TBT: Brittany Furlan Lee

The iconic Brittany Furlan Lee is here to crack us up and get candid about exes, mental health and living life in the spotlight. She opens up about her wild ride in comedy and beyond, including skyrocketing to fame on Vine and finding zen with husband Tommy Lee. Brittany and Bunnie talk about how what you see online is not always real life, and Brittany gives a sneak peak about what's ahead for her LoveLee jewelry line and "This is the Worst" podcast. Watch Full Episodes & More: www.dumbblondeunrated.com https://www.dumbblondeunrated.com/ Brittany: IG https://www.instagram.com/brittanyfurlan/?hl=en&g=5 | TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@brittanyfurlan?lang=en | LoveLee Jewelry https://www.instagram.com/love_lee_jewelry/?hl=en| This is the Worst https://www.instagram.com/thisistheworstpod/?hl=en

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• 0:02Speaker 00

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• 1:51Bunnie XO?

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• 2:18Speaker 03

  Bonnie, who used to be a former sex worker and now hosts the podcast Dumb Blonde.

• 2:23Bunnie XO?

  Most little girls grow up wanting to be doctors and lawyers and shit. And I was like, I want to be super hot, make a lot of fucking money and be a rock star's wife. That was my goal as a child and here we are.

• 2:33Bunnie XO?

  What's up you sexy motherfuckers? Welcome to another episode of Dumb Blonde. Today I have one of my favorite humans on social media. I have been following this woman for such a long time. We've talked and it has finally come to fruition. Brittany, is it Furlan?

• 2:49Speaker 04

  Furlan.

• 2:50Bunnie XO?

  Furlan, I never want to pronounce it the wrong way.

• 2:52Speaker 04

  That's okay. Everyone says it differently.

• 2:53Bunnie XO?

  Brittany Furlan, baby. What's up?

• 2:56Speaker 04

  What's up dude? I'm so happy to be here.

• 2:58Bunnie XO?

  Dude, you are just like a warm hug. Your energy is always so sweet. Even when people are attacking you, you're so fucking nice. Sometimes I want to be like, leave my girl alone, you know, and like go crazy. But for some reason, I just, you know, I just always want to give you the biggest hug.

• 3:14Speaker 04

  Thanks Bonnie. It's so funny because we're meeting in person for the first time, but you know how you meet someone and you just feel cozy? Like you're a cozy person.

• 3:22Bunnie XO?

  Oh, you want to climb inside of me?

• 3:23Speaker 04

  Yeah, I want to give you a big hug. No, I'm like, it's crazy. Like you're just like, you know how, well, for me, I'm always nervous around people. Just everyone.

• 3:32Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, well, yeah, you don't know what to expect.

• 3:34Speaker 04

  I'm very uncomfortable all the time almost. So like when you meet someone that you're like, okay, I can just chill. Like it's nice.

• 3:40Bunnie XO?

  I can let my tits hang out.

• 3:42Speaker 04

  Yeah, you're that person. You're that person. I just take my top off. Yeah.

• 3:46Bunnie XO?

  That's what I strive for.

• 3:47Speaker 04

  Yeah, exactly. You're a comfort person. I'm dead. They're gonna have to pay more on the Patreon for that.

• 3:53Bunnie XO?

  For sure. It wouldn't be the first time we've had some titties flop out on the podcast, so yeah.

• 3:58Speaker 04

  Who took their titties out?

• 4:00Bunnie XO?

  Well, I know Jessie Lalas off the top took her fuck, and she had some, she's a little full lesbian. Gorgeous tits. I feel like every fucking lesbian has the nicest tits.

• 4:10Speaker 04

  Wow, she's with Jenna Jameson.

• 4:12Bunnie XO?

  Yes.

• 4:12Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's crazy.

• 4:15Bunnie XO?

  Jenna might be coming on the podcast. We're waiting to see, but yeah.

• 4:18Speaker 04

  Yeah, that's crazy, man. Yeah, I know. I hate that because like, I would pull my tits out, my husband would be like, uh, but you know, I hate it because people are always like, your tits are fake. That's like the worst.

• 4:30Bunnie XO?

  Because, and they're real though, right?

• 4:32Speaker 04

  I actually, I wear sports bras because I don't like my tits.

• 4:37Bunnie XO?

  You got a beautiful set of knickers. I've seen them in bikinis.

• 4:40Speaker 04

  Thank you. I mean, it's like cra- I flashed at the Motley Show because my husband wasn't getting, he always asked people to like, you know, and he wasn't getting any, so I flashed there and I was just like, yeah, whatever.

• 4:51Bunnie XO?

  His crowd finally got too old to start flopping their titties.

• 4:54Speaker 04

  They're like, uh, we don't really want to do that. So my husband's like, you come out and flash your tits. And I'm like, I could care less. Like, might as well show them while they're nice. You know what I mean? They're not gonna be nice forever.

• 5:03Bunnie XO?

  Oh, listen, I have my butthole on the internet, so listen. Listen, I love, listen, I'm gonna go to a Motley Crue show just to see Britney's titties.

• 5:13Speaker 04

  I'm dead. Well, I don't know if I'll show them again, but I can show you later personally. And I'll let you feel them too if you want. To prove that there's no implant in here. I hate that.

• 5:21Bunnie XO?

  Really?

• 5:21Speaker 04

  People are constantly, like, I've done filler and stuff in my face. I'm always very honest. I've been very transparent about it. Because I never want anyone to feel less than, you know, I never want anyone to look at me and go like.

• 5:32Bunnie XO?

  Unrealistic expectations.

• 5:33Speaker 04

  Exactly. Like, I will always be honest. I get laser, you know, I do filler here and there, botox, but I've never touched my body below my neck, ever. So it's just like weird when people are just like, ah, they just have to like, err.

• 5:46Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, and it's like, they want you to fucking draw blood just proving that. Proving, and then once you do prove it, they still don't believe you. Like, the internet, I have to argue with the internet about my age. People, people tell me, I'm like, I'm forty four and people are like, no, you're not. Google says you're twenty nine, right? And I'm like, I'm not, trust me.

• 6:05Speaker 04

  Fuck, I would go with twenty nine.

• 6:06Bunnie XO?

  Listen, if I was like, why? Like, why would I say I'm forty four? I'd say maybe thirty four or thirty six, but yeah, not twenty nine. But yeah, that's just how the internet is.

• 6:15Speaker 04

  I'd be pumped about that. I'd be like, yeah, that is true. Google said it. I'm twenty nine, bitch.

• 6:19Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, I'm a fucking eternal vampire until one day I wake up and I'm just fucking old and haggard.

• 6:24Speaker 04

  Every year it's twenty nine. They're like, it's still twenty nine.

• 6:27Bunnie XO?

  Literally. Yeah, literally. That's what I always say.

• 6:30Speaker 04

  I'm dead.

• 6:31Bunnie XO?

  So I wanted to just kind of deep dive into finding out more about you. Like, I Googled you last night and I was like, this girl has lived a full life.

• 6:40Speaker 04

  I'm tired. You know, I tell my husband, my husband's sixty one and I'm thirty seven and I am just like, the fact that like, I'm gonna probably live till sixty, I'm like, I don't know how people do it.

• 6:50Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, like, what do we do? What are we supposed to do?

• 6:53Speaker 04

  I'm so physically burnt just from like, being anxious and being in fight or flight my whole life. That I'm like, how do I do another thirty years? Like, I don't even know, like, I'm so exhausted at thirty seven that I can't even imagine being sixty. Like, it's crazy.

• 7:10Bunnie XO?

  I get that because when I was going through my like suicidal ideation, and that's another reason I've always been like, super like attracted to you, is that you are so open about your mental health journey, which we'll dive into in a little bit. But I think that right now, especially in the times that we live in, is so fucking important because people try to act like everything's fine all the time.

• 7:31Speaker 04

  I hate that.

• 7:32Bunnie XO?

  And I love the fact that you're like, I am fucking about to get on a flight and I am scared to death. And like, you're just so real about it, you know? So I, I just, I really, really appreciate that. Um, what I was saying is when I was going through my suicidal ideation, um, I remember looking at Jay and I was like, I don't know how I'm gonna live till fifty. I don't want to be here till fifty. Now I'm kind of like, shit, I might want to hang out till I'm eighty, you know? But back when I was feeling like, you know, really depressed, it was really brutal just thinking about having to live another ten years, you know?

• 8:02Speaker 04

  I mean, when I was younger and I wasn't on any antidepressants and I grew up, you know, with a mom who has borderline and my dad worked all the time and I just was really struggling. And I remember I used to want to die all the time. I would pray to God, I don't want to wake up, I don't want to wake up, I don't want to be here anymore. And then finally, when I was sixteen, um, I was a cutter. And so I got caught at school cutting. They sent me to the hospital. I got put in inpatient. And then from there, they ended up putting me on an antidepressant.

• 8:34Bunnie XO?

  At sixteen?

• 8:35Speaker 04

  Yeah, so I've been on the same one since sixteen and um, it's called Effexor XR. It's a gnarly one like. It basically, it really works, right? So like I have really bad panic anxiety and. It does a good job to the point like where I'm able to like go on tour with my husband. I'm able to, you know, do things like when I got put on it. They put me on like a hundred and fifty milligrams. Now I weaned myself down through the years to the starting dose.

• 9:01Bunnie XO?

  Wow.

• 9:02Speaker 04

  Um, but I've tried to get off of it completely because you know, my life has changed and your life does change and that's what I think people need to remember is that, you know. You may be in a season of your life where things are horrible and you won't, you don't want to be here, but that doesn't mean that spring isn't coming, you know? It does. It comes, you know? People sit there and they think this is forever. It's not. Nothing's forever, good and bad, right? So I weaned myself down to the lowest dose of that. And so I've just been on that forever. And it just kind of helps me get through, you know what I mean? And um, it's hard. It's really hard. You, do you take anything to help yourself?

• 9:37Bunnie XO?

  I'm just fucking raw dogging life. Um, I'm not against it though. There was, I, I had a Xanax addiction because my anxiety was so bad, so I did get.

• 9:44Speaker 04

  That's hard to kick, man.

• 9:46Bunnie XO?

  I did it cold turkey and I, I have to caution you guys. You cannot quit Xanax cold turkey. I'm just telling you, yeah, my story and. That's how I did it, but I don't know how I fucking didn't end up having seizures because I was on so much of it, but.

• 9:59Speaker 04

  The fact that you made it through that is insane because benzodiazepine, like.

• 10:04Bunnie XO?

  Children's Benadryl.

• 10:05Speaker 04

  Getting off of it. That is so fucking crazy. We have that in common. So when I got off of the Effexor for, I only did one year. I was off of Effexor right before Vine started.

• 10:16Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 10:17Speaker 04

  I was off of Effexor for a whole year. And you know, and I'm still have this issue with Effexor and I'm sure anyone that has taken it will relate to this is to say it's almost as hard or if not worse than kicking heroin. Your body, your brain is so addicted to it. I don't even know why they prescribe it. I mean, other than it does work for depression, panic, but the getting off of it is unreal. I got off of it the whole year. My head, I couldn't walk straight. I was spinning.

• 10:43Bunnie XO?

  Like vertigo?

• 10:44Speaker 04

  Felt like I was gonna throw up. I started going to the Balance Center on La Cienega to help me learn how to walk straight. Cause I would walk like I was on a boat for a year and I would call my doctor and I'd go, this Effexor fucked my brain up, man. Like this fucked me up. And he would gaslight me and say, no, it's not, it's not, you're fine, you're fine. And blah. And I used to take Children's Benadryl all day.

