CEO Killer & Jay Z Are INNOCENT

YERRRR, we're back and finding out who is innocent and who is not! Luigi has been arrested, but things seem fishy. Jay Z got accusations, but not criminally. Daniel Penny is criminally officially free. Crypto is at 100k. And now New Jersey has aliens? All that and more on this week's episode of Flagrant. INDULGE 00:00 Luigi’s a piece + Salt of the earth CEO 04:53 Mastermind Mangione at McDonald’s 16:13 Hottest hitman reps himself in court 17:11 Ready for Central healthcare + Luigi’s personal revenge? 21:59 Going public, Fiduciary responsibilities & rich shareholders 29:22 Ugly people make colder cities 33:17 NY girls are hard, Spanish women & Red capes 35:13 Garry vs Rakhmanov, 3 week notice + Fights make Dana cry 43:13 DL Baiting Clicks, Death threats + Metaphors 53:59 K. Dot ‘fan’ paid protest, Short king music + Hawaiians DGAF 01:02:07 Crypto went 100k + Hawk rush got Alex 01:05:45 Tough week for Jay-Z + 50 Cent back on comms 01:07:22 Super Bowl halftime show + Battle points 01:14:46 Jay-Z VMA allegations + Civil vs Criminal lawsuit 01:24:50 Hov MIL “hacked”, Zesty statements + Miles ‘fast’ food 01:31:02 Free Jay + Kendrick’s South Park inconsistency 01:32:09 Daniel Penny Goes Free 01:49:26 “We all late” + Black people make NY funny 01:58:25 Unidentified aircraft in Jersey 02:01:13 Syria, Neo-Cons win or West just retreating? 02:05:27 Jesus’ trip in the M. E. + Terrorists or rebels? 02:12:20 Make Mexico 53rd state + Dov Brazilian obsession Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• 1:15Speaker 04

  What's up everybody? Welcome to Flagrant. We gotta start off this episode today. Big shout out to Luigi Mangio on the PEDs. Look at that bod.

• 1:22Speaker 05

  Oh, you's a hater.

• 1:23Speaker 04

  You never had abs like that.

• 1:24Speaker 05

  You just never had abs like that.

• 1:26Speaker 04

  I had abs like that. Not off to nothing. I thought it's because I'm pale, so the sun doesn't hit it different. And you guys, it hits a different. This guy's about to be the most beloved cold-blooded murderer.

• 1:34Speaker 06

  This is White Prison Babe. This is White Prison Babe.

• 1:38Speaker 04

  I mean, he's a handsome guy.

• 1:40Speaker 06

  Handsome guy. I was laughing trying to hate. You were hating.

• 1:42Speaker 05

  I was laughing because Miles was so quick to put it out.

• 1:47Speaker 04

  Before we, before we talk about how great this guy is, can we just talk about how horrible the CEO was? Because that would give us a little bit more.

• 1:54Speaker 06

  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:55Speaker 04

  So, do you guys know anything about the CEO?

• 1:57Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:58Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 1:59Speaker 05

  Really nice guy.

• 2:00Speaker 04

  Okay, tell me about it.

• 2:01Speaker 05

  No, just salt of the earth.

• 2:02Speaker 04

  Salt of the earth, you know, family man, golden retriever.

• 2:03Speaker 05

  No, it's, it's interesting. Some people pointed out, like, I think even Bill Burr said on his podcast, he's like, "These guys are gangsters."

• 2:08Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:08Speaker 05

  Like, they sit, like, yeah, they- They have families, da da da, like they're putting in basically policies within the organization to withhold coverage from people.

• 2:17Speaker 06

  Of course.

• 2:17Speaker 05

  Like all these like healthcare companies, in order for them to make money, they have to deny coverage. That's like the way it works and they're publicly traded companies and the consumer mission is like, okay, we're gonna help the people, we're gonna actually like help people that need care.

• 2:28Speaker 04

  So a CEO's job is to remove as much coverage as possible.

• 2:30Speaker 06

  Absolutely.

• 2:31Speaker 04

  So that you can make the most money for the company.

• 2:32Speaker 05

  Because you have a fiduciary responsibility to the shareholders of your publicly traded company.

• 2:36Speaker 04

  So to deny people who need healthcare.

• 2:38Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 2:39Speaker 04

  Healthcare is how you make the company profitable.

• 2:41Speaker 05

  Precisely.

• 2:41Speaker 04

  While at the same time getting them to continue to pay.

• 2:44Speaker 06

  Yes.

• 2:44Speaker 05

  Precisely.

• 2:44Speaker 04

  So convince you to pay the money and then not help them when they need it.

• 2:47Speaker 05

  Exactly.

• 2:48Speaker 04

  Kill that motherfucker. Yeah, I'm just saying, I'm just saying, on, kill that motherfucker.

• 2:53Speaker 06

  Jesus, dog.

• 2:54Speaker 04

  Kill that motherfucker. Actually, don't kill him. You know what you should do? You should make sweet love to him. That's what you should do. No, what we should have done is made sweet love to him.

• 3:01Speaker 05

  I wish.

• 3:01Speaker 04

  We should just make sweet love to him, man.

• 3:03Speaker 05

  I would let this guy fuck me.

• 3:04Speaker 04

  No, no, not this guy.

• 3:05Speaker 05

  I would let him fuck me.

• 3:06Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. He just made sweet love to you. But what if we make sweet love to the CEO of United Healthcare and all the healthcare CEOs? What if they get made sweet love to?

• 3:16Speaker 06

  You know what? Then when he goes to the psychiatrist for his sexual trauma, deny the claim.

• 3:19Speaker 04

  Deny it. Deny, deny, deny. Deal with that shit. You enjoyed it. I want your cheeks up on the wall. I wanna cast your cheeks. I wanna get a mold of your cheeks. I wanna put them up on the wall.

• 3:29Speaker 05

  I don't think you're allowed to make jokes about.

• 3:31Speaker 04

  Wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

• 3:32Speaker 05

  You're taking it too far.

• 3:33Speaker 04

  I'm just gonna make a mold of his cheeks and put it up on the wall like a deer head.

• 3:39Speaker 06

  You're gonna mount it?

• 3:40Speaker 04

  That's, I'm gonna mount the cheeks on the wall.

• 3:43Speaker 06

  Couple, couple different ways.

• 3:44Speaker 04

  All the cheeks, I gotta, I gotta have a room in my, in my house where I put all the cheeks that I made sweet love to.

• 3:49Speaker 05

  He's a little stocky, so those are some heavy cheeks right there.

• 3:52Speaker 04

  We're gonna go to a professional. We're gonna go to a real, we're gonna go to a real mounter. You know, we're gonna go, someone who deals with big animals like an elk or something like that. Yo, you're telling me you can't make sweet love to a United Healthcare CEO who's trying to deny coverage to people who need it?

• 4:10Speaker 05

  I mean...

• 4:11Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, of course you could. Enough people hate him, so I think...

• 4:13Speaker 04

  Enough people hate him, he's totally fine. Like, what if we found out instead of killing him, someone just buttfucked him on the street at Times Square? Bring it back to the 80s.

• 4:22Speaker 05

  An Elmo? Dude, if an Elmo fucked this healthcare CEO...

• 4:25Speaker 04

  Elmo, zip, brought out that Mexican dick and just buttfucked the United Healthcare CEO.

• 4:30Speaker 05

  That would be fire.

• 4:31Speaker 04

  It would. Tworos for everybody.

• 4:34Speaker 05

  But yeah, there's a whole bunch of shit like this. Like, I'm pretty sure even during COVID, all these hospitals went bankrupt and they had to roll them all up into one thing, so now they're all owned by private equity. All these doctors are getting surgeries they don't really need to do, and they're getting kickbacks from the fucking, you know, medical sales companies.

• 4:48Speaker 04

  It's a very unethical job to have.

• 4:50Speaker 05

  There's another one that actually just got repealed, so technically this guy already did one good thing so far. You know, despite killing people, which is bad, he did one thing.

• 4:57Speaker 06

  Killing person. We're talking about people, person. Yo, he killed way less people than that healthcare CEO.

• 5:02Speaker 05

  So did a death count. They said he killed, they accumulated over his time as CEO in this specific position, it was like 40,000 people or something like that.

• 5:10Speaker 04

  Have died because he denied them coverage.

• 5:12Speaker 05

  This is what they're estimating, yes. And it's a little indirect, but yeah.

• 5:15Speaker 04

  That's a genocide.

• 5:17Speaker 06

  That is a genocide, dawg.

• 5:18Speaker 04

  That's a genocide.

• 5:19Speaker 06

  He killed more people than Osama.

• 5:20Speaker 04

  Yo, 40,000 people? I'm looking at Dove right now. Hold on, hold on.

• 5:26Speaker 06

  That's 13 Osamas, dawg. That's crazy.

• 5:29Speaker 04

  That is a genocide, man. Shout out to Alex's jacket. That's a genocide.

• 5:33Speaker 05

  Oh, this shit is fly. Get out of here.

• 5:36Speaker 04

  Oh, I thought you got to Palestine.

• 5:38Speaker 05

  What? Oh no, it says...

• 5:40Speaker 04

  Oh, it's, what does it say?

• 5:42Speaker 06

  How is this not, it's black and white.

• 5:44Speaker 05

  No, no, it's got text on it.

• 5:46Speaker 06

  I didn't know that.

• 5:48Speaker 04

  Thank you. The culture individuals get it.

• 5:52Speaker 04

  Do you know what's happening in Israel and Palestine right now?

• 5:54Speaker 06

  I have no clue, to be honest with you. I got no clue, to be honest with you. I just know I'm not on Dove's side.

• 5:59Speaker 04

  You're not on Dove's side? Fair enough. And I thought the Indians were.

• 6:03Mark Gagnon?

  You had billions of people, but uh.

• 6:05Speaker 04

  Anywho, can we get back to Mangione? This is my man Mangione. So he is the most beloved murderer in the world right now.

• 6:13Speaker 06

  In history, maybe.

• 6:14Speaker 04

  In history. He killed a guy that is responsible for potentially forty thousand deaths allegedly. Let's just put out the allegedly out.

• 6:19Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 6:20Speaker 04

  So, um, and a guy who willingly took that job. He's even smiling in that photo.

• 6:25Speaker 06

  No, that, yeah, that's Luigi though.

• 6:26Speaker 04

  No, no, that photo right there.

• 6:28Speaker 06

  Where?

• 6:29Speaker 05

  Yeah, this old, old Bry guy in the bottom left.

• 6:31Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 6:33Speaker 05

  But yeah, just wild. And then his Twitter's still up.

• 6:35Speaker 04

  And is he, is he getting after it?

• 6:37Speaker 05

  Hundreds of thousands of followers.

• 6:38Speaker 04

  He needs that burner phone. How do we get him a phone in jail?

• 6:41Speaker 05

  Yeah, I mean, he's, he's gonna be able to get one. I mean, you wanna know how they get it to him?

• 6:46Speaker 05

  Is that what your question is? Cause I can explain the logistical.

• 6:50Speaker 04

  Please do.

• 6:50Speaker 05

  The logistical.

• 6:51Speaker 04

  Please expound. Okay, tell us, tell us. Tell us how they do that.

• 6:56Speaker 05

  Okay, I mean, you basically gotta, you gotta guess someone.

• 6:58Speaker 04

  Make sweet love to the phone.

• 7:00Speaker 05

  Have you heard of folks?

• 7:01Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, this is the same thing.

• 7:02Speaker 05

  It's basically like folks.

• 7:04Speaker 06

  That's fire, man.

• 7:06Speaker 05

  Luigi's been tweeting stuff. He's, he's been active. Uh, he's a big fan of Dr. Huberman.

• 7:11Speaker 04

  He tweeted some like.

• 7:12Speaker 05

  Yeah, that was his last tweet.

• 7:13Speaker 04

  I was going through his, I was going through his tweets and I was like, damn, he really wanna us. Everybody he watches listens to. Like, there's no way he hasn't watched an episode of Flagrant and heard us be like, yo, we gotta get after these rich motherfuckers.

• 7:26Speaker 06

  You might be a Pedrooni Mangione.

• 7:27Speaker 04

  I think he's a Pedrooni Mangione. Shout out you.

• 7:30Speaker 06

  Now, do we actually think it was this guy for sure? It's a lot of weird shit going on, it seems. I'm not normally, what's funny is.

• 7:37Speaker 04

  Oh, do we have a conspiracy?

• 7:38Speaker 06

  What's funny is the first time that black people are like, they got the guy. What you talking about conspiracy?

• 7:43Speaker 04

  That's funny.

• 7:43Speaker 06

  But then, cause they found him in a McDonald's. He had the gun, the silencer. He had a fucking manifesto. Obviously, you're gonna carry those things.

• 7:50Speaker 04

  Who keeps a gun, the silencer, and the manifesto at the same time?

• 7:52Speaker 06

  Yeah, across state lines, days later.

• 7:55Speaker 04

  Nah, bro, that's not, that's not him.

• 7:57Mark Gagnon?

  That's cause we, we think y'all all look alike. All these pictures look the same. That look like the dude.

• 8:02Speaker 05

  I mean, yeah, this is hilarious.

• 8:04Mark Gagnon?

  He got a nods on him. He, that nose, noses.

• 8:07Speaker 05

  People are looking at the eyebrows and they're like, dude, he's got a unibrow.

• 8:11Speaker 06

  Didn't he grow his eyebrows before he killed the CEO? Wouldn't that be funny?

• 8:13Mark Gagnon?

  That's fire.

• 8:15Speaker 06

  Artheflex shit?

• 8:16Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 8:17Speaker 06

  Casually?

• 8:18Speaker 05

  Like, that is really the question. It's like, how Italian is he that his unibrow grows back in three days?

• 8:22Speaker 04

  Nah, he got that. That growth is there. He's got great eyebrows, like stunning eyebrows.

• 8:26Speaker 05

  Yeah, these are thick, dude.

• 8:27Mark Gagnon?

  You think he's on the propice? That's great head of hair.

• 8:30Speaker 06

  He's 26.

• 8:31Speaker 05

  Italian.

• 8:32Mark Gagnon?

  The guy's awesome.

• 8:34Speaker 05

  This guy's fucking awesome, right?

• 8:36Speaker 06

  He's awesome.

• 8:37Speaker 04

  Brought justice to that guy who killed 40,000 people.

• 8:39Speaker 06

  I can't wait to give to his GoFundMe.

• 8:40Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 8:41Speaker 06

  I'm just waiting for someone to start one.

• 8:42Speaker 05

  Yeah. So people are pointing out some things. They're like, okay, so he goes to PA, he gets recognized by McDonald's employee.

• 8:48Speaker 04

  Oh, sorry to interrupt you real quick. Didn't that guy who killed 40,000 people allegedly, didn't he also rug pull his own company? Didn't he sell a bunch of his own stock?

• 8:56Speaker 05

  He's being investigated for this basically like a, like a stock dump.

• 9:00Speaker 04

  Whoa, so he could have dumped stock from his own company?

• 9:02Speaker 05

  Is what I think that's what the investigation is.

• 9:04Speaker 04

  And that's almost like insider trading because you have knowledge of something that's gonna happen within the company.

• 9:07Mark Gagnon?

  Oh shit, he's Mr. Beast?

• 9:10Speaker 04

  Did he do a crypto scam? What in the Mr. Beast Hawk 2 Logan Paul is going on over here? This is insane.

• 9:19Speaker 05

  We gotta start crypto scamming. We really need to.

• 9:22Speaker 04

  Coffeezilla don't. He is joking about that.

• 9:24Speaker 05

  We need to.

• 9:25Speaker 04

  Coffee's on to you.

• 9:28Speaker 05

  You know what else is going to prison?

• 9:29Speaker 04

  Coffee should start watching Camp with Mark Gag. He's gonna be selling shitcoins and it's gonna be a problem, but he got nothing to do with us.

• 9:36Speaker 05

  What is the consequence?

• 9:37Mark Gagnon?

  Coffeezilla is scarier than this Q motherfucker.

• 9:40Speaker 05

  You make $50 million in coffee in one video? I mean, come on.

• 9:43Speaker 06

  That's not, I am, that's a valid point.

• 9:45Speaker 05

  50 mil?

• 9:49Speaker 04

  Sorry, Coffee. Get them suspenders ready. We're selling out.

• 9:54Speaker 04

  We'll cut them in. It'll be fun.

• 9:55Speaker 05

  All right. This guy's the ultimate chat is what people are pointing out. But he gets caught by a minimum wage employee at McDonald's.

• 10:03Speaker 06

  Wow.

• 10:03Speaker 05

  Is what the, what the allegation is.

• 10:05Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 10:05Speaker 05

  Which seems like, all right. And then he's caught in the McDonald's, like sitting there on his laptop with the gun and a manifesto, a 300 page manifesto and 10 grand in cash and foreign currency. And then he actually gets deposed. He goes into court in front of the judge yesterday.

• 10:20Speaker 04

  And then what does he say?

• 10:21Speaker 05

  And he goes, a couple of things. The money, that was planted on me.

• 10:26Speaker 05

  And uh.

• 10:27Speaker 04

  Oh, now it's funny, Al, huh? Cops been doing this to black people for years, but now it's funny what happens.

• 10:32Mark Gagnon?

  But they didn't have a fake ID, a gun and money. Like usually they just plant one like gram of crack on them.

• 10:38Speaker 04

  Well, when it's a white person, you need a lot of evidence.

• 10:44Speaker 04

  You barely need evidence.

• 10:47Speaker 04

  Some blind bitch came back, I think I saw him.

• 10:48Speaker 06

  Let me ask you this. You shoot a guy, you got foreign currency and you're ready to flee the country. You got the money and you're like, before that, let me go to Altoona, Pennsylvania and pull up at a McDonald's. Who the fuck is doing that?

• 11:00Speaker 04

  The McRib. When that McRib is.

• 11:03Speaker 06

  They got better McDonald's out in the rest of the world.

• 11:06Speaker 04

  Why would he go to Canada? Like if you gotta leave America.

• 11:09Speaker 06

  That's first. You go Canada, you fly off in Canada, whatever.

• 11:11Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, but workers at McDonald's don't snitch. Come on, Trump, don't snitch. He's a fraud, he's a fraud flipper.

• 11:18Speaker 04

  Yo, Trump, you know what Trump gotta do if he really wants to win over America? He gotta pardon this man.

• 11:23Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, that's fine. No, Biden needs to do that.

• 11:25Speaker 04

  If, wait, what?

• 11:27Mark Gagnon?

  Just come on, go out on a high.

• 11:31Speaker 04

  For real. If he pardons him.

• 11:33Mark Gagnon?

  Everybody's saying anything.

• 11:35Speaker 04

  Everyone will forget about his son.

• 11:37Speaker 06

  That makes complete sense.

• 11:38Speaker 04

  That's what I'm saying.

• 11:40Speaker 05

  No, that's fine.

• 11:41Speaker 06

  That's a PR flip.

• 11:42Speaker 04

  Hold up, we completely forget about Hunter. No, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on. So we completely forget about Hunter. You pardon this guy. What's the justification for pardoning him?

• 11:49Speaker 06

  He's a hero, American fucking hero.

• 11:51Speaker 04

  We need change.

• 11:51Mark Gagnon?

  He's a piece.

• 11:52Speaker 05

  Yeah. Yeah.

• 11:55Speaker 04

  It would have to be a federal court.

• 11:57Speaker 06

  He has to make its way there, so it's gotta be on Trump. It's not gonna happen in time.

• 11:59Mark Gagnon?

  He crossed state lines with a weapon.

• 12:01Speaker 04

  Yeah, that's true. That's very true. The murder charge will be federal, I guess.

• 12:04Speaker 06

  But can you do it that soon? Doesn't have like, uh, go to trial or whatever the fuck?

• 12:07Mark Gagnon?

  No, vets can decide to take over a case whenever they want.

• 12:09Speaker 06

  Oh, yo, do that, Biden.

• 12:11Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 12:12Speaker 04

  Did you hear the?

• 12:12Speaker 06

  Approval rating will shoot right back up.

• 12:15Speaker 04

  The McDonald's employee won't get the money that's offered for getting him arrested because he called 911.

• 12:20Speaker 05

  One and not Crime Stoppers.

• 12:21Speaker 06

  That's what you get. That's what you get for being a hoe.

• 12:24Mark Gagnon?

  Yo, that's fucked up.

• 12:25Speaker 04

  Nah, that's crazy.

• 12:26Speaker 06

  I'll defend his snitches. What's going on right now?

• 12:29Mark Gagnon?

  I'm a civilian.

• 12:34Speaker 05

  People are pointing out, there's just like a lot of things with it where it's like, okay, this kid.

• 12:38Mark Gagnon?

  What are people pointing?

• 12:39Speaker 05

  He goes to U Penn, right? Like an Ivy League school.

• 12:41Speaker 06

  He's a smart kid.

• 12:42Speaker 05

  He goes to Gilman in Maryland, which is like the most prestigious school in the area. It's like forty grand a year, valedictorian.

• 12:48Speaker 06

  Wow.

• 12:49Speaker 05

  Bright guy. He's the joker. He's like writing messages on bullets. He's leaving Monopoly money as a message to the feds in Central Park. Like this, this whole grand scheme.

• 12:57Speaker 04

  Elaborate scheme, yeah.

• 12:58Speaker 05

  But then goes and has a gun on him and the manifesto and fake IDs and is sitting in a McDonald's waiting.

• 13:06Speaker 06

  Not to go, dine in.

• 13:09Speaker 04

  That's far. That level of comfort is amazing.

• 13:11Speaker 06

  But he's not that dumb. A guy like that, doesn't make sense he'd be that dumb.

• 13:15Mark Gagnon?

  Didn't he go to college in Pennsylvania?

• 13:17Speaker 06

  So he's going. No, no, Altoona, he went to college in Philly, U Penn. Then he went to Penn State Altoona. That's not even, that's like, um, like an offshoot satellite school or whatever. It's not even the real Penn State. So there's, I've been to Altoona. Ain't no fucking reason to go to Altoona.

• 13:32Speaker 04

  No, I'm just saying.

• 13:33Speaker 06

  Unless you're doing a Wild and Out comedy show there.

• 13:35Speaker 05

  Or you're running from a murder.

• 13:37Speaker 06

  But even then, just, you got the foreign currency. Just go across country lines, whatever, whatever fucking currency you got, go there. He's not a dumb person.

• 13:44Mark Gagnon?

  Yes, I think, well, one, he probably wasn't online that much because he probably threw away his phone. And so he probably didn't know.

• 13:50Speaker 06

  So he thought nobody was looking for him?

• 13:52Speaker 05

  He didn't throw away his phone.

• 13:53Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, he didn't?

• 13:53Speaker 05

  So there's another thing that came up in the court is that they said that he had Faraday bags, which is basically like a bag, like almost, you can think of like a yonder bag, but it's, it's basically disrupts the cell signal from getting in or out. So you can't be traced. And they said, this is indication of criminal sophistication.

• 14:08Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 14:08Speaker 05

  And he says, I picked this bag because it's waterproof. It has nothing to do with criminal sophistication.

• 14:13Mark Gagnon?

  You think this motherfucker, they planted that much shit on this guy?

• 14:15Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 14:17Speaker 05

  But this is the thing where I'm like, okay, he is super smart, but maybe he's like going through a mental episode or is like a narcissist or something because he's speaking in court without an attorney. Which if you're like, you know, above average intelligent persons, you know, once you get into court, don't say shit. Just be like, hey, I need legal representation. I'm gonna keep my mouth shut. So that would indicate to me like, oh, he feels pretty confident about his position with the judge. You know what I mean?

• 14:42Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 14:42Speaker 05

  Which-

• 14:43Speaker 06

  Cause he knows he's innocent, yo. He knows the truth is on his side.

• 14:46Speaker 04

  Wait a minute, that changes things for me.

• 14:48Speaker 05

  No.

