Trumps OBSESSED w/ Greenland, How to Fix ICE, & Religion with the Hottest Women

YERRR – the boys are back and breaking down everything from Mark’s new liberal mom to Michael Jackson’s guilt, with some ICE hypotheticals, and Mormon conspiraces inbetween. All that and more on this week’s episode of FLAGRANT. INDULGE. 0:00 Mark's mom's a LIB + Swedish testimony 5:05 Got to hide migrants 6:44 Don Lemon Church rally + Migrant in Black face 12:42 We need to shut ICE + Kiryas Joel 16:11 B&H is amazing & it's their fault 17:52 Hasidics don't know + Silent Mile 21:01 Where should we be? Mamdani's NYC + Knicks are BAD 23:56 Shoutout to Weezy! Salt Lake City is GREAT 26:26 RHOSLC is AMAZING + K-hole treatment 30:09 Landman + Hot women drives religion 33:22 She's 17 in the show + Blue Monday or MLK Day 38:02 Sharing chapstick + Digging in there 43:00 Indiana, Curt Cignetti & Abella Danger 50:10 Sin Tax + Trump's unhinged imperialism 55:41 Honoring ancestors with Burger King 58:25 Salmon sushi is NEW 1:02:49 Legit daycares in MN + Remove monetization 1:08:35 FYP is so bad + Mother Teresa 1:11:07 Play-offs, "Vroom, vroom" + Patel Cartel 1:17:07 Shout-out Mexicans, Hybrids + What's wrong Miles? 1:18:56 Watch this play + Championship games 1:23:51 Michael Jackson - did he do it or not? 1:26:13 Old people with screens + Bodycam footage 1:27:43 Internet is cooked + TV comeback 2:32:58 Ben Affleck = SMART + Matt Damon on phone viewing 1:42:55 Vertical tv shows will take over This episode is sponsored by Kalshi. This episode is sponsored by Sesh. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• 1:15Speaker 04

  My mom's complaining that she, uh, she lost all of her friends on Facebook because she's liberal. Because she's like a liberal now?

• 1:21Speaker 05

  Wait, what do you mean?

• 1:22Speaker 04

  Whoa, whoa, whoa, what?

• 1:23Speaker 05

  What, what? This is huge. Can we start the episode?

• 1:25Speaker 04

  Yeah, because my mom's now a lib.

• 1:28Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 1:28Speaker 04

  Because she's horseshoeed.

• 1:29Speaker 05

  Start.

• 1:30Speaker 04

  She's like, she's like, "All of my, all my MAGA friends, don't, don't mess with me anymore because I'm, I'm libbed out." And I'm like, "Why are you libbed out?" She's like, "Well, I just, you know, I'm like talking against like ICE and like foreign intervention and like foreign wars." And she's like...

• 1:42Speaker 05

  Let's go.

• 1:42Speaker 04

  Yes. She's like, "This is wrong." And all of her MAGA friends are disowning her.

• 1:47Speaker 05

  Wow.

• 1:47Speaker 04

  And she's like, "But the liberals don't like me either because I think that like Satan is in charge of, uh, the world." So she's just kind of, uh, she's kind of stuck.

• 1:56Speaker 05

  When did she get anti ICE? Because I assumed she would love them.

• 1:59Speaker 04

  No, she told me the other day, she was like, "I would hide migrants in my house."

• 2:03Speaker 05

  Wow! Yo, wouldn't you?

• 2:06Speaker 04

  Miss Gags, let's go. But she's always been on that wave, like she's like...

• 2:09Speaker 05

  Wouldn't you also, though?

• 2:10Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:14Speaker 06

  That's crazy. Puerto Rico is part of America.

• 2:19Speaker 06

  I don't know what to do for y'all. No, wouldn't you like if you knew them? Like, if it's someone you know, someone you care about, somebody to work with? A hundred percent. They're caviar, yeah. No, strangers.

• 2:30Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah, that's... But she means strangers. She means she would take them...

• 2:35Speaker 04

  Yeah, I think she does. I think she means strangers. Like, assuming like, like, they're good, like, they're not like legit violent.

• 2:40Speaker 06

  She was having fucking people she doesn't even know in the house. But when it comes to an actual person that you, that you care about.

• 2:46Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah, absolutely.

• 2:47Speaker 06

  And like, you heard ICE was coming, and they were like, "Yo, I gotta stay inside." You're gonna whistle? No, you would fucking...

• 2:51Speaker 05

  Yeah, absolutely.

• 2:52Speaker 06

  You're like, "Yo, chill." And if somebody was like, "Is anybody here?", you say, "No."

• 2:55Speaker 04

  Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 2:56Speaker 06

  Then you ask for a discount on that landscaping. You would lie?

• 2:59Speaker 04

  Probably.

• 3:00Speaker 05

  You'll miss his last line.

• 3:03Speaker 04

  What'd you say? Hold on, no, no.

• 3:05Speaker 05

  It's okay. Don't worry about it.

• 3:07Speaker 06

  For the good people, for the good people listening.

• 3:10Speaker 04

  You're gonna really make me replay the episode to find out?

• 3:11Speaker 06

  Yeah, that's it. You gotta replay the episode to find out. I'll probably repeat it again later.

• 3:15Speaker 04

  Oh, no.

• 3:16Speaker 06

  Let me get that, uh, that drink.

• 3:18Speaker 05

  No, you would lie. I don't know if Mark could lie. His conscience is too guilty.

• 3:21Speaker 06

  That's what I'm saying. How would you get around the lie?

• 3:23Speaker 04

  You can omit. You can omit. What's the question?

• 3:25Speaker 05

  Are you hiding migrants in your house?

• 3:27Speaker 04

  No.

• 3:27Speaker 06

  No.

• 3:28Speaker 05

  Oh, okay.

• 3:29Speaker 04

  They're not hiding, they're working. They're literally cleaning my mess.

• 3:33Speaker 06

  Also, they've already migrated.

• 3:34Speaker 04

  Yeah, exactly, yeah, yeah.

• 3:35Speaker 06

  I'm hiding migrateds.

• 3:36Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 3:37Speaker 06

  You know what I mean?

• 3:38Speaker 04

  There's also, migrants almost implies legal. These are illegal immigrants. You know what I mean?

• 3:42Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 3:42Speaker 06

  Also, you don't know that they're illegal.

• 3:44Speaker 04

  I don't, yeah, I don't know.

• 3:45Speaker 06

  Don't ask, don't tell. That's another thing.

• 3:46Speaker 04

  Mm-hmm.

• 3:46Speaker 05

  Oh, valid.

• 3:47Speaker 06

  You don't know that they're illegal.

• 3:48Speaker 04

  I don't know where they're born, I don't know what their deal is, but...

• 3:51Speaker 05

  Gay illegals. Don't ask, don't tell.

• 3:52Speaker 04

  There's some people in my house. That's all you need to know.

• 3:53Speaker 06

  Nah, that's good. You gotta hide, you gotta hide them.

• 3:55Speaker 04

  Mm, yeah.

• 3:56Speaker 06

  Is there anyone in your house besides you?

• 3:59Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 4:01Speaker 06

  Who are they?

• 4:02Speaker 04

  My wife.

• 4:04Speaker 05

  And?

• 4:05Speaker 04

  No one else to my knowledge.

• 4:07Speaker 05

  You're a liar, you son.

• 4:08Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, that's a lie.

• 4:09Speaker 04

  Oh, also, well, I don't know, I don't know where he's at, honestly, I don't know, I don't know where, that's a good ass point. I forgot. But then I'd be like, yeah, no, also my kid. Yeah, and then I would just leave it at that. You gotta do it, dude, come on now. All human beings are worthy of human dignity.

• 4:24Speaker 06

  Would I do what?

• 4:24Speaker 05

  Yeah, he would.

• 4:25Mark Gagnon?

  Would you hide some migrants?

• 4:26Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 4:27Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, you hide a couple right now.

• 4:28Speaker 05

  He would lie, the way he lied to get you out of Swiss jail? Or Swedish prison or whatever it was, he would lie like that. He would be the best liar.

• 4:35Speaker 06

  I ain't even lie.

• 4:37Speaker 04

  Wait.

• 4:37Speaker 05

  Well, I thought you said you lied for him this whole time.

• 4:39Speaker 06

  I said the black guy did it. That's why he was in jail in the first place, they came up trying to arrest me, I was like, I think it's that guy over there.

• 4:45Speaker 04

  He just infiltrated your country. You really went first, dude.

• 4:49Mark Gagnon?

  Technically, he did lie, because the guy was claiming that, um, I hit him like fifteen times.

• 4:53Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 4:54Mark Gagnon?

  And he's like, he basically was like, look at him.

• 4:58Mark Gagnon?

  Take an Alga, this is a fifteen, son. He's hitting him with fifteen punches in like two seconds or some shit like that.

• 5:05Speaker 04

  And then he reenacted it?

• 5:06Mark Gagnon?

  He counted, yeah, he reenacted, he was like, one, two, this is on the stand, by the way.

• 5:14Speaker 06

  I did swing. And I had my form good, too, because I was like, this is being recorded, I can't have this out here in the streets.

• 5:20Mark Gagnon?

  Were you in a suit?

• 5:21Speaker 06

  Say again?

• 5:22Mark Gagnon?

  Were you in a suit?

• 5:22Speaker 06

  Nah, I don't think I was in a suit.

• 5:24Mark Gagnon?

  Couldn't even show up in a suit.

• 5:25Speaker 06

  Yeah. What am I gonna buy a suit in Sweden?

• 5:28Mark Gagnon?

  They wear suits?

• 5:29Speaker 06

  Yeah, that's a good point. I showed up with the wooden shoes, I, I had the country roll.

• 5:35Mark Gagnon?

  They're like, sir, why are you wearing clogs to the corner? Isn't this professionalism?

• 5:39Speaker 04

  Yeah, that's what you guys do.

• 5:39Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 5:40Speaker 04

  Did you bob and weave while you were in there?

• 5:41Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 5:42Speaker 04

  You're like, bang, bang, slip, bang, bang, bang, bang.

• 5:45Speaker 06

  Raise your epithet.

• 5:46Mark Gagnon?

  The way he throws a punch.

• 5:50Speaker 06

  He's a lover, bro.

• 5:51Mark Gagnon?

  I know, he's a lover.

• 5:52Speaker 04

  You gotta, you gotta make them underestimate you, okay, you gotta make them underestimate you. People are watching me, they're like, oh, he can't punch, and then they try to slide on me in the street, and then all of a sudden you hit him with the bang, bang.

• 6:00Speaker 05

  You're talking about Jesus.

• 6:03Speaker 04

  Oh, was that a jab or a hook? I'm glad you asked.

• 6:07Speaker 06

  You have to prepare for something that doesn't exist.

• 6:09Speaker 04

  That's phenomenal strategy right there, Mark. You never have to get ready if you're staying not ready.

• 6:13Speaker 06

  Exactly.

• 6:14Speaker 04

  That's smart, right?

• 6:15Speaker 05

  You would pack that thing, though, I feel.

• 6:17Speaker 04

  Oh, I hit him with the gla gla boom. If you got a gla gla boom on.

• 6:20Speaker 06

  What the? No, you gotta hide some migrants, dude, you have to.

• 6:24Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 6:24Speaker 06

  You got to. Now, if you don't know them, it's tricky. Right? Because...

• 6:30Speaker 05

  They're gonna make you convert to Islam.

• 6:33Speaker 04

  That's a good point. That's a good point.

• 6:35Speaker 05

  They're gonna radicalize you.

• 6:36Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 6:36Speaker 05

  That's what you gotta worry about.

• 6:38Speaker 06

  You think they tried that with Aunt Frank at all? You think at any point they were up there like, yo, if you just wanna be Christian?

• 6:44Speaker 05

  There's a quick fix!

• 6:45Speaker 06

  If you just wanna choose up, it probably will be good. But wait a minute, Hitler wasn't religious at all.

• 6:51Speaker 04

  No.

• 6:52Speaker 06

  The Catholics were getting it, the Jews were getting it.

• 6:55Speaker 05

  Oh, Catholics were getting it?

• 6:56Speaker 04

  Yeah, Maximilian Kolbe, I'm glad you asked, he's a Catholic priest. So he was in a concentration camp that gave up, uh, his spot for freedom in the place of someone that was, uh, sentenced to death.

• 7:05Speaker 06

  That's how annoying it is to be around that many Jews. Is that what you're saying? Is that what you're saying? I'm like, he's just like, "I got it! I got it, get me out of here!"

• 7:14Speaker 05

  Oh, my God.

• 7:15Speaker 06

  It's too much backgammon.

• 7:17Speaker 04

  I forget exactly who it was, but they sent him free and then they were like, "But this kid is gonna die," or like a woman or something like that. And he was like, "I'll take their place." And then he died in, uh, in the, in the place of someone.

• 7:27Speaker 05

  You believe that shit?

• 7:27Speaker 04

  No, he believes it.

• 7:28Speaker 05

  You believe that shit?

• 7:29Speaker 04

  Look it up. Look it up.

• 7:30Speaker 05

  They can make up any story, what's evidence?

• 7:33Speaker 04

  Who can make up stories?

• 7:34Speaker 06

  Wait a minute, this is, this is interesting.

• 7:35Speaker 04

  He believes the Bible, so...

• 7:40Speaker 06

  Can we not talk about the whole, "Who are you, Don Lemon?" I'm gonna disrespect the congregation, Al! How's that gonna disrespect the congregation?

• 7:49Speaker 04

  Nah, you can't talk about my gay brethren like that.

• 7:53Speaker 06

  So what?

• 7:56Speaker 05

  Bypass the whole black thing, by the way, when you're talking about brethren.

• 7:59Speaker 06

  So, so what, what happened? They busted in this church because one of the pastors apparently like has the same name as someone who is an ICE official?

• 8:09Speaker 04

  Is that what it was?

• 8:10Speaker 06

  I don't even know if they confirmed it's the same guy. So they were protesting, I guess, the church, but it wasn't even the pastor that was doing the service right there. So...

• 8:20Speaker 05

  Yeah, well, imagine, dude, you're just trying to give a nice little church service, help some people, and then you're a fucking racist and you're like, "No, it's the other guy that..."

• 8:31Speaker 06

  But we, I don't even think they've confirmed that the other guy is an actual ICE official. Oh. But it is kinda funny that like, the protesters are doing the same thing ICE is doing.

• 8:43Speaker 06

  That they're just busting into places like, "We want him, get him out, where is he?" He looks like one of them. Yeah. He looks like a racist. Yeah.

• 8:50Speaker 04

  This is why all ICE people need their names on their badges. Cause now you're getting people mixed up in the crosshairs.

• 8:55Speaker 06

  Talk to me.

• 8:56Speaker 04

  Cause if they're like, I don't know, apparently like they're not named. Like apparently they don't have like-

• 9:00Speaker 06

  Well, yeah, they got the, the shysties on.

• 9:02Speaker 04

  Exactly.

• 9:03Speaker 06

  It's insane.

• 9:04Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 9:04Speaker 06

  Right? It is insane.

• 9:05Speaker 04

  Yeah. Yeah, it's a tough look.

• 9:07Speaker 06

  And I think that like, because we don't see it in New York.

• 9:11Speaker 06

  Like we're like somewhat detached from, New Yorkers would not be going with this shit at all. Well, didn't they find-

• 9:16Mark Gagnon?

  That happening- Canal, and we weren't with that shit and we were like-

• 9:20Speaker 06

  No, no, well Canal's fine, but they wouldn't be fine with it happening. Listen, Canal, we gotta clean some stuff up.

• 9:28Speaker 04

  That's how this shit works.

• 9:30Speaker 06

  New Yorkers not gonna be okay with it. Forty Second Street, get the Pikachus out of there. But nah, do, I mean-

• 9:37Speaker 05

  Pikachu, what about the kiddie pool full of fucking live fish? That's not, we just gotta let that stand?

• 9:41Speaker 06

  That's on Mott. That's on Mott Street.

• 9:44Speaker 05

  Oh, that's not Chinatown?

• 9:45Mark Gagnon?

  And it's called the lunch.

• 9:47Speaker 04

  Also that.

• 9:48Speaker 06

  Yeah, what do you think you're eating down there?

• 9:50Speaker 05

  Just get it off the fucking street, man, just put it inside.

• 9:52Speaker 06

  Yeah, it is a little peculiar to have the food out there, but um-

• 9:55Speaker 04

  I kinda like it, New York really does have the best-

• 9:57Speaker 06

  You like ICE?

• 9:58Speaker 04

  No, no, hold on, no, no, no, the migrants, my New York migrants in particular.

• 10:02Speaker 06

  Yeah. We have the best everything.

• 10:04Speaker 04

  Selling bags, you know what I mean?

• 10:05Speaker 06

  Got the best everything.

• 10:06Speaker 04

  It's great.

• 10:07Speaker 06

  We got the best everything.

• 10:08Speaker 04

  Also, have you even bought a bag from a Chinese lady that takes you down the alleyway? Have you ever done this?

• 10:13Speaker 06

  He buying, he buying bags?

• 10:15Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 10:16Speaker 06

  Just say you got a fucking hand job, bro. Why is this, oh, I really got a Michael Kors bag. Also, you could buy a real Michael Kors bag. Who's buying a fake Michael Kors bag? Yo, hold on.

• 10:30Speaker 06

  It's like buying fake Ray-Bans.

• 10:32Speaker 04

  I swear to God, this is like, maybe high school, maybe early college, I went and bought a fake Michael Kors bag.

• 10:38Speaker 06

  First you gotta lick your lips, bro, cause you got the sesh powder all over your lips.

• 10:41Speaker 04

  Dude, my lips been so dry since Salt Lake City, for real, I can't smile cause they're gonna crack.

• 10:45Speaker 05

  Oh, cause you went snowboarding, right?

• 10:46Speaker 04

  Yeah, dude, I'm gonna have a chat, for real.

• 10:47Speaker 06

  Okay, go on, go on.

• 10:48Speaker 04

  But uh, how bad is it?

• 10:51Speaker 06

  Use your saliva, dude.

• 10:52Speaker 04

  No, no, I'm gonna do this.

• 10:53Speaker 06

  What the fuck is happening?

• 10:56Speaker 04

  My lips are cracking.

• 11:00Speaker 05

  Have you bought chapstick this whole time?

• 11:02Speaker 04

  Yeah. Oh, please, yes. Oh, you're a legend.

• 11:05Speaker 06

  Yeah, no.

• 11:09Mark Gagnon?

  That's all ice. That's bad.

• 11:11Speaker 06

  That's bad black. He got vaxxed.

• 11:14Speaker 04

  The mini one.

• 11:15Speaker 06

  The finger one, too.

• 11:16Speaker 04

  The mini one.

• 11:16Speaker 06

  That's crazy.

• 11:17Speaker 05

  Mine has a very black habit. He uses a washcloth.

• 11:19Speaker 06

  I know.

• 11:19Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 11:20Speaker 05

  Yeah, that he wants to know his enemies.

• 11:21Speaker 06

  Wait a minute, hold on. Finish your story. You're in Salt Lake. Sorry, finish your story. I'll reward you. Finish your story.

