Joey King Returns

Joey King (Practical Magic 2, The Act, The Kissing Booth) is an Emmy-nominated actor and producer. Joey returns to the Armchair Expert to discuss starting work at nine years old, her dad’s past as a professional arm wrestler, and losing and rediscovering her natural sense of joy. Joey and Dax talk about joining the beloved world of Practical Magic, working alongside Nicole Kidman and Sandra Bullock, and finding fulfillment in difficult performances without taking them home. Joey explains why thinking about yourself less can quiet insecurity, how difficult periods can create useful perspective, and why public perception matters less when your real life feels good. Thank you to our presenting partner Lilly. Lilly’s Foundayo™(orforglipron). Advertisement Disclaimer: Please see Indications and Safety Summary with Warnings for Foundayo™(orforglipron) at https://www.foundayo.lilly.com/risk Start your 2 month free trial today: https://youtube.com/premium . Terms Apply. Cancel Anytime. Check Allstate first for a quote that could save you hundreds: https://www.allstate.com/ Take printer ink off your to-do list with HP Smart Tank | http://www.hp.com/SmartTank See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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• 0:00Dax Shepard?

  Welcome, welcome, welcome to Armchair Expert. I'm Dax Shepard. I'm joined by Lily Padman.

• 0:04Speaker 01

  Hi.

• 0:04Dax Shepard?

  Hi. Today, we have a returning friend of ours who we're, we love her. We love her to death. Joey King. Uh, she is an actor.

• 0:12Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 0:12Dax Shepard?

  Uh, The Act, The Kissing Booth, three of those, I believe.

• 0:15Speaker 01

  Ooh.

• 0:15Dax Shepard?

  Bullet Train, Uglies, and the new movie that's slaying at open number one.

• 0:20Speaker 01

  Practical Magic 2, baby.

• 0:22Dax Shepard?

  Practical Magic 2 in theaters now. Check it out. Make that third weekend humongous.

• 0:28Speaker 01

  Do it.

• 0:29Dax Shepard?

  We love her. Please enjoy Joey King. We get support from Quince.

• 0:33Speaker 01

  I have to say, I am so ready for fall. I want sweaters. I've been craving a true crisp morning where I actually need a jacket. I can't wait.

• 0:42Dax Shepard?

  I'm fully there. The second it dips below 70, I'm like, this is my season. Give me the layers. Give me the boots. Give me a reason to wear something other than a t-shirt. And honestly, that's why I love Quince, because fall is when your wardrobe actually has to show up. And everything at Quince is 50 to 80% less than similar brands. We're talking 100% Mongolian cashmere sweaters, starting at $60.

• 1:05Speaker 01

  $60. $60 for cashmere that you'd expect from a luxury brand without the luxury price tag. It's amazing. Gets me every time. It really shouldn't be real, but it is because they go straight to the factories. They skip the middlemen and they just hand you the savings. The stuff isn't trendy. It's the kind of pieces you grab over and over because they work every time.

• 1:23Dax Shepard?

  The 100% Mongolian cashmere sweaters for me are it. When I look at Steve McQueen, this man owned a couple of sweaters he wore all the time and he looks iconic.

• 1:32Speaker 01

  It's a uniform.

• 1:33Dax Shepard?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:34Speaker 01

  And Quince isn't just about the clothes. They have hotel quality bedding, cookware, bath essentials, thoughtfully designed furniture. You can really go there and outfit your entire apartment or house. So if you're in need of any kind of fall refresh at home too, same quality, same attention to detail for every corner of your life.

• 1:51Dax Shepard?

  Find your next fall favorites at Quince. Download the Quince app for app exclusive offers or go to quince.com. Get free shipping on your order and 365 day returns. Now available in Canada and the UK too. And when Quince asks where you heard about them, let them know it was Armchair Expert. It's the best way to support the show. This episode is presented by YouTube Premium. YouTube was already great, but Premium supercharges it. If you like YouTube, you'll love Premium. Try YouTube Premium for two months free at youtube.com/premium. Trial eligibility varies. Terms apply. Cancel anytime. Now let's get into today's episode.

• 2:48Dax Shepard?

  Hi, don't I look summery?

• 2:50Speaker 02

  You do.

• 2:51Speaker 01

  Summery and cute. It's the vibe.

• 2:54Speaker 02

  You guys.

• 2:55Speaker 01

  How are you guys?

• 2:56Dax Shepard?

  Do you recall what you wore the last time you were here? You know.

• 2:59Speaker 02

  I do.

• 2:59Dax Shepard?

  You do?

• 3:00Speaker 02

  I know exactly what I was.

• 3:01Dax Shepard?

  Oh, tell me what you wore last time.

• 3:02Speaker 02

  I only remember things through actually what people wear. That's how I have like all core memories from when I was a kid too. I'm like, you were wearing a brown Juicy Couture sweatsuit.

• 3:09Speaker 01

  Oh my God. You had a braid.

• 3:11Speaker 02

  I had a braid and I had my Jordans on. I had a very long, white outfit. I was like, white pants, white lab coat vibe almost.

• 3:21Dax Shepard?

  Yeah, I cannot believe you remember.

• 3:23Speaker 02

  It was very.

• 3:23Dax Shepard?

  You remember that as she's describing.

• 3:25Speaker 02

  Skirt, like a huge yellow skirt and a yellow sweater on top. And you were wearing one of Brad's cashmere shirts.

• 3:31Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 3:32Dax Shepard?

  God's true. That's insane.

• 3:34Speaker 01

  Then we got really dressed up for you. You were saying, you were like, I just wanted to feel really cute today. And I was like, yes.

• 3:40Dax Shepard?

  Maybe because you had identified her as stylish.

• 3:42Speaker 02

  Yeah, you were.

• 3:43Speaker 01

  I identified you as stylish.

• 3:44Speaker 02

  Oh, ominous.

• 3:45Dax Shepard?

  Yes, yes.

• 3:46Speaker 01

  Like I dress for the girls I know will care or notice.

• 3:50Speaker 02

  But of course, today I look a little more girly.

• 3:53Speaker 01

  You look so cute.

• 3:55Dax Shepard?

  Historically girly.

• 3:56Speaker 02

  Yeah, today I look more.

• 3:57Dax Shepard?

  Trad wife.

• 3:58Speaker 02

  Thank you. Thank you so much. More witchy, I would say. I'm on theme with my press, I guess.

• 4:03Dax Shepard?

  That's the only young people word I know is trad wife.

• 4:06Speaker 01

  Yeah, you're overusing it.

• 4:08Dax Shepard?

  Yep.

• 4:08Speaker 02

  Wait, can I, can I ask, is it a young person term or is it just coming back around and it's not a young person term?

• 4:14Dax Shepard?

  Well, even if it had been traditional wife, which maybe is old, they definitely weren't saying trad wife in the eighties or 1900s where I'm from, and you just made it.

• 4:24Speaker 02

  I am also from the 1900s.

• 4:25Dax Shepard?

  Barely.

• 4:26Speaker 01

  Barely.

• 4:27Dax Shepard?

  Where, how many months were left before 2000?

• 4:29Speaker 01

  Five.

• 4:30Dax Shepard?

  Five months.

• 4:31Speaker 01

  Five whole months.

• 4:32Dax Shepard?

  Were you born in July?

• 4:33Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah. I just wanted to make sure.

• 4:35Speaker 01

  Great.

• 4:35Dax Shepard?

  July what?

• 4:36Speaker 02

  July 30th.

• 4:37Speaker 01

  I just had a birthday.

• 4:38Dax Shepard?

  Oh, congratulations.

• 4:40Speaker 01

  How old did we turn?

• 4:41Speaker 02

  27.

• 4:42Speaker 01

  Good for you.

• 4:42Dax Shepard?

  I do know you're 27. You're at peak. This is as good as your body will ever feel. You know that, right?

• 4:47Speaker 02

  I feel great.

• 4:48Speaker 01

  That's what they say.

• 4:49Speaker 02

  I wasn't feeling great last.

• 4:51Dax Shepard?

  You weren't.

• 4:52Speaker 02

  No, I feel like after 25, I was like, boo. And then 27 came around. I was like, I'm starting to feel better.

• 4:57Speaker 01

  Okay, good.

• 4:58Speaker 02

  25, frontal lobe fully developed. Hated it.

• 5:01Speaker 01

  Yeah, you knew too much.

• 5:03Speaker 02

  I was like, man, this sucks.

• 5:04Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 5:05Dax Shepard?

  Okay, can we go back to the dressing?

• 5:07Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 5:08Dax Shepard?

  So we just had Taryn Edgerton on. Have you ever met Taryn in real life?

• 5:13Speaker 02

  I think we've met very briefly during the award circuit stuff. Lovely guy, great actor.

• 5:17Dax Shepard?

  Well, he's a really good actor.

• 5:19Speaker 02

  He's awesome.

• 5:19Dax Shepard?

  But I think what's more exciting is he's so incredibly attractive in real life. You know how it is. You meet people on carpets.

• 5:27Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 5:27Dax Shepard?

  You see them on TV, you see them in real life. There's always some difference. It can be positive or negative or different.

• 5:34Speaker 02

  Totally.

• 5:35Dax Shepard?

  He's somebody who's already a fox in a bombshell.

• 5:39Speaker 02

  And then in person.

• 5:40Dax Shepard?

  I was like, how can you be this attractive? And Monica felt that way too.

• 5:43Speaker 02

  You and your man crushes.

• 5:45Dax Shepard?

  I love men.

• 5:45Speaker 02

  You have so many.

• 5:46Dax Shepard?

  So anyways, Monica was editing the episode. She calls me and she's like, I can't believe how fucking bad my hair looked in that episode. You didn't say anything. And then we got in this thing. I'm like, how would you have not done your hair for Taryn Edgerton? And she's like, I would never, but for the girls, and this is proof of that.

• 6:02Speaker 02

  You look so cute.

• 6:03Speaker 01

  I knew I'd see you. So I was like, I'm gonna wear my overalls.

• 6:07Speaker 02

  It's giving like August. It looks like you're gonna go to a flower field afterwards and.

• 6:12Speaker 01

  Thank you.

• 6:12Dax Shepard?

  That's exactly what she's doing.

• 6:13Speaker 02

  Have a little nibble of cheese and strawberries together.

• 6:16Speaker 01

  Delight. That's what I'm trying to give off. Delight.

• 6:18Speaker 02

  A fig.

• 6:19Dax Shepard?

  A fig.

• 6:20Speaker 02

  They are in season.

• 6:21Speaker 01

  They're in season.

• 6:22Speaker 02

  They are in season.

• 6:23Speaker 01

  You're going to the farmer's market, you're gonna see a lot of figs. No, I was full of regret. I was full of regret after that. I had my identity crisis.

• 6:30Speaker 02

  Did you really?

• 6:31Speaker 01

  Kind of. I was like, what? I was like, what am I doing?

• 6:35Speaker 02

  Yeah, what was the, walk me through like the internal dialogue.

• 6:38Dax Shepard?

  It's Taryn today. I guess I can just fucking, and then walked over here.

• 6:41Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 6:43Dax Shepard?

  Well, I'm trying to make it comedic.

• 6:44Speaker 02

  Why didn't you say anything to her?

• 6:46Speaker 01

  Thank you.

• 6:47Dax Shepard?

  I didn't think her hair looked bad. And even when she showed me the clip, I'm like, your hair looks great.

• 6:50Speaker 02

  This is a problem with when me and my husband go out, I won't be looking at his hair. And then he'll go to the restroom and be like, oh my God, how? Have you not said a word to me?

• 7:00Speaker 01

  Okay, and you just haven't noticed.

• 7:02Speaker 02

  No, I wasn't looking.

• 7:03Dax Shepard?

  But you know what he's wearing and you probably would have said something about his outfit?

• 7:06Speaker 02

  Yeah, but he's got good style. Like I think he's, looks great.

• 7:08Dax Shepard?

  You filed it as done. He's gorgeous.

• 7:10Speaker 02

  It's great. But every now and then I'll be like, oh shit, your hair does look crazy. My bad.

• 7:15Dax Shepard?

  Uh-huh.

• 7:15Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah. That's the opposite. It's come up on a few episodes lately. Dax has a friend who he was out to dinner with and he had three big nose hairs coming out of his nose.

• 7:28Dax Shepard?

  Really aggressive and really girthy.

• 7:30Speaker 02

  That's a good friend to say something.

• 7:32Speaker 01

  No, but we're not, yeah, we're not there.

• 7:34Dax Shepard?

  The story yet.

• 7:34Speaker 01

  So it was a double date. So the wives were there too.

• 7:38Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 7:38Speaker 01

  And Dax and Kristen noticed the hairs. They didn't say anything. Then they got in the car and they were like, how could that wife allow him to walk out the door like that?

• 7:46Speaker 02

  What the hell's wrong with her?

• 7:48Speaker 01

  But maybe she didn't notice.

• 7:50Dax Shepard?

  Okay, Joey.

• 7:51Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 7:52Dax Shepard?

  I said, she hates him. Why would she let him be out with, it's so obvious. She couldn't have missed it. They got divorced like three months later.

• 8:01Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 8:01Speaker 02

  You are so perceptive.

• 8:03Dax Shepard?

  Isn't the weirdest thing, right?

• 8:04Speaker 02

  Wait, wait, wait, wait. That is actually huge. This is huge news.

• 8:09Dax Shepard?

  It is, right?

• 8:10Speaker 02

  This is huge news for married couples.

• 8:11Speaker 01

  Yeah, it is.

• 8:12Speaker 02

  We need to bring awareness to this.

• 8:15Dax Shepard?

  If your husband has porcupine quills coming out of his nose at the guest.

• 8:18Speaker 02

  Being addressed. The moment he opens his eyes.

• 8:20Dax Shepard?

  Yes, go on, Jesus, let's get these out.

• 8:22Speaker 02

  Just let's.

• 8:23Speaker 01

  I just worry that maybe she was like, I love him for who he is. It doesn't matter.

• 8:27Speaker 02

  She saw the nose hairs and then she was like, you're served.

• 8:30Speaker 01

  She was so grossed out by that.

• 8:32Dax Shepard?

  Well, that's what she listed as the reason for the separation.

• 8:36Speaker 02

  Ever think about, you ever think she did bring it to his attention and he was like, I like the way I am. And she was like, this is too much.

• 8:43Speaker 01

  That's what I said.

• 8:44Dax Shepard?

  I don't think that, but it's feasible what you're saying. If they already hated each other. And she was like, you have no, yeah, fucking deal with it. You know, it could have gotten.

• 8:53Speaker 02

  I mean, yeah, I agree. I don't honestly think that way, but it could have been a piece of the puzzle. Not the puzzle as a whole.

• 9:01Dax Shepard?

  No, is that the full picture?

• 9:02Speaker 02

  People say that as an expression.

• 9:03Dax Shepard?

  It's a hugely popular saying.

• 9:05Speaker 02

  Puzzle as a whole. Just making up new expressions.

• 9:07Dax Shepard?

  I've started writing down, my wife has so many talents.

• 9:10Speaker 02

  I know.

• 9:11Dax Shepard?

  But she does not have the talent of the analogy. And I just have started a file in my phone. I'm like, I gotta start writing these downs. And the one that I wrote down on the way to the Savannah Bananas.

• 9:21Speaker 02

  Oh, that was awesome.

• 9:23Dax Shepard?

  Wasn't that incredible? I couldn't believe it.

• 9:26Speaker 02

  That was so cool.

• 9:27Dax Shepard?

  Me and the girls were like, how do we know that person?

• 9:29Speaker 02

  I was like, I can't believe you guys are like here right now. That was like five seconds ago.

• 9:31Dax Shepard?

  This is her on a phone call and she goes, look, sometimes a thousand paper cuts does sink the ship.

• 9:37Speaker 02

  Oh, my God.

• 9:38Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 9:38Dax Shepard?

  And she's on the phone.

• 9:39Speaker 02

  This sounds like me.

• 9:40Dax Shepard?

  Me and the kids are in the car and I let them drive and I look back and the girls are already laughing. And they're like, oh yeah, so many ships have been brought down by a thousand.

• 9:51Dax Shepard?

  This is steeped in history.

• 9:53Speaker 02

  This is so funny that you said this. This actually just came up last week because I too get a little confused on my analogies. And my husband was like, this is so sweet, but you never get them right. And I was like, oh, I didn't know.

• 10:09Dax Shepard?

  But it's charming. Can you think of one that you constantly muggle?

• 10:13Speaker 02

  Oh, man. What is that one? The two hands in my bush, like something in the feathers.

• 10:18Dax Shepard?

  Let's have some fun.

• 10:21Speaker 02

  What is that one?

• 10:23Dax Shepard?

  It's two in the pink.

• 10:24Speaker 01

  Oh, my God.

• 10:26Dax Shepard?

  That's what you're thinking of.

• 10:27Speaker 01

  No, it's a bird in the hand. Is that what you mean?

• 10:29Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah.

• 10:29Dax Shepard?

  A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

• 10:32Speaker 02

  That's so crazy.

• 10:33Dax Shepard?

  Do you know what it means?

• 10:35Speaker 01

  It's a bad one.

• 10:36Dax Shepard?

  Here's the issue. I think they're impossible to remember if you don't really understand what's being said. And they're so historic sometimes.

• 10:42Speaker 02

  Yeah, like they're so Victorian. Yeah.

• 10:45Dax Shepard?

  So it means that you have the choice of you have a bird in your hand, or you could put it down and grab your rifle and try to get, there's two in this bush. So maybe you could shoot both that are in the bush, but you've just gotten rid of the one you know you're gonna have. So you should never get rid of one in the hand for two in the bush, because you might not get the two in the bush.

• 11:03Speaker 02

  I want to go on Who Wants to be a Millionaire with you.

• 11:05Dax Shepard?

  Okay.

• 11:06Speaker 02

  Do you know like a lot of like random stuff like that? I mean, would you consider that random?

• 11:10Dax Shepard?

  Yeah.

• 11:10Speaker 01

  Yeah, but I don't know if I'd call that trivia. That's like knowledge, like, well, I guess it's all the same.

• 11:16Dax Shepard?

  What's the difference?

• 11:18Speaker 01

  That could be a question. What's the difference between knowledge and trivia?

• 11:20Speaker 02

  Nothing.

• 11:24Speaker 01

  What does a dime a dozen mean? I mean, I know what it means, but what does it come from?

• 11:30Speaker 02

  No, no, I don't know.

• 11:31Dax Shepard?

  I don't know what the origin is, but it makes sense to me.

• 11:35Speaker 01

  Okay, it doesn't make sense. May I say it a lot?

• 11:37Speaker 02

  Really wrapping, I almost said wrapping my head. See, there's nothing. I can't say anything. I just found out recently, I've always had prank call my whole life. I was watching The Wire and they were talking about a prank call that came in. And I was like, what the hell are they talking about?

• 11:51Speaker 01

  That could go either way though.

• 11:53Speaker 02

  I know, but I had never, and I looked it up. There is a difference.

• 11:55Dax Shepard?

  What's the difference?

• 11:57Speaker 02

  I don't remember. But I do remember that one of them is with intent of malice. And like, it's considered kind of like a crime. And then one is more.

• 12:08Dax Shepard?

  Hijinks.

• 12:09Speaker 02

  Yes, it's innocent, even if it's annoying, but one is like with malice. And I believe that's a crank call.

• 12:14Speaker 01

  That seems more cranky.

• 12:16Speaker 02

  For real.

• 12:16Dax Shepard?

  Back to a dime a dozen.

• 12:18Speaker 01

  Yes, please tell.

• 12:19Dax Shepard?

  So any item that you could buy 12 of for 10 cents, what that tells you is there's a massive amount of those things. So the supply is infinite and the demand is quite low. Because you can't buy shit, you can't buy 12 of anything for 10 cents. You can't even buy 12 pennies for 10 cents.

• 12:39Speaker 01

  That does clear it up. That does clear it up.

• 12:42Dax Shepard?

  So I think that's why you can or cannot remember them is if they make logical sense, then you remember them quite easily.

• 12:48Speaker 02

  Never knew that, because I just never knew that. And, but I always thought, see, I'm glad we're talking about this.

• 12:52Dax Shepard?

  Yeah, me too.

• 12:53Speaker 02

  Because dime a dozen, I'm confusing it with the one, I thought that meant like, oh, she's so gorgeous and special.

• 13:00Dax Shepard?

  That's a dime.

• 13:00Speaker 02

  She's a dime.

• 13:01Dax Shepard?

  Dime piece.

• 13:02Speaker 02

  It's just a dime. You just cut out the dozen.

• 13:04Dax Shepard?

  And you know why calling someone a dime makes sense?

• 13:07Speaker 02

  Because they're a 10.

• 13:08Dax Shepard?

  Yeah.

• 13:09Speaker 02

  Right.

• 13:09Dax Shepard?

  Guys, I gotta, I think you would have to cut this out. I don't even know if I can admit this, but I'm asking you.

• 13:14Speaker 02

  I can't wait.

• 13:14Dax Shepard?

  I don't think any of us will admit to this.

• 13:16Speaker 02

  Oh, my God, I can't wait.

• 13:18Dax Shepard?

  What are you doing with pennies? When they enter your life?

• 13:23Speaker 02

  Please.

• 13:24Speaker 01

  Ew, what are you doing? Why is this needing to be edited out? I'm nervous.

• 13:30Speaker 02

  What are you doing?

• 13:31Dax Shepard?

  America's gonna fucking skewer me for this, but my daughter found a penny somewhere. I was like, ooh, lucky penny. And then she carried it for a day or so. And then she just threw it on the counter in our house. And she's never ever gonna, that was it. She liked finding it. And so now it's on the counter. And I'm like, what are we gonna do with this penny? I guess I could get a jar. We could start collecting pennies. None of us are ever gonna go to a coin master and turn these into anything, right? So I'm literally going, what's gonna happen to this penny? I've either gotta find someone who wants a penny. The move would have been, I should have went outside and chucked it on the sidewalk. That would be the move.

• 14:06Speaker 02

  Or find a water fountain, make a wish.

• 14:08Speaker 01

  Exactly.

• 14:09Dax Shepard?

  Yeah, that would be great.

• 14:10Speaker 01

  A water feature.

• 14:11Speaker 02

  Yeah, somewhere in LA.

• 14:13Dax Shepard?

  The second I can admit to myself, this item will never be used in our lives.

• 14:17Speaker 02

  You get rid of it.

• 14:18Dax Shepard?

  Get it the fuck out of here. I don't want to be stressed out at every time I look at it like, God, I should get rid of it. But you can't get rid of it because it has a value. I don't play the game. My life's fucking short. My wife will be like, oh, this accidental six pack of glue we bought that we don't need and we never use. Let's put it in the supply closet. I'm like, why? So it'll sit there for life and then our kids will have to fucking throw it away. Someone's gonna have to throw this shit away.

• 14:38Speaker 02

  Yeah, but it certainly won't be me.

• 14:41Dax Shepard?

  So what do you do with one penny?

• 14:43Speaker 02

  Can you tell us what you did with it?

• 14:44Speaker 01

  I know what he did. He threw it in the garbage.

• 14:46Dax Shepard?

  Threw it away.

• 14:47Speaker 02

  Well, that's not, well.

• 14:48Speaker 01

  It's not what I thought.

• 14:50Speaker 02

  Is it really?

• 14:50Dax Shepard?

  Throwing money away?

• 14:52Speaker 01

  It is being discontinued.

• 14:53Dax Shepard?

  As it should.

• 14:54Speaker 02

  It's like Pluto. It's like no one.

• 14:56Speaker 01

  It did start, this conversation started though, the way you started this, it sounded like you put them up your butt.

• 15:04Dax Shepard?

  Oh, that's why you guys both were like, what did you do?

• 15:06Speaker 02

  He was licking them.

