The Katie Price Story Nobody Knows

Katie Price opens up about the childhood experiences that shaped her life before becoming Jordan, one of Britain's most recognisable celebrities. From growing up in Brighton to facing traumatic experiences and difficult early relationships, Katie reflects on how her past influenced her understanding of love, trust and self-worth. She also revisits her unexpected journey into modelling, her search for validation, and the beginnings of a career that would change her life forever. Raw, personal and revealing, this is a conversation about the girl behind the headlines and the experiences that shaped the Katie Price we know today. We're Talking Katie Price! This conversation includes some sensitive subjects that some audience members may find difficult to listen to. Find support charities below: Samaritans: https://g2ul0.app.link/qcJLJLhBjTb Women's Aid: https://g2ul0.app.link/WyCdvWWjJOb Refuge: https://g2ul0.app.link/pmZkBsOjJOb MIND: https://g2ul0.app.link/Ne9MpdtBjTb (00:00) Intro(00:34) Katie's Childhood and Upbringing in Brighton(11:04) How Katie's Early Relationships Shaped Her(16:00) The Story Behind Katie's Modelling Career(20:41) How Katie Became a Household Name in the UK Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• 1:00Speaker 02

  Welcome to We're Talking. This week, Katie Price opens up about her childhood and the experiences that shaped her before becoming one of the UK's most recognizable public figures. This episode contains discussions of childhood sexual abuse, grooming, and trauma. Please take care whilst watching.

• 1:34Speaker 02

  So the name you were born with is?

• 1:35Speaker 03

  Oh my god, my mum. Katrina Amy Alexandria Alexis Infield.

• 1:42Speaker 02

  That was your name?

• 1:43Speaker 03

  That was my name.

• 1:44Speaker 02

  All right, so you had 16 names.

• 1:46Speaker 03

  And I hated it. And then my mum and dad divorced. And then she was with, well, I don't call him dad, I call him Paul, because I still see my dad as well. And he's surnamed Price. So then it was Infield Price, double-barreled.

• 2:01Speaker 02

  What? So it was?

• 2:02Speaker 03

  Katrina Amy Alexandria Alexis Infield Price.

• 2:06Speaker 02

  All right, so you were born in Brighton?

• 2:08Speaker 03

  In Brighton.

• 2:08Speaker 02

  I love Brighton.

• 2:09Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:10Speaker 02

  How did that area shape you as a little girl?

• 2:14Speaker 03

  Always horses. Obsessed with horses from the age of seven. Riding my bike to the horses. I had a little radio, and I strapped it to my handlebars. And I'd always be in my joppers and boots. And I was quite sporty, because my mum was in the Olympic team, English Olympic team, swimming. So obviously, my brother and me swam for Sussex. So we was a good swimmer. I did gymnastics, horse riding.

• 2:41Speaker 02

  Very athletic.

• 2:42Speaker 03

  The family are, yeah. Very healthy, very outdoorsy. So I grew up like that. Every Sunday, we'd go for dog walks and a roast dinner.

• 2:51Speaker 02

  Interesting.

• 2:51Speaker 03

  So I had a really, really good, I can't complain about my childhood at all.

• 2:56Speaker 02

  You said that horses, though.

• 2:58Speaker 03

  Horses.

• 2:59Speaker 02

  You had an affinity.

• 3:00Speaker 03

  Oh my god, I still do. They were just my life. None of my friends were into horses.

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• 4:05Speaker 03

  They still aren't. I'm always the only one. So all through my career, I've always had horses. And everyone's like, oh, you'll grow out of it. I never have done.

• 4:14Speaker 02

  You mentioned that Paul was your stepfather.

• 4:18Speaker 03

  Yeah, my mum met my real dad when she was 15. And he was a really good-looking guy. All the girls fancied him. My mum was pretty, all the guys fancied her. So they were together when they were 15.

• 4:27Speaker 02

  Okay, and what did your father do? What was his career?

• 4:30Speaker 03

  What did he do back then? Of antiques and like builder, and he sang. He's always been in a band as well.

• 4:37Speaker 02

  Oh, really?

• 4:37Speaker 03

  Yeah. He's really funny, actually. Makes me laugh. And, but he'd always have affairs behind my mum's back. So Paul, my dad, used to work for my real dad. And he used to give him money to take me and my brother out with my mum. So that's how my mum started. She didn't like him at first, but he was on my mum's case. So he ended up with my mum. And obviously, they then sort of fell out, my dad and my stepdad, as you do. But they're fine now, absolutely fine. The last time I got married, they both walked me down the aisle together. So it's all fine now, but that was then. He was 19, Paul, who's with my, who I look at as my dad. But I have got my biological dad.

