#2471 - Mark Normand

Mark Normand is a stand-up comedian, actor, and co-host of the podcasts “Tuesdays with Stories!” and “We Might Be Drunk.” His new special, “None Too Pleased,” is now streaming on Netflix.www.netflix.com/title/82155387www.youtube.com/@marknormandwww.marknormandcomedy.com Perplexity: Download the app or ask Perplexity anything at https://pplx.ai/rogan. Get a free welcome kit with your first subscription of AG1 at https://drinkag1.com/joerogan Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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• 0:01Speaker 00

  The Joe Rogan Experience.

• 0:15Speaker 01

  Hey Charlie Kirk.

• 0:16Joe Rogan?

  Say hi to him. No.

• 0:18Speaker 01

  Don't shoot him.

• 0:19Joe Rogan?

  No, no, don't say that. No, don't say that.

• 0:22Speaker 01

  Dog's a Nazi. Alright.

• 0:24Joe Rogan?

  He's gonna sit right here and chill out. What up, dog? New Netflix special, out now.

• 0:30Speaker 01

  You got that right, fatty.

• 0:31Joe Rogan?

  Let's fucking go.

• 0:32Speaker 01

  None too pleased. Check it out, we just hit number five, so I'm trying to get to Uno.

• 0:37Joe Rogan?

  Well, maybe this'll do it.

• 0:38Speaker 01

  Hopefully.

• 0:39Joe Rogan?

  Hopefully. I'll put it up on my Instagram when the show runs.

• 0:41Speaker 01

  Alright, thank you, thank you. Everything helps.

• 0:45Joe Rogan?

  It's a saturated market.

• 0:47Speaker 01

  I know, there's 19 comedy specials a day now, YouTube and Hulu and the other thing, 4chan.

• 0:53Joe Rogan?

  It's not just that, there's like, just, you're competing with content. You think about how many fucking shows there are now, it's kinda nuts.

• 1:01Speaker 01

  I mean, forget shows, there's shows, there's TikToks, there's reels, there's shorts, it never ends.

• 1:06Joe Rogan?

  Never been a time where there's more things to watch and divide your attention.

• 1:11Speaker 01

  I know.

• 1:12Joe Rogan?

  And then there's the war. Yay.

• 1:14Speaker 01

  There's the war, there's-

• 1:15Joe Rogan?

  So much to pay attention to, right Charlie?

• 1:16Speaker 01

  There's politics, there's OnlyFans.

• 1:18Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. So much to pay attention to, buddy.

• 1:22Speaker 01

  Oh yeah.

• 1:23Joe Rogan?

  So much, Charlie.

• 1:25Speaker 01

  We'll just pretend that's Ari.

• 1:27Joe Rogan?

  Uh, he's back.

• 1:29Speaker 01

  Well, you know Ari always gets too high and an hour in, he just shuts up.

• 1:33Joe Rogan?

  Don't fall off the table, hey.

• 1:36Speaker 01

  He looks like the Ayatollah now, have you seen him? He's got the beard.

• 1:38Joe Rogan?

  I know.

• 1:39Speaker 01

  And he's gay.

• 1:40Joe Rogan?

  He came to the club the other day. He's gay now too?

• 1:42Speaker 01

  Yeah, the Ayatollah.

• 1:43Joe Rogan?

  Oh, the new Ayatollah's gay.

• 1:44Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:45Joe Rogan?

  Is that real?

• 1:46Speaker 01

  Ah, that's what Trump said.

• 1:47Joe Rogan?

  I think that's his real.

• 1:48Speaker 01

  He's never lied. Oh, okay.

• 1:50Joe Rogan?

  I think they're just trying to fuck with the guy. Cause if you get, if you're gay in Iran, they just throw you off a building, right?

• 1:56Speaker 01

  He's gonna have to throw himself off.

• 1:57Joe Rogan?

  You know there was like one of the first places, or the number one place in the world for transgender surgeries?

• 2:02Speaker 01

  I heard that.

• 2:03Joe Rogan?

  Because you couldn't be gay.

• 2:04Speaker 01

  So you'd rather be a woman?

• 2:06Joe Rogan?

  You just have to be a woman.

• 2:07Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 2:07Joe Rogan?

  You gotta get fucked in the ass.

• 2:08Speaker 01

  That's kinda progressive.

• 2:09Joe Rogan?

  I can't get fucked in the, well, you can, I guess. They don't check. But you get fucked in your fake cooter.

• 2:16Speaker 01

  Fake cooter, that sounds like an Austin bar. Fake cooter.

• 2:20Joe Rogan?

  It probably will be.

• 2:21Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:21Joe Rogan?

  After this.

• 2:22Speaker 01

  Ah, Iran. I mean, they've gotta be terrified. I don't know much about anything, but I would be scared to fight a country that is having a fistfight on the White House lawn. That's how badass and crazy we are. Like, we're fighting at the president's house, each other.

• 2:38Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:39Speaker 01

  We're gonna fuck you up.

• 2:40Joe Rogan?

  I'm not thrilled about that.

• 2:42Speaker 01

  You're gonna be there?

• 2:43Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I'll be there, but I'm not thrilled about it. It doesn't seem like a wise idea. Yeah, it looks like they're targeting the fucking reporter.

• 2:50Speaker 01

  Whoa.

• 2:51Joe Rogan?

  Hey, Charlie, come here, buddy.

• 2:53Speaker 01

  Ah, this dog's gonna be a, it's gonna be a whole different show here.

• 2:56Joe Rogan?

  Nah, he'll calm down. He just has to relax. He's never been with me alone before. He's only been with my wife alone, but he loves me. He slept with me last, he sleeps in the bed with my daughter, so he slept with me last night.

• 3:10Speaker 01

  Oh, boy.

• 3:12Joe Rogan?

  You're a little buddy.

• 3:14Speaker 01

  That's good. We got diversity here. It's a brown dog.

• 3:18Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, they attacked that reporter, man.

• 3:20Speaker 01

  Crazy.

• 3:21Joe Rogan?

  It looked, I mean, unless it was a wayward missile, which is like, what happened to precision strikes?

• 3:27Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 3:27Joe Rogan?

  I thought they were surgical. Remember they would call them surgical?

• 3:30Speaker 01

  That's right.

• 3:31Joe Rogan?

  Imagine calling a bomb that's going like 5,000 miles an hour surgical?

• 3:35Speaker 01

  I think they got old equipment over there. They got Atari and shit. They're way behind. But we hit a school. That was on us, I think.

• 3:43Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 3:43Speaker 01

  Yeah, but even in our, other countries were shooting schools.

• 3:47Joe Rogan?

  Well, the school was unfortunately, what is it, Jim?

• 3:51Speaker 01

  Whoa, is that the, damn, that's quite a hit.

• 3:54Joe Rogan?

  Whoa, that's nuts.

• 3:56Speaker 01

  Jesus, good, looks like LA.

• 3:58Joe Rogan?

  Whatever. It's crazy that you can capture it. Like, how good are these cameras? Meanwhile, they couldn't catch that plane flying into the Pentagon.

• 4:06Speaker 01

  True.

• 4:06Joe Rogan?

  Right? When you see that thing, that thing looks just like a missile too.

• 4:10Speaker 01

  Right.

• 4:10Joe Rogan?

  What do you think that was, that plane that hit the Pentagon? It doesn't really look like a plane. Why would they be shooting a missile into a place that's already been hit by missiles?

• 4:18Speaker 01

  And why is it in Russia?

• 4:20Speaker 03

  Oh, that's just a reporter.

• 4:22Joe Rogan?

  Russia, Russia Today reporter.

• 4:23Speaker 01

  Oh, got it, got it. Sorry.

• 4:25Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, RT, you know, that channel. I, in Lebanon, oh, in Lebanon. I wonder if they're going after press, because they've gone after press before.

• 4:36Speaker 01

  Interesting.

• 4:37Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I mean, they've been accused of shooting press in Gaza.

• 4:40Speaker 01

  Right.

• 4:41Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 4:42Speaker 01

  Smart, because they want to tell their own story. I don't want you in there with your cameras.

• 4:46Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. What do you think about these Netanyahu AI videos?

• 4:50Speaker 01

  I haven't seen them.

• 4:51Joe Rogan?

  You haven't seen them?

• 4:52Speaker 01

  No.

• 4:52Joe Rogan?

  Oh, they think he might be dead.

• 4:54Speaker 01

  What?

• 4:55Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. There's a bunch of AI videos that Israel has released that are like clearly AI.

• 5:01Speaker 01

  What?

• 5:02Joe Rogan?

  Show him the one where there's in the cafe. This one's nuts. Like this one, I would assume that some kid made.

• 5:11Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 5:11Joe Rogan?

  Just fucking around on his computer.

• 5:13Speaker 01

  Alright.

• 5:13Joe Rogan?

  Like I saw it, I was like, there's no way they're really trying to pass this off as an actual video of Netanyahu at a cafe.

• 5:20Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 5:20Joe Rogan?

  In the middle of the war, like everything is calm and peaceful.

• 5:23Speaker 01

  I couldn't tell. Was it that one?

• 5:24Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, this one. Well, that's just a clip. Show the actual.

• 5:28Speaker 01

  Why can't it, so it didn't, um? Bebe.

• 5:30Joe Rogan?

  It's on the Israel website, or the Israel Twitter page.

• 5:34Speaker 01

  Oh, really?

• 5:35Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. No, they released it.

• 5:37Speaker 01

  Holy moly. He's dead. That's crazy.

• 5:40Joe Rogan?

  Well, his brother's dead. His brother got killed in a missile strike.

• 5:43Speaker 01

  Recently?

• 5:44Joe Rogan?

  Yes.

• 5:44Speaker 01

  What?

• 5:45Joe Rogan?

  Yes. They struck his hat. Are you just not online? What's going on?

• 5:49Speaker 01

  I just watch funny shit and goof around.

• 5:52Joe Rogan?

  Pour some of that. Let's fucking go. Come on, give me some.

• 5:55Speaker 01

  Oh, hey, I thought you quit the sauce.

• 5:56Joe Rogan?

  Oh, no, I got back on.

• 5:57Speaker 01

  Hey! I thought you got, you turned Muslim or something. I didn't know what happened.

• 6:01Joe Rogan?

  Jihad. I'm back.

• 6:02Speaker 01

  Hell, yeah.

• 6:03Joe Rogan?

  Alhamdulillah. Pour me one.

• 6:05Speaker 01

  Easy, Zoran.

• 6:08Speaker 01

  Bodega cat.

• 6:09Joe Rogan?

  Cheers, sir.

• 6:10Speaker 01

  Cheers. Hey, good to be back. With Ari's dead weight holding us down.

• 6:15Joe Rogan?

  I don't get drunk. Oof, I might this off this stuff though. But I have started drinking again. I took like eight months off. It was a good reset.

• 6:23Speaker 01

  I mean, you're so sure. I'll take a week off and I'm like limitless.

• 6:27Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Well, I realized that because of the club, I was just drinking too much.

• 6:31Speaker 01

  Right.

• 6:31Joe Rogan?

  And I was just tired all the time. Like, and I'd go to work out the next day. I was like, God, I feel like shit. Why am I doing this to myself? And then I took eight months off. Then I had a glass of wine with dinner. I was like, ooh, I like it. And then I had a margarita and I was like, ooh, I'm back.

• 6:45Speaker 01

  It's a great time.

• 6:46Joe Rogan?

  This one. So look at this. This is AI.

• 6:48Speaker 01

  That's fake.

• 6:49Joe Rogan?

  Well, people have zoomed in on the, um, signs and stuff and it's not even real writing.

• 6:54Speaker 01

  Hmm.

• 6:55Joe Rogan?

  And he's saying, look, I have five fingers.

• 6:57Speaker 01

  Weird.

• 6:58Joe Rogan?

  He's joking around, you know, because there was an AI video before that people were criticizing because it looked like one of his fingers had grown an extra appendage.

• 7:07Speaker 01

  Right.

• 7:08Joe Rogan?

  I think that just looked like the crease of his hand, honestly, to me.

• 7:11Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 7:12Joe Rogan?

  But this looks fake as fuck. First of all, it's weird because he sips out of the cup, and yet the cup stays exactly the same level, and no matter where he moves the cup around, it doesn't spill.

• 7:26Speaker 01

  Right.

• 7:26Joe Rogan?

  Like, there's a moment where he turns the cup, like, almost sideways. It moves way too much for it to not spill at all.

• 7:34Speaker 01

  And why would he just be doing, it looks like an ad for this coffee shop? He's just hanging out at a coffee shop during a war?

• 7:40Joe Rogan?

  And also, like, how's everybody so casual?

• 7:43Speaker 01

  Yeah. He didn't tip, though, so that's the Judaism is coming through. But, yeah, no, this is crazy.

• 7:48Joe Rogan?

  It also looks like AI. Like, he looks like he's got a beauty filter on. That doesn't look like a human being.

• 7:53Speaker 01

  Totally. This is silly.

• 7:55Joe Rogan?

  Let me hear what he's saying. What is he saying? Is it in Hebrew?

• 8:17Joe Rogan?

  Look, everybody's happy to see him. Can you imagine if you were in that coffee shop, you're like, "Please leave. Please leave before the bombs come. Please leave before they target you." They're trying to find that guy everywhere he fucking goes.

• 8:27Speaker 01

  Yeah. Oh, you look at that. See, we got the Ayatollah in there, too.

• 8:31Joe Rogan?

  They faked that one. Look at that. They're just showing you how easy it is.

• 8:35Speaker 03

  There's some really good AI platforms now, and to know what they would have that they're not showing is, who knows?

• 8:41Speaker 01

  This is, he's got, come on, he can't be dead.

• 8:43Joe Rogan?

  He might be dead. His brother's, see, that's like, look at this.

• 8:46Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 8:47Joe Rogan?

  Like, the coffee, look how turned it is. It doesn't spill at all. It just wiggles to the edge. And then they've also shown that, like, on the register and in some of the signs, the writing's not real. It's very, very fucking weird, man.

• 9:02Speaker 01

  Well, RIP. Drink one for her for...

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• 11:15Joe Rogan?

  It also works as a power bank and has a built in LED flashlight. No co, the end of jumper cables. Use code ROGEN10 for 10% off. Select jump starters at NO dot CO. A who? We hasn't been seen publicly in over a week. Hmm. So he might be gone. Yeah, there's a lot of crazy shit going on. I can't keep up with the Hormuz. I don't know what that's about. It's completely closed now. They, they even bombed, like the Saudis had another way to move oil out into another direction across the Red Sea, I believe it is. And the, the Iranians bombed that yesterday. Oh, yeah? Yeah. Woo. Yeah, it's getting hot, dude. It's, it's fucking scary.

• 12:00Speaker 03

  Speaking live as we.

• 12:01Joe Rogan?

  Oh. Okay, he's alive. In front of people?

• 12:04Speaker 03

  I don't know, just opened Twitter back up and this was there.

• 12:07Joe Rogan?

  I wonder, so if he is alive, I wonder why they would release that clearly AI video. Cause that, like, this looks like a normal human, right? Yeah, kind of. This doesn't look.

• 12:17Speaker 04

  They said that privately.

• 12:19Joe Rogan?

  It's a little glossy.

• 12:21Speaker 04

  The world owes a debt of deep indebtedness, deep indebtedness to President Trump for leading this effort to safeguard our future.

• 12:33Joe Rogan?

  Hmm. Man, but this guy's been trying to get war with Iran for decades, man. Yeah, oh yeah, he's loving this. And if he's not, by the way, if he's not in war, he's not in office anymore. And then, and then he gets indicted. Right. He's in the middle of at least one case, one corruption case. Hmm. Well, this is his Super Bowl. He's, he's in heaven. So there's people in the audience, right? So this is real.

• 13:00Speaker 03

  Well, I mean, there's, that, they're not, this angle doesn't show them. It's like a static angle, but you can hear people's voices, which, you know, if we want to be.

• 13:08Joe Rogan?

  Oh, they don't show the people?

• 13:10Speaker 03

  You could say that's fake.

• 13:11Joe Rogan?

  Hmm. I need to see the people. I need to see somebody hug them. So wait, why, why aren't you excited? I need to see somebody jerk them off. I want to know it's real. Let's see that no foreskin. Can you imagine if they did show that? They just show them just blasting like 12 foot arcs. Of rope?

• 13:27Joe Rogan?

  Just fire hose of jizz to show how virile he is.

• 13:31Speaker 01

  Man of Chevitz. Now, why are you not looking forward to the White House fight?

• 13:36Joe Rogan?

  Um, well, it's kind of a gimmick.

• 13:39Speaker 01

  Of course.

• 13:40Joe Rogan?

  There's that, and you know, people are criticizing the card, but if it was any other card, it's a great card.

• 13:46Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 13:47Joe Rogan?

  Just they're criticizing it because they said it was going to be the greatest card of all time. And it's also, it's just gonna be a security nightmare.

• 13:53Speaker 01

  That's true.

• 13:53Joe Rogan?

  You're on the White House lawn. Also, they're fighting outside. What if it rains? What if it's hot?

• 13:58Speaker 01

  Hmm.

• 13:58Joe Rogan?

  You're in the middle of June.

• 14:00Speaker 01

  Right.

• 14:00Joe Rogan?

  June in DC can get pretty warm.

• 14:02Speaker 01

  Yep, yep.

• 14:02Joe Rogan?

  That affects fighters. Like, we only did one outside fight that I was a part of, and that was in Abu Dhabi, and it was a nightmare.

• 14:11Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 14:11Joe Rogan?

  It was really hot, and there was bugs flying around. They're size of fucking birds.

• 14:16Speaker 01

  Oof.

• 14:17Joe Rogan?

  It was crazy.

• 14:18Speaker 01

  It's like stand-up. You gotta do it indoors.

• 14:20Joe Rogan?

  Hundred percent.

• 14:20Speaker 01

  Outside is hell for stand-up.

• 14:22Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's terrible, terrible.

• 14:24Speaker 01

  Yeah, most shows are bad outside, but here's my idea. We do White House fight, but we fight politicians. Huh? You get Boebert versus AOC? Now that's a fight.

• 14:33Joe Rogan?

  I like that.

• 14:34Speaker 01

  But I think RFK would win everything.

• 14:36Joe Rogan?

  I think Jasmine Crockett whoops them all.

• 14:38Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah. She's feisty. She'd take a shoe off.

• 14:41Joe Rogan?

  She pulls the wig off, stuffs it in your mouth. You can't breathe.

• 14:44Speaker 01

  Takes her earrings off. I'm terrified.

• 14:47Joe Rogan?

  Well, she's not a politician anymore. She lost, right?

• 14:50Speaker 01

  Yeah, but she'll be around. They'd never leave.

• 14:52Joe Rogan?

  Maybe.

• 14:53Speaker 01

  They go forever, these guys.

• 14:54Joe Rogan?

  Maybe.

• 14:55Speaker 01

  Bernie's still cooking.

• 14:57Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but he's the senator. He's been a senator forever. I mean, she's lost, so who knows what's gonna happen now?

• 15:03Speaker 01

  Hillary's around. What is she doing?

• 15:05Joe Rogan?

  She's, uh, probably eating pussy.

• 15:08Speaker 01

  Ah.

• 15:09Joe Rogan?

  You think?

• 15:10Speaker 01

  I hope. I mean, she needs a relief. This guy, this lady's... I kinda like Hillary just because she's, you know, she got cheated on publicly with the Monica thing. Now she's doing the Epstein's Island stuff. She lost the presidential race, and she's still out there. She's kind of a badass. I would kill myself at this point.

• 15:28Joe Rogan?

  Well, she's also got like a list of people that have mysteriously disappeared.

• 15:33Speaker 01

  Oh, is that right?

• 15:33Joe Rogan?

  That are attached to her and Bill.

• 15:36Speaker 01

  Oh, really?

• 15:36Joe Rogan?

  Hey, you don't know about that?

• 15:37Speaker 01

  No.

• 15:38Joe Rogan?

  For real? You don't know about the Clinton body count?

• 15:41Speaker 01

  I know Norm was on The View years ago and he said Clinton killed a guy.

• 15:45Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he said he killed a bunch of people, I think.

• 15:46Speaker 01

  That's where I get my information.

• 15:48Joe Rogan?

  It's a good way to get it, from The View. Super solid, detailed information.

• 15:52Speaker 01

  But she's getting like grilled by the Epstein people, or about Epstein, and she's just like going off. And Bill's reminiscing.

• 16:00Joe Rogan?

  Well, she walked, she stormed out because Lauren Boebert took a picture of her.

• 16:04Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 16:05Joe Rogan?

  And posted it online, like, "That's it, I'm leaving."

• 16:08Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 16:09Joe Rogan?

  How were you allowed to leave?

• 16:10Speaker 01

  Yeah, exactly.

• 16:11Joe Rogan?

  Because somebody took a picture, "Sit the fuck down, you're not even in office anymore, you're just a civilian. Sit your fucking ass down and answer the questions."

• 16:19Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 16:20Joe Rogan?

  Like, it's just an excuse to leave.

• 16:22Speaker 01

  But you gotta hand to Bill, he's denying till he dies.

• 16:24Joe Rogan?

  Hey, I did nothing, I was only there for humanitarian purposes.

• 16:29Speaker 01

  We got photos and everything.

• 16:30Joe Rogan?

  I was just getting massages and hugging nice people.

• 16:34Speaker 01

  Exactly.

• 16:35Joe Rogan?

  Nothing untoward was done to me or anyone else that was there, as far as I know.

• 16:42Speaker 01

  Yeah, this is pretty good.

• 16:43Joe Rogan?

  I didn't see that side of Jeffrey Epstein.

• 16:47Speaker 01

  You gotta bring this back.

• 16:48Joe Rogan?

  Hey.

• 16:52Speaker 01

  Look at this guy, we got photo evidence!

• 16:53Joe Rogan?

  That lady's smiling. If she claims victim, I call horseshit.

• 16:56Speaker 01

  Ah.

• 16:57Joe Rogan?

  She looks like she's having a good time. Also, that's a woman, you know?

• 16:59Speaker 01

  That's true.

• 17:00Joe Rogan?

  It's like, once you're a woman, okay, you know, unless someone's holding a gun to your head. If we're talking about children, we're talking about a different thing, but there's a lot of these ladies that were grown women when they were doing this, and the emails that were exchanged between Epstein and these women, like, they were well aware of what's going on, at least some of them were. There was this Russian lady who was talking, she was recruiting girls, she was saying, "This one's, this one's a fat ass, she needs to lose some weight." Like, she's trying to get these girls to work with Epstein.

• 17:31Speaker 01

  Right. Who, Just Lane?

• 17:33Joe Rogan?

  No, wasn't Just Lane, it was some other Russian lady.

• 17:36Speaker 01

  Oh, damn.

• 17:37Joe Rogan?

  Like, these, some of these ladies at least were, like, look, the real criticism, the real legitimate criticism is where there are underage girls involved. Now, clearly, they were in Epstein's past, he went to jail for it, the whole Palm Beach thing with the underage masseuses. But some of these are just ladies who did bad things. They made bad decisions and they probably wound up on that island for money.

• 18:05Speaker 01

  Yeah, okay, couple of whore moves.

• 18:08Joe Rogan?

  Oh, hey, where you going, buddy? Charlie, he snuck out, little fucker. I'm a little worried about. I was hoping, he looked like he was totally calm, just sitting in that chair. Oh, Jamie's got him now. Bro, you're locked up. Jamie's used to having a little dog and he's like, oh, he's giving you kisses.

• 18:26Speaker 01

  Damn, not a Rogan fan, huh? He doesn't like the pod, he's bored.

• 18:29Joe Rogan?

  No, he just, he doesn't, doesn't know this environment. I think he's a little weirded out. And then he was out there with the mountain lion, stuffed mountain lion, and the alligators, like, and the werewolf. He's like, what the fuck is this place? He's never been here before.

• 18:41Speaker 01

  And there's weed smoke, there's dog scent.

• 18:44Joe Rogan?

  The cigars, everything. Whiskey in here, he probably smells that.

• 18:48Speaker 01

  Speaking of which, you got any of those stogies?

• 18:51Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, let's bust them out.

• 18:51Speaker 01

  I would love a stogie.

• 18:53Joe Rogan?

  Let's go.

• 18:53Speaker 01

  Hell, yeah. Boy, see, I can't keep up with all the news. You know about Epstein, you know about Iran, you know about Israel, you know about Hillary. This is, uh...

• 19:03Joe Rogan?

  I barely know. I'm off, uh, social media. I've been off social media for a while. The only time I'm on is when someone sends me something funny. And then I go and check it. And then I, I find myself scrolling for like thirty seconds and I was, stop!

• 19:16Speaker 01

  That's how they get you.

• 19:17Joe Rogan?

  Stop fucking scrolling.

• 19:18Speaker 01

  It's impossible. They're so good at it.

• 19:21Joe Rogan?

  These say knuckle sandwich. Where did these come from? Knuckle sandwich is, uh... That can't be the same place. Cause there's a... Isn't there a place, there's knuckle sandwich, which is the sandwich truck in Austin, which is awesome.

• 19:37Speaker 01

  And Chris Brown's album.

• 19:39Joe Rogan?

  Hey, good, good, good, good, good. Oh, these are Guy Fieri cigars. All right, let's hope they're good.

• 19:46Speaker 01

  Did you see that bachelorette who got kicked off for beating the shit out of her husband?

• 19:50Joe Rogan?

  Yo.

• 19:50Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 19:51Joe Rogan?

  On the show?

• 19:52Speaker 01

  My wife's a big, uh, reality lady and, uh...

• 19:56Joe Rogan?

  That's healthy.

• 19:56Speaker 01

  I know, right? She loves it, all of those ninety day fiance.

• 20:00Joe Rogan?

  Chicks love that shit.

• 20:01Speaker 01

  They love it, that and true crime.

• 20:03Joe Rogan?

  Yes, right? Isn't it weird?

• 20:05Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 20:05Joe Rogan?

  I get the true crime because they don't really commit those kind of violent acts. So they probably need to understand, like, the male mind.

• 20:13Speaker 01

  Right.

• 20:13Joe Rogan?

  That makes sense to me.

• 20:14Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 20:15Joe Rogan?

  But what I don't understand is, I mean, I don't know, maybe I'm just...

• 20:20Joe Rogan?

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• 21:04Joe Rogan?

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• 21:27Speaker 01

  Well, they say it's biological. They're like, "Oh, I'm learning how to avoid these scary moments."

• 21:31Joe Rogan?

  No, I get that, because it is. Like, my daughters, young daughters, they all love it. Everyone loves it. Their friends love it.

• 21:38Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 21:38Joe Rogan?

  It's like the number one show with ladies.

• 21:40Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 21:41Joe Rogan?

  Like, the number one podcast with ladies is true crime.

• 21:45Speaker 01

  It's great.

• 21:46Joe Rogan?

  You know what the number two show for ladies is?

• 21:48Speaker 01

  What?

• 21:49Joe Rogan?

  You're on it.

• 21:49Speaker 01

  Hey, get out of here. Really?

• 21:52Joe Rogan?

  Number one with black people, too.

• 21:53Speaker 01

  Hey, take that, Shea Shea.

• 21:56Joe Rogan?

  Holla.

• 22:00Speaker 01

  All right.

• 22:01Joe Rogan?

  Shout out to all my African-American friends.

• 22:03Speaker 01

  Hell, yeah.

• 22:04Joe Rogan?

  Let's let them go. These are not bad. Guy Fieri. Let's go, Guy.

• 22:08Speaker 01

  I love Guy.

• 22:10Joe Rogan?

  He's a fun dude.

• 22:11Speaker 01

  Cool dude.

• 22:13Joe Rogan?

  Got a bunch of yellow cars, though. That's odd.

• 22:15Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, he's not the best fashion sense. You know, shirts with flames on it, frosted tips.

• 22:22Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but you're paying attention.

• 22:23Speaker 01

  That's true.

• 22:24Joe Rogan?

  Like, if you wanna be a chef and you wanna be like a celebrity chef, you gotta either be a great narrator and a great writer like Bourdain.

• 22:31Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 22:32Joe Rogan?

  Or you gotta be like angry.

• 22:34Speaker 01

  Like Gordon Ramsay.

• 22:35Joe Rogan?

  Gordon Ramsay, you know?

• 22:37Speaker 01

  That's true, but what happened to show, when I was getting chefs were like fat guys with beards and now they all have, they're jacked with tats.

• 22:43Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, well, they're all, they all look like artists, cuz they are artists.

• 22:47Speaker 01

  I guess, but it's...

• 22:49Joe Rogan?

  I didn't really think of that until I watched Bourdain's show, and then I was like, oh, these guys are making temporary art.

• 22:54Speaker 01

  That's true, then you get to eat it.

• 22:55Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but it is art.

• 22:57Speaker 01

  It is art, yeah, they're mixing oils, there's a lot of chemistry involved.

• 23:01Joe Rogan?

  Mm-hmm.

• 23:01Speaker 01

  But they kinda went the same path as porn stars. Porn stars used to be like voluptuous and hairy, bush, and now they're all like, they're all like MMA fighters, they're jacked and taking it in the ass.

• 23:14Speaker 01

  It's wild, they're all tatted up and pierced and shit.

• 23:17Joe Rogan?

  One of the things that I've been watching a lot, when the world is going completely crazy, I watch people making street food in other countries.

• 23:23Speaker 01

  Oh, that's...

• 23:24Joe Rogan?

  With no language, no talking, it's all ASMR, it's all them cooking.

• 23:28Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, no regulations either.

• 23:30Joe Rogan?

  Bring them over here, bring them over here, come on.

• 23:32Speaker 01

  They're not washing hands over there.

• 23:34Joe Rogan?

  Come here, Char Char. Char Char, have a seat.

• 23:36Speaker 01

  And they'll use roadkill, whatever, like, they don't give a shit.

• 23:40Joe Rogan?

  No, they're using good food. It was Afghanistan, they were making roast chicken.

• 23:44Speaker 01

  Oh, come on.

• 23:45Joe Rogan?

  Dude, I'm telling you, I'll send it to Jamie and you'll watch it.

• 23:48Speaker 01

  All right, all right.

• 23:49Joe Rogan?

  It's exciting.

• 23:49Speaker 01

  I mean, I ate halal trucks for ten years when I was broke in New York. They're great.

• 23:54Joe Rogan?

  They are great.

• 23:54Speaker 01

  But I could be eating pigeon and, uh...

• 23:56Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, you probably are.

• 23:57Speaker 01

  Children.

• 23:58Joe Rogan?

  Not children, but definitely pigeon. Probably pigeons made it into your mouth a couple of times.

• 24:03Speaker 01

  Yeah, all right.

• 24:04Joe Rogan?

  Let me find these motherfuckers. I watch so much YouTube. YouTube is my number one thing since I'm off so social media.

• 24:10Speaker 01

  I love it.

• 24:11Joe Rogan?

  It's my number one thing for distraction.

• 24:15Speaker 01

  Whoa.

• 24:16Joe Rogan?

  Oh yeah, this is exactly, Jamie, you're the best. This is the most cheap food in Afghanistan. This guy, uh, he sets up. They cook all this stuff and you, you wa- I mean, it's like a forty minute video or something. How long is it?

• 24:28Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 24:28Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's like a forty, forty minute video. I watched the whole thing. Just like at home chilling after a long day's work, just watching people cook street food in Afghanistan. It looks fucking delicious, man.

• 24:40Speaker 01

  Look at those spices, my god.

• 24:43Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, and they, they have, uh, meat in this stew pot and they, well, it's like, you know, a big wok, it looks like.

• 24:50Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 24:51Joe Rogan?

  And they boil it up with all the salt and all these herbs and spices. And then they got these roast chickens and they take these chickens and they stick them in spikes. If you back up the video a little bit, it's earlier in the video. You show they take these chickens and they just have this big flame in the middle.

• 25:06Speaker 01

  Mmm.

• 25:07Joe Rogan?

  And then they stick these chickens all around the flame.

• 25:10Speaker 01

  This is hell for a vegan.

• 25:11Speaker 03

  The shape of that, fun fact, I think, if this is true, uh, that's because that's, they used to flip their shields upside down.

• 25:17Speaker 01

  Whoa.

• 25:18Joe Rogan?

  Oh.

• 25:20Speaker 03

  It's sort of like with the Genghis Khan stir fry.

• 25:23Joe Rogan?

  Oh, that makes sense.

• 25:26Speaker 01

  I love it.

• 25:26Joe Rogan?

  That makes sense.

• 25:27Speaker 01

  Yeah, man. Wouldn't it be great if the end is just a big drone strike?

• 25:32Joe Rogan?

  Well, we don't bomb Afghanistan anymore, we send them money.

• 25:35Speaker 01

  Oh, is that right?

• 25:36Joe Rogan?

  Now we send the Taliban money.

• 25:37Speaker 01

  Man.

• 25:38Joe Rogan?

  We send them a ton of money.

• 25:38Speaker 01

  We hook up everybody, Ukraine.

• 25:40Joe Rogan?

  Should go to, back to the chickens, though, if you back up.

• 25:42Speaker 01

  Whoa, he's got a little brush.

• 25:44Speaker 03

  Oh, there, there.

• 25:44Joe Rogan?

  No, you, yeah, there it is. So this is how he does it. So they have this fire in the middle and they just take these chickens on a stick and they just rotate them. And they put them in the center, they put the fire in the center and the chickens all around them and they rotate them. I got so hungry, I had to go in the kitchen to make myself food afterwards.

• 26:00Speaker 01

  This is a chicken Holocaust.

• 26:02Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it looks good, right?

• 26:03Speaker 01

  Man, it does look amazing.

• 26:05Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, dude, it looks fucking delicious.

• 26:07Speaker 01

  I mean, you, you ever get the rotisserie chicken at the grocery store?

• 26:09Joe Rogan?

  Oh.

• 26:10Speaker 01

  There's nothing better.

• 26:11Joe Rogan?

  Pretty good.