• 15:08Dax Shepard?

  Oh.

• 15:08Speaker 01

  Swallowing up the butt.

• 15:10Dax Shepard?

  I used to do that.

• 15:12Speaker 02

  Which one?

• 15:13Dax Shepard?

  The licking, a version of the licking.

• 15:14Speaker 02

  Clarify. You put two hands in your bush and held a penny?

• 15:17Dax Shepard?

  That's right. Yeah, that's right.

• 15:19Speaker 02

  Put a couple pennies in your bush?

• 15:21Dax Shepard?

  There was, I don't know if it's a wives tale, but back when I was an alcoholic, and unfortunately, and this is shameful and sinful, but I did, I drove drunk often. And one wives tale was that if you put pennies under your tongue, the breathalyzer would be tripped up in some weird way. So I regularly was driving through LA at 2:30 in the morning with like three or four pennies under my tongue, just in case I got pulled over. Yes. A little boy piggy bank.

• 15:44Speaker 02

  Wait, this is actually such a crazy story. So then, did you get pulled over or no?

• 15:49Dax Shepard?

  I never ever had to take a breathalyzer test.

• 15:51Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 15:52Dax Shepard?

  Which is insanely lucky. I deserved DUIs.

• 15:55Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah. That must have been very filthy.

• 15:59Speaker 01

  Yes, that's disgusting.

• 16:01Speaker 02

  That must have been super filthy.

• 16:03Speaker 01

  You probably got some STIs via those pennies.

• 16:07Dax Shepard?

  Sucking transmitted infection?

• 16:09Speaker 01

  If you got an STI and you were in a relationship, you could say, well, oh, it was just because I was eating all those pennies. It wasn't because I was doing anything bad.

• 16:17Dax Shepard?

  These herpes.

• 16:19Speaker 02

  Yeah, I was just chewing on some pennies. You know, there is that thing called pica, right?

• 16:24Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 16:24Speaker 02

  Where people have like TLC's, um, My Strange Addiction. When they're eating couch cushions and detergent.

• 16:32Dax Shepard?

  Did you watch a lot of those? Because I watched a lot.

• 16:33Speaker 02

  HGTV and TLC were my favorite networks growing up. Oh, my God. So nice, so fun, so comforting. My strange addiction was, and I get it. I really understand.

• 16:42Dax Shepard?

  And what was your favorite thing you saw someone eat? Because I certainly know what mine was.

• 16:47Speaker 02

  Oh, my God, please.

• 16:48Dax Shepard?

  Well, there's two. I have two. This woman, and this one is so sad.

• 16:52Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 16:53Dax Shepard?

  She was slowly eating the cremated remains of her mother.

• 16:58Speaker 01

  Stop.

• 16:58Speaker 02

  I remember this.

• 16:59Dax Shepard?

  Do you remember that? And she was like panicked because she was running out of the remains.

• 17:07Dax Shepard?

  Like if I were her husband, what I would do is I would like.

• 17:09Speaker 01

  She had a husband?

• 17:10Dax Shepard?

  I would cremate.

• 17:10Speaker 01

  I don't even have a husband.

• 17:11Dax Shepard?

  If I were her husband, I would have cremated a raccoon and then just put a little of the dust in so that she never ran out.

• 17:22Dax Shepard?

  What am I gonna get my hands on? I can't really cremate a human.

• 17:25Speaker 02

  No, you can't.

• 17:26Dax Shepard?

  Yeah, but I could cremate like a pet.

• 17:28Speaker 02

  Wait a minute. I literally forgot about this.

• 17:30Dax Shepard?

  And she would dip her finger in your, and she had a bat.

• 17:33Speaker 02

  Like I genuinely.

• 17:35Dax Shepard?

  Exactly like.

• 17:35Speaker 02

  I genuinely just got very nauseous thinking about it.

• 17:39Speaker 01

  Horrifying.

• 17:41Speaker 02

  Like fun dip, you said?

• 17:47Speaker 02

  Wait, what else was?

• 17:48Dax Shepard?

  The one that drove me nuts, just because for me it would be the worst, is there was a woman, by the way, really skewed female, if you recall, Pika.

• 17:57Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 17:57Dax Shepard?

  Pika. There was no dudes.

• 17:59Speaker 02

  No, that's not true.

• 18:00Dax Shepard?

  Oh, okay. Yeah, remind me, please.

• 18:02Speaker 02

  Well, there was a guy that was addicted to making out with his car.

• 18:05Dax Shepard?

  Yes. Well, the dudes are doing a lot of sexual stuff. I'm not saying they're not on that show.

• 18:08Speaker 02

  Sexual eating.

• 18:09Dax Shepard?

  But Pika or Pika, whatever you call it.

• 18:11Speaker 02

  No, you're right. I think a lot of that starts sometimes with a pregnancy hormone. Or, I don't know. My mom had a craving of chalk, so she ate a lot of Altoids when she was pregnant with me.

• 18:20Speaker 01

  The texture, I guess.

• 18:21Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's like chalky. It's kind of, I know. What other one?

• 18:24Dax Shepard?

  Well, the one that drove me nuts, because it's my most hated thing, is there was a woman who hates sand. She loved grinding sand in her teeth. And that's like, once in a blue moon, you're on a beach or something, you're eating, and you get a grain of sand on your teeth. And you, like, a grain of sand ruins your whole day.

• 18:40Speaker 02

  And then you feel like you're, like, chipping a tooth on a grain of, because it's, it's hard.

• 18:44Dax Shepard?

  You think a piece of your tooth has broken off. That's what it kind of feels like.

• 18:48Speaker 02

  Or if you have, like, bonding, you're like, oh, no, something came loose.

• 18:51Speaker 01

  Uh, bonding, ban of my existence.

• 18:54Dax Shepard?

  Okay, this is not stay on. Such a non sequitur, but I was with two of my oldest friends in Nashville a couple of weeks ago, and they reminded me of this story. I just want to tell it to you. I was probably 23 when this happened, and I used to work for General Motors.

• 19:04Speaker 02

  Can I put my finger on it?

• 19:05Dax Shepard?

  Absolutely. You can do whatever you want. The Camaro had won, like, Car of the Year by Motor Trend, right? So there's a big event at this Detroit Athletic Club in Detroit, and the car's on display, and then they go inside, and there's this huge event. My job was to get that Camaro to the event and prep it, make sure it looked shiny, and then I had to sit there all day long next to the car in case it needed to be touched up. I was in my twenties, I was probably hungover. It didn't occur to me that I should bring some food. So I'm there for, like,

• 19:29Speaker 01

  This story's horrible.

• 19:30Dax Shepard?

  Eight hours.

• 19:31Speaker 02

  Oh, no, I'm so scared.

• 19:32Dax Shepard?

  I'm there for eight hours, and I'm so hungry. It's insane. I'm just sitting on the ground next to a car in an area of Detroit where there's nothing. And I'm there for hours and I'm hungry, and then all of a sudden, like, a miracle, a guy walks by pushing a hot dog cart. And I need to tell you, it makes no sense, because Detroit's signature food is Coney Dogs. There's one on every corner. There's no hot dog carts. This is such an anomaly. It was, oh, my God. I'm so excited. I run up to the dude. I can't, I have two hot dogs. So I get the two hot dogs. He cruises away. I'm probably halfway through this one hot dog. Can you handle, do you think you'll be able to handle this?

• 20:10Speaker 02

  I know, I'm nervous. You know what? I'm excited to know what you're gonna say.

• 20:14Dax Shepard?

  I knew we'd be good hang partners. We tried, it never worked out, but we'll still try it.

• 20:18Speaker 02

  I actually want to circle back to that.

• 20:19Dax Shepard?

  Yes.

• 20:20Speaker 02

  Go ahead.

• 20:20Dax Shepard?

  Okay.

• 20:21Speaker 02

  I'm circling back.

• 20:21Speaker 01

  Pinning that.

• 20:22Speaker 02

  Pinning that.

• 20:22Dax Shepard?

  So I take a bite out of this hot dog, and if you're a listener that's queasy, you really need to fast forward, like, 30 seconds. I bite down, and I go, oh, fuck. Like, I know immediately what it is, because nothing feels like tooth enamel. Like, enamel's enamel. I go, and I go, and I reach it, and I pull out, and there is an entire pig tooth with the root.

• 20:49Speaker 01

  What do you mean?

• 20:50Dax Shepard?

  Joey, no, that's the most important part.

• 20:53Speaker 02

  I'm so sorry. What do you mean?

• 20:55Speaker 01

  A pig?

• 20:55Dax Shepard?

  Well, because I'm eating a hot dog. It was that, the kind of sharp pig tooth, the incisor.

• 21:00Speaker 02

  Like a tusk vibes.

• 21:01Dax Shepard?

  Yes, tusk vibes, big, and then the whole fucking root. So it's fucking yellow in the end, and then the root's white.

• 21:07Speaker 01

  We don't need the colors. We don't need the colors.

• 21:09Dax Shepard?

  You do, because you've got to understand, this was the single worst moment I'd ever experienced sensorially, where I went, oh, like, oh. Unimaginably terrible.

• 21:18Speaker 01

  So horrifying.

• 21:19Speaker 02

  My.

• 21:20Dax Shepard?

  And then I'm like, how did this get into the hot dog? They grind everything.

• 21:24Speaker 02

  That's a part. Did you chase this man fucking down?

• 21:26Dax Shepard?

  No, no, I had to sit by the car. I couldn't leave my post.

• 21:30Speaker 02

  What if it needed a quick little?

• 21:32Dax Shepard?

  Yeah, there was a smudge on the window.

• 21:34Speaker 02

  That is so horrific. I'm so, so, so, so sorry this happened to you. No one in there, and the whole world can top you on this, but we've all had a moment of, like,

• 21:44Dax Shepard?

  Can you think of one?

• 21:45Speaker 02

  Such, I have a moment where I was thinking about, my sister lost a tooth in the morning while she was, like, drinking cranberry juice in her brown Juicy Couture sweatsuit.

• 21:53Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 21:53Speaker 02

  And it fell out, and she, like, almost swallowed it, and she, like, had to, like, cough it back up. It was like a half vomit situation to get the tooth.

• 22:01Speaker 01

  A lot going on.

• 22:02Speaker 02

  It's gross.

• 22:02Dax Shepard?

  And you witnessed the whole thing?

• 22:04Speaker 02

  Yeah, I was at the breakfast table, looking at my multiple choice, like, equations before I went to school.

• 22:09Speaker 01

  Classic.

• 22:10Speaker 02

  I know, I was doing my flashcards.

• 22:11Dax Shepard?

  And she yacked the tooth out, basically.

• 22:12Speaker 02

  And she was like, ah, ah, ah. Sorry about that noise. So sorry about that noise.

• 22:16Speaker 01

  Now, that's, you're an actor.

• 22:18Speaker 02

  Warning, that noise sucks. Okay, wait, I want to circle back to our hangs. Speaking of gross foods, we were supposed to hang.

• 22:24Dax Shepard?

  We interviewed you two years ago, and we tried a few times.

• 22:27Speaker 02

  But this is what my biggest haunt of my life, not of my life, but my biggest, my biggest haunt is that the last time we canceled, I was like, this is so absurd, they're gonna think we're lying.

• 22:40Dax Shepard?

  I can't even remember what the reasoning was.

• 22:41Speaker 02

  My husband gave himself salmonella.

• 22:44Dax Shepard?

  Oh, he gave himself salmonella?

• 22:46Speaker 02

  Do you remember that?

• 22:47Dax Shepard?

  No.

• 22:47Speaker 02

  But that sounds like an excuse.

• 22:49Dax Shepard?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 22:50Speaker 02

  But he was sick for 10 days.

• 22:52Dax Shepard?

  Well, how did he give it to himself?

• 22:54Speaker 02

  He made chicken, and it was just.

• 22:56Dax Shepard?

  He was impatient.

• 22:57Speaker 02

  It was moist and juicy, but it was a little bit in the middle, perhaps, pink.

• 23:04Speaker 01

  And you didn't eat it. You don't eat meat.

• 23:06Speaker 02

  I do eat meat. I love it.

• 23:08Speaker 01

  And you didn't eat that chicken?

• 23:09Speaker 02

  I did not eat the parts of the chicken.

• 23:12Speaker 01

  You knew you saw.

• 23:14Speaker 02

  I said, this looks a little pink, and he goes, I'll put it back in for a little bit, and he did. And then he took it out, and then we were eating it, and I was like, it feels a little bit pink, but he knows better. He made it, he was with the chicken, he was looking at it, he was touching it, he was bailing it.

• 23:29Speaker 01

  Yeah, he's in there.

• 23:30Speaker 02

  And then that night, it was like the day before we were supposed to hang out, we were supposed to get dinner the next night, I think. And then he, like, woke up in the middle of the night, and he was like, something is very wrong with me. And I was like, oh, no. And then I was like, he'll feel better by tomorrow night. And it was 10 days.

• 23:44Speaker 01

  Tiring.

• 23:45Speaker 02

  Of.

• 23:46Dax Shepard?

  Everything.

• 23:47Speaker 01

  Okay, now, do you think instead he could have had cyclospora?

• 23:50Dax Shepard?

  This was a year and a half ago.

• 23:51Speaker 01

  It happens every year.

• 23:52Speaker 02

  Wait, what cyclospora?

• 23:54Speaker 01

  Cyclospora.

• 23:54Dax Shepard?

  That's the lettuce thing that's been going around.

• 23:56Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's offended by cyclospora. You kind of don't like that people are talking about it, right?

• 24:01Dax Shepard?

  Oh, no, I don't.

• 24:01Speaker 01

  It worries you?

• 24:02Dax Shepard?

  No.

• 24:02Speaker 02

  What, wait, are you afraid of it, or you just think it's a little?

• 24:04Speaker 01

  He's not, he's the opposite of afraid.

• 24:06Dax Shepard?

  I was at a salad bar.

• 24:07Speaker 02

  I'm the opposite of afraid of it, too. I am so not.

• 24:10Dax Shepard?

  I don't have time to worry about it.

• 24:11Speaker 02

  We're in Southern California. I don't think it's affected SoCal yet.

• 24:14Speaker 01

  When? During this whole thing.

• 24:17Speaker 02

  This one?

• 24:17Speaker 01

  Yes, this one.

• 24:18Speaker 02

  Have you been traveling?

• 24:19Dax Shepard?

  Yes.

• 24:20Speaker 01

  I was traveling in Europe, though. It's not in Europe.

• 24:23Speaker 02

  Okay, Midwest?

• 24:25Speaker 01

  No, I didn't make any trips to the Midwest.

• 24:27Dax Shepard?

  You were in New York.

• 24:27Speaker 01

  After.

• 24:28Dax Shepard?

  Oh.

• 24:29Speaker 02

  I've been treating that thing like it doesn't exist.

• 24:31Speaker 01

  Wow, good for you.

• 24:32Dax Shepard?

  That's the move.

• 24:33Speaker 02

  But I normally, I'm so afraid of foodborne illnesses, because I have been so brutally sick in my life with foodborne illness. But this one, I was just like, right?

• 24:43Speaker 01

  I had a pair of.

• 24:43Speaker 02

  Such a dramatic thing to say, foodborne illness, food poisoning. I had such bad food poisoning back in 2023. I will never forget it.

• 24:50Speaker 01

  What'd you eat?

• 24:51Speaker 02

  I went to a Michelin star restaurant. I think I talked about this, maybe with you guys, maybe not, but it was really sad. It was like a really amazing meal. I have all the pictures of that meal in my hidden folder in my camera roll, because I can't look at them.

• 25:04Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 25:04Speaker 02

  But I don't want to delete them, because it was a special meal.

• 25:07Dax Shepard?

  It's like the penny.

• 25:08Speaker 02

  I was just gonna.

• 25:08Dax Shepard?

  Let me have your phone. I'll clean this up. I don't give a shit. Who's that?

• 25:11Speaker 02

  Like, it was a really special memory, but I can't look at the food without feeling so gross. That night, it was happening mouth and, mouth and bum. I genuinely thought I was, like, gonna die.

• 25:21Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 25:21Dax Shepard?

  I've had that several times.

• 25:22Speaker 02

  And I was hoping I would, because it was so bad. I was so terrified of eating things after that, especially if, like, it was seafood, lettuces, or anything. But, you know, the brain and the body forget. And now I'm like, whatever.

• 25:35Dax Shepard?

  Well, time heals all.

• 25:36Speaker 02

  Exactly. Time heals all.

• 25:38Dax Shepard?

  In September, I will have not had a drink in 22 years, and I have never even gotten close, right?

• 25:43Speaker 02

  Congratulations.

• 25:44Dax Shepard?

  I'm not even bragging about that. I just want you to know, in 22 years, I've never been tempted to drink. The only time I was like, I may have to drink. I've been on a USO tour, I was eating all the military food for eight days, then we flew out of Kuwait, the first-class lounge, there's a beautiful buffet. I went nuts. My friends were like, you're getting real bold with the Kuwaiti buffet. I was like, what are you talking about? Don't be racist.

• 26:08Speaker 01

  What are you, we did not say that.

• 26:11Dax Shepard?

  I did, to be funny.

• 26:12Speaker 01

  You did?

• 26:12Dax Shepard?

  Yeah, to be funny. Like, stop being racist. Get on the airplane, fucking during taxiing. I'm like, I have a tiny, like, I'm gonna let a bubble out.

• 26:22Speaker 02

  Like a burp?

• 26:22Dax Shepard?

  You ever, no, the bottom, bottom.

• 26:25Speaker 02

  Oh, bubble? Like a fart?

• 26:26Dax Shepard?

  Yeah, but, but I'm gonna let first a bubble. I'm gonna let a micron out first.

• 26:30Speaker 02

  I know exactly what you mean. Come on, now.

• 26:33Dax Shepard?

  I knew you would.

• 26:33Speaker 02

  You have to, like, a little, like, you know, the ones where, like, they almost disappear in your cheek, and it's like, pff.

• 26:38Dax Shepard?

  Yeah. I think of it as like a bubble this big that comes out. And I know that I let a bubble this big out. And that little bubble told me you're dead. You're in so much trouble. And I was in so much trouble. So then that was a six or eight hour flight to Germany. Then there was a six hour flight to New York.

• 26:58Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 26:58Dax Shepard?

  Both ways, the whole ride. Then get on the plane in New York to fly to LA. I got another five and a half hours. And when I sat down on the plane for that five and a half hours, I was in so much pain and agony. I didn't know how I was gonna get through the five hour flight.

• 27:13Speaker 02

  I didn't know how you got it through any of them.

• 27:15Dax Shepard?

  I might have to have a diet to like exist.

• 27:19Speaker 02

  Oh, my God.

• 27:20Dax Shepard?

  That's the only time I thought I might have to, for like medical reasons, have a drink or something.

• 27:25Speaker 02

  That is crazy that that was like your only tempting moment. But I know the moment before you get food poisoning, that is a, it's a harrowing time.

• 27:35Dax Shepard?

  You know.

• 27:36Speaker 02

  After my big meal in Barcelona, I'm eating this beautiful meal. I'm on FaceTime with my friend and I'm like, I just had a gorgeous dinner. My goodness, it was amazing. I am so full.

• 27:47Speaker 01

  Oh, yes, yes, yes.

• 27:49Dax Shepard?

  Yeah. It starts with a really full feeling. You're right.

• 27:51Speaker 02

  I was like, God, I'm full.

• 27:54Speaker 01

  I'm so sorry that this episode is.

• 27:56Speaker 02

  We've really gone down a rabbit hole.

• 27:58Speaker 01

  Everyone who is.

• 27:59Dax Shepard?

  Is still with us.

• 28:00Speaker 01

  This is a problem for a lot of people to hear.

• 28:02Dax Shepard?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 28:02Speaker 02

  I know. And we started with Pika and eating someone's mom.

• 28:06Speaker 01

  Yeah, we did.

• 28:08Dax Shepard?

  That's how we got here, I think.

• 28:09Speaker 02

  I forgot about that.

• 28:10Dax Shepard?

  The other unique thing about food poisoning, because again. Well, no, no, this isn't gonna be gross.

• 28:14Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 28:15Dax Shepard?

  Just, I've gotten it so many times, because as we discussed, I didn't care about that cycle spor. I don't care. I'll eat anything. I've had it so bad a few times. One time in a hotel in Palm Springs, I was there riding by myself and I got it at a Thai restaurant. Don't be racist.

• 28:27Speaker 02

  All of it, I know.

• 28:28Dax Shepard?

  Well, it just shows I'm not racist. I'm not eating any Caucasian food, ever.

• 28:32Speaker 02

  What do you describe as Caucasian food?

• 28:34Speaker 01

  I know.

• 28:36Speaker 02

  Beans on toast, yeah.

• 28:39Dax Shepard?

  I think I strike it from the record. Okay.

• 28:40Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 28:41Dax Shepard?

  There's something about food poisoning, like on that second day or whatever, if it's that bad, where you feel a loneliness. Can you relate? Especially if you were in Spain.

• 28:50Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 28:50Dax Shepard?

  I feel so lonely. It's like the loneliest I've ever felt.

• 28:54Speaker 02

  Is it because you're like, am I ever gonna be normal again?

• 28:57Dax Shepard?

  Am I ever gonna be normal? And I'm so alone in this experience and I don't want anyone around.

• 29:01Speaker 02

  Oh, my God, you don't want anyone around.

• 29:03Dax Shepard?

  I don't want help.

• 29:04Speaker 02

  Get the fuck away from me.

• 29:06Dax Shepard?

  Get out of.

• 29:06Speaker 02

  Steven was with me when I was.

• 29:08Speaker 01

  Oh, that's nice. Do you wanna take care of you?

• 29:10Speaker 02

  Yeah, but good God, nothing would have made it worse than having someone next to me. So I was like, go in the other room.

• 29:17Dax Shepard?

  Check into another hotel.

• 29:19Speaker 02

  And he didn't get it. We ate the same thing. He didn't get it.

• 29:21Speaker 01

  That's weird.

• 29:22Speaker 02

  What is a guy to do? I'm sick for a long time and I said, leave me alone. I hear the theme song of Seinfeld turn on.

• 29:30Speaker 02

  And it was very, the volume was high. And I was in no place to hear. And I was like, turn that down.

• 29:37Dax Shepard?

  Your favorite song would sound terrible when you're in that state.

• 29:40Speaker 01

  Oh, God, horrible.

• 29:42Speaker 02

  I know. Should we move on?

• 29:44Dax Shepard?

  Yes, we're going to.

• 29:45Speaker 02

  I'm so sorry.

• 29:45Speaker 01

  We're gonna go to the thing that.

• 29:46Speaker 02

  This is great.

• 29:46Dax Shepard?

  I can't believe I didn't discover this the last time we spoke.

• 29:51Speaker 02

  Discover what?

• 29:52Dax Shepard?

  This is maybe my favorite thing I've learned about you is that Terry King, your father, was a competitive arm wrestler in the eighties.

• 30:02Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 30:03Dax Shepard?

  In 1987, in his weight class, won a championship and was a technical advisor on Over the Top. Is that part true?

• 30:13Speaker 02

  So I actually didn't know about this 87 championship. I have pictures of my dad from that time.

• 30:17Dax Shepard?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 30:18Speaker 02

  But he moved to California from Arkansas when he was 17 to become a stunt man. And it never happened for him, but he did do one job. And that one job was Sylvester Stallone stunt double in Over the Top.

• 30:31Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 30:32Speaker 02

  Isn't that crazy? There's a picture.

• 30:33Dax Shepard?

  Is that him on the right? No.

• 30:35Speaker 02

  On the left. No, I'm kidding. That is, no, neither of the, is this an AI image?

• 30:40Dax Shepard?

  No.

• 30:41Speaker 01

  Okay, Rob, this is a wrong image.