• 14:49Speaker 04

  If he's choosing to defend himself-

• 14:50Speaker 05

  But he's not def- he didn't choose to defend himself. He's just in front of the judge. God bless you in the name of God and the Holy Spirit.

• 14:56Speaker 04

  It was all over my shoulder.

• 14:57Speaker 05

  I can smell it.

• 14:58Speaker 04

  I have smelly sneezes.

• 14:59Speaker 05

  Bro, what the hell?

• 15:00Speaker 04

  But my farts don't smell.

• 15:01Speaker 05

  That is interesting.

• 15:02Speaker 06

  That's actually false, completely false.

• 15:04Speaker 04

  It's only if I allow it.

• 15:05Speaker 05

  Yeah. How come your sneezes smell like shit?

• 15:08Speaker 04

  Cause I can't control the smell of my sneezes, but my farts, I can't keep that in. I can't keep that in. And then just decomposes my body.

• 15:15Speaker 05

  Bro, have you ever sneezed and woke up your baby and your wife freaks out at you?

• 15:17Speaker 04

  No, but I farted and woken up my wife and she's really happy about it. Yeah, she really enjoys that. It's my favorite way to wake up. And then when she wakes up, I go, "Ha!" And then I say, "She farted." My wife farted the other day. She was in, while we're in bed, she woke herself up, farted. She was so embarrassed that she put the covers over her head and I was like, "Don't go down there."

• 15:41Speaker 05

  That's ground zero, dude. You gotta be careful.

• 15:43Speaker 04

  She's like, "Touch that there." Last show to tour, okay? Honolulu, Hawaii, alright? We'll see you guys all there, the Blindsdale Arena. We'll see the protesters there as well. Appreciate y'all, we love y'all, man. Shout out to the Kendrick fans that will be outside. We'll be inside, you know, having crazy racist and sexist jokes and having to time our fucking lives. But y'all enjoy the outside. I hope it pours rain and you just stay out there soaked. We love y'all, man, appreciate y'all. The Life Tour is finally coming to an end. We got the special film. Once again, thank you guys so much for pulling up to that. That was awesome. And I'll give you news about when that comes out on Netflix. But appreciate y'all, we see you in a few weeks.

• 16:27Speaker 06

  Alright guys, let's talk show dates. I told you I'd have announcements this week and I do. February dates are coming, but January, we ready to rock with those. January 9th and 10th and 11th, I'm gonna be at SideSplitters Comedy Club in Tampa. So all you Floridians, white trash people, people that are happy that we had Trump on the pod, come through. Also, January 23rd through 25th, I'm gonna be in Sacramento at Punchline. Guys, I sold that show out two years ago when I wasn't even really moving tickets. So you better buy tickets to that shit, cuz it's gonna go quickly. Also, January 30th and February 1st, I'mma be in Des Moines. I'm very excited to go to Des Moines because you know, sometimes you're just trying to like, make fun of being in the middle of nowhere and you just pull a city out of your ass. My go-to is Des Moines. Now I finally get to see, apparently it's West Des Moines.

• 17:10Speaker 06

  I, I don't know why the fuck you would have directions for Des Moines, but I'mma be there at the Funny Bone in West Des Moines. Get your tickets there at AkashSing.com. Also, if you go to the website, my eyes look really pretty on the top banner. I don't know who did the Photoshop, or maybe that's my natural eye color. I fuck those eyes. See y'all there.

• 17:27Speaker 05

  Back to Luigi.

• 17:28Speaker 04

  Yeah, fucking Luigi, man. Put a different picture up, man. This is too crazy.

• 17:32Speaker 05

  I can't. And all the pictures are so.

• 17:33Speaker 06

  Mugshot is a joint too.

• 17:35Speaker 05

  Yeah, it is crazy. But, so he's talking to the judge in court. I don't think he's like legally defending himself. Like, I don't think he's like, "I'm denying representation." But I think he is going back and forth with the, with the judge.

• 17:47Mark Gagnon?

  Wait, so you guys don't think he went crazy?

• 17:50Speaker 04

  No, no, he probably went crazy. It's just more fun to say that he's this like vigilante hero.

• 17:54Speaker 05

  But two things can be true, right? You can be a crazy vigilante hero.

• 17:57Mark Gagnon?

  Yes.

• 17:58Speaker 04

  But it is rare that people like bad, uh, people we perceive to be bad get killed.

• 18:05Speaker 06

  Yeah, bad things usually don't happen to bad people.

• 18:08Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 18:09Speaker 06

  You know what I mean? This is one of those rare cases.

• 18:11Speaker 05

  It's just nice to see gun violence bringing people together. You know what I mean? It's just nice to see an act of senseless crime bringing the whole country like, yes.

• 18:17Mark Gagnon?

  It did bring.

• 18:18Speaker 06

  There ain't no senseless.

• 18:19Mark Gagnon?

  Both sides were just like.

• 18:19Speaker 05

  We can fight behind something.

• 18:20Speaker 06

  There is senseless. Anybody who ever had to pay for their own health insurance, this made the most sense.

• 18:25Speaker 04

  I think Americans are ready for central healthcare or whatever it is.

• 18:28Speaker 06

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 18:29Speaker 04

  What is it called?

• 18:29Speaker 05

  Universal healthcare.

• 18:30Speaker 04

  Universal healthcare.

• 18:31Speaker 06

  If you want that to happen.

• 18:32Speaker 04

  I think we're ready for it.

• 18:33Speaker 06

  Yeah, mark out a couple more of these guys.

• 18:35Speaker 04

  That's very.

• 18:35Speaker 05

  Do you remember when we were talking about this? We were like, okay, there's going to come a time where there's a, like a wealth disparity and it'll be like a violent revolution or a political revolution?

• 18:43Speaker 04

  Yeah. We're getting close.

• 18:45Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 18:45Speaker 04

  We're getting close, but you can, like, rich people, basically, the super, super, super, super rich have to make sure that the super poor have just enough to get by. The second they don't have enough to get by, then they're gonna, okay, we're gonna storm that person's fucking estate and we're gonna kill his whole family, et cetera.

• 19:00Speaker 06

  And that's what happens here.

• 19:02Speaker 04

  So, a way to keep them poor, but keep them happy, would be to just give them universal healthcare.

• 19:10Speaker 05

  Oh, okay.

• 19:11Speaker 04

  And that will get you a few more years.

• 19:13Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 19:13Speaker 04

  It's gonna take some money off of your, you know, bottom dollar, but you'll find a way to just put on the middle class or put on like the kind of rich like they always do. But that is a way to keep them out of your pockets or keep them from storming your estate for a few more decades.

• 19:25Speaker 05

  Decades, yeah.

• 19:26Speaker 04

  You get a couple more decades, and eventually they'll be like, hold on, I can't eat, but I can go get my neck fixed. This is fucked up. And they're gonna shoot another one of you. But this is a good sign that it's time to start taking care of the people, because he wasn't poor.

• 19:38Speaker 05

  No, he was like, one of the wealthier families. His cousin is a delegate in Maryland. He's a some type of like political office.

• 19:45Speaker 04

  Really?

• 19:46Speaker 05

  Yeah, Nino Mangione.

• 19:47Mark Gagnon?

  Weird thing, the whole family owns a bunch of nursing homes, and they have really bad ratings. So I'm like, if yours should be upset at somebody, probably should be upset at your own family.

• 19:58Speaker 06

  He didn't talk to his family for like three, six months, whatever. No one knew what happened to him.

• 20:01Speaker 05

  Hmm.

• 20:01Speaker 04

  Oh.

• 20:02Mark Gagnon?

  But it is interesting, like, why is he, the anger being directed at the health insurance company when your family is really not doing a good job taking care of old people?

• 20:11Speaker 04

  Ooh.

• 20:12Speaker 05

  That's a good one.

• 20:13Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 20:13Speaker 05

  I didn't know that they had nursing homes.

• 20:14Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, yeah, they own like a bunch, like, probably like ten to twelve.

• 20:18Speaker 06

  Oh, wow. Take it to the top, baby.

• 20:20Speaker 05

  Interesting.

• 20:20Speaker 04

  There's a little, uh, they apparently had this back injury, I don't know if that's real.

• 20:24Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 20:25Speaker 04

  But this like lingering back injury.

• 20:27Speaker 06

  You gotta get surgery.

• 20:28Speaker 05

  Again, this is kind of one of the stories people are saying, I don't know if it's the case, but it's like, he was in Hawaii, he was surfing, injured his back, gets back surgery. Apparently, there's like a whole back surgery racket that happens. I was looking at this also, where like, they're over diagnosed and oftentimes, like, like the saying that people will go through, go with is like, the first surgery is optional, the second surgery isn't.

• 20:47Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 20:47Speaker 05

  And so like, these doctors will just like do back surgeries, and then they have chronic back pain forever, because the doctor's getting kickbacks for the back surgeries and yada, yada, yada.

• 20:54Speaker 04

  Fuck.

• 20:55Speaker 05

  Is what people are saying. And so it's possible that he was wrapped up in that.

• 20:59Speaker 04

  He feels manipulated, taken advantage of, and now for the rest of his life, he's in pain.

• 21:02Speaker 05

  So they're looking at his like book recommendations, like the books he read, and there's a ton of like back pain books.

• 21:07Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 21:07Speaker 05

  And so he's like reading about this shit. He's feeling angry. He maybe did like, some people say he did like ayahuasca.

• 21:13Speaker 04

  To get through it.

• 21:14Speaker 05

  And like was that was partially part of it. So like he was angry, traumatized, hyper intelligent. And then goes potentially crazy, don't doesn't talk to his family for three, six months, and then forms his plan.

• 21:25Speaker 04

  Yikes.

• 21:25Speaker 06

  Comes back a fucking superhero.

• 21:28Speaker 06

  Unbelievable. What a story. What a fucking story.

• 21:32Speaker 05

  Dude, Miles and I were talking about this. It feels like Batman. Like imagine he doesn't get caught and just keeps going.

• 21:36Speaker 06

  Kills people. He's something much cooler.

• 21:37Speaker 05

  But he goes after other billionaires.

• 21:39Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 21:39Speaker 05

  Imagine he just keeps on finding billionaires.

• 21:40Speaker 04

  Dexter.

• 21:41Speaker 05

  Yeah. And then he tries to kill Bruce Wayne. And then that's where the episode of Batman starts. Third episode.

• 21:46Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 21:49Speaker 04

  I mean, there is something, because Dexter, the idea was that.

• 21:52Speaker 06

  Serial killer that kills other serial killers, right?

• 21:54Speaker 04

  Oh, I thought you were a serial killer that just kills bad people.

• 21:57Speaker 06

  Maybe it goes there, but I think the idea was serial killers.

• 21:59Speaker 05

  Serial killers kill bad people, serial killers. I think it's like sort of both.

• 22:02Speaker 04

  Right. But essentially the people.

• 22:03Speaker 05

  He kills someone that stole copper pipes, like.

• 22:05Speaker 04

  He's not killing, he's not killing good people. He's killing murderers or rapists or.

• 22:10Speaker 06

  It probably gets to that point, yeah. But the idea is this.

• 22:12Speaker 04

  But the idea is so he has to feed that need, so he's gonna find a way to do it that like helps society.

• 22:17Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 22:17Speaker 04

  Which now we can like him.

• 22:19Speaker 06

  Yeah. Robin Hood is a kleptomaniac and wants to help out poor people while he's at it. This way I don't feel guilty.

• 22:24Speaker 05

  That's great.

• 22:25Speaker 06

  That's all Robin Hood is. He's a fucking klepto.

• 22:27Speaker 04

  Yeah. Anyway, so I wonder if, I wonder if other CEOs for these companies right now are looking at how the public is reacting. Not is there a crazy person that's gonna try to murder you. There can always be a crazy person that's gonna try to murder any of us, right? But the public reaction, and they're going, whoa, I'm hated. My job is hated. When I tell people what I do for a living, they hate me. They despise me and they think that how I contribute to the world is repugnant. And I wonder if that weighs on them and they start going, I don't, I don't want to be thought of by that this way by my community. Or I wonder if they're such. Sociopaths that they go, eh, fuck it. This is how I make money.

• 23:07Speaker 06

  Well, here's what I, this is gonna be like some cucky shit probably. I'll just say it. I don't, this thing that they all hide behind, healthcare, insurance companies and food companies. When they go public, oh, our fiduciary responsibilities to the shareholder. I almost think you shouldn't be allowed to go public if you're a health insurance company, a healthcare company, a food company. Because then-

• 23:26Speaker 04

  Conflict of interest.

• 23:27Speaker 06

  Food is full of bullshit. And what they hide behind is we're publicly traded.

• 23:30Speaker 04

  That's a great point.

• 23:31Speaker 06

  This is medicine and food for the people, but you get to hide behind, if I'm Brian Thompson, I'm doing my job.

• 23:38Speaker 04

  Alright, so can I ask you a question? What would be the, uh, would be the, uh, the alternative argument to that?

• 23:44Speaker 06

  I, I guess it's just anti-capitalist. It just seems a little socialist to not let these guys go. To not letting healthcare companies, food companies go public. Oh, we can't get the funding we need to expand the business the way we want to, or whatever. They would hide behind that, but-

• 23:56Speaker 05

  Anti-research and development. The reason that a lot of these like drug companies say that they should be public is because-

• 24:01Speaker 04

  They can, they need the money to do the R and D to profit off the drugs. Yeah, which, which is true. The, the entire world benefits from our drug R and D.

• 24:09Speaker 06

  Okay, that would make sense for pharma. What about health insurance companies? Why does United Health-

• 24:14Speaker 05

  Hey.

• 24:15Speaker 06

  No, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not-

• 24:19Speaker 04

  Because United Health is not developing the instruments or machines to cure people.

• 24:22Speaker 06

  And I know you're not on their side. I'm just curious, what would be the argument for them? If you're playing devil's advocate?

• 24:26Speaker 05

  Uh, I mean, I, I don't have a good one for that.

• 24:29Speaker 06

  Yeah, I don't think, oh, and food companies again.

• 24:31Speaker 04

  That's a really, that's a really, now, the food company one is tricky because there is a lot of R and D when it comes to food. And unfortunately, that R and D might lead to like way worse things for us.

• 24:41Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 24:42Speaker 04

  But it is-

• 24:43Mark Gagnon?

  It's how you make more food more addictive.

• 24:45Speaker 04

  Exactly. Yeah, yeah. So maybe you eliminate that and the food gets healthier.

• 24:48Speaker 06

  You can literally get a fu- start a fucking GoFundMe. You guys wanna do Doritos flavor? Here you go. Five dollars to the GoFundMe. I mean, it's a Kickstarter. What do we like? I don't think this is, uh, cause again, if the goal is to maximize profits for the shareholder, I'm going to-

• 25:05Speaker 04

  In-N-Out never had a, isn't a publicly traded business.

• 25:09Speaker 06

  Very wealthy.

• 25:10Speaker 04

  That shit slaps. Like, so let's not act like you need-

• 25:13Speaker 06

  Chipotle, the quality fell to dog shit. It's publicly traded. And because you get to say, well, I could use this really high quality chicken, but it costs more, so I'm gonna use a lower quality chicken, but that's okay because my primary responsibility is not to the people I'm feeding. It's to the shareholder.

• 25:28Speaker 04

  Akash, sometimes you make some great ass points. You, you.

• 25:32Speaker 06

  Don't happen often.

• 25:33Speaker 04

  No, but no, for real, this is a great point. You stop being responsible to your customers. And now your customers become this conduit to making your shareholders more money.

• 25:45Speaker 06

  Yes.

• 25:45Speaker 04

  You're actually, in a lot of ways, poisoning your customers. And that relationship then is one of animosity. Where there's like, okay, maybe I like this food, but also I hate the service and I hate all these things. The businesses that are there to serve the customers, like In-N-Out for example, right? They always hear about, oh, they're paying their employees, you know, fifteen dollars an hour, twenty dollars an hour, right? They're paying way above minimum wage. When you walk into that bitch, they're happy.

• 26:09Speaker 06

  They're happy.

• 26:10Speaker 04

  And you feel good.

• 26:11Speaker 06

  You feel great.

• 26:12Speaker 04

  Yeah. You walk into some of these fast food restaurants and it looks like it's on a site.

• 26:16Speaker 06

  They're trying to say you murdered a CEO.

• 26:18Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 26:19Speaker 06

  It's like, bro, I'm trying to get a ticket.

• 26:20Speaker 04

  They're snitching because they're not getting paid right. There is no way an In-N-Out employee would have snitched on Manjoni. You would have given them animal style, as you are. For real.

• 26:30Mark Gagnon?

  I love this Bernie bros are listening like, yes, they finally get it.

• 26:34Speaker 04

  Finally.

• 26:35Mark Gagnon?

  Socially sponsored.

• 26:36Speaker 04

  Finally, let's fucking go.

• 26:37Mark Gagnon?

  I love this.

• 26:38Speaker 04

  No, that's a fucking great.

• 26:39Mark Gagnon?

  Keep going, y'all cooking.

• 26:39Speaker 04

  Yeah, we're cooking right now.

• 26:41Mark Gagnon?

  Fucking cooking.

• 26:41Speaker 04

  So that is a great example. Uh, uh, uh, should healthcare companies be publicly traded? Because now your responsibility is no longer to the people you're trying to take care of.

• 26:51Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 26:51Speaker 04

  And the same thing with food. What other businesses shouldn't be publicly traded?

• 26:55Speaker 06

  Uh, those are the two that come to mind.

• 26:56Speaker 04

  Like, let's say, for example, uh, a, a bridge could be a publicly traded company.

• 27:02Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 27:03Speaker 04

  No.

• 27:04Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 27:04Speaker 04

  Be responsible for me getting over to the other side.

• 27:07Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 27:08Speaker 04

  Don't be responsible to some guy in Arizona who invested in his bridge company.

• 27:11Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 27:12Speaker 04

  The George Washington Bridge, the Brooklyn Bridge, those motherfuckers gotta serve us and nobody else.

• 27:17Speaker 06

  Thousand percent.

• 27:18Speaker 04

  Same thing should apply.

• 27:19Speaker 06

  The only things that come to my mind are essentially medicine, which is food and actual healthcare. I guess you could say medicine because.

• 27:25Speaker 04

  You thought of this right now?

• 27:27Speaker 06

  No, I've been thinking this and this just proved to me that there was something here.

• 27:30Speaker 04

  No, I'm just saying, every, every once in a while, when, every once in a while, he starts acting like a real Hindu.

• 27:37Speaker 06

  Fucking Indian.

• 27:38Speaker 04

  I know, I know. You know what I mean? Like, sometimes his little Punjabi brain is working.

• 27:43Speaker 04

  But when you start asking.

• 27:44Mark Gagnon?

  Yesterday in a group chat, there was no karma in that group.

• 27:52Speaker 06

  Sometimes I'm karma.

• 27:57Speaker 04

  He was going full Punjabi. Cause you also need the Punjabis to fucking throw it down.

• 28:01Speaker 06

  Yeah, they're about that.

• 28:02Speaker 04

  And when it's more, they're about that action. And you need that version of him too.

• 28:07Speaker 05

  Took out the bracelet.

• 28:07Speaker 04

  Oh, the bracelet's going running. Hands up. I want to smoke with everybody. That's what you need. We can't do no Punjabi. Cause it's gonna be too passive.

• 28:16Speaker 06

  Too much.

• 28:16Speaker 04

  It's a little bit too passive, but sometimes you need that Hindu to come up and then make them crazy ass points.

• 28:21Speaker 06

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 28:21Speaker 04

  And then when they say your points are stupid, that Punjabi comes in.

• 28:24Speaker 05

  Yeah, oh, oh, is it?

• 28:25Speaker 04

  Meet you at the corner of the parking lot garage.

• 28:28Speaker 05

  Oh, you wanna rink a dink right now? Let me just rink a dink on there real quick.

• 28:31Speaker 04

  If you start rink a dinking, bro, and you're not using that Hindu.

• 28:36Mark Gagnon?

  He's like, don't let me bring my elephant through. Stop all you motherfuckers.

• 28:40Speaker 05

  That'd be a problem.

• 28:40Speaker 06

  Geez up, dude.

• 28:43Speaker 05

  But yeah, I think that's, I think that's true.

• 28:45Speaker 04

  And the American people want it. It's time for healthcare, man.

• 28:48Speaker 06

  Yeah, I don't know. Universal healthcare, I don't know. I think that's, that is a starting point. Cause you know, actually, and honestly, I don't think you care that much about shareholder profits, but you get to use that as a shield. Oh, it's all about, you want your own profits. The shareholders are secondary to what you want. But you get to hide behind that. Every business person says your primary financial, whatever responsibility is bullshit. Take that away from them.

• 29:11Speaker 05

  Yeah, it's cause the board can fire people that aren't making the company money.

• 29:14Speaker 06

  Yeah, and they get to hide behind that same fucking excuse. So now you're not publicly traded, now why are you pieces of shit? Now answer for it.

• 29:20Speaker 04

  My parents used to always say this, how lucky they were that they did something ethical for a living. They would always say this to me, I don't know, what do you mean? They're like, yeah, like we just teach people how to dance and they really enjoy it and they love it. And it feels really good that we get to have this opportunity to provide for ourselves. There are a lot of people that do things that, that are potentially unethical. And they brought up the insurance thing. Like somebody has to go to somebody's house that gets torn apart by a hurricane and say, well, technically you didn't board your windows. And if you had boarded your windows, it wouldn't have destroyed your living room and your kitchen. So we're not gonna repay your living room and kitchen. And then.

• 29:52Speaker 05

  Yeah, I know.

• 29:53Speaker 04

  Those people are screwed. But that's what they have to do for a living.

• 29:56Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 29:57Speaker 04

  And we get to come on this podcast and, you know, just tell, you know, talk about making love to little guys. Little rascals, we'll make love to a little rascal.

• 30:06Speaker 05

  So unethical.

• 30:07Speaker 04

  It's ethical, like, we get to tell our children about that. Our children one day will watch this and be like, damn, those are crazy fuckers.

• 30:15Speaker 05

  They did some.

• 30:16Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, yeah.

• 30:16Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 30:17Mark Gagnon?

  They all gonna look at us and be like, yeah, this is stupid motherfucker. I would be so proud.

• 30:22Speaker 04

  How was your guys' week? Did you guys have a good week?

• 30:25Speaker 06

  That was great.

• 30:26Speaker 04

  Yeah, do you have a good?

• 30:26Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 30:27Speaker 04

  Better than Brian Thompson?

• 30:29Speaker 06

  Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was in Albany, so not that much better.

• 30:33Speaker 04

  Oh, were you at the Funny Bone?

• 30:34Speaker 06

  Yeah, it was a great club.

• 30:35Speaker 04

  Yeah. The club, the club is good.

• 30:36Speaker 06

  It's shocking how much colder it is outside of New York City as soon as you leave.

• 30:40Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 30:40Speaker 06

  Two, two hours up, snow.

• 30:42Speaker 04

  Ugly people.

• 30:43Speaker 06

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 30:45Speaker 04

  I'm telling you, you get, how people make a city just have a little bit more warmth? You forget about the cold, but when you're walking around Albany, you're like, damn, it is brick outside. What the fuck? Where's Luigi Manjoni? Where's Luigi Manjoni to give me a hug when I need him? It is colder with ugly people, right? I know that sounds like it doesn't make sense logically, but it is.

• 31:07Speaker 06

  Much colder than LA.

• 31:08Speaker 04

  San Francisco's one of the darker, I think it's actually sunny, but the people so ugly, you're like, I don't even wanna look.

• 31:12Speaker 06

  God don't even wanna shine down.

• 31:14Speaker 04

  Why would I waste this sun? Let me throw this shit, let me throw this shit down in Los Angeles where they need it.

• 31:22Mark Gagnon?

  That's why people from Boston's so funny, cuz it's like, you're not ugly, you gotta at least be funny.

• 31:26Speaker 04

  You gotta chop it up.

