Giggling about male spaces, demon hunters, and run clubs

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• 1:27Speaker 02

  Sup, giggly girls? Carrie, fix the Wi-Fi. Manifest that shit. We can't be managed.

• 1:37Speaker 02

  I mean, the day just got away from me.

• 1:40Hannah Berner?

  This podcast is starting at 11/11, which is where our spirit angels want us to be.

• 1:45Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, we're at the right place at the right time.

• 1:47Hannah Berner?

  Welcome, my giggly girls. I just chugged a Dunkin' refresher. Buckle up, babes.

• 1:53Paige DeSorbo?

  So, a lot will be edited.

• 1:58Hannah Berner?

  Um, how are you?

• 2:00Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm good. How are you?

• 2:02Hannah Berner?

  I'm good. I had.

• 2:03Paige DeSorbo?

  You had a full weekend. Every time I checked the internet, I was like, oh, and she's still working. And she's still working.

• 2:11Hannah Berner?

  I love when we have to go on the internet to find out about each other. I love when I get an update on you from the world wide web.

• 2:18Paige DeSorbo?

  The other day I commented on a video of you, but like there were no comments. There was like seven likes. I was like, she's perfect.

• 2:27Paige DeSorbo?

  Everyone's like, Paige, get out of the comments.

• 2:29Hannah Berner?

  My feed knows that I love you and I just, I'll get your like Amazon lives and I'm just like.

• 2:35Paige DeSorbo?

  Like anytime something like is about me that's going around the internet that's like not good, I'll call one of my friends and be like, are you getting this in your algorithm? And they'll be like, absolutely not. I've trained my algorithm to be obsessed with you.

• 2:46Hannah Berner?

  So you can check who's like low key a hater.

• 2:49Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 2:49Hannah Berner?

  If they know the negatives, but I'm no help because you'll be like, have you seen this? And I go, what planet are we on first of all? But no, I don't see any negativity. I see praise. I see comedy.

• 3:02Paige DeSorbo?

  I see loyalty. I see love.

• 3:04Hannah Berner?

  I see girls supporting girls.

• 3:06Paige DeSorbo?

  Um, speaking of girls supporting girls, you were with like eight million men this weekend. Are you okay?

• 3:13Hannah Berner?

  I've trained my whole life for this moment.

• 3:15Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 3:15Hannah Berner?

  Like I couldn't, I just want to say to the academy, I couldn't have done it alone. I felt everyone, the gigglers supporting this time. For you guys who don't know what I did this weekend, I got an email that was like, do you want to do stuff for the Ryder Cup? Which by the way, I love golf. Um, this is a sports podcast. It was a natural fit.

• 3:32Paige DeSorbo?

  I will say my first initial reaction was she's going to a horse competition. Jumping over different things and they're running.

• 3:42Hannah Berner?

  They're riding her.

• 3:43Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, and they're riding the cuff.

• 3:45Hannah Berner?

  And it was with, and they said Marcelo, who's a longtime friend and Colin Jost, who I've never met before. So I was like, this will be fun. I'm going to make new friends. So first up, the call time for three days was 3am.

• 4:00Hannah Berner?

  Now, I don't know if you guys know.

• 4:02Paige DeSorbo?

  That's illegal.

• 4:02Hannah Berner?

  Starting glam at three AM is a violent crime.

• 4:05Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 4:06Hannah Berner?

  Um, but then I realized there's something about waking up at three AM where like you're not actually that deep in sleep.

• 4:12Paige DeSorbo?

  Right. You haven't even hit REM.

• 4:14Hannah Berner?

  Uh, it's kind of like, you know, when you're like partying and you take a little nap, but then you like get up and you're like, yeah, I was, I actually didn't fully fall asleep anyway. I can go. So three AM was kind of my sweet spot.

• 4:24Paige DeSorbo?

  What time were you wait, going to bed?

• 4:27Hannah Berner?

  So the problem is I'd go to bed at like eight, but then I just like fight with my own thoughts and I'd like think of things that I've like done in the past that I probably like could have done differently.

• 4:38Paige DeSorbo?

  Perfect.

• 4:39Hannah Berner?

  But then I realized Dez loves watching the Mets and he was like, I'll watch the Met game. You go to bed. And I was like, no, no, no, the Mets put me to sleep.

• 4:47Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 4:47Hannah Berner?

  Come in here, watch the Mets.

• 4:49Paige DeSorbo?

  Perfect.

• 4:49Hannah Berner?

  So the Mets.

• 4:50Paige DeSorbo?

  He probably loved that. He was probably like, this is the dream. We're both asleep by eight PM.

• 4:57Hannah Berner?

  Oh, Dez was like, welcome to my culture.

• 5:00Paige DeSorbo?

  Let me show you what we have on the night side table at eight o'clock because it's very different than midnight.

• 5:06Hannah Berner?

  And for people that don't know, every night at like nine, Dez is like, are you tired? And I'm like, yeah. And he's like, you should just go to sleep now. And I'm like, no, my second wave comes at 10. Then I have a party like on my own. Like I have a whole life without you. When you go to sleep at nine PM.

• 5:19Paige DeSorbo?

  So you're, you're a couch person until like your eyes are closing.

• 5:25Hannah Berner?

  And then I've, I've sometimes will be naughty and just be like, what if I just.

• 5:30Paige DeSorbo?

  Slept on the couch.

• 5:30Hannah Berner?

  Slept on the couch. And then at three AM, I wake up.

• 5:33Paige DeSorbo?

  Because it's like having a sleepover with yourself.

• 5:36Hannah Berner?

  Yes. And you know what? At the end of the day, we're just having sleepovers with ourself every night.

• 5:41Paige DeSorbo?

  I went through a phase of anxiety where like I couldn't go to my bed.

• 5:45Hannah Berner?

  Without the TV on?

• 5:46Paige DeSorbo?

  Uh, no, just like in general, couldn't even like go in my bedroom and like get in the bed. Cause I was like.

• 5:52Hannah Berner?

  I've seen too much.

• 5:53Paige DeSorbo?

  I know too much. These, if these walls could talk.

• 5:58Paige DeSorbo?

  And so like I spent like a month on the couch and then one day I woke up and I go, I think this is depression.

• 6:04Hannah Berner?

  Also, what are sofas called that like have the long sectionals?

• 6:08Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 6:09Hannah Berner?

  Let's talk about sectionals, cuz.

• 6:10Paige DeSorbo?

  Let's. I've been waiting for someone to bring this up.

• 6:12Hannah Berner?

  I'm gonna bring it up cuz people are afraid to bring it up.

• 6:14Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 6:15Hannah Berner?

  Sectionals are single-handedly ruining my life.

• 6:17Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 6:17Hannah Berner?

  I wake up in the morning, lie on my sectional and think, I'm awake. Why am I so tired? Cuz you're not awake. You're in a different bed.

• 6:25Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 6:25Hannah Berner?

  That's just in your living room.

• 6:26Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 6:26Hannah Berner?

  And that's how I like to live my life.

• 6:29Paige DeSorbo?

  Mm-hmm.

• 6:29Hannah Berner?

  Um, but at night, it's so easy to fall asleep on my sectional.

• 6:33Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 6:34Hannah Berner?

  And then I'm like, why am I gonna wake up, brush my teeth to get more awake and then try to like, what kind of

• 6:39Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 6:40Hannah Berner?

  Hunger Games is this at night?

• 6:42Paige DeSorbo?

  You ever like wake up in the middle of the night and you're like, I have to pee, but I'm gonna be like woken up? So you try and do it with your eyes closed? Like you try and walk.

• 6:49Hannah Berner?

  And you don't turn the light on?

• 6:50Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, you're like, I'm gonna keep this darkness and maybe I'll, my brain will think I'm still asleep.

• 6:55Hannah Berner?

  And also, this is coming from two people who are very good at sleeping.

• 6:58Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 6:58Hannah Berner?

  Like, I know some comics who like can't sleep. I could, the second there's a moving vehicle, I'm out.

• 7:04Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, I'm done.

• 7:04Hannah Berner?

  Um, but the funny thing is.

• 7:07Paige DeSorbo?

  It's the second a man picks a movie, I'm asleep.

• 7:11Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm like, yeah, let's watch that. I could catch some Z's, you know?

• 7:17Paige DeSorbo?

  Isn't it right? Because any time they're like, I really wanna watch this, you're like, perfect, I'll be asleep in fifteen minutes.

• 7:22Hannah Berner?

  Well, Dez and I, some of our biggest fights are when we're trying to figure out what to watch and he'll be like very picky. And then at one point, it's like eight thirty and I look at him and I go, why are you even acting like you're even gonna fucking get to the like plot of this movie? You're falling asleep the first two minutes. You don't get an opinion.

• 7:36Paige DeSorbo?

  You know what's even a better feeling? Saying to a man like, hey, we're gonna watch the show. Them not being really into it and then twenty minutes in being like, I love. There's like a power that you feel that you're like, yeah, I knew, I knew you'd love the show.

• 7:51Hannah Berner?

  Or they go, like, why would she do that?

• 7:53Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 7:54Hannah Berner?

  Because I don't wanna say they're interested, but they're like trying to understand. They're like, oh, so that was cuz of that? And I'm like, you're in deep.

• 7:59Paige DeSorbo?

  Mm-hmm.

• 7:59Hannah Berner?

  I wished as we got into Nashville, but I haven't even tried to encroach him on it.

• 8:03Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 8:04Hannah Berner?

  Is that a word?

• 8:04Paige DeSorbo?

  Nice, nice use of encroach.

• 8:06Hannah Berner?

  Encroach, if it doesn't mean that, it should. So, um, what happened was I have trouble falling asleep when I know I need to fall asleep.

• 8:15Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 8:15Hannah Berner?

  Like when there's pressure involved, then I'm out. So I'm like having trouble falling asleep. I finally fall asleep at like eleven. I wake up at twelve thinking it's like two fifty-five.

• 8:27Paige DeSorbo?

  Mm-hmm.

• 8:27Hannah Berner?

  And yeah, I check, I realize I've been asleep for twenty minutes and I thought it was already three. So I wake up at three, it's pitch black. The, my girl's doing glam on me. I'm apologizing to her profusely because I'm like, this is my fault. You're here.

• 8:40Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 8:41Hannah Berner?

  And we get to the Ryder Cup and I've never been to a live golf game. And it, the energy was fucking insane. A golf tournament.

• 8:51Paige DeSorbo?

  Interesting. I would have assumed you've been to many. Peacock is listening to this. They're like, interesting.

• 8:58Hannah Berner?

  And that actually makes a lot of sense.

• 8:59Paige DeSorbo?

  And we should have done some research.

• 9:02Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, I love watching the golf channel because I am a retired old man, deep down. But watching golf live, there's, it's eighteen holes. And I have to say, I was looking out for you in terms of wag options.

• 9:15Paige DeSorbo?

  Aesthetics.

• 9:16Hannah Berner?

