Sacha Baron Cohen & The Fly Stunner

Hollywood icon and comedy legend Sacha Baron Cohen (Ali G, Borat, Brüno) enters the Slept Kingdom. We chat Bobby's one-testicle audition, swimming with tiger sharks, Sacha's live spatial fly-stunning technique, fake human flesh, house arrest scare, candida, and the iconic green thong design. Watch Ali G: Who Iz I? on Amazon Prime Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/TIGERBELLY and use code TIGERBELLY and get $150 if you win your first $5 lineup! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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• 0:00Speaker 00

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• 0:05Bobby Lee?

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• 0:49Bobby Lee?

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• 1:00Speaker 02

  It's a pesky fly.

• 1:00Speaker 03

  That's fine, that's fine. By the way, I can catch the fly.

• 1:03Bobby Lee?

  I'm sorry.

• 1:03Speaker 03

  If the fly lands, I will catch it. I'm serious. If you tell me where the fly has landed.

• 1:09Bobby Lee?

  How do you do it?

• 1:10Speaker 03

  I'll show you.

• 1:10Speaker 02

  The fly is.

• 1:11Speaker 03

  Where is it?

• 1:12Speaker 02

  As the thunder of Honda Red Bull's head.

• 1:14Bobby Lee?

  Wait, shh.

• 1:14Speaker 03

  Okay, okay, here we go. This is where you need your camera. Are you ready?

• 1:19Bobby Lee?

  Yep.

• 1:47Speaker 03

  Is it chilly here?

• 1:49Bobby Lee?

  It's pretty chilly, right?

• 1:49Speaker 03

  It's quite chilly, yeah.

• 1:50Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you not like it? I could take some of it.

• 1:52Speaker 03

  No, no, you're liking cold here.

• 1:54Bobby Lee?

  Whatever you need, I do.

• 1:55Speaker 03

  No, no, no, I like it. Look at this, it's so colorful. Well, it is quite chilly.

• 2:01Bobby Lee?

  What'd you say?

• 2:01Speaker 03

  No, it's chilly.

• 2:02Bobby Lee?

  It's chilly in here, you like it chilly. Well, comedy thrives in chill.

• 2:05Speaker 03

  Wow.

• 2:06Bobby Lee?

  You don't think?

• 2:07Speaker 02

  What happened?

• 2:08Speaker 03

  Well, I just heard the volume of his voice.

• 2:12Bobby Lee?

  A lot of.

• 2:12Speaker 03

  Now, wait a minute. What do I drink? Okay, Coca-Cola.

• 2:15Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, what do you like? Red Bull.

• 2:16Speaker 03

  Red Bull I won't gonna have, Coca-Cola I won't have.

• 2:18Bobby Lee?

  You won't have that?

• 2:19Speaker 03

  What is that, water? Smart water I can have.

• 2:21Bobby Lee?

  You like sparkling water, no?

• 2:22Speaker 03

  Yeah, I like it. How do you know that?

• 2:24Bobby Lee?

  I can just tell, dude, by your face, your angler.

• 2:26Speaker 03

  Have we started? Is this?

• 2:27Bobby Lee?

  It doesn't matter.

• 2:28Speaker 03

  Is this it?

• 2:28Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 2:29Speaker 03

  So it's already happening.

• 2:30Bobby Lee?

  You know, you have a swimmer.

• 2:31Speaker 03

  You need more cameras.

• 2:32Bobby Lee?

  Sasha.

• 2:32Speaker 03

  It's like seven.

• 2:33Bobby Lee?

  You have a swimmer's body.

• 2:35Speaker 02

  You do, and as a swimmer?

• 2:36Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, she's a swimmer. You have a swimmer's body, yeah.

• 2:38Speaker 03

  Are you a swimmer? You know what? I started swimming a lot when I was in Australia. I swam every day in the sea.

• 2:43Bobby Lee?

  In the ocean?

• 2:44Speaker 03

  In the ocean.

• 2:45Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 2:45Speaker 03

  Every day.

• 2:46Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. You call it a sea?

• 2:48Speaker 03

  We call it, what did I call it? What did you call it?

• 2:50Bobby Lee?

  An ocean.

• 2:51Speaker 03

  An ocean, yes.

• 2:52Bobby Lee?

  Yeah.

• 2:54Speaker 03

  I swam every day in the sea. I had a friend of mine. We had, we would swim. Have we started?

• 3:00Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, this is how it starts.

• 3:01Speaker 03

  This is it. This is very casual. You don't even wear headphones. You don't wear headphones.

• 3:06Speaker 02

  No, I don't.

• 3:07Speaker 03

  So basically, I mean, so you just talk and you just take photos.

• 3:12Speaker 03

  You go to paparazzi lens, even though you're right next to me.

• 3:18Speaker 02

  Those are.

• 3:20Speaker 03

  Massive lens, you're six feet away from me.

• 3:23Bobby Lee?

  What are you, in the CIA? What are you doing?

• 3:27Speaker 03

  Look at my pores.

• 3:29Bobby Lee?

  You have no pores.

• 3:30Speaker 03

  I thank you very much.

• 3:31Bobby Lee?

  You look great.

• 3:31Speaker 03

  Really?

• 3:32Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, you look really good.

• 3:33Speaker 03

  You're looking gorgeous as well.

• 3:34Bobby Lee?

  So how about a.

• 3:35Speaker 02

  Oh, sorry, go ahead.

• 3:36Bobby Lee?

  Can I give him an intro?

• 3:36Speaker 02

  Yeah, sorry, sorry.

• 3:37Bobby Lee?

  Can I give him a fucking intro?

• 3:38Speaker 02

  I'm so sorry.

• 3:39Speaker 03

  Intro, mate.

• 3:39Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, yeah, so.

• 3:40Speaker 03

  Tell them who I am.

• 3:42Bobby Lee?

  I don't want to.

• 3:43Speaker 03

  Tell them who I am.

• 3:45Bobby Lee?

  I don't want to be, get too sentimental, but I could tell you a story if I may.

• 3:50Speaker 03

  Please do.

• 3:50Bobby Lee?

  To introduce you. I was on Mad TV and I was, I was living in this tiny apartment in Silverlake and I got the flu. And I turned on HBO. This is way back in the day. And I just didn't know about your show, you know, Ali G, but it was on. And I remember being super sick and cackling so hard and just like being so obsessed. And ever since then, I've just been a huge fan of yours, man.

• 4:14Speaker 03

  Thank you, likewise. So you came in on Bruno.

• 4:17Bobby Lee?

  Tell me how I, tell me, tell me how I came in. So, so he has a movie, right? Great movie Bruno, right? I auditioned for it.

• 4:24Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 4:24Bobby Lee?

  Right, I remember. And I remember, what do I do to make this different?

• 4:30Bobby Lee?

  So I was playing your boyfriend.

• 4:32Speaker 03

  Yes. Auditioning. You were auditioning to be my lover.

• 4:35Bobby Lee?

  Your lover, right?

• 4:36Speaker 03

  By the way.

• 4:37Bobby Lee?

  Yeah.

• 4:38Speaker 03

  You had a pretty crazy sex scene if you would have got the bar.

• 4:41Bobby Lee?

  I know, dude, I fucking missed out. It would have been a dream.

• 4:44Speaker 03

  There's a terrible story which I could tell. But tell us the audition story.

• 4:48Bobby Lee?

  All right, so.

• 4:49Speaker 03

  And then I'll tell a story theoretically, which you may cut out later on.

• 4:52Bobby Lee?

  I don't know if you remember, but I.

• 4:53Speaker 03

  I remember you coming in.

• 4:54Bobby Lee?

  I came in and I had a testicle out. What? Yeah.

• 4:58Speaker 03

  That was on the.

• 4:59Bobby Lee?

  I had these jean shorts.

• 5:00Speaker 03

  Wasn't that a requirement from the casting? You won this, you have one nut out.

• 5:05Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, so I had short shorts like this.

• 5:07Speaker 03

  By the way, most guys had two nuts out, but okay.

• 5:12Bobby Lee?

  And it put up the side and it walked in. And it was a great magical, you know what I mean?

• 5:17Speaker 03

  Yeah. You had a scrotum.

• 5:20Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, yeah, but.

• 5:22Speaker 02

  Proper intro, Bobby.

• 5:23Bobby Lee?

  Oh, let me finish.

• 5:24Speaker 02

  Okay, sorry, my bad.

• 5:25Speaker 03

  Oh, we're still in the intro?

• 5:26Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, we're still.

• 5:27Speaker 03

  Very loose format this. Right, they're eating sushi in the corner.

• 5:33Bobby Lee?

  Why are you, did you bring us sushi?

• 5:37Speaker 03

  They're actually gonna eat. All right, okay.

• 5:39Bobby Lee?

  California roll? No, we're not, we're not. Okay. So how about a run of plot? Bruno, Ali G, Orat, Tallahega Nights. Oh, Tallahega.

• 5:51Speaker 03

  Tallahega.

• 5:52Bobby Lee?

  It's the Korean way.

• 5:53Speaker 00

  It's the French, it's a French way of saying it.

• 5:54Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, Tallahega. What's a fucking called then?

• 5:57Speaker 03

  Talladega.

• 5:58Bobby Lee?

  Who, I missed a fucking pronoun. A pronoun? I missed a letter. Anyway, let's move on. Sasha, better go.

• 6:11Bobby Lee?

  I'm not professional, man. I don't know what I'm doing, you know?

• 6:13Speaker 03

  That much is clear.

• 6:16Bobby Lee?

  Yeah. So Sasha, you're English?

• 6:20Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 6:20Bobby Lee?

  Yes. What Premier League club do you support?

• 6:23Speaker 03

  So I am probably the only English person who left for me who doesn't support a Premier Club.

• 6:28Bobby Lee?

  Boom.

• 6:28Speaker 03

  I grew up into basketball.

• 6:31Bobby Lee?

  Oh.

• 6:32Speaker 03

  Yeah. And my dad was Welsh and we grew up into rugby as well.

• 6:36Bobby Lee?

  Whoa.

• 6:36Speaker 03

  Do you even know what that is?

• 6:38Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 6:39Speaker 03

  I didn't mean to be rude.

• 6:41Bobby Lee?

  Sasha, she dated a rugby player.

• 6:42Speaker 02

  No, no, it's a footy, a footy, a footy player.