• 26:11Speaker 01

  It's good, you just eat it with knife and fork, no, no, uh, no nothing.

• 26:15Joe Rogan?

  You like, that's a good thing to do when you just wanna be completely distracted. That's what I like. I like watching people make like tables.

• 26:24Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 26:25Joe Rogan?

  Furniture and shit.

• 26:27Speaker 01

  That, that, the horse hoof cleaning is great.

• 26:30Joe Rogan?

  I watched that too, ferriers.

• 26:32Speaker 01

  What is that? Is that something in us, I think? In eight old times.

• 26:35Joe Rogan?

  It must be.

• 26:36Speaker 01

  It must be.

• 26:37Joe Rogan?

  Like, there's a nail in his hoof. Oh, get it out!

• 26:39Speaker 01

  Get it out! Get the gunk out!

• 26:41Joe Rogan?

  Help the horse!

• 26:42Speaker 01

  Yeah, and the horse loves it. That's a good one. What else is good? Uh, the pressure washing is kinda fun. That's when I'm really high. I take an edible, I just wash a guy, he's just washing a wall and it goes from black to cement.

• 26:54Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Thirty-two million. Okay, so what is that? Why, why are we so interested in watching people clean up horse hooves?

• 27:03Speaker 01

  I think part of it is, it doesn't hurt the horse and it looks like it would. So that's kinda fascinating, cuz it's all, what is that, like cartilage or?

• 27:10Joe Rogan?

  It's all like fingernail stuff.

• 27:12Speaker 01

  I guess so.

• 27:12Joe Rogan?

  Giant fat fingernails.

• 27:14Speaker 01

  Wow!

• 27:15Joe Rogan?

  That's what it's like. I mean, that's what a horse hoof is. And if they don't take care of the hooves, they get real weird and they look like, like Arab shoes. Where they like curl up at the tips.

• 27:23Speaker 01

  Yeah, right, right. There it is!

• 27:25Joe Rogan?

  Like that, like that.

• 27:26Speaker 01

  There it is.

• 27:27Joe Rogan?

  So this must be somebody just like completely neglected that poor horse.

• 27:31Speaker 01

  But what do horses do in the, uh?

• 27:33Joe Rogan?

  They wear off from running around.

• 27:34Speaker 01

  Oh, I see.

• 27:36Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, just like a dog's fingernails. Like, you have to trim your dog's nails unless the dogs run around outside a lot, and then you don't have to do anything.

• 27:42Speaker 01

  Got it.

• 27:43Joe Rogan?

  Oh, the dogs all have, horses all have.

• 27:45Speaker 01

  They never stop growing.

• 27:47Joe Rogan?

  Rat teeth don't stop growing? Beaver teeth don't, right?

• 27:49Speaker 01

  Is that right? I didn't know that.

• 27:51Joe Rogan?

  Oh, shearing sheep.

• 27:51Speaker 01

  Oh, this is good stuff.

• 27:52Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 27:53Speaker 01

  Wow!

• 27:54Joe Rogan?

  Isn't it amazing how many views, how many, how many views does that have? Wanna guess? Uh, yeah, twenty-three million.

• 28:00Speaker 01

  I'm gonna go.

• 28:00Joe Rogan?

  Three million subscribers on the channel.

• 28:02Speaker 01

  I'm gonna go eighty million.

• 28:04Joe Rogan?

  Three million subscribers? Three point seven. Three, three point seven million.

• 28:08Speaker 01

  Oh, okay. This is just a Greek guy.

• 28:10Joe Rogan?

  Look at that. There's another guy that I love. It's, uh, the channel's called Wilderness Cooking.

• 28:14Speaker 01

  Mmm.

• 28:15Joe Rogan?

  And this guy lives in Azerbaijan and he cooks in the mountains. It always looks delicious. And then, at the end of it, he has a bite of it and he looks at you and he goes, "Super." He like puts, gives you a thumb up.

• 28:27Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 28:27Joe Rogan?

  It's a great channel. It's like, and that guy's got millions and millions of views. This dude. So he's always like, he catches fish and he does all the things. He, he makes his own fire and he's always cooking in weird ways.

• 28:40Speaker 01

  Wow. See, this guy's way happier than all of us.

• 28:43Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's having a good time. Well, he lives in peaceful mountains. He's making delicious food.

• 28:47Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm. Imagine him on Cameo, just saying, "Super." He could make a billion dollars.

• 28:53Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but, "Happy birthday, super."

• 28:56Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 28:57Joe Rogan?

  Who's, who makes the most on Cameo? They're still doing that?

• 29:00Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 29:00Speaker 01

  Really?

• 29:01Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 29:02Joe Rogan?

  Who's like the number one earner on Cameo?

• 29:04Speaker 01

  That's a great question. Sure, Dynamite had a run. It's gotta be somebody with a catchphrase.

• 29:09Joe Rogan?

  Is Jimmy Walker still alive?

• 29:10Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 29:11Joe Rogan?

  Is he still touring?

• 29:13Speaker 01

  I, I'd imagine. I don't know how he pays the bills.

• 29:16Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 29:16Speaker 01

  These old guys, you wonder how they have money.

• 29:18Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 29:19Speaker 01

  Can that last? Like, how long does Dynamite?

• 29:21Joe Rogan?

  You know what I worry about? Guys who were like middle acts, like, 20 years ago and they just faded out. Like, what are you doing?

• 29:29Speaker 01

  I assume Uber or something.

• 29:31Speaker 03

  John Kirakow.

• 29:33Joe Rogan?

  John Kirakow is number one?

• 29:35Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 29:35Joe Rogan?

  That's crazy. So he does cameos?

• 29:39Speaker 01

  Who's that? Let me know who that is.

• 29:41Joe Rogan?

  Who are all the, John Kirakow?

• 29:42Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 29:43Joe Rogan?

  Former CIA guy, went to jail.

• 29:45Speaker 01

  What?

• 29:45Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, they, they put him in jail. A golfer?

• 29:48Speaker 03

  That's my buddy Bob.

• 29:49Joe Rogan?

  Oh, you know him?

• 29:49Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 29:50Joe Rogan?

  And he's number two?

• 29:51Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 29:51Joe Rogan?

  How much money does he make?

• 29:52Speaker 03

  I mean, he does a lot of these. He was always in a fight like with Santa during Christmas time and John Gruden's been up here for a while, but he's not currently on here.

• 30:00Joe Rogan?

  Oh, that dude, Soi Tieth, that guy who sings?

• 30:03Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, he's fun.

• 30:04Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, and then who's Red? Is that one of the Island Boys? Who's that guy in the lower left corner?

• 30:10Speaker 01

  Oh, wow, that guy.

• 30:12Joe Rogan?

  Those guys are still at it.

• 30:12Speaker 03

  And then the rest of these, I don't know.

• 30:16Joe Rogan?

  So John Kierkegaard costs $179 for one of those.

• 30:20Speaker 01

  Oh bam.

• 30:21Joe Rogan?

  Dan Margaritas in there.

• 30:21Speaker 01

  Good for him.

• 30:22Joe Rogan?

  Who else is in there? Anybody you know?

• 30:25Speaker 03

  No.

• 30:25Speaker 01

  No.

• 30:26Speaker 03

  Names I do not recognize. Nick Foley?

• 30:28Joe Rogan?

  Interesting.

• 30:29Speaker 01

  Oh, Red Dead Redemption guy.

• 30:31Joe Rogan?

  Oh, Nick Foley, the wrestler.

• 30:33Speaker 01

  There you go.

• 30:34Joe Rogan?

  How odd. What an odd thing.

• 30:37Speaker 01

  Who's buying a Rappaport?

• 30:38Joe Rogan?

  President Donald Trump parody is number 37. Michael Rappaport?

• 30:44Speaker 01

  He's screaming enough for free. Oh, Buffer's gotta be up there.

• 30:48Joe Rogan?

  Of course, Buffer.

• 30:49Speaker 01

  349.

• 30:50Speaker 03

  I've seen people in a hotel, they've like heard him doing them.

• 30:54Joe Rogan?

  Oh yeah, I've seen him do them. I've seen him do them. I've been with him when he's doing them.

• 30:58Speaker 01

  How crazy his story with his brother.

• 30:59Joe Rogan?

  Crazy.

• 31:00Speaker 01

  Isn't that bananas?

• 31:01Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 31:02Speaker 01

  That kinda shit blows my mind.

• 31:03Joe Rogan?

  Didn't even know his brother until they were like 30.

• 31:06Speaker 01

  And they just found each other with the voice, both fighting.

• 31:08Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, well, he was like the budget Buffer in the beginning. Like he was like, if you couldn't afford Michael, you got Bruce. But now Bruce is way better than Michael. No disrespect to Michael.

• 31:20Speaker 01

  Oh boy.

• 31:20Joe Rogan?

  But Michael gets, you know, Michael's smooth. Let's get ready to rumble, which is perfect for boxing. But Bruce is perfect for MMA.

• 31:29Speaker 01

  Yeah, he's got more flair.

• 31:30Joe Rogan?

  He gets you fucking hyped.

• 31:31Speaker 01

  Oh yeah, he's got the suit on.

• 31:33Joe Rogan?

  He's gonna drop dead doing that one day. We've all called it. Cause he gets beet red and now he's like deep in his 60s.

• 31:39Speaker 01

  Oh yeah.

• 31:39Joe Rogan?

  I don't know how old he is.

• 31:40Speaker 01

  And he parties too, I think.

• 31:41Joe Rogan?

  Bruce parties?

• 31:42Speaker 01

  Oh yeah.

• 31:42Joe Rogan?

  How do you know?

• 31:43Speaker 01

  There's a bunch of videos of him. He got in a fistfight in an elevator with an MMA fighter.

• 31:47Joe Rogan?

  Oh, that was a Frank Trigg? Yeah.

• 31:48Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 31:49Joe Rogan?

  Kind of a fistfight.

• 31:50Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 31:50Joe Rogan?

  Like a little bit of a pushing, shoving, probably. Frank Trigg would literally kill him.

• 31:56Speaker 01

  I know, that's why I'm impressed, cause he stood up to him.

• 31:59Joe Rogan?

  Frank Trigg was an animal when he was young.

• 32:02Speaker 01

  Yeah, I would not fuck with that guy.

• 32:03Joe Rogan?

  I think it was when Frank was still fighting.

• 32:05Speaker 01

  That's crazy.

• 32:06Joe Rogan?

  I don't think Frank really fought him back.

• 32:08Speaker 01

  Ah.

• 32:09Joe Rogan?

  I think that would be a very quick encounter.

• 32:11Speaker 01

  But just the fact that he was up for it.

• 32:13Joe Rogan?

  I don't know what really happened.

• 32:15Speaker 01

  I think the story's online somewhere.

• 32:17Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's Bruce's version of the story.

• 32:19Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's true.

• 32:20Joe Rogan?

  You know what I mean? I don't know. Not that Bruce is lying. Bruce might have thought he was in a fight and Frank might have thought it was hilarious.

• 32:26Speaker 01

  Right, right.

• 32:27Joe Rogan?

  I don't know.

• 32:28Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 32:28Joe Rogan?

  But Bruce did martial arts most of his life.

• 32:31Speaker 01

  The craziest coincidence of all, and get your fingers ready, JMo. Dennis the Menace, the cartoon. Was invented in England and in America on the same day.

• 32:43Joe Rogan?

  What?

• 32:44Speaker 01

  Put that in your pipe and jizz on it. Get, get that cooking. Oh yeah, cuz they were like, oh, you must have stolen this. So they went back and, and researched it. They were both invented, same character, same name, on the same day and the same year.

• 32:58Joe Rogan?

  That makes no sense.

• 32:59Speaker 01

  Isn't that bananas? My brain blew up.

• 33:02Joe Rogan?

  That literally makes no sense.

• 33:03Speaker 01

  It's crazy. So, that's a fun one.

• 33:06Joe Rogan?

  How's that possible?

• 33:07Speaker 01

  I don't know, just, you know, monkeys writing on a typewriter, eventually you get Shakespeare. Two guys thinking of the same thing, same day, cross the pond.

• 33:15Joe Rogan?

  Maybe that's one of those things, like, what is that called? Like, um, like Berenstein bears? The mandala effect.

• 33:22Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 33:23Speaker 03

  That's not the same thing, cuz that's like when it's not real. This is something that's real.

• 33:27Speaker 01

  That's true.

• 33:28Joe Rogan?

  Right, that's right, right. No, I'm thinking of the wrong thing. What does perplexity say? Our lovely AI sponsor, perplexity, says, there's actually two completely separate Dennis the Menace comic strip characters that debuted almost simultaneously in 1951, created independently in the UK and the US. So how would they even know about each other back then?

• 33:47Speaker 01

  Oh, sorry, 17th and 12th, so they're five days apart.

• 33:51Joe Rogan?

  Who started first? British was the 17th.

• 33:54Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 33:54Joe Rogan?

  On sale, issue dated 17 March, on sale 12 March, created by these guys, American, on 12 March? No, like, basically the same day on sale. On sale the same day.

• 34:08Speaker 01

  Unbelievable. Blonde hair, overalls.

• 34:13Joe Rogan?

  And it said, hold, go back to what the saying was again? It said, your son is a menace? Did they both say that? No.

• 34:21Speaker 01

  I don't know.

• 34:22Joe Rogan?

  Wow, both mischievous little boys, but they look different. UK Dennis has black hair.

• 34:28Speaker 01

  Hmm.

• 34:28Joe Rogan?

  Red and black jumper. US Dennis, blonde hair, overalls. They live in different fictional worlds. Creators worked entirely independently, no evidence, either knew about the other before publication. So it's treated as a famous coincidence rather than copying. Wow.

• 34:44Speaker 01

  Unreal. There they are, side by side.

• 34:47Joe Rogan?

  Wow.

• 34:49Speaker 01

  That kinda shit is kooky.

• 34:51Joe Rogan?

  That's weird. That's like when rats, you, like, if you teach a rat how to get out of a maze on the East Coast, rats on the West Coast get out of the maze quicker.

• 35:00Speaker 01

  No fucking way.

• 35:02Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. There's a guy named Rupert Sheldrake, he calls it morphic resonance. He thinks there's some sort of like communication that all animals have with each other all over the world that we can't quantify, that we can't measure, but it seems real.

• 35:18Speaker 01

  Yeah, well apparently I got caught in an ant pile when I was a kid and all the ants swarmed on me and they all bit me at once. I felt it, I was like, ah! It was just one big just wave of pain.

• 35:30Joe Rogan?

  Oh yeah.

• 35:30Speaker 01

  They communicated.

• 35:32Joe Rogan?

  Well, ants just immediately attack though, as soon as you get on the anthill.

• 35:36Speaker 01

  But ants are, they're on another level.

• 35:38Joe Rogan?

  You hear about the lady that fell, uh, she was, her parachute didn't deploy, but she landed in an ant pile of fire ants? And she survived because she was bit like a thousand times by these fire ants? And somehow or another, the ant bites and the adrenaline that caused it helped, hey, don't jump down, stay up there buddy. Is what kept her alive.

• 36:00Speaker 01

  What?

• 36:01Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 36:02Speaker 01

  Wow. That's when you start going religion shit.

• 36:06Joe Rogan?

  I know.

• 36:06Speaker 01

  Like, how did that happen?

• 36:07Joe Rogan?

  Stay up here buddy, stay up here.

• 36:09Speaker 01

  Ant bites?

• 36:11Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. 1999. Her parachute malfunctioned. She fell 4,500 feet, her backup parachute opened at 700 feet but quickly deflated. She continued to plummet towards the ground at 80 miles an hour. Miraculously, she survived the fall, thanks to the fact she landed directly on a mound of fire ants. Doctors believe the intense shock of being stung over 200 times by the ants released a surge of adrenaline which kept her heart beating.

• 36:36Speaker 01

  Oh, it's like a clear, she got cleared by ants.

• 36:40Joe Rogan?

  Isn't that nuts?

• 36:41Speaker 01

  That is kooky. It's like when those guys jump off the Golden Gate Bridge and a seal a guy jumped off, broke all his bones and a seal pushed him to the shore.

• 36:50Joe Rogan?

  Whoa.

• 36:50Speaker 01

  That's in the documentary, The Bridge. And-

• 36:53Joe Rogan?

  A friend of mine did that, died.

• 36:54Speaker 01

  Really?

• 36:55Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he killed himself.

• 36:56Speaker 01

  It's the number one spot to kill yourself.

• 36:58Joe Rogan?

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• 39:09Speaker 01

  Ah.

• 39:10Joe Rogan?

  In, I wanna say Seattle, something like that. I forget what newspaper. But when Hunter was like off the rails and out of his fucking mind too, it's perfect. Another different kind of off the rail.

• 39:21Speaker 01

  Right, right.

• 39:22Joe Rogan?

  So he followed my friend Tony all across the country gambling. It's a great book about like pool hustling.

• 39:29Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 39:29Joe Rogan?

  Tony was like a world-class professional pool player and they went around the country gambling and I don't know what happened with him, but I lost touch with them and then.

• 39:38Speaker 01

  Was he Golden Gate?

• 39:39Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 39:40Speaker 01

  Oh damn, it's like they all know to go there.

• 39:42Joe Rogan?

  Well, he was a San Francisco guy. He lived up there his whole life. And I got this message from a friend of mine. Tony jumped off the bridge. I was like, no.

• 39:51Speaker 01

  Whoa.

• 39:53Speaker 01

  Crazy, well it's.

• 39:54Joe Rogan?

  Weird, cuz I watch matches sometimes on YouTube and he's doing the commentary for the matches.

• 39:59Speaker 01

  Oh, that's crazy.

• 40:00Joe Rogan?

  It's so strange cuz he seems so happy. He's enjoying himself, they're cracking up and I'm like, what is it that makes someone wanna end it? You know, what is it? Like what was, I guess he had like some failed business ventures and he was going bankrupt and.

• 40:15Speaker 01

  Well, depression is, you know, way, was way more un-researched back then.

• 40:21Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 40:21Speaker 01

  You know, he probably just thought, ah, something's wrong with me. I gotta end this pain.

• 40:25Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 40:26Speaker 01

  But damn, but yeah, everybody who lived, they said, each of them said separately, right when my hand left the rail, I was, I regretted it.

• 40:35Joe Rogan?

  Oh yeah.

• 40:36Speaker 01

  Every single one.

• 40:37Joe Rogan?

  They all say that, yeah. Everybody who lives.

• 40:39Speaker 01

  So don't do it.

• 40:40Joe Rogan?

  It's a terrible idea.

• 40:41Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 40:41Joe Rogan?

  Do you remember the one in downtown LA where the guy was like on, I think he shot himself with a shotgun. He was like standing on the edge of a bridge and it was live on TV. Do you remember that one?

• 40:54Speaker 01

  No, no.

• 40:54Joe Rogan?

  There was like a standoff, they were trying to get him not to jump, and he had a shotgun.

• 40:58Speaker 01

  What?

• 40:58Joe Rogan?

  I think I'm conflating it.

• 40:59Speaker 01

  Pull it up.

• 41:00Joe Rogan?

  But I'm pretty sure he blew his brains out.

• 41:02Speaker 01

  Ah.

• 41:02Joe Rogan?

  On TV.

• 41:03Speaker 01

  Damn, well I knew about the fat guy with the gun in the mouth.

• 41:06Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah.

• 41:07Speaker 01

  The politician guy.

• 41:08Joe Rogan?

  Was he a judge?

• 41:09Speaker 01

  Maybe a judge.

• 41:10Joe Rogan?

  A dirty judge?

• 41:11Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah.

• 41:12Joe Rogan?

  That song, "Hey Man, Nice Shot."

• 41:14Speaker 01

  Exactly, yeah, and that was a hot video when I was a kid.

• 41:17Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah.

• 41:18Speaker 01

  What is it, Taste of Death, or?

• 41:20Joe Rogan?

  Bud Dwyer.

• 41:20Speaker 01

  Bud Dwyer, Bud Dwyer, that's it.

• 41:22Joe Rogan?

  That was one of the first ones where you got to see a guy die, like a viral video. He put a giant gun in his mouth, look at that, forty-four.

• 41:29Speaker 01

  And everybody goes, "No, no, don't do it." Oh, crazy, like, "Stay back."

• 41:33Joe Rogan?

  Relax, everyone, stay calm.

• 41:35Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 41:35Joe Rogan?

  They just shoved it in his mouth and boom.

• 41:38Speaker 01

  Woo.

• 41:38Joe Rogan?

  Blew the top of his dome off.

• 41:40Speaker 01

  And now we just see people getting shot on Twitter every ten seconds.

• 41:42Joe Rogan?

  Every day.

• 41:43Speaker 01

  I mean, the Kirk thing, I remember waking up and being like, "Good God."

• 41:46Joe Rogan?

  The Kirk thing's weird. The Kirk thing's weird because now there's video footage from behind.

• 41:52Speaker 01

  Is that right?

• 41:52Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it, I mean, the round that he was supposedly shot with was a thirty-odd-six, which is a big round. That's a round that you can kill a moose with.

• 42:01Speaker 01

  Uh-huh.

• 42:01Joe Rogan?

  And it doesn't even have an exit wound.

• 42:03Speaker 01

  Right.

• 42:04Joe Rogan?

  It don't make no sense. It makes zero sense.

• 42:06Speaker 01

  Well, you hear about this Joe Kent?

• 42:08Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 42:09Speaker 01

  Yeah, they told him not to research or investigate.

• 42:12Joe Rogan?

  Yes.

• 42:13Speaker 01

  So what's up with that?

• 42:14Joe Rogan?

  He said that they were told to stop their investigation.

• 42:17Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 42:17Joe Rogan?

  And that they were gonna handle it.

• 42:19Speaker 01

  And he just resigned.

• 42:20Joe Rogan?

  And meanwhile, have they handled it? Like, we haven't seen that guy, the guy who loves furries, who supposedly killed Charlie Kirk.

• 42:26Speaker 01

  Tyler.

• 42:27Joe Rogan?

  Robinson?

• 42:28Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah.

• 42:28Joe Rogan?

  We haven't seen him talk.

• 42:30Speaker 01

  No.

• 42:31Joe Rogan?

  He hasn't said he did it, he hasn't said he didn't do it, there's no, no, like, independent video of him talking about it.

• 42:38Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 42:39Joe Rogan?

  And then there was footage of him, like, at a yogurt shop.

• 42:41Speaker 01

  Right.

• 42:42Joe Rogan?

  Way across town, like, twenty minutes later, the whole thing is, like, super sus.

• 42:46Speaker 01

  It's similar with the guy who shot Trump, whatever his name was, he had three names.

• 42:50Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah, that kid, that kid was in a BlackRock commercial two years before.

• 42:54Speaker 01

  He had no silverware, and look, I-

• 42:56Joe Rogan?

  His house was professionally scrubbed.

• 42:58Speaker 01

  And, no one can ask questions about that, we can't, uh, deep dive on that?

• 43:03Joe Rogan?

  If you do, you're a conspiracy theorist.

• 43:04Speaker 01

  He shot a presidential elect.

• 43:07Joe Rogan?

  Well, not only that, but isn't that a fucking conspiracy? Like, that's a conspiracy.

• 43:12Speaker 01

  Right.

• 43:12Joe Rogan?

  Conspired to murder the President of the United States.

• 43:15Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 43:16Joe Rogan?

  It seems like he had help.

• 43:17Speaker 01

  Of course.

• 43:18Joe Rogan?

  How the fuck did he get up onto that roof? How did they not have people on that roof? They said the slope was too steep.

• 43:24Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 43:24Joe Rogan?

  Meanwhile, there were snipers on another roof that had a sharper angled roof.

• 43:28Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, yeah. And then he has no social media. He has no history. It's all kooky.

• 43:34Joe Rogan?

  Super suspect.

• 43:35Speaker 01

  Yeah. We can't ask questions or else we're assholes.

• 43:38Joe Rogan?

  Well, not only that, the kooky people online now think that that was staged. And that, you know, Trump had that guy shoot his ear. Like, you don't know jack shit about guns if you think that that was staged.

• 43:51Speaker 01

  I will say the flag going up with the photo op was pretty, was pretty, uh, perfect.

• 43:55Joe Rogan?

  But sometimes that's like Dennis the Menace. Shit just lines up perfectly.

• 43:59Speaker 01

  I guess so.

• 44:00Joe Rogan?

  You know what I mean? Sometimes weird stuff happens.

• 44:02Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 44:02Joe Rogan?

  They're like, how is this so perfect?

• 44:05Speaker 01

  Right, right.

• 44:06Joe Rogan?

  You know?

• 44:07Speaker 01

  Yeah, we gotta get to the bottom of it.

• 44:09Joe Rogan?

  But he got shot in the ear, man. I saw his fucking ear. He had like a little mark on his ear.

• 44:12Speaker 01

  I remember that. Get, get Nick Shirley on this shit. He's cracking all kinds of cases.

• 44:17Joe Rogan?

  Bro, they, the stuff that he just found in California is bonkers.

• 44:20Speaker 01

  If you see that guy in your town, you're fucked.

• 44:23Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 44:23Speaker 01

  He's a, a persistent little queef, that guy.

• 44:26Joe Rogan?

  Would you see what the governor posted, what Newsom's press office posted? They posted a photo of Nick Shirley, like a fake Nick Shirley, like a meme.

• 44:34Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 44:35Joe Rogan?

  Like Nick Shirley peeking into windows. Like, hey, he's doing your job. He's uncovering fraud and what you're doing is mocking him?

• 44:44Speaker 01

  Right. You should go, oh shit, this fraud?

• 44:47Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 44:47Speaker 01

  I'm the governor.

• 44:48Joe Rogan?

  They should just open up the investigations into all these places immediately if you cared. But all they wanna do is just obfuscate, cover it up, make it look silly.

• 44:59Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 45:00Joe Rogan?

  Make it look like he's something, whatever he is, white supremacist.

• 45:03Speaker 01

  Right, right.

• 45:04Joe Rogan?

  Nazi, whatever, MAGA. Come up with a name.

• 45:07Speaker 01

  I don't wanna get into it. My kid's at a Somali daycare right now, so I don't wanna. I don't wanna say anything crazy. But yeah, that was, that was all kooky. And like, I don't know what's real and what isn't anymore. You know, and if you ask questions, you're this, you get labeled, I don't know.

• 45:21Joe Rogan?

  I know.

• 45:22Speaker 01

  It's a wacky time and no one's happy.

• 45:25Joe Rogan?

  It's a, a time where we've never had more information and no one's less sure about anything.

• 45:30Speaker 01

  Yes, and the same with lon- we're more lonely than ever and we have more connectivity than ever.

• 45:35Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but it's the kind of connectivity that people have, just. It's not, that's why I'm off social media. It's just not good for you.

• 45:42Speaker 01

  No.

• 45:43Joe Rogan?

  I hop on to post things and I get the fuck out of there.

• 45:46Speaker 01

  But you seem to know a ton of stuff, so I'm like, how are you off social media but also knowledgeable?

• 45:50Joe Rogan?

  Google News Feed and then things that informed people send me.

• 45:54Speaker 01

  Uh huh.

• 45:55Joe Rogan?

  I rely on people sending me things now, which is way better. Cause everybody's always sending you things that are, have you seen this shit? Holy fuck.

• 46:01Speaker 01

  I said something yesterday about that.

• 46:02Joe Rogan?

  Always.

• 46:03Speaker 01

  Youtube deleted it.

• 46:04Joe Rogan?

  I don't think they did.

• 46:05Speaker 01

  Oh, really?

• 46:06Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I think it's back. Or if it was deleted, it was pulled back up, the Nick Shirley thing.

• 46:10Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 46:10Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 46:11Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 46:11Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 46:12Speaker 01

  Well, good.

• 46:12Joe Rogan?

  Cause other people said, I found it. It's right here. So it might've just been a glitch.

• 46:16Speaker 01

  Right.

• 46:17Joe Rogan?

  Or it might've been they thought about deleting it and someone said, that's gonna make it worse.

• 46:21Speaker 01

  Exactly, exactly.

• 46:22Joe Rogan?

  It definitely makes it worse, but.

• 46:24Speaker 01

  But if it is true, I don't know if it all, it all is true with the fraud and everything, but I'm like, can we stop it? Can we get the money back? Can we help people who are paying taxes who are not getting anything out of it and it's all going to some guy in a cyber truck? Like, where's the redemption? Where's the comeuppance? So the...

• 46:43Joe Rogan?

  Well, this is the thing that Elon Musk told me about during the Doge stuff. He said, the biggest fraud in this country is Medicare fraud, Medicaid fraud. He's like, and that, if that gets, he goes like, I don't even wanna talk about it, cause I don't want them to kill me.

• 46:56Speaker 01

  Whoa.

• 46:56Joe Rogan?

  He literally said that. He's like, we're talking about hundreds of billions of dollars in fraud.

• 47:01Speaker 01

  But don't we have the worst healthcare or whatever?

• 47:03Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 47:03Speaker 01

  Huh.

• 47:04Joe Rogan?

  But it doesn't matter. It's not about actual healthcare. It's about using the system to extract money, pretending you have a daycare, pretending you have a hospice, pretending you have a this and a that, and really you're just lying about who's there and collecting checks from the government. Cause if you have a bunch of clients, like there was one place in Minneapolis that was saying they were feeding like 5,000 people a day. They never saw more than 40 people there. They investigated, like, this is just, they're just taking money.

• 47:31Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 47:31Joe Rogan?

  And they're getting millions and millions of dollars. It's crazy, but you gotta think, if this thing has been going on for so long, they probably have a whole system. No one's ever investigated it. It's been happening for over a decade. And they're just like, this is what we do, and they're all just cashing in.

• 47:48Speaker 01

  Yeah, but I don't know, like, my friend lives in Minneapolis. He's an old pal, and he's like, I've known Tim Walz my whole life. He was always the governor, and he's a nice guy. But then you see this shit, and you're like, so is he stupid, or is he corrupt?

• 48:01Joe Rogan?

  Well, you can know someone and think they're a nice guy, because they're a nice guy to you.

• 48:06Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 48:06Joe Rogan?

  You know what I mean?

• 48:07Speaker 01

  Right.

• 48:07Joe Rogan?

  Like, I know a lot of people, and people say, "That guy's a piece of shit." I'm like, huh, maybe. But to me, all I can judge is how he treats me, and how he talks to me. But he's gonna talk different to me than he's gonna talk to people that don't matter.

• 48:21Speaker 01

  Right.

• 48:21Joe Rogan?

  To him.

• 48:22Speaker 01

  Yeah, and you only know of his online.

• 48:24Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 48:25Speaker 01

  Perception.

• 48:26Joe Rogan?

  Tim Walz just seems weird. Like, it just, there's no humans that I know like that, that wave like that, that walk around like this. It's just not normal behavior.

• 48:36Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 48:37Joe Rogan?

  And he stopped his run for reelection.

• 48:40Speaker 01

  I saw that.

• 48:40Joe Rogan?

  Because of this Minneapolis fraud.

• 48:42Speaker 01

  Ooh.

• 48:42Joe Rogan?

  So there's something to it.

• 48:43Speaker 01

  But you just want some acknowledgement. You just want them to go like, "Jeez, that is crazy. Holy shit." But instead, it's like, "Shut it down. Don't listen to that guy."

• 48:50Joe Rogan?

  Exactly.

• 48:51Speaker 01

  I just, just, just stop making me feel crazy.

• 48:53Joe Rogan?

  You're not crazy. It's real. It's real. The, I mean, maybe Nick Shirley, ninety, maybe a hundred percent of it isn't fraudulent that he uncovered. Maybe some of it's legit, but there's definitely some fraud involved. And it's enough that you realize, like, this is, you're talking about enormous amounts of money.

• 49:11Speaker 01

  Right.

• 49:11Joe Rogan?

  And how long has this been going on?

• 49:13Speaker 01

  I know.

• 49:13Joe Rogan?

  And also, who's getting paid? Is anybody getting backdoor deals? Is there any offshore accounts that other people have access to?

• 49:20Speaker 01

  Exactly.

• 49:21Joe Rogan?

  And they're funneling money, and no one knows about it, and...

• 49:24Speaker 01

  Well, let's paper trail this shit and get to something. We don't make any arrests, like, all the Epstein guys are out there. In, in England and Norway, they, they popped a few guys.

• 49:32Joe Rogan?

  Well, that was what the Doge stuff was all about. That was the, the whole purpose for it all.

• 49:36Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 49:37Joe Rogan?

  The whole purpose for the Doge stuff was to try to uncover a lot of this stuff. And they found fucking tons of it, hundreds of billions of dollars in fraud. And what happened to those guys? Those guys are getting, you know, they're getting questioned now, and...

• 49:49Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 49:50Joe Rogan?

  And people are, you know, the guys, the Doge guys are, like, having to give testimony.

• 49:54Speaker 01

  Uh-huh.

• 49:55Joe Rogan?

  They're like, like, you know, "You shut down important government functions."

• 49:58Speaker 01

  Right, right.

• 49:58Joe Rogan?

  It's like, "Mm, actually, these fucking things, then, no, nothing was getting done, and these people are making enormous amounts of money."

• 50:04Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 50:05Joe Rogan?

  It's like, "Did you see that fucking bridge that they're building in California?"

• 50:08Speaker 01

  I did, the wildlife.

• 50:09Joe Rogan?

  With the mountain lions?

• 50:10Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 50:11Joe Rogan?

  It's over a hundred million dollars.

• 50:13Speaker 01

  I know.

• 50:13Joe Rogan?

  And they need more money.

• 50:14Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 50:15Joe Rogan?

  For a fucking bridge.

• 50:16Speaker 01

  I know.

• 50:17Joe Rogan?

  Meanwhile, Colorado built one, a similar one, for a fraction of the cost.

• 50:21Speaker 01

  I think it was five million.

• 50:22Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. A fraction of the cost.

• 50:24Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 50:24Joe Rogan?

  And completed it.

• 50:25Speaker 01

  Right.

• 50:26Joe Rogan?

