2025 Ep 313 - The First Ever Segment Sleuth Apology

For the first time ever, Segment Sleuth has resulted in an apology! Bec has Andy questioning his level of manners while making a restaurant booking, and, on an unrelated note, she’s also got him wondering how everyone else washes their hands. Hamish confesses the struggles he's having abstaining from his online shopping habit. Plus, we squeeze in a round of Tell Us Someone and bring back an updated version of Friends Galore! 1. Segment Sleuth apology 2. Is Andy rude? 3. Tell us someone we haven’t thought of in a while 4. Friends galore 5. Gripzilla 6. The wash

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  Activate your internet because the Hamish and Andy podcast starts in three, two.

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  Sorry, it's still buffering. One.

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  Ahoy to my zenith, Hamish.

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  Thank you.

• 0:28Speaker 02

  I mean, whether you call me the zenith, the apex, the climax, the purpose of your whole life, I love these little nicknames that you come up with.

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  Cute. Um, ahoy to the observer.

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  Ahoy.

• 0:42Speaker 03

  This sounds like something in a board game I would play.

• 0:45Speaker 02

  Hmm.

• 0:45Speaker 03

  Characters in a board game.

• 0:46Speaker 02

  It also does sound a bit like the show. You just sit over there watching us.

• 0:50Speaker 03

  Sit over there watching the high point. Um, is this things you need to observe? I mean, I don't know.

• 0:58Speaker 02

  This, this, this might give it away, but I am the horizon.

• 1:03Speaker 03

  Oh, we had telescope, like a Hubble telescope or something.

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  We have the three main points of the horizon coordinate system. There is the horizon.

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  The high point.

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  And then the.

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  Yeah, okay.

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  And the observer is, uh.

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  The person looking at it.

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  Yeah.

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  And why, okay, is that a well-known coordinate system, the horizon coordinate system?

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  It's well enough to be put in front of me with a lot of details about it that I'm skimming through thinking it's probably a bit boring, but, um.

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  It was well enough, it was, hey, if it was good enough for ChatGPT to spit out when, when Lizzie said, hey, can you give me 20 groups of three things? Then it's good enough for us.

• 1:41Speaker 02

  Take the rest of the week off. Um, ahoy also to Ella. She went to hamishandandy.com, which you can go anytime and tell us what you've been up to by easily uploading a little bit of audio.

• 1:51Speaker 04

  Ahoy, boys. I'm in Peru at the moment and have been catching up on the podcast.

• 1:56Speaker 03

  Lovely.

• 1:56Speaker 04

  Last week I did a big trek to Machu Picchu and I got hit with altitude sickness and you guys really pulled me through. There's nothing better than listening to an hour of Croc Wars wrap up at 4,600 metres elevation.

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  Classic.

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  So thanks for that. And I've been practising my Spanish, so apologies for the pronunciation, but mucho gusto. Adios.

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  Nice.

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  Bonada.

• 2:16Speaker 02

  I think she must have been going back to the start, which is our preferred recommendation of intake of the pod.

• 2:23Speaker 03

  I was thinking, would we ever run a system where if you, I know this sounds a bit pyramid scheming, and it might be, but where if you can get a new listener to the podcast and you can get them to go through the whole back catalogue and catch up, you get yourself a coin.

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  Hard to place.

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  Yeah, it is hard to place, but there would be.

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  There's a comprehension test.

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  There'd be a comprehension test and we would also pressure test both parties to prove that they had done this.

• 2:50Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's a great system. If you get a friend on board.

• 2:56Speaker 03

  Yep. And they make them and they go back through all the eps.

• 2:59Speaker 02

  Yep. And then they've got a comprehension test of 10 questions.

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  Yep.

• 3:03Speaker 02

  How many do they have to get though? Because we can't even remember what we did.

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  No, I'm just trying to think what is going to stop two people that have already listened to all the eps, one to play possum and to pretend to play doggo and go, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'd never heard of you guys before. And then they just cheat to get a coin.

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  Submit all IP addresses and we see if you've ever downloaded the show.

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  Yep.

• 3:22Speaker 02

  That gets tricky. Yeah.

• 3:25Speaker 03

  Maybe we come, and also a coin is a lot. Do we go?

• 3:28Speaker 02

  We don't have a way to give away coins with special skills on the bench.

• 3:32Speaker 03

  What about with this? Why don't we go over the government mandated break? We'll give away a coin to the person that can recruit the most new listeners.

• 3:39Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 3:40Speaker 03

  You come to us with evidence that you've been doing the work of the pod missionaries. Going out and recruiting new converts. And if you're the key, I know this is not what the church does, but if you're the head missionary, you get a prize. Gech doesn't do that. I think they're pretty much just like anyone's great. We're not gonna, we're not gonna pit you against each other, but that's the, you know, we do that.

• 4:02Speaker 02

  Okay. I think, I think we still need a comprehension start because yeah.

• 4:06Speaker 03

  Yeah, but then I think.

• 4:07Speaker 02

  Now it sounds like we need like 50 comprehension tests.

• 4:09Speaker 03

  No, but then I think we've got people going, oh, look, I've got 100 new followers for you guys. That'll, we're really just, you know, we're going to the big fish to go, okay, great.

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  But how do we know?

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  But how do we know? What stops me sending that email tomorrow?

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  Hey, I hadn't planned this out, all right?

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  I, we, we get a haul and we get all the new followers to come and we pressure test them.

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  We'll have a think about it. I like it, but we'll jump into this for the meantime. This sounds like this, sounds like this, sounds like this. If this sounds like that, I'm your man. Andy Lee, Segment Sleuth. Sometimes it's Song of Sleuth, sometimes it's Segment Sleuth. Something happened in Segment Sleuth that has never, ever happened before. Where a few weeks ago, I pointed out that there was an article written by Nine Honey, which is a lifestyle article, talking about crumpets and how they're fluffier in Queensland and not so fluffy and more dense in the more southern states.

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  This is obviously, if we went through it, a direct replica of the findings Hamish made when he was blowing something wide open.

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  Brought to me by a loyal detective of the show.

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  Hey, the first time ever, Segment Sleuth has yielded and forced a public apology from Nine Honey.

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  They've apologised.

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  They have apologised in an open letter that they put and they put out as an article, as an apology. I've taken some of the excerpts from it, but this is what they had to say in relation to us calling them out on the pod.