• 6:44Speaker 03

  Oh, really? Who?

• 6:45Speaker 02

  Yeah, in Australia.

• 6:48Speaker 03

  Australian, Australian rules football. Australian rules football.

• 6:52Speaker 02

  Um, yeah.

• 6:53Speaker 03

  Oh, wow, so they're crazy.

• 6:54Bobby Lee?

  Yeah.

• 6:54Speaker 03

  They're wild.

• 6:55Speaker 02

  Why did you have to go so weird?

• 6:57Bobby Lee?

  No, because when I was dating.

• 6:58Speaker 03

  He gave me, he told me about your dating history.

• 7:03Bobby Lee?

  Yeah. Yeah, so, but as a, what club was hot in your neighborhood where you grew up? And what would people support?

• 7:12Speaker 03

  They support, all the Jews supported Tottenham.

• 7:14Bobby Lee?

  Oh.

• 7:16Speaker 03

  And Tottenham were known as the Yids. Now, for people out there who don't know, Yids is like the N-word for Jews.

• 7:25Bobby Lee?

  Wait, wait, Yiddies?

• 7:27Speaker 03

  Yid.

• 7:27Bobby Lee?

  You got the same.

• 7:28Speaker 03

  Yid is the.

• 7:30Bobby Lee?

  Am I in trouble by even saying it?

• 7:31Speaker 03

  No, not really. It's cool to hate Jews at the moment.

• 7:36Speaker 03

  It's completely in. It's back in. Retro, we're reliving the fun. It's fun in the back end. And it's cool to hate the chill. So, yeah, you can say it. I mean, technically you can't, but you know.

• 7:51Bobby Lee?

  Because, look at this.

• 7:52Speaker 03

  And you're a Gooner.

• 7:53Bobby Lee?

  I'm a Gooner.

• 7:54Speaker 03

  Okay, so I am sort of a Gooner.

• 7:55Bobby Lee?

  Or you can't just do that.

• 7:57Speaker 03

  So, what do you mean?

• 7:59Bobby Lee?

  All of a sudden, you're.

• 8:00Speaker 03

  So anyway, so basically, I was, my first ever football match, I saw Tottenham play against Chelsea.

• 8:07Bobby Lee?

  Oh.

• 8:07Speaker 03

  And my mate got me tickets in Chelsea. Chelsea hated Tottenham.

• 8:12Bobby Lee?

  Yeah.

• 8:12Speaker 03

  And I was sitting there with my girlfriend at the time, who was Jewish. And they start chanting, Yidoh! Like, there's 40,000 people shouting, Yidoh! And I'm obviously Jewish, trying to hide the fact that I'm Jewish, you know, miming. And then my girlfriend.

• 8:29Bobby Lee?

  You just yell that out loud?

• 8:30Speaker 03

  My girl, yeah, of course. That's how they would chant against Tottenham.

• 8:33Bobby Lee?

  Yidoh!

• 8:34Speaker 03

  Yidoh! And then basically, my girlfriend shouted, shut up! Shut up! And all of these terrifying people in Chelsea, they had at the time, they were, had the Chelsea Supporters Club that were kind of, you know, football hooligans. And they stopped and they turned to me. And I was like, and I just pointed at her.

• 8:58Bobby Lee?

  Wait, were you known that or no?

• 8:59Speaker 03

  No, no, no.

• 9:00Bobby Lee?

  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, young guy.

• 9:01Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 9:02Bobby Lee?

  Yeah. Wow, dude.

• 9:03Speaker 02

  Wait, but you go swimming now in the ocean?

• 9:05Speaker 03

  So I went swimming in the pandemic. I, we moved to Australia. And I had an old mate of mine from Scotland. And the first morning, he turned up at seven in the morning, he goes, big man, we're going swimming. And we went swimming in the ocean every day. And there were like 10 people who went swimming every day.

• 9:24Bobby Lee?

  Yeah.

• 9:25Speaker 03

  And I remember at one point, one of them, I think died at one point. It was the beginning of the pandemic. We were like.

• 9:31Bobby Lee?

  What?

• 9:31Speaker 03

  What? Well, I don't know if it was connected, I don't know if it was connected with the vaccines, and I'm pro-vaccine.

• 9:39Speaker 03

  I think one of them had an allergic reaction to one of the vaccines.

• 9:42Bobby Lee?

  No.

• 9:43Speaker 03

  And basically drowned.

• 9:45Speaker 02

  He had a myocarditis.

• 9:46Speaker 03

  It was a she, sexist, yeah.

• 9:50Bobby Lee?

  It is funny how he drowned, but it's like probably the vaccine, though.

• 9:53Speaker 03

  No, you're right. She's basically drowned. But we swam every day. It was like, I became the king off the, there were about 12 people who'd swim at seven in the morning every day. And we decided to get a thermometer, a bath thermometer. And you was kind of respected if you had a thermometer. You were like.

• 10:10Bobby Lee?

  You just have one on you?

• 10:11Speaker 03

  Yeah, well, we bought it. And people were like, oh, yeah, it's like 11 degrees here. And we go, actually, it's 12 and a half.

• 10:18Bobby Lee?

  Wow.

• 10:19Speaker 03

  So we had, we had a lot of stage.

• 10:20Bobby Lee?

  Wow. How long have you been in the water for?

• 10:23Speaker 03

  Eventually, I mean, I started swimming in Perth. I'd swim for an hour.

• 10:27Bobby Lee?

  Mmm, perfect.

• 10:28Speaker 03

  And there you swim, because the surfers swim.

• 10:31Bobby Lee?

  Yeah.

• 10:31Speaker 03

  And so you swim, the safest place to swim is behind the surf.

• 10:35Speaker 02

  Behind, but through a channel?

• 10:36Speaker 03

  Uh, not through a channel.

• 10:39Speaker 02

  Well, you don't want to swim through the surf. I guess you could just back on there.

• 10:41Speaker 03

  So behind the surf, so you know, the beginning of the waves, you swim behind that and then you go and then you come back. But what we would do, we'd go up to like the oldest swimmer on the beach and just go, you know, where are the rips?

• 10:54Bobby Lee?

  What's a rip? What's a rip?

• 10:55Speaker 03

  A rip is a bit that pulls you out to sea. So you're suddenly swimming and, ah, you know, you've got.

• 11:01Bobby Lee?

  Out there, yeah. It's not a current, not a current.

• 11:04Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's a, so basically, it's the theory of water comes in with waves. The water has to go out.

• 11:10Bobby Lee?

  Yes.

• 11:10Speaker 03

  And you don't know where it is. So we'd go up to the oldest person.

• 11:13Bobby Lee?

  Wow, wow, wow, wow. And they know.

• 11:14Speaker 03

  Yeah, and then suddenly.

• 11:15Bobby Lee?

  Are you scared of Super El Nino?

• 11:17Speaker 03

  No.

• 11:20Speaker 03

  So you swim here?

• 11:23Speaker 03

  If I may?

• 11:24Bobby Lee?

  You're not gonna dress it?

• 11:24Speaker 02

  Yeah, I actually-

• 11:25Speaker 03

  You swim in the sea here?

• 11:26Speaker 02

  I spearfish and I-

• 11:28Bobby Lee?

  She's a spear-

• 11:29Speaker 03

  Oh my goodness.

• 11:29Speaker 02

  And I was a competitive swimmer my whole life.

• 11:32Speaker 03

  Wow.

• 11:32Speaker 02

  But California water-

• 11:33Speaker 03

  Which strokes, if I may ask?

• 11:34Speaker 02

  I am a 200 butterflyer.

• 11:35Speaker 03

  Wow, so you're very strong.

• 11:37Bobby Lee?

  She's very strong, yeah.

• 11:38Speaker 02

  I've got big laps.

• 11:38Bobby Lee?

  We dated for 10 years, Sasha.

• 11:40Speaker 03

  You two?

• 11:40Bobby Lee?

  We, yeah.

• 11:41Speaker 03

  You were-

• 11:42Bobby Lee?

  And we broke up.

• 11:42Speaker 02

  10 years.

• 11:43Speaker 03

  Are you still dating now?

• 11:44Bobby Lee?

  No.

• 11:45Speaker 03

  What happened? Why did you break up?

• 11:47Bobby Lee?

  Oh, you're turning the tide!

• 11:48Speaker 03

  Hey, but what happened?

• 11:49Bobby Lee?

  I love the turn of tide.

• 11:50Speaker 03

  But you're in the same room. This is a great break.

• 11:52Speaker 02

  Oh yeah, I love him.

• 11:53Bobby Lee?

  I love her too!

• 11:55Speaker 03

  Why, why didn't it work out? Why didn't it work out?

• 11:58Bobby Lee?

  Porn.

• 11:59Speaker 02

  Porn.

• 11:59Bobby Lee?

  Porn.

• 12:00Speaker 03

  You became a porn star. You started working-

• 12:04Bobby Lee?

  I started an OnlyFans. Started OnlyFans, yeah.

• 12:07Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 12:07Bobby Lee?

  Anal penetration, only anal. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Can I say anal?

• 12:11Speaker 02

  I think so.

• 12:11Bobby Lee?

  Okay, sorry.

• 12:12Speaker 03

  If you mispronounce it, anal.

• 12:16Speaker 03

  And so-

• 12:17Bobby Lee?

  Yeah.

• 12:17Speaker 03

  Porn led-

• 12:18Bobby Lee?

  I was watching two-

• 12:19Speaker 03

  You were 10 years together?

• 12:20Speaker 02

  10 years.

• 12:21Bobby Lee?

  Yeah.

• 12:21Speaker 03

  Wow, amazing.

• 12:22Bobby Lee?

  And then what happens is you get in a cycle. Why won't you look at me?

• 12:26Speaker 03

  I just assumed that she finished it.

• 12:30Speaker 03

  I'm right, right?

• 12:31Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 12:32Speaker 03

  Yeah, obviously.

• 12:32Bobby Lee?

  Are you done?

• 12:33Speaker 02

  I never said anything.

• 12:36Speaker 03

  Are you done with the relationship?

• 12:38Bobby Lee?

  No, no. The relationship's done and what happened was I, we broke up.

• 12:43Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 12:44Bobby Lee?

  And then she met somebody else.

• 12:46Speaker 03

  Wow. And he's cool with you just hanging in the room with him now?

• 12:48Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 12:49Bobby Lee?