• 11:06Bunnie XO?

  It's a savior.

• 11:06Speaker 04

  All day. And people will be like, how are you taking that and not falling asleep?

• 11:10Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 11:10Speaker 04

  Because my nervous system was so wrecked, right? And so I was taking this Children's Benadryl all day and then I fought for a whole year. I said, I'm gonna give it a year. If I don't get better, then I'm gonna get back on it. And I just couldn't do it. A year later, I was still sick. I started doing Vine. I was getting all these opportunities and I couldn't go to the meetings because I was too

• 11:31Bunnie XO?

  Just fucked up.

• 11:33Speaker 04

  Sick, like shaky, confused. It gives you brain fog. Like it, I think it permanently changed the chemistry in my brain, right?

• 11:39Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 11:40Speaker 04

  So then I went back on it and it all went away.

• 11:44Bunnie XO?

  That is insane.

• 11:45Speaker 04

  So it's kind of fucked.

• 11:46Bunnie XO?

  That's what I, I tell people about getting off Xanax. They're like, well, when did you start feeling better? And I'm like, honestly, probably 2023. And I got sober in 2017. I'm like, it has taken, so, and I'm still not a hundred percent. You know, like you, when you have, when you take pills that mess with your neurological system.

• 12:04Speaker 04

  Oh my god.

• 12:04Bunnie XO?

  I don't, it takes forever.

• 12:06Speaker 04

  I'm so proud of you.

• 12:08Bunnie XO?

  Oh, I appreciate you.

• 12:09Speaker 04

  That is really fucking hard, dude. People don't realize, I mean, I would do anything to not be on anything, but I also know that in my family. There's schizophrenia, there's borderline, there's all this stuff. So like if I didn't take it, I'm really putting myself at risk for not

• 12:23Bunnie XO?

  Absolutely.

• 12:24Speaker 04

  Healthy and like, I'm like, you know what? This is a tiny bit and I try to just give myself grace and just be like, it's not, you know, I don't take benzos. I don't do any of that. So that's the only thing I take.

• 12:34Bunnie XO?

  I've always wanted to ask you, where do you think the trauma started that you have, that have such a dysregulated nervous system? Like the, I know my trauma started when I was fucking probably at the moment of conception, you know, because I do say trauma starts in the womb. So I mean, I feel like my mom was already, my mom was diagnosed schizophrenic. Um, so it's definitely in the family too. Um, dad's a narcissist. So you know, the trauma starts as children. Like, tell me a little bit about your childhood.

• 13:02Speaker 04

  Well, I, I mean, it's like the body keeps the score, right? So that's a really big book. So my mom was pregnant with me and I was born with a really severe birth defect. I was born with clubbed feet. So my feet were bent in completely, almost backwards. And at that time, nineteen eighty-six, uh, there wasn't like a really good surgery for that. So they didn't know if I was ever gonna walk. So immediately upon being born, I'm taken from my mom and I'm putting casts, heavy casts and they bent my legs straight, which was painful and they put these casts on.

• 13:37Bunnie XO?

  Oh, my gosh.

• 13:38Speaker 04

  And so I couldn't move. I couldn't roll over as a baby. And I'm like, I can't even imagine just even as a baby, obviously I don't remember, but

• 13:45Bunnie XO?

  Your nervous system.

• 13:46Speaker 04

  My nervous system immediately, as soon as you enter the world, you're being thrown in these cat, heavy casts. You can't roll over. You can't do anything. And I do have memories of just being really scared all the time. And I don't know why I was just scared. My, my parents, my mom yelled a lot.

• 14:00Bunnie XO?

  Oh, I'm setting my step.

• 14:02Speaker 04

  So that yelling, I just, like, it just would

• 14:05Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 14:05Speaker 04

  freak me out and throw shit, break stuff. And I just was like, I can't handle this as a kid. I remember and

• 14:12Bunnie XO?

  Do you yell as an adult now?

• 14:14Speaker 04

  No.

• 14:14Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, I'm, I'm the same way too.

• 14:16Speaker 04

  Meager, meek person because of that. Um, and, uh, and so I remember laying in my crib and I just remember being really scared all the time. Probably my earliest memory is that my dad felt so bad for me. He used to sleep on the floor next to my crib. And that would be the only thing that made me feel safe and I couldn't roll over because I had casts on my legs. And I remember my dad would try to army crawl out of the room and I'd go eh and then he just lay back down. But I do remember just being up all night staring to make sure he wouldn't leave and then I would like sleep during the day. And I still have this weird thing with nighttime now, like I'm I'm up all night. Me too, until like three or four.

• 14:56Speaker 04

  Yeah, and then I fall asleep like during the day. It's so weird. My husband's total opposite, but yeah, so I think that's like kind of how it started was my feet and then. You know, my mom struggling with the borderline and my parents got divorced really, really young and then my dad just raised us by himself. Where'd mom go? Well, she freaked out in front of the judge. Oh. Because normally a mother would get custody. Right. Um, and so they were in custody court and my mom, you know, people with borderline, they can only mask it so much. Right. And I think the judge said something she did not like and then boom, there went the trigger and the judge saw it. Wow.

• 15:34Speaker 04

  And it was right about when my parents were supposed to get fifty fifty and then the judge saw that and was like, nope, now you don't get any custody. Wow. And you can only have visitation with your kids with two, two, uh, had to be two super, my aunt and my grandma were supposed to be there. Wow. So they really gave it to her and I also feel really bad for my mom because my mom was a nurse. Hmm. And so, you know, nurses like they don't think that they need help because they're a nurse, you know what I mean? So it's like. I feel like that generation too. Yeah, too. They just don't want to take anything for it. And you know, my mom, I have to say now she takes something and she's doing great. Yay. And it's like, it's like crazy. Like if this could have been her when I was younger, it would have been amazing. You know what I mean?

• 16:18Speaker 04

  But back then they kind of were just anti that stuff, you know what I mean? And so she really like. You went through it. I mean, she was just tormented by her own brain and it was really hard. So I didn't really see her much. And my dad worked a lot and so it was like by myself a lot, really bad depression. And then there was cutting and I didn't have a lot of friends. I just have my one friend that I'm still friends with and.

• 16:40Bunnie XO?

  When did you start cutting?

• 16:43Speaker 04

  Well, I wanted to like die, so I was like not strong enough to like kill myself. So I would just like like try and then like I couldn't like kill myself. So it was like really sad and then.

• 16:53Bunnie XO?

  When did that start? Like how?

• 16:54Speaker 04

  Like I was probably fifteen, fourteen, fifteen.

• 16:58Bunnie XO?

  Like your hormones are kicking in.

• 16:59Speaker 04

  Yeah, and I just remember just feeling like I've always just felt really uncomfortable in life. I always felt like I don't belong. And I would like go to school and like I would make people laugh and like then I'd come home and just be like, I'm so sad. And it was just weird.

• 17:13Bunnie XO?

  They say the funniest people are the saddest.

• 17:15Speaker 04

  Yeah, like I would entertain everybody and then I'd be like, okay, well, the job's done and like, you know, it was like so sad. Cause like I never wanted anyone else to ever feel sad. So I would go in and just make everybody. I'd be like the clown, you know, I got voted like class clown out of the girls and the guys. And then I would go home and just be so depressed and feel so empty. You know, so it was just really hard and you know, um.

• 17:37Bunnie XO?

  Did cutting get make you feel like a sense of relief?

• 17:40Speaker 04

  Well, you get like endorphins, you do get like a surge of endorphins, you know, so I would get a little bit of that, but also I was just like hoping that one day I could fully do it, you know what I mean? But then I also felt so bad for my dad. Cause I was like, my dad was trying so hard. He was working so much to support my brother and I and so it was really sad. So I will say the medicine did help me, but the thing that was the best for me was just getting the fuck out of Pennsylvania.

• 18:04Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 18:05Speaker 04

  Getting away from.

• 18:06Bunnie XO?

  Pennsylvania is kind of dreary. Anytime we've gone there on tour, it's always like just melancholy.

• 18:10Speaker 04

  It's depressing, like I like as soon as I moved to California when I was seventeen, as soon as I graduated, I moved right to.

• 18:18Bunnie XO?

  You're like fuck this, I'm leaving.

• 18:20Speaker 04

  Bye bye. And I just.

• 18:21Bunnie XO?

  Was dad okay with that?

• 18:21Speaker 04

  Yes, and the whole reason it happened was because my stepmom grew up in California and like we went and visited here on a trip. And I was just like, I just feel so much better here.

• 18:32Speaker 04

  Yeah, and like being away from all the drama and you know, and I was, and I was in theater and I was like loving theater and loving acting. And I knew I wanted to do something in entertainment. And so I was like, I'm gonna go try, you know what I mean? So I just came by myself at seventeen and then like just worked a bunch of fucking odd jobs and did stand up and like, oh god, it's just like such a journey.

• 18:52Bunnie XO?

  So let's talk about it. So your first night in LA, you came here by yourself. What is seventeen year old Brittany doing?

• 19:00Speaker 04

  Well, so my dad was like, you have to go to college because you can't just go out there with nothing. So I enlisted in the easiest college I could find, which was fashion school.

• 19:10Bunnie XO?

  Oh, nice.

• 19:11Speaker 04

  Literally, I was like, what's the most dumb shit? Like, you know what I mean? Like, our quizzes were like, what outfits are cute? You know what I mean? Like this one, not that one.

• 19:19Bunnie XO?

  Right. Like, there's not a wrong answer.

• 19:20Speaker 04

  Yeah, like, it's like not even, like, what colors are on the color wheel? Like, it was just so stupid. It was dumb as shit. I'm like, I can't believe we're paying for this, but, but I loved it, you know, and I met some good friends there.

• 19:32Speaker 04

  And so I was in fashion school and that was in downtown LA in two thousand and six.

• 19:39Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, that was like prime time LA.

• 19:41Speaker 04

  Dude, there was nothing there though. Downtown, there was nothing. It was like fucking homeless people and businessmen during the day. There was no LA Live yet. There was nothing.

• 19:50Bunnie XO?

  Wow.

• 19:51Speaker 04

  So I used to have to like walk through all this craziness to get to school. I lived on Seventh and Bixhall.

• 19:56Bunnie XO?

  Wow.

• 19:56Speaker 04

  And it was just insane. And I thought like, wow, this isn't Hollywood. I was like, this place sucks, you know, because I lived in downtown LA. I'm like, where the fuck's all the cool shit, you know? So I eventually ended up moving into a house in the Hollywood Hills with my friends. And then that's when it was kind of the, the whole thing begins and I, I start doing open mic comedy and stand up.

• 20:15Bunnie XO?

  Two thousand and six in LA and Vegas was like peak times.

• 20:19Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 20:20Bunnie XO?

  It was like peak times of just, it was kind of like, I don't want to say innocent, but it was like, it was and like, we had so much fucking fun.

• 20:27Speaker 04

  Yeah, well, you did.

• 20:28Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. I did.

• 20:30Speaker 04

  I did not have fun. I struggle city'd.

• 20:34Bunnie XO?

  Oh.

• 20:34Speaker 04

  Dude, I was, I mean, it was like, it wasn't, I was happy to be out here.