  Yes. Justin Thomas, who is one of the top US guys, his wife came up, said she's a gigler. Shout out Jillian, we're obsessed with you.

• 9:25Paige DeSorbo?

  She looks so cute on the green.

• 9:26Hannah Berner?

  But I have to say for Jillian, this is not a Morgan Riddle situation. This is not tennis. Morgan Riddle shows up, sits down.

• 9:35Paige DeSorbo?

  Seated.

• 9:36Hannah Berner?

  For three, four hours.

• 9:37Paige DeSorbo?

  Mm-hmm.

• 9:38Hannah Berner?

  And.

• 9:39Paige DeSorbo?

  There's waitresses.

• 9:39Hannah Berner?

  There's waitresses, the lighting is great.

• 9:41Paige DeSorbo?

  Gorgeous.

• 9:42Hannah Berner?

  There's, she doesn't have to deal with other people.

• 9:44Paige DeSorbo?

  No.

• 9:44Hannah Berner?

  These wags.

• 9:45Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, they're in the thick of it.

• 9:46Hannah Berner?

  Have to follow their husbands for miles.

• 9:50Paige DeSorbo?

  No.

• 9:50Hannah Berner?

  While surrounded by crazy France, fans who are like, like Rory McIlroy's wife was getting like verbally assaulted.

• 9:57Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 9:58Hannah Berner?

  And she.

• 9:58Paige DeSorbo?

  Well.

• 10:00Hannah Berner?

  And now you know what it's like being a woman.

• 10:02Paige DeSorbo?

  And I was just gonna say, that's interesting in a space full of thousands of men.

• 10:08Hannah Berner?

  The women are getting.

• 10:09Paige DeSorbo?

  Ah, heckled.

• 10:10Hannah Berner?

  Heckled.

• 10:11Paige DeSorbo?

  Interesting.

• 10:11Hannah Berner?

  Interesting. She's not even there performing.

• 10:13Paige DeSorbo?

  She's, she's like, hi, I'm a supportive patron.

• 10:15Hannah Berner?

  And then I was just thinking of the wags because all the European wags are wearing these tan blazers. They're all matching. Like, and then all the American wags were wearing blue cardigans.

• 10:26Paige DeSorbo?

  Always America versus.

• 10:27Hannah Berner?

  Versus Europe, which is funny because I'm like, okay, so it's one country versus.

• 10:31Paige DeSorbo?

  Thirty-five countries.

• 10:32Hannah Berner?

  Who knows? Who knows? Um, but that's how it worked out.

• 10:35Paige DeSorbo?

  Does anyone know?

• 10:36Hannah Berner?

  I kept asking everyone of Spain's in Europe and they were like, "What are you talking about ma'am?" And I was like, "I don't know. I actually don't know."

• 10:44Paige DeSorbo?

  No, you did so good. Like, every clip I saw of you was so good. And I'm sitting there like, watching like edits of you.

• 10:54Paige DeSorbo?

  And I had this thought. I know why you did so good because you, you love being in male-dominated spaces. And being like, "Wait a minute, I'm gonna trick all of you into literally being my bitch." Like, you were like interviewing them, but they didn't know that you were making fun of them. Like, the satire, it was just so good.

• 11:19Hannah Berner?

  Thank you so much.

• 11:21Paige DeSorbo?

  You're welcome.

• 11:21Hannah Berner?

  Thank you so much because I was in a war. And the gigglers were messaging me, they were like, "Blink if you need help."

• 11:26Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 11:26Hannah Berner?

  But I love golf to my core. And I also love disrupting male spaces. So you're so right, I was in the thick of it. But let me just set the stage for you. It's pitch black. It's 5:45 PM.

• 11:39Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 11:39Hannah Berner?

  They put a mic on me. AM, sorry, AM. And they go, "You're gonna go into the grandstand." And I'm like, "No one's gonna be here at 5:45." Five thousand people. We're in the grandstand, pitch black. So I'm like, it feels like it's nighttime.

• 11:53Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, and men don't notice little details? They've literally planned, figured out carpooling to be somewhere at 5:45 on a Saturday morning.

• 12:05Hannah Berner?

  You don't know your own mother's birthday, but you've navigated organizing all your friends' outfits.

• 12:10Paige DeSorbo?

  I was just gonna say, matching costumes.

• 12:13Hannah Berner?

  Matching costumes. They've rehearsed chants. They, they're so fucking ready. So I get there and I'm, I realize like, I'm, I'm surrounded by five thousand drunk men at 5:45.

• 12:28Paige DeSorbo?

  Also, I'm like really hating men today. I don't know why. I had a nice weekend. Um, here's another thing with the men. They get so many life breaks. So all of the weekend during fall, Saturday and Sunday, dedicated to them. Then they've even added Monday and Thursday, dedicated to them. Then, there's a day on the weekend where they're like, "I really wanna go with my boys golfing." Great, go. Like, I don't give a shit.

• 12:53Paige DeSorbo?

  But no one ever talks about like if you're a mom and a wife and your husband goes and does these like activities with his friends, totally fine, have the best time ever. But they, there's no, there's no equivalent. Like there's so many days built into the week that just instinctually, you know, like, oh yeah, the guys are gonna be like, or like, you ever been out before and like, plans change, pre-games change, club nights change, because it's like, oh, there's a fight on. It's like every guy in America is at some bar watching some fight and you're like, but I have an outfit and we have dinner reservations.

• 13:26Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, well, yeah, there's certain things, society will like stop for whatever the men want to do.

• 13:32Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, they're like, no, this is like camaraderie.

• 13:34Hannah Berner?

  The girls do it, they're like, influencing's not a real job.

• 13:36Paige DeSorbo?

  No, literally, it's like, oh god, god forbid we go to a beauty summit.

• 13:40Hannah Berner?

  But I do have to say, so there's a couple like golf influencers out there that I wasn't familiar with, never came across my algorithm.

• 13:47Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 13:48Hannah Berner?

  And there were like all these crowds, like all excited to see these golf influencers. So I looked it up and I, so this is what men do. They watch YouTubes of non-professional players, like, normal golfers, golf with each other. So I, I went up to one of the guys and I was like, so, it's like Twitch, like, other guys watch you and your friends play golf instead of them just playing golf with their friends. And they were like, yeah, like, we're just like their favorite, their favorite streamers. But then I took a step back and I realized, I hate when men come up to us and they're like, so you guys like just talk about stuff? You just talk about stuff with each other and people like Giggly Squad?

• 14:27Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 14:28Hannah Berner?

  Then I realized like, that's their culture.

• 14:30Paige DeSorbo?

  That's their culture.

• 14:31Hannah Berner?

  That's their culture. And like, people, and girls listen to us, because we all have the same sense of humor. But men's sense of humor, sometime, Chris, do you ever watch other men just do stuff that aren't professional at it?

• 14:42Speaker 05

  Yeah, it's called podcasting.

• 14:44Hannah Berner?

  Podcast, you listen on men's podcasts?

• 14:47Speaker 05

  I have to, it's my job.

• 14:48Paige DeSorbo?

  I was gonna say porn. Chris loves amateur. He's like, it's just more real.

• 14:56Hannah Berner?

  If we're getting into, if we're getting into it, can I just say something?

• 14:59Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 15:00Hannah Berner?

  Guys definitely pick the porn based on the guy.

• 15:04Speaker 05

  What do you mean by that?

• 15:05Hannah Berner?

  Like, would you ever like not click on one because a guy looks a type of way?

• 15:09Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 15:10Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 15:11Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 15:11Hannah Berner?

  And sometimes they're like, I like that one.

• 15:13Paige DeSorbo?

  It's funny.

• 15:14Hannah Berner?

  You're not, because I pick a girl.

• 15:16Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, based on what I like her to look like.

• 15:19Hannah Berner?

  I want Dez to pick porn based on girls who look identical to me.

• 15:24Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 15:25Hannah Berner?

  And then sometimes I feel like I want porn.

• 15:27Paige DeSorbo?

  Men aren't even in my porn algorithm.

• 15:29Hannah Berner?

  No, I don't want to see a man. I don't want to see a man having sex. That's disgusting.

• 15:34Paige DeSorbo?

  That's disgusting. It's disgusting.

• 15:39Hannah Berner?

  So like, they ruined the porn.

• 15:41Paige DeSorbo?

  It's like so embarrassing for them.

• 15:43Hannah Berner?

  Because it's so easy to get the ick from guys from porn, like them even being like, yeah, I'm like, I'm out.

• 15:49Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 15:49Hannah Berner?

  Like him going, oh yeah, I'm out.

• 15:51Paige DeSorbo?

  We don't talk about this enough either. Like, I could in my head picture like four porn girls that like I've seen in the past 15 years. That like you just always see gorgeous stunning. I couldn't picture one good looking guy porn star. Like, I don't think I've ever come across one.

• 16:10Hannah Berner?

  I know.

• 16:10Paige DeSorbo?

  I also don't look for them. So they could be out there, I'm just not seeing it.

• 16:14Hannah Berner?

  It's none of my business.

• 16:15Paige DeSorbo?

  Anyway, we digress.

• 16:16Hannah Berner?

  We digress.

• 16:17Paige DeSorbo?

  It's officially fall because Banana Republic said so. One of my favorite stores, because I feel like they have such good like vibe for fall. Like, I want chunky sweater and miniskirt.

• 16:30Hannah Berner?

  Yes.

• 16:30Paige DeSorbo?

  I want to wear a ballet flat or a boot.

• 16:33Hannah Berner?

  Yes. A little chill, but then you get your sweater around and you're just like, I'm so little. I want to wear a sweater dress with a high boot.

• 16:40Paige DeSorbo?

  Yep.

• 16:40Hannah Berner?

  And just like run around, I'm stomping on leaves.

• 16:43Paige DeSorbo?

  Fake glasses on.

• 16:44Hannah Berner?

  Yes, and look like I just finished reading a book.

• 16:47Paige DeSorbo?

  Yes.

• 16:48Hannah Berner?

  Even though I don't have a book.

• 16:49Paige DeSorbo?

  And you have like the perfect hair color for fall.

• 16:52Hannah Berner?

  I didn't want to say it, but it is, it is. And it goes well with all the sweater colors. It's sweater weather. Also, I like when the sweaters are like not. Itchy and they have like a little stretch to them and it feels comfortable. I want to be able to take a nap in them after walking around playing with the leaves, which is what I do in the fall. I also love a knit dress because I can wear it to podcasting. Then I could go to dinner with it. Then I come home and like watch TV in it.

• 17:19Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 17:19Hannah Berner?

  It's so versatile.

• 17:20Paige DeSorbo?

  The fall in general, I feel like is versatile because you can add so many layers. And Banana Republic, not only do they have like great sweaters, sweater dresses, but they also have like good T-shirts and tank tops and basics. And like, they also have really good button ups. Like, I'm always on the hunt for a new crisp white.

• 17:39Hannah Berner?