• 5:21Speaker 03

  But if I ever have a problem, I would go to Paul.

• 5:25Speaker 02

  You'd go to Paul. So Paula, at that time, was 19. Was your mother older than Paul?

• 5:29Speaker 03

  Yeah, she's 12 years older.

• 5:31Speaker 02

  So 12-year age gap between your mother and?

• 5:35Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 5:36Speaker 02

  Now, also, I didn't realize this, is you watched that relationship form, that infidelity.

• 5:43Speaker 03

  See, this is the thing, what people don't realize, kids actually do take in stuff that you don't realize. If your mum and dad are arguing, although they're still there with you, you haven't got them 100% because they're dealing with that. And kids do pick up on it. Because I do remember all of stuff like that. It's weird, the things that I remember, when there's other things that were probably going on, good things, but I only remember them things.

• 6:09Speaker 02

  Exactly. So when you think about some of those more challenging moments that you remember, what comes to mind when you think about that relationship between your mother and Paul, or even your mother and your biological father?

• 6:22Speaker 03

  Yeah, because I can remember a time when my dad picked me up, and I was in the back of the car. And then it was either Paul or my dad, or I was in the car with the other one, I can't remember. But they were arguing at the window. I don't know what they were saying, but I just remember, ah, that going on. I can't, and I must have been about four or something, because they split up when I was three, I think.

• 6:49Speaker 02

  Did you internalize any of this? And what I mean by that is, oftentimes, many children, when they see their parents break up, or there's an infidelity, they begin to point their finger at themselves sometimes. Did you at all take any blame?

• 7:05Speaker 03

  Do you not believe it or not? No. Because I still saw my dad, and obviously, I was with my mum. But what I do remember when I was younger is if I went to my friends' houses, and they had their mum and dad there, I would always be like, oh, I wonder what it's like to have your own dad and your mum together. I do remember thinking that, like, is that what the family was like? Even though there was nothing wrong with the way I was brought up, I was never, Paul wouldn't treat me any different, me and my brother, to my sister. Because it wasn't lacking that. I suppose when I'd see them cuddle their dad and that. Because I don't, I can't remember me ever cuddling, I've got no memory of me cuddling my real dad.

• 7:46Speaker 02

  Really?

• 7:46Speaker 03

  No memory at all. And then with Paul, I can't even remember any times me cuddling Paul either.

• 7:53Speaker 02

  So you can't remember a cuddle from either of your fathers?

• 7:55Speaker 03

  No.

• 7:57Speaker 02

  Did either of your fathers ever say that they loved you?

• 8:01Speaker 03

  Yeah, they, actually, I can't, they must have done, because I never felt like, oh, they don't love me this. I've never felt that. But I've got no memory of cuddles from them.

• 8:10Speaker 02

  So when you think back to little Katie, at that time, it was Katrina.

• 8:13Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 8:15Speaker 02

  How do you believe she felt not having a hug from her father?

• 8:20Speaker 03

  But for me to remember it still now, I mean, I can't remember my mindset then, but I remember thinking then, when I'd saw my other friends cuddle their dads. So obviously, that was vacant for me. But yeah, I still would see my dad, and there was, like I say, I've got nothing, I've got nothing bad to say. I thought, well, they brought us up really well. Like, I'd see my dad every Saturday. And then as you got older, you get old, and then you don't see him as much, and?

• 8:49Speaker 02

  Yeah. But you know, I find that to be profound, really.

• 8:54Speaker 03

  What do you mean?

• 8:54Speaker 02

  That you never got a hug.

• 8:57Speaker 03

  Yeah, I can't remember.

• 8:58Speaker 02

  You can't remember getting a hug?

• 9:00Speaker 03

  No.

• 9:00Speaker 02

  And did you want one?

• 9:02Speaker 03

  Yeah, this is the thing, I'm such a cuddly, loving person. So I suppose the horses, I would give it to them, and I would get something back from them.

• 9:13Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 9:14Speaker 03

  Like, if I'd call them in the field, I'd be like, star, at the bottom of the field. His ears would pick up, and it'd canter up to me.

• 9:20Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 9:21Speaker 03

  So I think the horses were the ones I would give, and it would give back.

• 9:26Speaker 02

  Yes, yes.