• 20:37Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 20:37Speaker 04

  Way better than being in Pennsylvania, but I was struggling.

• 20:41Bunnie XO?

  No way, like financially or just like spiritually?

• 20:43Speaker 04

  All of it, all of it. I mean, I, I had to pay, my rent was, I lived in a three bedroom house that was gorgeous. And two thousand and six, my rent, my quarter of the rent was seven fifty a month. So I had to come up with seven fifty. I mean, that's nothing these days.

• 20:56Bunnie XO?

  Right, yeah.

• 20:57Speaker 04

  We look at that now and we're like, whoa.

• 20:58Bunnie XO?

  But no, back then, like, that's a lot.

• 21:01Speaker 04

  And so I um, I was super skinny. I was like, maybe like a hundred and five pounds. And so my, I got picked up to be a fit model from my school to the, the fashion district downtown. So I would have all these like, like fashion companies that were owned by like all these Asian people and they would stand around me and speak another language and they would try clothes on me all day and they'd be like, oh, no, no, no. And like them trying outfits on me because they would make the pattern and everything and they like to use live models, right? And so this job was great. I got paid like two hundred dollars an hour. Wow. And you'd be there for like four hours, like every couple of times a week, right? Getting fitted. It was great. And I was standing there, but the one rule was that you couldn't gain weight. Oh, my gosh.

• 21:41Speaker 04

  So I would see girls come in and they measured us every day. They would measure us and make sure like, uh oh, and then one of the girls would get fat and then they would like whisper to each other and they'd be like, and she'd be like, what? What do you mean? Get the fuck out, Cassandra, you fat ass. Like, you know what I mean? Like, she like got it. Asians are so cutthroat. They don't give a shit. When a girl would get called into the office, we were all like, fuck, like damn, right? So I would just see girls coming and going all the time. Yeah. But I would like make them laugh. So I think they liked me, right? Yeah. I lasted two years there. Wow. Which is crazy because I saw a million girls get come and go, come and go, come and go. And then finally they got rid of me. How are you not gaining weight? Were you, did you develop an eating disorder or anything? I was on Adderall. Oh, gosh.

• 22:23Speaker 04

  Like my roommate was on Adderall and she was like, dude, you're really ADHD. You should go see the doctor and get on Adderall. This is back then when they would prescribe anything for anyone at any time. And then I went and I, and my, my psychiatrist at the time, because I was on such a high dose of the Effexor at that point. Um, he, because it would make me really tired, but I was still very ADHD. And he's like, you know what? Adderall would be great with this. And he gave it to me. Mixing it too? It actually was great. And I, and I did great. And I only like, you know, I, I did actually really well on it. And for someone who has anxiety, I didn't really have anxiety on it. And I did really well on the Adderall Effexor combo. Yeah. And then one day, uh, in two thousand, like fifteen, or no, I'm sorry, two thousand, probably thirteen.

• 23:06Speaker 04

  I got a really bad flu and I and I stopped taking the Adderall, you know, because I was sick. I was like, I'm not gonna take Adderall for him, like sick. And then my body just felt so tired and I was like, oh, this is speed. And I was like, I don't want it anymore. I and I kicked it and I didn't want it anymore. And my doctors even now have tried to give it to me because I'm tired all the time.

• 23:24Bunnie XO?

  Really?

• 23:25Speaker 04

  And I was like, guys, I can't, I'm too anxious. So I can't like take anything, you know what I mean?

• 23:29Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 23:30Speaker 04

  Barely drink a little bit of caffeine.

• 23:32Bunnie XO?

  Oh, I coffee, I'll fucking be rocking back and forth.

• 23:35Speaker 04

  Coffee, my heart pounds out of my chest. But I try to drink the um, the strawberry refreshers from Starbucks.

• 23:41Bunnie XO?

  Those will crack you out too.

• 23:42Speaker 04

  But they only have forty five milligrams of caffeine. And so I ask them to make it with extra water.

• 23:46Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 23:47Speaker 04

  And I'll have a little bit of that and that'll make okay.

• 23:49Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 23:49Speaker 04

  But yeah, it's, I did really well on the like high dose of Effexor, low dose Adderall for years, but it does, for me, I was already thin and then Adderall on top of that, you just don't eat. And then I became obsessed with my weight because of the fit stuff. And so I was very skinny. Yeah, it was really bad. But yeah, no, I mean, I was surviving, you know what I mean? You know, I wouldn't say it was a bad time. I would just say it was like a more like me hustling, like what was I gonna do, you know? And I was trying to act and I was trying to do comedy. And so it was a crazy time. And then that's how I met Josh. We love Josh. Josh is my ex-boyfriend, which is so funny.

• 24:29Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, it's just crazy how worlds collide. Yeah, he's a sweetie pie. Such a sweetie pie.

• 24:35Speaker 04

  He um, so he and I met through stand-up and we dated when we were both really young. I mean, I was probably like twenty one maybe.

• 24:43Bunnie XO?

  How did you get into stand-up? You just one day was like, you know what? I'm a funny motherfucker. I'm gonna go stand in front of a crowd. Cause it's, that's a tough thing to get into.

• 24:50Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 24:50Bunnie XO?

  Especially for somebody who deals with anxiety.

• 24:52Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah. But I was like, at that time, I don't know why. It's like, I was so driven. And I was again on a higher dose of my medication, so I wasn't as scared. And so I would go do the open, they have open mics at the Comedy Store. You can sign up and the improv, you can sign up, you know, at like six o'clock, you do that like five minutes, right? And so I would do the open mics at the Comedy Store. And I remember Tommy, who used to work there as the manager, he doesn't work there anymore. You know, I never had material, so I would just go up there and riff with the audience, the little audience that was there.

• 25:24Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 25:24Speaker 04

  And I always had so much fun and was so good at it. And Tommy, who worked there was like, you gotta stay with this. You're so good at this.

• 25:30Bunnie XO?

  Oh.

• 25:31Speaker 04

  You know, and he doesn't work there anymore. But then I, so then I got, uh, I was doing a open mic at, um, uh, this place called, uh, God, what was it called? It was on Melrose. I forget the fucking name of it. It was this bar.

• 25:41Bunnie XO?

  Hmm.

• 25:42Speaker 04

  And a casting director from E was watching the open mics. And she was like, you're so funny. I want you to come audition for this show on E. And I was like, this is how it happens, baby. I'll call my parents. I'm like, I don't even know you anymore. Like, I'm famous. And like, you know, like, and, and so I end up auditioning for this show. It was called Reality Hell on E. And it was basically from the creators of Punkt, where they were doing like a prank show.

• 26:05Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 26:05Speaker 04

  Where you would prank people and make them think they were on a reality show, but they weren't, right? And so I did a couple of seasons of that show. And then I ended up doing Prank My Mom on TLC. And so I was doing all these like prank shows. And I was dating Josh. And Josh would like show everybody. He'd be like, look how cool my girlfriend is. She's on TV. It was so funny. But then I stopped doing stand up because like I was, you know, doing the show. I'm like, I already made it. This is what all the stand ups want to do. You know what I mean? And then those shows went nowhere, right?

• 26:30Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 26:31Speaker 04

  Um, and then I met my, I, Josh and I ended up breaking up. And I met my boyfriend Randall, who's a, was a, a music video director. And I was in a music video. And then he bought me my first iPhone. And then Vine came out and then.

• 26:46Bunnie XO?

  Vine was crazy. I remember you on Vine. I was never, uh, I never did the Vine thing, but I had an account and would watch them. I was like one of those weirdos. Um, and I loved you on Vine. You had like fucking like, what, nine million followers on Vine? Ten? Yeah. It was crazy.

• 27:02Speaker 04

  Wild. And like, it was weird because I was, when I got on there, it was like all these people that I looked up to, like James Urbaniak and, um, uh, what's his name? Goldberg and, uh, fucking, uh, Simon Rex and, you know, all these people had all these.

• 27:16Bunnie XO?

  De Nasty or what is, what is Simon Rex?

• 27:18Speaker 04

  Dirt Nasty.

• 27:18Bunnie XO?

  Dirt Nasty.

• 27:18Speaker 04

  Yeah, Will Sasso, like all these comedians had really big followings on there. And then I started surpassing them. And I was like, this is crazy. And then it started turning into. You know, brands calling me and being like, hey, it's benefit cosmetics calling. Can we pay you $10,000 to do a video? And I was like, yeah, I did this video for like free lip gloss. You know what I mean? Like, I'm so glad they offered it first because they would be like, can we give you like one blush? I'd be like, yes, one blush is fine, you know?

• 27:44Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 27:45Speaker 04

  So I ended up then, then ended up that taking off. I started getting all these brand deals. And then when, when, when talent agencies see you're making money, that's when they come. They're like little sharks. It's like chum in the water.

• 27:55Bunnie XO?

  Oh, we, we signed with, I'm signed with WME right now.

• 27:57Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah. So am I with WME.

• 27:59Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, I didn't know that. WME sisters.

• 28:01Speaker 04

  I love that. And so, um, ICM, CAA and UTA all emailed me in the same week.

• 28:07Bunnie XO?

  Love that.

• 28:08Speaker 04

  And wanted to take a meeting and I had my first meeting with ICM and, you know, places don't usually do this. But when I was going to leave, they were like, we really want you to be with us, like, sign this paper and blah, blah, blah. And I had a really like shitty manager at the time and she was like, yeah, you should just do it. Instead of taking the other two meetings. And so I ended up signing with ICM. They did absolutely nothing for me. They didn't help me at all. They didn't, they just collected money. So it was just like a nightmare, but you know, it is what it is.

• 28:35Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, it's a learning.

• 28:36Speaker 04

  You live and you learn, but you know, I feel like the, the talent, uh, agent industry is like very different now. They kind of just wanna you to do all the work, you to get the followers, you to make the money.

• 28:47Bunnie XO?

  We talk about this all the time. I love you, Sloan, but yes, we agree.

• 28:50Speaker 04

  Yeah, no, everybody like, I mean, they do. They literally, I mean, my husband has these friends that are like incredible musicians. Like their band, their music is unfucking real.

• 28:59Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 29:00Speaker 04

  But then they try to get signed and the first thing these agencies say are how many followers do you have?

• 29:05Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 29:05Speaker 04

  And they're just indie guys. They don't care about Instagram.

• 29:08Bunnie XO?

  Which you can blow up nowadays, social media.

• 29:11Speaker 04

  If you get on a TikTok or something.

• 29:12Bunnie XO?

  Literally.

• 29:13Speaker 04

  But you gotta get something, you know? And these guys are not into that. And so it's like, they end up suffering and not making it. And it's like, you know, so I've just had like bad experiences, you know, I just, I went from one to the one to the one. And I'm just like, this is like, nobody, nobody wanted to do anything. Everyone wanted to just collect.

• 29:29Bunnie XO?

  Kind of moot, yeah. You also during this time, I'm gonna look at my notes really quick.

• 29:33Speaker 04

  I'm dead. You took notes? I love you. Holy shit. I feel so bad. I had you on ours and I'm all just like, hello.

• 29:39Bunnie XO?

  Like, no, you're good. During this time, you got an award, right? Or something like that? You were in a pit bull video.

• 29:46Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah. He's the best. He still follows me. I love him.

• 29:50Bunnie XO?

  I love that. You are the most followed woman on Vine.

• 29:52Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 29:53Bunnie XO?

  And you, your influence was so big at the time that Time Magazine in 2015 listed you as the 30 most influential people on the internet.

