50 Cent on Diddy/Jay-Z Allegations & Real Reason for Drake’s Lawsuit

00:00 50 Cent ran Alexx off his corners + MSG appearance 1:42 Kendrick, Katt and Jamie Foxx + Comedians are invincible 4:28 Is Jamie the most talented person ever? Puffy Marketing 5:24 Latest with Diddy? Meek went shopping + 50 didn't 9:59 Jay-Z's lawsuit + Issue with Jay-Z? Competitiveness 18:28 Is 50 Nostradamus? Always the outside 21:21 Understanding human nature + Leverage 29:52 "How to Rob" 34:59 Akaash keeps it real + Whoo Kid honesty 37:06 J-Lo & Nas + Irv Gotti interference 41:35 Biggest debut in Hip Hop + He lived it 48:52 Drake's lawsuit + Kendrick got trophies we ain't heard of 51:56 Jay-Z's biggest contract ever 53:55 Did Jay-Z know anything? "I took the pill" 57:05 Comment about Mufasa + 50 not scared of his past 1:01:18 Was Jay-Z pump faking? 1:02:46 50 changed Louisiana's laws 1:08:09 How big is 50's team? 1:16:47 Doing things on your terms + 50 Cent effect 1:21:57 Business acumen + betting on himself 1:24:41 Goofiest ideas + Multiverse incoming 1:28:09 50 was celibate + Tricking 1:31:07 Den of Thieves 2 1:35:11 Drake's success backlash + Lawsuit 1:38:21 People bothered by the no 1 1:40:10 No regrets in music 1:43:39 How would 50 advise Drake? Make them miss you 1:47:33 50 Cent LV Residency + Eminem 1:51:27 Puff was never a scary guy 1:52:36 Developing business acumen + Understood funny 1:57:10 Floyd Jr v Snr + the greatest great 2:00:15 Go to move + Power of association 2:03:56 Ru Paul is the most talented black entertainer 2:05:20 What has 50 failed out? Bones of what??? 2:10:45 Trump wanted 50 HARD + Feeling of getting shot 2:14:50 Watched changed after sh00t1ng 2:17:47 "Why you say f*ck me for?" + Jimmy Henchman kid sl4p 2:20:01 Is it hard to be loved? Entertainment at all costs 2:25:10 Will 50 visit Puff in jail? Why a 1000? 2:30:30 What's the future for 50? AI 2:32:17 Andrew's method acting 50 Cent: In Da Club - Las Vegas Residency – Use Code SCHULZ50 for a 25% discount. 12.27 – https://www.ticketmaster.com/event/3900614A98FF3190 12.28 – https://www.ticketmaster.com/event/3900614A99023193 12.30 – https://www.ticketmaster.com/event/3900614A9905319A 12.31 – https://www.ticketmaster.com/event/3900614A9908319E 1.3.25 – https://www.ticketmaster.com/event/3900614A990B31A2 1.4.25 – https://www.ticketmaster.com/event/3900614A990E31AE Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• 0:00Speaker 00

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• 1:09Speaker 04

  It's a long time coming. We got the goat, we got the king of New York, and the man who got everything on his Christmas list this year.

• 1:23Speaker 04

  I'm happy to find out. Alex told me that back in the day, you guys ran him off his corner. Oh, you're a star right there.

• 1:33Speaker 04

  He said, like, he had a little corner in Paul Rock, you know?

• 1:40Speaker 04

  We was in high school, had a little couple of corners, and just one day, few dudes from Jamaica was on the corner, and it's like, "Gee, gee, gee." I was like, "Ah, y'all got it?"

• 1:57Speaker 04

  No, I'm sure it calls that the weave, bro.

• 2:03Speaker 04

  No, we've been doing alright. Things been doing pretty good, you know? Fifty Cent pulled up to show at Madison Square Garden. Things worked out after that. No, that was fire. It worked out.

• 2:10Speaker 05

  He didn't need me there. It was so loud, alright. So I was a surprise.

• 2:14Speaker 04

  Nah, but that's-

• 2:15Speaker 05

  He's so loud. Well, I'm like this, "Yeah, I'm in the right place." I know I'm in the right place, but I ain't had to do nothing. Everybody is here.

• 2:23Speaker 04

  Bro, it was, it was crazy because I had no clue what to expect. I didn't know you guys were gonna do like a show. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, it's a real show.

• 2:32Speaker 05

  I would perform for you, like, look, there's certain guys that, like, you see how you came to Human Harmony? Our relationship is a little different. If he, if he does a favor for me, I'm gonna return the favor, bro. Like, there's not gonna be a point that I don't-

• 2:44Speaker 04

  Now, I will say, you did that even before I did anything, man. That's love.

• 2:47Speaker 05

  Yeah, and I'm looking at it going, nah, it's cool, cuz I'm a fan of it.

• 2:50Speaker 04

  Respect, respect.

• 2:51Speaker 05

  But I don't understand what got into you. This made you say you was gonna fuck Kendrick.

• 2:56Speaker 04

  Whoa, whoa, whoa. I said, "Make sweet love."

• 2:58Speaker 05

  Oh, sweet love. I registered for it.

• 3:02Speaker 04

  No, no, no, nah, we wouldn't do it.

• 3:03Speaker 05

  No, it's not, look, you know what? I apologize, guys.

• 3:06Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's love. This is your camera, right?

• 3:11Speaker 05

  This is from years and years of trauma.

• 3:14Speaker 05

  This comes from abuse from the neighborhood that I grew up in. This comes from a lot of different things and, and, "Make sweet love." I heard fuck. When you said it, I-

• 3:26Speaker 04

  Yeah, that's the people-

• 3:27Speaker 05

  It was aggressive. I don't know why I registered that way. And then, look, for, for people to write petitions behind it?

• 3:33Speaker 04

  It's crazy. It's crazy.

• 3:34Speaker 05

  That is crazy. Cuz, I mean, look, you saying, look, I, I follow comedic culture. I watch comedians. I enjoy them on another level.

• 3:42Speaker 04

  You are a comedian.

• 3:44Speaker 05

  What I appreciate about it is they are invincible.

• 3:49Speaker 05

  When I watch them, I look and I go, there's no point that you could do something that actually damages what they develop. What they built. Like, you know, like, they go, like, in, in any case, like, Cat Williams can fight a 15-year-old kid that is his height. And not, not do so well, right?

• 4:08Speaker 04

  Not do so well. I didn't like the decision on that one. I didn't like the decision.

• 4:13Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah.

• 4:13Speaker 04

  I didn't like the decision.

• 4:14Speaker 05

  I'm gonna rest over there.

• 4:15Speaker 04

  Yeah, that was 10-8. That was 10-8. That was close. It was close.

• 4:18Speaker 05

  That's one of those ones where you need to do over.

• 4:21Speaker 05

  Right, but, but it does no damage to Cat Williams. He's still that guy. I was watching Jamie Foxx's new piece, right?

• 4:28Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 4:28Speaker 05

  He mentioned Cat in it. Like, it meant, to me, it meant that he had to be relevant enough.

• 4:33Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah.

• 4:33Speaker 05

  For Jamie to include it. It was like, and I didn't know what, like, I went to laugh, like, when, if Andrew's gonna do something, I'm going, I'm pre, already, my mind is prepared, in a condition to laugh. I'm waiting for the punchline. It's gonna come. And I, I'm usually never let down. Jamie's show, that shit put me on a roller coaster.

• 4:53Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I'm just talking about crying.

• 4:56Speaker 05

  He went to a place, dude, I was like, oh, man, like, it was, like, my eyes was almost...

• 5:02Speaker 04

  Got emotional, right?

• 5:03Speaker 05

  Yeah, I'm like, what is going on here?

• 5:05Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 5:05Speaker 05

  You were supposed to make me laugh. I'm not sure I'm prepared to be doing all of this extra feelings and stuff.

• 5:12Speaker 05

  You gotta talk to that fool about that one. I'm like, what is this dude, bro?

• 5:16Speaker 04

  That's inappropriate. He's trying to make you cry.

• 5:17Speaker 05

  Yeah, he's just Atlanta, like, like, he made everyone in Atlanta feel like they saved his life. I said, yo, this is deep, like, the show was...

• 5:26Speaker 04

  Doug, Doug told me he cried. Shout out to Jamie, by the way. What a comeback. Doug told me he cried. Jamie Foxx is doing...

• 5:33Speaker 05

  Nah, it was real. It was, it was intense.

• 5:35Speaker 04

  Is he the most talented human being?

• 5:37Speaker 05

  Do you know what? Watching that, it was periods of talent that I looked at. Like, I saw him doing, like, when he did the voice piece, he does those things, and then he had the, it was almost a Living Color back when he...

• 5:48Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 5:49Speaker 05

  Yeah, and he went, and he got into, um, like, the Django things, the shows.

• 5:57Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 5:57Speaker 05

  They show periods. They show pieces of the work that's been done over his entire career.

• 6:01Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 6:02Speaker 05

  And then, like, cause he was saying, the clone piece, like, the, I think I'm a clone.

• 6:08Speaker 05

  He tied that in there crazy. He's like, yo, I don't know why I thought he was gonna say more about Buffy.

• 6:13Speaker 04

  People said that. Yeah, that they were gonna blame him, yeah.

• 6:16Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah, and I think that was great marketing.

• 6:18Speaker 04

  What's, oh.

• 6:19Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 6:20Speaker 04

  You use the puffy thing, get us all to tap in.

• 6:23Speaker 05

  That's what everybody's talking about.

• 6:24Speaker 04

  Exactly.

• 6:25Speaker 05

  And then everybody's looking going, wait, so I thought he was gonna say more about, nah, I don't need that. It's about Jamie, it's not about that.

• 6:32Mark Gagnon?

  That was smart.

• 6:33Speaker 05

  You know.

• 6:34Speaker 04

  What's happening with Puffy? I know you're not really tapped in, but what?

• 6:38Speaker 05

  The last thing I saw was like a guy there, he was like, yo, he like pushed me into the truck, it really hurt.

• 6:44Speaker 05

  Like he started to watch me, I was like, yo, look.

• 6:48Speaker 05

  I can find other things to do for money.

• 6:51Speaker 04

  Side, side, side.

• 6:54Speaker 05

  Find other things to do for money, but I'm not sure I can say that for money.

• 7:00Speaker 04

  How much, how much, how much, how much, how much is this guy trying to get?

• 7:03Speaker 05

  I don't know, like, it's a simple situation, but it's like.

• 7:07Speaker 04

  Twenty mil, I can say it.

• 7:08Mark Gagnon?

  You still had to black his face out, you still had to mimic his voice, cause he's like.

• 7:11Speaker 04

  But his voice wasn't even that different.

• 7:13Speaker 05

  And he had a little deep, I was like, almost like, no, that's you, young buck.

• 7:16Speaker 04

  Yo.

• 7:17Speaker 05

  I almost saw it was him. I almost knew who it was. You know what I mean, I was like, nah, that's.

• 7:23Speaker 04

  Yo, you can't say that dudes are having sex with other dudes, bro. That might come for you.

• 7:28Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, you say sweet love, sweet love.

• 7:29Speaker 04

  Yeah, young buck say make sweet love.

• 7:31Mark Gagnon?

  That's young buck breaking right there.

• 7:33Speaker 05

  Make sweet love.

• 7:34Speaker 04

  There's rules to rap beef now, bro.

• 7:36Speaker 05

  Nah, people don't know. Why I'm saying like, ah, man. Why is your homeboy so close to you when you come out of there? Look like you guys just made sweet love. I'm gonna say sweet love instead of anything.

• 7:48Speaker 04

  To me, that's better, cause they're gonna try to make it something else, you know what I mean?

• 7:51Speaker 05

  Yeah, that was smart, like, I, you know, I didn't think about that, you know, I say things to the borderline, like, I'm like, oh my god, you're in trouble.

• 7:57Speaker 04

  Cute.

• 7:57Speaker 05

  Like that all the time, always, cause I just say.

• 8:00Mark Gagnon?

  Nah, but you got close when he offered to take you shopping.

• 8:02Speaker 05

  Yeah, you see, Amika's in the same shirt. He's out there in the same shirt, this is not a photo shop.

• 8:10Speaker 05

  I'm just saying. No, no, stop, stop it, man. You set that up, look, you set that up. He's in the same shirt, matching shirt.

• 8:21Speaker 04

  What do you mean he's in the same shirt?

• 8:22Speaker 05

  I obviously was not offended by what I was offended by.

• 8:27Speaker 05

  This is what I'm saying, bro.

• 8:30Speaker 05

  This is some of the things that people say to a girl. Guys may say to a girl, you know, like, uh, let me take a shot, see?

• 8:40Mark Gagnon?

  Damn.

• 8:40Speaker 05

  They found it that quick.

• 8:41Speaker 04

  What do you think's happening in the middle?

• 8:43Speaker 05

  I don't know what's going on.

• 8:44Mark Gagnon?

  Wow, they found Kendrick in Whitefish.

• 8:51Speaker 04

  You can't dress up Kendrick like that. Oh, you can't dress him up like that.

• 8:57Speaker 04

  That's like the White Chicks movie, bro. You can't do that.

• 8:59Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, that was comedy. That was good. You can't get away with Whitefish.

• 9:02Speaker 05

  You know, that's obviously doing shopping. They got the same outfit.

• 9:07Speaker 04

  It's true. Yeah, that's a nice shirt. That was a nice shirt. All right, so when he said, when he said the shopping line, in real life, what did you say?

• 9:17Speaker 05

  I said, oh, let me get away from him. Because it was like, he was like, yo, you hot now. Now we gotta hang out now. Like, you know, like, hang out, hang out. Yeah. He said, I don't know, man. I take you shopping and I get you some flash and you can give me the, like, the whole shit. And I was looking and I was like, let me just move away from him because I'm gonna mess up the win. I always say to myself, like, as I'm...

• 9:36Speaker 04

  It was someone's wedding?

• 9:37Speaker 05

  It was Chris Lighty's wedding. He was in Miami. Nobody's there. Nobody knows this. And I looked at him like, yo.

• 9:46Speaker 05

  You heard what he just said, right?

• 9:50Speaker 05

  He's like, yo, certain things they let it go by because it's puff. Like, they would look, like, he would say stuff and it's like, he wasn't like in the closet. He was like in the hallway.

• 10:00Speaker 05

  Now you see so much shit that you go away. No, this was visible.

• 10:04Speaker 04

  He was in the hallway. We saw the videotape.

• 10:08Speaker 05

  It comes out later. You're like, that's not the closet. That's the hallway. He didn't give a fuck. Like, you could tell that he was already...

• 10:14Mark Gagnon?

  Nah, New York is dope. Because when Fab, he was like, yo, Fab, we ain't partying. Fab was like, nah, we, we partying tonight.

• 10:22Speaker 05

  He's like, no, like, but he did party. And I'm like, yo, they let that one go? Like, I had to say something to the body later because I was like, oh, it was...

• 10:30Speaker 04

  What did it feel like all these years, you being the only one calling this out?

• 10:34Speaker 05

  I look like the cra- I've been the crazy guy for a long time.

• 10:37Speaker 04

  You're a hater.

• 10:38Speaker 05

  You're a hater. Yeah, and now everybody's complaining. My ass is hurting. There's all this shit that's coming.

• 10:45Speaker 04

  Fred, you can't make jokes about it.

• 10:47Speaker 05

  No, no.

• 10:47Speaker 04

  The internet might come for you, bro.

• 10:49Speaker 05

  All I'm saying is, you see it now, all of these complaints. People are damned. They were ripped and pillaged. That's true. There was this motherfucker going on. Right? And I do, I'm, I'm, I, what do I get for the, I went through years of a hater. You're a hater, you want this and that. I'm just watching, like, I look at things and go, the, when you see the, the, the, the new lawsuit coming with Jay, the part with Jay, I go, oh, shoot, like.

• 11:17Speaker 05

  Then I think about it, go, that had to be there. So when I was saying that he was missing, he just wasn't actively being out there because they was dealing with that.

• 11:24Speaker 04

  Wait, do you think there's, do you think there's truth to the Jay thing? There's no way.

• 11:28Speaker 05

  I don't know, like, that, look, that was, oh, like, if you say, I have this thing where I'm conflicted when it takes you 20 years to remember something happened to you.

• 11:37Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 11:38Speaker 07

  Okay.

• 11:38Speaker 05

  Just, I just, I, I don't know, I go, oh, so,

• 11:43Speaker 05

  10 years, 20 years later, that comes back. And it's like, all the problems are coming from the ministers touching little boys. I'm reaching me. The laws are the way they are because the, the.

• 11:57Speaker 04

  Cause of Catholics. Cause of the priests.

• 11:59Speaker 05

  The priests touching little boys.

• 12:00Speaker 04

  Oh. Why they were looking at me, bro? I just, I just go to church. I just go to church, right? I have nothing to do with this. I have an alibi.

• 12:07Speaker 05

  That's why the laws allow you to go that far back.

• 12:09Speaker 04

  Turn away from me right there, bro. I'm just a Catholic.

• 12:12Speaker 05

  He said you been dead, dude.

• 12:13Speaker 04

  No, no, no, no. What's the body of Christ taste like?

• 12:20Speaker 04

  You're sacrilegious, you can't do that.

• 12:23Speaker 05

  He's like, yo, drink my blood.

• 12:29Speaker 04

  So it is crazy when after 20 years they come out, that, that shit is foul.

• 12:32Speaker 07

  But with Puffy, you were the only one saying anything for decades.

• 12:36Speaker 05

  Yeah, cause we had our own little thing.

• 12:37Speaker 07

  But you were the only, everybody else is scared.

• 12:39Speaker 05

  Huh?

• 12:40Speaker 07

  But everybody else is scared. So you think maybe this is a similar thing, everybody else is scared? I don't know what it is, I'm just asking.

• 12:44Speaker 05

  I think that they scared.

• 12:45Speaker 07

  But if they scared, then maybe that's why they take it.

• 12:47Mark Gagnon?

  Insinuating Jay-Z a little bit.

• 12:49Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 12:49Mark Gagnon?

  Like, you've been saying people gonna come for him a little bit.

• 12:52Speaker 05

  No, no, I, you know, I thought, I, he would do funny funky stuff like the, the Super Bowl. Like, it was not okay for me to be at the Super Bowl.

• 13:00Speaker 04

  Oh, he, he tried to cut that?

• 13:01Speaker 05

  Yeah, he didn't want me to, well, they worked to make like there was an issue with me in the NFL that doesn't exist.

• 13:08Speaker 04

  So he did the corporate way of trying to keep you down. Oh, it's not me, it's them.

• 13:12Speaker 05

  It's them. And then the, when M says he's not gonna do it if I don't, if I'm not there.

• 13:16Speaker 04

  Let's go.

• 13:17Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 13:18Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 13:19Mark Gagnon?

  What's your and Jay's issue?

• 13:22Speaker 05

  It's just competitive stuff.

• 13:23Mark Gagnon?

  It's really just competitive.

• 13:24Speaker 05

  This is what I'm saying, when it gets past actual art, like actual music, and you're trying to block something that's in business, then it feels weird. It feels like we should be having beef.

• 13:36Speaker 04

  Oh, so that's the behind the scenes thing that we don't see. It's one thing when there's like people talking about each other in music, but there's behind the scenes business deals that a guy is getting involved on the side, and it's not like you're gonna go public and be like, "They tried to stop my vitamin water."

• 13:50Speaker 05

  Yeah, or this deal, and you go, "He said that to you?"

• 13:56Speaker 05

  Like, they'll speak to your temperament, like say, you know, "50's a little crazy," he'll say anything. You see what saying anything did to Kargit.

• 14:03Speaker 04

  So they're trying, he's basically trying to scare people out of doing deals with you. Interesting. And then M shut it down, and he was like, yo,

• 14:10Speaker 05

  "If he's not coming, I'm not coming." And then it changes the whole thing, cuz he really is the biggest one. Like, you know, they can say what they want. But when we go to the stats,

• 14:21Speaker 04

  The numbers don't lie.

• 14:23Mark Gagnon?

  And before the days of the bots and all that shit.

• 14:26Speaker 04

  There's a, there's a, you know, M obviously speaks with you with high praise, but there's a, there's a few videos that I see, and everybody talks about how funny you are, they talk about, obviously, the album's all a success, but like Eminem specifically talks about your rapping skill a lot. Is that mean a lot? I'm like...

• 14:42Speaker 05

  It does. Like, you know, still, look, he, he never left that part of, uh, uh, uh, the creativity. Like, he would go back, when you don't see him, he's back, he's in his regiment of the studio. And this is why, like, he kinda they can't, you can be as good as him, but you can't really beat him at that. Because you have to put all your energy there.

• 15:04Speaker 04

  And you're just not gonna do it. Once these guys get famous, they leave the, they leave the studio.

• 15:07Speaker 05

  And they go, and the thing that makes him feel good is he, "Yo, you heard what I did last..." And it gives them that again. So if that's really what's driving you, it's really tough to to be better than. And some of them may have a gift. It may be, it may be a God given talent that they can rap the way we speak, but they don't work as hard as them. It's like Kobe Bryant is, was outperforming people because he would work harder, conditioning himself to do it. And other than him, I don't think nobody's.

• 15:38Speaker 04

  Who's the most talented rapper you've seen, period? Just talent, natural born?

• 15:43Speaker 05

  This, well, maybe Craig G. Like when an artist can freestyle like without thinking about anything and it just all falls in line and sing. Sometimes they can end up rapping so, it's so easy for them that they don't know exactly what to rap about.

• 16:00Speaker 05

  You see what I'm saying? Technically, it's good.

• 16:01Mark Gagnon?

  And even Eminem, because I remember those freestyles where they would just give him a word and he just has to go.

• 16:06Speaker 04

  He can do that too. He can go. But you're right. Sometimes you miss like the connectivity with the music. Like there are songs, there's comedy where it might not even be like the most perfect joke, but it makes you feel the thing. And that's better to you.

• 16:22Speaker 05

  That it connects. And a lot of times, if there's no truth to it, it's not funny. It has to have some sort of connection that is grounded in truth, but it's almost a warped perspective being offered by the comedian. The timing, the way it comes in. And I look at it, I'm like, yo, nah, that's good. That's great. Like, you know, and you see things like the, the, the white party be there and then they have this little baby like in a sandwich. They're hugging him from the front and the back and stuff. And I'm like, yo, get off of him. That's my, my favorite new artist. I go, get off of him. I don't want him going to those.

• 16:57Speaker 04

  What's up with the hugging pictures at the white party though? What is that?

• 17:00Speaker 05

  I don't know, bro.

• 17:01Speaker 04

  Every picture is a little bit.

• 17:02Speaker 05

  Why is anyone so happy to be there? I'm like, this is regular parties. People don't just hug each other.

• 17:06Speaker 04

  You had to sit in four hours of traffic to drive in here.

• 17:08Speaker 05

  Come on, let's have a group hug. You know what I'm saying? Like this is like, look, I'm gonna shake your hand. Hey, what's up, man? Everything good?

• 17:14Speaker 04

  It does feel controlled. Yo, hold on, hold on, baby. That's crazy.

• 17:18Speaker 05

  I'm telling you, it was too much fun.

• 17:19Speaker 04

  That's crazy.

• 17:20Speaker 05

  It was a little too much fun. That's just white boy shit. That's why it's the white party.

• 17:24Speaker 04

  The whitest party.

• 17:25Speaker 05

  Nah. I was too happy to have him. Too happy to have him. And their baby is.

• 17:29Speaker 04

  What is going on in the one on the right? That is insanity.

• 17:33Speaker 05

  Dude, that's just.

• 17:34Speaker 04

  Both of them, he looks like he's unzipping his pants. Look at the one on the left. Come on. Come on.

• 17:39Speaker 05

  This is bad.

• 17:40Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 17:41Speaker 05

  This is bad.

• 17:41Speaker 04

  Do you, do you call him? Will you call him and be like, yo, listen, you're brilliantly talented.

• 17:45Speaker 05

  Nah, I wait till I see them, but I go to them.

• 17:46Speaker 04

  And you go chill with that shit.