• 9:27Speaker 03

  Like my love.

• 9:28Speaker 02

  And I can see that's probably where this nurturing side of you started to really grow. You know, because we often seek what we don't have.

• 9:38Speaker 03

  Yeah, I see what you mean. It's like when my mum was pregnant with my sister, I was so excited, to the point, even before she was born, and my mum bought the buggy, I'd put the cat in the buggy to push the cat around in it. And couldn't wait for my sister to be born. And when she was born, and my mum would put her down, I would go up and try and wake her up, just as an excuse to pick her up and cuddle her. I was so excited.

• 10:02Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah. I could see it. I could see how that formed for you. So thinking about relationships.

• 10:10Speaker 02

  The relationships that we have as an adult

• 10:12Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 10:13Speaker 02

  often begin when we're a child, right? So when you think about what love and sex and dating started to look like, what were your first experiences with those things?

• 10:27Speaker 03

  Well, when I was seven, I put it in my book, basically, a man did something to me. And I remember all the police being called, they took all our underwear and everything. And he was basically saying to us, if you let me do this to you, I'll go and get you an ice cream and all of this. It was one of them. I can still remember his face now, I can still remember it. And when he was doing what he was doing, these two kids were, it was like in a bush and it was like a cutaway through to the park. And our mums were at the cafe, just at the top, having cups of teas. And we were just gonna go to the park and it was the cut room, it was in the bush there. He got us and these two people must have seen this isn't normal, called the police. So he must, he saw the police and then ran.

• 11:12Speaker 03

  So that was my first, I suppose, traumatic thing with a man.

• 11:17Speaker 02

  And that was seven years old?

• 11:19Speaker 03

  Yeah, and then when I was thirteen, there was a job going for Joe Bloggs Jeans and they were looking for models. So I went along to it and I was one of the models. And there was a photographer who obviously took a liking to me. And then he was saying to my mom, oh, I've got these child model agencies, blah, blah, blah. We should get her into modeling, why don't you come to mine, I'll do a photo shoot and that for her. So we'd go to his house, few times I went, but you'd never let my mum watch. Now, when I look back, he used to say to me,

• 11:56Speaker 03

  I'm gonna make this pineapple milkshake.

• 11:58Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 11:59Speaker 03

  But I didn't want it, I didn't like it, so I actually never drank it. And he'd tell my mum and my nan to just go and walk with the dog and then come back. Now, when we look at the pictures now, I was in like bikini, sunglasses, doing all of this, sticking my tongue out, all of that. He'd always ring my mum and always speak to me, but he seemed so professional. Then we had a knock at the door and it was the child protection. He had been arrested, he had like 12 different names, 12 different accounts. And he was in prison and they said he was so obsessed with me that he had pictures of me in his cell. And they, and this drink, he used to drug girls with it, but I never did take the drink.

• 12:43Speaker 02

  Never took the drink.

• 12:44Speaker 03

  So then like from these incidents, my mum was very then protective because there was another time a man tried to pull me into his car. So I hadn't really had good experiences from them, just from them three things.

• 13:01Speaker 02

  From those three.

• 13:02Speaker 03

  I could see all three faces as clear as day.

• 13:07Speaker 02

  How do you believe that impacted how you entered romantic relationships?

• 13:13Speaker 03

  Well, this is it. When I was at school, there was only like a couple of boys I fancied, but I was petrified to kiss them. But then my first boyfriend, I was 15 and he was 25. And he had like an XR2 and he was always pissed, he'd just come out of prison.

• 13:32Speaker 02

  He's 10 years older than you.

• 13:33Speaker 03

  I know.

• 13:34Speaker 02

  I mean, 15.

• 13:35Speaker 03

  My mum was nuts, but I didn't, I denied it to her. That's when I argued with my mum. Well, I'm going out, he's picking me up. But now I look back, thinking my mum's stopping, she wasn't, she was protecting me.

• 13:47Speaker 02

  She was protecting you, because 15, even at that time, that, you could not consent at 15.

• 13:51Speaker 03

  No, we didn't have sex till my 16th birthday after the East 17 concert. I went and watched East 17 because my mum always said, don't ever lose your virginity, make sure you're at least 16. And the amount of times my mum had to pick me up, where he'd cut all my clothes off when I was naked, in a telephone box. Mom, he's done it again, pick me up.

• 14:14Speaker 02

  Wait, wait, wait, hold on a minute, he would cut your clothes?

