JellyRoll on Eminem’s Greatness, Beyonce’s Country Album & How He Lost 100 lbs

YERRR have to start off the New Year right with country music's newest fitness influencer & number selling artist JellyRoll. He breaks down all the inside baseball of the country music charts, explains how he got Eminem and MGK on one album and has some hilarious behind the scenes stories from SNL and his tour. Find his tickets at JellyRoll615.com 0:00 - start 0:20 - Jelly's Insane NYC Weekend 1:53 - JellyRoll is down 100 pounds! 9:52 - JellyRoll Gives Away TOO Much Money 13:05 - How MGK & Eminem are both are on Jelly's Album 27:30 - Opening Up Concert with Best Song First 36:30 - Jelly and Andrew Having to Pee on Stage 44:00 - Going Number 2 while Performing 58:40 - HEADLINING Stagecoach 2025 1:02:55 - Jelly's SAGE Parenting Advice about Letting Loose 1:19:41 - Young Fame and Riches Didn't Ruin MGK 1:32:45 - Famous People Can't Stop Coming to Jelly Concerts 1:35:10 - Jelly Weighs in on Beyonce's Country Album 1:44:00 - is Country Changing Now that It's so Popular?? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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  What's up, everybody? Welcome to Flagrant. Today is the second coming of a dear, brave, courageous friend of ours who has kind of just absolutely exploded. I mean, he had a weekend in New York where he was not only headlining Madison Square Garden, was not only the musical guest for SNL, he was not only performing for all of Central Park or something. I have not even know what the... That was, that was crazy. He managed, this is what a mensch this guy is, he managed to even make time to come out and see one of my little stand-up shows at the Comedy Cellar. Give it up for our dear friend, Jelly Ripley. What the fuck? The boy's back, baby. I have to, I have to say, like, I felt so, I was telling my wife this, I felt like

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  so guilty because I promised my wife that we would go out, we would go out to this place in the Hamptons that we have. And I was like, I promised we would go, and then your weekend in New York happened. And I was just like, you know, this is the one weekend away. We're away every single weekend on the road and everything's crazy with the special. And I'm like, I feel so bad. I'm gonna miss, I'm like, all right, at least I'll make MSG. Don't make. At least I'll make SNL. I'm feeling the worst fucking friend. And you could have, you could have let me feel okay by just leaving, but instead you're like, I'll just come to you, baby. Like, I'll just come to you. That's one of your, that's one of fucking great guys.

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  What an asshole.

• 2:31Speaker 05

  Yeah, you're a great guy. But you make me feel like a real piece of shit. Tell me, tell me, dog, tell me.

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  You're a piece of shit.

• 2:38Speaker 05

  Why, why?

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  Cause we went to that show and that was awesome. The boys did represent on y'all's behalf.

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  You should have charged them.

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  First, just know, I am a traveling man, bubba.

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  Yes.

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  So y'all know me in real life. Nope, no, I felt that in my soul, man, cause God knows if me and Bunny get a weekend away.

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  Oh.

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  Man, listen, I don't care if Jesus comes to Nashville to perform. You know how much I love the Lord. Man, we finally got us a weekend, baby. Come on, man.

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  God bless. God is everywhere.

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  Dude, he'll come to us. He's been coming to me.

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  He's getting skinny now. How much are you down?

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  Dude, I'm down a hundred.

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  This globe is letting go.

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  This is the first time I've got to say it. I'm down a hundred.

• 3:12Speaker 05

  You're down a hundred. That's awesome. Wow.

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  I'm down a hundred.

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  How's dick came?

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  Man, crazy. It's coming back. Now, listen, me and my wife, listen, me and my wife just had this conversation, cause you know, I've, I've struggled my weight my whole life and she's seen me get really big and seen me lose weight before. So I was like, yo, am I tripping or is like, if not, it was a lot faster last time as far as even losing the weight and getting the dick back? So I was like, am I tripping? And she's like, listen, my wife is the most honest human on earth. She goes, Daddy, you're a little older now. We might have to just get that thing cut off. Cause I'm like a kangaroo with a pouch above my pecker. You know what I'm saying? The way I lose weight, the pouch goes back, the pecker comes out. So I found myself in this juxtaposition where I'm losing the weight here, but the pouch is still pouching. You gotta look, say, yeah, I gotta look exactly.

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  Oh, that's fire.

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  So it's so, no, it's not.

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  No, that's fire, dude. Cause it's warm always.

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  You know what I love about y'all? It's my big, that's how we started. We're talking about my pecker on the biggest podcast.

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  Like a dick pillow.

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  Good to see y'all again.

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  No, I like this. I like this, that you have that nice little area. That's, cause you gotta make her work for it.

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  Listen.

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  How bad you want it?

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  Listen.

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  It's like a hand warmer for a quarterback.

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  This is now on you.

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  No, I feel good though, man. I'm losing weight. I was telling you, that's why we quit talking about it. I'm hitting that moment where you start to hit a stride in it.

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  Okay. In weight loss or just in life?

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  In everything. Like just the clarity, the clarity's coming with the weight loss, the music, the writing.

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  Oh, fire.

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  The tour, the production, but even down to like my discipline of like, I have, I don't want to say I've overcome it, but dude, I haven't ate anything. It's been so long now, I don't even think about it.

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  Really?

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  Like, I just thought about this the other day, that I've been such an obese human and fought food addiction so long, Andrew, that I would walk into rooms and make assessments of what was in there that I could snack on.

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  You're like Jason Bourne.

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  Literally. I'd be like, oh, some super fat shit. I'd be like, yo, there's a can of Snickers. I got a little bowl here. There's a dresser's there. These kind of things. You know how to be having the cans with the little baby Snickers? Don't act like y'all don't see them.

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  I like that. I like that. That's crazy.

• 5:24Speaker 06

  Yeah, and now it's like, man, I'm in the dressing room the other day, and there was a, I don't, I didn't even notice the candy in the dressing room until somebody said, do you want one of these?

• 5:33Speaker 07

  Oh.

• 5:34Speaker 06

  And then I was like, just, I'm not even thinking like that no more. Like, it's just not even, I remember when I caught that with drugs.

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  Yeah.

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  Like, the first time that I found myself in an environment where people were doing cocaine, and I wasn't like, gotta get out of the room. You know what I mean? I was just like, oh yeah, I used to do that. That was all right. You know what I mean?

• 5:51Speaker 07

  And you have, you struggle with drugs. Like you said, my family, we have a lot of addiction, but like I noticed my dad.

• 5:59Speaker 07

  No, that, that's pleasure.

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  That's fun. Addiction's not fun.

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  Right, right. It destroys families.

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  But no, there's, I noticed like my brother stopped drinking, my dad stopped drinking, it went to food. I have a little bit of a food thing too, but they, they're the same. Is it just like an addictive personality? You let go of one for a lesser one, and then eventually hopefully you let go of food for maybe work or whatever, but like, you think that's just a progression of it?

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  I'm not a hundred percent sure because I was fat and doing cocaine at the same time. I was impressive. I could juggle fucking chainsaws with that skill set, you know? But, um, I found myself, I don't know, man. I think it's for me is I'm just starting to do the real work on me. And I'm starting to really start to, you know, come to peace and find myself in situations and.

• 6:40Speaker 07

  What does that, what does that entail, the work on you?

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  Um, as cliche as it sounds, I've done like a lot of like therapy, just a lot of self-help, a lot of what I consume. You know, I didn't realize that. Not just what I was consuming was making me huge and making me feel bad and inflame, but what I was listening to, the kinda stuff, the rabbit holes I found myself going in.

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  Like what?

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  You know, just like darker shit.

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  Comedy podcasts?

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  No, no, no, no. That's the shit that gets me out of it. It's like, I can laugh about this. This would like, you find yourself in just like, you know, dark holes of just what you even listen to or intake or, and then your timeline becomes full of it.

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  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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  Dude.

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  That's the problem with the algorithm.

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  Yeah, it's the Wild West, dude. You accidentally stumble on one dude getting his head blown off in Venezuela and for three days, you're like, I can't touch my phone.

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  Yeah.

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  It's nuts, man. You know what I mean? It's wild. But I get, and those paths for me wasn't always internet rabbit holes.

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  Yeah.

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  These are the cell phones that I struggle with.

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  Yeah, yeah.

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  You know what I mean? When I just get alone in these little rabbit holes. And I'm doing better at those now, man. I'm just thinking better, dude. I'm fucking feeling better.

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  I knew you were doing well, man. I knew that you were making like ridiculous money, cause you brought a guy out to dinner with us and he was, and you said, uh, this is my philanthropy guy.

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  Wow.

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  Are you Mr. Beast? I was like, what? He's like, yeah, he handles all my philanthropy.

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  I like that.

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  That's, that's a different level of money when you're like, other people need some of this money.

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  Yeah, this is the guy that gives it away.

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  Yeah, you got a guy to give away your money.

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  Yeah, we're married for that. We don't need, we don't need people.

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  Yeah, that is the problem.

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  We don't need like a designated.

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  We need a guy to stop her from giving it away to Hermes. She thinks Hermes is a charity. This French motherfucker's making billions.

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  We're 16 minutes in and I'm like, I fucked up. Why do I do this every time?

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  Just to make it like, Beautifully Broken, stream it. Stream it right now. Beautifully Broken.

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  Beautifully Broke, real quick.

• 8:41Speaker 05

  Beautifully Broke for the rest of us. Skyos is masters. Guys, fuck.

• 8:49Speaker 05

  God damn, man. I mean, this guy, and he was like a handsome, he looked like Billy Crudup.

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  You thought he was?

• 8:55Speaker 05

  I thought he was Billy Crudup for the whole time. I was like, oh my god, we got fucking Billy Crudup with us, like.

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  You know, the best part is it was such a Schultz moment. I often forget, you and Tony are my two friends that I forget about this until I'm out with y'all.

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  Oh yeah, I know where you're going.

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  That y'all are knife of men. You know what I'm saying? You're just like a knife of a man. You know what I mean?

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  I think I know what you mean. Go.

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  Right? You get it? Like, the room, this, my dude is quietly observing. He's maybe interjected once or twice, but just enough for Schultz to go, doop doop. So how do you fit into this? What's your story?

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  Cause I didn't get it. I was like, why the fuck is Billy Crudup right here with that sushi and zero bar? The way you are with, the way you are with Tandy, bro, that's how he is with gossip. I needed to make sense of it. And then Jelly goes, oh, that's my philanthropy guy. I'm like, damn, Billy Crudup doing rock right now, bro.

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  Sight, that was the worst way.

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  He's a philanthropy guy?

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  That was the worst way to frame him. His name's Miles Adcox.

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  Yeah.

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  Yes. He does look a lot like him in that one picture. But he actually does a lot of, uh, in the mental health space. He owns a big company called Onsite in Tennessee. There's one in San Diego. It's like a mental wellness retreat. Uh, it's done a lot for me, a lot for me and my wife.

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  If you're depressed in San Diego, kill yourself.

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  Yeah.

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  What the fuck you doing? How you even do that?

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  That's in there all this wine that's on the screen right now.

• 10:14Speaker 05

  Nah, nah, nah, it's over. Nah, it's over. That's in there. How you find a way to be depressed in San Diego? How you find that picture? You know what I mean? Put that shit in Anchorage or something.

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  This is already a good point.

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  Let's fucking go. It was going so well for Jelly, man. Completely crossed over. It was going so good.

• 10:37Speaker 06

  I'm glad I did this after Saturday Night Live. Never bring it to that. My publicist is fired me tomorrow. You should have learned from the music video last time.

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  Every time we hang out, it's just a little dip, just a little dip. But then it goes even higher. It goes down to go up.

• 10:54Speaker 06

  It's how it worked. That's the asshole army, babe.

• 10:58Speaker 05

  All right, we gotta get Billy Crow up off the street.

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  Yeah, I keep looking at it like, ah, it's scaring me. What did he, well, I don't even remember what he was in. No, but he, but he, I came in and I was like, look, man, we give, we do give away a lot of money.

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  Yeah.

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  And I was like, I do need somebody to help me. I don't have, I can't, man, I feel so bougie saying this.

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  No, cuz.

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  But y'all will relate, cuz this is just real life. This is how I would talk if we went on a pod. I just have too much incoming to give anything the proper time it deserves almost. You know what I mean? Like in any major decision.

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  Yeah.

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  But when I know that, I feel like it's been on my heart that I need to.

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  Give back.

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  So he's so cool. He's got such a big infrastructure for his other business. He'll just put his people on it. Like, hey, you know, we all, you know, go find, this is what he wants to do. He wants to do this amount of soup kitchens, this amount of juvenile facilities. And now it's caused a chain reaction where when I go to venues now, you know how venues give us our gifts when we play these arenas? You've been doing them longer than me. We get gifts. They give you jerseys and a box and all kind of stuff. Everyone tries to give you something cooler in the last arena. It's the coolest shit ever. But now they'll always all donate a check to a charity in that city in like honor of what they know I stand for.

• 11:58Speaker 05

  But you still get the jersey, right?

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  Yeah, I'll still get the jersey.

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  Don't give it to them kids.

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  Yo, the boss of Celtic let me hold the thing.

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  It was crazy, man.

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  They got like eighteen of them.

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  You know what's crazy? I stood over and took pictures for like three minutes before they were like, you can touch it. And I was like, I wish y'all had, I'd have been finger fucking this shit all three minutes. Yeah, it was crazy. Yeah, so now it's become a thing where, you know, so, yeah, I have a guy that really, he's a great guy, man. So who else with that? Cuz we try to do a lot, man. We try to, I wanna help as many people.

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  I mean, you're a great guy. You're the great connector, I've realized, because you, you have this song, oh, that was it. You also did Fallon. We were watching Fallon that night. I can't believe I left out one of the things that was part of that weekend as well. So you and MGK do Fallon. MGK is hanging out with you. Also, great guy.

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  Great guy. That's why I'm bringing, that's why.

• 12:47Speaker 05

  Great guy. It was funny. We had this moment where he was like, yeah, I don't understand. Why don't people think that I'm like a nice guy sometimes? And I'm like, well, let's look at the outfits a little. And I remember he like looked at somebody. He was like, okay, I get that one. He was wearing like a pink furry shirt. He's like, yeah, that one I get. He's like, I like wearing stupid shit, but that was a little far.

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  No, it was the best cuz he'd go, I stand on that one, but yeah, that one was horrible. It's so funny to watch you and him at that moment.

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  No, he was a great dude. And that is what often happens, I think, in this business is that you might have a perception of people and then you get to a point where you start meeting them and you're like, a lot of times surprised at them being like really nice people and like sweet people.

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  All right, Cucks, let's do some dates. January 9th through 11th. I don't know why they gave me those dates, to be honest with you, now that I think about it. Size Litters in Tampa, I feel a little way about that, I'm gonna be honest. January 23rd to 25th Sacramento, those tickets will sell out, I promise you. They sold out two years ago and I wasn't even really selling tickets back then. January 31st through February 1st, West Des Moines, Iowa. Again, I cannot believe there's an East Des Moines, but West Des Moines, Iowa, I'm gonna be at the Funny Bone. February 21st and 22nd, I'm gonna be in Brea, California, you know you guys love me. February 28th through March 1st, I'm gonna be in Nashville, Tennessee. We got more dates coming. I think I'm gonna be in San Diego one of those times as well. Either way, guys, come through. Love y'all. Akashsing.com for tickets. Thank you so fucking much, this year was awesome.

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  Sold out, I think, shows for six months straight. This weekend, I had the first show, I didn't sell out. But still such a fucking awesome year. Love you guys, thank you so much. Let's get back to the show.

• 14:17Speaker 05

  The interesting thing about that is, you're with MGK. You have a song with MGK. You also have a song with Eminem.

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  Yeah.

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  These guys are mortal enemies.

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  Yeah.

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  And somehow, you are so talented that you are positioned in between both of them and they're like, "I still wanna work with Jelly Roll."

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  Yeah.

• 14:34Speaker 05

  How do you manage that?