• 11:26Speaker 04

  Damn. Damn, right?

• 11:28Speaker 06

  We know how you would have treated Aunt Frank, though.

• 11:30Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 11:31Speaker 06

  We know how you would have treated her.

• 11:32Speaker 04

  How?

• 11:33Speaker 06

  Uh, something like that, probably with the rewards. I'd hide a migrant. I'd hide a migrant. Yeah, who wouldn't? Yeah, but he'd try to fuck. Because you can't, so.

• 11:44Mark Gagnon?

  Okay, I'm here.

• 11:47Speaker 06

  No, I got something. I got this gay hockey show.

• 11:51Speaker 06

  I'm here. Would you like to learn about hockey? But like, because you can't hire somebody knowing they're illegal.

• 11:58Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 11:58Speaker 06

  Let them work for you, and then when ICE comes, act as if you weren't part of that whole transaction.

• 12:03Speaker 04

  Yeah, that's crazy.

• 12:04Speaker 06

  Yeah, right?

• 12:05Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, of course.

• 12:06Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 12:06Speaker 05

  You gotta keep your hookup, too. That's very important. You can't lose that.

• 12:09Speaker 04

  Yeah, that's a good point.

• 12:10Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 12:10Speaker 04

  You got somebody that does good work, you know what I mean, knows the deal.

• 12:13Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 12:13Speaker 04

  But I was going on Canal Street.

• 12:15Speaker 06

  Are they even arresting criminals anymore?

• 12:17Speaker 04

  I think we got them.

• 12:18Speaker 06

  Did we get them all? Turns out there weren't that many, I guess.

• 12:21Speaker 04

  I think it was like week one.

• 12:22Speaker 06

  Every criminal, week one.

• 12:23Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 12:24Speaker 06

  And now it's just... People working? All the guys at Home Depot.

• 12:29Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 12:30Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 12:31Speaker 04

  I think it's just meant to mess with states. They're just like, oh, I hate Tim Walz, so let's go to Minneapolis.

• 12:35Speaker 06

  At what point do the migrants just start wearing blackface?

• 12:39Speaker 06

  How's that gonna help?

• 12:40Speaker 05

  I think I know where he's going with this. Hear him out.

• 12:42Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 12:43Speaker 05

  Hear him out.

• 12:44Speaker 06

  I'm just saying, like.

• 12:45Speaker 05

  Hear him out.

• 12:45Speaker 06

  If you saw a dude in America wearing blackface, you wouldn't assume they're a migrant, you would assume they're MAGA.

• 12:52Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 12:54Speaker 06

  So, so ICE would probably be like, nah, he's cool, like.

• 12:58Speaker 05

  One of us.

• 12:59Speaker 06

  Yeah. Don't you think?

• 13:03Mark Gagnon?

  But most of them are like Hispanic.

• 13:06Speaker 06

  Yeah, but you're covering that.

• 13:07Mark Gagnon?

  I never seen Hispanic in blackface.

• 13:09Speaker 06

  You're covering that.

• 13:10Speaker 04

  It might never be.

• 13:10Speaker 05

  So he must not be Hispanic.

• 13:11Speaker 06

  How else can you tell?

• 13:12Speaker 05

  He must be white.

• 13:13Speaker 06

  How else can you tell that they're Hispanic if you're covering it? Is there any other indicating markers for you? What's the indicating markers?

• 13:19Mark Gagnon?

  I don't know, the hands, maybe?

• 13:21Speaker 06

  5'3", 240 pounds.

• 13:25Mark Gagnon?

  A little gut, boxy bill.

• 13:27Speaker 05

  You know how I knew I was fat in middle school besides the mirror? Uh, my principal always thought I was Mexican. Every time he saw me, he would say, "Hola amigo." And I was like, "God damn, I'm short and fat, dude."

• 13:37Mark Gagnon?

  That's all they had down there.

• 13:39Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 13:39Mark Gagnon?

  It was just whites and Mexicans.

• 13:40Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 13:43Speaker 05

  Every time he saw me, "Hola amigo."

• 13:44Speaker 04

  Damn. Hit you with a gordo, ever?

• 13:47Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I got hit with that. My Mexicans.

• 13:51Speaker 06

  That's a, that's a term of endearment, bro.

• 13:52Speaker 05

  Oh, bet. All right, they like me.

• 13:54Speaker 06

  Yeah, they love me.

• 13:54Speaker 05

  They like my little chubby ass.

• 13:56Speaker 06

  That's love, that's love right there. Now, we gotta shut down, we gotta shut down Ice. We gotta focus in like a more specific area.

• 14:03Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 14:04Speaker 05

  What are you thinking?

• 14:06Mark Gagnon?

  That town upstate in New York?

• 14:16Speaker 04

  The name is hilarious.

• 14:17Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 14:17Speaker 04

  Called Curious Joel.

• 14:19Speaker 06

  Curious Joel.

• 14:20Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 14:21Speaker 05

  I, I don't know this story.

• 14:22Speaker 04

  Which is just a funny name for a town.

• 14:24Mark Gagnon?

  Please try to find that video.

• 14:25Speaker 06

  So they, they, this is, what's the guy named Tyler Olivera?

• 14:28Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 14:29Mark Gagnon?

  That shit is hilarious, bro.

• 14:31Speaker 06

  So go.

• 14:32Speaker 04

  Well, basically, he goes to this town, this is an upstate, and it is like predominantly Hasidic Jewish, which is a specific subset of like Orthodox Judaism. And he's basically making the claim that they're all on welfare.

• 14:45Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 14:46Speaker 04

  I don't want to misrepresent his video, I didn't see the whole thing, but these are the clips I saw on Twitter. And he's basically going around interviewing people, being like, "What do you do for work? Who are you? Like, how do you make your money?" And, uh, yeah, the title, "Inside the New York Town Invaded by Welfare Addicted Jews." Kind of a, a tough, tough name.

• 15:02Speaker 06

  Welfare addicted.

• 15:04Speaker 05

  Oh my God.

• 15:05Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 15:05Speaker 06

  Okay.

• 15:06Speaker 04

  And, uh...

• 15:07Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, we need him.

• 15:07Speaker 04

  Yeah, I didn't see the whole thing, so I, I don't want to speak out of turn. But basically, the claim is like, they're all just stealing from the government. They're all faking being on welfare to leech. And, uh, it seems like right now, people are not happy about it.

• 15:19Speaker 06

  Yeah. He didn't have to go all the way to upstate New York, though.

• 15:22Speaker 05

  Yeah, that's what I was wondering, Williamsburg, right?

• 15:24Speaker 06

  Yeah, you could do it right there in Brooklyn.

• 15:26Speaker 05

  Take the Eltran.

• 15:27Speaker 06

  Yeah. If Tyler lives in, in New York City. Guys, very, very cool show. Uh, part of the Netflix Comedy Fest. I know that they announced a million different shows. This is, this is a pretty cool one. Uh, Jelly Roll and I are gonna be doing the Beautifully Broken Comedy Night, okay? Jelly's gonna host it. Uh, I'm gonna be doing, so we got some special guests that we can't, uh, announce just yet. I, I think that you can maybe assume they're gonna be special. Uh, May 8th, 2026, the Greek Theater in LA. It's gonna be a wild night. You know I fucking love Jelly. He's the man and it's awesome that he wants to do,

• 16:07Speaker 06

  um, you know, host his comedy show. You know Jelly's gonna be doing music. We're gonna get all sorts of people out there. I mean, yeah, I don't know. I'm, I'm very excited for it. I want to do something a little different for the festival this year, so, um, I'm stoked to be a part of it and we're gonna, there's gonna be some other cool people that are gonna be a part of it, which we will not announce now for probably contractual reasons, but, uh-

• 16:28Speaker 04

  Jelly's well-connected.

• 16:29Speaker 06

  Hey, he knows a couple people, you know, so I think it's gonna be a pretty special night. Anyway, I wanna see you guys out there. Uh, the pre-sale is live now. You can go, use the code ANDREW. You can go get those tickets right now. We will see you May 8th with the man, Jelly. Love you dogs. Very excited for this. Peace.

• 16:47Speaker 05

  Alright guys, knocking out-

• 16:48Speaker 04

  Thanks.

• 16:48Speaker 06

  They have great electronics stores. Shout out B&H.

• 16:51Speaker 04

  Oh, the goats, dude.

• 16:52Speaker 06

  We don't know what entertainment in New York City would be without you. Shout out B&H.

• 16:55Speaker 04

  The goats.

• 16:56Speaker 06

  Doing a great job.

• 16:57Mark Gagnon?

  Best store in the world.

• 16:58Speaker 06

  Best store. It is kinda hilarious to like buy the most high-tech electronic equipment from a guy who looks like he's from the 1600s. Like, there's no, you're looking at him like, there's no way you know how to use-

• 17:08Speaker 04

  And they know it well.

• 17:09Speaker 06

  Everything.

• 17:10Mark Gagnon?

  They know everything.

• 17:10Speaker 06

  Everybody there gotta have a college education, like, in the thing they're talking about.

• 17:14Speaker 04

  Oh, really?

• 17:14Speaker 06

  Yeah, some weird-

• 17:16Speaker 04

  Huh.

• 17:16Speaker 06

  Yeah, and like they sneak like black Hasidic Jews in there too.

• 17:20Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 17:21Speaker 06

  It's a really fun adventure walking around the store.

• 17:23Speaker 05

  Yo, they gotta expand. That would be great for Jewish PR. You just put a B&H in every major city in the South in particular, and watch the views on Jews start to change.

• 17:31Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 17:32Speaker 05

  Suddenly we're a little more pro-Semite.

• 17:34Speaker 06

  You could make an argument that they're responsible for all the negative views on Jews from selling the equipment.

• 17:41Speaker 04

  They should film this documentary.

• 17:42Speaker 06

  If they just shut down the stores, there would be no YouTube videos made about them.

• 17:47Speaker 04

  They don't control the media. They do control the cameras. They control a lot of the cameras.

• 17:51Speaker 06

  They do.

• 17:53Speaker 04

  But yeah dude, you'll talk to a guy in full 1800s Polish gear. Ask him about like camera settings. He's like, "Oh yeah, no, you need to be on this frame right? This is..." Yeah. And then he just gets a flip phone call.

• 18:04Speaker 06

  Dude, they got the flip phone calls.

• 18:05Speaker 04

  I told you.

• 18:06Speaker 06

  They're like drug dealers.

• 18:07Mark Gagnon?

  The bad part is that they celebrate the Sabbath or whatever.

• 18:10Speaker 06

  Oh no, the bad part is they celebrate every fucking holiday. So you'll go there on a random Wednesday and it's shut down.

• 18:14Mark Gagnon?

  Like Saturday. How you close on a Saturday? That's when everybody shops.

• 18:19Speaker 06

  Remember, nobody beats the whiz?

• 18:20Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 18:21Speaker 06

  They did.

• 18:24Speaker 06

  They're, they're open like three days a week and they still beat every other electronics store.

• 18:28Speaker 04

  Dude, did I tell you my, because my wife works within the Hasidic community. And so she was in the apartment one day with all these Hasidic women and one of them gets a phone call.

• 18:37Mark Gagnon?

  Does she get paid an EBT?

• 18:40Speaker 05

  Isn't it fun to make welfare jokes?

• 18:42Speaker 06

  No, I know.

• 18:44Speaker 05

  Finally, you're on this side of the ledger.

• 18:48Speaker 06

  I'm okay. We did it, baby.

• 18:51Speaker 05

  That was his dream.

• 18:53Speaker 06

  Yeah, white people have black people.

• 18:58Speaker 04

  Dude, she's sitting in the apartment and the girl gets a phone call on her phone and it literally goes, dun dun dun, dun dun dun, dun dun dun da dun. That's kind of funny. And she goes, "Why?" And she's like, "Well, it's Jingle Bells."

• 19:11Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 19:11Speaker 04

  She was like, "What's that?"

• 19:16Speaker 04

  I swear to the sham, bro. She's like, that's, she's like, "That's a Christmas song." She's like, "Really? I just thought it sounded nice." And she's like, "Yeah, it's like a Christmas song." She goes, "Oh, okay, cool." I had no idea. I'd never heard of Jingle Bells in her life.

• 19:28Speaker 06

  Open the window, drop the phone out of it.

• 19:32Speaker 04

  They had no idea. So they do live in like a very insulated bubble. Yeah.

• 19:37Speaker 06

  Yeah, it is fascinating. We used to like drive through it as a kid. My dad would like take us through it. You gotta check this out. And he's like, "They're living like it's the 1700s still."

• 19:45Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 19:46Speaker 06

  And it was cool to see. I don't know why he would do it.

• 19:48Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 19:49Speaker 06

  It was like to the zoo or something?

• 19:52Speaker 04

  It was like a human zoo.

• 19:54Speaker 06

  No, it was like, this is a throwback.

• 19:55Mark Gagnon?

  Don't roll down the window.

• 19:59Speaker 06

  Like, it is crazy.

• 20:00Speaker 08

  I run through that neighborhood when I'm... I live right on the edge of it. You don't be hunting. You don't run, gosh.

• 20:08Speaker 06

  Who's getting circumcised? I wanna see.

• 20:11Speaker 08

  But it's a fun neighborhood to run through, because you're the only one. Everyone else is like, speedwalking and like, doing... It's just such a fun neighborhood to go through. I really enjoy it.

• 20:19Speaker 05

  That's how you gotta feel fast.

• 20:22Speaker 08

  Truly, no.

• 20:22Speaker 06

  Shout out them, though. Shout out them. I got a fake vaccine from y'all that didn't work, but shout out y'all, man. I got a fake... Was it a vaccine or the booster? I forgot what I got, but I went out to Williamsburg and I got that shit.

• 20:33Speaker 05

  It was the booster, because you got the actual vaccine.

• 20:34Speaker 06

  I got the vaccine.

• 20:35Speaker 08

  You didn't get the vaccine.

• 20:36Speaker 04

  Sucker.

• 20:37Speaker 06

  I know. You really, you really went the whole time without getting it?

• 20:40Speaker 04

  All the time.

• 20:40Speaker 06

  Wow.

• 20:41Speaker 08

  I mean, I don't know if that stuff we're allowed to say.

• 20:45Speaker 06

  Oh, yeah, the Hasidic Frogger for the marathon?

• 20:47Speaker 08

  Yes. Every year, they do the New York City Marathon, cuts right through their neighborhood. You know what they call their neighborhood? The Silent Mile, because no one cheers. Oh, that's so funny. There's no one down there cheering. It's all just neighborhood. Oh, that's hilarious.

• 21:01Speaker 06

  Gotta lock in.

• 21:02Speaker 08

  Punitive.

• 21:03Speaker 05

  Yeah, dude. Yeah.

• 21:06Speaker 04

  That is so funny.

• 21:08Speaker 08

  I love them. I love New York.

• 21:09Speaker 06

  New York is the best.

• 21:10Speaker 08

  That's what I'm saying, like, part of me is just like...

• 21:12Speaker 05

  It's literally seventeen degrees outside right now.

• 21:19Speaker 06

  So, we're about to go to New York.

• 21:23Speaker 05

  Come on, because I felt myself buying in, and then I was like, what am I fucking talking about? It's seventeen degrees outside.

• 21:29Speaker 06

  Why is it so cold, though? Why are we here?

• 21:31Speaker 05

  Thank you.

• 21:32Speaker 06

  What are we doing here?

• 21:33Speaker 05

  Thank you.

• 21:34Speaker 06

  What are we doing here?

• 21:35Speaker 05

  What an invalid question I'm bringing up. What an asshole I am.

• 21:37Speaker 06

  I'm not. I'm indulging it. Where should we be? Where should we be?

• 21:41Speaker 05

  Southern California. San Diego, greatest city in America.

• 21:44Speaker 06

  You love San Diego.

• 21:45Speaker 05

  It's perfect. It's paradise.

• 21:46Speaker 06

  Why is it perfect? Why is it paradise?

• 21:48Speaker 05

  It's a very small Punjabi community, no kidding. It's the best weather on earth. People are friendly. The traffic isn't bad, so all the things that you like about LA are there, but none of the things you hate. There's no Hollywood phonies. Food is pretty good. Not great, pretty good, especially for Cali. It's just, what's wrong with living there? It's great.

• 22:05Speaker 06

  Strong military presence.

• 22:06Speaker 05

  Strong military. That is, dude, a liberal state with a Republican city, or vice versa, that's the, that's the way to do it. You need a liberal fucking Austin in Texas, conservative state, or a Republican San Diego in a liberal state.

• 22:19Speaker 06

  The yin and yang, they balance each other out.

• 22:21Speaker 05

  Because they don't get too far.

• 22:22Speaker 08

  Yeah.

• 22:23Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 22:24Speaker 08

  I mean, I would say...

• 22:25Speaker 05

  New York, New York is socialist. We elected a communist that I pretend isn't a communist because I like brown people.

• 22:34Speaker 05

  You know what I mean?

• 22:35Mark Gagnon?

  We'll take it, we'll take it.

• 22:36Speaker 06

  Zoe's not a communist.

• 22:38Speaker 05

  I know, I love him, it's all love, but.

• 22:40Speaker 06

  No, what is he?

• 22:41Speaker 04

  Except he changed the Williamsburg Bridge, you saw this?

• 22:43Speaker 06

  He did, he stopped that little dip.

• 22:45Speaker 05

  He blew this shit up?

• 22:51Speaker 06

  His first act as mayor was to get rid of the little bump.

• 22:54Speaker 04

  The little jump.

• 22:54Speaker 06

  Would you get a little air off of when you're coming into?

• 22:56Speaker 04

  Always, always dude.

• 22:57Speaker 06

  And have you ridden on it since?

• 22:58Speaker 04

  Yeah, and it's super lank. That's my big issue. I thought he was gonna build a ramp. I thought that was his plan.

• 23:04Speaker 06

  That'd be fire.

• 23:05Speaker 04

  But now we just flattened it out.

• 23:06Mark Gagnon?

  It's, they could've did a better job.

• 23:10Speaker 06

  Yeah, it doesn't look, it doesn't look great.

• 23:12Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 23:12Speaker 04

  It is safer.

• 23:13Mark Gagnon?

  If you're gonna make this the big first thing, like, do it nicer.

• 23:17Speaker 04

  It is, apparently he did it off a comment. Someone like commented like, yo, if you become mayor, will you fix the bridge? And he was like, it'll be the first thing I do.

• 23:24Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, that's fire.

• 23:24Speaker 06

  That's great social.

• 23:25Speaker 04

  Promise is made.

• 23:26Speaker 05

  He's smart dude.

• 23:27Speaker 04

  You know what I mean?

• 23:27Speaker 08

  The guy that is mega for Zoron was a guy who was like, yeah, I called Zoron when he was my elected official. And he got shit done for me immediately. I was like, oh, that's cool. He's very like close, ear on the ground kinda guy.

• 23:41Speaker 04

  But also, I don't know, did you see Ricky Velez's post? He was like, ever since Zoron got elected, Knicks have been 2 and 8.

