Bam Margera Turns a Page

Throwback Thursday (Originally aired: 4/3/24) This week, legendary skateboarder and Jackass star Bam Margera gets candid about battling addiction and embracing sobriety. He opens up about the "Florida Shuffle" he endured in rehab, as well as the legal battles we've both seen and not seen reported in the news. Bam also reflects on life after skyrocketing to fame with Jackass in the early 2000s. Joining Bam for the raw conversation is his model fiancée Dannii Marie, to share her own perspective on their chance meeting in LA and travels across the country together that have brought them to this new chapter. Bam Margera: IG https://www.instagram.com/bam__margera/?hl=en Watch Full Episodes & More: YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@Dumbblondepod

Speaker names marked ? are inferred from speaking time and the show’s known hosts — they are not voice-verified.

• 0:00Bunnie XO?

  Is this thing on?

• 0:01Speaker 01

  Bonnie, who used to be a former sex worker and now hosts the podcast Dumb Blonde.

• 0:05Bunnie XO?

  Most little girls grow up wanting to be doctors and lawyers and shit. And I was like, I want to be super hot, make a lot of fucking money and be a rock star's wife. That was my goal as a child and here we are.

• 0:16Bunnie XO?

  What's up you sexy motherfuckers? Welcome to another episode of Dumb Blonde. Today we have the one, the only Bam Margera and his girlfriend Danny Marie. What's up guys?

• 0:26Speaker 02

  What up?

• 0:26Speaker 03

  I know, so excited to be here. I think she says the F-bomb more than me.

• 0:30Bunnie XO?

  I do. I am constantly cussing. People get so mad at me. They're like, why do you say fuck? I said, because intelligent people cuss. It's what we do.

• 0:37Speaker 03

  Yeah, I love it. It's like my favorite word. And when I heard your first podcast, I'm like, oh, this is going to be fun. I don't have to think before I say that word.

• 0:45Bunnie XO?

  I love that. What have you guys been up to Bam? What have you guys been doing?

• 0:49Speaker 02

  We've actually been on the road. We met eight months ago and about six of the months, we've been all over the place. Texas, New Mexico, Florida, South Carolina, Indiana, made our way down here. And we've just been enjoying the road trip. We have two dogs and, uh, and soon we'll be making our way to California. But we have been booking a lot of Comic Cons and Horror Cons just because, um, you know, we've been doing so well at them. And I've been in treatment for the longest Florida shuffle. You could call the Guinness Book because it was like two and a half years at $660,000.

• 1:25Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, we're going to get into that later because I did, I did research a little bit of that. And I'm telling you right now, I preach it on my podcast nonstop. The mental health system in America is fucking broken. Waxed. Like especially in Florida. Yeah, it's so bad. I want to let everybody know at home that since you've walked in here, you've literally had like a smile on your face and that makes me happy because you know.

• 1:46Speaker 02

  Why wouldn't I? Look at this eye can.

• 1:47Bunnie XO?

  Dude, she's hot. I was, when you were, I was hitting on her when you walked out. I was like, hey baby, you are fine girl. Fine girls in here. Oh, you manifested her though. I heard on an interview that you manifested her. Tell me about that.

• 2:00Speaker 02

  Well. I was pretty much, I checked into the Sunset Marquis in, in Los Angeles, right on Hollywood Boulevard. I was just over everything. I have five lawsuits, a custody battle that is never ending. I'm just spending all my money on that. I just got three of my credit cards stolen and they all racked up 20 grand on each one. The last one was a stripper from, from Spearmint Rhino who racked up 20 grand at a nightclub at one night. How do you do that? That means every valet, don't know those guys, but I'll pay for them. Uh, don't know that crew, but I'll pay for their bottle service. Hell, 20 grand in one night at one nightclub? Come on.

• 2:36Speaker 03

  Well, I worked at a strip club, so that's very easy as a bartender. You can get all your girlfriend's drinks and there, there's the 20K.

• 2:43Speaker 02

  So, so when I checked in, I, I got a whole bunch of drugs and I was like, I, I really just don't even care to wake up. And if I do, F you, God. So the next morning I'm like, man, I'm awake. Fuck. I'm like, alright. I'm gonna go to the pool bar. You better, God, you better deliver me the hottest eye candy. I want a tan pit bull and A cup tits. Because, because my prior girlfriends, I, they always talk me into buying these fake boobs and they were always rocks. And they always say that they'll settle down within a year and then three years goes by, I'm like, they're still rocks. Don't want to, I want to chop them off.

• 3:18Speaker 03

  They didn't massage them properly.

• 3:20Speaker 02

  So, um, when I went to the pool bar, I ordered a drink, of course, and I overhear somebody talking, uh, listen, I'm 43 years old. I was born in Jersey. I'm Sicilian and Irish. I'm like, and I look over, I'm like, wow, who's Sicilian Irish? I'm Sicilian Irish. I was born in Philly over the bridge. Who are you? She's like, I'm a stretch coach. I'm like, and she's like, I have to go home and walk my dogs. I'm like, what kind of dog? A tan pit bull. I'm like, thank you, God. I've been saved and I was on a mission. Um, and, and you know, the doctor told me in 2013 that my legs were like dry rotted rubber bands from alcohol abuse. And he was pretty much like, good luck trying to skateboard again, which is what my passion was. I've been pro since I was 17.

• 3:59Speaker 02

  And, um, because of that, it just made me drink more. So when I met her, she's like, don't listen to him at all. I stretch you an hour a day and you're gonna get your legs back. And sure enough, they're like a hundred percent again, every day. First thing, first thing we do is stretch, walk the dogs. And then I'm out looking for a skate spot.

• 4:14Speaker 03

  Yeah, that's what I heard. What was your first impression of, of this hot mess over here? We were actually looking at photos today. I don't even, I mean, I don't, I mean, it's so hard to even say how it connected, but it was, I was invited by somebody who I didn't really know, but it was the Hollywood scene, you know, and later found out it wasn't the best crowd, but I showed up by myself. My friend Heather, call her out. She couldn't make it that day, but that's okay. I went alone and, um, you know, I didn't know anybody. And she sent me this text that was like celebrities are here. I hate that, of course. My mom's like, well, I'm literally fighting myself because I lived in Koreatown, couldn't find parking. It was a disaster. So to leave your house in Koreatown is a big deal. You have to take an Uber. It's just a nightmare.

• 4:59Bunnie XO?

  Fucking LA is a nightmare, dude.

• 5:01Speaker 03

  So I'm like, is it really worth going? Like she's already dropped a celebrity name. Like, who knows if whatever. So my mom's like, well, you didn't go to LA to stay in bed, blah, blah, blah. So she put a little firecracker in my ass. So I got dressed, put on my little LA hat, and then I went to the pool party. And of course, how some girls can be, they weren't, you know, being very friendly. Once this one and I started talking, I do remember him kind of coming over, but I was alone, blindfolded and just wasn't really wanting to date at the time. I just got out of something really shitty.

• 5:30Bunnie XO?

  Did you know who he was?

• 5:31Speaker 03

  I remember like, they were like Bam Margera's here. I'm like Bam, I'm like, you know, they're like, oh, jackass. Like, okay. But we're, are the same age. So it wasn't like I was really watching it every day. Like, I hate to bring up ridiculousness, but how it's like constantly on the TV, you know, like you can't get away from it. So I knew, but I didn't really know, you know, the whole story.

• 5:52Bunnie XO?

  Hype of Bam.

• 5:53Speaker 03

  Right. So when we, when we interacted, um, you know, the girls, as they know who they are, had kind of like pushed me towards him because they weren't being bullyish, but they weren't being friendly because the one girl had taken a shower with him the day before.

• 6:05Bunnie XO?

  Oh.

• 6:06Speaker 03

  So.

• 6:07Bunnie XO?

  Did you even remember that Bam?

• 6:08Speaker 02

  Yeah, I did.

• 6:09Bunnie XO?

  Okay. Because he was fucked up. So you gotta ask, because I did a lot of shit when I was fucked up that I don't remember.

• 6:16Speaker 03

  Right. So basically, they just.

• 6:18Bunnie XO?

  His face is turning three shades of red right now. I don't think I've ever seen you blush.

• 6:22Speaker 03

  He admitted it. I mean, at least he told me. And I'm like, okay, well, are y'all like dating? Because I'm single. It's LA, like, whatever. And I just, we just had fun. Like, we ended up going, I can't even tell you where. Um, it was just some little place in LA. It was like a strip club of some sort that was completely packed.

• 6:38Bunnie XO?

  Were you using then? Or were you sober?

• 6:40Speaker 03

  No, I haven't. Okay, so we'll get into all that. But I was a drinker. I mean, I've had my share of things. I've been a model since I was 14, so I've definitely partied. Lived in Vegas, lived in LA. Um, but for me, I won Miss Bikini. I went through, okay, so 2019, I had an ankle surgery, which was mortifying. I lost my 14 year old dog. And then a 10 year, almost 10 year relationship ended all within like a year. So I went through a really bad time. I was drinking a little too much, started drinking more. And then, you know, I started getting sick, like literally sick and in the hospital. I was getting alcohol poisoning is what was happening. And I just didn't want to tell anybody that I knew when I was throwing up what was happening.

• 7:17Bunnie XO?

  Because you're like binge drinking.

• 7:18Speaker 03

  Yeah, it was just like, you know, rosé starts at 10 a.m. And then before you know it, it's eight o'clock at night. And you know, it's just.

• 7:23Bunnie XO?

  Sounds like a good time.

• 7:25Speaker 03

  Yeah, bad. Just, I was going down a bad, bad path. I was getting, after the breakup, I hung out with the wrong guy. He was younger than me and I started doing bad things again. And then just really nipped it in the butt and just had to break up with a lot of people. So I ended up entering a bikini contest and didn't realize how intense it was, but I was already in it. I couldn't pull out. I wanted to because it was like, I'd rather just have another cocktail and go, whatever. So, um, I ended up placing fifth. And I stayed serious that whole, like, four months of training for the bikini. So once I started to get away from the alcohol, I just quit completely. So I really haven't been drinking since 2021. But when I went out to LA, it was like a couple of drinks here and there. But then I'd,

• 8:07Speaker 03

  you know, you're not drinking, a couple of drinks will get you buzzed. So that was the day, like, I was in a F it mood, fuck it mood, whatever. So I was drinking at the pool that day.

• 8:14Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 8:15Speaker 03

  And we had a great time. The connection was obviously there because as a person. Person, you know, and alcohol helped me kiss him a little bit, you know, little make out bandit. We were FaceTiming Jessica.

• 8:26Speaker 02

  She's still committed to the gym at five AM the next day and dropped a forty pound weight on her till it broke down.

• 8:31Speaker 03

  I broke my foot, basically.

• 8:32Bunnie XO?

  Oh, my god.

• 8:33Speaker 03

  I like shattered the toe and then I wake up the next day and I'm like, damn, I think I made out with Bam. Like, I woke up, like, the dogs are like, where were you for seven hours?

• 8:43Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, like I was getting railed.

• 8:44Speaker 03

  Yeah, feeling rough. And then I just, I remember like wanting him to call. Like, I really wanted him to call. And I was like, oh, it's already four o'clock. He hasn't called yet. That's weird. So something inside told me to take a shower, which I did. And I'm laying in Koreatown. And of course, the phone rings and he's like, eh.

• 8:58Speaker 02

  Not from my phone because the stripper stole it as well as my credit card. So I called randomly from a number that had South Carolina area code, which is where she's from.

• 9:07Speaker 03

  Yeah, I grew up in Charleston, so it was eight four three. I'm like, where are you?

• 9:11Bunnie XO?

  Poor Bam. Bam got his, his card stolen, his phone stolen.

• 9:15Speaker 03

  He was a hot mess that weekend.

• 9:16Speaker 02

  I don't even know if you know this, but then I, I saw this, um, psychic lady who basically told me to be a yes man, say yes to everything. So I'm going to see my shaman.

• 9:28Bunnie XO?

  Oh, that's not, don't tell Bam that.

• 9:29Speaker 02

  I pull in with, I pull in with the Bentley to this gas station in Vista, California, because my phone died and I didn't know how to get to his house. So I had to charge it in, in the gas station. So as soon as I pull up, these M thirteen gangsters with their tattoos, face and everything, they go, yo, you banned from Jackass? I'm like, yeah. They're like, can we get a photo? I'm like, yes. And they're like, can we sit in your car and get a photo? I'm like, yes. They're like, yo, man, this thing must be fast. Can we go around the block and, and whatever? I'm like, yes. So then we go around the block and we're cracking jokes and then I park. I park at the gas station, knowing that my phone's still charging. And I'm like, hang on, guys. I leave the car running. I'm like, I gotta go get my phone. They're like, all right, cool. So I go in and I'm like, hey, ma'am, can I get my phone? They're like, she's like, I gave it to your friend. I'm like, what friend?

• 10:10Speaker 02

  I'm from Pennsylvania. I don't have any friends here. She's like, well, I gave it to somebody, but you gave my phone away? I was forced to call nine one one. So three cop cars pull up and I guess they were all larried up on whatever, but they thought it was for them. So they took my car. As the police show up, not knowing that it's for me and my phone, it had nothing to do with them. This guy just got out of jail for five years for guns and drugs and apparently he had guns and drugs on him. So he took my car, I walk out, there's three helicopters in the sky and I hear from Officer Bentley, I'll never forget. Bentley's been crashed in the house. I'm like, awesome. And I didn't want to press charges because I don't need these guys after me. I tagged that I'm at the Vista Skate Park. Next thing you know, I'm getting drive by shootings. So ate the cash on that as well.