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  Man, the first thing is honesty.

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  Okay.

• 14:38Speaker 06

  Right, you gotta come into both parties honest.

• 14:41Speaker 05

  How do you talk to M?

• 14:42Speaker 06

  Well, so Paul is, and I always bring up Paul in interviews because I feel like he never gets brought up enough.

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  Paul Rosenberg, Eminem's.

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  Paul Rosenberg has been Eminem's manager since Eminem's had a manager. Lifelong Detroit homie kinda shit, like really cool inception story. Cool story about Eminem is his, I believe his publicist, his assistant, who kinda runs the record label, I don't wanna call her assistant because she's so much more.

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  Sure.

• 15:08Speaker 06

  But he's had like the same four people around him for his entire career.

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  Wow.

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  Entire career.

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  Amazing.

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  So you don't really talk to, you know, he's the wizard, man. He's the biggest selling artist of our generation. He sold more records than Elvis. You know what I mean? I mean, it's insane when you think about how big, you know, you don't, you don't really get to see the wizard a lot. Yeah. But I've seen the wizard now and hung out with him and he's a fucking great guy. Okay. You know what I mean? He's really down to earth. He's super honest and he's very intentional with his words. And we, I mean, we hung out on video set for 12 hours. Wow. Just like dicking around. To show you his personality, he walks in my green room going, somebody save me. I need some Gillette. He said, we can get you a deal there. And this fucking funny guy. First interaction you have. No, no, no. The first one we had was when we were singing. I'll tell you that story too, but just let me praise Paul for two more minutes. Okay. He deserves it.

• 15:59Speaker 06

  Paul has always been trying to get me an M together. Like every time I've seen Paul, he's like, if Marshall don't understand anybody else, he's gonna get you. When he gets you, he's gonna get you. And he's telling me this for like, since I met him when he was working with Yellow Wolf a decade ago. Oh, wow. You know what I mean? So like Paul has been that champion for me the whole way. So Paul calls and he's like, send me the Save Me record. And I'm like, y'all mind if I tell this story first? Cause it's hard to get it on. Please. Cause I don't think I've told this one like his. So Paul calls and he's like, send the stems to the Save Me record. He calls John Manili, my manager. Now, keep in mind, John Manili managed Jay for a while. So they've already worked. They have a real, they're friends for real for 30 years now. They've been in the business together for 25 years.

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  So he hits, he hits John Manili's like, yo, send over Save Me. I think Marshall wants to fuck with it. And that's all he said. So you know me, I'm like, you know how rap works? I'm like, I'm fixing to get an Eminem remix. Like, he's just gonna drop a verse in my lap one day. Like, I don't know when and I don't care. Whenever it comes, just thank you, God, you know? And I had already told Kells that story back then. And Kells is a real friend. You know, where Kells is just like, yo, that's huge. Keep me posted. You know what I'm saying? Like he's cheering for me like at heart. His heart is like, you know what I mean? Like yo, man, that's I can't. You don't have a problem. Kells being MGK. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sorry, Kells being MGK. He's like, yo, you don't have a problem. So this is like, I probably shouldn't town stamp it too much, but this is 18 months ago. Oh, wow.

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  Yeah, so like, I so I get to the point, I don't think it's coming. Yeah. I'm kind of just like, ah, it didn't happen. It's whatever, you know, it works. And then I get the call. It's like, yo, what's going on the record? It's closing the record. I'm like, what? Second single, they want to shoot a video. Now, keep in mind, me and Kells are, we hung out at the Grammys. We had both lost and we ended up on what we call the loser tour that night. We went to all these like weird, crazy like Illuminati parties. It felt like it was fucking weird, dude. And we went to like three or four, like it was no, no, no, no baby old bashes. But I, I, I went in, we went to all these weird parties and he had played me the idea for Lonely Road that night.

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  So this is, you know, three, four months after me and Kells have already worked on two or three records together. We're hanging out every day. I'm in LA a bunch. I don't have a friend out there. I only know him. Yeah. It's like, still, you talk about when I pull up on you, bubba, you're my only friend here. What do you mean I'm gonna pull up on you? I don't know nobody.

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  You're my only friend. Well, that makes me feel less special.

• 18:29Speaker 06

  I'm like, I love you. I'm looking for my bubba. You know what I'm saying? So me and, me and him are hanging every day and I'm like, yo, this, this, uh, this Eminem thing's real. I was like, it's fixing to come out and they want, they, they want to do all this. Now, we're already in there. Now, on the other side, we're, John's having to do straight business with Paul. Like, hey, Paul, you know, Kells and Jelly have known each other for 15 years on and off. They were beefing. Jelly dissed him. I was a hater back then. It's a whole fun, other fun story. Yeah. It's like, but they, you know, they're buddies and, and here's where Paul's a good dude too. Paul's like, yo, man, we love Jelly, man. Appreciate, appreciate you telling us. Yeah. Never got brought up. Wow. My heart is always to bring them together one day. Cause I see so much more of them in each other than they know. Yeah.

• 19:11Speaker 06

  You know what I mean? Now, I hadn't really brought it up to Marshall yet, cause I'm just still just kind of glad that I'm still in that circumference to be able to have them conversations. But I do see like, there's so much more in them than not. But like, I also gave Kell some perspective too. It's like, we all grew up watching Eminem take over the game early.

• 19:28Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 19:28Speaker 06

  If you got mentioned in an Eminem song, it was like getting mentioned in a comedy special.

• 19:32Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 19:33Speaker 06

  You were on fucking fire.

• 19:34Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 19:34Speaker 06

  You couldn't be hotter if you got mentioned in an Eminem special or an HBO special.

• 19:39Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 19:39Speaker 06

  You know what I'm saying? An Eminem song or an HBO special is what you wanted your name to be brought down.

• 19:43Speaker 05

  I also think that that beef between MGK and Eminem, like that verse from MGK was, I think, the most-

• 19:51Speaker 07

  It was underrated, actually.

• 19:52Speaker 05

  I thought it was rated. Like, I think most people looked at that and they were like, whoa, this was way better than I thought. And then I think Eminem's verse, I don't think people thought that he absolutely knocked him out the park. Like, I thought that they, the people, the reaction to it was, this is more competitive than we thought it was gonna be. So I think that MGK's respect went up.

• 20:12Speaker 07

  Well, what's interesting is, over time, it's changed. And the moment, I remember that being the response. And now, when people look back on it, they're like, oh, Eminem ended MGK's rap career. Because MGK transitioned into other stuff, and so I think the narrative got written, rewritten that way. But I remember in the moment, people being like, yo, I don't think MGK necessarily got destroyed. But, yeah.

• 20:30Speaker 06

  Only thing I'll say to touch on this, because I'm on a slippery slope.

• 20:33Speaker 05

  Yeah. Just nod, just nod.

• 20:36Speaker 06

  Is, everything Andrew just said right now, I want the flagrant listeners to know, he said to MGK, I watched y'all have this same conversation together, which I think's super cool.

• 20:45Speaker 05

  But-

• 20:46Speaker 06

  Uh, but here's how I feel. Look, man, they're gonna get together one day eventually. It's inevitable, the world's a circle. You know what I mean? And I think that they're gonna find each other's heart more than they don't. And if they never do connect that way, I think that it did more for both of them than it did to hurt either one of them.

• 21:01Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 21:01Speaker 06

  Brother, brother, either party ever fully acknowledged that. What MGK did after that, I don't think had anything to do with the beef as much as his heart, and what his spirit was, because he technically dropped, I think, Hotel Diablo. Was the project right after the MV, don't quote me. But it was the two, it was the mainstream sellout and it was the, um, tickets to my downfall that changed.

• 21:22Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 21:23Speaker 06

  We're talking about a couple of the biggest out, they'll go down as the biggest albums of this generation in pop, in, in pop punk and punk rock and maybe in rock and roll, like new music from new recording artists in 10 years of rock music. I think those albums will be the biggest selling.

• 21:39Speaker 05

  Hmm. So that's the thing that like.

• 21:41Speaker 06

  Let that one sit.

• 21:41Speaker 05

  Yeah. No, I told him this shit too. Like I, what I saw is him as a rapper, knew him as a rapper. Then I saw him become an arena act rock star.

• 21:52Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 21:53Speaker 05

  And I knew that I was getting old because I was like, what is happening? What happened? Did you feel that way as well?

• 22:00Speaker 06

  I didn't know when the switch happened.

• 22:02Speaker 05

  But he went to arenas.

• 22:04Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 22:04Speaker 05

  And so something must've been resonating with the rock music on a different level than rap. I also think it's hard to be like an arena rap star. Like how many arena rap acts are there?

• 22:16Speaker 06

  You know, we were talking about this before and let's.

• 22:18Speaker 05

  It's, it's like stadium.

• 22:20Speaker 06

  Yeah, Eminem's stadium for sure. Eminem's stadium.

• 22:22Speaker 05

  But like arenas around like Drake.

• 22:24Speaker 06

  Hold on, let's go step deeper. Eminem's a plus one at most stadiums.

• 22:27Speaker 05

  So he can do two stadium shows.

• 22:30Speaker 06

  He's a plus one at most stadiums in America.

• 22:33Speaker 05

  That's great. I mean, yeah. I mean, that's, that's like Taylor Swift shit.

• 22:36Speaker 06

  Yeah, 100%.

• 22:37Speaker 07

  Wow. Yeah, he was Taylor of rap.

• 22:39Speaker 06

  That's crazy. Yeah, even now to this day, like crazy.

• 22:42Speaker 05

  What are the arena acts? It's like Kendrick.

• 22:44Speaker 07

  Kendrick.

• 22:44Speaker 05

  Nikki, I think Nikki's built like this unbelievable following.

• 22:49Speaker 06

  Nikki did arenas. She came to Nashville.

• 22:50Speaker 07

  Travis Scott.

• 22:51Speaker 05

  Travis.

• 22:52Speaker 06

  Travis. I don't, I don't know. Who, who is Megan and Glow? Is it a Megan and Glow, the package right now? Cause they're doing arenas right now. Megan and Glow together are doing arenas.

• 23:01Speaker 05

  But that's still packaged. Like I'm curious and maybe Megan's big enough.

• 23:04Speaker 06

  Red hot.

• 23:05Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 23:06Speaker 06

  I fucking love every, she is so Memphis. She, first of all, she's the best human ever.

• 23:10Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 23:11Speaker 06

  Like when I met her, she was, I was like, I grew up going back and forth to Memphis my whole life, like coming up under 36 Mafia. I was like, please let her be as Memphis as it looks. Let her like off camera, let it be as Memphis as it looks. Oh, she is so Memphis. She is, it's like talking to Project Pat. It is awesome dude, it is incredible how Memphis she is, but they're doing, they're, they're full blown arenas now.

• 23:32Speaker 05

  Now they're killing.

• 23:33Speaker 06

  Hold on, who in the backpack rap space?

• 23:35Speaker 05

  Say again?

• 23:36Speaker 06

  I hate to use that phrase, but like who from that space, Suicide Boys are doing an arena tour right now. Whether you acknowledge them as rappers or not, I think they're sick as, I love the Suicide Boys. But I know they're doing arenas because we're on their ass every night. They're playing Tuesdays and Thursdays like us. And they're selling almost clean everywhere they're going.

• 23:53Speaker 05

  Wow, that's awesome. I mean, it's just a rare thing. It's like, especially in the rap space, it's rarefied air. It's listened to as rap music is.

• 24:02Speaker 06

  When they did the West Coast package, I remember they did like the, whatever they labeled the West Coast package that had Cube.

• 24:09Speaker 05

  Oh, I mean, when Fifty went back out.

• 24:11Speaker 06

  Fifty went out and did it.

• 24:12Speaker 05

  He was doing it. But then again, you got one of the biggest rappers ever. It's like Kanye, yeah. It's just a hard thing for rappers to do. For whatever reason, for as much as we listen to rap, as popular as rappers are, as like seen and noticed and recognized. It doesn't translate to ticket sales in the way that like maybe country does, definitely doesn't as rock. EDM, you could argue is like over indexed. There are EDM DJs that I have no fucking clue their name. There's an EDM DJ named Anima, Anima, that is doing the Sphere in Las Vegas. And they've added shows. So now they're at like six or seven shows or something like that. Four New Year's Eve plus others. Did you guys know who this guy was? I mean, no disrespect to him. I did, you guys did it. You did.

• 24:57Speaker 06

  Do you know Fred Again?

• 24:59Speaker 05

  That guy's fucking massive.

• 25:00Speaker 06

  Fred Again was on our new artist Grammy list this year. That's how I kind of got hip to him, you know? And I was joking with Noah about it. We were joking about all the, the, you know, who all we were, me, Noah, and I think Gracie Abrams were all talking at the table. And I said, the funny part of this is Fred, I don't even think Fred Again came to the Grammys, by the way. I'm not sure. I don't think he even showed up. But if he did, I didn't get to meet him and he's going to make more money than all of us put together when it's all said.

• 25:24Speaker 05

  Yeah, it's crazy. He's doing crazy. He's doing a stadium show where he'll like have a. In like the nosebleeds. They did, they did a wild thing. They did a. Okay, I'm gonna fuck this up probably, but um with MSG, what they wanted to do is go on sale the day before the show. So they wanted 24 hour notice and I think that they couldn't because of like a Ticketmaster regulate some shit like that. So then maybe it was like a few days. They sell it out immediately and then they do the show and then for the show, I'm gonna butcher this and somebody will fucking correct me, whatever. They keep the lights on. I think they start the show at like in the afternoon and they keep the lights on. Until it's eight or 10, whatever it is. And that moment, the lights switch.

• 26:06Speaker 05

  And just imagine the energy building, building, building and then. No way. Lights off. He treated the MSG like it was a club because there wasn't even like the normal end stage. This was like it mixed in the room and then he did it with Skrillex. Okay, okay, okay. Because I think we spoke to his manager when we were in Vegas. Anyway. Yep. What a creative idea.

• 26:28Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 26:28Speaker 05

  Oh, yeah.

• 26:29Speaker 07

  Bro, he did one where he was at, I think it was at the Hollywood Bowl and he got all the people that came to his very first show when he went to LA. And it was like 200, 300 people and put them in the Hollywood Bowl in one section and did a private show for those like 300 people.

• 26:43Speaker 05

  That's fire.

• 26:44Speaker 07

  The day before the actual arena.

• 26:46Speaker 05

  That's fire. The LA Coliseum show, he created like this LED moat around the entire. Bowl of a stadium so that everyone had. Get that. And then did the BCH.

• 26:57Speaker 07

  He's a man.

• 26:58Speaker 06

  He's thinking outside the box, man. I wonder who's doing all that production for him.

• 27:01Speaker 05

  Well, that, well, yeah, I mean.

• 27:03Speaker 07

  Back at you, like your show.

• 27:05Speaker 05

  The guys, and I want to hear your guys, you know, reflection on, on your show, but what everybody came to me and they're like, oh, this was amazing. And there was this, it, it, there was so much creativity added to it, but like the explosiveness was awesome. And uh, I was talking to a guy about. EDM or whatever. I don't know anything about EDM, okay? But uh, I was talking about some EDM and he said something interesting, uh, cause I asked him to play that Anima guy or Anima. I don't know if I'm pronouncing it right. And it was like an hour long set and it started like real hard, kind of like pumping stuff. And I was like, I don't know if it's mine. He goes, yeah, but it's an hour long set. And I go, so? And he goes, well, like the first 20, 30 minutes, he's just getting everybody's heart rate up to, from 80 beats to like 110.

• 27:48Speaker 05

  And I go, why? He goes, so that they can do this big drop. He goes, it'd be different if he was just doing like five songs. As a comedian, you think about these things, but not, you're not as tied into like somebody's biochemistry as like you are with music. So when you're setting up your set, are you, if you have that hour and a half or two, how long is your set?

• 28:09Speaker 06

  Uh, 95 minutes.

• 28:10Speaker 05

  So 95 minutes. Are you considering that? Are you like, okay, we're, we're slowly bringing them on, everybody's same page, everybody's same page, build, build, but can you?

