Fight Companion - March 21, 2026

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• 2:44Speaker 01

  Yeah. Because I have to, I gotta post it.

• 2:53Speaker 01

  Did I, I, I... Are we live?

• 2:55Speaker 02

  It's confirming it's up.

• 2:58Speaker 01

  I don't see it yet in the feed. Where would I see it?

• 3:01Speaker 02

  Refresh.

• 3:03Speaker 01

  Alright, here we go. Nope.

• 3:10Speaker 02

  It's live.

• 3:12Speaker 01

  How come, where do I find it?

• 3:15Speaker 01

  We're live, allegedly, but I can't find out where it is on my YouTube app. So how do people find it if I can't?

• 3:24Speaker 02

  JoeRogan.com/live.

• 3:26Speaker 01

  What are we doing?

• 3:27Speaker 02

  JoeRogan, or youtube.com/jerogan/live.

• 3:31Speaker 01

  Oh, is that what it is? So it's a different channel?

• 3:34Speaker 02

  It's always been that.

• 3:36Speaker 01

  Oh, I always sent people to the powerful JRE channel.

• 3:39Speaker 02

  We have both, we have both.

• 3:40Speaker 01

  Oh, okay.

• 3:41Speaker 02

  Either one works.

• 3:42Speaker 01

  Okay. I just don't see it in, do you guys see it in your app? I take your, I trust you.

• 3:47Speaker 02

  It says we're live, we need to have a check.

• 3:49Speaker 01

  Okay, it's just not showing up in my app. I wanted to give people a link. Oh, there we go. Oh, I saw it for a second. Nope, that's Mark Norman.

• 3:59Speaker 01

  It says latest videos.

• 4:04Speaker 01

  Live, hold on, live?

• 4:06Speaker 02

  It's live, it's live somewhere.

• 4:09Speaker 01

  No, we're not live.

• 4:13Speaker 02

  Mary's alive.

• 4:16Speaker 01

  I clicked on live and it's not us.

• 4:18Speaker 02

  I know, um, I'll show you what I'm seeing.

• 4:22Speaker 01

  Can you send me a link?

• 4:25Speaker 02

  I'm trying to look, I'm just showing, I'm confused too now. One show early. I'm seeing...

• 4:30Speaker 01

  I think we're live, so, okay, don't say anything retarded.

• 4:33Speaker 02

  And, I believe, it says we're live.

• 4:38Speaker 01

  Do you see it on YouTube?

• 4:40Speaker 02

  Here's, this is just, on the back end, this is what I have, this is what it looks like. That says live, it says end stream.

• 4:45Speaker 01

  Oh, it's been live for two minutes. Okay, this is so stupid.

• 4:49Speaker 02

  So it's not, I don't know, I'm trying to figure it out now, hold on.

• 4:52Speaker 01

  Um...

• 4:52Speaker 02

  They changed this too, since we've lost on it.

• 4:54Speaker 01

  Well, the weird thing is, it's just not showing, it's like, how would anybody find it? Are we shadow banned? That's the, the grand conspiracy. Have we been shadow banned from our own channel?

• 5:08Speaker 02

  That says we're going.

• 5:09Speaker 01

  Alright, we're recording either way, right?

• 5:11Speaker 02

  Yes, we are, I'm there, I am recording as a backup.

• 5:14Speaker 01

  Let's figure it out, and, uh, text me a link when it's up. We'll do it live, fuck it, we'll fucking do it live, fuck it! Joey Diaz, what are you doing over there? What's going on?

• 5:28Speaker 01

  Boys, fuck it, beautiful, let's go. What's up, boys? We don't have to go to England. Uh, this is a good fight, though, Yves Loew, and, um, I feel like Lerone Murphy's the one guy that got completely left out of that conversation. It didn't make any sense to me. Which conversation? The conversation, like, who fights next for the title? Like, he was, like, Alexander Volkanovski talked about him, he said, "I'll probably see you next." He wanted him? He wanted him. And he starched Aaron Pico with like a crazy spinning back elbow? Dude, so good, undefeated. And he was just like, nah, Diego Lopez.

• 6:00Speaker 02

  We're good now, it just was unlisted, now it's like, it wasn't public for some reason.

• 6:03Speaker 01

  Oh, how dare they? Um, is that us, our fault?

• 6:07Speaker 02

  I'm not...

• 6:07Speaker 01

  Okay, I don't see it.

• 6:13Speaker 03

  Oh, there it is. Okay, it popped up. Alright, let me share this. You guys talk for a second.

• 6:19Speaker 04

  So what's up with the White House card?

• 6:22Speaker 05

  The White House card, I've, I've been pretty, I've been going pretty hard in the paint on it. And here's the thing. It's a great card. That's, that's where people get it twisted. It's a great fu- it's an amazing card. It's not the best card that we've ever seen. And we were told it was supposed to be the best. That's my issue.

• 6:39Speaker 01

  That's a Trump thing. We're gonna have the best fights, nine world titles.

• 6:43Speaker 05

  Nine times!

• 6:44Speaker 01

  He can't help himself. He can't help himself.

• 6:46Speaker 05

  It was Trump and Dana, but Dana said that too. He went on Pat McAfee's show and was like, "This is gonna blow the sphere out of the water. It's gonna be the best card you've ever seen." It's like,

• 6:55Speaker 04

  Yeah, well, so, so who's in it? Who's in it?

• 6:57Speaker 03

  Well, there's Cyril Gahn versus Alex Pereira.

• 7:01Speaker 05

  That's your, that's your co-main event?

• 7:02Speaker 03

  Interim heavyweight title.

• 7:03Speaker 04

  That's not a rematch, is it?

• 7:04Speaker 05

  No.

• 7:05Speaker 01

  No.

• 7:05Speaker 03

  First time in a heavy- it's a great fight. First time in a heavy- for Pereira.

• 7:09Speaker 05

  It's a great ca- that's the thing. It's a great card. The issue is, is like, say before we went live, I got on here, Joe, it'd be like Joe getting on, like, "This is gonna be the greatest fucking show I've ever done." And then people tune in like, "It was good." But he told us it was gonna be the best.

• 7:25Speaker 04

  And they're gonna have it outside, or are they gonna have like a, like a, build a tent?

• 7:29Speaker 03

  That's a really good question.

• 7:30Speaker 04

  They need to make a tent.

• 7:31Speaker 03

  It's outside.

• 7:32Speaker 05

  It's outside.

• 7:32Speaker 03

  It's a joint. They're building it right now as we speak.

• 7:34Speaker 04

  Oh, they are?

• 7:35Speaker 05

  But they're supposed to warm up in the Oval Office.

• 7:37Speaker 03

  I'm, I'm not sure.

• 7:38Speaker 05

  Cause it could rain.

• 7:39Speaker 01

  They're supposed to warm up in the Oval Office?

• 7:41Speaker 05

  That, that, like mats?

• 7:42Speaker 01

  That's what I was, that's what I was, that's what I was told. Who told you this?

• 7:46Speaker 05

  Dana?

• 7:50Speaker 01

  Imagine they clear the furniture out there, put mats down, and guys are kicking pads.

• 7:54Speaker 05

  Bro, Bill Clinton got his dick sucked in there. That'd be sick, bro. Yeah, yeah.

• 7:59Speaker 03

  And now you're gonna be stretching and hitting pads in the little whiskey room.

• 8:02Speaker 05

  Yeah, probably.

• 8:03Speaker 03

  Here's the problem with that card, guys. This is the only problem with that card.

• 8:06Speaker 01

  There's no problem.

• 8:07Speaker 05

  Who else is on?

• 8:08Speaker 03

  I wanted to see, everybody was waiting for Alex Pereira against John Joe.

• 8:13Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 8:13Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 8:13Speaker 03

  Okay, and that's a disappointment, to me.

• 8:16Speaker 05

  That's it.

• 8:16Speaker 03

  The card is fucking fantastic. Listen, that poor bastard, he's gonna wait forever for Conor McGregor. What's that?

• 8:22Speaker 05

  Michael Chandler?

• 8:24Speaker 03

  He's gonna die, come back.

• 8:26Speaker 04

  You know that's

• 8:27Speaker 01

  No, they're gonna meet each other in the parking lot of a fucking Waffle House one day.

• 8:30Speaker 04

  Chandler, but let it go.

• 8:31Speaker 05

  They said Chandler, we can't do Conor, we can do Hoofy for you. It's a horrible matchup for him.

• 8:36Speaker 01

  Well, he thinks that because, I think, if I had to guess, he, he thinks that because Benoit Saint-Denis broke him with grappling, that he's gonna be able to get a hold of him and do the same kinda thing.

• 8:46Speaker 05

  Fair? Fair?

• 8:48Speaker 01

  Benoit Saint-Denis is very big.

• 8:50Speaker 04

  Now, why wasn't, uh, John Jones, uh, how come he didn't?

• 8:54Speaker 05

  They couldn't come to agreement.

• 8:55Speaker 01

  Yeah, man, it was a money thing, John was saying. John was saying they wouldn't budge over fifteen. Uh, that's what John said recently on Twitter, I believe.

• 9:02Speaker 05

  But, but fifteen mil, like, my thing is, is

• 9:06Speaker 04

  That's a lot of millions.

• 9:07Speaker 05

  UFC hasn't been closing like the big fights, but John has to take some accountability. Like, they offered him thirty mil against Aspinall. He never let, made it happen. So UFC's like, okay dude, and then fifteen for the White House card? And you're saying this is the number one fight you want, you wanna do? Fifteen mil, bud? Like, UFC can, could they pay more properly, but fifteen mil?

• 9:27Speaker 01

  Right, but I'm, I think in his mind, this is for an interim title, right? Would it be?

• 9:32Speaker 05

  It'd be for interim, cause Aspinall's still the champ.

• 9:35Speaker 01

  Just like this one's for an interim title. And, you know, if he was gonna get thirty to fight Aspinall, half of that is kinda crazy. He's the greatest of all time, and he's gonna make the White House card. If he makes the White House card, be like, oh shit, John Jones is back. Like, the whole card completely changes.

• 9:51Speaker 04

  And there's no complaints. Is it too late, or can they add him?

• 9:53Speaker 05

  Is it too late?

• 9:54Speaker 01

  I don't know. He, he said he's ready to go. He said, he tweeted he's ready to go, I think, today or yesterday.

• 9:59Speaker 04

  So if they added him, who, who's left to fight? What would be the best fight, if they had him? Aspinall?

• 10:04Speaker 05

  No, Aspinall's still doing it.

• 10:05Speaker 01

  Aspinall had serious eye surgery, two of them, two serious eye surgeries.

• 10:09Speaker 05

  He, he won't make White House. What they would probably do if John eventually was like, alright, I'm down to whatever the agreement for the money, he'd fight the winner of Cyril and Poton la- later this year.

• 10:19Speaker 01

  That's if Aspinall needs more time off.

• 10:22Speaker 05

  Correct, and if not, I'm gonna go straight to Aspinall.

• 10:24Speaker 01

  Get right into the winner.

• 10:26Speaker 05

  Or John goes, fuck it, I'm not messing with the UFC at all, and I'm gonna fight on these Netflix cards and make all the money.

• 10:33Speaker 01

  Yeah, but he can't do that. He has a contract. I don't know how many fights he has left. Does he have a contract?

• 10:37Speaker 05

  He has a contract, and I'm pretty sure he signed for a hot second.

• 10:41Speaker 01

  Hmm, so Pereira just signed a new eight-fight deal.

• 10:46Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 10:48Speaker 01

  Netflix is coming with that long cash.

• 10:51Speaker 05

  Yeah, and UFC is like, here's, uh, basically sign the rest of your life over.

• 10:55Speaker 01

  What did you hear? They, they offered Diaz?

• 10:58Speaker 05

  The UFC?

• 10:58Speaker 01

  No.

• 10:59Speaker 05

  Oh, Netflix? I heard 10 mil.

• 11:02Speaker 01

  Heard it was more.

• 11:05Speaker 05

  You, I mean, you probably know.

• 11:06Speaker 01

  That's wild. That's a lot of money.

• 11:08Speaker 05

  They're paying boys real money.

• 11:10Speaker 01

  But I tell you what, I think he could have made that same money versus Connor. If someone could just drag Connor to an Iba game center again, clean that boy up.

• 11:19Speaker 05

  Connor's down. Connor's fighting the International Fight Weekly, supposedly.

• 11:22Speaker 01

  I hope that's true. Um, but if, if Nate gets through this fight and they set that fight up, it's that or Chandler. The problem is Chandler's gonna fight Hoofy. And there's no chance you're coming out of that with any understanding of physical reality.

• 11:38Speaker 05

  Tough.

• 11:39Speaker 01

  That guy starts putting it on you, hey, we're live? No. No?

• 11:42Speaker 05

  You know what I would do?

• 11:43Speaker 01

  That guy's a fucking wicked striker, man. Oh, Hoofy's scary.

• 11:47Speaker 05

  No, they, they did Chandler super dirty.

• 11:49Speaker 01

  But, you know, he's a fucking legit wrestler, man, you know? He's a legit wrestler. If he just decides to like only do that, you wonder like how much Hoofy can keep him off him.

• 11:59Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 11:59Speaker 01

  But he never fights like that.

• 12:00Speaker 05

  Never.

• 12:01Speaker 01

  Fights like a fucking wild dog.

• 12:03Speaker 05

  That's why we love him. It's just fucked up. He sat out for how long?

• 12:06Speaker 01

  I know. He should have never done that. If I was in his ear, I would have said, not a fucking chance, son.

• 12:11Speaker 05

  Not a chance.

• 12:11Speaker 01

  Not a chance. Take fights, keep moving. How, how dare you?

• 12:14Speaker 05

  But at least they put Chandler on that card. Imagine being Koby Compton, who's been just, just risen. Donald Trump in the White House and he gets, he sees the White House cards announced. He's like, bro, oh, this is me all day. UFC said, but it's not.

• 12:29Speaker 01

  Bo Nickle say that he wanted that fight and that Koby did not want that fight?

• 12:33Speaker 05

  Yeah, but.

• 12:34Speaker 01

  Did they offer him that at the White House?

• 12:36Speaker 05

  I don't know. Supposedly, that's what Bo said, like, Koby can sign the contract. Bro, it's a terrible matchup for Koby at 185?

• 12:44Speaker 01

  Right.

• 12:44Speaker 05

  So, all right, I want to be on the White House, but I have to fight fucking Bo Nickle?

• 12:47Speaker 01

  Right.

• 12:48Speaker 05

  Who, my thing's wrestling. That motherfucker's the wrestler.

• 12:51Speaker 01

  Right.

• 12:51Speaker 05

  What the fuck we gonna do?

• 12:52Speaker 01

  Right.

• 12:52Speaker 05

  So you can see why he was like, no.

• 12:53Speaker 01

  His striking has come up, like especially after that loss to Reiner De Ritter. Like in that last fight, man, his striking looks so much better.

• 13:02Speaker 05

  Nobody frustrates him more than Bo Nickle. He's my, one of my top three favorite fighters. I think.

• 13:06Speaker 01

  He's learning on the job.

• 13:08Speaker 05

  It, and UFC's a horrible place to learn.

• 13:11Speaker 01

  Viera is a bad motherfucker and he head kicked that guy into the shadow realm. That guy's a winner and winners like that, they figure out a way to get better.

• 13:20Speaker 05

  Agree.

• 13:21Speaker 01

  Quick.

• 13:21Speaker 05

  Agree. I just, I would see you take like the Khabib approach where it's like, my wrestling's the best in the world. I'm gonna break motherfuckers. I don't wanna see him figure out his striking for fucking fifteen minutes.

• 13:34Speaker 01

  Fight already started?

• 13:35Speaker 02

  Just started.

• 13:36Speaker 01

  And we're watching on an iPad?

• 13:37Speaker 02

  Dude, I don't, I'm trying.

• 13:39Speaker 05

  Hell yeah.

• 13:40Speaker 02

  It was not working here for five minutes.

• 13:42Speaker 01

  Why don't we run out and grab one of the other, um, Apple TVs that we know works? So go out and grab the one that's.

• 13:50Speaker 02

  This one is working though.

• 13:51Speaker 01

  But it's not working on this TV. Clearly something's wrong. And if we do it the other way, if you go out and get the one that's in the hallway, my phone is linked up to that one. Go out and get the one that's, uh, by the pool table. And, um, my phone links up to that one and we just stream it. Allegedly.

• 14:08Speaker 05

  That screen's so tiny, it looks like Sugar Sean.

• 14:11Speaker 01

  He gets so, he gets so anxious.

• 14:13Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 14:14Speaker 01

  Err.

• 14:14Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 14:15Speaker 01

  When it's not happening.

• 14:16Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 14:16Speaker 01

  I can't see who these guys are.

• 14:18Speaker 05

  That might as well be Sugar Sean versus fucking Jon Jones. It's so far away.

• 14:21Speaker 01

  Um, we will fill you in ladies and gentlemen when we know what's going on. But as of right now.

• 14:26Speaker 05

  Do you know the actual fighters?

• 14:28Speaker 01

  Uh, well, when Jamie comes back, put it up there.

• 14:31Speaker 05

  Sugar's on the White House card.

• 14:32Speaker 01

  That's another fight. It's like Corey Sanhagen was the fight. That was the fight that I'm most interested in. Sugar Sean and Corey Sanhagen's a wild fight.

• 14:41Speaker 05

  Why, Joe, why do you think they didn't do the matchups that obviously were hard cores and the, the majority of the fanbase? Like, we all wanted these fights. I wonder why? There has to be a reason. Why they're like, no, we're gonna go a different route.

• 14:53Speaker 01

  Who knows? There's guys get injured, there's negotiations.

• 14:58Speaker 05

  Negotiation probably, right? Like budget? Cause also the White House is the most expensive card.

• 15:02Speaker 01

  So they're like.

• 15:03Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 15:03Speaker 01

  More than the sphere?

• 15:04Speaker 05

  Oh yeah. Oh yeah.

• 15:05Speaker 01

  Oh, because they have to build a thing?

• 15:07Speaker 05

  Yeah, build a thing, the security.

• 15:09Speaker 01

  Oh criminy.

• 15:10Speaker 05

  So it's like, it's the most expensive card. So I'm sure the, the salary for the fighters that pay, they, it probably has to be limited.

• 15:16Speaker 01

  Um, allegedly. Yes. So this is, uh, pool room. There we go.

• 15:26Speaker 05

  That's gonna be a tough ticket to get.

• 15:28Speaker 01

  Hold on a second. What, the White House?

• 15:30Speaker 05

  Yeah. What's the capacity gonna be? Three thousand. That's not bad.

• 15:34Speaker 01

  Jamie, which one?

• 15:34Speaker 05

  Three thousand of the oligarchs. You know, it's like three thousand. Like, that's why, that's why I love Strickland. He's like, I ain't fighting for those rich fucking oligarchs. I ain't doing that.

• 15:43Speaker 01

  Okay, here it is. Hold on. Here, we got it. We got it. We got it.

• 15:46Speaker 05

  It's gonna be a weird vibe. You know?

• 15:51Speaker 05

  It's gonna feel like fucking that movie Django with Leonardo DiCaprio.

• 15:54Speaker 01

  What is?

• 15:55Speaker 05

  The White House card.

• 15:56Speaker 01

  It's gonna be weird.

• 15:57Speaker 05

  It's gonna be super weird.

• 15:59Speaker 01

  What the hell is going on?

• 16:02Speaker 03

  You know, those fights when you go to them are about excitement.

• 16:05Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 16:05Speaker 03

  When you go to a UFC fight and you walk into the building, the music, the visuals, the shit, your heart starts pumping.

• 16:12Speaker 05

  The energy from the people.

• 16:13Speaker 03

  If you put a whoop on and go to a fucking UFC fight, come out of there, you're like, I love it. Three. What'd I do? I didn't even work out.

• 16:17Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 16:18Speaker 03

  It's like doing stand-up.

• 16:19Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 16:20Speaker 03

  Getting off there. So, that's what I love about the UFC. When I'm sitting there and I'm looking up and all that shit and you're like, this is better than anything.

• 16:27Speaker 05

  Yeah, there's nothing like it.

• 16:28Speaker 03

  There's no ba- I love basketball games. NFL's too crazy, but the Jets and the Giants, there's no reason for that.

• 16:34Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 16:35Speaker 03

  Hang out with autism.

• 16:38Speaker 03

  When you're fucking, you haven't won a championship since nineteen sixty-nine, you keep showing up.

• 16:42Speaker 05

  You're something up.

• 16:45Speaker 03

  Jet, you know, it's fucking.

• 16:47Speaker 05

  The Jets got Gino, uh...

• 16:48Speaker 03

  Yeah, but that, you know.

• 16:50Speaker 05

  They got him back. They got him back. They got him back.

• 16:53Speaker 03

  The Jets had Aaron Rodgers. He got hurt. He goes to Pittsburgh. He gets to the playoffs. The Jets had Donaldson from...

• 17:00Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 17:00Speaker 03

  Seattle.

• 17:01Speaker 05

  He just won Super Bowl.

• 17:02Speaker 03

  He went to Minnesota. He was like Joe Montana.

• 17:05Speaker 05

  All of it, yeah. And they let him go. They let him go. Fucked up.

• 17:09Speaker 03

  So, it's kinda weird that the Jets, it's like when the Mets got Willie Mays. He already hit eight hundred home runs.

• 17:15Speaker 05

  Yeah, it's over. It's over.

• 17:17Speaker 03

  Why is he here? You know, he's a legend and stuff.

• 17:20Speaker 05

  What, Jamie?

• 17:22Speaker 04

  I'm a Browns guy, but I'm rooting for the Jets just because they have the worst luck, you know? Just like the Browns, we have the worst luck. I was gonna say, you guys have the worst luck too. Yeah, that's why I like them, because they're like the Browns. Yeah. We've been through like forty-five quarterbacks in the last twenty-five years. Just can't get one. Can't find one. Just can't find one. Shouldor Sanders not the answer? I hope he's the answer. I hope he is. You look good. You know, he had a shitty offensive line when they put him in the last like, uh, seven games. And he did, he made a lot of mistakes, but he also put the fucking ball up without fear. He can seize talent, for sure. Oh, yeah, yeah. I think, you know, this year, they rebuilt the line, they're probably gonna draft a tackle,

• 18:05Speaker 04

  and, uh, and, uh, probably the first pick will be a wide receiver, Carnell Pate. Yeah. Mackay Lemon. I'd rather have Mackay Lemon, but, um, everyone's saying Carnell Pate. And plus, he's from Ohio State, so. Yeah, it fits. We need an offensive tackle and a fucking wide receiver. Our defense is fucking solid. Yeah, stack. Yeah, defense is solid. Miles Garrett. Yeah. I watch, dude, football podcasts on the offseason every day. I always forget how big of a football fan you are. Giant, giant, dog. I like football more than UFC, dude. How dare you? I do. I love it.

• 18:36Speaker 03

  See, it's funny, because I've been to football games and they're great for the first ten minutes.

• 18:42Speaker 04

  Football?

• 18:42Speaker 03

  And I love football.

• 18:43Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 18:44Speaker 03

  The ten minutes of a game are great. And then you're like, it's like, why I like going to Dodgers with Eddie. We have an understanding. We're getting out of here in the sixth inning.

• 18:51Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 18:53Speaker 03

  They say hello.

• 18:54Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 18:55Speaker 03

  It's about your liberty. You get up on everybody. We leave at seven.

• 18:57Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 18:58Speaker 03

  I went to Yankee Stadium. It was the worst, guys.

• 19:01Speaker 04

  Why?

• 19:03Speaker 03

  There were people puking in front of me. There was a lady over here that had a foot that was red. Diabetes, and she had a tattoo on her.

• 19:13Speaker 03

  And she's eating sweets and fuck.

• 19:15Speaker 04

  Eating sweets, not giving a fuck.

• 19:18Speaker 03

  I'm like, what the fuck is this? I don't drive off, because that's a three-hour drive.

• 19:22Speaker 02

  Alright, boys, we're up.

• 19:23Speaker 03

  Here we go.

• 19:24Speaker 02

  Jeez, that was a lot.

• 19:26Speaker 04

  Okay, figured it out, though. Technology.

• 19:28Speaker 02

  It's currently just started where this fight started. They are further ahead.

• 19:31Speaker 04

  Oh, no. How do we get to live? I'll figure it out. I'll figure it out.

• 19:35Speaker 02

  They're still in the first round.

• 19:36Speaker 04

  Yeah, but we can't do that.

• 19:37Speaker 03

  But that's what the difference is. I think that taking the UFC out of like... It's a different place.

• 19:44Speaker 04

  It's gonna be a different vibe for sure.

• 19:45Speaker 03

  But I tell you what.

• 19:46Speaker 04

  Like the apex.

• 19:47Speaker 03

  The apex.

• 19:47Speaker 04

  The apex is lit, yeah.

• 19:49Speaker 03

  And the apex is pretty cool.

• 19:50Speaker 04

  It sucks for the fighters though.

• 19:51Speaker 03

  Yeah, there's no.

• 19:53Speaker 04

  Sucks for the fighters. There's no energy.

• 19:55Speaker 03

  You ever go out in front of like a. Alright, now we're live. Let's do an industry showcase. Those people don't laugh.

• 20:00Speaker 04

  No.

• 20:01Speaker 03

  Are we? So these are the same kind of people that are going, ain't nobody gonna take that shirt off and drink a beer.

• 20:06Speaker 04

  No, and say rip his head off and shit, you know? No one's throwing their tits. No, there's not gonna be any of that.

• 20:11Speaker 03

  You know, Steve the cigar's not gonna walk in and we're gonna go, yo, who shot Bobby Lupo?

• 20:15Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, no, there's none of that.

• 20:17Speaker 03

  So they gotta pull him out of there.

• 20:18Speaker 04

  They probably don't even know what the fuck they're watching. I, I, there's probably a hundred people that are actually UFC fans and the rest, you know?

• 20:24Speaker 03

  But then the other side of that, it's like Cho said, I'm sitting there watching a fight and all of a sudden I get hit with an Iranian missile.

• 20:31Speaker 03

  You're having a great time. You're having a great time, you got the maracas out, you're gonna hang out with Melania and all of a sudden, boom, there you are, you're done. You're on the whole, the whole leadership's fucked. For some reason Bruce Buffer lives. He lives like him in the suit. That's it, everybody else is gone.

• 20:54Speaker 03

  So that's the other thing, I don't know if I wanna even be in that area.

• 20:56Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah.

• 20:57Speaker 03

  I think I'm going to Hong Kong now.

• 20:58Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah. It's so crazy about the, the Iran situation. It's like you hear, one side of the story is, uh, we fucked their military up and they can't do shit. They're, they're decimated. And then the other side is like, no, they're not. They're fucking the shit out of Tel Aviv, they're bombing the shit out of Tel Aviv, they're fucking us up, we're losing. But Trump, Trump just came out and said, he's like, it's almost over.

• 21:22Speaker 03

  Whatever they wanna tell you.

• 21:23Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's like, yeah, what's going on?

• 21:25Speaker 03

  It's like they'll show you Austin Airport, people crawling, they're all lying.

• 21:30Speaker 04

  TSA, yeah.

• 21:31Speaker 03

  Then you fly in and you're like.

• 21:32Speaker 04

  There's no wait, yeah, I agree.

• 21:34Speaker 03

  CNN is calling scaring poor white people. Yeah. That's all CNN is. Yeah, yeah. And you put CNN at three in the morning, I'm not talking about nothing positive. It's gentlemen arguing about politics at three in the morning. Yeah. So you wake up, those fucking people, cause now, everybody considers like, well, he's an Islam radicalist, or whatever the fuck they call it. You know, like, you could get radical, how many, listen, we have a lot of crazy people that radicalize, but I got friends I went to grammar school with. And these motherfuckers get up at eight and start pounding Democrats on Facebook. There's no real, look at these fucking morons. It's taking the fucking morning, guy. Yeah. Take the morning, you're already fucking Democrats. You give them a breather. Take a wo- Take a morning off, how are you gonna, how is your day gonna be better?

• 22:16Speaker 03

  So, Americans are getting radicalized the same way with CNN, the other thing, we got constant. But we're not, but we're not blowing people up. No, but I told you a thousand fucking times-

• 22:26Speaker 01

  But we celebrate when people get shot.

• 22:28Speaker 03

  Yeah, we love all this shit.

• 22:29Speaker 01

  Like, when, before, right, but humans do. Imagine, imagine a world where a guy who never hurt anybody gets shot in the neck on TV in front of everybody and people are cheering, and people are posting about it. That don't make, that makes zero sense.

• 22:42Speaker 03

  That makes zero sense.

• 22:42Speaker 01

  It's never, never happened before.

• 22:44Speaker 03

  No.

• 22:44Speaker 01

  Cause, you're right, Joey, people have been radicalized.

• 22:46Speaker 03

  Radicalized, yeah.

• 22:47Speaker 01

  And also radicalized to have no empathy because social media doesn't, you don't have to have it.

• 22:52Speaker 04

  What, what side do you think is true? Trump decimated everybody, like he's saying, we just, we destroyed them, they don't have shit. But then there's other people saying, that's bullshit. Iran's bombing the shit out of Tel Aviv and they won't let you videotape it. They're taking, if you videotape the destruction in Tel Aviv, you'll get arrested, like, what?

• 23:09Speaker 01

  I'm sure there's some truth to that.

• 23:10Speaker 04

  There's like two-

• 23:11Speaker 01

  I'm sure there's some truth to that, but they, they've blown the shit out of a lot of sites. And the amount of missiles has radically reduced, radically reduced. So, the indication by, even Al Jazeera, Al Jazeera said a thing that the strategy is working for Trump. The problem is, they have that Strait of Hormuz, it's all closed down. I mean, if they go to war, like a physical hot war in the Strait of Hormuz with fucking rockets and-

• 23:34Speaker 04

  You think we'll go with the boots on the ground? You think that's gonna happen?

• 23:38Speaker 03

  That's what they're saying.

• 23:39Speaker 04

  Dude, nobody's gonna be in favor for that.

• 23:41Speaker 01

  I don't know if that's necessary. It, it seems like they keep kill, especially the Israelis are so good at finding those guys and killing them. Everybody that gets into power gets killed. That you can only, thank you, Jamie, you can only sustain that for so long.

• 23:53Speaker 04

  But is that, but is that even real? Is that even real?

• 23:56Speaker 01

  Like, we're nice- Whiskey to Eddie Bravo.

• 23:58Speaker 04

  You know.

• 23:59Speaker 05

  Good day.

• 23:59Speaker 04

  You know what I'm talking about?

• 24:00Speaker 05

  Al Jazeera.

• 24:00Speaker 01

  What's that Eddie?

• 24:01Speaker 04

  It's like the reports that you hear like, how do you even know any of it's real?

• 24:06Speaker 02

  Oh, you don't know.

• 24:06Speaker 01

  You don't know, not today.

• 24:07Speaker 04

  They killed his son, they didn't kill his son.

• 24:10Speaker 01

  Well, how about the AI videos of Benjamin Netanyahu? And people are saying, he's dead, he's dead. And everyone's saying, no, no, no, he's alive.

• 24:17Speaker 05

  Those AI videos are so fucking good though.

• 24:19Speaker 01

  They're not that good. They look like a beauty filter. It doesn't look like a real person.

• 24:23Speaker 04

  And it's like the coffee's not spilling.

• 24:24Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 24:24Speaker 04

  And then when he puts his hand in the pocket, when they show that, the pocket puts, it goes over the hand.

• 24:29Speaker 05

  So does that mean he's dead?

• 24:30Speaker 04

  It's weird.

• 24:30Speaker 01

  No, it doesn't mean that.

• 24:31Speaker 04

  Maybe they're, he's alive, but they're just fucking with people.

• 24:33Speaker 01

  They could be, they, they're, they play like long game.

• 24:37Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 24:37Speaker 01

  Israel does.

• 24:38Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 24:38Speaker 01

  They could be fucking with people just so that people think he's dead.

• 24:41Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 24:41Speaker 01

  That could be a strategy.

• 24:43Speaker 05

  Cause wasn't the beeper thing like a fucking five year project?

• 24:46Speaker 04

  Crazy project.

• 24:47Speaker 01

  Amazing.

• 24:48Speaker 05

  Great.

• 24:49Speaker 01

  Amazing. If I was Israeli, I'd be like, yo, don't wear this shit.

• 24:53Speaker 05

  We convinced him to get beepers.

• 24:55Speaker 01

  Li- listen, there's a bu- a bunch of things are true at the same time. The Iranian regime is horrible.

• 25:00Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 25:00Speaker 01

  They just executed that wrestler.

• 25:02Speaker 05

  I know.

• 25:02Speaker 01

  A really elite, high level teenage wrestler that said he was at a protest. Most people are saying, at least some people are saying that he wasn't at a protest. What is this, Jamie?

• 25:11Speaker 02

  The golden beeper gift that Netanyahu gave to Trump.

• 25:13Speaker 01

  That's hilarious.

• 25:15Speaker 05

  Jesus.

• 25:15Speaker 01

  He gave him a beeper. That's pretty gangster.

• 25:19Speaker 01

  That's right up there with the auto pin picture replacing Biden's picture.

• 25:22Speaker 05

  That's wild.

• 25:23Speaker 01

  That's pretty crazy.

• 25:24Speaker 05

  That's crazy.

• 25:25Speaker 04

  Do you think, do you think Iran has the capability to, uh, level, uh, Israel?

• 25:31Speaker 01

  There's a new, uh, there's, there's a new, uh, understanding of their cap- capabilities. Wish I could talk better because, um, they thought they could only go 2,000 kilometers with their rockets. But they just fired rockets that are capable of going 4,000 kilometers.

• 25:47Speaker 05

  Which means?

• 25:48Speaker 01

  Which they can reach Israel. It's a lot of difference. They could reach Europe. So that changed everybody's perception of all this shit because they're blowing up all these oil hubs. They're blowing up all these infrastructures. They're blowing up all these different things in Qatar and United Arab Emirates and Saudi Arabia. They're blowing things up anywhere they think Americans are. So any American assets in these places, but.

• 26:06Speaker 04

  Did they hit Dubai too?

• 26:08Speaker 01

  I think they did, yeah.

• 26:09Speaker 04

  So what's gonna, that's crazy.

• 26:11Speaker 03

  To make it back, bring it back to the fucking Dubai.

• 26:12Speaker 04

  UFC does a lot of fights in the Middle East there.

• 26:15Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 26:15Speaker 04

  So probably some rescheduling, I would assume.

• 26:18Speaker 01

  Well, yeah, perhaps unless this could all be resolved.

• 26:21Speaker 04

  It's crazy dude, if they're bombing Dubai, that's insane. I was just there like six months ago.

• 26:26Speaker 01

  They bombed a bunch of different countries, quite a few different countries. So it's like, it's not cut and dry, like, I'm the last person that thinks we should go to war. But that regime, that regime is spooky.

• 26:40Speaker 04

  Is it possible that like the bombing that they're, that they're, um, uh, putting on Iran, like someone else bombed them? And they're saying it's Iran? Is that possible? Like a false flag?

• 26:51Speaker 01

  I don't know. I think they can pretty much determine where all the rockets come from, which is how they blame that one rocket on America that landed on that school.

• 26:58Speaker 04

  Yeah, I was watching Ian Carroll, like a two hour podcast where he broke it down and he's showing all this, this, uh, uh, satellite footage of, um, uh, bases that were blown up. Like they'll show like a picture of it, like a satellite image, and then the next one, there's a black dot, you know, it's like, it's blown up. But even that, like, that could be AI too, like, like.

• 27:21Speaker 01

  Could be, you don't know. It's like, there's definitely a bunch of AI stuff out there and this is one of the things that we knew about this, uh, this new world that we're living in is you're gonna see news that's not news. You're gonna see fake shit. And, you know, Israelis are pretty slick. I think that the, the idea of using fake footage to pretend that Netanyahu was dead. Like use, use fake, that's not past what they would think of.

• 27:44Speaker 04

  No.

• 27:45Speaker 01

  That's a clever move. And if they had to use like fake video of things getting blown up, like, how do you know? Who fucking knows anymore? Who knows what's real and what's not?

• 27:55Speaker 04

  Hey Eddie, how?

• 27:56Speaker 01

  How do we know here in Texas?

• 27:58Speaker 04

  We don't fucking know.

• 27:58Speaker 01

  We don't fucking know.

• 27:59Speaker 04

  Who's gonna certify?

• 28:02Speaker 01

  Is this a good thing?

• 28:03Speaker 04

  Always. What's the good thing? Always.

• 28:05Speaker 03

  In three weeks, we're going to Cuba. The mothership's opening up. That's all I know. You know what I'm saying? That's all I'm thinking about. Blow up everybody. In three weeks, we're headed to Cuba. We're gonna open up the mothership next to Starbucks.

• 28:21Speaker 01

  Get some real cigars, dog.

• 28:23Speaker 03

  Oh, nah, those cigars taste like ass now. That communist dirt.

• 28:26Speaker 01

  How dare you.

• 28:27Speaker 03

  The other guys are making them. I'm hearing it from the Cuban people, that those cigars taste like.

• 28:31Speaker 05

  So what's going on in Cuba? They're about to, they're about to.

• 28:34Speaker 03

  Diaz is starting to, whatever, he's starting to.

• 28:36Speaker 05

  Negotiate with Trump? They're gonna lift the embargoes or whatever?

• 28:40Speaker 03

  I think, listen, forget the fucking embargo. They gotta lift the island. Get those people out of there.

• 28:46Speaker 05

  Get them all out?

• 28:47Speaker 03

  Fucking, that, they have roaring blackout, and that's three or four days ago. They got no power.

• 28:54Speaker 01

  Yeah, guess what, kids? Communism doesn't work.

• 28:56Speaker 03

  No, it don't fucking work.

• 28:57Speaker 05

  It never works. Well, Donny's tried it in New York.

• 29:02Speaker 01

  Yeah, sorta.

• 29:03Speaker 05

  Sorta.

• 29:04Speaker 01

  He's learning on the job.

• 29:05Speaker 05

  He's learning on the fly. It's not going great.

• 29:07Speaker 03

  The only good thing is they might open that fucking hole.

• 29:10Speaker 01

  You see that Kathy Hochul lady begging rich people to come back?

• 29:13Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 29:13Speaker 01

  Go to Palm Beach and grab your friends and tell them to come back to New York.

• 29:18Speaker 05

  What? What the fuck is going on?

• 29:20Speaker 01

  What is happening? Is this real life? How is that lady the governor of New York? How is that the real governor?

• 29:25Speaker 05

  Wild.

• 29:26Speaker 01

  It's a.

• 29:27Speaker 05

  The white lady?

• 29:28Speaker 01

  Yeah, the white lady. She's the white lady that said that, like, black people don't know what computers are.

• 29:33Speaker 05

  Just the most racist.

• 29:35Speaker 01

  What the fuck did you just say? She's also the one that said that G, that God brought them the vaccine. The vaccine's brought by God. Like, no, fucking Pfizer made it. They have a patent. Moderna made it.

• 29:47Speaker 05

  Fucking idiot.

• 29:47Speaker 01

  The fuck are you talking about? It's, how are you the governor?

• 29:50Speaker 05

  It's entertaining, though. Eddie, you gotta feel good, cause you, you were spot on on the Epstein stuff. How many, how long ago? Six years ago?

• 29:58Speaker 04

  How is this repeating shit that I see on, on YouTube, like?

• 30:01Speaker 05

  Nah, you call it.

• 30:02Speaker 03

  You might become the next Swami or Salami because, I'm telling you, I see those videos all the time. Now, Eddie Bravo was right. Eddie Bravo was right, and you're on a different platform.

• 30:12Speaker 01

  You're right all the time.

• 30:13Speaker 05

  I'm the one making them.

• 30:14Speaker 03

  Fuck these motherfuckers that were talking shit that you're crazy and.

• 30:18Speaker 01

  You mean Brian Callen? Well, the thing is, like, Eddie's open.

• 30:20Speaker 03

  Fucking Nirvana, you know, the whole thing.

• 30:24Speaker 01

  The Nirvana one's crazy. There was a new one today that I just said Jamie, uh, sent Jamie, uh, it's handwriting analysis of the suicide letter, and they're saying now it's counterfeit.

• 30:34Speaker 04

  Of Kurt Cobain?

• 30:35Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 30:35Speaker 04

  I haven't seen any of this. Clearly.

• 30:37Speaker 01

  I don't know if it's real.

• 30:38Speaker 04

  She fucking did it.

• 30:39Speaker 05

  Oh, I have no idea.

• 30:40Speaker 01

  No, bro.

• 30:40Speaker 05

  You should see that on YouTube.

• 30:42Speaker 04

  Have you ever watched the doc?

• 30:43Speaker 01

  I did.