• 10:54Speaker 03

  Oh, I had no idea about that, so.

• 10:56Bunnie XO?

  Why does, why does, why do you think this shit happens to you all the time, Bam?

• 11:01Speaker 02

  Because I listened to a lady say yes to everything that day.

• 11:05Bunnie XO?

  There has to be some level of discernment in your gut though. You gotta be like, no, maybe I shouldn't be riding around with these guys.

• 11:12Speaker 03

  I don't understand that one.

• 11:13Speaker 02

  It was just like she just said it. So the first thing that just say yes to everything. Yo Bam, can we get a phone? Yes.

• 11:19Bunnie XO?

  What was her point in this? I would love to talk to her and just be like, what was your point? Why, do you think telling Bam or Jer to say yes?

• 11:26Speaker 02

  She's one of the ones who spent 20 grand on my card.

• 11:29Bunnie XO?

  Oh my gosh. Was she a stripper psychic?

• 11:33Speaker 02

  She was a psychic and then the stripper was next and then a buddy.

• 11:35Bunnie XO?

  Was the psychic in the strip club?

• 11:37Speaker 02

  He had a tiny bill. No, it was not.

• 11:39Bunnie XO?

  Okay, so they're totally unrelated.

• 11:42Speaker 02

  My buddy was recording at Sun Studios in Memphis at Elvis's place and he had a small bill to pay like three grand. So I gave him my credit card information because the label was going to pay it back. He gets so drunk that night that he spends 20 grand on sunglasses and jackets on my card and doesn't remember doing it.

• 11:58Bunnie XO?

  It sounds like you're surrounded by a lot of people who take it easy.

• 12:01Speaker 02

  And he's so broke, I think he has a payment plan of like $50 a month, which will take eternity to pay off.

• 12:08Speaker 03

  Well, that's why you're attracted to Bam because Bam is funny all of the time. So it's never a dull moment with, with him. And it was like that, you know, people always, you know, he's, when he's not drinking anymore, but he's just elevated and it's just funnier. Not that we want him drinking, but he's not like a bad drunk. I mean, he's fun. He just gets funnier. So that's where the attraction definitely happened. I mean, who doesn't love a guy or a girl or whomever you're with?

• 12:33Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, that makes you smile. Oh, I love funny. That's why I married my husband.

• 12:36Speaker 03

  Yeah, so like he just, I just, we died rolling all night long. And I just remember like really wanted him to call the next day. And then once he called and said, do you want to go for pizza at the Rainbow Room? I'm like, the Rainbow Room has pizza? He's like, it's the best pizza.

• 12:48Bunnie XO?

  That's Jay's favorite fucking place. So forever in LA, I'll call you guys. Because Jay, last time for the Grammys, he went and rented out the Rainbow Room. And got shitfaced and then swam in the pool, or swam in the fucking fountain at the fucking Beverly Hills, whatever the fuck we were at.

• 13:03Speaker 02

  So, so on our first date, I was, I really wanted to know, but I was just doing small talk, you know? I'm like, I just gotta know, how are your teeth so perfectly white? She's like, because I brushed my teeth with your dick. I'm like, fuck it, bro, I love you.

• 13:16Speaker 03

  That was after he had tortured me in a funny way for two days.

• 13:20Speaker 02

  I know how to handle somebody like you and your fucking.

• 13:21Speaker 03

  Yeah, I was like, I can keep up with you. So it was cute. It was just like the Rainbow Room pizza. And then honestly, Bunny, like it just, I never left.

• 13:29Bunnie XO?

  That's how it happens. That's how Jay and I were. Once you meet that soul partner, that soul connection, it's just like, it's like fireworks. And you, you guys are just together.

• 13:37Speaker 02

  Well, I was in my turmoil of being over it. I was ready to just check out. I didn't care unless, unless I, I knew she was the runaway away. And I asked what happened to her. She's like, I had to flee the scene in Miami. I was dating a professional baseball player who was very abusive. And I just packed up the dogs and I just hit the road and LA was my destination. And, um, you know, he saw a photo of like us and Us Weekly holding hands in a little tablet thing with a purple dress on. He's like, I'm coming out there. I'm going to find you and like hunt you down. And this, I, I believe that he died of a fentanyl overdose in Texas on the way here.

• 14:10Bunnie XO?

  Oh, my gosh.

• 14:10Speaker 02

  Yeah. So she just knew that if she stayed in that relationship, it was not going to end well.

• 14:14Speaker 03

  Yeah, he wasn't a good guy.

• 14:15Bunnie XO?

  How long were you guys together for?

• 14:17Speaker 03

  It was, it was, you know what? If we ever write a book, it'll just be the booty call gone bad.

• 14:20Bunnie XO?

  Oh, fuck, that's the worst.

• 14:22Speaker 03

  The first guy I slept with in nine years. So it was just like.

• 14:26Bunnie XO?

  Wait, you didn't have dick for nine years?

• 14:28Speaker 03

  I was with somebody for nine years.

• 14:28Bunnie XO?

  Oh, okay. Gotcha. Gotcha. Okay. I was like, wait a second. How did that work?

• 14:32Speaker 03

  But he was like the first after the la, after the ex. So it was just, you know, he was a professional baseball player. And he just was, you know, rest his soul, because we don't want to send bad energy in the, in the air. But he was like dating multiple women who one of them I'm not friends with.

• 14:45Speaker 02

  At the funeral, all the girls were like, who are you and why are you here? Well, I'm, for how long? Nine months? What about you? Nine years? What about you? Two years? What about you? Like there's nine girls.

• 14:54Bunnie XO?

  That's how athletes are though. Athletes, musicians, like that's how, that's the whole. You know, that's the whole game that they play.

• 15:01Speaker 02

  I'm surprised it didn't wind up being one big brawl with a bunch of chicks.

• 15:04Speaker 03

  But yeah, he doesn't understand, like, sometimes the world doesn't understand that. I wasn't really happy in LA, though, because if you go back to LA, no offense to LA, I love LA. I lived in LA when I was nineteen to twenty.

• 15:13Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 15:14Speaker 03

  And it's just changed.

• 15:15Bunnie XO?

  It's, I always tell everybody, Los Angeles has lost its sparkle.

• 15:18Speaker 03

  It really has. It really has.

• 15:20Bunnie XO?

  Back in like ten, fifteen years ago, that place was fucking just like

• 15:24Speaker 03

  Money.

• 15:24Bunnie XO?

  glitter everywhere, you know, and now it's like, it has no soul.

• 15:28Speaker 02

  And another thing is like,

• 15:30Bunnie XO?

  No soul.

• 15:30Speaker 02

  You, you could barely get a one bedroom, one bath with no land near the beach of Santa Monica for four million or whatever. Out here, you could have twenty acres. You know what? If you're so obsessed with the beach, just buy a nice pool, put a sandbox next to it. What a fucking day.

• 15:47Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. Are you guys gonna move to Nashville?

• 15:49Speaker 03

  We don't know what we're doing. We're just trying to figure out what the best place is.

• 15:53Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 15:53Speaker 03

  Because he needs to be close to Phoenix. Me, I just need great girlfriends, some water and some sun.

• 15:58Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, well, there's not a lot of water and a lot, a lot of sun here, except for in the summertime. I'm a Vegas girl, I'm a west coast girl too. It took a long time for me to get adjusted here, but once I did, Nashville is like LA, but with a soul, and it's like your peace. Like, it's like, everybody here is just so sweet and welcoming and loving.

• 16:16Speaker 03

  Southern hospitality.

• 16:17Bunnie XO?

  It's so healing.

• 16:17Speaker 02

  That's what I love about little towns like this and in Westchester, Pennsylvania. If you're a bartender, you're just simply happy being a bartender.

• 16:24Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 16:24Speaker 02

  If you're one in Los Angeles, you are just simply trying to make ends meet until your big break of becoming a model or an actor or whatever it is. And everybody's so fake that I, I just did a test with a friend, because we were at a party. I'm like, just watch this. Yo, Ben, what are you up to? Oh, I'm actually gotta do, um, Jimmy Kimmel, uh, because Jackass two's coming out, which was true. And they're like, dude, we gotta work together. Next person that comes up, yo, Ben, what are you up to? I actually just flew myself out here with my own money and I'm kinda looking for work. You got anything going on? Uh, good talking to you, pal. Like, if, if you're up to something, they all wanna be a part of it. And if you're not, then it's just. It's really fake town is what it is.

• 17:00Bunnie XO?

  No, it is, it is. It's definitely gone down the drain in the past few years. So let's circle back to, um, how are Phil and, uh, April doing? How's your relationship with them?

• 17:12Speaker 02

  Um, well, I just realized that right now it's just a good time to just back off and, and, and time because they were a part of the whole treatment thing. Like, I got a guardian just like Britney Spears and her only answer to everything was lock me up and throw away the key, put him in treatment, put him in treatment. And I knew that that was not the way.

• 17:35Bunnie XO?

  That's the Lima girl.

• 17:36Speaker 02

  Yeah. And, and like,

• 17:38Bunnie XO?

  Lima.

• 17:38Speaker 02

  Yeah. And her last client, Amanda Rabb, she, she faked the autopsy report. They did research and found out that she, she died in the care of her own hands of having a seizure. And I've never had a seizure in my life until I met her. I went into five of them in a row. And the last one, I couldn't breathe on my own. I woke up eight days later on a fucking life support tube with COVID pneumonia.

• 17:59Bunnie XO?

  That's wild.

• 17:59Speaker 02

  So like, I, I, all I knew is I, I had to, once you get marksman acted or Baker acted, it usually happens in Florida. That means that you have to do 90 days in treatment. And if the interventionalist knows that you have good insurance, they will find reasons to keep you there for eternity. So I'm like 88 days in and I'm like, I get two, in two more days, I get out hip, hip, hooray. Then he walks in, he's like, you've been rocking those same shorts for like three days. And I'm like, yeah, I'm not trying to get any pussy around here. I don't care. They're like, it's bad hygiene. You're doing another 90 days at another place. Then I'll do 88 days at another place. Flick the cigarette out into a bush. They filmed it smoking like any cigarette would smoke. It was not on fire. They're like, you could lit the whole national forest on fire. You're doing another 90 days at another place. They just kept doing it and doing it, doing it.

• 18:43Bunnie XO?

  It's called body snatching, basically.

• 18:45Speaker 02

  Straight up body snatching.

• 18:46Bunnie XO?

  It's the insurance. They just toss you through. Yeah. You know?

• 18:50Speaker 02

  And I realized that there's nothing that you could do to get out there. They will find, yeah.

• 18:53Bunnie XO?

  Oh yeah. Once you're in the system.

• 18:55Speaker 02

  So I did everything right in my better now. You know, we're going to keep you here for another 90 days. For what? I've done everything you've asked. I've been here for two and a half years. Get me the fuck out. And when I did got out, I appreciated life a lot more. I'm like, I'm going to call. It's a convertible. There's the beach. I'm in a fucking Starbucks outside talking to you.

• 19:13Speaker 03

  Or just the music. They can't even hear music.

• 19:15Speaker 02

  Music. I had no interweb, no fucking music, no TV. A little bit of TV, but it was just terrible.

• 19:22Bunnie XO?

  Well, let's let's rewind. So you feel like you feel like April and Phil had something to do with the is it was it a conservatorship that you had?

• 19:31Speaker 02

  Yeah, I guess guardian alight them, but but.

• 19:34Bunnie XO?

  It isn't a guardian alight. It's like a guardian. So basically, if you want to.

• 19:37Speaker 02

  She got hired from from Nikki's brother. They all teamed up on me and and said that he needs to go away for a long, long time. They talked my parents into it by like saying, uh, yeah, five hundred thousand dollars is a lot of money. But if you don't write this check, you're gonna be real sorry when he's six feet in the ground, you know, making her my mom feel really bad about it. So she just got talked into this and then Lima has such a nice voice that she could pretty much con anybody into anything.

• 20:06Bunnie XO?

  Is she an interventionalist? What do they call those people?

• 20:08Speaker 03

  Tried to like create rehabs and stuff. If you look up her, I try not to talk about her too much because she's listening to everything and I don't care if she hears me today. It's about time she does.

• 20:16Bunnie XO?

  But it's if you're speaking truth.

• 20:18Speaker 02

  If I would have kept doing what she was making me do and she was making me say things like, I was in the longest Florida shuffle. It's a fact. It's called a shuffle. She's like, man, there's no such thing as a Florida circle. You have to do a statement saying that you didn't know what you were talking about. And I really went on. She like forced me to do it like, hey, guys, I know I was talking about the Florida shuffle, but I don't know anything about it or what I was talking about. And I was not in the Florida shuffle whatsoever.

• 20:41Bunnie XO?

  Lies. How did she get?

• 20:43Speaker 02

  Like, I was definitely in the fucking Florida shuffle. I was in thirteen different treatment centers at ninety days a piece. And one of them was two hundred and twenty. It's called a shuffle. They kept me in there for why? For no reason. I already know the alcohol is good and it's not any bad. What do I have to do at the next class? Learned alcohol is bad. It's not any good. I'm very aware of that. What are you gonna do when you get out? I'm gonna sit on a white claw because fuck all y'all.

