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1:25 Bobby Lee? You writing some notes?
1:27 Speaker 02 Uh, no.
1:29 Bobby Lee? Okay.
1:29 Speaker 02 It's just like a, kind of a...
1:31 Bobby Lee? Do you know who Matt Jones is?
1:32 Speaker 02 Yes, of course. Dude, come on, you can't look at my notes. I can't read them. That's not... I honestly can't read them.
1:38 Bobby Lee? Don't ever yell at my guest again, man.
1:40 Speaker 02 You have horrible handwriting. I'm not yet, I wasn't...
1:44 Speaker 02 I can't read that. They say that's a sign of genius. Okay.
1:46 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I feel like Luke is a young Matt Jones.
1:51 Speaker 02 Oh, yeah? Okay.
1:52 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:53 Speaker 02 I was never that fuckable.
1:56 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Young, same kind of haircut.
1:59 Speaker 02 Oh, yeah, okay.
2:00 Speaker 03 All right.
2:00 Bobby Lee? I mean, is that what the whites are doing lately? I don't even know. Is it a trend?
2:04 Speaker 00 What's the meeting like?
2:04 Bobby Lee? Yeah, what is the meeting of that haircut, guys?
2:07 Speaker 03 Uh, I don't go to church anymore, do you?
2:08 Speaker 02 Uh, no, I never. I'm Jewish. I never went to church.
2:11 Bobby Lee? You're Jewish?
2:12 Speaker 03 Sorry, temple.
2:14 Speaker 00 My bad.
2:14 Speaker 03 Also a church.
2:16 Bobby Lee? It is a church. There's four main religions, is, are there not?
2:21 Speaker 02 Is that like a loaded question?
2:22 Bobby Lee? Yeah, it's not a loaded question.
2:23 Speaker 02 Are there not?
2:24 Bobby Lee? There are four main religions.
2:25 Speaker 00 I would say three.
2:27 Bobby Lee? Well, I would.
2:28 Speaker 03 I'd say zero.
2:30 Bobby Lee? Yeah, I would say Christianity, Muslim.
2:36 Speaker 03 Hinduism is really big.
2:37 Bobby Lee? Yeah, Hinduism and, um, Israel. Israelite.
2:42 Speaker 00 Just the country?
2:43 Speaker 02 Yeah, yeah.
2:43 Bobby Lee? No, I mean, uh, Jewa- Judaism.
2:45 Speaker 02 Yeah, yeah.
2:46 Bobby Lee? Judaism.
2:47 Speaker 02 Yeah.
2:47 Bobby Lee? Yeah. Are the four, would Scientology be in there?
2:51 Speaker 03 No.
2:53 Bobby Lee? They're pretty big though. They're pretty big.
2:55 Speaker 03 I guess.
2:55 Bobby Lee? Yeah, what do you mean, you guess?
2:57 Speaker 03 I, I, I, I don't give a shit.
3:01 Bobby Lee? Uh, you don't give, you're, you're, you're in a kick right now. You don't give a shit about anything.
3:05 Speaker 03 I really don't.
3:06 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah.
3:07 Speaker 00 Nice.
3:07 Bobby Lee? So the reason why I, I got mad here, I mean, I've won, you've been on the list forever, but I was like, I was watching, um, I don't know why, but you kept popping up on my TikTok feed.
3:16 Speaker 03 Okay. Oh, I'm on TikTok?
3:18 Bobby Lee? Yeah, you're on TikTok.
3:18 Speaker 03 I'm, I don't have TikTok.
3:20 Bobby Lee? Yeah, I, I don't either, but I still, you know.
3:23 Speaker 00 You don't?
3:24 Bobby Lee? Well, I, I mean, I, I've never posted anything. I just, I like watching it.
3:28 Speaker 03 Right.
3:28 Bobby Lee? So I created a profile so I could just watch it.
3:31 Speaker 00 It's kind of having it.
3:32 Speaker 03 I'm bad enough with Instagram, so I don't.
3:34 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
3:34 Speaker 03 I don't.
3:35 Bobby Lee? Was it trending on Instagram?
3:37 Speaker 03 I don't know. I, I, I don't know.
3:38 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah. Well, you did an interview, a couple of interviews.
3:41 Speaker 03 Yeah, I've done a couple and I've just been a little honest about how much the business sucks.
3:46 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
3:47 Speaker 03 And, um, yeah, and I've had, what's weird is people, some people don't post publicly, but I've had some like, I don't know, Oscar winners, uh, reach out and be like, holy shit, I feel the same way. And I was like, well, then say that publicly.
4:01 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
4:01 Speaker 03 But, no.
4:02 Bobby Lee? They don't.
4:03 Speaker 03 No, cause, and, uh, I. Everybody's afraid they're talking themselves out of a job.
4:08 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
4:09 Speaker 03 But I'm not getting jobs anyway, so.
4:13 Bobby Lee? That's what I felt. Why do you think I'm in this garage? You know what I mean?
4:18 Speaker 03 It really is a garage.
4:20 Bobby Lee? I know, it's a garage. I'm in my garage because I couldn't get the work. You know what I mean? So I'm like, I'll just do this.
4:28 Speaker 03 Yeah.
4:29 Bobby Lee? Yeah, I mean, at the end of the day, it's like I tried to transition out of waiting in line.
4:35 Speaker 03 But this is better.
4:36 Bobby Lee? Yeah, I don't know if it's better. I don't know if it's worse, but it's like, it's something that like you, I went a different direction, but um. I understand, you know.
4:46 Speaker 03 Holy shit.
4:46 Bobby Lee? Is that you?
4:47 Speaker 00 So he wasn't as fuckable.
4:49 Bobby Lee? Yeah, you weren't as fuckable as those back then. Yeah, yeah. What happened there?
4:54 Speaker 03 Uh, a lack of parenting.
4:57 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
4:58 Speaker 03 Just, no one was really paying attention to what I was eating or doing.
5:03 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
5:04 Speaker 03 Boy.
5:04 Bobby Lee? Were you swimming in bog water?
5:07 Speaker 03 In butter. I was swimming in it.
5:08 Bobby Lee? You were swimming in butter.
5:09 Speaker 03 In butter.
5:10 Bobby Lee? Is this, oh, yeah, yeah. Absolutely unfuckable.
5:16 Speaker 02 Crazy.
5:16 Speaker 03 Oh my god.
5:17 Bobby Lee? That's unfuckable?
5:18 Speaker 00 I think he got some girls.
5:19 Speaker 03 That's 1999?
5:21 Bobby Lee? It's like a fat Michael Shannon.
5:22 Speaker 03 Yeah. Okay. That is kinder than I would.
5:27 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
5:28 Speaker 03 I, I always thought I looked, I, I looked like a lesbian until I was 20.
5:34 Speaker 03 Like, that is a stand-up comic.
5:36 Bobby Lee? Yeah, that's a stand-up comic.
5:38 Speaker 03 Yeah, like Barbara Sanders.
5:41 Bobby Lee? Signing up for Kill Tony.
5:42 Speaker 03 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
5:43 Bobby Lee? Travel, people travel to go do that show.
5:47 Speaker 00 It's wild.
5:47 Bobby Lee? It's wild. Yeah, from all over the country, they travel to go to that.
5:50 Speaker 03 I can't watch it.
5:51 Bobby Lee? I can't, okay.
5:52 Speaker 03 I can't watch it.
5:53 Bobby Lee? Yeah, I know, it's hard.
5:53 Speaker 03 I know it's really popular.
5:55 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
5:56 Speaker 03 And it's.
5:56 Bobby Lee? I can't do it.
5:57 Speaker 03 I.
5:58 Bobby Lee? I've done it. I can't do it. I sneak out.
6:01 Speaker 03 I can't, it's, I appreciate that people love it, but it just makes me so uncomfortable. I don't like it.
6:07 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah. I've, I've, uh, guested on that panel before with Burr and some other people. And I usually leave halfway during it.
6:16 Speaker 03 Yeah.
6:16 Bobby Lee? And I'll go, I gotta go to the bathroom and I'll like wait 45 minutes and then come back. You know, I, I cannot do it and I will never do it again.
6:24 Speaker 03 Yeah.
6:25 Speaker 02 Cause you just don't like being mean to people or something or?
6:27 Bobby Lee? It's just, I just don't know what to say. It's like, you know, people are developing and it's like,
6:31 Speaker 02 Yeah.
6:32 Bobby Lee? The person that we're watching now isn't the person that we're gonna be watching 10 years from now. So it's like ripping on somebody that early is tough for me.
6:42 Speaker 02 Yeah, yeah.
6:42 Bobby Lee? I'm not a roaster in general. I mean, I, I called you a fat Michael Shannon.
6:49 Speaker 02 Pretty good. Pretty good.
6:50 Bobby Lee? Pretty good roast, but, um.
6:52 Speaker 03 I mean, personally, I just, I, the whole show is about like who's gonna be the next stand-up comic.
6:57 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
6:57 Speaker 03 And I don't think anybody should be.
7:01 Speaker 03 I wanna say no to everybody.
7:02 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah.
7:04 Speaker 02 Cause you're an improv guy.
7:06 Speaker 03 It's done. We don't need any more stand-ups.
7:09 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
7:10 Speaker 02 Is it cause you're such a diehard improv guy? You're like?
7:12 Speaker 03 No, I'm not a diver. Improv is stupid way.
7:17 Speaker 03 I love it, uh, cause I hang out with my friends and I'll do it every now and then, but it is a legitimately stupid waste of time.
7:25 Bobby Lee? Watching it.
7:25 Speaker 00 You did comedy sports?
7:27 Speaker 03 I did in high school.
7:28 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah. What's comedy sports?
7:30 Speaker 03 Uh, it was, uh, a thing that was popular in the nineties.
7:34 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah. You wore a jersey?
7:35 Speaker 03 Yeah.
7:36 Bobby Lee? No, really? You wore a jersey?
7:37 Speaker 00 They did.
7:38 Speaker 03 He would wear a jersey. Yeah, and you'd like compete against the other team for audience claps, but it was all like rigged and it was like wrestling in its own way.
7:45 Bobby Lee? Ah.
7:46 Speaker 03 And it was stupid.
7:48 Bobby Lee? What was your team called?
7:49 Speaker 03 Uh, it was just whatever, like the red team or the blue team.
7:52 Bobby Lee? Oh.
7:53 Speaker 03 There's a new team every time. Yeah, and I was on a high school team, so we were Claremont High School Comedy Sports.
7:59 Bobby Lee? Wait, Claremont? Is that in San Diego?
8:01 Speaker 03 No, that, this is without the I. This is next to Pomona.
8:05 Bobby Lee? Oh, Pomona. Okay. So you're, do you guys usually win or?
8:09 Speaker 03 Whatever the home team was, won. That was the rule.
8:12 Bobby Lee? And you never did Second City or anything like that or Groundlings?
8:15 Speaker 03 I did Boom Chicago and Amsterdam.
8:16 Bobby Lee? Oh, you did Boom?
8:18 Speaker 03 I did Boom Chicago and Amsterdam.
8:19 Bobby Lee? Oh, good.
8:19 Speaker 03 Tons of UCB stuff, Improv.
8:21 Bobby Lee? Did you do it with Ike and all those guys?
8:24 Speaker 03 They were a little before me, but I did a bit with Jordan.
8:26 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah.
8:27 Speaker 03 And Colton and...
8:29 Bobby Lee? Colton Dunn, yeah?
8:30 Speaker 03 I mean, tons of people.
8:31 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
8:32 Speaker 02 And Jordan, Jordan Peele?
8:33 Speaker 03 Yeah.
8:34 Bobby Lee? He just said that.
8:35 Speaker 03 Sorry, I didn't drop the Peele.
8:37 Speaker 02 That's what I'm clarifying.
8:38 Bobby Lee? Either it was Michael Jordan? I don't know.
8:40 Speaker 02 Chicago, from Chicago.
8:42 Speaker 03 Could be anyone, could be someone you don't know.
8:44 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
8:45 Speaker 03 He stopped playing basketball.
8:46 Bobby Lee? Matt Jones, Michael Jordan.
8:48 Speaker 02 Larry Bird.
8:50 Speaker 03 He stopped playing basketball.
8:52 Bobby Lee? Hussein Bolt, Subol Hussein Bolt, Michael Phelps in.
8:58 Bobby Lee? Imagine that improv group. Oh, my God. Terrible.
9:02 Speaker 02 I just wanted to clarify.
9:03 Speaker 03 But also, every improv group is terrible.
9:05 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah. I mean, what, you know what the worst torture is watching long form improv?
9:09 Speaker 03 So, yes, I would say yes, 99.999% of the time.
9:14 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
9:14 Speaker 03 And then there's these certain people that can do it so well.
9:18 Bobby Lee? Keegan can do it.
9:18 Speaker 03 That it fools everyone else.
9:20 Bobby Lee? Yeah, I can do it.
9:21 Speaker 03 Did you know Tammy Sager?
9:22 Bobby Lee? Oh, yeah.
9:23 Speaker 03 Like Tammy, I would see her and like Craig Kukowski and like Stephanie Weir.
9:27 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
9:28 Speaker 03 And Bob Dassie and like those people.
9:30 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
9:30 Speaker 03 Unbelievable.
