Giggling about geosexuals, gray hair, and invisible ink

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• 0:00Hannah Berner?

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• 0:43Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, remember when I told you how excited I was about Lululemon dropping their fall collection on September 8? Well, the collection is finally here and I just got my hands on a few pieces. And let's just say, these will be in my rotation on repeat. I got the Groove Yoga Bra and the High Rise Matching Short. They're so buttery soft. They have laser cut pocket openings for optional and removable cups, which I love that because sometimes I don't want to have a bra insert when I'm working out, but sometimes I do. Performance never compromises style at Lululemon. I love their vintage-inspired styles and everything comes in such an assortment of colors. So if you don't want to stick to black, which is my traditional go-to, you can explore other colors. Like, I love a burgundy workout set.

• 1:26Paige DeSorbo?

  New styles from Lululemon's fall collection are here. Popular colors go fast, so be on the lookout for those drops. And if something doesn't work out for you, free returns always. That's lululemon.com, lululemon.com.

• 1:38Hannah Berner?

  I was thinking about how women have so many little things we have to do when we're getting home that you have to be aware of.

• 1:45Paige DeSorbo?

  Like, so many people have my location.

• 1:47Hannah Berner?

  And you have to share your ETA, you have to check the route, you have to text everyone I'm home.

• 1:51Paige DeSorbo?

  And if your friend, like, doesn't text you, "Oh, you got home," you're calling the FBI.

• 1:55Hannah Berner?

  Yep, yep. And we joke about it because it's so normal to us, but you're constantly paying attention. And even when you're exhausted and just want to get home, your brain still has to be on. You're like, is this guy going the right route? Am I in the right place? Who's around me? What's happening?

• 2:09Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, there's truly no clocking out of your safety.

• 2:12Hannah Berner?

  And that's why riding in a Waymo feels different. It's an autonomous ride with an empty driver's seat. So once you get in, you have this private space that's actually just yours.

• 2:20Paige DeSorbo?

  And you know, I love alone time and I truly feel like it's such a luxury in a Waymo.

• 2:25Hannah Berner?

  Especially after being social. Like, I love everyone, but like...

• 2:28Paige DeSorbo?

  Please, nobody speak to me.

• 2:29Hannah Berner?

  Like, give me 20 minutes. I want music, the right temperature. There's no compromising. And you can customize the ride, put on your own music, answer texts you ignored all night, stare out the window. You actually have a minute where you're not thinking about everyone else.

• 2:43Paige DeSorbo?

  And that's the thing. It's not even necessarily about doing something. Sometimes it's just, you want to sit there and not speak.

• 2:50Hannah Berner?

  And put your guard down for a second and feel safe.

• 2:53Paige DeSorbo?

  Which truly women deserve.

• 2:55Hannah Berner?

  We deserve to disassociate safely for 20 minutes.

• 2:58Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I mean, put that on a t-shirt, for real.

• 3:01Hannah Berner?

  And obviously, safety is a huge part of why that feeling matters. Knowing Waymo's safer, there's something refreshing in having that space where you can just be yourself and let Waymo handle the driving.

• 3:10Paige DeSorbo?

  And we spend enough of our lives being on.

• 3:13Hannah Berner?

  Exactly.

• 3:14Paige DeSorbo?

  We don't need to be on in the car.

• 3:16Hannah Berner?

  Getting around shouldn't require so much mental energy. And if this sounds like your ideal way to get around too, download the Waymo app and use code GIGLY to get 20% off your next two rides. You could check out the full terms in the app.

• 3:28Paige DeSorbo?

  We love a discount.

• 3:29Hannah Berner?

  And if Waymo isn't in your city yet, head to waymo.com/gigly to sign up and help bring Waymo to you.

• 3:37Speaker 02

  Sup, gigglers? Carrie, fix the wifi. Manifest that shirt. We can't be managed.

• 3:47Speaker 02

  I mean, the day just got away from me.

• 3:52Hannah Berner?

  What are you giggling about?

• 3:53Paige DeSorbo?

  Just, just everything, our lives, just everything, all, everything.

• 3:57Hannah Berner?

  Can you tell them what happened this morning?

• 4:00Paige DeSorbo?

  So I'm just minding my own business. I'm about to start the pod.

• 4:04Hannah Berner?

  I don't say anything, I don't do anything.

• 4:05Paige DeSorbo?

  I don't do anything. And this dump truck drives down the street and literally...

• 4:15Hannah Berner?

  Suddenly, this huge dump truck starts backing up into me.

• 4:21Paige DeSorbo?

  So stupid, but so funny.

• 4:25Paige DeSorbo?

  So this dump truck literally drives down the street, takes out every wire in its path. Like was way too big to be like driving down the street and the wires were kind of like hanging low.

• 4:37Hannah Berner?

  But doesn't it do that same route every day?

• 4:39Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I don't, I have no idea. I don't know.

• 4:42Hannah Berner?

  The men have lost it.

• 4:44Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, it's like, guys, it's the one thing you do. It's like logistics of the trash. Are you kidding? Are you kidding? No, it was actually two men. I looked. It was a man in the front seat driving and the passenger.

• 4:57Hannah Berner?

  Oh, so two of them.

• 4:58Paige DeSorbo?

  So the wires are like broken and on the street and I'm like, my first incident is like, we're all gonna blow up. Like you can't drive over wires. What if they're like live and like there's electricity running through them, whatever.

• 5:14Hannah Berner?

  Like when you're cutting a bomb, like wires.

• 5:16Paige DeSorbo?

  Basically.

• 5:17Hannah Berner?

  Like if you get the blue, it could all go south.

• 5:19Paige DeSorbo?

  So call Verizon. Verizon's like, sorry, can't come till tomorrow. I'm like, no, unacceptable. Call the police.

• 5:31Hannah Berner?

  I said, can I speak to your manager, the president?

• 5:35Paige DeSorbo?

  I literally said to Verizon, oh, bet, I'm calling your boss.

• 5:40Hannah Berner?

  They go, what's the emergency?

• 5:43Hannah Berner?

  Men were being dumb outside.

• 5:45Paige DeSorbo?

  The police were like, no, that absolutely is an emergency. Like we'll send someone over to like, move them out of the way, make sure it's not dangerous. And then like Verizon has to come. So Verizon came, like within the next like couple of hours, but I was like, this is ridiculous.

• 6:02Hannah Berner?

  We were supposed to record the pod and I'm literally about to set up. And Paige is like, hey, a dump truck just broke my wifi. And I go, at least get creative with it. I'm appreciative that you made up a creative story. Normally it's a UTI.

• 6:16Paige DeSorbo?

  Hannah did say, I knew you were gonna think I was lying, so I did take a video. I just didn't send it because there was nothing of interest. But Hannah did say I could be one of the nominees for Women of STEM of the Week if I could figure out how to hotspot. But I couldn't. But alas, here we are. The wifi is restored. I could not figure out that hotspot.

• 6:37Hannah Berner?

  But you still got runner up of Women of STEM of the Week, which I'm really proud of you for. It was a hard day.

• 6:44Paige DeSorbo?

  Actually, I feel like you're my women of the week. Because

• 6:49Hannah Berner?

  Why?

• 6:50Paige DeSorbo?

  The amount of outfits you put together in one weekend, honey.

• 6:53Hannah Berner?

  No, no, no.

• 6:54Paige DeSorbo?

  You must be so tired.

• 6:56Hannah Berner?

  The emotional stress of that, like, it's like I was in an outfit stressed about how I was gonna do the next outfit. It's just like a never-ending outfit nightmare.

• 7:05Paige DeSorbo?

  Welcome to my life.

• 7:06Hannah Berner?

  This is your life.

• 7:07Paige DeSorbo?

