Pod Insights Wolf & Owl with Romesh Ranganathan and Tom Davis Korean Skincare, Smoothie Makers and Bad Gifts About this episode What does Tom use in the shower? What’s the secret to Romesh’s glistening skin and which comedian did he go make-up shopping with? On this episode we also discuss how to know when it’s time for a career change and what exactly is a boomerang gift? and have we given one... Send your dilemmas, questions and voice notes to us at [email protected] A Ranga Bee Production in partnership with Platform Media.
Chapters:
00:00 Intro03:14 Career change12:59 Boomerang gifts17:40 Korean skincare
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Transcript 0:14 Speaker 00 Hello motherfuckers, it's time for the Wolfen
0:18 Speaker 01 What a fucking intro!
0:19 Speaker 00 It's time for the Wolfen our email special. This is where we just go through emails, if you want to send an email in, [email protected] . We'd love a voice note, wouldn't we?
0:29 Speaker 01 Yeah, we'd love a voice, also we need some more reads for this podcast, so we're gonna have to start with, like, pretend, I'm gonna pretend read.
0:36 Speaker 00 What do you mean?
0:37 Speaker 01 This email special is sponsored by Dove.
0:41 Speaker 00 We're not getting any money for that.
0:42 Speaker 01 Yeah, no, but then double hear it and potentially-
0:44 Speaker 00 We'll double hear it and go, shall we pay them for an advert they've given us for free?
0:48 Speaker 01 No, but other people go, "Oh, fucking hell, you had a Dove advert."
0:50 Speaker 00 Okay.
0:50 Speaker 01 Yeah.
0:51 Speaker 00 Well, okay, actually give a good advert then.
0:53 Speaker 01 What does Dove do? Is it for you?
0:54 Speaker 00 Soap.
0:55 Speaker 01 Soap, okay. This episode is sponsored by Dove Soap. The best soap on the market, keeps you clean, ready and, ooh, smelling nice. Dove, that's D-O-V-E, Dove.
1:10 Speaker 00 Why did you smell your hand like that?
1:13 Speaker 01 I don't know, that's because then you get the full, you get the inside of your hand.
1:15 Speaker 00 Do you?
1:16 Speaker 01 The smell can't go anywhere.
1:18 Speaker 00 What does your hand smell like now?
1:20 Speaker 01 The soap from your bathroom. I love soap, by the way, and Dove is my special friend.
1:26 Speaker 00 Yeah, soap's good. What do you use in the shower?
1:30 Speaker 01 Dove, obviously, because it's Dove.
1:31 Speaker 00 Okay, but imagine that-
1:33 Speaker 01 Okay.
1:33 Speaker 00 Imagine that we're taking a pause from the sponsorship.
1:38 Speaker 01 I vary it up for Watsonsailing Boots.
1:41 Speaker 00 But are you soap or shagel?
1:43 Speaker 01 Oh, shagel. I would never use soap.
1:45 Speaker 00 Why?
1:45 Speaker 01 I think it's barbaric and insane to use soap.
1:47 Speaker 00 What do you mean barbaric?
1:48 Speaker 01 Because I just think, I don't know, I just find it just slipping all over the place. Sort of slip at you, then you've got to pick it up off the floor. It's just, yeah, I find soaps are so dated. I know, it's like trying to look noble, walking with a cane.
2:01 Speaker 00 I don't think that's what soap is, I don't think that works.
2:03 Speaker 01 It is, it just feels, yeah, then you've got to get a soap dish somewhere to put it.
2:06 Speaker 00 Yeah, I mean, that's true, and it gets a bit funky, but I like soap.
2:10 Speaker 01 Do you like soap?
2:10 Speaker 00 Yeah, I don't use it very often.
2:11 Speaker 01 That's one of the last things I'd say about you.
2:13 Speaker 00 I sort of alternate.
2:14 Speaker 01 Yeah, I mean, you're that sort of guy, I guess.
2:16 Speaker 00 Yeah, sometimes I'll be shagel.
2:18 Speaker 01 You like to keep people guessing.