• 30:44Speaker 04

  Bro.

• 30:44Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 30:44Speaker 04

  Come on.

• 30:45Speaker 01

  But it was also actors, actors saying things that you don't know if they said because no one was there.

• 30:50Speaker 04

  Be cool.

• 30:51Speaker 01

  But you know what I'm saying?

• 30:52Speaker 04

  Yeah, now I hear you.

• 30:53Speaker 01

  It's a little weird.

• 30:53Speaker 04

  It's a little weird.

• 30:54Speaker 01

  A little weird. You're talking about a...

• 30:55Speaker 04

  But the detectives who were like, there's no way you could, that size of a rifle.

• 30:59Speaker 01

  That makes sense, but it's not a documentary. If you got actors pretending to do roles, it gets a little squirrely.

• 31:04Speaker 02

  So what, even without that letter, it's kind of, I feel like most people can tell that the writing on the bottom is not the same as the writing on the top.

• 31:11Speaker 01

  That's when the heroin kicked in, dog. Tell them, Joey. When that heroin kicks in, your writing gets a little wacky.

• 31:17Speaker 04

  I, I think whoever killed Kurt.

• 31:20Speaker 01

  Goes out the window.

• 31:20Speaker 04

  Killed Chris Cornell and Chester Bennington.

• 31:23Speaker 01

  What? Oh, all of them?

• 31:24Speaker 04

  All of them. I think it's, my guess, it's the same people.

• 31:27Speaker 01

  But those, you don't think those guys committed suicide?

• 31:29Speaker 04

  I don't think so. I don't think so.

• 31:32Speaker 01

  The picture of Chester with his family literally the day before?

• 31:34Speaker 04

  Chris Cornell hung in a closet with broken ribs? There's a lot of shit.

• 31:38Speaker 01

  Broken ribs?

• 31:39Speaker 04

  Dude. There's a lot of shit. That's one thing.

• 31:42Speaker 01

  I didn't hear that.

• 31:42Speaker 04

  They said, oh, it was from the CPR.

• 31:45Speaker 01

  Oh, really?

• 31:45Speaker 04

  You hand me that lighter, Joe? You gotta, you gotta look into the Chris Cornell stuff, man. They murdered, they murdered that motherfucker, dude. That guy was murdered.

• 31:52Speaker 01

  But you do break ribs when you do CPR. You sure he didn't actually just hang himself?

• 31:56Speaker 04

  Dude, I've seen YouTube videos on this.

• 31:59Speaker 01

  Cause there's a lot of people that think that Borden didn't either, but I think he kinda did.

• 32:04Speaker 04

  The one, I don't know. This could be total bullshit, but, uh, we know Chester Bennington and Chris Cornell were like really good friends, maybe best friends. We know that. And, um, they were involved in some documentary about child trafficking.

• 32:20Speaker 01

  Child sex trafficking.

• 32:21Speaker 04

  Yeah. And so was, uh, Borden was involved in it too, and this, uh, DJ that died too. They got mysteriously, uh, committed suicide or whatever. There you go.

• 32:32Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 32:32Speaker 04

  They were all, I don't know, that might be bullshit, but that's what I'm hearing. I'm hearing that they were all involved in some project.

• 32:38Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 32:38Speaker 04

  And they clipped him.

• 32:39Speaker 01

  With Eddie's track record, eh, man, I'm, I'm, I'm listening, I'ma like it. I don't know, but it is.

• 32:45Speaker 04

  It is.

• 32:46Speaker 02

  That project disappeared weirdly. If that was a thing, like where, how, no one else is working on it and like, what, they just didn't want to put it out?

• 32:52Speaker 01

  Right.

• 32:53Speaker 02

  Did they get scared?

• 32:54Speaker 01

  Well, like they all died and stopped.

• 32:56Speaker 02

  Well, I mean, that's, I, I don't, the theory, that's, I'm just asking, like, they wouldn't have been making it individually on their own, like.

• 33:01Speaker 01

  Correct.

• 33:02Speaker 02

  They're not the ones filming stuff.

• 33:03Speaker 01

  Do you know that four of the people that debunked Pizza Gate, four of the journalists were arrested for child pornography?

• 33:12Speaker 01

  Have you ever seen that?

• 33:13Speaker 04

  No.

• 33:13Speaker 02

  Saw something about that. I don't think that's real.

• 33:15Speaker 01

  God, I hope it's not real.

• 33:16Speaker 02

  I don't think it is.

• 33:17Speaker 04

  You know, I, I went to that, uh, what, Comet's Pizza, I went there, talked to the guy.

• 33:21Speaker 01

  Somebody just sent it to me today.

• 33:22Speaker 04

  I went there.

• 33:24Speaker 01

  Was anybody that was, uh, a journalist? Cause I know there was a story, yeah, but at least one of the journalists.

• 33:28Speaker 02

  Yeah, when I tried to look it up the other day, I saw a story that's, a journalist got arrested for that, but I don't think that they had anything to do with reporting on Pizza Gate. It was like a vi- a vice reporter.

• 33:36Speaker 01

  They weren't one of the debunkers?

• 33:38Speaker 02

  I don't believe so. That's how, that's when I looked it up, it said that, I about to, I'll try again. Um, like four reporters arrested.

• 33:46Speaker 04

  So many, uh, deaths in, uh, the celebrity world that have, uh, a lot of suspicious, uh.

• 33:53Speaker 01

  How about the science world? How about that dude that was a plasma physicist and they whacked him at MIT and then they whacked another guy who was, uh, yeah. No one knows, he was assassinated. And then another guy just got killed.

• 34:05Speaker 04

  Well, did he discover something scientifically or something?

• 34:07Speaker 01

  Most likely. He was working on some very important stuff, some plasma physics.

• 34:11Speaker 04

  He probably said, hey, the moon's plasma, you can't land on that.

• 34:14Speaker 01

  He did not debunk.

• 34:15Speaker 02

  But this is old, this is twenty-three, this is all twenty-three, this, none of this is new.

• 34:17Speaker 01

  Right. No, no, it's all old arrests. It's not like a recent thing. Oh, so they're all older.

• 34:24Speaker 02

  So this is like, then it's like an old meme that thinks people bring it back up.

• 34:26Speaker 01

  So it's not true.

• 34:27Speaker 02

  I don't think.

• 34:28Speaker 01

  Eddie, what, what celebrity? So Elon Musk boosted it? Is that what it says?

• 34:31Speaker 02

  Pizza Gate.

• 34:32Speaker 01

  It says boosted the pizza gate. Oh, it just deboots that.

• 34:37Speaker 04

  When you look into the Michael Jackson death, that was, that's

• 34:40Speaker 05

  That was weird.

• 34:41Speaker 04

  That one's fucking weird.

• 34:42Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 34:43Speaker 04

  Uh JFK Junior?

• 34:44Speaker 01

  Yeah, but the Michael Jackson one, he was taking propofol every night. You can't do that. You can't just anesthetize yourself every night.

• 34:50Speaker 04

  But he also, like, maybe that's what they say. Like, you don't know. Maybe they, yeah, yeah, tell them.

• 34:56Speaker 05

  He did just get all his masters back and had the Beatles catalog too, which is weird.

• 35:05Speaker 01

  Put the headphones on or talk into the microphone.

• 35:07Speaker 03

  Do you see how much money Michael Jackson's made since he died?

• 35:10Speaker 04

  A trillion dollars?

• 35:12Speaker 03

  Bro, it's fucking wild.

• 35:14Speaker 05

  Him and Elvis are always like one and two.

• 35:16Speaker 01

  He blew up. How about Tupac? When Tupac pulled, put out his like fifth album after he was dead, we're like, where are these coming from?

• 35:23Speaker 05

  They thought he was alive.

• 35:24Speaker 04

  Remember that movie that Andrew Dice Clay did, like his only movie?

• 35:27Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 35:28Speaker 04

  Ford Fairlane, yeah. It was like, it was like, they put all this money, they blow it up and then for some reason, it didn't, it didn't, uh, it didn't make its money back or something. It was a failure. Then they kind of like just blackballed him after that. That's a deep ass movie. Ford Fairlane, he was a detective who was investigating celebrity deaths. And then at the end of the, at the end of the movie, they find out, he, he's like had, you know, there's a, there's a part where he's talking to like the executive, the head executive or the owner of a record company and they go, dude, soon as we kill him, motherfucker, we, he's, we immortalize him for life. He's worth.

• 36:02Speaker 01

  People knew that. They knew that forever.

• 36:04Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 36:05Speaker 01

  People, they did that forever. That, that's the suspicion about Jimi Hendrix.

• 36:08Speaker 04

  Yep, exactly. Jimi Hendrix. Kill them while they're hot instead of when they sell out and do commercial shit. You can't kill them then. Kill them when they're legendary. And then boom, whoever owns those masters, whoever owns those masters.

• 36:20Speaker 03

  Let's get, let's go to the fact fact. Let's go to the doctor that killed Michael Jackson, where he is today and how much time he got. Because there was a slip in the amount. You know.

• 36:30Speaker 05

  That's what it was?

• 36:31Speaker 03

  Maybe the guy got stuck watching. Maybe the guy got stuck watching stupid on CNN and he forgot to go in there. I think somebody knocking on his door gave him five mil and said, just put an extra two CCs in there.

• 36:42Speaker 05

  And he didn't get much time.

• 36:43Speaker 03

  No, he didn't get dick.

• 36:44Speaker 05

  Like a year maybe?

• 36:45Speaker 03

  He got nothing, Joe.

• 36:46Speaker 01

  Do you know, he said that he thinks that Michael Jackson was chemically castrated. You know that, right?

• 36:50Speaker 05

  He did say that.

• 36:51Speaker 01

  That's crazy.

• 36:52Speaker 05

  Have you ever listened to the Michael Jackson, like the cases, like the child sexual cases?

• 36:56Speaker 01

  No.

• 36:56Speaker 05

  Man.

• 36:57Speaker 01

  Didn't Cand- didn't Candace do a deep dive?

• 37:00Speaker 05

  Did she? She does a ton of deep dives.

• 37:01Speaker 01

  Did she do a deep dive on that? I'm not sure.

• 37:03Speaker 05

  I've seen a bunch of people do them and once you get the facts, like fuck, man, he got fucked.

• 37:08Speaker 04

  Do you think Candace, uh, is, uh,

• 37:12Speaker 04

  is on a list, man, to get like fucking.

• 37:15Speaker 01

  Get whacked?

• 37:15Speaker 04

  Yeah, dude, like.

• 37:17Speaker 01

  Um.

• 37:17Speaker 05

  Her and Tucker.

• 37:18Speaker 01

  I wouldn't be surprised.

• 37:20Speaker 04

  It's crazy, dude.

• 37:21Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 37:22Speaker 04

  Can you imagine living like that? You gotta, you're worried about.

• 37:25Speaker 01

  Just the fucking.

• 37:26Speaker 04

  Being assassinated.

• 37:28Speaker 01

  I know. Just the guy in France.

• 37:30Speaker 05

  And her neighbor's Theo. Her neighbor's Theo. Her and Theo live like next door to each other.

• 37:36Speaker 04

  Candace Owens?

• 37:36Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 37:37Speaker 04

  No, fuck.

• 37:37Speaker 05

  They're super close.

• 37:38Speaker 04

  For real?

• 37:38Speaker 05

  Cause I was at, I was at Tucker Carlson's Christmas party.

• 37:41Speaker 04

  What?

• 37:42Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 37:42Speaker 04

  How did you get that invite?

• 37:44Speaker 05

  He knows, man. Theo. No, I didn't know Theo was gonna be there, but I, I go. And someone wanted pictures of me and Theo and Theo goes, let's get a black in here. I'm like, oh dude, he goes Candace, Candace. I'm like, but I didn't know they knew each other. I'm like, hey dude, fucking cut it. And then she's like, oh, laughing. And I was like, oh, how you know Candace? She's like, oh dude, that's like, she's like a fucking sister. He's like, the kids call him Uncle Theo and shit. He's over there like four days a week for dinner and shit.

• 38:10Speaker 04

  Has Theo done her podcast? Or has she done his podcast?

• 38:13Speaker 01

  I'm pretty sure she's done his.

• 38:14Speaker 05

  Yeah, I think she's done his. I don't think he would go on hers. She doesn't really do that type of shit.

• 38:19Speaker 01

  Did Theo have Candace on?

• 38:21Speaker 05

  I, I'm pretty sure. Cause they were talking about.

• 38:23Speaker 01

  This is a good fight.

• 38:25Speaker 05

  Great fight.

• 38:26Speaker 01

  Roman DeLizze and Christian Leroy Duncan. Christian Leroy Duncan is a wicked striker.

• 38:31Speaker 05

  They kinda fucked MVP over a little bit, yeah?

• 38:34Speaker 01

  Well, I mean, a little bit. First of all, they're fucking him over because he's fighting a guy who was a teammate.

• 38:40Speaker 05

  Super close teammate. Doesn't make a ton of sense, doesn't move him up in the rankings, but then he's also on his last fight on his contract.

• 38:47Speaker 01

  Yeah. Well, you know, the kid's good, but Michael Venn Page is something very unique and most people just can't handle him.

• 38:56Speaker 05

  Yeah, but he's unique because when you fight him, you can't mimic his style. So the first time you see it, it's when it's live with the lights on and Bruce Buffer is fucking shouting. But now that your training partner for years knows that element of surprise is gone, it really fucks him.

• 39:11Speaker 01

  Right, but it's also like, how many times did Venom Page piece that dude up?

• 39:15Speaker 05

  True, but apparently he was choking MVP out left and right.

• 39:18Speaker 01

  I bet, right?

• 39:19Speaker 05

  That's what he said. His anacones and darcas are really good.

• 39:22Speaker 01

  Oh, interesting.

• 39:23Speaker 05

  That's where it gets weird.

• 39:24Speaker 01

  Right, he might have a grappling advantage.

• 39:26Speaker 05

  But if I'm MVP, I'm like, bro, there's so many guys on the roster. You can't fucking toss me anybody else? A guy trained with non-stop?

• 39:34Speaker 03

  Joe, I'm gonna do a fucking smelling salt. Knock it off.

• 39:37Speaker 01

  I should do a smelling salt.

• 39:38Speaker 05

  I'm down for some smelling salts. Yeah, let's get loose.

• 39:43Speaker 01

  I've had allergies all week. Oh, it's been killing me.

• 39:49Speaker 01

  Shit, this Christian Leroy Duncan dude is fun, man.

• 39:52Speaker 05

  Dude, you don't think they could have done Christian Leroy Duncan vs MVP at middleweight?

• 39:55Speaker 01

  Oh, they could have.

• 39:56Speaker 05

  That's a motherfucking fight.

• 39:57Speaker 01

  God, that's a crazy fight. That's crazy. What's up, bro?

• 40:05Speaker 05

  Here we go.

• 40:12Speaker 05

  That's a bad one, huh, Joe?

• 40:15Speaker 01

  I took deep breaths. I was really trying to clear that nose out.

• 40:19Speaker 05

  I need it, I need it myself.

• 40:23Speaker 03

  I don't know if I should do this. I gotta land a Newark tonight, you know what I'm saying? I don't wanna smell that shit.

• 40:27Speaker 01

  You definitely need it.

• 40:30Speaker 05

  Are there any homeless people that just do that like all day?

• 40:34Speaker 01

  Nah.

• 40:34Speaker 05

  No?

• 40:34Speaker 01

  Meth. It doesn't have the same impact that paint does.

• 40:44Speaker 04

  Now, ready?

• 40:48Speaker 05

  That's what you need for allergies.

• 40:50Speaker 01

  So, DeLizze. DeLizze has Christian Leroy Duncan down on the ground for folks watching that want to sync up. It's three minutes and thirty-four, thirty-three, thirty-two, thirty-one, thirty of the first round.

• 41:05Speaker 05

  So, just tell you guys how good that main event is. Between the two of them, they're thirty-seven and oh.

• 41:09Speaker 01

  That's nuts.

• 41:10Speaker 05

  That's crazy. Okay, what's the rest of the card? You said it's great. Rattle it off. Uh, MVP's fight is interesting because it's a training partner. Oh, that's what you were just talking about? Yeah, that we're talking about.

• 41:23Speaker 01

  Yeah, Jamie.

• 41:24Speaker 05

  He's fighting a training partner. Like, super close training partner. Like, why would they do that? Like, you would just stay away from that shit. He's been, he's been kind of outspoken too about fight or pay and them kind of screwing him over, so, you know.

• 41:34Speaker 01

  Oh, really?

• 41:35Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah. Yeah, we had, uh... So, they're gonna discipline. We had two 10th Planet guys fight, uh, each other once, Alan Jubon versus Ben Saunders. Oh, yeah. That sucked. Damn, it was like... Was the fight good, though? I didn't corner nobody. I didn't even watch it. How was the fight? Uh, Jubon won. But it was it like back and forth, like a great fight? I don't even... They never are. This is the problem. Like, when I fought Orlovsky, I was like, what? That's my training partner. Because he knows what I do. I know what he does. So then, when you get in there, it's kind of like...

• 42:04Speaker 01

  That is weird.

• 42:05Speaker 05

  It's, it's a boring-ass fight because you're not doing your usual shit.

• 42:09Speaker 01

  This is the White House card.

• 42:11Speaker 05

  No way, that's a great fight. Elia Tapora, just a gay, gee, what are you talking about?

• 42:16Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's an amazing fight. That's a fuck.

• 42:18Speaker 05

  I don't know, I don't know A-Mind Zahabi. I don't know him. He's run like eight of them.

• 42:22Speaker 01

  A-Mind Zahabi's good. He beat Cheeto Vera.

• 42:25Speaker 05

  Okay, okay. Let me ask you this, fellas. Oh, damn, that's another great fight. Yeah, they're all good. Those are good fights. Uh, Sean O'Malley's probably the favorite here, but outside of like the big dogs, what American are we gonna celebrate? You know what I'm saying? Like... Bo Nickle. That's the American fucking Bo Nickle. Who's Kyle Dokus?

• 42:43Speaker 01

  Kyle Dokus is a problem. He's very good.

• 42:46Speaker 05

  That's a tough... What's his style? Wrestler striker?

• 42:48Speaker 01

  He's a boxer with jiu-jitsu.

• 42:50Speaker 05

  And wrestling, yeah. Oh, shit, okay. Yeah, it's not an easy fight. It's not an easy fight for Bo.

• 42:54Speaker 01

  He's a veteran, too.

• 42:55Speaker 05

  And Steve Garcia, who's that?

• 42:57Speaker 01

  He's a fucking animal dude.

• 42:58Speaker 05

  That's the, that's the funnest fight in the car like.

• 43:00Speaker 01

  Steve Garcia. Steve Garcia.

• 43:02Speaker 05

  Striker or wrestler?

• 43:03Speaker 01

  Striker. Well, he can do it everything. He can do everything, but vicious striker, fucking super aggressive. Just a wild dude and Diego Lopez, same. Diego Lopez has a wicked ground game too. People forget, he almost caught Evil Ove a couple times on the ground.

• 43:18Speaker 05

  He fought combat jiu-jitsu, dog.

• 43:19Speaker 01

  He's legit on the ground.

• 43:20Speaker 05

  Anytime he wins is good for us. You're like, oh, we take all his highlights.

• 43:23Speaker 01

  You know, I love the mustache, but I, I hate the bangs. I gotta say.

• 43:27Speaker 05

  Yeah, it's very like, uh, emo.

• 43:29Speaker 01

  The Mustangs. Mustangs is awesome.

• 43:32Speaker 05

  But, um.

• 43:32Speaker 03

  I don't like mustache. Do you remember that guy on Apple TV?

• 43:35Speaker 05

  Undercard? No, this is, this is the fight tonight. Oh, this tonight?

• 43:40Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 43:41Speaker 05

  This tonight?

• 43:41Speaker 01

  That's right now.

• 43:42Speaker 05

  Michael Page is fighting tonight?

• 43:43Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 43:43Speaker 05

  Oh shit, okay.

• 43:44Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 43:45Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 43:47Speaker 05

  I didn't know that. Luke Riley, so the co-main event, Luke Riley, he's huge over there. Huge. So where are we at right now?

• 43:53Speaker 01

  We are at this right here. Christian Leroy Duncan and Roman De Luce. Look, turn to your right.

• 43:57Speaker 05

  And then we're going up. We're going up. Now who's the headliner?

• 44:00Speaker 01

  The headliner is Evil Ove and Laurel.

• 44:02Speaker 05

  Both undefeated. Okay. So like talent, like skill wise, that's better than anything on.

• 44:08Speaker 01

  Oh, we're missing.

• 44:08Speaker 05

  Netflix card or the White House card. Oh shit. Okay, okay. They're just not.

• 44:12Speaker 01

  De Luce might be in trouble here. He's on his back and I just saw Christian Leroy Duncan tag him a couple of times.

• 44:24Speaker 05

  Joe, did you see they filled out the rest of that MVP card? That thing's getting tasty. Luke Rockwell's returning, is that real? I, I see. I don't know. Is that real?

• 44:32Speaker 01

  I don't know.

• 44:33Speaker 05

  The one with Ronda Rousey?

• 44:34Speaker 01

  Yeah, that card's stacked.

• 44:35Speaker 05

  What do you guys think about Ronda Rousey, Gina Carano?

• 44:37Speaker 01

  They're both very old.

• 44:39Speaker 05

  I think it's a great fight. I, I'm gonna.

• 44:42Speaker 01

  It's not a great fight.

• 44:43Speaker 05

  I'm into it.

• 44:43Speaker 01

  No, no, here.

• 44:44Speaker 05

  I'm into it. You're gonna watch it though.

• 44:45Speaker 01

  Oh, of course.

• 44:46Speaker 05

  A million percent.

• 44:47Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 44:47Speaker 05

  So any fight that you would watch a million percent?

• 44:49Speaker 01

  Oh, I'm in, bro. I'm just saying as far as like, Ronda's should be a minus four thousand favorite. She's gonna starch her, dude.

• 44:57Speaker 05

  Gina had some decent striking, man. And she had good jiu-jitsu too.

• 45:00Speaker 01

  Twenty years ago, Eddie.

• 45:01Speaker 05

  She still looks young.

• 45:05Speaker 05

  She's still done, right?

• 45:07Speaker 01

  I love Gina.

• 45:07Speaker 05

  Gina Carano looks young.

• 45:08Speaker 01

  I love Gina, but it, you know, she, she hasn't been active in fucking, literally like fifteen years.

• 45:12Speaker 05

  She's, looks like she's in great shape. Have you, do you see her throwing those flying knees for other?

• 45:16Speaker 01

  No, she looks.

• 45:17Speaker 05

  What do you think they paid Francis?

• 45:21Speaker 05

  Two million.

• 45:22Speaker 01

  So if we're right about the Nate number, if, if all the rumors, not we, it's not my, my thoughts. People are saying it's more than 10.

• 45:30Speaker 05

  So it's one of 10, Francis has to be getting 20.

• 45:32Speaker 01

  Gotta get 20.

• 45:33Speaker 05

  20.

• 45:33Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 45:34Speaker 05

  And he's coming from that box of money too?

• 45:36Speaker 01

  He's the lineal heavyweight champion of M M A.

• 45:39Speaker 05

  Correct.

• 45:39Speaker 01

  The only reason why, I mean, he never lost his title, he just left the organization.

• 45:43Speaker 05

  Just left.

• 45:43Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 45:44Speaker 05

  My thing is with, with MVP and everyone's like, oh, they can't compete with the UFC and it, it's almost impossible because they like Netflix's business model is like these spectacles, like they're fun fights, but it doesn't really move. It doesn't move as far as like rankings or competition.

• 46:01Speaker 01

  You're right.

• 46:01Speaker 05

  So where do they go from here?

• 46:02Speaker 01

  They gotta start having, they gotta have Netflix fucking championships. You know what they gotta do? They gotta come up with a name for the show and then it's, and then start putting out belts. It's really easy.

• 46:13Speaker 05

  But there's, they don't have the roster.

• 46:15Speaker 01

  It's called MVP?

• 46:16Speaker 05

  MVP.

• 46:16Speaker 01

  MVP champion, MVP middleweight champion.

• 46:19Speaker 05

  Like, let's say Francis wins.

• 46:23Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 46:24Speaker 05

  Then what now? Like, where do we go from here?

• 46:26Speaker 01

  No, this is where you start. In the beginning, you don't have any champions, but eventually you build champions. And then you can just say, okay, whoever wins this fight is a champion.

• 46:32Speaker 05

  Like PFL? They're fucking sinking ship.

• 46:35Speaker 01

  Lorenz Larkin and Jason Jackson, that's exciting.

• 46:40Speaker 05

  Love Lorenz Larkin.

• 46:41Speaker 01

  What do you think about Nate Diaz, Mike Perry? What do you think, what do you think happens there?

• 46:44Speaker 05

  It depends what version of Nate we get. Like, you know, he's older, um, now if it's straight beer knuckle, that's Mike Perry's game all day, he can beat the brakes off him. But Nate, it's tough in the clinch, you know, it's grappling, that's not Mike's thing. If that's a good, that's a, but those, this is my thing about Netflix. This is the difference of what the UFC is doing, what Netflix, this is fun. Like for the casuals, people are like, that's gonna be the most watched MMA fight of all time.

• 47:08Speaker 01

  Lorenz Larkin is the only guy I ever saw throw oblique kicks to the body nasty against Neil Magny. I was like, oh shit, I never saw anybody do him like that.

• 47:17Speaker 05

  What's an oblique kick to the body?

• 47:18Speaker 01

  You know how the oblique kick comes out like this?

• 47:20Speaker 05

  They call that an oblique kick?

• 47:22Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 47:22Speaker 05

  Yeah. Isn't your obliques right here?

• 47:24Speaker 01

  He's kicking the body with it.

• 47:26Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 47:27Speaker 01

  I don't know why they call it the oblique kick.

• 47:28Speaker 05

  My obliques are making a comeback.

• 47:30Speaker 01

  What is the reason they call it the oblique kick?

• 47:33Speaker 04

  10th Planet Kush, episode 20 with the cats.

• 47:36Speaker 01

  Let's uh find out why do they call that the oblique kick? But either way, um I never saw anybody, everybody throws it to the legs.

• 47:42Speaker 04

  Lorenzo's a bad motherfucker, man.

• 47:44Speaker 01

  It's nasty, he's nasty striker, like a wicked striker.

• 47:48Speaker 04

  Do you remember? He has some cool trucks too. Do you, do you remember that um I used to do a little uh YouTube show?

• 47:53Speaker 01

  The angle, that's what it is, the angle and line of the strike, not for the core oblique muscles. That's what I thought, so it's uh, meaning slanted or diagonal in geometry. There it is, that makes sense.

• 48:05Speaker 04

  My obliques are making a comeback!

• 48:07Speaker 01

  Yeah because he's the only guy, he actually kinda throws it to your obliques.

• 48:10Speaker 04

  I played, I played that video, there's a, uh Joey used to do his uh UFC pics, called 10th Planet Kush and I would film him, and um, he would be, he'd bat like 500, he'd, he'd give, give, uh there's a UFC coming up, and I'd film him, we'd be like in that alley next to a dumpster. At Houston, Houston, we did it all over the place. So it's like a UFC's coming up, here's 10th Planet Kush, episode 6, and it'd be Joey Diaz and he fucking- With his UFC pics? Yeah, UFC 6. It's tough to do. And while I'm, while I'm, while I'm filming it.

• 48:38Speaker 01

  I'm owing 6 every fucking week.

• 48:39Speaker 04

  Yeah, while I'm filming it. UFC's tough.

• 48:41Speaker 01

  You cannot pick 6 fights in the UFC.

• 48:43Speaker 04

  Well check this out though, while I, this is what, this is the, the, the moral of the story, is, I, when I film him, it's always one take, he gives his pics, and he's like batting like 500, right? And I, and I laugh like 2 or 3 times, like I'm filming, I'm like, ahh! You know, and he, and, one, one episode, this is episode 20, 10th Planet Kush, episode 20, I decide to go to his house, his apartment, to film it, and he had 10 cats. He had 10 cats, so I go and I film, and so basically I do a little documentary on all his cats, he's giving me the lowdown on all his cats, and it's amazing, these cats are fucking beautiful in a small little apartment. You didn't get hate where people like, just give us the goddamn pics?

• 49:25Speaker 04

  No, well, no, no, no, so, by the time we got to the pics, we went through all the stories of all the cats, and which cats are fighting other cats, which cats get along with other cats, he had Fidel, little Fidelito, he had Fidel in his, eh eh eh, in his lap, and Fidel was the fucking most beautiful cat ever, and then he was ready to give his pics, and all of a sudden, after we go through all the cats- And he's ready to give his picks, he's holding Fede Lito. And then dude, he just fucking is on fire. He gives all his picks. There's like so much. He's go on fire and I'm laughing through the whole thing. Cause he's on fucking fire. He goes, I just got back from Pilates or yoga. Was it yoga or Pilates? Yoga. I just got back from yoga. My obliques are making a comeback.

• 50:10Speaker 04

  And he's going off and he's holding Fede Lito, his cat. And he's going off and I was laughing my, when you wa, if you watch this, I, you, I'm gonna annoy you. Because I'm laughing too much as he's on fire. I'm laughing the whole time. I remember it. And then when I go, then I, I'm driving home. I couldn't wait to edit it and upload it to YouTube. I'm like, oh my God. This was special. This was special. This is gonna be a good one. And you know what? He got all the fights right. Damn. Thousand percent. It's tough to do. Dude, those cats, those cats, they knew dude, the cats knew. I take my cat to the track with me, you know what I'm saying? I tell you. Those motherfuckers. How many cats do you have now? One. Just one? I got four. Good girl.

• 50:49Speaker 01

  So I think this is the end of the second round here. We got one more round. We should probably pay attention to this.

• 50:54Speaker 04

  What do you got, Joe?

• 50:55Speaker 05

  Two dogs.

• 50:56Speaker 04

  That's it?

• 50:56Speaker 01

  Two dogs.

• 50:57Speaker 05

  Cats?

• 50:57Speaker 04

  No cats? Dude, get some cats, Joe.

• 51:00Speaker 05

  Get some cats.

• 51:01Speaker 04

  No more chickens?

• 51:02Speaker 01

  I got a bunch of chickens.

• 51:03Speaker 04

  Really?

• 51:03Speaker 01

  Yeah. I think like 15 of them.

• 51:06Speaker 04

  Dude, I'm all in on cats. I never was a cat person growing up, never understood them. Until like the last six years. And now dude.

• 51:15Speaker 01

  Cats are fun.

• 51:16Speaker 04

  My, my cats are everything to me, man.

• 51:18Speaker 05

  Joe, did you see the, Mo Sarv said he can, he does 1500 pushups in an hour?

• 51:23Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's bananas.

• 51:24Speaker 04

  That's not real, right? That's not real.

• 51:26Speaker 01

  He was doing a thousand, now he can do 1500. I mean, maybe he can do it.

• 51:31Speaker 04

  Those guys in prison do a thousand.

• 51:32Speaker 01

  He's in shape.

• 51:34Speaker 04

  Right, those guys in prison do a thousand.

• 51:35Speaker 01

  The question is, what do they look like? Are they full extension?

• 51:38Speaker 04

  Agree.

• 51:39Speaker 01

  Or the, is he doing?

• 51:40Speaker 04

  I would like a video of it.

• 51:41Speaker 01

  Is he doing these things?

• 51:42Speaker 04

  Yeah. Like when I said like event shoot 25, whatever, like 38, 39 times.

• 51:47Speaker 01

  Where's he from?

• 51:47Speaker 04

  Somewhere tough and cold.

• 51:50Speaker 01

  Where is Evloev from? What country?

• 51:53Speaker 04

  Probably fucking Russia.

• 51:54Speaker 01

  He's a Russian, I think, but I, like, I don't know what part, you know?

• 51:57Speaker 04

  Damn, that guy's karate. Look at that dude.

• 51:59Speaker 01

  Oh yeah, Christian Leroy Duncan's a beast.

• 52:00Speaker 04

  Dude. What the fuck?

• 52:02Speaker 01

  He's fun.

• 52:02Speaker 04

  Yo, he throws anything. Jamie, did he say 1500 in an hour?

• 52:07Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 52:08Speaker 01

  Where's uh?

• 52:09Speaker 04

  I'm calling bullshit.

• 52:10Speaker 01

  Where's Mozfar from?

• 52:14Speaker 01

  Evluev.

• 52:16Speaker 03

  It sounds like Estonia. I don't want it to. I could smell that shit.

• 52:21Speaker 01

  Joe, I'll take one more.

• 52:22Speaker 03

  That was good shit. I did it twice. I was good. Do you have small salts at home where you go every now and then, pop, pop? You know what? I do them and I get so high that I forget to put the lid on them and then two days later I go back and they're dead. I gotta get some more.

• 52:35Speaker 01

  Yeah, he's from Russia.

• 52:37Speaker 03

  Yeah, could be more Russian.

• 52:38Speaker 01

  One of the things about Russian, when they do, I was watching this video, I don't know how accurate the video was, but I started incorporating it. When they do sets of pushups, they don't do it for numbers, they do it for time under tension. Their whole idea is like do it slow and do less repetitions is harder. And you know, you're doing it like time under tension. Like instead of doing like twenty, we could just stop at twenty or fifty when you stop. You're, you're, you're slow through the whole thing.

• 53:06Speaker 03

  That's supposed to be better to build muscle.

• 53:08Speaker 01

  Yeah, with your whole body tensed up. You're supposed to tense your asshole, tense your calves, tense your legs.

• 53:14Speaker 03

  That's some Russian shit.

• 53:15Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's interesting. I started doing it.

• 53:17Speaker 03

  It's interesting that people. Remember when we were kids, had the bulwarker? You ever have the bulwarker jump, that thing, then you squeeze?

• 53:26Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, that spring thing.

• 53:28Speaker 03

  A lot of people go, as you get old, the isometric is a lot better. What you're doing those pushups, that's fucking money. A ten count and slow. There's a guy that wrote a book, The Power of Something.

• 53:41Speaker 03

  The Power of One or something. That was great. There's this dude that wrote The Power of Something. But the book is about, instead of doing five sets of eight squats, do one set of the heaviest squats you could do for four and get the fuck off the squat rack. You go to the bench press, again, instead of doing three sets of eight, do a set of nine, basically you feel like puking. And then from there you do like three or four movements and you're out of there in a half hour. I like that.

• 54:09Speaker 01

  There's a lot of people, is that Mike Mentzer? Was that his idea?

• 54:11Speaker 03

  No, no, no. Mike Mentzer is one of the guys. He does more dumbbell. This is, uh. It's similar what I do. The Power of Ten. It's ten sets, that's it. The Power of Ten. That's it. Just when you, when you, and they do the worst workout because when you walk in, there's no warm up, there's no nothing. They put you on the heavy.

• 54:28Speaker 04

  I like that, no warm up.

• 54:30Speaker 01

  That sounds like a great way to tear your shit apart.

• 54:31Speaker 03

  That's what I'm saying, but they, she, dog, those squats used to make. Me get anxiety. She put like four hundred on those things and go, go. And you're like, but she won't let you go for ten seconds. And it's, I, I, I don't know, but I just read about it. I'm like, you know what? Maybe I'm incorporated.

• 54:49Speaker 01

  You always wonder like how many people are overtraining, you know, and how much more resist more rest. If you got more rest, how much more growth you would have.

• 54:58Speaker 03

  Well, Mike Mensah was twenty sets per body part.

• 55:01Speaker 01

  That's what he did, bro.

• 55:02Speaker 04

  Geez. That's too much.

• 55:03Speaker 03

  Mike Mensah, that was a four split, that was a two split.

• 55:06Speaker 04

  Who has that time though, too?

• 55:08Speaker 03

  That's when you're a professional weightlifter, that's what you fucking do.

• 55:11Speaker 04

  You want to hear some crazy shit?

• 55:13Speaker 03

  You fucking grow all day, get it, man? And drink protein bar, you know, it's the same fucking thing, you know?

• 55:19Speaker 04

  You know, you want to hear, want to hear some crazy shit? When George Sodropolis was in Australia, I, I was courting George Sodropolis. He's fighting Dennis Seaver, remember that? Dennis Seaver, double tree trunk legs. Yep. And the guy was known for throwing turn and side kicks like Joe. That was his shit. And if he landed it, dude, you're fucking going to sleep.

• 55:36Speaker 01

  A good one.

• 55:37Speaker 04

  Yeah, so, uh, we're, he's gonna fight him, we're on our way to the fight. And this motherfucker before the fight is in the weight room, we're walking through and we see him in the weight room. Dennis Seaver is doing fucking squats with heavy squats right before his fight. Like, what the fuck?

• 55:57Speaker 05

  Trying to get his.

• 55:58Speaker 04

  What, what do you think that was about?

• 55:59Speaker 01

  Ramped up. Yeah, wake his body up.

• 56:01Speaker 05

  Yeah, wake his body up.

• 56:02Speaker 01

  If you only did one set, it wouldn't fuck you up too bad.

• 56:04Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 56:05Speaker 01

  Especially if he's used to doing it too. It would make you weaker though.

• 56:07Speaker 04

  It scared the shit out of me, dude.

• 56:09Speaker 01

  You know, when I, you ever do those grip strength things?

• 56:11Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 56:12Speaker 01

  Here's the thing about those things, you do it once, you get your highest number. After that, everything drops off. So like, how much of that is like with squats and with everything else too? If he's doing like heavy lifting right before a fight, how much pep does that take out of his legs? I don't know.

• 56:26Speaker 04

  I don't know.

• 56:26Speaker 05

  It might be a thing he's been doing though, you know?

• 56:28Speaker 01

  Deleze's got, he's got a Christian Leroy Duncan's back, I don't know what happened.

• 56:33Speaker 04

  He's got a little body tris.

• 56:34Speaker 01

  So much. It's just one of those things where it's like, everybody's got a, like, Marab Spar's five hard rounds the day of a fight.

• 56:42Speaker 04

  Randy Couture used to do that too. Tiago Alves was the first guy that I saw like working out really hard before his fight. I'm like, what the fuck is he doing?

• 56:52Speaker 01

  They were doing that to replenish glycogen. So, cause Tiago Alves cut a ton of weight. And when Tiago Alves cut all that weight, they would, he had this guy who was a scientist who explained it to me. And he was like, you put a certain amount of carbohydrates, but you need a certain amount of exercise so that the sugar gets back into the muscles.

• 57:10Speaker 04

  Yeah, you gotta get through that after you, you go through that extreme weight cut. This is what he said, cause I asked him, what the fuck are you doing? He goes, you gotta blast, you gotta get, uh, you gotta, um, uh, get to a, like your heart rate at a certain rate where it forgets that you lost all that weight and now you're back to normal. Because the first gassing is you're gonna be fucked. If, if your first gas after the weight cut is in the fight, you're fucked. Yeah. You gotta get that first gas out before, so by the time you get to the cage, your body forgot about it.

• 57:43Speaker 01

  It's probably both things because it's definitely, you remember how big he got? Bro, remember when he fought Matt Hughes?

• 57:49Speaker 04

  Massive.

• 57:50Speaker 01

  He was, he looked like a fucking heavyweight. He was gigantic.

• 57:52Speaker 04

  What happened in that fight? I don't, I don't remember.

• 57:54Speaker 01

  He stopped him with a flying knee, right?

• 57:56Speaker 04

  Matt Hughes?

• 57:57Speaker 01

  Yeah. Didn't he stop Matt Hughes with a flying knee?

• 58:00Speaker 04

  I forget.

• 58:00Speaker 01

  Wasn't that when he was coming out?

• 58:01Speaker 04

  Yeah, and that was like his coming out party. That's how he made like.

• 58:04Speaker 01

  One of the big victories. Tiago was a problem. He was a big fucker, dude. He was a big, yeah, there it is.

• 58:14Speaker 04

  Boom!

• 58:15Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 58:16Speaker 04

  Look at his traps there.

• 58:18Speaker 01

  Bro.

• 58:18Speaker 04

  Dude.

• 58:19Speaker 01

  He was a terrifying dude. Look at the size of him, man.

• 58:22Speaker 04

  Brutal.

• 58:23Speaker 01

  He was so big. Yeah. That was crazy. That was a bad one. Tiago was a real problem in his prime, dude. People forget, you know, they forget, they forget. They see guys lose later in their career, they forget. In his prime, Tiago Alves was a nightmare, man. Devastating leg kicks too. Would whip them down on you.

• 58:43Speaker 04

  Oh, buddy.

• 58:43Speaker 01

  Oh, he whipped his leg kicks, mate. Fuck guys up.

• 58:46Speaker 04

  That came along like around COVID and during the Colin McGregor time, they don't know any of this old school shit.