• 31:27Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 31:27Speaker 04

  Even the women up there are funny.

• 31:29Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 31:29Speaker 05

  Yeah. A lot of Indiana's on, on the list of ugly cities, by the way.

• 31:33Speaker 04

  Oh, really?

• 31:33Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 31:34Speaker 04

  Cuz they try to say the most attractive city and they're like, oh, it's, it's Boston, it's something.

• 31:38Speaker 06

  Yeah, they always try to make a splash with these lists.

• 31:40Speaker 05

  No, the most attractive city is probably LA, right?

• 31:44Mark Gagnon?

  No, it's New York.

• 31:44Speaker 06

  I feel New York is underrated, to be honest with you.

• 31:46Mark Gagnon?

  New York for sure.

• 31:47Speaker 05

  Uh. I mean, I agree.

• 31:49Mark Gagnon?

  We look good even in the wintertime.

• 31:50Speaker 04

  Can I be honest with you? Can I be honest with you?

• 31:53Speaker 06

  It's also diverse beauty. LA, the hottest girls are, you're like, they don't, they don't, they're not out. You don't see them.

• 31:58Speaker 04

  Can I just, can I just be honest?

• 31:59Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 32:00Speaker 04

  There's too many intelligent people in New York for it to be the hottest.

• 32:07Speaker 04

  There is, the thing about LA is there's no need for intelligence at all.

• 32:14Speaker 04

  Pretty much all jobs in LA can be done by literal retards. And because of that-

• 32:20Mark Gagnon?

  We have Luigi's though.

• 32:21Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 32:21Mark Gagnon?

  Intelligent hot people.

• 32:23Speaker 04

  Wait, wait, but where's he from? I thought he's from Pennsylvania.

• 32:25Speaker 06

  Yeah, but he's from Maryland.

• 32:27Mark Gagnon?

  He moved over here.

• 32:28Speaker 04

  Northeast, northeast. We'll take northeast.

• 32:30Speaker 06

  You can claim him.

• 32:30Speaker 04

  We're not claiming him. What I'm trying to say is-

• 32:33Speaker 06

  Oh, if it's natives only, then even LA don't count and New York don't count? Cause all the hot people move there. Yeah, that's a good point.

• 32:38Speaker 04

  Yeah, but then eventually it accumulates. But, okay, so we have people moving. But, so with the people moving, that's fine. So, New York, you have to have like some level of intelligence to live here, right? Cause there's no, there's not as many jobs for retards as there is in LA.

• 32:53Speaker 06

  That's true.

• 32:53Speaker 04

  Do you know what I mean? So unfortunately-

• 32:55Speaker 06

  If you have to have some level of intelligence, how do you explain all Dove's girls?

• 32:59Speaker 04

  Well, they don't live here.

• 33:00Mark Gagnon?

  Son, they never live here.

• 33:02Speaker 04

  Dove is not hooked up with a single girl that lives in New York.

• 33:06Speaker 06

  They stay at his place.

• 33:06Speaker 04

  I'm here, I'm here for two weeks. I go from Brazil for two weeks. I go from Brazil for two weeks and I stand outside Tommy Hilfiger's store. I have to stand outside Tommy Hilfiger's store and hold surfboard for eight hours a day. And then he waits till it's like their last two days here so you don't have to break out?

• 33:27Speaker 04

  Would you like to pay for my citizenship so I can stand outside Tommy Hilfiger's store and hold surfboard? And then he goes, no, I'm sorry, there's nothing I can do. Oh, shokes.

• 33:38Speaker 04

  Oh, shokes, I have to go back to Higginson Avenue.

• 33:43Speaker 04

  Where I stand outside the different store with surfboard for my way less money.

• 33:50Speaker 04

  This is, this is, this is Dove's girl.

• 33:52Speaker 06

  They still have the accent when they have sex? That's, is that true?

• 33:54Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah, 100%. You don't know if they're moaning or talking.

• 33:59Mark Gagnon?

  They sound like me moaning, bro.

• 34:02Speaker 04

  How, dude?

• 34:06Speaker 04

  Tommy Hilfiger.

• 34:09Speaker 04

  Tommy Hilfiger stole. It's a legendary accent. One day they gave me longbow.

• 34:15Speaker 04

  Fucking Dana White's contender series.

• 34:22Speaker 04

  No, but that's it. But in terms of Dove being with like a real New Yorker, no, it's not, it's not gonna happen.

• 34:26Speaker 06

  Yeah. Has that not happened?

• 34:28Mark Gagnon?

  Come on.

• 34:30Speaker 04

  Never once, never once, you never, never, never once. New York girls are hard, bro. You need to like, Dove's charm doesn't work on New York girls.

• 34:37Speaker 06

  Really?

• 34:37Speaker 04

  No, no, Dove's charm works on girls with like hope and dreams. New York girls are dead. Dark, bro. They seen some shit at 14 years old.

• 34:46Mark Gagnon?

  We're all too soft. None of us has a New Yorker.

• 34:49Speaker 06

  That's right.

• 34:52Speaker 04

  My girl moved here at 14 years old and every once in a while I see some New Yorker and I'm like, God damn.

• 34:59Mark Gagnon?

  Not one of you on the couch has a New Yorker.

• 35:02Speaker 06

  Why would I? I never rev New York.

• 35:05Speaker 04

  Wait, you're close.

• 35:06Speaker 06

  I'm the closest, I think. Philly.

• 35:08Speaker 04

  Philly.

• 35:09Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 35:09Speaker 04

  My girl moved here at 14, but still it's not New York. She had a happy childhood. She had a pretty happy childhood. She had a pretty happy childhood.

• 35:19Mark Gagnon?

  New York toughed you up, bro. My girl's getting a little too tough. I'm like, yo, we might need to go to a

• 35:25Speaker 06

  We opened WTM LA for a reason.

• 35:28Speaker 04

  Yo, what's going on? Is it the season? My girl getting tough too?

• 35:33Speaker 04

  Like it's crazy out here. What's going on? It's the coldness, bro. What do you do? You gotta What are you doing in this situation? You gotta heat him up somehow. My logic don't work no more?

• 35:41Speaker 06

  We gotta be in, we got a Miami winter studio that needs to happen.

• 35:44Speaker 04

  Yeah. We need to keep him distracted.

• 35:45Speaker 06

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 35:46Mark Gagnon?

  I have to grow out my beard for cushion to get

• 35:53Speaker 04

  I'm moving out. My man.

• 35:59Speaker 04

  Yo, be careful, buddy. Spanish women, bro. Spanish women, bro.

• 36:05Mark Gagnon?

  Be careful, buddy. Spanish women.

• 36:07Speaker 04

  That is, I can't believe you say that about Spanish women. I know, man.

• 36:11Mark Gagnon?

  You know what you need to do? You need to get that little red cape and just be out there.

• 36:16Speaker 04

  Baby, I love you. Oh, man.

• 36:22Mark Gagnon?

  He run it like pump blown up.

• 36:24Speaker 04

  Hit him with a old man. That's why I did it in red, bro.

• 36:28Speaker 04

  All right. Did y'all watch the fights at all this past weekend?

• 36:31Speaker 06

  I did not. Tell me what happened.

• 36:32Speaker 04

  You watched?

• 36:32Mark Gagnon?

  I didn't.

• 36:33Speaker 04

  Watched?

• 36:34Mark Gagnon?

  Did someone steal your pay per view, by the way?

• 36:35Speaker 04

  Son, I thought someone stole my pay per view.

• 36:39Speaker 04

  I treat our whole work group chat as just a personal helpline.

• 36:44Speaker 04

  I couldn't sign into the to the fight. I was trying to buy the fight and it wouldn't let me sign in. It was like not available on this device. So I was like, is somebody or the boys watching at the studio? That's what I figured you guys were. So I texted the group. I was like, yo, what's up with the the fights? I can't sign in and then nobody answered. And I just handed my phone to my wife and she figured that shit out. It's great to have. It's great to have someone that's under 30 looking at your technology and making sure that shit works. Anyway, yeah, so.

• 37:17Mark Gagnon?

  We all looked at your messages like, gosh.

• 37:20Speaker 04

  I get it. I get it. I just I but I did end up watching it and it was they were fantastic. So there was this fight between Ian Gary.

• 37:28Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 37:29Speaker 04

  And Shavkat Rakmanov, I think his name, I'm probably mispronouncing.

• 37:35Speaker 04

  Which was phenomenal, like Shavkat is supposedly the boogeyman of the division. Ian Gary comes out on like three weeks notice. You know, there's been a lot of like shit talk about Ian Gary. He's got a, you know, a little interesting situation where his wife and the mother of his child is also has like there her ex is his trainer for and like doing his meals and stuff like that.

• 37:55Mark Gagnon?

  The one that she wrote the book about being a gold digger?

• 37:56Speaker 04

  And then she wrote that book, which is a satirical book, but obviously everybody's, you know, or it's incredibly accurate, who knows? But I don't know the exact situation when obviously at first I saw it and I was like, holy shit, this is fucked up. This poor kid's getting taken advantage of. She's way older than him. She locked him down, made him change his name to include her name. And like a lot of on the surface, you're like, this is fucked. Then you read the book and it's like clearly like a joke. So I'm like, oh, okay, this might be something else going on here. Anyway, this motherfucker.

• 38:27Speaker 04

  On three weeks notice goes up against the guy who's the number one in the division. He ends up losing a decision, but like almost chokes him out in the fifth round, slowly starts building. Like he could fight his fucking ass off. And you looked at me like he's only a striker. He's defending every single takedown. Like it was very impressive.

• 38:42Speaker 05

  Shout out to the nutrition guy.

• 38:43Speaker 04

  Shout out to the nutritionist. That's yo, nobody talking about that.

• 38:48Speaker 05

  Exactly, right?

• 38:49Speaker 04

  That we need to discuss.

• 38:50Speaker 05

  Yeah, it's a group effort.

• 38:52Speaker 04

  Getting the fucking, whoever was doing like the PED testing for the UFC, what was, what was it called?

• 38:57Speaker 05

  Usada.

• 38:57Speaker 04

  Getting Usada out of there, these motherfuckers is tizzled now. This shit look like WWE in the nineties, bro.

• 39:04Speaker 04

  Usada makes shit look boring. Get Usada the fuck out of here. These guys are shredding. Ultimate warrior, every single one of them.

• 39:12Speaker 05

  Get out of here.

• 39:13Speaker 04

  Listen, I'm sure they're all abiding by all the rules.

• 39:15Speaker 05

  They're working out harder now.

• 39:16Speaker 04

  They're just working out harder now that Usada's not there. They're P testing them all the time. They couldn't, you know?

• 39:20Speaker 05

  They're not gonna be accused wrongly.

• 39:21Speaker 04

  That, that fight is phenomenal. It is like super tactical. It was just awesome to see. Both guys phenomenal. Uh, and then this, I was not familiar with your game. The guy who was in the main card, Pantoja, was fighting this guy coming over from like one or something like that. Japanese dude. This Pantoja guy is relentless.

• 39:40Speaker 05

  Really?

• 39:40Speaker 04

  I mean, like, I, it was under pressure and you guys should just, it's short. I would watch the highlights. He fights at 125 fucking pounds and he is.

• 39:55Speaker 04

  It was, it.

• 39:56Speaker 05

  Wrestler, striker?

• 39:57Speaker 04

  Striker that also does jujitsu, but I think his background is actually in sort of wrestling or jujitsu. But he was striking with the guy and the other guy that he's fighting is known as like one punch knockout. Are you watching this?

• 40:07Speaker 05

  Blonde Asian?

• 40:08Speaker 04

  How about you put it up here?

• 40:09Speaker 05

  Going up against the blonde Asian? I gotta reconnect.

• 40:11Speaker 04

  And if we do put it up, I don't know if they're gonna try to take it down or whatever.

• 40:15Speaker 05

  Just watch right here. He's fucking up this blonde Asian.

• 40:17Speaker 04

  Anyway, it was that fight for as long as it lasted, but this guy should be a superstar. Like this guy.

• 40:22Speaker 05

  Pantoja.

• 40:23Speaker 04

  Yeah, he is.

• 40:25Speaker 05

  He won.

• 40:25Speaker 04

  He won, choked him out, but like, it was, it was phenomenal.

• 40:30Speaker 05

  Where, where's he from?

• 40:31Speaker 04

  He's from, I believe Brazil.

• 40:34Speaker 06

  Oh, they just skipped ahead.

• 40:35Speaker 05

  What does he sound like?

• 40:35Speaker 04

  Well, I don't know if we're up to that point in the pod yet. If we're up to a point in the pod.

• 40:39Speaker 05

  They'll find out later when he sounds like you.

• 40:41Speaker 04

  So you're either find out later or you find out right now.

• 40:45Mark Gagnon?

  If you beat an Asian at martial arts, you badass.

• 40:48Speaker 06

  Yeah, that's true.

• 40:49Speaker 04

  He's a bad motherfucker. Anyway, so it was fire. I mean, it was really cool, really cool. And obviously, this guy's a star. He's the champion of the division. I'm just being a super casual, but that motherfucker was relentless. Anytime he's fighting again, I want to see it. And I want to see Ian Gary's next fight. I want to see him and Shavkat get after it again.

• 41:06Speaker 06

  You want to see that? Okay.

• 41:07Speaker 04

  I want to see another rematch. Maybe down the line, they both get another fight or two. But I think this was one of those reality checks for Ian, because he had all this hype and there's all this criticism. And then he goes and fights the scariest guy in the division, so they say. This is the guy who's going to fight Bilal next.

• 41:20Speaker 06

  Okay.

• 41:21Speaker 04

  Right? And he fights him. That's a tough fight. I think he lost, but it was 3-2. And if there was one card that went the other way, or one scoring that went the other way, then I would not be crazy upset about it. But I think they got the decision right.

• 41:37Mark Gagnon?

  The other fight, you said he fought at 125?

• 41:39Speaker 04

  He fought 125 pounds.

• 41:40Mark Gagnon?

  What does he come in weighing at? What do you think? Because I'm like, 125, I can take that.

• 41:45Speaker 04

  Sorry. I mean, yeah.

• 41:47Speaker 05

  Gotta stop.

• 41:48Mark Gagnon?

  I can take a 125.

• 41:49Speaker 04

  The last week of my life is based on that principle.

• 41:54Speaker 04

  But I'm watching this shit like, I'm gonna have to rethink this shit. How much Kung Fu this motherfucker knows?

• 42:00Speaker 04

  So, uh, yeah, it was crazy.

• 42:03Speaker 05

  What did you think of the Sriragan decision?

• 42:04Speaker 04

  Horrible.

• 42:05Speaker 05

  Yeah, I saw Dana go and apologize to Volkov.

• 42:07Speaker 04

  Like, it was so horrible. I mean, Sriragan just got worked. He got his ass kicked. And I think, yeah, it was just, apparently he broke his, like, every toe in one of his feet in, like, the first round or something like that. But, like, Volkov, I thought, fought a way better fight. He kind of, like, laid on him the last few rounds, the last round of it. So you could go, he didn't, like, really deliver the decision. But it was easy. Like, I don't think anybody that watched that fight with eyeballs thought that those judges got it right. Like, I couldn't believe it. There's no way that the judges that judged the rest of the fights, that I thought they judged well,

• 42:37Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 42:37Speaker 04

  judged that one. And the fact that Dana gets so upset about it, it's nice, because...

• 42:44Speaker 04

  In boxing, I would look at this and I go, ah, the promoter rigged this whole shit.

• 42:48Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 42:49Speaker 04

  But Dana coming out and going like, I'm gonna see if we can reverse that. That was one of the worst decisions I've ever made.

• 42:53Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 42:54Speaker 04

  Makes me feel like the judges are neutral.

• 42:56Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 42:57Speaker 04

  You know, but it's an interesting one, too, where it's like, can an organization reverse a scoring? And if they do, what's the precedent for that? Do you go back?

• 43:06Speaker 05

  Yeah, that, that almost feels more corrupt.

• 43:07Speaker 04

  It does.

• 43:08Speaker 05

  Cause if it, if that happens, then it's like every single, everything, nah, contest it, contest it, contest it.

• 43:13Mark Gagnon?

  Or it could be a smart play by Dana and be like, this person's better for views, but even though they took the L, I gotta act like I, the other person deserved it, but nah, you're gonna get the next one.

• 43:24Speaker 05

  But even losses in UFC, you can still run those guys, like.

• 43:27Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 43:28Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, yeah.

• 43:28Speaker 04

  This loss is not gonna hurt Gary at all.

• 43:30Mark Gagnon?

  Okay.

• 43:30Speaker 04

  I don't think it helps him, cause he would've got a title shot immediately afterwards.

• 43:34Speaker 05

  Yeah, but I'm gonna still watch.

• 43:36Speaker 04

  Like, I think it qualified him and validated him in a way. You're like, oh, he's not a prospect. This is, this guy's good.

• 43:42Speaker 05

  Remember when Munoz took that fight last minute and got like demolished? But you still were like, I will watch every fight this guy does.

• 43:48Speaker 04

  Yeah. Wait, which one was Munoz again?

• 43:50Speaker 05

  Uh, he took a fight against what's his name last minute and just like got battered for five rounds.

• 43:55Mark Gagnon?

  I like that you're not going long anyway.

• 43:57Speaker 05

  I think, I think it might've been O'Malley.

• 43:58Speaker 04

  Oh, I think they're thinking of a different guy. I know the guy you're talking about.

• 44:01Speaker 05

  Is it a Brazilian guy? I thought it was Munoz.

• 44:04Speaker 04

  Maybe.

• 44:04Speaker 05

  What was it? Moutinho. Moutinho?

• 44:06Speaker 04

  Moutinho?

• 44:07Speaker 05

  My bad.

• 44:08Speaker 04

  Doesn't matter. Point is, if you show up and you, and you, and you, and you ball out, the UFC will reward it.

• 44:14Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 44:14Speaker 04

  Anyway, y'all are going to stake.

• 44:16Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 44:17Speaker 04

  The leader in global betting in US social casinos and gift baskets. Bet on top sports and political events and use the promo code flagrant for your welcome bonus. All right, now let's get back to the show. Shout out the blog, shout out, uh, DL Hughley, man, for being a fucking stand-up comedian. Try, try to get clicks. What happened to DL, bro?

• 44:39Speaker 06

  I don't know, it was sad, dude.

• 44:40Speaker 04

  That is, that is sad. Like, seeing him try to get clicks off this situation and also them trying to, yeah, this was the, also Jasmine Brand. Them trying to like reframe this narrative, this is one of the saddest shit I've ever seen. Cause as DL, I'm like, yo, you a comedian, like this is Kings of Comedy. I saw Kings of Comedy in the fucking movie theater.

• 44:59Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 45:00Speaker 04

  Like, I, with my boys in the movie theater, we're watching Kings of Comedy, it's the funniest thing I've ever seen. Like, seeing Bernie Mac for the first time, I was like crying laughing, I couldn't fucking believe it.

• 45:08Speaker 06

  My friend laughed so hard watching that, he threw up.

• 45:10Speaker 04

  It's awesome.

• 45:11Speaker 06

  Crazy.

• 45:12Speaker 04

  But it was just, you never seen something like that. Anyway, there's this clip that they're going around trying to say that I'm like being a victim now. Do you have the shit?

• 45:20Speaker 06

  Mm-hmm.

• 45:20Speaker 04

  They can play, play that shit. I've been posting shit like telling me they're gonna take out my family on like pictures of my child. Oh my god. You surprised by this? This is the nature of the game. Yeah, social media. Yeah, social media. It's like, like, but he says that line. He says that line. His parent, his- So Andrew Sosa's multiple Kendrick Lamar fans have threatened to kill his family over sexual assault joke.

• 45:42Speaker 06

  Ah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That last six words or whatever.

• 45:44Speaker 04

  Isn't that interesting?

• 45:45Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 45:46Speaker 04

  So what people don't know is that this was recorded before I ever said anything to Kendrick. This, you notice the outfit is the same outfit as Flagrant. We did the podcast the same day. Right? So I haven't said anything to Kendrick. This is the timeline. Kendrick drops the bar in the song, right? He says, you know, "Don't talk about black women. That's law" to a white comedian. Then he says, tells people to slide on the black dudes close to him. Alex and Charlamagne is what I interpreted. So basically kill his black friends, right? So

• 46:20Speaker 04

  death threats to them, death threats to me. And I was getting, and I was getting death- Of course, death threats to me, death threats to my family, telling they're gonna kill my daughter, posting on my daughter's-

• 46:30Speaker 06

  We still haven't posted an app.

• 46:32Speaker 04

  We haven't talked, I don't talk about it for two weeks, right? I go, "Okay, you saying death threats to all of us? You gonna talk shit about my daughter? Okay, it's up. I'mma fuck your man."

• 46:42Speaker 04

  Right? Cause if we say, if we saying anything, it's like, let's have some fun. It's still funny. I'mma fuck your man. It's still funny. Right?

• 46:48Speaker 06

  Central love.

• 46:49Speaker 04

  No, but then we gonna, we gonna do the molding of his butt. I'm hanging it on the wall.

• 46:54Speaker 04

  That's it. I'm hanging on the wall so I can put, remember that? Remember that? That happened. This is it. So you talk some shit, right? I can see them taking this, oh, he said hang- Uh oh. Oh yeah, and then immediately, I, I, so you say, you say the shit, you say, kill my friends, and then all of your fans come out, not all of them, but fans come out, they give death threats to all of us, they're talking shit about my 10-month-old daughter, right, saying they're gonna kill her, and then I go, I'm gonna have, make sweet love to Kendrick, and now all of a sudden, all the fans are like, how could you do that? You're taking it too far. Jokes are not funny. Yeah, we should murder your family and everything like that, and that's totally fine, but, oh my god, they're like clutching their fucking pearls, right?

• 47:33Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 47:33Speaker 04

  I'm like, hold up, how did you become the victim again? He really is the Taylor Swift of hip-hop. Like, Taylor is the biggest artist in the world, she's still the victim somehow, she's the victim with Scooter, she's the victim with her boyfriend, she's the victim with the labels. Kendrick, the exact same thing, he's the biggest rapper right now. Destroy Drake, uh, Drake.

• 47:55Speaker 04

  Can't talk about Kendrick, Val Sanders. No, destroy Drake and about, he's number one, and somehow still, he's the victim that he started.

• 48:02Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 48:04Speaker 04

  And immediately the fans, oh, oh, you're, this is so racist. How is it racist to make sweet love to my little rascal? How is that racist? How is that racist? Did you know about this term, buck breaking?

• 48:17Mark Gagnon?

  I, I wasn't familiar with the term.

• 48:19Speaker 04

  Nobody knows about this shit. But now they make it racist, they try and make me a pedophile? Did you guys see this shit?

• 48:24Speaker 06

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 48:25Speaker 04

  This shit was hilarious. No, this shit, we gotta talk about. This shit was next level. So, one of my exes, she, uh, has been turning 29 for the last five years.

• 48:36Speaker 04

  I don't know, just because, you know, Hollywood isn't great to people that are trying to make it, and they're in their 30s or whatever, but they looked at the ages, and they're like, oh, she's 29 years old still, and they're like, oh, she must have been 16 when they're dating. I go, 16? I go, I was on five shows on MTV when we were dating. How the fuck am I in a public relationship with a 16-year-old? I go, look, there's her on X Factor saying she's 23, and I'm like, wait a minute, this girl's lying about her age, they believed the lie, now they're posting it, trying to turn me into pedophile. So the Kendrick fans are just going.

• 49:08Mark Gagnon?

  That's crazy.

• 49:09Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 49:10Speaker 04

  Racist! These are their two things that they do.

• 49:13Mark Gagnon?

  And mind you, she is black, so they're calling you a racist, and your ex-girlfriend was a black girl.

• 49:17Speaker 04

  I'm, I'm a racist and I'm a pedophile.

• 49:21Speaker 04

  I'm racist and I'm a pedophile. Yeah.

