:21Speaker 00

  They still make them. I've not seen them for a while. They must do.

• 18:22Speaker 01

  I haven't seen them for a while. I haven't seen them for a while.

• 18:24Speaker 00

  I think you get them in your heroes, um, packs for over Christmas.

• 18:28Speaker 01

  They had a sort of Rice Krispies in them or something, is that right?

• 18:30Speaker 00

  I think they've got a bit of everything going on in there.

• 18:32Speaker 01

  Bit of everything, yeah.

• 18:33Speaker 00

  Right. I've been asking you lot to send in your name first game ideas in a feature that we call James Games. Um, last time we heard some games of frowns suggestions and everyone tried one out. It worked pretty well, I think, Joe.

• 18:48Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 18:48Speaker 00

  Uh, we've got a, a message here from Martin via the Fact Up WhatsApp, who says, hello, Joe, James and crew. I've got an idea for James Games or Games of James, whatever you call it. I do like Games of James.

• 19:00Speaker 01

  Games of James, yeah.

• 19:00Speaker 00

  It's a similar concept to James. It's similar to a concept James mentioned previously, but better.

• 19:10Speaker 01

  Quite, um, combative.

• 19:13Speaker 00

  It says here, disclaimer, I have put far too much thought into this, mostly to avoid studying for my auto, automation engineering assessments.

• 19:21Speaker 01

  I can't believe we've got somebody who's studying automation engineering, listening to this.

• 19:27Speaker 00

  Yeah. Well, you know what it was like. You've studied for stuff, you know.

• 19:30Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 19:30Speaker 00

  You know, you get to a point where you'd rather, you just would rather do anything else.

• 19:35Speaker 01

  Do anything else. It's almost like you say, I'm so bored of, you know, when people say like, I'd rather watch paint dry.

• 19:40Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 19:41Speaker 01

  It's like, I genuinely, I'm not even lying, I'd rather listen to Joe and James Fact Up than do this.

• 19:45Speaker 00

  You go, I'd rather watch paint dry.

• 19:47Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 19:48Speaker 00

  And then, and then if that's boring.

• 19:51Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 19:52Speaker 00

  I'll maybe give Joe and James a try. Um, but listen to this, Joe. The game is called, this is Martin's idea. The game is called You Can't Judge a Cook By Its Mother.

• 20:02Speaker 01

  Very nice. And he's put, yes, Joe, that's a palm believing.

• 20:05Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 20:06Speaker 01

  Of course it is.

• 20:06Speaker 00

  We've got the concept here as well. Um, you get shown a photo of a celebrity chef's mother. And you have to guess who her famous child is. The franchise, franchise potential. When this takes off and we're making a fortune, 50, 25, 25 split, obviously.

• 20:24Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 20:24Speaker 00

  We release the sequel, You Can't Judge A Cook By Its Brother.

• 20:28Speaker 01

  Okay, yeah, yeah.

• 20:30Speaker 00

  Then to really milk it, Fast and Furious levels of milkage, we hit them with the ultimate spinoff. You can't judge a cook by its stepmother's stepbrother.

• 20:39Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 20:41Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 20:41Speaker 00

  Let me know when I need to pop down to London and we sign the contracts and draft it up. Cheers, Martin.

• 20:46Speaker 01

  Yeah, very, very nice. Yeah, it's um.

• 20:49Speaker 00

  You can't judge, judge a cook by its mother. It's great.

• 20:52Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 20:52Speaker 00

  It's really good.

• 20:53Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 20:54Speaker 00

  And you have to guess the famous celebrity chef's.

• 20:57Speaker 01

  Do you um, do you get to, to talk to the mother a bit and say, like, cause.

• 21:01Speaker 00

  Yeah, there's an opportunity there to get some cheeky stories.

• 21:04Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah. What was he like? Oh, he was, he was naughty, actually.

• 21:07Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah.

• 21:07Speaker 01

  Yeah. Um, and then, uh, yeah, the, the kid could be there being like, oh, mom, stitching me up.

• 21:17Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 21:17Speaker 01

  Um.

• 21:18Speaker 00

  Well, he's not a kid, is it?

• 21:20Speaker 01

  So they, so the, yeah, the, um, well, yeah, it's still the, the, the, the now adult chef, but you know, is uh, is there, and like, yeah, and because quite a lot of them, quite a lot of chefs also do kind of hark back to their, to their mom or their.

• 21:40Speaker 00

  Yeah, they've always got a story about where they grew up and.

• 21:42Speaker 01

  I think it's quite a lot of, it's quite, it's often the.

• 21:45Speaker 00

  I assume because if you want to be a chef, then you, you're gonna want, you, you've must have already had some sort of relationship with food.

• 21:51Speaker 01

  Well, I've heard two versions of it. One version of it seems to be, uh, my, you know, my mum was a brilliant cook and she taught me everything I know. Or the other one is my mum was completely useless. So obviously I had to do all the cooking, you know, from the age of eight. Also, that's a bit rude. Um. There's no need to, to do that. That'd be the challenging one when it's like the mum's uh, yeah, that'd be the first question. Are you one of the shit ones? First question, were you actually a good mother?

• 22:14Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 22:15Speaker 01

  It's the first, and it's pretty tough on them as well.

• 22:17Speaker 00

  This next uh.

• 22:18Speaker 01

  Yeah, you're good. Right. Okay. Anyway, thanks, thanks, Martin.

• 22:21Speaker 00

  Thanks, Martin. We've got another one here and this has slipped through the net of our.

• 22:25Speaker 01

  I mean, this is just from the fucking, yeah.

• 22:26Speaker 00

  This has slipped through the net of our producers.

• 22:28Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 22:28Speaker 00

  This is a wind up.

• 22:31Speaker 00

  Yeah. Alistair's idea is the rice is right.

• 22:34Speaker 01

  I mean.

• 22:34Speaker 00

  James reads a dish from the takeaway menu and tries to guess, um, whether it, which.