  I'm friends with him.

• 12:50Speaker 02

  Yeah, he's friends with him.

• 12:50Bobby Lee?

  I'm friends with all my girlfriends.

• 12:52Speaker 03

  Fantastic.

• 12:53Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, so it's like, you know, it was difficult when her baby was born.

• 12:57Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 12:57Bobby Lee?

  But then I met him.

• 12:58Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 12:59Bobby Lee?

  And what a joy.

• 13:00Speaker 03

  What a joy.

• 13:00Bobby Lee?

  What a beautiful joy.

• 13:01Speaker 03

  Yeah, lovely.

• 13:02Bobby Lee?

  Full of live eagles. I love it. But, yeah, you know. What's so funny? Why are you laughing?

• 13:09Bobby Lee?

  I don't wanna move on. I love it. Yeah, Sasha wants to know, dude.

• 13:12Speaker 03

  No, I'm interested in it.

• 13:13Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 13:13Speaker 03

  Wow, congratulations.

• 13:14Bobby Lee?

  Yeah.

• 13:15Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 13:16Speaker 03

  Not for the baby, just for-

• 13:18Speaker 02

  But do you ever-

• 13:18Speaker 03

  Not being with Bobby anymore. Great achievement, you're a star.

• 13:23Speaker 02

  Do you ever dive? Do you dive? Do you free dive? Do you-

• 13:26Speaker 03

  I do dive, not freediving, yeah.

• 13:28Speaker 02

  Scuba?

• 13:29Speaker 03

  Scuba, yeah. I used to, so you do, I mean, Western Australia, we're still on the-

• 13:34Bobby Lee?

  I don't know why.

• 13:35Speaker 03

  Swimming thing.

• 13:35Speaker 02

  I am, I'm into it.

• 13:36Speaker 03

  Okay, Western Australia, so basically there's a lot of sharks in the water.

• 13:39Speaker 02

  Very sharks.

• 13:40Speaker 03

  Because I went there, I don't know how long we're gonna talk about this, but-

• 13:45Speaker 03

  It's gorgeous, amazing beaches and no one is swimming.

• 13:47Bobby Lee?

  Wow.

• 13:47Speaker 03

  And I go, why is no one swimming? And they go, well, listen, Mike, you know, 10 years ago, somebody got bit by a shark and they brought him out on a Cottlesley Beach and the guy bled to death in front of the whole, whole of Perth. And basically everyone was traumatized.

• 14:03Bobby Lee?

  Yeah.

• 14:03Speaker 03

  And no one went swimming. And I thought, I've gotta swim. And I spoke to the fisherman, there's like local guys fishing. I go, what are you fishing for? I'm fishing for shark, mate. I've got a tiger. I caught a tiger last week.

• 14:17Bobby Lee?

  Oh my god, oh my god.

• 14:17Speaker 03

  And so I thought, I thought to myself, I go, I'm gonna swim every day, because what's the likelihood of getting gobbled up by a shark if there hasn't been a single shark attack for five years? So I knew there were loads of sharks swimming around me, but I thought it's a good mental process to counter anxiety, to swim knowing there are sharks around you. And then you just, you just kind of repeat the probability in your mind. I mean, you must do this, you know, you must-

• 14:44Bobby Lee?

  Well, one time when we were dating, she's like, let's swim with the sharks. We did that. And we had to take a class.

• 14:50Speaker 03

  Oh, really?

• 14:51Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, you can't lock eyes. You can't wait.

• 14:54Speaker 02

  You have to lock.

• 14:54Bobby Lee?

  Oh, you do? Oh, fuck! You have to lock eyes!

• 14:57Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's the higher-

• 14:58Bobby Lee?

  I've been locking eyes!

• 14:59Speaker 02

  And you can't swim underneath them. You gotta stay above them. Yeah.

• 15:03Speaker 03

  Anyway, the moment I left Perth-

• 15:05Bobby Lee?

  Yeah.

• 15:05Speaker 03

  One week after, a guy went out swimming. His goggles came back. He got eaten.

• 15:10Bobby Lee?

  Oh my god.

• 15:11Speaker 03

  Almost to the day of the five years, yeah.

• 15:14Bobby Lee?

  Wow. What is that like?

• 15:17Speaker 03

  Getting eaten by- Bobby.

• 15:20Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Tell me about it.

• 15:21Speaker 03

  It wasn't me.

• 15:22Bobby Lee?

  I know.

• 15:23Speaker 03

  That was somebody else got eaten by the shark.

• 15:25Bobby Lee?

  But what would that be like?

• 15:26Speaker 03

  I'm still alive.

• 15:27Bobby Lee?

  What would you do?

• 15:28Speaker 03

  Well, I actually, I-

• 15:29Bobby Lee?

  I'd watch you on the side.

• 15:31Speaker 03

  Well, I also thought this, I also thought, unless you're religious and you believe in an afterlife, I go, what's the worst that can happen? You have like the last 30 seconds of your life are awful, but then you can't remember it. You've had a great life, you've been swimming, you've been living the day. And the last 30 seconds, which you can't remember unless you believe in heaven.

• 15:49Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, do you believe in heaven?

• 15:50Speaker 03

  I don't think so, no.

• 15:52Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, me?

• 15:52Speaker 03

  Yeah, you think I'd do my job if I believed in heaven?

• 15:56Speaker 03

  You think you'd be interviewing me if I believed in heaven?

• 15:59Bobby Lee?

  Yeah.

• 16:00Speaker 03

  My god, that paparazzi thing is so unnerving. And it's quite intimidating.

• 16:05Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, yeah. Will you stop that paparazzi bullshit?

• 16:07Speaker 03

  No, you can do it. I mean, I know what you're actually doing.

• 16:08Bobby Lee?

  This is insane, all right?

• 16:09Speaker 03

  No, it's mad.

• 16:10Bobby Lee?

  You've never done this with another guest.

• 16:11Speaker 03

  That lens is so long, it's actually almost, almost touching my nose, yeah.

• 16:16Bobby Lee?

  Sasha, he's never done this before.

• 16:17Speaker 03

  Yeah, exactly.

• 16:18Bobby Lee?

  All right. Relax, dude.

• 16:19Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 16:20Bobby Lee?

  All right? Yeah, he's a star. Okay, good.

• 16:28Bobby Lee?

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• 16:32Speaker 03

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• 16:33Bobby Lee?

  Prize picks all day long, baby.

• 16:36Speaker 03

  All day.

• 16:38Bobby Lee?

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• 16:51Speaker 02

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• 17:07Speaker 04

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• 17:28Speaker 00

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• 17:30Speaker 05

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• 17:35Speaker 04

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• 17:36Speaker 05

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• 17:41Speaker 04

  Less!

• 17:42Bobby Lee?

  More!

• 17:42Speaker 00

  Do one more for fun.

• 17:43Speaker 05

  All right, what about Jamie, or what about Jalen Smith? Is he gonna get eight and a half, more or less points?

• 17:49Speaker 02

  More.

• 17:50Bobby Lee?

  Less.

• 17:50Speaker 04

  Love Jalen. More!

• 17:52Bobby Lee?

  Less.

• 17:52Speaker 00

  More?

• 17:53Speaker 04

  More!

• 17:53Speaker 00

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• 17:54Speaker 04

  Because Jalen's the man.

• 17:55Speaker 00

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• 18:05Bobby Lee?

  Oh, baby, PrizePicks.

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• 18:53Speaker 00

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• 19:15Bobby Lee?

  So, when you, I have a question. Like, when you're doing a character like Bruno or Borat, any of these characters, do you Meisner it? I mean, are you that guy two weeks before shooting, or do you just go into it?

• 19:28Speaker 03

  So do you mean, is it Meisner, is it method acting and that?

• 19:31Bobby Lee?

  What I'm saying is, is that are you Borat, like, weeks before you're shooting? Oh, you don't do that?

• 19:36Speaker 03

  No.

• 19:36Bobby Lee?

  Yeah.

• 19:36Speaker 03

  So, I mean, it became,

• 19:41Speaker 03

  out of necessity, I started, like, for example, changing my underwear. So each character has their own underwear.

• 19:47Bobby Lee?

  No.

• 19:47Speaker 03

  I go to work, I take off my underwear, and I put on the character's underwear. Why? Because early on, I mean, these things are iterative, so I did Borat at Gay Pride. This was the beginning of Borat. And somebody said, you know, take your trousers off. I took them off and I was wearing my Sasha's underpants. And they went, like, listen, mate, you're not, why are they still Australian?

• 20:14Speaker 03

  And they go, you're not real. And so I got busted. So after, I always wore underwear. On that same Gay Pride thing, I was, it was the beginning of, there was a very large, I think, I'm trying to work out the correct term now.

• 20:26Bobby Lee?

  Yeah.

• 20:26Speaker 03

  So, wearing a dress, you know, but clearly was a man. This was, you know, 1995. And I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, you're a beautiful sexy woman. But, you know, you know, about 260 pounds, pure muscle.

• 20:43Bobby Lee?

  Wow.

• 20:43Speaker 03

  6'6". And then finally, he was like, you know, you wanna come and have sex? And I was like, yeah, whoa, whoa, whoa, sex at that. The beginning of Borat, and I had a camera with me.

• 20:54Bobby Lee?

  Yeah.

• 20:55Speaker 03

  And he brings me into the toilet, into a cubicle, and I'm waiting with the camera to follow me into the cubicle. And it shuts the cubicle, and I'm suddenly with a guy who is three times the strength of me. And he's pulling down-

• 21:09Bobby Lee?

  No!

• 21:10Speaker 03

  My, yeah, my clothes. And I realized this, this has backfired.

• 21:17Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, obviously.

• 21:18Speaker 03

  And this is gonna end badly.

• 21:19Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 21:20Speaker 03

  And it was at that point, I remembered a physics lesson, age 30, where I'd learned about leverage. And I realized if I pulled the end of the door and used my leg, I could open the door. So I opened the door.

• 21:33Bobby Lee?

  Use your-

• 21:33Speaker 03

  And out I went, and me and him didn't end up being married.

• 21:38Speaker 06

  Have you ever had a moment like that, where you're like, wait, stop, this is all, it's a joke, like, I'm just joking, like, whoa, whoa, whoa? Do you ever drop it, like, scared, like?