• 49:25Speaker 04

  Tough week. Tough week. Not tough at all. Fuck that shit. That shit was funny.

• 49:29Speaker 06

  He loved it. I was shocked how much he loved it.

• 49:31Speaker 04

  I'll be honest, it was, because when I sat back and I was like, let me see what they're gonna throw out. Because I know that they're gonna go crazy. And once I said, did the thing on the pod, once we did the flagrant episode, I was like, I know they're gonna go crazy. I was like, I'm sitting back, I'm gonna see, they're gonna throw the kitchen sink at me. I already know. And I was like, alright, let's see what they got, let's see what they got. They start throwing out everything, oh, he's racist, of course, that's the first thing they're obviously gonna go. Then they do the pedophilia shit, and I'm like, alright, yeah, of course, yeah, okay, good. Uh, bullshit. Community note, hit them real quick on that.

• 49:57Speaker 06

  Yeah, yeah.

• 49:58Speaker 04

  Shout out to Elon, bro. That shit came in clutch, that was fire. And then, um, and then, so I'm like, okay, let's see, okay, that's, that's all they got. And then the celebs started getting comfy, right? Because they saw, they're like, ooh, there's a, there's a trend in this direction, let's pile on.

• 50:12Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 50:13Speaker 04

  The second I saw these cornball ass celebs trying to pile on, Meek tried to pile on, he's like, yeah, this is what they do. He made fun of me, called me gay, and his stand-up, that shit was fucked up. I got a tweet of Meek saying, that shit was funny, bro, I like that. That's the first time I've ever laughed at being called gay.

• 50:27Speaker 06

  Actually, he didn't say being called gay.

• 50:29Speaker 04

  What'd he say?

• 50:29Speaker 06

  He said that's the first time I laughed at being gay.

• 50:31Speaker 04

  I almost feel bad for him. I almost didn't want to do that, because I'm like, poor Meek, can I help himself?

• 50:36Mark Gagnon?

  If anyone has a reason to be mad, you know what I mean, it's him. You were cooking him in that clip.

• 50:40Speaker 04

  Anyway, so he, and then Ice Cube's son tried to post some shit, and I just put it right under it, and I'm like, why don't you look up, uh, Google, no Vaseline by your dad? And now he's in the comments explaining himself, well, technically, that was a, a joke, it was a metaphor. It wasn't a real thing that was actually gonna happen. I'm like, oh, oh, really? Is that it?

• 51:00Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, he must not have heard it in a while, because those aren't all metaphors.

• 51:04Speaker 04

  There's some. I see Ren's dick taste like the shit in Eazy's ass or something.

• 51:09Mark Gagnon?

  Talking about sticking a broom up somebody's ass, like, how do you make that into a metaphor? I don't know.

• 51:15Speaker 04

  The broom was actually really the oppression that black people had to endure from the record industry. No. No, it was, it's just crazy to see it happen. And then to see people jumping on the narratives. The only thing that annoyed me was that one that they tried to push out, DL, and then I guess Jasmine Brand, tried to push out, because they tried to make it seem like I was being a victim after what I said. No. They said that shit to, to me and you and Sharla, and I was like, it's up then. If y'all wanna go there, we could go there. And I promise that you're not comfortable there. And the second I went there, what happened? This is too fun. You can't make jokes about unless of course you're making them about people that we think it's funny. Unless of course you're every TV show unless of course it's like literally everything they brought up.

• 51:59Speaker 04

  They brought up this clip with Cat Williams going is never funny. And then literally Friday after next, he's in a scene where he's about to get

• 52:06Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 52:07Speaker 04

  He's like, what? Did you pee on me? And I posted as he is like, come on.

• 52:12Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah. People can make jokes about things. You can make jokes about things.

• 52:15Speaker 04

  Everyone gets these jokes.

• 52:17Mark Gagnon?

  The thing like the people who are upset are people who don't watch the show. And so I can actually understand it's like if you take a clip out of context and you're like, wait, this is a podcast. These podcasts is usually serious. You're just people around sitting and talking. So if you actually take what you say as serious, I can understand why people will get upset at it. But it's like, once you realize this is a comedy podcast, you're a comedian and you're making jokes. Like you came back with your art, the same way that Kendrick came at you.

• 52:45Speaker 04

  Oh, well said.

• 52:47Mark Gagnon?

  So it's like, hey, you can not like it, but you can't like crucify a person for it. Just don't tune into it.

• 52:54Speaker 04

  Yo, so like

• 52:55Mark Gagnon?

  That's the biggest way to protest.

• 52:57Speaker 04

  This is

• 52:57Mark Gagnon?

  Don't tune in.

• 52:58Speaker 04

  Oh, speaking of protests.

• 53:01Speaker 04

  But we'll get to, we'll get to the protests. But like, I agree with you. There's this misconception that like, you can't react poorly to a joke. You can be offended by a joke.

• 53:13Mark Gagnon?

  Exactly.

• 53:13Speaker 04

  This is the thing like comedians, at least us, we're not saying you can't be offended by a joke. We're not saying that you cannot like it. You can hate it. You know how much comedy we hate? We probably hate way more comedy than y'all hate. There's probably way more comedy that's like not offensive to us in terms of like, oh my God, I can't believe I heard that. But offensive just to the art of comedy. It's just bad. Right? There's tons of shit coming out there.

• 53:35Mark Gagnon?

  And it might not be bad. It's just not our company.

• 53:37Speaker 04

  It's not our company. We don't like, but you should be able to do it. So you can react to these jokes. You can look at all my jokes and be like, I don't find these funny. This is fucked up. The second you tell me I can't joke about a group of people. Now we have a disagreement.

• 53:48Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 53:49Speaker 04

  It's like The second you tell people to kill my friends. Now we have an issue. So you took it to violence and you tried to censor my art. You did two no-nos for me. And I reacted accordingly.

• 54:02Mark Gagnon?

  And we didn't play the victim by showing all of our DMs of the death threats and all that stuff. We just came back with comedy.

• 54:08Speaker 04

  Yo, that's it.

• 54:09Mark Gagnon?

  That's what we came back with.

• 54:10Speaker 04

  That's it. We come back with comedy and they don't want to be in the kitchen.

• 54:13Mark Gagnon?

  That's fine.

• 54:13Speaker 04

  We like the kitchen. It's nice in the kitchen.

• 54:16Mark Gagnon?

  I found the joke funny. I still stand by laughing.

• 54:19Speaker 06

  I know it was so over the top silly. It's so obvious it's a joke. And then people are taking it to slay and it's like, what the fuck are we doing, guys? It's the point of being so over the top is so on some level, you understand we're all kidding.

• 54:31Speaker 04

  It was a joke. Now I'm serious. Fuck, I'm fucking his butt.

• 54:36Mark Gagnon?

  And then they're gonna take that and be like, see?

• 54:39Speaker 04

  No, no.

• 54:40Mark Gagnon?

  I gotta, I gotta fuck it now, dude. I gotta get the molding and put it on the wall. I need a before and after. The worst DM I got was somebody who was like, yo, I hope you have a horrible Christmas.

• 54:53Speaker 04

  Why would Dove DM you that? That's so crazy that he would do that. And you wore the jacket today in protest. That is so crazy.

• 55:01Speaker 06

  A horrible Christmas and a happy Hanukkah.

• 55:02Mark Gagnon?

  That was the worst one I got. I'm like, damn, bro. He's gonna ruin my holiday.

• 55:05Speaker 04

  Damn.

• 55:05Mark Gagnon?

  At least, at least wish death on me or something.

• 55:10Speaker 04

  That's a reasonable insult, fuck. Yeah, no, that was, that was just crazy. Just seeing the, the, the immediately turn into victims was just so corny. The fact that they're protesting. I, listen, I'm gonna, I'm gonna put this out as it's a fan, okay? I'm not gonna say it comes from Kendrick or his team or his publicist. I'm gonna say that this is a random fan acting completely separately from them. But basically, they put out an ad where they're paying protesters to show up to my Hawaii show. December 21st, uh, ticket link down there. You'll see it. Uh, at the Blaisdell Arena. They're paying protesters. Now, I don't know who's providing the money.

• 55:53Speaker 06

  $250 is not nothing.

• 55:55Speaker 04

  Low key, I'm almost like... Should we all go and I just do a show outside?

• 56:00Speaker 06

  If a thousand people show up, that's $250,000.

• 56:03Speaker 04

  So who's gonna pay that? Who would have that kind of money? Probably a really obsessive fan. That's it. Now, I'm not saying it's coming from their team. I'm not saying it's coming from Kendrick. But this is, and by the way, they're paying full, that's like full price. That's not 30% off like their streams. This is a full price. Dang it, they're paying. Imagine being like an artist artist who like really believes in creativity and in censoring other artists. Now, I'm not saying it's Kendrick. It's probably just a one random fan with like millions and millions of dollars that he would like to deploy to protesting a show in Hawaii of mine. Probably has nothing to do with the team freaking out and in shambles because they've

• 56:47Speaker 04

  never been made fun of on the internet. And their only reactions go, "You're racist." "Oh, you're so racist." "'Cause you want to butt fuck my guy."

• 56:57Speaker 06

  You know what hurt me the most? When you said Kendrick made music for dudes under 5'10" and he's my number one artist on my Spotify.

• 57:04Speaker 04

  He does. He does make music for dudes under 5'10.

• 57:07Speaker 06

  And number one in two songs. That's what hurt me the most personally. I took that as like painfully true.

• 57:12Speaker 04

  No, no, he does make.

• 57:13Mark Gagnon?

  You need to stop wearing lifts.

• 57:20Speaker 04

  He was all the six god.

• 57:25Speaker 04

  But no, I think it is like, I never met like a dude 6'4" who's like, "Man, I love Kendrick Lamar." Right? It's more of like a shorter guy thing, right? Like it is.

• 57:36Speaker 04

  I'm just saying.

• 57:37Speaker 06

  I can't argue with you.

• 57:37Speaker 04

  I just, but I get.

• 57:39Speaker 06

  I can't argue with you.

• 57:39Speaker 04

  I get, because you see him and he's like Iron Man to you or whatever, right? He's like a Marvel superhero. He's like, "One of us can do it."

• 57:46Speaker 06

  He did that whole concert, didn't drink water.

• 57:48Speaker 04

  Didn't drink water?

• 57:49Speaker 06

  Superhero.

• 57:49Speaker 04

  How does he fucking do it?

• 57:51Speaker 06

  No, I love this guy.

• 57:52Speaker 04

  But I do, yeah. It is like that type of, it's for people that are a little short. Like that's what I think. There's no way there's a guy 6'2", 6'3".

• 58:02Speaker 06

  Short King Kendrick, no?

• 58:03Speaker 04

  Short King Kendrick. It's that energy. It's why there's a protest out of the show. It's like. It's a

• 58:09Mark Gagnon?

  I'm surprised you should I would my advice to you was like keep it low just tell your fans about this and have everybody who's showing up to the show get paid.

• 58:19Speaker 04

  Yeah, that's what I wanted.

• 58:20Mark Gagnon?

  That's what you should have did.

• 58:21Speaker 04

  And then just drain the bank account.

• 58:22Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 58:23Speaker 04

  The prob there's one problem. So this is what I wanted to do. I was like, yo, let's all just go get paid. But then it's This is so fucking funny. The protest is a minimum requirement of four hours. So You can't even just protest regular.

• 58:39Speaker 06

  Yeah, you gotta find a way to broadcast the hour outside. Once the show sells out, wait till tickets sell out. Once tickets sell out, if tickets sell out, once you buy, then we'll find a way to broadcast it outside and then everybody just gets to pay $250 to go to a show.

• 58:53Speaker 04

  I mean, that would be good, but then they're just gonna post it all over here and that's the Netflix thing. That's okay. That was that Punjabi brain coming out.

• 59:06Speaker 04

  Shout out Punjabis. We love you.

• 59:08Speaker 05

  Delay the show and you gotta go for four hours dressed as Luigi Mangione.

• 59:13Speaker 05

  That's what you should do.

• 59:16Speaker 04

  Waluigi Mangione.

• 59:18Speaker 06

  You got a booger and you're writing off.

• 59:20Mark Gagnon?

  I didn't realize the four hour thing. Nah, they were sorry with that.

• 59:22Speaker 04

  But you know, the idea of like paying people to protest like.

• 59:25Speaker 05

  But also like you're gonna be in Hawaii.

• 59:27Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 59:28Speaker 05

  Like if I don't know what Hawaiian is gonna spend four hours being mad.

• 59:31Speaker 04

  Yo, first of all, Hawaiians don't get let me tell you something about Hawaiians. Like I I I've been to Hawaii a few times. Hawaiians do not take kindly to outsiders telling them what they can or can't do. Okay, Hawaiians don't give a fuck what no outsider tells them what they can or can't laugh at, what they can or can't joke around about that. Hawaiians do what Hawaiians fucking do. So I, yeah, you could try to tell Hawaiians what to do all you want. You could try, but it ain't gonna fucking happen. I promise you that. Hawaii is the only place where they're openly just call people from America. They're from America too, but they call the rest of us Howlies.

• 1:00:09Speaker 04

  Like openly and then we just all go along with it. They don't give a fuck. And also they're like, oh, it's a racist comedy show. Hawaiians look at that, they're like, ooh, I can't. This is gonna be fun. They have immense comfort with race-based humor. There's so many different people there. And the way that they can, you know, I guess, come together culturally is making fun of each other. It's like built into the culture, so.

• 1:00:32Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:00:33Speaker 04

  Anyway, yeah, I'm hyped about the show. I think it's funny, but I also just think it's funny that these are the type of fans. Protest a comedy show is the type of thing.

• 1:00:42Speaker 06

  It's still sixty, what, sixty-five dollars an hour, something like that? Sixty-two, fifty an hour to go protest?

• 1:00:45Speaker 04

  I feel bad saying it in front of my nanny.

• 1:00:50Speaker 04

  I felt bad even saying it. I was like, they're protesting. She's like, how much they protesting for? I was like, oh, man, I don't know.

• 1:00:57Speaker 04

  This woman's watching the most important thing in my life, my baby. You know what I mean? She not making that money. Sixty-five an hour? How rich is Kendrick?

• 1:01:09Mark Gagnon?

  It's not Kendrick, it's not Kendrick.

• 1:01:11Speaker 04

  I'm sorry, how rich is this one specific benevolent fan of Kendrick?

• 1:01:17Speaker 06

  I still think it's worth signing up for sixty-two, fifty an hour if you're a fan.

• 1:01:20Speaker 04

  I'm a hundred percent.

• 1:01:21Speaker 05

  I'll be there. Crazy?

• 1:01:24Speaker 04

  Can you just get, can we just get one twenty-five? Just show up for the first two.

• 1:01:28Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:01:28Speaker 04

  And then go to the show.

• 1:01:29Speaker 05

  Yeah. Yeah, is it tax-free also? Like, how do they pay? Is it like W-2 or something?

• 1:01:34Speaker 04

  I got no clue. How do you think Kendrick would pay? Crayons or some shit like that?

• 1:01:37Speaker 05

  Disgusting.

• 1:01:40Speaker 04

  What about Lunchalies?

• 1:01:44Speaker 04

  You could get a moldy cheese.

• 1:01:48Speaker 05

  Can't say that.

• 1:01:50Speaker 04

  A moldy cheese a Lunchalies?

• 1:01:52Speaker 05

  That was you being Punjabi right there.

• 1:01:54Speaker 04

  Yeah, I did have it.

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• 1:03:10Speaker 04

  Speaking of it being a tough week for rappers. How about Jay-Z?

• 1:03:16Mark Gagnon?

  Innocent.

• 1:03:18Speaker 06

  We didn't even say what happened.

• 1:03:21Speaker 04

  They saying he, he killed that, you, the health guy.

• 1:03:24Speaker 06

  What?

• 1:03:25Speaker 04

  He killed the UnitedHealth guy. They said Jay-Z did that. Yeah. It wasn't Luigi Mangione. He's like a made up Italian. That's not a real person.

• 1:03:33Mark Gagnon?

  He's an innocent hero.

• 1:03:34Speaker 04

  He's an innocent hero. Damn right.

• 1:03:36Speaker 06

  That's crazy.

• 1:03:37Speaker 04

  Let me tell you something about this. This is a reminder to never beef with 50 Cent. Matter of fact, we need 50 on the pod immediately. But this is a reminder to never beef with 50 Cent because these allegations came out. And 50 is in the comments. Jay-Z went to, I guess, the premiere of Mufasa, the movie. It's a prequel to The Lion King. And it's Jay-Z, Beyonce, Beyonce's mom and their daughter.

• 1:04:03Mark Gagnon?

  And Blue Ivy, yeah.

• 1:04:04Speaker 04

  And Blue Ivy. And 50 Cent comment, he goes, Jay said, they said I was a kid. Everybody get dressed. We going to see Mufasa.

• 1:04:19Speaker 04

  He's so deliberate with his words.

• 1:04:21Speaker 06

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:04:22Speaker 04

  He's saying, Jay said, they said I to kid.

• 1:04:26Speaker 06

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:04:27Speaker 04

  If, if it's Jay the kid, let's go see Mufasa.

• 1:04:30Speaker 06

  That's libel.

• 1:04:31Speaker 05

  Can't do that.

• 1:04:33Mark Gagnon?

  That's funny. I don't want to like it, but that's just funny.

• 1:04:36Speaker 04

  Bro, he's too funny. He's too diabolical. And also, he's getting everything for Christmas. Diddy out here, Jay got a allegation. It's what I always say. If, if Fenty don't fuck with you.

• 1:04:48Speaker 06

  That's a problem.

• 1:04:49Speaker 04

  I don't fuck with you.

• 1:04:50Speaker 06

  Very true, dude.

• 1:04:51Speaker 04

  Unless you got tickets to the Super Bowl, I might fuck with you until then. Cause I gotta see my favorite artist perform.

• 1:05:00Speaker 04

  I gotta see my favorite artist perform.

• 1:05:02Mark Gagnon?

  Lil Wayne's not performing.

• 1:05:03Speaker 04

  Oh, he's not? They got a little someone.

• 1:05:08Speaker 04

  Who do they got a little up there? I know they got, yo, maybe the NFL just mistook them.

• 1:05:15Speaker 05

  They got a switch up?

• 1:05:16Speaker 04

  Yeah, maybe there's a little mix up and it was, you know.

• 1:05:18Mark Gagnon?

  Nah, that's enough, that's enough by play.

• 1:05:20Speaker 04

  Yo, do you think that he says, he says certified pedophile? And you think he says A minor at the Super Bowl? Kendrick?

• 1:05:28Mark Gagnon?

  I think he does.

• 1:05:28Speaker 06

  He has to.

• 1:05:29Speaker 04

  I don't think he says it.

• 1:05:30Mark Gagnon?

  I think he does.

• 1:05:30Speaker 04

  And if he doesn't say it.

• 1:05:33Speaker 06

  A minor has to go. I mean, it has to be said.

• 1:05:35Speaker 04

  I don't think he says pedophile. Maybe A minor, cause it's double entendre. So you could get away with it. You back, that's not what I meant.

• 1:05:41Speaker 06

  Yeah, chord.

• 1:05:42Speaker 04

  Right, which is, which is, uh, some people call a joke.

• 1:05:46Speaker 04

  A very funny joke about, uh, you know, girls. Which we all sing out loud as hilarious, cause that is, that is jokable. You can laugh about girls.

• 1:05:54Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:05:55Speaker 04

  Uh, it's very funny. But when you're the girl.

• 1:06:00Speaker 04

  When you become the girl, you know what I mean? A, consensual or don't. That is a problem. But I think that he won't say it. I don't think he says certified pedophile.

• 1:06:12Speaker 06

  What if he says like PDF file or something like that?

• 1:06:14Speaker 04

  I just don't, I think, I just think the NFL is like, we don't want the word pedophile getting yelled out on this family friendly broadcast to the entire world.

• 1:06:23Speaker 05

  Agreed.

• 1:06:24Speaker 04

  We don't want it now.

• 1:06:25Speaker 06

  I think he says A minor, but he might try to do PDF.

• 1:06:27Mark Gagnon?

  I think he says it and I think the broadcast mutes it. But I think he still says it. Because the lyric is actually, if I'm not mistaken, talking about Drake's friend. He's like, "Baka got a case, why is he around?" Certified, da-da-da, certified pedophile. I don't think, yeah, I don't think that lyric is actually about Drake.

• 1:06:47Speaker 05

  But I don't think that changes it.

• 1:06:48Speaker 04

  No, I know that.

• 1:06:49Speaker 06

  Say Drake, "I heard you like I'm young." That's about Drake.

• 1:06:52Speaker 04

  Yeah, I think that's about Drake. Why, how did you get that that is about Drake? Explain that to hell. Explain that one to hell. Explain rap to me.

• 1:07:06Speaker 04

  No, no, so my feeling is the NFL won't let him say it. And if he doesn't say it, if he does say it, that's respect. If he does say it, that's like, fuck the industry. I'm not gonna be told what to do. I'm an artist, I can say whatever the fuck I want. Now, if he doesn't say it, what's the criticism?

• 1:07:23Speaker 06

  Oh, they'll find a way to justify it.

• 1:07:26Speaker 04

  Of course, his fans are gonna justify anything. His Swifties. But what is the criticism of, like, does Drake get a point? On the, in the battle?

• 1:07:37Mark Gagnon?

  Unfortunately, no.

• 1:07:38Speaker 04

  No.

• 1:07:39Mark Gagnon?

  It's Drake's two down bet.

• 1:07:41Speaker 04

  That's fair.

• 1:07:42Speaker 06

  Yeah, I don't think he gets a point, but I think, like, a lot of moderate people will be like, "Oh, he didn't say it?"

• 1:07:48Speaker 04

  Oh, you're willing to bend. You're willing to bend for an industry. You're not willing to stand by your words. You're not willing... Now, to be honest, anybody who's performed at the Super Bowl probably hasn't been able to curse, hasn't been able to say things.

• 1:07:58Speaker 05

  Every rapper that's performed has words they can't say.

• 1:08:00Speaker 04

  But if you're gonna play the song that is about calling the dude a pedophile, and then you don't call him the pedophile?

• 1:08:05Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:08:06Speaker 04

  Seems a little...

• 1:08:07Speaker 06

  It's a beef. It's not a normal, this is the craziest hit that is a beef song, even more than back-to-back, I think.

• 1:08:14Speaker 04

  It's his biggest song by far.

• 1:08:15Speaker 06

  So if you go there, you gotta do that song. It's your hit, but it is also a beef song. So taking the beef out of it, now what is it? It's not the same song. You see what I'm saying? Most rap songs, you can take out the cuss words and it's the same song. This one, you can't take out the Drake disses, and it'd still be the same song.

• 1:08:31Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah. Like I said, I feel like he's gonna say it, and I think they'll just mute it in the broadcast.

• 1:08:36Speaker 05

  It's on a delay, probably.

• 1:08:38Speaker 06

  Probably his best move is to tell the NFL, "This is getting said, get your mute button ready."

• 1:08:42Speaker 04

  I think, and I would respect the fuck out of that, Loki. I respect the fuck out of that. Stand by your art, say whatever the fuck you want.

• 1:08:49Speaker 06

  I respect the high key, 5'7", I love him. I love this guy. I love this guy.

• 1:08:54Speaker 05

  The number one artist.

• 1:08:55Speaker 06

  Honestly, you kind of freed me up to say I love him when you said that.

• 1:08:57Speaker 04

  There's nothing wrong with loving, you should love him, he's for you.

• 1:09:00Speaker 06

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's my guy.

• 1:09:02Speaker 04

  He's your chapel Rome. Like, when short dudes, listen to Kendrick, they're doing that. A-H-O-T-T-O-G-O.

• 1:09:10Speaker 06

  That's me.

• 1:09:13Speaker 05

  No, I like that.

• 1:09:14Speaker 04

  I almost got it.