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  Dear Hamish and Andy, I'd like to start off by recognising that you boys did do the crumpet taste test first. Yes, you may have been the first to take the debate to a public platform, but it's a battle that's lived in the mind of Queenslanders for years. Sure, maybe a bit of inspiration was taken listening to podcasts. During the hours long drive from Sydney to the Sunshine Coast. However, I do have one apology to make and it's directly to you, Hamish. Nine Honey recognises that Hamish Blake is the guy that does first impressions of crumpets and recognises the fluffiness without tasting.

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  We made a mere comparison that in no way matched up to the expertise of Mr Blake's professional observation.

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  I think in today's increasingly fractured society, we stand no chance of advancing as a unified society if we can't celebrate those that put their hand up and say, I was wrong and I want to learn and do better. So I say to Nine Honey, I unreservedly accept your apology.

• 6:53Speaker 02

  That's lovely. It is so lovely.

• 6:57Speaker 02

  Now, obviously, segments late, not long ago, I, um, I brought up Amy Poehler was talking about the Volkswagen Tiguan in an ad and did use the phrase must be nice. It did put her on a watch list for us of like, hey, we're not, we're not saying that they've taken anything from our show.

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  But we certainly, we don't have a monopoly on those three words being together. And we don't, as much as we like to think, uh, have a monopoly on all Tiguan promotional materials.

• 7:27Speaker 02

  Hmm. I got sent this so many times though. This is Amy Poehler and Kristen Wiig. Well, you guys can be the judge. Have a listen.

• 7:36Speaker 07

  Do you have that thing sometimes where you feel bad for inanimate objects? Yes, so do I. Hilarious. But I think that's like a thing.

• 7:43Speaker 02

  Do you have that thing where you feel bad for inanimate objects? Now, obviously, we're in, we're in our world. To their credit though, Kristen, we got a bloody good one. Have a listen.

• 7:52Speaker 07

  I remember so specifically, I was in the bathroom and you know how you have like, um, it's like a pill thing and maybe it's like, I don't know if it was like allergy pills and you pop them through. And there's like two, right? And I needed two, but there was one left over. And so I grabbed that one and then one from the other one. And my dad was like, why didn't you just get two from this one? I was like, well, that one's been by itself for so long. And I feel like he thought that was cute, but I wonder if he was like, oh no.

• 8:24Speaker 03

  Look, I'm gonna give him a pass. Yes, A hilarious and also B, Kristen brought it to the show. That wasn't Amy leading it. So I feel as if the guest brings it, what can you do?

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  What can you do?

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  Yeah, we're gonna go along with it. So

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  Yep.

• 8:36Speaker 03

  Another pass, another pass for me for Paula.

• 8:45Speaker 02

  Got in trouble with Beck the other day booking a restaurant. An area that you think you couldn't get in trouble with, but she was in the car, I called the restaurant and she didn't think that I was, I didn't say thank you at the end. I thought my To the restaurant? To the restaurant of the call. But I thought my tone insinuated thank you. So we get off the call and she's like, he was so rude. You didn't say thank you. And I said, oh, I think my tone made it definitely imply to thank you.

• 9:18Speaker 03

  What did you end with?

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  What did you say? Well, so I spent this morning trying to recreate the call and I've been calling Beck back and forth to play it to her to make sure that she's happy with my representation of the call. And then you guys will get to hear it and you can decide how it went.

• 9:34Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 9:34Speaker 02

  Okay. So this is me actually calling Beck to get sign off on the Accuracy. The accuracy of the call. And this happened early on.

• 9:45Speaker 02

  Hello? Hey, Becca. How are you? Hi, good. Sorry to bother you. Remember when we were booking dinner at Bistro Elba? And you said I was rude to the lady on the phone?

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  No.

• 10:02Speaker 02

  Well, we were driving along and I said, I've made the booking and you said I didn't say thank you at the end. And I thought that the tone implied thank you.

• 10:12Speaker 02

  I mean, probably, but. I just, I've just recreated the conversation. So I just wanted to check whether you're happy with this representation of what happened and then I can present to the guys. Okay. Well, I don't remember it, but sure, go for it. Okay.

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  Hello, Bistro Elba.

• 10:31Speaker 02

  Hey there, guys. It's Andy here. Beck and I were just wondering whether there's a chance we could come in for dinner tonight, eight o'clock.

• 10:39Speaker 00

  Yeah, that shouldn't be a problem. Yeah, we've got space for you. Just come on in.

• 10:44Speaker 02

  Amazing. See you then.

• 10:50Speaker 02

  That was very chirpy. I think that was the amount of chirp I had. I don't think so. I think that sounds like, yeah, that's too chirpy. Okay. You weren't that, you wouldn't have been that chirpy. If I down the chirp. Very chirpy. Okay, if I pull back the chirp a little bit, have you got the sign off that I can resist that?

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  I mean, yeah, sure, go for it. Okay, thanks, appreciate it. Sorry, I know you're busy. Bye. Bye.

• 11:18Speaker 02

  So I did down the chirp a bit. I sent it back.

• 11:21Speaker 03

  I mean, it always happens whenever you like reply, whenever you reenact something in front of your partner, you're always 50 to 80% better sounding than you were.

• 11:31Speaker 02

  Yeah, so I've, I really did it again. I've downed the chirp a bit, sent it back to Beck. She's like, yes, that's, that's, that's right. That's how it was. I think I'm unders now, just so you know. But just want you guys to now hear the call and tell me whether you think it's rude.

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  Hello, Bistro Alba.

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  Hey there, guys. Andy here. Just wondering whether Beck and I could come in for dinner tonight, maybe eight o'clock.

• 11:59Speaker 00

  Yeah, that shouldn't be a problem. Yeah, we've got space for you. Just come on in.

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  Great. We'll see you then.

• 12:08Speaker 03

  How was that? Did, did?

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  I think I'm on.

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  I mean, I could see you do that. Um, I could see you doing that if you're busy.

• 12:14Speaker 02

  Yeah, less chirpy. I actually felt like it wasn't implied. Thank you. First one, I would have said implied. Thank you. But surely great to see you then. You don't need to go, oh, thank you so much. No, no one's saying that, Andy.