• 22:39Speaker 01

  That is from the Ricky Gervais show, uh, about 25 years ago. So.

• 22:44Speaker 00

  So it's egg fried or pilau.

• 22:46Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah. So that's, um.

• 22:48Speaker 00

  So well done, Alistair.

• 22:50Speaker 01

  Well done.

• 22:51Speaker 00

  Good for you.

• 22:51Speaker 01

  I mean, I don't even, I don't even mind it. I mean, it's fine. I mean, we put, we put stuff in that show in here as well.

• 22:57Speaker 00

  We know that that idea doesn't work already.

• 22:59Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 22:59Speaker 00

  Because they tried it out.

• 23:01Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 23:01Speaker 00

  And they were like, oh, um, lamb boana. And you have to say, you have to see egg fried, egg fried pilau. And it's like, well, pilau, obviously, the one from the Indian is the pilau.

• 23:11Speaker 01

  And so they're like, why don't you just call it like Indian food or Chinese food? He's like, because it's called the rice is right. Oh yeah, of course. Yeah. Um, but, um, you know what, Alistair, it's filled a bit of time and.

• 23:20Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 23:21Speaker 01

  That's fine. Because otherwise, we're just back to me talking about my old spices.

• 23:25Speaker 00

  Thank you. Um, is it time for fact check? Really? Already? It is time for fact check. This is the part of the podcast where we read a fact or a question that you'd like us to get to the bottom of. Then we're gonna have a good think during the ad break and then we'll let you know how true it feels to us to decide whether it passes our fact check.

• 23:43Speaker 01

  Okay, so this week's fact check comes from Harriet, who sent us a WhatsApp. Hi guys, long time listener here and I need to know what you think of my boyfriend's fact that he keeps repeating every single day, apparently. His name is Joe, by the way, so this should a hundred percent make it onto the pod.

• 23:57Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 23:57Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's true, because if you call Joe or James, you, um.

• 24:00Speaker 00

  Just automatically get on.

• 24:01Speaker 01

  Yeah. Uh, my boyfriend farts all the time and I'm,

• 24:07Speaker 01

  and I know every time he's about to do it and always say to him, don't you dare, especially if I'm eating or if we're in confined spaces like the car, because honestly, I've never spelt anything as bad as his arse in my life. They linger for hours. It's a really horrible experience. Anyway, a couple of months ago, he randomly said, look, if I don't fart, it will definitely come out of my mouth. And now he has an excuse to fart every single time. I would just really like you to fact check this so he never has an excuse to fart again. Sorry for the long message, but feel like you needed the story to prove how desperate I am to prove him wrong. Thanks, guys. Love the podcast. Harriet. Okay. Well, I do have some thoughts on that, so let's.

• 24:46Speaker 00

  Let's have a quick break and, uh, and we'll be back with our thoughts on farting out your mouth.

• 24:52Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 24:57Speaker 00

  Welcome back to Joe and James Fact Up and we were just fact checking on the behalf of Harriet, who wanted to know, if you don't fart, the smell will come out of your mouth.

• 25:06Speaker 01

  Right.

• 25:07Speaker 00

  I've heard a similar thing.

• 25:08Speaker 01

  Have you?

• 25:09Speaker 00

  Yeah. It's got to come out one way.

• 25:12Speaker 00

  It's got to be bad for you. Uh, honestly, this Joe fella, Claire could have written this in.

• 25:19Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 25:20Speaker 00

  Um, because it sounds exactly like me and I am convinced, because she does, she, she gets so angry when I fart. And I'm a bit like, come on, it's a, it's, I'm a living creature.

• 25:31Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 25:32Speaker 00

  I excrete stuff, don't I?

• 25:35Speaker 01

  I'm not convinced. Have you ever?

• 25:37Speaker 00

  And I do, I'd, I'd, one, I think if you don't, if you hold your farts in too much, you, um, you can cause yourself some problems.

• 25:47Speaker 00

  It's trying to get out of your body. You should just let it get out. And two, I have heard that a fart can come back up into a burp.

• 25:56Speaker 00

  I have heard that.

• 25:57Speaker 01

  Okay, no, no, but that's not what he said. He said the smell, as in, let's be clear, the smell of shit.

• 26:03Speaker 00

  Right.

• 26:04Speaker 01

  Will come out of my mouth.

• 26:06Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 26:07Speaker 01

  I, I just don't think that's ever happened.

• 26:09Speaker 00

  Mine are quite powerful, aren't they?

• 26:10Speaker 01

  Yours are like incredible. I mean, there were times where like, I feel like people would, I honestly feel like they'd pause like costume checks because the whole area around the cast was like, don't go in there for a bit. Just don't.

• 26:22Speaker 00

  Do you remember we'd be filming in the common room and the, and that room was massive?

• 26:26Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 26:26Speaker 00

  And there'd be people, like honestly, at the other end of the room.

• 26:29Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 26:30Speaker 00

  Like lighting guys and stuff like that, just sort of.

• 26:32Speaker 01

  You could see it, you could see it ripple along, like the new year sunrise. It was really, it was really something.

• 26:39Speaker 00

  Do you remember when, um, we were getting on that plane?

• 26:41Speaker 01

  Yeah, that was amazing. Yeah, queuing up for a plane.

• 26:44Speaker 00

  You know, the, um, what do they call it?

• 26:46Speaker 01

  I did, sure about confined space. You're not, you know, I hate flying. I hate it. I hate it. And the main thing I hate is the, turning your queue into a kind of permanent fixture. Like, here's a load of human beings. Let's just get them to line up there for 45 fucking minutes while nothing happens. And what, the only thing that makes that worse.

• 27:04Speaker 00

  It's called a sky bridge, is that right?

• 27:06Speaker 01

  A sky bridge, yeah. It's just like, we're going across a sky bridge. You're just in the, you're in that.

• 27:10Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 27:11Speaker 01

  And, um, James farted.

• 27:14Speaker 00

  I had to. I really had to.

• 27:15Speaker 01

  Well, well, that's the, we'll come back to that. And that, and we could hear a conversation in the queue.

