Giggling with Brenda Song, Kate Hudson, and Mindy Kaling

We had the honor of interviewing Brenda Song, Kate Hudson, and Mindy Kaling. We discuss revenge, how to thrive in male dominated spaces, and what it's like to create and act in a tv show.

Speaker names marked ? are inferred from speaking time and the show’s known hosts — they are not voice-verified.

• 0:00Paige DeSorbo?

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• 0:51Hannah Berner?

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• 1:35Hannah Berner?

  I was thinking about how women have so many little things we have to do when we're getting home that you have to be aware of.

• 1:41Paige DeSorbo?

  Like so many people have my location.

• 1:43Hannah Berner?

  And you have to share your ETA, you have to check the route, you have to text everyone I'm home.

• 1:47Paige DeSorbo?

  And if your friend like doesn't text you, "Oh, you got home," you're calling the FBI.

• 1:52Hannah Berner?

  Yep. Yep. And we joke about it because it's so normal to us, but you're constantly paying attention. And even when you're exhausted and just want to get home, your brain still has to be on. You're like, is this guy going the right route? Am I in the right place? Who's around me? What's happening?

• 2:06Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, there's truly no clocking out of your safety.

• 2:09Hannah Berner?

  And that's why riding in a Waymo feels different. It's an autonomous ride with an empty driver's seat. So once you get in, you have this private space that's actually just yours.

• 2:17Paige DeSorbo?

  And you know, I love alone time, and I truly feel like it's such a luxury in a Waymo.

• 2:21Hannah Berner?

  Especially after being social. Like, I love everyone, but like...

• 2:24Paige DeSorbo?

  Please, nobody speak to me.

• 2:26Hannah Berner?

  Like, give me 20 minutes. I want music, the right temperature. There's no compromising, and you can customize the ride, put on your own music, answer texts. You ignored all night, stare out the window. You actually have a minute where you're not thinking about everyone else.

• 2:39Paige DeSorbo?

  And that's the thing. It's not even necessarily about doing something. Sometimes it's just, you want to sit there and not speak.

• 2:46Hannah Berner?

  And put your guard down for a second and feel safe.

• 2:49Paige DeSorbo?

  Which truly, women deserve.

• 2:51Hannah Berner?

  We deserve to disassociate safely for 20 minutes.

• 2:54Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I mean, put that on a t-shirt, for real.

• 2:57Hannah Berner?

  And obviously, safety is a huge part of why that feeling matters. Knowing Waymo's safer, there's something refreshing in having that space where you can just be yourself and let Waymo handle the driving.

• 3:06Paige DeSorbo?

  And we spend enough of our lives being on.

• 3:09Hannah Berner?

  Exactly.

• 3:10Paige DeSorbo?

  We don't need to be on in the car.

• 3:12Hannah Berner?

  Getting around shouldn't require so much mental energy. And if this sounds like your ideal way to get around too, download the Waymo app and use code GIGLY to get 20% off your next two rides. You can check out the full terms in the app.

• 3:25Paige DeSorbo?

  We love a discount.

• 3:26Hannah Berner?

  And if Waymo isn't in your city yet, head to waymo.com/gigly to sign up and help bring Waymo to you.

• 3:33Speaker 02

  Sup, gigglers. Jerry, fix your wifi. Manifest that shit. We can't be managed.

• 3:43Speaker 02

  I mean, the day just got away from me.

• 3:47Hannah Berner?

  Hello, my giggly, piggly, wigglies. I'm currently in Vegas, about to present at the AMA Awards with the queen, Lisa Rinna. I've never met her before. I know her daughter, but I've never met the queen. So hopefully, I don't say anything weird or awkward, but we'll let you know next episode how that goes. We have a very special episode for you today. It took a lot of back and forth to get permission to post this, but we were able to get the footage from our interview with Kate Hudson, Mindy Kaling, and Brenda Song from our live show that we did. Now, this is not a normal Giggly Squad live show. We didn't have guys on stage calling them trash.

• 4:30Hannah Berner?

  This was an interview we did at the Netflix Is A Joke Festival, and we're just so happy that we can share it with everyone who wasn't able to make it that day. So I'm gonna shut up and let you guys enjoy the live show.

• 4:46Hannah Berner?

  Hollywood! Wait, guys, I forgot I love- She loves Tor.

• 4:52Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm too beta blockers deep, so let's fucking do this.

• 4:58Hannah Berner?

  She could bash her head through a wall. What is up, LA?

• 5:05Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, before we bring out our amazing guest, I just have to tell a really quick Hannah story, because she's been torturing me all day.

• 5:13Hannah Berner?

  I thought you were gonna say year.

• 5:14Paige DeSorbo?

  I was. I honestly was. Okay, so Monday, we're at my apartment, right? We're getting our nails done. We're having like a very cute best friend day. I say, Hannah, what are you wearing Friday night to do our interview? She was like, oh, I want a dress like really cool. I just want to wear capris and like a windbreaker. And I was like, great. Where did you order the windbreaker from? And she said Fashion Nova. No shade, no hate.

• 5:38Hannah Berner?

  No shade, no tea.

• 5:39Paige DeSorbo?

  I said Kate Hudson's gonna be on the fucking stage. I need you to lock eyes and get it together. I'm a good friend. I go upstairs, I get my YSL windbreaker.

• 5:50Hannah Berner?

  You fully devil wears Prada, didn't it?

• 5:52Paige DeSorbo?

  I say you can wear that Saturday night. A couple days goes by, we're in the airport, we're on our way to LA. We had something in the morning. I said, Hannah, what are you wearing to brunch tomorrow morning? She goes, a YSL windbreaker. She also has to record a podcast. I go, what are you wearing to the podcast? She goes, a YSL windbreaker. She's been wearing the same fucking outfit all day. I literally want to kill myself.

• 6:19Paige DeSorbo?

  She looks stunning. She looks gorgeous. I said sweaty magoo, if you sweat in my YSL windbreaker, I will kill you.

• 6:26Hannah Berner?

  No, but I was like, I'm getting my money's worth. And she's like, I paid for it. No, I'm gonna sleep in this. I'm not taking it off. You're never lending me anything again. You're never doing it. Um, you guys, also, we've never done a show like this before. It's gonna give Barbara Walters realness.

• 6:44Hannah Berner?

  What man just woke up?

• 6:47Paige DeSorbo?

  Is your handler with you?

• 6:49Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 6:52Hannah Berner?

  I love the Wiltern, it's so cute. It's so like, I was gonna say cute, that's not the right word.

• 6:57Paige DeSorbo?

  Sophisticated.

• 6:57Hannah Berner?

  Sophisticated. So we have three superstars that we're interviewing. You guys know, we don't interview. We've never, we've never asked a question and listened to the answer.

• 7:09Hannah Berner?

  This is gonna be so, so, so fun. I hope they remember that they're coming out because they probably left. They could've left. They're like, what are they talking about onstage? So, this is such an honor for us to be interviewing the women.

• 7:25Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay. PowerPoint's ready. Perfect. Downloaded. Awesome.

• 7:29Hannah Berner?

  That was Mindy Kaling being like, "I'm out."

• 7:33Paige DeSorbo?

  Prober's here.

• 7:34Hannah Berner?

  That was Mindy's super. I want you guys to put your hands together. I want you to go fucking crazy for the cast of Running Point and creator of Running Point. Give it up for Kate Hudson, Mindy Kaling, Brenda White!

• 8:09Hannah Berner?

  Like what? Like what? Anyway. Oh my gosh. Barbara Walters' realness. Here we go. I have to figure out how to sit in this dress.

• 8:19Speaker 03

  I'm just seeing your shoes for the first time. Those were incredible.

• 8:21Hannah Berner?

  Wait Paige, can you first... Those are incredible. Can you give a little review of the looks? No, I'm obsessed with everything. This skirt is so good. I don't know how to sit in that. You're perfect.

• 8:31Speaker 03

  But it's work, it's fashion.

• 8:32Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, right? You can stand the whole time if you want. I can.

• 8:37Paige DeSorbo?

  Brenda said she wore a very Giggly Squad coded outfit and I feel like she nailed it. Can I just say, we...

• 8:45Speaker 04

  Had to dress up because this fucking audience. We, I was driving in and it was just like little cliques of hot baddies.

• 8:54Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, it's the hottest girls ever.

• 8:55Speaker 04

  Night out, like Koreatown just turned into Vegas. Like, everyone looks so good.

• 9:00Paige DeSorbo?

  And they're like doctors and lawyers and like...

• 9:02Speaker 04

  And they just look like hot sluts.

• 9:05Hannah Berner?

  We're so biased, but they're hot, as smart, as funny as people in L.A. here.

• 9:09Speaker 04

  I rolled down the window and took a selfie with them.

• 9:10Hannah Berner?

  I have a couple boyfriends that slid their way in. Get out of here, right now!

• 9:18Hannah Berner?

  Sorry. We don't do that. This isn't a Giggles Squad show. This is in conversation with important people. We don't do that anymore. We're professionals. We, we've actually, this is the first day we're meeting these three, so we're a little starstruck right now. And we wanted to get to know you guys a little better with a PowerPoint.

• 9:37Speaker 04

  You weren't lying.

• 9:39Hannah Berner?

  Oh, yeah.

• 9:39Speaker 04

  She sits backstage, she's like, "We have a PowerPoint." I'm like, "Ha ha ha."

• 9:43Paige DeSorbo?

  She was like, "Let her have a PowerPoint."

• 9:46Hannah Berner?

  Well, we actually can't remember what's gonna happen if we don't have our visuals, so it's...

• 9:50Paige DeSorbo?

  We're visual learners.

• 9:51Hannah Berner?

  I'm not gonna get into how the sausage is made, but...

• 9:55Hannah Berner?

  We're gonna ask you some important questions about like the state of our nation.

• 10:04Hannah Berner?

  Okay.

• 10:12Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, so we're gonna show you different things and you're gonna say if you like it, if you don't like it, and then we'll let you know if that's Paige or Hannah-coded.

• 10:21Hannah Berner?

  This is how we're gonna really know who you are to your core.

• 10:23Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. So excited.

• 10:25Hannah Berner?

  There's no wrong answers.

• 10:27Paige DeSorbo?

  Ballet pink nails. It's kind of like you get the same nail polish every single time.

• 10:32Speaker 04

  Wow.

• 10:33Paige DeSorbo?

  Not every time, but like, it's your go-to.

• 10:36Speaker 04

  I love.

• 10:38Speaker 05

  It's easy. I do it for work.

• 10:40Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 10:41Hannah Berner?

  Some of you guys have a crazy nail?

• 10:43Speaker 05

  I love a crazy nail.

