Giggling about gold diggers, mean girls, and nudes

Paige shares a life changing dating hack and Hannah discusses mean girl handwriting.

Speaker names marked ? are inferred from speaking time and the show’s known hosts — they are not voice-verified.

• 0:00Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, remember when I told you how excited I was about Lululemon dropping their fall collection on September 8? Well, the collection is finally here and I just got my hands on a few pieces and let's just say these will be in my rotation on repeat. I got the Groove Yoga Bra and the High Rise Matching Short. They're so buttery soft. They have laser cut pocket openings for optional and removable cups, which I love that because sometimes I don't want to have a bra insert when I'm working out, but sometimes I do. Performance never compromises style at Lululemon. I love their vintage-inspired styles and everything comes in such an assortment of colors. So if you don't want to stick to black, which is my traditional go-to, you can explore other colors. Like, I love a burgundy workout set. New styles from Lululemon's fall collection are here.

• 0:45Paige DeSorbo?

  Popular colors go fast, so be on the lookout for those drops. And if something doesn't work out for you, free returns always. That's lululemon.com, lululemon.com.

• 0:55Hannah Berner?

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• 1:38Hannah Berner?

  I was thinking about how women have so many little things we have to do when we're getting home that you have to be aware of.

• 1:45Paige DeSorbo?

  Like, so many people have my location.

• 1:47Hannah Berner?

  And you have to share your ETA, you have to check the route, you have to text everyone I'm home.

• 1:51Paige DeSorbo?

  And if your friend, like, doesn't text you, "Oh, you got home," you're calling the FBI.

• 1:55Hannah Berner?

  Yep. Yep. And we joke about it because it's so normal to us, but you're constantly paying attention. And even when you're exhausted and just want to get home, your brain still has to be on. You're like, is this guy going the right route? Am I in the right place? Who's around me? What's happening?

• 2:09Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, there's truly no clocking out of your safety.

• 2:12Hannah Berner?

  And that's why riding in a Waymo feels different. It's an autonomous ride with an empty driver's seat. So, once you get in, you have this private space that's actually just yours.

• 2:20Paige DeSorbo?

  And you know, I love alone time and I truly feel like it's such a luxury in a Waymo.

• 2:25Hannah Berner?

  Especially after being social. Like, I love everyone, but like...

• 2:28Paige DeSorbo?

  Please, nobody speak to me.

• 2:29Hannah Berner?

  Like, give me 20 minutes. I want music, the right temperature. There's no compromising. And you can customize the ride, put on your own music, answer texts you ignored all night, stare out the window. You actually have a minute where you're not thinking about everyone else.

• 2:43Paige DeSorbo?

  And that's the thing. It's not even necessarily about doing something. Sometimes it's just you want to sit there and not speak.

• 2:50Hannah Berner?

  And put your guard down for a second and feel safe.

• 2:53Paige DeSorbo?

  Which truly women deserve.

• 2:55Hannah Berner?

  We deserve to disassociate safely for 20 minutes.

• 2:58Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. I mean, put that on a t-shirt for real.

• 3:01Hannah Berner?

  And obviously, safety is a huge part of why that feeling matters. Knowing Waymo's safer, there's something refreshing in having that space where you can just be yourself and let Waymo handle the driving.

• 3:10Paige DeSorbo?

  And we spend enough of our lives being on.

• 3:13Hannah Berner?

  Exactly.

• 3:14Paige DeSorbo?

  We don't need to be on in the car.

• 3:16Hannah Berner?

  Getting around shouldn't require so much mental energy. And if this sounds like your ideal way to get around too, download the Waymo app and use code GIGLY to get 20% off your next two rides. You can check out the full terms in the app.

• 3:28Paige DeSorbo?

  We love a discount.

• 3:29Hannah Berner?

  And if Waymo isn't in your city yet, head to waymo.com/giggle to sign up and help bring Waymo to you.

• 3:47Paige DeSorbo?

  I mean, the day just got away from me.

• 3:50Hannah Berner?

  Hey, look, I've been traveling.

• 3:53Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 3:53Hannah Berner?

  All weekend. I've been in, in four different states.

• 3:56Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I actually felt really bad today because, look, I wanted to cancel and that's not like a crazy.

• 4:02Hannah Berner?

  Guys, I'm on a four hour flight trying to get back to recording the studio with Paige. And I'm like, I'm gonna do it for the gigglers. I'm getting there. We're getting in the studio. I get a text. Hey, you wanna do virtual? And I said, I didn't have five, four hours to get here on time. We're filming and I'm in my sunglasses and my glasses.

• 4:22Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, we're filming, it's nighttime and so like past a certain point in the day.

• 4:27Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 4:27Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm a baby. That's it. I'm done. And I'm on this new thing where like, I just wake up every day at 4:30 and then I'm up.

• 4:34Hannah Berner?

  Oh.

• 4:35Paige DeSorbo?

  Kitty's loving it because she's been eating at 6:00 AM. So she's pumped.

• 4:39Hannah Berner?

  I do have to say, 4:30 AM, that's too much day for me.

• 4:42Paige DeSorbo?

  No, it's way too much day. So today at four, I was like, I've done a day.

• 4:47Hannah Berner?

  Well, I landed.

• 4:48Paige DeSorbo?

  Mm hmm.

• 4:49Hannah Berner?

  Was like, bitch, get your ass to the studio. And then I was like, I was like, what did I, what did I miss over the weekend? Did anything happen?

• 4:56Paige DeSorbo?

  Mm hmm.

• 4:57Hannah Berner?

  Crazy stuff has went down.

• 4:59Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 4:59Hannah Berner?

  Did you hear 12 tons of Kit Kats were robbed in Europe? There was a Kit Kat robbery heist.

• 5:07Paige DeSorbo?

  Maybe Ben Kinderbueno sending out a hit.

• 5:10Hannah Berner?

  Wait, like 12, I don't know what a ton is, but it sounds like a lot.

• 5:13Paige DeSorbo?

  I think of a ton as like one elephant.

• 5:18Hannah Berner?

  Okay, 12 of them. I didn't even know Kit Kats could weigh that much because they're wafers.

• 5:23Paige DeSorbo?

  Where?

• 5:24Hannah Berner?

  On a train in Europe. So like now I have to wait for the documentary. I, oh, no, I don't, I don't think so. It's come up in multiple possible AI posts.

• 5:35Paige DeSorbo?

  Right.

• 5:35Hannah Berner?

  We don't know if anything's real anymore. Um.

• 5:38Paige DeSorbo?

  I came to the pod and I said, I have one thing and one thing only to speak about.

• 5:44Hannah Berner?

  Mm hmm.

• 5:44Paige DeSorbo?

  And it could take the full 45 minutes.

• 5:46Hannah Berner?

  Not the first time it's happened.

• 5:47Paige DeSorbo?

  Have you seen on the internet a thing called catching print?

• 5:54Hannah Berner?

  I have not. I have not, please educate me.

• 5:57Paige DeSorbo?

  Honey, take a seat if you weren't already sitting.

• 6:00Hannah Berner?

  Wait, let me get my notes, let me get my favorite pencil.

• 6:03Paige DeSorbo?

  A man.

• 6:04Hannah Berner?

  Okay, I'm out.

• 6:05Paige DeSorbo?

  A gay man, a gay man, and we're back in. A gay man.

• 6:09Hannah Berner?

  Again.

• 6:10Paige DeSorbo?

  Came on the internet and said, girls, enough time has gone by. Enough is enough, basically. You have been.

• 6:21Paige DeSorbo?

  What's the word?

• 6:21Hannah Berner?

  Manipulated.

• 6:22Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, like your looks are so prominent on how you get treated. You need to start knowing how big men's penis sizes are, and I'm gonna teach you.

• 6:33Hannah Berner?

  Ah.

• 6:34Paige DeSorbo?

  So, it's taking hold of TikTok. It's literally taking hold of the internet. Because when I first saw it, I felt like it was very niche. I was in a weird pocket. I was in like a small corner of the internet. And I was like, this is so interesting, wait till the girls catch on. And as the days go by, the, the girls are making videos about it. So, you know, in like a pant, a normal pant for a man, like a jean or a chino. And where the zip.

• 6:59Hannah Berner?

  Sorry, I love how you say chino.

• 7:01Paige DeSorbo?

  Chino.

• 7:01Hannah Berner?

  Chino.

• 7:01Paige DeSorbo?

  Have you seen that girl?

• 7:04Hannah Berner?