• 12:29Speaker 03

  Say thanks because let's remember a booking is always a favor from the restaurant. It's not like you're paying. It's a favor to go, yeah, we'll hold a table for you.

• 12:40Speaker 02

  And then

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  Yeah, because you could no show and then ruin their night.

• 12:44Speaker 03

  If they held a table till eight o'clock and you just decided not to turn up, they can't do anything about that. So it is a favor. They're going, I trust you'll be there. And you go, thanks for your trust. If you had to spell it out.

• 12:54Speaker 02

  Okay, so you feel like I was rude.

• 12:56Speaker 03

  Well, it doesn't, it wouldn't kill you to say thanks.

• 12:59Speaker 02

  Hmm.

• 12:59Speaker 05

  Are you on a first name basis with them? Because you say Andy.

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  Yeah, me and Beck.

• 13:03Speaker 05

  Andy, me and Beck.

• 13:04Speaker 02

  We go there all the time.

• 13:05Speaker 05

  Okay. So even worse, because they're friends, they're friends of yours.

• 13:09Speaker 02

  Oh, gosh, I really don't think we should have to go, thank you so much.

• 13:16Speaker 03

  No one's asking for a gosh, which is asking, you're just saying thanks.

• 13:20Speaker 02

  Amazing, see you then.

• 13:22Speaker 05

  Yeah, you didn't sound like you're amazed.

• 13:24Speaker 02

  Well, I feel like I got pulled back.

• 13:26Speaker 03

  Do you think amazing saves you?

• 13:28Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 13:30Speaker 03

  Saying it's amazing is the same as a thank you.

• 13:33Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 13:34Speaker 05

  Like, I'm, I think a dulled amazing actually sounds more offensive. Like, amazing, amazing, see you there. It sounded like, oh.

• 13:41Speaker 02

  The problem has been here is I've been pulled back on chirp. I've been like, Beck drilled me down too far on chirp. I was much chirpier than that. I reckon she's right.

• 13:55Speaker 02

  Aim towards the back end of the year, this game becomes extremely difficult. Where a lot of people still write in wanting to roll the dice, but they have to try and tell us someone we haven't thought of in a while. We're about to jump into the game. There's a little space in the opener for one of us to yell at it as a person we haven't thought of in a while. Jack's elected to be the yeller today.

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  Now, remember, Jack, the rules are it has to be since the start of the year.

• 14:20Speaker 02

  Yes, I think I've got a great one. Okay. Do what?

• 14:27Speaker 02

  About jumping Jai Torima. Oh, good. Yeah.

• 14:30Speaker 03

  Yeah.

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  The part of my brain, the part of my brain that at pub trivia will, when the true answer is revealed, wants to go, yes, I was thinking that, but you weren't thinking that, you just know that in retrospect.

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  Yes.

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  You know what I mean?

• 14:53Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 14:53Speaker 03

  You know how your brain goes, I think, was I about to say that? And then you have to be honest with yourself and go, no, no, you just understood the answer. And you're confusing that with almost having had it.

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  Jack, how old are you now?

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  I'm thirty seven.

• 15:05Speaker 03

  Thirty seven, yeah. There's, there's now, you're not, we can't even turn to you for young things anymore. There's, there'd be, there's, anyone under thirty.

• 15:14Speaker 05

  Baby boomer.

• 15:16Speaker 03

  Anyone under thirty would know who jumping giant, jumping giant, Rima would is.

• 15:21Speaker 02

  What Olympics?

• 15:22Speaker 05

  He was, he was two thousand.

• 15:23Speaker 02

  Was it Sydney Olympic?

• 15:24Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 15:25Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 15:25Speaker 05

  And what made him exciting for me as a thirteen year old, twelve year old was that he, um, he won a silver medal for a long jump, but also ate McDonald's and smoked cigarettes and skateboarded. It was like, oh, look at this anti athlete.

• 15:40Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 15:40Speaker 05

  So cool.

• 15:41Speaker 02

  He still gets off the ground.

• 15:44Speaker 02

  Um, Hame, tell us, people send in hats, tell us what hats are up there. Excituation.

• 15:48Speaker 03

  We have got, uh, hat number one. It is a light burgundy. I like this hat. It's a bit, it's a dad cap. It's got the kind of the fabric buckle fastener at the back. Can be a bit fiddly to tighten on your head, but you'll give it a pass. It's a, just a nice cotton dad hat, embroidered logo.

• 16:06Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 16:06Speaker 03

  It's by a company called Ranger, the outdoor people.

• 16:09Speaker 02

  Hmm.

• 16:11Speaker 03

  I don't know who they are, and I think in the category of outdoor people, more people come to mind first, but Ranger, if you say you're the outdoor people, that there's only one way to get it out there, and that's to put it on a hat and have people know that there's a new outdoor people in town, or rather, out of town, in the wild.

• 16:26Speaker 02

  That would be my preferred as I look at them.

• 16:28Speaker 03

  That's just a nice kind of worn wine colored hat. Well, I, do you know who made this hat that I'm holding?

• 16:34Speaker 02

  What's this?

• 16:34Speaker 03

  Now, this is a stiffer, um, it's, I think, yeah, suspected as much. It's a normal snapback, but it's the AS color snapback.

• 16:41Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 16:42Speaker 03

  We've come across these before. It's a sturdy, decent hat, more of a cotton, I'll get to it, more of a cotton, um, what do they call that, like a drill cotton, like a thicker cotton? And who is the logo for?

• 16:56Speaker 02

  Kingston Crumb?

• 16:56Speaker 03

  Kingston Crumb, the biscuit themed band that played at CONCON last year.

• 17:00Speaker 02

  Sorry, that is my preferred hat.

• 17:02Speaker 03

  Who wouldn't want a Kingston Crumb hat? I hope no one goes through this, so I can have a Kingston Crumb hat. The boys did excellently last year at CONCON. They played, if you remember the schedule, they played during the biscuit hour before the first session of CONCON. And I think they played the interval too.

• 17:16Speaker 02

  In the interval as well.

• 17:17Speaker 03

  And they changed all their songs to be biscuit themed songs. So love that little nod to our favourite conference band. Then we come to, what can I have to say is a perplexing hat.

• 17:27Speaker 02

  This is a mess.

• 17:27Speaker 03

  This is a mess. It's, it's, it's not even a five panel cap, but it's kind of like that. It's kind of made of a shiny nylon.