• 10:44Speaker 04

  In the aughts, I did, and then I feel like we've all been shamed into doing neutral nails.

• 10:48Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 10:49Speaker 04

  It was the Kate Middleton effect. You're not classy. I used to have like checkerboard nails when I was on the Mindy Project. And then now I know.

• 10:57Hannah Berner?

  That was like Kesha's time. Like, bring back glitter.

• 10:59Speaker 04

  Or like the French manicure where half the nail was the white part.

• 11:03Hannah Berner?

  All white.

• 11:03Speaker 04

  It's all white, and now I know that that's lame.

• 11:06Speaker 05

  I love a crazy nail.

• 11:07Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 11:08Hannah Berner?

  Okay, and we're gonna tell you guys what you are at the end.

• 11:10Speaker 04

  Yep.

• 11:11Hannah Berner?

  Paige is doing math in her head for the first time.

• 11:15Hannah Berner?

  Carry the wand. That was mean.

• 11:17Speaker 04

  That was really mean.

• 11:19Hannah Berner?

  Cottage cheese. Let's start with Mindy and go down.

• 11:24Speaker 04

  I get the hype. I know that it's good to get protein this way. I don't fuck with cottage cheese. In any form. No, and I know you can make delicious pancakes and things. Like, you can blend it up, put it in the freezer, put it in a smoothie. No, I put it in a coffee. There's girls on TikTok that like make bread out of it.

• 11:41Hannah Berner?

  Your algorithm is so different than mine.

• 11:43Speaker 04

  I've tried. I'm Asian. Lactose intolerance. I can't. I've tried.

• 11:50Hannah Berner?

  I love cottage cheese.

• 11:55Hannah Berner?

  Also, by the way, I like to stand up during the shows. Paige won't move. Paige won't move the whole time.

• 12:00Speaker 04

  Girl after my own heart.

• 12:03Hannah Berner?

  Okay.

• 12:04Speaker 04

  Chandeliers.

• 12:06Speaker 05

  Hundred thousand percent.

• 12:07Hannah Berner?

  She loves a chandelier.

• 12:08Speaker 05

  Love a good chandelier.

• 12:08Speaker 04

  Love a chandelier.

• 12:09Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 12:10Speaker 04

  It's kind of a weird question.

• 12:13Speaker 05

  Crocs. Here's the thing. I have them for gardening. My partner said he would never wear crocs, and now he wears them all the time, everywhere we go, and I regret it so much.

• 12:24Hannah Berner?

  Wait, I'm still not past the gardening part.

• 12:25Speaker 05

  Yes, I love gardening.

• 12:27Hannah Berner?

  I'm a.

• 12:27Speaker 04

  Crocs appropriate for gardening.

• 12:30Speaker 05

  And my kids love crocs, but I personally do not, will wear crocs outside the home.

• 12:36Speaker 04

  I'm sexist. I think women and children should be able to wear them, but when like.

• 12:40Speaker 05

  Save them. Save them first.

• 12:42Speaker 04

  I'm telling that. I think when Ike Barinholtz wears crocs to the writers' room.

• 12:45Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 12:46Speaker 04

  I'm like, you should care more about what I think of you sexually.

• 12:51Hannah Berner?

  No, it's because of the patriarchy.

• 12:52Speaker 05

  Wait, I need to say that to people more. Like, you should care more about what I think of you sexually.

• 12:57Speaker 04

  He, I love his wife. I love his wife, I love that, you don't, no men can wear them, I'm sorry.

• 13:03Speaker 03

  No. I think every single one of them should be melted and just put it like, something else should be created. They're the worst shoes of all time.

• 13:12Hannah Berner?

  Wait, have you ever tried it on, though?

• 13:14Speaker 03

  I'm not gonna say I haven't worn them ever.

• 13:19Speaker 03

  But I am not, I, it's a hard no for me.

• 13:21Hannah Berner?

  See, I love Crocs because they are comfy, however, if you ever walk in an airport with Crocs, you ever like?

• 13:27Speaker 03

  No.

• 13:28Hannah Berner?

  Everyone's like, no.

• 13:29Speaker 05

  I've never worn them.

• 13:30Hannah Berner?

  No, but you don't even get stuck and you could like tear an ACL.

• 13:33Speaker 05

  No, I don't go sport mode.

• 13:35Hannah Berner?

  I just got boot off.

• 13:35Speaker 03

  Why would you wear Crocs when you have Birkenstocks?

• 13:41Speaker 03

  Or Uggs?

• 13:43Hannah Berner?

  That is so LA of you. He's like, you've never heights in a Birkenstock?

• 13:49Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 13:49Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 13:50Hannah Berner?

  Now, this is not a body shame moment, this is about body positivity and finger positivity. Do you have nubs? Or do you have witch long fingers? Or do you have something in between?

• 14:03Speaker 05

  Okay, you didn't have witch. I have childlike hands. Childlike hands. I have like baby hands.

• 14:10Speaker 03

  I have baby hands, too.

• 14:12Speaker 05

  But Brenda, look at that rock.

• 14:14Speaker 03

  Wow.

• 14:15Speaker 05

  That's, that's nice.

• 14:16Hannah Berner?

  Brenda can barely hold the microphone.

• 14:19Speaker 04

  So you would classify yourself as having small, like, long fingers?

• 14:22Speaker 03

  I have, I don't know what I'm, what are these?

• 14:25Speaker 05

  You have nice hands, though, you have long fingers.

• 14:27Speaker 03

  They're like, no.

• 14:27Speaker 05

  Yeah, look at your pinky compared to mine.

• 14:30Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 14:30Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 14:31Speaker 03

  It's so little.

• 14:32Speaker 05

  I told you.

• 14:33Speaker 03

  I have nubs.

• 14:35Speaker 04

  I, I have.

• 14:36Speaker 05

  Oh, you have very long fingers.

• 14:37Speaker 04

  I have long fingers, but I have like orangutan arms.

• 14:41Speaker 05

  Wait!

• 14:41Speaker 04

  And I'll tell you why, I did this, I did this.

• 14:43Speaker 05

  Wait, so do I!

• 14:44Speaker 04

  We did this, Kate and I did this, this thing to promote Running Point where we, the Dracula song, right? And so Kate was so cool and she walked into frame and she did the first line and I came in, my arms were singing, and I was like, my arms look so goddamn long. And then like, immediately I read the comments where they're like, why are her arms so long? My knuckles were like dragging on the floor. And I thought, I thought I looked really cool, but.

• 15:07Hannah Berner?

  But Mindy, you could dunk a basketball.

• 15:09Speaker 04

  Thank, yes, okay, that's it.

• 15:11Hannah Berner?

  No one believed me, okay. Have you guys ever played fantasy football?

• 15:16Speaker 05

  I'm not allowed.

• 15:17Hannah Berner?

  Oh, you get too competitive?

• 15:18Speaker 05

  I'm not allowed. You've been banned?

• 15:20Hannah Berner?

  Have you been banned? Me too.

• 15:23Speaker 05

  Not allowed.

• 15:24Hannah Berner?

  Who is... what? Okay. That's... it's like a doorbell.

• 15:28Speaker 05

  I think it's your email.

• 15:29Hannah Berner?

  I think it's... it's me. I'm like a boomer with a phone and I don't know what's going on. So you were banned because what did you do, Brenda?

• 15:37Speaker 05

  I already care too much about football and so I can't have added stakes. I have children, I have a life. It runs my whole life. It's like I will be just stat writing all day. We already have a rolling TV just for sports. It's a problem. I'm not allowed.

• 15:53Hannah Berner?

  A rolling TV?

• 15:54Speaker 05

  We have a... we have a rolling monitor just for sports.

• 15:58Hannah Berner?

  Women in STEM.

• 16:02Speaker 05

  Wait, like in your house? And you roll it around to different rooms? Well, because also like when our kids... So we try to limit screens with our kids. So if they want to watch something, they have to share the big TV. And if they're sharing the big TV and a game is on, Mom and Papa roll up their TV and the kids know that that TV is just for sports. Oh my gosh! And on Sundays, we watch the local game and then we have our Sunday ticket on the rolling TV. You run a tight ship. I like that. Yes, we do.

• 16:29Hannah Berner?

  Do you fantasy football?

• 16:31Speaker 04

  I... no.

• 16:33Hannah Berner?

  She's like, "How dare you ask me that question."

• 16:36Speaker 05

  I... You seem so offended.

• 16:37Speaker 04

  No, I just... I don't have... I have no interest and I... I don't know. What about you?

• 16:43Speaker 03

  I have, yeah. I have, but I get bored like halfway through the season. I'm like, "I don't want to watch all the games."

• 16:49Speaker 05

  Oh!

• 16:49Speaker 03

  Yeah. Well, no, I like my teams and then I'm like, "Oh, God, did so-and-so make..."

• 16:54Speaker 05

  I hate watch games. I love it.

• 16:57Hannah Berner?

  Do you have any picking strategy in the draft?

• 16:59Speaker 03

  No, no.

• 17:00Hannah Berner?

  You pick the tall ones?

• 17:01Speaker 05

  The cute ones.

• 17:03Hannah Berner?

  I'm not gonna watch ugly men play every week. It's... I feel like I'm The Bachelorette. I'm like, "You, you, you, and you."

• 17:11Speaker 03

  But I did just start wanting to get into betting on... on golf.

• 17:17Speaker 04

  Do you play?

• 17:19Speaker 03

  Because I play and I'm getting kind of obsessed with it. And I really want to be able, yeah, because I'm playing. And I really want to be able to, like, you know, really understand golf. And the way you do that is you start betting on it.

• 17:33Hannah Berner?

  I put on the golf channel when I need to hit REM sleep. Because they have such a calm whisper, you know?

• 17:41Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's like a warm, it's like a heavy blanket.

• 17:44Hannah Berner?

  Well, we've spoken about sports betting and how men are putting their homes up for sale to like see if a broad is gonna win a game or something. So we just wanted to raise awareness.

• 17:54Hannah Berner?

  Oh!

• 17:58Speaker 03

  That's great.

• 17:59Hannah Berner?

  This is a very inappropriate photo. I don't know how it got in there.

• 18:03Speaker 04

  Hannah put this in. And she was in Sports Illustrated recently, and so we just wanted to like bring awareness.

• 18:11Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 18:15Hannah Berner?

  Now I'm embarrassed. At first I thought it was funny, now I'm embarrassed. But I get ashamed because I have a really long torso. And Paige is all legs, no torso. How's your guys' torsos?

• 18:28Speaker 04

  Zero torso.

• 18:29Hannah Berner?

  Zero torso, you're a page.