• 23:48Speaker 06

  Yeah, it's bad. It's bad.

• 23:50Speaker 04

  So I don't know how he's gonna fix that.

• 23:52Speaker 06

  It's very bad. And I haven't come up with a joke yet connecting the two, but I thought by the second time I said it's bad, I would have one. And then when I got to the third, I was like, I don't think it's coming.

• 24:02Speaker 04

  You just felt the pain and the anger just really well.

• 24:05Speaker 06

  Yeah, I know it's bad because my group chat was going crazy last time.

• 24:07Speaker 05

  Y'all lost to the Mavericks like by 20 or some shit like that.

• 24:10Speaker 06

  Yeah, Damaris hit me up. He's like, I don't know how he did that shit.

• 24:11Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Without Anthony Davis, it's just really embarrassing.

• 24:15Speaker 06

  Yeah, something's up, something's up. Are you watching games now?

• 24:18Speaker 05

  No.

• 24:19Mark Gagnon?

  Nah, I'm a fake New Yorker.

• 24:20Speaker 06

  Yeah, yeah.

• 24:20Mark Gagnon?

  I'm a fake Knicks fan, sorry, sorry. I know, yeah, that was crazy, that was crazy.

• 24:24Speaker 05

  Crazy, honest for sake.

• 24:25Speaker 06

  You made me feel uncomfortable.

• 24:26Speaker 04

  Yeah, you're thinking about San Diego.

• 24:27Speaker 06

  You made me feel, Akas fucking got you.

• 24:30Speaker 05

  I loves Cali, I loves Cali.

• 24:32Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, I ain't gonna lie.

• 24:33Speaker 05

  I loves Cali.

• 24:34Speaker 06

  Where's Wheezy's house? Shouts to Wheezy by the way. Wheezy just bought a new house, so shouts to you Wheezy.

• 24:40Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 24:40Speaker 06

  Is it in LA?

• 24:42Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 24:42Speaker 04

  Is it though?

• 24:42Speaker 06

  Okay, that's, yeah. No, no, you don't have to think of the area. I just didn't know what city it was in. I didn't know.

• 24:47Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 24:47Speaker 06

  Wow, good for her.

• 24:48Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 24:49Speaker 06

  Have you gone over there?

• 24:50Mark Gagnon?

  Not yet.

• 24:50Speaker 06

  She hasn't invited you over?

• 24:51Mark Gagnon?

  Nah, they're gonna.

• 24:52Speaker 06

  Is there trouble in the gay podcasting that one? What happened?

• 24:56Mark Gagnon?

  They're gonna do demolition, all that type of stuff.

• 24:58Speaker 06

  Oh, she's gonna do a complete renovation?

• 25:00Mark Gagnon?

  Inside.

• 25:01Speaker 06

  Wow.

• 25:01Speaker 05

  Oh, that's, yeah, that's money. When you buy a house and you're like, this house ain't nice enough? That shit is money. Let me tear down the house to build another house where I bought the house?

• 25:10Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 25:10Speaker 05

  That shit is money.

• 25:11Mark Gagnon?

  She's doing good.

• 25:12Speaker 05

  God bless, dude, I love that.

• 25:14Mark Gagnon?

  She's doing good.

• 25:16Speaker 06

  She's doing good.

• 25:16Speaker 04

  Also, counterpoint to your San Diego thing, Salt Lake City.

• 25:20Speaker 05

  Oh, you were there this weekend?

• 25:21Speaker 04

  I love it, dude.

• 25:22Speaker 06

  Yeah, tell me what-

• 25:23Speaker 04

  Oh, it's, I, I can't say it's the best city ever-

• 25:25Speaker 06

  Let's leave New York to go to a place colder than New York?

• 25:27Speaker 04

  But you can use the cold. You can't say Salt Lake is the best city because it is-

• 25:30Speaker 06

  This is actually a good point.

• 25:32Speaker 04

  It is racist to say it's the best city.

• 25:34Speaker 06

  Why? Cause it's only Samoans? A lot is a lot.

• 25:37Speaker 04

  Yeah. It just is very, very white, so if you're like-

• 25:40Speaker 06

  A lot of salt.

• 25:40Speaker 04

  If you're like, dude, it's the greatest city ever, it's like, well, why is it the best? And you're like, well, it's quiet or whatever. Like, you gotta kinda like, kinda back out of it. But it is one of the best. I love Salt Lake City with all my heart. Truly the best.

• 25:50Mark Gagnon?

  You just love the Mormons.

• 25:51Speaker 04

  I love, dude.

• 25:52Speaker 06

  Yeah, like I-

• 25:53Speaker 04

  We call them LDS technically, but I do love them.

• 25:55Speaker 05

  It is the whitest city I perform in, and I love Wise Guys Comedy Club, they're the best. The fans show up, but it's, I'm always like, I can count the minorities on one hand. Which for my show is very, I mean, for any of our shows is rare, but for me in particular. There's like two Indians that didn't know what they were getting into.

• 26:08Speaker 04

  Amazing, right?

• 26:09Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 26:12Speaker 04

  It's just perfect cause you get to utilize the whole thing the whole time.

• 26:16Mark Gagnon?

  You liking it a little bit too much, bro.

• 26:17Speaker 04

  That's all I'm saying, that's all I'm saying. That's why you gotta be like, it's good, it's good. But like, it's, you, it's cold, but you get to use the cold. And it's hot, but you get to use the hot. You know what I mean? Like, you get to go ski and you get to snowboard and snowmobile and put your kid on a sled and send him on a tube. New York is cold for no reason.

• 26:33Speaker 06

  And hot for no reason. Like, New York, well, I, what I would say about New York is it works without the temperature. Like, the temperature doesn't matter. Like, you're doing whatever you do, you can go do it. Like, you're going to Madison Square Garden, you're going to summer, you're going to fall, it doesn't matter. But Salt Lake is all about the weather.

• 26:48Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 26:49Speaker 06

  Entirely.

• 26:50Speaker 04

  Yeah. And like, the culture that like, the LDS kinda built, like, there's like alcohol-

• 26:54Speaker 06

  But are there things to do outside of nature? My only argument would be, what, you're gonna go to Swig and drink like Coca-Cola with sugar in it? Dude, these Mormon, have you guys watched The Real Lives of Mormon Lives?

• 27:06Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah, dude. It's all time, great show.

• 27:09Mark Gagnon?

  That's the ones, they're all fucking each other, right?

• 27:11Speaker 04

  Yeah, that was part of it.

• 27:12Speaker 06

  Let me tell you something. It is, thank god they don't drink alcohol. What they're willing to share on caffeine is unprecedented. Yo, these girls, this girl's talking about cutting off her beef curtains. She's like, "Yeah, my pussy just started getting hangy." She takes a slurp of a 44 ounce of Coca-Cola with like some like red sugar dye in it. She's like, "Yeah, so I had to chop them off." She shows all the girls her new vagina, shows the cameraman, everything. They have to blur it out because she's showing it. And what's really interesting about them is-

• 27:43Mark Gagnon?

  Show sounds amazing.

• 27:44Speaker 06

  No, no. Must watch TV. But what's incredible about it is that like, they're so open with their sexual shit, but they're married. And they don't shame sex within the marriage. It's really interesting, like, they would shame sexual behavior outside of it. Like, if you're just like a whore in the community, that would be bad. But once you're with your husband-

• 28:05Mark Gagnon?

  You'd be a slut for your husband.

• 28:05Speaker 06

  He was clapping my cheek and you could just say it! And they don't care! They'd share the stories with each other!

• 28:11Speaker 05

  Also worth noting, they're attractive. At least the one in the front seemed hot.

• 28:14Speaker 06

  Everyone in Salt Lake is attractive. It's like our Scandinavia.

• 28:18Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 28:19Speaker 06

  Our Norway, our Sweden is Salt Lake.

• 28:21Speaker 04

  For a few reasons, I would say.

• 28:22Speaker 06

  Tell me, please.

• 28:23Speaker 04

  No alcohol.

• 28:24Mark Gagnon?

  Yep.

• 28:24Speaker 04

  Like, that helps.

• 28:25Mark Gagnon?

  No drugs.

• 28:26Speaker 04

  No drugs, being outdoors a lot.

• 28:28Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 28:28Speaker 04

  And then on top of that, because-

• 28:29Mark Gagnon?

  They don't do like the processed food, right? Don't they like try to eat-

• 28:31Speaker 04

  They're healthy and like crunchy, but like, on top of that, you also, because of the LDS mission, Mormons going around like converting people.

• 28:37Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 28:38Speaker 04

  It is actually pretty diverse, and you get like weird mixes. What would be like a Filipino-Pakistani LDS Mormon, you know what I mean? And then, or you had like half Japanese, white-

• 28:51Speaker 05

  Yeah, we had South Indian Mormon, yeah.

• 28:51Speaker 04

  Samoan, like Guatemalan.

• 28:54Speaker 06

  How did the Samoans end up embracing?

• 28:57Mark Gagnon?

  I like that he said-

• 28:57Speaker 05

  Manti Teo.

• 28:58Mark Gagnon?

  I like that he said the reason why they're attractive is because they're mixed with other stuff that's non-white.

• 29:02Speaker 06

  No, the whites are fucking good-looking out there.

• 29:04Speaker 04

  No, they're all, everyone's just good-looking, but then you get mixing, you get nice and little mixed.

• 29:08Speaker 05

  No, no, that's valid though, because it's not just hot white girls, which you would think. It's mixed hot girls.

• 29:13Mark Gagnon?

  You just said it's all white people.

• 29:14Speaker 06

  I'll be honest with you, I haven't seen a, I've seen non-white men. I don't think they, I don't, I think they kick out the non-white women or something. I haven't seen a non-white woman there. I see a lot of like male Samoans, you see male other things you mentioned. But it's females, it's just white women. And like, skinny, in shape, blonde hair, blue eyes.

• 29:35Speaker 04

  That's a stereotype, yeah.

• 29:36Speaker 06

  Stereotype.

• 29:38Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 29:39Speaker 06

  I mean, there's a few brunettes, but it's like-

• 29:43Speaker 06

  There's one mixed girl on the show. And she happened to have like a kid out of wedlock. It's kinda fucked up. So she had a kid from the previous marriage or something.

• 29:51Speaker 04

  It happens.

• 29:52Speaker 06

  I think you're not allowed to get divorced.

• 29:54Speaker 04

  I don't know, I mean, you can.

• 29:55Speaker 06

  They do.

• 29:56Speaker 04

  Probably frowned upon.

• 29:56Speaker 06

  I think they like kick you out the community. Maybe, I don't know. I mean, they're getting a little loosey goosey now.

• 30:01Speaker 04

  Yeah, women can show shoulders now.

• 30:02Speaker 05

  Money. That's what happens.

• 30:04Speaker 04

  They like change the dress code.

• 30:05Speaker 06

  Change the dress code. I don't think they were on caffeine before. I think that's new.

• 30:08Speaker 04

  Yeah, well, apparently caffeine thing was never doctrinal. It was always like inter- interpersonal. Whereas like, I don't think.

• 30:15Speaker 05

  It wasn't in the.

• 30:16Speaker 04

  Brigham Young was never like, oh, you can't drink caffeine. It was like.

• 30:19Speaker 06

  Coffee they don't drink.

• 30:20Speaker 04

  But now, but they do a little.

• 30:22Speaker 06

  Ketamine?

• 30:23Speaker 04

  They love ketamine.

• 30:24Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 30:25Speaker 04

  But like on the show.

• 30:26Speaker 06

  Oh shit, really?

• 30:27Speaker 05

  Doctrinal easier.

• 30:28Speaker 06

  Exactly, because they didn't know about the pharmaceuticals back in the day.

• 30:29Speaker 04

  But it's prescribed.

• 30:31Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 30:31Speaker 04

  And then they do like ketamine treatments.

• 30:32Speaker 05

  No, that sounds awesome to be honest. That, you're really making a good case.

• 30:36Speaker 04

  Oh, it's this awesome. And then in the summertime, you go mountain biking, you go hiking. Like the weather's beautiful.

• 30:41Speaker 05

  I love all of it.

• 30:41Speaker 04

  Sure.

• 30:42Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 30:42Speaker 04

  You're getting a little K-hole and salt.

• 30:44Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 30:44Speaker 06

  Shout out, shout out Salt Lake, yeah.

• 30:46Speaker 04

  Oh, it's just the best.

• 30:47Speaker 05

  Speaking of television, I'm on a flight to Arizona, five hour flight. Guy next to me, locked into his laptop, ignoring the TV on the screen, all the movies that are there. I'm like, what the fuck is this guy watching? He's so locked in. And then I see this really hot girl. And I'm like, what show is this? And then I see Ally Larder and I, or whatever the name is, and I put together, oh, this is Landman. And my man was locked in.

• 31:10Speaker 06

  How old is seventeen, really?

• 31:11Speaker 05

  Yo.

• 31:13Speaker 06

  How old is seventeen?

• 31:14Speaker 05

  I saw that girl.

• 31:15Speaker 06

  How old?

• 31:15Speaker 05

  I glanced, I was like, who the fuck is it?

• 31:18Speaker 06

  She's twenty-eight in real life.

• 31:19Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 31:20Speaker 06

  The character is seventeen. She's twenty-eight in real life.

• 31:23Speaker 04

  Gross.

• 31:24Speaker 06

  Continue, please.

• 31:24Speaker 05

  I think the real years matter, and I think I might owe you an apology.

• 31:27Speaker 06

  Yo, man, I accept it.

• 31:29Speaker 05

  Yeah, dude.

• 31:29Speaker 06

  Never needed one, but I accepted.

• 31:31Speaker 05

  Yo, because I was shitting on him for liking Landman. The one I saw the girl, I was like, maybe I need to share your buds with him.

• 31:36Speaker 06

  That's what every girl in Salt Lake looks like. She's like the quintessential Salt Lake Mormon girl. That you can't keep a society that is this like, kind of like removed from normalcy together without beautiful women. If the girls were dogs, people would convert to like regular Christianity. But the girls are so hot, they're like, yeah, the tablets were buried in upstate New York and the fucking Jews made it to the shore. Something like that. The Native Americans were really out there. Like, all that makes sense when every girl's a dime. And that's the reason in Islam, they gotta cover the girls up, man.

• 32:08Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 32:08Speaker 06

  It was growing too fast. The religion was growing too fast from all the beautiful women and they're like, we need to slow this thing down. We gotta slow it down. They covered them up. They consolidated it. They had it in one region and then that was it.

• 32:20Speaker 05

  But Alan, I could still tell. We cracked the code and we were there. Yeah.

• 32:22Speaker 06

  But can you?

• 32:23Speaker 05

  Yeah, dude.

• 32:24Mark Gagnon?

  I'm telling you, when you're there long enough, you know how when you're in college and you start thinking like sixes or tens? We saw through this.

• 32:31Speaker 05

  So, hold on, that was a bad example.

• 32:37Speaker 05

  I know what I said. I know what I said. And I'm still standing on it.

• 32:41Speaker 04

  How do you feel about it?

• 32:43Speaker 05

  I ain't go.

• 32:43Speaker 04

  How do you feel?

• 32:44Mark Gagnon?

  I'm standing on it.

• 32:46Speaker 05

  You know how when you're in a new country, they're speaking a foreign language, over time you still start to understand without realizing? Yeah, exactly. That's what happened in Saudi. We can still understand what's underneath the niqab without, without realizing.

• 32:56Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, exactly that.

• 32:56Speaker 06

  That ain't hit me like that, man. When I was out there, it didn't hit me like that. Maybe I'm just more faithful to you guys. I think it's more than me, I'm just not looking for pussy on the road.

• 33:05Speaker 05

  No, it's jarring when you land at the airport because you're not used to it yet. So you just see, whoa, what's going on?

• 33:09Speaker 06

  It was jarring. That shit jarred me up.

• 33:11Speaker 05

  Ninjas everywhere.

• 33:12Speaker 06

  Fucking jarred me up, man. I got so jarred up, man.

• 33:15Speaker 04

  Nah, hijab women are pretty because they just focus on this. It's face.

• 33:18Speaker 05

  Hijab women are beautiful.

• 33:19Speaker 06

  They limit the amount. Oh, hijab is different than niqab.

• 33:22Speaker 05

  Yeah, hijab is just this. Niqab is...

• 33:25Mark Gagnon?

  Well, we were starting to get able to tell just from that.

• 33:27Speaker 04

  Yeah, eyebrow work.

• 33:28Speaker 06

  See, where I would give pushback is remember during COVID when everybody wore the mask and everybody was good looking?

• 33:33Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 33:34Speaker 06

  Remember how much better looking people were on the streets when the mask was on? Do you remember that a little bit? I think that's what happens out there as well. And what I would say is, you treat good looking people better. So maybe we are nicer to women in that part of the world when we can't see what their full heads look like. Do you think that's possible? That's, and we shouldn't be. We should be nice to everybody.

• 33:56Speaker 04

  No matter what. No matter what they look like.

• 33:58Speaker 06

  We should be.

• 33:59Speaker 05

  But I'm gonna start watching Landman and it's for only one reason. So, that's where we are.

• 34:06Speaker 06

  In the show.

• 34:07Mark Gagnon?

  Let's.

• 34:07Speaker 06

  Alex, she's seventeen in the show.

• 34:09Mark Gagnon?

  Nah, I don't make it better.

• 34:12Speaker 06

  There you go. He started playing with his pants.

• 34:16Mark Gagnon?

  This shit look crazy.

• 34:17Speaker 06

  Why is that shit bunched up so much? You know who's with her? Um. I think it's the Top Gun guy. Who's also. Miles tell her? No, no, no, no, no, handsome son of a bitch. What's his name? Glenn Powell? I think, is it Glenn Powell that's with her?

• 34:33Mark Gagnon?

  Is that the girl that Miles went on a date with?

• 34:35Speaker 06

  No. Oh, no. Why'd you say it like that?

• 34:40Mark Gagnon?

  Miles be putting in work.

• 34:41Speaker 06

  No, I know he puts in work.

• 34:42Mark Gagnon?

  Let's just not.

• 34:43Speaker 06

  But that's not, you know, that's not it. That's not it. I mean, maybe it is it, Miles.

• 34:49Speaker 08

  Michelle Randolph is, uh.

• 34:50Speaker 06

  Yeah, Miles not really feeling it today, right? Salty or something. What happened? You have money on the game?

• 34:56Speaker 08

  No, no, no, everything's good. But apparently, Michelle Randolph is dating Glenn Powell. So you are correct.

• 35:01Speaker 06

  Yeah, I know I'm correct.

• 35:02Mark Gagnon?

  Who was the girl you went on a date with?

• 35:03Speaker 06

  What's up with him today, hell? Why is Miles sad?

• 35:07Mark Gagnon?

  He gave you some sass.

• 35:08Speaker 06

  Yeah, he did. He just talked right through me.

• 35:10Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 35:11Speaker 06

  Yo. Tell me what's up with you, man.

• 35:14Speaker 08

  I got nothing wrong.

• 35:14Speaker 06

  Nah, something happened. It does seem like something's bothering you.