• 30:01Speaker 04

  Yeah, with Kim Kardashian and Barack Obama.

• 30:03Bunnie XO?

  That's fucking huge.

• 30:04Speaker 04

  Dude, I cut that shit out.

• 30:06Bunnie XO?

  I was gonna say, do you have it framed in your house?

• 30:08Speaker 04

  I'll never forget at the issue of Time, it was a TV on the front with a reflection in it.

• 30:13Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 30:14Speaker 04

  They made it reflectable so you could see yourself.

• 30:16Bunnie XO?

  Mm-hmm.

• 30:16Speaker 04

  And it was really cool. And I bought like 30 copies and I sent it to my family and I'm like, yes, you're not a failure. Like, I'm not a failure.

• 30:23Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, cuz you know, somebody at home is waiting for you to fail.

• 30:25Speaker 04

  Everyone's waiting for me to fail.

• 30:27Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 30:27Speaker 04

  Uh, they still are waiting. Keep waiting.

• 30:29Bunnie XO?

  Uh, I think you've done pretty damn good with that, though.

• 30:32Speaker 04

  I try. And then, yeah, so amazing stuff happened. I got really, you know, I, I say it's a blessing, um, because, um, you know, God, I feel like, you know, not to get religious on your podcast, but.

• 30:44Bunnie XO?

  No, you can. I love Jesus. Jesus is my homie.

• 30:47Speaker 04

  I have a lot of faith. And I think that, God, I pray all the time. And I think God has really come through for me.

• 30:52Bunnie XO?

  Prayer is, to me, prayer is a form of manifesting.

• 30:56Speaker 04

  Absolutely.

• 30:57Bunnie XO?

  Like, you're literally, you're asking the universe and you're asking God, like, hey, this is what I need. Your words are spells. So as soon as you put them in the, in the universe, it gets grabbed, you know? So I, I love, you can get religious as you want on my podcast. I love it.

• 31:11Speaker 04

  And you're so right about that, you know? I pray to God every night. I pray before I eat. Um, and I just, you know, I feel like God has really come through with, for me. And I know a lot of people are like, some people don't believe in it, whatever, but it's like, it's such a personal experience. And I really feel something, so.

• 31:27Bunnie XO?

  You're so wholesome.

• 31:28Speaker 04

  Oh.

• 31:29Bunnie XO?

  You really are. Like, I, I would never picture you to be as wholesome as you are. Like, you're just really such a sweetie pie.

• 31:35Speaker 04

  Thanks. I mean, I'm a goofball when I'm, you know, performing or online, but I have a very, like, real, serious side, too, and, and.

• 31:42Bunnie XO?

  Do you feel like there's two different Britneys?

• 31:44Speaker 04

  Oh, for sure.

• 31:44Bunnie XO?

  One that you present to the world and then one at home?

• 31:46Speaker 04

  A hundred percent. And you probably relate to this, too. It's like, a lot of people with autism, or I don't wanna say I have autism, but I do say that I.

• 31:54Bunnie XO?

  Have autistic traits.

• 31:55Speaker 04

  I have my mask where like I perform.

• 31:58Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 31:58Speaker 04

  And then I come home and I'm like, okay, and I take it off.

• 32:01Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 32:02Speaker 04

  You know what I mean? It's almost like taking off a heavy coat.

• 32:04Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 32:04Speaker 04

  And then I'm like, okay, now I can be me again. You know what I mean? And um, there's just so many other little weird things I do. I won't get into, but yeah.

• 32:11Bunnie XO?

  Well, you took the test.

• 32:12Speaker 04

  I did. I got a one thirty eight.

• 32:14Bunnie XO?

  So the next step is we have to get diagnosed.

• 32:15Speaker 04

  I know. It's it's so to go get diagnosed. So I looked into it because my brother's um, son is autistic.

• 32:21Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 32:22Speaker 04

  Excuse me. My brother has some things he's struggling with and then he was going to get the official test for it as well. And then they were like, it's twenty five hundred dollars. And then I was like, okay. And then what do they do as an adult? Because with children, when my nephew got uh, you know, he got diagnosed. Now the government actually will send people to your house to help you work with your autistic child, which is really nice. There's a lot of government programs, believe it or not, that will. So a couple of times a week, they send someone over to my uh, my brother's house and they teach them how to work with my nephew. So that he doesn't get overstimulated. They learn his triggers. They learn, you know, all kinds of things.

• 32:57Bunnie XO?

  Autism is hereditary now, is what they're saying. So I definitely think my mom had some things going on because she was super OCD like I am and like, you know, so I would love to.

• 33:07Speaker 04

  There's so many different versions and I don't really think anyone's normal, you know? Like we all have our own things and quirks and you know, I think that there's really high functioning autism and with mixed with ADD and all kinds of other things that's harder to diagnose and things like that, you know? I don't think anyone can particularly put people in like a box, you know what I mean?

• 33:26Bunnie XO?

  There's not one size fits all.

• 33:27Speaker 04

  Yeah, like I feel like we all have a little bit of, you know, and it all kind of intertwines, you know? So um.

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• 34:04Speaker 04

  But yeah, so then um, I did the Vine thing and then uh. I was, you know, I dated a really horrible guy who cheated on me with prostitutes and then I went through that breakup. Yeah. And then I met my husband on Raya.

• 34:21Speaker 06

  Oh, in 2017.

• 34:23Speaker 04

  So it's been seven years.

• 34:25Speaker 06

  Oh, so what is Raya? Because my doctor reached out to me the other day and she's like, hey, I need you as a reference for Raya.

• 34:33Speaker 04

  Your doctor?

• 34:33Speaker 06

  And I was like, I was like, what is Raya? And she was like, don't worry about it. Just can I use you as a reference? And I was like, sure. I don't care. What is it?

• 34:42Speaker 04

  So it's like, basically, like, when they first started it, it was like, it's like a celebrity dating app. Well, it's not like that. I don't feel like anymore. I mean, there's a lot of famous people on there still. Like I do Drew Barrymore's on there. A bunch of people are on there playing with it.

• 34:54Speaker 06

  Drew Barrymore's on Raya? That's awesome.

• 34:56Speaker 04

  She said she was on something like that. And then, uh, yeah. So when I got on, I had no idea. So basically because I had a big following, the creators reached out to me and said, hey, we want to, you know, give you an account. They weren't charging for it at the time. You just had to be.

• 35:09Speaker 06

  We need to put Haley on Raya.

• 35:10Speaker 04

  You had to be approved. You have to be approved. Yeah. So it's a kind of a gnarly thing. So they were like, we just want to put you on there. It's a dating app. We know you're single and like, we think you'd be great.

• 35:19Speaker 06

  Who's doing the approving?

• 35:21Speaker 04

  The guys who run the app.

• 35:23Speaker 06

  God, that's crazy.

• 35:24Speaker 04

  I don't know. I don't know if it's the guys who create. At first I think it may have been the guys who created it.

• 35:28Speaker 06

  And now they have a team.

• 35:29Speaker 04

  And now they probably have a team, but, um, so they put me on there and I remember the first time I opened it, I'm scrolling and it's like, Joshua Jackson, Elijah Wood, John Mayer, like, and I can say all this now because I'm never going back on the app. You're usually not allowed to talk about it or they'll take your account away.

• 35:44Speaker 06

  Well, I'm going on Raya.

• 35:45Speaker 04

  Yeah, dead.

• 35:47Speaker 06

  Jay will be like, what are you doing?

• 35:48Speaker 04

  People go on there for like just friends. We're like, yeah, right. Yeah, right. Tell us how your relationship's not working out. Uh, it's so crazy. Um, so, so I got on there. There were all these famous people. I went out with a bunch of them. Uh, maybe like two or three, actually. Um.

• 36:05Speaker 04

  Not really, actually. Everyone was really nice. Damn it, I'm tired of these nice guys. Actually, I, you know, I don't have any, um, with like famous people. You know what I mean? They mine their peas and use. Yeah, like they're really sweet. Like I did go on a date with Elijah Wood and he was just like so sweet. No, he's very small. Yeah. And I, I wasn't like attracted to him, but I really liked his personality and he was like so nice. And he has this really cool house that has like a big movie theater and like in the like living area and he was just like so nice and so cool, but not like romantic vibes. Right. You know? Like homie. Huh? Like a homie. Yeah, he was just really cool guy and I think he's like, I think he has a wife now and a kid and you know, whatever. I've run into him since then. He's just a really sweet person. Yeah.

• 36:51Speaker 04

  Um, yeah. And so I, I mean, everyone that I went out with was pretty cool. I didn't, I didn't like click with anyone because I, I am so particular. You know what I mean? People are always like, oh, you're just with Tommy for his money. I went out with so many other people that I could have been with for their, for their money. If that was the case, but I was making so much money on Vine. People have no idea. No, I bet. You were like one of the first people to monetize that platform, right? Or to even monetize social media. Exactly. Like, I'm like, that I did not need and I still don't need, you know, I still always, you know, I do my jewelry and I do my own thing still because. The necklace you have on is from your jewelry line? What is it? Love? It's called lovely jewelry and it's just kind of something fun to like do with my hands and not be on my phone. Yeah. So I love that. I want to start crocheting so that I do that. Yeah, it's amazing. I swear to God.

• 37:36Speaker 04

  It looks hard. I'm, I'll let you know how it goes. Okay, let me know how it goes. Yeah. You're like, I did one stitch and I hated it. I do. I want to crochet. I forgot to tell you. I've dived into this. I'm going to try to do this in March when I take, I take every March off. So I'm going to try to learn how to crochet during March. You just turn into a full on grandma. Next time I do your podcast, you're just covered in like a fucking. I'm going to make you a blanket bitch. You're just knitting during the whole podcast. Uh huh. Yep. Rocking in your chair with a cat in your lap. With my bifocals on, literally. And a Bible, just like full on. I'm like, wow, bunny's taking a turn. Um, well, one extreme to the other. Um, yeah, so. No, I so I do the jewelry and I like I always try to make my own money. I actually don't like to spend any of my husband's money because

• 38:14Bunnie XO?

  Same way.

• 38:15Speaker 04

  Because I my grandma told me this quote when I was younger and she said, if you give them the power to feed you, you give them the power to starve you.

• 38:24Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 38:25Speaker 04

  And that shit hit me like a ton of bricks. I was like, ah, you know what I mean?

• 38:29Bunnie XO?

  It's so real though.

• 38:31Speaker 04

  Shit, you know, plus like I'm I have a fear of abandonment all the time. So I'm always like, I gotta make sure I'm okay.

• 38:36Bunnie XO?

  You're always afraid the carpet's gonna get yanked out from underneath you.

• 38:39Speaker 04

  Always.

• 38:40Bunnie XO?

  No, I'm the same way. We were checking into the the hotel here and they're like, well, Ms. D Ford, I just want to let you know your card is on file and it has your name on it. Are you okay with that? And I go, yeah, I run my own ship. I said, I don't ask my husband for anything.

• 38:53Speaker 04

  Exactly.

• 38:53Bunnie XO?

  You know, I was I just thought it was crazy that they would ask me that. Like, how many wives do they have? Or like, no, put my husband's card on file. Yeah, that was crazy.

• 39:01Speaker 04

  No shame in that.

• 39:02Bunnie XO?

  At all, yeah. I wish I could be so like

• 39:05Speaker 04

  Easygoing. Yeah, yeah.

