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• 0:00Paige DeSorbo?

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• 0:51Hannah Berner?

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• 1:35Hannah Berner?

  I was thinking about how women have so many little things we have to do when we're getting home that you have to be aware of.

• 1:41Paige DeSorbo?

  Like so many people have my location.

• 1:43Hannah Berner?

  And you have to share your ETA, you have to check the route, you have to text everyone I'm home.

• 1:47Paige DeSorbo?

  And if your friend like doesn't text you, "Oh, you got home," you're calling the FBI.

• 1:52Hannah Berner?

  Yep, yep. And we joke about it because it's so normal to us, but you're constantly paying attention. Even when you're exhausted and just want to get home, your brain still has to be on. You're like, is this guy going the right route? Am I in the right place? Who's around me? What's happening?

• 2:06Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, there's truly no clocking out of your safety.

• 2:09Hannah Berner?

  And that's why riding in a Waymo feels different. It's an autonomous ride with an empty driver's seat. So once you get in, you have this private space that's actually just yours.

• 2:17Paige DeSorbo?

  And you know, I love alone time, and I truly feel like it's such a luxury in a Waymo.

• 2:21Hannah Berner?

  Especially after being social. Like, I love everyone, but like...

• 2:24Paige DeSorbo?

  Please, nobody speak to me.

• 2:26Hannah Berner?

  Like, give me 20 minutes. I want music, the right temperature. There's no compromising. And you can customize the ride, put on your own music, answer texts you ignored all night, stare out the window. You actually have a minute where you're not thinking about everyone else.

• 2:39Paige DeSorbo?

  And that's the thing. It's not even necessarily about doing something. Sometimes it's just, you want to sit there and not speak.

• 2:46Hannah Berner?

  And put your guard down for a second and feel safe.

• 2:49Paige DeSorbo?

  Which truly women deserve.

• 2:51Hannah Berner?

  We deserve to disassociate safely for 20 minutes.

• 2:54Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I mean, put that on a t-shirt, for real.

• 2:57Hannah Berner?

  And obviously, safety is a huge part of why that feeling matters. Knowing Waymo's safer, there's something refreshing in having that space where you can just be yourself and let Waymo handle the driving.

• 3:06Paige DeSorbo?

  And we spend enough of our lives being on.

• 3:09Hannah Berner?

  Exactly.

• 3:10Paige DeSorbo?

  We don't need to be on in the car.

• 3:12Hannah Berner?

  Getting around shouldn't require so much mental energy. And if this sounds like your ideal way to get around too, download the Waymo app and use code GIGLY to get 20% off your next two rides. You could check out the full terms in the app.

• 3:25Paige DeSorbo?

  We love a discount.

• 3:26Hannah Berner?

  And if Waymo isn't in your city yet, head to waymo.com/gigly to sign up and help bring Waymo to you.

• 3:33Speaker 02

  Sup, gigglers? Carrie, fix the wifi. Manifest that shit. We can't be managed.

• 3:43Speaker 02

  I mean, the day just got away from me.

• 3:47Hannah Berner?

  What's up, my greasy gigglers? It's Friday, Friday, everyone's on a Friday.

• 3:53Paige DeSorbo?

  You know, I got dressed this morning and I was like, oh my God, so cute, like preppy. She's giving beach house. She's giving second home. And then I got on the Zoom and I'm like, I'm just dressed like Hannah.

• 4:05Hannah Berner?

  No, but when you do it, it's chic. I'm obsessed with it. You look like you're in boarding school and just gave your first handjob and you like, don't know what to do and you don't know if it went well or not.

• 4:14Paige DeSorbo?

  And like, it's sticky and like, it kind of smells. No one warns you? No one tells you that it does in fact smell? That's something you learn on your own.

• 4:25Hannah Berner?

  His dick.

• 4:26Paige DeSorbo?

  The cum, I would say.

• 4:28Hannah Berner?

  Oh, I try not to get that close.

• 4:30Paige DeSorbo?

  I think the first time I was like, oh. Guys. Gross.

• 4:35Hannah Berner?

  I would get into it, but I'm pretty sure I have a 15 minute bit about um how back in the day we used to like swallow and stuff on my upcoming special, so.

• 4:44Paige DeSorbo?

  Anyway.

• 4:45Hannah Berner?

  We're gonna have to save that. Anyway, um.

• 4:47Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, I wanted to bring up your special because I wanted to make it about me for a minute.

• 4:52Hannah Berner?

  Please, please, please, please.

• 4:54Paige DeSorbo?

  How you know that you have a true, real friendship with someone? No, seriously, listen to this.

• 5:06Paige DeSorbo?

  Like, it's so easy to be happy when your friend is happy, like, oh my god, like, we're going out tonight, or like, something, whatever. But when your friend is stressed, now, mind you, when you were filming the special, I was getting a massage, but I knew. I knew how stressed you were for the trailer to come out, that like, when it did get posted, I felt relief. I was like, cute. And now she doesn't have to worry about that, you know?

• 5:35Hannah Berner?

  Well, you also sent me the cutest, sweetest, funniest text. She goes, I realize I never texted you for your trailer and I had a parasocial relationship instead, congrats, which is basically, she commented on every photo I posted, she reposted everything. She was on a full PR campaign for me yesterday and then was like, hey, sorry, I didn't text you directly, are you mad?

• 5:56Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, I was like, I'm no better than someone on Reddit. Like, I literally made up that I have a friendship with this woman.

• 6:02Hannah Berner?

  Every now and then, when you do something like really big, I I turn into a fan and then I'm like, if I text her. She really busy right now.

• 6:11Paige DeSorbo?

  Is she doing it right now? Like, is she on set now?

• 6:15Hannah Berner?

  We had an airport moment where I was like, I'm gonna show you this trailer and I just wanna see your thoughts. And that was like, the test. Like, you didn't realize it, but if you didn't have a decent reaction to it, and I didn't need you like, laughing hysterically, I just, I just know when you like something.

• 6:31Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 6:32Hannah Berner?

  And you had a great reaction. I was like, I don't give a fuck. Paige liked it. We're good. And that's how you have to be with creativity. Like if the people you care about love it as much as you do, you go for it. And also, we're just talking about the trailer right now, but I'm just a real perfectionist.

• 6:46Paige DeSorbo?

  You really are. It's actually exhausting. You think my hair cycling is exhausting? Listening to you like make art is so exhausting.

• 6:55Hannah Berner?

  Well, people don't talk about it. I'm I'm a Virgo moon. People never talk about it. Never brought up in any of these, you know, thought, thought things that people post.

• 7:04Paige DeSorbo?

  It's not brought up because no one, I feel like I have a front row seat to you as a businesswoman.

• 7:11Hannah Berner?

  It's not, it's not relaxing.

• 7:14Paige DeSorbo?

  There's nobody I know other than Hannah that will start something and then halfway through be like, this is horrible. I can't believe you guys even let me get this far. I'm changing the whole thing.

• 7:26Hannah Berner?

  When I fail, I fail fast and I'm I'm I love to move. I love change. I will pivot. I'm a pivoter. But also, by the way, just so you guys get a glimpse behind the curtain. So Grace sends us all these clips from what happened on the pod and Paige literally is like, love, cute. Can you actually like, um, change the background of that? Or like, can you not use my face in that one?

• 7:46Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, sometimes Grace picks the most diabolical screenshots of me and I'm like, Grace acted like you've met me before.

• 7:51Hannah Berner?

  Grace thinks you're beautiful in every angle. That's why. And I will come in and be like, Grace, at point four seconds, there's like two, and I'm like, I, we can't post this. This is not good enough. And then I'll be like, at point seven, five seconds, you have to cut that faster and then like, do actually like a CGI moment over my head when I say this joke. Paige doesn't respond. Grace and I are in like eight hours of editing.

• 8:15Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm like Hannah's skin color is giving orange, so maybe we change the lighting? But everything else is great. You guys are crushing.

• 8:22Hannah Berner?