• 21:45Speaker 03

  I've never dropped it. I've never dropped it. I mean, and I don't know why, so-

• 21:50Bobby Lee?

  I'm banned, I was banned from the MGM Grand, all of them, for many, many years.

• 21:54Speaker 03

  Really? For what? For coming in with one test.

• 21:59Bobby Lee?

  Close, yeah, yeah. No, I showed my ass crack on stage.

• 22:04Speaker 03

  Wow.

• 22:04Speaker 00

  It's his closer.

• 22:05Bobby Lee?

  It's my closer.

• 22:06Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 22:06Bobby Lee?

  You know what I mean?

• 22:06Speaker 02

  Well, they had specifically asked him not to show that ass crack, and he said, I will not be showing my ass crack, and he showed the ass.

• 22:13Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 22:13Bobby Lee?

  Because you're in the moment, it's a packed room, you know what I mean? And you're like, I'll show it.

• 22:17Speaker 03

  Yeah. It's hard.

• 22:19Bobby Lee?

  It's hard not to.

• 22:20Speaker 03

  It's hard not to.

• 22:22Bobby Lee?

  Like, you know, the green thing with Borat, the green-

• 22:24Speaker 03

  Yeah, the green thong.

• 22:25Bobby Lee?

  Thong, right?

• 22:26Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 22:26Bobby Lee?

  It's so hard not to put that on, right?

• 22:28Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 22:29Bobby Lee?

  Yeah.

• 22:29Speaker 03

  Well, I don't know about that.

• 22:32Speaker 03

  It's easy not to put it on. But sometimes you get carried away being on stage. We had

• 22:37Bobby Lee?

  That.

• 22:37Speaker 03

  In that movie Bruno, so, oh, that is, yeah, that is the talk.

• 22:41Bobby Lee?

  Real question, quick question.

• 22:43Speaker 03

  Please, please.

• 22:43Bobby Lee?

  Did you sell those?

• 22:45Speaker 03

  We didn't, no, we didn't. They started reproducing them afterwards.

• 22:48Speaker 06

  You should have.

• 22:49Speaker 04

  That's so much money.

• 22:50Bobby Lee?

  I know.

• 22:50Speaker 06

  So much money.

• 22:51Speaker 03

  It was really good. By the way, the tailor actually had to measure my genitalia. To make that perfect.

• 22:59Bobby Lee?

  Can I be honest with you? Based on this, I'm not gay.

• 23:02Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 23:02Bobby Lee?

  You know what I mean? But, wow.

• 23:05Speaker 03

  Thank you.

• 23:06Bobby Lee?

  No, I'm being real. Just based on this, ooh la la, muy muy bueno.

• 23:12Speaker 04

  Oh, French and Spanish.

• 23:13Bobby Lee?

  Yeah. Muchas gracias to you, my friend.

• 23:15Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 23:15Bobby Lee?

  Look at that thing.

• 23:16Speaker 03

  Thank you. I'm very hairy then.

• 23:17Speaker 06

  Who comes up with this design? Like, who's like, oh, this is one of them?

• 23:20Speaker 03

  We, uh, we had a great designer called Jason Alper, and there was also, we saw a photo of somebody with a similar thing on.

• 23:29Speaker 06

  That is crazy.

• 23:31Speaker 03

  They're actually quite comfy, yeah.

• 23:32Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, they look so comfy. I gotta get a pair.

• 23:34Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 23:34Bobby Lee?

  And, um, wow, maybe wax your body?

• 23:39Speaker 03

  Well, not for that character. For the next character, for Bruno. Bruno had no hair other than a landing strap.

• 23:45Bobby Lee?

  That's right, that's right, that's right.

• 23:45Speaker 03

  And we'd be in production meetings, and it was one guy's job to actually shave me every day.

• 23:50Bobby Lee?

  Wow.

• 23:51Speaker 03

  Because I tried waxing, and I got a reaction, and then I got, I took some antibiotics, because and I got candida.

• 23:59Speaker 02

  Oh, candida, yeah, yeast.

• 24:00Speaker 03

  So I got a vaginal yeast infection.

• 24:03Speaker 04

  Wait, how does that happen?

• 24:04Bobby Lee?

  Wait.

• 24:04Speaker 03

  Well, so I got

• 24:07Bobby Lee?

  Where, where? What part of the body?

• 24:08Speaker 03

  No, no, no. It said, you know, on the, on the packet of the antibiotics I had, it was for vaginal yeast infections. Because I got candida. So I was so run down, I was so, I lost so much weight.

• 24:21Bobby Lee?

  Oh.

• 24:21Speaker 03

  And I had this thing, and the antibiotics, I got candida.

• 24:24Speaker 02

  You can have an overgrowth anywhere.

• 24:26Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 24:26Bobby Lee?

  Sometimes my penis smells.

• 24:27Speaker 02

  I know.

• 24:28Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 24:28Speaker 03

  I actually don't know that. When I take it, it's like, I didn't want to mention it, because I didn't want to go, is that your cock?

• 24:35Bobby Lee?

  I'll do a quick sniff.

• 24:37Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 24:37Bobby Lee?

  You know what I mean?

• 24:38Speaker 03

  How?

• 24:39Bobby Lee?

  You want to know my system?

• 24:40Speaker 03

  What, you have a?

• 24:41Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, I have a way of doing it.

• 24:42Speaker 03

  What, you're kind of an ultra bendy?

• 24:46Speaker 02

  Ultra bendy.

• 24:47Bobby Lee?

  What does ultra bendy mean?

• 24:49Speaker 03

  Well, you're very flexible.

• 24:50Bobby Lee?

  No, smell your penis. No, I do it with a thumb.

• 24:53Speaker 03

  Yeah, why?

• 24:54Bobby Lee?

  Because I want to smell it.

• 24:55Speaker 03

  Why?

• 24:56Bobby Lee?

  Because I, sometimes it smells funky.

• 24:59Speaker 03

  So what?

• 24:59Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, because my girlfriend's coming over.

• 25:01Speaker 03

  Ah, okay, so it's considered.

• 25:03Bobby Lee?

  I'll show you what I do, right?

• 25:04Speaker 04

  I don't think he asked.

• 25:04Speaker 03

  This is very different from the last interview.

• 25:08Bobby Lee?

  It is?

• 25:09Speaker 03

  Yeah, okay.

• 25:10Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, I'll just, you know, my girlfriend's coming over, you know, just be chilling.

• 25:15Speaker 03

  Okay, I get the idea. I get the idea.

• 25:16Speaker 06

  So this is where I thought it'd be a little more slick than that. People are eating sushi, people are eating sushi, man.

• 25:21Bobby Lee?

  Is that uncomfortable? I'm sorry, cut that off.

• 25:23Speaker 03

  No, no, no. You putting your hand and touching your

• 25:26Bobby Lee?

  I'm not gonna touch you again.

• 25:27Speaker 03

  Actually, I'm not gonna use that term.

• 25:29Bobby Lee?

  Yeah. So, yeah, sometimes it smells, but let's move on. I don't know why I just revealed that. Um, but it's clean now. So, we're all good, we're all good.

• 25:36Speaker 03

  Okay, correct.

• 25:37Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, and you have beautiful olive skin.

• 25:39Speaker 03

  Thank you very much. I appreciate it.

• 25:41Bobby Lee?

  I really do. I've always thought that.

• 25:43Speaker 03

  Really?

• 25:43Bobby Lee?

  Yeah.

• 25:44Speaker 03

  You never mentioned it before.

• 25:45Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, because, you know, when we see each other, it's brief.

• 25:47Speaker 04

  Wait, where did you guys first meet?

• 25:48Speaker 03

  Well, we were in The Dictator together as well.

• 25:50Bobby Lee?

  We were in The Dictator together. Thank you so much for that job. I was gonna get into that. Um, can I just say that, okay, I don't know if you know that, know this though, but I was struggling back then.

• 26:01Speaker 03

  No, I did not know that.

• 26:01Bobby Lee?

  Oh, yeah. Yeah, she was there with me. I had nothing going on.

• 26:05Speaker 03

  Really?

• 26:05Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, I couldn't get an audition, I couldn't, and I did that table read for you.

• 26:10Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 26:10Bobby Lee?

  And you gave me that job.

• 26:11Speaker 03

  You were hilarious, that's right.

• 26:12Bobby Lee?

  Thank you so much. And, um, that really was just a milestone for me.

• 26:17Speaker 03

  But you were absolutely hilarious.

• 26:19Bobby Lee?

  Oh, thank you so much.

• 26:20Speaker 03

  No, you're absolutely hilarious.

• 26:22Bobby Lee?

  Thank you. But that was really a cool, because I, you know, I, just that one day coming in and seeing, this is a, what, what are you doing?

• 26:30Speaker 02

  It's a fly.

• 26:31Bobby Lee?

  Oh, there's a fly?

• 26:31Speaker 02

  It's a pesky fly.

• 26:32Bobby Lee?

  Can you not do that?

• 26:32Speaker 03

  That's fine, that's fine. By the way, I can catch the fly.

• 26:35Speaker 04

  I'm sorry, no.

• 26:35Speaker 03

  If the fly lands, I will catch it. I'm serious. If you tell me where the fly has landed, I will catch it. I'll show you.

• 26:42Bobby Lee?

  Okay, all right.

• 26:43Speaker 03

  If it lands, but don't, just tell me where it is, don't approach it.

• 26:46Bobby Lee?

  Okay, okay.

• 26:47Speaker 03

  Do not warn it. Do not warn it that I'm gonna catch it, but I will catch this fly.

• 26:53Bobby Lee?

  But that, that

• 26:53Speaker 03

  I will stun it. I will stun it.

• 26:55Speaker 02

  How do you stun a fly?

• 26:56Speaker 03

  I will show you if the

• 26:57Speaker 02

  Without, you don't need a towel or a

• 26:59Speaker 03

  No, no, no, I will stun

• 27:01Bobby Lee?

  I do it with chopsticks.

• 27:02Speaker 03

  Really?

• 27:02Bobby Lee?

  Oh, yeah, I could, like that.

• 27:04Speaker 03

  Okay, that's a little, it's a bit of a roachish there.

• 27:06Bobby Lee?

  What?

• 27:07Speaker 03

  I will catch

• 27:08Bobby Lee?

  You don't use chopsticks?

• 27:09Speaker 03

  I do, but to eat

• 27:10Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, are you, oh, that's true. Are you good at the?