• 39:07Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 39:08Speaker 04

  And my husband's very nice. I mean, he gives me a card and he, you know, I don't ever have to.

• 39:12Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 39:12Speaker 04

  Not for want, but you know, it's my own personal thing that I'm like, no, I want to make my own.

• 39:17Bunnie XO?

  And he probably loves that about you too, because men, men test women too.

• 39:21Speaker 04

  Yeah, he does love that about me.

• 39:23Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 39:23Speaker 04

  Especially because this is the weird thing, like when it's their birthday or Christmas, like

• 39:28Bunnie XO?

  You're gonna go buy something with their own money?

• 39:30Speaker 04

  Their own money? Like, I'm like, what? Like, no, that's so weird. That would make me so sad. You know what I mean? Like, here, you bought this for yourself. Happy birthday. You know what I mean?

• 39:38Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, here's my pussy. It's all I got to offer.

• 39:40Speaker 04

  Exactly.

• 39:41Bunnie XO?

  I'm not talking shit about women.

• 39:43Speaker 04

  No, I mean, like, if that's your bag, that's your bag. It's fine. It's fine. It's just not, I I'm not comfortable with it. So, yeah, so I just, I've kind of just done my own thing and, you know.

• 39:53Bunnie XO?

  So 2017.

• 39:54Speaker 04

  2017.

• 39:55Bunnie XO?

  Swiping on Raya.

• 39:56Speaker 04

  He, we match and it's so funny because he is just so funny. Tommy's just like a very Like just know, you know how guys try to be cool and like not text you?

• 40:07Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 40:07Speaker 04

  As soon as we matched, he's like, hi! And it's like thirty messages and he's like, what's up? How are you? Like, wanna hang out? Listen to this new song? Check it out? Did you listen to it yet? Like, it was so funny. It was like, like, and like normally girls would be like, that's a red flag. But for me, I'm like, aww, like, he's so fun. And I was so tired.

• 40:23Bunnie XO?

  He's a puppy.

• 40:23Speaker 04

  Yeah, and he was just so nice. And I was so tired of people that played games or guys that would like.

• 40:29Bunnie XO?

  Like, if you wanna talk to me, talk to me.

• 40:32Speaker 04

  Like, you text them back and then they wait three days to respond and you're like, but then they like are still engaging and they're trying to be cool and I'm just like, whatever. So he was not like that.

• 40:40Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, guys, don't do that. That shit's not cool.

• 40:41Speaker 04

  Don't do it. The girls like guys.

• 40:43Bunnie XO?

  It's cool to care.

• 40:44Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's cool to care. That's a good, yeah, that's a good saying. It is cool to care. So he cared and he was very persistent and he invited me to um Pride, which is so fitting. And we met up at Pride and we just fucking held hands and like never let go. And we started hanging out every single day. And you know, I told the story before, he was like dating Carmen Electra. And then we got together and he just boom, just dropped everybody.

• 41:09Bunnie XO?

  You guys were searching for each other.

• 41:11Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 41:11Bunnie XO?

  You guys really needed each other. I feel like that's how Jay and I were. Like, when you meet that person, you just know. And it's like, there's no questions asked, no words have to be spoken. It's like you literally link up and you never leave each other.

• 41:23Speaker 04

  It's like comfortable.

• 41:24Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, safe.

• 41:25Speaker 04

  And I don't, and safe, and I don't feel comfortable with like a lot of people. So the fact that like when I first hung out with him, I felt instantly very cozy. I was like, this is a weird thing. Like, I'm not used to this, you know? I'm so used to being so worried and I was just so comfortable and we just hit it off right away. I think I moved in after like three weeks.

• 41:43Bunnie XO?

  No.

• 41:44Speaker 04

  And we got engaged after six months and then, yeah.

• 41:47Bunnie XO?

  Jay and I got, Jay and I got married a month after hanging out with each other.

• 41:50Speaker 04

  Amazing.

• 41:52Bunnie XO?

  And everybody's like, you guys are not gonna make it. And here we are, eight years later.

• 41:55Speaker 04

  Same, seven.

• 41:56Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 41:56Speaker 04

  Yes, well, we were a year after you. You were two thousand sixteen. It's so wild, dude, isn't it?

• 42:01Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, no, I love that for you though, that you guys found each other's safe space.

• 42:04Speaker 04

  I'm so happy. Like, I really am. Like, it's just so nice to not be in that world anymore because LA is like bleak for dating, man.

• 42:13Bunnie XO?

  I, we were just talking about this at dinner last night. I feel bad for anybody who has to date in this fucking environment.

• 42:21Speaker 04

  God bless.

• 42:22Bunnie XO?

  So the, the girl we went to dinner with last night, should I tell her story? Said that she went on a date with some guy. He's like, hey, I'm making steaks. Come on over. And then they, he goes, she goes over there. She's like, all right, cool. I didn't really want to go anyways, but I went because I was like, you know, whatever steak. And he opens the door and is like, hey, where's your steak? And she's like, uh, you told me you were cooking steaks. And he's like, all right, well, I have one. So, you know, come on in. So he started, he cooks the steak. He's like, hey, you want a bite? And when it's done cooking and gives her one bite and then throws the fork away and proceeds to eat the steak right in front of her. I was like, if that is what dating is like, I don't fucking want it, dude.

• 42:58Speaker 04

  He said, I'm cooking steaks and then asked her where her steak was? Fucking BYOB steak hanging out? Like, what the fuck?

• 43:06Bunnie XO?

  BYOS.

• 43:06Speaker 04

  BYOS, bring your own steak. Well, I'm sorry. You can have a little nibble of mine. That's crazy.

• 43:12Bunnie XO?

  No, for sure. Uh, yeah, I can imagine.

• 43:15Speaker 04

  Yeah, Brittany, Brittany, my, we do the podcast. This is the worst. Brittany Schmidt comedian. She's

• 43:20Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, we're gonna talk about your podcast too.

• 43:21Speaker 04

  So funny and she's single and the stories.

• 43:24Bunnie XO?

  Oh.

• 43:25Speaker 04

  Oh.

• 43:25Bunnie XO?

  And she likes NBA players.

• 43:27Speaker 04

  Oh my gosh. She likes, I mean,

• 43:29Bunnie XO?

  That's like a glutton for punishment right there.

• 43:31Speaker 04

  But she's tough. This is the girl, like she can take some shit, but I'm like, dude, she's got like some crazy shit that goes on. And I'm just like, oh my God, I can't like, I couldn't handle it.

• 43:42Bunnie XO?

  No, I wouldn't want to do it. It's just, I, I always say if Jay and I don't make it, I'm literally gonna, gonna be like Cher. I'll be 76 years old, dating fucking little 25, 26 year olds. Just so there's no like emotional commitment, like everybody knows what it is.

• 43:56Speaker 04

  Women too. Like not that we're older, but I mean older than them. You know what I mean?

• 43:59Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 44:00Speaker 04

  Like they, young guys.

• 44:01Bunnie XO?

  Mommy issues, so.

• 44:01Speaker 04

  Yeah, like I meet young guys. I'll be at the grocery store and young guys are always like, hi. And I'm like, get away from me, child. Like, what are you doing? Why are you staring at me like that?

• 44:09Bunnie XO?

  Looking at you like you're a steak.

• 44:11Speaker 04

  Yeah. I'm like chill, bro. It's kind of crazy.

• 44:15Bunnie XO?

  So let's circle back to you and Tommy, you know, just hooking up, getting together. The media attention

• 44:22Speaker 04

  Oh boy.

• 44:22Bunnie XO?

  That you guys got. What was that like in the beginning for you? Like you're, I feel like, and we talked about this a little bit off camera is like,

• 44:31Bunnie XO?

  The internet is just so cruel.

• 44:33Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 44:33Bunnie XO?

  And it's, I don't wanna say having to live in the, a shadow of his former relationship, but pretty much like the internet will not let him move on and live happily ever after with you.

• 44:45Speaker 04

  Never.

• 44:46Bunnie XO?

  How do, how do you feel about that? How do you deal with that? Like, wh- where do we start with that?

• 44:51Speaker 04

  I mean, it's so heartbreaking cuz it's like, I've been with my husband, I think, longer than any of the relationships except for Heather. I think he was with Heather for eight years.

• 45:01Bunnie XO?

  You're friends with Heather too, right?

• 45:02Speaker 04

  I love her.

• 45:02Bunnie XO?

  That's amazing.

• 45:03Speaker 04

  I mean, and that's the thing is like, if people are nice to me,

• 45:06Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 45:06Speaker 04

  I am nice to them. If they are not nice to me, I am not nice to them. And like, you know, you see a lot of what's on the media, but you don't know what's happened in real life.

• 45:15Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 45:15Speaker 04

  And so people make their judgments like, oh, this person's so sweet and this person's this and this person's that. And I'm like, like, you don't, people don't realize what is really happening. You know, they are fed what's, what media wants to feed them.

• 45:28Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, it's a machine.

• 45:29Speaker 04

  You don't know these people personally. You don't know the way they've treated people and things like that. And it's, it's not what people think. It's very different.

• 45:36Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 45:36Speaker 04

  And, you know, there's a lot I can say and there's a lot I can't say, obviously, cuz there's kids and Tommy's relationship with his kids, but.

• 45:43Bunnie XO?

  Do you get along with the boys?

• 45:44Speaker 04

  I do. I like the boys. Yeah. I mean, and Tommy had a crazy drinking problem. And I had never been around someone that had a crazy drinking problem.

• 45:51Bunnie XO?

  When you guys first got together, you were still drinking?

• 45:53Speaker 04

  I didn't know, like, how bad this was. And I, you know, we were, we would be together and you'd be drinking all day, but he was still kind of like, pretty, he was pretty regular, you know what I mean? Cuz he was such an alcoholic. He could, he could drink like a whole liter of Tito's and be talking to you.

• 46:09Bunnie XO?

  Oh, my goodness.

• 46:10Speaker 04

  It's pretty scary. And but, but like, for me, like, I'd never been around.

• 46:13Bunnie XO?

  How's his liver?

• 46:13Speaker 04

  He's great now.

• 46:14Bunnie XO?

  Oh, good.

• 46:14Speaker 04

  Yeah, now he's great. Then, not so much. So, you know, he was doing that. And, and you know, it caused a lot of contention cuz the kids were living with us at the time. And, you know, he didn't wanna go out in the living room because they were there with their friends. And so he'd be like, Babe, can you go get me a drink and I and I'm like, I'm so sober person. I really don't, I haven't had a drink in like ten years. Like I don't like it. And he would want me to drink with him, but I'd already been sober pretty much before that. And so I wasn't into drinking. I wouldn't drink with him. You know what I mean? And so I would go to the kitchen and I would fill his glass with mostly water and then I'd pour like a little bit of vodka in. Cause I was like, man, he's already had like way too many drinks. So I would just put mostly water, but just enough so he could, you know, taste it.

• 46:58Speaker 04

  And then when he would go to bed at night, I would dump half the vodka out and I'd fill the bottle with water and I'd like shake it so that hopefully it wouldn't freeze, cause vodka doesn't freeze.

• 47:08Speaker 06

  Right.

