Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Gym II

Dax and Monica talk to Armcherries! In today's episode, Armcherries tell us their crazy gym stories. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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• 0:00Dax Shepard?

  Welcome, welcome, welcome to Armchair Anonymous. I'm Dax Shepard and miniature mouse is walking here. Today we have Crazy Gym Part Two. Tell us a crazy gym story. We have four that really, really deliver. Be careful in the gym and please enjoy Crazy Gym Part Two. We get support from Quince.

• 0:21Speaker 01

  I have to say, I am so ready for fall. I want sweaters. I've been craving a true crisp morning where I actually need a jacket. I can't wait.

• 0:30Dax Shepard?

  I'm fully there. The second it dips below 70, I'm like, this is my season. Give me the layers, give me the boots, give me a reason to wear something other than a t-shirt. And honestly, that's why I love Quince, because fall is when your wardrobe actually has to show up. And everything at Quince is 50 to 80% less than similar brands. We're talking 100% Mongolian cashmere sweaters, starting at $60.

• 0:52Speaker 01

  $60. $60 for cashmere that you'd expect from a luxury brand without the luxury price tag. It's amazing. Gets me every time. It really shouldn't be real, but it is because they go straight to the factories, they skip the middlemen, and they just hand you the savings. The stuff isn't trendy. It's the kind of pieces you grab over and over because they work every time.

• 1:10Dax Shepard?

  The 100% Mongolian cashmere sweaters for me are it. When I look at Steve McQueen, this man owned a couple of sweaters he wore all the time, and he looks iconic.

• 1:19Speaker 01

  It's a uniform. And Quince isn't just about the clothes. They have hotel quality bedding, cookware, bath essentials, thoughtfully designed furniture. You can really go there and outfit your entire apartment or house. So if you're in need of any kind of fall refresh at home too, same quality, same attention to detail for every corner of your life.

• 1:39Dax Shepard?

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• 2:40Speaker 01

  Hi.

• 2:41Dax Shepard?

  Is it Maisy?

• 2:42Speaker 02

  Maisy, like the department store.

• 2:44Speaker 01

  Oh, love it.

• 2:45Dax Shepard?

  Maisy, like the department store. And when people fuck it up, what do they most regularly say?

• 2:49Speaker 02

  Maisy, which honestly, I don't really even notice the difference. I get a lot of Massey.

• 2:54Speaker 01

  Oh, no.

• 2:55Speaker 02

  Yeah, whatever. Monica, happy birthday.

• 2:59Dax Shepard?

  Oh, good job. You're hardcore Armchair.

• 3:03Speaker 02

  I'm so excited to be here.

• 3:04Speaker 01

  Thank you.

• 3:05Dax Shepard?

  We're excited to have you. Now, when you were getting ready this morning, you have a very fun orange, like, let's celebrate, let's be positive. Was that in the mix today? You're like, I'm in a good mood.

• 3:15Speaker 02

  Yes. And I knew that Monica's a fashionista. So I was like, what are my colors? How do I come off as my best self today?

• 3:21Speaker 01

  Wow, you're really doing it. It's a great color.

• 3:24Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 3:26Dax Shepard?

  Where are you?

• 3:26Speaker 02

  I am in a place that you were recently visiting, Dax.

• 3:29Dax Shepard?

  So Denver or Birmingham?

• 3:31Speaker 02

  I'm in Denver.

• 3:32Dax Shepard?

  You're in Denver. Okay. Are you from there or did you move there?

• 3:35Speaker 02

  I have moved around a lot, but I spent most of my childhood in the Denver area. And I actually went to your guys' Denver show when Monica was a guest.

• 3:42Speaker 01

  Oh, my goodness. Wow, I forgot. That was a long time ago. Lots changed. I've gotten much older.

• 3:48Dax Shepard?

  I was reflecting on that while I was in Denver. I was like, oh, the last time I was here, we did that show.

• 3:54Speaker 01

  Wow, fun.

• 3:55Dax Shepard?

  Fun, fun, fun.

• 3:56Speaker 02

  It was very fun. I had a great time.

• 3:58Dax Shepard?

  Okay, so you have a crazy gym story.

• 4:00Speaker 02

  I do. I work full time in communications and PR, but my like, passion job is I coach group fitness classes on the side. So like 5:00 AM, 6:00 PM coaching classes. I've done this for a long time. I've taught just about everything that is available, but right now, I really just teach like HIIT and strength training, but I've taught spin, anything you can think of.

• 4:21Dax Shepard?

  Have you seen an explosion in females entering the weight training space? I feel like there's a good and positive movement towards that.

• 4:27Speaker 02

  Yes, and I love it.

• 4:29Speaker 01

  Bone density. Do you do privates?

• 4:32Speaker 02

  I have in the past. Let's do it.

• 4:34Speaker 01

  I'm not ruling this out.

• 4:36Speaker 02

  I love it because, you know, you get to see people at all different stages of life. Like, we have women lifting their entire pregnancies or coming back from back surgery. In my free time, I like to try different gyms and like, go take classes at other places where I can be anonymous. No one knows me. Just show up, have a good workout, and also learn from other trainers, see what they're doing, what works, what doesn't. So this story takes place in 2021. In that time, it's hard to remember because it feels like forever ago. We were still doing group fitness classes in COVID facial mask. I was teaching spin at the time. So I got these really nice Under Armour branded masks that were athletic material. So they soak up the sweat better. And then they were kind of like shaped so they didn't

• 5:18Speaker 02

  collapse into your mouth when you're like, running around and breathing really hard. So I was no stranger to working out in masks. This is the moral of the story before I tell you what went down. I had heard about this gym that was like in my neighborhood. And the really cool thing was they offered altitude training. So in one of the rooms, they changed the oxygen level so that it simulates you training at high elevation.

• 5:42Dax Shepard?

  Oh, this feels dangerous. Like, if this machine goes awry, and everyone just slowly dives in there because there's not enough oxygen.

• 5:49Speaker 01

  Oh, my God, like Final Destination.

• 5:51Speaker 02

  Thankfully, that didn't happen, but it is a little risky.

• 5:54Dax Shepard?

  You're also already at altitude now? Or this didn't take place in Denver?

• 5:58Speaker 02

  No, it was, but we all like to be extreme.

• 6:00Dax Shepard?

  You want to be at base camp for K2?

• 6:02Speaker 02

  Yeah. So they offered that workout and it's mostly strength training in that room. And then they offer another class, treadmills, a little bit more like HIIT style cardio and lifting. That morning, I taught two spin classes, 6:00 and 7:00 AM. I went to work and I signed up for the strength training class after work in the altitude room because I was like, this is cool. I've never done this. I chugged my protein shake. And if you do a lot of workouts, you know, you have your routine. And I wore my shoes that are specifically for weight training and even like my sports bras, not the one I would wear on a run. You're fuel before. So I'm all ready for like, heavy lifting. And I get there, check in, very nice facility, and everyone's kind of like huddled in the main

• 6:46Speaker 02

  area. There's like 30 people in the main area. And they're like, getting hyped up, bouncing around, high fiving. And they're like, benchmark 5K, you know, like, and you're really pumped up. And I was like, what's going on? And they're like, we're all running a 5K for time today. That's just not what I was expecting. It didn't say anything on the schedule or anything. And I'd already done two spin classes that day. But I was also like, I paid $30 for this class and I need to prove to these people that I can run a 5K. Like, this is about to be a competition now. How it worked, since there were so many people just now in this one room, you had a partner. One partner would run the 5K for time, and you would mark down their time when they finish, and you'd hype them up, cheer them on, and then you would switch and you would run. So I decided, you know,

• 7:30Speaker 02

  I'm the new girl, why don't you go first? But in my head, I was like, I need to know what time to be, because this is now an unspoken competition.