• 21:05Speaker 03

  So Nikki's Nikki and her brother hired this girl.

• 21:09Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 21:10Speaker 03

  Okay, this woman and she came in and pretty much just like took over your life and

• 21:15Speaker 02

  Completely.

• 21:15Speaker 03

  Fifty one fifty to you?

• 21:16Speaker 02

  The answer to everything is yeah, fifty one fifty me and uh you know is what hurts the most is that this uh chick, very good friend of mine BJ investigates, uh it's also called the surprise witness. She does a podcast.

• 21:29Speaker 03

  That surprise witness.

• 21:30Speaker 02

  She she decided to buy every nine one one call of me or did I have done?

• 21:34Speaker 03

  And body cam.

• 21:35Speaker 02

  Body cam footage, every document, every house I bought and sold, every car. She just wanted everything. And why? Because she just wanted to find out the truth. She knows that something shady was going on. And she, when we looked at the body cam footage, uh my Aunt Missy, my mom, they were all in on it. I'm like hiding in a hotel and then all of a sudden the police show up. I'm like, are you in all? My mom's like, bam, I have no idea. I have no idea about it. Then as soon as I get handcuffed and taken away, she's talking to the cops like like they fucking arranged this.

• 22:05Speaker 03

  Well, the Aunt Missy or whoever she is was like, tell them I'm not here. Tell when you watch it, you'll cry. I can't watch it because it shows betrayal from family and I can't watch it. I was crying through like the third one and BJ is a very good friend of ours. They don't like her because she's speaking the truth.

• 22:20Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 22:21Speaker 03

  And she's uncovered things that he was too fucked up to realize.

• 22:25Speaker 02

  And and you can't deny physical body cam proof, which is what she has and documented proof. So she doesn't BJ doesn't know what she's talking about. Yes, she does because it's documented in the court of law.

• 22:38Speaker 03

  She's a lawyer.

• 22:39Speaker 02

  She's a lawyer. Yeah.

• 22:40Bunnie XO?

  So, okay, circling back, I'm sorry I had to cut you off in such a crucial moment, but that betrayal has got to be fucking traumatic.

• 22:48Speaker 02

  Yeah. And if if if my mom is able to say that for a whole year, she's like, bam, I swear I I had no idea about it. And then a year later BJ got the body cam footage. I'm like, what do you have to say about this? Well, Pam, we didn't know what to do. It's like, but but you lied to me for a whole year. Like, I think you even swore on your whatever's like, you know what I mean? Like?

• 23:08Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. What were you using a lot then?

• 23:11Speaker 02

  No, because I was in treatment for two years, but as soon as I would get The first thing I wanted to do was that because I had no reason to stop. My kid has been taken away from me and they have no plans on arranging me a visit. I'm paying rent um for my girlfriend's place and I said, if you move to Burbank near your brainwashing brother, I'm leaving you for good. So I'm like, I'll move to anywhere with you in Phoenix on the planet, except there. So I sent the money. I'm like, congratulations. You, I heard you got a place. Where is it? She's like Burbank. I'm like, all right, I'm leaving you. And she thought that I was fibbing, but like I, the only reason that made me stop right here, she gave me the perfect ultimatum, her Poussoir or the vodka. I really like vodka, but I'm not going to go with that. I'm going to go with the first option.

• 23:56Speaker 02

  And um, her stretching an hour a day is so effective. Anytime I was sore back in the day, I'm like, man, I'm sore. I need a massage. I should have got a stretch coach.

• 24:04Speaker 03

  Ah, I just want to go back to like the, just because the family and everything. Cause we could talk all day. We all probably have ADHD in this room, but I, the thing that I noticed when we got together is, and I'm going to say it because this is the honesty day today, is I've never had a chance to talk to the world. So what I experienced in the beginning would be devastating to me because whatever issue you have, your family is supposed to be the ones that you can count on and your friends. So when you see a situation like Brittany and now, and Bam, it's, it's the money. I worked for um, a, a piece of shit who was in the Florida shuttle shuffle. His name's Joe McBretney. I dare him to come for me. He owes me $900. But like, he was in the Florida shuffle and he was sleeping with these girls. Like I'm,

• 24:48Speaker 03

  I'm a very, he was, he was an owner of a rehabilitation center. So the, the definition of the Florida shuffle where Bam was, which his parents seemed to be in denial at times, is that they will just take you and then say, you and I have one. It's like, hey, Bam's about to get out, so let's get him fucked up. So they'll let, they would let the girls.

• 25:06Speaker 02

  Yeah, because if they let you out and you have a couple of days left, they're hoping that you relapse so they could keep you for another 90 days for insurance purposes.

• 25:12Speaker 03

  So they would let the girls go out and then say, I'd say, hey, you know, Haley's over on 10th street in Delray, go get her. And then you would keep her for 30 days and we would split the $100,000 and that's how it goes. And that's what he was in. So when you have someone. Like our men here that have money, it's just a constant shuffle. So when I saw some of the body cam, I was like pretty disturbed that people that were calling my phone, brand new, trying to get a hold of him that I'm realizing don't want to call me either, right? They just wanted to get to him. There's just a lot of facts out there that show that they just wanted to keep him there. And if he wouldn't have met me, he'd either be dead or he would have just been in the Florida.

• 25:49Speaker 02

  For sure. And these places are so shady that I had a roommate named Big Ben and an ambulance took him out at three in the morning when everybody was asleep and they pronounced him dead. And they, I woke up and I overhear everybody saying like, hey, where's Big Ben? He left. And, and all the staff members were like, oh, he moved along to a different facility. I'm like, different facility? Yeah, the fucking morgue. He's dead or than shit. They pronounced him dead when I was sitting next to him.

• 26:14Bunnie XO?

  That's gotta be traumatic.

• 26:15Speaker 02

  But this whole place is trained, they were, they, they taught everybody to say that he moved along to a different facility. Yeah, the morgue, he's dead.

• 26:23Bunnie XO?

  That's gotta be traumatic also having your roommate die right next to you.

• 26:27Speaker 02

  Put me in, I had to go in on, on, under jackass rules with Paramount that I go to treatment and pay for it. So I'm going in on Adderall and alcohol, which I had a prescription for. And, uh, I go in, I'm on more drugs than I've ever had. I was a fucking zombie to the point where I couldn't even cry or come. They put me on fucking biproprion, propanolol, lithium, lituda, trazodone, seriquil, um, every well butrin and abilify known to man, but, but you could say like, hey Bam, your cat, oh, my cat died neat. You know, hey, uh, Angelina's over there naked and she wants to have at it. Oh, she does? Cool. Like I was just numb. I had no feelings whatsoever. I was better out at the fucking Irish Bubs cracking jokes on Adderall and alcohol rather than all that shit.

• 27:12Bunnie XO?

  Do you feel like they keep people over medicated in these places so that they can control them?

• 27:16Speaker 02

  That, of course, that and, and they, and the doctor probably gets a big kickback on writing all these prescriptions. If, if they leave, if you leave on nothing, then they lose a client.

• 27:26Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 27:27Speaker 02

  Oh, he's good to go. Well, it looks like we don't need him anymore. No, they want you forever to be on their shit.

• 27:32Bunnie XO?

  They farm with poison.

• 27:33Speaker 02

  Nothing. They said, they diagnosed me with manic bipolar and then they said, are you depressed? I go, I don't know. If I am depressed, it's because I'm now too, I'm, I'm top heavy and I can't skateboard how I used to. So they give me all these new prescriptions and I'm eating salads in there and I'm like gaining weight. I'm like, that's it. So I type in Depakote, number one weight gaining pill, Zyprexa, number one weight gaining pill. I'm like, doc, why would you give me a weight gaining pill? If, if I told you I'm depressed because I'm heavier than I'm supposed to be. He's like, well, it's an antidepressant. Well, if I keep getting fatter, I'm going to be fucking more depressed, you he-eyed.

• 28:07Bunnie XO?

  They, um, they literally just give you a pill for everything. That's why I won't take any medication. I, I barely even want to take a leave like around my period. Because it just fucking, medications are just, they're like a Band-Aid and they don't fucking help. You don't, they don't heal you.

• 28:22Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 28:22Bunnie XO?

  If anything, you get strung out on them or you are dependent on them for the rest of your life.

• 28:26Speaker 02

  Exactly. And, and I did learn this, the interventionalist Steve Timmer was on the body cam footage and, uh, if you tell the police, don't listen to a word he says he's schizophrenic. If you say he's schizophrenic, you could be like, hey, police, if you look right there and just lean your head over, you will find a dead body. Yeah, yeah, you're not, no, no, no, just take two steps and take a look. Yeah, you're schizophrenic. You don't know what you're talking about. Like, no, just fucking take two steps and fucking look like they just do not believe anything. As soon as you say schizophrenic, don't believe a word.

• 28:57Speaker 03

  It's actually one of the body cams. You can hear one of the cops go, he's about to go in the room. That's when I can't watch it anymore. His friend Paul was on the phone. Now that I'm very good friends with Paul and Paul said it was devastating, but you can hear the one cop go, oh, he's just schizophrenic. Don't worry about it. Like it's something in that manner of like, don't pay attention to anything he says.

• 29:13Bunnie XO?

  Did they diagnose you with schizophrenia?

• 29:16Speaker 03

  He doesn't even know. He's like, it's always something. So, and the answer is no, he's not schizophrenic.

• 29:21Speaker 02

  Just wanted to see me get arrested and go back to a mental institution.

• 29:23Speaker 03

  My stepdad was schizophrenic. He ain't schizophrenic.

• 29:26Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. What are your diagnoses?

• 29:28Speaker 02

  So out of the 13 places I've been to, I think two of them diagnosed me with manic bipolar. The other 11 says that I'm not that. Every time I Go to a new treatment center, which would be every ninety days, they'd be like, they have you on this, that and the other thing and this, this, this. What kind of cocktail is this? We've never seen anything like that. I'm like, they said that they were the best of the best. No, we're the best of the best and you're gonna be on this, that and the other thing now and switch it up. Then I go to another place, they're like, what did that place put you on? This is the craziest cocktail I've ever seen. I'm like, well, they said that they were the best of the best and that place that was the best of the best said that they sucked. I'm like, you're all fucking idiots.

• 30:02Speaker 03

  Minus the only one that wasn't an idiot that we just happen to run into, how angels come back around. Is his, and I'm gonna say her name is Anne Marie. We were just in Doylestown, Pennsylvania, and she hasn't seen this person in so long. And there's a table we usually set up with the Duffs, um, the Duffs, this is, uh, Ed Duff rides for Tony Hawk and Pamela Duff.

• 30:23Speaker 02

  What? My therapist, what are you doing? She was there for a different thing.

• 30:27Bunnie XO?

  She's your original therapist?

• 30:28Speaker 02

  And she was the only one that I, I listened to and loved. Everybody else, you know? And that's another thing. I just spill my guts to a whole new therapist out of, I had thirteen therapists in the past two years. So it's like, here we go again. I gotta spill my whole guts out to every, another person and get nowhere. Cause I'm just gonna leave again and they're gonna give me another.

• 30:48Speaker 03

  Okay, you be quiet for one minute. So she basically, we just ran into her though. And it was, so she was one of the only ones that told me personally that she didn't wanna do what companies were making him do, the Paramount thing and everything, that she didn't want him on all those things. So they didn't want, they didn't like her because she wasn't following the poisonous rules.

• 31:08Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 31:08Speaker 03

  So somehow they lost contact. We're going to meet Pamela for dinner. We walk in this restaurant to go to Pamela's table. And she's sitting there. She's in this beautiful pink suit. I'm like, who's this bombshell? Where's Pamela? And then they're like, almost crying because they haven't seen each other in so long. So I just wanna say like, there was one good one, but she was too good to make it because they want good to go away.

• 31:30Bunnie XO?

  They wanna feed the system.

• 31:32Speaker 02

  So if I stop taking the eighteen medications, then I don't get the five million that I usually get on a Jackass movie because I broke my contract. So I stopped taking it. They're like, looks like you broke your contract. I'm like, well, yeah, what's the point? What's the point of getting five million dollars if I'm dead?

• 31:46Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 31:46Speaker 02

  Cause that's what was. Is gonna happen.

• 31:47Speaker 03

  Absolutely.

• 31:48Speaker 02

  Taking that.

• 31:49Speaker 03

  But if you read about Brittany, they say how they open your mouth, they make you swallow the pills.

• 31:52Speaker 02

  And I just show my tongue.

• 31:54Speaker 03

  So it was like they were making him do that.

• 31:55Bunnie XO?

  Didn't you have to like sit on FaceTimes with them and take your medication every day?

• 31:58Speaker 02

  I would sleep all fucking day, only to get up to piss or go to the refrigerator. And I would just go back to bed. I, I, I was like, basically just dead inside.

