Share the Shine with Kenan Thompson

Actor, comedian, and long-running SNL cast member Kenan Thompson sits down with Michelle and Craig to answer a listener’s question about parenting a daughter who wants to be famous. Kenan shares his own experience as a child actor, how he helps foster a sense of community on SNL, and how he shows up as a father to his two young daughters. Plus, Kenan’s kids make a special guest appearance! Have a question you want answered? Write to us at imopod.com http://imopod.com. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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• 0:00Speaker 00

  Remember when I auditioned for Mighty Ducks? Like, they asked if I could skate? And I was like, yeah, I can roller skate.

• 0:08Speaker 00

  Couldn't roller skate at all.

• 0:09Michelle Obama?

  What, what, what, what were you thinking?

• 0:10Speaker 00

  But it was just one of those, like, they say put special, special, special skills at the bottom of the resume to make it look nicer, make you look more interesting. So I'm like,

• 0:19Craig Robinson?

  Special skills.

• 0:20Speaker 00

  I've been roller skating, so I'll put that down there. I remember like, I used to fall two feet up to roller skating. You know what I mean? Like, real bad falls.

• 0:28Michelle Obama?

  You would have epic falls.

• 0:29Speaker 00

  Yeah, super duper.

• 0:30Michelle Obama?

  You weren't even close to being able to skate.

• 0:32Speaker 00

  But thank God they taught me.

• 0:39Michelle Obama?

  This episode is brought to you by Rivian and Colaguard.

• 0:45Craig Robinson?

  Hey, you.

• 0:46Michelle Obama?

  Well, Craig Robinson, here you are again. You showed back up.

• 0:51Craig Robinson?

  I'mma keep coming if you keep coming.

• 0:53Michelle Obama?

  Okay, that's a deal. That's a deal. We're having a lot of fun.

• 0:56Craig Robinson?

  This is so much fun.

• 0:57Michelle Obama?

  Yeah, loving your color selection. What would you call that?

• 1:03Craig Robinson?

  I would call this an olive green.

• 1:05Michelle Obama?

  Yeah, yeah. Kelly hooked you up again.

• 1:07Craig Robinson?

  She did, once again, once again.

• 1:09Michelle Obama?

  And you've made it here and put those clothes on just like she told you to. All by yourself.

• 1:16Craig Robinson?

  So, uh, did I hear a rumor that you have driven your Rivian?

• 1:20Michelle Obama?

  Driving my Rivian. It was cool. Yeah, yeah. I've gotten the, we're, um, uh, got this amazing forest green Rivian. It is beautiful. It just sits in the driveway, beautiful. I love the look of that car.

• 1:36Craig Robinson?

  It's a good looking car.

• 1:37Michelle Obama?

  It is an elegant car.

• 1:38Craig Robinson?

  And it's, it, it bigger than you think, once you get in it.

• 1:42Michelle Obama?

  It's huge, especially after driving a smaller car. But it was so smooth. And we were on some back roads and some little unpaved things. It didn't, you know, feel bumpy. It was the, although I was riding with Malia and she had just gotten into town.

• 2:00Craig Robinson?

  Okay.

• 2:00Michelle Obama?

  So I'm like, you know, I'm still new, new driving.

• 2:03Craig Robinson?

  New to an electric car, right?

• 2:04Michelle Obama?

  And new, because I don't drive all the time, right?

• 2:07Craig Robinson?

  That's right.

• 2:08Michelle Obama?

  So this is me and my daughter, we're in the car, you know? Just the two of us got the radio on and I'm trying to figure out everything and where do you press this? And she's telling me her life, because she had just gotten into town and. She's

• 2:20Craig Robinson?

  She's ready to talk.

• 2:21Michelle Obama?

  She's ready to talk. And she's talking and I'm trying to drive and work the pedal. And she's like, and then mom, you know, what happened? And I was like, turn the station down. And she just going at me, you know? It's like she's telling me everything. Important news too. So I'm trying to drive my Rivian, pay attention to the screen, not hit a deer, you know? But through it all, it was a really smooth ride.

• 2:45Craig Robinson?

  Yeah. Folks have heard us talk about the Rivian's that we have been gifted by the company to drive. And Kelly and I finally got to do a long ride where you have to charge it when you're away.

• 2:59Michelle Obama?

  Oh, yeah, yeah.

• 3:00Craig Robinson?

  And because

• 3:01Michelle Obama?

  She was nervous about that.

• 3:02Craig Robinson?

  She was a little nervous about it. And I was saying, they do such a good job in their app of showing you not only where the Rivian charging stations are, but where any charging station is. So you, you're never really out.

• 3:14Michelle Obama?

  Out there on your own.

• 3:15Craig Robinson?

  On your own. And so we, we, we drove, I don't know, 400 something miles away. Charged it away at a grocery store. And it was way to go. So went in and got something to eat.

• 3:29Michelle Obama?

  Yeah.

• 3:30Craig Robinson?

  Messed around with the, with the dashboard and still finding stuff out. So it was really good.

• 3:35Michelle Obama?

  Yeah.

• 3:36Craig Robinson?

  It was really good, so.

• 3:37Michelle Obama?

  And another friend of mine who has a Rivian says that there's a whole camper unit that you can get with it.

• 3:45Craig Robinson?

  You can.

• 3:45Michelle Obama?

  Yeah. Um, which I didn't, I know that Rivian, they are really pushing outdoor life. So the, um, the, the hood is not, because there's no engine, you can use it as a cooler. But I didn't realize that you could get other accessories, like a, you know, you could, there's a cooktop and other kind of, you've never told me about that.

• 4:07Craig Robinson?

  But that's because I haven't been camping.

• 4:08Michelle Obama?

  Yeah, but still, those are features that are really pretty interesting for the more outdoorsy people who are Rivian users.

• 4:16Craig Robinson?

  Yeah.

• 4:16Michelle Obama?

  But anyway, so I was thrilled. It's a beautiful car and when I get back home, I'm going to drive it some more.

• 4:23Craig Robinson?

  Yeah.

• 4:23Michelle Obama?

  So.

• 4:25Craig Robinson?

  We have a guests of all guests.

• 4:29Michelle Obama?

  Yeah, one of my favorite people. He doesn't know that.

• 4:33Craig Robinson?

  Well, how could he?

• 4:34Michelle Obama?

  I don't think he knows that. Yeah, I guess, yeah, we've never met him. But don't you feel like, you know, you should know that?

• 4:40Craig Robinson?

  And it feels like, not only should we know that we know him, but it feels like he should know us. He feels like, I was telling you, he feels like somebody who went to Mount Carmel High School, walking down the hallway, cracking jokes on dudes, and dudes going to their locker room shaking their head crying. You know? I mean, just, he's that for me. Like, if I look at him and he smirks a little, I will start cracking up. And we're talking about Kenan Thompson, you all.

• 5:07Michelle Obama?

  Yes, indeed, yeah.

• 5:09Craig Robinson?

  Before I get too far ahead of myself.

• 5:11Michelle Obama?

  Well, let's introduce him, so we can get him out here.

• 5:13Craig Robinson?

  I will. Kenan Thompson is an award-winning actor, comedian, producer, and author.

• 5:19Michelle Obama?

  All of that?

• 5:19Craig Robinson?

  Yep. Best known for his work on-

• 5:22Michelle Obama?

  When did he have time for all that?

• 5:23Craig Robinson?

  Saturday Night Live, or SNL, as people call it.

• 5:27Michelle Obama?

  Is that what they say?

• 5:29Craig Robinson?

  Yeah. And he's recently wrapped his 22nd season.

• 5:34Michelle Obama?

  Dag, he looks like he's 27.

• 5:36Craig Robinson?

  I know, and I was telling Julia, our producer, that I've been watching that show since it came on. I'm that old. And I remember when he came on, and I was like, man, they hiring these young brothers on the Saturday Night Live. Okay, okay. And he is the show's longest-running cast member. So, without any further ado, the man who's coming here dressed for the Vineyard, Kenan Thompson.

• 6:06Michelle Obama?

  Kenan. It's like Cousin Kenan.

• 6:10Craig Robinson?

  Cousin, that's right.

• 6:11Michelle Obama?

  What's up, she has been fine. You look so fresh.

• 6:17Speaker 00

  Brother man. I had to get fresh for y'all. Pleasure, pleasure, pleasure.

• 6:20Michelle Obama?

  You look so fresh, it's so cute.

• 6:21Speaker 00

  You know, I want to go to the Vineyard.

• 6:23Michelle Obama?

  Okay, all right, all right. Get your ferry ticket.

• 6:27Speaker 00

  You know, they have the little ones with the cars.

• 6:30Michelle Obama?

  They have, yeah. Have you ever been to the Vineyard?

• 6:34Speaker 00

  I went for Seth Meyers' wedding. That was like the one time I went. It was really nice.

• 6:38Michelle Obama?

  Yeah, it's lovely, it's lovely.

• 6:40Speaker 00

  I rented this, like, yellow, I think, Camaro.

• 6:45Michelle Obama?

  Oh, so you were top down?

• 6:48Speaker 00

  Yellow, you know, kind of oblivious to the fact that people will notice me. But yeah, I was sticking out a little bit on that one. It was fun though.

• 6:55Michelle Obama?

  It's like, is that Kenan and then you live?

• 6:58Speaker 00

  I mean, I wanna live life, you know?

