2025 Ep 314 - ⁠10 Years, One Password

Jack reveals a HUGE development that’s been 10 years in the making! We’ve been sent some killer Power Moves - including one that’s perfect for dog owners. Andy’s discovered what might be the next-level upgrade to the AirPods Pro 3, taking their translating powers even further. Meanwhile, Hamish and Zoë reckon they’ve found a “banana portal” in a small country town - a place that mysteriously caters to the Blake family’s confectionery needs. 1. Jack's bitcoin recovery 2. Power moves 3. AirPods Pro 3 + 4. The banana chocolate portal

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  Ahoy to me Jeremiah.

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  Hey.

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  Bullfrogs, hopefully.

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  Or statues in Springfield, Ohio.

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  No, ahoy to me Conrad. Jack, ahoy.

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  Conrad, Jeremiah.

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  And I am Belly.

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  We're brothers of something?

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  Conrad, Belly. I said to the girls outside, there's no way the guys are getting this. And I'm unsure whether we should go with it. And they're like, what do you mean? Everyone will get this.

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  Oh, I know where we're from. Yeah, Bianca watches it. Samurai Turn Pretty.

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  He's got it.

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  Wow.

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  And they're celebrating outside like, no tomorrow.

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  No, it's like it's...

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  The main characters...

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  No, I know it's a show, but...

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  No, but it's like huge. It's gone like next level now. A series on Amazon called The Samurai Turn Pretty.

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  I've seen the thumbnail, sure.

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  Yeah, I've seen Beck watching it. Yeah. But yes, well done, Jack.

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  Who's the prettiest of us?

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  Uh, I think we've all blossomed.

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  Yep.

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  Haven't we? I've definitely got better.

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  Hang on, are we still doing about the show or are we talking about just in human...

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  I think we're talking about his looks. I thought we were talking about looks in general.

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  Do you think you're at peak physical?

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  Uh, I've definitely got better looking. Yeah.

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  What do you put it down to?

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  I don't know. I just like, just grown up a little bit.

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  You've had a grow up?

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  Yeah, I think I have. I look back at old photos of me like in my twenties, definitely when I started on the show. And I was like...

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  You really were a little boy back then, weren't you?

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  Yeah, I was. I was a really little boy, even at like 27. I look at my wedding photos at 27, I just look like a little junior boy.

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  Yeah. Why are we letting that page boy marry the bride?

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  Ahoy also to Jared, who's in the US, who went to hamishshane.com to give us an update of what he's been doing.

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  Ahoy, boys and little boy Jack. This is Jared calling you from Boise, Idaho, US. My wife, she had me cleaning out one of the several fruit bowl piles accumulated around the house. And from one of them, I wanted to share with you a couple of the key items that I pulled out. First being the perfect skipping stone. Natural place to put that.

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  Oh, yeah.

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  Entire rings full of keys with no known locks.

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  Yep.

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  Pen light with dead batteries, as well as half a dozen used, but not fully dead batteries that don't fit in the pen light. And of course, the main piece here is going to be the small case containing my pulled wisdom teeth from 15 years ago. Just in case I need a replacement down the road. Anyway, boys, thanks for the show. Talk to you.

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  Great inventory.

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  All worth hanging on to.

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  Yeah. It's so hard to throw away a key that you don't know where it goes.

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  Oh, my God. Yeah, the excitement, the excitement. And batteries, because you always do the thing where you're like, I know we're not meant to throw these in the bin. We'll just let these linger here till we come up with a better disposal strategy.

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  I asked to have the top of the show for something that's very important. Something that a lot of people think has been a peter out. But no, it's sat in the back of my head for a very, very long time.

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  Seven meter hat, seven meter hat. Here we bloody go.

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  It's to do, Ham.

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  Oh, thank God.

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  With the big ask.

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  Oh, thank God. Yes.

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  This is something Jack owes me.

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  Yes, I hadn't forgotten that all, and I'm sure Jack hadn't. Every night he would go to bed clutching his rosary beads and mumbling, may he forget the big ask.

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  Yes, all my, my only plan was, and this is all I could really ever do, was don't mention it. So hopefully it gets forgotten about.

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  Maybe we need a T-shirt.

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  Remember to never mention the big ask.

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  You did lose Bitcoin of mine. We've actually put this together to bring everyone up to speed because it's been quite the saga for many a year.

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  Nearly 10 years ago, Hamish and Andy lost two Bitcoin to the password gods. And even when Web Giza Jez was hypnotized, he couldn't remember the password.

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  Capital P.

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  Capital P.

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  And seven, one, two, three, four, seven.

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  One, two, three, four.

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  Don't tell me it's password, one, two, three, four.

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  So when Jack was tasked with looking after some of Andy's Bitcoin, surely they learned their lesson.

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  Get an email from Jack. Hi man. So I've walked us into some interestingly familiar territory. I currently do not have access to your or my Bitcoin.

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  It's all just a little bit of history.

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  What's happened, Jack? I will be unable to transfer the Bitcoin.

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  Let me read this.

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  It is getting to the point now where we will be able to say to this team, put your hand up if you haven't lost us Bitcoin and no one will be able to raise their hand.

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  So a debt needed to be paid in either Bitcoin or another form.

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  Jack has said he will transfer me the money because he's lost it.

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  Yeah.