• 17:47Speaker 05

  I go to them and I go, yo, come here. I'm like, what happened?

• 17:51Speaker 05

  I asked him, cause I, I'm like, you know, I'm a fan of the, the new artist. Still I'm watching him and I'm like, yo, he got, he got the it factor. Like he got that thing, little baby. I like him.

• 18:00Speaker 04

  Guys, quick tour announcements. Hawaii, I'll see you guys in a, uh, I'll see you guys in a couple of weeks, man. Mark and I will see you guys out there and, uh, Dove's coming out. The boy's coming out, Val is coming out and, uh, you know, you never know who's gonna come out in Hawaii as well. So we will see you guys at that show, Blythe Stale Arena. Uh, can't wait. That is the final show of the life tour. And so if somebody says they'll give me, you know, extreme amount of money to do it again. So this will be the final show, man. We gotta go out with a bang in the amazing state of Hawaii. Love you, appreciate you. See you guys there. Peace.

• 18:35Speaker 07

  All right, Tucky Cuck boys, it's daytime. I'm taking the rest of this year off, but I'm back in January, January 9th through 11th. I'm gonna be in Tampa. Indians are already scooping up those tickets quickly, so you better hurry up and buy. Also, January 23rd through 25th, I'm gonna be in Sacramento. I promise you those tickets will sell out. I am not bullshitting you. Those tickets will sell out, so hurry up and buy those. January 31st and February 1st, I'm gonna be in West Des Moines, Iowa. I don't know if anybody's buying those tickets. I don't know where the fuck Des Moines is, to be honest with you. I barely know where Iowa is. Is it the Midwest? Is it Western? I don't know. I don't think it's near Pennsylvania. I know that, but I'm excited to go. My travel agent, Sudip Shah, travel king, will book the ticket for me. I got no fucking clue what direction that plane will be going in, but I'll be there.

• 19:19Speaker 07

  Also, February 21st through 22nd, Brea, we are res, we had to reschedule shows from earlier. They are now February 21st and 22nd. February 27th through March 1st, I'll be at Zany's in Nashville. Those shows will also sell out, guys. Buy tickets, your boy's selling out now. That's just what it is. Akash Singh dot com. Look how cute my eyes are on the website. Buy your tickets, let's get the fuck out of here.

• 19:39Speaker 04

  Do you think it's starting to happen where like the people you beef with? Cause this is what I always say, 50 don't fuck with you, I don't fuck with you. I don't know why yet.

• 19:47Speaker 04

  We gotta wait and see. Dude, that's what I always say to everybody. If he don't fuck with you, he got a reason. We gonna figure it out soon. Do you think that's starting to come to fruition? Like, the public is starting to realize, oh, maybe he doesn't fuck with these people.

• 19:58Speaker 05

  Because of this. It's lifestyle stuff. Thing that they're doing is not... Because that was also the harness influence.

• 20:05Speaker 04

  What you mean?

• 20:06Speaker 05

  Like, with the parties and everything with Puff. It's the harness influence to get people there. And then, you know what they're not saying? They're not saying...

• 20:12Speaker 07

  So now he got you.

• 20:14Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 20:14Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 20:15Speaker 05

  Yeah, because you all the way out of pocket, right? It wasn't... Everybody didn't know that.

• 20:18Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 20:21Speaker 05

  You know? Now you gotta be cool now. Don't ever go against this.

• 20:27Speaker 04

  So they're blackmailing with like a booty finger?

• 20:29Speaker 05

  Kind of like, look, you see now you pressing Bieber.

• 20:32Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 20:33Speaker 05

  Yo, what's up? Like, I'm calling you and answering.

• 20:35Speaker 04

  Yeah, that was a little...

• 20:36Speaker 07

  That was weird, yeah. That was weird.

• 20:38Speaker 04

  They did not run through Bieber at that point.

• 20:40Speaker 05

  Still was pressing him like, why you not answering your phone? Like, yo, yo.

• 20:44Speaker 04

  Like, I don't got a video of me fingering you. He wasn't answering for a reason.

• 20:48Speaker 05

  Because you got fingered last time. Because you did things to me.

• 20:54Speaker 04

  Fuck.

• 20:54Speaker 05

  Yeah, but that's the... You know, you can see how it kind of leveled it. I guess it's the same thing with Epstein, right? What else would you be doing?

• 21:01Speaker 04

  Oh, 100%. But you've never wanted to be like in the in-group. I've never seen your entire career.

• 21:09Speaker 05

  Look, I've been out of the in-group before I got here, right? I was already kicked. There was already had relationships with Ja and all these other people.

• 21:17Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 21:17Speaker 05

  So there was already connect... Like, what we would call the artist community was already connected to that. So I just came and was creating my own bubble.

• 21:25Speaker 04

  Yeah, you were a disruptor.

• 21:26Speaker 05

  Things, and I wanted to just help other artists that I signed to the label. I felt had something to build them up at different points. And then it was like, it was a period that Jay retired.

• 21:39Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 21:40Speaker 05

  He had retired and went to go work at Def Jam.

• 21:42Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 21:42Speaker 05

  And then he did the slickest thing I ever experienced.

• 21:45Speaker 07

  Yeah, yeah.

• 21:45Speaker 05

  Because, well, where we from, you're as strong as the crew that you built.

• 21:50Speaker 04

  Hmm.

• 21:50Speaker 05

  Right? So you look out for your people.

• 21:52Speaker 07

  Mm-hmm.

• 21:53Speaker 05

  And then... He just, he didn't build the crew, but he went and took Def Jam's crew.

• 22:00Speaker 04

  Acquired a crew.

• 22:01Speaker 05

  So you went and then he came back with him, Beyonce, Rihanna and.

• 22:05Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, but he still got his people around him. He still got like Ta Ta and a few.

• 22:08Speaker 05

  Oh, no, yeah, and that's, that's just the real crew in my mind, like, you know.

• 22:13Speaker 07

  Alex will ride for Jay-Z no matter what.

• 22:14Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, yeah, I'm a huge Jay-Z fan, but I'm also huge, I'm a New Yorker, so.

• 22:20Speaker 07

  He might be a little bit if you didn't run him off his.

• 22:24Speaker 04

  It'd probably be all.

• 22:25Speaker 05

  Nah, you saved my life, I probably wouldn't.

• 22:30Speaker 04

  All right, all right. Hold on, I always want to talk to you about this. When we were in Boston, we got to talk a little bit, but I want to know the beginning. Yeah. Because what's always impressed me about you is this understanding of, of the human condition. You understand people, you understand what they're afraid of, and not always like fear of their life, fear of shame. You know, fear of public perception, like, so, and the first thing I asked you, I was like, I just need to understand. At what age are you starting to figure this out?

• 22:56Speaker 05

  Oh, that, that was, it's younger for me, like in 12, 13 years.

• 23:00Speaker 04

  That's, you said, you said 12, 13.

• 23:02Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 23:03Speaker 04

  You were starting to even put together your own crew.

• 23:05Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 23:06Speaker 04

  Right?

• 23:06Speaker 05

  Because, because the, the Westland didn't have requirements, like the neighborhood didn't have an age limit.

• 23:14Speaker 05

  How much of it can you sell?

• 23:17Speaker 04

  So who's, who are you getting it from at that time? Who's your connect?

• 23:22Speaker 05

  I would be watching the structure that was around early on, so it was like, a lot of the guys that they see, I beef with, they were part of influences.

• 23:28Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 23:29Speaker 05

  Early on, like the Supreme Team, different dudes that, those different areas, they would all be there and you would kind of see how things, things didn't just happen randomly.

• 23:37Speaker 07

  Right, right, right.

• 23:38Speaker 04

  So you told me this interesting thing that was, was cool. You were leading your crew, you're young, some of these guys are older than you.

• 23:43Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 23:43Speaker 07

  How old are you?

• 23:45Speaker 04

  This is teens.

• 23:46Speaker 05

  Thirteen, fourteen.

• 23:47Speaker 07

  Oh, fuck, alright.

• 23:47Speaker 04

  And then you said you got locked up, you went to juvie.

• 23:50Speaker 05

  Yeah, I was in like a, in a Spoffit, like a juvenile detention center.

• 23:54Speaker 04

  And then you said when you came out, you weren't like the top of the, your role wasn't the top, but you still needed them to respect you.

• 24:01Speaker 05

  Right, so I wouldn't, what's the name, I wouldn't, when you talk about this, when I got back from shop.

• 24:05Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 24:05Speaker 05

  I had done a, a boot camp, uh, six months in a, a military boot camp. I done therapeutic, scargrap, meditability, to accept the things, I kind of changed the curves and changed the things again. There was no difference. Hi, my name's Curtis Jackson, I'm an addict.

• 24:20Speaker 04

  Yeah, we still got it.

• 24:21Speaker 05

  Yeah, you don't forget those days, especially when you haven't been fucked up by drugs already. So if you've been, this is something they would do every night at house meetings. Like you come in and they would all go through the cardinal rules and things and they would read that off. It's the serenity prayer.

• 24:34Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 24:34Speaker 05

  And I like, I would go through that, KSA, all of their different therapeutic things, projects, avoiding longer jail synthesis.

• 24:43Speaker 04

  Yeah. Because if you go through all these things, then you don't end up locked up.

• 24:46Speaker 05

  You don't spend as much time. So then the, you know, from that, you kind of become a little more observant of people. Like in those facilities, they like drop slips, they tell, they start to tell on you.

• 24:59Speaker 04

  What do you mean?

• 25:00Speaker 05

  Like you just came out of jail and now that you're in the shock program, in the military boot camp side, they're like, he skipped steps.

• 25:09Speaker 05

  He did this, he did that. And you like receive punishments in exchange for those different things. And I wasn't adjusting well.

• 25:17Speaker 05

  I had plans to sell drugs when I got home again.

• 25:23Speaker 05

  Who's telling on me? Well, you know, it is like, they would do things to turn the entire platoon against you because they go, okay, everybody drop. And now you just did. So now everybody's, the smoke breaks over, drop. And they're doing pushups now and you're just standing there chilling with your cigarette like. You know what I mean? Then everybody's kind of looking to you do something wrong and watch. And it starts to, you know, do different, I would do things like I would, I volunteer to work in the kitchen.

• 25:55Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 25:56Speaker 05

  Where my platoon had the detail and then I would like sit next to like the beats, like the worst shit that people don't want. You can't talk when you come into this. So you come in and go pop, they go in the prey wrestling, then they go to the position of tension and then they move up. So the mess hall is really quiet and they come through and then you gotta use your hand like this, this or this. Uh, you know, do you want a little bit medium or a lot?

• 26:19Speaker 04

  Like a daddy party?

• 26:20Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 26:24Speaker 04

  How much baby oil?

• 26:28Speaker 05

  So they would do that and I would wait for them to come and I would put the like, like coffee cake next to the beats. And I know you want the coffee cake, but when I didn't like it, I'd just give you beats.

• 26:39Speaker 04

  Right on top of that shit. So this is.

• 26:43Speaker 05

  Look at him like this, like, yeah, all right.

• 26:46Speaker 04

  No, so this is interesting. You're managing leverage at this point in time.

• 26:49Speaker 05

  At that point, yeah, I'm going, I'm just going, I know that they want to, this is the only sweets that they're giving us. So they're gonna want that, and then I put the piece next to it, I go in the kitchen and I get, like, you dropped a slip on me, I'm not saying, I'm just, because if you don't eat it, they're gonna make you wear it.

• 27:02Speaker 04

  Oh. So now you gotta eat these shitty beats with this coffee cake.

• 27:05Speaker 05

  Or they gonna put the shit all over there, it gonna fuck up your whole coffee spirit, coffee cake experience. They're gonna eat these fucking nasty ass beats that they playing. Yes, fuck you, since you wouldn't put me in slip and drop slip shit. And then I'll, I'll find ways to do shit back to them without doing anything back to them.

• 27:21Speaker 04

  Okay, so you're doing shit back to them, but you're also getting them to do what you want. So you understand there's a leverage play.

• 27:26Speaker 05

  Hell yeah, that is absolutely, in every situation.

• 27:29Speaker 04

  So you leave, you leave the camp, you come back, how do you signal to your team? Like, you told me this great story of how, like, you weren't making that much money, but you were giving it all to them, so they knew that you were still the top guy.

• 27:40Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah, because I would, we would go in, when we was backing up, they would give, give you like a eleven hundred dollars. A piece, so it's like four people in there, and I'm in there, and they, but everybody in here used to work for me. So I can't take this eleven hundred dollars. So I'm saying twenty, twenty, twenty.

• 27:59Speaker 05

  Now, I don't worry about, yeah, no, I don't care about that, let's just do this like this. So I kept them still viewing me as the boss.

• 28:06Speaker 04

  Because if you're making the same money as them, they're gonna start to view you as.

• 28:08Speaker 05

  We're the same.

• 28:09Speaker 04

  Yeah. So you're sacrificing, you're not making anything, so that they know that you're still.

• 28:14Speaker 05

  I would tell them, just put a gram, put two and a, two grams on the side, each one of the bags, all your bags thing up, and then if we need it, we go to that, but if you're doing it, so that, and anything that was left over, I just would take the whole leftover.

• 28:27Speaker 05

  You know what I'm saying? But I wouldn't take the money that they knew was, so then when they tried to get them to go bag up without me, they'll be like, no, we're boo boo.

• 28:33Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 28:35Speaker 05

  They don't know they get more if I'm there.

• 28:36Speaker 04

  Yeah. Yeah.

• 28:38Speaker 05

  You know what I'm saying? And then they're going, not, well, yeah, yeah, I'm coming, we're boo boo. I'll keep it as a boo.

• 28:44Speaker 04

  So is people's loyalty usually tied to self-preservation?

• 28:48Speaker 05

  Absolutely.

• 28:49Speaker 04

  So, like, even in the jail thing, it was just like, I want that sugar, I want that coffee cake, I gotta be nice to this guy or else I'm not gonna get that thing.

• 28:56Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 28:57Speaker 04

  Bagging up, it's, hey, I wanna make more money, I'm making more money.

• 29:00Speaker 05

  I'm with him then, cuz when it's there, he better, it's always better when he's there.

• 29:04Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 29:04Speaker 05

  Like, they're looking and they go, nah, then, it took, even in that, when I had accumulated the work, then they came back and there was like, dude, and it was right out, and then they would, it came, he's like, well, I was like, yo, the DA looking for Bob, I said, oh, my name's Curtis.

• 29:23Mark Gagnon?

  That means he's not looking for me, buddy.

• 29:25Speaker 05

  Alright, so they ran out of town, and they thought there was no work there for weeks, there was no work there for like, a few hours, like 12.

• 29:32Speaker 04

  And then you were able to get something else going?

• 29:34Speaker 05

  Oh, just changed the top, so just changed the caps, put them right back up.

• 29:38Speaker 04

  Wow.

• 29:39Speaker 05

  Few hours later, he came back, by the time he came back, I was strapped, and same type of corner thing.

• 29:49Mark Gagnon?

  We weren't as sophisticated.

• 29:51Speaker 05

  We did.

• 29:52Speaker 04

  So, okay, so you're doing this thing, like, and again, I don't wanna incriminate, so if I am doing that, you'd stop me, but like, how do you escalate, how do you grow the business, how do you, you're an entrepreneur at this time, like, I'm sure you're looking at this, you're, okay, do I get more territory, do I sell more people, do I get it for a cheaper price? Like, what is going through your mind?

• 30:10Speaker 07

  How do you scale being a drug dealer?

• 30:12Speaker 05

  You just move faster, you move more faster.

• 30:14Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 30:15Speaker 05

  So if you big, if you big, get bigger, the pieces got bigger, I was giving away more drugs for the money, but the clientele was drawing it off the other corners.

• 30:23Speaker 04

  Ah.

• 30:25Speaker 05

  So it was like, they were pulling everybody to that corner, cuz it was so much more, they were getting more for their money, and it's like.

• 30:30Speaker 04

  So you're giving better deals.

• 30:31Mark Gagnon?

  And expanding.

• 30:37Speaker 07

  Yeah, you're like Amazon for crack.

• 30:38Speaker 05

  Yeah. That's the vibe, like, Amazon is a great model to look at, cuz you see that they'll curate the sales, then after they get the sales, they say, give me a deal with the FedEx and to UPS, and then when they don't give them the deal they want, they're just, okay, we're delivering ourselves. Cuz we got all of the transactions.

• 30:57Speaker 04

  Loyalty is leverage.

• 30:58Speaker 05

  Yep, yeah.

• 30:59Speaker 04

  Interesting. Okay, how to rob?

• 31:04Speaker 04

  I grew up in New York City. I remember the disruption of Had a Rob. It was the first disruptive, in my opinion, it was like the first disruptive rap record. And I'm gonna connect it to something very weird, but do you remember the Blair Witch Project? That movie that came out where we didn't know if it was a real or not, right? And you had to go to the movie theater because you're like, this is so fucking different. I never.

• 31:27Speaker 05

  Nah, it's crazy. Yeah, and it was like, it wasn't very expensive Blair Witch neither.

• 31:31Speaker 04

  Nah, and that was part of the charm because you're like, yo, it might be, that's what I felt Had a Rob was. The energy was like, what the fuck is going on?

• 31:39Speaker 05

  In the culture, it was almost taboo for you to say someone's name.

• 31:42Speaker 04

  Yeah. And you said, everybody gets his jokes though.

• 31:49Mark Gagnon?

  Okay, you came with Had a Rob, that was after you got dropped, right?

• 31:53Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 31:53Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 31:55Speaker 05

  Had a Rob, that happened.

• 31:56Speaker 04

  So wait, you get shot first, then dropped, then Had a Rob?

• 31:59Speaker 05

  No, no, Had a Rob came before I got shot.

• 32:01Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 32:02Speaker 05

  Yeah. What happened is.

• 32:03Speaker 04

  I thought you got.

• 32:04Speaker 05

  With Had a Rob, I was approaching the release date and they were like, Columbia was dead serious, going to just throw it out.

• 32:11Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 32:12Speaker 05

  You know, and that was desperation. It was.

• 32:17Speaker 04

  Desperation for what?

• 32:18Speaker 05

  It was if I didn't do something that commanded attention, it would come out without any attention surrounding it.

• 32:24Speaker 04

  And you didn't want that to flop? You didn't want that?

• 32:26Speaker 05

  No, I'm subjected to the same thing. Like if that worst scenario came from me saying people's names, it would be exactly what I'm subjected to in South Side Jamaica Queen. You see what I'm saying?

• 32:36Speaker 04

  There's no greater risk. I could already get shot. So if I say everybody's name, I got the same. Oh, wow.

• 32:43Speaker 05

  So if it doesn't work, then I go home to that and that's there. That's what's gonna be there.

• 32:47Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 32:47Speaker 04

  That's a great risk calculation. It's like, I'm already afraid of that. I'm already dealing with that.

• 32:52Speaker 05

  Subjected to it regardless. And then you go on, okay, so if this doesn't work, then.

• 32:58Speaker 05

  So I gotta take the shot that makes everybody see or notice that I'm here.

• 33:01Speaker 04

  When did you know, when did you know that it was bubbling?

• 33:03Speaker 05

  Nas. Nas was like, because Nas came, he was like, yo, that was kinda crazy, yo, that kinda felt like when I came, like.

• 33:14Speaker 05

  Like, you know, like the Howard, Coach Lee, and then, then it was like. He took you on tour, right? I am.

• 33:19Speaker 04

  Wait, so Nas stepped up? And what, you think that was like a Queens thing, or did you guys have connection before that?

• 33:24Speaker 05

  Part of Queens thing because it was, yeah, that was a part of it. But he didn't have to, he didn't have to do that.

• 33:31Speaker 04

  And also, he's getting enemies by cosigning you, that's a brave thing.

• 33:35Speaker 05

  There was no enemies, wasn't there yet, it was just, he was looking at it like, like it was disruptive, it was a ill move, like a boss move, and it.

• 33:42Speaker 07

  You did diss Nas a few years later.

• 33:45Speaker 05

  You gotta understand this, you have to understand this. There's a reason, he has a reason for everything. Clear your misunderstanding.

• 33:52Speaker 05

  You do have to understand, look, it's funny, because it ties into shit even to now, right? Like, you go, it was just, yesterday I was just seeing that they're saying a third person that was there to witness this, uh, this thing in, uh, the Diddy case, that, the law school?

• 34:07Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah.

• 34:08Speaker 05

  RJ was Jennifer. Jennifer Lopez. They've said it. It was Jennifer Lopez, the female that they said was there, they said it was Jennifer Lopez.

• 34:16Speaker 04

  Oh, the unnamed female.

• 34:17Speaker 05

  Yeah. Allegedly. Allegedly. Now, look, when you say this.

• 34:21Speaker 07

  Allegedly, Amanda.

• 34:22Speaker 05

  When you do say that.

• 34:25Speaker 04

  Man is working overtime on this shit.

• 34:28Speaker 05

  What just happened?

• 34:31Speaker 04

  The Jewish anxiety corner in this room.

• 34:34Speaker 04

  It's percolating right now.

• 34:37Speaker 05

  I brought up Jennifer because, like, Nas is, was kinda like, he, he took us on a road, on a road, so he kinda knew I took him, if you ask him, he'll tell you that, he said, I thought they was just going to jail, like, cause. Was actively in it like he was the smarter part of the experience.

• 34:54Speaker 07

  Right, right.

• 34:55Speaker 05

  Like the rest of the crew was like, I was at home with them.

• 34:59Speaker 07

  Hmm.

• 35:00Speaker 05

  There was Queensbridge.

• 35:01Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 35:02Speaker 05

  Jungle Ways, Lord, everybody that was there was like horse, it was all comfortable for me to be around him. So when we was out, there was always that energy that was like, we was in different neighborhoods, but the, the energy that's in our neighborhood was there.

• 35:15Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 35:16Speaker 05

  A different version of it.

• 35:17Speaker 07

  Hmm.

• 35:17Speaker 05

  So, and I'm, I was comfortable with being in altercations or, or like popping. So I was like, what? Cause the fight just, you know what, boxing does that to you. It takes the emotion out of the fight.

• 35:30Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 35:31Speaker 05

  Cause you fight so often, you start, it just be like, what? It's like sparring, like most of the time when you get into it with a, with a fighter, like he just, you know, because he punched you already.

• 35:42Speaker 05

  You know what I'm saying? Like you don't see him rocking back and forth.

• 35:48Speaker 05

  In the street, it's easy, he just punched you, start the fight.

• 35:51Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, all the guys who's like trying to take the shit off.

• 35:58Speaker 05

  Trying to find a way out of this shit.

• 36:01Speaker 05

  This shit is sweet.

• 36:04Speaker 07

  I don't even make it to that part, I'm gone.

• 36:09Speaker 05

  He got, look at his arms across.

• 36:13Speaker 05

  I'm not getting in a fucking fight. Are you kidding me?

• 36:17Speaker 07

  You get me.

• 36:17Speaker 05

  He says, are you kidding me? There's gonna be no fight.

• 36:20Speaker 07

  You ever know how people feel tough just because they're around you? I'm not even one of them.

• 36:25Speaker 05

  And in lifestyle, in lifestyle, you know, the funniest, who kid would do that, right? The hooker would come, he go, Joe, we see you punching him, they, I ran out the back, I did this. I said, you ran?

• 36:37Speaker 05

  Are you pussy?

• 36:39Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 36:41Speaker 07

  Shout out, shout out hooker, bro.

• 36:45Speaker 05

  What the fuck are you, that was the first time I ever had a conversation with someone and they said yes.

• 36:52Speaker 05

  And I looked at it and I was like, yo, nah, nah, it's cool. We just need him to play the music.

• 36:58Speaker 04

  Exactly.

• 36:59Speaker 05

  We're not, we're not gonna react to nothing that comes from him because we know that he has this type of. That's fine. It's actually better than he told me than to pretend to be something you're not.

• 37:09Speaker 04

  And now you got an expectation for him to rumble and then he's not getting after it.

• 37:13Speaker 05

  Yeah, I'm like, listen, you go.