• 6:59Michelle Obama?

  Yeah, you have to live life. Yeah, but that means you have to like find some time to have a vacation.

• 7:06Speaker 00

  Yeah, it doesn't happen often.

• 7:08Michelle Obama?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 7:09Speaker 00

  That was a good one.

• 7:10Michelle Obama?

  Yeah, yeah, well, welcome.

• 7:12Speaker 00

  Thank you very much. It's so nice to see the two of you in person.

• 7:15Michelle Obama?

  And it's good to see you in person, to meet you. I really do feel like I know you.

• 7:20Craig Robinson?

  I mean, I'm sure you get that a lot where people like, man, I feel like we know each other, but I.

• 7:25Speaker 00

  I've been in y'all's face for a long time.

• 7:27Michelle Obama?

  You have, you have, at all different levels too, you know? Because you got the kid audience.

• 7:33Craig Robinson?

  Yeah.

• 7:34Michelle Obama?

  That grew up with you, because our kids, Malia and Sasha, by the time they were watching you, I wasn't watching TV with them.

• 7:42Speaker 00

  Right.

• 7:43Michelle Obama?

  Right? You know, you get to that age where it's like, okay.

• 7:45Speaker 00

  That's yours, yeah.

• 7:46Michelle Obama?

  Right, that's what you do and, but.

• 7:49Speaker 00

  Yeah, enough of that Mickey Mouse in the background.

• 7:51Michelle Obama?

  Exactly.

• 7:53Craig Robinson?

  But my older kids grew up with you. They're just a little bit younger than you are, but my younger kids only know you from Saturday Night Live. They're 15 and 13.

• 8:02Speaker 00

  Interesting.

• 8:03Craig Robinson?

  Yeah, and they, we let them watch a little Saturday Night Live before.

• 8:07Speaker 00

  And what do they think?

• 8:08Michelle Obama?

  Yes, that's a good, I am a surprise.

• 8:11Craig Robinson?

  What do they think about the show or about you?

• 8:13Speaker 00

  Both.

• 8:13Michelle Obama?

  Yeah, do you, you let them watch Saturday Night Live?

• 8:16Craig Robinson?

  Well, it's just thanks to Malia, I got a, I started letting them watch R-rated stuff, so Malia.

• 8:21Michelle Obama?

  They were very strict parental parents in terms of viewing.

• 8:26Craig Robinson?

  No PG 13.

• 8:27Michelle Obama?

  And their older cousin thought that that was ridiculous and told them that they needed to be doing more sneaking by now.

• 8:35Speaker 00

  It's always them cousins.

• 8:36Michelle Obama?

  She was, she's the cousin, you know?

• 8:39Speaker 00

  Kids influence each other the most. Oh goodness.

• 8:43Craig Robinson?

  Cousins.

• 8:44Speaker 00

  But that's what cousins are for.

• 8:45Michelle Obama?

  That's what, that's what she felt. She felt like she needed to inform them that she, they shouldn't always be listening to their parents.

• 8:51Speaker 00

  And thank God it was family, as opposed to like. Some folk down the street.

• 8:56Craig Robinson?

  But Malia of all people, Malia.

• 8:59Speaker 00

  Yeah, but you know, it's a little.

• 9:00Craig Robinson?

  I can see if it was Sasha, but Malia.

• 9:03Speaker 00

  I mean, but they're fifteen and.

• 9:04Michelle Obama?

  Thirteen, fifteen and thirteen. That's what Malia's point was.

• 9:07Speaker 00

  It's about that time, you know? You want them to be street smart.

• 9:10Craig Robinson?

  Yeah, they do because they, you know, they grown up a little differently than we are.

• 9:15Speaker 00

  Exactly.

• 9:15Craig Robinson?

  And we did.

• 9:16Speaker 00

  You want to give them that as well kind of thing because you want to spoil them, you know? Because you work hard and it's like, I'm working hard to give these things to you. But then you see that they might not be appreciating in it as much. So you got to pull back some, you know what I mean? But you know, it's all leading up to those Rivian times, you know? Like you get back to a reunited person and y'all have a conversation and it's like, look at this. Fully formed, totally separate, you know, adult human being kind of thing. Or approaching adulthood kind of thing.

• 9:46Michelle Obama?

  How old are your daughters now?

• 9:48Speaker 00

  They are, the little one is turning seven in a couple of days and the big one's eleven. And they getting big on me. I don't have babies anymore.

• 9:57Michelle Obama?

  I know, but see, that's why you're in that deep parenting mode, you know? I mean, you see how quickly.

• 10:02Craig Robinson?

  You see it rolled off his tongue about the accountability.

• 10:05Michelle Obama?

  Thinking about, right?

• 10:06Speaker 00

  Twenty-four seven for the last eleven years.

• 10:09Michelle Obama?

  Kenan Thompson, Saturday Night Live, you're just like, oh, look at these two people growing up in front of my face.

• 10:14Speaker 00

  Absolutely. It's, it's the greatest thing in the world, you know? Literally witnessing miracles, you know? So it's been, it's the best thing I've ever done, in my opinion, you know? Other people look at my work on television, but for me, looking outwards always like, they're the greatest, you know? Yeah, sweethearts.

• 10:33Michelle Obama?

  What's been the hardest part of being a, because you have two girls?

• 10:37Speaker 00

  Yeah. I think waiting on the turn and you know, like right now, they're like very sweet and they're nice to their mom.

• 10:45Craig Robinson?

  You've heard about the turn, huh?

• 10:47Speaker 00

  And I've heard about that, that turn that could, sometimes it doesn't happen.

• 10:50Craig Robinson?

  Sometimes it doesn't.

• 10:51Speaker 00

  You know, or sometimes it's quick and they come back around, you know, pretty quickly, you know, kind of hoping for that.

• 10:56Michelle Obama?

  Here's the thing, like, you know, I always say to, the minute they show up. You're preparing them for the turn, right? And all the other stuff. Like, sometimes people as parents, they're like, "Well, I'll wait until you 20."

• 11:11Speaker 00

  Right.

• 11:11Michelle Obama?

  And I'll start talking to you about the things I'm worried about. Or I'll start worrying about your attitude. But it all, it's every day.

• 11:21Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 11:22Michelle Obama?

  What kinds of things are you working on as a father today that's going to prepare them?

• 11:30Speaker 00

  I mean, it just... Telling them and reminding them that they are family. You know what I mean? They're so competitive with each other, you know? And that's fine to be, have a competitive nature and this, that, and the other. But I want to remind them that this is what you have. This sibling bond that you have is very strong. It's probably the strongest on the planet, you know? But if you don't use it the correct way, if you waste it, or if you just, you know, waste the young years and, you know, you don't get to know each other until later. You know, I just don't want them wasting time arguing over who gets to sit where in the car, or who gets to press what elevator. But you know what I mean? I always want to remind them that y'all should love each other. You know, family's a beautiful thing. It's a beautiful thing to stay connected like that. Because me and my siblings are close, you know?

• 12:14Speaker 00

  And it's, I'm a witness to what it's like to be able to live long life with your siblings and have people that support you, you know, no matter what, kind of thing, you know? I'm witnessing you two. Like, it's a beautiful thing.

• 12:28Michelle Obama?

  How many brothers and sisters do you have?

• 12:30Speaker 00

  I have one of each.

• 12:32Michelle Obama?

  What was growing up, like, where?

• 12:34Speaker 00

  I'm from Atlanta.

• 12:34Michelle Obama?

  Yeah, yeah. Southern boy.

• 12:36Speaker 00

  South side, yes, indeed, right by the airport. Grew up with my manners, you know? Large, extended family, lots of cousins.

• 12:44Michelle Obama?

  You grew up with your manners?

• 12:45Speaker 00

  I grew up with my manners.

• 12:46Michelle Obama?

  You look like you grew up with your manners. Call me Michelle.

• 12:53Craig Robinson?

  Wait, wait. Let's see. Call him Michelle.

• 12:56Speaker 00

  Michelle. It's tough.

• 12:58Craig Robinson?

  It's hard.

• 12:58Speaker 00

  It's tough.

• 12:59Michelle Obama?

  You should, no. I absolutely do. That doesn't even sound right.

• 13:05Speaker 00

  We wanna call you all kinds of things.

• 13:07Michelle Obama?

  You can call me anything after you kneel.

• 13:10Speaker 00

  To call you that.

• 13:10Michelle Obama?

  Then I.

• 13:11Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, did I miss the kneel? I didn't do the kneel.

• 13:19Speaker 00

  But yeah, no.

• 13:20Michelle Obama?

  No.

• 13:21Speaker 00

  It's, it's a beautiful thing. My parents are from small town Virginia, Lynchburg, if you ever heard of it.

• 13:26Michelle Obama?

  Yeah.

• 13:28Speaker 00

  And yeah, all my cousins are staying in family from around that area. And spent a lot of summers growing up there, so I have a perspective of, you know, what it's like to maybe not have grown up with a lot of opportunity, kinda thing.

• 13:42Craig Robinson?

  And at what age, I mean, you guys started so young. When did you feel like, oh, I think I wanna do this?

• 13:50Speaker 00

  Pretty early. Probably my first paycheck, like, I started acting when I was five, doing theater and stuff like that.

• 13:58Craig Robinson?

  And you knew you wanted to do that?