• 30:42Dax Shepard?

  It's me taking a photograph off of the computer to send to Rob. I was searching everywhere for a picture of Terry King in this era arm wrestling. And I thought, oh, if he's the 87 champ, there'll be photos of that.

• 30:53Speaker 02

  It's a pretty wild story. It's like to move here from Arkansas and he wound up becoming an electrician, basically, for the Department of Water and Power for 45 years. That's what my dad's career was. But before that, yeah, he was a professional arm wrestler.

• 31:07Dax Shepard?

  Does he have enormous pipes? Because some of these guys, they don't, and yet they're so strong.

• 31:11Speaker 02

  No, my dad used to, I mean, he's thinner now and everything, but he used to have, his forearms were like the same size as his biceps.

• 31:18Dax Shepard?

  Yes.

• 31:18Speaker 02

  And my dad never went to the gym. Like, it was just kinda like.

• 31:22Speaker 01

  Genetic.

• 31:23Speaker 02

  He was just kind of a muscular dude.

• 31:24Dax Shepard?

  Yeah.

• 31:25Speaker 02

  And it's like him and my mom met, my mom worked at Seafood Broiler. The story ends, they're divorced, thank God, but that's good.

• 31:31Dax Shepard?

  I didn't know that.

• 31:32Speaker 02

  That's good. It's a good thing.

• 31:33Speaker 01

  We're happy about that.

• 31:33Speaker 02

  We're thrilled. Life became better. Divorce can be beautiful things sometimes.

• 31:37Dax Shepard?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 31:37Speaker 02

  But they met when she was working at Seafood Broiler. My dad came in as a customer. She was the real estate agent at the time, like starting to be a real estate agent. And then they like met and they.

• 31:47Speaker 01

  Started having me and my sisters.

• 31:50Speaker 03

  Stay tuned for more Armchair Expert, if you dare.

• 31:55Dax Shepard?

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• 32:38Dax Shepard?

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• 32:52Speaker 01

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• 32:53Dax Shepard?

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• 33:35Dax Shepard?

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• 34:20Dax Shepard?

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• 35:06Dax Shepard?

  So we talk a lot on this show about how the world is different now than when we were growing up. And one of the biggest differences is obviously social media. And I think a lot of people wonder, okay, what's actually being done to make it safer for teenagers?

• 35:18Speaker 01

  Which is a fair question.

• 35:19Dax Shepard?

  Yeah, so Instagram has got something called teen accounts, and they come with automatic protections built in by default. So anyone between 13 and 17 is automatically placed into this experience. They get age-appropriate content settings, contact limits, so that by default, only people they're already connected to can message them. And time management tools, daily time limit reminders, and also sleep mode that mutes notifications from 10 PM to 7 AM.

• 35:45Speaker 01

  Sleep mode is genius.

• 35:47Dax Shepard?

  Right? And here's the thing, for anyone under 16, a parent has to give permission to change any of those settings to be less strict. The guardrails are on, and Instagram keeps building new safety features to create age-appropriate experiences for teens.

• 36:02Speaker 01

  I am really glad Instagram's helping to give parents peace of mind with teen accounts.

• 36:06Dax Shepard?

  Learn more about teen accounts and Instagram's ongoing work to protect teens online at instagram.com/teenaccounts.

• 36:20Dax Shepard?

  Do you have any memories of going to events and watching dad arm wrestle?

• 36:25Speaker 02

  By the time I was born, he was fully.

• 36:28Dax Shepard?

  Yeah, it was 12 years after the championship.

• 36:30Speaker 02

  Yeah, he genuinely did that one job, but he would talk about it a lot. And my dad would always intimidate my sister's boyfriends by like grabbing their hands really hard. Oh, yeah. And like just proving that he could break their hands if he wanted to.

• 36:43Dax Shepard?

  You're supposed to kind of do that as the dad.

• 36:45Speaker 02

  It was really, really, um, he would really hurt them. Oh, no. They were like, oh, my God, Mr. King, please stop it. Please stop it. Please stop it.

• 36:53Dax Shepard?

  Okay, past the point of.

• 36:55Speaker 02

  He was like, I'm gonna get you, boy. Like, he's crazy. My dad's crazy. But isn't that crazy? Like, it is such an interesting piece. And then like my dad, like I find old photos of him and I see old photos of my mom. And you don't recognize these strangers because of what they looked like and how my dad used to have like a mullet. It's like, who were they? And my dad used to be like shirtless at the championships. That is so not my dad's personality, like. Wow.

• 37:18Dax Shepard?

  He would arm wrestle with his top off.

• 37:20Speaker 02

  I mean, he was posing with trophies with his top off sometimes.

• 37:23Dax Shepard?

  Love it. He must have been so thrilled to get to meet Sly.

• 37:27Speaker 02

  He was so excited. And also, my dad is very, what's the word I'm looking for? He's met so many people in LA over the years, being an electrician. He services a lot of people's homes.

• 37:37Dax Shepard?

  Sure.

• 37:38Speaker 02

  And at the time, he often was meeting people when their power was out and they were upset.

• 37:43Dax Shepard?

  They're at their worst.

• 37:45Speaker 02

  So he's jaded? I've never met anyone like my dad. The way he digests things is not quite the same as like, I wouldn't say it's jaded, but he just has very judgmental, hard opinions on people that are very declarative. Even if someone is super nice, he can be like, I don't know about that. And you're just like, what? He's kind of negative. What are you talking about? He's so nice. But he like was super excited. I think he had like all these expectations of like what being on a film set was like. And I think Sylvester Stallone was probably very kind and very focused. Oh, he was a little disappointed. I mean, he always. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a personality type. But he's also got very excited over the years when I would work with people too. Oh, I'm sure. Yeah.

• 38:23Dax Shepard?

  But if I were an arm wrestling champion, I don't think anyone listening would understand the context of 1987. So we didn't have UFC fighting. You had boxing.

• 38:32Speaker 02

  Which my dad loved UFC.

• 38:33Dax Shepard?

  Sure.

• 38:34Speaker 02

  We barely had Monica Patton.

• 38:35Dax Shepard?

  We just had her.

• 38:37Speaker 02

  Just barely.

• 38:38Dax Shepard?

  Depending on when the championship was.

• 38:40Speaker 02

  Sneaking on in.

• 38:41Dax Shepard?

  Yeah, if it was after August 24th, ding ding ding.

• 38:45Speaker 02

  Coming up. Coming up. I'm not turning 27, unfortunately. What are you turning? Incredible, incredible year. How have you enjoyed your 30s? Sorry to deviate. Oh, no. That's a great question. I've enjoyed them so much. Yeah? I'm so happy. His 30s where it's at? A hundred percent. I have no desire to be back in my 20s. I'm a little anxious about these 40s. Heard they're great. I've heard they're great too. I've heard good things. I've only heard good things.

• 39:14Dax Shepard?

  It kind of just gets better.

• 39:15Speaker 02

  That's what we've heard. You know what? I can't wait for my brain to continue to mature. You really become you in your 30s. You just relax. I mean, like, I've already feel like I'm cresting past some weird mental health stuff that I think I was in for the last two years and I'm starting to feel like me again. Good. And I think I'm like, wait, I think it's gonna get better even more than this. I can feel that. I can feel that coming.

• 39:38Dax Shepard?

  Okay, this is more of an update I need. Two years ago, when you would go to bed, you were putting tape over your mouth, you had a bite guard in, and you were doing hair masks. That was your routine two years ago.

• 39:53Speaker 02

  Right.

• 39:53Dax Shepard?

  Have you added more to it? Have you lost any? What's happening with your routine?

• 39:59Speaker 02

  I do nothing now. I do none of that. I forget my night guard nightly. Who needs it? Mouth tape, actually, I think would be good. What can I say? I forgot to keep it up.

• 40:09Dax Shepard?

  Okay.

• 40:09Speaker 02

  And at the time, my hair was going through some severe bleaching for the show that I was on. And so it's better now. You don't need it. I don't need it. I'm sure as time goes by, I'll pick up some nightly routines. I'll pick up some fads, more stuff that I'll let go. Like loafers with socks. Exactly. But I have shorter legs, so I don't think I'll be doing that one. But if I was wearing a miniskirt, maybe I would. Or maybe long pants. Nothing in between. No midi skirts. Okay.

• 40:40Dax Shepard?

  Is your husband appreciative? Like, cause my curiosity was at that time, you were very newly married and you were putting all this apparatus on your face and head. That was my inquiry last time.

• 40:51Speaker 02

  My mom said the same thing when I was doing it.

• 40:52Dax Shepard?

  Anyone would point it out.

• 40:53Speaker 02

  She was like, I just want to sleep next to that. I was like, mom. She's like, you look crazy.

• 40:59Dax Shepard?

  It sounds like you were rehabbing from a severe burn. You know, like you were lying next to a medical.

• 41:04Speaker 02

  By the way, knock on wood, because I did have a very severe facial burn last year. Oh, my God. This was last year in like March or April or something. I was cooking at home. Another chicken. Oh, Jesus. Another chicken situation. And I was putting chicken thighs into like a very hot pot. And I like kind of chucked them in there and the hot oil spit back on my face. And I had a burn going all down my neck. Oh, my God.

• 41:28Dax Shepard?

  Did it bubble?

• 41:28Speaker 02

  It looked so bad. It looked like it was gonna scar terribly. Yeah. And luckily it didn't. But I remember I was on a red carpet after it had healed enough to put makeup on it. But you could still see there was like dry patches and it looked a little bit red. There was like a video of me on TikTok where I was like posing on the carpet and I looked maybe slightly anxious. I don't know. And people in the comments were like, what's going on with her neck? Oh, God. There is marks on her neck.

• 41:54Dax Shepard?

  Oh, they thought you were getting abused?

• 41:56Speaker 02

  They thought I potentially tried to hurt myself. Oh. Or something else was going, something.

• 42:02Dax Shepard?

  Something nefarious.

• 42:03Speaker 02

  It was so strange to me because I half read it as kind concern and then I half read it as you really just don't know anybody. Exactly. Just like leave everyone alone. I literally just like was cooking. Yeah. You know, everything's a conspiracy there. And then I did have to sleep with some crazy stuff on after, after that. Some heavy ass creams and sometimes like Saran wrap on things so that the creams would stay.

• 42:24Dax Shepard?

  Sure.

• 42:25Speaker 02

  My best friend was coming over and I was cooking her dinner. And then it happened right before she came and she like knocked on the door and I was like holding ice cubes on my face. I was like, hey, come on in. I just burned myself. I'll be fine. Cause it wasn't marking yet.

• 42:36Dax Shepard?

  Yeah.

• 42:36Speaker 02

  But it really was burning. So I explained to her what happened and she was like, you're crazy. This is going to scar. You're an actress. Like, we need to take care of this right now. Yeah. Thank God for her because I was not locked into an urgent state of mind. And then when she was like, this will scar, all of a sudden I was like, wait a minute. That can't happen.

• 42:55Dax Shepard?

  Yeah. You're like a surgeon who just cut a finger off and you're like, should I go get it reattached? Ah, fuck, throw it in the trash with the pennies.

• 43:01Speaker 02

  Yeah, like I'll be fine. I'll operate without it. But then, once it was healing and it was looking like it was scarring, but it was definitely getting better day by day. I started giving myself really nice blowouts in my hair so I could feel pretty. Because I was like, this is crazy.

• 43:15Dax Shepard?

  Yeah.

• 43:15Speaker 02

  And I have like a couple of photos of me selfies in my camera roll from that time where I'm just like, really like, mm, serving. Because I was just like, I need to feel pretty right now. But it was a really interesting pattern. I'm so glad it didn't scar. But if it had and I wasn't an actress, I wouldn't have been embarrassed to go out or anything.

• 43:32Dax Shepard?

  Right, right, right, right.

• 43:33Speaker 02

  But I'm an actress, so it would have been a problem. Well, you could have turned into a character actor. You're like really dark. I've got a thing. You got a thing. I got a cool, I got a. Joey with facial scars.

• 43:42Dax Shepard?

  Well, look, again, this is a privilege of a man, but there's several really famous, cool actors that have some cool scarrage on their face.

• 43:49Speaker 02

  Yeah. Yeah.

• 43:50Dax Shepard?

  Maybe Norman Reed. I shouldn't name names, but.

• 43:54Dax Shepard?

  Am I right, Rob? Norman Reedus, does he have a rad scar?

• 43:56Speaker 04

  Oh, you think you were the Sons of Anarchy guy?

• 43:58Dax Shepard?

  Yeah. Yeah, he's got a cool scar, I think.

• 44:00Speaker 02

  What about, um, oh, God, the Omar from The Wire?

• 44:05Dax Shepard?

  Michael K. Williams.

• 44:06Speaker 02

  Thank you. Did he pass away?

• 44:07Dax Shepard?

  He did. It's so sad.

• 44:09Speaker 02

  Amazing scar. Yeah.

• 44:10Dax Shepard?

  He did. He had the coolest scar. And you know how he got that?

• 44:13Speaker 02

  I actually don't.

• 44:13Dax Shepard?

  He was an addict and he got that at a bar. Someone razored him in the face, yeah.

• 44:19Speaker 02

  I think anybody who has a defining characteristic about them and is brave enough to just put themselves out there.

• 44:25Dax Shepard?

  If you're him, if you're Michael K. and you own that shit, you're like, that's fucking cool looking. If you're him and you're like cowering all the time, then you're like, oh, this poor man. You have the choice to tell others how they should feel about it.

• 44:36Speaker 02

  I mean, I think you feel that way about, even if we pare down, having some kind of obvious, let's say, scarring or disability or anything. If you pare that back even, I just think you have the ability to kind of dictate how anyone just feels about you. Even if you have insecurities or rings. I, I think that that's a piece of my puzzle over the last couple of years where I've just been like. Oh, if I'm feeling this way about me, I really don't want to show up that way into the world because it allows other people to feel that way about me. I know that I don't need that.

• 45:13Speaker 01

  So are you saying in the past couple of years, you've been sort of riddled with like other people's opinions of you?

• 45:19Speaker 02

  That's a good question.

• 45:20Speaker 01

  Or like, what's been going on?

• 45:21Speaker 02

  What's been going on?

• 45:22Speaker 01

  What's been going on in these last two years with you?

• 45:25Speaker 02

  I don't know. There's been amazing moments, there's been low moments. I keep making jokes, like my frontal lobe developed two years ago and it's terrible. But there's a part of me that's like, maybe that's what it was. Maybe that's true. I think that I was feeling a little bit out of my realm of joy. I feel like I've always reached for joy really easily in my life. And then it became a little bit tougher and I couldn't pinpoint why. And that like was really freaking me out because I feel like I'm a very positive person. And then that made me start to really feel badly about myself because I wasn't able to like find the joy.

• 45:57Dax Shepard?

  You were judging yourself.

• 45:59Speaker 02

  And then like everything that was maybe not so serious to me once upon a time felt like dire.

• 46:04Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 46:05Speaker 02

  And it was like, what is going on? Like, why do I feel like things that don't usually bother me or upset me feel so dire? And I would get lost in that thought. And then once I exhausted that, I would beat myself up for not being able to get out of it.

• 46:19Dax Shepard?

  Exactly.

• 46:20Speaker 02

  Even if I wake up feeling this way every day and I'm moving through the world this way, I do kind of believe in like the fake it till you make it vibe in terms of just like, if you put on a fake smile, it eventually becomes a real smile because it does make you feel better. Last week, I got bad news about something, but I had to jump right into an interview that was like half an hour long. And once the interview was over, like I actually did feel better because I was being jovial and forced to make conversation about other things and kind of feel happy for a minute. It goes such a long way to just like try to change your perspective and feel positive. It's so much easier said than done. But I think that there was, yeah, just like a thing of like, if I put out what I'm feeling deeply into the world every day, it's not gonna reflect nicely.

• 47:04Dax Shepard?

  You recognize the power of distraction in preventing rumination. Ruminations death.

• 47:10Speaker 02

  Jemima Jo Kirk does this thing with Elle magazine every now and then where she answers burning questions from young women.

• 47:17Dax Shepard?

  They're incredible.

• 47:18Speaker 02

  And one of her things was somebody was saying like, I'm feeling so insecure about myself and da, da, da, da, da, like, what should I do? And her answer was like, you should stop thinking about yourself so much. And I was like, oh my God, wait. She's right. So then every time I would get kind of in one of those weird holes, I was like, wow, I'm really just thinking about me so much right now.

• 47:39Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 47:39Speaker 02

  Like, what if I tried to think about someone else or like other things? And it would kind of help me get out of that mindset. But I finally feel like I'm stepping out of that hole I was in for a while.

• 47:51Dax Shepard?

  Yeah, this is the hack of AA, which is you're required to do service, but we admit and acknowledge the service is selfish. So I'm gonna help you, but in helping you, I'll be forced to stop thinking about myself. And all of my relief is gonna come from stopping evaluating what could make Dex happier? What could make Dex feel more status? All these things. It's very hard to be doing it while you're actively dealing with someone else's problem.

• 48:16Speaker 02

  Totally.

• 48:16Dax Shepard?

  So it's like, even though it seems selfless, it's for you. It's relief from yourself.

• 48:21Speaker 02

  I agree. I feel so sometimes distracted and annoyed that I'm like stuck with me forever.

• 48:28Dax Shepard?

  Yeah.

• 48:29Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 48:29Speaker 02

  But then I'm like, that's fine. You just don't have to make it all about you.

• 48:33Dax Shepard?

  Yeah.

• 48:34Speaker 01

  And also too, there's just like something really kind of important about losing your way for a second. Cause I do think it allows you to remember what feeling great can feel like, strive to get back there, but like learn a lot of things about how you deal with stress of all kinds, familial, financial, whatever it is, it's gonna feel really exhausting and hard. But when you learn it young, I think it sets you up for a brighter path of dealing with it when you get older.

• 49:06Speaker 02

  And also it allowed me to be like, I may be feeling all these things right now and I can't totally pinpoint why, or maybe having a harder time grabbing onto like the joyous feeling that I normally am able to grab onto, can't pinpoint why. Like at the end of the day, when I look at my life, when I look at my family, when I look at every person in my life that I have, I am really happy. I'm really happy. I've got great people in my life. I might be feeling these things and those things can exist at the same time. So it's like, I felt good about, I was like, I'm allowed to feel this way. I'm allowed to like have that space to feel this way. And because I'm not having to stress about, I don't have like a crumbling marriage. I don't have like a horrible relationship with my sister. I'm ruminating on these things because I don't have these outside stressors that are really bad.

• 49:49Dax Shepard?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 49:50Speaker 02

  So it's just allowed me to be kind of grateful that those were my problems.

• 49:53Dax Shepard?

  Also, nobody makes a change who is content. None of us like to change. It's not comfortable to change. So in a weird way, if you're consistently happy and content, what you're also admitting is like, well, you're never gonna change because we don't change for fun.

• 50:10Speaker 02

  No.

• 50:10Dax Shepard?

  Right? We change because we're unhappy or we've gotta make an adjustment.

• 50:14Speaker 01

  Big stuff happens.

• 50:15Dax Shepard?

  Yeah. It's weird. We all desire to be completely happy at all times, but then you'd be acknowledging, well, then I'll never change. I'm gonna be the same person in 40 years because why would I change if I'm happy?

• 50:25Speaker 01

  You're also probably not that happy if you're always happy.

• 50:29Speaker 02

  Yeah. Well, it's all in relation, right?

• 50:32Speaker 01

  Yeah, you don't have a contrast or a concept of why you're happy if you're always happy.

• 50:37Dax Shepard?

  You're probably not putting yourself out there that much.

• 50:39Speaker 02

  Yeah. And not to say I was like always happy. It was just more like I had an easier time grabbing onto like the better perspective, the happier thought, waking up on the right side of the bed.

• 50:49Speaker 01

  It kind of sounds chemical if I'm being honest. It just sounds like hormonal a little bit.

• 50:53Speaker 02

  I think it was like a brain change, a body change, something. And I think it's good to have contrast in your life.

• 51:00Speaker 01

  And to learn things are temporary. I think that's a big part of it.

• 51:04Dax Shepard?

  I think part of the discomfort is when you're in that situation, you think it's permanent. This is the new me. What happened? I used to be so happy.

• 51:11Speaker 02

  Every time I get my period, the week before, the feeling, I'm like, this is how I feel forever.

• 51:18Speaker 01

  Miserable.

• 51:19Speaker 02

  I'll never feel different. And then it passes and I'm like, wait a minute, oopsie, forgot.

• 51:22Dax Shepard?

  Okay, another thing that's happened in the last two years is I probably found in my research then, two years ago, that you were friends with Sabrina Carpenter, but I really didn't care. My then 10 year old became obsessed with her. So then I was listening to music with her all the time and I took her to the show and I just am so obsessed with her now. Among the best moments of my entire life was we're leaving the show and we had to drive back from downtown LA home and we held hands and we were listening on repeat that song. Don't smile because it happened, baby. Cry because it's over.

• 51:58Speaker 02

  I want you to miss me.

• 52:00Dax Shepard?

  Me when you're not. Holding hands with my daughter, listening to that song on repeat. I was like euphoric.

• 52:07Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 52:07Dax Shepard?

  I owe this woman such a debt of gratitude. Now I'm really delighted you guys are best friends.

• 52:12Speaker 02

  We have known each other for many, many moons.

• 52:15Dax Shepard?

  I think what's a blessing for both of you guys is that it worked out for both of you guys.

• 52:20Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 52:21Dax Shepard?

  It can be a little stressful if you've both endeavored on this thing and then one of you just gets left in the dust. You know, that happens.

• 52:28Speaker 02

  I know what you mean. One thing about her though, is she's just a loyal friend. She's just always has the same friends. We've just been friends forever. All of her friends have been her friends mostly for so many years. She's the best.

• 52:42Dax Shepard?

  I love the vibe. It's so good.

• 52:44Speaker 02

  I know, she's so talented. She's so smart.

• 52:47Dax Shepard?

  She's really in charge.

• 52:49Speaker 02

  I'm just always like, you're kind of, you're so clever.

• 52:51Speaker 01

  Well, last time you were on, you said that you were talking to her on the way to the show, to our show.

• 52:56Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 52:57Speaker 01

  And I was like, oh. And yeah, Dex didn't really know or care. And I was like, this is a big deal. This is a big deal. He's notoriously late on most things. So then he found out.

• 53:10Dax Shepard?

  I'm 51, cut me some slack.

• 53:11Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'm cutting you slack. Slack has been cut. You know what? I was thinking about that. I actually called her right afterwards as well to be like, I just finished. I was actually on the phone, my sister, speaking of wonderful women in my life, my sister was telling me that, she said, you have to tell them today that I love Armchair Anonymous and I've been dying to have a topic that I get to call in for.

• 53:35Speaker 01

  She is a right in.

• 53:36Dax Shepard?

  Hold on a second. I'll go a step further.

• 53:38Speaker 01

  Tell us what to do.

• 53:39Dax Shepard?

  Ask her what her favorite craziest story is. And I bet we could build the whole prompt around it.

• 53:45Speaker 01

  Yeah, sure.

• 53:45Dax Shepard?

  Yeah, it'd be so easy.

• 53:46Speaker 02

  Oh my God.

• 53:47Dax Shepard?

  This is a done deal.

• 53:48Speaker 02

  This is Hunter, by the way.

• 53:49Speaker 01

  We need more submissions, actually.

• 53:51Dax Shepard?

  I'm so delighted she loves Armchair Anonymous. That means you're nasty.

• 53:54Speaker 02

  She's nasty.

• 53:54Dax Shepard?

  Yeah, we're nasty.

• 53:55Speaker 01

  She's nasty.

• 53:56Speaker 02

  Like, it's our best show.

• 53:58Dax Shepard?