• 27:14Speaker 03

  I am actually pretty good.

• 27:15Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, you could, you seem like you're good. Yeah, yeah.

• 27:16Speaker 03

  Thank you. A lot of compliments.

• 27:18Speaker 04

  All right, dictator, dictator.

• 27:19Speaker 03

  Yeah, dictator, sorry.

• 27:20Bobby Lee?

  Oh, good. Oh, anyway, um, that first day of work, um, I was so nervous.

• 27:24Speaker 03

  Really? You were hilarious.

• 27:26Bobby Lee?

  I know, I can say I was nervous.

• 27:28Speaker 03

  Bruno audition, you were absolutely hilarious.

• 27:30Bobby Lee?

  Thank you so much. And I walked in to the, the makeup trailer, and it was Sasha, Ed Norton, Ben Kingsley,

• 27:38Speaker 04

  Oh my god.

• 27:38Bobby Lee?

  Anna Faris, I mean, just down the line that morning, right? And I couldn't fucking talk. That's how nervous I was.

• 27:47Speaker 03

  Oh, really?

• 27:48Bobby Lee?

  Yeah. But then once I got in, because I love Larry a lot. Larry Charles, he's great, you know, and so it's like, once I got on set, it was fine, but, um, yeah, it was a really good, I hate giving compliments, but, you know, I

• 27:58Speaker 03

  No, you've done a lot.

• 27:59Bobby Lee?

  Thank you so fucking, I know, I think you

• 28:00Speaker 03

  But you were absolutely hilarious.

• 28:02Bobby Lee?

  Thank you, all right.

• 28:03Speaker 03

  You were hilarious.

• 28:04Bobby Lee?

  All right, thank you.

• 28:04Speaker 03

  Firstly, you were hilarious in that, and the Bruno audition, I still remember.

• 28:07Bobby Lee?

  Thank you.

• 28:08Speaker 03

  Absolutely hilarious.

• 28:09Bobby Lee?

  Thank you for bringing that up, but anyway, um

• 28:11Speaker 04

  When you guys first met, was Bruno?

• 28:13Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 28:13Speaker 04

  Right, okay.

• 28:14Bobby Lee?

  That was the first time I met, yeah, yeah, and I was

• 28:15Speaker 03

  You missed the crazy sex scene, most of you. You're probably pretty lucky.

• 28:18Bobby Lee?

  I know.

• 28:19Speaker 03

  We had the pedal powered fucking machine.

• 28:21Bobby Lee?

  Oh my god, you know how committed I would, I would actually have that enter my body?

• 28:25Speaker 02

  Sorry to interrupt, but the fly is

• 28:27Speaker 03

  Where is it?

• 28:28Speaker 02

  As descended on the Red Bull can.

• 28:30Speaker 04

  Wait, shh, I want shh.

• 28:31Speaker 03

  Okay, here we go. This is where you need your camera. Are you ready? Yep.

• 28:37Speaker 06

  Oh my god!

• 28:40Speaker 04

  My god!

• 28:42Speaker 06

  What the fuck?

• 28:43Speaker 03

  There's a fly. There's a fly, it's still alive.

• 28:47Bobby Lee?

  I need it!

• 28:48Speaker 06

  What the fuck?

• 28:49Bobby Lee?

  Where the fuck, dude?

• 28:50Speaker 06

  What in the what the hell?

• 28:52Bobby Lee?

  Oh, my god.

• 28:54Speaker 04

  Put it in the Pringles can.

• 28:55Bobby Lee?

  Put it in the Pringles can, man.

• 28:56Speaker 06

  Oh my god.

• 28:59Speaker 03

  It's still alive, just

• 29:00Speaker 06

  Oh.

• 29:00Bobby Lee?

  Wow, dude.

• 29:03Speaker 02

  I think it flew out.

• 29:04Speaker 03

  Oh my god.

• 29:05Speaker 02

  It flew away.

• 29:06Speaker 03

  I know, it's there, that's it.

• 29:07Speaker 04

  No, there's a second one.

• 29:08Speaker 02

  Oh, the second one. Oh, yeah, it's still there, it's still there.

• 29:12Speaker 03

  Very nice.

• 29:13Speaker 06

  Dude, what?

• 29:14Speaker 04

  Hey, seriously.

• 29:15Bobby Lee?

  That was amazing.

• 29:16Speaker 03

  Here we go, swimming

• 29:18Bobby Lee?

  You've got that on film?

• 29:20Speaker 04

  Go watch L H E.

• 29:21Bobby Lee?

  Go watch L H E.

• 29:22Speaker 03

  Go and see L H E, who is that?

• 29:24Bobby Lee?

  L H E, dude.

• 29:26Speaker 03

  Whoa, I told you, stunned.

• 29:28Speaker 06

  Is it the sound, the sound does it or something?

• 29:31Speaker 04

  Okay, yeah, you don't have

• 29:32Bobby Lee?

  No, no, no, no, no, please teach us.

• 29:34Speaker 03

  This is my technique.

• 29:36Bobby Lee?

  I, I understand that, but

• 29:37Speaker 03

  Do you want me to teach you?

• 29:38Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 29:39Bobby Lee?

  Yes, I really do need to know.

• 29:41Speaker 03

  Okay, so flies are very intelligent.

• 29:44Speaker 02

  I believe it.

• 29:45Bobby Lee?

  It didn't really seem like it there.

• 29:48Speaker 03

  This is my theory.

• 29:50Bobby Lee?

  It didn't seem to move, but anyway.

• 29:52Speaker 03

  Uh, you know, I'm very empathetic. I can put myself in somebody else's, uh, position. I like to put myself in the position of, in this case, the fly.

• 30:00Bobby Lee?

  The fly, yeah.

• 30:01Speaker 03

  So the fly sees, the fly sees, again, this is my perception, my opinion, the fly sees a hand coming down, it sees the hand.

• 30:09Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 30:10Speaker 03

  It goes, fuck, and flies away. Doesn't fly Doesn't fly, doesn't stay there. The fly is not an idiot. Let's not belittle the fly.

• 30:21Bobby Lee?

  We're not belittling it.

• 30:22Speaker 02

  Got it, yeah.

• 30:23Bobby Lee?

  I like them, but it flees.

• 30:25Speaker 03

  The fly flees.

• 30:26Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 30:26Speaker 03

  It flies away. It's called a fly.

• 30:29Bobby Lee?

  Yeah.

• 30:29Speaker 03

  Why would we expect the fly to stay there? So what I do is, if the fly is here, right, you can use your, here we go, this is the If the fly is here, what I would do is I have my hand here and here.

• 30:44Bobby Lee?

  Uh huh.

• 30:45Speaker 03

  And that, they start moving together. I basically would do that.

• 30:49Bobby Lee?

  Yeah.

• 30:50Speaker 03

  The fly sees this one coming towards it, it flees that way.

• 30:53Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 30:54Speaker 03

  Then it sees that one, flees that way, and then it catches. If you get the right, if you get the right amount of power, you can actually just stun it.

• 31:02Bobby Lee?

  Sasha, can you put your hands apart like that again? Okay, so, the fly is here, why can't he go this way?

• 31:07Speaker 02

  He's underneath.

• 31:08Speaker 03

  He's not that intelligent.

• 31:09Bobby Lee?

  Oh, I see. He only

• 31:11Speaker 03

  We don't know.

• 31:12Bobby Lee?

  East West, East West is the only thing they know.

• 31:14Speaker 03

  Again, this is my opinion, but, you know, it's, it's predictable.

• 31:17Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, yeah. Wow, that was, you know, um, we've never had a guest on this program.

• 31:22Speaker 03

  Capture fly.

• 31:23Bobby Lee?

  Not just capture fly, um, exhibit, um, enormous amounts of pure talent and skill.

• 31:28Speaker 03

  Thank you very much. I do different voices, so I stay in character for a long time.

• 31:32Bobby Lee?

  Sasha has all of beautiful skin.

• 31:34Speaker 03

  Thank you.

• 31:34Bobby Lee?

  He's empathetic, right?

• 31:36Speaker 04

  Swims with sharks?

• 31:36Bobby Lee?

  And he can capture fucking flies, dude.

• 31:38Speaker 02

  Mainly.

• 31:38Speaker 03

  He swims with sharks.

• 31:39Bobby Lee?

  You swim with sharks as well, dude. What's this?

• 31:42Speaker 04

  People say this is another popular method, but I think Sasha's is more efficient.

• 31:45Speaker 03

  That seems ridiculous.

• 31:49Speaker 03

  That's a great way to phrase it.

• 31:51Bobby Lee?

  You're catapulting, what is going on?

• 31:53Speaker 03

  You have an erection? You hold somebody's erection?

• 31:59Speaker 03

  You slam somebody's erection?

• 32:01Bobby Lee?

  Yeah.

• 32:01Speaker 03

  Oh, okay, that's a thing, go, okay, sorry.

• 32:03Bobby Lee?

  Yeah.

• 32:03Speaker 03

  That seems absurd.

• 32:04Bobby Lee?

  It seems, but.

• 32:05Speaker 02

  Oh, you know, it creates speed is why.

• 32:07Speaker 06

  But that's not as fast as.

• 32:08Speaker 03

  No, I don't think the speed is, I think they are fast.

• 32:09Bobby Lee?

  Let me just see, right, okay.

• 32:11Speaker 03

  Okay, we'll try that, we can try that.

• 32:12Bobby Lee?

  That was pretty fast.

• 32:13Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 32:14Bobby Lee?

  Okay.

• 32:15Speaker 03

  Wiki How is unimpressive.

• 32:18Bobby Lee?

  Anyway, anybody who wants to catch a fly, you use Sacha Baron Cohen's technique.

• 32:21Speaker 03

  See the movie, Ali G, Who Is I?

• 32:23Bobby Lee?

  No, so, let's talk about the movie.

• 32:24Speaker 03

  Okay, sure.

• 32:25Bobby Lee?

  Do you don't want to?

• 32:26Speaker 03

  Yeah, I'd love to. You haven't seen it, though, we forgot to send you.

• 32:29Bobby Lee?

  Here's the thing, you guys forgot to send me, but I've seen.

• 32:32Speaker 03

  We are, we are on it. MGM, Amazon are on it.

• 32:35Bobby Lee?

  MGM and Amazon are on it.

