Pod Insights Wolf & Owl with Romesh Ranganathan and Tom Davis Weddings, Food Vans and King Prawn Purée About this episode What does Tom regret about his wedding? Is Romesh holding a grudge again Tom? What do David Haye and Romesh have in common? Does anyone know what the difference is between a food stall and a food station? And should Tom open his own burger van business?
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00:00 Intro01:16 Wedding advice07:36 Food vans 09:48 King prawn puree
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Transcript 0:14 Speaker 00 Hello friends, this is the Wolf and Al email. Oh god.
0:18 Speaker 01 Jesus.
0:19 Speaker 00 I was just so excited.
0:20 Speaker 01 This is the Wolf and the Banter Cannon 1. Welcome to the email special of the Wolf and Banter Cannon.
0:27 Speaker 00 You know who you could get that, you're gonna give that shirt to?
0:31 Speaker 01 Who?
0:31 Speaker 00 David Haye, because he's sort of sees himself as...
0:34 Speaker 01 He's an absolute banter cannon as well.
0:35 Speaker 00 Yeah, he is the banter cannon.
0:36 Speaker 01 Yeah, just shooting everywhere. Okay, we, uh, wolfalpod at gmail dot com.
0:40 Speaker 00 I've never ever done this where it's gone, the banter's gone, because obviously you're the banter cannon, but the same joke has had a runner into two episodes.
0:47 Speaker 01 I know, it's first time.
0:48 Speaker 00 But the idea of that you and David Haye both wearing those shirts. By the way, you just did a thing with your pecs then.
0:54 Speaker 01 Did I?
0:55 Speaker 00 Yeah, that's incredible. Yeah, I, how? I don't know you could do that. That's what I think that stack people do.
1:03 Speaker 01 Yeah.
1:03 Speaker 00 So just for, yeah.
1:04 Speaker 01 Yeah, for the, for the audio listeners.
1:06 Speaker 00 Yeah, Romesh is flexing so hard. Since I mentioned David Haye. Yeah, he's doing like a thing in his Banter Cannon t-shirt.
1:14 Speaker 01 Uh, okay, Dear Wolf and Al, I'm a long time listener, started back in 2022 when I first found out about the pod and I was newly in a whirlwind relationship where I moved in and lived with him after the first meeting.
1:24 Speaker 00 Wow.
1:24 Speaker 01 Just 24 hours after we started talking online. This sounds like limerence to me.
1:28 Speaker 00 What?
1:29 Speaker 01 Limerence, have you heard about limerence?
1:30 Speaker 00 What's that?
1:31 Speaker 01 I'll talk to you about it in a minute. Happy to say that four years, it doesn't sound like limerence, it actually sounds like love. Four years, four dogs, six chickens, two rabbits and a lot of life forward, we're engaged.
1:39 Speaker 00 Oh, this is a happy one.
1:40 Speaker 01 Planning our wedding for September this year, don't worry, I'm not here to extend an invite. We're planning a registry office wedding and then celebrating with a garden party at home, including walking the aisle, AKA my garden path. With my fiance's brother-in-law officiating after being ordained by the Church of Dudism.
1:55 Speaker 00 Oh mate, I love this. This is my happiest thing.
1:59 Speaker 01 My question is this, what from your own weddings or other weddings you've attended, a real standout moment that you think I could include in a celebration like mine? Uh, just want to have a nice day filmed with fun and bringing two families together. I'm having a pork pine cheese.
2:12 Speaker 00 Oh my god, this is an incredible wedding.
2:14 Speaker 01 As well as a wedding cake, as I've not got a huge sweet tooth, and a lemon wedding cake for my husband.
2:19 Speaker 00 Wow.
2:20 Speaker 01 Any ideas would be greatly appreciated, but overall, I'm just happy to email in and hopefully hear your thoughts. I was diagnosed with ADHD as an adult, so I relate to Tom so much and appreciate his openness. Loss of Love from The Lucky Leopard. I've attached an inspo pic for the pork and cheesecake for Tom's enjoyment.
2:33 Speaker 00 Oh my god, I'm in love with this.
2:35 Speaker 01 Holy fucking shit.
2:36 Speaker 00 That's incredible. Wow, look at that.
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3:39 Speaker 01 How many calories do you reckon in that stack?
3:41 Speaker 00 That's a lot. That is, that's an incredible thing.
3:43 Speaker 01 Because cheese is just your pure calories, right?
3:45 Speaker 00 Yeah, pure fat, isn't it?
3:47 Speaker 01 Yeah, yeah. Um, well, thank you so much.