  There's a girl doing a whole series about words she loves that you say. I think the one that I saw was she was like, when Paige says loser. It's like, you feel it in your core, you go loser.

• 7:16Paige DeSorbo?

  You're a loser.

• 7:17Hannah Berner?

  Ooh.

• 7:18Paige DeSorbo?

  No, and that's my, that's my Courtney Kardashian, you're a loser.

• 7:21Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 7:21Paige DeSorbo?

  Um, and she also likes the way I say sugar.

• 7:26Paige DeSorbo?

  And I loved it, she was like, she makes it sound so good.

• 7:29Hannah Berner?

  It's funny, because we don't listen to each other talk, so we don't know how we sound. So that was very fun for us. But I do have to say, like, girls with boobs, they're basically like chest bulges. Like, you can see our boobs.

• 7:40Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, like, you know.

• 7:41Hannah Berner?

  You know what you're getting. You can see our butts, you know what you're getting. Why can't we see?

• 7:45Paige DeSorbo?

  So it's very, yeah, and people treat you completely differently. Like, you're a perfect example. No one knows you have tits. No one knows.

• 7:53Hannah Berner?

  Because I cover them up.

• 7:54Paige DeSorbo?

  And you do that purposefully.

• 7:55Hannah Berner?

  I do it purposefully because I don't want people to treat me better because of my beautiful breasts.

• 7:59Paige DeSorbo?

  See, I'd be too powerful and I'd use it.

• 8:03Hannah Berner?

  For evil.

• 8:03Paige DeSorbo?

  I'd do it for pure evil. Straight evil.

• 8:08Hannah Berner?

  But I was gonna say, you've stuffed your bras a couple nights and it's gotten crazy. You put a little chicken fillet, a little chickie chickie.

• 8:16Paige DeSorbo?

  I know, the other day I put my nipple pads on.

• 8:19Hannah Berner?

  That is when you're like so scared.

• 8:21Paige DeSorbo?

  Take them off. It looks ridiculous. You can't go out like that.

• 8:25Hannah Berner?

  Do they also, didn't you get the ones that have like a fake piercing?

• 8:28Paige DeSorbo?

  I sure did. I sure did. But you couldn't really tell.

• 8:32Hannah Berner?

  What do we call her? That's not Paige.

• 8:33Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I don't know who she is. I haven't even really given her a name yet. Because she hasn't really experienced the town. Well, because I can't get drunk. I just like vomit. So it's a whole thing.

• 8:44Hannah Berner?

  That's Penelope. I can't think of any other P names.

• 8:49Paige DeSorbo?

  No, it's more like she's like Priya.

• 8:51Hannah Berner?

  Priya, yes.

• 8:53Paige DeSorbo?

  She's like, she's really smart, but she's really slutty.

• 8:57Hannah Berner?

  And she's fun. Priya is fun. Paige is a businesswoman.

• 9:00Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, she is just like, she's doing her tuning forks. She's got a red light.

• 9:05Hannah Berner?

  Priya will cancel plans in a second if someone has more drugs at the next party.

• 9:09Paige DeSorbo?

  A hundred percent. Back to catching print. So like, I don't even know what it's called on like where there's zipper. Like it's basically like the little, I mean, it has to have a word. I want to say lapel, but like, that's not what it is.

• 9:21Hannah Berner?

  The zipper for a pant.

• 9:22Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, the zipper for a pant. So where the bulge starts would classify how big a man's penis is. Now, it's trial and error. You have to learn. So I've watched so many videos.

• 9:36Hannah Berner?

  And they're showing examples of like Jon Hamm's pants.

• 9:39Paige DeSorbo?

  Showing examples. If it's straight, like flat, there's no bulge, huge. If it starts like the bulge starts up at the top, small. The majority go right in the middle and you're like, average. And it is interesting because all of the examples he was showing, you could tell by that man's personality. Like they carry themselves so much more with how they look under clothes than I think we do.

• 10:09Hannah Berner?

  I do have to say the guy I was with, with the biggest penis, um, he was one of the nicest guys ever, but I actually felt bad for him. Cause he was, it was to a point where like, his life was harder because of it. Like, I knew.

• 10:21Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay.

• 10:23Hannah Berner?

  No, like, like

• 10:25Paige DeSorbo?

  Someone listening to this is like, we hate men. We're like, we support them, actually.

• 10:29Hannah Berner?

  No, but he was sweet and you could just tell that he's, there's been many a woman be like, you know what this, including myself.

• 10:36Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, it's too much?

• 10:37Hannah Berner?

  I can't do this. I don't want to do a whole breathing routine.

• 10:40Paige DeSorbo?

  You're kidding me?

• 10:41Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, you don't want to feel like you're getting diverginated every time. It's, it's not, I mean, it's not fun.

• 10:49Paige DeSorbo?

  I don't know if I've ever been in this situation. Now I've been in the opposite one. Where I'm like, let's sit down, let's talk about it. You definitely have trauma here. And I'm not going to tell anyone.

• 10:58Hannah Berner?

  But what about the grower versus shower theory?

• 11:02Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 11:02Hannah Berner?

  Which is real.

• 11:03Paige DeSorbo?

  Totally. He didn't touch on it.

• 11:06Hannah Berner?

  He didn't touch on it. Okay, so there's, there's factors.

• 11:08Paige DeSorbo?

  But there is, I definitely could see where he was coming from. I'm trying to think of like one example now.

• 11:14Hannah Berner?

  I love that a gay man was like, girls.

• 11:17Paige DeSorbo?

  Get it together.

• 11:17Hannah Berner?

  As someone who knows.

• 11:19Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 11:19Hannah Berner?

  Let me tell you. But then there's all these other things, like looking at forearms, looking at hands, looking at, I do.

• 11:25Paige DeSorbo?

  Height.

• 11:26Hannah Berner?

  I do think if he has thick fingers, there's something there.

• 11:29Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, absolutely. One time?

• 11:34Hannah Berner?

  In band camp?

• 11:37Paige DeSorbo?

  I really hate even, I really hate that I'm even about to tell this story, but it popped in my head. And so like, I feel like when that happens on Giggly Squad.

• 11:45Hannah Berner?

  You have to say it.

• 11:46Paige DeSorbo?

  It's like God being like.

• 11:48Hannah Berner?

  Bring it to the forefront.

• 11:50Paige DeSorbo?

  I've given you this forum, share.

• 11:51Hannah Berner?

  Share with the class.

• 11:53Paige DeSorbo?

  One time I dated this guy. This is years ago, years ago. So please don't judge me. I dated this guy and I found out that he was in fact cheating on me. Fine, totally do your thing. I found out because I went through his phone.

• 12:12Paige DeSorbo?

  But I saw that he was in fact sending spicy mirror pics, which I thought that was for girls, but totally do your thing.

• 12:20Hannah Berner?

  Do you think a full body pic that a guy sends nude is?

• 12:25Paige DeSorbo?

  That's gay. A hundred percent.

• 12:27Hannah Berner?

  I agree.

• 12:27Paige DeSorbo?

  Now, he was in boxers, okay, when he sent this picture.

• 12:32Hannah Berner?

  So he was just sending her a face card?

• 12:34Paige DeSorbo?

  Just. He's like, do you like Fruit of the Loom? Like, I don't, I don't know what their interaction.

• 12:40Hannah Berner?

  Looks maxing. Whenever the kids are doing.

• 12:43Paige DeSorbo?

  It was just weird, but anyway, I'll never forget being in this moment because I'm like pouring myself into the cellphone and I'm reading all these messages and I see this picture pop up and so I'm zooming in and I'm like, in what world is that your penis in that picture? Hannah, I forget, now this is so, this is going back, like, I'm going back over 10 years, like, maybe 10 years, whatever. I know that I was home alone for whatever situation, or maybe he was in the other room, maybe I was on an iPad, I don't know, but I know that I was in the bedroom by myself. I found what I believe he was stuffing his pants with and I.

• 13:25Hannah Berner?

  You are an investigative journalist and if anyone tells you you're not, they're lying.

• 13:29Paige DeSorbo?

  And I just had a moment where I was like, no, something's mentally wrong with him.

• 13:34Hannah Berner?

  What was he using?

• 13:36Paige DeSorbo?

  But the way he crafted it.

• 13:38Hannah Berner?

  Or more similar than different. You go, babe, get a chicken cutlet.

• 13:42Paige DeSorbo?

  Get a tissue. I'm like, wait, I could, it's gonna be somewhat squishy. It has to look believable.

• 13:47Hannah Berner?

  Stuffing is for these photos that he's sending.

• 13:48Paige DeSorbo?