  They're not all created equal.

• 17:40Paige DeSorbo?

  They're not. You need some oversized. You need some fitted.

• 17:43Hannah Berner?

  This is my question.

• 17:44Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 17:45Hannah Berner?

  Do you button it up to the top?

• 17:47Paige DeSorbo?

  Sometimes if the look calls for it.

• 17:48Hannah Berner?

  True, like if you need a tie.

• 17:49Paige DeSorbo?

  Yes.

• 17:50Hannah Berner?

  Yes.

• 17:51Paige DeSorbo?

  If you need a tie.

• 17:52Hannah Berner?

  A little tie with a cardigan. And their new arrivals are all inspired by their archives.

• 17:57Paige DeSorbo?

  Of the nineties and kind of like their heritage collection, which I love anything inspired by the nineties. It was a chic time.

• 18:05Hannah Berner?

  So good.

• 18:06Paige DeSorbo?

  But obviously Banana Republic has made them fresh, wearable for today, just updated.

• 18:11Hannah Berner?

  Yes. So let's present our October edit. What are you wearing right now?

• 18:16Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm wearing this, I don't even want to say it's orange because it's like an orangey red. It's just the perfect October sweater.

• 18:23Hannah Berner?

  You're gonna, the internet's gonna be so confused. This is the new, is it blue or gold dress? It's, to me, it's burnt, burnt orange, but red.

• 18:32Paige DeSorbo?

  It's giving orange red. Orange is red.

• 18:35Hannah Berner?

  The way you're saying orange is throwing me off. Orange.

• 18:38Paige DeSorbo?

  And it's also a blend of wool and cashmere. I find fully wool, I get a little bit itchy.

• 18:45Hannah Berner?

  Oh, a hundred percent.

• 18:47Paige DeSorbo?

  I need a little bit of a blend.

• 18:47Hannah Berner?

  A hundred percent. You need a blend of merino wool and cashmere. What's your skirt?

• 18:52Paige DeSorbo?

  My skirt is just like this really cute suede, like again, chocolate brown. Chocolate brown goes with every color.

• 19:00Hannah Berner?

  Yes.

• 19:00Paige DeSorbo?

  You can put chocolate brown with anything.

• 19:02Hannah Berner?

  I am wearing my warm sweater dress. I love neutral colors. This beige and tan, I just feel like it's giving rich. It's giving luxury and you could wear it with anything.

• 19:12Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 19:13Hannah Berner?

  Um, you could dress it up with heels. You could dress it down with loafers. I love that it has a tie waist and a side slit. I love showing a little waist. My mom told me to show my curves more, so she's gonna be happy about this dress.

• 19:25Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, good.

• 19:26Hannah Berner?

  Yeah. So, girls, go shop Banana Republic's new arrivals. They are online and in the stores. High-quality fabric, versatile. It's made for fall, but you can keep them and wear forever.

• 19:37Paige DeSorbo?

  Banana Republic is actually one of those stores that it's nice to go into because it's always clean and neat.

• 19:42Hannah Berner?

  And we love that.

• 19:43Paige DeSorbo?

  That's what I need to make.

• 19:43Hannah Berner?

  And it makes me feel like I have my stuff together. This brand and segment was brought to you by the one and only Banana Republic.

• 19:51Hannah Berner?

  So at one point, I get in the crowd and we have to find people to interview. And the, the producer is like, hi, guys. This is Hannah. She's gonna send you some interviews. The guys all start chanting Hannah. And in that moment, I've never been more scared of my life.

• 20:06Paige DeSorbo?

  I was like, I wanna be out. That's, um, if this was at a quad, I'd be running. Like, if this was in a college campus, I'd have the police.

• 20:14Hannah Berner?

  I'm calling the police.

• 20:15Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I'm going to the police.

• 20:16Hannah Berner?

  I'm calling the police. I looked at the producer. I said, something's gonna happen right now and I'm gonna need everyone on all high alert. And it's funny because I feel like the producers were like, oh, this is a different kind of situation.

• 20:25Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 20:25Hannah Berner?

  But then there's always like one giggler that I find. And she looked at me. I looked at her and she was like, you can do this. I'm here for you. And I was like, okay. But it's true. The men don't, they like, I, I think that's the fun of it. Like, I, I don't wanna make them feel like shit. Like, I wanna make them feel like they can talk to me.

• 20:44Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 20:45Hannah Berner?

  But, and then say whatever they want. But these guys were like, we got away from our wives. Yeah, we got away from our wives. And I was like, gay, babe. You're all like, we just wanna hang out with each other because these goddamn women.

• 20:57Paige DeSorbo?

  And Marcelo said something where he was like, I've never seen grown men like flirt with other grown men to be like, hey, bro, you're over here.

• 21:06Hannah Berner?

  Scotty, like, Scotty, look at you.

• 21:08Paige DeSorbo?

  And I was like, oh, my God, he's so right.

• 21:11Hannah Berner?

  I do love fandom and I love that people can love something and like instantly get joy from it.

• 21:16Paige DeSorbo?

  Totally.

• 21:17Hannah Berner?

  But they're, like, when I was in college, When a guy was like obsessed with one of the guys on the basketball team.

• 21:24Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 21:24Hannah Berner?

  It was like immediate ick for me just cuz I'm like, he's your age, you could have done that.

• 21:28Paige DeSorbo?

  No, that's exactly how I think of it, like when.

• 21:32Hannah Berner?

  If you got a couple of pushups in middle school.

• 21:34Paige DeSorbo?

  Like wow, he's like so good, he's like, he's a rookie of the year, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, you're the same age, like you could have done that.

• 21:41Hannah Berner?

  It's totally great to like, respect them and to appreciate them, be like, by the way, yeah, that guy's really cool. But the way they'll be like, if he fucking looks in my direction right now, well, pay him also. They're, everyone's obsessed with Bryson DeChambeau, which I would go around asking people if they could spell DeChambeau, which obviously they couldn't. Neither could I. Um, but then this one guy, I don't know if I should post the video or not cuz I actually feel bad for him.

• 22:03Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 22:04Hannah Berner?

  So he goes, I said, who are you rooting for? And he goes, you know, I get hard for Bryson. And then he immediately stops himself and I look at him, he looks at me and he goes, no, I didn't mean it like that. And I go Freudian slip, he goes, I'm excited, cheer hard for Bryson. And I go, still doesn't sound better. But like, these guys wanna fuck Bryson.

• 22:23Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, they do.

• 22:25Hannah Berner?

  Like when he gets on, they're like, it's Bryson.

• 22:27Paige DeSorbo?

  I've never seen any men get up for something at five AM other than a court date. Like what, I mean, what are the, how did they all?

• 22:37Hannah Berner?

  Court mandated therapy.

• 22:38Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, how did they all coordinate that?

• 22:40Hannah Berner?

  A bunch of men coming together for, to root for a guy named Bryson, America's over.

• 22:45Paige DeSorbo?

  No, we're done. We're in the pits.

• 22:47Hannah Berner?

  We're done. He is, if he has a Y early in his name, we're done. That man can't be trusted. So, uh, but also with golf, like these guys, I love the passion, they were so riled up, but like, they're seeing this guy hit a tee shot, right? By the way, the ball's the tiniest ball in the world, no one can see where it goes.

• 23:03Paige DeSorbo?

  So like, why aren't they lime green? Hello? I'm like, what?

• 23:07Hannah Berner?

  Why aren't, why aren't they highlighter colored?

• 23:09Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 23:09Hannah Berner?

  Pink. I think sparkles.

• 23:11Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, do something. I can't see that.

• 23:13Hannah Berner?

  I can't see it, right into the sky, gone. But everyone's like quiet for the guy to go. And then the ball goes. And everyone goes, ah, and I'm like, no one dunked. Like, there wasn't, like, there wasn't a homerun. This was a, and it, it wasn't even the hole.

• 23:27Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 23:27Hannah Berner?

  So, um, I love golf. And it was such a crazy experience. I saw Jimmy Fallon.

• 23:33Paige DeSorbo?

  How was he?

• 23:34Hannah Berner?

  He, he was like-

• 23:36Paige DeSorbo?

  Was he in a costume?

• 23:37Hannah Berner?

  He was wearing like a cool jacket. Jimmy's always a little stylish and he's fun. So I saw him, I was like, hey, me and Paige say hi, whatever. Um, I'm trying to think what else. I saw Michael Jordan.

• 23:49Paige DeSorbo?

  You did.

• 23:50Hannah Berner?

  From afar, I just stared at him the whole time.

• 23:52Paige DeSorbo?

  Do you know that Michael Jordan has a golf?

• 23:55Hannah Berner?

  He loves golf.

• 23:56Paige DeSorbo?

  Course, like, that he made just for like him and his friends?

• 24:01Paige DeSorbo?

  Like, I don't thi- I think it has like maybe a hundred members, but it, and obviously, I don't think any women are allowed. But we saw that coming.

• 24:10Hannah Berner?

  I do. Uh, Space Jam's my favorite movie. So like, I was in Starstruck, and that is a- Also basketball players, when you see them in person, you're like, damn, like, they are large men. Like, when you see famous people in person, you go, and you're the tiniest thing I've ever seen. But basketball's like the opposite, because you see them-

• 24:29Paige DeSorbo?

  I love that, because I'm like, I'm so skinny.

• 24:31Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, and you see, you see basketball players always with their friends.

• 24:35Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 24:35Hannah Berner?

  So you can't tell that they're small.

• 24:37Paige DeSorbo?

  Right.

• 24:37Hannah Berner?

  Such a fun experience. I just had the best time. I just like love sports.

• 24:42Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, you do.

• 24:43Hannah Berner?

  And then the gigglers-

• 24:43Paige DeSorbo?

  It's so crazy.

• 24:45Hannah Berner?

  I love sports so much.

• 24:46Paige DeSorbo?

  Watching clips of you, I'm like, she loves this.

• 24:48Hannah Berner?

  Also, I feel like with stand-up, you have to be, actually, Amy Poehler told us this, to quote the great Amy Poehler. In her show that she does with Tina Fey, they do all these different things. They do like Weekend Update, and they do like, um, their Oscars, um, monologue. They do all these things, and there's a part where they do stand-up. And Amy was like, stand-up was actually the most interesting thing to do for me, because she's like, it was the most vulnerable, because I had to be myself. And I, because she's like an improv actor, and I'm like, I never thought of it like that.

• 25:18Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, like, you're talking about, you're talking about stories from your own day to day.

• 25:20Hannah Berner?

  You're just like, hi, this is me, let me tell you some stuff. You're not like, I'm a character. Oh, that was the character that said that. But with- The sports reporting, it's fun, cause like, well, my dream after tennis shit the bed was to be a sports reporter.

• 25:36Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 25:36Hannah Berner?

  If you come to our Giggly Squad shows, you know, we show some footage. But I really wanted to be like a sports reporter. So it was funny to, I kind of tried to like be that character.