• 32:07Speaker 03

  They did it to him. They did it to him again recently when I went to go pick him up. That's like another part of the family like. And now that I can talk about it, you know, everyone is aware that it happened fast, but when we started dating and then we had our one first fight ever. And he was like, I'm going to Nobu to bang bowl. I was like, you are? Don't do that. I think I like you. So then I met my best friend Heather. I was like, do you really think he's gonna go to Nobu and do that? She's like, I don't think so. And then two hours later, he's like, bam, knocking on her door, La Brea in Hollywood. And I'm like, all right, we're dating. It's over. Don't do that again. To me, I was stressed out. But, um, you know, when he had to go to court was when it was a reality check. He asked me, will you fly to Pennsylvania with me and go to court? And it was a really big deal, but I didn't know that he wasn't coming back. So they kept.

• 32:49Speaker 02

  I didn't know either. So.

• 32:51Speaker 03

  So it was.

• 32:51Speaker 02

  Because I had a little tiff with my brother. I, I lent him Castle Bam to turn into a recording studio. He got Prince's soundboard from Paisley Park and, um, and I knew that I would be in treatment. And, and once I got out, I was gonna go to California to hike with the shaman to lose all this weight. So I came home, didn't think that I had to make an announcement that I'm coming home because it's my home. So instead of like, hey, welcome back. It was more like, so when are you leaving? Fuck you's when I'm leaving. So we got in a little tiff about that. I, I read his phone on a three-way conversation with the people that were working in the studio at my house saying, we did not know Bam would be home. Um, he's ruining our program. We need to get him back to California ASAP or 5150 him for no reason, just to not.

• 33:36Speaker 02

  So I ripped off the first thing I saw, which is signed Billy Idol guitar and, and either smashed it with him or on the kitchen, whatever. And then I told his girlfriend who was trying to rescue a cat, she fell off the ladder and shattered her heel. So I said, I'd put a bear trap on her other foot, knowing that I don't own a bear trap and I certainly didn't fly in with one. So I got a terroristic death threat charge. of a bear trap and I put my fucking hand in one and Jackass two and it didn't even break so cool your goddamn jets everyone.

• 34:03Bunnie XO?

  It's gotta be so hurtful that the people that you're are supposed to love you the most seem to be so against you. It's almost like they're just.

• 34:10Speaker 02

  Just it's the little things that piss me off. Villa Vallow from him is my favorite band so I have a big. A picture right as soon as you walk in, there's a piece of cardboard duct taped over his face with like a. You know, just super disrespectful. And then I just bought Phoenix a little. Blue Lamborghini car for special car that I left because when I got arrested on the manhunt. When they called the police on me to fifty one fifty me, I left that car there because I got locked up. He could have just put it right in the house. It got so sun dried that it's gray. It's not even worth giving it to him anymore.

• 34:44Bunnie XO?

  What is your relationship with Nikki now?

• 34:46Speaker 02

  There isn't one.

• 34:47Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 34:48Speaker 02

  The the lawyers, she she lawyered up with a lawyer, which was completely ridiculous because we're not married. We got married. It was a fake wedding in Iceland that you you have to be a resident there to make it legit. We didn't know that. So. Thank God on that. We're we. So she's trying to tell the the lawyer that. Her name is Nicole Margera. That name does not exist on paper. It doesn't exist on the planet of Earth. So I was giving her five grand a month out of the kindness of my own heart for child support. I'm like, I'm being more than fair. And then finally we went to court with her getting a lawyer and the judge was like, you only get five hundred dollars a month. You're not even married. So I'm like, you you should have been happy with the five grand. Now I've given two hundred grand to my lawyer and your lawyer wants me to pay for him too.

• 35:32Speaker 02

  All the money has gone to the lawyers. Congratulations. If we're a matter, we could have figured out in one second. When's a better FaceTime for Phoenix? High noon on Wednesday or is Tuesday better? But they always say, we're still working on it. So if you send me another fifty grand, we'll still be working on it. Yeah, you're gonna work on it for eternity till my banks run dry.

• 35:50Bunnie XO?

  So you aren't in Phoenix's life right now or you are?

• 35:54Speaker 02

  It's still it's still an issue. Apparently I get to see him. Once um every weekend, but I'm fully booked with these Comic Cons every weekend to pay these legal fees.

• 36:06Speaker 03

  It's it's working out though like they have you know right unfortunately just to speak on the subject I you know push him all I come from a divorced family I have daddy issues right now I'm pissed at him right now but um it'll work out and Phoenix is so young that he just wants to see dad dad's dad's famous so dad's busy and he's doing better than ever and he'll be okay you know it's just getting on a schedule so they can see each other and spend time right now it's monitored so that's went a little hard on him but you know you got to prove to the system that you're not a nutball even though he's kind of crazy but I told him just to do his part and they're gonna be just fine

• 36:39Speaker 02

  it almost doesn't even matter if a decade went by like hey do you know uh can Bam see Phoenix now because it's been 10 years and he's been sober as a judge well he'll probably just relapse I know him you know there's nothing I could do to win on this matter and

• 36:54Speaker 03

  unfortunately he's been so up and down that there I don't think that they believe this I think they think I'm a flyby girlfriend and some people think I'm here for the fame I'm famous in my own way I don't need it you know

• 37:05Speaker 02

  and it's really shitty because I'm missing him grow up

• 37:07Speaker 03

  yeah

• 37:08Speaker 02

  if I walk in the mall and I see some teddy bears or a fucking Paw Patrol poster I'm crying my eyes out if I even go past a playground and I see kids play it's like that's all I want to do but I have to have a fucking supervised visit from the Supreme Court with a microphone on just it's like I've been living at the Black Rifle Coffee compound with a little eight year old and a ten year old how come I get to live there and play with them all day but when it comes to my own kid I have to have a Supreme Court visit with a fucking microphone and people filming me just to make sure I don't do anything wrong what am I gonna do wrong

• 37:42Speaker 03

  but my sister is not famous and she had to go through this and she just in Georgia has like and he won 51% and my sister is an angel she has to pay child support so they have a good connection and he knows he's not alone there's a lot of parents out there that are fighting for their kids whether you're famous and have money or broken have nothing and they're fighting for no reason when it should just be about the child so I support him 100% and he knows that

• 38:06Speaker 02

  I don't even know what school he goes to I don't even know where he lives even though I'm paying for it I don't even know anything about him what friends he has what he even likes what cartoons he likes don't know anymore because everything has to go through the lawyer and it's just such a pain in the ass

• 38:21Bunnie XO?

  is Nikki willing to put her hurt aside and have some sort of friendship with you so that you guys can can

• 38:28Speaker 02

  I think when a girl is scorned

• 38:32Speaker 02

  Then all they see is fire in their eyes and Babylon's burning and it's gonna burn your fucking house down. There's nothing you could do to save it.

• 38:38Speaker 03

  Right.

• 38:39Speaker 02

  It's just.

• 38:41Speaker 02

  There's.

• 38:42Speaker 03

  It's hard and the kid's young, so just I think right now, like me personally, I just, like I said, I come from a, you know, divorced family and you know, it's all about him and Phoenix. It's not about her, it's not about me, it's not about April and Phil, it's about those two.

• 38:55Speaker 02

  And you know that everybody on her end, they're hearing her one-sided story. She's probably going around saying, Bam left me high and dry and, and he gives me only $400 a month. Yeah, I was giving you five, until the judge said you're only getting four. And I gave it all my money to lawyers when I begged you not to get one, because we don't need that. So it's all gone anyway. There's nothing to divide anymore.

• 39:18Speaker 03

  Yeah, the lawyers take everything.

• 39:20Speaker 02

  Started from scratch and I love it that way.

• 39:21Speaker 03

  Hmm.

• 39:22Speaker 02

  So now if we want to get a house, we pick out our own furniture, we do it. I like starting from scratch. I've never been more happy in my life on this great adventure of just going from spot to spot, meeting new people, coming up with new deals, new what, whatever. It's great.

• 39:37Speaker 03

  Sounds like you date a boss bitch, you know.

• 39:39Speaker 02

  In, in, in a vicious circle of the hair of the dog. I wake up, like, oh, I feel like shit from drinking, but if I have a drink, I'm gonna feel pretty good. And if I have another one, I'm gonna feel even better. If I have a third one, I'll feel great. Next thing you know, you wake up, oh, fuck, I feel like shit. But if I have a beer, I know that.

• 39:57Speaker 03

  It's a cycle. Why do they call it hair of the dog? I've never understood that.

• 40:01Speaker 02

  It's the hair of the dog that bit you.

• 40:02Speaker 03

  But why, the dog hair doesn't bite. Yeah. I like dog hair. I've never understood that saying either. Me neither, but I use the method often in the past.

• 40:12Bunnie XO?

  It sounds to me like you have found some sort of purpose.

• 40:16Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 40:16Bunnie XO?

  And that's what's driving you and that's exciting to you because

• 40:20Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 40:20Bunnie XO?

  even though you have done everything that you've done, it, it almost like seems like it started so young for you that you weren't able to appreciate it.

• 40:27Speaker 02

  Exactly, like.

• 40:28Speaker 03

  Amen, buddy.

• 40:29Speaker 02

  I mean. I made my own video at the age of 16 and through word of mouth sold over a million copies without even putting an ad in anything, just mom and pop skate shops were selling it and everybody said, you need to see this video. So then I did another one and then that's when Jackass found me. I was the first person to ever ride for Nike. And um, when Element put out my skateboards, they also put out Bam wallets, Bam sunglasses, Bam everything. And when Jackass became bigger than MTV could imagine, I already had all this Bam stuff out before they could even make Jackass stuff. So I was clocking Mega Bank.

• 41:07Speaker 02

  And every wish that I had, any goal that I set would come true quicker than my deadline date and I fucking ran out of goals.

• 41:15Bunnie XO?

  I feel like you made Jackass though, because you already had like a little mini empire with CKY before even getting on to Jack. I knew who you were before Jackass.

• 41:23Speaker 03

  Everybody says, all the fans really say that.

• 41:26Bunnie XO?

  Like people who really grew up with you, because you raised some of us, you know, like we grew up with you and you were like, you were pretty much like one of the first real content creators. If you think about it, like really influencer, whatever the fuck they want to call it.

• 41:38Speaker 02

  Thing, living in Pennsylvania.

• 41:40Bunnie XO?

  And he's the hottest.

• 41:41Speaker 02

  That's when Tremaine in Knoxville, they would be in, in Los Angeles, making all these secret deals. Then they do a fucking documentary about how Jackass got created. And talking about Big Brother the whole time. And at the very tail end, probably about five percent, oh yeah. And then Ben was doing CKY in Pennsylvania. If you do the math, I sold millions of copies. You fucking barely sold 20,000 copies of Big Brother's video called poop and tit and fucking crap.

• 42:06Speaker 03

  I don't even know.

• 42:06Bunnie XO?

  I've never even heard of them. Yeah. Exactly. I know who CKY is. Never heard of that.

• 42:12Speaker 02

  I have learned how to fucking forgive and be happy and I deleted anybody that's giving me a problem, but I just want to take my anger out on one person. Jeff Tremaine's too much of a fucking pussy. Knoxville, get into a ring with me. Take off your boxing gloves. One, two, three, you're fucking done for.

• 42:30Bunnie XO?

  So you're still really angry with Knoxville?

• 42:33Speaker 02

  Put me through hell, made me pay all this fucking treatment money and they're filming behind my back while I'm in treatment. So they already set. Me up to fucking fail and then and then as soon as I do the slightest thing wrong, I'm not in the movie. So I paid a hundred grand to go to treatment only for me to fuck up. And then now I'm not in the movie. They had it all planned out. And I think that Knoxville tried to do this movie called Action Point in South Africa. And they had a fifteen million dollar budget and he tried to do it without us and it was a fucking flop. They only made two million dollars. So when that happens, the label says you're not free to go. You're either gonna have to pay this back or fucking put your house up for sale or do a Jackass five. Well, if Pam's not in it, then that's already six million, five million dollars that we don't have to pay back.

• 43:15Speaker 02

  So we could already say he's a fucking liability because he's drunk out in front of a hotel room on TMZ. Yeah, well, on Jackass two, I got a high five for fucking good press. When I got a felony charge having Branson Knuckles at the LAX airport drunk as hell.

• 43:29Speaker 03

  It's all what they need from you at the time.

• 43:31Speaker 02

  Yeah, but now I'm a liability. Fuck you guys.

• 43:34Speaker 03

  I'm just gonna say on that note, since we skipped right forward to that, you know, it's funny how recently my DMs and phone calls and text messages. I'm gonna let them all know right now to stop texting him.

• 43:45Speaker 02

  Yeah, and if you double dog Knoxville to do any stunt, I'm so brave, I'll have to do it. Why triple dog dare you step into a fucking ring with me? You're done for. You're over.

• 43:54Bunnie XO?

  When you say your DMs and stuff like that, who's DMing you and calling?

• 43:58Speaker 03

  Well, just in the beginning, I mean, I'll just say, you know, Novak reached out, but I don't even know who he is. Right. So I don't want to get involved with their relationship. I have a thirty year friendship relationship and no one will get involved in that either, you know?

• 44:08Bunnie XO?

  Brandon was around during the CKY days too, wasn't he?

• 44:11Speaker 02

  Yeah, he was. And you know, I I've helped him with over a dozen treatment centers. I rescued him over a dozen fucking overdoses at the hospital. I've paid for all of his mistakes and I don't want any of that money back now that he's doing good. But like he stole my S fifty five Mercedes, a hundred twenty five thousand dollar car when I was in Germany, high on pills to go get more pills. Wrecked into the dean's car, Westchester, fled the scene. They tried to charge me over until I proved I was in Germany. But he says, you always gotta take a cone of buoy for your actions. All right, well, you owe me a fucking car. You're buying your seventh treatment house in Delaware, driving around in your Range Rover. You owe me a car.

