Samsung Galaxy Unpacked: No Peeking!

This week, it's all about the Samsung Galaxy S26 lineup! Until it isn't. After Marques, Andrew, and David discuss everything about the new phones, they dig into the Nothing 4a teaser video and new MacBook rumors. Then, Marques gives his weekly winter weather update (along with a new app suggestion). Of course, we wrap it all up with trivia where people actually get points this time! Enjoy. Shop the merch: https://shop.mkbhd.com Links: MKBHD - S26 Impressions video Becca Farsace - S26 short Snazzy Labs - MacBook Pro video Snazzy Labs - Cloth Pro Max Music provided by: Epidemic Sound This episode brought to you by: Shopify: https://www.shopify.com/waveform Social: Waveform Threads: https://www.threads.net/@waveformpodcast Waveform Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/waveformpodcast/?hl=en Waveform TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@waveformpodcast Hosts: Marques: https://www.threads.net/@mkbhd Andrew: https://www.threads.net/@andrew_manganelli David: https://www.threads.net/@davidimel Adam: https://www.threads.net/@parmesanpapi17 Ellis: https://twitter.com/EllisRovin Join the Discord: https://discord.gg/mkbhd Intro/Outro music by 20syl: https://bit.ly/2S53xlC Waveform is part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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• 0:00Andrew Manganelli?

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• 1:20Speaker 02

  It's just like, what's the point of knowing what the weather is where you are? I need to know what it's going to be. Go outside. I can't go outside. Casual.

• 1:29Andrew Manganelli?

  Can't you link up with other people, and then if you get enough people in a localized region?

• 1:35Speaker 02

  How does that tell you what it's gonna be?

• 1:36Andrew Manganelli?

  Because then when it's coming from the west, my homies to the west are feeding the information, my weather homies.

• 1:47Speaker 01

  Yo, what is up, people of the internet? Welcome back to another episode of the Waveform Podcast. We're your hosts, I'm Marquez.

• 1:52Andrew Manganelli?

  I'm Andrew.

• 1:53Speaker 02

  And I'm David.

• 1:54Speaker 01

  It is Friday again, just so you know. So, those of you who watched the last episode, if you didn't, it wasn't a Friday, but now we're back to our regularly scheduled programming.

• 2:02Andrew Manganelli?

  I know how everyone else feels, because it's actually Wednesday here, and you just said it's Friday, so for us, that's very confusing.

• 2:09Speaker 01

  Right. Yeah, this is just to lock us back in, so people listening know what day it's coming out. The dishes, we're gonna get done, anyway. Today's episode, we've got Samsung Galaxy S26 official unveil, we've got Nothing Phone 4A partial official unveil, and we've got some weather talk. But first.

• 2:29David Imel?

  There was a blizzard.

• 2:30Speaker 01

  Yeah, but first, we're doing South by Southwest again. It's happening again. So for those of you who don't know, or if you're new here, last year, we did our first ever live waveform podcast in front of a in-person studio audience. We did it at South by Southwest in Austin, Texas in the spring, and it was a lot of fun. And we got invited back to do it again, and we're gonna do it again. So if those of you who are like on the fence about going to South by, or if you're already gonna be there, we'll see you there. We'll try to put the official, do we know the time slot?

• 3:01Speaker 04

  10 a.m. Friday, March 13th, 10 a.m. Vox stage.

• 3:06Speaker 01

  We're doing this on a Friday the 13th.

• 3:08Speaker 04

  There's two Friday the 13th in a row. There's one in February and March.

• 3:11David Imel?

  That's good luck, right?

• 3:13Speaker 01

  Yeah, for us.

• 3:14Speaker 04

  Double negative.

• 3:14Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 3:15Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 3:16Speaker 01

  So, okay, so the second Friday the 13th in a row, we're gonna be onstage at 10 a.m. in Texas, on the stage, doing podcast things.

• 3:24David Imel?

  Come say hi.

• 3:24Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 3:25David Imel?

  Ellis will run up and down the aisles again, and it will be beautiful. And I'll trip up the stage.

• 3:31Speaker 04

  If there's one thing I know to be true, it is that Ellis will be running up and down the aisles.

• 3:34Speaker 01

  That's right. It was genuinely really fun last time engaging with you guys. We had a Q and A section. We had some more engaging back and forth with people in the audience. It was fun, so we're gonna do some of that again.

• 3:43Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 3:43Speaker 01

  It'll be fun.

• 3:43David Imel?

  It'll be fun.

• 3:44Speaker 01

  All right. We have a new, did they even test this? I hear it's Adam's turn.

• 3:49Speaker 04

  It's my turn, okay. Finally. I have been waiting for this moment.

• 3:53Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 3:54Speaker 04

  So, on WhatsApp, I use, I have a group chat with my friends, and we send each other mainly voice messages, because we have like long updates. So every once in a while, you'll just see like a 10-minute message. And it's like, all right, like, next time I'm commuting home or on the subway, and I have like 10 minutes, I'll just, you know, just listen to this short little podcast.

• 4:14Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 4:14Speaker 04

  So I'll press play, and then it'll just like pause randomly when I put the phone back in my pocket. So for the longest time, I have to press play on the voice message and make sure that it's still on the message before I put the screen to sleep. And then I can put the phone in my pocket. And I thought this was a Pixel or an Android bug. Turns out, I think it's just a Pixel bug. Because the other day, I was using the S25 Edge I borrowed from the office just to play around. And I was leaving a voice or listening to a voice message as usual and fully expecting to have to do this like weird thing where

• 4:53Speaker 04

  I put the screen to sleep before I put in my pocket because the proximity sensor like messes up what it thinks is happening and everything. And it just worked perfectly on the S25 Edge. So I think this is a Pixel issue specifically where

• 5:09Speaker 01

  It like flipped to hush?

• 5:10Speaker 04

  Yeah, like the proximity sensor just gets messed up. And even if I'm wearing headphones, it'll just like stop playing or it'll start playing through like the earpiece of the phone instead of like,

• 5:19Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 5:19Speaker 04

  It's very, very annoying, very weird.

• 5:21Speaker 01

  So it doesn't just stop, it just plays through another source?

• 5:24Speaker 04

  It plays through another source, like it thinks that, yeah.

• 5:27Andrew Manganelli?

  Weirder than just stopping.

• 5:28Speaker 01

  That's weird.

• 5:30Speaker 04

  Like I'll press play, put the phone in my pocket. And instead of playing through my headphones, like it normally just was, it'll start coming out of the earpiece on the phone. Very weird. So I'm just wondering if they even tested this.

• 5:42Speaker 01

  Well, they probably didn't.

• 5:43David Imel?

  They probably didn't test it on a Pixel.

• 5:44Speaker 01

  Yeah, WhatsApp those messages on the Pixel.

• 5:47Speaker 04

  Yeah, I don't know whose fault this is, Pixel, Android, WhatsApp, there's many people.

• 5:50Speaker 01

  I'm happy to blame Meta.

• 5:51Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 5:51Speaker 01

  If you want to just, I'm always happy to blame.

• 5:53Speaker 04

  Yeah, it could be Meta's fault. I was like deep in the forums and everyone was like, this is the only hack that works and this has been happening for months.

• 6:00Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 6:01Speaker 04

  But like leave it on the screen where the message is playing, put the screen to sleep. And then when you put in your pocket, the proximity sensor won't mess up.

• 6:08Andrew Manganelli?

  What do you think most people blame in a scenario like this?

• 6:12Speaker 01

  The app maker.

• 6:12Andrew Manganelli?

  The app maker, right?

• 6:13Speaker 04

  Yeah, probably the app maker.

• 6:14Andrew Manganelli?

  I think that's true. So like the app maker kind of has to fix the issues, even if it's potentially from a different phone because they're going to be the ones.

• 6:21Speaker 01

  Yeah, if it's like a settings issue or like a feature of the phone and people are smart enough to blame the phone maker, but if it's just an app maker, that's easy to just be like, fix your app.

• 6:30David Imel?

  WhatsApp with that.

• 6:31Speaker 01

  Hmm, crazy.

• 6:33Andrew Manganelli?

  All right, WhatsApp, if you're listening, fix it.

• 6:36Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 6:36Andrew Manganelli?

  Adam, have that Slack issue fixed itself yet?

• 6:38Speaker 02

  WhatsApp is a meta product. I thought you were just randomly bringing it. It was like same here, bro.

• 6:43Speaker 01

  I mean, for any, every other reason as well, but yeah, it's a meta product. So now we have two on the board. The Slack thing is not fixed, I assume.

• 6:50Andrew Manganelli?

  Uh, no. I also, people said they liked the segment. No one said they had the same issue in Slack. So I'm really wondering if it's, it feels like just you.

• 6:57Speaker 01

  Well, I have, I pulled up and also had the same thing.

• 7:00Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah.

• 7:00Speaker 01

  Well, remember last time I did this and I was like, oh, I have this thing that unlocks my front door. And it's crazy that they don't have a widget. And then the next week they were like, David, we made you a widget. And now it's a feature. And I'm like, well, I can't complain anymore, I guess. I don't have anything else.

• 7:14Andrew Manganelli?

  There was one person who commented, I'm starting my Slack internship this summer. This is the first thing I'll bring up.

• 7:21Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 7:21Andrew Manganelli?

  So.

• 7:22Speaker 01

  Big summer project. Fixing that icon. Yeah. Sick. All right. Well, we did get a new Samsung Galaxy S26s. And for video viewers, you can see I'm holding the S26 Ultra. You might not have been able to tell that it's an S26 Ultra because it looks exactly like an S25 Plus. But I promise this is the Ultra. It's the new violet color.

• 7:43Andrew Manganelli?

  Violet?

• 7:44Speaker 01

  Yeah. Or it had like a two word name.

• 7:46Andrew Manganelli?

  That feels blue to me.

• 7:47Speaker 01

  Something violet.

• 7:48Andrew Manganelli?

  Cobalt violet?

• 7:49Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's what it is. Cobalt violet. One of the new, what? Shiny colors.

• 7:54Andrew Manganelli?

  Violet, you're turning violet. Two colors now?

• 7:56Speaker 01

  Yeah, cobalt violet.

• 7:57Andrew Manganelli?

  Cobalt violet?

• 7:58Speaker 01

  Anyway, yeah. So we, we know all the things now. We all, all the specs, all the features of S26, S26 Plus and S26 Ultra. Quick story.

• 8:06Andrew Manganelli?

  Hmm.

• 8:08Speaker 01

  I didn't get to go to the event.

• 8:11Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah.

• 8:11Speaker 01

  So here's the thing. Here's the thing, uh, maybe a little inside baseball, but for those of you who are also tech YouTubers, you know about this. So Samsung, when they're coming out with a new phone, for example, will first, uh, reach out to all of the tech media, whoever it is and go, hey, we've got something to share with you. We have a briefing slot for you and we have a content capture slot for you in this nearby city. And, you know, we kind of have read the rumors. We've deduced, we kind of figure out what it is and we'll go, oh, okay. Yeah, this is going to be S25. And we'll go, okay, we go on the briefing. They'll explain all the features and specs and price and we can answer any questions. And then we'll go to a content capture session. So if you're a video creator or a social media creator, whatever it is, you have time to get hands on and make your video.

• 8:56Speaker 01

  And that's what you'll see all the YouTubers publish at embargo time or when the official announcement goes out, right? They've had one in New York many times. They've had one, I'm assuming, in California many times. I think there's usually one in London somewhere many times. So that creators from all over the world can just sort of fly to these local places. And then, lastly, they'll have Unpacked. And then Unpacked is their big event where they'll do the whole unveiling for everyone else in the public to see. And they always ask us to go to Unpacked, but I don't know. By the time I've made my video, there's nothing really more for me to see at Unpacked. So I typically don't actually go to Unpacked.

• 9:31Andrew Manganelli?

  Well, that also, that always hasn't been the case of the briefing right before. And then it's weird, the embargo coming out at the same time as the event. So our video is totally made by the time the event comes, so it's like, what else is the event for?

• 9:45Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 9:47Andrew Manganelli?

  That always hasn't been the case, but it has been lately.