• 58:51Speaker 01

  Oh dude, there's so much timeline.

• 58:53Speaker 04

  Dude, how about the late? Nineties shit, are you up with the late nineties shit? Like the early UFC's?

• 58:57Speaker 01

  Fuck yeah.

• 58:58Speaker 04

  And all that shit?

• 58:58Speaker 01

  Yeah, man.

• 58:59Speaker 04

  UFC one through eight? Dude, I had all those fights on one VHS tape. It was a four hour tape. Edited, just the fights and the tail of the tape.

• 59:08Speaker 01

  Let's see who wants this.

• 59:09Speaker 04

  UFC one through eight?

• 59:10Speaker 01

  Yeah, man.

• 59:11Speaker 04

  I put it at the strip club, dog. All day we'd be watching fights. Dudes wouldn't even be watching the chicks. And the chicks were getting mad. They go, can you turn that shit off? Nobody's even looking at my pussy. Girls would get mad and the manager like, shut the fuck up. Go give, go give a lap dance. We're watching the fights.

• 59:28Speaker 01

  Alright, who won? Christian did. Christian Leroy Duncan? Yep.

• 59:33Speaker 04

  You know, I'm at the gym and they show, uh, like, there's like a best of UFC at the gym all the time. And I, I just saw Stephen Thompson, Wonder Boy versus Kevin Holland. God damn, that was a good fight. You remember that fight? Cause some people that throw wheel kicks, they'll throw one, maybe two in a fight. Dude, Stephen Thompson threw fucking thirty-eight wheel kicks. He kept throwing them over and over and over like, that's some barbozo, might give you one in a fight, maybe two. Dude, do you remember that fight? Kevin Tom?

• 1:00:04Speaker 01

  Very well.

• 1:00:05Speaker 04

  Kevin Holland? Did Wonder Boy retire? Damn. Did he retire? Uh, I don't know. He might have one left.

• 1:00:10Speaker 01

  I don't know.

• 1:00:11Speaker 04

  But Kevin Holland is an amazing fucking warrior, dude. He took a lot of, he was throwing a lot of shit.

• 1:00:17Speaker 01

  Yeah, it was a weird fight.

• 1:00:18Speaker 04

  And he took a lot of shit.

• 1:00:19Speaker 01

  It was a weird fight because Kevin made like a, they made an agreement not to go to the ground.

• 1:00:22Speaker 04

  Which is so stupid.

• 1:00:23Speaker 01

  Crazy.

• 1:00:24Speaker 04

  Oh, really? I did not know that.

• 1:00:26Speaker 01

  You're fighting a guy who's the-

• 1:00:27Speaker 04

  That changes everything.

• 1:00:28Speaker 01

  You're fighting a guy who's the scariest kickboxer in the division. Just kickboxing.

• 1:00:32Speaker 04

  And that's why you love Kevin Holland, but what are you doing?

• 1:00:34Speaker 01

  Dude, when he was in his prime as a kickboxer, I think he was something crazy like sixty-one and oh?

• 1:00:39Speaker 04

  Oh, even more than that, it was over a hundred. You, do, you-

• 1:00:41Speaker 01

  What?

• 1:00:42Speaker 04

  So I met Wonder Boy Thompson, GSP brought him into our camp. Was a nobody, had no MMA fights. And GSP was like, you guys are gonna wanna spar with this guy. It's crazy. Dude, it was, it's like, uh, in that movie fucking, uh, Rush Hour. Where Chris Tucker's hit was like, which one of y'all hit me?

• 1:00:58Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:00:59Speaker 04

  Dude, he throw wheel kicks like Japs. Everybody.

• 1:01:02Speaker 01

  Yeah, no, he was, he was-

• 1:01:03Speaker 04

  You've never seen anything like it. Never seen anything like it.

• 1:01:05Speaker 01

  If there was a real kickboxing league, that guy would have been a huge superstar. Isn't it crazy like slap fighting is big and they can't figure out.

• 1:01:14Speaker 04

  Is it though?

• 1:01:15Speaker 05

  Or combat jiu jitsu.

• 1:01:17Speaker 04

  Yeah, combat's a different kind of big.

• 1:01:18Speaker 05

  Right there.

• 1:01:19Speaker 01

  Bro, one FC has, they have atom weight fights. They have dudes that are fighting that are a hundred and five pounds in Muay Thai. And they move so fast, you would swear that your fucking phone is on double speed.

• 1:01:33Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:01:33Speaker 01

  You watch it, you're like.

• 1:01:34Speaker 04

  Wow.

• 1:01:35Speaker 01

  How is this real?

• 1:01:36Speaker 04

  Dude, like boxing was like that back in the day, in the heyday. Remember um, uh, uh, Carvajal versus, uh, uh, Barrera? That was a hundred and fifteen pound boxers. Max, hundred and fifteen pounds.

• 1:01:50Speaker 01

  Isn't it interesting that you can't really do that in MMA? It's like anything below, even one twenty-five.

• 1:01:55Speaker 04

  People don't fuck with them.

• 1:01:56Speaker 01

  It's hard for people to fuck with.

• 1:01:58Speaker 04

  Dude, there were big fucking fights in Marco Antonio Barrera versus Michael Carvajal. Those dudes were one fifteen.

• 1:02:05Speaker 05

  But Joe, when you, when you say slap fight's big, it's like it, it, it, it gets views, but there's no, you can't name a slap fight athlete.

• 1:02:14Speaker 01

  Right, no, that's true.

• 1:02:15Speaker 04

  It's like the spectacle.

• 1:02:17Speaker 01

  The thing is that it's just getting a lot of attention.

• 1:02:19Speaker 04

  It gets a lot of attention, but.

• 1:02:21Speaker 03

  You know, man, I've been going on deep holes on old school boxing. Like Duran, Mugabe, Thomas Hearns, Sugar Ray. Late night, I watched those things and I call him and I go, what was going on back then? That's different from now. And we both go, those motherfuckers didn't give a fuck about brain damage.

• 1:02:39Speaker 04

  They were tougher.

• 1:02:40Speaker 05

  Marvin Hagler, no, these guys today are even tougher.

• 1:02:42Speaker 04

  Oh, I disagree.

• 1:02:43Speaker 05

  And solid.

• 1:02:44Speaker 01

  Watch these dudes. This Japanese dude, uh, on the right.

• 1:02:47Speaker 04

  These guys are one oh five?

• 1:02:48Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:02:48Speaker 05

  With MMA gloves on.

• 1:02:49Speaker 01

  Yoshinari on the right, he moves like double speed, like you can't believe how fast he is. This is a hundred and five pound, watch how fast this fucking guy is.

• 1:02:57Speaker 04

  Oh, wow.

• 1:02:57Speaker 01

  Bro, this fight is wild. I watched it last night and I was ready to go to bed and I turned it on YouTube and I was like, holy shit, I gotta watch this whole fight. This is crazy.

• 1:03:05Speaker 04

  Is that where you get your kickboxing in, when you go to sleep?

• 1:03:09Speaker 01

  Always.

• 1:03:09Speaker 04

  It's always when you go to sleep?

• 1:03:10Speaker 01

  Yeah. Kickboxing.

• 1:03:12Speaker 04

  Cause I'm like wondering, like, how the fuck do you know so much?

• 1:03:14Speaker 01

  Kickboxing and professional pool right before I go to bed. I like to watch things that have no consequence on the world. Like this is just fun. But this fucking dude Yoshinari is so fast, dude. So just like so wicked. And he throws this nasty straight left hand to the body. It's so quick, you can, you can barely see it coming. It's weird. Like the both of these guys, the guy Rocky's fighting too is uh this Thailand guy, he's vicious as fuck too. And against anybody else, he would look elite, but this Japanese guy just is lighting him up.

• 1:03:50Speaker 01

  Just the speed that these guys have, they have no gravity. Like look how just the throwing the kick and then checking the kick when the return kick comes.

• 1:03:57Speaker 05

  They're so fast and their technique is so flawless.

• 1:04:00Speaker 04

  He threw that knee like a jab.

• 1:04:01Speaker 01

  Everything's flawless.

• 1:04:02Speaker 05

  Adam weight though, America ain't fucking with this.

• 1:04:04Speaker 01

  I know, it's crazy.

• 1:04:05Speaker 05

  Get the fuck out of my face.

• 1:04:06Speaker 01

  But they would because on TV, look at that straight left to the body and then the front kick behind it. The thing is like on TV, it doesn't matter. You don't know, you just, they're the same size as anyway.

• 1:04:15Speaker 05

  Do you got a point for the takedown?

• 1:04:16Speaker 01

  You just, it just, it's more in Muay Thai it counts, yeah.

• 1:04:19Speaker 05

  But uh, but Demetrius Johnson would have been the most famous guy on the planet then. You know, when he fought in the UFC.

• 1:04:24Speaker 01

  Eh, he should have been, he should have been, when he fought in the UFC.

• 1:04:27Speaker 05

  What's funny is he's more famous now.

• 1:04:28Speaker 04

  It's all about, it's all about the promotion.

• 1:04:30Speaker 01

  Twitch and shit, right?

• 1:04:31Speaker 04

  Yeah, his YouTube show is great, like he's fucking.

• 1:04:34Speaker 01

  Where does he stream? Does he stream on YouTube or somewhere else?

• 1:04:36Speaker 05

  I, I don't know, I don't know. He's, he's podcasting, I think it's called The Mighty Cass.

• 1:04:41Speaker 01

  Bro, look at how fast this fucking guy is. I, I mean, I watched this fight twice last night, I was like, this Yoshinari guy is so fast, like the counters with the kicks. They move faster than hands.

• 1:04:53Speaker 05

  It's like two cats fighting.

• 1:04:54Speaker 01

  It's nuts, man. Like the, the speed of their kicks is just bananas.

• 1:04:59Speaker 05

  I'll tell you this, I wish they were bigger.

• 1:05:01Speaker 04

  Isn't it crazy that, isn't it crazy that like a, a cobra can't strike a cat? There's so many videos, like the cats are too quick.

• 1:05:09Speaker 01

  Cats are so fast.

• 1:05:10Speaker 04

  A cobra can't fuck with a cat.

• 1:05:11Speaker 05

  When you see like a honey badger or a wolverine, where's, where's the fucking snake?

• 1:05:14Speaker 01

  They don't care if the snake bites them, they're like, yeah. They lie there half dead and they come back to life and eat the snake. Yeah, that's a crazy animal.

• 1:05:23Speaker 05

  Aren't they immune to the venom?

• 1:05:24Speaker 01

  Yeah, they recover from it.

• 1:05:26Speaker 05

  Why would God make something like that?

• 1:05:28Speaker 01

  Just the evilest little motherfucker that steals food from lions.

• 1:05:31Speaker 04

  How crazy is it the cats have reptile eyes and they hiss?

• 1:05:35Speaker 01

  That is crazy.

• 1:05:36Speaker 04

  Isn't that crazy? They have reptile eyes and they hiss.

• 1:05:40Speaker 01

  I know.

• 1:05:40Speaker 04

  And they hiss.

• 1:05:42Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 1:05:43Speaker 04

  No other animals go.

• 1:05:45Speaker 04

  That's a, that's what a snake does, and that's what cats do.

• 1:05:48Speaker 05

  Yeah, cats.

• 1:05:49Speaker 04

  Yeah, cats.

• 1:05:50Speaker 05

  Big cats, yeah.

• 1:05:50Speaker 04

  They hiss.

• 1:05:51Speaker 05

  Bro, you need to go to the Austin Zoo.

• 1:05:53Speaker 01

  Have you been there?

• 1:05:54Speaker 05

  I've been. You're about this far away from a fucking tiger. It, it, it's, it's just, it's like a fence, bro. It's, it's not like San Diego where there's a huge glass, eight feet away. Nah, bitch, you can touch the, the fucking tail. My kids were climbing on the bulls and shit. Oh, bro, you're so close, dude.

• 1:06:11Speaker 01

  Yeah, but you can't really.

• 1:06:12Speaker 05

  Someone's for sure gonna get fucked up there, and I'm all for it. It's great.

• 1:06:15Speaker 01

  You can't.

• 1:06:15Speaker 05

  It's the best zoo.

• 1:06:16Speaker 01

  No, you can't. It's more separated than that.

• 1:06:19Speaker 05

  They'll barely though, bubba.

• 1:06:20Speaker 01

  Look how fast these motherfuckers are. This is crazy. I mean, this fight is heated up.

• 1:06:24Speaker 05

  Does it go to decision?

• 1:06:25Speaker 01

  Uh-uh. No. No, Yoshinori stops him.

• 1:06:31Speaker 01

  And it's pretty spectacular when he does it.

• 1:06:35Speaker 01

  So who we got here?

• 1:06:36Speaker 05

  Austin Lane.

• 1:06:38Speaker 01

  Oh, this dude had the craziest fight. Iwo Buranisky, I don't know how to say his right, his name correctly. I, I memorized it last time.

• 1:06:46Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:06:46Speaker 01

  But that dude had the craziest fight in his last outing. Where they, I forget who he's fighting, but they just stood toe to toe in front of each other and just blasted each other. Multiple knockdowns.

• 1:06:56Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:06:56Speaker 01

  Haymakers, and eventually he came out on top, but it was chaos.

• 1:06:59Speaker 05

  Joe, with some of the tough names, do you like memorize it the night before? Do you have an earpiece too?

• 1:07:03Speaker 01

  I have a thing where they say it. So the UFC sends me an email and they say it in their email. So then I, I, I listen to them say it and then I repeat it. And then I have to write it down phonetically. It's the most stressful day is the weigh-ins for me. I'm so stressed out.

• 1:07:17Speaker 05

  You know, I, I had to stop watching him because I was stressed for you. Because I, I struggle with names. I really struggle with like the Russian names and.

• 1:07:23Speaker 01

  Bro, some of them are crazy.

• 1:07:25Speaker 05

  Fuck off.

• 1:07:26Speaker 01

  Some of them are crazy. They had this Mongolian dude the other day. I had to practice his name for 20 minutes. He had the dopest hat too, one of the Genghis Khan hats, like leather on the top, fur. He came out with it on.

• 1:07:36Speaker 05

  It stresses me out.

• 1:07:37Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's. Look, he, this is coming, he's gonna stop this dude soon. The fucking speed this Japanese guy has, man, it's bananas.

• 1:07:47Speaker 05

  Tell that kid you.

• 1:07:48Speaker 01

  And I think this is, he's a Japanese buddy, not Korean. I think this is the first time they had atom weight with men. At least I've never seen it before.

• 1:07:56Speaker 05

  That's a tiny dude, man.

• 1:07:58Speaker 01

  It's a tiny dude. But cuz, look how fucking skillful this cat is.

• 1:08:02Speaker 05

  Well, my, my ten year old's one oh five.

• 1:08:05Speaker 01

  And he throws those, Japanese guys throw those toe kicks to the body. Where they're literally straightening their foot out and they stab you with their big toe in the liver. It's nuts. There's a bunch of these guys, like especially the Kiyokushin karate guys, they practice that.

• 1:08:20Speaker 05

  But if people understood that these guys are more technical and more talented than all the other weights. But the problem is, is your normal, average, like casual viewers, like, oh, I could beat them up. They're tiny. It's like, buddy.

• 1:08:31Speaker 04

  You can't really tell how tiny they are. Like, if you told me that this was one thirty-five, I would believe it. I'd go, that's one thirty-five, you know what I mean?

• 1:08:38Speaker 01

  The end is near. He just rocked that dude with a head kick.

• 1:08:41Speaker 04

  You just gotta make sure the ref is tiny.

• 1:08:42Speaker 01

  Well, they're sending the ref to text him, you can tell.

• 1:08:44Speaker 04

  Yeah, make the ref a midget. And these guys are middle weights.

• 1:08:47Speaker 05

  Bro, that ref is five two.

• 1:08:48Speaker 01

  Barely over the ropes.

• 1:08:51Speaker 04

  Bro. Yeah, you could shoot around that. If it's really an issue and, and, and it makes a difference on, on views.

• 1:08:57Speaker 05

  Just don't have like Big John as the ref.

• 1:08:58Speaker 04

  Yeah, no, no. You gotta have a fucking, you gotta have a midget.

• 1:09:03Speaker 01

  Right. Or Dan Mergliata.

• 1:09:06Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:09:06Speaker 01

  That guy's like, big old gorilla.

• 1:09:08Speaker 04

  Yeah, remove the, the top two ropes. Boom. So they look like giants. Like, damn, those guys are huge.

• 1:09:14Speaker 01

  But you need a big guy with big guys to be able to separate. You need a Mark Goddard. You know, you need a hefty, yeah. You need a big dude that's strong to get guys off each other.

• 1:09:26Speaker 04

  Uh, a one oh five deception. You're right. Like a normal fight.

• 1:09:29Speaker 01

  Look at that. He just hit him with a flying knee in the face. This cat is so fast.

• 1:09:34Speaker 05

  That cat got lives.

• 1:09:35Speaker 01

  So technical too. Like everything, look how slick he is, moving off the line and pulling his head back, moving to the side. Like everything is just so slick.

• 1:09:45Speaker 05

  Isn't it weird how much more technical, the smaller, the like, the lower the weight, the way more.

• 1:09:50Speaker 01

  They don't have any power. They, they gotta catch you like perfect to knock you out. It's not like a heavyweight where it's one shot.

• 1:09:55Speaker 05

  But there's also more competition. So you gotta be really, really good.

• 1:09:59Speaker 01

  It's also just the speed. There, there's no gravity. They weigh a hundred and five pounds.

• 1:10:05Speaker 05

  They're gonna live forever.

• 1:10:06Speaker 01

  Their legs move so quick. Everything moves so quick. Their arms are so small.

• 1:10:12Speaker 05

  But also at that weight, it has to be a perfect shot to inflict damage.

• 1:10:15Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:10:15Speaker 05

  Like a heavyweight clips you with a jab, you're fucked.

• 1:10:18Speaker 01

  Exactly. But it's just how fast these guys can check things.

• 1:10:21Speaker 05

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:10:22Speaker 01

  Like with that left hand to the body he throws, it's nuts.

• 1:10:25Speaker 05

  If they weighed in at 105, they'd probably walk at like 120, right?

• 1:10:29Speaker 01

  110. Who knows? They don't look big.

• 1:10:32Speaker 05

  No.

• 1:10:33Speaker 01

  If you're fighting at 105, it's probably because that's really your weight class.

• 1:10:36Speaker 05

  About 108.

• 1:10:37Speaker 01

  Nobody wants to admit they fight at 105. They want to lie. Cause women are like, "What? You weigh less than me?"

• 1:10:46Speaker 03

  Yoshinari is so fucking technical.

• 1:10:48Speaker 01

  Oh, it's wicked.

• 1:10:49Speaker 03

  Unbelievable.

• 1:10:50Speaker 01

  Look at that knee to the body, there's that straight left. I mean, he's tuning him up. I'm pretty sure this is the round where he stops him. There it is.

• 1:10:58Speaker 05

  With a bull tuck.

• 1:10:59Speaker 03

  Here it comes. Boom.

• 1:11:01Speaker 01

  Look at it, it's throwing it to the body, man. It's just, it's, he's so quick. It's weird when you watch that. It's like, everybody else looks slow now.

• 1:11:09Speaker 05

  And I think One Championship's focusing more on the MMA, I'm sorry, the Muay Thai with MMA gloves too.

• 1:11:14Speaker 01

  They're focused, look at how slick that was.

• 1:11:16Speaker 05

  Is Rack Mexican?

• 1:11:18Speaker 01

  No, he's Thailand.

• 1:11:19Speaker 05

  Oh. Damn, bro.

• 1:11:23Speaker 01

  These, there's a lot of Japanese guys that are dominating now. They're dominating in One FC, in uh, kickboxing especially. This is like the first one that I've seen that's really dominating in, in pure Muay Thai. Oh, shit. Look at that straight left.

• 1:11:40Speaker 05

  Heavyweight's about to fight. Austin Lane played for the Dallas Cowboys, Eddie. What position? D-end. I'm not even Carolina, but I'm pretty sure Dallas. Defensive end. What does he weigh? He's 6'6", 260. So if he's 205, he's probably 230? Well, no, but he used to fight at heavyweight and he was like 260. Okay. He's cut down.

• 1:12:01Speaker 01

  It's interesting, cause we were talking about heavyweight, like that pool is the shallowest pool. Like when, when Francis was going over and they, they said they were gonna do a fight on that card, I was like, who's he gonna fight?

• 1:12:12Speaker 04

  Miles Garrett, imagine that? Miles Garrett fought?

• 1:12:16Speaker 05

  Bro.

• 1:12:17Speaker 04

  290 all muscle.

• 1:12:18Speaker 05

  Yeah, but that's.

• 1:12:19Speaker 04

  His nickname is Jurassic.

• 1:12:21Speaker 01

  Phillip Lenz is good, but it's like, who else?

• 1:12:23Speaker 05

  Phillip Lenz fought at 205, brother.

• 1:12:25Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:12:25Speaker 05

  You know what I'm saying? So it's like.

• 1:12:26Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:12:27Speaker 05

  But, but to MVP's defense, like, who else is there?

• 1:12:29Speaker 01

  Right, that's the question. There's no, like, free agents that are, that you would go, ooh, I want to see that.

• 1:12:34Speaker 05

  That's what makes the UFC, you know, kind of have a stranglehold on the industry is that these long contracts, guys really can't get out. It's very tough to get out.

• 1:12:43Speaker 01

  Well, especially heavyweights.

• 1:12:46Speaker 05

  Like, hey, there's not many.

• 1:12:47Speaker 01

  Talent pool's so small already. And the UFC's locked up all the good ones. How about that one dude that? He won and they cut him loose.

• 1:12:57Speaker 05

  He's so boring.

• 1:12:58Speaker 01

  That's crazy.

• 1:12:59Speaker 04

  Is that the only time it's ever happened?

• 1:13:01Speaker 01

  I don't know.

• 1:13:02Speaker 04

  How do you win and get cut?

• 1:13:03Speaker 05

  It's happened before. Cause you're not entertaining, but you're beating guys.

• 1:13:06Speaker 04

  But I'd never, I mean.

• 1:13:07Speaker 05

  And you got Ty Tua Vazza who's lost like six in a row and they move him up in the rankings? Cause I love Ty, so I hope he gets to number one.

• 1:13:18Speaker 05

  But hea- heavyweight's a shit.

• 1:13:19Speaker 04

  Oh, shit.

• 1:13:20Speaker 05

  Oh, that's bad.

• 1:13:21Speaker 04

  Damn.

• 1:13:23Speaker 01

  There goes the Dallas Cowboys.

• 1:13:26Speaker 01

  As usual.

• 1:13:26Speaker 05

  Yeah, as usual.

• 1:13:27Speaker 01

  That dude's a fucking tank, man.

• 1:13:29Speaker 05

  Yeah, he's a problem.

• 1:13:30Speaker 04

  Damn.

• 1:13:30Speaker 05

  MVP's up next.

• 1:13:31Speaker 04

  Is that guy Russian or something? What is he? Was his name Iwo? That was Iwo?

• 1:13:36Speaker 01

  I think he's from Poland. Is he Polish? Baranowski.

• 1:13:41Speaker 05

  But to your point, Joe, that the heavyweight division is.

• 1:13:43Speaker 01

  Poland?

• 1:13:44Speaker 05

  The heavyweight division is, and it's the worst it's ever been.

• 1:13:47Speaker 01

  It's, it's weird because you got Gabe Stevenson, who's not in the UFC yet. He's the guy that's the most interesting.

• 1:13:54Speaker 05

  Dude.

• 1:13:55Speaker 01

  And he's not even in the UFC.

• 1:13:56Speaker 05

  Someone got me, must've been, you know, how there's MMA sites that leak shit and who knows if it's true? They're like, Gabe Stevenson versus JDS on the MVP card. I'm like, bro, take my fucking money. I was crunk for it. And then I was doing all my shows. Crazy. You could see it happening.

• 1:14:13Speaker 01

  Here it is. Boom, over the top.

• 1:14:16Speaker 05

  Looks worse because it's dreads.

• 1:14:17Speaker 02

  I saw something that said Mighty Mouse was on it, but that's obviously not true.

• 1:14:20Speaker 01

  No, Mighty Mouse, he's, he's. Flatly said he's retired.

• 1:14:24Speaker 04

  What's, what's the worst case scenario in a fight? You get knocked the fuck out, you get flatlined, and they gotta take you out in a stretcher. Right? That'd be the worst. There's nothing worse than that, right?

• 1:14:33Speaker 05

  That sucks.

• 1:14:34Speaker 04

  That's the worst?

• 1:14:34Speaker 05

  That sucks.

• 1:14:35Speaker 01

  Other than a broken leg.

• 1:14:36Speaker 04

  Do you remember?

• 1:14:36Speaker 01

  Thing is like, if you get knocked the fuck out and taken on a stretcher, you might be okay in a few months.

• 1:14:40Speaker 05

  Six months, you get fired.

• 1:14:41Speaker 01

  If you get your leg snapped.

• 1:14:43Speaker 04

  Visually, visually, visually, it's bad, right?

• 1:14:45Speaker 05

  I think for your ego getting knocked out.

• 1:14:47Speaker 04

  So, do you guys remember when K1 was in Los Angeles in 2005? That was when, uh, Hoist fought Sakuraba the second time and beat him. People forget about that. Hoist beat Sakuraba. He beat him from fucking on his back Sakuraba's stand. He was throwing side kicks to Sakuraba's knee off his butt. It was crazy. But also on that card, there was a football player. He played for the, he was a wide receiver.

• 1:15:10Speaker 05

  Johnny Morton.

• 1:15:11Speaker 04

  Johnny Morton, for the, he was a wide receiver for the Detroit Lions. He goes out and he fights a, a black dude who is, lives in Japan and is a comedian. But he's a kickboxer too. I forget his name. Black dude, Japanese guy.

• 1:15:25Speaker 01

  Yeah, there it is.

• 1:15:26Speaker 04

  And dude, look, dude, he, he, he gets put in a stretcher. Johnny Morton. So, a- after this, after this.

• 1:15:33Speaker 05

  He only had one fight.

• 1:15:34Speaker 04

  No football players. All the football players were training for MMA. They were gonna do MMA and dominate. That, that's why, that's why they, they, they're not fighting.

• 1:15:42Speaker 01

  Well, it's just crazy to step all the way up to a guy who's a pro kickboxer.

• 1:15:46Speaker 04

  They don't show the stretcher shit.

• 1:15:48Speaker 05

  Yeah, Johnny Morton got fucked up.

• 1:15:49Speaker 01

  That was K1 Dynamite. We were there, uh, drinking next to Charles, uh.

• 1:15:54Speaker 04

  Crazy Horse Bennett.

• 1:15:55Speaker 01

  Crazy Horse Bennett. That's right.

• 1:15:56Speaker 04

  Dude, that's the worst possible scenario. You get taken out in a stretcher with a neck brace.

• 1:16:02Speaker 01

  Brock Lesnar's first MMA fight.

• 1:16:04Speaker 04

  That's right.

• 1:16:05Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:16:06Speaker 01

  It was outdoor in SoCal. Yep.

• 1:16:08Speaker 04

  That's right.

• 1:16:09Speaker 02

  Oh my god, watch that move the guy makes. Watch him jerk his neck. Right? Yer.

• 1:16:14Speaker 04

  Oh damn!

• 1:16:15Speaker 01

  Jesus Christ, bro.

• 1:16:16Speaker 02

  His neck was broken. It's fucked up.

• 1:16:17Speaker 04

  He's like, dude, I don't need to be taken out in a stretcher. He's like, dude, that's all NFL players, dude. That's when they dipped out. When they saw that shit.

• 1:16:26Speaker 03

  And that's the fight when your mother goes, your grandmother goes, your girlfriend goes.

• 1:16:31Speaker 04

  He was an awesome NFL wide receiver. Johnny Morton?

• 1:16:34Speaker 05

  He was a stud at USC.

• 1:16:35Speaker 04

  He was awesome.

• 1:16:37Speaker 05

  He's from there, bro. So, he got knocked out in front of everybody. All his homies.

• 1:16:40Speaker 04

  Worst case scenario.

• 1:16:41Speaker 05

  There's a bunch of football players after that, though.

• 1:16:43Speaker 01

  What, Jamie?

• 1:16:43Speaker 02

  Outside at the Coliseum?

• 1:16:45Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:16:45Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:16:45Speaker 04

  It's outdoor.

• 1:16:46Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:16:47Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:16:48Speaker 01

  Cause you also had Michael Westbrook, remember him? Black belt?

• 1:16:53Speaker 01

  Remember Michael Westbrook?

• 1:16:53Speaker 05

  Yes, yes, yes, that's right. He, he, Washington Redskins.

• 1:16:56Speaker 01

  Yep. Played at University of Colorado, caught the, the Michigan Hail Mary.

• 1:17:00Speaker 05

  Oh shit.

• 1:17:01Speaker 01

  Where did he fight? He fought, bring that up Jamie, he, he, he had some straight up MMA fights. He was so fucking athletic.

• 1:17:10Speaker 05

  Another fight that came up at the gym was fucking Brock Lesnar versus Alistair Overeem when he was eating horse meat.

• 1:17:15Speaker 01

  Oh yeah.

• 1:17:16Speaker 05

  Whoa.

• 1:17:17Speaker 01

  You know that fight? That was the juiciest fight in history.

• 1:17:20Speaker 05

  You know it was brutal.

• 1:17:21Speaker 01

  I forgot it, fuck.

• 1:17:22Speaker 05

  Fuck, what were you gonna say?

• 1:17:23Speaker 01

  I forgot.

• 1:17:24Speaker 05

  Football?

• 1:17:25Speaker 01

  I forgot.

• 1:17:26Speaker 05

  Ah, football.

• 1:17:29Speaker 01

  Oh, Herschel Walker.

• 1:17:30Speaker 05

  Oh yes.

• 1:17:31Speaker 01

  People forgot about Herschel.

• 1:17:32Speaker 05

  That's right, he did good.

• 1:17:34Speaker 01

  He was doing good in Strikeforce, he was in his forties.

• 1:17:35Speaker 05

  Yeah, he was, he was stiff.

• 1:17:38Speaker 01

  Forty's he was fucking people up.

• 1:17:40Speaker 05

  King of the cage, that's right.

• 1:17:41Speaker 01

  Michael Westbrook, king of the cage.

• 1:17:43Speaker 05

  When did Michael Westbrook, did he play in Colorado?

• 1:17:45Speaker 01

  Jamie, find me some Herschel Walker MMA highlights.

• 1:17:49Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:17:50Speaker 01

  Herschel Walker MMA highlights, when he fought for Strikeforce.

• 1:17:53Speaker 05

  Yep, he was stiff as fuck, but he was a problem.

• 1:17:56Speaker 01

  In his forties, fucking people up dude. He looked real good and fucking scary.

• 1:18:03Speaker 01

  And he fought guys that knew how to fight, he fought real guys. I mean, they weren't top guys.

• 1:18:07Speaker 05

  He traded out AK, remember?

• 1:18:08Speaker 01

  They were real guys. Didn't he run for, uh, political office? Yeah, later. Yeah, he's forty-eight here.

• 1:18:14Speaker 05

  That's wild.

• 1:18:16Speaker 01

  Wild.

• 1:18:17Speaker 05

  They say he's like the biggest freak of all time.

• 1:18:19Speaker 01

  Oh, athletic freak, yeah, for sure.

• 1:18:20Speaker 05

  Was he one of the guys that said he didn't lift weights and shit? I think he did a thousand pushups a day and a thousand situps. A thousand pushups, a thousand situps and a thousand squats.

• 1:18:28Speaker 01

  He said crazy things, like he only eats a bowl of soup and a salad.

• 1:18:31Speaker 05

  Yeah, I don't know, man.

• 1:18:32Speaker 01

  Yeah, he said crazy things. Where people were like, wait, one day you do that? The other day you ate a whole cow?

• 1:18:39Speaker 05

  Just cat and a crutch.

• 1:18:39Speaker 01

  That doesn't make any sense, man, you're so jacked. There's no way you're supporting that with a salad and a bowl of soup.

• 1:18:45Speaker 05

  No. Dude, he's fucking that dude.

• 1:18:47Speaker 01

  But he also had, um, I wanna say it was trauma-based personality disorder? Like multiple personality disorder?

• 1:18:55Speaker 05

  No way.

• 1:18:55Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:18:56Speaker 05

  Yeah, handful.

• 1:18:57Speaker 01

  Yeah, dude, he, he was, uh, look at the size of him, look how jacked he is at forty-eight, just shredded.

• 1:19:05Speaker 01

  The fights were good too, like he's skillful. I mean, he was definitely like super duper strong and that was a big part of it. Look at that. Look how jacked he is, son. Look at him. That's crazy. Forty-eight, that's nuts. That's nuts.

• 1:19:17Speaker 03

  You have to go to his game, like watch it. When he kept jumping over the score in the national championship game.

• 1:19:26Speaker 04

  Herschel Walker?

• 1:19:27Speaker 03

  Herschel Walker kept.

• 1:19:28Speaker 04

  When he played for Georgia?

• 1:19:29Speaker 03

  When he played for Georgia. Oh my god. That shit he used to do.

• 1:19:33Speaker 04

  Dude, do you remember, he went to the, you remember the USFL? He went to the USFL. Same to like Jim Kelly too. And Steve Young. They all went to the USFL. When I thought I was gonna be a football player, I'm like, you know, twelve years old, they go, "Where are you gonna go, NFL or the USFL?" I'm like, "Whoever pays me the most money." You know, I go where the bags at, dog. Dude, I really thought I was gonna play football.

• 1:19:58Speaker 01

  That's funny.

• 1:19:58Speaker 04

  I had no idea.

• 1:19:59Speaker 01

  It's just like, imagine how much we're talking about Yoel Romero's physique. And Yoel Romero don't even look as good as Herschel.

• 1:20:06Speaker 04

  Yeah, true. But Yoel was a better fighter.

• 1:20:08Speaker 01

  Oh, beyond.

• 1:20:08Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:20:09Speaker 01

  He's still playing, right?

• 1:20:10Speaker 04

  Not even close. I would say Herschel and, uh...

• 1:20:13Speaker 01

  So shredded.

• 1:20:14Speaker 04

  I would say they had very similar bodies.

• 1:20:16Speaker 01

  No, Herschel's more shredded. Herschel's more shredded. Yeah, well Yoel looks super impressive at forty-eight.

• 1:20:22Speaker 04

  Yoel's back.

• 1:20:22Speaker 01

  But Yoel's like, he's, he's bigger. He's got more body fat on him. You know, he's like, he's bigger. He's like, he's, he's fighting heavyweight now, so he, you know.

• 1:20:30Speaker 04

  He's probably in some...

• 1:20:31Speaker 01

  Remember how big he was that one time we did a podcast with him? He was, he was still fighting in one eighty, but look at that. Look at that Herschel Walker.

• 1:20:37Speaker 04

  Okay, alright, alright, alright.

• 1:20:38Speaker 01

  That's at forty-eight.

• 1:20:39Speaker 04

  But go to Yoel though, too.

• 1:20:41Speaker 01

  Kind of bananas.

• 1:20:42Speaker 04

  Damn, those traps are...

• 1:20:42Speaker 01

  Kind of bananas.

• 1:20:43Speaker 04

  That's football traps.

• 1:20:44Speaker 03

  Football traps.

• 1:20:45Speaker 01

  But the thing about Yoel is Yoel's not cutting any weight anymore. You know, when he was fighting one eighty-five, he was pretty shredded.

• 1:20:51Speaker 04

  You wanted to knock people's socks off, I do Darren Till, Yoel Romero. Take my fucking money, dude. I already have a subscription, you know what I'm saying?

• 1:20:59Speaker 01

  But I don't, I don't think Darren's doing any MMA anymore. I think it's just boxing. You know, he looked really good against Luke Rockhold and I think his knees fuck with him. You know, he had some real bad knee problems.

• 1:21:09Speaker 05

  That's why he left to get on some peptide, some other shit and cure that knee.

• 1:21:13Speaker 01

  Doesn't really cure it that well. It depends on how much you got.

• 1:21:16Speaker 05

  You got some stem cells. That's where he got some stem cells.

• 1:21:18Speaker 01

  Yeah, but if, once you have meniscus problems, you've got no cushioning in there and you get arthritis.

• 1:21:23Speaker 05

  Brother, I saw, I've had a twin meniscus for, since the ultimate fighter. And, uh, I could, you know, I like to run long distance. And I was telling Brigham about it and he's like, dude, tell him to see what these stem cells do. I can run all day now.

• 1:21:36Speaker 01

  I'm sure. I believe you. But the thing is like, once the cartilage is gone, you're like, Kamara Loosman territory. There's not a whole lot they can do.

• 1:21:44Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:21:45Speaker 01

  It's always gonna hurt.

• 1:21:45Speaker 05

  I'm hearing that, uh, it's, stem cells are regrown cartilage too. That's the latest shit.

• 1:21:51Speaker 01

  Yeah, I've seen that too. That's like new studies. The, the, I don't think they've applied to humans yet, but they're gonna be able to do that. And they're also gonna be able to, there's a new, uh, treatment for disc degenerative disc disease.

• 1:22:01Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:22:01Speaker 01

  Where they're spreading the discs out, making them larger again.

• 1:22:04Speaker 05

  Stem cells are wild.

• 1:22:05Speaker 03

  I've been telling Joe for the last two days, he don't know what I'm talking about. And I told Brigham. Last year, that kid from the Boston Celtics ripped his leg apart during the playoffs. What's his name?

• 1:22:16Speaker 02

  Jason Tatum. He came back in 248 days or something like that.

• 1:22:18Speaker 03

  Don't put that in your fucking pipe and smoke it. What did he rip, Jamie?

• 1:22:22Speaker 02

  Uh, Achilles, I think.

• 1:22:24Speaker 03

  Achilles or something in his knee. The other guy's still out. This motherfucker came back in the first game. He slam dunked it. And I'm like, I just watched it to see. I thought he was gonna buckle and shit.

• 1:22:35Speaker 01

  248 days is a good amount of time.

• 1:22:36Speaker 02

  298.

• 1:22:37Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's, 298 is, that's a good amount of time.

• 1:22:39Speaker 05

  Yeah, it's almost a year.

• 1:22:40Speaker 01

  Yeah, that gives you plenty of time to get rehabilitated and build your strength back up.

• 1:22:45Speaker 02

  Starting NBA though.

• 1:22:46Speaker 01

  Amazing. Look, it's amazing.

• 1:22:48Speaker 05

  Cause how long was Kobe out?

• 1:22:49Speaker 02

  Not longer, I think.

• 1:22:51Speaker 05

  I know, but you're talking about. Remember Aaron Rodgers, when he tore his Achilles, he came back real quick.

• 1:22:55Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's.

• 1:22:55Speaker 05

  Yeah, Aaron Rodgers did. That's the number.

• 1:22:57Speaker 01

  Bro, Aaron Rodgers was working with Brigham.

• 1:22:59Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:23:00Speaker 01

  They're working with Wastewell.

• 1:23:01Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 1:23:03Speaker 01

  That's part of the reason why I came back so quick was stem cells.

• 1:23:05Speaker 04

  Correct.

• 1:23:06Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah. What they got out now, like for that injury, I knew something is, you know, when I was a kid, if you ripped your Achilles.

• 1:23:14Speaker 04

  You're out.

• 1:23:14Speaker 03

  That's a year.

• 1:23:15Speaker 04

  Yeah, you're out.

• 1:23:16Speaker 03

  Before, and this guy, I'm not, you're not getting to what I said. It's two hundred and forty-nine days or whatever the fuck it was. Twenty ninety-eight days, but that's just to do shit. Never mind playing an NBA game and dunking a fucking basketball.

• 1:23:30Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:23:30Speaker 04

  Football, you need a little more time.

• 1:23:32Speaker 03

  Football, I paid attention to that guy and I came in here a year ago and I told you, I went to a Celtic game and the strength that Jason Tatum had.

• 1:23:40Speaker 04

  Oh, he's a beast.

• 1:23:41Speaker 03

  Is not the strength that basketball players when I played had. They're training different things. It's a whole new world out there. They're lightning when they go in the paint. Have you seen that fucking seven foot guy shooting jumpers?

• 1:23:51Speaker 04

  For San Antonio?

• 1:23:52Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:23:53Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah. No, oh, yeah, that, that, uh, Asian guy. Yeah. No, no, no, no, no, he's like French, French black. Yeah, it's French, yeah. I don't follow basketball too much, but I know that guy. I know that guy.

• 1:24:04Speaker 03

  But I follow, you know, when somebody gets injured.

• 1:24:07Speaker 01

  Yup. Adesanya and Joe Pfeifer, very interested in that. That's a scary fight.

