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• 0:00Hannah Berner?

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• 0:43Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, remember when I told you how excited I was about Lululemon dropping their fall collection on September 8? Well, the collection is finally here and I just got my hands on a few pieces. And let's just say, these will be in my rotation on repeat. I got the Groove Yoga Bra and the High Rise Matching Short. They're so buttery soft. They have laser cut pocket openings for optional and removable cups, which I love that because sometimes I don't want to have a bra insert when I'm working out, but sometimes I do. Performance never compromises style at Lululemon. I love their vintage-inspired styles and everything comes in such an assortment of colors. So if you don't want to stick to black, which is my traditional go-to, you can explore other colors. Like, I love a burgundy workout set.

• 1:26Paige DeSorbo?

  New styles from Lululemon's fall collection are here. Popular colors go fast, so be on the lookout for those drops. And if something doesn't work out for you, free returns always. That's lululemon.com, lululemon.com.

• 1:38Hannah Berner?

  I was thinking about how women have so many little things we have to do when we're getting home that you have to be aware of.

• 1:45Paige DeSorbo?

  Like, so many people have my location.

• 1:47Hannah Berner?

  And you have to share your ETA, you have to check the route, you have to text everyone I'm home.

• 1:51Paige DeSorbo?

  And if your friend, like, doesn't text you, "Oh, you got home," you're calling the FBI.

• 1:55Hannah Berner?

  Yep. Yep. And we joke about it because it's so normal to us, but you're constantly paying attention. And even when you're exhausted and just want to get home, your brain still has to be on. You're like, is this guy going the right route? Am I in the right place? Who's around me? What's happening?

• 2:09Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, there's truly no clocking out of your safety.

• 2:12Hannah Berner?

  And that's why riding in a Waymo feels different. It's an autonomous ride with an empty driver's seat. So, once you get in, you have this private space that's actually just yours.

• 2:20Paige DeSorbo?

  And you know, I love alone time and I truly feel like it's such a luxury in a Waymo.

• 2:25Hannah Berner?

  Especially after being social. Like, I love everyone, but like...

• 2:28Paige DeSorbo?

  Please, nobody speak to me.

• 2:29Hannah Berner?

  Like, give me 20 minutes. I want music, the right temperature. There's no compromising. And you can customize the ride, put on your own music, answer texts you ignored all night, stare out the window. You actually have a minute where you're not thinking about everyone else.

• 2:43Paige DeSorbo?

  And that's the thing. It's not even necessarily about doing something. Sometimes it's just, you want to sit there and not speak.

• 2:50Hannah Berner?

  And put your guard down for a second and feel safe.

• 2:53Paige DeSorbo?

  Which truly, women deserve.

• 2:55Hannah Berner?

  We deserve to disassociate safely for 20 minutes.

• 2:58Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. I mean, put that on a t-shirt, for real.

• 3:01Hannah Berner?

  And obviously, safety is a huge part of why that feeling matters. Knowing Waymo's safer, there's something refreshing in having that space where you can just be yourself and let Waymo handle the driving.

• 3:10Paige DeSorbo?

  And we spend enough of our lives being on.

• 3:13Hannah Berner?

  Exactly.

• 3:14Paige DeSorbo?

  We don't need to be on in the car.

• 3:16Hannah Berner?

  Getting around shouldn't require so much mental energy. And if this sounds like your ideal way to get around too, download the Waymo app and use code GIGLY to get 20% off your next two rides. You can check out the full terms in the app.

• 3:28Paige DeSorbo?

  We love a discount.

• 3:29Hannah Berner?

  And if Waymo isn't in your city yet, head to waymo.com/gigly to sign up and help bring Waymo to you.

• 3:37Hannah Berner?

  Sup, Gigglers?

• 3:38Speaker 02

  Gary, fix the wifi.

• 3:40Hannah Berner?

  Manifest that shit.

• 3:42Speaker 02

  We can't be managed.

• 3:47Speaker 02

  I mean, the day just got away from me.

• 3:50Paige DeSorbo?

  If you're watching, first...

• 3:52Hannah Berner?

  Take a breather.

• 3:52Paige DeSorbo?

  Welcome.

• 3:53Hannah Berner?

  Sorry, I'm wearing the same outfit as you.

• 3:55Paige DeSorbo?

  I was on FaceTime with Hannah. She saw me get dressed.

• 3:58Hannah Berner?

  See, this is where there's two sides to every story. Yes, I technically saw you, but I wasn't processing. I was looking at myself in FaceTime.

• 4:05Paige DeSorbo?

  Right.

• 4:05Hannah Berner?

  I wasn't like, oh, she's wearing a white shirt. That's like a great idea.

• 4:08Paige DeSorbo?

  And glasses and black pants. Or what are you wearing on your feet?

• 4:11Hannah Berner?

  And that's why we're different.

• 4:14Hannah Berner?

  My, my comfortable sandals.

• 4:16Paige DeSorbo?

  Um, okay, look, obviously we're live, like, we see the internet, we see it, we know what's going on. And this is Giggly Squad, which is funny.

• 4:27Hannah Berner?

  Cause we have to laugh through insanity. Yes, yes.

• 4:31Paige DeSorbo?

  Um, so we will say, obviously, Ciara is our real friend in real life. So we have been talking to her, consoling her. We are behind her 100%. We would never capitalize or monetize off of our friend's heartbreak.

• 4:48Hannah Berner?

  We love you, Ciara, as the one and only guest that's ever been on Giggly Squad, who's a woman besides a couple cat psychics.

• 4:54Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm sorry, Trevor Wallace, but like, we kind of just erase you from history. We're like, we never had a guest, except one time a redheaded man came in and the girls rioted. Anyway, I digress.

• 5:03Hannah Berner?

  Digress.

• 5:04Paige DeSorbo?

  But, he, the la- and this is the last thing I'm gonna say about it.

• 5:09Hannah Berner?

  Throughout the whole pod.

• 5:10Paige DeSorbo?

  And this is, and this is the final thing I'm gonna say about it, because Ciara is a strong, intelligent, capable woman. She will speak her truth when it is her time. I would never speak for her. And also, this is reality TV. Like, there is very concrete reasons on why Hannah and I are no longer a part of reality TV. It's one of the scariest things you can ever do in your entire life. Um, and it's partly why we created Giggly Squad, so.

• 5:42Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, I think this is an example of how, like, what actually is going on in people's lives is far crazier than anything they ever show.

• 5:51Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 5:52Hannah Berner?

  And I think Giggly Squad was created after us seeing how they wanted to pick fights and how they wanted to pick people. And we felt like so much was on the cutting room floor and they weren't showing the things that they should show, they wouldn't show. And Giggly Squad is where we could just be ourselves and laugh. And I do have to just shout out Ciara, that, um, I was. Supposed to be beefing with her from the second I met her. Like, we should have, we should have never had a chance. Like, it was immediate, like, you two need to fight over a man. And the second I met her, I looked her in the eye and we were like, I love you. You love cats. I fuck with you.

• 6:32Paige DeSorbo?

  I was just gonna say.

• 6:33Hannah Berner?

  And.

• 6:33Paige DeSorbo?

  She's like a cat ring on.

• 6:34Hannah Berner?

  And she's had my back since the day I met her. And I feel the same way towards her, so I love you.

• 6:40Paige DeSorbo?

  Um, so since I've been trying to be off my phone.

• 6:43Hannah Berner?

  I deleted my apps.

• 6:44Paige DeSorbo?

  Hannah called me today.

• 6:48Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, also.

• 6:48Hannah Berner?

  I deleted the calculator app.

• 6:49Paige DeSorbo?

  Also, I don't run the Daphne DeSorbo account. I need to say that. I just need to say that because I don't run it. I don't know who runs it. Shout out to their Canva game, but it is not me. So please stop tagging me.

• 7:01Hannah Berner?

  Are you sure it's not Daphne, though?

• 7:04Paige DeSorbo?

