Charlie Kirk Killing Sparks Firings, Rubio Visits Israel & Tommy Robinson's London Rally | PBD Podcast | Ep. 648

Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Vincent Oshana, and Adam Sosnick break down the fallout after Charlie Kirk’s killing—including TMZ’s apology after laughter during their newsroom livestream that was not in response to his death, and Tommy Robinson’s massive “Unite the Kingdom” London rally where over 100,000 anti-immigration protesters clashed with police. ------ 🇺🇸 GET THE USA COLLECTION. 100% OF USA MERCH SALES WILL BE DONATED TO TURNING POINT USA: https://bit.ly/46fEYWJ 🍋 ZEST IT FORWARD: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4kJ71lc⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4kJ71lc 📕 PBD'S BOOK "THE ACADEMY": ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/41rtEV4⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/41rtEV4 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON SPOTIFY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g57zR2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4g57zR2 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ITUNES: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ALL PLATFORMS: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A 📱 CONNECT ON MINNECT: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4ikyEkC⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4ikyEkC 👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3ZjWhB7⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/3ZjWhB7 📰 VTNEWS. AI: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3OExClZ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/3OExClZ 🎓 VALUETAINMENT UNIVERSITY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3BfA5Qw⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/3BfA5Qw 📺 JOIN THE CHANNEL: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or 💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time! ABOUT US: Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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• 0:00Speaker 00

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• 0:53Speaker 02

  Adam, what's your point? The future looks bright? My handshake is better than anything I ever signed right here.

• 1:02Patrick Bet-David?

  You are a one of one?

• 1:03Speaker 02

  My son's right there.

• 1:04Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't think I've ever said this before.

• 1:11Patrick Bet-David?

  All right, gang. Great to be with you Monday morning. Hope you all went to church this weekend. There's a lot of people going to church, literally, a lot of people going to church. I know we had a couple here that Vinnie invited to go to church for the first time in a long time, some 15 years. I cannot tell you how many mannequins I'm getting of people telling me, Pat, I'm looking for a church. A guy, literally, the last mannequin I just did, I'm not going to read his name, but this fellow sends me a mannequin and says the following to me. He grew up a Muslim in Iran. He says, "Hi, Patrick. My name is, I was born in Iran to a predominantly Muslim family. Though my parents were never really religious, my parents and I immigrated to the US when I was an infant." In oh four, we returned to Iran where I attended an international school in Tehran

• 1:56Patrick Bet-David?

  and spent my teenage years before moving back to the States in oh nine. I went on to complete my education, mentioned to become a doctor. For most of my life, I was never a religious person. Faith wasn't something I pursued or thought much about. But recently, I believe I watched a man be crucified before the world for his faith. And it awakened something in me I didn't know was there. It steered a part of my soul that had been asleep. As I've reflected, I've come to see that this is no longer about politics. It's about something much deeper. It's about good and evil. Many of the people I look up to and respect, including yourself, have chosen to follow Christ. Where should I begin? Are you kidding me? This is the last minute that I did once I walked in.

• 2:39Speaker 04

  I love that.

• 2:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Isn't that amazing on what's going on right now? Let me tell you, all because of a guy had the audacity to go out there and talk to young kids and try to inspire them and talk about God and America and the Constitution and, you know, I had my kids, I got my kids on a whole program right now to learn everything and anything. All my kids are, my oldest son is very much interested in politics. But I got a full program right now that I'm offering them a scholarship, some kind of a victory if they pull it off. Um, incentive to learn more about what makes America the greatest country in the world. Anyways, it's great to be with you guys. Interesting weekend. Last night I got a text message from a good friend of ours. You guys know who he is. I don't want to mention his name.

• 3:22Patrick Bet-David?

  He says, hey, all day yesterday was text messages about TMZ, TMZ, TMZ. TMZ got slammed this weekend, hammered this weekend.

• 3:32Speaker 04

  Harvey.

• 3:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Every one of our clips we put up, no matter where it is, the reaction is unbelievable. And last night, one of my friends reached out to Charles from TMZ, talked to their PR person at TMZ because he blew him off at first. He's like, well, why would I talk to him? I can't believe that. Look, listen, man, I'm not trying to have a fight with you. And we even reached out to their publicist. And the publicist, a guy named Casey, so we reached out to Casey as well, he's aware if he's watching this. I'm gonna give you my thoughts on who else has reached out. Employees on the inside of TMZ have reached out to me directly. Employees on the inside of TMZ have reached out to me directly.

• 4:16Patrick Bet-David?

  All we wanted you to do is to do exactly where you hold everybody else accountable. Your business model, like Tom said it so eloquently, is about exposing others. All you had to do is say, "We effed up. Here's what we're doing." That's all the audience wants. We'd move on. You keep dragging it and dragging it and dragging it and dragging it and dragging it. And you're gonna keep getting this from people, not just from people like myself. I'm a simple guy, but you're gonna get it from everybody around the community. So, we'll come back to that. I'll tell you all the story about TMZ, so stick around. Trump praises Cash Patel for speedy capture of Charlie Kirk's assassin. Apparently, they found that the assassin has a roommate that's a transgender that maybe even is dating.

• 4:58Patrick Bet-David?

  And the father was getting close to the pastor because the father felt like he was losing his son based on what Tom and us were talking about this morning. Tom's gonna give you guys analysis on that. And Cash, just a few minutes ago, I wanna say 18 minutes ago, 20 minutes ago, 25 minutes ago, they found that the DNA matches the gun and it matches the, what do you call it? The screwdriver that they had. So, we'll see. There's still a lot of questions and speculation. I think the administration's number one priority to identify who this person is ASAP. ASAP, because everybody's blaming everybody. It was, you know, mainstream media, it is deep state, it is the Groypers, it was 11 out of 13 questions asked.

• 5:41Patrick Bet-David?

  I see this stuff was from guys that were Groiper members and this is because of Nick. And no, it's because of Israel. No, it's because of this and 10,000 people blaming it on Israel. Everything's out there. White House jobs, immediately identify who this person is to stop the momentum. Because this is just gonna go like, "Oh yeah? Oh yeah? Oh yeah? Oh yeah? No, no, boom." Here's what it is. And I hope they pull it off because this can get nasty very quickly. The family announced that they're gonna be doing the service next Sunday in Glendale, Arizona. Aside from that, Bill Maher condemns people who mock Charlie Kirk's death. I think you're gross.

• 6:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Few things that we'll talk about with China throws a fit over Mexico playing ball with Trump on trade, Treasury to share Epstein's financial records with Congress. Americans shatter fundraising records after Charlie Kirk's tragic death at university event. Democrat representative telling CNN that labeling GOP fascist or Hitler doesn't incite people. Really? It doesn't incite people? Elon just retweeted something that was very powerful. He said, "It's not that..." I'll read it to you guys in a minute when I find it. It's a very powerful tweet that Elon Musk retweeted with the quote that was used. By the time we get to the story, I'll find it and I'll talk about it.

• 7:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me see if I can find it real quick. If not, we'll just come to it when I show it to you. Nah, I'll come to it when I show it to you. We'll get to it. Okay. Conservative viewership surges as pundits cover Charlie Kirk's shooting. NFL will allow home teams to decide on Charlie Kirk's remembrance before Sunday's Week 2 games. Two NFL teams, five NFL teams reportedly, didn't give any recognition to Charlie Kirk's assassination. Five of them. And one of the teams that didn't, the quarterback fired a board member because of comments that was made, and we'll get to that guy as well. And it's a quarterback that got injured this weekend with his toe, but we'll cover that. Now it's personal. Young conservatives vow to continue Kirk's work. Kirk honored as generation's greatest at massive London rally where Musk condemns the left.

• 7:45Patrick Bet-David?

  This is the Tommy Robinson rally. A million people allegedly on the streets. I mean, it looks insane when you see this video. We retweeted the video. It looks wild. And then one in Europe. This is now happening all over the world where people are done with it. Jasmine Crockett denies wannabe Hitler leftist smears against Trump's... Trump led to Charlie Kirk's murder. Stephen King screwed up, said something, apologized afterwards. Florida puts teachers on notice for despicable social media comments celebrating assassination of Charlie Kirk. Can you imagine that? It's just insane when you think about it. Charlie Cook's alleged assassin, Lipstick, got it? We got that one. Ram cancels all electric pickup cars.

• 8:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Uh, US amid, uh, uh, US amidst slowing demand, all electric. Americans are no longer that excited about electric that they used to be. Economists sees rate cuts, we'll talk about. Jamie Dimon says economy is weakening. Warrants of uncertain outlook. Mortgage rates sink fastest. Cuomo attacks Musk, says he wouldn't be surprised if he were murdered after Cook's assassination. Uh, JP Morgan, process over billionaires or Jeffrey Epstein's despite internal concerns over sex offender status. We got a couple of other stories that we'll get into, but obviously a lot of it is going to be here with, um, Charlie. Rob, do you mind showing the RFK event on what was going on?

• 9:12Patrick Bet-David?

  I mean, you're seeing the level of proud people are becoming, how it's bringing people together to be proud to chant USA, USA, USA. Go ahead, Rob. This is for Charlie Cook's vigil last night.

• 9:38Tom Ellsworth?

  A man who understands loss.

• 9:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I mean, it's like.

• 9:51Tom Ellsworth?

  That's awesome.

• 9:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I love this. Let me tell you what we're doing. Uh, Rob, if you can go gang, we have our USA merch on VTmerch.com. And here's what we're going to be doing. A hundred percent of whatever you buy with USA on it is going to be given to Turning Point USA and Charlie Kirk. A hundred percent. Whatever you buy with USA on it, one hundred, I'm not talking 100% of profits. 100% of gross sales that we make of anything with USA today on it, right here, 100% of this proceeds are going to go to Turning Point, Point USA. And Erica Charlie Kirk's family and everything they have going on.

• 10:31Patrick Bet-David?

  It is amazing that it took one 31 year old young man, father of two, married to Erica, a man who started Turning Point USA, who had a vision, has gotten America to be proud to become Americans again, got people going back to church again. It is amazing that something like this had to happen for America to get to this point. But God willing, this this direction we're going to be going to continues of Americans being proud. You know, obviously for me, I had him as the most important person in America we're going to have for decades to come. That's what I always said. Every interview I ever do, when people ask me about Charlie Kirk, I said, this guy's the most important voice in America today because everybody has a certain age. He's 31. He's going to be going for many, many years.

• 11:16Patrick Bet-David?

  But God willing, the younger folks are going to continue to pick up the torch and keep inspiring to do what he did and maybe even take it to different levels around the world. While we're having this conversation, this is what's going on in UK yesterday, Rob. If you can play the clip. This is UK yesterday. Elon Musk jumps on a stream with Tommy Robinson. This is UK, okay? Watch this. Unbelievable when you see this.

• 11:51Patrick Bet-David?

  You don't even know if it's safe for that bridge to have that many people, by the way.

• 11:54Speaker 04

  Hell no, look at that. Finally.

• 11:57Patrick Bet-David?

  This is in UK, is what you're talking about.

• 12:00Speaker 04

  Yep.

• 12:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Great. Great for Tommy. And Rob, Elon Musk jumps on the live stream, if I'm not mistaken, Elon Musk jumps on the live stream with Tommy Robinson, okay, saying a few words. And what he said is that they're going to be coming after you. This is what he had to say, Rob. If you want to play this, go for it.

• 12:21Speaker 00

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• 12:51Speaker 01

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• 13:30Patrick Bet-David?

  What would Orwell think is the shirt he's wearing? 1984.

• 13:40Speaker 06

  Okay, congratulations. Congratulations, Tommy, on putting together an amazing event and really rallying good people in Britain.

• 13:49Speaker 07

  Elon, none of this could have happened without you giving the British public access to the truth and giving us free speech and fighting for our free speech. So on behalf of Great Britain and the British public, we're incredibly grateful, Elon.

• 14:03Speaker 06

  You're most welcome. You're most welcome. And you may notice this t-shirt that I'm wearing. It's great British author George Orwell. What would Orwell think? I think that's generally a good way to look at these things. He would want freedom of speech. He would want the people to know what's real. He'd want the people to fight against government oppression and fight for the truth and fight for the future of Britain.

• 14:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Now, there's another clip, Raf, that I want you to find. It says, "The Left is the Party of Murder." Okay, if you can find this, that Elon says this to Tommy. "Left is the party of murder." Okay, "Left is the party of murder." If you can pull this up, there's a clip of Musk saying this. I think you just go for it.

• 14:53Speaker 06

  And then you see how much violence there is on the left with our friend Charlie Cook getting murdered in cold blood this week and people on the left celebrating it openly.

• 15:07Speaker 06

  The left is the party of murder.

• 15:11Speaker 06

  And celebrating murder.

• 15:15Speaker 06

  I mean, let that sink in for a minute.

• 15:20Speaker 06

  That's who we're dealing with here.

• 15:23Patrick Bet-David?

  That's about the, by the way, a statement like that. I tweeted something last night, Rob, if you're gonna pull it up and then I'm gonna come to you guys. Last night I tweeted something saying it's been four days since Charlie Kirk's assassination. No riots, no cities burned, conservatives mourn, the left destroys. This is a reflection of what Charlie stood for. Love over hate, hate, faith over fear. The future of America looks bright if these values become popular again, right? I watched this and then gradually I went in the comment section just to see what other people were saying. Okay? Just to see what other people were saying. What about January 6th? What about this?

• 16:07Patrick Bet-David?

  And what about all these conservatives that are getting people fired? And what about all these conservatives that are calling on these guys to lose their jobs? What about them, huh? What do you have to say about these guys? And you sit there, you're like, listen buddy. You're losing a job for celebrating somebody dying. This black girl on school campus, did you see what happened to her yesterday? Did you see, I put in the comment section, did you see this one? She's like, your boy got killed. Your boy got killed. Okay? F y'all, your homie died, that one right there, Rob. Can you play this clip? Yep. Play this clip, watch this here. Watch this one here.

• 16:44Speaker 08

  Your homie dead.

• 16:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, this girl, yeah.

• 16:49Patrick Bet-David?

  This is an 18-year-old kid going to school. Watch this.

• 16:55Speaker 08

  Ugh, evil is real, people. It kinda looks like that. Wow. Evil. Evil.

• 17:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Watch this.

• 17:02Speaker 08

  Murder is bad, she is evil.

• 17:05Adam Sosnick?

  Why are you being so hateful?

• 17:07Speaker 08

  Why are you so hateful? Why are you so hateful? Why are you so hateful?

• 17:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Of course, he's being hateful.

• 17:12Speaker 08

  Can you not put this hammer in my face?

• 17:14Adam Sosnick?

  I'm sitting here, you walked up to me. I don't want this, I said rest in peace. Just leave it alone, please don't come after me. I want to be left alone.

• 17:22Speaker 08

  I'm not emotional ma'am, don't tell me what I am and what I'm not. You can get out of my face, because I could tell you what you are, but you won't like it.

• 17:27Adam Sosnick?

  You're being aggressive. You're being aggressive.

• 17:29Speaker 08

  I'm not being aggressive, my voice is very calm. You're calling me aggressive because I'm a black woman.

• 17:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Because I'm a black woman. I feel bad, like I feel bad for Pat.

• 17:36Adam Sosnick?

  There it is.

• 17:37Patrick Bet-David?

  She's been captured. That's right. I feel like my heart hurts for them. She got arrested. She did? She got arrested, and she got kicked out of school.

• 17:44Adam Sosnick?

  Because later she assaulted somebody.

• 17:45Patrick Bet-David?

  That's it, that's it. She got arrested, and she got kicked out of school. You see these things, Rob, play the clip with the, with the mom coming and saying, "You won't believe what happened today." The three kids Rob, I sent it to you. The Vice President, did Elon Musk die? Look at this, like this is...

• 18:01Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, the two little young girls?

• 18:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, watch this.

• 18:03Adam Sosnick?

  Unbelievable.

• 18:05Speaker 10

  I have the best news ever.

• 18:06Speaker 08

  What? Donald Trump died?

• 18:08Adam Sosnick?

  Jeez. That's the best news.

• 18:10Speaker 10

  Second best news.

• 18:12Speaker 08

  The Vice President died?

• 18:14Speaker 10

  Okay, third best news.

• 18:16Speaker 08

  That Elon Musk died?

• 18:18Speaker 10

  Okay, no, no, no, no. Nobody died, my best friend is getting married.

• 18:23Speaker 08

  Which one is it?

• 18:24Speaker 10

  Taylor Swift! Taylor Swift and Travis Kofi got engaged!

• 18:29Patrick Bet-David?

  I mean, you watch these clips.

• 18:31Adam Sosnick?

  Okay.

• 18:33Patrick Bet-David?

  How old do you think those girls were? Twelve, five and ten? Eleven and eight. Eleven and eight, something like that. Parents raising kids like that.

• 18:41Adam Sosnick?

  Unbelievable.

• 18:42Patrick Bet-David?

  This part exists, where they're saying, "Well, you got this person fired." Yeah, if a person celebrates someone getting assassinated and killed, what do you think should happen to that person? Do you want to keep that person if you're running a company? Do you, do you want to, say you're running a business, you got a hundred employees, five of them celebrate that a person got assassinated and killed? If you choose to keep them as your investor, I would question your intelligence.

• 19:09Adam Sosnick?

  Oh yeah.

• 19:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Who are you hiring and keeping? But this is a person that got shot and killed? And you're saying, how about the people that are getting fired? Anyways, Tom, what's on your mind with everything that's going on right now? Obviously, lots been going on, but with specific to these stories that we're covering here right now.

• 19:24Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, first of all, this-

• 19:25Patrick Bet-David?

  UK, London, mosque, schools.

• 19:27Tom Ellsworth?

  First of all, you love what that student just did to her LinkedIn profile. Isn't that nice? Isn't that nice? Boy, what a LinkedIn profile. There it is. There you go. Everything you need to know. So, freedom of speech. You know, free speech? The price of free speech is free speech. That's what I keep saying. And what I think here is people are exercising free speech. And what they don't understand is that free speech also has consequences. On the bad side, a government can take up arms against you, as they do in China, as they do in communist countries. And when you try to exercise free speech, there can be consequences on the political side. And then here, these people have been living in the cancer,

• 20:12Tom Ellsworth?

  the cancer, the tumor that's in their soul of hatred since the cancel culture of the BLM riders. They wanted to cancel everybody else. Fire these people, take their jobs, things like this. And now it's coming back, the little thing called at-will employment. And Vinny, you know what at-will employment is, right? You run a business, people are at-will. You could say, listen, economy's not doing so good, I gotta lay you off. It's not a union job. You could say, you're not very good culturally with the rest of your employees, seem to upset people, rather than just getting your job done. Guess what? You're at-will employment. And what I think is going on is these people are just so indoctrinated. And the indoctrination, nothing surprises me about the adults.

