“Largest Protest In UK History” - Tommy Robinson: Defending UK Against The Islamic Revolution | PBD Podcast | Ep. 649

Patrick Bet-David sits down with Tommy Robinson for a no-holds-barred conversation on Britain’s largest protest, immigration, free speech, Elon Musk’s support, the monarchy, Qatar, and what’s next for the UK’s political future. ---- Ⓜ️ MINNECT WITH TOMMY ROBINSON: https://bit.ly/43FeUTA 📚 GET TOMMY'S BOOK: https://bit.ly/4jO2vkZ

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• 0:01Speaker 00

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• 0:55Speaker 02

  This was the biggest protest in British history, ever. This is Britain's MAGA. And every move they make, it's just backfired.

• 1:04Patrick Bet-David?

  How did the support from Elon to you happen?

• 1:07Speaker 02

  The left is the party of murder.

• 1:09Patrick Bet-David?

  What do you know about Prince Charles and his relationship with Muslims?

• 1:12Speaker 02

  Qatar are in bed with all of them. They own more in our capital city than Prince Charles.

• 1:17Patrick Bet-David?

  How concerned are you for an event that happened to Charlie Crook to happen to you in the UK?

• 1:23Speaker 02

  It would spark an uprising like the government had in every country.

• 1:43Speaker 04

  Adam, what's your opinion? The future looks bright? My handshake is better than anything I ever signed, right here.

• 1:51Patrick Bet-David?

  You are a one of one?

• 1:52Speaker 04

  My sundries are...

• 1:53Speaker 05

  I don't think I've ever said this before.

• 1:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Tommy Robinson, how you doing?

• 2:02Speaker 02

  I'm good, mate, I'm good, thank you.

• 2:04Patrick Bet-David?

  So, Unite the Kingdom, the protest you had in London, I saw videos of it, Rob, I don't know if you want to pull it up. The videos look like, how many, I hear numbers. I know the people who don't like you, they said it's 100,000. The videos look like millions are out there. What, give me the premise behind the event and how many people was out there? The energy looked amazing with Elon Musk going out there speaking. Maybe tell us a little about the event.

• 2:29Speaker 02

  So this is our fourth event, fifth event. So we started with 30,000, we then went to 100,000, we went to 200,000. And this Saturday, we had millions of bricks, millions, okay? Now, what's funny is watching them say 110,000 without just realising that we had 2 million people watching live on X. So, and then you had millions that would have attended. Everyone there, and anyone watching the videos, which are now reaching tens and tens, and if not hundreds of millions of people, can see it wasn't 110,000. So they just exposed themselves time and time again. This was the biggest protest in British history, ever. Probably doubled the size of any protest. For years, we've heard about the Iraq war protest. It was the biggest thing that this country's ever seen.

• 3:14Speaker 02

  No, this Saturday, Unite the Kingdom, the British public standing up and saying, "We're not being replaced and staying silent anymore." You're not having uncontrolled mass immigration endangering our daughters, endangering our wives, whilst then beating us down with your racist labels or fascist labels or your Islamophobic labels. It doesn't wash anymore. You, it's broken, that has gone. That, that, that power that they had to install fear in a nation, because they did successfully for 20 years have everyone whispering. They had everyone whispering. That's gone. And every move they make, it's just backfired. It's literally like a fire, a fire's burning and they just keep pouring gasoline on it. Even their response to Saturday, they're just blowing the fire up even more. They're giving us more supporters.

• 3:58Speaker 02

  Every move they make, I just sit there and think, there's nothing you can actually do here. Yeah, there's nothing you can do to stop what has started. Now, our purpose of United the Kingdom was to bring people together to this, this is the, this is Britain's MAGA. That's what it is, and it's not going anywhere. It's a, it's a movement of identity, of culture. We've lost our culture. And we've lost it intentionally because they have attacked it. They've attacked it, they've demonized it, and they've celebrated every other culture in this country. And as soon as we want to celebrate ours, what you saw was the neglected, forgotten, silent majority coming out in their millions. And it was a wonderful day. The atmosphere was great. We had singers, we had entertainment. Um, we united this kingdom in, in ways the government can only dream of.

• 4:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Now, let me ask you, so while you're do- how long ago did you set up this date? How long ago did your supporters know this was coming?

• 4:49Speaker 02

  So I gave this date when I walked out of prison.

• 4:53Speaker 02

  So I just spent, as you know, I spent, I've got an eighteen month prison sentence for making this documentary. Remember, the public watched all of this. Hundred and sixty-seven million people watched that film. They know I went to jail and I took the prison sentence for reporting the truth. They know that. When, the minute I got into jail, um, my first phone call, my first, first meeting with my team, as soon as I come in, I just said, "Set the date because we need to start off where we left off." Now, they, they put me in prison, they arrested me on terrorism charges after our hundred thousand event. There's never been a hundred thousand patriots gathering our capital city in a total peaceful, unified celebration. So they were worried by that. And next day I was detained under terrorism legislation at, at the border. And I've, I've actually faced prison for that in four weeks' time.

• 5:38Speaker 02

  Because I refused to give them access to my phone. I'm a journalist. They detained, even when they detained me, they said, "We know you're not involved in terrorism, Tommy, Stephen, but this legislation allows us to do this." And I said, "So you're, and then you have no right to remain silent," in which for six hours I was grilled by counter-terrorism police about my legal lawful activism. As a journalist and also a, a, with the United Kingdom, they won't know who's behind it, how did you fund it, what's your plans next? I just hold them straight. We're not going anywhere. We're, I'll tell you, you won't see my plans next as we continue to grow this movement against you guys. And the reason why I'm doing it is exactly what you've just sat down and said to me. Their first words were, the first question was, "What, what do you think of Britain at the minute?"

• 6:18Speaker 02

  I said it's a totalitarian shithole because look what you've done exactly what you're doing now. This is a total abuse of power when the British public, when you pass your laws, which is what they continually do. Create the problem that they're doing now with mass migration, high levels of crime, high levels of violence. And then they'll come in with a solution, which is their digital ID, which Keir Starmer's government's already talking about doing. Because we will be so desperate because the level of crime and violence, the sexual assault rates has gone through the roof. Two thousand and three, we had eight thousand rapes. Two thousand and twenty-three, we had eighty-eight thousand.

• 6:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Holy moly. Did you say eight to eighty-eight thousand, eleven X?

• 6:54Speaker 02

  Eight to eighty-eight thousand.

• 6:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Wow. So, so while I'm watching this, Elon Musk is a big supporter of yours, big. He, he shared your documentary, which got a couple hundred million views. And the one that he did a year and a half ago, whatever the timeline was, two years ago, you get out of jail. We meet in Bahamas, we do that interview together. And then now Elon Musk was one of the ones that came out in your, uh, uh, United Kingdom. And he had a few words to say, and if you don't mind playing this clip here, and if you can react to it afterwards, go ahead, Rob.

• 7:24Speaker 06

  And then you see how much violence there is on the left. Uh, with our, our friend Charlie Cook getting murdered in cold blood this week. And people on the left celebrating it openly.

• 7:38Speaker 06

  The left is the party of murder.

• 7:42Speaker 06

  And celebrating murder.

• 7:46Speaker 06

  I mean, let, let that sink in for a minute.

• 7:51Speaker 06

  That's who we're dealing with here.

• 7:55Patrick Bet-David?

  How long, how did the support from Elon to you happen? Did he DM you? Did you DM him? How did that relationship start with the two of you?