• 14:00Speaker 00

  I enjoyed it, but when I was like 11, I did a commercial that was like a real job. And then they paid me like $800. And I was like, at 11 years old, that might as well have been a million.

• 14:10Craig Robinson?

  Sure.

• 14:11Speaker 00

  So I was like, yeah, I like this. I had cut grass and stuff before and it's 20 bucks a yard, you know, and that's a lot of work for $20 if you can actually sign that house up, you know, you gotta walk the neighborhood with your mom. And hot in Atlanta, so like I knew work.

• 14:27Craig Robinson?

  Yeah.

• 14:27Michelle Obama?

  There's air conditioning on set.

• 14:29Speaker 00

  Yeah, and treats and snacks.

• 14:32Michelle Obama?

  And treats.

• 14:35Michelle Obama?

  What was the commercial? The first one?

• 14:38Speaker 00

  It was for this fried chicken restaurant called Lee's Famous Country Recipe Chicken.

• 14:44Craig Robinson?

  Ooh, a mouthful.

• 14:46Michelle Obama?

  Really? Were you, were you an outlier? I mean, were the kids in your group all, you know, rehearsing in plays? You know, or were you one of one in your?

• 14:57Speaker 00

  Yeah, me and my brother and I kinda started together, you know? We both went to like Sears to get our headshots done, I remember that.

• 15:04Michelle Obama?

  It's Sears.

• 15:05Craig Robinson?

  Folks don't know about Sears. Sears robot.

• 15:08Michelle Obama?

  Man, sit, get your tire shamed, get your headshots.

• 15:11Speaker 00

  Which was even further.

• 15:13Craig Robinson?

  Ooh, yeah, cuz.

• 15:16Michelle Obama?

  That's right, that's right.

• 15:17Craig Robinson?

  But you remember the Sears catalog? Christmas catalog, man.

• 15:21Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 15:21Craig Robinson?

  Yes.

• 15:22Michelle Obama?

  Yeah, went from this to this.

• 15:24Speaker 00

  Yeah, to back to.

• 15:25Craig Robinson?

  That was bathroom reading.

• 15:26Speaker 00

  Pages of.

• 15:27Michelle Obama?

  Bathroom reading.

• 15:27Speaker 00

  Coupons ish, coupons ish, they kind of just showing you what they got.

• 15:32Michelle Obama?

  That's right. So headshots.

• 15:33Speaker 00

  This is before the internet, yeah.

• 15:34Michelle Obama?

  Headshots at Sears.

• 15:35Speaker 00

  And I think borrowed sweaters. I think we put the sweaters back after the photo shoot.

• 15:40Craig Robinson?

  From the rack.

• 15:42Michelle Obama?

  Uh huh.

• 15:43Speaker 00

  I feel like I have that memory.

• 15:43Michelle Obama?

  We're just trying these on, baby, it's gangster.

• 15:46Speaker 00

  No haircuts.

• 15:46Craig Robinson?

  That's gangster.

• 15:47Speaker 00

  So the first headshots was very spiky little afros.

• 15:51Michelle Obama?

  Yeah.

• 15:51Speaker 00

  Adorable though, you know, I thought we were, we were two cute little kids.

• 15:55Michelle Obama?

  Mm hmm.

• 15:56Speaker 00

  And then my brother grew up and went to like college and became cool, you know? And then I stayed kind of in it. And yeah, that's how, that's how it kind of started, but whole lot of auditioning.

• 16:07Michelle Obama?

  Were you able to have like a normal childhood? Were you still playing outside or did, when did it get, when did it change?

• 16:14Speaker 00

  That's what I'm saying, I was, I think kind of a, a great version of a child actor story because I didn't really start working, working until I was like 15, you know? So I was kind of already up there as far as knowing who I am as a person and.

• 16:29Michelle Obama?

  At 15, mm, listen to you.

• 16:31Speaker 00

  You know, ish, you know what I mean? Like I know my, my values, my manners, this, that and the other. And I'm ready to like go out in the world and like figure out if I can start, you know, working or start towards a career, whatever that might mean, so.

• 16:50Craig Robinson?

  This segment is presented by Progressive Insurance because true progress starts when people are empowered with the knowledge and support to take bold steps forward. And you know, being prepared always made me feel really good. And I, I think back to the times when I was coaching.

• 17:08Michelle Obama?

  Mm hmm.

• 17:09Craig Robinson?

  Uh, whether it was as an assistant coach at Northwestern or a head coach at Brown or Oregon State. Whenever my teams were prepared, I always went into the game feeling like we had a more than 80% chance to win the game. And it is amazing how when you hit all the notes in practice, the games are easy.

• 17:33Michelle Obama?

  Yeah, that makes it fun. I mean, when I realized the importance of preparation in making something hard fun was actually in law school when I had my first moot court competition.

• 17:46Craig Robinson?

  Ooh.

• 17:47Michelle Obama?

  And yeah, it was daunting, but I didn't really know what it was. It was first year. Everybody had to compete in moot court and I was, I, for the practice, because you've got an opportunity to practice and you were actually making a case, a closing argument. It was a criminal case and I think I was representing the defense. My partner was representing the prosecution, if I have it right, and we had to present our closing arguments to the jury. So instead of preparing, I didn't have time. So I thought, well, I'll go in and I'll wing it. All right. And you were taped and I got to watch how bad I was taped when I wasn't prepared. And it was probably the most painful experience for me to watch

• 18:30Michelle Obama?

  myself on tape, not be prepared. And I think that was probably the first and last time that I decided to wing it. And I understood that, you know, and I also found out that when I did prepare for the actual moot court trial, it was more fun, just like you said, because then you can flow. Same thing with the big speech, you know, if, when I'm prepared for a big speech, if I know what I'm saying, if I've gone over the, the process, if I know what it feels like to stand in front, from, front of the podium, to get a feel for how the mic sounds, to get used to the lights and the sounds, then the speech can just flow. So preparation for me has always been a part of not just showing up right,

• 19:15Michelle Obama?

  but enjoying the process along the way.

• 19:17Craig Robinson?

  Until your brother walks up next to you and says, the left prompter is out.

• 19:21Michelle Obama?

  Well, yeah, that was our famous story in the first big speech, I, national speech I had at the first Democratic National Convention where you introduced me and we had teleprompters and

• 19:32Craig Robinson?

  We had practiced.

• 19:33Michelle Obama?

  We had practiced.

• 19:34Craig Robinson?

  We were prepared. It was great.

• 19:36Michelle Obama?

  But one of the prompters went out in the middle of your introduction. So when it was time for me to come onstage with the crowds going wild, I come up to give you a hug and I think you're gonna whisper something inspirational in my ear, like, "I love you, I'm so proud of you." Instead, you said, "Left prompter out," and then you were gone. And I was like, "Oh, what? That was strange." But I couldn't react because I was on national TV until I got to the podium and realized, "Oh, my God, the prompter to the left was out." But because I was prepared.

• 20:08Craig Robinson?

  You were prepared. It didn't mean anything.

• 20:10Michelle Obama?

  Didn't matter at all.

• 20:11Craig Robinson?

  Didn't matter, yeah. And even though it doesn't look like it when we're doing this podcast, because we're just flowing back and forth, it takes a lot of preparation for us.

• 20:20Michelle Obama?

  Takes a little work to show up on camera.

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• 21:24Michelle Obama?

  When you first were famous, was that the, you know, the Nickelodeon years?

• 21:31Speaker 00

  Yeah. I think Good Burger kicked it in the high gear. I mean, Mighty Ducks was cool, but that was more so about like the Mighty Ducks. And then like Heavy Weights was, you know, kind of a... Like a cultural kind of thing, like, you know, a little cult following kind of movie?

• 21:45Michelle Obama?

  Yeah.

• 21:46Speaker 00

  But Good Burger was ours, you know? It started on our show, you know? And it was the first movie that came from our show, you know? And we were both in it, me and Kel, and like, that was my brother and is my brother.

• 21:58Michelle Obama?

  Yeah.

• 21:59Speaker 00

  And, you know, we just had such a good time. We're eighteen at that time, so we were like, yes, bring this all on now, please.

• 22:06Michelle Obama?

  Now, where were your parents on all of this? How did they feel? Did you feel like they were watching? Were they engaged as you were going through this process?

• 22:15Speaker 00

  Very supportive.

• 22:16Michelle Obama?

  Yeah.

• 22:16Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 22:18Speaker 00

  My mom was my main, like, pusher, my main, like, you know, foundational, because she's the type of person that got a job at my theater school so I could take classes there, you know? So, like, she's that person. And I remember we drove to Charlotte for an audition that I didn't get, you know? We came back the same day and she was like, don't worry about it, you know? We'll be there on the next one. So, shout out to all the parents that are like, you know, really supporting their kids' dreams and endeavors, even if you don't know where it's headed, because we didn't know where it was headed. You know, it was just something that I wanted to do on top of everything else. Like, I was still playing sports and like, playing music and all kind of stuff, but I didn't have rock star dreams necessarily, you know?

• 23:03Speaker 00

  I maybe had maybe football dreams, but I was little, you know, still. And everybody else was turning into monsters by like ninth, tenth grade. Like, it was starting to get real.

• 23:11Michelle Obama?

  Yeah.

• 23:12Speaker 00

  You know, especially in the good old Fed South.

• 23:14Craig Robinson?

  Down, down, south, southeast.