9:31 Bobby Lee? Unbelievable.
9:32 Speaker 03 But then everyone else, don't do it.
9:34 Bobby Lee? That's the crib of the crop.
9:35 Speaker 03 Yeah.
9:35 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah.
9:36 Speaker 03 I, I have a guy, Dave Hill, we've been doing it two man together for like 15 years. We are very good at it.
9:41 Bobby Lee? Wait, wait, wait, you have an improv group?
9:43 Speaker 03 Yeah, it's just...
9:44 Bobby Lee? I thought you said it shit.
9:45 Speaker 03 Yeah, that's why we don't...
9:47 Bobby Lee? You said it was shit?
9:48 Speaker 03 Yeah, that's why we don't...
9:49 Bobby Lee? And you're currently in an improv group?
9:51 Speaker 03 Yes. Yes.
9:53 Speaker 02 That's how he knows.
9:55 Speaker 03 No, our show's not shit. Everything...
9:57 Bobby Lee? How do you know?
9:58 Speaker 03 No, it is sometimes shit.
10:00 Bobby Lee? I'm gonna watch it. I'll tell you if it's shit or not. When's your next, next live show?
10:03 Speaker 03 We don't, we, we do them like randomly, like maybe like three or four times a year.
10:07 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm gonna go to the next one.
10:09 Speaker 03 Okay.
10:09 Bobby Lee? Yeah, and I will tell you if it's...
10:10 Speaker 03 The next one is in Minneapolis.
10:12 Bobby Lee? It is?
10:13 Speaker 03 Yeah.
10:13 Bobby Lee? It's long form.
10:14 Speaker 03 Yeah, we do, we, one suggestion, we do like a full show that everything connects. It's almost like a play.
10:20 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
10:20 Speaker 03 Uh, but it's, it's very good.
10:22 Bobby Lee? Yeah, uh, do you, it's a, do you, so do you do improv, Luke?
10:26 Speaker 02 Uh, I took, uh, two classes.
10:29 Speaker 03 Where at?
10:29 Speaker 02 Uh, I took, uh, UCB 101.
10:32 Speaker 03 Okay.
10:32 Speaker 02 Shh, no big deal, educated. And then I did one day class at the Groundlings.
10:37 Speaker 03 Okay, cool.
10:38 Speaker 02 And I thought, eh, this isn't really for me.
10:40 Bobby Lee? It isn't?
10:41 Speaker 03 Yeah.
10:41 Bobby Lee? Yeah, he's a stand-up. Don't judge.
10:44 Speaker 03 True.
10:45 Speaker 02 No, it's real comedy.
10:47 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah.
10:47 Speaker 02 Real shit, Tony shit.
10:50 Speaker 03 I, I honestly, I'm a huge stand-up fan, been a stand-up fan my whole life.
10:55 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
10:56 Speaker 03 And I just, I've never done it.
10:58 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
10:58 Speaker 03 Cause I like stand-up.
10:59 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
11:00 Speaker 03 And I just know that, like, I could do it, I could legitimately do it.
11:04 Bobby Lee? Why can't?
11:04 Speaker 03 But I don't think I would be great at it, and I, I think it's been too long now.
11:09 Bobby Lee? No.
11:09 Speaker 03 For me to
11:10 Bobby Lee? Get, get twenty
11:11 Speaker 03 Throw away my nights and weekends for the
11:12 Bobby Lee? No, you get twenty minutes, and then you open for me.
11:16 Speaker 03 Yeah, anytime.
11:17 Bobby Lee? No.
11:17 Speaker 03 I've got twenty right now, uh, right up my ass, I do, absolutely.
11:20 Bobby Lee? You have twenty minutes of, of stand-up?
11:22 Speaker 03 I could do, I could do a solid ten right now.
11:24 Speaker 02 Wow.
11:25 Bobby Lee? Wow.
11:26 Speaker 03 Totally, I could.
11:27 Bobby Lee? You could?
11:27 Speaker 03 Yeah.
11:28 Bobby Lee? Yeah, I want twenty, twenty-five.
11:29 Speaker 03 Okay.
11:30 Bobby Lee? All right, get that, and then it'll be, you'll be opening for me.
11:32 Speaker 03 Okay, great.
11:33 Bobby Lee? Yeah, and I'll pay you good.
11:34 Speaker 03 Okay, all right, done.
11:35 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll pay you good. So, um, but you know, I, I look at, I've, I've, I just recently, as in twenty minutes ago, um,
11:46 Bobby Lee? Yeah, that's how I prepare. I go, yeah, Matt's coming, I gotta, I'll do some prepar- preparation. And I looked at your IMDb, and I, I scrolled through it, and a mass amount of work.
11:56 Speaker 03 Yeah.
11:57 Bobby Lee? You know what I mean, uh, you were in Badger, um, Breaking Bad.
12:00 Speaker 03 Sure.
12:01 Bobby Lee? And then you were also, um, in that supernatural, uh, anti Superman movie?
12:05 Speaker 03 Yeah, yeah, um, Brightburn.
12:07 Bobby Lee? Brightburn?
12:08 Speaker 03 Yeah, James Gunn produced, uh, David Yurovsky directed.
12:11 Bobby Lee? Yeah, and so you know James?
12:13 Speaker 03 I do.
12:14 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah, yeah, can't put you in anything?
12:18 Speaker 03 I guess I don't know.
12:20 Bobby Lee? I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah.
12:22 Speaker 03 I mean, here, I'll tell you this. I'll throw this out there. I don't even care. I, the other day, I, uh,
12:31 Speaker 03 I auditioned for something.
12:33 Bobby Lee? A big one?
12:34 Speaker 03 Yeah.
12:34 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
12:35 Speaker 03 That, um, he's involved with, and for the first time in my entire career, I've never done this ever, ever, ever.
12:40 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
12:41 Speaker 03 Ever. I messaged him and I was like, hey, just let you know I auditioned for this, just so you can make sure you see the tape.
12:47 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
12:47 Speaker 03 Basically.
12:48 Bobby Lee? That's not a bad thing.
12:49 Speaker 03 I've never done that.
12:50 Bobby Lee? That's what they do.
12:51 Speaker 03 But I've never done that because I have this like shitty integrity and like, I, I don't want to be pathetic and I've never asked for a job or dropped a name, ever.
13:00 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
13:00 Speaker 03 And I did it the other day and I swear to God, I couldn't sleep that night.
13:04 Bobby Lee? Oh, wow.
13:05 Speaker 03 So I was like, how did I do that?
13:06 Bobby Lee? No, no, that's what you're supposed to do, Matt.
13:10 Speaker 03 No, that agent is supposed to.
13:12 Bobby Lee? No, no, no, no, no. You know what I did the other day? This is the first I've ever done, right? I wasn't moving as many tickets in, in, in, in Chicago, although I sold it out, but because I had to pull in the big guns. And it was hard to ask. I went to Joe Coy, Gabriel Iglesias, Tom Segura and Burt Kreischer, and I go, can you post a story for my show? And then it sold out.
13:39 Speaker 03 There you go.
13:39 Bobby Lee? But it was very difficult to do. I had never done that before because I could usually sell out on my own. But it was like, it was because of the economy and because people aren't, aren't selling right now. You know what I mean? I had to do it. But in this day and age, I think making that text is the right thing to do.
13:57 Speaker 03 See, but the difference between you doing stand up.
14:01 Bobby Lee? Here we go. There's a difference.
14:02 Speaker 03 Well, I'm telling you, you doing stand up.
14:04 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
14:04 Speaker 03 And me doing some fucking movie or TV show.
14:07 Bobby Lee? Yeah, I still do it too. I'm still in the business, Matt. I mean, Nimrod's coming out. I was in Happy Gilmore 2. I, I, I, I, I'm not out.
14:15 Speaker 00 He's like, I saw your RMBV, man. I don't know.
14:17 Bobby Lee? Yeah, I was testing the city reservation. I did stuff.
14:20 Speaker 03 Saying the difference, like you, you're doing it yourself, right? You're booking this place.
14:25 Bobby Lee? Booking what, like my house?
14:27 Speaker 03 No, no. The theater in Chicago.
14:29 Bobby Lee? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
14:29 Speaker 03 Right?
14:30 Bobby Lee? Yes.
14:30 Speaker 03 A to B, it's you to there.
14:32 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
14:32 Speaker 03 The audience.
14:32 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
14:33 Speaker 03 I, I have to crawl through like mountains and oceans of dog shit to get to a job.
14:41 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
14:41 Speaker 03 And then back through because there's all these people in the middle that are taking all the money.
14:45 Bobby Lee? I know.
14:46 Speaker 03 For everybody, not just for me, for the people that are directing it, for everybody.
14:49 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
14:50 Speaker 03 So, uh, there's advertisers and all this shit. You're just going to a place and selling to stupid people that'll pay you.
15:00 Speaker 03 That'll, that'll think you're funny.
15:07 Speaker 03 But like, that's a direct con.
15:09 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
15:09 Speaker 03 Whereas like the long.
15:13 Speaker 03 Whereas the long con is like, I, I have no control over my fate. That's terrible.
15:18 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
15:19 Speaker 03 I don't want to do that.
15:20 Bobby Lee? Well, take control.
15:21 Speaker 03 Exactly.
15:21 Bobby Lee? Yeah, that's what I told you the other day. I, I texted you. I go, you gotta take control.
15:25 Speaker 03 So you said, I, you texted me, I should start a podcast about how shitty the business is.
15:30 Bobby Lee? Yes.
15:31 Speaker 03 And I just don't want to hear some, I don't want to hear a bunch of fucking actors complain about it anymore. I don't, I wouldn't listen to that.
15:39 Bobby Lee? I would.
15:40 Speaker 03 You would?
15:40 Bobby Lee? You would? I would too. And, yeah, I would too. The reason why I would listen to it is because I feel the same shift. I feel the same resentment. I feel the same anger about it. So it's like, yeah, I would, um, definitely listen to that.
15:55 Speaker 03 I think it's just still, it's just me mad at rich kids, right?
15:58 Bobby Lee? Yeah, I know.
15:59 Speaker 03 From when I was a kid, I, I hate rich kids and I still hate rich kids.
16:05 Bobby Lee? I know.
16:05 Speaker 03 You know what I mean?
16:05 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
16:06 Speaker 03 And, and it's all run by rich kids.
16:08 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
16:08 Speaker 03 Like all the executives are rich kids.
16:11 Bobby Lee? Bro.
16:12 Speaker 03 You know?
16:13 Bobby Lee? Bro, there's this thing, bro, I want to tell you something. There's this thing called the Golden Gala. Okay? It's an, it's, it's, it's the up of the Asians.
16:22 Speaker 03 Yeah.
16:23 Bobby Lee? And every year they get together.
16:24 Speaker 03 Yeah.
16:25 Bobby Lee? Right? And they invite me, right? But I can't have a plus one. Everyone else is a plus one, right? Heaven's with the five. And the, and the one time I went, right, I was in the back, right? And all the Steven Unes and the Michelle Yows and the John Shos.
16:40 Speaker 03 Cause you're a bad Asian, cause they think you're gonna show up with like a prostitute.
16:45 Speaker 03 They're afraid you're gonna do that.
16:46 Bobby Lee? I know, but.
16:47 Speaker 03 If you were married to a nice young girl.
16:49 Bobby Lee? No, but I have a nice girlfriend right now.
16:51 Speaker 03 Yeah, but you're not married.
16:52 Bobby Lee? I know. I know, I know I'm not married and I'll never get married.
16:57 Speaker 03 And you'll still never get a plus one.
16:59 Bobby Lee? I know, no, no, I wanna, no, what I'm, my point is, is that I know I'm gonna be in the back, right? I know they're gonna side eye me like, you know what I mean? Oh my God, there's their dirty one, you know what I mean? They consider me the dirty one, you know what I mean? And it's like, I mean, I could argue that I have a bigger fan base.
17:16 Speaker 03 Absolutely.
17:17 Bobby Lee? You mean than most of them, I could, I.
17:25 Bobby Lee? We're talking about built right now. Built, built. Built right now. So built. Built right now. Get your built on. I love built, man. B I L T, man. It's like, you know, whether you're renting or paying a mortgage, one of your biggest monthly expenses should be working harder for you. And that's the fact. That's where built comes in. Built is the membership where you live that rewards you with points on every housing payment wherever you live.
17:53 Speaker 04 And honestly, it's something that like, okay, for me at least.
17:56 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
17:57 Speaker 04 Like you can't get away from it. You pay rent or you pay a mortgage and it just stings, right? But now with built.
18:04 Bobby Lee? Not with built. It stings my ass.
18:05 Speaker 04 It stings. Not with built though.
18:07 Bobby Lee? Yeah, not with built though. Yeah, yeah.
18:09 Speaker 04 It just doesn't matter anymore. And it kinda is like you're almost excited to pay rent because there are perks to paying rent. Now you get points and you can use those points towards everything, including important for me, student loans.
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18:54 Bobby Lee? Like what members only experience do you use?
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18:59 Speaker 02 Yeah, that's one of them. You're kind of a members only guy.
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19:14 Bobby Lee? Yeah, anyway.
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22:21 Speaker 04 Yeah.
22:21 Bobby Lee? Okay.