• 18:30Speaker 04

  Everything has to be like hemmed in my, it goes nipples, belly button.

• 18:36Hannah Berner?

  Your nipple hits your hip.

• 18:38Speaker 04

  I just need to say Mindy has been so page coded this whole time.

• 18:43Hannah Berner?

  I know, I'm getting jealous.

• 18:44Speaker 04

  I'm a little page coded.

• 18:46Speaker 05

  I'm long waisted, short legged. It's, I'm the exact opposite. It's literally waist feet.

• 18:52Speaker 03

  You look tall in a zoo.

• 18:54Speaker 05

  Yeah, so, I'm taller than Kate right now, but if we stand, I'm as tall as Kate right now. But if we stand up, I'm like two feet shorter.

• 19:02Hannah Berner?

  When you sit, you get tall.

• 19:03Speaker 05

  I'm so tall right now. We should do the whole, see, we should do the whole season just sitting down. I'm your height. Because I have to wear like these gigantic shoes.

• 19:13Speaker 03

  Apple boxes.

• 19:13Speaker 05

  I'm like on apple boxes all the time and in gigantic shoes. And I'm still not a soul.

• 19:17Speaker 03

  I'm also long torsed.

• 19:18Speaker 05

  But you also have long legs.

• 19:20Hannah Berner?

  Oh, so you're, you're broke.

• 19:22Speaker 04

  You're just a model. Like I guess my proportions are perfect.

• 19:25Hannah Berner?

  She's like, sorry, I don't understand this imperfection of body ratio.

• 19:29Speaker 04

  I guess I'm the platonic ideal to the woman.

• 19:35Speaker 04

  I don't know.

• 19:35Hannah Berner?

  She was trying not to answer. She's like, someone else can go.

• 19:38Speaker 04

  I don't know. Matthew McConaughey says I have the perfect figure.

• 19:44Speaker 04

  It's whatever. Can we, can we just say, we didn't get to say this, we are so honored to be here.

• 19:51Hannah Berner?

  Yes.

• 19:51Speaker 05

  Oh my god.

• 19:52Speaker 04

  Guys, thank you for having us.

• 19:53Hannah Berner?

  This is so fun.

• 19:56Hannah Berner?

  We are such huge fans of each and every one of you in so many ways. Ooh, everyone got serious. That got me nervous.

• 20:04Speaker 04

  You're like, London, Tidgen is here.

• 20:06Hannah Berner?

  I know.

• 20:06Speaker 04

  Hello?

• 20:07Hannah Berner?

  London's here.

• 20:09Hannah Berner?

  But yeah, you guys, this is such an honor and for the gigglers to come and support all this. It's just everything. Thank you.

• 20:17Hannah Berner?

  Giggle, the best word ever.

• 20:19Speaker 05

  No, it literally is.

• 20:20Hannah Berner?

  It literally is.

• 20:20Speaker 04

  Okay, this one is when you're on FaceTime with your friend and something happens, call drops. Are you calling them back or you've missed, the moment's over, you'll get them next time?

• 20:31Hannah Berner?

  Yeah. You know when you're like, the universe doesn't want this anymore?

• 20:34Speaker 04

  An unnecessary wrap it up is to not, yeah. We ain't got the time for that. It ended, it was God's way of saying.

• 20:41Hannah Berner?

  You're busy.

• 20:42Speaker 04

  You're done. Onto the next thing.

• 20:43Hannah Berner?

  She's so page-cutter.

• 20:44Speaker 04

  I did. Crazy. Oh, I'm the opposite. I'm like, oh my god, I'm so sorry, something happened. Oh my god. But I'm just calling to say goodbye.

• 20:51Hannah Berner?

  That was my fault.

• 20:51Speaker 04

  Something happened, it was calling my service, I'm just calling to say goodbye, love you. That's me.

• 20:56Speaker 05

  That is really nice.

• 21:00Hannah Berner?

  I'm with Mindy. I'm out. I'm like, oh.

• 21:03Speaker 04

  I know. I know.

• 21:05Hannah Berner?

  I'll be telling Kate.

• 21:07Speaker 05

  There are times I'm talking, I'm like, oh, Kate's gone.

• 21:11Hannah Berner?

  Forever.

• 21:12Speaker 05

  And I hold her back and it's like, call's denied. I'm like, oh, okay, I guess we're done.

• 21:17Speaker 04

  You could, you could, you know, what you could do is send the text, hey, I think the call dropped, we're good. Right? Yeah, like, just to make sure they're not mad at you.

• 21:27Hannah Berner?

  We're done here. No, I'll be in the most vulnerable mid-sentence, like, and then, when my parents, and then it cuts off and Paige never to be heard of again. I'm like.

• 21:35Speaker 04

  We'll pick this back up next week.

• 21:36Hannah Berner?

  Leave me for dead.

• 21:38Speaker 04

  Cats.

• 21:40Hannah Berner?

  Let me say, this is controversial. Think before you speak. I don't like Kate's face right now.

• 21:45Speaker 04

  Well, direct him, is it like?

• 21:46Speaker 03

  Cats or dogs?

• 21:48Speaker 05

  No, it's just cats.

• 21:50Speaker 03

  Oh, I will snuggle any animal. I love cats.

• 21:57Speaker 05

  I love cats. I never had a cat until I started dating Mac. He's like a Manhattanite, so I always had dogs. But now we have three cats. I love all, I love all animals, though. So we have so many animals.

• 22:10Speaker 04

  I am not an animal person.

• 22:12Hannah Berner?

  I just want to say.

• 22:13Speaker 05

  No, this is my long lost sister.

• 22:15Hannah Berner?

  This is so page. But also, I just want to say, dogs are the patriarchy. Continue.

• 22:19Speaker 04

  I think, and this is bad, this is bad. People love, people love animals living in their home.

• 22:26Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 22:28Speaker 04

  Rubbing their genitalia on their pillows that they go to sleep on.

• 22:33Speaker 04

  Licking their faces. They love this. I don't know if this is like an Indian thing, but I think like germize. It's not, I love a cat attitude, you know, I love.

• 22:43Speaker 05

  Honestly?

• 22:44Speaker 04

  There's a lot to learn from cats about, you know, don't give too much, you know, just I, but I, um, I'm not like an animal in the house person. I want only human germs in my house.

• 22:54Hannah Berner?

  That's Butter and Daphne. They're huge fans of all of you.

• 22:58Paige DeSorbo?

  Unfortunately, they do sleep in our beds, though.

• 23:01Hannah Berner?

  Also Butter has like, it looks like Cindy Crawford. She has a little birthmark, but no one talks about it. Everyone's just like, Daphne's so pretty. And I'm like, Butter's literally Cindy Crawford.

• 23:09Speaker 03

  Is it Butter? Butter, the name's Butter? Oh, my God.

• 23:12Hannah Berner?

  I'm really into food names. And she likes British names.

• 23:15Speaker 03

  Okay, well, I had two cats named Mac and Cheese. I had two.

• 23:19Speaker 05

  So you do love cats?

• 23:20Speaker 03

  I had two, yeah, they were Persian cats. They were Mac and Cheese. They were so cute.

• 23:26Hannah Berner?

  And I thought you were gonna talk shit about cats. I have to formally apologize to you because I was ahead of my time. Oh, voice notes.

• 23:36Speaker 05

  Sometimes you don't want it in writing, you know?

• 23:40Paige DeSorbo?

  You're like, if I ever get subpoenaed, it's gonna be bad.

• 23:43Speaker 03

  If someone saves a voice note, it sends shivers down my spine. When someone saves a rant that you went on, you're like, why did you save that?

• 23:51Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, for evidence.

• 23:53Speaker 03

  Yeah, love a voice note.

• 23:55Hannah Berner?

  Yes.

• 23:55Speaker 03

  Love a voice note.

• 23:56Hannah Berner?

  Especially because we're busy, we're walking around, we're like, I got a call.

• 23:59Speaker 05

  I've learned to love it. It used to give me anxiety when I saw someone, I would just read the voice note like a crazy person and not listen to it. I'm like, oh my god. But now, I understand and I'm here for it. Except when Scotty MacArthur sends voice notes because they're 30 minutes long.

• 24:13Hannah Berner?

  Call them out by name, call them out.

• 24:15Speaker 05

  Scotty, he plays Ness. He literally sends the longest voice notes about nothing.

• 24:20Speaker 03

  And you get to like a minute, you get to like a minute 10 and you're like, I'm out.

• 24:24Paige DeSorbo?

  You know, you can speed them up now.

• 24:26Speaker 03

  Well, I say if I look at a voice note and there's a two, is it like anything over two minutes, I'm not listening to it. I kind of read it, I kind of like go to the thing, I read it and then I'm out.

• 24:39Speaker 05

  Doesn't Scotty like play music? He'll be like, I got this song I want you guys to hear. Like he'll play a long song for you guys. That's crazy.

• 24:46Hannah Berner?

  Does he have anyone in his life who could be honest with him?

• 24:50Speaker 03

  No, that's the problem. Everybody is.

• 24:51Speaker 05

  Everyone is honest with him.

• 24:53Speaker 03

  Literally, everybody has told him.

• 24:56Hannah Berner?

  I'm so sorry that a man's doing that to you guys.

• 25:01Paige DeSorbo?

  Bed rotting.

• 25:04Hannah Berner?

  Huge fans.

• 25:05Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, huge fans. This is just staying in bed all day.

• 25:10Hannah Berner?

  Kate, do you wake up early?

• 25:12Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 25:13Hannah Berner?

  You're fucking running or something. You're like...

• 25:15Speaker 03

  Yeah, but I'm also, I also, I can get into bed and I can get into bed for a long time. But I wouldn't say it's rotting.

• 25:24Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, rotting's a bad word.

• 25:26Speaker 03

  I get it, but yeah.

• 25:28Hannah Berner?

  The kids are saying it.

• 25:29Speaker 03

  I love being in bed. I love being in bed.

• 25:31Hannah Berner?

  Like, do you guys ever work horizontal? Like, do emails in bed?

• 25:34Speaker 05

  And like Zooms? I do my emails at night and then I schedule them to be sent out in the morning.

• 25:39Speaker 03

  Yeah, I raise my kids from bed.

• 25:44Hannah Berner?

  She goes, "I have full fights with my whole family from the bed."

• 25:48Speaker 04

  I have three kids under the age of eight. So like bed rot, it would be my dream to do it. So the, I was on bed rest for my last baby, who's two. And the last six weeks, I was confined to bed.

• 26:01Hannah Berner?

  We're so jealous.

• 26:02Speaker 04

  I, it was heaven to just lay in bed, take all my zooms.