• 27:21Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 27:21Speaker 01

  Um, uh, to the tune of,

• 27:25Speaker 01

  is that a fart? No, no fart smells that bad. It's the catalytic converter.

• 27:29Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 27:30Speaker 01

  From the airplane.

• 27:31Speaker 00

  I don't think planes have catalytic converters.

• 27:33Speaker 01

  I don't know what a catalytic converter is, but what they were saying is that sounds like, um, an industrial process.

• 27:40Speaker 00

  They can make an eggy smell, I think, although I'm not a hundred percent sure of this.

• 27:44Speaker 01

  It's sulfur dioxide.

• 27:46Speaker 00

  When I used to, um, when I used to do, when I used to take driving lessons.

• 27:51Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 27:51Speaker 00

  The driving instructor is a little old lady and at least once a lesson, she would go, oh, you can smell the catalytic converter. And in hindsight now, I just think she was farting because she'd be, she'd been a, like, she's, her job is to.

• 28:06Speaker 01

  Oh, she was farting?

• 28:07Speaker 00

  Yeah, because she was just in a car all day long and she's gonna have to fart at some point. As I say, she's a living entity. She's a living creature.

• 28:16Speaker 01

  Yeah, I don't, um, I have to say, I've, I've heard this from other quarters as well. I don't quite buy this. If you don't like the smell of farts, you're sort of.

• 28:24Speaker 00

  Oh, who likes the smell of farts? No one likes the smell of farts. I'm just saying, I'm just saying they're necessary and sometimes you can't help it.

• 28:32Speaker 01

  I think that maybe if you hold a fart in, it will come out as a different type of fart later. Like, I don't think you have to do the huge, like, like, I fart.

• 28:45Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 28:45Speaker 01

  Sometimes I will be like, because I'm alone, I'll be like, I'll do, I'll just do the loud, I'll do the loud farts.

• 28:51Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 28:52Speaker 01

  You know, when you're, you're like, you can just do like, and it can last for like 12 seconds. You're like, actually, that was pretty good.

• 28:57Speaker 00

  When you do one in a car park.

• 28:59Speaker 01

  Yeah. When you know that you're free to do it.

• 29:01Speaker 00

  In a multi-story car park and it echoes around. It makes me feel like a, it makes me feel like a champ.

• 29:07Speaker 01

  But what I mean is I know that I've also avoided doing farts of that volume if I haven't really had to. I feel like you can control volume if not, whether it comes out, you know, at all. I, I just, I think, maybe burps, maybe farts turn into burps, but I, the idea that, I, it doesn't come, Joe is sort of implying that.

• 29:30Speaker 00

  Joe's just doing what everyone does.

• 29:32Speaker 01

  But he's also, he's sort of in, he's sort of saying that like, he'll have to go through a horrible experience if he's not allowed to fart because he will feel a fart. He didn't say a burp. He says, he's very much saying a fart. He'll have to go through the experience of that coming up through his trachea or esophagus, probably esophagus actually, and coming out of his mouth.

• 29:54Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 29:55Speaker 01

  And he's sort of saying, look, look, do you really want me to go through that? You know, and, you know, do you love me and do you love life?

• 30:03Speaker 00

  Yeah, I've, I get where he's coming from. I've had Claire, Claire's, I've never once had a guy at Claire farting.

• 30:09Speaker 01

  No, I, no.

• 30:09Speaker 00

  I've never once, I've never once said.

• 30:12Speaker 01

  No, I don't have a, I haven't farting. We've had a, she rarely farts and if she does, I'm almost like, please, please do it, do it, like, don't.

• 30:19Speaker 00

  I don't have a problem with it.

• 30:20Speaker 01

  Honestly, do, do it more.

• 30:21Speaker 00

  Claire's shouted at me from downstairs.

• 30:25Speaker 01

  For farting?

• 30:25Speaker 00

  Yeah, I've been upstairs and I've really let one rip.

• 30:27Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 30:28Speaker 00

  She's like, I fucking heard that.

• 30:32Speaker 01

  Um, yeah, I mean, I, I, look, I, I, I just think, I don't think it's, I think you can.

• 30:38Speaker 00

  Another thing that Claire always.

• 30:39Speaker 01

  You can affect, you can, you, honestly, if it was a really, really, really serious situation.

• 30:45Speaker 00

  Another thing, another thing that Claire always says to me as well is, why here? Why did you have to do it here? And I was like, because I'm here. I can't do the fart in a different place to where I am.

• 30:55Speaker 01

  That's true.

• 30:56Speaker 00

  Right.

• 30:57Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's like when like a pregnant lady goes on the red carpet and all the tabloids are like, oh, she's flaunting her bump. Yeah, I mean.

• 31:03Speaker 00

  One time she kicked me out of bed. I had to go and sleep in the guest room and I was, I was having problems.

• 31:08Speaker 01

  Okay, yeah, I mean that, yeah, being forced to leave the entire room, if she's thinking of the future as well.

• 31:13Speaker 00

  Also, like, they were just coming up out of the duvet into her face, basically. So I sort of get that, but what I didn't get was that I was getting kicked out. Cause as I was leaving the room, I was like, well, I'm going into a nice, clear, smelly room now. So joke's on you. I've stunk this one out.

• 31:30Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's, that's like when the naughty kid gets kicked out of class and it's like, well, so he doesn't have to do the quadratic equation.

• 31:37Speaker 00

  We're gonna suspend you. What does that mean? Well, it means you don't get to come to school for the next three days. You go.

• 31:42Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 31:43Speaker 00

  That's my punishment, is it?

• 31:44Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 31:45Speaker 00

  Get to watch fucking Jeremy Kyle. Great.

• 31:47Speaker 01

  Yeah. He tells you off though, doesn't he?

• 31:49Speaker 00

  He does, yeah.

• 31:50Speaker 01

  Cut off by him instead.

• 31:51Speaker 00

  He does like, he does like telling people off. Um.