  And then you posted it and you're like, I'm really proud of this. And they're like, huh, think again.

• 7:12Hannah Berner?

  I said, pick your favorite if you're a girl's girl.

• 7:18Hannah Berner?

  And if you're not a girl's girl, keep it to yourself. But I do have to say, me at an event.

• 7:25Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 7:25Hannah Berner?

  I don't know what happens to me, but it was chaos.

• 7:29Paige DeSorbo?

  Mm-hmm.

• 7:29Hannah Berner?

  Sports Illustrated, Times Square, vibes are high, and I'm making new friends. I actually walked in. It felt like the first day of school where like, you don't know anyone and it could go great and it could go horrible. I made so many new friends this weekend, like I literally was. No, they're all blonde, don't worry. Phew. Xandra. We love you, Xandra. Well, Alona Mar is an athlete, so that doesn't count. Like, you guys are not.

• 7:56Paige DeSorbo?

  And Hannah did call me and was like, I love Brooks Nader. I knew you were gonna love her because talk about an aura.

• 8:04Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, we immediately just started joking and she's, she's everything I wanted her to be.

• 8:09Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 8:09Hannah Berner?

  Cause some people are so different off-camera. Like, some people shut off, off-camera. So I was like making friends, like at the end of the weekend, people were like asking for my number and like, like my DIA. And I was like, am I like a new person? Cause now I have like four new friends and that third, in your 30s, it doesn't happen. Like, I'm in a whole new social situation now. Like, I have to cancel plans, like.

• 8:31Paige DeSorbo?

  Right.

• 8:31Hannah Berner?

  I don't even know how to keep up with all my friends now. How do people keep up with a big friend group?

• 8:36Paige DeSorbo?

  It's really hard in your 30s.

• 8:38Hannah Berner?

  I'm stressed. Um, but during the party, I'm like holding my jacket and my purse. And they're like, you have to go to the red carpet. And I was like, what do I do with my jacket and my purse? Lucho, our king, our Italian prince.

• 8:53Paige DeSorbo?

  Life is literally just asking yourself that question.

• 8:57Hannah Berner?

  Where I'm gonna put my jacket in my purse.

• 8:58Paige DeSorbo?

  Am I bringing a jacket? Where is my purse? Is it, maybe I left it in this purse? It could be in another purse.

• 9:04Hannah Berner?

  Now, we're at one hotel.

• 9:05Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 9:06Hannah Berner?

  So I'm like, I can handle this. And Lucho's like, I'll take your jacket. I head down, I'm also chewing gum somehow. I don't know how this happened. I'm about to go on the carpet. Shannon Ford is there and she's like, "You can't go on the carpet chewing gum like that." And I was like, "Oh no." And then she's a new mom. She puts her hand out. And I go,

• 9:27Hannah Berner?

  "Put it in her hand."

• 9:28Paige DeSorbo?

  It's as if like, when you become a mom, you sign a contract of like, all the things you now have to do. And like, disposing of gum is one of them.

• 9:35Hannah Berner?

  And she saw me and her mom alerts went out. She goes, "That girl need help." So I get on the carpet, everything's fun. Oh, I gave my purse to the person you give your purse to. And I'm off the carpet, I'm ready to party. So I get into the party, I'm having fun. And I realize, "Don't have my coat over my purse." But I'm not stressed. I'm like, we're all having fun here. So I'm like, going around, just being like, "Anyone see your jacket or purse?" Okay, anyway, making friends.

• 10:02Paige DeSorbo?

  This is my literal... I would have... I, first of all, I hate losing things because I don't lose things. And also, talk about feeling bad for an inanimate object. When I lose like, a piece of clothing, I'm like, and they're never coming home with me again.

• 10:23Hannah Berner?

  They don't know where mama is.

• 10:25Paige DeSorbo?

  And they think that I didn't like them and I was getting rid of them. I wasn't. I wasn't getting rid of you.

• 10:30Hannah Berner?

  So I'm like, honestly, whoever has my purse is probably more responsible than I am. So I'm like, "Hold my purse." But then it started to go like, a little too long. I thought someone eventually would come up to me and be like, "Hand me up your purse." Now, mind you, in my head, I'm like, "Where the fuck's my purse?" And I go, "Lucho." Lucho clearly has my jacket and my purse. No idea where Lucho is, no idea. I find someone who has Grace's number, who has Lucho's number. So I'm actually at this point kinda stressing.

• 10:58Paige DeSorbo?

  You don't have Lucho's number?

• 11:00Hannah Berner?

  I don't have my phone, babe. I don't have my purse. I'm literally raw dogging the Sports Illustrated party.

• 11:06Paige DeSorbo?

  It's 1994 at the Sports Illustrated party for Hannah.

• 11:11Hannah Berner?

  I'm just hopping into photos, smiling, no idea what time it is. Also meanwhile, not to get into it, but my mom was coming and I didn't leave her a key for the apartment. So my mom is left for dead.

• 11:22Paige DeSorbo?

  Perfect.

• 11:22Hannah Berner?

  Left for dead. No, I have no phone and everyone's just taking photos, being like, "How you look so pretty." I'm like, "I know."

• 11:28Paige DeSorbo?

  Everyone's just like showing their tits and like...

• 11:31Hannah Berner?

  So finally we see Lucho. And he's all smiley and he's like, "I have your coat." And I was like, "And where's my purse?" And he's like, "You never gave me your purse." And I was like, "Lucho, I swear to God if you stole my purse." No, I'm just kidding. I could tell. He had no idea where the purse was. So now I have my coat, which is like 50% good, so I'm still dancing.

• 11:50Paige DeSorbo?

  You didn't go up to anyone that worked there?

• 11:53Hannah Berner?

  This is my thing. I'm not ruining people's nights yet. Like it was too early in the night for me to be like, "I lost my purse." Like everyone was still like sober. We just got to the club. It was literally a club. So I'm scared. Like half an hour goes by. The head of Sports Illustrated, MJ, the editor in chief, walks into the party, holding my purse.

• 12:20Hannah Berner?

  And I go up to her, I go, "It's crazy. That's my purse." And she's like, "This purse has no identifying information. There's no wallet." There's, because it was like, a stylist gave me a purse. I didn't put a key.

• 12:34Paige DeSorbo?

  Wow.

• 12:35Hannah Berner?

  I didn't put a wallet. I didn't put an ID. I'm like, "I don't need ID." I have a Charlotte Tilbury lip liner and my phone and I think a pad for my greasy skin. So she's like, "We had no idea who this could be."

• 12:50Paige DeSorbo?

  Hannah, Hannah, not, not more than three days ago, did I text Josephine for something? And I was like, "You have to pay with your card." And she goes, "I don't have my wallet." I go, "But you're out in the world. You didn't bring a wallet." And she goes, "No, I just have like Apple Pay."

• 13:08Hannah Berner?

  I'm the type B friend that's literally dancing and I'm like, "I have a flight in an hour."

• 13:12Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I was, I literally go, "That's the most Gen Z thing I've ever heard, to leave the house without your wallet or your keys."

• 13:20Hannah Berner?

  It's something like weirdly rebellious or like empowering where I'm like, I'm not gonna fucking bring it. And it's always like the one day they're like, you can't do anything unless you have your ID right now. And I'm like, alien.

• 13:30Paige DeSorbo?

  No.

• 13:31Hannah Berner?

  I've ruined nights because I don't have my ID.

• 13:33Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, yeah, one, that is like a very crucial thing to going out at night. And two, what if something happens to you and they need to know who you, like, I always am like, I'm Jane Doe. How will they know that it's me?

• 13:47Hannah Berner?