  Can you make the Hannah look aesthetically pleasing for like a second? But that's the thing. Like when I'm with an outfit, I'm like, I'm stressed about editing clips. I don't have time.

• 8:30Paige DeSorbo?

  My favorite thing is like when we talk about merch and you say, Paige, what do you think? I'm like, sorry, it's my time. Um.

• 8:37Hannah Berner?

  Also, actually, we don't know where Grace is. She's supposed to be on this virtual, we don't know where she is. And Paige said, tell Grace to join at her own leisure. And I just want to say shout out to you for like, thinking of words. I talk for a living, but I actually don't do words. You talk for a living. You love a word.

• 8:57Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, you know what?

• 8:57Hannah Berner?

  Not like a full sentence, a word.

• 8:59Paige DeSorbo?

  Mm hmm. I, it's true. I could make one word my whole personality. I love a word that has an alternative rich person way to say said word.

• 9:11Hannah Berner?

  Mm, like foyer.

• 9:13Paige DeSorbo?

  Yes, like foyer. Like, I love someone that would be like, oh, my god, leisure. But then there's like a rich woman that says leisure. Like actual leisure. Like, I like, um, I feel like I feel like I have so many words. Like, okay, actually, this is so crazy. You know, like the word mature? Sometime, one time I heard this woman pronounce it mature. And I, I literally remember where I was, how old I was, what I was doing when I heard that. Cause I was like, oh, my god, she's not like other girls.

• 9:46Hannah Berner?

  Well, not to talk about my husband, because that's annoying, but cause he grew up in Europe, he says some funky ass words. And at first I'm like, you are so dumb. You said that word wrong. And then he's like, Google it. And I'm like, oh, it's the European way. You're actually better than me. Sorry. Sorry.

• 10:01Paige DeSorbo?

  I actually do think that sometimes I can have, actually.

• 10:08Paige DeSorbo?

  Sorry, whenever I have a thought.

• 10:11Hannah Berner?

  Period. Whenever I have a thought, brain explodes.

• 10:16Paige DeSorbo?

  I saw this girl, she made this TikTok and she was talking about how, um, women, there's like a bunch of people that will do like.

• 10:24Hannah Berner?

  She's talking about women.

• 10:25Paige DeSorbo?

  There that will do full studies on linguistics and the separation between men and women and things they say. And they're, and she was talking about how women say like a lot and.

• 10:36Hannah Berner?

  I mean, I've never, but some other women.

• 10:38Paige DeSorbo?

  But like how women are like, oh, my god, all she does is say like, and like, um, like that we have a lot of filler words. And some girl commented the video. And was like, I'm actually learning about this for like my thesis in linguistics or whatever. And she said, from like all the studies people have done, women don't get to talk a lot. So we actually put filler words in because if there is a silence, typically the other person will immediately start talking. So we almost have to add in filler words to keep our place to let the other person know we are not done speaking. And I was like.

• 11:17Hannah Berner?

  Oh my god, we're just trying to take up space.

• 11:19Paige DeSorbo?

  We're just trying to take up space.

• 11:22Hannah Berner?

  Why am I like getting like emotional like right now?

• 11:25Paige DeSorbo?

  And the girl that made the like initial video was like, I would never hate on another woman for using filler words or like, or having like a valley accent because it is most common in women. And so why would I hate on another woman for being a woman?

• 11:41Hannah Berner?

  I also love a woman who speaks slow like this. I'm like, take, waste a man's time. Waste a man's time and actually never get to the thought, never fully get to the thought. Wow, now I think of everything differently.

• 11:56Paige DeSorbo?

  What were we saying though before?

• 11:58Hannah Berner?

  We literally just started the pod and we're already, we never had a direction, I actually think. I mean, we're talking about the trailer. If you approve, a lot of the gigglers approve, but they have to wait for you to cosign before they jump on board.

• 12:10Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, it's funny because I had a lot of gigglers in my DMs, seeing if they could figure out what exact second that I said, wow, your hair looks so good like that.

• 12:19Hannah Berner?

  But you know what happened? You saw the wide trailer that's on YouTube. This was cut down, so you actually couldn't see the full hair. Um, so anyway, also Lenore is visiting right now because.

• 12:33Paige DeSorbo?

  So the place is spotless.

• 12:36Hannah Berner?

  You know, like you clean before like a hookup comes over. That's nothing like the way I clean before my mother comes over. I do like to leave her some things because she likes to have a hobby and she really likes to do the dishes. That's like her thing. So I let her have fun, but like Dez and I were cleaning like we've never cleaned before. We were so scared.

• 12:57Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, really?

• 12:58Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, we woke up early.

• 13:01Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, that's serious.

• 13:03Hannah Berner?

  We woke up early and I was like, come on, we gotta go. And we were like, I mean, this is what normal people do like once a week, but.

• 13:09Paige DeSorbo?

  Do you know that I don't think I've ever seen you clean? Like, like, I don't think I've seen.

• 13:15Hannah Berner?

  Cause I'm a feminist. Cause I'm a feminist.

• 13:17Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, now that I think about it, I don't think I've ever seen you take like a spray bottle and

• 13:24Paige DeSorbo?

  and spray something.

• 13:26Hannah Berner?

  And you just say cleaning takes initiative. And when you grow up in Italian house household where like the women take over, I'm never used to taking that initiative. You have to just, even if you're at someone's house and I realize like you just have to start cleaning. And everyone like respects it, but I see it as like invasive. I'm like, I'm not gonna touch your table.

• 13:45Paige DeSorbo?

  Like I wouldn't walk into someone's home and open up their refrigerator. So why would I open up their cleaning supply closet?

• 13:52Hannah Berner?

  Hundred percent. I do think too, there's something about dinner. I always hated how like when we were done eating, all the women got up and took everyone's plates. And you call me lazy, but I was like, no, the men can take my plate. Why is the, why are the women doing this? They already cooked it all.

• 14:10Paige DeSorbo?

  What happens at your family holidays now? Who's cleaning?

• 14:14Hannah Berner?

  Okay. Well, my Nana and Papa are perfect and adorable. My Nana cooks and she takes the plates, but then Papa loves cleaning. Like Papa is handles all the dishes and that's how my mom and dad are too. I just never like when all the men are sitting down and the women are at work. I'm like, what is this?

• 14:31Paige DeSorbo?

  Did you have chores as a child?

• 14:33Hannah Berner?

  Well, this is also, this is kind of the problem is that I had a full-time job. I was just playing tennis.

• 14:41Hannah Berner?

  So it actually inhibited my chores where like.

• 14:44Paige DeSorbo?

  And there we go.

• 14:45Hannah Berner?

  Dez doesn't let me.

• 14:47Paige DeSorbo?

  And that's.

• 14:48Hannah Berner?

  The problem.

• 14:49Paige DeSorbo?

  And we've just figured it out.

• 14:51Hannah Berner?

  Well, yeah, cause I'm not good at it. So I don't want to embarrass myself in front of other people by being like, that's how you put the dishes in the dishwasher. I actually tried to do the dishes and Dez was like, never again. Like this is chaos. He's like, I'm not, that's not where you put everything.

• 15:05Paige DeSorbo?

  How, how bad can you mess up loading a dishwasher?

• 15:10Hannah Berner?

  I guess some people like it more organized where I'm like, if there's an opening, it's like Tetris. You just figure it out.

• 15:16Paige DeSorbo?

  Well. Cups are on the top, plates are on the bottom.

• 15:19Hannah Berner?

  Yes. However, sometimes you don't have a cup or a plate. You have like a weird shaped bowl and I, I try to just shove it.

• 15:27Hannah Berner?

  But look, we all have our, our

• 15:28Paige DeSorbo?

  We all have our quirks. We all have our things.

• 15:31Hannah Berner?

  But I, the truth is after school, I go to tennis practice. I get home at 8:00 PM. I have to do my homework. And I think my parents were like, the girl has enough going on. She can't do it. She's tired. I played paddle this morning.