• 32:37Speaker 03

  They just forgot.

• 32:38Bobby Lee?

  I'm gonna watch it tonight, so here's the deal, okay? Ali G, one of my favorite characters that you do, um, what was, I mean, I don't want to give away the plot line, but can you give me a sense of what it's about, or no?

• 32:50Speaker 03

  I would say it is, it's the craziest film I've ever done.

• 32:55Bobby Lee?

  Really?

• 32:56Speaker 03

  It is the craziest film I've ever done, it is set in the real world with real people.

• 33:01Bobby Lee?

  Wow.

• 33:01Speaker 03

  And there are things in it, scenes in it, that you have never seen before, that you will never see again. It's basically my version of The Avengers.

• 33:09Bobby Lee?

  Wow.

• 33:10Speaker 03

  So I play three characters in it.

• 33:12Bobby Lee?

  Yeah.

• 33:12Speaker 03

  I play, I did a show called Who Is America?

• 33:15Bobby Lee?

  Uh huh.

• 33:15Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 33:16Speaker 03

  And I did this ultra woke character called Dr. Nyra Kane and Deguccello.

• 33:23Speaker 06

  So funny.

• 33:24Speaker 03

  NPR, t-shirt wearing guy who, um, he's a stay-at-home male mom and empathy doula. And I play the other character in it who's this sort of Krav Maga Israeli, claims he was in the Mossad, but is actually a complete bullshitter, who hangs out with ultra-right.

• 33:47Bobby Lee?

  That's you, dude?

• 33:48Speaker 03

  That's me.

• 33:49Bobby Lee?

  Oh my god, that's fucking funny, dude.

• 33:52Speaker 03

  And so.

• 33:53Bobby Lee?

  Can you give me a little taste of what that character sounds like, or no?

• 33:56Speaker 03

  My name is Ramurad. I've been in fourteen terrorist attacks and I, I have started three.

• 34:06Bobby Lee?

  Wow, dude.

• 34:07Speaker 03

  Yeah, so he.

• 34:08Bobby Lee?

  What a great character.

• 34:08Speaker 03

  But, yeah, you should check him out, there's some good stuff with him and Dick Cheney, also known as Dick Cheney.

• 34:17Speaker 03

  What was your favorite war and why?

• 34:19Bobby Lee?

  There's no actors in there, these are just regular people in it.

• 34:22Speaker 03

  No, these are real people, yeah.

• 34:23Bobby Lee?

  Yeah.

• 34:24Speaker 03

  So, um.

• 34:25Bobby Lee?

  Does it ever go wrong?

• 34:27Speaker 03

  Yeah, I mean, does it ever?

• 34:28Bobby Lee?

  Like, you're in an interview, you go, this is, this is, there's no way we can use this.

• 34:32Speaker 03

  Yeah, I mean, sometimes I'll come in and I just go, the dynamic is wrong, or.

• 34:35Bobby Lee?

  Yeah.

• 34:36Speaker 03

  If I feel they're at all suspicious, I'd stop it, so.

• 34:39Bobby Lee?

  What do you mean suspicious?

• 34:40Speaker 03

  Well, if they think something's up.

• 34:43Bobby Lee?

  Oh, I see, yeah, yeah.

• 34:44Speaker 03

  Hold on, is this real, is it, am I?

• 34:46Speaker 02

  Is there ever a, um, a time where you know they're suspicious and you think they're gonna carry on anyways?

• 34:52Speaker 03

  Well, they will, you know, I don't want that, I don't want everyone ever playing along. So the whole thing has to be.

• 34:57Bobby Lee?

  Right.

• 34:58Speaker 03

  They don't know what's going on.

• 34:59Bobby Lee?

  What's going on. It's, it's hard to believe that people don't know it's you, though.

• 35:03Speaker 02

  How do you bail last minute?

• 35:05Bobby Lee?

  It's like, it's Ali, he's one of those famous characters in the world, how the?

• 35:08Speaker 03

  But, so what we have is, we have like a really big research team who are calling people up. We, we did scenes in England, now in England.

• 35:16Bobby Lee?

  Yeah.

• 35:16Speaker 03

  The character became so popular that the mother of the Queen of England, the Queen Mother, was a fan. And apparently, according to her, the grandchildren, William and Harry, who are now grown men,

• 35:31Speaker 03

  at Christmas lunch, she, you know, the Queen said, how was lunch, and she goes, bu yaka shah.

• 35:37Speaker 03

  So that's how popular Ali G became in England.

• 35:39Bobby Lee?

  Wow.

• 35:39Speaker 03

  And so, we have a scene with the doctor and we had to interview about 5,000 doctors until we found one who didn't know who Ali G was.

• 35:47Bobby Lee?

  Wow.

• 35:48Speaker 03

  But here it was, you know, and we never released the Ali G movie, so it was easier, but it's still, you know, it is a very time-consuming period.

• 35:56Bobby Lee?

  I bet it is, yeah, man, the research that you must fucking do, wow.

• 36:00Speaker 03

  So, yeah, so it is kind of like The Avengers, it's an action movie, but with real people. They don't realize they're in a thriller action movie.

• 36:08Bobby Lee?

  Wow, you wanna see the trailer, or no?

• 36:10Speaker 03

  Yeah, sure.

• 36:10Speaker 04

  I'll just let it play, because I don't wanna get flagged on YouTube.

• 36:12Bobby Lee?

  Oh, you wanna be flagged?

• 36:13Speaker 04

  See the character.

• 36:13Bobby Lee?

  Wow, dude.

• 36:16Bobby Lee?

  Who, who is that Ross, Ross, like, is that Ali?

• 36:17Speaker 03

  This is like, oh, yeah.

• 36:21Speaker 04

  How do people not know that's you, though?

• 36:27Speaker 03

  That's his house.

• 36:27Speaker 06

  Do you also, is part of your crew, like, security as well?

• 36:32Speaker 03

  Oh, yes, yeah, yeah, we have, you know, when it's dangerous, yeah.

• 36:35Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 36:36Bobby Lee?

  I cannot wa, you promised you'll send it to me tonight?

• 36:39Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 36:39Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, I cannot wait to fucking watch this thing.

• 36:41Speaker 03

  I cannot believe that we didn't send it to you before, but anyway.

• 36:43Bobby Lee?

  Wow.

• 36:44Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 36:45Bobby Lee?

  And it's shot mainly?

• 36:46Speaker 03

  That's Julie, that's Ali's girlfriend.

• 36:49Bobby Lee?

  Wow.

• 36:50Speaker 03

  By the way, he doesn't have dreads under there, he's got like plastic bags in, in the Rasta hat. He's just tasting of.

• 36:57Bobby Lee?

  Did you audition her?

• 36:59Speaker 03

  Um, yeah, yeah, but she's brilliant.

• 37:02Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, she's.

• 37:02Speaker 03

  Morgana is unbelievable, she's a very famous English comedian.

• 37:06Bobby Lee?

  Wow. Wow, wow, wow, wow. So, Amazon, it's already out, or no? When it's come out?

• 37:11Speaker 03

  It's coming out, uh, it's in the cinemas, we're doing just two days in the cinemas and then going straight to Amazon. So next weekend, 23rd and 24th.

• 37:22Bobby Lee?

  What, what is that? I can't wait.

• 37:25Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, as I said, it turns into an action film, there are.

• 37:29Bobby Lee?

  What is that?

• 37:29Speaker 03

  These are, these are Mossad, uh, butt guns. These are, these are guns that fire their, like, anti-sexual violence.

• 37:40Bobby Lee?

  Wow. What was the stage on, is that Coachella, what is that?

• 37:43Speaker 03

  Yeah, that is at a, that's, um, at a Dead Mouse concert.

• 37:46Bobby Lee?

  Oh, Dead Mouse concert.

• 37:47Speaker 03

  Ali G ends up with a dead mouse thing on his head. In front of 70,000 people, yeah.

• 37:53Bobby Lee?

  Wow, dude.

• 37:54Speaker 03

  So it's a lot of him in the world of TikTok, that's a very famous general who's wearing, doing an ASMR video.

• 38:03Speaker 03

  Talking about the danger of Iran.

• 38:08Bobby Lee?

  What, does he suck it?

• 38:09Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 38:09Bobby Lee?

  Oh, yeah, wow.

• 38:11Speaker 06

  Amazing.

• 38:11Bobby Lee?

  Amazing.

• 38:12Speaker 06

  So funny.

• 38:13Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, you know, Sasha, how, do you see changes in the business? I mean, it's, it is different, right? How are you adjusting to all that?

• 38:21Speaker 03

  Well, you know, my speciality was making movies for cinemas, so, I mean, obviously, we did the Ali G show, that was to be watched at home, but we would, I got really crazily detailed about

• 38:39Speaker 03

  making sure that the laughter in a 300-seater cinema was perfect. So Bull Rat 1, if you watch it at home now, there'll be long gaps. You know, it's a bit like, if you look at an original Marx Brothers movie, there'll sometimes be like a three-second gap between, where nothing's going. So we were, so I was just, we would record the laughter every single time and we would cut the movie to within a frame, really within a couple of frames.

• 39:04Bobby Lee?

  Wow.

• 39:05Speaker 03

  To make sure that the laughter was riding like a stand-up gig.

• 39:09Bobby Lee?

  Wow.

• 39:09Speaker 03

  So it's cut for a 300-person cinema.

• 39:12Bobby Lee?

  Wow, wow, because that scene where that had that race with the, uh, remember the Jewish, the, the big panic?

• 39:19Speaker 06

  The running of the Jew?

• 39:19Bobby Lee?

  The Jew, and then the laying, and then the laying the egg?

• 39:22Speaker 03

  Yes, yes.

• 39:22Bobby Lee?

  And the egg cracking, and then the kids eating it?

• 39:25Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 39:25Bobby Lee?

  Is, my brother and I watched that in the theater, we were on the ground collapsed. And that, and I'm a pure stand-up dude.

• 39:32Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 39:33Bobby Lee?

  And, you know, I think why stand-ups love you is because you're just pure comedy.

• 39:38Speaker 03

  Thank you, I mean, listen.

• 39:39Bobby Lee?

  You have the skill set and we, we understand it, and your game, dude, has just been always elite and we, we love it.

• 39:45Speaker 03

  Thank you, man.

• 39:46Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, yeah, we, we see you, that's why when I see you with Jeff Ross, all these people.