  My phone is being blown up by my mom because my mom's like, hey, there's no key at the apartment. And I'm like, thank you so much, MJ. I appreciate it. I'm just so in the moment of how good this party is, I forgot where all my stuff was. And she's like, everyone got their purse back. You clearly gave it to a girl and just never went to get it back. And I was like, such a valid point. And we've learned and grown from this. Next day, lost my phone. Molly Sims randomly is like, whose phone is this? And I said, thank you, Molly Sims. That's my phone. This is the thing, because it's Wiltshire and it's full of women, I'm like, I'm not losing anything here.

• 14:23Paige DeSorbo?

  Right.

• 14:27Hannah Berner?

  Like, I was surrounded by very successful, smart, cool women. I could leave a newborn baby in the middle of the table and it would have had a better life than me.

• 14:40Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, Hannah?

• 14:42Hannah Berner?

  We were in a closed, like, ballroom full of cool women. I'm like, I literally was flinging my, I lost my sunglasses, someone else found it.

• 14:50Paige DeSorbo?

  Yep.

• 14:51Hannah Berner?

  Then typical me, I had to, I literally had to fly out. And everyone's like, you gotta go, you gotta go. I'm like, yeah, my flight's at eight. And I'm like, don't worry, it's LaGuardia. Like, it's really close. Don't worry. I'm chatting. Everyone's like, you gotta go, you're gonna miss your flight. Get in the car, realize, it's fully JFK. Like, where did I even get the idea that it was LaGuardia? And I'm just telling everyone, like, it takes 20 minutes for me to get LaGuardia. Don't worry, but it's not JFK. Look at my phone, fully JFK.

• 15:17Paige DeSorbo?

  How, how long did you have to get there?

• 15:19Hannah Berner?

  I got there 30 minutes before boarding, but I really wanted McDonald's. And there was a very long line, but in my head, I said, it's fast food. This is what they do. It's fast food. It was the hot spot, like, everyone just wanted their McDonald's.

• 15:34Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 15:34Hannah Berner?

  And there was a huge line, and I'm just, I waited till the very last minute for my McDonald's to make it even more dramatic. Ran with a Quarter Pounder.

• 15:45Paige DeSorbo?

  I, wait, I was just gonna say, since you, like, banned McDonald's on this last tour, and, like, it almost ruined the world tour. Um, what is your order these days?

• 15:57Hannah Berner?

  I just like a cheeseburger, no mustard. So McDonald's put mustard, and it's like, this isn't a fucking charcuterie plate, like, give me a burger.

• 16:06Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, see, I like the mustard.

• 16:07Hannah Berner?

  See, I like, I like mayo. If I'm really hungry, I add, like, six to 10 chicken nuggets.

• 16:14Paige DeSorbo?

  You have to have two different meats.

• 16:17Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 16:17Paige DeSorbo?

  You know, you can't.

• 16:18Hannah Berner?

  Yeah. Sorry, I want my protein. I want my protein. But, um, yeah, I, I had a crazy Sports Illustrated weekend. All the girls are awesome.

• 16:29Paige DeSorbo?

  That's really nice. It was giving, like, Hannah joined a sorority, and she didn't tell any of us, and she's just like, she said she was going to one school, she actually transferred one to a different one, she has all new friends.

• 16:41Hannah Berner?

  Look, I kept going around being like, I feel like I'm in a sorority, and I feel like all the girls had been in a sorority, and they're like, okay, and I'm like, I've never been in a sorority before.

• 16:50Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, it was like you feeling female friendship.

• 16:52Hannah Berner?

  I literally, like, was the biggest girls' girl this weekend. But you know, you see it on Instagram, and you're like, yeah, they're all, like, pretending to be friends, or like, they're all friends, but if I was part of the group, I don't know if I would mesh. It was so fun, like, um, Alona Mar and I were pretending we were Alex Earl's bodyguards. We actually, we thought of an incredible business idea. So you know when people have bodyguards, it's like, really obvious, and also ruins the vibe. Like, I don't care how much fun you're having in Coachella, why is that, like, man who's clearly sweating, because he's in a full tuxedo, standing in the middle of Coachella? So I was like, we need undercover bodyguards that are just really strong girls, and when a guy tries to talk to the girl, you just go in front, you go,

• 17:36Hannah Berner?

  why are you talking to her? That's my friend, does she want to talk to you? And you just, like, cause a scene, and the other girl's innocent, she's like, doesn't even know. So I think we should just get a bunch of female rugby players to be bodyguards from now on.

• 17:52Paige DeSorbo?

  I think it's an extremely smart idea.

• 17:55Hannah Berner?

  Because, like, I feel like it's... I don't, what are the men gonna do? Like, fight a crazy girl who comes running up? No, let the rugby girls handle it.

• 18:05Paige DeSorbo?

  And there's nothing men dislike more? I feel like when a girl...

• 18:10Hannah Berner?

  Takes their job?

• 18:13Paige DeSorbo?

  Yep. I was gonna say, just like talks.

• 18:18Paige DeSorbo?

  A girl's friend like comes up and starts talking, they're like, no. You know?

• 18:22Hannah Berner?

  Everyone has that friend that will not let anyone talk to anyone, in the best way. Like, she's like, I'll handle him.

• 18:29Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 18:30Hannah Berner?

  I'll handle him. Excuse me, nobody wants you here. Nobody wants, do you notice, get out. And you're just like, sorry.

• 18:39Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, every group has that one girl that you're like, oh, you do it. Um, did you see the paparazzi picture of Kylie Jenner, Timothee Chalamet, Kendall Jenner, and Jacob Elordi?

• 18:50Hannah Berner?

  No, I just saw the one of Jacob Elordi and Kendall, Kendall chugging a full bottle of rosé.

• 18:56Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, I didn't see that one.

• 18:57Hannah Berner?

  She's like holding a full bottle of rosé.

• 19:01Paige DeSorbo?

  This was like all four of them in like an SUV, like leaving somewhere, and it was...

• 19:08Paige DeSorbo?

  Actually, Steph texted it to me, and like the Instagram or whatever, and she was like, I feel like you would just love this. And I love when A-list celebrities do A-list celebrity things with each other. And I love like an old-school paparazzi pic, like just left the club, they're like a little tipsy. It just looked like fun. It looked like they were having wholesome fun.

• 19:35Hannah Berner?

  I love that for them, and I love a double date. And I wish I could hear the texts afterwards of like what they thought of each other's mans, did the mans get along?

• 19:45Paige DeSorbo?

  Do you think they're like, oh my god, we used to date like rappers and athletes, and now we're conquering? The arts.

• 19:53Hannah Berner?

  The artist men.

• 19:55Paige DeSorbo?

  The actors. I wonder if like Timothy and Jacob Elordi are.

• 19:59Hannah Berner?

  Competitive with each other?

• 20:00Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, like, do you think that there's like a underlying, like, I would see that, I would think that Timothy thinks that he's more of a serious actor.

• 20:11Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, but I also feel like, boys are so dumb. Like, boys are just like, they probably just like that they're both boys.

• 20:20Paige DeSorbo?

  Society doesn't make them.

• 20:22Hannah Berner?

  Compete against each other.

• 20:23Paige DeSorbo?

  Compete against each other. They can actually both win a bunch of awards.

• 20:25Hannah Berner?

  There's enough room for everyone. Where if they both were dating girl actresses, it would be like, who's my successful? I mean, remember the Jonas Brothers? They literally took apart all the women in that group.

• 20:37Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. Oh, my God. Remember when Joe Jonas was married to Sophie Turner? That feels like a real fever dream.

• 20:43Hannah Berner?

  There's a new thing that Kesha announced called geosexual. Are you familiar with this?

• 20:48Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm not.

• 20:49Hannah Berner?

  It's when you only have sex in certain countries. So she says she only has sex when she's in Italy.

• 20:56Hannah Berner?