  And let me just give, like, one little snippet. Yeah, our group chat is better than yours. It's popping off, okay? I'd be jealous, too. Hannah, why do you think I'm wearing glasses? I've been in the investigation. People being like, Paige is silent, Paige is silent.

• 7:22Hannah Berner?

  We're like Mary-Kate and Ashley in those trench coats. That's us. You could re-watch that movie if you want to actually see what we've been up to.

• 7:28Paige DeSorbo?

  And here's one of the things that I also will say is, like, we really do know the importance of female friendships. And one thing that was happening, like, when I was going through a breakup, after all was said and done, I think I called Hannah one day and I was just like, thanks for letting me talk about this same situation for the past seven months and just, like, going over it again with me and going over it again with me. So, like, we are real friends. So if you think that I haven't gone over the same scenarios so many different times over the past year with my girlfriends, like, you're crazy. Like, it is weird to see things on the internet because you're like, those are my real girlfriends.

• 8:11Paige DeSorbo?

  So, yeah, I'm gonna react differently than to the people that are just natural viewers. You don't know them, like, and I'm no longer on the show, so I'm not.

• 8:19Hannah Berner?

  Also, there is, like, whenever you post something, it becomes a news article where it's like, that's not what you want.

• 8:25Paige DeSorbo?

  Right.

• 8:25Hannah Berner?

  You guys donated a shit ton to the food bank. I posted a food bank Instagram story and everyone. They're all donating. So the New York City Food Bank is very happy for everyone who's

• 8:34Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh my gosh, good.

• 8:35Hannah Berner?

  For all you little sleuths on my Instagram.

• 8:36Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh my god. This is a good point because a couple of weeks ago, I had made, Daphne had made a t-shirt for St. Jude for just like a, something like in-house that they were doing. We didn't like post about it really because it was like for something they were doing at the hospital. But so many people DMs about the, the t-shirt. So we are gonna put them on the Daphne website. And then obviously, all the money will go to St. Jude's. But I've become like a partner with St. Jude. Um, and I'm gonna do more with them throughout the year. But. Hi, how are you?

• 9:08Hannah Berner?

  The day, some stuff went down.

• 9:09Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 9:10Hannah Berner?

  We were together.

• 9:11Paige DeSorbo?

  Mm-hmm.

• 9:12Hannah Berner?

  Working.

• 9:13Paige DeSorbo?

  As one does.

• 9:13Hannah Berner?

  As two women do. And stuff starts going down and I'm like, Paige, I just dropped my music video. And you were like, hey babe, not now.

• 9:21Paige DeSorbo?

  (laughing)

• 9:22Hannah Berner?

  You're like, hey, like you know when a mom's like trying to have a conversation with an adult and someone's like, mom, mom, mom?

• 9:28Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I'm literally, I'm on the phone. I literally like, I'm on the phone.

• 9:33Hannah Berner?

  She's taking, like, she's, press is calling her and she's having to like, and I'm like, ma, ma.

• 9:39Paige DeSorbo?

  Hey, which is a waste of my damn time.

• 9:41Hannah Berner?

  Look what I could do. I go, look what I could do, look what I could do. And she looks at me and she's like, what are you talking about? And I go, it's my world premiere. And she goes, I thought this was a joke. And I go, it's not. It's a music video that I really produced.

• 9:51Paige DeSorbo?

  I thought it was a bit.

• 9:52Hannah Berner?

  Okay, well, it's not. And then I go, can you watch it? Now, I do have to say, the pain of watching someone watch something you're forced to watch.

• 9:58Paige DeSorbo?

  You male YouTube videoed me.

• 9:59Hannah Berner?

  I, YouTube.

• 10:00Paige DeSorbo?

  You were over my shoulder.

• 10:01Hannah Berner?

  I waterboarded you, did you? But I, the funniest part about it is like, you don't realize till someone else is watching something, how long it actually is. Cause when you're watching it through someone else's eyes, it actually is like dog ears. I am so sorry, that was the longest music video I've, I mean, if the only one I've ever done. But it was, it was unnecessarily like 40 seconds too long.

• 10:18Paige DeSorbo?

  Paul Wall's gonna call any minute. I mean, it's kind of crazy.

• 10:22Hannah Berner?

  So then like someone else came in the apartment and I was like, hey, and they're like, what's going on? And I go, I just dropped my music video. And Paige was like, Hannah, shut the fuck up.

• 10:29Paige DeSorbo?

  I was like, stop telling people. Let's get to like some important stuff.

• 10:32Hannah Berner?

  Let's get to like why you're actually stressed.

• 10:34Paige DeSorbo?

  No, let's. When I'm on my iPad at night, I know no bounds.

• 10:40Hannah Berner?

  Sometimes I'm like, it's time to take the iPad away.

• 10:42Paige DeSorbo?

  When you tell me, hey, don't go on socials, I'm still alive and a human. So we're like, I'm gonna be on my phone. So I'm pulling up Pinterest, I'm on Amazon, I'm shopping and all of a sudden I get it in my head. Now simultaneously, I'm thinking about how there's a pile of clothes in my closet that I need to hang up and like put away. Just like I'm thinking like closet mode. I'm getting, I'm like, should I organize something?

• 11:08Hannah Berner?

  Also, if you never need to organize, you can come over to my place too, if you ever just want.

• 11:12Paige DeSorbo?

  Let's not push it. But when you're trying to be off your phone, crazy things happen. I fed the cat.

• 11:18Hannah Berner?

  Called my grandma.

• 11:20Paige DeSorbo?

  Literally, I met my brother for the third time.

• 11:24Hannah Berner?

  I learned how to read.

• 11:25Paige DeSorbo?

  Have you ever heard of a steamer closet?

• 11:28Hannah Berner?

  It's a closet just for steaming? Yourself or for clothes?

• 11:32Paige DeSorbo?

  Clothes. I wonder what would happen if you got in it. Probably nothing good. But I've only ever seen one in person at Amazon, like at the Amazon studio. Like they have one in one of the green rooms and you can like throw your outfit in there or whatever.

• 11:44Hannah Berner?

  And you close the door?

• 11:45Paige DeSorbo?

  And you close the door. It looks, it's basically like a dry cleaner at home. So I'm doing some research and looking them up. $2,000. I think, hmm. It is a little steep, but let me girl math it for a second. How much time would I save steaming my clothes and not bringing things to the dry cleaners? Like using this little.

• 12:09Hannah Berner?

  And as a CEO of a business.

• 12:11Paige DeSorbo?

  And as someone that owns a fashion brand, I should be pressed.

• 12:15Hannah Berner?

  And I do have to say, it's a write-off. I look like an accountant right now. That's why I thought of that.

• 12:20Paige DeSorbo?

  So I purchased it. And right now it's in my foyer because it's so fucking big.

• 12:25Hannah Berner?

  That's like when you order a couch and you're like.

• 12:27Paige DeSorbo?

  No idea. I haven't even, I'm honestly, I'm actually waiting for my dad to come over. So that an adult knows how to get it up.

• 12:35Hannah Berner?

  Perfect thing for a dad to do, but I know Gary's gonna be like, what the hell is this?

• 12:39Paige DeSorbo?

  He's gonna love it, which brings me to my next point. I'm hosting my first holiday this year, this Sunday. Jesus has risen. I'm hosting Easter, which.

• 12:49Hannah Berner?

  God has died, Jesus has risen.

• 12:52Paige DeSorbo?

  You just made that up.

• 12:53Hannah Berner?

  Christ has come again. Sorry, I'm a singer.

• 12:56Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, and you know what?

• 12:57Hannah Berner?

  Remix coming soon.

• 12:58Paige DeSorbo?

  I realized not that many people celebrate Easter, I feel like.

• 13:04Paige DeSorbo?

  Like, no, like I'm saying, even the people that like, that is your religion.

• 13:07Hannah Berner?

  Italians do.

• 13:08Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, but I feel like some people, like, a lot of people don't make it a big deal.

• 13:12Hannah Berner?