22:22 Speaker 03 Bobby's got me spicy already.
22:23 Bobby Lee? I got, I got, I got him all spiced up.
22:24 Speaker 03 No, but I'm gonna be white trash for the rest of my life. I just will be to them in my head, right?
22:29 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
22:30 Speaker 03 I'm not gonna be a rich kid.
22:31 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
22:32 Speaker 03 Even my kids, I'm like, and we had money for a bit, we don't need more. Like, you know, my kids, they're not gonna be rich kids, you know what I mean? They're just not, we're not that way.
22:42 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
22:43 Speaker 04 Thank God, though.
22:44 Speaker 03 Yeah.
22:44 Speaker 04 Thank God.
22:45 Bobby Lee? Why, why thank God?
22:47 Speaker 04 I just feel as though like every... I mean, the way you're talking. Sorry, I know, I grew up in the Palisades.
22:57 Speaker 03 Fucking Palisades. I'm an executive. Can I tell you?
23:00 Speaker 02 Yeah, you're never gonna work again, so.
23:02 Speaker 03 I won't, I won't. I'm talking shit about Jews in the Palisades.
23:07 Speaker 03 I'll tell you, uh, this is my, this is how crazy, I grew up 45 minutes east of here, right?
23:12 Speaker 02 Yeah, yeah.
23:13 Speaker 03 Uh, and I came into town, I was doing commercials, whatever, I was like 18 and on. And I had this friend that grew up in the Palisades, and we had like a sketch group when I was like 19, 20.
23:25 Bobby Lee? Another sketch group.
23:26 Speaker 03 Yep.
23:29 Speaker 03 And we practiced, we practiced in his parents garage in the Palisades.
23:34 Bobby Lee? How do you practice? Oh, it was in that, oh sketches, okay.
23:39 Speaker 03 And this is how ridiculous the Palisades is. I was driving down the road in my shitty like 1988 Nissan Sentra at the time. And I had the windows rolled down and I had just put in like a CD player, you know what I mean?
23:53 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah.
23:53 Speaker 03 Like this is like where you had to take off the face. And I'm driving down the road and I'm playing Come Sail Away and I'm like rocking out like.
24:04 Speaker 03 Move it. And then a girl rides up to me on like a ninja motorcycle, like nods at me and rides off. I'm like, oh, nice. And I come up to another stoplight and I go in. And Arnold Schwarzenegger pulls up next to me in a convertible black Ferrari.
24:19 Speaker 03 In a T-shirt, a black T-shirt, dressed like the fucking Terminator. And looks at me and goes like that, gives me a thumbs up and drives on.
24:27 Bobby Lee? Wow.
24:28 Speaker 03 Fuck the Palisades.
24:30 Bobby Lee? That's good. You perceived it wrong. You perceived it wrong.
24:35 Speaker 03 Yes, I'm a negative person.
24:36 Bobby Lee? I know, I know. He would never give me a thumbs up. Yeah. He would go, fuck you.
24:41 Speaker 03 Yeah.
24:41 Bobby Lee? Bonhom Asian? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm a Bonhom Asian, dude. Yeah.
24:47 Speaker 03 I, that's probably true.
24:50 Bobby Lee? That's probably true. I think it is. I think, I really believe I'm a Bonhom Asian.
24:54 Speaker 04 We all are, I think, yeah.
24:56 Speaker 03 Yeah.
24:56 Bobby Lee? In this room, all the Asians in this room are Bonhom Asians?
24:59 Speaker 04 Yeah, and I'm thankful for that, too.
25:01 Speaker 03 I also love rich people, too, right?
25:03 Speaker 04 You do?
25:04 Bobby Lee? You do all of a sudden?
25:05 Speaker 03 No, no, like I.
25:07 Bobby Lee? Out of nowhere, you do?
25:08 Speaker 03 I deeply, I deeply resent them.
25:11 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah.
25:12 Speaker 03 But like, have you ever been like a really incredible rich person party?
25:16 Speaker 04 Yes.
25:16 Speaker 03 It's so.
25:17 Speaker 04 I love how like.
25:19 Bobby Lee? I went to Thanksgiving at Michael Bay's house.
25:20 Speaker 04 Oh, yeah.
25:23 Speaker 03 I, I went to this like Hollywood party years ago.
25:26 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
25:26 Speaker 03 I can't say who it was.
25:28 Bobby Lee? Why?
25:29 Speaker 03 Well, because it's, I don't know who it was. So no.
25:32 Bobby Lee? I see.
25:33 Speaker 03 No, no, no, I was invited to this party.
25:35 Bobby Lee? You don't know who it is.
25:36 Speaker 03 No, I was invited to this party. It was the agency I was with at the time. It was like the owner of the agency.
25:42 Bobby Lee? Can you tell me the agency?
25:43 Speaker 03 Uh, Paradigm. And it was like, the owner of the agency is like, has like, so much money. But it was their brother, I think.
25:51 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
25:51 Speaker 03 And it was in like, in a part of the Hollywood Hills I didn't know existed.
25:56 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
25:56 Speaker 03 It was like down in a back canyon kind of thing.
25:59 Bobby Lee? Michael Bay, Michael Bay.
26:00 Speaker 03 Where the hell am I?
26:01 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
26:01 Speaker 03 And like, their backyard had like, two pools. And in the middle of the pools was like, a green grass area that was like, the size of a football field.
26:10 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
26:10 Speaker 03 This is their backyard.
26:11 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
26:12 Speaker 03 And then they had like, um, uh, uh, what's the famous Nobu there?
26:19 Speaker 03 Like, and like, every alcohol you could think of, it just, whatever you want. And so I was like, oh, just top shelf, everything, open bar.
26:26 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
26:27 Speaker 03 So I just was drinking like, thirty year old Scotch, like crazy.
26:30 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
26:31 Speaker 03 And then I was like, I have to go to the bathroom. And they're like, oh, this guy will lead you down to the bathroom. And there's tons of people.
26:36 Bobby Lee? Other stars there?
26:37 Speaker 03 Uh, yeah.
26:38 Bobby Lee? A lot?
26:39 Speaker 03 Yeah, I, I remember, uh, God rest his soul, I was wasted. I cornered James Vanderbeek. And I talked to him for like, a half an hour.
26:45 Bobby Lee? Oh, yeah.
26:46 Speaker 03 And I walked back, and my wife was like, what were you guys talking about? I was like, I don't remember.
26:49 Bobby Lee? Yeah. Vanderbeek's in this podcast?
26:51 Speaker 03 Yeah.
26:52 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
26:52 Speaker 03 Nice guy, really nice.
26:53 Bobby Lee? Yeah, and rest in peace.
26:55 Speaker 03 And, uh, he, uh, anyhow, I had to go to the bathroom and we like, they like, led me down these stairs. And I went under this massive house and there was a movie theater. Um, with like, four pool table, like a pool hall connected to a movie theater. Connected to like, uh, like a concession area that was completely full. And it was just, and then there's a small bowling alley thing.
27:21 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
27:21 Speaker 03 And then I, I opened a door because I started snooping. And I saw twenty-two washers and dryers.
27:27 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
27:28 Speaker 04 Twenty-two?
27:29 Speaker 03 Twenty-two, I counted.
27:32 Bobby Lee? It's a sweatshop.
27:34 Speaker 03 And I was like, how do you?
27:35 Bobby Lee? They had other businesses going.
27:36 Speaker 03 Do you run 22 at one time?
27:38 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
27:39 Speaker 03 Like that blew my mind over everything.
27:41 Speaker 04 Is it coin operated?
27:44 Bobby Lee? That's really funny. Yeah, that's really funny. Very funny. Like a little token machine?
27:48 Speaker 04 No, it was just a serious question. Were they running a business?
27:51 Speaker 03 Yeah, 22 is crazy.
27:52 Speaker 04 22 is wild.
27:53 Speaker 03 I just couldn't believe it.
27:55 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
27:56 Speaker 03 And, uh...
27:57 Bobby Lee? Did they have those, one of those machines where you put like, you know, get snacks? Vending?
28:05 Speaker 03 No, there wasn't a vending machine. It was just, why would it be behind glass? It's just there to take.
28:10 Bobby Lee? Oh, right.
28:11 Speaker 03 Like when I was a kid, if there was a...
28:12 Bobby Lee? That'd be cool if there was a vending machine.
28:13 Speaker 03 If I was a kid, if there was a Snickers, you would eat the Snickers.
28:17 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
28:17 Speaker 03 You wouldn't be like, you know what, I'm gonna have that later.
28:19 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah.
28:20 Speaker 03 No, you eat it now.
28:22 Bobby Lee? Oh, you eat it now? Yeah, yeah. They had that.
28:24 Speaker 03 Yeah.
28:24 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I would just love my, like, my chip to get snagged at this party.
28:30 Speaker 03 Would that peek into the...
28:31 Bobby Lee? And pushing the machine so that it unsnags. Anyway.
28:33 Speaker 03 But that peek into that rich world is unbelievable.
28:36 Bobby Lee? I've peeked too. I'm a peeker. You know what I mean? And I've, I've peeked the...
28:41 Speaker 04 What did you see in Michael Bay's house where you were like, oh, I can never get to this level?
28:46 Bobby Lee? Well, I mean, I don't have a museum.
28:48 Speaker 04 Oh, he has a museum?
28:50 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah.
28:50 Speaker 03 Of his own stuff?
28:51 Bobby Lee? Of his own stuff.
28:52 Speaker 03 Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's awesome.
28:53 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah. So I have never been to an in-house museum.
28:56 Speaker 03 Yeah.
28:57 Bobby Lee? Of his own work.
28:57 Speaker 03 Yeah.
28:58 Bobby Lee? There's a bumblebee there.
28:59 Speaker 03 Sure.
29:00 Bobby Lee? The full thing.
29:01 Speaker 04 Really?
29:02 Bobby Lee? Oh, yeah, the car.
29:04 Speaker 04 Oh, my God.
29:04 Bobby Lee? Yeah, there's, um, I already told you that in the movie The Rock, the little, um, the ball...
29:10 Speaker 04 Oh, yeah, yeah.
29:11 Bobby Lee? The ball thing. Do you remember The Rock?
29:13 Speaker 03 Yeah.
29:14 Bobby Lee? Yeah, so I...
29:14 Speaker 03 The green, the green...
29:15 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah. So I picked that up. Um, he has a museum. He has a, um, movie theater. I saw a full-blown movie that hadn't been released yet. You know what I mean? In his movie theater. And then I also saw, um, he named his deer.
29:29 Speaker 04 He has a deer?
29:30 Bobby Lee? He has deers.
29:32 Speaker 04 Oh, just like free roaming in the neighborhood?
29:34 Bobby Lee? In his backyard. Oh, he goes, there's Frank. I go, okay.
29:38 Speaker 04 I mean, but that's not a rich person thing. Deer just come across people's property, whatever. I, I wanted to ask you guys, though, like, if you did have absolute, like, fuck you money, and you know, like, Michael Jackson got, like, a giraffe, like, what would be your first big fuck you purchase?
29:52 Speaker 03 I, I just would never, I, I can't imagine the amount of money where I'd ever spend like that.
29:58 Bobby Lee? Luke.
29:59 Speaker 03 I just wouldn't.
30:00 Bobby Lee? No, no, I would buy you.
30:01 Speaker 03 What?
30:05 Speaker 02 Give me the Palisades.
30:07 Bobby Lee? You're my bubble, you're my bubble, dude.
30:11 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
30:11 Speaker 03 Give me that little boy from the Palisades.
30:14 Bobby Lee? Neverending Ranch. That's what it's called. Neverending Ranch, and you'd be there.
30:18 Speaker 02 I, I, I.
30:18 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, you wouldn't do it? For how much money would I have to pay you to?
30:23 Speaker 02 I mean, it would have to be-
30:25 Speaker 04 To be his backyard giraffe.
30:26 Speaker 02 Yeah, honestly, if I could just live there for free, I'd probably do it.
30:29 Speaker 04 Luke, come on.
30:30 Bobby Lee? No, come on.
30:31 Speaker 04 Name a price, say like-
30:32 Bobby Lee? Name a price.
30:33 Speaker 02 I guess a million a year would be great.
30:34 Speaker 03 That's not true.
30:35 Bobby Lee? That's not true.
30:36 Speaker 03 Yeah.
30:36 Speaker 02 Point two.
30:37 Bobby Lee? Not in California.
30:37 Speaker 03 Not in California.
30:38 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
30:39 Speaker 03 Oh, boy, that's one of the problems.
30:40 Bobby Lee? Half of that.
30:41 Speaker 03 Yeah.
30:41 Bobby Lee? Yeah. I mean-
30:42 Speaker 02 Yeah, take it.
30:43 Bobby Lee? Yeah, I mean, people have been urging me to move out of LA for a bit now.
30:48 Speaker 04 To Tax Haven?
30:48 Bobby Lee? Tax, yeah.
30:49 Speaker 02 One of the tax havens.
30:50 Speaker 03 Yeah, but what are you gonna, we're gonna go Austin?
30:52 Bobby Lee? And that's what I'm saying, I don't know where else to go.
30:54 Speaker 03 Austin.
30:55 Speaker 04 Well, you love Washington.
30:56 Speaker 02 Puerto Rico?