• 26:07Hannah Berner?

  And it's clinical.

• 26:08Speaker 04

  And it was like, I have a medical condition.

• 26:10Speaker 05

  Even doctors know.

• 26:12Speaker 04

  I have to look bad, like zooming with Bella Bedaria from bed, wearing my sweatpants, and she just has to deal with it. It's the best. Yeah, it's the best.

• 26:20Hannah Berner?

  We need to get a medical note.

• 26:22Speaker 04

  No, I really do.

• 26:24Hannah Berner?

  Last one.

• 26:24Speaker 04

  Last one is...

• 26:25Hannah Berner?

  How do you guys feel about revenge?

• 26:28Speaker 05

  I'm not a revenge. I'm a petty bitch.

• 26:30Hannah Berner?

  I'm a petty bitch.

• 26:34Speaker 04

  Do you believe the best revenge is living well? Or do you believe the best revenge is literal revenge?

• 26:38Hannah Berner?

  Great question.

• 26:39Speaker 05

  No, I think it's living well, but also if there's a chance to be petty, you know I'll do it.

• 26:45Speaker 04

  Revenge, sometimes like you don't have to do it, the universe does it for you.

• 26:48Speaker 05

  Because I'm a big believer in that too.

• 26:49Speaker 04

  And that I love.

• 26:52Speaker 03

  I'm gonna be so cheesy.

• 26:53Hannah Berner?

  Please.

• 26:54Speaker 03

  I believe that forgiveness is the only way to peace.

• 26:59Speaker 04

  Aww.

• 27:01Hannah Berner?

  How dare you, Boukate Hudson!

• 27:03Speaker 04

  And no, guys, she actually means it, she's...

• 27:05Speaker 03

  Can you believe that?

• 27:06Hannah Berner?

  We know, but that is beautiful, because when you're angry and you wish bad upon people, it comes around back to you sometime.

• 27:13Speaker 03

  You're so fucked if revenge is your way.

• 27:17Speaker 04

  You just want to be friends with Kate Hudson, you're not being yourself.

• 27:22Hannah Berner?

  I go, Kate, you're so fucking right. I've been saying that this whole time. But like, you did work on yourself to get there.

• 27:32Speaker 04

  She has time. She literally called me two weeks ago at 11:00 PM and was like, "And then I think this will happen."

• 27:39Hannah Berner?

  Well, yeah, I have an SCW, which really excited me.

• 27:43Speaker 04

  Oh, okay, before we go, we'll say what we think on...

• 27:47Hannah Berner?

  Oh, okay. Let's decide. I mean, Mindy...

• 27:51Speaker 04

  Is Paige coded? This is easy.

• 27:53Hannah Berner?

  100% Paige coded.

• 27:54Speaker 04

  I'm honored. Honored. I think Brenda is smack dab in the middle.

• 27:59Hannah Berner?

  She's Hannah Sun, Paige Moon.

• 28:02Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 28:05Speaker 04

  And Kate is all...

• 28:05Speaker 05

  Hannah.

• 28:09Speaker 04

  This is good representation.

• 28:10Hannah Berner?

  Kate is like, she holds herself a little with more like.

• 28:13Speaker 04

  She has more class, yeah. For sure.

• 28:17Hannah Berner?

  There's like a regalness that I'll never have, but.

• 28:21Speaker 04

  Like Kate's never like shit in the middle of the street.

• 28:23Hannah Berner?

  Okay. That was a bridesmaid scene, like I never did that.

• 28:27Speaker 04

  I'm like, well.

• 28:31Hannah Berner?

  Look, sometimes you don't know if it's a fart or not, okay.

• 28:33Speaker 05

  Never over trust a fart.

• 28:36Hannah Berner?

  See, that's her Hannah coming out. Oh wait, which brings us to a perfect segue. We just want to get to know you guys a little more about your sense of humor. And you all are so iconic in the comedy space, like, um, I don't mean, there's no words to it. So we just want to know, this is too late because we've been trying to make you laugh, so we should have done this in the beginning. But we just want to know your sense of humor real quick.

• 28:58Speaker 04

  People falling.

• 28:59Speaker 05

  Yes, a thousand percent, yes.

• 29:01Hannah Berner?

  Does that get a laugh from you guys?

• 29:02Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 29:03Speaker 03

  I'm the awful friend.

• 29:05Hannah Berner?

  Your point is?

• 29:06Speaker 03

  You could be bleeding and I'd be like, that's hilarious.

• 29:10Hannah Berner?

  You're like, here's your toothy dummy.

• 29:12Speaker 03

  You're gonna be fine.

• 29:13Speaker 04

  A cousin of this is when Kate walks into a wall, which is like every episode of the show.

• 29:18Hannah Berner?

  Oh, yeah.

• 29:19Speaker 04

  So falling, falling out of frame, I think is my, is even, is the best version of falling, I think.

• 29:25Speaker 05

  Kate was talking about real life, like when I trip and fall, she's like, you'll be fine, it's hilarious.

• 29:30Hannah Berner?

  Where she's a director, she's like out of frame, perfect, fall into the mattress. Fart jokes. Like Mindy, when you see a script, how often are you like, okay?

• 29:38Speaker 04

  I'm not highbrow, okay, I'm not, but I, I think I like, you know, I, again, three children under eight, they think it's hilarious.

• 29:45Hannah Berner?

  When you call them a poopy head.

• 29:47Speaker 04

  And they're constantly doing it, so I think I've just had a lot of, like, toots, we call them at our house. A lot of like toot comedy in my home. We have like three books with toot in the title.

• 29:57Hannah Berner?

  You're so regal. She's so young.

• 30:00Speaker 05

  I am obsessed.

• 30:01Hannah Berner?

  She's like, we call it tooting, my mom.

• 30:02Speaker 05

  I'm like, I love that.

• 30:04Speaker 04

  Because it's like, because they have like-

• 30:05Hannah Berner?

  It's so cute.

• 30:06Speaker 04

  They have Asian grandparents, you know, like, we're not gonna say fart. But so I am, to me, I'm not as into it, I think.

• 30:11Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 30:12Speaker 05

  I think, same, I think I'm so desensitized because of my kids. They think it's so funny and I'm like, I'm tired of it.

• 30:19Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, you're like, get a new bit.

• 30:21Speaker 05

  Stop.

• 30:22Hannah Berner?

  We've seen this one.

• 30:23Speaker 05

  Well, my kids are also trying to fart on me now. They think it's so funny when they fart on me.

• 30:27Hannah Berner?

  Oh, no.

• 30:27Speaker 05

  And I'm like, it's never gonna be funny.

• 30:29Hannah Berner?

  No, no.

• 30:31Speaker 03

  And I have a thousand brothers, which basically means I spent my entire life with them farting, thinking it was funny.

• 30:38Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 30:39Speaker 03

  And, and it's disgusting. And, and, but, but, every once in a while, a perfect fart joke is really fucking funny.

• 30:51Speaker 05

  The timing.

• 30:51Speaker 03

  Like, if it's ju- if it's perfect, it's, you can't not laugh, you know?

• 30:57Speaker 04

  Hannah loves a fart joke.

• 31:01Speaker 03

  My brother has an insane sphincter muscle. And his-

• 31:07Speaker 05

  Oliver, why?

• 31:08Speaker 03

  If you listen, if you listen to our, no, I'm serious, this is real. If you listen to our podcast, you'd, you'd hear this, because it's, he do- he, he farts a lot on my podcast. But he can control it. So, he'll, he does things where he'll walk in my room and go, "Do you hear that?" And then all of a sudden, he'll fart and close the door like it's creaking.

• 31:30Speaker 05

  Oh, my god.

• 31:31Speaker 03

  And control the fart.

• 31:33Hannah Berner?

  So he's an artist.

• 31:35Speaker 03

  Has he? It's, you've never seen anything like it.

• 31:39Speaker 05

  Wait, has he seen a doctor about it? Like, is that, are they like, "You're an anomaly?" Or that's like a thing?

• 31:44Speaker 03

  It's kind of, it's kind of wild.

• 31:46Hannah Berner?

  He's a butt Beethoven. Sorry, I'll stop, I hate puns, I do hate puns.

• 31:50Speaker 05

  I bet that was good.

• 31:51Speaker 03

  Butt Beethoven's pretty great.

• 31:52Hannah Berner?

  Also, this is so random and I don't want to, like, raise awareness about a man, but I recently just started watching Nashville and I had no idea, he's in it, right?

• 31:59Speaker 03

  Yes, yes.

• 32:00Hannah Berner?

  Like, he's so good in it.

• 32:01Speaker 03

  Nashville's, how much, how much should we love that show?

• 32:04Hannah Berner?

  And I never watched it, okay, anyway, this is-

• 32:06Speaker 04

  Why are you starting Nashville? No. I'm sorry, like, didn't it come out in like 2008?

• 32:12Hannah Berner?

  I'm not allowed to go through something.

• 32:13Speaker 05

  She tried to make me start it, I was like, "Can I can't?"

• 32:16Speaker 04

  You're like, I've seen everything Hayden Panettiere will ever do. I mean, it's a great show, but it feels random. Good, good.

• 32:23Hannah Berner?

  It was like on TNT back in the day, I didn't even know how to get to TNT.

• 32:26Speaker 04

  You're like, "I'm gonna watch Royal Pains after that."

• 32:30Speaker 04

  I love it. I'm just, I'm surprised. How unbusy you are.

• 32:34Paige DeSorbo?

  We all were, yeah.

• 32:35Hannah Berner?

  She's so page, because she literally just said, "Hannah."

• 32:37Paige DeSorbo?

  She's disgusted by you.

• 32:40Paige DeSorbo?

  And that is us.

• 32:42Speaker 04

  No, I love it. Yeah, no, but you love it. That's what it is.

• 32:45Hannah Berner?

  And she's wearing a matching set.

• 32:46Paige DeSorbo?

  She's like, "This is gross, but I need more."

• 32:49Hannah Berner?

  I can't look away, but... What makes us laugh? Running Point, the reason we're here tonight.

• 32:59Hannah Berner?

  Real quick, can you just go around and tell us? I swear to God, I'll fight you.

• 33:05Speaker 04

  What are these texts?

• 33:06Paige DeSorbo?

  What is that?

• 33:07Speaker 04

  What's happening?

• 33:08Hannah Berner?

  Some, I'm like, my Tinder's going off or something. Can you guys just go around and say what you, how involved you are with Running Point? Are you in it?

• 33:18Paige DeSorbo?

  Were you there when they filmed it?

• 33:21Hannah Berner?

  How were you?

• 33:24Hannah Berner?

  We're working on our interview.