• 23:16Michelle Obama?

  It's like, I'm not going in there with them.

• 23:19Speaker 00

  Yeah, they're the real beasts.

• 23:20Craig Robinson?

  There's some real dudes down there.

• 23:22Speaker 00

  Yeah, man, just kid beasts.

• 23:26Speaker 00

  But I always enjoyed performing and I just, I couldn't stop it.

• 23:30Michelle Obama?

  Did you ever have a point in time before, you know, when you were young in your career, where you did get a little bit of a big head?

• 23:38Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah.

• 23:38Michelle Obama?

  What was that like?

• 23:41Speaker 00

  Yeah, I was very kind of naively cocky, you know, going into like certain auditions. Like, I remember when I auditioned for The Mighty Ducks, like, they asked if I could skate, and I was like, yeah, I can roller skate. Couldn't roller skate at all.

• 23:56Michelle Obama?

  Well, what were you thinking?

• 23:57Speaker 00

  But it was just one of those like, they say put special, best special skills at the bottom of the resume to make it look nicer, make you look more interesting. So I'm like, I've been roller skating, so I'll put that down there. I remember like, I used to fall two feet up when roller skating, you know what I mean?

• 24:14Michelle Obama?

  He would have epic falls.

• 24:15Speaker 00

  Yeah, super duper.

• 24:16Michelle Obama?

  You weren't even close to being able to skate.

• 24:19Speaker 00

  But thank God they taught me, you know, how to play. And I can, you know, skate to this day, but just one of those things that you just gotta, you know, kind of try to make yourself a little more appealing, you know, if that's not necessarily the case kind of thing, you know?

• 24:34Michelle Obama?

  Yeah, but that's not a bad story.

• 24:36Speaker 00

  Stretching.

• 24:39Michelle Obama?

  It's kind of stretching, but that's not, I mean, that's just that.

• 24:42Speaker 00

  That's harmless.

• 24:43Michelle Obama?

  That's a tactic.

• 24:44Craig Robinson?

  But that's easily figured out, though.

• 24:46Michelle Obama?

  Yeah, no, no, I know, but that does, to me, that doesn't qualify as you.

• 24:50Speaker 00

  But I was willing to take that risk.

• 24:51Michelle Obama?

  But if you having a big head, you know, or going, I mean, you're, that means you were hustling.

• 24:56Speaker 00

  Sorry, back to the, to that part, yes. When, after Mighty Ducks, I thought I was a movie star, you know? So I was like, after One Kid movie where I like, my character kind of helped save the day, not necessarily the only, but I'm, I'm the hero, you know? I'm the hero of the sequel of The Mighty Ducks. So that means I'm in the game, you know? So when I auditioned for all that, it was a different approach to it because I was introduced to the producers as opposed to like being herded in. So it was like a meeting, you know what I mean? I'm like, this is over with, you know what I'm saying?

• 25:30Michelle Obama?

  Yeah, I got it in.

• 25:31Speaker 00

  They made me, bro, like, what we talking, we might as well just like go and grab lunch or something like, it's over, I got this. And I just was like, what y'all need? Y'all need a Jamaican? Y'all need, y'all need an old man? I got, I just threw them out there like it was nothing. But I think that confidence was like, you know, something that was appealing to them, you know? Like, oh, he's kind of ready to perform. We don't have to worry about stage fright, I guess, or something like that. So, yeah, I was a little naive on that one, but it helped because I do get very nervous. I still get nervous for every show.

• 26:01Craig Robinson?

  Really?

• 26:02Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah.

• 26:03Craig Robinson?

  Oh, man.

• 26:05Speaker 00

  Trying to talk to different people about it, especially for stand up. That's why I don't do stand up because it stresses me out. Like if I have a gig. That's all I'm thinking of the whole day.

• 26:14Michelle Obama?

  You can't sleep.

• 26:15Speaker 00

  With days out, you know, like I'm just, I can't not focus on that. And then like if I travel to a town, I ain't going out in the town, you know, I'm in the hotel passing around, watching TV. Right and they just wait, taking the time away and it just feels so wasteful. So it's not my, that's obviously not my thing, you know what I'm saying?

• 26:34Michelle Obama?

  Yeah, but you have been the longest running cast member of SNL. That's the most terrifying thing. People have asked me to do a lot of things. You see, I've been on talk shows, I've done skits with people I've done. But SNL, I would never do that.

• 26:49Speaker 00

  That's wild because to me it is.

• 26:52Michelle Obama?

  Terrifying, just what you described to me.

• 26:55Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 26:56Michelle Obama?

  I wouldn't sleep that week. I'd be worrying, I'd be worrying about looking at the camera. I don't know how you all do that.

• 27:04Speaker 00

  Yeah, my heart goes after that because I know that feeling, you know? But I just don't have it there because I'm very comfortable there. I mean, we did a lot of sketches growing up and then the live actor doesn't bother me much because it's a large group of people doing it together, you know what I mean? And there's a lot of people like getting you to where you need to be and like all I gotta do is read the words. I can do that, you know? Like I can like stay focused enough and like deliver my part of it. And then there's so many people helping you get to that point. And you have to write yourself to that point. Yes, that's another tough part of it. But like the actual show, once it's at that point, it doesn't stress me like going to yuck yucks and having to do seventeen minutes.

• 27:48Michelle Obama?

  Say it's all on you.

• 27:49Speaker 00

  I hate waiting in lines or you know, what is with these, the TSA, you know? I just don't make fun of stuff.

• 27:56Craig Robinson?

  Go back to you have to write yourself. What does that mean?

• 28:01Speaker 00

  We write on SNL, so like the best way to like make yourself known there is to write for yourself in the beginning. You know, so you have to like.

• 28:10Michelle Obama?

  Write your own skits.

• 28:11Speaker 00

  For better or for worse, like put yourself out there so people can kind of see what your sense of humor is or what you'd like to focus on. I was lucky that I was able to balance it more with performance than writing. And I would collab write with a lot of people, but anytime I wrote on my own, it went all over the place. And I have a hard time like staying linear or whatever. I'll just be writing based on like what's on my mind at the time. And then when I look back at it, I'm like, come on. This makes no sense. Marlon the King talking to Jay-Z, that doesn't happen. When does that happen?

• 28:45Michelle Obama?

  And where is it going? Where is the point? Where it's gonna end?

• 28:48Craig Robinson?

  So when you first got on Saturday Night Live, do you have to go on as a writer? Or how did the work tell? Tell us about the process.

• 28:55Speaker 00

  There's some people that get hired as either a writer or a cast member.

• 28:59Craig Robinson?

  Okay.

• 28:59Speaker 00

  And when you get hired in the beginning, you are a repertory player, I think. So that's a two year kind of staging process and then you become a full player.

• 29:09Craig Robinson?

  Okay.

• 29:09Speaker 00

  If I'm, if I'm getting the terms right.

• 29:11Michelle Obama?

  Have your face on the opening credits and come popping out of New York, smoking a cigarette.

• 29:17Speaker 00

  Hey, New York.

• 29:21Michelle Obama?

  When do you get to be, what?

• 29:22Speaker 00

  As soon as you get hired as a cast member, yeah. So if you get in the cast.

• 29:27Craig Robinson?

  Okay.

• 29:28Speaker 00

  A title in the beginning and you get to do your.

• 29:32Michelle Obama?

  Was that a big deal?

• 29:33Speaker 00

  Spin around.

• 29:33Michelle Obama?

  Was that like for you when you were?

• 29:35Speaker 00

  Huge deal and like it was, it was hard to comprehend it still being the same show that I grew up watching because now I'm on it. And I'm like.

• 29:43Michelle Obama?

  I thought this was serious comedy, but they hired me.

• 29:46Speaker 00

  Yeah, and I was 25, so I was, I was young. And like I was, I was ready to do kind of whatever, but it was just very surreal. You know, it was, it was hard to see it as the same kind of place. And then I was like worried, I'm like. Have I changed it forever? Like, am I really worthy of this? You know what I mean? Because I don't write. You know what I mean? And I don't know what my sense of humor is. Like, I don't know what my point of view is. As opposed, you know, when you approach comedy or whatever. Like, what am I trying to say with my jokes? I don't know. Like, I'm used to, like, playing around in chocolate. You know what I'm saying? Just doing whatever. Now I have to be serious and, like, you know, do college kind of educated material. And I didn't finish college. But, you know.

• 30:31Michelle Obama?

  You were busy.

• 30:31Speaker 00

  Whatever. I was a little bit busy.

• 30:33Craig Robinson?

  You were working already.

• 30:34Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 30:34Craig Robinson?

  You had a job.

• 30:35Michelle Obama?

  Yeah, that's why people go to college.

• 30:37Speaker 00

  Yeah, exactly, to try to figure it out.

• 30:38Michelle Obama?

  Right, right.

• 30:39Speaker 00

  I had it figured out, and it was in my way.

• 30:42Speaker 00

  Yeah, but, yeah, it was, I was, it took me a while to figure out how to write sketches.

• 30:47Craig Robinson?

  Did you have a mentor on the show that's sort of like, hey, Keenan, this is how you go about getting to the next level? Is that, is that?

• 30:56Speaker 00

  Yeah, I mean.

• 30:57Craig Robinson?

  Because I hear you do that for people.