• 7:37Dax Shepard?

  Machiavellian, yeah.

• 7:38Speaker 01

  I know. I love your spirit.

• 7:40Speaker 02

  The people in this gym are phenomenal athletes. She was crushing it. I was starting to doubt myself, cheering her on the whole time. We're all in our masks. She finishes, I congratulate her. And I'm like, a little bit nervous at this point. So I come out hot. I jump on the treadmill, really pushing my pace.

• 7:56Dax Shepard?

  I'm scared already.

• 7:57Speaker 02

  I get to like mile two and a half. Since I do run, I have that like, mental game where I know the last part is always going to be the hardest. Your body can keep going. Your brain will tell you you're tired. You know, I'm doing all the coaching in my head. I'm like, you got this, you got this. A lot of times when things are about to happen with your body, you might get like a hot flash or a little tummy rumbling. But I think my body was already in such a stressed state from pushing this pace. There was zero warning whatsoever. And unauthorized evacuation from my mouth begins to happen.

• 8:28Dax Shepard?

  Okay.

• 8:29Speaker 01

  With the mask on.

• 8:30Dax Shepard?

  You're looking at aspiration here. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 8:33Speaker 01

  And you're on the treadmill.

• 8:34Dax Shepard?

  Oh, my goodness.

• 8:35Speaker 02

  All of this happens in like, point 005 seconds.

• 8:38Dax Shepard?

  You're just vomiting in your mask.

• 8:40Speaker 02

  I'm vomiting. I'm putting my hands up to like, involuntarily try to catch it. While that's happening, I trip over my feet. And it's like a belly flop onto the treadmill.

• 8:51Dax Shepard?

  Can I ask what speed you had the treadmill set at?

• 8:54Speaker 02

  I normally run at like a seven. So I'm thinking I was like, at an eight.

• 8:57Dax Shepard?

  Okay.

• 8:58Speaker 01

  That's fast.

• 8:59Dax Shepard?

  Boogie, yeah.

• 9:00Speaker 02

  So it's like, full frontal smack onto the treadmill. In the process of that happening, you know, when you like, pop a bag of chips or something, it was like, all the vomit squished out of my mask.

• 9:12Dax Shepard?

  Water balloon, big explosion of vomit. Fuck, all over the treadmill. And now, just quickly, if I can imagine, now you have a ton of vomit on the spinning conveyor belt that's going to also pelt.

• 9:23Speaker 01

  Oh, and you're flying off of it.

• 9:25Dax Shepard?

  This is an unmitigated disaster.

• 9:28Speaker 02

  Yeah, I fly backwards. Thankfully, it wasn't like, the one where the person was taking their sweatshirt off.

• 9:34Speaker 01

  That's one of my favorite stories of all time. I mean, wow.

• 9:37Speaker 02

  I just skid straight back. But vomit's flying everywhere. My partner's standing there like, what do I do?

• 9:44Dax Shepard?

  And you said you had just pounded a protein shake smoothie? So you had, what, 20, 30 ounces of fluid?

• 9:50Speaker 02

  Just pure protein coming out of it. My partner was very good. She stayed very calm. And she was just like, we need help. She didn't yell. But yeah. Vomits splattering everywhere. I'm just kind of in shock. Like at this point, my mask is not on. I have this stuff like into my hair because it all like squished across my face.

• 10:10Dax Shepard?

  You're laying on the ground behind the treadmill at this point?

• 10:13Speaker 02

  Yeah, but my inclination is to pop up and just be like, everything's fine.

• 10:17Dax Shepard?

  Yeah, nothing happened.

• 10:17Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 10:18Speaker 02

  And I was like, do you have a mop? I'll clean it up. And I just like went into fix it mode. So all the coaches, because all the coaches were there for this big celebration run over. And they're like, this is a badge of honor. You pushed yourself so hard that you threw up in class.

• 10:34Dax Shepard?

  This is where that workout community tips a little bit into insanity. Like you can imagine if he had died, they'd be jumping up and down with excitement. You put you put to the awesome big goal.

• 10:45Speaker 02

  It was crazy. The coach was like, I'm an EMT. This is nothing. So he was really great. He cleaned it up.

• 10:51Dax Shepard?

  Do you start thinking it might be a meet cute? Was he like tenderly wiping puke off your cheeks or anything?

• 10:55Speaker 01

  Cute.

• 10:55Speaker 02

  My mind was in other places. They got my partner like a new shirt to put on. So they really wanted everyone to stay and do like a little circle, you know, hand.

• 11:04Speaker 01

  That's over.

• 11:05Speaker 02

  And I was like, I really gotta go. And they were like, no, you, you were the champion today. You need to stay. No one wants to stand by me. I'm just huddled.

• 11:13Speaker 01

  This is a sad story.

• 11:16Dax Shepard?

  This Monica, you would, can you even imagine?

• 11:18Speaker 01

  No.

• 11:19Dax Shepard?

  No.

• 11:19Speaker 01

  That'd be the last day I was alive.

• 11:21Dax Shepard?

  Yeah, yeah. If you had to stand there while people are celebrating.

• 11:24Speaker 01

  By the way, though, I just wouldn't. I'd be like, I'm going. And then I would just run out.

• 11:28Dax Shepard?

  Cry. You'd be crying.

• 11:28Speaker 01

  Of course. And the cry would make the vomit like even thin, but it would be thinner. Ooh. I'm so sorry that happened to you.

• 11:36Speaker 02

  It's okay. I mean, it made for a good story. And I did email the owners the next day and I was like, great thing you have going on. Really excited to try the altitude room. I think it would be helpful in the future if you can just update the schedule, like if there's a special class. So people know what they're getting into. And they were very receptive. So kudos to them. I've been back since then.

• 11:54Dax Shepard?

  So are you still exercising at this pace?

• 11:57Speaker 02

  Yes. I tore my ACL two years ago, so I kind of slowed down a little bit after that. And then I recently broke my collarbone. So I haven't been lifting for like the last

• 12:07Dax Shepard?

  On a bicycle?

• 12:08Speaker 02

  Six weeks.

• 12:09Dax Shepard?

  Yeah.

• 12:10Speaker 01

  Same with Dax.

• 12:11Dax Shepard?

  Well, motorcycles, but it's all the same injury. When you go over the handlebars, right? Did you go over the handlebars?

• 12:15Speaker 02

  I did.

• 12:16Dax Shepard?

  Yeah, yeah. That's a bar. Were you doing downhill or what was happening?

• 12:20Speaker 02

  We were gravel biking in Denali National Park. And I think I was just like looking at the scenery.

• 12:25Speaker 01

  Movement is dangerous.

• 12:28Dax Shepard?

  And life saving.

• 12:29Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 12:31Dax Shepard?

  Well, Macy, that story was awesome. You went through the wringer, my friend.

• 12:34Speaker 01

  It was visceral too.

• 12:35Speaker 02

  Yeah. So be careful on your treadmills. If I can, just like give you a little shout out, Monica. My husband and I have been trying to get pregnant for like the last year and I've had a handful of miscarriages and it's been a rocky road. And I recently started listening to Race to Thirty Five because I think we may need to go down that avenue with some medical assistance. And I was like, I know what to expect because Monica, my friend Monica has done this and she survived.

