Tom & Bert's Brutally Honest Odyssey Review | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

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  Hundred percent.

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  Brand new Two Bears, One Cave. After almost eight weeks apart, Tom and I are back.

• 0:12Speaker 01

  Back.

• 0:13Speaker 00

  And it is safe to say a lot has happened in those eight weeks for myself, which we will ignore at this point, because I'm curious, Tom, I say I don't read comments, but I've been all in the comments. I can't help it. The internet is fucking divided. And I would just like to hear it from you.

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  Just set the record straight. Have you seen The Odyssey?

• 0:38Speaker 01

  I have not. But here's the thing, I have attempted to. I was in, I was in London and then I was in DC. And I was, I had my show days and then I had off days. I tried to buy.

• 0:54Speaker 00

  You did shows in London?

• 0:55Speaker 01

  I did spots in London. I did shows in Baltimore and DC.

• 0:59Speaker 00

  I saw that. Did you meet up with Tony Woods?

• 1:02Speaker 01

  No, and they were like, he's here. I was like, great, send him back. Never came back.

• 1:08Speaker 01

  But, uh, in DC, I tried buying tickets five days out, which I was like, that's plenty of time. Sold out. And I mean, I checked like four or five theaters in the area. Everything was sold out.

• 1:22Speaker 00

  Let me tell you, I've seen it twice. I've seen it twice.

• 1:25Speaker 01

  You seen it in IMAX?

• 1:26Speaker 00

  I saw it in IMAX. I saw it in a regular movie theater. I have a lot of notes.

• 1:32Speaker 01

  You should let Nolan know.

• 1:35Speaker 00

  I have access to Nolan. My buddy produced a movie.

• 1:38Speaker 01

  He produced The Odyssey?

• 1:39Speaker 00

  The Odyssey, yeah.

• 1:40Speaker 01

  And when you say I have access, are you thinking of maybe crafting an email and sending it to him?

• 1:44Speaker 00

  No, no, no, no, no, no. I have to say, I genuinely liked the movie.

• 1:49Speaker 01

  Good.

• 1:50Speaker 00

  I genuinely liked the movie. Okay, now, here we go. Elliot Page, that's the big, what everyone wants to know. Not distracting, in my opinion. I, I thought Elliot Page is, first of all, a great actor. Always has been. Everything Elliot has done in Elliot's career has been fucking phenomenal.

• 2:13Speaker 01

  Great actor.

• 2:13Speaker 00

  Such a, such a great actor.

• 2:15Speaker 01

  You were bothered, I remember when the trailer come out, came out, you were like, I cannot believe they have a black woman as Helen of Troy. How did you feel when you actually saw it?

• 2:22Speaker 00

  I was outraged.

• 2:23Speaker 01

  You were pissed, I remember. I remember.

• 2:26Speaker 00

  No, I gotta, can I tell you, I think that's the best casting they've ever done?

• 2:29Speaker 01

  Really?

• 2:29Speaker 00

  And I'll tell you why. Yeah, I'll tell you why. Helen of Troy is such an important character in that, in that, in that story. That, and I don't mean to sound whatever, but if they, if they had just cast a regular white.

• 2:43Speaker 01

  A white, yeah.

• 2:45Speaker 00

  You would have, it would have never.

• 2:46Speaker 01

  Stood out?

• 2:47Speaker 00

  Never. It would, you just would have been like, huh?

• 2:49Speaker 01

  I know.

• 2:50Speaker 00

  Whoever starred in anything with, with Adam Sandler, all those women.

• 2:54Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 2:55Speaker 00

  It would have been like, oh, that's Helen of Troy. Yeah, she'll be, we'll never hear from her again. You know, you needed a name. Now, here's, here's the thing, you needed a name. And the fact that it was Lupita and Lupita, I think, by the way, for the record, if I'm going black, that's the direction I'm going.

• 3:09Speaker 01

  Again, she will be thrilled to hear this.

• 3:12Speaker 00

  By the way, I have access to Lupita.

• 3:14Speaker 01

  You have access to her?

• 3:15Speaker 00

  Access to Lupita.

• 3:16Speaker 01

  Through the same producer or some?

• 3:17Speaker 00

  We're the same trainer. Yeah. And by the way.

• 3:20Speaker 01

  You could slip a note, sure.

• 3:22Speaker 00

  Dark.

• 3:24Speaker 01

  Dark, dark? Are we describing her? Oh.

• 3:27Speaker 00

  I love dark. I love, oh my God, she is absolutely fucking gorgeous. And gorgeous in that movie, and so kind of stands out in that cast that I kind of went, oh, that's Helen of Troy. I didn't go like, oh, Helen of Troy is black. Now, listen, listen, I'm gonna tell you something, okay? Very clearly. And I apologize if this is gonna sound not woke, but I get distracted sometimes when I watch The Little House on the Prairie and they have a black doctor in the 1700s, that I'm like, hold on, are we not gonna address the fact?

• 3:56Speaker 01

  Takes you out of the scene, yeah.

• 3:58Speaker 00

  Are we gonna, like, when I watched the remake of Grease, they did on TV and they have just white kids and black kids at school together in the fucking 40s, and I'm like, hold on, where's the fire hoses? Where's the German shepherds? Like, I go, like, I get this, I do, if it fucks with the story, I get caught up. I was, listen, I want to say this, and I was fucking famous for this, and I got shit fucking seven years ago, Tom, I got shit on for this, and I'm right. I also, okay, and these are bad takes, these are not my greatest takes, but I would get distracted when they'd hire British, uh, black people to play American black people. It bothered me.

• 4:38Speaker 01

  It bothered you, like Idris Elba?

• 4:40Speaker 00

  That they, yeah, not, Idris always plays like Idris, right?

• 4:43Speaker 01

  No, but I mean, like in The Wire, he was famous for, you know, he was, uh.

• 4:46Speaker 00

  I didn't see that one. But no, but like.

• 4:48Speaker 01

  You didn't see The Wire?

• 4:49Speaker 00

  No, I didn't. I saw bits and parts, but I didn't, it never, yeah, and I didn't, it's whatever. He's gorgeous, he's great, he's great, right? Now, I gotta tell you.

• 4:57Speaker 01

  Yeah.

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  And I, I don't, I get he's an actor, you're allowed to do a couple, uh, regular American black roles.

• 5:04Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 5:04Speaker 00

  But I, I want you with the accent. I want you with the accent.

• 5:08Speaker 01

  Well, he nailed it in that. He nailed it in, in The Wire. That's the thing is, most people didn't know it was a British actor at the time.

• 5:14Speaker 00

  Yeah. Oh, and so when you watch, when you watch the, like.

• 5:16Speaker 01

  Stringer Bell.

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  British actor.

• 5:18Speaker 01

  That's the character.

• 5:19Speaker 00

  And then Druzeke did it.

• 5:20Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 5:21Speaker 00

  Druzeke did it, and everyone was like, yeah, that is fucking egregious. And then I was like, I was like, I said this on Two Bears and got lit up in the comments.

• 5:28Speaker 01

  And you also were like, we should, you said like, what was it you said? You said like, we should flatten Palestine, and everybody was all up your, you said that, I remember. And then, now there's a lot of people that agree with you. Keep going.

• 5:39Speaker 00

  But my, but my point being is, uh, I don't mind, like, when, I don't mind, I, I don't get distracted by crazy diversity casting. I do get upset when they didn't let Scarlett Johansson play a trans male. I was like, I was like, but she's an actress. But then all of a sudden, I'm like, yeah, but I need an American black to play an American black guy. Like, I like, I don't want to be like, all right.

• 6:03Speaker 01

  How does this track back to Helen of Troy?

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  I liked her.

• 6:07Speaker 01

  Oh, you just liked her?

• 6:09Speaker 00

  I liked her. I liked her.

• 6:11Speaker 01

  Now, I know you have a comment on this.

• 6:13Speaker 00

  What?

• 6:13Speaker 01

  How much were you just like licking your lips over Matt Damon's body? Were you into it? That feels like you really have a.

• 6:23Speaker 00

  I thought I was looking in a mirror.

• 6:25Speaker 01

  That's good.

• 6:27Speaker 00

  I look exactly like that.

• 6:30Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 6:30Speaker 00

  We're like twins.

• 6:32Speaker 01

  That's what I said.

• 6:34Speaker 00

  I liked, I liked Matt Damon. I can, I tell you what also didn't distract me, and I think this is a part of me growing up, the fact that they all had different white accents.