• 35:16Speaker 08

  This, nothing is bothering me.

• 35:18Speaker 06

  I don't know, dude.

• 35:19Speaker 08

  And if you say nothing's bothering you, then it's more bothering.

• 35:21Speaker 06

  You can just share with the, it's just the guys. Just the guys. Yeah, just tell us what's going on. No one else listening.

• 35:25Speaker 08

  I have nothing bothering me.

• 35:27Speaker 06

  I think there might be something bothering you. And if there is something bothering you, I think that this is a safe place to share it.

• 35:32Speaker 08

  Yesterday was Blue Monday. I would like to say that sort of, I think, affected me.

• 35:37Speaker 06

  Is that what you? Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Just. It's just the way he steps into it is so magical. Yeah, it's unbelievable. Yesterday was also Martin Luther King Jr. Day.

• 35:48Speaker 06

  But to him, he's like, it's Blue Monday, it's the saddest day of the year. Nothing makes me sad.

• 35:55Speaker 08

  I would like to bring up the fact that I had to work on Martin Luther King Day.

• 35:58Speaker 06

  I have a dream too. We can get rid of this fucking holiday.

• 36:03Speaker 08

  I would like to say I worked on Martin Luther King Day and I didn't want to because it felt racist.

• 36:08Speaker 06

  Damn.

• 36:08Mark Gagnon?

  You couldn't even honor the holiday?

• 36:10Speaker 06

  I couldn't, no, I had to fucking fix all the lights in here.

• 36:12Mark Gagnon?

  You were working.

• 36:13Speaker 08

  You didn't have to.

• 36:14Speaker 06

  You were singing white spirituals? Yo, what is a white spiritual? Where are you?

• 36:22Speaker 06

  Miles, what's up? I feel like you're just a little sad today or something.

• 36:24Speaker 08

  I have no sad.

• 36:25Speaker 04

  Just be vulnerable and share with us.

• 36:26Speaker 08

  I'm so good.

• 36:27Speaker 06

  Can you be vulnerable?

• 36:28Speaker 08

  I'm so good.

• 36:28Speaker 06

  How much you weighing in?

• 36:30Speaker 08

  How much am I weighing?

• 36:30Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 36:31Speaker 08

  Oh, I weighed myself today and it was bad.

• 36:33Speaker 06

  Okay, that's probably it.

• 36:34Speaker 08

  It was a bad number. Mark said I weighed 290 recently also.

• 36:37Speaker 06

  You weighed 290?

• 36:39Speaker 04

  You don't weigh 290?

• 36:40Speaker 08

  No, you said that, motherfucker.

• 36:42Speaker 04

  I just repeated what you said right now.

• 36:44Speaker 08

  You said it at dinner. You guessed all of our weights and mine was at 290.

• 36:48Speaker 06

  You guessed 290?

• 36:49Speaker 08

  Mark said that.

• 36:50Speaker 06

  I don't think you're even at 2. I think you're 187.

• 36:54Speaker 08

  You're so kind. 201 this morning, everybody, 201.

• 36:57Speaker 04

  Nice.

• 36:57Speaker 06

  Oh, that's, yeah, that's a rough day.

• 36:59Speaker 04

  No.

• 37:01Speaker 06

  That's a rough day.

• 37:01Speaker 08

  You don't feel good about it.

• 37:02Speaker 06

  No, no, no, no. That's a rough day. That's gonna affect your mood a little.

• 37:12Speaker 05

  I get what he means, that psychological barrier, 200.

• 37:15Speaker 06

  It's like if it came in at 199, you're like, I can fix this. 201 is like...

• 37:19Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 37:20Speaker 06

  Fuck. Fuck. Do you feel... Alright, can I ask you this as an honest question?

• 37:25Speaker 08

  Yeah.

• 37:26Speaker 06

  At 201, when you feel hungry, is there part of you telling your body like, there's no way?

• 37:31Speaker 08

  No.

• 37:32Speaker 04

  I'm full of food.

• 37:32Speaker 06

  I'm full of it. Like, there's reserves here somewhere.

• 37:35Speaker 08

  I have no calorie restrictions in my life. I have no fear of calories. It's such a funny problem.

• 37:40Speaker 04

  Chip, you don't laugh.

• 37:42Speaker 06

  Chip, are you okay over there, Chip? Chip, we're just trying to get to the bottom of Miles's stress eating. What could possibly be stressing you out recently?

• 37:49Speaker 08

  You eat like this much? Nothing.

• 37:52Speaker 06

  Okay. Okay.

• 37:54Speaker 08

  But yeah, 201 this morning, sort of a rough number.

• 37:56Speaker 04

  You're on a bulk, you're on a bulk.

• 37:57Speaker 06

  That's what I tell myself.

• 37:58Speaker 04

  Yeah, that's fine. You bulk, you get to like 205, 290, and then you come down. You're shredded.

• 38:04Speaker 05

  I tried telling myself that for a few years, but no muscle came in, so it just...

• 38:07Speaker 04

  No, it's in there, bro, it's under.

• 38:08Speaker 05

  It is underneath 21. Ah, okay.

• 38:10Speaker 06

  It's underneath, dude.

• 38:12Speaker 04

  Yes, dude.

• 38:12Speaker 06

  I just can't believe that Mark dipped his lips in Pop Rocks before the podcast.

• 38:16Speaker 04

  Give me the chap, you said you would... You said you would reward me, bro.

• 38:20Speaker 06

  I just can't believe it. We talk for a living.

• 38:24Speaker 04

  Bro, I'm telling you, it's dry up there in that saltwater.

• 38:25Speaker 06

  No, I believe you.

• 38:26Speaker 04

  It's so dry.

• 38:27Speaker 05

  I think you're also so white, you didn't even cross my mind to buy it.

• 38:31Speaker 04

  Dude, this is a great little Vaseline. This is...

• 38:34Speaker 06

  Oh.

• 38:35Speaker 04

  What?

• 38:36Speaker 06

  What's wrong? So, yeah, where do you guys stand?

• 38:38Speaker 08

  You guys sharing this shit.

• 38:40Speaker 06

  Where do you guys stand with sharing the lipstick chapstick?

• 38:42Speaker 05

  If it's finger, I don't care.

• 38:43Speaker 08

  I don't do it. You want this one?

• 38:45Speaker 06

  So you won't do it?

• 38:46Speaker 04

  No, this bird. This is a nice little vest. I like that it's the same shape.

• 38:50Speaker 06

  So you won't share a chapstick like that's a lipstick?

• 38:52Speaker 04

  I don't like. With whom? With whom? With whom?

• 38:54Speaker 06

  Would you share it with me?

• 38:56Speaker 04

  Never fuck out of here.

• 38:57Speaker 06

  Alright, alright. Hold on. You're the last person in the office I would share it.

• 39:02Speaker 04

  Okay, wait, why is that?

• 39:06Speaker 06

  The immediate knee jerk reaction from all of you.

• 39:09Speaker 04

  Cause I don't know where you're gonna put it. Like, dude, my ass is chapped.

• 39:14Speaker 06

  No, uh, wait, why me? Why not me?

• 39:17Speaker 04

  Come on.

• 39:17Speaker 06

  What is dirty about my lips?

• 39:19Speaker 05

  One of the dirtier human beings.

• 39:20Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 39:21Speaker 05

  Like, you'll take a shit, not wash your hands, and then dap us up immediately.

• 39:25Speaker 06

  You guys notice that? You can tell when I don't wipe my hands or wash my hands after shit?

• 39:29Speaker 05

  Cause it's completely dry, so.

• 39:31Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah. And your finger pierced through the paper somehow.

• 39:33Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 39:34Speaker 06

  Dude, don't you guys hate when that happens every single time?

• 39:37Speaker 04

  It doesn't happen to anyone else.

• 39:38Speaker 06

  Doesn't it happen to you guys every single time when you go single ply by accident on purpose? Like, aren't you like, oh, I forgot to fold it. Oh, no. How am I gonna get this thing out of there? The only way is through.

• 39:50Speaker 04

  Yeah, that only happens to you.

• 39:51Speaker 06

  Do you guys find it satisfying to scratch like a little deep in the hole? When you're getting a good scratch?

• 39:57Speaker 05

  No, I love when someone else does it.

• 40:02Speaker 04

  Bro, just get a bidet, dude. I save it for the bidet.

• 40:05Speaker 06

  I was digging in my ass today while on the deadlift. I was with my trainer, shout out Mike, and I was doing, I stopped the lift and I dug in my ass. Right? And I looked at him and he's just looking at me like, he has no clue what, he like, he's giving me the look like, I'm just gonna pretend I didn't see him do that in front of everybody at the gym. And I was like, yeah, man, sorry, I just had to dig in my ass. And he goes, he goes, uh, yeah, I get it. Alright, give me 10.

• 40:38Speaker 05

  Oh my god.

• 40:40Speaker 06

  Yeah, why was it so ishy then?

• 40:41Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 40:42Speaker 06

  I don't know. Is it white? I don't know. Yeah, we're gonna get you bidet. Don't even worry. Yeah, let's get back to the show.

• 40:49Speaker 05

  Oh, yo, Sheltie watched his first college football game yesterday.

• 40:52Speaker 06

  Yeah, my, it's almost my first. No, I did watch the, I did watch the championship game. Yeah, what'd you think?

• 40:58Speaker 05

  I mean, it was, I had to miss the very end, which sucked, but it was a fucking amazing game. And by then it was pretty much wrapped up. It was just like.

• 41:04Speaker 06

  But no, it was close up to the end. Like, they had one final drive.

• 41:06Speaker 05

  Yeah, and Indiana is, it's the, maybe the greatest story I've ever seen in sports.

• 41:10Speaker 06

  Yeah, can you break, you were breaking this down yesterday. Can you explain why Indiana just became a college football powerhouse?

• 41:16Speaker 05

  So, yeah, I'm not a massive college football fan. I'm a casual. I'll watch on SportsCenter. And then toward the end of the year, I get interested.

• 41:22Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 41:22Speaker 05

  Indiana has never been good in my 41 years on earth.

• 41:25Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 41:25Speaker 05

  They are actually the literal losingest team in Division One football history.

• 41:30Speaker 06

  Wow.

• 41:30Speaker 05

  Oh, wow. More losses than anyone in Division 1A or whatever it is. And then all of a sudden, last year, they were good. They hired this new coach. And we all kind of thought it was fluky. They lost in the playoff. And then this year, they go undefeated, and they're one of the greatest teams of all time. And it is based on this coach. This one guy, Chuck Signetti is his name. He came from a school, James Madison University. He went, won there kind of out of nowhere. And then he brought a lot of those players over. And his, his method is really interesting because college football, my entire life, has been run by these like blue blood programs. The SEC schools like Georgia, Alabama, Michigan, Ohio State, UT, LSU, whatever. And they have all the big boosters and all the big money.

• 42:11Speaker 05

  And all the fertile grounds of football players are in Texas and Florida and California or whatever. So they just throw money around and nobody can compete. And it's been the same good teams my entire life. What this guy does is he's like, okay, I can't get some 18-year-old, five-star recruit high schooler who's one of the best high school kids in the nation. So I will explore, exploit what's called the transfer portal. So these are older kids who might not be able to play at some of these other schools who are less highly recruited out of high school. But they're grown men. They're 22, 23, 24 years old. He brings them over. And a lot of people are saying that's unfair, but. Somebody brought up a good counterpoint, which, which was if all that matters is age, BYU, to bring up the Mormons again, why wouldn't they be the best school every single year?

• 42:54Speaker 06

  Because they go away before they go to school for a couple of years.

• 42:56Speaker 05

  They go do mission trips for two, three years. That's like a thing you do as a Mormon. So it's not just the age. He also like, has a very interesting practice philosophy. They don't do grueling practices that last hours and hours. We're gonna practice, we're gonna practice correctly, and then we're gonna get the fuck out. Everything is done very efficiently. I like that. He's also a hard ass in that he won't ever really show emotion or happiness. Like, um, they had a bye week. All the best, the four best teams in college had a week off. And then they got to advance straight to the second college football playoff game. Three teams lost. One team won. And it was Indiana. And he was like, I told my team on no uncertain terms that we were not gonna have a letdown. He basically just fucking reamed him and was like, we're not doing that. They decimate Alabama, who's one of the greatest college football programs ever.

• 43:42Speaker 05

  Then the next round they play Oregon, beat the shit out of them. Their quarterback, sweetest kid on earth, Latino kid, two Latino parents, mom has MS. This guy literally is the perfect human being. He is, in the first two playoff games, had more touchdowns than incompletions. Wow. Whoa. He had like eight touchdowns total and like five incompletions. That's great. Un-fucking-believable. That's the Mendoza kid. That's that kid Mendoza. And Miles said this, I didn't even know. Whenever they show the parents, they're always sitting down and celebrating. The dad doesn't stand up because his wife has MS and she can't stand up, so he only celebrates with her sitting down. Wow. It's like the sweetest fucking story. This kid won the Heisman, he's gonna be the number one pick, and he's just like, Catholic.

• 44:24Speaker 06

  Catholic. Who da-

• 44:26Speaker 05

  Just, it's an interesting point, just to add.

• 44:28Speaker 06

  I just can't believe you don't call ICE on him. Like, if it's a championship game, if it's, if, if everything is on the line.

• 44:35Speaker 05

  That's true.

• 44:35Speaker 06

  And we're just arresting American citizens anyway.

• 44:37Speaker 05

  That's true.

• 44:38Speaker 06

  Why aren't you going after the quarterback from the opposing team?

• 44:41Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. That is good strategy. Well, I mean, if you're a Miami fan, you probably can't call ICE. That's a good one. He probably compromised.

• 44:48Speaker 06

  He was about to be part of America, don't worry.

• 44:50Speaker 05

  Okay, fair enough. They're coming home. But dude, the last touchdown he scored was like, I think they were up, this is also fire, they were up seventeen to fourteen, Indiana was, and they had the ball at like the ten yard line, it's fourth and five. They could kick a field goal and go up twenty to fourteen. But if Miami scores a touchdown, now they're losing. So the head coach says, fuck it, let's go for it. This guy, who's the Heisman Trophy winner, who's gonna be the number one pick in his last game, just throws his body over the goal line to score a touchdown, gets fucking hit from in front and behind, and he just goes, my teammate, yeah, fast forward, then watch this. So he, also, he's already got the first down, but look at this.

• 45:29Speaker 06

  Oh, he can run too.

• 45:31Speaker 05

  Boom. He's not even a good runner, but he just won the game and he goes, look at this, he's fucking celebrating.

• 45:36Speaker 06

  Oh, I thought she was dying.

• 45:38Speaker 05

  Son, she can't stand, dude. She has MS, so you're not fully wrong, dude.

• 45:44Speaker 06

  I know, but when they cut to it, she was, my bad. That's really my bad.

• 45:51Speaker 06

  You know, there's a moment during the game where they cut to Abella Danger in the stands, she's a porn star. You know who she is? You know Abella Danger?

• 45:58Speaker 05

  No.

• 45:59Speaker 06

  You probably recognize the face, probably recognize the word. How do you guys, why do you guys wanna know the names of these? The only...

• 46:10Speaker 06

  Listen, she's a big University of Miami fan, I think she's, you know, furthering her education.

• 46:17Speaker 06

  Okay, that's one way of describing it, but she's very concerned, her team is losing.

• 46:22Speaker 06

  We don't know what she does for a living. She might have retired, I don't know. She might have retired, Al. Oh, if she retired, you know. Then...

• 46:31Speaker 05

  Can we see more pictures? You think it's kinda cute?

• 46:33Speaker 06

  Anyway, point is, they, they cut to her and like, you could tell someone in the booth, like some young kid was like tapping the director, because they cut away very fast. Like usually they'll milk a beautiful girl in the crowd for a little bit. That cutaway was instantaneous. There was an old director who wasn't up to date with the young porn stars, locked in and he was like, ooh, we got a beauty that's going through it right now, she's a Miami fan. And there was somebody tapping his knee, like...

• 47:02Mark Gagnon?

  You're gonna hear about this one. You're gonna hear.

• 47:04Speaker 06

  There she is.

• 47:06Speaker 05

  I mean.

• 47:07Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, I don't think I've ever seen her work.

• 47:09Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 47:10Speaker 06

  I don't even know how that's like physically possible, the position she's in right there.

• 47:13Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 47:13Speaker 05

  I mean.

• 47:15Speaker 04

  I mean, but with all due respect to like.

• 47:17Speaker 06

  But that's, can you go back to that one? Cause that would be, with all due respect, as you say, that would be the position to eat it, right?

• 47:24Mark Gagnon?

  It's very comfortable, right?

• 47:26Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 47:26Speaker 06

  Would that be?

• 47:27Mark Gagnon?

  It'd be comfortable, yeah, you don't have to like.

• 47:28Speaker 05

  No hesitation. Yeah, no hesitation. I'm hungry. I'm gaining weight for a reason.

• 47:33Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 47:33Speaker 05

  I'm a hungry boy.

• 47:34Speaker 04

  You could have a walking desk and make that work. That's fire. But I think like. What, you never got one of those?

• 47:42Speaker 04

  That's fire, fully standing. But if you're gonna be putting women on from Miami, there's a decent chance one of them has a, has a link tree.

• 47:51Mark Gagnon?

  What are you trying to say?

• 47:52Speaker 06

  A link tree?

• 47:54Speaker 04

  There's a lot of link trees in Miami.

• 47:55Mark Gagnon?

  What are you trying to say?

• 47:56Speaker 06

  A link tree is so funny.

• 47:57Speaker 04

  I've been to Miami and there's a lot of link trees in Miami.

• 48:00Speaker 06

  Listen, there is a guy who's running for governor, I think. He's got John Fishback, I think is his name? And he is proposing a sin tax.

• 48:08Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 48:09Speaker 06

  50% for OnlyFans models.

• 48:11Speaker 04

  Yeah, which is hilarious.

• 48:12Speaker 06

  In Florida?

• 48:13Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 48:13Speaker 06

  In Florida.

• 48:14Speaker 05

  Wow.

• 48:14Speaker 04

  Yeah, then if you are, if you're, if you got a link tree in Florida, you gotta pay 50%.

• 48:19Speaker 06

  Dude, I had a, I had a guy, I know, okay. I didn't even know Cuba was on the table. So I, I, I think.

• 48:26Speaker 05

  It's all on the table.

• 48:26Speaker 06

  I think Trump got like a boner after the, like, I think the Venezuela thing went too well. You know what I mean? Like, I actually think it like, if it didn't go so well, it might have been better for the state of the world.

• 48:37Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 48:38Speaker 06

  Because I think it went so well that Trump's like, oh, I could just kidnap people now, like wherever I want. And like.

• 48:43Speaker 05

  He's emboldened.

• 48:44Speaker 06

  Yeah, I, I really think, like, I don't even think in his head, he knew these things could happen.

• 48:49Speaker 05

  Yeah, now it's heat check.

• 48:50Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 48:52Speaker 05

  You get one from Long Range.

• 48:53Speaker 06

  He's on fire!

• 48:55Speaker 05

  See what else I got?