• 39:49Speaker 03

  Oh, I love it.

• 39:50Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, you, you, you're a part of that, you know what I mean?

• 39:52Speaker 03

  No, I love it, well, I think as well was, we want laughs, you know.

• 39:56Bobby Lee?

  Dude, look at this thing, dude, this is.

• 39:59Speaker 03

  The Jew head.

• 40:00Bobby Lee?

  The Jew head, dude.

• 40:02Speaker 02

  Wait, is, is Drusky in this one?

• 40:04Speaker 03

  Drusky, no, no, no, but I just went and did a.

• 40:07Speaker 02

  Oh, you did a thing with Drusky, right?

• 40:09Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 40:10Speaker 03

  Yeah, he's very, brilliant.

• 40:12Bobby Lee?

  He's brilliant, yeah. Wow, dude.

• 40:14Speaker 03

  Brilliant, there goes, she's laying an egg.

• 40:15Speaker 06

  What's your process of like developing a new character? Because you've had so many hit characters that are so good, are you basing it where like you see someone online or on TV and you're like, oh, I could do this, this is like a guy who I emulate from?

• 40:26Speaker 03

  It's, it varies the whole time, so like Bull Rat? How did Bull Rat happen? Well, um, I decided I wanted to do a foreign character.

• 40:37Bobby Lee?

  Yeah.

• 40:38Speaker 03

  Who didn't know much about England. And I was doing a TV show called F2F, it was, there were about 200 people would watch it every day.

• 40:45Bobby Lee?

  Yeah.

• 40:46Speaker 03

  It was like a kid, I was the host of it, crazy. So it was like.

• 40:49Bobby Lee?

  It was a kid's show?

• 40:50Speaker 03

  A teen discussion program.

• 40:52Bobby Lee?

  What? Wow, what?

• 40:54Speaker 06

  What?

• 40:55Speaker 03

  No, it's crazy, it was live every day.

• 40:57Bobby Lee?

  What?

• 40:58Speaker 03

  And I wanted to be a comedian.

• 41:00Bobby Lee?

  Yeah.

• 41:01Speaker 03

  And so what I decided to do was, in between segments, I would like shoot little stuff where I was playing different characters.

• 41:08Bobby Lee?

  Yeah.

• 41:09Speaker 03

  And.

• 41:11Speaker 03

  I did my first accidentally, I created the genre of a character in the real world. It was not intentional at all.

• 41:20Bobby Lee?

  Yeah.

• 41:20Speaker 03

  So I wish I could say like, oh, that's me. Yeah. Bloody, oh, wow. Wow. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So young.

• 41:26Bobby Lee?

  So young.

• 41:27Speaker 03

  So young. So it's a teen show. Yeah, yeah.

• 41:33Speaker 03

  But, wow.

• 41:35Bobby Lee?

  Wow, dude.

• 41:35Speaker 03

  Yes, so, oh, she then became quite famous. And we would discuss stuff every day, but, so Ali G was originally this kind of upper-class dude called Jocelyn Judo Hume. And he still had all the catchphrases about it. He says, "Booyaka, booyaka", you know, "Rusback", but he was far more extreme. He was an upper-class version. So I would go in this show and I would basically record these little bits an hour before the show, an hour and a half before, with this director called Mike Toppin. He was like this legendary editor who had worked on the Eling comedies. There was a period of like, the heyday of British movies. And he was like the main guy cutting all the comedies.

• 42:17Bobby Lee?

  Wow.

• 42:18Speaker 03

  And he lost all his money with this thing called the Lloyds Insurance Scandal.

• 42:22Speaker 06

  Oh, no.

• 42:22Speaker 03

  And it was terrible for him. It was great for me. I had this genius moment on this crap teen discussion show.

• 42:29Bobby Lee?

  Yeah.

• 42:29Speaker 03

  And we would go out. He goes, "Sasha, let's go out." And we went out one day with this character, Jocelyn Judo Hume. And I see these real skateboarders who look like me.

• 42:39Bobby Lee?

  Yeah.

• 42:39Speaker 03

  I've got a skateboard in my hand.

• 42:41Bobby Lee?

  Yeah.

• 42:42Speaker 03

  And I say to Mike, you know, and bear in mind, I've got a live show in an hour and a half. I go, I go, "Shall I go up to them and speak to them?" And he goes, "Yeah." By the way, he could have said no and I would not be sitting here today.

• 42:53Bobby Lee?

  Wow.

• 42:54Speaker 03

  This is, the takeaway from this is careful, there's a phrase in the music business, "Carefully you let on the bus", right? "Carefully you let on the tour bus." This guy was on the tour bus and he changed my life. He said, "Yes." He could have said, "We're on air in an hour and a half. Come on, let's shoot this thing." I go over to these skateboarders and I'm like, "Booyaka, booyaka", and I'm falling off my skateboard. They're like, "Yo, man, you're crap. Look at that." And after two minutes, I look at them, I go, I drop character. I go, "Hey, I'm playing a character." And they were like, "What?" And I had this moment that changed my life. I go, "They believed me."

• 43:31Bobby Lee?

  Wow.

• 43:31Speaker 03

  So that genre didn't exist, you know, in comedy at that time. There were sort of prank shows in the eighties where they'd do a lot, you know, somebody would wake up and they'd think they're on the ceiling and that kind of thing. It was a joke, where they're doing awful pranks to people, but it was a character in the real world. And I look at the director and I see this tourist bus, open-top, double-decker bus turn up. I look at him, I go, "We locked eyes." I run onto the bus. The camera follows me. I go upstairs, I grab the mic from the tour guide and I'm like, I start beatboxing and rapping. "Oh, yeah, check it out. Here I am, MC Jocelyn Judo Hume", you know, because.

• 44:09Bobby Lee?

  Wow.

• 44:10Speaker 03

  We go across Tower Bridge. We end up in a pub. I start breakdancing. They call the police. I start walking towards the bridge. There's a massive corporation there. I go in claiming my dad's upstairs. They get security, throw me out. And we run back to the channel. It's called London Weekend Television. I change into the clothes, go on air, you know, I'm talking with those teenagers. I go, we used to say, "Cut to VT" in a videotape, a pre-existing. And this guy is editing. These are the days of pneumatic, you know, you are pressing buttons and rewinding. And, you know, we show the first thing and the kids are like, "Wow, that's crazy." And then, you know, I do another little segment with the kids, cut to the second bit. It's on again. It's going great. You know, they love it.

• 44:53Bobby Lee?

  Wow.

• 44:53Speaker 03

  And then I cut the third bit. There's nothing there. The end of the show, the one-hour live shows, I get a message that the head of the channel wants to see me. I go into his office. He said, "You do that again and you're fired." Oh, damn. And I was like, "I got something."

• 45:09Bobby Lee?

  Yeah.

• 45:10Speaker 03

  He wants to fire me. I got something. So the next week, the next week, the next week I go, "I think I want to do a foreign character." And I drive down to the East End. "I wonder if you can find this." And this is, I had my Mum Saab 900. It was actually, it was a car that had a problem. It didn't turn left. There was a fault where the steering wheel, a lot of, didn't turn left. And it sounds as if he'd be driving, and he'd be trying to get the steering wheel to turn left. Anyway, I, I, you know, I'm going on a detour. But, so anyway, we're in the East End, you know, and I thought, I want to do something about Cockneys and his, you know, he's running around.

• 45:55Speaker 03

  And I don't know what the character is. I open the boot and inside I'm rummaging around the trunk of the car. And I find a hat that I'd bought on this trip to Russia when I was 21. And I stick it on my head and I go, "Young Shumash", "Young Shumash", and I, that was the character.

• 46:14Bobby Lee?

  Wow.

• 46:15Speaker 03

  That was how it came in. I came up to a guy, I go, "Oh, I'm looking for a Cockney. You're a Japanese Cockney. Where are your spoons?" And then we played it out. It went really well. I went the next day and there was a fox hunting rally. And I go, "Okay, I'm going to take this character again." Yeah, I did. I called him Alexi Crickler. That was the name of my roommate at the time. I had a roommate called Alex Crickler. I go, "I'm Alex Crickler." And I was going up to these real upper-class guys who were, you know, defending fox hunting. "We want the rights. We're able to chase, chase and kill a fox with hounds." And I said, "In my country, we hunt criminals. You think we should do it here?" And they were like, "Oh, yeah, that would be a good idea." That would be, you know.

• 47:00Speaker 03

  And at the time, Prince Charles, who's now the king, had, there was some scandal where he'd been recorded talking about Camilla being a, actually, forget that stuff. He's now the king and he's actually all right.

• 47:17Bobby Lee?

  When did you change the name to Borat?

• 47:19Speaker 03

  So every channel we were at, we, we gave him a different name. Oh, yeah. This is, this is the Fox Hunting Rally.

• 47:28Bobby Lee?

  Wow.

• 47:29Speaker 03

  That's a real rally. Wait a minute. No, no, no. That, that is from, no, that's the Ali G Show. That's earlier on. Yeah, but that is a countryside protest. Yeah, that is already, on the Ali G Show, we bring in Borat. In the UK Ali G Show, and I think this was one of the first ones. This is a common rally? This is like everywhere online. Yeah, the Fox Hunting Rally, yeah.

• 47:50Speaker 06

  Very English protest.

• 47:51Bobby Lee?

  Wow.

• 47:51Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. So there was an earlier version of this. Actually, I tried it twice.

• 47:55Bobby Lee?

  Good.

• 47:56Speaker 03

  And that was the creation of Borat, basically.

• 47:58Bobby Lee?

  Wow.

• 47:58Speaker 03

  So sometimes they are very quick. And then we did a show, Who Is America? Where we decided, okay, you know, I became too well-known with Bruno and the dictator. We go, "We're going to use prosthetics now." And the technology in prosthetics had just got to be good enough. But we thought maybe they could be good enough to convince real people. And so we decided to do a 10-week process, me and a couple of writers, Anne and Dan Timer. And we go, "What we're going to do is every week on the first day, we're going to come up with a character and write it, work out they dress, create the prosthetics, and on the Sunday, we're going to shoot with real people."

• 48:37Bobby Lee?

  Wow.

• 48:38Speaker 03

  And we're going to either dump the character or keep it. So for 10 weeks, we did 10 different characters.

