Pod Insights Hamish & Andy 341 - Pizza for the People: Jury Selection About this episode The date is locked in and the jury selected for the Pizza for the People showdown between full-blooded Italian Luca, and 1/8th Italian Hamish!
Andy has been surprised and delighted by something his plumber did in his kitchen, and Hamish probably won’t be trusted to book any holiday excursions for his family again anytime soon.
1. 100 pizza jury is selected
2. Power moves
3. Plumber’s plate stacking skills pleases Andy
4. Holiday cooking class fail
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0:23 Speaker 02 Ahoy to me Fieris. Hamish.
0:27 Speaker 03 We're mispronounced Wheels.
0:33 Speaker 03 Even if we are, we're scraping the barrel for these.
0:38 Speaker 02 No, not that. Ahoy to me Bactrianus.
0:41 Speaker 03 Ahoy.
0:42 Speaker 02 Jack.
0:42 Speaker 03 Fieris Batri- Batrianas?
0:44 Speaker 02 Back-trianus.
0:47 Speaker 03 No guesses.
0:48 Speaker 02 No guesses.
0:48 Speaker 03 Does sound like just a soccer team from another country, doesn't it?
0:52 Speaker 02 Yeah.
0:52 Speaker 03 Players you're not aware of.
0:53 Speaker 02 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
0:54 Speaker 03 Fieris, back to Bactrianus.
0:56 Speaker 02 And I'm Domidarius.
0:59 Speaker 03 Oh, again. Through to Domidarius.
1:02 Speaker 02 He's done it. Why has he paid so much? Dromidarius, it must be.
1:06 Speaker 03 My mistake, Dromidarius, first time commentating.
1:10 Speaker 02 Okay, how do I give a clue here? We're camels.
1:13 Speaker 03 Oh, yeah, we're camels. The Latin names for camels.
1:16 Speaker 02 How do you know? The Dromedary is a camel.
1:19 Speaker 03 There's not many other places that you see Dromedary.
1:21 Speaker 02 Well done, you two! That's what I was like, how do we give a clue here? And you go, we're camels.
1:26 Speaker 03 Why don't we just give the answers?
1:29 Speaker 03 Yeah, is it one hump, two hump?
1:31 Speaker 02 We are the three main types of living camel.
1:35 Speaker 03 Interesting.
1:36 Speaker 02 There's a few that have, uh, that have died.
1:38 Speaker 03 Didn't make it.
1:39 Speaker 02 The, uh, the Fieris, two humps, the Fieris, sorry, two humps. Only truly wild camel living today.
1:45 Speaker 03 Yep.
1:45 Speaker 02 So free.
1:46 Speaker 03 Only truly wild.
1:47 Speaker 02 Yeah.
1:47 Speaker 03 Some others say they're wild, but then you catch them at night sleeping in a motel.
1:55 Speaker 03 Backtree Arness, Jack, two humps as well. It's a two-humper.
1:59 Speaker 02 Nice.
2:00 Speaker 03 Domesticated. Cold deserts of Central Asia. And then the Drumaderis, Oderius, is the one hump most common. Makes up 90% of the world's camels. We have a heap of them here in Australia.
2:13 Speaker 02 I would say, though, I thought they were wild, the ones running through the outback.
2:17 Speaker 03 Yeah, I remember someone saying...
2:20 Speaker 02 I mean, that's a good question, but they're not na... Is there a difference between native and wild?
2:24 Speaker 03 No, I mean, yes, but you can be just wild and not native. But the, I think, wasn't there a million camels? Someone told us once. We're moving in caravan of courage. I remember we were driving across the street and they're like, hey, keep an eye out. There's an estimated million feral camels.
2:40 Speaker 02 I think we've got more camels in Australia than any other country in the world. Like, we've got the most camels.
2:44 Speaker 03 They boomed. They boomed. And it was that original, you know, there was like 12 that came out for Birkenwells or something.
2:51 Speaker 02 Yeah.
2:52 Speaker 03 Got away.
2:53 Speaker 02 Yeah, and then got their freak on.
2:54 Speaker 03 They horny. Maybe Birkenwells didn't let them have sex or something because once they got on their own, they made a million.
3:01 Speaker 02 They were wild camels. They were more than a two-humper.
3:04 Speaker 03 They were related to the horny goat.
3:08 Speaker 02 Ahoy also to Cody. He went to hamishannity.com and used the very, very easy to use system to upload what he's been up to.
3:16 Speaker 04 Howdy, guys. It's Cody from the US over in Southern California. Not sure if news of the soccer win has reached you yet, but the United States just beat Australia 2-0 in the World Cup.
3:27 Speaker 02 Spoiler.
3:28 Speaker 04 So I just wanted to check in and see if everyone's doing okay with that news. But there's something from your side of the world that just reached me, and I think it's important to make you aware of it, given Hamish's recent fart experience. There's a new Australian study where researchers had people track their farts in an app called Chart Your Fart, which feels like something Hamish would have invented if he had grant funding. They found Australians average about five farts a day, and most of that action happens between 6:00 and 10:00 PM. So Hamish waking up the whole house with one in the early morning is not normal. Scientifically, that's off schedule, and I think it's worth further investigation. Cheers, guys. Pass gas with gusto.
4:09 Speaker 03 I did.
4:10 Speaker 02 Yeah.
4:10 Speaker 03 Yeah, great. Love to see just how much of an outlier that fart was.
4:16 Speaker 05 Fluffs a day?
4:17 Speaker 02 Yeah.
4:18 Speaker 03 I mean, do you put your phone in your back pocket and just leave it running? Or do you have to log it manually?
4:25 Speaker 02 No, I think it's logging it manually.
4:27 Speaker 03 Yeah.
4:27 Speaker 02 Yeah.
4:27 Speaker 03 Cause if you.
4:28 Speaker 02 Like checking the Ray Gage back in nineteen eighties.
4:31 Speaker 03 If you were like, guys, don't laugh about this. This is a medical thing. It's science, but I'm, I'm got an app on my phone. I've got to let it run all week.
4:40 Speaker 02 Yep.
4:40 Speaker 03 Just measuring how many times I fart. Please don't run up to me and make fart noises. Like we are trying to do this. It's like, it would be a free for all.
4:46 Speaker 02 Yeah, no whoopee cushions.