• 1:09:15Speaker 05

  I was trying to think how to spell that shit. I was thinking, I was like, how do you spell it?

• 1:09:19Speaker 04

  Fucking damn, Mark.

• 1:09:21Speaker 05

  Damn. I think he can say it. Yeah, I mean, is it against the broadcast rules? I'm reading all these FCC rules and it doesn't seem like he's not allowed to say it.

• 1:09:28Speaker 04

  No, it's not whether it breaks the rule, it's whether you want that word screamed out.

• 1:09:32Speaker 06

  If the NFL wants to deal with that.

• 1:09:34Speaker 05

  Dr. Dre, so Dr. Dre admitted that the NFL did request minor changes and I think that. Get it? We'll catch you. He's back.

• 1:09:45Speaker 05

  The 2022 show, Kendrick Lamar's "All Right to Line" and we, I won't even say all the lines. He omitted a couple of things. Lamaro made, omitted, popo.

• 1:09:57Speaker 04

  Popo?

• 1:09:57Speaker 05

  Oh wow, he couldn't even say that.

• 1:09:59Speaker 06

  Yeah, dog, come on, this is the NFL.

• 1:10:01Speaker 04

  Oh, he not saying A minor, he not saying nothing.

• 1:10:04Speaker 05

  What if he doesn't do the song?

• 1:10:05Speaker 04

  But now, if he doesn't do the song, that's a point to Drake.

• 1:10:08Speaker 05

  Or is it like, I'm not even gonna make it about you?

• 1:10:10Speaker 04

  If he avoids the whole song.

• 1:10:12Speaker 05

  Yeah. That's kind of, yeah.

• 1:10:14Speaker 04

  That's a point to Drake.

• 1:10:15Speaker 05

  I'll give him.

• 1:10:16Speaker 04

  It's either Drake made it happen, or you weren't really willing to stand up for your art. Because, if I'm not mistaken, Eminem said, "I'm not doing a Super Bowl unless 50 is gonna be there."

• 1:10:29Speaker 06

  That's awesome.

• 1:10:30Speaker 04

  He stood up for his art. He's like, "I need him to be there, this is an important moment and I need him to be part of this." Stood up for it. I would rather not do it, I'd rather not do it, if he's not gonna be there.

• 1:10:44Speaker 04

  You gonna not do your most popular song in the height of its popularity at the fucking Super Bowl? Nah, bro, you gotta do it.

• 1:10:52Speaker 05

  He does have to. Yeah, there were gang references that were asked. From Kendrick.

• 1:10:57Speaker 06

  And the Po Bo thing, probably the NFL was like, dog, the Colin Kaepernick shit is still fresh in everybody's mind, I don't want it. And to him, it's probably like, I don't care that much. I'm doing one song, but if it's my performance, I have to do this song. I think he does the song. And either he says, I think, like PDF files or something, or what you said, which is, NFL, I'm saying it, get ready to dump it. That's just what it is.

• 1:11:19Speaker 04

  I think that's the smartest way to do it. That's by far. And then what's gonna happen is they'll dump him saying it, but the crowd will say it. And then you get the best of both worlds.

• 1:11:29Speaker 06

  Or yeah, what if he could do, certified lover boy, certified.

• 1:11:33Speaker 05

  Exactly. That's fire.

• 1:11:35Speaker 06

  That would be a good workaround.

• 1:11:37Speaker 04

  That's not good.

• 1:11:39Mark Gagnon?

  Now 50 posted and he said, what's going on? Are we still gonna even have the Super Bowl?

• 1:11:44Speaker 04

  What does Jay do to 50? Do you remember? I love it.

• 1:11:50Speaker 06

  Whatever video that is.

• 1:11:51Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, why don't they get along? Cause I know back, back in the day, they didn't get along. Like 50, Jay had a line for 50 in like one of his earlier.

• 1:12:01Speaker 06

  But that was a response to 50 going at Jay, right?

• 1:12:04Speaker 04

  On how to rap.

• 1:12:05Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah. But like, I'm sure some behind the scenes shit has happened, cause, and also ego.

• 1:12:10Speaker 06

  Yeah, Jay probably didn't forget that as 50 came up.

• 1:12:14Speaker 05

  So do you think the Jay-Z thing just gets thrown out?

• 1:12:16Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah. Yeah.

• 1:12:18Speaker 05

  Nothing comes of it?

• 1:12:19Mark Gagnon?

  He's innocent.

• 1:12:20Speaker 04

  He's innocent, bro.

• 1:12:21Mark Gagnon?

  Until proven guilty.

• 1:12:22Speaker 04

  He's innocent.

• 1:12:23Mark Gagnon?

  And this is America.

• 1:12:24Speaker 06

  You said it like it was gonna happen. You said until proven guilty, like it was gonna happen.

• 1:12:28Mark Gagnon?

  If proven guilty.

• 1:12:29Speaker 04

  I hate, like, I mean, what is the, what are they basically saying? Like she's, the allegations are that she was 13, trying to get into the Radio City show or something like that.

• 1:12:41Mark Gagnon?

  VMAs.

• 1:12:42Speaker 04

  What was that?

• 1:12:43Mark Gagnon?

  VMAs after party.

• 1:12:44Speaker 04

  VMAs after.

• 1:12:45Speaker 06

  She's trying to get in the VMAs, yeah, then.

• 1:12:46Speaker 04

  The VMAs are, I think, at Radio City. And then she was trying to get into the after party and then she was driven around. And then there's like, the stories getting a little wonky. It's also happened how long ago? Like 20 years ago?

• 1:12:57Speaker 05

  I think it's 2000.

• 1:12:59Speaker 04

  Like, I don't know, bro.

• 1:13:00Mark Gagnon?

  Twenty four years ago, that's crazy.

• 1:13:01Speaker 04

  But here's the thing, the al- the allegation, Al, you are a writer, God, bro.

• 1:13:06Mark Gagnon?

  I love you.

• 1:13:08Speaker 04

  No, but I wanna say, I wanna say, it's like, I'm like, I, I hate the idea that just allegations can go automatically incriminate people.

• 1:13:15Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:13:15Speaker 04

  Yeah, I think the allegation shit is corny, but I also think we're moving away from a time where an allegation is a conviction. There was a time during Me Too where it was just the second you said something, it's over. And I think now there's been so many things said that people just do not give a fuck about.

• 1:13:30Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:13:30Speaker 04

  That we're like, oh.

• 1:13:32Mark Gagnon?

  It's our Me Too now, we're just a little late to the party.

• 1:13:36Speaker 04

  What a surprise.

• 1:13:37Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, nah, but real talk.

• 1:13:39Speaker 04

  But do you know what I'm saying?

• 1:13:40Mark Gagnon?

  I don't like that for a civil case, you can still be John Doe, Jane Doe, whatever.

• 1:13:47Speaker 04

  Ooh.

• 1:13:48Mark Gagnon?

  I don't like that.

• 1:13:48Speaker 04

  Can you break that, that down to people, the difference between a civil case and a criminal?

• 1:13:53Mark Gagnon?

  So criminal, hey, you get charged for a crime and I'm, my justice is you going to jail for it. Civil is like, hey, I'm just suing for damages and usually it's a monetary payout. And it's like, I think, hey.

• 1:14:06Speaker 04

  But it's for the same what you, it's, it's for the same act.

• 1:14:10Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, for the same act.

• 1:14:11Speaker 04

  You've been wronged by that person and you're not gonna go to jail, but I want you to pay me for what you've done to me, the pain.

• 1:14:16Mark Gagnon?

  And to be guilty for criminal, it's beyond reasonable doubt. For civil, you only have to have just like a suspicion, like at least fifty one percent.

• 1:14:25Speaker 04

  It's a much easier conviction for civil. That's like OJ, I think, was convicted for civil, but not for criminal, yeah.

• 1:14:31Mark Gagnon?

  And so I don't think that you should be able to just file a civil lawsuit, but then not identify yourself.

• 1:14:38Speaker 04

  That's, and, and break that down, tell me more.

• 1:14:40Mark Gagnon?

  It's like, like the damage is already done with, well, I wouldn't say done, but this is already hurting Jay-Z just by making the accusation. And it's like, this person doesn't want him to seek justice. He, you don't want him to go to jail, you just wanna payout. So it's like, hey, if you wanna payout and that's gonna make you feel better, then at least you should be half, you should have to say your name.

• 1:15:01Speaker 04

  So this is really interesting. Because I've, I've thought this about even criminal, but the idea is that if there are women, for example, that are victims of, you know, sexual assaults, they, they what, fear for their life if they're coming out, that they could be attacked.

• 1:15:17Speaker 06

  Coming out against somebody with a lot of fans.

• 1:15:19Speaker 04

  With a lot of power, fame.

• 1:15:20Speaker 06

  Like, you know, their name out there, rabid fans can just be hitting them up, threatening them, fuck you, you slut, whatever, maybe physical violence, what, like, they're out there now, and now you can dock somebody fairly easily.

• 1:15:32Mark Gagnon?

  Anybody can sue another person, and it's like, the damage for Jay-Z is happening right now.

• 1:15:37Speaker 06

  But a sexual assault is different than a lawsuit. It's very odd that we're on such, well, really flipped on this. You're the guy that wants to pay government employees who do nothing for two years, but if a girl potentially gets [BLEEP] by somebody, you're like, say the name.

• 1:15:49Speaker 04

  No, no, no, no, no. He's saying criminally, you should hide the name.

• 1:15:53Mark Gagnon?

  Yes.

• 1:15:53Speaker 04

  But for civil, if you're just asking for monetary gain.

• 1:15:56Speaker 06

  I still see how, again, if you are coming at a Jay-Z, or a Diddy, or a fucking Tom Brady, not to say any, but like, people that are super famous, there are super fans who are insane, once your name is out there, they can get the address, they can get your family's address, they can do anything they want to, because you're coming at, my god. It doesn't matter who the artist is, if they are famous, there are repercussions that could come with that, that you do not deserve. Even...

• 1:16:23Speaker 04

  But, but that's, but, I get your point, but I'm saying is, for, for justice, criminal justice, meaning you go to jail for committing a crime, you get to hide your identity. For profit, to make money off of the circumstances, the horrible circumstances that you were in, you can hide your name. That's the idea. Like, so you don't hide your name, that's what I'll say. Like, if you're trying to make money, we should know who's trying to make money off of this situation.

• 1:16:46Speaker 06

  Well, I think also...

• 1:16:47Mark Gagnon?

  Because anybody could sit, and sometimes people just...

• 1:16:50Speaker 04

  Not anybody, sorry, not anybody can take a criminal case, because, so, you know what I mean? So it's like, any random person can just go out there and say, anybody did anything. But they can't do that criminally, because a judge will throw it out, they'll be like, there's no grounds...

• 1:17:02Mark Gagnon?

  Yes.

• 1:17:02Speaker 04

  For this at all.

• 1:17:03Mark Gagnon?

  With this, anyone can do it. So I can go right now and say, yo, Kendrick, fuck me in my ass.

• 1:17:09Speaker 05

  Whoa, ow, come on, bro.

• 1:17:11Mark Gagnon?

  I can make, I can sue him right now for that shit. And a lot of the times, people with a lot of money will just be like, yo, I don't even want to deal with that shit.

• 1:17:18Speaker 05

  Here's your little money.

• 1:17:19Speaker 04

  Cause it's actually cheaper to pay than it is to go through all the lawyer bills.

• 1:17:23Speaker 06

  I'm not completely, I'm not dug in like that.

• 1:17:25Speaker 05

  No, no, no, no, no.

• 1:17:27Speaker 04

  No, no, no, no, no.

• 1:17:28Mark Gagnon?

  You know what? I don't think we can joke about that.

• 1:17:31Speaker 04

  I enjoyed that.

• 1:17:32Speaker 05

  Yeah, that was fire.

• 1:17:33Speaker 04

  I fucking liked that.

• 1:17:33Speaker 05

  Yeah, that was sick.

• 1:17:34Speaker 04

  I want, I want, yeah, I want to go three of us and I want us to just all connect.

• 1:17:38Mark Gagnon?

  Wait, what?

• 1:17:39Speaker 04

  I want it to be a centipede.

• 1:17:41Mark Gagnon?

  Whoa.

• 1:17:42Speaker 04

  Can you be a centipede?

• 1:17:43Mark Gagnon?

  Eiffel Tower.

• 1:17:43Speaker 04

  No, it's called the elephant walk.

• 1:17:45Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, yeah. Have you heard of that?

• 1:17:48Speaker 04

  Someone was in a frat, Mark. Tell us about the elephant walk.

• 1:17:51Speaker 05

  You ever know the elephant walk? It's when you and your boys all get in a circle and hold on each other's penises and walk around. You never did that?

• 1:17:56Mark Gagnon?

  Son, white, this is white boy fuck.

• 1:17:59Speaker 04

  This is shit we don't know.

• 1:18:01Mark Gagnon?

  Well, how, did you know about that?

• 1:18:02Speaker 04

  And y'all fuck with elephants.

• 1:18:07Speaker 04

  That's crazy.

• 1:18:08Mark Gagnon?

  I heard of it.

• 1:18:09Speaker 04

  What if you lost your friend, bro? Like, what, how can you make sure that you don't lose the group?

• 1:18:14Speaker 05

  Son, your shits aren't big enough to carry anyway. So I gotta hold on to them? That's why I gotta hold tight.

• 1:18:18Speaker 04

  You gotta hold on to that.

• 1:18:19Speaker 05

  Yes, exactly.

• 1:18:21Speaker 04

  You got it to it.

• 1:18:23Speaker 04

  Yo, that's crazy. Why is it crazy? You guys are in the dark.

• 1:18:27Mark Gagnon?

  How do you even come up with that? Like, where did your brain need to be to be?

• 1:18:31Speaker 05

  David Attenborough.

• 1:18:32Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:18:32Speaker 05

  Yeah. You watch, you watch Planet Earth and you go, wow, these animals talk and everything.

• 1:18:38Mark Gagnon?

  I don't even know where I was at.

• 1:18:39Speaker 06

  Homosexual acts are very funny to white people, as we saw last week.

• 1:18:42Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, apparently.

• 1:18:44Speaker 06

  You laugh.

• 1:18:45Mark Gagnon?

  No, it was funny, but this was too real.

• 1:18:49Mark Gagnon?

  It's too close. He's like right next to me.

• 1:18:50Speaker 05

  You can't be in the frat.

• 1:18:51Mark Gagnon?

  I can grab his right now. That's a little, that's a little too much.

• 1:18:56Speaker 05

  Sorry, I keep the computer ready. We gotta block it.

• 1:18:58Speaker 04

  Anyway, you were saying Kendrick was gonna fuck a broad or something like that?

• 1:19:01Mark Gagnon?

  Nah, what you talking about? That was editing out. We ain't said that.

• 1:19:05Mark Gagnon?

  That wasn't said. I don't know what the fuck you talking about.

• 1:19:08Speaker 04

  So.

• 1:19:08Mark Gagnon?

  Jay-Z's innocent.

• 1:19:09Speaker 04

  So Jay-Z, yo, I don't think that it should be easier to get a conviction for civil than criminal.

• 1:19:15Speaker 04

  Like, justice is justice.

• 1:19:16Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, but there's not always, like.

• 1:19:19Speaker 04

  Enough evidence?

• 1:19:20Mark Gagnon?

  No, no, it's.

• 1:19:20Speaker 04

  Too bad.

• 1:19:23Speaker 06

  Doesn't this kind of fall in line with what the justice system is innocent until proven guilty? There's gonna be some guilty people who get away with crimes, but that's just something you gotta do to protect the innocent ones. In the same way, in this, there's gonna be some money grubbing people who just throw the allegations out there and get a payout. But that's the cost of protecting the innocent people or the people who are actually victims.

• 1:19:45Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, but you incentivize the money hungry people to do this.

• 1:19:49Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:19:49Mark Gagnon?

  If they can keep their name private, why wouldn't anybody?

• 1:19:52Speaker 06

  I mean, because you might not get paid out. I might take you to court and draw you in legal fees. Happened to me?

• 1:19:59Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:20:00Speaker 06

  I might take you to court and draw you in legal fees.

• 1:20:02Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, and then usually the lawyer would be like, I ain't taking this shit on because this is not a winning case.

• 1:20:08Speaker 06

  Okay.

• 1:20:09Speaker 05

  I mean, the judge can also get you your legal fees paid back and things like that.

• 1:20:13Mark Gagnon?

  That's if you win. But I'm just saying, like, say if this is like a frivolous lawsuit, like, the lawyer won't take it on. He'll, like, I bet this Bugs B guy, whatever the fuck his name is, like, he apparently does this to a lot of people with money.

• 1:20:24Speaker 06

  He's the guy that went at Deshaun Watson. The survivors.

• 1:20:29Speaker 04

  Oh, Deshaun Watson was legit.

• 1:20:31Speaker 06

  Seventeen allegations leads you to believe so there's something there, but it's Tony Busby.

• 1:20:36Speaker 04

  There is a number of allegations. Like, allegations are like abortions. Like, at a certain number, you're like, yo, what's going on?

• 1:20:47Speaker 04

  Like, if you got eight allegations, we start going like, yo!

• 1:20:52Speaker 04

  What the fuck is happening? Lock him up! Lock him up! Right? So, so, one allegation, maybe a two.

• 1:21:03Speaker 06

  I want to see you, I want to see you work your way to eight.

• 1:21:06Speaker 04

  A three allegation! A four!

• 1:21:10Mark Gagnon?

  I think four.

• 1:21:12Speaker 04

  Four, we're getting into four, like, yo, there might be something here. A five? Wow, on the fifth damn allegation?

• 1:21:20Speaker 05

  R. Kelly came to me.

• 1:21:22Speaker 04

  R. Kelly came to me.

• 1:21:25Speaker 04

  So, yeah, but then when you're in this six, seven, even by seven, we could. Seven's a lucky number. But on a lucky number, you're not gonna go there. You gotta let it slide for the luck. Yeah. The seventh one came in, you're like, phew, it was seven, right? Definitely, we're taking the slide. It shoots the ladders, you take the chute. But when that eighth one comes in, poof, you gotta put him in prison for that one. Eight allegations? It's a lot, it's a lot.

• 1:21:49Mark Gagnon?

  It's a lot.

• 1:21:49Speaker 04

  Come on, bro.

• 1:21:50Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:21:51Speaker 04

  Come on.

• 1:21:52Mark Gagnon?

  It's a lot.

• 1:21:53Speaker 04

  So right now, with Jay, we're just at one.

• 1:21:56Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:21:56Speaker 04

  Yeah. Wipe it away. Wipe it away. It's a singular allegation. He went to go see Mufasa, you know, is that guilty? Is that a guilty man? Goes to see Mufasa on the night of the allegation?

• 1:22:08Mark Gagnon?

  His wife and daughter in the movie.

• 1:22:08Speaker 04

  The wife and daughter in the movie, support.

• 1:22:10Mark Gagnon?

  There you go.

• 1:22:12Speaker 04

  Now, his mom did like.

• 1:22:13Mark Gagnon?

  No, no, no.

• 1:22:14Speaker 04

  Her mom.

• 1:22:15Mark Gagnon?

  That was.

• 1:22:15Speaker 04

  Her, well, yeah, it's her mom, her mom. But you saw that.

• 1:22:18Mark Gagnon?

  Them damn in-laws, bro.

• 1:22:22Speaker 04

  She's an older woman. It's hard to understand. She liked, what was it? She liked a picture of the accusation. Yeah. Against Jay-Z. And then Amelia was like, I was hacked. Yeah.

• 1:22:33Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, she still went with.

• 1:22:34Speaker 04

  She went with, I was hacked.

• 1:22:36Mark Gagnon?

  So, I was hacked doesn't work anymore.

• 1:22:38Speaker 04

  No, so she got her phone hacked, obviously.

• 1:22:40Mark Gagnon?

  Obviously.

• 1:22:41Speaker 04

  Obviously, it was a hack. Obviously, she would never like a picture of an accusation against her son-in-law.

• 1:22:46Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:22:46Speaker 04

  Right?

• 1:22:47Speaker 05

  Remember when Offset got hacked? Remember?

• 1:22:49Speaker 04

  Yeah, I'm gay. I like this.

• 1:22:51Speaker 05

  I lick ass cheeks, I'm gay, y'all. Balls in my face.

• 1:22:55Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, that was funny.

• 1:22:56Speaker 04

  That's. But he was clearly hacked, like, these are real hacks. Like, you know, like, this happens to people, their phones get hacked. Yeah. You know, and they say these things.

• 1:23:04Mark Gagnon?

  What happened right before that? It was like he got.

• 1:23:06Speaker 04

  He got caught cheating, right?

• 1:23:07Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah. That is great.

• 1:23:09Speaker 05

  Bro, I mean, Offset, thinking of like, yo, what would a hacker say?

• 1:23:13Mark Gagnon?

  He's like, no, no, no, he said, what would a white boy say? That's what he went to, he's like, nobody would believe I said this shit.

• 1:23:20Speaker 05

  Balls in my face. He's like, what's the gayest thing I can think of? Balls in my face.

• 1:23:26Speaker 05

  Called someone, he called his white friend, he was like, yo, what, yeah, what would you say? Give me the info. I lick ass cheeks. What does he think being gay is?

• 1:23:35Speaker 04

  He said, I lick them. I lick the ass. You can do that straight.

• 1:23:39Speaker 05

  Wait, what?

• 1:23:39Speaker 04

  What? You can lick ass cheeks straight. You don't lick your girl's ass cheeks?

• 1:23:42Speaker 05

  Yeah. Oh, I get it.

• 1:23:44Speaker 06

  I see what you're saying.

• 1:23:45Speaker 04

  What were you guys thinking?

• 1:23:46Speaker 05

  Something about ass cheeks feels male.

• 1:23:48Speaker 04

  Oh, licking like a guy's ass?

• 1:23:52Speaker 05

  You're like, wait.

• 1:23:52Speaker 04

  Get this dick in your mouth. What you licking my ass cheeks for?

• 1:23:56Speaker 04

  What you licking my ass cheeks for, man? That's crazy.

• 1:23:58Speaker 05

  Ass cheeks feels males for some reason. I don't know why.

• 1:24:01Speaker 04

  It does, huh?

• 1:24:01Speaker 05

  Like, sometimes like, go in that room, there's some ass cheeks in there. I feel like there's a guy with his pants down.

• 1:24:05Speaker 04

  Who would it be?

• 1:24:06Speaker 05

  Miles. It'd be Miles' ass cheeks.

• 1:24:08Mark Gagnon?

  You see Miles, he loves you.

• 1:24:10Speaker 04

  Damn, bro.

• 1:24:10Mark Gagnon?

  That's a love.

• 1:24:11Speaker 04

  That's beautiful.

• 1:24:12Speaker 06

  He only started saying that when he started losing weight.

• 1:24:14Speaker 04

  Miles game-waived at Waterfest, bro.

• 1:24:16Speaker 05

  It's crazy.

• 1:24:17Speaker 04

  I fucking wore a size small shirt today thinking he got cute and skinny.

• 1:24:23Speaker 04

  This shirt is ill-fitting. It's ill-fitting.

• 1:24:27Speaker 05

  And you put the shirt on, he's like, oh shit, I ain't there yet.

• 1:24:30Speaker 04

  It's not there.

• 1:24:31Speaker 05

  I put the shirt on, I went, damn, it is short. I'll put a hoodie on. And it's so hot in this fucking studio.

• 1:24:35Speaker 04

  Yeah, you need a hoodie, because that shit is about three inches too short.

• 1:24:38Speaker 05

  It is.

• 1:24:39Speaker 06

  It's, it's a boxy tee. Come on, bro.

• 1:24:41Speaker 04

  Nah, bro, that shit comes with Kendrick tickets.

• 1:24:45Speaker 04

  That shit comes with Kendrick and Toronto tickets. That shirt, it was exposing his abdomen. I saw under his belly button. I saw, it was a crop top. I saw the snail shirt. I thought it was Matthew McConaughey.