• 15:48Paige DeSorbo?

  How was that?

• 15:49Hannah Berner?

  Well, I want everyone to know it's different than pickleball. I'm not like on the dark side. You don't have to like call the police. I'm not playing pickleball.

• 15:55Paige DeSorbo?

  Hannah actually texted me and said, can we push the pod one hour because I'm playing paddle? And I, and you know me, I don't know sports or anything, but I've known I've heard her talk about it before. And I said, wait, just checking in because one time you did say, don't ever let me play paddle or I will get arrested. And she takes it back and goes, nope, that was pickleball. And I said, great.

• 16:15Hannah Berner?

  Yes, yes. Also, sorry, I like can't take you seriously because you dress like me right now and I've lost respect for you. I'm like, what is she talking about?

• 16:25Hannah Berner?

  Like you.

• 16:27Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, one day we should do a pod and I'll be you and you be me.

• 16:32Hannah Berner?

  And we just talk the whole time, like what we think that I would say.

• 16:38Paige DeSorbo?

  I would just immediately start crying about my dead grandpa.

• 16:43Hannah Berner?

  No, I actually had a dream about him the other week and it's like, why are you up in my dreams?

• 16:48Paige DeSorbo?

  I had a dream the other week and my mom told me like gossip in the dream, like she was And I had, and I woke up and I went to my Instagram because I was like, is this how I get messages now? Like my mom sends them to me in a dream. And I woke up and I had to like check my Instagram for something to see if it was like true and real, but it wasn't. But I sat in it for a little because I was like

• 17:14Hannah Berner?

  Can be witchin'.

• 17:15Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, because I was like, no, I had a dream that my mom came and whispered something in my ear. And so, and right when I woke up, I was like, my mom just told me something. And that's really scary.

• 17:29Hannah Berner?

  But anyway, I do, I do feel like I wanna play sports, I wanna be athletic, I wanna sweat. I'm not done with my paddle stories, but I woke up to play at nine AM.

• 17:41Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 17:42Hannah Berner?

  Which is early for me. And then it was so hot and I was so tired after it, I was like, I need to cancel all my plans, like.

• 17:49Paige DeSorbo?

  Hold on, wait, just like to take it back for a minute. What is the difference between paddle and pickleball?

• 17:54Hannah Berner?

  So paddle's European, which makes it cool.

• 17:57Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay.

• 17:57Hannah Berner?

  Like people in Spain and then South America play it, it's cultured, it's, it's way more advanced than pickleball.

• 18:05Paige DeSorbo?

  Got it.

• 18:06Hannah Berner?

  Um, pickleball is like, is with a fricking.

• 18:08Paige DeSorbo?

  For kids.

• 18:09Hannah Berner?

  What is it, what is, it's with a wiffle ball, which is so funny, imagine someone being like, wiffle ball is now a sport. And like all these people are just like, do you remember wiffle ball as a kid?

• 18:20Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I thought it was stupid.

• 18:21Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, it's for the unathletic baseball players.

• 18:23Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 18:23Hannah Berner?

  So anyway, but look, if you're playing pickle, I totally support you. It's just as a tennis player, we get like hate. Even in the community and like I could only handle so much.

• 18:32Paige DeSorbo?

  Within the industry and we can't have that.

• 18:33Hannah Berner?

  Within the industry. I love getting you involved.

• 18:35Paige DeSorbo?

  How many industries can we get in trouble with?

• 18:39Hannah Berner?

  My favorite is gossiping to Paige about sports drama and stand-up comedy drama. Cause like you have no, I was gonna say gun in the fight, that's not what they say.

• 18:47Paige DeSorbo?

  I have no skin in the game.

• 18:49Hannah Berner?

  No skin in the game, thank you.

• 18:50Paige DeSorbo?

  You should hear me when I tell other people tennis gossip, cause I'm like, and that's what I heard from my friend.

• 18:57Paige DeSorbo?

  And they're like, do you know any of these people? I'm like, no, and that's what makes it so good.

• 19:03Hannah Berner?

  Like we'll be, we're in tour, we were like running out of things to talk about. And I would like see something on my Instagram of people you definitely didn't know. And I go, these people are getting divorced, do you wanna know why?

• 19:14Hannah Berner?

  And then to make her interested, you have to start from the beginning. Like I'm like, she was born. In a small town. And you were locked in.

• 19:23Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, God, yeah.

• 19:24Hannah Berner?

  You're locked in. But anyway, how are you?

• 19:27Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm good. How are you? I, um.

• 19:30Hannah Berner?

  Oh.

• 19:30Paige DeSorbo?

  Crashed a bachelorette.

• 19:31Hannah Berner?

  I was gonna, I was gonna say, girl's girl of the week. First ever girl's girl of the week. Wait, how did it end up on two ma? Like, what is going on?

• 19:43Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, the first ever girl's girl of the week is hilarious.

• 19:47Hannah Berner?

  You are, I'm so proud of you. You won it.

• 19:49Paige DeSorbo?

  Thank you so much. I wasn't even campaigning.

• 19:52Hannah Berner?

  I'm a stickler with it. You don't just get girl's girl of the week.

• 19:56Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, because Daphne launched bridal support. So like, if you're going out of bachelorette.

• 20:01Hannah Berner?

  Bridal support is so funny.

• 20:02Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 20:03Hannah Berner?

  Bridal help.

• 20:04Paige DeSorbo?

  Email bridal support at daphne the label dot com. So you can like bulk order monogram things. It's just like easier for if you're the maid of honor or whatever. So we get a lot of emails. And let me tell you something, the gigglers are animated, like they're giving you the plot. They're giving you the full story. They're giving you why they've chosen cloud over white stripe because it's just like not aesthetically pleasing and the background, you know, like they, they tell you.

• 20:29Hannah Berner?

  Cause they also think you might be judging them.

• 20:33Hannah Berner?

  They're like, hey, I know that yellow seems like a weird choice. I swear it goes with the like sunflowers that I, that just trust us.

• 20:40Paige DeSorbo?

  And they're like, let me send you my Pinterest because I feel like I could break it down more for you. No, so I do think sometimes they're like, well, what if she's reading this email? Which sometimes I am. So that's how we found this girl. We had a maid of honor email in and say like, she was planning a bachelorette and it was gonna be in New York City. So I was like, oh, this is a perfect bachelorette to crash because I'm right here. Come to find out, so we're like talking to the maid of honor. We're like, what if like Paige surprised the bride? The maid of honor adds another girl to the email and she goes, actually, she knows more about the logistics.

• 21:21Paige DeSorbo?

  This girl emails and goes, okay, so that was actually the bride and she's so type A that she was pretending to be me and asking for the order and um now she's looped me in and we're and sorry about that.

• 21:35Hannah Berner?

  Iconic.

• 21:36Paige DeSorbo?

  Iconic. So from that moment, I was like iconic. Like I love a type A girl that's like, actually, I'll just do it myself.

• 21:43Hannah Berner?

  Wait, pretending to be your own assistant is like not talked about enough and needs to be done as women in STEM. To be like, hey, Hannah's waiting for the follow up.

• 21:53Paige DeSorbo?

  I actually have talked to a couple of people who have made second emails, pretended to be their own assistant and like always made themselves a man. Because like people respond better. So anyway, so we're like, let's surprise both of them because now the surprise is like totally ruined. So we email back and we're like, sorry, like Paige's schedule, like it's just not going to allow it, but we would love to make you a reservation for Friday night or for Thursday night when you guys arrive for your like welcome drinks, basically like we'll make the reservation, we'll set the time on us.

• 22:29Hannah Berner?

  So Daphne also will plan your bachelorette.

• 22:34Paige DeSorbo?

  So Daphne literally will plan your bachelorette. So we had the bride and the maid of honor have no idea. So I had a couple of people from Daphne already there and I'm in the basement.

• 22:43Hannah Berner?

  It's giving punked.

• 22:45Paige DeSorbo?