30:57 Bobby Lee? Washington DC.
30:58 Speaker 04 No, Washington State.
30:59 Bobby Lee? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
31:00 Speaker 03 If you're gonna continue to do this, this sucks on Zoom, right?
31:04 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
31:04 Speaker 03 You gotta have people in person.
31:06 Bobby Lee? I know.
31:06 Speaker 03 You gotta be in a place where it is.
31:07 Bobby Lee? I know, so that's why I stay. It's only because of podcast guests. Is the only reason that's linking me into this town is podcasting. Because Andrew's not gonna move, and where he wants to move, he wants to move into a place where I don't wanna move, which is Phoenix.
31:23 Speaker 04 Oh, god, no.
31:24 Bobby Lee? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
31:24 Speaker 04 Oh, god.
31:25 Bobby Lee? I know, I know.
31:26 Speaker 03 He's moving to Phoenix?
31:27 Bobby Lee? He wants to move to Phoenix because of the taxes and also because of-
31:29 Speaker 03 Because of fucking golf.
31:30 Bobby Lee? Golf.
31:31 Speaker 03 Yeah.
31:31 Bobby Lee? Yeah, do you play golf?
31:32 Speaker 03 No.
31:35 Speaker 03 Golf sucks. Jesus Christ.
31:39 Bobby Lee? It sucks so bad.
31:39 Speaker 03 It's so boring. Gonna die from smelling their own farts. The shit is so boring.
31:44 Bobby Lee? I know, and because of global warming, that that place is gonna get hotter and hotter. In 2050, it's gonna be unlivable, Phoenix.
31:53 Speaker 03 The also, the the amount of, I can't, the amount of.
31:56 Bobby Lee? No, yeah, you can.
31:57 Speaker 03 The.
31:57 Bobby Lee? And you will. Say it.
31:59 Speaker 03 The wasted space of golf courses in Los Angeles alone. And and by the way, they're not taxed on this shit. They are not taxed on, it's billions of dollars. And you've got hundreds of thousands of homeless people in the street. And if you just tax the fucking golf courts, I can't.
32:16 Bobby Lee? Yeah, I know.
32:18 Speaker 03 I hate golf.
32:19 Bobby Lee? It churches too.
32:20 Speaker 03 Sure, oh, God.
32:21 Bobby Lee? Oh, my God, don't get me even started.
32:23 Speaker 03 We could all live our lives, uh, oh, my, you wanna lower taxes? Tax churches.
32:29 Bobby Lee? Tax churches, yeah, and oil companies. No?
32:32 Speaker 03 Yes.
32:33 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought you were like pausing on oil.
32:35 Speaker 03 No, I'm gonna end up, let me think about oil. Let me think about.
32:38 Speaker 04 Hate golf, but love oil?
32:42 Speaker 03 Big oil.
32:43 Bobby Lee? Yeah. So you think it's it's forever dead Hollywood?
32:46 Speaker 03 No, no, no, I think it's, no. I just think that it's working in a different way. And for people like you and me. No one is ever gonna give you the role you wanna get.
33:00 Bobby Lee? I know.
33:01 Speaker 03 Ever.
33:02 Bobby Lee? Ever.
33:02 Speaker 03 They're just not gonna do it because they.
33:04 Bobby Lee? You don't be so negative.
33:05 Speaker 03 And it's not.
33:07 Speaker 03 It's not just because you don't have, it's not because they don't have a role for you, it's because they they they don't have the money or the courage to cast you in something. Because they need the latest, like, what's the guy? He's a good actor, but he's he was gonna replace you in Death and Roman. Oh, that guy. That guy. Oh, yeah, yeah. He's like this super hot Asian guy with abs. Like crazy abs.
33:33 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
33:33 Speaker 03 You know what I'm talking about? The British guy. Yeah, and he's British, he's an excellent actor.
33:38 Bobby Lee? You were getting recast in that movie too.
33:40 Speaker 03 Yeah, of course. Of course I'm getting recast.
33:42 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah.
33:42 Speaker 03 No, it's just the kind of thing.
33:44 Bobby Lee? Alright, this is the deal. Let's talk about it.
33:47 Speaker 03 He's not from LA, right?
33:48 Bobby Lee? He's not from LA.
33:50 Speaker 03 He is. He's a kid from, uh, from New York and Hong Kong, right?
33:54 Bobby Lee? Hong Kong, yeah.
33:54 Speaker 03 Like, he's got that style. And he's young, so they don't know, like, uh, about... And also, your generation, sorry buddy. You don't know about, like, a respect or decorum.
34:05 Speaker 02 What? Oh, the fuck?
34:08 Bobby Lee? That, even that.
34:09 Speaker 03 Yeah.
34:09 Speaker 02 Okay.
34:12 Speaker 03 Cause, cause when I was your age, I'd keep my mouth fucking shut.
34:17 Bobby Lee? You learn and you listen. Yeah, yeah.
34:20 Speaker 03 If I talk that way in front of Michael Richards.
34:22 Bobby Lee? I, I, I, I know, dude.
34:24 Speaker 02 Also, you're saying this guy doesn't know the business. Hong Kong and New York, that's pretty business.
34:28 Speaker 03 No, no, no, I'm talking about the inside of the business. So he, like, made his first thing, and he was like, "Oh, cool, people like it. I wanna make it even cooler. Let's get some people that can get the movie funded." Me and Bobby can't get the movie funded.
34:40 Bobby Lee? No, we can.
34:41 Speaker 03 Maybe.
34:42 Bobby Lee? No, we can't.
34:42 Speaker 03 But not as much money, and we're not gonna get...
34:44 Bobby Lee? We can.
34:44 Speaker 03 Okay, okay.
34:46 Bobby Lee? We can.
34:46 Speaker 03 I don't have the confidence that you do.
34:48 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
34:48 Speaker 02 But isn't that, isn't that, like, kind of how the business works, anyway?
34:52 Speaker 03 No. No, the way the business works is people climb over your corpse to do that.
35:00 Speaker 02 That is true.
35:01 Speaker 03 People, people are like, "Hey, hey, can you, can you, give me a favor? I'm, I'm gonna, I'm gonna fuck you right now. Can you do me a favor? Just let me fuck you." And you're like, "Oh, okay, okay." And they're like, "Okay, I'm done fucking you." And then they walk over your body.
35:13 Bobby Lee? That's what they do.
35:14 Speaker 03 That's, that's...
35:15 Speaker 02 So that's what happened, it seems like.
35:17 Speaker 03 Because if someone calls...
35:18 Speaker 02 So the business happens.
35:19 Speaker 03 How many times in your career has somebody like, "Hey, can you come do this thing? It's no money." And on the next thing, it'll be it. Has there ever been a next thing?
35:27 Bobby Lee? No.
35:28 Speaker 03 Never.
35:28 Bobby Lee? Never been a next thing. I did this one thing, which was a miracle. I did a table read.
35:33 Speaker 03 Sure.
35:34 Bobby Lee? You're right, you're not cast, you're not, you're just doing me a favor, and you, you, can you do it? And I'm like, I looked at who was in it. And what the movie was and I was like, alright, I'll do it. And I got cast from the table read. That's the only time that's ever happened.
35:51 Speaker 04 Or I think there are some situations where um you just happen to be to say yes to something small and you meet someone there just by chance that leads to something else, which is like, you remember when you met Gene Hong?
36:07 Bobby Lee? That's the one time it's happened.
36:08 Speaker 04 Yes, um you went to Hawaii um for a a small, a small part in a movie.
36:13 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
36:14 Speaker 04 And then you just happened to run into someone else who was also filming there and then he actually got you on that show.
36:20 Bobby Lee? Yeah, so that's happened.
36:21 Speaker 03 But like, the the truth is.
36:24 Bobby Lee? Maybe you're not open enough.
36:25 Speaker 03 No, the truth is, they're they're like, people are like.
36:27 Bobby Lee? We're the mysteries of life.
36:30 Speaker 03 Eat, eat this bullshit, Bobby. And you're like, I I don't want to eat this bullshit.
36:36 Speaker 03 There's a line of people around the block willing to eat this bullshit, Bobby.
36:39 Bobby Lee? I know.
36:40 Speaker 03 And you're like, okay, I'll eat it. And then you eat it, you choke it down, they're like, good boy, good boy.
36:44 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
36:44 Speaker 03 And they come around again, they're like, I need you to eat another bullshit.
36:50 Speaker 03 I I don't want to.
36:51 Bobby Lee? I know.
36:51 Speaker 03 You already did, I know you can do it.
36:53 Bobby Lee? I know.
36:55 Speaker 03 And you're like, but I I already ate the bullshit. And then you're, you're sitting there next to ten empty bowls of shit, you're like, I'm sick.
37:03 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah. That's exactly what it is.
37:05 Speaker 03 Yeah.
37:05 Bobby Lee? But let me ask you this, though. I mean, you were a series regular on Mom?
37:09 Speaker 03 Yes. Chuck Lorre is the best.
37:11 Bobby Lee? I love Chuck, I bet him.
37:12 Speaker 03 The best.
37:13 Bobby Lee? The best, right?
37:14 Speaker 03 He, he uh.
37:15 Bobby Lee? How lo- how how long did that go?
37:16 Speaker 03 I did Mom for four years and then uh then I went off and I did another show and then Chuck came to me and offered me another show. And then I did this show called Bob Heart's Abish for five. So I did nine years of Chuck Lorre and he said he'd bring him back and he did and was like.
37:33 Bobby Lee? Yeah, so it does happen.
37:35 Speaker 03 Yeah, but I.
37:35 Bobby Lee? The global relationships.
37:36 Speaker 03 No, but I auditioned in the beginning for Mom for a series regular role and I was given something equal later, right?
37:42 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
37:42 Speaker 03 Like, I knew, he ne- I never did Chuck a favor, he did me a favor.
37:46 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah.
37:46 Speaker 03 The whole time, you know what I mean?
37:47 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
37:48 Speaker 03 It never really like built, it was just this thing that always was, right?
37:51 Bobby Lee? Yeah. So you're in the Chuck Lorre camp?
37:53 Speaker 03 I'm in the Chuck Lorre universe, yeah.
37:55 Bobby Lee? In the universe, yeah, yeah. So um could you live off that money?
38:00 Speaker 03 No.
38:00 Bobby Lee? Oh, okay.
38:01 Speaker 03 I could have at one time.
38:03 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
38:03 Speaker 03 But that, when I got on to. Yeah, I mean, if you want to get into the minutia of it, I I didn't have any, uh, what's the word? Leverage? Uh, and I didn't get a huge amount of money.
38:17 Bobby Lee? Oh, your quote, your quote was low.
38:19 Speaker 03 Low, very low when I started, mom, and it never got up. And then I left the show.
38:24 Bobby Lee? Could you, like?
38:25 Speaker 03 I never got that big payday.
38:26 Bobby Lee? Oh, you never did, yeah, because at that time, it changed?
38:30 Speaker 03 It had changed, so all those Big Bang guys got those, that huge payday.
38:34 Bobby Lee? I heard you talk about that.
38:35 Speaker 03 And they spun around and said to everybody else, that's not happening again.
38:38 Bobby Lee? And then in life, that will never happen again.
38:40 Speaker 03 I I don't think it's really gonna happen again.
38:42 Bobby Lee? Wow.
38:43 Speaker 03 They'll just cancel the show. They're like, okay, we'll make a different show.
38:48 Bobby Lee? Well, the numbers don't add up, though, anymore.
38:49 Speaker 03 They don't.
38:50 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
38:51 Speaker 03 And I I'm not blaming anybody for that, like, there's not the money to give us. I'm not asking for, you know, 500 grand an episode, anybody gets that is, you're gonna kill your show. But if they can afford to give you it, yeah, take it when it's there.
39:04 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
39:05 Speaker 03 But it's not, uh, there, that money's not there anymore.
39:09 Bobby Lee? It's not there anymore, yeah, yeah, so structurally, is it The Hobbit's fault?
39:13 Speaker 03 No, uh, it's, it's the internet's fault.
39:16 Bobby Lee? When I say The Hobbit.
39:16 Speaker 04 Who's The Hobbit?
39:17 Bobby Lee? What?
39:17 Speaker 04 Who's The Hobbit?
39:18 Bobby Lee? Sean Austin.
39:19 Speaker 03 No.
39:19 Bobby Lee? Okay, okay.
39:20 Speaker 03 No.
39:22 Bobby Lee? He's the president of, uh, um, after, uh, SAG.
39:26 Speaker 04 Oh, that's right.
39:27 Speaker 03 No, no, he, he walked into a situation that's been bad for decades.
39:29 Bobby Lee? Okay.
39:30 Speaker 03 It's just gotten worse and worse.
39:31 Bobby Lee? I want to blame The Hobbit, but I don't think I can.
39:33 Speaker 03 No, the merger between SAG and AFTRO was like.
39:36 Bobby Lee? Do you think Aragorn was like, you know what I mean, the?
39:40 Bobby Lee? The president of SAG that it would?
39:42 Speaker 03 No.
39:44 Speaker 04 Maybe he is, he is bilingual.
39:46 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He could do some fucking deals with the elves.
39:51 Speaker 04 No, not just that, he speaks Spanish, too.
39:53 Bobby Lee? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, oh, the actor.
