Josh Homme w/ Mark Normand &Sam Morril - We Might Be Drunk Podcast

Josh Homme of Queens of the Stone Age joins Mark and Sam for a wide-ranging conversation about surviving cancer, pushing through brutal tours, making music without repeating yourself, and what it takes to become a band nobody wants to follow. Josh also shares stories about Anthony Bourdain, George Carlin, Mel Brooks, Tom Waits, desert life, scorpion attacks, difficult audiences, crowd work, and the complaint line that brought in thousands of calls. Sponsored by: Protect your family with life insurance through Ethoshttps://www.ethos.com/DRUNKShop Avocado Green Mattress and experience the differencehttps://www.avocadogreenmattress.com/DRUNK Subscribe to We Might Be Drunk: https://bit.ly/ SubscribeToWMBDMerch: https://wemightbedrunkpod.com/ Clips Channel: https://bit.ly/WMBDClips Sam Morril: https://punchup.live/sammorril/tickets Mark Normand: https://punchup.live/marknormand/tickets Produced by Gotham Production Studios: https://www.gothamproductionstudios.com@GothamProductionStudios | Producer: https://www.instagram.com/mrmatthewpeters #WeMightBeDrunk #MarkNormand #SamMorril #JoshHomme #QueensOfTheStoneAge #ComedyPodcast #StandUpComedy #BodegaCatWhiskey Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• 0:04Mark Normand?

  I don't know how you feel, if you wanna drink, or you wanna go agua, you're, you're

• 0:07Speaker 01

  I just had a screwdriver in the car. I don't know if that was a little prep.

• 0:12Mark Normand?

  Hey, nothing wrong with that. No judgment here.

• 0:14Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 0:15Mark Normand?

  I might have a-

• 0:16Speaker 01

  What are you having?

• 0:16Mark Normand?

  I'll have, I can join you, we can, we can stay on the vodka train, I could do a midday beer.

• 0:21Speaker 01

  Oh, there's a whole thing.

• 0:22Mark Normand?

  We got a full bar, baby.

• 0:23Speaker 01

  Yeah, I could, I could live like that.

• 0:25Mark Normand?

  No pressure.

• 0:26Speaker 01

  I could shake my own.

• 0:27Mark Normand?

  No!

• 0:27Sam Morril?

  No, no, we got a guy, dude, we're kinda drinking in the mood for it.

• 0:30Speaker 01

  What was that?

• 0:31Mark Normand?

  He's showing you his tattoo, that's what he is.

• 0:33Speaker 01

  It's just rings in. Oh, what's on, oh yeah, love it. Yeah.

• 0:37Mark Normand?

  Hey, what does that mean?

• 0:38Speaker 01

  Yours is bigger than mine.

• 0:40Mark Normand?

  Ah, heard that before.

• 0:42Speaker 01

  Uh, yeah, I'll take a vodka, that would be fantastic.

• 0:46Mark Normand?

  Make it two.

• 0:47Sam Morril?

  Yeah, make it three. Do you go just straight?

• 0:49Speaker 01

  Oh, oh. You know. Uh, no, uh, yeah, wiggle it with something.

• 0:55Mark Normand?

  I might go soda, maybe a vodka soda?

• 0:57Sam Morril?

  Yeah, three vodka sodas, I love it, yeah, perfect.

• 0:59Mark Normand?

  Alright. How are you doing, ma'am? Good. Alright.

• 1:02Speaker 01

  That's Dana.

• 1:03Mark Normand?

  Hey Dana!

• 1:04Speaker 01

  Hey Dana, Sam.

• 1:04Mark Normand?

  You're off camera, don't worry.

• 1:06Sam Morril?

  We're rolling?

• 1:07Mark Normand?

  Oh, we're rolling, jeez, I didn't know that.

• 1:09Sam Morril?

  Well dude, thanks for coming on the pod.

• 1:11Speaker 01

  Oh, thank you for having me. I, I, I'm a big fan.

• 1:14Mark Normand?

  Oh geez, you're the one.

• 1:16Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:16Mark Normand?

  Thank you, wow.

• 1:17Sam Morril?

  Well, the new album is awesome, it's so good.

• 1:20Speaker 01

  Well, we don't, but we don't have to talk about, we could talk about anything.

• 1:23Mark Normand?

  Alright.

• 1:23Speaker 01

  I just thought, you know, yeah, I have, I have a new record, but who cares?

• 1:28Mark Normand?

  Did you lose weight?

• 1:29Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:30Mark Normand?

  You look good.

• 1:30Speaker 01

  No, thank you.

• 1:31Sam Morril?

  How did, what did you do?

• 1:32Speaker 01

  I got cancer.

• 1:34Sam Morril?

  Damn.

• 1:35Mark Normand?

  Wait, really?

• 1:36Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:36Mark Normand?

  Oh geez.

• 1:37Speaker 01

  No, uh, well, I, I got sick and then I, uh, and it just sort of woke me up to a whole bunch of things I'd been not paying attention to in my life and I, um, but that's why I thought I'd come here and drink in the day.

• 1:51Sam Morril?

  That's what doctors recommend after a diagnosis.

• 1:53Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:53Mark Normand?

  Whoa.

• 1:54Speaker 01

  It's vodka.

• 1:54Sam Morril?

  Yeah.

• 1:55Mark Normand?

  Was it colon, anal, liver?

• 1:58Sam Morril?

  It was, it was removed though, right?

• 2:00Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, I was, I was able to get it really early and, um, I, and the, but I had all these complications, there was a, there was probably a doctor mistake that I could have pursued if I was a, I don't know, maybe I could have.

• 2:14Mark Normand?

  Whoa.

• 2:14Speaker 01

  But that led to all kinds of complications and stuff and, but honestly, I think those, those types of things, they're life-changing, oftentimes in a negative way, but if you make it through them, the life, it's life-changing in a really great way.

• 2:30Mark Normand?

  Sure, sure.

• 2:31Speaker 01

  It changed my outlook on, on everything, you know?

• 2:34Mark Normand?

  Whoa.

• 2:35Speaker 01

  I, uh, I really started enjoying things.

• 2:39Mark Normand?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 2:40Sam Morril?

  I gotta get cancer, man.

• 2:41Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:42Mark Normand?

  It'll wake you up.

• 2:43Speaker 01

  Dana actually brought some for both of you. There's a gift bag over there. With radiation pills.

• 2:50Mark Normand?

  Well, yeah, our friend got hit by a bus and he's like, got a new lease on life, he's never been happier, he's, I didn't realize how good my life was, I'm happy.

• 2:59Speaker 01

  I, I, I couldn't agree more, it's just, uh, it was almost more the complications post that, cause they were so long and difficult and, you know, uh, that, that, um, and you also, the people that rallied around me that were my family and friends, it was, you just knew instantly who was on your team.

• 3:20Mark Normand?

  Right.

• 3:20Speaker 01

  You know, and, and it just, uh, yeah, I thought, oh, I, it, it reduced everything that was important to something you count on one hand.

• 3:30Mark Normand?

  Right.

• 3:31Speaker 01

  It's just shit my grandma told me, you know?

• 3:32Mark Normand?

  Sure, sure, what's that old Buddhist thing, uh, uh, what is it?

• 3:36Speaker 01

  Oh god.

• 3:37Mark Normand?

  Wait, hold on. A guy, a healthy man wants two things and a sick man wants one, to be healthy?

• 3:44Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 3:44Mark Normand?

  No, a healthy man wants a million things, I want a new car, I want a pool, I want those, and a sick guy wants one thing.

• 3:49Speaker 01

  Well, you know, you meet, you meet some old lady in the street and she's like, you got your health.

• 3:53Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 3:53Speaker 01

  And you just completely ignore what she said.

• 3:56Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 3:56Speaker 01

  And you think nothing of it and then-

• 3:58Sam Morril?

  One day in New York, he's got the Jewish accent.

• 3:59Mark Normand?

  I know.

• 4:00Speaker 01

  You got your health, yeah, half a day. One vodka, he's got a New York accent.

• 4:07Mark Normand?

  But you didn't sue the doctor, so you're not litigious.

• 4:09Speaker 01

  No, I mean, I, that's not my style, I, I, I'm amazed that things don't fail more when it comes to that.

• 4:15Mark Normand?

  Tell me about it.

• 4:16Speaker 01

  He did leave a Phillips head screwdriver in me, and that's why I'm asking for a screwdriver now.

• 4:20Mark Normand?

  Hey, there we go.

• 4:22Speaker 01

  No, I, but I, I, I don't, I can't be sure, you know, that, but by the same token, I, I'm shocked that more things don't happen when they open you up and-

• 4:33Mark Normand?

  I know.

• 4:33Speaker 01

  You're rooting around.

• 4:34Mark Normand?

  Crazy.

• 4:35Speaker 01

  You know, there is that Chinese style, which is, uh, you don't pay unless they heal you. You know about this?

• 4:41Mark Normand?

  Mm-mm, this is brilliant.

• 4:43Speaker 01

  You don't pay the doctor unless you get-

• 4:44Sam Morril?

  It's like the NFL, you get a signing bonus, like afterwards?

• 4:47Mark Normand?

  Thank you.

• 4:47Sam Morril?

  You gotta play all the games or something?

• 4:48Speaker 01

  Well, but I like, but I, the notion that, you know, you don't pay the doc unless it works, well-

• 4:55Mark Normand?

  That's, that's the way to do it, hey!

• 4:57Speaker 01

  Yeah, to health, I'll see you in health. Go to health.

• 5:02Mark Normand?

  Alright.

• 5:02Speaker 01

  There could be a place like that though, called See You In Health.

• 5:06Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 5:07Speaker 01

  I think that's sort of-

• 5:08Sam Morril?

  Like an urgent care?

• 5:08Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 5:09Mark Normand?

  That's not bad.

• 5:10Speaker 01

  Or just a vitamin store.

• 5:12Sam Morril?

  Hey, I like it.

• 5:13Speaker 01

  That was trying to admit that, you know, health is a complicated journey.

• 5:17Sam Morril?

  Do you, do you know how, I mean, did he attribute the cancer to any part of, I mean, your touring act for, what, 30 years? Did he attribute any, any of that to?

• 5:26Speaker 01

  Well, I, I'd been, I, I was, you know, I'm the son of a contractor and my dad has always said, you know, that you, uh, the rest of everyone only moves at the speed of the boss, don't ask anyone to do something you wouldn't do, and, and I, I always took that really seriously, I've always been really physically hard on myself. And other times when I was, I hate canceling, everyone cancels.

• 5:52Mark Normand?

  Same.

• 5:52Speaker 01

  You know, I'd kind of, um-

• 5:54Sam Morril?

  You'll play a gig when you feel like shit.

• 5:55Speaker 01

  Yeah, I, I, I, uh, as an example, I fractured this metacarpal and got this separation between the two fingers, like a tear between, and so I just taped the pic to my finger. I was in Australia and I was like, I'm not gonna go home, or I got salmonella once and we didn't know what we had.

• 6:15Sam Morril?

  You're glued to the toilet though, right?

• 6:16Mark Normand?

  Really?

• 6:16Sam Morril?

  Oh my god.

• 6:17Mark Normand?

  That's a bad one.

• 6:17Speaker 01

  It was, uh, I, we, we didn't know what we had in our tour manager room in Bergen, uh, um, Norway, and our tour manager got quarantined at the hospital, and he said, they're coming to the hotel, if you still wanna play, get out of the hotel, so we left. The hotel just kind of, you know, in quite a state and, um, they didn't know what he had yet, so we didn't know what we had.

• 6:41Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 6:41Speaker 01

  We, we ate in Germany, um, at an Italian restaurant during some kind of World Cup style match where Italy lost.

• 6:49Mark Normand?

  Uh-oh.

• 6:50Speaker 01

  And the, the staff was watching the television, as soon as they lost, they all turned and looked at us, and I was like, no, I didn't, I'm not, I didn't, you know, and I guess we got served bad flesh.

• 7:03Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 7:03Sam Morril?

  Yeah, they, they phoned it in after the loss, they undercooked it.

• 7:06Speaker 01

  It, it really was.

• 7:07Sam Morril?

  Is it eggs or chicken undercooked, right, is what they say with salmonella?

• 7:10Speaker 01

  Well, I think it was, I think it was rancid meat.

• 7:12Mark Normand?

  Ooh.

• 7:13Speaker 01

  That we got it from.

• 7:14Mark Normand?

  Good band though, rancid meat.

• 7:16Speaker 01

  Yeah, first three albums.

• 7:17Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 7:18Speaker 01

  But by the time we got to Norway, it was the drummer, this guy Joey Castillo, and our tour manager Kevin and myself, who had it, uh, and, and, um, we decided to keep playing because we thought, but I lost about 30 pounds in about seven days.

• 7:37Mark Normand?

  Whoa.

• 7:38Speaker 01

  You know, and, and you know, you're sweating, there was, uh-

• 7:42Sam Morril?

  At least with your, with your health, you'll never need Ozempic or anything, you know?

• 7:45Mark Normand?

  That's true.

• 7:46Speaker 01

  I know that, I know people keep asking me that lately.

• 7:49Sam Morril?

  That salmonella, 30 pounds is crazy.

• 7:52Mark Normand?

  I gotta get my wife on that.

• 7:53Speaker 01

  That, that, you know, like, you're just robbing her, honey, I cooked for us.

• 7:59Mark Normand?

  Wow.

• 7:59Sam Morril?

  That's, that 30 pounds is wild.

• 8:01Speaker 01

  Well, but I, you know, people die from this, they get so dehydrated and all this stuff, and, um, when he got his test results sent back to the States afterwards, I, I mean, the, you know, it was shocking to know that's what it was.

• 8:14Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 8:15Speaker 01

  You know, but, but by the same token, you're all the way in Nor, it's so hard to even cancel, what do you do?

• 8:20Mark Normand?

  I know.

• 8:21Speaker 01

  We're leaving from Bergen, we're gonna go all the, we have to take connecting flights?

• 8:24Mark Normand?

  Right, right.

• 8:25Speaker 01

  I mean, that sounds like connecting shits.

• 8:27Mark Normand?

  No.

• 8:27Speaker 01

  It's just like-

• 8:28Mark Normand?

  We're, we're comedians, we, if we get salmonella, we can go, I got salmonella, and then do the act, can you, do you say it or do you just play through?

• 8:34Speaker 01

  I mean, I can talk about it now, but I felt supremely embarrassed, you know?

• 8:39Sam Morril?

  Why? Rock stars have to be cool.

• 8:40Mark Normand?

  Oh yeah.

• 8:41Sam Morril?

  It's funny if I'm like, I shit myself earlier.

• 8:43Mark Normand?

  Yeah, true.

• 8:44Speaker 01

  He, he, somebody told one of the promoters that, you know, as we're slowly moving from city to city, that we were, that Joey and I were really ill, you know, um, and so I watched this about an hour and a half, we're at, playing festivals and things like that, and I watched this forklift lift a porta potty onto the side of the stage, and I, I go grab the promoter, I was like, you take that thing off the stage right now. Cause you don't want someone watching the show and going, oh, there's a honey bucket in the back of it. It's just, it's just not fucking cool.

• 9:18Mark Normand?

  No.

• 9:19Speaker 01

  You know, to shit yourself dry is not cool.

• 9:23Mark Normand?

  At least you guys had it together, that would've been weird if it was just you had it.

• 9:26Speaker 01

  Yeah, I mean, I feel like adding loneliness to that.

• 9:29Mark Normand?

  Right.

• 9:30Speaker 01

  It's like, really taking the mental-

• 9:32Sam Morril?

  Sick on the road is like, as lonely as it gets.

• 9:34Mark Normand?