• 28:18Speaker 06

  A little different.

• 28:19Speaker 05

  But can you break down like what you're thinking when you're creating the set?

• 28:22Speaker 06

  Yeah. Every, of course, every show is different, every tour, just kinda like you with the life. But for me, this particular tour, I was like, I wanted to make a real statement at the beginning of the show. Like, it was important to me not to like, cause like, the, the trick is either you come out to a, to like, an up-tempo hit that people know, and then you kinda, kinda play into the crowd, and then you kinda bring them into the couple of songs they don't know, and the set slowly ramps up and slowly ramps up, and the last four songs are-

• 28:50Speaker 05

  The bangers.

• 28:51Speaker 06

  The biggest four songs. This is like rock and roll one on one. And I was like, so I've always tried to stay away from that model. Like, not to like, give away too much of what I do, but like, immediately, I'm like, fuck, that model sucks. You know what I'm saying? Like, fucking, even from my perspective.

• 29:05Speaker 05

  It's expected, like, and also, yeah, 100% gone.

• 29:08Speaker 06

  So I was like, what have we come out, and, and the first thing we do, I blow one of the biggest gags I have. I mean, I walk straight into the arena, and all eyes on this thing that happens, right? And I drop, I'm not okay, out the gate. You know what I mean? So it's the fucking first thing I'm doing. I mean, I'm walking right in, like, fucking, balls on table. You know what I'm saying? And I'm doing an effect, right? I'm doing an extra thing that happens. It's like, even if I look right now and tell you, you know what song I'm gonna do first. And it's still gonna have a moment in the song where you're gonna go, get the fuck outta here. You know what I'm saying? And I also did that, cause I wanted people to go, where can he go from here? That was intentional, too, cause I

• 29:50Speaker 06

  knew once I put us in a box, where whenever me and my team were talking, they're like, alright, this is the side, and I was like, this is what I wanna do with this, or like, cool. I was like, and that's how I wanna start the show. And right then, you can see them go, fuck, well, how are we gonna finish it? You know what I'm saying? I was like, that's how we challenge ourselves. Now we gotta work through it. We know where we're starting, and, uh, and then I build the whole set like an emotional, to me, it's about,

• 30:13Speaker 06

  Music, the best concerts that meant the most to me were the ones I remember leaving how they made me feel.

• 30:17Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 30:18Speaker 06

  Like, I don't even remember the set list. I don't fully remember what songs they sung. I'll remember some highlights.

• 30:23Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 30:23Speaker 06

  But I'll remember like the overarching theme of like how I left feeling.

• 30:27Speaker 05

  Amen.

• 30:28Speaker 06

  And I want people to leave this like feeling like free. Like, you know that, I don't know if you, I've talked to a bunch of people from up here, but don't take this wrong, but like, I always bring it up, but like, you know, like, that old church feeling, like, there's something about leaving church on Sunday, there's this misconception that you leave feeling like you're going to hell.

• 30:45Speaker 05

  Hmm.

• 30:46Speaker 06

  But like, if done right.

• 30:47Speaker 05

  Yeah, you feel amazing.

• 30:48Speaker 06

  You feel like that at some point in the day, right? But you leave feeling like, I'm fucking a good guy.

• 30:54Speaker 05

  You're floating.

• 30:54Speaker 06

  I showed up. I'm going to eat lunch with my mom now. Like, I'm on fire.

• 30:59Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 31:00Speaker 06

  You know what I'm saying? It's like, that's how I want people to leave that show feeling.

• 31:04Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 31:04Speaker 06

  And I try to cater the entire set to go into that moment. Cause if I know that's my end game, then I just gotta figure out how to get there.

• 31:11Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 31:11Speaker 06

  I know how I'm starting, and I know how I want people to feel walking out the door. How do I push them out the door?

• 31:16Speaker 05

  Oh, that's awesome. I can attest, Christ is king.

• 31:20Speaker 07

  Finally. Get the funny camera on him. Say it again.

• 31:27Speaker 05

  It was spectacular, no? Oh, that's so cool. Alright, guys, um, Style Bender's back.

• 31:33Speaker 07

  Yup, yup, yup, yup.

• 31:34Speaker 05

  Big fight.

• 31:35Speaker 07

  Yup, yup.

• 31:36Speaker 05

  This, you know, this is his first non-title fight since a year after he entered the UFC.

• 31:42Speaker 07

  Wow.

• 31:43Speaker 05

  Wow.

• 31:44Speaker 07

  Wow.

• 31:44Speaker 05

  How long is it? I forget, I saw the statistics somewhere, but this is the first non-title fight.

• 31:50Speaker 07

  Wow.

• 31:50Speaker 05

  Cause I think he, he won the UFC title, I guess, within like a year and change. Yeah. And then hasn't had a non-title fight, cause it's either been, he won or a rematch.

• 32:00Speaker 07

  Wow.

• 32:01Speaker 05

  Wow. Insanity, right?

• 32:03Speaker 07

  2019 or 2018 was the last one. That's crazy.

• 32:05Speaker 05

  Imagine fighting the second best guy every single fight for years.

• 32:11Speaker 07

  That's crazy.

• 32:12Speaker 05

  That's a long time to be the best. Yeah. People forget, that's the thing, like, we're, and I'm, I'm a prisoner at a moment, or whatever, recency bias, or whatever that shit is, but like, you forget what that's like. Imagine every fight you have is the Super Bowl. That's what happens when you're the belt holder. Yeah. It's the best, too. Yeah. Your name on. They ran it every time. Exactly. Everyone tuning in to see you. Not some like, you know, 12th game in a season where you're playing some bum ass squad where you don't have to go every single time. The titles and the guy who you're fighting has been thinking about that moment his entire adult life.

• 32:46Speaker 07

  That's crazy.

• 32:46Speaker 05

  Yeah. Yeah, that's nuts. I'm actually excited to see him fight a non-title fight. I'm curious to see like, is he loose? Is he fucking around?

• 32:57Speaker 05

  Yeah, you don't have to carry the weight of the promote. I mean, I'm sure he's still headlining the card, but it's not like, you're not carrying this weight like you do. And I just wonder what that's like. Like what he said when he was here. He was like, oh yeah, I'm gonna try some new stuff now. Yeah. Like, I'm looking forward to that. Like, is he gonna try to tap him out? Like, what's going, what are we gonna see? That's. Yeah.

• 33:16Speaker 07

  What do you know about Imavov, I guess is the guy?

• 33:19Speaker 05

  I saw Imavov fight some other dude, not fucking, I'm forgetting who it was, but I mean, the guy's nice if he's gonna be fighting Izzy. You know, so, um, but yeah, I'm just, I'm just excited to see it. Is it gonna be like when you get back in the clubs after the tour? You know what I mean? You're done doing arenas and you're like, you still wanna do good. Yeah. You're like, we could, you know, we could fuck around a little.

• 33:36Speaker 07

  Let's have some fun.

• 33:37Speaker 05

  Let's enjoy ourselves a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, that's a, that'll be, that'll be really cool. And then also you got the, uh, the, uh, the Mahasha fight. Maka, my motherfucker is. Maka Chef. Maka Chef.

• 33:50Speaker 07

  You see, you see.

• 33:51Speaker 05

  Islam. So Islam is fighting Sarukyan and, um, I don't know that much about, about, I think it's Armin Sarukyan. But I noticed their second fight and apparently everybody's saying how amazing Sarukyan has been and let's see what happens. But that's gonna be January 18th. Does Sarukyan have a mustache? No, but he's Christian. He's from Georgia.

• 34:14Speaker 07

  He lost.

• 34:15Speaker 05

  Or he's Armenian.

• 34:18Speaker 05

  But still Christian. Yeah.

• 34:20Speaker 07

  He lost.

• 34:21Speaker 05

  It was funny where Ariel Hawani was interviewing him and he kept saying things that were in Arabic. He's like, assalamualaikum and all these other things. And he's like, okay, I don't know. I was just completely lost about why he was saying these things. So, uh, but yeah, let's see what's going on. You know, we're like detached, I feel like from the rivalries in the Middle East. So we don't realize the stakes, you know, when like a Georgian fighter fights a Russian fighter. Yeah. You know, or like an Armenian fighter fights a Turkish fighter. Like we just, it doesn't mean as much to us because we're not ingrained in it. Yeah. You know, but I imagine that's their version of like, what's a big boxing rivalry like Puerto Rico versus Mexico. Floyd versus a white guy. Yeah.

• 35:05Speaker 05

  So yeah, I'm excited for these. Obviously get it popping over at steak, you know, leader in global betting and US social casinos, been on top sports, political events, use the promo code flagrant for your welcome bonus. And let's get back to the show.

• 35:18Speaker 00

  Joey, you've been blowing up. I want to hear about all these stories. I know some of the experiences you must have been having are crazy.

• 35:24Speaker 06

  I will tell you a story about Saturday Night Live that I don't know. I don't know. I'm sure everybody else knew this but me, but I didn't realize that the dress for dead live, live, live. It's not like live, live, it's live, live, live.

• 35:37Speaker 06

  But I didn't realize that the dress rehearsal was for an audience.

• 35:40Speaker 05

  Yeah. Oh, wow.

• 35:41Speaker 06

  I don't know why I would have missed that. I guess just when you watch it, I'm not enough behind the curtains to know that side of the business about how to sauce.

• 35:48Speaker 05

  So they can use that if they need.

• 35:49Speaker 06

  Yeah, I didn't know that was an option either because they ended up running the skit that we did in rehearsal that didn't make the actual cuts. They still ran it on YouTube.

• 35:56Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 35:56Speaker 06

  They just didn't run it on TV because I was in the skit. They just put it on YouTube. But I didn't know that. So I was like, oh, this is like crazy. And that scared me because I nailed dress rehearsal. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know how like, and you walk off and you're like, and I'm walking off and I nailed it so much that like they're, you're clapping for me in the hallways. And I'm like, don't jinx me right now.

• 36:24Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 36:24Speaker 06

  I'm like almost feeling weird about it. Like, don't praise me, y'all. This is fucking.

• 36:28Speaker 05

  That didn't count.

• 36:29Speaker 06

  You know what I'm saying? Because we, I don't get to replace this one with that one. It's not enough. That's not how live, live TV works. I don't get to come off and go, I like the first one better. That is a choice on some live TV shows, but you know what I'm saying? But it's like, this isn't one of those. This is like, all right, well, that was practice. The next one's for real.

• 36:47Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 36:47Speaker 06

  For seven million people tuned into the 50th season fucking opener. You're like, I'm gonna go out there and blow it. And then I spent two hours just thinking about how I was gonna fuck it up. You know what I mean? I was just like, there's no way I'm gonna go out here and get this right, that right.

• 36:59Speaker 05

  You're just in the green room.

• 37:00Speaker 06

  Yeah, I'm just in the green room and eating it, by the way. Just circling, just, just, I had to go out and sit with my wife in the audience.

• 37:05Speaker 07

  So what are you thinking when you're onstage, it's dark, and then you hear, ladies and gentlemen, Jelly Roll, what's going through your mind in that moment?

• 37:11Speaker 06

  I was like, why wasn't I this nervous the first time? It was the same introduction, same people, now I know it's live, so I'm sitting there thinking, I should have pissed? That's the first thing you're thinking, you're like, I should have peed.

• 37:23Speaker 07

  Yeah, I think.

• 37:23Speaker 06

  And you're like, I can hold this for three or four, you ever do, y'all have pre-show pisses?

• 37:26Speaker 07

  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 37:27Speaker 06

  Is that like one of those where like literally?

• 37:29Speaker 07

  I already pee a lot.

• 37:30Speaker 06

  The host is going up to introduce you and you're like, man, I gotta piss.

• 37:32Speaker 07

  I already pee a lot, and if I'm nervous, one sip of water, I gotta go to the bathroom. It's not even, it's like crazy.

• 37:39Speaker 06

  I'm not embarrassed, not ashamed to admit, I had to piss in my first bucket on this tour.

• 37:43Speaker 05

  Oh, really?

• 37:43Speaker 07

  What's up, yo?

• 37:44Speaker 05

  Like on the side of the stage?

• 37:46Speaker 06

  Yep.

• 37:46Speaker 05

  What did the rest of the arena do?

• 37:51Speaker 06

  There's, I have moments in the set built where I can kinda get away and figure things out if I have to.

• 37:55Speaker 05

  Got it.

• 37:55Speaker 06

  I built three moments into the set for like, just for me to breathe, if nothing else, but like, if just something's going wrong with an ear pack, you know, it's a big show, I gotta figure shit out sometimes.

• 38:03Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 38:04Speaker 06

  So it was just one of them fucking figure it out moments. And I told, right before I walked out, I looked at my guy Yanni, who's my, my, my guy in that, that particular situation, I go, Bubba, I didn't pee. He goes, oh, he knew it, he knows I pee before every show, he said, oh no, I say, I got an IV, Bubba, I'm gonna have to pee. He's like, I have a bucket for you under the thing, so we, I went under the stage and...

• 38:25Speaker 06

  Fucking sixteen thousand people cheering, some guy's doing an electric guitar solo, and you're like, this feels weird. You know what I'm saying? And you're like, but you gotta pee so bad, you don't have a choice.

• 38:35Speaker 05

  Uh, you did that one time. You did that one, wait. Multiple times? Multiple times. Which is your version? I'll tell you. When I did Kill Tony at MSG, like, I was so, my flight got delayed coming back from somewhere, we're over in Shreveport.

• 38:48Speaker 06

  Oh, Shreveport, I did the 50 Cent thing. Yeah, cause we didn't think you were gonna make it.

• 38:50Speaker 05

  Yeah, and so I come in from the 50 Cent thing, I'm like texting Tony, like, like, dude, I don't know if I'm gonna make it, I'm trying my best, whatever. I get in, I get there, I'm like boom, we're on. And they're like, okay, you're gonna go on next, somebody's gonna go up right now. I'm like, okay, I go to the Ron White's dressing room to take a shit. And as I'm like wiping, I hear them go, give it up, from New York City. So I'm like mid wipe shit caked all over my ass. Oh gosh, come on, bro. Pull up my pants, go up there, sit down, didn't wash my hands at all, dapped up everybody with the duty fingers.

• 39:26Speaker 06

  Went up there with the duty fingers. No, I seen you look frantic when you got up there.

• 39:29Speaker 05

  Oh, yeah.

• 39:29Speaker 06

  I was like, it does like, cause it was the last 12 minutes of the jam.

• 39:35Speaker 06

  We were sitting in front of house smoking a joint, I was like, he made it.

• 39:38Speaker 07

  What about Amsterdam, when they didn't have a bathroom in the whole?

• 39:41Speaker 06

  Oh, yeah.

• 39:42Speaker 07

  The whole backstage.

• 39:43Speaker 05

  What was that one? A paper wastepin? Oh, yeah, I peed behind the stage, right?

• 39:49Speaker 07

  It was like, they had the like fake green room that they built inside the arena thing.

• 39:53Speaker 05

  But there's no bathrooms?

• 39:55Speaker 07

  Yeah. So you just had a rip in the, in the trash can?

• 39:58Speaker 05

  I mean, yeah.

• 39:59Speaker 07

  And then after the show, you went up to some poor woman, you're like, by the way, that, that trash can's gotta go.

• 40:04Speaker 05

  I mean, there was one time where like, I was wearing these pants, like, you know, usually I have like a jean or something like that, or like a darker, but there was like a pant I was wearing, I don't know why, it was like light. And I peed and I was like in a rush, so I didn't let it, uh.

• 40:18Speaker 07

  Last you got to shake.

• 40:19Speaker 05

  Yeah, I, I'm a shake, I have to shake. Like at my age, I, I get, I would say between 40% of my pee out when I pee and 60% of my pee out.

• 40:29Speaker 05

  And I didn't have time to shake. And I remember running to stage and just feeling me, myself pee on myself.

• 40:36Speaker 07

  Like a full pee?

• 40:37Speaker 05

  Full pee, like going down the leg as they're playing like the intro video for me. And I remember just like taking the pants and like rubbing it into one another. Trying to dry it, like pulling whatever shirt that I had down over it.