• 37:17Speaker 05

  Expect me to do what someone you think is supposed to do in the event that there's all this.

• 37:21Speaker 04

  Exactly, I'm five seven.

• 37:23Speaker 05

  And you go like, yes, regular person, you do something wrong, 911 in the back, 9 fucking 11. Come get this motherfucker, hit me. Don't act like you didn't hit me, you hit me.

• 37:40Speaker 04

  I will see you in court, yes.

• 37:42Speaker 05

  It's odd when you see people that portray lifestyle a certain way, do it.

• 37:47Speaker 04

  I agree.

• 37:47Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 37:48Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. People trying to get tough with me and I told them, I'm calling, I'm calling Uncle Don to look at their taxes. I'd say.

• 37:54Speaker 05

  We're gonna find out.

• 37:55Speaker 04

  If anybody gets tough with me, I told Uncle Don, I call, you better make sure you're not writing off everything. We're gonna look at the write offs. We're looking at the write offs.

• 38:03Speaker 05

  Cause this is not right.

• 38:05Speaker 04

  Yes, yes, yes, exactly.

• 38:11Speaker 05

  Those are different alphabet boys, right?

• 38:13Speaker 04

  We got CIA.

• 38:14Speaker 05

  Yeah, SEC. What I brought into J Lo though was because I had done a record with Jennifer, cause she's really why I recorded with Puff. She told, cause she was on, on the six.

• 38:26Speaker 04

  Every bad thing starts with her.

• 38:27Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 38:28Speaker 04

  What?

• 38:28Speaker 05

  No, no. That was a good tape.

• 38:34Speaker 05

  I was fucked up.

• 38:35Speaker 04

  Free shine though, free shine.

• 38:36Speaker 05

  This is the very beginning.

• 38:38Speaker 04

  God damn.

• 38:40Speaker 05

  He knew she was pandemic bad.

• 38:42Speaker 04

  Let's ride back in the country.

• 38:44Speaker 05

  At that point, at that point, it was good to she, to she, she was like, cause she was on the six with Corey Rooney, you know, we were working, Tommy told her.

• 38:53Speaker 04

  Shout out Tommy, man.

• 38:54Speaker 05

  Yeah, that whole, that whole Columbia regime over there, we was working together and then Jennifer was telling him he should work with me, he's like really talented. And I started to write little things for Puff and stuff like that and then after a while and then. After I worked, we did a couple of things together. She called and they had a record. It was Jennifer's record, so I wrote to the record. And Irv and them found out that I had done the record. This is how, look, they've done things to block me. I haven't blocked. I haven't told a DJ, don't play a record or don't.

• 39:28Speaker 04

  Irv is Irv Gotti.

• 39:29Speaker 05

  Irv Gotti. You can tell now they've admitted it over the time.

• 39:33Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah. And that J Lo record would have been a big look for you because you wasn't.

• 39:36Speaker 05

  Yeah. What they did was use me against me. They went to a time and I'm like, why are you doing business with this guy? Like this guy's like what he says on these records. Like what happens when he flips off Jennifer?

• 39:48Speaker 04

  So they scared him.

• 39:49Speaker 05

  Scared him off for the record. So they ended up like, put Nas, put Nas. This is why even Jay was angry at Irv because he was saying, put Nas on the record.

• 40:00Speaker 04

  Oh, and Jay and Nas were beefing at the time.

• 40:02Speaker 05

  Well, he just won.

• 40:03Speaker 04

  Oh, wow.

• 40:03Mark Gagnon?

  He lost right after either.

• 40:04Speaker 04

  Well, who won? Who won that one to you?

• 40:06Speaker 05

  Nas won.

• 40:07Speaker 04

  Easy. Why, why do we not remember that like?

• 40:09Speaker 05

  Because no, no, he just, look, Nas won that battle.

• 40:12Mark Gagnon?

  It depends which records we.

• 40:13Speaker 05

  That's crazy. Shut up.

• 40:16Speaker 04

  It's called ether and someone for a reason. It's not called whatever. But nobody calls, damn, you really took him over.

• 40:22Speaker 05

  Yeah. You got people there. Look, look, who's best is to the actual, like the, the fans perception of the artist. Because if they're really passionate about you, then you're the best.

• 40:35Speaker 04

  He left Rockefeller after that.

• 40:38Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 40:38Speaker 04

  He said, y'all Rocko, wait, we Rocko, y'all Rock fellas. And he's like, I think I gotta buy Def Jam.

• 40:44Speaker 05

  Yeah, it was kind of crazy.

• 40:45Speaker 04

  I need a new label.

• 40:46Speaker 05

  That was, yeah, but he could have sued Drake.

• 40:50Speaker 04

  What is this?

• 40:51Speaker 05

  He didn't sue.

• 40:52Speaker 04

  Yeah, well, finish the Jennifer thing and then I want to, I want to ask you about Drake.

• 40:55Speaker 05

  She, she had called, we did the record and, and then I'm like in the car. I'm like, yo, and I see that they said new Nas, Jennifer Lopez.

• 41:04Speaker 04

  Oh, no.

• 41:05Speaker 05

  The song comes on and it's Nas. And like he didn't call early on, like he had had some issues with.

• 41:15Speaker 05

  His old lady, his baby mother at the time.

• 41:19Speaker 04

  Yeah, we heard about that.

• 41:20Speaker 05

  While I was there, she kinda wanted to do the same thing to Mega.

• 41:24Speaker 04

  So you wanted to do the same thing to what?

• 41:26Speaker 05

  To Corn Mega.

• 41:27Speaker 04

  Oh, he was doing that to Corn Mega?

• 41:29Speaker 05

  Well, he wanted to, so.

• 41:30Speaker 04

  Oh.

• 41:31Speaker 05

  You know, and he had called me mad times because I could get in contact with the girl holiday he was dealing with at the time.

• 41:36Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah, yeah.

• 41:37Speaker 05

  And they were so, I spoke to him mad times when it was for that, but then when it came to tell me about the record.

• 41:44Speaker 04

  He didn't keep that same energy?

• 41:45Speaker 05

  Same way, so I felt, that's how I was feeling.

• 41:47Speaker 04

  You felt a lack of loyalty, you felt.

• 41:49Speaker 05

  Right, just at that point, and I do like, I love Nas.

• 41:52Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 41:53Speaker 05

  He didn't have to take me on that tour. I just seen him in Qatar.

• 41:57Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 41:57Speaker 05

  He's out there, and I'm like, yo, it's ill to see him because he's, was that before we figured out how to do it.

• 42:04Speaker 04

  Interesting.

• 42:05Speaker 05

  Like, we couldn't, I was not a good rapper at the point, Nas was on fire.

• 42:10Speaker 04

  Yeah, I mean Nas.

• 42:11Speaker 05

  I was still working at becoming good as an artist.

• 42:13Speaker 04

  No Maddox.

• 42:14Speaker 05

  And it took everything that I went through to get me to the point that I was at on Get Rich or Die Trying. You know what I mean? Or it's like, you gotta look and say, the universal theme that worked the best for hip hop artists is life and death.

• 42:27Speaker 04

  Oh, the Biggie.

• 42:28Speaker 05

  Yeah, Biggie, Ready to Die, Life After Death, Tupac, Machiavelli, these are all life and death. Theme records, you know what I mean? So when I say, when I add a little bit of aspiration to it. I say, get rich or die trying.

• 42:44Speaker 04

  That's great. I mean, it's, we were just listening to it, I'm sure all you got, I was listening to, you know, coming, and the energy is absolutely crazy, but it also, like, I remember, is that the biggest debut of an artist?

• 42:57Speaker 05

  Yeah, the biggest, well, the largest debut of hip hop album.

• 43:01Speaker 04

  Wow.

• 43:02Speaker 05

  It's because I got bumped around. I would've came out of Columbia, it'd be like, boop.

• 43:07Speaker 04

  Oh, that's right, so everybody knew about you, you're percolating, there's the heat, you're hearing about all the drama, you're getting better at rap.

• 43:14Speaker 05

  I get shot up, I'm getting better at the same time, and then by the time I come back.

• 43:21Speaker 05

  And I just didn't switch the narrative. See, look, if they go like this, they go, a lot of times we hear people say something and it's dope. And you go, you look and go, is he really like that? Like, is the artist really like living that lifestyle? And the part where it breaks is he's not.

• 43:39Speaker 07

  Yeah, I don't, I don't know if you can tell, I grew up in the suburbs. And that was.

• 43:49Speaker 07

  That was the thing that all, everybody was going crazy about is, you know, this guy, all the rappers that talk all this shit, this guy. And they were like, they were so romanticized by it or whatever. It's like, yo, this is it.

• 44:01Speaker 05

  It's still here, it's still, it's the NBA Youngboy Dirk.

• 44:05Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 44:05Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 44:05Speaker 05

  Area in our culture, hip hop. Like Kendrick, that part is been there too. It was just conscious rappers. It was like common sense, most definitely. It was Talib Kweli.

• 44:16Speaker 07

  I used to love that.

• 44:17Speaker 05

  They were smarter rappers. And then, you know, when a hit record is sit down, be humble? That's fucking smart shit to, to make a hit record out of it?

• 44:27Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 44:28Speaker 05

  Okay. What, what age group is inappropriate to not like what he just said?

• 44:34Speaker 07

  None, none. Oh, wow. So you could reach the masses if you're being a little bit more.

• 44:37Speaker 05

  When it connects, when it's done.

• 44:39Speaker 07

  It's just harder to connect.

• 44:40Speaker 05

  It is harder to do it though, from my perspective.

• 44:42Speaker 07

  Yeah. Quick question about the Nas Jalen thing. He knew you were gonna do that track and still didn't call you? Or do you think maybe he just didn't?

• 44:47Speaker 05

  I don't think it, it was aware of it, but they did that.

• 44:50Speaker 07

  Right, right, right.

• 44:51Speaker 05

  On his behalf. You see what I'm saying? They said, no, no.

• 44:54Speaker 07

  Oh, they did that.

• 44:54Speaker 05

  And then shifted for him to rap on the record. And then when that happens, and I'm like, damn, why you didn't call me to just say that it was, that I'm not on the record, that he's on the record? See, cause they.

• 45:06Mark Gagnon?

  But do you think he knew that you were on the record already? Cause maybe he didn't know.

• 45:09Speaker 05

  I think that he, yeah.

• 45:11Speaker 07

  Oh, he knew.

• 45:12Speaker 04

  They took him off, me off the record.

• 45:13Speaker 07

  Yeah, okay.

• 45:14Speaker 04

  All right, guys, we're gonna take a break for a second. Listen, we gotta talk about how the NFL is trying to, trying to steal Christmas.

• 45:19Speaker 07

  Yeah, I love it, dude.

• 45:20Speaker 04

  They are really grinching it up.

• 45:21Speaker 07

  Yeah, I love it.

• 45:22Speaker 04

  They're trying to steal Christmas from the NBA. NBA always had Christmas locked down.

• 45:25Speaker 07

  That was their day.

• 45:26Speaker 04

  That was their day.

• 45:27Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 45:27Speaker 04

  And the NFL is like, nah, we got it.

• 45:29Speaker 07

  Fifty Cent with Alex, that's my corner now.

• 45:31Speaker 04

  That's, they really tried to take that corner.

• 45:33Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 45:34Speaker 04

  So, we got a couple of games.

• 45:36Speaker 07

  Good games, I think.

• 45:37Speaker 04

  You like these?

• 45:37Speaker 07

  I think good games.

• 45:38Speaker 04

  Steelers, Chiefs?

• 45:39Speaker 07

  Chiefs, the Chiefs, every fucking game they play is close. And the Steelers are good, so the Steelers could win. I guess you still bet on the Chiefs just because they keep winning.

• 45:46Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 45:47Speaker 07

  But, uh, I don't know what the spread is. But Ravens, Texans, I don't trust the Texans. I hate to say that as someone from Texas.

• 45:54Speaker 04

  Ah.

• 45:54Speaker 07

  But I just don't trust them this year.

• 45:56Speaker 04

  So you think Ravens got it?

• 45:57Speaker 07

  I think the Ravens got it. They haven't been amazing this year, but I trust them more than I trust the Texans.

• 46:01Speaker 04

  Bro, going back to the Steelers real quick, Tomlin is so funny. Like, I, I, I know I'm, I'm probably referencing the video poorly, but like, one of my favorite things about the mic'd up situations?

• 46:09Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 46:11Speaker 04

  Is when a player is acting different than normal and the other players realize he's mic'd up.

• 46:16Speaker 07

  Hmm.

• 46:16Speaker 04

  So he'll be like in the locker room, be like, all right, guys, let's go. And they'll be like, oh, you mic'd up. All right. Usually scrolling TikTok with us. But I hear you're gonna be a good teammate right now.

• 46:27Speaker 07

  That's funny. Yeah, Mike Tomlin called somebody out on the way back to the locker room. He was like, oh, you mic'd up, you don't talk like this. Yeah, there was some shit like that after the game.

• 46:35Speaker 04

  Who was the guy that the coach was like, hey, you're about to hit your, uh, your record for, for rushing or some shit?

• 46:39Speaker 07

  Fuck, who was that?

• 46:40Speaker 04

  You saw this?

• 46:41Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 46:41Speaker 04

  I can put you in, you can get it, or you want the other guys? He goes, let the young guys eat.

• 46:44Speaker 07

  Oh, it was Saquon Barkley was the running back.

• 46:47Speaker 04

  Is that what it was? Oh, it was a, it was a, it was a rushing record for a single game.

• 46:51Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 46:51Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 46:52Speaker 07

  It was, uh, Nick Sirianni was the coach.

• 46:53Speaker 04

  That's pretty cool.

• 46:54Speaker 07

  That is, that is. Yeah, Saquon said, let the young boys eat.

• 46:57Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah. Love it. Now, who was mic'd up, Sirianni or Saquon?

• 47:01Speaker 07

  I think Sirianni was mic'd up.

• 47:02Speaker 04

  That's fire.

• 47:03Speaker 07

  Sirianni was mic'd up.

• 47:03Speaker 04

  That's fire.

• 47:04Speaker 07

  Oh, Saquon was mic'd up.

• 47:05Speaker 04

  Ah.

• 47:07Speaker 07

  Okay, so there you go.

• 47:08Speaker 04

  I mean, cool. Yeah, it's fire. But also, like, you already got the game in a bag. Your job is incredibly dangerous.

• 47:17Speaker 07

  Yeah. Why go out there?

• 47:19Speaker 04

  Yeah, like.

• 47:20Speaker 07

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 47:21Speaker 04

  Yeah, fuck the single game record. You could go over the season.

• 47:24Speaker 07

  Also, Saquon hasn't been this healthy in years. Normally he gets hurt.

• 47:28Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 47:29Speaker 07

  Yeah, and I hate the Eagles.

• 47:30Speaker 04

  Yeah, you want to go get hit in the head? You're like, I'll just sit on the bench.

• 47:33Speaker 07

  Let the young guys get concussed.

• 47:37Speaker 04

  Okay, so when, and then, and then the Ravens, you think got it?

• 47:41Speaker 07

  I think the Ravens got it. I think they'll figure it out.

• 47:43Speaker 04

  Is there a storyline you like this year in football? Is there something you find really?

• 47:47Speaker 07

  Detroit and Buffalo.

• 47:48Speaker 04

  Interesting.

• 47:49Speaker 07

  Yeah, I think those are, it's like, we finally could see one of these cities win a Super Bowl. And I think that would be so fucking cool.

• 47:57Speaker 04

  Redemption story.

• 47:57Speaker 07

  Yeah, man, Buffalo, the most loyal fans.

• 48:00Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 48:00Speaker 07

  Detroit been getting shit on for decades in every, every possible way.

• 48:04Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 48:04Speaker 07

  And if either one of them got a Super Bowl, it would be so sick. So I'm hoping that happens.

• 48:09Speaker 05

  I don't think Detroit's ever even been.

• 48:11Speaker 07

  Detroit's never been. I just mean it's a city. The city's just L after L, honestly. And Detroit's a good city. You ever go to Detroit?

• 48:17Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's cool.

• 48:18Speaker 07

  It's a cool city.

• 48:19Speaker 04

  It's actually coming up a little bit.

• 48:20Speaker 07

  Yeah, yeah, I think it's a good, it's, yeah. But I think that would, those are the storylines I'm most interested in. Russell Wilson's like kind of back. He's like kind of playing well. We thought he was cooked, cooked.

• 48:30Speaker 04

  Yeah, what do you think changed there?

• 48:31Speaker 07

  I don't know. I think Pittsburgh has a good enough supporting cast that it doesn't really matter. He just needs to be serviceable and he's been better than that.

• 48:38Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 48:39Speaker 07

  But also Denver, a lot of people were saying Sean Payton, who coached Russell Wilson last year, he was the problem. But now they're kind of winning with a rookie quarterback. So like, he's kind of redeemed himself a little bit. So there's a lot of redemption going on for everybody except the Cowboys, which is cool.

• 48:53Speaker 04

  Well, how about your Chiefs, though? Using the dark magic to always win?

• 48:56Speaker 07

  Ah, the Chiefs look very vulnerable this year, even though they're 11-1. I know that sounds crazy. Maybe 12-1, whatever they are. 12-1, sounds crazy, but they are, I think, 10 straight one-score games they've won. And at some point, you would think that has to give. I know they got Patrick Mahomes, but at some point, you think that has to give.

• 49:15Speaker 05

  You think?

• 49:15Speaker 07

  Because they're, they're like struggling to beat like losing teams.

• 49:18Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 49:18Speaker 07

  One-score game. The Raiders, the Panthers.

• 49:20Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 49:20Speaker 07

  Yeah, you just, I'm not, I don't trust them as much as I do the Bills right now, even though the Bills lost against the Rams last week. I just still think they are a better team, a stronger team. But I could be wrong.

• 49:31Speaker 05

  Mark is so much better at our steak segments after he does a show with Joey Avery.

• 49:34Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 49:35Speaker 05

  He hangs out with Joey Avery and he gets all the insight.

• 49:37Speaker 07

  Bro, I've been absorbing some shit. This football thing is crazy, dude.

• 49:40Speaker 04

  Shout out Joey, man. What up, Joey?

• 49:44Mark Gagnon?

  That's funny. The only thing I know about football on Christmas is Beyonce's performance.

• 49:50Speaker 04

  Yo, you're gonna bet this Christmas, you're gonna do it with Stake. Stake is the leader in global betting and US social casinos. Bet on top sports and political events. And use promo code FLAGRANT for your welcome bonus. Now, let's get back to the show. Can I ask you about the second biggest beef in rap right now, which is Drake and Kendrick? What do you think about that? What's the first? The first is? Wait, what? What's the first? I don't know. I don't know. There's probably something else going on.

• 50:14Speaker 04

  But I know that the second one that people used to be talking about, like,

• 50:18Speaker 04

  what do you think the lawsuit is really about?

• 50:22Speaker 05

  I thought it was about stopping the damage that the Super Bowl would do.

• 50:27Speaker 04

  Because the Super Bowl, now, now, in my opinion, I don't think that the NFL would let Kendrick say certified pedophiles out loud.

• 50:37Speaker 05

  They were asked, I think that they would be part of the damages after that. You know, you're the largest sports event that everyone is viewing. People who watch football who don't watch football.

• 50:46Speaker 04

  Everybody gonna watch it.

• 50:47Speaker 05

  Super Bowl. And when that record just, they're not like, that is the record.

• 50:53Speaker 04

  You can't not play it.

• 50:54Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 50:54Speaker 04

  But you can't say, you can't have lines talking about pedophilia in the song that the whole world is watching.

• 51:01Speaker 05

  Now, look at this, look. Pedophilia, look at this, it's such a proper diss.

• 51:07Speaker 05

  This is not saying anything that would have to be bleeped. You see what I'm saying to you?

• 51:11Speaker 04

  It's not a cuss word.

• 51:13Speaker 05

  It's not a cuss word.

• 51:13Speaker 04

  Isn't that crazy that words are worse than the most heinous act ever? If you properly scientifically say the most heinous act ever, they're like, oh, that's fine.

• 51:23Speaker 05

  It's fine.

• 51:23Speaker 04

  Don't say shit, though. You say shit.

• 51:28Speaker 05

  But like the way, it not being true doesn't matter. Like, in hip-hop, it didn't matter to this point. None of the things that they said were, uh...

• 51:41Speaker 05

  About me were true at that point.

• 51:42Speaker 07

  But there gotta be enough, not proof, but like some smoke around it. If there's any smoke around it, we'll buy it. Faith and Biggie, or sorry, Faith and Pac. There's some picture of them together. So if he says I fucked her, we all see that. One picture, this is all we need as fans. One picture.

• 51:57Speaker 05

  That's what they will.

• 51:58Speaker 07

  Pac, fuck that girl. That's all we need is fans. We're just ready to buy in.

• 52:02Speaker 05

  No, I think that they're just.

• 52:03Speaker 07

  That's it.

• 52:03Speaker 05

  They're ready to hate on Drake.

• 52:05Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 52:05Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 52:06Speaker 04

  You're always ready to hate on who's on top. And now Kendrick, if Kendrick's on top, there's gonna be people ready to hate on him. And he's never been in that position.

• 52:13Speaker 05

  Nah, you know.

• 52:14Speaker 04

  He always been an underdog.

• 52:15Speaker 05

  But he's been a media darling.

• 52:17Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 52:18Speaker 07

  Because he's not number one.

• 52:20Speaker 05

  Kendrick got trophies I didn't even know that they had.

• 52:24Speaker 07

  Which one?

• 52:24Speaker 05

  Like, well, Bullets, uh.

• 52:25Mark Gagnon?

  Bullets of Pride.

• 52:26Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 52:27Speaker 04

  What the fuck, how a rapper get that?

• 52:29Speaker 07

  Sit down.

• 52:30Speaker 05

  Wait, what the fuck? This is what they, I think he's what they would like hip hop culture to be.

• 52:37Speaker 07

  Oh, what do you mean by that?

• 52:39Speaker 05

  Like, the, look at the themes. Uh, Good Kid, Bad City, Mad City. You know what I mean? Like, coming out of the environment and, and being that talented. So they would like it to be that and it be.

• 52:50Speaker 07

  Less scary and dangerous.

• 52:52Speaker 05

  Less aggressive, less, less parts of the element, the environment.

• 52:55Speaker 04

  Cause you can sell it to more people.

• 52:57Speaker 05

  Right.

• 52:57Speaker 04

  You can sell it to way more people than.

• 52:59Speaker 05

  Cause I never seen, I didn't even know what that, when he got that one, I was like, oh. What's that? Like, I seen, look, when Jay signed his contract, the big one was with Beyonce. When he signed that contract, the marriage contract, he got trophies. Now those fucking trophies, those fucking trophies can't roll with him, buddy. He started getting Grammys left and right, man. If you look at his career, if you look at his career.

• 53:27Speaker 07

  You're gonna let him say that?

• 53:28Speaker 04

  Jay was getting Grammys.

• 53:31Speaker 05

  He had one.

• 53:31Speaker 07

  Exactly.

• 53:32Speaker 05

  He had one.

• 53:33Speaker 07

  He show up.

• 53:34Speaker 05

  He has like 20 now. He had like 18 since he been down. Look, he had one, bro, Hard Knock Life.

• 53:42Speaker 07

  You're not wrong.

• 53:43Speaker 05

  He was one. At the same time, he's got some shit, he's like drinking, he has his pictures right in there. Fucking thinks the cop.

• 53:53Speaker 05

  Wait a minute.

• 53:54Speaker 04

  So you're saying the success is derived from the marriage?

• 53:57Speaker 05

  Absolutely, been treated differently.

• 53:59Speaker 07

  The accolades.

• 54:00Speaker 04

  Because he's no longer viewed as what, like a street or gangster rapper? Now he's viewed as a businessman, entrepreneur, family man.

• 54:07Speaker 05

  And the biggest ones, because of the position Beyonce's.

• 54:10Speaker 04

  Oh, wow.

• 54:12Speaker 05

  You were connected to the biggest. Jay got it for the music. Jay got it for the music. I'm saying, since you didn't see.