• 8:05Speaker 02

  Um, I, well, for this event, see, obviously when I was in jail, Elon had spoke up on my behalf, which was, I was very grateful for. And he made, he made our mission complete because I went to jail knowing that maybe no one watched this film. But I took that risk as soon as he shared that film. And he didn't just share that film, Patrick. The most important thing that he did was he shone a torch on the rape of our daughters, something we've been trying to do for fifteen years. He, he literally brought it to the world's attention. So I was very grateful. But when I got out recently with regards to this, I just, I contacted him. And I don't know if you're aware, but because Elon paid my legal bills on this next terrorism case, Elon just picked up the bills for it. He spent, he spent hundreds of thousands of pounds when I'm in my imprisonment, trying to, trying to change how I was being held because I was being

• 8:48Speaker 02

  held in solitary confinement. So he fought for me and he fought for our free speech. In fact, Patrick, as Brits, the only people fighting for our free speech right now, I mean, the United States of America, is Donald Trump, is J D Vance, is Elon Musk. What you witnessed this Saturday, it just couldn't have happened without, without X, without us having a platform for debate, without us being able to share the truth. Because you see that the media are saying 110,000 people. If we didn't have X, if I was still banned, because I'm still banned on Facebook and I'm still banned on Instagram, so which I think Dana White's in charge there, I still don't, now he is, I don't understand it. I've never been convicted for anything. Why am I banned? Why, why is mentioning my name banned? They have me as a dangerous individual. So none of the videos of, of the scenes and the size of the crowds that you can see, no one would have

• 9:32Speaker 02

  even got them if they didn't have X, because that, that they would control all of them like they do. So the public would have been told 110,000 people turned up. And they've done this to us for years. We'd have a demonstration, there'd be 15,000 people there, let's say 2,000, this is even going back years, or hundreds. So, yeah, you know what, we're absolutely grateful. He, it was a great moment for me as well. My kids and my mum and I are there and I've been in a battle here for 15 years. And they got to see the beautiful size of the crowd. I obviously got to interview Elon Musk, if many people get that chance. So he gave us a lot of his time for such a busy man. And I think for us, for our supporters, it would be a great moment. And it was a surprise as well. We didn't let anyone know. So, yeah, it was a wonderful moment.

• 10:13Patrick Bet-David?

  So here's a question for you. You're, you're there. There is tens of thousands of people behind you. News breaks, Charlie Kirk is shot, then assassinated at an event, public event, at a university in Utah. And I see reports here that shows 26 officers hurt. I don't know what the report is, but this is from Birmingham Live. There's another report saying 25 arrested. So you have a government that doesn't want to see you do what you're doing. They don't want your message to spread. And the more they push back, the bigger it gets. How concerned are you for an event that happened to Charlie Kirk to happen to you in the UK?

• 10:57Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'm concerned, but I also believe that if it did, it'd be the final now in their coffin, not mine. Well, it would be mine as well. It'd be the final now in their coffin. No one, no one knows what moment's gonna spark the revolution or... Look, I've always known looking at Europe, something's gonna hit. And when it does, none of us are in control of it, but something's gonna change the direction of Europe. Now, we are heading in the wrong direction. We're being replaced. We're under attack with mass immigration. Now, Northern Ireland, I don't know anything about the history of Northern Ireland. Bloody Sunday changed the direction of Northern Ireland as a historic day. Yeah, I believe if I was targeted in such a way, it would be, it would spark an uprising like the government have never even dreamed of.

• 11:38Speaker 02

  Or could never even dream of. So I believe that would happen. A lot of people telling me we should be careful or you need to be extra careful. I probably do need to be extra careful. I walk everywhere without security. I had the incident recently at a train station in London. I don't have the funds to pay for 24 hour security, yeah. And I am living in amongst it within the UK as a target. But I just think, um, I think that we got in this mess, we're in this mess through being careful. Every, all of us as a country are in this mess through being careful. Now's not the time to be careful. And now's not the time to show any fit. I listened to what Charlie Kirk said. Charlie Kirk actually spoke up massively for me, but not just for me when I was imprisoned. For Brits free speech. He got it. Go back to his comments from 2018. He fully understood what was happening with free speech.

• 12:23Speaker 02

  And then he travelled here recently. He helped shine the torch on it. And if you listen to what he says, and I think that that's what people should try to do, and he will inspire us still now, even though he's dead. The next generation's videos will continue to inspire them. But they took him out because he was, he was so influential in getting the... Whether it be the forgotten or the young men to understand their identity, to understand their purpose, to give them faith. And that's what we said we want to do. We, we... Keir Starmer was voted in off nine million votes. Twenty million people just didn't vote, Patrick, in that election. But twenty million are us. The people who have been told their voices don't matter, their voices don't count. So we're there to tell them, no, your voices do count and you do matter.

• 13:04Speaker 02

  And if we can captivate them and we can electrify the working class, see, a lot of this comes down to class in the UK. They don't like us. That's the reality of it. The establishment do not like us. Okay? Now, we've got 650 politicians in Westminster. How many of them are there to speak to the neglected, forgotten people? How many of them? Not one. We had politicians flying from Poland, France, Germany, Belgium, all over Europe, lead politicians come to speak to the British population. Not one, because the whole building is still the establishment. It doesn't matter if they say they're against the establishment or X, yeah. If they say they're against the establishment, they'd have been there with the people. None. We, so we, we, we want to be the cultural revolution, but this country needs a political revolution. But it needs a political revolution that doesn't censor the people getting involvement.

• 13:49Speaker 02

  So for example, the Reform Party, which is Nigel Farage, which I believe will win the next election, yeah, and will be a hell of a lot better than where we're at. But they still censor and ban. You can't talk about transgenderism, you can't talk about Islam. So we don't need a government that tells the public that they can't raise their concerns. And people are kicked out of their party for doing so.

• 14:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Right.

• 14:09Speaker 02

  Because that's an attack, that's an attack on free speech still. That's not believing in free speech. I saw, I saw Nigel Farage sat in America talking about free speech. They don't believe in free speech themselves. They just don't believe in it. Everyone has to sign an N D A. Everyone has to sign an N D A who's in the hierarchy of Reform.

• 14:23Patrick Bet-David?

  What do you mean by that? Signing an N D A for what?

• 14:27Speaker 02

  Not to talk about me.

• 14:29Patrick Bet-David?

  I know, no, you said Nigel Farage. Everyone has to sign an N D A. What do you mean by that?

• 14:33Speaker 02

  I mean that as a political party, anyone who becomes a councillor or a member of parliament has to sign the agreement that they won't, won't speak about, um, up for Tommy Robinson.

• 14:42Patrick Bet-David?

  So what's your, what's your relationship with Nigel Farage?

• 14:45Speaker 02

  Um, see, I, at our event with a hundred thousand people, I stood there, this is in July twenty seven, and I said, how many of you voted for Reform? And literally every single person put their hand up. Because Reform, Reform become the party for the fed up people, yeah? So everyone put their hand up. So then I asked Nigel Farage, Nigel, stop lying about us. Because Nigel continued, Nigel basically parrots, because remember Nigel isn't working class, he's probably never been to a working class state in his life. And he was an elitist banker. That's Nigel, yeah? So he comes in, he speaks about these issues, but then condemns us. That's what he did. And carried on condemning us. And when I was in prison, Nigel come out and said that I had, he justified my imprisonment,

• 15:28Speaker 02

  which is what I believe caused the fallout with, with Elon Musk. He justified while I was in prison. Now, again, it's like, everyone's seen the documentary, Nigel, right? People know what I've done, right? So he come out and justified it. Then he come out and said that I have convictions on mainstream TV. He said, I have conviction for violence against women. Just made up, just made up. Now this is me, the next leader, and... And that's, and my ex-wife, and my kids had to see this mess. He comes out on TV saying they've got conviction for violence against women. It's just a lie. But all of these things, you may have to remember that when I went to prison, there was a mass movement again to free Tommy Robinson. Nigel come out and tried to put out the fire, yeah? And he done it last time in 2018 as well. So Nigel comes out on behalf of the establishment. That's what I see.

• 16:13Speaker 02

  And that's what many people now see. Since Nigel Farage gave his position to Zia Yousaf, he gave his position to Zia Yousaf. He sold it, sold a position to a Muslim gentleman to become chairman of Reform. From the time that happened, they can't talk about Islam. They asked Nigel in an interview, Nigel's interview, sat down and said, by 2050, I've watched all these interviews whilst I was in prison. By 2050, the Islamic demographic is going to be so powerful in the UK, we cannot alienate them. Now, for me, that's something, that is someone pulling up the white flag. And we don't want to pull up the white flag. In fact, we have to stop the Islamic demographic getting to that point by 2050. Whereas Nigel's doing everything he can to not stop it. The previous government held a no benefits for more than two children, yeah?

• 16:58Speaker 02

  Now that was to stop, my local mum's got three wives and 14 kids, and we just pay for it, yeah? So certain policies have been brought in which could help deter the demographical explosion that we see. Nigel's reversed that. Nigel said he's not bothered about this, that it's impossible to do mass deportations. He's been forced now with the open windows shifting so fast over the last 12 months. He's been forced to say he will do some deportations, yeah? He said, when we talk about demography, when we talk about the demographical change, he's not bothered about the demographic change. He's not bothered if whites become a minority in Britain. He said that's not, he doesn't care about it. We do, we do, just as black Nigerians would care if they become a minority in Nigeria. Just as Japanese would care if they become a minority in Japan. It cannot be allowed to happen.