  Obsessed. Obsessed. It's like, it's like only eating bread in Italy, she only has sex.

• 21:02Paige DeSorbo?

  The most iconic thing I've ever heard.

• 21:05Hannah Berner?

  I know.

• 21:08Hannah Berner?

  I know.

• 21:10Paige DeSorbo?

  I feel like I want to be that, but it's like, my, my place is my bed.

• 21:18Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, I love that so much for her. Was she being serious?

• 21:21Hannah Berner?

  I don't know. It was just a quote, but I feel like that's so something you do in your 30s. You're like, at this point.

• 21:26Paige DeSorbo?

  At this, yeah, at this rate, I'm just gonna pick which country.

• 21:30Hannah Berner?

  At this juncture, you gotta catch me. I couldn't think of one place in Italy, in Rome.

• 21:36Paige DeSorbo?

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• 23:48Paige DeSorbo?

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• 28:14Paige DeSorbo?

  Of all your outfits this weekend, which one was your favorite?

• 28:17Hannah Berner?

  Great question.

• 28:18Paige DeSorbo?

  And I would also like to say what I think your favorite was.

• 28:23Hannah Berner?

  So surprisingly, my favorite was the green cape, Michael Kors.

• 28:29Paige DeSorbo?

  Wow.

• 28:30Hannah Berner?

  Because I almost didn't even try it on. I was like, I need to show my waist, or I feel like I look pregnant. Like, I have to show. I have to, I like things that are kind of tight and stretchy. And I tried it on and I said, I look like an interesting aunt. I look like a wealthy aunt coming in between her European vacations. And I just felt like I, I do think the weekend, there was a lot of range. I wanted each outfit to be like a different personality.

• 29:00Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, you, I think you gave it. You gave a different vibe. And that's important because then you have to switch up your hair. And we all know how stressed you get about switching up your hair.

• 29:10Hannah Berner?

  I think I know what your favorite outfit was.

• 29:13Paige DeSorbo?

  What was it?

• 29:13Hannah Berner?

  Do you want to say it?

• 29:14Paige DeSorbo?

  My favorite was the Sunday turquoise set, or like light blue set.

• 29:20Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 29:21Paige DeSorbo?

  I love that. I thought your favorite was going to be the black sheer, because I really like that too.

• 29:25Hannah Berner?

  My thing is the black sheer, like a black dress. I've seen it a million times. I loved it. I loved it, but it's, I want, I want, I like surprising people. I want to come up with new shit. The problem with that's, the suit, the set, suit set, tight.

• 29:40Paige DeSorbo?

  And you ripped it?

• 29:42Hannah Berner?

  Oh, yeah, I forgot.

• 29:44Paige DeSorbo?

  Because right when I DM'd you and I said, this is my favorite outfit, I then naturally went to the next slide. And it was you having a sweatshirt tied around your waist that you'd ripped the skirt.

• 29:53Hannah Berner?

  The good news is that she was good all day. The problem with like SUV cars is that you have to like step up into them. And when I first wanted to step in it, I was in the very beginning of the day, I was like, oh, I could totally rip the back of it. And at the end of the day, you know, when you're just done, you're like, I'm ready. I gotta go get my flight in LaGuardia, apparently. I very quickly jumped in the Uber and just felt the whole backside go vrrrr. And thankfully, Sports Illustrated gave me a free sweatshirt.

• 30:25Paige DeSorbo?

  And that's one way to get merch.

• 30:27Hannah Berner?

  So I wrapped it around and it was good, but um, yeah, that was, that was unfortunate, but it was by the seam. It could easily be fixed.

• 30:35Paige DeSorbo?

  Um, I went to a wedding this weekend.

• 30:38Hannah Berner?

  How was it?

• 30:39Paige DeSorbo?

  It was nice. I, look.

• 30:51Paige DeSorbo?

  It's not me if I don't have one problem or another, like something is going to be itching me, irritating me, squeezing me, like I'm gonna have an issue and look, first of all, look, me knowing I'm going to a wedding and like going to like a social event, that's like a long period of time, I'm gonna pop a beta because I just am.

• 31:20Paige DeSorbo?

  Like, you know what? There's no shame in it. Like, I'm just, I'm gonna pop a beta. So like, I pop one, I feel fine. Great, get to the wedding. I'm like, you know what? I'm having like a nice time at this wedding. Also, this wedding was so Italian in so many subtle ways that I felt just like comfortable. So I'm like feeling myself. I really liked my dress. I'm like, I'm having a good time. Their cocktail hour.

• 31:44Hannah Berner?

  Pejudo and melon.

• 31:45Paige DeSorbo?

  Cocktail hour was phenomenal. I'm just like really, I'm like, I'm gonna have a couple cocktails.

• 31:49Hannah Berner?

  Sinatra's playing.

• 31:51Paige DeSorbo?

  They had a Frank Sinatra impersonate.

• 31:58Hannah Berner?

  And if the Italians aren't consistent.

• 32:02Paige DeSorbo?

  It was just like good vibes. We had a good table, like everyone's having a good time.

• 32:07Hannah Berner?

  Cash and envelopes.

• 32:09Paige DeSorbo?

  So many cash and envelopes. I literally was like, I didn't.

• 32:13Hannah Berner?

  Know there was cash anymore.

• 32:14Paige DeSorbo?

  I was like, I've only seen this in movies, guys. Like, I've never seen this before. Cookie table, tremendous.

• 32:21Hannah Berner?

  To the ceiling.

• 32:23Paige DeSorbo?

  So like halfway through the wedding, I'm like, my dress is like tight. Like, I knew it was like tight and the top was like corseted. Okay, I was wearing this like black Helsa, like midi dress and the top was like very structured. And then it like cinched at my waist like corset and then it went like structured down. But like when I was trying it on and getting it fitted, like it was fine.

• 32:44Hannah Berner?

  In the morning.

• 32:46Paige DeSorbo?

  So I'm sitting there for a couple hours. I'm three raviolis deep.

• 32:56Hannah Berner?

  And this was sage and butter, baby.

• 33:01Hannah Berner?

  The ricotta was ricotta-ing.

• 33:06Paige DeSorbo?

  And I'm like, whoa, my stomach is like really hurting.

• 33:11Paige DeSorbo?

  I really like, I do, and I said to Joe, I was like, look, this is like your friends and like, I'm down to have a fun time. Like, we can go home whenever you want. And he was like, totally, like, whatever. So it's like 11:30 and I'm like, I gotta get the fuck out.

• 33:29Hannah Berner?

  You're a completely different person by the end of the party than the beginning of the party.

• 33:32Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm like, I physically am counting my breaths because I'm losing air.

• 33:38Hannah Berner?

  Do you ever just sit in the bathroom stall? I do that at weddings.

• 33:41Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, I got to the point where I was like unzip my dress, like just unzip my dress. I don't care. Like, so I unzip my dress and then I looked at him and I said, I actually have to go home. So I actually called the car now and we left at midnight and I couldn't have been more happy to, I took the dress truly off in the car. I couldn't do it.

• 34:04Hannah Berner?

  I was thinking about the bathroom at weddings. If you just sit in the bathroom stall at weddings, that's where all the gossip is happening. Like everyone has an opinion. Everyone's talking shit about someone in the family. It's crazy.

• 34:17Paige DeSorbo?

  Totally.

• 34:18Hannah Berner?

  That's the podcast I want to listen to.

• 34:20Paige DeSorbo?

  No, the, I didn't sit in there a long time, but I did sit there for a second and contemplate like, what if I went out into the parking lot?

• 34:32Paige DeSorbo?

  At one point I looked at Joe and I was like, I might just go sit in the car.

• 34:36Hannah Berner?

  Well, when you're not, when you're just a friend of the wedding, you're like, nobody's gonna, nobody's gonna know.