39:55 Speaker 04 Yes.
39:55 Bobby Lee? Oh, the actor.
39:58 Speaker 04 Or you're thinking Aragorn, yeah, okay.
39:59 Bobby Lee? Yeah, the character.
40:00 Speaker 04 I see.
40:01 Bobby Lee? He speaks Elvis.
40:02 Speaker 04 Yeah.
40:02 Bobby Lee? He knows some dwarves.
40:03 Speaker 04 Yeah.
40:04 Bobby Lee? Yeah, anyway, um.
40:05 Speaker 03 No, the situation has been eroding for decades.
40:08 Bobby Lee? It's been eroding for, for decades, yeah.
40:10 Speaker 03 Yeah.
40:10 Bobby Lee? Well, I think the, the emergence of the internet and the emergence of, uh, um, streaming, the emergence of, uh, I mean, I think network television is pretty much dead.
40:22 Speaker 03 Yeah.
40:22 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah. I mean, the years.
40:23 Speaker 03 To an extent.
40:25 Bobby Lee? I mean, the years where we were doing it, like, cause you know, I was on, I think I've been on three series that got picked up.
40:31 Speaker 03 Yeah.
40:32 Bobby Lee? That actually aired, you know what I mean? In those days, I was like, oh, if this continues, this will be good.
40:38 Speaker 03 But also like.
40:39 Bobby Lee? And it was 22 episodes a year.
40:41 Speaker 03 But that, that, when you got that hit, you were like,
40:46 Speaker 03 let's say, let's, let's just say you got a 22 episode a year and you're gonna get 40,000 an episode, right?
40:51 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
40:52 Speaker 03 Which is really, actor math, like 20 grand an episode.
40:55 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
40:55 Speaker 03 You're, you're lucky if you get 50%, probably only get 33%.
40:58 Bobby Lee? Okay.
40:59 Speaker 03 Um, cause of agent, manager, uh, um, lawyer, that's 25% off before taxes and then they tax you on the gross. It's, so you're getting like 35%, right?
41:09 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
41:10 Speaker 03 So you're not even getting 40 an episode. You're getting like, yeah, like, like I said, like, uh, maybe 18.
41:16 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
41:16 Speaker 03 Um, but times 22, that's a lot of money. And back in the day, when you could go to the fanciest restaurant in Hollywood and only spend 200 bucks, oh, man.
41:24 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
41:25 Speaker 03 That's, you're living huge.
41:26 Bobby Lee? Huge.
41:27 Speaker 03 You could get a $300,000 house in North Hollywood.
41:29 Bobby Lee? Yes.
41:30 Speaker 03 Back then.
41:30 Bobby Lee? Back then, yes.
41:31 Speaker 03 Now it's $2 million for a house.
41:33 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
41:34 Speaker 03 And you're getting paid less per episode and they're only doing 10 episodes.
41:37 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
41:38 Speaker 03 And going to dinner anywhere in LA is $400.
41:41 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
41:42 Speaker 03 And, and also the restaurants suck.
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42:12 Speaker 04 I'm looking at.
42:13 Bobby Lee? I use it.
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42:20 Bobby Lee? I know. I use it and I do the bottom one here. Yeah, yeah. But now it's at the second level.
42:24 Speaker 04 Do you think that you could get up to this right here?
42:26 Bobby Lee? No, no. No, no, no, no.
42:28 Speaker 04 Okay.
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44:11 Bobby Lee? What do you mean?
44:12 Speaker 04 In LA?
44:13 Bobby Lee? In LA?
44:14 Speaker 03 No, I just.
44:15 Bobby Lee? Have you been to Damian?
44:16 Speaker 03 Yeah, sure, there are good restaurants.
44:18 Speaker 04 Say Damian is not, wow, Damian.
44:21 Bobby Lee? Yeah, what do you mean? Damian's so good.
44:22 Speaker 04 It's a sexy bar, but the food itself is mid.
44:25 Speaker 03 Yeah.
44:26 Bobby Lee? Okay, okay.
44:27 Speaker 03 My wife's a great cook. We eat better at home than at most restaurants.
44:30 Speaker 04 If you have a wife who is a great cook, there's really nothing beating that.
44:33 Speaker 03 It really is.
44:34 Bobby Lee? I don't know.
44:35 Speaker 04 There's.
44:35 Bobby Lee? I disagree. They're, they're.
44:37 Speaker 04 Dunbar's good.
44:39 Speaker 03 Dunbar's good.
44:39 Speaker 04 Yeah.
44:40 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Remember you took me to Major Domo for the first time?
44:42 Speaker 03 Yeah, that was great.
44:43 Bobby Lee? Yeah, that was really good. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
44:45 Speaker 03 Really good.
44:45 Bobby Lee? My point being is that that's all I get.
44:47 Speaker 04 You eat the up front.
44:48 Bobby Lee? I do the, I order, I, oh, yeah, I leave halfway during the movie.
44:52 Speaker 04 Yeah, yeah.
44:52 Bobby Lee? Like Disclosure Day.
44:54 Speaker 00 You walked out? You walked out?
44:56 Bobby Lee? No, I didn't walk. I haven't seen it yet.
44:57 Speaker 04 Okay.
44:58 Bobby Lee? But I hear people, I see a lot of TikToks going, we walked out.
45:00 Speaker 04 Yeah.
45:01 Bobby Lee? But there are also other TikTokers that are like, you know what I mean? It changed my life, so I'm gonna watch it Wednesday.
45:08 Speaker 03 Did you see The Fableman's?
45:09 Bobby Lee? No, good.
45:10 Speaker 03 No.
45:13 Speaker 00 Oscar nom.
45:13 Speaker 03 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
45:14 Bobby Lee? It was bad.
45:15 Speaker 03 Yeah, but I love his other movies, but boy, that movie, yikes.
45:19 Bobby Lee? Yeah, really.
45:21 Speaker 03 I'm fucking myself out of jobs.
45:23 Speaker 00 I love this.
45:24 Bobby Lee? No, no, I don't, no, you're not. You're, I, I think that we're in the age of being honest.
45:29 Speaker 03 Honest, okay.
45:30 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah, and your opinion, who cares?
45:33 Speaker 04 Yeah, who gives a shit about the Fableman?
45:37 Speaker 03 Yeah, who gives a shit?
45:38 Speaker 04 Yeah.
45:38 Speaker 03 But also, you're like complaining about you're not getting jobs. Everything, like, what job?
45:43 Speaker 04 Wait.
45:43 Speaker 03 I can name one show, one show on TV right, or two shows.
45:46 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
45:47 Speaker 03 That I would love to be on.
45:48 Bobby Lee? Okay.
45:49 Speaker 03 Outside of that, I don't care.
45:50 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
45:51 Speaker 03 I don't care.
45:52 Speaker 04 Who do you think, okay, in the spirit of honesty? Who are the top three women and top three male actors who are taking up too many roles and who should quit?
46:04 Bobby Lee? Not.
46:05 Speaker 03 I don't think anybody should quit.
46:06 Bobby Lee? I don't think anyone should quit, but I think that some people should go, you know what, I have enough.
46:10 Speaker 03 Yeah.
46:10 Speaker 00 Too much satire.
46:11 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
46:12 Speaker 03 There's too much Nicole Kidman, we all know that.
46:16 Speaker 00 Show every month.
46:17 Bobby Lee? I know.
46:17 Speaker 04 He is, yeah, before you see a movie, you see her face.
46:20 Speaker 03 And I went off on that on this other podcast, and I, and like, we're like, when is enough enough? I get it.
46:25 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
46:26 Speaker 03 But also, like, I don't know, maybe she's crazy and she is taking whatever she can get, because in her head, it'll all go away. That's fine.
46:33 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
46:33 Speaker 03 I, I don't blame her. I blame the, this industry that is like, me, think that all of her means something. Do you know what I mean?
46:43 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah.
46:44 Speaker 03 Just her is the only way your show could succeed.
46:46 Bobby Lee? Well, the.
46:47 Speaker 03 That's crazy.
46:47 Bobby Lee? But the proof is obsession. No stars.
46:51 Speaker 03 Oh, yeah.
46:52 Bobby Lee? The movie is making, gonna make hundreds of millions of dollars.
46:54 Speaker 03 Widows Bay?
46:55 Bobby Lee? I heard it's great.
46:56 Speaker 04 I, that's what I heard.
46:57 Speaker 03 I'm not kidding, it's one of the best shows I've ever seen.
46:59 Bobby Lee? Really?
46:59 Speaker 03 It's unbelievable.
47:00 Speaker 04 Is it like Twin Peaks level?
47:02 Speaker 03 It is Twin Peaks, if Twin Peaks was made by someone, I, it's better than Twin Peaks, I'm sorry.
47:09 Speaker 04 Really?
47:09 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah.
47:09 Speaker 03 I just rewatched Twin Peaks, and this is, it's just so good.
47:14 Bobby Lee? I'm watching it tonight.
47:15 Speaker 03 It's got like Coen Brothers feel to it.
47:17 Bobby Lee? Yeah, I love the Coen Brothers.
47:18 Speaker 03 But also, like, it's so fucking good, and Katie Dippold, who, uh, wrote and created it, she's a UCB, uh, person, like, she's a.
47:25 Bobby Lee? I know Katie Dippold.
47:26 Speaker 03 She's a writer, right, and, and.
47:27 Bobby Lee? She, she wrote on Mad TV for years.
47:29 Speaker 03 I know. She had to write that shit.
47:32 Bobby Lee? He did Ghostbusters.
47:33 Speaker 03 And now she's on Widows Bay. Now she's created it, like, one of the best shows.
47:38 Bobby Lee? What do you mean that shit, man?
47:43 Bobby Lee? God damn.
47:43 Speaker 03 First time I ever met Bobby.
47:45 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah.
47:46 Speaker 03 I want to say 2004 or 2005.
47:49 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
47:49 Speaker 03 I was back home from Amsterdam and I had a bunch of friends working on Mad and I like hung out backstage or like after party thing and Bobby cornered me and told me some of the most fucked up stories I've ever heard in my life. And I like walked away and Cole was like, hey, you all right, man? I was like, I don't know, man.
48:10 Speaker 00 The fuck did you say?
48:11 Speaker 04 He calls him his deep east darkies.
48:15 Speaker 04 His deepy darkies.
48:16 Speaker 03 That's really funny.
48:18 Bobby Lee? I mean, I mean, I've, I've heard that before where people like Eric Andre always says that, man, you used to tell me the weirdest fucked up stories.
48:26 Speaker 03 Yeah, yeah. No, but like Mad was, but SNL and Mad suck 85%.
48:32 Bobby Lee? Alright, it sucks!
48:34 Speaker 03 No, they suck 85% of the time, but the 15% that's good is really, really good.
48:37 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just keep it on the table, man.
48:41 Speaker 03 I have to clean up.
48:45 Speaker 03 I don't know if it's like.
48:46 Speaker 04 You know what it is?
48:46 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
48:47 Speaker 04 You're a working man.
48:48 Speaker 03 Yeah.
48:48 Speaker 04 You're not out of touch.
48:49 Speaker 03 I'm not out of touch.
48:50 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah, he's got it, yeah.
48:52 Speaker 03 Oh, thank you.
48:52 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah.
48:53 Speaker 03 It gives me.
48:54 Bobby Lee? There are people that I look on the billboards, I go, him again, him again.
48:58 Speaker 04 But like who, like who, I want to know.
49:00 Bobby Lee? Uh, I think Nick Offerman works a lot.
49:02 Speaker 03 He does.
49:02 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
49:03 Speaker 03 But he also, he does small enough.
49:05 Speaker 04 Yeah.
49:06 Speaker 03 It's not all about him.
49:07 Speaker 04 Yeah, he's not doing like every single big.
49:10 Speaker 03 He does work a lot.
49:10 Speaker 04 He does work a lot.
49:11 Bobby Lee? He works a lot.
49:12 Speaker 04 I love him though.
49:14 Bobby Lee? He's very talented. And in fact, if I had a project and I was doing it, I would try to make, give him one.
49:20 Speaker 03 But like the biggest name on Widows Bay is Matthew Reese.
49:23 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
49:24 Speaker 03 Who in the industry is a name, but like, uh, uh, people don't know who he is in the world.
49:30 Bobby Lee? Mad, I don't think it matters anymore.
49:32 Speaker 03 I don't think it does. I'm saying this show is proof, obsession is proof, like.
49:36 Bobby Lee? Backrooms.
49:37 Speaker 03 Yeah, you don't need these massive stars, just do something that's good and interesting. Uh, I mean, even, um, Adam Scott is kind of a name, but like.
49:46 Speaker 04 Yeah.
49:48 Speaker 03 Well, what's the name of the show?
49:49 Speaker 04 Severance.
49:50 Speaker 03 Severance, you know, they're not relying on these huge stars.
49:53 Bobby Lee? Yeah, they're not, yeah, yeah. I think, I think it's the content and it's the, um, originality. I mean, I, these new, these repeated IPs that they keep doing, I think that's fucking terrible.
50:05 Speaker 04 Yeah.
50:05 Bobby Lee? You know what I mean? We're remaking, you know what I mean? They, remember they remade Total Recall?
50:11 Speaker 03 Why?