• 17:43Speaker 02

  But it's accelerating so fast, so quick, and it's not racist to say that. The country can't lose its culture.

• 17:49Patrick Bet-David?

  So then tell me, here's, that's a great point. We're going to get to the culture part, but if, if you have, you're trying to unite the kingdom, great. Nigel Farage, you guys don't seem to have a relationship together, divisions not the same. Uh, then who is the candidate you're going to get behind to be able to do something? Is it going to be you? Is it going to be somebody? I mean, there's got to be someone that they're going to be voting to have that change happen. Who is that person?

• 18:16Speaker 02

  There's a new party now that's come out called Advance UK. It's led by a gentleman called Ben Habib. Um, he's a brilliant, he's a brilliant orator, but he also spoke up for me when I was in prison. Um, and many of the people who were kicked out of Advance for mentioning my name or removed from the party for refusing to back down on rape gangs and Islam. Um, they're now joining Advance UK. So Advance UK is, is the fastest growing political party in British history. It's up to over thirty thousand followers now, so.

• 18:46Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm looking at this guy here, Ben Habib. And he is from Pakistan. His father is Pakistani Punjabi from a Muslim family. And his mother is English and was born in Iowa. So doesn't this contradict what you're trying to push for uniting the kingdom?

• 19:07Speaker 02

  No, it doesn't, because we're happy to, he's an ex-Muslim, Ben Habib. So we're, he understands what we talk about.

• 19:13Patrick Bet-David?

  He's a Christian?

• 19:14Speaker 02

  And also, yeah. So what, what we wanted, what we wanted, well, what he wanted. When he set that up, I don't know if you know Rupert Lowe. So Rupert Lowe was a Reform MP, still is an MP, Member of Parliament. Rupert has been the strongest outspoken parliamentary candidate there is, yeah.

• 19:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay.

• 19:31Speaker 02

  And he was kicked out, he was kicked out of Reform for refusing to back down on the Pakistani back gangs. And Nigel Farage actually censored his speeches, said, stop mentioning that, stop mentioning that.

• 19:41Speaker 02

  Now, mass deportation has now become mainstream, but Nigel told him he can't say it. This was just twelve months ago, or eighteen months ago. So he, he, he was then removed from Reform. So the original discussions with Ben Habib, when Ben Habib set this party up and then it was to be launched, was that Rupert Lowe would be the leader. So currently, Ben Habib is a reluctant leader because he didn't want to lead it. The plan was for Rupert Lowe to lead it, but then Rupert pulled out.

• 20:08Speaker 02

  So that's where the party was at. They've launched anyway, and our movement needs a political home. It needs a home that's not gonna, it needs a home and a party that's not going to kick them out for saying, telling the truth. Because that's why we're in this mess. So I see Advance UK growing massively by the next election.

• 20:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so I'm really trying to find out why Ben Habib would be the candidate. But okay, let's, let's stay with that. Let's stay with that because you need somebody to get behind. I, Charlie Kirk, when the events happened with Charlie Kirk, what was your reaction? When you saw Charlie Kirk getting assassinated, what was the first thing you thought about?

• 20:43Speaker 02

  If I'm honest, I was sat with Tyler Olivier, you know Tyler Olivier, the American YouTuber? I was sat with him and I was at my mum's house. And I looked down at my phone and saw Charlie Kirk's been shot. If I'm honest, my own selfishness was selfish. I was worried about myself and I worried about my children. Because I know my children are about to see this. And when my children see this, I know they're gonna get scared. Because when I was in jail, there's a gentleman called Sawa Mamika, who was a friend of mine. He was in Sweden. And when I was in prison this time, I set up a website called Save Sawa. And I travelled to meet him in Sweden, just eighteen months ago, two years ago. To tell his story, because I could see him getting assassinated.

• 21:27Speaker 02

  And when I was imprisoned, he was assassinated on a livestream for his criticism of Islam. So, and when that happened in prison, I know my children, because I spoke to my ex-wife. She said that my son hadn't stopped crying. And he just hasn't stopped crying because he was so scared. Because he sees me as that same target. So when this happened with Charlie, I was sat there because I was doing a podcast. And I saw it pop up on my phone. And then I saw, boom, my daughter, my son, I have a daughter, so I saw the messages coming in. And then I was, obviously I know how my, it's gonna affect me, but it affects them. And I know Charlie Kirk had children and they were watching and his wife was there. But that, a target, a target was put on Charlie Kirk, just as a target's been put on me.

• 22:11Speaker 02

  Now, the problem is, it's put on, let's not say it's by the left, it is the left in America. My targets put on me are also put in by any establishment figures. For example, there's a woman called Camilla Tomlinley. And when I was in prison this time, she's a right-wing commentator, yeah? Works for right-wing media. She said I was a white supremacist on national TV. Now, if you take what she said, and if you take what she said, she said I was a white supremacist, yeah? Which I'm not, there's no evidence of that, there's no truth in that. When she got interviewed recently and asked about that, she said, well, he believes that Christian culture should be dominant and more superior than Islamic. So that makes me a white supremacist, does it, love? It makes me, it makes me a sensible Brit. So, but that's what she said. So she said I was a white supremacist.

• 22:54Speaker 02

  Then, um, there was another one called Julie Hartley Brewer, who said I'm an extreme racist. There's no evidence, none of these things, yeah? And they'd never backed them up. But if, for example, I was at, I was at St Pancras train station, where a gentleman come up and tried to attack me just, just a month ago. Yeah, and it was massive news because there was a little video of him asleep on the floor. And then, and then there was all the media painting a picture that I'd gone on the run and violently attacked someone. Obviously, I had to do a police interview when I got back, but I was the victim. Yeah, I defended myself. But people like that who attacked me, they actually think they're making the world a better place. The man who's just executed, um, Charlie Kirk, probably believes he is like the next hit.

• 23:36Speaker 02

  Yeah, but they believe these things because they've been indoctrinated and, and the media have weaponized words against them and put a target on them. Same as in me. So that, so I have people who come up to me, um, Patrick, who hate me. Yeah, and I've had so many videos like this over the years. When I actually question them and stand there and talk to them, they don't even know why they hate me. They think I'm this racist and they're on this Nazi, but that's because the media's done a real good job to make me toxic, to attempt to have me toxic, so that no one actually listens to what I'm saying. Now, Jordan Peterson, I have to thank him. Jordan Peterson really bought me and his wife, bought me in from the dark. I was censored, I was deplatformed, I was, I was invisible. And until I got my ex account back, and then when I got my ex account back,

• 24:19Speaker 02

  Jordan Peterson sat me down and done a podcast, which was a risk for him. Because at the time, anyone who talks to me come under attack, comes under attack, and they have done it for years. And, and, well, we know this, you just had it from the Times, don't? For Yumminect app. But, but that, these, this targeting, they've been successful with. Take that, to target anyone who show, who could bring any credibility towards my message. Then they just hope, because of all the lit, the smears and the labels, people don't actually listen to what you're saying, and they don't. Well, they do now, they're starting to.

• 24:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, it's interesting you're saying this because The Times reached out. They wrote an article about you on Mynect, and I, Rob, I don't know if you have the article or not. They reached out to us, they say.

• 24:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you support the fact that Tommy Robinson, they sent a bunch of different questions? And they were able to get Facebook and Instagram to prevent Manect from advertising on Facebook and Instagram for a full year, where we had to get legal involved, asking us, "Why would you allow Tommy Robinson to be on Manect?" We're like, "What do you mean? Why can't somebody ask him a question?" You know, he charges $28 a minute. That's his decision. If he thinks that's what he's worth and people are paying for it, you go put $50 if people want to pay for you. Nobody has a problem. You know, we got Tony Robbins is on Manect and he charges a lot more than that. You got, you know, athletes that are on there, business owners that are on there, actors that are on there. They get to pick and choose whatever they want to choose, whatever they want to charge. But it was interesting when they attacked us with this,

• 25:43Patrick Bet-David?

  just because some people want to ask you a question on Manect.

• 25:47Speaker 02

  Well, Patrick, you see what they've done to you? If it wasn't yourself and your belief probably in free speech, they'd have been successful with any other company. They would have been successful. I'd have been kicked off. I'd have been silenced. And that has successfully worked for them. So as I said, you have the state and then you have the weapon of the state, which is the media. The media want me silenced, so the state don't do it. They get the media to continually attack the companies that ever give us platform. Or say, for example, I don't know if you're aware of what happened. Forty-eight hours before this event in London, Westminster Council contacted the company which we use to host the event. So Westminster Council contacted them and revoked our licenses to set up our speaker systems.