  Ah, the worst.

• 9:35Speaker 01

  Yeah, I found myself like, laying, uh, on the bed on one side, and then I was so sweaty that I went to the other side, and then you go to the middle, and then you start laying diagonal, cause you feel like that's the only dry.

• 9:45Mark Normand?

  Yes.

• 9:46Speaker 01

  There's some dry locate, you're sweating so much.

• 9:49Mark Normand?

  It's also funny that Ozzy bit into a bat, he's completely fine.

• 9:52Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 9:53Mark Normand?

  You have a nice Italian meal and you're fucked.

• 9:55Speaker 01

  Immunity.

• 9:56Mark Normand?

  Yeah, I guess so.

• 9:57Speaker 01

  You know, he had that, that, that rock royalty immunity.

• 10:01Mark Normand?

  Right, right.

• 10:01Speaker 01

  You know?

• 10:02Mark Normand?

  The British-

• 10:02Sam Morril?

  Did you find as you get older, the touring is like, you know, you're partying way harder younger, now it's like, alright, I'll do three drinks, is there like a limit where you kinda cut yourself off?

• 10:11Speaker 01

  I, I really only like, I don't drink so much anymore, I'll have a few drinks on stage or, um- But not every night.

• 10:21Mark Normand?

  No, no.

• 10:22Speaker 01

  And I just don't wanna feel like shit, basically. And, and, and the shows mean everything. I mean, it doesn't matter if you're a comedian or a musician. If you, you've left everyone you do care about to go to, I was in Cleveland, to go to Cleveland last night. And so I need that show to go well.

• 10:44Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 10:44Speaker 01

  And I'll do, I'll kinda do anything to make sure that happens. And if it doesn't, I, I really feel terrible.

• 10:54Mark Normand?

  I'm the same way.

• 10:55Speaker 01

  It was like, why did I come here?

• 10:56Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 10:57Speaker 01

  Why did I leave?

• 10:58Mark Normand?

  And they got a babysitter, they parked the car, they bought tickets, and then you're up there like half assing it.

• 11:03Speaker 01

  They're getting jacked, it's eighty-five bucks for parking, it's forty bucks for a beer, it's like, you know.

• 11:08Mark Normand?

  I know.

• 11:08Speaker 01

  You know, you want it to, I mean, you can't pressurize yourself, but I certainly don't, if a song doesn't go well, or if a few, you know, we're opening for the Foo Fighters right now, it's like, and, and if it's, if, if there's some people that are indifferent, I don't, I don't let that like bug me.

• 11:27Mark Normand?

  Sure.

• 11:27Speaker 01

  You know, you kinda have to, you just push through that shit.

• 11:31Mark Normand?

  You don't read comments, do you?

• 11:32Speaker 01

  No.

• 11:33Mark Normand?

  Oh, man, good move.

• 11:35Sam Morril?

  How hard are you on yourself? Like, when, when you have a show that you, isn't up to your standard, do you think the crowd always can feel that? Or do you think sometimes you're in your own head about it?

• 11:43Speaker 01

  Oh, I mean, I, I never get it to where I'm wondering how they think, I just feel so terrible. I mean, I don't, where you guys are at, but if, if I know the show wasn't good for me, I wanna enjoy it too.

• 11:55Mark Normand?

  Yeah, right.

• 11:56Speaker 01

  And, and if it wasn't good for me and someone says, that was amazing, I'm like, why don't you just stab me?

• 12:01Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 12:02Speaker 01

  Why don't you stab me in the chat? Because it just, I don't wanna hear anything in those moments, you know?

• 12:07Mark Normand?

  I'm with you.

• 12:07Speaker 01

  I'm not a perfectionist either, it just, I just.

• 12:10Sam Morril?

  You have, you have a standard you wanna set.

• 12:13Speaker 01

  I wanna be one of the great live bands, I wanna be dependable that way. And, but we also change the set all, every night. And so there needs to be risk too. It can't just be the same, you know?

• 12:24Sam Morril?

  But that keeps you from going on autopilot, I would assume also, right?

• 12:27Speaker 01

  Yeah, I mean, that, that, for me, would turn into a job type job if it's the same all the, and, and I've seen bands that they say the same things and they, um,

• 12:37Speaker 01

  yeah, it's just the same. And, and, uh, we just did a tour, um, that had an orchestra and stuff, and we played the same setlists, and it was very small theaters, and, and I enjoyed that for a while, but we didn't do it for very long. You know, I don't know if I would be able to do that for a whole record.

• 12:57Mark Normand?

  Right. You, you ever have the thing where the crowd loved it, they all had a great time, but you didn't feel like you were right? I have that as a comic where I'm, you'll have a good set and everybody leaves happy, but I was like, I was off.

• 13:09Speaker 01

  But, but so then what, how do you feel, what is that?

• 13:12Mark Normand?

  Oh, it's horrible, it's, it's not horrible, cause you're still killed, but you, you, you wanna be present and you wanna feel good about it too.

• 13:20Speaker 01

  Yeah, but I, yeah, that's when you think, oh, if I would've, they lo, they loved it and I didn't, what would have happened if those two things would have met where I loved it too, how much better would it have been?

• 13:33Mark Normand?

  That's the best.

• 13:33Speaker 01

  Yeah, I mean, there, there is, there is that crazy feeling where a show goes so well, and you get those strange, in the moment, you're getting those strange butterflies.

• 13:45Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 13:46Speaker 01

  Where you, you know, it's kinda like, yeah, like a thirteen-year-old leaving a first date.

• 13:50Mark Normand?

  Right, right.

• 13:51Speaker 01

  Where you're like, holy shit, that happened, I can't, you know?

• 13:53Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 13:54Speaker 01

  You definitely wanna hold on to.

• 13:55Mark Normand?

  Seinfeld equates it to surfing, when you're up on the wave and, you know, it's like you're keeping the ball in the air, everything's going right. You know, and you're, you're all at one, the whole room is connected.

• 14:05Speaker 01

  Well, are either of you guys that sort of, if it's going well, you think, oh, well, the other shoe's gonna drop?

• 14:10Sam Morril?

  Sometimes.

• 14:11Mark Normand?

  Sure, of course.

• 14:12Sam Morril?

  Especially when it's new material, I'm like, where, where am I gonna lose them?

• 14:14Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 14:15Sam Morril?

  Cause I'm, I'm in the building mode right now, I just dumped an hour that I taped, so now I'm like, can, how long can I get away with new shit? But then you're like, there's gonna be a point where I lose them, and that's okay, cause then you just keep adjusting night after night, but.

• 14:27Mark Normand?

  Right.

• 14:27Speaker 01

  Yeah, but, but when you're, as you traverse the countryside, some jokes don't work in Boise, that do work in girls.

• 14:37Sam Morril?

  They usually do.

• 14:38Mark Normand?

  You gotta work them, all over, everywhere.

• 14:40Sam Morril?

  You know, we, we're at the point now where we're going international, so it's like, I want it to work, may, maybe there's one or two, I had like a thing where DraftKings was the punchline or something, and that didn't work in like Oslo.

• 14:50Speaker 01

  Right.

• 14:50Sam Morril?

  But like, it's gonna work everywhere in America, and then you're just like, I'll have one joke that is here, and then everything else is gonna work.

• 14:56Speaker 01

  Well, so, okay, when did you guys, when did you start going international? Just recently or?

• 15:01Mark Normand?

  A few years ago, yeah, we've done, done Australia twice, uh.

• 15:05Speaker 01

  They have, they've got a good sense of it.

• 15:06Mark Normand?

  They've got good.

• 15:06Sam Morril?

  Yeah.

• 15:07Mark Normand?

  I was in Lisbon and you could feel a, a disconnect.

• 15:10Sam Morril?

  Oh, great, I'm going there.

• 15:11Mark Normand?

  Oh.

• 15:11Speaker 01

  I'm going there August twenty-ninth.

• 15:13Mark Normand?

  It, it was good, they were great, but, and the, the rest of the world is so nice, cause they.

• 15:19Speaker 01

  Just.

• 15:20Mark Normand?

  No, you'll be fine.

• 15:21Sam Morril?

  Some audiences don't like, at least for us, I noticed that like Scandinavian audiences, they just, they enjoy it, but they don't laugh as hard.

• 15:28Mark Normand?

  That's true.

• 15:29Sam Morril?

  That's just how they are.

• 15:30Speaker 01

  There's not gonna be a comedy fest in Norway, listen.

• 15:32Mark Normand?

  No, the stoic people.

• 15:33Speaker 01

  There's not gonna be Edinburgh in Norway.

• 15:35Mark Normand?

  Right, right, right.

• 15:36Speaker 01

  That kinda stoicism.

• 15:38Mark Normand?

  Right.

• 15:38Sam Morril?

  Yeah, but that's all right, also, you know, it's like, that's how they receive it, but I do get offstage being like, what the fuck?

• 15:44Speaker 01

  Especially though, when you're in the ESL, the English as a second language.

• 15:49Mark Normand?

  Exactly.

• 15:50Speaker 01

  Because, you know, I like that countries have a, a stereotypical purveying personality type, like the Germans.

• 16:01Speaker 01

  I just did, you know, we were just in Europe and in Germany, and, you know, before I've had a German interviewer say, your new album is terrible.

• 16:09Mark Normand?

  Wow.

• 16:10Speaker 01

  Where, and you're, and you think, all right, well, that's not actually a question.

• 16:13Sam Morril?

  Yeah, worse things have happened here.

• 16:14Speaker 01

  That's just a statement that you're saying. And it's like, so what will you do? And it's like, well, I'm doing, well, I guess I'm doing it now, but I, I don't mind that sort of bluntness, cause not everyone has to like it.

• 16:26Mark Normand?

  Sure, but it's a little harsh.

• 16:28Speaker 01

  Yeah, well.

• 16:28Mark Normand?

  You can't be like, your wife is ugly, you know, like, how far do we go here?

• 16:32Speaker 01

  Well, you know, uh, well, I don't know, I think it's fine to be blunt, I sometimes appreciate that sort of bluntness. The Scandinavians have that sort of bluntness at times, you know?

• 16:42Mark Normand?

  Yeah, true.

• 16:43Speaker 01

  But they learn their English from American telly, so they speak perfect slang, where if you're going to Munich, some of these jokes might not land as easily, you know, it feels.

• 16:54Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 16:55Sam Morril?

  How much do reviews impact an album's release though, do you find, at, at this point?

• 17:01Speaker 01

  You know, I don't know, I, we, I think for, for us, it's a little, I've always wanted to be in a, like a band's band, you know, like, get the respect. I don't wanna, I don't, you know, we just, we were also opening for System of a Down in Europe, and they were playing these eighty thousand seat places, and that's two nights, you know, I just can't comprehend that. But if we were that big, I, I wouldn't wanna play a big place, I'd rather, I'd rather play a smaller place a few nights, and maybe not everyone gets to see you, you know, because I just, I, I don't enjoy that size of a.

• 17:38Mark Normand?

  It's different, there's no intimacy, it's.

• 17:41Speaker 01

  And you know what they're do, like I said, immediately it's eighty bucks to park, and it's, and it's, and it's, you know, it's just, the vibe is a big part of all this, you know?

• 17:50Mark Normand?

  Totally.

• 17:51Sam Morril?

  Especially on this new album, there's a lot of like more low-key songs.

• 17:54Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 17:55Sam Morril?

  So we're good. I think that would play better in a smaller venue.

• 17:57Speaker 01

  Yeah, well, and so we're probably gonna get like, yes, I, I'm, I'm sure that we're gonna get slammed at a, in a certain way for, you're mellow now and all that stuff, and, but you can't.

• 18:11Mark Normand?

  Yeah, fuck them.

• 18:13Speaker 01

  Who cares, it's, what are you supposed to do, it's, I mean, that, that, that critique is why don't you copy yourself? And I, I'm fifty-three, it's like, why don't you just play heavy music like you're, we just, actually, we just opened a complaint line.

• 18:28Mark Normand?

  What?

• 18:29Speaker 01

  I think we're the first band ever, what's your name again, mister? Matt, we've opened a complaint line, I'd like you to call it.

• 18:36Mark Normand?

  Let's call it.

• 18:37Speaker 01

  Oh, we should call.

• 18:38Mark Normand?

  All right.

• 18:39Speaker 01

  We should call, yeah, we, we've opened a complaint line on, and we're, we, we opened it about three, four days ago.

• 18:45Mark Normand?

  Really?

• 18:46Speaker 01

  And we've got six thousand complaints.

• 18:49Mark Normand?

  Are you being serious?

• 18:50Speaker 01

  I'm serious, yeah.

• 18:51Mark Normand?

  This is a great idea.

• 18:52Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 18:53Mark Normand?

  I don't ever wanna hear those though.

• 18:55Speaker 01

  Oh, no, and then we listened to them, and then we reacted to them, and some of them are so good, but a lot of them are like, why can't you just copy your Songs for the Deaf, or you copy this, Like Clockwork, or copy these records, you know?

• 19:08Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 19:09Speaker 01

  But it's not my job.

• 19:10Sam Morril?

  They don't want any evolution in your, in your style.

• 19:13Speaker 01

  Well, just them, most people I don't, I think, you know, I listened, I mean, you listen to all kinds of stuff.

• 19:20Mark Normand?

  Yeah, of course.

• 19:21Speaker 01

  You know, I listen to Dean Martin when I'm making dinner.

• 19:23Mark Normand?

  Right.

• 19:23Speaker 01

  But I don't wanna listen to Slayer when I'm making dinner, you know?

• 19:26Mark Normand?

  Sure.

• 19:26Speaker 01

  I don't wanna listen to Rain and Blood while I'm doing, you know?

• 19:29Mark Normand?

  But what if the Beatles did, did Love Me Do for fifty years, you know what I mean?

• 19:33Speaker 01

  It would suck, I mean, that's what would be on the complaint line.

• 19:36Mark Normand?

  Right, right, exactly.

• 19:37Sam Morril?

  Some artists evolve too much, like Kanye, but you know. Although I did think when he did that, like, when he, when he did that, he did that one album that was, uh, like, about his mother dying, I thought that was like a really cool sound he did, you know?

• 19:50Speaker 01

  Well, also, you're gonna make more records, so if you, if, it's like, what do they say about the weather and why? If you don't like it, just wait five minutes?

• 19:57Mark Normand?

  Right, right.

• 19:58Speaker 01

  It's just like, wait till another record, if it, like, I think there was a great quote, it was like, uh, artists need to fail in order to move forward, you have to try things and fail, and, and, you know, otherwise, what's the point, you know?

• 20:14Mark Normand?

  Yeah, you're expressing yourself, so you're not gonna be the same person for forty years.

• 20:19Speaker 01

  Yeah, I, and, so, I mean, I, we always, I think we have a little time release, sometimes it takes a little bit for fans to, to look back and say, actually, now I get this, or, or they won't, but I, I don't know, I think.

• 20:33Sam Morril?

  How does that come together though, when you're, do you kinda all decide, we kinda wanna try this vibe a little more? Or do you just kinda pitch a song like Easy Street, say, this is like a more chill song?

• 20:42Speaker 01

  I just, you go by what you actually like, and I think at this point now, you know, I want something to be, feel real, and feel honest, and so.

• 20:53Mark Normand?

  This is brilliant, I love this idea.

• 20:54Speaker 01

  Yeah, twenty percent of complaint line.

• 20:56Mark Normand?

  This is brilliant, oh, let's play a few of it.

• 20:58Sam Morril?

  Just some poor Indian guy fielding all these?

• 21:00Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 21:04Speaker 01

  Yeah, but we've responded, oh, you're gonna call it, yeah, call.