• 9:49Speaker 01

  I've gone to Unpacked a few times and been like sitting in the audience waiting for the event to start and published my video from the seat at the event, which is like, they've done it almost like that, like the same time. So, but lately, they've just been like, please come to Unpacked, please come to Unpacked. And, but also, here's all the stuff ahead of time, so maybe you don't have to go to Unpacked. This year, they're like, yeah, there's no content capture sessions anywhere. You have to go to Unpacked to do your content capture session. I said, all right, I guess I'm going to Unpacked this year. It's in California. And then we get two feet of snow and it shuts down two straight days of flights. And I booked and rebooked and rebooked and rebooked and had two straight days of flights canceled. And I just literally couldn't go. Brandon did go because he flew out of a less snowy city and he was actually able to get there.

• 10:33Speaker 01

  So he shot a bunch of footage out there while I got the footage back here. I got my briefing still. I got to combine all of my information and the footage. And so I've seen the phones and I make the video. And the video still goes live at the usual time. But yeah, that's sort of backfired where Samsung like finally got me to go to Unpacked. And then the Blizzard was like, nah, it's not gonna happen.

• 10:58Andrew Manganelli?

  Can you tell the story of the phone arriving this morning?

• 11:01Speaker 01

  Oh yeah. So then, you know, Unpacked, you also are supposed to, you know, pick up the review device so I can make my review. And since I'm not there, I said, Samsung, can you ship it to the studio? I said, sure, yeah, we'll ship it to the studio. It'll arrive on Wednesday, which is today. So I'm editing this video this morning of the, you know, Brandon's footage and putting this whole video together. And I get like a knock on the door and the door slides open in the studio and there's a guy standing out of breath, holding a huge pink bag in his hand like,

• 11:33Speaker 01

  this is you? And he's points at the bag and it's got a label on it. And I'm like, what? I assume this is not for me. He's got to have the wrong address. But I go, yeah, can I like, maybe help you find the right place? And I look and sure enough, it is our address. It says MKBHD, it says our suite and everything. And I go, oh, okay. Yeah. No, this is for me. So I signed for it. And he goes, sign, write your name. And I signed and wrote my name. And then he dipped and that was it. And I opened the huge pink box and there's a smaller UPS box inside. I opened that box and it's the Samsung Galaxy S26. Was he out of breath because it was like by 10am? He was out of breath because he was like a courier, like a local service courier.

• 12:14Speaker 01

  So maybe he was like stressed and trying to get it here on time or something. Maybe he had a deadline, but he definitely was out of breath.

• 12:21Andrew Manganelli?

  He was in shorts and a t-shirt and boots. There's a lot of snow outside. It felt like he ran here.

• 12:29Speaker 01

  He probably sprinted through mounds of snow to get here on time.

• 12:32Andrew Manganelli?

  I don't.

• 12:32Speaker 01

  A fix outfit.

• 12:33Andrew Manganelli?

  Also, I don't think you're understanding how big the pink bag was that he came. It was like gigantic. It was like four feet tall. Yeah. And like this huge zip around the middle of it. So it just really didn't make any sense. Yeah, it's outside. We can take a picture and put it on the pod. It made no sense.

• 12:50Speaker 01

  I was like, this cannot possibly be for me.

• 12:52Andrew Manganelli?

  Tim and I were getting water in like the lobby and saw him walk in and I was just like, what is going on? And then we walked back and he's in the office talking.

• 13:01Speaker 01

  So it's just for the phone and the buds? Yep. Just for the phone. Just the phone. That's crazy. Yeah. But yeah, now we have it here. So shout out to that guy. Cause now we have the phone and we can talk about it in person. And I want to issue my disappointment to Samsung. Whoa. Okay. Is this for all the phones? No, just for the Ultra. Oh, okay. They're just, they've just slowly made the Ultra look just more and more like the Plus. And, you know, I understand that when it was like really sharp edges, maybe that

• 13:26David Imel?

  Was like not the best for your pockets. I get that. But I feel like the more aggressive design was very much like it's ultra. It's the ultra. The S21 Ultra is the best designed of all of them. I just kind of put that out there.

• 13:39Speaker 01

  So I'll just run through real quick so people know what's new or different about this Ultra. Cause you're totally right and I have a lot of the same thoughts.

• 13:45David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 13:45Speaker 01

  First of all, they slightly changed the design. It's a tiny bit thinner. It's a tiny bit more rounded, so it's a little bit less square.

• 13:52David Imel?

  Gets a little more rounded.

• 13:53Speaker 01

  They updated the camera rings to now also have this like plateau around them, kind of like the rest of the S series lineup. And they switched back from titanium to aluminum rails.

• 14:06David Imel?

  That's what everyone's doing.

• 14:07Speaker 01

  Everyone's like, oh, it's bad.

• 14:09Andrew Manganelli?

  I don't think other phones have had that plateau.

• 14:11Speaker 01

  The, the base phones, or sorry, not the base phones, the fold. The folds have had this.

• 14:16Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah.

• 14:16Speaker 01

  Yes. And now the whole lineup has this. So now they all look the same as, as David was saying. And yeah, there are like a couple of new colors. And there's still $1,300. Still has the S pen, still has the bright screen on the front. And the one big, interesting new feature is on the display, which is kind of insanely complicated. I'm still trying to wrap my head around how they did this, but it's the privacy, privacy display feature. Which is, okay, video viewers are going to see this in person. You can clearly see like the viewing angles of the screen are pretty good normally. But you've seen those like privacy screen protectors people put on their phone sometimes where if you put it at an angle, it's pitch black.

• 14:55Speaker 01

  Those are kind of annoying because they like ruin your screen usually. And also you have to take it off if you get annoyed by it. This is built into the phone. You can turn on privacy display. And now when I tilt it off axis, it blacks out the phone. And this works from vertical axis, horizontal axis. It's very effective and not only is it very effective, but you can customize exactly how it works. So you can have it blackout the whole display or you can have it only blackout certain apps. You can choose those apps or you can only have it blackout password fields and notifications if you want. Like it's very specific to.

• 15:35Andrew Manganelli?

  Can you do the password fields? I swear I remember them showing a thing for that, but I don't remember them showing it in the event.

• 15:41Speaker 01

  So password fields, it says PIN, pattern and password. That's just lock screen and settings and secure folder. So it's not in a bunch of other apps, but if you just blackout your whole banking app, like that's probably.

• 15:52Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah, you should do that.

• 15:54Speaker 01

  So yeah, that it seems to work incredibly well. It only dims the display a little bit when I turn it on. That's, it's really good.

• 16:02David Imel?

  Yeah, it seems like they're doing it by directing the light only directly up out of the screen instead of letting it kind of emit.

• 16:09Andrew Manganelli?

  Almost like a, like a pair of washers over each individual picture, pixels that like goes higher to narrow the width of the light.

• 16:19Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's a cool idea.

• 16:20Andrew Manganelli?

  Really cool. I want to like see, you probably can't see it up close because it's, think of that on every single pixel.

• 16:26David Imel?

  And that you can like turn it on and off is very cool.

• 16:29Andrew Manganelli?

  That, well, yeah, I guess. So then they come back down all the way to the bottom. So it doesn't interrupt the width of the light emitting. So it raises, but like the little animation they showed was like, oh, there's just, everyone's got an animation for everything. Like the Fort Knox animations 800 times, like this means nothing. But this I was watching, I was like, oh, wait, that's really, really cool.

• 16:51Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 16:52Andrew Manganelli?

  And I wish I could see like the mechanical aspect of it.

• 16:55Speaker 04

  Yeah, it seems to be hardware, right?

• 16:56Speaker 01

  It's hardware.

• 16:57David Imel?

  It's display innovation.

• 16:58Speaker 04

  When you turn it on, do you feel like something moving inside? Like, how does that even work?

• 17:03Speaker 01

  So essentially Samsung.

• 17:06David Imel?

  I thought you were kidding.

• 17:07Speaker 01

  Samsung, I was waiting to see the, how they explained it in the keynote because my briefing didn't have a lot of technical information on how exactly they're achieving this, but the way they seem to describe it in the keynote is they have, half of the pixels are regular wide emitting light pixels and half of the pixels have this sort of a focusing hardware on them. I don't know if it's hardware, lenses or whatever, where they are very narrow emitting just forward. And so when you've turned this feature on, all of the wide emitting pixels turn off because it's an OLED and you're just left with the narrow emitting pixels.

• 17:44Andrew Manganelli?

  So it's not all pixels that have this like screen over it?

• 17:47Speaker 01

  Right.

• 17:47Andrew Manganelli?

  It's just the random.

• 17:48Speaker 01

  It's half of them.

• 17:48Andrew Manganelli?

  Got it.

• 17:49Speaker 01

  And so if you have those, just those narrow emitting pixels on, I assumed I would see a big hit to screen brightness and I'm sure maximum brightness is lower, but it still looks totally fine when I look straight at it. And yeah, then you can customize like which pixels turn on and off. So if you just have a notification come in, you can just turn those narrow pixels on and it'll leave the rest as wide emitting pixels.

• 18:08Andrew Manganelli?

  Does that mean your, your resolution is worse when it's on?

• 18:11Speaker 01

  Yes. Yes.

• 18:12Andrew Manganelli?

  I didn't think of that.

• 18:13Speaker 01

  So half your pixels are off, so half your resolution is gone.

• 18:16Andrew Manganelli?

  And all of them are on when it's, when the privacy protector is off?

• 18:20Speaker 01

  Correct.

• 18:20Andrew Manganelli?

  So it's using the narrow and the wide ones normally?

• 18:24Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 18:24Andrew Manganelli?

  Huh, that's really cool. I guess if you're somebody who really wants just privacy on some things, then you don't really, no one cares if they have 4K Bank of America app open, I guess, but um.

• 18:36Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 18:37Andrew Manganelli?

  So you do lose, I wonder what the resolution is, it's just.

• 18:40Speaker 01

  So the resolution is the same, it's still a 1440p display when it's maxed out. So yeah, it's theoretically half, half your pixel density is gone. And I mean, I'm looking at it like really up close because I maxed out the screen resolution right away and I turn it on and yes, it does get a little bit more pixelated.

• 18:58Andrew Manganelli?

  From this angle is crazy because I saw you looking at it and then when you turned it on, it just went black.

• 19:02Speaker 01

  Blacked out. That's hilarious. Perfect angle. Yeah, I, I don't mind that resolution loss for that feature.

• 19:09Andrew Manganelli?

  You should show Ellis the, uh, because I think you missed that part of the event where like a notification comes up and just the notification is like black. You did see it?

• 19:17Speaker 01

  That's cool.

• 19:18Andrew Manganelli?

  That is like. One of the cooler demos I've seen in a while.

• 19:22David Imel?

  I, yeah. I mean, they used a lot of the keynote talking about that for sure. It was the first thing that they talked about during the keynote, so.

• 19:29Speaker 01

  So to Samsung's credit, and they've done like a bunch of crazy display innovations in the past. They've done the Note, they've done the Galaxy Mega, they've done the Galaxy Round, they've done the Trifold, the regular fold. They've done a lot of crazy screen stuff, so this is right up Samsung's alley. But also to your point, David, the rest of this phone feels less unique than ever before.

• 19:47David Imel?

  Yeah, for sure.

• 19:48Speaker 01

  And I think my review, I feel like I have to say it feels less like an Ultra than ever before.

• 19:52David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 19:53Speaker 01

  It does have a S Pen, but it's kind of just like a.

• 19:55David Imel?

  They took away the Bluetooth in the S Pen.

• 19:57Speaker 01

  It's like a bigger S26 Plus.

• 19:59Andrew Manganelli?

  I think to David's point, like the boxier display, like it still all kind of felt like a Note to us, right? Like it felt like the Note was just released at the same time and they called it Ultra. Now this just feels like an S26 lineup, yeah, like plus plus or yeah.

• 20:14David Imel?

  I mean, my theory is like last year for Q1 2025, of all the Samsung folds, of all the Samsung phones sold, the S25 was the third highest selling with the two before it being the cheap phones, like the pay as you go phones, which sell a crazy amount. And so I think that they probably just want to make the Ultra more appealable to more people and seem less aggressive so that more people are like content with it.

• 20:37Speaker 01

  It's really interesting.

• 20:37David Imel?

  Because everyone in the United States, not everyone in the United States, but a large chunk of the United States just buys phones through carriers anyway on carrier plans.

• 20:45Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 20:45David Imel?