  And it's done. And in California, like, we need more money to save the fox.

• 50:30Speaker 01

  Well, there's so many regulations that you can't, there's so much red tape, you can't get anywhere.

• 50:34Joe Rogan?

  It's a little bit of that, but they're blaming tariffs and the government, but shut up. Shut up.

• 50:39Speaker 01

  Tariffs.

• 50:40Joe Rogan?

  I doubt that's what it is. I doubt it's a hundred million dollars and you can't finish it because of tariffs. That don't make any sense.

• 50:46Speaker 01

  We're still waiting on the bullet train. That started 25 years ago.

• 50:49Joe Rogan?

  Well, that was billions.

• 50:50Speaker 01

  Billions?

• 50:51Joe Rogan?

  Billions.

• 50:51Speaker 01

  Still not done?

• 50:52Joe Rogan?

  Nothing.

• 50:53Speaker 01

  Meanwhile, Japan is whizzing all over the place at light speed.

• 50:56Joe Rogan?

  Have you ever seen, I think it's in China, there's one that they debuted, they showed in China, and it's just whizzing by these people and you get to see how fast it is in real time when you're standing next to it.

• 51:05Speaker 01

  No.

• 51:05Joe Rogan?

  It's bonkers, dude.

• 51:06Speaker 01

  Man.

• 51:07Joe Rogan?

  It's just shoo. And you just think, the problem with that is, how much track is there?

• 51:14Speaker 01

  Mmm.

• 51:14Joe Rogan?

  There's a lot of track.

• 51:15Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 51:15Joe Rogan?

  And how many psychos are out there that could just lay something on the track?

• 51:20Speaker 01

  Well, that's more American. They don't do that shit. Yeah, but someone can do it. They could, but they're Japanese. They're repressed. So they get it all out with those, those trains.

• 51:32Speaker 01

  Right? It's like Nick Shirley, he's a virgin. So he's, uh, he's motivated.

• 51:36Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that's weird, right?

• 51:37Speaker 01

  Yeah, this is a little weird, but I'd rather an incel do that shit than, uh, you know, shoot up a place.

• 51:43Joe Rogan?

  Well, there's a lot of these virgin influencers now.

• 51:45Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 51:46Joe Rogan?

  Nick Fuentes is a virgin, allegedly.

• 51:48Speaker 01

  Yeah, weird.

• 51:48Joe Rogan?

  This guy's a virgin.

• 51:50Speaker 01

  I don't trust, I don't know a lot of these virgins. That, that's, uh, feels unnatural. Don't get laid, you're young, you're, you're...

• 51:56Joe Rogan?

  It's very un-normal.

• 51:57Speaker 01

  Very, very strange.

• 51:58Joe Rogan?

  Very.

• 51:59Speaker 01

  It's like Zoran. I don't trust an Indian who never had a job.

• 52:01Joe Rogan?

  Nah. Is he Indian?

• 52:03Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 52:04Joe Rogan?

  Mamdani?

• 52:05Speaker 01

  I believe he's Indian.

• 52:06Joe Rogan?

  Is he?

• 52:06Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 52:07Joe Rogan?

  Is that what he is?

• 52:07Speaker 01

  I think he's from Africa, but he's, he is Indian.

• 52:10Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he's from Africa.

• 52:11Speaker 01

  But have you, you never had a job? Every Indian guy I know is the hardest working dude on the planet.

• 52:15Joe Rogan?

  He's never had a job at all?

• 52:17Speaker 01

  No. I think he was a rapper.

• 52:19Joe Rogan?

  M'Donny's never had a job?

• 52:21Speaker 01

  No, I don't believe so. This is his first gig.

• 52:23Joe Rogan?

  That's crazy.

• 52:24Speaker 01

  I know, it's-

• 52:25Joe Rogan?

  Imagine your first gig, you're the mayor of New York City. On one hand, super impressive.

• 52:30Speaker 01

  Very impressive.

• 52:30Joe Rogan?

  First gig. Way to go. This guy's, the sky's the limit for this guy.

• 52:34Speaker 01

  I know.

• 52:34Joe Rogan?

  His first job, he's the mayor.

• 52:36Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 52:36Joe Rogan?

  Of New York City.

• 52:37Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's like losing your virginity to, you know, Heidi Klum.

• 52:40Joe Rogan?

  But I think he won because he said he's not going to Israel.

• 52:45Speaker 01

  That was smart. And affordability.

• 52:47Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 52:47Speaker 01

  New York's so expensive.

• 52:48Joe Rogan?

  Well, also, yeah, people are like, we're tired of the rich- Well, the narrative is the rich people are causing all your problems. And we need to tax the rich people. But meanwhile, the rich people in New York are responsible for more than 50% of the taxes.

• 52:59Speaker 01

  Sure. Well, Hokel just said, please come back. Did you see that clip?

• 53:02Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, good luck.

• 53:02Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 53:03Joe Rogan?

  Good luck, good luck.

• 53:05Speaker 01

  And I think he seems like a nice guy. I think he's got good intentions, but it just, uh, you know, you need some experience and you need money. Cause he keeps saying free, free buses, free healthcare, free childcare, and you're like, stop saying free. That should be illegal. Cause someone has to pay for it.

• 53:19Joe Rogan?

  Right. There's nothing free.

• 53:21Speaker 01

  Nothing is free.

• 53:22Joe Rogan?

  You're just adding to the bureaucracy. You're adding to the government waste. You're adding to the possibility of fraud.

• 53:27Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 53:28Joe Rogan?

  While you're just releasing people on the, on the streets.

• 53:30Speaker 01

  Yeah, and I think, I have a theory that Muslim is cool. Muslim is like the new black. It's cool. Muslim's hip now. It's different. It's exotic. It's fun.

• 53:41Joe Rogan?

  I think they, the problem is people conflate Muslim and Islamist. And there's two very different things. I know a lot of Muslims. They're great people.

• 53:50Speaker 01

  Totally.

• 53:50Joe Rogan?

  But Islamists are people that want a global caliphate. And they want, you know, they want death to the infidels. This is the difference between Iran and like Saudi Arabia. Like Saudi Arabia are Muslims, the Iranians are Islamists.

• 54:04Speaker 01

  Right.

• 54:04Joe Rogan?

  Their state-sponsored terrorism, the whole deal.

• 54:07Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah. Well, any extreme, you know, like a Hasidic Jew versus, uh, Paul Rudd.

• 54:12Joe Rogan?

  Yes.

• 54:12Speaker 01

  You know, Paul Rudd's a fun guy, has a cocktail, he's a funny movie, and then a, a Hasidic Jew is like, alright, let me cut your foreskin off and suck the blood.

• 54:21Joe Rogan?

  Right. Give you herpes. Or these crazy fucking right-wing radical Christian nationalists-

• 54:28Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 54:28Joe Rogan?

  That think that we're supposed to be over in Israel so that Jesus can come back on a white horse. Have you seen that?

• 54:34Speaker 01

  Oh, no.

• 54:35Joe Rogan?

  Oh, Jamie, pull that story up that I sent you, or I could resend it to you if you want.

• 54:39Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 54:39Joe Rogan?

  There's a crazy story that was on Yahoo about this guy, who's a non-commissioned officer that went to a military debriefing. So it was like a, a, a, an operation readiness meeting, or a war meeting. And one of these fucking guys, one of these high-level commanders says, "Don't be worried, because Trump is anointed by Jesus Christ to bring back the return."

• 55:01Speaker 01

  Oh, no.

• 55:02Joe Rogan?

  "To bring back Jesus's return on earth." Commander claimed Trump was anointed by Jesus to cause Armageddon, to justify the Iran tax.

• 55:10Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 55:13Speaker 01

  See, that's like up there with Allah will protect me.

• 55:15Joe Rogan?

  Exactly.

• 55:16Speaker 01

  It's the same shit.

• 55:16Joe Rogan?

  It's the same shit. It's just coming from a different religion.

• 55:19Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah.

• 55:19Joe Rogan?

  But it's the same mindset. Like, look at what he said. Um, see what he said?

• 55:26Joe Rogan?

  Did you find the actual quote?

• 55:30Joe Rogan?

  "He urges to tell our troops, this is all part of God's divine plan, specifically referenced numerous citations out of the Book of Revelations, referring to Armageddon and the imminent return of Jesus Christ."

• 55:41Speaker 01

  Ay, ay, ay.

• 55:42Joe Rogan?

  And he said, added, "The superior had a big grin on his face when he said all of this, which made his message seem even more crazy."

• 55:48Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 55:49Joe Rogan?

  Bro.

• 55:50Speaker 01

  Scary shit.

• 55:51Joe Rogan?

  That's just as scary. Those are just as scary as suicide bombers. It's like, people that are like true believers in something that, you know, objectively sounds a lot like nonsense.

• 56:02Speaker 01

  I would say there's less blowing up shit.

• 56:04Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 56:04Speaker 01

  With the extreme, uh, Christian guy.

• 56:07Joe Rogan?

  Sure, because they won. Go back to the Inquisition.

• 56:09Speaker 01

  Oh, okay.

• 56:10Joe Rogan?

  When they were fucking torturing people.

• 56:11Speaker 01

  That's a good point.

• 56:12Joe Rogan?

  You know, people for, you know, for God's word, or for, you know, to, for God's service, in service of God, have done some wild shit.

• 56:21Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 56:21Joe Rogan?

  But it's just people. You know, it's just people, when they get into positions of radical belief, they just, they go nutty.

• 56:29Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's like a cult. The cult is just a microcosm of a full religion.

• 56:32Joe Rogan?

  Exactly.

• 56:33Speaker 01

  You know, it's just some crazy guy who's like, "I'm gonna fuck all of you, and then we'll drink Kool-Aid."

• 56:37Joe Rogan?

  I used to do a joke about it, where I said, "A cult is a thing where a guy creates it, and that guy knows it's bullshit." In a religion, that guy's dead.

• 56:49Speaker 01

  Wait a minute.

• 56:50Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 56:50Speaker 01

  Oh, I see.

• 56:52Joe Rogan?

  Religion, the guy who created it is dead.

• 56:54Speaker 01

  Right, right.

• 56:54Joe Rogan?

  So it's like, everybody just believes.

• 56:56Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 56:56Joe Rogan?

  But if, in a cult, you know, like David Koresh, or, you know, fill in the blank, the Moonies, whatever it is. Yeah, the Kool-Aid guy. Some guy created it, and he knew it's bullshit.

• 57:05Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 57:06Joe Rogan?

  Scientology, that guy is a science fiction author.

• 57:08Speaker 01

  Completely, L. Ron Hubbard.

• 57:10Joe Rogan?

  But now he's dead, so it's a religion.

• 57:11Speaker 01

  Ah.

• 57:12Joe Rogan?

  And they have tax-free exempt status.

• 57:14Speaker 01

  That's good.

• 57:15Joe Rogan?

  They're exempt from taxes.

• 57:17Speaker 01

  Is that right? Scientology. No.

• 57:19Joe Rogan?

  Yes.

• 57:19Speaker 01

  That's how they can afford all that real estate in LA.

• 57:21Joe Rogan?

  They have so much real estate.

• 57:22Speaker 01

  Crazy buildings.

• 57:23Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 57:24Speaker 01

  Right in downtown.

• 57:25Joe Rogan?

  And, that's the nuttiest thing about L. Ron Hubbard, is like, he's one of the worst authors of all time.

• 57:30Speaker 01

  Oh, he stinks.

• 57:31Joe Rogan?

  Terrible.

• 57:32Speaker 01

  And he's a weird-looking dude, and I think he beat his wife.

• 57:34Joe Rogan?

  Did he?

• 57:35Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, he was a troubled-

• 57:36Joe Rogan?

  You could say that, because he's dead.

• 57:38Speaker 01

  I watched a little documentary on him, he's a troubled individual.

• 57:41Joe Rogan?

  Well, he was definitely troubled, which is why he came up with Dianetics in the first place.

• 57:45Speaker 01

  Right.

• 57:45Joe Rogan?

  He was trying to self-diagnose, he was trying to fix his own brain.

• 57:48Speaker 01

  But it also shows how sad and sheep-like people are, because we're like, we need something. I need something to believe in, something to go for, I'll support you.

• 57:57Joe Rogan?

  Well, everybody's so lost, that anybody who comes along that confidently claims they have the answer, people just follow.

• 58:04Speaker 01

  Yep, every time.

• 58:06Joe Rogan?

  Very odd, it's like, I think it's programmed into us, just like, from the time that we were in tribes, and, you know, we had to count on the chief to be correct.

• 58:14Speaker 01

  Right.

• 58:15Joe Rogan?

  You know what I mean?

• 58:16Speaker 01

  But I'm sure you got some psychos who are up your ass.

• 58:19Joe Rogan?

  Who believe everything I say?

• 58:20Speaker 01

  Yeah, because you're so big, you got such a big, uh, umbrella.

• 58:24Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but I'm very clear that I don't know what I'm talking about.

• 58:27Speaker 01

  That's the key.

• 58:28Joe Rogan?

  And if I do, it's like, very specific things, so I'm like, I can tell you for sure that this is a fact.

• 58:33Speaker 01

  Right.

• 58:34Joe Rogan?

  You know, because, you know, I'm an expert in a few things, but other things, I'm like, you know, don't listen to me.

• 58:39Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 58:39Joe Rogan?

  But, this is what I think.

• 58:41Speaker 01

  Well, you're one of the few guys who will go, "Oh, you know what I said last week? I was wrong about that."

• 58:46Joe Rogan?

  You have to.

• 58:47Speaker 01

  Nobody does that.

• 58:48Joe Rogan?

  You gotta, well, because they're all, they all just want to be right all the time.

• 58:51Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 58:52Joe Rogan?

  And they all, they all connect their identity with being correct, about, whether it's COVID.

• 58:59Speaker 01

  Right.

• 58:59Joe Rogan?

  Like, COVID ruined a lot of people's credibility.

• 59:02Speaker 01

  Hundred percent.

• 59:02Joe Rogan?

  Because they were all in on the vaccine, all in on this, all in on the lockdowns, all in on the masks.

• 59:07Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 59:08Joe Rogan?

  And then, once it was revealed that all that stuff was bullshit, the vaccine didn't really prevent infection, didn't really, those people just never came out and said, "You know what, I was wrong."

• 59:17Speaker 01

  I know, and that would go so far, but nobody will do it. And, and then the right and the left, they both just want their side to win, so they're like, just.

• 59:24Joe Rogan?

  Exactly.

• 59:25Speaker 01

  It's like when the ball goes out of bounds on your team, you're like, I didn't see shit.

• 59:28Joe Rogan?

  Exactly.

• 59:29Speaker 01

  And then the other team's like, what are you crazy? We got video footage.

• 59:31Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's cheating.

• 59:33Speaker 01

  It's cheating.

• 59:33Joe Rogan?

  You're cheating in the game of discourse.

• 59:35Speaker 01

  Right, right.

• 59:36Joe Rogan?

  The game of discourse is, you're supposed to say what you really think, and then when you think something differently, you say, okay, I was wrong.

• 59:43Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 59:43Joe Rogan?

  You have to be able to say, I was misinformed. I thought it was this, but it's actually that.

• 59:48Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's why those videos are so fun when they go to a college campus, like, can you believe what this, Trump said this? And they go, that's racist, he's a piece of shit, and they go, actually, that was Biden. And then they go, oh, well, what are you gonna do? I got class in a minute, I gotta go.

• 1:00:02Joe Rogan?

  You don't vote for me, you ain't black.

• 1:00:04Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:00:05Joe Rogan?

  Remember that?

• 1:00:05Speaker 01

  He's got a couple N-words too, out there, by the way.

• 1:00:07Joe Rogan?

  Does he?

• 1:00:08Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, pull it up. Biden had a few.

• 1:00:11Joe Rogan?

  Well, remember when he, he called African-Americans super criminals, right?

• 1:00:15Speaker 01

  Whoa!

• 1:00:16Joe Rogan?

  Or super predators? That was during the 1994 crime bill, which is, he was really responsible for a lot of that.

• 1:00:22Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:00:22Joe Rogan?

  The 94 crime bill, and people forget about that, like, during the Clinton administration. Like, Clinton, in a lot of, Clinton was a great president.

• 1:00:31Speaker 01

  Yeah, sure.

• 1:00:32Joe Rogan?

  In terms of what he did, balanced the budget, great, got head in the office, but, you know, let it go.

• 1:00:37Speaker 01

  Oral office.

• 1:00:38Joe Rogan?

  Let it go.

• 1:00:39Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:00:40Joe Rogan?

  Let it go. But other than that, like, he did a lot of things that were really good, but one of the things that he did that wasn't really good was the 94 crime bill. So many people wind up going to jail for the rest of their lives.

• 1:00:52Speaker 01

  That's true.

• 1:00:52Joe Rogan?

  For that. They ruined so many families, so many lives lost.

• 1:00:56Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:00:56Joe Rogan?

  People that could have turned their life around, never got a chance, locked up forever.

• 1:01:00Speaker 01

  Yeah, and deported a lot of people, too.

• 1:01:02Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah, not as much as Biden. Oh, excuse me, not as much as Obama.

• 1:01:05Speaker 01

  Well, yeah, he was the king of that.

• 1:01:07Joe Rogan?

  Not only did Obama deport more people than Trump, they arrested more Americans accidentally.

• 1:01:14Speaker 01

  Really?

• 1:01:14Joe Rogan?

  Than Trump. Yeah, the percentage of Americans arrested was higher, and also the deaths were higher. Also, he had two terms.

• 1:01:22Speaker 01

  True.

• 1:01:22Joe Rogan?

  So you gotta think about that.

• 1:01:23Speaker 01

  True, yeah. But, nobody got shot in the street.

• 1:01:27Joe Rogan?

  What do you mean?

• 1:01:28Speaker 01

  Like his ICE didn't shoot anybody, that I know of.

• 1:01:31Joe Rogan?

  No, they did.

• 1:01:32Speaker 01

  Oh, come on!

• 1:01:33Joe Rogan?

  They did kill people. Yeah, they killed people.

• 1:01:35Speaker 01

  Civilians?

• 1:01:36Joe Rogan?

  Um, I don't know if it was civilians, or if it was actual illegals that they were trying to deport, but there was definitely a bunch of people that were killed. I wanna say it was somewhere in the range of thirty.

• 1:01:48Speaker 01

  Thirty?

• 1:01:49Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:50Speaker 01

  Well, no social media back then either.

• 1:01:52Joe Rogan?

  Right. That's big.

• 1:01:54Speaker 01

  Big.

• 1:01:54Joe Rogan?

  That changed everything. They could cover up everything back then.

• 1:01:57Speaker 01

  But wouldn't you like to talk to Obama and go, "Ah, come on, that was crazy," right?

• 1:02:01Joe Rogan?

  Well, Maren talked to Obama and he just kinda softballed him. You know, he just was like, he let Obama just kinda talk.

• 1:02:08Speaker 01

  Well...

• 1:02:09Joe Rogan?

  He did it recently. He did it twice, and both, both times it was kinda the same thing.

• 1:02:13Speaker 01

  But he is an icon, and he was a good president, and he seems like a cool guy.

• 1:02:17Joe Rogan?

  He was a very good statesman.

• 1:02:19Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:02:19Joe Rogan?

  Like, the way he talked was great, but he also said he was gonna protect whistleblowers, and he went back on all that. They even removed that part of the Hope and Change website.

• 1:02:29Speaker 01

  Whoa!

• 1:02:30Joe Rogan?

  The Hope and Change, his Hope and Change website when he was running for president was all about removing whistleblowers. So what does it say here? "No documented case of ICE agents directly killing anyone..."

• 1:02:39Speaker 01

  There you go.

• 1:02:40Joe Rogan?

  "...such as through shootings or excessive force during Obama's presidency. However, fifty-six individuals died in ICE custody over that period."

• 1:02:49Speaker 01

  Well, he did the cages.

• 1:02:50Joe Rogan?

  Okay, so that's how they died. So it wasn't shootings, primarily from medical issues, like, they had lead poisoning from bullets.

• 1:02:58Speaker 01

  What?

• 1:02:59Joe Rogan?

  Uh, inadequate care, or whoops, he hung himself in a two-foot cell.

• 1:03:03Speaker 01

  Ah.

• 1:03:04Joe Rogan?

  With reports highlighting substandard medical treatment contributing to at least eight cases between 2010 and 2012. Most custody deaths under Obama were attributed to natural causes, heart disease. Well, you definitely, you're dealing with a lot of people that snuck in.

• 1:03:19Speaker 01

  Mmm.

• 1:03:19Joe Rogan?

  Not suicides, hanging, or violence by agents.

• 1:03:22Speaker 01

  Uh-huh.

• 1:03:23Joe Rogan?

  Interesting.

• 1:03:24Speaker 01

  Interesting. And what's up with that wife dick?

• 1:03:29Speaker 01

  Just a little levity, folks?

• 1:03:31Joe Rogan?

  I wish that was true.

• 1:03:32Speaker 01

  I know, it's just a goof. Just a goof.

• 1:03:35Joe Rogan?

  I think the French one's true.

• 1:03:36Speaker 01

  The chef?

• 1:03:37Joe Rogan?

  No. Candace Owens, when she was saying that Macron's wife is a man?

• 1:03:43Speaker 01

  Come on.

• 1:03:43Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:03:44Speaker 01

  No way.

• 1:03:45Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:03:45Speaker 01

  I don't think so.

• 1:03:46Joe Rogan?

  I don't, I might be wrong.

• 1:03:47Speaker 01

  I mean, she's a little, uh...

• 1:03:49Joe Rogan?

  Something's odd.

• 1:03:49Speaker 01

  She's odd. She's a little transy.

• 1:03:52Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:03:52Speaker 01

  But I don't think...

• 1:03:53Joe Rogan?

  You ever see the way she sits?

• 1:03:54Speaker 01

  Pull it up? I have not.

• 1:03:56Joe Rogan?

  She sits like a dude.

• 1:03:57Speaker 01

  No. What, man spread?

• 1:03:58Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, man spread.

• 1:04:00Speaker 01

  Is that right?

• 1:04:01Joe Rogan?

  Odd alignment of the hips.

• 1:04:03Speaker 01

  Interesting.

• 1:04:04Joe Rogan?

  Seems very masculine. You know, that's why men sit like that. It's not because we're dicks. It's like your legs go out like that, whereas women's legs go inward.

• 1:04:12Speaker 01

  Sure.

• 1:04:13Joe Rogan?

  Because they have birthing hips, and the angle is different.

• 1:04:16Speaker 01

  I thought it was the ball bag. Well, I see.

• 1:04:19Joe Rogan?

  It's a little bit of it.

• 1:04:20Speaker 01

  Yeah, you're airing it out a little bit, whereas a woman has a clam, so she's, there's no, uh, resistance.

• 1:04:25Joe Rogan?

  Well, that's why you don't trust guys who sit like Ari. With that leg over the top, that cross-legged thing.

• 1:04:30Speaker 01

  Yeah, and ironically, he's got a huge bag.

• 1:04:32Joe Rogan?

  He's got a big bag and a big cock.

• 1:04:33Speaker 01

  Crazy Jew, shoo-hog on that guy.

• 1:04:38Joe Rogan?

  Little baby arm.

• 1:04:40Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:04:41Joe Rogan?

  Big old fucking sack.

• 1:04:42Speaker 01

  He's doing good.

• 1:04:43Joe Rogan?

  He's doing good down there. Watch how she sits. Boom.

• 1:04:46Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah. Yeah, wow.

• 1:04:48Joe Rogan?

  That's how a dude sits.

• 1:04:49Speaker 01

  That was a, that was a manly sit.

• 1:04:51Joe Rogan?

  Even the walk.

• 1:04:52Speaker 01

  I know.

• 1:04:53Joe Rogan?

  Even the stature, the skeletal frame, everything.

• 1:04:56Speaker 01

  Looks like John Denver.

• 1:04:56Joe Rogan?

  It looks like a guy with tits. Right? Boom. Look how it sits. But that's not the weirdest thing.

• 1:05:02Speaker 01

  Come on.

• 1:05:03Joe Rogan?

  The weirdest thing that everybody accepts, the fact that they started their relationship when she, air quotes, was 40, and he was like 14 or 15.

• 1:05:10Speaker 01

  That's crazy.

• 1:05:11Joe Rogan?

  That's crazy.

• 1:05:12Speaker 01

  If that was reverse, guy to girl, that would be a headline.

• 1:05:15Joe Rogan?

  Exactly.

• 1:05:16Speaker 01

  Big time.

• 1:05:17Joe Rogan?

  But it's French. It's in France, so they're like, "Ah, we are different in France."

• 1:05:21Speaker 01

  They're sexual people. They didn't fuck with me, too, in France. They were like, "No, no, we like being..."

• 1:05:26Joe Rogan?

  Because it would take the whole country down.

• 1:05:27Speaker 01

  Yeah. Yeah, that's true.

• 1:05:29Joe Rogan?

  Men and women, look, that's a woman supposedly.

• 1:05:32Speaker 01

  Italy too.

• 1:05:32Joe Rogan?

  Take her down, take them all down.

• 1:05:33Speaker 01

  Italy's like, we hit the ladies and we, we, we, we catcall, that's our thing.

• 1:05:37Joe Rogan?

  Oh, they're animals.

• 1:05:38Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:05:39Joe Rogan?

  I was in Rome with my kids in a taxi. It was just me and my kids and this fucking driver of the taxi stopped the car in the middle of an intersection to cat kale, catcall some lady.

• 1:05:52Speaker 01

  No way.

• 1:05:53Joe Rogan?

  Who had a big ass, who was walking across the street. He was, "Mama mia, mama mia, look at that ass." And he just kept driving. I was like, these people are animals.

• 1:06:01Speaker 01

  It's kinda charming with that voice, though.

• 1:06:03Joe Rogan?

  It is, but you gotta realize, like, if you're in Rome, these are the descendants of the people that were there when the Colosseum was running.

• 1:06:11Speaker 01

  Sure.

• 1:06:12Joe Rogan?

  These are the people that were there when the fucking Roman games, when Rome was conquering the world. Of course, they're savages.

• 1:06:17Speaker 01

  Right, right.

• 1:06:18Joe Rogan?

  Of course, they're the descendants of savage, direct descendants of the, some of the most savage people that ever walked the face of the earth.

• 1:06:25Speaker 01

  Yeah, those gladiators and shit.

• 1:06:26Joe Rogan?

  The Roman Empire.

• 1:06:27Speaker 01

  They fought lions.

• 1:06:28Joe Rogan?

  They took over everything.

• 1:06:30Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:06:30Joe Rogan?

  And then they, they got the Vatican right there, which is a weird

• 1:06:33Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:06:33Joe Rogan?

  Fucking country that's in the middle of their city.

• 1:06:36Speaker 01

  I think that's a good balance. They got crazy shit with the orgies, the wine, and then the gay stuff, and then they got the Vatican. That's, to me, that's kinda healthy.

• 1:06:43Joe Rogan?

  Jesus gives you a free pass, you just gotta say you're sorry.

• 1:06:45Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:06:46Joe Rogan?

  He's gotta confess.

• 1:06:47Speaker 01

  Best loophole of all time was that confession bullshit.

• 1:06:50Joe Rogan?

  I think they did that just to get information on people in the town.

• 1:06:53Speaker 01

  Ooh.

• 1:06:54Joe Rogan?

  Find out what they were doing.

• 1:06:55Speaker 01

  That's true.

• 1:06:55Joe Rogan?

  Like, hey, God says it's okay, you still go to heaven.

• 1:06:58Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:06:59Joe Rogan?

  Tell the priest, and the priest, like, immediately went and told the mayor.

• 1:07:02Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 1:07:04Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:07:04Speaker 01

  Inform it.

• 1:07:05Joe Rogan?

  A hundred percent.

• 1:07:06Speaker 01

  Never thought of it that way.

• 1:07:07Joe Rogan?

  Of course. How else would you get people to tell all the dirty shit that they're doing? All the crime they're committing?

• 1:07:13Speaker 01

  Oh, God.

• 1:07:13Joe Rogan?

  That's the way you get them.

• 1:07:14Speaker 01

  I went to Catholic school, I told those fuckers everything.

• 1:07:17Joe Rogan?

  Did you?

• 1:07:17Speaker 01

  I was in the box going, I jerked off to my aunt, she's got huge tits. I, I really went off in there, it was like a podcast.

• 1:07:24Joe Rogan?

  I never got to sit in one. I went to Catholic school only for one year.

• 1:07:27Speaker 01

  Hmm.

• 1:07:27Joe Rogan?

  When I was first grade.

• 1:07:29Speaker 01

  Did you make it out?

• 1:07:30Joe Rogan?

  Oh, I made it out and I was like, I'm never going back again. It's, it queered me off of religion forever.

• 1:07:35Speaker 01

  That's a weird term to go with.

• 1:07:36Joe Rogan?

  This is not real.

• 1:07:38Speaker 01

  Of course.

• 1:07:38Joe Rogan?

  This lady, I don't remember anybody's name from the time when I was six, but Sister Mary Josephine. I'll remember that cunt till the day I die.

• 1:07:45Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:07:46Joe Rogan?

  She was so mean, and I was so confused, because I had only been with my mom and my dad and my grandparents, who were all nice to me.

• 1:07:55Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:07:55Joe Rogan?

  I'd never been around anybody mean to me.

• 1:07:57Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:07:58Joe Rogan?

  And then all of a sudden, I'm around this vicious bitch.

• 1:08:01Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:08:01Joe Rogan?

  Who's supposed to be like the person of God.

• 1:08:03Speaker 01

  Exactly, but they'd rap your knuckles. I think they were all repressed or something.

• 1:08:07Joe Rogan?

  Oh, 100%.

• 1:08:08Speaker 01

  They needed some vitamin D.

• 1:08:09Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, get that dick.

• 1:08:11Speaker 01

  Get the crucifix in there.

• 1:08:12Joe Rogan?

  That's a crazy rule, too. You can't fuck. And you know why they came up with that rule?

• 1:08:16Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:08:16Joe Rogan?

  Because all the priests were fucking everybody, because they were the rock stars.

• 1:08:19Speaker 01

  Whoa.

• 1:08:20Joe Rogan?

  They were the guy who talks to Jesus. He's the guy on stage.

• 1:08:24Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:08:24Joe Rogan?

  The guy on stage, "Hommel is hommel along now." And he's just, "Look, get a more." And then they decided, hey, you can't fuck if you want to be a priest.

• 1:08:32Speaker 01

  But then they went to kids.

• 1:08:34Joe Rogan?

  Of course, that's what happens. You're only going to get gay guys or pedophiles who are interested in that.

• 1:08:38Speaker 01

  Uh huh.

• 1:08:38Joe Rogan?

  The gay guys fuck each other, the pedophiles try to get the kids.

• 1:08:41Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:08:41Joe Rogan?

  Because you get isolated time with the kids.

• 1:08:43Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:08:44Joe Rogan?

  Like teachers. Like, how many teachers get caught? One of my kid's schools, they just busted a guy.

• 1:08:49Speaker 01

  Get the fuck out of here.

• 1:08:50Joe Rogan?

  Back in Calabasas.

• 1:08:51Speaker 01

  Whoa.

• 1:08:52Joe Rogan?

  Viewpoint. My kid went and took this guy's classes for, I think, two or three years.

• 1:08:57Speaker 01

  What?

• 1:08:58Joe Rogan?

  Yep. He was taking up skirts photos, inappropriate photos, was jerking off to them, admitted that the photos made his heart race and seeing these kids. Full-on pedophile, was a part of this, like, very nice, private school.

• 1:09:13Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:09:14Joe Rogan?

  For, I think he was there for six or seven years.

• 1:09:16Speaker 01

  Did you meet him?

• 1:09:17Joe Rogan?

  I must have.

• 1:09:18Speaker 01

  Oh, my lord. You shook this guy's hand.

• 1:09:20Joe Rogan?

  I must have. He was my kid's teacher. I must have met him. I don't remember him.

• 1:09:24Speaker 01

  You got daughters.

• 1:09:25Joe Rogan?

  Uh huh.

• 1:09:26Speaker 01

  Oh, mama.

• 1:09:28Joe Rogan?

  Luckily, nothing happened then, but they remember he talked too much.

• 1:09:31Speaker 01

  Ah, interesting.

• 1:09:31Joe Rogan?

  My daughter said he just kept, he just wouldn't shut the fuck up. He talked too much.

• 1:09:35Speaker 01

  Spitting game.

• 1:09:36Joe Rogan?

  Ah.

• 1:09:38Speaker 01

  Well, what about these Florida whores who keep banging the students? There's something, there's like an epidemic going on.

• 1:09:43Joe Rogan?

  Give them a pass.

• 1:09:43Speaker 01

  I mean, look, I'm not knocking it, but, uh...

• 1:09:46Joe Rogan?

  That's different.

• 1:09:46Speaker 01

  I think that beats priests now.

• 1:09:48Joe Rogan?

  It's only okay if they're hot.

• 1:09:50Speaker 01

  Sure, but they, they, some of them are like, damn, I'd fuck her.

• 1:09:53Joe Rogan?

  Exactly. Those are okay.

• 1:09:55Speaker 01

  I don't know about okay.

• 1:09:56Joe Rogan?

  But if it's some big troll looking lady with no neck. Her chin starts at her, her neck goes straight down to her chest. Some Jabba the Hutt looking beast, you'd be like, you monster. What'd you do to that boy? But if it's some blonde lady with big tits and glassy eyes, like, eh, she's probably on SSRIs. Didn't know what she was doing.

• 1:10:15Speaker 01

  Sure, and maybe like the husband can't get it up and this, cause a virile fourteen year old basketball player or something.

• 1:10:21Joe Rogan?

  How about that lady who was a mayor? She was a mayor at some town in like Louisiana and she was fucking some sixteen year old.

• 1:10:28Speaker 01

  That was crazy. And they show the husband all over the news. I'm like, this poor fucking guy, what a cuck.