• 12:59Speaker 01

  I did survive and you'll survive too. That's amazing.

• 13:02Speaker 02

  Thank you. And just the bravery it took you to do that in such a public way is really inspiring.

• 13:08Speaker 01

  I appreciate it. I'm going to send you all the love and all the luck and it's gonna go great.

• 13:14Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 13:14Dax Shepard?

  Well, lovely meeting you, Macy.

• 13:16Speaker 02

  I told my friend Erica, who's my Cali, that I'd give her a shout out because I got her hooked on you guys.

• 13:21Speaker 01

  We love that.

• 13:22Speaker 02

  Shout out to Erica.

• 13:23Dax Shepard?

  Shout out Erica.

• 13:24Speaker 02

  But thank you guys. So nice to meet you guys.

• 13:26Dax Shepard?

  So nice to meet you. Thank you so much.

• 13:28Speaker 01

  Have a great day.

• 13:29Speaker 02

  And Monica, let me know if you want to train.

• 13:30Speaker 01

  I will.

• 13:31Dax Shepard?

  Take care.

• 13:32Speaker 02

  Bye.

• 13:34Speaker 01

  I don't want to train because you get hurt.

• 13:37Dax Shepard?

  Well, I don't know if you'll be training on that level, but who knows? Maybe she'll have you running five K.

• 13:43Speaker 01

  That is a thing I'm more able to do is run than lift, but I need to lift.

• 13:49Dax Shepard?

  Also, fair to say you haven't had a ton of experience lifting, so you're not sure that you're better at one than the other. You've just have more history doing one.

• 13:58Speaker 01

  I have more history. I have the body for it a little more. Boobs are hard for lifting.

• 14:04Dax Shepard?

  No, for running.

• 14:06Speaker 01

  And lifting because like when I lift, I have to lift so much already. I'm always lifting.

• 14:11Dax Shepard?

  You're always lifting. I guess you don't need to lift. You don't need a trainer.

• 14:14Speaker 01

  I'm ABL.

• 14:15Dax Shepard?

  Let's talk to Alex.

• 14:17Speaker 03

  Oh my God.

• 14:18Speaker 01

  Hi.

• 14:19Dax Shepard?

  Alex?

• 14:20Speaker 03

  This is crazy. I'm really nervous right now.

• 14:24Speaker 01

  Oh no, don't be nervous.

• 14:25Dax Shepard?

  First of all, are you a gamer? You have an incredibly good sounding headset.

• 14:29Speaker 03

  I'm not a gamer, but my brother is actually living with me and he's a true gamer. I like your headsets. They're pretty good looking too.

• 14:36Speaker 01

  Thank you. These are classic. Sure, right?

• 14:39Dax Shepard?

  No, that's our microphones.

• 14:41Speaker 01

  Oh, DT seven, seven, zero studio.

• 14:44Speaker 03

  Okay, I'm writing that down.

• 14:45Speaker 01

  Yeah, please do.

• 14:47Dax Shepard?

  Okay, I'm not going to say it out loud, but I saw your last name when the Zoom started. And that's an incredibly interesting last name. What's the origin of that?

• 14:54Speaker 03

  I'm Brazilian, so that's a Brazilian last name.

• 14:57Speaker 01

  Love it.

• 14:58Speaker 03

  That last portion means son. So we don't do junior in Brazil.

• 15:02Speaker 01

  Oh, that's so cool.

• 15:03Dax Shepard?

  Okay, okay. And what generation are you? Who came here from Brazil?

• 15:07Speaker 03

  My whole family moved here about six years ago, but I'm Brazilian.

• 15:11Dax Shepard?

  Oh, so you were raised in Brazil?

• 15:13Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 15:14Dax Shepard?

  And where are you at currently?

• 15:15Speaker 03

  Florida. I'm gonna keep it at Florida.

• 15:17Speaker 01

  Okay, keep it anonymous.

• 15:19Dax Shepard?

  Okay, so you have a crazy gym story.

• 15:22Speaker 03

  I do have a crazy gym story. It will take a turn.

• 15:24Dax Shepard?

  Okay, good.

• 15:27Speaker 03

  This happened a year ago. I was finishing my second year of college, going into my third year. I live in a student housing, which means like we get new roommates every year and my past roommates were moving out. I have an empty apartment and it's starting to fall. People want to start going out. We need to look good. So I started going to the gym. So I'm going to this new gym. I'm not usually want to be socializing at the gym, but there's this guy and we start talking and at first everything was okay. He was just a guy who was helping me out with my workouts. It became pretty clear that we had sort of the same schedules because every time that I was at the gym, he would be there.

• 16:07Speaker 03

  So we just became gym buddies. Everything was fine up until two weeks later when I get an email from my complex with the new roommate's listings.

• 16:16Dax Shepard?

  Oh, I'm already scared.

• 16:17Speaker 01

  Me too.

• 16:17Dax Shepard?

  Uh, really quick, I presume you're working out at like the student gym for the school? Or are you like off campus at like a chain gym?

• 16:25Speaker 03

  Off campus gym, just because I go to a pretty big school, so it's kind of hectic to work out at school gym. But I get an email from the complex and in that email, I'm scrolling through the names and I see this guy's name. And for this story, I'm gonna call him Damon.

• 16:41Speaker 01

  Oh, all right.

• 16:42Dax Shepard?

  Okay, great.

• 16:42Speaker 01

  It reminds me of Matt, obviously.

• 16:44Dax Shepard?

  Yeah, yeah, sure. That'll be easy for you to remember. Let's call him Matt Damon, actually.

• 16:50Speaker 01

  No, I have a feeling this person does not resemble Matt Damon at all.

• 16:54Speaker 03

  I don't want to give Matt Damon that description, so let's not do that.

• 16:57Dax Shepard?

  Okay.

• 16:58Speaker 03

  Damon is on that list and when I look, I go through the email a couple of times because I cannot believe this. I didn't even know that he was in college, but either way, I sent him a text and I'm like, hey, like I saw that your name was on my roommate's list for next year. Are you in school? I didn't know this. And then he was like, yeah, I saw your post and I saw that you lived at this complex. So I looked it up and it looked like a pretty cool complex. So I signed up for the complex. He told me that it was like a pure coincidence and that he was very happy that he got randomly assigned to my unit.

• 17:28Dax Shepard?

  At that time, are you taking it all at face value or are you starting to get a little bit of spidey senses?

• 17:33Speaker 03

  As you guys say, that was my first ding ding ding.

• 17:35Dax Shepard?

  Okay, okay, okay. That was maybe ding. I mean, we don't have ding and ding yet, but we definitely have ding.

• 17:42Speaker 01

  The first ding is there.

• 17:43Speaker 03

  That was a little bit of a reflex for me, but I was like, okay, at least I know one of my roommates who are moving in. We already work out together. He seems like a cool guy. Everything will be fine.

• 18:00Dax Shepard?

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• 20:51Speaker 01

  Which is a fair question.

• 20:52Dax Shepard?

  Yeah. So Instagram has got something called teen accounts and they come with automatic protections built in by default. So anyone between 13 and 17 is automatically placed into this experience. They get age appropriate content settings, contact limits, so that by default, only people they're already connected to can message them. And time management tools, daily time limit reminders, and also sleep mode that mutes notifications from 10:00 PM to 7:00 AM.