• 17:36Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 17:37Speaker 03

  The, the brand, it's like a running, like a parachute, like a lightweight running hat. But then on the front, it's been like an iron transfer print. So it's a bit stiff on that material.

• 17:46Speaker 02

  It's gonna peel off.

• 17:48Speaker 03

  The company, I'm sure they do a great job of what they're known for.

• 17:51Speaker 02

  What's that?

• 17:52Speaker 03

  Answorth and Sons Professional Hedge Cutters.

• 17:55Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 17:56Speaker 03

  But then there's also the brand of the hat on the front of the hat, Evo hats, on the front of the hat with the hedge cutting.

• 18:02Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 18:03Speaker 03

  Cut some of the wordage off the hat would be my advice. You guys know about cutting hedges, but you've made and you've butchered the front of the hat.

• 18:11Speaker 02

  Shocker.

• 18:12Speaker 03

  It probably is, like I said, if I was gonna get a hedge cut, I'd go to these guys. If I was gonna get a hat, I wouldn't.

• 18:17Speaker 02

  Avoid them at all costs.

• 18:18Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 18:21Speaker 02

  First up, we've got Blake, I believe. Blake, ahoi to you. Ahoi fellas and the little boy, and congratulations, I am on the gigantic peak.

• 18:31Speaker 03

  We are trying to keep it behind us as much as we can.

• 18:34Speaker 02

  Blake, tell us something we haven't thought of for a while. I'm thinking Paulie Shaw. Nah, sorry mate. You thought of it. Yeah, yeah, I was explaining Encino Man to my nephews the other day.

• 18:45Speaker 03

  They'd be riding the hidden zone for that.

• 18:47Speaker 02

  And Beck didn't know what I was talking about, so I got the trailer up. Hasn't aged as, as well, the Encino Man. Really? Yeah, yeah.

• 18:58Speaker 03

  Because from what I remember, it was just charming documentary about a hunk that was frozen in a pool and Paulie Shaw excavated him and brought him back to life.

• 19:06Speaker 02

  Yeah, and then from what I could tell from the trailer, um, the Neanderthal Man was a bit handsy, like Neander.

• 19:13Speaker 03

  Well, they were, they were. I mean, it's an uncomfortable truth. I'm not saying we hold him up as an idol, but they were.

• 19:20Speaker 02

  So sorry Blake, unfortunate for you. Rachel, ahoi to you.

• 19:24Speaker 06

  Guys, how are you?

• 19:25Speaker 05

  Hello, Rich.

• 19:26Speaker 06

  Hi, my person's Aristotle.

• 19:29Speaker 03

  Aristotle? Great, great.

• 19:33Speaker 03

  Great one, one of the classics, one of the OG celebrities.

• 19:36Speaker 05

  Yeah, exactly.

• 19:37Speaker 02

  I haven't.

• 19:38Speaker 03

  Have we thought of Aristotle specifically? I mean, he was a great thinker.

• 19:42Speaker 02

  Was there, was there something specific he's famous?

• 19:44Speaker 03

  I want to say buoyancy, I want to say didn't. Or was that Archimedes?

• 19:49Speaker 02

  That was Archimedes, yeah.

• 19:50Speaker 06

  We were arguing over about heavy things falling faster and how they don't.

• 19:56Speaker 03

  Oh, yes, it was at him.

• 19:57Speaker 06

  One of the things he believed.

• 19:59Speaker 03

  Gotcha.

• 20:00Speaker 02

  Alright.

• 20:01Speaker 03

  So he was, so he, but I mean, Newton did gravity, that was sort of, he was famous for that. But was Aristotle sort of watching Newton? The warm up, was he the opening act?

• 20:11Speaker 02

  Galileo was in there as well.

• 20:12Speaker 03

  Yeah, he was planets and shit.

• 20:14Speaker 02

  Was he?

• 20:15Speaker 05

  But it's amazing Aristotle becomes a household name just for like heavier things don't.

• 20:21Speaker 03

  Oh, it's pretty good.

• 20:22Speaker 02

  It's alright.

• 20:24Speaker 03

  It's a good theory.

• 20:26Speaker 06

  He did a lot of other stuff.

• 20:27Speaker 03

  No, it's true, and this is exactly what it would have been like back in whatever century it was. I'm just gonna throw it out there, about, I don't know, six hundreds? In Greece or Italy, where Aristotle grew up, and it would have been exciting chat like this, as people thought about his ideas and debated them, Jack. So you've proved why he was a household name, he got you talking.

• 20:46Speaker 05

  You had to pick a side with Aristotle.

• 20:48Speaker 02

  But he's like, he's like a pop star who was a hunk, but, but you don't remember any of their songs. Like, he's obviously got a bigger name than actually.

• 20:58Speaker 03

  I think if you bought up some of his stuff.

• 21:00Speaker 02

  Well, we can't.

• 21:02Speaker 03

  I think it's like, like, it's sort of like bands where you go, yeah, I think I know some Billy Joel songs. And then you go through just how many hits he has. You go, oh my God, actually, this, yeah, this guy deserves.

• 21:13Speaker 02

  Yeah, well.

• 21:14Speaker 05

  Billy Joel is more like Newton in that sense, because we know a heap of Billy Joel hits.

• 21:19Speaker 03

  Yeah, but I think there's a lot of stuff that Aristotle would have discovered that you use every day, that you're not giving credit to him. Jack, you're not better than Aristotle.

• 21:30Speaker 03

  I think you're in. I think it's, I think we can't say we've thought of Aristotle for a while.

• 21:34Speaker 02

  For a long time. Rachel, what hat would you like?

• 21:36Speaker 03

  Who would you like?

• 21:37Speaker 02

  I would love the Kingston Crumbs. Smart.

• 21:41Speaker 03

  Well played, well done with Aristotle.

• 21:43Speaker 02

  Coming your way. Uh, thank you. Um, Marlon, ahoy to you.

• 21:47Speaker 03

  Ahoy, boys. Happy birthday, Andy.

• 21:49Speaker 02

  I don't celebrate them. What, uh, tell-

• 21:51Speaker 03

  Mate, you love it.

• 21:54Speaker 02

  Tell us something we haven't thought of in a while.