• 31:54Speaker 01

  Right, well, so you're, you're.

• 31:55Speaker 00

  We're split, aren't we?

• 31:56Speaker 01

  I think we are split. I don't, I, I feel that, um, I feel this Joe, he's a bit of a sort of rhetorician.

• 32:05Speaker 00

  I feel sorry for Joe. Joe's just doing something that's completely normal to every single person and, um. And obviously, if you're in a relationship with someone, nine times out of 10, you're gonna be with that person. So the one person that I probably spend most of my time with is Claire.

• 32:21Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 32:21Speaker 00

  And if you're around me long enough, I'm gonna have to fart.

• 32:25Speaker 01

  Hmm, hmm.

• 32:28Speaker 00

  And I do, I say to her, I don't have a go at you when you fart. She goes, yeah, but mine don't fucking stink out of room or whatever. And I go, yeah, but I don't, I don't choose the fart, I don't choose my farts. I can't help farting. And Joe's the same, this poor guy Joe. And he is, he's worried, but he can come up as a burp. Your fart can come up as a burp.

• 32:47Speaker 01

  But as I say, that's not quite what he's saying. He's saying, let's just get it up. If I don't fart, it will definitely come out of my mouth.

• 32:58Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 32:59Speaker 01

  That is implying that the fart is coming out of his mouth.

• 33:04Speaker 00

  Yeah, it does. What do you think it is?

• 33:07Speaker 01

  But not the fart. A burp might come out.

• 33:10Speaker 00

  Listen, um.

• 33:11Speaker 01

  Does it, so?

• 33:12Speaker 00

  Before.

• 33:12Speaker 01

  Stuff doesn't go back up the.

• 33:14Speaker 00

  It, it does.

• 33:15Speaker 01

  What, and where does all the particles of fart is air with?

• 33:19Speaker 00

  Turtles can breathe out their arse.

• 33:21Speaker 01

  Oh, but is that relevant?

• 33:23Speaker 00

  Some turtles can breathe out their arse.

• 33:27Speaker 00

  My son, my youngest son.

• 33:29Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 33:30Speaker 00

  He can, um, he can lie on his back and put his head, put, put his legs up over by his head. Like, so he's holding the back of his knees and he can sort of like breathe, breathe in a little bit from his arse and then fart.

• 33:45Speaker 01

  Oh my god.

• 33:47Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 33:48Speaker 00

  Did you never do that when you was a kid? Like when you got out of the bath or something?

• 33:52Speaker 01

  I'm just trying to imagine what that'd be like. I don't think, I don't think so.

• 33:55Speaker 00

  I can't do it anymore, or at least I don't think so. I think, I think that's a thing you can only do as a child for some reason. But I do remember doing it and it's, it feels cold on your anus.

• 34:08Speaker 00

  You can feel like a bit of air.

• 34:10Speaker 01

  I've done some weird stuff, but I've, I've never done that.

• 34:14Speaker 00

  Never done that?

• 34:15Speaker 01

  No.

• 34:16Speaker 00

  Is it just me? Just me and my son?

• 34:20Speaker 01

  It feels cold.

• 34:21Speaker 00

  I don't think you can do it as an a, as an adult, as an anus, I was about to say. I don't, you can do it as an adult. I think once you go through puberty, you lose the power to be able to do that.

• 34:30Speaker 01

  Do you?

• 34:30Speaker 00

  I think so. I'm throwing out all kinds of theories here. Should we throw?

• 34:35Speaker 01

  I don't remember that in sort of sex education. Your body's gonna be going through some changes.

• 34:39Speaker 00

  I don't remember that.

• 34:40Speaker 01

  Probably gonna notice hair where it wasn't there before. And also, don't panic if you lose the ability to do the fart.

• 34:48Speaker 00

  I learnt nothing in sex education.

• 34:50Speaker 01

  Yeah, it was, yeah.

• 34:51Speaker 00

  They gave, they gave us condoms and we just blew them up. And they went whizzing around the room and stuff and the teacher's going, I'm trying to have a serious conversation.

• 35:02Speaker 01

  The idea that you're trying to.

• 35:03Speaker 00

  You're just mucking, mucking about.

• 35:05Speaker 01

  I just, I can't, I, I, I cannot think of any speech whatsoever that is serious enough to withstand people having to like put a condom on a banana while it's happening.

• 35:17Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 35:18Speaker 01

  I just think you could be doing a fucking eulogy and hand out some bananas and condoms and people would be laughing.

• 35:23Speaker 00

  There was lots of stuff at school that I sort of think, oh, if I was a bit more mature, I would have, um, actually taken something from that. If you'd have had that conversation with me now.

• 35:33Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 35:34Speaker 00

  And if you gave me a Johnny, I'm saying, what, what would you want from me?

• 35:37Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah.

• 35:39Speaker 00

  I would have still blown it up.

• 35:42Speaker 01

  Well, they also like, yeah, no, I, I mean, no, I, I, it's.

• 35:46Speaker 00

  Here's an example of what, how I did not learn anything about, um, sort of anything from that sex education class and you know, about like blokes and.

• 35:56Speaker 01

  Hmm.

• 35:57Speaker 00

  I still didn't really not learn how to put a condom on properly. It was well into my adult life that I realised that you'd need to pay attention a little bit.

• 36:05Speaker 01

  You just have to.

• 36:08Speaker 00

  I would like them to, I would like, here's what I would have liked in sex education class.

• 36:12Speaker 01

  And not knowing what you're doing and.

• 36:13Speaker 00

  Sex education class, I would have liked to have them to have gone, here's the quickest way to find out what way the condom is that you put it on.

• 36:22Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, which way it's facing.

• 36:23Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 36:24Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's true.

• 36:25Speaker 00

  That would have been genuinely.

• 36:27Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 36:27Speaker 00

  The amount of times that the moment's gone because I've been fiddling about.

• 36:31Speaker 01

  Sure. Yeah, yeah.