• 31:00Speaker 00

  If they ask, I try to be there for people because I remember being very lost in the beginning, yes. Because, you know, a lot of people, you know, come from improv houses or they come from stand-up. You know, two big communal worlds, basically, where they're not by themselves. Not a lot of people come from already being an actor or already being a kid's performer or anything and just, you know, just being an actor. You know, and most people are like real comics that like wind up getting hired there and like are always like hyper-focused on it. So they know it very well. They've shared stories or they read the books. You know, like, I went into it just blind, you know, based on what I had been watching on TV or whatever, not knowing how small the studio was, not knowing much about Manhattan, you know, and all that kind of stuff.

• 31:45Speaker 00

  And it was just like a tornado of learning everything on the fly. And it's like college. Not everybody's just gonna pull you aside and teach you how to do it. But Tracy Morgan was a real one from day one. I love him. He's my brother. He was just like in his own kind of way telling us little tidbits, like, don't peek at dress.

• 32:04Michelle Obama?

  What? Oh, don't peek at dress. Oh, okay.

• 32:06Speaker 00

  That is a golden nugget.

• 32:08Michelle Obama?

  Yeah.

• 32:09Speaker 00

  Because. Yeah, the the live show is what matters. You know what I'm saying? So if you peek a dress, it's like, yeah, you kind of just wasted it a little bit. You know, and like, you don't really have that luxury to do that in your first few years. You know, because everybody is trying to do their very best. You know, because this is the life changing job. You know what I'm saying? Like, if you do it well, it can change your life. If you do it bad, it can change your life.

• 32:35Michelle Obama?

  Yeah.

• 32:35Speaker 00

  You know what I mean? So it's a lot of stress. And I I see the stress on newcomers. You know what I'm saying? So I always try to be like a friendly ear. Or if I see things, you know, when we're rehearsing stuff, I try to suggest, you know, maybe like this shot should be this. Or maybe like, what about this idea? Like, I'm always trying to like participate in, you know, helping others sketches, you know, get as good as they can be, you know, just try to be helpful basically. Because when you're stressing like that, you're just you're not thinking clearly. You know what I mean? You're not relaxed enough to be funny almost.

• 33:10Michelle Obama?

  Exactly. You know, so how do you? How do you relax to be funny? You know, what what's your what's your tip? I will never do SNL. Like, if I were gonna do SNL.

• 33:23Speaker 00

  I think you could do it because I think you would recognize the the communal push uphill, which is the show. We're all trying to push the show to the top of the hill. Every single week, you know, and everybody is hyper focused and committed to the same goal. You know, no matter what their politics might be or whatever. Everybody is respectful of the place. It's it's almost like a temple. You know what I mean? And like, there's nobody trying to make it go left at all.

• 33:51Michelle Obama?

  Nobody wants anyone to fail.

• 33:54Speaker 00

  At all. You know, and I think once you settle into that warmth, I think you start to embrace. The only thing that matters is kind of what makes you laugh. You know what I mean? And it's not really about anything else because it's your night.

• 34:07Michelle Obama?

  Yeah.

• 34:07Speaker 00

  And it's up to us to make your night as special as possible, which is like, I love that. I grew up very ensemble minded. So like, I'm all about let somebody else have the shine.

• 34:17Michelle Obama?

  Mm hmm.

• 34:18Speaker 00

  And I will help that shine be as bright as possible. Like, I love that.

• 34:21Michelle Obama?

  You, you, like, just sitting here for the listeners, the watchers.

• 34:25Speaker 00

  Mm hmm.

• 34:26Michelle Obama?

  You're just such a regular dude.

• 34:29Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 34:29Michelle Obama?

  You know? Um.

• 34:31Speaker 00

  Torres in the house.

• 34:32Michelle Obama?

  Yeah, Torres.

• 34:32Speaker 00

  Shout out.

• 34:33Michelle Obama?

  Shout out to the Torres.

• 34:34Speaker 00

  The real ones.

• 34:35Michelle Obama?

  Okay, enough.

• 34:36Speaker 00

  The real ones.

• 34:37Michelle Obama?

  Enough, whatever.

• 34:38Craig Robinson?

  Man, you're welcome.

• 34:40Speaker 00

  You're welcome.

• 34:41Craig Robinson?

  Watch yourself over there, Capricorn.

• 34:42Michelle Obama?

  It's okay, it's okay. You know, I'm gonna take back my compliments.

• 34:49Craig Robinson?

  This is, this is what I have to do.

• 34:50Speaker 00

  I love it.

• 34:51Craig Robinson?

  Since she was four.

• 34:52Speaker 00

  Remember that y'all love each other.

• 34:53Michelle Obama?

  I love it.

• 34:54Speaker 00

  Y'all remember, y'all siblings.

• 34:56Craig Robinson?

  Take it back or compliment.

• 35:06Craig Robinson?

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• 35:50Craig Robinson?

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• 40:25Craig Robinson?

  Any memorable favorite sketches that like when when people ask you what's what are some of your favorite sketches?

• 40:34Speaker 00

  Mine?

• 40:35Craig Robinson?

  Yes.

• 40:35Speaker 00

  Absolutely. I mean, Scared Straight was my first love because it was the first like idea that I had.

• 40:45Speaker 00

  And it still goes. I can't believe they picked it for the 50th. Like it was just a special Eddie and Will felt like crazy. So that was a very, very special moment because that was like the first like thing that I loved and I had an idea about that actually was transferable to the show kind of thing. I had a lot of things before that that just made no sense or they were just a little too obvious or been done before, you know, you know, there's a lot of like lineage there, especially as far as like black culture is concerned. Like, how many times can you do a person in an Afro? How many times can you do this? Um, so figuring it out was, you know, it took me five years. Like Scared Straight didn't come to my fifth season.

• 41:27Michelle Obama?

  Wow.

• 41:28Speaker 00

  It took me a while. And then What's Up With That, of course, like What's Up With That, Family Feud, Black Jeopardy, you know, all the good black stuff, you know?

• 41:37Craig Robinson?

  Yeah.

• 41:38Michelle Obama?

  But what's it like having your face in the world? I mean, how do you get about? How do you? How has it? Um, look, I I live in a, we live in a bubble.

• 41:49Michelle Obama?

  Yeah, we were raised just like you, me more so. I'm in a bubble, me and my husband. Um, that's not how we were raised. We believe in the same thing that, you know, it's a lot. Every time we moved up somewhere, we brought our community with us.

• 42:04Speaker 00

  Right.

• 42:04Michelle Obama?

  A lot of it selfishly because it's no fun being in the White House with no friends.

• 42:09Speaker 00

  Right.

• 42:09Michelle Obama?

  Or to be there with people you didn't really know. They didn't come there with you. They didn't help you get there.

• 42:14Speaker 00

  Um, yeah, everything about changing the name.

• 42:17Michelle Obama?

  Obama. What would you pick, Keenan? What do you think?

• 42:20Speaker 00

  Call it the Black House, man. Just this for a little while. Just for a little while.

• 42:26Michelle Obama?

  Just for a little while. It hadn't crossed our mind.

• 42:29Speaker 00

  Really?

• 42:30Michelle Obama?

  It hadn't.

• 42:31Speaker 00

  Yeah. That's because y'all good.

• 42:33Michelle Obama?

  You were good.

• 42:34Speaker 00

  Y'all nice people.

• 42:35Michelle Obama?

  Good people hadn't thought about it.

• 42:36Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 42:37Michelle Obama?

  But it's, you know, it changes the way you have to live.

• 42:41Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 42:42Michelle Obama?

  Whether you like it or not. And I'm just wondering, what have those changes, what have been the hardest changes for you? Especially given your poor.

• 42:52Speaker 00

  I mean, it's invasive, you know? It's invasive and it's tougher for me when it's tough on other people that are around me that get affected, kind of thing, you know? Like, I can, you know, I'm a man out here. I can handle, you know, whatever's coming my way because I feel like I'm putting myself in those positions. But when people get it by default necessarily, just for, you know, being associated, you know, it's, you know, that's when it starts to bother me more so than anything. Because like, I don't want to impede on other people, you know? I don't want to be a burden or, you know, cause strife where strife wasn't necessarily there at first, kind of thing. And it's terrible to be the cause of stress, you know? So that bothers me, especially like in public when people come up, you know, and like they want to take pictures, blah, blah, blah.

• 43:33Speaker 00

  Like, I'm usually cordial unless I'm with my little ones and then I feel like that's their time. And that's the only time where I'm a little standoffish or whatever. But even when I see like it's, you know, bothering the intent of the day, like we're trying to go to a museum or whatever, then I'll just like ask for people not to do that because it's bothering someone else, kind of thing. But for me, New York is good for that, you know? I can put my hat on and I can just walk and be amongst the millions. You know what I mean? Some people recognize and, you know, they say what's up, you know? The real ones. Shout out to all the FedEx delivery dudes.

• 44:06Speaker 00

  You know, but, you know, people like that, that are, you know, just feet on the ground. They'll see you and they'll say what's up. But I've never been one of those people that people need to flock towards and start like pulling at necessarily. Like, a lot of people just say, hey, and keep it moving or they said, thank you or like, we love you. My family loves you, you know? They'll keep it moving. But there are other places where, you know, it gets excessive like, you know, certain settings like Disney World is a setting where families are in the mode to like do for their children. So they want to get picked or they want to do, you know, they want to introduce, you know, they they're just, they don't care about boundaries at that point. You're like, you hear.