  Did she tell you about it at all?

• 54:00Speaker 02

  Yes, of course. Absolutely. She was telling me about, of course, the poop ones, obviously.

• 54:04Dax Shepard?

  Those are great. We would like to do those every Friday, but we have to police ourselves.

• 54:08Speaker 01

  Or foreign objects up the body.

• 54:09Dax Shepard?

  I was gonna say, what has taken over from the duty stories is these foreign objects and bodies. Because what happened is we end up interviewing a lot of nurses and nurses are our favorite demographic in the world. We love nurses. They're all so playful and they've seen it all. They're wonderful. And one of them happened to just mention it in another story and I go, oh my God, how many times have you seen that? And she's like, oh, 30 or 40. She goes, you'll never meet a nurse who's not dealt with 30 or 40 foreign objects and bodies.

• 54:39Speaker 02

  It feels right. That feels like the right number to me.

• 54:43Speaker 01

  Have you ever had a foreign object in your body?

• 54:46Dax Shepard?

  That would be an exclusive.

• 54:47Speaker 02

  Stuck? Yeah, exclusive.

• 54:50Speaker 01

  Okay, we're gonna cut the clip right there.

• 54:53Speaker 02

  What was, I was watching the new Jackass movie the other day and Steveo like swallowed a golf ball and then shot it out his rectum.

• 54:59Speaker 01

  What?

• 55:00Speaker 02

  It was like a trick. He like had it up there and he was like.

• 55:03Speaker 01

  Yeah, because also no choking.

• 55:06Dax Shepard?

  Yeah, I don't wanna swallow.

• 55:08Speaker 02

  No, it wasn't a golf ball. It might've been a golf ball.

• 55:10Speaker 01

  That's crazy.

• 55:10Dax Shepard?

  I bet it was a golf.

• 55:11Speaker 04

  It was a ping pong ball, I think.

• 55:12Speaker 02

  Say again?

• 55:13Dax Shepard?

  Ping pong ball.

• 55:13Speaker 02

  Yes, that's right, because it made a funnier noise when it came out.

• 55:16Dax Shepard?

  It was three in the hand, it's two in the bush.

• 55:17Speaker 02

  Yeah, it was like, he had four hands in the bush. It was like, ding, ding, ding.

• 55:21Speaker 01

  We're not recommending doing that.

• 55:23Dax Shepard?

  I have seen that show in Thailand. The famous, you hear this, this is in all the Vietnam movies.

• 55:29Speaker 02

  The Jackass show on MTV. I was like, me too, duh.

• 55:31Dax Shepard?

  You know about the rich history of the GIs in Vietnam, going on R and R in Thailand. And there were all these different brothels and all these things happening in Bangkok. And one of them's the ping pong ball show.

• 55:43Speaker 02

  I did not know this.

• 55:44Dax Shepard?

  You guys don't know about this?

• 55:46Speaker 01

  I don't know this either.

• 55:47Dax Shepard?

  Okay, so I'm on a family vacation with my mom, sister and stepfather and we're in Bangkok.

• 55:53Speaker 02

  So your aunt and uncle?

• 55:55Dax Shepard?

  Say what?

• 55:56Speaker 02

  Well, you said your mom's sister.

• 55:58Dax Shepard?

  I said my mom, sister and stepdad.

• 56:00Speaker 02

  His mom, your sister. My mom's sister. I'm like, that's your aunt.

• 56:04Dax Shepard?

  Me and my aunt. She doesn't have a sister. We took in one. My mother knew the history completely. She knew the area of town we had to go to.

• 56:12Speaker 02

  Took in one.

• 56:14Dax Shepard?

  The show.

• 56:14Speaker 02

  Oh, took it in.

• 56:15Dax Shepard?

  Of the many feats that were performed, they shot a dart out and popped a balloon taped to the ceiling.

• 56:22Speaker 01

  Out of their butt.

• 56:23Dax Shepard?

  Out of their vagina. These are all out of the vagina.

• 56:25Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 56:26Dax Shepard?

  Have you heard it now? Is that ringing a bell?

• 56:27Speaker 02

  But I have seen a strip club show where a woman was shooting dollar bills out of her.

• 56:34Dax Shepard?

  Okay, great.

• 56:34Speaker 01

  Okay. And how far were they traveling?

• 56:36Speaker 02

  She was queefing them out and it was like impressively far. It was like.

• 56:42Dax Shepard?

  We've cleaned it up.

• 56:43Speaker 01

  This episode.

• 56:44Speaker 02

  We have covered every orifice.

• 56:47Dax Shepard?

  I'm only bringing it up so that I can tell you how interesting it was at nineteen or twenty to be sitting next to my stepdad. In this experience.

• 56:57Speaker 01

  Sister.

• 56:58Dax Shepard?

  No, no, no, just he and I went in.

• 57:00Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 57:01Dax Shepard?

  My mom and sister had no desire to see it, but we were encouraged. You're here. This is a thing people see. You should see it.

• 57:08Speaker 02

  I wish it was the whole family.

• 57:09Speaker 01

  Me too. Me too. It's disappointing.

• 57:12Dax Shepard?

  I wish it was the whole grandma.

• 57:14Speaker 02

  I wish it was family bonding. That would have been nice. That would have been so nice.

• 57:18Dax Shepard?

  But my stepfather, who has since passed, was the sweetest, quietest man ever. He was an electrical engineer. And so we're watching this show. It's just a strange experience to be sitting next to your stepfather. And then, of course, they know I've got no money. They're ignoring me, but they're just crawling all over him and he doesn't know what to do. And I'm like, I'm trying to help. Yeah, you know, they're trying to get him to maybe go get a lap dance.

• 57:41Dax Shepard?

  He was getting full court press.

• 57:43Speaker 02

  Is that like the craziest situation you've ever been in with your stepfather or a parental figure?

• 57:48Dax Shepard?

  Gotta be top of the list. I'd have to think about it, but yeah.

• 57:52Speaker 02

  My poor grandma, she hasn't seen anything like that with me, but me and my sisters have exposed her to so much like raunchy. We were playing back in the day when we were teenagers, like Cards Against Humanity with her. We had to teach her what bukkake was.

• 58:05Speaker 01

  How did that go?

• 58:06Speaker 02

  She was fine. I mean, she was just like annoyed that we were talking to her this way. We were like, well, it's like if a bunch of friends get together.

• 58:16Speaker 01

  Yeah. It's like, how do you even describe that to a grandma?

• 58:20Speaker 02

  Come on, come on, my friends. And she was just like, oh my God, how dare you? How dare you talk like this? This is disgusting. She was like venting to me yesterday and she called me and she like said the word fuck and she like never does that. And she was like mid vent, very heavily venting. And then she stops herself midway and she was like, I know I never say that word. And then just like kept going. She was a full engine. So fun. She's gonna be eighty seven this year.

• 58:44Speaker 01

  Oh, wow. Good for her.

• 58:45Dax Shepard?

  She's on spry. If she's on the phone with you, dropping F bombs.

• 58:48Speaker 02

  She's really spry. We play mahjong together.

• 58:51Speaker 01

  Oh, I love mahjong.

• 58:52Speaker 02

  Me too. Oh my God, we should play. Let's play. Yes. Oh, my God. I would like to start right now. No, it's not that long. I mean, I could sit there for six hours and play. Oh my God, I could just play all day. Take a little quesadilla break, come back. Then me and my mom had a little date with her best friend a few days ago that we did that.

• 59:14Speaker 01

  Played mahjong fun.

• 59:15Speaker 02

  We played mahjong. We sat in the sun, took a quesadilla break, came back. I had an interview on like Zoom. I did that. I came back.

• 59:22Speaker 01

  Oh, it's the best.

• 59:23Speaker 02

  It was a great day.

• 59:25Speaker 01

  Oh, great day.

• 59:26Speaker 02

  You know what? I've been having really nice girl dates lately. My sister took me out to dinner two nights ago.

• 59:32Speaker 01

  Where'd you go?

• 59:32Dax Shepard?

  Have you heard of Arby's?

• 59:34Speaker 02

  I love Arby's. Have you ever tried Tommy's chili? Which by the way, love.

• 59:38Dax Shepard?

  Yeah, me too.

• 59:39Speaker 02

  It's so good.

• 59:40Dax Shepard?

  On the fries.

• 59:40Speaker 01

  I've never had that.

• 59:41Dax Shepard?

  Tommy Burger?

• 59:42Speaker 02

  Their chili moves in such a unique way. It comes out as a one solid thing.

• 59:46Dax Shepard?

  It's very gelatinous.

• 59:48Speaker 02

  Extremely. You tilted out of the styrofoam cup and no residue.

• 59:52Speaker 01

  Interesting.

• 59:52Dax Shepard?

  Well, there's a little bit of oil left over in this styrofoam.

• 59:55Speaker 02

  That's it.

• 59:56Dax Shepard?

  That's it.

• 59:56Speaker 02

  Not a chunk in sight. Okay.

• 59:59Dax Shepard?

  I'm gonna implore you to watch the movie Chips. We have a really nice scene at Tommy Burger. And I'm getting that chili all over my outfit and it's just gooping. And as a lover of the chili, I think you'll appreciate that.

• 1:00:13Speaker 02

  I do love the chili.

• 1:00:14Dax Shepard?

  Okay, Practical Magic.

• 1:00:16Speaker 02

  Oh, yes.

• 1:00:16Dax Shepard?

  Here we are.

• 1:00:17Speaker 02

  Speaking of sisterhood and sweet women.

• 1:00:20Speaker 01

  Girl dates.

• 1:00:20Speaker 02

  Girl dates and having dinner with my sister.

• 1:00:23Dax Shepard?

  I first need some backstory. So the original, the first Practical Magic came out in nineteen ninety eight. And it started Sandra Bullock and Nikki Kitty, Nicole Kidman.

• 1:00:34Speaker 02

  Nikki Kid.

• 1:00:35Dax Shepard?

  This is your second movie with Nikki Kitty, yeah?

• 1:00:37Speaker 02

  This is my second movie with Nikki.

• 1:00:39Dax Shepard?

  So that movie, and I am not being critical. I just brought up Chips. It didn't make any money. Okay? But the movie made sixty five million dollars and it cost like sixty five or seventy million dollars. So it's an interesting.

• 1:00:49Speaker 02

  I'm shocked.

• 1:00:50Speaker 01

  And it was like critically panned, but it's a classic.

• 1:00:53Speaker 02

  No, it found its audience.

• 1:00:55Dax Shepard?

  That's the explanation I'm kinda looking for.

• 1:00:56Speaker 02

  It came out, Sandy and I were talking about this the other days, like how she was like saying that like it didn't do well. It really hurt them because they had so much fun making it. The reviews at the time were crazy. They would say things like, there's too many women in this movie. Like, how many women do you need in one movie?

• 1:01:12Dax Shepard?

  How many women does it take to screw in a movie?

• 1:01:14Speaker 02

  And she was like, that was like every other article was saying like, it's too many women in one movie. Like, it's so womany. And it was just so crazy to me, thinking about that being a criticism and where we are today.

• 1:01:25Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:01:25Speaker 02

  But it's like had this massive life after it came out and has this cult following. I am telling you, I have never been in something that people find out about where I've had more people say that they are begging for this. They're so excited to see this. This is like one of the biggest reactions I've had in my career in terms of something I've been part of. It's so crazy.

• 1:01:49Dax Shepard?

  So Monty, you're a huge fan.

• 1:01:51Speaker 01

  I'm the audience. I am the audience for this.

• 1:01:54Dax Shepard?

  You were eleven when it came out.

• 1:01:55Speaker 01

  I was hardly eleven.

• 1:01:57Dax Shepard?

  You know, you were eleven.

• 1:01:57Speaker 01

  But it's like the thing you watch at the sleepovers with your friends. You do the dance.

• 1:02:02Speaker 02

  Lime in the cooking.

• 1:02:04Speaker 01

  Exactly. I mean, there's like scenes.

• 1:02:06Speaker 02

  There's quotes, the fashion, the aesthetic of it all, the ants. It is such an iconic movie. In plot, in aesthetic, in sexiness. And so what's crazy is just how, you were like ten when it came out. I was not around yet.

• 1:02:24Dax Shepard?

  You were negative one.

• 1:02:24Speaker 01

  You were not even an embryo.

• 1:02:25Speaker 02

  Negative one. I was not even an embryo quite yet. So actually, so close. Oh, no. And, you know, my mom loved that movie. My sisters loved it. It's one of those movies that the women who are so excited to see it now, it's like spanning generations of a family. So this movie has just such a power. I was ten when I saw it for the first time.

• 1:02:45Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:02:46Speaker 02

  And I loved this movie. And my mom was like, oh yeah, Practical Magic? Duh. Love that movie.

• 1:02:53Speaker 01

  I've already been there.

• 1:02:54Speaker 02

  And I was like, um, well, now I love that movie. And she was like, great, we can rewatch it together all the time. It means so much to me and my sisters. Like, it is so crazy to be here.

• 1:03:03Dax Shepard?

  In the sequel.

• 1:03:04Speaker 02

  Promoting this movie that you're now in. Years after they made the first one, like getting to be on set, watching Nicole and Sandra be Sally and Jilly. It's like so crazy.

• 1:03:16Dax Shepard?

  Stay tuned for more Armchair Expert if you dare.

• 1:03:23Dax Shepard?

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• 1:04:05Dax Shepard?

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• 1:04:49Speaker 01

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• 1:05:01Dax Shepard?

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• 1:05:16Speaker 01

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• 1:05:16Dax Shepard?

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• 1:07:07Dax Shepard?

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• 1:08:19Speaker 01

  Now, are you worried? Are you worried about this? This is so meaningful to so many people.

• 1:08:26Speaker 02

  It's so meaningful.

• 1:08:26Dax Shepard?

  There's like Devil Wears Prada 2.

• 1:08:28Speaker 01

  It reminds me of that in the same way that it's just like, oh my God, it better be so good. Like, there's a lot of pressure.

• 1:08:35Speaker 02

  Of course. Also, just like joining in as a new cast member, and I know that it's so exciting and there's so many feelings and my heart is racing about it because I just want to make people like proud. I want to make the fandom proud. I feel like this movie does absolute justice for a sequel. Like, I'm so, so pleased by how it turned out. It's so special. But you know what's also nice, too, is I think that when I was cast, like how warm and welcoming everyone was, was amazing, but also there was understandably from the fans of the movie, in the first movie, Evan Rachel Wood played Kylie, who's the character that I'm playing.

• 1:09:17Speaker 02

  And I think initially it was like very hard for audiences to kind of imagine that she and the original young woman who played Antonia weren't part of it, but we're following a very specific kind of age storyline of where the girls are in the books. The girls in the Book of Magic, you know, they're of a certain age, they're just like out of college.

• 1:09:37Dax Shepard?

  Yeah, they gotta be discovering that they're witches, right?

• 1:09:39Speaker 02

  Totally. But luckily, she wished me well. She like said in an interview recently I saw where she was like, I wish Joey the best, and so like I reached out to her and like that was like so sweet and it was just like a really nice, because like everyone was saying things online. And then I was like, well, what if we just chatted? And so that was really nice because it's just so noisy when people make their mind up about kind of like how to behave when they feel something about someone or a casting choice.

• 1:10:05Dax Shepard?

  I wish AI could tell us what the actual percentage of the world who feels that way.

• 1:10:10Speaker 02

  Totally.

• 1:10:11Dax Shepard?

  Because I bet you it's like under half a percent.

• 1:10:14Speaker 02

  Totally.

• 1:10:14Dax Shepard?

  They're so fucking loud.

• 1:10:15Speaker 02

  And like, I love Evan Rachel Wood, and so I was super touched when she like said that in her interview, that she like wished us all well. And that was really nice because she didn't have to do that. And also, like you said, it's like, I feel like the noise can become so much noisier than maybe it actually is, but it does feel that way sometimes.

• 1:10:33Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:10:33Dax Shepard?

  Tell me about your relationship with Nikki Kitty.

• 1:10:36Speaker 02

  She's amazing. Also, just getting to work with her again, as life brings you different challenges and you work with people who are just so wise and smart, and same with Sandy, and you just get to have discussions with people that you respect, admire, not about the career that you have, but just about things in life that you just didn't expect to have to deal with.

• 1:10:54Dax Shepard?

  Normally, I hate this question in interviews, but I do find myself genuinely curious right now. Were there any huge life hacks that you said, can you think of any moment where you're like, oh, I'm delighted I heard that? Well, like, we interviewed Tom Pelfrey, right? And he's just so fucking brilliant on that task show. And he's talking about working with Mark Ruffalo, and he was shocked with how playful Mark Ruffalo is and how not serious he is between these takes that are very, very serious. He said to him, "Have you always been this way?" And he said, "No, I used to be like you." And he's like, "What's that?" And he's like, "Really intense."

• 1:11:27Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:11:28Dax Shepard?

  And I just found it untenable. Like, I won't be able to do it forever if I'm doing it this. And like, that was a little bit of a breakthroughy thing for him, like, oh, wow, I can be that great, but I don't have to kill myself to be that great.

• 1:11:38Speaker 01

  We had Olivia Wilde on, and she said that Jennifer Garner once told her, I've been like thinking about this a lot, that Jennifer Garner told her once, like, hey, the tabloids, like, the culture casts you. They decide what your role is, and that's your role forever. So to be like all agitated by it or try to fight it, they've already done it, and there's like acceptance mode around that. And I was like, that is brilliant and true.

• 1:12:07Speaker 02

  That's so interesting.

• 1:12:07Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:12:08Speaker 02

  That's a really great way to like think about it.

• 1:12:10Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:12:11Speaker 02

  Because that like brings me to like so many people I grew up seeing in the tabloids and like how their role was defined through like how the tabloids made us view them.

• 1:12:21Speaker 01

  Yes, exactly.

• 1:12:22Speaker 02

  And it is decided, like it's decided for you.

• 1:12:24Dax Shepard?

  You're like, oh, this is the person who really wants to have a baby and never can.

• 1:12:28Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:12:28Dax Shepard?

  And here's the person who can't keep a husband, and here's the person.

• 1:12:31Speaker 02

  This is the party girl.

• 1:12:33Speaker 01

  Exactly.

• 1:12:33Speaker 02

  This is the...

• 1:12:34Speaker 01

  America's sweetheart.

• 1:12:35Speaker 02

  That's why big moments when people like Miley Cyrus are like, never mind what you said, I'm not that. That was such an amazing cultural moment, but I do feel like it is true in terms of I'm not at all as defined, I would say, as those people are as big at all as those names, but there's been just like a feeling that comes with a public perception and how that makes you feel. And if it should make you feel anything ever, especially how accessible it is to see what everyone says about you online, but now I'm just like, wait a minute, good or bad, whether they're saying really nice things, really mean things, really untrue things about my beliefs, whatever, they're saying my real life is great. It doesn't permeate that at all.

• 1:13:20Dax Shepard?

  You still get hired to do roles you love.

• 1:13:22Speaker 02

  I still get hired to do roles I love. I still have a really nice life at home. Then I guess it really doesn't permeate my space. And like, it's true, like it doesn't. So like, what does it matter?

• 1:13:32Dax Shepard?

  It's a soap opera that you're actually not living in.

• 1:13:34Speaker 02

  Yeah. Well, that's why it's like when I read that stuff about like, what's going on with Joey? And she's got those marks on her neck. I'm like, oh, wow, this is such a simple thing for me, but now it's not a simple thing for certain people. I posted this TikTok yesterday, like, because I like hit my head really hard a few days ago, because I was super excited to see my sister, and she was picking me up. And I like looked out the window to see if she was there, and like I hit my head in the wall when I was like turning around, and it was brain rattling hard. It's very tender to the touch, but I posted a TikTok about it. It's very tender to the touch. I posted a TikTok about it, and like someone commented like, we'll find out what really happened next year. I'm like, what do you mean?

• 1:14:11Speaker 01

  Also, what? What?

• 1:14:12Speaker 02

  What does that even mean? So which is like so funny to me because I'm like, wow, I truly am living a simple life.

• 1:14:17Speaker 01

  What do you think the role is you've been cast in?

• 1:14:20Speaker 02

  I don't know if I have been.

• 1:14:22Speaker 01

  Yeah, I don't think you do, by the way.

• 1:14:24Speaker 02

  Not even yet. That's not a good word to use. I don't know if I have been. I think that luckily, we're less in that culture as we were, like, people aren't buying Star Magazine anymore to see who looks terrible in a bikini.

• 1:14:35Dax Shepard?

  Well, again, there were four or five that were on the checkout stand, so it was very easy for the narrative to be controlled, because there's only four sources.

• 1:14:44Speaker 02

  No, literally.

• 1:14:44Dax Shepard?

  But now you have people's own social media accounts to counteract the narrative.

• 1:14:48Speaker 02

  Yeah, because they're like sharing what they see the world like, what they actually like are interested in. My mom and I used to have, when I was like nine and beyond, we used to have Trashy Magazine Night, and we would buy all four.

• 1:15:00Dax Shepard?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:15:00Speaker 02

  And then we'd get like some snacks and ice cream.

• 1:15:03Speaker 01

  It takes a day break.

• 1:15:04Speaker 02

  And then we would knit, and we would read, and we would pass the magazines back and forth, and it was so fun, but I also just like remember what we were reading was so troubling at that time.

• 1:15:13Dax Shepard?

  Sure, sure, sure.

• 1:15:14Speaker 02

  But my favorite part was who wore it better? That was my favorite.

• 1:15:18Dax Shepard?

  I like stars are like us.

• 1:15:19Speaker 02

  Oh, stars are like us.

• 1:15:21Dax Shepard?

  Like someone's underwear is hanging on as they bend over at the gas pump.

• 1:15:24Speaker 02

  Yeah, someone's cleaning up their dog shit.

• 1:15:26Dax Shepard?

  Yeah. Getting a parking ticket.

• 1:15:28Speaker 01

  Oh, so exciting.

• 1:15:30Dax Shepard?

  Yeah. Oh, man, they are just like us. Oh my, look at that.

• 1:15:34Speaker 02

  Oh my goodness.

• 1:15:35Dax Shepard?

  They haven't transcended all the annoying parts of living. And then Maisy's in it and we had her on and we adored her.

• 1:15:43Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:15:43Dax Shepard?

  She's such a sweetie pie.

• 1:15:45Speaker 02

  She's the nicest girl in the world.

• 1:15:47Dax Shepard?

  Were you a Game of Thrones fan?

• 1:15:49Speaker 02

  No, I've actually never seen it.

• 1:15:50Speaker 01

  Oh my lord.

• 1:15:51Dax Shepard?

  You have to watch it.

• 1:15:53Speaker 02

  I know.

• 1:15:53Dax Shepard?

  She has the coolest fucking role on that show. She became the star of that show.

• 1:15:59Speaker 01

  Yeah, she really did.

• 1:16:00Speaker 02

  I've seen so many clips of her from that show.

• 1:16:02Dax Shepard?

  No, you gotta watch the whole ride.

• 1:16:03Speaker 02

  No, I know, I know.

• 1:16:04Speaker 01

  Are you scared?

• 1:16:06Speaker 02

  No, I was just when it came out. What year did that come out?

• 1:16:08Speaker 04

  Two thousand and eleven.

• 1:16:10Speaker 02

  Two thousand and eleven.

• 1:16:10Dax Shepard?

  About fifteen years ago.

• 1:16:11Speaker 02

  Alright, so I was eleven, twelve when that came out.

• 1:16:14Speaker 01

  Okay, you're a bit young.

• 1:16:15Speaker 02

  I wasn't interested in like the darker, dragon-y shows yet.

• 1:16:19Speaker 01

  I get that.

• 1:16:19Speaker 02

  And then by the time I got curious about it, it was so many seasons in that I was like, am I really gonna start this show?