• 34:42Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm like, they're having a full reunion of like their second grade best friend and I'm like, I'm a side character here. No one would know if I slipped out.

• 34:53Hannah Berner?

  A hundred percent. There's also a video of a girl doing the worm that everyone's sending to me at a wedding where like, you know, the bridesmaid and groom, bridesgroom, whatever.

• 35:04Paige DeSorbo?

  Maid of honor.

• 35:06Hannah Berner?

  Just the brides, just the bridesman.

• 35:08Paige DeSorbo?

  Bridesmaids.

• 35:09Hannah Berner?

  Bridesmaids. And who's the, what's the male version?

• 35:11Paige DeSorbo?

  Groomsman.

• 35:11Hannah Berner?

  Groomsman. Okay.

• 35:15Paige DeSorbo?

  We got there.

• 35:16Hannah Berner?

  You're bridesmaids.

• 35:16Paige DeSorbo?

  But we got there, yeah.

• 35:18Hannah Berner?

  There's the bridesgals and the bridesmaids and they're walking in and they're doing a little dance and then one girl, she turns and she goes through the worm and I said, "A woman by my own heart."

• 35:29Paige DeSorbo?

  Mm-hmm.

• 35:30Hannah Berner?

  As she does the worm, the back of her dress pops, like, literally rips up.

• 35:35Paige DeSorbo?

  Were they wearing short dresses?

• 35:37Hannah Berner?

  No, but it was like, you know how the back of the dress has like a slit?

• 35:41Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 35:42Hannah Berner?

  So she starts doing the worm, the slit goes all the way up, she's fully wearing a thong and she's facing the entire wedding. And when she starts doing it, it pops and everyone exclaims. They all go, "Whoa!" and she probably in her head is like, "I'm killing it with this worm right now."

• 35:59Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, my god.

• 36:00Hannah Berner?

  The video's like going viral, but I guess the girl thinks it's funny.

• 36:03Paige DeSorbo?

  No, how did that not come across my desk?

• 36:04Hannah Berner?

  Everyone's like, "She's a hero." Like, she's, she's amazing. So, shout out to her. She's our Woman of STEM of the Week.

• 36:12Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, honestly, I give credit to anyone who, in their head, is like, "Yeah, I'm gonna stop and do the worm right now" because the confidence, I would choke.

• 36:23Hannah Berner?

  And I've done it in many a dress.

• 36:24Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. You've done it on national television. You've done it at, you've done it at Radio City Music Hall.

• 36:31Hannah Berner?

  The only difference is I, I don't wear thongs, so I have flashed the audience many a time. You're so sick of it, you're like, "Not again." But they just see some Hanes underwear, it's nothing too exciting.

• 36:41Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 36:41Hannah Berner?

  Nothing too exciting. Um, actually, you're also Woman of STEM of the Week runner-up twice this week because Paige sent me her first-ever message in invisible ink. I thought there was a murder. I was like, "This has never happened before." I don't even respond to it, I go, "Who taught you how to do that?"

• 37:01Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, do you wanna know? I don't send you text messages with invisible ink because you're the only person that, like, and I'm saying it with my chest. And like, let them see it.

• 37:12Hannah Berner?

  Also, you go, "Who's Hannah gonna tell?"

• 37:16Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm like

• 37:16Hannah Berner?

  Who's that gonna tell?

• 37:17Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm like, she has no other friends that she's talking to this about. But you were at Sports Illustrated Weekend and I, like, I'm trying to be a girl's girl and so like, I'm not gonna just like give gossip to some person that I don't know.

• 37:32Hannah Berner?

  That could be looking over my shoulder.

• 37:34Paige DeSorbo?

  Right, right.

• 37:35Hannah Berner?

  Well, Lil, did you know, I had no idea where my phone was, so no one was gonna see it.

• 37:39Paige DeSorbo?

  Right. My point, exactly. Like, the last thing I need is like Paige DeSorbo's name popping up and it's just like, the most scathing text.

• 37:49Hannah Berner?

  But there's such a freedom of not having your phone and it not even being your fault. You're like, that was the universe. They don't want me to have it. But I, when people text me now, you can't see what they're saying. It just says new message.

• 37:59Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, right, right. No, I mean, I have that too. Yeah, no, I have that too.

• 38:03Hannah Berner?

  That's crazy. That's crazy. Um, Harry Styles' new tour, he's wearing a tie. Apparently, no one can have an original thought anymore.

• 38:12Paige DeSorbo?

  Now you see just like average businessmen walking down the street and you're like, okay, guys.

• 38:17Hannah Berner?

  Men wearing ties, give a girl credit. Give me credit.

• 38:21Paige DeSorbo?

  It's like kind of performative at this point.

• 38:23Hannah Berner?

  People are mad at his tour because there's like part of the setup, because they do these crazy setups. It has like a curve and some VIP people couldn't see anything because of like the way they designed the tour floor. So clearly, there wasn't a woman's touch involved.

• 38:39Paige DeSorbo?

  Is he like our, like, rock star? You think of like our generation?

• 38:44Hannah Berner?

  I think he's, he's like a heartthrob. I wouldn't say rock star.

• 38:50Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 38:51Hannah Berner?

  Do we have any rock stars?

• 38:53Paige DeSorbo?

  I don't know, but it's so funny because anytime I'm around anyone, truly, and I, except you, and I say like, oh, I don't really get the Harry Styles. Like, I think he's cute and I think like a lot of his songs are very catchy, but for me, I don't get the heartthrob vibe. I don't know. I feel like he's more like, oh, that's a guy friend in my group, a friend.

• 39:17Hannah Berner?

  A hundred percent.

• 39:18Paige DeSorbo?

  Like, that's the vibe he gives to me. Like, he'd be a great time to like go out with and hang out with.

• 39:22Hannah Berner?

  And we were too old for One Direction.

• 39:24Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, maybe that's it. Especially with the topic I'm about to talk about next.

• 39:29Hannah Berner?

  Drop it.

• 39:29Paige DeSorbo?

  What are we doing with our gray hairs? Because...

• 39:34Paige DeSorbo?

  This is a ser- no, like, this is a serious question. I have some girlfriends that dye their hair because they're like my grays. And it's easy. My blondes, I don't even ask them because they're dying all the time. They're like, don't even have to deal with it.

• 39:51Paige DeSorbo?

  Does that sound me?

• 39:53Hannah Berner?

  They've been dying their hair, not like actually dying.

• 39:56Paige DeSorbo?

  They're dying.

• 39:57Hannah Berner?

  I was like, wait, what?

• 39:58Paige DeSorbo?

  They're dying their hair all the time, so they don't really have to think about it.

• 40:01Hannah Berner?

  I don't think you could see it against the blonde.

• 40:03Paige DeSorbo?

  Right, and also like, they wanna be that color. They're like, they get crazy sometimes.

• 40:08Hannah Berner?

  The blonde community just catching strays every podcast.

• 40:11Paige DeSorbo?

  No, the blondes have a tough go of it because they get this thing in their head, they they get manipulated by their own blondness, and they're like, I'm not blonde enough, and then like,

• 40:23Hannah Berner?

  Oh yeah.

• 40:24Paige DeSorbo?

  If you have a blonde friend and she's starting the transition to brunette, you have to be, you have to be there for them.

• 40:29Hannah Berner?

  My favorite thing to do with blondes is when they go from platinum to like just normal blonde, I go, oh my god, you look so good brunette, and then they spiral.

• 40:39Paige DeSorbo?

  And people think you're nicer than me. I know the sensitivity you have to have with a blonde who's transitioning. It's really, they know. You gotta watch them. They'll burn your house down if they're transitioning and someone says something.

• 40:52Hannah Berner?