  And so most of these companies are selling the most expensive phone to the most people. So at least in the United States. The iPhone 16 apparently did sell more than the 16 Pro Max in the Q1 of 2025, but the Pro Max is always near the top.

• 20:58Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 20:58David Imel?

  So I don't know, I'm assuming they're just trying to sort of like make it a little more simple so it appeals to more people.

• 21:04Speaker 01

  Well, you know, they also narrowed the difference in price between the base phone and the Max or the Ultra.

• 21:09David Imel?

  This is, yeah. Did they at least raise the storage?

• 21:13Speaker 01

  So they did, so.

• 21:14David Imel?

  Cause iPhone did this too.

• 21:15Speaker 01

  Yeah, so last year, S25 was $799.

• 21:21Speaker 01

  Right?

• 21:22Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sorry. I got confused, I think. This, they, technically, the S25 is the same price without the 128 gig option, right?

• 21:31Speaker 01

  Which is exactly, they keep doing this.

• 21:32Andrew Manganelli?

  But it didn't Apple-

• 21:33Speaker 01

  They're like the third company to do this.

• 21:34Andrew Manganelli?

  Apple's this was the same price as the year before, but you just got-

• 21:38Speaker 01

  For more storage.

• 21:39Andrew Manganelli?

  The more storage. That's what Samsung should have done.

• 21:41Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 21:41Andrew Manganelli?

  Samsung just took away a cheaper option.

• 21:45Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 21:45Andrew Manganelli?

  And kind of like played it off with like, well, you get more storage. It's like, yeah, but you could have gotten that same phone for the same price.

• 21:51Speaker 01

  Yeah, so there is no-

• 21:52Speaker 04

  Storage is crazy, right?

• 21:53Speaker 01

  Storage is like half the cost of a phone. So there is no 128 gig version of the, of the S26 at all. It starts at 256 gigs.

• 22:00Andrew Manganelli?

  Okay.

• 22:00Speaker 01

  And that phone is, is nine, is eight, is $900.

• 22:05Andrew Manganelli?

  $899 for the regular one?

• 22:07Speaker 01

  Regular S26.

• 22:08Andrew Manganelli?

  Whoa.

• 22:08Speaker 04

  That's garbage.

• 22:09Speaker 01

  So then it's 256 gig, $1,100 for the S26 Plus.

• 22:14Andrew Manganelli?

  No way!

• 22:15Speaker 01

  $1,100. And then it's $1,300 for the Ultra.

• 22:17Andrew Manganelli?

  That's crazy.

• 22:18Speaker 01

  So, yeah, they've, they're all expensive phones. And when you look at what other phone companies are calling Ultra with these crazy fast charging, like silicon carbide batteries and these massive display and camera arrangements, like all these insane features that they're doing, this doesn't feel as much like an Ultra phone, like the way those do.

• 22:38Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah.

• 22:39Speaker 01

  You know?

• 22:39Andrew Manganelli?

  They're really trying to sell the Ultra though, because when you go to samsung.com and you go to shop, it just lists Galaxy S26 Ultra. And then from there, when you go to that page, you can, you can pick Galaxy S26. It's way, and it's like a tab on the top that's really easy to miss.

• 22:54Speaker 01

  It's like, you're gonna buy the Ultra.

• 22:55Andrew Manganelli?

  You're gonna buy the Ultra.

• 22:56Speaker 04

  Wait, does the, do the regular ones come with the privacy screen, or is that an Ultra feature?

• 23:00Speaker 01

  Nope.

• 23:00Andrew Manganelli?

  Ultra feature.

• 23:00Speaker 04

  That's only Ultra?

• 23:01Andrew Manganelli?

  Hmm. So the 26 and 26 Plus is-

• 23:04Speaker 04

  They're the same phone.

• 23:05Andrew Manganelli?

  It's the same.

• 23:05Speaker 01

  And they're kind of terrible deals compared to like the Pixel and the iPhone. And they, those phones really didn't change much. Like, I think the ba, the battery went from 4,000 to 4,300 on the base. Otherwise, it's like same phones, same cameras, slightly different design, mostly everything else is the same.

• 23:22Andrew Manganelli?

  The most boring looking phone I've ever seen in my life.

• 23:25Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 23:25Andrew Manganelli?

  Good third generic standard phone. It's honestly not even a, it's not, Pixel isn't even a better deal because Pixel 10 is 800, but that's at 128.

• 23:35Speaker 01

  Inside there are two wolves.

• 23:36Andrew Manganelli?

  So it's 256, you're at the same price.

• 23:38Speaker 01

  Yeah. You're either the S26 Standard Edition, or you're the Trifold. The two wolves of Samsung.

• 23:46Andrew Manganelli?

  The Ultra. All you needed, all you needed to do, if the S26 Ultra comes out with the privacy screen, Qi2, and like a silicon carbon battery, it's like phone of the year, right off the

• 24:00Speaker 01

  Relax, that's true.

• 24:01Andrew Manganelli?

  What a bad your phone, what an actual upgrade. Instead, they're like,

• 24:04Speaker 01

  Kind of ugly though.

• 24:05Andrew Manganelli?

  Hey, here's a pretty cool thing. Let's give you that, nothing else, and just yap about AI slop for a while.

• 24:10Speaker 01

  Didn't you say they would have, you, you thought it would have magnets?

• 24:13David Imel?

  I do have to issue an apology to all our listeners.

• 24:16Speaker 01

  We thought it would have.

• 24:17David Imel?

  We strive for accuracy at this podcast.

• 24:20Andrew Manganelli?

  That was a prediction.

• 24:21David Imel?

  I gave you.

• 24:21Andrew Manganelli?

  A very confident.

• 24:22David Imel?

  Fake news, and I apologize.

• 24:25Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 24:26David Imel?

  But next year, we got it next year.

• 24:28Speaker 01

  Cause we all said it wasn't gonna have magnets.

• 24:30David Imel?

  Well, my uncle works at Samsung, and he said that next year they're gonna have Qi2.

• 24:33Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah, they're gonna, but it's gonna ban you if you don't.

• 24:35Speaker 01

  Yeah. Bixby Stick, or something like that.

• 24:39Speaker 01

  Yeah, speaking of Bixby, you know, a lot of the other features that they talked about with these phones and that are new are software. So a bunch of AI stuff, a bunch of Bixby, a bunch of integrations, Gemini here, perplexity there. A little bit, you know, there's a new, the new Bixby technically, technically LLM powered. It used to be a small language model. Now it's a large language model.

• 24:59Andrew Manganelli?

  Oh.

• 25:00Speaker 01

  So I'm gonna be trying out this new Bixby. So yeah, we'll see how that goes. Um, but yeah, it's just. 10B. They, they managed to import or build their own versions of a lot of the same features that have made Pixel phones, Pixel phones. Like they have call screening now, and they just have a different name for it, but they have like that, they have, um, God, it's like.

• 25:19Andrew Manganelli?

  Nudge, nudge or something?

• 25:20Speaker 01

  Yeah, Now Nudge.

• 25:21Andrew Manganelli?

  Now Nudge.

• 25:22Speaker 01

  Now Nudge, which is essentially Magic Q, which is both meaningless things to say out loud, but it's basically, uh, built into the keyboard. Will give you suggestions of things to type based on the context of the conversation you're having.

• 25:35Andrew Manganelli?

  When they announced that, I was like.

• 25:36Speaker 01

  AI powered.

• 25:37David Imel?

  That for 50 years.

• 25:38Andrew Manganelli?

  I was like, Marquez, is this that thing Google has? And both of us were like, I can't remember the name of it. You looked it up and then I went, I honestly don't know if that's working on my phone, cause either I just don't use it and skip by it all the time, cause it's so useless, or it literally doesn't work.

• 25:52Speaker 01

  Might just not work.

• 25:53Andrew Manganelli?

  I couldn't tell you which one it was.

• 25:55Speaker 01

  Yeah, I hardly use it. It doesn't really work on the Pixel. It's, it's supposed to be a fun Pixel feature. Yeah, it popped up once for me and it was wrong. Unfortunate. So yeah, maybe now nudge will be a little better, maybe.

• 26:07David Imel?

  Now.

• 26:08Speaker 01

  They also have this like image playground thing. I think it's called Creative Studio, where you can like AI generate whatever thing, image you want. Like they had endless AI-generated images as features.

• 26:20David Imel?

  Of cupcakes.

• 26:21Speaker 01

  Basically.

• 26:21Andrew Manganelli?

  What did, I think Allison Johnson posted an article that was like, Samsung is on slop watch for unpacked 2026.

• 26:28Speaker 01

  They called it an AI phone. In all caps, the AI agent.

• 26:33Andrew Manganelli?

  Didn't they call it AIOS? Samsung just invented iOS.

• 26:38Speaker 01

  It's iOS. It's iOS.

• 26:41Speaker 02

  iOS, they invented AIOS. There are other iOSs. Yeah.

• 26:46David Imel?

  Your grammar is wrong. Shouldn't be an and iOS.

• 26:49Speaker 01

  Yeah. It was tough. Yeah, it was tough. So a lot of, you know, you take it or leave it. Some of that stuff I'm sure will trickle down to older phones as well. But if you're, if you're thinking about S26s, you now know that they're very similar to S25s. And then the Ultra has this one sick display feature.

• 27:05David Imel?

  Charges at 60 watts now. That's a big.

• 27:07Speaker 01

  And charges, yes. So the whole lineup charges a little faster than before. 25 watts on the base, 45 watts on the plus, 60 watts on the Ultra.

• 27:15David Imel?

  I wonder if it's, because I remember, this is either the, I think this was the S20 Ultra, when they said it charged at 45 watts, and it only charged at 45 watts for like two minutes.

• 27:24Speaker 01

  This will be similar, I think. It's gonna peak at 60 watts. But I think the stat that's maybe more informative is it's like zero to, or 10 to 80% in half an hour or something like that, which is decent.

• 27:36Andrew Manganelli?

  Can I complain about something that's only for us? In the spec sheet that they sent us for your briefing, the way they described charging is the S26 has super fast charging, the S26 Plus has super fast charging 2.0, and the S26 Ultra has super fast charging 3.0.

• 27:53Speaker 01

  Oh my gosh.

• 27:54Andrew Manganelli?

  No wattage numbers, no numbers.

• 27:56David Imel?

  This is exactly, this is how Apple does it, too.

• 27:59Speaker 01

  I had to get that. They just, they just give you this bad branding without any of the technical.

• 28:03David Imel?

  That same sheet has an option, like it shows all the storage options, and then it says micro SD, not available, not available, not available. Like, why even put it on this?

• 28:14Speaker 01

  Just get rid of that column, guys. Unless they're gonna bring it back, I don't know.

• 28:18David Imel?

  Anyway, um, yeah, it comes in cobalt violet, which I don't know why they called it that.

• 28:24Speaker 02

  That's my favorite Microsoft product.

• 28:28David Imel?

  Cobalt?

• 28:29Speaker 04

  Microsoft Cobalt Violet.

• 28:31David Imel?

  Oh, copilot.

• 28:32Andrew Manganelli?

  I was gonna say Dua Lipa hates that color.

• 28:34David Imel?

  I didn't get it. Thank you for spelling it out. I didn't get it.

• 28:38Speaker 04

  You gonna keep that in the podcast?

• 28:40David Imel?

  Hey, man. You had a lot of bangers last week. You can't win them all, okay? Sky blue, which I did like that color. Black and white, did not like those colors.

• 28:52Speaker 01

  No.

• 28:52David Imel?

  Black is the one.

• 28:54Andrew Manganelli?

  Is... Are there any online exclusive colors?

• 28:56David Imel?

  Yeah, there are. Silver shadow, whatever that means.

• 29:00Andrew Manganelli?

  Wait, that's the exclusive.

• 29:01David Imel?

  It's like gray, basically. And pink gold, also exclusive.

• 29:04Speaker 01

  Not rose gold?

• 29:05David Imel?

  Not rose gold. That's patented.

• 29:06Speaker 01

  Yeah, fair.

• 29:07David Imel?

  That is patented.

• 29:09Speaker 01

  Oh, I almost forgot. How could I forget? Slightly wider apertures in the Ultra's primary and telephoto cameras.

• 29:15Andrew Manganelli?

  Never mind, I'm all in.

• 29:17Speaker 01

  How could I forget?

• 29:18David Imel?