• 21:57Speaker 03

  Uh, I'm thinking Jeff Jan, the Australian chef, TV chef. Yeah, I think Huey and Gabrielle Gattai just soak up a lot of the attention there and Jeff Jan's is able to fly under the radar and not be thought about.

• 22:09Speaker 02

  You know who we're talking about, Jeff?

• 22:10Speaker 03

  I don't know, Jeff. I know Huey, obviously.

• 22:11Speaker 02

  In Huey Hewittson, there was kind of the big three. Uh, yeah.

• 22:15Speaker 03

  We're talking about late nineties.

• 22:17Speaker 02

  We're cooking TV chefs, yeah.

• 22:19Speaker 03

  Yeah. Um, before they became reality shows, you'd just watch them cook and that was enough. He's probably the most famous Jeff, Jack, in Australia. That's true.

• 22:27Speaker 02

  Probes to be honest.

• 22:28Speaker 03

  Bezos has got to have a point. But you're right, he's top three Jeff. Even for Australian chefs though, I'd say Jeff from the Wiggles.

• 22:35Speaker 02

  Yeah, Jeff Thompson, great fast bowler.

• 22:38Speaker 03

  Yeah, look, no, he probably isn't the most famous Jeff, but I tell you what, I don't think we've thought of him this year. And it does count because we do know who you're talking about. So do you want the Ranger, the Outdoor People hat or the?

• 22:49Speaker 02

  The mess.

• 22:50Speaker 03

  The mess of the hedge cutting hat. Mate, I have to go for the Ranger hat.

• 22:54Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 22:54Speaker 03

  You'll enjoy it. Do you know who Ranger the Outdoor People are? Love them. Absolutely love them.

• 23:01Speaker 03

  I'd be so proud to have them. All the things. Have them on the hat now. Yeah, no indoor stuff.

• 23:06Speaker 02

  Uh, Marlon, thank you. Andy, wrap this up for us. Tell us something we haven't thought of in a while.

• 23:11Speaker 03

  Uh, I'm hoping you haven't thought of Dizzy Rascal in a while. Ooh, did a listen to Fix Up Look Sharp on the weekend.

• 23:19Speaker 02

  Oh, wow.

• 23:20Speaker 03

  What a- we would think it, we're talking about, because my son does drums at school. So, and I always get a bit carried away. Definitely now that we're talking about it, living out my own fantasies through him. But I play him songs because every year they have to do a drum recital at school. So I play him and literally next week he's playing In the Air Tonight by Phil Collins. Because I told him, mate, you do this song, you'll bring the house down.

• 23:44Speaker 03

  So I was playing him some songs that for next year have like an iconic beat. So, sorry mate.

• 23:50Speaker 02

  Sorry Andy, but look, to be honest, you've avoided, you've avoided the mess of a hat. It was a lose lose situation for you.

• 23:55Speaker 03

  Yep. And you can only, and here's me trying to make, you know, my son following my drumming footsteps. And you look at Answorth and Sons professional hedge cutters. And you just wonder if maybe Answorth's hearing this and going, did I force the sons into hedge cutting? Are they cutting the edges of their own volition or was it my dreams? So unfortunately no hat for you, but some good reflection for us all. That's all right. My wife's making me throw out my hats anyway, so that works.

• 24:22Speaker 03

  Sorry, we couldn't help you with one.

• 24:29Speaker 02

  Hame Alert listener Nov from the UK has written in saying, a long time listener, first time writer. You can hit us at hamishshoney.com. Love the pod. Can I request bringing back one of my all time favourite segments of yours?

• 24:44Speaker 02

  And please bring it back on a regular basis. We can't promise that, but Friends galore.

• 24:49Speaker 03

  Yeah, we can play one of Friends galore.

• 24:50Speaker 02

  Yes. Essentially, this is a game where Jack is the best quiz master. And he comes in and gives us two liked personalities or liked companies. And we have to guess who has more friends on Facebook. You on Facebook still?

• 25:06Speaker 05

  I've updated to Instagram as per the emails request. He said that he was just more, where Facebook was the dominating force back five or 10 years ago when we used to play.

• 25:15Speaker 03

  This is now, I guess it's followers galore, isn't it? Because I mean, Friends was the, was the Facebook thing, but that's all right. We can, we can adapt.

• 25:22Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 25:23Speaker 03

  But wasn't it, didn't you do stuff, Jack, from my memory? It's been a while since we've played. But it would be like, I don't know, like Tom Hanks or.

• 25:34Speaker 03

  Um, lamb shanks or something.

• 25:37Speaker 05

  And I have, I've managed to link them. I mean, it is a bit of a stretch with some of them, but they're linked.

• 25:43Speaker 03

  Oh, I remember the stretching.

• 25:46Speaker 02

  Well, great. We haven't deferred from what people love about the game. Nov, if, it's a unique about this game is Hamish, you and I play together. We will battle Nov. And if we are successful in picking who's got more friends or followers, best two out of three. We will not send them anything, but we'll send Nov a token of no value. If triumph, let's jump in.

• 26:25Speaker 05

  All right.

• 26:25Speaker 02

  Who's ready to play? Harmonica comes in, so your nerves start coming in.

• 26:29Speaker 03

  I was gonna say, I was gonna say it's that when you hear that, is that a harmonica, is it? Cause I was gonna say, when you hear that soothing weird saxophone.

• 26:35Speaker 02

  It's probably saxophone, actually, probably is.

• 26:38Speaker 03

  Your call, Jack.

• 26:39Speaker 05

  I think, I think it might just be a synth.

• 26:41Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's a synth, yeah. Yeah, anyway. Okay, we've done instruments galore, let's do followers galore.

• 26:48Speaker 05

  Okay, so we're going off Instagram now, so no longer friends, but who has more followers? Out of Timothy Chalamet and Callaway Golf.

• 26:59Speaker 03

  Oh, good. It's, I think Shal- Shamalet, I'd go Shamalet.

• 27:05Speaker 02

  Yeah, absolutely. I think it's, I don't even think it's close.

• 27:11Speaker 02

  And what are you gonna put Timothy Shama- Shama- Shamalet?

• 27:13Speaker 05

  Chalamet.

• 27:14Speaker 02

  Chalamet.

• 27:15Speaker 03

  Chalamet, I'd put him at seven million.

• 27:18Speaker 02

  I'm gonna put him at 13.5 and I think Callaway is at around about five.