4:47 Speaker 03 Yeah. Yeah, it would just be relentless. People just sneaking up to you with tubers and stuff. It would be, it'd be awesome.
4:54 Speaker 02 Hey, and the World Cup has been and gone, but there's another challenge that has really caught the country's attention. It's the pizza challenge.
5:03 Speaker 03 Yep.
5:04 Speaker 02 Laid down to you by Luca.
5:07 Speaker 03 Yeah.
5:07 Speaker 02 A fella who didn't know, but you've become acquainted with, who runs a pizza shop that is lauded. And for people who don't know this story, this is the background.
5:18 Speaker 06 Unexpectedly.
5:19 Speaker 02 This is happening.
5:20 Speaker 06 A one eighth Sicilian man is set a challenge.
5:24 Speaker 02 He goes, I challenge you to make a better pizza than me.
5:26 Speaker 06 By a man who could only be described as full blood Italiano.
5:32 Speaker 07 Hello everyone guys. Ciao, ciao guys.
5:35 Speaker 06 Three pizzas.
5:37 Speaker 03 I want to take on the best.
5:38 Speaker 06 Two men.
5:39 Speaker 07 It's gonna be very hard for you.
5:41 Speaker 06 One winner.
5:42 Speaker 07 Wow, I'm very risky for my brand.
5:44 Speaker 06 And one hundred delicious reasons to leave it all on the line.
5:48 Speaker 07 You need to do at least good as I do. If you are able to do that, you win one hundred pizzas.
5:54 Speaker 06 The one hundred pizza challenge.
5:56 Speaker 03 I can't wait to be spinning discs with you.
5:58 Speaker 06 Coming soon.
5:59 Speaker 07 Oh man, that's gonna be so **** funny. I love it. I love it.
6:06 Speaker 02 He joins us now. The hundred pizza challenge, pizza for the people. Luca, ahoy and ciao to you, my friend.
6:13 Speaker 07 Ahoy guys.
6:15 Speaker 02 We're great. Now Luca, I need to apologize first up because apparently Carly, who works with us here and the producer, apparently you text us a couple of weeks back when the, when your episode came out, you went, oh my God, I didn't realize I was being recorded now. We thought that.
6:30 Speaker 03 Oh wow.
6:31 Speaker 07 We know, guys. Yeah, and people text me, say, Luca, what's going on? You are in a podcast. Oh, wow. Fantastic, though.
6:40 Speaker 03 Yeah.
6:41 Speaker 07 It's very exciting.
6:42 Speaker 03 That does make it more glad you feel that it makes it more exciting. Because, sorry, yes, we're so used to when we go, hey, it's Hamish and Andy here.
6:49 Speaker 02 Yeah.
6:50 Speaker 03 We.
6:50 Speaker 07 Ciao, guys.
6:51 Speaker 02 Yeah.
6:52 Speaker 03 It just sort of, it's just sort of, we think it's implied that, you know, we're calling from the studio. That you're right.
6:57 Speaker 02 Yes.
6:57 Speaker 03 And just to let you know, you're on the podcast again.
6:59 Speaker 02 Yes.
7:00 Speaker 03 And this is for the show.
7:01 Speaker 07 Hello to all the audience then as well.
7:03 Speaker 03 Oh, what a man.
7:04 Speaker 02 Yes. So, Luca, we have set a date for the challenge, which is very exciting. You're familiar with the date. Are we making the date public?
7:14 Speaker 03 No, I think we just, it's a couple of weeks away because we don't want hordes of people throwing off me, throwing off Luca, you know, at the back as I pull into the pizza shop, rocking the car, yelling, you're never gonna do it, mate.
7:26 Speaker 02 Within the next three to six weeks then, let's just say, let's just say that.
7:30 Speaker 07 Okay.
7:31 Speaker 02 Um, what we need to do though is nail down the rules between the two of you. We went, we battered out a fair bit of it. We're gonna have six jury members though. Jack will be the jury foreman, so he's gonna be there. And we thought today, Luca, like any good trial, I was gonna present to you a lot of people that have come forward wanting to be part of the pizza jury. And you and Hamish have to be happy with everybody that's registered. So there's no bias. Okay? So you've got the right to veto anyone as I go through the applications. Does that make sense?
8:04 Speaker 07 That's, that's, sounds good. Yeah.
8:06 Speaker 02 Okay. There's three pizzas. Hamish gets to make two, you get to make one. It's in front of six jury members.
8:13 Speaker 03 Yep.
8:13 Speaker 02 They will all just put forward what they thought was their best pizza.
8:17 Speaker 03 Yep. And we cut, so everyone gets one slice. They come out, pizzas come out one at a time.
8:20 Speaker 02 Hmm.
8:21 Speaker 03 And you gotta, you know, you can have your own system, how you score it. And then, yeah, pizza one, two or three, they'll always be served hot.
8:28 Speaker 02 Yes.
8:29 Speaker 03 And you get one slice each. So I don't think anyone will be, well, actually, I'm gonna ask the jury, how many pieces of pizza do you normally eat? If I'm, I'm a five or a six kind of slice guy.
8:40 Speaker 02 I think they should just have one of each.
8:43 Speaker 03 Well, they have to have one of each, but some people eat like a bird. And by the third piece, they're like, oh God, no, I'm full. And they don't enjoy the third piece. Um, I never enjoy my sixth piece, but I very much still enjoy the third piece, you know?
8:55 Speaker 02 Yeah.
8:56 Speaker 05 Maybe they don't have to eat to completion.
8:58 Speaker 02 Per slice.
8:59 Speaker 03 I just don't want people that can't handle three slices.
9:01 Speaker 02 Yeah, I know what you're saying. Well, we'll get to that later down the track. But in the meantime, we will cut the pizza into six slices. And then so the six jury members will finish that pizza. So they can be, can't be accused of a slice being slid in. And they can be like, deal or no deal. We check that all slices are gone. So there's no confusion. I'll now present to you people that want to potentially be part of the jury. And you two both have to say you're fine with it. Okay, Luca?
9:30 Speaker 07 Da, fantastic.
9:32 Speaker 02 Okay. This is from Casey. Ahoy, boys. I've just listened to the recent app about the pizza showdown. As someone who lives in Endeavour Hills.
9:41 Speaker 03 Yeah, great.
9:41 Speaker 02 And frequents La Calabrese, which is the.
9:45 Speaker 03 Okay, yep, that's the pizza shop. That's Luca's shop.