• 1:16:25Speaker 01

  You should.

• 1:16:26Speaker 02

  Now it's one of those where I'm like, it's been so long since it came out that it's actually needs to be watched now. In a way that's, I really love revisiting television that I'd never seen. I was too young when The Sopranos came out. I love The Sopranos. I love The Larry Sanders Show, The Wire. It's time to watch Game of Thrones.

• 1:16:40Dax Shepard?

  The way I feel about you right now is that you have a lottery ticket at home.

• 1:16:44Speaker 02

  I know.

• 1:16:45Dax Shepard?

  That's worth like ten million dollars. And I'm like, oh my god, I can't believe she's got the thing sitting there.

• 1:16:48Speaker 02

  Okay, wait, that's a good feeling. Okay, that's a very good endorsement. When you get excited for someone else to see something for the first time.

• 1:16:54Dax Shepard?

  I'm like mad with jealousy right now. I would give anything to set fresh eyes. Let's do it.

• 1:17:01Speaker 02

  I just think she's so wonderful that I'm excited to just see my friends.

• 1:17:06Dax Shepard?

  Also, do you like her? She's such a rock star in it. Chris and I regularly say like, man, I can't wait till the girls get old enough that we get to re-watch that whole show again through their eyes. That's like my next best thing I have waiting, but it's like, come on y'all, let's get in the mood for this.

• 1:17:21Speaker 02

  Yeah, you're like, let's just get dark and dragon-y and sexy and kill some baby.

• 1:17:24Speaker 01

  It gets dark for sure.

• 1:17:25Dax Shepard?

  Oh, it's very dark, very, very dark.

• 1:17:27Speaker 02

  My sister loves that show.

• 1:17:29Speaker 01

  Your sister has great taste.

• 1:17:30Speaker 02

  I know, I know.

• 1:17:31Dax Shepard?

  And was she so pumped that you were working with her?

• 1:17:33Speaker 02

  So pumped.

• 1:17:34Dax Shepard?

  Yeah, she's a bad motherfucker on that show.

• 1:17:36Speaker 02

  But Maisy's just like the coolest girl. She's so nice, she's so chic, and she also has like the nicest speaking voice I've ever heard in my life. I could listen to her talk all day long. I just love hanging out with her.

• 1:17:48Dax Shepard?

  Yeah, I went to Savannah Bananas. One of the questions that the baseball player asked me is like, who's like the most down-to-earth star? And I was like, oh wow, racking my brain of who I think is down-to-earth, you know? That's kind of a tall order.

• 1:18:04Speaker 02

  Yeah, I feel like everyone I've ever interviewed and met.

• 1:18:06Dax Shepard?

  But boy, she is so fucking down-to-earth. I wish I would've thought of her when he asked me.

• 1:18:10Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:18:10Dax Shepard?

  Also, like to try to go through everyone you knew. I just, of course, thought of the twenty people I know who are in the fucking stratosphere of Bizarro Land, and I don't wanna shit talk anyone.

• 1:18:20Speaker 02

  Of course you do. Like, anytime people ask me like, who's the nicest, I immediately am like, who the babies?

• 1:18:26Dax Shepard?

  I can tell you right now.

• 1:18:27Speaker 02

  Sorry, my brain went somewhere else.

• 1:18:29Speaker 01

  Right? I think I would say Elizabeth Moss.

• 1:18:32Dax Shepard?

  Oh sure, great pick. Great pick.

• 1:18:35Speaker 01

  Very down-to-earth.

• 1:18:36Speaker 02

  Very cool.

• 1:18:36Dax Shepard?

  Coupled with her work, it's so disorienting in the funnest way. She's a playful, playful goofball, and I love her.

• 1:18:44Speaker 01

  Very smiley. We're doing the interview for Handmaid's Tale and you're like, how are you doing that?

• 1:18:49Speaker 02

  I know, I know.

• 1:18:50Dax Shepard?

  She just starts laughing right after that six-minute close-up of her crying in agony, and then they yell cut, and she's like immediately laughing.

• 1:18:57Speaker 01

  Man, it's kinda like you with that show.

• 1:18:59Speaker 02

  With the act.

• 1:19:00Speaker 01

  So intense.

• 1:19:01Speaker 02

  I think there is a bit of like, uh, people always ask me like, did you take that show home with you after? I was like, no.

• 1:19:06Dax Shepard?

  That would've been a strange one for you to take home with you.

• 1:19:08Speaker 02

  No, me like there was a hard to shed at the end of the day, it's so heavy. I think it's like you gotta separate your work and your life. I also really enjoy going to work. Even if a day is hard, I'm like doing something I really love to do.

• 1:19:18Dax Shepard?

  Well, the odds are that you'll be pretty proud of yourself after that hard day, right? It's like, it'll be hard, but you'll be like, oh, I got through that scene that I wasn't, you know, I was scared about.

• 1:19:26Speaker 02

  I was thinking about that scene for a month. I'm gonna sleep so good. It's gonna be great. I feel fulfilled at the end of the day. That was a crazy thing when I like first felt fulfilled by working, cause I started so young. I was like nine years old when I was like, this is the most fulfilling thing in the world. So crazy.

• 1:19:41Dax Shepard?

  A little bit of an unfortunate release date, yeah, for you to publicize. Have you thought about it?

• 1:19:46Speaker 02

  September eleventh.

• 1:19:48Dax Shepard?

  Oh, we moved it.

• 1:19:49Speaker 02

  We moved it.

• 1:19:49Dax Shepard?

  Oh god, because I read, I was typing at the top of my notes today and I was like, I'm so bummed of a date to have to go around the country and say, check out my movie on nine eleven.

• 1:19:59Speaker 01

  Oh, well, I think you just, yeah, I was gonna say you say September eleventh, but that's still not good.

• 1:20:03Dax Shepard?

  Nothing works. I was trying to think of how I'm gonna save a date.

• 1:20:06Speaker 02

  I agree, I do agree. I was like, okay. And then I was like, well, it comes out, and then they changed it to like the tenth because it opens on the tenth, and I was like, perfect.

• 1:20:15Speaker 01

  That's much better.

• 1:20:16Dax Shepard?

  Thanks, everyone.

• 1:20:16Speaker 01

  But some people have birthdays on September eleventh, okay? Oh, boy.

• 1:20:20Speaker 02

  My nephew was born on September eleventh.

• 1:20:21Speaker 01

  He has to say it all the time.

• 1:20:23Speaker 02

  Yeah. No, but Nikki Kid, fabulous. Sandy Bowl, amazing.

• 1:20:27Speaker 01

  What's their advice? Give us one piece.

• 1:20:29Speaker 02

  They've been through so much themselves, and then me and my family were going through a bit of like a shakeup with familial health and kind of intense orchestration and logistics of how we take care of someone. And so that was really helpful to talk to people who have been through similar things, have had the life experience of that, and have also like been in the industry at the same time as doing those things. So like, there was just a lot of genuine support in like the crevices of life that have nothing to do with the public eye and industry. So that was really nice, because then I felt just like such a real connection of needing support, needing women, and like them showing up.

• 1:21:08Dax Shepard?

  A little nurturing.

• 1:21:09Speaker 02

  So nurturing. I love to be nurtured.

• 1:21:11Dax Shepard?

  Yeah, good for you.

• 1:21:12Speaker 01

  Except not when you're in the bathroom, puking.

• 1:21:15Speaker 02

  No, but other than that, I'm really good at asking for help.

• 1:21:18Dax Shepard?

  You are.

• 1:21:19Speaker 02

  I'm good at asking.

• 1:21:21Dax Shepard?

  I'm envious of that.

• 1:21:21Speaker 02

  Are you a Leo?

• 1:21:23Speaker 01

  I'm a Virgo.

• 1:21:23Speaker 02

  Okay, I don't know when the cusp's on.

• 1:21:25Speaker 01

  It's close.

• 1:21:26Dax Shepard?

  Are you a Leo?

• 1:21:27Speaker 02

  I am. I love my birthday, and I'm really good at asking for help.

• 1:21:30Speaker 01

  Yeah, this is great.

• 1:21:32Dax Shepard?

  You know what? I have a theory on this. I just launched it recently. I have certain people in my life who love their birthday, and I have certain people that don't love their birthday. I'm one who doesn't necessarily love my birthday.

• 1:21:42Speaker 02

  When's your birthday?

• 1:21:42Dax Shepard?

  January second. What I've concluded is, it's the summer birthday people, and it makes so much sense.

• 1:21:48Speaker 02

  Well, I hate the summer.

• 1:21:50Speaker 01

  Oh, you do?

• 1:21:51Speaker 02

  Oh my god, I hate the summer.

• 1:21:54Speaker 01

  This is a hot take.

• 1:21:55Speaker 02

  It is so oppressive.

• 1:21:57Dax Shepard?

  What a bitch. Well, that's the headline. She's a bitch. She hates summer.

• 1:22:01Speaker 02

  Joey's such a bitch. She hates summer.

• 1:22:03Dax Shepard?

  What do you hate about it?

• 1:22:04Speaker 02

  It's so goddamn hot.

• 1:22:06Dax Shepard?

  Okay, well, so what you hate is heat.

• 1:22:09Speaker 02

  Yeah, I really don't like it. I love winter, I love fall, and I also just feel like I grew up in LA.

• 1:22:14Dax Shepard?

  Also, you don't know what the hell winter or fall is.

• 1:22:16Speaker 02

  No, I do.

• 1:22:17Dax Shepard?

  You're saying that and someone in Michigan is like, you do not love winter. You love California.

• 1:22:21Speaker 02

  I spent two winters in Michigan.

• 1:22:22Speaker 01

  Oh, that's tough.

• 1:22:24Dax Shepard?

  Why?

• 1:22:24Speaker 02

  Cause I work all over the world.

• 1:22:26Speaker 01

  She's a working actress.

• 1:22:27Dax Shepard?

  You've shot in Michigan?

• 1:22:28Speaker 02

  I've shot in Michigan.

• 1:22:29Dax Shepard?

  What did you shoot?

• 1:22:30Speaker 02

  I shot Oz the Great and Powerful there, and I shot a movie I did called The Lie.

• 1:22:34Dax Shepard?

  Okay.

• 1:22:35Speaker 02

  Oh no, that was in Canada. Wait, what else did you shoot?

• 1:22:37Dax Shepard?

  Well, it's very close, then. We neighbor.

• 1:22:38Speaker 02

  I shot a movie called Family Weekend in Michigan. I shot like three things in Michigan, actually. I love the winter because I don't deal with it annually. I dip in and out of winter. I know that I don't know what I'm talking about, but I love how romantic. It's so cute.

• 1:22:55Dax Shepard?

  And Christmas is better when you have some snow.

• 1:22:57Speaker 02

  Of course.

• 1:22:57Dax Shepard?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:22:58Speaker 01

  But do you also know that the heat here is not real?

• 1:23:01Dax Shepard?

  Yeah, that's not even hot here.

• 1:23:02Speaker 01

  That you think it's hot, but it's not hot?

• 1:23:03Speaker 02

  No, I, I, I.

• 1:23:05Dax Shepard?

  It's coming. September, it'll be hot.

• 1:23:08Speaker 02

  I know.

• 1:23:09Speaker 01

  It's not the same, though. It's not the same.

• 1:23:11Speaker 02

  Where are you thinking?

• 1:23:12Speaker 01

  I'm from Georgia.

• 1:23:14Speaker 02

  I love a Georgia heat. It's awful, but my skin looks so good. I have also spent four summers in Georgia.

• 1:23:20Speaker 01

  My goodness, you are a travel bug.

• 1:23:22Speaker 02

  My skin looks really good when I spend the summers there.

• 1:23:24Speaker 01

  Okay, some people, I've heard this from other people too, they love humid areas because their skin and their hair. I have the opposite.

• 1:23:30Speaker 02

  And also, LA, you can't have, it's too dry. Like, Georgia is so nice because in Atlanta, it's summer, but you're living within so much greenery.

• 1:23:40Speaker 01

  It is green, which is nice.

• 1:23:42Speaker 02

  Because it won't catch on fire. Here, it's just, it's going to catch on fire.

• 1:23:46Speaker 01

  But trees may fall on your house.

• 1:23:47Dax Shepard?

  These are solid fucking points.

• 1:23:48Speaker 02

  You just gotta get an arborist out there.

• 1:23:50Speaker 01

  You gotta take care of those trees.

• 1:23:51Dax Shepard?

  We spent the whole summer in Nashville, second summer in a row. It's very, very hot and very, very humid, but I'm with you. I'm sitting there on the screen in Porch, and like the amount of life I can hear is almost deafening.

• 1:24:01Speaker 02

  Like the, it is really nice. All the buzzings that I love.

• 1:24:04Dax Shepard?

  And the frogs and the deer in front of me.

• 1:24:07Speaker 02

  Though, and the smell of a summer night in the south.

• 1:24:10Speaker 01

  I agree with you on that.

• 1:24:11Dax Shepard?

  The thing I kept flagging to my kids this summer is it would be windy, right? In LA, you can't feel the wind because there's nothing in it, the air, right? There's no water in it, so it's not heavy. But like when you're walking in Nashville and the wind's blowing, it's like you can feel it moving through your hair, and you really get the sense of like, oh, I do live inside of something. I am surrounded by something. You don't have that feeling here.

• 1:24:33Speaker 02

  I completely agree, and I never thought of it like that, with the wind having nothing in it, because yesterday I was walking my dog, and now I'm like putting it together. The way I get almost feral when I smell someone's sprinklers on, hitting their grass. I seek that house out, and I kinda just sit there for a minute, and I sniff, like my dog. I'm like.

• 1:24:51Speaker 02

  And I think what I'm craving is a bit of humidity.

• 1:24:53Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:24:54Dax Shepard?

  I'm a smell fiend as well. I get very adjusted by smells.

• 1:24:58Speaker 02

  What about the smell of rice cooking?

• 1:25:00Dax Shepard?

  Well, that's a nice smell.

• 1:25:01Speaker 01

  That is nice. That's a deep cut.

• 1:25:03Speaker 02

  I love when I can smell rice cooking.

• 1:25:06Speaker 01

  Wow. Did you grow up eating a lot of rice?

• 1:25:08Dax Shepard?

  She did four movies in Japan. She did four falls.

• 1:25:12Speaker 02

  Yeah. Spent six summers in Japan. No, my mom would make brisket and rice on special occasions and I could smell the rice.

• 1:25:19Speaker 01

  You know what's funny? My parents made rice every day. It's an Indian cuisine in a rice cooker every day. So I was very against rice.

• 1:25:28Dax Shepard?

  Cause you thought it was gonna expose you.

• 1:25:30Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:25:31Speaker 02

  Expose you to what?

• 1:25:32Dax Shepard?

  Being different.

• 1:25:32Speaker 01

  Being Indian and being different.

• 1:25:34Dax Shepard?

  Being brown as hell.

• 1:25:35Speaker 01

  Not expose me to like a parasite or something. But then I had a friend over in second grade and she saw that my parents were eating rice and she was like, can I have some rice? Like she was so excited about rice and I was so confused.

• 1:25:49Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 1:25:50Speaker 01

  And I didn't know what to think.

• 1:25:51Speaker 02

  That's such a nice moment.

• 1:25:52Speaker 01

  I know, but it didn't permeate. I was still like, I don't trust it.

• 1:25:55Dax Shepard?

  She was impenetrable.

• 1:25:56Speaker 02

  Well, you know, that makes a lot of sense. Before I stopped going to school, I went to school with kids who had Asian parents and things in their lunchbox to be so insecure about. It was so natural to be scared of what the other children would think and some kids are like shitty. Like and they're just like, they pick on you for nothing.

• 1:26:15Dax Shepard?

  For your kimchi.

• 1:26:16Speaker 02

  Yes, for your kimchi. It's totally understandable to like wanna like conceal.

• 1:26:21Speaker 01

  No, there's a lot. Stop. There's so many smells.

• 1:26:25Speaker 02

  Smells in Indian cuisine. So many. You can smell it down the street. Favorite cuisine.

• 1:26:29Speaker 01

  It's a great cuisine.

• 1:26:30Speaker 02

  No flavors have ever been more exciting to me.

• 1:26:33Dax Shepard?

  You've been in London, obviously. You've probably worked there.

• 1:26:35Speaker 02

  Where I filmed this. Such amazing Indian food.

• 1:26:39Dax Shepard?

  Fuck, is it good?

• 1:26:40Speaker 02

  Oh my god. It was constant.

• 1:26:42Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:26:42Dax Shepard?

  I need them to open up. There's like three really famous ones.

• 1:26:45Speaker 02

  Dushun?

• 1:26:46Dax Shepard?

  Yeah. They need to open that up here.

• 1:26:48Speaker 01

  Love Dushun.

• 1:26:49Dax Shepard?

  Let's collect our.

• 1:26:50Speaker 02

  I got a little token at Dushun last time I went that was a little like, show this to the waiter and you guys both get to flip it. And it was like a heads or tails thing. And if you call it, your meal's free.

• 1:27:00Speaker 01

  What?

• 1:27:00Speaker 02

  And I never got to use it after I got it because I didn't go back to Dushun after that, cause I was almost done with the shoot.

• 1:27:05Dax Shepard?

  But you had called it?

• 1:27:06Speaker 02

  I still have it.

• 1:27:07Dax Shepard?

  You had called it? Or you get to do it then?

• 1:27:09Speaker 02

  I get to do it when I go back.

• 1:27:10Speaker 01

  That's exciting.

• 1:27:11Speaker 02

  I know. Let's go to Dushun.

• 1:27:12Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:27:13Dax Shepard?

  Fuck, I'm like dying to have. I think I'm gonna order Indian food for dinner.

• 1:27:16Speaker 02

  I was just thinking the same thing.

• 1:27:18Speaker 01

  We don't have good Indian food here.

• 1:27:20Dax Shepard?

  It's good enough for me.

• 1:27:21Speaker 02

  Every crevice of LA has one.

• 1:27:23Speaker 01

  What do you like? Where should we order?

• 1:27:25Speaker 02

  I like Crown of India.

• 1:27:27Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:27:28Speaker 02

  I also like, back when I lived in Sherman Oaks, I like Indian Masala House. A lot of the places that I've discovered, it's just like, you have to keep trying the places in the strip mall areas.

• 1:27:40Speaker 01

  Yeah, I know.

• 1:27:40Speaker 02

  Because you're gonna find a good one.

• 1:27:42Dax Shepard?

  That's right. That's right.

• 1:27:43Speaker 02

  You just have to keep trying.

• 1:27:44Dax Shepard?

  And I hope that's what everyone walks away with from this stuff. So keep trying.

• 1:27:48Speaker 02

  It's cool to try.

• 1:27:49Dax Shepard?

  Ms. King, you're so fun. You can come back every day. You're so much fun to talk to. Practical Magic comes out September 10th.

• 1:27:57Speaker 02

  10th?

• 1:27:58Dax Shepard?

  Yeah, very safe day.

• 1:28:00Speaker 02

  I'm so happy that you're so excited. I'm so excited and it's always a joy to see the two of you.

• 1:28:05Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 1:28:06Speaker 02

  And I love the new set.

• 1:28:07Speaker 01

  Thank you.

• 1:28:08Speaker 02

  I haven't been here since.

• 1:28:09Speaker 01

  I know. It's true.

• 1:28:10Speaker 02

  And it's gorgeous and it's always so fun to talk to you.

• 1:28:13Dax Shepard?

  Well, we'll certainly talk to you again.

• 1:28:14Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:28:15Dax Shepard?

  As this career moves on like the freight train that it is.

• 1:28:18Speaker 01

  That's right.

• 1:28:18Dax Shepard?

  Um, adore you, adore you. Be well.

• 1:28:21Speaker 01

  Bye.

• 1:28:21Speaker 02

  Be well. He is an armchair expert, but he makes mistakes all the time. Thank God Monica's here. She's gonna let him have the facts.

• 1:28:31Speaker 01

  Why does it smell in here?

• 1:28:32Dax Shepard?

  Rob says there was something in the trash that was tinky.

• 1:28:38Speaker 01

  It is stinky in here.

• 1:28:40Dax Shepard?

  What would you, what would you rate this? I think it's like a three, two and a half. Yeah?

• 1:28:44Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 1:28:44Dax Shepard?

  Like I can, there's something here, but it's not like, I gotta put my shirt over my nose.

• 1:28:49Speaker 01

  It's definitely trash. Like you know how you can just tell when it's trash?

• 1:28:53Dax Shepard?

  Yeah.

• 1:28:54Speaker 01

  It's trash.

• 1:28:55Dax Shepard?

  Can I tell you a passive aggressive thing I do on airplanes if I'm convinced the person next to me is farting?

• 1:29:00Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:29:01Dax Shepard?

  Well, it's, it's both survival and I do want them to see.

• 1:29:05Speaker 01

  Sure.

• 1:29:05Dax Shepard?

  I put my nose under my collar.

• 1:29:08Speaker 01

  Uh huh.

• 1:29:09Dax Shepard?

  And I keep it there and I like, I, I'm almost favoring them a tiny bit.

• 1:29:15Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 1:29:15Dax Shepard?

  So they know like, hey man, look what I have to do.

• 1:29:19Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 1:29:20Dax Shepard?

  Do you have any moves if you're suspicious that your partner's farting?

• 1:29:23Speaker 01

  I'll like do this, like.

• 1:29:25Dax Shepard?

  You rub your nose.

• 1:29:26Speaker 01

  Yeah, I like touch it. I like touch.

• 1:29:27Dax Shepard?

  Do you ever uh wave, wave the air?

• 1:29:30Speaker 01

  Like a cartoon?

• 1:29:31Dax Shepard?

  Yeah, yeah. I do. I also vocalize too. I'll go, oh, mm. Not, wait, not that loud. That was an exaggeration. I'll go, ugh, that loud.

• 1:29:39Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:29:40Dax Shepard?

  I'm signaling like, it's not my fart, cause of course I wouldn't mind it.

• 1:29:44Speaker 01

  Okay. See, now this is where I'm shocked. I'm actually shocked that you have any passive aggressive moves about this because you fart on airplanes.

• 1:29:56Dax Shepard?

  Well, no, I'm very conscientious about it. If, I'll let a tiny bubble out, as you know.

• 1:30:02Speaker 01

  Ding ding ding, that comes up.

• 1:30:03Dax Shepard?

  Oh, it does. Oh, wow. That feels crazy. Um, yeah, I do a tiny bubble. Like if you're gonna picture like, you know the size of nerds, those candies?

• 1:30:14Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:30:14Dax Shepard?

  I let one nerd out.

• 1:30:16Speaker 01

  God.

• 1:30:16Dax Shepard?

  And then if I don't smell anything, then I let a blueberry out.

• 1:30:23Speaker 01

  Oh, it's incremental.

• 1:30:24Dax Shepard?

  It's incremental. And then if there's still nothing there, then I might go for a ping pong size, which is probably the whole, the whole thing.

• 1:30:32Speaker 01

  Okay. Yeah. I was like, that's huge.

• 1:30:34Dax Shepard?

  But if when I do my nerd.

• 1:30:36Speaker 01

  You have so much air in you.

• 1:30:38Dax Shepard?

  Me or everyone?

• 1:30:39Speaker 01

  You.

• 1:30:40Dax Shepard?

  Oh yeah, I think I do have a lot of air. Not as much as some of my friends though, I gotta say.

• 1:30:44Speaker 01

  Sure.

• 1:30:44Dax Shepard?

  Yeah, I think if you had a balloon attached to your anus and you tooed it, it would definitely inflate at the size of a ping pong ball.

• 1:30:52Speaker 01

  Hmm. Oh, I see how you're measuring it.

• 1:30:54Dax Shepard?

  Yeah.

• 1:30:55Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:30:55Dax Shepard?

  That feels right.