  I feel like, well, growing up, for sure, there was like Easter egg hunts. Once my Nana made Jell-O Easter eggs. And I guess they like went down a little too easy. I had like 14 of them and then I threw up in the car and it was all like green. It was just like green and like I still haven't lived it down. My dad brings it up all the time. And it was actually traumatic. I've never had Jell-O since.

• 13:33Paige DeSorbo?

  You're coming to my Easter.

• 13:35Hannah Berner?

  And I hope there's Jell-O eggs there. No, wait, I'm so excited.

• 13:39Paige DeSorbo?

  There won't be.

• 13:40Hannah Berner?

  I'm trying to get Dez to dress up as

• 13:42Paige DeSorbo?

  As the Easter bunny.

• 13:43Hannah Berner?

  The Easter bunny, which we almost did, but we kind of messed it up in our pitch.

• 13:47Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, I should have said that it was my idea.

• 13:49Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, if you wanted it, he would have done it, but he knows it's just me just messing with him.

• 13:52Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm not cooking. I'm catering. So like, am I hosting?

• 13:57Hannah Berner?

  Yes, you are.

• 13:58Paige DeSorbo?

  I mean, there's like about 20 people.

• 13:59Hannah Berner?

  Having people in your space is an emotional exhaustion.

• 14:03Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, like last night I was like, I don't have any ice buckets.

• 14:08Hannah Berner?

  No.

• 14:08Paige DeSorbo?

  How am I hosting?

• 14:09Hannah Berner?

  Do you have garbage?

• 14:10Paige DeSorbo?

  With no ice buckets?

• 14:12Hannah Berner?

  Do you have enough garbage bags for when people just like toss their cup arounds?

• 14:17Paige DeSorbo?

  I have enough garbage bags.

• 14:19Hannah Berner?

  Okay. Look at me trying to host. That's the one thing I worry about.

• 14:22Paige DeSorbo?

  But it's really stressful. I don't know how people do this all the time.

• 14:25Hannah Berner?

  People get mad about garbage.

• 14:27Paige DeSorbo?

  People get mad about garbage.

• 14:28Hannah Berner?

  I also texted you, because Dez was gonna be gone all weekend and then I was like, wait, he's actually gonna be around. Can he come? And you go, imagine if I said no. No, but he would have been so funny as the bunny because he does like a character arc. And he likes to, he would give it his all.

• 14:43Paige DeSorbo?

  I feel like if the suit's there.

• 14:45Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, I might just Amazon it and be like, oh my God, did you order? I'd be like, Paige must have sent it. We'll see.

• 14:49Paige DeSorbo?

  We'll see.

• 14:50Hannah Berner?

  Maybe I'll do it.

• 14:51Paige DeSorbo?

  I feel like that's really what you've been gunning at this whole time.

• 14:55Hannah Berner?

  I want Kim Desorbo to respect me.

• 14:57Paige DeSorbo?

  Well.

• 15:01Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait Hannah texted-

• 15:01Hannah Berner?

  I envisioned me and Kim with some wine in the corner talking shit about you. Like that's what I envisioned.

• 15:07Paige DeSorbo?

  Hannah texted me today like out of nowhere and was like, Kim's waiting for this email. And I was like, who? Like I literally didn't know what she was talking about and Hannah was like, your mom. Cause you were like waiting for an email and she was like, I bet your mom's waiting also.

• 15:21Hannah Berner?

  I hate who I become in these social events because again, I'm gonna be like, oh, like we have to socialize. But I think I'm gonna be excited.

• 15:28Paige DeSorbo?

  You actually said to me the other day, don't worry, I'm gonna leave before it gets serious. Like Jesus is actually gonna rise in my apartment. I'm like, what, at what part is it getting serious? Take me with you. I don't wanna say when it's, when's it's serious? You're like, don't worry, I'm gonna scoot out right before. I'm like, before what?

• 15:45Hannah Berner?

  Before Christ rises.

• 15:46Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 15:47Hannah Berner?

  Is there anything that I should know about it before, like to prep? Is there a-

• 15:51Paige DeSorbo?

  What are you gonna wear?

• 15:52Hannah Berner?

  Pastels, right?

• 15:53Paige DeSorbo?

  It is, um-

• 15:54Hannah Berner?

  Oh, there's a theme?

• 15:57Paige DeSorbo?

  It is business casual. No, I'm just, it's Easter brunch.

• 16:01Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, it's Easter brunch.

• 16:02Paige DeSorbo?

  Like I'm gonna be in this yellow Gucci dress that I saw Kate-

• 16:09Hannah Berner?

  Kate Blanchett.

• 16:11Paige DeSorbo?

  Jessica Chastain.

• 16:12Hannah Berner?

  Got it.

• 16:13Paige DeSorbo?

  I saw her wear it on the cover of a magazine and I was like, that dress needs to be mine. And so I'm gonna wear that for Easter.

• 16:20Hannah Berner?

  What's Kim wearing?

• 16:21Paige DeSorbo?

  You know, I don't know.

• 16:22Hannah Berner?

  Speaking moms. Lenora Cudabob.

• 16:25Paige DeSorbo?

  And how is it? Is she different?

• 16:26Hannah Berner?

  She's gorgeous. Well, she's sending me a lot of selfies. She's loving it.

• 16:30Paige DeSorbo?

  I saw the pixie cut.

• 16:32Hannah Berner?

  That we posted on Giggly Squad account. What do you think?

• 16:34Paige DeSorbo?

  Gorgeous. I love it.

• 16:36Hannah Berner?

  Not for you?

• 16:37Paige DeSorbo?

  It is for me.

• 16:38Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, you're not ready.

• 16:40Paige DeSorbo?

  Not right now.

• 16:40Hannah Berner?

  You're not ready.

• 16:41Paige DeSorbo?

  I think, here's what I think. In like a couple years, she's post-wedding.

• 16:46Hannah Berner?

  Chasing children around.

• 16:47Paige DeSorbo?

  She's pre-children.

• 16:49Hannah Berner?

  Oh, pre-children.

• 16:50Paige DeSorbo?

  She's post-wedding, but she's pre-children. Somewhere in there.

• 16:54Hannah Berner?

  I feel like if you're nervous about getting an ugly haircut, do it when you're pregnant. My mom shaved her head when she was pregnant. It was iconic.

• 17:00Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, but she was in New York City in 1991, in the middle of the, of August.

• 17:07Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, she was, yeah. She was eight months in the summer. So in terms of what I wanna wear, Dez, I know will look cute. He's got it like the preppy look. Me, I don't wanna wear something that- Upsets anyone?

• 17:18Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay.

• 17:19Hannah Berner?

  I don't want to take the tension away from Christ our Lord and Savior.

• 17:22Paige DeSorbo?

  Right.

• 17:23Hannah Berner?

  Cause it's not about me on Easter. I'm not the main character.

• 17:26Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. Do you want me to make you an Easter basket?

• 17:28Hannah Berner?

  Yes. Do you have a chocolate bunny?

• 17:32Paige DeSorbo?

  Damn it, I don't have a chocolate bunny.

• 17:34Hannah Berner?

  That's what I forgot.

• 17:36Paige DeSorbo?

  I've been ordering stuff on Amazon since February.

• 17:40Hannah Berner?

  I need to bring a gift.

• 17:41Paige DeSorbo?

  Cause I was like, oh my God, my mom's gonna come and be like, what is this table scape? So I need to like impress my mom with my table scape thing.

• 17:48Hannah Berner?

  Oh my God, I'm so nervous for you.

• 17:49Paige DeSorbo?

  It's so stressful. And let me tell you something, there's not a lot of Easter stuff out there for boys. Try doing an Easter basket for a little boy. It's really hard.

• 17:58Hannah Berner?

  Just get them dirt.

• 17:59Paige DeSorbo?

  So anyway.

• 18:00Hannah Berner?

  A couple of rocks.

• 18:01Paige DeSorbo?

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• 18:45Paige DeSorbo?

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• 19:30Paige DeSorbo?

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• 20:14Paige DeSorbo?