• 44:40Michelle Obama?

  We meet Mickey Mouse.

• 44:41Speaker 00

  You know, right.

• 44:42Michelle Obama?

  And my baby's getting a picture with Mickey Mouse.

• 44:44Speaker 00

  It's just better to just embrace it in those moments, you know, as opposed to trying to be like, let us have our space. Cause then I start feeling bad. Like I usually walk away from awkward encounters. And I think I live with it more than they do almost, you know what I mean? Cause I think people just, you know, go about their daily lives, but I'm always just like, man, are they gonna hate me for?

• 45:03Michelle Obama?

  Right. Did I ruin somebody's vacation?

• 45:05Speaker 00

  Like, and some days you're just not in the mood, you know? You're just not in the mood to to be famous, kind of thing. Like, I just have too much going on to like, smile through it, kind of stuff. And I just need to process sometimes. And if you've run into me on those days, I'm sorry. You know what I'm saying? It happened.

• 45:23Michelle Obama?

  Yeah.

• 45:24Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 45:24Michelle Obama?

  Yeah.

• 45:25Speaker 00

  And if you allow yourself those days, it's not that hard to like, pull the rubber band back the other direction and just like, take a deep breath.

• 45:33Michelle Obama?

  You can do this.

• 45:34Speaker 00

  And just, let's attack the day.

• 45:36Michelle Obama?

  Yeah.

• 45:36Speaker 00

  And then, you know, when you are ready and people don't notice, that's when it's like, oh, see? You know what I'm saying? Like when you like, you want somebody to say like, nice outfit. Ain't nobody paying attention to you. You know, so be grateful.

• 45:48Craig Robinson?

  We, we were talking about, and with some of the, the crew, we were talking about how this business just chews up and spits out people in general, but particularly young people who start young. And you've been able to sort of dodge those mind fields. But now we're sitting here talking to you, it makes perfect sense. Like you have a way about you that.

• 46:14Craig Robinson?

  You, you, you were raised right and continued to live right. So you just stay out of trouble.

• 46:20Speaker 00

  Yeah, I mean, you know, trouble gonna find you.

• 46:23Michelle Obama?

  Yeah.

• 46:24Speaker 00

  If you stay out, if you stay looking for it, trouble gonna come your way.

• 46:28Michelle Obama?

  Yeah.

• 46:28Speaker 00

  No, I mean, I, I just, I'm relaxed, you know, I'm forty seven at this point. So I ain't really like out there just running around wild, looking for chaos like I was when I was in my proving years of being nineteen and twenty and feeling invincible kind of thing. I would much rather Netflix and chill than, you know, turn all the way up. But turn it up is fun as, as well, you know, but I have a good balance now. You know what I'm saying? Like, I understand, you know, what I gotta do the next day. You know, I gotta check my calendars before I go out now. You know, I usually just go running out the door whenever it was time kind of thing. But now it's like, oh, man, I got that Zoom. And that Zoom at ten thirty is gonna be tough.

• 47:06Michelle Obama?

  It's always a Zoom. It's like, you better have some sleep, some water, hydrate.

• 47:10Speaker 00

  At least I can just be in my shirt for the Zoom. But I gotta be in my shirt. I gotta, I gotta actually show up.

• 47:16Michelle Obama?

  What is turn up, Keenan, like?

• 47:19Speaker 00

  Like anybody that grew up in Atlanta.

• 47:21Michelle Obama?

  I don't know.

• 47:22Speaker 00

  We standing on top of tables.

• 47:23Michelle Obama?

  I'm trying to figure it out.

• 47:24Speaker 00

  Yeah, y'all from Chicago, you know, y'all, come on.

• 47:26Michelle Obama?

  I'm just trying to figure it out.

• 47:26Speaker 00

  We turn, we, you know, there's sparkles everywhere. There's, we popping bottles.

• 47:31Michelle Obama?

  It's shiny, splashing.

• 47:32Speaker 00

  You know, we standing on top of, and there's thousands of us, you know what I mean? Like, that's just how it is. Like, I grew up in the hip hop, so.

• 47:38Michelle Obama?

  Yeah.

• 47:38Speaker 00

  It's hip hop culture, basically, and just, in Atlanta, there was a whole lot of standing around, I guess, because it was probably dangerous to, to just be one of those people that gets like noticed necessarily. You become a target or whatever. So mostly holding the wall, which means just standing on the wall and kind of like, you know, people watching, basically kind of stuff. I'm not a big dancer necessarily, but.

• 47:57Michelle Obama?

  You're not?

• 47:58Speaker 00

  I dance in place.

• 47:59Michelle Obama?

  You got, you got like one move?

• 48:01Speaker 00

  I got a few.

• 48:02Michelle Obama?

  Okay.

• 48:03Speaker 00

  But it's in place. It's not like I need to clear the dance floor and show anybody.

• 48:06Michelle Obama?

  It's all upper body, it's just, you know, got more in the shoulders.

• 48:08Speaker 00

  And like, there's one, one hip dip.

• 48:11Michelle Obama?

  Okay. You got one hip dip in there, that's good.

• 48:14Speaker 00

  There's a hip dip in there.

• 48:15Michelle Obama?

  Well, when you come to the venue, we gonna have to see your hip dip.

• 48:17Speaker 00

  Yeah, I mean, I'll show it. Like, it's, it's special occasions, but like, in the, in the club, you know, it's different.

• 48:22Michelle Obama?

  Bring it out.

• 48:23Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, usually it's not enough space to even like do all of that. Everybody like, what are you doing?

• 48:29Michelle Obama?

  Have you gotten to the point where you like, I don't wanna stand? Like, I can't.

• 48:34Speaker 00

  You don't stand no more? You don't stand? You just sit down in the club? You sit down in the club?

• 48:38Michelle Obama?

  I don't go to the club. Because if I have to stand, and the notion of watching a concert, standing up.

• 48:43Speaker 00

  Oh, you sit down at the concerts?

• 48:45Michelle Obama?

  I have to, I'm sixty-one, I need a seat.

• 48:50Speaker 00

  Let her sit down.

• 48:50Michelle Obama?

  That's what I feel like, you know?

• 48:52Speaker 00

  You're in shape, you're in shape.

• 48:52Michelle Obama?

  I still, I have less enjoyment, here's an IMO.

• 48:56Speaker 00

  Less enjoyment, less enjoyment.

• 48:58Michelle Obama?

  Here's an IMO.

• 49:00Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 49:01Michelle Obama?

  No one should stand up through an entire concert, in my opinion, everyone should sit down. They're everyone, and you want it, but just please sit down.

• 49:10Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah.

• 49:10Michelle Obama?

  But then people don't get up for the moment, and now it's like, oh, no, I gotta stand up too?

• 49:15Speaker 00

  And I was about to say, what do you do when people stand up in front of you? Do you just continue to sit? Or do you ask them to sit down?

• 49:22Michelle Obama?

  You have to stand up.

• 49:24Speaker 00

  You can't ask them to sit down.

• 49:26Michelle Obama?

  You can't ask people to sit down, you have to stand up, and then I wanna see.

• 49:28Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 49:29Michelle Obama?

  So now I got it. But I will have a period of trying to sit.

• 49:33Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 49:33Michelle Obama?

  There will be a period where I'm gonna try and sit. I'm gonna see if I can just encourage everyone. Do you notice how I'm sitting? Can we all just go back to doing this?

• 49:43Speaker 00

  Does it work?

• 49:44Michelle Obama?

  No, it doesn't, and then I have to get up.

• 49:46Speaker 00

  Come on.

• 49:47Michelle Obama?

  But are you, are you at that stage? Yeah?

• 49:51Speaker 00

  I do enjoy sitting through most of it. But I think things should have levels, you know, so like, I'm not just gonna stand the whole time. And I'm also worried that people can see, like, I'm very conscious of that. A lot of people ain't, this is bothers me.

• 50:03Michelle Obama?

  You're so considerate.

• 50:04Speaker 00

  I'm trying to be, which is what bothers me so much about, like, traffic. I be going crazy in traffic because people can be so inconsiderate.

• 50:11Michelle Obama?

  They can.

• 50:12Speaker 00

  You know? And like, when people are standing around, like, I get it, it's a sporting thing, but like, you know? Come on.

• 50:20Speaker 00

  Come on. So, does it take you forever to get everywhere? Or is it pretty quick?

• 50:25Michelle Obama?

  In New York?

• 50:26Speaker 00

  In New York.

• 50:27Michelle Obama?

  I mean, it doesn't make sense to have a motorcade in New York. I know it sounds, that's a crazy statement.

• 50:33Speaker 00

  It's almost impossible.

• 50:34Michelle Obama?

  Never thought I'd make it, but no, it's really, that's what makes New York not so much fun. Because, you know, you're watching people walk faster than you. It's like, I saw him.

• 50:44Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 50:44Michelle Obama?

  Like, he left two hours before and he beat us there.

• 50:47Speaker 00

  On the bikes.

• 50:48Michelle Obama?

  That's right.

• 50:49Speaker 00

  We go everywhere.

• 50:50Michelle Obama?

  Oh, you ride in New York? You ride your bike in New York? You, Keenan, are on a bike in New York?

• 50:54Speaker 00

  That sounds a little dangerous.

• 50:56Michelle Obama?

  One of those electric bikes? Are you pedaling like a human being?