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  And I said, I don't want that.

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  I want the Bitcoin.

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  But what I would like to propose, Jack, is one big ask.

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  Okay.

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  At some point next year.

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  Oh, a blank cheque ask?

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  No, not money based.

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  No, but Jack means like a wild card. Like you get to, you get to, when you think of it, ask for any favour and I can't say no.

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  Yep. Give me a big ask.

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  And I can't say no.

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  No.

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  Jack, I would be very careful.

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  What about this? You have all summer to find the Bitcoin. But if you come back episode one of next year and you haven't found it, the big ask is in play.

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  That is sadly only fair.

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  But summer was over and the little boy was looking for an extension.

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  To whom it may concern, over summer, Jack has been spending much of his time helping his elderly neighbour with chores around her house.

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  I see where this is going, Jack.

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  With this increased extracurricular load, Jack has been unable to complete his assigned Bitcoin homework. We request that you allow Jack a three months extension. Jesus.

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  Jack, in 10 weeks.

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  By show 90.

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  You better have that password.

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  By show 90.

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  By show 90, you better have that password now. I'm on Andy's side here too. I'm not, or a bloody good reason why we give you another extension.

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  So in the midst of 2020, Jack tried to tie the big ask deadline to Covid restrictions.

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  I was kind of hoping like an international travel kind of, like it might not be till next year. When footy stadiums are full again, that kind of era. There's no correlation. It's just that.

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  That's an interesting point.

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  There's no correlation to when we're, when mass crowds are allowed to attend the stadium.

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  The big ask is in play, is that what we're saying?

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  That has been my slogan.

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  So even though borders remained closed, Andy was still already pondering the big ask.

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  Is it a one-off event, the big ask? Or could I say, say to Jack, hey, can you put my bins out for the rest of the year?

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  Oh, are we carrying a big ask?

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  I would hate that.

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  Well, let's be, let's be honest. I don't think the big ask was ever going to be something you would love. It wasn't going to be like, hey, I was wondering if you could go to Byron with your life this summer.

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  But later in 2020, someone named Brad contacted Jack, saying he could help crack the code.

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  He knows a lot about computers.

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  You sound like, you sound like you're 75 on a current affair, explaining that you've got diddled.

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  He said he can build a program that will take those 24 words and check for any spelling mistakes or words that are spelt close to that, trying to.

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  It'll run all the combinations.

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  It'll run all the combinations, trying to figure out if he can get into this Bitcoin.

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  Okay.

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  He said it could take three weeks because the program, he just leaves it on overnight.

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  Okay.

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  So I left the first month, I just let him go and thought, okay, great, Brad's running the program.

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  He should be back in contact soon.

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  In the corner of his bedroom, just running helpjackout.exe.

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  I call his mobile number a couple of times and he doesn't pick up.

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  Right.

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  I send him a text saying, "Hey Brad, just trying to reach out. Let me know if you're around."

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  Probably busy coding or reading the printout.

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  It's the guy you're currently scamming.

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  Brad, when you formulated a good excuse, please give me the call and let me fill the internet. We're thinking of going with my own identity, but if you're using it today, let me know. Maybe we could do Monday, Wednesday, Friday, I'm me, Tuesday, Thursday, you're me.

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  This is the other thing that made me believe him. He said he'd already made heaps of money off Bitcoin.

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  Like hundreds of thousands. Like a Nigerian prince that doesn't need any money.

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  So I thought, well, he's not going to want to steal it.

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  Of course.

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  A full 18 months later, as the world returned to normal, the big ask came into play.

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  Jacko, expect the big ask to come into fruition next year. Okay, I'm happy that it's not right now. It gives me another summer of freedom.

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  Yes, you've got a kid coming at the same time as a big ask.

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  Oh, yeah.

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  We're going to be living a hole for two years. So it's nice to enjoy one more summer.

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  I might not, actually, now that you say that, Andy, I might not be able to deliver on favors as easily as a new father. So that will be interesting to know.

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  Already weaseling out of the big ask.

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  And Jack's impending fatherhood would turn out to be crucial to the big ask.

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  Your baby arrives on Friday.

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  This is a big ask.

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  You can't have him.

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  This is Rumplestiltskin.

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  I don't want the baby.

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  Nothing like the king ordering a firstborn.

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  I'd love my name to be amongst the names. You can't play around with names.

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  You have more chance of getting the baby.

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  The moment we all waited for. The baby name announcement came just two weeks later.

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  His given name is Gordon.

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  Right, tick. Beautiful.

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  His last name?

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  His last name?

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  Post.

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  Conventional.

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  The big ask was naming rights to the middle, in the middle, not obviously usurping Bianca's, was it granddad or dad?

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  Giancarlo, her dad, I believe. Is that correct?

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  That's Bianca's dad, yep. So he has his grandfather's name as the middle name.

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  So it's Gordon?

• 11:32Speaker 04

  Giancarlo.

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  Now, is there any additional name alongside Giancarlo?

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  There is a blank space and then Post.

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  So there's room for a name?

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  Do you mean a space like a one-character-wide space?

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  Yeah, a one-character-wide thing. Giancarlo finishes on the O, space, Post. No room for anything.

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  Are you trying to sell into Andy that that space represents him?

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  Jacko was a disgust.