9:47 Speaker 02 I commend your bravery. It's a showdown I would love to witness. I would love to apply to be part of the jury. I promise to be non-bias member.
9:55 Speaker 03 Okay, this worries me because they're a regular customer of Luca's. He's probably charmed them. We can hear how charming he is. They probably love Luca. And they would also already know what his pizza tastes like.
10:08 Speaker 02 Yeah.
10:08 Speaker 03 They have a reference.
10:09 Speaker 02 It's a good point. You're going to veto him?
10:12 Speaker 03 I don't think I can have someone coming in that knows what the pizza tastes like because it'd be too obvious to them.
10:17 Speaker 02 Luca, do you have a problem with Casey being on the jury?
10:20 Speaker 03 No, of course.
10:20 Speaker 07 No, I actually love to have Casey in the jury.
10:25 Speaker 02 Okay, it's a veto, it's a veto. No, no, sorry, sorry. Casey's gone.
10:30 Speaker 03 Now, I'm not excluding, I'm not excluding Casey from celebrating in the win afterwards. Because again, the prize here is if I win, there'll be a hundred pizza credit put at the shop. We're not going to eat a hundred pizzas. We, this is pizza for the people. That's what I'm, that's who I'm doing it for. And I guess it's a bit of an honesty system. You don't have to be completely, you know, down on your luck. But I would like it to be people that.
10:55 Speaker 02 Well, I think, I think we said that those who have a hamish, any loyalty to it, that might be the way that we.
10:59 Speaker 03 But I'd, I'd extend it even further. I'd just go, just self-select to go, you know what? Our family could use four pizzas. For whatever reason, we've had a tough week. Pizza for battlers.
11:09 Speaker 02 No more than four.
11:11 Speaker 03 No more than four, but by the same token.
11:13 Speaker 02 Maximum order four.
11:14 Speaker 03 Be respectful with how you're doing it.
11:17 Speaker 02 Nice. Okay. Second person applying for the jury.
11:22 Speaker 02 Her name is Keely Judge. She said, I'd love to join the panel of judges. As my surname is Judge, I feel like it's a task I was literally born for. We're having pizza for dinner tonight as my partner and I sit down to watch the footy. So I consider this training and hopefully I can be a part of the big day. You're, love your work, Judge Keely, AKA Keely Judge.
11:43 Speaker 03 That's a yes from me.
11:45 Speaker 02 Luca?
11:46 Speaker 07 Yes, sir.
11:47 Speaker 02 Yeah, okay. Were you saying yes as in you're there or yes, you're happy with that person to be on the jury?
11:52 Speaker 07 I'm very happy. I've confirmed this second judge.
11:55 Speaker 02 Okay, great, great, great, fantastic.
11:57 Speaker 03 She sounds great.
11:59 Speaker 02 Um, Emma, she'd like her application, uh, for the, to be part of the people's jury for the pizza. My qualifications include being a lifelong pizza lover who partakes frequently, a South Indian suburbs native who is local to Luca's shop but has never been before.
12:15 Speaker 03 She's in.
12:16 Speaker 02 I'm also a nurse and it's nice to reward nurses with pizzas.
12:20 Speaker 03 She's double in.
12:21 Speaker 02 Yeah. Uh, Luca, you happy with that?
12:24 Speaker 07 I'm very happy.
12:25 Speaker 02 Okay, done. Callahan, I just heard the episode laying down about a hundred pizza challenge. I live in Endeavour Hills. Well, I'd love to be a part of the pizza jury. I recently completed actual jury duty. So I know what it takes, I have experience with juries and I know how to act unbiasedly. I also have much experience with pizza eating. I like it a lot.
12:48 Speaker 03 Good, yeah, very much in.
12:50 Speaker 02 Yeah, in.
12:51 Speaker 03 Very much.
12:51 Speaker 02 Luca?
12:53 Speaker 07 Yes, I really actually happy to have someone that understand very well about pizza.
12:58 Speaker 03 Okay, great, yeah, exactly. You want an expert on that, yeah.
13:01 Speaker 02 Great, great. Angela, were we three in? Got two to go. I'd like to put my hand up to be judge for the pizza bake off. It's not his official name.
13:13 Speaker 02 I'm currently between jobs, so I have time and leisure to undertake grueling taste tasks. I live outside the state, so no bias to the location. I can pay for my own flight, cheapest possible available. Now we'll fly you in.
13:26 Speaker 03 Now we'll fly you in.
13:27 Speaker 02 I do love a good pizza. The type of pizza, no, I've got to retract that last bit. I'm not going to say the type of pizzas that this person likes.
13:35 Speaker 03 Don't say that because that's just what we'll cook.
13:37 Speaker 02 Yeah. But how do you feel about Angela?
13:41 Speaker 03 In.
13:41 Speaker 07 I think, ah, she's perfect.
13:45 Speaker 02 Perfect.
13:47 Speaker 03 Not, I mean, at the more serious end, when they do jury duty and jury selection, this is just based on movies, but you do never see a lawyer just like, kind of lovingly say, I think you're perfect.
14:00 Speaker 03 You're the jury member we've always dreamed of.
14:03 Speaker 02 Final one then, potentially. This is from Caleb. Dear hiring manager, I'd like to formally apply for the position of pizza judge. See my attached resume. And he's just attached a photo of him eating a pizza.
14:17 Speaker 03 He's in. He's in. Where's Caleb from?
14:21 Speaker 02 No idea. Luca, you happy with Caleb?
14:24 Speaker 07 Yes. Yes, the resume guy is a legend, of course.
14:29 Speaker 02 We have a jury. That was quicker than I thought. We have a date coming up. Expected in the next three to six weeks. We'll get, if you, people are interstate that I've read out, we will make sure we fly you in, cheapest available. How are you feeling, Ham?
14:43 Speaker 03 Yeah, I got one more thing to add. Luca, you very generously in our last meeting was like, hey, you can just use my pizza dough that I'm making here because the dough is so critical to the pizza, really. Do you think, Luca, though, I worry that if I win using your dough, I'll sort of still feel like, you know, a huge part of it was. I was, I was driving someone else's car and they had brake assist on and I was, you know, did I really win the race? What are you guys think? Do you think I should have to create my own dough and bring it?