• 1:24:11Speaker 04

  I would have put that on the White House.

• 1:24:13Speaker 01

  Right?

• 1:24:14Speaker 03

  Listen, I have a friend that.

• 1:24:15Speaker 01

  Right? That would be crazy.

• 1:24:17Speaker 03

  I had a friend that did crack.

• 1:24:19Speaker 01

  What?

• 1:24:19Speaker 03

  Four fucking years. No teeth, he's driving a cab. He got that rectal cancer. What is that?

• 1:24:25Speaker 04

  Rectal?

• 1:24:26Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, that one.

• 1:24:26Speaker 03

  Colon, uh.

• 1:24:27Speaker 01

  Colon cancer?

• 1:24:28Speaker 03

  Colon cancer.

• 1:24:29Speaker 04

  Rectal.

• 1:24:30Speaker 03

  Three treatments, guys.

• 1:24:31Speaker 04

  Of stems?

• 1:24:32Speaker 03

  No, in your head.

• 1:24:33Speaker 01

  What'd he get?

• 1:24:35Speaker 04

  Three treatments of what?

• 1:24:36Speaker 01

  Something?

• 1:24:37Speaker 03

  They just.

• 1:24:37Speaker 01

  He's good to go?

• 1:24:38Speaker 03

  Good to go. He's back smoking crack, driving a cab.

• 1:24:42Speaker 04

  Good for him. My, my stem cell spot in Tijuana, uh, CPI, they're working on, uh, using stem cells to cure cancer. They're doing some crazy shit out there. Yeah, CPI, CPI is doing some shit that you can't do in the United States legally. That's why they're in Mexico. You know, if they, if they could do what they're doing in the United States, there would be a CPI in every major city.

• 1:25:04Speaker 03

  Well, let me tell you something, a big thing hasn't come up.

• 1:25:07Speaker 04

  And there should be.

• 1:25:08Speaker 03

  We were talking about this yesterday, like right now peptides are an all time high, they're great, people paying attention to them. People reading about them, but there's so many different peptides. Now, I'm sixty-three fucking years old. And last time I went to Brigham, I went on that computer with the AI.

• 1:25:22Speaker 04

  Oh, the alien?

• 1:25:22Speaker 03

  I told the fucking guy, I go, listen. I'm sixty three, I'm gonna make my dick bigger and stronger than it's ever been.

• 1:25:27Speaker 01

  Dick stems. Dick stems.

• 1:25:29Speaker 03

  So he goes, you know, the grandfather of that is testosterone and then there's peptides you could use. So I went back and I ordered one of the peptides. We cooking?

• 1:25:41Speaker 03

  Not bueno, guys.

• 1:25:42Speaker 01

  No?

• 1:25:43Speaker 03

  Too hard, too hard. This PT one forty one doesn't affect blood.

• 1:25:47Speaker 01

  PT one forty one, what is that?

• 1:25:48Speaker 03

  That's a peptide.

• 1:25:49Speaker 01

  For your dick?

• 1:25:50Speaker 03

  For blood flow. For blood flow, it's been in existence since nineteen seventy. For women and guys, but this is how crazy, it's been around since nineteen seventy. So why are you giving me Viagra? Why are you giving me fucking Viagra? If you know this is fucking better for you. Gentlemen.

• 1:26:08Speaker 01

  Well, it says it's for desire. Put that back up.

• 1:26:11Speaker 03

  It says.

• 1:26:12Speaker 01

  It says it's uh, choose to treat generalized hypoactive sexual desire disorder. In pre-menopausal women. And off-label for erectile dysfunction in men.

• 1:26:24Speaker 03

  It didn't work for you, Julian?

• 1:26:26Speaker 01

  Seventy two hours. Listen, unlike ED pills that target blood flow, PT one forty one acts on the central nervous system to increase sexual desire.

• 1:26:35Speaker 03

  Dude, we gotta get that. Yeah, I wanted to fuck a midget that night. But no, it didn't work out.

• 1:26:39Speaker 01

  Did it work out for you?

• 1:26:41Speaker 03

  PT one forty one? Let me just break it down for you.

• 1:26:44Speaker 01

  Please do.

• 1:26:45Speaker 03

  Like, I, I was always getting Viagra and one of you guys said it's for the heart, it used to be a heart medication, then it became a dick medication. It was a low blood pressure. Something like that, and that's why I took it. I took it the first time, it's okay. It's okay, this shit I just wanted to take on principle. I had.

• 1:27:00Speaker 01

  Where do you get it?

• 1:27:02Speaker 03

  Peptide store. You order it online, even fucking waste the oil again for you.

• 1:27:07Speaker 01

  Straight from China, dog.

• 1:27:08Speaker 03

  Dog, but listen. It's liquid Viagra. The desire that you have is like, how it causes, because I did it, I was like, what the fuck is this? So the, you shoot it at seven.

• 1:27:18Speaker 01

  In your dick?

• 1:27:19Speaker 03

  No, you shoot it in your arm.

• 1:27:20Speaker 01

  Okay, at seven.

• 1:27:21Speaker 03

  Or in your stomach.

• 1:27:22Speaker 01

  So you have to tell your wife, like, hey, hang on.

• 1:27:25Speaker 03

  You don't say shit.

• 1:27:26Speaker 01

  Don't tell nobody?

• 1:27:26Speaker 03

  You don't tell nobody.

• 1:27:27Speaker 01

  Nobody.

• 1:27:29Speaker 03

  You're at home, the kids are out, you just blast it in your stomach.

• 1:27:32Speaker 01

  And you wait.

• 1:27:32Speaker 03

  Give it three hours. Three hours?

• 1:27:35Speaker 01

  Wait for it to kick in.

• 1:27:35Speaker 03

  That's a long time.

• 1:27:36Speaker 01

  How long does it last?

• 1:27:37Speaker 03

  Seventy two.

• 1:27:39Speaker 01

  Seventy two hours?

• 1:27:40Speaker 03

  So the weight is working. Because what happens is.

• 1:27:45Speaker 03

  Don't worry about the fucking weight. So it's a horny peptide? You're walking into three days of, and let me tell you what, so people, I'm older. So the first night, yeah, I got a little bit of a hard on, I looked at my wife, I'm like, no, it's too late. It's too late.

• 1:28:02Speaker 03

  Yeah, it was like eleven thirty, she ain't in for that shit. She's watching limey TV and shit.

• 1:28:09Speaker 03

  Now, I haven't given my wife a stab in the morning since I turned fifty. Says it's a navel spray. Yeah, they got a nasal one too. Intranasal, it'll go right in there. The response to the peptide is rapid, eliciting a penile reaction within minutes. I told you though, that's the, I never sprayed it, but now that I know, let's get the spray on top. I want, so the first night, yeah, it was okay, I didn't whack off or nothing. The next morning, I got up and I couldn't pee. Cause that motherfucker was out and about, he was like a marine going to Iran. This motherfucker was out there. I couldn't even pee and I, and I remember dipping my head and I go, honey, don't go downstairs yet. She's like, why? I gotta drink coffee. No, no, I wanna get you off surprise.

• 1:28:52Speaker 03

  Because I stopped giving the stabbings after fifty, cause I don't like stabbings at night, I like them in the morning. Yeah. That's the best action, the monkeys permeate your whole fucking thing, you're awake. Boogers in your eyes, you don't care. You just eat monkey and fucking, dust is going all over the place, but fuck it.

• 1:29:08Speaker 03

  Dog, I stopped because when you turn over fifty, they said that the best time to get a heart attack is between six in the morning and twelve at lunch. So I used to always give my wife like a stab in the morning and I, I felt a little weird, so I said, fuck it, I'll cut it down and just eat a monkey in the morning. But that felt a little weird. So I said, fuck it, I cut out sex in the morning. Cause you're worried about getting a heart attack. Yeah, but then I'm, but I'm at fucking, I'm at fucking jujitsu at nine, getting beat up by twenty year olds. I'm like, what's the difference? What's the difference? I'm doing hip escapes, I'm fucking dying here. So I said, fuck it, let me start giving her a stab in the morning and, but I did it after the PT one forty one. So usually give your wife or your lover a stab and, and your dick is like kinda weird for a little while. This motherfucker was up at attention by the time I was eating yogurt.

• 1:29:53Speaker 03

  I went to breakfast, I was looking at my dick again.

• 1:29:56Speaker 01

  It's ready to go.

• 1:29:57Speaker 03

  And then I went out and all day long it stays half cocked.

• 1:30:02Speaker 01

  Well, yeah, like.

• 1:30:03Speaker 03

  Three quarters hard, like it's just ready to wind blow on it, dog.

• 1:30:08Speaker 01

  Here goes Michael.

• 1:30:09Speaker 05

  Come on MVP.

• 1:30:10Speaker 03

  So yeah, it's about forty eight hours of fucking nothing but dick, dick, dick.

• 1:30:15Speaker 05

  There needs to be a cartoon of that story.

• 1:30:17Speaker 01

  Sucks if he's not in the mention at one seventy for the title either. And this fight doesn't really get him there.

• 1:30:23Speaker 05

  This does nothing for him.

• 1:30:24Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:30:24Speaker 05

  So let's say he does some amazing knockout, okay, guys, the guys on ranked.

• 1:30:29Speaker 01

  The only person who beat him is Ian Gary, right?

• 1:30:31Speaker 05

  Correct, by decision.

• 1:30:32Speaker 01

  And Jared Cannonier got on top of him at the end, but he was lighting Jared up.

• 1:30:35Speaker 05

  But I think that's why the UFC brass, you'll go a little south on him because he's had a bunch of decisions since he got to the UFC. And then the Kevin Holland fight was supposed to be fun, it wasn't. And then he fights Jared Cannonier and he's lighting him up, but he's messing around. And Dana was like, buddy, you got the guy hurt, let's, let's go here. And he kept messing around, they got taken down, Jared Cannonier is tough. So I think, think since then, the UFC's got a little south on him.

• 1:31:01Speaker 03

  He had dreads, he looked like Milli Vanilli, right?

• 1:31:03Speaker 01

  That motherfucker is a fun dude.

• 1:31:05Speaker 05

  Bad. People forgot about Milli Vanilli.

• 1:31:07Speaker 03

  Have you had him in here, Joe?

• 1:31:08Speaker 01

  Documentary. Yeah, he was a great guest.

• 1:31:09Speaker 05

  People forgot about him.

• 1:31:10Speaker 01

  He was a great guest, he's really fun, really smart guy.

• 1:31:13Speaker 05

  Smart guy.

• 1:31:13Speaker 01

  And, you know, I always said for the longest time, that's the next thing that's gonna emerge in MMA. Cause those guys, I remember from my competition days, when you would enter into those karate tournaments, those guys that were really good at that, it was a totally different game.

• 1:31:28Speaker 05

  You can't hit them.

• 1:31:28Speaker 01

  Like even being in Taekwondo and you, but you're used to like continuous action.

• 1:31:32Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:31:32Speaker 01

  These guys that know how to just like get that first shot off and, and get out of the way quick. They were a problem. It's like, that's a very specific skill set. And if you could teach that skill set and then learn all the other stuff, you have that thing always. So the first strike, they have a giant advantage.

• 1:31:49Speaker 05

  Giant advantage.

• 1:31:50Speaker 01

  They could do stuff that you don't anticipate. Cause they can catch you from a distance where you can't close the distance, but he can easy.

• 1:31:56Speaker 05

  You should learn that first, right? You should like, if you were trying to create the ultimate MMA fighter in the, as a.

• 1:32:03Speaker 04

  You throw him into Taekwondo and wrestling.

• 1:32:06Speaker 01

  First wrestling.

• 1:32:07Speaker 05

  Wrestling number one.

• 1:32:09Speaker 04

  You gotta get him on the spinny kicks because you can't learn them later.

• 1:32:12Speaker 01

  Yeah, but you can learn those from karate too. I feel like more karate guys have done way better, like point karate guys.

• 1:32:21Speaker 01

  Yeah, but you, th- those guys know wheel kicks. Like it's not a kick that's like an elusive kick that no one knows how to throw.

• 1:32:27Speaker 04

  No, but very, it's, they're very rarely thrown.

• 1:32:30Speaker 01

  It's true, but, but I think that the skill of being able to blitz is even better. Cause they could do all the stuff that Taekwondo, the good ones like Raymond Daniels. They do all the stuff that Taekwondo guys do, but they have that additional ability to cover distance.

• 1:32:44Speaker 01

  Not really. A little, but not like point karate. Point karate is the number one skill for covering distance with like a blitz.

• 1:32:52Speaker 04

  It's like fencing.

• 1:32:53Speaker 01

  Yeah, man.

• 1:32:54Speaker 04

  Was into fencing because of that.

• 1:32:56Speaker 01

  Do those guys, like when, when I used to go to those tournaments and watch like, you know, everybody makes fun of Billy Blanks. Billy Blanks back in the day was a wicked point fighter, a wicked point fighter, world champion point fighter. Yeah, he was good dude. And he was super jacked and athletic and he was like really good at covering distance. They would just catch each other with back fists and punches from so far away and throw wild kicks from so far away.

• 1:33:22Speaker 04

  Damn, I didn't know he was thirty eight. Holy shit. He looks like he's twenty eight.

• 1:33:25Speaker 01

  He's in great shape.

• 1:33:28Speaker 02

  Talking about Bobby Orr the other day, when you saw him with like his knee surgeries. He's thirty eight.

• 1:33:32Speaker 04

  What? Really?

• 1:33:34Speaker 01

  Say Bobby Orr?

• 1:33:35Speaker 04

  Oh my god.

• 1:33:36Speaker 02

  I was gonna tell you.

• 1:33:36Speaker 01

  So when I was nineteen, he was thirty eight?

• 1:33:38Speaker 04

  Oh my god, he couldn't even walk.

• 1:33:40Speaker 02

  Yeah, retired by forty and like done.

• 1:33:44Speaker 02

  I think maybe even retired at thirty or something, it was saying.

• 1:33:46Speaker 01

  He was retired back then. I know he was retired.

• 1:33:48Speaker 05

  You know, Mike Van Page doing a bunch of other shit too, like he has a restaurant, he has a restaurant in London, he owns a restaurant. He's a bunch, he's. I don't think so.

• 1:33:57Speaker 01

  He doesn't?

• 1:33:57Speaker 05

  I don't think, he's in movies.

• 1:33:59Speaker 01

  He should be.

• 1:34:00Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:34:01Speaker 01

  He's such an entertaining and fun guy.

• 1:34:04Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:34:04Speaker 01

  And a really nice guy too, like super nice guy. He's like, there, here it is. So this is Billy Blanks in the early karate fights. Billy Blanks is on the right.

• 1:34:14Speaker 04

  They could punch the face.

• 1:34:15Speaker 01

  They could knows, it depends on which tournament, you're supposed to like pull your punches in some of them. So this was the early days before they even wore the pads. But those guys eventually started wearing those foam boots on and you know. So this is like real early, this looks like the seventies or something.

• 1:34:30Speaker 02

  This shit is old school.

• 1:34:31Speaker 01

  Does it say what year this is?

• 1:34:33Speaker 02

  This is like a whole like long documentary.

• 1:34:35Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 1:34:37Speaker 05

  Eddie, back to you.

• 1:34:38Speaker 01

  If I'm more modern ones.

• 1:34:39Speaker 05

  Back to your mysterious death.

• 1:34:41Speaker 01

  Here it is, like there, like here it is, these, these ones. So these ones are some of the, the bigger karate tournaments, they had a lot of these. And these guys would fight like this.

• 1:34:50Speaker 04

  He's got a little cape on.

• 1:34:51Speaker 01

  They had weird outfits, they all, they all got very flamboyant. Oh, here we go, MVP fight starting right now, let's go.

• 1:34:58Speaker 04

  Oh shit.

• 1:34:59Speaker 05

  I'm rooting for him, man.

• 1:35:02Speaker 04

  Who's the white guy?

• 1:35:04Speaker 05

  He's his training partner, but he's had four finishes in a row, yeah, this is his training partner.

• 1:35:07Speaker 04

  And he's better on the ground and he?

• 1:35:09Speaker 05

  He's really good at darsas and anacondas. And so in training, they said he would get him on MVP.

• 1:35:14Speaker 01

  And he was at one fifty-five for a while, right? Which is crazy, look how tall he is.

• 1:35:21Speaker 01

  These guys kill themselves, man. The weight cutting in MMA is just so nutty. If they had an atom weight, Yoel Romero would try to make it, you know, someone, someone crazy. Someone crazy would try to make atom weight, not Yoel, but you know what I'm saying, like someone who just cuts crazy weight.

• 1:35:37Speaker 05

  What's weird is even though they've trained together, I doubt Michael Venom Page moves exactly like this in training.

• 1:35:43Speaker 01

  Right, he doesn't try to really fuck you up.

• 1:35:45Speaker 05

  He's showboats, he does his thing. He's such an entertainer, man.

• 1:35:49Speaker 01

  But it does help a lot if you've already sparred with this guy.

• 1:35:52Speaker 05

  Huge advantage.

• 1:35:53Speaker 04

  Now, is it possible that there'd be a, a Michael Venom Page versus Israel DeSanya?

• 1:35:59Speaker 01

  It's possible, sure.

• 1:36:01Speaker 04

  The same weight category?

• 1:36:02Speaker 05

  Yeah, he, he'll, cause he'll, he'll fight at one seventy and eighty-five.

• 1:36:05Speaker 01

  Yeah, he fought Cannon in the area, eighty-five.

• 1:36:07Speaker 04

  They would fight each other, they're not buddies?

• 1:36:09Speaker 05

  They're buddies.

• 1:36:09Speaker 04

  Oh, they're buddies?

• 1:36:10Speaker 05

  They're buddies, but so are these guys, UFC don't give a fuck. That would be crazy dude.

• 1:36:16Speaker 01

  Yeah, it would be a great.

• 1:36:17Speaker 05

  Izzy and this motherfucker?

• 1:36:19Speaker 01

  But Izzy Joe Piper's crazy.

• 1:36:21Speaker 05

  That's a crazy.

• 1:36:23Speaker 01

  Joe Piper's fucking terrifying.

• 1:36:24Speaker 05

  Cause they're basically like, super similar, right?

• 1:36:27Speaker 01

  Yeah, Joe Joe Piper hits you like he's trying to kill you. Like he's trying to, he's trying to kill you. It's very different.

• 1:36:34Speaker 05

  Like every shot's head hunting. He just needs to mix it up more. Especially against a guy like Izzy. Like Izzy can smell a huge overhand.

• 1:36:41Speaker 01

  He was going for the big shots in the Kelvin Gastelum fight, right? Cause he had him really badly hurt in that first round. But damn dude, when that guy hits people.

• 1:36:50Speaker 05

  It's a problem.

• 1:36:50Speaker 01

  Yeah. He's a real problem.

• 1:36:53Speaker 05

  It's cool that Michael Venom Page has a venom on the back of his shorts. Pretty cool.

• 1:36:59Speaker 01

  Coincidence, right?

• 1:37:02Speaker 05

  I forgot Venom's still on.

• 1:37:03Speaker 01

  Yeah. Venom Fight Gear.

• 1:37:05Speaker 05

  Yep. French company.

• 1:37:11Speaker 01

  Yeah, this dude knows how to fight him. I'll tell you that.

• 1:37:13Speaker 05

  Yeah, but the issue is, since he's used to it, he's not engaging. So you usually don't get a really, well, they're kind of thrown there.

• 1:37:19Speaker 01

  Well.

• 1:37:19Speaker 05

  You usually don't get a super entertaining fight.

• 1:37:21Speaker 01

  He's probably gonna look for a take.

• 1:37:22Speaker 05

  Can he do this style, Joe? Can he do this style and keep his hands up too? Or is it, is it necessary to keep it down?

• 1:37:29Speaker 01

  It's a big part of it.

• 1:37:30Speaker 05

  Speed comes from.

• 1:37:31Speaker 01

  It's a big part of it, cause you don't know where the shots are coming from. He throws overhands, he throws uppercuts.

• 1:37:35Speaker 05

  His jab will come from his hip.

• 1:37:37Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:37:37Speaker 05

  So it's part of it. If he had his hands up, it wouldn't work? He wouldn't move as well. Really?

• 1:37:42Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:37:42Speaker 05

  Or cover ground as well.

• 1:37:43Speaker 01

  You, the arms, swinging the arms back and forth helps you move around as well. It's a big part. It's like running. If you had to run with your arms like this, you would not be able to run as fast.

• 1:37:51Speaker 05

  Okay, but boy, you better be fucking good at it. Otherwise you're leaving your jaw wide open. But he's very evasive. Like no one really lands shots on him.

• 1:38:00Speaker 01

  So they were talking about Douglas Lima and Luke Rockhold. That was the fight that was proposed.

• 1:38:05Speaker 05

  Yeah, on MVP?

• 1:38:06Speaker 01

  That's interesting.

• 1:38:07Speaker 05

  Douglas Liam is another one that people forgot about.

• 1:38:10Speaker 01

  I think there was a time where he was arguably like the second best welterweight on the planet. You couldn't say he was the best until he fought in the UFC, but he was ultra impressive for a while. He was fucking a lot of-

• 1:38:22Speaker 05

  It's just tough with those Bellator guys.

• 1:38:23Speaker 01

  It's hard. You don't really know until they come over to UFC.

• 1:38:27Speaker 05

  Monster.

• 1:38:28Speaker 04

  What about A.J. McKee? What about him?

• 1:38:30Speaker 05

  He's good.

• 1:38:31Speaker 01

  Very good.

• 1:38:31Speaker 04

  Dude, he's the only guy in MMA history to have a hundred percent choke.

• 1:38:36Speaker 05

  Yeah, he was good.

• 1:38:37Speaker 04

  You know, the hundred percent fuck. I don't know if you know the full card. He taps people with that. That's one of my go-to moves.

• 1:38:42Speaker 05

  His son's really-

• 1:38:42Speaker 04

  Nobody knows that shit. Nobody does it. But A.J. McKee, he gets you a hundred percent full guard, the fight is over. It's over.

• 1:38:52Speaker 01

  There's a lot of elite talent that didn't get their shot on the big stage.

• 1:38:56Speaker 05

  Well, the thing about Patricio Pitbull, like by the time he comes, you're getting a certain version of him.

• 1:39:01Speaker 01

  Right. He was like thirty-six or thirty-seven.

• 1:39:04Speaker 04

  You don't think A.J. McKee could eventually end up in the UFC or it's-

• 1:39:07Speaker 01

  Well, how old is he now? Thirty-two, thirty-three?

• 1:39:10Speaker 05

  Not that old.

• 1:39:11Speaker 01

  Thirty. He's only thirty. Yeah, he definitely could. He gets a hundred percent.

• 1:39:15Speaker 05

  Um, yeah, he's gonna have to get going fast.

• 1:39:17Speaker 04

  Cause he was locked up. He was locked up in Bellator, then now he's PFL, but-

• 1:39:21Speaker 01

  The thing is, PFL wants to keep those talented guys and they're giving them a lot of money, man. I don't know what they're giving them these days. They don't. But if you win that tournament, you get a million dollars. Like Olivier Aubameyang Mercier won a million dollars fighting over there after the UFC let him go. That's nuts.

• 1:39:38Speaker 05

  Yeah, but is it nuts?

• 1:39:39Speaker 01

  It is.

• 1:39:40Speaker 05

  They should be getting paid more than that.

• 1:39:41Speaker 03

  What the fuck? Do something here. Fuck, chill it out. Enough. Who wins this fucking round?

• 1:39:48Speaker 01

  No one wins this round.

• 1:39:50Speaker 04

  This is the problem.

• 1:39:51Speaker 03

  This is why Dana White gets pissed off. You wanna go in there and battle. What the fuck? How much are we gonna weigh each other?

• 1:39:57Speaker 01

  Don't make this matchup.

• 1:40:00Speaker 01

  That was a, that wasn't anywhere near landing that wheel.

• 1:40:03Speaker 04

  No, slow.

• 1:40:04Speaker 01

  And a back fist, one back.

• 1:40:05Speaker 04

  Dude, he went, dude, look, Joe, he threw a back fist like this. You never see it. He was like, like this, and then went like this. Boom.

• 1:40:12Speaker 01

  Yeah, he does wild shit.

• 1:40:13Speaker 04

  You never see that shit.

• 1:40:13Speaker 05

  No, he does watch it.

• 1:40:14Speaker 04

  Dude, there was one guy, remember Daryl Gole?

• 1:40:17Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:40:17Speaker 04

  Daryl Gole, do you remember Daryl Gole? High level wrestler, went to Brazil to teach all the Brazilians wrestling. He's a black dude from fucking Detroit or something. What, go, moves to Brazil to teach wrestling in Brazil? And his fighting style, dude, he would throw a back fist off his jab. He, Daryl Gole, he would throw a jab and then back fist. He'd go pooh, pooh. And it worked. Pooh, pooh. That was his style. Jab, back fist. Nobody else did that.

• 1:40:44Speaker 01

  Don't you remember when, uh, when Dan Henderson knocked out, um, Hector Lombard? He hit him with a back fist, didn't he? Or a back elbow?

• 1:40:53Speaker 04

  Back elbow.

• 1:40:54Speaker 01

  Back elbow standing.

• 1:40:55Speaker 04

  Yep. You remember Tony Ferguson throws two back?

• 1:40:57Speaker 01

  Like that and dropped him.

• 1:40:59Speaker 04

  Remember Tony Ferguson throws two spinning elbows in a row?

• 1:41:04Speaker 01

  In a row, yeah.

• 1:41:05Speaker 04

  He threw one and then he goes, you know, I'll throw another one. Ba, ba. No one's ever done that.

• 1:41:08Speaker 05

  Tony's kind of killing it in that.

• 1:41:09Speaker 04

  No one's ever done that.

• 1:41:10Speaker 05

  He's killing that misfit though.

• 1:41:12Speaker 01

  In his prime, he was a motherfucker dude.

• 1:41:14Speaker 05

  Oh, bro, before he like fucking blew his knee out doing that fox thing, him and Khabib? It was a flip a coin, who's better?

• 1:41:21Speaker 01

  That would have been very, very.

• 1:41:23Speaker 04

  That was huge, dude.

• 1:41:24Speaker 01

  That motherfucker.

• 1:41:24Speaker 04

  Tony Ferguson versus Khabib? That was like, what was that, 2016?

• 1:41:28Speaker 01

  Page is landing a right hand three times.

• 1:41:30Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:41:30Speaker 01

  Page is on the gas now. Page is on the gas now. Now it's over. He just landed a right hand on this dude. He's like, what am I doing with this fucking barber? Well, he knows he can't deal with the booze. He's, he's in. That looks like a barber. Yeah. He's in London. He can't be losing in London and he can't have a boring fight in London. He's got to get something going.

• 1:41:45Speaker 04

  No, come on.

• 1:41:46Speaker 05

  He definitely has an after party and you gotta have.

• 1:41:48Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:41:48Speaker 04

  You can't be talking about bullshit at the after party.

• 1:41:50Speaker 05

  I think this is his last fight in the contract too.

• 1:41:52Speaker 01

  Well, if he stops this dude, everybody forgets about that first round. If he doesn't, that, that becomes a real problem when he is negotiating.

• 1:41:59Speaker 04

  Is this round two or three?

• 1:42:01Speaker 01

  Two.

• 1:42:01Speaker 05

  Or he leaves over to MVP, big dog.

• 1:42:06Speaker 01

  It is interesting. It's like there is a difference once a guy knows that style. Because Patterson's not been in real trouble. And everybody else is in trouble. Everybody that fights him gets lit up on the outside. Look what he did. To Jared Cannonier, who's a beast. Look what he did. Yeah, Kevin Holland couldn't touch him.

• 1:42:23Speaker 05

  Cause again, there's no way to mimic the stuff. The first time you see is in here and Bruce Buffer is fucking standing next to him.

• 1:42:28Speaker 01

  But this kid, ooh, he almost landed a right hand.

• 1:42:29Speaker 05

  This kid had a hundred rounds with him?

• 1:42:31Speaker 01

  Yeah, this kid's been in there with him a lot.

• 1:42:33Speaker 05

  They brought him in for Sherapova. They brought him in for fucking Kevin Holland.

• 1:42:38Speaker 04

  Oh. Damn, that was nice. That was fucking.

• 1:42:44Speaker 01

  That's so slick.

• 1:42:45Speaker 04

  Yeah, that was like.

• 1:42:46Speaker 01

  He does some slick shit.

• 1:42:47Speaker 04

  That was gangster.

• 1:42:47Speaker 01

  You see that one fight that he had where he threw a spitting 360 roundhouse kick, kicked the dude in the face, knocked him out and then just stood there with his back up?

• 1:42:54Speaker 05

  Yeah, it was dope. Remember what he did to Cyborg, the flying knee? Caved in his fucking skull?

• 1:43:00Speaker 01

  Worst knockout of all time. Of all time.

• 1:43:02Speaker 05

  Ever.

• 1:43:03Speaker 01

  You can't get a worse knockout. He literally caved his skull in.

• 1:43:06Speaker 05

  You had to have fucking brain surgery.

• 1:43:07Speaker 01

  Brendan. Probably never be the same again. I don't think he ever fought again.

• 1:43:10Speaker 04

  What is your technique in remembering all this shit? Do you like spend, I'm gonna spend one hour reviewing all fights? But what time is, like, how do you know all these fucking fights?

• 1:43:23Speaker 05

  It's just what I'm into. Like, you're into the Cleveland Browns. It's just what I'm into.

• 1:43:26Speaker 01

  You could talk about combat jujitsu matches and jujitsu matches.

• 1:43:30Speaker 05

  My thing is like, you know.

• 1:43:33Speaker 04

  When, when, what is your system? Like, in the morning, you wake up and you watch it in the morning?

• 1:43:38Speaker 05

  In the morning.

• 1:43:38Speaker 04

  You watch old UFC fights?

• 1:43:39Speaker 05

  Uh, I'll either watch them or I'll listen to other podcasts.

• 1:43:43Speaker 04

  How do you decide which fights you're gonna review?

• 1:43:46Speaker 05

  Usually the main, the main, the big dogs, the main ones. Well, review this fucking one, alright? Watch what the fuck is going on here. Joey, I told you.

• 1:43:54Speaker 04

  Brendan's an encyclopedia of stuff.

• 1:43:57Speaker 01

  A lot of stuff is not happening right here. There's a lot of like throwing punches at air.

• 1:44:01Speaker 05

  Me and Orlovsky is the worst heavyweight fight of all time. Nobody wants.

• 1:44:04Speaker 04

  You have an animation show, right?

• 1:44:05Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:44:06Speaker 01

  Show, yeah. It's interesting that they didn't think of this when they booked this fight. You know, they didn't think these guys are training partners. This might be a stinker.

• 1:44:13Speaker 04

  Exactly. That's what I would think. Call, call me.

• 1:44:16Speaker 05

  You can't do that.

• 1:44:18Speaker 01

  Maybe it's like you can't get anybody to fight Venom Page in London. That might be a problem too. It might have been a bunch of dudes said no. And Patterson was like, let's go.

• 1:44:27Speaker 05

  Nah, he said at 170 and 185 and they just weren't giving him anything.

• 1:44:32Speaker 04

  Has, has Venom fought a Daghestani type dude?

• 1:44:37Speaker 01

  Oh, no.

• 1:44:38Speaker 05

  Like wrestling? No.

• 1:44:38Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:44:39Speaker 05

  No.

• 1:44:39Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:44:40Speaker 05

  That's not fun.

• 1:44:40Speaker 01

  That's the big criticism.

• 1:44:42Speaker 04

  No, that, that's, that's the matchup right there.

• 1:44:44Speaker 01

  Him and Hamzat. That'd be nuts.

• 1:44:46Speaker 04

  Is he 185?

• 1:44:47Speaker 01

  He fights at 185.

• 1:44:48Speaker 04

  Is this 185 right now?

• 1:44:50Speaker 01

  No, this one's 170.

• 1:44:50Speaker 05

  I'll tell you what I can't fucking wait for is Hamzat versus Strickland. Let's take it.

• 1:44:56Speaker 04

  That's really happening?

• 1:44:58Speaker 05

  In New Jersey, in New Jersey, Joe.

• 1:45:01Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:45:02Speaker 04

  Damn.

• 1:45:02Speaker 05

  That's a motherfucking fight.

• 1:45:04Speaker 04

  That's, that's a Super Bowl right there, dude.

• 1:45:06Speaker 05

  The press conferences.

• 1:45:07Speaker 01

  Bro.

• 1:45:08Speaker 05

  So you know how the UFC makes them do, like Paramount makes them do face off like three times before the fight? They fly in on Tuesday. They have them face off with the lights. You can't do that with those.

• 1:45:16Speaker 04

  Imagine the shit.

• 1:45:17Speaker 05

  You can't do it. And Paramount, you know, they're in suits. Like, I don't see why not. It's like, well, because they're going to kill each other.

• 1:45:22Speaker 01

  Yeah, you can't do that.

• 1:45:23Speaker 05

  He called him a terrorist. He can't, we can't have it.

• 1:45:25Speaker 01

  He called him a goat fucker.

• 1:45:26Speaker 05

  Yeah, he's, damn. Can't have it.

• 1:45:28Speaker 04

  Damn.

• 1:45:31Speaker 01

  How good did he look against Fluffy?

• 1:45:34Speaker 05

  Before that fight, I'm like, man, Strickland would probably get fucked to buy Hamzat out. Then I, the shape I saw him in, I was like, motherfucker. He looks great.

• 1:45:44Speaker 01

  Yeah, he looks tremendous. Oh, that was a good right hand. That was a good right hand.

• 1:45:47Speaker 05

  Finally.

• 1:45:48Speaker 01

  Finally, but you can't have like one punch in a two round fight.

• 1:45:52Speaker 04

  He's got, he's got two or three.

• 1:45:54Speaker 05

  Training partners, man.

• 1:45:55Speaker 01

  I know.

• 1:45:56Speaker 05

  And Joe, that the mystery of that fight is Strickland's gonna get taken down. That's gonna happen. He'll get taken down. But he's so well versed on getting up in his cardio, that third, fourth and fifth round, once if he keeps getting up defending the submissions, that's when it gets interesting.

• 1:46:11Speaker 01

  He's also so hard to hit. He's so hard to hit. He does so many sneaky things on the feet that people don't see coming.

• 1:46:18Speaker 05

  Keeps coming.

• 1:46:18Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 1:46:19Speaker 04

  Yeah, no way Kozma is gonna fucking stand with him. He's gonna try to take him down. No way.

• 1:46:23Speaker 01

  Keeps teeping you. Hamzah can strike too, though. Did you see the video of Hamzah striking with Khalil?

• 1:46:28Speaker 04

  No, totally, but you think that's the best strategy for Kozma? No way.

• 1:46:32Speaker 01

  No, the best strategy is-

• 1:46:33Speaker 04

  Because Strickland can fucking-

• 1:46:34Speaker 01

  Drag him through the ground.

• 1:46:35Speaker 04

  He's got great striking. Why would you take a chance?

• 1:46:38Speaker 01

  The only thing that would make sense is if he wanted to make up for the last fight where a lot of people thought it was boring when he won against Strickland.

• 1:46:45Speaker 05

  Cause he didn't look for a finish.

• 1:46:46Speaker 01

  So he just comes out and tries to blast Strickland out.

• 1:46:49Speaker 04

  If he tries to stand with Strickland, dude, he's fucked.

• 1:46:50Speaker 05

  But here's why he can try to stand with Strickland, because he's not a knockout artist. Like, he's a volume puncher, like a Nate Diaz. He's, he, it's a lot of volume. So even if you do stand with him and you get pieced up, he's not really gonna knock you out.

• 1:47:01Speaker 04

  And we really don't know how strong-

• 1:47:03Speaker 01

  Dropped Izzy with one shot.

• 1:47:03Speaker 04

  We really don't know how Kozma's chin is, right? He's never, like, we don't know.

• 1:47:08Speaker 05

  No, he went toe-to-toe with, I mean, smaller guy, but Gilbert Burns, right? He traded shots with him.

• 1:47:12Speaker 01

  Gilbert dropped him.

• 1:47:13Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 1:47:13Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:47:14Speaker 05

  Yeah. Gilbert's a tank, dude.

• 1:47:16Speaker 01

  He never fought like that.

• 1:47:17Speaker 04

  He's gonna try to take Strickland down 100% of the time. No way is he gonna stand with him. No, no way is he gonna stand with that dude.

• 1:47:25Speaker 05

  The barber's gonna take him out right here. Watch. Round three.

• 1:47:28Speaker 01

  Well, we've had two stinker rounds. I wonder what the fight, the point count is of like, how many strikes have been landed?

• 1:47:35Speaker 05

  But I feel bad for MVP.

• 1:47:37Speaker 04

  Three significant strikes for Venom and two for the white dude.

• 1:47:41Speaker 01

  This is a guy who is an expert at fighting this style. It's really kinda interesting. He's so good at his distance management. He knows what Michael can do.

• 1:47:50Speaker 04

  You see that flying-

• 1:47:51Speaker 05

  And his best tool is the element of surprise, and they take it from him.

• 1:47:53Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:47:54Speaker 04

  He threw a flying wing chung kick.

• 1:47:56Speaker 01

  Yeah, they took his best skill.

• 1:47:57Speaker 05

  It's just not sending a guy up for success. That's my issue with it.

• 1:48:00Speaker 04

  Oh!

• 1:48:01Speaker 05

  And MVP's a bona fide star, man.

• 1:48:03Speaker 01

  I know. And meanwhile, this looks kinda shitty.

• 1:48:08Speaker 01

  I wonder what Venom's jiu-jitsu looks like. He's uh, tapped people before, didn't he get somebody an ankle lock? Yeah, that, yeah, yeah, that, I mean, that's all I remember. I'm sure he could do everything. I mean, I don't think he's got holes in his game. He's not gonna win fucking- It's just like, it's never gonna be as good as his stand-up is. Worlds, but- Yeah, his stand-up though is just so weird. It's like, most people just can't do, yeah. Most people can't do anything with it. No. Like Kevin Holland was like befuddled. He's like, what the fuck do you want me to do? I can't even hit this guy. Nothing. He couldn't even come close, he's just throwing it air. Trying to take him down? I mean, you couldn't get close. I mean, he never- He's really tough to take down. My, Michael Venom just controlled that fight. He just controlled every aspect of that fight. Was that before or after the Thompson fight?

• 1:48:53Speaker 01

  It's a good question. After, after the Thompson fight, yeah, after. So he fought two dudes that are impossible. But the thing, the crazy thing is like, he might have been able to take Wonder Boy down. Wonder Boy, you know, he, he's been taken down before. He's got a good takedown defense, but he didn't even try. I know. Making an agreement where you're not even gonna try? Wild. Who beat Steven Thompson, like decisively? Is there someone that just- Matthew Immortal Brown did. He was the first guy too. How did he do it? Took him to the ground and beat the fuck out of him. Yeah, Matt wore his ass out. That was the early days when Matt- Uh, yeah, Matt's a fucking beast. Yeah, he stopped. Yeah, he's great. Stopped fighting. Matt, Matt was a fucking animal in his prime. And that was the first defeat that Thompson had and like, he just couldn't deal with the full rounded skillset.

• 1:49:38Speaker 01

  And the pressure, nonstop, yeah. Veteran pressure and just like, he, he could fight on the ground too. And then Woodley beat Thompson two, yeah. Yeah, but it was super boring. Super boring, but Woodley fought him the right way. Yeah. Just like he's fighting him. Don't engage. Don't just run into the wood chipper. Stay on the outside, make him come to you. And Woodley hurt him. That's right. A couple times. Bad.

• 1:50:01Speaker 01

  Oh, it was a draw, one of them.

• 1:50:02Speaker 05

  Oh.

• 1:50:03Speaker 01

  Oh, so he beat him in the second fight. Oh, that's right. It was a draw and Woodley retained his title. I remember that.

• 1:50:10Speaker 01

  That's right. Bro, he was a bad motherfucker. How about when he beat up Johnny Hendrix?

• 1:50:14Speaker 05

  Oh, what happened to him? Where's Johnny Hendrix now?

• 1:50:18Speaker 01

  He's a cop.

• 1:50:19Speaker 05

  He's a cop.

• 1:50:22Speaker 05

  Dude, how about those, those epic matches? Wasn't it with like GSP? It was like Johnny Hendrix and GSP? That was like the Super Bowl. That was like the Super Bowl.

• 1:50:31Speaker 01

  Yeah, I thought he could have won that decision. At the ti- I haven't re-watched it, but at the time I was like, man.

• 1:50:35Speaker 05

  For sure.

• 1:50:36Speaker 01

  That could have been Johnny. But I'll tell you what, Matt, that guy used to put people to sleep. John Fitch, Martin Campman, remember those guys? He sent those guys in the air.