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  You know what? 10 minutes in the car on the way home from the podcast, I thought, you know what? I'm not gonna do that.

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  But Jack didn't lose hope of wriggling out from under the big ask. He sought more help from the dark web. This time, a hacker named Joe.

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  Everything is breakable. Nothing's 100% secure. It just depends on how much effort you want to put into actually breaking it.

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  So the Bitcoin's on the USB, right? And you get so many attempts at the password. I was getting sick of trying the password that I thought, I'll just use the backup 24-word phrase that I wrote down. Wipe the whole device, ready to put the 24 words back in and jack it back up. And that's what I've lost. Or I don't have the right set of 24 words.

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  Intentionally erase the device and try to reset it up with the words that you want.

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  Yeah, so the device is now...

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  Hang on, so Jack, did you, in your head, were you thinking, I have the 24 words there in the other room? I'll just go and wipe it. Where were those 24 words?

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  Essentially, yes.

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  I heard there's a guy that can stitch penises back on. Before I call him, I'm gonna cut mine off. You might have better luck with that right now than trying to get it back.

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  This number is disconnected. What have I done? What have I done?

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  And so the years passed by, a big ask wasn't asked, but nor a Bitcoin returned.

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  When's the expiry? That was like seven years ago.

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  I think it's forever. I don't think this.

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  It expires as soon as you find my Bitcoin password. I've looked. I look every six months. I do a deep, deep search.

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  Yeah, right.

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  Which brings us to today. Is this finally the big ask moment?

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  What a journey we've been on.

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  Had forgotten so much of that. I cannot believe that when it first started, you're like, all right, by episode 90, here we are into the 300s.

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  I know. I had to take out bits of that. Marcy said it to me and I was like, mate, this is, I'm enjoying this, but it goes way too long. Remember we went to Jack's house with the detective and a prison guard and he flips his whole tossy's house. We had to take that bit out. Tossy's house trying to find the words. I forgot you tried to name my son. Definitely forgot about that.

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  On the day when we tossed Jack's house, remember we found a notebook of his and it was like Christmas present ideas for us. And it just was like dot, dot, dot. And then he got bored and started making up all this.

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  Back to the task at hand, the big ask.

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  The big ask.

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  Jack, you and I had a discussion about the big ask this week. Do you want to tell everybody?

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  It's funny that you mentioned the big ask recently and brought it back to light. Because I was so excited to call you this week and say, stand down, Andy. We don't need the big ask anymore. We have recovered the Bitcoin.

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  Have you really?

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  We've got it back. We've got it.

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  Do you really?

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  Honestly, I a hundred percent have it. It has been just.

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  If you're just saying this and I admire it, just to get it to one more time, just to get out of the picture.

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  A one week extension.

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  And, and, and the best news is it's in the car and I'll go and get it.

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  No.

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  Hang on. Jack, you've recovered your Bitcoin?

• 15:49Speaker 04

  It has just been the luckiest year for me because the year started with me.

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  Jack.

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  I've got it.

• 15:55Speaker 03

  There's like billions of dollars for you.

• 15:58Speaker 04

  No, no, I've got one, one Bitcoin.

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  He sold the other ones, remember? He was upset that he sold the other.

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  Oh, you did get absolutely.

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  Yeah, yeah. No, oh my God. If I had all seven or whatever I had.

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  Oh, yeah.

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  Wow.

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  I wouldn't be here.

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  Unbelievable. You wouldn't be here.

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  No time for hobbies.

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  It's in the 100, it's 190,000 at the moment, the Bitcoin.

• 16:15Speaker 04

  Yeah. And then Andy's bit is like, his was 0.18 of a Bitcoin. So you can buy.

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  Did I have any?

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  Didn't I have half of yours or something?

• 16:27Speaker 04

  You didn't have any.

• 16:27Speaker 03

  See if Marsha can go back and find that episode.

• 16:32Speaker 03

  You know what your big ask should have been, Andy? My big ask is if you find the Bitcoin again, I get half.

• 16:40Speaker 04

  Well, the man who found it isn't, his name's Anthony. He runs Find Your Crypto. That's how Jack found him on Insta, at Find Your Crypto.

• 16:49Speaker 03

  Hang on. Is this, have you seen the dollars? Have you seen the account?

• 16:53Speaker 04

  I haven't transferred it into Australian dollars, but I see it back in your wallet.

• 16:58Speaker 02

  It's in his wallet, a Bitcoin. Well, half a Bitcoin because you'll find out that Anthony has quite a large fee to.

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  What's to negotiate?

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  No, no.

• 17:12Speaker 03

  Maybe you could get your whole Bitcoin and just do a big ask for Anthony.

• 17:16Speaker 04

  No, he is, Anthony is truly my guardian angel. He, he came to me. He heard the podcast. He does this for a living now. We can speak to him. He's here.

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  He's right here, right now. Anthony, ahoy to you, mate.

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  Ahoy.

• 17:29Speaker 02

  We know you're in the UK, so there'll be a bit of a delay.

• 17:32Speaker 03

  Anthony, this is a shock to me. I never expected this chapter to end this way. I mean, I'm, I'm sorry if we cast aspersions on if it's really there, if it's real, but I am just going to ask one more time. Has it, have you really got it back?

• 17:50Speaker 08

  I, I think I'm pretty sure that we, we do have Bitcoin back and.