• 48:43Speaker 06

  Oh, wow.

• 48:43Bobby Lee?

  Wow.

• 48:45Speaker 03

  And it was, it was really interesting because what I realised was, on the Sunday, my guys would say, "You lock in." What we mean by locking in was, you create a character and.

• 48:57Bobby Lee?

  Wait, wait, wait. Those are all you?

• 48:59Speaker 03

  These are all me.

• 49:00Bobby Lee?

  Are you out of your mind?

• 49:02Speaker 03

  Yeah, so they are, okay, the top left.

• 49:04Bobby Lee?

  Wait, who's the girl in red? Tell me about her.

• 49:05Speaker 03

  Okay, that's, what is this called? He's like, "OMG Wizboy, OMG Wizboy, OMG, he's an unboxing character." And basically, he would have, we would go to DC.

• 49:19Bobby Lee?

  Yeah.

• 49:19Speaker 03

  And he would unbox with, you know, politicians.

• 49:25Speaker 03

  That in the middle is.

• 49:27Bobby Lee?

  Rick Sherman. Rick Thurman was a.

• 49:31Speaker 03

  He has just come out of jail.

• 49:33Bobby Lee?

  Yeah.

• 49:33Speaker 03

  For murder. And he basically, he becomes like, one week, he's getting his first Michelin star as a chef.

• 49:42Bobby Lee?

  Yeah.

• 49:42Speaker 03

  And we had all this, you know, it's, it's prison-based.

• 49:45Bobby Lee?

  Food.

• 49:46Speaker 03

  And we end up actually feeding one restaurant critic. We go, this is, you know, I was in a fight in prison and I cut up my room roommate, cellmate. And I ended up, you know, tasting it and it was actually delicious. And, you know, we're trying to replicate that feel off the, you know, human flesh. And they basically, I pull out what he believes is human flesh.

• 50:12Bobby Lee?

  Wow.

• 50:12Speaker 03

  I go, this is a Chinese dissident. He's, he's grass fed, be completely vegan diet.

• 50:21Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 50:21Speaker 03

  Kept in solitary, so very fatty. It's delicious. And we get this restaurant critic eats this dissident.

• 50:30Bobby Lee?

  Oh.

• 50:31Speaker 03

  And, you know, the food is kind of delicious and I go, you know, this was chumfi. Could you please, you know, his parents record a message to his parents? And he's like, you know, chumfi, thank you so much. Chumfi was absolutely delicious.

• 50:45Bobby Lee?

  Look at him.

• 50:46Speaker 06

  This guy is believing.

• 50:47Bobby Lee?

  Dude, the prosthetics work. Look at that thing, dude. That's a real human. Is that you too?

• 50:54Speaker 03

  My guy was the restaurant critic.

• 50:56Bobby Lee?

  That's a real human.

• 50:57Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah.

• 50:57Bobby Lee?

  Oh my God. I've never seen humans look like that.

• 50:59Speaker 03

  Butts. Oh, here we go. Cake with grated New Zealand human excrement and a vanilla butter cream fondant. So I go, yeah, yeah, I included in it. I go, what can you taste? And he goes, I'm not sure. Am I tasting oregano? I go, it's shit. Shit is such a, it's such a strong, has such a strong flavor.

• 51:22Bobby Lee?

  Yeah.

• 51:22Speaker 03

  Such a strong flavor when you're using human shit that you must be.

• 51:27Bobby Lee?

  What the fuck? What did it taste like though?

• 51:29Speaker 03

  I think they were delicious. We actually had, Gordon Ramsay helped us like he lent his team.

• 51:34Bobby Lee?

  What's, I love Gordon Ramsay.

• 51:35Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 51:36Bobby Lee?

  What's he like?

• 51:37Speaker 03

  He's, well, he's a brilliant chef. I mean, he's.

• 51:40Bobby Lee?

  Yeah.

• 51:40Speaker 03

  Yeah, he lent us his team to.

• 51:42Bobby Lee?

  That's amazing, dude.

• 51:46Speaker 03

  He's trying to work out what the secret ingredient is.

• 51:48Bobby Lee?

  Dude, he looks like Sméagol, the, the, the cook. Right, doesn't he look like Sméagol? Anyway.

• 51:53Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 51:53Bobby Lee?

  Probably a good critic.

• 51:55Speaker 03

  Yeah. So he liked this character. He did like, um, you know, he became a DJ one week. He became an artist. It was all about the, you know, in the art world, they love the idea of somebody who's come from a Oh, yeah. disadvantaged or dangerous background.

• 52:10Bobby Lee?

  Right, right, right, right.

• 52:11Speaker 03

  Oh. You were in jail for murder? Oh.

• 52:17Speaker 03

  How exciting. And then, um, that guy bottom left is Billy Wayne Roderick. He's like a conspiracy theorist. There he is. Bernie Sanders.

• 52:25Speaker 02

  Bernie.

• 52:26Bobby Lee?

  Does Bernie know that it's you or no?

• 52:28Speaker 03

  So Bernie, look at his face. Bernie afterwards was, we got, you know, the, the interview went well and at the end, one of his team was suspicious and we get a phone call saying, uh, we think that's Sacha Baron Cohen.

• 52:45Speaker 06

  Oh, wow.

• 52:45Speaker 03

  And we, our team denied it. And then he, they said, if you don't give us back the tape. And again, I'm, this is from hearsay, from the person who was on our team. They said, we're going to go to Congress and say that there is potentially a terrorist in town.

• 53:05Bobby Lee?

  What?

• 53:08Speaker 03

  And so I was, uh, living in a Airbnb in DC, you know, only sneaking out at nights and that. You know, I was living in DC for two weeks.

• 53:18Bobby Lee?

  Wow.

• 53:19Speaker 03

  And, um.

• 53:20Bobby Lee?

  You wouldn't go out to restaurants or anything, just?

• 53:22Speaker 03

  Oh, no, no, you can't. I was going out in the middle of the night.

• 53:24Bobby Lee?

  Wow.

• 53:25Speaker 03

  Yeah, because no one could see me for two weeks. Otherwise we'd be busted.

• 53:27Speaker 06

  Which doesn't help your terrorism case either, is that?

• 53:30Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 53:31Speaker 06

  A secret safe house.

• 53:33Speaker 03

  Again, I'm saying allegedly.

• 53:34Speaker 06

  Yeah, allegedly, allegedly.

• 53:36Speaker 03

  Uh, but he didn't get the tape back.

• 53:38Speaker 06

  Yeah. How does that work? How do you say no? Just no? You're not giving it?

• 53:41Speaker 03

  I think, no, we didn't, the team did not admit that it was me.

• 53:45Speaker 06

  Wow.

• 53:46Speaker 03

  I think, you know, we're consulted with, yes, it aired.

• 53:48Bobby Lee?

  Yeah, wow.

• 53:49Speaker 03

  It aired. So he's a conspiracy theorist, you know, this was 2018 and we thought, you know, he's like, he's Dr. Billy Wayne Roderick, you know, so he's, I think he's from Tennessee. Yeah, everything.

• 54:02Bobby Lee?

  Everything.

• 54:03Speaker 02

  I like the name Truth Brary.

• 54:07Speaker 03

  Yeah. So it's like, you know, and the new movie is all about conspiracy theories as well.

• 54:11Bobby Lee?

  Oh, good, good.

• 54:11Speaker 03

  Where they, where they lead to, and we get some conspiracy theorists and we do probably the craziest thing that's ever been done in cinema before.

• 54:19Speaker 06

  Oh, wow.

• 54:20Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 54:20Bobby Lee?

  Wow. I'm glad you're addressing it too, because it's fucking insane out there.

• 54:24Speaker 03

  It is insane. You know, we're in a world where you can't tell the difference between truth and lies. And the people benefiting from it are a handful of people with people who run social media. Now you've got AI where it's purporting to be the truth, but there's, it's also sucking up information from Reddit and Wikipedia that's got a lot of lies in it as well.

• 54:45Bobby Lee?

  Yeah.

• 54:45Speaker 03

  Wikipedia itself, they recently showed that it's being manipulated by foreign governments who want to change certain pages. Well, we, we have a big AI scene in it actually because, and I, hopefully it would lead to a change in the law. But you've got to see it, but it's, um.

• 55:00Bobby Lee?

  Yeah.

• 55:00Speaker 03

  We've got a lot of famous people in this AI video who allegedly is claiming actually come out. He gets cancelled at one point and lists all these people to.

• 55:09Bobby Lee?

  Oh, wow, wow, wow.

• 55:10Speaker 03

  Yeah. Some of them are dead.

• 55:11Bobby Lee?

  So everyone listening right now, um, you know, I'll, I'll be honest with you, dude. Um, thank you so much for doing this.

• 55:17Speaker 03

  No, it's been great. Firstly, I've had a number of compliments. We've talked about swimming. I managed to stun a fly without really hurting it. And you have it in there.

• 55:26Bobby Lee?

  That was amazing, dude.

• 55:27Speaker 03

  My gift to you, my gift.

• 55:30Speaker 03

  Talked about comedy.

• 55:31Bobby Lee?

  Yeah.

• 55:31Speaker 03

  I got to hang with you again. By the way, I always loved hanging with you.

• 55:34Bobby Lee?

  Oh, thanks, man.

• 55:35Speaker 03

  Always loved. I never knew you were going through a difficult time, but you.

• 55:38Bobby Lee?

  That time, yeah.

• 55:38Speaker 03

  Everyone I remember from that first, we were like, he is absolutely hilarious.

• 55:44Bobby Lee?

  I'm killing it now. Thank you.

• 55:45Speaker 03

  Absolutely. We couldn't believe it.

• 55:48Bobby Lee?

  Yeah.

• 55:48Speaker 03

  You know, and that's how we brought you back for the dictator.

• 55:50Bobby Lee?

  Thank you. I know you did, man. And that was fucking amazing, dude.

• 55:53Speaker 03

  Yeah, thank you. By the way, you were lucky not to do the Bruno film. It was terrifying. So.

• 55:57Bobby Lee?

  No, I would.

• 55:58Speaker 03

  That guy who got the job, poor guy had to deal with neo Nazis and all this stuff. It's terrifying.

• 56:04Bobby Lee?

  Well, give Sasha a round of applause, everybody.

• 56:06Speaker 03

  Thank you for having me on.

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