15:19 Speaker 07 But you know what, Emi, sorry that I interrupt guys. The thing is like two pizza and one pizza. So if I don't wanna also, because the, the judge gonna be like influenced by that because they're gonna see two pizza, similar color, similar crunch and maybe they gonna guess.
15:39 Speaker 03 Yeah, you're right. Actually, we do have to use the same dough.
15:42 Speaker 07 Let's make it really, they, they really can know who made it.
15:46 Speaker 03 Ah, it's true.
15:47 Speaker 07 Already when you, if you're gonna stretch it, already laughing, I, I don't know. I thought maybe I underestimated you, but already stretching it like it's already big job, you know what I mean?
15:57 Speaker 03 Like, fair enough.
15:58 Speaker 07 They're not gonna help that much.
16:00 Speaker 03 Well, I think, I think you raised a great point. Because otherwise if he goes, well, pizza number one was a beautiful kind of white thin crust of pizza. Pizza number two was a lump of wholemeal dough with some pineapple, with some tin pineapple jammed on it. And then pizza three was great, but I do wanna win the hundred pizzas. So I'm gonna say number two was the best. Yeah, you can't do that.
16:22 Speaker 02 That's why I'm worried about the, the two from you and the one from Luca. Because I mean, are we gonna see, are they gonna notice two similar?
16:29 Speaker 03 How about this? How about this? We, one of us will do two, one of us will do one, but we toss a coin before our hand to start. And the, the jury never knows who did two, who did one.
16:41 Speaker 02 Oh, I love that.
16:42 Speaker 03 Cause that way they're not kind of calculating to go, okay, well, I'm trying to give the win falsely to him. You just have to go off your heart.
16:49 Speaker 05 Well, then you might as well just do one on one because that, the idea was to give you a handicap, I think. So that you have two shots to beat him.
16:56 Speaker 02 And also if there's two good pizzas and one poor one, they'll know the good ones are coming from.
17:00 Speaker 03 Maybe it's just one on one.
17:02 Speaker 02 I think it should just be one on one.
17:03 Speaker 05 I forget, what, what?
17:04 Speaker 03 I can't quite remember why we're doing three.
17:08 Speaker 02 I think it's just one and one.
17:10 Speaker 03 One and one, and you just don't know which one it was.
17:12 Speaker 02 Yeah.
17:13 Speaker 03 Like.
17:13 Speaker 02 And these people have never been to this pizza shop.
17:16 Speaker 03 Yep. Who wants to kick first?
17:17 Speaker 07 True.
17:17 Speaker 02 Yeah.
17:18 Speaker 03 I think that sounds fair, Luca.
17:20 Speaker 02 You happy with that, Luca?
17:21 Speaker 07 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That sounds a smart way to do it.
17:25 Speaker 03 Okay, this is so exciting.
17:26 Speaker 07 So guys, but the judge, what's gonna judge actually? Like the bite, the dog crunch, or mainly the topping flavour balance?
17:35 Speaker 02 I think it's just.
17:36 Speaker 03 I think you raise a good point. Do we give a scorecard out, Andy? So each slice, so here's how I imagine it. Each slice has, let's say there's five things, right? Out of 10 that you score, like you said, Luca, that a real pizza judge would judge on. So it's the texture, it's the crunch, it's the whatever it is, the mouth feel, the consistency, how well you think it's cooked, whatever. So each slice gets a score out of 50, ultimate, you know, best score being 50. So then each pizza, you add up all those 50s, it has a score out of 300. And so then it's like, who, who got the greatest score out of the two pizzas?
18:13 Speaker 02 We could do that. My feeling is.
18:15 Speaker 03 Sounds like you want to.
18:16 Speaker 02 No, my feeling is.
18:17 Speaker 05 My gut's saying we just go, because when you have a great pizza, you're like, that's a great pizza. You don't go like, oh, that was perfect.
18:23 Speaker 03 Is this more serious than that?
18:24 Speaker 05 Feel in mouth or whatever you said.
18:26 Speaker 02 That's what I'm thinking with you, Jack. I was like, what makes a better pizza? The one I liked more eating, I think that's.
18:32 Speaker 03 Are we just going purely a vibe?
18:34 Speaker 02 I think so. I think it's just like, I liked this pizza more. That's what makes it a better pizza.
18:39 Speaker 03 Can we still score them? I think you have to write down how you felt about the pizza, pizza number one after you eat it.
18:44 Speaker 02 Yep.
18:45 Speaker 03 And in some way, that means you can compare pizza number one to pizza number two.
18:49 Speaker 02 Yep. Yeah, okay.
18:50 Speaker 03 It's just, okay, I really liked this. I'm giving it an 8.9. I'm not going to explain where that comes from. I can't itemize that score. But I know what I mean when I, when I say an 8.9. And then everyone, we add up the score, we add up the total score for the pizza.
19:05 Speaker 02 Yep.
19:06 Speaker 03 Based on, based on both people's feel.
19:07 Speaker 02 Yeah, I like that.
19:08 Speaker 03 My final question, and maybe we can sort this out on the day. But as you put the topping on, you get it on the flat shovel, get it in the oven, you gotta cook it. It's obviously wood fired. You're gonna be managing the heat, checking it.
19:22 Speaker 07 Oh, yes.
19:25 Speaker 03 I've done a quick Google, but.
19:29 Speaker 03 Do we only get one attempt each? Or if you pull it out and you're like, okay, I've burnt that, I'm going again. Is it like a window that we have? Almost like in Formula One qualifying where it's like, what do they get? Like half an hour to put your best lap in? And you go, okay, okay, that pizza's burnt. I think I can do better. Go one more. I'm happy with this one. I'm sending it out.
19:50 Speaker 02 Yeah, I think that introduces the handicap back to Hamish. I like that because you were gonna get two goes to beat him. So maybe it's just he can have a couple of goes.
19:58 Speaker 03 I can send out the best of two pizzas. Or I get one life.
20:02 Speaker 02 Yeah.
20:04 Speaker 03 If I don't like the way my first pizza comes out, I can use my other life. But that will mean I must perform on the next pizza.
20:11 Speaker 02 Yeah, because you're not gonna send out a cold pizza.
20:12 Speaker 03 Because you're either sending about a bad one or a cold bad one.
20:14 Speaker 02 Yeah, it's not your home oven. I think that's fair. You happy about Luca?