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• 22:27Hannah Berner?

  You know who's not thriving?

• 22:28Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 22:29Hannah Berner?

  Tiger Woods and Justin Timberlake.

• 22:31Paige DeSorbo?

  Like, this is either I'm in a different timeline and this is a Mandela effect, or I've seen this news article.

• 22:37Hannah Berner?

  Did you just bring up Mandela effect?

• 22:39Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 22:39Hannah Berner?

  We've never done that on Giggly Squad.

• 22:40Paige DeSorbo?

  You're never on TikTok and you're like, and people are like, what timeline are you in? If you remember this, then you're on this timeline.

• 22:47Hannah Berner?

  You smoke weed.

• 22:50Paige DeSorbo?

  Thank God. Thank God.

• 22:53Hannah Berner?

  No, I don't have any vice.

• 22:54Paige DeSorbo?

  No, thank God.

• 22:55Hannah Berner?

  You're my vice, and you're like, can you please stop FaceTiming me?

• 23:00Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, because now, sometimes you FaceTime me and I feel like your mom. I'm like, are you okay? First, tell me what's going on.

• 23:09Hannah Berner?

  What did you do?

• 23:10Paige DeSorbo?

  Like, you know when your mom gets, your mom has that voice, like, you answer the phone, she, like, immediately knows, like, either something's going on with you that you're sad, or like, you did something.

• 23:19Hannah Berner?

  You're like, what is in your mouth?

• 23:21Paige DeSorbo?

  What hap-

• 23:21Hannah Berner?

  Yeah. Give me, give me what's in your mouth. Let it out.

• 23:24Paige DeSorbo?

  Spit it out. Spit it out. That is like how I feel like I have to talk to you sometimes. I'm like, what did you do? What did you do?

• 23:32Hannah Berner?

  Cause we're casually texting, DMing, um, all day, smoke-

• 23:36Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 23:37Hannah Berner?

  Smoke signal all day. So then when I do the FaceTime, it's always something.

• 23:41Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, first of all, my invisible ink texts have gone rampant.

• 23:45Hannah Berner?

  I still don't know how to send invisible text.

• 23:46Paige DeSorbo?

  People don't talk about, if you're talking to a friend, like, what your usual medium is to talk, and then they FaceTime you, you're like, oh.

• 23:54Hannah Berner?

  This is serious. But also, I don't do it for work. Like, I've never FaceTimed you over work stuff.

• 23:59Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 23:59Hannah Berner?

  Or like a group text. I think good grace.

• 24:02Paige DeSorbo?

  Like when it's less-

• 24:03Hannah Berner?

  That goes through grace.

• 24:05Paige DeSorbo?

  I think you snapchatted me a couple of months ago. It's actually crazy in the year 2026. Like, okay, we could say that we've been addicted to our phones for how many years?

• 24:16Hannah Berner?

  Sorry, I was on my phone. What'd you say?

• 24:18Paige DeSorbo?

  Like, when do you think your addiction really start? 10 years ago?

• 24:21Hannah Berner?

  I wasn't addicted in college. I know that because my BlackBerry broke and I was like, who cares? Like, I literally was like, whatever. And I got addicted, well, I remember in like 2015, seeing that like people started to make crazy money. That's when I started my Forks and Fitness account.

• 24:36Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, right. We can't forget.

• 24:38Hannah Berner?

  And I knew that you can use social media to like build businesses. And then when I started working, when I started working for Betches in like 2017, I was private. Like, I would just want to be a video producer.

• 24:50Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, no way.

• 24:51Hannah Berner?

  Yeah. So when I was working for them, I had like no followers and I was just creating on their stuff.

• 24:56Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 24:56Hannah Berner?

  And then I started like writing jokes.

• 25:00Paige DeSorbo?

  So I feel like I've had like a full, I would say, yeah, probably around the same time, like 20, whenever I start like graduated college and then started like working. So like 2015, 2016.

• 25:11Hannah Berner?

  The world went bad. There's this new thing called dumb phones, which is fun, where it's basically like flip phones that people can use. People are trying to solve it. They're like, can I have a phone with no social media? But then it's like, if you have access to the internet, then you're social, like, no one's gone the right way. Or phones that are just text and calling, but then it's like you need GPS, you might need your email.

• 25:33Paige DeSorbo?

  I kind of feel like we should do it like once a month for a week. Like legitimately not go on any social media, except for like Pinterest.

• 25:41Hannah Berner?

  When like things are in a certain situation, I just get off my phone for two weeks.

• 25:45Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 25:46Hannah Berner?

  I highly recommend it. It's literally like getting off a drug where like the first four hours are difficult. You're like grabbing the phone, you're going for it.

• 25:55Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, it's just like a Habit, like a sensation, like a fixation, oral fixation.

• 26:01Hannah Berner?

  It's like wanting to get a cigarette, but you can't.

• 26:03Paige DeSorbo?

  Yes, yes.

• 26:03Hannah Berner?

  And then you get pissed that a little bit and then you realize, I'm gonna have a husband.

• 26:07Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 26:08Hannah Berner?

  I used to talking to him and then you think, start thinking of plans.

• 26:12Paige DeSorbo?

  Mm-hmm.

• 26:12Hannah Berner?

  You're like, maybe I should call someone, like literally what you were saying.

• 26:16Paige DeSorbo?

  Maybe I should do something fun. Like I was like, what other hobbies can I do?

• 26:20Hannah Berner?

  Cause also the algorithm, I don't care how well you curate it, you're always gonna see something that like, as sensitive girls.

• 26:29Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 26:30Hannah Berner?

  It makes you feel something you shouldn't feel in that moment.

• 26:33Paige DeSorbo?

  Right.

• 26:33Hannah Berner?

  Whether it's like grief or something, or anger.

• 26:36Paige DeSorbo?

  Mm-hmm.

• 26:36Hannah Berner?

  It's like, can we just keep the cortisol levels?

• 26:39Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm not cortisol speaking.

• 26:40Hannah Berner?

  Can you tell them the story?

• 26:42Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, you know that like crazy guy that does like the looks maxing and he's like 20 years old and he like takes meth?

• 26:49Hannah Berner?

  Glamazon or something?

• 26:50Paige DeSorbo?

  No, like literally, um.

• 26:52Hannah Berner?

  He was like, it's gay to like be attracted to women. That's what he said. Also, he's like not good looking still.

• 26:59Paige DeSorbo?

  His name is, um.

• 27:01Hannah Berner?

  Little twerp.

• 27:02Paige DeSorbo?

  I wanna say clavicle, but it's not, it's not clavicle, but it's like that, clavicular.

• 27:08Hannah Berner?

  Clavicular, okay.

• 27:09Paige DeSorbo?

  Which I don't even know, whatever. He got arrested, what did he got arrested for? He got arrested for like, basically, what is it called when you like incite violence? Like he made these two girls like basically fight, I think. So I think he did get arrested and like possibly going to jail. But I don't even, I just like saw that clip, but I saw a video and he's like a streamer, which I still.

• 27:32Hannah Berner?

  I don't understand.

• 27:32Paige DeSorbo?

  I don't know what a streamer is. I do not get it. Like I don't understand at all.

• 27:37Hannah Berner?

  I know that men watch other men play video games sometimes.

• 27:40Paige DeSorbo?

  Which I think is.

• 27:42Hannah Berner?

  Whatever.

• 27:43Paige DeSorbo?

  You know what?

• 27:43Hannah Berner?

  Whatever gets you through the day.

• 27:44Paige DeSorbo?

  Put the guns down.

• 27:46Hannah Berner?

  Put the guns away.

• 27:46Paige DeSorbo?

  And watch whatever you guys want.

• 27:47Hannah Berner?

  Watch someone play Super Mario Kart.

• 27:48Paige DeSorbo?

  I still don't understand what a streamer is and where you watch streamers. Like I don't get what it, I don't get it.

• 27:56Hannah Berner?

  I think it's on Yahoo.

• 27:57Paige DeSorbo?