• 1:30:56Speaker 01

  That's like, it just feels forceful to create a whole ping pong ball.

• 1:31:00Dax Shepard?

  Well, that feels like you gotta expel it, like push it out.

• 1:31:03Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:31:05Dax Shepard?

  When Andre would take a fart.

• 1:31:08Speaker 01

  Now you're saying they're not being conscientious enough, but if they had, you wouldn't be doing this?

• 1:31:13Dax Shepard?

  So then, I, I didn't finish. If I let my nerd out and I'm like, oh gosh, I can kinda, that would be an issue at a blueberry or a ping pong ball. I then wait, I hold them as much as I can until I know my insides are gonna explode. Then I go to the bathroom.

• 1:31:27Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:31:28Dax Shepard?

  And then I have a whole system in there or I let it out and then I flush, cause when you flush, there's a real vacuum effect. It sucks all the air in that little box out. This is back when I used to smoke on airplanes illegally. You could, this is how I would do it.

• 1:31:41Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 1:31:41Dax Shepard?

  Um, and so I'm trying to get it out of the toilet as well. And then I'll wait for a second, cause I'm so self-conscious if I open the door and there's this.

• 1:31:48Speaker 01

  A waft?

• 1:31:50Dax Shepard?

  Well, specifically if there's a flight attendant standing right there.

• 1:31:53Speaker 01

  Oh shit. Yeah. Now, are you sitting for the farts in the toilet, in the bathroom? You're standing.

• 1:32:00Dax Shepard?

  Yeah, standing.

• 1:32:00Speaker 01

  And are you leaning over a little?

• 1:32:03Dax Shepard?

  Well, I'm always leaning over, cause I'm too tall for the bathroom on an airplane.

• 1:32:06Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:32:07Dax Shepard?

  Yeah, to the degree that for me to pee, cause if you can picture it, it's, it's concave and it's getting, you know, the closer you get to the bowl, the, the, the less height you have.

• 1:32:19Speaker 01

  Uh huh.

• 1:32:20Dax Shepard?

  So I'm often, when I pee, I'm like, um, reverse arc.

• 1:32:26Speaker 01

  Oh, you're backbent.

• 1:32:27Dax Shepard?

  To get my uh genitalia close to the toilet, yet my head will not fit there.

• 1:32:33Speaker 01

  Oh, wow. Okay.

• 1:32:35Dax Shepard?

  Yeah. It's uh, there's a lot of privileges with the height. This is one of the times where it's not terribly advantageous.

• 1:32:42Speaker 01

  So you're just standing up and farting? There's no?

• 1:32:44Dax Shepard?

  Yeah, I do stand up fart and then I, the second I think it's all out, then I hit, cause you only get one flush. Cause if you flush a second time now and the flight attendants out there, it's like, what's going on in there? He put a boot in the toilet and can't get it down. Because it wasn't, it was too big?

• 1:33:01Speaker 01

  No, I just was too scared that there, I mean, these are emergency situations. I barely even pee on planes.

• 1:33:08Dax Shepard?

  Okay.

• 1:33:09Speaker 01

  But a few times, oh god, this is, why do we do, why are we like this?

• 1:33:14Dax Shepard?

  You've had some number twos on planes?

• 1:33:16Speaker 01

  Rarely.

• 1:33:17Dax Shepard?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:33:18Speaker 01

  But it's happened and it, and it's an emergency.

• 1:33:20Dax Shepard?

  Water balloon.

• 1:33:21Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:33:22Dax Shepard?

  Yeah.

• 1:33:22Speaker 01

  And uh, in that case, I'm so, I am so self-conscious.

• 1:33:27Dax Shepard?

  Yeah.

• 1:33:28Speaker 01

  But more about the wafting, not about talking to anyone.

• 1:33:30Dax Shepard?

  I want you to, cause I wanna see the physiology on your body. So you're in there.

• 1:33:36Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:33:37Dax Shepard?

  You have a water balloon.

• 1:33:38Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:33:38Dax Shepard?

  You're um.

• 1:33:39Speaker 01

  Demoralized.

• 1:33:41Dax Shepard?

  Second flush, you know it's still bad and then you now know you're in there too long.

• 1:33:48Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:33:48Dax Shepard?

  And you hear a gentle knock.

• 1:33:49Speaker 01

  Oh, okay. Hugs. Yeah, I'm in here.

• 1:33:53Dax Shepard?

  Yeah, but we already heard it flushed twice. Like, you know, you've got no choice now but to exit. We, I just wanted like, I really want you to be in that moment. So you flushed twice. Now you're biding your time and then it's just a little.

• 1:34:04Speaker 01

  Um, uh, yeah. I'm not coming. See.

• 1:34:09Dax Shepard?

  You're not gonna come out.

• 1:34:10Speaker 01

  I, I think.

• 1:34:10Dax Shepard?

  You know someone's standing there and they, you know, they know you flushed twice and you're gonna.

• 1:34:15Speaker 01

  I would just say, I will still say like, oh, I'm in here. Like, I'm in here.

• 1:34:20Dax Shepard?

  Yeah, yeah. I'm busy. I have work to do.

• 1:34:23Speaker 01

  What if they say, okay, then if they say, why don't you, you be there?

• 1:34:26Dax Shepard?

  I'm trying to get to the punchline of what I want this experiment to be.

• 1:34:29Speaker 01

  I know. You're always, okay.

• 1:34:30Dax Shepard?

  You open the door and, and Taryn Egerton is standing.

• 1:34:35Speaker 01

  Jesus Christ, Dex.

• 1:34:37Dax Shepard?

  Can you imagine?

• 1:34:42Dax Shepard?

  And he goes, oh, Moni- Monica.

• 1:34:45Speaker 01

  I'd be like, no, I'm not. Who?

• 1:34:48Dax Shepard?

  What are you talking about?

• 1:34:49Speaker 01

  Who?

• 1:34:49Dax Shepard?

  You fucking racist? What, cause I'm Indian? You think I'm that other?

• 1:34:51Speaker 01

  Monica Padman? She would never do what I just did in there.

• 1:34:56Dax Shepard?

  She's flawless. You should call her. Bye.

• 1:35:00Speaker 01

  Don't worry about her hair on that episode. Um.

• 1:35:04Dax Shepard?

  I'm in here.

• 1:35:07Speaker 01

  Doesn't that ever happen to you when like, sometimes that happens at like a restaurant or something? They think it's open and then they're trying to come in and I'm like, I'm in here. I do say, I'm in here.

• 1:35:17Dax Shepard?

  You say, I'm in here? I, I try to have a bit of fun with it.

• 1:35:22Speaker 01

  Why?

• 1:35:22Dax Shepard?

  Or sometimes I'm in the mood to have a bit of fun with it. And then so it's like, hi.

• 1:35:28Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:35:29Dax Shepard?

  That's so weird, right? To hear that, it's almost inviting.

• 1:35:33Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, that's scary. But that's good. The other person then feels like, oh, hi, oh, sorry.

• 1:35:38Dax Shepard?

  Hi. How are you?

• 1:35:43Speaker 01

  Where are you flying?

• 1:35:44Dax Shepard?

  I've been better. I try not to do this on airplanes.

• 1:35:47Speaker 01

  Oh, God, it's awful.

• 1:35:49Dax Shepard?

  Kristen was at a hotel last night because of the Emmys.

• 1:35:51Speaker 01

  Oh, she stayed at the hotel?

• 1:35:53Dax Shepard?

  Yes, I urged her strongly, begged her to stay at the hotel. Like, take a fucking break and get a good night's sleep.

• 1:35:58Speaker 01

  Okay, cool.

• 1:35:59Dax Shepard?

  So.

• 1:36:00Speaker 01

  I wonder, okay, I'm glad you cleared that up. I wondered that because she posted a picture of her in her beautiful dress at three, before they left for the Emmys, like, ready.

• 1:36:11Dax Shepard?

  Okay.

• 1:36:11Speaker 01

  And it said 3:10 PM. And then it said like 8:10 PM and she was in her pajamas. But I was like, where is she?

• 1:36:19Dax Shepard?

  Ah, uh huh, yeah, she was at a hotel. So we had a lovely night last night, the girls and I. We, um, we watched Mayday. Have you watched it?

• 1:36:27Speaker 01

  No. Is it a TV show?

• 1:36:28Dax Shepard?

  It's on Apple TV. It's a movie with Ryan Reynolds. I can't imagine you haven't seen it advertised. Soon as you open up Apple, it's generally.

• 1:36:35Speaker 01

  Okay, I'm not your servant.

• 1:36:36Dax Shepard?

  Him and Kenneth Branagh.

• 1:36:38Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 1:36:38Dax Shepard?

  Am I saying that right, the last name? It's.

• 1:36:40Speaker 01

  Yeah, I think so.

• 1:36:41Dax Shepard?

  It scares me. He's, by the way, Kenneth Branagh, if that's how you say it, is.

• 1:36:45Speaker 01

  Legend.

• 1:36:46Dax Shepard?

  He's so exceptional.

• 1:36:47Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:36:47Dax Shepard?

  He's a great director. I love all those Mystery on the Nile, whatever they're all called, right? That series, Agatha Christie series.

• 1:36:54Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:36:55Dax Shepard?

  Anyways, a great movie. Boy, they, to watch him step up, like Lincoln becomes mom, she cooks dinner for her in Delta. They cleaned up really well. It was perfect, yeah. Walked out to the school and then I got, I'm like, ah, yeah, fuck it, let's go. Let's keep the momentum. I go on a hike and then I walk by your house and then I immediately see our lovely neighbor, Guillermo. And he has a, well, I don't see him. I just see, he has a vehicle I really want.

• 1:37:22Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 1:37:23Dax Shepard?

  And then I do this thing every time I walk by the vehicle, I go like, okay, how do I plant a seed to him? Hey, whenever you're gonna move on from that vehicle.

• 1:37:32Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 1:37:32Dax Shepard?

  Cause my hunch is he's just gonna dump it, right? Like, it's, it's gonna be so inconvenient to try to sell it. Once again, people coming over to his house and everything. So now I'm trying to think of a way that I can somehow get this maybe at a 10% discount.

• 1:37:44Speaker 01

  Oh, I have his phone number.

• 1:37:45Dax Shepard?

  Me too.

• 1:37:46Speaker 01

  Then why don't you just text him and say, hey?

• 1:37:48Dax Shepard?

  I always walk by and I think of how I will formulate. What is the best way to roll this out?

• 1:37:53Speaker 01

  Okay, this is what I would say. Hey, this is Dax, your neighbor.

• 1:37:56Dax Shepard?

  Hey, we've met.

• 1:37:57Speaker 01

  This is gonna sound crazy. And, but if you're ever looking to get rid of.

• 1:38:04Dax Shepard?

  Dump.

• 1:38:04Speaker 01

  Dump your.

• 1:38:06Dax Shepard?

  Yeah.

• 1:38:06Speaker 01

  Put, fill in the blank car. I know what it is.

• 1:38:09Dax Shepard?

  1987 Chevette.

• 1:38:12Speaker 01

  I'm your guy.

• 1:38:13Dax Shepard?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:38:16Speaker 01

  And, uh, smiley face.

• 1:38:18Dax Shepard?

  Mm hmm.

• 1:38:19Speaker 01

  Let me know.

• 1:38:20Dax Shepard?

  I love you. I'm gonna take this package.

• 1:38:23Speaker 01

  I want that.

• 1:38:24Dax Shepard?

  Do you remember that's a callback?

• 1:38:26Speaker 01

  I don't remember that.

• 1:38:27Dax Shepard?

  When I was at Walgreens and I just, I was panicked about getting to the airport. And I just said, I love you, I'm gonna take this.

• 1:38:33Speaker 01

  I did forget that.

• 1:38:34Dax Shepard?

  That could be another thing we could work out, maybe, is we could do a fake stealing. He could report it stolen, get full value. I'll also kick him a little cash.

• 1:38:41Speaker 01

  Well, you just, you just ruined.

• 1:38:43Dax Shepard?

  I did.

• 1:38:43Speaker 01

  Okay, speaking of that, I'm watching Bloodline.

• 1:38:48Dax Shepard?

  Oh, that's a blast from the past. Kyle Chandler?

• 1:38:50Speaker 01

  Yes, so I know, I didn't know, I thought that was like some sort of procedural show.

• 1:38:56Dax Shepard?

  Oh, it's a little bit like, in my memory, it is the, um, full drama version of, of Black, of, of, um, I'm on the show, Bad Monkey.

• 1:39:07Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 1:39:08Dax Shepard?

  Right, it's down in the Keys.

• 1:39:09Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:39:10Dax Shepard?

  It's like a little bit of underbelly scene.

• 1:39:11Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:39:12Dax Shepard?

  Yeah.

• 1:39:13Speaker 01

  It's about a family. Um, but the reason I started that is because I started watching Lanterns. Are you watching Lanterns?

• 1:39:22Dax Shepard?

  No, is it great?

• 1:39:23Speaker 01

  It's great.

• 1:39:23Dax Shepard?

  Oh, good.

• 1:39:25Speaker 01

  It's really, really good. I'm very into it.

• 1:39:28Dax Shepard?

  Rob wants to say something, what is it?

• 1:39:29Speaker 04

  I've been watching that too.

• 1:39:30Dax Shepard?

  You love it?

• 1:39:31Speaker 04

  Yeah, Lanterns is great.

• 1:39:32Speaker 01

  It's so good.

• 1:39:33Dax Shepard?

  Okay, I love Chandler.

• 1:39:34Speaker 01

  I just love him so much. He's so good.

• 1:39:40Dax Shepard?

  Oh, yeah, surprise, surprise.

• 1:39:41Speaker 01

  I mean, I know he's so good, but it's just one of those things that you like, you, you kind of forget and then you see him and you're like, God, he's such a good actor.

• 1:39:49Dax Shepard?

  I saw this very endearing clip of him talking about his scene that he had in Wolf of Wall Street, which he's like, he's in a Scorsese movie.

• 1:39:58Speaker 01

  Uh huh.

• 1:39:59Dax Shepard?

  His first scene is with Leonardo DiCaprio on a boat.

• 1:40:02Speaker 01

  Mm hmm.

• 1:40:03Dax Shepard?

  And he's talking about how his first couple of times he did it, he was being kind of aggressive and mean and he's like, and I, you know, I can, I can tell this isn't it, this isn't it. And I'm starting to like spin a little bit and, and then between takes, like Leo pulled me aside and like, he just, we just chatted about it. And, and, and then the process of talking to him, I realized like, oh no, man, this is so fun for me. I got this guy, like, this is a blast. This isn't angry. It's like, I finally got this motherfucker, I'm gonna, you know? And then, um, and then they do it and it's the thing that's in the movie. And he was just, um, so complimentary about how generous Leo was.

• 1:40:42Speaker 01

  That's nice.

• 1:40:43Dax Shepard?

  Yeah. Cause that's a stressful sitch.

• 1:40:46Speaker 01

  Big time.

• 1:40:47Dax Shepard?

  Yeah.

• 1:40:47Speaker 01

  You know, it's so, it's acting so weird because Kyle Chan, like, when you're telling me this story, and I love Leo, you know I love him.

• 1:40:55Dax Shepard?

  Yeah, how could you not?

• 1:40:56Speaker 01

  I love him.

• 1:40:57Dax Shepard?

  Yeah.

• 1:40:57Speaker 01

  But, you know, acting's so subjective and I'm like, yeah, Kyle Chandler, of course, should be doing a scene with Leonardo DiCaprio. Like, he is as good as him.

• 1:41:09Dax Shepard?

  Right.

• 1:41:09Speaker 01

  It's just the world of like fame and celebrity and leading men and TV versus movies. It like creates all these weird, um, illusions.

• 1:41:21Dax Shepard?

  Also, Kyle is exceptional. He's way, way better of an actor than I am. Also, Leo is better than him. Leo is one of the absolute greats of all time.

• 1:41:32Speaker 01

  I know, but see, this is what, I don't know if that's true. And I'm, I'm, this is all real time. I've never like, been like, oh, yeah, like, he's, I, I, I agree with you. I think he's in an insane.

• 1:41:44Dax Shepard?

  He's Jack Nicholson. He's like our Jack Nicholson.

• 1:41:47Speaker 01

  But I think there are a lot of TV actors.

• 1:41:50Dax Shepard?

  Mm hmm.

• 1:41:50Speaker 01

  That are phenomenal, would be phenomenal film actors.

• 1:41:55Dax Shepard?

  Well, yeah, Kyle being one of them.

• 1:41:57Speaker 01

  They just don't, yeah, they just don't really get that opportunity for reasons having nothing to do with their acting.

• 1:42:03Dax Shepard?

  Sure.

• 1:42:04Speaker 01

  And it's, um, it's just, it's interesting to me.

• 1:42:08Dax Shepard?

  It is, and I want to be clear, I think Kyle is at a hundred percent.

• 1:42:13Speaker 01

  You gotta watch Lanterns.

• 1:42:14Dax Shepard?

  But also, I think Leo is a once in 40 year actor. And I think this is a fun way to think about it.

• 1:42:22Speaker 01

  Mm hmm.

• 1:42:22Dax Shepard?

  I think what's confusing, like when you, I've been starting to think about this way, uh, when I'm trying to evaluate or maybe explain why Max Verstappen's so special. If you're just to watch qualifying, you'll go, oh, wow. You can kind of figure out how good Max is. But even if, if, if, if the cars are dead equal, if his teammate's in the same car, you know, him being better is probably a tenth of a second better. And you go, well, that's not that massive. And it's not on its own. But now you add up, there's 62 laps. Now there's this other huge component on the table. How consistently is Max at his best?

• 1:42:58Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:42:58Dax Shepard?

  And Max somehow, although he might only be a tenth of a second better on one lap, his consistency is a couple of standard deviations above everyone else. So now this gets cumulative.

• 1:43:10Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:43:10Dax Shepard?

  This tiny margin gets really large because of his consistency. And I would say that about Leo. There's no performance that is not insanely memorable and is almost like the top of his career every time out.

• 1:43:24Speaker 01

  Right, but, okay, so this is.

• 1:43:26Dax Shepard?

  And Kyle's just been like really good and serviceable in a couple of things and then like outrageously exceptional in some things.

• 1:43:31Speaker 01

  Well, this is where things get a little tricky though, because.

• 1:43:34Dax Shepard?

  He has the material.

• 1:43:35Speaker 01

  Exactly. He, he's in the position, I mean, this, this is a ding ding ding for a couple of episodes from now, um, expert about leaders and how a good leader comes to be. And a lot of that has to do with factors outside of their own, timing, place.

• 1:43:58Dax Shepard?

  Who's he working with?

• 1:43:59Speaker 01

  Right, like, so when we talk about Leo, it's like, yeah, at this point, like, he is gonna be unreal and everything because he's working with the very best people. He has the agency to say like, I'm not doing that, like, even if it's, you know what I mean? Like, he gets to say no, um, and, yeah.

• 1:44:19Dax Shepard?

  And Max has always a really good car.

• 1:44:21Speaker 01

  Mm hmm.

• 1:44:22Dax Shepard?

  But additionally, it is, it is Leo's impossible, like, each time it's different, each time he hits the mark.

• 1:44:30Speaker 01

  I want to be clear, I love him.

• 1:44:32Dax Shepard?

  Yeah, I mean, he's just really special.

• 1:44:33Speaker 01

  He is, and I feel this way, I mean, we've talked about this. I feel this way about Kristen, like, her and Kyle Chandler, I feel like almost are in this similar category where they're so good.

• 1:44:46Dax Shepard?

  Mm hmm.

• 1:44:46Speaker 01

  That you almost don't notice.

• 1:44:49Dax Shepard?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's, it's not terribly flashy.

• 1:44:51Speaker 01

  Exactly, because it's so natural and, and like charming and I, I don't know, I, I don't know. But I, acting's weird.

• 1:45:00Dax Shepard?

  Again, I'll put Kristen in that, like, the consistency of Kristen is outrageous.

• 1:45:04Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:45:05Dax Shepard?

  Like, it's just, it's a crazy consistency.

• 1:45:07Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:45:07Dax Shepard?

  I'm, you know, I'm, I'm a bit up and down. I've had some really, I think, really good performances. I've had some that are like, they're fine, but a couple not so goods, you know? I feel like I more need the right thing, or I need the right leeway, or you know, I need some things.

• 1:45:25Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:45:26Dax Shepard?

  Yeah.

• 1:45:26Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:45:27Dax Shepard?

  Not Kyle. You put him in anything, he's gonna be, you know, he's gonna be absolutely fantastic.

• 1:45:31Speaker 01

  He's playing Green Lantern, for goodness sakes.

• 1:45:34Dax Shepard?

  Yeah.

• 1:45:35Speaker 01

  It's really good.

• 1:45:36Dax Shepard?

  Can't wait to watch it.

• 1:45:37Speaker 01

  Yeah, you should watch it. But then, yeah, so then I was like, oh, I miss him. I miss Coach.

• 1:45:42Dax Shepard?

  Yeah.

• 1:45:42Speaker 01

  I was like, maybe I'll re-watch Friday Night Lights.

• 1:45:45Dax Shepard?

  Good, I recommend.

• 1:45:45Speaker 01

  Yes, but then Bloodline popped up and I was like, oh, I've never seen this.

• 1:45:49Dax Shepard?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:45:49Speaker 01

  So then I started, so I've been up late.

• 1:45:51Dax Shepard?

  You can feel the humidity in the show.

• 1:45:53Speaker 01

  You really, really can.

• 1:45:55Dax Shepard?

  Which is cool.

• 1:45:56Speaker 01

  Yeah. Um, I'm almost done with season one. I really wanna know.

• 1:46:02Dax Shepard?

  We're on episode three of Furious.

• 1:46:05Speaker 01

  Oh, I told you.

• 1:46:06Dax Shepard?

  Can't believe how great it is.

• 1:46:08Speaker 01

  It's a perfect show.

• 1:46:09Dax Shepard?

  Who is the lead actress in it?

• 1:46:12Speaker 01

  Emmy Rossum.

• 1:46:12Dax Shepard?

  Other than Emmy, the, the, the.

• 1:46:14Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:46:15Dax Shepard?

  What's her name?

• 1:46:15Speaker 04

  Lola Pettigrew.

• 1:46:16Dax Shepard?

  Okay, that, she's, she.

• 1:46:19Speaker 01

  I know.

• 1:46:20Dax Shepard?

  She's a phenom.

• 1:46:21Speaker 01

  I know, she's incredible.

• 1:46:22Dax Shepard?

  Whoa.

• 1:46:22Speaker 01

  She's incredible.

• 1:46:23Dax Shepard?

  My god, is she exciting to watch.

• 1:46:25Speaker 01

  Can you believe that is Liz Merriweather? Can you believe it?

• 1:46:30Dax Shepard?

  I need to send her a text and I'm like, I know she's just being in a day, you know, like when you get the avalanche of that, but I still need to, cause who cares?

• 1:46:38Speaker 01

  Just a reminder, Dex worked for Liz. Bless His Mess was Liz's show.

• 1:46:42Dax Shepard?

  Totally a lot different than Bless His Mess.

• 1:46:44Speaker 01

  And New Girl, like, I, I cannot believe, and I, I'm like, a, I think New Girl is one of the best TV comedies, and so good. I think she's so good, and I cannot believe she wrote that and this. They are so different.

• 1:47:00Dax Shepard?

  Yeah.

• 1:47:01Speaker 01

  And this show is, uh, wait till you finish, I mean, my god.

• 1:47:07Dax Shepard?

  Yeah, she's like a Juno Temple kind of pop-off-the-screen discovery.

• 1:47:12Speaker 01

  Oh, the, yeah.

• 1:47:13Dax Shepard?

  Actor, yeah.

• 1:47:14Speaker 01

  Yeah. The, all of the acting in that show is really insanely good. The other cop is, I mean, all the cops are great.