  Literally. And like, Jack Shepard is gonna come out and be the waiter.

• 22:50Hannah Berner?

  You're just in a basement with a headset and you're like, the eagle has landed.

• 22:55Paige DeSorbo?

  So they get there, the my Daphne um employees give them like a bunch of matching shirts and matching sets and everything that they wanted. And then they went and sat down and were like, okay, like have have so much fun, like sorry Paige couldn't come, whatever. Then like two minutes later, I brought over like champagne to the table.

• 23:16Hannah Berner?

  Oh.

• 23:18Paige DeSorbo?

  It was so fun and just like uh like easy quirky, fun, cute thing. Like it was a great like kickoff of her bachelorette weekend. Like I just felt like it was such an adorable moment.

• 23:32Hannah Berner?

  I also imagine you doing things. Like without me and I'm like, how, because normally, normally I'm like,

• 23:39Paige DeSorbo?

  How'd she get out of the house?

• 23:40Hannah Berner?

  If we were doing it, I would have jumped and you'd been rolling your eyes in the back, but like you surprising someone on your own, I'm like, that's, but she's so like, coof. You actually,

• 23:50Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, but she's never spoken to someone else.

• 23:52Hannah Berner?

  She's never really exclaimed before, but you, I saw the video, you come in your little kitten heels and you're just like, hi.

• 23:59Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, you want to know what's so funny?

• 24:00Hannah Berner?

  I would scare the shit out of them. I'd be like, bah!

• 24:02Paige DeSorbo?

  During the whole thing, I didn't know what to do with my hands.

• 24:05Hannah Berner?

  I know, that's why, I know, I was like, she's so cute.

• 24:09Paige DeSorbo?

  I kept like grabbing them because I was like, hey, I'm just like a small, small girl.

• 24:14Hannah Berner?

  No, Paige is so shy. You guys don't understand, she's so shy. So then when you do difficult things like that, I'm always like, oh my God, look at her navigating the world in her kitten heel. And but also like surprising someone is, it's tough because you're like, what if they don't respond the way you want it? And then once you're there, I'm like, what do we talk about? Like, so how are you?

• 24:36Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I was very, I was nervous to surprise them, but I, I was nervous that to surprise them because I thought they like knew. And I was like, I didn't want them to be like, oh yeah, obviously like here she is.

• 24:48Hannah Berner?

  Hey, girl, woo, got us.

• 24:50Paige DeSorbo?

  So I got like a little nervous, but they were so sweet and it sucks that they have like a horrible weather weekend, but.

• 24:59Hannah Berner?

  Well, at least they're in the city doing like fun indoor things.

• 25:02Paige DeSorbo?

  They sent me like the PowerPoint for the whole wedding weekend. So I knew like what the vibe was for all the outfits and like, there's nothing I love more than a PowerPoint that a girl makes that has nothing to do with her job. And like, because they're so helpful and resourceful, like who, the girl that made this PowerPoint, like, she was like, think skirts, shorts, pants, skirt. Like, I'm like so close.

• 25:27Paige DeSorbo?

  Like she gave a vibe of like each night of what she should, you guys should wear. And I'm like, so everything is acceptable and a go.

• 25:35Hannah Berner?

  That reminds me of us in one of our, our important Zooms, which is just, that should be a show in itself. Because Paige and I were like just listening to people talk, but I felt like we should say anything and they were like, are you ready? Um, we have a presentation and I just go, we love PowerPoints.

• 25:54Hannah Berner?

  And they're like, uh, okay. And we're sitting there and at the end they go, um, Paige, do you have any questions? And she goes, I'm just happy there wasn't a quiz at the end of that. I thought there was gonna be a quiz. And then we got off the call.

• 26:07Paige DeSorbo?

  Because someone had to crack a joke.

• 26:11Hannah Berner?

  No.

• 26:12Paige DeSorbo?

  I literally almost interrupted and was like, what in the eighth grade science class? Because I've almost fallen asleep seven times.

• 26:20Hannah Berner?

  The whole point of a PowerPoint is you get to press it and surprise people with a funny photo.

• 26:24Paige DeSorbo?

  I texted Hannah while we were doing it because I had literally in the moment come up with the most genius thing I've ever come up with. I could not stop yawning. So all I kept doing was rubbing my nose. Because you couldn't see that I was yawning. I was like, I'm a genius.

• 26:43Hannah Berner?

  Every now and then I screenshot Paige in these Zooms. And by the way, it's not with like three people. There's like 20 people. And, but I'm watching her. Believe me, I'm, I'm keeping an eye on her.

• 26:53Paige DeSorbo?

  I always watch.

• 26:54Hannah Berner?

  I'm watching you the whole time. This, she can't help.

• 26:59Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, well, wait for what I'm gonna say about you.

• 27:04Hannah Berner?

  Okay, she goes, come for me. No, but like I screenshot and send it to the group chat. Just so Grace knows how you're representing us in a public. Well, sometimes she pulls out her skincare, which like at that point, I'm just like, that's womanism.

• 27:16Paige DeSorbo?

  That's only with people like I, that I know, you know?

• 27:19Hannah Berner?

  Sometimes like, you, like, I feel like I pretend smile in this life way more than you, which like I'm jealous of. I wish I could have your confidence. I'm fake smiling 24/7. I'm like,

• 27:31Hannah Berner?

  Paige is just sitting there like.

• 27:33Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, you've made yourself a clown for the people. I didn't tell you to do that. So like people expect, people interact with you and they're always laughing. So they expect you to also be in a jovial mood.

• 27:45Hannah Berner?

  It's so hard being a light in this dark world.

• 27:48Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. And I've given, I'm, I'm this close to a panic attack. So don't push me. And so they know.

• 27:59Hannah Berner?

  So what do you have to say about me?

• 28:00Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, Miss Performative. Hannah's in the Zoom doing performative chin grabs. Like she's con- Like she's contemplating a goddamn thing. She also.

• 28:14Hannah Berner?

  I kept switching my chin position.

• 28:17Paige DeSorbo?

  I go, what are you Colonel Mustard in the library with a revolver? Like you're trying to look.

• 28:25Hannah Berner?

  Also, it's so crazy. I think everyone's watching me.

• 28:28Paige DeSorbo?

  Um, so.

• 28:29Hannah Berner?

  I like think people are watching me and I have to show them that they're doing well.

• 28:33Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 28:34Hannah Berner?

  Wait, also, do you know what I'm doing? I'm hiding my double chin.

• 28:38Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, the other thing that I think you do that literally could make me burst out laughing in any moment that I actually have to look away sometimes is you nod and it sounds, it sounds innocent enough, but she does it in a like, hey, that's a really good point. Never thought of that. And I'm like, they didn't even say anything.

• 28:55Hannah Berner?

  Okay, I'm an active listener. I'm, look, I'm an empath and when someone's speaking and no one's reacting. See, I know, you know how you feel for inanimate objects? That's how I feel for real people and no, like when they're talking and no one's reacting, I'm like, come on, someone has to give them a little positivity. So I, here's, but you know, that's why I don't like social situations because by the end, I've, I should win an Oscar.

• 29:20Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, I had, I have a team meeting every two weeks and last week I said, guys, what are we doing here? This is an off camera zoom. I get out of my face. Like, I don't.

• 29:31Hannah Berner?

  Were you there for our last off camera zoom?

• 29:33Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I'm the one that started it.

• 29:35Hannah Berner?

  And guess who didn't finish it?

• 29:38Paige DeSorbo?

  Who? You?

• 29:39Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, I showed up and didn't go off camera.

• 29:41Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I was the first one on with one other girl and I said, hey, you're either with me or you're against me. Turn your camera off. And she goes, I'm with you. Absolutely. Everybody else joins. They're go, oh, it's a no camera zoom. I go, excellent.

• 29:55Hannah Berner?

  Two minutes late.

• 29:56Paige DeSorbo?

  Hannah shows up, two minutes late, didn't have to do the intros and goes, I'm just gonna be camera on. I said, she's always a bomb.