• 20:56Tom Ellsworth?

  That student, she's an adult. What crushes my soul, Pat, is when I see those little kids. Those kids are being raised in a home-

• 21:08Tom Ellsworth?

  Where things are being said and their first reflex, Donald Trump died? The Vice President died? Elon Musk died? Are you kidding me? And look at the glee in their void. They're being taught that. That's how they're being taught. And if you think that there's a difference there and the Muslim clerics that radicalize the kids that did the subway bombing so many years ago in London? You're wrong. There's no difference. It's the indoctrination of hate. And people are coming out and showing, but even greater? It says, Bible says that love will conquer hate. That earth will not be your paradise. Heaven is your paradise. But love will win. And Christ's love will win. And I see the response of people coming out to that. And that's what gives me hope.

• 21:53Tom Ellsworth?

  And I also hope that somewhere, someplace, there are neighbors that see those little girls that can start working with them or start having an influence on them. Cause those little girls, they're innocent. They're being raised in this home and they're being taught that way. That just, that just kills me. That kills me. Adults, hey, you're responsible for it. And now your LinkedIn includes a mugshot. Good, good job lady. Good job. You're out of school and now you've put that, you put those points on the board for everybody to see. I have no sympathy for you.

• 22:22Speaker 04

  I feel you.

• 22:22Tom Ellsworth?

  He said, but those kids and what's going on? That busts me up and I love what I'm seeing in the outpouring of respect everywhere.

• 22:30Speaker 04

  Um, Tom, I love you. Great, great point. Uh, in regard to, to England with, with, uh, Tommy Robinson. Finally, finally Pat, and I, I learned something from you a couple of weeks ago. Hope. Don't lose hope. And they're not. I hope it's not too late, but they're not, they haven't lost the hope. In regard to Charlie and God rest his soul, uh, what did Rahm Emanuel say in 2008? Never let a crisis go to waste. Okay? And I think this moment, we have to take this moment, Pat. And, and it showed us. What we're up against, okay? It revealed these, and I say this word a lot, now me and Jake laugh about it, Pat, these demons, and I think the devil, the devil in this moment, Pat, was so joyous in the killing that he forgot to hide himself in these people.

• 23:14Speaker 04

  I have a couple of videos, Pat, and I'm not being facetious. This woman, thank you, Tommy, this woman, Pat, you tell me, tell me, in your heart of hearts, she doesn't look demon possessed, she's openly talking about, and I'm, I'm, I'm assuming allegedly that she's talking about other people that she wants dead, and I think it's Trump. Listen, guys, pay attention about what's inside this woman's soul, and tell me she doesn't scare the hell out of you. Go ahead, Rob.

• 23:42Speaker 04

  Watch.

• 23:42Speaker 08

  We're gonna push it. We're gonna see how far we can push it.

• 23:48Speaker 04

  Unbelievable. Look, look what you're up against.

• 23:51Speaker 08

  I was not kidding when I said, if you were gonna get the job done, there were two better candidates.

• 24:02Speaker 04

  Weird. Who's she talking about? Zee?

• 24:05Speaker 08

  And furthermore, when that happens, and it will,

• 24:16Speaker 08

  it will.

• 24:17Speaker 04

  Wow, no, look, look, look, look.

• 24:19Speaker 08

  Not only will we be insensitive,

• 24:24Speaker 08

  that'll be the least of worries.

• 24:26Speaker 04

  It's a real person.

• 24:29Speaker 04

  That is the devil inside of you. Look at her.

• 24:33Speaker 08

  It's gonna be the biggest fucking celebration, the biggest, most beautiful celebration on planet Earth.

• 24:44Speaker 04

  You can stop it. So, Pat, and just think about, and I know you guys feel this, and I know the viewers out there feel this, something is happening, okay? This pattern is undeniable. The transgender last week shot the kids that were praying in a church. The Ukrainian girl almost gets her head taken off. Nobody's doing anything about it, okay? Uh, if we get to the story, Pat, in Texas, an illegal immigrant chopped another legal immigrant. Head completely off and threw it in the garbage. And then we have Charlie, okay? Something is happening, okay? And I have a message for anybody sitting on the fence, okay? You're running out of time. You have to pick a side. And Tom, you nailed it. You have to pick the side of love. You have to pick the side of mercy. Because the other side is not giving up.

• 25:29Speaker 04

  But we can't stop, okay? And for those people, Pat, is the last thing that think that they're beyond saving. The people that think that they're all the way over here like God doesn't care. I'm gonna keep doing what I'm doing. Think about the thief that was crucified next to Jesus on the cross. He didn't have time to say, I'm sorry. He didn't have time to say anything. He just said, I believe. And Jesus said, you're gonna be with me.

• 25:49Adam Sosnick?

  This man has done nothing. We deserve our penalty.

• 25:51Speaker 04

  Yeah, so we're fighting the good fight. I want people to stay in it because we're gonna win. The best thing that you said to me. We're backstage and it all hit. We were at the Vault Conference. I walk in. Pat, you're standing in the green room and Charlie's shot and he's not looking good. And you looked right in my face and you go, they're not gonna win. And I had like a, I had a rush of like, like God, and this is a fight. We're in a battle and you gave me comfort in that moment, Pat? Because you looked right in my eyes and you go, it's on and we're not gonna lose. And that gave me comfort, so thank you.

• 26:23Adam Sosnick?

  Adam. Well, Elon Musk said that the Democrats are the party of murder. The left is the party of murder. And let me tell you something. Donald Trump used to always say things like, the radical left. It's all the radical left. And I, as someone who used to be on the left, I'd get so offended. Because that wasn't me. I wasn't a psychopath. I wasn't an extremist. But what I realized was this. It is the radical left. The radical left has been possessed. There's a sickness, there's a cancer, there's, there's genuine hate in their hearts. When you see two little kids in excitement for who they think that Trump got killed or JD Vance. No, it's Elon.

• 27:05Adam Sosnick?

  When you see, there's another story of someone that went to go to Office Depot.

• 27:10Speaker 04

  She was fired. Did you see that one?

• 27:11Adam Sosnick?

  They wanted to print out a memorial for Charlie.

• 27:14Speaker 04

  And what happened?

• 27:15Adam Sosnick?

  And they, she wouldn't do it. So the far left.

• 27:19Patrick Bet-David?

  We don't do propaganda, yeah.

• 27:20Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, so this lady right here, exactly. We don't do propaganda.

• 27:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Fired.

• 27:24Adam Sosnick?

  Here's the biggest problem.

• 27:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Play 20 seconds.

• 27:26Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, go ahead.

• 27:27Speaker 08

  Yeah, so we don't print propaganda. It's not pro- oh, so- It's propaganda, I'm sorry. We don't print that here. Alright, so, um, who are we here? What's your name?

• 27:36Speaker 11

  I'm Phil, I'm the supervisor.

• 27:38Speaker 08

  I'm one of the managers. Yes. So, unfortunately- So, if they say they don't print political propaganda-

• 27:45Adam Sosnick?

  She got fired.

• 27:47Speaker 08

  ... so this is somebody that passed away a couple of years ago- That's political propaganda.

• 27:49Adam Sosnick?

  Look at her.

• 27:49Speaker 08

  So, this is for a prayer tonight, for a prayer vigil? Mm-hmm, it's still propaganda, unfortunately. What makes it propaganda? Because he's a political figure and I don't have to- Press. Yeah.

• 28:01Speaker 11

  Our general manager's gonna be in on Monday?

• 28:03Speaker 08

  No, it's probably-

• 28:03Speaker 11

  If you want to speak further on the subject-

• 28:05Speaker 08

  Yeah, we have a lot of-

• 28:05Speaker 11

  Welcome to-

• 28:08Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, well, when someone shows you-

• 28:10Patrick Bet-David?

  And they tell you who they are, believe it.

• 28:10Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, exactly. Tom, you took the words right out of my mouth. When someone shows you who they are, believe them. So, here's my message to my Democratic friends out there. Unless you call this abhorrent behavior out, and unless you call this out, you are officially complicit. I see so many videos of people on the left parading, cheering, in excitement for the assassination and murder of Charlie Kirk, like it's a great thing. And I'm starting to see a little, very little, of people on the left saying, "I can't condone this. I'm a Democrat, but this is something I can't stand for." We need way more of that coming out of the Democratic Party, or you would be complicit in calling out

• 28:53Adam Sosnick?

  the disgusting behavior of the far-left progressive party that is the Democratic Party at this point.

• 29:00Patrick Bet-David?

  And, you know, Vinny, you're bringing that up. Both you and Tom, where you guys are at. These guys are not gonna win, because the most common quote you're hearing from everybody, this is the biggest sign that you lost the argument. What is the first step, number one? When you lose the argument, what do they start doing? Name-calling.

• 29:19Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 29:20Patrick Bet-David?

  This is the ultimate, this is the ultimate, that's above name-calling. "We can't beat you, I'm gonna take you out."

• 29:26Adam Sosnick?

  Yep.

• 29:26Patrick Bet-David?

  "Okay, we can't beat you, I'm gonna take you out." And by the way, so, Cash Patel just came out with a story, announcing that they found the DNA, that the towel matches, the firearm and the screwdriver both match Tyler Robinson. This is just a few minutes ago, Rob, if you wanna go ahead and play this clip.

• 29:45Speaker 12

  ...flexed all resources the FBI had and surged multiple air assets as soon as this shooting occurred. We were cycling in agents, evidence response technicians, hostage rescue technicians, and special operators in and out of Utah, cycling evidence back and forth on these FBI planes as soon as we could, so that there was no delay. And what we did, once I got there, along with the deputy on the ground, around 5:00 PM local on September 11th, was walk the entire crime scene, including the foot the suspect himself took. And what we learned was, there was evidence, DNA evidence, that could be collected and had been collected, including a screwdriver that was found on the rooftop.

• 30:27Speaker 12

  Also, we went over to the scene in the wooded area where the firearm was discarded, and the firearm had a towel wrapped around it. It's important, I'll get back to that later. I even walked into the wooded area in the ravine, so I knew, from my investigative experience, what I could bring to the table and what decisions I needed to make. And having the support of President Trump and the full support of the White House was what we needed for these resources to happen. And I can report today that the DNA hits from the towel that was wrapped around the firearm, and the DNA on the screwdriver are positively processed for the suspect in custody.

• 31:04Patrick Bet-David?

  There you go. So now that's what we're being told. Tom, when you see that, we learned this. What do you think about when you see this story, that Cash just said this?

• 31:13Tom Ellsworth?

  Cash is really selling it pretty hard.

• 31:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Are you buying it?

• 31:17Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm only about 50/50, and I'll tell you why. I believe my own eyes, and many people beside me, and I'm not talking about tin hat conspiracy theorists, are saying, "Does that look like a rifle, 44 inches long, being wrapped in a towel, or does that look like a jacket, or a piece of clothing, or something? Does that look... Where's the rifle in this person jumping off the top of the building? What's going on with that?" And then when he's walking like a peg leg through the community, the neighborhood, they said, "Oh, he shoved the rifle down leg of his pants, so he was having to walk that way." Okay, well, maybe I buy that, but I'm just shocked.

• 31:58Tom Ellsworth?

  And the other thing is, Cash Patel is patting all the FBI people on the back. But you had nothing! You had the wrong two suspects, one that you quickly dismissed, the other one you questioned and dismissed, and you, by your own admission, had no leads until the father that had been talking to a pastor worried about his son, and now we're hearing the leaks coming out from other family members and friends, this over the past year, he was a little different, Tyler was a little different, Tyler was getting a little dark, spent a lot of time on video games, and we see the Discord messages, all of those things, Pat, are lining up to show that this guy got kind of radicalized, and his dad apparently had been talking to a pastor,

• 32:40Tom Ellsworth?

  there's little comments that have leaked out that says, you know, what do I do here? And the dad and the pastor convinced him to turn himself in. That's not an FBI lead, that's a dad saying, I am not gonna, if this is what's happened, I am not gonna stand in the way here, I gotta do the right thing with my son. And so, I'm only about 50/50 on this official FBI story, and I'm a little worried about, it doesn't look like a gun being carried off the roof.

• 33:05Adam Sosnick?

  And apparently, this kid, Tyler Robinson, is not cooperating with authorities whatsoever. I know you showed an image of the Utah Governor, Spencer Cox, I believe his name, who basically said, "This is a watershed moment in American history, we just don't know if this is the end or beginning of a very dark chapter." I guess Tuesday is gonna be the day that formal charges are gonna be brought forward against this kid.

• 33:29Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 33:29Adam Sosnick?

  But they have said that he lived with his-

• 33:34Tom Ellsworth?

  Fur or whatever.

• 33:35Adam Sosnick?

  Or dated.

• 33:36Tom Ellsworth?

  Transgender.

• 33:37Adam Sosnick?

  And of cour- is anybody shocked that the word "trans" magically popped up?

• 33:41Tom Ellsworth?

  No.

• 33:41Adam Sosnick?

  That this was his roommate?

• 33:42Tom Ellsworth?

  No.

• 33:43Adam Sosnick?

  Is anybody shocked in that capacity?

• 33:44Tom Ellsworth?

  No, not at all. I mean, how many times in the past year, we talked about these people, if that's it? And like, again, Pat, I'm gonna go with, with Tom, where's the rifle? Where's a long rifle that's not, it's not collapsible, meaning it doesn't fold, he looks like-

• 33:59Adam Sosnick?

  Which is called a break barrel, right?

• 34:00Tom Ellsworth?

  It's a break barrel. He snapped his, either he sprained his ankle or something, it's just unanswered questions. And you know what nobody else was talking about? I think we did for a little bit, George Zinn, the old white guy, bald, with glasses, he's there, they grab him like a-

• 34:15Speaker 04

  diversion, okay, and he's screaming, kill me, kill me, and subsequently, and this is allegedly, but I think I fact check it, Rob, if you could fact check me on chat GPT, he, he was an eyewitness to nine eleven, which is weird, this guy, the old guy, and then he was arrested for threatening to bomb the Salt Lake City Marathon finish line in two thousand and thirteen. This is George Zinn, Z I N N. There's so many different things, and I get it, remember the old guy that was screaming?

• 34:42Adam Sosnick?

  No, no, no, I just want to emphasize what you're saying right now, and I believe me, I'm always the last person to be like, okay, buddy.

• 34:46Speaker 04

  That's the odds of that, and the billions.

• 34:48Adam Sosnick?

  They said that it's like point zero zero zero zero zero, seven percent likelihood that this guy was there for nine eleven.

• 34:55Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 34:55Adam Sosnick?

  He was there for Charlie Kirk's murder, and there was a third component, he was there for some.

• 35:00Speaker 04

  He, he was, I think he was arrested for terror, for terrorism, allegedly.

• 35:04Adam Sosnick?

  Listen, if there's anybody that doesn't go down the rabbit hole, it's me. This guy's got some explaining to do.

• 35:09Speaker 13

  That's, this is the guy that was drug out, and he was yelling, why don't you shoot me? Why don't you shoot me? I can find that clip and play it, but this is the nine eleven.

• 35:16Patrick Bet-David?

  And he was at nine eleven as well.

• 35:18Speaker 04

  He said he witnessed nine eleven.

• 35:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so if you look at, let me see it, Rob.

• 35:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Is he gonna be saying anything, or is it just?

• 35:27Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 35:30Speaker 14

  And so it was a huge event for us. I remembered everything that happened. We opened the stadium on September tenth, two thousand and one. And so, you know, I was, we won the Giants, which was good. I remember that was when Ed McCaffrey actually got hurt that night on a, on a season ending injury.

• 35:53Speaker 04

  I think he's talking about the Yankees?

• 35:54Speaker 14

  So I'm ready to go, leave the hotel.

• 35:57Speaker 04

  Giants, Giants.

• 35:58Speaker 14

  On September eleventh, early that morning, and go back to Salt Lake City. And they said, come down, look in the lobby, something's happening here. They said there's a plane that's headed towards one of the towers in.

• 36:11Patrick Bet-David?

  He was there and he was the guy that coming out saying, shoot me, shoot.

• 36:16Tom Ellsworth?

  Correct.

• 36:17Speaker 04

  Allegedly.

• 36:17Tom Ellsworth?

  When there's smoke, there's fire. Why is this guy around all these horrible moments?

• 36:22Speaker 04

  Somebody did the breakdown, Pat, and this is allegedly one in two billion that this guy was at Charlie's assassination, nine 11, and then Rob, I guess he was arrested.

• 36:33Tom Ellsworth?

  There was a third one, yeah.

• 36:33Speaker 04

  Yeah, well, he was arrested for something wrong, terrorism.

• 36:37Tom Ellsworth?

  This guy right here. Pat, when you, you're a leader and at times when you have crisis in a company or something happens, you have to come to the microphone and you get to cover what's going on. Sometimes it's layoffs, sometimes it's good news, right? When you hear Cash in that, do you hear him kind of overselling these points? Or you just hear a leader saying, I'm proud of my team, is what we did?

• 36:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I mean, this here, I have President Trump on Saturday praising Cash Patel for the remarkable speed in the bureaus. Identified, captured Charlie Kirk's assassin Tyler Roberts in a 22 years, which was napped. In hometown of Washington, Utah, just 33 hours after he was, he allegedly shot Kirk from a rooftop on the campus of Utah Valley University. So Trump's giving him credit. Cash is coming up here. His job is to show urgency with the fact that they caught somebody to lower the temperature. Tom, their number one job right now as an administration is to lower the temperature. Number one, one thing goes wrong, it's over. By the way, you know how when you see these fires in California that happen? And it takes them weeks to try to stop the fires?

• 37:42Patrick Bet-David?

  And what happens? Imagine we are living at a time, we have the most advanced technology ever. We have the most advanced tools ever. The fires are being done a mile away, 200 yards away from an ocean. And you can't stop the fire? If you thought for a second, the wildfires in California were tough to stop? Wait till you see what happens if something happens on the opposing side. This will be wildfires on steroids. Trust me. All they want to do right now is to show to the American people that they're under control and they got everything figured out. That is all they're trying to do. That is their number one job to go out there and try to, uh, uh, control this part. But what story were we just talking about, Tom, before you brought up Cash Patel?