• 21:07Speaker 03

  The Stone Age Complaint Hotline, the time is now to set the record straight. Press one to make a complaint, press zero if you have no complaints.

• 21:18Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 21:19Mark Normand?

  Wow.

• 21:19Speaker 01

  Press one.

• 21:20Mark Normand?

  Press one and we'll call him ugly.

• 21:22Speaker 03

  Take your mark, tear him apart, leave your complaint by voicemail, after the tone, hit pound when you finish pitching.

• 21:31Speaker 01

  When you finish bitching. Oh, do you have anything?

• 21:33Mark Normand?

  I liked him before he had cancer.

• 21:38Mark Normand?

  Wow.

• 21:39Sam Morril?

  Press zero.

• 21:40Speaker 01

  That's my best radio.

• 21:42Mark Normand?

  Good.

• 21:42Speaker 03

  Oh, complaint.

• 21:44Speaker 01

  You're really.

• 21:46Mark Normand?

  Wow, you can put some time into this. This is great.

• 21:48Speaker 01

  I mean, that was.

• 21:49Sam Morril?

  What was constructive that you got there? Did you get any that you were like, oh, this is kind of good?

• 21:53Speaker 01

  No, it's just for fun, really. And, and I, you know, I think if you want to make art, you can't listen to anybody. If you, if you have an idea and you tell 50 people, 49 people need to say, please don't do that.

• 22:07Mark Normand?

  Yep, yeah.

• 22:08Speaker 01

  Otherwise, how could it be good if anyone could just have it, you know?

• 22:11Mark Normand?

  Totally.

• 22:11Speaker 01

  And I think you, I mean, you gotta have.

• 22:13Sam Morril?

  That's the weird thing about standup is you do kind of, in some way, crowdsource it. Cause you build an act by touring the country, be like, this works, this works. But you're right. I mean, it's, it's gotta be approved by you. I guess it's gotta go through you.

• 22:23Speaker 01

  But I think the feedback is laughs or not.

• 22:26Mark Normand?

  Totally.

• 22:27Speaker 01

  And, and so I, I, it's not someone filling out a comment card saying, nice shirt asshole, or something. You know what I mean? Or, or, and, and I think there's a luxury and it's not like, why can't you keep telling those nine 11 jokes? You know, you're, you're, don't grow.

• 22:42Mark Normand?

  Right.

• 22:43Speaker 01

  We, we got some that were, there was a whole grip of them that were very tongue in cheek that, that said, stop, stop evolving, stop growing, stop trying to change and stop trying to move forward. You know?

• 22:57Mark Normand?

  That's great.

• 22:57Speaker 01

  Which obviously is, you know, and, and largely they've been positive masked as something, you know, you get, we got one that was amazing. That was a, every time I listen to you, I blow a load in my pants, but I love to listen to you and I need pants. And then the guy called back and was like, he kept calling back. So it'd be another one and it said, send more pants. And so, you know, we're gonna get him an Old Navy gift card.

• 23:20Mark Normand?

  But I think it was, maybe I'll give this a go. I think it was Noel Gallagher. Is that his name? The Oasis guy? He said, the audience doesn't know what they want. You gotta tell them what they want.

• 23:30Sam Morril?

  Yeah, cause he compared it to fashion. He goes, you don't, you say, they, you just give them what they, they, they don't know what they want yet. You just give them this and they, they'll want that.

• 23:38Speaker 01

  A hundred percent. Or, or they don't respond at all and you're playing in your bedroom again. I, I do, I do think they call it, they call it a following because you follow us. We don't follow you. That's, that's a circle. That's how toilets are made. And so I, I think you have to, you know, I, I mean, I guess the, the harsh way would say, I just don't give a fuck. But the gentle way would be, you know, you're just trying to do your thing and I, I'm sorry, I can't pay attention. I can't canvas the area.

• 24:05Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 24:06Speaker 01

  You know, but I, I think that's okay.

• 24:08Mark Normand?

  I also would say that committee is usually bad. Anything by committee, especially with art. Like, look at Larry David. He writes the show. It's, Kirby enthusiasm is great. If he had eight guys in a boardroom going, ah, she's a little mean, she's yelling a lot, he's fat, the black guy's a little stereotypical, you know, they would, it would ruin it.

• 24:25Speaker 01

  Well, you open yourself up to your, to like, your sponsors having an opinion too. People that have some kind of investment in you.

• 24:33Mark Normand?

  No, thank you.

• 24:33Speaker 01

  They really, we, we make records and no one gets to hear them until they're completely finished. Not our managers, not the label, nobody.

• 24:40Mark Normand?

  Nice.

• 24:41Speaker 01

  Because I, I don't think you should, when you're playing something half finished, what are the, what are the chances? You have to say, uh, it's gonna be kind of like this, but bigger and blue.

• 24:52Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 24:53Speaker 01

  And you shouldn't have to use your imagination to make it good.

• 24:56Mark Normand?

  Sure.

• 24:57Speaker 01

  You know, you want to play the finished thing.

• 24:59Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 25:00Speaker 01

  And, uh, but I, I also think, you know, it's fine that some things aren't for everybody.

• 25:06Mark Normand?

  Yeah, of course.

• 25:07Speaker 01

  You know, I don't like raw onions. I've tried and tried, but I just don't.

• 25:11Mark Normand?

  But they're still gonna grow.

• 25:12Speaker 01

  Yeah, and it's, it's gonna hap, it's gonna happen.

• 25:14Mark Normand?

  Right.

• 25:15Speaker 01

  And, uh, and so.

• 25:16Sam Morril?

  You should try the raw onion complaint line. It's pretty good.

• 25:18Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 25:19Sam Morril?

  Got a big one. But no, there's also that fear when you keep growing as, you know, an entertainer that, you know, especially musically, this is something we don't, this is not our area, but you can do a sound that just is hip right now. And like, oh, that's a sound people like, like I, I hear auto-tune sometimes and I'm like, that guy's voice was unique. Why is he doing auto-tune? You know?

• 25:39Mark Normand?

  I agree.

• 25:40Sam Morril?

  The voices.

• 25:40Speaker 01

  To fit in especially, you know?

• 25:42Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 25:43Speaker 01

  Or people that do what I call buffet, where it's like, there's a rap verse and there's a singing verse. And then, you know, they use like, uh, you know.

• 25:53Sam Morril?

  Like one of these will stick?

• 25:54Speaker 01

  Like, yeah, all in one song where you feel like you're at hometown buffet where you're just like peanut butter, jelly, horseradish.

• 25:59Mark Normand?

  Right.

• 26:00Speaker 01

  You know, and, and I just, I think that kind of pandering is, that's what I'm not.

• 26:04Mark Normand?

  You hear that Lincoln Park?

• 26:08Mark Normand?

  Fine band, good band. Just joking, Lincoln. But yeah, I know what you mean. They got a rapper in there. There's a rock in there. There's a reggae guy in there.

• 26:17Speaker 01

  I mean, kind of desperate always looks that way. And I just think, you know, you gotta kind of.

• 26:21Mark Normand?

  Yeah, that'd be like.

• 26:22Speaker 01

  March to the beat of your own drummer here.

• 26:24Mark Normand?

  Be like a comedian going like, I like, uh, sour cream, but actually.

• 26:30Speaker 01

  Well, if you do.

• 26:31Mark Normand?

  Pretty bad. Yeah. What do you guys think? Yeah. You gotta have a point of view and stick to it.

• 26:35Speaker 01

  Yeah, and I, I, I think, uh, yeah. What about that thing that happened to Mencia? I just saw that thing.

• 26:42Sam Morril?

  The tax thing?

• 26:42Mark Normand?

  Tax fraud, yeah.

• 26:44Speaker 01

  Talk about getting taxed for fucking up, you know?

• 26:46Mark Normand?

  And for stealing. Yeah, crazy. That's his thing. Yeah.

• 26:51Speaker 01

  Totally true. Oh my God.

• 26:52Mark Normand?

  Crazy, crazy.

• 26:53Speaker 01

  Comes back around again.

• 26:54Mark Normand?

  I know.

• 26:55Sam Morril?

  You're in, you know a lot of comics. You did it Portlandia, right?

• 26:59Speaker 01

  Yeah, I mean, I'm Fred and Carrie for years. I was a, I was a disappointing gay with Sworston.

• 27:07Sam Morril?

  Love Sworston.

• 27:08Speaker 01

  Yeah, I, I mean, I've, I've said this before, but everything changed for me when I was nine and I, I, uh, we went, my folks and I and my grandparents, we never swore in front, I mean, at nine, why would I? But we never swore in front of my folks or my grandparents. And, uh, we went to the desert inn and, you know, my dad was like, George Carlin's funny, isn't he? He's funny? And, you know, sort of asking me and I was, you know, I'm nine, so I maybe should ask someone else. It was when you had to get it, you know, I got a rental jacket. You had to wear a jacket. And it was like a big yellow sort of sportscaster looking coat and I, I felt amazing and, you know, sat there and watched, um, I think it was Judy Tanuda.

• 27:52Mark Normand?

  Wow.

• 27:54Speaker 01

  Or no, sorry, Fred Travellina.

• 27:55Mark Normand?

  Okay.

• 27:56Speaker 01

  Opened up and, uh, and saw Carlin and.

• 28:00Mark Normand?

  Whoa.

• 28:00Sam Morril?

  At nine?

• 28:01Speaker 01

  At nine.

• 28:01Mark Normand?

  Whoa.

• 28:02Speaker 01

  And it, and it blew my mind. It, I, you know, his fascination with language, that became my fascination with language, you know? The English language is great because it just takes words from what other language and there's all the entendre and double meaning and all this stuff. And, um, and it really changed my life and it really, really shocked my grandparents.

• 28:28Mark Normand?

  Oh, yeah, yeah.

• 28:29Speaker 01

  You know, ending with the seven words.

• 28:31Sam Morril?

  Wow.

• 28:33Speaker 01

  And then I also saw, I also saw Rodney about a year later. About a year later, going back to Vegas with my folks and.

• 28:41Mark Normand?

  Come on.

• 28:42Speaker 01

  And he got booed off stage.

• 28:43Mark Normand?

  What?

• 28:44Speaker 01

  And, and it was Judy Tanuda that opened for him.

• 28:46Sam Morril?

  Why do you get?

• 28:48Speaker 01

  He was using the same stale material. He really hadn't pushed. He was copying himself. He was not growing. He did not.

• 28:55Sam Morril?

  It's not his fault he didn't get any respect.

• 28:58Speaker 01

  He should have had a hotline. He could have got some feedback. And, and.

• 29:01Sam Morril?

  I'll tell you, leave a message and it better be nice, you cocksuckers.

• 29:05Speaker 01

  I mean, it would have been amazing to leave him a, you know.

• 29:08Mark Normand?

  Oh, my God.

• 29:09Speaker 01

  But, but I didn't know you could get booed and that that was a real thing. I was just too young. I didn't know that if it doesn't work.

• 29:17Sam Morril?

  He was just, how long was he bombing for before he got booed?

• 29:20Speaker 01

  Uh, I mean, he was, he was, it, it, after the first five minutes, it was all men's downhill from there, you know?

• 29:26Mark Normand?

  Oh, he's probably fucked up too. Cause in those later years, he really got after it.

• 29:30Speaker 01

  Yeah. I mean, I'm 53, so I was about 10 or 11.

• 29:33Mark Normand?

  Wow.

• 29:34Speaker 01

  And, and, um, and he had a resurgence post that. I think like old school and all that, or no.

• 29:42Mark Normand?

  Back to school?

• 29:42Speaker 01

  Back to school.

• 29:43Sam Morril?

  Great movie.

• 29:43Speaker 01

  Was after that.

• 29:44Mark Normand?

  Got it.

• 29:45Speaker 01

  I think so. And so he had, he got it going back on, you know, bossa nova after that.

• 29:51Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 29:52Speaker 01

  But I just didn't know that if it, if it didn't go well, that they could sort of collectively say, you're out of here.

• 30:00Mark Normand?

  Yeah, that's crazy.

• 30:01Speaker 01

  And, um.

• 30:02Mark Normand?

  Well, it's funny you bring up Carlin because he's the most reinventing guy in comedy. He was the hippie dippy weatherman. He wore a suit for a while, then he became the angry guy, the social commentary guy.

• 30:12Sam Morril?

  Identity crisis, kind of.

• 30:13Mark Normand?

  Completely.

• 30:14Speaker 01

  Yeah, but, but a great mutual attacker.

• 30:16Mark Normand?

  Completely. Yeah, he was great.

• 30:17Speaker 01

  I, I mean, I think both of you guys are great at this mutual attack that, you know, if you're not into group think, then that means either side will make glaring mistakes.

• 30:28Mark Normand?

  Of course.

• 30:29Speaker 01

  And everybody should come get some.

• 30:31Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 30:31Speaker 01

  You know what I mean? And if you, and, and it's, it's so much, I, I think too philosophically, the fact that the darkest and most difficult things should be made fun of as a way to get people to sit down and talk with you about them.

• 30:44Mark Normand?

  Right, right. I, I always say it's weird when people get offended by certain jokes. I'm like, oh, I'm using that to cope. You know, they're like, how could you joke about that? It's horrible. I'm like, that's why I'm joking about it. So I can feel better.

• 30:54Speaker 01

  Well, what's left is to feel terrible about it.

• 30:56Mark Normand?

  Yeah, exactly.

• 30:57Speaker 01

  I mean, there, there's nothing left if you can't giggle on the robo to hell.

• 31:02Sam Morril?

  Yeah, Stan, Stanhope had a great line about this where someone's like, how dare you make fun of that? And he goes, how dare I make fun? I'm making it fun.

• 31:11Speaker 01

  Yeah, I make fun where there is none. What are you talking about?

• 31:13Mark Normand?

  Yeah, Chad Daniels has one of my favorite joke or lines. He does a joke.

• 31:17Speaker 01

  I like him too. He's great.

• 31:18Mark Normand?

  He's great. He does a great dark joke and half the crowd goes, oh, and half the crowd dies laughing. And he goes, man, it's gotta suck to be you guys. Because your life is inherently worse. They hear that and get joy. You hear that and are horrified. So you have a shitty life.

• 31:33Speaker 01

  Well, I also think there's something too, like, I always have said, if 20% of your audience doesn't hate you, you suck, right? Because it means you're not growing, right? You're not pushing. And, um.

• 31:43Sam Morril?

  And you're also probably getting a new audience when you put out a new thing too, because you're tapping into a different part of you, you know?

• 31:49Speaker 01

  But just like friends, you know, you, you know someone for a while and then you're kind of paralleling your lives. And then as the years go on, they peel off on a, going, heading a different direction than you are. And it's okay. You don't say, if we've grown apart, fuck you.

• 32:04Mark Normand?

  Right.

• 32:05Speaker 01

  Yeah, they might be back.

• 32:06Sam Morril?

  Life is, life is long.

• 32:07Speaker 01

  Yeah. And so, and so you agree that, that these people that are traveling with you at the time will go in and out and come back perhaps, you know?

• 32:17Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 32:17Speaker 01

  And I also think nothing mobilizes the 80% of people that really love what you're doing like the 20%.

• 32:25Mark Normand?

  That hate you. Yeah.

• 32:26Speaker 01

  You know, gives them something to rally around and warm their hands around, you know? It's like, um,

• 32:32Sam Morril?

  same with movies. If the director keeps making the same thing, I'm bored. But like, even, there are directors who are like, I don't love all their work, but I respect all their work. And that's almost like cooler. Cause I'm like, oh, I didn't, that didn't resonate with me, but it was a fucking awesome swing.