• 1:24:58Speaker 04

  I'm for real. I couldn't believe it. No offense, Miles, obviously.

• 1:25:01Speaker 05

  That's the kindest thing you've ever said.

• 1:25:02Speaker 04

  But when I, when I saw the belly, I was like, ain't no way he fasted for thirty-six hours.

• 1:25:06Speaker 06

  I thought it was Magic, I thought it was Burt Kreischer.

• 1:25:09Speaker 05

  Yeah, you're being really kind, man. I appreciate that.

• 1:25:12Speaker 04

  Yeah, no, this is good motivation. He needs it. He needs it. He needs it to get after it, bro.

• 1:25:15Speaker 05

  Did you, did you last the thirty-six days?

• 1:25:17Speaker 04

  Miles, what kind of fast you do?

• 1:25:19Speaker 05

  Uh, it was just like a food fast for twenty...

• 1:25:21Speaker 04

  You sure it wasn't fast food?

• 1:25:27Speaker 04

  I liked that one. I liked that one.

• 1:25:32Speaker 04

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• 1:25:38Speaker 04

  That was fine.

• 1:25:41Speaker 00

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• 1:27:02Speaker 04

  Anyway, free Jay.

• 1:27:03Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 1:27:04Speaker 04

  Free Jay.

• 1:27:05Speaker 05

  Innocent.

• 1:27:05Speaker 04

  Unless, of course, he did it, then don't free him. But until we have his proven in the court of law that he did it. And he's having more accusations.

• 1:27:11Speaker 05

  He'll be proven innocent in court of law.

• 1:27:13Speaker 04

  He will be proven innocent in court of law.

• 1:27:14Speaker 05

  You don't respect that judgment.

• 1:27:15Mark Gagnon?

  He's innocent right now.

• 1:27:16Speaker 05

  There you go.

• 1:27:16Speaker 04

  Actually, he'll never be proven criminally guilty of it.

• 1:27:19Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 1:27:19Speaker 04

  That's true.

• 1:27:20Speaker 05

  There you go.

• 1:27:22Speaker 04

  It's probably beyond the statute of limitations.

• 1:27:24Speaker 05

  Just like Daniel Penny.

• 1:27:26Speaker 04

  Yeah, exactly.

• 1:27:27Speaker 05

  This mother.

• 1:27:27Speaker 04

  And you'll respect that, right? Yo, this guy's nice, bud. Yo, you are nice, my boy. You are nice, my boy. Put him in the Kendrick fans. Put him in the Kendrick fans.

• 1:27:39Speaker 05

  That's no one's leading the witness, okay? I think that's not.

• 1:27:41Speaker 04

  Nah, nah, leave him. Let's go, let's go.

• 1:27:43Mark Gagnon?

  Sometimes justice system gets it wrong.

• 1:27:47Mark Gagnon?

  Sometimes gets it wrong, man.

• 1:27:48Speaker 04

  It was so funny. It was so funny watching Kendrick fans split. Cause I brought up the South Park shit. So me that you can never make jokes about black women. Now I was like, what about the South Park creators? He's doing the film with, and then immediately all the comments are, well, South Park makes fun of everyone. What? They made fun of everyone equally. I was like, oh, that's a good point. Yeah, I'll think about that. Anyway, so Daniel Penny, right? There's a hero on the subway. What happened?

• 1:28:13Speaker 05

  You can't talk, come on, huh?

• 1:28:14Speaker 04

  No, I'm just trying to understand what happened. I thought he was Spider-Man, the way that they described the situation, the way that he was protecting the neighborhood and the good people. I thought he was a hero. Tell me what happened. There was a man assaulting people on the subway?

• 1:28:26Speaker 05

  There was a man on the subway.

• 1:28:27Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:28:28Speaker 05

  That in the past seven years, I think he had like 40 arrests.

• 1:28:31Speaker 04

  Oh, my goodness.

• 1:28:31Speaker 05

  Uh, like fractured a woman's orbital bone, like an eight-year-old woman. He was like attacking people. I think he had some mental health problems.

• 1:28:36Mark Gagnon?

  Why, why you gotta bring up people's past, though?

• 1:28:38Speaker 05

  I think it just kind of paints the whole picture.

• 1:28:40Speaker 06

  He was on a top 50 list or something of like the most mentally ill people. This is hilarious. People's most mentally ill.

• 1:28:46Mark Gagnon?

  I told you, he was in New York legend. I didn't see him before.

• 1:28:50Speaker 06

  Yeah, they have like a top 50 of people who are like mentally ill.

• 1:28:53Speaker 05

  That's what I call mental illness, volume seven. Like they drop it every year.

• 1:28:57Speaker 06

  And they refuse treatment also. He like consistently refused.

• 1:29:00Mark Gagnon?

  I didn't know he had a list, but that's fire if you make the list.

• 1:29:02Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:29:03Mark Gagnon?

  That's low-key kind of fire. Our homeless are like part of the ethos of New York.

• 1:29:08Speaker 04

  There's homeless and then there's the homeless characters and the homeless characters are kind of well-known in certain neighborhoods. I didn't know he was one of the homeless characters.

• 1:29:15Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:29:16Speaker 04

  You've seen him before on a subway?

• 1:29:17Mark Gagnon?

  I have.

• 1:29:18Speaker 04

  Okay. And then what happened? Were you there?

• 1:29:20Speaker 06

  Was a homeless character?

• 1:29:21Mark Gagnon?

  He was dancing.

• 1:29:22Speaker 06

  He's like a Larry the Cable guy for homeless?

• 1:29:24Speaker 04

  Nah, this is like.

• 1:29:25Mark Gagnon?

  Like a guy you see around. Like he did the Michael Jackson impression. Like he was actually nice. Like he dances really good.

• 1:29:30Speaker 06

  Maybe he was too nice and that's why he was affecting people.

• 1:29:34Speaker 06

  There was children on that train.

• 1:29:36Speaker 04

  Fractured a 80-year-old woman's orbital bone?

• 1:29:38Speaker 05

  That was the, that was what I had heard. Yes.

• 1:29:40Mark Gagnon?

  No, no, heard? Now.

• 1:29:42Speaker 05

  Okay, well, I mean.

• 1:29:43Mark Gagnon?

  Live, libel, suit us, nigga.

• 1:29:44Speaker 05

  Fine, if you want me to pull up, if you want me to pull up the facts, I'm, I'm, I'm giving it some, some, uh, you know, possibility of doubt, but I guess I'll pull up everything.

• 1:29:51Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:29:51Speaker 06

  Oh, Al, here we go.

• 1:29:53Mark Gagnon?

  Nah, we don't gotta bring up.

• 1:29:54Speaker 04

  I need to see the facts, my boy.

• 1:29:56Speaker 06

  It's in the near post. It has to be true.

• 1:29:59Speaker 04

  Pose bad?

• 1:30:00Speaker 05

  I pull the difference.

• 1:30:01Speaker 06

  It's biased a little bit.

• 1:30:01Mark Gagnon?

  The post is which side?

• 1:30:03Speaker 06

  Right.

• 1:30:03Mark Gagnon?

  Right, no.

• 1:30:04Speaker 04

  They're a little more right, right?

• 1:30:05Speaker 05

  Uh, in 2021 subway assault on a 67-year-old stranger, stranger breaking her nose and fracturing her orbital bone. But we don't know what she did.

• 1:30:13Mark Gagnon?

  Exactly.

• 1:30:14Speaker 05

  She might have been crazy and he might have been trying to stop it.

• 1:30:17Speaker 04

  Yeah, so that's a very, that's a possible. That is very possible, a sixty seven year old woman. How old's our moms? Let's go through the age of our moms. I just wanna know if it's.

• 1:30:27Speaker 06

  My mom doesn't know. She's between sixty eight and seventy two.

• 1:30:30Mark Gagnon?

  Damn, how convenient.

• 1:30:33Speaker 06

  What do you mean?

• 1:30:34Speaker 04

  She's still trying to make it in Hollywood. Women wanna be four years younger too. All women wanna be four years younger or five years younger. Oh. Do you know the joke? I'm making it up.

• 1:30:46Speaker 06

  It's always great when you gotta explain it. Yeah, it's funny. My dad married her when she was twenty one. So, there you go.

• 1:30:52Speaker 04

  Let's hope it's twenty one.

• 1:30:54Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:30:55Speaker 05

  Yeah, cause next year it's gonna be five. It's gonna be something different.

• 1:30:57Speaker 04

  Yeah. Anywho, uh, so.

• 1:31:00Speaker 05

  Yeah, it seems like he had a little bit of a criminal history.

• 1:31:02Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:31:03Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 1:31:03Speaker 04

  No, he's a crazy person. This is a shame. It's a shame that they're crazy. It's a shame that we don't have a system to help them because essentially what happens is when they commit a crime and they're crazy, they go to the psych ward for like a week. They put them on some meds. They can force them on the meds while they're on the psych ward. And then they go back out to the street and the same thing happens. That is tragic.

• 1:31:20Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:31:20Speaker 04

  Yeah. That's fucked up and we just don't have a support system for it. It's fucked up. The cops gotta deal with it. Like cops are here to stop people from committing crimes. They're not here to do therapy. And a lot of times cops had to deal with psychotic people, which it shouldn't be them. There should be a unit of people who deal with mental illness, but that doesn't happen. So it sucks. This does suck, but that guy on the subway, the Daniel Penny guy, doesn't know this guy's history. He just sees somebody harassing and acting erratic people. So he steps in and does what he thinks is the right thing to do, which is subdue that guy.

• 1:31:52Speaker 05

  Puts him into a chokehold and then this person.

• 1:31:55Mark Gagnon?

  For eight minutes.

• 1:31:56Speaker 05

  Unfortunately dies.

• 1:31:57Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:31:58Speaker 05

  And then he's never.

• 1:32:00Mark Gagnon?

  Like if you choke anything for eight minutes.

• 1:32:02Speaker 04

  Well, well, well, hold on, hold on, hold on. What's the amount of minutes? You know?

• 1:32:07Speaker 06

  Eight might be the minute.

• 1:32:08Speaker 04

  We know eight is, we know the allegations.

• 1:32:10Speaker 06

  Eight might be the minutes.

• 1:32:11Speaker 04

  We need to know the amount of minutes.

• 1:32:12Speaker 06

  Eight is the number.

• 1:32:13Speaker 04

  It's the number. George Floyd, what was that?

• 1:32:17Speaker 06

  I think it was nine or something.

• 1:32:18Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:32:18Speaker 04

  So is that the amount of minutes where we start going, whoa, that's a little too long? One minute?

• 1:32:24Mark Gagnon?

  Wipe it away.

• 1:32:25Speaker 04

  You gotta, you gotta choke someone for a minute.

• 1:32:26Mark Gagnon?

  That's just a UFC match.

• 1:32:28Speaker 04

  He stopped, then he tapped.

• 1:32:30Mark Gagnon?

  Two, two minutes.

• 1:32:30Speaker 04

  Two minutes, you're like, well, maybe he was wriggling a little bit. You weren't choking him the whole time. Three minutes?

• 1:32:36Mark Gagnon?

  Three minutes to body ain't wiggling.

• 1:32:38Speaker 04

  Three minutes, somebody's not wiggling, but you know, he could be faking sleep and then come back and go back to assault him. So you need to keep him in there for three minutes. Four minutes?

• 1:32:46Mark Gagnon?

  So he's playing pos.

• 1:32:47Speaker 04

  Now we're getting, now we're getting to a, he might be dead situation. He might be actually dead.

• 1:32:53Speaker 06

  Now, four minutes are good.

• 1:32:54Speaker 04

  Lift a hand if he falls.

• 1:32:55Speaker 06

  Yeah, three of those match over ding ding ding.

• 1:32:58Mark Gagnon?

  And then that happened and then four more minutes happened just to make sure.

• 1:33:01Speaker 04

  That's fucked up.

• 1:33:01Mark Gagnon?

  He wasn't.

• 1:33:02Speaker 04

  Six minutes, that's fucked up.

• 1:33:03Mark Gagnon?

  Yes.

• 1:33:03Speaker 04

  Seven minutes?

• 1:33:04Speaker 06

  Lucky.

• 1:33:05Speaker 04

  Too lucky, can't do it.

• 1:33:06Speaker 06

  Yeah. You gotta let go at seven though, cause that's where you stop. Now he can breathe again.

• 1:33:10Speaker 04

  Exactly. Eight minutes.

• 1:33:12Mark Gagnon?

  Fucked up. So you're saying this guy's guilty?

• 1:33:16Speaker 04

  Well, guilty of what?

• 1:33:18Mark Gagnon?

  I would give him manslaughter. He didn't intentionally try to kill the guy, but he did.

• 1:33:22Speaker 04

  You've never been harassed on the subway, bro? You never had like a mariachi band or something like that come on to your thing while you're trying to listen to a podcast?

• 1:33:28Mark Gagnon?

  I never wanted to kill him, just like throw pennies at him.

• 1:33:32Speaker 06

  That is my question. How, how many times he been on the subway? Oh gosh, you check your mic. For everybody else, this shit is, we seen this. Crazy person on the subway, you just go to the next train.

• 1:33:40Mark Gagnon?

  That's why you know he's a transplant. Transplants can't, they don't know how New York operates and he overreacted.

• 1:33:47Speaker 06

  So what you're saying is only New Yorkers can kill their homeless?

• 1:33:50Mark Gagnon?

  Absolutely.

• 1:33:51Speaker 04

  Now, if that person was hitting your mom,

• 1:33:57Speaker 04

  would you have done what Daniel Penny did?

• 1:33:59Mark Gagnon?

  Damn, I wanted to see what she do. It's my mom, I can't do that. I can't do that.

• 1:34:05Speaker 06

  What if you punch him in the nose, break a nose and orbital bone? That seems just, that seems all right. Just beat his ass.

• 1:34:12Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, I just, I understand. He just wanted to protect, be subdued. Yes, I get that.

• 1:34:18Speaker 06

  It just seems, eight minutes does seem like a long ass time.

• 1:34:20Speaker 04

  Also, I think what they're saying is that he actually died from, it's one of those.

• 1:34:24Speaker 06

  But that's what they always do.

• 1:34:24Mark Gagnon?

  That's the defense. Like, oh, all this other stuff in his system, but come on, guys.

• 1:34:29Speaker 05

  They're saying he had a faint pulse when they first got to him, and then they hit him with Narcan, and then he was pronounced dead after.

• 1:34:34Speaker 04

  So they killed him?

• 1:34:36Speaker 05

  Well, that was literally one of the offenses.

• 1:34:39Speaker 04

  Of course, the cops would kill another minority.

• 1:34:40Mark Gagnon?

  Exactly. Damn, this motherfucker held his breath for eight minutes?

• 1:34:44Speaker 04

  Of course!

• 1:34:45Speaker 05

  But I think, according to what I read earlier, I got a double check.

• 1:34:48Speaker 04

  I think he swam here, bro.

• 1:34:52Speaker 04

  Oh, I thought he was Puerto Rican. I thought he was Latino. What's his name?

• 1:34:56Speaker 06

  Jordan Neely. Oh, yeah, Jordan Neely, yeah.

• 1:34:57Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, that's a black man, bro.

• 1:35:00Speaker 06

  You think this would be a news story if he was Puerto Rican? Come on, huh?

• 1:35:04Mark Gagnon?

  They would have been like, yo, it's a migrant.

• 1:35:06Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:35:06Speaker 05

  I think in court, they testified that he let go 45 seconds after he had gone limp. So like, he was like, sort of moving, and then by the time he was limp, he let go 45 seconds later. As I, what I read earlier today.

• 1:35:18Speaker 04

  I need to know what he was doing.

• 1:35:20Mark Gagnon?

  Immediately after the limp, not.

• 1:35:22Speaker 04

  I need to know what he was doing to the people on the subway, because that's what matters.

• 1:35:25Speaker 06

  Some people are saying he was threatening, some people are saying he wasn't. He was getting in some woman's face with kids.

• 1:35:31Speaker 04

  Threatening a woman with children?

• 1:35:33Speaker 06

  He was getting in their face. We all, I mean, yeah, that's like the thing.

• 1:35:35Mark Gagnon?

  You have people on the same train saying two different things.

• 1:35:39Speaker 04

  Because to me, that's the only thing that matters. If you're threatening a woman with children, and if my wife with our baby is on the subway, and there's a crazy person threatening her, and she is locked in the subway, cannot control herself, cannot leave our baby, because to defend herself against a man, and another dude comes and steps in, and fucking chokes her, chokes that guy out? I gotta dap him up or something.

• 1:36:03Mark Gagnon?

  I don't know.

• 1:36:04Speaker 05

  He said.

• 1:36:04Mark Gagnon?

  You could subdue him in other ways.

• 1:36:06Speaker 05

  He said he was hungry, thirsty, and ready to die. Die or go to jail and then there's.

• 1:36:11Speaker 06

  That's scary.

• 1:36:12Speaker 05

  Some people are saying that he's was harassing other people like trying to.

• 1:36:17Speaker 04

  Dude has mental illness.

• 1:36:18Speaker 06

  Miles, what'd you say?

• 1:36:19Speaker 05

  There's other people that said he's made half lunch movements and said, I will kill, but these are all obviously just.

• 1:36:24Speaker 06

  I mean, I will kill is different. And if there's wives, if there's kids and moms, it's like, eh, that's a different thing. And it's easy to say, oh, he should have. But if you're in that situation, it's harder to say.

• 1:36:36Speaker 04

  Put it this way.

• 1:36:36Speaker 06

  It's harder to do. Oh, I should do this.

• 1:36:38Speaker 04

  This is only a tragedy because he's mentally ill. If he was a sane person that was on the subway. Truck telling people, I plan to kill. I don't go fuck. I'm ready, whatever.

• 1:36:48Speaker 05

  I agree.

• 1:36:49Speaker 04

  And somebody just, the tragedy is mentally ill people are not in control of their body and they're not in control of their actions.

• 1:36:56Speaker 06

  Yeah, or their minds, yeah.

• 1:36:57Speaker 04

  Or their mind and they do these fucked up things and we don't really have a system that can support them. If you're somebody that's living, you know, below the poverty line, I don't know if this guy is, there's literally nothing for you but jail in the psych ward. It's tragic.

• 1:37:09Speaker 05

  And that's why, even though I made it a joke, I think a New Yorker would have recognized.

• 1:37:13Speaker 04

  Yeah, and they would have just like, hey, let's go to a different car, et cetera. I, I, I agree with you there, but. If this is just a regular guy who's just like, you know what, fuck people today and I'm gonna go harass them and then this happens, I'm like, whatever. The fact that he has the mental illness, I feel really badly. Now, here's the thing, there are serial killers that are mentally ill. You gotta get them the fuck out of here. You, just because you have a mental illness doesn't mean you have an excuse to harass people, to hurt people, to murder people. To break a woman's orbital bone. That's not an excuse. It's tragic that you're not in control of your body. That sucks.

• 1:37:45Speaker 05

  Yeah, I guess I'm curious, is there a middle ground? Like, is what like Jordan Penny did to subdue him or Daniel Penny did to subdue him good? Yeah, he probably should have subdued him. Did he go too far? Accidentally kill the guy?

• 1:37:57Speaker 06

  That's the question.

• 1:37:58Speaker 04

  I don't think people have. I don't, how do you know? Like, when do you know? I, I don't know what too far is.

• 1:38:02Speaker 05

  I don't think he should be criminally liable. I don't think it's manslaughter or homicide. I think he should be free.

• 1:38:06Speaker 04

  He's also not a UFC fighter who's choking people out all the time and knows when they're fucking done.

• 1:38:10Speaker 05

  He's a former Marine.

• 1:38:11Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:38:13Speaker 04

  That doesn't mean he's a UFC fighter.

• 1:38:14Speaker 06

  But you still, I think, have some idea. Yeah, you're trained for combat.

• 1:38:18Speaker 04

  Yeah, but I don't think that you're jujitsuing the Taliban.

• 1:38:22Mark Gagnon?

  I mean, but even even more the reason why would you use that?

• 1:38:26Speaker 04

  How many guys do you think he's choked out in his life? I think what he's doing is doing what he believes to be the safest version of it, which is I can choke him out, pass him out, and then we can wake him back up like it happens in jujitsu gyms all over the country, etc. That's what I'm assuming.

• 1:38:39Mark Gagnon?

  I I can't be certain, but I'm pretty sure they get trained in doing the same police shit with the armor behind the back and face that.

• 1:38:45Speaker 06

  So apparently the cops didn't want to get involved. They like wouldn't touch Daniel Penny because they thought they were gonna get HIV or something like that. Which is also like, if you're Daniel Penny, what the fuck am I? Y'all are supposed to do your jobs now, take over.

• 1:38:55Speaker 04

  That's how I knew he wasn't from New York, because he touched the homeless.

• 1:38:57Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:38:58Speaker 04

  Like, you know, the homeless dudes can get away with murder in New York because we think they all got HIV. So they get to touch whoever they want, they get to talk to everyone.

• 1:39:06Mark Gagnon?

  Special type, like they'll just jump on you if you get a little too close. That's why you gotta move into another car.

• 1:39:11Speaker 04

  A hundred percent.

• 1:39:12Speaker 06

  So Daniel Penny, yeah, you should move, but you see that wife and kid, you might be like, and again, I don't know exactly how I feel, I'm just doing the both sides thing, but like if you're him, you're like, you're probably looking at the mom and the kids like, get the fuck off this train. But then if you're the mom, a kid, you might be terrified because this guy's saying, I'll kill you or whatever. And you're just like, if I move, is he gonna lunging me? What do I do? I'm paralyzed with fear. And then if you're this guy, you're like, all right, man, I gotta do something because they're not fucking leaving. This is what it is.

• 1:39:35Mark Gagnon?

  I do get the feeling of like feeling that you need to do something to protect other people, especially a wife and kid. But I just think he took it too far and I do think, yes, some people make mistakes and you have to pay a price for making a mistake.

• 1:39:48Speaker 04

  Should he be criminally liable?

• 1:39:50Mark Gagnon?

  I do think he should be.

• 1:39:51Speaker 06

  What I'm honestly asking, what's like a punishment to you years wise, whatever?

• 1:39:55Mark Gagnon?

  Um, I don't really know how long you get, but I think this is typical manslaughter. You did not intend to kill somebody, but you killed him by accident. So whatever charge comes along with manslaughter, I think that's.

• 1:40:06Speaker 06

  Five years or something, I think it's kind of light to me.

• 1:40:08Speaker 04

  I mean, don't you want to reward Samaritans for protecting other innocents?

• 1:40:13Mark Gagnon?

  No, we have police for that.

• 1:40:15Speaker 04

  That is true.

• 1:40:15Speaker 06

  It doesn't cross the line into vigilante shit.

• 1:40:18Speaker 04

  That is what.

• 1:40:19Speaker 05

  A vigilante to me is going out looking for something, whereas this guy just sees something go wrong.

• 1:40:23Mark Gagnon?

  And the thing where. Everybody else on the train just moved away and ignored it.

• 1:40:27Speaker 05

  There was another guy that assisted and subdued his hands. You know what I mean? Like, there was another guy that afterwards, they put him on his side and like basically to make him not like choke on his spit or his tongue. To be like, oh yeah, we don't want to kill him, we're gonna put him on his side.

• 1:40:38Mark Gagnon?

  Those are the people that after guys win it in a fight, you come in after and you get the kid. You really do it.

• 1:40:43Speaker 05

  And so to me manslaughter is like, oh, you're texting and driving and you hit someone in the crosswalk. Like that was an innocent person that did nothing wrong, just happened to be the wrong place, wrong time. You didn't mean to kill them. You were texting and driving, not paying attention. And it's unfortunate.

• 1:40:54Mark Gagnon?

  Version of it.