• 1:10:34Joe Rogan?

  Fucking guy. Fucking wife is getting banged by a high school basketball player.

• 1:10:39Speaker 01

  And she was pretty.

• 1:10:40Joe Rogan?

  She was not.

• 1:10:40Speaker 01

  Very pretty.

• 1:10:41Joe Rogan?

  Kinda milfy.

• 1:10:42Speaker 01

  Kinda milfy, for sure, but that's the thing, I have a bit about it. They never show the kid. I wanna see that kid. What's he, is he some kinda young stud?

• 1:10:50Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, a lot of them are. You just can't see him because they're in a, it's inappropriate. Underage and they're victims.

• 1:10:56Speaker 01

  Well, of course.

• 1:10:57Joe Rogan?

  You ever hear Zach Galifianakis' joke?

• 1:10:59Speaker 01

  I died of high fiving?

• 1:11:02Speaker 01

  That's a great joke.

• 1:11:02Joe Rogan?

  Great joke.

• 1:11:03Speaker 01

  He was a great joke writer.

• 1:11:04Joe Rogan?

  Oh, he's a great comic.

• 1:11:06Speaker 01

  Great comic.

• 1:11:06Joe Rogan?

  Live from the, the, um.

• 1:11:08Speaker 01

  Purple Onion.

• 1:11:09Joe Rogan?

  Purple Onion, yeah. Great fucking special.

• 1:11:11Speaker 01

  Great special. He had that thing where he'd get fake angry and play the piano.

• 1:11:14Joe Rogan?

  He's a good dude, too.

• 1:11:16Speaker 01

  Good guy.

• 1:11:17Joe Rogan?

  He's a really good dude. Like, every time I've had interactions with him, I'm like, this is a so, he's like not Hollywood at all.

• 1:11:23Speaker 01

  No, no, he's a South Carolina guy.

• 1:11:25Joe Rogan?

  Bought a farm. Lives on a farm now, yeah. I mean, he barely works. He just kinda, kinda lives his life.

• 1:11:32Speaker 01

  I mean, he's kind of a phenom. His standup was good and then he just like, you know, Todd Phillips fought for him in The Hangover? They're like, we don't know this fucking guy, he's a nobody. And he's like, I'm telling you, this guy's good. And he, he stole the movie.

• 1:11:43Joe Rogan?

  Stole the movie, yeah. No, he's a great comic. And that Between Two Ferns thing? Amazing, amazing.

• 1:11:49Speaker 01

  Brilliant.

• 1:11:49Joe Rogan?

  No, he's great, man.

• 1:11:50Speaker 01

  Yeah, he just gets you on, uh, he got Seinfeld on, he's trashing him, he's trashing, uh, Paul Rudd, he's got like, uh, all these, uh, it's great.

• 1:11:58Joe Rogan?

  He was a, a, a great friend to Brody, too.

• 1:12:00Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:12:01Joe Rogan?

  When Brody was going through one of his, uh, moments where he got off medication and he got a little crazy. And we started noticing it at the store, like, instead of being funny, he was on stage, he would actually get angry, it was like really weird. And he came back, but for, there was a while where he was like really lost it and Zach reached out and he's like, don't interact with him. We're trying to get him treatment, we're trying to get him back on his meds, like, he's, he went off his meds.

• 1:12:25Speaker 01

  I love it.

• 1:12:26Joe Rogan?

  He's a good dude.

• 1:12:26Speaker 01

  Good dude.

• 1:12:27Joe Rogan?

  Solid dude.

• 1:12:28Speaker 01

  There's a video on YouTube. Yeah, they're out there.

• 1:12:30Joe Rogan?

  Solid, solid people are out there.

• 1:12:31Speaker 01

  He's a normal guy and you could tell these Holly, I feel like Hollywood is like COVID where it fucks your brain up eventually. And he got out and moved to a farm.

• 1:12:39Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:12:39Speaker 01

  So that's how you know he's sane.

• 1:12:41Joe Rogan?

  But there's people that are in Hollywood that stay solid. Like, when I had Matt Damon and Ben Affleck on, I was like, I'd be friends with these guys.

• 1:12:48Speaker 01

  Yeah, I listened to that one.

• 1:12:49Joe Rogan?

  They're normal, off, off the mic.

• 1:12:52Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:12:52Joe Rogan?

  On the mic, they're cool.

• 1:12:54Speaker 01

  They're cool over there in the, in the lobby?

• 1:12:56Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, they're regular, they talk to everybody, like, I've met Matt Damon a few times.

• 1:12:59Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:13:00Joe Rogan?

  I actually ran into him in Italy, it was really crazy, in a restaurant where he was sitting below a photo of him.

• 1:13:06Speaker 01

  Oh, weird.

• 1:13:07Joe Rogan?

  Cause there's photos of all these celebrities that come and eat at this place.

• 1:13:10Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:13:11Joe Rogan?

  And he was one of them, and he was there, and he was sitting there, like, and then I wa, I had met him before, so I, I go, hey, Matt. I go, he's like, oh, what's up? I was like, but he's cool, he's normal, he's like a regular guy.

• 1:13:22Speaker 01

  Well, he hit the lottery with that script.

• 1:13:24Joe Rogan?

  I know, right?

• 1:13:25Speaker 01

  Yeah, and they're both like good looking, they're nice, they're cool.

• 1:13:29Joe Rogan?

  They're smart.

• 1:13:29Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:13:30Joe Rogan?

  They're really, like, Ben Affleck is underrated intelligence, like, when he was talking about AI and what AI is actually promising versus what they're actually capable of, what they're really trying to do is increase their market cap and get more money invested, I'm like, oh, clever.

• 1:13:45Speaker 01

  Clever, and I think he sold, signed some deal with them for millions and like changed the game with Netflix. Big time.

• 1:13:52Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:13:53Speaker 03

  It's a fucking giant, giant deal.

• 1:13:55Speaker 01

  Big deal.

• 1:13:56Joe Rogan?

  That for?

• 1:13:56Speaker 03

  It was up to six hundred million dollars, I said.

• 1:13:58Joe Rogan?

  Was that for the rip?

• 1:13:59Speaker 03

  No, no, no, no, no, no, no, he sold an AI company.

• 1:14:01Joe Rogan?

  Oh.

• 1:14:02Speaker 03

  That's why he knows so much about it.

• 1:14:03Joe Rogan?

  Oh, that makes sense.

• 1:14:04Speaker 01

  He kinda broke it down on here and then like two weeks later, he sold it.

• 1:14:07Joe Rogan?

  That makes sense.

• 1:14:08Speaker 01

  He's ahead of the curve, that guy.

• 1:14:10Joe Rogan?

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• 1:15:37Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, both of those guys are good, and they've stayed friends forever.

• 1:15:40Speaker 01

  And banging J-Lo for that many years has got a...

• 1:15:43Joe Rogan?

  He gave it his best.

• 1:15:44Speaker 01

  I mean...

• 1:15:45Joe Rogan?

  Tried to tame that horse.

• 1:15:46Speaker 01

  She sucks.

• 1:15:49Speaker 01

  She's quite a Clydesdale.

• 1:15:50Joe Rogan?

  Oh, I bet she's so fun, though.

• 1:15:51Speaker 01

  Yeah, but I think she's a malignant narcissist.

• 1:15:54Joe Rogan?

  Duh.

• 1:15:58Joe Rogan?

  But, by the way, that's the only way you stay that hot when you're 80 years old.

• 1:16:01Speaker 01

  Smoke show.

• 1:16:02Joe Rogan?

  She's a smoke show.

• 1:16:03Speaker 01

  Yeah, that rump is, uh...

• 1:16:05Joe Rogan?

  She could completely be a granny.

• 1:16:07Speaker 01

  I know.

• 1:16:07Joe Rogan?

  And she looks fucking amazing.

• 1:16:08Speaker 01

  I want to put a blue ribbon on that heiny.

• 1:16:10Joe Rogan?

  You gotta be a narcissist to keep that up.

• 1:16:13Speaker 01

  I guess so.

• 1:16:13Joe Rogan?

  I mean, the skin, her skin's perfect.

• 1:16:15Speaker 01

  Everything.

• 1:16:16Joe Rogan?

  How's this, and it doesn't look crazy, like filler?

• 1:16:18Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:16:19Joe Rogan?

  Nutty, it just looks like pure.

• 1:16:21Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:16:21Joe Rogan?

  Like, she's just not aging.

• 1:16:22Speaker 01

  I know.

• 1:16:23Joe Rogan?

  Nuts.

• 1:16:24Speaker 01

  That's the Puerto Rican blood, I guess.

• 1:16:26Joe Rogan?

  And maybe it's that, it's good genetics, for sure, but it's also just upkeep and care and aware, being aware of what you look like and taking care of yourself.

• 1:16:34Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:16:35Joe Rogan?

  Like, I saw, um, one of those Instagram things where they showed people from like the eighties, how old they were.

• 1:16:40Speaker 01

  Yes, I've seen that.

• 1:16:41Joe Rogan?

  Like Archie Bunker. Archie Bunker, when he was playing Archie Bunker, when Ed O'Connell was playing Gard... He's ten years younger than me.

• 1:16:47Speaker 01

  Carol O'Connor.

• 1:16:48Joe Rogan?

  Carol O'Connor, that's right. He was ten years younger than me now.

• 1:16:51Speaker 01

  Whoa.

• 1:16:52Joe Rogan?

  Right?

• 1:16:53Speaker 01

  I think they did a Cocoon one with Paul Rudd and, uh, Ed Brimley.

• 1:16:56Joe Rogan?

  Yes.

• 1:16:57Speaker 01

  Same age.

• 1:16:58Joe Rogan?

  He was like forty-eight.

• 1:16:59Speaker 01

  Forty-eight! You know, Mrs. Robinson was thirty-nine?

• 1:17:02Joe Rogan?

  What?

• 1:17:02Speaker 01

  Thirty-nine in The Graduate, and she's like the old bag.

• 1:17:06Joe Rogan?

  That's crazy.

• 1:17:07Speaker 01

  Thirty-nine! Now they got thirty-nine-year-olds walking on Sixth Street who look like, uh, you know, Cindy Crawford.

• 1:17:13Joe Rogan?

  Right, they're hot.

• 1:17:14Speaker 01

  I gotta update my hot women. Megan Fox. There you go. Stuck in the nineties.

• 1:17:18Joe Rogan?

  Ah. Yeah, it's odd, man.

• 1:17:22Speaker 01

  Yeah. Look at that!

• 1:17:24Joe Rogan?

  She looked thirty-nine.

• 1:17:25Speaker 01

  I guess so.

• 1:17:26Joe Rogan?

  Like, thirty-nine in the eighties.

• 1:17:27Speaker 01

  That's Mel Brooks's wife, you know?

• 1:17:29Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that, that's what thirty-nine looked like. That looks like sixty now.

• 1:17:31Speaker 01

  I think she's pretty sexy.

• 1:17:33Joe Rogan?

  Not bad.

• 1:17:34Speaker 01

  Look at that!

• 1:17:35Joe Rogan?

  Not bad. Especially for someone who never went to the gym. Like, ladies, they didn't do nothing back then. They went, they walked.

• 1:17:41Speaker 01

  Well, and the dudes, too, could be completely no definition and still be like a leading man.

• 1:17:46Joe Rogan?

  Right. The only one who was like really ripped back then was Charles Bronson.

• 1:17:50Speaker 01

  Wow, yeah.

• 1:17:50Joe Rogan?

  That motherfucker.

• 1:17:51Speaker 01

  Action star.

• 1:17:52Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but he was, I mean, even before he was an action star, like, that guy was just fit.

• 1:17:56Speaker 01

  Fit, he like wiry.

• 1:17:58Joe Rogan?

  You know when he did Hard Times, that movie?

• 1:18:00Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:18:00Joe Rogan?

  He was fifty.

• 1:18:01Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:18:02Joe Rogan?

  Yes.

• 1:18:02Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 1:18:03Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:18:04Speaker 01

  That's impressive.

• 1:18:04Joe Rogan?

  Shredded.

• 1:18:05Speaker 01

  Well, all these, uh, Liam Neeson. Liam Neeson's old and, uh, taken.

• 1:18:08Speaker 03

  I was looking this up, the Golden Girls were all playing like ten years younger than what they were.

• 1:18:12Speaker 01

  Wow!

• 1:18:13Joe Rogan?

  That's nuts, that's nuts.

• 1:18:16Speaker 01

  Fifty-three!

• 1:18:17Joe Rogan?

  They were playing seventy-nine, she was sixty-two, she was playing fifty-three, but she was sixty-three? Oh, wow.

• 1:18:24Speaker 01

  Wow, that was a great show.

• 1:18:26Joe Rogan?

  She's playing fifty-three and she's fifty-two. The, the one lady, that's crazy.

• 1:18:30Speaker 01

  Bea Arthur, Rue McClanahan.

• 1:18:31Joe Rogan?

  Wow.

• 1:18:32Speaker 01

  Betty White.

• 1:18:33Joe Rogan?

  And is Betty White still alive?

• 1:18:34Speaker 01

  Nah, she kicked it.

• 1:18:36Joe Rogan?

  How old was she?

• 1:18:37Speaker 01

  I don't know, but Keith Richards beat her.

• 1:18:40Joe Rogan?

  Guy.

• 1:18:41Speaker 01

  Ah, how? He's like J Lo. He's the male J Lo.

• 1:18:44Joe Rogan?

  I saw the Stones at, uh, Circuit of the Americas.

• 1:18:46Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:18:47Joe Rogan?

  Couple of years ago. Fucking incredible.

• 1:18:49Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:18:49Joe Rogan?

  He's still shreds.

• 1:18:51Speaker 01

  I know, both of them. Jagger's out there.

• 1:18:53Joe Rogan?

  Just dancing around. Like, Jagger's not like standing still. Like, have you seen? It was one of those old guys who was in Vegas. Like, one of them guys from like the fucking sixties.

• 1:19:03Speaker 01

  Like a Wayne Newton type?

• 1:19:05Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, what is his name?

• 1:19:07Speaker 01

  Frankie Valli.

• 1:19:07Joe Rogan?

  Frankie Valli.

• 1:19:08Speaker 01

  Oh, Valli.

• 1:19:09Joe Rogan?

  Bro, it's like all lip syncing and he can't move his lips anymore.

• 1:19:12Speaker 01

  Yeah, I believe it.

• 1:19:13Joe Rogan?

  And he looks like a statue.

• 1:19:14Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:19:15Joe Rogan?

  It's odd.

• 1:19:16Speaker 01

  That is odd, yeah. Those guys gotta hang it up.

• 1:19:18Joe Rogan?

  Meanwhile, Mick Jagger's button your lip, baby. Dancing, moving around. I mean, like, and they did a ninety minute show.

• 1:19:26Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 1:19:26Joe Rogan?

  Cranking it.

• 1:19:27Speaker 01

  He's gotta be on peptides or something.

• 1:19:28Joe Rogan?

  Look at this guy.

• 1:19:29Speaker 01

  Oh, this guy's dead in the water.

• 1:19:30Joe Rogan?

  Let me hear some of this.

• 1:19:33Speaker 01

  This is like Mitch McConnell. I mean, he's just stiff.

• 1:19:35Joe Rogan?

  But he's like a board.

• 1:19:37Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:19:37Joe Rogan?

  You got any volume on this bitch?

• 1:19:38Speaker 01

  Poor bastard.

• 1:19:39Joe Rogan?

  Here we go. Oh.

• 1:19:41Speaker 01

  Well, hats off to still go out there.

• 1:19:43Joe Rogan?

  Probably has to.

• 1:19:45Speaker 01

  He's got debt?

• 1:19:46Joe Rogan?

  Have you seen Barry Manilow?

• 1:19:48Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:19:48Joe Rogan?

  Ooh.

• 1:19:49Speaker 01

  Rough?

• 1:19:49Joe Rogan?

  Weird.

• 1:19:50Speaker 01

  Really?

• 1:19:51Joe Rogan?

  Go to Barry Manilow's Instagram. He sings, but he's got like filler and it looks like his chin's disappearing.

• 1:20:00Speaker 01

  Ooh.

• 1:20:01Joe Rogan?

  And I don't know how old he is, but he's not that old. Like, look at this.

• 1:20:05Speaker 01

  Oh, they start to look trans.

• 1:20:09Speaker 01

  God, this is weird. It's like an animatronic. It's Chuck E. Cheese.

• 1:20:13Joe Rogan?

  Right. That's what it's like.

• 1:20:16Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 1:20:17Joe Rogan?

  But that's not even a weird one. Go to his, uh, his, the one on the far right, right there. Click on that one.

• 1:20:22Speaker 01

  Whoa.

• 1:20:23Joe Rogan?

  Listen to him talk.

• 1:20:26Speaker 01

  He's like Kermit the Frog.

• 1:20:28Joe Rogan?

  Look at his hair.

• 1:20:30Speaker 01

  That's all fake.

• 1:20:30Joe Rogan?

  Is there any chance? How much would you bet that that's a wig? Everything I own.

• 1:20:34Speaker 01

  It's all fake. Everything's fake.

• 1:20:35Joe Rogan?

  Everything. But the, the face is like, guy, let yourself just age. Don't do the filler and the boat. No, this is when he was younger.

• 1:20:43Speaker 01

  Yeah, he's a handsome guy.

• 1:20:44Joe Rogan?

  This looks good. This looks legit. I mean, it just, when they start pumping stuff into their cheeks, it's just like, look at you got stung by bees. It's just weird.

• 1:20:55Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's weird.

• 1:20:56Joe Rogan?

  It's a weird look.

• 1:20:57Speaker 01

  We all know, just, what do you do, it looks weirder, it's worse, just age.

• 1:21:02Joe Rogan?

  I know.

• 1:21:02Speaker 01

  We like age.

• 1:21:03Joe Rogan?

  With women, it gets really strange, because there's a thing that bodybuilders get and anorexics get, body dysmorphia. Well, you can't see yourself the way other people see you.

• 1:21:13Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:21:14Joe Rogan?

  So you don't realize that it's weird that your cheeks are that big.

• 1:21:17Speaker 01

  Yeah, is that what it is?

• 1:21:19Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:21:19Speaker 01

  Well, you know when you're drawing something and you're painting and you're like, alright, it's done, I'll add a little more. I'll add a little more, and then before you know it, you ruined it.

• 1:21:26Joe Rogan?

  Well, you get obsessed with the little minutia, and you're just focusing on weird parts of your face.

• 1:21:32Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:21:32Joe Rogan?

  Maybe you got a weird little smile line right here, and you don't like it, and you're like, fill it in, like, eh. It swells up, you're like, good.

• 1:21:39Speaker 01

  Yeah, and they get used to it. We see them after eight months, and you're like, good god.

• 1:21:44Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:21:44Speaker 01

  But they're just gradual.

• 1:21:46Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:21:46Speaker 01

  So they don't realize how crazy.

• 1:21:47Joe Rogan?

  Didn't Ryan Gosling, isn't, aren't people accusing him of getting a bunch of stuff in his face now, too? Like, there was some photos of him on a red carpet, it looked real weird.

• 1:21:56Speaker 01

  I get the hair implants.

• 1:21:57Joe Rogan?

  I get it.

• 1:21:58Speaker 01

  Do that all day, but as a dude, you can age. We're alright, we look Jason Statham and all these guys, and they look fine.

• 1:22:05Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, let it go.

• 1:22:06Speaker 01

  Let it go.

• 1:22:07Joe Rogan?

  Don't do the filler thing. It's just, you're changing the shape of your face. It's also, there's a, there's a ratio. The golden ratio of your face, like, when you do something weird to your face, it throws people off.

• 1:22:19Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:22:20Joe Rogan?

  You're, the width of your face, and the closeness of your eyes, the size of your nose, all of it fits within a certain ratio.

• 1:22:27Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:22:28Joe Rogan?

  And when that ratio's off, like, when you have a really thin face but a small nose, everybody's like, hey.

• 1:22:33Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:22:33Joe Rogan?

  Where's that Ari nose? I need to see that big old beak that makes sense with this shape.

• 1:22:38Speaker 01

  We like it, I mean, look at Jennifer Grey, she cut her nose off.

• 1:22:42Joe Rogan?

  Lost her career.

• 1:22:42Speaker 01

  Lost her career, and she was a cute, you know, little.

• 1:22:45Joe Rogan?

  She was cute.

• 1:22:45Speaker 01

  Ju- broad.

• 1:22:46Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, she had a big nose, like, so what, she was beautiful.

• 1:22:48Speaker 01

  Beautiful.

• 1:22:49Joe Rogan?

  It takes, you don't have to, like, be perfect. Perfect ain't the way to go.

• 1:22:53Speaker 01

  Look at Bill Murray, that guy looks like an old fart.

• 1:22:56Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:22:56Speaker 01

  I mean, he looks crazy, but it's Bill Murray.

• 1:22:59Joe Rogan?

  He's a cool guy.

• 1:23:00Speaker 01

  I love Bill. He's my childhood hero.

• 1:23:01Joe Rogan?

  I really enjoyed talking to him.

• 1:23:03Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, you had Bill on.

• 1:23:04Joe Rogan?

  He was a, he was a good one.

• 1:23:05Speaker 01

  That must have been pretty nerve wracking for you, huh?

• 1:23:07Joe Rogan?

  No, no, it was cool. He was real easy. It wasn't nerve wracking. He was a little like nuts when you first meet him. But he had no idea who I was.

• 1:23:16Speaker 01

  Whoa.

• 1:23:16Joe Rogan?

  He doesn't watch podcasts.

• 1:23:17Speaker 01

  Really?

• 1:23:18Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he had heard of me. He's like, you're Joe? I'm like, yeah. Like, it wasn't bullshitting like some Hollywood people do. I'm sorry, your name is?

• 1:23:24Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:23:25Joe Rogan?

  He wasn't doing that. He's not, not online, doesn't have a phone. He said he had to get a phone to talk to his kids.

• 1:23:30Speaker 01

  Whoa, man.

• 1:23:33Joe Rogan?

  You know what else doesn't have a phone? Woody. Woody Harrelson?

• 1:23:35Speaker 01

  Really?

• 1:23:36Joe Rogan?

  You gotta get a hold of him, you gotta go through his wife.

• 1:23:38Speaker 01

  Damn, sucks for the wife, though.

• 1:23:40Joe Rogan?

  He's happy. He's like, leave me out of everything.

• 1:23:43Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:23:44Joe Rogan?

  You, you can't get a hold of him through email. Leave me out of it.

• 1:23:48Speaker 01

  He seems interesting. I remember that SNL he did?

• 1:23:50Joe Rogan?

  He's great.

• 1:23:50Speaker 01

  Where he just outed COVID shit?

• 1:23:52Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:23:52Speaker 01

  That was interesting.

• 1:23:53Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he's great.

• 1:23:55Speaker 01

  I saw him at Kill Tony once.

• 1:23:56Joe Rogan?

  He hangs out at the club all the time.

• 1:23:57Speaker 01

  Really?

• 1:23:58Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he's in the green room all the time. But he like hangs out normal. Like, talks to everybody, doesn't big time anybody. Like, he's talking to door guys, he's talking to fucking everybody, normal.

• 1:24:08Speaker 01

  Damn.

• 1:24:09Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he's cool.

• 1:24:10Speaker 01

  Cool dude. I mean, White Men Can't Jump is one of my favorites.

• 1:24:13Joe Rogan?

  He's awesome. He's just, he's real. Like, that guy's a real, I've hung out with him multiple times now. I really enjoy talking to him. There's a few of those guys. They make it through and they're still cool, but one thing that a lot of them have in common is they stay out of

• 1:24:26Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:24:27Joe Rogan?

  like, social media, they stay offline. They just live. They just live.

• 1:24:31Speaker 01

  Yeah, well, I was

• 1:24:32Joe Rogan?

  Also, he's in the cloud. You meaning?

• 1:24:36Speaker 01

  He's a pothead.

• 1:24:37Joe Rogan?

  All day. He's like, those rappers, they call it living in the cloud.

• 1:24:41Speaker 01

  I've never heard that.

• 1:24:42Joe Rogan?

  They're never not high.

• 1:24:43Speaker 01

  Like a Lil Wayne or something?

• 1:24:45Joe Rogan?

  They're high all day. Constantly high.

• 1:24:50Speaker 01

  I don't know how they do that shit.

• 1:24:51Joe Rogan?

  I don't know how they do that shit either.

• 1:24:53Speaker 01

  Like, those people just wake and bake and then go out and do stuff? And then they just keep smoking? I mean, there's comics in the green room in New York who'll just smoke weed for like three hours and then go on, then do another set, and they hang out. I'm like, if I smoked weed for three hours, I'd be crying in a fetal position. It's insane.

• 1:25:09Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I wouldn't be getting anything done.

• 1:25:11Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:25:11Joe Rogan?

  You'd be so locked in your own head, thinking about the world. But I think people's mental chemistry is different. For some people, I think weed is like a legitimate medicine. It keeps them together.

• 1:25:22Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:25:22Joe Rogan?

  And they're not hurting anybody.

• 1:25:24Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:25:25Joe Rogan?

  Why is it okay to be on SSRIs and OxyContin, but it's not okay to just live in the cloud?

• 1:25:30Speaker 01

  It's a good point.

• 1:25:31Joe Rogan?

  Let a man.

• 1:25:32Speaker 01

  They're medicating in a little bit.

• 1:25:34Joe Rogan?

  A hundred percent.

• 1:25:34Speaker 01

  I mean, that's what I was doing with alcohol as a teenager. I was so anxious and nervous and I wanted to fit in, I would just drink for like social lube.

• 1:25:40Joe Rogan?

  Most teenagers are doing that for that same reason. They want to be able to go to a party and relax.

• 1:25:45Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:25:45Joe Rogan?

  And not feel like everybody hates them, or isolated, or weird, or who's judging me, just wee.

• 1:25:52Speaker 01

  Yeah, like my nephew, he's sixteen, never drank, and he's a virgin, he's got no friends, he plays video games all day, and he gives me shit for drinking. He's like, it's so unhealthy, but I'm like, this is unhealthy.

• 1:26:02Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:26:02Speaker 01

  You're just, you got, you got no friends, you never fingered a girl, you don't go to parties, nothing.

• 1:26:08Joe Rogan?

  It's weird that there's a lot of kids doing that now.

• 1:26:10Speaker 01

  Eighty-five percent, alcohol sales are eighty-five percent down with Gen Z.

• 1:26:14Joe Rogan?

  What?

• 1:26:14Speaker 01

  Eighty-five percent.

• 1:26:16Joe Rogan?

  Is that real?

• 1:26:16Speaker 01

  And I just started a liquor, yeah. So I'm fucked. But yeah, it's weird. I'm like, how do you cut loose? I think they're all scared of being cringe. They're all scared of being filmed. We were so lucky, we could just get, get after it, fuck up, drive drunk.

• 1:26:31Joe Rogan?

  You really think that's it?

• 1:26:31Speaker 01

  I think that's part of it. Somebody told me that kids don't dance at dances anymore, because they're too scared of being, go viral. You know, look at this white guy dancing like an idiot. Cringe, hashtag. I think that's part of it.

• 1:26:45Joe Rogan?

  So happy to catch people doing something, ruining their whole life.

• 1:26:48Speaker 01

  That gotcha culture, it's horrible.

• 1:26:50Joe Rogan?

  It's horrible. And the type of people that want to do that, they should be shamed.

• 1:26:55Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:26:55Joe Rogan?

  That is a horrible behavior.

• 1:26:57Speaker 01

  Thousand percent agree. That's where we're at. We, I mean, people scan videos just to be like, gotcha, oh, you said this, you said that. They go through your old tweets, whatever it is, but we need to flip it and make those guys get in trouble.

• 1:27:10Joe Rogan?

  A hundred percent. It's like when someone has a false rape accusation. How come they don't go to jail? You almost made a person go to jail.

• 1:27:17Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:27:18Joe Rogan?

  It turns out that they didn't do anything and then you just skate.

• 1:27:20Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:27:21Joe Rogan?

  That's insane.

• 1:27:23Speaker 01

  They were gonna go to jail.

• 1:27:24Joe Rogan?

  Forever.

• 1:27:24Speaker 01

  Forever for nothing.

• 1:27:25Joe Rogan?

  For nothing.

• 1:27:26Speaker 01

  That's crazy.

• 1:27:27Joe Rogan?

  Something you made up.

• 1:27:27Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:27:28Joe Rogan?

  You just skate because you're a woman.

• 1:27:30Speaker 01

  I know.

• 1:27:30Joe Rogan?

  Or you're a guy.

• 1:27:31Speaker 01

  Sure.

• 1:27:32Joe Rogan?

  There's guys that had fake rape accusations against other men.

• 1:27:35Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:27:36Joe Rogan?

  It's nuts.

• 1:27:37Speaker 01

  I know, it's a bummer. But I guess it's human nature. It's powerful. I don't know.

• 1:27:41Joe Rogan?

  I know, but we should punish the people that make fake claims.

• 1:27:43Speaker 01

  I agree.

• 1:27:44Joe Rogan?

  That's crazy.

• 1:27:45Speaker 01

  They should have to do half the time of the sentence.

• 1:27:48Joe Rogan?

  Like think about the Amber Heard Johnny Depp thing.

• 1:27:50Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:27:50Joe Rogan?

  Like he gets exonerated at the end of it. Everybody kind of sees her talk and they go, oh, she made up a bunch of shit. He's, he's okay.

• 1:27:57Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:27:57Joe Rogan?

  But meanwhile, what happened to her? Nothing.

• 1:28:00Speaker 01

  Well, she was humiliated, but yeah, she lost the money, I guess.

• 1:28:03Joe Rogan?

  But when you falsely accuse someone of crimes.

• 1:28:06Speaker 01

  Beating her.

• 1:28:06Joe Rogan?

  Beating you.

• 1:28:07Speaker 01

  She got a makeup lady to put shit on her.

• 1:28:09Joe Rogan?

  He could have gone to jail.

• 1:28:11Speaker 01

  I know.

• 1:28:12Joe Rogan?

  Ten, fifteen, twenty-five years.

• 1:28:14Speaker 01

  Cruel. That's unusual. That's psychopath.

• 1:28:17Joe Rogan?

  Tried to ruin his life. Like that's what, you know, Jordan Peterson talks about that, that women are, they, they're experts in reputation destruction.

• 1:28:24Speaker 01

  Mmm.

• 1:28:24Joe Rogan?

  That's what they like to do. And that's what she was trying to do with him.

• 1:28:27Speaker 01

  Well, they can't fight.

• 1:28:28Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:28:28Speaker 01

  So that's kind of their way, I guess.

• 1:28:30Joe Rogan?

  You know when they kill people? You know how they do it for the most part?

• 1:28:32Speaker 01

  Antifreeze in the oatmeal?

• 1:28:33Joe Rogan?

  Poison.

• 1:28:34Speaker 01

  Yeah, they get it slow over time.

• 1:28:36Joe Rogan?

  I was reading about this lady who wrote a book about how, helping her children get over grief.

• 1:28:44Speaker 01

  Hmm.

• 1:28:44Joe Rogan?

  And she sold this book because her husband died. And then they just arrested her for poisoning her husband.

• 1:28:49Speaker 01

  Oh, my god.

• 1:28:51Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:28:52Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 1:28:53Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, she killed him. It was in twenty twenty-two.

• 1:28:54Speaker 01

  At least they got her. How'd they find out?

• 1:28:56Joe Rogan?

  She was like crocodile tears, you know, it's so hard for me to lose my beloved Steve or whatever the fuck his name was.

• 1:29:03Speaker 01

  Well, did you see the Rebel Wilson thing?

• 1:29:05Joe Rogan?

  No.

• 1:29:05Speaker 01

  Oh, JMo. She accused a guy of, uh, sex trafficking?

• 1:29:12Joe Rogan?

  And she accused Sacha Baron Cohen of, uh, telling her to grab, to finger his asshole.

• 1:29:18Speaker 01

  What?

• 1:29:18Joe Rogan?

  When meanwhile, what he really said, it's on camera, like she was supposed to grab his ass in a scene. And he said, you know, you stuck your finger right up my ass. Like, take it easy.

• 1:29:28Speaker 01

  Uh huh.

• 1:29:29Joe Rogan?

  And she said, he told me to finger his asshole.

• 1:29:31Speaker 01

  Whoa.

• 1:29:32Joe Rogan?

  Something along those lines.

• 1:29:33Speaker 01

  Whoa.

• 1:29:34Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:29:34Speaker 01

  Why would he say that?

• 1:29:36Joe Rogan?

  Well, he is Sacha Baron Cohen.

• 1:29:38Speaker 01

  Sure, sure.

• 1:29:39Joe Rogan?

  He is Borat.

• 1:29:40Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:29:41Joe Rogan?

  So what did she accuse someone of?

• 1:29:42Speaker 01

  She accused a guy of being a sex trafficker, I believe, with children and they caught her on a hot mic or somebody on a hot mic saying their plan. They like spelled it out.

• 1:29:51Joe Rogan?

  What?

• 1:29:52Speaker 01

  And so she's in hot water.

• 1:29:54Joe Rogan?

  Well, she should be going to jail.

• 1:29:55Speaker 01

  Sure.

• 1:29:56Joe Rogan?

  Like that, you can ruin someone's entire life. Rebel Wilson versus the Deb. What's the Deb? That's a movie?

• 1:30:03Speaker 01

  Oh, okay.

• 1:30:04Joe Rogan?

  Four lawsuits explode as leaked audio alleges smear campaign against producer.

• 1:30:10Joe Rogan?

  Well, she's another lady that used to be really big and then she got kind of hot. She slimmed, slimmed down a little bit. So what did they actually catch her? Um, okay, well, it says the producers, so it says, she alleges, Page Six reported that dispute intensified after leaked audio raised questions about an alleged smear effort linked to a crisis PR team working on her behalf. Wilson used social media to accuse billionaire Sir Len Blavatnik of funding both the film and the legal actions against her. It dates back to 2024. Wilson accused a film's producer, including songwriter Amanda Ghost,

• 1:30:53Joe Rogan?

  of inappropriate behavior towards the lead, played by Charlotte McInnes. She also accused them of embezzling funds from the film's budget, engaging in retaliatory behavior after she raised concerns in trying to block the film's premiere at the Toronto Film Festival.