  For these photos. It was such a jarring time in my life that I couldn't even make sense of it and I'm gonna be honest, I don't think I've ever told anyone that story because I was so embarrassed and freaked out, so I just thought like, let's just wait 10 years and I'll tell millions of people.

• 14:08Hannah Berner?

  Now the girls have something else to watch out for.

• 14:10Paige DeSorbo?

  Isn't that so weird and creepy?

• 14:12Hannah Berner?

  There was a time when like, we had flip phones when we were 14, you couldn't really like, you'd send like blurry pics.

• 14:18Paige DeSorbo?

  This was iPhone days.

• 14:19Hannah Berner?

  But I'm saying in general, like, there was a time where we were told, like, if you send a nude.

• 14:24Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 14:25Hannah Berner?

  It will go everywhere.

• 14:26Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 14:27Hannah Berner?

  And you'll die.

• 14:28Paige DeSorbo?

  I'll never forget, remember in like 2012 when all the girls, like iCloud's got hacked and their pictures got leaked?

• 14:34Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 14:34Paige DeSorbo?

  And the whole narrative online was, you're famous, why would you have nude pictures? Do you remember that?

• 14:39Hannah Berner?

  Let a girl have fun.

• 14:40Paige DeSorbo?

  Nope. Let a girl take a before and after.

• 14:42Hannah Berner?

  Let her have some whimsy.

• 14:44Paige DeSorbo?

  Let me like.

• 14:46Paige DeSorbo?

  Let me do what I want in the mirror, you know?

• 14:48Hannah Berner?

  But that terrified me and in my life, for some reason, I was-

• 14:52Paige DeSorbo?

  Remember that time you sent me like that nude when it was like, but it was like a shadow? Like it wasn't you, it was so artsy.

• 14:58Hannah Berner?

  Whenever I send a nude, it has to somehow-

• 15:02Paige DeSorbo?

  Be funny or artsy?

• 15:03Hannah Berner?

  And arguably, possibly not me. So I always think I'm gonna be in a scandal where I could be like, that wasn't me.

• 15:09Paige DeSorbo?

  Why do you look like you are an OnlyFans like manager?

• 15:17Paige DeSorbo?

  Like I just got a glimpse of you and I'm like, I feel like you're gonna steal me after this pod. You're gonna be like, hey Paige, get in this van while you're at it.

• 15:25Hannah Berner?

  I look like a sketchy producer. I can't see her here right now. You guys, I've had a weekend. I've had a weekend.

• 15:32Paige DeSorbo?

  No, you, how many shows did you do this weekend?

• 15:34Hannah Berner?

  Well, I realized when I did the math, I'm gonna be at sixty-five shows for this tour. I have two more left in North Carolina and then I'm done. Did I have strep throat this weekend? Probably. Did I? It was tough. It was like, it was-

• 15:48Paige DeSorbo?

  Where did you go? Where were you?

• 15:50Hannah Berner?

  I was in Cleveland, Columbus, Cincinnati and Salt Lake City.

• 15:54Paige DeSorbo?

  How are they all doing? How are the Mormons?

• 15:56Hannah Berner?

  Oh my God, the Mormons are great. I kinda walked on and I was like, you guys are the center of everything right now. Like, I'm in the belly of the beast right now, but the Mormons-

• 16:05Paige DeSorbo?

  How graphic.

• 16:07Hannah Berner?

  No, there's just so much scandal happening.

• 16:10Paige DeSorbo?

  It's from like a book.

• 16:10Hannah Berner?

  I also, Book of Mormon. I said, told them I know about the white salamander. I said, thank you for your work in genealogy or whatever they're into, but I tried. It's like when you're talking shit about someone and then they walk into the room. That's how I felt with the Mormons. Like, I'm like, you guys know what I've, what I've said on some podcasts.

• 16:28Paige DeSorbo?

  You know, like when we were in high school, like something would happen over the weekend. You'd be like, wow, when I show up to homeroom like Monday morning, I'm gonna kill myself. That's just like going on TikTok now. Like it's truly just like opening your phone. It's like, wow, okay, so everyone knows about it. Got it.

• 16:46Paige DeSorbo?

  It's too much. It's too much.

• 16:49Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, I'm like in the need of a phone break, I think. You go on the bench.

• 16:55Paige DeSorbo?

  Hannah's gonna sit this one out because it's not healthy. It's not good for anyone.

• 17:02Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, speaking of drama, I didn't actually read a book. I read an audiobook.

• 17:07Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, different.

• 17:08Hannah Berner?

  Totally different.

• 17:09Paige DeSorbo?

  Totally different.

• 17:10Hannah Berner?

  Do you know I've, I was like, I'm gonna do the audiobook. Then I was like, where are audiobooks? I know we, I know we recorded one. You have to download a whole app.

• 17:19Paige DeSorbo?

  Yep.

• 17:19Hannah Berner?

  I thought it was just like a podcast. I was like, where's the audiobooks? I had to download an app.

• 17:24Paige DeSorbo?

  You did it on your phone?

• 17:25Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, I'm in a subscription based service now. I had to give my first born away.

• 17:29Paige DeSorbo?

  Question, when you're listening to an audiobook, are you doing something else?

• 17:33Hannah Berner?

  Great question. So I was on the flight and I put it on and I realized I need more, I need more stimulation. So I put something on the TV on mute while I was.

• 17:43Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh yeah, you're sick.

• 17:44Hannah Berner?

  I'm sick. I needed a lot going on. And then I would kind of like space out. And then once I heard something get juicy, I'd rewind. Kind of like how you watch movies.

• 17:53Paige DeSorbo?

  Exactly.

• 17:56Paige DeSorbo?

  See, I see you.

• 17:57Hannah Berner?

  I see you. I hear you.

• 18:00Hannah Berner?

  Um, so I love when a book goes viral because like, let's give it up for old school. Let's give it up for ballet. Let's give it up for opera. Like, let's give it up for the crafts, like original art. Okay.

• 18:12Paige DeSorbo?

  Whatever happened to taking pen to paper?

• 18:15Hannah Berner?

  What happened to like writing on a stone?

• 18:17Paige DeSorbo?

  Like scribes and squires.

• 18:19Hannah Berner?

  Bring it back. Bring it back. Cause they, they, they walk so we could run.

• 18:24Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 18:25Hannah Berner?

  So Stuart, who's on the road with me, told me that there's a book called The Strangers. And I said, ooh, what is that about? And she's like, everyone's talking about it. So you know, it's called Strangers. And it's by Belle Burden. Now, it's called A Memoir of Marriage. The reason it's interesting is because she is an affluent New Yorker. Her great grandpa like invented oil or something. She's related to like some really fashion socialite icons. She went to fancy school. She's a fancy New Yorker. And she's exposing her marriage in this book. And the most beautiful part about it is

• 19:05Paige DeSorbo?

  Fiction? Nonfiction?

• 19:06Hannah Berner?

  Nonfiction.

• 19:07Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, wow.

• 19:08Hannah Berner?

  Yeah. So she's, and she's telling the story and you would, you're gonna get pissed, but it's also beautiful. When she was younger, she was a really great writer. She wanted to be a fictional writer. And she got into this class freshman year and she wrote this, this story. And a senior in the class who was a guy raised his hand and said, I think you suck at writing and I hate your work. And she said the, the teacher was a man, didn't say anything. And that like, a little bit later, a girl spoke up to defend her, but she was like, it was too late. I already decided I don't want to write anymore. So she went into, she's like a genius. She did law, finance, she did all this stuff.

• 19:49Hannah Berner?

  She meets this guy and he's handsome and perfect, went to Cornell. And everything's going great. And then, hmm, wait, I don't want to give away.

• 20:02Hannah Berner?

  But long story short, she kills her husband and shit goes down and as all these horrible things happen to her, she ends up writing a bestselling novel. So it's a crazy story about how you're actually sometimes rock bottom and like tough things happening to you.

• 20:19Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 20:19Hannah Berner?

  Forces, the universe forces you back to be.

• 20:23Paige DeSorbo?

  Just like man to just fuck everything up.

• 20:25Hannah Berner?

  No, I know. I know. And there are moments in it where you want to punch a wall. I'm actually not done with it, but if anyone wants a little audiobook, or you could order it and actually read it old school.

• 20:37Paige DeSorbo?

  That's what I'd like to do.

• 20:38Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 20:39Paige DeSorbo?

  That I've done once.

• 20:40Hannah Berner?

  Are you gonna read?

• 20:41Paige DeSorbo?

  That I'm gonna keep going.