• 32:44Speaker 01

  Speaking of that, did you see The Odyssey yet?

• 32:46Mark Normand?

  Loved it.

• 32:46Sam Morril?

  We liked it a lot.

• 32:47Speaker 01

  I, I felt strange about, I, I, I liked it. I'm not sure if I loved it. I want movies to be like that in scale.

• 32:58Mark Normand?

  And feel something after you can talk about it, debate about it.

• 33:00Speaker 01

  Yeah, and even when they were talking about the, you know, what is it, the people of the sea? That's a, because that's a real thing. There was, there was a real thing where the crux of knowledge and all that was, you know, people were being attacked by the people from the sea. So there was an Egyptian pharaoh that, that took those people from the sea and then put him, put them in his army.

• 33:22Mark Normand?

  Is that like the enemy? Is that like strangers?

• 33:25Speaker 01

  Yeah, they were, they were, they were.

• 33:27Sam Morril?

  Now they call it immigrants.

• 33:28Mark Normand?

  Yeah, I gotcha.

• 33:29Speaker 01

  They were a crew of pirates.

• 33:31Mark Normand?

  Oh.

• 33:32Speaker 01

  Destroying all these ports that had vast knowledge and really sacking.

• 33:35Sam Morril?

  That's why I'm so terrified when they show up, right? They're like, you're not people from the sea.

• 33:38Speaker 01

  Yeah, are you?

• 33:39Mark Normand?

  They're from Morocco.

• 33:40Sam Morril?

  I heard they eat cats.

• 33:43Speaker 01

  They're eating the cats.

• 33:46Sam Morril?

  That was good.

• 33:47Speaker 01

  That was a good film. Yeah, thank you, yeah.

• 33:49Mark Normand?

  Yeah, that was a fun movie.

• 33:51Speaker 01

  Yeah, I, I, there were stuff I really loved about it. There were just some, I didn't love Leguizamo.

• 33:56Sam Morril?

  Really?

• 33:57Mark Normand?

  I was taken out a little by him too. Like, this is Superman, or sorry, Super Mario.

• 34:01Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 34:02Mark Normand?

  It took me out a little for a second.

• 34:05Speaker 01

  He was Luigi.

• 34:07Mark Normand?

  Oh, sorry, sorry.

• 34:08Sam Morril?

  Hoskins was Super Mario.

• 34:09Mark Normand?

  You're right, you're right.

• 34:10Sam Morril?

  Bob fucking Hoskins.

• 34:11Speaker 01

  He was Super Mario. You know, I missed that film, guys, I'm sorry. I didn't go to your movie night.

• 34:15Sam Morril?

  He took it because his daughter, or his granddaughter, someone in his family was like, you got it, I love this video game. And he was like, yeah, whatever.

• 34:22Speaker 01

  It's amazing the things you'll do to score points for your kids.

• 34:24Mark Normand?

  Sure, totally.

• 34:25Speaker 01

  I, look at him, holy shit.

• 34:27Mark Normand?

  And there's Hoskins. Look how young Leguizamo was.

• 34:30Speaker 01

  I don't know if he's really reading Luigi.

• 34:33Mark Normand?

  More Hispanic than Italian.

• 34:35Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah.

• 34:36Sam Morril?

  He's like Luigi.

• 34:37Mark Normand?

  And Hoskins is British.

• 34:38Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 34:39Mark Normand?

  Yeah, that is.

• 34:40Sam Morril?

  Dude, what's the Hoskins one with the animation that's unbelievable?

• 34:43Mark Normand?

  Roger Rabbit.

• 34:43Sam Morril?

  Oh my god, that's an unbelievable movie.

• 34:45Speaker 01

  Yeah, that was a, that was a good movie.

• 34:47Sam Morril?

  Zemeckis is great.

• 34:48Mark Normand?

  Yeah, always great.

• 34:50Speaker 01

  Did he do Kentucky Fried Movie too? Do you know this movie?

• 34:52Mark Normand?

  I love that movie.

• 34:53Sam Morril?

  I've never, I've heard of it.

• 34:54Mark Normand?

  Catholic high school girls in trouble. Yeah.

• 34:58Speaker 01

  You've never heard of that movie?

• 34:59Sam Morril?

  I've heard of it, I've never seen it.

• 35:00Speaker 01

  It's, it's kind of a compilation of skits.

• 35:03Mark Normand?

  Mm-hmm. What was Landis?

• 35:05Speaker 01

  But it was, it was done, Landis, but I think Zemeckis had something to do with it too, didn't he? No, Zucker.

• 35:09Mark Normand?

  Oh Zucker, different Z.

• 35:11Speaker 01

  Yeah, of, of airplane and top secret fame.

• 35:15Mark Normand?

  Hell yeah.

• 35:16Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 35:17Sam Morril?

  Two of the, two of the classics, man.

• 35:18Speaker 01

  Top secret holds up amazingly.

• 35:20Sam Morril?

  Val Kilmer in comedies is like unreal.

• 35:23Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 35:24Sam Morril?

  Unreal.

• 35:24Speaker 01

  And also, I, I, I love Val, and especially in those early things where he, I don't know, I suppose it's a thing that actors do, they, it's like, can you ride a horse? And it's like, no, I can't. Yes, I can ride a horse.

• 35:36Mark Normand?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 35:36Speaker 01

  But you can't. And they were saying, can you sing? And he says, yes, of course, yeah, I can sing. But he'd never, he'd never sang a note in his life.

• 35:45Mark Normand?

  Whoa.

• 35:46Speaker 01

  But he slays in that movie.

• 35:47Mark Normand?

  Another thing about The Odyssey.

• 35:49Speaker 01

  And he's so cute in that movie.

• 35:50Mark Normand?

  He's a handsome devil.

• 35:51Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 35:52Sam Morril?

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• 36:53Mark Normand?

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• 37:24Sam Morril?

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• 37:27Mark Normand?

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• 38:09Mark Normand?

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• 38:27Speaker 01

  It went on a little long.

• 38:27Sam Morril?

  It's not really possible, is it?

• 38:29Mark Normand?

  Yeah, I was like, come on, you're, you're the old man.

• 38:33Speaker 01

  Well, and then.

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• 38:51Mark Normand?

  Oh yeah.

• 38:52Sam Morril?

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• 38:55Mark Normand?

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• 38:56Sam Morril?

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• 38:59Mark Normand?

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• 39:26Mark Normand?

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• 39:27Sam Morril?

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• 39:29Mark Normand?

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• 39:30Sam Morril?

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• 39:36Mark Normand?

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• 39:58Mark Normand?

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• 40:27Speaker 01

  And then he was supremely injured. Spoiler alert.

• 40:30Mark Normand?

  Yes, yes.

• 40:31Speaker 01

  Supremely. And he had shit like flopping off of him.

• 40:34Mark Normand?

  Arrows.

• 40:35Speaker 01

  Yeah, and even a spear strangely attached there.

• 40:38Sam Morril?

  I got a muscle contusion the other day. I couldn't walk for like five weeks.

• 40:41Mark Normand?

  Exactly.

• 40:42Sam Morril?

  He got like impaled. And he's just like, yeah, I'll go, I'll go in exile now.

• 40:44Speaker 01

  At least he got your health.

• 40:45Mark Normand?

  Right, right.

• 40:47Speaker 01

  But, but then she says, don't, you're gonna die. And he's like, no, no, I'm not gonna die. And then it shows him on the fucking boat.

• 40:53Sam Morril?

  No, I got the gods.

• 40:54Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 40:54Sam Morril?

  The gods got me.

• 40:55Mark Normand?

  Zeus, yeah.

• 40:57Speaker 01

  Uh, yeah.

• 40:58Mark Normand?

  Yeah, yeah. And also the sun went upstairs to fight the other guy. I'm like, help your dad.

• 41:02Speaker 01

  Yeah, and he's having trouble with one guy.

• 41:04Mark Normand?

  One guy.

• 41:04Speaker 01

  Oh, he was supposed to fucking man the throne?

• 41:06Sam Morril?

  But, exactly.

• 41:07Speaker 01

  He says to him, don't help me because you'll be exiled. And it's like, I don't know if I could watch my old man just getting, just getting the shit kicked out of him.

• 41:17Sam Morril?

  It's also weird that Tom Holland's playing.

• 41:18Speaker 01

  Well, I don't want to be exiled when this is over.

• 41:21Mark Normand?

  Yeah, and you're gonna win, and you're gonna be king or whatever.

• 41:24Sam Morril?

  I don't want him to kick me out of the country club.

• 41:25Mark Normand?

  Right.

• 41:25Sam Morril?

  I don't know how long that guy's staying king too. He just didn't, it's so weird to see Tom Holland play, he's like, he's Spider-Man and he's this giant pussy and it comes out in the same weekend.

• 41:35Speaker 01

  What a big weekend for him though, my god.

• 41:37Mark Normand?

  And his girl.

• 41:38Sam Morril?

  How about, how about Robert Pattinson, man? That guy is.

• 41:41Mark Normand?

  He's a great actor.

• 41:41Speaker 01

  Fucking great.

• 41:42Sam Morril?

  He's, he's like the guy now. We feel like he's, that new Chris Hansen movie looks awesome.

• 41:46Speaker 01

  Consistently good.

• 41:47Mark Normand?

  Oh yeah.

• 41:47Speaker 01

  Which, what's that one?

• 41:48Sam Morril?

  He's playing Chris Hansen from The Catcher in the Predator. It looks fucking awesome.

• 41:52Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 41:53Sam Morril?

  What?

• 41:54Mark Normand?

  There it is, prime time. The, the trailer's got like 10, 20 million views or something already.

• 41:59Speaker 01

  Yeah, well, you know, actually, that, what a perfectly timed movie.

• 42:04Mark Normand?

  Yeah, good point.

• 42:06Speaker 01

  And, and also Poland is killing it. Did you hear what Poland's doing?

• 42:10Mark Normand?

  No.

• 42:10Sam Morril?

  What?

• 42:11Speaker 01

  They're like, we don't give a fuck if you're gonna bury the Epstein files. There might have been Polish women. We're launching a full investigation. They've got all the, they've got all the files.

• 42:20Sam Morril?

  Damn.

• 42:21Speaker 01

  And if he fucked Polish women, then he's really a monster. I mean, that is.

• 42:24Mark Normand?

  No, Polish women are hot.

• 42:26Speaker 01

  I'm kidding, yeah.

• 42:26Mark Normand?

  Oh, okay.

• 42:27Speaker 01

  Oh, you were joking?

• 42:28Sam Morril?

  Yeah.

• 42:30Mark Normand?

  Sorry.

• 42:31Speaker 01

  No, Polish women are hot.

• 42:31Mark Normand?

  They're very attractive. I mean, Neptune's Island, come on.

• 42:34Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 42:36Mark Normand?

  There's no slouches out there.

• 42:37Speaker 01

  It's not gonna fuck itself.

• 42:38Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 42:39Speaker 01

  No, I think that it's amazing that they're going in. There's a, I think, I think maybe even France is doing something, a little bit like this where they don't care what, what we're doing.

• 42:49Sam Morril?

  Really?

• 42:50Speaker 01

  Because they need to, they, they definitely need to get.

• 42:52Sam Morril?

  Well, you say England, I mean, England took charge with Prince Andrew, right?

• 42:55Mark Normand?

  That's true.

• 42:55Speaker 01

  I know, but they, they, it was, it was about leaking spy stuff.

• 42:59Mark Normand?

  Mmm.

• 43:00Speaker 01

  And, and then, then they were like, is everyone good? Is everyone good? Did we do good?

• 43:04Mark Normand?

  There's more than that that was leaking.

• 43:05Speaker 01

  They need to go in completely and get all these motherfuckers. All of them.

• 43:09Mark Normand?

  Well, it is weird. We have a, literally have a list. And then Bill Clinton's like, how y'all doing? You know, he's just out there, hanging out.

• 43:15Speaker 01

  What do you think Stephen Hawking's did? I mean, obviously he blew into something, but I don't know.

• 43:21Sam Morril?

  Apparently the island was wheelchair accessible. I don't know, man.

• 43:23Mark Normand?

  Yeah, exactly.

• 43:24Speaker 01

  Well, that's good.

• 43:25Sam Morril?

  That's nice.

• 43:26Speaker 01

  We're gonna get with the positives.

• 43:27Mark Normand?

  Yeah, but this guy, he cheated on his wife.

• 43:29Speaker 01

  As long as it's compliant, let's just let the rest settle.

• 43:32Mark Normand?

  He's got, he loves the Giants. He's got a crippling addiction. Alright.

• 43:38Speaker 01

  Oh, I hope they fucking get them all, those sons of bitches.

• 43:40Mark Normand?

  He can't drive, but he loves trafficking. Alright, alright.

• 43:43Speaker 01

  We did all those jokes on that show.

• 43:45Sam Morril?

  I'm almost there. I'm stuck in trafficking right now.

• 43:49Mark Normand?

  Don't forget to work the balls. Okay.

• 43:52Sam Morril?

  If they're there.

• 43:55Mark Normand?

  Yeah, did the girls sit on the lap? Did they take a ride? You gotta wonder how that went.

• 43:58Speaker 01

  You can really complain that you got assaulted by Epstein, by a hawk.

• 44:02Mark Normand?

  Hawking, yeah.

• 44:03Speaker 01

  That man assaulted me. Yeah, him? Yeah, like folded laundry?

• 44:06Sam Morril?

  He goes full Rodney Dangerfield, like, easy on the keyboards, dude.

• 44:11Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 44:11Sam Morril?

  I'll tell you, no, with Epstein's island, I couldn't get a massage, I'll tell you. No respect.

• 44:15Speaker 01

  You just made me caps lock.

• 44:19Sam Morril?

  Oh, Jesus fucking Christ, look at that.

• 44:21Mark Normand?

  Oh, wow. Who had to put him on the beach chair? That's the thing. It's a real boner killer, watching that guy waddle around.

• 44:28Speaker 01

  And he's having a Bloody Mary there?

• 44:30Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 44:31Speaker 01

  Yeah, no pun intended, my god.

• 44:33Mark Normand?

  And how's the dirty talk with the keyboard? Don't forget. I got needs, special needs.

• 44:37Speaker 01

  Especially if it autocorrects it. Put it in the parking lot, you know, something completely wrong. That's not what I said.

• 44:45Sam Morril?

  Didn't Trump, wasn't Trump's whole thing is like, I'm gonna release the files?

• 44:48Speaker 01

  Go back one. The jacuzzi, what is that? The jacuzzi?

• 44:51Mark Normand?

  Whoa. They got flippers on them.

• 44:54Speaker 01

  That looks like a punishment.

• 44:56Mark Normand?

  Yeah, it does.

• 44:58Speaker 01

  You'll come out when you've thought about what you've done.

• 45:01Mark Normand?

  Right.

• 45:01Sam Morril?

  It looks like a scene from The Deer Hunter.

• 45:03Speaker 01

  Fucking, damn dude. Gotta get these motherfuckers.

• 45:06Mark Normand?

  Flippers in a hot tub. This is crazy.

• 45:10Mark Normand?

  That looks like that billionaire submarine. Remember that thing?

• 45:15Speaker 01

  Oh god, the Titanic thing?

• 45:17Mark Normand?

  Is that what it's called?

• 45:18Speaker 01

  It was the Titanic thing. They were looking.

• 45:21Mark Normand?

  Is that what it's called?

• 45:21Speaker 01

  The Titanic remains, yeah.

• 45:23Sam Morril?

  Yeah, the tin can.

• 45:25Mark Normand?

  Is it Titanic? That's too on the nose.

• 45:27Speaker 01

  No, no, that's what they were viewing the Titanic.