• 47:08Speaker 04

  So I had to make sure like, and then he would get mad sometimes because it would be frozen. He'd be like, you put water in it again. You know what I mean? But the boys didn't know I was doing all this. So they would like see me going to the kitchen and they'd be like, think I'm making him drinks and enabling him. And so then they started to hate me. And you know, then that was when that whole thing happened with Brandon, like the intervention, the punching, all this stuff. It was horrible. And then um, I talked to Tommy's manager. He is a really, a manager that really loves him. And I told him, I was like, we gotta get this guy sober. Like this is crazy, you know, like he's killing himself. And so we convinced Tommy somehow to go to rehab.

• 47:46Speaker 04

  And yeah, and um, the day of, he didn't want to go. And then Nikki Sixx came over and helped me put his ass in the car and took him over to rehab and he was there for forty five days and he did really great. And since then, he's been doing really great. He's fallen off the wagon like twice, but it was like really short stints, you know?

• 48:05Speaker 06

  Expected, you know?

• 48:06Speaker 04

  Yeah, he's not, he's not.

• 48:07Speaker 06

  From Tommy Lee.

• 48:07Speaker 04

  He's not perfect. I mean, he was a massive alcoholic and to go from that much of an alcoholic to nothing. That, you know, it was a lot. It was a lot. And then, you know, you have to, when you become sober, living with all those feelings and all these things that he hasn't felt in so long and. You know, um, it took him a while, but now I feel like he's finally like really found his zen. You know, he doesn't even really talk about drinking. He'll like make a joke here and there, but it's like, and that's what I think is so fucked is like, people will be like, oh, he's all coked out or whatever. Like, no, Tommy is sober. Tommy does not use drugs. Like, stop fucking spreading shit about people.

• 48:42Bunnie XO?

  He fucking clips bonsai trees.

• 48:43Speaker 04

  Yeah, he's hyper. He's ADHD. He's a seventeen year old ma- like, man, fifty six, you know, sixty one year old man. He's a child. He's like a very young personality.

• 48:52Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 48:53Speaker 04

  Because he got famous at seventeen and so he's kind of always stayed like very childlike, you know? And that's what's sweet about him is that he is like a little like kid, you know, big kid, but, um, so yeah, so I mean, it's like, I'm just so proud of him because now he's really found his peace.

• 49:09Bunnie XO?

  Proud of you both.

• 49:10Speaker 04

  Yeah, I mean, we're doing, it's just so nice and we just, we're just trying to live our life and not be pulled into, you know,

• 49:16Bunnie XO?

  The bullshit.

• 49:17Speaker 04

  bullshit, man. Like, it's just crazy.

• 49:19Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, I saw what you were having to go through when the Pam and Tommy documentary draw, or not documentary, but the show.

• 49:25Speaker 04

  Oh, the Hulu, the Hulu thing.

• 49:26Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 49:26Speaker 04

  Well, that's like funny because like, so I started dating Tommy and Seth, Seth Rogen follows me.

• 49:33Bunnie XO?

  Hmm.

• 49:33Speaker 04

  And I remember him to watch, he would watch my stories and I would post with Tommy and then all of a sudden, like a couple of months later, it's like, Seth Rogen's producing a Pam and Tommy series, like completely out of nowhere.

• 49:45Bunnie XO?

  Oh.

• 49:45Speaker 04

  And I was like, God, I hope I didn't give him the idea. I'm pretty sure he DM me. I have to check and was like, oh my God, is that Tommy Lee or something like that? Cause he was shocked. Um, but I have to check, but he was following, he follows me and he was following me then and like saw, I would see him see it, you know, and I'm like, that's weird. And then he now is producing, would produce that, show and like that, you know, Tommy had nothing to do with that. Neither, neither of them did. And so, you know, people would say, oh, Tommy gave it his blessing, but not really. Only reason. Um, Tommy ended up in any way involved was because, um, God, who's the guy who plays him? Now I'm like having a fucking Sebastian Stan. So Sebastian is friends with Fred Durst.

• 50:25Bunnie XO?

  Gotcha.

• 50:25Speaker 04

  Because they did a movie together. Fred Durst's the director. And so Fred called Tommy and was like, Sebastian really wants to meet you. He totally understands if you don't want to meet him, you know, it's whatever, but he really wants to meet you. And so Tommy was like, okay, I'll meet him. Tommy's just so nice. You know what I mean? Tommy's just a nice guy. And so we went out to dinner with Sebastian, of course, got papped. And then everyone was like, Tommy's supporting it. And it was like, it wasn't even Tommy supporting it. It was literally Tommy just being nice to a guy who's friends with Fred and like Sebastian actually is such a nice guy. And it's not like, you know what I mean? An actor's just taking a job.

• 50:59Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 50:59Speaker 04

  You know, you can't hate the actor. You know what I mean? Like, you're just like, they're, they're trying to make money. So, you know, people spun out about that and were like, oh, well, why are you mad? Not mad about this, but you're mad about that. And I'm like, nobody's like, like, what are you talking about? We were friends. We were just being nice to Sebastian.

• 51:16Bunnie XO?

  It's crazy that they can come up with so many assumptions off one picture.

• 51:19Speaker 04

  I'm so exhausted.

• 51:20Bunnie XO?

  Can we address the TikTok that, that

• 51:23Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah.

• 51:24Bunnie XO?

  That kind of caused so much chaos.

• 51:25Speaker 04

  It was so stupid on my part.

• 51:27Bunnie XO?

  Even, but it wasn't even a bad TikTok.

• 51:29Speaker 04

  It was a joke.

• 51:30Bunnie XO?

  I could kind of understand where you were coming from because you do get attacked so much online.

• 51:35Speaker 04

  But it was like a joke. It wasn't even to be like that. It was more like because what had happened is as soon as that documentary came out, immediately, within hours, people were flooding my page going, you're interrupting true love. They need to be back together. Meanwhile, I've already been with my husband for five years.

• 51:51Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 51:51Speaker 04

  You know, longer than the whole relationship. And I'm like, this is just so insane. And I remember like, you know, I, I don't have great mental health. And so part of me, whenever anything makes me uncomfortable, my first thought is like, let's make a joke.

• 52:03Bunnie XO?

  Same. I laugh at the most inappropriate shit all the time.

• 52:06Speaker 04

  And I don't think sometimes before I. Act and I was just like, this is funny. And so I just did it and even Tommy was like, it's funny, whatever.

• 52:16Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 52:16Speaker 04

  And then I posted it and I was like, oh God, this is gonna get taken the wrong way. And of course it did. And then so I just took it down right away. It was more just like an intrusive thought, like acting on like an intrusive thought. And then it was somebody already screenshotted it and sent it to the Daily Mail. I literally posted it for like three seconds and then people spun it.

• 52:32Bunnie XO?

  The internet is like that telephone game.

• 52:34Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah.

• 52:35Bunnie XO?

  It's like news for something and then by the time it gets to like the fucking twentieth person.

• 52:39Speaker 04

  It's like, yeah. Yeah, so I was just like, you know what? I just need to shut the fuck up at this point. And I'm just like, I'm so like, now I'm just, you know, I'm just used to it now. It's like I get constantly still get it. And I'm probably gonna get it forever.

• 52:53Bunnie XO?

  Have you ever reached out to Pam or has she reached out to you to just kind of like be like just an olive branch?

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• 53:45Speaker 04

  No, I, I think it just.

• 53:49Bunnie XO?

  Cause I mean, I feel like if I was Tommy's ex in this relationship, I would reach out to you and be like, hey, girl. Like, love you, I'm sorry.

• 53:56Speaker 04

  I mean, when I first started dating Tommy, you know, and all this stuff happened with Brandon and Tommy's alcoholism. She blamed me in a public diary.

• 54:06Bunnie XO?

  Oh.

• 54:07Speaker 04

  And said Brittany's the reason Tommy is drinking so much and that she's an alcoholic and he needs someone to behave bad with.

• 54:14Bunnie XO?

  Gotcha.

• 54:15Speaker 04

  This has since been removed from her like online open journal thing, but it was on there. And I remember being really hurt by that. Never got an apology for that, you know? Even though I'm like, I don't even drink. What are we talking about? Like, this is crazy. And I think it's on like somewhere and then. Of course, everyone is like, yeah, I could see Brittany. She's a alcoholic drug addict. And I'm like,

• 54:35Bunnie XO?

  They're ridiculous.

• 54:36Speaker 04

  scared of everything, like let alone fucking getting wasted. And so I was really hurt by that. And then also it was just like, you know, the texting Tommy here and there and being like, yeah, like, hey, like pictures of yourself, whatever. So it was just like annoying. And it was more just like, oh, like, this is not a good vibe. Whereas with Heather, like Heather would text both of us.

• 54:54Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 54:55Speaker 04

  And be like, do you guys want to like, come over? Do you want to hang out? Blah, blah, blah. Just like a totally different vibe. And it was a very friendly, like welcoming vibe. And so, you know, um, you know, I wish her the best. I really do. I hope because it me, it's sad. Like, I really, I can't imagine like, being so in love with someone still and like, not being with them and then being with someone else. Like, that must really hurt. You know what I mean? Like, fuck the pain. Like, that must really fucking hurt. And it's really sad, probably. And like, you know, for her sake, she's beautiful. She's, you know, still looks great. And I hope she meets someone else and falls in love. I really do. Because that the pain of wanting something.

• 55:35Speaker 04

  Like, I love my husband. I'm not going anywhere. You know what I mean? Like, I mean, unless God forbid some freak accident happens, you know, but like,

• 55:42Bunnie XO?

  It's gonna happen.

• 55:43Speaker 04

  I just like, man, like I, and I, and I almost like I got upset. I was upset at first. Now I'm just like, I'm more like, I feel bad. And I'm like, that must suck, you know, to like, really care for someone so much still and not be with them, you know? So I have sympathy.

• 55:57Bunnie XO?

  Absolutely.

• 55:57Speaker 04

  You know, I've tried to, I try to put myself now.

• 56:00Bunnie XO?

  That's very mature, though.

• 56:01Speaker 04

  I try. I try to put myself in other people's shoes. Like, is it my favorite thing? No. But like, it's like, you know, like, I think, I think like, a lot of women who get it are people that have a baby mama that is still in love with their husband, you know what I mean? And I think they get it. But I think if you don't have that, you don't get it. You know what I mean? So.

• 56:21Bunnie XO?

  Jay has two baby mamas. One I can get along with amazingly. She's a great woman. And the other one is a fucking nightmare.

• 56:28Speaker 04

  So there's just, it just depends. Like, it's just, you know, that's just life. You're gonna get on the some people and some people not. I mean, you know, and, and that doesn't mean that, you know, they're a bad person. It's just that, you know, it's not that it's not the vibe. And, and we've, you know, I've always, you know, the thing is same thing as you is like, I've always wanted to be friends with everybody because that's how I am. But it was like from the get go, it was immediately like made very clear to me that that was not, you know, that was not the vibe. So I was like, okay, cool. Um, you know, I know my place. Um, but also like this is my husband. So that was the hardest thing too, is like going through all that and having people be like, it's none of your business. And I'm like,

• 57:10Speaker 04

  how is this none of my business? This is literally my husband that I like worked really hard with to like get healthy and like, we're like so happy and just want to be like, just be able to be happy and have everyone stop making shows and TV movies and Hallmark and fucking whatever else, you know what I mean? And have people come on my page and tell me that like, you know, whatever, you know?

• 57:31Bunnie XO?

  Do you feel like you're not allowed to ever have an opinion too, whenever it comes to that?

• 57:35Speaker 04

  Yeah, I can't say shit. Everything. I'm always the bad guy. I'm probably gonna get hate for this.