• 30:02Hannah Berner?

  Well, I came out on camera and I just was like, wait, I love this attention. And then everyone was talking. I was nodding for them. But the truth is if I'm off camera, I can't trust myself. If I'm off camera, I'm playing tennis. Like if I'm off camera, I'm petting my cat. I'm not listening to anyone. But if I'm on camera, I have to look at least like I care and then you care more. Wait, I love how we just did. 20 minutes about Zoom calls, but I feel like it's relatable.

• 30:27Paige DeSorbo?

  No, that but that's like really pertinent to my everyday life, so.

• 30:30Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, like we use legal dargan in everyday life.

• 30:32Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, so.

• 30:34Hannah Berner?

  I love a little Zoom joke in the beginning and then I could calm down once I get the laugh.

• 30:37Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, my quiz joke was pretty good on that Zoom.

• 30:39Hannah Berner?

  That was really fucking funny. I always laugh a little too hard and everyone's like, okay.

• 30:44Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 30:44Hannah Berner?

  You guys know each other.

• 30:46Paige DeSorbo?

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• 31:28Paige DeSorbo?

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• 32:13Paige DeSorbo?

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• 32:58Paige DeSorbo?

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• 33:43Paige DeSorbo?

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• 34:25Paige DeSorbo?

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• 35:45Paige DeSorbo?

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• 36:26Paige DeSorbo?

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• 36:35Hannah Berner?

  So summer's upon us, which is crazy, but I was like looking at bathing suits and I love cheap bathing suits.

• 36:42Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 36:43Hannah Berner?

  But I don't know, because I'm not like doing a photo shoot in them. Like I'm just trying to be in the pool or the beach.

• 36:48Paige DeSorbo?

  You're playing games.

• 36:50Hannah Berner?

  I'm playing, yes, yes. Or I'm sprinting, I'm swimming, I'm racing, I'm doing, I'm a mermaid.

• 36:57Paige DeSorbo?

  You're doing activities.

• 36:58Hannah Berner?

  So.

• 36:59Paige DeSorbo?

  It's impossible to lay out with you.

• 37:02Hannah Berner?

  No.

• 37:03Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, you're not.

• 37:04Hannah Berner?

  No.

• 37:04Paige DeSorbo?

  You have to be actively engaged. The only time you can really lay out is if we're discussing something that we've discussed eight million times, but there's one new fact and we're beating that fact, beating that fact with a dead horse. Then you can lay and tan because you're actively doing something, but if it's like the same old shit, you're like, should I like hit a tennis ball and we'll talk about this?

• 37:31Hannah Berner?

  Well, the good thing about our friendship is it's eight years of drama. We can pull from so much.

• 37:36Paige DeSorbo?

  The archivals are.

• 37:39Hannah Berner?

  The archive is fucking good. And we rotate, but um, I got like some TikTok advertisement for a bikini that looked beautiful. I clicked it. A hundred and ninety-five dollars for not the full bikini, for the bottoms.

• 37:55Paige DeSorbo?

  What?

• 37:56Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, I mean, it's one of these like nice ones, but like, what is, it's underwear. What is in this bikini that's a hundred and ninety-five dollars and it's separate? So that's a four hundred dollar bikini? Make it make, as, okay, as a designer, as a fashion mogul, make it make sense to me. How do they get to those numbers?

• 38:15Paige DeSorbo?

  It's hard to justify because it's such a small piece of clothing.

• 38:21Hannah Berner?

  And what is it made out of that makes, like, isn't it just like?

• 38:23Paige DeSorbo?

  I would assume, I would assume it's probably mostly spandex.

• 38:28Hannah Berner?

  Is that like really pricey?

• 38:30Paige DeSorbo?

  No, but like, I don't know what swim material. I don't know how hard it is to make swim because I don't even know what that's like made of.

• 38:41Hannah Berner?

  I don't know. I think it's like a real rip. It's a real rip and someone.

• 38:44Paige DeSorbo?

  What were you shopping on? Do you remember what website? Or like, do you remember like?

• 38:48Hannah Berner?

  It was like a brand, like it was like a swim brand or it was like a clothing brand that had swim, but it was like, it was nice. Like it had like two hundred dollar dresses.

• 38:58Paige DeSorbo?

  Bathing suits are tough. Here's the thing that is hard to justify spending so much on bathing suits is because a lot of the time. Unless it's like a very good quality bathing suit, I would say a lot of the time after two summers, it's kind of like dingy and gross and you have to get a new one anyway.

• 39:19Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, it goes through it.

• 39:21Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, you go through them faster than other articles of clothing.

• 39:24Hannah Berner?

  You know what makes me mad? It's cuz it feels like they're pulling something over our eyes. Where that I'm like, what the fuck am I supposed to do with one weird colored bottom?

• 39:34Paige DeSorbo?

  You hate getting duped.

• 39:36Hannah Berner?

  Put it in a set. Put it, it's like being like, hey, this earring is two hundred dollars. This one earring, like obviously I need to buy the other earring.

• 39:45Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, one time I ordered earrings and it was, what was the brand? It was like a, it was like a brand that was, they had a store in the West Village, I think it was like super big at the time. Something like, it was like a woman's name, something like Tasha or like, I forget, whatever. And I'm like, and everyone's getting these like little mini dainty earrings and I'm like, I have to. So I go online and I like see the earrings that I want and I'm like, great, I'm gonna get this. It was like one ninety-five. I was like, that's insane, but like whatever. I get it, it comes in the mail, it's just one. And I'm like.

• 40:19Hannah Berner?

  Is this a fucking joke to you?

• 40:20Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm like, clearly someone like messed up, like the other earring and you like get on customer service and they're like, no, we send them, we sell them individual, like they thought I was stupid.

• 40:30Hannah Berner?

  Yeah. Yeah.

• 40:32Paige DeSorbo?

  And I didn't realize it was like because all, every girl was doing like multiple piercings. So they just send it like one, but I'm like, it's a, it's a pair. I have two ears.

• 40:42Hannah Berner?

  And meanwhile, men have three in one shampoo. But we're paying for, for one bikini bottom? How are we gonna take over the patriarchy when like we're out a month's rent for half a bikini?

• 40:55Paige DeSorbo?

  You know what's something that would send me into a coma now that I would have like died for in high school is men and earrings.

• 41:01Hannah Berner?

  I never went that gay.

• 41:07Paige DeSorbo?

  Someone say I've gone gay.

• 41:10Hannah Berner?

  No, you have. You have. And you have.

• 41:14Paige DeSorbo?

  And they were good friends.

• 41:15Hannah Berner?

  This is my question. Was it a little mini hoop? Was it a dangle?

• 41:20Paige DeSorbo?

  A stud.

• 41:21Hannah Berner?

  Which was a Gen Z or just a stud?

• 41:22Paige DeSorbo?

  Stud.

• 41:23Hannah Berner?

  Okay, there was a time where guys with one stud, he was naughty. You're like, that's a bad boy.

• 41:28Paige DeSorbo?

  One stud, no, I liked double. I liked, I liked cubic zirconium. All the way around.

• 41:38Hannah Berner?

  You would have loved the Staten Island guys. Like, you would have lost your mind at the Staten Island Mall in 2006. You would have been like dry humping at a Hot Topic.

• 41:49Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, you know what's funny is like, remember when Facebook came out and we had like, we're just like in the, kind of in the beginning of high school that like, we could have it? And did you ever like happen upon like your friends, cousins, boyfriend, sister who like lives in a different state? Like, I remember the first time I ever saw like a New Jersey prom, like on Facebook.

• 42:10Hannah Berner?

  You were like.

• 42:10Paige DeSorbo?

  And just being like.

• 42:11Hannah Berner?

  Heaven is real.

• 42:12Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait a minute. Like, I don't know what's going on in my body, but I like these guys.

• 42:19Hannah Berner?