2:19 Speaker 00 Yeah, Lisa's like, "Fucking hell, this is why I love you." "You're the gift that keeps on giving, so are you using soap today?"
2:27 Speaker 01 I always think I never feel clean enough.
2:29 Speaker 00 Can't wait. Yeah, of course you do. You'd lather up a treat, mate.
2:32 Speaker 01 No, I don't know. I like shower gel. What's the mint shower gel that you get?
2:36 Speaker 00 Yeah, mint.
2:37 Speaker 01 No, no, no, but there's a brand.
2:39 Speaker 00 Yeah, I know what you're talking about.
2:40 Speaker 01 It makes you feel like it literally is.
2:41 Speaker 00 It makes you tingly, yeah.
2:41 Speaker 01 Yeah, I love that.
2:43 Speaker 00 Original source, there you go.
2:45 Speaker 01 John, by the way, little known, in fact, John is a shower gel nerd. He loves different shower gels.
2:50 Speaker 00 Yeah.
2:50 Speaker 01 He sometimes on his day off just goes through Boots and sniffing different ones.
2:55 Speaker 00 He came in the other day, he's talked ten minutes non-stop about matey bubbles.
3:03 Speaker 01 John, we talked about last week about tattoos. John has got original source tattooed across his back.
3:07 Speaker 00 Yeah.
3:07 Speaker 01 Um, that's his. Jump stamp.
3:10 Speaker 00 Um, okay, should we do an email? Do you wanna read or shall I?
3:13 Speaker 01 I think you go, you go.
3:14 Speaker 00 Dear Wolf and Alan, I'd like this to be kept anonymous if possible. By way of background, I'm a twenty-nine-year-old living and working in London. I'm not married and have no kids. I've been working in finance for nearly six years, since leaving university. And since the day I started, I've always known deep down that this is not the life for me. Every time I came close to living, I'd say to myself, just a few more months of saving or just wait for the bonus and then I'll do it. Obviously, you never do. Part of the issue is that I'm not completely miserable. I work with nice people and I get some nice experiences out of it, but I do not feel fulfilled by my work. Another problem is that after six years, I'm lucky enough to be financially comfortable and I feel a bit trapped by that. Also, I'm terrified that if I gave up the opportunity that I have, then I will regret it in ten years' time when I might have a wife and kids. If I'm honest, I would love to do something that involves more than just sitting behind a desk and allowed for more creativity.
3:57 Speaker 00 I love comedy and podcasts. When I was younger, I always thought about working in podcast or radio production, but never saw a route in. I was jockeyed into a more traditional career by my family and schooling system without even realising it. I'm amazed that John's allowed this to slip through, bearing in mind that he could lose a job here. Apologies for the life story, but in short, given you both had career changes and work in the fields I'm interested in, I would love to hear your take on my situation and what steps you think I should take in order to feel more fulfilled. Yours truly, the confused corporate drone.
4:26 Speaker 01 Well.
4:26 Speaker 00 Tom.
4:28 Speaker 01 Well firstly, I I would say you're probably, I don't know, I'm being, I I'd say by the sounds of things financially, you're more financially comfortable certainly than I was when I got into this industry. I didn't, you know, I I had no savings. I didn't, and I think I'd imagine you would be the same.
4:43 Speaker 00 No savings, no.
4:44 Speaker 01 Yeah, so um first, I I think my my big point would be, I think there's not really a reason you can't be, in the situation you're in, you're you're working, you've got a good job, which seems like you you you're blessed at the moment in a current economic situation to be financially comfortable, which is a great thing. Uh so that's something not to be sniffed at, but and also you're in a situation where you you've not settled down, you've not got a wife or long term relationship, you've not got kids. So I think actually what I would suggest is is looking at something where you go and as a hobby or as a side hustle or something you're just going to do just for enjoyment is going to do, whether it's stand up or whether it's you you start, you know, helping out podcasts that you're producing or or.
5:27 Speaker 00 Don't encourage me to get into stand up.
5:29 Speaker 01 Yeah, but.