• 20:42Hannah Berner?

  Strangers? Are you gonna do it?

• 20:43Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I'm, I'm fiction. I can't do anything that's like possibly real because I feel like my life isn't, I'm like, I'm like, I'm in my life, I'm like, this is a novel. This is a book. This is actually, this is a nightmare.

• 21:03Paige DeSorbo?

  You know, like what this is a tragedy of a trilogy. This is, this is the prequel and

• 21:12Paige DeSorbo?

  this is, this is too much.

• 21:14Hannah Berner?

  It's a comedy, it's a horror.

• 21:16Paige DeSorbo?

  No, it's, yeah, it's Shakespearean.

• 21:18Hannah Berner?

  Yes.

• 21:18Paige DeSorbo?

  Is what it is.

• 21:19Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 21:19Paige DeSorbo?

  It's a lot.

• 21:20Hannah Berner?

  People love when a rich person.

• 21:23Paige DeSorbo?

  Something bad happens.

• 21:25Hannah Berner?

  And she's just like, yeah, I was privileged.

• 21:26Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, why is that?

• 21:27Hannah Berner?

  She was like, I was in my Martha, Martha's Vineyard house in COVID.

• 21:31Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 21:31Hannah Berner?

  And then shit went down. Everyone's like, yes, talk about it. I, it's like, I hate when rich people pretend they don't have problems. Cause yeah, there's, then there's money issues.

• 21:40Paige DeSorbo?

  Different kinds of problems.

• 21:41Hannah Berner?

  And like, rich people's money issues are like, like next level, like.

• 21:45Paige DeSorbo?

  People don't even really like, like you have to be weary of people that don't like you for you and just like you because you're privileged.

• 21:51Hannah Berner?

  Well, I was, she talks about meeting this guy and how he, they just like work together. And then he finds out she was speaking at something because her dad is like a big art collector.

• 22:02Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 22:02Hannah Berner?

  And he suddenly was like, wait, that's you? And then like, he suddenly was like obsessed with her.

• 22:08Paige DeSorbo?

  One thing I'm waiting for, because I feel like in life, things just like will flip flop at some point, like truths come out, or it's like you get new information or whatever. I'm really ready for the era where men get called out for being like such clout chasers. Like I know way more men, I'm not kidding. I know way more men that are like gold diggers in the traditional sense where it's like, she has a lot of followers or like her dad's rich or like she has a, like I've just seen that way more than I've seen women, like all the women I know are successful, like in their own right.

• 22:49Hannah Berner?

  I feel like the women I know are like, I just want a guy who's nice and funny.

• 22:52Paige DeSorbo?

  Literally just nice.

• 22:53Hannah Berner?

  They're like, give me guys nice and makes me laugh. That's all I need.

• 22:56Paige DeSorbo?

  There's so many TikToks of girls just being like, we're so tired. Like my, all my friends are tired. My friends that are in their late twenties are tired. My friends in like their late thirties are tired.

• 23:08Hannah Berner?

  Well, that happened to me like in my late twenties, for the first time ever, I, I. I realized a man was using me, but I was like, there's no fucking way.

• 23:16Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 23:17Hannah Berner?

  That a man is using me.

• 23:18Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, it's like dystopia.

• 23:19Hannah Berner?

  I'm an innocent girl.

• 23:21Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm a baby, dear. My job is to wear cute outfits.

• 23:26Hannah Berner?

  Like, don't use me for your, your shit. You have the patriarchy. Why do you need me involved?

• 23:31Paige DeSorbo?

  When you're in your twenties and you, you're in that type of situation and you realize it, it almost feels like someone's like copying your homework. Like, to dumb it down to the lowest level feeling, it literally feels like someone copied your essay, handed it in first, and then everyone thinks like that you guys did it together or some, it's like, no, she cheated off of me.

• 23:55Hannah Berner?

  Not to say something controversial.

• 23:56Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 23:56Hannah Berner?

  Um, and not to compliment a narcissist.

• 23:59Paige DeSorbo?

  I've done it a couple times in my life.

• 24:02Hannah Berner?

  Some of these narcissists have incredible taste. Like, can we discuss how these narcissists, they see star power before you see it?

• 24:11Paige DeSorbo?

  There are so many ex-boyfriends where I'm like, you could start a talent agency.

• 24:14Hannah Berner?

  Start a talent agency. If you're gonna find us before we know what we're capable of. I'm like, they saw something in me that I never saw in myself and, and you look.

• 24:24Paige DeSorbo?

  It's star search.

• 24:25Hannah Berner?

  It's crazy because so many people in my past who have sucked the life out of me or like wished bad for me. I look back now and I go, oh my God, they.

• 24:33Paige DeSorbo?

  You knew I was a star.

• 24:34Hannah Berner?

  Well of me.

• 24:35Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 24:35Hannah Berner?

  Like, they thought more of me than I thought of myself, but I didn't see it and I didn't get it why I was a problem.

• 24:43Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 24:43Hannah Berner?

  The buzzword thing with like narcissists and stuff like that, like, sometimes they are valid. Like, sometimes it's not.

• 24:49Paige DeSorbo?

  Totally.

• 24:49Hannah Berner?

  But if someone says, stop using buzzwords, that doesn't mean it's not true.

• 24:53Paige DeSorbo?

  No, the worst.

• 24:54Hannah Berner?

  Sometimes they're actually a hundred percent true.

• 24:56Paige DeSorbo?

  The worst thing to ever happen to our generation is men learning therapy words, but not actually going.

• 25:04Hannah Berner?

  And them being like, I know that's a therapy word. Don't use that on me.

• 25:06Paige DeSorbo?

  And that's plagiarism at its finest.

• 25:08Hannah Berner?

  That's actually, um, our culture's not your costume.

• 25:11Paige DeSorbo?

  No, our culture is literally.

• 25:13Hannah Berner?

  When I do the work to know what narcissistic abuse is, and then I see it, and then I call it out, and then I'm called crazy.

• 25:20Paige DeSorbo?

  When I'm over here saying that's a reaction to your action, because I learned that a couple of years ago, and you're gonna sit here and you've never seen a human therapist and you're gonna talk about therapy jargon, like, take us several seats. I just like.

• 25:38Paige DeSorbo?

  No, that is one thing with TikTok where it's like, it's almost like too much information because then you will get like a random TikToks where it's like, I'm a therapist and I'm like, it doesn't sound like a good one.

• 25:51Hannah Berner?

  TikTok, for some reason, like everyone I follow and I like, who are like funny, cool, stylish people, none of them is on my feed.

• 25:59Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 26:00Hannah Berner?

  And it's just like random crap and God forbid I look at something too long, then it's like the rest of the day, I'm.

• 26:05Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 26:05Hannah Berner?

  It's all that, but it's like, I don't want to see random people, like con artists, telling me things just for clicks.

• 26:14Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 26:14Hannah Berner?

  But that's what like the internet's become.

• 26:17Paige DeSorbo?

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• 27:40Paige DeSorbo?

  blue that somehow goes with everything, even Daphne's eyes. They're so cute, and I'm already envisioning my next outfit, straight leg jeans. An oversized blazer and a little shoulder bag. Very, I just threw this on when we all know I absolutely did not. And Hannah is loving hers too. She has the Michaela, which is the Sam Edelman's take on a Mary Jane. And this season it comes in the chicest leopard. So gorge, so easy, and exactly the kind of shoe that makes otherwise basic outfit look like you actually tried. And there's so much more coming from Sam Edelman this fall beyond these two. Like the new Teigan and Tallulah pumps, plus ready to wear handbags, fragrances, and even a new men's collection. So basically, you can make sure both you and your man are looking good for date night.

• 28:22Paige DeSorbo?

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• 29:04Paige DeSorbo?

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• 30:31Hannah Berner?

  Also, not to go full circle, but do you think the Kit Kat robbery?

• 30:38Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm so glad we're back here.

• 30:38Hannah Berner?

  Was a man or a woman?

• 30:41Paige DeSorbo?

  It's like a legitimate robbery?

• 30:43Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, I think-

• 30:44Paige DeSorbo?

  Of Kit Kats?

• 30:44Hannah Berner?

  It could have been a woman on her period.

• 30:47Paige DeSorbo?

  That's so sexist and misogynistic and fucked up.

• 30:51Hannah Berner?

  But was it wrong?

• 30:55Paige DeSorbo?

  Ingenious. I don't, where are you selling Kit Kats like on the black market?

• 31:00Hannah Berner?