• 25:48Paige DeSorbo?

  Back to you in the studio, Colin.

• 25:50Hannah Berner?

  Loving it. Like the guys would start, oh, they also would start chanting.

• 25:54Paige DeSorbo?

  I also loved that you wore like that navy blue little bear sweater, perfect for like early morning.

• 25:59Hannah Berner?

  Shout out to Ralph Lauren.

• 26:01Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 26:01Hannah Berner?

  It was so cute. The bear had little golf clubs.

• 26:03Paige DeSorbo?

  Shout out Ralph.

• 26:04Hannah Berner?

  I felt adorable. Also, when I put a collared shirt.

• 26:07Paige DeSorbo?

  Under a sweater.

• 26:08Hannah Berner?

  Under a sweater. I mean, business.

• 26:10Paige DeSorbo?

  You have a money manager.

• 26:12Hannah Berner?

  I'm not fucking around.

• 26:13Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 26:13Hannah Berner?

  No, like I know, I know things.

• 26:16Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 26:17Hannah Berner?

  And I feel like also when I, the difficult, the most difficult thing about live TV is like you have people in your ear.

• 26:23Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 26:24Hannah Berner?

  And, but I'm also chatty Cathy, so I'm chatting with everyone. Someone's in my ear. I'm like, I'm not listening to that.

• 26:29Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 26:29Hannah Berner?

  And.

• 26:32Paige DeSorbo?

  Just a Tuesday, am I right?

• 26:35Hannah Berner?

  I have eighteen different things in my head right now. But also, it is fun though, cause if someone starts talking to you that you're like, don't wanna talk to, like. I go, sorry, someone's in my ear. No one's, it's like when you fake a phone call.

• 26:45Paige DeSorbo?

  Yep. Um, you're like, so sorry, I'm working.

• 26:47Hannah Berner?

  But then people would start chanting around me. And if you yell into the mic, it sounds crazy, but they can't hear you unless you yell.

• 26:55Paige DeSorbo?

  Right.

• 26:55Hannah Berner?

  So I was like navigating all the yelling. But um, I felt like I was back at Wisconsin at a Big Ten.

• 27:01Paige DeSorbo?

  No, it looked like fun. Who won?

• 27:05Hannah Berner?

  So Europe ended up winning.

• 27:07Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay.

• 27:07Hannah Berner?

  Europe won. The Irish guy, Shane Lowry, sunk a putt to do, to do it, I believe.

• 27:14Paige DeSorbo?

  Good for Shane.

• 27:15Hannah Berner?

  I was.

• 27:16Paige DeSorbo?

  Heavy for him.

• 27:17Hannah Berner?

  So anyway, oh, and then I also flew to Lady Gang, Florida.

• 27:21Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, for a couple hours.

• 27:22Hannah Berner?

  For, I went on stage forty-five minutes, yelled at a bunch of girls, had so much fun.

• 27:27Paige DeSorbo?

  Got on a flight, came back.

• 27:28Hannah Berner?

  Saw us Taylor Strucker and Taylor Donahue.

• 27:30Paige DeSorbo?

  No, the girls are working.

• 27:31Hannah Berner?

  The girls are working. And then you've been giving speeches across America. You are Mel Robbins.

• 27:37Paige DeSorbo?

  I am.

• 27:38Hannah Berner?

  Of Hot Girls.

• 27:43Paige DeSorbo?

  And like, actually, don't let them and then murder them.

• 27:47Hannah Berner?

  And this is how you put together a set, okay?

• 27:53Hannah Berner?

  She goes, I know you don't want to, but you just go put them together, okay?

• 27:56Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay.

• 27:56Hannah Berner?

  And this is how you walk in a kitten heel.

• 27:58Paige DeSorbo?

  So many giggly squad coded things happened at Harvard that I was just like, yeah, of course.

• 28:03Hannah Berner?

  Why don't you tell me everything?

• 28:05Paige DeSorbo?

  So first of all, like, would you really come to Harvard and like, talk to, they have like, an entertainment club who like, gets all of their speakers. So like, anyone can go and like, listen to any of those talks. So I would say it was like a hundred business school students, primarily like, all girls. But I walk in there and I'm like, a little nervous. And then like, I see the room and I'm like, oh, this is gonna be fine. This is just like, the girls chatting. And so, we're like, talking and then there's like, a time for like, a Q and A. And this one girl raises her hand and I look at her and I go, are your glasses real?

• 28:39Paige DeSorbo?

  And she looks at me like, yeah, bitch, I go to Harvard. They're fucking rea-

• 28:44Hannah Berner?

  And she goes, why would you come for my weak eyesight right now in front of everyone?

• 28:49Paige DeSorbo?

  She was so confused at first. She was like, my gla- I go, yeah, are they real? Or like, is it like trendy? And she was like, no, these are my glasses. And I was just like, okay, sorry.

• 29:01Hannah Berner?

  She goes, sorry, my vision is not a trend.

• 29:03Paige DeSorbo?

  I was like, I haven't, I love what you're doing. They're like, clear frames. I, like, she's about to ask me a question. I'm just like, where did you get that?

• 29:10Hannah Berner?

  I love this aesthetic that you have.

• 29:12Paige DeSorbo?

  And like, what is this bookworm like vibe you're giving? And she's like, no, this is me. I'm like, okay.

• 29:19Hannah Berner?

  It's giving smart girl. You're in your head being like, wait, how do I replicate that? I love.

• 29:25Paige DeSorbo?

  Cause all day, I'm like, what, what a Harvard student would wear? Like, I'm cosplaying.

• 29:30Hannah Berner?

  You dress up for themes.

• 29:32Paige DeSorbo?

  Yes. Like, I'm going in there as someone different. I'm going in there as an adjunct professor. Like, I have things to do. I live in Cambridge. Like, I'm coming up with a whole scenario. So then like, talk is over. I'm like, walking out. These gigglers run up to me and they go, guess what? And I go, what? They go, we don't even go here.

• 29:56Paige DeSorbo?

  And I'm like, this is the most giggly squad thing. She was like, yeah, we heard you were coming. And so we just walked in the door and I go, as you should, it's a free country.

• 30:04Hannah Berner?

  The gigglers are problem solvers. They, they don't, they're manifestors. They will never be told no.

• 30:10Paige DeSorbo?

  They're like pages at Harvard? Cool. We just applied. What of it?

• 30:14Hannah Berner?

  We just graduated.

• 30:15Paige DeSorbo?

  I was like, this just made my whole day.

• 30:17Hannah Berner?

  I'll do college gigs and there'll be girls in the crowd after that are like, we're millennials. We just, you know, want to enjoy the show.

• 30:27Hannah Berner?

  Wait, when you walked into Harvard, were you like, cause Harvard is iconic, like how it looked, did you feel like, was this?

• 30:33Paige DeSorbo?

  I felt immediately like Elwood's. I was just like Rory Gilmore really fucked up going to Yale. It's all about Harvard. Like I was obsessed. They gave me a hat.

• 30:42Hannah Berner?

  We're sponsored by Harvard, guys. If you want to apply, use the code PAGE20.

• 30:47Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm hoping that one day I can be successful enough that they'll give me an honorary degree and then it's like.

• 30:53Hannah Berner?

  This game over.

• 30:54Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. It's like, sorry, she went to Harvard.

• 30:55Hannah Berner?

  I do want to appreciate this full circle moment for both of us, me becoming a sports reporter and you. I'm just going to say, like, you didn't even like, apply to Harvard.

• 31:06Paige DeSorbo?

  No.

• 31:07Hannah Berner?

  Like that wasn't in your vision board and not because you didn't respect it more because you were like, that's not my journey.

• 31:12Paige DeSorbo?

  I never thought, I never thought there'd be a group of people significantly smarter than me, asking me advice. Never in my days.

• 31:20Hannah Berner?

  And the fact that you were like, I could never get into Harvard. Like you've probably thought that thought before.

• 31:27Paige DeSorbo?

  You know, I knew I could never get into Harvard that I didn't even have that thought.

• 31:32Paige DeSorbo?

  It was never a debate. I, I just thought, what a pretty school. So happy that they went with Crimson. No one's doing that.

• 31:39Paige DeSorbo?

  You know, like I never thought, like, could I, could I not? It was like, we ain't cheap.

• 31:44Hannah Berner?

  You go, H is my best friend's first name. So I kind of like the vibe. No. So the fact that you're there. Is so fucking cool. And it shows people like, you don't even know what dreams you can accomplish.

• 31:57Paige DeSorbo?

  No. And also I realized that my love, my love language is.

• 32:03Paige DeSorbo?

  Different events and finding the perfect outfit that just like goes along with that event. So then the next day I had to go speak at this like Klavio like conference type thing. And I was like, what would a speaker with a headset wear? And I was like, a pillbox hat. Like, I literally called up everyone. I was like, I need all the hats.

• 32:26Hannah Berner?

  Back up, back up, back up. How did you know what a pillbox hat was? Cause I don't. What was the inspiration behind a pillbox hat?

• 32:34Paige DeSorbo?

  So pillbox hats started trending last fall.

• 32:38Hannah Berner?

  Okay.

• 32:38Paige DeSorbo?

  I didn't have an opportunity to wear one. I didn't have like the right venue. I couldn't find the perfect pillbox hat. It's very like Jackie O.

• 32:46Hannah Berner?

  Yes.

• 32:47Paige DeSorbo?

  She wears them a little bit more on the back of her head. I like the London Tipton look and I like looking like a bellhop and having it like right in the front. And so my whole personality that day was I was wearing a hat. And like even I'm up there on stage speaking and I'm like, well, since I'm in a hat today.

• 33:04Hannah Berner?

  Let me ask my hat. Hold on one second.

• 33:06Paige DeSorbo?

  No, literally, I was the Hogwarts like hat sorter. I was like, you're Slytherin, yes. Like my hat was perfection.

• 33:16Hannah Berner?

  As someone who can't pull off a basic baseball cap, when you put that on, I was like, this is otherworldly. Like I couldn't, that was like you thinking of Harvard is me thinking about you wearing that hat.

• 33:27Paige DeSorbo?

  And then I'm looking for the bathroom and there's like camera people. I think they were like filming it for like their own internal whatever. And I like turned to one of the camera operators just to be like, hey, do you know where the bathroom is? Summer House camera guy.

• 33:39Hannah Berner?

  No.

• 33:39Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. I was like, oh my god.

• 33:42Hannah Berner?

  You go, how the turntables have turned.

• 33:44Paige DeSorbo?

  I was like, look at us.

• 33:45Hannah Berner?

  Look at us.

• 33:46Paige DeSorbo?

  Look at us just at Harvard.

• 33:49Hannah Berner?

  We were about to go to the camera guy being like, can you send some clips? Because I really thought I looked good in that.

• 33:55Paige DeSorbo?

  They did seat me on my wrong side, but like on my bad side, but I was just, but I was like, wait, I was like, I'm in a hat, so it's fine.