  But whatever, he's like streaming and he's like fighting with some girl. I don't know if it's his girlfriend or not, but he says to her.

• 28:07Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm not cortisol spiking. And right when I heard it, I was like, that's my new brain rot.

• 28:13Hannah Berner?

  Wait, next time I FaceTime you, can you answer like that?

• 28:15Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm not cortisol spiking right now, so I don't know what you have to say to me, but I refuse to do it.

• 28:21Hannah Berner?

  I don't want to hear it.

• 28:22Paige DeSorbo?

  Here's one thing, another thing I will say. I had a woman who I like work with, reach out to me the other day and say-

• 28:30Hannah Berner?

  How dare she? A woman who knows me.

• 28:32Paige DeSorbo?

  I said, oh my god, what could you want from me? No, because I believe just because you can contact me, doesn't mean I have to contact you back. And I fully implement that. But she reached out to me and she was like, I just want to let you know, I listened to Giggly Squad and I was deciding between like going to a new job and like, and I heard you say how much you like bet on yourself when you guys were on tour and like the different decisions that you had to make. And I just want to let you know, I ended up deciding to like go on a new path and like take a new job and like bet on myself. And I was like, oh, I forget people listen to us. I go, oh, that?

• 29:10Hannah Berner?

  No, that was really inspirational.

• 29:12Paige DeSorbo?

  It felt like that was so nice and so-

• 29:14Hannah Berner?

  And also, we don't want everyone to quit their jobs. It's just like if you already are teetering-

• 29:18Paige DeSorbo?

  No, no, no. It wasn't that. It was like if you have a big decision, whether it's like job or relationship or anything and you're like, what should I do? Like I, I just always think like the universe will reward you, not for picking the harder thing, but picking the thing that's most you.

• 29:35Hannah Berner?

  Even if it's scary. You guys, the universe does reward you and sometimes if you're in pain and you're going through something hard, that means something good's happening after.

• 29:43Paige DeSorbo?

  And I was very much in a situation where I was like, I knew I didn't want to stay on reality TV for so many reasons, but I was also so scared to not be on it. But I was just like, ooh.

• 29:54Hannah Berner?

  Also, as I said before, 75% of statistics are wrong, but 44% of women are in the workforce to men. And only like around 33% have leadership roles. And that's why a lot of women are starting their own companies because the patriarchy is still alive and well in the workforce. And sometimes you're like, I cannot watch these guys who are mediocre keep getting promoted, um, ahead of me. And I'm just going to do my own shit because I'm, I'm sick of being taken advantage of. So go into corporate, learn everything you have to learn and- We support you.

• 30:28Paige DeSorbo?

  You know, another reason that I bet that older men are like starting to date like even younger women today is because women are like making more money than them and so they can really only go after like 25 year olds.

• 30:39Hannah Berner?

  It does remind me of all those TikToks of girls who were like corporate so funny because I walk in and I'm just like working with someone's dad. I'm like Edward, Edward, did you forward the chart?

• 30:51Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, I forget that like there are people's dads that I like have on money emails with.

• 30:58Hannah Berner?

  That I'm like do better.

• 31:01Hannah Berner?

  Um, I have a current vocal stem.

• 31:04Paige DeSorbo?

  Yes.

• 31:04Hannah Berner?

  Have you seen the Kendall Tool video of Peloton where she's like, get him banned?

• 31:10Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 31:11Hannah Berner?

  Woo, get him banned. We don't do that here. We don't tolerate that disrespect. Woo, get him banned.

• 31:16Paige DeSorbo?

  I knew you would love that one.

• 31:17Hannah Berner?

  I can't stop.

• 31:19Paige DeSorbo?

  See, I have to scroll.

• 31:20Hannah Berner?

  I can't stop.

• 31:21Paige DeSorbo?

  It's too much because I immediately feel like I'm in. Did you ever go through that New York City like?

• 31:26Hannah Berner?

  SoulCycle?

• 31:27Paige DeSorbo?

  Just, it was SoulCycle, Flywheel. And then what was the other one? There was another one. No, I feel like there was like another one that was like trendy that like went out of business.

• 31:38Hannah Berner?

  This is my thing. I've been so physically and mentally abused during collegiate athletics that like I never wanted to be yelled at by someone. Also, I don't have no rhythm, but like when you go to a SoulCycle class and you see the girls in the front with their like bouncy shit, I was like, that's an art form that like I'm not even gonna try to tackle. That looks like it would take years to do.

• 31:58Paige DeSorbo?

  I went to like three Flywheel classes because like the guy I was dating at the time was like, you should go. You would like it. I was like, I love it.

• 32:06Hannah Berner?

  I love all the different versions of Paige in your twenties.

• 32:10Paige DeSorbo?

  She was a one woman show, okay?

• 32:12Hannah Berner?

  She was versatile.

• 32:14Paige DeSorbo?

  Sorry that I had range, okay? You could plop me anywhere with anyone and I could talk to them and I had a great time.

• 32:26Hannah Berner?

  I do have some single friends though that like. They're doing their range, like they're deciding like, oh, I'm gonna date like a crocodile hunter, like whatever. But some of them are, because I'm married and bored.

• 32:38Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 32:39Hannah Berner?

  I'm like, I trust her and like she's living life and she's bringing the stories. Like you need a friend in your group who's like in that time of her life.

• 32:47Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, I'm just like such a big proponent of, and I felt it and I never felt bad about saying it. And I feel like I had like boyfriends be like, it's a really mean thing to say. Like I knew when I would break up with whoever, I wasn't done going out. And I'd be like, sorry, I'm not done being for the streets. Like I'm not done going out.

• 33:09Hannah Berner?

  You're trying on different shoes.

• 33:10Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, like I don't want you to ask me like where I am every single night and keep tabs on me. Like I.

• 33:17Hannah Berner?

  When a shoe doesn't fit, you keep, you keep going through the aisle.

• 33:20Paige DeSorbo?

  When I was like 27, 28, if you had proposed to me and I, and I had gotten married.

• 33:25Hannah Berner?

  You're talking about me?

• 33:25Paige DeSorbo?

  No, just saying like in the ethos.

• 33:27Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 33:28Paige DeSorbo?

  I would have, I would have been divorced.

• 33:30Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 33:31Paige DeSorbo?

  Making no situation when I, because I would have seen other girls out and I would have been like,

• 33:37Paige DeSorbo?

  okay, now that all the non-gigglers are gone, we'll tell you the real.

• 33:45Paige DeSorbo?

  Because you knew they were in there. You knew.

• 33:47Hannah Berner?

  They're like, this is stupid. They're not saying anything. Okay, this is what's going on.

• 33:52Paige DeSorbo?

  Did you have anything else on your docket?

• 33:53Hannah Berner?

  Well, worse news. Pickleball has been added to the Olympics for 2028.

• 33:57Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, was the Kit Kat thing fake or real? Was it an April Fool's joke, Hannah?

• 34:01Hannah Berner?

  Oh my God, don't point at me.

• 34:02Paige DeSorbo?

  Sorry.

• 34:02Hannah Berner?

  I don't know.

• 34:03Paige DeSorbo?

  How pissed are you about pickleball, though?

• 34:05Hannah Berner?

  Look.

• 34:06Paige DeSorbo?

  Do you feel like it's coming for your art?

• 34:08Hannah Berner?

  I support women in the arts.

• 34:11Paige DeSorbo?

  Totally.

• 34:12Hannah Berner?

  I personally haven't played it because I'm afraid I'll get addicted. And then the tennis community will be mad at me. It's just interesting. It's just, I don't have any, honestly, I don't have an opinion.

• 34:22Paige DeSorbo?

  Difference between pickleball and paddle?

• 34:25Hannah Berner?

  Paddle's more respected. It's European.

• 34:27Paige DeSorbo?

  Got it.

• 34:28Hannah Berner?

  It's something American. Great question. It should be. It's really, I, all the tennis players like paddle.

• 34:35Paige DeSorbo?

  Pickleball is gonna be in the next Summer Olympics.