• 21:18Speaker 01

  Sleep mode is genius.

• 21:19Dax Shepard?

  Right? And here's the thing, for anyone under 16, a parent has to give permission to change any of those settings to be less strict. The guardrails are on and Instagram keeps building new safety features to create age appropriate experiences for teens.

• 21:35Speaker 01

  I am really glad Instagram's helping to give parents peace of mind with teen accounts.

• 21:39Dax Shepard?

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• 22:24Dax Shepard?

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• 22:44Speaker 03

  For the next couple of months, everything is chill. We are roommates, we do roommate stuff together, we watch movies, we work out, we go to the library. At one point, all of my roommates shared locations. At one point I had Damon's location. One day I checked, he was at a community college and to everybody in the apartment, he presented himself as a university student. That was the second thing. It became pretty clear that he was not going to our school. I now know this information about him. So one day I actually confront him about the whole thing. And he just lays out so much new information that I didn't know about. So he is not going to my school. He goes to a community college. He was too embarrassed to tell the roommates that he did not get into my school.

• 23:29Speaker 03

  I can understand how that might feel. And then he's had a cool personality, he was very chill. And in a span of two weeks, his whole mood just changed. He would come slamming the doors in the apartment. We would hear him yelling in his room, crying in his room.

• 23:46Speaker 01

  Oh no.

• 23:47Speaker 03

  We didn't know what was going on, but me as a friend, I was the only one close to him in the apartment. I decided to have a conversation with him and that's when he laid out to me that he impregnated a girl, his ex-girlfriend.

• 24:00Dax Shepard?

  Oh, okay. All right.

• 24:01Speaker 03

  At first he wanted to pretend that it was not his son. I was like, I think the most right thing for you to do right now is to get a paternity test.

• 24:12Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 24:12Speaker 03

  But he doesn't want to get a paternity test. Couple of months later, the girl actually takes him to court because she's been asking for help because she's pregnant, she got caught. And he's just ghosting the girl. But at the same time that he's ghosting the girl, I start to see that he's a creep. Because I had his locations, we roommates found out that he was creeping outside of her apartment, just trying to see if guys were coming in or out.

• 24:37Dax Shepard?

  Oh boy.

• 24:38Speaker 03

  I decide that this is not someone that I want to be hanging out with, but I'm in the situation that now he's my roommate. So this now is December of last year. I'm trying to keep my distance, but now his whole obsession with the girl sort of transformed into obsession with me.

• 24:56Speaker 03

  Every time I would get out of the apartment, there would be questions about who I was hanging out with, where I was going, what time I would be back. This pattern kept going up until March. He's now taking steroids and I think he's getting some roid rage, his mood is not the same. We live in a five bedroom apartment, so there's me and four other guys. He was a pretty clean guy, but the apartment started becoming a mess. We had an air fryer and that air fryer was being used and used and used repeatedly without cleaning. So our fire alignment in the apartment was starting to go off every night because of the accumulated grease that was burning out.

• 25:32Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 25:33Dax Shepard?

  He needs his protein.

• 25:34Speaker 03

  It's the chicken broccoli rice every day.

• 25:38Speaker 03

  This roommate is already scared of Damon. He decides to write a post-it note and put on the air fryer, asking the guy to clean the air fryer. Damon doesn't take that nicely. When he wakes up and see the post-it note, he just crashes out. He not just yell at the guy, but he starts kicking the door. He's yelling, if you're a man, you're going to come out and talk to me. Why couldn't you just have a conversation with me about this? You didn't have to put a post-it note. And to me, it's pretty clear why the other roommate did that.

• 26:05Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 26:05Speaker 03

  Because he was literally trying to avoid this whole situation.

• 26:08Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 26:09Speaker 03

  So I get involved because I did not want Damon to actually touch the guy. I get Damon away from him and that was the first incident. This incident kept going. I think we had four of those, but never to me. Up until April, apparently three of his eggs went missing in the fridge and he decided that I took his eggs.

• 26:31Dax Shepard?

  Oh boy. The great egg caper of April.

• 26:35Speaker 03

  We did have a shortage of eggs, which I understand.

• 26:39Dax Shepard?

  Could have brought out the worst in him, that scarcity.

• 26:41Speaker 03

  I wake up, I think it's going to be a normal morning. I only have one class for the day. I need to do laundry, so I get my laundry basket out of my room and he's in the kitchen. And the first thing that I see is him pointing at me and he starts yelling at me. And he calls me a stealer that I've been stealing his food. He knew that I took his eggs. I try to calm down the situation and I'm like, I don't know what you're talking about, but can you please lower your voice? Let's figure this out. He did not take that well. He escalated completely. He started coming at me and then he was yelling slurs, up until the point that he was about to touch me. And then at that point, Monica would be really proud of me because I threatened to call the cops.

• 27:21Speaker 01

  Yes, 911.

• 27:23Dax Shepard?

  Good job, guys. Yeah, good.

• 27:24Speaker 03

  I think that scared him off. I went to my room, locked the door. He did the same thing of kicking and yelling, but I was so fed up, so I just told him to fuck off. If not, I was going to call the cops. He did. I was very overwhelmed after that situation, so I decided to get off the apartment, go to my friend's place. That same night, we were planning to booty pump, but you know, it didn't work out.

• 27:46Dax Shepard?

  Okay.

• 27:48Speaker 03

  He sent me a text a little while after the whole situation, explaining that he did not feel like himself. He's been going through so much with the paternity court and his whole situation with the son and everything. And I'm like, I get it, but at the same time, I don't think this is a reasonable behavior for you to be having with your roommates. That was my last actual interaction with Damon. After that, I got so scared to live in my own apartment that I was couch surfing. And whenever I completely knew that Damon was not in the apartment, I would come back, but it was some very stressful time. And that's when my parents actually got involved in this and found out that he had a couple battery charges. And he had two aggravated domestic violence charges.

• 28:30Speaker 03

  That's when I was finally able to talk to my complex office to sort of get him out of our leaving zone. So that was my story about how a gym friend became a crazy roommate. This is also a mesh of stories.

• 28:47Speaker 01

  That's true. It was also a crazy roommate. It's very yikes.

• 28:50Dax Shepard?

  Boy, there's a lot here. Was it easy for them to get him out of that apartment?

• 28:53Speaker 03

  Our apartment complex, we go through some background check. It wasn't easy just because they approved the background check and in Florida, we have some laws for like non-discriminatory protection. But I think he was also just fed up with us that the office kind of offered him to leave without having to pay anything. And then he kind of took the bait and left.

• 29:16Speaker 01

  Oof.

• 29:16Dax Shepard?

  Gosh, so he's still out there. That was only a few months ago. Was he getting visibly bigger?

• 29:20Speaker 01

  He's our next caller.

• 29:21Dax Shepard?

  Was he jacked? Were the roids working?

• 29:23Speaker 03

  The roids were working.

• 29:24Dax Shepard?

  There's so many young dudes on roids and yeah, they're so emotionally unstable.

• 29:28Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 29:28Dax Shepard?

  It's insane.

• 29:30Speaker 01

  What's fucking with their hormones?

• 29:31Dax Shepard?

  Oh boy. Oh boy. So he wasn't romantically in love with you. To me, and I can't, you're not supposed to diagnose people that you've never met, and especially if you're not a psychologist, which I'm not. But it sounds a little BDP. He immediately was obsessed with you.