• 27:24Speaker 05

  Yeah, you're correct. He killed him. 19.7 million to Callaway's 2.1 million.

• 27:30Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 27:31Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 27:31Speaker 02

  Nah, well, that's an easy one for us, but. Bad luck, Nov. Next one, Jack.

• 27:36Speaker 05

  Who has more followers, Husey or the Mad Hueys?

• 27:42Speaker 03

  Really good one. I think it's gonna be the Mad Hueys.

• 27:45Speaker 02

  Explain to us the Mad Hueys.

• 27:46Speaker 05

  Mad Hueys, I think they just do YouTube videos about fishing and surfing and being mad.

• 27:51Speaker 03

  Just being mad dogs. Just being, and a lot of merch. You see a lot of Mad Huey stuff around and I like, I like what they stand for.

• 27:57Speaker 02

  They're the ones that have a great time. Shewy at Mick Fadings Golf Day.

• 27:59Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 28:00Speaker 03

  I've only just got rid of the temporary tattoo that was Shewy's for Hueys.

• 28:05Speaker 02

  Okay, yeah.

• 28:06Speaker 03

  From Mick Fadings Golf Day. So you know, you know you're in for it when you go anywhere near the orbit of the Hueys. You're gonna get dragged behind a speedboat or you're gonna have to do a shewy or... But you know, that's what they, that's what they, they live for and I support it.

• 28:21Speaker 02

  Australia's most beloved comedian. He's been around for a long time.

• 28:24Speaker 03

  Yeah, but the Mad Hueys, like their, their world is like YouTube and social media.

• 28:30Speaker 02

  They're doing more exciting stuff than Husey.

• 28:32Speaker 03

  No offence to Husey, but I think he'd have to admit they're more high-octane than him. And I think that's what gets eyeballs.

• 28:39Speaker 05

  He's mainly just complaining about something that's happened.

• 28:42Speaker 03

  Or standing in front of a comedy poster, but someone's drawing dick and balls on his head.

• 28:45Speaker 02

  So are we going, mate?

• 28:47Speaker 03

  I'm going, but I've still got tickets to the Wollongong show. But in the words of Husey, and I think he'd appreciate this, no, we love him and he's a good guy.

• 28:56Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 28:56Speaker 03

  Which is Husey's trick after making jokes, that's all I'm just saying now.

• 29:00Speaker 02

  Yeah, we would love him. So you think Mad Hueys...

• 29:02Speaker 03

  I do love Husey and I, but I do think Mad Hueys have got him on that.

• 29:06Speaker 02

  I'll go with Hamer this one.

• 29:07Speaker 03

  You've got it.

• 29:09Speaker 02

  Watch the score there, Jack.

• 29:11Speaker 05

  407,000 for Hueys versus Husey's 287,000 followers.

• 29:17Speaker 02

  Alright, so tight. Oh, tighter. Okay, let's just play the last one for fun.

• 29:23Speaker 05

  Who has more followers? Amy Shark or the Cronulla Sharks?

• 29:31Speaker 02

  For those who don't know, the Cronulla Sharks are an NRL team, rugby league in Australia.

• 29:36Speaker 03

  Amy Shark is a women's netball team from, oh, I must say, I thought that was the Darwin Netball team.

• 29:42Speaker 02

  Has a seat that doesn't rotate because she's on Australian Idol, opposed to The Voice that do have rotating seats. Locks down seats.

• 29:51Speaker 03

  Hmm. Gotta think about all the seat content. Would or wouldn't do showing us the underneath of the idol seat to show how locked down it is.

• 30:00Speaker 02

  I'm going Amy.

• 30:01Speaker 03

  I think Amy, yeah.

• 30:03Speaker 02

  Only because naturally if you're a sporting team with there's heaps of other teams in there. So say if there's, I don't know, 20 teams in your league.

• 30:13Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 30:13Speaker 02

  You're always going to be one, you're going to dividing the whole, the whole following by.

• 30:17Speaker 03

  Pretty rare to follow a team that's not yours on Instagram.

• 30:20Speaker 02

  Very rare.

• 30:20Speaker 05

  And I just like to be across all the teams, see what's going on at the clubs.

• 30:24Speaker 02

  And I don't think people are as fierce about.

• 30:27Speaker 03

  But you wouldn't go, yeah, well, I already also like a different female superstar.

• 30:32Speaker 02

  I quite like CS.

• 30:33Speaker 03

  I like Dua Lipa, which I'm gonna follow. So I didn't get to multiply to go, okay, well, I like them both. Yeah, no, I think Amy's got it.

• 30:40Speaker 05

  Yeah, you got it. Well done.

• 30:41Speaker 03

  God, look at us going, don't we? Working a bloody social media agency.

• 30:46Speaker 05

  Amy's 245,000 versus the Cronulla Sharks 173,000.

• 30:52Speaker 02

  Still close.

• 30:53Speaker 03

  Both nothing to sneeze at.

• 30:54Speaker 02

  Uh, and also.

• 30:54Speaker 03

  And Huzi can know that he's easily got the Cronulla Sharks.

• 30:58Speaker 02

  Yep, he does. Yep.

• 30:59Speaker 05

  And Nov has nothing.

• 31:00Speaker 03

  Ah, yes, we didn't. I'm so sorry. No, but hopefully you enjoyed the game coming back.

• 31:12Speaker 03

  Ah, boys, we've been, we've been down this path before, but I'm just gonna give you a little update of where I'm at. Um, I'm currently

• 31:21Speaker 03

  trying to resist buying things again for, for a month. Um.

• 31:25Speaker 02

  I mean, online, I've seen you just see something and buy it like it was just tying up your two shoelaces.

• 31:30Speaker 03

  Well, it just knows me. I mean, the algorithm is, we've talked about it before. I am just at, at its absolute mercy. It's like those old, someone shouldn't, I mean, if I could knew how to make memes, Jack, I know you dabbled in the day.

• 31:43Speaker 02

  Someone actually suggested that now Jack, Jack doesn't have a job. Will he go back to memes?

• 31:48Speaker 03

  Doing memes. Here's one for you, Jack.

• 31:49Speaker 05

  There's a lot of money in memes.

• 31:51Speaker 03

  Yeah. Well, back in the, do you remember like in the, I don't know, nineties or whatever, like old wrestling, I feel like in those like, like mayhem tag team moments, sometimes it was like eight guys versus one dude.