• 6:43Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 6:44Speaker 00

  No one had, like, usually when I watch a period piece like this, I need everyone to have the similar.

• 6:50Speaker 01

  They were all over the place?

• 6:51Speaker 00

  Yeah. It's like when, when, when fucking Brad Pitt was like, the guy, the kid says when he played Achilles, and he's like, are you scared? And then Brad Pitt, who by the way, pulls off, I don't know, and actually goes, that is why they will never remember you.

• 7:10Speaker 00

  And you're like, what accent is that? But at least he was trying, you know? Matt Damon's got a straight up Boston accent.

• 7:16Speaker 01

  In the movie?

• 7:17Speaker 00

  In the movie, he's got a hint of Boston.

• 7:19Speaker 01

  Hint of what? Is, is he supposed to be doing British the whole time?

• 7:22Speaker 00

  He's like, row to boat, you peckheads.

• 7:25Speaker 01

  Is he speaking in a British accent throughout?

• 7:26Speaker 00

  No, he speaks regular Matt Damon.

• 7:28Speaker 01

  Oh, just, right, okay.

• 7:29Speaker 00

  And then, and then John Berenthal, my favorite napper, he, he is regular John Berenthal in this.

• 7:37Speaker 01

  Is it Berenthal? Isn't it Bernthal?

• 7:39Speaker 00

  No, it's Berenthal.

• 7:40Speaker 01

  It is? It's Bernthal?

• 7:43Speaker 00

  Berenthal.

• 7:43Speaker 01

  It's not Berenthal?

• 7:45Speaker 00

  It's Berenthal.

• 7:46Speaker 01

  You can't keep saying it's Berenthal when we see that it's not.

• 7:49Speaker 00

  No, it's Berenthal. John Berenthal. It's not Bernthal.

• 7:54Speaker 01

  Wait, you're, we see what it is.

• 7:58Speaker 00

  John Berenthal got, was, he's doing some play or something with another guy from The Bear. And, uh, and I think it was like The Odd Couple or something, and, uh, they, and his guy called him napping, and he posted it. And I fucking put it in my stories, and shout out to Johnny B.

• 8:15Speaker 01

  Yeah?

• 8:16Speaker 00

  He fucking saw it. I tagged him in it and he saw it. He knows, he knows what it is. He knows, respect, game respects game. I think he probably looks at my acting and he's like, he's like, I wish I could get there.

• 8:27Speaker 01

  Yeah, your napping is legendary.

• 8:29Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 8:31Speaker 00

  Look, he's napping all the time.

• 8:33Speaker 01

  I got nothing against you if you nap. I feel like you probably do have something better to do than nap, but I'm sorry. Yeah.

• 8:38Speaker 00

  But he naps now.

• 8:39Speaker 01

  I don't trust people who take naps. Yeah, that's, that's napping. He's straight up taking a nap.

• 8:43Speaker 00

  Yeah, he's a full, full blown napper. Anyway, the, uh,

• 8:49Speaker 00

  but yeah, so the Odyssey was great. I say great. Now, listen, now, hold on. And this is what I want to say to you. And I'm just putting this out there as, as an, as something you guys can fight about in the comments, or we can, or you're listening, you can argue with you and us in your head. Is it that no one goes to the movies?

• 9:08Speaker 01

  No.

• 9:09Speaker 00

  I feel like

• 9:12Speaker 00

  people are showing up for the Odyssey because it's like finally mom cooked a good dinner, you know?

• 9:18Speaker 01

  Yes. I mean, this has been an amazing year for the box office. Like what we've seen is everybody was talking about movies are done, movies are done. And it was like, the only thing that was doing well was franchises and like superhero stuff. And everyone's like, that's what the theater is for now. It was like kind of a bummer for a lot of people. And so this is your, this is your big ticket one that has really panned out. Like it was a $250 million movie. It's a, like over 700 million right now. And it's gonna project it to do like 1.3 billion, which is phenomenal.

• 9:49Speaker 00

  Let's just be clear.

• 9:50Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 9:50Speaker 00

  Their budget was like, I think their budget's like a billion dollars.

• 9:55Speaker 01

  It's a lot, but it's not, it's not a billion.

• 9:58Speaker 00

  It's like, dude, do, pull a fucking Harvey Cormack. What's the kid's name? Harvey Cormack who did Obsession?

• 10:04Speaker 01

  Currie Barker?

• 10:04Speaker 00

  Harvey Barker. Harvey Barker. Currie Barker. Currie Barker who did Obsession.

• 10:10Speaker 01

  That was made for

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  $750,000.

• 10:11Speaker 01

  $750,000. Yeah.

• 10:13Speaker 00

  And by the way, if I talk to him man to man, I'd, I'd, I'd nudge him and go, I caught the 750 a couple of times.

• 10:19Speaker 01

  Well, yeah, I mean, he, he did what, he did what he

• 10:22Speaker 00

  I was like, I was like, I watched it. The movie's incredible. The kid's a fucking genius.

• 10:28Speaker 01

  Yeah. He's a comedy guy too. He's a comedy guy.

• 10:31Speaker 00

  But like at a billion dollars, I nudged him.

• 10:34Speaker 01

  Oh, before I forget, before I forget, we're gonna be at MacDill Air Force Base.

• 10:41Speaker 01

  13th, 4th. We're doing a meet and greet, August 14th at 11 a.m. at the MacDill Exchange. We're bottle signing. We're doing a meet and greet with our servicemen and women. Just to say hi, to say thank you, just to, they're, it's just, it's great to be in that environment. It's what's been super fun in the past. So we're doing it again. MacDill Air Force Base, and we will be at the Exchange, August 14th at 11 a.m. Bert and I together.

• 11:08Speaker 00

  And by the way, if MacDill Air Force Base wants to throw in a workout, I'm ready to work out with the boys.

• 11:12Speaker 01

  Okay, good. That's good.

• 11:16Speaker 00

  I saw, I saw, I saw, um, Project Hail Mary.

• 11:21Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's great.

• 11:22Speaker 00

  I only saw, I only saw the first, up until he meets, uh, Chunky or whatever.

• 11:27Speaker 01

  Chunky?

• 11:28Speaker 00

  I was on a plane.

• 11:30Speaker 01

  Oh, it's great.

• 11:31Speaker 00

  By the way, I tried to read the book. The book, and like, okay, I, obviously, if you wrote the book and you watch or are watching our podcast, which I doubt very highly, Andy Weir.

• 11:41Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 11:42Speaker 00

  I, I just want to say that like, I'm not a reader, but like, I tried to read the books. Everyone said how great the book was.

• 11:49Speaker 00

  The movie did such a better job of cutting to the chase.

• 11:52Speaker 01

  It's great. I thought the movie, I was so surprised. I just heard everyone saying it was good. And I was like, all right, I was really impressed with it. I thought it was

• 12:00Speaker 00

  I'm halfway through. I gotta watch the rest tonight.

• 12:02Speaker 01

  You will.

• 12:02Speaker 00

  But like, Leanne and I got the audiobooks. We were gonna do a road trip.

• 12:05Speaker 01

  Yeah.

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  And I was like, Project Hail Mary is really great. Four hours into the road trip, he still hasn't figured out who he is or what he's doing into the audiobook. And then Leanne looks, it's a 15 hour audiobook. We're like, we don't have time for this shit.

• 12:20Speaker 01

  You gave it four hours though?

• 12:21Speaker 00

  We gave it four hours and he's still like, two plus two.

• 12:27Speaker 00

  Who are the dead people? Like?

• 12:29Speaker 01

  Is it the same voice in the audiobook? One voice does it all?

• 12:32Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 12:33Speaker 01

  It is. Okay.

• 12:34Speaker 00

  Well, it's only one person in the whole fucking movie.

• 12:36Speaker 01

  Well, I don't know. I didn't know how it, I mean, there's more people in the movie, actually.

• 12:40Speaker 00

  Yeah, but, oh, yeah, yeah. But technically, I also, I started, I read the book, like a year ago, I started reading the book.

• 12:46Speaker 01

  Hold on, you did read the book?

• 12:47Speaker 00

  I tried to read, I tried to read the book. I got like 50 pages in and it's just one dude talking to himself. And I'm like, I can't just sit and listen to one dude talking to himself.

• 12:57Speaker 01

  Why? That's what you would do.

• 12:58Speaker 00

  I, dude, don't think I didn't put myself in that movie about how fucking, what I would do.

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  Yeah.

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• 16:57Speaker 01

  What kind of shoes do you have on?

• 16:59Speaker 00

  Ooh, thank you very much. These are Saba.