• 29:43Speaker 01

  Yeah. It did sound like that, but then the roids made more sense.

• 29:47Dax Shepard?

  It also just points out how tenuous our grip on acting normal is. Like you add a little bit of this into your body and then mentally you're unhinged.

• 29:57Speaker 03

  The thing that stuck with me was how normal he seemed in the beginning and how quickly things changed. And that kind of scared me off from building new friendships and stuff like that, because we never know what's going to happen.

• 30:09Dax Shepard?

  You don't know.

• 30:10Speaker 01

  It's true. Ugh.

• 30:11Dax Shepard?

  Oh boy. Well, Alex, you're a delight to me.

• 30:14Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 30:15Dax Shepard?

  I can see where someone really wanted to live with you and be friends. You're very friendly.

• 30:20Speaker 03

  Nah, this is totally insane. I just wanted to tell Monica that Monica is my biggest parasocial relationship.

• 30:26Speaker 01

  Oh, I love being on the other side of the parasocial relationship. It's fun.

• 30:31Dax Shepard?

  All right. Well, good luck with everything. You're about to start your senior year.

• 30:34Speaker 03

  This is first day of classes, so I'm going to class in about an hour.

• 30:38Speaker 01

  Oh my God. Enjoy it.

• 30:40Dax Shepard?

  Enjoy your last year.

• 30:41Speaker 03

  Thank you, guys. Thank you for having me.

• 30:42Dax Shepard?

  Take care.

• 30:44Speaker 01

  Hi there.

• 30:46Dax Shepard?

  Kate.

• 30:46Speaker 04

  Hi.

• 30:48Dax Shepard?

  How are you?

• 30:49Speaker 01

  Sweater.

• 30:50Speaker 04

  Thank you so much.

• 30:52Dax Shepard?

  And cute sunshine pendant. Was that what we don't call it a pendant? Charm. What is it? What do we call that?

• 30:58Speaker 01

  Necklace.

• 30:59Dax Shepard?

  Well, isn't the necklace the round part?

• 31:01Speaker 01

  Okay, I don't want to get into it.

• 31:03Speaker 04

  I think a pendant.

• 31:04Dax Shepard?

  Okay, good, good, good, good. And where are you, Kate?

• 31:07Speaker 04

  I'm in St. Pete, Florida.

• 31:08Dax Shepard?

  Are you shortening St. Petersburg?

• 31:10Speaker 04

  I am, yes.

• 31:11Dax Shepard?

  Oh, okay, okay, okay. And is Busch Gardens still thriving down there?

• 31:15Speaker 04

  Yeah, that's over in Tampa. I don't get there often, but it's still going.

• 31:19Dax Shepard?

  How far of a drive is that for you? Forty minutes?

• 31:21Speaker 04

  Yeah, it'd be like half an hour.

• 31:22Dax Shepard?

  Oh, even shorter.

• 31:23Speaker 01

  Pretty close.

• 31:24Dax Shepard?

  And what kind of heat are you dealing with down there right now?

• 31:26Speaker 04

  Oh, well, let's just say I shouldn't be wearing this sweater, but I did it for you guys.

• 31:30Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 31:31Speaker 04

  It's quite unbearable in the summer, but we're towards the end when it starts to get nice and reason why people move down here.

• 31:37Dax Shepard?

  And where are you from?

• 31:38Speaker 04

  I'm originally from New Jersey.

• 31:39Speaker 01

  Oh, lovely.

• 31:41Dax Shepard?

  I would imagine there's a lot of transplants from that area down there.

• 31:44Speaker 04

  Definitely. It's a really cool city. We got the beach. There's a really cool like art scene down here.

• 31:50Dax Shepard?

  Okay, so you have a fun gym story, or I don't know if fun's the right word, but you have a gym story.

• 31:54Speaker 04

  I have an interesting gym story. Well, first I have to say, Monica, happy birthday.

• 31:58Speaker 01

  Oh, my goodness. Thank you.

• 32:00Dax Shepard?

  The arm cherries are so sweet.

• 32:01Speaker 01

  That's really nice. Thank you.

• 32:03Dax Shepard?

  They all know your birthday. I'm her best friend and I have to think constantly like, okay, this is coming. It's the 24th. You know, I'm not.

• 32:09Speaker 01

  I thought you forgot today.

• 32:11Dax Shepard?

  No, you thought so.

• 32:13Speaker 01

  This morning.

• 32:13Dax Shepard?

  The second I saw you, I was singing happy birthday. How could you?

• 32:16Speaker 01

  No, before.

• 32:17Dax Shepard?

  Or you just were anticipating I was gonna come out and not know it was your birthday? Okay. And then yesterday I was at your house singing happy birthday to you.

• 32:23Speaker 01

  I thought you forgot.

• 32:27Speaker 01

  But I really appreciate you knowing and thinking. Thank you.

• 32:30Speaker 04

  Oh, absolutely. So my gym story takes place here in St. Pete, Florida. This was in the spring of 2024. And for a little backstory, I had started dating my girlfriend a few months prior to this, and we actually met at the gym. Monica, be cute.

• 32:47Speaker 01

  That's a different gym story, I guess.

• 32:50Speaker 04

  Yeah. So at this point, we'd been dating for just a few months. We're definitely like in the honeymoon phase of our relationship. And our gym was having a adult field day.

• 33:01Dax Shepard?

  Oh.

• 33:02Speaker 04

  They have it at a local park, but it was like a Sunday adult field day that we had signed up for. So that's where my story takes place. So the morning of the field day, we decided to go for a little walk beforehand. So my girlfriend Jenna and I are walking our dog and all of a sudden this dog off leash comes flying at our dog and latches onto his neck. So everything happened very quickly, but we're both holding mugs of coffee. The mugs of coffee are all over us. We're on the ground pulling this dog off. The owner comes over. Luckily, our dog was okay. That's kind of the start of our day. So we start the day walking back to our house.

• 33:40Speaker 04

  Pretty rattled. We've got coffee all over us and I just had this feeling. I'm like, I don't know, just something about that situation is telling me like, we just shouldn't do the gym thing today. We should just skip over this whole adult field day. I just have this intuition. But our dog was fine and she's like, you know what? We signed up for this. We've been looking forward to it. Let's just do it. We get ready. I throw on some gym shorts and I steal my girlfriend's Westphalia vintage T-shirt. I thought it looked really cute. And she says to me, that is my favorite shirt. Please don't get grass stains on it.

• 34:12Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 34:12Speaker 04

  Which I'm like, I'm not gonna get a grass stain, okay? An adult field day. So anyways, we take off to field day. There's probably like 120 to 150 people there. There's a couple of different vendors. They have a DJ. So it's really fun, like little setup.

• 34:28Dax Shepard?

  Big turnout. Is there like events planned? Like a three-legged race, that kind of stuff?

• 34:32Speaker 04

  Yep. So it's like the tug of war, the three-legged race, all that kind of fun stuff.

• 34:36Dax Shepard?

  Potato sack race.

• 34:37Speaker 04

  Exactly. We were put on the same team. We knew a lot of people that went to this gym, but our team that we were paired with, there were eight other people and we didn't know them. Start off, we do the tug of war, lose miserably. Next station, lose miserably. And I should know, my girlfriend and I are both like pretty competitive people. And like, even though this is like a fun, lighthearted day, I'm like, hey, we're here. Like, we're putting in the effort. Our team's slacking a little bit.

• 35:07Dax Shepard?