50:12 Bobby Lee? I don't know even why you would remake Total Recall.
50:15 Speaker 03 Why would you remake Total Recall?
50:16 Bobby Lee? It was terrible!
50:18 Speaker 02 I've only seen the remake, so I don't really know.
50:20 Speaker 03 You've only seen the remake? Oh my god.
50:23 Bobby Lee? There's a problem.
50:24 Speaker 02 I didn't even know it was a remake until years later.
50:26 Speaker 03 The original?
50:27 Bobby Lee? Oh my god, this generation, we gotta kill them.
50:29 Speaker 03 The original Paul Verhoeven movie is so perfect.
50:33 Bobby Lee? It was so perfect.
50:34 Speaker 03 It's so
50:34 Bobby Lee? It's so good.
50:35 Speaker 03 dumb and great.
50:36 Bobby Lee? Yeah, it's dumb and great.
50:37 Speaker 03 Fuck.
50:38 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
50:38 Speaker 02 Three boobs.
50:39 Bobby Lee? What?
50:40 Speaker 03 You made me wish I
50:41 Bobby Lee? There's three boobs in the original.
50:42 Speaker 03 Yeah.
50:42 Speaker 04 Yeah.
50:43 Speaker 02 Well, there's in the remake too, good movie.
50:45 Speaker 03 Does he say, does he say in, in the remake, does he say, "You made me wish I had three hands"?
50:49 Speaker 02 I, uh, maybe, I think so.
50:51 Speaker 03 Oh, you'd remember!
50:52 Bobby Lee? I don't know. And the three boobs in the original is a much better boob.
50:56 Speaker 02 Okay, okay.
50:57 Bobby Lee? Yeah, they're plumpier.
50:58 Speaker 03 Sharon Stone?
50:59 Bobby Lee? Look at this, look at this.
51:01 Speaker 03 Look at this, that's a movie right there.
51:04 Speaker 03 And also, I don't blame Colin Farrell, I love Colin Farrell.
51:07 Bobby Lee? He's killing it too.
51:08 Speaker 03 But Colin Farrell now, like, post, I have, uh, fuckboy Colin Farrell is so much better.
51:14 Speaker 04 Yeah, I think so too.
51:14 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
51:15 Speaker 03 And that's one of the other things is, everything is either fuckboys, like, just, it's nothing but, like, these gore, like,
51:24 Bobby Lee? You think Shalhoub, you think Shalhoub is a fuckboy?
51:26 Speaker 04 Like Jacob Elordi's.
51:27 Speaker 03 They're just so attractive.
51:28 Speaker 04 Yeah.
51:29 Speaker 03 If you go back and watch 80s and 90s movies, nobody is that attractive. You're not allowed to be the lead of a movie if you're that attractive, because it's too distracting.
51:37 Speaker 04 Right.
51:37 Speaker 03 Like, girls and guys.
51:39 Speaker 04 If you look at all of the John Hughes movies, like, none of them, like, what's his name? The guy from Pretty in Pink? He was so okay, but just cute.
51:47 Speaker 03 Yeah.
51:47 Speaker 02 Yeah.
51:48 Speaker 03 Cute. Or even like, uh, James Spader in 16 Candles?
51:51 Speaker 04 Yeah.
51:52 Speaker 03 Like, he's like the bad guy, he would be played by the hottest guy ever now.
51:57 Speaker 04 Yeah.
51:57 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
51:58 Speaker 03 Whereas back then you have a weird ass guy like James Spader, that's so much more fun to watch.
52:02 Speaker 04 Although you do have, like, the Barry
52:05 Speaker 03 Keegan.
52:05 Speaker 04 Keegan, yeah.
52:06 Bobby Lee? Coogan.
52:06 Speaker 04 Coogan.
52:08 Speaker 03 Sure, but he's not in these, I, I, he's in weird.
52:11 Bobby Lee? Well, he's in Batman, the new Batman.
52:12 Speaker 04 Yeah, he was in Saltburn with Jacob.
52:15 Speaker 03 Right, yeah, but these are British.
52:17 Bobby Lee? Here's my theory on that. Let me just hear him finish my, so if you watch, I've said this before.
52:22 Speaker 04 Yeah.
52:22 Bobby Lee? If you watch the movie E.T.
52:24 Speaker 04 Yeah.
52:24 Bobby Lee? Okay?
52:25 Speaker 03 Yeah.
52:25 Bobby Lee? And you look at, um, he was the ma, I think, I think Spielberg is the master of making a house look like an everyday house.
52:32 Speaker 03 Yeah, it's great.
52:33 Bobby Lee? So if you look in the house, it thinks they're just disheveled, chaotic, you know what I mean? It feels real.
52:39 Speaker 04 Yeah.
52:39 Speaker 03 Yeah, the, the rooms are only lit by the lights that are in that room. It's not like this bright ass room.
52:44 Bobby Lee? Even Close Encounters, if you see the house there, it feels real. Now, if you watch a house in a movie, it looks like it's like for sale and it's like, you know what I mean? An Ikea showroom looking house. It doesn't look real, the people don't look real, it's like, I think in the eighties, they cho, they, they booked real looking people. That people could relate to.
53:07 Speaker 04 I feel like a lot of the UK shows still do that.
53:09 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah, yeah, they're ugly as fuck. I wouldn't fuck anybody in that, in those shows.
53:14 Speaker 03 I love an ugly actor.
53:16 Bobby Lee? Me too!
53:16 Speaker 03 You're a great actor.
53:19 Bobby Lee? You're gonna get work, a lot of work. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm ugly. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, you were ugly.
53:25 Speaker 03 I'm Hollywood.
53:26 Bobby Lee? You were so ugly. You're not, I think you're ugly, I don't think you're, I think you're good looking now.
53:29 Speaker 03 I know, but I'm Hollywood ugly, right?
53:31 Bobby Lee? You are Hollywood ugly.
53:32 Speaker 03 I'm Hollywood ugly.
53:33 Bobby Lee? You're Midwest hot, though.
53:34 Speaker 03 I'm a Midwest eight.
53:35 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
53:35 Speaker 03 I'm a Hollywood four.
53:36 Bobby Lee? Yeah, no, no, no, no, but you're the, you're, you, but there's something about your face where you're, you seem like a happy guy and you're.
53:46 Speaker 03 Oh, in, on, on film.
53:47 Bobby Lee? On film.
53:50 Bobby Lee? Not now, yeah, yeah, not as a person, but, yeah, yeah. I mean, cause I've worked with you.
53:55 Speaker 03 Yeah.
53:56 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah, yeah, which was a grueling. The most groovy. Yeah, yeah.
54:00 Speaker 03 Wasn't great.
54:00 Bobby Lee? It wasn't great and um what had conspired after that was just really devastating. And it enraged me. It enraged me. Yeah, yeah.
54:10 Speaker 03 I do have a thing now where people ask me to do something, I'm like, well, if you make something else, then I have to be involved. Else I'm not doing this shit for free.
54:19 Speaker 04 Get that shit on paper.
54:21 Bobby Lee? I'm gonna get it on paper next time too.
54:22 Speaker 03 Yeah.
54:23 Bobby Lee? Because he, this dude told us, when we make the movie, you guys are gonna be in it. He, this fool told us that.
54:29 Speaker 03 Yeah, and then he saw like a commercial for something A24 and he just jerked off and was like.
54:33 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the guy.
54:36 Speaker 04 Did you get replaced by Charles Melton?
54:39 Bobby Lee? No, no. If it was Charles, because I know Charles, I'd be honored.
54:43 Speaker 04 Okay.
54:43 Speaker 03 Who's, who's supposed to replace me ever yet?
54:45 Bobby Lee? They haven't even cast that yet.
54:47 Speaker 03 Oh, right.
54:47 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
54:48 Speaker 03 Be someone really hot. Like, that guy's gorgeous.
54:51 Speaker 04 Oh, I see.
54:54 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
54:54 Speaker 02 That whole thing kinda ruined Project Hail Mary for me, honestly.
54:57 Bobby Lee? What?
54:58 Speaker 02 Ryan Gosling does not seem like a scientist, teacher. They're like, he's like, me? I could never do it. And he's in like a little cardigan, but he has like perfect hair and perfect highlights and all this stuff. And he's supposed to be like a school teacher that they just find.
55:09 Bobby Lee? He's one of the greatest actors of our generation.
55:11 Speaker 03 He's excellent in the movie, but you do have a point.
55:14 Speaker 02 It was like, this is so, they're like, he's like, little old me? It's like, you're like the hottest guy ever. I feel like you'd walk in and be like, who the fuck is this?
55:20 Speaker 03 Do you know who would play him, be in Project Hail Mary if it was made in like 1985? Richard Dreyfuss.
55:26 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
55:27 Speaker 04 I love him.
55:27 Speaker 03 You know, like a bull.
55:29 Bobby Lee? Yes.
55:30 Speaker 03 Guy who's a real piece of shit in real life.
55:36 Bobby Lee? Yeah, I, I, I, I mean, if we wanna go all Hollywood, I, I can tell you who the pieces of shit are. You want me to say something?
55:43 Speaker 04 I don't want you to ruin Richard Dreyfuss for me.
55:45 Speaker 03 Oh, well, he's done it for himself.
55:47 Bobby Lee? He's done it for himself. Yeah, yeah. I, I, I'll throw a name out.
55:50 Speaker 03 He's an excellent.
55:51 Bobby Lee? Helen Hunt.
55:52 Speaker 03 Oh, boy.
55:53 Bobby Lee? Oh, boy. Have you, have you, has she ever?
55:54 Speaker 03 No, no, no, no.
55:55 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
55:57 Speaker 04 To your point about like not believing Ryan Gosling, you know, there's this whole like sentiment around not casting anyone who's done any body modifications in any historical pieces.
56:08 Speaker 02 Yeah, yeah.
56:09 Speaker 03 It's done. You're done.
56:09 Speaker 04 Yeah, like, I think that, that has to be true because it's like you see these, like, even they did a show about um Stevie Nicks and, you know, and they cast girls with. You know, lip fillers and it just does not look right. Like you can tell.
56:24 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
56:25 Speaker 04 And it's just, it takes you out of the whole era altogether.
56:28 Bobby Lee? Yeah. Totally. Yeah, but it's all just to sell products.
56:33 Speaker 03 It is.
56:33 Bobby Lee? Yeah, it's all to sell products.
56:35 Speaker 03 So like if you wanna be in this TV show or movie, whatever the fuck it is.
56:39 Bobby Lee? What are you talking about?
56:39 Speaker 03 Like I'm saying, you wanna act. You're complaining.
56:42 Bobby Lee? I'm doing a movie in July.
56:44 Speaker 03 Great.
56:44 Bobby Lee? And I wanna tell you this, I never read it. I don't know what my part is, right? They just go, do you wanna do this movie? I go, how much is it? And they tell me the number and I go, okay, I'll do it. You wanna read it?
56:57 Speaker 03 No. Sure.
56:58 Bobby Lee? No one's gonna see it.
57:00 Speaker 03 Fair.
57:00 Bobby Lee? Yeah. So that's what, that's where I'm at.
57:03 Speaker 04 This is not good promo.
57:07 Speaker 03 But also like.
57:08 Bobby Lee? I'm sure it's great.
57:08 Speaker 03 I'm saying this.
57:09 Bobby Lee? I'm sure it's gonna be great.
57:11 Speaker 03 The realization I came to with all of this is like, let's say the greatest movie or the greatest TV show ever, like in my wildest dreams, what's gonna happen, right? Uh, okay, I'm doing really well. And then, uh, I, I get nominated for an Emmy and I win an Emmy. And I'm standing on the stage and I go, oh, thank you for Miami.
57:30 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
57:31 Speaker 03 And I go home and then there's a bunch of phone calls for all of these new products and shows. And now I'm gonna have tons of money.
57:39 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
57:39 Speaker 03 Oh, great. Everything's great. And I'm not gonna see my kids as much because I'm gone all the time.
57:44 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
57:44 Speaker 03 I was gonna tear apart my relationship with my wife. And absolutely. I, I get, you wanna, do you want me to list about 40 different famous people that used to be happy? Just it aren't because they're famous now? I'll tell you that.
57:58 Speaker 04 It just took such a turn so quickly. This is like the driving through the Palisades story where.
58:02 Speaker 03 God damn kid, welcome to the real world.
58:05 Bobby Lee? The real world, dude.
58:06 Speaker 03 Takes a turn real quickly.
58:10 Speaker 03 All of a sudden you blow up, right? So I'm, I'm, I'm, I, I, I try not to concentrate on how shitty it all is right now.
58:17 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
58:18 Speaker 03 Like just jobs that come and go and me being that like mid-range kinda like I'm just in stuff. I wanna be Nick Offerman, right?
58:26 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah.
58:26 Speaker 03 I don't need to be in the front.
58:28 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
58:28 Speaker 03 I'm already the main character in my life.
58:30 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
58:31 Speaker 03 I got a beautiful wife and two kids. I'm doing great.
58:33 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
58:34 Speaker 03 I don't need to be the main character in your shitty thing that sells boner pills.
58:38 Bobby Lee? Anyway, let's move on.
58:41 Speaker 04 So weird.
58:42 Bobby Lee? Uncomfortable. Uh, yeah, what, what's, what, what?