  Yeah, they do have like an action mode now that they had that like straightens the horizon. And Becca did like a short on it, and it actually did look very good. She was able to like rotate the camera like this, and the image stayed like exactly the same. It like did not move at all.

• 29:31Speaker 01

  It's clever. It's similar to what Apple did with the selfie camera on the iPhone, where if you are recording a small enough section of that rectangular sensor, then you can fully stabilize

• 29:43David Imel?

  The center portion.

• 29:44Speaker 01

  The whole thing based on whatever the orientation is. I'm just explaining that poorly, but it's clever and uses the hardware well.

• 29:51Speaker 04

  Marquez, we are locked in because I was about to bring that up, because I was so mad that they did not steal that from Apple.

• 29:57David Imel?

  Yeah, the square sensor.

• 29:58Speaker 04

  Yeah, like, why not? I was just hyping this feature up yesterday to Jess because she was asking me how that selfie feature worked. And I was like, it's so good, I can't wait for everyone to steal it. There's actually an event tomorrow that maybe we'll see what the... And nope, nothing.

• 30:11David Imel?

  No stealing.

• 30:12Speaker 01

  So they didn't do it with the selfie camera, but that one feature of like super, super stabilization horizontal lock allows you to like literally flip your phone upside down and the horizon stays locked because it has that much degrees of stabilization.

• 30:26David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 30:26Speaker 01

  Which is cool.

• 30:26David Imel?

  Well, that's boring, so...

• 30:28Speaker 01

  Samsung phones for you.

• 30:29David Imel?

  We should... Should we do the Nothing phone before we take it to break? Or should we do it after the break?

• 30:34Speaker 01

  Let's save it for after the break.

• 30:35David Imel?

  Okay.

• 30:35Speaker 01

  Yeah. But you know what we should do before the break?

• 30:39Speaker 01

  The MacBook?

• 30:40David Imel?

  Trivia.

• 30:41Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 30:43David Imel?

  Little teaser there.

• 30:44Speaker 01

  Head fake.

• 30:45Speaker 04

  The MacBook.

• 30:46David Imel?

  There's a new, we're gonna talk about a MacBook.

• 30:48Speaker 04

  What?

• 30:48David Imel?

  Later.

• 30:49Speaker 04

  Why is that not in the, in the outline?

• 30:51David Imel?

  It is.

• 30:51Speaker 04

  I have nothing about this MacBook.

• 30:54David Imel?

  You have nothing?

• 30:54Speaker 04

  All right, well, the question.

• 30:56David Imel?

  Ellis hit it.

• 30:57Andrew Manganelli?

  Were you paying attention?

• 30:59David Imel?

  I knew it.

• 30:59Speaker 04

  The most boring keynote of all time? You guys were not paying attention. This whole keynote could have been a press release, but at the end of it, they showed off an expert raw mode feature that ensures efficient and high quality images of underwater coral and fishing stuff when you're swimming or diving in the ocean.

• 31:16David Imel?

  Yes.

• 31:17Speaker 04

  What is it called? And actually, this feature is not new. Apparently, I was looking it up. It was released in S24 Ultra, which is funny.

• 31:24David Imel?

  They just brought it up again?

• 31:25Speaker 04

  They just brought it up again.

• 31:27David Imel?

  I think I remember what they called it.

• 31:28Speaker 01

  That's these companies favorite things to do is to reintroduce a feature as if you're hearing it for the first time.

• 31:33David Imel?

  Yeah, they do that a lot.

• 31:34Andrew Manganelli?

  There's so many times when we're like writing scripts on stuff like that, I have to just go back and check things again and be like, I know in the briefing, they like claimed.

• 31:43David Imel?

  They did put three slides.

• 31:45Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah, and then I'll be like, that happened already.

• 31:47David Imel?

  Yeah, I mean, they showed Circle to Search twice in this one event.

• 31:50Speaker 01

  This is the 40th time they've showed Circle to Search. I swear.

• 31:54David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 31:55Speaker 01

  All right.

• 31:55David Imel?

  Great.

• 31:56Speaker 01

  I think I remember.

• 31:57David Imel?

  We'll think about it.

• 31:58Speaker 01

  Manatee node.

• 31:59David Imel?

  I swear I was paying attention.

• 32:00Andrew Manganelli?

  I, I wasn't. I don't even remember the question Adam asked.

• 32:05David Imel?

  He wasn't even paying attention to this podcast.

• 32:08Speaker 01

  All right.

• 32:08Speaker 02

  Which pixel came in coral?

• 32:12David Imel?

  Oh, that was three.

• 32:13Speaker 04

  In the biz, we call that a callback.

• 32:14David Imel?

  No, three of a sand.

• 32:16Speaker 01

  And so this will be at the end like usual?

• 32:17David Imel?

  Four.

• 32:17Speaker 01

  We'll be right back.

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• 34:40Speaker 01

  All right, welcome back. We gotta talk a whole lot about nothing. I think we've used that joke like 70 times.

• 34:45Speaker 04

  And I will continue to use it.

• 34:47Speaker 01

  That's my bet. I should have done a little, I should have made a better pun. No, it's okay. But the Nothing Phone foray got unveiled, I guess is the word, because they always do like several different unveilings. They showed us the design for the first time. And confirmed exactly one spec because they mentioned the periscope camera. So for those of you who are on the edge of your seat about what type of telephoto lens they'd be using, confirmed, it's a periscope camera. It's a tetraprism lens. Anyway, I think it looks pretty good. It's a, it's desaturated red.

• 35:17Speaker 04

  Understatement of the century.

• 35:18Speaker 01

  You guys seem really into the aesthetics.

• 35:20David Imel?

  I think it's really nice looking.

• 35:22Andrew Manganelli?

  It's the best Nothing.

• 35:23David Imel?

  I think it's the best Nothing.

• 35:24Speaker 01

  Really? Okay, so I think the 2A was probably their best so far. I think it looks as good.

• 35:29Andrew Manganelli?

  This is a better version of the 2A.

• 35:31David Imel?

  It's like less aggressive than the 2A.

• 35:33Speaker 01

  Sure.

• 35:34David Imel?

  And it's desaturated red.

• 35:35Speaker 01

  It's got nice, okay, so the, yeah, it's got a lot, I guess I'll try to describe it. It's got a lot of the same silver, white, and red aesthetic, the clear with the like textures and text underneath. And then it has the glyphs on the top right side, which is just a stack of seven large boxes. I like this part a lot.

• 35:53Andrew Manganelli?

  I do too.

• 35:54Speaker 01

  The bottom most box is red, and then each one of the boxes above it is white. And so they played with different animations of things that they can indicate of whether it's a timer or a notification, where those boxes move and stack. Recording light is the red one blinking. Cool stuff there.

• 36:10Andrew Manganelli?

  Every phone should have a red blinking recording light.

• 36:13Speaker 04

  And the AI glasses. That's what I was thinking watching this. I was like, this is important. I feel like everyone needs this.

• 36:18Andrew Manganelli?

  Even harder to agree on glasses.

• 36:20David Imel?

  The glasses.

• 36:20Andrew Manganelli?

  Every pair of smart glasses, when it's recording, should be blinking red. It's crazy that it's not. I think why I like this better than the 2A is the 2A had the two cameras in a little cutout with a big circle around it, where this is the longer bar, more like a pixel, and the like silver lining around it matches it.

• 36:41David Imel?

  It does give me pixel vibes. It's kind of like Nothing x pixel.

• 36:44Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah.

• 36:44Speaker 04

  It's got the bean.

• 36:45David Imel?

  That's the bean.

• 36:46Andrew Manganelli?

  It's back.

• 36:47David Imel?

  It's got that bean.

• 36:48Speaker 04

  The bean is back.

• 36:49Speaker 01

  Dual cameras. Yeah, it looks, it looks good. It does look good.

• 36:53David Imel?

  I think it looks really good.

• 36:54Andrew Manganelli?

  The LEDs, like you said, are awesome. It's a seven by one vertical to the right side of the camera bar. Bottom one is red. There's some pretty cool ways of like using it. Like if there's a timer on the Nothing Phone 3, that had this stupid little spin the bottle thing, that would be like sand falling into an hourglass.

• 37:14David Imel?

  That was cool.

• 37:15Andrew Manganelli?

  So this is just like slowly, it'll blink at the top and then slowly fall down to the bottom and stack up as a timer.

• 37:22David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 37:22Andrew Manganelli?

  The camera shut, like if you're doing like a camera timer.

• 37:25David Imel?

  Oh, yeah.

• 37:25Andrew Manganelli?

  It'll blink and then when the shutter goes off, yeah, like top and bottom connect like a shutter.

• 37:31David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 37:32Andrew Manganelli?

  It's really awesome. I wish, and this is probably not a wish for, this is, you know, the A series, so the cheaper one, if all of those were different colors.

• 37:41David Imel?

  That'd be crazy.

• 37:42Andrew Manganelli?

  That would be awesome because then my, like we all want with notification LEDs, my emails are blue, my text messages are green, my whatever, like having that, this, I think you can do stuff similar, but you're learning like patterns of how the glyph works.

• 37:56David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 37:57Andrew Manganelli?

  Which is harder.

• 37:58Speaker 04

  Do you guys think this will be cheaper? Cause it is the A, but he also made that announcement.

• 38:03David Imel?

  The blog post about cheaper?

• 38:05Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 38:05David Imel?

  I don't think it'll be cheaper. He made that big blog post a few weeks ago about how all phones are gonna be more expensive this year, so.

• 38:12Andrew Manganelli?

  No, no, I think it'll be cheaper than like the

• 38:13David Imel?

  The 3.

• 38:14Andrew Manganelli?

  The 3 series.

• 38:15David Imel?

  Oh, yeah.

• 38:15Andrew Manganelli?

  Because there will be no 4 series, but that's also in the A series.

• 38:19David Imel?

  Well, they won't be 4 series this year.

• 38:21Andrew Manganelli?

  This year, yeah, sorry.

• 38:22David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 38:22Andrew Manganelli?

  That's true.

• 38:23David Imel?

  Yeah. But, I mean, he made that big blog post about how all phones are gonna get more expensive, which has not really come true yet.

• 38:31Speaker 04

  How much was the 3A when it came out?

• 38:33Andrew Manganelli?

  Which one?

• 38:35David Imel?

  Bam, you're right.

• 38:35Speaker 01

  3A Glow in the Dark Edition?

• 38:37Andrew Manganelli?

  The 3A, the 3A Light or the 3A Pro?

• 38:41David Imel?

  3A was 379.

• 38:43Andrew Manganelli?

  What's the 3A Pro?

• 38:43David Imel?

  What about the CMF Pro Light?

• 38:46Speaker 01

  3A Pro launch price was 459.

• 38:50Andrew Manganelli?

  I think it'll be in between those.

• 38:52Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's about right.

• 38:53David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 38:53Speaker 01

  Like a clean 400, 425?

• 38:56David Imel?

  Do you think they'll launch a 4A Pro?

• 38:57Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 38:58Andrew Manganelli?

  I think if you're not, yeah.

• 39:02Andrew Manganelli?

  I was gonna say, if there's no four series, do you think this is gonna be Nothing's only phone launch of the year?

• 39:06David Imel?

  For the year, that's what they said. I mean, unless they do a pro.

• 39:10Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah.

• 39:11Speaker 01

  I feel like I can also, just based on how they've done this in the past, like, kinda guess the rest of how this phone's gonna go. Like, you can see the triple cameras on the back, right? It's probably going to be a solid Qualcomm mid-range chip. It's probably going to be, it's probably gonna be 120 Hz OLED. Probably 1080 OLED or something at the front. It's probably gonna have this nice quirky Nothing OS with a couple new features in there. Maybe some AI stuff, maybe not. Doesn't seem like they lean into it that much.

• 39:39David Imel?

  A new AI thing, yeah.

• 39:40Speaker 01

  They haven't leaned super, super in like Samsung, but they do have maybe like MindSpace or a couple of things like that. I expect that to happen again.

• 39:47David Imel?

  Essential Space.

• 39:48Speaker 01

  And then, oh yeah, that. And then, yeah, maybe a couple, I mean, average speakers probably, probably some fun

• 39:55Speaker 01

  uh, vibration motor stuff, uh, decent, yeah, I don't think anything else too crazy.