• 14:17Speaker 03

  Cut my clothes up, because he didn't, and like if I was in a petrol station or anything and he'd be like, you looking at them men? I'm like, no, no, I'm looking. So I'd sit like that, look forward, like that, just so jealous. Then my mum called child protection, the police. And then I was training to be a nurse, because that's always what I wanted to do, be a registered nurse. But before I did the course, I worked like at these nursing homes, I was like 16. And they had to call the police on him. These are memories that I've got, a big police fan. Him kicking off because he thought I fancied a guy that worked there. Oh my god, it took ages to get out of that relationship. It was dreadful. But I was so sucked into like, oh yeah, he's older with the car.

• 15:03Speaker 03

  And it was near the end of my school years. I hated school. Because when I was at school, I always thought, you know, I'm gonna be famous or something one day. And it's all in my reports that Kate's got this thing, she thinks she's gonna be famous, she's a dreamer, she's this and that, which is weird. Because I always knew I would be something. It's so weird.

• 15:22Speaker 02

  And you thought you'd be famous doing what?

• 15:24Speaker 03

  I always wanted to be a model or pop star.

• 15:26Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 15:27Speaker 03

  But even I was training to be a nurse. It's so weird.

• 15:30Speaker 02

  It's so incredible. You know, all right, there's a million things, places.

• 15:34Speaker 03

  I know, this is my brain for you.

• 15:36Speaker 02

  No, you know what, Kate, your story, even in the research, I thought your story is one of the most incredible stories, like your life. It's one of the most incredible

• 15:46Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 15:47Speaker 02

  experiences I have ever heard.

• 15:49Speaker 03

  Don't, this is what the therapist said late there, because I never had therapy till later on and I'll go on to that. And because if I did, I don't think I would have been in the situations I had. And they said to me, when I was at the priby, you get lots of people who have had like a trauma. It could be big or small to me, it could be a small thing to me when they say it, but massive for them. So you can never judge anyone. But what they said to me there is, they've never known anyone to have so many real life events of trauma happen to one person and still be here telling the story.

• 16:24Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 16:25Speaker 03

  And so now I'm out of the breakdown situation and I've moved on and sorted the head out. And I know how to deal with triggers and this and that. I look back and it, I sort of go,

• 16:38Speaker 03

  because I've dealt with so many traumas and at the time, I know you'll probably go through this. I've never stopped to deal with that trauma. It's like, right, move on, next thing, next thing. Because the industry I'm in is so fast paced. If something happens, right, you've got to move on, move on. So I've never dealt with any of them situations. So it sort of ricocheted to a point when it just all happens at once.

• 17:02Speaker 02

  It all happens.

• 17:03Speaker 03

  And that's what happened.

• 17:04Speaker 02

  And at the same time, if you think of it almost like luggage, in essence, what you're doing is you're collecting it, you're collecting it, you're collecting it in your head.

• 17:12Speaker 03

  Heavy, like you want to cut it off and let it go.

• 17:14Speaker 02

  Right, but, but it's, and it stays, because you said, you could remember the faces. We're at 16, you've gone through at least three sexual assaults.

• 17:22Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 17:23Speaker 02

  You've gone through two physical assaults. Did you feel as if you had any safe spaces at 16?

• 17:33Speaker 03

  I disliked the horses.

• 17:35Speaker 02

  It was just the horses once again?

• 17:36Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 17:37Speaker 02

  That was it?

• 17:38Speaker 03

  Mm-hmm. And though, but my mum and that were always there helping me through all of this. They were so supportive with everything. So like my brother would go to a youth club, it was only across the road. I wasn't allowed to go to anything like that or paper rounds. Because now when I look back at my mum, I can see why, because all of this had happened. Now I'm a mum, I can see why she was so protective. Which is funny, because then as soon as I turned 17, there I am doing page three and they're like, what? Where the hell has this come from?

• 18:11Speaker 02

  Exactly. So how did you go from 16 to model? Because that's, that's really where, that was like the professional transition.

• 18:21Speaker 03

  Yeah, so I was doing this temporary work at these office places to earn some money. And there was a woman who worked there, I can't remember how I met her, but she liked doing photography. And everyone kept saying, oh, you should be a model. And I was like, are you joking? I'm not even good looking. I fell off my brother's skateboard when I was eight and cracked the front of my tooth. So I always had like a cap there. I don't know, I just felt really ugly.

• 18:51Speaker 02

  Interesting.