• 33:25Speaker 04

  Yeah, like I've seen Nashville, but I've never seen Running Point.

• 33:29Speaker 04

  What is Running Point?

• 33:32Speaker 04

  So it's...

• 33:33Hannah Berner?

  What is it about?

• 33:34Speaker 04

  So it's on Netflix.

• 33:35Hannah Berner?

  Yes.

• 33:37Speaker 04

  That's why we're here tonight. And we love Netflix. Thank you for having us, and thank you for coming. We love you guys.

• 33:43Hannah Berner?

  We love your work.

• 33:45Speaker 04

  I'm a co-creator with our good friends Ike Berenholz and David Stassen.

• 33:48Hannah Berner?

  Love.

• 33:49Speaker 04

  Who are, her wonderful Dave is the showrunner on the show. And Jeannie Buss, the wonderful Jeannie Buss, who is the president of the Lakers several years ago, approached me and said, "I'd love to do a show about what it's like to run the Lakers." There had been so many shows written about the Lakers, but never that mentioned her as anything but a side character in it, which is, again, typical of living in the patriarchy. I won't bore us with all this now. But she really wanted to do that. We developed the show. Kate wanted to be in it, which was, I mean, took it to the absolute next level. And because Kate was involved, we got these incredible other cast members.

• 34:30Speaker 04

  And that's, but it started like pre-pandemic, we were thinking about this. I had one child before this.

• 34:37Paige DeSorbo?

  At any point where you're like, "Shoot, I don't..." No basketball, or like.

• 34:42Speaker 04

  I happen to, and as you know, don't know anything, I'm very indifferent to most sports. Randomly, growing up, my dad was a huge Celtics fan and grew up in Boston.

• 34:52Paige DeSorbo?

  Sorry.

• 34:53Speaker 04

  I know, this is the reaction. What's the score of the game right now?

• 34:57Hannah Berner?

  Larry Bird, look at you! My dad loves Larry Bird.

• 34:59Speaker 04

  Larry Bird, so.

• 35:00Hannah Berner?

  See, we're connecting.

• 35:01Speaker 04

  We're connecting. Larry Bird, and so he, um, we, we, he grew up loving basketball. I think basketball is the best sport in the world, the most athleticism, the most entertaining. And the Lakers, I mean, love the Celtics, but it's like showbiz for a reason. Like Showtime, love it. And so, um, yeah, that's how, how it happened. And Ike and Dave co-wrote the pilot with me and now they're, you know, showrunners and actors on the show. Ike, it was on this season, he's super funny. And yeah, that's how I'm involved in the show.

• 35:31Hannah Berner?

  She is the show.

• 35:32Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 35:33Hannah Berner?

  This is our boss. Our incredible boss. Mindy's created like 3,247 shows in the last decade. So shout out to Mindy for running the comedy industry.

• 35:43Speaker 04

  Truly.

• 35:49Speaker 03

  And for me, I, I sat with Mindy, we had a margarita and fell in love and I.

• 35:56Speaker 04

  You guys didn't know each other before?

• 35:57Speaker 03

  We didn't really, we had met once before.

• 35:59Speaker 04

  At Reese Witherspoon's Christmas party.

• 36:01Speaker 03

  We met at Reese's.

• 36:02Speaker 04

  Of course.

• 36:02Speaker 03

  At Reese's Christmas.

• 36:03Speaker 04

  I have a lot of A-list celebrity friends.

• 36:06Paige DeSorbo?

  What is Reese Witherspoon's Christmas party like? Like what does she serve food-wise?

• 36:13Speaker 04

  There was a lot of like southern food, right?

• 36:15Speaker 03

  Yeah, she's a, she's, yeah, she's a, you know, she likes her, her fried chicken.

• 36:20Speaker 04

  Oh, okay.

• 36:21Hannah Berner?

  Cramping grits.

• 36:22Speaker 03

  No, she, yeah, she, southern food and.

• 36:24Speaker 04

  A lot of singers, like you sang.

• 36:25Speaker 03

  A lot of cocktails.

• 36:27Speaker 04

  There was a part of the evening that turned into Christmas carols around a grand piano. Which for me is like fucking terrifying, my worst nightmare.

• 36:35Hannah Berner?

  For me is like my favorite part of the night.

• 36:37Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 36:38Hannah Berner?

  She's on the piano. Was there a fountain?

• 36:41Speaker 04

  A fountain.

• 36:42Hannah Berner?

  I feel like there'd be a fountain.

• 36:43Speaker 04

  That's where I do have a fountain.

• 36:44Paige DeSorbo?

  There was a fountain. Like in her driveway.

• 36:48Speaker 03

  Long Island medium, yeah, somewhere there was a fountain.

• 36:50Paige DeSorbo?

  That's where we we met there, but we had a fancy lunch. And you were you wanted the show to be cool. You didn't want to be involved in like a loser show.

• 36:58Speaker 03

  Yeah, basically, that's what I said to her. I'm like, is this gonna be cool or am I gonna look like a loser? No, we sat, we talked. I I I've known Jeannie Buss since I was young. Because I was I'm a big Kings fan and I used to go to. Yeah, hockey.

• 37:16Paige DeSorbo?

  Hockey Kings, not the Sacramento Kings, just to be clear.

• 37:20Speaker 03

  And and I got to meet Jeannie when I was young at the Forum Club. And and I just felt like when I when I I remember reading the log line of the show. And I was like, I'm gonna I'm gonna do this show. I just I knew it in my gut. And then when we met, I had I I have so much trust in Mindy. And we've had like the time of our lives. And then I got to meet Brenda, who's become.

• 37:46Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, so you guys met on the show too?

• 37:48Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 37:48Paige DeSorbo?

  Because your chemistry, like when you went to Toronto, I was like, sorry, what's going on? Like, I really felt like it was like a real friendship breakup. I would have thought you guys knew each other before you filmed. It's out.

• 38:01Speaker 03

  It's out.

• 38:03Hannah Berner?

  That's what we do with documentaries. We're like, don't tell them what happened to Ted Bundy.

• 38:13Paige DeSorbo?

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• 38:56Paige DeSorbo?

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• 39:39Paige DeSorbo?

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• 40:23Paige DeSorbo?

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• 41:08Paige DeSorbo?

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• 41:53Paige DeSorbo?

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• 42:37Paige DeSorbo?

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• 44:03Hannah Berner?

  I want to really quickly play a clip from this work of art.

• 44:08Speaker 05

  He was like seconds from asking me out.

• 44:10Hannah Berner?

  Was he? Sounds like you were seconds away from offering up your body. Ally, there was a pregnant pause. Now I know what that means.

• 44:18Hannah Berner?

  I think it's finally our time. Okay, that's a very judgy "hmm."

• 44:23Speaker 05

  You just got out of an eight-year relationship. Have some fun.

• 44:26Hannah Berner?

  I am trying to have fun, Ally. I'm trying to have fun with Jay.

• 44:29Speaker 05

  Ayla, your first post-love hookup needs to be low stakes. Someone you'll never see again. You don't like that guy when we're in Vegas. Or that guy in Cabo. Or that other guy in Cabo.

• 44:38Hannah Berner?

  Okay, I get the point. I'm a retired slut.

• 44:40Speaker 05

  And it's time for you to get back to the streets. So please don't text Jay or send him conspiracy reels on Instagram.

• 44:46Hannah Berner?

  Ally, the sinking of the Titanic was not an accident. There is proof.

• 44:51Speaker 05

  I'm leaving.

• 44:56Hannah Berner?

  I have to know, as artists, do you guys like watching yourselves?

• 45:02Paige DeSorbo?

  No, that was painful.

• 45:04Hannah Berner?

  I'm so sorry we put you through that. That was rude.

• 45:08Speaker 03

  Every time, it's always weird. It's hard. I'll never get used to it. And like hearing your own voice.

• 45:15Hannah Berner?

  They're saying you're so hot. I love how I'm like, "The Gigglers, let me translate." They said you're really hot.

• 45:21Hannah Berner?

  Also, we loved your fits. We loved your hair, like, the suits, the ties. How much, like...

• 45:30Speaker 04

  Say, do you get in your outfits? And do you get to keep anything?

• 45:34Hannah Berner?

  Some things. Some things I keep.

• 45:36Speaker 04

  You do?

• 45:37Hannah Berner?

  She looks at Mindy. Maybe. Maybe I've taken some things.

• 45:40Speaker 04

  You guys have a lot of say, right?

• 45:41Hannah Berner?

  Yeah. Oh, yeah.

• 45:43Speaker 04

  It's so wonderful, because the thing is, our showrunner, Dave Sassen, is always like, "I'm a man. I don't know. You choose." When it comes down to it. We have a lot of say, and our costume designer is incredible. So we... It's so much fun.

• 45:56Speaker 03

  Yeah. And I work with my stylist, Sophie, and she kind of helps curate everything. And it's been awesome. I love it. I love the Isla looks.

• 46:04Speaker 04

  Yeah, they look so good.

• 46:06Hannah Berner?

  Who takes the longest in glam?

• 46:09Speaker 04

  Justin Theroux.

• 46:13Speaker 04

  How long does he take? Way too long.

• 46:17Hannah Berner?

  Is it the brows? Like, what is he working on?

• 46:20Speaker 04

  Okay. In defense of Justin, right? He's a handsome guy, right? And you get to a certain age. That doesn't come easy, right? You gotta kickstart that. You know, you need to...

• 46:33Speaker 03

  Advil. A lot of massaging, a lot of ice, face ice baths. Lots of biologique. A lot of lymphatic drainage in the morning.

• 46:40Speaker 04

  He's 70. And so for him to look... No, he's a young, young man, handsome guy. He didn't look that handsome in Devil Wears Prada, though.

• 46:51Hannah Berner?

  That probably took a while in glam.

• 46:53Speaker 04

  That was the quickest in glam. That was him not in glam. Yeah, that was...

• 46:57Speaker 03

  That was him just showing up and going straight to work.

• 47:00Speaker 04

  I saw the movie, and I was like, "Where's my Adrian Grenya? Where's my man candy?" It was like the journalist friend that she had.

• 47:08Hannah Berner?

  They had like a guy with an accent. They were like, "That'll do." Sorry, this is Devil Wears Prada 2 talk.

• 47:14Speaker 03

  I'm like, "I have to see this movie."

• 47:16Speaker 04

  I haven't seen it yet.

• 47:17Hannah Berner?

  It's really... They did it justice.

• 47:19Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's very cute.

• 47:20Hannah Berner?

  Mindy, do you have any casting regrets?

• 47:26Speaker 04

  What if I was just like, yeah, I wish it was Anne Hathaway and Sandra Oh. But somehow, we made it work with these two.