• 48:56Speaker 06

  Because he sends him shit like, you know, Cuba, figure it out. And then a guy told me today, he's like, uh, I wouldn't go long on Miami real estate right now. I go, why? What are you talking, like, I'm not buying anything fucking Miami, like, what do you mean? He goes, if Cuba comes on board, they're all gonna go back home. And he didn't say it sarcastically. He was like, I was speaking to some guys and they think they're like, you know, Cuba will be part of the United States of America. In some way, shape or form.

• 49:26Speaker 06

  I mean.

• 49:27Speaker 04

  I mean, this is the tricky part with modern imperialism is on the one hand, you're like, no, every nation is sovereign. You should respect their rights and their leaders. On the other hand.

• 49:34Speaker 05

  You're in the imperial style.

• 49:36Speaker 04

  Havana sounds awesome.

• 49:38Speaker 06

  You know, they got those old cars. Don't we want some old cars?

• 49:42Speaker 05

  It was supposed to be like a resort thing, wasn't it?

• 49:45Speaker 04

  That's how it was. That was the Vegas of the East Coast.

• 49:47Speaker 06

  But the, yeah, the mafia had it all locked up. What'd you say?

• 49:51Speaker 05

  I love me in Aruba.

• 49:51Speaker 06

  Yeah, so it's a, but I don't want to do that. I mean, I don't know. All this shit is just ugly. Like, it's just a shit. You should be able to do this shit diplomatically. You know what I mean? Like, like, even the Greenland shit, I cannot fathom that we cannot do whatever we want with Greenland. I find it hard to believe that we can't just call up Denmark and be like, yo, can we put a base over here? Yo, can we refine some minerals over here? I can't believe that Denmark is going, no, you can't. And we're not gonna allow that. Like, don't we already have a base there? Don't we already have a presence in Greenland?

• 50:20Mark Gagnon?

  We do, but like China was already like buying up mines and shit like that, so that's why.

• 50:24Speaker 06

  So then you make a phone call and be like, yo, don't sell them the mines, we'll buy the mines. Like, I feel like you can.

• 50:29Mark Gagnon?

  We did that already. This was like back in 2022, I believe. So now he's like, if it's just ours, now we can just, we don't have to buy shit.

• 50:37Speaker 05

  Can I?

• 50:38Speaker 06

  So this is the crazy thing. It's like, they do what you want, and then he goes, well, I might as well just take it if it's ours.

• 50:44Speaker 05

  No, oh, I thought they said no, and that's why he's like, maybe we just take it. They said yes to selling to the US?

• 50:49Mark Gagnon?

  No, no, no. They said no to selling to the US, but I'm talking about the, the mines, like letting other countries come in and collect some of their resources. Now Trump is just like, ah, if we own this shit, nobody can come in.

• 51:00Speaker 05

  Walk me through the hole in that logic. Which, which, yes, walk me through it. I'm not saying it doesn't exist. I'm just saying, you know.

• 51:08Speaker 06

  This is the funny shit. This is the.

• 51:09Speaker 05

  Which imperialism we want.

• 51:10Speaker 06

  So Martin and I were talking about this last night, but this is the funny shit about it is it like, it's made people defend uh, European colonialism, right? Cause like Trump's like, we're gonna take Greenland. And it's forced people to go, you can't take Greenland. White people in Europe already own them.

• 51:30Speaker 06

  Like, nobody's making the argument, that ethnic group that has existed there for thousands of years should have their own autonomy. Nobody's made that argument. Now one person said, free Greenland. They go, no, other white people bought them. They bought them and own them in perpetuity.

• 51:44Speaker 04

  Yes, we have to protect their flow of interest.

• 51:46Speaker 05

  Yes, important question. The people of Greenland, Greenland, sorry, are they not white?

• 51:51Speaker 06

  No, no, the people of Greenland are, um, they eat narwhal.

• 51:55Speaker 04

  Pull up a pic.

• 51:56Speaker 06

  Pull up a pic.

• 51:57Speaker 05

  I need to see what they optically look like before I decide how I feel about this.

• 52:00Speaker 06

  More, uh, I would say like Cambodian.

• 52:02Speaker 05

  Oh, we can't do that.

• 52:04Speaker 04

  Oh, really? They're Inuit vibes, right?

• 52:05Speaker 06

  Yeah, I think they're like. Oh, I didn't know. They're Inuit, yeah.

• 52:07Speaker 04

  First Nations.

• 52:08Speaker 05

  Then I'm not, I thought they were, you know, very white.

• 52:10Speaker 06

  I think people assume that they're like Vikings.

• 52:12Speaker 05

  Yeah, that's what I assume.

• 52:13Speaker 06

  Yeah, I thought it was just Denmark getting rid of their shit people.

• 52:17Speaker 06

  Ow.

• 52:18Speaker 04

  Denmark's Australia.

• 52:19Speaker 06

  Yeah, Denmark's Australia, exactly. No, I think they're more.

• 52:22Speaker 04

  Send the criminals over to Greenland.

• 52:24Speaker 05

  These girls are adorable, you can't do that to them.

• 52:26Speaker 06

  But isn't it funny that nobody is going, should, should Greenland be able to just be their own country? Like, that's not even on the table.

• 52:34Speaker 05

  That discussion is not allowed.

• 52:36Speaker 04

  Oh, hey, hey.

• 52:37Speaker 09

  This is Miss Greenland 2024.

• 52:39Speaker 06

  Let's go.

• 52:41Speaker 05

  I love that.

• 52:41Speaker 06

  I mean. We might need to take it. Hey, hey, run that narwhal. Narwhal!

• 52:50Speaker 06

  Nah.

• 52:51Speaker 05

  Jesus.

• 52:51Speaker 09

  I know.

• 52:52Speaker 04

  Oh, man. Are you, man? Yeah, she's beautiful, with all due respect.

• 52:56Speaker 06

  What's, you didn't say anything wrong.

• 52:58Speaker 04

  No, but I was thinking it.

• 53:02Speaker 04

  I did.

• 53:05Speaker 06

  Okay, with all due respect for the intrusive thoughts.

• 53:07Speaker 04

  Yeah, exactly, dude. I just saw myself ice fishing, dude. I wanted to find a hole, drop the rod in.

• 53:17Speaker 04

  With all due respect. I don't know why I thought that, I shouldn't have thought that. Come on.

• 53:22Speaker 05

  Well, okay.

• 53:23Speaker 06

  But that is kind of funny, right? Oh, yeah, these are the videos that we watch right here.

• 53:27Speaker 04

  Those are we?

• 53:28Speaker 06

  Dude, I send these videos to Mark, it's so funny. Can I say what you said, what I said? Okay, so this is narwhal, this is like a, uh, I guess now it's a, a very, well, it's always been a popular dish. Not that thing that they're eating, the first thing that they're eating.

• 53:42Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 53:42Speaker 06

  And they cut it up with this like curvy knife, I don't know the name of it. And, uh, this guy was doing this mukbang with the narwhal. You see how they cut it right there and then they dip it in this like little soy sauce thing? And this guy was doing this, this video and he was like, you know, this is a, a delicacy for us and it's how we honor our ancestors. And I sent the video to Mark and I was like, look, this is how they honor their ancestors. And he goes, you want to honor your ancestors, eat a fucking burger. They didn't want to eat narwhal? Are you out of your mind? Yeah. Oh, this is the guy, this is the guy I watch his videos all the time, his name is Brandon, what is it?

• 54:15Speaker 05

  Brandon Cadwall. Cadwall.

• 54:18Speaker 04

  Yeah, and he's Greenlandish?

• 54:20Speaker 06

  No, I think he's from, uh...

• 54:22Mark Gagnon?

  I wanna understand the people. What's all the face tattoos and all that shit?

• 54:26Speaker 06

  I think it's cultural.

• 54:27Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's like indigenous, like the Maori.

• 54:29Speaker 06

  Yeah, the Maori people. Anyway, gotta try it.

• 54:33Mark Gagnon?

  Bunch of drill rappers over there.

• 54:35Speaker 04

  But yeah, I bet, like, I don't know. I recognize on the one hand, like, people's relationships with their ancestors are probably tenuous, specifically in colonial states, and it's probably hard, right? You try to reconnect with something that was taken from you. With that said...

• 54:44Speaker 06

  Talk that shit.

• 54:45Speaker 04

  With that said...

• 54:46Speaker 06

  That was some chatty B2B.

• 54:47Mark Gagnon?

  I know.

• 54:49Speaker 06

  How can I defend this offensive thing that I'm about to say?

• 54:52Speaker 04

  With that said, if you went to your ancestors and you were like, "Yo, I got some narwhal for you," they'd be like, "Fuck, no. We don't want this."

• 54:58Speaker 06

  You got AC.

• 54:59Speaker 04

  We want to go to Chili's. We wanna be in America. Like, let's roll.

• 55:03Mark Gagnon?

  But what if it tastes good?

• 55:05Speaker 04

  It probably tastes good, but nothing tastes better than a fucking Big Mac at 2 a.m.

• 55:09Mark Gagnon?

  You convince yourself to buy overpriced sushi.

• 55:11Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 55:12Mark Gagnon?

  All the time. Ain't that just the same shit?

• 55:14Speaker 06

  Well, if it was good, wouldn't it be available everywhere else? That's the thing, like, good food...

• 55:19Speaker 04

  Maybe the world hasn't caught up yet.

• 55:22Speaker 06

  I don't think there's one dish that's not delicious that isn't in, uh, every major city on the planet.

• 55:28Speaker 04

  Hmm.

• 55:29Speaker 06

  Hmm. Cause if it's really that good, we're gonna go fish your seas so you don't have it anymore. Right? Like, wouldn't, isn't that kind of how we...

• 55:36Speaker 04

  But every now and again, some new shit drops, so we're like, "Wait, this was here the whole time?"

• 55:39Speaker 06

  Break it down.

• 55:39Mark Gagnon?

  We didn't even know what Greenland people looked like until right now.

• 55:42Speaker 04

  I knew.

• 55:43Speaker 06

  Probably cause they didn't have any food worth eating.

• 55:46Mark Gagnon?

  We gotta try this shit.

• 55:47Speaker 04

  We didn't know about...

• 55:48Speaker 06

  I don't think he's from Greenland. We should check that out, though. I thought he was... I thought he was Alaskan, maybe.

• 55:53Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, we have to be accurate, you know, on our podcast.

• 55:55Speaker 06

  We got, listen.

• 55:57Speaker 06

  We're changing culture. This podcast will literally change culture, and we gotta make sure.

• 56:02Speaker 04

  More specifically, we are, it helps with stereotypes. You know what I mean? If you're too broad, then it's like, "Ah, what are we even talking about?" If you get real nuanced, oh, that's a speed spot. But, uh...

• 56:11Speaker 05

  Canadian Inuit.

• 56:12Speaker 04

  Oh, hell.

• 56:13Mark Gagnon?

  Canadian Inuit.

• 56:14Speaker 04

  Nice.

• 56:14Speaker 06

  There you go.

• 56:15Speaker 04

  But yeah, I'm like, I don't know, there's some shit we just found out. Like, people weren't eating, like, salmon sushi until like 30 years ago. You know what I mean?

• 56:22Speaker 06

  Yeah, because salmon isn't indigenous to Japan.

• 56:25Speaker 04

  Right.

• 56:25Speaker 06

  I read this, that like Norway had this excess...

• 56:28Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 56:29Speaker 06

  They had this, like, hundreds of pounds of salmon, they just had to get rid of it, so I guess they sold it to Japan.

• 56:34Speaker 04

  And they kinda branded it as, like, new sushi.

• 56:36Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 56:36Speaker 04

  But we just found out about that. Remember Chia? Where was Chia this whole time?

• 56:40Mark Gagnon?

  Pets?

• 56:41Speaker 06

  The seeds?

• 56:42Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, yeah, yeah.

• 56:42Speaker 04

  No one ever heard of Chia? That was in every pudding for like five years.

• 56:45Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, but I feel like we could live without that. Like, that's gonna work its course.

• 56:48Speaker 04

  But there's so many things like that.

• 56:49Speaker 06

  Asahi.

• 56:50Speaker 04

  What even, you know what I mean?

• 56:52Speaker 06

  Didn't know about that till 10, 15 years ago.

• 56:54Mark Gagnon?

  Asahi bangs, asahi bangs.

• 56:55Speaker 04

  Yeah, there's probably some little sneaky Indian dish that no one even knows about that's like, oh, this is fire.

• 57:00Mark Gagnon?

  Great time for a joke. Who wants to throw it out?

• 57:03Mark Gagnon?

  This is the perfect time.

• 57:04Speaker 06

  I thought, I thought it would happen. I prepared myself mentally.

• 57:08Speaker 04

  Angel hair pasta? Maybe? I'm like, I don't know. I'm trying to think.

• 57:12Mark Gagnon?

  Nah, we gotta try. We gotta give it a try.

• 57:14Speaker 06

  Nah, we gotta do it.

• 57:15Mark Gagnon?

  It might be delicious.

• 57:16Speaker 04

  It probably is though, right?

• 57:17Mark Gagnon?

  And then you could open your first, whatever that food is called, spot here in New York.

• 57:21Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 57:22Mark Gagnon?

  I can remember it in the end.

• 57:24Speaker 06

  I don't, narwhal.

• 57:25Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 57:26Speaker 06

  Narwhal. Narwhal are those little like, um, it looks like a, a seal with a huge horn, like a unicorn.

• 57:34Mark Gagnon?

  Let's get back to the show. Did we figure out the daycare situation yet?

• 57:38Speaker 04

  Nah, truth is unknowable. We're beyond truth.

• 57:40Speaker 06

  We are beyond truth.

• 57:41Mark Gagnon?

  We are beyond.

• 57:42Speaker 06

  Some of them gotta be legit.

• 57:43Speaker 04

  You can't know anything.

• 57:44Mark Gagnon?

  Some of them are legit.

• 57:45Speaker 06

  How, can we talk about how frustrating that must be? If you had a legit Somali daycare?

• 57:52Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 57:52Speaker 06

  In the city where there are illegit, illegitimate ones?

• 57:55Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 57:55Speaker 06

  And what they're going through?

• 57:56Mark Gagnon?

  And then you got a bunch of white people knocking on your doors with cameras.

• 57:59Speaker 06

  Where the kid?

• 58:01Mark Gagnon?

  That's scary shit.

• 58:02Speaker 06

  Isn't that fucking crazy?

• 58:04Speaker 04

  There are probably some concerned parents watching the video being like, that's the daycare my kid goes to. Where is the kid? Wait a second.

• 58:11Speaker 06

  So does anybody, did anybody get to the bottom of this story or no? No, I don't think it's been solved.

• 58:16Speaker 04

  No. But probably the truth is somewhere in the middle where like, there's some fraud and there's some legit and, uh, the reality will probably never make the light of day.

• 58:23Mark Gagnon?

  And then I shot a lady in the face for three times, so kinda derailed the story.

• 58:28Speaker 06

  You kill a story with a story.

• 58:29Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 58:29Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 58:29Speaker 06

  Nice job, Ice. Yeah, we started talking about that and we stopped talking about the Somali daycares.

• 58:34Speaker 04

  Exactly.

• 58:34Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 58:35Speaker 04

  Most important thing when reading the news is that whatever you believe is what you're reading. And like, as long as it reinforces that, that's how I live. I just, I believe something and then if I read news that goes against that, I say it's not real. And if it doesn't support, then I just would say that's actually the truth.

• 58:48Speaker 06

  That is the internet, right? Like, I will scroll on TikTok when the news story comes out and there is a guy going, debunking the whole Somali fraud, and then there's another guy going, exposing the whole Somali fraud. It's the exact same information.

• 59:00Speaker 04

  Yeah, just pick your favorite one. Just pick.

• 59:02Speaker 06

  That's the problem.

• 59:03Speaker 04

  That's the beauty, just pick.

• 59:05Speaker 06

  And maybe that is.

• 59:06Speaker 04

  Think critically, you just go, oh, nice, I was right the whole time. What are the odds? I've been right 20 times out of 20.

• 59:10Speaker 06

  Isn't it so much easier? It is so much easier to just pick a side and like ride for that. Like, I get when I see people do that on the internet. Like, I get why, like, we're talking about like the binary. It's either, the internet right now, it's either America first, or America last. And that's it.

• 59:25Speaker 05

  America last.

• 59:26Speaker 06

  Meaning like, everything America does is bad.

• 59:30Speaker 05

  Oh, yeah.

• 59:30Speaker 06

  Like, like.

• 59:31Speaker 05

  Or everything America does is perfect and done for a reason.

• 59:33Speaker 06

  Right, like, everything America, everything America does, or everything Trump is doing is 100% legitimate, and we need to do it for whatever bullshit reason, they'll find some fucking bullshit excuse to justify it. Or, every single thing that's happening in America is bad, and this is why it's bad. And like, if you view it through that lens, there is a massive audience of people that will consume your content on a regular basis, because they're like, I already feel this thing, and I need somebody to justify it. And that is the internet. And this massive space in the middle, which like, we assume most people feel, right? Like, we assume there's a lot of like, normal, regular folks out there, that are looking at the Smiley daycare thing, they're like, okay, there's definitely fraud, but like, there's no way every single one of them are fraudulent. Like, there are children there.

• 1:00:12Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:00:13Speaker 06

  They need to go to a fucking daycare.

• 1:00:14Speaker 05

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:00:15Speaker 06

  Right? It's not like there are no kids in these places, like, they're stuffing them somewhere.

• 1:00:19Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:00:20Speaker 06

  So, but there's no creator that's going, well, here's the boring gray middle ground of what's happening.

• 1:00:26Speaker 05

  Yeah, there's no clicks in it.

• 1:00:27Speaker 06

  There's no clicks, there's no views, and if, there's no clicks and there's no views in it.

• 1:00:30Speaker 05

  There's no money in it.

• 1:00:31Speaker 06

  And then they're not talking about it.

• 1:00:32Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:00:33Speaker 06

  So it's like, it's almost like, if you remove the financial reward of the internet.

• 1:00:37Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:00:38Speaker 06

  If you completely remove monetization, I wonder if it softened it.

• 1:00:43Speaker 05

  Which is funny, because that's what we used to say about the news. They're all just paying it bills.

• 1:00:46Speaker 06

  Right, like.

• 1:00:47Speaker 05

  They got ads to sell.

• 1:00:47Speaker 06

  Because didn't that, didn't that happen? Like, that's a perfect example of the news. You go to Fox News, or CNN, or whatever the hell it is, it's like, okay, you're just gonna feed that narrative, whatever the fuck it is, and that there's a lot of money to make in that narrative, because these people already feel that way, like you were saying. And, you know, same thing goes to the left and the right. The internet has done that and now it's not only five news programs.

• 1:01:05Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:01:06Speaker 06

  Now it's everybody with a phone that wants to talk about something.

• 1:01:08Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:01:09Speaker 06

  And those audiences exist and they're super radicalized. And I'd like to assume that the majority of people are here. But now, I don't know, like if you go on the internet, you're like, I don't think there's anybody in the middle.