• 44:50Speaker 03

  But even just. Recently, like I went, because I go through his phone. So anybody who's texting, I read everything because I'm allowed to. And if I need to change the number, I will because there's nobody allowed but our little small circle right now.

• 44:59Bunnie XO?

  Which is probably what's keeping him safe and sober.

• 45:01Speaker 03

  Yeah, I can't have any of that. And I've gone through the phone and I saw the message. It's like, let's go to the sausage castle and you can knock me out. I'm like, I love Mike, but I'm like, and Mike Busey wasn't the one texting, but you know, Steve was asking him to like punch him. Like, we're not, what are you talking, like, we're doing, he's doing great. Like, you should probably want to talk to him and ask how he's doing instead of doing something that would benefit you.

• 45:24Speaker 02

  And that's why I like just putting my phone down. I like to just focus on, we spent all day every day, like, we are such a fucking powerhouse team that she takes better photos than most of the people on Thrash.

• 45:36Bunnie XO?

  Those are all my pictures of the skateboarding.

• 45:37Speaker 02

  I tell her the angle is we get the shot, she stretches me beforehand and it's, we just have like a perfect day that I don't need any fucking phone calls interrupting the flow of that. And you know, everybody asked me like, if they did another Jackass, would you want to be, hell no, it is done. Tremaine has ruined the legacy. It was supposed to be a fucking tribute to Ryan Dunn. Now he puts these fucking new hee haw heads in there and, and it's just.

• 46:02Bunnie XO?

  And too many balls. Like, why were we stapling balls the whole time? It was very disturbing on my screen.

• 46:06Speaker 02

  And all he does is sit behind the camera and say, get hurt in action. Poopies got bitten by a fucking shark. He could have died. And the movie made a hundred and fifty million dollars in the box office. And apparently he got like less than forty grand. You can't even buy a fucking Datsun with a used tire on with that kind of money. Meanwhile. Yeah, you had to, or a Hyundai, but you had to sign a contract on Jackass four. Everybody could get fucked with at any given moment, except for Tremaine because he's the director. Now because he's a fucking pussy.

• 46:36Bunnie XO?

  So circling back to Steve-O, I had a conversation with him the other day because he's coming on the podcast and Jay just did his podcast and I told him that you were coming on and he said, um, that he is, I can't, I'd have to look at the text message, but so much, I think he said around the, like he's hurt, he's reached out to you and he's hurt because he hasn't heard a response.

• 46:56Speaker 03

  I won't let him respond right now. So he could be mad at me, but that's okay. Maybe when I get to know a little bit more of the situation, right now, my focus is his mental health and my relationship. Like, I've only been with this person for eight months and it went public kind of immediately, which I can handle. But, you know, right now, they don't know him anymore right now. This person is on a whole new chapter. It's not about counting days. It's not about how, you know, it's about he's changed, he's turned a page. And if, if those friendships can survive, then that's great. But right now.

• 47:28Speaker 02

  I love Stevo. When the time is right, we'll, we'll talk and everything's cool. But I mean, like, I did his tour. He asked me to go on tour to do, open up for his comedy show and get some money to pay some legal fee bills of the mess that I'm in. And I completed my mission. Everything was a success. I didn't drink like how he asked and, uh, and then I find out that he puts all my money in a Phoenix Wolf Trust Fund when he turns 18. I'm like, I earned that money. Yeah, but we didn't want you to spend it on alcohol or drugs. It doesn't matter. I did the work. Fuck and pay me. And it's, it's not like I need your money. I have a fucking couple of bank accounts. I could just go right to the store and get some. But like, you're not at liberty to be starting a Phoenix the Wolf Trust Fund and he gets it when he's 18. It's, fuck, fuck that.

• 48:12Bunnie XO?

  It sounds to me like you're really hurt and upset and tired of people making fucking decisions for you.

• 48:18Speaker 02

  Making decisions for me? And I, I, I can't even trust, you know, I, it's just hard to trust anybody. I don't know what their fucking real agenda is.

• 48:25Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, that's tough.

• 48:27Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 48:27Bunnie XO?

  That's heavy to not be able to trust anybody like that.

• 48:30Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 48:30Speaker 03

  I always say friendships are meant to be like they will, right?

• 48:33Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 48:33Speaker 03

  I mean, they've known each other a really long time.

• 48:35Speaker 02

  We have created such a tight bubble of friends that, that, that.

• 48:39Speaker 03

  Right now is.

• 48:39Speaker 02

  You know, we have a perfect circle of tight friends and I'm not gonna let anybody fucking dent it anymore.

• 48:45Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 48:45Speaker 02

  Viva La Bam. I let in so many friends that a bubble just bursted.

• 48:49Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 48:50Speaker 02

  And you, when you keep giving everybody your phone number, then you start talking, you start forgetting to talk about the important ones. There was a point where my manager, Terry Artie, was so great. He would get me fucking commercials to do Right Guard for a million dollars of one day of work.

• 49:04Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 49:05Speaker 02

  And now I'm pawning off his phone calls to a friend of a friend because I don't have time to fucking answer it now. Which I've highly regret doing. You know, when I look back at everything, I'm like, shit.

• 49:15Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 49:16Speaker 02

  He had this movie.

• 49:17Bunnie XO?

  Crowd got too big.

• 49:18Speaker 02

  For me to go, I was too hung over to make the flight. And because of that, I think that's when he was just like, you know what? Enough is enough. I can't. I just had a lot of money on the line for you to be producing this movie in Hollywood. And you were just too hung over to get on the flight. Well, I'm done.

• 49:33Bunnie XO?

  I think that circles back to doing this at such a young age and just not appreciating the opportunities because you didn't know. Like you literally grew up doing this. So to you, it was just like, oh, another fucking deal. I'll get another one, you know?

• 49:45Speaker 02

  And to have three hundred thousand dollars to spend a week for sixty five weeks.

• 49:50Bunnie XO?

  That's unheard of. They would never give somebody a budget like that now. That's unheard of.

• 49:55Speaker 02

  Our meetings at MTV would be fucking bonkers. It's like, so what do you want to do this week? And most people be like, is this guy crazy? I'll be like, how about we paint the entire kitchen blue? And then we'll have an elephant come in and we'll make the outside a fucking moat with a drawbridge. And then I'll keep wrecking Don Vito, my uncle's car until he gets fed up and drives my Hummer off a cliff.

• 50:13Bunnie XO?

  Don Vito.

• 50:13Speaker 02

  Boom, done, deal.

• 50:14Bunnie XO?

  Now he saves elephants.

• 50:19Bunnie XO?

  I love that. So going back to you and Ryan Dunn's relationship, let's focus on that for a little bit. You guys were like best of friends.

• 50:27Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 50:27Bunnie XO?

  Take me on that journey with you guys.

• 50:30Speaker 02

  Um, well, we met in, I was in ninth grade. He was in eleventh at East High School in West Jersey, Pennsylvania. He just, um, moved from Cleveland, Ohio. And, um, he was just such a character. He was, he didn't know how to skateboard and he knew that I was making the CKY video. And, uh, he became a part of the crew just because he would be the guy to do the gnarly thing that everybody would back out on. You know, he's big. So, so what does everybody put out on to get in that wheelbarrow and get pushed off of that three story building into this prickly bush? Just give me a shot of Crown Royal and let's get it done and over with. So, so he would be like, we called him random hero because he would always save the day.

• 51:12Speaker 02

  And, um, and we did everything together. Anytime we did an MTV interview, he would always be right there. If I started trailing off or, you know, he would always take over. So to find out that he got in a, um, car accident, it was very devastating because I never had anybody. Die that I was close to and I never knew what it felt like. It was always like, hey, did you hear Aunt Audrey from Pittsburgh died? I'm like, who?

• 51:35Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 51:36Speaker 02

  Thanksgiving dinner with her, five Thanksgiving, all right, whatever. Are you gonna go to the funeral? I guess if I have to, I don't know. So. Anybody that died until then, I never knew, I didn't.

• 51:47Bunnie XO?

  You never knew a pain.

• 51:48Speaker 02

  But then when that it hit so hard to the point where. I remember we were in outside of Phoenix, Arizona. I was doing an appearance the next day and we were in the woods having a campfire. You could see all the stars and I'm like, man, I'm really happy right now. I couldn't be happier. Then all of a sudden I just punch out the van window and break it for no reason. And the tour manager was like, why did you do that? I'm like, I don't know. I'm just mad and I don't know why. I just don't know why. Turns out he wrecked at. 1228 in Pennsylvania and I smashed the window at fucking 928 in Phoenix. So it's like, we had such a. Connection that I knew something bad happened and I didn't know what till I found out the next morning.

• 52:28Bunnie XO?

  So it was like he was like a soulmate.

• 52:31Speaker 03

  Like he wanted you to know. Yeah.

• 52:33Bunnie XO?

  Soulmates, soulmates can be your friends too. It's not always a romantic link.

• 52:36Speaker 02

  And my mom would always tell him like, you get these fucking fast cars with these fast engines. You're gonna get into a wreck. He's like, yeah, a fiery wreck. And that's how, and that's how it happened. He wrecked. He flipped me in a car eight times in the oncoming traffic when I was 16 years old. In, in school, he, he was doing a radio. He was installing radios and he's like, cop in the car. I got this Jetta.

• 52:57Bunnie XO?

  I bet he's happy and happy. Not the Jetta.

• 52:59Speaker 02

  So, so we were flying 110 miles per hour. Somebody caught us off. We slid for so long, like a football field. As soon as we hit the. Grass in the median, we started flipping into oncoming traffic. My brother got flown out on the last flip. He was 40 feet in like a moat. I could see his feet sticking out. And when I saw him, he was just like. A helicopter had to come get him out. I had a big softball on my head from bashing the window out on the first flip. But I gotta thank Chris Rab because he was sitting next to me and he put my seatbelt on and I ejected. I said, I'm not a pussy. And then he put it on again and then we flipped instantly after the second time he put it on.

• 53:37Bunnie XO?

  Oh my gosh. Do you feel like after Ryan's death is kind of when you started spiraling?

• 53:42Speaker 02

  Hell yeah, because I was so lost. That I didn't know what to do. It's like, well, now we can't make a CKY video. If we do another, it won't be the same.

• 53:50Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 53:52Speaker 02

  And. Instead of like drinking as a celebration, it was just drinking to forget.

• 53:58Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 53:58Speaker 02

  And it became a real fucking problem and I didn't even know it. I would always. I was always that guy to go, you know, 90 days and be like, all right, you know what? We're going to Ruth Chris Steakhouse tonight. I could have one wine for dinner. Yeah, it might be one wine that night for dinner, but the next day I'm gonna have two. The next day it's gonna be two bottles and then I'm out looking for drugs. It always happens that way.

• 54:21Bunnie XO?

  And getting your phone stolen was.

• 54:22Speaker 02

  Over a baker's dozen of tries to realize that.

• 54:25Bunnie XO?

  Oh, my goodness. So jumping back in, do you think Bam, um, you know, all the trauma that you've been through? Have you had, I know you've been to all, did the Florida shuffle, but have you ever had any like trauma therapy?

• 54:39Speaker 02

  Yeah, I mean, they put me through everything. I like a part of the, uh, jackass thing. I had to blow into a soberling four times a day. I had to pay for $800 of therapy twice a week. Neurofeedback, same thing. Um, yeah, and, and.

• 54:55Bunnie XO?

  But I think you were forced. I think if you did it like on your own.

• 54:58Speaker 02

  I have therapy of hearing sirens when I, cause I was on, when I was on that manhunt. It was gnarly. There was three helicopters in the sky, eight police officers circling around, trying to find me through the woods. I am a professional and hopping barbed wire fences. I was scared shitless on the fourth one, but on the eighth one, I became a pro and then I drank the brandy wine river because I was dying of thirst. I slept in a box in a fucking house that I thought was abandoned until they pulled up and they were so terrified. They come up to unlock the door and they just see a pair of feet hanging out this box and all of a sudden I just jump out like a bat out of hell. I just go, I'm sorry. And I keep running down the railroad tracks.

• 55:33Bunnie XO?

  Oh, my gosh.

• 55:33Speaker 02

  I was fucking Harriet Tubman from the Underground Railroad. I had families hide me, take me to a Albanian restaurant. And then they took me from there. Finally, I, I made it to the Jersey Shore at a buddy's house. And, and I was telling random people just to see how far it would go. I told my mom that I was in North Carolina, just to see if that would travel anywhere. Sure enough, turns out like we found out Bam's in North Carolina on a high P speed chase, all larried up. Because if he made it to North Carolina. Into that quick that that means he was driving one hundred and twenty miles per hour. I'm like, that was a lie that I told to my mom just to see how far it would go.

• 56:11Bunnie XO?

  Oh, my gosh.

• 56:11Speaker 02

  I'm in Jersey assholes.

• 56:13Bunnie XO?

  There's just so much betrayal and there's so much trauma here. And I think that whenever you're ready to sit down and kind of deal with it without, with it being on your terms, like Danny said, I think it would help you out a lot because you just are so hurt. You know, like, there's just so much turmoil inside. And that's why you drink. That's why you do the drugs you do is to hide and cover up all this pain that you have.