• 38:24Tom Ellsworth?

  George Zinn.

• 38:25Patrick Bet-David?

  I feel like we, okay, George Zinn. So I pulled up right now, said, can you tell me the history about George Zinn? Rob, if you can go on, uh, Chad GPT and just ask, what do we know about George Zinn, the guy who kept screaming, shoot me at Charlie Kirk's event? 71 years old, from Utah, he's been known as Gad Fly. is what many refer him to. His background and behavior history. Long history of disruptions. He'd been arrested multiple times for actions at public events dating back decades. These including trespassing protesting and causing disruptions. 2013 bomb threat. In that year, he made a bomb threat targeting Salt Lake City Marathon, which resulted in a you're in prison. That's this guy. Mental health concerns. Legal officials have described him as odd and have recommended mental health evaluations in the past,

• 39:10Patrick Bet-David?

  though he has largely resisted or ignored them. Local familiarity. Many in Utah recognize him immediately after Charlie Kirk shooting. He's known for showing up to at nearly every kind of political gatherings. That's what this guy's known for. So I don't know if he's a disruptor or if he's anything or not. Here's all I will tell you. That's what he does. You know, when, when, and I, and I, and I'm, by the way, when I said, who's the guy in the back? Who is this? And who is that guy? People started messaging me. That's a friend. That's a pastor. That's the same guy that was protecting the president. I've been on calls with a bunch of people that are trying to give me the insight from the back on intel calling me. Pat, we want to kind of give you a little bit more insight on what's going on. I got a call right after this podcast to talk to a few different people to see what's going on. I trust

• 39:54Patrick Bet-David?

  that they're moving quickly to get answers to these questions. But one guy connects me and he says, why is it that if you, if you got people on rooftops and you got a guy like Kirk, who is a top three person who helped Trump get elected? Say you put Musk on that list. You put him on that list. You put RFK say on that list because that was a big tipping point when RFK came on this side and came out in Arizona at Charlie Kirk's event, by the way. Yes. Just so you guys know, at Charlie Kirk's event. So when you see these things and you're not doing a sweep of, you mean to tell me, find the highest ground to go to the rooftop and just look what binoculars, is anybody there? Is anybody there?

• 40:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Like you can't hire five people to be at a rooftop to look at the other. I mean, so, so for us, for example, we're at the Vault Conference. I don't want to publicly show this video, but if you guys want to see this video, go to Circle. I'll put it on the PBD Podcast Circle. When all of a sudden, we're in the middle of the event, Vinnie, you just sent this to me, Vinnie recorded this thing. So, we're at the event, and when this event happens, security comes and says, "You can't go up on stage." I said, "I'm going on stage." So, what's your alternative? "Well, if you're gonna go on stage, we have to bring Sheriff, M16 and all." I said, "Do whatever you gotta do. I'm going on on stage." Instantly, security alert went up. My kids are walking in the back, and we're like, "Why is it taking so long for us? I just want to go to the bathroom." Totally get it. They gotta sweep the perimeter. So, they're going out there. They're looking at everything. You saw this

• 41:23Patrick Bet-David?

  right in front of us. I'm in the bathroom with four guys around the bathroom with M16s that are, you know, looking around, and then you got these security that are former Delta guys, SEALs, all these guys that are there, you know, Green Beret. I, I, I just, it just takes me back. The glass is one. It's a must. The bulletproof glass. It's a must to have that. I'm, I'm for, because guess what? So, you know what people are looking at right now? How many more mentally ill George Zins or crazies like Tyler Robinsons are out there right now? How many? Unfortunately, way too many. No, but it's way more than one today, Tom. Right, but at any particular moment. You're right. But what I'm saying to you is the following. Here's what I'm saying

• 42:05Patrick Bet-David?

  to you. You know Tyler is permanently gonna be in the history books. His name is cemented in the history books. Forever. Exactly. So, think about somebody else is like, "Okay, I want it as well. Who's my target?" You don't think they're thinking that? Yeah, they have. You don't think they're sitting there thinking that? So, to me, uh, um, you know, again, if you can't beat them, mock them, use words. But the ultimate, if you can't beat them, take them out. And, and now you're seeing this taking place, and more and more people are saying things like this, where, "Hey, commenting on this happened, that happened, this happened?" Yeah, I don't know. I think right now, for me, I'm thinking, what Cash's

• 42:48Patrick Bet-David?

  job is with the President, to lower the temperature. Even the other day, the President's being asked, "So, what do you think about Charlie Kirkshurst? Don't you love the building that we're building over here? Look at the structure that we're building." One can only process that in two or three different ways. One of them is what? Tone deaf. Tone deaf cold. Completely doesn't, yeah. Right. Tone deaf cold. I think that's the 37 second one, right? Watch this.

• 43:09Speaker 15

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• 43:38Speaker 08

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• 43:40Speaker 16

  Witness the beginning of the revolution.

• 43:43Speaker 08

  Hey Mitch, you've been trying to take down these games from the start.

• 43:46Speaker 16

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• 43:47Speaker 10

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• 43:50Speaker 16

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• 44:00Speaker 04

  How are you holding up?

• 44:02Speaker 14

  I think very good. And by the way, right there, you see all the trucks? They've just started construction of the new bolo for the White House, which is something they've been trying to get, as you know, for about 150 years.

• 44:13Speaker 04

  I don't know about that. Okay.

• 44:18Speaker 04

  I'm not a fan of that at all. Like, condolences to your friend.

• 44:22Patrick Bet-David?

  But let me tell you how I process this. I process two or three different ways. One is tone deaf, which is what you said. What's the other one?

• 44:28Speaker 04

  The other one is show the enemy that it's not bothering us. We're moving on.

• 44:32Patrick Bet-David?

  What's the third one? Deflection, distraction. Like, I don't even want to put attention to it because he knows, deep down inside. And by the way, you know what President Trump's also probably thinking about? Let me tell you what else he's probably thinking about. Let me tell you what else he's probably thinking about. And I put myself, 90% is thinking about this. He's sitting there realizing. Because let me put it to you this way. You tell me what presidents died that got this level of attention.

• 45:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Actually go back and think about presidents that died. When is the last time a person died in America? Where you got this type of reception?

• 45:12Adam Sosnick?

  MLK, JFK.

• 45:14Patrick Bet-David?

  No, the closest one is Kobe is the recent one.

• 45:16Adam Sosnick?

  Kobe, yes.

• 45:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Helicopter crash.

• 45:18Adam Sosnick?

  Yep.

• 45:19Patrick Bet-David?

  But tell me in our lifetime, forty-five, forty-six, forty-seven years. In your lifetime, what has gotten this Roberto Clemente plane crash? Two thousand nine hundred ninety-seven hits or ninety-eight hits, something like that, right? He almost had it, plane crash, Puerto Rican, I think it was Puerto Rican, if I'm not mistaken.

• 45:37Adam Sosnick?

  He's going down to help relieve.

• 45:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Monson, Thurman.

• 45:40Adam Sosnick?

  The catcher for the Yankees.

• 45:42Patrick Bet-David?

  For the Yankees, which nineteen seventy something. Right, Cessna crash, right, or whatever, and I even think he was operating.

• 45:47Adam Sosnick?

  There's only one that's at this level in our lifetime, that's Princess Di. The world stopped when Princess Diana.

• 45:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay.

• 45:53Adam Sosnick?

  Good, good, yeah, I'm just saying.

• 45:54Patrick Bet-David?

  And I'm with you, you're right.

• 45:55Adam Sosnick?

  Okay.

• 45:56Patrick Bet-David?

  But, but presidents didn't get this types of attention.

• 45:59Adam Sosnick?

  No, no.

• 46:00Patrick Bet-David?

  So what does this tell you? President Trump is sitting there saying, wow. This guy's bigger than I even thought.

• 46:07Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, well.

• 46:08Patrick Bet-David?

  He himself, I guarantee you, by the way, let me put it to you this way. If right now, any living president passed away, I'm willing to bet. It's not going to be received the way this was.

• 46:21Adam Sosnick?

  No, not even close.

• 46:23Patrick Bet-David?

  So the question becomes, if you know it's this level, do you not think he knows? How fast this thing can go? You can't, there's certain things in life you cannot stop. You can't stop wildfires. You cannot stop a, a, a earthquake in the middle of the ocean that turns into a what?

• 46:43Adam Sosnick?

  Tsunami.

• 46:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Guess what, guys, you got two hours, get the hell away from the ocean, it's coming, right? We've seen this videos, families at the beach relaxing, all of a sudden you see water goes?

• 46:53Adam Sosnick?

  Yep.

• 46:53Patrick Bet-David?

  And guess what, oh shit, what sign is that?

• 46:55Adam Sosnick?

  Coming back.

• 46:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Get out, right? Their number one job, behind the scenes, lower the temperature ASAP. So whether it's Tyler Robinson, his roommate is transgender, we're being told maybe they were dating, maybe this, maybe that.

• 47:11Patrick Bet-David?

  All these stories that are coming out, and here's the governor giving a little bit of an update, go for it, Rob. This is from Utah.

• 47:16Speaker 17

  Some outlets are reporting that the suspect lived with a transgender partner. Is that accurate and are investigators looking at this part of his life as a possible motivation?

• 47:28Speaker 18

  Yes, definitely. And yes, I can confirm that. I know that has been reported and that the FBI has confirmed that as well, that the roommate was a romantic partner, a male transitioning to female. I can say that he has been very cooperative. This partner has been incredibly cooperative, had no idea that this was happening, and is working with investigators right now.

• 47:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so, there you have it.

• 47:57Adam Sosnick?

  Well, I just want to address one thing about Trump. You know, there's character assassinations which we see online every single day, every single second. And then there's actual assassinations where you murder somebody in cold blood. There's two people in the world right now, in America, who are very familiar with what's going on here. One is Donald Trump, because, let's be real here, if Trump didn't move to the left and look at that graph, we would have a president, or a former president, whose face got shot off in the middle of public, just like what happened with Charlie Kirk. So if there's somebody that knows a thing or two of what Charlie has dealt with, or Charlie's family has dealt with, it's Trump.

• 48:38Adam Sosnick?

  The second person, and I just want to just give so much credit, and just a massive outpouring of affection to Charlie's wife, Erica, the speech she gave, if you didn't see this speech, it'll make you tremble. She said, "The cries of this widow will echo through the world like a battle cry." You tell me you don't want to have a wife like that, that has your back. It is infectious how much she cares, and how much she believes in what Charlie's mission was. It's insane. So, I just want to take a second for that.

• 49:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, we had the whole family sitting there watching this. And the way she looked at the camera, and a small little story, she says, "Go Ducks," you know, all the little things. It was as if, honestly, it seemed like as if it was her... Doing a broadcast for only one person and he was watching and it's him. That's what it felt like. It didn't feel like she was talking to us. It felt like he's watching from the heaven saying, babe, I'm talking to you.

• 49:40Speaker 04

  And what a, what a, what a moment. And in that moment, like when it happened, I kept telling Tom too. I go, what is, what is, because it was the next day. I go, what is Erica's next day like? Kids, family, media, and that, her being able to speak, bro, shows God will never give you anything that you can't handle. And she was living proof of it. God bless her.

• 50:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, let's, let's go to a couple of other stories here. So here's now people, uh, you know how I keep saying you have to lower the temperature ASAP? Here's what's happening if you don't. Okay. One, you got, uh, uh, uh, Nick Fuentes says his followers framed in Charlie Kirk's shooting. So what is a griper? That's one story, right? Then you have another story that's coming up that talks about, um, the number of words with Israel. I don't know what page that's on, Rob. 10,000 words, 10,000, um, Adam, that was one of the stories that you chose.

• 50:40Adam Sosnick?

  10,000 conspiracy theories have exploded is what it was.

• 50:43Speaker 13

  Page five.

• 50:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, page five. So let me read both of them. So over one, over 10,000 posts, oh, that's Nick Fuentes. Okay. My followers and I are currently being framed for the murder of Charlie Kirk by the mainstream media bias. Based on literally zero evidence after the left gunned him down. They celebrated and justified it. They said, I was next. Now they're blaming me. These people are evil. What is that, Rob? What is a griper like, uh, uh, oh, that's.

• 51:08Speaker 13

  That's a Google trend search of how many people were searching the term griper.

• 51:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Because that's his following. That's what they call like, okay, got it. So then you have this other story here of, uh, over 10,000 posts. Tie Charlie Kirk's murder to Israel as conspiracy theories explode online ADL, uh, report. Uh, let me see this one here.

• 51:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Anti Semitic conspiracy theories, is there a video on this one, Rob?

• 51:32Speaker 13

  So it's just a montage of different videos that people are highlighting about. This one was everywhere.

• 51:38Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, a bunch of people texted me asking, is this real or not? Bunch of people, and I'm talking big names.

• 51:44Speaker 13

  Yes.

• 51:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Bunch of people like, is this, did they really take this video down? This was the moment, Rob, if you want to play this clip, this was on our podcast. This is October 8th, October 10th, I mean, it's like literally a day after or two days after. You want to play this clip, Rob?

• 51:58Speaker 19

  I've been to Israel many times, the whole country is a fortress. When I first heard this story, I still have the same gut instinct that I did initially. I find this very hard to believe. I've been to that Gaza border. You cannot go 10 feet without running into a 19 year old with an AR-15 or an automatic machine gun that is an IDF soldier, right? The whole country is surveilled. And so, so let me, let me just kind of go through this. We don't talk about Israeli politics very often, and most Americans don't know this. The last nine months, Israel was on the brink of civil war. It's not an exaggeration. This judicial stuff, there were, there were hundreds of thousands of Israelis taking to the streets because Bibi Netanyahu is basically redefining the Israeli constitution. That's not an exaggeration, right? He said the judicial branch has too much power.

• 52:42Speaker 19

  There were protests planned this week against Netanyahu, where they anticipated tens of thousands of people to take to the streets. That's all gone, Patrick. Netanyahu now has an emergency government and a mandate to lead. I'm not, I'm not willing to say, to go so far that saying that Netanyahu knew or there was intelligence here, but I think some questions need to be asked.

• 53:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay. Pause right there. Was that unfair? I think that's a very fair assessment of what he's asking, right? Let me read this to you. Anti Semitic conspiracy theories have exploded on social media in the aftermath of Charlie Kirk's killing, with thousands of posts blaming the assassination on Israel, according to an Anti-Defamation League report on Friday. Since the 31 year old conservative activist brutal killing on Wednesday, there have been over 10,000 posts on X alone linking it to Israel. The report said Kirk, co-founder of Turning Point USA, conservative organization, became a major political figure for young. Okay. So these are, these are stories. You got two of them, right? The one story is Groypers, guys are posting saying Nick.

• 53:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Charli Kirk a month ago and now he's speaking positively about him. And then the other one saying, no, this is Israel and all the blame that they're putting because of that clip. Of him on our podcast saying he called that Israel and because of that he was taken out. Adam, your thoughts on this story here?

• 53:55Adam Sosnick?

  Well, let me just say this, Israel has no greater ally than Charlie Kirk. As far as someone who is Christian, American and defends Israel now. You have to understand, he's not blindly following. The Bibi Netanyahu doctrine and Israel can do no wrong. He will criticize Israel's government, just like he'll criticize the American government. That's what gets lost in the shuffle here, just because you criticize. A government doesn't mean you don't believe in the country or the people. We criticize the American government all the time. I'd you'd be hard pressed to find a group of patriots that love America more than the people in this room. So just because you criticize somebody doesn't mean that you are not on their side.

• 54:40Adam Sosnick?

  So as far as the conspiracy theories that have just popped up out of nowhere. Let me just tell you, I don't think Nick Fuentes had anything to do with this whatsoever. And now he feels like what he understands what it feels like to be Jewish in this world and everything goes to. What I would call the little boy that cried Israel. So, you know, the internet goes out, oh, it's probably Mossad. Your favorite team loses the game, here's something that that came up online. Pop said Israel rigged his team to lose. Sorry, bro, your team just lost the game. Your girlfriend breaks up with you. Sorry, bro, it wasn't Israel. If you want to look for the easiest low hanging explanation, just blame Israel. We've seen it time and time again.

• 55:24Adam Sosnick?

  It's perfectly okay to criticize Netanyahu and Israel and the government actions. Where you get into hot water is when you start blaming everything on the Jews. Do better.

• 55:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, Adam, I'm sorry, Vinnie.

• 55:37Speaker 04

  Yeah, no, I, and here's the thing, and you guys know, I criticize everybody from our government with Bush, when I was in during September 11th and all the question, mind you, Charlie's assassination literally overshadowed, nobody even we did at the event, but it's as if 9/11, the, the flags were half-mast, but, I mean, still, the unanswered questions with that. But when it comes to the Israel thing, I, like, when people just shout out, and my point being, I'm critical of Israel, I'm critical of everybody. But for the people that are just blaming Israel, okay, how? Tell me, like, instead of just going out there going, "Yeah, they, they're behind it", how do they do it? So you mean to tell me Israel got to Tyler, who's in the trans boyfriend, whatever, and made him, talked him into going on a roof,

• 56:21Speaker 04

  and shooting Charlie, jumping off the roof, and running and hiding, even though all the backstory with the father and all that? When, I, I think it's getting lazy to where you're just gonna shoot out Israel. Give me facts, and by the way, I'll go with you. I'm one of the, how, how many times have I talked about October 7th, saying, "Listen, give me the answers"? You guys mean to tell me that area, was there a stand-down order? What, what happened? I still, remember, who was it? Uh, John Kirby was like, "Now's not the time". Okay, when is the time? Put that aside. Give me the plan of how Israel got to this guy who's obviously messed up in the head with his trans boyfriend and did it. Don't just shoot it out. Give me facts, and then I'll listen to your argument. If not, it's weak, period.

• 57:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, so Rob, is this the clip between, uh, uh, August and September, uh, why they're blaming, uh, Nick? Go ahead and play this clip.

• 57:08Speaker 11

  We had our disagreements. Where we did agree is that he would go to these college campuses and proclaim the name of Jesus Christ. And ultimately, that is why he was killed. The gunmen that killed him, they hated him because of his defense of Christian morality. Charlie Kirk cannot call himself a Christian anymore. Sorry, you forfeited that. I do not want to hear, and you cannot allow. Charlie Kirk to go to one more public event? One more question and answer, one more ask me anything? Without being protested, without being shouted down, without being interrogated about this?