• 17:03Speaker 01

  Yeah. I told you, I knew what they were.

• 17:05Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, how do you know? So, so we got into a fight. We got into a fight, Leanne. Not a fight, not a fight.

• 17:11Speaker 01

  An argument?

• 17:12Speaker 00

  We got into a disagreement.

• 17:13Speaker 01

  About?

• 17:14Speaker 00

  I started wanting to wear billionaire shoes.

• 17:16Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 17:17Speaker 00

  Cause I feel like, I feel like my wardrobe is, uh, arrested. Like my wardrobe is

• 17:25Speaker 01

  You've mentioned this before, by the way. You've mentioned this several times, that you think you dress like a juvenile.

• 17:30Speaker 00

  I dress like a juvenile. I wear the same jeans, the same shirts. I wear the same hats. I wear, and I wear flip flops. By the way, the flip flops I have right now are the best flip flops. I gotta give a shout out to these. Hari Mari, Harry Mary, Hari Mari. I don't know how to say them. I wish they had a different name. They're the best fucking flip flops I've ever owned. They're the Nokona flip flops. And I have like eight pairs. I love them. But I, I can't wear flip flops everywhere when I go out to eat and stuff. And so I bought these in Atlanta at the Forth and Leanne was mocking them.

• 18:03Speaker 01

  How come?

• 18:04Speaker 00

  Cause she goes, you look like you're trying to be a rich guy.

• 18:07Speaker 01

  In those?

• 18:08Speaker 00

  These are rich guy shoes.

• 18:09Speaker 01

  Are they?

• 18:10Speaker 00

  A hundred percent.

• 18:11Speaker 01

  I saw, here's how I know about them. I saw a, a thing online about Sabas. And just that the people who have them, it has like a cult following, like they keep them for like a decade.

• 18:24Speaker 00

  They're comfortable as shit. They remind me of Toms. I loved Toms.

• 18:28Speaker 01

  Like great walk around shoes, right?

• 18:30Speaker 00

  Yeah, they're really comfortable and I really enjoy them and they're, and they're nice leather.

• 18:34Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 18:35Speaker 00

  And I bought them as a joke, cause I put them on and I flew home. And then I walked into the house with them on yesterday. I just got home from Atlanta yesterday. And I walked home and knees and Leanne goes, Georgia and I were like, I like your shoes. And I was like, do not tell mom.

• 18:47Speaker 01

  And she was

• 18:47Speaker 00

  And then Leanne's like, you bought those stupid things?

• 18:51Speaker 01

  You look like you're trying to be a rich guy?

• 18:53Speaker 00

  Yeah. Well, cause I went through this phase. We went to Naples.

• 18:55Speaker 01

  Are they sweaty? Are they sweaty shoes?

• 18:57Speaker 00

  No, no, no. They've, they're, I mean, they're absolutely perfect.

• 19:02Speaker 01

  Really? Okay. What was your phase you went through? Rich guy shoes?

• 19:06Speaker 00

  I went through a phase, I was at, we were in Naples and we were at a really nice resort for my birthday this past year. It's when I started using Manjaro. It's the week I started using Manjaro.

• 19:15Speaker 01

  What is the, can you hit the one that says, why are rich guys obsessed with, uh, and you, far left? Oh, I'm sorry. The one with shoes on it, I thought.

• 19:23Speaker 01

  Is it the same article? Oh, yeah, it is. Okay.

• 19:28Speaker 00

  So I was, I went to dinner one night and I had Nike SB Dunk's on. Cause that's the only shoe I had.

• 19:36Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 19:37Speaker 00

  And I looked around and it's a really nice resort. And I just kind of stuck out and I was like, what's everyone else wearing? And everyone else had, like, it looked like they had shoes you'd buy at a gift shop, right? Like, you know, like how rich people kind of just shop at the resort they're in?

• 19:53Speaker 01

  Sure.

• 19:53Speaker 00

  And then they wear that. And I, and I was like, well, shit, maybe I gotta step up my game. So I started looking, that's where I learned about ons. And now they're my favorite running shoe.

• 20:03Speaker 01

  Yeah, those are great.

• 20:04Speaker 00

  So that's the number one billionaire rich shoe is the on.

• 20:08Speaker 01

  They like those, okay.

• 20:09Speaker 00

  They wear, it's the one you're not supposed to tie. You just slide on every billionaire, pull it up. Every billionaire wears ons.

• 20:15Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 20:16Speaker 00

  And I went into an ons store after I learned this. And I was like, how are your shoes for, how are your running shoes? I do like running. And I ended up buying, I, I end up jogging in ons. I love running in these shoes. But I got the, the fi, the carbon fiber plate, the cheat shoes. So I'm running crazy right now.

• 20:34Speaker 01

  Springing forward.

• 20:34Speaker 00

  Let's not even talk about fitness and drinking. That is, that is, uh, fat is a fucking totally different podcast.

• 20:43Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 20:43Speaker 00

  But, but, um, I love running in these, but I learned about ons because billionaires, type in billionaire on. Cause that's their shoe, that's the shoe they wear. And then there's like a, there's top 10 shoes billionaires wear. And so I started looking at them.

• 20:57Speaker 01

  There's top five billionaire shoes worn.

• 20:59Speaker 00

  Let me see, let me see, let me see. Oh my God, I think I saw this article. Oh, it's on TikTok. It's not an article.

• 21:06Speaker 01

  Yeah, okay.

• 21:07Speaker 00

  I love when I tell people I read a book and they're like, I saw that on TikTok also.

• 21:11Speaker 01

  There he is.

• 21:11Speaker 03

  These are the top five shoes billionaires are wearing this fall. Number one, the Laura Piana Summer Walk. The billionaire's default setting, soft suede, hand stitched and silent on marble. You don't buy these thing you'd wear. You buy them to disappear in the right crowd. Number two, the On Cloud Fives.

• 21:28Speaker 00

  That's it.

• 21:28Speaker 03

  When a yacht owner goes for a walk.

• 21:30Speaker 01

  There you go.

• 21:30Speaker 03

  Billionaires and retired hedge fund guys, they're all rocking these.

• 21:33Speaker 00

  That's the one.

• 21:34Speaker 03

  The comfort apparently is a power move. Number three, the Zania Triple Stitch. For the man who still takes calls on vacation, butter soft.

• 21:41Speaker 01

  That's what I have on right now.

• 21:42Speaker 00

  Are you fucking serious?

• 21:44Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 21:44Speaker 03

  You see them in crack.

• 21:45Speaker 00

  Are you serious?

• 21:46Speaker 03

  Next to the phone that never rings. Number four, the Todd Scamino Loafer. Every Italian billionaire owns a pair or five. Pebbled soles.

• 21:53Speaker 00

  See, I wanna look like that guy.

• 21:55Speaker 01

  You wanna look like him?

• 21:57Speaker 00

  Like, I, I wanna do, like, I wanna do all that shit.

• 22:00Speaker 03

  Old money, energy, polished leather.

• 22:02Speaker 01

  That's not you.

• 22:03Speaker 03

  No noise.

• 22:04Speaker 01

  The loafer's not you.

• 22:05Speaker 03

  It's a bloodline. So which one of these quiet luxury?

• 22:07Speaker 01

  You got the one, you got the perfect, you transitioned from SB Dunk's to the ons, which is great. And then you have your Sabas now. This is good.

• 22:15Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 22:16Speaker 01

  So wait, is it more than just shoes or you're trying to change your whole appearance?

• 22:20Speaker 00

  I have, I've actually, I've actually reassessed a lot of things in my life.

• 22:25Speaker 01

  Like, you're talking like, you're like, look?

• 22:29Speaker 00

  Uh, not my look.

• 22:31Speaker 01

  Pretty, you know, up elevated.

• 22:33Speaker 00

  Yeah, but I've always, I've always worn hats. This is, uh.

• 22:35Speaker 01

  Yeah, but sometimes you wear base, that looks more elevated than a baseball cap.

• 22:39Speaker 00

  Yeah, I bought, um, I bought a couple of the LBJ, uh, Stetsons. I watched a documentary on LBJ and he was kind of a fucking badass.

• 22:49Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 22:49Speaker 00

  And he had a certain Stetson he wore, so I bought like all his Stetsons. And then, cause you know, I kinda get into like a celebrity and then like an older celebrity, like a historical figure? And then deep dive their shit.

• 23:04Speaker 00

  I've been, uh, I mean, no one's gonna like this conversation, but I kind of have gotten into, I'm not even gonna say it cause it's so fucking arrogant. But yeah, like I, I think it's minimalist. Like I'm trying to go more minimal for me to get, be more grounded.