• 56:35Speaker 02

  And with the relationship, it's all about trust. If you don't have trust, you got nothing.

• 56:40Bunnie XO?

  Right. Absolutely. That's one hundred percent right. And now you've got Danny.

• 56:44Speaker 02

  Yeah, hell, yeah.

• 56:46Speaker 03

  We know there's no filter here.

• 56:49Speaker 03

  It works for sure.

• 56:50Bunnie XO?

  So how many days sober are you now?

• 56:52Speaker 02

  Since August first.

• 56:53Bunnie XO?

  Okay, so that's, that's actually a good while. Is that the longest you've been sober?

• 56:58Speaker 02

  Well, minus the Florida shuffle because I, I was forced to be.

• 57:02Bunnie XO?

  Right, right. On your own. This is you on your own. Yeah, that's amazing.

• 57:06Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 57:07Speaker 03

  Love it.

• 57:07Bunnie XO?

  What are you guys' plans to just keep this going? And like, what do you guys do differently now than any other time?

• 57:14Speaker 02

  I had known this. All I needed all along was a structured schedule. It's fun because I had no nine to five job. I had no boss ever tell me what to do. And, you know, I, I need a structured bedtime schedule. I know when I'm with her, I'm in bed.

• 57:33Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, I text her last night at like nine thirty.

• 57:35Speaker 03

  Thirty. I woke up this morning. I was like, I missed something. We were in bed. He was already asleep.

• 57:40Speaker 02

  And that's why I love having the dogs because we wake up, I walk the dogs, we take care of the, if I, if I can't take care of myself, I can't take care of the dogs. But we walk the dogs, she stretches me, we go to the gym. Then I look for a skate spot. She shoots the skate photo or films it for me. We get it done. We go get something to eat. And then I either paint or read or write or edit or whatever it is. It's a whole fun structured schedule. And Steve O would always tell me, dude, if you just get sober, you'll see that neat things will happen. I'm like, well, I've been sober and the only neat things that happen is nothing. Because I'm forced to go to treatment. I'm forced to go to AA to learn that alcohol is banned. It's not any good. I'm forced to go to therapy. I'm forced to go to nerve free. Make nothing fun is happening at all.

• 58:22Speaker 03

  I couldn't imagine, could you? Our personalities, I could not imagine someone making me swallow a pill and put me in a room with no freaking music or my phone or you or a text. They want you to go crazy.

• 58:33Speaker 02

  And I gotta say this.

• 58:34Speaker 03

  I mean, it's like a setup for disaster.

• 58:36Speaker 02

  How come the fucking FBI or no one has done research about this Amanda Rab client that Lima, my guardian? She died under her care and she changed the autopsy saying that it wasn't from what she died from. It was from a cardiac arrest seizure, which is what I started getting as soon as I met her.

• 58:54Speaker 03

  And it's online. So these things that are being, she already tried to go after BJ. She tried, but it's all on the internet. I mean, people are now aware of her lies.

• 59:04Bunnie XO?

  People aren't still in her care, are they?

• 59:05Speaker 02

  Well, I don't know. They better not be, but she made me, she made me talk about this neato fucking helmet that she made.

• 59:11Speaker 03

  Listen to this.

• 59:12Speaker 02

  And I put on this helmet and I'm, and she forced me to say how, how needed is and how it helps with therapy. In one eye, you see a little fucking kitten drinking milk. And then the other eye, you see a Tyrannosaurus Rex is coming at you at full speed, trying to eat you. And she's like, which eye do you pick? I picked the kitty cat. You're on the right path. No shit. I'm on the right fucking path. Why would I pick the left eye, which is a T-Rex coming at me to eat me?

• 59:35Speaker 03

  So they're basically using like psychedelic, you know, things to kind of trick your brain.

• 59:41Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 59:42Speaker 03

  And you know, if I, I went down the rabbit hole of BJ investigates and that's, that's how I, when he was sleeping and, and resting, I wanted to know and Pamela and BJ are friends and they showed me things that I started to understand the system, even working in the shuffle. I was familiar with it.

• 59:59Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 59:59Speaker 03

  And then watching how they use certain tools to manipulate the brain and they can keep them. So um, there's a word for it, but it's, it's a very scary.

• 1:00:11Speaker 02

  All BJ investigates wanted to do was free Bam. She started the free Bam movement. So if you're against that, then you're against me.

• 1:00:19Speaker 03

  BJ is a big, big deal with the Free Britney movement. So she's the one in case, not Just bam, she's uncovered the Wendy Williams recently, Casey Kasem back in the day like she's someone who is speaking for those.

• 1:00:29Bunnie XO?

  We need to get her on the podcast.

• 1:00:30Speaker 03

  I would, I'll definitely connect you to, um, let's not forget, this isn't just happening to famous people. This is happening to someone like you and I, well, you're, you know.

• 1:00:37Bunnie XO?

  No, I, I don't care.

• 1:00:38Speaker 03

  But I mean, just like you and I, like sitting in a room and your mom thinks you're okay and you're not because the person that's in control of you is a liar.

• 1:00:46Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:46Speaker 03

  And money hungry and.

• 1:00:48Bunnie XO?

  No, we went through this with our daughter. We had, we had to put her in a treatment.

• 1:00:51Speaker 03

  This is awful what they do.

• 1:00:52Bunnie XO?

  Last year in September and I researched everything because I was so scared of something like what happened to you happening to her. So.

• 1:01:00Speaker 03

  It's scary.

• 1:01:01Bunnie XO?

  I mean, yes, the mental health system is a fucking nightmare.

• 1:01:03Speaker 03

  And we definitely don't want to bash the good ones. I'm sorry. No, good ones are out there.

• 1:01:06Speaker 02

  I went to Aurora Mental Health in Pasadena, California, and I was just talking to the other people. I'm like, so what happened to you? He's like, I was just here for a 48 hour hold and then they found out that I insurance and I had nowhere to go and I've been here for fucking 150 days.

• 1:01:21Speaker 03

  They'll just keep you like a shell, like it's really scary.

• 1:01:24Speaker 02

  And I can't even get on the phone and I don't even know who I would call for help, but they found, I was only on a 48 hour hold and then they found out our insurance and I had nowhere to go. I've been here for 150 fucking days. I'm like, this is fucked up.

• 1:01:37Speaker 03

  And then if you go and say you kind of need help, like we just had a friend and we're not going to name drop him, but he was going through kind of the same thing that Bam's going through with custody and he said he just had a couple of bad days and he went to 51 or he went and they 51 50'd him and he had to check out. He was like, I don't belong here. Like I just, I'm having some personal issues and asking for help. They put him in with, you know, the people that really need help. So it's like, you're having a bad day. You can't really get the help. And then once you do, you're labeled, you're in the system and they want your money.

• 1:02:04Speaker 02

  If you're in a mental institution and you're hanging out with dudes that are fucking yelling at the trash can saying, why didn't you marry me? And the other one's trying to fucking French kiss their own sneaker. You're going to start doing that shit too over time.

• 1:02:17Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, you can't, if you can't beat them, join them.

• 1:02:19Speaker 02

  Why? Cause everybody else is.

• 1:02:20Speaker 03

  Just grab your sneaker and make out, it's fine.

• 1:02:22Bunnie XO?

  Oh my god, Bam, just hearing this stuff is just fucking wild, dude. Like, it is cra- this is, it hurts my heart for you, honestly.

• 1:02:31Speaker 02

  Yeah, and, and

• 1:02:31Bunnie XO?

  You seem like such a jovial

• 1:02:33Speaker 02

  The best thing to do is just to just shut your fucking cocksucker, because the more you talk, the more they can hold against you. My one buddy, Hannaford, called me from the mental, says, Bam, you don't understand, I don't belong here, you gotta get me out of here. And I hear, kum, kum, kum, I'm like, are you banging your head against the wall? He's like, yeah, I'm like, you just bought yourself another month, you idiot.

• 1:02:49Speaker 03

  Don't do that, then you're definitely staying.

• 1:02:50Speaker 02

  You hot air buffoon, you just bought yourself, yeah, bang your head against the wall, that's a real good idea.

• 1:02:55Speaker 03

  He's actually really good in the gym, too, this one.

• 1:02:57Bunnie XO?

  Is he?

• 1:02:58Speaker 03

  Giving himself benefits for

• 1:03:00Bunnie XO?

  Ah, let's talk about some good stuff. So what are you doing now that's different? Like, you're getting stretched, which I just discovered stretching this year, because I, too, I heard you say something that you had ripped your thing, your hamstring. I was fucking doing a TikTok thing, I fucking like was joking around and like doing this fucking stupid dance, not like a genuine TikTok dance, but I was like making fun of something. And snapped my fucking, uh, Achilles heel in half, dude.

• 1:03:25Speaker 03

  That is so painful.

• 1:03:26Bunnie XO?

  Bro, it's still fucked up, and this was on Halloween.

• 1:03:30Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:03:30Bunnie XO?

  And I fucking was like, fuck that, I gotta start stretching.

• 1:03:33Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah. And, and, and like

• 1:03:35Bunnie XO?

  That's what I've been doing, is stretching, and it's phenomenal.

• 1:03:38Speaker 02

  Yeah, I thought that there was, there was no hope for me, like, I was even, I was putting tacks in the, in my calf muscles. Like, there was a bunch of calves, my friend was like, what are you doing? I'm like, I'm putting tacks in my, why? I'm like, to relieve the pain.

• 1:03:52Bunnie XO?

  Oh my god.

• 1:03:52Speaker 02

  So like, tha- that's how stiff they were from just alcohol abuse and all the medication of side effects of stiff muscles, it was for real, it was that painful. And, and, uh, one yoga guy was like, just reach down and touch your toes, see if you can do it. I doubt I can, and I went, and my hamstring popped right here, I was out for a year from that. I, I even, when I got out of treatment, they let me skate a three foot half plate with my friend Jeff Rasp, and I didn't even get to drop in yet. I ran up the three foot ramp and, and basically got such a cramp that I couldn't do it anymore. Tried the easiest trick on the planet, looped out, cause some little shit ass waxed to coping like a fucking Eskimo. And I hyperextended my elbow to the bone coming out and broke my wrist for the sixteenth time, and my arm still won't go straight from it.

• 1:04:37Speaker 03

  It's getting better.

• 1:04:38Bunnie XO?

  My gosh.

• 1:04:39Speaker 03

  We'll straighten that shit out, too.

• 1:04:41Bunnie XO?

  So stretching, working out, being on a regimen.

• 1:04:44Speaker 03

  Dogs.

• 1:04:45Bunnie XO?

  Dogs.

• 1:04:46Speaker 03

  He has such a good relationship with them. That's like another thing, um, not to backtrack, but.

• 1:04:50Bunnie XO?

  Did you never have animals before?

• 1:04:52Speaker 02

  I've always had cats because, you know, yeah, but, but anytime I would have a dog, I, I, I leave too much. I travel too much. So a friend would watch them and when a friend watches your dog for a month and it's a brand new puppy, you come back and they're like, I can't give this back to you.

• 1:05:08Bunnie XO?

  Aww.

• 1:05:08Speaker 02

  I get it.

• 1:05:09Speaker 03

  Yeah, gotcha. But you know, Bam, I think a lot of his friends will say like, you know, bringing up how he has been in this world for so long, that he's always had people around him. And sometimes they'll say, gosh, I just can't believe you're letting him go hiking with the dogs. I'm like, letting him hike with the dogs? Like, what do you mean letting him? Like, number one, I get a few free moment to hang out and watch maybe some trash TV for a second.

• 1:05:33Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:05:33Speaker 03

  And then, you know, I'm, I'm thinking and, and learning that people have never left, let him be like alone.

• 1:05:39Bunnie XO?

  Let him be a human.

• 1:05:40Speaker 03

  Be in the woods and I've, they've kind of created anxiety for me, which who wants that? I don't want him going, you can't go work out in the woods. You know, it's like, who, who wants that relationship? So if Bam's gonna fuck up, he's gonna fuck up. He knows what he's gonna lose if he fucks up.

• 1:05:54Bunnie XO?

  It sounds like he's finding peace, though.

• 1:05:56Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:05:56Bunnie XO?

  I don't feel like you've ever had peace your entire life.

• 1:05:59Speaker 03

  I just like, I'm saying, I let him just go do his thing.

• 1:06:01Speaker 02

  Harmony, which is one thing that was like, we have such a harmonious, harmonious day. Harmony is what I needed. And, um, man, I.

• 1:06:11Speaker 03

  Just spending time like alone with the dogs and he takes them for hikes, like things that, you know, at forty degree weather, Pennsylvania is very cold for me. So.

• 1:06:18Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:06:18Speaker 03

  I'm not hiking at five AM with them. I don't want to.

• 1:06:21Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:06:21Speaker 03

  But he goes and does that and it gives him time to bond with the dogs and, and it gets him, you know, they have their own little relationship, which I love.

• 1:06:28Speaker 02

  I'm starting to think, you know what? Maybe the, the interventionalist really thought that I was schizophrenic because some of the stories that I tell just seems like a nut in treatment. Like I was telling somebody, yeah, so I shipped my purple Lamborghini to North Korea because Kim Jong-il likes sports cars and he wouldn't let me drive it around, but he let me park it at the airport. And then Iggy Pop played my wedding. And Billy Idol cut the roof off of the Lamborghini. He's probably like, this guy is fucking batshit crazy. But if you look it up on YouTube, you're gonna find that shit.