• 18:52Speaker 03

  So in my lunch break, we went on Brighton Beach. And she just took some pictures of me on Brighton Beach, topless ones, because she said, I'll go to a glamour agency. But first of all, I said, oh no, I don't, I don't want to be naked or anything like that. Because when you think of glamour, not that I don't judge anyone, I just thought top shelf magazines. I thought, no, no, no, I don't want to do that. She says, no, because of your height, you wouldn't get into like Models One or whatever. And I remember when I was

• 19:23Speaker 02

  How tall are you? I know, I know, because I've seen it, but how tall are you?

• 19:27Speaker 03

  I think I'm about 5'5" or something.

• 19:29Speaker 02

  I think you're about 5'5".

• 19:30Speaker 03

  And then my mum did take me to some of these agencies and they were like, no, no, she's too short. But it's only because everyone kept saying, oh, she'll be a model, but I don't know how, because I weren't even good looking. And then I remember sending these photos up to Samantha Bond Agency. She'd come back straight away, said, come and see me. So I remember getting the train to Sloane Square and it was the King's Road. And that's, they had a lot of agencies there. And growing up, you hear that lots of models get spotted and that along there.

• 20:01Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 20:02Speaker 03

  So proudly I'd walk along thinking, oh, am I gonna be spotted? The girls then who were massive, were people like, I don't know if you know them now, Joanne Guest, Emma Noble, Lana Cox, these page three girls. I'm like, oh my god, I'd love to be as famous as them. And so as much as all that had happened with me when I was younger, I was still an exhibitionist in the way, for my dad's 30th, I turned up in all PVC and everyone was like, what? It was like I wanted to show off.

• 20:31Speaker 02

  But you know what I find interesting about that is that, so you wanted to show off, you were an exhibitionist.

• 20:36Speaker 03

  But I didn't, I was frigid though, would never sleep with guys, it was if like, you can look at me, but you can't touch me.

• 20:41Speaker 02

  But, and that

• 20:42Speaker 03

  I don't know where that started either.

• 20:43Speaker 02

  But that I could see, but it's more so the fact that you also didn't feel confident in how you looked. Because you talked about the chip tooth.

• 20:50Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 20:51Speaker 02

  You just said that you didn't think you were attractive.

• 20:53Speaker 03

  But I always thought I'm gonna be famous and be like some sort of star. Because I'd do, I'd do all that with my hair in the mirror and be like, yeah, I'm gonna be a model, I'm gonna be famous.

• 21:03Speaker 02

  Was it, okay.

• 21:03Speaker 03

  I don't know what it was, I can't even tell, but I always knew that I wouldn't do anything normal.

• 21:08Speaker 02

  But let's, let's unpack that a little bit.

• 21:10Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 21:10Speaker 02

  Because I suspect

• 21:11Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 21:12Speaker 02

  it was largely around, you wanted validation.

• 21:16Speaker 03

  Do you know what? That would make sense.

• 21:18Speaker 02

  Right. And I think that a lot of people will say, I want to be a star, because they're not equipped with the words. But really what they're saying is, I just want to be loved.

• 21:26Speaker 03

  Do you know, validation is a key thing in everything that I've had to learn. Because I've never had validation, I didn't know what validation was. And

• 21:37Speaker 03

  I think nowadays people are so lucky because back in them days, there was no such thing really as mental health or

• 21:44Speaker 02

  Right.

• 21:45Speaker 03

  ADHDs or whatever labels you want to do. But now, when you look back at my school reports, you could definitely see how I've got the ADHD, my concentration, this, that, the way I am. And also, she wants to be noticed. She's easily distracted, this, that. So you could see where I wanted to be central for attention then. Like going in the private for me, people can be frowned upon it. They, because people go in there for addiction or trauma or something. They think, oh, you're so ill. Yeah, you are ill or got trauma, but you're going in there to better yourself, to get help, to come out the best. So never frown upon someone who wants help.

• 22:24Speaker 02

  Absolutely. And I think

• 22:25Speaker 03

  But they do.

• 22:26Speaker 02

  But you're a testament to that, right?

• 22:28Speaker 03

  Because look at me.

• 22:29Speaker 02

  We're going to unpack it all, Katie.

• 22:30Speaker 03

  No, I love it. Go on.

• 22:32Speaker 02

  But I want to go back to something that I just researched about you that I don't know if you know about yourself.

• 22:37Speaker 03

  Oh, God, and I love this.

• 22:38Speaker 02

  All right. So if we go back to you, so this is you becoming a model, right?