• 36:34Speaker 00

  Fucking, and I'm like, I think I've put it on inside out or something.

• 36:37Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 36:38Speaker 00

  Can you put it on inside out? Surely not. Surely it's just the same thing.

• 36:43Speaker 01

  I think they're covered in, um.

• 36:46Speaker 00

  There's some sort of gunk on them, isn't there?

• 36:48Speaker 01

  There's some kind of gunk on the outside of them, right? That, that, I feel like it's like.

• 36:53Speaker 00

  But I didn't learn anything. I didn't learn anything in sex education. I didn't. And like, even as an adult, living with my wife, living with a girl.

• 37:01Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 37:02Speaker 00

  Being a woman is so complicated.

• 37:04Speaker 01

  It's complicated, yeah. It is complicated.

• 37:06Speaker 00

  Even just like, if I wanted to, not that I would, if I left the pub and I was pissed.

• 37:14Speaker 01

  Hmm.

• 37:15Speaker 00

  And I just needed to go quickly.

• 37:16Speaker 01

  Hmm.

• 37:18Speaker 00

  And there's a bush there or something.

• 37:20Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 37:21Speaker 00

  I can just, it's just, you know, do you know what I mean?

• 37:23Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah.

• 37:25Speaker 00

  Claire's had to like squat on the side of the road on the motorway a couple of times.

• 37:29Speaker 01

  Yeah. Although I think.

• 37:31Speaker 00

  And they can't hold it in either.

• 37:34Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 37:36Speaker 01

  Although I did hear that, like, in some ways it's, did I hear this or just? In some ways it makes the male genitals a bit more sort of fun, maybe it was more, it feels like they're a bit safer, sort of tucked away.

• 37:50Speaker 00

  I'd rather get kicked in the vagina.

• 37:54Speaker 01

  Hmm.

• 37:54Speaker 00

  Than kicked in the bollocks, that's for sure. But the trade off there is just simple things like I know which way it's pointing when I, when it, when I'm, hmm. Like, I don't know how women go. Does it just come out? I don't know. Yeah, I'm getting the nod, yeah.

• 38:11Speaker 01

  I, I mean, I.

• 38:12Speaker 00

  So complicated.

• 38:14Speaker 01

  Oh, how are we doing it?

• 38:15Speaker 00

  Are we getting told off? Are we getting told to move on?

• 38:17Speaker 01

  No, I, I am.

• 38:19Speaker 00

  It's really.

• 38:19Speaker 01

  Look, I live, I give my daughter a bush wee, right?

• 38:22Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 38:22Speaker 01

  And so I lift her, I, I honestly, I honestly, do you wanna know how, do you wanna know where I got the technique from? Literally Bluey, a cartoon.

• 38:29Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 38:30Speaker 01

  I was like the mum dog, hold up the little dog. Um, and she's, um, it's just like, get everything right out of the way, point the bum that way. And even then, it just goes fucking, like, it's just.

• 38:44Speaker 00

  Seems mental to me, cause also I've got boys as well.

• 38:47Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah.

• 38:48Speaker 00

  Like I don't.

• 38:49Speaker 01

  Yeah. Um.

• 38:51Speaker 00

  It's you just point it the way you want it to go and it goes there.

• 38:55Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 38:56Speaker 00

  You can write your name and stuff, like if there's snow and things like that.

• 39:00Speaker 01

  Yeah, you can. It's like a sparkler, like that. Piss in the snow and a sparkler is actually the same sort of situation. It's always bonfire night.

• 39:09Speaker 00

  They are a mystery. They are a mystery.

• 39:14Speaker 00

  What were we talking about?

• 39:15Speaker 01

  Anyway, we're doing this fart thing. Like, so look, basically, I, maybe it comes out as a burp. It certainly doesn't come out as a fart. And also, maybe, okay, look, I honestly think if on one occasion Joe was not allowed to fart and the fart, the fart, not something else, literally the fart.

• 39:37Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 39:38Speaker 01

  So Harriet says to Joe, you're not allowed to fart. And the fart goes back up through his system and comes out of his mouth as a fart. I would say that would only have to happen once and Harriet would say, I am so fucking sorry. I you, you, I will never say that nonsense again. You fart as much as you want. I'm just saying, I don't think it'd happen.

• 40:01Speaker 00

  If, if, right, I don't think it would come out as a fart, but it definitely will come out as a burp.

• 40:06Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 40:08Speaker 01

  Okay, thank, good. It's like a sort of an audiobook.

• 40:11Speaker 00

  Let's get.

• 40:14Speaker 00

  Belched James.

• 40:17Speaker 01

  I just, this, this episode feels like low in every sense.

• 40:22Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 40:23Speaker 01

  It feels like we're both quite tired.

• 40:24Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 40:25Speaker 01

  We haven't really got anything. And then when we have got stuff.

• 40:27Speaker 00

  It's just talking about women pissing.

• 40:29Speaker 01

  Yeah, yes.

• 40:30Speaker 00

  Trying to work out how women piss.

• 40:32Speaker 01

  Yeah, trying to work it out, exactly.

• 40:33Speaker 00

  How do you do it, girls?

• 40:34Speaker 01

  How can we not, how can we not know? How can we not know? Half, more than half of my life is probably over.

• 40:41Speaker 00

  Let's get to the bottom.

• 40:45Speaker 00

  Let's get to the bottom of this. If you don't fart, will it come out your mouth? Is there any science? And I'm saying, I'm saying that there is, we're going head to head on this one.

• 40:55Speaker 01

  I think we are, actually.

• 40:56Speaker 00

  I'm saying there is. Joe's saying there isn't. So one of us is gonna win.

• 41:00Speaker 01

  Who's won?

• 41:01Speaker 02

  I want to point out that Harriet's boyfriend said it will definitely come out as a burp. Or come out of his mouth.

• 41:06Speaker 01

  Come out of his mouth, yeah.

• 41:07Speaker 02

  Definitely.

• 41:08Speaker 01

  Definitely, yeah.