• 1:40:55Speaker 05

  But this is where I would say like, again, they even took off the manslaughter thing. The judge is like, yeah, this is not going to stick. And that's where they went with, what was it negligent homicide? And so that they moved it down another one. And again, negligent homicide is basically like exactly what it sounds like.

• 1:41:09Mark Gagnon?

  And according like, hey, he got tried in a court with 12 of his peers and he got found non guilty. So I, who am I to say?

• 1:41:16Speaker 05

  Right.

• 1:41:16Mark Gagnon?

  I just feel that in this case, we can't allow that because now this gives the okay for other people to do this.

• 1:41:23Speaker 05

  I think people calling him a hero. I'm like, all right.

• 1:41:25Mark Gagnon?

  That's why.

• 1:41:25Speaker 05

  I, I, I see that going to be like, all right. I almost feel like the same with like Kyle Rittenhouse. Where people are like, oh, Kyle Rittenhouse. Like it's not the same exact thing, but like, oh, look like he killed.

• 1:41:33Speaker 06

  Subway did get a little bit safer though.

• 1:41:37Speaker 06

  You know what I mean? We've been seeing them stories on the subway, X, Y, Z is happening. Maybe now not so much.

• 1:41:44Speaker 04

  What, what is, is the, what is the racial component here? Is this different if it's?

• 1:41:50Speaker 05

  If it was white Michael Jackson, I think he still gets killed.

• 1:41:53Speaker 04

  But it's different if it's a white guy doing it and a white guy kills him.

• 1:41:56Speaker 06

  It's upsetting when not nearly as much so.

• 1:41:57Speaker 04

  Or a black guy does it and a black guy's killed. Like if it's not cross racial.

• 1:42:01Speaker 05

  It's not as, it's not as.

• 1:42:03Mark Gagnon?

  This is America. The story is always bigger when it's.

• 1:42:05Speaker 04

  Add some gas on it for sure.

• 1:42:07Speaker 06

  Yeah. For a reason, but yeah.

• 1:42:09Speaker 04

  But so, so it probably wouldn't just be a national story. If it's the same, if it's Asian on Asian, or if it's, you know, Indian or whatever it is. It just wouldn't be a national story. We wouldn't even know about it.

• 1:42:19Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:42:20Speaker 04

  Probably.

• 1:42:20Mark Gagnon?

  Probably not.

• 1:42:21Speaker 04

  Right. So we know about it because of the racial component, but that doesn't mean that it's less frustrating or divisive.

• 1:42:29Mark Gagnon?

  Right.

• 1:42:30Speaker 04

  So the racial component puts the gas on it, which makes it on everybody's radar. But the situation itself is the divisive thing.

• 1:42:39Speaker 04

  You see what I'm trying to ask? I'm trying, I'm, or is the, or does the racial component make it divisive?

• 1:42:45Speaker 06

  It adds to the divisive.

• 1:42:46Mark Gagnon?

  I feel that because I think some people immediately just see the racial component first before even knowing all the facts.

• 1:42:55Speaker 04

  They're forming all of their.

• 1:42:56Mark Gagnon?

  Yes.

• 1:42:56Speaker 04

  Got it. They're forming their decision.

• 1:42:57Mark Gagnon?

  And we see that shit online all the time.

• 1:42:59Speaker 04

  So it's, so it's, so it's white guy chokes out black guy and he is considered innocent.

• 1:43:05Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:43:05Speaker 04

  And a hero.

• 1:43:06Mark Gagnon?

  Looking for, looking for ways, they only looking for ways where.

• 1:43:10Speaker 04

  Justify what they feel. Got it. Whereas if it was white guy chokes out white guy and he's innocent, there's just less of a care about it because it doesn't tap into preconceived notions that we have about groups, or not even groups, just like how the world treats us.

• 1:43:25Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:43:26Speaker 04

  And you can empathize with a black person that's looking at going like, man, if it was me who did this to some white person, I'd be locked up guaranteed. But when some white person does something that looks like me, they're free.

• 1:43:36Speaker 05

  Or a black person being like, the reason they choked him out till he dies is because they don't respect his life as much.

• 1:43:40Speaker 04

  Exactly.

• 1:43:40Speaker 05

  If it was a white guy, he would have been like, all right, you're good. Let me subdue you and not kill you.

• 1:43:43Speaker 04

  And based on experiences in that person's life, you can go, okay, I can see why he's informed. And this decision is informed in this way.

• 1:43:50Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:43:51Speaker 04

  But it doesn't mean that justice wasn't served, which is what you said, like a jury of his peers looked at this, all the information, way more information than we fucking got, and they were like, he's not guilty.

• 1:44:01Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:44:01Speaker 04

  Yeah. So there might be things that they know that we're just not aware of that made them come to that conclusion.

• 1:44:07Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:44:08Speaker 04

  And if it's, if it's a New York City fucking jury, it's not going to be a bunch of white guys that look like him.

• 1:44:12Mark Gagnon?

  Exactly.

• 1:44:13Speaker 04

  So it's.

• 1:44:14Speaker 05

  Yeah. But it does change the lens. And then you have activists on both sides. Like again, one side being like, this guy is amazing. We need more of this. And it's like, all right, well, that seems a little far. But then people on the other side being like, Jordan Neely was only killed because of his skin color.

• 1:44:25Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:44:25Speaker 05

  Well, I don't know if that's true.

• 1:44:27Speaker 04

  Now, when somebody comes on the train and they try to do that thing where they like dance and do flips and throw their hat in the air, you know that?

• 1:44:33Speaker 06

  I love that.

• 1:44:34Speaker 04

  Now, if they try to do Showtime, is there a part of you where you just get up and you go like, like, just to shut it down?

• 1:44:41Speaker 06

  Not to Showtime.

• 1:44:42Mark Gagnon?

  Showtime is kind of entertaining.

• 1:44:44Speaker 04

  That hack story where my dad kicked me out because I'm gay and now I have AIDS.

• 1:44:48Speaker 06

  I heard this story.

• 1:44:50Speaker 04

  That's a good ass point.

• 1:44:51Speaker 06

  Yeah, I've heard that story multiple times because one time my boy started laughing.

• 1:44:57Speaker 06

  My boy's crazy. Giant black dude, this gay white dude comes on, starts doing the whole thing, and my boy just goes.

• 1:45:04Speaker 06

  And then he said, "What's so funny?" He said, "Your dad kicked you out because you're gay and you got AIDS." And then the homeless got snorted off the train.

• 1:45:15Speaker 04

  Shout out to New York. I know, that is New York.

• 1:45:17Mark Gagnon?

  I've never heard that one.

• 1:45:19Speaker 04

  The greatest comedian in New York is just riding public transit. He's not doing comedy at all. He's just there talking that shit. Remember that video, that dude on the bus in Queens? Black dude talking to Jamaican lady? And Jamaican lady's complaining about how she's in traffic? And he's just like, "We all in traffic." "It's New York, we all in traffic, alright? You don't want traffic, go to Jamaica, walk to work."

• 1:45:43Speaker 06

  We all late, get a car.

• 1:45:46Speaker 04

  He is cooking this bitch on the fucking bus.

• 1:45:49Mark Gagnon?

  That's awesome.

• 1:45:50Speaker 06

  The bus is laughing.

• 1:45:51Speaker 04

  Oh, the whole bus is dying laughing. I held the crowd on his side.

• 1:45:56Speaker 06

  Get the clip up.

• 1:45:57Speaker 00

  Everybody late, this New York. You want to be on time, go to Jamaica and walk to work.

• 1:46:05Speaker 00

  You're gonna be late, that's it, you're gonna be late.

• 1:46:10Speaker 00

  You mad at him because you're late?

• 1:46:15Speaker 00

  So wherever you from? You might be on time if you walk there.

• 1:46:21Speaker 00

  But you're annoying me, so now I'm gonna speak on you.

• 1:46:25Speaker 00

  You're fucking annoying me.

• 1:46:29Speaker 00

  You know what it is? You upset because you got a bullshit ass job.

• 1:46:35Speaker 00

  And you late to your bullshit ass job. You can't buy a car because you got a bullshit ass job.

• 1:46:42Speaker 00

  Don't be mad. Don't fuck everybody else, digga? Poor lady got a wheelchair, she got on the bus with a wheelchair, that's why the bus is late. You gonna be mad at that? Get out of here.

• 1:46:58Speaker 00

  I should bus for race to my car and you won't have to take the fucking bus.

• 1:47:04Mark Gagnon?

  No, this is awesome.

• 1:47:05Speaker 00

  I'm probably get fired, I'm mad lately.

• 1:47:11Speaker 00

  It's my fault. I should have been on the 1210 instead of the 1213 bus. That's my fault.

• 1:47:19Speaker 00

  Wake your ass up early, put the fucking dumplings down.

• 1:47:25Speaker 00

  I mean, and get on the bus.

• 1:47:32Speaker 00

  Oh, this is awesome.

• 1:47:36Speaker 00

  You could keep going, I could keep going. I'm here in a five town. So we could do this all the way to a five town. Oh, this is far out bus too. I'm retarded too, me and the bus driver both retarded.

• 1:47:53Speaker 00

  Everybody's retarded. Who else retarded on this bus? This bus too long for everybody to be retarded.

• 1:48:03Speaker 06

  Oh my god.

• 1:48:07Speaker 00

  Yo, go a little slower driver.

• 1:48:10Speaker 00

  Slow down a little bit. Get motion sickness on the.

• 1:48:17Speaker 00

  Slow down a little bit.

• 1:48:20Mark Gagnon?

  So this is awesome. This is so awesome.

• 1:48:30Speaker 05

  I mean, an absolute legend. We need him on the pod.

• 1:48:32Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, I was about to say, how do we contact this guy? How do we get him on the pod? This is far out going to Jamaica, because it has to pass through five towns. And he was like.

• 1:48:40Speaker 05

  I'm getting off the five town. Come on stage tonight, Mark. Two minutes. Bro, he's the best. Incredible. That guy's unbelievable.

• 1:48:48Mark Gagnon?

  Put the dumplings down.

• 1:48:50Speaker 06

  Too long, right? I thought he was out.

• 1:48:54Mark Gagnon?

  I had nothing left.

• 1:48:57Speaker 05

  He's in motion sickness. Bro, I wish I could do that. I feel like, is that black privilege? That he's able to go back and forth with some Jamaican lady? If she was saying that to me, I'd be like, ma'am, look, we're all trying our best. And it's a tough account, I get it, okay? Voter ID laws or something. I would just immediately. I'm sorry.

• 1:49:15Speaker 06

  New Yorkers are weird because they'll bully you, but if somebody else is bullying, they'll stand up to the bully. They don't like that. They're very about justice unless they're bullying you. Then it's all good.

• 1:49:26Speaker 05

  My wife took the train with the baby and she was like, What's wrong with you? She was going, she's busy. She's going to do stuff.

• 1:49:34Speaker 05

  What a newborn, bro. Put her in a fucking Uber, bro. You can't Uber with a newborn, motherfucker. How are you gonna do it? You gotta get a car seat, you gotta strap it in. Oh god forbid you're doing what everybody does. Yeah. What's wrong with the subway? They have Ubers with car seats. Yeah, wait, ask Al again, what's wrong with the subway? Yeah. Why can't you go in the subway? It's crazy, bro.

• 1:50:01Speaker 05

  Thank you, Miles. Miles, that was fantastic, bro.

• 1:50:05Speaker 06

  Oh my god, that's good.

• 1:50:06Speaker 05

  Miles, that was absolutely... Someone give me a zit. Miles, that was absolutely... That joke was so good, he's a zit.

• 1:50:15Speaker 05

  But it is, she was like, I can't take it anymore. I was like, why? She was like, I was like, was it dangerous? She was like, no, everyone's talking to me. She's like, really? She's like, yeah, like I go on with the baby, like strapped to me. I just like, the MTA guy was like, yo, where's your baby's hat? Like, you gotta put a hat on the baby. Everyone's got like parenting advice, everyone's chiming in. She can't go more than five feet, someone be like, do you want the seat? Can I give you the seat? Greatest city in the world. And she's like, no, I'll just stand. And they're like, no, you should really sit. Like, come on, please sit. Listen, you could say-

• 1:50:41Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, so bad, they're being nice to me. The fuck?

• 1:50:44Speaker 06

  Yeah, that was, yeah.

• 1:50:45Speaker 05

  I know, I can't take it. You could be getting punched in the orbital bowl by Michael Jackson impersonating you.

• 1:50:55Speaker 05

  Oh, man. Man, nah, it's the best city. That's what I told her. Yo, it's the funniest in terms of just regular people. Yeah. It's the funniest. Yeah. And...

• 1:51:05Speaker 06

  Boston, maybe?

• 1:51:07Speaker 04

  Yo, Boston has the funniest comedians, but like, just the ones that I find the most funny tend to come out of Boston. But in terms of just humans, not New York.

• 1:51:17Speaker 05

  New York's funniest.

• 1:51:17Speaker 06

  They're running out of black people in Boston.

• 1:51:19Speaker 04

  That's the thing, like, you need, you need black people, you need that energy.

• 1:51:22Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:51:23Speaker 04

  It's just, you need black people in public when they're being funny. Because they'll be funny in public in a way that like, sometimes white people are a little like afraid to do.

• 1:51:33Speaker 06

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:51:33Speaker 04

  Like, that guy on the bus was like, it's my bus, and we're gonna have some fun. And we're gonna get comfy and we're gonna talk that shit. But that is a, that is an urban thing, like, you have to be from a big city to be that comfortable talking in front of people who you don't know.

• 1:51:47Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:51:48Speaker 04

  Like, most people, that's their biggest fear, is speaking in public. But if you talk to your friend on the subway, there's a hundred people listening.

• 1:51:54Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:51:55Speaker 04

  Like, we all pretend we're not listening, but if that story gets good, I'm tapping in.

• 1:51:59Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:52:00Speaker 04

  I listened to so many goddamn stories, I missed a, I missed a stop just to finish this story.

• 1:52:05Speaker 05

  Bro.

• 1:52:05Mark Gagnon?

  And most of the time going to school, it's just roast sessions on the bus.

• 1:52:08Speaker 04

  Oh, non-stop.

• 1:52:09Mark Gagnon?

  The whole bus is an audience.

• 1:52:11Speaker 05

  There's a crossing guard lady outside my apartment, that might be the funniest person I've ever met.

• 1:52:15Speaker 04

  What's she saying?

• 1:52:15Speaker 05

  It was just cold outside, she's like, can I please come inside your lobby, it's just freezing out here. I was like, yeah, of course. And she's like, oh my god, sometimes these kids are crossing the street walking so slow. I was like, that's what you're worried about? She's like, yeah, it's freezing cold, these kids are fucking taking their sweet ass time. Just like talking shit about like, literal children crossing the street. And then she just like hangs.

• 1:52:32Speaker 04

  Because Jay-Z's on the other side. I'm joking. He's innocent.

• 1:52:37Speaker 05

  He's innocent. So that's why it's funny. That's why it's funny.

• 1:52:40Speaker 04

  Funny because he's innocent.

• 1:52:42Speaker 05

  But why did the kid cross the street?

• 1:52:44Speaker 04

  Why did he, why did he cross the street?

• 1:52:46Speaker 05

  No reason.

• 1:52:47Speaker 04

  I don't know.

• 1:52:49Mark Gagnon?

  If you guys are crazy.

• 1:52:50Speaker 04

  What?

• 1:52:50Mark Gagnon?

  Crazy, y'all crazy.

• 1:52:52Speaker 04

  Listen, there's no way that you can convict him, he has reasonable doubt.

• 1:52:55Speaker 06

  Ah, nice, nice, nice, nice.

• 1:52:57Speaker 04

  Complete reasonable doubt. Okay? Should we go through every album?

• 1:53:03Speaker 05

  Nah, um. New York City is the center of the universe. What do you think about it? Talk that shit. Dana Penny's here. Talk that shit. The CEO got shot.

• 1:53:11Mark Gagnon?

  What? Why you start with Dana Penny?

• 1:53:15Speaker 06

  I'm going, keep cooking.

• 1:53:16Speaker 05

  Right now. Diddy's here, Jay, Jay here, Daniel Penny's here, the, the, the, the CEO.

• 1:53:22Speaker 06

  Here.

• 1:53:23Speaker 05

  Kendrick took his first loss of 2024 here.

• 1:53:27Speaker 05

  Everything's happening here. And the aliens are showing up in Jersey. Nah, they ain't show up in Jersey. Uh huh, they got stuck in traffic, they're trying to come through the bridge to get into the city. You rapping Georgiana? Wait, what? Y'all don't know about Georgiana? What is that? Uh huh, uh huh.

• 1:53:39Speaker 06

  No idea.

• 1:53:40Speaker 05

  I'm a little bad bitch too, uh huh.

• 1:53:42Speaker 06

  No idea.

• 1:53:42Speaker 05

  Y'all really need to get up on your rappers, man. You just hang out with Shifty. I know, yeah. I know, I'm like, what the fuck? You just hang out with them more than we do. Shout out Georgiana, bro.

• 1:53:53Speaker 06

  Yo, Miles is bringing the points today, dude.

• 1:53:55Speaker 05

  Yo, Miles is good. Miles is good, man. Fat Miles is way better than Josh. When he was skinny, he was too hungry. He was too hungry, but he was skinny.

• 1:54:04Speaker 06

  This is a mental clarity effect.

• 1:54:05Speaker 05

  I know. I can't believe you wore that shirt, Miles, you motherfucker. Don't he look like the, the, the roadies for a rock band?

• 1:54:14Speaker 05

  He's setting up speakers and doing guitar. Bend over, you see it, ass crack. Bro, he's Bobby Sando. Yo, dude.

• 1:54:22Speaker 06

  Sando!

• 1:54:24Speaker 05

  Sando. Shout out Sando, the legend. This is what they saw in Jersey now, and this is not just like people on the internet posting about it, I mean, it is that, but it's also, uh, they got, the mayors are asking the, the state to investigate it. Cause they're like, what, like, are these spy craft? Is it weather balloons? Is it people flying drones illegally?

• 1:54:42Speaker 06

  That's China again, yeah?

• 1:54:44Speaker 05

  What are they into?

• 1:54:46Speaker 06

  They're ahead of us.

• 1:54:47Speaker 05

  Whoomst. These aliens.

• 1:54:50Speaker 06

  He's talking about the Chinese again. What's a plane?

• 1:54:56Speaker 06

  Miles, yeah, you don't believe none of this shit. That's just a plane?

• 1:54:59Speaker 05

  Nah, I sort of believe in aliens, I'll be honest with you.

• 1:55:03Mark Gagnon?

  I mean, you're an alien, you gonna put a bunch of lights on your shit?

• 1:55:06Speaker 06

  That don't seem suspicious to me.

• 1:55:09Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:55:09Speaker 04

  What part of Jersey is this, yo?

• 1:55:11Speaker 05

  The part that gets flown over by Newark?

• 1:55:17Speaker 04

  Miles on carbohydrates is a problem.

• 1:55:20Mark Gagnon?

  I know, it's crazy.

• 1:55:21Speaker 04

  Miles, you supposed to be thick, man.

• 1:55:23Speaker 05

  What if anyone should know about the planes is the people that live where the planes fly over, right?

• 1:55:26Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:55:27Speaker 05

  So they should know.

• 1:55:28Speaker 04

  Man, aliens don't give a-

• 1:55:30Mark Gagnon?

  You need to get those cars, bro.

• 1:55:33Speaker 04

  How long's your fast going?

• 1:55:36Speaker 05

  You think a marine knows how to choke people out? The people that live under the airport know what an airplane looks like.

• 1:55:40Speaker 04

  No, they don't.

• 1:55:40Speaker 05

  Of course they do. And now they see this shit and they're like, "What airplane looks like this, bro?"

• 1:55:45Speaker 06

  Get back on your laptop, yo.

• 1:55:48Speaker 06

  Find something else.

• 1:55:50Speaker 04

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• 1:56:32Speaker 04

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• 1:56:53Speaker 06

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• 1:56:54Speaker 04

  He's giving y'all 25% off with the promo code FLAGRANT at arktik, A-R-K-T-K, coldware.com. Fattigate, we love you, we're proud of you, we appreciate you, and I hope you kill with these. It's a stocking stuffer, whatever it is, but I just wanna support you. I think you're fucking awesome. And, uh, we love you, appreciate you. Peace. Alright, should we talk about Syria and solve that?

• 1:57:16Speaker 05

  Yeah, let's solve it.

• 1:57:17Speaker 04

  So what is it?

• 1:57:18Speaker 06

  I know nothing.

• 1:57:19Mark Gagnon?

  The Jews.

• 1:57:21Mark Gagnon?

  That's what I heard.

• 1:57:23Speaker 04

  So.

• 1:57:26Mark Gagnon?

  That's what I heard. I just heard it was them.

• 1:57:29Speaker 04

  Wait, what do you mean it was?

• 1:57:32Speaker 06

  That's everything.

• 1:57:32Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, it is.

• 1:57:37Speaker 04

  So the, uh, so what happened? So Syria fell, the Assad regime fell.

• 1:57:43Speaker 06

  Refugees took over or some shit like that? Was it?

• 1:57:50Speaker 04

  You could have just.

• 1:57:54Speaker 06

  I'm just stupid.

• 1:57:57Speaker 06

  Not funny, but it was worse.

• 1:57:59Speaker 04

  I think we need Akash to explain it to us.

• 1:58:03Speaker 06

  I know nothing. I think some refugees came back to Syria, took that shit back.

• 1:58:08Speaker 04

  Lauryn Hill started singing.

• 1:58:10Speaker 06

  Fujila, you know what I mean? That's what I think happened. Assad fell. I don't know who Assad is, to be honest with you.

• 1:58:19Speaker 06

  That's everything I know.

• 1:58:20Speaker 05

  Make a Lauryn Hill reference.

• 1:58:22Speaker 04

  I did refugees. Yeah, you got that. You're a little late to it.

• 1:58:28Speaker 04

  Yeah, well, here's the reality. None of us really know what happened in Syria.

• 1:58:31Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:58:32Speaker 04

  But it looked like Russia's a little preoccupied.

• 1:58:35Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:58:36Speaker 04

  With Ukraine. They can't back Syria anymore. The Assad regime needs that Russian support in order to stay in power. Russian support is gone. Now Russia loses their influence in Syria. Do we swoop in? Who swoops in and takes over Syria? Is this a win for the neocons? Is this the exact thing that the American neocons wanted? The warhawk Americans wanted? Did they fund the Ukraine war to get Russia out of Syria? So that they couldn't build some pipeline or something or the other? To fuck over Western influence in the region? Who knows?

• 1:59:13Mark Gagnon?

  And it doesn't Syria get money from Iran?

• 1:59:16Speaker 04

  I think they were financed by Turkey in this one. Right? I think it was Turkey backing them?

• 1:59:21Speaker 05

  The rebels were backed by the Turks.

• 1:59:23Speaker 04

  By the Turks, yeah.

• 1:59:23Speaker 05

  Yeah, but Assad was backed by Iran and Russia.

• 1:59:26Speaker 04

  Yes, yeah, that's right.

• 1:59:27Mark Gagnon?

  That's why I heard it was a win for the Jews.

• 1:59:29Speaker 04

  Well, definitely win for Jews because you guys get a little land up there. So you can leave them Palestinians alone now.

• 1:59:34Speaker 05

  Need a buffer. There's just a buffer.

• 1:59:36Speaker 04

  Starts as a buffer, bro.

• 1:59:37Speaker 05

  They don't want it.

• 1:59:39Speaker 04

  Starts as a buffer. Starts as a buffer. Then it becomes.

• 1:59:45Speaker 05

  There was a weird like.

• 1:59:48Speaker 05

  Plus here, like, let's not get involved with each other thing.

• 1:59:51Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:59:52Speaker 05

  Bashar al-Assad.

• 1:59:53Speaker 04

  And now the Russia's out of the way. You're like, all right, what's up?