20:18 Speaker 07 How about, okay, let's say yes to this, but also the pizza that you're gonna present to the judge, that it's maybe gonna be good, but maybe gonna be very bad. What I gonna do? If you lose, I gonna have in the menu Hamish pizza, which is, it is bad. A lot of people gonna try how bad you done.
20:42 Speaker 02 You will replicate.
20:43 Speaker 07 Because it's risky for my brand, right? So it is really a bit for you as well.
20:48 Speaker 02 So you replicate the bad pizza and add it to your menu.
20:52 Speaker 03 I will live on, I will live on in shame on the menu and, and, and you'll, I guess you'll have to say on the menu, like, warning, this is a bad pizza.
21:02 Speaker 02 Yeah, you have to.
21:04 Speaker 07 That's what are gonna happen exactly. Like it's a little risky for you as well.
21:08 Speaker 02 Yeah.
21:08 Speaker 03 Yeah, God, I like it.
21:09 Speaker 02 Well, I really like that. Okay, thanks, Luca.
21:11 Speaker 07 Me too.
21:14 Speaker 02 See you, mate. Bye.
21:20 Speaker 03 And if there's one thing we hate on this show, it's people feeling un-powerful. And therefore we must try and rectify that balance with power moves. Now into, I think at least it's second year on the show.
21:37 Speaker 02 Still fresh.
21:38 Speaker 03 Still fresh. They will keep doing it as long as they keep going because they still make me laugh. And that's the test.
21:44 Speaker 02 How many books remaining, you reckon?
21:45 Speaker 03 Oh, I think.
21:46 Speaker 02 One or two. One or two.
21:48 Speaker 03 At least two.
21:49 Speaker 02 Yeah, they're still available at the Hogs of the Madman price at the home machine.com. I think everything else at our store's got sold out, except for them, but it's a great gift. As you said, the kids thoroughly enjoying them.
22:00 Speaker 03 Kids loving them. He ordered a few more. The, the number was outrageous. It was like a few more copies than there are, there was the population of Australia.
22:09 Speaker 02 It was crazy. It was absolutely crazy.
22:11 Speaker 03 It was enormous.
22:11 Speaker 02 Yes. Well, he did an initial order and then got, he saw that they were selling and got so excited that he doubled the order. And we're like, no, no, no.
22:20 Speaker 03 Hogs, hogs, hogs.
22:22 Speaker 02 Anyway, uh, Haim, this one's from William. World Cup power move, although it could work across a lot of sports. I actually did this and didn't realise the power move.
22:32 Speaker 03 Great.
22:33 Speaker 02 For an AFL match at my sister's house. When watching the World Cup, our only sporting event, put the TV slash video live stream on a short 30 second to a minute delay.
22:46 Speaker 02 Then keep tabs on the score on your phone or similar device.
22:50 Speaker 03 Very good.
22:51 Speaker 02 When you notice a score differential, you can immediately throw out a, gee, Argentina are looking good here. Surely they have to get a goal soon.
23:03 Speaker 03 Yeah. I mean, it's a great, I mean, soccer even more impressive because of course frequency of scoring lower.
23:09 Speaker 02 Or, or they've changed the formation. This might throw the opposition, something like, something like that.
23:16 Speaker 03 Really is your oracle to expert comments.
23:18 Speaker 02 Before suddenly, of course, you have the excitement of the goal going in and everyone looking at you, you're thinking you're an absolute expert.
23:25 Speaker 03 I can read the game. I, I read the game like a language, but you probably just see a fun sport with a bunch of people playing it. This comes in from Caitlin. This is great. This is a cross. This is two segments. It's a crossover episode across two segments, power moves and something else. She goes, hey, I told my mum, you know, big fans of the show, told my mum I signed her up for a gusto check at her workplace. So she answers the phone with the most gusto every day. I'm yet to submit her for a gusto check.
23:58 Speaker 03 Could be any day mum. Every phone call, it's not them, they're getting closer.
24:03 Speaker 02 Elijah, power move for you boys. When taking a group photo and one person is just slightly shorter than the others, ask them to stand up nice and tall.
24:15 Speaker 02 For example, nice and tall for me here Noah.
24:21 Speaker 03 Nice and tall is a lovely touch because it shows care. It shows care. Um, all right, this comes in from Jesse. When you're in a conversation with friends and there's a lot of jokes flying around, turn to your target and say, whoa, are you trying out a new laugh? This will leave them puzzled as to how they laughed and bring everyone else's attention to their laugh going forward.
24:44 Speaker 03 This one from Troy. Power move.
24:49 Speaker 02 Workplace setting. Particularly works good in an open plan office.
24:55 Speaker 02 Go up to a coworker and quietly ask if you can have a word in private with them.
25:02 Speaker 02 Then proceed to walk around the office from room to room to create the image that your coworker just follows you around everywhere.
25:15 Speaker 03 Um, all right. This is a goodie. A little bit involved, but I like it. From Dylan. How move. Remember how some beer companies like Two Isn't Stuff used to put trivia inside their bottle caps and you'd ask someone the question at a drinks or barbecue? Yeah, a lot of fun. When you open the bottle that's from a company that doesn't do trivia on the lid, hold your lid towards yourself and pretend that you are asking a trivia question, but make the trivia question something the person would definitely know. For example, asking your Lebanese friend, what's the tree on the Lebanese flag? Confidently, they will say, that's the cedar tree, to which you reply, no, it's actually the oak tree. This will put them in a fit of rage. They'll try and convince you of the obvious right answer while you keep saying, it's okay, you'll get the next one.
26:10 Speaker 02 We had a gas leak at our apartment, um, which-
26:15 Speaker 03 Have you had one of these before?
26:16 Speaker 02 Well, we had a flood.
26:17 Speaker 03 The flood, yes.
26:18 Speaker 02 Yeah, it had a full flood.
26:19 Speaker 03 Liquid leak.
26:21 Speaker 02 We've had everything there. It's been there probably since we moved in, but I've just kind of been ignoring it.
26:26 Speaker 03 Well, to be fair, Andy, you've lived in this apartment now for what, 15 years while you're building your compound?
26:32 Speaker 02 Yeah.
26:33 Speaker 03 Yeah, I've been there long enough for things to go wrong.
26:36 Speaker 02 So it's been there since the beginning.
26:38 Speaker 03 Wait, you've smelled a gas smell since the beginning and you haven't raised it?