• 1:01:20Speaker 05

  And now that you're competing with a billion other creators as opposed to eight different news networks. Now you gotta up the morphine.

• 1:01:26Speaker 06

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:01:27Speaker 05

  On what your truth is or what you present that gets clicks and views. So it's getting crazier than any of the stuff that we said was fake news.

• 1:01:33Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:01:33Speaker 05

  I remember when Trump appointed RFK and they were making all these promises about getting real sugar out of soda and whatever, making food more natural. Some liberal guy on Twitter was like, this isn't actually a fix for anything. The only thing that matters is calories in, calories out. This is, and it's like, yeah, but also isn't it good to get chemicals out of food? Wouldn't we all just agree baseline on that? And he was like, this does nothing. And then it had so many retweets and I checked the comments just to see. And everybody's like, I know it's a false, whatever, it's another lie that they're feeding us. And it's like, oh, okay, you guys want to believe that. Can't find a middle ground and that's just what it is.

• 1:02:08Speaker 04

  Yes, that's so much easier, dude.

• 1:02:11Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:02:11Speaker 04

  But realistically, most of the people that you talk to in your day to day life, do you find that they're pretty normal?

• 1:02:17Speaker 05

  The most normal.

• 1:02:18Speaker 04

  Like, that's how I feel. I'm like, I just choose not to believe the like radical binary. Cause it's like the real people I'm talking to are like kind and they have different opinions, but like, you know, they're nuanced. And if they don't know, they go, oh yeah, I don't know, I'm not a, you know.

• 1:02:29Speaker 06

  Everybody except the flagrant group chat. Yeah, the flagrant group chat is a perfect example of the internet.

• 1:02:34Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:02:35Speaker 06

  But yeah, that is how I feel when I talk to regular people. And it's a shame. Yeah, it's a shame that there's not more of a space for that, right? Like, I almost feel like you think the pendulum would swing away from the extremes. But I think the pendulum has swung towards apathy or distraction.

• 1:02:57Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:02:57Speaker 06

  So instead of going, I don't want the extremes, I want a nuanced take. I think it's, I'm gonna watch Landman.

• 1:03:03Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:03:03Speaker 06

  Right? It's just like, I'm gonna watch TV. I just want to escape from this. Don't give me anything political.

• 1:03:08Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:03:09Speaker 06

  You know, I'm gonna watch Handmaid's or whatever that movie was that Sydney Sweeney was in.

• 1:03:13Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:03:13Speaker 06

  You know, I'm gonna watch Avatar. I just need to escape from whatever the fuck these conversations are online that are just causing me dread.

• 1:03:20Speaker 04

  Yeah, it does make you feel dread. My phone is just, it's a Viking simulator.

• 1:03:23Speaker 06

  What does that mean?

• 1:03:24Speaker 04

  It's just, it's, it's OnlyFans girls and then just death. Like, it's just like pillaging and sex. It's just like, every time I scroll, it's just like the most base, human primal instinct of just like carnage, hot girl.

• 1:03:37Speaker 06

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:03:39Speaker 04

  Literally, it's just like, it's, yeah, I think it's bad for people's brains. And I think detaching and tending to your garden and just actually like interfacing with real human beings that you love and care about is probably the most effective.

• 1:03:50Mark Gagnon?

  This guy got a roof and a garden, like, god damn.

• 1:03:56Speaker 06

  He's living, bro. Yeah, bro, yo, let me hose him. His whole I don't shower thing is so we don't know.

• 1:04:02Speaker 04

  Exactly.

• 1:04:03Speaker 06

  Let me hose him, let me hose him.

• 1:04:05Speaker 04

  If you have enough, you're rich. I'm telling you, dude, you just gotta log off. Log off the internet. Everyone quit. It doesn't matter. It's over. It's over. The internet is a failed experiment.

• 1:04:14Speaker 06

  Right after this episode.

• 1:04:15Speaker 04

  No, right now. Right now. It doesn't matter, dude.

• 1:04:19Speaker 06

  No, it's true.

• 1:04:19Speaker 05

  Right now, after this ad break.

• 1:04:20Speaker 04

  Call your mom. Call your, hug your children, okay? The words of Mother Teresa, "If you want to change the world, love your family," dude. That's the only thing that actually matters.

• 1:04:29Speaker 06

  Does she have a family?

• 1:04:31Speaker 04

  She was a sister. Had many sisters.

• 1:04:33Speaker 05

  Yo, that was good. That was good. That was good.

• 1:04:36Speaker 04

  Thousands of sisters.

• 1:04:37Speaker 06

  So close. So close, Mama T. So close. All right, what'd you say? She's half Indian.

• 1:04:46Speaker 05

  Yeah, that's, Mark asked me if I resent her.

• 1:04:47Speaker 06

  Wasn't she Albanian too?

• 1:04:48Speaker 04

  Yeah, Albanian.

• 1:04:49Speaker 05

  Indian-Albanian, I think.

• 1:04:50Speaker 06

  And what a connection, huh?

• 1:04:51Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:04:53Speaker 06

  Yeah. Indian-Albanian.

• 1:04:55Speaker 04

  It's a good mix.

• 1:04:56Speaker 06

  How do you even get that?

• 1:04:57Speaker 05

  Really, probably had to get mistreated by a lot of men.

• 1:05:03Speaker 05

  Really, you know what I mean? Like, it was rough, dude.

• 1:05:07Speaker 06

  Finding Jesus was the best thing that could ever happen. Because either direction she went, it was gonna be abuse and sabotage.

• 1:05:13Speaker 04

  Yeah. The perfect man, turns out. She was ethnically Indian?

• 1:05:17Speaker 06

  That's so.

• 1:05:18Speaker 04

  Oh, I had no idea. I thought she was.

• 1:05:19Speaker 05

  That's why, I thought you asked me if I had like ill feelings toward her.

• 1:05:22Mark Gagnon?

  You said that in a way you were disappointed.

• 1:05:25Speaker 06

  What's wrong with that? Hey, bro.

• 1:05:31Speaker 06

  Shout out to Albanians, bro. What's wrong with that?

• 1:05:33Speaker 04

  I thought she was birded up. I thought she was full blackbird. That's what I thought it was.

• 1:05:37Speaker 06

  Alright, that's better. That's better, bro. I thought she was talking shit. You're not gonna be able to eat in a famiglio pizza in New York City again if you keep talking shit about the Albanians, bro. They run the pizza shops in New York City. Shout out to y'all.

• 1:05:51Speaker 04

  Wait, what is this? Pro football championship?

• 1:05:52Speaker 05

  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. The playoffs have also been awesome.

• 1:05:56Speaker 06

  Yo, right when we needed great distraction?

• 1:05:58Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:05:59Speaker 06

  This is why you think it might be a simulation? It's just like, right when America's about to tear itself apart, we're fucking invading all these countries with no good reason whatsoever.

• 1:06:07Speaker 05

  Can you pull up the Caleb play, Joey?

• 1:06:08Speaker 06

  Football steps in and it's absolutely fantastic.

• 1:06:10Speaker 05

  Un-fucking-believable, dude. You watched the Bears and Rams game?

• 1:06:15Speaker 04

  Yeah, I was, I was, I was just fixated.

• 1:06:17Speaker 05

  It was perfect.

• 1:06:18Speaker 04

  Like, it's the greatest football game ever. You went to the game? No, I just watched it.

• 1:06:21Speaker 05

  No, he just watched it.

• 1:06:22Speaker 04

  I never watched a football game really.

• 1:06:24Speaker 06

  You turned the TV on? This is...

• 1:06:25Speaker 04

  Someone else had it on. Actually, Zom, you know Zom.

• 1:06:28Speaker 06

  Yo, shout out Zom.

• 1:06:29Speaker 04

  He took me around Salt Lake and then on the way home...

• 1:06:32Speaker 06

  He's a good guy.

• 1:06:32Speaker 04

  He messed up his shoulder on the last run. He did so much great stuff for us and then some kid hit him from behind and broke his shoulder.

• 1:06:38Speaker 05

  Ah, brutal.

• 1:06:40Speaker 04

  Yeah, and then drove home the whole way one-handed, watching the game. And I was like, "You want me to drive?" He's like, "No, no, it's fine."

• 1:06:46Speaker 06

  And he's, he's a snowboard instructor. Like, he has to be out there, ooh.

• 1:06:50Speaker 04

  Yeah. I don't know the exact diagnosis, but I think he's totally messed up.

• 1:06:53Speaker 05

  Let me walk you through this game. Chicago.

• 1:06:55Speaker 06

  Are we talking about Zom? I don't care about that.

• 1:06:59Speaker 05

  I don't know this man. I don't know him.

• 1:07:00Speaker 06

  Nah, he's a good guy.

• 1:07:01Speaker 04

  Next thing you go out there, he's gonna take you to a...

• 1:07:03Speaker 05

  Hey, you know, shout Zom. I hope you're okay, man.

• 1:07:04Speaker 06

  He's Indian, by the way.

• 1:07:05Speaker 05

  Oh, oh. Is there a GoFundMe? I'm sorry. What is Zom short for?

• 1:07:11Speaker 04

  Zombinde.

• 1:07:12Speaker 05

  Zombinde? Sassy God, gee, are you okay, dude? I'll send you some money, man. Let me know.

• 1:07:19Speaker 06

  Indians bring out the best of our guys, man. It's a beautiful soul as long as...

• 1:07:23Speaker 04

  Or the worst.

• 1:07:31Speaker 05

  Let me know how, let me let you know how cheap I am.

• 1:07:34Mark Gagnon?

  Tell me.

• 1:07:34Speaker 05

  I did a very kind thing where like it was cold, you gotta get gas, we got gas in New Jersey. And it was fucking freezing. I saw this Indian dude pumping gas, older, so I tipped him. And all I had on me was a hundred. So I gave him the hundred. And that shit still hurts my feelings to this day. Like it's still, I'm like, god damn dude, I didn't have a fucking twenty on me?

• 1:07:55Mark Gagnon?

  Damn.

• 1:07:55Speaker 05

  Damn!

• 1:07:57Mark Gagnon?

  Both these guys, but he tipping hundreds, this guy got gone and rose like. Yo, what's up?

• 1:08:03Speaker 06

  Can we guess something over here, bro?

• 1:08:04Speaker 04

  We gotta check the books.

• 1:08:05Speaker 06

  Damn.

• 1:08:06Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, we do.

• 1:08:07Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:08:07Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah. We gotta check the books.

• 1:08:09Speaker 05

  Son, if he was any other race, I'd have been like, hey man, sorry it's cold.

• 1:08:13Mark Gagnon?

  Vroom, vroom.

• 1:08:14Speaker 06

  That's come on, bro.

• 1:08:15Speaker 05

  But as an Indian, older Indian, I'm seeing him fucking bundled up. You know how cold it was yesterday? It's almost as cold as it was this morning. And seventeen degrees, if those of you who weren't listening. And this guy's out there pumping gas. I felt so bad. All, I gave him whatever I had. And if he wasn't Indian, I wouldn't have done it. But this is how cheap I am. That shit is eating away at me. I woke up this morning, I was like, god damn it.

• 1:08:36Mark Gagnon?

  So now you gotta go back a few times, don't tip.

• 1:08:39Speaker 04

  Bounce it out.

• 1:08:40Speaker 05

  Decent weather, I'm gonna do that.

• 1:08:41Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:08:42Speaker 05

  Give me a fifty degree day. Probably not gonna happen until May, but I'm gonna go back. I'm gonna look for that same motherfucker.

• 1:08:48Speaker 04

  What, what kind of Indian, do you know?

• 1:08:50Speaker 05

  Uh.

• 1:08:51Speaker 04

  Kathagianian?

• 1:08:51Speaker 06

  Who usually owns the gas stations? Is it?

• 1:08:54Speaker 05

  It's usually Punjabi or Gujaratis. Yeah.

• 1:08:56Speaker 06

  Or Gujaratis?

• 1:08:56Speaker 05

  Yeah. Usually Punjabi, second option Gujarati.

• 1:08:59Speaker 06

  Okay, so Punjabis are the gas stations and the hotels, right?

• 1:09:02Speaker 05

  Gujaratis are hotels.

• 1:09:04Speaker 06

  Oh, I thought the Punjabis are the hotels.

• 1:09:05Speaker 05

  Gujaratis are hotels, dude.

• 1:09:06Speaker 06

  But it is one ethnic group of Indians that own like eighty percent of motels in America.

• 1:09:11Speaker 05

  Patel's.

• 1:09:11Speaker 06

  The Patel's.

• 1:09:12Speaker 05

  Cartel, yeah.

• 1:09:13Speaker 06

  They call it the Patel cartel?

• 1:09:15Speaker 05

  Yeah. Yeah. Patel Hotel Cartel.

• 1:09:17Speaker 04

  Yeah, that's kinda nice.

• 1:09:18Speaker 06

  Can I just tell you something?

• 1:09:19Mark Gagnon?

  That's fine, I like that.

• 1:09:20Speaker 06

  They're doing a fantastic job.

• 1:09:21Mark Gagnon?

  I wanna get down with that.

• 1:09:22Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:09:24Speaker 06

  Because nobody's even brought it up.

• 1:09:26Speaker 05

  Oh, that, yeah, okay.

• 1:09:27Speaker 06

  Like, if we had a problem with it, people would be like, well, why the fuck does eighty percent of the?

• 1:09:32Speaker 04

  No, there will be YouTube videos soon.

• 1:09:33Speaker 06

  Of course. But, but like, what I'm saying is like, nobody's doing eighty-

• 1:09:36Mark Gagnon?

  Nick Shirley?

• 1:09:38Speaker 06

  Investigate!

• 1:09:39Speaker 04

  The motel addicted Punjabi shit.

• 1:09:42Speaker 06

  But like, nobody brings up a single issue about it, there's no...

• 1:09:45Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:09:46Speaker 06

  It is something interesting about Indians.

• 1:09:48Speaker 05

  Well, that one, one...

• 1:09:49Speaker 06

  Nobody's upset at the fucking Subway sandwiches?

• 1:09:53Speaker 05

  Yeah, oh, that's all Indian. Son, I went to London, or England, and the Subways were owned by Indians. I was like, "God damn, dude, this is international."

• 1:09:59Speaker 06

  So what does that say?

• 1:10:00Speaker 05

  Do we like... That you shouldn't trust the Subway sandwiches in your fucking life, dude.

• 1:10:04Speaker 06

  Wait, why? Why?

• 1:10:06Speaker 05

  Yo, when you think they started putting yoga mats in the food, that didn't seem fishy to any of you?

• 1:10:10Speaker 06

  I knew.

• 1:10:10Speaker 05

  The crossover is too perfect. I knew there was a connection there. I knew there was a connection.

• 1:10:14Speaker 04

  You guys love trans, dude. You heard Subway, you're like...

• 1:10:18Speaker 06

  This is good, this is good.

• 1:10:19Speaker 05

  Oh, man, deadass, I don't trust the Subway. Son, we went to India, got sick, the Subway in India, and we got sick on the way. I don't know why we ate it twice. We ate Subway in America before we left, got sick in America, then went ahead to India, got more sick.

• 1:10:33Speaker 06

  I take back what I said about Indians bringing out the best in our...

• 1:10:35Speaker 05

  I told you.

• 1:10:36Speaker 06

  I completely take it back.

• 1:10:37Speaker 05

  I ate there twice!

• 1:10:38Speaker 06

  It took him 60 seconds before he was like, "Fuck all these motherfuckers."

• 1:10:40Speaker 05

  I ate there twice! I support. I support my dollars. I buy Brown On. What about y'all?

• 1:10:46Speaker 06

  We buy Brown On too. We were saying we love the hotel chains that they're doing, and we love Subway. But we have no criticisms about it. It's always coming from you. Grabs in a barrel.

• 1:10:53Mark Gagnon?

  I like chai from your chai spot. I don't know the name, but I like it.

• 1:10:56Speaker 05

  Fonties. Fontanias.

• 1:10:57Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, he was close.

• 1:10:59Speaker 06

  Is that right down the block?

• 1:10:59Speaker 05

  Fonties, yeah. It's 15 minute walk, probably. It's West Village. Fonties is the chain. Went a little viral.

• 1:11:06Speaker 04

  Really?

• 1:11:06Speaker 05

  Yeah, they got sandwiches there that are very good as well, and the chai's nice.

• 1:11:09Speaker 04

  What kind of sandwiches?

• 1:11:11Speaker 05

  They have like subs.

• 1:11:13Mark Gagnon?

  Yoga mat bread?

• 1:11:14Speaker 05

  No, they're good, dude. They have like a chicken tikka panini, panini, like a butter chicken, or naanini it's called. So it's naan as a panini.

• 1:11:22Mark Gagnon?

  You don't even know, yo.

• 1:11:23Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:11:24Mark Gagnon?

  Just like Indian culture.

• 1:11:26Speaker 05

  True.

• 1:11:27Speaker 04

  The Indian food hybrid is fire. There was a spot in my town that was Indian Mexican food, and it was like Indian butter burritos.

• 1:11:33Speaker 05

  Yuba City, shout out.

• 1:11:35Speaker 04

  Fire. And it's so, like quesadilla with like biryani. It's unbelievable.

• 1:11:39Speaker 05

  There's a taco mahal also, tacos with butter chicken.

• 1:11:42Speaker 04

  Great.

• 1:11:42Speaker 05

  Crazy.

• 1:11:43Speaker 04

  Yeah. See, this is the beauty of diversity, you know what I mean? D E I. Bring them together.

• 1:11:48Mark Gagnon?

  Only in New York.

• 1:11:49Speaker 05

  You know what? That is only in New York.

• 1:11:51Speaker 04

  And it's not in Florida, though.

• 1:11:52Speaker 06

  Everybody, yo, shout out, first of all, shout out Mexicans, because it's almost all of the mixed cuisines are just your shit and Mexican. Right? It's like, here's an Asian thing, but Mexican.

• 1:12:06Speaker 05

  Nah, Indian Asian is Indo-Chinese is a...

• 1:12:08Speaker 06

  But that's the same thing.

• 1:12:12Mark Gagnon?

  We got that fire Chinese Puerto Rican spot in the L E S.

• 1:12:16Speaker 06

  That's, you know. What I'm saying is like, people love the Latin food so much and then they realize people love it. So what they do is they put their shit on the Latin food. The same way they like white people white up Indian food, like other cultures have realized like, okay, Latin food is fire, so let's just do our shit on top of the Latin and then it's gonna work. And it works every single fucking time.

• 1:12:36Speaker 08

  Yeah. Can I, can I name one I went to recently?

• 1:12:39Speaker 06

  Please.

• 1:12:39Speaker 08

  Fire, Shalom Japan.

• 1:12:41Mark Gagnon?

  Aw, he's feeling better now.

• 1:12:43Speaker 06

  Jewish, Jewish.

• 1:12:45Speaker 08

  Japanese.

• 1:12:45Speaker 06

  Japanese.

• 1:12:46Speaker 08

  Double Jap. It was fire, dude.

• 1:12:48Speaker 06

  That is.

• 1:12:51Speaker 06

  That is fantastic.