5:30 Speaker 00 There's enough stand ups.
5:31 Speaker 01 Yeah, but I think I I think the the difference is, right, I think, I don't know how you, when I first got into stand, I never saw it as, oh, this is going to be the thing that.
5:37 Speaker 00 No.
5:38 Speaker 01 It's going to be my career.
5:39 Speaker 00 No, me neither.
5:40 Speaker 01 I I I looked at it as being like, I literally.
5:42 Speaker 00 When I first watched you, I thought this, this isn't something.
5:47 Speaker 01 I I know that every day I turn up in the studio, you go, I can't believe this guy's still going.
5:53 Speaker 01 Um no, but I I never saw it as, oh, this is going to be the thing that I just saw it as like this will be a break from doing the thing that I've been doing for so many years and actually just saw it as a bit of a laugh. And something just fun just to to let out a creative side. I didn't see, it wasn't a bit, I never business plan or I'm five, six years, I'm gonna do this. It's all been a lot of luck, but I think that, I think, and I think that's a part of it. I think a lot, what I notice is a lot more people, certainly generationally after us, were starting to get into it going, although this is a career, this is something I could actually be. That could, you know, I could earn money for whatever. And I actually think sometimes just going into something like a standard or something creative is it and just getting that release out of it and going. I actually, I just enjoy doing it for this reason. I just enjoy it because, you know, I do this job.
6:38 Speaker 01 I'm good at the job I do. I work with nice people, which should never ever be something you you. That's a great thing. I think so many people and a lot of emails we get in are people who work in toxic environments or people that they don't get on with. So I think you've got that to look and go, right, actually, this is and. You know, add to your life and and and make your life more fulfilled, more rounded by going, but then I'm gonna do this thing. I'll do this thing for myself. That's just my little thing. I'm gonna go and do something creative. I wanna paint or I'm gonna do, I I I think. As best you can and and it's tou- tough to find the time. But I think doing create, anything creative for yourself, whether it's writing, painting, stand up, whatever you do. Always feels that actually it's it's cathartic and actually it it gives you a little bit sense of self. I think it's something that can actually.
7:22 Speaker 01 Ment- mental health wise, it it can be a release, a little bit like working out or running or whatever. So I just think getting something like that in your life and see, just see where it goes. Don't put too much pressure on yourself. Just, I think, take your time, enjoy it, find a style or find something that just works for you and do that thing. Uh, I certainly wouldn't be going, I'll give up your job and go for it because I think that'd just be insane advice. I think going, right, you know. Count your blessings, great job, good life, and then. Add that to you, add that to your arsenal.
7:50 Speaker 00 Really, really great advice. And thank you for saying the word arsenal.
7:54 Speaker 01 Yeah.
7:54 Speaker 00 Um, I.
7:56 Speaker 01 I feel like it's such a hard word to say for you at the moment.
7:58 Speaker 00 Don't do this.
7:59 Speaker 01 No, no, no, because I don't know. I don't know. I don't wanna get into it.
8:02 Speaker 00 Yeah, no, that's not good. Like, this is not a football podcast.
8:05 Speaker 01 Which we should do one.
8:06 Speaker 00 We should do one, um, but we're not going to.
8:08 Speaker 01 No, no, I mean, it's literally.
8:10 Speaker 00 Barely got the time to make the commitments of this one.
8:12 Speaker 01 Yeah.
8:12 Speaker 00 Let's not start talking about another one. Um, look, I I think you spend so much of your life working.
8:20 Speaker 01 Yeah.
8:21 Speaker 00 That it's really important that you enjoy that job and you feel fulfilled by it, I think. And and that could be anything, but the one hesitation I've got about what you said is that they've not actually tried what they've done yet, what they wanna do yet. So you've got no idea actually if you're gonna like it. So I think Tom's advice is good of of like giving a go at a few things as a side hustle. Cause I think for me, like Tom, I started doing stand up as a hobby and then I fell in love with it. And so I was like, I'd love to do this for a job, but I wasn't going into it thinking I'm gonna leave teaching and this is I'm gonna make this my thing. So I think you need to have a go at these things. I I think financial security is such a poisonous fucking thing, in my opinion.