• 1:50:46Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:50:46Speaker 01

  He sent them in the air.

• 1:50:48Speaker 05

  Yeah. And then it all went away.

• 1:50:52Speaker 05

  He's a cop now, and you know who else is a cop? Anderson Silva.

• 1:50:54Speaker 01

  I know.

• 1:50:55Speaker 05

  No fucking way.

• 1:50:56Speaker 01

  He's Florida cop.

• 1:50:57Speaker 05

  You imagine him pulled over by the spy? What the fuck?

• 1:50:59Speaker 01

  Oh, that's right. It's Beverly Hills.

• 1:51:01Speaker 05

  Wait a minute.

• 1:51:02Speaker 01

  That's right.

• 1:51:02Speaker 05

  Anderson Silva's a cop?

• 1:51:04Speaker 01

  Yeah, go speed in Beverly Hills.

• 1:51:05Speaker 05

  A hundred percent?

• 1:51:06Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:51:07Speaker 05

  He's like driving around in a car?

• 1:51:08Speaker 01

  Yeah, bro.

• 1:51:09Speaker 05

  It's not like honorary.

• 1:51:11Speaker 01

  It's a good place to do it in Beverly Hills.

• 1:51:13Speaker 05

  Yeah, there's, you don't have to do shit.

• 1:51:15Speaker 01

  You're not like fucking South Central. Bro, this might be the least action of any fight ever, next to Derrick Lewis and Francis Ngano. Right?

• 1:51:23Speaker 05

  I could have, I fucking told you guys, it's two fucking well-known training partners.

• 1:51:28Speaker 01

  I'll tell you what, man, props to Patterson, because this is the first dude that Venom Page has fought that doesn't look like he doesn't belong in there. You know, other than Ian Garrow?

• 1:51:36Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:51:37Speaker 01

  Ian Machado Gary. Ian's a bad motherfucker, dude. He figured it out, you know? He figured out that style, just grab a hold of him, drag him to the ground, beat him there. Fuck's ended up with him.

• 1:51:46Speaker 05

  I'm pretty sure they announced Ian versus, uh, Islam. Ooh, I like that. Confirm that, Jamie, I get my facts off Twitter. I like that a lot. If that's real, I like that a lot. I like that a lot. That's a very good fight. I saw a pretty cool posters, just like Khabib and Connor.

• 1:51:59Speaker 02

  Twenty-three hours ago, still waiting for the call from the UFC.

• 1:52:03Speaker 05

  That's Ian, but, uh, Islam posted a picture though. Ooh. Like Islam, I think leaked it.

• 1:52:07Speaker 02

  Standing outside of a phone booth, waiting for the call.

• 1:52:10Speaker 05

  Go to Islam's Instagram.

• 1:52:11Speaker 01

  Imagine if Michael Venom Page loses this fight? No, he's not gonna lose it. Well, listen, all this guy's do is land four punches and it's the most anybody's ever landed.

• 1:52:20Speaker 05

  And he's controlling against the, uh, the cage.

• 1:52:22Speaker 01

  I don't think he's gonna win.

• 1:52:23Speaker 04

  I think that even if there's no significant damage between both of them, they're just gonna give it to Venom.

• 1:52:29Speaker 01

  Oh, this is crazy bad. That's a crazy bad fight.

• 1:52:33Speaker 04

  Is that it? It's over?

• 1:52:34Speaker 01

  That's it.

• 1:52:34Speaker 05

  And that's not on Michael Venom Page or Sam. That, that, that's not the matchmakers.

• 1:52:39Speaker 01

  That's a crazy matchup.

• 1:52:40Speaker 05

  Call your boy.

• 1:52:41Speaker 01

  It's literally the last guy you wanna fight a style like that, someone who understands it. It's the last thing you want. Don't you want excitement?

• 1:52:48Speaker 05

  You think they're gonna go for broke?

• 1:52:49Speaker 01

  They know each other.

• 1:52:50Speaker 05

  Don't you want as real as it gets?

• 1:52:51Speaker 04

  What if the guy in the Paramount brainstorming room is like, "How about we make friends fight?"

• 1:53:00Speaker 01

  Yeah! That'll be fucking great! That's hilarious. I bet it was one of the things where there's not a lot of guys lining up to take that fight. Cause he makes you look so stupid. But this dude is like, "I've been in there with him a hundred rounds. I know how to fight it."

• 1:53:17Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:53:18Speaker 01

  Big advantage, man. Giant advantage. Knowing what that distance is.

• 1:53:23Speaker 05

  I just have a hard time believing that. Like, those motherfuckers in the top ten, the 185 and 170 are dogs.

• 1:53:28Speaker 01

  They are, but...

• 1:53:30Speaker 04

  Especially if they can grapple, they'll do it.

• 1:53:32Speaker 01

  But, but look, the, the, the line to the top is very short right now.

• 1:53:35Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:53:36Speaker 01

  Right? And so like, nobody wants to slip and start from scratch again.

• 1:53:40Speaker 04

  Maybe.

• 1:53:40Speaker 01

  And there's not even like, look at Imamov. Everybody thought he was gonna get a title shot, right? But look, but, but the last time he fought Strickland, Strickland fucked him up.

• 1:53:49Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:53:50Speaker 01

  Right? So you have to, but Imamov's a beast too.

• 1:53:52Speaker 05

  But Strickland also been on short notice.

• 1:53:55Speaker 04

  Okay, what's going on with the, the, the Dagestani Russian guy, kinda red hair, beard?

• 1:53:59Speaker 01

  Shara Bullitt.

• 1:54:01Speaker 04

  He has, he has, his eyes fucked up or something?

• 1:54:03Speaker 01

  Yeah, he's got one blind eye.

• 1:54:04Speaker 05

  He can't fight in America, cause he can't pass, uh, commission here.

• 1:54:07Speaker 04

  What's up with him? Cause that guy's fucking good as fuck.

• 1:54:09Speaker 01

  Yeah, he's real good.

• 1:54:10Speaker 04

  Yeah, what's he, what's he doing?

• 1:54:11Speaker 01

  MVP Venom Page fucked him up.

• 1:54:13Speaker 04

  Really?

• 1:54:13Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:54:14Speaker 04

  Damn, I missed that one.

• 1:54:15Speaker 05

  And then he got, he got, uh, wrestled by, uh, Armin Sorukin. They did a grappling match.

• 1:54:22Speaker 01

  What if they call this a draw and they say, "We all lost"?

• 1:54:25Speaker 05

  And then apologize to us.

• 1:54:27Speaker 01

  Ladies and gentlemen, there is no winner. We all. Michael Vinton Page.

• 1:54:32Speaker 05

  Hell yeah.

• 1:54:33Speaker 01

  That does nothing for him. Nothing. It does nothing. I think it's bad for him. Hundred percent? Yeah, it's not good. Now you're damaged goods. Now you're going into your contract.

• 1:54:40Speaker 04

  The guy he's telling me, I told you I wasn't gonna knock you out, dog.

• 1:54:43Speaker 01

  But also, here's the problem. Now people know how to fight him. People are gonna watch that and go, oh, just don't engage.

• 1:54:48Speaker 04

  Maybe he didn't want the fight and said, you know what? They're gonna make me take this fight and we're just gonna play it and I'm not gonna hurt him. Maybe.

• 1:54:55Speaker 01

  No way.

• 1:54:55Speaker 04

  Maybe. Look at they're hugging.

• 1:54:57Speaker 01

  That dude was just good.

• 1:54:58Speaker 04

  I told you, I had told you I was gonna hit you.

• 1:55:00Speaker 01

  The guy is good. He's good. Oh, Sam's very good. Very good.

• 1:55:04Speaker 05

  He's coming off four wins, four TCS. This Luke Riley's a big deal out there.

• 1:55:08Speaker 01

  It's a big problem. Yeah, he is. It's a big problem. It's hard fight to, it's a hard fight.

• 1:55:12Speaker 05

  It's an awkward fight.

• 1:55:14Speaker 04

  Are these the last two fights?

• 1:55:15Speaker 05

  Yes. This is the co-main event.

• 1:55:17Speaker 04

  Okay. Tell me about him. I don't know that.

• 1:55:22Speaker 04

  I don't know anything about these guys.

• 1:55:24Speaker 01

  That loner Kavanaugh kid, that flyweight kid?

• 1:55:26Speaker 04

  Oh, yes.

• 1:55:29Speaker 01

  Do you know what's nuts? Charles Johnson has knocked out two of the best flyweights out there.

• 1:55:34Speaker 04

  I know.

• 1:55:35Speaker 01

  Joshua Van and loner Kavanaugh.

• 1:55:36Speaker 05

  You know what else is nuts? Why he doesn't just shave his fucking hair off?

• 1:55:39Speaker 01

  He likes it. Cause you remember it. You remember. He's got this crazy hair in the back. With all shaved in the top.

• 1:55:46Speaker 05

  Oh, I don't think he shaved. I think.

• 1:55:47Speaker 01

  Like this, eh, he's god bald.

• 1:55:49Speaker 05

  Jesus is a barber.

• 1:55:50Speaker 01

  Jesus is a barber. But the back, he has this big old puff of hair. I'll tell you, man.

• 1:55:56Speaker 05

  This kid in Cage Warriors is a fucking, he's like the next big thing out of here.

• 1:55:59Speaker 01

  Yeah, he's very good.

• 1:56:00Speaker 05

  So Patty came from Cage Warriors, Conor McGregor came from Cage Warriors. Like Cage Warriors is like the shit out there.

• 1:56:05Speaker 04

  Dude, I went to Cage Warriors like in 2004. I did a seminar out there and, um.

• 1:56:13Speaker 01

  Awesome promotion, man. There's so many good fighters.

• 1:56:15Speaker 04

  I swear to God, dude, I was, I was, so after the seminar, they go, dude, there's a Cage Warriors. They timed my seminar for a Cage Warrior. So I go with a bunch of, a bunch of dudes from the seminar. And we're watching these fights and there's a, but there's a lot of like, uh, Middle Eastern people there. Lot, a lot. So I, I go out in the cage and they wanna ask me questions. How was your flight over to the UK? And I said. There was an Asian guy, to me, an Asian guy is from China.

• 1:56:47Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:56:48Speaker 04

  He was sitting next to me on a flight over and he, and he, I think he, he stunk or he farted, I forget. But they go, how was your flight over here to the UK? And I go, I was next to an Asian guy and he fucking stank. And in UK, Asians are Muslims.

• 1:57:05Speaker 05

  Well, it's Pakistanis, it's, yeah, people from actual Asia.

• 1:57:09Speaker 04

  People, there was almost a riot. This is like 2004. Everyone exploded and they started throwing bottles in the fuck. And I'm like, whoa, dude, there was almost a riot. I'm like, wait a minute, I meant Asian, like Chinese. No, I didn't mean like you guys. And they freaked the fuck out. Luckily, I was there with like 20 jujitsu guys from the seminar. I would have been dead.

• 1:57:28Speaker 05

  Yeah, Cage Warrior, like Cage Warrior KSW, like, uh, Ryzen, that's where all the talent is from.

• 1:57:34Speaker 04

  Dude, they were throwing shit at me and I didn't give a fuck. I was like drunk, I was like flipping them off. I'm like, fuck you guys. I was an idiot.

• 1:57:40Speaker 05

  That's where all the talent is from.

• 1:57:41Speaker 04

  It was like 20 years ago.

• 1:57:42Speaker 01

  Cage Warriors has some elite talent.

• 1:57:44Speaker 05

  You know, you know, Patty.

• 1:57:45Speaker 01

  Chuck McGregor came over too.

• 1:57:46Speaker 05

  Yeah, and Patty was making more money doing Cage Warriors than he was in the UFC.

• 1:57:51Speaker 04

  What?

• 1:57:51Speaker 05

  That's why, yeah, he, I met him in San Diego and I was talking to his manager who runs Cage Warriors and like, yeah, he took a pay cut to come to the UFC.

• 1:57:59Speaker 01

  That's crazy. For his first fight?

• 1:58:01Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:58:02Speaker 01

  Well, eventually he started making money. How much was he making in Cage Warriors?

• 1:58:06Speaker 05

  Cause he, he was, he was the biggest draw and you're selling out like Liverpool's like state arenas. He was the main draw. So his, his, his, uh, manager wanted to go to the UFC like two years prior and he's like, no way. Uh, why am I gonna take a pay cut? So he's like, dude, to, to be considered the best, even though it's a pay cut, you gotta come over to the UFC.

• 1:58:23Speaker 01

  Do you feel like he got rushed into with a guy like Gagey, that he, he should have had like a few more top contenders?

• 1:58:29Speaker 05

  Fucking game plan was, like if you and I were talking, you were like, let's say off air, like I got some inside info. Patty's just gonna strike with Justin. I'd be like, oh, you had your fucking mind, dude. He's gonna lose. So I don't know what the game plan was.

• 1:58:41Speaker 01

  That's a good question.

• 1:58:42Speaker 05

  But again, it could be too much too soon, you know?

• 1:58:45Speaker 01

  I think it is. Gagey's a monster on the feet. He's a real problem.

• 1:58:48Speaker 05

  He's also a all-American wrestler.

• 1:58:50Speaker 01

  I know, but I also.

• 1:58:52Speaker 05

  Patty doesn't do takedowns.

• 1:58:54Speaker 01

  He beat up Fazev standing up.

• 1:58:55Speaker 05

  Yeah, bro.

• 1:58:56Speaker 01

  You know, Fazev's wicked.

• 1:58:57Speaker 05

  But.

• 1:58:57Speaker 01

  Wicked striker.

• 1:58:58Speaker 05

  So if, let's say, Connor Backs from International Fight Week, let's say he's doing International Fight Week, you're telling me, if we're trying to do Numbies or Paramount, you're telling me you don't do Patty versus Connor at 170?

• 1:59:08Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:59:08Speaker 05

  Patty's fucking huge. He'd do 170.

• 1:59:10Speaker 01

  Did you say Numbies?

• 1:59:12Speaker 05

  Numbies.

• 1:59:12Speaker 01

  I like that.

• 1:59:13Speaker 05

  Thank you.

• 1:59:14Speaker 01

  Well, unfortunately, the big fight would have been Patty versus Ilya. That would have been the big fight.

• 1:59:20Speaker 05

  That'd been the big fight.

• 1:59:21Speaker 01

  If they could have figured out a way to make that happen, that would have been the big fight.

• 1:59:24Speaker 05

  It's a disaster fight for Patty. And that's where the train stops. Would have been a big fight, but Connor Patty, it's like, that's fucking entertaining, dude.

• 1:59:31Speaker 01

  It is entertaining.

• 1:59:32Speaker 05

  That's, that.

• 1:59:33Speaker 01

  But I feel like that fight was in the future if they built him up correctly. I just think throwing him to Justin, you know, after, like, uh, was it, uh, Jared, Jared Gordon? I thought Jared Gordon won that fight.

• 1:59:46Speaker 05

  Yeah, but so does Patty. Even Patty was like, yeah, I probably lost that fight.

• 1:59:50Speaker 01

  That's what I thought. And so just a few years later, the Bobby Green video, that was impressive.

• 1:59:55Speaker 05

  Michael Chandler, he looked good.

• 1:59:56Speaker 01

  That was impressive.

• 1:59:57Speaker 05

  Still over guys, and then it's over, over Justin Gagey.

• 2:00:00Speaker 01

  Exactly.

• 2:00:01Speaker 05

  But and then my thing is when you look at Justin Gagey, it's like, wait, how's Patty gonna get him to the ground?

• 2:00:05Speaker 01

  Right.

• 2:00:05Speaker 05

  What's the move?

• 2:00:06Speaker 01

  Right.

• 2:00:07Speaker 05

  It can't be, if, if, if it's, what is it, these jujitsu trips? You know how fucking good Justin Gagey's takedown offensive is?

• 2:00:13Speaker 01

  And he's also such a good athlete.

• 2:00:14Speaker 05

  His hips are nuts.

• 2:00:15Speaker 01

  Crazy athlete.

• 2:00:16Speaker 05

  Wild.

• 2:00:17Speaker 01

  Yeah. And he fought that fight like a wild man.

• 2:00:20Speaker 05

  Wild.

• 2:00:20Speaker 01

  He fought that fight just pure reckless, just walked him down and just like let him swing on him.

• 2:00:25Speaker 05

  Fuck.

• 2:00:25Speaker 01

  It was like he felt no fear. It was kinda crazy.

• 2:00:28Speaker 05

  Dude, what happens if at the White House, you know, Trump, he's probably not too familiar with UFC fighters. And he's like, okay, America, Justin Gagey, let's do this. And Ilya Toporia comes out and fucking flatlines him in front of all the fucking.

• 2:00:43Speaker 01

  If Ilya Toporia flatlines Justin Gagey's next fight, he's got the greatest resume of all time.

• 2:00:47Speaker 05

  Ever.

• 2:00:47Speaker 01

  I mean, it's the craziest resume.

• 2:00:49Speaker 05

  Here's how the White

• 2:00:49Speaker 04

  That's a fucking amazing fight.

• 2:00:51Speaker 05

  Here's how the White House card could be saved with all the shit I'm talking, everybody talking. What if Justin Gagey, it could happen. What if he knocks Ilia Taporia out as the main event at the White House?

• 2:01:01Speaker 01

  That would be sad.

• 2:01:02Speaker 05

  Grab the American flag and fuck. That could easily happen. Just give a ripping promo.

• 2:01:07Speaker 04

  That could happen. Gagey could knock anybody's fuck out.

• 2:01:09Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:01:10Speaker 01

  And right when Bruce Buffer announces his name, that's when the drone hits.

• 2:01:18Speaker 01

  It says it's scheduled to start at noon. On the White House lawn? Yeah. Perfect. There'll be a thousand degrees out.

• 2:01:23Speaker 04

  Is there, is there an Iranian?

• 2:01:25Speaker 01

  It's eleven.

• 2:01:25Speaker 04

  Is there an Iranian fighter we could get for this fucking card?

• 2:01:28Speaker 01

  I'm gonna look like I'm in the shower.

• 2:01:30Speaker 04

  Yeah, humid as fuck. How about, how about main event? Top Iranian guy, top Israel guy.

• 2:01:37Speaker 05

  Not a top Iranian.

• 2:01:39Speaker 04

  Main event. What do you think about that?

• 2:01:40Speaker 05

  Which is a shame because Iranians are motherfuckers.

• 2:01:43Speaker 01

  How about a guy from Palestine? Like you get Bilal Mohammed against an Israeli guy. That's a dual fight.

• 2:01:47Speaker 04

  Are you kidding?

• 2:01:48Speaker 01

  That's a dual fight.

• 2:01:49Speaker 04

  That would be huge.

• 2:01:50Speaker 01

  You just need a time.

• 2:01:51Speaker 04

  That would be massive. There'd be Scud missiles coming from everywhere.

• 2:01:54Speaker 01

  But what guy in that weight class is from Israel? Nobody.

• 2:01:59Speaker 04

  Dude, Israel got a bunch of great fighters.

• 2:02:01Speaker 01

  I know, but in the UFC, there's no one in the UFC at 170 that's a guy from Israel.

• 2:02:06Speaker 05

  It's a weird one.

• 2:02:07Speaker 01

  Yes, a tough one, right? Who'd they give him?

• 2:02:11Speaker 01

  Um, shit.

• 2:02:14Speaker 05

  They're not doing many favors. And then also Kamal Usman thought he was getting Islam and then they yanked it from him at the last second.

• 2:02:20Speaker 04

  How about a Ukrainian against a Russian? Throw that shit in.

• 2:02:23Speaker 01

  I don't totally hate that.

• 2:02:24Speaker 04

  And the prelim, and the prelim?

• 2:02:26Speaker 01

  I think Ian, I think Ian Gary deserves it, but I also think Kamaru, like, come on, the guy's a legend.

• 2:02:33Speaker 04

  Legend.

• 2:02:33Speaker 01

  This is like.

• 2:02:34Speaker 05

  I wouldn't be mad at it. That's my thing. Yeah, I agree.

• 2:02:36Speaker 01

  And look sensational against Joaquin Buckley.

• 2:02:40Speaker 01

  I want to see that fight.

• 2:02:41Speaker 05

  This is my thing with Justin, like Justin might have one more, he said, for Ilya. My thing with Justin is like, let's go out on top. Ilya's a, could he win? Of course, anybody can win. But for Justin, all he's done for the company, give him the red panty night, give him Connor at 170.

• 2:02:56Speaker 01

  Right.

• 2:02:56Speaker 05

  That's the motherfucking fight.

• 2:02:58Speaker 01

  Oh, that's Patty.

• 2:02:58Speaker 05

  And make all the fucking money.

• 2:02:59Speaker 01

  Do you think that he would take that fight?

• 2:03:02Speaker 05

  Who?

• 2:03:02Speaker 01

  Connor.

• 2:03:03Speaker 05

  A hundred percent.

• 2:03:03Speaker 01

  Justin Gagey?

• 2:03:04Speaker 05

  A hundred percent.

• 2:03:04Speaker 01

  At 170?

• 2:03:05Speaker 05

  Dude, he was gonna fight fucking, uh...

• 2:03:08Speaker 01

  155.

• 2:03:08Speaker 05

  Uh...

• 2:03:09Speaker 04

  Connor can make 155, right?

• 2:03:10Speaker 01

  He could make 155. If he's off the sauce, he can make 155.

• 2:03:14Speaker 05

  Connor was down to fight Carlos Cattas at 170. You know they called him? He's like, yep, sign it.

• 2:03:18Speaker 01

  Really?

• 2:03:19Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:03:19Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 2:03:20Speaker 05

  He's gangster, dude.

• 2:03:21Speaker 01

  That's a gangster fight.

• 2:03:22Speaker 05

  Super gang, horrible fight for him.

• 2:03:24Speaker 04

  When was the last time Connor fought? How long has it been?

• 2:03:26Speaker 01

  It's been a long time.

• 2:03:27Speaker 04

  Two years?

• 2:03:28Speaker 05

  He hasn't won in forever.

• 2:03:29Speaker 01

  Well, he broke his leg in his last fight.

• 2:03:31Speaker 04

  But when was that? How long ago was that? Four years?

• 2:03:35Speaker 01

  At least three.

• 2:03:35Speaker 05

  At least.

• 2:03:36Speaker 04

  And a hundred percent, a hundred percent, you feel Connor's gonna at least come back for one more fight, right?

• 2:03:41Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 2:03:41Speaker 04

  Hundred percent.

• 2:03:42Speaker 05

  Hundred percent. I think UFC feels pressure from the criticism of this White House card and not closing on John Jones and the other fights. And they're gonna get it done with Connor.

• 2:03:50Speaker 01

  Five years?

• 2:03:51Speaker 05

  It's been five years.

• 2:03:52Speaker 03

  I don't think Connor was gonna fight all the time.

• 2:03:55Speaker 02

  Well, he fought, I mean, I guess maybe they're gonna fight.

• 2:03:58Speaker 05

  No, not Charles, not Charles. If anything, if...

• 2:04:00Speaker 03

  I thought it was Charles.

• 2:04:01Speaker 01

  No, we're talking about Justin Gagey.

• 2:04:03Speaker 05

  Justin Gagey.

• 2:04:03Speaker 03

  I thought it was, uh, Connor's fighting Charles in July.

• 2:04:07Speaker 01

  Bro, imagine, imagine the bonkers fight. Imagine this. Gagey somehow or another knocks out Ilya Toporia. Connor versus Gagey in July.

• 2:04:17Speaker 04

  That would be insane.

• 2:04:18Speaker 01

  You couldn't do it in July.

• 2:04:19Speaker 04

  Either, even Connor against Toporia would be insane. Whoever wins, like whoever wins that against Connor, that's, would be insane. Either one.

• 2:04:28Speaker 01

  It'd have to be the big December card, right?

• 2:04:30Speaker 03

  Let's just take Connor to July 11th. Let's not worry about December.

• 2:04:34Speaker 01

  Well, let's just get him to anywhere.

• 2:04:35Speaker 03

  That's a, that's a quick turn.

• 2:04:37Speaker 05

  He's, he's gonna do it.

• 2:04:38Speaker 03

  We're barely gonna get him.

• 2:04:38Speaker 01

  Who else would be good for him?

• 2:04:40Speaker 05

  Max Holloway. Whoa. They remember they fought, was Max's first fight in UFC. Whoa. Two completely different fighters. What happened? Max is done cutting weight, uh, Charles beat him. I'm, I'm sorry, Connor beat Max. But it's Max's first fight. Decision. Decision. Decision. Yeah. Forgot about that. So young though, like they're completely different. Max is a legend, Connor's a legend. They're both 145. That's a fucking cook dude. And, and Max coming off a loss, like you don't want to set Connor, like Carlos Prata's just fucked up. I feel it's so, it's so wrong to not give it to Michael Chandler. So fucked up. It's so wrong.

• 2:05:13Speaker 03

  You know, man.

• 2:05:13Speaker 05

  It's so wrong.

• 2:05:14Speaker 03

  You said it the best, Brogan. I, we all love Connor, but it's like, what if Marvin Hag was saying, it's tough to sleep on silk sheets?

• 2:05:23Speaker 05

  Yeah, it's tough to get up in the morning when you're sleeping in silk sheets. That's true, Rocky too. But, but some of those motherfuckers, like John Jones sleeps in silk sheets. He's a fucking dog. So was Floyd Mayweather when he was in his prime.

• 2:05:34Speaker 03

  These guys.

• 2:05:35Speaker 05

  Did Floyd Mayweather lose his money? Didn't he, no ways he broke. Well, he had three fucking fights in like two days.

• 2:05:42Speaker 03

  He lost it all and then got it back.

• 2:05:44Speaker 05

  Ah, that shit is sharp. Dude, Floyd Mayweather, when I'm hearing like he, like, didn't he have like five billion dollars? How do you lose that? He didn't have that much. Didn't have five bill, but he had a few hundred. They, they said in his career, he's made over a billion. But that's not, he doesn't have a. Buddy, he's having financial problems now? That's the word. Damn, I, it's hard to believe. Is it though? Yeah, dude, he didn't go to that many strip clubs. Yeah. He bought a lot of things, man. Think about all those diamond encrusted watches and all those Rolls Royces and all those Ferraris. Bugattis. All those houses and he bought a bunch of apartment buildings and. Those are good investments though. Yeah, but you gotta pay the mortgage. Correct. You know, and. He might've just had a big nut, then he stopped fighting. Who knows, man? He's got a bunch of people that are on his payroll. Whole staff.

• 2:06:30Speaker 05

  It's easy. So he's trying to set up another fight. It's gonna get, uh, making that kind of money all the time and then it just goes away. That's, that's athletes in general, bud. Yep. That's like every rock star story, every rockumentary, they blow up, get the mansions and then they gotta sell that motherfucking mansion. They, they don't teach you how to, uh, you know, I, I went through it. They don't teach you how to manage finances. Yeah. Like you're busy being a fucking warrior and athlete. No one goes, hey dude, you know that. You gotta pay your taxes, dog. Twenty million dollar house? Your mortgage on that's whatever, let's say twenty-five thousand dollars a month. Are you gonna be able to afford, it's a forty year mortgage.

• 2:07:06Speaker 04

  That's a lot.

• 2:07:07Speaker 05

  You're probably gonna fight for another six years, bud.

• 2:07:09Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:07:09Speaker 05

  What are you gonna do after that?

• 2:07:10Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:07:10Speaker 05

  No one talks to you like that.

• 2:07:11Speaker 04

  Sell that house, yeah, bro. Every rock star, dog, goes up with the mansions and then they gotta sell that mansion, dog. They gotta sell that motherfucker.

• 2:07:20Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 2:07:20Speaker 04

  It's, it's crazy.

• 2:07:22Speaker 05

  Well, cause no one teaches them. Yeah, they take advantage of them.

• 2:07:24Speaker 03

  Look at the Stones. Look at Led Zeppelin, look at all these bands, and look at Black Sabbath, they were broke by the time.

• 2:07:30Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:07:31Speaker 03

  See, that Ozzy thing, that's a success story all around.

• 2:07:33Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:07:34Speaker 03

  They were broke when they made.

• 2:07:35Speaker 04

  Same thing with Kiss. Kiss was the biggest band in the world, eighty-one.

• 2:07:38Speaker 01

  They made that reality show, right?

• 2:07:39Speaker 03

  Which one?

• 2:07:41Speaker 01

  Ozzy, he was broke and he made his reality show.

• 2:07:42Speaker 05

  That's why he did it, right? His wife set it up.

• 2:07:44Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:07:45Speaker 03

  His wife is a fuck, her, his wife.

• 2:07:47Speaker 05

  The Osbournes.

• 2:07:48Speaker 01

  I don't know, they're broke, is that true?

• 2:07:50Speaker 05

  Well, I'm pretty sure I heard that, that's why she did the deal.

• 2:07:52Speaker 04

  I never heard that. But most bands, they, they'd go through that, like Black Sabbath, every, they got all their shit and then they lose all their shit. And then they got all their shit, then they lose all their shit.

• 2:08:01Speaker 03

  They could be announced, and Coke, you forget it, the show, night before.

• 2:08:03Speaker 04

  Kiss in nineteen.

• 2:08:04Speaker 03

  And they wake up one day.

• 2:08:05Speaker 04

  Yeah, Kiss in nineteen seventy-seven were the biggest band in the world, but by nineteen eighty, they were fucking bankrupt and shit. And they were struggling with selling all their shit, broke.

• 2:08:14Speaker 01

  They're missing an awesome fight.

• 2:08:15Speaker 04

  So.

• 2:08:20Speaker 01

  The pressure of fighting for the first time in the UFC in a co-main event is crazy.

• 2:08:25Speaker 05

  Did you hear Michael Cavan Page talk about the pressure? Have you, have you heard him talk about it? Cause they were asking, they go, and it's true, I always said this, that, you know, Bellator fighters, when they come with the UFC, the majority of them struggle. They asked Michael Cavan Page, why do you think you've had, you know, you're more, one of the successful guys that come from Bellator? He goes, I'll tell you this, man, I fought for titles in Bellator, I fought in world championships and karate and all this shit. He goes, when you come to the UFC, it's just different. He goes, the pressure, the nerves, he's like, I've been in big fights. People come up like, man, you knocked this guy out, you're setting all time, uh, knockout record. And he goes, yeah, cool. He goes, that didn't bother me. My first fight in UFC, he goes, the nerves were unreal. It's just a, it's the big leagues, it's just a different game.

• 2:09:08Speaker 04

  Here's your chance, don't blow it.

• 2:09:10Speaker 05

  It's just a different, it's a.

• 2:09:11Speaker 04

  You got it, you wanted, you wanted to be here, are you gonna blow it? And blow it in front of your family and your friends?

• 2:09:16Speaker 05

  Just a different.

• 2:09:17Speaker 04

  A lot of pressure, yeah, a lot of pressure.

• 2:09:19Speaker 03

  That's why I bet against fighters when they fight at home. A lot of pressure. I bet against fighters. But sometimes you fight harder when their, when their families watch them. I'm a comic, I know how it works. Yeah. Ask Joe on Friday. Everybody starts. Blowing you up, distracting you. I get tickets, can I come to the show? Yeah. Oh my god, I didn't know you were playing. Yeah. Now you got your rant. Now you walking in there and that pressure you putting on yourself because you got tickets. Yeah. For all those fucking people. You just gotta be smart about your phone. Whenever fighters fighting at home, I always go the other way. I, listen, I'm like seven out of ten with it. I bet. But it's the truth because as a comic, I know what Friday's like. That's when they call you, we got another date for you, well call me on Tuesday when I'm in front of my fucking computer. Yeah.

• 2:10:00Speaker 03

  They call you to throw you off and now you're like, so that's why I don't, I always bet against fighters when they're at home. Are you, are you touring a lot right now, Joey? No. Nope, just around Jersey. I heard, are, are you? No, no, no, I go everywhere. Aren't you opening up the Brooklyn Improv? No. Someone told me that. I'm doing an episode of it. I'm doing the fifteenth. Gotcha. It's only two hundred seats. Yeah. But it's right over the bridge. That's cool they put an improv in Brooklyn. Which, uh, part of Brooklyn? Uh, the one right over the bridge, Harrisburg, I think. Harrisburg? It used to be, uh, right when you walk over the Brooklyn Bridge right now, it used to be, uh. I don't even know what that is. A second city, yeah, it's right over the bridge, Harrisburg.

• 2:10:35Speaker 03

  Yeah, I was talking to Mark Norman, he's like, comedy's really big right now in New York. It's like a lot of clubs are opening. Comedy's big everywhere right now. It's pretty awesome. What they did was they mashed too much in New York City. Yeah? Now these suburb rooms. Mmm. Brooklyn, these, bro, that theater in Staten Island, did we ever do that together? No. That theater, George. Oh. That theater is fucking amazing, this St. George Theater. It's fucking amazing, dog. Staten Island's fun. Dog, I had a fucking blast because I'm a knucklehead. When you're a knucklehead, Staten Island is knuckleheads. Good pizza. Oh yeah? Everything. Real Italians, Staten Island. That's real. Is Staten Island where all the mobsters used to live? Yes. They lived everywhere. They lived in Brooklyn.

• 2:11:18Speaker 03

  But wasn't Staten, Staten Island like the, where the homes were for them, like the family homes? Some of them, Paul Costellano lived. Yeah, that's right. Always remember, Staten Island, no disrespect to Staten Island, was a dump. A landfill, yeah.

• 2:11:30Speaker 05

  Oh, wow.

• 2:11:31Speaker 03

  So, you know, like when Castlin opened his house, people said it smelled a little bit in the summer. In Jersey, you could smell the trash from Staten Island.

• 2:11:39Speaker 01

  Isn't that crazy? They take garbage and the solution is just put it in the ground.

• 2:11:42Speaker 05

  Wow.

• 2:11:43Speaker 01

  Forever.

• 2:11:43Speaker 05

  There has to be.

• 2:11:44Speaker 01

  Forever.

• 2:11:44Speaker 02

  They had pigs eat it for a long time.

• 2:11:46Speaker 01

  What's that?

• 2:11:47Speaker 02

  They had pigs eat it for a long time. They didn't know what to do.

• 2:11:49Speaker 01

  That's the move.

• 2:11:49Speaker 05

  What the fuck? That's not a bad idea.

• 2:11:51Speaker 01

  That's a better idea.

• 2:11:52Speaker 03

  Central New Jersey.

• 2:11:53Speaker 01

  But they can't eat everything.

• 2:11:54Speaker 03

  If it wasn't for Staten Island.

• 2:11:56Speaker 02

  Not according to stats.

• 2:11:58Speaker 05

  Oh, wow.

• 2:11:59Speaker 01

  They should have brought back the pigs.

• 2:12:00Speaker 03

  Very, uh, you know, with Staten Island's food. There's a place in Staten Island that makes chicken caught in blue still.

• 2:12:08Speaker 01

  Yeah?

• 2:12:09Speaker 03

  Joe, my neighbor.

• 2:12:10Speaker 01

  Isn't that a common menu item? You're like, still, like it's from the eighteen hundreds?

• 2:12:14Speaker 03

  No, that's not because they're lazy. Nobody wants to cut a chicken and put ham in it. But these people.

• 2:12:20Speaker 05

  That sounds nice.

• 2:12:20Speaker 01

  Bro, half of what I watch on YouTube is people cooking. I love watching people cooking. The last few weeks has been dudes cooking in the mountains. Like ASMR where you don't, they don't talk at all. They just chop the stuff up.

• 2:12:34Speaker 05

  Do you like to cook?

• 2:12:34Speaker 01

  I love it.

• 2:12:35Speaker 05

  You like to cook?

• 2:12:36Speaker 01

  I do. Yeah, I love cooking.

• 2:12:37Speaker 05

  I wish I liked. I just watch all car shit on there.

• 2:12:40Speaker 01

  I watch a lot of that, too.

• 2:12:41Speaker 05

  Like guys are trying to figure out how to unlock the, the ECU on the ZR1.

• 2:12:45Speaker 01

  Yo, you know what I'm obsessed with right now? That Cadillac Blackwing, the CT5.

• 2:12:50Speaker 05

  Yeah, let's go, brother. Fuck you.

• 2:12:53Speaker 01

  That is a crazy car for them to build.

• 2:12:55Speaker 05

  Isn't that cool?

• 2:12:55Speaker 01

  Six hundred and sixty-eight horsepower Cadillac that you can get in a manual.

• 2:12:59Speaker 05

  Isn't that great?

• 2:13:00Speaker 01

  It's nuts. And then Hennessy will jack that motherfucker up to a thousand.

• 2:13:04Speaker 05

  Now we're cooking.

• 2:13:04Speaker 01

  Which is just a tire burner. It's just gonna cook the tires off of it.

• 2:13:09Speaker 05

  What's crazy is like we talked, you know, that your ZR1X has whatever a thousand something horsepower. Right? Was it twelve? Is it twelve? It's twelve hundred. The X is twelve hundred. The guy that won, uh, Texas two K yesterday in Houston. He did it in a Lamborghini. Bro, three thousand horsepower.

• 2:13:24Speaker 01

  Whoa.

• 2:13:25Speaker 05

  They're just, it's, what the fuck are we doing?

• 2:13:28Speaker 01

  So that must be like.

• 2:13:30Speaker 05

  Well, that's a Hennessy one thousand.

• 2:13:31Speaker 01

  That's a CT five V.

• 2:13:32Speaker 04

  That's three thousand horsepower?

• 2:13:33Speaker 05

  No.

• 2:13:34Speaker 01

  No. No, no, that's a Cadillac. That's a thousand horsepower. That's a Cadillac CT five V and they take it and they jack it up. It comes six sixty eight, I think, and they take it and they jack it up to a thousand. But it just, when you drive in it, it drives like a luxury car. The inside looks like a luxury car. It's incredible.

• 2:13:54Speaker 05

  You drive it, bro?

• 2:13:55Speaker 01

  I haven't driven that one, but I've driven, I have the V as a Suburban. I have the big one, the big Escalade V.

• 2:14:00Speaker 05

  They cook.

• 2:14:01Speaker 01

  The big one. It's amazing.

• 2:14:02Speaker 05

  And I like the interiors are incredible. They're great. Those Blackwings, I like them in that blue they offer. Have you seen that blue, Joe?

• 2:14:08Speaker 01

  Yes. Gorgeous. They have a green too, a sick green.

• 2:14:11Speaker 05

  I haven't seen that.

• 2:14:12Speaker 01

  Oh, my God, it's like a dark metallic green.

• 2:14:14Speaker 05

  Dude, I just got a twenty five hundred, the AV Rams. Those AVs.

• 2:14:19Speaker 01

  Nice.

• 2:14:19Speaker 05

  Bro.

• 2:14:20Speaker 01

  Oh, you got, that's one of them, you going off road, dog?

• 2:14:22Speaker 02

  Is that real?

• 2:14:22Speaker 05

  You know, I do my thing.

• 2:14:23Speaker 01

  Is that real?

• 2:14:24Speaker 05

  That's crazy.

• 2:14:25Speaker 01

  Three thousand horsepower.

• 2:14:26Speaker 05

  That's who won Texas two K.

• 2:14:27Speaker 01

  Three thousand.

• 2:14:28Speaker 05

  It's making a wheelie. All these boys on the street now, like they laugh at a thousand.

• 2:14:31Speaker 04

  Is that a Lamborghini?

• 2:14:32Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:14:32Speaker 01

  Okay. That's crazy.

• 2:14:33Speaker 05

  Or that's a Huracan.

• 2:14:35Speaker 01

  Bro, that's just cooking off those tires.

• 2:14:37Speaker 04

  And what, one point three?

• 2:14:39Speaker 01

  Oh, he has to have a parachute on it. Look at these, that's slippery dude, he's losing. If you don't know how to drive and you get behind that fucking thing, you're spinning out and going right into that sign.

• 2:14:47Speaker 05

  Oh, I'll wreck that thing.

• 2:14:49Speaker 01

  Hundred percent.

• 2:14:50Speaker 05

  I know my limit.

• 2:14:51Speaker 01

  Look how, look at when he loses it a little bit. Look at it. Bro, you know how terrifying that must have been when the ass kicks out? With three thousand horsepower?

• 2:14:59Speaker 05

  Bro, I was in one of those Calvo Vipers with two, twenty two hundred horsepower.

• 2:15:03Speaker 01

  Nuts. Gordon Ryan's obsessed with those.

• 2:15:05Speaker 02

  A little scared.

• 2:15:06Speaker 05

  I was so scared to, I, I, I don't want to get hurt. And he showed me a video of, Calvo showed me a video of him because I, as we're going, I'm like, how much horsepower? It's twenty four hundred, I'm like, Jesus Christ, dude, I go, hey, man, you ever crashed one of these things? He goes, oh, yeah. Shows me a video of him just getting fucked up.