3:50 Speaker 00 That's a beautiful thing.
3:52 Speaker 01 Have you heard about limerence?
3:53 Speaker 00 What is limerence?
3:55 Speaker 01 I might have got this wrong, but limerence is like, do you know when you first meet somebody?
3:59 Speaker 00 Yeah.
4:00 Speaker 01 And you're just, it's a really heady period.
4:04 Speaker 00 Yeah, yeah.
4:04 Speaker 01 Right, and you be, I, I think limerence, true limerence is when you become chemically addicted to the other person.
4:12 Speaker 00 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
4:13 Speaker 01 And.
4:14 Speaker 00 I've had that.
4:14 Speaker 01 You be, you, you become addicted to an idea of what that person is, rather than the reality of them. So you, so you meet somebody and you've got this idealized version of who they should be. And then every time they don't meet up to that, it's incredibly upsetting for you because you've decided what this person's like. Yeah, a- and they can, they'll fall in love and make future plans with somebody.
4:34 Speaker 00 Yeah.
4:35 Speaker 01 Despite having known them a few days or whatever.
4:37 Speaker 00 Yeah.
4:38 Speaker 01 You know, like, that's limerence.
4:39 Speaker 00 I think I, I do that a lot.
4:40 Speaker 01 Do you think so?
4:41 Speaker 00 Yeah.
4:42 Speaker 01 So apparently, so then limerence happens, a, a ver- a sort of limerence happens whenever you meet somebody. Like, it would have happened to, like, a version of limerence would have happened, I might be getting this wrong. A version of limerence might have happened when you first got together with Kat.
4:53 Speaker 00 Yeah, yeah.
4:53 Speaker 01 And then what happens is, is that, that's when you're chemically bonding to each other or neurochemical, I don't know, I'm using the wrong terms. And then what happens is that fades, because you can't be.
5:02 Speaker 00 Yeah, yeah.
5:03 Speaker 01 You can't be like that forever. And then you see what actually you've got.
5:06 Speaker 00 Yeah.
5:07 Speaker 01 Do you know what I mean? Because that, that sort of infatuation sort of dies down and then you settle into a thing. And sometimes people, they get limerent about people and become really obsessive. And then the idea that they won't end up together is fucking heartbreaking, but actually it's not real.
5:22 Speaker 00 Wow.
5:23 Speaker 01 They're in love with an im- a, a version of them.
5:25 Speaker 00 Wow.
5:27 Speaker 01 That's limerence.
5:28 Speaker 00 Wow.
5:28 Speaker 01 That's why when, when the Lucky Leopard said, we got together very quickly, that, that is one of the hallmarks of limerence.
5:35 Speaker 00 Yeah, they, yeah, yeah. I've done that, I've done that.
5:37 Speaker 01 But it doesn't sound like it. I mean, it could have been limerence that's turned into a real thing.
5:40 Speaker 00 Yeah, I think there was an era of limerence with me and Catherine.
5:42 Speaker 01 You think so?
5:43 Speaker 00 Yeah.
5:44 Speaker 01 I think there's a lim- an era of limerence, not with me, but Lisa was so thirsty.
5:47 Speaker 00 Was she?
5:48 Speaker 01 Oh my god.
5:48 Speaker 00 I can't imagine Lisa being thirsty.
5:50 Speaker 01 Just chill out.
5:51 Speaker 00 Honestly, Lisa, I can't imagine that at all. I could imagine you being like that.
5:56 Speaker 01 What are you doing?
5:58 Speaker 01 Look over here, can't you see me? Um.
6:08 Speaker 00 It's so funny, just everything I say right now, all I can see, look at you and just think is the banter.
6:16 Speaker 01 Uh, apologies, but you've just been hit by the banter cannon.
6:23 Speaker 00 I thought you've been hit by.
6:24 Speaker 01 A warning, I hope you're enjoying the wedding, just a quick, here's something you could do at the wedding, here's a quick, I could come along and go, here's a quick warning. Be careful that you don't catch any strays from the banter cannon.
6:35 Speaker 00 Watch out for limerence guests, um.
6:38 Speaker 01 Have I told you about limerence? I thought it was, I thought you were in limerence, but you're married now, so.
6:43 Speaker 00 Uh, firstly, I think your wedding, by the way.
6:46 Speaker 01 Sounds amazing. I do this great, they're doing the stuff they wanna do, right?
6:50 Speaker 00 Yeah, exactly. That's, I think the stuff that when you break against convention a bit and do things a little differently, I think it's fun. I think, I think my wedding, one of my favourite days of my life, but I think.