• 1:12:53Speaker 08

  Jap Square, dude.

• 1:12:55Speaker 06

  Jap Square is fucking incredible. And Miles is so depressed that he didn't even give it a chuckle.

• 1:13:02Speaker 08

  Come on, bro. No, that's a fire. Come on, dude. Yeah, that place rules. Check that one out, too. That's a great one. It's in Williamsburg.

• 1:13:09Mark Gagnon?

  Miles, what's wrong, man?

• 1:13:11Speaker 06

  Yeah, why you sad?

• 1:13:12Speaker 08

  I promise nothing's wrong.

• 1:13:13Speaker 06

  Nah, something's wrong. We don't feel the positivity. We don't feel the excitement from you, man.

• 1:13:20Speaker 08

  Uh, everything's great. I don't know how to, I don't know how to win here.

• 1:13:24Mark Gagnon?

  You know it's bad, he doesn't wanna even bring it in.

• 1:13:26Speaker 06

  It's really bad, isn't it?

• 1:13:28Speaker 08

  No, it's fine.

• 1:13:29Speaker 06

  Yo, Shifty, what's going on with Miles, man?

• 1:13:34Mark Gagnon?

  Gotta be in a mic. You got shipped in trouble for snitching last time.

• 1:13:38Speaker 06

  So he's not gonna say shit now?

• 1:13:39Speaker 08

  Yeah, he's on, he's on.

• 1:13:40Speaker 05

  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:13:42Speaker 08

  Alright, fine.

• 1:13:43Speaker 05

  Yo, can we watch this football play, please?

• 1:13:44Speaker 08

  Fine, let's go.

• 1:13:45Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, brother.

• 1:13:46Speaker 05

  Half black people are capable of it, cuz this could be your kid.

• 1:13:55Speaker 06

  Yo.

• 1:13:55Mark Gagnon?

  This thing is crazy.

• 1:14:00Speaker 05

  Yo, look at this. Fourth and four, 27 seconds left. Look at this fucking play.

• 1:14:04Speaker 08

  Runs from the cops.

• 1:14:04Speaker 05

  Caleb Williams embarrassed to the back.

• 1:14:06Speaker 08

  Perfect.

• 1:14:07Speaker 05

  Is that not the craziest shit you've ever seen? That's truly the craziest play I've ever seen in my life. That was impressive. Fourth and four, he's at his own, or at the Rams 14 yard line. He runs back 27 yards. He goes all the way back to the 40 and then just throws the fucking off both feet. No feet on the ground, just throws it touchdown, ties the game. And then he throws a pick and they lose it in overtime, which is the saddest shit.

• 1:14:33Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:14:33Speaker 06

  Which quarterback is that?

• 1:14:34Speaker 05

  Caleb Williams.

• 1:14:35Speaker 06

  So what are we thinking for the championship games?

• 1:14:38Speaker 05

  I, I think the Rams, they have a, they're 27% on Kal, Kal she. I think that's a good bet because Seattle's a, they dominated San Francisco.

• 1:14:45Speaker 06

  Oh my God.

• 1:14:46Speaker 05

  But people don't necessarily trust their quarterback in big moments. Matthew Stafford is a bad motherfucker. And for the Rams, dude, he had a game winning drive against the Patriots in the first playoff game. Uh, but right before the drive starts, he goes up to Devante Adams, another receiver. And he goes, hey, let's go snatch their hearts out. And he just does exactly that. Shows a phenomenal touchdown pass. White boy. Yeah, dude, I love a cold white boy. Cold ass white boy. Yeah, let's go snatch their hearts. Boom. It's just, so I think, I think they, I think they win it. I, they haven't been playing great, but I think they're the team that I trust the most.

• 1:15:18Speaker 06

  27% chance.

• 1:15:19Speaker 05

  Yeah, that's why I feel like the odds are kind of the best there. Seahawks got 40, I just don't, most people don't really trust Sam Darnold in the biggest moments. Who's their quarterback? I, if he won, it'd be great. But I, if I had to put it down, I'd, I'd say Los Angeles just because they got good odds. Denver's fucked. If they won, I'd be astonished.

• 1:15:35Speaker 06

  What a fucking shame.

• 1:15:36Speaker 05

  I know, dude. Their quarterback got injured with three plays left in overtime. Yeah. And then on the kneel, when you like kneel the, the ball down, it got worse, it seems like. Cause he started limping really badly, broke his ankle out for the rest of the season. No.

• 1:15:48Speaker 06

  So the Bills aren't in it.

• 1:15:49Speaker 05

  Yeah, Josh Allen.

• 1:15:50Speaker 06

  And the Broncos are just gonna end up losing anyway. And that was a kind of shitty call. I mean, I don't know, what was your take on the?

• 1:15:55Speaker 05

  So they had one like 50 50 ball that every official seems to say was an interception.

• 1:15:59Speaker 06

  Get that video up.

• 1:16:00Speaker 05

  Against the Bills and like the Broncos got the ball.

• 1:16:03Speaker 06

  They said it was, the official said it was.

• 1:16:04Speaker 05

  Every official says it was an interception.

• 1:16:06Speaker 06

  And why do they consider it an interception?

• 1:16:08Speaker 05

  I don't know, because to me, you catch the ball. So the receiver catches the ball, his knee is down, he gets touched. It's his ball.

• 1:16:14Speaker 06

  So catches it down and then after he's down. So I guess the argument they're making is that he didn't have clear possession of the ball. It was shared possession and then it was ripped out.

• 1:16:26Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:16:27Speaker 06

  They both have possession, I imagine there. Is that the argument?

• 1:16:29Speaker 05

  Yeah, I guess they're saying he doesn't have clear possession, so it's incomplete. Well, so it's not in anybody's possession and then it doesn't touch the ground and then this Bronco intercepts. Oh, that makes sense. Which could be valid.

• 1:16:38Speaker 06

  Okay, so maybe it wasn't as bad a call as people are making.

• 1:16:41Speaker 05

  But yeah, I think we all just want the Bills to win. Yeah. The Bills, they live for Buffalo. Josh Allen seems awesome.

• 1:16:46Speaker 06

  So this is another one, right? Because last year.

• 1:16:49Speaker 05

  Dude, he's five, six years in a row, just heartbreaking loss after heartbreaking loss.

• 1:16:52Speaker 06

  And if you grew up, in the time that we grew up, you saw the Bills go through this.

• 1:16:55Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:16:56Speaker 06

  Four years in a row.

• 1:16:56Speaker 05

  Four years in a row, they lost the Super Bowl. And it's like, they live for that team, dude. And seeing how emotional he was afterwards. Oh, he's tearing up. I let my teammates down.

• 1:17:04Speaker 06

  Did you see what his offensive lineman, did you see that?

• 1:17:07Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:17:07Speaker 06

  So they're interviewing, I think, is one of his O linemen and they're like, Josh said that he feels like he let his teammates down. And this is a big O lineman.

• 1:17:14Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:17:15Speaker 06

  And he just starts crying. He has like turned away from the camera. He goes, you didn't let us down. And like, has to turn around.

• 1:17:22Speaker 05

  It's kind of beautiful. Yeah, man, it is beautiful. It's a great game. And now that I have no team, because I've given up on the Cowboys, I can just watch and root for a team every game. And yeah, we're having fun. Yeah. I was hoping the Bears would beat the Rams. The Rams won. I'm rooting for them. It's just fine. I have no loyalty. I'm just watching a game. I have a team I kind of like better and then I enjoy it.

• 1:17:39Speaker 06

  This is it right here.

• 1:17:40Speaker 05

  Yo, how come no one's, like, the whole CTE thing, that just? Nah, we over that, bro. Yeah. Why didn't Michael Jordan molest kids? What? Hold on a second. Michael Jackson. Why didn't Michael Jackson, Jesus Christ? The fuck? Jesus Christ. Yeah, bleep that. Bleep that. Bleep that. Nah, I can't believe it. That's a mislead. I can't believe it.

• 1:17:58Speaker 06

  Oh gosh, you gotta do like a lap or something. That was sacrilegious. You know how many sneakers we gotta sell?

• 1:18:05Speaker 05

  See, I'm gonna sit this way for a bit. You're right. I'm in timeout. Y'all go ahead and finish that discussion.

• 1:18:10Speaker 06

  Get back here.

• 1:18:10Speaker 05

  Bro.

• 1:18:12Speaker 06

  That's crazy.

• 1:18:13Speaker 05

  Nah, that is so common, dude. Yeah, I really thought I had you, dude. Fucking unbelievable. Oh, man.

• 1:18:20Speaker 06

  Why'd you even bring that up?

• 1:18:21Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:18:23Speaker 06

  What did Michael Jackson molesting kids got to do with anything?

• 1:18:25Speaker 05

  It's too fun to just listen to the music and dance and have a good time.

• 1:18:29Speaker 06

  Oh, that's why we're saying.

• 1:18:30Speaker 05

  So we'll turn a blind eye. It would have been a good point if I got it. It would have been a great point. Really shut shit down.

• 1:18:36Speaker 06

  What's history saying about that now that Mike is dead? Like, is it, he did it, or?

• 1:18:41Speaker 05

  There's a black history and a white history. It's very similar to OJ.

• 1:18:45Speaker 04

  Truth is unknowable.

• 1:18:46Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, really? Wait, so whites think he did it?

• 1:18:49Speaker 05

  Choose your truth.

• 1:18:50Speaker 04

  Yes, dude.

• 1:18:50Mark Gagnon?

  I don't think he did it.

• 1:18:52Speaker 05

  Wow, what a surprise. I think he just proved my point.

• 1:18:56Mark Gagnon?

  Mark, what do you think?

• 1:18:57Speaker 04

  I, to be honest, I have not looked into it, but, uh...

• 1:18:59Speaker 05

  Cause he knows he would think he did it.

• 1:19:00Speaker 04

  Yeah, cause I wanna know.

• 1:19:02Speaker 05

  Mark not researching something, you know how crazy that is?

• 1:19:04Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, yeah, okay.

• 1:19:05Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:19:07Speaker 06

  That's interesting.

• 1:19:09Mark Gagnon?

  What do you think?

• 1:19:11Speaker 06

  I don't think he did it.

• 1:19:12Mark Gagnon?

  I don't. I thought he was just a little stunted in the head. I think he's stunted, like, you know, growth.

• 1:19:19Speaker 06

  I think, yeah.

• 1:19:19Mark Gagnon?

  And he was just sharing a bed with kids, which is weird, very weird, but I don't think he was, like, thinking sexually.

• 1:19:24Speaker 06

  I think there was inappropriate things there, like, you shouldn't share a bed with kids.

• 1:19:28Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:19:28Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:19:29Speaker 06

  But I don't think that he was like, fucking him or anything like that. Yeah, I don't...

• 1:19:33Mark Gagnon?

  I don't think so.

• 1:19:34Speaker 05

  I have no opinion on it. I'm not white or black.

• 1:19:36Speaker 06

  This is based on not reading any of the evidence. This is based purely on my perception of Michael Jackson.

• 1:19:43Speaker 04

  Yes, this is the way you should go about information. This is how I feel, and I'm gonna just feel what I feel, and that's fine.

• 1:19:49Speaker 06

  Yeah, but my feelings don't align with one side every single time. That's the problem. Like, there are some people who, where they, like, force their feelings maybe to align with them.

• 1:19:58Speaker 05

  You know their opinion before anything comes in.

• 1:19:59Speaker 06

  Exactly, right? It's, it was, uh, it was, that's what you were saying about the, uh, the Minneapolis thing. It's just a Rorschach test. It's like, whatever you already felt you're gonna see in every single video, right? But my feelings don't align. So now you're thrust into this situation where you're like, okay, well, I feel this way about this thing, and this thing about this thing, and then there's really, I think, most normal people would be like, yeah, I have differing opinions on different things. But the group think is completely siloed.

• 1:20:24Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:20:25Speaker 06

  And it's a much easier way to go through life, I imagine, online. But regular life probably makes you horrible, because every person you meet that is a normal human being, that has, like, varied opinions on the world, you're either judging them or feel judged by them.

• 1:20:39Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:20:40Speaker 06

  So what, so their experience online is probably much more pleasant, because it's just reinforcing what they already feel.

• 1:20:45Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:20:46Speaker 06

  And their experience in life is probably miserable.

• 1:20:48Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:20:49Mark Gagnon?

  I don't think they talk about their opinion.

• 1:20:52Speaker 06

  Or they create those silos in life too.

• 1:20:54Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:20:54Speaker 06

  And then it's just reinforced.

• 1:20:56Speaker 05

  And they probably live online a lot.

• 1:20:57Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, I feel like they live online, yeah.

• 1:20:59Speaker 04

  Mm-hmm. Yeah, we talk about kids with screens, dude. Old people with screens.

• 1:21:04Speaker 06

  That's even more terrifying.

• 1:21:05Speaker 04

  It's terrifying. We talk about screen time for like little kids, like, oh, they're getting radicalized. And dude, it's like the 75-year-old dude that's at home.

• 1:21:12Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:21:12Speaker 04

  That doesn't talk to his kids, that doesn't have any friends, that is just getting inundated with like Twitter and like.

• 1:21:17Speaker 06

  And we used to complain about Fox News. We're like, oh, they're just watching Fox News, that's bad. Nah, get it, if they're on YouTube.

• 1:21:23Speaker 04

  Yeah, they know YouTube now.

• 1:21:25Speaker 06

  It's over.

• 1:21:26Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:21:26Speaker 06

  It's over.

• 1:21:27Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:21:29Speaker 06

  Hmm.

• 1:21:30Speaker 04

  Yeah, we gotta get screen time limits for the elderly.

• 1:21:32Speaker 08

  I need, I need screen time limits. I'm watching too much body cam footage.

• 1:21:35Speaker 04

  Oh, yes, I love, I love the body cam.

• 1:21:37Speaker 05

  I thought you were gonna say, I thought you were gonna say porn and then you said the same thing.

• 1:21:40Speaker 04

  Yeah, I know.

• 1:21:41Speaker 06

  What do you mean you're watching too much body cam footage? You're saying like, of what happened in Minneapolis?

• 1:21:45Speaker 08

  No, no, no, no. We're like. I avoided that one. This is just, there's these channels, shout out EWU and Midwest Safety.

• 1:21:52Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:21:53Speaker 08

  That just have the most insane, uh, thumbnails and titles, and I'll just put one on and do the dishes and follow through with the whole thing.

• 1:22:01Speaker 06

  So, so to relax, you watched black people get chased by the cops?

• 1:22:04Speaker 08

  No, it's not black people, that's the best part.

• 1:22:09Speaker 08

  Generally, it's not black people. It's usually like a white trash family, and like, the one I watched last night, a white kid killed his mom. And then, dude, they're like, what happened? What happened? He's like, some guy came and killed my mom, and I don't know. And I just watch it, and then he goes in the interrogation room, and I just watch the whole thing, top to bottom. And then, another one.

• 1:22:30Speaker 06

  Shifty, Shifty, internet is cooked, bro. Shifty and I were talking about this yesterday. Shifty had a great take. Shifty, are you willing to respond with words and not memes?

• 1:22:42Speaker 06

  He has a rolodex of memes that he can respond to in any way or form. But what is your, what was your take about how uh legacy media is now punk rock? Something, what was, what was the take?

• 1:23:01Speaker 09

  It's like, anyone can post on the internet now. So like, anything you consume on the internet usually is gonna be more slop. And you have a little bit more trust in something that's on like legacy media. Cause it's more money went into it, the most talented people usually worked on it.

• 1:23:15Speaker 06

  And you're not speaking about news per se, you're speaking about like-

• 1:23:19Speaker 09

  Like HBO, Netflix, Hulu-

• 1:23:21Speaker 06

  Right.

• 1:23:21Speaker 09

  Paramount Plus, whatever.

• 1:23:22Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:23:23Speaker 09

  And then legacy's caught up to where they'll just, like SNL like just takes the like talented people off social. And it puts them on TV.

• 1:23:31Speaker 06

  So it's an interesting thing that's happened, like the shift, which is legacy media was locked into those like cable contracts. You know, for a while. So they were kind of like, had their like hands tied behind their back. And their ability to put stuff online. And also there are all these new streaming networks that were coming out, like a Paramount Plus and shit. And like, people are like, what the fuck is a Paramount? Another thing I gotta sign up for? Like what is all this shit? Now, if a show is good, regardless of what streaming network it's on, people will find it. Like you're watching Pluribus on Apple, right? Uh, with Severance, I think was on Apple too. Taylor Sheridan Universe is on Paramount Plus and I think other channels as well. Like you can kinda get to every show.

• 1:24:12Speaker 06

  It doesn't feel like there's that barrier of entry that like, maybe four years ago, if you had an HBO show-

• 1:24:17Speaker 09

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:24:17Speaker 06

  Not an HBO show, if you had like a show on an obscure streamer, it might just die.

• 1:24:21Speaker 09

  Yeah.

• 1:24:21Speaker 06

  You know? So-

• 1:24:24Speaker 05

  Cobra Kai was on YouTube Red at first and then it died and then Netflix picked it up and-

• 1:24:27Speaker 06

  And then it was huge. And I think part of that was the fact that like, everybody had Netflix.

• 1:24:31Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:24:32Speaker 06

  And, and but to your point, it's like YouTube Red, who has it? I can't find it, even though the show was good. And uh, yeah, it's just interesting that like- All these, all these networks, now that they're not like shackled to cable where nobody was watching TV, are now putting like a new crop of young talent on their shows. And whereas before, when they couldn't really take risks, you had to just put the legacy, like they brought back Roseanne. Cause it's like, this is the only way we can get people to watch cable on ABC. So now you're having young people who would probably be like influencers or like social media stars now being snatched up. And some of them were influencers, social media stars or in that like show in LA, I Love LA or something like that.

• 1:25:16Speaker 06

  So it's like, so it's like you have, you're, basically Hollywood is doing what it had always done, but there was like a five year wait. But now they are consuming all the talented people online. And I think what you'll see is the Stranger Things cast will be like the next crop of movie stars. Who knows if it works, but I think like the guy who played Steve Harrington, like Joe Keeling, they're gonna give him movies. He's gonna get a few shots to, to blow. Like I wouldn't be surprised if he get, was in some Marvel shit. Right. Like, and I think that if you see young people that you're familiar with and you've built like these parasocial relationships with, maybe that is the impetus to go watch their shows or even maybe go to the movies.

• 1:25:59Speaker 06

  Before, when it's a young kid going to watch another Tom Cruise movie and that young kid's like, I, I never grew up watching Tom Cruise. I don't really have a connection to who he is. I don't need to leave the house to watch Mission Impossible. And it was basically all on us. Yeah. So basically everything I said about movies a few weeks ago, I go against it. Classic, classic flip flop. No, I don't know, I don't know movies back. But like to Shifty's point, which I thought was really interesting is that people might want to escape. And now networks are creating a lot of shows. They're like unshackled by any kind of like woke stuff that they're a little worried about. Like there's just like heartland shows. Yeah. You know, that don't feel like they have to meet any like diversity requirement or they don't have to like police language. They'll just tell whatever fucking hillbilly story they want.