• 51:00Speaker 00

  Sometimes, but I have my own bike, yes. And we cycle, but we, like, there's the bike path.

• 51:04Michelle Obama?

  Yes, well, that's, yes.

• 51:06Speaker 00

  Like, I did the thing through the streets and actually, like, hit somebody and broke my arm years ago.

• 51:12Michelle Obama?

  You did?

• 51:12Speaker 00

  Yeah. Which is actually the same.

• 51:15Michelle Obama?

  Tell us about this.

• 51:16Speaker 00

  So, I, it was like, I had a lunch that was like a few blocks away from the studio, so I was like, alright, I'll just grab a bike.

• 51:23Michelle Obama?

  A grown person?

• 51:24Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. This was.

• 51:25Michelle Obama?

  With a job?

• 51:26Speaker 00

  Not too long. This was when The Orange Man hosted last, I think.

• 51:31Michelle Obama?

  Oh, yeah.

• 51:32Speaker 00

  Ooh. It was that week. It was like a Tuesday. So, like, I was like, you know, we gotta, we make our own schedule kind of on Tuesday because our riding deadline is Wednesday morning, so like, got all day. So then I go to a little lunch and then I'll go to work. And the lunch was like nine blocks, four or five avenues. I was like, I'll grab a bike, take a bike, ride in on one of the streets. So, in New York, you know, there's not a lot of space when you're on the streets. On the avenues is different, but on the streets is like parking, parking, traffic. So there really ain't no space to just be doing anything.

• 52:03Michelle Obama?

  Yeah. I watched that from my motorcade and think this looks dangerous.

• 52:07Speaker 00

  So I'm just like riding down in between, you know, traffic and parked cars or whatever. And of course, this guy just came flopping up out of nowhere. And then I hit him with, you know, one of the handlebars. Like, I didn't like crash and flip over necessarily, but I hit him enough to make me fall down. And then like. I was like, ah, man, you know, it hurt whatever, but I could still move my arms. So I was like, all right, I'll just ride the work. It was a little numb, but you know, as the time, you know, as the blood started feeling like that pain started setting in. And like 15ish, 20ish minutes later, I was at my desk, kind of. So I made it to work, but like then I started like not being able to move my arm. And like, I remember that feeling because I broke this arm when I was a kid. I broke my wrist, but this was like my elbow and I was like.

• 52:53Michelle Obama?

  And you're older.

• 52:54Speaker 00

  And I'm older.

• 52:54Michelle Obama?

  It's an old elbow.

• 52:56Speaker 00

  And we got a show to do.

• 52:57Michelle Obama?

  Oh.

• 52:57Speaker 00

  You know, like this is Tuesday.

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• 58:04Speaker 03

  I'm Michelle in Craig. I have a 12-year-old daughter who's obsessed with YouTube. We try to limit her screen time, especially as she's reaching those vulnerable pre-teen years and teen years. But one thing she will not let go of is her desire to be an influencer. It's weird for me because it feels like she wants to be famous for famous's sake. I'm hopeful that this is a childhood thing, like me wanting to be an astronaut or a TV star as a kid. But still, I'd want her to follow her own intellectual interests or think about how she wants to be an impactful person. How do I talk to my daughter about this? Why do you think so many people want to be famous? And what would you tell a kid about what it's really like? Sandy in New Jersey.

• 58:45Speaker 00

  Wow, thank you Sandy in New Jersey. Yes, see what I mean? Absolutely. Um, yeah, I'm very familiar with fame wanted or unwanted because I didn't get into this for fame. I got into it because I enjoyed performing and I definitely wanted to be successful. But I didn't really understand what being famous really meant, you know? And it took a while for me to like navigate, you know, what that is based on, you know? Being a person, you know, growing, you know, going through people, whatever you're going through. You also have to be, you know, somewhat, you know, courteous to your fans, you know what I mean? Regardless of whether you're embracing that that day or not kind of thing.

• 59:30Speaker 00

  And it would have been nice to have had someone like instruct me in those kinds of ways. And it was kind of something I had to figure out on my own, like how to deal with the fact that I can't go to Chuck E. Cheese like that anymore. Kind of thing without, you know, being prepared to do this, you know what I mean? Or whatever. It would have been nice to have had a fame manual or something like that. But it does have its upsides, you know, like fame can launch you into your profession early. It can be financially beneficial, you know, so if you use it, you know, for the betterment of things, then yeah, it has its perks. But it's also very fleeting, you know what I mean? So if you're attached to being famous, then that's the most heartbreaking thing.

• 1:00:13Speaker 00

  When you go to a mall and nobody notices or cares, you know, because at some point you're gonna get aged out. You're just gonna not be like, you're not gonna treat Leave It To Beaver like the classic it was because it's not your time. And I would say she's right for being concerned about her daughter just wanting to be famous. Yeah. Because if that's the goal, then it probably won't last long. Hmm. And a lot of these like. Influencer people or whatever usually come and go pretty quickly from what I've been noticing. So I would focus on like, what's the passion behind all that pursuit? You know, the passion is something that's good for the world. I can get behind that, you know, because TikTok is giving us a lot of information. You know what I mean?

• 1:00:58Speaker 00

  So it can be a good tool.

• 1:01:01Craig Robinson?

  You know, it's, it's really interesting that the term fame for fame's sake. Like, we, we didn't grow up with that, that phrasing.

• 1:01:13Speaker 00

  Right.

• 1:01:14Craig Robinson?

  Those words were around, but that phrasing, fame for fame's sake. And it feels more like to me that these young folks are willing to be famous at any cost or at any expense, however. It just, and that feels very unhealthy. It's like, it's so important to be famous that they're willing to, you know, they used to say in the old days, sell their souls to the devil, right? And I, I, I wanna make sure that we let Sandy know that there's a discussion that should be had with your daughter about, you know, being famous is okay and being not famous is okay,

• 1:01:58Craig Robinson?

  but you shouldn't be at, at a cost that's detrimental.

• 1:02:04Speaker 00

  It's burdensome, you know? And I don't think people realize like, what a burden it can really be like. Yes, it's nice to like go to a restaurant without a reservation or whatever, you know? But at the same time, if you look at most of the famous people in this world, a lot of them haven't done well with that side of it. You know what I mean? A lot of people just wanna be able to go to the gas station. You know what I mean? Or go to the grocery store without having to like put on brand new Nikes or whatever just because they're a rapper, you know? So.

• 1:02:34Speaker 00

  It's not anything to necessarily play with, and I feel like they play with it a lot on social media. You know what I mean? Like, how much cash can I show? Or how much, you know, how many, you know, this challenge or that challenge? You know what I'm saying? Is that gonna like get my likes up for this? You know, let me take a selfie in a dangerous position, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But I think artists and creativity, you know, I mean, is a good thing.

• 1:02:56Michelle Obama?

  Mm-hmm, yeah, yeah. I always say, there's no way for a young people, a young person to understand the value of anonymity. You know?

• 1:03:07Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:03:07Michelle Obama?

  I think the thing that I miss most in life is just the ability to be in the world unobserved. You know, there's just a beauty to be able to sit on a sidewalk cafe with a cup of coffee.

• 1:03:25Speaker 00

  But as a tall person.

• 1:03:27Michelle Obama?

  Well, as a.

• 1:03:27Speaker 00

  When was the last time you was able to just go anywhere?

• 1:03:30Michelle Obama?

  Thank you, Keenan, thank you, because that is, go ahead, finish your point. True, but the point is, is that that's, it's uncomfortable.

• 1:03:38Speaker 00

  Absolutely.

• 1:03:38Michelle Obama?

  Whether it's because you're famous, or tall, or distinguishable, to miss out on blending in, in the world, and just being able to watch it. Right? I mean, that's a, that's a pretty complex concept.

• 1:03:54Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:03:55Michelle Obama?

  To try to articulate to a young person, right? That there's value in that.

• 1:04:01Speaker 00

  Anyone, because it's such a dichotomy, ooh, we getting deep with the word.

• 1:04:05Michelle Obama?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:04:06Speaker 00

  It's such a like, double edged sword, because the grass is always greener. Like, the people that are blending in are figuring out how to stand up.

• 1:04:12Michelle Obama?

  Out, that's right.

• 1:04:13Speaker 00

  So it's like.

• 1:04:14Michelle Obama?

  That's right.

• 1:04:14Speaker 00

  What do you do with, what, you play that hand you dealt?

• 1:04:19Michelle Obama?

  But I think the point you make about, what I would say to Sandy, I would echo what you said. Keep your, your child focused on the passion. And if there's a real passion there, you know, then encourage it. I mean, there's some people who look at some child stars that are getting. Famous or their parents are encouraging it and they're like, oh, what's going on? What are they trying to do? Well, you know, you don't know that child.

• 1:04:46Speaker 00

  Right.

• 1:04:46Michelle Obama?

  You know, they may, they may have, and there are kids out there who have such a deep, deep yearning to make music or to perform, that it's really not the parent.

• 1:04:57Speaker 00

  Right.

• 1:04:57Michelle Obama?

  It is the child's passion that's speaking. And that can show up at four and five and seven and 12. And so it's, it's hard to judge a parent that says, I'm just trying to let my kid explore the thing, the gift that they were given.

• 1:05:12Speaker 00

  Right.

• 1:05:13Michelle Obama?

  That is, that's a different thing.