• 40:00David Imel?

  Yeah, they do have that like instant app thing now, where you can describe the app you want and it kinda makes it for you. Whoa, right?

• 40:06Speaker 01

  They have that in the song.

• 40:07David Imel?

  Didn't they do that?

• 40:08Speaker 01

  What?

• 40:09Andrew Manganelli?

  I did not remember that, but the Nothing lineup couldn't be more confusing in my eyes. I'm looking at like their lineup right now and the 3A, the 3A Pro and the 3A Lite are three completely different phones. None of them just look like an offshoot of one of them. Like, if we're talking about how Samsung, you know, the Ultra Plus and Regular all look exactly the same, this is the exact opposite of this. These are three completely different phones.

• 40:34Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's true.

• 40:34David Imel?

  Fairly recently, they released the Essential Apps, which is where you can describe an app or widget and it will, it will make it for you. Apparently, it's pretty limited right now and you can have up to six of them. But I know that some people had played with it and it was like semi-useful for extremely basic things. But for anything, you know, more complicated, it's gonna be a few years down the line.

• 40:56Andrew Manganelli?

  Didn't, I was gonna say, I could see them making any app in their little dot matrix thing because it'd be the easiest thing possible. But didn't they ditch the dot matrix, uh, like whole design vibe?

• 41:09David Imel?

  From the three?

• 41:09Andrew Manganelli?

  I just thought, like, Nothing in general is not doing the, like, I think they're doing dot matrix anymore.

• 41:15David Imel?

  I thought they were still doing that in the software, like their phones still have dots and like boot animations and random things still have dots in there.

• 41:22Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 41:23Andrew Manganelli?

  Is this right? They changed the logo?

• 41:25David Imel?

  There's a cool Essential Apps store you can go to now with the Essential Apps that people have made, where you can try different ones. It is kinda interesting and fun and cool. I think once this gets better and builds out, it'll be more interesting, but...

• 41:38Andrew Manganelli?

  Lot of dots.

• 41:39David Imel?

  They'll probably have that, a lot of dots. Lot of dots. They'll probably have that on this phone, I'm sure. They have a five-second rule one, so I guess you have to start it once you drop something. Tells you whether or not you can eat it or not.

• 41:50Andrew Manganelli?

  This is where we...

• 41:51David Imel?

  Wait, get your phone, get your phone!

• 41:52Andrew Manganelli?

  Wait, don't pick it up off the floor, start the timer on your phone.

• 41:55David Imel?

  But then it's been like 10 seconds by the time you do that. Yeah. Anyway. Um, yes, pretty simple. Unfortunately, today is Wednesday. We're recording on a Wednesday, and tomorrow morning is the time at which everything about this is revealed, so...

• 42:08Andrew Manganelli?

  Uh, no, isn't it next, isn't it March 5th?

• 42:10Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's next week, March 4th.

• 42:11David Imel?

  Nevermind.

• 42:12Andrew Manganelli?

  The day after the Apple event. I actually think they're doing this because they saw, "Oh, we're a day after Apple stuff and a week after Samsung stuff. Let's get something in before Samsung."

• 42:23David Imel?

  Nothing mog Samsung.

• 42:24Speaker 01

  Oh, no, they, but they always do this long drip, drip, like new feature, new spec. They'll, next, tomorrow they'll tell us the processor, and then the next day they'll tell us what the camera specs are, and then the next day they'll tell us the battery size, and then the next day they'll tell us the materials, and then they just keep going.

• 42:39Andrew Manganelli?

  This is one of the best pieces of content I've seen Nothing put out. I thought this was informative.

• 42:44David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 42:44Andrew Manganelli?

  I loved...

• 42:45David Imel?

  The video was great.

• 42:45Andrew Manganelli?

  The video is great. I learned what a Tetraprism Periscope lens was. I did a bit of a difference. The presenters did really well. I loved the shot at a pink phone just being desaturated red, so...

• 42:55David Imel?

  It's true.

• 42:56Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah, the, like, there's some funny stuff. And the pink, I think we opened this up with the pink and then didn't talk about it. The pink looks fantastic. It's so good.

• 43:05Speaker 04

  I wanna wait to see it in person.

• 43:07Andrew Manganelli?

  That's true.

• 43:08Speaker 04

  Because I have seen pictures and video of it, and it looks amazing, but that always, like, it comes out the box and you're like, oh, so that's what it looks like. Yeah, exactly. So I'm waiting. But I am excited for it. It does look gorgeous.

• 43:19David Imel?

  Yeah, I'd have to see it in person.

• 43:21Andrew Manganelli?

  Nothing's mostly design, right? We saw the majority of what we care about of this phone.

• 43:25David Imel?

  Just need a price tag now.

• 43:26Andrew Manganelli?

  That's, yeah.

• 43:28David Imel?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 43:29Andrew Manganelli?

  The last thing we'll probably find out.

• 43:30David Imel?

  Yeah. It has G2.

• 43:33David Imel?

  New. Absolutely nothing. You think this transparent phone has G2? Yeah, you'd see those coils. Okay, another quick story that popped up yesterday, which is quite interesting. Apparently, later this year, there's going to be a touchscreen OLED MacBook Pro with a dynamic island and redesigned macOS controls. So, crazy enough, in one week, Apple is rumored to release the M5 Pro and M5 Max MacBook Pros, which are really nothing more than just spec upgrades to the current generation of laptops. Yes. But reportedly, near the end of the year, probably around late October, November, which is when they usually do this kind of stuff, they're going to release this whole new generation of MacBook Pros with M6 Max and M6 Pro.

• 44:19David Imel?

  Yeah, it's a big deal because they're going to be getting rid of this notch, I guess, that you could say, in the current design of MacBook Pros. They're going to be having the dynamic island similar to the iPhone. What that says about whether the iPhone is going to have dynamic island for another few years as opposed to just, you know, making it transparent, I'm not sure. But apparently, when you touch different aspects of macOS, it is going to expand to be more touch-friendly. So, it'll be able to be used with both a keyboard and your hands, kind of like whenever you want, and it will change a little bit for that reason. macOS has been sort of being slowly restructured to be more like iOS and iPadOS in general. They look very similar right now, anyway.

• 45:00David Imel?

  So, I think the main things Apple's gonna really have to kind of focus on are making sure that it doesn't wobble every time you tap it, and then maybe also making the screen a little more fingerprint resistant. Quinn at Snazzy Labs put out a pretty banger video this morning about maybe why they're doing all of this stuff. And he was talking about like the RAM shortage and everything like that. And they're keeping the prices the same for a lot of these things. So, he was estimating that these... The reason they're launching a M5 Pro and an M5 Max and the M6 Pro and M6 Max in the same year is so they can create huge product line differentiations, where they still sell the M5 Pro and M5 Max computers, but then the M6 Pro and M6 Max are way more expensive

• 45:43David Imel?

  because they have a way better display, touchscreen, and they're more powerful. So, that's... That would be one reason to release two lines of laptops in one year. I see. Yeah.

• 45:53Speaker 01

  Yeah, I, and I, I might just be one of those first people that like, kind of is along for the ride for the better specs and better display, even though I don't want a touchscreen. And I wonder what that does to the rest of the macOS experience. Hopefully not too much. I'm kind of, because like, Windows right now, you can either get a touchscreen or not touchscreen computer, and Windows is the same.

• 46:12David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 46:12Speaker 01

  It sounds like you're saying there's maybe going to be some differences to the touchscreen version of macOS, potentially?

• 46:20David Imel?

  Well, the rumor is that it'll be about the same, but then when you go to touch it, it will sort of like reformat itself on the fly to be more touch.

• 46:28Speaker 01

  Okay, so I don't, if I never touch the screen, it would just behave exactly the same, maybe, as a regular?

• 46:32David Imel?

  Maybe a slightly, a slight redesign. I'm sure we're gonna see more of this at WWDC in, uh, June.

• 46:37Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 46:38David Imel?

  So, yeah.

• 46:39Speaker 01

  I, I'm on, so I've said for years, I've never really wanted a touchscreen on my laptop. I've, I've had laptops with a touchscreen. I rarely ever touch the screen. Uh, anytime there is the ability to touch the screen, I'm, I'm annoyed by how much it wobbles and how many fingerprints stay on the screen, and I wish I never touched the screen. So, I don't know, where are you guys on touchscreen on the laptop?

• 47:00David Imel?

  I'm sort of in between. I mean, now that we have these enormous trackpads, it's less of a problem. Laptop, I don't know if you guys remember, but laptop trackpads used to be really small.

• 47:10Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 47:10David Imel?

  And really annoying to use. And so now that they're that much bigger, I, I really do think that they should have just like added Apple pencil support to the trackpad, and that would have solved a lot of problems.

• 47:20Speaker 01

  Hmm.

• 47:20David Imel?

  Um, I will say in Photoshop, it's really nice to be able to like pan and zoom with your fingers, and I used that on my Surface Book 2 back in the day when I had that a lot. But besides that, I don't need it, you know? I'm not really sure why they're doing it. Maybe it's just because OLEDs at this point are cheap enough to be able to make them touch capacitive?

• 47:41Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 47:42David Imel?

  I don't know.

• 47:42Speaker 02

  David, such a good point. Like, all the cool parts of the touchscreen experience, which are gestures.

• 47:49David Imel?

  You can do on the trackpad.

• 47:50Speaker 02

  It's built in.

• 47:51David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 47:52Speaker 02

  On the trackpad. Also, who is it for? Like, I'll be like, no one, if you're buying a MacBook Pro as you're like cuddle up and watch some Netflix on the couch computer, like,

• 48:03David Imel?

  Oh, no, no, no, no.

• 48:04Speaker 02

  Dude, chill out.

• 48:04Andrew Manganelli?

  Well,

• 48:05Speaker 02

  You know what I mean? And then it's like,

• 48:07David Imel?

  It's iPad.

• 48:07Speaker 02

  Yeah, exactly. So if you're buying a MacBook Pro, you're intending to do something professional with it, I would assume.

• 48:12Andrew Manganelli?

  You don't have to only do professional things with it, though. If you're spending that much money, it still should be able to function as your curl up and watch a movie MacBook.

• 48:21David Imel?

  It is gonna be thinner too, apparently, which scares me.

• 48:24Andrew Manganelli?

  Have you all ever sat on the couch like this? Hold on.

• 48:29David Imel?

  Oh, yeah. Oh, let's go.

• 48:30Andrew Manganelli?

  Like this.

• 48:31Speaker 02

  So Andrew,

• 48:32Andrew Manganelli?

  You know how hard, like knees up, you know, on the couch?

• 48:35Speaker 02

  Andrew's feet are on the chair, knees up, computer wedged in between, screen at an obtuse angle.

• 48:41Andrew Manganelli?

  Look how easy it is to scroll like this.

• 48:42David Imel?

  Oh, true. Oh, because your hands up there.

• 48:44Andrew Manganelli?

  Do you know how hard it is to scroll like this?

• 48:46David Imel?

  That's crazy. I never,

• 48:47Speaker 02

  You, I just got proven wrong.

• 48:50David Imel?

  That's actually,

• 48:50Andrew Manganelli?

  Y'all just need some more comfy positions.

• 48:52Speaker 02

  No, no, it's because my computer spends probably like 80% of its on time in clamshell mode, like in a dock. The other 20% are between my knees and my chest, just like that.

• 49:02David Imel?

  That's right. That's true. If you're reading, yeah, being able to just kind of like flick with your thumb or holding it.

• 49:09Andrew Manganelli?

  I love potting like this. My thumb's sometimes right here and I'm just like scrolling on the, I know I can scroll too. Listen, I do it on both, but when I used my Surface for a long time and I got really used to just occasionally like doing this scrolling or like, yeah, I use, and then I come back and not have it and I'm like, oh my God, I do that way more than I thought I did.

• 49:28Speaker 04

  Yeah, scrolling is not a big deal if the main place you use a laptop is your desk. I think every time I'm on the couch, when I'm on an airplane, when I'm in the backseat of a car, scrolling like that in a touchscreen is so much nicer.

• 49:41David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 49:41Andrew Manganelli?

  And you don't have to use it. It's,

• 49:44David Imel?

  Yeah, it's optional.

• 49:44Speaker 02

  If I see an on-screen keyboard pop up in my macOS experience.

• 49:49David Imel?