• 17:54Speaker 04

  He, he's been shy. He's been shy. He knows a hundred percent we've got it back. Cause the only other way is it, it can't be a scam because he sent me half of the Bitcoin.

• 18:03Speaker 02

  Unless he's just a generous guy wanting the.

• 18:05Speaker 03

  This would be a bad scam. This would be a very bad scam. Because just to people think you're the kind of person that can get Bitcoin back and it costs you hundreds of thousands of dollars a week in just buying Bitcoin for people.

• 18:16Speaker 02

  Anthony, I know these, there's a secret craft. You're like a magician mining for these things. But can you give us any idea of how you did come to find Jack's and how long it took to find Jack's and my little Porsche?

• 18:29Speaker 08

  Uh, so, uh, Jack had his 24 words written down, but I think as a bit of a safety measure, just in case a thief came into his house, I think he decided to jumble up the order of the words. And so I created a little script to go through the words and change their order. And took about 10 minutes or so, uh, and then, yeah, got, got access.

• 19:03Speaker 02

  So Jack, you found your list of 24 words?

• 19:06Speaker 04

  So I did, the day that we got the, the police into my house and flipped the house, I did show you an example of 24 words and I said, I don't think this is it because this doesn't work anymore. This must have been old.

• 19:17Speaker 02

  I remember that.

• 19:18Speaker 04

  Old 24 words, but I just couldn't get it to work. And when we got Brad on the show, who is another person who tried to hack it, his idea was to change the letters or look for spelling mistakes in the 24 words and he wasn't successful with that. Anthony.

• 19:31Speaker 02

  You forgot you personally scrambled the word.

• 19:34Speaker 04

  So what did I do, Anthony? I put the last word first and as a like, as a, as a safety measure against thieves. So I had this whole time I've had the 24 words. I just moved one word to the top as a safety measure, but I did forget the safety measure.

• 19:54Speaker 02

  It was that easy?

• 19:56Speaker 04

  Was that it, Anthony? Is that what I did?

• 19:57Speaker 08

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's it. Yeah.

• 19:59Speaker 02

  And so you've pretty much paid.

• 20:00Speaker 03

  How did you, how did you pick the lock? Well, I just jiggled it a bit harder and it just turned out you just needed a bit of elbow grease.

• 20:06Speaker 02

  So you've pretty much paid Anthony a hundred thousand dollars.

• 20:10Speaker 03

  To remember that you scrambled it.

• 20:13Speaker 04

  You gotta think of where I like Anthony came to me. He's now the third person trying to crack into this Bitcoin.

• 20:19Speaker 03

  He deserves it.

• 20:19Speaker 04

  I almost just ignored your DM Anthony because I'm like, what's the point? Why get your hopes up anymore? So I said, yeah, like knock yourself out. Probably what you'll find is the Brad, the first guy stole it. That's the only thing you'll uncover.

• 20:32Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 20:33Speaker 04

  And he said, I take 50, usually I take 50%. I said, yeah, whatever. I take it.

• 20:38Speaker 03

  Lucky almost would have gone, yeah, mate, take 90. So he's taken 50%. This is the question I want to ask. Jack, Andy had from memory point one eight, wasn't it something like that of a Bitcoin? Which at, at those prices is, is just, you know, around about 33, 34,000 dollars. So does Andy have to pay half the fee or does?

• 21:02Speaker 04

  Andy's paying 50% as well. He's not chopped out of it. Interesting. Babe, you got it out of nowhere. This Bitcoin came back in your door.

• 21:10Speaker 03

  No, no, no, no, no.

• 21:11Speaker 04

  We're gonna have to let you go, but we'll, thank you very much.

• 21:14Speaker 03

  I'd like to ask Anthony this question. Anthony, Jack was holding Andy's Bitcoin. Should Jack pay the whole fee? And Andy wasn't the one that forgot the technique. Andy is owed point one eight of a Bitcoin. Do you think Jack should pay him point one eight or point nine?

• 21:29Speaker 04

  Be smart.

• 21:30Speaker 03

  Sorry, point oh nine.

• 21:31Speaker 04

  Be smart.

• 21:32Speaker 08

  I definitely think point one eight. I think Jack, Jack held that Bitcoin.

• 21:38Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 21:38Speaker 08

  To ransom from and really.

• 21:41Speaker 03

  Mate, I a hundred percent agree. And Jack.

• 21:43Speaker 04

  Where do you say in Anthony? I didn't hold, I didn't hold anything to ransom.

• 21:47Speaker 03

  It was in your possession and you owe Andy.

• 21:50Speaker 04

  I was doing him a favor by God. Let's let Anthony go.

• 21:54Speaker 03

  Let Anthony go. Congratulations. Thank you, Anthony. Well done. Well, a lucrative 10 minutes for you.

• 22:00Speaker 04

  Cause this is funny that you say this, Ham, because.

• 22:02Speaker 03

  Jack, here's the thing. If you went to the bank and you said, hey, uh, could you look after a thousand dollars for me? And that's their job as the bank. And then they come to you and they'll be like, mate, you're not going to believe this. We can't, we forgot the body code to the.