• 40:52Speaker 06

  You were wearing denim or something light to your brain, man.

• 40:54Speaker 05

  It was light, it was light.

• 40:56Speaker 06

  Oh, yai yai. Oh, you and Alan, for y'all, y'all brave with them light colored pants. Yeah. I got too much of a dribble too, man.

• 41:04Speaker 05

  Oh, I'm straight dribble.

• 41:05Speaker 06

  Yeah. The difference between me and you is at least you can, when you shake, it's just a shake. I, I gotta do a little bit of a, little bit of hopscotch. You know what I'm saying? What was the game with Twister? I gotta do a little Twister. I gotta do a little, I gotta put one hand here, one hand here. You know what I'm saying? Give a little hip thrust.

• 41:22Speaker 05

  You know, it's such a thing, it's like, I'll be very deliberate about peeing in the toilet when I'm peeing. When I shake, it's a helicopter. Like, it, it, it's almost as if like shake dribble, wherever that goes, doesn't count. Like, it's on the sink. It's everywhere. It's on the mirror in the bathroom. It's everywhere. But I don't feel any need to clean that up. For whatever reason, I don't know why, it's the same pee. It's like, you know, like when you're in a pool and you pee, it's okay?

• 41:51Speaker 06

  No, no, no, I'm in a restroom.

• 41:53Speaker 05

  I'll go see her even more. But like, when you're in a pool and you pee, that's like, okay. If you're outside of a pool and you pee into a pool, that's not okay. Peeing in the pool versus peeing into the pool. But, no.

• 42:05Speaker 06

  What do you mean? Peeing into a pool is a little thicker.

• 42:08Speaker 05

  You get out of a pool to pee?

• 42:09Speaker 07

  I mean, I don't really swim like that, to be honest. To be really honest, you know what I mean?

• 42:14Speaker 05

  But like, you would leave the pool to pee? You would go do that?

• 42:17Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 42:17Speaker 06

  Depends on what pool. Eli.

• 42:19Speaker 07

  You're not saying that.

• 42:19Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 42:20Speaker 07

  I would, I don't swim that much. So he's gonna stand on this.

• 42:23Speaker 06

  But like, as often as you pee, you're not.

• 42:25Speaker 05

  Yeah. I'd be out in the pool every five seconds.

• 42:28Speaker 07

  I don't swim very long, guys.

• 42:31Speaker 06

  No, but now they got the stuff that you put in the pool and it changes colors when you start urinating. Is that real or is that just something? I'm hearing that since nine exactly.

• 42:38Speaker 05

  No, that's what you tell kids that don't pee in the pool.

• 42:40Speaker 06

  Yeah, they told me that in ninety-three. Well, maybe it's a fake video.

• 42:42Speaker 05

  But what's up with the chlorine then? Like, what does the chlorine do? I thought that's to clean out the pee. That's why it smells like chlorine, funny.

• 42:48Speaker 06

  I try not to piss in other people's pools.

• 42:50Speaker 05

  Say again?

• 42:51Speaker 06

  I try not to piss in other people's pools. That's a policy I try to hold too.

• 42:54Speaker 05

  I cannot.

• 42:55Speaker 06

  You know what I'm saying? My pool, if I got real piss.

• 42:57Speaker 07

  You were in his pool in Miami, I hope he peed in it.

• 42:58Speaker 06

  I don't think I peed in that pool. He peed in that pool, obviously.

• 43:01Speaker 05

  I did, yeah, yeah, yeah. One hundred percent, I did. I, I didn't even know that you weren't supposed to. I'm generally, like, you saying, I don't pee in other people's pools, like, my brain just exploded. I was like, oh, you're not supposed to do that? Like, do you see it as like taking your shoes off before you enter like an Asian thing?

• 43:17Speaker 06

  No, no, just like that. Or in your home? You don't take your shoes off.

• 43:22Speaker 05

  I walk around the home.

• 43:23Speaker 06

  Chlorine was to keep the water from getting stale, like pond water. You know what I'm saying, like?

• 43:29Speaker 05

  I thought it was to clean the pee out of the pool.

• 43:31Speaker 06

  No, I think it's more for like, you know, if water just sits stale like that and it don't get nothing, no chemical in it, the water will start, you know, watering.

• 43:41Speaker 06

  Start growing. I don't know what that means, but I get it.

• 43:46Speaker 06

  I've grew up around a pond.

• 43:52Speaker 06

  You might be right. I was just telling you, man, I've been around a pond or two.

• 43:58Speaker 06

  The only thing that keeps a pool from being a pond is chlorine.

• 44:01Speaker 05

  You know what the bummer about having a dribble is, is that like, like I would never pee on my wife, but like, let's say that we got to a point in our relationship where we were like, let's try to spice it up. We're 60 years old or whatever.

• 44:14Speaker 06

  Were you doing it in the shower?

• 44:15Speaker 05

  No, but like if I peed on her, right? And I wouldn't do this, but if I peed on her, I would finish and then I have to be like, well, hold on, most of it's about to come out now. You can't just get up now. Like we gotta be here for the little dribble. Like we gotta, I gotta spackle it up.

• 44:29Speaker 06

  Here comes the helicopter.

• 44:33Speaker 06

  I'm on another ounce and a half.

• 44:34Speaker 05

  Yeah, exactly. Yeah. So it would really just destroy the mood. Like as hot as it is, just getting drenched in urine. Then me being like, well, here comes the rest of it is.

• 44:46Speaker 06

  I'm not, how old are you?

• 44:47Speaker 05

  Huh?

• 44:48Speaker 06

  I'm finna be 40.

• 44:49Speaker 05

  I'm 40. My dick is 90.

• 44:52Speaker 06

  I don't got the drip. I got the, my problem is that my piss is in spurts. I know when I think I'm done, I got another one coming. I just gotta be patient.

• 44:59Speaker 05

  Oh, yeah.

• 45:00Speaker 06

  You know what I mean? I've just gotta stand there for another second and be like, there's a whole nother one of these.

• 45:07Speaker 06

  I've just gotta sit here and relax.

• 45:08Speaker 05

  I know that. I know.

• 45:10Speaker 06

  Like when you hold the hose closed. Yeah, exactly. It's like, I know it's on the way.

• 45:13Speaker 05

  You shit on the bus? You shit on the tour bus?

• 45:15Speaker 06

  No, no, I gotta shit in a bag instead.

• 45:17Speaker 05

  What?

• 45:17Speaker 06

  Have you had, if you ever had to shit during a show? What?

• 45:20Speaker 05

  Can I be honest with you? There was one show- Trying to whet each other up. No, no, no. This is great. There was one show where I went on stage knowing full well I had to shit. And I, I remember I got off that stage and I beelined it to the bathroom. And I filled that fucking thing up. I created like a volcanic island, like the dude who filled the hole and then grew. And then breached the surface of the water.

• 45:44Speaker 06

  Those always feel, those are great. Those are satisfying.

• 45:46Speaker 07

  I feel close to something, yeah.

• 45:47Speaker 06

  You killed it.

• 45:48Speaker 05

  It's one of those where you like, you look at your, your stomach in the mirror afterwards.

• 45:53Speaker 05

  Check your abs, like it was one of those.

• 45:54Speaker 06

  That was on Infamous.

• 45:55Speaker 05

  Why, have you shit on stage?

• 45:57Speaker 06

  No, well, I have, first of all, my wife's gonna hate this podcast. I have no shit shame and she shames me for it all the time. Good. I have zero shit shame. We need that, it's mad, that's important. I don't have it, but I've, we were playing Pittsburgh at a bar that was connected to a bowling alley. Nice. So there was like, this was the bar. Yeah, this is, yeah, this is eight years ago, seven years ago.

• 46:20Speaker 06

  Maybe fuck, six years ago even. And it's like a 500 capper, right? There's no, the backs, our green room is through the crowd. It's one of those things. And our green room didn't have a bathroom. I hate that. So you would have to go into the bowling. I, what the fuck dude? But the way the backstage was set up behind the stage was like an outdoor fenced in area that you could sit at a picnic table. You see where this story's going? I'm on stage. I like this. Listen, man, I can't believe I've told this on this podcast.

• 46:54Speaker 06

  And I feel it rumbling and I'm like, it's finna happen. I got, I hit the drummer and I'm like, yo, I just need y'all to vamp. Just like, you know. Everybody gets a solo. We don't even got ears, so you don't have a microphone to talk back. Like now we can go talk, we have full conversations on that stage because we can hit one microphone that just us can hear. Oh, that's smart. Yeah. It's crazy fire. So it's like, that wasn't an option. So I'm having to like, go to my guy, like, play, I'm fixing this shit. And I walked straight out the back door where that little back patio was, dropped my drawers. My wife standing right there going, what are you doing? We've been married maybe a year.

• 47:34Speaker 06

  And I had, this is like prime drunk jelly roll drinking codeine cocaine. Like my shit was, it was in all, just water almost, just soft serve water and I'm just, I couldn't hide stop. They played for me.

• 47:52Speaker 05

  Was it coming down your thighs?

• 47:54Speaker 06

  It's worse when fat people talk about it, right?

• 47:58Speaker 05

  I'm sorry.

• 47:59Speaker 07

  I'm imagining.

• 48:00Speaker 05

  Was it coming down your thighs?

• 48:02Speaker 07

  I'm gonna be honest, I'm thinking of going to thighs.

• 48:04Speaker 05

  Yeah, so are you squatting during this? Are you, are your legs like just straight?

• 48:09Speaker 06

  No, I'm doing like a little hover thing. You know what I'm saying? I'm doing like the best, the best squat I could do for the size I was. I pressed them against the fence probably. I've had this shit, I'm from the country.

• 48:18Speaker 05

  You're like a bear.

• 48:21Speaker 06

  I've never, sitting on the side of the road's not a new concept to me sadly.

• 48:25Speaker 05

  What do you wipe with?

• 48:26Speaker 06

  So I'm experienced in. In that moment?

• 48:27Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 48:28Speaker 06

  Nothing.

• 48:29Speaker 05

  Goddamn jelly.

• 48:31Speaker 06

  You gotta get up.

• 48:31Speaker 05

  Not a liquid shit, no.

• 48:33Speaker 06

  No, no, listen.

• 48:34Speaker 05

  You sassy. Just run your ass against a brick.

• 48:38Speaker 06

  Yeah. Worst part of this podcast.

• 48:40Speaker 05

  You went to stage with shit all over your ass and hands.

• 48:43Speaker 06

  What are you talking about?

• 48:44Speaker 05

  Yeah, I did. I'm not proud of it.

• 48:46Speaker 06

  But he was in his green.

• 48:47Speaker 05

  I tried to. You wanna know something crazy? I wiped and I broke, I broke.

• 48:51Speaker 06

  Oh, that's petty. No, you can't, now that's fucking.

• 48:54Speaker 07

  He's lying, but it's disgusting. It still, it still feels real.

• 48:56Speaker 06

  I did do that.

• 48:57Speaker 05

  I did do, why did I lie about that? So I look cool?

• 49:01Speaker 05

  Makes me look cool.

• 49:02Speaker 06

  It's working.

• 49:02Speaker 05

  I fingered my own ass.

• 49:03Speaker 06

  This is a true story. I might, I know one time, I'm not gonna keep telling shit stories.

• 49:07Speaker 05

  No, I, no, I didn't know. So you did, you went liquid shit, you went liquid shit airdrows?

• 49:15Speaker 06

  It's the wildest podcast.

• 49:16Speaker 07

  That's where you gotta shake, that's where you gotta shake.

• 49:18Speaker 05

  You gotta shake out to that liquid shit.

• 49:20Speaker 06

  No, you gotta do one of those for sure. And no, no, you know what else you gotta do? You gotta squeeze the butt cheeks together and then squat and then squeeze. You know what I'm saying?

• 49:28Speaker 05

  Get it all out, get it all out, toothpaste.

• 49:30Speaker 06

  Yeah, I've had it do, I've been in the country, I've had a white with leaves before.

• 49:35Speaker 05

  You had the white with leaves?

• 49:36Speaker 07

  That's kinda nice actually. I've done that.

• 49:37Speaker 06

  No, that's not, that stuff.

• 49:38Speaker 05

  Mark Volker.

• 49:41Speaker 06

  And the smoothest, the smoothest leave out there is gonna butcher that butthole.

• 49:48Speaker 05

  I like that. You guys are country.

• 49:53Speaker 05

  Waving with a smooth leaf? Because it can't be too smooth or it's not gonna grab. I need some grip. I need grip. I need grip. I need it to be like a skateboard.

• 50:04Speaker 06

  The first time I went to my uncle's farm, my cousin shit and wiped with, uh, poison, poison ivy.

• 50:10Speaker 05

  Oh, no.

• 50:10Speaker 06

  No, poison oak. It was poison oak. It just looks like a, it looks like a regular oak leaf.

• 50:14Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 50:15Speaker 06

  What is poison oak?

• 50:15Speaker 05

  And then what happened?

• 50:16Speaker 06

  Oh, he flamed his ass up. What are you talking about? It was all bad, man.

• 50:19Speaker 05

  We had a neighbor that did that.

• 50:20Speaker 06

  It was so bad. Do you, have you ever had poison ivy?

• 50:22Speaker 05

  Poison ivy I've had.

• 50:23Speaker 06

  Imagine that, um, all the way from bottom of nut sack to tip of tailbone.

• 50:28Speaker 05

  Oh, no.

• 50:29Speaker 06

  Yeah, horrible to see.

• 50:30Speaker 05

  We, we had a neighbor that did that. He's actually from Tennessee. Oh, it is from Knoxville. And he got poison ivy on his hands. And I swear, I swear to God, his wife came out of the room like two hours later. She was like, ah, my breasts are so, are burning. I swear to God. I'm not lying. She's like, my breasts, I just don't know what it is.

• 50:45Speaker 06

  If you touch poison ivy or poison oak, you got, you can't piss.

• 50:49Speaker 05

  Mm-hmm. Oh, really?

• 50:50Speaker 06

  Yeah, touch your dick after that. Watch, bub, that stuff is, it's like chickenpox. It goes with everything it touches.

• 50:58Speaker 05

  We gotta do that sort of hot ones, bro. We need hot ones with that. Touch your dick after poison ivy.

• 51:02Speaker 06

  It is fucking, it is crazy, man.

• 51:05Speaker 05

  Immediately. Yeah.

• 51:06Speaker 06

  That's how his wife got it. There's literally, if I touch a poison ivy right now and I grab my neck.

• 51:12Speaker 05

  Touch my dick?

• 51:13Speaker 06

  I'm not touching your back of my butt.

• 51:15Speaker 05

  If you touch my dick, that shit will get swollen, bro.

• 51:22Speaker 05

  Maybe that's, yeah, I don't know. But maybe that's, maybe that's what the foreskin or whatever is designed to do initially. It's a sheath. It is like a protective, yeah, layer. Yeah. Yeah, you need that. You need that. Do you think the foreskin is, uh, immune to types of ivy or, or, or poison? I think it is immune to a lot of poison. I think you could drag that fucking hangy dickie or sort of bush of poison oak and be okay. It does collect little things, though. Sometimes. Like, you know, like little, like a... Stickers and stuff. It collects little stickers. No way. Are you like a clam? Like, if we open you up, is there gonna be like a little marble in there? Yeah, there's jewels. Oh, my god. If you let it go too long. Can we do that on a Patreon? Yeah, we might need to. That'd be kinda sick. That's why you just gotta go commando, bro.

• 52:07Speaker 05

  You have a bidet?

• 52:08Speaker 06

  I live by a bidet. Ernestum done turned me, Ernestum done sent me a bunch of bidets during COVID.

• 52:15Speaker 05

  We only need one.

• 52:15Speaker 06

  Somebody found, no, we got, listen, so my wife.

• 52:17Speaker 05

  Multiple bathrooms.

• 52:22Speaker 06

  Cause I like the attachment so much.

• 52:24Speaker 05

  Wait, what?