• 34:01Hannah Berner?

  You decided you have a bad side?

• 34:03Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, I've taken on the role you've given me.

• 34:07Hannah Berner?

  Wait, I caused you to have an insecurity about one of your sides? No, don't, no.

• 34:11Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I have to be on this side.

• 34:13Hannah Berner?

  That's not true. I don't want my.

• 34:16Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, I wouldn't get to saying that because if I ever want to switch, you'll be like, it's actually your bad side.

• 34:22Hannah Berner?

  Actually, I will use it against you. I love that the gigglers are so aware when we're standing that we're always on our sides.

• 34:29Paige DeSorbo?

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• 35:31Hannah Berner?

  The Columbia Amaze Puff Jacket is so iconic because I feel so encapsulated and warm, but it's so light.

• 35:39Paige DeSorbo?

  Great use of "encapsulated".

• 35:40Hannah Berner?

  I know.

• 35:41Paige DeSorbo?

  I went whimsical. My jacket is the Tea Light Pearl Shine, and it really does give Tea Light Pearl Shine.

• 35:48Hannah Berner?

  It gives it.

• 35:49Paige DeSorbo?

  It's sunny.

• 35:49Hannah Berner?

  Honey, and mine's black.

• 35:53Paige DeSorbo?

  Because sometimes in the winter, you just see all the same colors. And I'm like, "Okay, but let me throw like a gosh on with my puffer coat and let me have it be fun colors."

• 36:02Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, because you like a coat to be part of the outfit,

• 36:05Paige DeSorbo?

  It's the outfit.

• 36:06Hannah Berner?

  Not ruining the outfit. But also, I hate when you put on coats and then you're like stiff. You guys, I literally could swim in this.

• 36:12Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, it feels like it's light, but it's also extremely warm.

• 36:17Hannah Berner?

  It's not overpriced.

• 36:18Paige DeSorbo?

  No.

• 36:19Hannah Berner?

  And we love giving the Gigglers a good deal. And it has space for layering. Like, you don't feel like it's tight, so I can layer a lot.

• 36:26Paige DeSorbo?

  Which is very important, because there's nothing worse than like layering and you're stiff and then you're sweating and it's like a cold sweat and it's like, no.

• 36:32Hannah Berner?

  No.

• 36:32Paige DeSorbo?

  And I love that it has these things for your hands, because I really use them with my thumbs. I love when jackets have this.

• 36:40Hannah Berner?

  So cute. And they have all different length options for what you prefer, depending on how long your torso is. Visit columbia.com to get your hands on an Amaze Puff Jacket.

• 36:50Paige DeSorbo?

  It's tough on cold, soft on you.

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• 37:48Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, also this weekend while you were like literally running the world. I woke up Saturday morning. I'm like, let me get a day in. Let me like do my own thing. I wake up Saturday morning. It's 8:00 a.m. I'm going to get a facial at 8:30. It's the only time she could get me in. I'm like, but I love this. No one's up that early on a Saturday morning except the girls coming and going from Pilates and bisexual men.

• 38:13Hannah Berner?

  Yep.

• 38:14Paige DeSorbo?

  Like that's the only people that are on the streets.

• 38:16Hannah Berner?

  Yep.

• 38:17Paige DeSorbo?

  So I get out of my Uber. I'm like 15 minutes early. So I'm looking at my phone to like, see what time it is. I'm standing, I'm standing closer to the entrance of the building than I am to the street. I'm not in the middle of the sidewalk, but I'm not like right up to like the entrance of the building. So I'm like right.

• 38:34Hannah Berner?

  Okay, there's a lot of visuals.

• 38:37Hannah Berner?

  She goes, I'm seven yards to the right. Let me drop a pin for you.

• 38:42Paige DeSorbo?

  Ready? I'm me, you're you. So I'm not in the middle of the sidewalk, but I'm not like, there's also no one on the sidewalk. I'm like looking at my phone to see if I should go up yet, or like what apartment number is it, whatever. And I just hear someone say, heads up. And I turn, I'm like, I turn, I literally get turned around because all of the sudden, charging at me is thirty people in a fucking run club. Okay, I literally audibly go, what the fuck is this?

• 39:20Hannah Berner?

  You got shot.

• 39:21Paige DeSorbo?

  I literally was, I was assaulted, I was burglarized, I was thrown on the street. Like, I literally turned with the motion of them like whipping.

• 39:30Hannah Berner?

  They just took you with them, next you know you're running.

• 39:36Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm like, I have a facial.

• 39:39Paige DeSorbo?

  So I'm like, I'm immediately angered, because I'm like, fuck you guys, who the fuck is getting up?

• 39:46Hannah Berner?

  There should be signs, like you know it says no biking on the sidewalk, no running on the sidewalk.

• 39:50Paige DeSorbo?

  I was like, is this what's happening before ten AM on a Saturday morning? You've gone rogue, you've taken over the city, it's Gotham City here now. They, they stop at the corner. No, I literally like look up, because I'm like, who are these fucking people that I never want to see again? I realize, high school team, high school track team.

• 40:13Hannah Berner?

  Oh, they're just trying to run.

• 40:14Paige DeSorbo?

  And so I was like, you know what, it take back everything bad.

• 40:16Hannah Berner?

  They're chasing their dreams.

• 40:18Paige DeSorbo?

  You guys get your exercise.

• 40:20Hannah Berner?

  But also, high school kids, let them sleep.

• 40:23Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I was like, guys.

• 40:25Hannah Berner?

  What happened to after school activity, it's after school activities.

• 40:29Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I couldn't even believe New York City allowed something like that to happen.

• 40:32Hannah Berner?

  Also, New York City schools having a run club. Like my New York City school, our gym, the ceiling was so low, you couldn't shoot the basketball.

• 40:40Paige DeSorbo?

  I mean, I think it was the track team, but yeah.

• 40:43Hannah Berner?

  Get a track.

• 40:44Paige DeSorbo?

  I was like, I liked calling them the run club.

• 40:45Hannah Berner?

  The run club, that's so funny.

• 40:47Paige DeSorbo?

  Because I thought they were adults.

• 40:48Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 40:49Paige DeSorbo?

  And then I realized they were kids and I was like, sorry.

• 40:51Hannah Berner?

  I feel like low key, running in New York City though, is. Like a dating app, if you do it, like, people say the West Side Highway is just like hot people running and like eye fucking. It's like the airport for fit people.

• 41:05Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm not a doctor, but I think running is so bad for you.

• 41:08Hannah Berner?

  No, it's so bad for your knees.

• 41:10Paige DeSorbo?

  I think it raises your like Yeah, your adrenaline, your like.

• 41:16Hannah Berner?

  I almost bought one of the shaking pads.

• 41:18Paige DeSorbo?

  Do it.

• 41:20Hannah Berner?

  How often do you use it?

• 41:21Paige DeSorbo?

  Every day.

• 41:22Hannah Berner?

  Cause it says it releases trauma.

• 41:24Paige DeSorbo?

  And yeah, I haven't like cried on it. But no, I really think it does help.

• 41:32Hannah Berner?

  Wait, can I call you out for a second?

• 41:33Paige DeSorbo?

  Fine.

• 41:35Hannah Berner?

  Paige calls me and she's like really focused talking about something, but it sounds like she's in a, in a car wash. Like, it sounds like she's in a rainforest. So I

• 41:49Paige DeSorbo?

  This is my last minute on the phone. You've got to listen to me.

• 41:52Hannah Berner?

  So she was rambling and I go, hold on, are you in a rainforest? And then instead of being like explaining herself, she goes, what? And then I'm like, oh, maybe she's on speaker. You know, sometimes on speaker, it's weird. And she, she, you make me feel like I'm crazy. You go, what? Uh, what? And I go, oh, it sounds insane. And she goes, yeah, I'm in the shower. Anyway. And I'm like, okay, you could have prefaced it with being like, hey, sorry, I'm underwater right now. But you made me feel like I was crazy for being like, you're drowning.

• 42:22Paige DeSorbo?

  I get some of the best work done in there.

• 42:24Hannah Berner?

  You get in the shower, you get thoughts. Where is your phone?

• 42:27Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, I have my Octobuddy. So she's stuck right on the right on the side.

• 42:31Hannah Berner?

  By the way, she has FaceTimed me in the shower as well. I know her full routine.

• 42:35Paige DeSorbo?

  About ten years ago, one of my friends called me, my friend Ryan, and I don't know, he's telling me something. And the exact same thing happened. I go, where are you? He goes, oh, I'm in the shower.

• 42:45Hannah Berner?

  She goes, and then, and then the other, and then you're like, what?

• 42:49Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm like, you're calling me in the shower? And he goes, yeah, this is twenty minute valuable minutes that I and ever since then, any call I've had to make through that day, that's not like super important, but like I have to tell you something, I have to talk to you. I don't have any other time during the day. You're getting a call in my shower.

• 43:08Hannah Berner?

  I do think that we put too much pressure on people to get work done between the hours of nine to five while sitting on a desk.

• 43:14Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 43:14Hannah Berner?

  Cause creatively, I'm sorry. Creatively for me, stuff comes to me at ten thirty when I'm spacing out, when I'm in my bed.

• 43:26Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm so hot right now.

• 43:28Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, I'm wearing a tank top. How are you? Take it off. Then we'll be matching. Oh, and you have the hiccups.

• 43:37Hannah Berner?

  Have you heard of um, horse girl fall?

• 43:43Paige DeSorbo?

  Is it horse girl got, hello?

• 43:48Hannah Berner?

  Apparently, and this is my thing, I love.

• 43:52Paige DeSorbo?

  Horses.

• 43:53Hannah Berner?

  I love a funny trend. You know, I'm on every trend. Horse girl was one thing that I never was able to do, I think, cause I grew up in Brooklyn.

• 44:00Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 44:01Hannah Berner?

  There weren't a lot of horse girls. But I, the question trend is cool and I love animals.

• 44:07Paige DeSorbo?

  It's funny that horse girls get like a bad rep because anyone I knew growing up riding horses, they were.

• 44:15Paige DeSorbo?

  Horse girl, cool. Your dad will buy and sell everyone in the town like.

• 44:19Hannah Berner?

  And like, yeah, I know. Yeah, horse girl is so weird that it got negative. It's like cat girl, crazy cat ladies.

• 44:24Paige DeSorbo?

  Totally.

• 44:25Hannah Berner?

  But again, you know what it is? It's never horse boy. No one's ever made fun of a horse boy.

• 44:29Paige DeSorbo?

  They're never like, it's a basketball boy. It's like, no, he just plays basketball.

• 44:34Hannah Berner?

  No one's like, oh, crazy little horsey men running around. No, they put it on the women. Sorry, she's connected to her horse.

• 44:41Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, sorry. She has passions.

• 44:44Paige DeSorbo?

  Thought the other day, and I want to ask you.

• 44:48Hannah Berner?

  I had one thought.