• 54:18Speaker 04

  He deserved those.

• 54:19Speaker 05

  I'm sitting there, he's like this, like.

• 54:23Speaker 05

  Black excellence, they're sitting there like, yeah, yeah.

• 54:27Speaker 05

  It's the billionaire, bro.

• 54:28Speaker 07

  Oh, I hate you, man.

• 54:29Speaker 05

  I don't have anything going on here. This is the one time I'm gonna be with you niggas this year.

• 54:40Speaker 05

  Come on, bro.

• 54:45Speaker 04

  He just looking at his watch during the whole Roc Nation, brother, is it 3:30?

• 54:49Speaker 05

  Yeah, it's almost time to get out.

• 54:50Speaker 04

  What the fuck is that?

• 54:51Speaker 05

  Yo, I feel like I'm normal again. Get me out of here.

• 54:58Speaker 04

  Oh, wow, so that's the Dealey son.

• 55:00Speaker 05

  Yeah, that's the deal. Other ones, the other ones didn't count as much as that one did.

• 55:06Speaker 07

  Oh, yeah, before I forget this, we talked about Jay. Proximity to Diddy. You don't think he knew anything? He's seemingly around Diddy.

• 55:13Speaker 05

  I don't know. That was a real suburb question.

• 55:20Speaker 07

  Proximity, that's SAT hit parade word.

• 55:23Speaker 05

  Do you think he fucking knew all of the shit that was going on? Then I was like a.

• 55:28Speaker 07

  I don't wanna incriminate myself.

• 55:30Speaker 05

  I know, I know, but the way he said it.

• 55:31Speaker 07

  Like I said.

• 55:32Speaker 05

  No matter how you answer that shit, you snitching.

• 55:41Speaker 05

  You asked the question like a fan.

• 55:43Speaker 07

  Hey, I grew up with white people, but the one thing I know is how to get a black guy in trouble.

• 55:48Speaker 05

  You know what I mean? Yo, just give him the happy meal before you ask him to snitch, brother.

• 55:54Speaker 05

  He said, "Damn, it wasn't even drinking."

• 55:58Speaker 04

  Speaking of, how the hell you pronounce lechim?

• 56:00Speaker 05

  Lechim and de wa.

• 56:01Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 56:02Speaker 05

  It's the king's path.

• 56:03Speaker 04

  King's path. Cause I know Branson, that's the one I pronounce.

• 56:08Speaker 05

  Ah, that's the Branson lifestyle, you don't be outside.

• 56:10Mark Gagnon?

  Fifth, you're not worried that if you throw little al- and you don't throw out allegations, but like, you kinda poke fun at them?

• 56:18Speaker 04

  You just ask questions.

• 56:19Mark Gagnon?

  You don't, you're not worried that it comes back your way? Like people dig up your past and try to pull stuff up?

• 56:24Speaker 05

  I don't got shit in my past, why not?

• 56:26Mark Gagnon?

  Everybody got a little bit, like, not that it's real or not, but...

• 56:30Speaker 05

  I took a pill, but it was for me to perform that, for her to remember, buddy. I didn't fucking give her a drink till she forget what the fuck happened. What the fuck is going on here, bro?

• 56:44Speaker 05

  Yes, I took two drinks.

• 56:47Speaker 05

  I gave me the fucking drink to perform.

• 56:50Speaker 05

  So she can remember and possibly love me for that.

• 56:54Speaker 04

  Didn't work, didn't work.

• 56:54Speaker 05

  What the fuck? Yo, bro, look, I'm doing pretty good.

• 57:00Speaker 05

  You know what I mean? But I'm just saying, you just said it's the opposite of normal shit that we're talking about, bro.

• 57:04Speaker 04

  That is why, I don't know why it's so hard for people to just acknowledge weird shit is weird.

• 57:09Speaker 05

  Have something or you would have reserved energy because you felt like you was doing it too. Then that's, this is people that are looking on separation between their hardships or, or their, uh, the things that they got going on that would be issues and what a celebrity's issues would be.

• 57:24Speaker 04

  Wait, what does that mean?

• 57:25Speaker 05

  They think all celebrities are doing the same thing.

• 57:27Speaker 04

  Ah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 57:28Speaker 05

  Right, and when you see, if I wasn't saying anything, guess what? You could safely say that a person on the outskirts that is not involved in hip hop culture could think that everybody in hip hop culture is with that shit.

• 57:40Speaker 04

  So by you, oh, you're good, bro. You're fucking good. He's protecting hip hop.

• 57:45Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 57:46Speaker 04

  Yeah. If you don't speak out and make them the weirdos, then they gonna think everybody's like that.

• 57:51Speaker 05

  Every single person is like that involved in hip hop culture.

• 57:52Speaker 07

  Makes you think, did Jay do it?

• 57:55Speaker 04

  Sky. He's in trouble. Sky, leave him. We live in New York, bro. No. We live here. No. Free Jay-Z. I'm just saying. Shout out Mufasa, we all gonna go and support. Yo, we been all, see, you are crazy. That was the crazy thing. I, I literally.

• 58:11Mark Gagnon?

  What's the lady at Roc Nation, I gotta send her to.

• 58:15Speaker 05

  You don't feel like that happened, happened the same day, bro? The one thing came out the day before, the next day?

• 58:20Speaker 04

  Bro, I'm, I was eating raisin bran. Okay, I'm eating raisin bran, I got my daughter in my arm, I'm scrolling. Right? I see, I see somebody screenshot your shit is Jay and the whole family at the Mufasa. And then the comment is, 50 said, Jay said, they said I, the 13 year old, let's go watch Mufasa.

• 58:39Speaker 05

  Everybody get dressed. We're going to see Mufasa right now.

• 58:45Speaker 05

  I just think it was a good look, like angling yourself as.

• 58:49Speaker 04

  A family man. But no, but they had to go to the premiere, bro. That was planned already. They had to go to the premiere.

• 58:54Speaker 05

  And I realized that later, but I'm just saying.

• 58:58Speaker 05

  I haven't seen him in a long time. That's all I'm saying. When I hadn't seen him in a long time and then I heard this shit and then I looked and I saw Mufasa, I said, whoa.

• 59:09Speaker 05

  That's, that's all that fucking happened, bro. You think this is on my phone? This is my phone, this is happening in real time.

• 59:17Speaker 05

  I'm going, yo, he said, yo.

• 59:19Speaker 04

  You just gotta say, everyone gets these jokes, bro, that's what you gotta say. Yeah, no. Rappers, listen, comedians are the new rappers, bro, that's the thing.

• 59:26Speaker 05

  Why do people come to my page?

• 59:28Speaker 04

  I know what I'm saying.

• 59:28Speaker 05

  You know what they said? Well, you don't think you're gonna have your next? Yeah, that's what they said to me, buddy. Well, you're next, buddy.

• 59:34Speaker 04

  You're fucking, yeah, you laughing at this? Then you're not worried at all. I know, why? Cause you don't got nothing. I don't have it. All right.

• 59:41Speaker 05

  Eh, there's no girls gonna come out.

• 59:43Speaker 07

  Why you sound skeptical?

• 59:44Speaker 04

  Because I think there are some women that are like. No, no, I think there's some women that are like. This guy supposed to be from Queens, bro.

• 59:49Speaker 05

  No. He's fucked up in Queens. Fucked up in Queens.

• 59:55Speaker 04

  You kick him off the corner one time.

• 59:57Speaker 05

  No, no, what I'm saying is, I know a couple of exes that are like, fucking throw me under the.

• 1:00:02Speaker 04

  You should have let him have the corner. None of this would have happened. If you let him have the corner, it would have been fun.

• 1:00:08Mark Gagnon?

  You know there's some like opportunists. That they'll just, yeah, they'll just throw out the fucking.

• 1:00:12Speaker 05

  But that, that's what I'm saying. You had to have something, look, if you, if you already interacted with the person, right? And you hadn't had a bad experience. It would take more for them to say some of the shit that you see these people saying.

• 1:00:27Speaker 05

  Right, like you go, what made you, what made you, even when things, we part ways and, because a lot of times when we interact with people, they don't necessarily, they're not just having fun for tonight. They think they

• 1:00:38Mark Gagnon?

  Right, right, right.

• 1:00:39Speaker 05

  We're getting into this hardcore relationship that may not materialize, right? So, this, I see what you're saying where they can look and go, well, look, you met the girl in 2003, you hung out with her, you had a good time after the show with 30 girls there, you just went, y'all hung out, right? And y'all just part ways. Right? So there's no negative things between it, but she could look up at the TV now, and you've been a success since then. Feel like that's my life, I was supposed to be there. And that, and be upset with you and say something, but there's a will have any merit to it.

• 1:01:14Mark Gagnon?

  If I gotta keep.

• 1:01:15Speaker 05

  That woman hasn't been in my.

• 1:01:16Mark Gagnon?

  You ain't always have the most amicable, amicable breakups. Do you remember where, I think it's your baby mom, where it's like she was kinda speaking out? And then, all of a sudden, the house just got burnt down.

• 1:01:27Speaker 05

  Yeah, you know, it happens, left eye.

• 1:01:32Mark Gagnon?

  This nigga is crazy.

• 1:01:35Speaker 05

  No, my guy, he goes, wow, so, so, I don't know how you feel about me now. No, no, he's going, he's crazy.

• 1:01:50Speaker 05

  He go, if the, I have faith in not to just use this.

• 1:01:56Speaker 05

  I believe there would be consequences to this. Actions that this brother is talking about.

• 1:02:02Mark Gagnon?

  I agree, man.

• 1:02:04Speaker 05

  Why is that a part of his thought process today while we're here, having a good time?

• 1:02:10Speaker 05

  You do have people that really, look, when you break up with them, they don't care about you anymore. So they'll say things and you go, yeah, but it doesn't hold merit, it doesn't have any no real.

• 1:02:20Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, of course. After all this years and you don't see nothing.

• 1:02:22Speaker 05

  Yeah, like the girl is upset with you, she's just angry with you. She got you and you go.

• 1:02:28Speaker 04

  I thought, I thought the smartest thing Jay said in, in the statement was, uh, if, if you really believe this happened, then press criminal charges. He said, pull up.

• 1:02:36Speaker 05

  But I don't think that was.

• 1:02:38Speaker 04

  Tell me, tell me.

• 1:02:39Speaker 05

  Okay, look, I, because of the statute of limitation, there is.

• 1:02:42Speaker 04

  Oh, there is no criminal, so it's a.

• 1:02:44Speaker 05

  So making a statement is to make people feel like.

• 1:02:47Speaker 07

  But apparently if she's under 18, didn't you say it still could be criminal? He knows he's fed. He used to be a cop. You turned him into a cop, he used to sell drugs and then he became a police officer. Did you know that?

• 1:02:59Mark Gagnon?

  How to rap.

• 1:03:01Speaker 07

  But you know what he would do? When they would arrest G unit guys, he would be like. And he was in the court guilty.

• 1:03:11Mark Gagnon?

  I was, I was actually cool. I'll give you this extra fucking cheese sandwiches.

• 1:03:17Mark Gagnon?

  I'll be looking out, taking care of the family.

• 1:03:20Speaker 05

  Hey, you know, I don't know, man, I think what's her name? I get confused too. When you look at this shit, it's a lot, it's a lot of confusing information, right? But I think when you do point out that, why didn't you file criminal cases? Cause you can't.

• 1:03:34Speaker 04

  You can't, it's over 20 years old. This was 2000, bro.

• 1:03:38Mark Gagnon?

  I think if it's a.

• 1:03:39Speaker 05

  When they're saying this is happening, I'm not even 50 cent yet.

• 1:03:43Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:03:43Speaker 07

  Oh, wow.

• 1:03:44Speaker 05

  You see what I'm saying? Like this is that, that, that's that far back. So it's like, I'm not, it didn't even take place at that point. So I'm like.

• 1:03:53Speaker 04

  Yo, can I, this is, I want to get back to, can I ask you a question? How did you convince Louisiana to change the laws?

• 1:04:00Speaker 05

  No, it was.

• 1:04:01Speaker 04

  Your influence is a little scary sometimes, bro. Like you play around on the internet, but then like you made a state change a law.

• 1:04:09Speaker 07

  Have you been to Shreveport? They need it.

• 1:04:10Speaker 04

  No.

• 1:04:11Speaker 05

  Yes, but.

• 1:04:12Speaker 07

  I spent half my childhood basically in Shreveport. So I know they need everything you can give them.

• 1:04:17Speaker 04

  But can you explain what happened? Cause this was crazy.

• 1:04:20Speaker 05

  It's Shreveport, they were first to provide tax incentives and they, um, they blossomed first and then their political stuff that goes on out there had them pull it. And a lot of the people gravitated to Atlanta and closer places that they could work consistently in the field that they were working in. So now when you get a chance to come out there, like I didn't have.

• 1:04:41Speaker 05

  It was Millennium Studios originally. I worked on Streets of Blood out there. I filmed with Val Kilmer and Sharon Stone. I hadn't experienced industry report as just acting talent. At that point. And then Avi Lerner had owned the studio at that point. And Avi, he just financed the expendables. I did the expendables with Stallone, Jason Satom and Megan Fox.

• 1:05:02Speaker 04

  Dolph Lundgren.

• 1:05:03Speaker 05

  All squad. That's the one that, like, all my action stars are in it. I like action as a genre, so I did that movie. But while I'm there, I'm asking them, like, what was wrong with it? He was like, nothing. It's just the incentive went away. So we were filming in Bulgaria because they understand that they need to bring the productions out there. And then...

• 1:05:21Speaker 04

  And just real quick for everybody that's watching, sometimes states will actually reduce the taxes on a production. It could be a TV show or a film, and that will incentivize people to do it in their incentive Hollywood or their incentive New York. A lot of times they shoot Toronto instead of New York City.

• 1:05:36Speaker 05

  Actually, Hollywood and New York are the worst places to shoot.

• 1:05:38Speaker 04

  It's too expensive.

• 1:05:39Speaker 05

  Yeah, it's the worst place to shoot. And it's turned into that because it's become such a frequent thing. And then now everybody's moving to different areas to create businesses that are functional.

• 1:05:51Speaker 04

  So you do, you go buy this huge film complex in Shreveport, throw a pretty sick comedy show in order to crack off.

• 1:05:59Speaker 05

  Super.

• 1:06:00Speaker 04

  Crack off the weekend.

• 1:06:01Speaker 05

  They can't afford that show.

• 1:06:02Speaker 04

  They can't.

• 1:06:03Speaker 05

  They can't afford that show.

• 1:06:05Speaker 04

  Everybody showed, bro, it was everybody showed. It was Chappelle, Cat.

• 1:06:12Speaker 05

  Andrew Schulz.

• 1:06:13Speaker 04

  I mean, whatever.

• 1:06:15Speaker 05

  More boys, I'm gonna put more boys in.

• 1:06:17Speaker 04

  That's all I'm saying.

• 1:06:20Speaker 04

  I mean, Bill Bellamy was there, like, it was Gary Olds, it was like, DC was there. It was crazy. It was, it was... And it was, I mean, backstage was, there was 2,000 people backstage.

• 1:06:33Speaker 05

  It was definitely.

• 1:06:34Speaker 04

  Now you are an industry god.

• 1:06:36Speaker 05

  Look at you. There was no pressure for them to do, like, long sets. Just being there's enough. Like, they didn't have to, you know, and then...

• 1:06:45Speaker 04

  No, but giving that to the city was very cool. You blow it up and you're there and there's these tax incentives for the state. And then it comes out, I think with the new administration, they're getting rid of the tax incentives.

• 1:06:55Speaker 05

  Again, so I'm like, ah.

• 1:06:56Speaker 04

  I go, what the fuck?

• 1:06:58Speaker 05

  Yeah, you gotta imagine what that feels like after you just spent 5 million dollars.

• 1:07:03Speaker 05

  What? What the fuck?

• 1:07:06Speaker 04

  So what I'm trying to understand is what happened? Because a week later.

• 1:07:10Speaker 05

  Yeah, we went, I went.

• 1:07:11Speaker 04

  The state said, we actually would like to bring back the tax incentives.

• 1:07:15Speaker 05

  Yeah, it was up, but they had to go to pass to different areas of government. So they had, but it was questioned and it went from, they reduced it from 150 million dollars to 125 million. But it's still, now it's functioning, it was still the right place for me to film, so I'll be able to do some things. And I have bought, I bought a lot of property out there.

• 1:07:35Speaker 04

  You bought, I thought the whole waterfront or whatever.

• 1:07:38Speaker 05

  Like downtown, because I got to revitalize it and get it up to, you know, like the hotel rooms was a little off.

• 1:07:48Speaker 05

  I'm like, yo, I gotta make sure the experience is like.

• 1:07:51Speaker 04

  When I'm putting on my performance, they gotta have a nice. You know what's interesting about this is like, that's, that, this is what all the people who buy sports teams are doing now. Like what you're doing with entertainment is what Golden State Warriors did. They basically get the city to pay for the new arena. The conglomerate, the group of people buy up all the real estate around that shitty ass place. And they rent it out to restaurants, they make condos there.

• 1:08:18Speaker 05

  They know it's gonna bring so much traffic.

• 1:08:20Speaker 04

  They make more money off the real estate than they do off the team. So knowing that you're gonna build up this city and you're gonna make it a hub for projects.

• 1:08:27Speaker 05

  Yeah, you gotta get those places and revitalize, and this is the only way that you can assure that it'll be, that the lights will turn on when you need them to. Like so for to actually have places to go out to eat and do things that you enjoy out there. Like, that's, that's the basic experience we say we had. Nah, I was glad, I had a good time, especially if we're going somewhere to work. As long as you had.

• 1:08:46Speaker 04

  I hear what you're saying. If you're in the middle of nowhere, you're like, ah, I gotta do this project for two months, what the fuck? Now, you wanna have a nice restaurant to go to, you wanna have a little club, you want people to wanna be in Shreveport.

• 1:08:55Speaker 05

  Yeah, and that, I can curate that. And then, you know, a lot of, the cool part is a lot of, the artists were in a place where they wanna bring things like, like Jada Kuss got to Kuss Caff. So I'm bringing like we'll create a coffee shop out there.

• 1:09:11Speaker 04

  That's fire.

• 1:09:12Speaker 05

  That's fire. Then Keith Sweat Harlem's Pizza.

• 1:09:16Speaker 04

  Let's go.

• 1:09:18Speaker 05

  I didn't even tell anybody about that.

• 1:09:19Mark Gagnon?

  I know you're huge. How big is your team? Because like, how do you pull off moves like this? Every move you pull off, I'm like, how the fuck is this need to do?

• 1:09:27Speaker 05

  You know what? I got separate teams. They're separated because the G unit, like what would be G unit music team is there? And then you got what G unit from the television would be. So we break it up and a lot of times that's how they mess up their business because they get too big of a team.

• 1:09:43Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah. You never worry about that?

• 1:09:44Speaker 05

  No.

• 1:09:45Mark Gagnon?

  Because like you have.

• 1:09:46Speaker 05

  Because I'm functioning. I'm working.

• 1:09:48Mark Gagnon?

  That's true. But you're also on tour. Like you're also, yeah, you're managing all these different things.

• 1:09:51Speaker 05

  This is actually a large production, bro. Like when I came in here, I said, there's two different setups. You got the whole, all these cameras. Look at all this stuff.

• 1:09:58Speaker 04

  Talk that shit.

• 1:09:59Speaker 05

  Look, that camera right there.

• 1:10:00Speaker 04

  Talk that shit.

• 1:10:01Speaker 05

  That right there could be the whole show. We could put that one over there just in case so get you every now and then.

• 1:10:08Speaker 05

  We could go ahead and make a lot more money. We could keep a lot more money in our pocket. Who bought all of this stuff?

• 1:10:14Speaker 04

  It was donated.

• 1:10:17Mark Gagnon?

  We stole it from the local studio.

• 1:10:19Speaker 05

  They got some money. They got some money around here.

• 1:10:21Mark Gagnon?

  A million square feet and trees.

• 1:10:23Speaker 05

  It's not cheap stuff, bro. This is the professional lights. I could tell.

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• 1:11:37Speaker 04

  Okay, I need to know how you're the only person that's crossed over to Hollywood without changing your personality.

• 1:11:44Speaker 05

  Well, you don't have to. Look, I think if you do things on other people's terms, then it's just wrong for your life. You know, if I had to be different in order to make it happen, I wouldn't be being me and it wouldn't be the right thing.

• 1:11:58Speaker 04

  Wouldn't be authentic.

• 1:11:59Speaker 05

  Yeah. And when you do come in, and I'm not, I'm the executive producer. I'm supposed to be behind the scenes, but I'm just so visible that I can move the audience. You know what I mean? So like I go 50 Cent Action, my fast channel just went balls.

• 1:12:14Speaker 04

  On Roku.

• 1:12:15Speaker 05

  On Roku. Yeah. Pop, I'm already, already gonna be the number one fast channel on Roku.

• 1:12:20Speaker 04

  Already, see?

• 1:12:21Speaker 05

  I said one year. I was like, one day. Feel the 50 Cent effect. You know what I'm saying? It's already happening.

• 1:12:29Speaker 04

  Let it go.

• 1:12:30Speaker 05

  But they, you know, I can't say it officially until they get the numbers back, but.

• 1:12:34Speaker 04

  It's gonna be there. But I just, I just, like, I understand Hollywood a little bit. And I understand the, the fear that everybody there lives in. They're, they're terrified at every second. They're like.

• 1:12:46Speaker 05

  Part of it too is like, there's certain things I'm not gonna compromise, right? You look and go, that's the old Hollywood we talking about. Like, there was like, and it was different too. You wouldn't dare say something about sexuality. Right, but now we know what Puffy was doing with their booty the whole time. Look at this, this is what made me so afraid.

• 1:13:03Speaker 04

  What was he doing with their booties, man?

• 1:13:05Speaker 05

  He was playing with it.

• 1:13:09Speaker 05

  He was playing with it. According to the people complaining.

• 1:13:12Speaker 04

  Allegedly.

• 1:13:13Speaker 05

  Allegedly. Allegedly.

• 1:13:14Speaker 04

  Allegedly.

• 1:13:15Speaker 05

  Allegedly.

• 1:13:16Speaker 04

  Booty go.

• 1:13:16Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:13:17Speaker 04

  Playing with it.

• 1:13:18Speaker 05

  He was playing with him, man.

• 1:13:19Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, this is really good.

• 1:13:20Speaker 04

  Yeah, it is.

• 1:13:21Mark Gagnon?

  This is really good.

• 1:13:22Speaker 05

  Got Hennessy beat by a mile.

• 1:13:25Speaker 04

  Okay, so you find a way to essentially operate as yourself in these spaces. You have to hit a roadblock. There has to be a time where you come across someone, they're like, hey, can you just calm it down on social media?

• 1:13:35Speaker 05

  Always, always get that.

• 1:13:35Speaker 04

  Okay, and then how do you handle that conversation?

• 1:13:38Speaker 05

  You know, I do, look, it was usually from stars. I would get that energy from them. Like, they would.

• 1:13:42Speaker 04

  So you got their whole network on your back and they have the balls to come to you and go, could you just calm it down a little?

• 1:13:48Speaker 05

  They would go, well, you know, you're asking me to not do what is why you even have success.

• 1:13:54Speaker 04

  So they're so detached from.

• 1:13:56Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah. It was like, I don't like, oh, you know what? Okay. Then when you don't see me post anything connected to them, that's because now I'm like, I got 41 shows across 10 different networks.

• 1:14:06Speaker 04

  God damn.

• 1:14:06Speaker 05

  I wouldn't have been able to look.

• 1:14:08Speaker 04

  God.

• 1:14:09Speaker 05

  19 of those shows, they had to tell me no.

• 1:14:12Speaker 04

  Who?

• 1:14:12Speaker 05

  Stars. Stars had to tell me no for me to go out and sell it to another network.

• 1:14:18Speaker 05

  So I'm the easiest person to say no to. I don't care about particularly being on stars. Like, I've dragged the most people to stars with the material that I created. So now when they would like it to be other projects, like they would like it to be Outlander. If that works for the network and that audience is there hardcore for it, it is a bigger network, bro.