• 26:32Speaker 02

  So there could be no speaker systems. That's 48 hours before the event. Now, and they told the owner of the company, "We will personally prosecute you if you set up those speakers." That's what they told me. So we had an emergency meeting with the police and we're sitting with the police. I've got the full video of this, which I'm going to release. Sat down with the police said, they're trying to provoke us into violence on Saturday. If, if, if we don't have a way of talking to our crowds and a million, million people turn up, there's going to be anarchy and the police are like, we don't want this. So there's been loggerheads, there's been a big in, internal um thing with the police. Cause the council were then asking the police to enforce the licence. The police have then sat down with us and said, we're not enforcing it. So we will not enforce and prevent you sticking up your speakers.

• 27:16Speaker 02

  And it was just the council attempting, which is the government attempting to provoke chaos on the streets of our capital city. That's not their job. Their job is to, their job is to uphold democracy. We, we had the licences, we applied for everything we're right, we, we jumped through every hoop possible. And still, this is what they're doing. And this, and we've faced this for years. So I don't, I, I can't host an event in a, in a building in the UK and I just know I can't, yeah? So I sold a thousand tickets in a week for a sit down event, fifty pound a ticket in Manchester. The council and the police, this is going back years. They went in to the venue and told them, we will take your alcohol licence if you host this event.

• 27:55Speaker 02

  So that's sort of like what happened and that's, and it's been a, it's been a tried and tested method for the, for the media. It works. As I said, they've gone beyond you and they've managed to get meta to, to make sure you can't go on there for four years. They've done this to me from every social media. As I said, I'm still banned. You can't even mention my name on there.

• 28:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I mean, I see, I see that. It's, it's, it's wild. By the way, anybody that's watching this, if you want to support Tommy, just to have free speech and you want to ask him a question or have a call with him, we'll put the link below in the QR code to, to support the cause. But just last week, I'm watching the, the story. What can you tell me about this Shabana Mahmood, Britain's new Home Secretary, who grew up in Birmingham? What, what do you know with her? And what are some things to expect in the future with her in charge?

• 28:47Speaker 02

  Well, she's an Islamist, she's an Islamist, um, just, we can take what she says.

• 28:55Speaker 02

  The first thing to come to her, the most important thing is in Britain, it's not democracy, it's Islam. We need to understand what that means, we need to understand what that means. She, um, she signed off on my solitary confinement every forty two days. So with solitary confinement, there's a, it's called the mandelable, you're only allowed to be held for fourteen days, or the prison, only have the ability. They can hold you for fourteen days, that's, that's meant to be the limit, but the maximum is forty two days. After forty two days, it has to go to the government, and then the government, because you're not allowed to. And then the government have to sign off. Now, Shabina Mahmood, because when I was in prison, she was a justice secretary, who signed off, holding me in solitary confinement, against the advice of psychologists, of medical teams, of everyone, knowing full well the damage that that does to someone.

• 29:38Speaker 02

  She continued it, that's Shabina Mahmood, she is, we're meant to believe that she's going to stop the boats. She's going to stop the massive flood of immigration into our country. It's insane, again, every decision Keir Starmer makes, David Lammy, well, David Lammy, he's putting me, it's insane, really. So, but, um, again, it just helps, I think, to wake people up. Unfortunately, all of these things have had to happen. My imprisonment, Lucy Connolly's imprisonment, a mother for thirty one months for a tweet. Um, Peter Lynch, who was a granddad, who was, these are the riots after Southport, they say riots. He just held a placard and he got two years in jail. So all of these things are what's resulted in the millions you've seen in London this Saturday.

• 30:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I mean.

• 30:22Speaker 02

  It's all, it's all, everything's played its part, from, from Elon Musk, from Jordan Peterson, the interview, to Elon Musk's buy next. And lots of bad things have happened, but you needed the situation, I think, America, you needed Joe Biden. America needed Joe Biden for those four years, because people needed to see, because when they can see it, you know, they need to see how bad it can be. And that's what we're currently going through, we needed Keir Starmer in power. You need to get a position where a government can come in with a mandate. Now Nigel Farage, as I said, Donald Trump made his mandate clear. He clearly said what he's gonna do when he get in, so he can get in power and do it. Nigel Farage isn't, and people are making excuses saying, well, he's just playing the political game till he gets in power. Then he'll do all these things. It's like, he's not gonna, he's definitely not gonna, so.

• 31:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, when you're looking at her, Shabana Mahmood, uh, she said in interviews, my faith, my faith is the center point of my life and it drives me in the way that I live my life and I see my life. And she said her Muslim faith is the core of who she is, who I am. Uh, and she's the first Muslim woman, uh, Lord Chancellor and the first female Muslim Member of the Parliament. So there's, there's a, there's a lot of progress happening there with them wanting to spread Islam and, uh, different people like her getting elected. So your, your concern with how things are growing in UK, from the last time you and I spoke to today, have things gotten better?

• 31:46Patrick Bet-David?

  We spoke a few months ago, since two or three months ago when you and I spoke in Bahamas to today, have things improved? Has it gotten worse? Is it the same? What's the conditions look like in the last two or three months?

• 31:59Speaker 02

  It's getting worse and worse, gets worse and worse every week. The, the borders are still open, the mass immigration is still coming in, sexual assault. Since we spoke, there's been, there's been, there was 12 days in a row where there was sexual assaults by migrants against, um, British women. 12 days, there was a case every, every day. Young girls been sexually assaulted by migrants in hotels, a young 12 year old getting raped by two Afghans who's staying in a hotel. There have been, it just continued, it just continued. And it's not gonna stop, Patrick, it's not gonna get better, yeah? It's gonna get worse and worse and worse, because that, the borders are still open, they're still flooding them in. They said they're gonna smash the gangs, smash the gangs, they've done nothing. It's all orchestrated, they are continuing to flood this country.

• 32:40Speaker 02

  And I think that what Saturday was, was the British public coming together in their millions and say, we've had enough of it. And it, and they need to listen, Saturday was a peaceful demonstration, we wanted a peaceful demonstration. If they continue, there's a dangerous path for the government to go down. They're, they're that detached from the British public, all of them are, you know, even the Labour Party. The Labour Party meant, that's the party that was, meant to represent us, the working class. Ninety percent of their members of Parliament were privately educated. I'm sorry, they know nothing about the working class. They've never lived it, they've never lived where we live. Now, we are the majority in this country. And it's us who are affected by the mass controlled immigration. Or it used to be. Now, it's everywhere, problems everywhere.

• 33:25Speaker 02

  People who didn't see the problem now see it. So, but again, whilst it's devastating, whilst it's bad, unfortunately, this all has had to happen to get the public to a position where they are awake. And Britain's awake now. As I said, I've been in this activism, trying to wake this country up for fifteen years. I've been asking, where are the men of England? Where the hell are the men of England? How are we allowing this to happen? And the country, what I saw on Saturday was a proud nation and proud people. And if people had that pride, we wouldn't allow any of this to happen. We allowed it to happen because we lost our pride, we lost our identity, we lost our culture, we lost our belief. We lost it and a void was created. And then into that void become every other ideology wants to bring the destruction of this nation.

• 34:06Speaker 02

  Whether it be Marxism, whether it be BLM, any organisation or ideas were promoted by our politicians. Islam, it's filled a void, it's filled a void after we lost identity. And do you know what? Do you know, for years, I used to hold, when I set things defensively, we'd hold a demonstration. And the church leaders would be on the other demonstration protesting against us with the Muslims. So the church leader, who's got no one in his church, by the way, has no people there, really, empty churches. They were siding with them. The church lost their identity. The church failed Christianity. The church becomes so weak in this country and embarrassing, flying LGBT flags from their church. They're going back on all of their values whilst Islam don't budge.

• 34:49Speaker 02

  Not now, there is a Christian revival happening right now in Great Britain.

• 34:52Patrick Bet-David?

  How, how, how did the religion of Islam grow so much in, in UK? By the way, you know, what, what do you know about Prince Charles and his relationship with Muslims? Because he took an interest and he wanted to study them and he's been very respectful about it. But there was a high level of interest into him. What, what is his relationship with Muslims?

• 35:10Speaker 02

  He loves Islam.

• 35:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Why is that?