• 1:31:10Speaker 01

  Yikes.

• 1:31:10Joe Rogan?

  Producers later filed a defamation suit against Wilson in Los Angeles. Wilson then filed a counter suit that expanded on her sexual harassment and embezzlement allegations.

• 1:31:22Joe Rogan?

  McInnes, McInnes? Is it McInnes? Yeah. McInnes publicly denied Wilson's claim that Ghost had sexually harassed her and then filed her own defamation suit

• 1:31:32Speaker 01

  Oy, very.

• 1:31:33Joe Rogan?

  against Wilson in Australia. Wow. So the lady she was saying was being sexually harassed filed a defamation suit against her.

• 1:31:42Speaker 01

  Another twist. This is when it gets good.

• 1:31:44Joe Rogan?

  Hmm.

• 1:31:45Speaker 01

  Hollywood Reporter published leaked audio that allegedly captures members of Wilson's team discussing fake websites that would paint Ghost as a sex trafficking madam.

• 1:31:55Joe Rogan?

  Wow.

• 1:31:57Joe Rogan?

  In the recording, one person can be heard saying, "We can't just do that." Like, "Oh, she's a bitch. She sucks." It's like, it's gotta be really, really heavy and connected to something that heavy.

• 1:32:08Speaker 01

  Woo!

• 1:32:09Joe Rogan?

  Wow!

• 1:32:10Speaker 01

  Whee!

• 1:32:11Joe Rogan?

  They go to jail.

• 1:32:14Speaker 01

  Yeah, well-

• 1:32:14Joe Rogan?

  Go to jail.

• 1:32:15Speaker 01

  If canceling works, you can use it, you can weaponize it.

• 1:32:18Joe Rogan?

  She addressed the con- Wilson addressed the controversy in a series of Instagram stories. She says, "I was going to wait to take the stand, but the absolute bombardment on me as a person via heavily-paid crisis PR firms recently has taken its toll, and it's impossible to say nothing," she wrote. She also said, "Everyone who knows me knows I a true rebel." Oh, she's a rebel, because her name's Rebel. Huh huh.

• 1:32:41Speaker 01

  Uh huh.

• 1:32:41Joe Rogan?

  "I say it how it is." Oh, wow. She- Another post added, "I am pretty strong," in all caps, "and when push comes to shove, I'm going to get on the stand and tell it like it is." Holy fuck, these people are fucking crazy.

• 1:32:55Speaker 01

  Scary stuff.

• 1:32:56Joe Rogan?

  There's so many of these people that are just, not just narcissists, but sociopaths at the same time.

• 1:33:01Speaker 01

  Right, right.

• 1:33:02Joe Rogan?

  Narcissists and sociopath, and then recently hot.

• 1:33:05Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:33:06Joe Rogan?

  So it's like, new powers.

• 1:33:07Speaker 01

  Exactly, new powers.

• 1:33:09Joe Rogan?

  New hot powers.

• 1:33:10Speaker 01

  You know who I'm loving, though, is this Doja Cat.

• 1:33:13Joe Rogan?

  What about her?

• 1:33:14Speaker 01

  So she's some pop star who I don't even know, I'm an old boomer queef, but she went after Timothee Chalamet when he made fun of ballet. Did you see that whole thing?

• 1:33:23Joe Rogan?

  Oh, and then she said she was just virtue signaling.

• 1:33:24Speaker 01

  Yes, which I commend her. I'm like, she apologized, she goes, "I was just trying to get clicks, I'm sorry."

• 1:33:29Joe Rogan?

  That's hilarious!

• 1:33:30Speaker 01

  That's great, that she, she backtracked, and I, and she came clean, I love that.

• 1:33:34Joe Rogan?

  It is funny that she just admitted it. She's probably high. She's probably high, like, "What am I doing? The fuck's wrong with me?"

• 1:33:40Speaker 01

  Either way, I'm on board, we need more of that. We need more people going, "Ah, fuck, I was, I was high and..."

• 1:33:45Joe Rogan?

  Well, you know, Louis CK said this about like, social media stuff. He goes, "It's just talk, but the problem is it's written down." Like, people say things all the time that aren't right, they shouldn't have said it, but when it's written down, it's like, "Oh, it's documented."

• 1:33:58Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:33:58Joe Rogan?

  You know, and then everyone can read it forever. He goes, "But it's just talk." It's just talk that you could read.

• 1:34:04Speaker 01

  That's true.

• 1:34:05Joe Rogan?

  It is true.

• 1:34:05Speaker 01

  And it's in stone, forever.

• 1:34:07Joe Rogan?

  Right, forever.

• 1:34:07Speaker 01

  On the internet.

• 1:34:08Joe Rogan?

  And people are never gonna forget it. You could say something retarded at a party when you're drunk-

• 1:34:12Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:34:12Joe Rogan?

  And then call your buddy the next morning, "Bro, I don't know what the fuck I was saying. I'm sorry." But if it's written on Twitter-

• 1:34:18Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:34:18Joe Rogan?

  Like, they'll never let you forget it.

• 1:34:19Speaker 01

  Again, why kids can't fuck around, they can't cut loose, because they'll get written about.

• 1:34:25Speaker 01

  I feel bad for them. They can't enjoy youth. Youth is when you do stupid shit.

• 1:34:30Joe Rogan?

  And when kids do get shamed, like it will, like if something happens to you in high school.

• 1:34:34Speaker 01

  Oh, it's traumatizing.

• 1:34:35Joe Rogan?

  It's traumatizing. And you can go back to high school. I remember going back to high school like years later, like driving by and I would get nervous.

• 1:34:42Speaker 01

  Yes, yeah, the pit.

• 1:34:44Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, the same feeling that you got when you were going to school there, like.

• 1:34:48Speaker 01

  Totally.

• 1:34:48Joe Rogan?

  And I didn't have a horrible high school.

• 1:34:50Speaker 01

  No, me neither.

• 1:34:51Joe Rogan?

  But still.

• 1:34:52Speaker 01

  Still, yeah.

• 1:34:53Joe Rogan?

  Now imagine if I did. Imagine if something terrible went down in high school. And I was there, like, oh my god.

• 1:34:59Speaker 01

  Well, you see these poor girls who get bullied for being fat, then they become anorexic or whatever. It goes all kinds of different ways. Guys who got beat up. I got bullied pretty bad in, in school.

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• 1:36:10Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, and that can fuck with your confidence forever.

• 1:36:13Speaker 01

  Of course.

• 1:36:14Joe Rogan?

  There's some guys that get bullied in high school and they just never recover.

• 1:36:16Speaker 01

  Yeah, now you can do that on social media in two seconds and some kid will kill himself.

• 1:36:21Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:36:21Speaker 01

  Happens all the time.

• 1:36:22Joe Rogan?

  And then there's like pylons that people do.

• 1:36:24Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:36:25Joe Rogan?

  When comics do pylons, I'm like, good lord. I have like a mental list of people that do pylons that I'm like, I'll never fuck with you again. I'll never, I don't want to ever talk to you.

• 1:36:35Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:36:36Joe Rogan?

  If I ever see you, I'm like, you're just, you're waiting to turn on people.

• 1:36:40Speaker 01

  It's strange.

• 1:36:41Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:36:42Speaker 01

  And as Bill Burr would say, we're all eating a shit sandwich out here. Like, why do you have to make this harder?

• 1:36:46Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:36:47Speaker 01

  We're trying to be comedians. It's like a crazy, uh, job. To go for.

• 1:36:52Joe Rogan?

  Well, one thing that they all have in common is they're all not doing well.

• 1:36:55Speaker 01

  Hmm.

• 1:36:56Joe Rogan?

  It's all comics that are failing.

• 1:36:58Speaker 01

  I guess so.

• 1:36:59Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, and then they're seeing all these other people that are taking off and doing really well, like when Shane, when they piled on Shane.

• 1:37:04Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:37:04Joe Rogan?

  It was because Shane's talented and that they were really kinda scared of him.

• 1:37:08Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:37:09Joe Rogan?

  Cause when someone like that guy could take off and now he has taken off and now they're fucked, they can't say nothing. And then we all remember.

• 1:37:16Speaker 01

  Of course.

• 1:37:16Joe Rogan?

  Like, hey, you're the cunt that piled on.

• 1:37:18Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:37:19Joe Rogan?

  All that shit was going on with SNL, fuck you.

• 1:37:22Speaker 01

  You got mad at a comic for saying something inappropriate? That's what we do.

• 1:37:25Joe Rogan?

  Not only that, it was completely out of context.

• 1:37:27Speaker 01

  I know.

• 1:37:28Joe Rogan?

  Pretending to be a person who'd never been in Chinatown before, who was a racist.

• 1:37:33Speaker 01

  Exactly.

• 1:37:34Joe Rogan?

  That was his quote.

• 1:37:35Speaker 01

  But they could get him because he had a big gig. He got a break, so now we can take that away and that's kind of the root of it.

• 1:37:41Joe Rogan?

  It's losers. You know, it's not like Chris Rock's not trying to take people's gigs away, you know what I mean?

• 1:37:45Speaker 01

  Yeah, of course.

• 1:37:46Joe Rogan?

  It's only losers. It's only people that don't have anything going on.

• 1:37:49Speaker 01

  Well Shane's got a, he's got a, he's like fucking Buscemi in Billy Madison. He's putting that lipstick on and he's, he's got a list.

• 1:37:56Joe Rogan?

  Good.

• 1:37:57Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:37:57Joe Rogan?

  Good.

• 1:37:57Speaker 01

  He knows everybody.

• 1:37:58Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, good. Fuck those people. You don't have to do anything to them, but just know them. Know them for what they really are and never fuck with them again.

• 1:38:05Speaker 01

  Yeah, avoid them. Just keep writing jokes, keep killing and live your life.

• 1:38:09Joe Rogan?

  Keep killing. You don't need those fuckers. And there's always gonna be people like that in every business, in every industry. There's always people that aren't doing so well, that haven't got their life figured out, they wanna attack the people that do.

• 1:38:21Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:38:22Joe Rogan?

  Bro, why do we have beers? What's up with the beer?

• 1:38:24Speaker 01

  I brought a few in if you wanna one.

• 1:38:25Joe Rogan?

  Lone Star.

• 1:38:26Speaker 01

  I don't like that Bud Light shit, no offense.

• 1:38:29Joe Rogan?

  I don't mind it. I don't mind it, but I prefer a Lone Star.

• 1:38:32Speaker 01

  Same, cheers. Hey, we're mixing liquors here.

• 1:38:37Joe Rogan?

  My dogs finally went to sleep.

• 1:38:39Speaker 01

  Ah, hallelujah. Oh yeah. Oh shit, I was gonna say something. Doja Cat, that was big. Cunts.

• 1:38:45Joe Rogan?

  A lot of cunts in the world.

• 1:38:46Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:38:46Joe Rogan?

  But there's a lot of great people. I think cunts are important because they make you appreciate nice people.

• 1:38:50Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:38:51Joe Rogan?

  You know?

• 1:38:52Speaker 01

  I just.

• 1:38:52Joe Rogan?

  If I didn't know any cunts, I might, maybe I wouldn't like you.

• 1:38:54Speaker 01

  Right, but. I see the cunts and I wanna hug them. I wanna go, come on, what are we doing?

• 1:39:00Joe Rogan?

  I do too, but it doesn't always happen. You know, I uh, I made up with Maren.

• 1:39:05Speaker 01

  I heard. Good on ya. Well, the funny thing is you never really started anything. It was all him.

• 1:39:10Joe Rogan?

  But it's that thing. It's like he wasn't doing so good. And he's also separate from us.

• 1:39:13Speaker 01

  He's doing great. He's in movies.

• 1:39:15Joe Rogan?

  I know, but it's like he's not doing as well.

• 1:39:18Speaker 01

  I guess.

• 1:39:18Joe Rogan?

  It's all comparative.

• 1:39:19Speaker 01

  Ah, so sad.

• 1:39:20Joe Rogan?

  Comparison is the thief of joy.

• 1:39:22Speaker 01

  I, I agree, but you know, he's in The Joker, he's talking to Obama, he's like, he's killing it.

• 1:39:27Joe Rogan?

  He should be killing it. But it's like, people compare themselves to other people. It's very, it's very toxic. It's very bad.

• 1:39:35Speaker 01

  It is. It is, but it's uh...

• 1:39:36Joe Rogan?

  Compare yourself to who you were yesterday.

• 1:39:38Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:39:38Joe Rogan?

  Do a better job. That's it. Figure out what you fucked up yesterday, do better. Compare yourself to your friends and get inspiration from it.

• 1:39:45Speaker 01

  Now, were you ever jealous of a guy?

• 1:39:47Joe Rogan?

  Oh yeah.

• 1:39:48Speaker 01

  And you go, guy, I wouldn't mind taking that guy down, or that gal down.

• 1:39:51Joe Rogan?

  No, no, I never thought like that.

• 1:39:53Speaker 01

  I don't have that instinct either.

• 1:39:54Joe Rogan?

  No, I never wanted to take someone down, but I definitely felt jealousy. But then I realized that's a bitch feeling. You know, and they're like, don't, like, you should be inspired.

• 1:40:02Speaker 01

  And nothing comes from it.

• 1:40:03Joe Rogan?

  Nothing. But it's also, I came from a martial arts background where you have to have people better than you or as good as you around, or you won't get better. Like, if you're like, in competition, so if you're competing against like, elite people all over the country, like I was doing when I was in high school and afterwards, if you don't have people in the gym that are better than you, you're gonna get fucked up. Like, you need to be around the best people in the world. Like, I had national champions in my gym.

• 1:40:30Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:40:30Joe Rogan?

  And because of that, I had to rise to a very high level. So they were very valuable to me.

• 1:40:36Speaker 01

  Sure.

• 1:40:36Joe Rogan?

  So instead of like, being jealous, like, why is he the champ and I'm not the... Instead of that, you're like, I see what this guy's doing, I see what he's going through, I wanna mirror his behavior, I wanna be inspired by him.

• 1:40:46Speaker 01

  Step it up.

• 1:40:47Joe Rogan?

  And you can do that with comedy too, with everything else.

• 1:40:49Speaker 01

  But I will say martial arts is a more objective. That guy pinned you. That guy knocked you out. This is, this comedy thing is subjective and uh, people go, I'm funnier than that guy. And I'm like, I've never seen you kill.

• 1:41:00Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:41:01Speaker 01

  So...

• 1:41:01Joe Rogan?

  That's true. That's true.

• 1:41:02Speaker 01

  That makes it harder. That's why we love sports.

• 1:41:04Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:41:05Speaker 01

  There's an ending. Ah, you got more points.

• 1:41:07Joe Rogan?

  The basket goes in the net, that's it. Or the ball goes in the basket, that's it.

• 1:41:11Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah. But that's the problem. We're so tribal now that like, people vote the right way, or they, they tweet the right thing, but they're still mean as shit. Like, as Ari would say, good politics, bad people. I'd rather you, I'd rather you tweet some horrible slur, but be a nice guy. Our priorities are out of whack in society. I think we're rewarding the wrong things.

• 1:41:33Joe Rogan?

  Well, we're really confused because social media is not real.

• 1:41:37Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:41:38Joe Rogan?

  And it's not real human interaction. It's not normal. You're not supposed to be able to just write something and the people that respond just write something back. It's supposed to be dialogue.

• 1:41:46Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:41:47Joe Rogan?

  People are supposed to communicate the way we're doing. That's how normal people talk. That way, when someone says something nutty, instead of letting them go on for paragraph after paragraph, you go, "No, that's not true. I never said that."

• 1:41:59Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:41:59Joe Rogan?

  "I never said that." No, you're miss, you're miss, first of all, you're taking something that was sarcastic.

• 1:42:05Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:42:05Joe Rogan?

  And you're making it like a quote as if this is like what my real feelings were.

• 1:42:09Speaker 01

  Yeah, and they kind of want it to be real, which is strange. You know, they go, "We hate racism." I heard this thing where they're like, "Bill Burr's a racist," and somebody tweeted his wife's black. And they were like, "Well, sometimes you'll marry black women to dominate them," and you're like, "Give it up, man."

• 1:42:21Joe Rogan?

  You don't know that relationship.

• 1:42:23Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:42:25Speaker 01

  Well, his wife tweeted after, "Shut the fuck up, bitch."

• 1:42:27Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, good for her.

• 1:42:28Speaker 01

  And you're like, "There you go."

• 1:42:29Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, good for her.

• 1:42:30Speaker 01

  Just go, oh shit.

• 1:42:31Joe Rogan?

  But also, don't interact with those people.

• 1:42:33Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:42:33Joe Rogan?

  It's not, these are not good faith conversations.

• 1:42:36Speaker 01

  So do you feel good? I mean, it must be a load off with the Maron makeup.

• 1:42:39Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it was nice. I never hated that guy. It was a, and it was a nice conversation.

• 1:42:44Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:42:44Joe Rogan?

  And we're gonna get together when he's in town.

• 1:42:46Speaker 01

  Oh my god, this is amazing.

• 1:42:48Joe Rogan?

  We're gonna break bread, have dinner. I even invited him to the club. I'm like, "Come, come to the club. It's not what you think it is."

• 1:42:53Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:42:53Joe Rogan?

  There's all walks of life. There's a ton of lesbians and gay people and half, it's like the most diverse fucking place on earth, but they're all talented.

• 1:43:01Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:43:01Joe Rogan?

  It's only diverse by accident.

• 1:43:03Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:43:03Joe Rogan?

  It's diverse just because the talented people all happen to be diverse.

• 1:43:07Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's like UFC.

• 1:43:09Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:43:09Speaker 01

  It's like a Russian guy, a fucking Muslim guy, Chinese guy, Korean guy, yeah.

• 1:43:14Joe Rogan?

  But that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to be, diversity's supposed to occur naturally if you just let the best people excel.

• 1:43:21Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:43:21Joe Rogan?

  Especially in something like comedy because there's no barrier to entry. It's an open mic night. All you have to do is write on a pad, come up with some ideas.

• 1:43:29Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:43:30Joe Rogan?

  You don't have to have a lot of money to do it. Everybody there that starts out is broke.

• 1:43:33Speaker 01

  Well, did you see those Oscars regulations? That was a bummer, cuz I'm a big movie guy and that really bummed me out.

• 1:43:42Joe Rogan?

  Good, fuck the Oscars, who cares?

• 1:43:44Speaker 01

  I mean, I grew up watching it, I love movies.

• 1:43:46Joe Rogan?

  I know, but who cares?

• 1:43:47Speaker 01

  But like The Godfather, all these movies would never have been made or won.

• 1:43:50Joe Rogan?

  Never, never. There's a ton of movies that you could never make. You'd never make Braveheart.

• 1:43:54Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:43:55Joe Rogan?

  Right, or Apocalypto.

• 1:43:56Speaker 01

  Or what about Boys?

• 1:43:57Joe Rogan?

  All brown people.

• 1:43:58Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, Boys in the Hood, isn't there no Asian guy in there?

• 1:44:01Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:44:02Speaker 01

  And it's a great movie.

• 1:44:03Joe Rogan?

  It's insane that you would have diversity quotas when you're talking about art, because you're gonna have a... What if you're doing a film about Scotland in the 1400s?

• 1:44:11Speaker 01

  Exactly.

• 1:44:12Joe Rogan?

  You can't bring Asian people into the mix. No. They weren't there.

• 1:44:16Speaker 01

  But now you gotta write one in, like, "Oh, this Asian guy's the best doctor in Scotland." And you're like, "Wait, what?"

• 1:44:21Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:44:22Speaker 01

  It's the 1400s.

• 1:44:22Joe Rogan?

  Right, if you're gonna write a, you know, a thing about feudal Japan, it's gonna be all Japanese people.

• 1:44:27Speaker 01

  Squid Game.

• 1:44:28Joe Rogan?

  That's about, right, Squid Games. It's, that's okay.

• 1:44:31Speaker 01

  Yeah!

• 1:44:31Joe Rogan?

  That's okay.

• 1:44:32Speaker 01

  I love that show.

• 1:44:33Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Just like Sinners is okay.

• 1:44:35Speaker 01

  Yeah, I like Sinners.

• 1:44:36Joe Rogan?

  Have a movie with all black people, like, it doesn't matter.

• 1:44:38Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:44:39Joe Rogan?

  It's just like, just make movies and if people like it, they like it. But this idea of having a diversity quota, where you have to think about that? Because I've talked to friends that have pitched shows, and when they pitched the show, like Bert was telling me this. He was pitching a show and they were like, "Where's the diversity?"

• 1:44:55Speaker 01

  Hmm.

• 1:44:57Joe Rogan?

  And he's just like sitting there like, "I don't know what to tell you, it's a movie about Russians in Russia." Like, what are you fucking saying to me? Where's the diversity? What does that even fucking mean?

• 1:45:06Speaker 01

  I know, it's...

• 1:45:07Joe Rogan?

  It doesn't have to be diverse, it just has to be good. And then if you have enough good things, you're gonna have diversity across all these different films.

• 1:45:15Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:45:15Joe Rogan?

  Because there's gonna be films about black ballerinas.

• 1:45:18Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:45:18Joe Rogan?

  There's gonna be films about, you know, people, you know, running in the Olympics in 1936 in Germany.

• 1:45:25Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:45:26Joe Rogan?

  You're gonna have films that cover all the bases.

• 1:45:30Speaker 01

  I know, and let it just happen.

• 1:45:31Joe Rogan?

  Let it happen.

• 1:45:32Speaker 01

  Let the movie be good.

• 1:45:33Joe Rogan?

  Just let people create what they wanna create and then, I think judging art is crazy anyway.

• 1:45:38Speaker 01

  Well, that's the whole thing.

• 1:45:39Joe Rogan?

  I think awards for art are crazy.

• 1:45:41Speaker 01

  It's all political, too.

• 1:45:42Joe Rogan?

  It's just nonsense.

• 1:45:43Speaker 01

  You know, "Oh, Scorsese wins for The Departed," and like, "That's not his best movie."

• 1:45:48Joe Rogan?

  Like, when they were doing the Golden Globes for podcasts, I'm like, "Good luck." Get, get out of here with that.

• 1:45:52Speaker 01

  Right, right.

• 1:45:53Joe Rogan?

  I didn't even submit.

• 1:45:54Speaker 01

  I heard.

• 1:45:54Joe Rogan?

  I'm like, get out of here. I'm not, I'm not gonna be a part of your bullshit. Like, you could just decide who's the best and who, and who's deciding?

• 1:46:00Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:46:00Joe Rogan?

  Like, fuck off.

• 1:46:01Speaker 01

  Exactly.

• 1:46:01Joe Rogan?

  Awards for art are just nuts.

• 1:46:03Speaker 01

  It doesn't work. And then we all go, how'd they win? Is that, is that because of this?

• 1:46:07Joe Rogan?

  Exactly.

• 1:46:08Speaker 01

  Or is he actually really good, you know, and now you're questioning it and you can't even get into it?

• 1:46:11Joe Rogan?

  Well, do you remember Siskel and Ebert?

• 1:46:13Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:46:13Joe Rogan?

  Well, they were the guys.

• 1:46:14Speaker 01

  I love Siskel and Ebert.

• 1:46:16Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I loved them too until I saw the outtakes and I realized they were both cunts.

• 1:46:19Speaker 01

  I know, but it was fun.

• 1:46:20Joe Rogan?

  Going after each other.

• 1:46:21Speaker 01

  They hated each other. Those, uh, YouTube outtakes are amazing.

• 1:46:25Joe Rogan?

  Amazing. They fucking hated each other.

• 1:46:27Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah. But that was a fun show. Two thumbs up, though. It was, uh, it was lighter.

• 1:46:32Joe Rogan?

  Yes.

• 1:46:32Speaker 01

  It wasn't like, this movie was, uh, racist.

• 1:46:36Joe Rogan?

  Right, right, right, right.

• 1:46:37Speaker 01

  It was like, good or bad.

• 1:46:37Joe Rogan?

  Right. They just judged it based on what they felt watching the movie and then they had, they had educated takes.

• 1:46:43Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:46:44Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. And, but that's where a film, that's where, that's where the, not awards for art, but recommendations for art. By people that you appreciate.

• 1:46:53Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:46:54Joe Rogan?

  You know?

• 1:46:54Speaker 01

  I just picture the Academy going, damn, that's a good movie, but, you know, uh, it's not a, uh, trans guy in a wheelchair. And this one does that. They used to do it with retards. That was a big thing with Oscars. It was like, oh, this guy's playing a, a tard. We gotta give it to him.

• 1:47:09Joe Rogan?

  Exactly.

• 1:47:10Speaker 01

  And now it's more skin color based or, or gender.

• 1:47:13Joe Rogan?

  And then it got to Tropic Thunder where they had never, never go full retard.

• 1:47:16Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, exactly.

• 1:47:17Joe Rogan?

  They killed that genre.

• 1:47:18Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:47:18Joe Rogan?

  You never see people playing handicap people in a film anymore.

• 1:47:21Speaker 01

  But that movie's great because it shows Robert Downey's in full black everything.

• 1:47:26Joe Rogan?

  Yes.

• 1:47:26Speaker 01

  And everybody's like, he nailed it.

• 1:47:28Joe Rogan?

  I asked him about that.

• 1:47:29Speaker 01

  Oh, wow.

• 1:47:30Joe Rogan?

  I said, do you think you could do that movie today? He goes, well, you could do it.

• 1:47:37Joe Rogan?

  It'd be a fucking problem.

• 1:47:39Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:47:40Joe Rogan?

  He was the last guy to do blackface and not get canceled.

• 1:47:43Speaker 01

  Yeah, and he fucking killed it.

• 1:47:44Joe Rogan?

  Killed it. It was amazing. That movie was fucking amazing.

• 1:47:49Speaker 01

  Amazing.

• 1:47:49Joe Rogan?

  It's the last completely politically incorrect movie, and it is hilarious.

• 1:47:53Speaker 01

  I know, it's so good.

• 1:47:55Joe Rogan?

  You know who kills it in that movie? Tom Cruise.

• 1:47:57Speaker 01

  Killed it as the sleazy agent. That dancing.

• 1:48:00Joe Rogan?

  That guy's so good.

• 1:48:02Speaker 01

  He's good.

• 1:48:02Joe Rogan?

  He's so good. And I was just talking the other day about that movie Collateral.

• 1:48:06Speaker 01

  Oh, Michael Mann. Great movie.

• 1:48:09Joe Rogan?

  That movie, I just watched it like a couple of months ago. I was like, this movie's so fucking good.

• 1:48:14Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:48:15Joe Rogan?

  He's so convincing.

• 1:48:16Speaker 01

  So scary.

• 1:48:17Joe Rogan?

  A complete psychopathic killer.

• 1:48:19Speaker 01

  Yeah, and there's not much going on, but they, those two together, the chemistry was amazing.

• 1:48:23Joe Rogan?

  Well, when things happen, they're so crazy.

• 1:48:25Speaker 01

  Yes, yes.

• 1:48:26Joe Rogan?

  That scene in the alleyway where he shoots those two guys that are trying to rob him.

• 1:48:29Speaker 01

  Great.

• 1:48:29Joe Rogan?

  You're like, fuck, yeah.

• 1:48:31Speaker 01

  Yeah, and hats off to Jamie Foxx. I mean.

• 1:48:33Joe Rogan?

  He's so good in that movie.

• 1:48:35Speaker 01

  Plays like a ner- kind of a nerdy scared guy, and then he could play Ray.

• 1:48:38Joe Rogan?

  Yes, that guy can do anything.

• 1:48:40Speaker 01

  Yeah, he had him on.

• 1:48:41Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I love that guy. He's great.

• 1:48:43Speaker 01

  He's a talent.

• 1:48:44Joe Rogan?

  He's a super talented guy, and a really nice guy.

• 1:48:46Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:48:47Joe Rogan?

  I've met him off, like, I met him at a gas station once.

• 1:48:50Speaker 01

  What?

• 1:48:50Joe Rogan?

  Taking his daughter, uh, uh, home from a martial arts class.

• 1:48:54Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 1:48:55Joe Rogan?

  And we were just pumping gas next to each other, and some guy pulls up in one of those, have you ever seen those Resvani trucks? Do you know what that is?

• 1:49:01Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:49:01Joe Rogan?

  It's a crazy, like, futuristic-looking bulletproof car. It's like a Resvani tank.

• 1:49:08Speaker 01

  What? Pull it up.

• 1:49:08Joe Rogan?

  Oh, it's cool-looking.

• 1:49:10Speaker 01

  Is it electric?

• 1:49:11Joe Rogan?

  No, no, this is a long time ago, before electric cars. This is probably two thousand, well, there was some Teslas, the real small ones that were based on the Lotus platform back then, but this is like two thousand fourteen or fifteen or something like that. That thing.

• 1:49:23Speaker 01

  Whoa.

• 1:49:24Joe Rogan?

  He pulled up, he pulled up in that. That's Jamie Foxx's car.

• 1:49:27Speaker 01

  That's like a Batmobile kind of thing.

• 1:49:28Joe Rogan?

  Exactly. So he pulled up next to me, and I was like, who's driving that fucking thing?

• 1:49:34Speaker 01

  Damn.

• 1:49:34Joe Rogan?

  And Jamie Foxx got like, what's up, Joe? What's up, Jamie? What do you do? But he's cool. He's like a normal dude.

• 1:49:41Speaker 01

  Yeah, and he did it all. He did stand-up, he did a Living Color, he had his own sitcom, and then the movies.

• 1:49:46Joe Rogan?

  Ultra-talented. Can sing.

• 1:49:48Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:49:49Joe Rogan?

  Act, and he can act in comedy, he can act in drama, he can play a nerd, he can play a killer, he can play anything.

• 1:49:56Speaker 01

  I just rewatched Ray. It's incredible.

• 1:49:58Joe Rogan?

  It's amazing.

• 1:49:59Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, he kills that role.

• 1:50:01Joe Rogan?

  And how good is he singing it?

• 1:50:03Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:50:03Joe Rogan?

  Him singing.

• 1:50:04Speaker 01

  Yeah, I didn't realize Ray was such a junkie.

• 1:50:07Joe Rogan?

  Was he? Yeah, that's right.

• 1:50:08Speaker 01

  Big heroin guy. That's why, that's why he was all moving like that shit. He was all wonked out on the, on the H.

• 1:50:14Joe Rogan?

  You know, people say Stevie Ray Wonder can sing, or Stevie Wonder, rather, can sing.

• 1:50:17Speaker 01

  Can see.

• 1:50:18Joe Rogan?

  Can see.

• 1:50:19Speaker 01

  I've heard that. He catches the microphone. The microphone falls and he catches it. So that's a big conspiracy theory, but uh, looking back, that's like the, such a gentle, light conspiracy compared to what we, the fuck we got going on today.

• 1:50:31Joe Rogan?

  I know, right?

• 1:50:32Speaker 01

  Yeah, that, that Elvis is real. Like, we used to have a fun, kind of playful conspiracies. Yeah, yeah, then, and now it's all out of whack.

• 1:50:41Joe Rogan?

  You know, it's McCollum's got a dick.

• 1:50:43Speaker 01

  Exactly.

• 1:50:45Joe Rogan?

  I've heard Erica Kirk's got a dick. I've heard that one.

• 1:50:47Speaker 01

  Whoa, she seems thrilled right now.

• 1:50:50Joe Rogan?

  She's an odd duck.

• 1:50:51Speaker 01

  She's a kook, for sure.

• 1:50:52Joe Rogan?

  You ever seen the compilation of her making crazy eyes?

• 1:50:54Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:50:55Joe Rogan?

  There's a video of her making demon eyes, and every time she makes the eyes, the music, "Gooooo."

• 1:51:01Joe Rogan?

  So ridiculous.

• 1:51:01Speaker 01

  She's possessed.

• 1:51:02Joe Rogan?

  Well, she just gets intense.

• 1:51:04Speaker 01

  She's like the guy, what's, what's the gang, gang guy? What's that guy, uh, oh my god, look at that. She looks like a televangelist.

• 1:51:10Joe Rogan?

  Give me some, some volume. She's talking to Barry Weiss.

• 1:51:12Speaker 01

  There you go.

• 1:51:13Joe Rogan?

  Watch this. Pay attention to her eyes.

• 1:51:16Speaker 00

  Charlie said or believed things that they believed were controversial or even hateful, that he somehow had it coming. What do you say to people who justified? You're sick.

• 1:51:29Speaker 01

  Hmm.

• 1:51:31Speaker 00

  He's a human being.

• 1:51:33Speaker 01

  Oh, boy.

• 1:51:34Joe Rogan?

  With the eyes. Exactly what Barry is saying, they basically said that because Charlie said or believed.

• 1:51:39Speaker 01

  Alright, we don't need the Vincent D'Onofrio.

• 1:51:41Joe Rogan?

  That's not the one that I wanted to hear.

• 1:51:43Speaker 01

  Okay, but yeah, she seems, uh, she's having a good time. Well, she was on a reality show, you know?

• 1:51:47Joe Rogan?

  Yes.

• 1:51:48Speaker 01

  So she's a star fucker.

• 1:51:49Joe Rogan?

  A little bit.

• 1:51:50Speaker 01

  Maybe.

• 1:51:51Joe Rogan?

  She was also in some weird CIA documents, or CIA films.

• 1:51:54Speaker 01

  Is that right?

• 1:51:55Joe Rogan?

  Like, yeah, you ever seen those films?

• 1:51:56Speaker 01

  No, no.

• 1:51:57Joe Rogan?

  See if you can find those films. There's some weird, like, internal films that they made, that she was a part of.

• 1:52:05Speaker 01

  She looks like if a pageant lady, a pageant girl was grown up.