• 52:24Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 52:25Speaker 05

  Oh, with the wireless situation?

• 52:27Speaker 06

  Yeah, no, no, no, no. Yeah, yes. This was like, she bought the one from wherever they make them at.

• 52:33Speaker 07

  They got full ass toilets?

• 52:34Speaker 06

  Whatever.

• 52:35Speaker 07

  They got like a dryer and fire.

• 52:37Speaker 06

  Dude, you can, I can.

• 52:39Speaker 05

  Is one.

• 52:39Speaker 06

  Yes, the whole toilet's one. I can control the temperature.

• 52:42Speaker 05

  That's the underrated thing. Heated toilet seat when you go on?

• 52:46Speaker 07

  That's that, yeah, that's sick.

• 52:47Speaker 06

  Instant relax, that we've been talking about.

• 52:49Speaker 05

  Why are they, why are they so good at the toilet thing? Why did the Japanese?

• 52:53Speaker 07

  Why are we not? We eat the most shit the most gotta be.

• 52:56Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 52:57Speaker 07

  Why are we not more focused on ass hygiene?

• 52:59Speaker 05

  I had a bidet for years now. Bidet, no.

• 53:02Speaker 06

  Did America invent the porta potty? I feel like that's something we would have.

• 53:06Speaker 05

  Oh, must have. Yeah, George Harding made the first porta potty in 1960. Yeah, that's a great idea.

• 53:10Speaker 06

  That's great, damn. It makes me wonder how they were shitting in festivals before that.

• 53:14Speaker 05

  Oh, like Woodstock?

• 53:15Speaker 06

  Woodstock was in the 60s, though.

• 53:17Speaker 05

  Yeah, but they, oh, that's a good point.

• 53:18Speaker 06

  But yeah, though they had a, that was a problem with Woodstock down the way. They didn't have enough.

• 53:22Speaker 05

  Well, I don't know if they had porta potties in Woodstock.

• 53:24Speaker 06

  Well, they didn't have enough. The problem was, you know the story about Woodstock, right? Y'all know this?

• 53:28Speaker 05

  No.

• 53:29Speaker 06

  I'm gonna butcher it and y'all correct me, but at least in the spirit of me trying to get it right.

• 53:33Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 53:33Speaker 06

  Is they anticipated, based on like ticket sales, this to be a flop. They, they staffed it for like 4,000 people.

• 53:44Speaker 05

  Wow.

• 53:45Speaker 06

  So what happened was because it was so loose, they didn't even put fences up or try to gate it or nothing. They were just like, look, it's just kind of, at this point, it's integrity. We sold 4,000 tickets. Anybody who wants to show up can come. But back then, it wasn't like you could post that on fucking TikTok. You know what I mean? So they thought. You know, maybe our neighbors will come. Maybe, you know, the community will come together. They were expecting like five, seven thousand people at most. When a half a million motherfuckers and the word started getting out. Fucking Jimi Hendrix, all this crazy shit's happening and it's free. They don't have a fence. It's like, yeah, it's a certain, you know, right? So it immediately just like the whole, this part of America.

• 54:22Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 54:22Speaker 06

  Yeah, right into it as well. So, yeah, no, there was shit everywhere. It was a big part of, when you watch the documentary, it's super bad. The, the, the other problem was they didn't know how to feed people. And there were so many people backed up on the interstate highways. That's why there was only one Woodstock. It was a logistical nightmare.

• 54:38Speaker 06

  The other side of the beauty of what we see is they could not, they thought people were gonna die. It was really bad. The locals came in and started cooking like big bowls of chicken and rice just to mass feed people.

• 54:48Speaker 07

  Wow.

• 54:49Speaker 06

  They wasn't ready to feed that many. They wasn't ready for, that area of New York wasn't ready for a half a million motherfuckers to show up.

• 54:58Speaker 05

  You feel bad for the Fire Fest guy. He's like, I went to prison for this. And the Woodstock guy's got like the greatest documentary ever. Like, what the fuck?

• 55:05Speaker 06

  Yeah, it was great as. He's running it back though. Fire Fest is running it back. Is he gonna do it again? Yeah, would you perform at Fire Fest too? Um, I think I'd probably pass. Yeah. I think I'd probably pass. I don't know, man. I'm all about second chances and redemption too, though. Yeah. I would hear him out. Yeah. I would give him, I would give him an audience. You know what I mean? Like, yo, what did you really learn?

• 55:22Speaker 07

  Make sure he comes thirsty.

• 55:23Speaker 06

  Did you not come out? See, like, the, the problem is with, with prison is, people either come out and really wanna change their life or they come out smarter criminals.

• 55:30Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 55:32Speaker 06

  And that's the, that's the truth. And you just, and I'm all about second chances. So, yeah, I'd hear him out, but my, my gut reaction is fucking no. Not into that at all. You know what I mean? But I'm also just not into being on a plane that long or, Yeah. Just doesn't sound like my crowd. And I don't look like what, based on what he tried to book.

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• 57:03Speaker 05

  You're headlining.

• 57:04Speaker 06

  This is stagecoach.

• 57:05Speaker 05

  Yeah, this is the big one.

• 57:06Speaker 06

  Huge, huge, huge. Yeah, it's our Coachella. I know y'all work ridiculous and asking y'all to do something other than work on a Saturday.

• 57:14Speaker 07

  I want to go to that.

• 57:14Speaker 05

  Stagecoach would be awesome. So it's you, who else?

• 57:16Speaker 06

  It's going to be so Luke Combs or Zach Bryan's. But Luke Combs is Friday night.

• 57:21Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 57:21Speaker 06

  I headline Saturday night and Zach Bryan headline Sunday night.

• 57:24Speaker 07

  Wow.

• 57:25Speaker 06

  It's going to be 75,000. It's going to be, I mean, it's going to be insane.

• 57:30Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 57:31Speaker 06

  Where is it?

• 57:31Speaker 05

  It's April. It's, it's. Coachella is the first week. First two weeks. And then the week after it is. Yeah.

• 57:39Speaker 07

  And then, hold on, there's a fun little thing.

• 57:41Speaker 05

  T-Pain, Creed and Backstreet Boys. Oh, fire.

• 57:45Speaker 07

  T-Pain is fire, dude.

• 57:46Speaker 06

  Look over Nelly doing 25 years of Country Grammar. Lana Del Rey. Sammy Hagar.

• 57:51Speaker 05

  Sturgill.

• 57:52Speaker 06

  Sammy Hagar's the man.

• 57:53Speaker 05

  Oh, Sturgill's going to be awesome.

• 57:55Speaker 06

  Sturgill's my night.

• 57:56Speaker 07

  Son, I was, we were just talking about Nelly last weekend and how like, man, that first album, unfucking believable.

• 58:02Speaker 06

  This is the album we're celebrating.

• 58:03Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 58:03Speaker 06

  Country Grammar.

• 58:04Speaker 07

  Country Grammar, EI.

• 58:05Speaker 06

  Doing all Country Grammar.

• 58:06Speaker 07

  Raging Me, those were just like, those took over the country.

• 58:08Speaker 06

  Shabooz is my night. Co Wetzel, Asher. This is, this night is special.

• 58:11Speaker 05

  I'm pulling up.

• 58:11Speaker 07

  Yeah, dead ass.

• 58:13Speaker 05

  Flatland Cavalry. This is awesome. What is this? What, what?

• 58:16Speaker 07

  25th, 26th, 27th.

• 58:17Speaker 05

  Of what?

• 58:18Speaker 07

  April.

• 58:19Speaker 05

  I'm in there.

• 58:19Speaker 06

  I'm coming. I'm bringing the wife.

• 58:21Speaker 05

  It's going to be big.

• 58:21Speaker 06

  How crazy?

• 58:22Speaker 05

  Is it to have the baby out there?

• 58:23Speaker 06

  It's great. Come on, put, put, we'll put the headphones on. People bring babies all the time. It's great. The weather was great when we were out there.

• 58:28Speaker 05

  Also, the baby can stay. You're not like, it's not like a Woodstock type thing where you're like there the whole day. You can go back to the house and then come back for different.

• 58:36Speaker 06

  So easy to come back. And also, especially on my night, I have the whole compound. So it's whatever. I'll give you your own, you'll have your own room. Don't worry about that. We'll take care of you.

• 58:44Speaker 05

  Yeah. Okay, that'll be fine.

• 58:46Speaker 06

  We'll roll out the red carpet. It'll be fun. This is a big deal for us. If you know, one thing y'all know about me is I'm like y'all. This is how we became friends. Is that we treat every moment that is a moment like it's a moment. So y'all know what the fuck I'm fixing it. It should say Jelly Rollin' Friends, because I am fucking, I got big tricks up my sleeve. I got big tricks up my sleeve. I'll talk about it. I've already got one commitment to do. But this one commitment is the only one that comes through. It's gonna be the most legendary thing that ever happened to Stagecoach. And I got two more calls out for even crazier looks.

• 59:18Speaker 05

  Wow. And like seeing that, like Saturday of Stagecoach, that's when everyone is there. It's like, that's a Jay-Z, Beyonce main stage equivalent with what they should. Just gonna say you should bring up.

• 59:29Speaker 06

  Yeah, that's, that's the weekend at Coachella. Yeah. It's that same audience. Not the week, weekends, obviously the biggest artists ever.

• 59:35Speaker 05

  And Andrew just thinking what drugs he's gonna be doing that night. No, no, I haven't been into the drugs, though I'm being the. Fatherhood, that's the drug. Yeah, fatherhood. I haven't, I haven't smoked a cigarette or anything since the baby. And I haven't touched drugs since the baby. Wow. And not really even had any interest in doing it. It's kind of weird. But I will say this, Burning Man is calling me a little bit. I was talking to my, my, my, the guy who does like PT and training stuff, shout out to [BLEEP]. And he's fucking unbelievable. You guys should definitely get in touch with him if you can. He's incredible, truly incredible. Like saved my shoulder. My shoulder, I was getting cortisone, what are they called? Cortisone? Cortisone or cortisol? Cortisone. Cortisone, yeah. Cortisone shots. The doctor was literally like, yeah, this is just what your shoulders are gonna be like. A doctor.

• 1:00:20Speaker 05

  And then him and [BLEEP] is another one. They basically just like saved my shoulder. Like, truly remarkable. Makes me truly believe in PT. Anyway. Ah, fuck, I can't. Now we gotta believe his name because I want to tell you the other thing. But uh, he's like a chemist with everything in his life in terms of what he puts in his body outside like with food, etc. And then just today, he was breaking down his like, how he does the night, how he ramps up the night and uh, yeah, he's like, he tests his own drugs.

• 1:00:51Speaker 06

  Wow.

• 1:00:51Speaker 05

  He, he creates his own pills out of it.

• 1:00:55Speaker 06

  Wow.

• 1:00:56Speaker 05

  Like he's so-

• 1:00:57Speaker 06

  Oh, he's dosing himself. He's down to the micro-science of-

• 1:00:59Speaker 05

  Like, he's got it down to a science what he needs to have his perfect-

• 1:01:04Speaker 07

  Cortisone, right?

• 1:01:06Speaker 05

  So the second he told me that shit, I was like, I think I need to get high again. I didn't know you could do it like a science. You know, that seems safe.

• 1:01:13Speaker 06

  Listen, man.

• 1:01:14Speaker 07

  It's learning, really, when you get down to it.

• 1:01:16Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:01:16Speaker 06

  I've been a parent a little bit for a little while now and I can tell you one of the most pieces of parent advice I can give my two young fathers here. Especially for you and your wife, which I've met both of your wives and I think they're both sweet people.

• 1:01:29Speaker 06

  It's important for y'all to find time to not be parents. And I know you're early in the process, so that sounds unreal at this moment. But it is important that y'all go to Burning Man and completely fucking lose your mind and forget the kids. That is the only thing that will make that balancing act work. Cause a little night out with some wine or a weekend, a weekend away at a hotel, a staycation or this, that's not enough. You need every now and then to go out and be like, we're fucking college kids again. We're fucking gonna get naked and swing from chandeliers. We're gonna get kicked out of a fucking hotel like it's important every now and then. All parents out there listening, trust the fat man with this one, y'all, I swear.

• 1:02:09Speaker 06

  It is a backbone of something me and Bunny have stood by. It's like, it is important to every now and then. Cause even you'll go out and do stuff, we're parents 24 hours a day, seven days a week, three or six, five days a year. Every now and then, I just don't need to be one.

• 1:02:23Speaker 05

  You know, it's funny, it's like, you spend so much more time with your, your wife or your partner or whatever, once you have a kid. And, but it is fundamentally nothing like the time that you've spent in the past. So before any time you get together, right, as a dude, you're obviously calculating, you're like, okay, we got tons of time this week. This is awesome. We didn't get time next week.

• 1:02:46Speaker 05

  But when you're with the baby, you think you're getting that same experience, but you're not filling each other up in the same way. You're getting filled up by that baby. That baby is euphoria, right? But there is another component, which is filling each other up. And whether, I don't know if it's, you know, you gotta go crazy every single time, but literally just making sure you go out to dinner. Like, that's something that my wife and I, a half hour going to get coffee. Like, having 30 minutes where we can talk to one another. Maybe there's some shit we gotta work out. Maybe there's a disagreement we got. And they're just, well, we don't wanna argue for the baby. Exactly. Creating those times, and at first, you almost feel selfish. You're like, why am I trying to create time with me and my wife when we have a baby? Like, we should be spending every single second with the baby.

• 1:03:27Speaker 05

  But you realize that maybe that's the most important thing for that baby. Like, if, if things are great between us, everything's good. And if they're not good between us, they are in a really difficult situation. If, if something nobody will prepare you for, nobody talks about it. Like, nobody tells you right before you have a kid. By the way, your relationship is gonna completely change the dynamic, the how you guys spend time. And you need to be ready for that change, and do everything that you need to make sure that you're both getting what you need from each other within that change.

• 1:03:59Speaker 06

  It's a whole extra prioritization, too. Oh, yeah. Initially, it's like, I'm just, you know, I'm already juggling work and these other ideas I have, and ambitions, and dreams, and hobbies with my wife. Now I'm juggling, and then, and then it's easy to lump them together. Oh, it's my wife and kid. And I had to learn fast, like, it's not.

• 1:04:15Speaker 05

  It ain't that.

• 1:04:15Speaker 06

  That is one thing, but me and my wife are a separate thing. And this where it gets deeper when they get older. And me and my kid are a separate thing, too. Cause then I, then you'll fall guilty sometimes. Be like, oh, I've got it great, I got the wife and kid, and then I got the wife. It's like, well, no, you still gotta go sit down and be just a dad, dude.

• 1:04:28Speaker 05

  She needs just you.

• 1:04:29Speaker 06

  Yeah, like, you still gotta go put in that.

• 1:04:31Speaker 05

  And you need that just her time, too.

• 1:04:32Speaker 06

  Just her time, it's important for growth. And me, sneaking away, getting them dinners, going on those things, they're important. Equally important, once a year, go blow it out.

• 1:04:40Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 1:04:40Speaker 06

  Be fucking irresponsible. I stand by it, dude. I'm, I, it's been, it's been such an important thing for me and my wife.

• 1:04:47Speaker 05

  There's that thing on Instagram that, like, everybody's been, every male friend group has been forwarding to one another, and none of us have been forwarding to our wives. But it was like, study says that men need two nights out a week with the boys. Have you guys seen that pop up on your Instagram?

• 1:04:59Speaker 07

  No, fuck's my algorithm doing?

• 1:05:02Speaker 05

  The girl's in control of it. The, uh, but like, it is, I don't know what the exact number is. Like, obviously, we're very lucky. We get to come here and like, shoot the shit and just have a lot of fun. But, uh, that is an important thing to communicate as well. Like, that's a really hard thing to say to the person you love more than anything in the world is, "Hey, I need to not be with you tonight."

• 1:05:22Speaker 06

  For sure.

• 1:05:23Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:05:23Speaker 05

  You know what I mean? Like, I think my wife was like, "I just love spending time with you." And I was like, "I also love spending time with me."