• 34:38Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, but like they've had breakdancing. Like it's not even like a big, like you could have anything in the Olympics if they have like a good marketing team.

• 34:44Paige DeSorbo?

  Really?

• 34:45Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, you could have fucking kitten heel walking.

• 34:50Hannah Berner?

  I'm talking about you.

• 34:54Hannah Berner?

  Which I'm not gonna make the team.

• 34:55Paige DeSorbo?

  Why is that just a great saying kitten heel walking? Sorry, I'm doing my kitten heel walking.

• 35:00Hannah Berner?

  Because people know how difficult it is.

• 35:02Paige DeSorbo?

  It's like, you have to go through a committee, you have to like, present why your sport should be in the Olympics. Why, like, I would think that there's like,

• 35:10Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, and I think-

• 35:10Paige DeSorbo?

  You have to like, give the head of a pig to the person who invented the Olympics. Like, I don't know, I'm thinking there's like a whole rigmarole situation.

• 35:17Hannah Berner?

  Drag should be in the Olympics.

• 35:18Paige DeSorbo?

  A hundred percent.

• 35:20Hannah Berner?

  Lip sync drag should be in the Olympics. Let's go, Rue.

• 35:23Paige DeSorbo?

  Now we're talking.

• 35:24Hannah Berner?

  Put it on the docket. Put it on the docket.

• 35:27Paige DeSorbo?

  No, but the breakdancing thing was, we don't talk about it, and we, we skipped, we moved on so quickly.

• 35:34Hannah Berner?

  I mean, I made my whole identity for like, six months.

• 35:37Paige DeSorbo?

  Like, really, when you break it down, someone like, broke into the Olympi- it was a heist.

• 35:43Hannah Berner?

  When you break it down, no pun intended.

• 35:45Paige DeSorbo?

  And she couldn't, she could not break it down. That was crazy.

• 35:49Hannah Berner?

  Every now and then, I check her Instagram.

• 35:51Paige DeSorbo?

  And what is she doing?

• 35:53Hannah Berner?

  I don't know, I think she was kind-

• 35:54Paige DeSorbo?

  You really connected with her.

• 35:55Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, I think she's still fighting the good fight. She's like, people misunderstood me. She was like, you don't-

• 36:02Paige DeSorbo?

  You don't understand.

• 36:03Hannah Berner?

  It was edited.

• 36:05Paige DeSorbo?

  I got a bad edit.

• 36:07Hannah Berner?

  People are really mad at Talenti.

• 36:10Paige DeSorbo?

  For?

• 36:11Hannah Berner?

  I love how worked up you just got, because they came for your Italian heritage.

• 36:15Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, what are they mad at them for?

• 36:16Hannah Berner?

  It's like impossible to open up a Talenti.

• 36:19Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh wow. Now you have my, now you have my ears?

• 36:25Hannah Berner?

  So like, the way, it is a cool, what's it called? Container.

• 36:30Paige DeSorbo?

  Pint?

• 36:30Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, it's a cool container pint, but like, to open it, like, when it's in the freezer, it gets like impossible, so there's always videos of people taking like, nail guns and like knives and-

• 36:40Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 36:40Hannah Berner?

  And doing all these crazy things to open it, but then part of me is like, maybe it's good, because you know, no one ever needs ice cream. No one's ever been like, if I don't get this ice cream right now, I'm gonna die.

• 36:50Paige DeSorbo?

  We have a lot of pregnant listeners, so Santento's down on that. And I've never been pregnant and I, there have been times where I'm like, if I don't get the pistachio, not the mint, I know they're both green, use your eyes. Like if you've ever tried to order, no, I'm actually getting pissed. If you've ever tried to order a pint of ice cream on Instacart or like Uber Eats or whatever your medium is, and you get a man and he just gets because it's green. I'm like, if you get, if you get me mint, I will riot. Mint is disgusting. Mint with chocolate is so vile to me.

• 37:29Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, yeah. I like minty though. No, but what I'm saying is there are those moments where like, I could see you like trying to open the Talenti and be like,

• 37:36Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I like put it under hot water.

• 37:37Hannah Berner?

  I'd be like, do I, wait, do I actually need this right now? Or is this just an impulse? Is it 3 a.m.?

• 37:43Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 37:44Hannah Berner?

  I'm also a savory girl, like,

• 37:46Paige DeSorbo?

  You are, you're not like,

• 37:47Hannah Berner?

  I want a cheeseburger. I want,

• 37:49Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 37:50Hannah Berner?

  a Penneola vodka.

• 37:51Paige DeSorbo?

  Like, I'll wake up in the morning and be like, it's a great day to have cheesecake later.

• 37:55Hannah Berner?

  Dez told me that he used to wake up at like 6 a.m. and go to his freezer and eat like a layer of the ice cream. But it's so his parents couldn't tell, so he would like delicately eat a thin layer of it and do it every day.

• 38:09Paige DeSorbo?

  One time when I was little, I stole like a thing of frosting and I just like kept it in my bedroom. Because like frosting doesn't go bad. And one day my mom was like, why do you have this? And I was like, I don't know.

• 38:21Hannah Berner?

  It's true frosting, frosting, I guess it doesn't go bad.

• 38:24Paige DeSorbo?

  It doesn't.

• 38:25Hannah Berner?

  I had a friend whose mom like never let her have candy, so I went in her bed one day and she was like, look at this. And under her bed, she had like tons of candy and I was like, just come to my house, my mom, let's just have candy, whatever we want.

• 38:34Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I was saying, we were like, well, I don't know if we knew.

• 38:37Hannah Berner?

  Italian households, they love a cup of chocolate when you walk in.

• 38:40Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, like,

• 38:41Hannah Berner?

  Do you want a Ferrero Rocher? You don't like Ferrero Rocher?

• 38:47Paige DeSorbo?

  Thinking about hosting, like now I get why my mom was so crazy when we were younger. Like, I could sit in the living room and hear like, oh, someone's coming over and she'd be like, we don't have a cake.

• 39:01Hannah Berner?

  Where's the seven-layer dip?

• 39:02Paige DeSorbo?

  Like, what do we have? And my parents keep a frozen cheesecake in the freezer, in the garage, in case someone comes over.

• 39:12Hannah Berner?

  She's like, bring out the fondue. The fondue mountain.

• 39:18Paige DeSorbo?

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• 40:45Paige DeSorbo?

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• 41:30Paige DeSorbo?

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• 41:54Hannah Berner?

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• 42:37Hannah Berner?

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• 43:33Paige DeSorbo?

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• 44:00Hannah Berner?

  I think you're gonna be the hostess with the most.

• 44:02Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I'm very excited. I'll definitely put some pics in the newsletter because I'm really working on my table scape and I hope that my mom is proud of me.

• 44:09Hannah Berner?

  I know. And I've seen all of the packages.

• 44:12Paige DeSorbo?

  And like it's early, like my brunch starts at 10.

• 44:15Hannah Berner?

  I know. Do you want my help? Or do you think I'm gonna be actually distracting?

• 44:19Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, just.

• 44:21Hannah Berner?

  See, that's what I tell people. When they, that's what I tell people. They're like, why don't you help? And I go.

• 44:25Paige DeSorbo?

  You'll come over. You'll see my mom and you'll be like,

• 44:30Paige DeSorbo?

  we haven't talked. Let's get into it.

• 44:32Hannah Berner?

  Kimberly. Oh, Kimberly, I'm so excited to see her.

• 44:36Paige DeSorbo?

  I just can't believe we, you watch me get dressed on FaceTime.

• 44:40Hannah Berner?

  Who were better? The funniest thing is we both have perfect vision. This is insane of us.

• 44:49Paige DeSorbo?

  Now I feel stupid. Now I feel dumb. Hey, now I really feel dumb.

• 44:56Hannah Berner?