• 57:52Speaker 11

  This guy goes around from campus to campus in the most artificial and phony and fake way talking about, "Oh, God, God made me very blessed that I control $500 million. Oh, I'm so blessed, I'm so rich and I'm so blessed and oh, God's been so good to me. I'm such a Christian. Oh, the Lord, I, the Lord gave me the Sabbath. I take Saturday off." You sit there and call yourself a Christian and then you make excuses.

• 58:22Patrick Bet-David?

  So to me, this is, I don't think he had anything to do with it. I don't think Israel had anything to do with it. I don't think. Make the argument, I'm very open to it. I don't think, I think this kid has mental issues. But I do think it could be a reflection of words that was said. I do think it could be a reflection of things that were said. Now, I will tell you one part of this that makes me very uncomfortable. Okay, let me, let me go and find this story. Rob, if you can find it from Musk. Musk had a tweet that said, um, of a guy that said, you know, they're not, they're not doing this.

• 59:04Patrick Bet-David?

  You have to find it. It has to do with something with calling you a Nazi and a fascist. Okay, if you find that quote, that's exactly the quote that, to me, explains what's going on. Because if you keep calling these people fascists and Hitlers and Nazis and all this other stuff, that is your way of putting a target on their back to get in them to get killed. That's what you do, okay, when you put these types of words. There's a retweet that he did, I can't find it right now, I wish I could find it, of what they're saying and what they're doing with it. But you know what makes it kind of weird? Rob, I just, I just sent you a tweet. This is what makes it weird. Okay, that I myself, a guy that doesn't believe Israel's behind it,

• 59:47Patrick Bet-David?

  a guy that doesn't believe Fuentes is behind it, I don't believe that's the case. I, I'm not comfortable with that. Rob, if you can pull up this tweet that I just sent you. As much as I'm not comfortable with that, Marco Rubio goes to Israel at this time, and they push a bill to strip passports over Israel criticism? Why? And by the way, remember, I'm not a guy that's... What do you mean US lawmakers push bill to strip passports over Israel criticism? New bill, Congress let Senator Rubio revoke US passports in order to criticize Israel. This intercepted proposal came, comes after Rubio already revoked visas and green cards of foreign nationals. I understand, including a Turkish student who wrote an op-ed. I get that, the Turkish student.

• 1:00:33Patrick Bet-David?

  It was a little bit deeper than that. The bill cites material supports for terrorism, but critics warn this vague language could be twisted, punished, speech protest, or even journalism. To me, this is when it's gray for me. This is when it's gray for me. This is when it gets a little bit too much for me. When I cannot criticize. Don't get me wrong. Remember what I said earlier. If you celebrated a person getting assassinated, you should get fired. Because you're not fully mentally there. No, by the way, if anybody here,

• 1:01:08Patrick Bet-David?

  anybody here celebrates a person getting murdered, who is on the left or right, a person like a Charlie Kirk. I don't even want to give the names to make a comparison, because that to me, words have so much power that I just think opposite side. If anybody here that works around me celebrates the assassination on anybody, I don't want you around me. I'm telling you this myself. I don't want you around me. You know, our kids in school, you hear, my kids are somewhere around, some other kids that you go into these like, I had to go in the morning. One of my kids had a, what do you call it? Sporting event I had to go to early in the morning, 6 o'clock in the morning, right after the vault.

• 1:01:52Patrick Bet-David?

  And then my other kid had another sporting thing I had to go to at 12 o'clock. Two different cities that I had to go to. And I go there and I see how kids are talking. And you know, one of the kids was talking in a certain way, dropping the N-word, and he's a white guy. I'm like, listen, guys, let me simplify something for you. Take all the papas you've ever gone in your life. And you don't want to see what happened if you use language like this. We don't use language like this. I don't like language like that. This is me. You don't have to like it. Well, that's not freedom of speech. No, words have power.

• 1:02:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Stop dropping words as if they don't have power. They do. So my only issue and the timing of this is. Is it just that? Because I actually like what Whitlock said. I want to give Whitlock some credit, Rob. I got a video there about Whitlock. I don't know if you pulled that one up. And here's what Whitlock said. This is why Charlie Kirk was different. He says, hey, a lot of people are saying they're going to continue to mantle. Vinny, you may want to look at this one here. And he says the following. Go ahead. I think this is a very good breakdown. You can tell it by his eyes. The guy hasn't slept for days. Go ahead and play the clip.

• 1:02:58Speaker 20

  When I hear people say, hey, I'm gonna go out and pick up Charlie Kirk's bloodstained microphone and continue what he's doing. Well, that sounds like someone, Ben Shapiro, is saying he's gonna hit college campuses and proclaim Jesus Christ as his Lord and Savior. If you're not going to do that, you're not picking up Charlie Kirk's mic. You're picking up your mic. Charlie's mic proclaimed and professed the name of Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior. And that's what we all need to be doing.

• 1:03:31Patrick Bet-David?

  And I'm with that. I am too. By the way, I love that Ben is willing to do it. Do you believe Ben is serious when he says he's gonna go out there and do it? Oh, for sure. For sure, he's gonna do it. And do you think Ben is a guy that's capable of doing this? He's one of the OG guys. Of course. That used to do this kind of stuff. Him and Steven Crowder. That's right. And so these guys, him, Crowder, all these guys, they know how to do this. But to me, it's a little bit suspect when you go in there and then all of a sudden it's this and Bibi's constantly tweeting about the relationship with you and Charlie Kirk. Got it. One time I get it, two, it's just, leave it alone. You're bringing too much attention to it. Okay? Privately, once, totally get it, move on. I just think you're bringing negative attention to it at a time like this to show that.

• 1:04:10Patrick Bet-David?

  So for me, as I'm hearing stories like this, I don't think it's Nick. I don't think it's Israel. I think it's lazy to go after both of them. I don't, all of that. But Jason's message right there.

• 1:04:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Who is gonna go there? This guy was a modern day Billy Graham meets Rush Limbaugh. That's what I kept saying. I wanted him to keep flourishing. And by the way, when I'm talking to my son and he had a hard time one night, he just had, it's been a very challenging last couple of days from one of my kids. Because he was a big, he met Charlie and you were there when he met Charlie. So to him, he's a guy and we were talking, I said, "Listen, man, let me explain something to you." Sometimes in life, when something happens that you have no answer to, that you literally don't have any answers to, that's when you lean on God. I said, "I don't have the answer for you, buddy. I'm not God. I don't know what to tell you. I literally don't, the only answer I have for you is,

• 1:05:05Patrick Bet-David?

  let's get on our knees and pray." And we got on our knees and it was awesome. The way he prayed, the way Dilly prayed, I prayed, it was great. Moments like this, I'm with Whitlock. I hope more guys go on the road to talk about Christianity. I recommended two books to this guy this morning that I was talking, I said, "Of course, set aside the Bible, Case for Christ."

• 1:05:35Speaker 04

  By Lee Strobel, amazing book.

• 1:05:37Patrick Bet-David?

  And Mere Christianity. Go read those two books. Those are good books to start off with. Case for Christ, Mere Christianity by C.S. Lewis, who wrote Chronicles of Narnia. The guy was a professor at Oxford, there's a very good movie made about him, but, Adam, I think you want to say something.

• 1:05:52Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, well, I think Christians need to step up. As someone who's Jewish, you know, Jews are .02% of the world. We're 2% of America, we're not trying to take over anything. I would love to see Christians return back to the church. I would love to see Christians get back to Jesus. The people in my life that... Go to church that are Christians. They're some of the best people I know. The problem we have in society is the degradation of a lack of Christianity, a lack of God, a lack of moral clarity, a lack of patriotism, woke-ism, and Marxism, and trans-ism, and Islamism, and all these isms have taken the place of something that should just be Christianity.

• 1:06:38Adam Sosnick?

  So Charlie Kirk, apparently he was coming out with this book that's already a bestseller. It was called "Stop in the Name of God: Why Honoring the Sabbath Will Transform Your Life", which is about why he, on Friday nights, the Sabbath, shuts down, turns everything off, and spends time with his family. So Charlie Kirk was a Christian, don't get it twisted, but he honored both books, the Old Testament, which are the five books of Moses, and the New Testament, the teachings of Jesus. So it doesn't have to be mutually exclusive. I would love to see Christians follow Charlie's lead. There's no better role model for young men than Charlie Kirk, period.

• 1:07:18Patrick Bet-David?

  I agree. He's a phenomenal role model to follow, and I think it's going to continue happening as this is going on. By the way, NFL. So the first sports team, I believe, that recognized the assassination of Charlie Kirk was the great Yankees, okay? I send the leadership team a message, absolute respect. They stopped. President Trump showed up. He and Aaron Judge even had a moment together. Then comes the NFL. And the NFL teams, it wasn't five that recognized him. Not 10, not 15, not 20, not 25. Majority of NFL teams recognized Charlie Kirk, except for five teams. Rob, go ahead and play the clip if you could. So this is the Dallas Cowboys, okay?

• 1:08:02Patrick Bet-David?

  You're seeing Charlie Kirk up top.

• 1:08:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Middle of the game, and look at the reaction. By the way, what percentage of that audience you think are conservatives?

• 1:08:15Adam Sosnick?

  In Dallas?

• 1:08:16Patrick Bet-David?

  In Dallas.

• 1:08:17Adam Sosnick?

  Probably ninety?

• 1:08:18Patrick Bet-David?

  In a football game? Nope. Seventy percent, maybe? I, I think you're, I don't, I don't think you've lived in Dallas long enough. You lived in a, uh,

• 1:08:24Adam Sosnick?

  Come on.

• 1:08:25Patrick Bet-David?

  You lived in Addison. I would say it's, no, if you're saying there, I don't know, Tom.

• 1:08:29Adam Sosnick?

  At a football game on a Sunday, what do you think the percentage is?

• 1:08:31Patrick Bet-David?

  I would put a sixty forty.

• 1:08:32Adam Sosnick?

  Wow, really?

• 1:08:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Would you agree, Tom?

• 1:08:34Adam Sosnick?

  I would completely agree.

• 1:08:35Patrick Bet-David?

  And by the way, I don't, I don't think the forty is like leftist.

• 1:08:38Adam Sosnick?

  No.

• 1:08:38Patrick Bet-David?

  I just think it's pro-choice people that are on the left, because when you live in Dallas, you think everyone's conservative? They're not.

• 1:08:44Adam Sosnick?

  No, no, no, they're not.

• 1:08:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Just so you know that, they're not, so.

• 1:08:46Adam Sosnick?

  Especially closer you get to downtown, in any city.

• 1:08:48Patrick Bet-David?

  No, they're not. I mean, there's, some of the biggest gay communities are in Dallas, Texas, so it's not like you don't have that. So for that to take place, it was impressive to see these teams. And then you had a handful of teams that didn't do it. One of them is the Lions, the other one is the, uh, Ravens, the other one is the Cincinnati Bengals, that didn't do it. Yeah, and then you have Colts didn't do it, and I think it's one other team.

• 1:09:14Adam Sosnick?

  Vikings.

• 1:09:14Patrick Bet-David?

  The Vikings that didn't do it. Go figure.

• 1:09:16Adam Sosnick?

  Go figure. Detroit didn't, they were influenced by their communities.

• 1:09:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I know, so, so, but what's, what's interesting-

• 1:09:24Adam Sosnick?

  This is it, Indianapolis Colts, Cincinnati Bengals, Detroit Lions, Baltimore Ravens, and then the Minnesota Vikings.

• 1:09:28Patrick Bet-David?

  So when you're seeing some of these teams that don't, some, some let's say three, some say they're five, some say four, but I saw five, majority of the places, and I'm surprised some of these guys that didn't do it. But here's what Joe Burrow did. Joe Burrow's foundation removes board member over Charlie Kirk remarks, okay? Joe Burrow removes board, his, his charity, that I don't even think, uh, Rob, if you can pull up the story, if you have that, I don't know if there's any kind of clips or stuff that you have. But Bengals quarterback Joe Burrow charitable foundation has removed a member of its board of directors in response to comments the board member made following the assassination of Charlie Kirk. Uh, uh, Hamilton County Municipal Court Judge Ted Berry posted comments on Facebook. The Joe Burrow Foundation was founded on the belief that everyone has a responsibility to do good.

• 1:10:12Patrick Bet-David?

  The group announced in a statement on Twitter, "We have terminated an advisory board member that made inappropriate remarks in light, in light of the recent events, and they no longer associated with the foundation." The comments, their comments do not reflect our values and our mission. We are committed to accountability and respect for all." Rob, what is the comment that the person made? Said Barry in a statement in Cincinnati Inquirer, "I regret if I caused division. That was not my intent, and I hope there can be peace." There have been, uh, separate calls for Barry to resign his position on the bench, which he has held since 2005. He said he will retire with, when his current team term ends in January of 2026. Rest in hatred and division, Ted Berry. America is so divided on Charlie Kirk, but I'm still open to learn more. Ted Berry, he spewed hate and division.

• 1:10:55Patrick Bet-David?

  How's he feel about gun violence and gun control in hell now? I've never seen that. The only thing that I've seen was his debates on college campuses. Ted Berry, he spewed hate, division, and racism. Because of him, now many black colleges are receiving hateful bomb threats. Uh, uh, John, I wasn't sure of all that. I guess I'm shocked and do not understand. I can't read the cameras hiding the other one. The laughing and jeering going on in the internet today. Boom, the guy got fired. So even though the Bengals didn't recognize him, Ted Berry got fired, who was a board member on Joe Burrow's charity that he had. Adam, your thoughts on the story?

• 1:11:29Adam Sosnick?

  Well, I, the, the five teams that did not honor Charlie Kirk's legacy, and take a moment of silence, what are you guys thinking? You're, the NFL, I mean, talk about the backlash the NFL received for, uh, Colin Kaepernick and kneeling during the flag. Here's a, a voice for peace and a voice for America and a voice for Christendom, and you're not even gonna have the, the decorum to honor him?

• 1:11:56Adam Sosnick?

  I mean, where are we at in society that you think that is going to be controversial? Just like with TMZ with Harvey Levin. Do you not think that people are going to start asking questions being like, what was going on in the back there with that car chase, buddy? Let's, let's see some receipts. You're TMZ. I'm sure there's cameras everywhere. And then anybody that saw the video realized, nah, there's, there's nothing new with the car chase. So, perfect. You see, you see the signs in the NFL end zones, exactly. End racism, stop the hate. How about doing your part to acknowledge the fact that this guy was not a racist? This was somebody that loved all types of people. If you haven't seen Charlie Kirk's clips, talking to gay people, talking to trans people, trying to embrace them and say, listen, I feel for you, then you're looking at the wrong messages.

• 1:12:40Adam Sosnick?

  My mom, this weekend, she goes, what, what should I know about Charlie Kirk? I said, tell me what you've heard about Charlie Kirk. She goes, well, I've seen things online that he's a very nice guy, but then my friend said that, that he said not nice things about black women. I said, show me where? She goes, oh, maybe it was about Michelle Obama. I said, show me the clip, mom. She goes, no, maybe just a friend who told me something about something. And I proceeded to send my mom, who I love, and she's like the sweetest person, literally 50 clips of Charlie Kirk and what he stood for. And she's like, honey, I had no idea. So the problem is this, is that people that see one clip, they just completely go down the rabbit hole of what they think this person is.

• 1:13:22Adam Sosnick?

  So I don't understand why these NFL teams did not choose, five NFL teams choose to show love to Charlie, but these five NFL teams have explaining to do.

• 1:13:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Hey, Tom, what do you think?

• 1:13:33Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, Minnesota is catering to its hyper liberal constituents there. Detroit is catering to its high Muslim influence there. And they were, both those teams were scared to do anything, in my opinion. It really seems so. They wouldn't come to the microphone, wouldn't talk about it. So in my opinion, Tom's opinion, seeing all that is pretty easy to, to make an assumption there, assumption. Baltimore, you know, uh, yeah, that's going to be a little touchy. There's racial relations back and forth there. And you look at Indian Cincy, I don't understand. Is that just the position of the ownership? But this is terrible. Could five teams have opted out of the BLM moment of silence?

• 1:14:18Tom Ellsworth?

  Absolutely not. Correct. So why does the league, you know, say, well, it's all up to you, you do it in this case? It just shows that. But guess what? The people spoke. The, and, and some teams did it tremendously well. Do you see what Pittsburgh Steelers did? They lowered the flag to half mast and they had military helicopters fly over, almost like it was like a head of state. And the people in Pittsburgh, it was incredibly loud in Pittsburgh when it came by. Look at this. Is this Pittsburgh? Yes.

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• 1:15:54Speaker 04

  Tom, that's the difference of people that love the country and that people that absolutely hate America.

• 1:15:58Tom Ellsworth?

  Exactly. So that's what I look at. I look at who wants to get behind, it's, you know, they like to say, well, if you don't get behind BLM, you're going to find yourself on the wrong side of history. Remember, people used to say that?

• 1:16:10Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:16:11Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, guess what?

• 1:16:12Speaker 04

  Pulsing in black squares.

• 1:16:13Tom Ellsworth?

  They're on the wrong, that's what I think, Pat. I think they're going to look back and they're on the wrong side of history and they're going to regret this.

• 1:16:17Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, if you're watching this and you love USA and you love Charlie Kirk, go to VTmerch.com, place any order of The US merch, 100% of the gross revenue, not gross profits, anything you buy, meaning, you buy 1,000 hats, $35,000, $35,000 is going to be sent to Turning Point USA and Charlie Kirk. Anything you buy with USA on it, right there on this specific area, 100% of proceeds are going to go to Turning Point USA and Charlie Kirk's family. So, go to VTmerch.com, it's on the homepage, right another place you order, orders are coming to left and right. I freaking love the amount of support that's coming out, both for USA as well as Charlie Kirk. Love you guys, respect you guys like you wouldn't even know. I absolutely love it. All right, let's continue with this.

• 1:17:00Patrick Bet-David?

  TMZ. Friday, we show the clips. No, no, it wasn't. I talked to my crew, they were reacting to a car chase. We showed the car chase. There was nothing to react to. The seconds didn't match up. There was nothing wild about it. We called them out and I gave credit to Harvey, saying Harvey gives me the vibes that he's a reasonable, fair guy. And also Charles, his partner, I've watched Charles over the years, gives me the vibe that is a reasonable, fair guy, okay? So now, while all this stuff is going on, I don't know what's happened there.