• 41:09Speaker 02

  So apparently if you don't fart, there's three different things that could happen. If you hold it in.

• 41:14Speaker 00

  Right.

• 41:14Speaker 02

  You could absorb it into your intestines.

• 41:16Speaker 00

  Right.

• 41:17Speaker 02

  And then it can eventually be carried to your lungs and you will breathe it out.

• 41:21Speaker 01

  Ah, okay.

• 41:22Speaker 02

  It can move further into your digestive system and then come as a fart later.

• 41:27Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 41:28Speaker 02

  Or it can be burped back up. Depending on where the gas is going in your digestive system.

• 41:35Speaker 01

  Okay. Okay, well, I don't, I'm not sure. You're, you're claiming victory.

• 41:39Speaker 00

  I, I absolutely am.

• 41:41Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 41:41Speaker 00

  It, the words, it can be burped back up.

• 41:44Speaker 01

  Hmm, well, I mean, as Joe's words, it will definitely come out of my mouth. It, what's it? The fart.

• 41:54Speaker 01

  I mean, I, I.

• 41:58Speaker 00

  Can you, can, can you, uh, is there any serious harm you can do to yourself if you don't fart?

• 42:05Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 42:06Speaker 00

  That's what I want to know. Because, because even that will help my pal Joe out. I know Harriet's asked for our support, but I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm team Joe.

• 42:17Speaker 01

  You've gone native, haven't you? You've, you were, you were sent in to get in, get information of these people.

• 42:22Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 42:23Speaker 01

  Yeah. Now you're on their side.

• 42:25Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 42:26Speaker 01

  We're gonna find you in a Vietnamese, uh, you know, upriver.

• 42:31Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 42:31Speaker 01

  You're part of them now.

• 42:32Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 42:33Speaker 02

  I'm sorry, I'm not gonna be helpful here. It says it can cause temporary discomfort, but there's no, no serious damage can come from holding in a fart.

• 42:40Speaker 00

  Right.

• 42:41Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 42:41Speaker 00

  Interesting.

• 42:43Speaker 01

  Um, it is interesting. Um, well, look, I, I, I think that, um.

• 42:48Speaker 00

  Cause I've been saying to Claire for years, I'll, you know, I'll cause myself damage if I don't fart.

• 42:52Speaker 01

  I think that there's more of a, uh.

• 42:54Speaker 00

  I'm still gonna keep saying that to her.

• 42:56Speaker 01

  I'm in favor of farting, but just not because I think it will damage you. I'm in favor of farting because I think.

• 43:01Speaker 00

  You're.

• 43:01Speaker 01

  I'm with you on them. All the moral stuff is part of life.

• 43:04Speaker 00

  You don't care if people fart.

• 43:05Speaker 01

  I don't care if you fart.

• 43:06Speaker 00

  Just do it, do it on your own, do it behind closed doors.

• 43:08Speaker 01

  Or do it, you know, judge, read the room. Read the room.

• 43:12Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 43:12Speaker 01

  Is this a room where you think a fart will go down well?

• 43:14Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 43:14Speaker 01

  And it might be.

• 43:16Speaker 00

  Or a skybridge, or whatever.

• 43:17Speaker 01

  Or a skybridge, yeah, exactly. Read the funeral. Read the funeral. Is this a funeral that needs a fart? Or is this a funeral that doesn't need a fart? And honestly, if it was someone who likes a bit of a giggle, Robin Williams or something.

• 43:29Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 43:29Speaker 01

  I bet he'd bloody love it. He'd have loved it. It'd probably be in his last words.

• 43:34Speaker 00

  Have you seen that, um, have you seen that video of, uh, it's Tom Cruise and Dustin Hoffman? I think it's when they're promoting Rain Man. So this is years, this is about thirty five years ago or whatever.

• 43:46Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 43:46Speaker 00

  And, um, and Dustin Hoffman just goes, just rips and he's like, I'm really sorry, like, we've, we've been here for ages. And Tom Cruise cannot stop laughing. He's laughing his head off. He's like, and they're like, right, carry on, carry on. But they're just, they're just done.

• 44:03Speaker 01

  They are funny. I think they're quite, they're quite a good example of, um, you know, you know what? You know the category I put farts into?

• 44:09Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 44:09Speaker 01

  Swearing.

• 44:10Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 44:10Speaker 01

  I do not have a problem with swearing. I just don't, it really, honestly, what's the worst that's ever gonna happen?

• 44:15Speaker 00

  Well.

• 44:16Speaker 01

  Compared to violence, compared to.

• 44:17Speaker 00

  I can understand why more people would have.

• 44:19Speaker 01

  Extreme pornographic content.

• 44:21Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 44:21Speaker 01

  Swearing? Swearing?

• 44:24Speaker 00

  I can imagine that people would have more of a problem with farting than swearing. Because the fart does inflict some discomfort onto the person that, um, I've farted sometimes and even I've been like, fucking hell, to myself.

• 44:43Speaker 01

  Did I tell you that, um, my daughter did a fart that was so smelly it woke me up?

• 44:46Speaker 00

  Right.

• 44:47Speaker 01

  Jen, you know, I woke up, I was like, why am I awake? Oh, that's why. I was honestly like, it felt like the fart was older than her. She's only four. I was like, that fart's twenty years old.

• 44:56Speaker 00

  Was it her first fart?

• 44:58Speaker 01

  No, no, this was like, but you know when it's like, they smell that they've been in a crypt or something?

• 45:01Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 45:02Speaker 01

  It's like, um, oh my god.

• 45:05Speaker 00

  That's what mine are like. Mine are really heavy.

• 45:09Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 45:09Speaker 00

  And they don't, they do, they do, I can tell, I, I've got a theory as well that, you know, when they come out and they're a bit hot and you're like, oh, that one is gonna smell when that registers.

• 45:19Speaker 01

  Hmm.

• 45:19Speaker 00

  I feel like it's heavier than air. So it will just hang about. It won't float up into the sky.