9:01 Speaker 01 Yeah.
9:02 Speaker 00 Because the truth is, beyond a certain point, you can be financially comfortable at so many different levels, like you've just got to think about what you want your level of comfort to be, cause I I I'll be honest, I don't want this to happen. But I would do this same job for a lot less money than I'm doing it for now.
9:23 Speaker 01 Well, also, I I would say that weirdly, uh my point that the the top of this. I I I I certainly didn't when I started this and and and I've never ever felt for that, coming from the background I think both of us come from. And the lifestyle that we've both come from, from the from the world that we come from, I've ne- I've never felt financially comfortable. Until, you know, even now, I I panic all the time, it's I I, you know, not to get too into depth of about it, but it's something I can't, it's my biggest worry all the time, because coming from that, so to be in a situation where you are financially comfortable, I don't think there's, I I don't think that should be the thing that propels you wherever you, you know.
10:00 Speaker 00 No, cause I think like, you know, what what I I think what you've got to think about is what are the, what are the. Pros and cons about following each path and and I think like if you are not fulfilled by your job. I think what, you know, a lot of the time when you're thinking about things like this, because I think people have inertia and they get stuck in the thing they're doing, whether that be a relationship or work or whatever. And they go, this is what I'm in now. It's not going particularly badly, so I'm just gonna stay in this. But one of the useful things to think about is, and I think I've talked about this before, is if you had a button and you pressed that and you're doing something different, would you push that button? You know, you you there'd be no issues, you wouldn't have to quit, you'd just be not doing that job. Would you do it? And if that's, if you would do it, then you need to leave, you know, I I I do think.
10:44 Speaker 00 We should be thinking about. Getting the most out of our lives because, and I'm not talking about money wise, I'm talking about enjoyment and fulfillment and. You know, I I think, you know, people talk about goals. I think one of the best goals you can set yourself is how do I guarantee? That most days I have a good day, right? How how do I? How do I get as close as possible to securing having a good day? Every day of work or at home or whatever. What have I got to do to make that happen? And that doesn't, I'm not talking about money, I'm talking about going into, like, for example, we're coming in to do this podcast. I was fucking buzzing to come and do this today, right? So today's a good, a great day for me, right? And that's because this is what I've chosen to do for a job. So.
11:28 Speaker 00 It's that thing of like, and I'm not thinking about the money of it.
11:31 Speaker 01 No, no.
11:31 Speaker 00 Although we are well remunerated for this.
11:33 Speaker 01 Yeah.
11:33 Speaker 00 I mean, more, definitely more money than we should be getting.
11:36 Speaker 01 Yeah.
11:36 Speaker 00 From what we're delivering.
11:37 Speaker 01 Yeah.
11:37 Speaker 00 It's just, it's a piece of shit. Anyway, the point is. I was buzzing about today.
11:41 Speaker 01 Yeah.
11:42 Speaker 00 And then. So so I think it's like, if you're not enjoying your days. For the most part, everybody has shit days.
11:50 Speaker 01 Yeah.
11:51 Speaker 00 Do you know what I mean? Then something needs to change. And so I think for you, uh, corporate drone, the problem you've got is you don't, you haven't actually found the other thing that you might wanna rather do. So I think. I would treat the next few months as like you playing around and seeing if there's something else that you prefer. And if you do find something that you really find exciting. Go for it. The one thing I would say is you do have to take into account. The newness factor of anything you do.
12:19 Speaker 01 Yeah.
12:19 Speaker 00 A a and and so when you're doing something that isn't your job. You're excited by it because it isn't your job. But I'd say like, we were excited by comedy. And then when you, when you start making it your job, you do run the risk of ruining it for yourself, right?
12:31 Speaker 01 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
12:31 Speaker 00 It becomes a grind or whatever.
12:33 Speaker 01 Yeah.