• 1:05:34Speaker 05

  So I need to do that right now. I need about an hour with me. What you're feeling is what I'm feeling. I need that right now.

• 1:05:40Speaker 06

  Bunny, Bunny quit drinking many years ago and everything I gave up, I'll still go out and tie one on every now and then.

• 1:05:47Speaker 06

  And I've cut it back immensely, but that's what Bunny does understand is that when I do have that let it go. Ranger in me, Bunny is, "I love her for this, because my wife stands, she'll be, she'll call it early." She'll be like, "You might just need to find a night to go out." Like, she'll start kind of pushing me like, "When have you done something? You know, go do something." So like, even like the other night when we're sitting around, it's my first night off in probably seventeen, eighteen days. And she was like, "You should go rest." I was like, "Soul's is at a comedy club. I get to catch him at a cellar." And while we're here, I want to book, I don't want to bookmark it. I want you to let me get through this.

• 1:06:18Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:06:19Speaker 06

  When I seen you at the Life Tour, I can tell you beyond the shadow of a doubt, it's gonna be one of the greatest hours of stand-up we're ever gonna witness.

• 1:06:26Speaker 05

  Oh, God bless.

• 1:06:26Speaker 07

  It is his best hour, I said that to him.

• 1:06:28Speaker 06

  No, no, no. It's not about being your best hour.

• 1:06:30Speaker 05

  Yeah, thank you.

• 1:06:30Speaker 06

  It is going to be one of the best hours ever. And I had a moment when you were at the Cellar, because this is why I wanted to come see you too. I had a moment at the Cellar where I was like, I seen it at Nashville Comedy Fest in April.

• 1:06:40Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:06:41Speaker 06

  The way y'all's business work is different than mine. It's only gotten better.

• 1:06:45Speaker 05

  Oh, thank you, man.

• 1:06:46Speaker 06

  It couldn't have gotten worse. The way y'all's business is, you've only found, I seen you working out little shit. I'm like, "Oh, he's still picking this thing fucking apart."

• 1:06:53Speaker 05

  Trying to.

• 1:06:54Speaker 06

  And I've seen it fucking, you know what I mean? Um, you can use this part or not if you don't want to. Even down to the name caught me off guard. Like, I had flash shots of when you announced the Life Tour and it's this silhouette of you. I have these flash shots of you in this nineteen sixty-four Impala doing, you know, at your first big LA theater show, right? I'm looking at like, these Schultz moments and I'm like, "Oh, I bet this is gonna be..." You know, I remember the plain Schultz and like, I just remember these eras of like, "I wonder what this is gonna be." So I went in expecting more of that. And was like, get the fuck out of here. I was like, this dude's a fucking, this is brilliant.

• 1:07:29Speaker 05

  That's what I say.

• 1:07:29Speaker 06

  So many people, so much more than motherfuckers know you're that, they know you're him, but they still underestimate you.

• 1:07:37Speaker 05

  Thank you, man.

• 1:07:38Speaker 07

  That's why I say it's his best hour, given everything he's done for this to still be his best hour. I don't say that lightly.

• 1:07:43Speaker 06

  They're gonna, they're gonna goat hedge on this one, dog.

• 1:07:45Speaker 05

  Oh, thank you, man. Thank you.

• 1:07:46Speaker 06

  Fucking special. So anyways, I tell my wife, I'm like, yo, Sosa said to sell her.

• 1:07:50Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:07:50Speaker 06

  And she's like, oh, fucking go. She immediately was like, cause she knows I need that.

• 1:07:55Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:07:55Speaker 06

  She's like, she knows how much I need to like, she knows how much y'all fill me up and how much I love comedy. And she's like, just go be somewhere where you fucking aren't you.

• 1:08:03Speaker 05

  That's a lot of confidence for her to say that too, like for her not to see that as a sense of rejection. Like you don't want to be with her.

• 1:08:08Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:08:09Speaker 05

  And that takes time also, like that's maturity.

• 1:08:11Speaker 06

  Mm hmm.

• 1:08:12Speaker 05

  You know, it's very easy, I think, to get caught up in many, when we can get caught up in this feeling of like, oh, if my partner doesn't want to be with me, do they, does that mean they don't like me?

• 1:08:20Speaker 06

  Right.

• 1:08:20Speaker 05

  Am I not as fun as that other thing?

• 1:08:22Speaker 06

  Do they want to be with someone else?

• 1:08:23Speaker 05

  Yeah, exactly.

• 1:08:24Speaker 06

  There's something else cooking. You're right.

• 1:08:26Speaker 05

  Yeah. And we both do it. And then instead of saying, hey, I'm hurt, we get upset at them or try to catch them and things because it's way easier to be like, you're wrong than say, I feel insecure. So it's, that's, I like commend her for that. That's a very mature position.

• 1:08:39Speaker 06

  I'm telling you, and I was gonna go hang out with her and she was like, she was like, no, go, man. Bunny's just, that's just where she's at. She's, she's always encouraged, but she knows my heart too. She knows like, this dude's been fucking, you know, like, cause when I get to get in them situations, I don't, I don't have to be the dude. I just get to be with the dudes.

• 1:08:55Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:08:56Speaker 06

  You know what I'm saying? So she knows how much I need that.

• 1:08:58Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:08:58Speaker 06

  You know what I mean? Like.

• 1:08:59Speaker 05

  You get to relax a little bit. That's interesting. I didn't think about it like that. Like everybody, when you're on tour and you're doing, you're doing all these different things, everything is, is, is around your orbit.

• 1:09:10Speaker 06

  Right.

• 1:09:10Speaker 05

  And then when you go hang out with some other guys, that it's not related to your show or anything you're doing in your life.

• 1:09:16Speaker 06

  And we're genuinely just friends.

• 1:09:17Speaker 05

  Yeah, everybody's just hanging, there's no longer this pressure, this expectation, everybody waiting to see if it's time for you to go, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:09:24Speaker 06

  And then my connection always with y'all too, is that watching that we were all in clubs together.

• 1:09:28Speaker 05

  Mm hmm.

• 1:09:29Speaker 06

  And have built this thing in like a parallel path. So it's like now we're, now we're just sitting being homies. We're dudes and now we're giving inside trader secrets, right? Now it's like, oh, what's this? What's that? What's the deal on this? What's the deal on that? You know what I mean?

• 1:09:41Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:09:42Speaker 06

  And you getting with Kells that night was special for me, cause I, um. I wanted, I had a lot, multiple conversations with him where I was like, I have so many people that if they knew you were this charming, would feel so differently about you. I was like, could you just humor me and just go show people this? And he was like, and I love him so much because he was so open to it. And it was so innocent because he was like, how? And I was like, bub, man, because you know, he had come up such a rock star way. It had been semi-traditional media.

• 1:10:12Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:10:12Speaker 06

  So he had never like.

• 1:10:13Speaker 05

  There wasn't a lot of opportunity to show personality. Like you're only seeing art and you're only seeing pictures.

• 1:10:18Speaker 06

  For sure.

• 1:10:19Speaker 05

  And then you spoke about that, about even like through podcasting, like podcasting, you really get a sense of like who somebody is.

• 1:10:25Speaker 06

  You can't come in here and fake it for two and a half.

• 1:10:27Speaker 05

  Two hours is a long time.

• 1:10:28Speaker 06

  Boys on Flagrant. I tell, I tell my people in Nashville that all the time.

• 1:10:31Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:10:32Speaker 06

  You can't go sit on Joe Rogan for two and a half hours and Joe not get you to tell people who the fuck you are.

• 1:10:37Speaker 05

  Exactly.

• 1:10:37Speaker 06

  You know what I'm saying?

• 1:10:38Speaker 05

  It's gonna come out.

• 1:10:38Speaker 06

  It's just inevitable. You can't shoot, wherever I go do, mm, 12, a 12 minute clip for this particular show.

• 1:10:47Speaker 05

  In America or whatever.

• 1:10:47Speaker 06

  It's pretty easy to kind of, you know, okay, we don't really got to really dig up into the,

• 1:10:51Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:10:52Speaker 06

  into the weeds here. And a lot of artists avoid this because they know that it can only do us wrong. We can only, this is only risky for.

• 1:10:58Speaker 05

  There's gonna be shit stories that come up.

• 1:11:00Speaker 06

  Yeah, there's gonna be shit stories. There's gonna be fucking funny headlines, you know what I mean?

• 1:11:03Speaker 05

  But if you are a magnetic personality, then it's a great platform.

• 1:11:07Speaker 06

  It's a great pla, that's what I tell, I'm like, yo, bub, just like, go, I was like, and go somewhere you like, go somewhere you're interested in because you did what they do or somewhere you feel safe.

• 1:11:16Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:11:17Speaker 06

  And then immediately he's like, your friends with Flagrant.

• 1:11:20Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:11:20Speaker 06

  I was like, those are my boys.

• 1:11:21Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:11:21Speaker 06

  And he was like, I gotta get with them. I was like, I'm gonna tell you how that works.

• 1:11:24Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:11:24Speaker 06

  You're gonna have to meet them because they're dudes.

• 1:11:27Speaker 05

  I need him to tell, I need, I need him to tell that, that Leo story. I'm not gonna say anything else, but he told a story that, man.

• 1:11:35Speaker 06

  Listen, man, that dude's got the best stories. We gotta get him on his couch, man. He's fucking.

• 1:11:39Speaker 05

  So, so he had an interest in him, like he's this young kid in Hollywood. At the time where it's like him, Bieber and like a few other people going. And like

• 1:11:50Speaker 06

  Are you going to piss?

• 1:11:51Speaker 05

  Yeah. Yeah. We can't let him drink water. We can't let him drink water.

• 1:11:55Speaker 06

  There's a bucket in the corner. We'll get him pissed, but I gotta put a towel in.

• 1:11:59Speaker 05

  He was, and it was just like going, like that time where there are these young people in Hollywood just going crazy. The stories that came out of that were quite, quite entertaining.

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• 1:13:26Speaker 06

  That's something else that we were judging G K because I think about this all the time for him. I thank God I didn't burst on the scene at 25.

• 1:13:34Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:13:34Speaker 06

  Cause like the way I thought at 25 and would have projected myself into critical mass.

• 1:13:40Speaker 05

  Yeah. Yeah.

• 1:13:40Speaker 06

  You know what I mean? It would have not favored me for sure.

• 1:13:43Speaker 05

  What I thought was cool though is like, cause if you ask me a question, I'm going to give you a real answer. And he was straight up, he was just like, yeah. So what do you think this is? And I was like, all right, well, this is, these are my, my thoughts on it. And. That's heavy. If you're asking me to describe your perception, where your career is at, all these different things, like I, I tell you honestly, and he was like, he thought he was, he reflecting, he was like, oh, wow, I can see that. A lot of people would fight for their perceived identity in that moment and be like, no, I disagree with you about these types of things. But like analyzing, he's like, oh, okay, I could see why that might be. And I was like, oh, that was kind of cool. Yeah.

• 1:14:18Speaker 06

  He, he's so, man, every conversation I've ever had with him, he's so, even down to like this, I joked with you that night and I'm in, I'm like, I'm his publicist right now. It's how I feel. You know what I'm saying? I'm out here showing the world like this dude is so much, even when we got back to circle back to the him and M thing is like, that's why I see so much of them in each other. I just think that he was so young during all of that, too. You know what I mean? Like even what he did to initially make him mad into the battle era of like, you know, man, that dude's got a, you know, like we're watching this new video with him and I'm getting choked up watching his daughter get married and announce a child.

• 1:14:52Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:14:52Speaker 06

  But equally, I'm just with MGK at MGK day in Cleveland and he's got a 16 year old that's like already taking college classes.

• 1:15:01Speaker 05

  Crazy, right?

• 1:15:02Speaker 06

  Genius kid. He's like, this dude flies every weekend from LA to go be a volleyball dad. You know what I mean? Like every weekend, I'm like, if people knew that about you, besides this picture of you wearing this fucking wild outfit, you know what I'm saying? Like it would be such a, I, I know how fast it made my shift of you.

• 1:15:22Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:15:23Speaker 06

  You know what I mean? Whenever I'm talking to you and I'm seeing the consistency, I'm like, where you at? He's like, on my way to Cleveland. I'm like, damn, volleyball again this weekend? He's like, every weekend, dog, for 28. He quit tour, he took a year off of touring.

• 1:15:32Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:15:33Speaker 06

  Tens of millions of dollars, like, ah, man, it's gonna be like one of the last years I can watch her play.

• 1:15:37Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:15:37Speaker 06

  Like, that's the kind of duty is it like where his spirit's at right?

• 1:15:40Speaker 05

  And that's the type of thing that comes out when you, you know, share your personal life. But it's scary to share your personal life, too.

• 1:15:45Speaker 06

  Super.

• 1:15:46Speaker 05

  Especially when, you know, I imagine like there's certain people in the industry that have,

• 1:15:51Speaker 05

  their idea of like crafting a rock star is a very specific, certain thing. And they're like, no, we have to keep you as mysterious and weird and all this other stuff. And he might be like, okay, well, yeah, I like doing rock and I like dressing weird, but I also like going to volleyball games with my daughter. And that's often more relatable than the mystery. I think he like grew up in Egypt too, or something like, doesn't he have?

• 1:16:14Speaker 07

  Like Christian missionary parents or something like that?

• 1:16:16Speaker 06

  I don't, I know his mother's like a Viking or something like that. That's why he got all the blacks. I swear, man, like super. It's a crazy story. That's why he got all that blackout shit tattooed on him. It was a cra- he told me one night the full story, but I was really high.

• 1:16:30Speaker 06

  So I don't want to butcher that story completely.

• 1:16:32Speaker 07

  When was the last time you tied one on? When was the last time you really went for it?

• 1:16:34Speaker 06

  Um, SNL.

• 1:16:36Speaker 07

  Oh, really?

• 1:16:36Speaker 06

  Of course.

• 1:16:37Speaker 07

  Late, late night?

• 1:16:38Speaker 06

  We came out of a burlesque bar, came out of a burlesque bar at eight o'clock in the morning with Post and MGK. Literally the box or something like that.

• 1:16:48Speaker 06

  Super awesome. Of course. Dude, listen, y'all. I'm from Antioch, Tennessee, dude. I played on Saturday Night Live. Fucking absurd that is. Like, when you really start rapping, like if you, I tell people, they know that I'm a criminal by my history and I talk about it openly. But if you just like seen it on a sheet of paper and then said, that guy played on Saturday Night Live. People like, get the fuck out of here.

• 1:17:14Speaker 07

  Dude, to that point, I listened to this support station in Dallas. I always talk about it, but they said you, you performed at a cafe in a radio station. When I say cafe, I mean two vending machines, some small tables. I don't even know, like 99.5 The Wolf, I think is there in Dallas. I don't know how long ago that was. I, I can't even, I don't even understand that part of your life. What is that journey like for you? What do you reflect on? Like, do you remember that moment?

• 1:17:36Speaker 06

  Yeah, for sure. That was just a few years ago too, man. That was just me going to radio and just trying to be like, yo, man, this is my record. I just would be honored if y'all take a chance to hear it. I was just like telling my story, you know what I mean? But even the early, dude, we played bars for, when you see my show and double attest for this, it reeks of a man who's done a thousand. You know what I mean? Like, does that make sense? Like, I kind of, I jumped with Schultz when I was like, have you ever had a shit on stage? But I knew that he's done enough shows. That there was a story. There's no way you stood on that many stages and the bubble guts haven't hit you to the point of being like, I gotta get the fuck off here. You know what I mean?

• 1:18:13Speaker 05

  There's a difference between people who have had like years on the road, especially with comics, and then comics who like kind of blow up quick. And they can be funny that comics have blow up quick, but there's different chops on stage. And I imagine the same thing is probably multiplied by 10 when it comes to bands or when it comes to music. Like, there's no replacement for a decade of shitty shows. Cause that is going to put you in every scenario possible.

• 1:18:41Speaker 06

  The Tik Tok era, oh, man, this is good, souls.

• 1:18:44Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:18:45Speaker 06

  Has done this so much.