• 45:27Speaker 01

  Yeah, no, they, they, they, they do sometimes. The, these ones that she was doing that night, like, that woke me up, they, they, I was like, they're still here.

• 45:36Speaker 00

  I've done some, sometimes like walking in the street with my, with my kids and they're like, oh, dad.

• 45:41Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 45:43Speaker 00

  And, and, and I am like, yeah, if you can smell it when you're outside, you know you're.

• 45:46Speaker 01

  Yeah. Yeah. Completely.

• 45:49Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 45:50Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 45:50Speaker 00

  I'm proud of them.

• 45:51Speaker 01

  Yeah. Well, look, I mean, I hope we've, um, we, I think we've, we've done quite, done quite well there. So like, you know, right for the wrong reasons, wrong for the right reasons.

• 45:59Speaker 00

  That's clear as mud.

• 46:00Speaker 01

  One of those, yeah.

• 46:07Speaker 00

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• 46:42Speaker 00

  Joe, is it time for your fact?

• 46:43Speaker 01

  Yeah, it is. So, um, and it's funny, it almost lines up a bit here because, um, we, um, uh, I've been sort of thinking about your heavy farts.

• 46:53Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 46:54Speaker 01

  And I was thinking about clouds, I could think about the weather, because I just want it to rain.

• 46:57Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 46:58Speaker 01

  Uh, do you know that a cloud, the average cumulus cloud? How much do you think that weighs?

• 47:04Speaker 00

  Ah, do you know what?

• 47:06Speaker 01

  Go on.

• 47:08Speaker 00

  It's not really knowledge because I've not retained it, but I have been told this sort of thing.

• 47:13Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 47:13Speaker 00

  Um, I always struggled with the different types of cloud.

• 47:18Speaker 01

  The cumulus, I think, is the one that, um.

• 47:20Speaker 00

  Scateterius or whatever it's called or.

• 47:22Speaker 01

  Yeah, the cumulus is like the one that you draw if you draw a cloud.

• 47:25Speaker 00

  Lovely fluffy cloud.

• 47:26Speaker 01

  Lovely fluffy cloud.

• 47:27Speaker 00

  I'm gonna go.

• 47:28Speaker 01

  Flat bottom though, don't remember, don't forget. Always a flat bottom.

• 47:32Speaker 00

  Yeah, well, you should get down to the gym.

• 47:34Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 47:34Speaker 00

  Um, I'll get a BBL. What, um, hit me with it, Joe. Cause I can't remember what it is and I know it's gonna blow my mind.

• 47:43Speaker 01

  The average weight of a cumulus cloud is five hundred tonnes.

• 47:49Speaker 00

  Wow.

• 47:50Speaker 01

  Clouds are heavy.

• 47:51Speaker 00

  I was gonna say a couple of tonnes.

• 47:53Speaker 01

  That's, it's the same as a jumbo jet. So when you look at clouds, same as a jumbo jet, five hundred tonnes, yeah.

• 47:59Speaker 00

  What's all this heavy shit doing in the sky?

• 48:01Speaker 01

  It's funny, isn't it? Yeah, get it on the ground.

• 48:03Speaker 00

  Why aren't my farts going up there?

• 48:05Speaker 01

  It is, it, well, exactly, yeah. That's their natural home.

• 48:09Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 48:10Speaker 01

  Um, but, yeah.

• 48:15Speaker 01

  What do you think about that? I think it's, um, well, maybe you're usually more, you're more impressed by the fact that a jumbo jet weighs five hundred tonnes.

• 48:21Speaker 00

  No, all of it, all of it's great.

• 48:23Speaker 01

  Just any, anything that weighs five hundred tonnes.

• 48:25Speaker 00

  That, that's in the sky.

• 48:27Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 48:28Speaker 00

  Is nuts. That's brilliant, though.

• 48:30Speaker 01

  They're heavy, so don't be thinking, oh, look at those.

• 48:33Speaker 00

  Well, I always had that problem with, um, water. I never understood.

• 48:38Speaker 01

  Water's fucking heavy.

• 48:39Speaker 00

  Yeah, water's really heavy. And also, you know, that whole thing, like, I was very late in life when I realised that if you hit water fast enough, it becomes like concrete, the impact, like, because I always used to think, oh, if a plane's going down, I'll just jump out.

• 48:56Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 48:56Speaker 00

  If it's going over the ocean.

• 48:57Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 48:58Speaker 00

  I'll just jump out. I'll just land in the ocean.

• 49:00Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 49:01Speaker 00

  A cubic metre of water is a ton.

• 49:04Speaker 01

  Yes, yeah. Yes.

• 49:06Speaker 00

  So fucking water's mental.

• 49:09Speaker 01

  Cause a ton is a thousand kilograms. Oh, wait a minute. A litre, oh, I don't know, liters and meters.

• 49:15Speaker 00

  But.

• 49:15Speaker 01

  That just rhymes as well.

• 49:16Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 49:18Speaker 01

  It's got anything.

• 49:18Speaker 00

  But, um, thanks for that fact. That's a good fact.

• 49:21Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 49:21Speaker 00

  Good fact, Joe.

• 49:22Speaker 01

  So they're not pillory, they're not, they're big.

• 49:26Speaker 00

  They weigh a ton.

• 49:27Speaker 01

  Fucks.

• 49:28Speaker 00

  Big fat fucks in the sky.

• 49:29Speaker 01

  Big fat fucks, the big fat fucks of the sky.

• 49:31Speaker 00

  Um, before we go, Joe, we do have a message from Teagan. Um, and Teagan says, hello, Joe and James. Very important question for you. After you die, would you rather become taxidermy or a wet specimen?

• 49:45Speaker 01

  Right.

• 49:46Speaker 00

  Thanks, a fan, Teagan.

• 49:47Speaker 01

  Right. I've got a question for you, Teagan. Yes. What's a wet specimen?

• 49:50Speaker 02

  I'm guessing like in a jar.

• 49:52Speaker 01

  Oh, a wet specimen. Oh, like, like if you go to one of those Victorian museums and like.