  You're about to leave this podcast, go on your phone, because your phone's listening to you, and you're gonna get nonstop stories about this TikTok robbery, and don't get mad at me.

• 31:07Paige DeSorbo?

  It's giving the guy that got abducted by dolphins for three days. That's what this story is giving.

• 31:13Hannah Berner?

  When was that?

• 31:14Paige DeSorbo?

  There was like an AI story that a guy was like, "I was abducted by dolphins and I built them a home," and it's like, that was fake.

• 31:20Hannah Berner?

  Also, to bring it all together, the good thing about nudes nowadays-

• 31:22Paige DeSorbo?

  We keep bringing it all together. We haven't gotten one place.

• 31:25Hannah Berner?

  We haven't started anything.

• 31:26Paige DeSorbo?

  No, we had to bring it together way here.

• 31:28Hannah Berner?

  The one good thing about AI is that if your nudes ever leak, say it's AI, that's AI, babe.

• 31:35Paige DeSorbo?

  At this big age, leak them. Literally leak them. What was I so scared for? Sure. Oh, I was 19? Post it! Please. Let me stay on their necks. Post it.

• 31:49Hannah Berner?

  It's true, though. You've never taken a nude you weren't proud of.

• 31:52Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, yes, I've taken a nude I'm not proud of. I've never sent a nude I'm not proud of.

• 31:55Hannah Berner?

  I mean, if you look through the camera rule, that's crazy.

• 31:59Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I'm really, I've never really been huge into that.

• 32:01Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, me and you don't do nudes because I feel like we're talking so much that-

• 32:07Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 32:07Hannah Berner?

  We don't need that kind of-

• 32:08Paige DeSorbo?

  Also, I'm so good at ignoring text messages.

• 32:11Hannah Berner?

  Oh, when a guy's like

• 32:12Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, because you wanna know what? If you ask a guy three questions in a row in text messages, they're only responding to the last one because their brains can't process that there were two questions prior to that. And that's how I work when they ask for like nudes. I'm like, oh, sorry. I guess I didn't see that text.

• 32:29Hannah Berner?

  Oh, what I used to do. Oh, my God, this is making me like remember my twenties.

• 32:33Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 32:34Hannah Berner?

  When a guy would be like, let me see, like, whatever. I would just always send a photo of a cat laying on their back. And I thought it was so cute and funny. And he'd be like, haha.

• 32:43Paige DeSorbo?

  You're so crazy.

• 32:44Hannah Berner?

  And I was like, I'm just crazy. I was like, you've never met a girl like me.

• 32:48Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, you're like, I'm not like other girls. I don't dress sexy for Halloween.

• 32:52Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, no, like, I'm so annoying.

• 32:56Hannah Berner?

  I dressed as Close Malone for four years straight.

• 32:58Paige DeSorbo?

  No, look, I feel like the word pick me gets thrown around a lot and it's like.

• 33:03Hannah Berner?

  Pick me was also a survival mechanism.

• 33:05Paige DeSorbo?

  What's like one other thing we can get mad at girls for doing and like how they act, but like there are so many traits of being a pick me girl that I've 100% had that you have to you have to like grow out of, you just grow out of certain things, but you almost don't realize it when you're doing it because like, society has almost like trained you to be a pick me and then you hit a point where you're like, actually, I am really smart. And so like, I'm not gonna pretend that I'm not in front of you.

• 33:37Hannah Berner?

  Well, that's the point of Giggly Squad. Like, growing up, when you would watch comedy, like, the women were always about the joke. Whenever you'd see a male comedian, he's always making fun of his, his wife who's so naggy. His wife is, oh, my one wife, my kid, ah. So I love going on stage and being like, you know what's annoying about my husband?

• 33:55Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 33:56Hannah Berner?

  And that is me, um, making a difference in the world.

• 34:00Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I truly became like the man I, I've dreamt of. Like I I think I would lay in bed in college and just be like, he's really successful. He's like passionate. He has like multiple areas of income. He like owns an apartment, has can take care of an animal. I can keep a plant alive. And then I just became that.

• 34:20Hannah Berner?

  Well, it's funny, in Strangers, my new favorite thing.

• 34:23Paige DeSorbo?

  Your new personality, yes.

• 34:25Hannah Berner?

  She was doing great. And then at some point, obviously, she has kids and then she.

• 34:30Paige DeSorbo?

  How old is Shay?

• 34:31Hannah Berner?

  I think she had kids like in her 30s. And she basically stopped working and she had nannies too. So she felt this guilt of like, I'm not even a full, full-time mom, but I'm not working. And then everything was just around the husband's schedule and work, even though she's the one with the big trust fund. But he's like feeling like the man of the house. And it's just, it's, it's interesting. And it made me even realize, like, I was thinking about during my family search.org. Welcome to the pod. How, like what people in my family did for a living? And then I was like, that's so sad. Like, I know for a fact, my great grandma was a mom.

• 35:08Paige DeSorbo?

  Was a star. Like, deep down was a star, but like was mom.

• 35:12Hannah Berner?

  There was no chance that she was like a butcher.

• 35:15Paige DeSorbo?

  I think if you choose to stay at home and like take care of a family and take care of a home, totally.

• 35:21Hannah Berner?

  Yes.

• 35:21Paige DeSorbo?

  It's more, I don't want you to be told you have to do that.

• 35:24Hannah Berner?

  Yes, Ali Wong famously has a joke where she's like, we wanted to vote, we wanted all these rights. And we wanted to be like, we're smart too. And then she's like, or were we smarter before when they thought we were dumb? And we could just do Pilates all day and that kind of thing.

• 35:40Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 35:41Hannah Berner?

  But um, the point is, is that when you are a trad wife, you don't have power. And sometimes you think you do, but if things go wrong, you don't.

• 35:48Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. And I just like, picking who you're gonna marry, it's really like, they could kill you.

• 35:56Hannah Berner?

  No, literally.

• 35:57Paige DeSorbo?

  Like, you have to always keep in the back of your head that you could get murdered.

• 36:02Hannah Berner?

  And if you do get murdered, it's 80% chance that it's the husband.

• 36:08Paige DeSorbo?

  Right.

• 36:08Hannah Berner?

  And 75% of the time, statistics aren't correct.

• 36:13Paige DeSorbo?

  Is that real? Does that make any sense?

• 36:18Paige DeSorbo?

  That just put my brain in a fucking pretzel.

• 36:20Hannah Berner?

  That was a dad joke. I think that was literally a joke my dad told me once. Where have the metrosexuals gone?

• 36:29Paige DeSorbo?

  They came out of the closet. That's why the term's gone. That's why they're gone.

• 36:32Hannah Berner?

  But I just feel like we've created so many different identities, but like metrosexuals got deleted.

• 36:38Paige DeSorbo?

  I know for a fact the sentence came out of my mouth in like 2008. Like, I'm really into metrosexual guys. Like, fast forward, yeah, Paige, we know. Could have seen that coming.

• 36:50Hannah Berner?

  I remember like joking and calling a guy friend a metrosexual because he like had a jacket with a pattern on it. And it was like a whole thing, but like.

• 36:58Paige DeSorbo?

  I feel like it was guys that really liked hairspray and like used a blow dryer.

• 37:02Hannah Berner?

  Yes, yes.

• 37:03Paige DeSorbo?

  You know?

• 37:04Hannah Berner?

  Yes, and they like, they tweeze their eyebrows.

• 37:07Paige DeSorbo?

  Tweeze their eyebrows or get them waxed. And like, you can tell when a guy is manicured. Like.

• 37:13Hannah Berner?

  What's the difference between a Guido and a metrosexual?

• 37:16Paige DeSorbo?

  I knew you.

• 37:19Hannah Berner?

  Because we just described Pauly D. We just described Pauly D.

• 37:23Paige DeSorbo?

  Would you, look, I'm not gonna talk bad about my first love. Like, I'm not gonna talk bad that I.

• 37:29Hannah Berner?

  Have you met Pauly before?

• 37:30Paige DeSorbo?

  I haven't, but did you ever watch the show Growing Up Gotti?

• 37:33Hannah Berner?

  Yes.

• 37:35Paige DeSorbo?

  That was like one of my biggest sexual awakenings, I feel like. Because I feel like I was in like, I don't know, maybe like fifth or sixth grade. And I was just like, what?

• 37:46Hannah Berner?

  When he walked out with his spiked hair and his white headband?

• 37:49Paige DeSorbo?

  What is, what is that? Like, I.

• 37:52Hannah Berner?

  How bad did you want to go tanning with him?

• 37:54Paige DeSorbo?