12:33 Speaker 00 And you have to be careful of that. But look, I, I, I am of the opinion that we should be, we should be looking to make our lives as enjoyable as possible. But you have to, that has to be a considered decision. Don't just go fuck you to your boss, leave and then start trying to get into a podcast. I, I would make that as safe a decision as possible by looking at these things and seeing if you can get into it.
12:57 Speaker 02 This episode is brought to you by Petivity. Cat parents are basically mealtime detectives. Who actually ate? Did they finish? Was that less than yesterday? The new Petivity Smart Feeder for cats turns everyday meals into meaningful health insights, helping you identify changes in your cat's habits and be more proactive about their health. Plus, you can feed them from anywhere. Take the mystery out of mealtime. Visit petivity.com, P E T I V I T Y dot com slash cat feeder to learn more.
13:28 Speaker 03 Gray roots entering the chat, uninvited? Garnier's got you. Garnier Color Sensation Root Retouch covers up to 100% of grays in just 10 minutes. No ammonia, no mess, and the color lasts up to four weeks. It's as easy to apply as shampoo. Plus, it's vegan and cruelty free. 10 minutes, sensational color, sensational price. With those savings, your next girls' night is basically free. Find your perfect match at walmart.com or at a store near you.
13:59 Speaker 01 Dear Wolfenow, this is the Cantagorous Crow of Cabina. Wow.
14:04 Speaker 00 I'm glad you got this one.
14:05 Speaker 01 Thank you.
14:06 Speaker 00 I think, I think it might be pronounced Cabena.
14:08 Speaker 01 Okay, I mean, I'm quite proud that I got through Cantagorous.
14:12 Speaker 00 Well, you didn't actually, it's cantankerous.
14:14 Speaker 01 Okay, well, there we go. With the slightly ruffled feathers, writing in with a tale of gift giving. It's gone slightly array. I fucking hate this. In the run up to Christmas, my wife hadn't mentioned wanting an essential oil vaporizer. So I thoughtfully purchased one for her. All seemed well until a week later, I received a notification from Amazon. Informing me that she'd ordered one too. Naturally, this raised an eyebrow.
14:37 Speaker 00 Hmm.
14:37 Speaker 01 Mildly irritated and thoroughly confused, I revealed that I'd already brought her one. Her response, the one she ordered was actually my Christmas present. Now I can say with complete confidence that I had never expressed any desire for such an item, which only deepened the mystery. So my question to you both is, have you ever or received a true boomerang present? And if so, how did it play out?
15:00 Speaker 00 What what does boomerang present mean?
15:02 Speaker 01 I'm guessing a present that sort of comes back, like that someone buys to get back for themselves.
15:08 Speaker 00 I think you're right.
15:09 Speaker 01 Yeah, I think that's probably what it is.
15:10 Speaker 00 Um, have you ever given or received a boomerang present?
15:13 Speaker 01 I have given Catherine, I got a. A cat.
15:19 Speaker 00 You got an erotic dancer, didn't you?
15:20 Speaker 01 Yeah, I got a stripper to turn a stripper called Mel, who turned up at the house, bless her. Um, it's just lovely woman. It was quite a strange Christmas Eve, um, with my parents and everyone there, but, um.
15:31 Speaker 00 And then didn't you, for your anniversary, you got the cameo video from Bonnie Blue?
15:37 Speaker 01 No, I got a certificate for being the eight hundredth guy through the door. No, I I got Catherine as a portable smoothie maker.
15:46 Speaker 00 Right. And had she ever said she wanted one?
15:48 Speaker 01 No, but I said that I kind of wanted one.
15:51 Speaker 00 Right.
15:51 Speaker 01 And it, I got it for one Christmas and she was like this feels like, and her thing was, her bone of contention was, you're literally the hardest person to buy for. And if you wanted a fucking portable smoothie maker, which clearly you did, because you bought one for yourself and dressed it up that you wanted, I wanted it. You should have just, because she struggled to buy me a present.
16:09 Speaker 00 Right.
16:09 Speaker 01 But then weirdly, what happened in a lovely twist of fate is she then started using the port, you know.
16:15 Speaker 00 Oh, that's so lovely.