58:45 Speaker 03 I didn't say anything.
58:46 Bobby Lee? People age.
58:47 Speaker 03 He's talking about blowing up.
58:49 Bobby Lee? Yeah, go ahead, tell the story.
58:50 Speaker 04 Cause I really want, um, Matt to weigh in. Um, so I had to field a very distressed phone call from his pool guy. Cause he's like, ah, I don't know what this is, but like, I've been coming here every single week. I'm doing everything I can, but like the pool is brown.
59:06 Bobby Lee? Black.
59:07 Speaker 04 Black. I was on that phone call.
59:10 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
59:11 Speaker 04 He's like, pool is brown. There's something in here and you know, he was like losing his mind, being like, I don't know what I did. He thought he was at fault.
59:18 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah. It was my fault.
59:20 Speaker 04 Only to find out that Bobby has picked up a new hobby of distressing t-shirts. And he was pouring coffee into his pool, this beautiful pool. He wanted to stain the shirt. And I wanna ask you guys if you think that that's out of touch or artistic?
59:42 Speaker 03 Um, I.
59:47 Speaker 03 I think it's just, uh, stupid.
59:51 Bobby Lee? Eccentric.
59:51 Speaker 03 It's just stupid.
59:52 Bobby Lee? No, eccentric.
59:53 Speaker 03 Yeah, it's just like, that's a dumb thing to do.
59:55 Bobby Lee? It's not dumb.
59:55 Speaker 03 And then you learn from it.
59:57 Speaker 02 What gave you the idea to use the, you didn't have like a bucket or something or like a bathtub?
1:00:02 Bobby Lee? Yeah, I have buckets now.
1:00:04 Speaker 02 Okay.
1:00:04 Speaker 03 He learned.
1:00:05 Bobby Lee? I learned, see, that's the moral of this podcast. And there's always a story to be told.
1:00:10 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:00:11 Bobby Lee? Right? And the story and the moral of this podcast is you learn.
1:00:14 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:00:15 Bobby Lee? You make a mistake and you learn. Yeah. And guess what? The pool is clear now. Okay?
1:00:21 Speaker 03 Do you ever go in it?
1:00:22 Bobby Lee? I do. I went in there yesterday. Yeah. You know, I'm living in a, um, almost retirement age.
1:00:29 Speaker 03 Okay.
1:00:29 Bobby Lee? Yeah, I'm, I'm headed toward like figuring things out so that I can get out.
1:00:35 Speaker 03 I've been going to a lot of friends 50th birthday parties.
1:00:38 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
1:00:38 Speaker 03 And it is a weird deal.
1:00:40 Bobby Lee? Yeah. How old are you now?
1:00:41 Speaker 03 I am, uh, almost 45.
1:00:44 Bobby Lee? Wow.
1:00:44 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:00:45 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah.
1:00:45 Speaker 03 And, um, it's weird.
1:00:48 Bobby Lee? Yeah, it's not weird.
1:00:50 Speaker 03 No, no, it's just weird that like I'm watch, I, I have a lot of friends have died recently.
1:00:54 Bobby Lee? I had a friend die yesterday.
1:00:55 Speaker 03 Yeah, like, uh, uh, all different reasons. And you're just like, I just can't give a shit anymore. About what, about what people think.
1:01:05 Bobby Lee? Oh, I thought you was like that.
1:01:07 Speaker 03 I used to be worried about what people think and I just, I'm not.
1:01:09 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah. I'm at a point where I don't give a shit.
1:01:13 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:01:13 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah. And you know, that, when I always saw some of the videos that, that were popping up with you, right? It was very interesting because perception wise, wise, I always thought that, oh, Matt Jones is killing it. And, and I had an envy almost about you, you know what I mean? And then I was like, it was very interesting to see that other guy named Kirk Avedino.
1:01:37 Speaker 03 Acevitos.
1:01:38 Bobby Lee? Whatever. Um, he was talking about Acevito. He was also talking about how he has to move and, and this and that. And then it became, I, I started having real deep empathy for people that I, um, you know, know and, um, that are great actors that I've always not envied, but I was like, good for them, you know? And it's like, it's so interesting to watch something die, you know? You know, it's so interesting to see this thing that I spent my whole life reaching for and desiring and working my, cause we've been through some fire.
1:02:16 Speaker 03 Sure.
1:02:17 Bobby Lee? You know what I mean? We went through some pain and some fire to get here. You know what I mean? And to, for it to die is very, very interesting, you know? And a kid like this, you know, who, who has the same desires as we did.
1:02:31 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:02:32 Bobby Lee? How old are you now?
1:02:33 Speaker 02 25.
1:02:33 Bobby Lee? Yeah. Yeah.
1:02:35 Speaker 03 25.
1:02:36 Bobby Lee? Yeah. And, and it's like, why are you smiling?
1:02:38 Speaker 02 I don't know. Why are you laughing at it?
1:02:40 Speaker 03 So when I was 25, so I booked my first episode of Breaking Bad when I was 25.
1:02:45 Speaker 02 Oh, great. I'm already fucking behind.
1:02:46 Speaker 03 20 years. No, but at that point, I had already been trying to work for eight years, seven years. Cause I started at 18. I didn't go to college. Cause I'm not a rich kid.
1:03:01 Speaker 03 No, but like I'm saying like so much has happened like that since then in that past 20 years like some people I was on the street the other day and a guy's like, you know, hey, man, you got any fucking meth or whatever? And I'm with my, my kids and my wife. And
1:03:18 Bobby Lee? Oh, because of the show?
1:03:19 Speaker 03 Yeah, because they think I'm the same person I was 20 years ago. Right?
1:03:24 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
1:03:24 Speaker 03 That perception is gonna be with me forever.
1:03:27 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
1:03:27 Speaker 03 Right?
1:03:27 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
1:03:28 Speaker 03 So I'm still kind of stuck in this 25 year old things sometimes. I get really angry about it. Cause I'm like, other things have happened in 20 years.
1:03:38 Bobby Lee? I draw, I'm walking down the street and people will yell out, yell out, oh, oh, hot dog.
1:03:43 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:03:43 Bobby Lee? Which is a sketch I did and Matt, yeah, and it, it, it puts a chill on your
1:03:47 Speaker 03 Or they call you Mrs. Swan. You're like, that wasn't even
1:03:51 Bobby Lee? I know. I've gotten that it too.
1:03:53 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:03:53 Bobby Lee? I, how do you know that happens to me?
1:03:54 Speaker 03 Yeah, cause I guess.
1:03:58 Bobby Lee? Yeah, you can guess.
1:03:59 Speaker 03 Because, because I, by the way, the, uh, the, uh, uh, Venn diagram of Matt TV fans and Breaking Bad fans. I mean, it's really
1:04:06 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:04:07 Speaker 03 A lot of like teenage Hispanic boys.
1:04:11 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It really is.
1:04:12 Speaker 03 Really is.
1:04:13 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah. Which is a good thing.
1:04:14 Speaker 03 It's a great thing.
1:04:14 Bobby Lee? It's a great thing. Yeah. And then I, I, it was interesting to see you talk about, um, the conventions.
1:04:22 Speaker 03 Oh, yeah.
1:04:23 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And, um, you know, it's, the conventions is what we call Luke, stay tuned.
1:04:30 Speaker 03 I'm listening.
1:04:32 Bobby Lee? The conventions are basically us going on the road. Yeah. I mean, it's like road dates. And it's like, I mean, oh, I gotta be in Cleveland, you know, I mean, to do something is pretty much. And you, you know, actors do that to make some extra cash. It's like personal appearance. And your personal appearance person does that from your agency, right? The same person that does your comedy, that does the probably the comedy bookings as well, you know? So it's interesting to see how that, cause even when I go on the road, um, you know, I sold 5,000 tickets in Toronto, but my point is, is that, um,
1:05:08 Bobby Lee? yeah, but it, um, but still.
1:05:20 Bobby Lee? Just let me get it. Let me just get my laugh out.
1:05:27 Bobby Lee? Anyway, um, the convention scene has died as well. You've done them.
1:05:34 Speaker 03 Yeah, uh.
1:05:35 Bobby Lee? What is it like?
1:05:36 Speaker 03 Well, it was, I haven't done a ton.
1:05:38 Bobby Lee? But what do you do? You, you sit there at a booth?
1:05:40 Speaker 03 Sit at a table.
1:05:42 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
1:05:42 Speaker 03 And, uh, there's a thing behind you and it says like Matt Jones and it maybe lists the shows I've been on.
1:05:48 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
1:05:48 Speaker 03 And people like, I, I mean, it's, it's just everything. It's, you have people that are seven hundred pounds or, or like the hottest girl you've ever seen.
1:06:00 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
1:06:01 Speaker 03 Like, it's just all white walks of.
1:06:03 Bobby Lee? America.
1:06:03 Speaker 03 America.
1:06:04 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
1:06:05 Speaker 03 And they walk by and they go, oh, oh, you're in, huh? And then they keep walking. And you see it all day long. And I'm sitting next to people that are Oscar winner types all the time.
1:06:18 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
1:06:19 Speaker 03 And I, and no one's doing well.
1:06:23 Bobby Lee? Right.
1:06:23 Speaker 03 Anymore. I mean, there are.
1:06:25 Bobby Lee? So how do you make the money? So they wait in line?
1:06:27 Speaker 03 Animation's doing well. Like, uh, if you're like the voice on One Piece, you're doing great.
1:06:32 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
1:06:32 Speaker 03 Uh, Mikail is doing great.
1:06:35 Bobby Lee? Yeah. So they, they, so they wait in line and they, and how do you make the money?
1:06:39 Speaker 03 Okay. So there'll be a thing that says like selfie, not a price. I don't know what people's prices are.
1:06:46 Bobby Lee? What's your price?
1:06:46 Speaker 03 I, I honestly don't know. It changes per convention.
1:06:50 Bobby Lee? Let me guess.
1:06:51 Speaker 03 Okay, selfies how much?
1:06:52 Bobby Lee? I would, five bucks?
1:06:58 Speaker 03 No.
1:06:59 Bobby Lee? More, more?
1:07:00 Speaker 03 Selfies like thirty bucks.
1:07:01 Bobby Lee? Are you on your mind? I take selfies every day.
1:07:04 Speaker 03 I take selfies.
1:07:04 Bobby Lee? For free.
1:07:05 Speaker 03 I take selfies for free, always.
1:07:07 Bobby Lee? Yeah, so.
1:07:08 Speaker 03 Only if I'm at that table would I charge for it. Cause everybody else.
1:07:11 Bobby Lee? Difference between it being inside a building and outside a building?
1:07:14 Speaker 03 Everybody else is charging for it and you're fucking the people out of their money if you're doing it for free. Cause you're lowering the entire thing.
1:07:22 Bobby Lee? So everyone's thirty dollars?
1:07:24 Speaker 03 Oh, uh, thirty's the cheapest.
1:07:26 Bobby Lee? Oh, that's.
1:07:26 Speaker 03 Some people are like a hundred for.
1:07:28 Speaker 04 How much would you charge Bobby? Or an indoor selfie?
1:07:32 Bobby Lee? Free.
1:07:33 Speaker 04 No, no.
1:07:33 Bobby Lee? If I'm at a convention.
1:07:34 Speaker 04 Yeah, you have to.
1:07:35 Speaker 02 You have to sit there though.
1:07:36 Speaker 03 You have to go there. You can't be free.
1:07:38 Bobby Lee? I'd be the bottom of whatever the bottom is.
1:07:41 Speaker 03 Yes.
1:07:41 Bobby Lee? If it's thirty dollars, then probably thirty dollars.
1:07:44 Speaker 03 So what it is, is like thirty bucks.
1:07:46 Bobby Lee? Okay.
1:07:46 Speaker 03 There you go.
1:07:46 Speaker 02 This is like an animation.
1:07:47 Speaker 03 Selfie is forty for A.J. Lucaschio, the voice of Gambit from the nineties.
1:07:55 Bobby Lee? That's a selfie?
1:07:56 Speaker 03 That's forty dollars.
1:07:58 Bobby Lee? Autograph print, sixty. I do that for free.
1:08:02 Speaker 03 And then the combos are eighty.
1:08:03 Bobby Lee? Autograph selfie, eighty. Voice recording, seventy. Premium item, eighty. Wow. Wow. Who's the cheapest in there? Oh, here we go. Alfa Takahashi. She charges twenty dollars premium item. Wow, so that's how they make their money?
1:08:21 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:08:21 Bobby Lee? I have no, I don't know anything about that world.
1:08:24 Speaker 02 But have you considered doing like improv shows? Like you have this whole other skill set that like might be more fun than.
1:08:29 Speaker 03 Do improv shows where?
1:08:31 Speaker 02 Like you're saying that you only do three or four improv shows a year or something, but maybe you could like, do you ever consider doing stuff like that instead of like a convention thing? That seems kind of.
1:08:38 Speaker 03 Okay, you just don't make money that way. People, it's just not a thing.
1:08:43 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:08:43 Speaker 03 Um.
1:08:45 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah.
1:08:46 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:08:46 Bobby Lee? Here's the thing.
1:08:47 Speaker 03 I could go, I will literally could. I've had off, I could do stand up, right? And that is a hard, hard life. It's really hard work.