• 47:37Hannah Berner?

  I think the casting is spectacular on the show. Everyone is such a great character. The chemistry is so good in the room.

• 47:44Speaker 04

  We were so lucky and it just felt like, and this is really a testament to Kate. Like, once Kate wanted to do it, it was, you know, getting Jay Ellis and all the great, Octavia Spencer, they had this prior relationship and everyone just wanted to act with the cast. It was amazing. To the point where I was like, I'm jealous. Why can't I be on the show? We feel really lucky with who is on it. I think Max Greenfield.

• 48:07Hannah Berner?

  The best.

• 48:07Speaker 04

  So funny and great. When you guys broke up this season, I was like, can I, can I step in? He's such a cutie. So, yeah, we were, we were really lucky.

• 48:18Paige DeSorbo?

  Do you have any dream characters that you would like, like to cast? Like, any actor that you're like, I really want them in it?

• 48:25Speaker 04

  Chet is, we love Chet so much. I would love Tom Hanks to be on the show in some way.

• 48:31Hannah Berner?

  If that's your long game, you're like, Chet, come on the show.

• 48:36Speaker 04

  It does, it does seem like that. No, Chet is so funny on the show and whenever we see him.

• 48:40Hannah Berner?

  Where's your dad this week at?

• 48:43Speaker 03

  Can we FaceTime him?

• 48:45Speaker 04

  Don't you feel like Tom Hanks, he's one of the funniest people alive. He's so funny on SNL. But he does these movies now, and I love them, like Greyhound and Bridge of Spies. That he does like the dad movies now and I want him to be in You've Got Men. I want him to be in something really funny. And so I'd love to have him on the show.

• 49:01Hannah Berner?

  And we also love Ray Romano.

• 49:03Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 49:03Speaker 03

  Love. He's great. I also just like crazy comedians, like Tim Robinson.

• 49:09Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 49:10Hannah Berner?

  I met him today at the brunch, sorry, name dropping.

• 49:14Speaker 03

  And I got so excited. I was like, I love you so much.

• 49:16Hannah Berner?

  I didn't say anything. I went.

• 49:18Speaker 03

  Yeah, but I, you know.

• 49:20Speaker 04

  You literally did. I watched you do that.

• 49:24Hannah Berner?

  And then I walked away because I didn't know what to say.

• 49:28Speaker 03

  You know what's great about our show is that it sort of lends itself. We've kind of opened this world up to where anything's possible. You know, anybody could come on and do something fun for like a day. And, and we have so much fun on set that that's exactly what we're doing. You know, like this year when we did the, the, the basketball game and we had my brother and Speedman. And we had so much fun when we were doing that, you know? So, it's great. Well, I'm sure we'll have a lot of people.

• 49:58Speaker 04

  We also, like, and this is getting increasingly rare, we get to shoot in LA, which is so, it's such a huge part of the show. We just, like, if we can, you know, I, I just think getting actors to come here, we feel so proud to be able to shoot here. Our crew is incredible and, um, yeah, so we hope that we can kickstart a trend where more and more comedies are shot here.

• 50:23Hannah Berner?

  We've all been there as women in the arts and women in STEM.

• 50:31Hannah Berner?

  Have you ever walked into a room and felt underestimated because you're a woman? And how do you deal with that energy in the room and then overcome it?

• 50:40Speaker 03

  Wow, big shift in the show.

• 50:44Hannah Berner?

  I go, let's bring out Michelle Obama.

• 50:49Speaker 03

  I actually get, oh, okay, this is gonna sound awful, but I get a little bit of a weird, like, hit off of when I can see when I'm pissing a guy off.

• 51:03Speaker 03

  I feel like I've had moments where I've sat and I've had to like stand up for myself in certain things. And you can just feel them hating it. And I fucking love it.

• 51:17Speaker 03

  There's a part of me that's like, I don't know, I just, when I see that and I, because I, and, and I say this not as a generalization because I work with a lot of great men and I've had a lot of great support from men, women, like. Um, but there are just, we all know them. And those moments for me when I know that I have a little bit of the upper hand and they fucking hate it. I'm like, oh, I'm enjoying every second of this. It's not revenge.

• 51:49Hannah Berner?

  That's the only way I orgasm.

• 51:55Hannah Berner?

  Sorry. Okay, we took it too far. That was my bad.

• 51:58Speaker 03

  But you know what I mean? Like, there is a moment, you know, I think, I think a lot of times, there's sort of like those kinds of people who like, you know, they want to pull the wool over your eyes and you're sitting there and they think they're gonna sweet talk you or they think that they can make you feel a little bit like, "Oh, you should be doing it like this and then we're gonna kind of steamroll you a little bit." And I enjoy those moments when I'm like, "Nope."

• 52:21Hannah Berner?

  I'm all jacked up right now.

• 52:23Speaker 03

  I'm like, "Put me in a room!" But that's how I feel. What about you? I know you're like, you're similar. Come on.

• 52:30Speaker 04

  No, I'm like always at like a simmer. Like, my rage is right under the surface.

• 52:35Hannah Berner?

  You're so paged.

• 52:37Speaker 04

  No, I, I feel like, I am, I feel so lucky. I have like the career of my dreams, like it's everything. But also the scrutiny that I face versus my contemporaries is like absolutely crazy. When I fail, I fail huge. And when my contemporaries fail, it's like a quiet little whatever. If a guy does a show with about a bunch of guys and it's really guy-coded, it's like, it's considered like high art. But if I do a show with women talking about stuff, it's like, "What a cute little trifle. Something to watch as a guilty pleasure when you're on the treadmill."

• 53:10Speaker 03

  Yes, this is what's happening.

• 53:12Speaker 04

  Yeah, and then my, it's just a simmer. I also feel rageful when I'm trying to parallel park a car and a man is like, jumps in and is like, "I'm gonna help you."

• 53:24Speaker 04

  And I'm like, and they're just being friendly. And I'm like, "I don't need this. Back away from my car." And I, I don't know, but that's not answering the question, but I...

• 53:32Hannah Berner?

  That was what I was gonna say.

• 53:34Speaker 03

  Well, that one you might want to...

• 53:35Speaker 04

  I can't, I have it handled. I have a backup crammer because it's fucking 2026.

• 53:39Speaker 03

  You're like, "This is an odd self-driving car, dude."

• 53:42Speaker 04

  And women don't do that. And a woman wouldn't say, "I'm gonna help you."

• 53:46Hannah Berner?

  Imagine.

• 53:47Speaker 04

  Women are like, "I'm gonna go do my own thing." Yeah. And if they're just trying to be helpful, but I'm like... You know, go away. So that's...

• 53:56Hannah Berner?

  And you guys have been in rooms with some of the most powerful influential men in Hollywood.

• 54:01Speaker 04

  And wonderful collaborators, yeah.

• 54:02Hannah Berner?

  And you've had a whole... And you've held your own, and we commend you for that.

• 54:06Speaker 04

  Thank you.

• 54:08Hannah Berner?

  I've never said commend before. That was crazy. Brenda, how about you?

• 54:15Speaker 05

  I'm the opposite. No, kidding, no. Here's the thing that I feel as an Asian-American woman in trying to succeed in anything, and especially in this industry, I feel like you always walk in a room feeling underestimated, feeling like it's gonna be a no. And for me, it's always been about proving to myself my own self-worth. And honestly, I say this all the time, and I truly mean it. Being on this show is one of the first times... I've been doing this since I was three years old, I'm 38. This show has really... It's been one of the few places where I truly feel seen, heard, taken care of, and where I truly feel like I have a voice. And that's really rare.

• 54:55Speaker 05

  And this show, being with women like Kate and Mindy have really taught me to be unafraid, to speak... Like, to speak up, period. Because the truth is, like, I'll be honest, there have been so many times in my career where people are like, "Well, why did you do that role?" I was like, "I'm just trying to work." You think I had a say in it? And that's what's really hard. They make you feel like you have to defend every choice that you make when you realize that you're just trying to survive. And being on this show has really helped me and really given me so much motivation to speak up for myself and to advocate for myself and to take risks that I don't think I would've taken. Like, it's the truth, though. Like, when I started this show, Kate said something amazing to me because she... She had...

• 55:40Speaker 05

  She was starring in a show and also having an album come out. And I... We were talking about it, and she's like, "You did this because for you. You didn't want to have any regrets. You didn't care." And it... Like, she said it so casually, but it hit so hard for me because I feel like I was always so afraid to do something because I was afraid to fail. Because as women, if we have a misstep, it's like a huge failure. We'll never get another shot. And so, truly, being with these women has inspired me so much to be more like them.

• 56:14Hannah Berner?

  And that comes from the top down, like that's from leadership, that's from like having Mindy and Kate.

• 56:19Speaker 04

  We're lucky, the men that we work with on our show are feminists, right? Like they all, like Ike and David have worked on, so they were on The Mindy Project for 117 episodes. Like they want to, they want to write stories about women, like demented women. But they, they think demented women should have a voice. And Scotty and all the, all the guys here, like they're, that's not always the case. Like you do a movie and, you know, there's, I don't know, Kate, you've done this Ruben and I'm a well-known call sheet and there's a couple of guys who maybe aren't so happy about having it be that way. And that's, like, this cast is incredible, the writers are incredible. And so we feel really supported by the men in our world. And that's, that's, I would say it's not as common as you would think. So we are so blessed.

• 57:03Hannah Berner?

  Also, for you guys to get to this point in your career, you've had to do scary things. Like you haven't been comfortable. I know you all have done things that scared the hell out of you and that's how you became great. Do you have any advice for Paige when she's nervous?

• 57:19Hannah Berner?

  I'm just kidding, no, Paige is beta blockered out, she's fine.

• 57:21Speaker 04

  I'm numb.

• 57:22Hannah Berner?

  But like, we're in like this early part of our career, we're only 34, we're babies.

• 57:28Speaker 04

  We're children.

• 57:29Hannah Berner?

  We're literal child brides, we don't know what to do. We're doing a lot of things for the first time that's really scary. When you're insecure, doubting yourself, how do you overcome that? Especially when you're in the public eye?

• 57:42Speaker 03

  In all seriousness, like there is no creative field that you can get into without having to be completely terrified of putting yourself out there. So if you're not going to do it, then you're probably not in the right business, right? So like if creatively, also, what's so fun about what we do is that everything's new, which means it should always feel a little bit like, you know, kinetic and a little fearful and have those nerves. It's like, anything that is a new idea, anything that's a new experience, every time you walk out here and you do something like this, it's gonna be a completely different crowd. You never know what that is going to be. That's part of why we love doing it.