• 1:18:46Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:18:47Speaker 06

  These kids will blow up and be able to sell 2,000 tickets, but have never done a single show in their life.

• 1:18:52Speaker 05

  Yeah, I mean, you saw it with.

• 1:18:54Speaker 06

  Or 3,000 or.

• 1:18:54Speaker 05

  With all due respect, like you saw with Ice Spice in our earliest shows, like here's this girl that goes from not doing anything to these like massive shows and she had to learn how to perform.

• 1:19:02Speaker 06

  You gotta learn how to perform in front of the world.

• 1:19:04Speaker 05

  Like she had to, and imagine how scary that is. You go from rapping in some random studio to having 10,000 people in front of you and you're just like, fuck, it's not just saying the words anymore. I gotta dance. I gotta have charisma. It's a different game.

• 1:19:17Speaker 06

  It is a, it is a, it is a totally different game. It's also about them getting honest booking agents. I'm watching this Aaron Hernandez thing on that FX right now. And it was so interesting when he's meeting with his agents. Have y'all seen it yet?

• 1:19:31Speaker 05

  I've heard it's pretty bad to be honest with you.

• 1:19:33Speaker 06

  They say that about all the FX shows like it, but I'm so into the story. I watch, I would watch the animation of whatever happened to that story. It's crazy to me. I've watched everything you can about it. But it was interesting. I'd never seen the side of him meeting with the agents and whether it's true or not, it reminded me of the Tik Tok era. Because all these agents are coming in and they're like, you're a first round draft pick. You're a superstar. And then one agent comes in and goes, you're going to be lucky if we get you picked in the third.

• 1:20:01Speaker 05

  Oh, wow.

• 1:20:02Speaker 06

  And he's like, I've already picked my guy. Get out of here. He said, I will, but if they told you what's happening at the combine? And he just kind of starts leaning in like, they didn't tell you, you gotta answer questions for three hours, did they? They didn't tell you that all 52 teams get to ask you questions for three hours apiece? Did they tell you this? And he's going, he said, yeah, that's because some other agents are lying to you. Call you when you call me when you realize what's really going on. So he ends up picking that guy though.

• 1:20:26Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:20:26Speaker 06

  But it's like, that's happening in the Tik Tok world because some agents going in with their mom and dad, sometimes these Tik Tokers, right? And this agent's going, I can get y'all making $20,000 a show right now. We're going to go right into theaters. We're going to do, do, do, do. And then they go meet another agent, another booking agent who's the right guy who goes, look.

• 1:20:45Speaker 06

  I think we need to go play this like 300 cap room circuit. Let's go do like 40 of these. Just get her familiar with standing on stages, looking at people in the eye. We'll put her in theaters in the spring, slowly next spring. We'll ramp her up and we'll put her on an amphitheater tour in three years with somebody. And they're like, fuck you. And they go to the agent and puts them in front of 2,000 people. And they go out and fucking blow it. And it sucks. And everybody reviews it and the internet and all their TikTok fans review it. Start arguing with each other about how bad the show is. I see it happen to my business all the time.

• 1:21:15Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:21:15Speaker 06

  You know what I mean? And the ones who do it right are the ones who go out of, Jesse Murph, the one I did Wild Ones with.

• 1:21:20Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:21:20Speaker 06

  Example of doing it right. She could have came out the gate selling thousands of tickets. Man, they sent that girl over to Australia. They sent her to the UK to do clubs. They said, I think, I mean, they had her going and doing abroad shows before she was doing big domestic shows. Like, let her go figure it out. You know, like it was.

• 1:21:38Speaker 05

  Get your chops over there.

• 1:21:40Speaker 06

  And that also shows how smart she was.

• 1:21:42Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:21:43Speaker 06

  And she was in no rush. She was just like, yeah, I know, I know. What I love about Jesse is, she's like my little sister. She's so confident in what she does.

• 1:21:49Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:21:50Speaker 06

  She's like, I'm here. I just needed somebody to see I could do this. I'm gonna do this forever.

• 1:21:53Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:21:54Speaker 06

  That's how she thinks. So she wasn't in no rush. You know what I mean? She really cut her teeth. And even then, just when she comes out with me at MSG. I, I, I, after that night, I'm like, I tell my wife, I'm like, is that not a different person? From even just who came out with me at Jingle Ball MSG last year?

• 1:22:08Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:22:08Speaker 06

  She was like a completely different person. I was like, just, just watching her. You know, and she'll be in arenas probably next year if I had to guess, at least amphitheaters.

• 1:22:17Speaker 05

  Can I say just about his show without spoiling like what the show entails? One thing I'll say, and I was involved at the show. It's a stadium show in an arena, which I think the last time I made that comment was when we saw like Travis Scott. But just in terms of using the whole room where I'm like, you'll be at MetLife doing this same thing where there's multiple stages, there's. There's the runway that you're on and I'm like, this guy is using it. And it's not only that, we've seen enough shows at MSG now we can compare. It's, you could just play up against that end stage and you're just seeing a concert. You're blocking, like, meaning like you're, the positioning that he's going between songs and when he's moving around these runways to the audience, like the entire arena is change, his production is changing, things are lowering the, the,

• 1:23:01Speaker 05

  the skull, everything was just so perfectly planned that you're like, this, this guy's done this for, for years and he wouldn't waste, like, to do that level of production, you can't, you can't cheat that. Like, that's something where we can now keep on adding it, you're probably part of the production. You told us how many trucks you have coming into that, but that show, if anyone could see this on the road, spectacular. And, you're New York surprise.

• 1:23:24Speaker 06

  Away, but let me give everything.

• 1:23:26Speaker 05

  No, no, I didn't give nothing. You think that was giving away? You're all in store, we'll cover whatever, but I didn't give anything, but you could tell who came out.

• 1:23:34Speaker 06

  Yeah, this, oh yeah, no, MGK came out.

• 1:23:37Speaker 05

  Busta Bus.

• 1:23:39Speaker 06

  This is MSG, yeah, MSG, Busta Bus came out.

• 1:23:42Speaker 07

  Wow, and he can perform his ass off, dude.

• 1:23:45Speaker 06

  Listen, man, I have a rule that I don't watch a performer without stealing something. It's my personal rule, the good ones borrow, the great ones steal, that's my rule. If I come see you, stole something from you the other night, it's what I do. I'm coming, I'm watching, I'm stealing.

• 1:23:58Speaker 05

  I love it.

• 1:23:59Speaker 06

  And Bust was on my stage for four minutes and I stole something. That's how good he is.

• 1:24:03Speaker 05

  What'd he do?

• 1:24:03Speaker 06

  Four minutes.

• 1:24:04Speaker 05

  What'd he do?

• 1:24:04Speaker 06

  Four minutes, his opening was so old school hip hop. It was like, so I set it up, there's this really, my show is really a telling a story. But I'm telling two stories, right? But they're the same story in the end, the story of music, the story of the therapy of music and how we all grew up listening to different kind of music.

• 1:24:23Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:24:23Speaker 06

  And I do this by like playing my music and then I'll throw covers in there to show the crowd like, oh, you don't think you know country music, but. And then I have a trick where I'm like, you don't think you listen to hip hop, but I do it in the form of a story. Which I'll tell you off camera because I want you to punch it up.

• 1:24:39Speaker 06

  But I set it up and I, and I, and I set the story, you heard me set the story up and I'm like, yeah, and I grew up listening, I'm in New York, so I'm playing to it. I'm like, I grew up listening to 50 Cent, which I did. I grew up listening to Jay-Z. I grew up listening to Big L. I grew up listening to shit like, and then Bust comes out, right? And it comes out, it's like one of them hip hop like, hold up, turn the music up,

• 1:25:04Speaker 06

  Jelly roll, and every time the beat would break, he would just scream something else.

• 1:25:12Speaker 06

  And him and Spliff. And I'm watching, dude, I'm standing behind them, having, I got him on my leg now.

• 1:25:20Speaker 06

  And I'm like, that's why this dude is one of the greatest performers in hip hop history.

• 1:25:26Speaker 07

  What song did he come out to?

• 1:25:29Speaker 06

  Fuck, I don't remember the first record. It went in to break your neck.

• 1:25:37Speaker 06

  He did like a three minute, it was so hard to keep, he did a three minute medley. He did a four, four minute medley and I think I heard a piece of every one of his hits, it was crazy. He even put in the past the Cavaciade, but just the musical part as an interlude into another big. So it didn't even come in, it was just that.

• 1:25:56Speaker 06

  Don't this hit make my people wanna? And it was just so, and I was just like, man, what a way to do it.

• 1:26:00Speaker 07

  Dude, we were broke when I first moved to LA, so we would just go see rappers at like the late night shows, like Conan or Carson or whatever, Conan film, like it's in New York. But we saw him at like Carson Daly or something. The room is half full. He comes out, fucking destroys in a way, I've been to rap concerts, I haven't seen anything like this outside of Travis Scott. And I was, everybody, and then one girl walked out and she was like, man, I saw him at the House of Blues. Bottles were literally shaking on the bar, just from how much everybody was jumping. And he was, he's crazy performer. You have no clue.

• 1:26:29Speaker 05

  Has anyone come to the shows that like, it blew your mind, like your manager was like, by the way Jelly, this person's gonna be in attendance tonight? What the fuck?

• 1:26:36Speaker 06

  Oh, that's a good one. I don't think nobody that I didn't see coming, like as far as like, you know, everybody I'd already kind of built a relationship with, so nobody kind of surprised me. But I'm still surprised anytime anybody comes to my show. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm still like, oh, y'all know I do this. But I think anytime an athlete comes out is always a little different for us, because

• 1:26:58Speaker 05

  Of course.

• 1:26:59Speaker 06

  There's a lot of synergy with me and y'all, a lot of synergy with like, anything on this side of art.

• 1:27:03Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:27:04Speaker 06

  But I don't have as much synergy on that side. You know what I mean? So like, I still get excited every time Jimmy Butler posts one of my songs.

• 1:27:11Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:27:12Speaker 06

  Like, the kid in me is just like, it's fucking crazy. And he posts me like, once a month.

• 1:27:15Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:27:16Speaker 06

  You know what I mean? But it still doesn't get any less exciting.

• 1:27:18Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:27:19Speaker 06

  You know, that kind of stuff. So like, a couple of actors that are starting to kind of come around to what I do has been cool.

• 1:27:24Speaker 05

  Oh, that's awesome.

• 1:27:25Speaker 06

  But it's been, it's been pretty cool. I think even like, Bus agreeing to come sing with me was really, really special. Even Post, you gave like, his own section of the show. Like, he had his songs and the ones he has with you, right? Yeah, we did our song, and then we did, uh, yeah, no, we did a country song again, and then we did one of his. I love Post, man. That dude is-

• 1:27:42Speaker 07

  Post is another one I'd love to have on this couch.

• 1:27:44Speaker 06

  Dude, he'll go do it.

• 1:27:45Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:27:46Speaker 06

  I'll put y'all on the text tonight.

• 1:27:47Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:27:47Speaker 07

  Let's do that. I gotta talk, I might have been a Cowboy fan.

• 1:27:49Speaker 06

  That's a, that's a, that's a done, that's the easiest connection I'll ever make. That dude is the most, people in Nashville go, Jelly Roll's one of the nicest guys ever, until they meet Post Malone. Jelly Roll's kind of an asshole. Post Malone is dead sweet of the dude.

• 1:28:04Speaker 05

  Well, we did Crypto.

• 1:28:05Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:28:05Speaker 05

  He pulled up and he, uh, and he did a few songs. It was pretty awesome.

• 1:28:09Speaker 06

  That's just his fucking personality, dude. That dude is fucking, he don't, he is like, he don't care, is what makes him special.

• 1:28:17Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:28:17Speaker 06

  Like, we're backstage and I still play like it's a bar. I know it's an arena.

• 1:28:21Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:28:21Speaker 06

  But, man, me and Post didn't talk about what we were doing until 20 minutes before the show.

• 1:28:25Speaker 05

  Oh, that's fire.

• 1:28:26Speaker 06

  We didn't have one conversation about that.

• 1:28:27Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:28:28Speaker 06

  And I'm like, yo, what about like, let's do this cover? He's like, oh, I was like, the first thing I said when I seen him in the hallway, I'm like, you cool with just fucking around? He's like, yeah. I was like, I'll see you later then. Right then, I knew it wasn't nothing to worry about. I was like, I'll just go talk to this dude later. And, uh, and I went, I was just like, yo, let's just go fuck around, let's do this cover and do this. And I was like, if I end up wanting to keep you out for this record, will you stay? He was like, yeah, I'll stay. And sure enough, I was like, fuck, we gotta do this record. It's his second biggest song in the world right now. Him and, uh, uh, that I had some help with, him and Morgan. I was like, I can't have you at this show and have, have some help with the second biggest song in the world right now. We don't do it?

• 1:29:00Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:29:00Speaker 06

  You know what I mean? He's like, you'll do Morgan's part? I was like, hell no. I was like, I'll butcher it. I'll do the hook and the bridge. He was like, all right, cool.

• 1:29:08Speaker 03

  Do you have like any insight or opinion on like the whole drama with Beyonce not getting nominated for any country awards?

• 1:29:15Speaker 06

  Man, this is a slippery slope too. And I'll hang here with you because I'm willing to with my friends.

• 1:29:23Speaker 06

  I think that the body of art was incredible. There's no denying that like always take, take all politics out of it before we even talk about those. What did the art actually say? Was it good? Right? And the record was good.

• 1:29:41Speaker 06

  I don't know if it was Beyonce's best record. You know what I mean? It didn't make me feel the way even Renaissance made me feel as a full body of work. But there was two or three songs on there that I thought could be country song of the year for sure.

• 1:29:53Speaker 06

  What she did with Jolene Alone to me could have been was just unbelievable. You know, and how much Dolly loved it. To me, that's the real tale, right? If Dolly loves it, it's a big deal. So my argument starts with the art. My argument is, yeah, I think she should be nominated because the art was worthy of being nominated. The flip side of the argument, and this isn't my argument, so I don't want to get crucified or nailed to this cross. Is that Nashville is a small community that is trying to keep country music as a boundary list genre. And I know boundary list seems like, well, that's the opposite of not putting Beyonce in it. But meaning like they never allowed country to get put in subgenres like rock did. So like they've kind of like country is one of the last genres left that you could just say there's a country music concert happening.

• 1:30:37Speaker 06

  And a certain group of people will still just show up. You know what I mean? Like it don't really matter. It's like, you know what I mean? Like you could say there's a pop concert happening and somebody's going, who's going to be there?

• 1:30:48Speaker 03

  Got it.

• 1:30:48Speaker 06

  They could say, hey, man, there's a, there's a country concert happening down the street. And people will kind of just blindly go based on the consistency of country music. That's being ran by the town of Nashville, my city, where I'm from. But this is being ran from the industry. It's like how, you know, like all the record labels are in New York for hip hop. All of them are for pop in LA or you know, how it used to be, whatever. Now it's kind of everywhere, but these people looked at it, the people who are the 20,000 registered, 30,000 registered voters. Like the Grammys only has that many voters or 60,000 or something, a hundred thousand, whatever it is, right? These people that are in that, look, they are only really hip to what's happening in Nashville.

• 1:31:28Speaker 06

  Right? So it's not as malicious as one thinks. It's not like in my mind, from what I know of these people, the few, I don't know all 16,000 of the voters neither, right? Or I'd fucking win more. But it's like, the ones I know are just more like, I just, they just missed it. Because to them, it was more of like, you know, it was a big TikTok moment, the Texas Hold'em song. You know, where like, in country music, there's, you know, we have, there's, there's three award shows, bare minimum, four really now, a year that really matter, like to us as a community, like, the ACMs, which is the Academy of Country Musics, the CMAs, which is the biggest night of country music, this is the one that's coming up, it's the Country Music Association, I won the Best New Artist last year. That was the speech. That was that speech. That is the one, though.