• 45:31Mark Normand?

  Oh.

• 45:32Speaker 01

  Well, they never fully saw it, but they, until they got next to it on the floor on the seater.

• 45:36Mark Normand?

  Got it, okay.

• 45:37Speaker 01

  Yeah, they gave him like an Xbox controller to man the thing. Maybe your first sign, this isn't a good idea.

• 45:42Mark Normand?

  That was crazy too, when they died, everybody's like, oh, they were billionaires? Fuck them. Like, what?

• 45:46Speaker 01

  Had they used a Nintendo controller, this might have turned out different. Know your gaming.

• 45:53Mark Normand?

  Yeah, wow. I think there's a movie coming out about that.

• 45:57Speaker 01

  Yeah, Robert Pattinson stars this. He's the submersible, and you gotta see him. He's incredible.

• 46:02Sam Morril?

  You gotta see it in 4D. You feel like you're getting waterboarded. It's great.

• 46:04Mark Normand?

  Oh, awesome.

• 46:05Speaker 01

  Have you ever seen a movie in 4D?

• 46:07Sam Morril?

  I haven't done it yet.

• 46:08Speaker 01

  I saw Wonka with my littlest boy, and I didn't realize to the extent that they jiggle you. You're being, you're being jiggled, you know, and wiggled, and then when they were talking about like fragrances on screen, something went and I was like, ow, ow.

• 46:26Mark Normand?

  Whoa.

• 46:27Speaker 01

  And they sprayed a fragrance in my goddamn eyes.

• 46:30Mark Normand?

  Holy shit, that guy didn't see Brokeback.

• 46:34Mark Normand?

  Holy shit. Your eyes will be ruined.

• 46:36Speaker 01

  The seats were ribbed for my pleasure.

• 46:39Speaker 01

  Yeah, but it's, it's, it's, it's a lot like in Kentucky Fried Movie when they do the movie and feel around.

• 46:46Mark Normand?

  Oh, feel around, yeah.

• 46:47Speaker 01

  It's a lot like that, you know?

• 46:48Mark Normand?

  Right, right.

• 46:49Speaker 01

  I recommend you definitely go see one of your favorite pornos in that 4D.

• 46:54Mark Normand?

  Yeah, 4D's in ya.

• 46:56Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 46:59Mark Normand?

  Wow, they jiggle ya.

• 47:00Speaker 01

  Yeah, they wiggle ya, they jiggle ya, they.

• 47:02Sam Morril?

  It's like Hawking on the island.

• 47:07Speaker 01

  Yeah, and then they spray mist, they sprayed wind, you know, crazy, yeah.

• 47:12Mark Normand?

  That's cool.

• 47:13Sam Morril?

  Yeah, people were seeing Odyssey in 4D.

• 47:16Mark Normand?

  Well, they gotta do something.

• 47:16Speaker 01

  I wonder what that is, just taking a spirit of the side like, Jesus.

• 47:20Mark Normand?

  Yeah, right, right. They gotta do something to get these people back in the theater, you know?

• 47:24Speaker 01

  Yeah, but I, personally, I love going to the theater.

• 47:28Mark Normand?

  I love it, I love it.

• 47:29Sam Morril?

  Especially when they, in New York City, they got like the Metrograph Film Forum, IFC, they play old movies, you could see a classic.

• 47:34Speaker 01

  But there's the same thing that, so I'm from Palm Desert, Joshua Tree area, right, so.

• 47:39Mark Normand?

  Who's from there?

• 47:40Speaker 01

  Well, most people, like, thousands of people die there every year, but only three people are born every year.

• 47:46Mark Normand?

  Seriously?

• 47:47Speaker 01

  And I'm one of them.

• 47:49Mark Normand?

  Wow.

• 47:49Speaker 01

  So, well, I mean, I think more people are born there now, but when I was, when I was a kid, but in the summertime, it's so fucking hot.

• 47:58Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 47:58Speaker 01

  That you go to the movies, and the same here, it's so stifling.

• 48:02Mark Normand?

  Right, right.

• 48:03Speaker 01

  You go to the theater.

• 48:04Mark Normand?

  Sure.

• 48:05Speaker 01

  You know, you don't, you don't go home and stream something when you go.

• 48:08Mark Normand?

  I know.

• 48:08Speaker 01

  You know?

• 48:09Sam Morril?

  It's also fun, it's like that communal experience of, I saw that movie, The Invite, in the theaters, and hearing other people laughing around you, it's like, oh, I haven't seen a comedy in theaters forever.

• 48:17Mark Normand?

  It's great, great. I've said it before, I saw American Pie in a black theater in New Orleans, and the fucking commentary was better than the movie. It was so good.

• 48:28Speaker 01

  Mystery Science Theater in New Orleans, stop.

• 48:30Mark Normand?

  Yes.

• 48:32Sam Morril?

  I'm square back in the day, it was fucking insane.

• 48:34Mark Normand?

  Yeah, totally.

• 48:35Speaker 01

  I saw, with one of my best buddy, Rio, blessed soul, wherever he is, we went and saw Blazing Saddles.

• 48:44Mark Normand?

  Oh.

• 48:45Speaker 01

  At a 7,000 seat, that's normally a venue, it's a venue I played at, 7,000 seats.

• 48:50Mark Normand?

  Jesus.

• 48:51Speaker 01

  Sold out.

• 48:52Sam Morril?

  Wow.

• 48:53Speaker 01

  You know, and I was sitting next to a family of Asians, you know, the whole row in front of me was, you know, a black, a full black row.

• 49:00Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 49:00Speaker 01

  You know, Mexicans to my left, you know, and, and, and.

• 49:05Mark Normand?

  Sounds like that song, Mexicans to the left, here I am.

• 49:08Speaker 01

  Asian family to the right.

• 49:10Mark Normand?

  Stuck in the middle with you.

• 49:13Speaker 01

  Stuck in the middle with Jews.

• 49:16Speaker 01

  And, and afterwards, Mel Brooks gave a talk, and, you know.

• 49:20Mark Normand?

  What?

• 49:20Speaker 01

  At first, I thought, okay, this is gonna be interesting. You know, who knows what the reaction's gonna be, but it was so, brought everyone together.

• 49:33Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 49:34Speaker 01

  It was so good, everyone was dying laughing so hard, and then the interviewer asked one question, and then Mel Brooks just talked for 90 minutes.

• 49:45Mark Normand?

  Wow.

• 49:46Speaker 01

  It was almost like, I gotta pee, and I'm in the center of this row, I can't, you know, I don't wanna miss a note, but also, I'm about to test these Depends here. It was, he was incredible, and, and what was mesmerizing is, is how united everyone really was.

• 50:03Mark Normand?

  Yes.

• 50:04Speaker 01

  Over, you know, you know.

• 50:05Mark Normand?

  That's what Bugsy now is like, I'm not one of these, you can't say anything more, but I do find that audiences are looking, they're like analyzing for a problem, you know? And that movie was just nothing but problematic.

• 50:16Sam Morril?

  That movie was just a giant tension release, like, I think everyone just like, oh, this is so fun. And originally supposed to be Richard Pryor played the role, a little play, but I guess the studio wouldn't go for it.

• 50:27Speaker 01

  You couldn't insure him at the time.

• 50:30Mark Normand?

  I think it did some writing on it, but, you know.

• 50:32Speaker 01

  Yeah, you know, he did a bunch of, right, there's a great doc about, about it.

• 50:35Sam Morril?

  The Mel Brooks doc?

• 50:35Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 50:36Mark Normand?

  Oh, I love it.

• 50:37Sam Morril?

  So good, yeah.

• 50:37Speaker 01

  But, but there's also a bunch of behind the scenes stuff about Blazing Saddles, and watch the bloopers too, the bloopers are incredible.

• 50:45Sam Morril?

  Is that one of your favorite movies?

• 50:47Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, it's, it's, I think it's such a triumph that, that, you know, they say it couldn't be made, but I think it's, it's so silly and eloquent at the same time.

• 50:59Mark Normand?

  Agreed, it's smart.

• 51:00Speaker 01

  You know, and I think, also, I think that casting Madeline Khan and, and.

• 51:04Mark Normand?

  She's awesome.

• 51:05Speaker 01

  Anything Madeline Khan is in.

• 51:07Mark Normand?

  Always.

• 51:08Sam Morril?

  Amazing.

• 51:08Speaker 01

  You know?

• 51:09Mark Normand?

  Have you seen her in Clue?

• 51:10Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 51:11Mark Normand?

  She's in the movie Clue, and she's so good in Clue. Yeah, she's always great.

• 51:15Speaker 01

  Is she in the, I thought.

• 51:16Sam Morril?

  Young Frankenstein?

• 51:17Mark Normand?

  Yeah, of course, of course.

• 51:18Speaker 01

  I mean, Young Frankenstein, it's, Teri Garr.

• 51:20Mark Normand?

  Oh, hotcha, macha.

• 51:22Speaker 01

  That was, that was.

• 51:24Sam Morril?

  And dude, her in After Hours, one of my favorite.

• 51:26Speaker 01

  They say she was a bit of a party girl, which I'm taking as likes to go out at night, I'm not taking it any further, but I, I think to myself, love to party with Teri Garr.

• 51:36Mark Normand?

  Oh, garr.

• 51:38Speaker 01

  I'm a gar-boy.

• 51:39Sam Morril?

  Cool, funny woman is like, that's, that's up there.

• 51:42Speaker 01

  Oh, I know. What was your first crush as a, like, your funny girl crush?

• 51:48Sam Morril?

  I loved Diane Keaton, cause I, you know, I went, New York kid, I went through that Woody Allen phase, and seeing her in all those movies.

• 51:54Speaker 01

  The hats always got me, there's always a barrier there.

• 51:56Sam Morril?

  Oh, in a very bad way.

• 51:58Speaker 01

  The hat, and it was, it was a barrier, I couldn't pass the hat.

• 52:01Sam Morril?

  Oh, wow, okay.

• 52:01Mark Normand?

  I couldn't, the hat and the tie, and the men's coat, and the face.

• 52:07Speaker 01

  I guess I'm the full chap, I don't know. I guess I like dudes, I don't know.

• 52:10Mark Normand?

  I was more into Woody.

• 52:11Sam Morril?

  No, I just, I just thought she was cool and quirky, and like there was no one like her, so I, yeah, she was one for sure, I'm thinking like funny.

• 52:18Mark Normand?

  For me, it was Marisa Tomei and my cousin Vinnie.

• 52:20Speaker 01

  That's big.

• 52:21Sam Morril?

  Dude, honestly, Goldie Hawn as a kid.

• 52:23Mark Normand?

  Oh, Goldie Hawn is big.

• 52:25Speaker 01

  I was gonna say, Goldie Hawn is mine.

• 52:26Sam Morril?

  Like Private Benjamin?

• 52:27Speaker 01

  The giggle, the giggling, and just laugh in, and, you know.

• 52:31Mark Normand?

  So cute.

• 52:32Speaker 01

  I grew up watching all these Dean Martin roasts where making mistakes was part of the fun, is watching the mistakes.

• 52:38Mark Normand?

  Right.

• 52:39Speaker 01

  And what they do with the mistakes, and those two, Dean Martin and Goldie Hawn together, that, those mistakes and her giggling her way through this, I just can't get enough of that.

• 52:50Mark Normand?

  Yes, she's very childlike.

• 52:51Sam Morril?

  Honestly, Julie Louis-Dreyfus too.

• 52:53Mark Normand?

  Oh, very hot, very hot.

• 52:55Sam Morril?

  Seinfeld was so big.

• 52:56Speaker 01

  Yeah, and even Veep, she's fantastic and just smart and funny and beautiful at the same time.

• 53:02Mark Normand?

  Yeah, she's the whole package. Just out of curiosity, just for my sick piece of shit mind here, what year did Goldie Hawn get breast implants? Felt pretty late.

• 53:14Speaker 01

  2021.

• 53:17Mark Normand?

  Is that one of your tattoos?

• 53:18Speaker 01

  And it was just one.

• 53:19Mark Normand?

  Okay.

• 53:19Speaker 01

  It was only one.

• 53:23Mark Normand?

  Get out of here. That's not real. She's got cans now.

• 53:26Speaker 01

  No, no, that's just, you know.

• 53:29Mark Normand?

  I'm telling you.

• 53:29Speaker 01

  Life moving on.

• 53:30Mark Normand?

  Okay, okay, wow.

• 53:32Speaker 01

  Despite rumors. How dare you falsely accuse her of getting fake?

• 53:37Mark Normand?

  I mean.

• 53:37Sam Morril?

  We're gonna get a cease and desist letter, you piece of shit.

• 53:39Mark Normand?

  I'm telling you, her boobs got bigger with age.

• 53:42Speaker 01

  Double D's in desist letter.

• 53:45Mark Normand?

  Look, she has boobs there.

• 53:46Speaker 01

  You know what? Yeah, but, yeah.

• 53:48Mark Normand?

  And then you go back to 1969, there's no boob. Just saying.

• 53:54Speaker 01

  Yeah, things move on.

• 53:55Mark Normand?

  All right, all right.

• 53:56Speaker 01

  Listen, Norman, you're gonna have to get over it, I'm telling you.

• 53:58Mark Normand?

  I hope it happens with my dick. Because I think it's getting smaller.

• 54:02Speaker 01

  Did you see Norman's got two tits on his dick?

• 54:06Speaker 01

  Well, he got older.

• 54:07Sam Morril?

  Your balls are huge.

• 54:09Mark Normand?

  I'm sorry, Goldie, I didn't mean to besmirch the lady, I just figured.

• 54:13Speaker 01

  Oh, look at how, I just, and so smart, man, smart, funny, yeah.

• 54:16Mark Normand?

  Very fun.

• 54:18Speaker 01

  What's the?

• 54:18Sam Morril?

  I can't believe that hat's.

• 54:19Speaker 01

  Foul play.

• 54:20Mark Normand?

  Oh, foul play with Chevy Chase.

• 54:21Speaker 01

  Foul play.

• 54:22Mark Normand?

  Or am I thinking of Fun fact, Funny Farm?

• 54:25Speaker 01

  No, no, not that one.

• 54:26Mark Normand?

  Okay, okay.

• 54:26Speaker 01

  No, that, that's not good, that's not a good one.

• 54:28Mark Normand?

  Okay. Okay, sorry.

• 54:30Sam Morril?

  Yeah, who was yours? You didn't say.

• 54:31Mark Normand?

  I said Marisa Tomei.

• 54:32Sam Morril?

  Oh, Tomei, yeah, that's a good one. Yeah, my cousin Vinny's amazing.

• 54:36Mark Normand?

  I even liked, uh, what's the lady, uh, oh, what's her fucking? The lady from Airplane, I didn't mind.

• 54:44Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 54:45Sam Morril?

  Julie, Julie, uh.

• 54:46Mark Normand?

  Haggerty?

• 54:47Sam Morril?

  Haggerty, yeah.

• 54:48Mark Normand?

  She had something.

• 54:49Speaker 01

  I, I feel like maybe she, no, I don't wanna take a guess.

• 54:53Sam Morril?

  She's in Freddy Got Fingered.

• 54:54Mark Normand?

  No.

• 54:55Sam Morril?

  Yeah, she's the mom.

• 54:57Speaker 01

  Daddy, would you like some sausages?

• 55:01Speaker 01

  What's funny is, that movie is not a great movie.

• 55:04Mark Normand?

  No.