• 1:26:42Speaker 06

  People are finding it. They're flourishing. And then they've got like the coastal elite shows like I Love LA. And I'm sure there's some shit in New York for HBO. And people are finding it. I don't know. I don't know if you guys are feeling this, but it does feel like the consumption patterns are gravitating back towards network television a bit. By network, I mean like streaming.

• 1:27:02Speaker 05

  You think also maybe some of the writers block or the writer's strike where there's like this big lag in content?

• 1:27:07Speaker 06

  That's a good move, man.

• 1:27:08Speaker 05

  Yeah, and now it's like they're catching up.

• 1:27:09Speaker 04

  Plus covid.

• 1:27:10Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:27:11Speaker 04

  Like both those things happening back to back, I think there was just a dearth of good streaming content.

• 1:27:15Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:27:16Speaker 04

  And the explosion of like sort of non-centralized creator content, they kind of shook up the industry and then now we're kind of like regressing back to what that normal average is. So I don't know if people ever like stopped stop watching TV. I think like it just took streamers time to kind of catch up with what the new paradigm is.

• 1:27:34Speaker 06

  Yeah, 100%.

• 1:27:35Mark Gagnon?

  Or it could also be they're making TV dumber. And what was that, that second watch?

• 1:27:40Speaker 05

  Second screen.

• 1:27:41Speaker 06

  Yeah, get that clip up from like Ben and Matt on, you know what was really great about seeing Ben on Rogan and like seeing Ben and Matt, it was like Ben played the dumb guy in Good Will Hunting?

• 1:27:53Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:27:54Speaker 06

  And I think we assumed he was dumb.

• 1:27:55Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 1:27:56Speaker 06

  And it wasn't until 30 years later, we're watching him at a long-length podcast and we're like, oh, this guy's fucking brilliant.

• 1:28:03Speaker 04

  Oh, they both went to Harvard?

• 1:28:04Speaker 06

  Yeah, they're both geniuses, what the fuck is going on? Because, yeah, Ben is speaking with like profound confidence about an industry that he knows incredibly well, obviously, but just like really great observations.

• 1:28:17Mark Gagnon?

  You know, how did that Marty Supreme movie do? Did it like?

• 1:28:21Speaker 04

  Without knowing anything, I would guess it did extremely well.

• 1:28:24Speaker 06

  It did.

• 1:28:25Speaker 04

  That's my feeling.

• 1:28:26Mark Gagnon?

  So that means it's right.

• 1:28:27Speaker 04

  Exactly, yeah, that's my reality.

• 1:28:29Speaker 06

  It made a lot of money, which is really good for the film industry and it showed that people got to movies. I don't know if it made, if it was profitable per se.

• 1:28:42Speaker 05

  Oh, okay. I was thinking maybe it was the opposite, maybe it made money because it was low budget and then it didn't gross a ton.

• 1:28:47Speaker 06

  No, no, I think they were really excited about when it grossed, but again, it was an expensive movie to make. It's like, it was like that Leonardo Capri movie, the, what is it called? One Problem After Another. It's like, that movie made a lot of money. It was just really expensive to make it.

• 1:29:03Speaker 04

  Yeah, to arc it up.

• 1:29:04Mark Gagnon?

  So a ping pong movie was expensive to make?

• 1:29:06Speaker 06

  Yeah, I mean, yeah.

• 1:29:09Mark Gagnon?

  Why?

• 1:29:10Speaker 06

  It's a...

• 1:29:11Mark Gagnon?

  No CGI, no, like what, what was expensive about it?

• 1:29:15Speaker 08

  I mean, cast and locations and like.

• 1:29:17Speaker 06

  Shooting in New York is probably expensive, like making everything reflect the time is probably expensive.

• 1:29:23Speaker 08

  Yeah, costuming, like, and also just this Variety article says from yesterday. It's A24's highest grossing film at domestic box office with 80 million, beating out everywhere, everything everywhere all at once.

• 1:29:36Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, wow, dude.

• 1:29:38Speaker 06

  Yeah, that's the thing is that like, but again, the fact that it's generating. I think is a better indicator because you can always make films for less money. You can get actors to say, okay, instead of doing it for 20 million, I'll do it for 10. Like you can tell Leonardo DiCaprio nowadays, you can be like, listen, movies don't make what they did 10 years ago when we can give you 25 million dollars and a piece at a box office. But if you're willing to do it for 10, I think that we can make a profitable movie.

• 1:30:01Mark Gagnon?

  I'm just really surprised because the amount of marketing and like you were seeing. The lead everywhere, the promotion that they did, I thought that was going to, I thought that movie is gonna go.

• 1:30:13Speaker 06

  For this type of movie, I think that's exceptional.

• 1:30:18Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:30:18Speaker 06

  Like it's a movie based on a story that nobody really knows or cares about.

• 1:30:22Speaker 08

  Brand new IP, which is awesome that they're pushing for something.

• 1:30:25Mark Gagnon?

  I mean, even back in the day, our stars did that with brand new IP and there was.

• 1:30:29Speaker 06

  I think it was a different consumption patterns. Like I think we were willing to take chances on a little obscure movie about poker. You know, I mean, we watched, what was that movie? Rounders.

• 1:30:40Speaker 05

  Yeah, I didn't watch it in theaters, but yeah, it became this cult thing.

• 1:30:43Speaker 06

  Oh, it was awesome.

• 1:30:44Speaker 05

  I caught it on stars because there was no phone. There was, I had cable. I was so happy. I see this movie. I'll watch that. Oh, this is amazing.

• 1:30:50Speaker 06

  So like this is, I think we were willing to take some chances because it was just part of what we did as kids. Like I remember literally on Friday. After school, like, is there a movie coming out? Let's go sneak into it.

• 1:31:01Speaker 05

  444 Film?

• 1:31:02Speaker 06

  What was that?

• 1:31:02Speaker 05

  You would call the phone number and it would give you all the showtimes for the movie.

• 1:31:06Speaker 06

  Movie phone?

• 1:31:07Mark Gagnon?

  Movie phone.

• 1:31:07Speaker 06

  We had movie phone, yeah.

• 1:31:09Speaker 05

  There was a Seinfeld episode that's funny where Chandler or Kramer's phone number is 444 Filk. So he just pretends to be movie phone. It was really funny. It's great. But Matt Damon also had the point in another clip where he said like, also because people aren't buying home movies anymore. The, they just can't make as much. You would make X amount in theaters if the budget was this and then it would get released on VHS or DVD or whatever and then all these people would buy it and then you'd make more money.

• 1:31:32Mark Gagnon?

  Ah, but I thought you can purchase to stream it.

• 1:31:36Speaker 05

  But you're purchasing it instead of going to the theaters. You can rent it for $2.99, but you're not, most people don't buy it for $10.

• 1:31:41Speaker 06

  Like when people had DVD collections.

• 1:31:43Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:31:44Speaker 06

  Do you remember that, like?

• 1:31:45Speaker 04

  Remember Blu-ray? People being like, "Yo, I'm gonna get every Blu-ray."

• 1:31:48Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:31:49Speaker 04

  Crazy.

• 1:31:49Speaker 05

  There was a war.

• 1:31:50Speaker 06

  I thought that shit was.

• 1:31:51Mark Gagnon?

  I always thought it was so dumb.

• 1:31:52Speaker 06

  I was like, I can't tell the quality difference.

• 1:31:53Mark Gagnon?

  How many times are you gonna like wanna watch the same movie?

• 1:31:56Speaker 06

  All right, here, play, play, this is interesting. Play this clip about the reiterating the plot three or four times.

• 1:32:00Speaker 10

  The standard way to make an action movie that we learned was usually have like three set pieces. They kind of ramp up and the big one with all the explosions and you spend most of your money on that one in the third act. That's your kind of finale. And now they're like, can we get a big one in the first five minutes? We want people to stay.

• 1:32:15Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:32:16Speaker 10

  Tuned in and, and wouldn't be terrible if you reiterated the plot three or four times in the dialogue because people are on their phones while they're watching, you know what I mean?

• 1:32:25Speaker 06

  So here's the thing. And then there was another conversation about when people are watching it on, on your, your phone or you're watching it on an iPad. It doesn't lend itself to the cinematography that, what was that movie Leo did in like Narwhal Land?

• 1:32:41Speaker 05

  Oh, Inception.

• 1:32:41Speaker 06

  Revenant. You know, like these beautiful landscapes and you're taking all this time, you're shooting a magic hour, like. And I think it was Matt making a point where it's like, if people aren't consuming them on devices where you can appreciate that type of cinematography, it becomes less valuable. So then maybe they're shooting things a little bit more flat or something. I don't know. But, um, but this is interesting. It's like, what are you supposed to do? If you know people are looking at their phones while you're watching the movie at home.

• 1:33:10Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:33:11Speaker 06

  Are you supposed to be like, "Well, fuck them. Uh, if they don't watch it, they don't watch it." Or do you do things that accommodate this new form of viewing?

• 1:33:22Speaker 04

  Vertical, vertical driving.

• 1:33:24Speaker 06

  No, I mean, I've seen that, but like, I guess the artist in you goes, "I'm gonna make it no matter what, I'm gonna make it how I wanna make it matter what, 100%." And then, there's also a part of you, the artist part, that goes, "I want people to see my art." Not in terms of like, for making money off it, but because like, I poured my heart into something, and I want them to watch it, if they hate it, they hate it, they love it, they love it, but like, you know, you don't have to share your art, if you choose to share it, you know, you want people to be able to consume it.

• 1:33:51Speaker 04

  Yeah, I wonder if it's different types of audiences you're trying to hit, I guess, you know, like, maybe there's certain projects, you're like, "Okay, this is gonna be for mass consumption, I'm gonna hit as many people, it's gonna be two-screen viewing, I'm gonna have an explosion the first five." And then you can pick projects where you're like, "This is gonna be a pure piece of art, that ultimately like, pulls up the artistic, you know, core of the audience." Like, "I'm not going to capitulate to the algorithmic overlords that force me to go to humanity's base instinct, which is like, you know, constant dopamine, I need to just like, feel something at all times."

• 1:34:20Speaker 06

  Beautifully said.

• 1:34:21Speaker 04

  You go like, "I'm going to pull up the, the, I don't know, the human like, artistic, you know..."

• 1:34:27Speaker 06

  I'm gonna drag you into, I'm gonna, I'm gonna appeal to your highest level of artistic integrity and intellect.

• 1:34:33Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:34:33Speaker 06

  I'm not gonna drop to the lowest level of it.

• 1:34:35Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:34:36Speaker 06

  I think that you can do that, and then all of a sudden, you gotta be like, "But we're making this movie for 20 million dollars."

• 1:34:41Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.

• 1:34:42Speaker 06

  And I think that...

• 1:34:43Speaker 04

  And I'm okay, you gotta be okay kinda losing money on stuff, like...

• 1:34:46Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:34:47Speaker 04

  Like, I don't know, I was listening to a podcast with, ah, I forgot this guy's name, it was Alex O'Connor and another dude who's like, an art historian that talks about...

• 1:34:53Speaker 06

  Nick Fuentes.

• 1:34:54Speaker 04

  It might have been him, it might have been.

• 1:34:56Speaker 06

  I think he really loves one age artists.

• 1:34:58Speaker 04

  Yeah, one specific painter. It was, uh, just about like, architecture, like, what is architecture supposed to do? You walk around a city and like, you see a beautiful building, like, and inspires you to like, think about the divine, or think about like, literature, like, whatever, like, back in the day, like, they would lose money on these public works projects to make something beautiful. Exactly, yeah, this guy, the cultural tutor. Uh, whereas now, it's like, all things kind of exist for, you know, like, the new god is capitalism, and capitalism requires cheap materials and simple building designs, and like, sort of ugly, kind of amorphous boxes.

• 1:35:32Speaker 06

  Tucker was making this point too, I heard him.

• 1:35:34Speaker 04

  Thank goodness.

• 1:35:34Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:35:35Speaker 04

  Good company.

• 1:35:37Speaker 06

  But no, something about like putting time and effort into these government buildings created a relationship between the government, and I don't know if you, I could be butchering this, but like there was a relationship between the people and the government that these places were not there to oppress them. Right, that these were like beautiful things, beautiful institutions that they could be proud of. I don't know if that's how you get the greatest relationship between government and people. But when you do look at the old buildings in New York City, you know, like even in this neighborhood, there's a couple, I don't want to expose where we are, but there's that like beautiful old, I don't know if it's a government building or like an old bank or something like that.

• 1:36:08Speaker 04

  This one up the street here?

• 1:36:09Speaker 06

  Yeah, and it's like, they ain't making those anymore. They're not putting the time in to have this perfect dome and archways and all this other shit. Like, no developer in New York is gonna get a fucking permit, one, to do that. And two, take the time and lose the money to do it. So they just build a studio.

• 1:36:28Speaker 04

  But yeah, you need some type of like higher calling that's philosophical, whether it's like God or nationalism or something to make you be like, I'm down to lose money. And ultimately, like, you hope that art pulls people up to like their higher self, where like they can appreciate something beautiful.

• 1:36:41Speaker 06

  That's probably the idea with like the public park, right?

• 1:36:44Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:36:44Speaker 06

  It's like, Central Park is probably the most valuable real estate on the planet. Like, the park itself.

• 1:36:50Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:36:51Speaker 06

  And they could easily siphon little bits off and sell them to developers and make fucking high rises and all that stuff. But they made a commitment, for whatever reason, that we're not gonna do that, and it's important to have this space. And they meticulously designed it, like, it's beautiful, you can walk a fucking Central Park, it's beautiful. And I think it's a cool thing. I think it's a cool thing to go, hey, we're gonna, in the capital of capitalism, we are not going to extract wealth from this fucking thing.

• 1:37:17Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:37:18Speaker 06

  We're gonna lose money on this thing right here because it's important that people have a place.

• 1:37:23Speaker 05

  I do wish they could get the horse shit out, but other than that, it's phenomenal.

• 1:37:26Speaker 04

  Yeah, I'm fine with that. Yeah, I'm good with the horses.

• 1:37:27Speaker 06

  You know, you know, the likable way of saying that would be like, we gotta stop these horse carriages because it's brutalizing the horses. Akash is like, if we could just make them not shit, I'd be totally proud of it.

• 1:37:38Speaker 04

  Both and, you know?

• 1:37:39Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:37:40Speaker 06

  But yeah, like.

• 1:37:40Mark Gagnon?

  I have an Akash prediction, then which is like something that he's probably wrong, but on a technicality, you'll get it right every once in a while. Um, I think that all the vertical viewing, like vertical dramas and shit like that, that's gonna be bigger than movies and TV.

• 1:37:54Speaker 06

  Tell, explain these vertical dramas. Everybody keeps talking about these things.

• 1:37:58Mark Gagnon?

  They're, it's big in China. It's big in Asia already.

• 1:38:00Speaker 06

  Okay.

• 1:38:01Mark Gagnon?

  It's getting bigger here and they're just shooting everything for verticals. So that it's a TV short drama, probably maybe between five to 20 minutes, something between there. And then, um, yeah, they're doing all the same production value, lighting and everything, but they just, the cameras just this way and the whole thing is meant to watch.

• 1:38:19Speaker 06

  So it's quippy?

• 1:38:20Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:38:21Speaker 06

  But it's available on Tik Tok or available on YouTube Shorts or these other platforms?

• 1:38:25Mark Gagnon?

  And, but it's like the production value, like what's, what they're putting out is amazing.

• 1:38:29Speaker 06

  Are they the same characters and the storylines and the characters carrying through? Or is it each one is its own little soap opera? And then when that's done?

• 1:38:37Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, no, there's some shows that are continuous, like. And they're like 30 minute shows? Yeah, no, some are like five minute shows. Yeah, okay. And it's just enough where it's like, oh, okay, I can invest five minutes. I can see that winning. I'll jump into that prediction. And then you just pay like, oh, one dollar an episode and they are just printing fucking.

• 1:38:53Speaker 06

  Oh, you're paying directly to watch like on Tik Tok shop or something like that?

• 1:38:58Speaker 08

  And you're saying that this will be bigger than the film industry?

• 1:39:01Mark Gagnon?

  Yes. Yep.

• 1:39:03Speaker 06

  Hot take.

• 1:39:03Speaker 08

  It's a tough, it's a tough one, but maybe, but maybe.

• 1:39:06Mark Gagnon?

  The film industry is constantly every year, it's getting smaller and smaller.

• 1:39:10Speaker 06

  Well, this is the film industry, but they just found a different way to, this is an example of one right here?

• 1:39:16Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah. It's 41 minutes.

• 1:39:20Speaker 08

  It's 41 minutes?

• 1:39:21Mark Gagnon?

  This doesn't look, uh.

• 1:39:22Speaker 08

  Some are really bad.

• 1:39:23Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:39:23Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, some are bad. And like, whatever. But it's a new industry.

• 1:39:26Speaker 06

  It's like white people's Tubi.

• 1:39:28Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah. Yeah, I guess.

• 1:39:29Speaker 08

  But it's like, no, Schultz, you're so right with that. There's some on Tik Tok where like you can tell they're trying and they're filming. Some in eight, in the Asian markets with like the subtitles look unbelievably like good. Some in the American market that are coming out, it'll be like, uh, an Italian guy walks in the room. He's like, how you doing? Da da ba. Like it's overacted. It's bad lighting. Like they're getting there, but some are quite bad.

• 1:39:51Speaker 06

  But, but people are watching them. Like the views are insane?

• 1:39:54Speaker 08

  Yeah. And the drama is immediate. It'll be like, you shot my wife.

• 1:39:58Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:39:58Speaker 08

  Yeah. And then the wife will be like, oh.

• 1:40:01Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:40:02Mark Gagnon?

  It's very funny. It's gonna be huge. It very much feels like, uh, soap operas.

• 1:40:09Speaker 05

  This looks like an Indian soap opera.

• 1:40:18Mark Gagnon?

  It's actually a lot like Bollywood.

• 1:40:22Mark Gagnon?

  It's like, it's like, over. Like, it's, everything is like, extra.

• 1:40:26Speaker 05

  That's like a Bollywood soap opera. A lot of like, whatever, the cuts.

• 1:40:29Speaker 04

  Yeah, we're biting your shit, dude. It's called Full Circle. Isn't that wild?

• 1:40:34Speaker 06

  Bollywood is ripping off Batman.

• 1:40:36Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:40:36Speaker 06

  And now we're ripping off Bollywood.

• 1:40:40Speaker 04

  Damn.

• 1:40:41Speaker 05

  You're welcome.

• 1:40:41Speaker 04

  We're running out of time, Mos.

• 1:40:43Mark Gagnon?

  Uh, just over an hour and forty.

• 1:40:45Speaker 06

  Oh, wow.

• 1:40:46Speaker 04

  You wanna go to Patreon?

• 1:40:46Speaker 06

  Yeah, we gotta go hit Patreon. Boys, we're going over to Patreon right now. Patreon.com slash flagrant. We will see you guys there. Love y'all. Appreciate y'all. Peace.

• 1:40:55Speaker 05

  God bless.

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