  That, that's.

• 49:49Speaker 02

  I swear.

• 49:50David Imel?

  That's, yeah.

• 49:51Andrew Manganelli?

  Straight to jail.

• 49:52Speaker 02

  I'm doing something terrible.

• 49:54David Imel?

  That's where I draw the line. Yeah, I don't know. I think Apple needs to release some sort of display coding that stops fingerprints.

• 50:01Speaker 01

  Yeah, fingerprints are gonna drive me insane.

• 50:03David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 50:04Speaker 01

  We should come out with like a special finger, like what did Quinn do? He has like a cloth?

• 50:07David Imel?

  He's like the polishing.

• 50:08Speaker 01

  Oh, didn't he just?

• 50:09David Imel?

  He just launched it.

• 50:10Andrew Manganelli?

  Like XXL or something? It's like the bigger version?

• 50:12David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 50:12Speaker 01

  And it's about to blow up.

• 50:13David Imel?

  Polishing towel?

• 50:14Speaker 01

  Polishing cloth market's about to go crazy.

• 50:16David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 50:17Speaker 01

  Oh, true.

• 50:17David Imel?

  It's about to go crazy.

• 50:18Speaker 01

  Oh, that's smart of him. That's smart of him.

• 50:20David Imel?

  Think about it.

• 50:20Speaker 01

  Corner of the market early, so when everyone's touching their computer screens.

• 50:24David Imel?

  Yeah, you know where to clean it.

• 50:25Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 50:27Andrew Manganelli?

  I will say touchscreen with a kid is awful. Cause I'll just be like.

• 50:33David Imel?

  They don't clean their fingers.

• 50:34Andrew Manganelli?

  Well, not, no, no, it's not even that. It's just like every time I have my computer open, Lane like runs over and she wants to play with it. And it's easy enough to defend the keyboard with one arm, but then it's just, and all my windows are all over the place now. Lord knows where. And I'm just like, oh no.

• 50:48David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 50:48Andrew Manganelli?

  So it happens to Claire more often because she's using a Lenovo, but um, yeah, it screws that computer up all the time.

• 50:55Speaker 02

  When I was teaching, that would happen to me all the time where a student would be like, can you help me like figure out this Ableton thing? And I'd go and I'd sit down and be like, oh, you just click right here. What have I done?

• 51:09David Imel?

  Yeah. So I guess we'll see how expensive that ends up being.

• 51:14Speaker 01

  I mean, you got me wondering, David, now, do you think that they'll do gestures on the screen? Cause they already have them all.

• 51:20David Imel?

  Like being, I mean.

• 51:21Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, like an iPad.

• 51:22David Imel?

  Yeah, like an iPad.

• 51:24Speaker 01

  Like on the iPad, you can like take all of your fingers swipe across and it moves you to the next app. But not like the gestures from the trackpad gestures.

• 51:31David Imel?

  They're strikingly similar, right?

• 51:33Speaker 01

  Yeah, they are quite similar.

• 51:33David Imel?

  All fingers does, yeah, it's very similar.

• 51:36Speaker 02

  Can you tell he has a Galaxy Tab?

• 51:39Speaker 01

  It's funny, so I have an iPad and a MacBook Pro and I very distinctly use them differently for different things and I just feel like a touchscreen laptop would blur that line. This has always been the argument, like, why would you need both? I guess it's for people who don't have both. It's for people who don't have an iPad and don't want to buy two things. Now you have one thing that does both.

• 51:57Speaker 04

  I wonder how much of this is just that the technology is so much cheaper now.

• 52:00Speaker 01

  That's what I keep wondering.

• 52:02David Imel?

  Might as well.

• 52:02Speaker 04

  You know?

• 52:03Speaker 01

  It's been true for a while. It's just, there's been such a philosophical argument against a touchscreen MacBook.

• 52:09David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 52:09Speaker 01

  For forever.

• 52:10David Imel?

  Well, there was that famous, like, Steve Jobs keynote where he says that your arm's gonna turn into a gorilla arm if you do that and you're gonna, like, break your screen or something.

• 52:17Speaker 01

  He's said a lot of things that they've gone back on, though, before.

• 52:20David Imel?

  They, yeah, I mean-

• 52:21Speaker 01

  He said, "Who wants a stylus? Ugh."

• 52:23David Imel?

  Yes.

• 52:23Speaker 01

  Remember that? He hates styluses.

• 52:25Speaker 04

  I've got ten perfectly good styluses right here.

• 52:27David Imel?

  To be fair, I think that was for phones, mostly.

• 52:29Speaker 01

  Introducing Apple Pencil.

• 52:30David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 52:31Speaker 01

  I guess it's never to the iPhone.

• 52:32David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 52:33Speaker 01

  But yeah, we'll see how this goes. Uh, yeah, so that's a rumor mill thing. We all know, well, we all expect a whole bunch of new laptops and a bunch of other stuff that, like, talked about last week.

• 52:41David Imel?

  Next week.

• 52:41Speaker 01

  Next week.

• 52:42David Imel?

  Yeah, we're gonna get that cheap MacBook next week.

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• 52:45David Imel?

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• 52:50David Imel?

  We'll get all, we'll get all the info very soon for ya.

• 52:53Speaker 01

  Yeah, okay.

• 52:53Andrew Manganelli?

  Quinn's, it's called, uh, sorry, going back to that, Cloth Pro Max. He really went all out. The, like, packaging itself really feels like an Apple product.

• 53:02Speaker 01

  Looks just like an Apple product.

• 53:03Andrew Manganelli?

  It also has a compatibility list.

• 53:05Speaker 01

  That's-

• 53:05Andrew Manganelli?

  That has a bunch of iPhone stuff and then says, uh, there's also dusty Nintendo Switch.

• 53:11Speaker 01

  Nice. Old cinema display, CRT TV. Nice.

• 53:16Andrew Manganelli?

  This is awesome.

• 53:17Speaker 01

  Very cool. All right, well, um, we're going to wrap it up with a couple more stories after the break, but before that, we have some more questions to ask us and potentially not get any points like usual.

• 53:30David Imel?

  T for trivia.

• 53:31Andrew Manganelli?

  Oh, I thought you were gonna say timeout.

• 53:32Speaker 01

  That's what I thought.

• 53:34David Imel?

  Trivia.

• 53:34Speaker 01

  Trivia.

• 53:35David Imel?

  That's what that means.

• 53:36Speaker 02

  Samsung.

• 53:38Speaker 04

  The one, the only.

• 53:41Speaker 02

  They have a lot of products.

• 53:43Speaker 01

  Oh, boy.

• 53:43David Imel?

  Hmm.

• 53:44Speaker 01

  Is it a tractor again?

• 53:46Speaker 02

  A lot.

• 53:46Speaker 01

  Or like a-

• 53:47Speaker 02

  No, this question is about-

• 53:48Speaker 01

  Excavator.

• 53:48Speaker 02

  Is about two Samsung products that we, uh, know and love, specifically the Galaxy Buds and the Galaxy Z Fold. These are both staples of the Samsung lineup.

• 54:01Speaker 02

  However, which one came out first? And I'm talking original BUDs or original Fold?

• 54:09Andrew Manganelli?

  Interesting. Would we call them staples?

• 54:12Speaker 02

  They're both products that Samsung sells.

• 54:15Speaker 01

  Staples. The BUDs are, I think.

• 54:17Andrew Manganelli?

  BUDs can buy a Vans.

• 54:18Speaker 01

  Staple. The Fold is, it's starting to get there.

• 54:23Andrew Manganelli?

  It's a staple.

• 54:23Speaker 01

  It's out there.

• 54:24Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah.

• 54:25Speaker 01

  The Fold were on the Z Fold 7 and we're only on the BUDs 4, but that doesn't mean anything.

• 54:29Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah.

• 54:30Speaker 01

  It could be.

• 54:30Andrew Manganelli?

  That doesn't mean nothing.

• 54:31Speaker 01

  Yeah, we could have had many, many.

• 54:32Andrew Manganelli?

  We didn't even talk about the BUDs.

• 54:34Speaker 01

  Yeah, by the way, it's new BUDs.

• 54:36Andrew Manganelli?

  I kinda like them. We didn't talk about those. I wrote this question assuming we were gonna talk about the BUDs and we didn't talk about.

• 54:41Speaker 01

  The BUDs are sweet. I have them actually. I'm gonna start testing them more. They look like, uh, I mean, they all kinda look like AirPods from the front, but from the back, they redesigned them. They have new drivers. They have new features.

• 54:50Andrew Manganelli?

  The brush metal?

• 54:51Speaker 01

  The brush metal, the flat back. It looks pretty sweet.

• 54:53Andrew Manganelli?

  It looks like if an AirPod had the clip of a pen glued to the end of it.

• 54:57Speaker 01

  Which I would, I prefer a flat thing when I'm like controlling like a squeeze, like a round like barrel thing is, it's kind of annoying actually to squeeze.

• 55:05Andrew Manganelli?

  Well, that's why they like chamfered it on the sides.

• 55:07Speaker 01

  But like a fully flat thing, I like that. I like that better. That's just me. Anyway, yeah, we'll be testing those as well. Anyway, okay, yeah, so trivia will be, um, at the end. Answers like at the.

• 55:18Andrew Manganelli?

  Answers like.

• 55:19Speaker 01

  Be right back.

• 55:19Andrew Manganelli?

  The usual at the end.

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• 57:35Speaker 01

  All right, welcome back. We got to talk about weather a little bit more. I was waiting for someone to say the dad joke. Whether or not.

• 57:41Andrew Manganelli?

  I couldn't think of one fast enough.

• 57:43Speaker 01

  Whether or not. Mostly because, okay, so I've talked about weather in the past on this podcast, mostly because I think a couple of weeks ago I was comparing tech YouTube to weather YouTube, and I'm sticking by that. There are so many parallels between the two, especially because we just had another blizzard. I don't know if you guys were, did the weather stuff hit your feeds at all? It definitely hit my block. Am I the only one?

• 58:02Andrew Manganelli?

  My feed's been filled with other garbage.

• 58:04Speaker 01

  You didn't go to youtube.com during the great blizzard of 2026?

• 58:08Andrew Manganelli?

  The one two weeks ago or the one?

• 58:09Speaker 01

  The one like three days ago?

• 58:12Andrew Manganelli?

  I did not, or I did not have it.

• 58:13Speaker 01

  My feed was full of, all the YouTubers were live at the same time, opening up camera feeds, showing the live precipitation totals in different places. Were they interviewing people on the streets? Some of them, yeah. One of them, he had a feed of, Ryan Hall had a guy who was like, he had a feed of someone who was just walking through New York City during a blizzard, just walking around and different stuff. It was pretty cool. Cool. The blizzard was fun. Yeah, anyway.

• 58:37Andrew Manganelli?

  Wait, which Ryan Hall are you talking about?

• 58:39Speaker 01

  Ryan Hall, y'all. He's a weather YouTuber.

• 58:41Andrew Manganelli?

  Ryan Hall, y'all?

• 58:42Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 58:43Andrew Manganelli?

  That's a great name.

• 58:44Speaker 01

  That's his name. That's a YouTube name. So shout out to Ryan Hall. He's got a, he's got a whole thing. But a lot of people, when I talked about weather apps on social media, like to bring up that the founders of Dark Sky actually recently came out with a new app called Acme Weather. And I just want to point out, they emailed me right before it went live and they were like, hey, Marquez, this is, I'm one of the founders of Dark Sky and we, we actually got acquired by Apple and I left Apple and we started this new thing. And here's a link to the test flight. And I was like, this could be the greatest phishing email of all time.

• 59:16Speaker 01

  Because it's so specific to what I would insta-click. I clicked it immediately, downloaded it without even checking. Clicked it so fast.

• 59:26Speaker 04

  You mean your open Claude bot clicked it on your behalf.

• 59:30Speaker 01

  Yeah, man, I immediately downloaded it. So it's called Acme Weather. And it is similar in a few ways and some features, but it also has some, some new aesthetics to it. But it is a new weather app. It's iOS only right now. It's paid. Many of the good weather apps are paid. I'm just gonna get it out the way ahead of time, just so you know.

• 59:50Speaker 01

  But it is pretty good, I would say. And I've been playing with it for the last couple of days.