• 55:05Speaker 01

  But that scene of the sausages has always stuck with me, and so, I've got three kids, so, very early on, I said, guys, you need to sit down, Camille, and my daughter, I was like, you guys need to sit down, this is important. And then, they're, what, what is that? I was just, just sit. And then I would play that, and so, over the years, I've been like, I've said to them, hey, we need to sit down, guys, we have something serious. And then play that. Until finally, it was like, sit down, guys, and like, daddy, would you like some sausages?

• 55:37Speaker 01

  But that's, you know, that's good parenting for you.

• 55:39Sam Morril?

  It is.

• 55:40Speaker 01

  There it is, there it is. Suspended sausage, who knew?

• 55:44Mark Normand?

  I mean, come on. My friend got, uh, when I, before I saw, um, Ghostbusters, he was like, Sigourney Weaver, very pretty, and I watched the movie, and I was like, ah, but then at the end, when she's a demon, so much hotter.

• 55:56Speaker 01

  That really speaks to where you're coming from.

• 55:58Mark Normand?

  I guess so, but she seemed down as a demon.

• 56:02Speaker 01

  Yeah, just down as a demon.

• 56:03Mark Normand?

  Yeah, like DTF, but the early, it's like, ah, just a lady.

• 56:09Mark Normand?

  But look at that, shoulder cooking, come on.

• 56:11Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 56:12Mark Normand?

  Now, why didn't she get breast implants?

• 56:15Mark Normand?

  Sorry, Dana, just joking around here. Oh, come on, Galaxy Quest.

• 56:21Sam Morril?

  Galaxy Quest, she was hot.

• 56:22Mark Normand?

  Oh, very hot.

• 56:23Sam Morril?

  That's a good flick, too.

• 56:24Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 56:25Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 56:26Speaker 01

  I mean, she's always been, when, as Ripley, and the more badass she got, the more, it's just, it's undeniable.

• 56:34Mark Normand?

  Oh, yeah.

• 56:34Speaker 01

  Plus, I have a thing for, I like fangs, when people have fangs, or horse teeth, or special teeth.

• 56:39Mark Normand?

  Interesting.

• 56:40Speaker 01

  You know?

• 56:41Mark Normand?

  Okay, I don't know what that means.

• 56:43Speaker 01

  I don't, I don't really know what it means, but I, I've always just felt like, a set of, you know, good fangs, or, or just individual teeth.

• 56:52Mark Normand?

  Yeah, so where you at on like Julia Roberts?

• 56:55Speaker 01

  Oh, I love, I love a horse teeth.

• 56:57Mark Normand?

  Yeah, I do too, actually.

• 56:58Sam Morril?

  It is attractive.

• 56:59Mark Normand?

  I like Sarah Jessica Parker.

• 57:01Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 57:01Mark Normand?

  I mean, that's a full.

• 57:02Speaker 01

  I'm on tour with the Foo Fighters, Dave.

• 57:05Speaker 01

  I just love it.

• 57:06Mark Normand?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 57:07Speaker 01

  Oh, look at her there, just so badass with the alien next to her, and, yeah.

• 57:11Mark Normand?

  Oh, hell yeah.

• 57:12Speaker 01

  I mean, I, I just think, yeah, she's a powerful gal.

• 57:15Mark Normand?

  Wow, that's like P. Diddy talking to you.

• 57:18Speaker 01

  Well, certainly that alien has oiled up to the hilt.

• 57:23Speaker 01

  I wonder what the oil budget on aliens was, I think, it must have been insane.

• 57:26Mark Normand?

  I'll call the Ayatollah.

• 57:30Mark Normand?

  Whoa, mama.

• 57:31Speaker 01

  You know, um, I don't know what happened, but this, this is completely empty.

• 57:36Mark Normand?

  Uh-oh, Peters, me as well.

• 57:39Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 57:40Mark Normand?

  Sorry, sorry to put you to work.

• 57:42Sam Morril?

  These were nice, thank you, dude.

• 57:43Mark Normand?

  It goes down two ways.

• 57:44Speaker 01

  Sorry you have to actually work.

• 57:46Sam Morril?

  We were talking before you came here, that we'd just both seen your Bourdain episode on, uh, In the Desert, that was such a cool episode.

• 57:52Speaker 01

  Yeah, Tony was awesome, he was awesome, he, he was a, a great drinking buddy, and a great, yeah, just a good guy, I, I really, uh, I think about him a lot, and whenever there's a, any sort of, you know, his birthday was recently, and, you know, uh,

• 58:12Speaker 01

  it's funny too, because some of these, you do interviews for record, and it's like, someone said, recently in England, it was like, you know, there's talk of, there's a new Tony Bourdain biopic, who do you think should play him? And I was like, no one should fucking play him, he should be here.

• 58:29Mark Normand?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 58:30Speaker 01

  I just, I don't know, some of these questions that happen, you're just like, I'm really glad you asked, asshole. You know, it just.

• 58:38Mark Normand?

  It's awkward, because you're like, is it gonna live up to him? Now it's a movie, so now, do you see it, or is it weird to see it?

• 58:44Speaker 01

  It's just hard when, when you really care about somebody, and you're, yeah, it's just like.

• 58:51Sam Morril?

  You could tell that you guys had a closeness in that episode.

• 58:54Speaker 01

  Well, I said to him, he had done, uh, an episode about the desert, and I, and I said, because, I mean, you know, we, we met, I mean, it's gotta be over, it's like 20 years ago now, it was a long time ago, you know, and, uh, and, uh, I said, oh, I, I just said offhandedly, because we'd been in a Christmas episode before that.

• 59:17Sam Morril?

  Yeah, I saw that, you guys were playing.

• 59:19Speaker 01

  Yeah, and, and, and, um, but I said, there's all these really special places in the high desert, I gotta show you, you know, like, you know, and you haven't lived till you've been in the, the Walmart at 2:30 in the morning in Joshua Tree. If you really wanna see what life is like in America, that's, that, that's the epicenter of it, it's like, you know, the antihistamine aisle, you know?

• 59:41Mark Normand?

  Hell, yeah.

• 59:41Speaker 01

  That's the spot, and, uh, and I just said, you know, but when you come, when you, when you're next in LA, we'll just do a, like a guys' trip, and I'll show you all this stuff. And he, and he, of course, was like, let's film it, and then I said, well, then I'm gonna pick places that might be closing, because.

• 59:58Mark Normand?

  Oh, yeah.

• 59:59Speaker 01

  In the, in the desert, that summertime, everything gets shut down, or it's so difficult, when it's 118, to keep your restaurant open, and keep that stuff.

• 1:00:07Mark Normand?

  Right.

• 1:00:08Speaker 01

  And so, I think he always was a real champion of that mom and pop, street food.

• 1:00:14Mark Normand?

  Definitely.

• 1:00:15Speaker 01

  Quirky places that don't appeal to everyone, and so, they're always on the cutting edge of being gone.

• 1:00:20Mark Normand?

  Yep.

• 1:00:21Speaker 01

  You know, and, um, so we went to places that were largely in danger of being gone. And he, he's basically saved them all.

• 1:00:31Mark Normand?

  Wow.

• 1:00:32Speaker 01

  Because, you know.

• 1:00:32Sam Morril?

  Because Stanton meant everything.

• 1:00:33Speaker 01

  Yeah, it meant everything, and it, and there was all this data about, you know, um, if he went to your place, what happened to your business, and then what the dissipation level, and, and the dissipate, you know, the first 10 months was through the roof.

• 1:00:47Mark Normand?

  Right.

• 1:00:48Speaker 01

  But the dissipation level was two or three years.

• 1:00:51Mark Normand?

  That's damn good.

• 1:00:52Sam Morril?

  He visited Goldie Hawn's cans, and right after, they exploded, it's huge.

• 1:00:58Speaker 01

  And that's why he came here.

• 1:01:00Mark Normand?

  Look at that, the fun Christmas sweaters.

• 1:01:03Sam Morril?

  That was a fun episode, yeah, that was cool, he, he's, actually, he's annoyed that you guys are making noise, he just brings you eggnog. That was fun.

• 1:01:10Speaker 01

  And on that episode, we, there was, we're waiting for the Christmas food to get cooked, you know, and meanwhile, we're outside getting absolutely cooked.

• 1:01:20Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:21Speaker 01

  So by the time, by the time we're there, that shot on the, the top right.

• 1:01:25Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:25Speaker 01

  Oh, actually, so, that's me and him there, I've got a guitar, and we were, he was like, well, we need to shoot a promo for this thing, and, um, oh, man. And, um, so, I said, let's do the Animal House thing, you know, I gave my love a chicken.

• 1:01:42Mark Normand?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:01:42Speaker 01

  And then you'll break the guitar and do like, sorry.

• 1:01:46Mark Normand?

  Right, right.

• 1:01:47Speaker 01

  And, um, and my daughter, Camille, she, she, she'd been around Tony reams of times by then, you know, a bunch new, and, um, so we score this guitar, score the back of it, so it's easy to break, and, and he destroys this guitar, and I, before the episode came out, I take it home, and I said, oh, look at this funny bit, you know? And my daughter, Camille, who was about five or six at the time, she watched it, and she turned and was like, how could he do that? You guys are friends, how could he do that to you?

• 1:02:19Mark Normand?

  Ah.

• 1:02:19Speaker 01

  And it wasn't tears of sadness, it was tears of anger, and she was defending me, and she was like, where is he? Where is he? Like, he's always over there, you know?

• 1:02:27Mark Normand?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:02:28Speaker 01

  And I, I saw, I said, I texted, I, you know, took a video text and said, Tony, you've got a six-year-old Camille who's fucking pissed. And there's no way out for you, man, you gotta, and then she, she grabs the phone and says, hey, don't ever do that to my dad, and I said, I said, let me talk, it's gonna be fine, and, um, so I sent it to Tony, and he sent back this video that was, you know, one part, you know, um, a bit silly in order to try to do it, but, but also appealing to a six-year-old girl who's defending her dad.

• 1:03:10Mark Normand?

  Sure.

• 1:03:11Speaker 01

  And that was like, you know, basically taking a knee, like, I'll never do that again, and I'll always check with you first.

• 1:03:18Mark Normand?

  Ah, geez.

• 1:03:19Speaker 01

  And I've got your dad's back, and you know, um, and it was just, uh.

• 1:03:23Mark Normand?

  Do we have footage of the guitar breaking? I don't know if you can find that. But did it go through? They, they went with that promo?

• 1:03:30Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, they did.

• 1:03:30Mark Normand?

  Oh, hell, yeah. Sorry, Camille.

• 1:03:33Speaker 01

  Well, I think what was great about his show is that he had ultimate control, and he had a, a great crew around him that had his, they were, he was, he had the control, and they had his back 100%.

• 1:03:46Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 1:03:47Speaker 01

  And so, yeah, it was on CNN, but they really had nothing to do with what he was gonna do. He was gonna do what he was gonna do.

• 1:03:53Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 1:03:54Speaker 01

  And I think everyone, you know, you watch that, and you can feel.

• 1:03:57Mark Normand?

  Definitely.

• 1:03:57Speaker 01

  The authenticity of that, that he wasn't being sort of, there was no man with a hand up his ass doing the puppet show.

• 1:04:03Mark Normand?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:04:04Sam Morril?

  And when he would do the voiceover, it was just well-written, like those.

• 1:04:07Mark Normand?

  Yeah, it really was.

• 1:04:08Sam Morril?

  It was profound sometimes, I loved it.

• 1:04:10Speaker 01

  You, you knew there wasn't someone editing what he had to say, you know?

• 1:04:13Mark Normand?

  Here we go. Oh.

• 1:04:19Mark Normand?

  That's fun.

• 1:04:20Speaker 01

  We're at a place called the Integrotron, sorry. We're at a place called the Integrotron and um, which is a really cool mysterious place, you know, built by this guy Edward Van Tassel, who used to work for Howard Hughes and very strange and peculiar place worth looking into on, um, and it was sort of struggling a little bit and now even, even now, you know, you need to book that place four months out, that's it.

• 1:04:47Mark Normand?

  There it is.

• 1:04:48Speaker 01

  Integrotron. It's supposed to be a rejuvenation ma- machine, it's the, it was communicated to the, the guy Edward Van Tassel in his dreams by extraterrestrials and he woke up and drew the, the um, the blueprints for this machine that you would walk in one end and walk to the other, there's not a single nail in it, it's all, it's all wooden dowels.

• 1:05:09Sam Morril?

  Wow.

• 1:05:09Speaker 01

  And when the machine worked was, when it was completed, it was supposed to spin, um, and you know, it had all this copper, um, wires that were supposed to help transmit and rejuvenate.

• 1:05:24Mark Normand?

  Damn.

• 1:05:24Speaker 01

  Not, not, not make you younger, but sort of make you as strong as you should be for where you're at and obviously he never finished it, but the, when he did die, the, a true fact is that five black SUVs and men in suits came and stole all his paperwork.

• 1:05:41Mark Normand?

  Whoa.

• 1:05:42Speaker 01

  Took all his file cabinets. It's definitely something I'm sure Joe Rogan would, would draw up.

• 1:05:47Mark Normand?

  Sure, bring it up.

• 1:05:48Speaker 01

  He would, he would bang that to death.

• 1:05:50Mark Normand?

  Yeah, I, I saw Blazing Saddles in there.

• 1:05:54Sam Morril?

  Didn't you say on Rogan that you got stung by a scorpion?

• 1:05:56Speaker 01

  I did, yeah.

• 1:05:57Sam Morril?

  What the fuck?

• 1:05:58Speaker 01

  I did, well, I uh, I know better too, I, you know, I, one of the things you learn, people say when it's 118, you know, how do you deal? And uh, and you don't.

• 1:06:10Sam Morril?

  You get a different type of pain, you get stung by a scorpion.

• 1:06:12Speaker 01

  Well, you don't, you don't and, and you, and you realize, you, you sort of, what do the animals do? How do they deal with this situation?

• 1:06:19Sam Morril?

  Yeah.

• 1:06:19Speaker 01

  And what the animals do is they don't come out till the nighttime, you know, they, there is no animals to be seen in the daytime in summer.

• 1:06:28Sam Morril?

  Right.

• 1:06:28Speaker 01

  In Joshua Tree. And um, I was driving up to this, this studio called Rancho de la Luna, which is in Joshua Tree and it's in a, just a house and, you know, I had a case of beer, we went and got a case of beer and I, I, I know better, I had my shoes off. So I'm, I'm in the choc- riding shotgun and I, I get out of the car and in the uh, I step onto the, the dirt in my bare feet.

• 1:06:55Mark Normand?

  Uh oh.

• 1:06:55Speaker 01

  Which you really shouldn't do, you know, when it's hot like that. And I reach in to get this case of beer and I feel the craziest sting on my foot and in the light of the, of the, you know, the car light which is being thrown onto the dirt, I pick up my foot and I look down and I see this scorpion just hanging off my foot.

• 1:07:12Mark Normand?

  Oh.

• 1:07:12Speaker 01

  And I slapped this thing and much like uh, Home Alone.

• 1:07:16Mark Normand?

  Hmm.

• 1:07:17Speaker 01

  When they put this, the spider, I screamed like, it was a noise I don't recognize in my own, you know.

• 1:07:24Mark Normand?

  Sure.

• 1:07:24Speaker 01

  Voice. It was so high pitched and terrified. And uh, so I do this scream and I jump in, you know, in the car and when I slapped it, that scorpion hit the ground, sort of shook off and turned and came right at me. I mean, they're so aggressive.

• 1:07:40Mark Normand?

  Whoa.

• 1:07:40Speaker 01

  Cause shouldn't it have been, shouldn't this scorpion have seen me and said, oh my god, a fucking giant?

• 1:07:47Mark Normand?

  I know, right?

• 1:07:48Speaker 01

  I'm, yeah, but no way, no how, this came at me.