• 1:17:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Internal employees reached out to me, I have their screenshots, they've told me, please don't mention my name. Internal employees have reached out. Previous employees have reached out, saying there is very high chance that they did celebrate the assassination of Charlie Kirk. Previous employees who were at TMZ. By the way, let me put it to you this way, I have a lot of previous employees that probably don't like some of the things I stood for, they're on the complete opposite side. Trust me, I had him in my insurance company and I have him here, politically, oh my God, I can't believe Trump this, I can't believe Trump that. Let me tell you, up on the inside, if you say anything with this, this, this, and that, okay, great.

• 1:18:29Patrick Bet-David?

  So, we understand those things, those things. There's a difference between saying who you're going to vote for, saying who you support.

• 1:18:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Sharing your political philosophies, capitalism, and then celebrating the assassination of somebody. Rob, last night, one of my contacts reaches out to me, guy I've known many years, and all of you here knows who he is. He's in LA. Don't say the name at him. And, you know, drop a name all of a sudden, do your thing. So, this guy calls me last night, he says, hey Pat, I think it's a good idea, you talk to those guys. I said, get a hold of them, I'm gonna talk to them right now. Great. Multiple guys from Hollywood, you guys also know who they are, saying they would do something like that, all this other stuff. I'm innocent until proven guilty. Innocent until proven guilty, right?

• 1:19:22Patrick Bet-David?

  I tried to talk to Charles last night. Darius, if he wants to talk to me. Brother, this is not like who's a celebrity who's famous. You don't wanna talk? You don't have to talk. I'm gonna keep talking. Because I believe you guys weren't the wrong. And if you have an employee there, or employees, that celebrates the victory, I can't believe Charlie's dead, you're celebrating that? Those people need to be held accountable. Charles, Harvey. If there's any business in the world that has zero credibility, right here, to say you don't have the footage, it's you. There's only one business in the world that we all know

• 1:20:07Patrick Bet-David?

  that has cameras everywhere in their office, and it's you. It's your business model. There's only one business. It's not CBS, they don't have cameras everywhere. It's not ABC, they don't have cameras everywhere. It's not NBC, they don't have cameras there. It's TMZ. You have the receipts. And now, the reason why you may not wanna do it is because this is a person that's been with you for a long time, that's got a very important job, and you don't want him to get fired because you really need their job. It's your credibility, or you're not doing anything about it. This is their area, by the way, Rob. Cameras everywhere. Keep going, Rob, we'll go up. Everywhere has cameras. Go up a little bit. Everywhere there is cameras. That's the room.

• 1:20:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Every single place, there are cameras. Everywhere, there are cameras. At least, if a Dave Portnoy...

• 1:21:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Had one of their guys say some stupid, Dave has the audacity to make a tough decision. You don't have to like Dave, or love Dave, or hate Dave, whatever you are there. Dave has the brass to make some decisions. All I'm asking you is, what are you guys gonna do? Maybe come out and say, "That did happen, but we're not gonna fire this person." I respect your decision. You're the CEO, you get to make that decision. And I'll be able to criticize you and say, "You know what? Look, I wouldn't have done that, but I get what you guys are doing." In a situation like this, where your people are messaging, your own people are messaging, they're afraid to tell you anything, your own people are messaging on the inside, saying, "Man, I don't wanna say anything, cuz I know I'm gonna get in trouble myself." Are you guys gonna come out and say anything?

• 1:21:47Patrick Bet-David?

  I tried to get ahold of you last night, cuz I didn't wanna do it this morning. I wanted to give an update this morning. But I reached out to you. My contact did. You know who did. And then you pushed him off. A guy you'd known for 12, 13 years. And you pushed him off, and he said, "No, no, no, no, no! If he wants to speak to me, have him go through my, you know, uh, what did you call him? Have him go through my, um, Publicist? Publicist, or something like that. You know, the publicist, guy named Casey. That's who he needs to go through." "Are you serious, bro? You're not, nah." Have an easier time getting ahold of billionaires, and celebrities, and athletes than you. Who are we? I'm a regular guy, you're a regular guy. What do you mean, you wanna get ahold of me, I'm a big shot? And you're a good guy! My vibe of you is, you're a good guy.

• 1:22:31Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't have a vibe that's a bad guy of you. I think you're a good guy. I think you're a good actor, both of you. I have good feelings about you. Just call the shot and say, "You screwed up." That's all you gotta do.

• 1:22:44Patrick Bet-David?

  And show some leadership. That's all it is. I'm not here to badshot, I don't wanna hurt your business. I think you're necessary. I want you to stick around. I don't want you to go out there and go out of business and, "No!" I want you to stick around, because I think that model, citizen journalism, is necessary. You guys are everywhere, we need TMZ. But if you screwed up, take it, and say, "You know what, guys?"

• 1:23:06Patrick Bet-David?

  We effed up. Did you see how many views the clips got? Did you see what happened on X? Did you see how many comments you got? Did you see how many times? Where's the story right here? What does it say, story with TMZ rap? What's it say here? There's a story. TMZ's ex Twitter inundated with demands for firing after staff heard cheering during news of Charlie Kirk's assassination. F you, you're done. You, you, you wanna, you wanna keep doing this? This is not going away Harvey and Charles. We'll move on, others will not. You ready? TMZ is being called out by fans and followers who believe in the news outlet staffers. Were laughing and cheering in the background livestream when Turning Point USA founder Charlie was assassinated on Wednesday TMZ. Harvey Levin denied the accusations, but fans are not satisfied the explanation by cheers and laughter on air.

• 1:23:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Incident court second. This is not going away. Okay? Play the clip again, just to show it. Play the clip again, Rob. If you can show, not that clip, the clip of them laughing. We have the clip. Just play it again. I don't think it's a clip that's gonna go away anytime soon. And, and the biggest thing that is so embarrassing with them doing it? This is, they're in the business of what? Gotcha.

• 1:24:14Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 1:24:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Gotcha. Take the ultimate accountability. Yeah, we effed up.

• 1:24:18Adam Sosnick?

  Dun, dun, dun.

• 1:24:19Patrick Bet-David?

  And we've made a decision to move on. If you have the clip, Rob.

• 1:24:22Adam Sosnick?

  I do.

• 1:24:23Patrick Bet-David?

  I know you have it everywhere, just.

• 1:24:25Adam Sosnick?

  Pat, which one's Charles? Is it the one who's always standing next to Harvey Levin?

• 1:24:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Charles is the chill, easygoing, likable African American guy. He's the African American guy. Rob, why are you looking so hard, Rob? You showed the clip on Friday. You have the clip. It's a clip of them.

• 1:24:40Adam Sosnick?

  Standing there.

• 1:24:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, it's a clip of them standing right next to you. You have the clip and I texted you the clip here. Let me just send it to you again. You have the clip. I, I, if we go to.

• 1:24:50Adam Sosnick?

  Here we go.

• 1:24:50Speaker 21

  Oh, there we go.

• 1:24:51Patrick Bet-David?

  That's it, that's the one right there. Thank you, go for it.

• 1:24:53Speaker 21

  Guess is, we're gonna see an image of this guy. Possibly in the next 20 minutes. The news conference is scheduled for 3 o'clock in Utah time, which is 2, 2 o'clock Pacific. 5 o'clock Eastern. Janet, go.

• 1:25:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Go back a little bit, how many people are doing that?

• 1:25:17Adam Sosnick?

  Five people?

• 1:25:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Does this sound like one, but can you do me a favor, Rob? Do me a favor, Rob? Can you run a poll? How many does it sound like is clapping?

• 1:25:26Adam Sosnick?

  Okay, let me hear this.

• 1:25:26Patrick Bet-David?

  One, two to three, four to five, five plus. Can you run a poll? Let me have Rob run the poll and I'm gonna play the audio. I just want an audience, I want you to listen to it and I want you to vote, okay? I want you to vote. If you listen to it right now, at work, whatever, the last poll got 10, 15,000 votes. I actually want you to vote, I want to know what you think it is, okay? Let's all do it together.

• 1:25:49Adam Sosnick?

  Okay.

• 1:25:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Just stop what you're doing and just pay close attention. You tell us how many people you think are cheering on. Rob, let me know once the poll is out.

• 1:25:55Adam Sosnick?

  It's up.

• 1:25:56Patrick Bet-David?

  It's up? Okay, go for it, play the clip again.

• 1:25:59Speaker 21

  Um, Janet, go.

• 1:26:04Speaker 21

  Go, go to, um...

• 1:26:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Go back again?

• 1:26:08Speaker 21

  Have some...

• 1:26:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Do it three times, go back.

• 1:26:09Speaker 21

  Eastern, um, Janet, go.

• 1:26:16Speaker 21

  Go, go to, um, have somebody...

• 1:26:20Patrick Bet-David?

  One more time, Rob?

• 1:26:21Speaker 21

  Eastern, um, Janet, go.

• 1:26:27Speaker 21

  Go, go to, um...

• 1:26:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Look at, he's nervous.

• 1:26:30Speaker 21

  Have somebody look at the...

• 1:26:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Do it one more time.

• 1:26:33Speaker 21

  Janet, go.

• 1:26:38Speaker 21

  Go, go to, um, have somebody look...

• 1:26:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Assassination. How many think it was? How many think it was, Tom?

• 1:26:46Tom Ellsworth?

  I think there's more than five people back there. I'm listening to that and I hear a loud shriek in the middle, I hear support, I hear clap. You know, I, I, I cannot say it's less than four, it sounds more than that.

• 1:26:58Adam Sosnick?

  Up to five, I would say three to five.

• 1:27:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, what does it sound like to you, Rob?

• 1:27:02Adam Sosnick?

  I, I'm, I agree with Vinnie, three to five.

• 1:27:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Vinnie, Adam, where you at?

• 1:27:06Adam Sosnick?

  To me, it sounds like there's five to 10 people clapping, but to me, it's more than that. It's, they didn't do it in secret. They did it out loud as if the entire organization would feel that way.

• 1:27:20Patrick Bet-David?

  What a point!

• 1:27:21Adam Sosnick?

  To me, it is culture. It is culture. If they felt a certain way, if, if, we have, how many editors out there, 30, 40? If two, three people, they would do it in whisper, they would do it in silence. The fact that they're doing it out loud... For the entire company to hear when they know that everything is on camera shows that this is a culture issue.

• 1:27:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Look at that right there. Sixty-three hundred people who already voted in a minute. Fifty percent say it's over five.

• 1:27:49Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 1:27:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Thirty-eight percent says three to five. You know what it says? Eighty-eight percent say it's more than three.

• 1:27:54Adam Sosnick?

  Yes.

• 1:27:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Eighty-eight percent. Harvey. This is seven thousand people that just voted right now. And eighty-eight percent of them are saying it's more than three. All you gotta do is make the decision. This is not gonna go away. Every single time you show clip of anybody. We're gonna replay this clip. Every single time. You show anybody and you try to get a gotcha for them. Every, and by the way, trust me, behind closed, you know how these guys get revenge? Look, let's go find something on Pat. Let's go find something on these guys. Let's write an article about these guys. Watch them do, by the way, stay tuned. Ready, set, go. In the next thirty, sixty, ninety days. Watch what they'll do. These are professionals. That's how they get revenge. It's the blackmail model. All I'm saying to you is.

• 1:28:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Be straight up. You know there were people celebrating in the back. And if you want to prove to us that they weren't, you got sixty cameras in the back. Show it to us. Five cameras in the back, whatever the number is, show it to us. And we'll say, you know what? You're right. The exact camera with the car footage of what they celebrated, show it to us. We will say we're sorry. We'll do it right in front of you. And you can play the clip and say, "Podcaster who claimed da-da-da-da-da had to apologize." We will apologize. Play the gotcha. We'll give you that clip. Matter of fact, we'll edit it. And we'll get on our knees and apologize.

• 1:29:08Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 1:29:09Patrick Bet-David?

  And we'll make some real creative videos of apology for you. If you can show me the exact live footage of those people clapping there together about this.

• 1:29:17Adam Sosnick?

  This is gonna be a credibility and an accountability issue. And then in my opinion, you said multiple times, this won't go away. This is gonna be TMZ's Epstein moment. And don't be shocked if they show you the footage and one minute is missing right around eleven fifty-nine midnight. Shocker alert. The Zapp Bruder. For, for, exactly. Zapp Bruder frames. So for somebody that exposes all of Hollywood's deepest, darkest secrets, I'm sure they know a million people who handle crisis management. They should probably employ every single one of them to help them in this situation. Because now the lie is becoming worse and worse and worse.

• 1:29:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, let's move on. We'll see. Hopefully TMZ will do the right thing. Charles Harvey, you have my number. I'm just waiting for a phone call, buddy. And if you think I'm not at your level because you're, you're celebrities. You know what I'm saying? Hollywood. In LA, they stop you at like Earth Cafe. I go to regular places here. You're at Boa. If you think we're not at your level, don't worry about it. Just publicly do it and, and make the decision. But I, I approached you respectfully and this is how you handled it. I'm a very fair, respectful guy. I came to you respectfully. All I wanted to hear from you is because the way the audience reacted. Tom, you wouldn't say something?

• 1:30:30Tom Ellsworth?

  No, I, I thank you for what you said. I completely agree with that. And until they come to the microphone, TMZ now means truth missing zone.

• 1:30:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. I like, oh, Tom came with the receipts. When it comes down to them. There we go. When it comes down to them, okay? When it comes down to them. All right. I'm gonna read this next story. I don't know how you guys are gonna react to this or not, but Cuomo said something about Musk. Right? Because of what Musk was saying. And then the, the market reacts to it. I just want to get a fair assessment because everybody menacted me and messaged me. Pat, this is your guy. What do you think about what he had to say? What do you think about what he had to say? This is what Chris had to say about Elon Musk. And Rob, go ahead and play the clip.

• 1:31:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Can't hear it, Rob.

• 1:31:16Speaker 22

  World who controls the most powerful platform in our media, writes that the left is the party of murder and then decides, Elon Musk, I'm talking about this, the stupidest genius I've ever been around. And no, I'm not gonna excuse it because he's autistic. I know a lot of, I have a lot of autistic people in my life. They are not all morally bankrupt, okay? They, they don't all say the stupidest thing at the worst time. All right? I don't know what it's about with him and I don't give a shit, to be honest.

• 1:31:58Speaker 22

  He is, he is, in my opinion, exhausted his usefulness. Now, does that mean he should be murdered? No, because that's not how I see the value of human life. But would I be surprised? No, I wouldn't be surprised if it's me. I mean, that's where we are. It's who we are. That's who we are.

• 1:32:19Speaker 22

  But when he can write the left is a party of this and then he goes on this thing about why black is capitalized and why white is not, the medium is the message.

• 1:32:30Speaker 22

  We are about division and hate of what we oppose.

• 1:32:39Tom Ellsworth?

  Tom, Vinnie, thoughts?

• 1:32:40Speaker 04

  I mean, I don't know.

• 1:32:44Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, this is kind of tough.

• 1:32:48Speaker 04

  Okay, so, okay, here's my question, Chris. Which side is the party of murder? Which side is murdering people? Go ahead, and go, go. I don't want to hear January 6th. I don't want to hear Pelosi with the hammer. I don't want to hear none of that shit. Which side is killing which side? Just go ahead, give it to me. And what does your side stand for? Please, give me the positive light on your side. Go ahead, and mind you, I love Chris to death, Pat. We, I'll spend, I could, I could go on a road trip with Chris, and I'll have the best time of my life. But this is the same guy that during COVID,

• 1:33:30Speaker 04

  you said that we are, like, the people, the problem, the enemy, is Americans. The fellow Americans that wouldn't take a jab, that you were pushing, that your network was pushing, and people had been affected myocarditis, long COVID, heart attack, stroke, what? Go ahead, I was at the, I did a show, Pat, my Assyrian show at the Syrian convention, and this lady who was praising what value tainment does, was praising Pat, who's an Assyrian, that said she even knew you from California. Her son comes to take a photo with me, and this side of this whole, I went to shake his hand, doesn't work. And I go, and the Syrian, she goes, she's getting emotional? She's like, yeah, vaccine injured. And, and think about it, why do you think she was putting it in her kid?

• 1:34:16Speaker 04

  Because people like Chris were telling us, you have, you should do it, or else you're the enemy.

• 1:34:20Speaker 22

  Let's do this.

• 1:34:21Speaker 04

  That's ridiculous, that, that type of, he's exhausted his use? You know what that's gonna make somebody say? Then let me shoot his ass too. Let me shoot Elon Musk, because he's exhausted what he's worth.

• 1:34:32Speaker 22

  And that's, that's the reaction.

• 1:34:33Speaker 04

  That's ridiculous for him to even say something. Oh yeah, me too. And don't, don't play that stupid game, because those little dog whistles, those little fascist Nazis, that's us. By the way, that list, we're on that list that you're talking about. And saying that stupid, it drives me crazy, bro. Enough, enough.

• 1:34:53Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, Chris wasn't in the studio. We know Chris. Chris has been here, everybody knows. And he was being off the cuff and he was sitting there at home backdrop, whatever it was, I'm assuming and had some thoughts on his mind, wanted to say, and obviously he had a little bit of irkedness in his voice about specifically Elon Musk. He talked about autism. He talked about usefulness. But when you say, you know, somebody does something, wouldn't be surprising. And then he's got a soft qualifier in there. It could be me. I think you just gotta sit back and go, wait a minute. What part of that is going to clip up? What part of that's really going to show up? And you are a visible commentator and you have a soapbox of credibility. And

• 1:35:36Tom Ellsworth?

  the statements that he made at the political convention about- Great. Were great. And people put credence in that. And so you got a responsibility. If you're home and you're upset with something you saw Elon Musk say, and you don't really like it, and your brother's back in the arena again, and you feel like the liberals and Democrats are being attacked by Elon Musk, and it pissed you off, or your brother said to you, you know, why don't you say something? We don't know what led to that, but he was sitting there in a t-shirt at home. He wasn't all done up for the camera. And he's saying it. And I just think you gotta sit back and say, do I post this? How many athletes and people have kinda, kinda done it? And I just think, that's what it feels to me. An off the cuff thing that if you look back at it again, you mean, how many times do we get

• 1:36:18Tom Ellsworth?

  upset here? What has Pat talked to us about? Show me what you're thinking. And we show things to each other and say, you know what? You may want to soften that up because in the moment of emotion, it could come off this way. It could come off that way. This isn't reality programming. We don't sit here and re-edit everything for perfection. And we allow emotions to go out. But we also recognize that when you're emotional, when something's up, that maybe you should do it. And I think that should have been reflected on and edited. It looks like off the cuff at home. And you just can't do that. Adam, where are you at?