• 1:32:12Speaker 06

  That's like, that's a really big deal. I'm nominated for Entertainer of the Year this year. This is a huge, huge honor. And for some of these people, I think they just didn't see the visibility of the album. Not that the album wasn't huge, and it wasn't impactful, or a great piece of art, they just didn't see the visibility of it. She didn't tour it. It wasn't like, Morgan Wallen is like, out here selling out three stadiums a night, like Beyonce did for Renaissance. Now, had the same campaign happened for Renaissance that happened with this album, I would have stood up and been like, this is wrong. You know what I mean? But like, to them, it was more of like, and this is, I'm not, I can't speak for all 16,000, and this isn't how I feel. Just what I've heard, is like, to them, it just felt like an eclectic art piece to try to broaden the horizons of the space. And they felt like that

• 1:32:55Speaker 06

  a nod that's even bigger, some people in this town feel like, what's even bigger than giving her a nod was, that Shaboozie broke by being on her album, and he's up for Best New Artist of the Year, and looking like a winner. And he's having a huge year at country radio, and a huge year at all the country award shows, and like, he's in Nashville, in the community, writing.

• 1:33:14Speaker 07

  But he's embedded in the culture.

• 1:33:16Speaker 06

  Yeah, he loves the culture of Nashville.

• 1:33:17Speaker 07

  Whereas Beyonce is a little bit more of an outsider.

• 1:33:21Speaker 06

  And I'm not saying, I don't think that makes it right that she wasn't nominated.

• 1:33:24Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:33:24Speaker 06

  I want to be clear about that.

• 1:33:25Speaker 07

  Is what you're saying.

• 1:33:26Speaker 06

  Yeah, Beyonce. Thank you, Schultz.

• 1:33:28Speaker 07

  No, I get that.

• 1:33:29Speaker 06

  But I'm giving you.

• 1:33:30Speaker 07

  Gentrifier, if you will.

• 1:33:31Speaker 06

  I only want to be the guy who takes the wheel.

• 1:33:33Speaker 07

  Using the art form, and yeah, I got you. A Kardashian.

• 1:33:36Speaker 06

  That you got it.

• 1:33:36Speaker 07

  Got it. Got it. I got it.

• 1:33:39Speaker 06

  You get what I'm saying?

• 1:33:40Speaker 07

  I got, I got. I get the point you're trying to make. I wouldn't say any of those things. I think she's a brilliant, talented artist. I love Lemonade. But it is, you know, I get, I get, these are the tough things that you gotta, you gotta work on.

• 1:33:54Speaker 06

  No, I get it, because it's the same in the film.

• 1:33:56Speaker 05

  And the Academy.

• 1:33:57Speaker 06

  Nobody asks.

• 1:33:59Speaker 05

  Go, go, go.

• 1:34:00Speaker 03

  I'm saying it's the same, it's the same thing that applies like why people see like the nominations. There's 10,000 people in the Academy and like I, I would guess how, what percentage of that's like over 60? That's just been focused on like what hollow gives you, what wins at some of the film festivals. So you have to think who's coming from the outside.

• 1:34:16Speaker 06

  Yeah, I wasn't upset when I lost at the Grammys this year because I knew that to the Grammy audience, I was new.

• 1:34:21Speaker 05

  Right.

• 1:34:22Speaker 06

  A lot of these people didn't know I was a human till they seen me on the bill.

• 1:34:25Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:34:25Speaker 06

  And then they see me at the best new artists like performance and then they see me in the building and they felt my, my spirit. And now I feel like next year I might have a better, I feel like every year I'm building a better chance towards it. You know what I mean?

• 1:34:36Speaker 05

  There might, there might have also been a perception where it's just like, if you're the size and success story, just the magnitude of Beyonce and you pick any other genre to create music in, you're also like one of the most talented human beings ever. You pick any other genre, it's gonna be popular. Like if she decides to do techno, it's gonna be a number one, like whatever genre she decides to do it. So maybe there's that feeling where it's like, anybody that big that decides to do country is gonna have the number one album. They have to be embedded in the culture and really invest time in the culture to be considered like one of these artists.

• 1:35:12Speaker 07

  Impactful or was it just Beyonce dropping an album?

• 1:35:14Speaker 05

  Because that, she's at the size where she can't be avoided. Like if she decides to put out a rap album, number one, like anything she puts out is number one.

• 1:35:20Speaker 06

  A minute then, I was on record early about this, I'm glad it stood the test of time. I, of course, obviously, and there's gonna be country music fans that are gonna be like, you wasn't welcome here. But it's like, I was so glad she was here. I welcomed her with open arms. Like I was like.

• 1:35:35Speaker 05

  I think it's great for country.

• 1:35:36Speaker 06

  Same thing I felt about Post. Like you're telling me.

• 1:35:39Speaker 05

  Great for country.

• 1:35:40Speaker 06

  Do you know how hard it was to get people to like, especially in the world of music? People would just fly right over Nashville to Memphis. Just didn't even think about it. Whether it was hip hop, blues, soul, anything, Memphis had all the culture. I mean Nashville just frog jumped over. Anything that was like country music in itself, country culture, like what Beyonce did for fucking cowboy hat sales? Is unheard of. What? No, no, listen, man, this is a true story. I went to the, um, there's a, right there on Sunset. I wish I could remember his name. My boy Mous was with me that night. He's a cowboy for really rides horses, my dude that you thought looked like the crud guy.

• 1:36:19Speaker 06

  He uh, he went to this shop and it's like an old school famous spot on Sunset that sells leather belts, leather hats, it's like an old cowboy store right there on Sunset. And he went in there and the guy says, he's known the guy forever, the guy's been in the store 20, 30 years or something. Guy goes, he goes, how's business? He goes, better than ever.

• 1:36:34Speaker 05

  Hmm.

• 1:36:34Speaker 06

  He goes, really? What's happening? He said two things, Morgan Wallen and Beyonce.

• 1:36:41Speaker 06

  Literally, that's, that's exactly like, and this is an old man's perspective who probably, you know, doesn't know what's going on in the world. He just knows that a lot more motherfuckers showed up to this store in the last 12 months.

• 1:36:51Speaker 05

  Do you remember when Run DMC and Aerosmith did Walk This Way? Like, that's a- Adidas, yeah. What's that? No, and then Adidas. Adidas things went crazy, but also just, it's a great moment for hip hop. It's also a great moment for rock, but this is a time where rock was the dominant form. And then you do a song with this new up and coming, exciting uh, genre of music. And it's a smash fucking hit. You don't think that that's gonna help Run DMC? Now, I'm not saying that country isn't absolutely, it's probably the most popular right now. But when you take one of the most popular artists of all time and she decides to embrace the genre, that's great for the genre.

• 1:37:29Speaker 06

  Huge. And I think she should have been nominated for that alone.

• 1:37:32Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:37:32Speaker 06

  You know what I mean? Um, and that's why I said, but I get, I know how Nashville looked. I think Nashville just missed it. I don't think it was malicious. That's what I will say. I think it was malicious in the miss, like, they missed it, like-

• 1:37:44Speaker 05

  Unjust.

• 1:37:44Speaker 06

  Yeah, like, yeah, like y'all kind of, you know, I mean, but I don't think they missed it like, I don't think it was a turner back to them, her thing.

• 1:37:51Speaker 05

  I wonder if-

• 1:37:51Speaker 06

  And I think what she did and her impact is already being proven.

• 1:37:54Speaker 05

  Do you see like the, the politics of Nashville changing now that country's become like the dominant art form? Like are people trying to like buy streams like within Nashville in a way that you haven't seen in the past? Like, has the business corrupted?

• 1:38:06Speaker 06

  No, no, no. I think that what's, it's just expanded. The business of Nashville's just gotten bigger. Uh, with artists like Beyonce, artists like Post. Now, Post came to Nashville and did the whole Nashville thing. It was, he uh, the, the city just, just he, I think he spent that whole album, I spent two or three months there working on that record. Um, but you just see the business of Nashville getting bigger, man. What I love about it is seeing country getting mainstream moments. Like when M, when I was on M's album, that was like huge for us as a genre. Cause like for so many years, we like-

• 1:38:41Speaker 06

  I'll never forget when T I got on Brantley Gilbert's Bottoms Up remix. And I was like, this was two thousand and six.

• 1:38:49Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:38:50Speaker 06

  And I was like, no fucking way. Oh, rap people know country people or country. You know what I mean? Like, it was like, no way. Like, so for that to have went from that to me being on M's album, Morgan being on Dirk's album, Morgan being on Money Bag Yo's record. You know what I'm saying? Like, these kind of, these are the crossovers that are like, I think are super cool. Like, whenever I see Laney go rock with a pop girl. You know what I'm saying? I'm just like, kick ass Laney, kick ass.

• 1:39:17Speaker 07

  What's that wagon like in person?

• 1:39:19Speaker 06

  You asked me that the last time, two years later.

• 1:39:22Speaker 05

  You didn't ask her all the time.

• 1:39:23Speaker 07

  Bro, yeah.

• 1:39:25Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:39:26Speaker 07

  We need to see that before the Ozempic gets to Nashville, bro.

• 1:39:30Speaker 07

  Cause that thing look crazy. There's like a few images of it where it just looks absurd. I'd like to see her shit backstage. Jesus.

• 1:39:40Speaker 06

  With all due respect.

• 1:39:43Speaker 07

  With all due respect.

• 1:39:44Speaker 05

  I'm a married man. And obviously there's like sexual.

• 1:39:47Speaker 06

  The cheetah print pants or something like that. This guy is so funny.

• 1:39:53Speaker 06

  Did it happen to you though?

• 1:39:54Speaker 04

  Which one was she?

• 1:39:56Speaker 06

  Can you remind me? You know what I love about y'all and about pop culture is that's two years old. And as soon as I brought up Lady Wilson's name, both of y'all were like, what's up with the wagon? Talk to me about the thing.

• 1:40:07Speaker 07

  Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

• 1:40:10Speaker 06

  Oh, she got new ones too.

• 1:40:12Speaker 05

  Nah, she don't got new ones. This is impossible.

• 1:40:13Speaker 07

  Miles has been having a question for an hour. What do you want to ask Miles?

• 1:40:16Speaker 05

  Upcoming country artists that you find right now that you're like, that's the next big one. Uh, me and Mark this year listened to a lot of Red Clay Strays.

• 1:40:23Speaker 07

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:40:23Speaker 05

  Oh, I met those guys.

• 1:40:24Speaker 07

  Fucking awesome.

• 1:40:25Speaker 05

  Yeah, we're at the Cellar. They're big comedy fans. Shout out Red Clay Strays, man. They're awesome. And they're like, great, great hang. Yeah, yeah.

• 1:40:32Speaker 07

  Oh, wow. That's awesome.

• 1:40:33Speaker 05

  They had a show here recently.

• 1:40:34Speaker 06

  They're huge. I love, I love the, uh.

• 1:40:36Speaker 05

  They live in Alabama.

• 1:40:37Speaker 06

  Treaty Oak Revival's another one.

• 1:40:38Speaker 05

  Okay, yeah. I'm trying to see who to put on the, on the Spotify.

• 1:40:41Speaker 06

  If you like the Red Clay Strays, you'll love Treaty Oak Revival. They're real fun. Their shows are super fun and rowdy. It's kind of got that Red Clay Stray vibe.

• 1:40:47Speaker 07

  Tesky Brothers?

• 1:40:48Speaker 06

  Um, that and her.

• 1:40:49Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:40:50Speaker 06

  No, you'll hit me.

• 1:40:51Speaker 07

  Oh, they're awesome.

• 1:40:52Speaker 06

  Yeah, you'll hit me.

• 1:40:53Speaker 07

  Oh, you're gonna love them.

• 1:40:53Speaker 06

  Uh, there's this kid, I wouldn't say he's new or unknown.

• 1:40:58Speaker 05

  What about, what about, uh, Malone Black?

• 1:41:00Speaker 06

  Never heard of Malone Black.

• 1:41:03Speaker 06

  Are y'all fucking with me?

• 1:41:04Speaker 05

  No, Malone Black.

• 1:41:07Speaker 06

  I'm getting, I'm getting trolled.

• 1:41:11Speaker 06

  Tell me about Malone Black.

• 1:41:12Speaker 05

  Malone Black is one of the greatest country artists of all time.

• 1:41:15Speaker 06

  You like, uh, Zack Top?

• 1:41:19Speaker 05

  You don't know about Malone Black?

• 1:41:21Speaker 06

  Who?

• 1:41:23Speaker 05

  Shut up, Dove. Malone Black dick in your mouth, that's it.

• 1:41:30Speaker 05

  Your pity who really fucking put that off right there.

• 1:41:33Speaker 06

  Compliment.

• 1:41:34Speaker 05

  Anyway, I want to know who else, who else, who else?

• 1:41:36Speaker 06

  Zack Top.

• 1:41:37Speaker 05

  Zack Top.

• 1:41:38Speaker 06

  You heard his kid, "I sleep like a baby."

• 1:41:41Speaker 05

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:41:41Speaker 06

  "I never show up late."

• 1:41:43Speaker 05

  No. Dylan Marlowe, that seems cool.

• 1:41:46Speaker 06

  Who?

• 1:41:47Speaker 05

  Dylan Marlowe.

• 1:41:48Speaker 06

  I love Dylan Marlowe.

• 1:41:49Speaker 05

  Yeah, he's on.

• 1:41:49Speaker 06

  I love Dylan Marlowe. So, listen, he's got a brother, there's two of them, it's a Dylan and a Cameron.

• 1:41:53Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 1:41:54Speaker 06

  And I always get in trouble for this, and I still, I double down on it every time, because I'm a dumbass. One of them is handsome and one of them can sing.

• 1:42:02Speaker 06

  So, you answer me this question. Is Dylan Marlowe handsome? Tell the truth.

• 1:42:08Speaker 05

  Yeah, he's handsome. Nah, he can sing good, it sound like he can sing good.

• 1:42:11Speaker 06

  It sounds like he can sing good.

• 1:42:12Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:42:13Speaker 06

  Okay, so he's not the handsome one.

• 1:42:14Speaker 05

  I haven't seen the brother.

• 1:42:14Speaker 06

  Okay, no, no, no, he is the handsome one, you're right.

• 1:42:18Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:42:18Speaker 06

  Now, look up Cameron Marlowe.

• 1:42:20Speaker 05

  Damn, so he got looks and he can sing, the other one's just...

• 1:42:24Speaker 06

  And I don't know that they're kin to each other, by the way.

• 1:42:27Speaker 05

  Oh, this guy, this guy's handsome. Nah, that's...

• 1:42:29Speaker 06

  No, you see, that's the one, that's the one that can sing.

• 1:42:33Speaker 06

  And I'm not saying the other guy, first of all, I know them both and they're both awesome. Cameron and Dylan are great, I do confuse them and I'm sorry. But I smoke pot. But I can name both of their songs right now, because he's got that "Here's to the boys back home." That dude's right, he's a hit, that kid's gonna be a hit. Dylan is, Cameron is the other Marlowe, and he's just got a really big... Cameron's a good singer, but this kid has got a different, like...

• 1:42:59Speaker 05

  Alright.

• 1:43:00Speaker 06

  We're all singers and we know who the singers are. He's one of the singers. Does that make sense? Like, y'all, you know, like, we know who the singers are, this dude is...

• 1:43:08Speaker 05

  That's cool, they don't look alike.

• 1:43:09Speaker 06

  Now, but Cameron, Cameron's got hits, though. That dude, that dude's a great writer, but follow this guy too, but follow both the Marlowes, they're great.

• 1:43:16Speaker 05

  Jelly, um, I want to say I'm so proud of you and I'm so grateful to have you as a friend, and I just cannot wait to see you go even crazier and bigger, and, you know, we're gonna be along for the ride, man, so, uh, we'll see you at Stagecoach.

• 1:43:28Speaker 06

  But we'll also see you, you know, fulfilling all your dreams. It's been awesome to be here to watch it. God bless you, my brother. Love you, brother. Thank y'all, boys. JuniorGirl615.com. Still got a few shows left. Uh, album out now. Beautifully Broken, please. Stream, stream, stream. Love y'all.

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