• 1:06:56Bunnie XO?

  You've lived twenty lives, dude.

• 1:06:58Speaker 03

  He really has. I mean, the people that he knows are insane.

• 1:07:00Bunnie XO?

  I feel like he's-

• 1:07:01Speaker 02

  This guy's talking about shipping his Lamborghini for Kim Jong Il. What? Nobody goes to North Korea. He probably don't even have a Lamborghini. Fuck you. It's all true.

• 1:07:09Bunnie XO?

  I feel like the reason why you're so happy right now is because you actually don't have to put on a show every day.

• 1:07:14Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:07:15Bunnie XO?

  You don't have to please anybody else but yourself and Danny. And you're actually just being able to be Bam. And I think you're finding who you are now.

• 1:07:23Speaker 02

  And I have a strict diet. The only thing I eat is pussy meat.

• 1:07:26Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:07:26Bunnie XO?

  Oh.

• 1:07:28Bunnie XO?

  Well, I mean, that doesn't sound like a bad diet at all. It's not a bad diet. And I mean, I don't blame you. It's like filet mignon over here, you know?

• 1:07:37Speaker 03

  Filet. Filet lobster.

• 1:07:41Bunnie XO?

  Are you eating healthier, though, and stuff like that? I'm sure Danny has you.

• 1:07:44Speaker 02

  Once, once my leg, my body feels so good now that all I want to do is eat right. And I really don't, I never, I never thought the day would come to where I, I would stop. Because it's always free if you're at a nightclub. You wanna do a bump in the bathroom? Sure, you know? And then, you know, you get really addicted to it.

• 1:08:06Bunnie XO?

  Not these days. You'll die in the bathroom. Yeah.

• 1:08:08Speaker 02

  I've been on the ground on this rug with a fucking microscope looking for crumbs, you know? And I'm like, I'm never gonna stop. It's just a matter of time. I'm gonna do it again. Now, I don't feel that way. You could put it right in front of me. I'll flush it down the toilet. Don't want any more.

• 1:08:21Speaker 03

  But you know, like, people always say, forget the haters online too, like, oh, I can't believe you're fucking Bam, blah, blah. Number one, mind your business. Fuck who I want.

• 1:08:28Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:08:28Speaker 03

  And number two, like, I wasn't gonna leave him as a person. Like, I'm a good person, a people person. And I, you know, the people that I believe were connected to, when you have a connection, it was, whether we were gonna last sexually or not, or what booty call or not, I still wanted to be his friend. And like, when he, especially in Hollywood, like, it's so hard to find normal people in this world as it is. But when he did have to go to Pennsylvania, and we had the two days together, which people don't know, the judge gave him two days with me before I had to leave. And the attorney, because I was upset, and the attorney said, you know, you guys- Have to have him in by Sunday and this was Friday. So we had a couple of two really good days and I remember saying like, he just said, just don't leave me here because they're gonna shuffle me like he knew that if he stayed in the system,

• 1:09:13Speaker 03

  we weren't gonna be able to see each other.

• 1:09:14Speaker 02

  What the little tiff with my brother when we went to court, we flew in from California, my Bentley was there parked at the LAX airport because we thought we were coming right back. We put the dogs up. And, and he's like, you're sentenced to stay in, in Pennsylvania for three months. But your honor, we live in California. My car's in the airport. My, our dogs are there and my brother lives at my house. So he's like, ain't my problem. Yeah, it's my problem. It's a fucking big one. So now,

• 1:09:44Speaker 03

  Go get your car. I was like,

• 1:09:46Speaker 02

  I'm like, what do you want me to do? Float around of motel sixes around fucking Pennsylvania all day for, why am I sentenced to be in Pennsylvania? All my stuff, I moved to California. Well, tough shit. Like, yeah, it's very tough.

• 1:09:58Speaker 03

  So that's when you know you like somebody because basically I had to fly back to LA by myself. I had a lot to think about. And then I went to my best friend Heather's house in Hollywood and La Brea and I'm like, and his good friend Dre, you know, a few good people were, I said, what do I do? And they're like, go get him. He had eight days and he said, if you don't come get me on the eighth day, they're gonna keep me here. So basically everyone gathered, it got his, I got his Bentley. They checked the oil. They made sure it was fine. I grabbed the dogs. Heather packed me up. Dre packed me up.

• 1:10:24Bunnie XO?

  Two dogs in the Bentley?

• 1:10:25Speaker 03

  Two dogs in the Bentley and me and enough to get across.

• 1:10:30Speaker 03

  Yeah, it took me five days to get there.

• 1:10:32Speaker 02

  It really like made me appreciate everything again. Well, we'll all be on a road trip and I'll just like pull over on the side of the road. She'll be like, what are you doing? I'm like, just appreciating this view for a moment. Like you gotta understand. I was locked away, like the only outside I got to see was a fucking barbed wire fence to smoke a cigarette.

• 1:10:51Speaker 03

  Brutal.

• 1:10:52Bunnie XO?

  God, it's like prison.

• 1:10:58Bunnie XO?

  That's terrible.

• 1:10:59Speaker 02

  Yeah, they make it seem all nice on the brochure. It's right by the beach in Delray. Yeah. But I'm locked up and the beach is right there and you won't even let me go to it.

• 1:11:08Bunnie XO?

  That is so sad. So you guys are engaged now?

• 1:11:12Speaker 03

  We are.

• 1:11:12Bunnie XO?

  Is there gonna be a wedding?

• 1:11:14Speaker 02

  Yeah, yes, but we wanted to.

• 1:11:17Speaker 03

  Okay, perfect. I don't have.

• 1:11:19Bunnie XO?

  And Jay gets to be the ring bearer.

• 1:11:22Bunnie XO?

  No, we don't want to take it from Phoenix.

• 1:11:23Speaker 02

  We really want, you know, like Yellow Wolf or Tokyo Hotel or something to. Play Doria and that's not an easy thing because you need the lighting and the stage and all that. So it's not something that's gonna happen soon. We're gonna plan this really well.

• 1:11:37Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:11:38Speaker 03

  Yeah, it happened, you know, it was just a fun day and then I forget what people zoom in on us now. So I wasn't gonna take the ring off, even though it was like a cute little antique. He made me pick his hand. He's like, pick a hand.

• 1:11:49Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, tell me how it happened.

• 1:11:50Speaker 03

  Yeah, it was really cute. So there was this house in Pennsylvania, Miss Pamela, Mrs. Pamela Duff that they have that has a waterfall and a lot of potential to live.

• 1:11:58Speaker 02

  The Duff family, Ed Duff is a pro skateboarder for Tony Hawk's company, Birdhouse and me and him are friends and when I had nowhere to go and I'm sentenced to stay in Pennsylvania and I can't even go home. He said, come stay with it because they own Duff Electric. They have a bunch of properties.

• 1:12:13Bunnie XO?

  Stay in your own house or you didn't want to?

• 1:12:15Speaker 02

  So they took us in and um, they had this really nice house that that they wanted to, that they just own, but it it needs a lot of work and it's right on the Delaware River in this cool town called New Hope, which is like this cool.

• 1:12:28Speaker 03

  But you're gonna leave out a fun detail and the girls need a detail.

• 1:12:31Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, we need the, we need the girly details.

• 1:12:33Speaker 03

  Details. I'm a butterfly mom. I raise butterflies. I've been doing it for like nine years. I want to be a bee mom one day too. So I saw potential at this place. He was talking skate parks. I saw the waterfall. Pamela just would love for us to live there because she's ready for another project.

• 1:12:46Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:12:47Speaker 03

  And I see in the front, I'm like, oh, that'd be a cool butterfly garden, you know, and I'm like looking around because it used to be a restaurant. So there's a lot of potential, but could be a little crazy. So as we're like driving, which I thought when we were in the Poconos, I was in the worst outfit, this purple jumpsuit with a beanie. And he takes me to this like heart shaped hotel and I'm like, not in this outfit, please lord, no. I was thinking like, I hope he's not being like romantic and weird, this heart, you know what I mean? It was like heart shaped. I'm like, okay, not looking too good. Long story short, it was that night.

• 1:13:19Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:13:19Speaker 03

  That we left that place. Nothing happened. So I was like, oh, cool. It was like, that was fun. So then we're like driving, driving, driving and he literally goes, oh my gosh, do you know, and it was pitch black. It was like 10 o'clock at night and he's like.

• 1:13:30Speaker 02

  Well, we were just having such a good road trip, listening to all of our favorite music and I noticed that that was the house that we wanted to fix up. And everything. So I just pulled over.

• 1:13:40Speaker 03

  In the butterfly.

• 1:13:41Speaker 02

  I had these rings in my hand. Once, once I kissed her at the, at the dove property, I threw the rings near the waterfall. They're still sitting in there somewhere. We haven't been back long enough to go find them again.

• 1:13:53Bunnie XO?

  Okay, so he proposed to you with the rings. Pick one and then threw them.

• 1:13:58Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:13:59Bunnie XO?

  Such a bam move.

• 1:14:00Speaker 03

  And I'm like, okay. And then he like sat up against this little wall and he's like, will you marry me? And I'm like, are you fucking around? Like, are you kidding? Or whatever? Cause we were like sitting in that little butterfly garden. And it was just like super cute and romantic. He knows I'm not like all blingy and need anything crazy. So it was just really fun. And I, and I was like, well, duh, yeah. Like if you're being serious, you know, we kept it quiet for a little bit. But then of course, those little people out there got a hold of my finger and we're zooming in. So they started asking questions. I'm like, oh yeah, I guess I should say something that a really good friend of mine asked. So I told her, yes. And then that's how we know Leanne with us. So you're in good hands with her because she's like, can I talk about it? And I just looked at him, I'm like, well, I'd rather someone talk about it from us before they start talking about it.

• 1:14:42Bunnie XO?

  The rumors start, yeah.

• 1:14:43Speaker 03

  So then I was like, all right, let's talk to her. And here we are. It's been crazy.

• 1:14:48Bunnie XO?

  So what does 2024 have for Bam and Danny? What do you guys have planned? I know you guys are doing all these horror cons and.

• 1:14:54Speaker 03

  We're booked to like October, which is exciting.

• 1:14:56Speaker 02

  Die and save the world or what we.

• 1:14:58Speaker 03

  We skate, we save. Well, I'm the big animal.

• 1:15:01Speaker 02

  Save the world or what we can of it tour.

• 1:15:03Speaker 03

  So like he skates and I'm like checking, you know, we were in New Orleans and the people are just walking over the pit bull. I'm in all glam.

• 1:15:08Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:15:09Speaker 03

  And I'm like, I'm gonna cry. I'm gonna cry. Glam's gone. I'm like holding the pit bull. He was all broken.

• 1:15:15Speaker 02

  Everybody walking past the dog, like he's just searching for food, starving to death. They're just like, look at, they didn't want anything to do with it. And she gets out, she's all done up like this because we have to go to a horror con or Comic Con.

• 1:15:26Speaker 03

  I just picked the dog up.

• 1:15:27Speaker 02

  And we're in the ghetto at the skate park under a bridge. They were probably like, who is this chick that just pulled up in a purple fucking Bentley to save this dog with fleas all over?

• 1:15:36Speaker 03

  Don't care. But then, you know, the skater community, people don't understand how rad they are.

• 1:15:41Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:15:41Speaker 03

  So these two like rad chicks come over, they're scared, like, do you need help? These skater chicks. And I said, well, I just called the SPCA and she happened to have a five, six, one number, West Palm, me. I had the same area code, so she scooped them right up, took them out of hell and it's just, it's, it's a good balance because I'm not a skateboarder, but I can kind of fit in anywhere. And, you know, the skate parks we go to unfortunately aren't very, you know, they're not in the best areas. So you see a lot.

• 1:16:07Speaker 02

  And they always find weed there.

• 1:16:09Speaker 03

  Well, yeah, true. But, you know, you see like the cats and the dogs and it's, it's, it's sad because to bring up the world we live in, everyone wants to play pickleball and tennis and basketball when the skate parks are like in the middle of bad places. That you really don't want to take your six year old after five, five o'clock. So those are the places that we're hitting up and opening my eyes to this world needs to change.

• 1:16:29Speaker 02

  And we'll be sitting there fucking planning shit and I'll be like, I thought the rule is no phones. Hold on, I'm saving a goat from fucking Idaho right now. I'm like, give me that. You really are doing that.

• 1:16:39Speaker 03

  Yeah, we have like a phone thing, but I'm like, hold on, I have to pledge on this elephant real quick.

• 1:16:44Bunnie XO?

  That is hilarious.

• 1:16:46Speaker 03

  It's true. I'm like, most of the time I'm on my phone, I'm just yelling at the mayor of LA or screaming with PETA.

• 1:16:51Bunnie XO?

  Aww.

• 1:16:52Speaker 02

  What are you doing? I'm calling 911. Why?

• 1:16:55Speaker 03

  Petaluma duck.

• 1:16:56Speaker 02

  Cause this guy got arrested for trying to save ducks. He's got a trespass charge. Yeah. What's up with that Wayne situation?