• 1:36:48Adam Sosnick?

  I'm actually with Cuomo on this. The, partially. So Elon Musk says that the left is the party of murder. He's kinda not wrong. Chris Cuomo says that Elon Musk is the stupidest genius and he's not gonna blame it on the fact that he's on the spectrum, what have you. That's also a factor here as well. You know, follow the money here. Elon Musk has basically decided that he is gonna go full on to the right. Now, what happened to the third party that Elon was gonna do? I don't think anything actually came of that. I've heard no news of anything that he's gonna do to a third party. So, meaning to me that Elon has conceded the fact that he's gonna stay on the right and he's gonna villainize the left. You know, he showed

• 1:37:33Adam Sosnick?

  up at the Tommy Robinson event. By the way, I would too if I was in the UK. But here's what the Tesla chair had to say about Musk's political engagement. It's up to him. Tesla board chair Robin Denholm dismissed concerns that Elon Musk's political activity has hurt the performance of the electric vehicle maker. From a policy perspective, obviously we're a democracy, so everybody gets to voice their points of view. So Tesla also reported a 13% drop in global auto deliveries in Q2. Here's the deal. Elon Musk can say literally whatever he wants to say. He helped save free speech with Twitter, X. At the same time, he's gonna alienate almost half the world by basically saying what he's saying.

• 1:38:15Adam Sosnick?

  So is Chris wrong? Is Elon wrong? Maybe a little bit. The truth is somewhere in the middle here. I think that Elon should tamper down a little bit because his words have massive, massive, massive power. But also, Chris Cuomo, he's got a voice and he needs to do better as well in this capacity.

• 1:38:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. He just posted something 29 minutes ago that Tesla is up $69 to $420, which you know he likes that 420 number of where it's at. Yeah. I don't know. To me, this is kinda where I'm at. You know, I'm trying to, the role I'm gonna play in this is purely words. Solid is words have consequences. They always have, they always will, they're not going away. You want to improve a relationship, use better words. You want to incite violence, you know what words to use. You want people to get angry, you know what words to use. You want to find a way to show reason, you know what words to use. I just think there's better choices of words to use to lower the temperature.

• 1:39:18Patrick Bet-David?

  And if your outcome is virality, you got it. If your outcome is shock jock, you got it. If your outcome is to lower the temperature, you didn't. Now there's a target on his back. And by the way, whether Chris said it or not, the target's always been on Elon's back. Elon's had a target on his back from the day he decided to support Trump. And Trump goes assassination attempt. And he said, this is one of the most exciting moments to see. I don't know, there was a tweet that he put it with Trump's arm being up. Rob, you know which one I'm talking about, right? He had something that he said on the day of assassination. I just think we have to use better words because some people take things literally. And they won't stop doing that anytime soon.

• 1:39:57Speaker 04

  And Pat, did you see that chart that Elon, Tom showed me this chart? Tom, you want to say what this?

• 1:40:01Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, Colin Wright publishes this and then Elon reposted it with like a one word support for it. But it just shows how the little chart shows.

• 1:40:12Speaker 04

  He messaged it to you.

• 1:40:12Tom Ellsworth?

  A little man standing there and how the political spectrum is moving around you. And the man doesn't move, but the left gets far to the left. The right basically stays where it is. There's something we talked about, you know, last week and appears to be this is Elon Musk said he was in support of that. And that this reflected where he was.

• 1:40:32Speaker 04

  And Pat, look at that.

• 1:40:33Tom Ellsworth?

  So you get the little guy in the center and but everything's moving, but the little guy stays put.

• 1:40:38Speaker 04

  What a great, what a great, simple chart, like the center.

• 1:40:43Tom Ellsworth?

  To the point where the progressive left, the party of peace is now shooting back at the center. You bigots.

• 1:40:48Speaker 04

  Yeah, and shooting and killing people. And it's like, that is the perfect, most simplistic example of what is happening. They lost people like Elon, they lost people like Rogan, they lost Tulsi Gabbard, they lost RFK. It's like, come on, man. is that side and by the way not saying that the other side doesn't have violent people nobody's saying that but go check the stats check the stats all this trans all this negative all this as if they're taking out fashion that they're think that they're doing a duty and these little freaking dog whistles that you guys are doing you don't think it's mad up like playing dumb come on but you're too smart for that they know exactly what the hell they're doing and it drives me crazy and then something happens and I go no no no

• 1:41:31Speaker 04

  I didn't mean it like that I meant it another way

• 1:41:34Adam Sosnick?

  so Elon Musk he's the one that tweeted this Elon Colin Wright did and then Elon retweeted it with like exactly you want you want to know why I know Elon is right on that huh uh because that's literally me

• 1:41:47Speaker 04

  you're the little guy

• 1:41:48Adam Sosnick?

  if you could show that picture one more time no Tom that's not funny Tom again uh that's literally me I was probably center-left in 2008 JFK Democrat Clinton Democrat voted for Obama and now I'm wearing an American flag pin and people just associate me with MAGA because if you're a Democrat at this point and you're on the left there's a large portion of them that hate America and if you're just normal whether you're a RFK whether you're a Tulsi whether you're a Joe Rogan whether you're Elon Musk whether you're the guys from the All In Podcast you saw what was going on here the last five years and you said I can't be anywhere near associated with the demonic possessed progressive side of the left

• 1:42:31Adam Sosnick?

  so the you know the the right will say God bless America the left will say free Palestine pick your poison

• 1:42:38Patrick Bet-David?

  yeah again lower the temperature is all I'm saying we don't need to increase it any higher than it is today once it goes you will not be able to stop it

• 1:42:47Adam Sosnick?

  I agree

• 1:42:48Patrick Bet-David?

  once it goes Vinnie

• 1:42:49Adam Sosnick?

  I feel it though I know I know

• 1:42:52Patrick Bet-David?

  nasty

• 1:42:52Adam Sosnick?

  yup

• 1:42:53Patrick Bet-David?

  once it goes you have to be very very careful and trust me and you know how there's a part of people like oh my god I have nothing to lose you know the people who have no kids and you know people are like 20 years old 18 years old like oh this will be so exciting it's not exciting there's nothing exciting about that you do not want to see that happen nobody wants to see that happen okay let me get to the next story the next story I want to get to is uh uh I'm gonna get into the China and Mexico story that's going on so China throws fit over Mexico playing ball with Trump on trade which by the way for Trump to get Mexico to play ball with them on this. It's very interesting. Very interesting because one minute. She acts tough.

• 1:43:36Patrick Bet-David?

  We won't do this and you know, she says what she says about Trump and then all of a sudden 24 hours later. She does exactly what Trump wants him to do. China is lashing out at Mexico for considering tariffs on Chinese goods that would align more closely with Trump. Trade agenda Bloomberg reported Friday, the Chinese Ministry of Commerce said Mexico should think twice. Before imposing a planned 50% tariff on cars and other products. Made by China, according to Bloomberg, translation of ministry announcement on Thursday. The Chinese government also seemed to imply that Mexico was merely caving to Trump's wishes. And not exerting an independent trade policy. Any unilateral tariff increased by Mexico, even within the framework. Of the WTO rules would be seen as appeasement and compromise.

• 1:44:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Toward unilateral bullying, the statement read according to Bloomberg where we urged the Mexico side to exercise extreme caution. And consider carefully before taking any action Mexican President Claudia Schomburg. Insisted the move was to protect domestic industry and did not seek to steer tensions. Between China and Mexico, according to Bloomberg, Trump has heavily employed tariffs. In order to protect the US industries with China being one of Washington's main targets, Tom.

• 1:44:48Tom Ellsworth?

  So look. Mexico is an important trading partner with the United States and you take a look, we've seen all the charts of how. Much it's increased over the last 10 years. And China is in there trying to disrupt. The US economically, they played a long game. They're also wanted to be big in EVs. And BYD, which is the second largest, now now the largest, I think on on volume. Um, EV maker in the world is a Chinese company. And they have all their EVs that are named after, I think, like oceans or birds or whatever it is. But um, they had this giant factory that was in Mexico and Trump starts rattling the saber. And all of a sudden they're like, okay, we're going to postpone that.

• 1:45:33Tom Ellsworth?

  And then China's trying to bring imports into China. In Mexico and the Mexico and the US. And now Trump's like, no, no, no, no, no, we're gonna make a deal here. I'm gonna make a deal with Mexico and not gonna do this. And China flips out because they want to have that BYD factory. They're playing a long game. They want that factory right here on our back door so they could just ship the cars right across. Now, if I was China and I was thinking about my auto industry, I would think that way. I would say, hey, we could get, could we get labor and land and everything and build the cars in Mexico and then ship them across? Yeah, let's do that. And then guess what? That'll get after Tesla, that'll get after General Motors, that'll get after Ford, that'll get after all of them. What a great idea. Then, everything else. And by the way, there's also a dark side.

• 1:46:16Tom Ellsworth?

  The fentanyl coming through Mexico to the United States is Chinese fentanyl. Vast majority of it.

• 1:46:22Speaker 04

  The majority, right?

• 1:46:23Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, the DEA says it. You know, the DEA, I'm not gonna, I'm saying majority, I'm not gonna say numbers because I don't have the receipts and the numbers in front of me. But the DEA, you know, and the ATF are saying that it's, that it is Chinese fentanyl coming through Mexico here. So there's a lot of other things that Mexico doesn't. And look carefully. China says, we urge the Mexican side to exercise extreme caution and consider carefully before taking any actions. You know what that is? That's a threat.

• 1:46:55Speaker 04

  Hundred percent.

• 1:46:57Tom Ellsworth?

  That's a threat. And so now the question comes up, is it fair questions to ask? Has China meddled in the political structure down there? Has China encouraged any of these, you know, interferences with campaigns? When I say interferences with campaigns, I'm meaning sometimes people stop campaigning.

• 1:47:15Speaker 04

  Getting beheaded, go ahead.

• 1:47:16Tom Ellsworth?

  Shortly after their heart stops. And so China throwing a fit, it's because they've got a big time play and they got many moves that were coming through Mexico. And this is just the beginning. I'm gonna come over your border here and I'm gonna knock out some of these drug lords. I'm also gonna influence the trade. And China is like, whoa. The louder China yells, the more you know it matters to them. They play poker pretty good, but when the US does maneuvers around. Taiwan two years ago and China flipped out. I'd be careful there. What are you doing? Oh, we're just doing a little show of force that we could sail right over here and help our our friend Taiwan. And they're like, hang on, you stay out of it. That's it. That's me. That's

• 1:47:59Tom Ellsworth?

  historically our DNA. You don't, you don't mess around with this. You leave us alone. The more you get a hard reaction out of China, not the diplomatic one, means you know that you've hit the nerve and you've stepped on the toe.

• 1:48:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam.

• 1:48:12Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, I mean, I'm following this right here. Do you know that the United States is the number one trading partner, our number one trading partner is Mexico? So there's a lot going on here in geopolitics and the dominos are sort of falling right here. So it's a domino effect of geopolitics. So Taiwan, that side of the world, Mexico, our side of the world, South Korea, that side of the world, the Panama Canal. I know that's something that you feel very strongly about, that side of the world right there. Mexico being our number one trading partner, but then they also, they're the number one buyer. China, sorry, that Mexico is the number one buyer of Chinese cars. Also, these numbers that are being saying that, do you know that WTO says there's a, the maximum you can possibly

• 1:48:54Adam Sosnick?

  put a tariff on is 50%. I'm learning all these things here, but we're gonna, we're gonna, basically that's not easy to understand how this will all play out. I'm following the story for the first time here. I had no idea that China, that Mexico was the number one buyer of Chinese vehicles, but at a lot of times they get through tariffs because of the US TMA. You know, if you, Mexico has free, you can, Mexico can bring American cars into United States. So China will ship cars to Mexico to bypass the tariffs. There's a lot of jockeying for position here. What is it called?

• 1:49:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Hafusan.

• 1:49:30Adam Sosnick?

  Okay. So there's a lot going on here and I understand completely why China wants to control Mexico. I would hope that we can control our own backyard or our southern border to deal with China's ascendance in the world.

• 1:49:45Speaker 04

  Just from, just from Tom making this point, this doesn't have to do with the actual, the deal with what they're doing in Mexico, but China, we always talk about them, they literally get away with everything and They're not the adversary. They're our, they're our enemy. How many deaths each year happen from fentanyl in the United States? I, I, I looked it up. Like just in 2024, there was 49,000, 48,422. How much of that is coming from China, Tom? How much, how much have you had to guess?

• 1:50:12Tom Ellsworth?

  I, I don't have the numbers in front of me, but I think it was the vast majority of the fentanyl in Mexico was traced to China.

• 1:50:19Speaker 04

  So, so, but let's say that's coming in, Americans are dying. I'll drop it to, let's say 38,000 Americans are dying from China. Okay, they're killing us with the trade. They, they unleashed COVID on everybody and killed millions of people, ruined us. That is the enemy. And everybody wants us to think it's Putin and Putin price hike. No, it's China, not China. How many, 48,000 Americans dead every year and the numbers keep going up? There, not one bullet shot, that, when not one bullet is shot from China and they're literally the enemy. They're literally the enemy and it drives me crazy that they never get held accountable for what they do.

• 1:50:55Patrick Bet-David?

  So, think about you, you're the president of the free world, okay? You don't have a choice but to do business with these guys.

• 1:51:03Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:51:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Because 53 years ago, a guy named Richard, some would call him Dick, empowered them to become stronger, okay? China became stronger because of this guy, when he opened up China, okay? Once China listened to the Xi Jinping, uh, uh, uh, when they had the meeting with Japan, the pink punk meeting where they opened up the banks, 5,000 banks, 35 tellers, 35 loan officers, 30 applications a week, 5.25 applications per year, whatever the number was, massive, that they're gonna be able to open up small businesses and now China's a behemoth. So, if China was smaller, US wouldn't even think about doing business with these guys.

• 1:51:46Patrick Bet-David?

  But they're not, they're bigger. You have to do business with them. Now China is playing the patient game. To them, they're like, no, we got time, no, we got time, no, we got time. Now Mexico siding with US? Good for you, Trump. See, it's things like this that just be glad to have a guy like that at the White House that's negotiating, because he knows all of these games to play when negotiating. Trump is probably not gonna be looking at it the way you are, the way you're looking at it with everything that China, covid, all that stuff that happened. And in many ways, he can't because remember, he is Project Warp Speed.

• 1:52:23Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, Operation Warp.

• 1:52:25Speaker 04

  Good point.

• 1:52:25Patrick Bet-David?

  You know, so it's not like he can, because remember what he kept saying. I, some estimate that I saved around 100 million people's lives, right? It, what he kept saying over and over again. So it would be a shift if he goes back to it. So, but I think the way they're going right now, this is looking good. I keep saying this, as long as they solve this before end of Q2 next year, summer next year is gonna be a commercial for America. And I'm telling you right now, the only thing that can get in the way, okay, can we play dark game real quick?

• 1:52:57Speaker 04

  All right, let's go there.

• 1:52:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Can we do that?

• 1:52:58Speaker 04

  Let's go.

• 1:52:58Patrick Bet-David?

  All right, you ready? Oof.

• 1:53:01Speaker 04

  Uh oh.

• 1:53:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me tell you.

• 1:53:02Speaker 04

  Strap in your seatbelts.

• 1:53:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Check this out. So imagine you're the enemy. And the enemy on the other side hears people like us saying 2026 is gonna be the greatest year in the history of America. Okay? 250 year anniversary. The next one that's gonna be a big deal, it's gonna be what? 500. For, so no one's gonna celebrate 300 or 350 or 400, the way they will 500. And then after 500 is what? 1,000. Okay? So right now, it's 250. Under whose watch? Trump's watch. The guy they love, right?

• 1:53:32Speaker 04

  Adoring.

• 1:53:33Patrick Bet-David?

  And on top of that, with him being there next year, okay, you got tariffs deal gets done, economy opens up, and on top of the economy opening up, and tariffs going where they're going. Rob, are you good?

• 1:53:48Speaker 13

  Internet's down. Just lost the stream. Whole building's down. The show just cut out. We're off.

• 1:53:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Are you 100%? Because it's showing 40,000 is still there. Gang, can you come back? Can you comment and say if we're there or no?

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• 1:55:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Are we on or no? Because it's telling me it's back.

• 1:55:18Speaker 04

  We're on now, but we were off.

• 1:55:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay. So, can you just comment? And it's just saying bad audio. Are we good or no? You guys are back. Okay. Let me guess, it was Israel.

• 1:55:29Speaker 04

  Israel. I was just gonna say, Messiah was Messiah.

• 1:55:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you do me a favor? And tell me, what's the last thing I said? What's the last thing I said? Because I was about to tell you. What is the last thing I said? Can you just comment below? What's the last thing I said? Do you remember what's the last thing they heard me say? What I was getting ready to say is the following.

• 1:55:46Speaker 04

  Yeah, the dark. Yeah, please let us know where Pat was. Pat, did Pat say something about it being dark?

• 1:55:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Why don't you start over? I was about to say, so imagine if you're the enemy. Okay? And let's think like the enemy for a second.

• 1:56:00Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 1:56:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's go dark. What do they call it? They say, "Let's be the devil's advocate." Former mentor of mine used to say, "Let's not be." There's plenty of them out there. But we're gonna be today. Okay? We're gonna be the devil's advocate. So, think about if you had a room full of 50 people who hate Trump.

• 1:56:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Who are all on the same page. They want to see another 2020 event take place of COVID coming in and disrupting Trump getting reelected. You're in a room with 50 people. Take all the establishment people that hate Trump. All the influential people, some of them are money guys, some of them are mainstream media guys, some of them are youngins. Think about all those guys, Tom, in the same room, 50 of them, okay? You know. He's about to get the China deal done, tariffs. It's a massive victory, okay, and I hope he gets Panama Canal. Cause I'll be doing backflips here. I'll learn how to do backflip. I will literally.

• 1:56:58Speaker 04

  Send a whole teacher.

• 1:57:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so. They pulled this off. Next year, 250 year anniversary, America. The next time they celebrate something like that won't be for another 250 years, cause it's gonna be 500. And then after 500, it's gonna be 1,000, okay? And who knows, by 500, the president may be a robot, but right now it's still flesh, okay? And his name is Donald J. Trump. A man the other side cannot stand, right? So. What would you do to make sure next year is not a big victory year? What is the biggest spit in the face? To make sure the World Cup gets canceled?