  Well, it's funny because I heard that you're from Albany and I was like, oh, I didn't know they had Italians that like up north. I thought they all were in Brooklyn and New Jersey. I didn't know they made them in the cold like that.

• 42:32Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, because my family didn't come through Ellis Island.

• 42:36Hannah Berner?

  Do you think you're better than us?

• 42:37Paige DeSorbo?

  No.

• 42:38Hannah Berner?

  How did they get here then?

• 42:40Paige DeSorbo?

  My like great grandpa came over illegally as like a stowaway, but through like a port in Boston. And he had like a cousin in Albany. So that's how he ended up like.

• 42:51Hannah Berner?

  There's always a cousin.

• 42:51Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, it was like wherever you could get a job. And so we didn't have anyone in New York City yet. So no one.

• 42:57Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 42:57Paige DeSorbo?

  Lived there.

• 42:59Hannah Berner?

  Look at you with the historical facts.

• 43:01Paige DeSorbo?

  I mean, there's definitely like, there was definitely like a part of Albany that was all Italian at some point. No, I didn't like go to high, I didn't have like high school girlfriends that were Italian in the way I was Italian. Like, maybe they were a little Italian, but they didn't either like celebrate the way I did on holidays. And like their mom certainly didn't yell at them the way my mom did. So I'm like, she doesn't love you.

• 43:28Hannah Berner?

  I'm like, did you just tell your mom to shut up? That's crazy.

• 43:32Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I love the Jersey vibe and I also love, yeah, I don't know what age that changed. That I was like, I would never date someone with an, with two earrings, but now I'm like, that's so terrifying.

• 43:46Paige DeSorbo?

  Although the thought of like shit, being able to share earrings is nice.

• 43:51Paige DeSorbo?

  Everything I say, it's just like, Paige, you're a lesbian and you should come out. I'm like, but you could have the same wardrobe and that would be convenient. Cause I like said something and some girl made a TikTok and she was like, I literally said this right before I came out.

• 44:07Hannah Berner?

  Well, Paige and I were famously on the phone and I said to her, I feel like every friend group has a in the closet lesbian. And Paige said, not in my friend group. And I said, that's how you know. That you're the one.

• 44:24Paige DeSorbo?

  Guys, you think, you think I don't want this? I want this. My life would be so much easier.

• 44:31Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, I could see like, you know that one random like really girl girl dated Miley Cyrus? Like, if you did meet the right girl, you'd have like the happiest life, but I don't know if that's for this lifetime. I just know the right girl could sweep you off your feet.

• 44:43Paige DeSorbo?

  Here's the only reason, and dare I jump in on this convo. The only reason I say that I'm not is because from the moment I was little and I saw a boy, like I knew I loved boys. I genuinely think that's why my mom made me go to an all-girls high school because she knew I loved boys.

• 45:05Hannah Berner?

  Yeah. I also feel like if I came out, people would be like, boo, boring. It's like so much more exciting for you to come out.

• 45:11Paige DeSorbo?

  It would be so exciting.

• 45:12Hannah Berner?

  Cause I'm lesbian passing. I identify as straight, but I, I'm lesbian passing. And that's why like I'm so close to the community and not all gay guys like me. Even though I,

• 45:24Hannah Berner?

  cause they get lesbian vibes from me. But no, I had, there's a certain gay guy that is my heart and my soul.

• 45:30Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. You know, I've been hearing more and more people talking about gays, gays versus like girls gays.

• 45:36Hannah Berner?

  Really?

• 45:37Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, there was like a lot of discourse on TikTok, I feel like about how there was a guy, did you see the guy with the whole solid core thing?

• 45:46Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 45:49Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, so that that song I didn't, we talked about it like in the very beginning.

• 45:54Hannah Berner?

  Is it still going?

• 45:55Paige DeSorbo?

  Hannah, it's still going on. And I don't know all the details. If you want to look it up, I think it was in like Darien, Connecticut, I want to say.

• 46:02Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, it's this guy from Connecticut who who's like putting Solid Core on blast all the time.

• 46:07Paige DeSorbo?

  But it was this gay man who would go to Solid Core and he would go to like the earliest class every day and something happened. I think he like was recording the instructor and she might have been like late one day or something.

• 46:19Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 46:20Paige DeSorbo?

  And they were like, please don't like record the instructors, like, don't put this on the internet, whatever. And he was like, totally like, but like she was late. And then something else happened and he got in trouble for something else. And they emailed him and they were like, you can't do this. And he was like, totally like, so sorry about it. And then something else happened that like, he was like, I didn't do this. So now he's almost at like three strikes.

• 46:46Paige DeSorbo?

  The last thing he did, I guess, was he's in the parking lot before the class even starts early in the morning. Like, I think he goes to like the 6 a.m. So say they're in the parking lot at like 5:45.

• 46:58Hannah Berner?

  Also, that is when you should be in REM sleep. Nothing good happens before 7 a.m. or after 1 a.m.

• 47:04Paige DeSorbo?

  Nothing good ever happens before 7 a.m. And I guess he was like yelling the instructor's name and I don't, and I think the instructor kind of got a little like, wait, like, are you like really mad at me? Like, again, like, it is a man at the end of the day. And so like all these girls were making TikToks about like certain gay men that have been like really mean to them, whether it be like in their friend group or like in a work setting or something. And I'm like, yeah, it's happened to me a couple of times and it's very jarring because it's like, oh, but we get each other.

• 47:36Hannah Berner?

  You're like, you're supposed to be on my side. Can I talk to you for a second?

• 47:38Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 47:39Hannah Berner?

  There are some men, doesn't matter what sexuality they are, that

• 47:43Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 47:44Hannah Berner?

  are misogynistic. There's women who are misogynistic. So just keep an eye out in these streets.

• 47:49Paige DeSorbo?

  Obviously, gay men can relate to us on so many things. Like, I had this one friend who she was like, she was saying how one of her gay guy friends like said something about her being fat while she was pregnant. And she was like, and it just like, really?

• 48:06Hannah Berner?

  Iconic.

• 48:08Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm like, who was this gay?

• 48:13Paige DeSorbo?

  Let me meet him. But she was saying like it would like hurt her feelings. She's like, I'm so hormonal and he kept saying like, you have to be pregnant with twins. And she was like, and I'm not pregnant with twins.

• 48:26Hannah Berner?

  You're crying because that's going to be you.

• 48:29Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm going to cry so much. I already know. It's going to be so hard for me. I'm going to be in pain all day. All I think about is my short torso and that's because of you. I was never scared of that before.

• 48:39Hannah Berner?

  Paige, not to be too positive, but remember how much you loved raising your eggs and the hormones because you finally felt.

• 48:44Paige DeSorbo?

  Alive.

• 48:47Paige DeSorbo?

  I felt love. I felt true. No. I felt real feelings. Hitting it. I felt real feelings during that and that was scary.

• 48:54Hannah Berner?

  You were a girl's girl.

• 48:56Paige DeSorbo?

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• 49:41Paige DeSorbo?

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• 50:25Paige DeSorbo?

  but there's really never any planning behind it and you know I hate a workout class. That's why I've been loving the Ladder app. I can open it and my workout is already planned and I can do it anywhere. You have an expert coach and you know exactly what exercises you're doing, how many sets, how many reps, and the in-ear coaching gives you cues and motivation throughout the workout. It genuinely feels like you have a personal trainer in your headphones. I've been using this for a while now and I also feel and see myself getting stronger each day because of Ladder. I have also been eyeing their Pilates workout routines for a little while now, so that will definitely be my next workout venture. And for less than $1 a day, you can't beat it. And I love that Ladder remembers my weights, reps, and sets because I can actually see my progress instead of wondering whether I'm doing it all correctly.

• 51:11Paige DeSorbo?

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• 51:34Hannah Berner?