• 58:25Speaker 03

  But it's also like you have to risk the fall. If not, then it's just, you gotta get in like accounting or something. Like, you know, you gotta do something that's.

• 58:36Speaker 04

  Honestly, I need a beta blocker for that too. My advice for you guys, because I know you have a show that you're working on, which is gonna be a huge hit.

• 58:45Speaker 05

  Oh, thank you.

• 58:47Speaker 04

  And you are mere children, I know.

• 58:51Speaker 05

  Thank you.

• 58:52Speaker 04

  So I'm gonna, I hope this doesn't sound condescending, is when you're putting together the team for the show, which I know you're working on right now, it just has to be people that you're like, oh, that person is obsessed with me and my voice. That director, that cast member, that writer, because it's so hard to make a show. There's so many heartbreaks, they're such a roller coaster. But it's like dating someone. The people that you get in bed with, they can't be doing it for the money or because of this and that, or whatever. It's like, when you leave it, you're like, that, when Ike and Dave Stassen came to be interviewed to be writers on The Mindy Project, they came to my house, they were both in full suits. They came, they weren't these comedy writer slobs showing up after the gym because it was like a female-led show and they didn't care.

• 59:34Speaker 04

  They came in and they were these well-raised Chicago guys who were, and they brought, because the show had been picked up, they brought me flowers to congratulate me, right? These two straight men from Chicago came in three PCs because they wanted the gig. And they were like, and that takes a lot. So like, my advice to you guys is you're so talented, you clearly have such an audience, is when you are staffing, staffing up for this show that'll be an inevitable hit, from guest star to director for anybody, like, just get people who are obsessed with you, which won't be hard.

• 1:00:05Hannah Berner?

  I love that. I need more people like, yeah. I know. She's like, can my dad work on this show?

• 1:00:12Speaker 05

  Yeah, I'm like, I know the perfect showrunner.

• 1:00:17Hannah Berner?

  And Brenda, you talked about being scared.

• 1:00:20Speaker 04

  I always say, when you're scared to do something, you know change is about to happen and change can be scary, but I always say, if you're not, if you don't want to make that leap, then you have to be okay with where your life is at. You know what this life is, and if you want to keep living that way, great. But no, no change, like, you have to take that risk. I always just say, when I'm scared, just do it anyway. It's how I get into a lot of trouble.

• 1:00:47Hannah Berner?

  I love that so much. Let's see, what, okay.

• 1:00:54Hannah Berner?

  We have a special guest video. This is, we tried to get Tom Hanks, we couldn't.

• 1:01:03Speaker 06

  What's up Giggly Podcast?

• 1:01:09Speaker 06

  Yeah, I got the giggles over here too. Hannah, Paige, what's up? Mindy, Kate, Brenda, I miss you guys.

• 1:01:18Speaker 06

  Had so much fun working with you guys this season. But you know, we can hang out Kate, if you want to throw another game night and invite me here. You know, any type of that going on Brenda, if you and Nicole, you want to have you, have me over for dinner or something?

• 1:01:31Hannah Berner?

  Okay, it got, it was too long. That went on too long.

• 1:01:34Speaker 04

  Like, I was nervous. I was like, oh god, please remember my name.

• 1:01:37Speaker 05

  Same. I thought he was gonna forget me. I thought he was gonna forget me.

• 1:01:40Speaker 04

  I think he was worried. Like, he was like, Kate, Brenda, Mindy, yes. I felt like he was psyched after he said it.

• 1:01:48Speaker 05

  Well, the funny thing is that's also how, um, I love Chet, how he does all of our table raids that are Zooms. They're usually in a car like that.

• 1:01:56Hannah Berner?

  I'm obsessed with him.

• 1:01:57Speaker 05

  He's, no, it's incredible.

• 1:02:00Speaker 03

  We're always like, where's Chet? No, he's, he's getting on, he's, he's late, he's a little late. But it's, he's just like in his car. Yo, what's up?

• 1:02:07Speaker 04

  In front of a Planet Fitness with his phone propped up on the dashboard in a, in a, in a sleeveless shirt.

• 1:02:16Hannah Berner?

  I literally was, we were like, what should we do for the show? And clearly we had no idea. And I was like, can we get a video from Chet? And they were like, actually, that's one thing we can do.

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• 1:07:06Hannah Berner?

  We love fashion, so we obviously wanted to show some of the favorite looks. And this is Mindy and Kate's favorite look they submitted. I love it. Can we discuss the dance routine and what went into this process? How long did it take you to learn it? I didn't have much time.

• 1:07:22Speaker 03

  And I haven't danced in a while, so like Chloe.

• 1:07:25Speaker 05

  She learned in a day. Yeah, but she literally learned it the day before.

• 1:07:29Speaker 03

  And they're like, and they come and they're like, okay, we're gonna show you the dance. And they were just like.

• 1:07:34Speaker 04

  Kate is a scam artist. She did that thing where she's like, guys, I don't know. I don't think I'll be able to get it. It's very complicated. And then just did that. On like the second, you were, dance comes, you were.

• 1:07:50Speaker 03

  She's a performer, yeah. I used to dance a lot. And then, of course, you know, you get older and you don't dance at all. And so it kind of, it's like riding a bike. It sort of comes back a little bit. But then, you know, I look at it and I'm like, I gotta go back to dance class. But it was so much fun.

• 1:08:05Hannah Berner?

  You know what they call that? She's a triple threat. That's what they say in the business, in this town.

• 1:08:11Speaker 03

  It was fun. It was so great. But I really, the best part was the outfit.

• 1:08:14Speaker 04

  It's so cute.

• 1:08:16Speaker 03

  I just liked those little shorts.

• 1:08:19Hannah Berner?

  And you're glowing. You were like, this is where I'm meant to be.

• 1:08:21Speaker 03

  I was happy. We had so much fun.

• 1:08:24Hannah Berner?

  Also, this is me selfishly preparing for our show. When you're trying to remember your lines.

• 1:08:31Hannah Berner?

  Cause like you can learn, have new lines the day of. Like, are you guys quick with it? Or you like leave me alone in my trailer? Like, what's your process? We're very nervous about remembering our lines.

• 1:08:41Speaker 04

  Hannah's really nervous about remembering our lines.

• 1:08:44Speaker 05

  Can I tell you guys, this is Kate. Kate's like on a phone, on a FaceTime. She goes, I don't know what the scene is yet. Hold on. Okay. And then she'll get the whole entire scene. I don't know how she does it. I'm not kidding you, she does it all the time. You just have.

• 1:08:56Speaker 04

  You can just memorize really quickly.

• 1:08:58Speaker 03

  I think I might have a little bit of, I really actually have one of those weird. I could learn a monologue. Like right now, if I had like about 35 minutes, I could probably do a monologue.

• 1:09:08Speaker 04

  This is annoying. She's like, dance comes easily to me.

• 1:09:13Hannah Berner?

  My legs and my toes.

• 1:09:15Speaker 03

  I'm gonna start laughing.

• 1:09:17Speaker 04

  But it's my brain works differently than your guys' is.

• 1:09:20Speaker 05

  I get you now. We've been on set before where Kate's like, oh yeah, we're doing this scene. We're like, no, no, no, we're doing this other scene. She goes, what? And she likes like, okay, well, give me the signs. And she like sits there while they're like touching her up and she has it in her desk. And she's like. And then she like knows every single word. It's kind of insane. Like line, do people actually do that?

• 1:09:43Hannah Berner?

  Paige, they did it with us. We did something.

• 1:09:46Speaker 05

  I will say that here's a trick that I use that I love is I, the night before, I don't, I read it. It's the last thing I do because there are studies that if you read it, it repeats in your brain. It's the last thing. So I go over my signs. It's the very last thing I do and I fall asleep. And I wake up and it's usually memorized.

• 1:10:04Speaker 04

  What if you have sex that night?

• 1:10:06Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:10:06Speaker 04

  What if it goes like you read it and you have sex?

• 1:10:09Speaker 05

  No, but then I have to go wash my face and get all ready. I have to do a whole routine.

• 1:10:13Speaker 04

  You have, so you have makeup on when you have sex?

• 1:10:15Speaker 05

  No.

• 1:10:16Hannah Berner?

  These are the important questions. Thank you, Mindy.

• 1:10:18Speaker 05

  But also like I still have like, but even if you do, I can't just like roll, I have a like, it's.

• 1:10:23Speaker 03

  You don't roll over and go right to bed?

• 1:10:24Speaker 05

  Because but I like, I fall asleep, but I don't fall, I have to, I'm not a good sleeper. I'm not a good sleeper.

• 1:10:29Hannah Berner?

  So I was before this went, she's like, and then I have my rolling TV. I can't fall asleep with a rolling TV.

• 1:10:34Speaker 05

  I need a rolling TV.

• 1:10:36Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, now why don't we have a rolling TV?

• 1:10:41Speaker 04

  We'll talk after about the routine after you read your lines and have sex and go to bed. No, I, I just wonder if it needs to imprint on you and then you just, nothing has to go straight to sleep. You can't be distracted by something.

• 1:10:52Speaker 05

  No, no, I can like, it's just the thing that I do like in, like it's one of the last things I do.

• 1:10:56Speaker 04

  That's a good trick. I will say, because you guys are going to be the stars of this show. I think it was so much easier for me to know my lines when I was on The Mindy Project than I was on The Office. Because I'd be waiting all day for my one line and the pressure's on and you're like, I'm going to mess this up. Because we've seen this sometimes. We'll have like a guest stars to come on and somehow it's harder to know you're lying on the spot. Because you're like, I don't want to blow it. But then when you have a ton of lines, you get into the zone where, yeah, it'll be great.

• 1:11:22Hannah Berner?

  I've been like auditioning a little and every now and then I'll just get one line audition. I overthink that one line so bad. I'm doing different, I'm like, that's not how people say that. I forget how words work. So.

• 1:11:36Speaker 03

  That's like when you're on mushrooms and like, and like, and like there's a word and you're like, I think it's, I think it's popsicle.

• 1:11:47Speaker 03

  Is that the word popsicle?

• 1:11:51Speaker 03

  And in your mind, you're like, "No, it's not."

• 1:11:55Hannah Berner?

  Our favorite looks from the show. Brenda's giving Hannah coded.

• 1:11:59Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:12:00Hannah Berner?

  I thought that was me. I thought that was me on the right. We love a tie. I joked that when you wear a tie, you feel powerful, like you can't help it. You feel like you have a dick. You know what I mean? Like, I know how it feels to just have something swinging.

• 1:12:14Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:12:15Hannah Berner?