• 1:57:37Speaker 04

  Oh, a terrorist, something, that's already been on my.

• 1:57:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Forget about that, imagine if you. Cause the temperature to be so increasing right now after Kirk. Blaming the other side. A George Floyd type of, type of deal. Where all of a sudden martial law, all this stuff that's being done. Pick and choose anything. If next year. The World Cup got canceled, what got canceled under Trump? What were we having that got canceled? Something got canceled. Was it the Winter Olympics? Something got canceled, I don't know what got canceled. But something was canceled. Under Trump, okay? Obviously NBA, NHL, all those guys shut it down where. You know, the NBA who was saying end racism, went to the state that DeSantis was running to run their playoffs. But something got canceled under him. Okay, it was the Summer Olympics.

• 1:58:24Speaker 04

  Tokyo.

• 1:58:25Patrick Bet-David?

  That guy can't, something got canceled, is that the one? Yeah, and it got postponed to 2021. You know what would be good if the enemy wanted to really disrupt Trump's momentum? If the 250 year anniversary doesn't happen, if the World Cup gets cancelled, if all of those great opportunities for America to look great under Trump, you don't think they're sitting behind closed doors thinking about some plans?

• 1:58:45Speaker 04

  They think like that, of course.

• 1:58:47Patrick Bet-David?

  I guarantee you they are.

• 1:58:48Speaker 04

  Of course, of course.

• 1:58:51Patrick Bet-David?

  So folks, and my, let me make a prediction. I call 2025 the year of surprises. God.

• 1:58:59Speaker 04

  Every week, surprises, right?

• 1:59:02Patrick Bet-David?

  2026 is gonna be one of two things. It's either gonna be extremely awesome.

• 1:59:09Speaker 04

  Yeah. Or all the way over there.

• 1:59:11Adam Sosnick?

  Pat, no, no.

• 1:59:14Patrick Bet-David?

  He's just being a realistic person. And I'm gonna tell you, you can say no all you want, and I'll tell you why. The only reason I'm telling you this is because this is, if these guys keep winning the way they are, and China deal gets done, rates start lowering, economy's on fire, Dow goes 50, 55, deals are getting done, IPO, Sparks, everything. Yeah, oh my God, America's the greatest country in the world, or you know, World Cup here, I'm saying. Or, boom, guys, we cannot have the World Cup be here. Guys, we cannot have the 250 year anniversary. We cannot give them all that limelight. We cannot, he can do 2027, but not 2026. So they're gonna try to go and do this.

• 1:59:57Speaker 04

  Why wouldn't they? Why wouldn't they?

• 2:00:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, I'm thinking the part of them, they're noble, nice, sweet people that wanna see him look great.

• 2:00:03Speaker 04

  God fearing.

• 2:00:04Patrick Bet-David?

  In the, in the, you know, but Adam, you seem a little bit nervous about this. Tell me where you know.

• 2:00:08Adam Sosnick?

  They want that to roll into the midterms and disrupt that.

• 2:00:11Speaker 04

  Who do you think is they? Who's at the top of the list?

• 2:00:13Patrick Bet-David?

  The same guys that shut off the internet.

• 2:00:15Speaker 04

  Is it Russia? Is it the Mutha?

• 2:00:18Patrick Bet-David?

  You're saying who are they? Yeah, that's a good point, the guys that shut off the internet. I'm picturing Xi just flipping a light switch up and down. Do me a favor, actually go, who is they?

• 2:00:27Speaker 04

  I'm go, I'm gonna go there. If you think about it.

• 2:00:30Adam Sosnick?

  We know who it is.

• 2:00:31Speaker 04

  Well, it's the same actors that we constantly talk about. The deep, well, when you say.

• 2:00:36Adam Sosnick?

  It's China, it's Russia, it's Iran.

• 2:00:38Patrick Bet-David?

  But I tell you, if the deal gets done, it won't be China.

• 2:00:41Speaker 04

  That's what I'm saying, yeah.

• 2:00:42Patrick Bet-David?

  If the deal gets done, it won't be China. If the deal doesn't get done, it could be China. Okay, you were bringing them up, Rob.

• 2:00:49Adam Sosnick?

  Don't, don't, not so fast.

• 2:00:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Look at that face.

• 2:00:51Adam Sosnick?

  China is what's called, uh, uh, the, the.

• 2:00:55Speaker 04

  Sleeping.

• 2:00:57Adam Sosnick?

  They'll unleash something like covid boom. Well, we didn't.

• 2:01:01Speaker 04

  Oh, no.

• 2:01:02Adam Sosnick?

  They're not gonna.

• 2:01:03Speaker 04

  No, I don't. I don't think.

• 2:01:04Adam Sosnick?

  They're not gonna full on attack you.

• 2:01:06Speaker 04

  No, of course.

• 2:01:06Adam Sosnick?

  They're gonna do something discreet undercover.

• 2:01:09Speaker 04

  I don't. I don't think Americans. Listen, covid was a test run to see if they could do it. How long we would put up with it, how much money they can make. And then what? It took about three years for Americans to say no. Now all the, all the reports are coming out, no accountability. And what?

• 2:01:23Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, but covid wasn't just an American thing. It was a worldwide thing.

• 2:01:26Speaker 04

  A hundred percent.

• 2:01:27Adam Sosnick?

  Every country.

• 2:01:28Speaker 04

  But what did it do? It made Trump not complacent. Trump was in a trade war with China. And if you want to add in the deep state, Adam, I, I wouldn't be surprised if the, if the meeting secretly was like, hey, listen. We have the lab there. Just leak it. You'll never get in trouble. We're gonna win. You guys are gonna make trillions of dollars. And guess what? Orange man bad is gonna be out and it worked to a T. And then we're gonna change voting, mail in voting, bro. It was a brilliant, brilliant plan. Great question. Whatever it's gonna be, it's gonna have to be a huge worldwide.

• 2:02:00Patrick Bet-David?

  I just think, I just think you gotta, you gotta think about that next year is poised to be an incredible year.

• 2:02:07Speaker 04

  Yep, I agree.

• 2:02:08Adam Sosnick?

  I still think it's gonna be an incredible year.

• 2:02:09Patrick Bet-David?

  I do as well.

• 2:02:10Speaker 04

  I think they'll do, but don't, don't underestimate the enemy.

• 2:02:12Adam Sosnick?

  Nothing gonna stop our 250 birthday.

• 2:02:13Patrick Bet-David?

  But let me tell you.

• 2:02:14Adam Sosnick?

  It's also Trump's 80th birthday.

• 2:02:15Patrick Bet-David?

  That's right.

• 2:02:16Adam Sosnick?

  By the way, we're all the people now who thought that Trump was dead two weeks ago.

• 2:02:19Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:02:20Adam Sosnick?

  Doing just fine.

• 2:02:21Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:02:21Adam Sosnick?

  This is why you can't get too caught up in the headlines.

• 2:02:23Speaker 04

  Oh, you mean Tim Walsh? Yeah, Tim Walsh. I woke up. I was like, well, well, I wanted something on my phone. Maybe there should be some news. Maybe this should be here.

• 2:02:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, that guy. That guy's disgusting. He's disgusting. But by the way, that guy's part of the day.

• 2:02:35Speaker 04

  That's they.

• 2:02:36Patrick Bet-David?

  That's part of the day.

• 2:02:37Speaker 04

  I agree.

• 2:02:37Patrick Bet-David?

  You're asking who the day is? That's the day.

• 2:02:40Speaker 04

  Yep.

• 2:02:40Patrick Bet-David?

  They're, they're part of the day camp is where they are. They're, they're celebrating. Uh, for some of you guys that are big Colbert guys, he won an Emmy last night.

• 2:02:48Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 2:02:49Patrick Bet-David?

  And at the end of his Emmy speech, he says, hey, by the way, if you're, if you're looking for a job, I'm hiring. If you're, you know, if you're hiring, I'm looking for a job, right? And he gave that whole speech and.

• 2:02:57Speaker 04

  Might be the only funny thing he's ever said in his life.

• 2:03:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Is this him? Go ahead, Rob.

• 2:03:03Adam Sosnick?

  Oh.

• 2:03:04Speaker 04

  Oh, God.

• 2:03:05Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, he's.

• 2:03:05Adam Sosnick?

  This guy's wearing a.

• 2:03:06Speaker 04

  Javier Bardem is wearing the friggin' capier.

• 2:03:14Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, oh, yeah. Worship him. Oh, yeah.

• 2:03:19Speaker 02

  Thank you very much. Thank you very much. You're very kind.

• 2:03:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Are they screaming USA?

• 2:03:25Adam Sosnick?

  They're definitely not screaming USA.

• 2:03:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Open the border. Open the border.

• 2:03:31Adam Sosnick?

  The Golden Globes. What is this?

• 2:03:33Speaker 02

  Emmy's. Emmy's? Is anyone hiring?

• 2:03:37Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 2:03:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Funny and cut that mic off. Good job. Yeah, so anyways, so I, by the way, I don't even want to get your reactions to it. I just wanted to say, guys looking for jobs. Yeah, somebody hire him, please.

• 2:03:48Adam Sosnick?

  Pat, you wanted to have your dark moment right now. Is there anything else you want to add?

• 2:03:52Patrick Bet-David?

  To that? No. To me, it's just you always gotta be thinking about how nasty the enemy will get. You have to always be thinking about how nasty the enemy will get and be three steps ahead, five steps ahead. There's a, there's a book that was written, I think, five and a half years ago, five years ago in August. It's called Your Next Five Moves.

• 2:04:10Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:04:11Patrick Bet-David?

  If you've never read it, you may want to think about reading it, called Your Next Five Moves. It's to teach you how to make better moves in life. Rob, if you can go on Amazon and show this book, it's, it's worth to read, guys.

• 2:04:24Adam Sosnick?

  I met the, I met the author one time.

• 2:04:26Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't know if the author is a little bit...

• 2:04:28Adam Sosnick?

  Is he French? No, he's a good dude.

• 2:04:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Is his name Patrick?

• 2:04:30Adam Sosnick?

  He's actually a black Persian. He's a black Persian.

• 2:04:34Patrick Bet-David?

  If you may want to go read this book, by the way, it's so funny, for four years straight, maybe for a week or two, it's been the number one book for business strategy.

• 2:04:43Adam Sosnick?

  It's great.

• 2:04:44Patrick Bet-David?

  So, there you have it. Oh, he's a chess guy. The guy, he's a chess guy. Go there right there, Rob. Let me just see it. Is it still there? Yeah, number one bestseller in strategic business planning. Let's see what else it's competing with. Go up on that list. Can you click on the strategic business planning? Uh, yeah, zoom in a little bit. Number one, Your Next Five Moves, and then number eight is Choose Your Enemy's Wise List. You're competing with yourself.

• 2:05:03Adam Sosnick?

  You're competing with you.

• 2:05:04Patrick Bet-David?

  It's so wild. But if you've never read it, it's a good time to go read it because it's all about knowing your next five moves, especially during these weird times.

• 2:05:11Adam Sosnick?

  The future looks bright, but also only the paranoid survive.

• 2:05:14Patrick Bet-David?

  You got, you gotta be, you gotta be thinking about that. Okay, so interest rates. Tom, mortgage rates sink at fastest weekly pace. In a year, okay? It was so fast, there's lines outside of banks of people wanting to refinance. Maybe not that fast, but it's going fast. So let me read this story and give it to the great Biz Doc, Tom Ellsworth. All right, Tom, let's read this to you. Mortgage rate falls faster than a year given some relief to the strained housing market as economic conditions softened. Standard 30-year fixed rate mortgage dropped from 6.5% last week to already 6.35% this week, the lowest rate since October of last year.

• 2:05:55Patrick Bet-David?

  According to data from government mortgage securitizers, Freddie Mac demand for mortgage rose by to a multi-year high with falling interest rates. Mortgage bankers observed borrower demand surged to a three-year high last week following a decline in mortgage rates to their lowest since last October. Tom, what is really going on here?

• 2:06:14Tom Ellsworth?

  Okay, here's what's going on. The Fed this week, we're down to hours now. It's gonna be the exact hours and if Rob can get the CME Fed Watch website, we'll look at the ticker right now. But here's what's happening. The Fed is going to lower rates in roughly 48 hours. Could it be a half a point? Probably not, but we are over 91% certain. And this isn't the business guys on Wall Street. These are the analysts and the people that follow Fed monetary policy. It's two days, two hours, 53 minutes and 48 seconds to be exact. And we're gonna get the rate down. Well, so what's happening in advance?

• 2:06:55Tom Ellsworth?

  Why are the mortgage rates going now if the rates aren't gonna be dropped until next week? Well, guess what? There are bonds that hold mortgages and there are bonds out there that help determine the interest rates. So, so Vinnie, this is not a math question, I'm just gonna ask you. You own a bank. Don't mess with Vinnie's head. I own a bank. You own a bank and you have all these mortgages out there and they're, they're at seven and three quarters and some even eight, but around seven, three quarters. It's a big stack and they're paying you interest. I'm doing great. You're a happy bank. I'm happy. And all of a sudden you hear that the interest rates are down at 6.3% and get down to six and a quarter probably this week when this goes out. I don't like it.

• 2:07:36Tom Ellsworth?

  And suddenly they're holding seven and three-quarter interest on your loans and it could be down to six and a quarter. At a percent, percent and a half, that is a magic moment where you can refi and save meaningful on your payment. Now, what does a refi do? You may get the mortgage, but, oh my gosh, Adams Bank may get the mortgage. You lose a customer and the rates come down. The bonds that are holding these are getting very nervous right now. They're waiting for the refi. So, the value of the bond is based on the value of the interest rates. And so, what's happening right now, the bonds have shifted down, which has also moved the tenure, which has moved interest rates, which has actually exacerbated

• 2:08:20Tom Ellsworth?

  it because now people are picking up. So, people with seven and a half to seven and three quarters are able to refi at 6.375, six and a quarter, which is the zone we're in right now. And that is good for homeowners. So, homeowners that bought, Pat, in 2022, right after COVID, maybe they bought because they thought the home prices that were going up were going to keep going up. They jumped in and they bought. Now, they're at a point where they can refi. So, the refi market is starting to come to life. Now, it's more refis than we've had in, I think, two and a half years. However, it's not the all-time high of refis. This, we're still in a kind of a- Of course it's not. We're still in a highly constrained market. No question about it.

• 2:09:02Tom Ellsworth?

  But this is what you call little green shoots, starting to peek up from the soil and looking that maybe the grass might grow. And this is good for Americans that will reduce their payments on homes they own. And it could open the door for home purchases. But we don't need a sudden shock. We need a long-term thaw. So, they also think that there's going to be a quarter point come in November and a quarter point come in December. I think that's what's happening. And the CME watch group thinks that's happening too. So, the answer to the question, if you think about refiing, this might be a time to go out and check with your bank because you could get a six and a quarter and six and

• 2:09:43Tom Ellsworth?

  three H right now. And if you're holding a six and a seven and a half, there's a meaningful difference there all of a sudden.

• 2:09:49Adam Sosnick?

  Well, everything is more expensive in America these days. So aside from your mortgages and what you're paying in housing, cars are more expensive, gas is pretty damn expensive, college tuition is more expensive than it's ever been. You're getting a less of an ROI than you possibly ever have. Healthcare is more expensive. We see what's going on in healthcare. Childcare is more expensive. Raising kids is more expensive. Your groceries are more expensive. Things are getting more expensive. At the same time is our wages for the average worker going up. Very little. So what you have to do in your life is sort of determine where should you be spending your money? Where should you be saving your money? Should you be buying a house right now? Should you be getting a car right now? Should you be getting a roommate right now? Should be having kids right now?

• 2:10:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Definitely not buying a car, but.

• 2:10:32Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, that's true. You know, they talked about the American dream is now no longer. Tom, let's chill, Tom. You talk about the American dream has officially doubled in price, apparently what they say. American dream has surpassed $5 million two years ago. It was closer to two and a half, $3 million. Things are getting way more expensive. So there's only two ways to have more money in your life. You can either make more or spend less. If you're not making more, you have to figure out how to spend less. That's it.

• 2:11:03Speaker 04

  So I own this bank. I own the bank. Do I have to fire anybody right now, Tom? Or am I good? Because I.

• 2:11:07Adam Sosnick?

  The annoying guy in your life.

• 2:11:08Tom Ellsworth?

  You gotta get your marketing people out there saying, hey, we're a great bank. And maybe you proactively go out and grab those refis yourself.

• 2:11:15Speaker 04

  I'm gonna fire them. Go ahead, Tom. I'm sorry.

• 2:11:17Patrick Bet-David?

  All right, let's go. So anyways, that's a breakdown right there for you of what's going on with rates. An interesting story that I do want to bring up Dodge Ram cancels all electric pickup for US amid slowing demand. So remember how everybody wanted to have EVs? I'm gonna go get EVs. I'm gonna get EVs. I'm gonna get EVs. I'm gonna get EVs. Because, you know, I want to make sure, you know, the planet and all this stuff, right? Yes, I'm gonna go get EVs. And then all of a sudden, dude, what's going on here? So Stellantis, which is owns Dodge.

• 2:11:52Patrick Bet-David?

  They own a Jeep, Ram, and a bunch of other things, has canceled plans to bring all-electric pickup trucks to market. The latest product shakeup after competitors' models failed to meet expectations and Congress moved to eliminate tax credits for EV buyers. Antonio Filosa, who took the helm of the French-Italian-American Auto conglomerate this year, is dialing back his predecessor, ambitious EV sales target and prioritizing hybrids and gas-powered vehicles, seeking to stop a multi-year sale decline in North America, key profit engine for the company. The CEO is also taking advantage of the Trump administration push to roll back emission

• 2:12:32Patrick Bet-David?

  standards that imposed major costs from penalties and credits in previous year. Tom, what is going on here with this?

• 2:12:39Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, we'll make it super, super simple. Says, "Gas is very inexpensive right now, and it has been for the year. For, we're not at all-time high on gas. Gas is actually a lighter percent of expense of the consumer wallet right now. And so, gas prices are lower, especially if you're not in states where they put a bunch of taxes on top of them and everything to pay for failed policies. California." And what's happening is now people are buying, you know, gas-powered vehicles, and also, electric vehicles are losing their $7,500 discount that was being paid for by the taxpayers.