7:04 Speaker 01 Your wedding was?
7:05 Speaker 00 Yeah, I think we had a great day, but then there's some bits of it, I wish we'd just been a bit more, oh fuck it, and just gone with, we originally were probably more like this. And then you get, we fall into a place of convention, we've got to do this at a certain time.
7:17 Speaker 01 So what did you do that you regret?
7:19 Speaker 00 Do you know what?
7:20 Speaker 01 I know what cats regret.
7:23 Speaker 01 Banter cannon locked.
7:25 Speaker 00 I wish the banter cannon was there, that's one of my big regrets, I didn't know you well enough at that time. Um, but, um.
7:31 Speaker 01 I invited you to my.
7:32 Speaker 00 Yeah, fucking, I should have run, if you wanna run, Jesus Christ, should clip up all the bits where you bring this up, I feel really bad about that. And a bloody tour show, I wish I was there, I wish I cancelled that bloody show now, it's actually a stinker as well.
7:46 Speaker 00 The, I wish, do you know, photos, I wish we hadn't done as much, like the staged photos, the staged ones.
7:50 Speaker 01 Oh, the staged photos.
7:52 Speaker 00 We hate them, we've never looked at them.
7:54 Speaker 01 Yeah, cause they're awful.
7:55 Speaker 00 They're awful, but actually the pictures of us having fun with our guests and enjoying our moments together, that weren't posed, a lot better than, you know, the people that people at the wedding took.
8:05 Speaker 01 The candid snaps.
8:05 Speaker 00 Yes, oh wow, I love that, the candid snaps, uh, not here just for banter, the cannon can fire some sense too, um.
8:14 Speaker 01 Yeah, please, I'd love it if you got me one that said sense cannon too.
8:18 Speaker 00 Sense cannon. Oh, he's worried about the result, boys. That he's got a sense cannon. Um, I would say, I, I, I always think, yeah, things are a little bit different. I, the, uh, uh, like a photo booth saw as a laugh, I think. But they've become all the rage now. We had a prosecco van, uh, that was quite a cool thing. A little present, little self, little, go around a little prosecco. I, I went to one wedding and I just had all the street foods. It was one of the best things I've ever seen.
8:45 Speaker 01 Hmm. Ben Green had a pizza van, turned up.
8:47 Speaker 00 Oh, yeah. That's Ben for you.
8:49 Speaker 01 Hmm.
8:49 Speaker 00 He's a classy guy, he's Ben.
8:51 Speaker 01 We had such great food at our Varonia. We looked, sort of looked at the guests and got stuff that they'd like, but obviously we didn't have to take you into account because.
8:58 Speaker 00 What did you?
8:58 Speaker 01 You didn't come.
8:59 Speaker 00 What did you have? What sort of food?
9:00 Speaker 01 We had like little snacky bits. Some, there was a samosa station.
9:04 Speaker 00 God, I wish I'd been there for them.
9:06 Speaker 01 Uh.
9:06 Speaker 00 Samosas station?
9:08 Speaker 01 Yeah, there's like a little podium with like loads of samosas and we had like biscuits and cake and, and sandwiches. We had like cool stuff.
9:14 Speaker 00 What's the difference between a stall and a station?
9:16 Speaker 01 Don't know, actually.
9:18 Speaker 00 I think it just sounds better, doesn't it?
9:19 Speaker 01 Late on in the evening.
9:21 Speaker 00 Yeah.
9:22 Speaker 01 Brought out some burritos.
9:23 Speaker 00 Oh, wow. You love burritos.
9:25 Speaker 01 Ten thirty, eleven. Yeah.
9:26 Speaker 00 You're a burrito guy.
9:27 Speaker 01 I am a burrito guy. Oh, you know what I like? Little, tiny little soft shell tacos.
9:31 Speaker 00 Yeah, nice.
9:32 Speaker 01 Rack them up, skin them up yourself. Little mouthful. Beautiful.
9:36 Speaker 00 I heard a story of.
9:37 Speaker 01 You should have those, Lucky Leopard. Get tacos.
9:39 Speaker 00 A story of a guy who, who was a good burrito maker. And then decided to branch out. It was sort of a friend of a friend's birthday.
9:47 Speaker 01 Hmm.
9:47 Speaker 00 And he got sort of, everyone was like, you should do your burritos at his birthday. Um, I didn't go to this, this is a friend of a friend. And, um, they said that the panic attack that this guy had, because basically he, he turned up to do the burritos, thinking, oh, this will be great. I'll do my burritos for everyone. And everyone wanted his burritos. And he had no, like, he had no experience in, in running a kitchen. So it was just apparently really overwhelming with people just shouting out different flavours and different things they wanted. And he, the, the, the guy that I know who went, he was like, oh my god, it was like. It was an absolute panic attack.