• 23:20Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 23:20Speaker 00

  So like I, I'm not trying to go as fancy as I, I think I would buy fancy things like watches or somewhat jewelry to make me feel better about myself. And then I realized that doesn't make you feel better. You should feel better by yourself. Uh, this is all going through sobriety. Sobriety really fucked me up.

• 23:39Speaker 01

  Are you drinking again?

• 23:40Speaker 00

  Uh, no. And so, no and yes. I mean, yes, like a regular person, but no, like Burt. And so.

• 23:48Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 23:49Speaker 00

  So I can have a couple glasses of champagne. I can have a glass of porosos. If I can't drink like I used to, I, it fucks me up. I don't know.

• 24:00Speaker 01

  But is that, but you're still on medication?

• 24:03Speaker 00

  I'm still on medication, but I don't know if that's it. Cause everyone drinks on blood dinners. I didn't drink for seven months on blood dinners because I wanted the medicine to work. And then at a certain point, the doctor's like, you know, blood, blood cut's gone. You know, if you wanna have a drink, you can have a drink. So I've been pushing through, trying to get to drinking, but I've also embraced not drinking a lot. And, and not drinking on like a Monday night is like a crazy new thing.

• 24:28Speaker 01

  Really?

• 24:29Speaker 00

  Yeah. Yeah, but you know, you, you know, sober people die too. Like sober people die just as much as drunk people.

• 24:35Speaker 01

  You feel like it would suck to die sober?

• 24:38Speaker 00

  Well, no, it just, it's like, I, I've had real anxiety about health. I, okay. I'm unpacking a little bit and I'm not gonna pack a ton. So I didn't realize how traumatic the blood clot getting into my lungs and in my leg. And I didn't understand how traumatic that really was for me. I think I just got through it and I launched, you know, Free Burt and I had the special launch, I think, or maybe, I don't know. I feel like I had a lot going on over the last seven months. And I also was focusing on not drinking or smoking weed. And then when all of that kind of calmed down, I dealt with the fact that I, I went through a really scary thing. And I had faced mortality for the first time in my life.

• 25:18Speaker 00

  And, and then out of nowhere, this last month, I've had really crazy anxiety attacks. And crazy anxiety attacks without drinking are terrifying because you don't have an out. Like you just gotta deal with it and sit in them. And, and I, and I was angry. I was angry at sobriety because I was like, this is stupid. If this is what sobriety is, I'm fucking done. Like this is not what I signed up for. If I'm like, I'm not saying like sober sober, but like not drinking 12 days and then maybe having a glass of champagne at dinner. That's what I was doing. And so wouldn't drink maybe 14 days and then have a couple of glasses of, or like a beer at dinner.

• 26:02Speaker 00

  And then Cotty called me and she was like, stop with all of this and just go back to drinking. Like just like, just go back to being regular. Like this is not, like I, Tom, I got so in the weeds that like Leanne could not, she was like, I can't talk about this anymore. Like I was, I was like.

• 26:21Speaker 01

  At what point?

• 26:23Speaker 00

  This is, I was seven months in.

• 26:26Speaker 01

  Oh, you mean so recently?

• 26:27Speaker 00

  Very recently, this last month.

• 26:29Speaker 01

  Talking about you.

• 26:32Speaker 00

  Just about anxiety.

• 26:33Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 26:33Speaker 00

  And about, and about health. Like I got really crazy about working out because when you're sober, and by, and by the way, I'm not, I'm not like sober, but for me it's sober, right? Like for anyone else, it's like regular for you. I mean, it's just regular, Tom.

• 26:48Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 26:48Speaker 00

  But for me, it's very sober, drinking very minimally. And my happy place became the gym. And my, my serotonin dump of working out became my, my joy. And when that would run out, I, I would be like, so then what's left in life? And if this is all you get is the best part of the day is at five in the morning, when you crush chest and tries, get on the treadmill, run four miles in 39 minutes, cause you're trying to beat your time. And then, and then I got so neurotic about it. I was like, I don't know who I am. I don't know what I'm doing. And, and also I was really stressed because we were shooting the show and I wanted to be present for the show. And I wanted to be the best.

• 27:32Speaker 00

  I didn't wanna get hammered during production, but I'll tell you what, I've gotten hammered for every production I've ever done.

• 27:38Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 27:39Speaker 00

  Every time, and I loved it. I was, I was like, everything was joyful. So I don't know, I, I'm dealing with a lot. I'm, I, I'm trying to figure out, I'm trying to figure out like some sort of middle ground. But like, I just, I can't.

• 27:55Speaker 01

  You mean, and you don't think the continued sobriety we're doing is like just for the, how you feel about it is fine?

• 28:03Speaker 00

  So like, I know it's not bad. I know it's good for me. So I'm doing it because I know it's not bad, but there has to be a middle ground. And I, and I think I've gotten very teetotaly where like, when I'm in drinking mode, the, my favorite thing is the spontaneity and how life just kind of moves and is fluid and anything can happen.

• 28:21Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 28:21Speaker 00

  And, and I go, oh, this is gonna be a fun fucking day. We're, we're, we're getting after it. And then when I'm, when I'm sober, I, I end up becoming very neurotic about alcohol. Like I, I end up going like, like I, I look at it nice, like, um.

• 28:35Speaker 01

  And that's what's exhausting like for Leanne to hear.

• 28:38Speaker 00

  Yeah, cause I go, she's like, let's, let's get on, have dinner. And I go, great. And then they go, can I get something to drink? And Leanne's like, I'll have the champagne. And she goes, Burt? And I go, no.

• 28:47Speaker 01

  You're talking the same stuff that like other people who go sober say, it's exactly the same.

• 28:52Speaker 00

  I, I definitely have a lot to work on internally. So we're doubling up on therapy right now.

• 28:57Speaker 01

  Good.

• 28:57Speaker 00

  To try to figure out what is going on with me. Cause here's the deal, I will not quit drinking. I want to drink.

• 29:04Speaker 01

  I know.

• 29:05Speaker 00

  I know, but I want, I like it. I like that life. I like a cold beer and I like a fucking tall vodka and I like. I like champagne and I like, I like mimosas and I like, I like Tom Collins and I like, I like, I love.

• 29:16Speaker 01

  You like it all, I know.

• 29:17Speaker 00

  I love it all.

• 29:18Speaker 01

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• 31:33Speaker 00

  But where my brain's at right now, it's like, it's not, I don't think my brain's super healthy. Leanne wants me to go on meds.

• 31:40Speaker 01

  What, like SSRIs?

• 31:42Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 31:43Speaker 01

  You think that'd be bad?

• 31:44Speaker 00

  My anxiety is, my anxiety is through the fucking roof. I mean, I can create. I had, no joke, within one month, I had 12 confirmed deadly illnesses.

• 31:57Speaker 01

  What?

• 31:58Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah.

• 31:58Speaker 01

  What are you talking about?

• 31:59Speaker 00

  I believed I had 12, no less than 12.

• 32:04Speaker 01

  Terminal diseases?

• 32:05Speaker 00

  Terminal diseases.

• 32:07Speaker 01

  In a month?

• 32:08Speaker 00

  In one month.

• 32:09Speaker 01

  Yeah, that sounds exhausting to deal with.

• 32:11Speaker 00

  In, in one month, I had, I had skin cancer twice. I had blood clots again. I got them every time.

• 32:19Speaker 01

  These are just in your head?

• 32:21Speaker 00

  In my head. I had, I had a mini-stroke. I had a heat stroke. I had a stye that was confirmed. I have, I've gone septic, sepsis, what's it called?

• 32:34Speaker 01

  Uh huh.

• 32:35Speaker 00

  Uh, I'm pretty, pretty sure I've got some internal problems. I'm not like, but I would just, Tom, I mean.

• 32:44Speaker 01

  Get on those meds, dude.

• 32:46Speaker 00

  Anyone, anyone that has, can I tell you, can I tell you what I say?

• 32:49Speaker 01

  What?

• 32:50Speaker 00

  I didn't, I wasn't like this when I was drinking.

• 32:53Speaker 01

  I think this is, the therapy's good and so is the potential meds.

• 32:57Speaker 00

  I will be drinking in Tampa.

• 32:59Speaker 01

  Okay, I know.

• 33:00Speaker 00

  At Bill Air Force Base. I will be, and you will too.

• 33:02Speaker 01

  I will, yes, I will, yes.

• 33:04Speaker 00

  And we will.