  Do you know what people don't talk about though, brunettes, who get a couple of highlights and you don't realize, looking back, you were fully blonde. I was blonde in my twenties and no one told me, and it looked like shit.

• 41:02Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, you were pretty blonde at one point.

• 41:05Hannah Berner?

  Blondes. And I just went in asking for a highlight, and next thing you know.

• 41:08Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, because the best thing that ever happened to you was ombre, because you were like, no root situation. Yeah, I'll do it all day long.

• 41:15Hannah Berner?

  Ombre changed my li- ombre?

• 41:17Paige DeSorbo?

  Ombre.

• 41:17Hannah Berner?

  The girls loved ombre. Um, so with the grays, there is a spray.

• 41:22Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay.

• 41:23Hannah Berner?

  That you, a dye spray, so you get it your color, yours is easy, get black or whatever your thing is. Dark brown. What are you? Dark, dark brown?

• 41:31Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm espresso, maybe like a mocha.

• 41:34Hannah Berner?

  Espresso. I'm a cappuccino. So, you get the color and then you spray it.

• 41:40Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm a chestnut.

• 41:44Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm a rich mahogany.

• 41:46Hannah Berner?

  You are a rich mahogany.

• 41:48Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm a really rich library.

• 41:50Hannah Berner?

  You've never stepped foot in a library. So you can spray it if you're like going out.

• 41:53Paige DeSorbo?

  Like every day, okay, yeah, like a.

• 41:56Hannah Berner?

  But there was a time on Summer House when I was just by the pool, minded my own business for the first time ever. And Paige came up like a monkey mom and started yanking out all my gray hairs.

• 42:10Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, because you were my first friend to have grays. You had grays young. You must have been stressed, honey.

• 42:16Hannah Berner?

  I went gray early.

• 42:17Paige DeSorbo?

  You had, you went gray early.

• 42:18Hannah Berner?

  I went gray early and I guess my dad went gray early. Also, my husband's gray, so I'm like trying to catch up. But you just started picking it. In my head, I was like, I was told that she shouldn't do this, but it's kind of fun right now. And you were so happy, like you were having so much fun.

• 42:34Paige DeSorbo?

  That's like folklore.

• 42:36Hannah Berner?

  I don't know, but they do grow straight up. But I think that's because grays have different like texture.

• 42:41Paige DeSorbo?

  I'd like a real woman of stem to clock in on this. Is that a myth that if you pluck a gray hair that five more grow? And if true, what would the, what would the science be behind that? I have a girlfriend that like takes like scissors and like just cuts them down really low. I'm tweezing them right out.

• 43:02Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 43:03Paige DeSorbo?

  Like I'm pulling, but I only ever get them on this side. But let me tell you something. The first time you do a ponytail and you randomly see like a bunch of grays.

• 43:15Hannah Berner?

  On the side.

• 43:16Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, you do have like an existential.

• 43:21Paige DeSorbo?

  Like I sat there and I was like, I don't have children. I don't even, I don't have kids yet. I'm like, I don't have a pension plan.

• 43:31Paige DeSorbo?

  It's really jarring. It's and it's really sad. And then it's just another thing where men, it's like distinguished and wise and it's women, it's like you're disgusting.

• 43:42Hannah Berner?

  Does his life got significantly better when he went gray?

• 43:46Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, it's just so annoying that like, you know what it is? It's that like, I hate men that have hope. Like, if they have hope, it's really not good. I don't want to ever give them any type of hope. And, one thing that's really bad for the male species is, there's always the possibility that they can get hot.

• 44:05Hannah Berner?

  I know.

• 44:06Paige DeSorbo?

  Because like, they do get better with a... Look at Steve Carell.

• 44:11Hannah Berner?

  He's become a sex symbol. Seth Rogen.

• 44:13Paige DeSorbo?

  Is that crazy?

• 44:15Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, it is crazy. Speaking of, when you said, um, what'd you say? Existential? What did you just say?

• 44:23Paige DeSorbo?

  Existential.

• 44:28Hannah Berner?

  You actually have it. You have it. It's there.

• 44:30Paige DeSorbo?

  Existential.

• 44:31Hannah Berner?

  Existential, you have it. Someone wanted me to message you and say, "It's not all of the sudden, it's all of a sudden."

• 44:39Paige DeSorbo?

  All of the sudden. All of a sudden.

• 44:41Hannah Berner?

  Apparently, you said "all of the sudden." I don't know. I'm just repeating. I'm just repeating. I'm the middleman.

• 44:47Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, that actually makes sense. All of a sudden.

• 44:49Hannah Berner?

  Were you saying "all of the sudden"?

• 44:51Paige DeSorbo?

  All of the sudden. I don't know if I was. All of a sudden.

• 44:58Hannah Berner?

  You're rethinking every conversation you've ever had.

• 45:01Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, keep going. What were you saying?

• 45:03Hannah Berner?

  Oh yeah, anyway with grays, I, I will tweeze it. Also, if you cut it too much, then you have a lot of like, little spiky...

• 45:10Paige DeSorbo?

  Right, and then I'm like, she's a crazy person.

• 45:13Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 45:15Paige DeSorbo?

  But, I think people really do believe that if you tweeze it, like, five more will grow in its place. That's why I'm like, we need to debunk this.

• 45:22Hannah Berner?

  But I do believe, like, when I'm in a meeting, if I have a gray that's showing, I'm like, "You better fucking listen to me." Because I've seen some shit.

• 45:30Paige DeSorbo?

  Wow, see, I feel unkempt.

• 45:32Hannah Berner?

  Whenever anyone says anything about my grays, or I bring it up, I just go, "Sorry, I did a reality TV." You would too.

• 45:43Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, it was only three years, but it doesn't just leave you.

• 45:46Paige DeSorbo?

  It had a lasting impact.

• 45:53Paige DeSorbo?

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• 46:35Paige DeSorbo?

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• 47:20Paige DeSorbo?

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• 48:05Paige DeSorbo?

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• 48:29Hannah Berner?

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• 48:36Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I, if I'm wearing a hat, I'm a different person. Okay, the weather totally changes how you feel and it's obviously like getting a little cooler out and I'm a different girl in a turtleneck.

• 48:49Hannah Berner?

  And part of rebranding is getting new clothes and that's why I love Revolve. They have everything I need to be a completely new person that no one's ever met before. Whether it's denim such as an aegled barrel jean, I'm so different when I'm wearing a barrel jean. People do respect me more.

• 49:07Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm a creative director of somewhere.

• 49:11Hannah Berner?

  Then boots with a little kitten heel or a high heel. When I'm wearing boots, I command a room.

• 49:16Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. And don't get me started on just like a really good dinner outfit. You get me a new blazer to go out to dinner. I'm having a time.

• 49:26Hannah Berner?

  And then people forget that on Revolve, there's also beauty. They have menswear, they have home and they have Forward Renew, which is pre-owned luxury handbags and you know how much we love vintage.

• 49:38Paige DeSorbo?

  I've been recently loving Helsa's stuff. I feel like the first place I go to look is Revolve. And the number one thing I love about Revolve is order a bunch of stuff. Try it on in the comfort of your home, easiest return ever. It's the only place I shop that I don't feel bad ordering extra stuff because I'm like, I have the luxury of trying it on and having the easiest returns.

• 50:02Hannah Berner?

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• 50:20Hannah Berner?

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• 50:28Paige DeSorbo?

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• 51:01Hannah Berner?

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• 51:45Hannah Berner?

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• 51:57Hannah Berner?

  You asked me if I watched the documentary. Are you talking about the crash?

• 52:00Paige DeSorbo?

  Yes.

• 52:02Hannah Berner?

  It was intense.

• 52:03Paige DeSorbo?