10:19 Speaker 01 Have you ever thought about opening up a food thing?
10:21 Speaker 00 I'd love to.
10:22 Speaker 01 What would you do?
10:23 Speaker 00 What if I was going?
10:24 Speaker 01 Cause I think thi- this is a bit of you, actually. I, I, when you sort of think about people taking up side hustles.
10:29 Speaker 00 Yeah.
10:30 Speaker 01 Like you having a food truck.
10:32 Speaker 00 Yeah.
10:32 Speaker 01 That is.
10:33 Speaker 00 I'd love a food truck.
10:34 Speaker 01 So on brand for you.
10:35 Speaker 00 I, it's tough, probably, do you know the thing that, lucky enough for me, I've had a few health issues, we talked, I don't want to get into it.
10:42 Speaker 01 Luckily.
10:42 Speaker 00 Uh, lucky, luckily I've had some health issues, it's given me some content for the book. Um, no, but I, I, I was on this diet where I couldn't, I'm, I'm back now, I've had to reintroduce things slowly. Do you have a food that I just, I, at one point they were like, you might have stayed away from this, this and this. The food that I was genuinely devastated, and I was nearly in tears about, there's one spicy food that like you might not be able to eat spicy food. And I was, the thought of going for the rest of my life.
11:07 Speaker 01 Hmm.
11:07 Speaker 00 Would never eat a curry again. I was like, and, and now I can, I've had, well Catherine was like, okay.
11:13 Speaker 01 What did you get, korma?
11:15 Speaker 00 No.
11:16 Speaker 01 Well, I'm saying you're easing yourself back into it.
11:18 Speaker 00 That's a masala, it's an ease back in, I'm not a fucking korma.
11:21 Speaker 01 Alright.
11:22 Speaker 00 I have a korma, if Catherine's got a korma, I have some of it, I'm not ordering a korma.
11:25 Speaker 01 Okay, fine.
11:26 Speaker 00 I'd literally.
11:27 Speaker 01 And that's, that, that, that is a good principle to have, you'll eat somebody else's korma, but not order your own, yeah, fucking hell. What an edgy guy, what a real curry connoisseur.
11:34 Speaker 00 King, porn, P R A, um, yeah, Rogue and Josh, um, but yeah, I'm, I'm back on the curry.
11:40 Speaker 01 How was it eating the curry, you nervous?
11:42 Speaker 00 Yeah, cause I was like, this is, yeah, you know, like, you know when a footballer's been injured, like Saka's been out of the game for a while.
11:47 Speaker 01 Yeah.
11:48 Speaker 00 It's like, fucking hell, that first touch of the ball, the first kick, and I've still got it.
11:51 Speaker 01 What did you order?
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12:52 Speaker 00 I had a prawn puree to start. My king prawn puree, this guy makes the best.
12:56 Speaker 01 Yeah, I mean, I don't think I've heard that dish before you said it just now.
13:00 Speaker 00 What?
13:00 Speaker 01 King prawn puree?
13:02 Speaker 00 Yeah.
13:03 Speaker 01 Puree?
13:04 Speaker 00 What do you call it?
13:05 Speaker 01 I don't know.
13:05 Speaker 00 Have you had a king prawn puree?
13:08 Speaker 01 Puree is like, puree is like mashed up.
13:11 Speaker 00 Yeah, but it's like a, yeah.
13:13 Speaker 01 I've never heard that, king prawn puree.
13:16 Speaker 00 P U R R E E, I think.
13:19 Speaker 01 Puri?
13:20 Speaker 00 Puri. I've been called a puree for years. They've never corrected me.
13:24 Speaker 01 King prawn puri is a popular Indian restaurant star featuring spicy tangy sauce prawns. Oh, on a puri?
13:29 Speaker 00 Yeah. I've been called a king prawn puree for the last 20 years. Is that normal? All me and my friends call it that. Oh, God. That's, that is it. That, that's the dish. That is my welcome back. It's the best thing.
13:48 Speaker 01 Yeah. And where's the puree in that dish?
13:50 Speaker 00 I thought it was the sauce.
13:52 Speaker 01 They probably minced up the garlic.
13:53 Speaker 00 Yeah, I think the sauce, that's what I thought.
13:54 Speaker 01 King prawn puree, when you said it, to me, that's just like they give you a bowl of like baby food. It's just like fucking mashed up.