• 33:04Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 33:05Speaker 00

  And I bet you outdrink me.

• 33:07Speaker 01

  I'd love to, that'd be the first time ever.

• 33:11Speaker 00

  I would, I would love to dabble with weed a little bit.

• 33:14Speaker 01

  That's fine.

• 33:15Speaker 00

  Terrified, I'm terrified with my brain. It's, I can't trust my brain.

• 33:19Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 33:20Speaker 00

  My brain is like this fucking asshole who did not, never has liked me, but he's stayed close to my family so he can fuck with me.

• 33:33Speaker 01

  Okay, so, Jesus Christ. I see what she's going through.

• 33:37Speaker 00

  Hey, um, let's get back to, can we just, I want to talk about movies.

• 33:40Speaker 01

  Harvey Cormack, yeah.

• 33:41Speaker 00

  Because I saw, go ahead. Have you seen Obsession?

• 33:45Speaker 01

  I have, I've seen it twice. Um, I, I have, yes. And I, I really like it. I really like it a lot. I, I think I mentioned why, one of the reasons I like it so much is that story-wise, one of the things you'll, you always hear this when you talk to any writer, you'll hear it from producers who are looking for movies. And I think it's a great thing for somebody who's out there who's like, I want to make a movie, I want to, is that this guy's, forget like the ups and downs and the twists and turns of it, but the story is so clear. So this is kind of a spoiler alert, right? So I'm giving you a spoiler alert for those of

• 34:24Speaker 01

  you who had not just seen it. Um, so don't get mad. Um, but frame one of the film, frame one, you understand that this guy really likes this girl. He's rehearsing for what he wants to tell her. And you set up that, you know, his friend's like, dude, fucking, this is embarrassing. Like, he's like, he's like, ah, but I want to tell, he wants, he wants to tell his friend. Basically, the next, in the next couple scenes, you understand that like, everything is like, how he feels about this girl. Then you're at a bar, again, I already give you a spoiler alert. You're at a bar where he's with the girl and his friend and somebody else, and he's like nervous to be around her because he wants to tell

• 35:09Speaker 01

  her how he feels, right? And then this probably like, within the first 10 minutes of the film, the turning point of like, why it's called obsession, happens. And then you're on the ride. So just from like a storytelling point of view, everything is very clear. I think it's, one of the reasons it's done well worldwide is that everybody can relate to this story. You like somebody a lot. And then the fact that like, the hook is the hook of it, is also very easy to understand. A lot of times you watch movies and whether you're five, 10, 30 minutes into the movie, you're like, what is happening? And what is the story?

• 35:51Speaker 01

  What's happening in this movie? And you could feel any way about this movie, but you can't feel like the story isn't clear. Like, the clarity of the story is something to really think about when you want to tell stories. You understand what is happening from the minute this movie starts and you understand the ride you're on 10 minutes in. It's very clear. That's one of the things about the movie that I think lends itself to its success. Of course, there's, there's, it's a psychological twisted movie that like, has all these, you know, twists and turns, I guess you could say, that, that come from what happens, but

• 36:33Speaker 01

  it's very, very clear what you're watching. It's very, the story is very clear.

• 36:38Speaker 00

  It's shot beautifully.

• 36:39Speaker 01

  Beautifully, for that budget too. It looks, it looks great, man.

• 36:43Speaker 00

  It's shot beautifully and it is, the actors are really great.

• 36:48Speaker 01

  They're great. I think, I thought it was cast really well. It was cast very well.

• 36:51Speaker 00

  That young lady who plays the fucking.

• 36:55Speaker 01

  The girl, the main girl.

• 36:56Speaker 00

  I mean, there's a moment, big time spoiler alert, Sandra, close your ears, uh, when she says, "Kill me."

• 37:07Speaker 01

  Yes, yes.

• 37:08Speaker 00

  I, I was, it was like, whoa.

• 37:11Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah.

• 37:12Speaker 00

  Whoa, she's asleep right now. Oh my God, that was fucking, it was great. Now here's the question, okay? So like, uh, blast off hit, everyone loved it. I think in part also the young generation likes it because they haven't, you want your thing to rally around. Like, you don't, you don't want to like your parents' movies, you know? You want your thing.

• 37:34Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 37:34Speaker 00

  You want to have your own. And this is their TikTok movie. This guy's a TikTok star. He did their thing. It's the same thing as the other guy who did Iron Lung. Like, he did it, Iron Lung's apparently even better.

• 37:46Speaker 01

  Iron Lung?

• 37:47Speaker 00

  Yeah, it's, there's, so there's three movies that came out, Back Doors or something, or Trick Doors, Slap Doors, Back Doors, Back Doors, Iron Lung, and this, which were.

• 37:58Speaker 01

  Is that the Back Rooms one?

• 37:59Speaker 00

  Back Rooms, Back Rooms, Back Rooms.

• 38:02Speaker 01

  What's it called?

• 38:02Speaker 00

  Back Rooms Casting Couch, I think.

• 38:04Speaker 01

  Yeah, Back Rooms, right?

• 38:05Speaker 00

  Back Rooms Casting Couch. And that and Iron Lung. And those movies have done great because they've, they've gathered, you know, a lot like, uh, Theo and David Spades did is they gather a fan base that loves them already and gets them to the theaters.

• 38:21Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 38:22Speaker 00

  I mean, I don't think, what's the interesting?

• 38:24Speaker 01

  The Back Rooms guy had a huge YouTube following. I know that, that was a big YouTube for Back Rooms, yes.

• 38:29Speaker 00

  And this guy, Iron Lung guy, was a streamer and he had a huge following.

• 38:33Speaker 01

  Was this, is Iron Lung the one where he had them follow along, like his whole path of making the movie?

• 38:41Speaker 00

  I don't think so.

• 38:43Speaker 01

  I think he did. I want to say he did.

• 38:47Speaker 01

  Yeah, so he previously played on his YouTube channel, stated that it would be self-written, self-financed star himself, and he, he brought them along on that, on that journey of like, I'm gonna be making this movie.

• 39:01Speaker 00

  Now, here's my question.

• 39:03Speaker 01

  Tell me.

• 39:03Speaker 00

  What is a movie that you saw that you knew nothing about? That you said, cause I have a couple of versions. I have the morons version, and then I have a version you haven't heard of, and then I have the version you've heard of.

• 39:20Speaker 01

  Huh, I don't know what you mean.

• 39:22Speaker 00

  Like a sleeper movie that was like, came from out of nowhere, you watched and you sat up, and you're like, that's one of the greatest movies I've ever fucking seen.

• 39:29Speaker 01

  Oh, Jesus.

• 39:30Speaker 00

  Cause that's what everyone's saying that about Obsession.

• 39:33Speaker 01

  Well, yeah, I know what you mean, that like, this came out of no, well, there was the one, the, that was so crazy years ago, where it was supposed to be a handheld camera.

• 39:44Speaker 00

  Oh, Salem Witch Trials.

• 39:47Speaker 01

  Yeah, was that, was it called?

• 39:49Speaker 00

  Blair Witch.

• 39:49Speaker 01

  Blair Witch. Blair Witch was one where that it was like, have you heard of this? Have you seen this? Yeah, that was 99. Uh, for those of you that haven't seen it, it was like, the whole thing was like, it was supposed to be, like, the audience feels like they're watching handheld.

• 40:07Speaker 00

  Found footage.

• 40:07Speaker 01

  Yeah, found footage, exactly.

• 40:09Speaker 00

  It was the first found footage movie, I think.

• 40:11Speaker 01

  I don't know if that's true or not, but it was a, it was a huge surprise success, right?

• 40:16Speaker 00

  Can I, can I come out and say that I thought the movie was I? Like, when I watched it, I was like, there's one terrifying part, but I was like, it's I.

• 40:26Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 40:26Speaker 00

  I said that, I.

• 40:28Speaker 01

  You said that I, yeah?

• 40:29Speaker 00

  Yeah. Can I tell you a movie that's even better than that, that I bet you haven't seen, and I think is, I walked out of a movie theater and I was like, this is one of the greatest movies I've ever seen in my entire life?

• 40:39Speaker 01

  What's that?

• 40:40Speaker 00

  Run Lola Run.

• 40:41Speaker 01

  Oh, I've seen that.

• 40:42Speaker 00

  How great is that?

• 40:43Speaker 01

  It's a great movie, yeah. It's great.

• 40:45Speaker 00

  Fucking incredible.

• 40:47Speaker 01

  There's also, what was the one? Hannah? That was, is that, was that what it's called?