• 32:02Speaker 05

  Royal Rumble.

• 32:03Speaker 03

  Yeah. And that's what it feels like for me. That's just like Instagram ads and I'm just one dude.

• 32:08Speaker 05

  How could you possibly?

• 32:09Speaker 03

  Four of them are holding me. Two of them are like kicking me. They're all picking me up to like spin me around and throw me off the ropes and stuff. So. That's mad, but I'm like, no, no. Well, if I'm aware of it, I'm going to resist it. And the thing that is trying to get me so hard at the moment is a thing called the Gripzilla, like a grip training thing, right?

• 32:30Speaker 02

  Why do you need grip?

• 32:31Speaker 03

  I don't know. Well, we just, people, so I think someone.

• 32:34Speaker 02

  Is it for like sailors that like that do winding or is it?

• 32:37Speaker 03

  Just general grip, mate. Just in life, you just need to have a strong grip. I remember reading on, seeing online.

• 32:42Speaker 02

  You're slipping off doors?

• 32:45Speaker 03

  Just generally considered if you've got a strong grip, you're a stronger, you're just better at life. You're stronger. You're ready.

• 32:53Speaker 03

  Just people, man. People want grip strength in life. All right?

• 32:57Speaker 02

  Right, okay.

• 32:58Speaker 03

  So that's what, the ad is absolutely ridiculous because it shows a normal man's forearm. And then it just cuts to what is clearly a different guy, this massive like veiny forearm going, I can't believe how simple this thing is. I think because I was interested for a moment and I clicked on the ad and then I went, what am I doing? Clicked out of it. They're like, we got it. Right? We know. That's coming up every couple of, that will be my barometer for this year. Do I eventually cave and buy the Gripzilla?

• 33:26Speaker 02

  We'll check back in.

• 33:28Speaker 03

  Can I?

• 33:28Speaker 02

  Note that, guys. We'll check that out.

• 33:30Speaker 03

  Here's the thing that I almost bought the other day and I tried to buy it because I was just, I wasn't even thinking. And something went wrong with like the Apple Pay or whatever I was trying to use at the end. And, and I managed to have a moment of clarity to be like, oh my God, what am I doing? Like, and I bailed during the purchase, but because I'd gone all the way through to it being in my shopping cart. And it was only because like it was doing processing payment, processing payment. It just didn't go through for some reason. They just gave me enough of a moment to go, I gotta get out of here.

• 33:59Speaker 02

  Like in any scene where a car or something goes into water and the person seems knocked out and they float all the way down.

• 34:06Speaker 03

  And just came to.

• 34:07Speaker 02

  Came to and you could get to the surface.

• 34:09Speaker 03

  Yeah, I shouldn't be here. I have to go. And I got out and it was for a lock picking device.

• 34:21Speaker 03

  And you know what? Do you know why I just like so effortlessly went through to the checkout? Because the ad was, it's faster than keys.

• 34:32Speaker 02

  It's not.

• 34:34Speaker 03

  And it wasn't till I was at the checkout that I stopped for a second to evaluate that sentence. They are just saying any old shit to me now. And I am on the stream on the algorithm where they're like, this guy will believe anything. And so it's like, it looks like a leatherman. And you just, you just put it in the door and squeeze it. But it's like, it's faster than keys, faster than keys. Like you.

• 34:56Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 34:56Speaker 03

  But don't worry about keys anymore. Just pick every lock you come across. And I've always had a vague interest in learning the skill of lock.

• 35:03Speaker 02

  Yeah. Yep.

• 35:04Speaker 03

  And I've done it before. Even during COVID, I bought a lock picking set. And I couldn't be bothered reading the instructions. And I kind of gave up on it. It was like a clear padlock, teaching you how to pick.

• 35:14Speaker 02

  Annoyingly, now I'm interested in the device.

• 35:16Speaker 03

  Right.

• 35:17Speaker 02

  To see if it is faster than keys. Well, it's not gonna be.

• 35:20Speaker 03

  I can, I can forward it to you because the company, so they know, because you put your email address in or whatever, and it's auto filled by the time you get to the checkout. You know how you get those emails saying, hey, your cart, you still have a cart here? So it knows it had me.

• 35:34Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 35:35Speaker 03

  And they cannot believe I've left. Me, of all the, the easiest guy on the internet to get. It's driving them wild. I'm getting two or three emails a day from them going, your cart's here.

• 35:48Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 35:49Speaker 03

  We're gonna give you this offer. Did you know about these other things that we've got? We have a box, a motorized box cutter you're gonna love. And he's just hitting me with all this stuff. And I'm, I'm, I will hold out. I'll hold out on the lock picking set. But it's almost like they're driven by shame. I think because all the companies know I'm the easiest guy to beat.

• 36:07Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah.

• 36:08Speaker 03

  Unlike in Mario Brothers, the very first little brown monster that comes along and you jump on his head and bounce on it. What are they called, Jack?

• 36:14Speaker 02

  The, the Goombas?

• 36:15Speaker 03

  Goombas, yeah. It's like if, like, all the other, all the other brands have got me so many times.

• 36:21Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 36:22Speaker 03

  And it's like, and they're just like, you can't even beat, you can't get this guy past level one. Like, mate, we've, we've sold him so many things. We've sold him the world's best torch nine times. We've sold him the world's best shorts. Like, how can you not even get in with, he got to the checkout and he didn't buy it. Like, they are humiliated.

• 36:39Speaker 02

  And you think you'll hold out?

• 36:41Speaker 03

  I want to hold out.

• 36:44Speaker 05

  Three, three times a day, you have to have that strength of will.

• 36:48Speaker 03

  Yeah, I know.

• 36:48Speaker 05

  Good luck.

• 36:49Speaker 03

  I know. And I just, I was like, that's why I came to this place. Cause I'm like, I think I have to publicly say.

• 36:53Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 36:54Speaker 03

  I will hold out because I know it's not easier than keys. I know it shouldn't be illegal. Cause that was the other thing they say. They always get me with, this should be illegal. And I go, oh, I'm listening. If this should be illegal, I better get it before the government catches up on this.

• 37:09Speaker 02

  This is a safe spot for you to, and, and look, if there's anyone else out there that is a similar situation to Hain that's holding out, if they want to come and confess.