• 44:50Paige DeSorbo?

  You know when there's like commercials where it's for like insurance, like home insurance or like car insurance or something, but it's like a story that has nothing to do with like home insurance. But it's like a montage and it's like, it's like two people meet and they buy a house together and then like the next clip is like, oh my God, they're having a baby. And then the child's growing up.

• 45:10Hannah Berner?

  And then like an asteroid hits.

• 45:12Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, and they're like, make sure you call Geico, like something like that. When you watch those commercials, do you think of yourself as the mom in it? Or do you think of yourself as the child? Because I was watching this commercial and it was like the parents getting the daughter ready, obviously for like her high school graduation. And I was like, oh my God, like, I wonder what my future child's like, high school graduation is gonna be like or something. And then I stopped and I was like, I think I just turned into an adult. Because I feel like I used to watch those commercials and think of myself as the child and think of my parents as like, I hope they have home insurance. And now I'm like, oh my God, I'm the parent.

• 45:57Hannah Berner?

  This is so funny. For anyone doesn't know, I've been auditioning, um, haven't gotten a call back yet, but.

• 46:02Paige DeSorbo?

  But she's trying.

• 46:03Hannah Berner?

  I'm pushing hard, um. There was like an audition for a mom and I go, this must be wrong because I'm not mom, mom age also. And they're like, babe, you're thirty four. You're actually Jerry.

• 46:17Paige DeSorbo?

  Actually, we suggest you don't have kids and you're actually too.

• 46:21Hannah Berner?

  There was like a tennis movie and they were like, the girls are like college tennis players and they go perfect. And they're like, but we.

• 46:28Paige DeSorbo?

  And you'll be their mom. And you're like, so how can I be a college person's mom if I'm also on the team in college?

• 46:36Hannah Berner?

  You can't be a mom while playing on the team and they're like, you've got so wrong. Auditioning for a mom is crazy behavior.

• 46:43Paige DeSorbo?

  Crazy.

• 46:44Hannah Berner?

  But I also will watch those commercials and at first I, I'm like the girl. And then they start saying all this stuff about like, and then you have to file. And I'm like, the second filing's involved. I'm like, this is not relatable to me.

• 46:56Paige DeSorbo?

  I, I can't believe you just said that because all weekend I go, the moment someone mentions the word margins, I'm out. Like at Harvard and this clay video thing, I literally looked at my manager and I was like, what if they ask me like a really hard question that I don't know? And she was like, you're gonna be fine. Like you know what they're gonna be asking.

• 47:16Hannah Berner?

  Be a politician, turn it on them.

• 47:17Paige DeSorbo?

  And I was like, if someone starts bringing up margins and financials, I'm literally throwing up on stage and leaving. So anyway, that word really gets me going.

• 47:27Hannah Berner?

  Um, I also have to give an update. Dez and I sometimes have trouble picking the same kind of show.

• 47:35Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 47:36Hannah Berner?

  Cause we have different sleeping schedules. So I'm watching Nashville, but then he showed up one night and I was like.

• 47:42Paige DeSorbo?

  He showed up out of nowhere. It was so weird. I was like, oh, do you live here?

• 47:48Hannah Berner?

  Who invited you?

• 47:50Paige DeSorbo?

  He came out from the bedroom and I was like, oh my god.

• 47:52Hannah Berner?

  Oh my god. But he's like, let's watch something. And this is the problem. He doesn't, he doesn't like murder documentaries. You're like, he's a little stubborn where he likes to say that. If I can get it started before he can have an opinion, he'll be sucked in.

• 48:05Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 48:06Hannah Berner?

  Like, he's always like, I wanna watch a documentary.

• 48:07Paige DeSorbo?

  Life is about.

• 48:09Hannah Berner?

  Making them.

• 48:09Paige DeSorbo?

  Tricking men. It's actually so funny that they run anything and think that we're like second to them. It's like, we manipulated the fuck out of you guys. But anyway, keep going.

• 48:19Hannah Berner?

  So we're there. And I'm like, what are we gonna watch? I know he's gonna fall asleep soon. So I'm like, yeah, whatever you wanna watch. And he, he goes, what's this Demon Hunters thing? And I was like, I don't watch this Demon Hunters.

• 48:31Paige DeSorbo?

  Never even heard of it.

• 48:32Hannah Berner?

  Everyone's talking about it.

• 48:34Paige DeSorbo?

  What's it on?

• 48:35Hannah Berner?

  It's Netflix. It's like the most watched thing. It's about a.

• 48:39Paige DeSorbo?

  Is this the K-pop show?

• 48:41Hannah Berner?

  It's about a K- do you know the story?

• 48:44Paige DeSorbo?

  I heard someone talking about it because their daughter is like obsessed with K-pop.

• 48:48Hannah Berner?

  He, he basically, Dez also was like, sometimes we like to watch stuff to be like, is there a joke here? Cause it's like really popular. That's how he prefaced it to me.

• 48:55Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait.

• 48:56Hannah Berner?

  So I said, okay, we're doing research together.

• 48:59Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm obsessed with that.

• 48:59Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, he was like, let's watch it and maybe there's something funny that we can get on stage. And I said.

• 49:03Paige DeSorbo?

  We can make fun of these losers in this show.

• 49:06Hannah Berner?

  But I'm like, or do you actually just wanna watch Demon K-pop Hunters? Just say it. But it's, so it's about this K-pop. I would love to see the pitch room of this. They're like, okay, so people love K-pop.

• 49:15Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 49:16Hannah Berner?

  But then.

• 49:16Paige DeSorbo?

  It's real people acting?

• 49:18Hannah Berner?

  It's cartoon.

• 49:21Hannah Berner?

  But it's like realistic cartoon.

• 49:22Paige DeSorbo?

  Your husband, hold up.

• 49:25Paige DeSorbo?

  Your husband on a Saturday night rolls up to the couch and goes, hey, check out this animated show.

• 49:30Hannah Berner?

  We have fun here. We have fun here. So it's, it's a K-pop group cartoon. That their job to save the world is they have to kill the demons by singing.

• 49:43Paige DeSorbo?

  Uh, this sounds.

• 49:46Hannah Berner?

  So their voices.

• 49:47Paige DeSorbo?

  You know what's gonna happen?

• 49:47Hannah Berner?

  Help keep the demons out.

• 49:49Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm gonna have a gay son who loves musical theater and, and that's my cross to bear. And you wanna know what? I will support him and I will make sure, I will be the biggest nepo mom. He won't even have to audition. I'll get him in that room.

• 50:03Hannah Berner?

  Wait, so this is the thing. His songs are catchy as fuck.

• 50:06Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 50:07Hannah Berner?

  So we start watching it to be like, let's make fun of this.

• 50:09Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 50:09Hannah Berner?

  Next thing you know, our heads start popping. Next thing you know, Des is doing fall. So there's this song called Golden.

• 50:17Paige DeSorbo?

  Is that how they murder them? Like by their routines?

• 50:20Hannah Berner?

  They, they have to fight them sometimes, but, but it's actually funny cause it's about like them staying famous too. So like something will happen. They got like canceled and they had to like get different press and then the, not to give it away, but the demons decide they should create a boy group so that the fans that go with the demons. And honestly, I was locked in. Like we, we, we didn't say a word. Watched it for like an hour twenty and then he's like, I think you have to go to bed, but this is really fun.

• 50:49Paige DeSorbo?

  Uh, same time.

• 50:50Hannah Berner?

  So let's just say our marriage is back alive. We're having fun.

• 50:57Paige DeSorbo?

  And sometimes it's as simple as that.

• 50:58Hannah Berner?

  One of the songs is on the radio. I didn't realize it was from the show, so I start singing to it like, and he's like, you know the words. And I'm like, I'm just up on my pop culture. I know.

• 51:05Paige DeSorbo?

  What song?

• 51:07Hannah Berner?

  You're the, you're really golden and you're the best. I'll send it to you. It's really good. I'll put it in the newsletter.

• 51:15Hannah Berner?

  The Columbia Amaze Puff Jacket is so iconic because I feel so encapsulated and warm, but it's so light.

• 51:22Paige DeSorbo?

  Great use of encapsulated. I went whimsical. My jacket is the Tea Light Pearl Shine and it really does give Tea Light Pearl Shine.

• 51:31Hannah Berner?

  It gives it.

• 51:32Paige DeSorbo?

  It's honey.

• 51:33Hannah Berner?

  Honey. And mine's black.

• 51:36Paige DeSorbo?

  Because sometimes in the winter, you just see all the same colors and I'm like, okay, but let me throw like a galosh on with my puffer coat and let me have it be fun colors.

• 51:46Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, because you like a coat to be part of the outfit.

• 51:49Paige DeSorbo?

  It's the outfit.

• 51:50Hannah Berner?

  Not ruining the outfit. But also I hate when you put on coats and then you're like stiff. You guys, I literally could swim in this.

• 51:56Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, it feels like it's light, but it's also extremely warm.

• 52:00Hannah Berner?

  It's not overpriced.

• 52:02Paige DeSorbo?

  No.

• 52:03Hannah Berner?

  And we love giving the gigglers a good deal. And it has space for layering. Like you don't feel like it's tight, so I can layer a lot.

• 52:10Paige DeSorbo?

  Which is very important because there's nothing worse than like layering and you're stiff and then you're sweating and it's like a cold sweat and it's like, no.

• 52:15Hannah Berner?

  No.

• 52:16Paige DeSorbo?

  And I love that it has these things for your hands because I really use them with my thumbs. I love when jackets have this.

• 52:23Hannah Berner?

  So cute. And they have all different length options for what you prefer depending on how long your torso is. Visit columbia.com to get your hands on an Amaze Puff Jacket.

• 52:34Paige DeSorbo?

  It's tough on cold, soft on you.

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• 54:12Paige DeSorbo?

  One other question. I saw people are skin cupping.

• 54:17Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 54:17Paige DeSorbo?

  Am I gonna give myself a hickey?

• 54:19Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 54:22Hannah Berner?

  Oh, on their face? Or like they're doing like on their back?

• 54:25Paige DeSorbo?

  On their face.

• 54:27Hannah Berner?

  No, it'll be fine. It's not, they're not as like intense as like the ones people do for like muscle recovery.

• 54:32Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, cuz I just feel like any mistake you can make on your face, I will.

• 54:37Hannah Berner?

  The suction cup thing, I feel like that's like been around. Like people doing it on their face.

• 54:42Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. You think it's kind of BS?

• 54:44Hannah Berner?

  You know what I love is my MetaCube like device thing? That like vibrate, like I think that. Honestly, an ice roller is the best.

• 54:52Paige DeSorbo?

  Is the best. I dermaplane'd.

• 54:55Hannah Berner?

  Did you?

• 54:56Paige DeSorbo?

  Um, and I've never felt so shiny.

• 54:59Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 55:00Paige DeSorbo?

  Like I felt like a baby dolphin.