• 40:52Speaker 00

  Oh, is that about the little girl?

• 40:54Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 40:55Speaker 00

  Oh, Hannah was fucking awesome.

• 40:57Speaker 01

  That was great. I don't think that's, I don't know if that's, I guess it's kind of a sleeper when it came out. That was really good. But Run Lola Run's great.

• 41:04Speaker 00

  Can I tell you The Moron Choice?

• 41:05Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 41:06Speaker 00

  This is the greatest movie I've ever seen.

• 41:09Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 41:09Speaker 00

  That, as I say it, everyone's gonna go, are you serious?

• 41:12Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 41:14Speaker 00

  The Butterfly Effect.

• 41:16Speaker 01

  That's your favorite movie?

• 41:20Speaker 00

  That movie fucked me up for like a week.

• 41:24Speaker 00

  I love time travel.

• 41:27Speaker 00

  I love Ashton Kutcher.

• 41:28Speaker 01

  Oh, I'm thinking of a different movie.

• 41:31Speaker 01

  Is that the one?

• 41:33Speaker 00

  The kid wrote it and directed it and self-financed it and got Ashton Kutcher, cause they were boys, to do it. And I wanna see, what did the, the budget had to be low, but that was the one that like came out and everyone was like, oh, this is gonna be.

• 41:48Speaker 01

  Thirteen million.

• 41:49Speaker 00

  Oh, that's not a low budget.

• 41:50Speaker 01

  In 04, yeah, that's not that low.

• 41:52Speaker 00

  Seventeen.

• 41:53Speaker 01

  I was thinking of something else with a similar name where the guy's in a wheelchair the whole time.

• 41:58Speaker 00

  That's Butterfly Effect.

• 42:00Speaker 01

  No.

• 42:01Speaker 00

  That's Butterfly Effect. You know, no, he's in a wheelchair. He has no arms and no hands.

• 42:04Speaker 01

  Really?

• 42:05Speaker 00

  Yeah, he's, yeah. It's so good.

• 42:09Speaker 01

  And it's super depressing?

• 42:12Speaker 00

  Uh, no. Yes, it is. They give me less.

• 42:15Speaker 01

  I was thinking, no, there's something another one, though, where a guy's in a wheelchair. It's not, it wasn't a famous act, it wasn't Ashton Kutcher. Look for their paralyzed movie source.

• 42:24Speaker 00

  Go, go into movies, name movies that you saw that you knew nothing about, that you sat down and you, and you witnessed and you went, holy shit. Now, I'm gonna tell you the first one I ever saw. I knew nothing about this movie. I knew nothing about this movie. I'm 11 years old, or maybe, maybe 12. The Karate Kid.

• 42:45Speaker 01

  Oh, Spies Like Us. I didn't know what that was.

• 42:47Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 42:48Speaker 01

  And I was like, fuck. You know, you know which one fucked me up? My fucking friend,

• 42:54Speaker 01

  uh, was like, you gotta, he's, all he says is, you gotta go see this movie. And I like that when they're like, you don't, you don't know anything. And I went to see Primal Fear.

• 43:02Speaker 00

  Oh, with Edward Norton?

• 43:04Speaker 01

  Yeah, and here's what my fucking asshole friend Steve did. He sits next to me, we're watching this whole movie. I don't know anything about the movie, and I'm into the, I'm into it. And then, you know the big twist in this movie, right? I mean, it's been.

• 43:17Speaker 00

  He's gay.

• 43:19Speaker 01

  No, it's, the, the twist is that the Edward Norton character is playing like a moron, right?

• 43:28Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 43:28Speaker 01

  And he's actually, yeah, he's actually this sadistic psychopath who knows what he's doing. He's pretending to be dumb.

• 43:38Speaker 00

  Such, every one of those Tom, every one of those is the best.

• 43:41Speaker 01

  This guy does. He's, we're watching the movie. Steve got me to go to the movie. He's sitting next to me. He's already seen it. And I'm watching the movie, and as it's about to be revealed, he's like, dude, you're not even gonna believe what's about to happen, right? I go, what the fuck are you doing? He's like, this is so fucking crazy what's about to happen. And I'm like, bro, you're taking the air out of this right now. So I get, I'm watching it, and then instead of like discovering it, he's in my ear going, how fucking crazy is this? And I'm like, shut the fuck up.

• 44:14Speaker 00

  Wait, I've got the, I know I've told you this, but I'm gonna say it again. This is my favorite movie-going experience. Uh, I'm 26 years old, and, uh, Sixth Sense comes out.

• 44:26Speaker 01

  Oh, that was another one. That was another one.

• 44:29Speaker 00

  I go on a date to like 27th Street and like Park Avenue or something. I go on a date, it's a sold-out movie theater. So we're sitting next to people, and I'm sitting next to a black dude with dreadlocks that's roughly my same age. And me and this black dude get that he's dead at the exact same moment.

• 44:48Speaker 01

  Earlier than everyone else?

• 44:50Speaker 00

  No, no, no, no, we got it later, I think, ever than everyone else.

• 44:54Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 44:54Speaker 00

  So, we got away later, like, like, and but it started with the black guy goes, he's like, he's like, oh shit, oh shit, she's cheating on him. And I was like, she's cheating on him. He's like, that's why she shouldn't have his wedding ring on. He goes, wait, he doesn't have his wedding ring on. I go, he's cheating on her. And he's like, no, no, his stomach, he's, oh my God. I go, wait, no. And he goes, I think, and I was like, is he, me and this black guy, I never met this guy.

• 45:24Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 45:25Speaker 00

  We, we figured it out at the exact same moment. We shared that moment, and then we left the theater and we sat on the corner of the street, breaking down the movie together. We had never met each other. We didn't know each other. We were both on dates. And then he said to me, what are you doing now? Do you wanna keep talking about this? Go have a drink? And I was like, I would love that. And his girl was like, bitch, we're on a date. And he was like, oh, I gotta go, man.

• 45:44Speaker 01

  I gotta go. I remember the surprise, it was again, that was around the time too, where people were like, you just gotta go see this movie. I remember also, not that this was like a sleeper hit, but I didn't know what I was gonna see with Pulp Fiction. You know what I mean? It was just like, people were like, you gotta go see this movie. So the experience of like, I don't know what this movie is, it's, what is this, 93, I think?

• 46:09Speaker 00

  Yeah, it was when I lived in the fraternity house.

• 46:12Speaker 01

  So, yeah, I was just like, I mean, I'm, whatever, I'm like 14 when this movie comes out.

• 46:16Speaker 00

  Oh, my God.

• 46:16Speaker 01

  And, yeah, and I go to the theater, and I was just like, you know, you know what it is, but that experience of like, uh, there's nothing like this was fucking amazing. Yeah, that was amazing.

• 46:28Speaker 00

  Usual Suspects.

• 46:30Speaker 01

  Another one, another.

• 46:31Speaker 00

  Usual Suspects. What is the best, what, what is that called? Like, what is that, like a reveal movie?

• 46:38Speaker 01

  Yeah, I mean, usually thrillers, you know, the thriller usually like, under, like, that's under the idea of a thriller is that there will be some, some twist or turn, yeah.

• 46:48Speaker 00

  Well, I wanna know the ones that were really bad, where the, where like halfway through, you're like, I'm pretty sure it's him.

• 46:54Speaker 01

  Have you seen The Prestige?

• 46:56Speaker 00

  Oh, that's another Christopher Nolan movie.

• 46:59Speaker 01

  It is, yeah, yeah.

• 47:01Speaker 00

  Fuck, yes.

• 47:02Speaker 01

  That's great.

• 47:02Speaker 00

  I wanna do The Prestige in comedy, like the Scolar Brothers. They should do a Prestige.

• 47:08Speaker 01

  What do you mean?

• 47:09Speaker 00

  I don't know.

• 47:09Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 47:11Speaker 00

  That's a great fucking movie.

• 47:13Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 47:14Speaker 00

  What is this, the best twist any movies?

• 47:15Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 47:16Speaker 00

  Oh, I love it. Oh, wait, American Beauty. Okay, keep going. Usual Suspects. Memento? I saw Memento in the movie theater, in the movie theater in LA, knew nothing about it. And I was like, shut, what a great fucking movie. By the way, can I just say this? And I'm, and I'm just putting this out there. The average 22-year-old, the average person that's went to Obsession, hasn't seen any of these movies.

• 47:40Speaker 01

  You're probably right. At least a lot have not. Memento, for everything said about what Christopher Nolan's done over the last 10 to 15 years, if you have never seen Memento, you're in for a treat, man. That is such a brilliant movie. Whiplash is great, Fight Club.