  Gigglers, the holidays are coming and Arm and Hammer Hardball Cat Litter and I are making sure all my fellow cat parents are guest-ready. You guys know I'm obsessed with cats, I'm a cat missionary and make sure everyone in my life has a cat and I'm doing really well at it. I foster and I'm constantly trying to help cats find homes and around the holidays, I basically want everyone I know to fall in love with a cat and take one home. But the holidays, you guys are hosting, you have your cat, and you have such a to-do list, you know? Hiding things in closets, pretending you're clean, pulling out the snacks. One thing I do not need to add to that list is worrying about cat smell. Arm and Hammer Hardball Cat Litter keeps odors under control and forms compact clumps that make cleanup easy, so that part is already handled in the background.

• 52:17Hannah Berner?

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• 52:28Paige DeSorbo?

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• 53:12Paige DeSorbo?

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• 53:41Hannah Berner?

  I've also had gay men fight for me like I've never been fought for. I had actually a beautiful moment with a gay gler where I was in LA at a coffee shop.

• 53:53Hannah Berner?

  Scared. And there was one beautiful man just standing there. And I was like, wow, he thinks I'm so good looking. And then he came up to me. And he was like, I just have to let you know, I love your comedy because on Netflix, there's not a lot of like gay male representation. So, like your feminine comedy is like the closest I can relate to because I don't relate to other comics. And he was like, and through you, I've been introduced to other like queer comics and artists. And like, thank you for being a voice like that we needed. And I was like, so am Lady Gaga.

• 54:28Hannah Berner?

  If there's one gay man in my audience, I go, it's really hard being Lady Gaga.

• 54:34Hannah Berner?

  And being the voice of a community.

• 54:37Paige DeSorbo?

  Hannah, you in a meat dress, I feel like is... You should do that one year for Halloween.

• 54:43Hannah Berner?

  But also, like, being straight is so boring. All I want to be is an ally to more interesting people.

• 54:51Hannah Berner?

  It's all I want in this world.

• 54:52Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, you want to know why being straight is annoying? Because it's so predictable. You got married, you had kids, and then you cheated. Yeah, we saw that coming. You know, it's just like, our lives are so predictable. Where the gays, they go out, they're doing things with different people. They're like, they're all over the place.

• 55:11Hannah Berner?

  Also, they're naturally traumatized because they were told by society that, like, what they do isn't the norm. So they're naturally been through shit that made them grow, which makes them hilarious. So, anyway, just reminding all the gagglers how much we love you and any man that's in the closet listening right now.

• 55:31Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, what are you doing for the holiday weekend? Do you have any plans?

• 55:34Hannah Berner?

  Oh, Lenore's visiting. And she's getting a mini petty right now, and she watched me play paddle. And we might take... Well, she loves a mental health walk. Lenore loves it, and she goes fast. She goes fast. Also, we're going to Vegas for the American Music Awards.

• 55:51Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, fun!

• 55:52Hannah Berner?

  Because you had a wedding.

• 55:53Paige DeSorbo?

  Yes, I do. I have a wedding in the middle of the week.

• 55:55Hannah Berner?

  I do have to say, I did find out I do have one wedding, because it seems kind of depressing me being like, I have no weddings. And then I felt like everyone was like, talking about me like, oh, she doesn't have any friends. There's a wedding that doesn't tell me about, that I am invited to.

• 56:08Paige DeSorbo?

  So not your friend, God.

• 56:12Hannah Berner?

  Sorry, all my friends are sluts. Sorry, they're all business sluts who don't want paperwork involved.

• 56:19Paige DeSorbo?

  Sorry, my friends have rejected the patriarchy.

• 56:22Hannah Berner?

  Sorry, my friends haven't settled.

• 56:24Paige DeSorbo?

  Yes.

• 56:24Hannah Berner?

  Sorry, I'm the only friend who's got paperwork involved. Did you see Sports Illustrated? They were like, um, Alex Earl, can you ask Hannah some questions about dating? And I was like, oh my, like, what am I gonna say to Alex Earl about dating? I'm like, ask Alex Earl. Like, I've literally haven't sent a, like, a good flirty text in a minute. Even though back in my day.

• 56:45Paige DeSorbo?

  But you still have it in you.

• 56:47Hannah Berner?

  I have it in me, and I do, um, moonlight for a lot of relationships. But like, I haven't put myself out there, obviously, but she was asking me questions about dating. And then at the end, I was like, I'm fucking married. I don't have to, I don't have to be defensive about that. I'm married. So I, you have to listen to what I say anyway. Okay, one of the questions was funny. They were like, do you wait to text back or not? And I think I actually had kind of a good answer, cuz I feel like waiting to text back, yeah, do it a little bit, but it becomes too exhausting to be like, did I hit the hour mark? I think you text back immediately with typos. So he's like, she like, she's busy, but also like, she clearly doesn't give a fuck.

• 57:30Hannah Berner?

  She responded immediately and spelled everything wrong. Like, she never, she didn't send this to all her friends. And I think there's something confident about that, and you get the conversation going.

• 57:38Paige DeSorbo?

  That was a great answer.

• 57:39Hannah Berner?

  I hate when you're in these like, four hour text things with guys where I'm like, I don't even know anything about him cuz we've only, we're playing this like, game. I'm like, we're all on our phones.

• 57:49Paige DeSorbo?

  Everyone, all the time.

• 57:51Hannah Berner?

  Everyone. But I said I wouldn't double text.

• 57:54Paige DeSorbo?

  I mean, I've definitely done it.

• 57:56Hannah Berner?

  I've done it, like, if it's like, we're texting during the day and then like, I'm out. But I'm not like, continuing a conversation.

• 58:03Paige DeSorbo?

  No, like, I'm not asking the next question. Like, if a, like, if a natural question is to follow, like, then I'll say it. But if the conversation has come to a halt, I'm not reigniting it with a question.

• 58:19Hannah Berner?

  Or, like, if I said something really dud, like, if I just said okay to something, then you can continue it as just like, being nice. Also, if he's your soulmate, you could literally send him a paragraph about how you wanna have his babies, and he'll be like, cool, same.

• 58:35Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, you can never act too crazy for the right guy, ever. Me and Hannah are very much in the true belief of traumatize them early, see what they can handle. See how strong they are.

• 58:45Hannah Berner?

  Yes.

• 58:46Paige DeSorbo?

  And then you can weed it out really quickly.

• 58:48Hannah Berner?

  Speaking of, woman of some of the week.

• 58:51Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, before we get to women of the week.

• 58:53Hannah Berner?

  Sorry, I got ahead of myself.

• 58:55Paige DeSorbo?

  I've had so many girls messaging me, cosmetologists who have learned the art of the gray hair, honey. And a lot of them said, it's a myth, that it's not that if you pluck one out, five will grow in its place. It's that the belief that is that you are damaging, damaging the follicle, okay? And that that.

• 59:22Hannah Berner?

  Causes it to grow back a little weird?

• 59:24Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I forgot what it's.

• 59:27Paige DeSorbo?

  That you've just lost melanin, that like it's growing. Like it's not gonna grow five more back, but like that follicle, it's gonna grow gray because you've lost melanin.

• 59:40Hannah Berner?

  But it was already gray.

• 59:41Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, my girls were like, pluck away.

• 59:44Hannah Berner?

  Okay, so it's funny, whenever we say we're confused about anything, we get tons of messages from gigglers. And I was telling Dez, I'm like, oh my god, we get so many messages from like doctors, he's like, who's messaged you? I'm like, people are like, hey, I'm a surgeon at NYU Langone, I was just listening to Giggly Squad. But I did get one message that threw me. This girl said that she's our women instead of the week. She is a twin, and she said, they did their own study. On the ground, boots on the ground journalism, and said that she plucked her grays and her twin didn't. And she has more grays. So that threw me, that threw me. Threw me off, but I'm still plucking, what do you, because what are you doing if you're not plucking?

• 1:00:29Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, a lot of girls were just giving like different root sprays that they use.

• 1:00:34Hannah Berner?

  Or, I just wanna go full gray with thick tortoiseshell glasses and a cape and just like walk around like talk a shit about everything.

• 1:00:43Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, but not like our thirties.

• 1:00:46Hannah Berner?