16:16 Speaker 01 So actually now.
16:17 Speaker 00 That's quite annoying for you, though.
16:18 Speaker 01 Yeah, because now I need to, if anyone does know what, wanna know what one of the things to get me is a portable smoothie maker.
16:23 Speaker 00 Yeah.
16:23 Speaker 01 I'm being open about, open about, I mean, we've, yeah.
16:25 Speaker 00 Yeah, I mean, it's within your grasp to just buy one for yourself, isn't it?
16:28 Speaker 01 Yeah, but I don't know, it's a sort of gift.
16:30 Speaker 00 Something nice about getting as a gift.
16:31 Speaker 01 Yeah.
16:31 Speaker 00 I just bought one for myself, actually.
16:33 Speaker 01 A portable, yeah.
16:33 Speaker 00 Yeah.
16:34 Speaker 01 They're a great thing.
16:34 Speaker 00 It's good, yeah, really.
16:35 Speaker 01 Yeah, yeah.
16:36 Speaker 00 Yeah.
16:36 Speaker 01 Do you wash it all the time?
16:37 Speaker 00 No, never washed it.
16:39 Speaker 01 Like your hair.
16:39 Speaker 00 What kind of fucking question is that?
16:41 Speaker 01 No, they're a bit of a pain to wash.
16:43 Speaker 00 Yeah, they're annoying, yeah.
16:43 Speaker 01 If you're out and about, so some people leave them in their bag and they sort of get dirty and stuff.
16:49 Speaker 01 Just saying, that's the thing.
16:50 Speaker 00 Yeah.
16:51 Speaker 01 I remember seeing in someone's bag at the gym, I sort of had a little snoop and, um. And I saw that it's dirty, smelly old thing, it looked like it was all dry and it hadn't been cleaned and yeah.
17:01 Speaker 00 I mean, that's the point with like when you have those protein shaped bottles.
17:04 Speaker 01 Yeah.
17:05 Speaker 00 And you leave them for, so if you leave them for more than forty five seconds.
17:07 Speaker 01 Yeah, they just dry out, yeah.
17:09 Speaker 00 Fucking shit.
17:09 Speaker 01 Yeah, but Mandrill doesn't actually, Mandrill keeps a nice smell. So if anyone's interested, this episode is sponsored by Mandrill. Protein, uh. Creatine and electrolytes.
17:19 Speaker 00 It's not, it's not.
17:20 Speaker 01 Mandrill.
17:21 Speaker 00 It's not.
17:22 Speaker 01 Mandrill dot com, Mandrillprotein dot com actually is the. The name, yeah.
17:26 Speaker 00 Yeah.
17:27 Speaker 01 Um, so yeah.
17:28 Speaker 00 I think it's, it's gonna be the first time that uh somebody does a read for a company they own. And then the company comes back and said, could you redo that please? Cause you got the website wrong.
17:41 Speaker 01 You design a website. Um, have you ever done that? Has that ever been a situation?
17:45 Speaker 00 No, I've never given a Beamer and present actually.
17:47 Speaker 01 Have you ever been given one? Lisa, by the way, I can imagine is a very like culpable and essential gift giver.
17:53 Speaker 00 Okay, what's clear from that is you don't know what culpable means. Culpable means to be blamed for.
17:59 Speaker 01 Really?
17:59 Speaker 00 Yeah, it's like somebody's culpable in a.
18:01 Speaker 01 Oh, okay, alright, alright, yeah.
18:02 Speaker 00 In that, weirdly have used the word correctly about her, because she's one of the most culpable. Um, but she um, she is very good gift giver.
18:11 Speaker 01 Yeah.
18:12 Speaker 00 But she says that I'm, the same thing that Kat says about you, that apparently I'm incredibly difficult to buy for.
18:16 Speaker 01 Yeah.
18:17 Speaker 00 And actually, it slightly ruins it because she starts to get quite frustrated.
18:21 Speaker 01 So Catherine gets very anxious about it.