• 1:14:40Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:14:41Speaker 05

  Like, you know what I mean? So they wanted to be that, so they promoted that all the time. And I'm like, yo, you forgot to say this.

• 1:14:49Speaker 05

  And I'm like, even though, you know, there's different things. You could, there, just in entertainment, period, there's blocks, there's borders of things, right? And I think when you, um, diversity, there's, they limit how often they'll specifically take a time to point out that it's doing what.

• 1:15:09Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:15:10Speaker 05

  You know what I mean? Because there's other spaces that, that, you know, that it feels like they are pro that or.

• 1:15:17Speaker 04

  Yeah. It's interesting. They care more about their identity being wrapped around Outlander. They're being wrapped around your shows, which are the most successful shows.

• 1:15:29Speaker 05

  Shows that create the actual.

• 1:15:31Speaker 04

  Oh shit. What fucking idiots. You have, the people are gonna decide what your identity is when you're a TV network. A TV network doesn't decide. The people decide.

• 1:15:41Speaker 05

  When you got a CEO there and he says, this is the mandate, premium women, and you go, you know, the shows that we just put up, they work? Don't match your new mandate?

• 1:15:51Speaker 04

  Yeah, they don't get it. It's, and also they have an arrogance. They think that they're the ones that are making the shows successful.

• 1:15:57Speaker 05

  Right, because you're looking, go, the data would tell you if you look, the, your girlfriend might pick the cable bill. That is the bill that is consistently the same size bill every month. But they'll look at it and say, premium women, if you look, the females are paying that bill.

• 1:16:17Speaker 05

  You see what I'm saying? In the house, think about your household. And then they go, when you look and you see that data, you go, oh, premium women. So you want to create content that targets this demo? And it's just a person that has information is not paying attention to.

• 1:16:30Speaker 04

  What they're actually watching.

• 1:16:31Speaker 05

  She's not watching the TV because you like the show. She would be enjoying it with you when you like the show. And they're saying, no, because the data says that they're paying, let's make it about premium women.

• 1:16:43Speaker 04

  Ah, okay. I got you.

• 1:16:47Mark Gagnon?

  You've had some of the craziest business moves, like vitamin water, a bunch of, I can, the list goes on. But power was probably one of the flyest moves because first season, and correct me if I'm wrong, first season, I think you only were getting like seventeen K an episode. Like, he lowballed himself and then after the success, then you renegotiated and now. And now he has fucking twelve shows on stuff.

• 1:17:12Speaker 05

  Just go to the nightclub. Just go, no, no, no performance. I'm gonna be here. I'd have got paid more to do that. I wanted to make the show.

• 1:17:20Mark Gagnon?

  So you bet on yourself. Like, that shit is fire.

• 1:17:22Speaker 05

  And they go, look, they told me, no, we pitched to everybody and got a no first. I, I came back, I had time because I knew the storylines and everything. I wrote music that matches the characters and stuff like that. So I said, this is what we're gonna do when you pitch. Portion of the pitch, then we'll press play. And a portion of pitching, they would press play. And then we'll be able to have the room looking and going, they had an experience with exclusive music from 50 Cent at that point. And then I'm going, this is the place where they spend the less, the least amount of money in the production. Because the last place they're doing is musical clearance. The last thing, they've already done all the special effects, everything else. Everybody's already got paid. So the music supervisor will come in.

• 1:18:04Speaker 04

  This is after, yeah, thought, yeah.

• 1:18:06Speaker 05

  And they'll pull out the things that you put and place things that are comparable.

• 1:18:09Mark Gagnon?

  He changed that. Every show was putting like Drake on, Kendrick songs on.

• 1:18:14Speaker 04

  Also, shout out you for clearing.

• 1:18:16Speaker 05

  Oh, no, that was, that was.

• 1:18:18Speaker 04

  Shout out you for clearing a song, man, for the special. Respect, respect. But, but, okay, so anyway, so you were able to bypass certain things. But one thing you said to me when you were in Boston is, I was like, why do you think the shows are so successful? And, and you're like, well, because it's me. And I kind of laughed and I was like, what do you mean? And then you go, well, I mean, if, if you were from this area and experienced these things, do you want some white lady from Burbank to write your story? Or do you want me supervising?

• 1:18:48Speaker 07

  It's like the rap thing, you like live the rap.

• 1:18:50Speaker 05

  No, look, the, the.

• 1:18:52Speaker 04

  The story's safe with you.

• 1:18:54Speaker 05

  It's find the best possible story you can find and then creatively make up shit. Because your life, you guys would be in each other's lives, just being on this podcast consistently. So you'd be cutting into somebody else's life at some period.

• 1:19:08Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:19:08Speaker 05

  Right? So they don't want to deal with that at all, legal department. They wanted to, so if you make up timelines and you do different things to creatively make a great show that tells the nuances of the story of what the experience is, they'll be excited by that. Me, I needed to be grounded and real.

• 1:19:23Speaker 04

  And they don't know what real is, like the idea that someone who's not from the hood at all, their idea of the super thug character is going to do some goofy shit. And then when the people watch, like, what is the goofiest shit they've pitched to you?

• 1:19:33Speaker 05

  They wanted me to kill an old lady in power, right?

• 1:19:38Mark Gagnon?

  Everybody knows kids and old heads is off limits.

• 1:19:42Speaker 05

  I'm going, wait a minute, I'm going through my rolodex of shit that people did really fucked up shit. And I'm going, why exactly am I killing an old lady?

• 1:19:50Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:19:51Speaker 04

  Cause that's what they think.

• 1:19:52Speaker 05

  Okay, okay.

• 1:19:53Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:19:54Speaker 05

  Can I have, can I have drugs? Can you give me drugs? Can you give me a reason why I'm not in my right mind and I'm doing it? Because that would be an excuse for the behavior being, that was a television moment for me.

• 1:20:05Mark Gagnon?

  That makes sense.

• 1:20:06Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:20:06Speaker 05

  Because I don't know nobody who kills somebody's

• 1:20:10Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:20:10Speaker 05

  old, so old lady to get back into apartment that they used to hustle out of it.

• 1:20:15Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah. What makes characters great is when they're flawed, right? Like, we like Tony Soprano, he's not a good guy, he's not a bad guy. But you have to know what their constitution is. And I think a lot of times when people are so separated from whatever it is, it could be the mafia, it could be the hood, doesn't matter. They're so separate, they don't know what a bad guy is capable of.

• 1:20:34Speaker 05

  Right.

• 1:20:35Speaker 04

  But they don't know what he won't do.

• 1:20:36Speaker 05

  The only thing left was

• 1:20:37Speaker 04

  You're not killing nobody's grandma.

• 1:20:39Speaker 05

  The only thing left was to kill a dog.

• 1:20:43Speaker 05

  This is a bad person.

• 1:20:46Speaker 05

  Fuck, I'm like, yo, so the old lady, you want me to, with a Jesus saves pillow?

• 1:20:53Speaker 05

  With a Jesus slip?

• 1:20:56Speaker 05

  That was really what the scene was. I was like, yo, can I be on drugs? That's when I started, you know, with Lean and the show.

• 1:21:04Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:21:04Speaker 05

  And Tyree, he was, had him with that because I'm like, yeah, just give me something, give me a reason that

• 1:21:11Speaker 04

  To break my constitution, to not be who I am.

• 1:21:13Speaker 05

  And it's, and to make it feel like this could have happened.

• 1:21:16Mark Gagnon?

  Right. When he had so much character development and because every character was complex, now you have a spinoff for every single character.

• 1:21:24Speaker 04

  Exactly. Because the characters are real.

• 1:21:27Mark Gagnon?

  The hood marvel.

• 1:21:30Mark Gagnon?

  Like it's a multiverse. It really is, that shit is fire.

• 1:21:33Speaker 05

  It comes with things, and I got some stuff that's now just coming, it's gonna shake things, it's gonna

• 1:21:38Mark Gagnon?

  Really?

• 1:21:38Speaker 05

  Yeah, it's a good project.

• 1:21:39Speaker 04

  What, yeah, can you give us a little?

• 1:21:42Speaker 05

  Yeah. Oh, I'm working on with Chris Albert right now. Me and Chris, we did Power to, well, Courtney is the writer, was the writer of the show. But me and Mark, Mark Cam introduced me to Courtney, Courtney, we put it together and we got the thing together. But Chris is like the

• 1:21:59Speaker 04

  Know who Chris is. This is the goat who ran HBO for the best of HBO shows.

• 1:22:04Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:22:04Speaker 04

  From Sopranos.

• 1:22:05Speaker 05

  All of it.

• 1:22:06Speaker 04

  The Wire. Oh, wow.

• 1:22:08Speaker 05

  So it's like, he's, he's one of those guys, like, for real.

• 1:22:11Mark Gagnon?

  He sees a bit.

• 1:22:12Speaker 05

  And understands story to a different level where he could actually, he could write the shit himself. But he just have the other writers involved with it, so.

• 1:22:23Speaker 04

  Oh, wow. Okay.

• 1:22:24Speaker 05

  Yeah, so that, that guy, he's, we got another one we're working on now with, where we incorporate DR and PR. We're going across that man this time.

• 1:22:35Speaker 05

  So they'll see our people from DR.

• 1:22:38Speaker 04

  Shout out to Dominican. You gonna have some chicken fights, bro?

• 1:22:43Speaker 05

  It's gonna be.

• 1:22:43Speaker 04

  You need to have them chicken fights.

• 1:22:45Speaker 05

  It's gonna be a lot of.

• 1:22:46Speaker 04

  It's not real if it's not a chicken fight.

• 1:22:50Speaker 04

  Wine stones on the back pocket. We, can I, can I help out with the dressing for that? I want your wardrobe.

• 1:22:58Speaker 05

  But it's a big one.

• 1:22:59Speaker 04

  Is that why you're celibate now? I saw you post about that.

• 1:23:01Speaker 05

  I did, I was, that worked out for me for a little while, bro.

• 1:23:04Speaker 04

  For how long?

• 1:23:05Speaker 05

  It does, like, for.

• 1:23:06Speaker 04

  A weekend?

• 1:23:07Speaker 05

  No, a few months.

• 1:23:08Speaker 04

  That's, that's good. These guys are going to jail, puppy celibate.

• 1:23:13Speaker 04

  Puppy celibate.

• 1:23:15Speaker 05

  He's dating himself.

• 1:23:15Speaker 04

  I mean, Izzy?

• 1:23:18Speaker 04

  Hopefully, hopefully.

• 1:23:19Speaker 05

  I don't imply any of this shit that you're trying to. He said, oh, Izzy?

• 1:23:24Speaker 04

  He's crazy.

• 1:23:24Speaker 05

  Nah, but you know, man.

• 1:23:26Mark Gagnon?

  I'm gonna get killed after this.

• 1:23:28Speaker 04

  Wait a minute, hold on, hold on, hold on. So you said earlier this year that you're gonna be celibate?

• 1:23:33Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:23:33Speaker 04

  He's gonna practice, he's gonna practice. You're gonna practice, you're not gonna play the game, you're just gonna practice.

• 1:23:38Speaker 05

  You can see people that.

• 1:23:41Speaker 05

  You sit across from them at the table and you can see them.

• 1:23:43Speaker 04

  That they're celibate?

• 1:23:44Speaker 05

  No, because you don't want anything from them.

• 1:23:46Speaker 04

  Oh, okay, okay, okay.

• 1:23:49Speaker 05

  Yeah, you sit, you did go out with an attractive girl, you talk to her, you let.

• 1:23:53Speaker 04

  Oh, they can feel the energy?

• 1:23:54Speaker 05

  No, he's just, so what are you doing?

• 1:23:57Speaker 05

  When you ask a girl what she working on and she don't say anything, she's working on you.

• 1:24:02Speaker 04

  So what were you saying to girls that were trying to fuck during this period?

• 1:24:07Speaker 05

  Nah, I'm just hanging out. I'm just not really into that right now. We just need to know each other. Be friends.

• 1:24:12Speaker 04

  And that would work so much.

• 1:24:16Speaker 04

  It just kills them though, right?

• 1:24:18Speaker 05

  But where's the expectations of the things that are here? Like culturally, what's going on in music? A lot of whole shit.

• 1:24:27Speaker 04

  Oh, wow. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:24:28Speaker 05

  What's going on in music culture? They're kind of running. And they think that because they're intending to perform and enjoying it. While they're saying these things, it becomes a part of the thought process.

• 1:24:36Speaker 04

  So, oh.

• 1:24:39Speaker 05

  So there's expectations of you doing things. I'm gonna take a booty ass to Rodeo. I don't give a fuck what she do to me. I'm gonna give her what she want.

• 1:24:48Speaker 05

  But it does make some people think that you should give them what they want.

• 1:24:52Speaker 04

  And the fact that you're not gonna give it to them at all.

• 1:24:54Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:24:55Speaker 04

  They just lose their mind.

• 1:24:56Speaker 05

  It's better that you don't give me what you thought would be create your eligibility for you to get whatever you want.

• 1:25:03Speaker 04

  So now you're not buying anything on Rodeo?

• 1:25:05Speaker 05

  No, no. When I go to Rodeo, it's always my size. It's a seven, it's a nine and a half.

• 1:25:11Speaker 05

  It's always, it's always that, bro.

• 1:25:13Speaker 04

  And you don't trickle on a girl every once in a while just for fun?

• 1:25:16Speaker 05

  I've tricked her for, you know.

• 1:25:19Speaker 04

  You're good at that time. He says a couple of months.

• 1:25:23Speaker 05

  I've done it, you know. Anybody who hasn't done that just doesn't have money.

• 1:25:29Speaker 05

  Yeah, it's the truth, man. It's my life.

• 1:25:34Speaker 04

  You can't brag about not tricking if you don't got it.

• 1:25:38Speaker 05

  He said you didn't, oh, you didn't, you never tricked? No? Hey, you never had it. It never was so easy for you to do it for recreational purposes that you just said, why did I do that?

• 1:25:52Speaker 05

  I didn't have to do that. That was nice.

• 1:25:55Speaker 05

  It's nice of me to do that.

• 1:25:56Speaker 04

  That's a thoughtful man. Can you tell us about Den of Thieves 2?

• 1:26:00Speaker 05

  Den of Thieves.

• 1:26:00Speaker 04

  Starring O'Shea Jackson, dude. That's the homie, dude. The legend, bro. That's my favorite actor, bro.

• 1:26:05Speaker 05

  Light skin and ice shoe.

• 1:26:08Speaker 05

  There's no way you don't win with a lighter skin than ice shoe. There is no way.

• 1:26:13Speaker 04

  A lighter skin ice shoe.

• 1:26:16Speaker 05

  Listen. This is gonna work.

• 1:26:18Speaker 04

  He's sweet, though. He's a sweet, nice. We call him ice cream.

• 1:26:24Speaker 05

  He's one of the most talented actors.

• 1:26:28Speaker 04

  He's brilliant, bro.

• 1:26:29Speaker 05

  I was one of the first.

• 1:26:30Speaker 04

  He's a genius.

• 1:26:31Speaker 05

  Nah, he's a genius.

• 1:26:32Speaker 04

  Nah, for real. He's a genius.

• 1:26:33Speaker 05

  His condition, he's trained.

• 1:26:35Speaker 04

  I know, but he don't listen to music, bro. I was trying to put him onto some of his dad's.

• 1:26:38Speaker 05

  But he's a trained, like, he's an art student, he's an actor.

• 1:26:42Speaker 04

  I believe all that.

• 1:26:43Speaker 05

  For a long time, he's a lot more experienced than we have, bro.

• 1:26:45Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:26:45Speaker 05

  Nah, nah, he's good. I'm looking at him and I'm going, oh shit. So, we was, we was doing publicity for the first, for the Dino Thieves, right? And Gerard Butler was there and he's going.

• 1:26:54Speaker 04

  Shout out to Gerard, man.

• 1:26:55Speaker 05

  Like, he's in the back and I'm like, what the fuck was that for, right? Because we were like going on a talk show. And I'm like, yo, what the fuck did you do that for, bro? And he's like, no, what? Nah, he's like, that's some shit you do when you try to relax yourself before you go act.

• 1:27:09Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:27:10Speaker 05

  You're not gonna go act, you're gonna go be you.

• 1:27:12Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:27:13Speaker 05

  But he still had the nervous energy. He's gonna go in front of the cameras and he goes.

• 1:27:17Speaker 04

  Yeah. And I was like, whoa, bro, I know how to be 50 Cent. I don't have to.

• 1:27:24Speaker 05

  You see what I'm saying? Like, I don't have to do that, bro.

• 1:27:28Speaker 04

  Don't ever have a vulnerable moment around Turner Jackson, bro. He gonna tell the world about that shit.

• 1:27:36Speaker 05

  O'Shea comes over, he's like, yo, what happened, what happened? I said, nah, he said, oh, this guy's giving me shit. Like, you know, I'm like, no, no, just fucking with him, man. I'm happy that you guys would take the time out of your lives to be here to promote my movie. This is what I did the whole time, first of all, I was like, yo, this is great. My movie's fabulous, I got Gerard Butler even came to support me.

• 1:27:57Speaker 04

  Like, they ain't even in the movie.

• 1:27:59Speaker 05

  So, you know, so you know what really, I just really transpired, right? Five years before the movie was made, I had asked my agent at CAA to give me a good action script, right? And he gave it to me, gave me a script and I read it. And he was like, so what do you think? And I was like, well, I thought it was good, like, when the car flipped over and the thing blew up and stuff. And he said, he says, I said, what would you think? And he said, I, I didn't give a shit. I said, you think it was shit? He said, yeah, he said, you told me give you action script, I give you action script. I said, no, give me the best action script. What a fucking annoying thing to do. So I know what the fuck is right and what's not right. Right, and he goes, okay, he gives me a script, the script is Den of Thieves. At this time, Den of Thieves was at Relativity.

• 1:28:44Speaker 05

  Tucker Tully was still working at Relativity and.

• 1:28:46Speaker 04

  That's a production company, Relativity?

• 1:28:48Speaker 05

  And he just mentioned to me that Tucker is Tucker's script, like it was amazing. Project, and I read it, and when I met him at the Oscar party. So he's like, hey, I'm Tucker. I was, oh shit, oh, yeah, I know, I know the script you got. The Den of Thieves, he's like, like, how do you know that script? Like, nobody knows about, it's like one of his projects, like a baby. And then later, he left Relativity, moved to his own company and continued to have a relationship with Christian Gooda Gist and and worked together with that. And then when the project came together, five years later, the only person who had the script at that point was Gerard Butler. But I was reading the scripts, but they gave it to Gerard Butler because they wrote it with intentions for it to be something for Gerard Butler.

• 1:29:30Speaker 05

  I had it because I looked for the best shit to find.

• 1:29:35Speaker 04

  Got it.

• 1:29:35Speaker 05

  So I wasn't in the movie, guys. So five years later, I'm cool enough.

• 1:29:41Speaker 05

  So now you're looking and go, yo, yo, be real dope if you wanna play. And I'm like, I'm available.

• 1:29:48Speaker 05

  Right, you see me doing fucking Power for seventeen thousand dollars. I am available. I would like to, I'm at a point where it's a good time to pivot. Do something different. Like, you look and go, look, right now, you think, like, in Drake's case, because of the success, he's feeling the backlash of his success. Right now, everything that he said he did, they did, and I'll also, they did it.

• 1:30:11Speaker 04

  What do you mean?

• 1:30:12Speaker 05

  The University Music Group.

• 1:30:13Speaker 04

  Reducing the price of the songs.

• 1:30:14Speaker 05

  No, everything that he did is a part of marketing.

• 1:30:17Mark Gagnon?

  I feel that too.

• 1:30:18Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah, they do it for everybody. They probably did it for him.

• 1:30:21Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 1:30:21Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:30:22Speaker 05

  But I would look and go. At Interscope, there was Delivering G Unit and G U Not. I know the feeling.

• 1:30:30Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, wow. So they making money on both sides?

• 1:30:33Speaker 05

  Right, because they're looking at it like a business completely, not personalizing each individual.

• 1:30:39Speaker 04

  Play both sides. You got money on both. Play the record, don't play it all.

• 1:30:42Speaker 05

  They're just selling music. They don't care about.

• 1:30:44Speaker 04

  It's not a personal relationship at all. Yeah, it's like Hershey's Owns Kit Kat 2.

• 1:30:49Speaker 05

  You'll feel personal because you'll feel like you made them so much money.

• 1:30:53Speaker 05

  And they'll go, no, it's not personal at all.

• 1:30:56Mark Gagnon?

  But Drake's your man. How do you personally feel about him suing?

• 1:31:00Speaker 05

  I don't, look, I like Drake's music. I'm a Drake fan. I'm one of those guys that listen to the music and I start to like what's happening in our culture. Alright, so I mean, there's a point where your voice becomes a hit. And as soon as it comes on, we know like, we're not struggling to say this is good.

• 1:31:20Speaker 05

  It's just there. And I like his shit, Kendrick's shit, the same. Kendrick is closer technically because of the Dr. Dre connection. But I do look, I do like, I do feel like I went through a portion of what he's experienced.

• 1:31:34Speaker 04

  When you were on top, everybody wants to take a shot.

• 1:31:36Speaker 05

  Yeah, and that, look, you see how he laughs at everybody?

• 1:31:40Speaker 04

  Yeah, you had the list.

• 1:31:41Speaker 05

  That don't feel like 50 Cent?

• 1:31:44Mark Gagnon?

  Oh shit.

• 1:31:45Speaker 05

  You see what I'm saying? Like, that's what that experience.

• 1:31:47Speaker 04

  You were doing that before you had anything.

• 1:31:49Mark Gagnon?

  Wait, so what happened?

• 1:31:50Speaker 04

  He's good at doing the weave.

• 1:31:52Mark Gagnon?

  How do you feel about suing? Do you think he should sue?

• 1:31:56Speaker 04

  Oh damn, I got caught up in the story. That was good.

• 1:32:00Speaker 05

  This guy is like a cop.

• 1:32:02Speaker 04

  No, he was a cop.

• 1:32:03Mark Gagnon?

  What do you mean, a cop?

• 1:32:04Speaker 05

  I can feel cop energy off his mouth.

• 1:32:05Speaker 04

  He was a cop. That's what I'm trying to tell everybody. Hey, Al, Al, Al, right now?

• 1:32:10Speaker 05

  I ain't locked nobody.

• 1:32:11Speaker 04

  When we're engaging this beef, we need the police on our side. Okay? We have police everywhere, in every single city.

• 1:32:17Speaker 05

  I'm feeling Vlad energy off it.

• 1:32:20Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, don't put that on.

• 1:32:22Speaker 04

  That's crazy.

• 1:32:23Mark Gagnon?

  Black, get him.

• 1:32:25Speaker 04

  That's crazy.

• 1:32:25Speaker 05

  Feeling like someone's going to jail, fucker.

• 1:32:29Speaker 05

  He's going out.

• 1:32:30Mark Gagnon?

  He don't want to answer the question.

• 1:32:31Speaker 05

  You gave the weed, you gave the weed.

• 1:32:32Speaker 04

  Yeah, I know.

• 1:32:33Speaker 05

  He's slick.

• 1:32:35Speaker 04

  Alex, twenty-two.

• 1:32:36Mark Gagnon?

  I know.

• 1:32:37Speaker 04

  Hold on, hold on.

• 1:32:39Mark Gagnon?

  He's slick, buddy.

• 1:32:40Speaker 04

  But tell us, though, tell us, tell us, though.

• 1:32:42Speaker 05

  Nah, I think, I never knew, if it for what I, what I was thinking this for, then I understand it.

• 1:32:49Speaker 04

  If it's for what you're thinking for, yes.

• 1:32:51Speaker 05

  The song for me played at the Super Bowl, because it's a dam, do further damage.

• 1:32:54Speaker 04

  That would be wild, to hear that, that the entire Super Bowl is calling you a pedophile.