• 35:15Speaker 02

  Who knows, who knows mate, maybe he isn't Muslim, who knows. He, he, he comes out and makes comments like, they're great respect for Sharia. Sharia would subjugate every single one of us, Charles. But, to be honest, he's not my king, yeah. And I think most people feel that way. And he's not, not just on Islam, on the whole World Economic Forum, the whole global climate change, just everything he's been part of and supported. Everything, and he's meant to be non-political, yeah. The Queen was non-political, didn't make any of these comments. Charles, total opposite. So, and I think it should, it should have skipped Charles and went straight to Prince William and King. Because the, the support for the monarchy is probably at the lowest ever, I'm guessing. People have had enough.

• 35:59Speaker 02

  And he is meant to be our king, and his, his people, which is us, our daughter's been raped from one end of this country to the other, and they're continually being put in danger. And he, he's said nothing. He speaks up for the great contributions Muslims have done. Like, if there, if there was no Islam in the UK, we wouldn't even be having these discussions on immigration. Because immigration hasn't caused the problem, it's Islamic immigration that's destroying this nation.

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• 37:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I'm looking at this with the comments he made, Rob. There, there, there is multiple comments he's made. Views on Sharia law. He made it back in the days as well as some of the ones that's been recent, if I'm not mistaken. But he's constantly seems to be supporting it. And by the way, if, if he was one, let's just say he is Muslim, of course, now it would make sense that this, these types of things are happening. You know, it would show that there is support for it. No one's fighting back. Um, but there is no documentation that he is a Muslim himself. There's just a lot of stories written about it.

• 37:56Speaker 02

  He was also, what was he given? He was handed a, was it a million pound cash? That justify Google that story from Qatar, I believe. But he, he, he was given a million pound cash, like a bag of cash. And, um, yeah, it's hard to know, but he is part of the same elite, yeah? Which has the destruction of every one of our countries, including his own. They are flooding this country. No one can look at Great Britain and say it's going in the right direction. No one. Everyone from around the world is now laughing at Great Britain. They're laughing at. Where is that?

• 38:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, it says right here, it was alleged that between 2011 and 2015, Prince Charles is reported to have accepted three million pounds, 2.6 million in cash from Sheikh Hamad bin Jasim bin Jabar Al Tani, a former prime minister of Qatar. The cash was allegedly given in physical form, suitcase, a holdall. What is that, in front of Mason, Kerry, Iraq? These payments were then deposited into the Prince of Wales charitable fund. Uh, the office is denying any wrongdoing.

• 38:57Speaker 02

  What's that sound like? A big bag of cash? Sounds legit, doesn't it? That's just the one that we know about. Well, Wales, because Qatar, Qatar is the problem. Yeah. Qatar's the big problem. Now Qatar is funding nearly a billion pounds in Islam, Islam, Islamization of Europe. Every French gallon, Qatar are behind, yeah? Including separating and segregating and polluting the minds of those Muslim communities. Qatar are behind. Qatar are behind the Muslim Brotherhood. Qatar are in bed with all of them. Qatar are in bed with Hamas. And whilst they do this, they're buying their way through our country. They owe more, they owe more in our capital city than Prince Charles. So.

• 41:53Speaker 02

  From that, I recorded the whole thing and he tells me, Tommy, when, when, when there's a room of 200 people and David Cameron comes in, that was our then Prime Minister. He walks past everyone else and makes a V line straight for me. I've already been offered my seat on the Cabinet, what Cabinet seat I want. And I don't have the view of just getting to be an MP, Tommy, or in the Cabinet. I'm going all the way to the top. You are going to have an unshakable ally after this.

• 42:19Patrick Bet-David?

  What year is this? What year is this?

• 42:22Speaker 02

  Uh, Google it, it'll come up. Af Salamin, um, 14, 15, 2015?

• 42:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Got it. I'm tracking.

• 42:30Speaker 02

  So, sorry, I've been ill, man. 2015. So, he, he sits down, he tells me all this. I get it all on camera. And then I go away and a week before the election, I walk into the Daily Mail. Because I wasn't a journalist at this point. Yeah. I was just a street activist. So, I walked into the Daily Mail and I said, right. It was a week before the election. I said, here is your next Tory Minister, Cabinet Minister. And he's offering me money and he's offering me friendship and partnership if I can fake a demonstration. And he, he's doing it with these people. So, when you read that story, you wouldn't read that story and know it was me that gave them that story, yeah?

• 43:10Speaker 02

  Because I had to sign an NDA and then they hammered me in the story, but I didn't care because I'd, I should have got, I should have got recognition for this, yeah? Because I prevented. So, when, when this come out, then the Mail, and do you know what he said in this? He said Qatar, he has already secured funding from Qatar to end all the homelessness. This is in his area. So, he said that he had a full eight-year plan in his area, that then in eight years, that when you look at his track record, he would have sold homelessness. He, he had millions and millions coming in in investment from Qatar, all set up. So, he had, he had everything planned for his next four to eight years, where he would regenerate the entire community of his area. So, it just looks great for him by the time he gets a point, he wants to go to the top.

• 43:54Speaker 02

  Then they do an investigation, once I out this, the media then start looking into him. They find leaflets they had made, about three, four years before he joined the military. Talking about him supporting the穆罕默德·伊德in, taking over towns and cities in the UK to take over and have an Islamic caliphate in the UK. So basically, he went undercover as a jihadist, spent ten years. Went to Sandhurst, then was a captain for ten years in the British Army. There was a bout, at this point, to be a cabinet minister for our government, until I out him. And when he rang me, so when I was in the Daily Mail, I then get a phone call from him. And this is the problem, I get a phone call and he says, Tommy. I said, yeah, he goes, I've just had the Daily Mail on the phone.

• 44:38Speaker 02

  I said, yeah, he said, what's going on? I said, some things ain't for sale. That's it, you cheeky, you cheeky bastard. So, the problem is, most politicians are for sale, yeah? We've just seen, then, what do you think that bag of three million pound cash is about? People, even our royals are for sale, looking at that.

• 44:56Patrick Bet-David?

  It's not a lot of money though, three million pounds is not a lot of money to give up a country that was once the, once UK, it was Great Britain. The Great Britain, right? Is it worth only three million pounds? That's not a lot of money.

• 45:10Speaker 02

  How many three million pounds? Qatar spent a billion, Qatar spent a billion to do this, Qatar have funded it all. So Qatar spent a billion. Now, what they used to do is, you used to be able to get people to convert. They'd spend street dowels, all these charities. Like, my hometown has a shop in our town centre called Discover Islam. Funded to charity, and its purpose and its job is to convert the Luton population to Islam. It's to go out and reach the non-Muslims and bring them in. This is all mainly comes back from Qatar and places like this, yeah? Now, they used to do that, now they just get the influencers and convert like Sneak-o. Like take, like people, the people that, that's then powerful.

• 45:54Speaker 02

  So that then is worth hundreds of millions to them to pay because they get more, more people convert. But with Prince Charles or with the country, that three million pounds is one that they've had to declare. Who knows what else is going on? But I know that the money that they put into the country, um, Qatar is huge. And the government are bending over for them.

• 46:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes.

• 46:13Speaker 02

  Bending over for them whilst allowing them to, because they need them. Like now, France, I'm looking at France doing with Qatar, but they need their money. So they need their money, so they sort of turn a blind eye to the Islam- Islamization of our country. And allow them to, allow them to back it as well as Muslim Brotherhood. How are the Muslim Brotherhood not banned? How is this terrorist organization not banned in our country? The danger of it, how? Even Hisbath here, Hisbath here are now banned. But why weren't they banned for the last two decades? When they're banned in, in the United Arab Emirates and many Muslim countries. But in our country, they were allowed to just foster. Every single Islamic society in the country, in our universities, was Hisbath here for the last two decades. Now, how, that's a terrorist group.

• 46:55Speaker 02

  And, and you've allowed them to sell Islamic societies bases in every university. And you wonder why, when you see the now level of antisemitism and the hatred of Jews coming out of our universities. And it's like, it's not hard. You've literally had a camp whose purpose is to do that, to have bases in every, every bloody university across the West, including the United States of America. It's mental. It's just mental when you look at, and, and many Muslim countries and Muslim nations know how to deal with these groups. So they ban them and they come down and look a ton of bricks. We don't ban them. We come down on anyone who talks against them with like a ton of bricks.