• 1:17:02Speaker 03

  Wayne and Zoe Rooster, you're gonna see. Hopefully the Today Show here soon. They're ready.

• 1:17:05Bunnie XO?

  I love that. I want to tell you guys, when Jay and I first got together, we immediately went out on tour and it's the best bonding experience for a couple. It will either make or break you.

• 1:17:15Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:17:15Bunnie XO?

  You guys are either meant to be together or not. Once you guys are in a car, fucking traveling all the time, like working together, that's when you really figure out what you guys are about and you fall in love fast because you get to know somebody so personally and so quickly.

• 1:17:28Speaker 02

  Totally. And there's a lot of things that I didn't know, you know? If we show up in Indiana and I have a bunch of friends there to do a Comic Con and we're only there for two days, like she'll be like, I know you guys got to see him and I'm sorry, but we're having fucking date night tonight because you know, I'm like, cool. You know, I've never had the courage to say that.

• 1:17:44Speaker 03

  I think it's 8pm, it's over.

• 1:17:45Speaker 02

  Everybody come along to date night.

• 1:17:47Speaker 03

  I'm like, it's 8pm, we're done. He's like, another hour, nope, I'm in bed by 10, date line's on, I need Keith Morrison.

• 1:17:53Bunnie XO?

  I think he needs you because nobody's ever really been able to not tell you no. Or like, I don't even know if the word, I think it's you guys run wild together. You just have more structured wildness.

• 1:18:06Speaker 03

  Structured wild.

• 1:18:07Speaker 02

  You know, I'm sitting in a hotel, it's 10 o'clock and it was like, you have tamed the Apollo. I'm all sitting, what does that supposed to mean? You've tamed the Apollo. What do you mean? You've got me in bed by 10, I'm very, you've tamed the Apollo.

• 1:18:20Bunnie XO?

  And then you really just go to sleep, but you don't have sleeping problems or anything?

• 1:18:23Speaker 02

  No, I was always on so much trazodone in Syracuse and I thought I needed that to sleep, but at the end of the day, I'm so exhausted from skating and going to the gym and you know, having such a fun, productive day that I sleep on time.

• 1:18:37Bunnie XO?

  Are you 100% sober?

• 1:18:39Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:18:39Bunnie XO?

  Like a raw dog in life?

• 1:18:40Speaker 02

  Just a couple puffs of weed.

• 1:18:41Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, yeah, I mean, that's sober to me. Yeah.

• 1:18:43Speaker 03

  Totally. And he has a medical card, people, relax.

• 1:18:45Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, I don't think weed, there's a, you know, there's, everybody has a different definition of sober. I'm completely straight edge.

• 1:18:50Speaker 02

  Drinking water and skateboarding is my medicine.

• 1:18:53Speaker 03

  Cause someone just told that the other day, they're like, well then you're not 100% sober. I'm like, you need to chill, like, he's fine.

• 1:18:58Bunnie XO?

  There's California sober and there's straight edge. I'm straight edge and my husband's California sober. He'll drink and he smokes weed all day. You know, so some people have to have a vice, you know? I would love to have a vice, but my anxiety, the way it's set up, I can't. So it's like, I have to just.

• 1:19:11Speaker 02

  Skateboarding and pussy meat, my life.

• 1:19:12Speaker 03

  See weed for me is something that just levels my brain out. So that's why I smoke.

• 1:19:16Bunnie XO?

  I'm never gonna call a vagina a vagina again. It's strictly pussy meat from now on.

• 1:19:20Speaker 03

  That's, that was the word of the month when we first started dating at the restaurants. I was like, can we not say that in the middle of 4pm? Geez.

• 1:19:29Bunnie XO?

  Aw.

• 1:19:29Speaker 03

  He'd be like, is her pussy meat on the menu? I'm like, oh my God. I'm just gonna go to the bathroom.

• 1:19:34Bunnie XO?

  Oh my God.

• 1:19:35Speaker 02

  Shock value, that's what I'm after. You know how to handle it.

• 1:19:38Bunnie XO?

  I think you guys are fucking adorable and I love seeing him so happy. Like that really makes me happy to see him just smiling.

• 1:19:45Speaker 03

  Yeah, learning like the, you guys and the fans that have loved him so much are teaching me like where he really was. I mean, I knew he had some things going on, but when, when I'm, you know, the best part about working with him and seeing, you know, helping run the show and make sure he's downstairs and the fan, you know, I say hi to them. They're so, most of the time they've been really nice to me. I know it's just the trolls. His fans that are in line are very sweet to me. They're not coming.

• 1:20:07Bunnie XO?

  Fan's iconic.

• 1:20:08Speaker 03

  They're not coming up trying to spit in my face or whatever, but you know, they're teaching me so much about him and I love all the people that are coming up and saying that you're helping them get through recovery or they're just so proud of you to be back on the skateboard. It's amazing to see the skateboarding community. They're so stoked to see him back on the skateboard.

• 1:20:23Bunnie XO?

  There's so many people rooting for you.

• 1:20:24Speaker 03

  I'm learning like what a badass skateboarder he was. I.

• 1:20:28Bunnie XO?

  You have to watch all the CKYs. You have to make her watch. Slumber one day and do that. You have to watch them because then you'll really.

• 1:20:34Speaker 02

  She seemed like bits and pieces. The last one she saw, she's like, so hold on. Ryan Dunn was drunk at the bar in Westchester.

• 1:20:41Speaker 03

  I saw that one.

• 1:20:43Speaker 02

  He's like all drunk. He's like, if we're in Iceland tomorrow, I would have gone off that water, that forty foot waterfall. I'm like, but you didn't last time because you pushed out. Yeah, but if we're there tomorrow, I would do it. I'm like, sign this right here. Next day he wakes up and I'm like, you signed the contract?

• 1:20:56Speaker 03

  That is crazy.

• 1:20:58Speaker 02

  Eight tickets to Iceland. He's like, son of a bitch. So we get there. We didn't even scope anything out. I found a random ass barrel on the side of the road, sealed it up, pushed him off head first by accident. She's like.

• 1:21:08Speaker 03

  I'm like, you did that to Ryan?

• 1:21:09Speaker 02

  I'm like, you pushed him head first. What if something bad happened? I'm like, we really didn't think about that. We're fucking punk ass kids. So you guys are fucking crazy.

• 1:21:18Bunnie XO?

  What's your relationship with Vili Valo now?

• 1:21:21Speaker 02

  It's good. We saw him, um, at his last tour in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania. We went up with Jimmy Pop from the Bloodhound Gang and, um. It was rad catching up with him, but, um.

• 1:21:31Speaker 03

  Quiet, quiet, quiet.

• 1:21:33Speaker 02

  You know, the last time. The first time he went to treatment, we were at the Chateau Marmont and we just got a deal signed for him to be on Warner. They got a really good deal and um, he was drinking a lot and he knew I had a prescription of Adderall and he kept asking me for one. And I'm like, dude, I've given you enough and he's like, I'm like, you know what? Just because it's you, I'm not gonna say no. So he like started hyperventilating and um, an ambulance came and that was the first time he went to treatment and I think Warner Brothers found out that I was the one that had my prescription that he kept asking for. Which kinda sucks because you know, I didn't drink at all. I didn't drink till I was well

• 1:22:18Speaker 02

  23 years old and all that. And, and when I was hanging out with him in Helsinki, Finland, I was so mesmerized by just how rad he was that when we stayed in the same hotel together, he opened up the minibar and cracked open a beer. I'm like, you're just drinking in the day? I thought people only do that at nighttime.

• 1:22:34Bunnie XO?

  That's crazy.

• 1:22:35Speaker 02

  He's like, I'm, I'm like, I'm not gonna let you do it alone. So that was the first time I've been introduced to like day drinking.

• 1:22:41Bunnie XO?

  That's crazy.

• 1:22:41Speaker 02

  Tables turned to where I'm the fucking bad.

• 1:22:44Bunnie XO?

  When did you start using drugs?

• 1:22:46Speaker 02

  Probably about. Tell the truth. I'd say 24 or 25.

• 1:22:52Bunnie XO?

  That's wild. I would've thought it would've been so younger.

• 1:22:55Speaker 02

  We were in Davos, Switzerland, doing this thing called the Winter Jam for MTV. Sum 41 was playing and this band called Guano Apes and Jackass was there to host the whole thing. And I remember we were staying at this nice hotel in the Alps and somebody like started putting these lines out on the table and that was the first time I tried it. And I had a massage booked right, right after that. I'm like.

• 1:23:17Bunnie XO?

  Oh, God.

• 1:23:18Speaker 02

  I got a massage. Alright, if everybody else is doing it, I'll do it. And I did it. I was getting a massage like, I'm gonna be fucking done. I can't even relax.

• 1:23:26Bunnie XO?

  God, I couldn't imagine my first fucking bump of coke and I'm getting massaged. I would go crazy. There's no way.

• 1:23:33Speaker 02

  But never, always terrified of a needle, never messed with heroin or anything.

• 1:23:37Speaker 03

  I was surprised to hear that.

• 1:23:38Bunnie XO?

  What's the hardest drugs you've done?

• 1:23:40Speaker 02

  Probably just meth and coke, anything upper.

• 1:23:42Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:23:43Speaker 02

  You know, like I

• 1:23:44Bunnie XO?

  Shocking.

• 1:23:44Speaker 02

  I don't know why people would do heroin or Valium and show up to a bar and fall asleep into their beer. It makes no sense.

• 1:23:50Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, I used to be one of those. I loved Xanax.

• 1:23:52Speaker 02

  The dope fiend lean.

• 1:23:52Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, Xanax was my shit.

• 1:23:54Speaker 03

  Yeah, I was an upper person.

• 1:23:55Bunnie XO?

  Anna Nicole, I used to call myself Xanac.

• 1:23:57Speaker 02

  Like, I would only take that if I was on like an airplane.

• 1:23:59Speaker 03

  At least you owned it.

• 1:24:00Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:24:00Speaker 02

  But man, you have one beer on a Xanax, you're fucking laryngitis.

• 1:24:04Bunnie XO?

  Lit, just lit. It's a party.

• 1:24:06Speaker 03

  There's the closet problems.

• 1:24:09Bunnie XO?

  I appreciate you guys coming on the podcast and I look forward to seeing you guys just blossom. And I really feel like this is a new friendship for all of us too. Because my husband loves you and I love you, so yeah.

• 1:24:20Speaker 03

  I already told Jen and Jesse.

• 1:24:22Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:24:23Speaker 03

  We need to, us three can be on the bus and you guys can get your own bus.

• 1:24:27Bunnie XO?

  Are you guys gonna come see us on tour?

• 1:24:28Speaker 03

  We are. San Antonio.

• 1:24:30Bunnie XO?

  Yay. Yeah, come to a show. We always have so much fun and it's, I have, the girls have their own bus, the boys have their own bus. And I know all the, the band would love to see you guys.

• 1:24:38Speaker 03

  And I'll steal Melissa. I want to let them know Melissa Quinn, Michael Quinn, um, they're, they love you. So the boys will be together, we'll steal her. Melissa actually manifested this. I love her. She's been saying that you and I would get along great. And that was literally two days later. I had your phone number. I'm like, this is crazy.

• 1:24:55Bunnie XO?

  Ah, I love it. I'm so happy that we were able to work this out.

• 1:24:58Speaker 02

  Oh, Jenna Jameson?

• 1:24:59Speaker 03

  No, well, hopefully Jenna can come, but Melissa and Michael will go meet her then.

• 1:25:04Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. Well, thank you guys for coming. What, you got, you want to shout out your socials? So everybody, I'm sure everybody knows where to find you.

• 1:25:09Speaker 03

  Oh, they know me, Dan Marie Official. They are there.

• 1:25:11Speaker 02

  Captain Creamstain or Captain Creme Blay or something. I don't know.

• 1:25:15Speaker 03

  Just save a dog.

• 1:25:17Bunnie XO?

  Just Google Bam Margera, you guys will find everything.

• 1:25:19Speaker 03

  I think maybe the fans are realizing, like, they wanted to see me, uh, every now and then, but I'm just gonna blast them with shelter dogs. So please adopt.

• 1:25:26Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, I watched your story the other day and it was all dogs. I was like, I love this girl.

• 1:25:29Speaker 03

  I go through my moments where I'm like, shh, shh, shh.

• 1:25:32Bunnie XO?

  Then I'm like, calm down.

• 1:25:34Speaker 02

  Everybody wants to give shout outs and plugs, everything. I give a plug to curiosity donuts from fucking Doylestown. They're awesome.

• 1:25:41Bunnie XO?

  Ah, I love that.

• 1:25:43Speaker 02

  They only open on Wednesdays because they make them so fresh.

• 1:25:45Bunnie XO?

  Oh, my God. We'll have to try it on tour. We'll go on tour. We'll literally say Bam recommended this and do a whole TikTok on it. It'll be awesome.

• 1:25:53Speaker 02

  Black Rifle Coffee, rock and roll.

• 1:25:54Bunnie XO?

  Thank you guys so much for coming.

• 1:25:56Speaker 03

  You're stuck with us.

• 1:25:57Bunnie XO?

  I appreciate you.

• 1:25:58Speaker 03

  Me too.

• 1:25:59Bunnie XO?

  Thank you, guys, for tuning into another episode of Done Blonde. I'll see you guys next week. Bye.