• 1:32:58Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 1:32:59Speaker 04

  It's crazy.

• 1:32:59Speaker 05

  Wah, wah, wah, wah, what the fuck? You're at the house like this, and you, you was on fire just a week ago. And now they acting like, did you, did you stink, or something changed about you?

• 1:33:10Speaker 04

  Alright, so everybody, when everybody's coming at you, right, when you're on top, you're on top of the world, you feel the energy of all these people that don't have what you have.

• 1:33:18Speaker 05

  Right.

• 1:33:18Speaker 04

  And even if they're not coming directly, they're like saying indirect sneak shit.

• 1:33:23Speaker 05

  They're still like, would like the idea of you not.

• 1:33:26Speaker 04

  They, and they relish and then support the things that are against you.

• 1:33:31Speaker 05

  Right.

• 1:33:31Speaker 04

  They laugh at it, they regurgitate the, the talking points of it.

• 1:33:36Speaker 05

  To be unaffected by things that bother you will prevent you from actually having to go through.

• 1:33:41Speaker 04

  But they're affected by your success, because they think your success is stopping theirs, but people don't realize is like, they just suck.

• 1:33:48Speaker 05

  Right. It's gonna take time for that bullshit you have to connect anyway.

• 1:33:51Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's never gonna connect, like, like, yeah, that's what they don't get. Because they'd rather think that you're the one stopping them, than they ain't shit. But the reality is, they ain't shit.

• 1:34:02Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, no, no, you're in the way.

• 1:34:03Speaker 05

  They blame a system, or blame something, like, you, you say, look, this is why they always say, an artist's first album was his best album. Because you don't get a second chance at the first impression. That first impression, everyone was in agreeance that this shit is cool.

• 1:34:19Speaker 04

  And you had no expectation.

• 1:34:21Speaker 05

  Right, so it's like.

• 1:34:21Speaker 04

  Low expectations keep the light.

• 1:34:22Speaker 05

  Organically, you can put a record out, nobody knows who you are, and it organically starts streaming. It starts to work.

• 1:34:27Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:34:27Speaker 05

  And they go, you always knew, so you can do things during that period. You can make a million mistakes on that first, while you're going up the charts for the first time. And then afterwards, you have to figure out all of the mistakes that you made and not fuck up again. Because you can't launch the project without having a marketing campaign set and know exactly what the single is and when you're gonna have your targeted date for it to hit radio and everything else. Because it's not gonna stream the same way. They're not finding it for the first time.

• 1:34:56Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:34:57Speaker 05

  So they'll go, oh no, that's cool, but it's not like his first shit.

• 1:35:00Mark Gagnon?

  Is there anything you would have done differently, music wise?

• 1:35:04Speaker 05

  No, I think I made the right decisions, because I didn't, I left before they told me to go.

• 1:35:12Speaker 04

  That's smart. And you know what, usually, the artist is the last one to know he fell off.

• 1:35:18Speaker 05

  Yeah, like you're not paying attention.

• 1:35:20Speaker 04

  Because they're not.

• 1:35:22Speaker 05

  Alright, you know, how the fuck, you know, so you could be there and like, yo, I ain't do the show and, no, because you still think you're supposed to get eighty thousand.

• 1:35:29Speaker 04

  And you don't.

• 1:35:31Speaker 05

  Bring the fucking number down and then you'll have the shows moving around.

• 1:35:34Speaker 04

  Sometimes you need to do a show for seventeen grand and then you got forty-two shows in production. But they won't take that ego. Yeah, sometimes you gotta pay the dope boys on the corner.

• 1:35:42Speaker 05

  And this is like.

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  And that's always been a part of it, and you get it.

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• 1:37:00Speaker 04

  So what would you do if you're Drake now? What would your, how would you advise him in this situation?

• 1:37:05Speaker 05

  I don't know, he got, he got so much, he already has an acting background.

• 1:37:09Speaker 04

  Yeah, so get into the, should he pivot more into movie, film? Go deeper on top of it and all that stuff?

• 1:37:15Speaker 05

  I think he might want to do that kind of stuff anyway. He already is conditioned for it.

• 1:37:19Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:37:19Speaker 05

  But just to give himself a break from, because they'll feel it, they're gonna miss it.

• 1:37:24Speaker 04

  Let them miss it, that's the thing.

• 1:37:25Speaker 05

  They'll miss it, like if you go, if you say, it's nothing but two, we got two artists we're talking about.

• 1:37:30Speaker 04

  True.

• 1:37:31Speaker 05

  And the whole culture that is dominant, they are swallowing up everyone's attention, right? If Drake goes, okay, I'm, I'm gone.

• 1:37:42Mark Gagnon?

  And then it's all on Kendrick, yo, you gotta.

• 1:37:44Speaker 04

  You better feed the streets.

• 1:37:46Speaker 05

  They're gonna be like this, they'll look at Kendrick.

• 1:37:48Speaker 04

  Yo, you can't be five years between albums, though, we need some food right now.

• 1:37:52Mark Gagnon?

  That's smart.

• 1:37:54Speaker 05

  It puts massive pressure on him to do it.

• 1:37:58Speaker 04

  So you say, take a break.

• 1:38:01Speaker 05

  I would watch him, I would just watch him, because he's rich as a motherfucker, he don't need the money.

• 1:38:06Speaker 04

  It's so funny. When was the last time you went on tour before this one?

• 1:38:09Speaker 05

  I went, um, before the last tour? Oh, it's been a while, that's.

• 1:38:13Speaker 04

  And what happened in this tour?

• 1:38:14Speaker 05

  Everything's so.

• 1:38:15Speaker 04

  So it's like, if you give people, I tell the comics all the time, there's these comics that like tour relentlessly, and I'm just, I literally say, I'm like, take a break.

• 1:38:23Speaker 05

  And then let them.

• 1:38:24Speaker 04

  Develop something new, and then let them, let them go to a bunch of other shows and be like, man, that was fun, it wasn't like that.

• 1:38:30Speaker 05

  Yeah, and that energy definitely.

• 1:38:34Speaker 04

  I remember, I remember even talking to you about it, I was like, yo, that shit sold quick, you're like, bro, it was time.

• 1:38:39Speaker 05

  Time, you wait, you haven't gone to these markets, you go wrong time, like to Germany, different areas.

• 1:38:44Speaker 04

  Australia, right?

• 1:38:45Speaker 05

  Yeah. Also do take into account that there's association with Dr. Dre and Eminem, and they don't tour. So I'm the connection.

• 1:38:55Speaker 04

  So if you want to get some Dre and M as well. Yeah, yeah.

• 1:39:01Mark Gagnon?

  Wait, Eminem never tours?

• 1:39:02Speaker 04

  He didn't. Barely.

• 1:39:03Speaker 05

  He ain't been on a tour.

• 1:39:04Speaker 04

  He'll do a show, he'll like pop up and do a show. And I love that you did the residency, the residency after the sold out tour.

• 1:39:11Speaker 05

  Yeah. And then you go, look, residencies, you know how sometimes I have the energy around it like it's, it's over?

• 1:39:16Speaker 04

  Nah, that shit, that shit changed, bro.

• 1:39:18Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:39:18Speaker 04

  You know who changed that? Who, who the fuck was it? It was.

• 1:39:21Mark Gagnon?

  Adele and Usher.

• 1:39:22Speaker 04

  It was, it, well, Usher. I feel after Usher, it was completely different because instead of a, instead of an afterthought, it became a destination for people to go. People like, I'm flying out just to see.

• 1:39:34Speaker 05

  I'm gonna go see that and do this.

• 1:39:35Speaker 04

  Exactly. And then I feel like it was, and also it happened in the DJ world. The biggest DJs would have these residencies, the biggest DJs in the whole world. And they would go there, they'd be like, okay, I'm doing this Sunday party or I'm doing this, whatever.

• 1:39:50Speaker 05

  And be in the same spot.

• 1:39:51Speaker 04

  But that's crazy. In our lifetime, it went from this is where you go at the end of the career to this is how you know you're popping. Cause if you, it's easy to, not easy, but there are people that could do one show in a city and then come back a couple of years later. Not everybody could do five.

• 1:40:09Speaker 05

  Look, that strip, Dre is, is Vegas. Club Dre is Vegas. Cause for the most part, hip hop culture lives in that building.

• 1:40:17Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:40:18Speaker 05

  You know what I'm saying? The rest of it, you know, you don't get a chance to get into those other spots that have a full on production. So now when you go.

• 1:40:26Speaker 04

  And Vegas lets you let it rip too. Cause they, and it's a better show because you don't have to move everything. It all can be built right there.

• 1:40:32Speaker 05

  You build some shit that is fragile, that is not as expensive as what.

• 1:40:35Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:40:36Speaker 04

  Can you, can you tell us what's gonna be at the, all right, so wait, so the residency is this month into January?

• 1:40:42Speaker 05

  Yeah, January 4th, from December 27th to January 4th, a month of residency, then January 10th, the, the, um.

• 1:40:51Mark Gagnon?

  Move becomes.

• 1:40:52Speaker 05

  Didn't the Thieves since did it?

• 1:40:53Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:40:54Speaker 04

  All right, so, but the residency, the setup and like, you're gonna have some people pop, like what's the?

• 1:41:00Speaker 05

  Oh, I'm up, definitely. I, I got juice now, now.

• 1:41:04Speaker 04

  You had, so the New York show, that show was fire. You brought out fucking Fat Joe, Busta, like that show was, that show was fire.

• 1:41:12Speaker 05

  I have a squad come out and I have some fun with it, but definitely like I want to make the perform things that I want to perform instead of the records that.

• 1:41:21Speaker 04

  Oh, so you're gonna switch it up?

• 1:41:22Speaker 05

  Yeah, I'm definitely gonna musically change it up. And Snoop's album is coming out tomorrow, so it's a song featuring me and Eminem on it that is gonna be in the set.

• 1:41:31Speaker 04

  Fire.

• 1:41:31Speaker 07

  Fire.

• 1:41:32Speaker 05

  You know, so I'm performing.

• 1:41:33Speaker 04

  Fire.

• 1:41:33Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, so we might see Snoop and Eminem then.

• 1:41:36Speaker 04

  He might.

• 1:41:38Speaker 05

  He might ask for a special ticket if he was paying for it.

• 1:41:42Speaker 04

  I feel like you're one of the few people that could call in the M favor for pretty much anything.

• 1:41:46Speaker 05

  Well, that's my guy. The way Snoop's relationship with Dre is, is my relationship.

• 1:41:52Speaker 04

  Yeah. But I don't know if there's that many people that have that relationship with him. I'm trying to think.

• 1:41:58Speaker 05

  No, you know, look, they usually are angry at the person that was, is at the helm. Like the, if you are a record company, if the, they all blame the record company.

• 1:42:09Speaker 04

  Yeah, there's a, it's not symbiotic. There's, there's an antagonistic relationship between.

• 1:42:15Speaker 05

  And you look, and you have enough success, you don't know how, because you deal with those feelings to yourself personally. Right? You see, you get the people that resent you for the success that you have and then things that, and you go, what? Like, you can care about it initially and then eventually you'll start to look at it and go, man, fuck what you talking about. Because it can't, I can't allow you to have power over my emotions.

• 1:42:37Speaker 04

  Of course, yeah, yeah.

• 1:42:38Speaker 05

  You know, and.

• 1:42:39Speaker 04

  Serenity prayer.

• 1:42:40Speaker 05

  Right, you let it go.

• 1:42:43Speaker 04

  This motherfucker's smart, man.

• 1:42:49Speaker 07

  Clip it, bro.

• 1:42:49Speaker 05

  Nah, nah, he got some shit going on over there, man.

• 1:42:53Speaker 05

  Smart guy.

• 1:42:54Speaker 04

  He got diddled into him by that priest.

• 1:42:55Speaker 07

  Exactly, yeah.

• 1:42:56Speaker 05

  What?

• 1:42:57Speaker 04

  No, no, no, I was not at the parties, I wasn't at the parties. I'm not the little guy between me and Diddy, that was not me, okay?

• 1:43:05Speaker 04

  Okay, go, go, go.

• 1:43:05Speaker 07

  That's what the P is for, actually.

• 1:43:08Speaker 04

  You were saying, go.

• 1:43:10Speaker 05

  Nah, I just think that, what's her name? You fucked up my whole train of thought.

• 1:43:14Speaker 04

  I'm sorry, I'm sorry. You can't let other people affect your emotions.

• 1:43:17Speaker 05

  Yeah, because they get, they get in, they don't care. Like, they gonna say, they don't care about how you feel today.

• 1:43:22Speaker 04

  None at all.

• 1:43:22Speaker 05

  You know what I'm saying? Like, look what he said, and he goes, well, you don't think that, so you have some sort of backlash or something? And you go, when no one else has said anything.

• 1:43:32Speaker 07

  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:43:34Speaker 05

  With no one else to say anything, right? If you, if you didn't, this means you're in agreeance with those behaviors. Don't you appreciate hip hop culture? Wasn't you just talking about ether and the take on all that? And then go, yeah, so that means that you're okay with those behaviors. Because you didn't say anything.

• 1:43:49Speaker 04

  I'm not, but I get what you're saying.

• 1:43:51Speaker 05

  Yeah, if you didn't say anything, then you look, I only was saying it because I've been saying it for twenty. Like, you know what I'm saying? If it was new, I would have looked and been like, oh shit. Like, like half of the community is like, they don't know. Like, the people who haven't been to the party to understand what that is, like, or what's going on.

• 1:44:08Speaker 04

  Yeah. Well, I think, I think, I think people are so terrified of being left out of the party.

• 1:44:15Speaker 05

  And they're afraid of success. They think a successful people can do anything.

• 1:44:20Speaker 07

  Oh, that they can hurt you, they can silence.

• 1:44:21Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:44:22Speaker 05

  But how extreme the shit is, that they're saying he did.

• 1:44:26Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:44:27Speaker 05

  So if you did half of that shit. Ooh.

• 1:44:33Speaker 05

  Why would you not do whatever the fuck you want to do? If you did half of that, why would you not be conditioned to just do whatever?

• 1:44:39Speaker 04

  Everybody did seem afraid of Diddy, though. You're saying if you get away with it.

• 1:44:43Speaker 05

  Yes, yeah.

• 1:44:43Speaker 04

  If you get away with half of that, you probably think you're invincible.

• 1:44:46Speaker 07

  Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. I mean, I'm not even, you were the one guy who seemed like you're not afraid of Diddy. Was there, was it just like, I've been through way worse?

• 1:44:53Speaker 05

  He's not a scary guy. He never was a fucking scary guy.

• 1:44:57Speaker 04

  That's how I feel. I mean. That's how I feel about my beefs. Sometimes guys are.

• 1:45:03Speaker 05

  I used to say I'm gonna make sweet love to him.

• 1:45:06Speaker 04

  Because he would have enjoyed it. He would have enjoyed it. You can't give him what he wants. That's not a punishment.

• 1:45:12Speaker 05

  These guys, that's why I'm talking about the comedians, you can't really beat them.

• 1:45:15Speaker 04

  Yeah, you can't.

• 1:45:17Speaker 05

  You guys just gotta join these motherfuckers, man, because it's like.

• 1:45:20Speaker 07

  You got it, that's.

• 1:45:21Speaker 04

  Listen to Fifty, bro.

• 1:45:23Speaker 07

  And also we have connections to the IRS, man.

• 1:45:26Speaker 04

  It's a very powerful system that looks into your taxes. So make sure, yeah. A lot of people write off things from music videos that they really shouldn't have write off, you know? And then we look into all those things. Because we look into. We have to look at what you do. We really do.

• 1:45:38Speaker 05

  Yeah, the nightclub bunny.

• 1:45:40Speaker 04

  I know, some people get paid cash, isn't that crazy?

• 1:45:43Speaker 05

  Unaccounted for.

• 1:45:43Speaker 04

  Unaccounted for cash is really a diabolical venture. Why would you risk your freedom for that?

• 1:45:48Speaker 07

  Wow.

• 1:45:51Speaker 05

  I have nothing to do with this shit.

• 1:45:56Speaker 04

  How did you learn so much about the business side? Is this just you live in it? Or did you have a mentor or someone that you trusted that gave you? Great question.

• 1:46:03Speaker 05

  Don't have someone that you trust and it'll help you learn it.

• 1:46:07Speaker 04

  Wait, wait, wait. Live through it.

• 1:46:08Speaker 05

  Yeah, if you look, if you, you're in it, you have the information available to you because it's your situation, scenario. It's just, they're just not taking the time to read or to look at the things that are going on around them. Right?

• 1:46:21Mark Gagnon?

  Even the new ventures where like this.

• 1:46:24Speaker 05

  The old ventures have trained you for the new venture.

• 1:46:26Speaker 04

  Vitamin water, for example. How do you, how do you know how to prepare yourself for that deal? Clearly, they're gonna try to find ways to carve you out of.

• 1:46:34Speaker 05

  You're early, you're getting into a privately held company.

• 1:46:37Speaker 04

  But no other rapper was doing that for you.

• 1:46:39Speaker 05

  Right, but it changes the way that the thought process, how they think about it, because they see it pay off bigger.

• 1:46:44Speaker 04

  But for you, how did you navigate that deal?

• 1:46:48Speaker 05

  Cause I wanted to do it at that point, look, I was consciously not going towards spirits.

• 1:46:53Speaker 04

  Everybody's going spirits, you're like, you always, this is why, this is why I fuck with you is like, whatever everybody's doing.

• 1:47:00Speaker 05

  I'm going.

• 1:47:00Speaker 04

  I wanna go the other way. Don't say people's names, I'm gonna say everyone's. Exactly, exactly, alright. So everybody's going spirits, you're like, I gotta do something different. What is the exact opposite of an alcoholic beverage?

• 1:47:10Speaker 05

  Water.

• 1:47:11Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:47:12Speaker 05

  Vitamins and water.

• 1:47:13Speaker 04

  You know, you know who drinks water?

• 1:47:15Speaker 05

  Everyone.

• 1:47:15Speaker 04

  There we go.

• 1:47:19Mark Gagnon?

  I don't know if you guys remember, but some of the ads you used to make for vitamin water.

• 1:47:23Speaker 04

  So good.

• 1:47:24Mark Gagnon?

  One of the funniest.

• 1:47:26Speaker 04

  Which one, which one?

• 1:47:27Mark Gagnon?

  He just used to, like, if you pull a few of these things up, I remember one, you had like, you was in a suit. It was just like an info machine, you fell.

• 1:47:37Mark Gagnon?

  He threw the vitamin water off the building, you know that hit somebody.

• 1:47:43Mark Gagnon?

  But those days, if social media was around, bruh.

• 1:47:47Speaker 04

  Oh, forget it.

• 1:47:49Mark Gagnon?

  Like, everything, you can't beef with 50 because he'll make a fucking video about you.

• 1:47:55Speaker 04

  I don't know, I always thought that you understood two things, like, one, you're not really afraid of anything, and two, you understood funny. You will make everybody laugh at those people.

• 1:48:05Speaker 05

  It's not when you take yourself too serious, you fuck up everything.

• 1:48:10Speaker 05

  You start believing the hype, like, you start, you are the character you created, damn near, instead of being who you are.

• 1:48:15Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:48:16Mark Gagnon?

  That's why this was so funny, cause at this time, you were the most gangster rapper in the industry, and then he'll do something like this and we're like.

• 1:48:24Speaker 07

  Jackson again, you guys know without a doubt, I promote Vitamin Water the best. Vitamin Water!

• 1:48:31Speaker 07

  Those other guys do that.

• 1:48:36Speaker 07

  That wasn't part of the skit.

• 1:48:43Speaker 05

  This is hilarious.

• 1:48:46Speaker 04

  I mean, that's great. Did you learn any of this from, from M, from watching his come up and being close to him?

• 1:48:51Speaker 05

  Nah, he had, he didn't care about that shit neither. Like, he was definitely.

• 1:48:55Mark Gagnon?

  He was just.

• 1:48:56Speaker 05

  Entertaining. This is what attracts me to the baby.

• 1:49:00Speaker 04

  Oh, the baby, yeah. Yeah, you'll wear a diaper and walk around.

• 1:49:02Speaker 05

  Yeah, the younger generation, when they come with it and, and you don't want to fuck with them, like, don't play with them, because they dead ass serious with, with the other shit. But he's, it's almost, I got Jokel vibes off of him.

• 1:49:15Speaker 04

  Yes, yes, 100%.

• 1:49:17Speaker 05

  You know what I'm saying? Like, it was like, because he's really in the experience, is not the person that you should play with, but is playing.

• 1:49:23Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:49:24Speaker 05

  While he's doing it.

• 1:49:26Speaker 04

  That, it's like, you could be the nicest person in the room if you could fuck up everyone in the room.

• 1:49:31Speaker 05

  Yeah, and you know, I don't even want to fuck up everyone in the room. Who the fuck walks around feeling like that?

• 1:49:36Speaker 04

  Insecure people. The small guy, yeah.

• 1:49:37Speaker 05

  You know what I'm saying? And you go, and you go, well, how would you want to do that? Even if you could, like, I think there's a point that you just, some shit just looks crazy to you. Like, the, the early perspective, you don't have all the information. So you go on, like, even when you say, like, how do you catch up on the things? It's just being aware of it. Like, you can't, if you don't, I use my gut, man, my instincts. I have to know enough to tell you how I feel about it.

• 1:50:03Speaker 05

  You see what I'm saying? Like, if I don't, if you don't know, and, and you're looking at the lawyer like, he got you, he didn't even do what you did to earn the money. He just giving you, so you're saying you paid him to read?

• 1:50:15Speaker 04

  Hmm. So you could read?

• 1:50:17Speaker 05

  Yeah, I can fucking read, like, you know. Champ, huh?

• 1:50:23Speaker 04

  Yo, free Floyd. Free Floyd.

• 1:50:26Speaker 05

  What happened? Somebody wild on him, huh?

• 1:50:28Speaker 04

  That's what they said in London.

• 1:50:29Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:50:30Speaker 04

  What's up with Floyd right now, man?

• 1:50:31Speaker 05

  I don't know. I haven't spoken to him.

• 1:50:33Speaker 04

  That broke my heart that you guys aren't, you know, close.

• 1:50:35Speaker 05

  Still my guy, man. Still my guy. I just, see, boxing is ill.

• 1:50:39Speaker 04

  But that was a good run. When you guys were, when you guys were together, that was probably the heyday of boxing in my generation.

• 1:50:46Speaker 05

  That's cool.

• 1:50:47Speaker 04

  Again, I was young for Tyson coming up, so I didn't get to fully experience his. So my generation was when Floyd is out there and then 50's kind of running the Floyd show. And it was like...

• 1:51:00Speaker 05

  You know what happens is because, look, we've been friends since 02. He had flew to Puerto Rico to be at Make Your Power Summit before my music even took off in 03.

• 1:51:08Speaker 04

  Oh, wow.

• 1:51:09Speaker 05

  So me and Floyd is like, like even when I fight with him, I don't hate him. That's my voice. I still like my brother. We just don't get along because I don't need him for nothing. He don't need me for nothing. Every now and then he goes and then he goes, yo, what's up, Five? What you doing? Nothing, everything good.

• 1:51:25Speaker 04

  All right, good.

• 1:51:26Speaker 05

  And we go back to everything being cool, but he act funny in between times.

• 1:51:30Speaker 04

  He is the greatest ever, though.

• 1:51:32Speaker 05

  Absolutely. You ever hear me make reference to him and not call him champ?

• 1:51:35Speaker 04

  No, it's true. He's the greatest. He's the, I, I've said that he's the greatest great. Like, I think he's better at boxing than like Einstein was at science.

• 1:51:46Speaker 05

  It's extreme focus. Like, you know, he chose that early. You know, and a lot of times with the dads, when the dads make the best babysitters, they're living vicariously to the kids. Like, they turn, they take the kid to the gym. They go to the gym. And they building the L1 champion. You know what I mean? And then they turn, that's why I'm in Floyd senior, used to get into it because there's so much alike.

• 1:52:09Speaker 04

  There's a little competitive instinct right there.