  For the, um, we don't do that here. Bam, we don't do that here. I wanted to say when other people make fun of Paige not being able to read. Like, that'll piss me off. I'm like, okay, she's actually really, like, you know, many times I've done, like, actually, she's actually really fucking smart. Actually, she's fucking, she's smarter than me. She's a genius. And everyone's like, but you make fun of her saying she can't read every single episode. I go, cuz she's a genius.

• 45:18Paige DeSorbo?

  Get in on the joke.

• 45:21Paige DeSorbo?

  Like, we're being sarcastic.

• 45:23Hannah Berner?

  Do you ever get a phone call in the morning and you have to answer, but you try to pretend like you're not asleep?

• 45:29Paige DeSorbo?

  All the time.

• 45:29Hannah Berner?

  Like you didn't just wake up? What's your, what's your strategy?

• 45:40Paige DeSorbo?

  Red leather, yellow leather, red leather, yellow leather.

• 45:43Hannah Berner?

  All the time, people are like, you just wake up?

• 45:45Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 45:45Hannah Berner?

  And I go, no, I'm sick.

• 45:48Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, that's a good one. Sometimes I'll give like, oh, Kitty, like, was up all night.

• 45:56Paige DeSorbo?

  Kitty looks over like, the fuck I was? You know, I've been sleeping for 20 hours.

• 46:02Hannah Berner?

  I'll be like, sorry, I've been just writing.

• 46:04Paige DeSorbo?

  No.

• 46:06Paige DeSorbo?

  But we are creatives.

• 46:08Hannah Berner?

  Yes.

• 46:09Paige DeSorbo?

  So we do stay up a little bit later because we don't have a traditional boss, as they say.

• 46:15Hannah Berner?

  Not to call you out, you were quite productive this morning, though, over text.

• 46:19Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, I was mad about something.

• 46:21Hannah Berner?

  I literally separately texted Grace and was like, is Paige like, okay? And she's like-

• 46:26Paige DeSorbo?

  If you piss me off, I'll be at the gym at 8 a.m.

• 46:29Paige DeSorbo?

  When I'm mad, things are getting done. I'm turning into my mom.

• 46:38Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, I actually just had a mo- I'm gonna start crying.

• 46:43Paige DeSorbo?

  Not like actually, but like, you know, when you're younger and like your mom's pissed off about something and you're like, fuck. Like she could pick up any, like there's, anything could happen and she's gonna go off. Whenever my mom would get mad, I feel like she would like come in my room and like, and this, and this is just all over the place. And you're like, okay, like that's, it's been all over the place, but that's me. Like if something pisses me off and I can't like take it out on that, that's really bad. I should talk about it in therapy.

• 47:13Hannah Berner?

  Look at us, look at us realizing things. That was really healthy.

• 47:17Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, because I'll wake up and be like, and guess what else isn't working? The TV. So figure it out. Like, anything could set me off.

• 47:25Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, that's like when you're pouring your coffee and like a little milk spills and your day's been going bad already and you're like, are you serious?

• 47:33Paige DeSorbo?

  Can I get a day?

• 47:34Hannah Berner?

  Um, speaking of, woman of STEM of the week.

• 47:37Paige DeSorbo?

  My god.

• 47:39Hannah Berner?

  Um, her name is at E Money on the Track. Shout out, she follows me. That was pretty cool. Um, she, why do I feel like a, uh,

• 47:48Paige DeSorbo?

  A DJ.

• 47:49Hannah Berner?

  A radio DJ. Shout out.

• 47:51Paige DeSorbo?

  From like the 90s?

• 47:52Hannah Berner?

  E Money on the Track, shout out. Um, she's doing, do you know what a crow pose is? Okay, if you're a yogi, a crow pose is a hard crow, a hard pose.

• 48:01Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay.

• 48:01Hannah Berner?

  And she's doing a side crow pose, which you can only imagine.

• 48:05Paige DeSorbo?

  I actually can't. I have no idea.

• 48:11Hannah Berner?

  It's double hard.

• 48:12Paige DeSorbo?

  I can go with you, like usually I can follow you, but this one I.

• 48:17Hannah Berner?

  She's doing like a side crow pose.

• 48:19Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 48:20Hannah Berner?

  And then her head is like floating.

• 48:22Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay.

• 48:22Hannah Berner?

  And then she's sipping Aperol Spritz.

• 48:24Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay.

• 48:25Hannah Berner?

  And I think that earned Woman of Stem of the Week.

• 48:29Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay.

• 48:29Hannah Berner?

  Cause like, you're doing yoga and you're getting drunk. Are girls still drinking Aperol Spritz? Like, do you think that's still a thing or is just?

• 48:36Paige DeSorbo?

  Yes.

• 48:37Hannah Berner?

  That's the difference between me and you.

• 48:38Paige DeSorbo?

  What do you mean?

• 48:39Hannah Berner?

  Don't play innocent.

• 48:40Paige DeSorbo?

  I don't like Aperol Spritz.

• 48:41Hannah Berner?

  Okay, because I was gonna say aesthetic girls love Aperol Spritz because of the flat lay. Cause the color is so nice.

• 48:49Paige DeSorbo?

  I think it tastes like Robitussin.

• 48:50Hannah Berner?

  It does, but it looks so hydrant. It looks like Gatorade Zero.

• 48:54Paige DeSorbo?

  And I try it every summer.

• 48:56Hannah Berner?

  Every four months, I forget.

• 48:58Paige DeSorbo?

  That like I love Aperol Spritzes.

• 49:00Hannah Berner?

  I want to be a girl who likes Aperol Spritz, but here we are.

• 49:04Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I wanna be a girl that can like get drunk and not.

• 49:08Hannah Berner?

  Get hungover?

• 49:09Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I, it's not even that. I would take the hungover. I don't even get to the point of like being drunk and having fun.

• 49:15Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 49:15Paige DeSorbo?

  Like I'm already like, I'm like, sorry, I have to go, I have to throw up. Like, I can't do that.

• 49:22Hannah Berner?

  Shout out to another girl who got Woman of Stem of the Week. What's it called when you didn't win, but you got runner, yeah, she got runner up? Um, she posted a video, her name's MG. She's like when you're about to get proposed to but you don't know and you're not getting out at the pool. And it's her friend filming her where like you know when you get in the pool and you're like this is what I'm doing for the next eight hours? And she's like doing mermaids, she's doing handstands.

• 49:45Paige DeSorbo?

  She's having a day.

• 49:46Hannah Berner?

  She's having a day, she's flopping around and everyone's like, when is she gonna get out of the pool? Like he's trying to propose to her? And I feel like that is girlhood and that makes me so happy.

• 49:53Paige DeSorbo?

  That's so you.

• 49:54Hannah Berner?

  That's so me. If I'm like asleep and like Dez woke me up to propose to me, I was like, can I get like an hour more sleep? And then we could do this.

• 50:02Paige DeSorbo?

  If and when I get engaged, I feel like it's gonna be really hard to surprise me.

• 50:08Hannah Berner?

  Even if you did it successfully, you still would smell it off him.

• 50:12Paige DeSorbo?

  A hundred percent. And here's the other thing, I'm asking my mom and my mom's telling me.

• 50:15Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 50:16Paige DeSorbo?

  Like if I have a vibe and I say, "Mom, do you know anything about this?", she's telling me.

• 50:21Hannah Berner?

  Can I also say something controversial?

• 50:22Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 50:23Hannah Berner?

  If your guy does surprise you.

• 50:25Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 50:25Hannah Berner?

  That means he's a liar and a cheater.

• 50:29Paige DeSorbo?

  It's not a good sign.

• 50:30Hannah Berner?

  If he's that good at hiding something from you, I don't wanna marry you.

• 50:33Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, also-

• 50:34Hannah Berner?

  I want it clunky.

• 50:35Paige DeSorbo?

  I do think it's a red flag if you're getting engaged to someone and no one knows. Like, he's doing it and he hasn't told any of your frie- he hasn't told any of your friends. He hasn't asked your da- I mean, not everyone does the like, "Ask your dad" thing, but did Dez do the "Ask your dad" thing?

• 50:54Hannah Berner?