  No, more like.

• 1:00:47Paige DeSorbo?

  Like our sixties.

• 1:00:51Hannah Berner?

  But our woman of some of the week runner up is Shakira.

• 1:00:56Paige DeSorbo?

  Yes.

• 1:00:57Hannah Berner?

  Do you know what Shakira did?

• 1:00:58Paige DeSorbo?

  Yes.

• 1:00:58Hannah Berner?

  Wait, do you want to tell them?

• 1:00:59Paige DeSorbo?

  So a couple of years ago, I don't know if you guys remember, but Shakira was accused of tax fraud in Spain. And she literally proved the court wrong and was like, give me back my my 10 million dollars, I think. Is like they seized or something or froze.

• 1:01:15Hannah Berner?

  I actually didn't know about this part.

• 1:01:16Paige DeSorbo?

  And so she like proved that she didn't commit tax fraud. And they were like, okay, yeah, you're right. We're wrong.

• 1:01:22Hannah Berner?

  Not to be controversial, but.

• 1:01:23Paige DeSorbo?

  Sounds like an inside job. Sounds something, something fishy was going on.

• 1:01:27Hannah Berner?

  Can girls commit tax fraud?

• 1:01:28Paige DeSorbo?

  No.

• 1:01:29Hannah Berner?

  I don't think we should pay full, we should pay 70% tax.

• 1:01:35Hannah Berner?

  If women were in charge of politics, that would be the first, would there be no pink tax? Like, why are we getting taxed the most when we make the least?

• 1:01:41Paige DeSorbo?

  It kind of is crazy that feminine products are taxed.

• 1:01:44Hannah Berner?

  No woman would have thought of that.

• 1:01:46Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:47Hannah Berner?

  Some old man, but um, I'll add that to why she's woman of some of the week. But my reasoning was so her ex who cheated on her is like a soccer player or football. And she's the face of the World Cup.

• 1:02:06Hannah Berner?

  So iconic. So iconic. So whatever your ex is doing, find a way to be the face of it. It's not that hard. Just like put your mind to it for a couple of years.

• 1:02:14Paige DeSorbo?

  It's honestly, it's not that hard.

• 1:02:18Hannah Berner?

  Imagine everywhere he goes, it's just her face and her songs. And people are going to the game just to see her.

• 1:02:24Paige DeSorbo?

  Hell, yeah.

• 1:02:25Hannah Berner?

  So respect to that, because you know that her team was probably like, you could do this. You don't have to. You're ready. An icon. You don't need to work this summer. And she's like, yeah, I do.

• 1:02:34Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I do.

• 1:02:34Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, I do. Clear my plans. I definitely do. Um, and the documentary I recommend everyone watch is the Kylie Minogue documentary.

• 1:02:43Paige DeSorbo?

  What's that on?

• 1:02:45Hannah Berner?

  It's on Netflix. It's three episodes. I don't think they they talked about how good her style was. And one thing I'm very jealous of Kylie Minogue for, she's first of all.

• 1:02:57Paige DeSorbo?

  I think it's Mino.

• 1:03:00Hannah Berner?

  I I'm gonna have to say Mino to that.

• 1:03:05Hannah Berner?

  I hate my, no, I hate myself. I think it's Minogue.

• 1:03:09Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay.

• 1:03:09Hannah Berner?

  It's not Minogu either.

• 1:03:11Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I knew that. And it's not Montague.

• 1:03:14Hannah Berner?

  No, that's a whole different.

• 1:03:16Paige DeSorbo?

  Family.

• 1:03:16Hannah Berner?

  Whole different word. Yeah. It's just a different word. But you can say Minogue to bring it back to the beginning. Like if that's what your heart is, is singing.

• 1:03:24Paige DeSorbo?

  We should double check on it.

• 1:03:25Hannah Berner?

  So the thing with Kylie Minogue, do you know that she's, I think Kylie Minogue, she started in Australia, that's where she was born. On a soap opera. That blew up. Like, everyone was obsessed with it. It spread to the UK, it spread to Ireland. And then she decided she wanted to do some singing and everyone was like, you can't be a singer, you're an actor. And she was like, I'm nineteen years old. I love, I love music. I've always loved music. And it just reminded me how much like people want to put people in boxes.

• 1:03:56Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 1:03:57Hannah Berner?

  Cause I hate being put in a box. Like the second I'm in a box, I try to like do the other thing.

• 1:04:01Paige DeSorbo?

  Will you try and break the box?

• 1:04:03Hannah Berner?

  Yes. And I do think people can't comprehend that just because you started somewhere, that's not where you wanted to end. And a lot of the time when you do something that's not even what you planned and then they put a fucking stamp on your forehead and they're like, this is who you are now. So she was like, yeah, I was auditioning for gigs to make money, but like I always wanted to be a singer. Like I actually never wanted to be a soap opera actress. And she's so fucking beautiful and, and she hasn't gotten work done, which makes her like so, like you can't look away because she's unique looking. And what I'm so jol서 for about, this bitch can pull off every hair color. And every hair length. From a shaved head, bright blonde, blue, black.

• 1:04:46Paige DeSorbo?

  How old is she?

• 1:04:48Hannah Berner?

  She's now fifty-seven and she's on like a full world tour. Her career was insane and I love a music documentary. I just like eat that shit up.

• 1:05:00Paige DeSorbo?

  You love a music documentary? Do you know, I haven't watched one music documentary that you've told me to watch.

• 1:05:05Hannah Berner?

  Why, why do you do this to me?

• 1:05:07Paige DeSorbo?

  Because I feel like you've watched it. So you've informed us enough for the both of us. So if we ever run into this person someday, you'll got, you literally have us covered.

• 1:05:17Hannah Berner?

  I'll be like, she thought your name was Minogue.

• 1:05:20Hannah Berner?

  Embarrassing.

• 1:05:21Paige DeSorbo?

  I think it might be.

• 1:05:22Hannah Berner?

  Are you watching anything?

• 1:05:23Paige DeSorbo?

  Am I watching anything? No, honestly, TV has sucked recently, I feel like.

• 1:05:27Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, what the hellie?

• 1:05:28Paige DeSorbo?

  I don't know, the streaming platforms, guys. Did you clock out? Like, what's going on? There's no shows. Everything is, like, I know that we are feminists because we are alive, but every show feels so geared toward men. That I'm like, uh, like, I don't care about, like, this drug deal gone wrong. One thing I wanted to say about your special is, like, the Utah girls must have been like, um, who did Hannah's hair? It was giving full Mormon wife, but like, she doesn't wear her undergarments, like naughty.

• 1:06:09Hannah Berner?

  Jesse from Mormon Wives commented.

• 1:06:10Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm sure she did, what'd she say?

• 1:06:12Hannah Berner?

  She was like, "I can't wait to watch," and she definitely was like, "That's my sister."

• 1:06:17Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I was like, "Where is Hannah's long blue dress and seven kids?" Because you were giving Mormon, that hair was giving Jay-Z styles.

• 1:06:27Hannah Berner?

  Could you hand in page, try new things Mormon?

• 1:06:31Hannah Berner?

  Just one day.

• 1:06:32Paige DeSorbo?

  Or just like any cult.

• 1:06:36Paige DeSorbo?

  You're like, "I think she's slipping, I think she's slipping."

• 1:06:39Hannah Berner?

  It's really hard to be in a cult if you have stomach problems like I do because it's like, communit bathroom, and you can't get up during the group, like, chanting. Because I get mad at you, so I'm like, I'm like, kind of past the cult stuff.

• 1:06:52Paige DeSorbo?

  I just also like, need to be alone for a certain amount of hours a day, and so like, don't tell me what to do, because I'll have to like, kill you.

• 1:06:59Paige DeSorbo?

  So, like, no, I'm not in your cult. Anyhow, I hope everyone has a lovely holiday weekend.

• 1:07:05Hannah Berner?

  For giggling with us, have a great weekend, we love you so much. Bye!