• 1:05:15Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:05:15Michelle Obama?

  And now parenting with that, that gift, that, that, that's an art, that's an art form.

• 1:05:21Speaker 00

  100%.

• 1:05:22Michelle Obama?

  Because you gotta help them learn how to protect themselves as they invest in the gift, which means that mom and dad and everybody around them can't want it more than they do.

• 1:05:35Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 1:05:36Michelle Obama?

  And that would be something I would want to make sure that Sandy is clear on. Is like, when it's your kid, you have to be even more clear-headed about their wants when they're, you know, especially when they're entering into dicey territory of fame or social media exposure, because, you know, is it you that wants it? You know?

• 1:05:59Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:06:00Michelle Obama?

  Are you really looking for their passion? Or have you, as a parent, fallen prey to the fame and the money and the, you know?

• 1:06:09Speaker 00

  And we grow, you know? We grow, especially kids, like, kids might like soccer today and hate it the next day, you know? So we, as adults, know you gotta give yourself space to grow and like, continue to grow and become your best version of yourself. But if you don't allow that for a child and then you add fame on top of it, it's a pretty toxic mix, more than likely. And I think that common denominator of the ones that have been able to navigate it is family. It is parents that are like, behind you and focused, not necessarily pushing you. Past your boundaries necessarily, but encouraging, yes. And like you said, it can't just be for them. It can't be like, you know, the crazy momagers, popagers, or whatever that's out there that just wanna be

• 1:06:55Speaker 00

  living vicariously kinda thing, you know, so.

• 1:06:58Michelle Obama?

  What if your, your kid said, "Dad, I'm, I wanna be like you. I wanna be in it."

• 1:07:04Speaker 00

  That little, can we bring my daughter in here? That little one, she wants to be on. She gonna be mad if she doesn't get a chance to come in here.

• 1:07:11Michelle Obama?

  She, she can come in here.

• 1:07:13Speaker 00

  Can we get my little, like, my two little girls?

• 1:07:15Michelle Obama?

  Bring them in?

• 1:07:16Speaker 00

  They'll, they'll take a minute to walk down the hallway, but she's a ham and her sister's a ham too. Like, they both, they get silly and they have their moments. And they want, you know, to be on stuff. We did a Nintendo commercial together.

• 1:07:29Michelle Obama?

  Oh, really?

• 1:07:30Speaker 00

  It was the greatest day of my life because they had their own trailer, you know what I mean? And like, they just had their own little world and we worked together for hours and hours and hours. And we're so focused. And my big girl was like, she like, she focuses hard on things. She wants to get everything right. You know, firstborn kids, I think, have a lot of that mental responsibility on their minds. So watching her, you know what I mean, like, take direction and like, take it really serious. I could've cried all day. You know, it was so sweet. And, yeah, that little one, she just, you know, she wants to be a star. She sings, you know, and like, she likes attention, so we are watching her.

• 1:08:09Michelle Obama?

  Right, right, right.

• 1:08:10Speaker 00

  Because, yeah, we want her to like, understand the difference, you know? There's a difference between enjoying attention and just wanting to be famous kinda thing, you know what I mean? And like, I think enjoying attention can be easily massaged into performance and becoming an artist and stuff like that. When it's like, you just want fame, it's like, they feel like you're leaving the arts out a little bit, you know, which is sadder, you know? It's a little sadder.

• 1:08:36Craig Robinson?

  Yeah.

• 1:08:37Speaker 00

  And there they go.

• 1:08:38Craig Robinson?

  Hi, guys!

• 1:08:40Speaker 00

  You say hi.

• 1:08:41Michelle Obama?

  Hi, cutie!

• 1:08:42Craig Robinson?

  Hi, nice to meet you.

• 1:08:44Michelle Obama?

  How are you?

• 1:08:45Speaker 00

  You gotta go say hi.

• 1:08:48Craig Robinson?

  How are you? I'm great.

• 1:08:51Michelle Obama?

  Oh, what a young lady. Hi, Georgia. I'm Michelle. How are you, sweetie? Good, how are you? Good. Come on over here. Here, you can, I know you're big, but you can sit here so that we can see you in the camera.

• 1:09:03Speaker 00

  Sitting in the big seat.

• 1:09:04Michelle Obama?

  Yes. What grade are you in? Fifth. Fifth, that's a serious grade. Are you going into fifth, or did you finish fifth grade? Finished. So you're a sixth grader? Yeah. All right.

• 1:09:16Speaker 00

  Big girl.

• 1:09:17Michelle Obama?

  All right.

• 1:09:17Speaker 00

  Sweetheart.

• 1:09:18Craig Robinson?

  And, but Gianna, how about you? What grade are you going in?

• 1:09:23Michelle Obama?

  I'm going to second grade. Wow. Wow. Well, it has been really fun to have your dad on our podcast. He's kind of a cool guy. You think, well, what do you think of your dad? He's a cool guy. Okay.

• 1:09:44Michelle Obama?

  He's, I think, cool guy.

• 1:09:47Speaker 00

  Cool guy.

• 1:09:49Michelle Obama?

  And this is my brother. So, one of the things your dad told us that he wants to make sure you guys always know is that you guys have each other forever. And sometimes you may fight, and as the big sister, sometimes she may get on your nerves and your big sister may act like she knows everything, and that's annoying. But in the end, you guys really do just have each other. I have two girls too, and they used to fight when they were your age, but guess what? They're best friends now.

• 1:10:22Speaker 00

  See?

• 1:10:22Michelle Obama?

  They live together.

• 1:10:25Michelle Obama?

  And so that can happen one day.

• 1:10:26Speaker 00

  That's the coolest.

• 1:10:27Michelle Obama?

  May not be something you can even envision right now, but but staying close and taking care of each other as sisters, that's important.

• 1:10:36Speaker 00

  Yes, it is.

• 1:10:36Michelle Obama?

  As in, you can be like me and my brother, that we love each other so much, we can do a whole show together. We can work together.

• 1:10:42Speaker 00

  See? How about that?

• 1:10:43Michelle Obama?

  Yeah.

• 1:10:44Speaker 00

  How many episodes now?

• 1:10:46Michelle Obama?

  Twenty episodes.

• 1:10:47Speaker 00

  You see that they've done twenty shows already?

• 1:10:48Michelle Obama?

  And you're the first kids we've had on.

• 1:10:50Craig Robinson?

  We've had on.

• 1:10:52Michelle Obama?

  Woo. All right.

• 1:10:53Speaker 00

  Go find your mommy.

• 1:10:54Michelle Obama?

  All right. All right, you guys.

• 1:10:55Speaker 00

  I love these both.

• 1:10:56Michelle Obama?

  It was great to meet you.

• 1:10:58Craig Robinson?

  Nice to meet you.

• 1:10:59Michelle Obama?

  All right.

• 1:11:00Craig Robinson?

  See you, bye. But we'll see you out there.

• 1:11:02Michelle Obama?

  All right. Wow, they're gorgeous.

• 1:11:04Speaker 00

  Thank you for indulging them.

• 1:11:05Michelle Obama?

  Oh, my gosh.

• 1:11:06Speaker 00

  They're my babies.

• 1:11:07Michelle Obama?

  They're the first, they're the first kids.

• 1:11:09Craig Robinson?

  Our kids haven't even been on the show.

• 1:11:11Michelle Obama?

  They won't. See, that's what happens. Our kids, no, they won't. They'll be like, well, good, maybe you'll be, you'll get rid of us. You'll stop talking about us.

• 1:11:20Speaker 00

  I love it.

• 1:11:21Michelle Obama?

  Well, yeah, no wonder you're putty. Yeah.

• 1:11:24Speaker 00

  I'm over it.

• 1:11:24Michelle Obama?

  You don't have a chance.

• 1:11:26Speaker 00

  Nope. It's done. Shining up these knuckles.

• 1:11:28Craig Robinson?

  Yeah, you're gonna have to get the uncles ready.

• 1:11:31Speaker 00

  Yeah, 100%. They on deck. They been like, yeah, maybe when you let me know.

• 1:11:39Michelle Obama?

  Well, Keenan, it has been just a delight to spend time with you. Well, it doesn't. Come to the venue.

• 1:11:46Speaker 00

  Yeah, I'm coming.

• 1:11:47Michelle Obama?

  Come see us. Okay. All right. But so proud of the man you are.

• 1:11:52Speaker 00

  Thank you.

• 1:11:52Michelle Obama?

  You know, not just your accomplishments, but you are a good man.

• 1:11:56Speaker 00

  I tried, man.

• 1:11:57Michelle Obama?

  Kind man.

• 1:11:58Speaker 00

  Thank you.

• 1:11:58Michelle Obama?

  You, you, you were clearly brought up with your manners.

• 1:12:02Speaker 00

  Yes, I was.

• 1:12:03Michelle Obama?

  So.

• 1:12:03Speaker 00

  I got my manners right here in my pockets. All day long.

• 1:12:06Michelle Obama?

  Yeah. Well, thank you. It has been a pleasure.

• 1:12:10Speaker 00

  Thank you, man. It's such a pleasure. We'll do part two soon.

• 1:12:12Michelle Obama?

  We will do part two.

• 1:12:13Craig Robinson?

  Oh, absolutely.

• 1:12:13Speaker 00

  What am I gonna wait for part two?

• 1:12:15Michelle Obama?

  Oh.

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