14:00 Speaker 00 So, how's it pronounced?
14:02 Speaker 01 Puri.
14:02 Speaker 00 Puri, yeah, anyway.
14:04 Speaker 01 King prawn puri.
14:04 Speaker 00 I had that.
14:05 Speaker 01 I think if you're getting puree, just if you're getting what you want, and when you say that, just keep saying it.
14:09 Speaker 00 I, I, so.
14:10 Speaker 01 You can't change a habit.
14:11 Speaker 00 Can I just say, I always, no, I feel shameful that I've got that wrong all the time. Because I think, you go to an Indian restaurant, right? My favorite sort of food, and I'm getting the name wrong. And they're so sweet and nice that they never turn around and go, by the way, it's this.
14:23 Speaker 01 But you've not only been to that restaurant, so that's happening everywhere.
14:25 Speaker 00 Yeah, I've been going, yeah, because, but this is the problem with my kind, with me is like, we turn up and, and they, they feel so like, what we should do is just go, oh, actually, how do we pronounce that? We just take it as it is. We do that in Spain, we do that in France.
14:41 Speaker 01 Hold on a second. You're being a bit harsh on yourself here. You thought it was called king prawn puree?
14:46 Speaker 00 Yeah.
14:47 Speaker 01 Puree, sorry.
14:48 Speaker 00 Puree, yeah.
14:48 Speaker 01 Yeah, so I mistakenly pronounced it correctly. So you thought it was called King Prawn Puree.
14:53 Speaker 00 Yeah.
14:53 Speaker 01 You've gone to an Indian restaurant, you said, can I get King Prawn Puree?
14:56 Speaker 00 Yeah.
14:56 Speaker 01 And they've brought you the dish that you wanted.
14:58 Speaker 00 Yeah, yeah.
14:58 Speaker 01 At what point are you supposed to reflect on what you've said?
15:01 Speaker 00 Because that's not what a.
15:02 Speaker 01 Yeah, but you didn't know that. You're going, you're going to the thing, you're asking for the thing, they give you the thing you want.
15:06 Speaker 00 Yeah, yeah, but no, but more, but more though, it's, I just feel bad that that's not how it's pronounced.
15:11 Speaker 01 But far, but look, you know now.
15:12 Speaker 00 Yeah.
15:13 Speaker 01 But I don't think you start feeling bad about the fact you've been calling it puree all this time.
15:16 Speaker 00 Yeah, but it's so not the, the dish.
15:17 Speaker 01 Yeah, but you didn't know.
15:18 Speaker 00 But anyway.
15:19 Speaker 01 You're getting the dish you wanted.
15:20 Speaker 00 Yeah.
15:20 Speaker 01 I think you're being too harsh on yourself.
15:22 Speaker 00 I, I went back in, curry was great, but I will say that the thing that I, I long for, and I, I, I'm still not, is a, is a good burger.
15:30 Speaker 01 Yeah.
15:30 Speaker 00 I think a burger van would be what I'd, like a good high-class burger van.
15:33 Speaker 01 Yeah, I think you should open one.
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16:35 Speaker 00 Maybe I will.
16:36 Speaker 01 Maybe you should.
16:37 Speaker 00 Where, where would I have it, like on industrial estates and stuff?
16:40 Speaker 01 Yeah, or you could go into film sets.
16:42 Speaker 00 Yeah, but I feel a bit sad if I'm not my-
16:44 Speaker 01 It's so funny, you go up for something, you don't get it and then-
16:46 Speaker 00 Yeah.
16:46 Speaker 01 And then you go, "Look, I know I didn't get the part, but you will be seeing me."
16:50 Speaker 00 Yeah, you might see me with my taco truck.
16:53 Speaker 01 Um, think about it.
16:55 Speaker 00 Yeah.
16:55 Speaker 01 Have we only done one email?
16:57 Speaker 00 The way auditions have gone, that could be something I might do.
16:59 Speaker 01 We've only done one email, we've got to wrap up. Lucky Leopard will see, will see you at the wedding.
17:03 Speaker 00 Well, by the way, if that is an invite, I think that would be an amazing one.
17:06 Speaker 01 It's not an invite, quite clear about it.
17:07 Speaker 00 But I think you DJ and me, I could bring the burger van.
17:09 Speaker 01 Great idea. If you want burgers and music-
17:12 Speaker 00 Yeah.
17:12 Speaker 01 Call someone.
17:13 Speaker 00 Yeah.
17:13 Speaker 01 Uh-
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