• 1:52:10Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:52:11Speaker 04

  I mean, that soap opera of boxing when like senior coach De La Hoya. Yeah, that's crazy. I don't even think people could wrap their heads around what we saw. Like, Floyd Mayweather senior was the coach of De La Hoya when De La Hoya fought Floyd. Can you imagine what's happening?

• 1:52:33Speaker 05

  Nah, I said, yeah, but you know, after a while, you, you, uh...

• 1:52:40Speaker 05

  It's him. He turned into him.

• 1:52:42Speaker 04

  What does that mean? He turned into him?

• 1:52:44Speaker 05

  Lil Floyd turned into Floyd Seaton. At that point, and he didn't need any validation or any acceptance from him. He just wanted to go do whatever he wanted to.

• 1:52:54Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:52:55Speaker 05

  And you can't help him beat me because I'm better.

• 1:52:58Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:52:59Speaker 05

  You understand what I'm saying?

• 1:53:00Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:53:01Speaker 05

  And Roger was so much, such an important part of Floyd's life at that point.

• 1:53:07Speaker 04

  Roger is his uncle. They were both, they were both boxers. Accomplished.

• 1:53:11Speaker 05

  Yeah, so. He had that.

• 1:53:13Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:53:14Speaker 05

  And that hurt.

• 1:53:15Speaker 04

  R I P, right? I think Roger passed, right? Yeah. Do you ever still spar?

• 1:53:19Speaker 05

  Nah, I haven't done it in a while. I should. Yeah. I haven't been in a street fight in a while, I mean.

• 1:53:23Speaker 04

  That's probably, I mean, that's. Don't speak about it so longingly.

• 1:53:29Speaker 04

  I miss a street fight.

• 1:53:30Mark Gagnon?

  But you do want to just make sure, like, I still got it.

• 1:53:36Speaker 04

  What was your go-to move in a street fight?

• 1:53:38Mark Gagnon?

  Punch first.

• 1:53:39Speaker 05

  Nah, yeah, I like to get off first.

• 1:53:41Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:53:42Speaker 05

  I start to fight.

• 1:53:43Mark Gagnon?

  We've seen it a couple times.

• 1:53:45Speaker 05

  I can feel it getting there, like, we feel it.

• 1:53:47Speaker 04

  Wait, like, the energy you feel and then immediately you're swinging?

• 1:53:50Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:53:51Speaker 05

  Because it's just where it is. Like, you can, you know the environment, you know what's there.

• 1:53:54Speaker 04

  Wait, what are you, wait, wait? The phone?

• 1:53:58Speaker 04

  Why is the litigator stepping in here and telling us how to street fight?

• 1:54:06Mark Gagnon?

  But he treated, you treated music the same way, because it's like, you wouldn't even, you used to beef with people just because they were standing next to somebody you ain't like. And you would punch first.

• 1:54:15Speaker 05

  What you're saying is, I know how your perception of me is from just viewing the culture and stuff like that, but look at,

• 1:54:25Speaker 05

  right now, our culture is standing next to the wrong person means you're their ops.

• 1:54:28Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, no, no, no, I agree with it, but I'm just saying you would shoot first, which.

• 1:54:33Speaker 05

  If it's street culture and anybody that put themselves too close to someone who was. Not associated with you or anti you. You treated them the same way as that, like, you know, like, there's no, that's not even new. That is really what you see happening.

• 1:54:48Mark Gagnon?

  But then when you're thinking about it, music business wise, it's like, hey, let me just do a record with somebody who got a little heat right now just because.

• 1:54:55Speaker 05

  Right, but then you look, when they have, when they got any type of gang references in their music or gang culture, they know that if they're associated with this person and then they go try to associate with the other one, that they put themselves in a serious situation.

• 1:55:08Mark Gagnon?

  Got you.

• 1:55:09Speaker 05

  Like, the people around is looking at, nah, he was just over there with them.

• 1:55:14Mark Gagnon?

  I feel that.

• 1:55:14Speaker 05

  So even, you know, even if they're not, they could just not be in control when it happens to you. Cause you was just with this person and you came over there and the rest of their crew is feeling like that. The artist is not usually the leader of that crew.

• 1:55:29Mark Gagnon?

  But that's how you know those weren't real, because those people you made up with, like Jada, Fat, you made up with them. But like, the people you still got beef with, that's real beef.

• 1:55:38Speaker 05

  Right, cause you're looking, you say, that's competitive, like, our culture being competitive. They didn't say anything that held merit that would allow me to, years later, still hate, dislike the person.

• 1:55:52Speaker 04

  I feel like you even said you really like Jada's music.

• 1:55:54Speaker 05

  Yeah, he's nice.

• 1:55:59Speaker 05

  Look, you can't be good if you can't hear good.

• 1:56:04Speaker 05

  If you can't hear good.

• 1:56:07Speaker 05

  How the fuck can you make good music? You know, if you can't hear it. So other people, I look and go, yeah, this nigga, okay. You think you could take me, huh, nigga?

• 1:56:19Speaker 05

  Come on, bitch. Playing with me, you know what I mean? Like, this motherfucker's good. That's why I'm fighting fucking with him.

• 1:56:26Mark Gagnon?

  Do you feed off that?

• 1:56:27Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:56:28Mark Gagnon?

  Like, the competitive nature thing?

• 1:56:29Speaker 05

  Competitors, then what you do? You know, and they look.

• 1:56:33Speaker 07

  Are you like that with everything? Or are you just music? Are you like that, your show, you need to have the highest ratings?

• 1:56:39Speaker 05

  I want, yeah, I want to see. And I rate it specifically for me because I'm not receiving accolades connected to the performance.

• 1:56:46Speaker 07

  Ah, so the validation comes from the people.

• 1:56:48Speaker 05

  The audience.

• 1:56:48Speaker 07

  Right, right, right. Yeah.

• 1:56:50Speaker 05

  So, I'm not, like, I'm, my people choice awards, I don't give a fuck about the other things. Based on the actual performance of the material, that's what I care about. And then the networks are on the same side. So they'll look and they'll go, nah, this shit is the biggest shit we got. They don't care if there was a trophy received based on it. But, you, you know, I say this, when I say this, my publicist cringes every time I say this, alright?

• 1:57:16Mark Gagnon?

  Get ready.

• 1:57:17Speaker 05

  I'm gonna say this, guys. According to the Emmys, the most talented black man in the world is RuPaul.

• 1:57:27Speaker 07

  Why is that? You would love it. That's a very PC way of looking at it.

• 1:57:31Speaker 05

  We support, we support the, uh, the LGBTQ community out here. Google, Google, how many nominations?

• 1:57:38Speaker 07

  Alright, let's look.

• 1:57:39Speaker 05

  It'll pop up, like, a whopping 19 nominations.

• 1:57:42Speaker 07

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:57:43Speaker 05

  And, you know, it's, they pick what to support.

• 1:57:47Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:57:48Speaker 05

  And then the other things that are there, you can outperform Succession, you can outperform, or we can see the numbers and they got, and not giving that a trophy.

• 1:57:56Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:57:57Speaker 05

  Cause it's diversity versus, uh...

• 1:58:01Speaker 07

  Wow. I mean, this is...

• 1:58:03Speaker 01

  14 awards, 25 nominations.

• 1:58:05Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:58:06Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:58:06Speaker 05

  You see?

• 1:58:07Speaker 07

  But you also can't validate yourself by these things.

• 1:58:09Speaker 05

  No, but if you want a trophy, go drag, baby.

• 1:58:13Speaker 07

  It's a good idea, actually.

• 1:58:14Speaker 05

  That's the way you go, like, even if your content is in that area. There is a higher probability that you're a record.

• 1:58:20Speaker 07

  But if it doesn't work, you know what I mean? Big Mama's House, he didn't get no Oscar.

• 1:58:24Speaker 05

  I know, but look, look what I just said, man.

• 1:58:26Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:58:27Speaker 05

  You saw how many nominations that was, bro?

• 1:58:29Speaker 07

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:58:31Speaker 05

  You know, so, no one's even close. There's no one, he's a close second, bro. I'm just saying, if there wasn't a clear, uh...

• 1:58:41Speaker 07

  Is there, is there anything you've ever failed at?

• 1:58:44Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. But most people, uh, True Friendship...

• 1:58:51Speaker 05

  Alright.

• 1:58:52Speaker 04

  What is that?

• 1:58:52Speaker 05

  How many people you know married and divorced?

• 1:58:54Speaker 04

  Oh.

• 1:58:55Speaker 05

  How many times you been with somebody that you thought would be with you?

• 1:58:58Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:58:59Speaker 05

  Hmm. You see what I'm saying? So without even having the penalty of being married and then being divorced, when that person is not the person for you, then that's where you fell.

• 1:59:10Speaker 04

  You're sitting next to two people that their first girlfriend are now their wives.

• 1:59:14Speaker 05

  Yeah. Yeah.

• 1:59:16Speaker 04

  They're married to each other.

• 1:59:19Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:59:19Speaker 04

  That's my move right there.

• 1:59:20Mark Gagnon?

  Well, no, no.

• 1:59:21Speaker 04

  Me and him.

• 1:59:22Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:59:22Speaker 05

  Yup.

• 1:59:23Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:59:23Speaker 05

  I admit it.

• 1:59:24Mark Gagnon?

  They've only slept with one.

• 1:59:25Speaker 04

  One woman, yeah.

• 1:59:26Speaker 05

  You serious?

• 1:59:27Speaker 04

  Yeah, my wife when I was seventeen, eighteen years old.

• 1:59:30Speaker 05

  She was amazing.

• 1:59:32Speaker 04

  Come on, bro.

• 1:59:33Speaker 05

  She was no joke. Yo, honestly, he wouldn't know. He really wouldn't know. But that shit wiped out the confusion.

• 1:59:42Speaker 05

  That shit can't get better than this. No, it can't get better than this. God, thank you.

• 1:59:49Mark Gagnon?

  Compared to the diddling, this person's awesome, right?

• 1:59:53Speaker 05

  This guy's actually, I'm gonna take your number, we're gonna be friends.

• 1:59:56Speaker 04

  Let's do it.

• 1:59:57Mark Gagnon?

  I can't wait.

• 2:00:01Speaker 05

  I know he's going home, she's fucking wife, right?

• 2:00:03Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:00:05Speaker 05

  He doesn't have really crazy friends and shit like that. He's not a racist shit.

• 2:00:09Speaker 04

  Yeah, these guys.

• 2:00:10Speaker 05

  Crazy, but this guy's good crazy. You know what I mean? Like, I think, man, you fucking making the checklist, you wanna do a TV show? Let's do a different TV show.

• 2:00:21Speaker 04

  Yeah, sounds good.

• 2:00:22Speaker 05

  I mean, we gotta talk first because you already on your shit. We can make some moves, I'm gonna make some moves, that's just fun.

• 2:00:31Speaker 05

  Everybody eats over here, bro. This shit just seems a little more stable than usual.

• 2:00:37Speaker 05

  Yeah, you know what I'm saying? He says, you two, first one, woman, too.

• 2:00:40Speaker 04

  Same.

• 2:00:41Speaker 05

  Yup.

• 2:00:41Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:00:42Speaker 05

  That's the first time I heard that shit before.

• 2:00:43Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:00:45Speaker 05

  We got two of them, that shit is crazy.

• 2:00:47Speaker 04

  If you ask my wife, I'm the best dick she ever had.

• 2:00:49Speaker 05

  It's true.

• 2:00:50Speaker 04

  Same.

• 2:00:51Mark Gagnon?

  That's nice.

• 2:00:51Speaker 04

  Same.

• 2:00:53Speaker 05

  She don't know how much better it can get, my wife.

• 2:00:56Speaker 05

  Do you block your computer from pornography?

• 2:00:59Speaker 04

  Uh, no.

• 2:01:00Speaker 05

  Because she knows there's other dick out there. She would have to know that there's a difference.

• 2:01:08Speaker 05

  She has to be absolutely satisfied and she fucks with you, baby.

• 2:01:11Speaker 04

  So fucked.

• 2:01:12Speaker 05

  How long has that been, how long?

• 2:01:14Speaker 04

  Uh, we've been together like ten years.

• 2:01:15Speaker 05

  Ten years?

• 2:01:16Speaker 04

  Yeah, and we just had a baby two months ago.

• 2:01:18Speaker 05

  Wow.

• 2:01:18Speaker 04

  Yeah, so we're doing it.

• 2:01:20Speaker 05

  You, how long?

• 2:01:21Speaker 07

  Nine years, coming in or no baby.

• 2:01:25Speaker 05

  For nine years?

• 2:01:26Speaker 07

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 2:01:30Speaker 05

  Did you get a dog yet?

• 2:01:31Speaker 07

  We got a dog.

• 2:01:32Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's a cute dog.

• 2:01:32Speaker 05

  You got a baby already?

• 2:01:33Speaker 07

  Yeah, exactly. That's the start.

• 2:01:36Speaker 05

  Fuck that, you said nine years, anything that lasts nine years is good.

• 2:01:40Speaker 07

  She's great.

• 2:01:41Speaker 04

  Yeah, but the relationship shit is hard, making it work.

• 2:01:45Speaker 05

  Just people are difficult, right?

• 2:01:46Speaker 07

  Mm-hmm, yeah.

• 2:01:47Speaker 05

  Look at you, how long you lasting? Bitch, you not special. Yeah, motherfucker. I gotta, I gotta sign for, I gotta sign for, so, you know, we, we not all perfect. You're from far away, bitch. I know, you didn't last, you didn't last a month.

• 2:02:05Speaker 05

  Mine's lasting as long as yours, nigga.

• 2:02:07Speaker 07

  Yeah, exactly.

• 2:02:14Speaker 04

  Just like you can't be for fifty, bro, it always comes back around.

• 2:02:18Speaker 05

  At least I'm not doing the Tyrese shit.

• 2:02:20Speaker 07

  What's the Tyrese shit? What's Tyrese doing?

• 2:02:24Speaker 05

  You think you gonna take this from me? I would shoot, stab and kill for mine.

• 2:02:30Speaker 07

  Wow.

• 2:02:31Speaker 05

  I would shoot, stab and kill.

• 2:02:33Speaker 07

  For his what?

• 2:02:34Speaker 05

  For the ch- child support.

• 2:02:35Speaker 07

  Oh.

• 2:02:36Speaker 05

  He don't wanna pay that money.

• 2:02:37Speaker 07

  He don't wanna pay the child support.

• 2:02:38Speaker 05

  Yeah, but he was, they was staying in California, you know better than stay in California. Remember that sign right there that said Hollywood?

• 2:02:44Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 2:02:44Speaker 05

  That's been held up by the bones of hoes.

• 2:02:54Speaker 05

  That sign, dude, that's held up by the bones of hoes that have traveled all across America.

• 2:02:59Speaker 07

  Oh my god.

• 2:03:00Speaker 05

  To be in Hollywood.

• 2:03:02Speaker 07

  I didn't know that.

• 2:03:02Speaker 05

  To be, to be successful.

• 2:03:05Speaker 07

  I have no idea.

• 2:03:06Speaker 04

  It's crazy how that works.

• 2:03:07Speaker 05

  They traveled from Iowa.

• 2:03:09Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 2:03:09Speaker 05

  Oklahoma.

• 2:03:11Speaker 07

  Cause someone told them they were special.

• 2:03:13Speaker 05

  No, they traveled there.

• 2:03:14Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 2:03:14Speaker 04

  Wow.

• 2:03:15Speaker 05

  To meet someone and, and ran out of gas.

• 2:03:18Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 2:03:19Speaker 05

  To meet someone and they met them.

• 2:03:21Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 2:03:22Speaker 05

  And they just, you know, to support that Hollywood sign, they used, yeah, they used the bones. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 2:03:28Speaker 04

  Wow. I had no idea.

• 2:03:30Speaker 05

  It doesn't always work out. Sometimes you gotta teach hot Pilates.

• 2:03:35Speaker 05

  Yeah, that's the best shit, because if you ain't got nothing else going on, at least be doing some Pilates.

• 2:03:43Speaker 05

  Yeah, but you see how he piped down, you see how he got quiet when I said he didn't last long?

• 2:03:48Speaker 05

  No, no, I'm good.

• 2:03:50Speaker 05

  I'm in a happy relationship. You've been a happy relationship? Yeah. She's not legally in America. No, stop.

• 2:03:56Speaker 05

  He said, he said, I got Trump's number. You going on and keep complaining, y'all? Yo, you try that shit, we gonna make America great.

• 2:04:05Speaker 05

  Bro, I told you this, but the amount of people from Trump's team that asked me to get in contact with you. Bro, the amount of people, they're like, yo, we just need him to come out to many men. Is, is there any, how many people hit you up? Well, they, yeah, I got contacted a few times, but, but I'm, when I didn't, I wasn't able to do it. The, the last time that they was calling because of, I had, already had previous obligations. He was, they was coming to New York. Yeah, to do MSG. Yeah, and, and they had reached out to us.

• 2:04:32Speaker 04

  Well, they went with Tony Hinchcliffe, I think, and that went well, so.

• 2:04:36Speaker 05

  Tony's the comedian who, who performed there.

• 2:04:39Speaker 04

  That was a wild shit.

• 2:04:40Speaker 05

  Shout out Tony, man. He was garbage in the water. Yeah. He's not from New York. He wouldn't understand. He went, wow, I was like, yo. He said shit, I wasn't sure it was okay. I'm finished, I say shit all the time. I'm like, whoa, what the fuck was that? I'm like, yo, maybe I shouldn't not have been there.

• 2:04:58Speaker 05

  Right, like the way he went off, he went off. Yeah. Yeah, he went off. Shout out Tony, man. Everyone gets these jokes, baby. We gotta disrupt things at points. That's.

• 2:05:08Speaker 04

  Now, so, so, when they reach out.

• 2:05:11Speaker 05

  Uh huh.

• 2:05:12Speaker 04

  Well, okay, first of all, when you see him get shot.

• 2:05:14Speaker 05

  Yeah, I'm, oh shit, I didn't know what was going on, but I never seen anybody, he, he, Trump did some other shit. He went down, and they had that picture, did you see like, under the leg? Yeah. That little picture and shit, and then he, they was putting that on the news, and then when he got up, he was like, fight. That's a little shit.

• 2:05:32Speaker 05

  I was like sinking into the couch that I was in at the time, because I was like, this shit there to go, you see the fist right there?

• 2:05:40Mark Gagnon?

  Did you have any PTSD from that?

• 2:05:42Speaker 05

  No, no. That was, because it was happening, it felt like everybody else didn't know that it was happening. Because the people didn't run.

• 2:05:49Speaker 04

  Yeah, they were still cheering, they didn't, in the back.

• 2:05:53Speaker 05

  They stayed there, you know how in a nightclub, something happened and they can not even hear it because the music is playing so loud and then you see everybody run. So when you see nothing, nobody moving, you're like, yo, did that shit just happen?

• 2:06:05Speaker 04

  What does it feel like when you get shot?

• 2:06:07Speaker 05

  Like a piercing.

• 2:06:09Speaker 04

  Really?

• 2:06:09Speaker 05

  It's moving fast, bullets, so it's like getting a big piercing.

• 2:06:12Speaker 04

  Really?

• 2:06:12Mark Gagnon?

  But it burns, right?

• 2:06:13Speaker 05

  Yeah, that's the gunpowder.

• 2:06:16Speaker 04

  Interesting. Okay, so, and then?

• 2:06:19Speaker 05

  That, I don't think that was, injury was big enough for him to.

• 2:06:23Speaker 04

  Feel anything?

• 2:06:24Speaker 05

  Yeah, no.

• 2:06:24Mark Gagnon?

  I don't think people know his story when he got shot.

• 2:06:27Speaker 05

  Yeah, it's like getting a piercing.

• 2:06:29Speaker 04

  But you got shot face.

• 2:06:31Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah.

• 2:06:33Mark Gagnon?

  So he was getting shot, then, correct me if I'm wrong, you're like trying to dodge the bullets.

• 2:06:39Speaker 05

  Yeah, I got shit in the hand.

• 2:06:40Mark Gagnon?

  He's like moving, trying to move away from the guy, point blank shooting at him, then he still had time to get in the car, take his gun out.

• 2:06:49Speaker 05

  No, I was in the car.

• 2:06:50Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, you was in the car.

• 2:06:51Speaker 05

  In the car.

• 2:06:51Mark Gagnon?

  So then he points his gun at the guy, the guy shoots his hand, shoots the gun out of his hand. That's why he likes action movies.

• 2:07:01Speaker 05

  Then you can't do nothing.

• 2:07:03Speaker 04

  Oh, you can't pull the trigger because your whole hand?

• 2:07:04Mark Gagnon?

  But imagine having that wherewithal, somebody shooting at you and you still have the.

• 2:07:09Speaker 05

  Your brain don't stop working, like the.

• 2:07:13Speaker 05

  To the noise.

• 2:07:14Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 2:07:15Speaker 05

  As fast as then you.

• 2:07:17Speaker 04

  Like your survival instincts kick in.

• 2:07:19Mark Gagnon?

  That shit.

• 2:07:19Speaker 05

  Moving around in back seats.

• 2:07:20Speaker 04

  And what a crazy coincidence that that guy is just like, through a few weeks later, like something happened.

• 2:07:24Speaker 05

  Yeah. Happens to people who involve themselves in lifestyles.

• 2:07:28Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's just so insane.

• 2:07:34Speaker 04

  That's scary.

• 2:07:37Speaker 05

  If I say, hey, did it piss you off today? I'm bad.

• 2:07:42Speaker 04

  I was scared.

• 2:07:46Speaker 05

  It's all on YouTube.

• 2:07:49Speaker 05

  He ain't saying nothing that everybody didn't say.

• 2:07:51Speaker 04

  Wow. It's crazy out here in these streets, man. So that was happening in Queens that whole time.

• 2:07:57Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah.

• 2:07:57Speaker 04

  I was just in Manhattan, bro. We were going to like a youth basketball leagues and stuff like that.

• 2:08:05Speaker 05

  You know, that is part of the, you know, like the more extreme part of the experience.

• 2:08:11Speaker 04

  Was that the first time you'd ever been shot at?

• 2:08:12Speaker 05

  No, no, it was the first time it hit like that.

• 2:08:16Speaker 04

  Yeah. And do you think it changed your trajectory? Like, would you still be the same 50 Cent you are today if you didn't go through that?

• 2:08:21Speaker 05

  No.

• 2:08:22Speaker 04

  Wait, what changed?

• 2:08:23Speaker 05

  Well, after following it, not changing.

• 2:08:27Speaker 04

  But like psychologically, what changed in you?

• 2:08:29Speaker 05

  Oh, well, there's no, what's his name? You didn't have to, I didn't even know how it works without responding to it.

• 2:08:36Speaker 05

  But when I, when I come back to make the music, the, um, the themes are real.

• 2:08:45Speaker 05

  Get rich or die trying. They're looking like I could die before the record even comes out because of the threat level. The things that's going on at the same time. And then you going, this is a good time to change the narrative, right? You just got shot nine times. You gotta be saying the same shit you were saying. But saying the same thing is.

• 2:09:01Speaker 04

  Made it true, made it authentic and true. Do you have to like immediately afterward, are you going, okay, I gotta show strength right now? Like in who you are, are you doing the fight, fight, fight?

• 2:09:13Speaker 05

  I wasn't even thinking that, you know, look, I was, I was more on

• 2:09:18Speaker 05

  not allowing them to see me hurt.

• 2:09:22Speaker 05

  You know what I mean? So I was like, even A-ing them, I wouldn't let them come into the hospital.

• 2:09:26Speaker 04

  Who, even who?

• 2:09:27Speaker 05

  Yeah, yo, Tony.

• 2:09:28Speaker 04

  So you didn't let Tony come to the hospital?

• 2:09:31Speaker 05

  Tell him I'm good, I'm, I'm be all right. I get on the phone, yo, you all right? Yeah, because I had to brace myself, shot in the face. So I'm like, yo.

• 2:09:38Speaker 04

  Kanye tried to copy your whole shit.

• 2:09:39Speaker 05

  Yeah, he too, wire. That was only a car accident.