• 59:54Speaker 04

  I'm just upset that this is the first time I'm hearing about it.

• 59:57Speaker 01

  Really?

• 59:57Speaker 04

  You had access to this before it even launched.

• 1:00:02Speaker 01

  Yeah, we didn't. I dropped this in Slack, nobody. No, I kind of assumed that we'd all seen the headlines. Yeah. And just were gonna try it. Well, sure.

• 1:00:13Speaker 04

  I can't try it because it's iPhone only right now.

• 1:00:15Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's fair. That is fair. Well, we'll toss a screenshot or two in the pod for those of you who haven't seen what it looks like yet, but it kind of almost looks like, okay, I put a Venn diagram on Twitter of like, there's the pretty weather apps and then there's the accurate weather apps. Yeah. The, the pretty ones, like the default Google weather app are almost always not super accurate.

• 1:00:37Speaker 01

  And then the ones that have like their own data and that are like the weather.com and AccuWeather ones are really good information, but are like horrible apps. And a lot of people at that point pointed out that Carrot Weather, which is the one that I use, is kind of right in the middle. Because you choose what source you have and it looks really good. Acme Weather, I think, also looks like, kind of like the Google Weather app. It's, it's pretty good looking, but it has a dark sky timeline underneath and it has a pretty good radar feature. Or map feature, which lets you look at radar, but also things like current temperature, wind maps and accumulation totals for predict storms. Accumulation totals? Can't predict.

• 1:01:21Speaker 01

  I was just looking at this upcoming storm we're expecting in the next couple of days. And yeah, we're supposed to get some more snow. Wait, when? This weekend. Sunday, Monday. Wait.

• 1:01:31Speaker 04

  So I never check weather. It's one of my many faults. I always learn about upcoming storms in this room when we sit down. And Marquez is like, are you ready for this storm? And I'm like, what are you talking about?

• 1:01:43Andrew Manganelli?

  I think we need to enact a, an app time limit on weather apps on Marquez's phone because it's getting to be a lot. This weekend I was like, Sunday, I'm like, I really hope it doesn't snow that much. Oh, hey, everyone. It's like, it's pretty warm outside. There's probably not going to be any weather. He's like, wait till the low pressure system comes in. I was like, eat it, Marquez.

• 1:02:03Speaker 01

  Don't worry. It can't, it will get worse. That's my bad. It was because it was like during the day and you guys were all like, there's not that much snow. I was like, don't we all know it's a nighttime storm? Nobody knew, so I just sprinkled some information.

• 1:02:15Andrew Manganelli?

  Google it as fast as possible.

• 1:02:16Speaker 04

  Unrelated but related. Your Venn diagram that you posted.

• 1:02:19Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:02:20Speaker 04

  I was curious. How did you make that?

• 1:02:22Speaker 01

  I Googled Venn diagram creator and I opened a Canva template and I made it in Canva.

• 1:02:28Speaker 04

  No, I was convinced you were going to say Final Cut Pro, but that's.

• 1:02:32Speaker 01

  That's actually probably.

• 1:02:34Andrew Manganelli?

  He films two circles on his head.

• 1:02:35Speaker 01

  It should have been faster if I, it would have been faster if I didn't. Yeah.

• 1:02:38David Imel?

  Acme says that it is focused on hyperlocal, hyperaccurate forecasting combined with transparency about forecast uncertainty, which is nice.

• 1:02:45Speaker 01

  So.

• 1:02:46David Imel?

  So.

• 1:02:46Speaker 01

  Hyperlocal weather is neat because kind of like Waze is crowdsourced where if you, if something happens and someone reports it in the app, if it has enough users, that's like really useful information. So some truck drops something on the road and you are literally 60 seconds behind that truck. You'll get a notification that says object on road ahead because somebody reported it. Similar thing with weather. So you'll literally, like Dark Sky did this really well. You'd get a notification that says like rain starting in three minutes. And three minutes later, the front would pass and it would start raining. And it feels like kind of this, this magic moment. Maybe I'm just a little. Yes. Into weather or whatever, but like I thought that was pretty cool that they're also bringing that feature. So they have a, like a report feature.

• 1:03:32Speaker 01

  Where you can report like, yeah, it just started raining. Like a bomb cyclone? Well, it would probably be like a smaller thing like frost or ice or whatever. Community, what's happening right now? You hit lightning and then everybody knows there's lightning nearby. You create lightning. I kind of assume that multiple people need to report it so that it's not like one person saying.

• 1:03:52Andrew Manganelli?

  I don't know how many people are reporting things.

• 1:03:54Speaker 01

  Similar to Waze.

• 1:03:55Andrew Manganelli?

  It's just Mark has is the number one on the leaderboards right now.

• 1:03:59Speaker 01

  I mean, I do use the Waze reports. I would say that it would be awesome if a lot of people use this app and reported it and it got good because hyperlocal weather is sweet.

• 1:04:07David Imel?

  Yeah. It says it has an alternative possible futures feature because that they don't want to assume that the weather is going to be perfectly accurate every time. So it shows, it shows like possible different variations. It's got the black line, which is what they think is going to happen. And it's got these gray lines, which is what might happen.

• 1:04:25Speaker 01

  Multiverse confirmed.

• 1:04:26David Imel?

  Yeah. Yeah. They're just plugged into all the different versions of Carney, New Jersey.

• 1:04:31Speaker 01

  So I just want to throw it out there. Their logo is really bad.

• 1:04:35Andrew Manganelli?

  It's not great.

• 1:04:36Speaker 01

  I would love if somebody redid it. It's like the umbrella from Acme.

• 1:04:41Andrew Manganelli?

  I thought it's cute.

• 1:04:42Speaker 01

  Looney Tunes.

• 1:04:42Andrew Manganelli?

  It's fine.

• 1:04:43Speaker 01

  That blue gradient, it looks bad.

• 1:04:46Speaker 01

  Well, it's an umbrella.

• 1:04:47Speaker 02

  Wait, what?

• 1:04:48Speaker 01

  The umbrellas, I don't know.

• 1:04:50Speaker 02

  Oh, is the icon different than the?

• 1:04:52Speaker 01

  It's like the wily coyote.

• 1:04:53Speaker 04

  The blue, the blue.

• 1:04:54Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah, it's like a blue gradient on the.

• 1:04:56Speaker 02

  We were looking at just like the black and white logo on the website.

• 1:04:59Speaker 01

  Oh, no, it's not my favorite. I will, I will say that. It's not great. Definitely my favorite. Um, but it's cool.

• 1:05:05Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:05:05Speaker 01

  It kind of looks like if Claude and the New York Times made an app together. Cause Andrew said it was a New York Times looking app and it has like the Claude color palette.

• 1:05:13Speaker 02

  Everyone needs to stop using the Chobani font. I don't know what font it is. But like, look up Chobani yogurt, like, like the font. Knock it off.

• 1:05:24Speaker 01

  New York Times loves Chobani.

• 1:05:26Speaker 02

  I don't know what.

• 1:05:26Andrew Manganelli?

  Kind of see what you mean.

• 1:05:28Speaker 02

  No, it's, it's everywhere. It's like all the millennial ass DTC companies.

• 1:05:32Speaker 01

  It's the off white background that makes it.

• 1:05:34Speaker 04

  Mm, yeah.

• 1:05:35Speaker 01

  Like that, like the Chobani packaging. All right, well.

• 1:05:38Speaker 04

  Make our own weather station so we can just have hyper local weather for this video.

• 1:05:43Speaker 01

  That's actually a thing you can do.

• 1:05:44Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah. So wait, that was a question I kind of had.

• 1:05:46Speaker 02

  That's what I'm saying.

• 1:05:47Andrew Manganelli?

  I can't tell if this is a real thing or I'm remembering it incorrectly. So maybe one of you heard of it or an audience member has, but I swear my cousin told me about this thing that he bought that he puts up on his garage and a lot of people in the area buy, have them and are connected together.

• 1:06:02Speaker 02

  That's what I'm saying.

• 1:06:03Andrew Manganelli?

  It's like wind and barometer and stuff and it, it takes down what's happening outside.

• 1:06:07Speaker 01

  This is a whole rabbit hole.

• 1:06:08Andrew Manganelli?

  Do you have this?

• 1:06:09Speaker 01

  No, but.

• 1:06:10Andrew Manganelli?

  How do you not have this, weather boy?

• 1:06:12Speaker 01

  I should, I should, I should just put one up. Yes. I, and you have a weather app or like even like some people have like a dedicated display where it's like you can plug into the data or you can plug into the data from your own weather station. So instead of getting a local report from the Newark weather station about like what pressure and temperature and all that are, you'll take it from your actual weather station. So you'll get your actual location.

• 1:06:34Andrew Manganelli?

  MQBHD weather.

• 1:06:35Speaker 02

  For every bit of data you upload to the weather network, it mines part of the hash of a cryptocurrency.

• 1:06:41Andrew Manganelli?

  Weather coin.

• 1:06:43Speaker 01

  Weather coin.

• 1:06:43Speaker 04

  Well, no, then it would actually have some utility.

• 1:06:48Andrew Manganelli?

  Let's do one.

• 1:06:49Speaker 01

  Yeah, we should.

• 1:06:50Andrew Manganelli?

  How much are they? What do I search?

• 1:06:53Speaker 02

  Andrew, remember, remember when I was like, I need to find this weather thing?

• 1:06:56Andrew Manganelli?

  It was sort of similar.

• 1:06:57Speaker 02

  You know, it is that. It's just a thing you put on your roof and then it tells you the weather.

• 1:07:01Andrew Manganelli?

  I thought yours was just the display. I didn't realize it was the roof. Couple hundred bucks.

• 1:07:05Speaker 02

  You can only get the display with the roof thing. You cannot get a display that just 3G's or whatever. I mean, now you can now that terminal exists.

• 1:07:13Andrew Manganelli?

  Okay.

• 1:07:13Speaker 02

  But, right.

• 1:07:14Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah, I don't know. My cousin seemed, everyone I've ever heard talk about this seems super pumped about it.

• 1:07:18Speaker 02

  If you go on Amazon and just type in weather station, they're made by, they're like 30 bucks and everybody makes them. And I'm sure they're all, I think it's dumb.

• 1:07:26Andrew Manganelli?

  Tell us a good one. I want one of these.

• 1:07:28Speaker 02

  It's just like, what's the point of knowing what the weather is where you are? I need to know what it's going to be. I can go, I can go outside and be like, it's cold.

• 1:07:38Andrew Manganelli?

  Can't you link up with other people and then if you get enough people in a localized region?

• 1:07:43Speaker 02

  How does that tell you what it's gonna be? That just tells you-

• 1:07:44Andrew Manganelli?

  Because then when it's coming from the west, my homies to the west are feeding me information. My weather homies.

• 1:07:51Speaker 01

  So here's the other thing about weather is there's all these different models that are, that are aggregated and computed by different computers and regions or whatever.

• 1:07:59Speaker 02

  Right.

• 1:07:59Speaker 01

  So those are based on the weather stations that they use. So then if you have your own weather station, that's maybe a little like, like we're, you know, Newark is close by, but we're 50 miles away from Newark or something. Then you can adjust yours based on how far you are from the weather station that you're getting your information from.

• 1:08:17Andrew Manganelli?

  Mark, that's kind of interesting. I think you should buy me one of these because I'm on the west part of New Jersey and you're on the east part of New Jersey. So it's only beneficial for you if you get me one.

• 1:08:28Speaker 02

  New Jersey is a pencil ass state. You're like three minutes away from each other.

• 1:08:32Speaker 01

  Dude, no, but the coast thing is, distance from the coast is crazy. You got half as much snow as we did.

• 1:08:38Andrew Manganelli?

  I know. Usually I get more snow than you guys, dude.

• 1:08:40Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:08:41Andrew Manganelli?

  Both times this time, I've gotten significantly less.

• 1:08:43Speaker 01

  This was a coastal storm that dropped 22 inches here and eight inches there. Like that's, that's because the weather stations. You know, I know neither of you are in the dating world right now, but you'd be killing it talking about the weather on your dates. You'd be like, that would not-

• 1:08:59Andrew Manganelli?

  How's the weather?

• 1:09:00Speaker 01

  Oh, let me tell you, this would not be a dull conversation.

• 1:09:06Speaker 01

  We gotta move on, guys. This is insane.