  Well, that was actually a really funny story. I was in the bathroom, as I always am.

• 50:58Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 50:58Hannah Berner?

  With the door open.

• 51:00Paige DeSorbo?

  Mm-hmm.

• 51:00Hannah Berner?

  It's right next to the garage and Dez was in the garage with my dad and they're speaking very loud. And of course I can overhear them and he basically was like, "Hey, can I like, marry your daughter?"

• 51:11Paige DeSorbo?

  You never told me that, so you heard him ask?

• 51:14Hannah Berner?

  I've literally heard it and my heart sank. I was like, this is so annoying. And then of course my dad goes, "Yeah, she's your problem now." Making a joke, they're laughing and I'm like, "What the fuck?" And then my dad walks in, tells my mom. So even if I hadn't heard that, I then hear him telling my mom. Like my, my New York family's so fucking loud.

• 51:31Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, my god.

• 51:33Hannah Berner?

  Then I get out of the bathroom, I'm like, "Hey, I heard everything."

• 51:36Paige DeSorbo?

  So how quickly from then to when he did it?

• 51:39Hannah Berner?

  Maybe like one or two months. But the, a funny thing that happened is we were in West Hampton and he kept being like, "I need to go to the city." And I felt like it was for a reason.

• 51:49Paige DeSorbo?

  Mm-hmm.

• 51:50Hannah Berner?

  For the thing. And we had to go to the city and we were fostering like, really shy pit bulls, like pit bulls that needed help.

• 51:57Paige DeSorbo?

  Mm-hmm.

• 51:57Hannah Berner?

  And he opens the door to go to the city and this pit bull- Runs out.

• 52:03Paige DeSorbo?

  Like after him?

• 52:04Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, and but we basically are like chasing up a huge pit bull around West Hampton.

• 52:09Paige DeSorbo?

  This is my nightmare.

• 52:10Hannah Berner?

  And it it ends up taking like two hours and Dez is like normally pretty calm in these situations and he he's I could tell he's like freaking out and I'm like, we're gonna get the dog. It's fine. Like, there's nowhere for the dog to go. Like, we're on an island. Like, we're gonna and we get the dog. And I found out later, he had an appointment to get the ring. So he was like freaking out and I'm here just laughing because the dog, like, we just tried to get the dog and it keeps running away from us. And I think it's so funny. And he's like, not the time!

• 52:36Paige DeSorbo?

  I really think my dad's gonna be like, no.

• 52:42Hannah Berner?

  My dad was like, are you ready to get a twitch?

• 52:44Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I think my dad's gonna be like, ah, let me ask my wife and we'll get, we'll let you know. I know for a fact that he's gonna be like, yeah, I don't like this at all.

• 52:54Hannah Berner?

  He's gonna be like, what'd you say to me?

• 52:55Paige DeSorbo?

  You wanna know what? I don't think he's been nervous for it because anyone I date, my dad's like, she's just playing. Like, she's just having fun. Like, he doesn't take anything seriously.

• 53:08Hannah Berner?

  Anyone you dated in the past hasn't had like a moment to even like talk to your dad like that. He's, he's watching the news in the other room.

• 53:14Paige DeSorbo?

  My dad's not making, he's not available.

• 53:16Hannah Berner?

  Also, they have to go through me first.

• 53:18Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 53:19Hannah Berner?

  There's like a lot of steps before you get to your dad.

• 53:22Paige DeSorbo?

  Totally. How did we even get on that?

• 53:24Hannah Berner?

  You have to fight me first. You have to get in a physical altercation with me.

• 53:26Paige DeSorbo?

  I wish I could bring something up from like TikTok or like anything that I saw this week, but I've been.

• 53:32Hannah Berner?

  What happened? I deleted all my apps.

• 53:34Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 53:35Hannah Berner?

  But then I messaged our gen, our gen alpha Z correspondent, my cousin Andrea, and I said, hey, what's going on on TikTok? She gets me on a voice note with her friend and they're trying to explain to me about Olivia Rodrigo.

• 53:51Paige DeSorbo?

  She came out with a new album.

• 53:52Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, but how she was in the same party as Taylor Swift when they famously have beef.

• 53:58Paige DeSorbo?

  Was at the same party, yeah, yeah.

• 54:00Hannah Berner?

  Paul McCartney's party. And you know who was also there? John Mayer, who Taylor Swift has wrote a lot of stuff about. And they were. So that was from Andrea. I was like, what do I say to the gigglers? And they left me like a long thing. So thank you Andrea for that tea. But she doesn't know what it means.

• 54:17Hannah Berner?

  At the end of the day, Paul McCartney is like an icon. I think they all want to be their support. He was like a listening part. I don't know. What, what people do at parties?

• 54:25Paige DeSorbo?

  I don't know.

• 54:26Hannah Berner?

  The fact that people in Hollywood who are so rich and famous still want to go to parties. I'm like, when does it end?

• 54:31Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, you know, that's actually something that's very interesting because I feel like the like socializing scene in LA, New York and Miami is so completely different. I don't like any of it. I'm probably not going to any of them.

• 54:44Hannah Berner?

  So they're similar.

• 54:45Paige DeSorbo?

  But like New York is so, like you must go to dinner. Like you, what you're famished. You haven't eaten. I don't know why they're all the sudden British. And then it's like out and then it's someone's apartment where like LA, I feel like they skip.

• 54:59Hannah Berner?

  Crazy house parties.

• 55:00Paige DeSorbo?

  You go to someone's house in the middle of nowhere where there's no cellphone service.

• 55:04Hannah Berner?

  And everyone's like, what do you do? Who are you represented by? Who do you know here?

• 55:10Paige DeSorbo?

  I've only gone to like a couple of parties in LA before. One, I did almost get abducted.

• 55:15Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 55:16Paige DeSorbo?

  Slash murdered.

• 55:17Hannah Berner?

  Another one, me and you spoke to nobody and we're just in the corner.

• 55:19Paige DeSorbo?

  What one was that?

• 55:20Hannah Berner?

  The one, the dark one. It was like a bar.

• 55:23Paige DeSorbo?

  Yes. We got french fries. Anyway.

• 55:27Paige DeSorbo?

  I digress.

• 55:28Hannah Berner?

  Okay. Now that all the non-gigglers are like for sure gone because they thought they were before, but now they are. I just want to let you guys know.

• 55:34Paige DeSorbo?

  Hannah's never told a lie. Name one time that Hannah's lied.

• 55:38Hannah Berner?

  I do have to say, I want us to like actually learn from the situation.

• 55:42Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 55:42Hannah Berner?

  As a whole. When you feel wronged by someone or things didn't go well, do not try to get revenge. Do not try to hurt them. Do not think about them in negative ways.

• 55:56Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 55:57Hannah Berner?

  Literally say thank you. And focus on yourself, because the more you attach to the old energy, what they put at you, they're putting at other people, they're putting towards themselves.

• 56:07Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 56:07Hannah Berner?

  Remove yourself from the situation and their stuff is gonna be handled.

• 56:12Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 56:13Hannah Berner?

  Leave that to God.

• 56:14Paige DeSorbo?

  Mm-hmm.

• 56:15Hannah Berner?

  Leave that to whatever you believe in.

• 56:18Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 56:18Hannah Berner?

  Focus on yourself, keep your hands clean, go to sleep at peace.

• 56:22Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 56:23Hannah Berner?

  And I focus on myself.

• 56:24Paige DeSorbo?

  Mm-hmm.

• 56:25Hannah Berner?

  And I try to stay out of drama. Occasionally drama comes to me and I hear about it.

• 56:28Paige DeSorbo?

  It finds us.

• 56:29Hannah Berner?

  It finds us. And that's

• 56:31Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 56:31Hannah Berner?

  Women in the arts.

• 56:32Paige DeSorbo?

  Unless you're a man, then I'm coming for you. Don't rest. If you've ever dated me, don't rest. That speech was for girls. Don't rest.

• 56:42Hannah Berner?

  Okay, that's all the time we have for today. Thanks for giggling. Bye.