• 1:07:52Mark Normand?

  Whoa.

• 1:07:52Speaker 01

  And so I screamed again.

• 1:07:54Sam Morril?

  Jesus.

• 1:07:55Speaker 01

  With the same high pitched.

• 1:07:57Mark Normand?

  You gotta drop the case off.

• 1:07:59Speaker 01

  Yeah, I should, I should have, but I was too busy shitting in my own pants. And uh, so I, I uh, I went inside and from what I understood at the time, there were only two scorpions in the Mojave Desert, one is, you know, like a bee sting and the other one is 12 hours of central system shutdown.

• 1:08:19Mark Normand?

  Here we go.

• 1:08:19Speaker 01

  And so I, I, for the life of me, I was like, one is iridescent, one is black, which one, what did I, what did I see? It's like when you get in a fight, you don't really remember all the details, but I remember he had a red button on his shirt, right? So, so.

• 1:08:32Mark Normand?

  But in Palm Springs, there's nothing black.

• 1:08:35Speaker 01

  No, just on timeshare.

• 1:08:36Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 1:08:37Speaker 01

  Blown out. Uh, so I went inside.

• 1:08:41Sam Morril?

  Which one's the bad one? Please don't say the black one.

• 1:08:44Speaker 01

  I think it is, yeah.

• 1:08:44Mark Normand?

  Oh, that's racist. Pull it up.

• 1:08:46Speaker 01

  Yeah. Well, I didn't create it. Well, anyway, so I uh, um, I went inside and, and my friend Fred Drake said, I believe there's a wives tale that if you submerge your foot in boiling water, that'll draw the poison out.

• 1:09:00Sam Morril?

  Oh geez.

• 1:09:00Speaker 01

  And he said, in the meantime, drink this, as Jack Daniels, I don't drink whiskey, that's, I just, I just don't. And uh.

• 1:09:07Mark Normand?

  Not either.

• 1:09:07Speaker 01

  So I, not anymore, not any less. No, so I, so I start huffing down this whiskey, you know, which, cause being in pain and drunk is the perfect thing to do.

• 1:09:19Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 1:09:19Speaker 01

  And then he boils this water, I put my foot in boiling water, I burned my foot.

• 1:09:23Mark Normand?

  Oh wow.

• 1:09:24Speaker 01

  That doesn't work, by the way.

• 1:09:25Mark Normand?

  Oh, thanks Fred.

• 1:09:27Speaker 01

  Trying anything. And then, this is pre-internet, and then we come to find out, another friend came in and he said, oh no, no, no, there's only one type of scorpion in, in Mojave and it's like a bee sting. That other scorpion is, is in um, the uh, Sonoran.

• 1:09:43Sam Morril?

  South Central?

• 1:09:44Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:09:46Speaker 01

  So I'd done all this stuff and worried and, and um, all for, all for naught, you know.

• 1:09:51Mark Normand?

  Oh my god.

• 1:09:53Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:09:53Mark Normand?

  But hey, cool story, you can say you got bit by a scorpion.

• 1:09:55Speaker 01

  Yeah, so you know, when you, you know, when you're trying to think of something to get tattooed, that's why, you know, try to.

• 1:10:02Mark Normand?

  Oh yeah.

• 1:10:03Speaker 01

  You know, otherwise you just have like a clown with a balloon dick and you wonder why you did it.

• 1:10:08Mark Normand?

  Well, I got a homeless guy right here, cause he bit me on the train that time.

• 1:10:11Speaker 01

  Right. If you get bit, you get a tattoo.

• 1:10:16Speaker 01

  That's a heavy load to bear.

• 1:10:19Sam Morril?

  But I'm page.

• 1:10:20Mark Normand?

  Now we're talking, folks.

• 1:10:21Sam Morril?

  Do you get annoyed by the term desert rock or stoner rock? Do either of those annoy you?

• 1:10:25Speaker 01

  No, I'm really pushed hard for that to become that because I, I, I'm uh, um, it just sounded more mysterious to me and I'm, I'm never fancied that we were heavy metal or punk rock or, you know, I, I think if you don't wanna be in a genre, it's better to try to make up your own and see if that will take, basically.

• 1:10:45Sam Morril?

  Cause that's something you said in the Bourdain thing, that you would get shit if you sounded like someone else when you were starting out. But with comics, we always talk about, we're, we're impersonating other comic when we start.

• 1:10:55Speaker 01

  Yeah, there's no way. Well, but that's where you start when you're young, I mean.

• 1:10:57Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 1:10:57Speaker 01

  My, my early stuff sounded like someone else.

• 1:11:00Sam Morril?

  Who would you sound like?

• 1:11:01Speaker 01

  Uh, I really loved the Misfits.

• 1:11:03Mark Normand?

  Oh sure.

• 1:11:04Speaker 01

  I love, I, I love The Cramps and things like that. It didn't sound so much like The Cramps, but I listened to a lot of GBH and Discharge, this English punk rock stuff and the Subhumans, which, you know, but you could track these bands getting better as musicians as the years went on.

• 1:11:18Mark Normand?

  Mm hmm.

• 1:11:19Speaker 01

  And, and so I just thought, oh well, you know, um, and, and in the desert, if you, if you sounded like someone else, you got made fun of. And so quickly, if you wore your influences on your sleeve, you felt terrible about yourself.

• 1:11:33Mark Normand?

  Uh huh.

• 1:11:33Speaker 01

  And because you're not playing, you're not getting paid and, and, you know, what, people don't appreciate shit they get for free because they didn't do anything.

• 1:11:41Mark Normand?

  That's true.

• 1:11:42Speaker 01

  You know, they just sort of abuse it. And so worse than being booed, if someone didn't like you, it's just silence. Or they're just talking to their friend, you go boom, what do you think? And it's like just conversation.

• 1:11:53Mark Normand?

  Totally.

• 1:11:54Speaker 01

  And so um.

• 1:11:55Mark Normand?

  Indifference.

• 1:11:56Speaker 01

  Yeah, that, that's what really hurts.

• 1:11:58Mark Normand?

  That hurts.

• 1:11:58Speaker 01

  You know, indifference.

• 1:11:59Sam Morril?

  Booed, you're at least affecting them somehow.

• 1:12:02Speaker 01

  Yeah, it feels like art.

• 1:12:03Sam Morril?

  Yeah.

• 1:12:04Speaker 01

  Right? Art elicits a reaction.

• 1:12:05Sam Morril?

  Yeah.

• 1:12:06Speaker 01

  So if, if, if a lar- if art doesn't, if there's no reaction, it's nothing. The, the landscape painting on the wall in the Marriott, you don't care about. And so it's just not art.

• 1:12:16Mark Normand?

  It's not art.

• 1:12:16Speaker 01

  You know, and, and, but, but you see a painting and you're like, fuck this guy, Francis Bacon.

• 1:12:21Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 1:12:21Speaker 01

  You know?

• 1:12:22Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 1:12:23Speaker 01

  And so I think early on, it was like, I will make an impact of one way or another.

• 1:12:30Mark Normand?

  Mm hmm.

• 1:12:30Speaker 01

  And um, and so, you know, you try to sound different.

• 1:12:35Mark Normand?

  Yeah, every, oh sorry, every comedy club I go to, the, the owner goes, when do you want me to step in? I know a lot of cra- comics do crowd work, some people get heckles, some people like getting heckled. When, when, I said, step in when they're chit chatting. I'll take a heckle. I'll take a you suck or fuck you.

• 1:12:49Speaker 01

  If you dare to heckle, you know, I mean.

• 1:12:51Mark Normand?

  I can use that, but chit chat, I'm just like, it's like a gnat and it's fucking my rhythm off, you know?

• 1:12:56Sam Morril?

  Yeah.

• 1:12:56Mark Normand?

  So yeah, I always hate the heckle.

• 1:12:58Speaker 01

  What's your take, there's so much crowd work going on now, what's your take on, on, I mean, if, if you have a good sense of humor, crowd work can just be kind of simple, but also there's something kind of exciting about it.

• 1:13:10Sam Morril?

  It's not like, like, it's a sauce, it's fine, but it's like, I don't wanna do any till like an hour into my, I wanna do an hour of jokes.

• 1:13:17Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 1:13:18Sam Morril?

  I do a live show, but then I'll do it at the end if they wanna like riff and stuff.

• 1:13:21Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:13:21Sam Morril?

  Cause sometimes you find stuff and sometimes there's a moment that makes that show unique. So I, I think it can be cool.

• 1:13:26Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:13:26Sam Morril?

  But I think if it's like a sauce, if it's all there is.

• 1:13:29Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:13:29Sam Morril?

  It's not real, it's nothing.

• 1:13:31Speaker 01

  Cause there's a lot more of it now, or on display.

• 1:13:34Sam Morril?

  It's a way to get, it's a way to get engagement without burning your jokes, which I get that, but to me, it's like Mark and I got obsessed with this because of jokes.

• 1:13:40Speaker 01

  So.

• 1:13:41Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 1:13:41Sam Morril?

  I get no excitement from it unless, but you know. You can really rip a room open with it because they know it's spontaneous.

• 1:13:48Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:13:48Sam Morril?

  That's nice, but yeah.

• 1:13:50Speaker 01

  Yeah, it sort of rings like proof that, yeah, I am actually funny, whether it's the bathroom, the kitchen, the crowd work.

• 1:13:55Sam Morril?

  But comics should be good. Like, it's so much harder to write a great bit, so I get excited by a bit. I don't really.

• 1:14:00Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:14:01Sam Morril?

  It doesn't really excite me.

• 1:14:02Speaker 01

  That's an exhibition of word economy and writing and really like working over a thought completely, you know?

• 1:14:09Mark Normand?

  Exactly. No one ever quote, no one goes, hey, you see that Chris Rock crowd work clip?

• 1:14:13Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:14:13Mark Normand?

  Now, you know his bits, you know his point of view.

• 1:14:16Sam Morril?

  And you know Chris will be funny off the cuff too, obviously, but like, it's like, yeah, Chris's specials are.

• 1:14:21Mark Normand?

  But you also get a bump with crowd work. Like, if a crowd work is a seven out of 10 actually funny, it's gonna hit a 10 because it's in the moment.

• 1:14:29Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:14:30Mark Normand?

  But I think of a joke.

• 1:14:31Sam Morril?

  You don't get rattled, but it's also like, it would take so much, someone's gotta like shoot themselves in the head in the crowd to rattle us. Like, we're so numb to.

• 1:14:39Speaker 01

  Well, I feel the same way because I don't mind dealing with hecklers at all. I enjoy, I enjoy that. And also, people hold up signs and things like that, that, you know, of songs, so they can dictate what we're doing. You know, if we, if I see a sign and we're playing and it's just like, alright, well, let's just change the set and we're gonna just play this now. Because it's like giving it over to them. It's definitely a different connotation.

• 1:15:06Mark Normand?

  Sure.

• 1:15:06Speaker 01

  But I, you know, I am interested because there's so much more crowd work that's being put forward.

• 1:15:15Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 1:15:15Speaker 01

  Like, hey, look at what I've done here, you know?

• 1:15:18Mark Normand?

  It's weird if that's all you got.

• 1:15:19Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:15:20Mark Normand?

  If you're relying on it to kill, that's a problem.

• 1:15:23Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:15:23Mark Normand?

  If you can use it, great. It should be on their tool belt.

• 1:15:25Speaker 01

  Yeah, it seems like comics judge it.

• 1:15:27Sam Morril?

  I don't like, if I'm following someone and all they do is crowd work, I'm annoyed, but if they get heckled, of course, they have to deal with it.

• 1:15:34Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 1:15:34Sam Morril?

  But if they only, if they're fishing for it, I get a little annoyed. I wanna follow, I think, because then you have to kind of get them, in your first seven minutes, you have to find a way to get them back into your rhythm.

• 1:15:44Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:15:45Sam Morril?

  If you're doing a short set, you know.

• 1:15:46Mark Normand?

  And I just don't care what you do. What do you do, sir? Who gives a fuck? He's a dentist.

• 1:15:51Speaker 01

  You're not doing it now, that's for sure. You're gonna do that shit later.

• 1:15:54Mark Normand?

  Right, right.

• 1:15:55Speaker 01

  Well, but I have this charity and we do this event and in order, I think, you know, there's this age old adage that music and comedy doesn't work together. I don't believe, I don't agree with that at all. You know, I think that, but my way to get, and when I do this event, it's, the hallmark of it is that I'm only asking the musicians, do two songs. That way the investment isn't too much.

• 1:16:20Mark Normand?

  Right.

• 1:16:20Speaker 01

  You know, a lot of these events are five hours long and they want you to do a whole thing and it's a pain in the ass. It's like, no, no, no, no, just do two songs. And the comedians, if you don't wanna give bits away, or you don't wanna do the same old shit, just do crowd work or make fun of me. Just that way, it's just a way to, everyone's only doing a little and you really spend most of the night just enjoying each other's work.

• 1:16:41Mark Normand?

  Right.

• 1:16:41Speaker 01

  You know?

• 1:16:42Mark Normand?

  Right.

• 1:16:42Speaker 01

  For those kind of events, because I like, I do all kinds of charity stuff, but it's, it can be a pain in the ass.

• 1:16:49Mark Normand?

  Of course.

• 1:16:50Speaker 01

  If someone wants you to put something huge together.

• 1:16:52Mark Normand?

  Yeah, it's a lot of work.

• 1:16:53Speaker 01

  It's a lot of work, or you're giving bits away.

• 1:16:55Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 1:16:56Sam Morril?

  I don't hear about giving bits away, you know.

• 1:16:57Speaker 01

  Or you're doing something old that you've done, you know, potentially.

• 1:17:01Sam Morril?

  Totally.

• 1:17:01Speaker 01

  You know?

• 1:17:02Mark Normand?

  That's the worst.

• 1:17:03Speaker 01

  But it's like, in that situation, it seems like crowd work is acceptable.

• 1:17:06Mark Normand?

  Yes.

• 1:17:07Speaker 01

  It can bridge that four minute gap really easily.

• 1:17:10Mark Normand?

  Great point.

• 1:17:11Speaker 01

  You know?

• 1:17:11Sam Morril?

  Yeah.

• 1:17:11Mark Normand?

  Now, what about these musicians, these lead singer guys who do jokes in between songs?

• 1:17:17Speaker 01

  Oh, for fuck's sake.

• 1:17:20Speaker 01

  You know, I don't know, I.

• 1:17:22Mark Normand?

  I always get jealous because I can't play, you know, Stairway to Heaven between a bit, you know?

• 1:17:26Sam Morril?

  But some guys do it well. Like, I used to like on the live albums when Leonard Cohen would have like a quick aside. I thought he would do it kind of smoothly, you know?

• 1:17:32Speaker 01

  Well, I think he's a special case where you're like, you know, read the ingredients to toothpaste, I think I'm good. I would listen to anything he would do.

• 1:17:40Sam Morril?

  Totally.

• 1:17:41Mark Normand?

  Yeah, that voice.

• 1:17:41Speaker 01

  And it just seemed, some people have a wisdom, you know, we did the Bridge School benefit that, um, oh my fucking god, uh.

• 1:17:53Mark Normand?

  We've been drinking.

• 1:17:54Speaker 01

  Yeah, but what's, it's, it's Neil Young.

• 1:17:59Mark Normand?

  Oh, shit.

• 1:18:00Speaker 01

  It's like, who's that? But he had this, this thing you do and you have to play acoustically. You can't play anything electric, right? And we played, it's two nights and, you know, someone played before us, I can't remember, but then the next night, Tom Waits played before us.

• 1:18:18Sam Morril?

  Whoa.

• 1:18:18Mark Normand?