18:23 Speaker 00 She's sort of like, I, I don't, you don't make it easy. I don't, I don't know what it is about us that makes us difficult to buy for, but apparently.
18:30 Speaker 01 I think it's men, with a certain age.
18:32 Speaker 00 Do you think?
18:33 Speaker 01 Yeah.
18:33 Speaker 00 Yeah.
18:34 Speaker 01 I think it's like, yeah. Although you, I, I now I'm, I start to lean into face creams and stuff like that and.
18:40 Speaker 00 I um, I bought a load of Korean face creams the other day.
18:44 Speaker 01 Korean ones?
18:44 Speaker 00 Um, Korean skincare is apparently the bum.
18:46 Speaker 01 Really?
18:47 Speaker 00 Yeah.
18:47 Speaker 01 Oh, wow.
18:48 Speaker 00 Yeah.
18:48 Speaker 01 What, what, what's up with that?
18:49 Speaker 00 I got myself a toner.
18:51 Speaker 01 Yeah.
18:52 Speaker 00 And I got myself a little uh hydration serum.
18:55 Speaker 01 Wow.
18:56 Speaker 00 Can you notice any difference in my skin?
18:57 Speaker 01 Yeah, yeah, actually, yeah, I can see it glistening now in the light. Is it anything for eye bags? I've got such bad eye bags.
19:03 Speaker 00 They do stuff for eye bags. There's like a little um, it's like a little, like a mini, you know, like a deodorant, like a roll on.
19:09 Speaker 01 Yeah.
19:09 Speaker 00 It's like a tiny one and you use it under your eyes.
19:12 Speaker 01 I need to get some of that.
19:13 Speaker 00 You don't have any eye bags right now.
19:14 Speaker 01 Oh, yeah, yeah, I, I.
19:16 Speaker 00 You look beautiful.
19:17 Speaker 01 I put makeup on this morning.
19:18 Speaker 00 Did you?
19:18 Speaker 01 No, of course I didn't.
19:19 Speaker 00 I actually bought male makeup once.
19:21 Speaker 01 Yeah, that doesn't, I can imagine you did.
19:23 Speaker 00 But it's not for me.
19:25 Speaker 01 Yeah, yeah.
19:26 Speaker 00 Cause, cause I've been doing.
19:27 Speaker 01 You've got really good skin though.
19:28 Speaker 00 No, but I've been doing TV and then they've been giving us makeup.
19:31 Speaker 01 Yeah.
19:31 Speaker 00 And I thought, oh, maybe I should buy some of my own. Because, uh, I'm, cause you know, there's, there is a comedian that we both know that all, every day uses primer and.
19:40 Speaker 01 Who?
19:41 Speaker 00 I'm gonna say his name, we can bleep it out.
19:43 Speaker 01 Who?
19:43 Speaker 00 But I, he, he took me makeup shopping. He was looking for like primer and.
19:47 Speaker 01 Who?
19:48 Speaker 00 Foundation and stuff.
19:51 Speaker 01 Oh, okay. Really?
19:52 Speaker 00 Yeah.
19:53 Speaker 01 Wow.
19:53 Speaker 00 Yeah.
19:54 Speaker 01 You went makeup shopping with him?
19:57 Speaker 00 We went shopping and then he said, I need to get some makeup.
19:59 Speaker 01 Make sure you put something over his lips where you bleep it out as well, cause you've got a very sort of like efficient mouth when it comes to sort of lip reading.
20:06 Speaker 00 Okay.
20:06 Speaker 01 You'd be terrible if the sort of people were at war.
20:12 Speaker 00 Thank you so much for sending your emails in. If you wanna get in touch, you can email wolfalpod at gmail dot com. We'll see you next time.
20:20 Speaker 01 Thanks to Dove for being our official sponsor of this episode and Mandrill Protein. Um, like, subscribe, get involved. Thank you, friends.
20:27 Speaker 00 Bye.
Previous Piers Morgan, Percy Pigs and Gladiators Next Tyson Fury, Arsenal Merch and Awkward Interactions Page updated October 30, 2026 · transcript and summary are machine-generated