• 1:47:23Dax Shepard?

  Yeah.

• 1:47:24Speaker 01

  Jake Lacy, like, it's, it's, it's a highly recommended show. It is dark. I know a few people who were like, I can't watch it.

• 1:47:31Dax Shepard?

  Too much for them.

• 1:47:32Speaker 01

  A little much for them.

• 1:47:33Dax Shepard?

  Yeah.

• 1:47:33Speaker 01

  Um, but.

• 1:47:34Dax Shepard?

  Rossum's hair, though.

• 1:47:35Speaker 01

  Uh, yeah, she has great hair.

• 1:47:37Dax Shepard?

  Whoa.

• 1:47:37Speaker 01

  She has great hair.

• 1:47:38Dax Shepard?

  What a head of hair.

• 1:47:39Speaker 01

  She has great hair.

• 1:47:40Dax Shepard?

  My god.

• 1:47:41Speaker 01

  Um, and she's incredible.

• 1:47:42Dax Shepard?

  She should have been in one of the mermaids.

• 1:47:46Speaker 01

  In my commercial?

• 1:47:46Dax Shepard?

  Yep. Yep, that was a, that was short-sighted on their part.

• 1:47:51Speaker 01

  Well, I probably would have been recast.

• 1:47:53Dax Shepard?

  No, you would have been in. You had the best hair in the commercial.

• 1:47:55Speaker 01

  Thank you. Well, one of them was definitely cast because her face, like, she loo, she's, well, both of them are gorgeous, but the, but one of them looks like a mermaid, like, she looks like not of this planet.

• 1:48:09Dax Shepard?

  Yeah, sure. She looks aquatic.

• 1:48:11Speaker 01

  And then she was cast in Westwood after that.

• 1:48:14Dax Shepard?

  Okay.

• 1:48:14Speaker 01

  So I don't, I didn't watch that show, but I assumed.

• 1:48:16Dax Shepard?

  Did she play an aquatic in that one?

• 1:48:18Speaker 01

  I think she played a non-person.

• 1:48:19Dax Shepard?

  Oh, right.

• 1:48:20Speaker 01

  Aren't people not, yeah, middle.

• 1:48:21Dax Shepard?

  There they are.

• 1:48:22Speaker 01

  Yeah. You can't really see her face, but her eyes are like.

• 1:48:26Dax Shepard?

  I mean, Monica, you're, you can see objectively, your hair is the most banging, right?

• 1:48:30Speaker 01

  No, don't do that.

• 1:48:32Dax Shepard?

  Rob?

• 1:48:34Speaker 04

  Yeah, I think it was the best hair on that.

• 1:48:35Dax Shepard?

  Yeah, absolutely. You have more, um, more action going. Everyone's got more volume than any human should have. That, that's already like, how the fuck does everyone have this much volume?

• 1:48:45Speaker 01

  The product does.

• 1:48:46Dax Shepard?

  But some of the other volume looks a little blown out volume. Yours looks like, oh no, there's pieces in that volume.

• 1:48:52Speaker 01

  Those shells were glued to my boobs.

• 1:48:55Dax Shepard?

  Uh, you know what? This is a testament to your hair. I hadn't even noticed you had shell. Yeah, yeah. That's, that's definitely a testament to the hair.

• 1:49:02Speaker 01

  Yep, yep.

• 1:49:02Dax Shepard?

  No clue.

• 1:49:03Speaker 01

  Well, they were glued.

• 1:49:04Dax Shepard?

  Okay. Everyone had glued?

• 1:49:07Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 1:49:08Dax Shepard?

  Okay, great.

• 1:49:09Speaker 01

  And then, oof, those suits. Once you got in the suit, you couldn't get out of the suit. So you couldn't pee, you couldn't do anything on.

• 1:49:16Dax Shepard?

  Could you just pee in the water? Or was there really no water involved?

• 1:49:19Speaker 01

  There was water, but that was at the end of the, like, the shoot itself was at the end. It's like, very, and the first part was on a rock. It was a 17-hour day and a 19-hour day.

• 1:49:29Dax Shepard?

  Wow. Well, it paid off.

• 1:49:32Speaker 01

  Paid off. It paid the bills, too.

• 1:49:34Dax Shepard?

  Everyone put in the work and it shows.

• 1:49:39Speaker 03

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• 1:49:45Dax Shepard?

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• 1:50:28Dax Shepard?

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• 1:50:40Speaker 01

  Speaking of me and my looks.

• 1:50:43Dax Shepard?

  Yeah.

• 1:50:44Speaker 01

  Um, I have a big bruise on my chin. It's covered. It's covered right now. You probably can see a little bit poking out.

• 1:50:51Dax Shepard?

  Can't see it.

• 1:50:52Speaker 01

  Um, but people might see it on some episodes.

• 1:50:54Dax Shepard?

  Okay.

• 1:50:55Speaker 01

  Um, it is from filler.

• 1:50:57Dax Shepard?

  Okay.

• 1:50:57Speaker 01

  I'm happy to say that.

• 1:50:59Dax Shepard?

  Yeah, great.

• 1:50:59Speaker 01

  It's, um, chin filler. I had chin filler before. I've talked about that, but it faded. That was a couple of years ago.

• 1:51:06Dax Shepard?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:51:07Speaker 01

  So I, uh, got a little re-up.

• 1:51:10Dax Shepard?

  Topped off the tank.

• 1:51:10Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:51:11Dax Shepard?

  Yeah, nice.

• 1:51:12Speaker 01

  And I have an AI bruised.

• 1:51:14Dax Shepard?

  Well, you know, you gotta pay.

• 1:51:16Speaker 01

  It's funny because the first time, I, it didn't bruise, and so I was really arrogant about it.

• 1:51:20Dax Shepard?

  Uh-huh.

• 1:51:21Speaker 01

  Because he told me, he was like, you know, do this and this, be careful, like, for bruising. He was like, did you bruise last time? I said, no.

• 1:51:30Dax Shepard?

  Yeah, I don't bruise.

• 1:51:31Speaker 01

  Yeah, and I should have known better, cause I've been getting a lot of bruises lately.

• 1:51:34Dax Shepard?

  I don't fard, I don't bruise, uh, I don't pee.

• 1:51:37Speaker 01

  I don't pee anything.

• 1:51:38Dax Shepard?

  I'm not sure I'm alive, uh.

• 1:51:40Speaker 01

  I do bruise now.

• 1:51:41Dax Shepard?

  Okay, congratulations.

• 1:51:42Speaker 01

  Okay, um, so I'm a real girl, and I, yeah, and it's been like a lot of days, and it's fading, but it's still there.

• 1:51:52Dax Shepard?

  Okay.

• 1:51:53Speaker 01

  And then, of course, so I was talking to my family this weekend. First, my brother on FaceTime. You know, we're like, he's telling me the story and it's kind of like intense, and then he's like, what's wrong with your chin? I was like, oh.

• 1:52:07Dax Shepard?

  Yeah, sibling.

• 1:52:08Speaker 01

  Yeah, exactly. And I was like, oh, and he's like, did you fall?

• 1:52:10Dax Shepard?

  Did you fart?

• 1:52:11Speaker 01

  Then I, yeah, exactly. Did you fart so hard that you broke all the blood vessels?

• 1:52:16Dax Shepard?

  You're disgusting, like, you're, yeah, siblings will really let you know.

• 1:52:18Speaker 01

  Yeah, and I was like, it's filler. And I didn't even wanna explain, you know, I was like, and he was like, okay. And then he just moved on with the story.

• 1:52:25Dax Shepard?

  Oh, good, good.

• 1:52:26Speaker 01

  And then again, when I talked to my parents, you know, obviously the same thing, their reaction is less.

• 1:52:30Dax Shepard?

  They're more judgmental.

• 1:52:31Speaker 01

  Yeah, they were like, wow.

• 1:52:33Dax Shepard?

  Yeah.

• 1:52:33Speaker 01

  It's like, yeah, well, listen.

• 1:52:35Dax Shepard?

  Hey, I'm on here on these streets.

• 1:52:37Speaker 01

  And then I learned something, I don't know, if, is this like bad to say?

• 1:52:40Dax Shepard?

  Okay.

• 1:52:41Speaker 01

  But, so my cousin was visiting.

• 1:52:43Dax Shepard?

  Uh-huh. Your parents?

• 1:52:45Speaker 01

  Yeah, was visiting my parents and my brother and the baby. Um, and so she was on FaceTime as well. And she, so she also noted the filler, and then she was like, Monica, you don't need to do that. And I was like, whatever. And then she was like, well, she's, uh, my cousin is the daughter of my aunt who drowned last year. Yes, who passed. And, uh, and she said, well, she's gone now, so I guess I can spill her secrets. She had a chin implant.

• 1:53:15Dax Shepard?

  Nice, there you go.

• 1:53:16Speaker 01

  And then I felt so, like, in touch with the universe. I was like, yes.

• 1:53:24Dax Shepard?

  You guys are very, it's just another thing that you're similar and.

• 1:53:27Speaker 01

  She, you know, I share her name, my middle name, I'm named after her, and, um.

• 1:53:32Dax Shepard?

  You're both weak swimmers.

• 1:53:33Speaker 01

  Yeah. Oh.

• 1:53:36Dax Shepard?

  Sorry, not enough time?

• 1:53:45Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:53:47Dax Shepard?

  Apparently just the right amount of time, cause you're like, it's, that's good laugh or you're scared to laugh.

• 1:53:52Speaker 01

  Yeah, I'm scared, but it's true. Um, no, but she thought she had a weak chin like me.

• 1:53:58Dax Shepard?

  Uh-huh.

• 1:53:59Speaker 01

  It's like, we both, we both like took things into our own hands, you know?

• 1:54:02Dax Shepard?

  Well, you know, I think there's, you're in a tricky situation when you find out somebody, they go like, hey, I'm gonna get a nose job, or I just got a nose job, or whatever it is.

• 1:54:09Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:54:10Dax Shepard?

  I think your impulse is to let them know that you think they look great, right? Like, if you're, you wanna comfort them and alleviate, like, you don't need to do that, like, but it can feel very judgmental.

• 1:54:25Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 1:54:26Dax Shepard?

  That, that, that statement.

• 1:54:28Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:54:28Dax Shepard?

  I think if you're, if you're nervous, people are gonna be judgmental, let, you're too vain, or whatever your thing is. This act of kind of trying to be compassionate

• 1:54:39Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:54:40Dax Shepard?

  can get read as judgment.

• 1:54:42Speaker 01

  It is so dependent on who's saying it.

• 1:54:45Dax Shepard?

  Yeah.

• 1:54:45Speaker 01

  It is, it is solely dependent on that. Like, I know my parents aren't like, no, you're so pretty without it. They're just like, ah, like, don't, why don't you do that? Yeah, yeah, exactly. But then they also don't really care either.

• 1:55:01Dax Shepard?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:55:01Speaker 01

  But, and then there are people in my life who would say, like, you, you didn't need to do that, that I believe are, they're giving me a compliment, like, they really are giving me a compliment. I don't feel judged like I'm vain.

• 1:55:20Speaker 01

  By too many people, because I'm really not. Like, I don't like my face, but that is just what it is. So I don't. And I like shopping, but I don't think that's vain, is it? Maybe some people would say it is.

• 1:55:35Dax Shepard?

  Shopping or the, or your face?

• 1:55:37Speaker 01

  All of it, I guess.

• 1:55:38Dax Shepard?

  Everything in one package?

• 1:55:40Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:55:40Dax Shepard?

  Okay.

• 1:55:40Speaker 01

  No one's unaware of their face. Like, you're lying, you're lying if you're saying when you look in the mirror, you're not like taking in what you're looking at. I mean, if you're then obsessing about it and then like, you know, I, if I were really vain, I would be doing hair and makeup before this every day.

• 1:56:01Dax Shepard?

  It's funny you'd say that because I saw a comment that said, Dax wears eyeliner, no? And I wrote, no, but also, wouldn't it be crazy if I'm not wearing makeup? I don't do my hair, yet I'm putting eyeliner on? I mean, just on primifacia on the surface. I've picked a very weird thing to spend a lot of time on.

• 1:56:24Speaker 01

  Maybe they think you're trying to look punk.

• 1:56:27Dax Shepard?

  Okay, Goth?

• 1:56:28Speaker 01

  Yeah, Goth.

• 1:56:29Dax Shepard?

  But I was never Goth. But still, I've not ever applied eyeliner, but it seems tedious.

• 1:56:35Speaker 01

  It's not the easiest thing to apply.

• 1:56:37Dax Shepard?

  It'd be easier to do my hair, right? And like, if I'm trying to look better, if I just did my hair, that would be

• 1:56:43Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:56:43Dax Shepard?

  more time efficient.

• 1:56:44Speaker 01

  It's obvious that we aren't putting in very much effort when we come and stay here, look wise.

• 1:56:50Dax Shepard?

  Well, we can't.

• 1:56:51Speaker 01

  We can't.

• 1:56:51Dax Shepard?

  We can't. There's not enough time.

• 1:56:53Speaker 01

  Exactly. Look, by, like, at first, when we started video, I was like, okay, I'm gonna have to, and then

• 1:56:58Dax Shepard?

  Pick up the

• 1:56:59Speaker 01

  Can't. We do this too often.

• 1:57:02Dax Shepard?

  You know, I think it's healthy ultimately, like, because there's not enough time it forces you to not care.

• 1:57:08Speaker 01

  I agree. So the whole point of what I'm saying is I really just don't think I'm vain. People would get up an hour early and like, I have not brushed my hair

• 1:57:18Dax Shepard?

  This year.

• 1:57:19Speaker 01

  in a year. Like, somebody else is doing my hair for an event. Exactly. And that's just, that's fine. So I guess I, like, this circles back to the thing you talk about all the time. I'm not insecure about being vain.

• 1:57:32Dax Shepard?

  Right.

• 1:57:33Speaker 01

  So if somebody was like, oh, they're vain, I'd be like, oh, you just like, really don't know me.

• 1:57:37Dax Shepard?

  Yeah. Or also, okay. Like, there's another level of it, which is like, I can accept, but by your definition, I'm that thing.

• 1:57:45Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:57:46Dax Shepard?

  And that's fine. I have a different definition. I'm not even trying to argue you out of your definition, right? Like, when people call me a misogynist sometimes, and I'm like, I'm like, okay, you have a definition of misogynist that's different than mine?

• 1:57:59Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:58:00Dax Shepard?

  Obviously, I don't think I'm a misogynist. Uh, but whatever.

• 1:58:03Speaker 01

  Well, part of it is like, I guess I don't even, on the scale of things I think are bad, vanity is not high up on the list for me. Like, even on other people too. Yeah, of the movie Seven, our favorite movie.

• 1:58:18Dax Shepard?

  You put it at seventh?

• 1:58:19Speaker 01

  I, um, okay, let's go over them. This is fun.

• 1:58:23Dax Shepard?

  Vanity?

• 1:58:23Speaker 01

  Uh, vanity, greed.

• 1:58:26Dax Shepard?

  Greed, sloth.

• 1:58:28Speaker 01

  Um, lust.

• 1:58:29Dax Shepard?

  Lust.

• 1:58:31Speaker 01

  Uh, vengeance.

• 1:58:33Dax Shepard?

  Vengeance.

• 1:58:34Speaker 01

  And, um, don't tell us, Rob, I want to get it.

• 1:58:39Speaker 01

  Okay, but, uh, gluttony.

• 1:58:40Dax Shepard?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:58:42Speaker 01

  And, um.

• 1:58:44Dax Shepard?

  Envy or jealousy?

• 1:58:45Speaker 01

  Say that or no? Yeah.

• 1:58:47Dax Shepard?

  Yeah, yeah, because that was him, right? He envied Brad Pitt.

• 1:58:52Speaker 01

  Oh, my God, what a movie.

• 1:58:55Dax Shepard?

  Yeah, I put vanity at the bottom of that list.

• 1:58:56Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:58:57Dax Shepard?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:58:58Speaker 01

  Who cares?

• 1:58:59Dax Shepard?

  Yeah.

• 1:58:59Speaker 01

  Because it does, it only affects the person.

• 1:59:02Dax Shepard?

  Correct.

• 1:59:02Speaker 01

  So who cares?

• 1:59:04Dax Shepard?

  That's right.

• 1:59:05Speaker 01

  How would you rank them? What's the worst one, do you think?

• 1:59:11Dax Shepard?

  I've already forgotten the whole list.

• 1:59:12Speaker 01

  Lust, greed. Also, lust is low for me.

• 1:59:16Dax Shepard?

  I'd be dead without lust. Like, that's my fuel system.

• 1:59:19Speaker 01

  Hey, you're like, that's a virtue.

• 1:59:20Dax Shepard?

  Yes, exactly. That's one of my virtues. I'm lusty for everything, for life, for food, for adventure.

• 1:59:26Speaker 01

  Pride, excessive belief in one's own abilities or importance.

• 1:59:30Dax Shepard?

  Okay, that's a virtue. Not the importance part.

• 1:59:34Speaker 01

  Well, yeah, that's, I think this is, this is a good list because it's saying the negative, it is saying the negative parts of it. Because obviously, there are good things about some of these. So excessive belief in one's own abilities or importance. Greed, a strong selfish desire for wealth or goods. Lust.

• 1:59:50Dax Shepard?

  Guilty.

• 1:59:50Speaker 01

  An intense or unbridled craving for sexual pleasure.

• 1:59:54Dax Shepard?

  Yeah.

• 1:59:54Speaker 01

  Envy.

• 1:59:55Dax Shepard?

  Guilty.

• 1:59:56Speaker 01

  Envy, sadness or jealousy regarding another person's traits or successes.

• 2:00:00Dax Shepard?

  Don't suffer from that.

• 2:00:02Speaker 01

  Gluttony, overindulging in food, drink, or other items. Wrath, uncontrolled feelings of anger, hatred, or rage. Sloth, laziness, apathy, or failure to act when you should.

• 2:00:13Dax Shepard?

  Yeah, I would not want to suffer from sloth the most. I probably don't want wrath around me the most, like in someone else. Wrath or envy.

• 2:00:24Speaker 01

  Oh, so vanity is pride, then?

• 2:00:27Dax Shepard?

  It must be. In Seven, he cut off her nose, right?

• 2:00:30Speaker 01

  Despite her face.

• 2:00:31Dax Shepard?

  And I felt like they

• 2:00:32Speaker 01

  They're making it sound like she was obsessed, yeah.

• 2:00:34Dax Shepard?

  But maybe he wrote Pride and Blood, maybe? He must have.

• 2:00:38Speaker 01

  Oh, it's such a good

• 2:00:39Dax Shepard?

  Yeah, I gotta give it a rewatch.

• 2:00:40Speaker 01

  I know.

• 2:00:41Dax Shepard?

  That's what that means.

• 2:00:41Speaker 01

  I, now, in my house, I have put up some art, you know, and some paintings, and I think all the, like, a lot about the scene in that movie for that sin where he turns the painting upside down, and that's how they discover, they're like, oh, in this picture, this painting's upside down. So then they take the painting off and then that, and so I'm always thinking about turning a painting upside down as a clue.

• 2:01:08Dax Shepard?

  Yeah, I just want mortal sin.

• 2:01:10Speaker 01

  Yeah. I think the worst one's wrath. I mean, it's like, kind of the most obvious worst one.

• 2:01:17Dax Shepard?

  I think it's really, um, specific to you. So like, of course, wrath doesn't bother me so much because I feel equipped to deal with wrath, if that makes sense.

• 2:01:28Speaker 01

  Other people?

• 2:01:29Dax Shepard?

  Yeah, like, if someone else is rageful around me, I'm okay in that situation.

• 2:01:34Speaker 01

  Right.

• 2:01:35Dax Shepard?

  If someone is like, envious of me and they wish me

• 2:01:41Speaker 01

  Bad.

• 2:01:41Dax Shepard?

  ill, and we're friends, I don't know what to do with it. I don't know how to defend myself against that.

• 2:01:48Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 2:01:49Dax Shepard?

  Um, yeah. Again, I don't know how sloth or gluttony affects me, like, if someone else has it.

• 2:01:56Speaker 01

  Right. Well, yeah, that's true.

• 2:01:59Dax Shepard?

  Like, they're just on their own little

• 2:02:00Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:02:01Dax Shepard?

  slow mission.

• 2:02:02Speaker 01

  That's why wrath, to me, has the most outward, um, and envy, you're right. Wrath and envy probably have the most outward impact.

• 2:02:11Dax Shepard?

  Yeah.

• 2:02:12Speaker 01

  Maybe lust, if it's like raping. I think this is kind of like, lust is supposed to be rapey.

• 2:02:18Dax Shepard?

  Okay.

• 2:02:19Speaker 01

  You know, maybe.

• 2:02:21Dax Shepard?

  We could agree on that.

• 2:02:22Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:02:23Dax Shepard?

  But back to envy, I think people, I think everyone has experienced this.

• 2:02:27Speaker 01

  Greed is pretty, greed, greed out of control can be very bad, but go on.

• 2:02:31Dax Shepard?

  Yeah, I think, uh, if you are stuck in a greed cycle, it's very bad for you.

• 2:02:37Speaker 01

  Well, yeah, yeah.

• 2:02:39Dax Shepard?

  Right? Um, okay, but, but envy, like, even, this happens a lot between friends. Like, there's two friends, they both like the same person, whether it's even expressed or not.

• 2:02:51Speaker 01

  Uh-huh.

• 2:02:52Dax Shepard?

  And then one person gets that person. And the dynamic that happens

• 2:02:57Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:02:58Dax Shepard?

  almost without anyone's control.

• 2:03:00Speaker 01

  Of course.

• 2:03:01Dax Shepard?

  Is the person who didn't get them, there's a new lens over their eyes when they look at their friend.

• 2:03:07Speaker 01

  Sure. I mean, I think that's very human.

• 2:03:11Dax Shepard?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 2:03:12Speaker 01

  Um.

• 2:03:13Dax Shepard?

  Like, all these are, right? They're all like

• 2:03:14Speaker 01

  Well, of course.

• 2:03:15Dax Shepard?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 2:03:15Speaker 01

  Maybe part of it is you see, well, yes, I mean, obviously, you, you see a lot of things. You see the good things about them that you don't have, obviously. I mean, in this case, it's a good case because it's literally you or them.

• 2:03:29Dax Shepard?

  Uh-huh, and, and, yeah.

• 2:03:31Speaker 01

  And it's you as your person.

• 2:03:32Dax Shepard?

  They have the thing you want.

• 2:03:34Speaker 01

  I think it's actually less about that middle person that people like than it is about the feeling it brings up in you, right? Where it's inadequate. Ultimately, it's inadequacy. And, um, and then you have a direct person to look at to say like, okay, they have this, I don't have this. They have, I have this bad thing, they have this good thing, or, and, you're like, well, they have all this bad stuff, so why would they get picked? Like, all, you know, you just go down the list.

• 2:04:09Dax Shepard?

  I think what envy creates is the, um, the end of empathy and compassion towards that person. So it's like, once your friend has this girl or boy that you want more than anything, you're really now incapable of feeling bad for them about anything. Because like, yeah, but they have the thing I want. Like, whatever they're going through, I'd be happy to go through that to have the thing I want. So you can't really feel bad for them. I mean, it's very like, human nature.

• 2:04:41Speaker 01

  I don't know. I think it depends, it probably depends on the scenario.

• 2:04:44Dax Shepard?

  You hear it all the time. It's like, who cares? They're rich, right? It's like, well, who cares? They're rich.

• 2:04:48Speaker 01

  Right, that's crazy. But that's not a friend. That often happens.

• 2:04:52Dax Shepard?

  But that is a, that is an, uh, an example of lack of empathy, where it's like, I mean, I'm incapable of acknowledging this person has, um, some discomfort or unpleasantness because they're rich. What, who cares?