  I've watched a lot of documentaries per your recommendation, and you watch some weird shit. Like, you like culty weird sex, like, just like weird murder stuff. This documentary made me physically ill. Like, I actually at one point was like, oh, I just got so nauseous from this.

• 52:28Hannah Berner?

  Because you know what it's like to be in a toxic relationship and how, like... Quickly it could happen.

• 52:34Paige DeSorbo?

  That and also, it was just, it was so dupe. Like she was so, she could dupe so many people because like what she was like cute and like, it was just very scary.

• 52:49Hannah Berner?

  Not to be like, I'm such a girl's girl, but like,

• 52:51Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 52:52Hannah Berner?

  Throughout it, I really was giving her.

• 52:55Paige DeSorbo?

  Same, the benefit of the doubt.

• 52:56Hannah Berner?

  Like the way she was crying, I was like, that's like a girl who like, something accidentally happened.

• 53:01Paige DeSorbo?

  And like in court, when they showed like her Instagram pictures, I was like, okay, what does this have to do with who she is as a person like?

• 53:09Hannah Berner?

  So in my further research.

• 53:11Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 53:11Hannah Berner?

  Apparently Netflix did not show all the evidence, because it did seem a little gray to me. And then at the end, everyone's like, yeah, fuck her. And I'm like, but it, it did seem a little confusing. Apparently on Hulu, there's another documentary called Mean Girl Murders, where they cover the case and there's more evidence. Now, fast forward if you don't want to know what happened, but I'm gonna give you all the tea.

• 53:30Paige DeSorbo?

  Mm-hmm.

• 53:31Hannah Berner?

  This girl is dating this guy Dom, great name. And they're in this friend group in high school, they're smoking weed, whatever. She gets into a car accident. And the, the two boys she's with in the car die. And she's critically injured. Like it's crazy she survived that.

• 53:49Paige DeSorbo?

  Insane. That was the, one of the number one reasons I was like, well, she's not gonna do something on purpose. She's the, in the car, she, there's no way you would think, oh, I'll survive this.

• 54:03Hannah Berner?

  Or it was one of those like suicide missions, like I'd rather us all go than you leave me.

• 54:09Paige DeSorbo?

  Mm-hmm.

• 54:10Hannah Berner?

  So apparently, she had done like a test drive the previous days, like a couple of times in that area, and that area is nowhere near where she lives. So that's what the Hulu documentary had shown. That's what people are saying online. That makes it like very clear that like, maybe something was premeditated. So also in these small towns, I do feel like you know where every turn is. Like, don't you like know where you're going if you drive all the time? So she apparently did a hundred miles per hour.

• 54:46Hannah Berner?

  Straight into a building and at the very last five seconds, it shows that the neutral and drive was going back and forth and that they turned the the steering wheel and the guys were on top of each other.

• 55:02Paige DeSorbo?

  Mm hmm.

• 55:03Hannah Berner?

  That could have been he got thrown or it could have been both the guys were fighting her.

• 55:07Paige DeSorbo?

  Like trying to get her off the.

• 55:09Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, but the dark thing about it all is that like she wasn't trying to live. If that was on purpose, like she wanted them all to go.

• 55:17Paige DeSorbo?

  Right, that's why it's so.

• 55:20Hannah Berner?

  It doesn't make sense.

• 55:21Paige DeSorbo?

  It doesn't make any sense, like there's something missing.

• 55:24Hannah Berner?

  Her story from the very beginning is I have no idea what happened. I have no idea what happened and then her mom was like she has pots.

• 55:32Paige DeSorbo?

  That is so not true, that I feel like was just a my only thing that I like I'm thinking watching it is you know when someone because they say they left at 5am.

• 55:43Hannah Berner?

  Mm hmm.

• 55:44Paige DeSorbo?

  You know when someone wakes you up in the morning and you're like pissed off like why are you making waking me up so every little thing you're just like I'm annoyed.

• 55:53Hannah Berner?

  Mm hmm.

• 55:54Paige DeSorbo?

  I feel like he said something or someone texted him. And it was like if you don't tell me right now or you don't if you don't do this right now like I'll kill all of us and that's and that's it. And then when it was too by the time it was too late, she couldn't.

• 56:11Hannah Berner?

  I mean, and I tried to think like maybe it was an accident, like there was no one on the road and she's like, let's go 100 and then was like, oh shit. This, there's a a building.

• 56:21Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I don't know, but like.

• 56:23Hannah Berner?

  It's some suburban kid shit.

• 56:25Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, it was a really crazy story.

• 56:27Hannah Berner?

  Really crazy and she's currently in jail and but the way the documentary was done was weird.

• 56:33Paige DeSorbo?

  Here's the other thing, like not that I'm a parent, but in what fucking world are you letting your daughter move in with her boyfriend at 17 years old like she had zero supervision, she had like. Her parents knew she was smoking weed at such a young age, like yeah, she's only gonna progress to doing more drugs. She had too much freedom.

• 56:55Hannah Berner?

  They didn't explain things.

• 56:56Paige DeSorbo?

  Personality, she didn't have the personality to have this much freedom as a child.

• 57:02Hannah Berner?

  They didn't explain things and they were like, yeah, Dom has a lot of money. No one explained how that happened. There was a text that said like, I wanna buy drugs from Dom, so I'm assuming that he was like a big deal drug dealer in the area.

• 57:16Paige DeSorbo?

  He probably like sold weed.

• 57:17Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, but he was able to get his own house and she lived in it with him. Then the mom like basically saying she didn't really know the other kid, so she didn't care to like say something.

• 57:30Paige DeSorbo?

  Didn't you write something down when you were gonna know you were gonna speak in court?

• 57:34Hannah Berner?

  The whole thing was crazy. It's called The Crash. It's on Netflix. Let us know what you guys think. Something is awry and it's cuz she gave them no information. So like there was nothing to work with. And then she had her friend on just being like.

• 57:48Paige DeSorbo?

  Just gonna say, people were really mad at the friend because she wouldn't talk to the police and she wouldn't. But she would talk to Netflix.

• 57:56Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 57:56Paige DeSorbo?

  That's another reason which made me think she was guilty.

• 58:00Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 58:00Paige DeSorbo?

  Because if you are guilty, your friend isn't talking to the police. Do you know what I mean?

• 58:07Hannah Berner?

  Also, her friend has like a TikTok following, so she was like, I was doing really well on TikTok.

• 58:11Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 58:11Hannah Berner?

  Thank you for this interview. We were best friends and she was perfect. But it is a weird like mean girl situation where one girl was like, she always defended me and then another girl was like, she told me to kill myself.

• 58:22Paige DeSorbo?

  When they're trying to get like what she was like as a person.

• 58:26Hannah Berner?

  And then she said that there was a car ride. He claimed that she was threatening to kill them each other in the car. Actually, this what, no one should be driving. No one, don't drive. I didn't get my license.

• 58:40Paige DeSorbo?

  My, yeah, this is why Hannah didn't have her license. My mom wouldn't let me leave the house and we're all better for it. Truly.

• 58:47Hannah Berner?

  No, they're just huge weapons. Get a bicycle.

• 58:51Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm doing this new thing where I cook once a week and I'm really proud of myself. Like, I have had a transformational year. I've read a book.

• 59:02Paige DeSorbo?

  I've cooked dinner and like a hundred pages into strangers.

• 59:08Hannah Berner?

  Oh, good.

• 59:08Paige DeSorbo?

  I need to get back into it. I like took a little break.

• 59:10Hannah Berner?

  Everyone's into yesteryear?

• 59:12Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, my god, I can't keep up. I literally, does anyone have a, like, another hobby?

• 59:17Hannah Berner?

  Book talk is fucking crazy. Also, I'm like, how fast do you guys read?

• 59:21Paige DeSorbo?

  No, these bitches are reading fast.