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• 35:45Speaker 01

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• 35:56Dax Shepard?

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• 36:11Speaker 01

  Yeah, you do.

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• 38:03Dax Shepard?

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• 39:17Speaker 04

  So we get to a race where it's all of the teams are competing at once. So there's like 12 of us and it's one of those relay races where there's the potato sack down and back, and then you put the egg on, you know, very fun. So at this point, we were down one person because one girl on our team just kind of gave up and was like, I don't want to do this anymore. So we're down to nine people. Everybody else has got 10. So we start this potato sack goes. We do the egg and I'm looking around. I'm like, we're actually doing pretty good. Like we have a chance here. Like, all right, like we're ready to take it up. I'm starting like the adrenaline's kicking and the very last portion of this race was running backwards. So you like run backwards to a cone, turn around and run backwards. So we're standing there. There's a guy in front of me and I'm like, hey, man, can I go in front of you?

• 40:00Speaker 04

  I'm really good at running backwards. And he's like, yeah, sure.

• 40:03Dax Shepard?

  If I were him, I'd be like, how do you know that?

• 40:05Speaker 01

  I know.

• 40:06Dax Shepard?

  How would you even know if you're good at running backwards?

• 40:09Speaker 04

  I don't know. Super confident. Just so pumped. So I turn around. I make it about five strides and my foot catches and I just immediately go down.

• 40:20Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 40:21Speaker 04

  And I did exactly what you're not supposed to do, which, you know, my dad's a college basketball coach and he always says like, if you're ever gonna fall, don't put your arms back. That's exactly what I did. So I put my arms back and the second I go down, I'm like, I'm screwed. Like this is not good at all. But I did not want to just lay there and have all these people come over to me and want the attention. So I'm like, okay, I've got to get up there, finish this. So I pop back up, pull my arms like in close to me. I'm like, I just can't look down. No matter what I do, I just can't look down. So I finish the one and go back. On my way back, I catch eyes with my friend Chelsea and she's like, are you okay? I'm like, absolutely not. Keep going. I see my girlfriend. I'm like, I'm not okay. I'm going over there.

• 41:03Speaker 04

  And nobody kind of really realized when I went down how hard it was because I was just so embarrassed and I didn't want the attention. So I finally like run off behind to this little section where nobody was and I look down and immediately pass out. They are just like dangling.

• 41:22Speaker 04

  My wrists just don't look like they're attached to my body.

• 41:26Dax Shepard?

  You've got silly hands now.

• 41:30Speaker 01

  What if you had popped up and ran and then looked and your hands weren't there?

• 41:34Dax Shepard?

  They were back on the ground still.

• 41:36Speaker 04

  So I come to and there's a few people, there's this one member who is a nurse and she was amazing. We had these like motivational plaques and she took those and put them on my wrist and like wrapped it up to get me to the hospital. I show up to the hospital and they do x-rays and I get put back into a room. And pretty immediately they're like, we gotta cut that shirt off. Like there's just no, we gotta cut that shirt off. So vintage shirt, completely ruined.

• 42:05Dax Shepard?

  And you certainly got grass stains on it when you fell backwards.

• 42:08Speaker 04

  Yeah, there's definitely some grass stains also, but now it's just totally ruined.

• 42:12Speaker 01

  Oh my God, if I were her, I'd be like, wait, can we just try to get it off?

• 42:17Dax Shepard?

  Well, but can we cut her arms off?

• 42:18Speaker 01

  Exactly.

• 42:19Speaker 04

  Yeah, I don't need those. I just need the shirt. They get that off and then they're basically like, we need to manipulate them back into place before anything else. Do you remember those like finger traps that you had as a kid or you put them in?

• 42:34Dax Shepard?

  Yeah, we know what they used to be called.

• 42:36Speaker 04

  I have a picture of this that I sent in, but this machine that they basically put me in, I have my hands up. All 10 fingers are in these.

• 42:45Dax Shepard?

  Yes.

• 42:46Speaker 04

  They gave me some morphine and then the doctor needed to manipulate my wrist back into place.

• 42:52Dax Shepard?

  Whoa.

• 42:53Speaker 01

  Whoa.

• 42:54Dax Shepard?

  Whoa.

• 42:55Speaker 01

  Ew, this is wild looking.

• 42:58Speaker 04

  I broke both wrists. Once they saw the x-rays, they were like, okay, you're gonna need to get surgery today. And as I mentioned, my dad is a basketball coach and he's like, you're not getting surgery right now. Like I wanna call, I'm gonna help you like find an orthopedic surgeon. So he's up in New Jersey and he's calling. So I end up leaving the hospital. I just discharged myself. I'm on all this medication. And the cast went from about here halfway up my arm, so past my elbow. So my arms are literally just stuck out like this.

• 43:28Speaker 01

  Oh, like Uncle Jesse.

• 43:30Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 43:31Dax Shepard?

  Yeah, okay, Uncle Jesse. If you don't know that reference, like the position someone's in just before they start doing the robot, that's what you're stuck in, basically.

• 43:39Speaker 01

  Okay, but most people understand Uncle Jesse from Full House and it was really upsetting and then he's stuck like this and it's sad.

• 43:46Dax Shepard?

  It's sad.

• 43:46Speaker 01

  I think he wanted to hug someone and he kinda couldn't hug. I forget the details, but it's a sad episode.

• 43:51Dax Shepard?

  Okay.

• 43:51Speaker 04

  I end up getting in touch with a surgeon the next day and they say that they can operate on me in nine days. They have to do both arms at the same time. So I was wearing that for nine days. So I just wanna remind you guys that I just got in a relationship. We actually had just moved in together. So my girlfriend needed to do absolutely everything for me from like feeding me to wiping my butt. So that was the honeymoon phase of my relationship.

• 44:14Speaker 01

  And with all her t-shirts.

• 44:16Dax Shepard?

  Knowing you ruined her favorite shirt on top of it.

• 44:19Speaker 04

  I know.

• 44:19Speaker 01

  Oh, she's a good one then.

• 44:22Dax Shepard?

  Trial by fire.

• 44:23Speaker 04

  Could she actually come say hi?

• 44:25Dax Shepard?

  Before she does, I have a couple of follow up questions. Were you on grass or pavement?

• 44:29Speaker 04

  Grass. It was just kinda like uneven, I suppose.

• 44:32Dax Shepard?

  I was very nervous you were going to tell me that the bones were out when you stopped running.

• 44:37Speaker 04

  Oh my gosh, like sticking out.

• 44:39Dax Shepard?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then last thing is, um, my friend Joey Riccardi, when Aaron and I were in eighth grade, we were skateboarding in the driveway. And he went off this launch trip and at this point, Aaron and I were in his garage having something to drink. We hear him screaming and he runs in and he's holding his arm. And when he takes his hand off his arm, it bends like he has two wrists. I'm imagining that's what you had going on. Cause it broke clean, both those bones and he just had two wrists. It was alarming.

• 45:04Speaker 04

  Yeah, that is exactly what it was.

• 45:08Dax Shepard?

  All right, let's meet your impossibly nice girlfriend.

• 45:11Speaker 04

  Yes, Jenna.

• 45:12Speaker 01

  Hi.

• 45:13Dax Shepard?

  Hi Jenna.

• 45:14Speaker 01

  I'm so sorry about your shirt.

• 45:18Speaker 01

  It sounded really cute.

• 45:19Speaker 04

  I think it was just pretty funny that that ended up that way. Crazy start to the relationship.