  Jeez.

• 1:18:19Speaker 01

  And it was like.

• 1:18:20Mark Normand?

  The coolest.

• 1:18:21Speaker 01

  Oh, god.

• 1:18:22Sam Morril?

  Was he doing old stuff or what does he do at a short set?

• 1:18:24Speaker 01

  He was gonna do whatever the fuck, well, it's like 40 minutes.

• 1:18:27Sam Morril?

  Oh, 40 minutes, okay.

• 1:18:28Speaker 01

  And so, which is even worse, because he would, he'd play a song that was fucking amazing.

• 1:18:35Sam Morril?

  Does he do, does he do like the old stuff or does he do newer stuff when he does this?

• 1:18:39Speaker 01

  He was doing a little bit of both.

• 1:18:40Sam Morril?

  That's cool.

• 1:18:41Speaker 01

  He'd wander and plus, he'd wander over the piano and go, wow, and he's chewing gum. Like, I'm only doing this because, you know, I owe Neil money and, but he's doing jokes in between, then killing it, then getting up and going over the guitar and going, nah, and then having, it all looked like he was just improv-ing the whole thing, but there's no fucking way, and plus there was jokes.

• 1:19:09Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 1:19:09Speaker 01

  That he was killing back in the day. Oh, he's hilarious, you know?

• 1:19:13Mark Normand?

  Did you get to hang with him at all?

• 1:19:15Speaker 01

  I didn't, I, it's where I met Les Claypool from Primus, was playing bass with them and David Haldago from, uh, oh my god, brain's going, but was playing guitar.

• 1:19:26Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 1:19:26Speaker 01

  And I didn't get to talk to him, but that's where I kind of met Les and was hanging out with those guys and, but he destroyed so hard.

• 1:19:34Mark Normand?

  Wow.

• 1:19:35Speaker 01

  Yeah, Tom, and to play, to play after, to play after Tom Waits.

• 1:19:41Mark Normand?

  Yeah, tough shoes to follow.

• 1:19:43Speaker 01

  Oh my god, yeah, I was, that's like flip flops to follow. It was, we, the first night we did so well, and the second night, it was kind of like, you're destined to die.

• 1:19:55Mark Normand?

  Right, right.

• 1:19:56Speaker 01

  You know, there's no way out.

• 1:19:57Mark Normand?

  Yeah.

• 1:19:58Speaker 01

  I think they have a recording of that. Don't play it.

• 1:20:01Sam Morril?

  Tom Waits has so many great drinking songs too, like, they're such like, you like hear them when you're drunk and you, it almost makes you feel cool that you're shitfaced, like, like Rain Dogs.

• 1:20:10Speaker 01

  Well, when he's going, well, this is everywhere. The piano has been drinking.

• 1:20:14Sam Morril?

  I love that song.

• 1:20:15Speaker 01

  But, but you say to yourself, yeah, that seems right. I think the piano has a drink.

• 1:20:19Mark Normand?

  Right, right.

• 1:20:19Speaker 01

  I poured a whole fucking quart of booze in there. It only plays drunk songs.

• 1:20:24Sam Morril?

  I love, it's such drinking.

• 1:20:25Speaker 01

  I mean, it was kind of, it was probably the most we've ever been destroyed by another artist.

• 1:20:30Mark Normand?

  Wow.

• 1:20:31Speaker 01

  You know?

• 1:20:32Sam Morril?

  Comics will do, there's certain comics that are tough to follow and it can be because they're so good or so bad. It can be either a thing.

• 1:20:37Mark Normand?

  They can bury it.

• 1:20:38Speaker 01

  Well, in what way would a so bad be tough to, because they've just fragged the audience.

• 1:20:42Sam Morril?

  They poison the room. Yeah, they, they.

• 1:20:44Mark Normand?

  You gotta dig out of it and then like get back to normal ground and then do well.

• 1:20:49Speaker 01

  Sure, yeah, the natives are restless and upset.

• 1:20:52Mark Normand?

  Yes, yes.

• 1:20:53Speaker 01

  You know?

• 1:20:54Mark Normand?

  Exactly.

• 1:20:55Sam Morril?

  But there's certain people that, yeah, they, they can rip the room open and you're just like, what the fuck do I do?

• 1:21:00Speaker 01

  Well, I like to, this is why, you know, trying to be in a band's band and really working hard so that when you do play, you know, I like to be the band that you don't wanna follow, because it, it doesn't matter if the other band has more fans than you. It's the other band that knows if, if you've played in a way where they're thinking, oh no, how are we gonna follow this? It's not always, it's not really about the fans, it's about that.

• 1:21:26Mark Normand?

  Got it.

• 1:21:27Speaker 01

  You know, it's about being able to sort of mic drop on the other band.

• 1:21:30Mark Normand?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:21:31Speaker 01

  But I gotta tell you, there was no way out after this. There's no way out. And we walked out and we go, one, two, and there's, you know, one microphone over the drums, we go, one, two, and as, and as soon as we start, I see the mic is falling over and it just goes, and makes this super loud noise on the floor, Tom.

• 1:21:51Mark Normand?

  Ah.

• 1:21:52Speaker 01

  So it's like boom, boom. And it was such a terrible way to begin.

• 1:21:59Mark Normand?

  Damn.

• 1:22:00Speaker 01

  You didn't even get to your four. One, two, boom, bam.

• 1:22:04Mark Normand?

  Yeah, I've had that where you try to kill it and you grab the mic and the cord comes out.

• 1:22:07Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:22:08Mark Normand?

  And you're like, oh shit.

• 1:22:09Speaker 01

  And I'm just kind of impotent. You spill the thing.

• 1:22:11Mark Normand?

  Yeah, yeah, exactly.

• 1:22:12Speaker 01

  Turns into a Chevy Chase pratfall from hell.

• 1:22:14Mark Normand?

  Completely.

• 1:22:15Speaker 01

  An emotional roller coaster.

• 1:22:16Mark Normand?

  Damn. Is he still with us?

• 1:22:19Sam Morril?

  Tom Waits?

• 1:22:19Mark Normand?

  Yeah. Oh, okay, okay.

• 1:22:21Speaker 01

  No, he's just been acting like an old man since he was a little.

• 1:22:23Mark Normand?

  That's true.

• 1:22:24Sam Morril?

  Great actors, wow, that's the funny thing, like shortcuts, fucking all these movies he's in.

• 1:22:29Mark Normand?

  Is he in coffee and cigarettes?

• 1:22:30Speaker 01

  Yeah, he is with Iggy.

• 1:22:32Mark Normand?

  With Iggy?

• 1:22:33Sam Morril?

  He's in that Jim Jarmusch movie too, Down by Law.

• 1:22:36Mark Normand?

  Yeah, that's it.

• 1:22:36Sam Morril?

  He's in a lot of stuff.

• 1:22:37Speaker 01

  Well, and also in, in the movie, I based my whole fashion life off of, which is Rumblefish.

• 1:22:43Mark Normand?

  Oh, really?

• 1:22:44Speaker 01

  Basically dressed like Matt Dillon since I was nine years old.

• 1:22:47Mark Normand?

  Wow, yeah, Matt Dillon's a hunk.

• 1:22:49Speaker 01

  Yeah, he is a hunk.

• 1:22:50Mark Normand?

  I saw him at a restaurant in the East Village.

• 1:22:52Speaker 01

  Still a hunk.

• 1:22:53Mark Normand?

  Still a hunk, looks great. But I saw him at a restaurant, he was alone, and I was, I was writing or something.

• 1:22:58Speaker 01

  How hunky is that? He's by himself? What was he doing, reading?

• 1:23:01Mark Normand?

  He was, actually.

• 1:23:02Speaker 01

  Oh my god.

• 1:23:03Sam Morril?

  My ex-girlfriend was at a restaurant with him one night and she goes, come meet me, I'm with Matt Dillon. I was like, no.

• 1:23:07Mark Normand?

  What?

• 1:23:09Sam Morril?

  Because he's trying to fuck you. I don't, I don't wanna cockblock Matt Dillon.

• 1:23:11Mark Normand?

  Of course.

• 1:23:12Sam Morril?

  If you wanna get fucked by Matt Dillon, go ahead and get fucked by Matt Dillon. I'm not stepping in.

• 1:23:17Speaker 01

  I'm gonna cockblock Jeremy Piven, but not.

• 1:23:20Mark Normand?

  Good luck.

• 1:23:22Speaker 01

  I think her saying no would cockblock Jeremy Piven.

• 1:23:25Sam Morril?

  You've been blocked.

• 1:23:25Mark Normand?

  You've been blocked. But yeah, I was in a restaurant and he walks in and he sits down at a table and he rearranges the salt and pepper and he gets up and goes to another table and he left.

• 1:23:36Sam Morril?

  What, who is this?

• 1:23:37Mark Normand?

  Matt Dillon.

• 1:23:37Sam Morril?

  Right.

• 1:23:37Speaker 01

  He rearranged your salt?

• 1:23:39Mark Normand?

  No, not mine. He sat down at a different table. Rearranged, it was in the, it was on Avenue A, I remember. And he rearranged everything.

• 1:23:45Sam Morril?

  Falling in hard times, he's waiting tables now.

• 1:23:46Speaker 01

  This didn't happen, did it?

• 1:23:47Sam Morril?

  No.

• 1:23:48Mark Normand?

  No, I swear to God. This is like 10, 12 years ago. He just went in there alone, rearranged some shit, didn't like it, went to another table.

• 1:23:55Sam Morril?

  He must be OCD.

• 1:23:56Mark Normand?

  He must be OCD.

• 1:23:57Sam Morril?

  Well.

• 1:23:57Mark Normand?

  Give that a go, but, or he was on something, but he didn't like that sugar packet.

• 1:24:02Sam Morril?

  Him and something about Mary is, that's like peak comedy.

• 1:24:06Speaker 01

  He's great in that.

• 1:24:07Mark Normand?

  So good.

• 1:24:08Speaker 01

  When he gets his teeth done.

• 1:24:09Mark Normand?

  Yes, yes.

• 1:24:10Speaker 01

  You know?

• 1:24:11Mark Normand?

  Oh, yeah, mango.

• 1:24:12Speaker 01

  You know I love that, because I love big teeth.

• 1:24:15Mark Normand?

  Oh, there you go.

• 1:24:16Speaker 01

  You guys know I love it.

• 1:24:16Mark Normand?

  Good call, good call, yeah. Forgot about the teeth.

• 1:24:19Speaker 01

  We're learning about each other here.

• 1:24:20Sam Morril?

  He does not have OCD, apparently.

• 1:24:21Mark Normand?

  Okay, well, maybe he was, uh, high on smack. Something was going on.

• 1:24:26Sam Morril?

  Goldie Hawn, fucking Matt Dillon, what are you doing to us here?

• 1:24:29Mark Normand?

  What did he do when he started doing smack?

• 1:24:31Speaker 01

  Way to take a grand leap about what he was doing.

• 1:24:34Mark Normand?

  Call in, Matt, if you don't mind. Not on drugs, all right. Oh, we gotta go, okay, okay.

• 1:24:39Speaker 01

  Oh, I gotta go, oh, I'm having so much fun.

• 1:24:41Sam Morril?

  Yeah, it's been such a good episode, thanks for, are there tour dates coming yet?

• 1:24:45Speaker 01

  No, don't worry about that. I mean, if you want to see us, come, Google it, you know? I came here for the chat.

• 1:24:51Sam Morril?

  Well, dude, such a pleasure to meet you. This was awesome, and the new album is truly awesome.

• 1:24:55Mark Normand?

  Very good.

• 1:24:56Sam Morril?

  Like, I love, it goes low, it goes high, it's so, it's so, and I, first three songs are all like, you know, kind of like dark relationship songs. I love them, they're so cool.

• 1:25:04Mark Normand?

  Moody shit.

• 1:25:05Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's definitely moody.

• 1:25:07Sam Morril?

  Yeah, no, we'll plug, we'll plug when he leaves, you gotta go, so.

• 1:25:09Speaker 01

  Yeah, but thank you for having me, I appreciate it.

• 1:25:11Mark Normand?

  You're the band, Josh, thank you.

• 1:25:13Speaker 01

  Cheers.

• 1:25:13Mark Normand?

  Sorry about the scorpion.

• 1:25:15Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:25:16Mark Normand?

  Changed my life. Hey, hey, folks, come on out to Regina. Casino Regina, two shows. Add of the second, Calgary, baby, at the Laugh Shop. Or Laugh Stop? Uh-oh. Shop, I had it right, I shouldn't have second guessed myself. Club Regent at the Event Center, Acme Comedy Club in Minneapolis. Love that club, Comedy Works Downtown, baby. And then maybe Comedy on State in Wisconsin, Madison, but we'll see about the movie.

• 1:25:48Sam Morril?

  Pardon?

• 1:25:50Mark Normand?

  Portland, probably with the movie, we'll see. Uh, Cap City Comedy Club, Tropicana Showroom at Atlantic City, Wind Creek, Vincent in Bethlehem, PA, Palazzo Theater, Charlotte at the Comedy Zone. And Grand Cedar Showroom at Foxwoods in Connecticut, and Comedy Mothership. So, get a bottle of Bodega Cat.

• 1:26:13Sam Morril?

  Got Athens, Greece, Budapest, Zagreb, Vienna, Warsaw, Helsinki, Stockholm, Copenhagen, then we got Nashville. Uh, we got San Diego, I added a bunch of stuff here, we got, uh, Phoenix just added for November. We got, uh, Pittsburgh Improv for November, we got Cleveland, Ohio in December, Madison, Wisconsin, December. Uh, Baltimore area, December 17th through 19th, and I just added some stuff for the new year. Doral, Florida, Miami Improv, the, uh, West Palm Improv. Jacksonville, Florida, never played the Comedy Zone there. Calgary, Calgary, Alberta, Columbus, Ohio, all just on sale now. Uh, did I say Columbus, Hartford, and, uh, one other.

• 1:26:59Sam Morril?

  Addison Improv, there we go, Dallas, so a ton of stuff. Punchup.live/marknorman/tour, punchup.live/samorrell. You can get our tour dates there or on our website, whatever's easier. Drink some Bodega Cat whiskey. Uh, DM us for whatever you can do, uh, did I give you the wrong thing?

• 1:27:17Mark Normand?

  Uh-oh.

• 1:27:18Sam Morril?

  Uh, drink some Bodega Cat whiskey.

• 1:27:20Mark Normand?

  Yeah, baby!

• 1:27:21Sam Morril?

  And, uh, DM Bodega Cat.

• 1:27:24Mark Normand?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:27:24Sam Morril?

  Oh, by the way, Cobb's Comedy Club, selling it?

• 1:27:26Mark Normand?

  We sold a ton last weekend. I mean, the clubs are the way to go. I'm in Houston this weekend, we're gonna sell a ton there, we're all sold out.

• 1:27:33Sam Morril?

  Amazing, so, uh, yeah, DM us if you wanted it at your bar, club, whatever. Uh, Bodega Cat Whiskey on Instagram.

• 1:27:40Mark Normand?

  Yes.

• 1:27:40Sam Morril?

  You guys are the best. See you soon.

• 1:27:43Mark Normand?

  Comedy.

• 1:27:44Speaker 05

  Sunday's the day for my next offender. A bit of Pivac, you know the future's close. I've had a little too much bourbon, and Norman's talking shit about the fucking Pope. And I get down in the same way. Up on the roof like a cop's coming, and naked Samuel is feeling dangerous. I'm out to lunch here in New Orleans, this woman doesn't look like I remember her. And I get down in the same way. We might be true.

• 1:28:30Speaker 06

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