• 47:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. You know, when you're saying Qatar, of, of course, the World Cup, when they were allegedly paying bribes for the World Cup to get there. And you've seen different numbers from ten, twenty-five million to eight hundred eighty million. And then obviously they did what they did and people went to the World Cup saying, what was this all about? This didn't even make, why would you do the World Cup in Qatar? So they are famous for allegedly putting money into things. But I, you said something about the, the rallies in, in, um, going up against and finding Jews. Okay, so your rally takes place. I'm trying to think what, how bold you guys are being. There's two rallies. This is Mohammed Hijab, okay, which I don't know, have you guys ever met each other or no?

• 48:12Speaker 02

  No, Mohammed sent me recently, he thinks he's clever, so he said, this was to intimidate me, so he sent legal letters to my children's home, that's what he did. Now he knows I don't live with my children, do you? So he sent legal letters, but that was, that was to let me know, because I was talking about him. That to let me know, I believe, for him to threaten me for where my children are. So that's what he done. I, I sent the letters back within, because he's, I, I do my homework on everyone. So I sent my letters back to his personal address the next day, I just returned them straight to him. Said, don't play with fire, you muck. So he, he is an Islamist, he's a radical, he supports, and I come out and said he's a caveman.

• 48:53Speaker 02

  And now recently again, he said his Muslim law firm have sent me all these legal letters now again, saying they're gonna sue me. But I said the same, like, I've already been sued, I've been bankrupt. I, I said he's, he's a caveman who supports paedophilia, or apologises for paedophilia. He's a paedophile apologist, that's why he said he sued me for recently. But Mohammed Hijab, the problem is, see, not even YouTube. Mohammed Hijab, we were sent, deplatformed, deleted from everywhere, for talking out against these groups. Mohammed Hijab supports these groups, justifies it, and he's got a monetised channel, so he gets paid to do it. The unfair treatment against people speaking out compared to the radicals, they were left alone. But yeah, Mohammed Hijab's dangerous.

• 49:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, so this is him, Rob, if you wanna, because I wanna show both of them. This is him, which the direction it's going, it's looking like it's gonna be pretty nasty in UK for a minute. So, Rob, can you tell me what this is about, this is when, this is?

• 49:51Speaker 07

  I'm not sure of the exact date, I know this was in the past year or so. This is Mohammed Hujab running through the streets of London looking for Jewish people.

• 50:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, play the clip, play the clip, Rob.

• 50:10Speaker 08

  It was terrifying. The boys had to be rescued by the police as bottles and eggs rained down on them.

• 50:21Speaker 08

  Mohammed Hijab then threatened a police officer that he'd kill the boy's dog if he saw it again.

• 50:27Speaker 02

  However, when those Zionists came in with their dogs, that was an act of provocation. So what we're saying now, and I'm making it very clear for everyone to understand, if those dogs come close to us again, we will see it as an act of aggression and we will kill those dogs. We will put them down.

• 50:42Speaker 08

  Hijab and Dawa then led the crowd to Spiegel's corner and as the mob marched through London's streets screaming,

• 50:47Patrick Bet-David?

  "We'll find some Jews. We want their blood."

• 50:50Speaker 08

  The police did nothing. Let that sink in.

• 50:54Patrick Bet-David?

  So this is what I want to know. If you can pause. So while this is happening, Tommy, what happens to them? Is this open game in London where you can do this and nothing's going to happen to you?

• 51:05Speaker 02

  Nothing happens. You know, cars travelled down. When you look at people being detained for hate speech, you've got to see this video. Cars travelled down from Manchester, so two and a half hour drive, to drive through the Jewish area of London, to shout out the windows, "We're going to rape your daughters." That's what they've done. Now, there's a video of it, so you hear them do it, but they didn't get prosecuted.

• 51:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Who's saying that? Who's saying we're going to rape your daughters? Who's using those lines?

• 51:31Speaker 02

  Cars from Muslims come down from Manchester into the Jewish area of London, to drive around the Jewish area of London, to scream out the windows, "We're going to rape all your daughters. We're going to rape all your daughters." Now, they don't get prosecuted for any of this. Yet, anyone who says anything, or remotely even against the government, has been thrown in jail on our side. So again, these hate speech laws are brought in. They're not brought in to tackle hate speech. They're brought in to silence the indigenous population whilst their country is changed beyond recognition, to make it so that no one can speak about it, because they're not there to stop. If they were there to stop, like, we saw them calling for jihad on our capital city after October 7th. Literally standing there saying, "Call in for jihad, the group doing it with his butt here." When they did that, and they had a banner about Muslim armies rising.

• 52:18Speaker 02

  When they did that, the Met Police put out statements saying that, "Oh, there's plenty of different meanings, there's different meanings of jihad." So you must think we're stupid, but they continually allow this. So Mohammed Hijab has even ever been arrested. There's another video of him where he travelled up to Leicester, when mobs of Muslims went hunting Hindus, yeah, just last year in Leicester. And there's a video of him there where he's absolutely attacking Hinduism and attacking Hindu gods. Has anyone done anything similar? So they just don't get prosecuted, they don't. And everyone saw it, so again, another important role to get the country to where it's been this last weekend, unfortunately was October 7th. October 7th and the reaction to that, the hatred across the West in all our capital cities.

• 53:01Speaker 02

  But in London, the ability for Hamas supporters to take over our capital city week in, week out and not face arrest. And the public are watching them committing crimes, seeing their crimes committed with their own lives. And the only people facing arrest are the people there talking out against Hamas. So people watch all this, this two-tier policing. Two-tier policing becomes just a part of our vocabulary.

• 53:21Patrick Bet-David?

  So I want to play this other clip, Rob. When you, when you guys are doing your protesting, this video is that goes viral as well. Can you, can you have the video, not this one, Rob, this is the other one that they're protesting in the streets. You, the, the one that Humberto just sent you that you pulled up. You just had it up, Rob, on the screen. Uh, uh, you literally just had it up a minute ago. Uh, um, do you know which one I'm talking about or no?

• 53:42Speaker 07

  No, let me find it.

• 53:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Uh, so okay, let me pull it up to see which one this is. So, uh, uh, I'm going to put a thumbs up for you to find it. So thi- this is.

• 53:51Speaker 07

  Oh, got it, okay.

• 53:52Patrick Bet-David?

  This is, the protests are happening on your end 24 hours ago. Where I'm trying to go with this is, if this is, you know, the Unite the Kingdom, and they're screaming, "Who the F is Allah?", these are the chants, right? If you want to play this clip, Rob, go ahead.

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• 55:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, you can pause it right there. So, from a guy, from an outside looking in, Tommy, from a guy from the outside simply looking in, these two stories here, with what Hijab is saying and then what these folks are saying, you're weeks, if not months, away from chaos in the streets, in waves, in ways we may have not seen in a while. Are you not, are you not sitting there thinking to yourself, "Okay, this thing's gonna get very, very nasty the next 30, 60, 90 days"?

• 55:52Speaker 02

  I'm thinking that unless the government addresses this issue, it's gonna get nasty. Unless the government, unless people see light at the end of the tunnel, unless they see a solution to the destruction of their nation, people are gonna go to desperate measures. And I've been seeing this for a long time. Now, with regards to those quotes, all we ever hear is "Al-Aqaba", and then usually a bomb gaffe, or someone gets stabbed, or someone gets killed, or it's used in a inflammatory attack sort of way, where they're screaming aggressively over issues. Now, I told a story this week. We paid respect to a gentleman called Roy Lerner. When we had the London Bridge terrorist attack in London, where three jihadis rounded a van into people, then they jumped out with knives, and they went into Borough Market, like a little food stall area of London.

• 56:37Speaker 02

  And they went in a restaurant and started stabbing women in the neck and butchering them. And they murdered loads of people. Now, as they'd done that, there was a Millwall football supporter there. Millwall are famous. So, we paid tribute to him at the event, and someone sung a song. And the song was, the song was, had them screaming "Al-Aqaba", and Roy Lerner said, "Fuck you, I'm Millwall", and he started fighting with them. He was stabbed lots of times. Do you know what, did he get recognition for that? No, he actually got arrested for making comments about Islam months later. So he was stabbed, butchered, all over his body, watched people be murdered.

• 57:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Seriously?

• 57:13Speaker 02

  And they arrested him, put him on a prevent course for his, for his wrong, wrong, wrong thoughts on Islam. That's what they did.

• 57:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Where, where did this happen? What, what's, uh, what city was it in? What was it said?