  So badly. I'm trying to think of like what one was my favorite, and I can't even think of his name. But I know he was the youngest one.

• 38:01Hannah Berner?

  I went to a school in Brooklyn where it was just all Growing Up Gotti.

• 38:05Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I loved an earring. I loved a blowout. Like, I was like, no, that's cool. Like, I liked when they had such sunburn under their eyes from the tanning bed. Like, you could see the goggle. Like, I loved that.

• 38:18Hannah Berner?

  Have you ever been to the Staten Island Mall?

• 38:20Paige DeSorbo?

  No, but I feel like I'd love that also.

• 38:24Hannah Berner?

  There was a time, and who knew it was a time in history, where like you look back and there's cavemen? There was a time in the Staten Island Mall where every guy had a blowout and a white Nike headband, full tan, diamond studs.

• 38:37Paige DeSorbo?

  The more I think about it, I've never been to Staten Island, but, but you wanna know what? People are like so rude to people that are from Staten Island. And now that I think about it, like, those are our people.

• 38:51Hannah Berner?

  They are New York City.

• 38:52Paige DeSorbo?

  I would say they are also primarily Italian, and it gets a lot of like gross Staten Island. I bet they have some, I bet they have some of the best food.

• 39:04Hannah Berner?

  Yeah. Do you think that they have their own little secret? They're like, yeah, I keep talking shit about Staten Island, but it's like actually like a tropical village.

• 39:10Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, we talk about like cats having like bad PR, but they like don't care. I feel like that's like the same with like Italians.

• 39:17Hannah Berner?

  I've heard there's just huge mansions everywhere there.

• 39:19Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, they're like, we, we don't care.

• 39:20Hannah Berner?

  Staten Island, not the worst island of the year.

• 39:24Paige DeSorbo?

  No, definitely. Wait, that was really good. Dark, but really good.

• 39:33Hannah Berner?

  Not to bring up reality TV. Someone was telling me that like Ladies of London is really good.

• 39:40Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, you can't watch it.

• 39:41Hannah Berner?

  I can't watch it, um, cause I have PTSD, but it made me think, I used to love Made in Chelsea. Can we, can the girls who are bored and wanna re-watch or something, watch Made in Chelsea?

• 39:53Paige DeSorbo?

  I would re-watch it, except it's like seventeen seasons.

• 39:58Hannah Berner?

  Is it? But don't you like that?

• 40:00Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, but there's something about me, like I, I'm a product of my environment. I'm literally Gen Z. Like I want new, I want more, I want it right now, give it to me now. Like if I ordered it now, then deliver it now. Like, I don't like watching older things, cause I'm like.

• 40:19Paige DeSorbo?

  I don't care.

• 40:20Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, it happened already.

• 40:21Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, what did you just make? Like, when I go on Netflix and something new is up there and it says 2026 under it, I get

• 40:30Hannah Berner?

  That little fire emoji on it?

• 40:31Paige DeSorbo?

  This is a new show. No one's seen it yet. Fucking play it. Like, I get so excited. Speaking of murder, there is actually a new show on Netflix.

• 40:43Hannah Berner?

  Seville?

• 40:43Paige DeSorbo?

  And each episode, no. Each episode is a different murder in New York City.

• 40:47Hannah Berner?

  Yes, I've seen that. It was charting really high. I'm still binging Drag Race.

• 40:53Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, right.

• 40:53Hannah Berner?

  I have a full-time job right now. But Drag Race, just to go back on Drag Race, it's so amazing. They're writing songs. They're acting. They're doing stand-up. They're doing rows. They're making dresses. They're doing everything. So, the other day, I was talking to a brand and they were like, can you do like, tell a story or something for us? And I said, what if I told a story through song?

• 41:21Paige DeSorbo?

  No, you didn't.

• 41:22Hannah Berner?

  And my team was like, hey, um, you're really busy this weekend. I don't know if you all the time. And I said,

• 41:27Paige DeSorbo?

  What kind of song?

• 41:30Hannah Berner?

  Like, um,

• 41:30Paige DeSorbo?

  Like, you were gonna do an ad and it was gonna be you singing a song?

• 41:34Hannah Berner?

  So I wrote a song. Cause I was passionate about it. I just, when I, when the creativity comes,

• 41:39Paige DeSorbo?

  Can you save the brand?

• 41:41Hannah Berner?

  It's for honest wipes.

• 41:45Hannah Berner?

  And immediately, I knew exactly, it came, it flowed through me. And everyone was like, you've never done this before and like, it's a quick turnaround. And I said, guys, I got this. So before my show on like, Saturday, I had Stuart film the music video. And the world premiere is airing today on Tuesday. Um, my first ever music drop.

• 42:10Hannah Berner?

  And, yeah, I'm doing well.

• 42:14Hannah Berner?

  I told my husband, he was like, what?

• 42:19Paige DeSorbo?

  No, you've gone too far.

• 42:20Hannah Berner?

  I've gone too, but this is the thing.

• 42:22Paige DeSorbo?

  Your confidence, your confidence should be studied because it wouldn't even enter my fucking brain to be like, let's put on a performance, let's do a little ditty.

• 42:34Hannah Berner?

  I don't know if it's confidence, it's more that I like to try new things, hashtag.

• 42:40Paige DeSorbo?

  Trying to be trying new things.

• 42:41Hannah Berner?

  And I like to challenge myself. I get bored very easily.

• 42:43Paige DeSorbo?

  That's why we're friends because I hate new things. I hate change. I'm not going out of my comfort zone. That's insane.

• 42:51Hannah Berner?

  Also, you guys know how I live my life. And someone DM'd me actually, because a lot of things I post are rage bait.

• 42:58Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 42:58Hannah Berner?

  For you.

• 42:59Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 42:59Hannah Berner?

  And I know when you don't respond, but like you got.

• 43:01Paige DeSorbo?

  Someone DM'd me the other day. What did you post? And they were like, they were like, why would she do that? Like, we know, you're obviously going through.

• 43:09Hannah Berner?

  I posted like these shocks, like a crazy shoe.

• 43:13Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 43:13Hannah Berner?

  And people blown me up. And this girl, Caroline Basset, Christine Cranston, wrote page bait. And I'm like, that's what it's called now, page bait. So I feel like the music video is also a little page bait because I just want to see your reaction. I just, that's how I work.

• 43:29Paige DeSorbo?

  Whatever. You live your truth.

• 43:30Hannah Berner?

  I live my truth.

• 43:31Paige DeSorbo?

  No, it's comforting to me to know that you move throughout your day and you think of me.

• 43:36Hannah Berner?

  With such, I was gonna say with such abandon.

• 43:39Paige DeSorbo?

  No, like you think of me, whether it's, whether it's like this is going to annoy her or make her happy. Who cares? You're thinking of me.

• 43:47Hannah Berner?

  Also, can I just say I do respect your boundaries because when we were first doing our tour, I was like, hey, obviously we need like a dance opening. And you said, over my dead body. And I never brought it up again.

• 43:57Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, I was just gonna say, I must have expelled that from my brain.

• 44:01Hannah Berner?

  Oh, yeah. It was a quick no. I just was like, do we do a little, a little dance in the beginning? And you said, I actually.

• 44:08Paige DeSorbo?

  I think I might've thought you were kidding.

• 44:10Hannah Berner?

  You gave me, you gave me that side look you give. And I said, I'm so sorry, Ms. Paige.

• 44:14Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, there's sometimes I'm like, don't even.

• 44:17Hannah Berner?

  Don't.

• 44:17Paige DeSorbo?

  Don't even come with me.

• 44:19Hannah Berner?

  Actually, someone messaged, they were like, I know Paige is having a day and she doesn't need this.

• 44:24Paige DeSorbo?

  When in doubt, I don't need this.

• 44:27Hannah Berner?

  Have you heard about mean girl handwriting?

• 44:30Paige DeSorbo?

  No.

• 44:30Hannah Berner?

  And you know what? I have seen over the years, there's been some accusations of mean girl behavior.

• 44:36Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 44:36Hannah Berner?

  And I just want to say, you do not have mean girl handwriting.

• 44:40Paige DeSorbo?

  I don't even know what it is, but I knew I didn't have it.

• 44:44Hannah Berner?

  Mean girl handwriting is the perfect bubble letters. And it's not like nerdy, it's like crisp and like the, the girl in the class who's popular, but like literally evil inside. I really think that's true. I've never met a mean girl who writes messy.

• 45:01Paige DeSorbo?

  No.

• 45:02Hannah Berner?

  Never, never.

• 45:03Paige DeSorbo?