• 47:58Speaker 00

  Fight Club, dude, saw Fight Club, knew nothing about it. Saw that in the, in this, what is it, the Arama Dome? You know, the one on Sunset?

• 48:06Speaker 01

  Cinerama Dome, yeah.

• 48:06Speaker 00

  Saw it in the Cinerama Dome, knew nothing about it. By the way, I just watched this the other day, a clip on something online. Bombed in the box office, trashed by critics, and Brad Pitt, your boy, said to Edward Norton in cons, they're booing the greatest movie I've ever done.

• 48:25Speaker 01

  Really?

• 48:26Speaker 00

  And to this day, it made its money back on DVDs because the DVDs had all the extras. Here's one other thing I wanna share. I saw this really brilliant documentary. I'm gonna send it to you, and it was called The Rise and Fall and the Rise and Fall of Hollywood. And I think everyone right now is like trying to figure out what's going on with Hollywood. People aren't showing up at the box office the way they did. Hollywood's always had this problem and it started with television. This guy, this guy's documentary, I'm paraphrasing it. But when, before television, people went to the movie theater like three times a week.

• 48:57Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 48:57Speaker 00

  There were 90 million people going to the movie theater every week. And then the second TV showed up, they just serialized all those stories. And then all of a sudden, 10 million people are going to the movie theater. So Hollywood said, let's put more money into our movies. They did that, went great. All of a sudden, you know, fucking, and I'm paraphrasing again. Uh, VCRs show up and it fucking destroys Hollywood. But Hollywood pivots, they start making better, they start making sequels and big summer blockbusters. The first summer blockbuster was Jaws, where they put it in theaters nationwide. It was a wide release.

• 49:37Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 49:37Speaker 00

  They put a wide release on Jaws, so it was everywhere. As opposed to, they used to just put movies out there, see what hit. But Hollywood always pivots and I think Hollywood is in a pivot moment right now. And when you look at things like Iron Lung and you look at what David Spade and, and, um, Theo Von did. And when you look at what you and Ari did with, uh, with the storytellers.

• 49:58Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're right. People are getting their entertainment in different, like, direct to market stuff is a huge thing. I want to keep going through this list. Reservoir Dogs, Birdman, um, we got Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, Wild Tales. Oh, is that the Argentine one? Is that what Wild Tales is?

• 50:17Speaker 00

  It's Wild Tales.

• 50:18Speaker 01

  Dude, this is great.

• 50:20Speaker 00

  What is it? I've never seen it. I'll watch it tonight.

• 50:22Speaker 01

  Six short movies in a movie that have great twists. It's fucking great.

• 50:30Speaker 00

  I don't know. I, I know nothing.

• 50:31Speaker 01

  I won't tell you anymore.

• 50:33Speaker 00

  Wild Tales.

• 50:33Speaker 01

  It's really good.

• 50:34Speaker 00

  I would suggest everyone watching, go watch Wild Tales.

• 50:39Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 50:39Speaker 00

  And we'll all watch it and we'll talk about it the next time we come back. Keep going.

• 50:42Speaker 01

  It's really good, man. Yeah.

• 50:43Speaker 00

  Wild Tales, I'm watching it tonight.

• 50:45Speaker 01

  It's really good. Um, The Imposter.

• 50:50Speaker 00

  What's that?

• 50:50Speaker 01

  What is that?

• 50:55Speaker 01

  I don't remember this one.

• 50:56Speaker 00

  What's this?

• 50:58Speaker 01

  I don't know. I've seen that. That's one to watch. All right.

• 51:03Speaker 00

  The Imposter, I, I want to, someone grab this list. I'm going to go through and watch these. Can I tell you one of the best time travel movies? Shutter Island. Holy shit, Shutter Island.

• 51:12Speaker 01

  Primal Fear. Shout out to Steve.

• 51:14Speaker 00

  Primal Fear.

• 51:16Speaker 01

  Beautiful Mind.

• 51:17Speaker 00

  Beautiful Mind. That was a great one.

• 51:18Speaker 01

  Yep. Identity.

• 51:20Speaker 00

  Mr. Rivers, where they were a kid or something, right?

• 51:22Speaker 01

  It's part of the story. Yeah. Seven, that was a mind fuck. That was an awesome experience. That was another one that I saw in theaters. It was at that age where it was like, yeah, let's go to the movies. And you go and you see that and you're like, holy shit. That one was so fucked up. That's such a fucked up ride, especially the first time you see that. You're not ready for it.

• 51:44Speaker 00

  Hold on.

• 51:44Speaker 01

  Don't look it up. Just see it.

• 51:46Speaker 00

  How about Old Boy?

• 51:48Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's on the list too.

• 51:50Speaker 00

  Holy fuck.

• 51:51Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 51:51Speaker 00

  That was a crazy, can I make an argument?

• 51:55Speaker 01

  Make it.

• 51:56Speaker 00

  And I want to plant this seed. So when I watch Kiss Me Deadly, The Departed was fucking great.

• 52:04Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 52:04Speaker 00

  The Departed was so great. Inception, I have not seen Inception.

• 52:09Speaker 01

  You've never seen Inception?

• 52:10Speaker 00

  I've never seen Inception. I might watch Inception tonight.

• 52:16Speaker 01

  You're definitely going to be like, the fuck is going on?

• 52:18Speaker 00

  For real?

• 52:19Speaker 01

  It takes, it takes a few, I think a few viewings to even wrap your head around it.

• 52:24Speaker 00

  Will you send me, will you, Zolo, will you send me this list?

• 52:26Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 52:27Speaker 00

  Um, this is crazy. Can, can I make, can I put out an argument? Leanne and I were arguing over this today.

• 52:34Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 52:34Speaker 00

  Okay. Now I'm going to start, I'm going to start with, uh, I think. The reason there's so many comics, and by the way, so many very good comics. I mean, there are more good comics right now than there's ever been in history. There's people that I've never heard of, that I see online that write great jokes.

• 52:51Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 52:51Speaker 00

  Great jokes. And I, I think the reason there's so much great comedy is that comedy is way more accessible for everyone. I think people can watch great comedy and when you watch great comedy, you can find your voice quicker. And I think my generation, and I'll incorporate you in that. And, and like the Jim Norton, Bobby Kelly, me, you, Pete Corielli, uh, Godfrey, you know, Joe Rogan. Uh, not Shane, not Tim, they're younger, they're too young.

• 53:19Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 53:19Speaker 00

  But I think our generation, we kind of came by comedy, like it was, it was almost like a, like a real, like lunch pail way to come by comedy. And I don't mean that like, you know, but like, you had to find your sense of humor through your friends. And you usually got your sense of humor, like at a job or at, or at a lunch table or watching movies with your boys. And I think this generation, and I'll include Shane McCusker, who I think are just so wildly fucking hysterical. But like that generation, I, I think they're the top limit of it. They were the first of the meme culture where, where comedy was on their phones at a young age.

• 54:01Speaker 01

  Hmm.

• 54:01Speaker 00

  And they could read comments at a young age and go through comment sections and laugh hysterically. And kind of see how comedy was workshopped and done. Whereas my generation or Joe's generation or, or that older generation, we didn't have that. Like comedy is a weird thing. Like not everyone was funny when we were kids.

• 54:21Speaker 01

  Yeah, you can see more people being funny. You can see a lot of people being funny. I know.

• 54:25Speaker 00

  More people are funny and I would say more, like I was thinking this generation of kids. And I, and like I said, I think Shane's at the tail end of it. I think he's at the, the very top of that, that. But this generation of kids, and I was just judging it against my generation. Everyone has abs. No one had abs when I was a kid.

• 54:45Speaker 01

  Where is this going?

• 54:47Speaker 00

  Like everyone has abs, everyone's fucking funny. Everyone's got a full head of hair.

• 54:52Speaker 01

  Everyone.

• 54:52Speaker 00

  Everyone, like you go online, man, these kids are fucking crushing it. Whereas like my generation, we were a bunch of fucking slouches who like, like at times who were very not funny.

• 55:04Speaker 01

  Everyone's got abs, dude. That's the name of this episode. Everyone's got abs.

• 55:09Speaker 00

  Everyone's got fucking abs.

• 55:11Speaker 01

  I don't know about that.

• 55:12Speaker 00

  Do you know how hard it is to get abs?

• 55:13Speaker 01

  Uh, yeah, I've tried. Yeah.

• 55:16Speaker 00

  It's impossible.