• 57:26Speaker 02

  It was a London Bridge terrorist attack and his name was Roy Lada. So pull up, you have the pictures of him. Um, he was in a hospital bed and he, he obviously didn't remember anything, but then all the other witnesses were like, as the terrorists were stabbing everyone, one man run at them and he shouted, he shouted, fuck you on Millwall. Which is quite funny because Millwall football heroes are very well known across the UK, um, across the world, that's it. Yeah, he said, fuck you on Millwall. But, um, and he didn't get recognition. He's never had, I actually done a sit down interview with Roy, a podcast with him to understand what happened. And he went into a spiral after this, a post mag stress disorder. He had no help and then he, and then he faced prosecution and arrest from the police instead of help.

• 58:09Speaker 02

  Um, for having the wrong thoughts on Islam, which is again.

• 58:14Patrick Bet-David?

  But, but, by the way, uh, uh, so, okay. So while this is taking place, the two of you, uh, have you guys, have you and Hajar ever seen each other or ever talked to each other one on one?

• 58:25Speaker 02

  No, I've never seen him. Never seen him. So.

• 58:29Patrick Bet-David?

  What would happen if you guys were in the same room talking to each other?

• 58:33Speaker 02

  Uh, Ali Dawa, who's his friend, Ali Dawa done a campaign where he was going, looking for my family home. And he done a video and it was at the end of my mum's old house, wrote. He done a video saying, all right, Tommy, and the part behind it is my mum's, my mum's, where my mum used to live. So he, again, it's what they do, he's trying to intimidate me. He's at the wrong house and then he rings me up and then he rings me up on, on live record. And I didn't know he was recording, but he said about coming to my house. I just said, it'll be the last thing you do. You'll meet your 72 virgins if you come to my house, mate. It will be the last thing you ever do. So, because these are jihadis, that, that's who they are.

• 59:14Speaker 02

  They pretend they're not, they try and play the silver tongue clever line, but they're dangerous and they're radicalizing and they're recruiting. And they act as like the moderate level to bring, or, or, or sort to bring the youngsters in. And that's what both of them do, but they're like a little partnership, Ali Dawa and Mohammed Hija. But we've been, as I said, if you look at what, I've faced a full weight of everything against me. They don't get anything. They don't get arrested, they don't get criticised. But they're both on camera saying that they'd let, that let, one of them's on camera saying he'd let his daughter be married at nine years old. But he's got a daughter. Now, personally, I think for her own safety, she should be protected from a father like that, or for that Islamic belief. But the problem is, we have lots of underage marriages going on in the UK.

• 59:55Speaker 02

  Google it. Google Islamic underage marriages, across mosques across this country, they're marrying children. And our government, again, is too sensitive.

• 1:00:04Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't understand that. I don't understand why any of that would, uh, why the government's, a child marriage thriving in the UK due to legal loopholes, warren rights groups. Go a little below on a letter to the PM. What year is this Rob written?

• 1:00:17Speaker 07

  It says, uh, twenty twenty one, May twenty twenty.

• 1:00:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Zoom in a little bit, so I can read, legal loopholes. Allah sixteen twenty in England was married, parent consent and exploited. Of course, more than twenty organisations have signed a letter to the Prime Minister insisting current forced marriage laws does not go far enough to protecting young people. Yeah, I mean, you know, thi- this to me is common sense. The only way, Tommy, I see

• 1:00:41Patrick Bet-David?

  this being allowed and look the other way is the power has to be from all the way at the top. It's the only way I see it.

• 1:00:47Speaker 02

  Even, even, even female genital mutilation. It's been a crime in this country since the eighties. Carries a fourteen year prison. Fifty five thousand British girls.

• 1:00:58Patrick Bet-David?

  What'd you say? Say that one more time. Fifty, fifty five thousand, what? We lost you for a second. Fifty five thousand?

• 1:01:04Speaker 02

  Fifty five thousand girls have had their genitals mutilated. So Muslim girls had their clitorises cut off, yeah? Which endangers them, which is dangerous, sometimes means they can't have kids, lots of problems from it. Um, mental health problems for the rest of their lives from it. But no one faced prosecution. I think the first prosecution was last year, or the year before, like a little token case. But with these children, they're allowing them to be mutilated. And to be honest, many of these problems, like even the grooming gangs, if we were to lock up the parents of these children, just off those figures, it would take up every prison cell in our country. So. Some of the problems are that big that they just allow them to happen. Cultural sensitivity. We allow your little girls to be mutilated because we don't want to be deemed as extreme or racist

• 1:01:49Speaker 02

  or a government that's oppressive. So we allow a crime that carries a 14-year prison sentence. They literally just allow, just Google, Google on the female genital mutilation. It's insane what they've allowed in this country to happen. Because those little Muslim girls, they're little British girls. They're born in Britain and they should be protected, but they haven't been. Yeah, because they allow it. And some of those marriages are happening to 12-year-old children. 12-year-old little girls being buried in mosques across our country. And again, we're extremists for pointing out and it's, and insane it has to come from the top. It's like, it's not a mistake. Mass immigration is not a mistake. It's happening. There's an attack on every Western nation. Our country's being flooded. Our cultures are being diluted.

• 1:02:32Speaker 02

  All of the, all the while, while they're doing this, as I said, the mass corporations are benefiting from this. So, and, and the European Union and groups like this don't want individual countries to have individual identity. How do you get them away from, I'm German and I'm Spanish. You just flood them. Flood them with new cultures that, that then break down that resistance, break down that family, break down that community. And that's what we've seen happen. We don't really have strong communities.

• 1:02:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Tommy, let me ask you. Tommy, let me ask you. I'm sorry to interrupt you. I'm still, I'm still in shock. I'm just looking at this right now, the numbers. The estimate of 137,000 to 170,000, given a broader view of how many might be living with FGM is what they call it. FGM, which is called Female Genital Mutilation in UK. So, so President Trump, when he found out that the fentanyl was coming in from Venezuela and what was going on there, they went ahead and they got actively involved in the issues that was going on in Venezuela. What, what role or interest does the president have in US, hearing things like this that

• 1:03:40Patrick Bet-David?

  are happening, yet the, the president is a Christian man. He's a white man and he's seeing what's happening in UK. He's got a lot of, he's got a lot of respect for the country, the history of it. Who is, who is in his ear for him to find out the stuff that's going on there to be involved and maybe influence the, the UK government to be a little bit more actively involved while these young girls and young kids are being, you know, affected by it?

• 1:04:06Speaker 02

  Well, he already has got involved on the free speech issue. Now, if they can take our speech, which is their goal, we can't even talk about these issues then. So there's an Islamophobia bill that the Labour Government are attempting to pass. If that passes, me giving you the facts and the statistics about Islamic rape gangs would become illegal. I'd face criminal prosecution. So they're coming for our speech. I know that America just stopped them getting access to every one of our messages on these and spying on us. That America did that, yeah. J D Vance did that. Your Republican Party have done more to fight for our free speech than anyone. There's no one here fighting for it.

• 1:04:47Speaker 02

  Because, again, not only do we not have free speech, but they don't even believe in it. Just as I said now with the Reform Party, they don't actually believe in free speech. So you have a country and then the new generation coming through also. If you look at some of the, from their indoctrination in the education system, many of them don't believe in free speech. If we don't have our speech, then we can't even highlight all these issues. So I think Donald Trump and America are all obviously keeping a close eye on the developments of Europe. Do you know when J D Vance went to Munich and he confronted them on free speech? He told them, "You don't have to worry about Russia and China. Your biggest enemy is within." And do you know what that was like for us to hear? Do you know what?

• 1:05:30Speaker 02

  Because hope is contagious. And we have hope. I think you can see by this Saturday now, the public have hope. They also realise we're not alone in this fight. It's not, because we've always been alone, yeah? We've been under attack and we've been alone. But now we have the leader of a free world, who's seen this, who speaks about this. The encouragement that gives us, Elon Musk, the encouragement is given to the public to have such a huge character and successful man. Just speaking out. In America, you just speak facts and you speak truths, which people have been too scared to speak here. Everyone's been scared. Which I know that sounds mad and it's quite embarrassing, really. You look at what I'd say is a nation of fearless men, or throughout history, the toughest men,

• 1:06:13Speaker 02

  who have always fought tyranny, who have always sacrificed, who have all been willing, always been willing to go to battle. And then I look at that and think... We were paralyzed through fear. We allowed a generation of our daughters to be raped. We actually allowed this. But I think when we get through this, people will look at this era and just in absolute shock of what was allowed to happen under the guise of diversity and under the power of political correctness. People really underestimate the power, but it's that powerful. And the problem you're gonna have in America is when the Islamic community becomes such a vote bank and they're such powerful that they then swing states.