• 2:05:07Speaker 01

  Right. A lot of people do feel like, who cares? But

• 2:05:09Dax Shepard?

  Or they're famous, who cares? Or they're beautiful, who cares?

• 2:05:13Speaker 01

  Yeah, a lot of people do feel that way.

• 2:05:15Dax Shepard?

  Oh, boo hoo, she's beautiful.

• 2:05:17Speaker 01

  I know, but that's, yeah.

• 2:05:19Dax Shepard?

  That's envy.

• 2:05:19Speaker 01

  I know. I mean, that's part of, when I'm listening to pop culture podcasts and that, like, it's all this negative take on people in the zeitgeist, right? And I think the rationale is, yeah, duh, they're famous, or they're this. So like, it's okay to talk negatively about them.

• 2:05:39Dax Shepard?

  Well, anytime boo hoo follows anything, that's your clue of like, what they have that you now are incapable of empathy.

• 2:05:48Speaker 01

  Right. So, but that's so, and I hate that. Like, I'm always like, they're a person. Like, at the end of the day, what do you mean? Like?

• 2:05:57Dax Shepard?

  Yeah.

• 2:05:57Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah.

• 2:05:58Dax Shepard?

  But I, I, I, I experience it, you know? Like, I, I, I am aware of when I'm doing it.

• 2:06:07Dax Shepard?

  Or it's just like, yeah, well, boo hoo, it's, they still have a hundred billion dollars, or

• 2:06:13Speaker 01

  Right.

• 2:06:13Dax Shepard?

  boo hoo, there's

• 2:06:15Speaker 01

  But it's like, yeah, if they're complaining about

• 2:06:19Speaker 01

  Not having enough money and they have a hundred billion dollars, then you could say boo hoo.

• 2:06:23Dax Shepard?

  What I'm saying is if, if, if Jeff Bezos fell down a staircase very publicly and broke his femur.

• 2:06:30Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:06:30Dax Shepard?

  I think the general reaction would be like, well, boo hoo, he's still got a hundred billion dollars.

• 2:06:35Speaker 01

  That's crazy.

• 2:06:36Dax Shepard?

  I think that would be the standard reaction though. Cause you'd go like, yeah, I'd break my femur to have a hundred, but you start doing all this math that makes no sense. Yes, it doesn't. That's, that's envy.

• 2:06:46Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 2:06:47Dax Shepard?

  Like, none of it makes any sense.

• 2:06:48Speaker 01

  And I think envy is the worst one then.

• 2:06:51Dax Shepard?

  That's what I was saying. I think it kills compassion.

• 2:06:54Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:06:55Dax Shepard?

  And it kills empathy.

• 2:06:57Speaker 01

  Does too. Anger does too. Unbridled anger is, um.

• 2:07:03Dax Shepard?

  Yeah, where you want to hurt somebody.

• 2:07:05Speaker 01

  Yeah, but you also, it, it warps reality. You can't see reality clearly in the way that you probably can't if you're envious.

• 2:07:14Dax Shepard?

  Right.

• 2:07:16Speaker 01

  All right. Well, that was great.

• 2:07:18Dax Shepard?

  What a good detour. Want to do some facts?

• 2:07:20Speaker 01

  Yeah, I do. This is for Joey.

• 2:07:22Dax Shepard?

  I love her.

• 2:07:23Speaker 01

  Yeah, she's fantastic.

• 2:07:24Dax Shepard?

  I love her. She's so fun.

• 2:07:26Speaker 01

  She's a fun gal. Okay. She was right about our outfits from last time.

• 2:07:31Dax Shepard?

  No way.

• 2:07:32Speaker 01

  Yep, that I wore a yellow skirt and a yellow sweater and you wore a God's true cashmere.

• 2:07:37Dax Shepard?

  Whoa.

• 2:07:38Speaker 01

  Okay, are pennies being taken out of circulation? Yes.

• 2:07:42Dax Shepard?

  Oh, thank God.

• 2:07:43Speaker 01

  The US government stopped producing new pennies, but existing pennies remain legal tender and are gradually phasing out of everyday circulation. Now, this is interesting because what if the penny now becomes worth?

• 2:07:55Dax Shepard?

  A fortune?

• 2:07:55Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:07:57Dax Shepard?

  There's too many. There's just, there's not the, they're not finite enough.

• 2:08:02Speaker 01

  I'm keeping mine.

• 2:08:03Dax Shepard?

  Good.

• 2:08:04Speaker 01

  Keeping my pennies. Um.

• 2:08:06Dax Shepard?

  They're worth more as a metal than they are as their currency value.

• 2:08:12Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:08:13Dax Shepard?

  They costed more to produce than they're worth. Not a great model.

• 2:08:17Speaker 01

  You said that Kristen accident or said, uh, she said a thousand paper cuts sinks the ship.

• 2:08:24Dax Shepard?

  Yeah, sometimes a thousand paper cuts sinks the ship.

• 2:08:27Speaker 01

  And we, we do know it's death by a thousand paper cuts is the correct.

• 2:08:32Dax Shepard?

  Or loose lips sink ships.

• 2:08:34Speaker 01

  Oh, she's combining.

• 2:08:35Dax Shepard?

  Sure, of course. I think that's generally what's happening is people are.

• 2:08:39Speaker 01

  I see.

• 2:08:39Dax Shepard?

  Weaving together a couple of different cliches.

• 2:08:43Speaker 01

  Um, I like death by a thousand paper cuts because that one makes very clear sense.

• 2:08:48Dax Shepard?

  Yes.

• 2:08:48Speaker 01

  You know?

• 2:08:49Dax Shepard?

  Yeah.

• 2:08:49Speaker 01

  Um, okay. So I looked up some common idioms and meanings.

• 2:08:53Dax Shepard?

  Okay.

• 2:08:53Speaker 01

  A piece of cake.

• 2:08:55Dax Shepard?

  That's easy.

• 2:08:55Speaker 01

  Yeah, but I still don't always under, it's like, okay, it's something very easy to do. What, why is a piece of cake easy to do?

• 2:09:03Dax Shepard?

  It was very easy to eat a piece of cake.

• 2:09:05Speaker 01

  To eat, not to make.

• 2:09:07Dax Shepard?

  No, not to make at all.

• 2:09:09Speaker 01

  Okay. So it's just like, it's as easy, it's as easy as eating it.

• 2:09:12Dax Shepard?

  You haven't to twist a kid's arm to eat a slice of cake or anybody's arm.

• 2:09:16Speaker 01

  Um, okay. Break the ice. We know that means make people more comfortable. Why?

• 2:09:21Dax Shepard?

  That's a good icebreaker.

• 2:09:22Speaker 01

  Maybe because it's like.

• 2:09:23Dax Shepard?

  They're, they're frozen.

• 2:09:25Speaker 01

  Hardened and.

• 2:09:26Dax Shepard?

  And you free them from this shell of ice.

• 2:09:29Speaker 01

  Yeah. Okay. Great.

• 2:09:30Dax Shepard?

  Right.

• 2:09:31Speaker 01

  Um, cost an arm and a leg. Just that, that would be a lot. Yeah. Um.

• 2:09:36Dax Shepard?

  Do you remember Sideris' joke?

• 2:09:38Speaker 01

  No.

• 2:09:39Dax Shepard?

  Okay. He, you know, he gathers jokes. He asked people to tell him jokes. One of the jokes was, um, God came to Adam and he said, I can make you the most beautiful, um, mate. She will be, um, super smart and super capable and very loving and very nurturing. And, uh, it's going to cost you an eye, one kidney and your right leg.

• 2:10:07Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 2:10:08Dax Shepard?

  And then Adam said, what can I get for a rib?

• 2:10:13Speaker 01

  I don't get it.

• 2:10:14Dax Shepard?

  Do you know that Eve was made from one of Adam's ribs?

• 2:10:17Speaker 01

  Oh, so it's saying Eve sucks.

• 2:10:18Dax Shepard?

  That, that he, like, he didn't want to give up that much. And he's like, well, what can I get for a rib?

• 2:10:23Speaker 01

  Right.

• 2:10:24Dax Shepard?

  That's what we got. Pretty funny joke. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You got, did he get a little mad for a second?

• 2:10:29Speaker 01

  Mad? No.

• 2:10:30Dax Shepard?

  Oh, okay.

• 2:10:31Speaker 01

  Should I be mad?

• 2:10:32Dax Shepard?

  No, I just, I thought you were, you were offended for a second.

• 2:10:34Speaker 01

  Uh-uh. I don't even really see why I'd be offended. Maybe I don't get it.

• 2:10:38Dax Shepard?

  Okay.

• 2:10:39Speaker 01

  Oh, cause like, oh, cause women come from Eve, so Eve sucks.

• 2:10:42Dax Shepard?

  Well, no, just that there was this amazing Eve offered, but it was going to cost him an eye, a kidney and a leg. And then he's like, well, what can I get for a rib?

• 2:10:50Speaker 01

  I mean, I, yeah, I get it. That's a lot to give up.

• 2:10:55Dax Shepard?

  Yeah.

• 2:10:56Speaker 01

  I don't think I'd give that up for a partner.

• 2:10:59Dax Shepard?

  No, any partners.

• 2:11:00Speaker 01

  You shouldn't.

• 2:11:01Dax Shepard?

  No.

• 2:11:02Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 2:11:03Dax Shepard?

  This was just asked to, oh, Eric and Charlie and I were talking and, and Eric said, in school, if a girl liked you, did you like her back? Or did you tend to only like the girls that didn't like you?

• 2:11:19Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:11:19Dax Shepard?

  Cause Eric was admitting that was kind of his thing.

• 2:11:22Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:11:22Dax Shepard?

  And I said, no, I liked everyone that liked me, liked me, you know, like.

• 2:11:27Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's a good quality.

• 2:11:28Dax Shepard?

  Yeah, like, I know I like, and Charlie was like, same. Anyone who liked me, I liked.

• 2:11:33Speaker 01

  That's great.

• 2:11:33Dax Shepard?

  Pretty much. But this is that. You'd be fine with whatever. That's the point of that. You're fine with whatever.

• 2:11:39Speaker 01

  Yeah, but also it's like, no, it shouldn't cost you your own, like, personhood to have a partner. That's sort of my take on it.

• 2:11:49Dax Shepard?

  Okay, great. Yeah, we've both run it through our filters. That makes sense, what you're saying.

• 2:11:54Speaker 01

  And now, under the weather, it's like, why? Cause it's sunny out and so you're feeling gloomy, but gloomy is sickness.

• 2:12:00Dax Shepard?

  No, generally weather is, when people go, there's weather, I think they're talking about rain generally or snow or wind. So if you're under a cloud, basically is what they're saying.

• 2:12:11Speaker 01

  A cloud.

• 2:12:12Dax Shepard?

  Yeah, like, oh, there's weather. Sunny, I don't know why, but sunny and no clouds in the sky is not weather.

• 2:12:19Speaker 01

  It is to me.

• 2:12:20Dax Shepard?

  Sure. California weather.

• 2:12:22Speaker 01

  Yeah. Okay. Let the cat out of the bag is interesting because obviously it's like, you know, secrets are being spilled.

• 2:12:29Dax Shepard?

  Uh-huh.

• 2:12:30Speaker 01

  But like, why is a cat, first of all, why is he in a bag?

• 2:12:34Dax Shepard?

  Yeah, why are you hiding the cat?

• 2:12:35Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:12:36Dax Shepard?

  In a bag.

• 2:12:36Speaker 01

  Yep. That's animal. Oh God, did you see?

• 2:12:41Dax Shepard?

  Uh-oh.

• 2:12:42Speaker 01

  Did you see a, a fashion show recently, a couple of days ago? PETA like infiltrated and then they were like walking down the runway scream, like screaming and then they're, it was.

• 2:12:55Dax Shepard?

  They're unhinged.

• 2:12:57Speaker 01

  I, it did, I was like, look, you are not doing your cause any favors. All it does is make me feel like you guys are crazy and weird and I have no. Yeah, I have no compassion for you.

• 2:13:10Dax Shepard?

  Self-righteous, self-indulgent. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 2:13:14Speaker 01

  Oh, I hated that.

• 2:13:15Dax Shepard?

  Yeah.

• 2:13:16Speaker 01

  Anyway, let the cat out of the bag. Yeah, I don't, I don't know why cat resembles secret. Well, they are like sneaky.

• 2:13:24Dax Shepard?

  Well, maybe, like, I'm just really spinning a yarn now.

• 2:13:27Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:13:28Dax Shepard?

  What if, like historically, cats weren't allowed in the castle?

• 2:13:32Speaker 01

  Hmm.

• 2:13:32Dax Shepard?

  And so if you wanted your cat, you had to smuggle it in, in a bag.

• 2:13:35Speaker 01

  It was a secret.

• 2:13:36Dax Shepard?

  Yeah. And now the cat's out of the bag and we're in trouble. Like perhaps because people think cats are spooky, maybe there's some history of like, we don't want cats around.

• 2:13:44Speaker 04

  Do you, do you want to know what it?

• 2:13:46Dax Shepard?

  Yeah.

• 2:13:46Speaker 04

  Says?

• 2:13:47Dax Shepard?

  Yeah.

• 2:13:47Speaker 04

  Um, farmers would sometimes, when they were selling a pig, put a worthless cat in the bag instead of a piglet.

• 2:13:54Dax Shepard?

  Oh.

• 2:13:55Speaker 01

  That's cool.

• 2:13:56Dax Shepard?

  Also, what kind of idiot's gonna buy a pig on sight unseen that's in a bag? Like, hey, I got a pig for sale. Oh yeah, I'll take it. How much is it? Five bucks? Cool. And then I grab the bag and walk away. That's fucking insane.

• 2:14:09Speaker 01

  Also, they're much different sizes. So it would be, should be pretty clear.

• 2:14:13Dax Shepard?

  Although an adult cat and a piglet are probably the same size, but just the notion that you're going to buy an animal sight unseen.

• 2:14:20Speaker 01

  I know.

• 2:14:20Dax Shepard?

  You just trust that it's in the bag.

• 2:14:22Speaker 01

  In the bag. Also a phrase.

• 2:14:24Dax Shepard?

  That's in the bag. Yeah.

• 2:14:26Speaker 01

  Money in the bag that you take from the bank.

• 2:14:29Dax Shepard?

  Groceries are in a bag.

• 2:14:32Speaker 01

  It's a fun game. Okay. Um, the difference between knowledge and trivia. Knowledge is a broad and useful understanding of a subject while trivia consists of isolated, obscure and often inconsequential facts. That's, cause I was saying, I think they're different and we were like, they're kind of the same thing, but they are different to me. Like, are you good at trivia? You're very knowledgeable.

• 2:14:55Dax Shepard?

  Well, I'm better at knowledge, but I'm, I'm like, when, cause I now in Mount Juliet, I go to trivia night. It's like one of my favorite things.

• 2:15:02Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:15:02Dax Shepard?

  By the way, it's everyone in town's favorite thing. It's packed. Um.

• 2:15:06Speaker 01

  I love that.

• 2:15:06Dax Shepard?

  It's so fun. And I'm good. I think each round's got like 10. I'm personally generally good for like six of them, but there are big categories I know nothing about. Like, there's a ton of pop culture stuff I don't know anything about. Sports, I'm largely out to sea on. I don't know. I don't know who won the world series in 1980. I just can't say the Detroit Tigers because they, 84. I do know that one. That's about it.

• 2:15:30Speaker 01

  You know one. Okay.

• 2:15:31Dax Shepard?

  Yeah. And I think that the Dodgers won last year.

• 2:15:33Speaker 01

  Yeah, they did.

• 2:15:34Dax Shepard?

  But I'll likely forget that in three years. Well, I'll forget what year it was.

• 2:15:38Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 2:15:39Dax Shepard?

  Yeah.

• 2:15:39Speaker 01

  Oh, true. Yeah.

• 2:15:40Dax Shepard?

  Yeah. If they go like in 2001, this batter hit a no-hit walk-off, you know, all these terms. I don't know what the hell they're talking about.

• 2:15:48Speaker 01

  Sure.

• 2:15:48Dax Shepard?

  I'm gone.

• 2:15:49Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 2:15:49Dax Shepard?

  Yeah.

• 2:15:50Speaker 01

  Yeah. Cause yeah, I think you're knowledgeable, but I, I guess I wouldn't have said that you would be great at trivia. Unless it's like, yeah, like sci, the ones that cross over with knowledge.

• 2:16:01Dax Shepard?

  Science, I'm gonna nail. Geography, I'm gonna nail. Most of history, I'm gonna have a pretty good.

• 2:16:06Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:16:07Dax Shepard?

  Shot at it.

• 2:16:08Speaker 01

  Yep. Okay. The Leo Virgo cusp.

• 2:16:10Dax Shepard?

  Hmm.

• 2:16:11Speaker 01

  Includes individuals born roughly between August 19th and August 25th.

• 2:16:16Dax Shepard?

  That's everyone I know.

• 2:16:17Speaker 01

  Yeah. It's me.

• 2:16:18Dax Shepard?

  It's Grammy Olus. Actually, I think she might have been 18. But that's Carly, you, my mom.

• 2:16:23Speaker 01

  And I, I identify as a, well, I'm a double Virgo, but when it's.

• 2:16:28Dax Shepard?

  You just, you're kind, it sounds like you're adding, you get to add more and more.

• 2:16:31Speaker 01

  I get to add cusp Leo when I want. Well, Leo, well, it makes sense because Leos are fire signs.

• 2:16:37Dax Shepard?

  It makes sense.

• 2:16:40Dax Shepard?

  It makes logical and intuitive sense.

• 2:16:43Speaker 01

  It makes sense because a Leo is a fire sign.

• 2:16:45Dax Shepard?

  Mm hmm.

• 2:16:46Speaker 01

  Virgo is an earth sign.

• 2:16:48Dax Shepard?

  I know I already said this on a fact check, but I saw a comedian talking about that. That the stock market is men's astrology.

• 2:16:54Speaker 01

  Oh, that's funny.

• 2:16:55Dax Shepard?

  That is the most accurate thing I've ever heard. Because it's also complete bullshit and doesn't mirror reality at all.

• 2:17:02Speaker 01

  That's really true.

• 2:17:03Dax Shepard?

  It's not anchored into reality whatsoever.

• 2:17:05Speaker 01

  Oh, difference between crank call and prank call. Most people use them to mean the exact same thing. And prank is more common, modern term. It usually describes a lighthearted or humorous, practical joke, often made by kids or teens, like asking if a refrigerator is running. Wow, classic. Crank call, older term, comes from the word crank, meaning an eccentric or ill tempered person. Historically, a crank call was meant to genuinely harass, annoy, or upset the person receiving it, rather than just have a laugh.

• 2:17:35Dax Shepard?

  Okay, it's more to penalize someone for being grumpy.

• 2:17:39Speaker 01

  Yeah, harass them, I suppose. Um, okay, I wanted to look up a picture real quick.

• 2:17:46Dax Shepard?

  You know, punked was originally called harassment. Do you know that?

• 2:17:49Speaker 01

  Really?

• 2:17:50Dax Shepard?

  The pilot I shot was called harassment.

• 2:17:52Speaker 01

  Oh, I'm glad they changed it.

• 2:17:54Dax Shepard?

  They had to.

• 2:17:55Speaker 01

  Also, that's crazy.

• 2:17:56Dax Shepard?

  Isn't it?

• 2:17:56Speaker 01

  Yeah, that word wouldn't even be in existence.

• 2:18:00Dax Shepard?

  Outside of prisons.

• 2:18:02Speaker 01

  Punked was a word in prisons?

• 2:18:03Dax Shepard?

  Yeah.

• 2:18:04Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 2:18:04Dax Shepard?

  Yeah.

• 2:18:05Speaker 01

  Is that where they got it?

• 2:18:06Dax Shepard?

  Uh huh. It was like a very undergroundy prison term.

• 2:18:10Speaker 01

  Oh, wow.

• 2:18:12Dax Shepard?

  Yeah.

• 2:18:13Speaker 01

  Now, you said Norman Reed has a, you think, has a scar on his face. The painter?

• 2:18:20Dax Shepard?

  No, no.

• 2:18:21Speaker 04

  Norman Reedus?

• 2:18:22Dax Shepard?

  Reedus.

• 2:18:23Speaker 01

  Oh, you said, I thought you said Reed. Who's Norman Reedus?

• 2:18:28Speaker 04

  From The Walking Dead.

• 2:18:29Dax Shepard?

  Walking Dead.

• 2:18:30Speaker 01

  Oh, okay.

• 2:18:32Dax Shepard?

  That's very cool. I think he's also in Game of Thrones and other stuff with his rad scar.

• 2:18:38Speaker 04

  I think you're thinking of a different guy.

• 2:18:40Dax Shepard?

  Another guy?

• 2:18:41Speaker 04

  I think, let me.

• 2:18:42Speaker 01

  I'm not seeing a scar.

• 2:18:44Speaker 04

  I think you're thinking Tommy Flanagan. Let me get his photo.

• 2:18:48Dax Shepard?

  Okay, let's see Flanagan. Tommy Flanagan sounds like a guy that would have a face scar for sure. Oh, yeah.

• 2:18:54Speaker 01

  Oh, wow.

• 2:18:55Dax Shepard?

  Bingo.

• 2:18:55Speaker 04

  Sons of Anarchy.

• 2:18:56Dax Shepard?

  Yeah, Sons of Anarchy. And also, he's been on like some Game of Thrones-y stuff, too.

• 2:19:01Speaker 01

  Oh, cool. That is a cool scar.

• 2:19:03Dax Shepard?

  Isn't that rad? It's so, this is such a ding ding ding. Earlier, when you were talking about your chin bruise.

• 2:19:09Speaker 01

  Uh huh.

• 2:19:09Dax Shepard?

  I was about, I was on the verge of saying like, one of the great privileges of being a man is like, we can kind of pull off cuts and scars and bruises and we kind of look cooler.

• 2:19:18Speaker 01

  Yep, I agree.

• 2:19:19Dax Shepard?

  Yeah.

• 2:19:20Speaker 01

  Well, you look, you look like, oh, they've been through some stuff.

• 2:19:23Dax Shepard?

  They've been through some shit, yeah.

• 2:19:24Speaker 01

  And people like that?

• 2:19:25Dax Shepard?

  Yeah.

• 2:19:25Speaker 01

  And if a woman has been through some stuff, they're like, uh oh.

• 2:19:28Dax Shepard?

  What happened?

• 2:19:29Speaker 01

  Yeah, she's used, she's used up.

• 2:19:32Speaker 04

  His is the Glasgow smile, where he got the corner of his mouth slashed with a knife.

• 2:19:38Dax Shepard?

  Nice. Hardcore.

• 2:19:41Speaker 01

  Okay, does Pika skew female? It says whether Pika skews female depends entirely on the age group and life stage being examined. Unlike most eating disorders, such as anorexia bulimia, which heavily skew female, Pika does not have a definitive baseline gender split across the entire population. It significantly fluctuates depending on demographic factors. But I think maybe the show, like, it's hard, because this is like based off that show.

• 2:20:07Dax Shepard?

  That's true. Maybe women are more willing to participate.

• 2:20:11Speaker 01

  Talk about it.

• 2:20:11Dax Shepard?

  Yeah.

• 2:20:12Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:20:12Dax Shepard?

  Back to the embarrassment, ding ding ding.

• 2:20:14Speaker 01

  There's so many dingles. Um, all right, well, that's it for Joey.

• 2:20:20Dax Shepard?

  Okay, love Joey King.

• 2:20:21Speaker 01

  Yeah, great time, Joey.

• 2:20:23Dax Shepard?

  Great girl. All right, love you.

• 2:20:24Speaker 01

  Love you.