• 55:17Speaker 01

  It's hard.

• 55:18Speaker 00

  And everyone's got fucking abs.

• 55:21Speaker 01

  I don't think that's true.

• 55:22Speaker 00

  Did you see Lil Wayne's abs?

• 55:23Speaker 01

  I saw Lil Wayne's abs.

• 55:24Speaker 00

  But everyone's got abs.

• 55:26Speaker 01

  I mean, part of it is that he, he weighs like 140 pounds, but yeah.

• 55:32Speaker 00

  I fucking, I know, I, I'm so far from abs right now.

• 55:36Speaker 01

  Not close.

• 55:37Speaker 00

  I have abs if I lay in bed and I try to get up real slow.

• 55:40Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 55:41Speaker 00

  You can, and you're in bed with me and the lighting's right, you can see abs.

• 55:45Speaker 01

  You can see the, like, you're like, oh, they're there.

• 55:47Speaker 00

  On the outside, not on the inside, on the outside.

• 55:49Speaker 01

  And then you get up and it's like, they're gone.

• 55:51Speaker 00

  And they're gone. The second I stand, it's, you cannot find them.

• 55:54Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 55:55Speaker 00

  They're like fucking chupacabra. They are not real.

• 55:58Speaker 01

  Maybe that's what this whole next year is about for you. See your abs.

• 56:01Speaker 00

  No. This whole next year is to find, my whole next year right now is to, is to find out, find my middle ground.

• 56:11Speaker 01

  There you go.

• 56:12Speaker 00

  With fitness, with

• 56:14Speaker 01

  Drinking.

• 56:14Speaker 00

  Obsessive compulsiveness, with anxiety, with alcohol, with marijuana.

• 56:19Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 56:20Speaker 00

  Yeah. Cigars. I mean, I went, I was smoking two cigars a day to zero cigars a day.

• 56:25Speaker 01

  Jesus. Are you still smoking cigars now or no?

• 56:28Speaker 00

  I just brought a box over. Yeah.

• 56:31Speaker 01

  I got cigars too. Um, all right. Well, look, we got to run. Um, we will see you guys at MacDill Air Force Base at the MacDill Exchange, August 14th.

• 56:39Speaker 00

  Cigars and alcohol.

• 56:41Speaker 01

  Alcohol. 11 a.m. we'll be there.

• 56:42Speaker 00

  And I'd love to work out with you guys in the morning if we can. If anyone at the, at the Air Force Base wants to like a Colonel or a Sergeant or an Admiral, wants to do like a crazy fucking circuit training with me, high intent, I'd love to do that. I would love that shit. I got so fired up. Hold on, let's just end on this. Can I tell you what got, got my dick hard as fuck?

• 57:03Speaker 01

  Sure.

• 57:03Speaker 00

  Is, as like a straight meathead. Dude, two weeks ago was like first reporting back to camp with all the college kids going to fucking football camp. At football, you know, like getting ready for the season.

• 57:16Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 57:16Speaker 00

  And they were all deadlifting in the gym where they're setting PRs and they're losing their fucking minds, dude.

• 57:23Speaker 01

  Where at? Where were you?

• 57:25Speaker 00

  Everywhere.

• 57:25Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 57:26Speaker 00

  Texas A&M, Florida State, Florida.

• 57:28Speaker 01

  Oh, you were watching these.

• 57:29Speaker 00

  I was watching them online. Dude, I follow the Florida strength coach because I watched him. I think he, he cleaned like 485 pounds or something. Like dude, I got so fucking rocked off on these dudes just fucking, that energy.

• 57:45Speaker 01

  I saw a coach, a coach somewhere do incline dumbbell, dumbbells with 170s. Just easy peasy. Do you know what I'm talking about?

• 57:55Speaker 00

  No, no. Did you see Matt Liner do it?

• 57:59Speaker 01

  No.

• 58:00Speaker 00

  Type it real quick, real quick. I know, I know we got to wrap this up. Type in Matt Liner's bench press. Tom, I got to tell you right now, all I want to do.

• 58:09Speaker 01

  Matt Liner.

• 58:12Speaker 00

  All I want to do is go to those colleges when they PR.

• 58:15Speaker 01

  That's it.

• 58:15Speaker 00

  And just be a part of that energy.

• 58:19Speaker 01

  Okay. Is this it?

• 58:22Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 58:23Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 58:24Speaker 00

  Okay, Matt Liner, he's doing bench press.

• 58:28Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 58:29Speaker 00

  And he's like, I go that, and they're like, dude, that's not how you do a bench. He's just going like halfway down and then, and then this guy's instructing him how to do it.

• 58:38Speaker 01

  Oh, I see. Okay. Yeah. All right, Dean.

• 58:42Speaker 00

  Look at, look at Matt Liner. That's how far he goes down.

• 58:44Speaker 01

  He wasn't going down. I got it.

• 58:46Speaker 00

  But yeah, dude, that energy at colleges, that's what I'm hoping MacDill has for us. If they're like, yo, you want to come in and fucking PR your squat, PR a deadlift? I would, I just like that energy of that, all the guys in the gym, everyone's wearing the same shit. The music's blaring, smelling salts, chalk and a bunch of fucking meathead energy. Do you know what I tell you?

• 59:08Speaker 01

  Hold on.

• 59:08Speaker 00

  Jason Kelce, when I did the bench press of 325, Jason Kelce was said to me, he goes, what time? I said, nine o'clock. He goes, I'm there. I said, what? And he goes, I love that shit.

• 59:18Speaker 01

  Of course.

• 59:19Speaker 00

  And I didn't understand what he was talking about until I did it and I, but it was fun for me.

• 59:24Speaker 01

  Of course.

• 59:25Speaker 00

  Now I'm watching these videos going, dude.

• 59:27Speaker 01

  Look up on Instagram, Andre Boyd 1981, B O Y D, Andre Boyd 1981. This is a coach. This is a grown man. Those are 170s.

• 59:40Speaker 00

  Those are 170s?

• 59:41Speaker 01

  170s.

• 59:43Speaker 00

  By the way, he didn't warm up because he's wearing a collared shirt.

• 59:45Speaker 01

  No, he's in his, he's in his work clothes.

• 59:47Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 59:49Speaker 01

  He's a big man.

• 59:50Speaker 00

  All right.

• 59:51Speaker 01

  Still.

• 59:52Speaker 04

  I can't think of anything, catchphrase to say.

• 59:54Speaker 01

  It's inclined by the way, not flat, incline. Okay?

• 1:00:01Speaker 00

  Oh my God. Oh, I want that to be my alarm clock to wake up.

• 1:00:07Speaker 01

  Bro.

• 1:00:15Speaker 00

  Holy shit, Tom.

• 1:00:16Speaker 01

  Yeah, he's just wrapping them out, dude. That dude will throw you through a fucking wall, man.

• 1:00:22Speaker 00

  By the way, I gotta tell you, I don't know if I could lift 170s up. Like with one hand, but I don't know if I could, I could lift 170 off the rack.

• 1:00:31Speaker 01

  That was, that was impressive.

• 1:00:32Speaker 00

  It's like Method Man. Method Man's fucking jacked.

• 1:00:35Speaker 01

  He's jacked. He's super.

• 1:00:36Speaker 00

  He's doing fucking hundreds on incline.

• 1:00:38Speaker 01

  He's, he's super jacked. Yeah. It's inspiring. It's inspiring. Um, all right. We're gonna run. See you at MacDill and we'll see you back here soon.

• 1:00:47Speaker 00

  Awesome.

• 1:00:49Speaker 01

  That was great, man.

• 1:00:50Speaker 00

  Great episode.

• 1:00:51Speaker 01

  Fun episode. Hopefully Mountain Dew is happy.

• 1:00:54Speaker 00

  Oh, I think we have to shoot that just non.

• 1:00:57Speaker 01

  It's so funny. That ended up being so funny. Um, I like the Sabas, dude. I like them. I think they look.

• 1:01:02Speaker 00

  I like them too.

• 1:01:03Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:01:04Speaker 00

  Leanne just went, we're getting our puppy this weekend.

• 1:01:06Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:01:07Speaker 00

  So Leanne went with the girls to get a, a RV and I'm wearing the Sabas all weekend.

• 1:01:12Speaker 01

  Fuck yeah, dude.

• 1:01:14Speaker 00

  Yeah. All right. I'll talk to you later.

• 1:01:15Speaker 01

  Okay, buddy.

• 1:01:16Speaker 00

  All right, love you.

• 1:01:17Speaker 01

  Love you too. Bye.