• 57:39Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, I think you're being very honest and I think you're being very um, open and I think that's fair.

• 57:45Speaker 04

  Yeah, I mean,

• 57:45Bunnie XO?

  You're allowed to have feelings and not have to push them down and you haven't said anything that is, I, I think everything you've said is so like grown and mature.

• 57:54Speaker 04

  Yeah, I mean, I just, I get it. We're all hurting from something. We're all trying to live our lives and get along the best we can and that's all we can do. You know what I mean? You know, I'm not perfect. I've definitely, you know, I already struggle with my mental health and so I've said and done things where I'm like, God, Brittany, like, fucking think sometimes before you speak, you know, but what can you do?

• 58:16Bunnie XO?

  Nobody gives us a handbook on life, you know, and how we're supposed to react to certain things. And people don't realize when you're not in the spotlight and you're not getting hundreds of thousands of shit thrown at you every fucking day. Like you'll, you'll never understand it. The people that are trolling literally have zero followers. And I don't mean that to be to insult anybody, but you don't know what it feels like to live in shoes of people who are online and have to, you know, who have opened ourselves up to that. So,

• 58:44Speaker 04

  Yeah, I think it's frustrating to like see stories made up about you.

• 58:49Bunnie XO?

  Oh.

• 58:50Speaker 04

  Like that one's like, that one blows my mind. A really big gossip column online and the, they wrote something like when the documentary came out, like, oh, well, don't feel bad for Brittany because all she does is complain about her husband anyway. And I was like, what?

• 59:06Bunnie XO?

  You're like, when?

• 59:07Speaker 04

  And I wrote to the girl who runs the page because she published it. And the girl was like, oh, it's someone from your yoga class that sent this in. And I'm like, bitch, I don't do yoga.

• 59:17Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 59:17Speaker 04

  Like, I don't even walk fast.

• 59:19Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 59:19Speaker 04

  Like, let alone, I don't exercise. Like, I don't even fucking touch my toes. You know what I'm saying? Like,

• 59:25Bunnie XO?

  She's like, I am not limber.

• 59:26Speaker 04

  And I said to her, I said, I don't do yoga. I said, I don't even have a yoga class. I'd appreciate it if you took it down. And she didn't.

• 59:33Bunnie XO?

  You can't.

• 59:33Speaker 04

  They just wanna have fake shit out there.

• 59:35Bunnie XO?

  I've learned that lesson. I learned that lesson actually this month. It started last year when I started getting dragged on TikTok for having a podcast with people who come and tell their side of the story. The only reason people hate me is because of this podcast. Literally.

• 59:48Speaker 04

  Which is insane.

• 59:48Bunnie XO?

  It's wild, right? And this year, somebody, I, I didn't learn my lesson last year, so the universe sent me the same lesson this year with another bitch who fucking tried to like make, paint this picture of me being this terrible human. When I reached out to her, like, hey, girl, this is the truth. This is what's going on. If you do this, this is what's gonna happen. Like, I just try to keep it real and keep it G with everybody. Twisted my words, twisted screenshots, posted them, made a video. Her and this other girl tried, didn't, didn't put everything in there, though. They only put what fucking made their narrative look good. And I didn't respond. For once in my life, I was like, you know what?

• 1:00:23Speaker 04

  God bless.

• 1:00:23Bunnie XO?

  I don't give a fuck. Think what you want. People are gonna fucking make up whatever they want.

• 1:00:27Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:00:28Bunnie XO?

  You know, and it's like, you can't reason with those people because your narrative doesn't make them money or get them attention.

• 1:00:33Speaker 04

  No.

• 1:00:33Bunnie XO?

  So they want, they have to paint their own narrative.

• 1:00:35Speaker 04

  It's so crazy, dude, how people spin shit. And I didn't even hear anything about that. So this bitch can't even be that popular.

• 1:00:41Bunnie XO?

  Oh, no, she's not. Yeah.

• 1:00:42Speaker 04

  I never heard anything about it. That was like when the whole thing happened with Trisha Paytas, who, like, I don't have anything against Trisha Paytas. Um, I'm friends with Jason, who she was seeing at the time. And they dressed up as my husband and his ex for Halloween or a bunch of pictures or something. And then they tagged him. And in every picture.

• 1:01:04Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:04Speaker 04

  And my husband saw it and he wasn't sober at the time and he made like a rude comment.

• 1:01:10Bunnie XO?

  Oh.

• 1:01:10Speaker 04

  And then I did never said anything to her, but she had also on Twitter been like, why is Brittany Furlan with Tommy Lee? That's so weird. And then when I responded to her, she was like, oh, no, girl, I totally stan it. And I was like, okay. Anyway, so then I actually wrote her a DM and I think I still have them where I said I was so sorry about that. You know, he's struggling with alcoholism, whatever. I sent her a message. I'm pretty sure I probably still have them, but I was so nice and she was like, uh, uh, uh, I'm making a YouTube video about it and you're going like da, da, da, da, da and like

• 1:01:41Bunnie XO?

  Trisha did?

• 1:01:41Speaker 04

  Yeah, no matter how much I like was like nice. She was like, uh, uh, like da, da, da and I was like, okay. Like, cool. Well, I said my piece and you know, I apologize if we hurt you in any way, but ended up becoming a huge thing. And I'm just like, everybody just

• 1:01:55Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, it's just a thing for like, I, I'm not used to that. Like if we're gonna have a situation, let's fucking come to talk to each other like grown ass women and let's move on from it. Like I literally can't stand when everybody wants to go to the fucking internet.

• 1:02:09Speaker 04

  No, dude.

• 1:02:10Bunnie XO?

  There you don't have to fucking post every, is your life that boring that you have to just take screenshots that I fucking wrote and fucking post them online of me literally explaining a situation to you?

• 1:02:21Speaker 04

  I wish she would have posted what we wrote, but she didn't, of course. But anyway.

• 1:02:24Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, I was talking about my, my personal.

• 1:02:26Speaker 04

  Yeah, you're that person, of course. Yeah.

• 1:02:28Bunnie XO?

  But yeah, no, I get it.

• 1:02:29Speaker 04

  Honestly, like, I'm just like bygones be gone, bygones people grow, people change, you know, like I don't have any Yeah. Whatever. I don't want beef with anybody.

• 1:02:39Bunnie XO?

  You know, since she had her baby and is married and actually found like real happiness in her safe space.

• 1:02:44Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:02:44Bunnie XO?

  I feel like I've seen a lot of growth from her. I don't know her.

• 1:02:48Speaker 04

  She seems really happy.

• 1:02:50Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:02:50Speaker 04

  So that's great.

• 1:02:51Bunnie XO?

  And I think that makes a huge difference with how people treat other people.

• 1:02:54Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:02:55Bunnie XO?

  If you aren't happy in your life at that moment, and I think her and Jason had like a really fucked up relationship. I don't know the de- the details and I don't, I don't even care to get into it, but I think when you're going through that and you're just fucking hurting, you're just, your normal reaction is hurt people, hurt people.

• 1:03:10Speaker 04

  Yeah, and I know she struggles with her mental health. I mean, it was more on Jason, cause Jason and I have known each other forever.

• 1:03:16Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:03:16Speaker 04

  Like, you know, through comedy and like, I was just kinda like, really, Jason? Like, really? Like, like I don't deal with this enough? You know what I mean? Like, it's just exhausting. But then I also like, is a growing thing for me where I have to learn I can't control it.

• 1:03:27Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:03:28Speaker 04

  I just gotta let people do what they're gonna do, you know? I can't be mad at everybody that wants to fucking uh, whatever. I just don't like when people pretend to be my friend.

• 1:03:36Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:03:36Speaker 04

  And then they do that stuff. I'm just like, okay. Like, I'm fucking done, guys. Like, I don't know, like, what more you wanna fucking do?

• 1:03:45Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, you beat the dead horse.

• 1:03:46Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:03:47Bunnie XO?

  Can, can we move on to Tommy's bonzies?

• 1:03:50Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah, for sure. Oh my god, he loves bonsai trees. It saves his life.

• 1:03:55Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:03:56Speaker 04

  He's just so zen. I mean, he's probably got like two hundred.

• 1:03:59Speaker 06

  Oh my god.

• 1:04:00Speaker 04

  Yeah dude, he's, people are like, oh, tell him he's on cocaine. Like every time I see a post of him, they're like, oh, look at it. Like he's on drugs or whatever. I'm like, no, this dude is literally sitting there fucking like Mr. Miyagi, just fucking clipping his little trees.

• 1:04:11Speaker 06

  It probably helps his ADD. Do you do it with him? I know I asked you this earlier.

• 1:04:15Speaker 04

  Hell no. I am way too impatient. I mean, I do my jewelry.

• 1:04:19Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:04:19Speaker 04

  Like I'll go in my room and do my necklaces and hope he out there doing his bonsais. Or sometimes like I'll lay out in tan while he's bonsai-ing.

• 1:04:25Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:04:25Speaker 04

  And I will sometimes just like sit with him and talk to him while he does it. But you know, he is just like a different guy, you know, he's no drama. He's just very peaceful. He just wants to do his trees. He just wants to have a happy life. He doesn't want to deal with anything. He doesn't want to deal with anyone. He just wants to be peaceful, you know, it's just us and our dogs, our little wiener dogs, and we are so in love with them. And we just have our happy little.

• 1:04:48Speaker 06

  Your little safe space.

• 1:04:49Speaker 04

  Safe vibe, happy vibe. We cook dinner together every night. We sit and have dinner together every night. And you know, life is good, man. I'm so grateful. Like.

• 1:04:57Speaker 06

  I love it.

• 1:04:58Speaker 04

  I really am. And, and I'm so grateful for his sobriety and his commitment to his sobriety and his health.

• 1:05:04Speaker 06

  Level of intimacy is when you get sober together.

• 1:05:07Speaker 04

  Oh.

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• 1:06:07Speaker 04

  Yeah, I mean, I was already not, you know, I was already on the, I was already on that path.

• 1:06:12Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:06:12Speaker 04

  Having him also is amazing and you know, now he's gonna try to quit smoking.

• 1:06:18Bunnie XO?

  Wow, like cigarettes?

• 1:06:19Speaker 04

  Yeah, he's been smoking cigarettes his whole life.

• 1:06:22Bunnie XO?

  Wow.

• 1:06:23Speaker 04

  And he really doesn't want to anymore, you know, but it's like, I think when you're in.

• 1:06:26Bunnie XO?

  Acupuncture. My dad got off smoking marble reds by getting acupuncture where they put a wire in your ear. And anytime he would get a craving, he would hit this pressure point and it would take the craving away.

• 1:06:37Speaker 04

  Stop. That is amazing. So that's his next thing that he really wants to try to do, but you know, he's like, I'm not gonna, you know, rush it. Cause it's like the one thing he has that keeps him kinda, you know, he has like that addiction personality. And so he's gonna try, you know, and like, I would love that. Then he's gonna like literally live forever.

• 1:06:58Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, like I mean, he's Tommy Lee, he's gonna be here forever.

• 1:07:01Speaker 04

  Like, it's kinda crazy cause people are like, oh, his organs must be so fucked up and all this shit. But we went and did those body scans, right?

• 1:07:07Bunnie XO?

  Oh, with Doc Amen?

• 1:07:08Speaker 04

  No, no, no. I did the brain scan with Doc Amen.

• 1:07:10Bunnie XO?