26:41 Speaker 02 Yeah, and I know it goes against me. It's more like a fast and loose thing that Haye might do.
26:45 Speaker 03 God, that's a nervous light up for a dart on the couch.
26:51 Speaker 03 Luckily, a few times, few times an hour, you have a test plane.
26:57 Speaker 02 It's in the cupboard under the cooktop. So when you go in there to get a plate or bowl, you're like-
27:03 Speaker 03 You can smell it.
27:04 Speaker 02 You go, whoa, like, wow, if it hits you, yes. But then, once you put, once you close the cupboard and you put the crockery away-
27:13 Speaker 03 Yeah, yeah.
27:14 Speaker 02 Or you don't need it anymore, you tend to just go, oh, well, it's contained roughly in-
27:17 Speaker 03 Oh my, I'm shocked. This is like opposite, though, and you're doing Haye's control.
27:21 Speaker 02 Yeah, yeah.
27:24 Speaker 02 It's, it's-
27:25 Speaker 03 I would go to my drawer that's labelled gas detectors and voltage detectors. Now, I do, anytime I suspect there's a gas leak and I realise this actually not too long ago, and I thought our oven, I thought our stove wasn't turning off properly, and you go to ignite it, I realise I squinted my eyes because I thought, I still need to see what's going on, but if this erupts, I want a little, I want a bit of a head start to be able to shut them fully before the fireball hits my face.
27:54 Speaker 02 So Beck's sister comes around to hang with Beck and she goes to get the plates and she goes, whoa, guys, guys, what is this? I was like, yeah, it's a bit of a gas leak. And she goes, that's really dangerous. Like, it's, it's, it's potent. And I was like, yeah.
28:11 Speaker 03 It's how Sideshow Bob tried to kill Paddy or Selma or Jack from Deep Simpsons reference.
28:16 Speaker 02 Yes. So anyway, we're like, okay, we'll get the plumber. But then the reason why it is annoying is you have to- Go to the agent who, the apartment agent who's so long and.
28:29 Speaker 03 Go to your landlord.
28:30 Speaker 02 Go to my landlord, Hugh, he owns the apartment.
28:35 Speaker 02 And then they're reluctant to spend any money on it. So they're like, are you sure? Can you do it yourself? So there's all this rigmarole. That's why it's been taken so long. Anyway, they eventually agreed to send the plumber out.
28:48 Speaker 02 And the plumber has to take out all the crockery in the plates and stuff to get to it because it's under there.
28:54 Speaker 03 I don't mean this to be disrespectful to plumbers in any way. My dad being a licensed one, well, former licensed, I don't think he's on the pipes anymore.
29:04 Speaker 03 Plumbers do gas?
29:05 Speaker 02 Yeah.
29:05 Speaker 03 Yeah. Yeah. If it's pipes, if it's pipes, we do it. Is that?
29:10 Speaker 03 There's not a plumber for gas plumbing?
29:12 Speaker 02 Nah.
29:13 Speaker 03 Cool.
29:13 Speaker 02 Plumbing, plumbing is the plumbers.
29:15 Speaker 03 I didn't think they had enough credit for that. I think we just think they're all water and then, but there's a whole gas system.
29:20 Speaker 02 Yep. Yep. So he has to take out all the crockery in the plates for the cupboard. I come, he was doing one day, I come home, I open it, it's stacked completely differently.
29:31 Speaker 03 Okay.
29:31 Speaker 02 But also stacked better.
29:34 Speaker 03 Now he's back to Andy.
29:36 Speaker 02 So, so, so I'm looking at this going, wow.
29:41 Speaker 02 I wondered, did he take it out and think that we could have had a better arrangement of the different bowls and plates? Or did he not remember that way it came out?
29:51 Speaker 03 And he intuitively is a talented stacker. Or he's in so many cupboards because that's probably the thing before the pipes. So he has to unstack and restack so many cupboards. He's either A, got good at it over the years. Or B, maybe they teach it to you, going, you're going to come in contact with a lot of cupboards. When you're, when you're like at TAFE or whatever, going, hey, you know, you don't want to upset your clients. This is how you please them.
30:17 Speaker 02 Well, he joins us now so we can find out. Yes. I have never met Rowan. We had to go through a complex system to track him down because he's.
30:25 Speaker 03 You're probably not allowed to know who he was because they're trying to keep you apart.
30:29 Speaker 02 Yes. So Rowan, ahoy to you, mate.
30:31 Speaker 04 Yeah. G'day guys. How's it going?
30:33 Speaker 02 Thank you. I know you're busy. Um, by the way, do you learn water first and then gas? Or are you learning it at the same time when you become a plumber?
30:42 Speaker 04 Yeah, sorry. Um, you probably just heard my job.
30:45 Speaker 06 Manager is just going off in the background there telling him I've got a job in five minutes. But yeah, we do, we do, we do start with water and then we move on to gas. But you kind of learn parts of both as you go.
30:57 Speaker 03 Water can be a gas, of course, and gas can come back to water. Not that gas, but that's a different gas. But do you know it's, I mean, we'll get to the plates in a sec and I know you've got a job manager going off. But do you know gas is coming? Is everyone excited to get to gas because it means you're kind of getting through the course? Or do you prefer water or?
31:15 Speaker 06 No, no, you're right. You do actually, when you're learning, you, you look forward to doing the gas and the harder sort of things. You sort of feel like you're a big kid.
31:23 Speaker 03 Yeah, that's because, because, because gas is copper pipes, isn't it? So you have to weld those and like that's big boy stuff, not just like glue and pipes together with water. That's, yeah, that's probably cool stuff.
31:35 Speaker 06 Yeah, that's exactly it.
31:39 Speaker 06 They go for big kids, yeah.
31:42 Speaker 03 Rowan.
31:43 Speaker 06 Yes.
31:43 Speaker 03 First of all, congratulations on the restack. Yeah, well done, Rowan. It sounds like you've really pleased the customer here. So first question, did you look at my stacking and the way I had arranged it and went, oh, this could be better? Or did you take it all out and then realise you had to restack?
32:00 Speaker 06 Well, here's, here's where it gets slightly even more complicated than real estate agents and owners and stuff. Because the person who actually did all the restacking was my apprentice.
32:10 Speaker 03 No way.
32:12 Speaker 06 So he's probably just a natural, I guess.
32:14 Speaker 03 Yeah, right. How young, how new to the job?