• 2:15:20Speaker 01

  Flipped?

• 2:15:21Speaker 05

  Buddy, yeah.

• 2:15:21Speaker 01

  Yeah, fucked up.

• 2:15:22Speaker 05

  I was fucking terrified.

• 2:15:23Speaker 01

  Not fun.

• 2:15:24Speaker 05

  I don't want to go out like that. I was shooting a TV show, this Gearhead's Gone Wild. So I'm fucking, I don't want to go out shooting a fucking TV.

• 2:15:29Speaker 04

  Gearhead's Gone Wild?

• 2:15:30Speaker 05

  Yeah. Dude, that's hilarious. It's on Tubi.

• 2:15:33Speaker 04

  Is that your show?

• 2:15:34Speaker 05

  That's my show.

• 2:15:35Speaker 04

  My new show.

• 2:15:36Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:15:36Speaker 04

  Dude, that's perfect.

• 2:15:38Speaker 05

  Yeah, it's perfect. Yeah, Gearhead's Gone Wild.

• 2:15:39Speaker 01

  These guys are banging, boys.

• 2:15:42Speaker 04

  These guys are banging.

• 2:15:43Speaker 01

  These guys are banging.

• 2:15:44Speaker 04

  Oh!

• 2:15:45Speaker 01

  Oh, Riley just connected with some big shots.

• 2:15:50Speaker 03

  This kid said if Michael Page ain't gonna do it, I'm gonna do it for him. Come on Dana.

• 2:15:55Speaker 01

  Man, Michael Page must feel like shit right now.

• 2:15:57Speaker 03

  Give me that bonus cash.

• 2:15:58Speaker 04

  You know feels like shit is Sammy got half his pay.

• 2:16:00Speaker 01

  Right.

• 2:16:01Speaker 04

  You know what I'm saying?

• 2:16:02Speaker 01

  That's true.

• 2:16:02Speaker 04

  Neither one of them did shit.

• 2:16:05Speaker 01

  But it's like Michael Vanna Page was in the hunt, like potentially for a future world title.

• 2:16:09Speaker 04

  That's not on him though, man. That's on matchmaking.

• 2:16:12Speaker 01

  I know.

• 2:16:14Speaker 03

  Gentlemen, you can't blame everything on matchmaking.

• 2:16:16Speaker 04

  I have to, Joey.

• 2:16:17Speaker 03

  What's the number one rule? Don't let anything up to the judges.

• 2:16:20Speaker 04

  Well, buddy, buddy, come on. That's some Dana White shit.

• 2:16:23Speaker 01

  Yeah, you can't.

• 2:16:24Speaker 04

  These guys are really fucking good. That never worked. That never worked for me. That never worked. When they go, don't leave it up to the judges. It's some Dana White shit. When people go, can't leave it up to the judges. Okay, I hear you. That guy's really fucking good. I'm fighting, dude.

• 2:16:35Speaker 01

  Also, he's, he knows him so well.

• 2:16:37Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 2:16:38Speaker 01

  That's the real problem. It's the matchmaking. You're right.

• 2:16:43Speaker 04

  Let's get best friends to fight.

• 2:16:47Speaker 01

  Imagine that was really happening?

• 2:16:50Speaker 04

  Yes!

• 2:16:50Speaker 01

  Evil dude.

• 2:16:51Speaker 04

  Just do it, green light it, like right away. Go, go, go, another one. Who else? Who else are best friends? Let's get more best friends.

• 2:16:57Speaker 01

  Cause no one knows fighting.

• 2:16:58Speaker 04

  Can you imagine they have a card, all best friends fighting?

• 2:17:00Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:17:01Speaker 04

  Dude, it's like the worst card ever.

• 2:17:03Speaker 01

  Dude, I fought two good buddies.

• 2:17:04Speaker 04

  Like $2,000 pay per view.

• 2:17:06Speaker 01

  It sucks, man. Matt Mitrione was my boy. Bro, imagine you and me had a fight. How horrible that would be?

• 2:17:11Speaker 04

  Dude, I would fuck you up.

• 2:17:16Speaker 04

  And I would hate it. I'd like, damn.

• 2:17:17Speaker 01

  I'd hate it in the middle of it.

• 2:17:19Speaker 04

  I'd love you, dog. With that turning sidekick bullshit, this ain't fucking Kung Fu Theater, okay?

• 2:17:28Speaker 04

  No, honestly, anytime anybody's ever mentioned, like a dude, who would win a new fight, you or Joe Rogan, I always say, Joe Rogan would fucking kill me.

• 2:17:37Speaker 01

  I do too. He says that all the time.

• 2:17:39Speaker 04

  I know, and I mean that. There's no way I'd be able to take him down. Like, first of all, this is like reality. This is like me judging the fight. I'm like, I, I wouldn't be able to take him down because I have the worst wrestling in, dude, I've never taught one takedown in my motherfucking life. Yeah.

• 2:17:55Speaker 01

  If I went to the ground though, I'd be fucked.

• 2:17:57Speaker 04

  Buddy, how would I get you to the ground? You would fucking light me up.

• 2:18:00Speaker 01

  Jump guard.

• 2:18:00Speaker 04

  You would go, whoa, whoa, whoa. He would knock me out with jabs.

• 2:18:03Speaker 01

  He's also.

• 2:18:03Speaker 04

  He wouldn't even have to throw a right hand. He would be nice to me. He goes like, I love him. He's like my brother.

• 2:18:07Speaker 01

  I wouldn't be able to hit you. There's no way.

• 2:18:09Speaker 04

  No, you would be able to jab me. You would jab me, dog. You would jab.

• 2:18:14Speaker 01

  You don't want one of these coming towards your face.

• 2:18:16Speaker 04

  I would be like, Joe, you hook it up. Hook it up. Don't fuck me. No turning side kick.

• 2:18:21Speaker 01

  It would just look like Jake Paul versus Mike Tyson.

• 2:18:23Speaker 04

  I was just gonna say that. If you and I fought, it'd be fucking Jake Paul.

• 2:18:25Speaker 01

  It would be throwing punches to the shoulders.

• 2:18:28Speaker 04

  Okay, Dana's making us do this.

• 2:18:29Speaker 01

  It would be shoulder throwing. Like even Roy Jones, when he fought Mike Tyson, they were all body punches.

• 2:18:34Speaker 04

  It's all bullshit.

• 2:18:34Speaker 01

  They never really.

• 2:18:34Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's all fake. I would say, Joe, you throw one turning side kick right at 113.

• 2:18:39Speaker 01

  Bro, it would look like a Kung Fu movie. We would choreograph that shit. We would choreograph that shit like a Kung Fu movie.

• 2:18:45Speaker 04

  We gotta sell. But you know what? You would have to let me take you down and almost choke you and then you escape. I go, let me get you like an almost choke. I had you like deep choke.

• 2:18:55Speaker 01

  It would be like this, like I'm about to tap and I don't.

• 2:19:00Speaker 04

  And then I'd let your leg kick me or whatever. And you drop me with a leg kick. Give me right in the leg and I'll go, ooh. I'll be like limping and then the ref will have to stop it and we're good.

• 2:19:09Speaker 01

  Imagine you have to knock one of your good friends out. Like that's happened a bunch of times with guys. Like, put your good friend in the hospital.

• 2:19:16Speaker 04

  Terrible. Ugh. That could be a cartoon right there, that fight.

• 2:19:20Speaker 01

  And take half their pay. It's fucked up. I hate that. I hate, I hate the win pay thing. I hate it. It's what, the only thing I hate more is weigh-ins. I hate, I hate weight cutting.

• 2:19:32Speaker 04

  What do you mean? You hate the win pay? What do you mean?

• 2:19:34Speaker 01

  I hate the fact that you get paid more if you win.

• 2:19:37Speaker 04

  Why?

• 2:19:37Speaker 01

  Because a lot of times it's a bullshit decision.

• 2:19:39Speaker 04

  I would say you only get the bonus if there's a not, a finish.

• 2:19:43Speaker 01

  Well, that's what they're doing. But that's what they're doing now. They're doing a finish bonus, but you're still getting fight pay and then win pay.

• 2:19:49Speaker 04

  I would eliminate that. I would go, this is your show pay and this is the pay if you finish the guy and then that's it.

• 2:19:54Speaker 01

  Joe, you know that's why Rhonda decided to go to MVP and fight Gina, cause she, they originally went to Dana. And she was like, hey, now that there's no pay-per-view, I want this guaranteed amount. And he was like, no.

• 2:20:05Speaker 05

  No, that's just not our business model. It's not what we do because we pay you all that money. Then you know, we're gonna have to do that down the road.

• 2:20:11Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:20:11Speaker 05

  Good luck somewhere else. She'll all say less.

• 2:20:13Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:20:13Speaker 05

  I went to fucking MVP and they're like, here's a guaranteed money.

• 2:20:16Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:20:17Speaker 05

  Cause she wanted, yeah, she wanted guaranteed money because they, the UFC originally wanted that, wanted that fight.

• 2:20:22Speaker 01

  Oh my god.

• 2:20:23Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:20:23Speaker 04

  What if Gina wins and then they do a rematch?

• 2:20:27Speaker 05

  Or what if Rhonda wins and they do Holly?

• 2:20:28Speaker 01

  She says she wants to fight Holly. Yeah. Holly is.

• 2:20:30Speaker 05

  That would be huge. Holly's waiting right there. Get that little rematch. Totally.

• 2:20:34Speaker 01

  Good time to fight Holly.

• 2:20:35Speaker 04

  The crazy thing about Rhonda is, uh, she was on such a meteoric rise and then the Holly home thing happened. And then she, she kinda took a little break for like a year. And then, and it was like Amanda was nobody back then. So they go, okay, Rhonda, just, we're gonna give you, uh, like some up and comer, easy Brazilian.

• 2:20:55Speaker 01

  No, they didn't have that. She was the champion.

• 2:20:57Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:20:58Speaker 05

  No, she wasn't. Amanda Nunes was the champion?

• 2:21:00Speaker 01

  Yeah. Yes.

• 2:21:01Speaker 05

  Was she?

• 2:21:01Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:21:01Speaker 05

  Oh my god, I was wrong then.

• 2:21:02Speaker 01

  We knew she was the. Bro, she.

• 2:21:04Speaker 05

  She was the champion.

• 2:21:05Speaker 04

  Nobody liked that fight. Nobody liked that fight.

• 2:21:07Speaker 01

  She fucked up Misha Tate. Dude, she was a monster.

• 2:21:09Speaker 05

  You know what?

• 2:21:10Speaker 01

  Amanda was a terrifying woman.

• 2:21:11Speaker 05

  I remember they gave Rhonda an easy fight when they thought.

• 2:21:16Speaker 01

  No, no, no, no, no. The only people that thought that were like idiot Hollywood agents.

• 2:21:20Speaker 05

  That's me. You call me an idiot? Come on, dog. I'm your fucking brother.

• 2:21:26Speaker 01

  You weren't working for the UFC at that time. So I was there and you don't watch all the fights. I watched every one of her fights. That lady hits harder than any woman that's ever walked the art.

• 2:21:35Speaker 05

  I'm not saying, but it seems like nobody knew that. It seemed like.

• 2:21:38Speaker 01

  I fucking knew it. I thought that was the worst fight for her before the Holly fight. I was telling Dana. Because I was surprised they made the Holly fight. I thought they were gonna make Amanda Nunes. I go, Amanda Nunes is a fucking problem. I go, because she's a black belt in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and her hands, she fucked up Kat Zinganu so bad. She messed up her hormone levels. Kat's cortisol was messed up. She had vertigo. She was fucked up for like a year after that.

• 2:22:02Speaker 05

  Amanda Nunes.

• 2:22:03Speaker 01

  And Kat won. Kat stopped her.

• 2:22:05Speaker 05

  Yeah. Amanda Nunes got shoulders like Michelle Obama, dog.

• 2:22:08Speaker 01

  She throws hammers. That lady hits like a dude.

• 2:22:12Speaker 05

  I love it. I got it. That's a compliment. That's a compliment.

• 2:22:16Speaker 01

  Everybody says that like transgender people are amazing, but the number one insult when someone is going after a lady, they say she's really got a dick.

• 2:22:24Speaker 05

  Looks like a dude. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 2:22:25Speaker 01

  Well, she's got a dick, like secretly, like Michelle Obama. She really got a dick. People were saying that about Erica Kirk. They're like, crazy people. It's not a realistic.

• 2:22:33Speaker 05

  Erica Kirk got a dick?

• 2:22:35Speaker 01

  No, of course she doesn't, but crazy people online have been saying it.

• 2:22:38Speaker 03

  She's sucking dick right now, motherfucker.

• 2:22:42Speaker 03

  That's a widow, you piece of shit.

• 2:22:44Speaker 01

  She's saving it for Jesus.

• 2:22:45Speaker 05

  Yeah, if she had a dick, it wouldn't be that bad. Erica Kirk, if she had a dick, it would be like five inches. It'd max, max.

• 2:22:52Speaker 01

  Let the lady green.

• 2:22:53Speaker 05

  And I like, uh, she's a wild girl before Charlie walked.

• 2:22:57Speaker 03

  Yeah, before Charlie, she was. She looked Charlie's ass and he was fucking, yeah. Those dirty white bitches are sting a tongue in your ass. Those Charlie Kirks don't know what the fuck hit them. They're mopping, swapping, doing laundry. You shove your tongue up a fucking, up a fucking little white guy like that's ass. He's gonna see fucking fireworks. His life is changed.

• 2:23:14Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:23:15Speaker 03

  His life is changed.

• 2:23:17Speaker 01

  Imagine if that's all it takes. So just confused, doesn't know what to do.

• 2:23:21Speaker 05

  I will think about it.

• 2:23:23Speaker 03

  You got some twenty-four-year-old white dude that was in the Boy Scouts and you set him loose with a Puerto Rican chick from the Bronx.

• 2:23:29Speaker 01

  Uh-oh.

• 2:23:29Speaker 03

  That hasn't eaten in three days.

• 2:23:31Speaker 01

  That's different.

• 2:23:33Speaker 01

  Listen to her.

• 2:23:34Speaker 05

  Erica Kirk.

• 2:23:34Speaker 01

  That chick. That's not Erica Kirk though. She was a beauty pageant lady.

• 2:23:37Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, but when you win beauty pageant, you suck dick part-time, so knock it part-time.

• 2:23:43Speaker 01

  I'll tell you what, she's definitely an odd lady.

• 2:23:45Speaker 03

  Yeah, no, something's not right now.

• 2:23:47Speaker 05

  Have you seen those, those conventions where there's fireworks and she's coming out?

• 2:23:50Speaker 01

  It's crazy. It's real weird. It's real weird. It's real weird. And didn't she get some high-level government position?

• 2:23:57Speaker 05

  Yeah. Didn't they just?

• 2:23:58Speaker 03

  Yeah, they gave her like this fucking.

• 2:24:00Speaker 05

  Trump did, right?

• 2:24:01Speaker 03

  Yeah, head of something.

• 2:24:02Speaker 01

  She's like head of CIA or something. Makes me wonder like, man, what if I can get me one of them positions?

• 2:24:09Speaker 03

  You gotta shoot your wife on TV and shit.

• 2:24:11Speaker 01

  No.

• 2:24:15Speaker 05

  This is Joe Savage.

• 2:24:19Speaker 01

  Hire!

• 2:24:20Speaker 03

  Why don't you take some more of these smell talks?

• 2:24:22Speaker 01

  Get your mind right, son.

• 2:24:26Speaker 01

  Get your mind right. Something wrong with you.

• 2:24:28Speaker 05

  Oh shit.

• 2:24:29Speaker 01

  Something wrong with you, Joe, yes.

• 2:24:31Speaker 03

  Oh, that's what you love, man.

• 2:24:32Speaker 05

  You could one hundred percent get one of those jobs, Joe.

• 2:24:35Speaker 01

  I know. I'm thinking of which one I want.

• 2:24:38Speaker 01

  I wanna be right, Pete Hegseth's sidekick.

• 2:24:44Speaker 05

  Was it Department of War?

• 2:24:46Speaker 01

  That's what they call it now.

• 2:24:47Speaker 05

  So gangster.

• 2:24:48Speaker 01

  It used to be the, well, I think it was originally Department of War and then became Department of Defense.

• 2:24:52Speaker 05

  Once Biden came in.

• 2:24:53Speaker 01

  Hand it over to him, Joe.

• 2:24:56Speaker 01

  Tremendous. No, I think it was a while ago they changed it to the Department of Defense. I thought Biden's team did it. And Trump was like, well, it sounds better.

• 2:25:04Speaker 04

  Your Trump is pretty good, dude.

• 2:25:05Speaker 01

  It's not that good. It's definitely not good right now.

• 2:25:08Speaker 04

  Imagine, imagine, you know what I want to tell Shane Gillis, because he does the best Trump.

• 2:25:11Speaker 01

  Oh, he's the best.

• 2:25:11Speaker 04

  Do you know, isn't it a trip that Trump has never had a drink of alcohol?

• 2:25:16Speaker 01

  Yeah, well, he had a brother that was like really bad.

• 2:25:19Speaker 04

  Imagine, imagine Trump a drunk.

• 2:25:22Speaker 01

  Oh, my God.

• 2:25:23Speaker 04

  Drunk Trump.

• 2:25:24Speaker 01

  He doesn't need it. Yeah, he could do it. I can't, but Shane could. You could do it. Drunk Trump. And they said, I'll stop this war in 24 hours. Remember he said?

• 2:25:33Speaker 04

  No one's the best at stopping wars. Give me three hours. I might be the best.

• 2:25:38Speaker 01

  I might be the best. Give me two hours, I'll stop this war.

• 2:25:42Speaker 04

  I wish I could do Trump.

• 2:25:43Speaker 01

  He said it's almost over. Well, I hope he's right. Me too. I hope he's right. Listen, if they can somehow or another bring peace to Iran, I mean, it's unrealistic, right? It's never happened before. Never been a regime, regime change war that worked out great. That's what I'm saying. We've done this before. How did it turn out? It's never worked out great. But don't you think it's about the oil, right? Because they supply all the oil to China.

• 2:26:04Speaker 04

  It's about the oil. I think they, they want you to think it's about the oil. It's about the central banks. It's not about the oil. Don't give a fuck about the oil. There's oil everywhere. There's oil everywhere.

• 2:26:14Speaker 01

  There's also, these guys want to start an Islamic caliphate. And they are states, the largest state-sponsored terrorism. Yes, comes out of there. Yeah. Yeah, they're terrible people.

• 2:26:22Speaker 04

  He's funding it.

• 2:26:23Speaker 01

  And well, it's a lot of it like when Biden freed up like something like $6 billion, they, that was like right before October 7. It's a lot of billions. There's Patty. Look at him. He's about 250 right now. Love me some Patty. That dude knows how to live. In between fights, he lives. He's, have you had him in here? No. That dude, he just has it. He has that fucking it factor. Well, he's also a very smart guy. Correct. You know? And I guarantee you that Justin fight could be a big wake up call. He'll come back and

• 2:26:51Speaker 05

  Oh yeah, no he's talented. How did that fight end?

• 2:26:54Speaker 01

  Justin just beat his ass.

• 2:26:55Speaker 05

  Justin took over. Decision?

• 2:26:57Speaker 01

  Yeah, but he

• 2:26:58Speaker 05

  He fucked him up.

• 2:26:59Speaker 01

  He beat his ass.

• 2:27:00Speaker 05

  But he did poke him in the eyes.

• 2:27:01Speaker 01

  He did. He did poke him in the eyes.

• 2:27:02Speaker 05

  And hit him in the nuts.

• 2:27:03Speaker 01

  He did hit him in the nuts. Yeah. That is a problem.

• 2:27:06Speaker 05

  Are you

• 2:27:06Speaker 01

  I'm of a belief, yeah, I use these Alps. Shout out to Tucker.

• 2:27:11Speaker 05

  Is that a I love, is that a You need to get on these black belt Tobacco pat pouch?

• 2:27:15Speaker 01

  Yeah, nicotine.

• 2:27:16Speaker 05

  Yeah, I had one of those last night, dog.

• 2:27:18Speaker 03

  Speaking of this shit, I was gonna tell you last night.

• 2:27:20Speaker 05

  What'd you want to tell me last night?

• 2:27:21Speaker 03

  That your club is really becoming, I had a lot of fun this time, bro.

• 2:27:26Speaker 01

  Well, it was beautiful watching you Thursday night.

• 2:27:28Speaker 03

  I had a really good

• 2:27:29Speaker 05

  Joey, come home now. I'm home now.

• 2:27:30Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:27:31Speaker 03

  My, I had a rough five years and I'm home now.

• 2:27:34Speaker 01

  Oh, you looked it on stage. And that crowd was a Joey Diaz crowd. They were there to see him. It was, I just sat and watched.

• 2:27:39Speaker 03

  I wanted to do

• 2:27:40Speaker 01

  Went and sat in the balcony. I was like, this makes me so happy.

• 2:27:42Speaker 03

  Yeah, I'm gonna do like two nights next time, but only seven o'clock shows.

• 2:27:46Speaker 01

  Bro.

• 2:27:47Speaker 03

  Late show, I gotta be downstairs partying at Missy's.

• 2:27:49Speaker 01

  Those are different animals. The late shows, they're fun. I like doing late shows every now and then. They're fun, but they're tired. These people have been up all day.

• 2:27:57Speaker 03

  I can't.

• 2:27:57Speaker 01

  Well, it's not us.

• 2:27:59Speaker 03

  No.

• 2:27:59Speaker 01

  No, I'm not worried about being tired. I sleep, you know.

• 2:28:01Speaker 03

  But I wanna be

• 2:28:02Speaker 01

  But it's like the people, they worked all day. They worked all day. They got off work at five. They probably went to dinner, had a few drinks. Oh, we're gonna go see Joey Diaz tonight. It's a 10 o'clock show. That's five hours after you get off work. And then you gotta get up at seven.

• 2:28:15Speaker 05

  Yeah, it's tough.

• 2:28:16Speaker 03

  No, no, no.

• 2:28:17Speaker 01

  Here we go. Laron, let's go.

• 2:28:19Speaker 05

  This could be another decision.

• 2:28:20Speaker 01

  It might be, or Laron might catch him coming in, cause Laron is so slick.

• 2:28:24Speaker 05

  What's his specialty?

• 2:28:24Speaker 01

  Oh, he's

• 2:28:25Speaker 05

  He's a motherfucker.

• 2:28:27Speaker 01

  Bitchish striker. He can do everything, dude.

• 2:28:30Speaker 05

  Is he a black belt? Probably not, but Mosar is a monster wrestler, like The guy is fine. Yeah, it's gonna be trouble for him. He's undefeated. Yeah, it's gonna be Where's he from? Okay, oh, so he's He's from Russia.

• 2:28:40Speaker 01

  Russia. And he'd do 1500 pushups in an hour.

• 2:28:43Speaker 05

  I call bullshit, but um

• 2:28:45Speaker 01

  What's the most pushups you've ever done in a row?

• 2:28:47Speaker 05

  I don't know. I could, I mean, I don't know. My son asked me to do 100. I knocked him. If it's 100, I don't know.

• 2:28:52Speaker 01

  You did 100 in a row?

• 2:28:53Speaker 05

  Oh, yeah. Wow, that's a lot.

• 2:28:55Speaker 01

  That's crazy.

• 2:28:55Speaker 05

  I could do

• 2:28:56Speaker 01

  Really? I did 75. I gassed out at 75.

• 2:28:58Speaker 05

  Really?

• 2:28:58Speaker 01

  Yeah. I did it on the show. Me and Burt Kreischer had a little competition.

• 2:29:02Speaker 05

  How many could he do?

• 2:29:03Speaker 01

  Not that much. I think it was 35. He, I told him I could do, whatever he did, I could do double.

• 2:29:08Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:29:08Speaker 01

  I think he did like 30 something.

• 2:29:10Speaker 02

  World record is 1575 in 60 minutes. So he's doing that every week.

• 2:29:14Speaker 05

  Damn.

• 2:29:15Speaker 01

  But he's doing it in an hour.

• 2:29:17Speaker 05

  Are we still buying it?

• 2:29:17Speaker 02

  That's what the record is.

• 2:29:18Speaker 05

  That's the, the record's in an hour, Joe.

• 2:29:20Speaker 01

  Oh, the record's in an hour?

• 2:29:21Speaker 05

  But again, how many minutes?

• 2:29:22Speaker 01

  Oh, but he might be. Six minutes. I was like, that's crazy.

• 2:29:25Speaker 05

  But Joe, to your point, he might not be doing like full extension. He might just be going pumping.

• 2:29:29Speaker 01

  Right, right, right.

• 2:29:30Speaker 05

  Which is still tough.

• 2:29:31Speaker 01

  Oh, it's still hard, but like if you're just doing this, like some guys just do this.

• 2:29:35Speaker 05

  Yeah, way easier.

• 2:29:35Speaker 01

  They really move only like six or seven inches.

• 2:29:37Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:29:38Speaker 01

  You ever see, uh, Cam Haynes' son when he won the world chin up championship? Some other cat came along and beat it by a thousand.

• 2:29:45Speaker 05

  What the fuck?

• 2:29:46Speaker 01

  Now they're in like eleven thousand, twelve thousand in twenty-four hours.

• 2:29:50Speaker 05

  What the fuck?

• 2:29:51Speaker 01

  Bro, these guys, their hands at the end of it are just meat. It's just bloody meat. They tear all the fucking skin off their hand.

• 2:29:58Speaker 05

  Oh, but what I was gonna say about Murphy's, uh...

• 2:30:00Speaker 02

  Twelve thou- someone just did twelve thousand.

• 2:30:02Speaker 05

  Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

• 2:30:03Speaker 02

  Truitt did ten thousand.

• 2:30:05Speaker 05

  Yeah, then another cat from Australia beat it.

• 2:30:06Speaker 02

  Eleven thousand, seven hundred.

• 2:30:07Speaker 05

  And then this new cat beat that.

• 2:30:09Speaker 01

  That's so insane.

• 2:30:10Speaker 02

  Twelve thousand, three hundred, well, one, two, three, four, five.

• 2:30:11Speaker 01

  Dude, it was a big deal when Goggins did four thousand. Everybody's like, no one's gonna beat that.

• 2:30:15Speaker 05

  These motherfuckers.

• 2:30:16Speaker 01

  He did like four thousand, nine hundred or something. And then Truitt beat that, and then a dude beat him, and then he beat that.

• 2:30:22Speaker 05

  That's wild.

• 2:30:23Speaker 01

  They're just going after each other back and forth. But the thing is, Truitt is a big guy. He's not as small as some of these guys. Well, he's like one eighty something, you know?

• 2:30:32Speaker 05

  He's very big for doing that.

• 2:30:33Speaker 01

  And jacked, or even when he runs marathons, he's way bigger than these marathon runners.

• 2:30:37Speaker 05

  Cause how tall is he?

• 2:30:38Speaker 01

  Probably five eleven, I think.

• 2:30:40Speaker 05

  Cause, cause Cam was, I mean, cause Cam goes so far distance, it made sense, cause when I saw him, I was like, oh, he's smaller than I thought. But then in my head, I'm like, this guy, he's fucking running for.

• 2:30:49Speaker 01

  Well, Cam got to like one eighty-five at one point, but you, you just, it's pounding on your joints. He got big just from lifting.

• 2:30:55Speaker 05

  Dude, Cam sent me this hat. It's my favorite fucking hat, man. It is so goddamn good. It has American flag on the back. It's like a net and the front's canvas is, uh, what's his slogan?

• 2:31:05Speaker 01

  Keep hammering.

• 2:31:06Speaker 05

  Yeah, it says, keep hammering. Bro? My son fucking steals it all the time. But you know, so Murphy before he got to UFC, got shot in the fucking face and then the neck. You ever heard about this?

• 2:31:16Speaker 01

  No.

• 2:31:17Speaker 05

  He, he was involved probably some gang activities, coming out of a barber shop, some dude shot him in the face. He still has metal in his tongue currently, metal in his tongue, and he got shot in the neck, survived.

• 2:31:26Speaker 01

  Metal in his tongue? That's crazy.

• 2:31:28Speaker 05

  Isn't that crazy? And he won't talk about it.

• 2:31:30Speaker 01

  Joey, imagine how he eats pussy?

• 2:31:33Speaker 05

  And, and he won't talk, when they, when they ask him, they go, uh, was it gang? Like, what did the guy shoot you? He goes, ah, I don't talk about that.

• 2:31:39Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 2:31:39Speaker 05

  It's just some gangster shit.

• 2:31:42Speaker 01

  Lot of stabbings in England, man.

• 2:31:43Speaker 05

  Yeah, that's what I'm surprised shooting, a lot of stabbing.

• 2:31:45Speaker 01

  Well, there's a lot of rough customers in England, man. A lot of fucking history. That London shoot boxing, that, that, uh,

• 2:31:52Speaker 05

  Oh, bro.

• 2:31:52Speaker 01

  That team, man, bro.

• 2:31:53Speaker 05

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:31:54Speaker 01

  Animals.

• 2:31:55Speaker 05

  Wall Slayer?

• 2:31:55Speaker 01

  Lee Murray days.

• 2:31:57Speaker 05

  Dude, Lee Murray, they're doing a movie on Lee Murray.

• 2:31:59Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah? Who's doing it?

• 2:32:00Speaker 05

  I forget, but it's coming out. It might be.

• 2:32:02Speaker 01

  It's Guy Ritchie.

• 2:32:04Speaker 05

  Fuck, yeah.

• 2:32:04Speaker 01

  It has to be.

• 2:32:05Speaker 05

  Man, he's Robin Banks?

• 2:32:06Speaker 01

  I know, it has to be Guy Ritchie.

• 2:32:07Speaker 05

  Has to be.

• 2:32:08Speaker 01

  Has to be. I hope it's Guy Ritchie. Bro, that Pico knockout was bananas. Pico's fighting soon. I think he's fighting in Miami.

• 2:32:16Speaker 05

  And he, and it's, uh, oh, it's, uh, Pit Bull. Bellator on Bellator.

• 2:32:20Speaker 01

  Ooh.

• 2:32:21Speaker 05

  Loser goes home.

• 2:32:22Speaker 01

  Yeah, man.

• 2:32:23Speaker 05

  Forever.

• 2:32:23Speaker 01

  At least Pico waited quite a while after the KO, cause that was a bad one.

• 2:32:27Speaker 05

  Bad.

• 2:32:28Speaker 01

  That was a bad, he was out cold for a while.

• 2:32:30Speaker 05

  Well, he's just an animal. Jackson now, who's trying to pull the reins back, cause he's so skilled, he's just too fucking aggressive.

• 2:32:37Speaker 01

  I mean, I always harp on Farah Sahabi, but I think that's the motherfucker.

• 2:32:40Speaker 05

  I think Nixick.

• 2:32:42Speaker 01

  Nixick too.

• 2:32:43Speaker 05

  That motherfucker's bad.

• 2:32:44Speaker 01

  He's a bad motherfucker too, but like Farah Sahabi, I think he's got.

• 2:32:47Speaker 02

  Documentary that came out about it.

• 2:32:49Speaker 05

  About Lee Murray?

• 2:32:49Speaker 02

  Years ago. It seems like semi-fictional, or not fiction, uh, dramatized.

• 2:32:53Speaker 05

  Hmm.

• 2:32:54Speaker 02

  Semi-not.

• 2:32:55Speaker 05

  Is it, so you're not a movie?

• 2:32:57Speaker 01

  This is an actual footage?

• 2:32:58Speaker 02

  This is not, this is not a movie. I didn't see if there was a movie.

• 2:33:00Speaker 01

  He was a wild dude.

• 2:33:01Speaker 05

  Pretty sure there's a movie coming out.

• 2:33:02Speaker 01

  You know, one of my favorite fights, when he fought Anderson Silva at Cage Rage.

• 2:33:06Speaker 05

  That's right.

• 2:33:07Speaker 01

  Ooh, that was Anderson, like, right when Anderson reached his prime. So Anderson fought in Pride, and he looked real good in Pride in some fights. And then in Cage Rage, he caught his groove. And you know when a guy just like catches that groove?

• 2:33:19Speaker 05

  You're fucked.

• 2:33:19Speaker 01

  So when he came over to UFC, and the first fight was Chris Leven, I remember that was like when Aubrey was betting on fights, I would go,

• 2:33:25Speaker 05

  Bet the house.

• 2:33:27Speaker 01

  On the Brazilian.

• 2:33:27Speaker 05

  Cause nobody knew Anderson.

• 2:33:28Speaker 01

  Bet the house.

• 2:33:30Speaker 05

  And he's lit.

• 2:33:31Speaker 01

  Oh, my god, bro, he was on fire.

• 2:33:33Speaker 05

  Cause you know, cause you know Anderson, when he fought in Pride, he was gonna retire, and Big Nog talked him in to continue.

• 2:33:39Speaker 01

  Crazy.

• 2:33:39Speaker 05

  How crazy is that?

• 2:33:40Speaker 01

  Isn't that crazy?

• 2:33:41Speaker 05

  There's, there's quite a few fighters that, uh,

• 2:33:44Speaker 04

  That, uh, especially in jiu-jitsu that come in, like Fab- Fabrizio Verdun, for instance.

• 2:33:49Speaker 01

  Oh my god.

• 2:33:49Speaker 04

  He came in, he didn't have any striking, so he was like, had mixed success.

• 2:33:53Speaker 01

  But do you know how he came in?

• 2:33:54Speaker 04

  No, no, no, but, but let me finish. He didn't have, he didn't have any, uh, like, uh, striking.

• 2:33:59Speaker 01

  No, none.

• 2:34:00Speaker 04

  And he was, he was fighting like Hoist in the early days, but he could've easily just said, fuck it, I'm just gonna teach jiu-jitsu, I don't need to do this shit, but Fabrizio stuck it out. And little by little, his striking became pretty dangerous and he started head kicking people.

• 2:34:15Speaker 01

  So good, bro.

• 2:34:16Speaker 04

  He, he could've easily after two or three fights said, you know what, I'll teach jiu-jitsu, I don't need to do this shit.

• 2:34:21Speaker 01

  But Fabrizio was from Travis Brown and flying side kicked him in the face. First move.

• 2:34:26Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:34:26Speaker 01

  Opening round, jumping, flying side kick to the face. Verdun was, was Krokop's jiu-jitsu coach, and Krokop's the one that got him in MMA.

• 2:34:33Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 2:34:34Speaker 01

  Bro, he's gotta be in the GOAT category, when you, when you. Top three, bubba. Cause you gotta think about, that guy tapped three all-time legends.

• 2:34:42Speaker 04

  Fedor, he triangled that motherfucker.

• 2:34:44Speaker 01

  Noguera and Kane. That's crazy. But remember when he tapped out Fedor, it wasn't like, you remember Fedor lost to Bigfoot Silva after that and we went on his losing streak? He was the first one to fucking do it. And he caught him in a triangle. Fedor had the scariest grounding power. Jiu-jitsu. Yeah.

• 2:35:00Speaker 04

  Yeah, Verdun's a motherfucker.

• 2:35:02Speaker 01

  Minotoro could get, uh, a Fedor in a triangle. Maybe best guard. And they fought a couple times, right? Maybe best guard in the history of the heavyweight division. Honorable mention Frank Mir. Verdun number one. Yeah.

• 2:35:14Speaker 04

  If Mason Fowler did MMA.

• 2:35:15Speaker 01

  Okay, but, but in MMA, I mean, you gotta, you gotta say Verdun, number one, best guard ever. But just for the Fedor fight. Yeah, a hundred percent. Crazy. Those legs, man, they locks on. But you gotta remember, you gotta remember Minotoro triangled, uh, Mark Coleman, remember that one? Yeah. That was huge. But he couldn't do it to Fedor, he couldn't do it to Fedor. It was prime Fedor when Fabrizio fought him. Prime Fedor. Fedor hadn't experienced any losses, he was fucking everybody up. Nobody thought he was a beast, dude. He had stopped Orlovsky, Orlovsky was tuning him up, remember that? Fucking him up and then goes for his flying knee, like a fucking idiot. Threw himself in the air and he got caught with a perfect overhand punch. My brother. Yo. I gotta get out of here. Where you going? I got a 730. How dare you? I know. You son of a bitch. If they cancel me, then I'll be back.

• 2:35:59Speaker 01

  Yeah, you should probably should, cause the, the TSA is still fucked up. I heard it's bullshit, dawg. Did you hear that Elon Musk, he offered to pay for all the government workers, he said he would, he would. Figure out

• 2:36:10Speaker 05

  They won't let him, right?

• 2:36:10Speaker 01

  I don't know. He said, but he offered it. He offered it on X. He said, I offer to pay for all these people that are working.

• 2:36:16Speaker 05

  From the government, so it puts pressure on, you know?

• 2:36:18Speaker 01

  It's nuts. It's nuts. These motherfuckers play with our lives. Like, that should be open no matter what. It's spring break. People are going on vacation.

• 2:36:26Speaker 05

  Thing about the TSA workers, they're not ballin' and they don't get fucking paid.

• 2:36:29Speaker 01

  Exactly. Don't you have like supplemental money, all the money you spend on USAID? Doing transgender monkey studies?

• 2:36:36Speaker 05

  How come you don't have?

• 2:36:36Speaker 01

  The war?

• 2:36:37Speaker 05

  How mu- how mu- billion?

• 2:36:38Speaker 01

  How come, how come you don't have money to keep the fucking airports open? That's crazy.

• 2:36:41Speaker 05

  And these are, these are blue collar, nine to five people.

• 2:36:44Speaker 01

  LaRone!

• 2:36:45Speaker 03

  I had a Skype thing today and he cancelled this morning.

• 2:36:48Speaker 05

  You know what?

• 2:36:49Speaker 01

  Skype?

• 2:36:50Speaker 03

  People walk you straight.

• 2:36:51Speaker 05

  Oh, yeah?

• 2:36:52Speaker 03

  He has a great service.

• 2:36:52Speaker 05

  He cancelled?

• 2:36:53Speaker 03

  He cancelled.

• 2:36:54Speaker 01

  Why'd he cancel?

• 2:36:55Speaker 05

  Couldn't do it?

• 2:36:57Speaker 01

  Ah.

• 2:36:58Speaker 03

  Cause I was thinking, I'm watching this and

• 2:37:00Speaker 01

  Alright.

• 2:37:00Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:37:02Speaker 05

  You should be fine with TSA, it's all fucking propaganda.

• 2:37:04Speaker 01

  I love you, brother.

• 2:37:05Speaker 05

  I love you, Joey.

• 2:37:06Speaker 03

  On the flip side, I'll be in touch with your wife.

• 2:37:09Speaker 01

  My love.

• 2:37:09Speaker 03

  Get back here in a couple of weeks, okay? Six weeks, I'm sure. I love you. I love you. Thank you. Love you too. Alright, guys. Love you now. I love you motherfucker.

• 2:37:17Speaker 01

  Travel safe.

• 2:37:18Speaker 03

  Got it. Bike is banging, stay black.

• 2:37:21Speaker 05

  Go, go. Stay black. Yes, sir. Love ya.

• 2:37:25Speaker 01

  Alright, here we go.

• 2:37:26Speaker 05

  You got it, brother.

• 2:37:27Speaker 01

  Main event time. Is Ivelowev gotten into the octagon yet or is he walking now?

• 2:37:31Speaker 05

  No, he's walking right now.

• 2:37:32Speaker 01

  Interesting that Ivelowev walked out second. I wonder how they made that decision because he's a England guy.

• 2:37:38Speaker 05

  That is weird.

• 2:37:39Speaker 01

  Yeah, and LaRone's undefeated too. Maybe. Must be.

• 2:37:43Speaker 05

  And then sometimes just depends who walks based off the, the

• 2:37:46Speaker 01

  They might have flipped a coin. Who fucking knows?

• 2:37:48Speaker 05

  But in England?

• 2:37:49Speaker 02

  He's the number one contender.

• 2:37:50Speaker 05

  Yeah, he's ranked number one.

• 2:37:52Speaker 02

  One versus three.

• 2:37:53Speaker 01

  Imagine that and he sees Diego get that second fight. He's like, this is, what is the

• 2:37:58Speaker 05

  UFC, listen, I like Diego, but the UFC pushes him like a motherfucker.

• 2:38:02Speaker 01

  He's a bad motherfucker, but give the guy a chance to like figure out how to beat Volkanovski.

• 2:38:07Speaker 05

  It was way too soon.

• 2:38:08Speaker 01

  It's way too soon. Volkanovski knows what to do with him.

• 2:38:11Speaker 05

  He fought exactly the fucking same, didn't cut off the octagon. What the fuck are you doing?