  How do you feel like that was? Is it a scam?

• 1:07:12Speaker 04

  You know, I really like Dr. Amen. I don't really know the science behind it or what it sees. But it was almost like I sat with him and I kinda told him everything that I'd been through. And then he told me what I had. I think it would have been cooler if like I had the brain scan, didn't tell him anything. And then he told me, you know, a little bit the opposite.

• 1:07:33Bunnie XO?

  I was gonna do it, but then I read a bunch of reviews and you know, I'm not knocking it at all, but I just.

• 1:07:39Speaker 04

  Listen, I don't know. I think he's a nice guy. Um, and I think he does care about helping people. I don't know enough about the technology, but I did think it was cool cause it did show me my brain. But I wasn't sure exactly, you know, he explained like, you know, these parts lit up meant trauma and that kinda thing. But I'd already told him like I had trauma. So I was kinda not sure if it was.

• 1:08:00Bunnie XO?

  It's kinda like a psychic. When you go to a psychic and tell a psychic everything. And then they're like, oh, who's Mike? And you're like, I just told you about him.

• 1:08:08Speaker 04

  Dude, I gave you his last name too. You can't even remember it. What the fuck? Yeah. Yeah. So I mean, I don't know, but I do think he does really care about people and I do think that, you know, he tries to help people and so I always like love that. Um, so I don't know, but then we did do uh, full body scans and mine is like a mess and like I have a cyst in the middle of my brain. I have polycystic, I have PCOS, which is um, polycystic ovarian syndrome. So I have, do you have PCOS too Haley? Oh guys, you both do. Do you take metformin or nothing? Yeah, you need either. Metformin made me so sick. Made me so sick and so I just, I just barely eat. Have you ever had your hormones checked?

• 1:08:48Speaker 04

  Oh yeah. And so my, so I have technically don't really show PCOS on my hormones, but then they did my uh, MRI. They saw it everywhere. Yeah. So they did it. My, I, my ovaries both are full of cysts and you know, I've thought about getting a hysterectomy, but then that comes with its own menopause. And so I already have such anxiety that I was like, fuck, and then you can get a partial and it's like kinda complicated. But I have a bleeding disorder. So I'm like, God, what if I die on the table? Then it'll be not worth it. So I get paranoid. But anyway, so mine was a mess. His literally was perfect. Like I was like, nothing wrong with the liver, nothing wrong. I have cysts in my liver. I feel like you son of a bitch. I'm like this motherfucker. Cyst in my liver, cyst in my breasts, cyst in my ovaries. I'm so cysty.

• 1:09:32Speaker 04

  I have early onset spine disease, which is probably from my breasts. Where's this body scan? I wanna go get one done. So um, this is called Pernuvo. Okay. So it's like twenty five hundred dollars and you get a full body MRI and they tell you everything that's wrong with you. How long do they have to, do you have to stay in that? Just one hour and you watch Netflix. It's so close. They put Netflix. I know if you're claustrophobic, but, but it's open on both ends. Yeah. And there's a tech in there with you and you have a little thing in your hand that if you get uncomfortable, you squeeze it and I, cause I'm like that too. Yeah. This is it. Pernuvo. And you get a full report Wow. of everything. Like that literally from your head to your tippy toes. So they found everything in me. They,

• 1:10:12Speaker 04

  you know, the spine disease I had, um, I have uh, the cyst in my ovaries, a cyst in my breasts, a cyst in the middle of my brain. Um, God, I'm trying to think. I had fluid in my cul-de-sac. Any options for like healing this stuff? So I went to my doctor, who I love, Dr. M. Ronnie, and he basically told me like, You know, well, he put had me do uh no gluten, no dairy for like a year. And all my cysts went away. But but I love it too much to like do no gluten and no dairy like bitch I was eating like I was.

• 1:10:49Bunnie XO?

  I'm no sugar, no gluten, no dairy.

• 1:10:50Speaker 04

  How do you fucking eat dude?

• 1:10:52Bunnie XO?

  I eat the same, I'm like eat the same thing every day.

• 1:10:55Speaker 04

  That's it. And so we were on tour and I did it for a year and I had no cysts and I and I didn't feel any different though. That was the thing. I only had no cysts, but I didn't feel any better.

• 1:11:05Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:11:05Speaker 04

  And so I um on tour ended up being like fuck it, I'm just eating whatever I want again and all the cysts are back, but. I don't feel any different cysts or no cysts, you know, it's kind of weird. Like I still have really painful periods. I still have like really bad endo like, you know, so it kind of is what it is. And you know, my doctor's like, you don't really need to worry about it. It's like benign shit like he had my. Breast cyst checked, they're just cysts, you know, my liver cysts are just cysts. It's just cysts. So they're not gonna do anything. The only one I have to watch is like the one in my brain. If it grows, it can cause. Neurological issues like I need more of those.

• 1:11:41Speaker 04

  It's like already happening right now.

• 1:11:43Bunnie XO?

  Though you never know, it could like do the complete fucking opposite. At this point, like what do we have to lose? Let's roll the dice, right?

• 1:11:50Speaker 04

  I'm like just fucking eyes are be like.

• 1:11:53Speaker 04

  Are you okay?

• 1:11:57Speaker 04

  No, but apparently like that's the only thing I really have to look out for. And then the spine disease. So I try to wear. I tried it. My dad's always telling he's gonna yell at me. Put your shoulders back. So like my boobs are so heavy. They pull my spine forward.

• 1:12:10Bunnie XO?

  When I had my boobs done, that was the same way. My the implants were so heavy.

• 1:12:14Speaker 04

  You still have big boobs.

• 1:12:15Bunnie XO?

  Uh, these are my real ones. I had my implants.

• 1:12:17Speaker 04

  You're like a D still.

• 1:12:18Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, I had my implants taken out, but yeah, that's exactly. I would hunch over too. And I still do that now because I'm so used to having those. I had those fucking kazongas for like thirteen years. So. You got a nice rack.

• 1:12:29Speaker 04

  I'm a fucking thirty four triple D.

• 1:12:31Bunnie XO?

  They're nice.

• 1:12:32Speaker 04

  I'm gonna show you when we're done.

• 1:12:33Bunnie XO?

  I can't wait.

• 1:12:34Speaker 04

  They're crazy. I can't wait.

• 1:12:35Bunnie XO?

  They hurt.

• 1:12:36Speaker 04

  I mean, and then I thought about, I do, and I've thought about a breast reduction, but my husband's like, don't you dare. You're gonna have that crazy scar and like, they're so pretty.

• 1:12:44Bunnie XO?

  No, if not, if you go to a micro surgeon.

• 1:12:46Speaker 04

  Really?

• 1:12:46Bunnie XO?

  Mm-hmm. They'll be able to do it like, super, super thin.

• 1:12:49Speaker 04

  Really?

• 1:12:50Bunnie XO?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:12:50Speaker 04

  I always feel like I had one girlfriend of mine who she, they took the nipple off and then they took, and then they put it back on and it looks crazy.

• 1:12:56Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:12:57Speaker 04

  Looks like someone chewed on the nipples and sewed them back on, like, someone ate the pepperoni and then fucking put it back on. I'm like, what the fuck?

• 1:13:03Bunnie XO?

  It's like a kid's pizza.

• 1:13:05Speaker 04

  Yeah. I'm like, what is that? She had the beaut- those beautiful nipples and then now they look like they fucking.

• 1:13:10Bunnie XO?

  Damn it.

• 1:13:11Speaker 04

  Frankensteined her back together. I was like, ah!

• 1:13:13Bunnie XO?

  Oh, fuck, we hate that.

• 1:13:15Speaker 04

  Shit, dude, yeah, so, I don't know. I don't know what I'm gonna do. Yours look great.

• 1:13:19Bunnie XO?

  I love you.

• 1:13:19Speaker 04

  She had the explant.

• 1:13:20Bunnie XO?

  Yes, I did.

• 1:13:21Speaker 04

  That's great good for you, cause that causes its own issues.

• 1:13:23Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, well, my fucking, I had one, I had a lobster claw sized scar tissue, cause my implant folded. So, it was a whole thing, but it was because I was having such bad anxiety, like, I did everything I could to clean my body out and just to try to fucking heal, you know?

• 1:13:37Speaker 04

  And you look great.

• 1:13:38Bunnie XO?

  I love you.

• 1:13:39Speaker 04

  And you like, got good energy. You're good. Yeah, dude, you did a really good job. You walked in here and I'm like, I can tell, and she's like, I don't eat sugar. I'm like, how do you live? Like, I'm over here like, chugging my sugar ass, like, I'm like, I need it or I'm gonna start shaking, yeah.

• 1:13:52Bunnie XO?

  Oh, I appreciate you so much.

• 1:13:54Speaker 04

  That's crazy.

• 1:13:55Bunnie XO?

  Brittany, I can sit here and talk to you all night long. I feel bad, cause we did your podcast before this, and I mean, I could just literally sit here and just pick your brain all day long, but I'm really looking forward to us hanging out and chilling.

• 1:14:05Speaker 04

  Yeah, dude.

• 1:14:05Bunnie XO?

  Because I adore you. We gotta get Tommy and Jay together.

• 1:14:07Speaker 04

  Yeah, they would love each other, yeah.

• 1:14:09Bunnie XO?

  We have to get them together, because I have a feeling that Jay's so childlike too.

• 1:14:14Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:14:14Bunnie XO?

  They have the same fucking energy, so.

• 1:14:15Speaker 04

  They just play video games together?

• 1:14:17Bunnie XO?

  Literally.

• 1:14:17Speaker 04

  I'm dead, we're just sitting there like.

• 1:14:18Bunnie XO?

  Does Tommy play?

• 1:14:19Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:14:19Bunnie XO?

  Oh my god, I, we gotta link them on the game then.

• 1:14:21Speaker 04

  He plays the golf, like, top golf.

• 1:14:24Bunnie XO?

  Jay does the, what does he play? Call of Duty.

• 1:14:27Speaker 04

  Call of Duty, yeah, dude, they love that shit. Oh my god, these guys, but god bless them, they're, we're lucky to have them, they're good guys, you know?

• 1:14:34Bunnie XO?

  Well, they got good women too.

• 1:14:35Speaker 04

  Amen.

• 1:14:36Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, they got good pickers.

• 1:14:37Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:14:38Bunnie XO?

  Thank you for coming on the podcast. And come back every, anytime you want to check in, if you have anything you wanna promote or anything like that, you know?

• 1:14:46Speaker 04

  Yeah, I mean, we have our podcast, This Is The Worst, with me and Brittany Schmidt, and we talk about all the worst things that have ever happened to us and, and anyone else. You can write in and tell us your worst stories and. Um, I do the jewelry, which is just lovely jewelry on Instagram.

• 1:15:01Bunnie XO?

  Lovely with two E's.

• 1:15:02Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah. And then I'm doing stand up. I post dates just like randomly. I'm not like on tour right now, but I've been doing LA, so if you're in LA.

• 1:15:08Bunnie XO?

  Which I'm so proud of you for doing that, for getting back into it.

• 1:15:12Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's therapy for sure. Yeah. Aw, thanks for having me.

• 1:15:15Bunnie XO?

  Thank you so much.

• 1:15:16Speaker 04

  You're the best.

• 1:15:16Bunnie XO?

  Thank you guys for tuning in to another episode of Dumb Blonde. I'll see you guys next week. Bye.

• 1:15:25Speaker 11

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