32:16 Speaker 06 He has just turned seventeen, so he's very big. He's obviously really good at stacking dishes.
32:22 Speaker 03 I know it's hard to hang on to a good apprentice, but you've got to do everything you can to keep him. He's a game changer.
32:27 Speaker 06 He is. That's what I've been hearing. So it's sort of feedback on the street.
32:31 Speaker 03 Credibly that, that I hadn't done was he's kite stacked it. So like the lower items he put to the front. Yep. Not necessarily the item you use the most. I had the plates at the front because he used it the most, but it actually makes it so much easier to get to everything the way he's put it back in. Now, is that something you're taught or is he, that just pure intuitive from him?
32:53 Speaker 06 I think he just must be a bit of a savant.
32:56 Speaker 03 Yeah.
32:58 Speaker 03 He's good.
33:00 Speaker 03 Can we just quickly talk about the gas for a second? How close to Andy, how close to exploding was Andy? Was it a significant leak?
33:07 Speaker 06 Uh, yeah, it was fairly significant. Yeah, I would say that probably just had just enough ventilation to stop getting to the right percentages, like have ratio where it becomes explosive and you can blow yourself up. Like slow trip on.
33:23 Speaker 03 I'm not even trying to be funny, but do you, is that quite referenced in the plumbing industry, the side show Bob? Gas leak, cause it'd be that and Fight Club where there's the gas leak explosion, probably the two biggest gas leaks that come to mind in my mind in pop culture.
33:36 Speaker 06 Yeah, I guess we haven't, we don't get taught that during the syllabus, but um, it's always in your mind, I think.
33:42 Speaker 03 Yeah.
33:45 Speaker 02 Rowan, applaud your apprentice at seventeen years of age, cause at seventeen years of age, I mean, he's obviously, his parents are making him unpack the dishwasher. But if he's ever in a shared house.
33:55 Speaker 03 My god, he's been raised.
33:56 Speaker 02 That's skilled, but um, Rowan, thanks very much.
33:58 Speaker 06 He's, he's just here, I was gonna ask him, Dills, do you have to stack the dishes at home? He does, yeah.
34:03 Speaker 03 Yeah.
34:04 Speaker 06 So you can pass on the credit to his mum.
34:08 Speaker 03 Absolutely. You can tell that that is just, that's a man that's come out of a sixteen year long training camp. He's probably given the first year of his life off and now he gets it. Well, congrats.
34:17 Speaker 02 Get onto that uh, that job that your manager's on the back for. You're doing a fantastic job, mate. Appreciate it.
34:22 Speaker 06 Cool. Thanks guys. Keep up the good work.
34:23 Speaker 02 Bye.
34:23 Speaker 06 Yeah.
34:24 Speaker 03 Legend.
34:29 Speaker 03 Um, gentlemen, we just got back from a quick, very quick trip to Italy, over and back.
34:36 Speaker 02 Yep.
34:37 Speaker 03 Click joint um, with the kids. It was actually wonderful. Great family holiday. Went hiking, did a bunch of fun stuff. Loved it. As I've sort of mentioned before, sometimes on family holidays, it's, it does fall to me to go, I'm gonna organise. Well, maybe it doesn't even fall to me, but I like to think of myself as the guy that's like, hey, I've booked something fun for the team.
34:58 Speaker 02 Yeah, you do a good job. I mean, as far as admin goes, Hame does a great job of holidays for family, but also for mates as well. You, you seem to lock in for that stuff. Why is that?
35:10 Speaker 03 I think because it's always, I could get very excited, like in the moment and, and that, and I can ride that. And so this is where maybe it comes undone because you sometimes don't look into it too much. I always have a romantic idea of when I book it, how amazing this is gonna be for the family. So we're in this small seaside town in Italy. We went in the mountains and we're in this seaside town for like four nights, four days. And I've gone, look, I know if you're just at the beach, that's great. And like, it's pretty rinse and repeat when you're at the beach with the kids. But I was like, I think by day three, we'll be getting antsy. Like it is a small town. Why don't I have a little Google, see what we can do for fun. And I find something that is a walking, really a pesto cooking class where you catch the boat to Portofino. Yeah. With a guide. Hang on.
35:55 Speaker 03 They teach you how to cook pesto.
35:57 Speaker 02 Right. So you said walking.
35:59 Speaker 03 Well, it mentioned walking briefly. Like, we'll, we'll show you a few sites in Portofino, which is a port.
36:06 Speaker 02 Yes.
36:07 Speaker 03 Like a little beautiful iconic port. But mostly it's a pesto cooking class. So I go, great. This is going to be an honor, you would think.
36:17 Speaker 02 Yeah.
36:17 Speaker 03 Teaching us, this is a great photo. This is a great moment for the kids. Not very complicated pesto. I don't know how to make it, but it doesn't seem expensive at the shops and it can't have too many ingredients in it. I assume it's olive oil and something green. I had to guess, Basil. Like, but who cares? Because that's about the skill level for kids, right?
36:36 Speaker 02 Yeah.
36:37 Speaker 03 So I tell Zoe, hey, I've booked this. Great news. Go online, book it. We meet the guy, we're going to meet Enzo at the docks and it's just going to be gorgeous. She's like, how long is it? It's like, not that, it's like, not that long. I don't really know, but it says, it says three hours. I'm sure it won't be three hours because it's just a boat ride. And really we go to this nonna's house and we cook some pesto. And we, we know, we meet Enzo, I was like 10 o'clock. It's a heat, it was a heat wave when we were there. It's like, all right, 10 to one, heat of the day. It's like, no, it's great. I think it's great because you know, you're on the water. That's cool.
37:12 Speaker 02 That's cool.
37:13 Speaker 03 Get to the dock and you have to catch the ferry first up. It is like 38 degrees or something.
37:20 Speaker 03 So we had to walk, obviously you have to walk from the hotel down to the dock. Yeah. We get this, I was like, I didn't know like how much walking is there. I said, well, there's gonna be some walk. I mean, we're not on segways. There's gonna be some walking to get to places, but not much. Hmm. We meet Enzo, the ferry is so crowded. He's like, let's just wait for the next one. We're standing out in the building sun. Morale is already going through the floor. Like Zoe is glaring at me. Zoe does not like being in the sun. Yeah. Very UV conscious. Hmm. She is glaring at me from under a wide brimmed hat. Enzo meanwhile is like, this is his job and he's like, you know, I don't know, 50, 55. And when you're a tour guide, it's a little bit like being a stand up for a very small crowd.