• 22:17Speaker 03

  And we're gonna have to get a team of crackers in. I'm like, yeah, okay. Well, when can I have my thousand dollars? Oh, we don't know. Like, they're so busy and we're not even sure if they're gonna turn up. Well, I need my thousand dollars. Oh, great news. The crackers came in. They charged us so much money, though. We're gonna give you 400 bucks. Cause we had to, we had to pay the, we had to pay the safe crackers.

• 22:34Speaker 04

  Nah, different scenario, different scenario.

• 22:36Speaker 03

  Exactly.

• 22:37Speaker 04

  No, no. When Andy, when Andy, when I held Andy's Bitcoin as a favor, I think you paid 700 bucks for that portion. So for now, for it to be worth 30,000.

• 22:49Speaker 03

  Yet again, Jack, you put yourself in this position where you decide who gets what, based on the fact that you would like some money.

• 22:56Speaker 04

  I can't believe, this is like coming over and giving Andy the best birthday present I've ever given him. And then you go, oh, well, why isn't it, why is it only half its value? You borrowing my car and returning the wheels only.

• 23:08Speaker 03

  Because you should be thankful. It's a very nice car and you can afford another one.

• 23:12Speaker 04

  He's already got 20x what he put in. Be grateful.

• 23:16Speaker 03

  You deciding that you deserve a third of the piano raffle because you would like a piano?

• 23:21Speaker 04

  I can't believe this. I can't believe this. What, what are you do? This is why you just might as well be a weasel the whole time. Cause you're trying to do one generous thing. I actually thought.

• 23:30Speaker 03

  Not generous, you're paying a debt.

• 23:31Speaker 04

  No, Anthony, I was generous to Anthony. He gets 50%. I was gonna stand by that and let everyone go like, hey, Jess is such a nice guy. He gave 50% of his Bitcoin to Anthony.

• 23:42Speaker 03

  But my guess is Anthony only. That's his fee.

• 23:44Speaker 04

  My guess is only Anthony transferred half.

• 23:46Speaker 03

  Yeah, he keeps it.

• 23:48Speaker 04

  It was never a chance for you to give Anthony.

• 23:51Speaker 03

  He didn't give you the whole thing and go, even if you feel like paying my fee now that you're a rich man, would you please do so?

• 23:58Speaker 04

  That's true, that's true. So, yes, hey, you bring up a point because when I, when Jack rang me to tell me, he's like, so it's great, man. We've got it back to the, it's just a 50% fee and then hung up essentially, right? And I went, huh.

• 24:11Speaker 03

  That's curious.

• 24:13Speaker 04

  I can't believe this.

• 24:14Speaker 03

  That's not a fool to tell.

• 24:15Speaker 04

  I can't believe you just, I could have just kept hush about it.

• 24:19Speaker 03

  You could have. That would have been interesting. You would have had the big ask.

• 24:22Speaker 04

  So, yeah, but so what? Take his bins out for 15 grand? I'll do it.

• 24:27Speaker 03

  This is interesting.

• 24:28Speaker 04

  Yeah, I'll name my, I'll change Gordon's name if you want.

• 24:33Speaker 03

  Wow. When you quit a breakfast radio show, how times change.

• 24:38Speaker 02

  Jack, I'm not gonna ask you for the format.

• 24:40Speaker 04

  Love it.

• 24:41Speaker 02

  I know.

• 24:42Speaker 04

  No, they can't, they can't be big ask and money back.

• 24:45Speaker 02

  No.

• 24:45Speaker 03

  No.

• 24:46Speaker 02

  I'll meet probably.

• 24:47Speaker 04

  And don't you pretend you know what's going on. You have no idea about any of this.

• 24:51Speaker 03

  I know the ethics of it, Jack, and I know that you owed a man 0.18 of a Bitcoin. And now how you got, how you got that, you're giving him half of what you owed him. So in my book, in the fairness and the law of the universe, you have given him some cash. There's a cash value to what you owed him, and that's nice. If it was up to me, I would say thank you for this half of the money of you owed me. I will now downgrade the big ask to a medium ask.

• 25:18Speaker 02

  Yep. I think that's what we have to do.

• 25:21Speaker 03

  I think a medium ask is still owing.

• 25:23Speaker 04

  A medium ask is so broad. I don't, I don't know.

• 25:25Speaker 02

  I'll accept a little ask.

• 25:28Speaker 03

  I would say it's still, yeah, medium. It's nine, it's a, what, how much is this? $15,000.

• 25:34Speaker 02

  But if.

• 25:34Speaker 03

  $15,000 ask.

• 25:35Speaker 04

  Well, it's not, at the moment, it's just digital fake money, Bitcoin, cryptocurrency. It's not really anything.

• 25:41Speaker 02

  Same as any currency, it's actually recognised now. So yeah, it'd be 15 to 20,000 dollars.

• 25:45Speaker 03

  I didn't get anything out of this.

• 25:47Speaker 04

  I hope I don't lose your portion over the next week or so.

• 25:52Speaker 04

  I have been known to be slippery with the password.

• 25:58Speaker 04

  A very little ask, a very, very, very little ask.

• 26:02Speaker 02

  We'll come back to it. It's medium now.

• 26:03Speaker 03

  Medium's fair.

• 26:10Speaker 02

  Hey, I wouldn't say we're a powerful show, but we are the place where we can offer powerful things for people to become more powerful through power moves and they kept getting sent in.

• 26:24Speaker 02

  Let me kick it off.