• 2:09:43Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, keep your eyes open.

• 2:09:46Mark Gagnon?

  You got to shut the fuck up, bro.

• 2:09:50Speaker 05

  It's not the same, it's not the same.

• 2:09:51Mark Gagnon?

  Yes.

• 2:09:51Speaker 05

  No, but it is, it's actually more dangerous. The car is more dangerous than fucking.

• 2:09:56Speaker 04

  I'll take my chances with the car, bro.

• 2:09:58Speaker 07

  Technically speaking.

• 2:09:59Speaker 04

  You got shot.

• 2:09:59Speaker 05

  Yes, it is.

• 2:10:00Speaker 04

  Yeah. Wait, but, but, but stay on it. So, so you even, that's interesting. You're even showing strength to your team. You're telling them, you don't want them to see you wicked at all.

• 2:10:07Speaker 05

  Right, cuz they was, they would always follow me. They always listen to me. So if I tell you I'm all right, but then you look and you see I'm shot, my head shot, I'm shot in the face, like, shut up, shit, like, you know, you're not. You can tell me you all right when you got a hole in your face and I'm just like, nah, you got a hole in your face. All right, so I'd rather them not see me like that.

• 2:10:28Speaker 04

  This is the human instinct thing that I'm always so surprised by. It's like, usually someone in that position want to be surrounded by the people they love and want to protect them. And you're constantly in leadership mode. You are constantly leading.

• 2:10:41Speaker 05

  Yeah, at that point, cuz they had, they, they've always been under me. Like, before, we was on the corner. That's why he does, it seems like he doesn't stop talking about me to a degree like, yeah, cuz he'll look and go, he said that was gonna happen and it happened. But he's saying that about.

• 2:10:57Speaker 04

  Everything.

• 2:10:58Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 2:10:59Speaker 04

  That's.

• 2:11:00Speaker 05

  About, you know what I mean? And he's, so he's like, yo, let me see what you, yo, listen, and let me, better listen when he says shit cuz shit be happening.

• 2:11:07Speaker 04

  Yo, there was a time, you, first of all, you guys are hilarious together. When we were, when we were leaving Dre's, like, the meme came to life. We leaving Dre's and then one point, I think you go, he was saying some shit and then you popped up, you're like, why you saying fuck me for? We literally watched it. It come to existence.

• 2:11:30Speaker 05

  Now, you say, he'll say anything out of his mouth. Yeah, cuz we've been around each other so long, he's just like, whatever, he call shit, eh, oh, wars and shit like that, he calls it. And go, yo, you know why? Because he was saying this about you. And I'm like, but I didn't tell you to do that.

• 2:11:49Speaker 04

  Right, what the fuck did you just slap this man's kid for? Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, let's go. Wild shit that happened. And I'm like, yo, bro.

• 2:11:57Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, that was crazy. That was a crazy one.

• 2:11:59Speaker 04

  Wait, what was, what, what happened?

• 2:12:01Mark Gagnon?

  I don't, I'll let him talk about it.

• 2:12:03Speaker 05

  Oh, you talked about the house, Peter, fine.

• 2:12:07Speaker 05

  Talk about the shit I didn't do.

• 2:12:18Mark Gagnon?

  No, at this time, I'm afraid of Yeo.

• 2:12:21Mark Gagnon?

  Still put that work in.

• 2:12:23Speaker 05

  Yeah, man, he talking about, uh.

• 2:12:25Mark Gagnon?

  Jimmy Henchman, yeah. So he had beef with Jimmy Henchman and then they were out. I think he was at Ruckus Park or something like that.

• 2:12:31Speaker 05

  They had, they, it started at Apollo.

• 2:12:34Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, it started at the Apollo. Oh, okay. And they see his kid outside.

• 2:12:37Speaker 04

  Oh, no.

• 2:12:38Mark Gagnon?

  Somehow, apparently Jimmy Henchman's kid got smacked.

• 2:12:42Speaker 04

  How old's the child?

• 2:12:43Speaker 05

  I think it was like seven, sixteen, seventeen.

• 2:12:46Mark Gagnon?

  You can slap that in sixteen, seventeen.

• 2:12:49Speaker 05

  With a hoodie on.

• 2:12:49Speaker 04

  Yeah, like, you see him with a hoodie?

• 2:12:54Speaker 05

  You look like you with the shit, man.

• 2:13:00Speaker 04

  He can't help himself, bro. He can't. He literally cannot help himself.

• 2:13:03Speaker 05

  I don't have a problem with these guys, bro. Like, this is one of the things that I become involved in all of this shit. I'm not there, man. I'm in Connecticut. You know, Jessica Jetticus said on the record, right?

• 2:13:17Speaker 05

  I'm in Connecticut, bro. I get involved in this shit. They said I was in the truck.

• 2:13:22Speaker 04

  Yo, isn't it hard for everybody to love you? Everybody loves you now, and even when you beef with people, if they come back, they're kind of corny. This is not the position you're used to.

• 2:13:35Speaker 05

  No.

• 2:13:35Mark Gagnon?

  It's love and fear, though. I think people are afraid of them, too. It's like love and fear.

• 2:13:41Speaker 04

  I think it's a different, the fear used to be like violence and now it's public humiliation. I think more people are afraid that you'll get on their ass, no ditty.

• 2:13:50Speaker 05

  I don't want people, like, I don't want, I don't get anything out of them feeling like I'll be violent.

• 2:13:56Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't think you'll be violent.

• 2:13:57Speaker 05

  That's not the goal. For me, tough is not the goal. That was that. I, I look at the, the what's his name? The social part is me, like, just having a voice.

• 2:14:09Speaker 04

  Got it.

• 2:14:09Speaker 05

  The audience, they look and I'll say things and go, oh. And, and they may be like, I wouldn't say that about, like, that person.

• 2:14:18Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 2:14:19Speaker 05

  But who I see that person as, like, they don't mean enough for me to not say it. Do you understand? Like I did, because I don't take myself so serious.

• 2:14:28Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:14:29Speaker 05

  So I definitely don't take them that serious.

• 2:14:31Speaker 04

  Gotcha.

• 2:14:31Speaker 05

  You know, I'm looking going, come on, bro. You had a couple of records, man. Fuck out of there with that shit. Like, you know. That shit matters on a day when we're thinking about the records.

• 2:14:42Speaker 04

  Yeah, but outside of that.

• 2:14:43Speaker 05

  Yeah, outside of that, it doesn't matter.

• 2:14:45Speaker 04

  There is a, you're so funny. There's a, the second the shit happened with Jay, and I knew it too. I went to your page, I was like, I know he gonna do something. And you were promoting a show and you were like, the caption of the picture was, I don't know why y'all here, but I got my residency coming.

• 2:15:07Speaker 05

  No, wait, wait, wait. I'm going, wait, I'm going, wait. How did you wait for me to do it? And they'll be angry with me when I do it.

• 2:15:15Speaker 05

  Later, when you go, oh, okay. I'm the people that were there immediately. I'm talking about the shit jumped to 400 responses as soon as I could refresh it. And I go 400 responses and I look and they go, yeah, for don't they wait till it's your turn? This is not. And I'm like, well, goddamn, you just want everybody to go down on that fucking boat, don't you? Good thing I was never in none of these parties. Right, you know, I'm like, this is not an issue for me. Hey, but you see that, you get, you people, they enjoy that shit. Like, I think anything that they think is is negative about it, I don't delete people. I don't block people.

• 2:15:47Speaker 04

  Oh, really?

• 2:15:48Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, you gotta keep them around.

• 2:15:49Speaker 05

  Yeah, because they changed their mind. I don't need you to be deleted. When you change your mind. You change your mind, you gonna roll with the shit that's going on.

• 2:15:57Mark Gagnon?

  Now, what about like people, comments that are just like, I'm just trying to ruin your day. I'm just coming here with negative shit. You don't block that?

• 2:16:05Speaker 05

  It can't, it can't matter. But you have to not, look. If it matters enough for you to block them, it means they will affect them.

• 2:16:12Speaker 04

  Yeah, don't let them affect you. Don't let them.

• 2:16:15Mark Gagnon?

  I'm just saying it's like.

• 2:16:16Speaker 07

  They take that as a win.

• 2:16:17Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 2:16:18Speaker 04

  That's their dub. They want you to block them.

• 2:16:20Mark Gagnon?

  Keep that as a win, but I'm serving my peace of mind. It's like, I don't, if you're not coming here, if it's not constructive criticism, then it's like.

• 2:16:27Speaker 05

  Yeah, you're saying that it's poison and you just don't want to.

• 2:16:29Mark Gagnon?

  Like, what the fuck?

• 2:16:30Speaker 04

  That's fair too, you can do it. But the, I mean, the ultimate W is they keep on commenting nonstop and you just laugh.

• 2:16:36Speaker 05

  I know that people think that way about me though. I know that that energy is there.

• 2:16:41Mark Gagnon?

  That's true, because you do give, like you kind of poke the bear a little bit.

• 2:16:47Speaker 05

  I don't care. Look, if you can't, if it's not gonna.

• 2:16:49Mark Gagnon?

  I'm not like asking for that energy.

• 2:16:51Speaker 05

  See, because you don't feel that.

• 2:16:52Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 2:16:53Speaker 05

  Because the, when you're in a public space, you feel it all the time.

• 2:16:56Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 2:16:56Speaker 05

  So there's a, because everyone has a right to a public opinion.

• 2:17:00Mark Gagnon?

  Of course.

• 2:17:00Speaker 05

  So when they do that, you see that, you go, okay, cool. And then, look, look, if someone had a negative energy towards you or felt a certain way, you go, why you feel that way about me? Like, because what did I do to make you feel like that?

• 2:17:14Mark Gagnon?

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:17:15Speaker 05

  You can feel that. Me, if they feel negative, it's just how they feel today.

• 2:17:21Speaker 05

  I'm here to entertain for entertainment purposes. If it entertains them to be upset, they can be upset. If they want to be angry, they can be angry. And then they'll be entertained by it. And then later they'll see something that's effective that comes from me that makes them go, ah, maybe he was right.

• 2:17:38Mark Gagnon?

  That's a good joke, bro. Yeah.

• 2:17:40Speaker 05

  Yeah. So you know, you can't really, when you're in a public space, look, look, this relationship, we was talking about relationships, bro. But imagine you invite someone in, right? Because you date someone when you're in a public space? And you go out with the person, they see you with the person. What you just did is invite that general public to your house.

• 2:17:56Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 2:17:56Speaker 05

  And they can have a good time, they get dinner, drinks, everything. And then when time for you, you let them go home. Okay, guys, go home. They go, fuck you, we're not going home.

• 2:18:03Mark Gagnon?

  Mm. We're staying in your business.

• 2:18:04Speaker 05

  You shouldn't have invited us there.

• 2:18:06Mark Gagnon?

  Ah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 2:18:08Speaker 05

  And they stay there and they make up all kind of shit, everything. But you've given them the right to do that when you brought this person into the public.

• 2:18:15Mark Gagnon?

  Got it. This motherfucker is a joker. He's a joker and Diddy was just dressing up as him that Halloween.

• 2:18:22Speaker 05

  That's fucked up. That is really fucked up. And he just said it, I'm like.

• 2:18:28Speaker 07

  No, Diddy was the diddler.

• 2:18:31Speaker 05

  Will you, will you visit Diddy in jail?

• 2:18:33Mark Gagnon?

  No, I wouldn't, I wouldn't go to, do you think?

• 2:18:36Speaker 05

  This might be too early.

• 2:18:38Speaker 04

  No, no, once he's.

• 2:18:39Speaker 05

  It might be too early.

• 2:18:42Speaker 04

  He's not even saying no, he's not even just saying. But I'm saying, once he gets like locked up, locked up, like once he gets sentenced, will you go out to the prison and will you visit him just for funsies?

• 2:18:52Speaker 05

  I don't know, you know, look, cause right now he can feel like I'm his enemy.

• 2:18:57Speaker 04

  Wait, right now, wait, what?

• 2:18:58Speaker 05

  Why would, why would he feel that way? I mean, I'm not his enemy, the federal government is.

• 2:19:03Mark Gagnon?

  Ah. Okay, but I mean, he could have multiple enemies and he could.

• 2:19:06Speaker 05

  But I'm not his enemy.

• 2:19:07Speaker 04

  You could be on his opus. I'm not why. Yeah, yeah, he's not in the position because right now he gotta fight something else. Yeah, that's true.

• 2:19:15Mark Gagnon?

  Okay.

• 2:19:15Speaker 05

  The folk.

• 2:19:17Speaker 05

  The lens a little.

• 2:19:20Mark Gagnon?

  If you have such a big platform and I'm going through this horrible thing and then you just keep highlighting this horrible thing that I'm going through.

• 2:19:26Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:19:27Mark Gagnon?

  I'm looking at you as my enemy at the same time.

• 2:19:29Speaker 05

  Am I highlighting this horrible thing that you're going through that everyone else is not going through in this person at the same time?

• 2:19:33Speaker 04

  It's not like everybody doesn't know. We all do the same.

• 2:19:35Mark Gagnon?

  We all don't have a.

• 2:19:37Speaker 04

  He's putting, he's putting the gas.

• 2:19:38Speaker 05

  So what about TMZ, are they ops?

• 2:19:40Mark Gagnon?

  Yes.

• 2:19:40Speaker 05

  TMZ is op?

• 2:19:41Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 2:19:42Speaker 04

  Unless they, unless they promoting something good you do and then they, they're the homies. Also, how, you've been talking about it.

• 2:19:47Mark Gagnon?

  Often it's TMZ reporting good shit.

• 2:19:49Speaker 04

  Before this, you know what I mean?

• 2:19:50Speaker 05

  Like, come on, man, fuck these people. Fuck what they thinking, you understand what I'm doing?

• 2:19:56Speaker 04

  I get it, but if they think.

• 2:19:57Speaker 05

  And they gonna pay me for this shit, man, big money.

• 2:19:59Speaker 04

  That's right.

• 2:20:00Mark Gagnon?

  No, I love this shit.

• 2:20:01Speaker 04

  Hold on.

• 2:20:01Mark Gagnon?

  We here for that.

• 2:20:03Speaker 05

  The lens to where you, to where you see it, look, they said the downfall of Diddy and he hadn't had a downfall. He wasn't even convicted of anything.

• 2:20:12Speaker 04

  Oh, that's right, he said a sense of proven guilty.

• 2:20:15Speaker 05

  The, the, the docs that have already gone out have already done things to damage. The public opinion. There's responsibility to have the doc.

• 2:20:25Mark Gagnon?

  You're working on, what, what?

• 2:20:26Speaker 05

  It has a responsibility, I, I have a responsibility to make it as fair, as true, as possible. Right? And I'm not the director of the doc.

• 2:20:36Speaker 04

  You gotta have.

• 2:20:37Speaker 05

  I just talked to them about directing it the right way, I'm executive producing the project. Meaning I could give people that would not get on camera to get on camera to do it. Because it's 50 calling instead of it being this.

• 2:20:48Speaker 04

  You know, it'd be funny if you were like, I think he buttfucked all those guys consensually.

• 2:20:54Speaker 05

  No, no, I can make the whole thing about. It was not.

• 2:20:57Speaker 07

  He did it for love.

• 2:20:58Speaker 05

  No.

• 2:20:58Speaker 07

  He loves guys.

• 2:20:59Speaker 05

  That's what you're gonna have to argue. Cause the only thing, like, look, with all these accusations, you think he has a ton of things that he's facing in, in the criminal situation.

• 2:21:07Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 2:21:08Speaker 05

  It's not all of that.

• 2:21:09Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 2:21:10Speaker 05

  Until they have a superseding indictment or bring new charges. This shit is about Cassie and about the, the Lil Rod.

• 2:21:18Speaker 07

  Who's Lil Rod?

• 2:21:19Speaker 05

  That's the, the one, uh, the producer.

• 2:21:21Mark Gagnon?

  He's the producer, he cleaned up.

• 2:21:22Speaker 07

  It's another allegation.

• 2:21:23Speaker 05

  Yeah, but those, between that, that's what he's actually dealing with, he's not dealing with. You hear so much shit that it feels like, forget about it.

• 2:21:31Speaker 07

  Nothing wrong with having some baby oil.

• 2:21:33Speaker 05

  Right.

• 2:21:33Speaker 07

  You know what I mean?

• 2:21:34Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:21:34Speaker 07

  Thousand bottles.

• 2:21:35Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:21:36Speaker 07

  It's a little something wrong with that.

• 2:21:37Mark Gagnon?

  It's a lot of bottles.

• 2:21:38Speaker 07

  It's a little excessive. Nothing wrong with playing with it, you know what I mean? As long as it's consensual.

• 2:21:41Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:21:41Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 2:21:42Speaker 05

  How many people have different habits?

• 2:21:44Speaker 07

  Yeah. Nothing wrong with that. As long as it's consensual.

• 2:21:47Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:21:47Speaker 07

  But if you spike the baby oil.

• 2:21:49Speaker 05

  My experience with baby oil is you can't use a lot of it, like, that much.

• 2:21:54Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 2:21:54Speaker 05

  You know, like, you know, it's, it's not.

• 2:21:56Speaker 07

  What if you're trying to get into a place that's really small?

• 2:21:59Speaker 05

  But look what I'm saying. I'm saying to you, my whole body is oily, like, I'm like a fucking. Oh, you slick, and we only use a quarter of it.

• 2:22:09Speaker 07

  A quarter of the bottle.

• 2:22:10Speaker 05

  Your whole body shiny.

• 2:22:11Speaker 07

  A little goes a long way with baby oil.

• 2:22:13Speaker 05

  Yes. So what the fuck is the deal, bro? Why you need a thousand bottles of it? I mean, come on.

• 2:22:20Speaker 07

  Well, it's just cheaper if you buy in bulk, right? Like, I think that's what businesses are.

• 2:22:24Speaker 05

  Yeah, it's like, nobody ever ran out of Vaseline. Like, I don't think I ever bought a Vaseline ten again.

• 2:22:29Speaker 07

  Yeah, yeah.

• 2:22:30Speaker 05

  The question is, where do they get these drugs from? Like, where the fuck does this stuff come from? I don't see this stuff, like, at the local drugstore when you go there. You have to go find a fucking elephant tranquilizer to give someone. That, that, you know what I mean? Like, you're not going.

• 2:22:41Speaker 07

  Allegedly.

• 2:22:42Speaker 05

  Allegedly.

• 2:22:43Speaker 07

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 2:22:44Speaker 05

  I'm just saying, how often do you have it consistently?

• 2:22:48Mark Gagnon?

  For the party, every time there's a party? There was an elephant tranquilizer. All kind of shit, bro. Maybe it was an Indian wedding. An Indian wedding? Yeah, maybe having elephants. They bring elephants to the wedding, man.

• 2:22:57Speaker 07

  We don't tranquilize it. Ride that motherfucker around a little bit.

• 2:23:00Mark Gagnon?

  End of the wedding, you.

• 2:23:02Speaker 04

  Guys, quick announcement, there's a comedian named Matthew Broussard, who is absolutely hilarious, and he just put out his first YouTube special. It's on YouTube right now, go watch it, go blow it up, okay? Leave amazing comments, let's make this shit explode, I love Matthew, he's amazing. And the special is called Hyperbolic, okay? I'll be posting a clip from it, I'll put a link in my Instagram or whatever. But I want you guys to go watch it, he's very fucking funny, great joke writer. And I think you guys are gonna really like it, he's also a great dude, okay? So go support Flagrant, full support, get behind him, and not like, you know.

• 2:23:41Speaker 04

  This is, you know, this is, we're gonna get, we're gonna support him.

• 2:23:45Mark Gagnon?

  Get behind him emotionally.

• 2:23:46Speaker 04

  Emotionally, yes, emotionally, get behind him. But also, yeah, you know what to do. So, future, future for 50 Cent, dominate TV, dominate film. Is there anything else that you've looked at throughout your life that you've wanted to enter that the people don't know about yet?

• 2:24:03Speaker 05

  No, no, like, I'm, um, I think things are changing, like, the technology is changing the way even the film projects are working.

• 2:24:10Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:24:11Speaker 05

  So I'll be a little AI for it.

• 2:24:14Speaker 04

  Are you gonna be, oh, you're gonna lean into the tech side of it?

• 2:24:17Speaker 05

  Yeah, cuz it thinks it'll allow me to do things that you wouldn't have to do practically.

• 2:24:22Speaker 04

  Exactly, you don't have to shoot on this elaborate set.

• 2:24:25Speaker 05

  To do it.

• 2:24:25Speaker 04

  You can do it digitally.

• 2:24:26Speaker 05

  So look at it like, when I get to Shreveport, half of what the editing bay was will be AI technicians and then the other half.

• 2:24:33Speaker 04

  Wow, I mean, the Zora stuff is amazing, you've seen Zora? It's unbelievable.

• 2:24:38Speaker 05

  That's incredible.

• 2:24:39Speaker 04

  Zora is ChatGPT's.

• 2:24:41Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, it's OpenAI's, like, video AI model, it's amazing.

• 2:24:45Speaker 05

  To be able to.

• 2:24:46Speaker 04

  Yeah, you posted something with using Zora recently, I feel.

• 2:24:49Speaker 05

  Yeah, Tyler had, like, hit me, he showed me stuff, cuz they show him, like, demos of things as soon as they come out with something.

• 2:24:56Speaker 04

  Oh, I was talking about the one with Diddy and Jay-Z walking around with the.

• 2:25:00Speaker 05

  Oh, that, that's, that was, that, I think that's apps, that's like a little, little app.

• 2:25:03Speaker 04

  That was AI?

• 2:25:04Mark Gagnon?

  That was AI.

• 2:25:05Speaker 05

  Yeah, you know, I look at it, this shit comes across, it comes across my feed and I'm laughing at it. And then I go, oh, no, no, people will fall out of our post-test. I'm gonna post that.

• 2:25:19Speaker 05

  And I just do it. I just do it and then.

• 2:25:21Mark Gagnon?

  Son, you love this. You love this.

• 2:25:24Speaker 05

  It was funny though. It was done. That one particularly was done well.

• 2:25:28Speaker 04

  Yeah. You like the art of it. You just like that it was.

• 2:25:31Speaker 07

  You're an artist.

• 2:25:31Speaker 05

  I like this shit.

• 2:25:34Speaker 04

  Oh, okay, okay. Before we go, I have to tell you this one thing. There was this story of this Instagram guy in Florida that killed his girl or whatever. That people said I look like.

• 2:25:46Speaker 05

  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 2:25:47Speaker 04

  And you hit me. You're like, yo, we're doing this movie and you're playing, right? I swear God, he DMs me from jail and he goes, I heard you're doing my movie.

• 2:26:01Speaker 05

  He goes, I heard you doing my, this guy right here.

• 2:26:04Speaker 04

  He goes, I heard you doing my movie. I'd like to talk to you about it so that you can, you know, honor the character or whatever.

• 2:26:14Speaker 04

  His name is Aladdin or some shit. What is it? Hold on. What is his name?

• 2:26:19Speaker 05

  Oh, that's. That was the number one, the highest rated docu-series on Peacock.

• 2:26:23Speaker 04

  Oh, really?

• 2:26:24Speaker 07

  Yeah, that one right there with the mustache and goatee. Wow.

• 2:26:28Speaker 05

  Yeah, and he got, he got a lot of crazy performances. So it's a real active piece. So I'm like, yeah, my boy got it.

• 2:26:34Speaker 07

  He's a thespian, dude.

• 2:26:35Speaker 04

  Ali Alubon. Ali, Ali, Ali. Yeah, ask him, ask him what his Instagram. Yeah. Anyway, so we might, we might have to work, but I feel like we should consult him at least.

• 2:26:44Speaker 05

  We got the docu-series side of it's already done and in development on the scripted side. I'll be right back to you with that.

• 2:26:52Speaker 05

  We'll be right back.

• 2:26:53Speaker 04

  Ladies and gentlemen, the goat.

• 2:26:56Mark Gagnon?

  Yep.

• 2:26:56Speaker 04

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