• 37:17Speaker 05

  Have accountability is a good idea.

• 37:19Speaker 02

  Come, come to hainstanny.com.

• 37:20Speaker 03

  Or if you've bought that lockpicking set, just please let us know. It's not easier than keys. We know it's not easier than keys, but I just want to hear it from someone before I find out for myself.

• 37:36Speaker 02

  How are you guys washing your hands?

• 37:38Speaker 03

  I'm pretty good at it.

• 37:39Speaker 02

  You're pretty good at it?

• 37:40Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 37:40Speaker 05

  Well, I mean, I guess it's a hangover from COVID. I was gonna say the same thing. I got better at COVID during COVID.

• 37:46Speaker 03

  I got really good and now I wash it a lot. I mean, before COVID, I would, I thought hand sanitizer all the way. And then I think we all just got so sick of sanitizer. You're like, you know what? Soap has been the gold standard since bloody the civil war. They had problems, obviously. They were doing everything right back then, but soap, soap's always been good. And I, and, and I think it's, I think it's still good enough today.

• 38:11Speaker 02

  Hmm. So I discovered over the weekend that Beck and I wash our hands very differently.

• 38:17Speaker 03

  Is it amount of soap used? Do you do the toothpaste distribution?

• 38:21Speaker 02

  I, she keeps her hands underneath the water for the whole time.

• 38:27Speaker 03

  No, you've got to teach the kids as well. Don't do that.

• 38:30Speaker 02

  No, you don't do that.

• 38:31Speaker 03

  Wash the soap off.

• 38:31Speaker 05

  You get a bit of water.

• 38:32Speaker 03

  You get your hands wet.

• 38:33Speaker 05

  Thank you.

• 38:34Speaker 02

  Great. I'm feeling great about this.

• 38:35Speaker 03

  You get your hands wet. You pull away, you put a 20 cent piece amount or less probably for you tic tac size, whatever. And then. Get a good lather.

• 38:43Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 38:44Speaker 03

  Lather, the lather's the secret because all soap is, if you wanna get really sciencey about it.

• 38:50Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 38:51Speaker 03

  Water is wet.

• 38:52Speaker 02

  Hmm.

• 38:52Speaker 03

  Soap makes water wetter. So soap reduces the surface tension of the water. So it means it can get into the cracks better. That's what soap does.

• 39:00Speaker 02

  And you need a bubble to grab the dust.

• 39:01Speaker 03

  You need bubble, you need froth, you need froth through that. If you just put your hands straight back under the water, you just.

• 39:06Speaker 02

  You wash it with soap.

• 39:07Speaker 03

  It's like when I, when they share with the kids and, you know, when they're little, you're like, all right, wash your hair. You put the shampoo in their head and they just rinse it straight.

• 39:13Speaker 02

  Yeah, they don't even work it in.

• 39:14Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 39:16Speaker 02

  So this is the thing. So then.

• 39:18Speaker 03

  You put all the ingredients in the soup and take it straight off. You have to cook the soup.

• 39:22Speaker 02

  I said, she said to me, we're in this, we're at an Airbnb.

• 39:25Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 39:26Speaker 02

  And the tap was coming down quite tight to the basin.

• 39:30Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 39:30Speaker 02

  And she said, well, gosh, the tap's quite tight to the basin. And a friend who also was staying with, he said, yeah, I noticed that.

• 39:37Speaker 03

  Having a three-way wash.

• 39:38Speaker 02

  He, he said, I noticed that. And I said, I didn't notice that. And so I went back in just to see, and I washed my hands again, and there was no problems. And I said, no, I think the tap's fine. They're like, it doesn't allow you to sit underneath the tap while you're washing your hands. And I, I said, you don't need to, but both of the, I, I felt like the idiot.

• 39:59Speaker 03

  Also, almost the sink was too small. They were like, you get it, like it's spraying water out or?

• 40:03Speaker 02

  Well, no, it's just like they would have liked, they keep their hands underneath. When you're doing that bit where you rub your hands.

• 40:08Speaker 03

  So it's just an awkward, it was at an awkward height where they had to.

• 40:10Speaker 02

  It was awkwardly tight to the back wall.

• 40:12Speaker 03

  Quite simply, this is solved by all the, every government, I mean, you'd think it would be redundant, but every, didn't every government bring out a poster on how to wash your hands? Every state government, wherever you went, it was like, here's how you wash your hands.

• 40:24Speaker 02

  Yeah, wet.

• 40:25Speaker 03

  Take them out.

• 40:26Speaker 02

  Take them out.

• 40:27Speaker 03

  Lather them up. They usually put a ridiculous time on like 30 seconds.

• 40:29Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah. Nah, just get a lather.

• 40:31Speaker 03

  It's like when people.

• 40:32Speaker 02

  Had a song, I don't know if it was staying alive or I was getting it mixed up with doing CPR, but they said like sing, sing staying alive while you're washing your hands.

• 40:39Speaker 03

  Wasn't there something like sing it twice?

• 40:41Speaker 02

  Yeah, well, whatever it is too long.

• 40:44Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 40:44Speaker 02

  And you're like, well, they just want us to go longer than what we were going. So when I go longer than what I was going.

• 40:48Speaker 03

  You know, it should be like, lather up your hands to the point where you're noticing you're going over the same area twice.

• 40:53Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 40:54Speaker 03

  Cause during the song, you're like, well, where else do I rub? I mean, I've done, my hands are only so big.

• 40:59Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah. Oh, I'm glad you sorted that out, but I also think we've probably done a community service.

• 41:03Speaker 03

  Speaking of hands, I think the last bit here. On this, like, you know, the echo of Covid. If you are in a pinch for hand sanitizing and because you get a bit more thinking about it with kids here because they're just at school, like, we're always like, straight inside the house, wash your hands. Yep. The easiest way to not get sick. But we're like, I was, I got used to the automatic sanitizers around like buildings and stuff. If you couldn't wash your hands, see me at airports, still shopping centres. We've got some here in the building. That I occasionally go to, but I reckon 90% of the automatic sanitizers you see in public places now just haven't been refilled since Covid. No way. Like, you go to them, so often put your hand under and the, the machine's like,

• 41:47Speaker 03

  hello? Oh, my God, no sanitizer. Oh, I haven't heard that name for a long time. You said never get anything out. Oh, six way out. Oh, sorry, maybe next week.