• 2:38:15Speaker 01

  He could. I don't think he developed more skill.

• 2:38:18Speaker 05

  There's no way. In that amount of time. So what?

• 2:38:20Speaker 01

  And Volkanovski was super confident going into that fight.

• 2:38:22Speaker 05

  You wanna know the smart thing? That no fighter's ever gonna do this, cause you get a title shot, you gotta jump at it, but his team should've said, mm-mm, mm-mm, let's wait.

• 2:38:29Speaker 01

  Is Khabib gonna be in the student's corner?

• 2:38:32Speaker 05

  No.

• 2:38:32Speaker 01

  No, no, no, no.

• 2:38:34Speaker 05

  That team.

• 2:38:34Speaker 01

  They're not from the same team. Oh, they're not from the same team? He's, he's a problem, though. Dude is a problem when it comes to grappling. He looks like a problem. And he's a physical specimen.

• 2:38:42Speaker 05

  And if he has, like, his boxing's not terrible. Like, his striking's better than, like, Khabib's.

• 2:38:46Speaker 01

  Right, but you ain't gonna see none of that with Laron. Laron is too sharp. Oh. Too sharp. Laron is super. So this guy's gonna try to take him down? A hundred percent. Yeah. I would imagine, I would imagine one hundred percent he tries to take him down. Because Laron catches people coming in, too. He's sneaky. Like, he's real.

• 2:39:04Speaker 05

  Laron's a problem.

• 2:39:05Speaker 01

  Real fast, real tactical, 145. 145 with arms like that? Jesus Christ. He's gotta be 160 right now.

• 2:39:14Speaker 05

  He's a problem.

• 2:39:14Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:39:15Speaker 05

  But whoever wins this fight, it's such an interesting matchup for Volkanovski, too.

• 2:39:18Speaker 01

  But now, when I look at him, I believe that 1500 push-ups.

• 2:39:21Speaker 05

  I still don't, but that's fine.

• 2:39:23Speaker 01

  Look at the fucking build on this cat.

• 2:39:25Speaker 05

  You don't believe that he can do 1500 in a day?

• 2:39:27Speaker 02

  I was trying to compare other people. Mayweather was claiming, which I don't know if it was 1300 in a day. So he would do sets of 100.

• 2:39:35Speaker 01

  Right, but he doesn't look anything like this.

• 2:39:36Speaker 02

  Sure, sure, sure.

• 2:39:37Speaker 05

  But if he's knocking out, like, a

• 2:39:39Speaker 01

  If he does 1300, I mean, this dude is like, he is super. You do like 100 at a time or something?

• 2:39:44Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:39:45Speaker 01

  Right?

• 2:39:46Speaker 02

  Some people were saying you'd have to do 60 consecutive sets of 25, which is one every two and a half seconds for an hour straight.

• 2:39:54Speaker 01

  25 every two and a half seconds?

• 2:39:57Speaker 02

  One push-up every two and a half seconds.

• 2:39:58Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 2:39:59Speaker 02

  Set for 25.

• 2:40:01Speaker 02

  You have a minute to do 25.

• 2:40:02Speaker 01

  But how would you break it down with sets of rest and all that?

• 2:40:05Speaker 02

  You don't have

• 2:40:06Speaker 05

  You have to do it for 60 minutes straight.

• 2:40:08Speaker 02

  You don't get rest? A minute to do 25.

• 2:40:09Speaker 05

  No, there's no rest.

• 2:40:10Speaker 01

  So you do 25 quick. He could do that easy. And then, how much time do you break?

• 2:40:13Speaker 02

  You have to start, you have to start every minute, 25.

• 2:40:17Speaker 01

  So a minute break? So how much time would it take him to do 25? So if you do twenty-five in twenty-five seconds, that's easy. He could do that. Easy.

• 2:40:27Speaker 05

  And then you rest the rest of that minute?

• 2:40:29Speaker 01

  Rest the rest of the thirty seconds and you bang out another twenty-five. It is possible.

• 2:40:32Speaker 02

  I don't know about easy.

• 2:40:34Speaker 01

  No, not easy.

• 2:40:35Speaker 05

  That minute, that minute thirty-five is getting scary.

• 2:40:39Speaker 01

  Twenty-five in thirty seconds is easy.

• 2:40:42Speaker 05

  To start.

• 2:40:42Speaker 01

  Yeah, you could do that.

• 2:40:43Speaker 05

  But when you're about forty minutes in?

• 2:40:45Speaker 01

  But a guy in that kind of shape could bang out twenty-five in thirty seconds for the first, you know, X amount of sets. The problem is you get to like the thirtieth set.

• 2:40:55Speaker 05

  Thirty-five, forty, forty-five.

• 2:40:56Speaker 01

  That's crazy.

• 2:40:57Speaker 02

  He just said he was doing, it was a thousand to start. It was a, a different boxer.

• 2:41:01Speaker 05

  We gotta see a video of it.

• 2:41:03Speaker 02

  And I, there's no video of even the other guy doing it.

• 2:41:05Speaker 05

  He should upload it.

• 2:41:06Speaker 01

  Who's the other guy?

• 2:41:07Speaker 02

  Uh, I had it here, hold on.

• 2:41:12Speaker 02

  Co- Costa Zuu.

• 2:41:13Speaker 01

  Oh, Costa Zuu.

• 2:41:14Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:41:15Speaker 05

  Costa Zuu, the boxer?

• 2:41:16Speaker 02

  Yeah. That's who he was taking from. He would do a thousand a day and he was copying his.

• 2:41:21Speaker 01

  Interesting.

• 2:41:22Speaker 05

  Maybe, maybe he does. Those Russians are built there. No, a thousand a day, that sounds doable.

• 2:41:28Speaker 02

  It's a thousand in an hour, still, but.

• 2:41:30Speaker 01

  It is crazy, though. I wanna see it.

• 2:41:32Speaker 02

  And then jump ropes after that.

• 2:41:34Speaker 01

  But he said fifteen hundred, though.

• 2:41:35Speaker 02

  Yeah, and the rest of it's jump, jump roping after that.

• 2:41:38Speaker 05

  Thousand I can fuck with, fifteen hundred, so that, that's where I'm like, alright, but I, I'm not saying you can't, I wanna see it.

• 2:41:43Speaker 02

  Stewart's also not saying this, uh, these quotes were coming out from his fight like, earlier in the year, like a year ago, and they're getting reposted all again right now, and like, no one's gonna film him doing it.

• 2:41:53Speaker 01

  Jumping rope is oddly hard, cuz it's very easy. Look at him, bro, how jacked he is. That guy.

• 2:42:01Speaker 02

  That's got some extra tendons.

• 2:42:02Speaker 01

  That dude looks preposterous.

• 2:42:04Speaker 05

  Look at that shit going on in between his tits.

• 2:42:06Speaker 01

  Hmm. That's striations, son.

• 2:42:10Speaker 05

  Yeah, that guy's fucking jacked.

• 2:42:12Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:42:12Speaker 02

  We had no video of it.

• 2:42:13Speaker 01

  He's a vicious grappler.

• 2:42:16Speaker 02

  Someone tried to do it and got up to seven thirty.

• 2:42:18Speaker 01

  But I mean, how many times has he stopped guys? Even if he did fifteen hundred. That's his, that's, that's his problem, why they're delaying his title shot, cause like the John Fitch shit. Why have decisions then? Fifteen hundred and ninety minutes. Think about Piotr Jan and Murab Dhabish Willie, decision, fucking amazing fight. Fucking amazing. But that's, but that's not this. Right, that's what I'm saying. Not exciting. The decision isn't the problem. It's the way he's winning the decision. Striking is the problem. Everybody wants people to strike. So why not have a Muay Thai league? Tell me. Muay Thai with MMA gloves. They, I mean, Zuffa boxing is this thing that they're doing? Yeah. I've been trying to sell Dana on this, he, he don't listen to me. Yeah, he's like, get out of here. I tried to sell Dana on combat jiu-jitsu.

• 2:43:03Speaker 01

  He's like, you're crazy. As soon as I tell him, he's like, yeah. He said, me some good fights. So I sent him every good fight that I find. Every good fight that I find. Wild kickboxing fights. They still not buy it? Masasaki Nori, uh, you know, I sent him all these fucking cats. All these cats, fucking people up over there in one. I'm like, look, man, this is exciting. Like, everybody loves the stand-up fights. These guys have to stand up. Yeah, that's all they do. They have to. No one's having boring fights over there. No.

• 2:43:31Speaker 01

  It's like, somebody's missing out. Somebody should do it. Somebody should have, like, a strike, other than one, like, some American-based promoter. Should have, like, a big. It's just weird. Striking. Glory, what about that? Glory was kickboxing. They're still kickboxing. They had that for a while. Isn't that what you're talking about? Yeah, but I'm talking about with MMA gloves, uh, Muay Thai. Yeah. I wa, I mean, you could do kickboxing. I, I'm down for that, too. That's exciting, too. It's never been big over here, though. Yeah, but it's just because they didn't sell it right. It's not that it's not exciting. Even those little tiny dudes were fucking awesome to watch. There's bare knuckle boxing. Here we go. Here we go. Well, Jorge Masvidal's promotion. I'm the commentator. Oh. Yeah, I go to Dominican Republic, April. Oh, boy.

• 2:44:12Speaker 01

  Have fun. Here we go. Round one. Here we go.

• 2:44:18Speaker 01

  Let's see.

• 2:44:20Speaker 01

  Hmm.

• 2:44:22Speaker 05

  Big hat, big hat.

• 2:44:24Speaker 01

  The fucking back on that cat.

• 2:44:25Speaker 05

  Yeah, he is jacked. Maybe he can't do fucking 3000 push-ups.

• 2:44:29Speaker 01

  Here we go.

• 2:44:32Speaker 01

  This is interesting because you do not want to grapple with Yevloev and you do not want to strike with Lloron.

• 2:44:37Speaker 05

  Such a contrast in styles and both undefeated. Such a good fight.

• 2:44:42Speaker 01

  Bro, this better not be a stinker. If this is a stinker too, oof.

• 2:44:46Speaker 05

  Yeah, it's gonna be tough.

• 2:44:47Speaker 01

  Oof.

• 2:44:49Speaker 05

  I wonder how that London crowd is. Usually they're pretty bonkers.

• 2:44:52Speaker 01

  Oh, they're probably hammered by now.

• 2:44:53Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:44:54Speaker 01

  What time is it now?

• 2:44:55Speaker 05

  Well, they're six hours ahead, right?

• 2:44:56Speaker 01

  Yeah, so it's 11. It's almost midnight.

• 2:44:59Speaker 05

  Black dude is English? Yes. And you missed Eddie. He got shot in the neck and in the face.

• 2:45:06Speaker 05

  On the street? Yep.

• 2:45:09Speaker 01

  What caliber?

• 2:45:10Speaker 05

  No clue.

• 2:45:14Speaker 01

  Seems crazy.

• 2:45:15Speaker 05

  Crazy.

• 2:45:18Speaker 05

  I'm surprised, uh, Yevloev hasn't shot yet.

• 2:45:21Speaker 01

  Oof.

• 2:45:27Speaker 05

  You think you can get him to the cage and shoot?

• 2:45:29Speaker 01

  He's definitely gonna eventually try.

• 2:45:30Speaker 05

  Oh, he's trying to strike with, he's, uh, he's trying to get him to commit and then he's gonna shoot.

• 2:45:34Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:45:34Speaker 05

  That's all he's doing.

• 2:45:36Speaker 01

  Well, he's still good at striking.

• 2:45:38Speaker 05

  Yeah, that's the thing. Striking's not like, you know, like Khabib back in the day. This motherfucking can kind of strike. He's had fights where he just strikes. It's a decision, but...

• 2:45:50Speaker 05

  It would be, it would be fun to see Volkanovski try and figure this out.

• 2:45:54Speaker 01

  Yeah, it would be. Very interesting.

• 2:45:57Speaker 05

  Yeah, that's what I'm all about it. No way his dick's that big, right?

• 2:46:01Speaker 01

  They just don't, that's hilarious.

• 2:46:02Speaker 05

  That's a cop, right?

• 2:46:03Speaker 01

  They just don't want him to be the champ, you know, they just...

• 2:46:06Speaker 05

  No, we can't have that.

• 2:46:07Speaker 01

  They don't want a guy winning decisions to be the champ, and I think that's kind of crazy. I think whoever's the champ should be the champ.

• 2:46:12Speaker 05

  I know, but we're trying to do nubbies, buddy.

• 2:46:15Speaker 01

  I get it, but like, come on, what are we? Is this fighting with rankings and, I mean, is there...

• 2:46:21Speaker 05

  Joe?

• 2:46:21Speaker 01

  Skill sets and rules and judges?

• 2:46:24Speaker 05

  You're owned by TKO, which owns the WWE?

• 2:46:26Speaker 01

  Yeah, but stop. Let them fight. Fighting is fighting. Whoever is number one should get the title shot.

• 2:46:33Speaker 05

  Agree.

• 2:46:37Speaker 01

  I just think it has to be pure. If it's not pure, if it's subjective.

• 2:46:41Speaker 05

  I think the UFC has to be pure to stay on track.

• 2:46:44Speaker 01

  It should be pure. Oh, nice kick to the body by Ivelaev. That was nice. That's the problem with being not wanting to be taken down. Every time the guy moves forward, the real thing that you're worried about is the takedown and sometimes snipe, strikes sneak through because of that.

• 2:47:03Speaker 05

  I wonder how long Ivelaev's gonna entertain this though, bubba. You don't want to stay on here too long.

• 2:47:09Speaker 01

  You don't, but also Lloron has not been that successful.

• 2:47:12Speaker 05

  No, he hasn't.

• 2:47:13Speaker 01

  He hasn't done anything that hurt him or stopped his progress.

• 2:47:18Speaker 01

  And Ivelaev is the one pushing.

• 2:47:19Speaker 05

  He didn't give him the cage and then shoot.

• 2:47:21Speaker 01

  Maybe.

• 2:47:22Speaker 05

  He keeps going for that overhand.

• 2:47:24Speaker 01

  Yeah, he's looking for shots, man. He's given no indication that he's trying to grapple.

• 2:47:28Speaker 05

  Not yet.

• 2:47:28Speaker 04

  He's backing out of clinch range, you know? He gets clinched, but he backs out.

• 2:47:34Speaker 01

  It might be weird. Imagine if his strategy was to try to knock Lloron out.

• 2:47:38Speaker 05

  I hate that.

• 2:47:39Speaker 01

  Well, maybe. Well, maybe he's like, look, I gotta get some.

• 2:47:43Speaker 05

  I think he's trying to loosen him up. I think he's trying to loosen him up and then he'll start.

• 2:47:47Speaker 01

  It is five rounds.

• 2:47:48Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 2:47:51Speaker 05

  If a guy can do 15,000 pushups in 30 minutes, probably isn't too worried about gassing out.

• 2:47:56Speaker 01

  Right.

• 2:47:58Speaker 01

  Damn, though. His striking looks good.

• 2:48:00Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:48:01Speaker 01

  And the thing, that's the thing though with Lloron, like he's always worrying about the clinch and the takedown. It tightens up your striking.

• 2:48:06Speaker 05

  Ivelaev's about to fuck around and find out, though.

• 2:48:08Speaker 01

  He could.

• 2:48:09Speaker 04

  He got tagged right there.

• 2:48:10Speaker 05

  Yeah, he's about to find out. I bet he shoots soon. He's like, alright.

• 2:48:14Speaker 01

  Oh, that was a nice low kick right there.

• 2:48:16Speaker 05

  He's starting to find the timing. I'm gonna get the fuck out of here.

• 2:48:18Speaker 01

  Look, he checked that low kick, right?

• 2:48:22Speaker 01

  He looks good on his feet, man. I'm impressed.

• 2:48:25Speaker 05

  Ooh, right hook.

• 2:48:26Speaker 04

  Left.

• 2:48:30Speaker 05

  He can't play this game too much long.

• 2:48:32Speaker 01

  I don't know, man.

• 2:48:34Speaker 05

  Watch.

• 2:48:36Speaker 01

  But he's doing it different than Pico, right?

• 2:48:38Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 2:48:39Speaker 01

  He's like a lot of stutter steps.

• 2:48:40Speaker 05

  Pico is very reckless. Yeah, no feints, come speeding in.

• 2:48:43Speaker 01

  A lot of kicks.

• 2:48:43Speaker 05

  And Murphy goes, he said this in the pregame interview goes, pre-fight interview goes, I'm just gonna use aggression against him. He's gonna end up running into a shot. Like, Evilow is too smart for that. He's not like over committing.

• 2:48:55Speaker 01

  No, he's given a lot of looks.

• 2:48:57Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah, it's smart.

• 2:48:59Speaker 01

  Good check. Ooh, had an ankle there for a second.

• 2:49:04Speaker 05

  Good feint.

• 2:49:06Speaker 01

  Towards the end of the round.

• 2:49:07Speaker 05

  Oh, look at this, spinning backfist.

• 2:49:14Speaker 05

  You give that, you give that round, uh, Evilow?

• 2:49:18Speaker 01

  Well, he was pushing, right? You know, and it didn't, Lerone didn't land anything of significance. But it's like Evilow only lands at a couple of shots. He did land a good body shot.

• 2:49:27Speaker 05

  That's a tough one to score.

• 2:49:28Speaker 01

  Yeah, real tough.

• 2:49:34Speaker 01

  But the pressure that he must be getting to try to finish fights and strikes and strike with people.

• 2:49:39Speaker 05

  I wonder if those Russians give a fuck?

• 2:49:41Speaker 04

  Hey, wait a minute, is that Thiago Alves right there?

• 2:49:43Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:49:43Speaker 04

  He was just talking about.

• 2:49:44Speaker 05

  Yeah, well, Mike Brown's his coach. Trains at ADP.

• 2:49:48Speaker 01

  Damn.

• 2:49:49Speaker 05

  You think he's getting pressured, Joe?

• 2:49:51Speaker 01

  I mean, he must. He, he should have had a world title shot a long time ago.

• 2:49:55Speaker 05

  But he might be like, I don't give a fuck, I just keep winning.

• 2:49:57Speaker 01

  No, no, no, no, no. They all want the title.

• 2:49:59Speaker 05

  They would have gave him pressure fucking four fights ago. He does decision fights.

• 2:50:03Speaker 01

  Probably gotta be nuts.

• 2:50:04Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:50:04Speaker 01

  He's just trying to win, right? And he just tries to win however he can. And that's unfortunately his way of winning is.

• 2:50:11Speaker 05

  Well, think about it, Homsot got pressure in the DDP fight. He dominated him like, dude, come on, lay in prey.

• 2:50:17Speaker 01

  People hated it. People hated that fight.

• 2:50:19Speaker 05

  Shit, Charles got shit for the fucking.

• 2:50:21Speaker 01

  I know. People hated that fight. Even Dana talked shit about that fight.

• 2:50:25Speaker 05

  Which I can understa- I didn't, I appreciate, but I, I understand because when it's for the BMF title.

• 2:50:32Speaker 01

  What do you want him to do? Fight like an asshole? Come on, that's how you fight. That's how you fight.

• 2:50:36Speaker 05

  There's expectations on there. You know what I'm saying?

• 2:50:39Speaker 01

  It's just.

• 2:50:39Speaker 05

  Don't call BMF.

• 2:50:40Speaker 01

  Then it's just a fight. It's a fight. They're two bad motherfuckers. Charles was better. Period. That's the, that's the fight. I loved it. I enjoyed it. Uh, it doesn't have to all be exciting to me. I liked watching a guy being able to dominate a guy. And I liked watching Max defend. The fact that he was able to defend those chokes in the first round.

• 2:50:57Speaker 05

  Insane.

• 2:50:58Speaker 01

  Respect.

• 2:51:00Speaker 01

  You know, Max is a bad motherfucker dude.

• 2:51:02Speaker 05

  Oh, he's going to the best, brother.

• 2:51:03Speaker 01

  Kept trying till the end.

• 2:51:04Speaker 05

  They gave him his black belt after that.

• 2:51:06Speaker 01

  I know. Ooh, bro, Evil Love just got off a one-two and a nice potty kick. Little partially blocked, but the fact that he even kicking the arms like that.

• 2:51:17Speaker 01

  Cause Laron is not really hurting him, not getting him off of him. There was a nice right hand.

• 2:51:25Speaker 01

  But very defensive, right?

• 2:51:27Speaker 05

  Super defensive.

• 2:51:28Speaker 01

  Not really pulling that trigger, thinking that that shot is coming eventually.

• 2:51:31Speaker 05

  I'll tell you one thing worse than being a winner decision via wrestling is winning a decision via bullshit striking. If he hates that.

• 2:51:40Speaker 04

  I think, I think.

• 2:51:41Speaker 05

  He's getting the wrong info, dude.

• 2:51:42Speaker 04

  I think rounds where there's, where nobody did anything significant, it's just, it should be an automatic draw round, like. You shouldn't give anybody. You're like, how are you gonna win that round? You didn't do shit. Nobody did anything to draw. It's gotta be clear that someone landed some good shit.

• 2:51:58Speaker 01

  Laron had him up. Yeah, like, let's say like if less than forty strikes landed, the, the round is considered a draw.

• 2:52:04Speaker 04

  Yes, yeah.

• 2:52:05Speaker 01

  By each fighter.

• 2:52:05Speaker 05

  Hundred percent.

• 2:52:06Speaker 01

  And not forty, forty's too high.

• 2:52:08Speaker 04

  Nothing clean.

• 2:52:09Speaker 01

  You can fuck somebody up with forty strikes.

• 2:52:10Speaker 04

  Two dudes just dancing around.

• 2:52:12Speaker 05

  Less than ten.

• 2:52:12Speaker 04

  Nothing clean.

• 2:52:12Speaker 05

  Yeah, some fights like less than ten.

• 2:52:14Speaker 01

  Nganu and Derrick Lewis, that was crazy.

• 2:52:16Speaker 05

  There's a some, well, a ton of fights where you see like two super good strikes.

• 2:52:20Speaker 01

  Yeah, that fight. Oh, Evil Love with a good overhand right. He landed that. He landed that overhand right. Ooh, nice jab.

• 2:52:29Speaker 05

  But for Evil Love.

• 2:52:30Speaker 01

  Pressure on these guys right now is so big.

• 2:52:32Speaker 05

  Oh, dude, cause you know you get a tash on if you win, but for Evil Love, it's like you're getting this pressure. He, yeah, no one's telling you to strike with it. Like, the pressure would be get him down and look for submission.

• 2:52:43Speaker 01

  I think he's just showing that he could stand with him as well, and then eventually he's gonna get the opportunity. I mean, we're only in round two, right? And he hasn't even taken a shot.

• 2:52:53Speaker 05

  Hasn't even attempted a shot.

• 2:52:54Speaker 01

  Nice low. He got him in the calf there.

• 2:52:57Speaker 05

  Is he just trying to lure Murphy in, get his guard down, then shoot?

• 2:53:01Speaker 01

  I mean, for sure, for sure. He's trying to find an opening. I mean, it's gotta be part of the strategy, but it's also opening strikes to him because Laron is clearly worried about that takedown attempt.

• 2:53:14Speaker 05

  Leron usually throws some wild shit, but he hasn't yet.

• 2:53:17Speaker 01

  I know, he's spamming a lot of things. They aren't going anywhere.

• 2:53:19Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 2:53:20Speaker 01

  It's interesting. It's just like, he doesn't want that distance where Ivellev can possibly take him down.

• 2:53:27Speaker 05

  I feel like Volkanovski's on such a different level than these two. He does everything so fucking good.

• 2:53:33Speaker 01

  Looks like it now, but this is also because this is a really, really evenly matched, high stakes fight.

• 2:53:39Speaker 05

  Agree.

• 2:53:40Speaker 01

  It's a sneaky fight. Oh, nice kick to the body too. Ivellev's had a few of those. Look at that wheel kick. Oh, uppercut.

• 2:53:47Speaker 05

  Man, the takedown was there there.

• 2:53:49Speaker 01

  Bro, Ivellev is landing shots, man. I think he's winning this round.

• 2:53:54Speaker 05

  Yeah, definitely he's winning this round.

• 2:53:56Speaker 01

  And which is crazy because it's just striking.

• 2:53:58Speaker 05

  Yeah, what a wild concept.

• 2:54:00Speaker 01

  I know. Everybody thought that Leron was gonna have a giant advantage on the feet and it just doesn't look like that.

• 2:54:05Speaker 05

  I'm sure Leron thought that too. And now he's like, fuck.

• 2:54:08Speaker 01

  I know, you would never thought that Ivellev would be outstriking him.

• 2:54:13Speaker 01

  And it's also, look at that.

• 2:54:15Speaker 05

  Does he have any knockouts on his resume?

• 2:54:17Speaker 01

  Leron?

• 2:54:18Speaker 05

  No, no, no.

• 2:54:19Speaker 01

  Ivellev, uh, no sir, no.

• 2:54:20Speaker 05

  No, no knockouts.

• 2:54:22Speaker 01

  The decision's his thing. Doesn't mean he can't do it.

• 2:54:25Speaker 05

  No, if the opportunity's there, but it's not really his thing.

• 2:54:27Speaker 04

  He's not a good submission artist either? He just likes to?

• 2:54:30Speaker 01

  Oh, he is a good submission artist, but most of the time he wrestles fuck guys.

• 2:54:34Speaker 04

  Arm triangles?

• 2:54:35Speaker 01

  He, you know what? He just doesn't get a ton of finishes anywhere. In the UFC, I don't think he's had any.

• 2:54:40Speaker 05

  Uh, ooh.

• 2:54:41Speaker 04

  That's not good.

• 2:54:42Speaker 01

  No.

• 2:54:43Speaker 05

  How many UFC fights has he had?

• 2:54:45Speaker 01

  Well, he almost got tapped by Diego. Diego Lopez had him a couple of times.

• 2:54:48Speaker 05

  And who won that fight?

• 2:54:49Speaker 01

  He did, but I don't agree with it because I felt like Diego was the one that put him in danger. Those submission attempts need, they need to count for more.

• 2:54:57Speaker 02

  Prior to, he had...

• 2:54:59Speaker 01

  One KO by punches, rear naked choke, another rear naked choke, another rear naked choke.

• 2:55:05Speaker 05

  That's an M1.

• 2:55:06Speaker 01

  Another rear naked choke.

• 2:55:07Speaker 05

  But you see when he plays with the big boys, first UFC fight, decision, decision, all decisions. All fucking decisions. That's why the UFC's like, buddy, we can't.

• 2:55:16Speaker 01

  Hmm.

• 2:55:16Speaker 05

  We can't be having this, son.

• 2:55:18Speaker 04

  Okay, damn, all decisions.

• 2:55:19Speaker 05

  Yeah, but it's interesting because he's the one, look, he connects. He's the one moving forward.

• 2:55:24Speaker 04

  He beat Rafael Diaz by punches.

• 2:55:26Speaker 01

  Bro, he just cracked him again with an uppercut. He's getting the better of these exchanges. It's very interesting. Good round for Eve the web.

• 2:55:33Speaker 05

  Well, you wonder how much striking Murphy did because I'm sure the focus of the camp was takedown defense and wrestling and they get in there. And that's why I think fucked up Max Holloway too, because with Charles, he's probably like BMF. Which BMF?

• 2:55:46Speaker 01

  Really?

• 2:55:46Speaker 05

  I think so. Cause Max typically has pretty good takedown fists. I think he was like, yeah, we're fucking.

• 2:55:51Speaker 01

  I think Olivera is that good. I think he's that good. The way he was hoisting Max in the air and slamming him to the ground. He does that to a lot of people, man. He gets double underhooks on you. You're in a bad.

• 2:56:01Speaker 05

  He took down Chandler. Charles is a bad motherfucker. What do you do next with him?

• 2:56:06Speaker 01

  Fuck.

• 2:56:06Speaker 05

  You know what you do next? You do arm and Charles for five rounds. Cause if you remember when they fought, it was three. Armin beat him, but that last round.

• 2:56:13Speaker 01

  That was another one where I felt like you should have given it to Charles because Charles got near submissions a couple of times.

• 2:56:18Speaker 05

  And at the end.

• 2:56:19Speaker 01

  Armin didn't really have a position where he was almost winning. Charles almost won a couple of times in that fight.

• 2:56:23Speaker 05

  I want that rematch, five rounds.

• 2:56:25Speaker 01

  Ooh, I like that. I like that, but.

• 2:56:27Speaker 02

  Talking about fighting Connor.

• 2:56:28Speaker 01

  Connor got one over me. He's talking about coming back. I'm coming off a loss. I just want to cut weight. I don't want to cut weight. We could do it anyway. Just about getting it back. Okay.

• 2:56:36Speaker 05

  I'm saying.

• 2:56:37Speaker 01

  That's it. That's the fight. That's the fight. Two legends.

• 2:56:39Speaker 05

  That would be massive. No, no takedowns. 170, no weight cutting, no takedowns.

• 2:56:44Speaker 01

  I like it.

• 2:56:45Speaker 05

  BMF on the line.

• 2:56:45Speaker 01

  Let's go. Well, it wouldn't be on the line. It wouldn't be the BMF.

• 2:56:49Speaker 05

  Dude, the BMF isn't real. You know, like.

• 2:56:52Speaker 01

  You make a new BMF?

• 2:56:53Speaker 05

  Dude, The Rock made up the BMF.

• 2:56:55Speaker 01

  Uh.

• 2:56:56Speaker 05

  He invented it?

• 2:56:57Speaker 01

  No.

• 2:56:57Speaker 05

  Yeah, he did. No, he did. Yes, he did. Look it up.

• 2:57:01Speaker 01

  No.

• 2:57:01Speaker 05

  The Rock invented it.

• 2:57:02Speaker 01

  It to him. Is it his idea? I'm pretty sure he's like BMF.

• 2:57:06Speaker 05

  Yeah, I'm pretty sure means you don't know.

• 2:57:08Speaker 01

  Look it up, Kevin. Pretty sure the fucking actor, The Rock made a BMF. That's hilarious.

• 2:57:16Speaker 05

  Yeah, BMF is a weird one. The good thing is the boys still get paid like in this title fight though. That's the good thing about BMF. But that's why there should be more weight classes. So guys can make more money.

• 2:57:25Speaker 04

  It's crazy that on Paramount, they'll, they'll, they'll get a good close up shot of the belt. And it says, bad motherfucker. You would think they would have burned that out.

• 2:57:33Speaker 01

  Here it is, here it is.

• 2:57:34Speaker 04

  Oh shit. Plenty of time.

• 2:57:37Speaker 05

  Oh, back to his feet though.

• 2:57:39Speaker 04

  Now it's on, it's a whole different fight now. He's just gonna be attached to his ass right here.

• 2:57:43Speaker 05

  Said Nate Diaz made up the belt?

• 2:57:44Speaker 01

  He coined the phrase.

• 2:57:46Speaker 05

  Well, no, he BMF.

• 2:57:48Speaker 01

  Post-fight interview.

• 2:57:49Speaker 05

  Oh, interesting. And The Rock just handed the belt out?

• 2:57:52Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:57:52Speaker 05

  The whole thing's fake, so that's cool.

• 2:57:54Speaker 04

  It was crazy. Damn, he let it go.

• 2:57:56Speaker 01

  But he did ragdoll him for a bit, let him know, this shit's real.

• 2:58:01Speaker 04

  Damn, I'm shocked he let it go. Khabib would have never let that go.

• 2:58:06Speaker 05

  No. No, no, no. Khabib was a finisher.

• 2:58:09Speaker 01

  Well, you know, you gotta remember, the Connor fight lasted more than one round. I mean, these guys, they wanna cook you. And if he got him down in this round, and we're only in the second, that's a good sign for.

• 2:58:20Speaker 05

  We're in the third now.

• 2:58:21Speaker 01

  Oh, this is the third, that's right.

• 2:58:24Speaker 05

  The, the people commenting on, uh, Twitter have it 2-0.

• 2:58:29Speaker 01

  Nut shot. For Evloev.

• 2:58:30Speaker 05

  Yeah, uh, no, for Murphy.

• 2:58:32Speaker 01

  Really? Interesting.

• 2:58:33Speaker 05

  Now, it might, they might be British tweeting that, so you never, you never, can't take those things too seriously.

• 2:58:38Speaker 01

  I thought the second round.

• 2:58:39Speaker 05

  So I have it 1-1.

• 2:58:41Speaker 04

  That was a clean nut shot right there.

• 2:58:44Speaker 05

  That should be an automatic point to that.

• 2:58:45Speaker 04

  Oh damn. You know, uh, um, I once, uh, proposed an idea to, when I worked for the UFC in the production crew. I said, why don't you make like the ultimate nut shot highlight? And they shot it down. They thought it was the dumbest thing ever. I was like, dude.

• 2:59:00Speaker 01

  Nobody wants to make that highlight.

• 2:59:02Speaker 04

  Can you imagine that? The best old nut shots?

• 2:59:04Speaker 05

  No, we can't have that.

• 2:59:05Speaker 01

  No.

• 2:59:05Speaker 05

  Eye pokes and, uh, groin shots should be automatic point to that.

• 2:59:08Speaker 04

  But you know when there's a nut shot in the UFC, and then the guy's resting, and then they show the, the replay? Everybody in the audience goes, ooh.

• 2:59:15Speaker 01

  How about Cody, oh, wheel kick. Laurent just caught him with a wheel kick.

• 2:59:19Speaker 05

  You're saying when Cody Garber was throwing up?

• 2:59:20Speaker 01

  It was crazy, he brought a bucket into the octagon.

• 2:59:22Speaker 05

  Well, you're hitting the nuts to throw up.

• 2:59:25Speaker 04

  How about Gilbert Ivel versus, was it Vanderly Silva, Pride 11?

• 2:59:31Speaker 01

  Hmm.

• 2:59:32Speaker 04

  He got kicked in the nuts and his nut was hanging outside of his cup.

• 2:59:35Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 2:59:36Speaker 04

  So it wasn't like a nut shot pain. It was like, my nut got crushed. And that was the end of the fight. He didn't recover. It was over.

• 2:59:44Speaker 01

  Gilbert was a savage back in the day. That happened to me once in a Taekwondo fight.

• 2:59:48Speaker 04

  Your nut got caught outside the cup?

• 2:59:49Speaker 01

  Caught out by the cup. My nut swole up. Oh, God, dude.

• 2:59:54Speaker 04

  Didn't something happen in jiu-jitsu where you pissed blood for a while?

• 2:59:56Speaker 01

  Yeah. Yeah, I was rolling with Einstein and he went, I didn't have a cup on. He went to pass my guard by slicing his knee through and he hit me dead on the dick.

• 3:00:05Speaker 04

  Oh.

• 3:00:05Speaker 01

  Just like center punched my dick. That was horrible.

• 3:00:08Speaker 04

  Pissed in blood?

• 3:00:09Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah. I jerked off to see if I could still, if my dick was broken. Cause I was thinking whether I should treat it like a nose. Where it's like, it's just broken. No, I was like, it's just bleeding. But it just bleed. Or should I treat it like, I'm bleeding from an organ?

• 3:00:23Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 3:00:23Speaker 01

  Go to the doctor right now. And I was like, well, let's see if it works.

• 3:00:26Speaker 04

  Bro signs.

• 3:00:27Speaker 01

  And it worked.

• 3:00:27Speaker 04

  It worked.

• 3:00:28Speaker 01

  It worked. It was so gross. I shot it into the toilet.

• 3:00:31Speaker 04

  Was there any blood in the nut?

• 3:00:33Speaker 01

  A hundred percent. Yeah. There was blood in my piss. There was blood in the nut.

• 3:00:37Speaker 04

  Was it like 20% blood, 80% nut?

• 3:00:39Speaker 01

  It was concerning. But uh. It just went away? It just went away. Yeah. It was so dumb. I was like, if I wake up in the morning and it's really hurting, I'm gonna go to the doctor. And it didn't. So I was like, okay. Yes, bro signs.

• 3:00:50Speaker 04

  Was there bruising on the shaft?

• 3:00:53Speaker 01

  No. That was internal. It got smushed. It got literally like flattened. It's like the knee just like, that was the last time I ever rolled without a cup. Tell you that, dog.

• 3:01:03Speaker 04

  You know, a couple fucking popsicle sticks and some athletic tape would have fixed that.

• 3:01:07Speaker 01

  I always talk about those MMA shorts from Diamond MMA. Those are the shit. Compression, compression shorts with that, that cup that is like perfectly contoured. With the right amount of cushion on the edge. That's the shit. That thing, it doesn't restrict your movement at all. And that compression shorts really hold it in place. I fucking hate cups though. But really, the best one is the Thai steel cup, cause it hurts if you hit it.

• 3:01:31Speaker 04

  She gotta wear it like a thong.

• 3:01:33Speaker 01

  Yeah, it sucks. It goes up your asshole.

• 3:01:35Speaker 04

  Yeah, they shouldn't make it hurt real bad. They should put like, uh, like spikes on the outside so if you wanna kick the balls, you're gonna fuck your foot up.

• 3:01:41Speaker 01

  I wonder if anybody ever takes, uh, one of them Thai steel cups and puts it in compression shorts like that.

• 3:01:46Speaker 04

  For sure.

• 3:01:46Speaker 01

  That would be the move.

• 3:01:47Speaker 04

  That's the move.

• 3:01:48Speaker 01

  That would be the move, like, get a steel cup the shape of those diamond one. It would hurt when you kicked and stuff.

• 3:01:53Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 3:01:54Speaker 01

  It would irritate the shit out of you, but like the diamond one doesn't hurt at all.

• 3:01:57Speaker 04

  Uh-uh.

• 3:01:58Speaker 01

  It's like perf- and it offers perfect protection, but the steel ones, remember Amir Renavati?

• 3:02:03Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 3:02:04Speaker 01

  Amir used to wear his Thai steel cup in practice. One time he mounted me and stuck it in the middle of my chest, and I almost tapped just from him mounting me.

• 3:02:12Speaker 04

  Yeah, all the pressure.

• 3:02:13Speaker 01

  Oh, it was horrible. He was, he was tapping me with his dick.

• 3:02:17Speaker 04

  Arm bars are evil too when you got steel cups.

• 3:02:19Speaker 01

  Evloev just got off a good combination at the end of that round.

• 3:02:22Speaker 05

  It looks like he cut him.

• 3:02:23Speaker 01

  He cut him.

• 3:02:24Speaker 04

  Who cut who?

• 3:02:25Speaker 01

  Evloev cut Laron.

• 3:02:26Speaker 05

  Right there.

• 3:02:27Speaker 01

  Over the left eye. Yeah, he got off a good combination.

• 3:02:30Speaker 04

  Round four.

• 3:02:30Speaker 01

  Oh, that's a bad cut, dude.

• 3:02:32Speaker 04

  It's above the eyes, so it's a nightmare.

• 3:02:34Speaker 01

  That's a bad cut, dude. That's a big one, man. That's a whole eyebrow cut.

• 3:02:39Speaker 01

  He looks concerned.

• 3:02:41Speaker 04

  Jamie, are they saying on the cans who's winning?

• 3:02:44Speaker 02

  I don't hear anything.

• 3:02:45Speaker 04

  Word.

• 3:02:46Speaker 01

  Interesting.

• 3:02:48Speaker 02

  I was looking at Twitter trying to see stuff and some people were saying that Evloev could be injured.

• 3:02:54Speaker 04

  Oh, that was a nice one.

• 3:02:56Speaker 01

  He could be injured?

• 3:02:57Speaker 02

  Just because he's not going for any takedowns.

• 3:02:58Speaker 01

  No, they're just silly. He went for that one takedown. He looked fucking great.

• 3:03:02Speaker 04

  He did.

• 3:03:02Speaker 01

  Look, he's landing combinations here, man.

• 3:03:07Speaker 01

  That's crazy. Who would've thought that Evloev would be the one pressing Laron up against the cage, teeing off on him and cutting him?

• 3:03:14Speaker 04

  Yeah, look at, look at his cardio. So three rounds down, you gotta go two to, two to one probably, right?

• 3:03:19Speaker 05

  I would, two to one Evloev.

• 3:03:20Speaker 04

  Or it could be three, zero. I mean, it could be.

• 3:03:24Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 3:03:24Speaker 04

  Cause that first round could've gone to anybody.

• 3:03:26Speaker 05

  That's a bad placement for a cut now.

• 3:03:27Speaker 01

  I felt like that second round was the one that made me think Evloev won that round.

• 3:03:31Speaker 04

  Me too.

• 3:03:32Speaker 01

  But.

• 3:03:33Speaker 04

  And that third round, especially at the end there when he's popping off.

• 3:03:36Speaker 01

  That cut's a problem, man.

• 3:03:38Speaker 04

  Horrible spot for him.