• 2:13:24Tom Ellsworth?

  And, you know, electricity, people are saying that it's getting more crowded at certain places to go charge your vehicle. And so, people are saying, "Wow, where's all this real benefit in electric cars, Pat?" And so, people are saying, "Maybe I don't want an electric pickup. Maybe I'll get this pickup right over here that's gas-powered, and gas isn't so expensive and everything, so I'm gonna do that." And that's what's going on. And the Ford F-150 Lightning, which if you read the car magazines, that was like a premier truck, it was like an electric truck done right. I'm not endorsing it, I'm just saying this is what auto analysts say Ford did a good job. But people are like, "No, you know what? I'm gonna go with the gas one, because, you know, I'm gonna lose my federal subsidy,

• 2:14:07Tom Ellsworth?

  it's a pain in the neck to charge it, I gotta get charging at my home." And there's not any push, and guess what? The mandates are loosening up. The mandates are loosening up about it and California can't build energy infrastructure. So guess what's happening to energy? Electricity is actually getting more expensive. So all of that comes together and Dodge guy, you know what? Screw it. We're not making the pickup.

• 2:14:32Patrick Bet-David?

  You know what I would make a suggestion to?

• 2:14:33Tom Ellsworth?

  It's a capitalist decision. It's not gonna sell.

• 2:14:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, you know what I'd like to make a suggestion? Bring back stick shift cars.

• 2:14:39Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh.

• 2:14:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Please. Tom, I don't know about you.

• 2:14:42Tom Ellsworth?

  It would stop people from texting.

• 2:14:44Speaker 04

  I love it. Oh, wow.

• 2:14:45Patrick Bet-David?

  I, I, I absolutely miss stick shift cars. There's nothing like sitting in the car and a guy drives stick shift and it's an uphill.

• 2:14:56Speaker 04

  Oh, in LA?

• 2:14:57Patrick Bet-David?

  And you're trying to test this guy, you're like, and you're sitting there like, I just want to make sure this guy knows what he's doing. Let's see if he knows. Hmm.

• 2:15:05Speaker 04

  That's me. That was me.

• 2:15:08Patrick Bet-David?

  And then you would sit next to a guy and all of a sudden, hmm, and you're like, wow. Legend. Do you realize those legends?

• 2:15:17Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 2:15:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Who knew how to drive stick shift cars are behind us. Do you realize how special of a gift that was?

• 2:15:24Tom Ellsworth?

  Hmm.

• 2:15:24Patrick Bet-David?

  The people who knew how to do it. Matter of fact, I'm in a market. You tell Tom, what is the most exotic sports car to buy, Tom? That is still stick shift for us to consider getting. Can you tell me? Cause I miss driving it. And I'm not even joking right now.

• 2:15:41Tom Ellsworth?

  None of the new stuff is.

• 2:15:42Patrick Bet-David?

  I know. It's boring. You just say.

• 2:15:46Speaker 04

  Rob, what is the best stick shift?

• 2:15:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Something stick shift.

• 2:15:48Speaker 04

  Like old school, like Monster?

• 2:15:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Dude, I don't care. What is the most? I want something with a lot of power, but stick shift, and I want to drive it. What is that?

• 2:15:55Tom Ellsworth?

  You have to, I think you have to go back to like pre 95.

• 2:15:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Acura Integra. Wow.

• 2:16:01Tom Ellsworth?

  No.

• 2:16:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Got some memories in Integras, but that's a long time.

• 2:16:04Speaker 04

  Like Rob, what about like a fast muscle car? What about a muscle car that has stick?

• 2:16:08Tom Ellsworth?

  Uh, you could go back to get yourself like a 550 Maranello or 557 M.

• 2:16:13Patrick Bet-David?

  She's in California, drives a Maranello, Hollywood's her favorite name. You know that song?

• 2:16:20Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, he's talking about a Ferrari.

• 2:16:22Patrick Bet-David?

  And a food chain. You guys don't know this song?

• 2:16:25Tom Ellsworth?

  I know.

• 2:16:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Loving material things, you're kinda lonely. You guys don't know this song?

• 2:16:28Tom Ellsworth?

  Let me tell you something, Pat. I don't know nothing about that song.

• 2:16:30Patrick Bet-David?

  She's Miss California, hottest thing in West LA. You guys don't know this song?

• 2:16:35Tom Ellsworth?

  I don't know anything about that song. I don't know nothing about stiff shifts.

• 2:16:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Do me a favor.

• 2:16:38Tom Ellsworth?

  I don't know anything about cars.

• 2:16:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Please comment if you know that song. Am I the only flipping guy that knows that song? This is a little bit embarrassing, folks. I'm singing by myself. Anyways, last thing before we wrap up, talking about embarrassing. So imagine if you're in the streets, going and talking to people, hoping they say bad things about Charlie Kirk and Trump, and then this is what happens. Go ahead, Rob.

• 2:17:04Speaker 23

  It's just messed up, totally messed up. You know that was messed up. Like, nobody deserved that. He definitely didn't deserve that. He was a good guy.

• 2:17:11Patrick Bet-David?

  You think he was a good guy?

• 2:17:12Speaker 23

  I think he was.

• 2:17:13Tom Ellsworth?

  Scumbag.

• 2:17:13Speaker 16

  Only Kirk you recognize is Captain Kirk.

• 2:17:16Patrick Bet-David?

  The what?

• 2:17:16Speaker 16

  The only Kirk you recognize is Captain Kirk. I don't know Charlie Kirk. I don't know who that is.

• 2:17:19Patrick Bet-David?

  You don't know who it is?

• 2:17:20Speaker 16

  I don't know who that is.

• 2:17:20Speaker 23

  I know who it was.

• 2:17:21Tom Ellsworth?

  That joke felt flawed.

• 2:17:22Speaker 23

  You know, all of us, all of us have flaws. You can't, I can't really tell you what to believe in or how to feel. Like, everybody's having a human experience. Like, why not him for having this human experience or what he believed in?

• 2:17:34Speaker 02

  Even though this belief, what he, even though he says things that are anti-women, black, all that.

• 2:17:39Speaker 23

  I can't judge him for that.

• 2:17:41Patrick Bet-David?

  You can't?

• 2:17:41Speaker 23

  I can't judge him for that. But I can use judgment. He didn't deserve that.

• 2:17:45Speaker 02

  Right. He's a human being. You are very spiritual.

• 2:17:48Tom Ellsworth?

  And you're not.

• 2:17:49Speaker 23

  I can't go left, I can't go left with that.

• 2:17:52Speaker 02

  No, you sound like, you mean left, going, not left.

• 2:17:55Speaker 23

  Cause I'm humanity. I'm humanity and love first.

• 2:17:57Speaker 02

  No, I love that. So the first person I spoke to here didn't want to be on camera and he said, "I can't judge him because I'm not God." And so, let him, you know, let the, whatever the reaction is if the government wants to.

• 2:18:07Patrick Bet-David?

  He's a very cutie. Stop that, Rob. Can you go to the next?

• 2:18:10Tom Ellsworth?

  Wasn't he the weatherman on CNN or something? I don't recognize him. I remember this guy.

• 2:18:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you go to the other clip that the pastor he retweeted? So here's a pastor that Don Lemon retweeted this pastor. I don't know who this pastor is, by the way. What's his name? Pastor Howard John Wesley defaming Charlie Kirk.

• 2:18:25Tom Ellsworth?

  In church.

• 2:18:28Speaker 16

  Charlie Kirk did not deserve to be assassinated.

• 2:18:33Speaker 16

  But I'm overwhelmed seeing the flags of the United States of America at half-staff.

• 2:18:42Speaker 04

  They were for 9/11, dummy.

• 2:18:43Speaker 16

  Calling this nation to honor and venerate a man who was an unapologetic racist and spent all of his life sowing seeds of division and hate into this land.

• 2:18:58Patrick Bet-David?

  This is in church, mind you. Come on. Look at the applause.

• 2:19:04Speaker 16

  And hearing people with selective rage, who were mad about Charlie Kirk, but didn't give a damn about Melissa Hortman and her husband when they were shot down in their home.

• 2:19:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Nobody knows who those people are, buddy.

• 2:19:19Speaker 16

  Tell me I ought to have compassion for the death of a man who had no respect for my own life?

• 2:19:28Patrick Bet-David?

  We can pause it.

• 2:19:28Speaker 04

  The question, do you think God is happy that you're doing this? Or the devil is happy that you're in church and having an applause break for people that are basically like, well, it is what, like, let's not sugarcoat it. They're celebrating, they're clapping and they're like, yeah, he's right, who cares that he's dead? And by the way, the flag was half-mass because it was September 11th. Reverend, father, whatever you're calling yourself. What a disgusting display from Don Lemon to him.

• 2:19:57Patrick Bet-David?

  From the pulpit.

• 2:19:58Speaker 04

  From the pulpit and they're celebrating. A racist and, oh, man.

• 2:20:02Patrick Bet-David?

  And then you just posted something right now from Colin Rugg about Don Lemon not happy about the fact that people on the conservative side, Rob, can you?

• 2:20:08Speaker 04

  Yeah, I put it in the chat.

• 2:20:09Patrick Bet-David?

  It's in the chat.

• 2:20:10Speaker 04

  Don Lemon, he fumes that the right is being mean and irrational to liberals who are celebrating the death of Charlie Kirk. He says, calling Kirk hurtful, discriminatory and ignorant. This is-

• 2:20:23Patrick Bet-David?

  You know what's worse than hurtful? Dead.

• 2:20:26Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 2:20:27Patrick Bet-David?

  My feelings are hurt, the guy's dead.

• 2:20:29Speaker 04

  Yeah, period. And front of his family.

• 2:20:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Go ahead, Rob.

• 2:20:32Speaker 04

  It's a longer clip, but-

• 2:20:34Speaker 24

  You know, this is sort of a two different universes, two different worlds that we live in here in America. And I'm generalizing because there are some folks, you know, there's, I'm in every bunch. There are some who are uh, black folks who are like, yeah, you know, I loved him or whatever. Okay, fine. But those are a few and far between. Let's just be honest. And so for the most part, people don't understand, like, what is this, all of this flags and have staff for? Nine eleven idiot. They had no, most people had no idea who Charlie Kirk was. Most people, what a liar. Right? I meet a lot of people out there and you see my lives are like, I didn't really know him. I just heard about him when this happened.

• 2:21:12Speaker 24

  Because it was mostly for like younger people who are really politically activated, like college people who are, you know, just wanted to, you know, college people like to fight on campus. And when I went to school at LSU, we had something very similar and it was called Free Speech Alley. I think Free Speech Alley is still there. Where you could go to Free Speech Alley and you could say whatever you want. The, the thing is, is that you could then, and you would not get suspended or expelled or, you know, disciplined for saying some shit. People just said whatever it is that they wanted at Free Speech Alley. Much of it was offensive, but I kinda liked Free Speech Alley.

• 2:21:53Speaker 24

  But that's not the America that we're living in right now. We live in an America of cancel culture and it is the cancel culture on the right now. Oh. What the hell's he talking about? That is leading the charge. Dude, look at that, like. And the hypocrisy, I've been writing something about this. The hypocrisy on the right about free speech is, I mean, it's just, it's off the charts. Cause think about it. If you actually believed in what Charlie Kirk said he believed in, didn't quite practice all the time, is free speech.

• 2:22:24Speaker 24

  Then why are you out to cancel people who are using their First Amendment right of free speech to tell you how they feel about Charlie Kirk by using his own words?

• 2:22:40Tom Ellsworth?

  You can pause.

• 2:22:41Speaker 04

  Can I say, can I say one thing, Pat? Do you guys understand something? Don Lamont, all these leftists, when Elon Musk says to the party of murder, this guy is one of the left lefties and he could just walk around in the streets, nobody does anything to him, nobody's killing him, nobody's saying anything, he gets to walk up to everybody. When he goes up to people that don't agree with them, they're like, no, I know who you are, you're the CNN guy and it's all love, they shake his hand and they leave. You know why nobody does nothing? Because you're that side, you're on that side that is the evil side. This is that negative, I, I, I don't even think that these people understand that their souls have been captured, I, I, I truly don't. But like we said, Tom, AOC, every single person that has spit this vile from walls to everybody,

• 2:23:26Speaker 04

  notice how you could walk around, nobody bothers you, nobody assaults you, nobody shoots you, it's your side doing it to the other side. And this is the type of stuff, this is like unbelievable, unbelievable, Tom.

• 2:23:40Tom Ellsworth?

  You know, we took their blankie, as they say, right? They are like, oh, we get to have free speech, we get to say what we want, we get to say about conservatives and when there's any balance or there's any truth that comes out, all of a sudden it's, oh my gosh, how could, how dare you?

• 2:23:54Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, how dare you? And then the bullets start flying. Well, it just proves my point that I always say that the most watered down, least powerful word at this point is racist. You know, Charlie Kirk is racist, okay buddy. Isn't his best friend Officer Tatum? Isn't that, and then he just paraded, didn't he help catapult Candace Owens to stardom? Didn't he help basically start Brexit? Wasn't that part of Turning Point USA? Wasn't he somebody that would talk to literally anybody and encourage free speech? You know, people have had enough, they've awoken a sleeping giant and we've seen it in the UK this week with Tommy Robinson's event, we've seen the vigils and the memorials

• 2:24:33Adam Sosnick?

  all around the world, in the UK, in Australia, and France, and Germany, and Israel, and Italy, and Hungary, and Spain, all paying respect to Charlie Kirk?

• 2:24:46Adam Sosnick?

  Do you want to factor that in? Why did 90% plus of NFL teams take a moment of silence for Charlie Kirk? The five that didn't, you have some explaining to do. So in America today, there's one flag that reigns supreme. It's the American flag. It's not your BLM flag. It's not your Palestine flag. It's not your LGBT woke trans flag. All these people on the left, the Don Lemon crew, they're raising every single flag other than the American flag. Charlie stood for one flag and that was the American flag and they hate him for it. And they're disgusting.

• 2:25:18Patrick Bet-David?

  And by the way, you know, to be fair, cancel culture can happen on both sides. Like for us, if you, if you think about what, what I'm saying right now, when, when you go back and look at the Federalist Paper that was written by, I think 60% is written by Hamilton, if I'm not mistaken, on the Federalist Paper. And one of the things he talked about, he, he says the, the one thing that they realized where they went from a monarchy, Tom, correct me on any of the stuff that I'm saying here, after they went from a monarchy where a guy is saying, I need you to do this, I need you to pay for everything monarchy, right? So you have the imperialism monarchy to then a democracy, which is what? Well, let's see what everybody wants to do. Okay. No, we need you to pay for it, Rob, because you're the rich guy.

• 2:26:01Patrick Bet-David?

  So democracy, the individual wasn't protected. And then you go to the republic, it's like, wait a minute, guys, hey, I want to work harder. Can I be protected? And the leak that they found in democracies was man's ambition and what happens when they get power. The more and more they, they studied history and they give the examples in the Federalist Paper is the fact that you keep seeing examples of people not knowing how to manage power, the moment they get it, they want to control. And this isn't a left thing. Just, just, just so you let you know, this is a left, right, center thing. If a man, this is why Marcus Aurelius was loved as much as he was. Because he was a, he was a great leader.

• 2:26:44Patrick Bet-David?

  If you've never read the book Meditations, do yourself a favor and just go to Amazon and buy the book Meditations. And, and there's one of the ones that I like, the, the version that I like the most, Rob, if you can go there, I'll give it to you right now. Go to Amazon and Meditations and I'll tell you which one to pick up. Cause there's a bunch of them, the, the best one is, it's Gary, Gary, uh, uh. Can you go to it? I'll tell you which one it is. Uh, what's the name on that one? The first guy that wrote, right, the Gregory Hayes, that's the best one. So, uh, buy the one from Gregory Hayes Meditations, that's the best translation out of all of them. There's good ones, but that's the best one in my opinion. You have to know that's what happens. This is why a man of character that leads. You can trust what they're gonna be doing for the most part, right? So for me, the one thing I respect about Don Lemon, the most.

• 2:27:28Patrick Bet-David?

  I would actually have a conversation with Don Lemon. You know what's the one thing I respect about Don Lemon? That we have to give him credit for? He actually plays the clips that make him look bad.

• 2:27:36Adam Sosnick?

  He shows his, well, he has a lot of them, that's the majority of his clips.

• 2:27:38Patrick Bet-David?

  But, but, but, um, but what I'm, let me tell you though, you laugh at it, you ever seen the clip?

• 2:27:42Adam Sosnick?

  I'm not laughing, I'm telling the truth.

• 2:27:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Of Dwyane Wade sitting in SportsCenter telling the guy to make the highlight better as if he jumps higher? I don't know if you remember that commercial from 15 years ago? Dwyane said, no, no, make me seem like bigger, make me seem like I jumped higher. Don Lemon just puts the clips up and it makes him look horrible. And he still does it, you gotta respect him for it.

• 2:28:01Adam Sosnick?

  He shows his losses, his wins and his losses.

• 2:28:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Listen guys, who just lost this last Saturday? Canelo, what happened there by the way?

• 2:28:11Adam Sosnick?

  I couldn't believe that.

• 2:28:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Are you flipping, and by the way, you know what was the most beautiful thing? You know, cocky with your predictions, confident with your preparation, humble in victory or loss. Canelo showed humble humility in victory or loss. He gave the man so much credit when they asked him, who's stronger Mayweather or Crawford?

• 2:28:30Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, he said Crawford.

• 2:28:31Patrick Bet-David?

  He said Crawford.

• 2:28:32Adam Sosnick?

  He said Crawford's better than Mayweather.

• 2:28:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Crawford's better than Mayweather and so, anyways, uh, uh, it is what it is. Gang, once again, before we wrap up, 100% of proceeds, gross revenue of whatever you buy. With USM, getting text message with some of these things are about to be done. Anything you purchase with USA, if you're proud American, if you love Charlie. Whatever you put here, not the profits, not the gross profits. 100% of the revenue from here is gonna go to Turning Point USA. And, uh, we'll donate to them. And I expect us to be doing more of these things moving forward to represent, uh, Them, him, his family, what he's done over the years. And gang, if you enjoyed the podcast, we will do it again on Wednesday and Friday.

• 2:29:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Stay tuned this afternoon. I may be having a conversation with Tommy Robinson, who's going to tell us what happened and what is going on in the UK. God bless everybody. Bye bye, bye bye.

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