• 55:03Hannah Berner?

  Do you like it?

• 55:04Paige DeSorbo?

  I don't know. My makeup artist for the Ryder Cup was like, loved it cuz it goes on easier.

• 55:10Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 55:10Paige DeSorbo?

  But also I was like, I kind of like a little fur to keep me warm.

• 55:15Hannah Berner?

  You don't really have, like, I've never looked at you and been like, you have hair on your face.

• 55:19Paige DeSorbo?

  You've also never looked at me.

• 55:20Hannah Berner?

  That's true.

• 55:22Hannah Berner?

  I only look through you.

• 55:24Paige DeSorbo?

  I've never really taken it all in. Normally you see one thing and you go, "Oh."

• 55:30Paige DeSorbo?

  And then you're like, "Back to me."

• 55:31Hannah Berner?

  My mom always makes a joke where she's like, "Don't let Paige look at you too long. She'll tell you what you have to fix." And I'm like, "Don't let me in the room."

• 55:49Hannah Berner?

  But I love constructive criticism. You know that. I'm very coachable.

• 55:52Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, sorry. If I don't tell you, who's gonna tell you? If I see my mom and I'm like, hey, let's like switch up this hairstyle or like, let's like change these boots or something. Someone to tell me.

• 56:01Hannah Berner?

  I feel like moms hairstyles are so important to them. And telling them to switch up a hairstyle is like, that's like you have to sit them down. Like, that's like having an intervention, especially some of these moms who've had the same one since nineteen eighty-two. My mom has dabbled with like, she's done short.

• 56:22Paige DeSorbo?

  My favorite was like one summer she had a pixie cut. And I was just like.

• 56:27Hannah Berner?

  When you have a pixie, like the day you have a pixie cut, I'm gonna be like, it's gonna be the greatest day of my life.

• 56:32Paige DeSorbo?

  I can't wait.

• 56:33Hannah Berner?

  I could see a little side part with it.

• 56:35Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm gonna have one at some point.

• 56:37Hannah Berner?

  You're gonna?

• 56:38Paige DeSorbo?

  Sometime in, like, I feel like it's very like, ah, I'm turning forty-four, so like, I'm gonna pixie cut.

• 56:43Hannah Berner?

  I feel like if you have a pixie cut, it's gonna be iconic and everyone's gonna do it, where if I got it, it's a cry for help. Yours would not be a cry for help. Mine would be like, oh, she's, she's in our third marriage and she's.

• 56:55Paige DeSorbo?

  I might have to do like a pixie cut wig first to like, see how I like get and test it out.

• 57:00Hannah Berner?

  You, you haven't been, have you ever done?

• 57:04Paige DeSorbo?

  I haven't dabbled in wigs the way I should.

• 57:06Hannah Berner?

  I feel like you should.

• 57:07Paige DeSorbo?

  It's funny because Mitchell said, I'm going to Paris Fashion Week and he was like, do you have any interest in doing a blonde wig for a look? And I was like.

• 57:15Hannah Berner?

  Are you gonna bleach your eyebrows with it?

• 57:16Paige DeSorbo?

  I would probably have to, but I, it's like.

• 57:20Hannah Berner?

  You guys, this is too much admin.

• 57:21Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, it's way too much admin.

• 57:23Hannah Berner?

  Can you promise me something? When you go to Paris, can you please like go consignment shopping? Like go thrifting?

• 57:31Paige DeSorbo?

  So there will be a day where we do like a full shopping day. I'm, I'm going to the Victoria Beckham show. And I'm, like, when I got the invitation, I was just like, that's my girl, that's my best friend. Like, she was like, oh, let's invite my friend.

• 57:46Hannah Berner?

  Let's not use a B word, but continue.

• 57:47Paige DeSorbo?

  Sorry, that's my friend.

• 57:48Hannah Berner?

  That's your friend, you know, you really well.

• 57:51Paige DeSorbo?

  And then she invited me to her, I shouldn't say to her house.

• 57:59Paige DeSorbo?

  Then her team invited me.

• 58:01Hannah Berner?

  You guys are watching manifestation happen.

• 58:03Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, her team invited me before the show to get fitted for my outfit to wear like to the show and I literally like rearrange my flight to like be able to go to it. So I'm I go I leave on Wednesday and then the show is on Friday.

• 58:17Hannah Berner?

  What I love doing with the gigglers because we started in reality TV and we weren't allowed to talk about any anything, how it was made, what was really happening, anything. So now that we're doing other stuff, I love being able to pull the curtain and like actually tell the gigglers what it's like. I didn't know what a fitting was. Like when people say they'd be like, I'm going to a fitting and I'm like, what is like, you're just if you be like, this doesn't fit like, but it's, can you explain what a fitting is to people?

• 58:46Paige DeSorbo?

  A fitting is a stylist comes over and brings a bunch of looks and then you try all of them on and you pick an outfit for certain events. So like I'm doing a fitting tonight for all my Paris looks. And also like the stylist I work with, it's sometimes I'm like, this is the best job ever. It's literally just my friend that I send different clothes to that I'm like, do you like this? Like it's just like a sounding board and I'm like, do you know this person? Could we?

• 59:11Hannah Berner?

  But her full time job is telling you if she likes your outfit.

• 59:14Paige DeSorbo?

  Yes.

• 59:15Hannah Berner?

  And pitching you outfits.

• 59:16Paige DeSorbo?

  Me and she'll be like, yeah, it's okay.

• 59:18Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 59:18Paige DeSorbo?

  You know?

• 59:19Hannah Berner?

  And then you add Kim into the mix and then we're a company.

• 59:21Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay. Well, here's the thing. When I do a fitting for anything and I'm trying on outfits, like everyone at that fitting knows that the final decision will not be made until everyone goes home and then I'll text a final decision of outfits. Because once everyone leaves, I then have to call in the big guns and I have to make sure she can speak freely.

• 59:42Hannah Berner?

  And by big guns, I've never been a part of this final decision. I'm feeling I've never even heard a rumor about this happening.

• 59:49Paige DeSorbo?

  I'll say, Mom, I'm in a fitting right now. I'll call you after. And then I call her and I show her all of the looks and I've made the mistake before of having other people in that room for that phone call. People were offended.

• 1:00:02Hannah Berner?

  If you guys have ever seen Say Yes to the Dress, that's what it is every day for Paige.

• 1:00:07Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. And there will be sometimes something I really like and I'll be like, I really like this one. And she'll go, really? And that's what I'm like, and I'm taking it off immediately.

• 1:00:16Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, I, I also think with styling, when you're trying on clothes, like they want you to like what they pick sometimes.

• 1:00:24Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:24Hannah Berner?

  Or they might have a relationship with a brand that they want you to start working with. There's all these things going on that you're not aware of. So sometimes you will feel uncomfortable in it, but they'll be like, I'm obsessed and you really have to get your own voice.

• 1:00:36Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:37Hannah Berner?

  And then sometimes you'll do something that you're not like fully comfortable with. And then you post it online and everyone's like, we hate this. And you're like, oh.

• 1:00:44Paige DeSorbo?

  The stylist world is crazy. No, like when Rachel Zoe had her show and it was like Brad Goreski and like.

• 1:00:50Hannah Berner?

  I need to rewatch.

• 1:00:51Paige DeSorbo?

  That was like my first introduction to like, what is a stylist? And what I was like eight, not 10, whatever. There is a reality show in the stylist world because I feel like my stylist is not like other ones. Like I feel like she is my friend and like we shop together, like we look at things together and we're like, what? And she knows my closet. Like she'll be like, oh, you have those shoes that would go good with this. And I'm like, yes, perfect.

• 1:01:15Hannah Berner?

  But I always say, when you see a celeb just chilling, um, at a basketball game.

• 1:01:20Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, she was.

• 1:01:20Hannah Berner?

  Like there's so much that goes into her with those boots that like everyone's talking about.

• 1:01:25Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:25Hannah Berner?

  And whether they're hating or loving. I do want to say, by the way, fittings for Paige and fittings for me are very different.

• 1:01:31Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:32Hannah Berner?

  Fittings for Paige, she, this is what she's been born to do. Like you've been, you've been doing it since you're what, like six years old?

• 1:01:39Paige DeSorbo?

  Any stylist that works with me knows I don't stay in a fitting longer than 45 minutes. One, because I'm very decisive and two, I can change clothes so fast.

• 1:01:49Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:50Paige DeSorbo?

  That like, I'm not keeping anyone. And I always ask like, what celebrities like make you do really long fittings? And one of my stylists was like, one time I did a fitting with this one celebrity and she, she made me stay there for eight hours. And I was like, at that point move in.

• 1:02:03Hannah Berner?

  But you know what's funny? We're exactly the same. I've, I've like broken records for fitting numbers.

• 1:02:08Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 1:02:08Hannah Berner?

  Like amount of time. Cause I am very decisive too.

• 1:02:11Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 1:02:11Hannah Berner?

  But like I. I don't like fittings.

• 1:02:15Paige DeSorbo?

  No, me neither.

• 1:02:15Hannah Berner?

  Like, you don't.

• 1:02:16Paige DeSorbo?

  No.

• 1:02:17Hannah Berner?

  Okay, it's stressful.

• 1:02:19Paige DeSorbo?

  It's really stressful.

• 1:02:19Hannah Berner?

  Cause you're basically put on an outfit and have everyone decide if you look like shit or not in it.

• 1:02:23Paige DeSorbo?

  Exactly.

• 1:02:24Hannah Berner?

  And then sometimes you do look like shit, but you want to be able to pull it off and you can't.

• 1:02:28Paige DeSorbo?

  It's like being a real Barbie.

• 1:02:30Hannah Berner?

  And you also have to be so fucking honest with yourself. Like you have to be like, you look bad.

• 1:02:35Paige DeSorbo?

  It's just looking at yourself in the mirror and being like, not today.

• 1:02:38Hannah Berner?

  It's, it's actually emotional warfare. Like you, you see a dress that's like expensive and a great brand and they're like, you should wear it. And you put it on and you're like, I look stupid.

• 1:02:47Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 1:02:48Hannah Berner?

  And then you have to just accept that and move on.

• 1:02:50Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. And it's tough. Or the internet will tell you.

• 1:02:54Paige DeSorbo?

  That is humbling. You're like, really? That's the best you could come up with? You stupid bitch. I'm like, oh my god.

• 1:03:00Hannah Berner?

  No, it's stressful.

• 1:03:01Paige DeSorbo?

  It's so stressful. No, there will be times I'm in a fitting and I'm like, everyone's gonna hate this outfit.

• 1:03:07Hannah Berner?

  I am in a little bit of a mood because I lost to Jared Freed yesterday in fantasy football. Jared Freed's having like an amazing season. He didn't have a good one last season.

• 1:03:16Paige DeSorbo?

  I literally heard through like seven different layers of communication that like, I know for a fact that someone on your fantasy team got hurt.

• 1:03:29Paige DeSorbo?