• 26:25Speaker 03

  Go for it.

• 26:26Speaker 02

  It's from Matt. When someone gives you an opinion on a topic, simply reply with, I could see how the untrained eye would think that.

• 26:37Speaker 03

  Good. I like that one.

• 26:41Speaker 03

  This is from Monica.

• 26:44Speaker 03

  If you're hosting something at your place and someone asks if you need anything else, send them items from your shopping list, which are completely unrelated to the event. For example, shaving green Band-Aids, BB go etc. Just watch the pods. That's such a good idea. Pretty sure my brother-in-law did that to Zoe the other day. Going over just for a family lunch. I was away with our daughter and so Zoe and Sunny Ella were going over and she was like, can I bring anything over? And he goes, why not bring a bottle of tequila? For lunch, get there, no one's really drinking, like it's a lunch. It wasn't a big boozy affair. Yeah. Like no, he just wanted some tequila. So I was like, what if I bought a bottle of Reposado for a family lunch?

• 27:28Speaker 03

  Nice move, look. Um, from James, when at a dog park and your dog does a poo, find a dog owner nearby who isn't paying attention to their dog and say, hey mate, sorry, but your dog just did a poo over there.

• 27:46Speaker 03

  That would a hundred percent work, by the way. That's good. Yeah. And Beck's always on her phone, so if you see her out in the wilderness with Henrietta. Yep. Um, yeah, you could blame your dog's poo on that and our dog. Try your luck and do a human one and see if she'll clean that up.

• 28:02Speaker 03

  Yeah, it is yuck, Jack, fair enough. I also don't know why try your luck. No, just try, because it's try your luck, because if you said to her, hey, that your dog did a poo, you are trying your luck, because Henrietta, as much as you say she's tall, she is a small dog. And I think if she went over and saw a man's eyes poo, she might go, I don't think that came from my dog. That's why you try your luck, that's the fun of the game, but at the same time, Jack, yuck. I do encourage people to try their luck as they see Beck in the wild. And if she turns around and sees you with your pants down and you're holding on to a bench or something and you're squatting backwards, she'll go, oh, got you trying your luck.

• 28:41Speaker 03

  I heard the app. I heard the app.

• 28:44Speaker 03

  Well, I didn't even hear anything. I just happened to turn around at the wrong time for you. Bad luck. This is from Ruwan. When starting in a new company, during your welcome and intro message to the entire team, I assume this is if you're starting in a managerial position. Let them all know you will book one-on-one meetings with key staff members. Then don't book any meetings. This will have the staff wondering why they are not deemed a key member.

• 29:16Speaker 03

  From Micah in New Zealand, a simple and effective one, and he's been used against him a number of times. I think he says, I think it's best performed as part of a general sentence rather than a standalone comment.

• 29:30Speaker 02

  Okay, great.

• 29:30Speaker 03

  Simply refer to one's uniform as a costume. For example, in a conversation with a firefighter, does it take you long to put your costume on before you head out to a call?

• 29:42Speaker 02

  Brutal.

• 29:44Speaker 03

  Because generally, I mean, anyone that wears a uniform automatically, I can't think of anyone that wears a uniform that doesn't demand a higher level of respect.

• 29:52Speaker 02

  Yeah, they think they've got something, some authority to them.

• 29:55Speaker 03

  Well, they usually do. I mean, we're talking like, you know, Defence Force, firefighter, police, these are all.

• 29:59Speaker 02

  With due respect to Jack's dad, parking inspectors do wear a uniform.

• 30:03Speaker 03

  That's true.

• 30:04Speaker 02

  They would demand a little bit of respect. Park where you meant to park?

• 30:08Speaker 03

  No way. You know my policy, mate. I can't believe your dad is my mortal enemy. Very, I was gonna say Montague and Capulet, but then we're lovers. But still, the family situation remains the same. This is a specific one, and it comes in, it comes in the category of like, you know, unfortunately, and this is just, this is just biology, it's the way the world has always been, but tall, taller people probably have more opportunity to exert power moves on shorter people than vice versa. Talked about, you know, just popping a drink on the head or, you know, popping your arm up,

• 30:49Speaker 03

  popping it on someone's head, do that to my friend AJ a bit. There's really nothing you can do to come back from that.

• 30:54Speaker 02

  No.

• 30:55Speaker 03

  Uh, this is from Tim and he goes, look, this happened to me. So he's admitting this is the shorter guy in this situation. I was running with friends. There were four of us, two tall guys, about two meters each, that's tall. And two shorter guys, about one seventy five, were running on trails and there were some low branches at times. As runners, it's nice to warn other runners behind you of any low branches with a call of heads.

• 31:17Speaker 02

  Hmm.

• 31:18Speaker 03

  One of the taller runners, Drew, was in front and he would often call heads Danny.

• 31:26Speaker 03

  He only specifically mentioned the other tall runner and didn't mention us, Tim and Regan, reminding us they were just little boys.

• 31:46Speaker 02

  Hey, Bec during the week returned home triumphant that she's got um some new Apple AirPods. Oh, right. Yeah, they are very new. And look, in Bec's world, I have to write my name on mine because um she's the kind of person that this will probably last um for three or four weeks tops before she misplaces one or all pods. Hmm hmm. To the point where I bought her pods for for Christmas one year and then you how you can get them engraved, like all the little message on the podcast. Yep. I said Bec's to be lost within three or four weeks. Cool. Written on them and sure enough. Yep, Bec's till Feb. Bec's till Feb, yeah. Um, one thing that she said about them, which I think was crazy, is they've got Apple Translate now, so you can be overseas with the AirPods in.