• 1:52:08Joe Rogan?

  Hundred percent.

• 1:52:09Speaker 01

  There, look at that.

• 1:52:11Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, well, I mean, she essentially was a pageant lady.

• 1:52:14Speaker 01

  Oh, really?

• 1:52:14Joe Rogan?

  Right? Wasn't she in like Miss USA or one of those things?

• 1:52:17Speaker 01

  I don't know, maybe.

• 1:52:18Joe Rogan?

  Wasn't she, Jamie?

• 1:52:19Speaker 01

  She's got that kind of face.

• 1:52:21Joe Rogan?

  Well, there's a thing that people want, right? That attention fame thing.

• 1:52:26Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:52:27Joe Rogan?

  That is what they really want. Okay, so Jamie will find it.

• 1:52:30Speaker 01

  She's got fireworks behind her. She's wild.

• 1:52:32Joe Rogan?

  Erica Kirk CIA video releases serious questions.

• 1:52:35Speaker 03

  That's the one I just played.

• 1:52:37Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:52:37Speaker 03

  It didn't have, it had a five second clip and the rest was not.

• 1:52:40Joe Rogan?

  Oh, well, the full video's out there. I watched it. And it's very weird.

• 1:52:45Speaker 03

  So it's the same video?

• 1:52:46Joe Rogan?

  So see if you play it. It's about EMP attacks and power grids.

• 1:52:50Speaker 03

  The whole rest of this was not that clip.

• 1:52:51Joe Rogan?

  None of it?

• 1:52:52Speaker 03

  Nope.

• 1:52:53Speaker 01

  Well, a gig's a gig. I think if you're a struggling actor, you'd take any kind of employee video or whatever.

• 1:52:58Joe Rogan?

  I guarantee you that video's out there. I mean, no one could have pulled it. Well, there's a, the Jimmy Dore video there. Here it is. Here it is. Look at this.

• 1:53:06Speaker 07

  Extremely vulnerable that we've presented to congressional officials. One being cyber, two being hackers, three being physical threats. Fourth one is solar EMP and the fifth one is manmade EMP. So the concern that we have is that we put out this critical information and when we go over this risk analysis, they hear what we're saying, but they don't want to take action. Take action.

• 1:53:30Joe Rogan?

  Well, there are 18 critical infrastructures.

• 1:53:32Speaker 03

  It's weird, but.

• 1:53:33Joe Rogan?

  Very weird. She's doing a CIA informational video.

• 1:53:37Speaker 01

  Weird.

• 1:53:38Speaker 03

  Is this like an acting gig or is this something else?

• 1:53:40Joe Rogan?

  Perhaps, or, you know, but even so, you're doing an acting gig for the CIA. Who calls you for that?

• 1:53:47Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:53:47Joe Rogan?

  You ever get one of those calls?

• 1:53:48Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:53:49Joe Rogan?

  No, I never got one of those calls.

• 1:53:50Speaker 01

  And my agent never hit me with that one.

• 1:53:51Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's odd. Well, there's a lot of people that think that she was his handler. She was Charlie Kirk's handler. But of course, there's a lot of people think I have handlers.

• 1:53:59Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:54:00Joe Rogan?

  You know?

• 1:54:00Speaker 01

  Well, you got about nine Navy SEALs out there.

• 1:54:02Joe Rogan?

  They're not handlers. They're my friends. They're not handlers. I know those guys.

• 1:54:05Speaker 01

  Okay. Well, they're tough dudes.

• 1:54:07Joe Rogan?

  You think they are? They are tough dudes.

• 1:54:08Speaker 01

  Wow, they know some stuff.

• 1:54:09Joe Rogan?

  There's a lot of kooks out there, bro.

• 1:54:11Speaker 01

  That's true. I mean, you just had a shooter on Sixth Street.

• 1:54:13Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:54:14Speaker 01

  Finally, a guy in Austin kills.

• 1:54:15Joe Rogan?

  Blah.

• 1:54:17Speaker 01

  Only with three people, though.

• 1:54:18Joe Rogan?

  Blah.

• 1:54:19Speaker 01

  We don't have to get into the Austin, New York debate.

• 1:54:22Joe Rogan?

  That's a stupid.

• 1:54:23Speaker 01

  Ah, it's all silly. What are we doing?

• 1:54:25Joe Rogan?

  Louis J. Gomez getting involved in these things.

• 1:54:28Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just more comedy, the better. Keep putting it in every city.

• 1:54:32Joe Rogan?

  I know, right?

• 1:54:33Speaker 01

  Yeah, give me more good clubs.

• 1:54:35Joe Rogan?

  How is New York these days?

• 1:54:36Speaker 01

  New York's good. I mean, we're humming. We got all these clubs opening up still and.

• 1:54:40Joe Rogan?

  More opening?

• 1:54:41Speaker 01

  More opening, yeah. It's crazy. And comedy's hot, as you know. Comedy has been.

• 1:54:47Joe Rogan?

  The more fucked up the world is, the more hot comedy is.

• 1:54:49Speaker 01

  That's probably true, yeah. Yeah, but it's legitimized now, you know? Everybody takes it seriously. Before, you were kind of a clown. Now they're like, oh, let's go see some comedy and listen to them talk about Iran.

• 1:54:59Joe Rogan?

  Well, I think one of the things that helped is podcasts, because people hear comics talk about it and they realize like, oh, these are thinking people that are going through this like very bizarre art form that doesn't have a playbook.

• 1:55:11Speaker 01

  Yes. And we have no rules. Where now Oscars have all these rules, we will never have rules.

• 1:55:16Joe Rogan?

  Thank God.

• 1:55:17Speaker 01

  And if we do, the whole art form is fucked.

• 1:55:19Joe Rogan?

  Well, they've tried to put rules in in certain clubs, and those clubs always fall apart.

• 1:55:23Speaker 01

  That's true.

• 1:55:24Joe Rogan?

  You know, you can't do that.

• 1:55:25Speaker 01

  Well, it's so fucking gay, because they're all like, we love Richard Pryor. I'm like, if he was around today, you'd hate him.

• 1:55:30Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:55:30Speaker 01

  He hit his wife, he was a drug addict, you know?

• 1:55:33Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:55:33Speaker 01

  He was a psycho.

• 1:55:34Joe Rogan?

  Kinnison.

• 1:55:34Speaker 01

  Kinnison!

• 1:55:35Joe Rogan?

  One of the fucking greatest comics that's ever lived, completely out of his mind. And also the best example of someone who did not punch up.

• 1:55:43Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:55:44Joe Rogan?

  He punched down all the time. He punched down about starving people in Africa.

• 1:55:49Speaker 01

  Yeah, I love, why did we decide punching down was not funny?

• 1:55:52Joe Rogan?

  They're stupid.

• 1:55:53Speaker 01

  It's hilarious!

• 1:55:54Joe Rogan?

  I had a guy on once that was a professor that taught comedy, and he wrote a book on comedy. And he tried to tell me that punching down is never funny. I go, that is wrong.

• 1:56:03Speaker 01

  It doesn't make sense.

• 1:56:04Joe Rogan?

  You're wrong. I go, because Sam Kinnison, one of the greatest bits of all time, was him doing a bit about the starving people in Africa.

• 1:56:11Speaker 01

  Right. Yeah, it's a legendary bit. Dave Attell has 18 minutes on midgets. That's literally punching down. Like, they're little, but it's funny. If it's funny, it's funny.

• 1:56:21Joe Rogan?

  If it's funny, it's funny. And sometimes it's funny because it's wrong.

• 1:56:24Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:56:24Joe Rogan?

  Sometimes it's funny, it's like, oh my God, what are you saying?

• 1:56:27Speaker 01

  Exactly. I know.

• 1:56:28Joe Rogan?

  Or Holtzman.

• 1:56:29Speaker 01

  Holtzman, hilarious.

• 1:56:30Joe Rogan?

  Perfect example. People try to take Holtzman literally. I've seen comics complain about the mothership because they let a guy come up and say these things.

• 1:56:38Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:56:39Joe Rogan?

  What guy? Brian Holtzman?

• 1:56:41Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:56:41Joe Rogan?

  Like, talk to Brian Holtzman offstage. It's Jekyll and Hyde.

• 1:56:45Speaker 01

  Completely, nicest guy in the world.

• 1:56:46Joe Rogan?

  Sweetheart of a guy.

• 1:56:47Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:56:48Joe Rogan?

  Friendly, loves everybody, super kind.

• 1:56:50Speaker 01

  He's like a camp counselor. He's wearing a polo and slacks.

• 1:56:52Joe Rogan?

  The nicest fella.

• 1:56:53Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:56:54Joe Rogan?

  Onstage, he becomes this character that he's created over the years, and it's amazing.

• 1:56:59Speaker 01

  But we do the hierarchy thing, and by that logic, I should be able to make fun of Asians, because they're doing the best.

• 1:57:05Joe Rogan?

  They are doing the best.

• 1:57:05Speaker 01

  Asians are number one, then honky, and then who knows, but... So by that logic, I should be able to do a ching chong, whatever.

• 1:57:12Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:57:12Speaker 01

  Because, you know, by your logic, hey, I'm punching up.

• 1:57:15Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:57:16Speaker 01

  They're killing it.

• 1:57:17Joe Rogan?

  They are, especially academically. I mean, they're killing it so hard that they've made rules to try to eliminate Asian people from universities.

• 1:57:25Speaker 01

  From college, yeah.

• 1:57:26Joe Rogan?

  Yes, there's fucking lawsuits about it. They made it more difficult. They have to get higher scores.

• 1:57:31Speaker 01

  That's crazy.

• 1:57:32Joe Rogan?

  It's not, because they kill it.

• 1:57:33Speaker 01

  They kill it.

• 1:57:34Joe Rogan?

  Because they work so hard.

• 1:57:34Speaker 01

  But what a crazy con... Hey, you look like that guy. We got too many of you guys who look like this.

• 1:57:39Joe Rogan?

  You're trying too hard. It's like a union job. Hey, slow down, son.

• 1:57:43Speaker 01

  Right, right.

• 1:57:44Joe Rogan?

  You're fucking it up for the rest of us.

• 1:57:45Speaker 01

  Yeah. But yeah, let them keep killing it. Let them be smart and invent shit and run the country. I don't care.

• 1:57:51Joe Rogan?

  Exactly. Make it so that, you know, there's legitimate competition where the other people realize, okay, we're not working as hard. They're working hard, and we gotta catch up.

• 1:58:00Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:58:01Joe Rogan?

  You can't just slow them down and remove them. There's too many Asians in Harvard. Fuck you.

• 1:58:07Speaker 01

  Yes, that's why in Japan, you can leave a Rolex on a bench.

• 1:58:10Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:58:10Speaker 01

  Because they're better in a lot of ways. Let them be better. We don't have to be the same.

• 1:58:15Joe Rogan?

  You know, that's the same thing about Dubai. A buddy of mine moved to Dubai, and he said... He's black and he was saying that in America, he goes, dude, I go to a nightclub, I worry about being shot. He goes, there's none of that there. And he goes, and if you could just leave a diamond, like a diamond ring on the ground, someone will pick it up and turn it to the police.

• 1:58:33Speaker 01

  Damn.

• 1:58:35Joe Rogan?

  There's no theft.

• 1:58:36Speaker 01

  How do they do that? Is that cultural? Is that raised better? What is that?

• 1:58:39Joe Rogan?

  Laws, hardcore laws. They have monarchs, they have kings. They have a king over there. Like, you can't fuck around. There's no fucking around. If you fuck around, they will lock you up and that's it. And there's no ifs, ands, or buts. There's no social justice warriors.

• 1:58:54Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:58:54Joe Rogan?

  There's no people that are gonna give you no cash bail and let you out because, you know, oh my god, the, the system's racist. No, no, no, no. You commit a crime, you go to fucking jail. So nobody goes to jail, because nobody commits crimes.

• 1:59:05Speaker 01

  Damn, is that what it is?

• 1:59:07Joe Rogan?

  Yes, yes. You fuck around over there, like, there's a, a American lady went over there and she got in arguments with people at the airport, and like, you're going to jail. They just locked her up. She was yelling at people. She was trying to do the thing to do at Spirit Airlines in America, like, uh-uh. Not here.

• 1:59:23Speaker 01

  Well, the fistfights on airplanes has gone up from, if you go nineteen sixty to two thousand twenty-five, it's gotta be up eight thousand percent.

• 1:59:30Joe Rogan?

  What happened?

• 1:59:31Speaker 01

  I don't know. What happened?

• 1:59:32Joe Rogan?

  What happened? Why we, why we lose our fucking marbles?

• 1:59:35Speaker 01

  Maybe because flights got cheaper and you get bus people on a flight. You know what I mean?

• 1:59:41Joe Rogan?

  Right, bus people are the people that are cutting people's heads off on fucking interstate truck, yeah.

• 1:59:47Speaker 01

  Yeah, I assume that's what it is. Because, you know, back in the day, they wore a suit and they had a cocktail and they smoked. But taking a flight back then was a, was a big, a big deal.

• 1:59:56Joe Rogan?

  You ever traveled by bus?

• 1:59:57Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:59:58Joe Rogan?

  I did a few, I did a few bus gigs back in the day because my car broke down and I didn't have any money. And so I had to travel by bus.

• 2:00:05Speaker 01

  It hurts.

• 2:00:06Joe Rogan?

  The people you have to hang out with are so, it's like the dregs of society. We're on these greyhounds.

• 2:00:13Speaker 01

  It really, you know where else you see that is, uh, I still do the free breakfast at the Holiday Inn. Oh, the characters you see in there. It's like a family, then it's a guy with a neck tattoo, an ex-con, a, a tweaky meth guy, and then me.

• 2:00:26Joe Rogan?

  I was watching a video about how people that don't stay in that hotel sneak into these hotels.

• 2:00:30Speaker 01

  I used to do that.

• 2:00:31Joe Rogan?

  Did you?

• 2:00:31Speaker 01

  Yeah, they just walk right in, you got pajama pants on, you, you pull an all-nighter, you go get the free breakfast. They're not gonna stop you. They assume you're staying there.

• 2:00:39Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, well, they just wanna make it nice for everybody.

• 2:00:42Speaker 01

  Yeah, you can make a waffle.

• 2:00:44Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but staying in a shitty hotel teaches you a lot about humans.

• 2:00:47Speaker 01

  That's true.

• 2:00:48Joe Rogan?

  That's what road gigs are really good for. You you meet the people that are working the fucking counter.

• 2:00:52Speaker 01

  Right.

• 2:00:53Joe Rogan?

  Some sad.

• 2:00:54Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:00:55Joe Rogan?

  Frowny faced dude working the counter.

• 2:00:57Speaker 01

  The crazy ones are those like, what do they call it when you like, you can kind of live there? They have a kitchenette.

• 2:01:01Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:01:01Speaker 01

  You know, the extended stay?

• 2:01:03Joe Rogan?

  Days in.

• 2:01:03Speaker 01

  Yeah, there's like dogs everywhere and and it's like people making making crack on the stove and shit.

• 2:01:09Joe Rogan?

  You know who's in a hotel now? Mickey Rourke.

• 2:01:11Speaker 01

  Really?

• 2:01:12Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he's in a hotel in Hollywood now. He got evicted.

• 2:01:15Speaker 01

  Huh.

• 2:01:15Joe Rogan?

  Doesn't have any money anymore.

• 2:01:16Speaker 01

  What?

• 2:01:17Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's a sad story.

• 2:01:19Speaker 01

  Ah, he was a hot guy and and a great actor.

• 2:01:22Joe Rogan?

  Oh, he was great.

• 2:01:23Speaker 01

  Rumble Fish.

• 2:01:24Joe Rogan?

  Oh, my god, dude, so many films. Angel Heart.

• 2:01:27Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 2:01:28Joe Rogan?

  Oh, my god, dude.

• 2:01:28Speaker 01

  So good.

• 2:01:29Joe Rogan?

  He was incredible. Well, Wrestler was when he was making a comeback.

• 2:01:32Speaker 01

  Right.

• 2:01:32Joe Rogan?

  So he made a comeback for a little bit. He was in Iron Man, remember?

• 2:01:35Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

• 2:01:36Joe Rogan?

  He was great. But, you know, I don't know, man, I think.

• 2:01:39Speaker 01

  He got a lot of work done.

• 2:01:40Joe Rogan?

  He did, but he made it after he got a lot of work done. He still, the comeback, the Wrestler and everything was after the work.

• 2:01:46Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:01:46Joe Rogan?

  You know, but but the thing was like, he did a lot of boxing.

• 2:01:49Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 2:01:51Joe Rogan?

  Remember, like, he didn't like the fact that he was like a big actor. He wanted to be more of like a real person and a man.

• 2:01:57Speaker 01

  Mm.

• 2:01:57Joe Rogan?

  So he started having fights. So he's having like legitimate boxing, allegedly legitimate.

• 2:02:02Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:02:03Joe Rogan?

  Some of them look sus.

• 2:02:04Speaker 01

  Sure.

• 2:02:04Joe Rogan?

  Some of them look like people laid down. But when you think about that, if he's sparring, so he was sparring like James Tony and like real people.

• 2:02:11Speaker 01

  Mm.

• 2:02:12Joe Rogan?

  He's probably getting the fucking brains beaten out of them, and he probably went a little squirrely.

• 2:02:15Speaker 01

  Yeah, C T is no joke.

• 2:02:17Joe Rogan?

  It's no joke, dude.

• 2:02:18Speaker 01

  It'd be the Aaron Hernandez, all these guys.

• 2:02:20Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah. Oh, a lot of these MMA fighters that I talked to, like, you know, they're struggling.

• 2:02:25Speaker 01

  Yeah, who who are these ladies who are like, ah, I'll date this guy?

• 2:02:28Joe Rogan?

  Cause they're exciting and dangerous, that's why.

• 2:02:30Speaker 01

  Dangerous, they'll fucking hang ya. You know, I think he hung himself, actually.

• 2:02:36Joe Rogan?

  Who hung himself?

• 2:02:37Speaker 01

  Aaron Hernandez.

• 2:02:38Joe Rogan?

  Oh, in jail, right? But he had killed a bunch of people already.

• 2:02:41Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:02:42Joe Rogan?

  He was killing people while he was in the NFL. Yeah, he was a wild motherfucker, but then they said when they checked his CTE after he was dead, like yeah, like some of the worst CT they've ever seen in their life. Yeah, his brain was gone.

• 2:02:55Speaker 01

  Well, there you go.

• 2:02:56Joe Rogan?

  A friend of mine who has CTE was explaining it to me. And the way um the doctors explained to him like, most people have uh several steps to go to before they lose control of their impulses. Like you have an initial thought and then your brain comes in and goes, don't do that.

• 2:03:13Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:03:14Joe Rogan?

  And then there's another one ramps up a little bit. This is getting serious, but let's not get out of hand. But someone with CTE, first initial thought, right into DEFCON five.

• 2:03:24Speaker 01

  Whoa.

• 2:03:25Joe Rogan?

  Immediately go.

• 2:03:26Speaker 01

  No buffer.

• 2:03:26Joe Rogan?

  No buffer.

• 2:03:27Speaker 01

  Oof.

• 2:03:28Joe Rogan?

  No, no impulse control. Cocaine, women, whiskey.

• 2:03:32Speaker 01

  Right.

• 2:03:32Joe Rogan?

  What it is, like the most, especially when booze, you add booze, loss of inhibition.

• 2:03:37Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 2:03:37Joe Rogan?

  No impulse control, whang.

• 2:03:39Speaker 01

  Poo.

• 2:03:40Joe Rogan?

  Shoot out with the cops, you know, it's like.

• 2:03:42Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:03:42Joe Rogan?

  Right, right to the worst case scenario.

• 2:03:44Speaker 01

  Remember that Bill Burr bit? He's like, I'm driving down the street, I see a bunch of people on the sidewalk. Just quarter inch turn to the right, I'll just mow them all down.

• 2:03:51Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:03:51Speaker 01

  You have that thought, but then you don't do it.

• 2:03:53Joe Rogan?

  Everybody has those thoughts.

• 2:03:54Speaker 01

  Yeah, you go up on the top of a buil- a building and you're like, ah, I could jump.

• 2:03:57Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:03:58Speaker 01

  You have that for a second, then you you pull back.

• 2:04:00Joe Rogan?

  Some people just don't have it.

• 2:04:02Speaker 01

  I guess so.

• 2:04:02Joe Rogan?

  Especially, well, brain damage is basically like, think about like if you have a fucked up phone. Like I I dropped my phone once and I was in Hawaii and it just started calling people.

• 2:04:13Speaker 01

  Really?

• 2:04:13Joe Rogan?

  I was showing my wife, like, look at this, this is crazy. Like you hang up, calls another person. Hang up, calls, it was just broken.

• 2:04:19Speaker 01

  Whoa.

• 2:04:20Joe Rogan?

  So that's your brain.

• 2:04:21Speaker 01

  Right.

• 2:04:22Joe Rogan?

  Right? All the wires are all fucked up and you got holes in there.

• 2:04:26Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:04:26Joe Rogan?

  CTE and.

• 2:04:28Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 2:04:28Joe Rogan?

  Chronic traumatic encephalopathy and.

• 2:04:31Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:04:32Joe Rogan?

  You know, your hormones are all fucked up, your cortisol's all fucked up.

• 2:04:35Speaker 01

  You gotta put their head in rice.

• 2:04:36Joe Rogan?

  And you're just like, all of a sudden, you're just running through red lights. You don't even know why you're doing it.

• 2:04:40Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:04:41Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:04:41Speaker 01

  Woo, probably kind of fun in the middle of it.

• 2:04:44Joe Rogan?

  Probably not. You're probably like, "Am I in control of my own destiny?" I'm not.

• 2:04:48Speaker 01

  Oof, man. Yeah, we're lucky we're saying, I mean, you, you've taken a lot of blows.

• 2:04:52Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:04:53Speaker 01

  Mentally and physically.

• 2:04:54Joe Rogan?

  I have the right amount of brain damage.

• 2:04:58Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 2:04:58Joe Rogan?

  I'm not worried about things.

• 2:04:59Speaker 01

  That's good.

• 2:05:00Joe Rogan?

  I don't concern myself about things that I think would cripple a lot of people.

• 2:05:03Speaker 01

  Right. Interesting.

• 2:05:05Joe Rogan?

  I think it makes me a little more fearless.

• 2:05:08Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's like autism. If you have just the right amount, you're a genius.

• 2:05:11Joe Rogan?

  A touch of the tism.

• 2:05:12Speaker 01

  A touch?

• 2:05:13Joe Rogan?

  Just a touch.

• 2:05:14Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 2:05:14Joe Rogan?

  You don't want to be non-verbal, but you want to be really good at math.

• 2:05:17Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah. It's almost like blind guys who can fucking do other shit.

• 2:05:22Joe Rogan?

  Right. They can hear better.

• 2:05:23Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, like.

• 2:05:25Joe Rogan?

  Echo-location.

• 2:05:26Speaker 01

  There you go.

• 2:05:26Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:05:27Speaker 01

  I mean, Stevie Wonder and Ray Charles.

• 2:05:29Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. I think I have just enough brain damage.

• 2:05:31Speaker 01

  That's, that's very interesting, because you wonder, how could you do this for so long? And do comedy, and do UFC, and, uh, drink, and smoke weed, and all, run a club? You got a lot of irons, and kids, and a wife, and a fucking dog, and you got JMo, and cars? You got a lot of plates spinning.

• 2:05:50Joe Rogan?

  But I'm still just me, because I don't have to ever be anybody but me.

• 2:05:55Speaker 01

  But you also do a ton of work on you. You do, do the fucking cold plums, the sauna, the working out, the kicking, the fighting, the comedy.

• 2:06:03Joe Rogan?

  That helps. That's, I always tell everybody that's going through anything like difficult in your life, do something more difficult voluntarily, and it makes the difficult thing easy. And so like, a career in the public eye is very difficult psychologically.

• 2:06:15Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:06:15Joe Rogan?

  So do something, like, my workouts are way harder than anything I ever experienced

• 2:06:19Speaker 01

  Oh, really?

• 2:06:20Joe Rogan?

  in regular life.

• 2:06:20Speaker 01

  And you do it to yourself?

• 2:06:21Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I do it to myself.

• 2:06:22Speaker 01

  That's the key.

• 2:06:23Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, so that when I'm done, like, I can kind of tolerate a lot.

• 2:06:26Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:06:26Joe Rogan?

  Like, if you do jiu-jitsu, like, I did jiu-jitsu for, what, 25, 28 years or something like that?

• 2:06:31Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:06:32Joe Rogan?

  Like, just doing that all the time is so hard, that the rest of the world seems easy.

• 2:06:38Speaker 01

  But were you beaten as a kid?

• 2:06:40Joe Rogan?

  No, no, no, no, no.

• 2:06:41Speaker 01

  I thought you got hit a few times. Or your mom got hit?

• 2:06:43Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:06:44Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 2:06:44Joe Rogan?

  Not me. Not me.

• 2:06:45Speaker 01

  That could have, that could have scrambled some stuff.

• 2:06:47Joe Rogan?

  It definitely did. Well, it made me more attuned to the potential of domestic violence, which scares the shit out of me. But I got hit a lot.

• 2:06:55Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 2:06:56Joe Rogan?

  But in fighting.

• 2:06:57Speaker 01

  Right.

• 2:06:58Joe Rogan?

  I mean, I started, started training when I was 15, seriously.

• 2:07:01Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah.

• 2:07:02Joe Rogan?

  So for all my formative years, I was getting my brains punched.

• 2:07:06Speaker 01

  Whoa.

• 2:07:07Joe Rogan?

  You know, I was getting kicked, I was getting punched, you know.

• 2:07:10Speaker 01

  Have you thought about getting like, that'd be cool to get a real brain scan exam on you.

• 2:07:14Joe Rogan?

  I don't wanna know what's in there.

• 2:07:15Speaker 01

  Alright, alright, just keep riding it out.

• 2:07:17Joe Rogan?

  I don't wanna know.

• 2:07:18Speaker 01

  Cause it's going well.

• 2:07:19Joe Rogan?

  It's going well, yeah, so I'll leave it alone. But I think like you have to have tools for managing stress and one of the best tools, I think, is voluntary adversity.

• 2:07:29Speaker 01

  I think so too.

• 2:07:29Joe Rogan?

  Where you force yourself, cause it gives you discipline and you understand like that you can control a lot of the way you think and a lot of the way you behave by your actions.

• 2:07:37Speaker 01

  Right.

• 2:07:38Joe Rogan?

  And it's also like, I don't wanna do it every time, like today.

• 2:07:40Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 2:07:41Joe Rogan?

  Today I got in the cold plunge and I was, every time I do it, I'm trying to figure out ways that I could talk myself out of doing it.

• 2:07:47Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 2:07:47Joe Rogan?

  And then I have one part of my brain that's talking like a bitch and the other part of my brain is like, shut the fuck up, you're just gonna do it. You're not even gonna think about it, you're not gonna hesitate, you're just gonna lift the lid off of that thing, you're gonna set the timer, you're gonna slide into that 34 degree water and you're just gonna fucking sit there. And you're not gonna bitch and complain, you're just gonna breathe and don't overreact, just, just deal with it.

• 2:08:09Speaker 01

  And it keeps you in reality.

• 2:08:10Joe Rogan?

  Yes.

• 2:08:10Speaker 01

  This is real, I'm freezing.

• 2:08:12Joe Rogan?

  You could die.

• 2:08:12Speaker 01

  You could die.

• 2:08:13Joe Rogan?

  You could die.

• 2:08:14Speaker 01

  Or you're lifting weights, you're like, this sucks, but I'm, I'm doing it.

• 2:08:17Joe Rogan?

  When you're doing sprints on the air dye machine, it sucks.

• 2:08:19Speaker 01

  Well, also, the society, the population is more comfortable than ever. I mean, you got Uber Eats, you got Netflix, you got all these comforts, so they're going the other way.

• 2:08:27Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:08:28Speaker 01

  And then we're kind of decaying as well.

• 2:08:30Joe Rogan?

  There's a guy named Michael Easter, he's been on my podcast before, he wrote a book called The Comfort Crisis, great book.

• 2:08:35Speaker 01

  Oh, there you go.

• 2:08:35Joe Rogan?

  He's a professor in UNLV, I think, but he like talks about it from like a perspective of like how to ban, like really manage and balance out life and that comfort is your enemy. It really is.

• 2:08:51Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:08:51Joe Rogan?

  It's 100% your enemy, there's no way of fans or butts about it, like the desire to constantly be comfortable, it doesn't get you anywhere in life and it doesn't make you happy.

• 2:08:59Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:09:00Joe Rogan?

  You think you're gonna be happy if you're comfortable, you're not.

• 2:09:02Speaker 01

  No.

• 2:09:03Joe Rogan?

  You gotta be comfortable sometimes, but you have to earn that comfort.

• 2:09:06Speaker 01

  Right.

• 2:09:07Joe Rogan?

  I still watch T, like I told you, I watched that guy cook fucking.

• 2:09:10Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah.

• 2:09:11Joe Rogan?

  An ostrich, he, he baked an ostrich.

• 2:09:14Speaker 01

  That's crazy.

• 2:09:15Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, and I watched the whole thing, I'm sitting there like a moron.

• 2:09:18Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:09:18Joe Rogan?

  Because the world's on fire, I'm like, let me watch this guy cook in Azerbaijan and go, super.

• 2:09:23Speaker 01

  But it's better to watch that than Love is Blind or some horse shit.

• 2:09:26Joe Rogan?

  I can't watch those things.

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• 2:10:27Speaker 01

  I can't either.

• 2:10:28Joe Rogan?

  I don't like watching people behave badly.

• 2:10:30Speaker 01

  I get, I feel myself being dumber.

• 2:10:32Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:10:33Speaker 01

  I feel slower after watching them.

• 2:10:35Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I like watching interesting things about space. I was watching something about the James Webb Telescope and what they're finding out now.

• 2:10:41Speaker 01

  Ooh.

• 2:10:42Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, some new guy that has some theory about how the universe is not expanding and is, I'm fascinated by really interesting things and just people doing things that they love to do.

• 2:10:54Speaker 01

  Well, Jimmy Carr said the key to life is two words: prioritize later. And that's big. You don't want to exercise, but you do it so you're healthy.

• 2:11:03Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:11:04Speaker 01

  You know, you don't want to eat healthy or eat right. You want the pizza, you want the Snickers, but you think about later.

• 2:11:10Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:11:10Speaker 01

  And I think that's a big one.

• 2:11:11Joe Rogan?

  Right. You want your comedy to do well, you got to write.

• 2:11:13Speaker 01

  You got to write.

• 2:11:14Joe Rogan?

  Sit down in front of that fucking computer or the notebook and just concentrate and then do those sets that you know. Some of the best sets that I've ever had are the ones where I'm sitting at home going, can I get an excuse to not do this?

• 2:11:24Speaker 01

  Of course.

• 2:11:25Joe Rogan?

  I would be in my house not wanting to go to the store.

• 2:11:27Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 2:11:28Joe Rogan?

  And I was like, ah, I don't want to do it. And then I would kill.

• 2:11:30Speaker 01

  And you're always happy you did it, every single time.

• 2:11:33Joe Rogan?

  Every time, every time.

• 2:11:34Speaker 01

  I'm a big introvert, so I would always go, I can't go to that party or that thing sounds annoying, but if I go, I'm like, that was great. I had a great time.

• 2:11:41Joe Rogan?

  It's weird that you're an introvert.

• 2:11:42Speaker 01

  Big introvert.

• 2:11:43Joe Rogan?

  Because you're so, but you're so good publicly.

• 2:11:46Speaker 01

  Well, I mean, we do an art form that's pre-written.

• 2:11:50Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:11:50Speaker 01

  So.

• 2:11:51Joe Rogan?

  But you're also good like this.

• 2:11:52Speaker 01

  But it's me and you.

• 2:11:53Joe Rogan?

  But you're also good in interviews in like Good Morning America, one of those fucking stupid shit.

• 2:11:57Speaker 01

  I'm a goofball.

• 2:11:58Joe Rogan?

  I know, but you know what I'm saying? Like, you're really good at those.

• 2:12:00Speaker 01

  But I can do it one on one, but i- in a group setting, I'm a mess.

• 2:12:04Joe Rogan?

  Mmm.

• 2:12:05Speaker 01

  It's not pretty. And I sit at home and I go, "I can't go, I can't, what if I say something stupid? Nobody likes me, I'm annoying, ah!" And then I, everything, everything tells me to stay home, but I just push it.

• 2:12:15Joe Rogan?

  But don't you think it's healthier to have that perspective, like, "Oh, people are gonna hate me, they're gonna..." Then everybody loves me.

• 2:12:21Speaker 01

  Of course, yeah, I don't wanna be that guy.

• 2:12:23Joe Rogan?

  That doesn't work, right?

• 2:12:24Speaker 01

  No.

• 2:12:25Joe Rogan?

  That's like, whenever I talk to people, they say I got imposter syndrome, I go, "Good, that means you're healthy."

• 2:12:29Speaker 01

  Ooh.

• 2:12:30Joe Rogan?

  Everybody who's doing really well gets imposter syndrome.

• 2:12:33Speaker 01

  Right, right. David Tell thinks he's a hack, he's the funniest guy on the planet.

• 2:12:36Joe Rogan?

  Right? Everybody who's really killing it in life, at certain point in time, goes, "This doesn't make any sense."

• 2:12:42Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:12:42Joe Rogan?

  Why am I even doing well? Why is this so good?

• 2:12:44Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:12:45Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:12:46Speaker 01

  But now, do we, are we just blessed in that way that we hate ourselves, or insecure, or are we... Uh, do we have to find that out?

• 2:12:55Joe Rogan?

  Well...

• 2:12:55Speaker 01

  Cause I'm jealous of the guy who's cool and collected.

• 2:13:00Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but they're probably jealous of you, cause you're talented. I think that the thing about it is, it's like, if you really believe you're something better than you are, that prevents you from getting better than you could be.