  Girl. Like, and I heard it from like-

• 1:03:31Hannah Berner?

  I wasn't gonna bring it up. These men are dropping like flies.

• 1:03:34Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 1:03:35Hannah Berner?

  Getting out on stretchers. My main guy, Malik Neighbors, I'm, and I'm, I'm doing live TV by the way. Checking my football. And the Malik Neighbors has just, his whole knee fell off. And I go, awesome.

• 1:03:50Paige DeSorbo?

  No, literally, whole knee shattered. I didn't, wasn't even watching. I heard it through like TikTok, Instagram. I was like, oh, I think Hannah knows that guy.

• 1:03:57Hannah Berner?

  Fantasy football is gladiator. They throw them on the field and you're like, please don't have a lion eat my guy.

• 1:04:05Hannah Berner?

  Oh, he ate him. God damn it. So anyway, I lost to Jared Freed because Malik Neighbors twisted his knee.

• 1:04:10Paige DeSorbo?

  It's literally Sims. You're like, I hope my Sim doesn't go in there. No. My Sim is literally gonna get hurt.

• 1:04:17Hannah Berner?

  It's also scary because this happened to everyone's team. Like, these guys are getting hurt every game.

• 1:04:21Paige DeSorbo?

  So in fantasy, when someone-

• 1:04:23Hannah Berner?

  Talking about their brain. Their brain's been mashed potatoes.

• 1:04:25Paige DeSorbo?

  So say someone gets hurt and it's like they're out for the season. How does that affect your team?

• 1:04:29Hannah Berner?

  So now, like, he was a high draft pick for me. I could have picked someone else. I picked him. So now he fucked me.

• 1:04:35Paige DeSorbo?

  So you get to pick another person or no?

• 1:04:37Hannah Berner?

  He literally is being selfish. How dare you hurt yourself? Um, so now I have to like, pick another guy and put him in his place. The drama.

• 1:04:48Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, so the men have fantasy football. They have the Ryder Cup.

• 1:04:55Hannah Berner?

  Playoffs are about to start.

• 1:04:56Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh my god, how are they even gonna go to work? How are they gonna do it?

• 1:05:01Hannah Berner?

  And then they watch the game and then they listen to podcasts about other men giving their opinion about the game.

• 1:05:07Paige DeSorbo?

  A couple of weeks ago, when I realized that ESPN was on all day long, I shook my.

• 1:05:12Hannah Berner?

  Well, that's my joke. I say, stop saying women talk all the time. Have you ever watched ESPN?

• 1:05:18Paige DeSorbo?

  I thought they were fucking with.

• 1:05:20Hannah Berner?

  They don't even have a format. They just go and their favorite thing to do is they just say like a thing that can't be proven. They'll be like, LeBron is the best of all time. It's an opinion. And then they argue it and for hours.

• 1:05:33Paige DeSorbo?

  And why is no one talking about the, um, the certain suit choices that are being made on those?

• 1:05:39Hannah Berner?

  Someone didn't do a fitting.

• 1:05:40Paige DeSorbo?

  No, no one does a fitting.

• 1:05:41Hannah Berner?

  No one does a fitting.

• 1:05:43Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm like, oh, what's going on here?

• 1:05:45Hannah Berner?

  I do have to say, so Ralph Lauren, who is so iconic, was dressing us for the Ryder Cup. And I was like, okay, obviously I'm gonna look like the cutest. Marcelo and Colin go off.

• 1:06:00Hannah Berner?

  And, um, Marcelo's dressing as Chi Chi Rodriguez and I was like, this feels sexist. Let me have a moment.

• 1:06:07Paige DeSorbo?

  Let me have a second.

• 1:06:07Hannah Berner?

  And Colin's dressed like full sports broadcaster.

• 1:06:12Hannah Berner?

  Also come in, they're getting glam.

• 1:06:14Paige DeSorbo?

  You know how I feel about men getting glam? It makes me uneasy and uncomfy.

• 1:06:19Hannah Berner?

  Men getting glam creates monsters.

• 1:06:21Paige DeSorbo?

  No.

• 1:06:23Hannah Berner?

  For a man to be like, hey, can you get?

• 1:06:25Paige DeSorbo?

  No.

• 1:06:27Paige DeSorbo?

  No, men getting glam and thinking it's like, oh, I am like getting glam, so I must be doing something cool. What you're doing that's cool is finding a boyfriend. And I love that for you, and I hope you find him. Because getting glam as a man, I just like, you don't need it.

• 1:06:44Hannah Berner?

  Do you want to hear the funniest thing? So my glam was getting done at home at 3 a.m. and then I drive along to the Rite of Cup. And the glam wasn't coming with me because they can't come into the stands with me. Like, I would never put a woman in that place. Like, I was like, no. So Dez came with me on Sunday and he's like hanging out with the crew. And she gave me one, what's it called?

• 1:07:05Paige DeSorbo?

  Like a puff?

• 1:07:06Hannah Berner?

  A puff, because I get oily. So I go to Dez and I was like, come with us, here's my puff. When I get shiny, your job is to puff me. So I, so Dez is following me with a puff. So before I go on, I go, Dez. So then he starts leaning.

• 1:07:20Paige DeSorbo?

  You're like puff, I'm literally.

• 1:07:22Hannah Berner?

  So then he comes up and I realize it looks like I have a, like, flaming gay makeup artist. So Dez starts going, oh, my God, you look so good. And he leans into it because I've never had a straight guy do my makeup ever. This isn't a stereotype, this is a fact.

• 1:07:37Paige DeSorbo?

  I don't think they can.

• 1:07:38Hannah Berner?

  I have seen straight hairdressers. I have had a straight hairdresser before. They do it like male chefs, like you know how male chefs, they don't, they'll be like, like, oh, yeah, man. Like, they'll be like.

• 1:07:48Paige DeSorbo?

  They only come out when like the solstice is right. Like, I rarely come across one.

• 1:07:53Hannah Berner?

  They're like, I'm straightening, like, oh, straight. Like, they're very like that. So Dez, literally, as he's doing it, I'm like, people, because like, let's be honest, Dez is also like beautiful.

• 1:08:01Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 1:08:01Hannah Berner?

  Like, he looks like Anderson Cooper.

• 1:08:03Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, yes.

• 1:08:04Hannah Berner?

  In a way, and I was like, he's my full, he's my gay makeup artist for the day. And honestly, role play is fun sometimes.

• 1:08:11Paige DeSorbo?

  It's so funny sometimes.

• 1:08:12Hannah Berner?

  He's like leaning into it, but he was so funny.

• 1:08:15Paige DeSorbo?

  Full relationships where I'm like, let's pretend this is different.

• 1:08:22Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm like.

• 1:08:22Hannah Berner?

  You go, what's the farthest from reality?

• 1:08:24Paige DeSorbo?

  Anything to take me out of my current reality, let's do that.

• 1:08:31Hannah Berner?

  You go, how do we flip this on its head?

• 1:08:34Hannah Berner?

  But he, it's funny too, because I feel like men don't notice little details, like me explaining to him, like some parts of my face will get shiny, like my chin and right in between my brows.

• 1:08:43Paige DeSorbo?

  You tease them.

• 1:08:43Hannah Berner?

  He was looking at me in ways he'd never looked at me before. Like, he was like, notice, like, he was like, oh.

• 1:08:47Paige DeSorbo?

  He was like, wait, you have a nose.

• 1:08:51Hannah Berner?

  I was like, he was like, wait, you're a human. My husband saw me for the first time. He saw me for the first time. Um, so.

• 1:09:00Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, is it just so relaxing, like being married to someone where like, you know, he's like nearby rooting for you, like while you're doing your work? Isn't that, that's so nice.

• 1:09:13Hannah Berner?

  Well, at one point, like he was filming me with, and he was like, I mean, obviously the video was bad because he's straight.

• 1:09:19Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, and it's like, it was going to like your mom and dad.

• 1:09:21Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, and I was like, can you send it to me? And he's like, it actually was, it was, I missed, it was blurry and my.

• 1:09:25Paige DeSorbo?

  Honestly, that's how I feel with Josephine. Sometimes she'll send pictures of me to my mom, like unsolicited, and I'm like, you care about me.

• 1:09:32Hannah Berner?

  No, it's so cute. Um, speaking of men, I also was thinking, like, if I were to start a business one day, I was like, okay, obviously it would be cat food, but if I didn't do cat food, like, I want to do something that like, there's like a meaning behind it, like it helps people or something. But then I realized, what if the business is taking advantage of men? So like, what if I started like, an anti-aging business? Because I feel like we're not fear mongering the men enough. Like, we are all so scared. What if we literally, like, like Chris, he's gonna turn thirty eventually, and I'm like, men, if you start getting wrinkles.

• 1:10:08Paige DeSorbo?

  Leo DiCaprio, Chris. We're like, you're too old now.

• 1:10:13Paige DeSorbo?

  We like you better when you're twenty seven.

• 1:10:15Hannah Berner?

  We like little cute male podcast hosts.

• 1:10:19Hannah Berner?

  Is that a gray on the side of your ear? So like, there's, or like male, like, men should have like a bronzer. Like, what if we made them be like, you're pale? Because, like, you can't be walking around with. Without like a little bit of color. We have to like, you have to make them scared, be like, are you pale?

• 1:10:37Paige DeSorbo?

  Jude laws out here like running amok for the man.

• 1:10:40Hannah Berner?

  But that's, it's just the marketing's wrong. The men are not being marketed to.

• 1:10:43Paige DeSorbo?

  They need to be scared more.

• 1:10:44Hannah Berner?

  They need to be scared more. So what if we were like, this $200 serum will make you look like, you'll hit Judge Clooney and then you stay there. You know, or like, and I'll make Dez the face of it and I'll be like, this man's 102.

• 1:11:02Hannah Berner?

  Cause he makes this $300 serum and the girls just push it on their boyfriends, make them pay.

• 1:11:08Paige DeSorbo?

  I think this is illegal.

• 1:11:10Hannah Berner?

  I think this is just women's skincare.

• 1:11:12Paige DeSorbo?

  No.

• 1:11:14Hannah Berner?

  I'm just copying, I'm just copying how it's made. I'm just copying how it's made. Um, thank you guys so much for giggling with us. Thank you Duncan for supporting the episode. We love our refreshers. By the way, the gigglers have been tagging me in their Duncan refreshers and a couple of girls are drinking like exactly what I told them to drink. I could get any of the order, which is mango pineapple refresher, less concentrate and green tea. So tag me if you keep ordering it.

• 1:11:38Paige DeSorbo?

  And I just get my blueberry breeze lemonade.

• 1:11:41Hannah Berner?

  You love your BB.

• 1:11:42Paige DeSorbo?

  I love it.

• 1:11:43Hannah Berner?

  You love your BBL.

• 1:11:47Hannah Berner?

  Thank you guys for giggling with us. We'll talk to you later. Bye.

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