• 32:31Speaker 02

  It's happened. And you listen to someone talking to you in their native tongue. And it picks up on Italian, for instance, but then speaks it back to you in your ears in your native tongue, English for us. Real. So you can now understand people. Now, obviously you'd have to give them some AirPods if you want to talk back to them or offer them one of yours out of your ear. You could split an ear. I mean, you could split an ear, but that is quite incredible. I can't believe we're there with technology. Yeah. We're there. I mean, Hitchhiker's Guide Across the Galaxy. Yeah, they have that. It's called a Babel fish. The little fish that you put in your ear. Yeah. Um, I thought that was amazing. Until I heard this morning that they've brought out AirPods 3 Plus,

• 33:13Speaker 02

  which just translates not just languages, but heaps of other interactions.

• 33:18Speaker 09

  Here at Apple, we are always innovating. Our recent AirPod Pro 3 introduced live translation, where as you listen, someone speaking in a different language is translated to your native tongue.

• 33:35Speaker 09

  Hello, welcome. Today, all the red carnations are 50% off. We are pleased to announce we've taken the translation even further with AirPod Pro 3 Plus. The Plus does not only translate languages, it translates many other interactions as well, like ones with your drunk mate at the pub.

• 34:00Speaker 03

  I don't have a big, big thing there. I don't, I just reckon, I reckon I'm not the best. Poor, poor mom, and this is salad. This is a...

• 34:08Speaker 00

  Hello, buddy. Please place $20 on the number 9 at Wentworth Park. I'll also have a pot of beer and a Palmer with chips, no salad.

• 34:16Speaker 02

  Ah, yeah, no worries, mate. Coming right up.

• 34:19Speaker 09

  An interaction with your partner at home.

• 34:22Speaker 02

  Oh, Bec, I forgot the game was on tonight. Do you mind if we watch that instead of a movie?

• 34:26Speaker 06

  Oh, yeah, that's totally fine. No worries.

• 34:29Speaker 00

  That is not fine, and you'll pay for this down the track.

• 34:32Speaker 02

  You know what? Let's watch that Blake Lively movie instead. I've been really keen on seeing that.

• 34:37Speaker 09

  Those long phone calls with your mom.

• 34:41Speaker 10

  Those buyer's advocates, I mean, that's what we noticed when we were looking for Cam. Or was it for you? No, it was for Cam. They were all buyer's advocates who were getting in first.

• 34:51Speaker 00

  None of this is important, but thanks, Mom.

• 34:54Speaker 02

  Thanks, Mum.

• 34:55Speaker 09

  But that's not all. The AirPod Pro 3 Plus can even translate your dog.

• 35:02Speaker 00

  Can you stop singing cutesy songs to me every single morning?

• 35:06Speaker 02

  Oh, I thought you liked that.

• 35:10Speaker 09

  Innovation and understanding. The AirPod Pro 3 Plus. Grab yours now at the Apple Store.

• 35:18Speaker 02

  Hello, teenage daughter. How are you today?

• 35:20Speaker 09

  Dad, I hate you!

• 35:23Speaker 00

  Dad, I hate you.

• 35:25Speaker 02

  Oh, okay. Yep, I get it.

• 35:33Speaker 03

  Do you guys have any products that you can't get everywhere? Like food products often where you go, oh, this is, this is a rare get.

• 35:44Speaker 02

  Oh, no, I don't, but Beck, Beck encounters this a lot because she always tells me that you can't get that everywhere. And it excites her. So.

• 35:52Speaker 03

  There's a certain brand of yogurt that I enjoy that is, pops up at some Woolworths.

• 35:58Speaker 02

  Right.

• 35:58Speaker 03

  But not all, which I can't figure out. Musk's, you know, the lifesaver musks?

• 36:05Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 36:05Speaker 03

  They're rare. I don't know if you guys, they're a big deal in our family. I, I run a different policy in my car as I runs in her car. I am a very good Uber in my car and I have a selection of snacks and treats. And we've had to pare it down to like one musk, one ring per trip. You know, like you can't, because they're a bit moreish and.

• 36:25Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 36:26Speaker 03

  They're so often you go to the servo. They have, and again, this is a niche world, but fruit pastilles are everywhere. No one wants fruit pastilles. I don't know why the geniuses at lifesavers think that that's like the, that's what we want. We want musks.

• 36:41Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 36:42Speaker 03

  You can't even really get regular lifesavers anymore. You know, the multicolored ones?

• 36:45Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 36:45Speaker 03

  Really, they're not, they're not around.

• 36:47Speaker 02

  That was, that's a good thing to phase out, wasn't it? They could see regular ones were more like a rock candy where they're the sort of see, see through ones.

• 36:54Speaker 03

  You give fruit tingles if you're lucky.

• 36:56Speaker 02

  Believe the brand survives so long, just, just a mouse because.

• 37:00Speaker 03

  It was the delivery method. It was the excitement. You didn't know what's, got to remember before the internet.