• 2:13:10Speaker 01

  I agree. Yeah, yeah. If you, if you think you're great, you're fixing something and you go, "Ah, it's good, I did it." And then it falls apart.

• 2:13:17Joe Rogan?

  We all remember that from like the beginnings of our career, like there's guys that thought they killed.

• 2:13:22Speaker 01

  Yes, yes.

• 2:13:23Joe Rogan?

  And they were terrible.

• 2:13:23Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:13:24Joe Rogan?

  They were bombing, no one was laughing.

• 2:13:25Speaker 01

  Right.

• 2:13:25Joe Rogan?

  And they're like, "Ah, that was a great set." You're like, "What did you hear?"

• 2:13:29Speaker 01

  You see all these 400-pound skanks who are like, "I'm a 10."

• 2:13:32Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:13:32Speaker 01

  You're like, "What, are you kidding? You're an ogre."

• 2:13:34Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:13:34Speaker 01

  But, you know.

• 2:13:35Joe Rogan?

  But that's that weird, those shows where they sit those ladies down, and I don't like those shows.

• 2:13:40Speaker 01

  I don't like those either. They're, they're too mean to the, to the gals, but, and like, I call everybody skanks, but... I'm not gonna just say that to a woman's face or whatever, so those make me uncomfortable.

• 2:13:50Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, even the girl, the gals that deserve it, I'm like, oh god, don't, just don't talk to them.

• 2:13:54Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:13:55Joe Rogan?

  Don't do that to them.

• 2:13:56Speaker 01

  No, no, no, it's weird.

• 2:13:57Joe Rogan?

  People love it. They love it when people get shut down.

• 2:14:00Speaker 01

  They really do.

• 2:14:01Joe Rogan?

  They love it. They love it when a really stupid person with like delusional perspective talks to a genius.

• 2:14:07Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:14:07Joe Rogan?

  Annihilated.

• 2:14:09Speaker 01

  I know, but I'd feel icky leaving that studio.

• 2:14:12Joe Rogan?

  Oh, I would. I feel icky watching it. Even like the little clips. I'm like, oh, what are you doing to that poor lady?

• 2:14:18Speaker 01

  I know.

• 2:14:18Joe Rogan?

  Some of them deserve it.

• 2:14:22Joe Rogan?

  You know, they have ridiculous perspectives, their, their vocabulary sucks and they try to use it anyway.

• 2:14:27Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. And look, maybe they should be, it's like cops. I see them shutting criminals down and I'm like, thank god they're here. Cause I don't wanna do it. I would never wanna, imagine giving someone a parking ticket? Oh, I'd kill myself.

• 2:14:40Joe Rogan?

  Boy, how about pulling someone over and thinking they're gonna shoot you?

• 2:14:42Speaker 01

  Well, that's a whole nother thing, yeah.

• 2:14:44Joe Rogan?

  They're all, they're, all those guys have PTSD.

• 2:14:47Speaker 01

  How could you not?

• 2:14:48Joe Rogan?

  I was talking to a friend of mine who worked for the Austin PD and he said, listen, Matt, and he was in the, he served overseas and was deployed several times. And he said, I saw way more shit wa- working for the police department than I ever saw overseas.

• 2:15:00Speaker 01

  Oh, wow.

• 2:15:01Joe Rogan?

  Way more murders, way more crime, way more dead bodies.

• 2:15:03Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 2:15:04Joe Rogan?

  Way more fucked up behavior.

• 2:15:05Speaker 01

  And then we shit on them. We go, def- defund them, they fuck cops, ACAB or whatever. And I'm like, we need them, we need those guys.

• 2:15:11Joe Rogan?

  More of that stupid virtue signaling. Cause those people, remember when that lady who was the mayor of, uh, Chicago was like all about? Yeah, all about defund the police. Meanwhile, she had her block shut down, she had armed guards with her everywhere.

• 2:15:24Speaker 01

  Right.

• 2:15:25Joe Rogan?

  Come on, lady.

• 2:15:26Speaker 01

  Yeah, and I get it, cops aren't perfect. We gotta have different money allotted to certain things or whatever, but.

• 2:15:32Joe Rogan?

  They need to be trained better for sure.

• 2:15:33Speaker 01

  Yeah, but you can't just shit on this guy. He's, he's taking bullets to the head just so we can be safe.

• 2:15:38Joe Rogan?

  It's literally one of the most important jobs in a functioning society.

• 2:15:42Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:15:43Joe Rogan?

  To stop criminals from ruining everything for everybody else. And the only shield between us and them is police officers.

• 2:15:50Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 2:15:50Joe Rogan?

  You don't appreciate that, you just don't know. You, you're, you're either delusional, you're, you're arrogant, whatever it is. You need, you should go on a ride along.

• 2:15:59Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 2:16:00Joe Rogan?

  A lot of people that have been on ride alongs, they go on ride alongs.

• 2:16:02Speaker 01

  Good idea.

• 2:16:03Joe Rogan?

  I haven't been on one, I should just say that right away, but I know enough cops, I've talked to them. But if you go on a ride along, you'll go, oh. These guys are dealing with this for decades.

• 2:16:12Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:16:13Joe Rogan?

  Not just one night, not just a couple of nights.

• 2:16:15Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:16:15Joe Rogan?

  Decades of fucking chaos.

• 2:16:17Speaker 01

  Why would they do that?

• 2:16:20Joe Rogan?

  Because it's a good job, it's a good job. You can pay your mortgage, you can, you know, raise a family. And, you know, you come out of the military, you know what you're gonna do, you get a job in the police force.

• 2:16:29Speaker 01

  And you feel good, probably. You go, ah, I'm helping, I'm saving people's lives.

• 2:16:33Joe Rogan?

  A lot of times, a lot of times you are helping.

• 2:16:34Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:16:34Joe Rogan?

  A lot of times you're stopping bad guys.

• 2:16:36Speaker 01

  Well, I've noticed a lot of people who hate cops are very cop-like. You know, like these people like, defund the police, and they're like, don't do that joke, don't say that word. I'm like, you're like a cop.

• 2:16:46Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:16:46Speaker 01

  You know, there's a lot of that. Like, a lot of people who hate Trump, I notice are a lot like Trump. Like, I'm not a Trump guy, but these people are like, they're also kind of a narcissist and an egomaniac. And I'm like, you're like him.

• 2:16:57Joe Rogan?

  Like, girls who are promiscuous, who talk shit about girls fucking other guys.

• 2:17:01Speaker 01

  Right, right.

• 2:17:01Joe Rogan?

  Right? That's always the case.

• 2:17:02Speaker 01

  Always. Yeah, yeah, it's, uh...

• 2:17:05Joe Rogan?

  There's always people like that.

• 2:17:06Speaker 01

  I think you hate yourself.

• 2:17:07Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:17:08Speaker 01

  Kind of. Like, Jew-Palestine, they look the same, they're not that different.

• 2:17:11Joe Rogan?

  I used to joke about that.

• 2:17:12Speaker 01

  No way!

• 2:17:13Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I said, when I look at Israel versus Palestine, I go, it's like the Williams sisters playing each other in tennis.

• 2:17:20Speaker 01

  Right.

• 2:17:20Joe Rogan?

  I go, who the fuck is who? I go, there's a brown-skinned guy with dark, curly hair throwing rocks, and a brown-skinned guy with dark, curly hair holding a machine gun.

• 2:17:28Speaker 01

  Exactly.

• 2:17:29Joe Rogan?

  Like, what the fuck?

• 2:17:30Speaker 01

  I have a similar bit about how the people who hate each other most, they look alike. Like, Ireland's been fighting, North Korea, South Korea, floods in the crypts.

• 2:17:38Joe Rogan?

  North Korea and South Korea is the best example.

• 2:17:40Speaker 01

  It goes on for days.

• 2:17:41Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, they hate each other, you're literally in the same patch of dirt.

• 2:17:43Speaker 01

  Russia, Ukraine.

• 2:17:44Joe Rogan?

  You look exactly the same.

• 2:17:45Speaker 01

  You look the same!

• 2:17:46Joe Rogan?

  You look the same.

• 2:17:47Speaker 01

  I know. Women.

• 2:17:48Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:17:49Speaker 01

  They hate each other.

• 2:17:49Joe Rogan?

  A lot of them do.

• 2:17:50Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:17:51Joe Rogan?

  Competition, though.

• 2:17:51Speaker 01

  I know, that's primal shit.

• 2:17:53Joe Rogan?

  They all want prime dick.

• 2:17:54Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:17:55Joe Rogan?

  They all get mad, someone's getting the prime dick.

• 2:17:58Speaker 01

  Hot girl walks into a party, my wife hates her.

• 2:18:00Joe Rogan?

  Really?

• 2:18:00Speaker 01

  She's like, fuck this bitch. I'm like, she's nice, she gives to the poor, she's charitable, and she's like, I hate her.

• 2:18:05Joe Rogan?

  One of my wife's friends got super upset because someone showed up at her wedding. Uh, it was a date, this guy brought a date, and the date was super hot, and she had her tits out, and this lady was furious.

• 2:18:15Speaker 01

  Yeah, it goes, it's an eight. She was, you know, she just overdid it. Right, right, exactly.

• 2:18:22Joe Rogan?

  Listen, that lady could show up with a fucking, like a Jabba the Hutt outfit on.

• 2:18:27Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:18:27Joe Rogan?

  And you would hate her. She's hot. She's hot. She could have a cloak. She could be dressed like a monk. You'd hate her.

• 2:18:32Speaker 01

  Well, in college, I lived with a guy who was six nine. He was just like this big, beefy, midwestern football player guy. And every bar we'd go to, guys would try to fight him.

• 2:18:42Joe Rogan?

  Of course.

• 2:18:42Speaker 01

  He was like a Birkenstock wearing, kinda weed smoking guy. And everybody, every guy's like, "You got a problem? Well, you think you're tough? You think you're hot shit? You think you're better than me?" And he's like, "Dude, I'm just sitting here drinking." And he would have to fight these guys.

• 2:18:54Joe Rogan?

  Bro, I've seen that happen with MMA fighters.

• 2:18:56Speaker 01

  Really?

• 2:18:56Joe Rogan?

  People try to pick fights with MMA fighters. They get drunk and they're retarded and they just think, "Oh, fuck this guy up."

• 2:19:01Speaker 01

  Yes. That's crazy.

• 2:19:04Joe Rogan?

  Stupid. There's a lot of morons in this world. It's too easy to survive. It's too easy to be a moron. We need wolves in the streets. We need predators everywhere.

• 2:19:12Speaker 01

  Right.

• 2:19:13Joe Rogan?

  We need something like a real fear of the consequences of your actions.

• 2:19:17Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's why animals stay in line.

• 2:19:19Joe Rogan?

  Exactly.

• 2:19:20Speaker 01

  You know, we talk all this shit about animals, but they're like, they're keeping, they got gender roles. They're doing all the shit we're not supposed to do.

• 2:19:26Joe Rogan?

  Not a lot of non-binary wolves.

• 2:19:29Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:19:30Joe Rogan?

  They don't make it.

• 2:19:31Speaker 01

  The male penguin gets the fish, the female watches the eggs. If they go, if he was like, "I wanna be a graphic designer, fuck this shit," like, it would collapse.

• 2:19:38Joe Rogan?

  Exactly.

• 2:19:39Speaker 01

  It would all fall apart.

• 2:19:40Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. The idea of gender roles, like, you know, I had this lady on, um, who was, uh, explaining the, the roots of feminism. It was the strangest conversation because, uh, she was, uh, talking about how all these people that started, like, radical feminism were all completely fucked up. They were all out of their fucking minds.

• 2:20:00Speaker 01

  Right.

• 2:20:00Joe Rogan?

  They're all, they're all like, having all these affairs, not raising their kids, like, completely self-obsessed.

• 2:20:07Speaker 01

  Right.

• 2:20:07Joe Rogan?

  And they're the ones who tricked all these women into being girl bosses.

• 2:20:10Speaker 01

  Oh, wow.

• 2:20:11Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:20:12Speaker 01

  Well, anytime someone is too outlandish about something, there's always a, a trigger for that. There's always a reason.

• 2:20:18Joe Rogan?

  Uh huh.

• 2:20:18Speaker 01

  No, no matter what it is.

• 2:20:19Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:20:20Speaker 01

  "I'm gonna take down these pedophiles." And you're like, "What's gonna, what's in your basement?"

• 2:20:23Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:20:24Speaker 01

  You know?

• 2:20:24Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:20:25Speaker 01

  I mean, I'm against pedophiles.

• 2:20:26Joe Rogan?

  Well, have you seen, like, when they did this, uh, like, when Pizza Gate was happening?

• 2:20:31Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:20:31Joe Rogan?

  There was all these people that debunked Pizza Gate. Four of the journalists that debunked Pizzagate got arrested for either child sex crimes or child porn.

• 2:20:40Speaker 01

  Wow, there you go.

• 2:20:42Joe Rogan?

  Isn't that crazy?

• 2:20:43Speaker 01

  It's, it's-

• 2:20:43Joe Rogan?

  Guys are like, this is an unfounded conspiracy theory, this is all bullshit.

• 2:20:47Speaker 01

  Right.

• 2:20:48Joe Rogan?

  They were pervs.

• 2:20:49Speaker 01

  It's like, same with Bill Cosby. Why is he so gung ho about you pulling your pants up, speaking right, don't curse? There's something behind it, there's always something behind it.

• 2:20:57Joe Rogan?

  Yes, he's the best example, right?

• 2:21:00Speaker 01

  Yeah, Ellen, Ellen is up there, be kind, I'm dancing, that's just the coos of the year.

• 2:21:05Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, well, I knew about that a long time ago, because Fitzsimmons worked for her.

• 2:21:09Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's right, he told everybody.

• 2:21:10Joe Rogan?

  Oh, he told everybody, and he told me, like, fucking decades ago, he's like, she's such a cunt.

• 2:21:16Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:21:17Joe Rogan?

  I was like, really? Ellen? I was shocked.

• 2:21:19Speaker 01

  I, me too, we all were.

• 2:21:20Joe Rogan?

  She seems so sweet, she seems so nice, he's like, dude, she's fucking horrible to her staff, she's horrible to everybody, I'm like, wow.

• 2:21:27Speaker 01

  Wow, there you go, everybody loved her.

• 2:21:29Joe Rogan?

  During the pandemic, when everybody was bored, before it all came out.

• 2:21:33Speaker 01

  Right, right.

• 2:21:33Joe Rogan?

  So I was like, hey, let me tell you something about that lady.

• 2:21:36Speaker 01

  But one, one interesting takeaway is the fact that she was kind of canceled for being gay in the 90s, and she came out of it and became a star, and then she got canceled for being mean, that's, that's progress.

• 2:21:47Joe Rogan?

  Ah. Yeah, but people celebrated her because she got canceled for being gay. They canceled her show, isn't that nuts? Like, you could get a show on the air now if you were playing at daycare.

• 2:21:58Speaker 01

  Right.

• 2:21:59Joe Rogan?

  They'd be like, ooh, diversity.

• 2:22:01Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 2:22:01Joe Rogan?

  This is like, gonna get greenlit.

• 2:22:02Speaker 01

  Yeah, well, it's funny how that gay used to be the ultimate insult, when I was in high school, and now I got friends like, tell them I'm bi. I'm trying to fit in.

• 2:22:10Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:22:10Speaker 01

  So it went from an insult to like, a, a cool thing.

• 2:22:13Joe Rogan?

  I'm pansexual, that's my favorite.

• 2:22:15Speaker 01

  Yes, yes.

• 2:22:15Joe Rogan?

  I'll fuck everybody. That's what it is, I'm attracted to everybody, like, that's nuts.

• 2:22:20Speaker 01

  But in 20 years, they're gonna be like, tell them I'm a child molester, I'm trying to fit in. Like, where does it end?

• 2:22:24Joe Rogan?

  Well, there are academics that are trying to say that these are minor attracted persons.

• 2:22:30Speaker 01

  I've heard of MAPS. That's bananas.

• 2:22:33Joe Rogan?

  Insane.

• 2:22:34Speaker 01

  Why aren't we talking, why isn't that a big story?

• 2:22:37Joe Rogan?

  Gad Saad calls it suicidal empathy.

• 2:22:39Speaker 01

  Ah.

• 2:22:39Joe Rogan?

  You get to a point where you're trying to justify everything and empathize with everything to the point where you make horrific actions and terrible crimes.

• 2:22:49Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:22:49Joe Rogan?

  Justifiable.

• 2:22:50Speaker 01

  Well, doesn't it kind of horseshoe, you know, like you see like an alt-right guy who'll draw a swastika on a synagogue and you're like, alright, that guy's a piece of shit. But then a liberal guy will do it on a cyber truck.

• 2:22:59Joe Rogan?

  Exactly.

• 2:23:00Speaker 01

  And you're like, what, you guys just met in the middle somehow?

• 2:23:02Joe Rogan?

  Exactly.

• 2:23:02Speaker 01

  Crazy.

• 2:23:03Joe Rogan?

  You're putting cyber truck, swastikas on cyber trucks because you think Elon Musk is a Nazi. Because he said, "My heart goes out to you" while he's trying to stop fraud and waste. And they're using the whole political machine to paint this guy as a Nazi. You're buying into it to virtue signal.

• 2:23:17Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:23:18Joe Rogan?

  And so to show that you're buying into it, you're keying Teslas.

• 2:23:22Speaker 01

  But when you look at the steps of it, it's fascinating.

• 2:23:25Joe Rogan?

  Well, it's the same.

• 2:23:26Speaker 01

  That we can get there.

• 2:23:27Joe Rogan?

  It's the same thing we were talking about earlier, like the religious right is the same thing as the religious left and Islamists.

• 2:23:33Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:23:33Joe Rogan?

  It's the same thing. It's like patterns of human behavior.

• 2:23:36Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:23:36Joe Rogan?

  Where you want to point at other people and not look at yourself and you want to think that your radical beliefs are fine.

• 2:23:42Speaker 01

  Right.

• 2:23:42Joe Rogan?

  And everybody else's radical beliefs are wrong.

• 2:23:44Speaker 01

  But we've gotten there with politics.

• 2:23:46Joe Rogan?

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:23:46Speaker 01

  And that's what's scary, because no one, people aren't, there's not even two parties anymore, there's two algorithms. Everybody's just seeing two totally different realities.

• 2:23:52Joe Rogan?

  Yes.

• 2:23:52Speaker 01

  Like, like these Iranian soccer player ladies who are too scared to go home and you're like, "Where's Rapinoe?"

• 2:23:58Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:23:59Speaker 01

  "Where's that, that lesbo, uh, that loudmouth? She's a justice warrior. This is, do some justice."

• 2:24:05Joe Rogan?

  Right, these people, they're fucking family back homes being kidnapped.

• 2:24:09Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:24:09Joe Rogan?

  These people are in like real danger.

• 2:24:11Speaker 01

  Yes, and they're-

• 2:24:12Joe Rogan?

  And no one's supporting them.

• 2:24:13Speaker 01

  Incredibly brave to do that, to show the hair, whatever they do, and they're scared to go home and then like their family members get tortured because they won't come back. It's fucking horrible.

• 2:24:21Joe Rogan?

  Exactly. I think those people sought refuge in Australia now.

• 2:24:25Speaker 01

  That's right.

• 2:24:25Joe Rogan?

  That's who they are. Yeah. I mean, their whole life has been ruined. They're fucked and no support from the left.

• 2:24:30Speaker 01

  Yeah, give a tweet.

• 2:24:31Joe Rogan?

  Zero.

• 2:24:31Speaker 01

  Something. Hashtag.

• 2:24:32Joe Rogan?

  It's crazy. Like, how do they like pick certain things-

• 2:24:36Speaker 01

  Right.

• 2:24:36Joe Rogan?

  -to support and other things they just blatantly ignore?

• 2:24:39Speaker 01

  It's fucking fascinating, it's so contradictory.

• 2:24:43Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:24:43Speaker 01

  You know, the right will be like, "Abortion's bad," but then they'll have an abortion.

• 2:24:46Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:24:47Speaker 01

  Behind the, behind the, you know-

• 2:24:48Joe Rogan?

  Sneaky style.

• 2:24:49Speaker 01

  Behind the curtain, yeah.

• 2:24:50Joe Rogan?

  Or like the left like get horribly mad at like the George Floyd violence.

• 2:24:55Speaker 01

  Right.

• 2:24:55Joe Rogan?

  Like, how do they do that to him? But then that lady in Charlotte gets stabbed on a train. Not a peep.

• 2:25:00Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:25:00Joe Rogan?

  Not a peep.

• 2:25:01Speaker 01

  Not a peep.

• 2:25:01Joe Rogan?

  You got some guy that's getting released from jail like fucking forty times. He's a violent offender.

• 2:25:05Speaker 01

  Right.

• 2:25:06Joe Rogan?

  Over and over again. Stabs some random lady who survived the Ukraine war. She was a refugee from Ukraine.

• 2:25:12Speaker 01

  And not a, not a bad looker.

• 2:25:13Joe Rogan?

  Hot.

• 2:25:14Speaker 01

  Very hot.

• 2:25:14Joe Rogan?

  That's the problem.

• 2:25:15Speaker 01

  Ah.

• 2:25:15Joe Rogan?

  Nobody feels sympathetic for a hot lady. She's got it too easy.

• 2:25:18Speaker 01

  Well, that's great. People are people.

• 2:25:20Joe Rogan?

  Nuts.

• 2:25:21Speaker 01

  Damn.

• 2:25:22Joe Rogan?

  Nuts.

• 2:25:22Speaker 01

  And then I feel like, like, some of this we're saying is controversial. But how is this controversial? We're just saying what is.

• 2:25:28Joe Rogan?

  In a world gone crazy, speaking sane is controversial.

• 2:25:32Speaker 01

  That's why it feels so fucking good when shit comes back to real, like, when, you know, we had to call fat people beautiful.

• 2:25:37Joe Rogan?

  Uh, then they're all on Ozempic.

• 2:25:39Speaker 01

  And they're all Ozempic. Like, what are we doing here? So now it's okay to go, alright, I, I like being thin. I wanna be hot.

• 2:25:45Joe Rogan?

  I know.

• 2:25:46Speaker 01

  But they never go, I was lying. I lied a bunch.

• 2:25:49Joe Rogan?

  I know.

• 2:25:49Speaker 01

  I was a fat piece of shit and I hated it. Lizzo's losing weight. She was the fat champion.

• 2:25:54Joe Rogan?

  I know. She's lost a lot of weight.

• 2:25:56Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:25:57Joe Rogan?

  She looks good now.

• 2:25:57Speaker 01

  She looks great, but I like fat Lizzo.

• 2:25:58Joe Rogan?

  And she's probably a lot healthier. It's like better for her.

• 2:26:01Speaker 01

  I'm sure. Of course.

• 2:26:02Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. I mean, it's very strange. People are mad at Jelly Roll for losing weight.

• 2:26:06Speaker 01

  Well, his name's Jelly Roll. He's like, you know, he fucked up.

• 2:26:09Joe Rogan?

  Well, now he's a, a jelly churro.

• 2:26:15Joe Rogan?

  He's lost three hundred fucking pounds with pure discipline.

• 2:26:18Speaker 01

  Is that, come on.

• 2:26:19Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, no Ozempic.

• 2:26:21Speaker 01

  Really?

• 2:26:22Joe Rogan?

  No Ozempic.

• 2:26:22Speaker 01

  What's he doing?

• 2:26:23Joe Rogan?

  He does testosterone replacement and exercise. That's it. And, and changed his diet.

• 2:26:28Speaker 01

  Damn.

• 2:26:28Joe Rogan?

  Eliminated sugar. Eliminated everything from his diet.

• 2:26:31Speaker 01

  Cause he was a big boy.

• 2:26:32Joe Rogan?

  He was five hundred pounds.

• 2:26:33Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 2:26:34Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. He lost three hundred. He's in the twos now.

• 2:26:37Speaker 01

  Hey.

• 2:26:37Joe Rogan?

  And then thirty-five pounds of it is extra skin.

• 2:26:40Speaker 01

  Ew.

• 2:26:41Joe Rogan?

  He's got crazy extra skin. He worked out with me in here. He, he had ran six miles the day before. Came into the studio before the podcast we did. He ran two and a half miles on, on the treadmill. I watched him.

• 2:26:51Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 2:26:52Joe Rogan?

  I mean, talking, like, in great shape. He's talking while he's running, laughing, joking around.

• 2:26:56Speaker 01

  Hey, good for him.

• 2:26:57Joe Rogan?

  Super nice to everybody.

• 2:26:59Speaker 01

  Nice.

• 2:26:59Joe Rogan?

  He's the sweet, the sweetest fucking guy you ever wanna meet.

• 2:27:02Speaker 01

  He's a very nice guy.

• 2:27:03Joe Rogan?

  To everybody, man. Everybody's, he's hugging everybody. He's like a sweet, kind guy and he's on the right path. And he's lost three hundred fucking pounds.

• 2:27:14Speaker 01

  Wow. Good for him.

• 2:27:15Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:27:16Speaker 01

  He's gotta change the name.

• 2:27:18Joe Rogan?

  No.

• 2:27:18Speaker 01

  You can't be Jelly Roll and thin.

• 2:27:20Joe Rogan?

  Just call him Jelly. I call him Jelly anyway.

• 2:27:23Speaker 01

  Jelly's fat.

• 2:27:24Joe Rogan?

  What is his real name? I've known that guy for fucking seven years. I don't even know his real name.

• 2:27:28Speaker 01

  Jason. Jason. You're Jason now, I'm sorry.

• 2:27:31Joe Rogan?

  No, I haven't known him for seven years. I met him at my club, so I've known him for three years.

• 2:27:35Speaker 01

  Alright.

• 2:27:35Joe Rogan?

  Jason. I didn't know that. I would've guessed like Brian.

• 2:27:39Speaker 01

  Yeah. Yeah, who knows?

• 2:27:41Joe Rogan?

  Who knows?

• 2:27:41Speaker 01

  But-

• 2:27:42Joe Rogan?

  It's cool that he's got a fake name, though. That's a good move.

• 2:27:44Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's a black guy move.

• 2:27:45Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, Wild Vanilla Ice.

• 2:27:47Speaker 01

  A black guy move. You know, Earthquake, they all have cool names. Lil Wayne, you gotta have a cool name for your black guy.

• 2:27:53Joe Rogan?

  Right, right. Very few comics have done that. Earthquake's one of the few.

• 2:27:57Speaker 01

  Yeah, we had Hamburger for a minute.

• 2:27:58Joe Rogan?

  Larry the Cable Guy.

• 2:27:59Speaker 01

  There you go.

• 2:28:00Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:28:00Speaker 01

  There's a white guy doing it. Dice Clay?

• 2:28:02Joe Rogan?

  Yes.

• 2:28:03Speaker 01

  That's a fake name.

• 2:28:04Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:28:05Speaker 01

  So a couple guys did it.

• 2:28:07Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, Dice Clay is just Dice. I just call him Dice.

• 2:28:09Speaker 01

  He just kind of turned into Dice.

• 2:28:11Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:28:11Speaker 01

  He just is Dice now.

• 2:28:12Joe Rogan?

  Well, most people don't know that he was Andrew Silverstein.

• 2:28:15Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 2:28:15Joe Rogan?

  And the Dice Man was one of many characters that he did on stage.

• 2:28:19Speaker 01

  Travolta, Jerry Lewis, he did a bunch of guys.

• 2:28:21Joe Rogan?

  Oh, he's got great impressions, man.

• 2:28:23Speaker 01

  He's a talented, he's a talented guy.

• 2:28:24Joe Rogan?

  He's not just a talented guy, that guy is a legitimate performance artist.

• 2:28:28Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 2:28:29Joe Rogan?

  He does performance art on the street for fun, for no money, and he's literally mocking the fact that he's not famous.

• 2:28:37Speaker 01

  Yes! That's comedy.

• 2:28:38Joe Rogan?

  The most ego-free-

• 2:28:40Speaker 01

  Right.

• 2:28:40Joe Rogan?

  -version of that shit.

• 2:28:42Speaker 01

  I opened for him once, and I was kind of nervous. He's, you know, he's a legend, and I went up to him and I was like, "Hello, Mr. Dice, just letting you know I'm your opener." He goes, "You want a picture?" And I'm like, "No, I'm just letting you know I'm your opener. How much time do you want me to do?" He goes, "You want a picture?" And I'm like, "I don't need any picture, just, how much time do you want me to do?" He goes, "Get over here!" And he gets me in a headlock and takes a picture. And I never, I just didn't know how much time to do, but he was fucking with me.

• 2:29:04Joe Rogan?

  He gave me great advice in the 90s.

• 2:29:06Speaker 01

  Uh-huh.

• 2:29:07Joe Rogan?

  I was doing news radio, and I was just doing the store and the Laugh Factory and the improv. He's like, "You should do the road." And I said, really? I go, why? He goes, you don't wanna be relying on these fucking jerk offs to make your living. He goes, you're a funny comic. He goes, you could be headlining all over the country, making a good living. You don't need these fucking people.

• 2:29:27Speaker 01

  That's really nice.

• 2:29:28Joe Rogan?

  It was the smartest thing that anybody ever taught me.

• 2:29:30Speaker 01

  You gotta do the road.

• 2:29:31Joe Rogan?

  I had to do the road because I was, you know, I was doing like 15 minute sets and then, you know, I never was really headlining for like a few years.

• 2:29:38Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:29:39Joe Rogan?

  And I did back when I lived in New York and then all of a sudden I was like, you know, he's right. And then I started really putting together an hour, like a solid hour on the road and it got way better.

• 2:29:48Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:29:49Joe Rogan?

  My act got way better and, and then I realized like if a show gets canceled, I can still make a living.

• 2:29:55Speaker 01

  Right.

• 2:29:56Joe Rogan?

  You know, like whereas everybody who just works and those poor comics that stopped doing the road and then become writers, that's even worse

• 2:30:03Speaker 01

  Oof.

• 2:30:04Joe Rogan?

  than being an actor.

• 2:30:05Speaker 01

  A thousand percent.

• 2:30:06Joe Rogan?

  Because nobody knows who you are.

• 2:30:07Speaker 01

  Right.

• 2:30:08Joe Rogan?

  And you're completely reliant on the scene to feed you. And then you have a mortgage.

• 2:30:13Speaker 01

  Right.

• 2:30:13Joe Rogan?

  And maybe you have a family, you have a wife and kids.

• 2:30:15Speaker 01

  I know.

• 2:30:16Joe Rogan?

  Maybe you have college you have to pay for.

• 2:30:17Speaker 01

  Those writers rooms are cushy though. You get air conditioning, you get snacks and you get a healthcare, you get a paycheck and you go into an office every day.

• 2:30:24Joe Rogan?

  But you're writing the funny stuff that that other person says.

• 2:30:27Speaker 01

  True.

• 2:30:27Joe Rogan?

  And in the back of your head, you know, like the reason why it's funny is because of my mind.

• 2:30:31Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:30:31Joe Rogan?

  And no one knows who I am.

• 2:30:32Speaker 01

  I know.

• 2:30:33Joe Rogan?

  It's a velvet prison.

• 2:30:35Speaker 01

  And then you see these 65 year old comics back on the funny bone train because they gotta make money.

• 2:30:40Joe Rogan?

  And no one knows who they are.

• 2:30:41Speaker 01

  And they can't sell a ticket.

• 2:30:42Joe Rogan?

  They can't sell a ticket.

• 2:30:43Speaker 01

  That is a bummer.

• 2:30:44Joe Rogan?

  It's a bummer.

• 2:30:45Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:30:45Joe Rogan?

  And all these guys that missed the podcast train too.

• 2:30:48Speaker 01

  Ooh.

• 2:30:49Joe Rogan?

  A lot of those guys like you're, they've kind of abandoned the bitterness, but years ago, guys were, they were really bitter.

• 2:30:55Speaker 01

  I remember that.

• 2:30:55Joe Rogan?

  Like, are you a comic or are you a podcast?

• 2:30:57Speaker 01

  Right.

• 2:30:58Joe Rogan?

  Well, I can't do both. What am I doing all day?

• 2:31:00Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's a cheat code. People get to know you. They listen to you every day or every week and then you get to go to their town.

• 2:31:05Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. And in conversation with people, you come up with ideas.

• 2:31:10Speaker 01

  That's true.

• 2:31:10Joe Rogan?

  That's a big one.

• 2:31:11Speaker 01

  That's true. Yeah. I mean, I think, I think this podcast saved the store.

• 2:31:15Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah. 100%. I was a part of it. I know for a fact it did. It changed everything.

• 2:31:20Speaker 01

  You had all those guys, Santino, Theo, all those.

• 2:31:23Joe Rogan?

  A hundred percent.

• 2:31:24Speaker 01

  Sure.

• 2:31:24Joe Rogan?

  A hundred percent changed the store. And it changed everybody's attitude towards each other because instead of being competition, like we're all struggling to try to get this one spot on a sitcom.

• 2:31:34Speaker 01

  Uh huh.

• 2:31:34Joe Rogan?

  Or this one host of a show. Instead, we're all like an asset to each other. Cause we're guests on each other's show. Hey, could you help me promote my Netflix special? Yeah, come on. And everybody's an asset.

• 2:31:45Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 2:31:46Joe Rogan?

  Everybody helps everybody.

• 2:31:47Speaker 01

  They help, yeah. You're a guest on theirs, they're a guest on yours. And it's so, uh, uh, low maintenance.

• 2:31:52Joe Rogan?

  Yes.

• 2:31:52Speaker 01

  You just set it up in a hotel room and put it out.

• 2:31:54Joe Rogan?

  Yes. And people love it because they love real conversations.

• 2:31:58Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:31:59Joe Rogan?

  And it's hard to get those in this weird world where everybody's communicating on social media.

• 2:32:02Speaker 01

  Well, it makes you think that maybe that's why actors have to play ball. Because they don't have this thing to rely on. So they gotta, you know.