• 59:23Hannah Berner?

  Quick.

• 59:24Paige DeSorbo?

  How are they reading so quickly?

• 59:26Hannah Berner?

  Well, I order yesteryear. It's like sitting there and Dez is just like, wakes up at 6:00 a.m. in the morning, nothing to do for four hours before I wake up. So he just grabbed the book and brought it to a coffee shop, has basically finished it. And he's like, what's this book about? He just reads things that are in front of him. He'll read a pamphlet. He doesn't care.

• 59:45Paige DeSorbo?

  Seriously? How long does it take you to get through one page of a book?

• 59:49Hannah Berner?

  When I'm in the zone, I can fly, but like, when I hit a, like, you know when you like can't get past a certain paragraph?

• 59:56Paige DeSorbo?

  Like, how many minutes is it taking you to read 50 pages?

• 59:59Hannah Berner?

  I don't know.

• 1:00:01Paige DeSorbo?

  I need to know, I need to know what the rate of readers is.

• 1:00:05Hannah Berner?

  So you're saying?

• 1:00:06Paige DeSorbo?

  Like, what's considered a fast reader and how fast are you actually going? And I need the spectrum, ladies. And what's a slow reader? Yeah.

• 1:00:15Hannah Berner?

  You should read next to someone.

• 1:00:17Paige DeSorbo?

  No.

• 1:00:20Paige DeSorbo?

  Are you kidding me? You basically just asked me to go up to the board, show my work.

• 1:00:25Hannah Berner?

  Okay, let's take a breath. We're not in school and you can take as long as you need to get through that paragraph. If you have found out the words, you do it.

• 1:00:35Hannah Berner?

  No, but you know when you like can't get through a paragraph sometimes?

• 1:00:37Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:38Hannah Berner?

  Something about it is just like.

• 1:00:39Paige DeSorbo?

  Or you like catch yourself like, oh, I was just thinking about something else.

• 1:00:42Hannah Berner?

  I have, yeah. Oh, I have another thing we all have to listen to.

• 1:00:47Paige DeSorbo?

  What?

• 1:00:48Hannah Berner?

  The podcast. I actually met them at iHeart. I think the girl's actually a giggler, which makes it that much more fun. It's called Love Trapped. Have you heard of this? It's about Clayton from The Bachelor.

• 1:01:04Hannah Berner?

  And he gets involved after

• 1:01:07Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, wait.

• 1:01:08Hannah Berner?

  It's really crazy.

• 1:01:10Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, he, he was the bachelor.

• 1:01:12Hannah Berner?

  The worst experience on The Bachelor. Like, everyone hates him. He goes, fuck this. He moves to Arizona to become a real estate agent. Within a couple of days, he gets a LinkedIn message from someone with no picture. And this girl goes on to ruin his life. And all I'll say is, he ends up hooking up with her. She gives him two blowjobs. And then she ends up claiming that it got her pregnant. And then they go, it becomes a huge diabolical situation. I'm only two episodes in, but it's like, it's crazy pants.

• 1:01:48Paige DeSorbo?

  It's like a baby reindeer.

• 1:01:49Hannah Berner?

  Yes. She's blowing up his phone, emails, he's blocking her. She's threatening to get his real estate license revoked. She's saying, I'll get an abortion if you date me for a week. He's like, are you pregnant? She's like, you can't come to the doctor's office. I'll say you're threatening me. Like, really scary stuff. And

• 1:02:08Paige DeSorbo?

  No, people are scary.

• 1:02:09Hannah Berner?

  People are scary. Arizona, um, shout out to Arizona. Beautiful cacti.

• 1:02:15Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 1:02:18Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, you wanna know what? It's so goddamn hot there.

• 1:02:20Hannah Berner?

  I'd be hot-headed too.

• 1:02:23Paige DeSorbo?

  I'd be losing my goddamn mind.

• 1:02:25Hannah Berner?

  Fucking air conditioning. Oh my god, do you remember when we went to Arizona for a show and we were so tired and we stayed at the W and we didn't realize it was like Sunday fun day? And we walked in and it was just like, playing huge club music and I was like,

• 1:02:41Hannah Berner?

  and I was like, I'm so sorry and you were gonna kill me.

• 1:02:43Paige DeSorbo?

  Arizona was the first place ever that I was driving through and I was like, they have no front lawns. No one has a front lawn.

• 1:02:52Hannah Berner?

  They have sand.

• 1:02:53Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I like, didn't realize that was real. Like, they have rocks.

• 1:02:58Hannah Berner?

  Yeah. Yeah, and they have little, little lizards.

• 1:03:01Paige DeSorbo?

  People love Arizona.

• 1:03:03Hannah Berner?

  I love Arizona. I love the vibe. I love the Mexican food.

• 1:03:07Paige DeSorbo?

  It seems very chill.

• 1:03:09Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, for sure. Um, so I recommend people listen to that. We have a lot on the docket. We have a lot of homework for the girls.

• 1:03:15Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 1:03:16Hannah Berner?

  Anyway, how are you?

• 1:03:20Hannah Berner?

  What are you up to this week?

• 1:03:23Paige DeSorbo?

  What am I up to this week? Um, just some like Daphne things. Um, should I like look at my sketch?

• 1:03:33Hannah Berner?

  I kind of have a slow week, but I will be hanging out with my mom later again.

• 1:03:37Paige DeSorbo?

  You know, I have a lot of weddings. I have a lot of weddings coming up.

• 1:03:43Hannah Berner?

  But that's so embarrassing. I have no weddings. Cause all it does is friends are married and my friends are single.

• 1:03:50Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay.

• 1:03:54Paige DeSorbo?

  My friends aren't married. No. Oh, it's a holiday weekend. Do you know like?

• 1:03:59Hannah Berner?

  Oh, I forgot.

• 1:04:00Paige DeSorbo?

  Is there even a weekend as an adult? Like it's just a weekend to do list. It's not like it's relaxing. It's just the things you have to do on the weekend, like your laundry and like, you know what though? I talk so much shit, but there's nothing I love more than a Sunday reset day. It's my favorite thing in the world.

• 1:04:18Hannah Berner?

  I know you get giddy.

• 1:04:19Paige DeSorbo?

  I get giddy to fluff up my bed and like light my candles in my room, do all my laundry. Like I like to set the mood Sunday night in my bedroom at like seven o'clock, even though I'm not coming in till nine. I like to marinate in like.

• 1:04:35Hannah Berner?

  And Daphne's already laying there like, let's go mama.

• 1:04:38Paige DeSorbo?

  Literally, it's like sensual.

• 1:04:41Paige DeSorbo?

  There's smelling oils, like there's massage things happening. Like it's really sensual.

• 1:04:48Hannah Berner?

  I love that for you. I never know what day it is, but this week my trailer is dropping. I'm actually not sure which day. I'm nervous. I'm excited.

• 1:04:58Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay. Let us know if you can tell what clip is in fact, the good hair clip. Because it's really important.

• 1:05:06Hannah Berner?

  I get so excited to drop stuff for gigglers and then it's, it's just like, I don't know. It's, it's a big deal. It's my body. It's finally coming out. So keep an eye out for that. I got my mango pineapple Duncan refresher today with green tea less concentrate.

• 1:05:20Paige DeSorbo?

  I got the berry acai and this time I got green tea instead of sparkling, which I think is why I sucked it down so fast.

• 1:05:30Hannah Berner?

  Oh, it was easier because it wasn't sparkling.

• 1:05:32Paige DeSorbo?

  I was very thirsty.

• 1:05:33Hannah Berner?

  Mm hmm. Well, thank you Duncan for sponsoring the episode. We love you guys. Thanks for giggling and we'll talk to you later.

• 1:05:41Paige DeSorbo?

  Bye.

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