  Maybe it has something to do with like the brain hand connectivity.

• 45:08Hannah Berner?

  Like it's psychopathic? Like you have to be a psychopath to like start a sentence and be as crisp by the end?

• 45:15Paige DeSorbo?

  It's so funny though, because there were so many girls in high school where I would be like, fuck, I love her notebook, but I hate her.

• 45:22Hannah Berner?

  Does Jen Alpha even know how to write?

• 45:25Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I did get a DM the other day that from a giggler that was like, a lot of the people you're talking about is Jen Alpha.

• 45:33Hannah Berner?

  Okay.

• 45:34Paige DeSorbo?

  And I was just like, okay.

• 45:35Hannah Berner?

  Let's apologize.

• 45:35Paige DeSorbo?

  And so like I apologize that there are sometimes that I say Gen Z and I mean Jen Alpha. Cause she was like, I'm almost 30 and I would never do that.

• 45:44Hannah Berner?

  Also, you came at me for how I looked, which was perfectly valid, but now I have to bring something up. The gigglers are gonna be upset. You said you hate lace. Why are you wearing lace?

• 45:54Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, this is quite different.

• 45:55Hannah Berner?

  Okay.

• 45:56Paige DeSorbo?

  This is quite different.

• 45:58Hannah Berner?

  State your case.

• 45:59Paige DeSorbo?

  This is quite different because.

• 46:03Hannah Berner?

  Keep repeating it and it'll.

• 46:05Paige DeSorbo?

  And this is quite different because.

• 46:09Paige DeSorbo?

  Coming up with like a tour theme, like me and Hannah were trying to think like, okay, if we do another tour, like what would the theme be? And like, so we just like go back and forth with like stupid jokes, but this is quite different is a good. This is quite different than last time. This is different because it's the same color as the shirt. Like it's not a different color lace and you can't see through it really. Like it's not giving that like full lacy vibe.

• 46:37Hannah Berner?

  Okay, yeah, you don't like one that looks like lingerie.

• 46:39Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, there's just like certain things, certain pieces that I think lace makes look a little matronly. And it's not, it's not across the board. So like I do, whenever I say this, I get a lot of gigglers like DMing me their wedding dress. It's like full of lace and there are some I like and some I don't. I don't want to make a blanket statement about lace, but I'm not going to ever tell you that I don't like your wedding dress because my handwriting's not that good. So like I can't do that.

• 47:08Hannah Berner?

  I just want you to like hold yourself accountable for like the things you've said in the past.

• 47:12Paige DeSorbo?

  I've had a lot of Daphne meetings about lace.

• 47:15Hannah Berner?

  Really?

• 47:15Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, because the girls do like it. And I'm going to be honest, I've looked at so many swatches and there are some that I'm just like, I don't like that though. And I can't make something that I don't like, but I am looking into it.

• 47:29Hannah Berner?

  Also, when you do have a smaller boob, like if I had smaller boobs, I feel like I would wear like those little lace tops all the time. Not full lace, but you know, like, because when I wear, I feel like I'm literally wearing lingerie.

• 47:42Paige DeSorbo?

  You know what's funny is like I live my life being like.

• 47:45Hannah Berner?

  You know what's funny? From the beginning of time.

• 47:48Paige DeSorbo?

  When my mom met my dad.

• 47:50Hannah Berner?

  The purpose of our existence.

• 47:52Paige DeSorbo?

  There are so many times where I say to myself, wow, if I had big boobs, I would be like, I would do this or I would do that or I would wear that. And it's important to know that there's a girl somewhere else, living your opposite life, wishing she had your problems.

• 48:09Hannah Berner?

  And I would say the same thing about straight haired girls and curly haired girls. I've never met a curly haired girl that wasn't like, I wish my hair was straight. And every straight haired girl's like, I wish my hair would hold a curl.

• 48:19Paige DeSorbo?

  You know, we actually have pretty similar air dried hair. And we don't talk about it a lot.

• 48:25Hannah Berner?

  We don't talk about it.

• 48:25Paige DeSorbo?

  We have like the same kind of.

• 48:28Hannah Berner?

  Except people think mine is stringy.

• 48:30Paige DeSorbo?

  Do they?

• 48:31Hannah Berner?

  Because I don't brush it all the time.

• 48:32Paige DeSorbo?

  I don't really brush mine, like I didn't brush mine. This is like textures, like Tresemme texture spray.

• 48:38Hannah Berner?

  My mom, oh, good call.

• 48:41Paige DeSorbo?

  Good plug. Did you guys hear that? That was organic.

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• 52:51Hannah Berner?

  My mom is getting a bob tomorrow. A country bob. Stop. I know. How sure is she going? She was going like Zendaya vibe, like right under the ear. Like a little Anna Wintour. I don't think she's, but she wants a side part. I don't know, I'm excited for her, but I'm a little nervous my mom might have a new personality afterwards. Well, that does happen with a bob. She's gonna start being Kurt with me. Yeah, yes.

• 53:15Hannah Berner?

  Sorry, do you want to know why that made me stop? Because this is so personal.

• 53:20Paige DeSorbo?

  Once I met a psychic tell me that a guy named Curtis, actually was gonna come into my life and like to be weary of him. And so like, I'm not kidding, at least once a month, I think

• 53:31Hannah Berner?

  When did they say that to you? When did they say that to you?

• 53:33Paige DeSorbo?

  Uh, like two years ago. Did someone say that to you?

• 53:36Hannah Berner?

  No, no, I just, I do have a friend who, a mutual friend, who I think was with a guy named Curtis, who was not good for her.

• 53:42Paige DeSorbo?

  I don't know that person, so I don't, I don't, I'm not privy to that information. I sent an email today with the word privy.

• 53:50Hannah Berner?

  How'd you spell it?

• 53:51Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, okay, you know, wait. Wrong at first. I spelled it pre-vay. At first, I did an E, it's a Y at the end. I sent an email today, and you guys know my mom's on my emails, but this one, she was legit on.

• 54:05Hannah Berner?

  She both were editing.

• 54:08Paige DeSorbo?

  This one, like, she was there, she was in the thread, like, Kim Desorbo, people knew she was there, she was allowed to be there.

• 54:14Hannah Berner?

  Okay, she was actually there.

• 54:15Paige DeSorbo?

  I had seen her response that she had sent the night before, and then this morning, I woke up and I wrote my own response to an email. And she texted me, like, 20 minutes later, and was like, saw your response, superb job.

• 54:31Hannah Berner?

  Superb, wait, if some, if someone

• 54:33Paige DeSorbo?

  It's like, Mama, I'm almost 34.

• 54:35Hannah Berner?

  If someone I respected said I did something superb, I'd retire.

• 54:39Paige DeSorbo?

  Because I, like, obviously, I second guessed myself, but I, like every other woman, I take away the exclamation marks that I think that I need. I don't give like, hi, sorry, I give, no, what the fuck? Like, I give, I try and email the way a man would email, but then I do always have a regret where I'm like, oh, my God, do they think I'm a bitch? Like, was that really mean? Or like, was that assertive? And my mom giving me that, like, that was a phenomenal email.

• 55:09Hannah Berner?

  Me and you together are really good at business because we always play good cop, bad cop.

• 55:14Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 55:14Hannah Berner?

  And we go back and forth. But like, if you say something stern, I always go, lol, ha, ha, ha. And if I have like a lot of ideas, you go, oh, Hannah, being crazy again. So we like soften. Actually, people were really pissed that I, about that clip, some people, I think, that I, that I didn't interrupt the meeting to say, like, I got the wrong food, and that I should have been more assertive about it.

• 55:38Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, shut the fuck up. Up. I hate when people say, okay, well, if I was in the situation. Okay, well, maybe you weren't in the situation.

• 55:48Hannah Berner?

  You shouldn't be eating like that in an important meeting. This is the thing. We, I was up since 5am. We got off a flight, straight to the meeting. I have a lot going on and sometimes I don't want to deal with.

• 55:56Paige DeSorbo?

  Do not.

• 55:57Hannah Berner?

  I don't want to get into altercation with the waiter.

• 55:59Paige DeSorbo?

  Do not defend yourself here, honey, over a situation that no one's even seen. No, we didn't even give good details. Honestly, we told the story wrong. So please do not sit here and think you're going to defend yourself.

• 56:16Hannah Berner?

  Wait, does Kim, has she ever given any notes about my emails?

• 56:21Paige DeSorbo?

  No, she hasn't.

• 56:22Hannah Berner?

  Really?

• 56:22Paige DeSorbo?