• 45:24Dax Shepard?

  Has she made any effort to replace the t-shirt? There's a lot of different websites that she could be, you know?

• 45:32Speaker 04

  Not yet. If we come across one, I'm sure she will.

• 45:34Speaker 01

  There's one at a store called Max Fields in Los Angeles. It's a Sinead O'Connor vintage shirt. It is $2,000.

• 45:44Dax Shepard?

  Oh.

• 45:44Speaker 01

  If you're interested in purchasing that.

• 45:47Speaker 04

  Maybe.

• 45:49Dax Shepard?

  You could either go to Europe or you could get this t-shirt. Choice is yours.

• 45:53Speaker 04

  That can rip another one. Yeah, exactly.

• 45:56Dax Shepard?

  Well, it's lovely meeting you guys. I'm sorry you had such a terrible day at the field day. Have you guys been back? Is that an annual event they do?

• 46:03Speaker 04

  We have not been back and I don't think that they've done field day.

• 46:06Speaker 01

  You ruined it.

• 46:07Speaker 04

  Yeah, I did. I ruined field day.

• 46:10Dax Shepard?

  Well, thanks so much for calling. It's great meeting you guys.

• 46:12Speaker 04

  All right, good to meet you too.

• 46:13Dax Shepard?

  Take care. Hi. We're confused by the sign and name and then the name we think you're, is it Steph?

• 46:20Speaker 06

  Yeah, Steph. Sorry, I'm on my husband's work laptop. We couldn't get mine to work, so here I am.

• 46:26Dax Shepard?

  And is your husband, I see a guitar hanging, but I also see some sound dampening wall behind you. What's happening in this room?

• 46:33Speaker 06

  Yes, this is my husband's cool shed office that he outfitted.

• 46:37Speaker 01

  Is that an animal back there? Like a seal?

• 46:41Dax Shepard?

  On the printer?

• 46:42Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 46:42Speaker 06

  Oh, it's a sloth.

• 46:43Speaker 01

  A sloth.

• 46:46Dax Shepard?

  I think we have that sloth. Our kids had that sloth.

• 46:48Speaker 01

  You have all the sloths that were ever made.

• 46:50Dax Shepard?

  That's true. Where are you, Steph?

• 46:52Speaker 06

  I'm in Oregon in the Willamette Valley.

• 46:54Dax Shepard?

  Oh, lovely. And are you from there or did you move there?

• 46:58Speaker 06

  So we moved here about a year ago.

• 47:00Dax Shepard?

  From?

• 47:00Speaker 06

  Long story, but Minneapolis and then England and then now here.

• 47:04Speaker 01

  Oh my God, it sounds like a fun story.

• 47:07Dax Shepard?

  Boy, am I immediately, my detective mind wants to know like what industries are thriving in both of those locations that you'd go back and forth. Okay, so you have a crazy gym story.

• 47:16Speaker 06

  Okay, so this is about six years ago when I still lived in Minneapolis. At the time, I was going to this very cool trendy bouldering gym. I don't really know how else to describe it, but the cool kids went there. Like there was a kombucha bar, a yoga studio.

• 47:30Dax Shepard?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 47:31Speaker 06

  You could stay and study if you wanted to, but obviously there was bouldering too. It was always super crowded and it's where all the people gathered and mingled. So on this particular day, I had been there for about an hour. And I was working on this one route in particular and had really been wanting to try and finish it. I'd gone back and forth to it throughout the day, had gotten close several times. There were other people there that were better boulders than me who had been failing at it and I was close. So I just was like, I'm gonna get this. I was about to leave, then I was like, okay, I'll just give it one more shot.

• 48:04Dax Shepard?

  Public service announcement to anyone who does anything dangerous. One last shot slash last run. The second you say that out loud, pack your shit up and go home. Do not ever proceed after one last shot.

• 48:17Speaker 06

  I wish I knew that PSA at the time. So this particular route was on this inside corner. So the route was mostly on this wall and then the last handheld was on this wall. The only way that I really could figure out how to do it was you had to jimmy your foot in once you got up there. And then just kinda like push off and hope for the best that your hand would get that hold.

• 48:40Dax Shepard?

  Are you wearing a line? You're in a harness?

• 48:41Speaker 06

  No.

• 48:42Speaker 01

  What?

• 48:43Dax Shepard?

  Okay, okay.

• 48:43Speaker 06

  Bouldering is without the ropes.

• 48:46Speaker 01

  Oh my God.

• 48:47Speaker 06

  The walls are not as high, but it was still one and a half stories.

• 48:50Speaker 01

  Oh, and is there a pit under you?

• 48:52Speaker 06

  Not a pit. There's like a mat. It's a two foot mat.

• 48:55Speaker 01

  That's not enough.

• 48:56Speaker 06

  No. I like jimmy'd my foot in and reached out for it and pushed off and I got it. And my roommate was there and some friends below and I just heard them all cheering and they were so excited for me. I was so excited. But then the force of pushing off caused me to kinda swing one way and then on the backswing, my hand fell off and I fell. And when you're bouldering, you can fall well. Like I'd fallen well many times. You fall on both feet and then you just kinda roll back and it's great. But I fell with the full impact on my ankle.

• 49:30Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 49:33Dax Shepard?

  Well, cause you're so off balance. If you were in a pendulum state and that brought you off of your hold, right? You're skatty wampus to begin with. You're not falling now straight, right? You're falling sideways-ish.

• 49:44Speaker 06

  Yeah, it was problematic. So I hit the ground and I just heard the cheers immediately turn to like gasps and screams of horror.

• 49:52Speaker 01

  That's the worst part.

• 49:54Dax Shepard?

  You had the whole spectrum of human emotion in like three seconds.

• 49:58Speaker 06

  And I didn't feel any pain at this point, but I knew it was bad because of the way people were reacting. So then I looked down. And where my foot is supposed to be, I just see bones sticking straight out of my leg.

• 50:09Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 50:10Dax Shepard?

  Oh, no.

• 50:13Speaker 01

  No.

• 50:14Dax Shepard?

  No. What do they call that? They call that a certain kind of fracture. When it comes out of your skin, what's it called?

• 50:19Speaker 01

  A gross one.

• 50:20Speaker 06

  An open dislocation is what it was called.

• 50:24Dax Shepard?

  God.

• 50:26Speaker 06

  There's blood gushing everywhere. There's just like a pool of blood at this point.

• 50:32Dax Shepard?

  Anytime bones are on the scene, it's like, oh fuck.

• 50:36Speaker 01

  Really disrupts the natural order of things.

• 50:39Speaker 06

  Yeah, and it was kind of like if you sprain your ankle on a curb and it rolls inward, but it just kept going. So my foot was like still technically attached. I found out later it was only attached by skin.

• 50:51Speaker 01

  No.

• 50:52Speaker 06

  But it was like folded all the way up and I was staring at the bottom of my shoe.

• 50:57Dax Shepard?

  The sole of your shoe.

• 50:59Speaker 01

  No.

• 51:00Dax Shepard?

  Yeah, like imagine Mania came all the way. Oh, fuck, man.

• 51:05Speaker 06

  All the way up.

• 51:06Dax Shepard?

  I can imagine passing out from the sight of that.

• 51:08Speaker 06

  I'm not one to pass out easily, but I was feeling close at that point. Like I was like, either I'm gonna throw up or pass out. But once I saw it, I just started screaming fuck over and over again. And it was like this kid friendly gym, so I felt kind of bad about it.