• 2:32:09Joe Rogan?

  One hundred percent.

• 2:32:11Speaker 01

  And bullshit each other.

• 2:32:12Joe Rogan?

  The sane ones that I talk to, they talk about the deep pain that it gives them. They're having to fucking acquiesce to these people.

• 2:32:18Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah. Well, I just did, you know, I'm doing this crazy press tour with the special. I just did a late night show and it was fun. You do the couch. Yeah, you put makeup on, you put on a nice jacket and you, you yuck it up for the live audience. But you're just sitting there going, that guy's got a headset and a clipboard. What is she doing over there? He's like a page, he's an intern. It's so much wasted money.

• 2:32:39Joe Rogan?

  So much wasted money.

• 2:32:40Speaker 01

  And you're like, no wonder these are kind of going away.

• 2:32:42Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:32:42Speaker 01

  It's unnecessary.

• 2:32:43Joe Rogan?

  Well, that was the thing about the complaint about the Colbert show being canceled. They're like, you're censoring, you're censoring speech. But Colbert show was losing CBS forty to fifty million dollars a year.

• 2:32:55Speaker 01

  Hmm, Jesus. That's wild. Well, who watches it? I mean, I mean, no offense to these guys, they're all super talented, whatever, but it's like.

• 2:33:04Joe Rogan?

  The idea that they're supposed to keep that thing on the air while they're hemorrhaging money from it is crazy.

• 2:33:08Speaker 01

  And the guest is just like a crap shoot. Who, who we getting today? Snooki? Oh, great. I'm not gonna watch that.

• 2:33:13Joe Rogan?

  Snooki?

• 2:33:14Speaker 01

  I couldn't think of anybody relevant, but you know, they gotta sit and talk to Snooki. You got a, you got a book out, huh? Who's gonna watch that?

• 2:33:21Joe Rogan?

  That was Bill Hicks's old joke about Jay Leno killing himself. Do you remember that joke?

• 2:33:25Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 2:33:26Joe Rogan?

  Sitting down next to Joey Lawrence, "Hey, you got a girlfriend?"

• 2:33:28Speaker 01

  Exactly, exactly.

• 2:33:29Joe Rogan?

  And then he sticks an Uzi in his mouth and it blows out his brains. They form an NBC peacock.

• 2:33:34Speaker 01

  Yes, yes, exactly.

• 2:33:35Joe Rogan?

  Cause he's a company man to the bitter end.

• 2:33:36Speaker 01

  Well, that's why Conan, he saw the writing on the wall and he said, "I'm starting a pod."

• 2:33:40Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Well, he also left and did the TBS show, which was like way less pressure. You know, that was a good move. Cause he still got to do his own show and people watch it that are fans. It still kept an audience, but he still stayed himself.

• 2:33:54Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, that's true.

• 2:33:55Joe Rogan?

  He's a smart guy.

• 2:33:55Speaker 01

  He's a smart guy and he's

• 2:33:57Joe Rogan?

  Very funny guy.

• 2:33:58Speaker 01

  Super funny.

• 2:33:58Joe Rogan?

  Very funny guy.

• 2:33:59Speaker 01

  He helped me a lot in the early days, too.

• 2:34:01Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I was on his show way, way back in the day. A friend of mine was a writer on his show in the very beginning. And when I went to the filming, their banter was all planned out. They had

• 2:34:14Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 2:34:14Joe Rogan?

  They had these big like postboards.

• 2:34:17Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:34:18Joe Rogan?

  With all the dialogue and someone would be standing behind, what was the other guy's name?

• 2:34:22Speaker 01

  Richter?

• 2:34:23Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, Andy Richter. Someone would be standing behind Andy Richter and someone would be standing behind Conan. And so they would read the things that they were gonna say.

• 2:34:30Speaker 01

  Ah.

• 2:34:31Joe Rogan?

  It was all scripted out. I was like, "Oh, this is crazy."

• 2:34:33Speaker 01

  That's funny, cause when I did this late night show, they call you at like 10 in the morning, like, "What do you wanna talk about?" It's a, what do you call those guys?

• 2:34:39Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:34:39Speaker 01

  Like the producer guy who gives you the, and he's like, "What about this?" I'm like, "Nobody cares about that." He's like, "We'll talk about your writing process and how you got in the standup." I'm like, "That's just hack shit that's been done to death."

• 2:34:49Joe Rogan?

  Exactly.

• 2:34:50Speaker 01

  Let me riff.

• 2:34:51Joe Rogan?

  Let me riff.

• 2:34:51Speaker 01

  I'm a comic.

• 2:34:52Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Well, I did the Bob and Tom show once.

• 2:34:54Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 2:34:55Joe Rogan?

  They tried to do that to me.

• 2:34:56Speaker 01

  The worst.

• 2:34:57Joe Rogan?

  The producer got upset at me. Bob and Tom were great.

• 2:34:59Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, they're pros.

• 2:35:00Joe Rogan?

  The producers were upset with me. He like visibly upset. He goes, "Well, what are you gonna bring up?"

• 2:35:07Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:35:07Joe Rogan?

  And I go, "I don't know." He's like, "You don't know?" I go, "We're gonna have fun. Don't worry about it."

• 2:35:12Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:35:12Joe Rogan?

  I've done this a fucking million times.

• 2:35:13Speaker 01

  Exactly.

• 2:35:14Joe Rogan?

  Let's go in there and have a good time. Don't worry about it.

• 2:35:16Speaker 01

  I did it one, I was so green that they made me write on loose leaf setups. And I wrote like eight setups. So then he'd be like, "So I hear you have a dog." And I'm like, "Yeah," and I'd do my dog bit.

• 2:35:24Joe Rogan?

  Oh, it's horrible.

• 2:35:26Speaker 01

  I know. It was like school.

• 2:35:28Joe Rogan?

  That used to be all morning radio, guys doing their act on the radio.

• 2:35:32Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:35:33Joe Rogan?

  It was terrible.

• 2:35:33Speaker 01

  Terrible.

• 2:35:34Joe Rogan?

  Terrible. Fake con, you know what changed that? Opie and Anthony. Opie.

• 2:35:38Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:35:39Joe Rogan?

  Opie and Anthony was the beginning of podcasts.

• 2:35:42Speaker 01

  Not Stern?

• 2:35:43Joe Rogan?

  No, Stern was the beginning of free speech. Stern was the beginning of like being wild on the radio. He's the GOAT. Like, if it wasn't for him, none of this, we would have no podcasts. Well, I don't know if we wouldn't have a podcast, but the evolution of it would have been stalled radically.

• 2:35:57Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:35:58Joe Rogan?

  He was the guy that stuck his neck out. He was the guy that got fined. Like, during the Bush administration, people forget about that. They were going after him for indecency.

• 2:36:07Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:36:07Joe Rogan?

  Blas- well, not blasphemy, obscenity. They were fining the fucking stations insane amounts of money.

• 2:36:14Speaker 01

  Right.

• 2:36:15Joe Rogan?

  But he was so big that he stayed alive and survived that. But then Opie and Anthony came along and it was totally different. It was just wild and loose.

• 2:36:25Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:36:25Joe Rogan?

  And it was just Norton and Voss and Patrice and, and-

• 2:36:28Speaker 01

  Louis, Quinn.

• 2:36:29Joe Rogan?

  Louis and all of us.

• 2:36:30Speaker 01

  Apollo.

• 2:36:31Joe Rogan?

  And Ari, and we would all go in and I loved going there.

• 2:36:35Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:36:35Joe Rogan?

  I loved going. And then when Anthony started doing live from the compound. So he had this sick house in Long Island. They made a ton of money.

• 2:36:43Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:36:44Joe Rogan?

  And he had this sick house in Long Island and he built his own studio in his basement so he could livestream.

• 2:36:49Speaker 01

  Oh, wow.

• 2:36:50Joe Rogan?

  And he had like Guinness on tap and he had like real professional microphones and cameras and-

• 2:36:55Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 2:36:56Joe Rogan?

  It was nuts.

• 2:36:57Speaker 01

  Freedom.

• 2:36:57Joe Rogan?

  And I was like, wow, that's it. Like, and they were trying to get him to stop doing it.

• 2:37:01Speaker 01

  Really?

• 2:37:02Joe Rogan?

  They were saying, yeah, this is violating your con- he goes, I'm not making any money off of this.

• 2:37:05Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah.

• 2:37:05Joe Rogan?

  I'm just doing it.

• 2:37:06Speaker 01

  Love of the game.

• 2:37:07Joe Rogan?

  And they were upset that he was doing this on, on the internet.

• 2:37:10Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 2:37:11Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. And so he, and then Tom Green. Tom Green was a big one.

• 2:37:15Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, that was a big one.

• 2:37:16Joe Rogan?

  He did his, his internet show.

• 2:37:17Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:37:18Joe Rogan?

  But it was just totally loose. Like, there was no asking you what you wanted to talk about when you were sitting on the couch. Just came in and hung out.

• 2:37:24Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:37:25Joe Rogan?

  And Tom Green's a funny guy and he's smart and loose and we're having a good time and, and I was like, this is it. This is the future.

• 2:37:32Speaker 01

  He was weird, innovative. He got ball surgery on air. Remember that? He had ball cancer and he did the surgery on the show.

• 2:37:39Joe Rogan?

  Did he really?

• 2:37:40Speaker 01

  Yeah. He was ahead of the game, but these TV shows are so weird because they want comics on, but they don't want you to be a comic.

• 2:37:46Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:37:46Speaker 01

  These morning shows are like, "Oh, what's up, funny man?" And you're like, "Well, I had a toll." And they're like, "Cut it, cut it!" You know, I'm like, "I'm just being me."

• 2:37:52Joe Rogan?

  They're just scared.

• 2:37:53Speaker 01

  You had me on.

• 2:37:54Joe Rogan?

  They're scared. They get scared. You know, they get scared of losing their job. I mean, those people are really scared because they don't, nothing. All they have is like, "Hey, good morning."

• 2:38:03Speaker 01

  Right.

• 2:38:03Joe Rogan?

  "It's five past the hour. You know, here's Tom with the weather."

• 2:38:06Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:38:07Joe Rogan?

  It's like a bullshit fake gig.

• 2:38:08Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:38:09Joe Rogan?

  Anything can take it away from them. So all the stuff that they rely on, their fucking membership at the country club that they have to pay for, all that stuff could go away at any moment. They're all, they live terrified.

• 2:38:19Speaker 01

  That's a prison.

• 2:38:20Joe Rogan?

  I know.

• 2:38:20Speaker 01

  You might as well be a weatherman.

• 2:38:22Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, and even the weatherman, same thing.

• 2:38:24Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's a good gig, though.

• 2:38:26Joe Rogan?

  I guess.

• 2:38:26Speaker 01

  I mean, you just eight minutes, "Oh, the Doppler, huh?" You do some hand movements, and then you're done.

• 2:38:31Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. It's just, you live in hell. We're lucky as fuck.

• 2:38:35Speaker 01

  We're very lucky, and I'm very grateful.

• 2:38:36Joe Rogan?

  We're lucky as fuck. But this platform, like, the podcast platform that we all enjoy, that we all do, wouldn't have existed without Opie and Anthony. Opie and Anthony was the first time where comics got together and was, it was completely loose.

• 2:38:50Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:38:50Joe Rogan?

  It was just, there was no figuring out, like, what we're gonna say. Everybody was just riffing, they're all shitting on each other. And then when it went to XM, it was amazing.

• 2:39:01Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:39:01Joe Rogan?

  Because then you could swear.

• 2:39:02Speaker 01

  Right, right.

• 2:39:03Joe Rogan?

  Oh my god, it got crazy.

• 2:39:05Speaker 01

  If you've never heard it, go on YouTube and watch it. There's some fucking comedy gold on there.

• 2:39:09Joe Rogan?

  Gold. Especially the Patrice episodes.

• 2:39:12Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 2:39:12Joe Rogan?

  Oh my god, he was so good.

• 2:39:13Speaker 01

  That's where he really shined, you know? Him and Louis together, talking about Black vs. Mexican was amazing. And they do one episode where they talk about where the N-word came from, and Louis goes, "Well, I think it was just a bunch of guys being N-words."

• 2:39:26Speaker 01

  You never heard shit like that.

• 2:39:27Joe Rogan?

  Right, right.

• 2:39:28Speaker 01

  That was comedy gold.

• 2:39:29Joe Rogan?

  Well, you'd be free. And then, tough crowd.

• 2:39:32Speaker 01

  Yeah, that was another one.

• 2:39:33Joe Rogan?

  Another one, another kind of situation.

• 2:39:34Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah.

• 2:39:35Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, where comics just got together and just, and Colin Quinn was hosting it, and he's hilarious, and everybody's just riffing and fucking around, and Norton's chiming in, Nick DiPaolo's chiming in, and Greg Giraldo, when he was alive.

• 2:39:47Speaker 01

  Oh, brilliant guy.

• 2:39:48Joe Rogan?

  Oh, he was great.

• 2:39:49Speaker 01

  Yeah, but comedy's weird because, like, I got my special out, and it's only been out like a day or two, but I'm getting all these nice messages. "I love that bit, I love that bit." And those are the bits that didn't really... Do as well as some of the other ones. Isn't that weird how that works?

• 2:40:02Joe Rogan?

  Well, sometimes people just like something clever that's different than the way they think like, oh, I like that.

• 2:40:07Speaker 01

  Right, right.

• 2:40:08Joe Rogan?

  It isn't, you know, there's, there's bits that are just hilarious and there's other bits that just make me smile like, that's fucking great. That's a great bit.

• 2:40:15Speaker 01

  That's true.

• 2:40:16Joe Rogan?

  Just like Hicks said that once, like, if you're, if it's not gonna be funny, at least make it interesting.

• 2:40:21Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's good.

• 2:40:22Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, be funny, but just be you.

• 2:40:24Speaker 01

  But if you can be both?

• 2:40:25Joe Rogan?

  Yes.

• 2:40:26Speaker 01

  That's the, the winner.

• 2:40:27Joe Rogan?

  That's the key, that's the key.

• 2:40:28Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:40:29Joe Rogan?

  And it's just this fucking constant dance and then as soon as it's over, oh my god, I'm starting from scratch.

• 2:40:34Speaker 01

  Oh, that's where I'm at. I got the special out, I'm back to square one. I'm the worst comic in America right now.

• 2:40:39Joe Rogan?

  You gonna be at the club tonight?

• 2:40:40Speaker 01

  I'll be there.

• 2:40:41Joe Rogan?

  Joey's at the club tonight.

• 2:40:42Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 2:40:43Joe Rogan?

  Joey Diaz is headlining.

• 2:40:44Speaker 01

  I don't wanna follow him with my horse shit.

• 2:40:45Joe Rogan?

  No, he'll be headlining.

• 2:40:47Speaker 01

  Okay, great.

• 2:40:48Joe Rogan?

  No one has to follow him, he's a fucking animal.

• 2:40:50Speaker 01

  He is.

• 2:40:50Joe Rogan?

  He's on fire right now.

• 2:40:52Speaker 01

  Really?

• 2:40:52Joe Rogan?

  He's on fire. Yeah, because he's been doing these residencies. He's been doing casinos in Philadelphia. He's been doing shows all around New York and New Jersey. He's killing it right now.

• 2:41:03Speaker 01

  Oh, good.

• 2:41:03Joe Rogan?

  I'm still trying to get him to move out here. I'm trying.

• 2:41:06Speaker 01

  I can see that.

• 2:41:07Joe Rogan?

  I'm gonna have to get him a place. I think I might have to buy a place.

• 2:41:10Speaker 01

  A little warm out here, though. He's a sweaty Cuban.

• 2:41:12Joe Rogan?

  He'll deal with it. Cuba's hot, too.

• 2:41:14Speaker 01

  That's a good point. I mean, really, right now.

• 2:41:16Joe Rogan?

  He don't really complain about heat that much.

• 2:41:18Speaker 01

  Alright.

• 2:41:18Joe Rogan?

  Joey complains about assholes, pussies. These fucking mox, these white people. Joe Rogan, you're running these fucking white people too much.

• 2:41:26Speaker 01

  Yeah, well, New York's the weirdest, cuz you walk by a hobo jerking off and then I'll tell a zinger and be like, easy. Isn't that weird? I'm like, there's a dead guy on Third Street and you, in the subway you took here and then I tell a joke and be like, whoa, buddy.

• 2:41:40Joe Rogan?

  Well, it'll turn around. It just has to, like, culture goes in these big waves.

• 2:41:44Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:41:44Joe Rogan?

  It's like a seesaw. It goes up, it goes down, it goes back, it goes forth.

• 2:41:48Speaker 01

  It just feels like with, with young people, there's an HR vibe in the, in the, in the young world.

• 2:41:53Joe Rogan?

  Well, you think that's the world they have to live in every day at work.

• 2:41:55Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's a good point.

• 2:41:56Joe Rogan?

  They go from the university where they're taught that shit and then they go to a job where they're taught that shit and that shit can actually help them get ahead.

• 2:42:02Speaker 01

  Right.

• 2:42:03Joe Rogan?

  And if you enforce it, like, people are like, oh, they're scared, they'll help you, they'll move you ahead.

• 2:42:08Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:42:08Joe Rogan?

  You know, if you push these values and push these ideas, like, it'll... Help, and then there's people that their whole job is just enforcing that stuff.

• 2:42:16Speaker 01

  Yeah. And those people are fucked up.

• 2:42:18Joe Rogan?

  Those are scary people.

• 2:42:19Speaker 01

  HR people are the wackiest nuts on the planet.

• 2:42:21Joe Rogan?

  Oh, those are scary people, because those are the fucking, the hall pass monitors.

• 2:42:25Speaker 01

  Right, right, it's, it's kinda like, uh, Asian porn. You know, Asians are the most repressed people, and their porn is bananas, because they gotta get it out.

• 2:42:34Joe Rogan?

  You know what's nuts about some of their porn? They have to blur out the genitals.

• 2:42:37Speaker 01

  I know, silly.

• 2:42:39Joe Rogan?

  Help me out.

• 2:42:39Speaker 01

  What are we doing here?

• 2:42:40Joe Rogan?

  Help me out.

• 2:42:41Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's a tiny pixel.

• 2:42:42Joe Rogan?

  See her asshole where she's shitting in a guy's mouth. This is crazy.

• 2:42:48Speaker 01

  That's funny.

• 2:42:49Joe Rogan?

  This is legitimately crazy.

• 2:42:50Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, uh, you know, like, in the, in the 90s, you couldn't say fuck, but you could say the N-word. On TV.

• 2:42:57Joe Rogan?

  Interesting.

• 2:42:57Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:42:58Joe Rogan?

  Saturday Night Live.

• 2:42:59Speaker 01

  Exactly.

• 2:42:59Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:43:00Speaker 01

  You could say the N-word, so...

• 2:43:01Joe Rogan?

  That Chevy Chase, Richard Pryor thing?

• 2:43:02Speaker 01

  Yes, exactly, but you couldn't say fuck in a, in a...

• 2:43:05Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:43:06Speaker 01

  At all, so it's funny how we, we take certain, that's okay, but not that.

• 2:43:10Joe Rogan?

  I know, people are always looking to tell people what to do.

• 2:43:13Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:43:14Joe Rogan?

  That's really what it is.

• 2:43:15Speaker 01

  And that's not new.

• 2:43:16Joe Rogan?

  They're always looking to define people as being worse than them, like, that's a bad person.

• 2:43:20Speaker 01

  Right.

• 2:43:20Joe Rogan?

  I'm a good person.

• 2:43:21Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 2:43:21Joe Rogan?

  And they're always looking to tell people what to do.

• 2:43:23Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's as old as time, you know?

• 2:43:27Joe Rogan?

  Sure.

• 2:43:27Speaker 01

  These old, you know, but it just keeps shifting, like, in the 50s, you couldn't have a man and a woman in the same bed, but you could smoke in front of a baby. And now, you, you can have people fucking on TV, but smoking is like, uh, they have a disclaimer.

• 2:43:40Joe Rogan?

  There's always gonna be bitches in this world, ruin it for everybody. There's, uh, no matter what you do, there's always gonna be people that try to find a loophole, trying to find some fucking cheat code, sneak their way to the top, take Ozempic, do what they gotta do.

• 2:43:52Speaker 01

  I guess so, but we're all gonna die one day, folks, you might as well have a good time.

• 2:43:55Joe Rogan?

  You should be having a good time before you die. Don't, don't wait till you die and go, "I should've had more fun."

• 2:44:00Speaker 01

  Yeah, well, don't have too much fun, Burt Kreischer's, uh, he quit drinking.

• 2:44:05Joe Rogan?

  He had to.

• 2:44:06Speaker 01

  He got, uh, blood clots.

• 2:44:08Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:44:08Speaker 01

  And what...

• 2:44:09Joe Rogan?

  Probably from the vax. He took four of those fucking things.

• 2:44:12Speaker 01

  Really?

• 2:44:13Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he had to keep taking them because he was doing projects.

• 2:44:16Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:44:17Joe Rogan?

  They kept telling him he needs another booster in order to do this new thing.

• 2:44:20Speaker 01

  Well, what happened to his tour bus?

• 2:44:22Joe Rogan?

  What happened to his tour bus?

• 2:44:22Speaker 01

  Oh, JMo. His tour bus caught on fire.

• 2:44:26Joe Rogan?

  When did this happen?

• 2:44:28Speaker 01

  Three days ago.

• 2:44:29Joe Rogan?

  Oh.

• 2:44:30Speaker 03

  They got a flat tire and then randomly, like, I think they got another ride and like while they were getting the ride, it caught on fire.

• 2:44:36Joe Rogan?

  What happened?

• 2:44:37Speaker 01

  They could have been in there.

• 2:44:38Speaker 03

  I think he's, uh, he might be smartly saving it for a podcast or something.

• 2:44:42Speaker 01

  Oh, shit. Well, it's all over the news, too.

• 2:44:44Speaker 03

  They just showed the fire, but I don't think that they've said like caused it.

• 2:44:48Speaker 01

  He did a big Instagram Live about it. I didn't watch it, but, uh, yeah, that thing is torched. It's, it looks like Gaza footage.

• 2:44:54Joe Rogan?

  Burt's the type of guy who might light his tour bus on fire just for clicks.

• 2:44:56Speaker 01

  Look at that.

• 2:44:57Joe Rogan?

  Whoa. Comedian Burt crushes tour bus destroyed by fire in Minnesota. Yeah, the fucking Antifa got him.

• 2:45:04Speaker 01

  Yeah, Minnesota's cursed, man.

• 2:45:06Joe Rogan?

  Fire is on, no, yeah, Antifa. I'm calling it. I'm calling it. It's the anti-ice people. We're all safe, but my bus is gone. God works in mysterious ways. What? Oh, he lit it on fire. As soon as you say God works in mysterious ways.

• 2:45:19Speaker 01

  Look at that thing.

• 2:45:20Joe Rogan?

  That's nuts.

• 2:45:21Speaker 01

  Something can't stop the machine.

• 2:45:22Joe Rogan?

  Wow, that's crazy.

• 2:45:24Speaker 01

  Something's burning.

• 2:45:25Joe Rogan?

  That's gotta suck, cause that, that was a very expensive, expensive tour bus.

• 2:45:30Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:45:31Joe Rogan?

  He was always on that thing.

• 2:45:33Speaker 01

  Oh, my God. That is crazy.

• 2:45:35Joe Rogan?

  I have never had the desire to get a tour bus.

• 2:45:36Speaker 01

  I don't like it either. I'm, I'm open for Burt on the bus and it's fun, but I couldn't do that all day, every day.

• 2:45:42Joe Rogan?

  Well, I don't get hammered like he does. So it's like this idea of just touring around. But like my friends that are music, like Sturgill Simpson, he loves being on the bus.

• 2:45:49Speaker 01

  Yeah, some people love it.

• 2:45:50Joe Rogan?

  He said it's like, it's like a living room that you travel around in. They're all strumming along, singing songs, partying, laughing, watching movies.

• 2:45:57Speaker 01

  I guess that's nice. I'll give you a flight. I'll get there in 10 minutes.

• 2:46:00Joe Rogan?

  Exactly.

• 2:46:01Speaker 01

  You're traveling all night.

• 2:46:02Joe Rogan?

  I need to go to the gym. I need to eat steak in a nice restaurant. I, I don't like doing that.

• 2:46:08Speaker 01

  I'm with you and that bed is like a coffin. And you feel the bump of the road, you're like, oh, we could just turn off any minute and off the highway.

• 2:46:14Joe Rogan?

  You think about crashing.

• 2:46:16Speaker 01

  Exactly.

• 2:46:16Joe Rogan?

  What about that guy driving, falls asleep?

• 2:46:18Speaker 01

  Oh, and those aren't the most stand-up guys driving those, but they're like ex-cons and pedophiles and whatnot.

• 2:46:25Joe Rogan?

  It's weird. Also, I've never done those long tours like that. I don't like those.

• 2:46:29Speaker 01

  I don't either.

• 2:46:30Joe Rogan?

  I think they're bad for you.

• 2:46:31Speaker 01

  Well, also, we got kids, so I like to get in, get back. Get in, get back.

• 2:46:35Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I've always done that. I've always done like a week, except one time, I did the Maxim Comedy Tour with Charlie Murphy and John Heffron.

• 2:46:42Speaker 01

  Whoa.

• 2:46:42Joe Rogan?

  We did, uh, we did 22 dates in a month, and I hated it, because I'd be waking up and I'm like, where am I? I didn't know where I was.

• 2:46:50Speaker 01

  You're right.

• 2:46:51Joe Rogan?

  Because you're always on the road.

• 2:46:52Speaker 01

  22 dates is crazy.

• 2:46:53Joe Rogan?

  It was nuts.

• 2:46:54Speaker 01

  In a row. You don't even know what day it is.

• 2:46:56Joe Rogan?

  But by the end of that month, whoo, you're sharp.

• 2:47:00Speaker 01

  You're tight.

• 2:47:00Joe Rogan?

  Oh, you're sharp.

• 2:47:02Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:47:02Joe Rogan?

  You're just out there murdering. You're just like, your timing is on point. Everything is just rock solid.

• 2:47:08Speaker 01

  And in a weird group, Heffron, Murphy, and you?

• 2:47:10Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:47:11Speaker 01

  That's a lot of range.

• 2:47:12Joe Rogan?

  It was fun.

• 2:47:13Speaker 01

  Heffron's funny.

• 2:47:14Joe Rogan?

  He's fun. He's very funny.

• 2:47:16Speaker 01

  Clean, too, I think.

• 2:47:17Joe Rogan?

  Well, he mixes it up. He's not clean offstage. Offstage's hilarious. He's just hilarious, period. He's a really good joke writer, too. And this was like, he had come off of Last Comic Standing. He won that.

• 2:47:27Speaker 01

  Right.

• 2:47:27Joe Rogan?

  And then Charlie was the best.

• 2:47:29Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah?

• 2:47:30Joe Rogan?

  Charlie, she was such a-

• 2:47:31Speaker 01

  I never met him.

• 2:47:31Joe Rogan?

  Such a good dude.

• 2:47:33Speaker 01

  Really?

• 2:47:33Joe Rogan?

  Such a real man.

• 2:47:35Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:47:36Joe Rogan?

  A real, solid dude.

• 2:47:38Speaker 01

  Well, Eddie Murphy always talks about, he was kind of his protector. Like, if you talk shit about Eddie Murphy, he would just go beat you up.

• 2:47:42Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah. Well, Charlie was a legitimate martial artist.

• 2:47:45Speaker 01

  Oh, is that? I didn't know that.

• 2:47:46Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. He fought karate tournaments and shit, yeah. Yeah, we talked a lot about martial arts. He knew his shit, for sure.

• 2:47:53Speaker 01

  Oh, I didn't know that.

• 2:47:54Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:47:54Speaker 01

  I just thought he was a street guy.

• 2:47:55Joe Rogan?

  No, he knew how to fight. He was a dangerous guy, but just a nice guy, just a solid human being. I didn't even know he was sick, man. I had no idea until he was, until he died. And he kept it quiet, just like Norm did.

• 2:48:10Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:48:12Joe Rogan?

  No one knew. Norm was talking about moving to Austin.

• 2:48:15Speaker 01

  No way.

• 2:48:16Joe Rogan?

  Coming out here, yeah.

• 2:48:17Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 2:48:18Joe Rogan?

  And then just fucking died.

• 2:48:19Speaker 01

  That's so commendable in this like victim culture. He could have gotten so much, so many points off that. And he just rode it out.

• 2:48:25Joe Rogan?

  Apparently, he had been fighting cancer for a long time.

• 2:48:28Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:48:29Joe Rogan?

  And if you look at him, like when he got real puffy for a while.

• 2:48:31Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 2:48:32Joe Rogan?

  Probably what was going on.

• 2:48:34Speaker 01

  Ah.

• 2:48:34Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he was probably battling cancer.

• 2:48:37Speaker 01

  If you watch his old, I'm talking eighties clips, he's holding his stomach, like on Letterman, because he had stomach cancer.

• 2:48:43Joe Rogan?

  Whoa.

• 2:48:43Speaker 01

  And that's why he always touched his stomach, because he'd get hurt.

• 2:48:45Joe Rogan?

  He had it for that long?

• 2:48:46Speaker 01

  He had it, because he had it, and then he kind of beat it, and it came back.

• 2:48:51Joe Rogan?

  Oh, man.

• 2:48:53Speaker 01

  Crazy. He's a hero.

• 2:48:54Joe Rogan?

  Oh, man.

• 2:48:56Speaker 01

  Is there a funnier guy than Norm? I mean.

• 2:48:58Joe Rogan?

  One of the funniest guys of all time.

• 2:48:59Speaker 01

  Funny on a podcast, funny on standup, funny in movies.

• 2:49:02Joe Rogan?

  Funny talking to him in the hallway of the store.

• 2:49:04Speaker 01

  Yes, exactly.

• 2:49:04Joe Rogan?

  And just a great guy, man.

• 2:49:06Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:49:06Joe Rogan?

  A great guy. And, you know, and would go after people who are cunts online, too.

• 2:49:11Speaker 01

  Yeah, he did.

• 2:49:13Joe Rogan?

  Seth Simon guy, went after him.

• 2:49:14Speaker 01

  Oh, really?

• 2:49:15Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, one day, I'm gonna meet you in real life.

• 2:49:17Speaker 01

  Whoa, he wrote Shane a nice, Shane showed me the email after he got in trouble.

• 2:49:22Joe Rogan?

  A solid, he was a solid dude. He was a real solid, and fucking funny, man.

• 2:49:26Speaker 01

  So brilliant.

• 2:49:27Joe Rogan?

  So funny.

• 2:49:28Speaker 01

  Enlightened, and he was like a Dostoevsky reader, you know, and everybody thought he was this, you know, dumb guy.

• 2:49:33Joe Rogan?

  I sat next to him randomly on a flight, twice.

• 2:49:37Speaker 01

  Don't do the smoking story.

• 2:49:38Joe Rogan?

  I did already.

• 2:49:39Speaker 01

  All right, all right, we've all heard it too many times.

• 2:49:41Joe Rogan?

  Sorry, but just randomly sitting next to him on a flight, it was like, it was such a treat.

• 2:49:46Speaker 01

  That's a gift.

• 2:49:46Joe Rogan?

  To hang out with him for fucking hours on a plane, just laughing and talking.

• 2:49:50Speaker 01

  Ah, Joe.

• 2:49:51Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:49:52Speaker 01

  Joe over here.

• 2:49:53Joe Rogan?

  Solid dude. There's good people out there.

• 2:49:55Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:49:56Joe Rogan?

  They exist.

• 2:49:57Speaker 01

  Yeah, he was great.

• 2:49:59Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:49:59Speaker 01

  And he changed Weekend Update.

• 2:50:00Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:50:01Speaker 01

  I mean, the fact that he got fired for being funny, he told the truth. He told the truth about OJ killing his wife, and he got in trouble.

• 2:50:07Joe Rogan?

  Is that what happened?

• 2:50:08Speaker 01

  That's what it was.

• 2:50:09Joe Rogan?

  Fired from Weekend Update?

• 2:50:09Speaker 01

  Because Olmeyer was like the head of NBC, and he was friends with OJ.

• 2:50:14Joe Rogan?

  Oh.

• 2:50:14Speaker 01

  So he was like, stop shitting on OJ, he's a friend of mine. He's like, I can't, he's a murderer.

• 2:50:19Joe Rogan?

  That's crazy. He told him to stop shitting on OJ?

• 2:50:22Speaker 01

  And he kept doing it, and he got fired.

• 2:50:24Joe Rogan?

  Really?

• 2:50:24Speaker 01

  That's what it was.

• 2:50:26Joe Rogan?

  That's crazy. Let me hear what he said.

• 2:50:30Speaker 01

  Back it up.

• 2:50:33Speaker 04

  Now the fake news, well it is finally official.

• 2:50:39Speaker 03

  I'll be honest, we can't.

• 2:50:40Speaker 01

  Can't play it? Okay, okay. We'll get in trouble. Yeah, you can see it, it's amazing, he's got a whole compilation.

• 2:50:46Joe Rogan?

  Let's wrap this bitch up, bring it home.

• 2:50:47Speaker 01

  Alright.

• 2:50:48Joe Rogan?

  Mark Norman, you're the man. Appreciate you, brother.

• 2:50:50Speaker 01

  New special, check it out.

• 2:50:51Joe Rogan?

  New special, out on Netflix, I know it's hilarious, I watched you work out some of the material. It's called "None Too Pleased", it's available now. As of the time we're talking, it's number five, I'm sure it'll boost the fuck up after this.

• 2:51:03Speaker 01

  Hell yeah, kick it up a notch.

• 2:51:05Joe Rogan?

  And I'll see you tonight.

• 2:51:06Speaker 01

  Thank you, sir.

• 2:51:06Joe Rogan?

  Let's fucking go.

• 2:51:07Speaker 01

  Comedy.

• 2:51:09Joe Rogan?

  Bye, everybody.

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