  But I'll keep an ear out.

• 56:23Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, keep an ear out.

• 56:24Paige DeSorbo?

  Actually, the other day, my dad called me and he was like, uh, you said no to, and like said something and I was like, what? And he was like, yeah, why didn't you want to do that? I was like, it doesn't really work with my schedule. I'm like, wait, were you on my emails? And he was like, well, your mom, I think they sit down for dinner.

• 56:42Hannah Berner?

  They open up your email.

• 56:44Paige DeSorbo?

  Hannah, they sit, I'm not kidding. They sit down for dinner. They turn on Giggly Squad on the TV, on YouTube. Doesn't matter if it's, if they've watched Mondays and it's, if they've watched Tuesday's episode, they're re-watching it Wednesday. And then they're waiting for Fridays. They sit there, they bring up their laptop.

• 57:02Hannah Berner?

  That's my family.

• 57:03Paige DeSorbo?

  They look to see what I'm doing. They talk about me.

• 57:06Hannah Berner?

  Meanwhile, your brother Gary's like, hello?

• 57:10Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, please. He had his time. Okay, he had his chance and he had his time.

• 57:15Hannah Berner?

  He did. My thing with emails, when I'm, when I have the power in the situation, I love no punctuation.

• 57:23Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 57:23Hannah Berner?

  Not like in a girly like way, like just writing XO and stuff, but I just, I, I respond as fast as possible and as.

• 57:32Paige DeSorbo?

  I think that's the most important.

• 57:33Hannah Berner?

  And just like da, da, da, da. So it's like, I'm, I'm running.

• 57:36Paige DeSorbo?

  I think it's more important, and I should take my own advice. I think it's more important to respond faster, fast, than to have like a complete thought, thought idea.

• 57:46Hannah Berner?

  A thousand percent. And I actually, from strangers, I learned, this lady was talking about she was in a relationship that she didn't want to be in. And she goes, I finally got the balls to break up with him. And she's like, it's crazy that it took a year of me thinking about it, but only 10 minutes to actually break up with him.

• 58:03Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh.

• 58:05Hannah Berner?

  You feel that?

• 58:05Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 58:07Hannah Berner?

  Well, you got like a visceral reaction to that.

• 58:10Paige DeSorbo?

  That felt because I thought I was the only person. Because no, sometimes I like would think that there was something wrong with me that I'm like, every boyfriend, I'm like, oh babe, I'm mentally out of here. Like I've, I've given you an imaginary deadline. You didn't hit it. So now I'm mentally taking myself out of it and I'll let you know.

• 58:31Hannah Berner?

  She had a guy, once she moved into her new apartment, he gets fired from his job. He's sleeping on her couch. He's like, I need this guy to leave. He could not get the balls.

• 58:41Paige DeSorbo?

  Once I turned 25 and was like, so done with, I don't know, just like really immature men. And then my next couple of relationships, I feel like maybe as a protective mechanism, I mentally was out way before it actually happened.

• 58:59Hannah Berner?

  I actually lied. I have cried a lot, but it's while breaking up with them so they can't.

• 59:03Paige DeSorbo?

  So they don't feel like you're, so you're good.

• 59:07Hannah Berner?

  I'm good.

• 59:08Paige DeSorbo?

  You're good. I can't muster it up.

• 59:10Hannah Berner?

  But I do have to say, all of my boyfriends of my past, most of them were really good guys. And I actually was sad because I was like, it's gonna be weird not talking tomorrow, but like you're not my husband. But like, you're a great person.

• 59:23Paige DeSorbo?

  It's not like. See, you want to know, actually, actually I take that back. The one nice thing I do for men during breakups is I do let them perform the speech that they've prepared. Like I do let them have, like, I, I do let them see me in person because I know that they've had something that they have to get out. And I know that like closure is important to some people. Never been, closure has actually never really been that important to me. Like if I never spoke to someone again, I'd be like, okay. And I've done it, but that's just, I think, a deep, anyway. We don't have the time to get into it. But I let them do their performance and I've seen actually some really good ones where I'm like,

• 1:00:08Paige DeSorbo?

  hey, maybe you have a point. And then I'm like, no, no, no. Um, thank you so much for that. My decision is final and.

• 1:00:16Hannah Berner?

  My favorite is like when they're like, can we hook up one more time? Okay, I don't think you understand the point of the breakup, it's because I don't want to anymore.

• 1:00:23Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. So that's interesting.

• 1:00:26Hannah Berner?

  But it overall, it's just so interesting how like the breakup seems like this big scary thing, but it literally is gonna take 10 minutes. Girl, it'll take you 10 minutes. You've had a longer poop than that.

• 1:00:37Paige DeSorbo?

  No, true. And then there are so, then once you're out of it.

• 1:00:40Hannah Berner?

  Oh, you, you weigh 20 pounds later.

• 1:00:43Paige DeSorbo?

  And I'm like, oh, hello. What the fuck? No, it's crazy, but you have to get there. And it's like, you really do have to get there on your own. And there are so many times where I've broken up with people and I'm like so mad at myself because I'm like, why didn't I fucking do that? Two years ago. And you really, you can't get mad at yourself because it's fate. If you didn't stay, then maybe you wouldn't have met the person you're supposed to be with, or maybe like you wouldn't have moved to a new city and gotten a new, so it's really like, I truly do believe in like divine timing, but.

• 1:01:17Hannah Berner?

  I also do believe that like, you know, early on, if this guy.

• 1:01:22Paige DeSorbo?

  You know the day they ask you to be your third girlfriend.

• 1:01:25Hannah Berner?

  Like you know, what do you mean?

• 1:01:27Paige DeSorbo?

  Like.

• 1:01:34Hannah Berner?

  Who are you?

• 1:01:36Paige DeSorbo?

  I feel like every boyfriend I've ever had, like the moment they're like, will you be my girlfriend? My guts been like, no.

• 1:01:44Hannah Berner?

  Oh, you're saying that you know?

• 1:01:46Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I know. I know getting this to it, I gotta get out.

• 1:01:49Hannah Berner?

  The other thing where you know immediately when a person is right.

• 1:01:53Paige DeSorbo?

  Sure, maybe.

• 1:01:54Hannah Berner?

  Like, we, I think we are, we are different with that.

• 1:01:57Paige DeSorbo?

  You wanna know what? We just said the same thing. I said it in the pessimistic way, you said it in the optimistic way. And that's why we're best friends. I'm so happy you're my best friend.

• 1:02:07Hannah Berner?

  And I'm so happy you're mine.

• 1:02:08Paige DeSorbo?

  Carrie out there, I couldn't, uh, add to.

• 1:02:12Hannah Berner?

  I love how your only note this episode was catching print.

• 1:02:15Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 1:02:17Paige DeSorbo?

  That's what I've been doing all week. Since you left me over the weekend, that's all I've been doing.

• 1:02:22Hannah Berner?

  That's all you've been doing. Did you have a restful weekend?

• 1:02:26Paige DeSorbo?

  What did I do? I feel like I can't even remember what I did this weekend.

• 1:02:29Hannah Berner?

  Did you watch anything? Did you make any art?

• 1:02:32Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, my God. What did I do this weekend? I'm really, I'm really doing my, like, taking my 10,000 steps seriously. And I started doing 12,330 again.

• 1:02:42Hannah Berner?

  OK, I told you, you only need 7,000.

• 1:02:44Paige DeSorbo?

  OK, well, my 10 is important to me.

• 1:02:47Hannah Berner?

  Are you doing outside or on your walking pad?

• 1:02:50Paige DeSorbo?

  A little bit of both. Josephine used my walking pad the other day for a Daphne video with the TSA bin that I ordered on Amazon. And there are a couple of gigglers that were like, you put a TSA bin on your walking pad. And I'm like, shh, shh, shh.

• 1:03:02Hannah Berner?

  No, that was, that was creative.

• 1:03:04Paige DeSorbo?

  It was creative. That was just working with what you've got at home.

• 1:03:09Hannah Berner?

  Yes, perfect. We, we like feel it. We're all like, mm. Um, thank you guys so much for giggling with us. We love you so, so, so much. Um, stay happy and healthy.

• 1:03:22Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 1:03:22Hannah Berner?

  I had Dez, I told him to order me Italian food halfway through the podcast.

• 1:03:28Paige DeSorbo?

  Hannah, I have a chicken parm waiting for me at home. We're not sisters, Hallie. We're twins.

• 1:03:32Hannah Berner?

  We're twins.

• 1:03:35Paige DeSorbo?

  Bye.