• 22:42Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 22:43Speaker 02

  But right around that time, a little bit earlier, you said, look, I want to be famous.

• 22:49Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 22:50Speaker 02

  You said, you want to be famous. You want to be famous. Have you heard of YouGov?

• 22:54Speaker 03

  YouGov?

• 22:54Speaker 02

  YouGov. You heard of YouGov? So YouGov is a, like a research institution.

• 22:59Speaker 03

  Right.

• 23:00Speaker 02

  Here in the UK. Uh, and I looked to see how famous Katie Price is.

• 23:06Speaker 03

  Well, this is a tricky one because I had a different fan base being Jordan, and that was just print and newspaper. Now, this era, more people know me as Katie Price. I didn't change my name to Katie Price, by the way. It was the media that decided I was now Katie Price. It was never me. I didn't just say, right, I'm giving up Jordan. I'm now Katie. It was never me.

• 23:29Speaker 02

  Interesting.

• 23:29Speaker 03

  It was always the battle between Jordan and Katie Price. So if I had a night out, it's, oh, Jordan's out tonight. If I was with the mom, oh, Katie Price is with her mom.

• 23:41Speaker 02

  That's interesting. So Jordan was like the bad girl.

• 23:44Speaker 03

  They like say the alter ego, but I am the same person. It was just the name I changed because it can stop you getting other work if you're known as a page three girl.

• 23:54Speaker 02

  So then if we were thinking just Katie Price, what percentage of the UK?

• 24:00Speaker 03

  Maybe 60% because if they don't, then bloody hell, I don't know. Only because every day there's something written about me somewhere.

• 24:09Speaker 02

  You ready for a shock?

• 24:10Speaker 03

  Go on.

• 24:11Speaker 02

  Your popularity is 95%. 95%

• 24:16Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 24:16Speaker 02

  Of the adult UK.

• 24:19Speaker 03

  Yeah, I would have said adult. Yeah.

• 24:22Speaker 02

  Know you.

• 24:23Speaker 03

  Really?

• 24:24Speaker 02

  They know of you.

• 24:25Speaker 03

  Yeah, I was going to say they might not know what I do because I don't even really know what I do these days, but they might have known the name.

• 24:30Speaker 02

  They, they know of you. And what I find to be

• 24:33Speaker 03

  That's quite nuts.

• 24:33Speaker 02

  So, yeah, what I find to be so interesting about this is that that's exactly what you said you wanted at like 11 years old.

• 24:43Speaker 03

  That is true, but how tough it's been to get there.

• 24:46Speaker 02

  Yeah. How do you, how do you feel knowing that?

• 24:50Speaker 03

  See, this is another in question, an interesting thing because literally I was in this industry. It started when I was 17, in the papers the following week, and it's literally been, shh, straight away.

• 25:03Speaker 02

  So a 17

• 25:04Speaker 03

  So I've never had the time to break. It's been

• 25:06Speaker 02

  It's been

• 25:07Speaker 03

  Now you're the front cover of Loaded. Now you're FHM, and now you're here.

• 25:10Speaker 02

  Can we even go back to that though, too?

• 25:12Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 25:12Speaker 02

  And, and talk about the journey because you said, so you got here 17.

• 25:17Speaker 03

  From the moment I signed, I was on page three and then straight away, boom.

• 25:21Speaker 02

  All right, let's talk about page three for a second, too.

• 25:23Speaker 03

  Because I only did it for a year.

• 25:25Speaker 02

  I did not know about page three.

• 25:27Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 25:27Speaker 02

  I was, I was living

• 25:28Speaker 03

  Don't do it anymore.

• 25:28Speaker 02

  Yeah, I was living in, in the States.

• 25:30Speaker 03

  Right.

• 25:30Speaker 02

  So page three was literally, it was the third page.

• 25:34Speaker 03

  Yeah, and you're just topless.

• 25:35Speaker 02

  And you're topless.

• 25:36Speaker 03

  Natural, because then I decided to do my boobs. And then the sun ran a poll asking the nation, should she do her boobs? And it come back like 93% of people say, don't do it. But I still went and did it.

• 25:50Speaker 02

  So that was your first

• 25:51Speaker 03

  Then I was banned from page three.

• 25:53Speaker 02

  Really?

• 25:53Speaker 03

  Yeah, because I did my boobs. I was banned from it.

• 25:58Speaker 03

  I know, you're not mad.

• 26:01Speaker 02

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