• 1:59:55Speaker 05

  Now, now there's an unknown. So hopefully.

• 1:59:57Speaker 04

  I'm just wondering, is this part of a larger geopolitical strategy by the powers that be? The deep state, if you will, in America. Was this the goal the whole time? To pull Russia out of Syria and remove their influence in the region? Or was this Russia's way of getting out of the Middle East in the same way that America's gotten out of the Middle East? Is it Western? Is it the Western countries way of going, you know what? It's too much stress trying to fucking hold these motherfuckers down over here. We don't want to deal with the, America wants to get the fuck out of Afghanistan. Russia's like, all right, they out of Afghanistan? Fuck it. It's too expensive. Let's get the fuck out of it. We gotta prop up this Assad regime the whole time, fight terrorists the whole time. We don't even get anything from it. We go on.

• 2:00:38Speaker 04

  The West maybe has just grown tired of trying to essentially colonize the Middle East.

• 2:00:45Speaker 06

  Here's what I'm trying to figure out. Where is Syria?

• 2:00:53Speaker 06

  Dying to know.

• 2:00:53Speaker 04

  Pull it up, pull it up, pull it up. Pull it up, Mark. Before he could say it. Why, why? West all guess. Nah, why we had to? Cause I think I know. I think I know more or less.

• 2:01:05Speaker 04

  I think I know more or less, but I, I don't wanna. What does more or less mean? I think it's to the right of Lebanon and above Israel.

• 2:01:14Speaker 05

  Ah, damn it. You sort of blew it there. I was gonna say Al named two countries, Mark named two countries. Everyone named two countries at borders.

• 2:01:20Speaker 04

  Oh, that's easy.

• 2:01:22Speaker 05

  No, it ain't.

• 2:01:23Speaker 06

  Nah, not for me.

• 2:01:26Speaker 04

  Saudi Arabia. Where'd Jesus go? Just think about the trip. My man had to pull up.

• 2:01:32Mark Gagnon?

  Israel.

• 2:01:34Speaker 04

  Israel? That's true.

• 2:01:37Speaker 04

  Where else did he go?

• 2:01:39Speaker 04

  Egypt? Remember he went down to Egypt?

• 2:01:43Mark Gagnon?

  I thought that was the other dude, the Red Sea guy.

• 2:01:46Speaker 04

  Well, they both went down there.

• 2:01:49Speaker 06

  Wait, Jesus went to Egypt?

• 2:01:50Speaker 04

  Few years apart.

• 2:01:51Mark Gagnon?

  I didn't know he went to Egypt.

• 2:01:52Speaker 06

  What was he doing in Egypt?

• 2:01:53Speaker 04

  He was hiding out.

• 2:01:56Speaker 04

  How you know that? I went to the church. I know, yeah. How the fuck you don't know that? You should know this shit. Their parents lived, Mary and, I think, I think Giuseppe went down there too. Cause the word was out. So they dipped on him.

• 2:02:08Speaker 06

  This isn't when he was like a kid?

• 2:02:10Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:02:11Mark Gagnon?

  Yo, you're a bad Christian.

• 2:02:14Speaker 04

  I mean, I heard that. I didn't know.

• 2:02:15Speaker 06

  You're a bad black person, yo. Jesus was in Africa, you ain't even know.

• 2:02:19Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, but we just.

• 2:02:20Speaker 06

  Did a tour date out there, you had no idea.

• 2:02:22Mark Gagnon?

  We just liked the song.

• 2:02:23Speaker 04

  Hey, I'm right about what I said, right?

• 2:02:27Mark Gagnon?

  Where's Shifty? We need Shifty right there. Shifty's the only one who actually knows the Bible.

• 2:02:30Speaker 04

  I had heard like a version of this.

• 2:02:32Speaker 06

  You had heard the version of this. It's church, dog.

• 2:02:35Speaker 05

  No, no, no. It's not in the Gospels. From the ages of like six to, or like seven to like thirty. It's, I've heard that he went and learned like in the mystery schools in Egypt.

• 2:02:45Speaker 04

  Mystery schools?

• 2:02:46Speaker 06

  Six to thirty, you on him? Twenty-four years of Jesus's life, yo? He died at thirty-two or thirty-three, didn't he? Thirty-three. So you know three years of Jesus is thirty-three? You know nine percent of his life?

• 2:02:57Speaker 05

  Talking that shit.

• 2:02:58Speaker 06

  You know nine percent of his life, yo?

• 2:03:00Speaker 04

  You put all your faith in some guy, you don't even know what he did for the whole part of his life, pretty much. Yeah, I'm friends with y'all. I don't know what the fuck y'all were doing.

• 2:03:07Speaker 06

  You sound like Al with Jay-Z.

• 2:03:13Speaker 04

  Jay-Z? Jesus, I mean, he's close.

• 2:03:17Speaker 06

  Jesus.

• 2:03:18Mark Gagnon?

  It's Hova.

• 2:03:19Speaker 05

  But I don't know, I mean, maybe if you saw a church, I'll take your word for it.

• 2:03:21Speaker 04

  I mean, I was in it. I think it was him that was in the church. I don't think it was, uh.

• 2:03:25Mark Gagnon?

  Shifty!

• 2:03:26Speaker 04

  Is Shifty here? Nah, he went to the.

• 2:03:28Speaker 05

  Nah, he's at another Shifty.

• 2:03:28Mark Gagnon?

  Ah, damn.

• 2:03:30Speaker 04

  But, uh, nah, I'm pretty, I'm pretty, I'm almost a hundred percent positive.

• 2:03:33Speaker 06

  Cause there may be some abusive father vibes.

• 2:03:36Speaker 04

  Nah, he's right there.

• 2:03:37Speaker 06

  That was weird, yo.

• 2:03:38Speaker 04

  I just want him to prove him wrong. No, I'm almost positive he went, right?

• 2:03:43Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 2:03:44Speaker 04

  Jesus went to Egypt.

• 2:03:44Mark Gagnon?

  Nah, you shaky now. You're kinda shaky.

• 2:03:47Speaker 04

  Damn it.

• 2:03:48Mark Gagnon?

  You're acting around.

• 2:03:49Speaker 04

  I like it.

• 2:03:49Mark Gagnon?

  He's looking around.

• 2:03:50Speaker 05

  I just don't know if it's in the Bible. I just don't know if it's in the Bible, but it might be true.

• 2:03:53Speaker 04

  Nah, it's not in the Bible, it's in the church. I went to, I visited the church.

• 2:03:56Speaker 05

  It doesn't border Egypt.

• 2:03:58Speaker 04

  What doesn't border Egypt?

• 2:03:59Speaker 05

  Syria. In the Gospel of Matthew.

• 2:04:00Speaker 04

  I never said Syria or borders Egypt. I said Israel borders Egypt.

• 2:04:03Speaker 06

  He said, here's your own Lebanon.

• 2:04:04Speaker 05

  Love it.

• 2:04:05Speaker 04

  Lebanon don't border to Egypt. It goes Lebanon, Israel, Egypt.

• 2:04:08Speaker 06

  No, you said Syria borders Lebanon.

• 2:04:09Speaker 04

  Oh, Israel Lebanon, I guess.

• 2:04:10Speaker 05

  That's right. I mixed up what you were feeding him. Talking about Jesus is in Egypt.

• 2:04:14Speaker 04

  We got facts.

• 2:04:15Speaker 05

  As a child.

• 2:04:15Speaker 04

  Yes, he was a child. Yes. I went to the church he was in. They showed me where they, he was chilling.

• 2:04:19Speaker 05

  Oh, fire.

• 2:04:20Speaker 04

  It was fire. It was cool.

• 2:04:22Speaker 05

  Wow. In the Gospel of Matthew, it's Alan in the story after Jesus married. Born in Bethlehem.

• 2:04:26Speaker 04

  Gospel of Matthew, it's in Matthew.

• 2:04:27Speaker 05

  Wait, what did he do?

• 2:04:29Speaker 04

  Y'all don't be reading your book, man.

• 2:04:30Mark Gagnon?

  You don't even read your book?

• 2:04:32Speaker 04

  I'm trying to find out.

• 2:04:33Speaker 05

  Why do you think I'm orthodox?

• 2:04:34Mark Gagnon?

  He just Wikipedia this shit.

• 2:04:35Speaker 04

  These motherfuckers go to church, the guy up there is just e pluribus unum, e pluribus unum. None of them speak Latin. They pretend that they're praying and then they leave.

• 2:04:42Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 2:04:43Speaker 04

  That's crazy. And you just, I think y'all go to church just to tell the priest that you jerk off a lot.

• 2:04:49Speaker 04

  I think that's what y'all do.

• 2:04:50Speaker 05

  You don't have to go to church to do that. You don't have to go to church to do that. You can just tell him.

• 2:04:53Speaker 04

  I go to church.

• 2:04:55Speaker 05

  And who do you tell that you jerk off to?

• 2:04:56Speaker 04

  I don't have a guy in my church. It's in a public school in Harlem.

• 2:04:58Speaker 05

  So you have to tell us?

• 2:04:59Speaker 04

  I go to church in a public school in Harlem every once in a blue moon. And they do not have a priest there for me to talk to.

• 2:05:05Speaker 05

  So if you're telling me jerk off, what do they say?

• 2:05:07Speaker 04

  What do I tell God up there?

• 2:05:08Speaker 05

  Or do you tell any?

• 2:05:09Mark Gagnon?

  They don't have confessional. Only your priest has confession.

• 2:05:12Speaker 05

  So who do you tell you jerked off to? Fans of this podcast.

• 2:05:13Speaker 06

  God knows, dog. What you gotta tell us for?

• 2:05:15Speaker 05

  Exactly.

• 2:05:16Speaker 06

  Fuck, you think God needs?

• 2:05:17Speaker 04

  That is true. God is, God knows, I know.

• 2:05:19Speaker 05

  Why do you have to confess to a priest?

• 2:05:20Speaker 06

  God needs a secretary?

• 2:05:21Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:05:21Speaker 05

  God knows, bro.

• 2:05:22Speaker 04

  Exactly.

• 2:05:22Speaker 06

  God's aware. That's where the preacher is, just a secretary. Who you confessing to, like God don't already know.

• 2:05:27Speaker 04

  Exactly.

• 2:05:27Speaker 06

  Hey, leave God, God a message. I jerked off three times this year.

• 2:05:30Speaker 05

  We're gonna help Mark. Mark, why did he flee to Egypt?

• 2:05:33Speaker 06

  It don't make no fucking sense. What a stupid thing.

• 2:05:36Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:05:36Speaker 06

  It's like God can't just forgive you.

• 2:05:37Speaker 04

  Because she said he was immaculate.

• 2:05:40Speaker 05

  Because King Herod heard that there was the birth of the king of the Jews. So King Herod felt threatened. He said, we gotta get out of here. Why Egypt, outside King Herod's jurisdiction? And there were Jews there, so the family, the holy family could blend in.

• 2:05:53Speaker 04

  Oh.

• 2:05:54Speaker 05

  And who was King Herod?

• 2:05:56Speaker 06

  Killed him.

• 2:05:56Speaker 05

  And so my bad again. Sorry.

• 2:05:59Speaker 04

  Who was King Herod? You're right.

• 2:06:07Speaker 04

  He put the word out for a child.

• 2:06:09Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 2:06:10Speaker 04

  That's crazy. King Harry is a wild boy.

• 2:06:11Speaker 05

  Game of Thrones.

• 2:06:12Speaker 04

  That is.

• 2:06:13Speaker 05

  Looking for Stormborn.

• 2:06:16Speaker 04

  You know who it really is? Harry Potter.

• 2:06:20Speaker 06

  That's true.

• 2:06:21Speaker 05

  Very much so.

• 2:06:22Speaker 06

  That's true.

• 2:06:22Speaker 04

  That's Harry Potts. That's Potts right there. The boy who was.

• 2:06:26Speaker 06

  The boy who lives.

• 2:06:27Speaker 04

  The boy who lives.

• 2:06:28Speaker 05

  That you know.

• 2:06:29Speaker 04

  So I didn't know that Never Long Bottom was also the boy who lived.

• 2:06:32Speaker 05

  He was possibly whoever he went after became the kid in the prophecy.

• 2:06:36Speaker 04

  But they don't show that in the movie at all.

• 2:06:38Speaker 05

  No, they don't. The movie's sort of fucked up.

• 2:06:40Speaker 04

  I know, my boy. I know, I know, I know, I know. That's on me. That's on me. Um, once my daughter gets old enough for me to just say things out loud and she just sits there, she don't have to know any bit. I'll read the book to her.

• 2:06:51Speaker 05

  That's gonna be amazing. My parents read the book to me and that is awesome.

• 2:06:55Speaker 04

  It's cool, right?

• 2:06:56Speaker 05

  Don't bring up the map.

• 2:06:56Speaker 04

  Let's bring up the map. Well, let's see while it looks like this still.

• 2:07:01Speaker 06

  Russia's big.

• 2:07:03Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's got some oilito in there. We gotta spread that around.

• 2:07:08Speaker 06

  Kayser also did say something. He said when the CNN ticker said Syrian rebels have taken Syria, whatever, he goes, so that's who we want to win, right? If we don't want them, we call them terrorists. If we want them, we call them rebels. That's how that works, right? I was like, that's a great fucking point.

• 2:07:21Speaker 04

  Yeah, they're fighting Russia. They're rebels.

• 2:07:22Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 2:07:23Speaker 05

  Try and get the Ole Miss fans in your shot.

• 2:07:25Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 2:07:26Speaker 05

  Who's to the east of Syria?

• 2:07:27Speaker 06

  Terrorists.

• 2:07:28Speaker 05

  What?

• 2:07:29Speaker 04

  To the east of Syria is Lebanon and Iraq.

• 2:07:32Speaker 05

  The other way.

• 2:07:33Speaker 04

  Oh, east, sorry.

• 2:07:33Speaker 06

  Yeah, Iraq's here.

• 2:07:35Speaker 05

  And then what about up? Turkey. Oh, it's Turkey. Okay. Below, it's Jordan. And then in between Syria and Israel is Golan Heights. You know, that little.

• 2:07:44Speaker 04

  What's above, what's above Lebanon?

• 2:07:46Speaker 05

  Above Lebanon is more Syria.

• 2:07:50Speaker 04

  Oh, Syria goes right to the water?

• 2:07:52Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:07:53Speaker 04

  Wow, that's a nice piece of land right there. They should have kept that.

• 2:07:59Speaker 04

  Why aren't they trying to keep that?

• 2:08:00Speaker 06

  See how he sounds right now?

• 2:08:02Speaker 04

  They should have kept that.

• 2:08:03Speaker 06

  Nice little piece of land.

• 2:08:07Speaker 04

  Oh, we might need to see about that. Donald! I hear, I hear Syrians for sale. Nah, Donald knows. Look at all that waterfront.

• 2:08:15Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 2:08:16Speaker 04

  Nah, Donald.

• 2:08:17Mark Gagnon?

  Bay?

• 2:08:17Speaker 04

  Yeah, Donald gotta look into that. Donald gotta look into that. Shout out Syrians though, they seem like good people. I like Syrians.

• 2:08:24Speaker 06

  Fifty second state after Canada.

• 2:08:26Speaker 04

  I like, I like the idea of incorporating Canada in America. I like it a lot.

• 2:08:30Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 2:08:31Speaker 04

  I think that we should do Mexico as well.

• 2:08:33Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, how do you stop illegal immigration? Make them citizens.

• 2:08:37Speaker 04

  We already did that to them multiple times. Arizona, Texas, California, Colorado.

• 2:08:43Speaker 06

  Well, Texas got freedom and then.

• 2:08:45Speaker 04

  What I'm saying is every time we embraced places that used to be Mexico, they've been awesome.

• 2:08:51Speaker 06

  Yeah, we came up.

• 2:08:52Speaker 04

  Name one place that used to be Mexico that we don't love right now.

• 2:08:57Speaker 04

  Bring us some more. Bring us some more. If they are down, I'm down. And then we cut it off right after Mexico.

• 2:09:04Mark Gagnon?

  Right after Mexico.

• 2:09:05Speaker 04

  Think about how small that wall is now. It's just a little bit right there. You just gotta build that one.

• 2:09:09Mark Gagnon?

  If we're gonna keep going down, like Columbia's kinda cool.

• 2:09:13Speaker 04

  I think we should annex maybe a city or two.

• 2:09:15Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 2:09:16Speaker 04

  Not the whole thing, but.

• 2:09:18Speaker 06

  What if we just take North America, South America, make it America?

• 2:09:22Speaker 04

  Yeah. Now we're talking, but then you look at that and you're like, I mean, Japan has got some cool things for sure.

• 2:09:28Speaker 06

  And it's right there.

• 2:09:30Speaker 04

  It's so close. Is this how it starts? Is this how Napoleon was talking to his boys? He was like, yo, Germany kinda fire. Like they got some bread or whatever. This is kinda cool.

• 2:09:40Mark Gagnon?

  It's Pokemon, bro. You just wanna catch them all.

• 2:09:41Speaker 04

  You gotta do it. And it's, and it's really not that hard.

• 2:09:45Mark Gagnon?

  Dove, then you don't have to smuggle your girls in, bro.

• 2:09:47Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:09:48Mark Gagnon?

  They're citizens already, son.

• 2:09:49Speaker 04

  If we had Brazil, they could.

• 2:09:51Speaker 06

  That's true.

• 2:09:52Mark Gagnon?

  I'm really not into Brazilians.

• 2:09:53Speaker 04

  Oh my God.

• 2:09:55Speaker 06

  My goodness. What are we saying?

• 2:09:57Mark Gagnon?

  Your Jewish god is smiting you right now. Not the top of the list.

• 2:10:01Speaker 04

  Don't be, what's the top of the list?

• 2:10:03Mark Gagnon?

  Hot Jewish girls?

• 2:10:05Speaker 04

  Okay. Can we just speak in not fantasy?

• 2:10:09Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, I know.

• 2:10:11Mark Gagnon?

  We've been on this pod a long enough.

• 2:10:13Speaker 05

  The girls of Tel Aviv.

• 2:10:15Speaker 04

  The girls.

• 2:10:15Mark Gagnon?

  I'll give you that.

• 2:10:17Speaker 04

  Okay, so the Jewish girls that look Brazilian.

• 2:10:20Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, they look mixed with something.

• 2:10:22Speaker 04

  Got it, got it, got it. So the Brazilian looking Jewish girls, got it.

• 2:10:24Speaker 06

  But Israelis the most, that's the most Jewish, you can't knock them for that.

• 2:10:28Mark Gagnon?

  No, no, I'll give them that. Cause I went to Tel Aviv and they were some beautiful women there.

• 2:10:32Speaker 04

  Now, what about Brazilians that are you off of right now? What is the, what is it?

• 2:10:37Speaker 05

  What Brazilians do I have?

• 2:10:38Speaker 04

  No, no, why? You don't like them? You used to really like them.

• 2:10:41Speaker 05

  And now I can't talk to them without hearing your voice about Brazilians.

• 2:10:45Speaker 04

  Wow, wow, wow.

• 2:10:49Speaker 05

  I can't.

• 2:10:50Speaker 04

  Dove, dove.

• 2:10:54Speaker 05

  You removed an entire country.

• 2:10:59Speaker 04

  Could you go out with Tao?

• 2:11:09Speaker 05

  Have you seen the video that, that kid going viral? That sings the exact same song and every single video appears everywhere? He's with Mr. Beast with this one now.

• 2:11:19Speaker 04

  But that's gonna happen for you, you're saying?

• 2:11:21Speaker 05

  No, I just wanna change something.

• 2:11:23Mark Gagnon?

  There are beautiful Brazilian women. I don't think that there's, they're not beautiful.

• 2:11:27Speaker 04

  There's tons of beautiful Brazilian women.

• 2:11:28Speaker 06

  What do they sound like?

• 2:11:30Speaker 04

  Well, I mean, give me a situation, I'll tell you what they would say. Dove, can you take me to Chalky Cheese with my friends?

• 2:11:37Speaker 04

  Dove, we ordered the Chalky Cheese restaurant with my friends. Very fond to go to the Chalky Cheese.

• 2:11:43Speaker 04

  Please Dove, Dove, can you please take us to the Chalky Cheese restaurant? And then we can play in the ball pit. I want to play with my friends in the ball pit.

• 2:11:54Speaker 04

  You know?

• 2:11:54Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 2:11:55Speaker 04

  I gotta start, I gotta literally, I gotta start asking for passports when Dove brings these girls in. Cause I, I, you, you get concerned that they might be here trafficked. I'm just saying, they're of legal age, of course, but they might be trafficked.

• 2:12:09Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 2:12:09Speaker 04

  Is that that crazy?

• 2:12:11Mark Gagnon?

  You could be of age and trafficked.

• 2:12:12Speaker 04

  A girl is sent to America to hold a surf boat outside. And you don't think that they're trafficked? They're trafficked illegally. That's not a real job. You can't put that on an application. Held a surf boat outside Tommy Hilfiger.

• 2:12:27Speaker 06

  How do you think a job interview goes? So tell me about your work experience.

• 2:12:32Speaker 04

  Um, I used to shovel sand outside the resort in Portugal and Brazil. And one guy found me, he took me on a container ship and he put me into New York City. And I take all the surf boats from around the city and I put it up front of Tommy Hilfiger.

• 2:12:50Speaker 04

  And then one Jewish guy come to me, said he could change my whole life.

• 2:12:55Mark Gagnon?

  Make me a big star.

• 2:12:56Speaker 04

  He made me a pizza, he put me all the movie picture. And so far we go to his house, he come on my back. Outside of that, I've not become a big star. He come on my back, he make me go to shower immediately and sleep in his guest room.

• 2:13:11Speaker 04

  That's a beautiful love story.

• 2:13:12Mark Gagnon?

  Oh my god. Yeah.

• 2:13:14Speaker 04

  It's really fucked up. But shout out Brazil, man. There's some great people out there.

• 2:13:17Mark Gagnon?

  Awesome people.

• 2:13:18Speaker 04

  Awesome people. Great food.

• 2:13:19Mark Gagnon?

  Awesome.

• 2:13:20Speaker 04

  Incredible food.

• 2:13:21Mark Gagnon?

  Incredible.

• 2:13:21Speaker 04

  Great food. Great restaurants.

• 2:13:23Mark Gagnon?

  Restaurants are fantastic.

• 2:13:25Speaker 04

  Of all the South American countries, what, what restaurants do they get?

• 2:13:28Speaker 06

  What's your favorite Brazilian dish?

• 2:13:29Mark Gagnon?

  Nah, I mean, all of them.

• 2:13:33Speaker 04

  It's like Trump when he asks the Bible verse.

• 2:13:36Speaker 04

  Just, oh, let me tell you, it's a beautiful place. Al might stutter when he's trying to make a point. But if he's trying to tell you about food in another country. This guy is flawless.

• 2:13:47Speaker 05

  Solid.

• 2:13:48Speaker 04

  Solid. Never faulted once.

• 2:13:51Mark Gagnon?

  Hey, I'm a foodie. What can I say, guys? What can I say?

• 2:13:56Speaker 04

  Oh my God, guys. Oh my God, guys. All right, guys. Any other questiones before we go to Patrione?

• 2:14:05Speaker 05

  I think I was moved to Syria.

• 2:14:07Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 2:14:07Speaker 04

  All right.

• 2:14:07Speaker 06

  He's gotta tell me where it is again.

• 2:14:10Speaker 04

  Guys, we appreciate you. Thank you, guys, so much. We love y'all, motherfuckers. Y'all are the best. I saw y'all riding for me this past week, and it is appreciated. It is never forgotten.

• 2:14:19Mark Gagnon?

  Thank you, guys.

• 2:14:20Speaker 04

  Okay? Salute to the gang. We never go nowhere. Everybody gets these fucking jokes. We don't care who says it. God bless y'all.

• 2:14:26Speaker 06

  Love you.

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