• 3:03:39Speaker 01

  It's also, he's been getting touched too. It's not like he's not getting hit after that cut. He's getting touched.

• 3:03:46Speaker 01

  Oh, that kick to the, oh, nut shot.

• 3:03:48Speaker 05

  Take a fucking point, dude. At this point, you gotta take, you can't do another fucking warning. I don't understand this.

• 3:03:57Speaker 04

  I wouldn't be surprised if the fight's over. Him going to his knees like that, he got cut, now he got cut, and now he's on his knees.

• 3:04:06Speaker 01

  How dare you, Eddie?

• 3:04:07Speaker 04

  Oh, I mean, that's right, that big dick.

• 3:04:09Speaker 01

  Right on there. Right on there.

• 3:04:11Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 3:04:11Speaker 01

  Oh, my god.

• 3:04:12Speaker 04

  We need highlights of that.

• 3:04:13Speaker 01

  Oh, he's still down.

• 3:04:14Speaker 04

  Everybody's going, oh.

• 3:04:15Speaker 01

  He's still down, holding his nuts.

• 3:04:17Speaker 05

  If that doesn't deserve to lose a point, I don't know what the fuck does. It changes the dynamic of the fight.

• 3:04:22Speaker 01

  One hundred percent.

• 3:04:23Speaker 05

  You can't just issue a warning for that.

• 3:04:24Speaker 04

  I think it's over.

• 3:04:26Speaker 01

  I think it's over. I feel like nut shot, eye poke, one point, one point, grab the fence, one point.

• 3:04:31Speaker 05

  Hundred percent, Joe. And, and if you do that, I promise you, it will all stop.

• 3:04:35Speaker 01

  Stop everything.

• 3:04:36Speaker 05

  I get John's not poking guys in the face, Cyril Gahn's not poking guys, because if it's changing, you winning the fight, they're like, fuck this.

• 3:04:42Speaker 01

  Right.

• 3:04:42Speaker 05

  They're gonna be way more cautious.

• 3:04:43Speaker 01

  Exactly.

• 3:04:45Speaker 05

  Fuck, dude. You ever seen the odds of when he's up, you get hit in the nuts?

• 3:04:48Speaker 01

  He's alright.

• 3:04:49Speaker 05

  Winning the fight? It's not good.

• 3:04:50Speaker 01

  It's not good.

• 3:04:51Speaker 05

  Not good.

• 3:04:51Speaker 01

  It's, it weakens you so much.

• 3:04:53Speaker 05

  Oh, dude.

• 3:04:53Speaker 04

  Yeah, is there a stat on that?

• 3:04:55Speaker 01

  Here he goes, one point.

• 3:04:55Speaker 05

  Yeah, there's a stat.

• 3:04:56Speaker 01

  One point.

• 3:04:56Speaker 04

  Most people lose.

• 3:04:57Speaker 05

  Most people lose.

• 3:04:58Speaker 04

  After nut shots. You would think.

• 3:05:00Speaker 05

  Yeah, you think about getting kicked in the nuts and you're, oh.

• 3:05:03Speaker 01

  One point.

• 3:05:03Speaker 04

  That's my guy.

• 3:05:04Speaker 01

  One point.

• 3:05:05Speaker 05

  He's one of my faves, too.

• 3:05:06Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 3:05:06Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 3:05:07Speaker 01

  Mark Goddard's solid as fuck.

• 3:05:08Speaker 04

  Two nut shots, yeah, you gotta take a point.

• 3:05:10Speaker 01

  He should be one. Is he ready?

• 3:05:12Speaker 04

  Damn, kid, take that time.

• 3:05:14Speaker 05

  Just sick to his stomach, too.

• 3:05:15Speaker 01

  Take that time.

• 3:05:15Speaker 05

  Only a minute thirty?

• 3:05:17Speaker 01

  Take a little more time, man. Oh, he's mad.

• 3:05:19Speaker 05

  Ooh, maybe, ooh, baby, maybe there's a light of fire in his ass.

• 3:05:24Speaker 01

  Maybe we'll try to tee off on him now.

• 3:05:25Speaker 04

  What percentage of guys that got kicked in the balls won the fight?

• 3:05:29Speaker 05

  Uh, it's, it's low. I think it's like forty percent.

• 3:05:31Speaker 01

  Wow, interesting.

• 3:05:34Speaker 04

  That's, that's almost fifty. I mean, that's kind of like, uh, there's no.

• 3:05:38Speaker 01

  Well, eye pokes too, man. So many guys are fighting with one eye where they literally can't say.

• 3:05:42Speaker 05

  They're compromised.

• 3:05:43Speaker 01

  Oh, the wrong corner with a nice right hand there. That was a nice right hand.

• 3:05:47Speaker 05

  Now, evil of, oh, no, no, no, no, no.

• 3:05:50Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 3:05:50Speaker 05

  Get up.

• 3:05:51Speaker 01

  Back up to his feet, quickly, quickly. That was nice.

• 3:05:54Speaker 04

  Damn, he's not even trying to take him down.

• 3:05:55Speaker 01

  Good defense.

• 3:05:56Speaker 05

  God damn, that's that bully beat down push.

• 3:05:58Speaker 04

  He's not even trying. I think it's gonna spell trouble for Evil in the end. You keep, you're gonna fuck around and find out.

• 3:06:04Speaker 01

  Well, the more Laron is confident that he can get back up. The more he's confident he can avoid the takedown and get back up.

• 3:06:10Speaker 04

  Then he can start letting loose.

• 3:06:12Speaker 01

  Right.

• 3:06:12Speaker 04

  Or he might be thinking, or he might be thinking, damn, this guy's doesn't, he's not even trying to take me down. He's, he wants to strike. That's even scarier.

• 3:06:20Speaker 01

  Yeah, but I think it's hindering his flow. His striking, oh, they both connected there.

• 3:06:29Speaker 01

  Bro, Evil is no joke, son. Oh, he looked for that spinning elbow. He was way out of line.

• 3:06:33Speaker 04

  Spinning elbow to the body? I've never seen that.

• 3:06:36Speaker 01

  He slipped. I've never seen that.

• 3:06:38Speaker 04

  I don't think he meant to. Okay.

• 3:06:45Speaker 01

  I mean, it's technically possible. If someone's that tight to you and you don't have access to the head, but you would always try.

• 3:06:52Speaker 04

  Oh. Bro. His face is pretty red.

• 3:06:56Speaker 01

  Evil is fucking solid. Yeah, he's leaking out of his nose, it looks like, too.

• 3:07:00Speaker 04

  That, that shot him right in the face.

• 3:07:02Speaker 01

  It's hard to say, because it might be just coming down from his eyebrow.

• 3:07:04Speaker 04

  From his eye, yeah.

• 3:07:08Speaker 01

  That's right. But he won by points in a fight that he was losing.

• 3:07:11Speaker 04

  Who's that?

• 3:07:12Speaker 01

  Cody Garbrandt. That was the one we threw up in the.

• 3:07:15Speaker 04

  That was recently, right?

• 3:07:15Speaker 01

  That was two points.

• 3:07:16Speaker 04

  That was like a week or two ago?

• 3:07:18Speaker 01

  Yeah. Yeah. Oh, look at that. Look at that shot.

• 3:07:20Speaker 04

  Seals the round, so it's like an even round. So far, it's even round. He lost a point, but he's gonna win the round.

• 3:07:26Speaker 01

  Chooses now, because we're in the fourth, to try to hold him down.

• 3:07:31Speaker 04

  Either way, he wins the round. I'll tell you what, though. Murphy getting his feet pretty fucking good. Oh, shit. Did you see that?

• 3:07:38Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 3:07:38Speaker 04

  Damn, that was a great takedown. He's just gotta put the seatbelt on and secure that shit.

• 3:07:43Speaker 01

  He keeps hitting that cut, too.

• 3:07:45Speaker 04

  He's gotta put the seatbelt on.

• 3:07:46Speaker 01

  He's punching him in that left eye as well.

• 3:07:50Speaker 01

  Interesting.

• 3:07:51Speaker 04

  Yeah, he can't win like this.

• 3:07:55Speaker 05

  Talking about Murphy can't? Yeah. No. Trying to get back up? Uh huh.

• 3:07:58Speaker 01

  He's got a, he's got a, and if now that he's up, if he separates, he's got to make something big happen.

• 3:08:04Speaker 05

  Yeah, he's, yeah, he needs to take some chances now.

• 3:08:06Speaker 01

  Cause he could lose this fight.

• 3:08:07Speaker 05

  But this is usually how Evil Lo fights. Like you usually get fucking 25 minutes of this.

• 3:08:13Speaker 05

  That's also when, uh.

• 3:08:15Speaker 01

  Oh, nice hook to the body and a right hand up top. It's like the fucking dude is dangerous everywhere right now.

• 3:08:21Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 3:08:22Speaker 01

  Ooh.

• 3:08:23Speaker 05

  It was a good body kick.

• 3:08:26Speaker 05

  Who's the striking trainer? Is it, uh, Tiago Al- Alves? Evil Lo? Well, he's. He's on Mike Brown.

• 3:08:33Speaker 01

  He's in that camp.

• 3:08:34Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 3:08:35Speaker 01

  I don't know who their main striking coach is though. I'm sure they have a bunch of them over there. I mean, that's a super camp.

• 3:08:41Speaker 05

  It's a super camp.

• 3:08:41Speaker 01

  That place is crazy. I want to go.

• 3:08:44Speaker 05

  Oh.

• 3:08:45Speaker 01

  Nice right hand over the top.

• 3:08:46Speaker 05

  Big shot.

• 3:08:53Speaker 01

  The round's getting close now.

• 3:08:54Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 3:08:55Speaker 01

  They're in tight.

• 3:08:56Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 3:08:57Speaker 01

  But also like, he's gotta be a little tired.

• 3:08:59Speaker 05

  Has to be from defending those takedowns.

• 3:09:01Speaker 01

  Yeah, man. All that grappling.

• 3:09:02Speaker 05

  He just needs to open up.

• 3:09:03Speaker 01

  And it's the fourth round.

• 3:09:04Speaker 05

  Yeah, he needs to open up.

• 3:09:05Speaker 01

  And he's been backing up the entire fight.

• 3:09:07Speaker 05

  You gotta risk getting taken down. And he kind of leaned into the fence too. Oh, that's not good. Oh, that's not good. Kick and go straight to your back.

• 3:09:11Speaker 01

  Not good. And then he didn't get up quick either.

• 3:09:13Speaker 05

  Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

• 3:09:14Speaker 01

  He's exhausted, dude. He's exhausted.

• 3:09:16Speaker 05

  Yeah, it's trouble. Ooh. And then this can make you more tired.

• 3:09:20Speaker 01

  Goodness. Oh, my goodness.

• 3:09:21Speaker 05

  Seatbelt.

• 3:09:23Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 3:09:24Speaker 01

  Back up though. I'm telling you, man. It's, it's impressive how he's been able to get back up.

• 3:09:28Speaker 05

  It is.

• 3:09:28Speaker 01

  I don't like how he went down.

• 3:09:29Speaker 05

  No, I mean, how he didn't scramble back up.

• 3:09:31Speaker 01

  Didn't scramble back up quickly. It's almost like he was accepting the position a little bit to get a break.

• 3:09:36Speaker 05

  Usually a bad sign.

• 3:09:36Speaker 01

  He just ate a right hand.

• 3:09:37Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 3:09:39Speaker 05

  He needs to accept getting taken down, start letting loose.

• 3:09:44Speaker 01

  It's very impressive Evil Lo have stand up.

• 3:09:47Speaker 05

  Yeah, going toe to toe with Murphy.

• 3:09:49Speaker 01

  Because it's like, it makes the take, takedown much more of a threat because it's not like, look at that uppercut. It's not like it's a picnic standing up. It's a problem.

• 3:09:57Speaker 05

  Yep. I also think for the judges too because he's getting less takedowns it it shows more dominance if that makes sense. It's a bigger moment.

• 3:10:07Speaker 01

  Boy, LaRue's in a bad spot right now.

• 3:10:09Speaker 05

  Tough spot.

• 3:10:09Speaker 01

  Going into the fifth.

• 3:10:10Speaker 05

  He's tired, cut up.

• 3:10:11Speaker 01

  Yeah, he's exhausted.

• 3:10:12Speaker 05

  That eye's bad.

• 3:10:14Speaker 01

  That's the thing that a grappler will do to you. They just wear you the fuck out. Do you remember when Khabib fought Edson? And it was in the first round, Edson had this look in his eyes like, I don't know if I can do this.

• 3:10:24Speaker 05

  What the fuck?

• 3:10:25Speaker 01

  It was that thousand yard stare like, oh my.

• 3:10:27Speaker 05

  How did that fight end?

• 3:10:28Speaker 01

  Oh, Khabib just beat the shit out of him.

• 3:10:30Speaker 05

  Decision?

• 3:10:31Speaker 01

  I don't remember. I don't remember if he stopped him. Or if he just beat him up for three rounds.

• 3:10:36Speaker 05

  Decision?

• 3:10:36Speaker 01

  Decision?

• 3:10:37Speaker 05

  But it was like a.

• 3:10:38Speaker 01

  A mauling. It was a mauling.

• 3:10:41Speaker 05

  But that was the difference between Khabib and a lot of these guys now is he would break you. Even though it go decision, buddy. By the time that bell rang, guys were like, thank God.

• 3:10:50Speaker 01

  Yeah, they look like they're about to die.

• 3:10:51Speaker 05

  He would make you pay.

• 3:10:52Speaker 04

  Yeah, with him, it's like, you know, are you gonna, you're you're probably gonna get taken down. You're probably gonna get, uh, uh, clinched on. Fuck trying to stand up. Attack him off your guard.

• 3:11:04Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 3:11:05Speaker 04

  Fuck it. You know, that's how I was training Tony. Like, let's fuck spending the whole time trying to get a, get.

• 3:11:10Speaker 05

  You're gonna get taken down, yeah.

• 3:11:11Speaker 04

  Accept it and let's go.

• 3:11:13Speaker 05

  Let's go to work.

• 3:11:13Speaker 04

  Let's go to work. That's like Nate Diaz's strategy. His strategy is like, I'm like, you want to take me down? Let's go. I'll play jiu-jitsu on the ground. Why try to stand up the whole time? You're gonna lose. You can't stand up against Khabib.

• 3:11:25Speaker 01

  Fifth round.

• 3:11:29Speaker 01

  Boy, I don't know. LaRue's gotta do something spectacular.

• 3:11:32Speaker 05

  He really, he needs a knockdown or something.

• 3:11:34Speaker 01

  Ooh, nice low kick.

• 3:11:39Speaker 01

  He's trying. I mean, he's.

• 3:11:41Speaker 05

  These guys online are saying Murphy has a, a lead. 3936 Murphy had in the final round. God, I don't see it that way. I feel like we've been watching pretty fucking close.

• 3:11:50Speaker 01

  Interesting. I wonder why they think that.

• 3:11:53Speaker 05

  You'd give me, I guess Murphy the first, not the second, not the third.

• 3:11:57Speaker 01

  That right hand.

• 3:11:58Speaker 05

  Fourth was a draw.

• 3:11:59Speaker 01

  I mean.

• 3:12:00Speaker 04

  Our fourth was not a draw.

• 3:12:02Speaker 01

  No.

• 3:12:02Speaker 04

  Oh, wait a minute, it was because of the nut shot.

• 3:12:04Speaker 05

  Yeah, because of the nut shot. So you got a draw in the fourth.

• 3:12:07Speaker 04

  So it's even, so it's like an even fight.

• 3:12:09Speaker 01

  Right, that makes it interesting. That, then you could see Laron walking away with this. Because of that point. If he wins this round. If he even survives now, because he's exhausted at this point. Maybe now, Mosvar can finally finish somebody.

• 3:12:25Speaker 05

  If he's tired enough.

• 3:12:27Speaker 01

  That would be a big deal if he could finish Laron.

• 3:12:29Speaker 05

  That's what he needs.

• 3:12:31Speaker 01

  Laron's gonna, doing a good job of defending.

• 3:12:32Speaker 05

  He really is.

• 3:12:34Speaker 01

  Hammer fist to the head, though. Oof. He's gotta let go.

• 3:12:38Speaker 05

  That bleeding.

• 3:12:39Speaker 01

  Oh my god, he's leaking. He's leaking bad now. Rampy.

• 3:12:47Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's just like the superior grappling of Yevloev's on display. On display, I mean. That top pressure's no joke.

• 3:12:56Speaker 05

  Head arm.

• 3:12:57Speaker 04

  Oh, there it is.

• 3:12:57Speaker 05

  There it is.

• 3:12:58Speaker 04

  There it is.

• 3:12:59Speaker 05

  Other side, just stick to that.

• 3:13:00Speaker 02

  That says he said, told his corner, his hip is hurt. Murphy did.

• 3:13:04Speaker 01

  Oh, no.

• 3:13:05Speaker 02

  In between rounds.

• 3:13:07Speaker 05

  Which round, do you know?

• 3:13:07Speaker 02

  I think the last one.

• 3:13:09Speaker 01

  Oh, no.

• 3:13:09Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's, this is a wrap. It's a wrap.

• 3:13:16Speaker 05

  Yeah, but if your hips hurt from getting fucked up, it's like, yeah, that's, you're gonna fight, bubba.

• 3:13:21Speaker 01

  I know, but he might not, he might have something torn where he can't throw kicks.

• 3:13:25Speaker 04

  If he gets up, gets out of this and knocks him out, that'd be insane.

• 3:13:28Speaker 01

  Insane. A lot of time left.

• 3:13:29Speaker 05

  Edwards side.

• 3:13:30Speaker 01

  Not even half of the round.

• 3:13:33Speaker 05

  Imagine if he does it like.

• 3:13:33Speaker 01

  Oh, he's ragdolling him now, though, dude. He's ragdolling him now.

• 3:13:38Speaker 01

  This is a classic Yevloev fight right now.

• 3:13:41Speaker 05

  Yes, this is usually how they look.

• 3:13:42Speaker 01

  Just beating you up on the cage and constantly dragging you. Look at Laron, so tired, dude.

• 3:13:47Speaker 04

  His face was like.

• 3:13:48Speaker 05

  He's not backing off the, oh, he did back off, damn.

• 3:13:53Speaker 05

  He feels really confident with the striking.

• 3:13:57Speaker 05

  Murphy needs to let loose on the feet here. But again, if his hips are hurting, he can't throw those kicks.

• 3:14:01Speaker 04

  What if, what if.

• 3:14:02Speaker 05

  And then it affects your punches, dude.

• 3:14:03Speaker 04

  And it's over, boom. That would be the greatest comeback.

• 3:14:08Speaker 01

  Oh, always looking for bombs.

• 3:14:13Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 3:14:14Speaker 05

  Ah, good read.

• 3:14:25Speaker 01

  He does that duck like he's trying to take you down. He throws that overhand.

• 3:14:29Speaker 05

  I like how Mostar does it in fucking board shorts, too. You don't see those a lot.

• 3:14:33Speaker 01

  Those are s- the problem with them is people can grab them. There shouldn't be anything someone can grab.

• 3:14:38Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 3:14:38Speaker 01

  I just-

• 3:14:39Speaker 04

  Well, you shouldn't, you should not be able to grab clothing. That's all, it's real simple.

• 3:14:42Speaker 01

  But people do it sometimes, when no one's looking.

• 3:14:44Speaker 04

  It should be illegal.

• 3:14:45Speaker 01

  It, it is illegal.

• 3:14:46Speaker 05

  Guys still do it, especially to defend against-

• 3:14:48Speaker 01

  Occasionally, guys do it. It be, it's just, it should be out of the equation. Like, you can kick just as good in those tights.

• 3:14:55Speaker 05

  Yeah, the board shorts look is weird.

• 3:14:57Speaker 01

  That was a good right hand by LaRone.

• 3:14:58Speaker 05

  Brock, too, though.

• 3:15:01Speaker 05

  Those have to be the longest shorts.

• 3:15:02Speaker 01

  Yeah, but good luck grabbing Khabib's shorts. That's what he wants.

• 3:15:05Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 3:15:06Speaker 01

  Good, we're grappling now.

• 3:15:07Speaker 05

  Yeah, you're close.

• 3:15:08Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 3:15:17Speaker 01

  The thing is, like, Evil Love is the one that's pushing it.

• 3:15:21Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 3:15:21Speaker 01

  You know what I mean? Now LaRone is. He's gotta realize it's do or die. I wonder how this is score. Ooh, he tried for that elbow. I wonder how this is being scored. Oh, dragged him down again.

• 3:15:33Speaker 05

  Shit's over. I mean, I have Evil Love winning two, three, five.

• 3:15:39Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 3:15:40Speaker 05

  Four's a draw. Murphy won the first.

• 3:15:43Speaker 04

  If that.

• 3:15:44Speaker 05

  Yeah, exactly.

• 3:15:47Speaker 05

  That's never good.

• 3:15:48Speaker 01

  Oh, boy.

• 3:15:51Speaker 01

  Just dragging him down.

• 3:15:52Speaker 04

  Dude throws a triangle on him.

• 3:15:53Speaker 01

  That would be crazy.

• 3:15:56Speaker 05

  Oh, he's trying to sweep him.

• 3:15:57Speaker 01

  Step over, try and get over that leg.

• 3:16:02Speaker 01

  Oh, that's like-

• 3:16:03Speaker 04

  He's gonna mount him.

• 3:16:07Speaker 01

  At the very least-

• 3:16:08Speaker 04

  Oh, shit.

• 3:16:09Speaker 01

  He's never getting-

• 3:16:09Speaker 04

  Put that sleeve belt in and take the back.

• 3:16:12Speaker 05

  Impressive he got up, though. That's fucking impressive.

• 3:16:14Speaker 01

  Very impressive.

• 3:16:15Speaker 04

  Yeah, one second. Boom, it's over. That's a wrap. Phew. That's a wrap.

• 3:16:25Speaker 05

  Evlo tried to make it exciting.

• 3:16:27Speaker 01

  He definitely did. He definitely did.

• 3:16:30Speaker 05

  He tried his best. He's a motherfucker, man.

• 3:16:33Speaker 01

  Yeah, he's a real problem. So, Laron's on his back touching his hip now.

• 3:16:36Speaker 04

  Yeah, there's no way he won, dude. It's a...

• 3:16:38Speaker 05

  There's no way, right?

• 3:16:39Speaker 04

  You ain't winning laying down in the octagon after the fight, holding your hip.

• 3:16:43Speaker 05

  Here's the problem, you have a hip issue. We should fucking get that Volkanovski fights anytime soon.

• 3:16:47Speaker 04

  They go, "You, dude, you gotta stand up and raise your fucking hand. What are you doing?"

• 3:16:50Speaker 01

  Unless it's...

• 3:16:51Speaker 04

  Can't lay down?

• 3:16:52Speaker 01

  Minor. I mean, it could just be a tear. A slight tear in a muscle. Who knows?

• 3:16:58Speaker 05

  Give him a ways to well, we'll fix that shit.

• 3:17:00Speaker 01

  Hip's a problem, though, man.

• 3:17:01Speaker 05

  Hip's a problem.

• 3:17:02Speaker 01

  You fuck your hip up, rrrr.

• 3:17:03Speaker 05

  All your power comes from there.

• 3:17:04Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 3:17:08Speaker 01

  You know, Dustin was telling me that he had his hip resurfaced and he couldn't use it for eight weeks, couldn't put any weight on it at all.

• 3:17:15Speaker 05

  What the fuck's resurfaced?

• 3:17:16Speaker 01

  They, apparently the way his hip was shaped, they had to go in and reshape his hip and then put a bunch of micro abrasions in there because his hip was like fucking up his labor.

• 3:17:25Speaker 04

  Oh, wow.

• 3:17:26Speaker 01

  Yeah. He'd gotten stem cells at one point in time, that helped him a lot, but then it just kept getting bad in camps. And then eventually he had to get it resurfaced.

• 3:17:35Speaker 05

  I didn't finish the whole show with him, but he was great.

• 3:17:37Speaker 01

  It's hard. He was great. It's, it's hard. You know, he's still fairly young, still could do, he's jacked now.

• 3:17:44Speaker 04

  I know, he looks great.

• 3:17:46Speaker 01

  I mean, he wanted to do a boxing match with Diaz in Zufa Boxing.

• 3:17:51Speaker 04

  UFC's, and they said nah.

• 3:17:52Speaker 01

  UFC's not in any crossovers.

• 3:17:54Speaker 04

  I get that.

• 3:17:54Speaker 01

  I kinda get it, but isn't it fun? Isn't that a fun fight?

• 3:17:58Speaker 04

  Yeah, do you like numbies? Is Zufa Boxing, um, is that a Fertitta's thing?

• 3:18:03Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 3:18:03Speaker 04

  Yeah, so they're involved?

• 3:18:04Speaker 01

  Well, not Fertitta's.

• 3:18:05Speaker 04

  Well, it's Dana's thing.

• 3:18:06Speaker 01

  It's Dana's.

• 3:18:06Speaker 04

  Has nothing to do with Lorenzo or Frank at all?

• 3:18:09Speaker 01

  I don't believe so.

• 3:18:09Speaker 04

  I don't think so. No, it's a TKO thing. So it'd be, uh...

• 3:18:12Speaker 01

  I don't believe they have any stake in the UFC anymore, right?

• 3:18:14Speaker 04

  No, Fertitta's are out. Yeah, but since it's called Zufa, I thought that was a Fertitta's thing.

• 3:18:19Speaker 01

  They sold the name.

• 3:18:20Speaker 04

  With the business.

• 3:18:21Speaker 01

  I mean, Evloev, one decision.

• 3:18:23Speaker 04

  Yep.

• 3:18:24Speaker 01

  There you go, boys.

• 3:18:25Speaker 04

  Damn, we're three and a half hours in.

• 3:18:27Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 3:18:28Speaker 05

  Well, but you got a bunch of fucking decisions, dude. MVP.

• 3:18:33Speaker 05

  Riley, this.

• 3:18:34Speaker 01

  I know. Tough.

• 3:18:38Speaker 05

  That was still an awesome fight though.

• 3:18:40Speaker 01

  That was a great fight.

• 3:18:41Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 3:18:41Speaker 01

  The MVP one was the real problem, but you nailed it. It's matchmaking issue. You can't have a guy who knows the puzzle.

• 3:18:47Speaker 05

  No.

• 3:18:48Speaker 01

  Come on, man.

• 3:18:49Speaker 05

  Could you get a shit fight?

• 3:18:50Speaker 01

  Yeah. Not good.

• 3:18:52Speaker 05

  Not good. Poor MVP.

• 3:18:54Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 3:18:54Speaker 05

  Still love him.

• 3:18:55Speaker 01

  Oh, look at that uppercut. The evil of things. Very impressive. The fact that he was able to stand with him was very impressive to me. Look at that right hand.

• 3:19:03Speaker 05

  Aren't you excited to see him fight Volkanovski?

• 3:19:05Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 3:19:06Speaker 05

  I, I, that Volkanovski is a tough puzzle to solve, man. That motherfucker can wrestle.

• 3:19:10Speaker 04

  So is that, is that, uh, who's gonna get?

• 3:19:12Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 3:19:12Speaker 04

  They said whoever wins this gets Volkanovski.

• 3:19:14Speaker 01

  Yeah, I hope so.

• 3:19:15Speaker 05

  Oh, that it is.

• 3:19:16Speaker 01

  God, I hope so.

• 3:19:16Speaker 05

  Yeah, it is.

• 3:19:17Speaker 01

  I hope they don't fuck him again.

• 3:19:19Speaker 05

  Like, dude, Lopez just won.

• 3:19:20Speaker 01

  After this, though, after this.

• 3:19:22Speaker 05

  No, they can't.

• 3:19:22Speaker 01

  They can't.

• 3:19:23Speaker 05

  Number one versus number three, come on.

• 3:19:24Speaker 01

  It has to be.

• 3:19:24Speaker 05

  It has to be.

• 3:19:26Speaker 01

  Or.

• 3:19:26Speaker 05

  He's what, 20 in a row?

• 3:19:27Speaker 01

  Something's terrible in the world.

• 3:19:28Speaker 05

  No, he, he, it's for sure the title shot. And Volkanovski wants to fight the winner too?

• 3:19:34Speaker 01

  White House lawn, let's go. Give the man a couple of months off. We're only in March. It's in June.

• 3:19:41Speaker 05

  It's true.

• 3:19:42Speaker 01

  Come on, spice that card up, baby.

• 3:19:45Speaker 05

  I feel like they're gonna do something for it, right?

• 3:19:46Speaker 01

  Ah, I think that's it. I think that's the card.

• 3:19:49Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 3:19:49Speaker 01

  I think they only wanna have a certain amount of fights. They don't wanna have one of them six hour deals.

• 3:19:53Speaker 05

  I don't think they can either.

• 3:19:54Speaker 01

  Yeah, they probably have a small window of time to operate.

• 3:19:57Speaker 05

  The.

• 3:19:57Speaker 01

  While the fucking jets are flying overhead and all the.

• 3:19:59Speaker 05

  Yeah, the White House, like, wait, how long are 15 fights? Like, you get six. Get the fuck out of here.

• 3:20:03Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 3:20:04Speaker 05

  No one's trying to watch this for fucking six hours?

• 3:20:07Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 3:20:09Speaker 05

  It's wild they're even doing it at the White House.

• 3:20:12Speaker 01

  It's kinda nuts.

• 3:20:15Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 3:20:15Speaker 04

  But it shows, uh, how, uh, much Trump is into the UFC, cuz it would not happen if it wasn't for Trump. Like, Trump is making it happen.

• 3:20:22Speaker 05

  Well, it wouldn't happen if Dana and Trump weren't friends.

• 3:20:24Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 3:20:25Speaker 01

  They should have asked Biden, he would've said yes. He wouldn't know what he was saying yes to.

• 3:20:30Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 3:20:32Speaker 05

  Oh, that's where he hurt his hip there.

• 3:20:34Speaker 01

  Hmm.

• 3:20:35Speaker 05

  That sucks. Probably just.

• 3:20:36Speaker 04

  Oh, was it that, that, that spinning elbow to the body?

• 3:20:39Speaker 05

  Yeah, he slipped.

• 3:20:40Speaker 04

  Oh.

• 3:20:41Speaker 05

  Probably the torque on that hip flexor.

• 3:20:42Speaker 04

  Yes, yes. Okay, that makes sense.

• 3:20:44Speaker 05

  That's a bad one.

• 3:20:46Speaker 01

  Well, hopefully it's just a muscle pull and nothing crazy. Because again, you tear something in your hip.

• 3:20:54Speaker 01

  That's a.

• 3:20:54Speaker 05

  Tough.

• 3:20:55Speaker 01

  It's a real hard one to come back from. Like when Dustin was saying, he couldn't put any weight on his leg for eight weeks. That's two months of doing nothing. You have to walk around in crutches for two months.

• 3:21:04Speaker 05

  But Dustin's, he's doing some commentating for the UFC, right? He's doing some analyst work?

• 3:21:07Speaker 01

  Desk stuff, yeah. He likes that. He's doing, he's got a lot of businesses.

• 3:21:12Speaker 05

  He's a smart kid, yeah.

• 3:21:13Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 3:21:14Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 3:21:14Speaker 01

  He's got a lot of shit going on.

• 3:21:15Speaker 05

  Diamond hot sauce is great.

• 3:21:16Speaker 01

  But he still loves it, you know, he still.

• 3:21:18Speaker 05

  That's what's tough. When you have that dog in you and then you're selling hot sauce.

• 3:21:21Speaker 01

  Hot sauce is, it's his, it's his identity, you know, for so long. He was one of the best fighters in the UFC forever.

• 3:21:27Speaker 05

  Yeah, it's what, what do you do?

• 3:21:29Speaker 01

  I don't know.

• 3:21:30Speaker 05

  I fucking get it, man.

• 3:21:32Speaker 01

  Well.

• 3:21:34Speaker 01

  Let's wrap this up.

• 3:21:35Speaker 05

  Let's wrap it up.

• 3:21:35Speaker 04

  Alrighty.

• 3:21:36Speaker 01

  Fun times.

• 3:21:37Speaker 04

  It's been a. I just want to say before we, we wrap up, all that, that podcast that you did with Aaron Seri.

• 3:21:45Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 3:21:45Speaker 04

  On vaccines.

• 3:21:46Speaker 01

  Crazy.

• 3:21:47Speaker 04

  So whatever you think about vaccines, watch that and then ask yourself, do you think it's the same exact formula with pet vaccines? Cause it's, it's like a, vets getting a kickbacks, doctors getting kickbacks. It's all the same thing. Do you know, do you know that, that they used to inject pets with vaccines in their neck and they stopped doing that in the scruff? Cause they, they usually put like any, like medicine and stuff in the scruff, but they stopped doing it in the scruff and started doing it in the arms. Because there was a lot of vaccine induced sarcomas, like tumors. And if you got a tumor in your neck, you're fucking dead. But if you got a tumor in your arm. They just chopped the arm off.

• 3:22:28Speaker 05

  Oh, God, dude.

• 3:22:29Speaker 04

  That's why they, that's why they shoot pet vaccines in the limbs. Because there might be a tumor that forms and they could just chop off the leg. Think about that shit. Watch that, watch that Aaron Siri podcast on J R E. And it's the exact same racket in.

• 3:22:46Speaker 05

  Same, same.

• 3:22:46Speaker 04

  In the, in the pet, in the pet world.

• 3:22:48Speaker 05

  Who's the guy you had on? He was driving me fucking nuts. He was smart. I, I liked him. And he was talking about Epstein, but he kept kind of defending it.

• 3:22:55Speaker 01

  Michael Schellenberger.

• 3:22:56Speaker 05

  I, and I like, I was like, buddy? He was like, well, you're just jumping to conclusions there. It's like, well, you are too, though, dude.

• 3:23:03Speaker 04

  Yeah, whether he killed himself or like, uh, yeah, like, was it a suicide? Did he kill himself?

• 3:23:08Speaker 05

  And you're like, the cameras were down. He said, cameras go down all the time. It's like, well, now you're, you're making an exception for that, dude.

• 3:23:16Speaker 01

  Yeah, it was very weird.

• 3:23:17Speaker 04

  Yeah, that was weird.

• 3:23:17Speaker 05

  That was driving me fucking bonkers. I'm like, I was driving. I'm like, this dude's about to piss me off, man.

• 3:23:23Speaker 01

  Yeah, I don't know.

• 3:23:24Speaker 05

  I don't, I don't, I don't understand that.

• 3:23:26Speaker 01

  He's rational about most things, but that one was a weird one.

• 3:23:29Speaker 05

  He's like, the cameras go down all the time. It's like.

• 3:23:32Speaker 01

  Sometimes people like form an opinion and they stick with it.

• 3:23:35Speaker 05

  But he seemed like a smart dude. That's why I don't understand why guys do that.

• 3:23:38Speaker 01

  I mean, I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt.

• 3:23:39Speaker 05

  Me too.

• 3:23:40Speaker 01

  I'm trying to be very charitable.

• 3:23:41Speaker 05

  And you were like, the guards fell asleep too. He's like, that happens all the time. Like, buddy, listen to yourself. The cameras go down, the guards fall asleep. He, they leave him by himself. The guy before him tried to kill him and he was, he was a cop killer. All this is just normal to you?

• 3:23:57Speaker 01

  I know.

• 3:23:57Speaker 05

  And he was like, yeah.

• 3:23:58Speaker 01

  You know, even though when I was saying that, like, he said the cop tried to kill him. He was like, no, he tried to kill himself. Like, how the fuck do you know? How do you know? He said that his cellmate tried to kill him. His cellmate was a contract killer. His cellmate was a big giant fucking jack dude who'd killed four people. Who was a drug dealing cop. Like.

• 3:24:17Speaker 05

  And then he and then his but he comes he is rebuttal that he goes, yeah, but he's in max security like there's really bad guys in there. It's like, no, I know dude, but they paired him up with Epstein.

• 3:24:28Speaker 01

  Not only that, it's who was representing that guy Tartaglioni. There's like some shadiness to who was representing him was also connected to.

• 3:24:37Speaker 05

  And didn't the guard get money?

• 3:24:39Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 3:24:40Speaker 05

  There's really three. There's only three possibilities. Either he did commit suicide, uh, he got murdered, or he faked his death.

• 3:24:49Speaker 01

  The fake this death is interesting because the prostate thing, like they said that he had a prostatectomy in the files. He was talking to a doctor and he said, you had your prostate removed. He said, yes. It's like, well, you need to take erectile dysfunction drugs to get a an erection because you don't have a prostate. He says, correct. I don't have a prostate. So he's saying this in the emails. And then in the autopsy, they said they had an unremarkable prostate, which I said was the last thing I ever want anybody to say about my prostate.

• 3:25:15Speaker 05

  Yeah, I don't want.

• 3:25:16Speaker 01

  Unremarkable. Like, it's like, that was a nice one.

• 3:25:19Speaker 05

  Yeah, that thing was.

• 3:25:20Speaker 01

  He's dead as fuck.

• 3:25:20Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah, leave that out.

• 3:25:22Speaker 01

  Sweet prostate. So they removed his prostate, but yet in the autopsy, it says he has a prostate and it doesn't even say it's enlarged. Like they had to remove it.

• 3:25:32Speaker 05

  And did just Lane Maxwell's also is like, I don't think he killed himself.

• 3:25:36Speaker 01

  Bro, who?

• 3:25:37Speaker 05

  I I'm gonna lean on he faked his death.

• 3:25:39Speaker 01

  Did you see that Joe Kent interview with Tucker where Joe Kent, the guy that just resigned, was saying that they told him to stop investigating the Charlie Kirk assassination?

• 3:25:49Speaker 05

  Yeah, Tucker that?

• 3:25:50Speaker 01

  No, Joe Kent told him that.

• 3:25:52Speaker 05

  Tell Tucker.

• 3:25:53Speaker 01

  Told Tucker that they told him, Joe Kent, who was a high level intelligence guy to stop investigating the CIA or stop investigating whether the.

• 3:26:02Speaker 05

  Stop looking into it?

• 3:26:03Speaker 01

  Um, that's a Freudian slip right there.

• 3:26:05Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 3:26:05Speaker 01

  That that he was, uh, whatever happened to him. Stop looking into the death.

• 3:26:09Speaker 05

  What?

• 3:26:09Speaker 01

  That they they've got it. They'll take care of it. Get out of here.

• 3:26:12Speaker 04

  It's some JFK shit.

• 3:26:14Speaker 01

  It's weird. The whole thing's weird. There's so much weird shit with the files. There's weird shit with everything. You, you, there's no way you know exactly what's going on. No one does.

• 3:26:22Speaker 04

  Nobody does. But I just don't like when people just go, ah, come on, dude.

• 3:26:26Speaker 01

  I know.

• 3:26:26Speaker 04

  It's like, am I? Because when I add all this up, you just keep throwing that out. These are big things.

• 3:26:31Speaker 01

  How does he not have extra guards 24/7 watching over him? How do you let some just regular guard?

• 3:26:38Speaker 05

  Also, to your point, when he was saying he was suicidal, tried to kill himself, it's like, okay, let's say that's true. I don't believe that, but let's say it's true. Wouldn't you make sure there's guards so he can't kill himself?

• 3:26:47Speaker 04

  Right.

• 3:26:47Speaker 05

  A high profile? But also when he says that, oh, he was trying to kill himself. Like, no, his, he had his guard tried to kill him. He's like, no, he tried to commit suicide. How the fuck do you know?

• 3:26:59Speaker 04

  I know.

• 3:26:59Speaker 05

  And he's like, maybe he just said that so he could get, be alone. Like, or maybe the guy, actually the killer, tried to kill him.

• 3:27:05Speaker 04

  And no one's saying, anybody knows anything for sure, but to say, to, to strike down, yeah, like, anything's possible.

• 3:27:12Speaker 01

  Ridiculous. There's Volkanovsky.

• 3:27:15Speaker 05

  Oh, he's doing it. But the, the, the one thing that drove me nuts too is in the, when the email, when he goes, yeah, I'm out that late. She goes, yeah, you know, there's this guy sending kids to an island to have sex with him. He goes, it's me. He goes, he joked around all the time. It's like, buddy, what the fuck is going on here?

• 3:27:27Speaker 01

  That's not a joke. That's not something anybody jokes around about.

• 3:27:30Speaker 05

  I wanted to grab him, go, what?

• 3:27:32Speaker 01

  She almost fainted, but I told her that person was me.

• 3:27:35Speaker 05

  And he goes, he was a joker. He's a prankster. How do you know? How the fuck do you know?

• 3:27:40Speaker 01

  Alright.

• 3:27:40Speaker 05

  Alright, my bad. Had to say that.

• 3:27:42Speaker 01

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