• 37:04Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 37:05Speaker 03

  That was enough dopamine for us to know, to not know what color was coming next in a lolly. That used to be enough dopamine. Now we need, we need three second TikToks that blow our minds. But before the clinkers, that was enough dopamine for the excitement of a clinker. We were happy with that level of dopamine.

• 37:24Speaker 02

  Can you remember, I can't remember the name of it, but there was one that didn't have a, had a filled in hole. So it wasn't a donut.

• 37:29Speaker 03

  That was fruit tingles.

• 37:31Speaker 02

  Fruit tingles.

• 37:32Speaker 03

  Are they still around?

• 37:33Speaker 02

  And are they? Are they still around?

• 37:34Speaker 03

  A hundred percent. Yeah, they're great.

• 37:35Speaker 02

  How do your kids feel about them? Cause to me, they were at the time, they're the category above all.

• 37:40Speaker 03

  Yep. Rue and I smashed a pack on the weekend. It was a special treat. We broke the one per run ring, one piece per drive rule and we had some fruit tingles. So musks for me is when I see them, I buy five packs. I get very, very excited and I load up because it's honestly one in six servos has musks. I get excited when I'm running low on fuel in an area I'm not often in because I go, okay, well, this gives me a chance to see if this happens to be one of the musk servos. Zoe has discovered something else. There is a small I G A that we're sometimes near. Zoe's got a bit of a penchant for artificial banana flavour. So like, you know, banana lollies, Barney bananas, that kind of thing, loves that particular flavour.

• 38:24Speaker 02

  Go into that or always had it?

• 38:25Speaker 03

  Cause I feel like.

• 38:25Speaker 03

  I guess you have it from childhood. Like if you love a lolly banana, some people, yeah, it's a bit of a polarising taste. But if you love a lolly banana, this is for you.

• 38:34Speaker 03

  There are some chocolate flavours you can't get at every, um, I don't know if you had deeply, you've dived in this, every supermarket doesn't stock all the cabri or all the Whittakers or whatever. I personally am partial, and again, not about me, but partial to a Whittaker's almond block.

• 38:49Speaker 02

  Really?

• 38:49Speaker 03

  Sometimes I've said to them, hey, where's your Whittaker's almond? And they'll be like, here it is. We're like, no, that's dark almond. I'm looking for almond. They go, no, I think this is almond. With all due respect, sir, I know what I'm talking about and that is dark almond. And then they go, I guess we don't have regular almond. And I go, okay, well, tell your boss to fix it because you got, you don't know how many people are coming up and down this aisle. And we don't want dark almond, we want, we want milk almond, one of the thirty three percent. Okay, no one's in the guts to speak up for it, but you're probably hemorrhaging customers because anyway. On the Whittakers thing, Zoe has found at this particular I G A, they have a banana flavour. Okay, so she's like, great, can we stop at that I G A? They stock the banana.

• 39:33Speaker 03

  I don't, I think, I'm not a fan of it, so I can't remember the exact flavour, but it's, you know, banana filling in a chocolate box. So imagine the excitement when at this I G A, not only will we be getting chocolate, but Zoe goes, we'll get some ice cream as well and we're going away for the weekend. Goes to the ice cream place, comes back. With, I think it's Peters or maybe, yeah, I think it's a Peters bucket of ice cream, like a tub, normal one litre tub, comes back and goes, look at what they've got. It's like Neapolitana or Neapolitana, but instead of chocolate, strawberry vanilla, it's banana split flavour, banana, choc chip and chocolate. So like banana cookies and chocolate. Yep.

• 40:19Speaker 03

  She's never seen it before. Okay. I think this is a new flavour. She's so excited. Hmm. Next supermarket shop, she goes to look for this banana split, three flavours in one. Can't find it at our regular supermarket. Goes to another supermarket in our area, can't find it. So it was a winner. It was a winner, it was delicious. It seems to be only at this I G A in the country, this regional I G A. You just use by date? Right. It always wasn't a product of nineteen eighty five. No, I'm looking at the branding. That was the strawberry and it's just gone bad over many years. I'm looking at the branding, right? It's not limited edition, it's not, it is a flavour that is produced. And again, think it's Peters could be wrong.

• 41:02Speaker 03

  I feel like this I G A in the country, this small regional I G A, it's got the banana chocolate, it's got the banana split ice cream flavour. I think it's some sort of banana portal. Really? Right, like that it just exists in the universe. It's this special place in the universe that has special access to banana flavoured things. Does it have, do it have masks? Yes.

• 41:26Speaker 03

  It's the perfect spot for you guys. I think we're gonna go and live there.

• 41:32Speaker 03

  We're gonna go and live in this small town because it's, they just get us, you know? They just get the Blake family, that's all we need. They understand our convictry needs. So I'm just saying, maybe this only applies to us, but when you find a supermarket that is, that's got your stuff. And it's like a portal, like this, it's, it is like it's from another world. And, and Zoe has bought three tubs from there that we've now taken back to our house and we've frozen. You can't, we've got no room in the freezer because she's hoarding these tubs because she's scared the portal will close. Any good science fiction fan knows, if you, if you're lucky enough to find a portal. Yeah. Use it, baby, because you don't know when portals close.

• 42:15Speaker 01

  Thanks for listening. The Hamish and Andy podcast will return next week. Catch up or contribute at hamishandandy.com.