• 51:25Speaker 01

  What were you gonna do?

• 51:26Speaker 06

  I know. I mean, I feel like if there's an appropriate time to use the F word, that's when it is. Like the kids will understand.

• 51:31Speaker 01

  Yeah, they need to learn.

• 51:32Speaker 06

  They need to learn when it's appropriate to use that word and that's it. But my roommate said that at that point she saw people just exiting in droves and she saw one girl go and throw up. It was chaos. Like it was pretty much completely silent in the gym except for my screams. And someone obviously called the paramedics. There was a few people surrounding me. There was randomly a boulder there who was also a nurse and she came and helped me out. And I asked someone to grab my phone and call my husband. And so I had him on speakerphone and he was kinda keeping me calm. But then when the paramedics arrived, someone took my phone away and I, to this day, just remember being so pissed about that. I was like, he's what's keeping me calm. Like, why did you do that?

• 52:12Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 52:13Speaker 06

  But yeah, so the paramedics got there and they said they were gonna give me something that would not numb the pain, but make me dissociate from it. So they pumped me full of that stuff and then they kinda splinted the ankle slightly to get me on a stretcher.

• 52:28Dax Shepard?

  God bless paramedics. Can you imagine anything worse than re-articulating someone's?

• 52:33Speaker 01

  It doesn't sound fun, but they probably get a lot of joy out of it.

• 52:36Speaker 06

  Yeah, it was like a 15 minute drive to the ER. And when I got there, the people that greeted me kinda took a look at the situation and they said, okay, we're gonna put you under for a few minutes just to stabilize you. And then they said, by the way, we can't find a pulse on your foot. So you might wake up without one. I was so high at the time on whatever the paramedics had given me that I did not give a shit about that. I was just like, please don't cut my climbing shoe. That's all I care about. Please don't cut it. It was so expensive.

• 53:07Dax Shepard?

  Isn't it funny, the human brain? As somebody who's been in several motorcycle accidents, your literal first thought is like, is the bike broken? Like, how could that be your thought?

• 53:18Speaker 06

  And it's covered in blood. I've never worn them again. I don't know why. So they put me under. When I woke up, I still had a foot.

• 53:26Speaker 01

  Oh, thank God.

• 53:27Dax Shepard?

  Yeah, cuz you could have torn all the vascularity and stuff.

• 53:31Speaker 06

  Pretty much everything was torn off. They told me it was hanging on by like just threads of skin. I had major surgery the next day and then I was there for a few days for the antibiotics and then they discharged me. So I still have a foot.

• 53:44Speaker 01

  So glad to hear that.

• 53:45Dax Shepard?

  They put plates in there?

• 53:46Speaker 06

  They thought they were going to, but they actually didn't have to. It was a really crazy injury. It was really rare. I fell and didn't break any bones at all.

• 53:54Dax Shepard?

  Oh, popped it off?

• 53:56Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 53:56Speaker 01

  What?

• 53:57Speaker 06

  Where the leg meets the foot just split right at the perfect spot of those bones.

• 54:04Speaker 01

  If you ever make a chicken, a roast chicken, and then you're carving it, the wings just pop right off at the joint.

• 54:11Dax Shepard?

  That's what happened. There's photos. Oh, fuck. This might be the first set of photos I don't know if I can look at.

• 54:16Speaker 06

  Okay, so this was after they splinted it and this was in the ambulance.

• 54:21Dax Shepard?

  Oh, my fucking heavens, dude. That's the worst photo I've seen on the show.

• 54:26Speaker 06

  Oh, that's an honor.

• 54:27Speaker 01

  What is happening?

• 54:29Dax Shepard?

  Steph, Steph, Steph, Steph, Steph. Steph. Oh, my fucking god.

• 54:34Speaker 01

  I don't even get it.

• 54:35Dax Shepard?

  And I can't stop staring at it and it's so vile.

• 54:38Speaker 06

  You can see the little bit of blue and that's my shoe.

• 54:40Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 54:41Dax Shepard?

  It's still the wrong way.

• 54:42Speaker 01

  I'm seeing a shoe just pushed up.

• 54:44Dax Shepard?

  All they did is they ace banded your shoe to the side of your leg.

• 54:47Speaker 01

  They just taped your shoe with an ace bane.

• 54:50Speaker 06

  They were pretty much like, let's just keep the foot from falling fully off before we get there.

• 54:55Dax Shepard?

  Oh.

• 54:55Speaker 01

  Wow. Wow.

• 54:57Dax Shepard?

  How soon were you back out bouldering? Ever?

• 55:00Speaker 06

  I'm a therapist and so I was like, I gotta do some exposure therapy on myself. So I did eventually go to a climbing gym with ropes and I climbed, but my hands were just like shaking the whole time. I don't enjoy it anymore.

• 55:12Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 55:12Speaker 06

  But I just don't want to be afraid of anything in my life. And so I knew I had to do that to get over the fear, but yeah, it's not the same.

• 55:21Dax Shepard?

  I know everything about your childhood from that last sentence. I just don't ever want to be afraid of anything in my life is a very.

• 55:28Speaker 01

  Well, no one likes being afraid. It's horrible.

• 55:30Dax Shepard?

  Sentence. And I can relate.

• 55:35Speaker 01

  Oh, man. Yikes. Well, I'm so glad you walked away with your foot.

• 55:40Dax Shepard?

  Good job.

• 55:44Dax Shepard?

  Well, take care. Thank you so much.

• 55:46Speaker 06

  Uh, thank you.

• 55:48Speaker 01

  I imagine that she woke up from her surgery and she looked down and there was like a Mr. Potato Head foot just stuck in there.

• 55:57Dax Shepard?

  That's what you thought was gonna happen? Like they put a prosthetic foot on and plate?

• 56:01Speaker 01

  No, Mr. Potato Head. Have you ever seen him?

• 56:03Dax Shepard?

  The actual whole potato?

• 56:05Speaker 01

  No, Mr. Potato Head's foot, you know?

• 56:07Dax Shepard?

  Okay, got you, got you, got you, got you, got you.

• 56:09Speaker 01

  Have you ever played with Mr. Potato Head?

• 56:11Dax Shepard?

  Of course. You can't grow up in America and not spend some time with Mr. Potato Head.

• 56:15Speaker 01

  A little shoe, I think.

• 56:16Dax Shepard?

  White little shoe and you just plug it in there.

• 56:19Speaker 01

  She'd just wake up and look and that's just where her foot was.

• 56:22Dax Shepard?

  Well, if you've seen that photo, there is a hole they could have put a plug in.

• 56:25Speaker 01

  Potato Head. I know. That's a rough picture.

• 56:28Dax Shepard?

  Sorry about that last one, but hey, you get what you get and you don't ask for seconds. What is it?

• 56:33Speaker 01

  You don't get upset.

• 56:34Dax Shepard?

  You don't get upset. Okay. Oh, love you and happy birthday.

• 56:37Speaker 01

  Thank you.

• 56:38Dax Shepard?

  All right. Bye bye.

• 56:41Dax Shepard?

  Do you want to sing a tune or something? We'll do a theme song. Oh, okay, great. We don't have a theme song for this new show, so here I go, go, go. We're gonna ask some random questions and with the help of our cherries, we'll get some suggestions.

• 57:01Dax Shepard?

  On the fly, a rindish. On the fly, a rindish. Enjoy.