• 1:06:57Speaker 02

  That's when their power really comes because when you look at the UK and you look at the problems in the UK, I think they still say it's only 6% Islamic. It's like Jesus Christ, mate. What the hell do we think it's gonna be like at 20%? It's no one actually planning this. There's no one planning ahead here. So there's no one looking, because they're planning it, they've been planning it for 400 years. They're planning and their goal is caliphate and world domination. That's what Islam wants. That's it. It's in the book. So if someone's actually planning, our politicians are planning every four years. Someone needs to be looking at 20 years, 30 years, 40 years.

• 1:07:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, I believe that. I don't think they're slowing down. I've given my strong opinions on that when it comes down to the states and I don't think they'll stop until they get what they want or America changes certain policies. By the way, I'm curious. Did you see the recent Banksy art that was put up, I think on like just a week ago or something? Did you see that art piece? I think it is in UK if I'm not mistaken. Baxin's latest mural has been scrubbed away, a look at the artist, other works that were destroyed. What can you tell us about the Banksy paint, uh, Banksy art in UK?

• 1:08:05Speaker 02

  I think it's even more powerful when they scrubbed it, like the message. Because it was about the corruption and the judges coming down on the people.

• 1:08:14Speaker 02

  Which is because Banksy was doing art, pro-refugee art, I thought. Like just maybe he's had his moment as well. Maybe he's had his moment to realize, like a lot, like a lot. Do you know what else changed this weekend? Was that there were celebrities. There were celebrities at our event and quite a few of them. Which is, you see when they, when it becomes acceptable to speak, then because I can tell you from my direct messages, how many professional footballers, how many boxers, how many of them offer me their support all the time, but none of them publicly. None of them publicly. Then this weekend, there was more, I don't wanna name them, I don't wanna bring trouble to them.

• 1:08:57Speaker 02

  But there were more people who stood up this weekend and I was surprised to see some faces there. And encouraged, totally encouraged. Because it's when, you've had this in America. I used to look at America and be envious, because you had people with big platforms, like yourself. Like Charlie Kirk, you've had lots of them who are mainstream, who are credible. Who has, who has spoke openly and honestly about issues. And you can't, we've never had anyone. We've never had anyone at that level. Anyone in media, anyone in, anyone in government, we've never had anyone. So, it's always been left to us, which, when it's left to us. It was quite easy for them to pigeonhole us as a certain demographic. Young men, working class men.

• 1:09:37Speaker 02

  So it wasn't that difficult for them to do that. They're struggling to do that now, especially with the amount of women. It's like a women's army has formed. I don't know if you've seen the group, the Pink Ladies. Now, these protests, these organic protests, these sporadic protests that are screening up across the country are led by local women in many of the issues. Women speaking out, so, yeah, but with regards to Banksy Art. The whole country knows now we don't have a fair judiciary. We have a corrupt judiciary. We have a corrupt judiciary which attacks people based on their political ideas. And that's, and everyone can see it. Everyone can see the unfair treatment.

• 1:10:11Patrick Bet-David?

  For him to do it, but for him to do it is a big statement, by the way. Rob, can you, can you show the picture of what happens after they try to scrub the mural? I send you a picture of it if you wanna just pull it up. Because the way it looks, if you just go back and, Rob, Google it, just Google that word right there. Google the word and put it scrub, you'll see it. Uh, Banksy, mural, UK scrubbed. Scrub, yeah, there you go. If you go to it, images, that's what it looks like now. So interesting what it looks like now. You're right, it does, it does actually look better than it did before. Uh, Tommy, what's, what's your next event, Tommy, that you're gonna be doing? Have you already decided what the day is?

• 1:10:52Speaker 02

  Yeah, we're just talking on a date, but we want, unite the kingdom, unite the west. So because this is an issue, I think London, when you see the crowds this weekend, London has now been chosen as the battleground for these ideas. As in, free speech against mass open border immigration. We'd love to work with partners across the world. And this isn't just affecting us. I've always watched these movements and protests and just, and same with the populist parties in Europe. And for, why are they not all together? All of us are affected by this. Let's not look at what we disagree on, let's look what we agree on. All of us that were there, so we united the kingdom successfully. They come from Wales, they come from Scotland, they come from Northern Ireland, they even come from the Republic of Ireland. We're all there because we love our countries. Individually, we love our identity and we love our cultures, but we are stronger together.

• 1:11:37Speaker 02

  That would have put the fear of God into the establishment. Irish nationalists travelled with loyalists. These two groups with the war in Northern Ireland have been at war with each other throughout history. They've hated each other, Catholic and Protestants. They were travelling and come together to this event. So something big's happening. Now, I'd love to have a vision of us redoing another event like this, but we want world leaders there. We want the world's leaders to be addressing the populations who are the leaders on these issues. So we'd like Gert Wilders to be there, we'd like Maloney to be there, we'd like Viktor Orban to be there. We'd like Donald Trump to be there, yeah? But we, and obviously the venue we had here, they blocked us having two venues.

• 1:12:19Speaker 02

  So we couldn't, those millions that turned up, I think the only place the next one can be is in the Hyde Park of London. This could be our generation's Live Aid. Because we make it into a concert, we make it celebrationary, we make it about identity, but we also drill home our message of what we want and how fed up we are. And it gives, you see the millions that come in? I can guarantee you we're going to double that again next time.

• 1:12:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Well.

• 1:12:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Tommy, I will say, Tommy, I will say this to you. And I said this to you last time we spoke. I don't live in UK. I've been there, I've been to London. Beautiful place. Great people, great conversations. Rich history. And it's sad to see this taking place there. But in every generation, there comes somebody that's got courage to be able to go lead a movement like this. That's fearless. And it doesn't seem like anything is gonna back you down. Doesn't sound like you're gonna go away anytime soon until you get what you want. And, um, uh, uh, I, I, uh, I pray for you to stay as close to God as possible. I applaud you for your courage. And God willing, uh, good things will happen to your country that obviously you love and you're proud to represent.

• 1:13:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Uh, Tommy, any final thoughts before we wrap up?

• 1:13:33Speaker 02

  Just so Britain's awake, I hope the world sees, the world sees that now. So many people have spoke for so long. I heard people talk about when the British wake up. And I was always what, thinking, when is this country gonna wake up? I've been smiling for the last how many weeks? I knew this was coming. You listen to my interviews. I told everyone, million, it's gonna be a million people. It's gonna be the biggest protest this country's ever seen. It was downplayed, it was downplayed. I knew what was about to happen then, cuz I can feel it and see it everywhere I'm going. I know the public feeling is there. They now know that, yeah? They're gonna be worried. I, I think I do need prayers cuz they're gonna want rid of me a hundred percent. And they managed, successfully put me in prison many times. I'm in jail, I'm in court on October 13th. I could be back in jail for Christmas. But again, that's not gonna work. Surely they see it now.

• 1:14:18Speaker 02

  It doesn't work, you're not gonna shut us up, we're not gonna be silenced. We're not bowing to submission. We won't submit to Islam, we won't submit to any of it. So, yeah, Britain's awake, um, we need to make our plans. But we, we're grateful for every bit of support and everyone who's helped. As I said, you know, must put a thing out, we are the media now. When they said 110,000, their, their power's gone. I'm laughing at it. You know, Sky News were tweeting, Sky News were putting outside count, there are 12,000 people watching their, their news from our event with their propaganda. We had 2 million. So, you, you, you don't have the power anymore. You can't just attack us anymore cuz we can just pick this up and correct you. Which is what they don't want. They don't want that level playing field. So we need free speech and we also need citizen journalism.

• 1:15:01Patrick Bet-David?

  And by the way, guys, if you're watching this and you want to pick this up and support Tommy, go send him a minute. If you want to send him an encouraging message, ask him a question, do a call with him, pick this up. The Times doesn't want you to do it. The Times doesn't believe in free speech. They don't want you to talk to them at all. But if you support what he's talking about, a man this level of courage, to go out there and simply have free speech, show some support by sending him a message there. Tommy, once again, appreciate you for your time. I know you just got up to do this interview to a different town where you're at. We wish you all the best, Tommy.

• 1:15:31Speaker 02

  Thank you. Cheers.

• 1:15:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Take care. Bye bye.

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