• 1:09:09David Imel?

  I just wanna shout out Weather Committee.

• 1:09:11Speaker 01

  I appreciate it.

• 1:09:12David Imel?

  Yeah. Yeah.

• 1:09:13Speaker 01

  Just saying, we could start with Marquez.

• 1:09:15David Imel?

  I'm not against it. I'm gonna start Googling weather stations.

• 1:09:17Speaker 01

  I'll use the company card.

• 1:09:20David Imel?

  Alright, well, yeah.

• 1:09:24Speaker 02

  Let's sum up this story. We'll alternate words.

• 1:09:26David Imel?

  Okay, individual words?

• 1:09:28Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:09:28David Imel?

  Okay. Alright, here we go. Ready?

• 1:09:31Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:09:31David Imel?

  Do I start?

• 1:09:32Speaker 02

  Yeah, you can start.

• 1:09:32David Imel?

  Okay. Discord is not

• 1:09:35Speaker 02

  gonna

• 1:09:37David Imel?

  scan

• 1:09:38Speaker 02

  your

• 1:09:38David Imel?

  face

• 1:09:40Speaker 02

  or

• 1:09:41David Imel?

  other

• 1:09:42Speaker 02

  children's

• 1:09:44David Imel?

  faces.

• 1:09:45Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:09:45Speaker 01

  Until later.

• 1:09:47David Imel?

  Late, yeah. Yeah.

• 1:09:51Speaker 01

  Almost good news.

• 1:09:52David Imel?

  If you guys, well, yeah, if you guys remember our Super Bowl episode.

• 1:09:58David Imel?

  Technically true. It was after the Super Bowl. Discord got in a lot of heat because they decided that they were going to do age verification via scanning your face if you were a child. If their algorithms decided that you're probably a kid using various different factors. One of the ways they were gonna verify that you were not a kid actually was to scan your face. They got a ton of pushback on that. A lot of people went back to the good old team speak back from, you know, the 1900s. And they said, "Oopsie, that was a bad idea." So they are now delaying the age verification functionality until the second half of 2026. Before it rolls out verification, it's gonna add more ways to verify, like adding a credit card to your account.

• 1:10:42David Imel?

  Because that basically just tells you then how old you are, etc. It will also include documentation for every verification vendor that they've used. It will add a spoiler channels option and publish a technical blog explaining how all of their age verification systems work. So they are trying really hard to win back the trust of people, of the kids and the adults. Because nobody wants their faces scanned, especially since they had like a data breach before this. In which everyone's data was like leaked and it was not good, so.

• 1:11:13Speaker 01

  Flushed nightmare.

• 1:11:14David Imel?

  Now we can do trivia.

• 1:11:20Speaker 04

  Trivia, dude. Quick update on the score.

• 1:11:26Speaker 04

  Hey, I'll keep it. Now you know what we deal with, people. Marquez with 14. Andrew with 17. David with 16.

• 1:11:35Speaker 01

  That's the same as last.

• 1:11:36Speaker 04

  Same as the past four episodes.

• 1:11:38Speaker 01

  And the week before, and the week before, and the week before.

• 1:11:39Speaker 04

  Can you guys please let me update the graphic this week? All right. So, were you guys paying attention? Towards the end of the live event, they showed off an expert raw mode that ensures efficient and high-quality images of underwater coral and fishing stuff when you're swimming or diving in the ocean. What is it called?

• 1:11:58Speaker 01

  Realistically, it's for when you're at the aquarium.

• 1:12:01Speaker 04

  That, yeah.

• 1:12:02Speaker 01

  That's mostly what that's for.

• 1:12:03David Imel?

  Or the one time you go snorkeling and you're like, isn't this thing waterproof?

• 1:12:07Speaker 01

  And then it's sea salt.

• 1:12:09Andrew Manganelli?

  Was this water just the example they used? It's not specifically for water?

• 1:12:14David Imel?

  I think it is for water.

• 1:12:15Andrew Manganelli?

  It was for, it's a mode for being underwater.

• 1:12:17David Imel?

  It's not, well, things that are underwater. So like a fish tank.

• 1:12:23Speaker 04

  It'll like pump up the vibrancy and stuff. All right, flip them and read. What do you got?

• 1:12:29David Imel?

  Ooh, we all combined her.

• 1:12:30Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 1:12:31Andrew Manganelli?

  Oh, wait, that is.

• 1:12:31Speaker 04

  Marquez, what'd you say?

• 1:12:32Speaker 01

  I wrote Ocean Pro.

• 1:12:34Andrew Manganelli?

  Wait, hold on. We only wrote three.

• 1:12:36David Imel?

  Oh, wow. We have the entire combinatoric of both of these words.

• 1:12:40Speaker 04

  Does everyone say what they wrote? One at a time, please.

• 1:12:43Andrew Manganelli?

  Oh, I bet you went at the same time.

• 1:12:44Speaker 01

  I'll go first. I wrote Ocean Pro.

• 1:12:47David Imel?

  Dang it.

• 1:12:48Andrew Manganelli?

  I wrote Pro Mode.

• 1:12:49Speaker 01

  I wrote Ocean Mode.

• 1:12:51Speaker 04

  Correct!

• 1:12:52Speaker 01

  Ocean Mode it is.

• 1:12:53Speaker 04

  Ocean Mode.

• 1:12:57Speaker 04

  Ocean Mode by Juan.

• 1:13:00Andrew Manganelli?

  Oh, that's tie for the lead.

• 1:13:02Speaker 04

  Yeah. All right, well, this next one.

• 1:13:04Speaker 01

  I was paying attention.

• 1:13:05Speaker 04

  50/50 shot.

• 1:13:07Speaker 01

  Fitty, fitty.

• 1:13:08Speaker 04

  Unless you somehow get it wrong.

• 1:13:11Andrew Manganelli?

  Well, isn't.

• 1:13:12Speaker 01

  That's part of the 50/50.

• 1:13:13Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah, that's one of the 50s, isn't it?

• 1:13:18David Imel?

  Not how that works.

• 1:13:19Speaker 01

  Big Macs.

• 1:13:21David Imel?

  That's why we're podcasters.

• 1:13:23Speaker 01

  And not politicians.

• 1:13:26Andrew Manganelli?

  Never thought of it like that.

• 1:13:29Speaker 02

  It turns out I've just bodied every 50/50 shot I've ever had. I didn't know losing it was an option.

• 1:13:34Speaker 01

  Oh shoot.

• 1:13:35David Imel?

  I like that.

• 1:13:35Speaker 02

  Guys, what came first? The Samsung Galaxy Z Fold? Or the Gam-? The GamSung Salaxy?

• 1:13:45Speaker 02

  Or the Samsung Galaxy Buds?

• 1:13:49Speaker 02

  There's no letter with the Buds. Right? It's not like the P Buds.

• 1:13:53Speaker 04

  Cause they have the number after.

• 1:13:55Speaker 01

  Galaxy Buds number.

• 1:13:56Speaker 02

  There's a Galaxy, but there's numbers after the Fold 2 and there's a letter there. It's the Z Fold 5.

• 1:14:01Speaker 01

  That's just because they have so many phones. They gotta separate them with letters.

• 1:14:06Andrew Manganelli?

  Oh wait, I thought the Buds did have a number.

• 1:14:08Speaker 02

  No, they do have a number. They don't have a letter.

• 1:14:09Speaker 01

  They don't have a letter.

• 1:14:10Speaker 02

  It's not like the Samsung Galaxy J Buds.

• 1:14:13David Imel?

  Oh.

• 1:14:14Speaker 01

  But imagine? Z Buds.

• 1:14:16Andrew Manganelli?

  Well, it's actually the Samsung B Uds.

• 1:14:20Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 1:14:21Speaker 02

  Alright.

• 1:14:22Andrew Manganelli?

  Okay.

• 1:14:23Speaker 02

  Guys. Who would like to read their answer? Did you guys all write the same thing?

• 1:14:27David Imel?

  No.

• 1:14:27Speaker 02

  Who, who has the different thing?

• 1:14:29David Imel?

  This would be really sad.

• 1:14:30Andrew Manganelli?

  I really like the font that you used, Marquez.

• 1:14:32David Imel?

  Thank you.

• 1:14:33Andrew Manganelli?

  I don't know why your writing looks different in that, but like I'd buy that as a font, not gonna lie.

• 1:14:37David Imel?

  Impact font. So I said the Buds came first.

• 1:14:41Speaker 02

  I'm so sorry, Marquez.

• 1:14:44David Imel?

  I know the reason.

• 1:14:45Speaker 02

  I'm so sorry. You can say the reason.

• 1:14:47David Imel?

  It's because they didn't used to be called the Galaxy Buds.

• 1:14:49Andrew Manganelli?

  That was my guess also.

• 1:14:51David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 1:14:51Speaker 02

  Wait, what?

• 1:14:51David Imel?

  The Samsung earbuds used to be called like something else.

• 1:14:55Speaker 02

  What did they used to be called?

• 1:14:55David Imel?

  Do you remember, Adam? You were the sound guy. Yeah, I do not remember. They were called...

• 1:15:02David Imel?

  Something else.

• 1:15:02Andrew Manganelli?

  I picked this because it felt like the Buds is the obvious answer.

• 1:15:06David Imel?

  I know the watches used to be called Gear. Gear, Gear, Galaxy Gear Live or something. Oh. Galaxy Gear Earbuds, Galaxy Gear Buds.

• 1:15:15Speaker 04

  As far as I'm aware.

• 1:15:17Speaker 02

  They've always been Galaxy Buds.

• 1:15:18David Imel?

  Oh, Gear Icon X.

• 1:15:20Speaker 04

  Oh yes, that's what it was.

• 1:15:22David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 1:15:23Speaker 04

  The Icon X.

• 1:15:24Speaker 02

  The Fold came out on February 20th, 2019. The Galaxy Buds came out on March 8th, 2019.

• 1:15:32David Imel?

  Oh. But the Galaxy Gear Icon X.

• 1:15:34Speaker 02

  Well, that wasn't what I was asking about.

• 1:15:37David Imel?

  Okay.

• 1:15:38Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah.

• 1:15:39Speaker 01

  It's fine. I didn't want any points anyway.

• 1:15:40Andrew Manganelli?

  Worked out for you then?

• 1:15:41Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:15:42Andrew Manganelli?

  Nailed it.

• 1:15:44Speaker 02

  The race is on. We, we, I feel like we need to do a Trudy extravaganza soon.

• 1:15:50Andrew Manganelli?

  We really do.

• 1:15:51Speaker 02

  The points aren't that high, though. It's just been a long time.

• 1:15:53Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah, because your questions are really, really hard.

• 1:15:56Speaker 02

  Are they?

• 1:15:56Andrew Manganelli?

  Yes. We never get points anymore. Honestly, the fact that Marquez got the excavator one. Yeah, that was crazy. Probably we should have just ended this. I think he deserved to win.

• 1:16:05Speaker 02

  That's true, yeah.

• 1:16:06Speaker 01

  I think that's my only point.

• 1:16:07Speaker 02

  At this point, we've written hundreds of trivia questions. Like, there's, I'm doing the best I can.

• 1:16:12Speaker 01

  Anyway, uh, yeah, thanks for watching. Thanks for listening. Like I said, get subscribed because you already know that next week we got to talk about all the stuff that gets announced then.

• 1:16:18Andrew Manganelli?

  A lot of it.

• 1:16:18Speaker 01

  Of course, the reviews are coming and the stuff that came out this week. Hype us because somehow you still can.

• 1:16:23Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah. YouTube definitely forgot about that. They apparently did not hard code that.

• 1:16:28Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah. You can just hype channels with over 500.

• 1:16:30Andrew Manganelli?

  They were like, this isn't gonna work at all. No one under 500 is getting over 500.

• 1:16:34Speaker 01

  Hey, we did it. And we're still, we're still hyping ourselves. It's amazing. So, yeah, hype. See on the, see on the hype train. See you next week. See you later.

• 1:16:43Andrew Manganelli?

  Wait, for it's produced by Adam Alina and Ellis Robyn and partnered with Vox Media Podcast Network and our track for music was created by Vane Sil.

• 1:16:47Speaker 01

  Bingo.

• 1:16:51Andrew Manganelli?

  That one was David, right?

• 1:17:00Andrew Manganelli?

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