38:04 Speaker 03 Like it's about energy management. You've got to come out, you've got to start strong. You've got to keep the crowd's attention. Yes. Zoe is so annoyed by this stage. The only people so Enzo is, yeah, okay. Yeah, private tour for people. I'm running off and getting waters and chopper chops and stuff. I think you're just to try and keep blood sugar up, mostly for Zoe, but just keep everyone's vibe high. Yes. Enzo's, he can tell it's a tough crowd. Yes. His English is obviously his second language. You don't need to speak perfect English to know when you're bombing. And he's trying to tell us facts about the port, who built the port. I am like Enzo's mum who's come to his first stand up gig. Standing in the front going, wow, wow.
38:47 Speaker 03 Turning around, I'm trying out so many wows. Look at that. This is why you go on these tours, go, you never know that stuff. Anyway, the ferry comes, we get off and he goes, now we go for a quick walk. And Zoe goes, how long is the walk? But it's okay. It's his town and it's his, we're just gonna see some interesting things. And I couldn't say to Enzo, hey, my wife hates this, so.
39:12 Speaker 03 You really need to bring out something, but I believe in, I believe in this spirit of, you know, I, I always have great faith that when you book these things, they're going to go great.
39:21 Speaker 02 Yes.
39:22 Speaker 03 But even for me, I was like, we need something to move the needle here.
39:25 Speaker 02 Yeah.
39:25 Speaker 03 And he goes, I'm going to show you guys a really special shop. And so I'm dreaming of, oh, wow.
39:32 Speaker 03 I hadn't done such great wow since the kids did art in like kindergarten.
39:36 Speaker 02 Yep.
39:37 Speaker 03 Cause I'm going to take you to, have you guys ever had focaccia?
39:40 Speaker 02 Like, oh.
39:42 Speaker 03 Yes. Wow. What do you think of that everyone? Wow.
39:47 Speaker 02 Different type of, different type of wow at that point. It's wow. He's come up with that.
39:52 Speaker 03 You have to do better than this. And I'm looking at him going, Zo hadn't looked him in the eye now for half an hour. So we'd stop at something and he'd tell us a fact about how the Princess of Jordan had her boat here or something. And Zo was just staring into the distance, probably thinking about divorce laws or something, just like staring into the distance. We go to the focaccia shop and I just, I couldn't get a chance to, but I'm trying to tell Enzo with my eyes, mate. I'm actually in the entertainment industry and I can't entertain her. Okay. Like she is a tough crowd.
40:22 Speaker 02 Yeah.
40:22 Speaker 03 You need to do something really amazing here, mate. This, you've lost her. She's not coming back. She's very angry at me because we've been doing more walking than perhaps was advertised. We get in the focaccia shop and he goes, now, so you guys know about focaccia? And in Italy, a focaccia is a special bread. Mate, we.
40:44 Speaker 02 Wow.
40:45 Speaker 03 Wow. We have access to a focaccia in Australia like this. And he goes, and this shop I think sells the best focaccia. Wow. It's his Enzo's favourite shop. We get to the focaccia display case and there's like, you know, giant slabs of focaccia. To its credit, it looked delicious.
41:02 Speaker 02 Yes. Enzo's brother's running the shop.
41:05 Speaker 03 And so there's four different types of focaccia. He goes, this one is plain. There goes the next one, which has like olives on it. He goes, this one, it has olives. And I was like, no. And so if you're gonna go along the row here and name what we can clearly see, my wife will kill you. Like we've, this could be over. And so he does that. We eat some focaccia. I'm doing a lot of wows. Like, that's the best focaccia we've ever tasted. It was good. But at this stage, to recover from heat stroke and just the time wasting. He also took us up a big hill, which Zoe was like furious at me for. It's like, if I'd have known they'd be walking, I wouldn't have worn these sandals. There's a lot of that. I'm like, can we just go to past? I'm sorry, very hot. Let's go to past. Let's make the pesto.
41:51 Speaker 03 We're walking back through the town and Zo goes, eh, like, where's this Nana's house? I was like, I don't, honey, I don't. When Zo gets angry and I've booked something, she acts like it's my business that I've brought her along to. Like this is, like I've brought her to my job that I've been doing for 10 years. And now this is the first day I'd like her to come and see what I do, which is run tours in Italy. I was like, I don't know where the Nona lives. I, it was my first time here as well. We go to a restaurant, like, what are we doing at this restaurant? And then I realised there's two mortar and pestles set up at the restaurant. And we're doing a pesto cooking class, just seated at a table with like hundreds of tourists walking around us. And there's like a little dish of, pair of like basil. And that's, and so he goes, I thought I was at a Nana's house.
42:37 Speaker 03 Like, I, yeah, I did too. I would have, I would have thought it's at a Nana's. Did it ever say, did it ever say Nana's? I quickly was Googling it. I'm like, where did I get Nana from? And I guess I just added that in assuming that would be a nice thing to do to take us to a Nana's house. We were not at a Nana's house. We were at a tourist trap, like front row restaurant, just making pesto with me doing a lot of wow. It's just like, okay. Well, so we wrapped him up like an hour early. But he did love, I think I saved the day with, and this is, I give this to any other dad or, or mum that has organised a family tour where no one's interested in the tour. He often would stop at a spot bot and play a game instead of giving us a fact he'd
43:21 Speaker 03 sort of transition into this game he'd play, which is like one's a truth, one's a lie. Like, I'll tell you a fact about this building. Am I lying? Am I doing the truth? And, you know, Zo's just staring into the distance, not looking at him, but I'm trying to play along with the game. He would go, one is true and one is a legend. And then, so he'd make it up and they had to guess. And I, I started going to him, well, I was saying, you know, in Australia, we have a legend. His name is Hamish Blake. And I reckon after the fifth time I did that joke, the kids started coming around to it. And I reckon, we never got Zo there, but I reckon had we have gone for another hour, I, I could, I could have got it. I could have got it with the legend gag.
44:04 Speaker 03 But, um, yeah, if you guys need to know how to make pesto, you let me know. Let me know. We'll do it. Do you know there's a pinch of salt in it as well?
44:12 Speaker 02 Wow.
44:13 Speaker 03 Wow. That's the one, Jack.
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