• 49:56Speaker 00

  Or that gazer that cut up the bodies and stuff. He, what was it? It was on at the O2 or something for years, for about a year or so.

• 50:03Speaker 01

  Yeah, uh, Body Works.

• 50:05Speaker 00

  Body Works, yeah.

• 50:08Speaker 01

  Um.

• 50:09Speaker 00

  Um, taxidermy would be funny.

• 50:14Speaker 00

  Taxidermy would be funny.

• 50:15Speaker 01

  It's a good question. So it's like if you go, is it like the Victoria Museum and it has like a sort of, I don't know, ferret or something in formaldehyde, it's like it's that.

• 50:24Speaker 00

  I mean, they've still got loads of that stuff in the Natural History Museum, haven't they? Whenever I watch a documentary and it's some expert from the Natural History Museum, they go, oh, we've got one of those sharks in a jar right here.

• 50:34Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 50:37Speaker 01

  I'll tell you what, it's, it's a

• 50:40Speaker 01

  they, that is, it's a good, they're, they're both, they're both quite freaky and fun, aren't they?

• 50:45Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 50:46Speaker 01

  Taxidermy, you'd probably.

• 50:50Speaker 01

  I think I've got more chance of getting taxidermy than being in Madame Tussauds. I think if I'm gonna, if there's gonna be a second me, probably.

• 50:58Speaker 00

  I'd either go taxidermy or head in the jar.

• 51:02Speaker 01

  Head in the jar, yeah.

• 51:03Speaker 00

  Cause that was, yeah, and I'd like put it in my will that my kids have to keep me on the mantelpiece or something, just so I'm looking at them and my eyes are open.

• 51:14Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 51:14Speaker 00

  Just to really ruin their day.

• 51:16Speaker 01

  The white specimen, I think, you, you, I think you lose a little bit of your vigour inside that liquid.

• 51:22Speaker 00

  You go a bit, you go a bit pale, don't you?

• 51:24Speaker 01

  Pale, yeah. Um, but I think it's, I, I'd do white specimen if I could be lit in a really kind of ghoulish way. Like I'd have lots of green and blue lights.

• 51:32Speaker 00

  What about a shrunken head?

• 51:35Speaker 01

  Oh, shrunken head, okay. Then Hannah could just have it round her neck.

• 51:38Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 51:40Speaker 01

  On a date, on her next, when she's out again, you know, she'd be out on the back of the market straight away.

• 51:45Speaker 00

  Told Claire, I've told Claire, my quote, my quote to Claire was, um, slag it about a bit.

• 51:50Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah.

• 51:51Speaker 00

  Go and have some fun.

• 51:52Speaker 01

  Yeah, absolutely.

• 51:54Speaker 00

  Go and enjoy yourself. There's nothing I can do about it now.

• 51:56Speaker 01

  Absolutely. But that'd be my condition. Do what you want, but throughout the sexual experience, my shrunken head on a cord.

• 52:05Speaker 00

  How did they do that? Um, is it boiling it or something? That would just make all the skin come off, wouldn't it? Drying it, they dry it out, salt it, must be salt.

• 52:17Speaker 01

  The, uh, the best answer I've got is that when I was at school, I was in Lord of the Flies and, uh, my drama teacher, who was quite full on, I'd say, literally bought a dead pig and an extra head. So we had two, we had, we had a dead pig and a, and a separate head. And him and a load of the sixth form boys stayed behind after school one day and they boiled up the head to make the prop for when the head had been on the pole for ages. Um, and it looked fucking crazy. And I would honestly say also, he, he kept the, um, the dead pig, the dead pig, it was a dead pig. He got it from an abattoir.

• 52:56Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 52:56Speaker 01

  And he also got a recording of the pig being killed, so we could use it in the play as the recording when the boys kill the pig.

• 53:03Speaker 00

  Right.

• 53:03Speaker 01

  Um, and he kept it in what he referred to as backstage, which I refer to as just the changing rooms for the gym.

• 53:09Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 53:10Speaker 01

  And every time you went to the gym, for the next several years, I was at that school, I was only year eight when we did the play.

• 53:15Speaker 00

  That was a big, that was a big, uh, memory for you, wasn't it?

• 53:19Speaker 01

  For me.

• 53:20Speaker 00

  You're always going on about when you did Lord of the Flies.

• 53:21Speaker 01

  Played? Simon, obviously, I always play Simon.

• 53:24Speaker 00

  Oh, right, yeah, of course. And you, and you said, kill the pig, spill his blood or something?

• 53:28Speaker 01

  Yeah, kill the, kill the pig, spill his blood, do him in. Um, and, um, honestly, I felt like that, that changing room smelt of dead pig for like the next several years. I felt like it just smelled of blood.

• 53:41Speaker 00

  Right.

• 53:41Speaker 01

  But I don't know, I mean, it was, it looked fucking cool, I will say that much. And they, they had the fresh head and they had one for when it, they'd been stuck on the pole for ages.

• 53:50Speaker 00

  Right.

• 53:51Speaker 01

  And, um, I suppose that's my best answer for how you do a shrunken head. Basically, get a load of sixth form boys and go, all right, lads, let's have a bit of a laugh.

• 53:58Speaker 00

  Put it in backstage.

• 53:59Speaker 01

  And, um, put it backstage. Um, I think they boiled it up in a big pan.

• 54:04Speaker 00

  Right.

• 54:04Speaker 01

  In his kitchen, they, they were putting in like salt and like they boiled it all down. Honestly, it just, it, it, it sounded like really quite fun, to be honest. It sounded like, um.

• 54:16Speaker 00

  All right, well.

• 54:18Speaker 01

  I mean.

• 54:19Speaker 00

  We'll leave it there, shall we?

• 54:20Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 54:21Speaker 00

  Um, I'm all fact out, Joe.

• 54:23Speaker 01

  Yeah, me too.

• 54:23Speaker 00

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  Now, what are we gonna do?

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