  And I started talking to people different. I'm like, "What did you say?" I started explaining things and stuff, like I'm...

• 1:12:20Speaker 05

  Yeah, she fires me.

• 1:12:22Hannah Berner?

  And I wear a tie when I was doing my stand-up tour and I walk on stage. I think more women should wear ties. And they look sexy.

• 1:12:29Speaker 05

  And the funny thing is, Lisa joked that, because I would tie my own ties, and all the boys on the show would need their dresser to do their ties. And I'm like, "What? This makes no sense." And this guy's like, "I know how to tie a tie. I just don't want to." I was like, "Well, you lazy ass, tie your own tie."

• 1:12:45Speaker 05

  Man.

• 1:12:46Hannah Berner?

  And then, you love...

• 1:12:48Speaker 05

  I love, I feel like you had such good looks the whole season. But I love when you're in like a monochromatic, just like, "I'm coming in to fuck shit up."

• 1:12:56Speaker 03

  I was very monochromatic. I like the monochromatic. I loved that too, although it was hard to wear.

• 1:13:01Speaker 05

  Yeah, remember, because it was a bodysuit. I remember this. I had to tuck it in a couple times.

• 1:13:04Speaker 03

  It was hard, and it kept coming up, and it was hard to get my mic.

• 1:13:09Hannah Berner?

  Okay, back to Advice for Us.

• 1:13:12Hannah Berner?

  We have so many questions. I didn't actually run this by you, so this is a hard question. But like, you guys have been acting for a while. What's your kind of most like, embarrassing mistake or moment that you've had on set? Because whatever it is, I feel like I'm gonna do it. I feel like it's gonna be with a toilet. That's what I... The...

• 1:13:29Speaker 05

  Don't put it in the atmosphere.

• 1:13:30Hannah Berner?

  The trailers, that's stressful. Trailers are stressful.

• 1:13:33Speaker 03

  Oh, you mean being in a trailer on set?

• 1:13:36Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, because I get nervous tummies. I've never said tummies before. I was just looking at Kate Hudson in the eye and I freaked out.

• 1:13:44Speaker 05

  You didn't want to tell Kate Hudson you shit your pants all the time?

• 1:13:48Hannah Berner?

  Before I go onstage or perform.

• 1:13:49Speaker 05

  She shit herself at the Devil Wears Prada premiere.

• 1:13:55Speaker 04

  Wait, really?

• 1:13:56Hannah Berner?

  I had a bug. I had a stomach bug.

• 1:13:58Speaker 05

  No, she didn't. She drank whole milk a couple hours earlier.

• 1:14:02Hannah Berner?

  My mom tried to poison me with a latte.

• 1:14:05Speaker 04

  Hold on, so at the bathroom at the AMC or wherever where the premiere was?

• 1:14:11Speaker 05

  I wish we were at the AMC. We were at Lincoln Center, okay? We were at the real premiere.

• 1:14:18Speaker 04

  She broke the toilet at Lincoln Center.

• 1:14:20Speaker 05

  She literally sharted and it, yeah.

• 1:14:23Hannah Berner?

  Well, you know when you're, I was holding it in the whole carpet. I was like, "Mmmmm." And then I got to like the party area. Heidi Klum looked at me and...

• 1:14:30Speaker 05

  She didn't tell me until the end of the night because she didn't want to ruin my time.

• 1:14:34Speaker 04

  That's a good friend.

• 1:14:35Hannah Berner?

  But again, what are like things I should look out for on set in terms of... In terms of professionalism, like what could I do that'd be like, "We'll never work with her again in this town"?

• 1:14:44Speaker 04

  Okay, this for real, and you guys have all had experiences with this. Don't get romantically involved with a co-star.

• 1:14:50Speaker 05

  She's married.

• 1:14:51Hannah Berner?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:14:52Speaker 04

  You're married.

• 1:14:52Hannah Berner?

  We're married.

• 1:14:53Speaker 04

  Don't have an affair with a co-star.

• 1:14:55Speaker 03

  That doesn't matter.

• 1:14:58Speaker 03

  Not in Hollywood. Sorry.

• 1:15:01Speaker 05

  You see it all the time.

• 1:15:03Speaker 04

  Guys, don't have an affair with your co-stars.

• 1:15:05Speaker 05

  Don't have an affair. Don't fall in love.

• 1:15:07Hannah Berner?

  Do you find it's like you're, it's like manifesting, like you're acting in your love? You're acting in love and then you're in love.

• 1:15:12Speaker 04

  Yeah, you're gonna want to and you're gonna do it, but don't, just don't do it.

• 1:15:16Speaker 05

  And is it because you're just like with them all day, every day that you're like, "That's the greatest person I've ever met"?

• 1:15:21Speaker 04

  Yeah, and they'll be...

• 1:15:22Hannah Berner?

  It's like The Bachelor. You're like filming enough that you're like, "Okay, fine, he's my husband."

• 1:15:26Speaker 05

  And like, in like three weeks, you're like, "He's the love of my life."

• 1:15:30Hannah Berner?

  Yeah. Well, because acting, you have to be in that mindset.

• 1:15:33Speaker 04

  Having an emotional affair with a co-star.

• 1:15:35Hannah Berner?

  And you guys are kiss, like you kiss.

• 1:15:36Speaker 04

  Have you guys had emotional affairs?

• 1:15:39Hannah Berner?

  Kate is kissing everyone in this movie. I mean, this TV show.

• 1:15:43Speaker 03

  Listen, Mindy wants me to make out with every single person in the world. She's like, "You're going to have sex with a long guy."

• 1:15:50Speaker 04

  It's good TV.

• 1:15:52Hannah Berner?

  Is the rule like no tongue?

• 1:15:54Speaker 04

  Every other show is a sad documentary.

• 1:15:56Hannah Berner?

  Is the rule, there are no rules in this business.

• 1:15:59Speaker 03

  Yes, no, it depends on how you, it depends, you know.

• 1:16:03Hannah Berner?

  If it's a tongue kiss.

• 1:16:05Speaker 03

  Well, no, I mean, look, if you're doing Baby Girl, you know, like what they call dead men, yeah, you're gonna get a little wild. But if you're doing Running Point, you know, we're not baby girling. But no, the one thing my dad said to me was like, one of the first pieces of advice my dad Kurt said, which he, he goes, enjoy it, have a great time, do not fuck your co-stars. That's it. And I was like, you married my mom. What are you talking about? He's like, well, you can fall in love with them, but you can't fuck them until you really know you're falling in love with them and that's your person.

• 1:16:44Speaker 04

  Okay, got it.

• 1:16:45Speaker 03

  So that's, that's the, so, you know.

• 1:16:48Hannah Berner?

  That's an amazing story.

• 1:16:49Speaker 03

  And I think it's great advice.

• 1:16:50Hannah Berner?

  And then in Hollywood, the guys actually are good looking. It's not just like a guy named Steve who like is in marketing.

• 1:16:56Speaker 03

  Oh, no. It's okay, it's part of the party trick.

• 1:17:00Speaker 04

  Okay. It's very whimsical. Yeah, it's fun, that's fun.

• 1:17:05Speaker 03

  I'm gonna be naked on stage, it'll be fun.

• 1:17:07Speaker 04

  Like Roger Federer, you just throw it out there at the end for somebody.

• 1:17:11Hannah Berner?

  You love tennis, don't you?

• 1:17:12Speaker 04

  I like, I like tennis.

• 1:17:13Hannah Berner?

  I've seen you at the US Open, I feel like, or something.

• 1:17:16Speaker 04

  I go to tennis, I like tennis.

• 1:17:17Hannah Berner?

  You dabble.

• 1:17:18Speaker 04

  You know, I, I feel like it's my, I'm not as into tennis as you are into sports. I feel like you're the sports person. You don't have a rolling TV. I don't have a rolling TV for tennis.

• 1:17:27Hannah Berner?

  There's no shame, but you can love tennis casually, you can love it however much you want. I've seen you in a good outfit at the Open before, I feel like.

• 1:17:34Speaker 04

  Are they fun? I've never been to a tennis match. It's a little quiet, like for someone like me. I'd be, that's. You can't be yapping, you do what I mean?

• 1:17:43Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, and then you're stuck with your thoughts.

• 1:17:45Speaker 04

  You're stuck with your thoughts, but I do love tennis, I think it's, it's fun. You get to wear a look. Do you play? No, but thank you for asking. If I could ever play tennis, thank you.

• 1:17:57Hannah Berner?

  Brenda, what's your advice based on a really traumatic time?

• 1:18:01Speaker 04

  Okay, so, when I think about working at the.

• 1:18:04Speaker 05

  Like the most like embarrassing thing that's I mean, I mean, I've done, I mean, I had my first kiss in real life on set. Like when I was 16, yeah, on The Suite Life, I had my first kiss. Oh, my gosh. Yeah, I know, child, like, Kate is like so sad. Shelter child actor. But I will say, so the, I think my most embarrassing moment is when you do a sitcom, they always, in the beginning of a show, because we're doing it in front of a live audience, they introduce the cast, so everyone runs out, we wave, and we stand off to the side. When I did The Suite Life, we did two iterations, we did like almost 200 episodes of this show. Like, I always did it in high heels and like came out, nothing, the very, very, very last episode.

• 1:18:45Speaker 05

  The very, we, it's at the end, we're all crying, and I, I'd already wrapped up in my slippers, and I was like, okay, whatever, we go out, I'm like, my last one. I slipped like it's bananas on the floor, straight up on my back while I'm crying, and I'm like, and I literally just lay there, because I don't know what to do. That's traumatic. That's my most traumatic, and I literally still have like fever dreams about it. Because it's the most, yeah, so No, that's the scariest. Don't wear slippers and run on a set.

• 1:19:16Hannah Berner?

  But I feel like it made you funny, it made you funnier, and it made you stronger. Thank you for sharing that with us.

• 1:19:21Speaker 05

  I don't know.

• 1:19:21Hannah Berner?

  Thank you. Thank you. You guys, I think we've really hit on everything, and these women are really busy and like spared their time. I want you all to promise me you're gonna go home tonight, go to Netflix, turn on Running Point, and binge the fuck out of it.

• 1:19:42Hannah Berner?

  And can we all please put our hands together for our amazing guests tonight? Thank you so much, this was so much fun. Give it up for Kate, Brenda, and Mindy.

• 1:19:53Speaker 05

  Thank you.

• 1:19:53Hannah Berner?

  You guys are amazing.

• 1:19:54Speaker 05

  We love you so much. Thank you, Kate.

• 1:19:56Hannah Berner?

  We love you so much. Thank you, gigglers, we love you so much. Thank you.