1:08:58 Bobby Lee? How do you know?
1:09:00 Speaker 03 Cause every, cause you've just gone all the time. How many, how many nights a week would you say he should go do sets?
1:09:06 Bobby Lee? How many nights do you do a week?
1:09:08 Speaker 02 Like I try to do every night?
1:09:09 Speaker 03 Yeah, that's every single night.
1:09:10 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
1:09:11 Speaker 03 That's hard.
1:09:12 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
1:09:12 Speaker 03 Any job where you're doing something every single night, that's hard. I put my kids to bed.
1:09:16 Bobby Lee? But it's, um.
1:09:18 Speaker 03 You know?
1:09:18 Bobby Lee? But it's, um, fun.
1:09:20 Speaker 03 Yeah, absolutely.
1:09:22 Bobby Lee? Okay.
1:09:22 Speaker 03 Absolutely.
1:09:23 Bobby Lee? But you're in a different situation. What I would say to you is, is that, um, I think it would be fun if you got a set together. You have ten.
1:09:31 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:09:31 Bobby Lee? Get twenty-five.
1:09:32 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:09:32 Bobby Lee? And then like, you know, I mean, if I do a theater date or something.
1:09:35 Speaker 03 Let's do it.
1:09:35 Bobby Lee? Just come do it.
1:09:36 Speaker 03 Absolutely.
1:09:37 Bobby Lee? And then, um, and I think that, you know, um, can I make some suggestions?
1:09:43 Speaker 03 Absolutely.
1:09:45 Bobby Lee? And you'll be open?
1:09:46 Speaker 03 I'm listening.
1:09:48 Bobby Lee? I feel.
1:09:49 Speaker 03 I'll tell you to fuck off.
1:09:50 Bobby Lee? I feel like a defense system is going up. Because I did text you, I did text you some stuff and then you didn't.
1:09:56 Speaker 03 No, but you said about a podcast.
1:09:58 Bobby Lee? I know, I know, I know. So it's like, you know, I feel like there's just some defenses going up and you're like, fuck this guy.
1:10:04 Speaker 03 I.
1:10:05 Bobby Lee? I'm trying to help you.
1:10:06 Speaker 03 Okay.
1:10:06 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? I think that you're a talent, you're my friend, and I'm trying to fucking help you.
1:10:11 Speaker 03 Okay, alright, I'm taking it.
1:10:12 Bobby Lee? I don't want any defense. Okay, that's all. So, um.
1:10:16 Speaker 03 Shut the fuck up!
1:10:18 Bobby Lee? I know. So, um, there's a couple of things I want to say. Okay, so number one is, um, why don't you do sketches?
1:10:27 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:10:27 Bobby Lee? With your friends, online, right, and put them out.
1:10:31 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:10:31 Bobby Lee? There's some sketches, people that I don't, never even heard of, from the Midwest, that I follow and I love their sketches.
1:10:37 Speaker 03 Yeah, there's a couple of really funny accounts.
1:10:39 Bobby Lee? Yeah, so, you know what I mean? You have that skill set.
1:10:41 Speaker 03 Have you watched Cheese Parade?
1:10:43 Bobby Lee? No.
1:10:43 Speaker 03 They're good. I'm obsessed with them.
1:10:45 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah, so I'll look up Cheese Parade, write that down for me. Um, Cheese Parade, and, um, that's number one. I don't see you doing that.
1:10:53 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:10:54 Bobby Lee? And I think that you can, you know, figure out, you know, it's cheap, not a lot of money, it's just the writing.
1:11:01 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:11:01 Bobby Lee? And who you do it with.
1:11:02 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:11:03 Bobby Lee? Yeah, and they don't have to be long.
1:11:04 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:11:05 Bobby Lee? So that's one thing. I know it feels like you're selling out, and it feels like desperation.
1:11:10 Speaker 03 No, no, no, it just feels like a younger man's game.
1:11:12 Bobby Lee? It's not a younger man's game.
1:11:13 Speaker 03 Yeah, that just feels like that's what he should be doing.
1:11:16 Bobby Lee? No, no, there's, there's these seventy and eighty.
1:11:19 Speaker 03 And to be fair, I've had, I've been busy working on jobs for a while, and now.
1:11:25 Bobby Lee? Well, then what's the problem?
1:11:26 Speaker 03 No, no, no, no, but now I'm not, and now I need to listen to shit like this.
1:11:30 Bobby Lee? Okay.
1:11:30 Speaker 03 And take this advice, absolutely.
1:11:32 Bobby Lee? So I would, number one, do that, okay? And number two, um, you have improv skills, and I could, I will be fairly honest with you right now. No, I'll be completely honest. Yeah, yeah, not fairly. Um, what I want to say is,
1:11:48 Bobby Lee? The thing is, is that, I, I, there's some, and, uh, what, what's it called? Bobby-isms?
1:11:53 Speaker 02 Bobby-ism, the thing is, is that, yeah.
1:11:55 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, I hate doing that. Anyway, anyway's another one. It's, it's one of my transitions. There's a lot of things that are glaring, but let me, I'm just going through my own little.
1:12:05 Speaker 03 I was listening, I was listening to myself in that podcast I did, and I said um like 10,000 times.
1:12:13 Bobby Lee? I know, I, I, I remember.
1:12:15 Speaker 03 Um, it's horrible.
1:12:16 Bobby Lee? Yeah, so, the second thing is, um, you know how to add information. Um, you, you're good with silence. And, um, I think that you have the skill set to do it, because when I watched you do that podcast, a couple of podcasts, I'm like, oh, this guy, it's very interesting, you know, so, and you can be funny on these, it's tape recorded. You're just having conversations with people.
1:12:42 Speaker 02 Tape recorded.
1:12:45 Speaker 04 I like.
1:12:45 Speaker 02 Sorry, continue.
1:12:46 Bobby Lee? No, why'd you giggle like that?
1:12:48 Speaker 02 I just, I've never heard that even said, tape recorded.
1:12:52 Bobby Lee? Wha- what?
1:12:53 Speaker 03 That's, that's what a tape is, I'm showing him.
1:12:55 Speaker 02 Oh. I, I know what it is.
1:12:57 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:12:58 Speaker 02 Yeah, it's tape recorded.
1:13:00 Bobby Lee? It's, it's digitally recorded, you know what I mean?
1:13:02 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:13:02 Bobby Lee? Through a complex system.
1:13:04 Speaker 04 This is why I, I, I bought my son a real telephone, where he can actually do this.
1:13:10 Speaker 02 Oh, so that he knows it's like this?
1:13:12 Speaker 04 I make him say hello, hello, and he's learning this instead of this, because I'm afraid of tape recorded.
1:13:17 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah, but he's gonna be doing this.
1:13:20 Speaker 04 I don't care, he's gonna learn analog first.
1:13:22 Bobby Lee? Yeah, but that doesn't exist.
1:13:23 Speaker 04 It does.
1:13:24 Bobby Lee? It's like, it's teaching your son to do this.
1:13:26 Speaker 04 Nope, nope.
1:13:26 Bobby Lee? Which is like sword fighting.
1:13:27 Speaker 04 I think people are going back to analog.
1:13:29 Bobby Lee? What's the point?
1:13:30 Speaker 04 Nope.
1:13:30 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah.
1:13:31 Speaker 03 Isn't it funny now we're in a place where you want him to be doing this? Like, because kids aren't doing that anymore, do you know that? They're not, are you drinking off?
1:13:38 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:13:38 Speaker 02 Uh, I try to drink off as much as I can.
1:13:40 Speaker 03 Okay.
1:13:41 Bobby Lee? You do?
1:13:42 Speaker 02 Yeah, I just try to find, find time, you know, I have a busy schedule.
1:13:45 Speaker 03 Jesus.
1:13:46 Bobby Lee? Right. What do you mean, open mics or fucking busy?
1:13:49 Speaker 02 Yeah.
1:13:51 Speaker 03 Twenty-five year olds have said he's too busy to jerk off.
1:13:55 Bobby Lee? So, the rest of the three, I mean, um, twenty-three hours, you have no time?
1:14:00 Speaker 02 Yeah, I mean jerking off nowadays takes like, you know, five or six hours, really.
1:14:05 Speaker 03 What?
1:14:06 Speaker 02 That's, that's what everyone's doing, you know?
1:14:09 Bobby Lee? Oh, they edge it?
1:14:10 Speaker 02 Yeah, you gotta edge, you have to.
1:14:11 Speaker 03 You don't have to do that.
1:14:12 Bobby Lee? You don't have to do it.
1:14:13 Speaker 03 Everybody jumps off a cliff.
1:14:15 Bobby Lee? Yeah, you don't have to do that.
1:14:16 Speaker 03 You just jerk off in five minutes.
1:14:18 Speaker 04 Just edging is like, that's all the rage.
1:14:21 Speaker 02 Yeah, you know, that's what everybody's into these days, that's just, you know.
1:14:24 Speaker 04 But I think the, the, the health benefits come from actual.
1:14:28 Speaker 02 Oh, yeah, the palisades, that's what you have to do.
1:14:31 Bobby Lee? What? I understand that. I'm sure, cause I, I rarely masturbate.
1:14:38 Speaker 02 And I, that's great.
1:14:39 Bobby Lee? Okay, um, because I have a girlfriend now.
1:14:41 Speaker 02 Congrats.
1:14:42 Bobby Lee? So, um, the other day I, I had the, you know, the spirit. You know what I mean?
1:14:47 Speaker 03 You were moved by?
1:14:48 Bobby Lee? I was moved by something.
1:14:49 Speaker 02 As the devil. That's the devil on your shoulder.
1:14:51 Bobby Lee? Okay, anyway, I had the devil on my shoulder. Right, and I'm like, I'm gonna bang, I'm gonna bang one out quickly. You know what I mean? It took me about two minutes.
1:14:59 Speaker 04 Wow.
1:15:00 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:15:00 Bobby Lee? Yes, I, I think, uh, two to five minutes is probably the time.
1:15:04 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:15:04 Bobby Lee? You can do it. Yeah, how long does it take you?
1:15:07 Speaker 03 Yeah, we're on there.
1:15:07 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah, I think, I think, I think.
1:15:08 Speaker 03 Let's say five minutes.
1:15:09 Bobby Lee? Maybe it's our age and our demographic, I don't know.
1:15:12 Speaker 04 It's a generational.
1:15:14 Speaker 03 I know how to get me off.
1:15:17 Bobby Lee? I know you do, I know, yeah. I would do, do it through imagination?
1:15:21 Speaker 03 Uh, no.
1:15:22 Bobby Lee? Okay, okay, okay.
1:15:22 Speaker 03 Oh, come on, I was. Cave paintings?
1:15:29 Bobby Lee? Yeah, I wonder what cave, uh, like cavemen did?
1:15:32 Speaker 03 Yeah, do you think they were like, ahh?
1:15:34 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah.
1:15:35 Speaker 03 And then that guy next to him made the boobs bigger and he's like, oh my god.
1:15:39 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
1:15:40 Speaker 03 Squid over.
1:15:41 Bobby Lee? You know, you know, those books that you could tell a story? So you do a thousand of those, right?
1:15:45 Speaker 03 And you're just running and jerking off.
1:15:47 Bobby Lee? Running and jerking off.
1:15:52 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:15:52 Speaker 02 You think that's bad, though? You think it's bad? Are you saying it's better that kids are not jerking off? Or that they are? What was?
1:15:58 Speaker 03 I, I think they need to wanna get out of the house and have sex.
1:16:02 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
1:16:02 Speaker 02 Right, right, right.
1:16:03 Speaker 03 I think that's a good thing.
1:16:04 Bobby Lee? There's a, there's a male loneliness epidemic going on in their twenties.
1:16:08 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:16:09 Bobby Lee? And it's all, um, I mean, just go to Scott Galloway. He can explain.
1:16:13 Speaker 03 Uh, yeah, I love Scott.
1:16:14 Bobby Lee? I love Scott Galloway, too.
1:16:15 Speaker 03 And also, this whole thing of like, the amount of twenty five, like, young people thinking they need to be CEOs and like, uh, entrepreneurs and stuff.
1:16:27 Speaker 02 Yeah.
1:16:27 Speaker 03 It's disgusting.
1:16:28 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
1:16:28 Speaker 03 I hate it. What happened to just dorks, you know?
1:16:31 Bobby Lee? The dorks have been fucked.
1:16:33 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:16:34 Bobby Lee? Yeah, the dorks have been, because back in the day, dorks got laid.
1:16:38 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:16:39 Bobby Lee? If you look at photos of, I, I, I don't wanna start a fight with you, cuz I, I, I grew, I grew.
1:16:43 Speaker 04 It happened.
1:16:44 Bobby Lee? I don't wanna start, I don't wanna start a fight with you because I have fights with my little squabbles with my girlfriend about it.
1:16:50 Speaker 04 Okay.
1:16:50 Bobby Lee? Where I'm just telling her, right, that it's like, in the seventies, you could look at photos and you see a very attractive woman in a photo booth, like a JCPenney or a photo, you know, those photo booths? Like Amelie.
1:17:06 Speaker 04 Yeah, okay.
1:17:07 Bobby Lee? The Amelie type photo booth.
1:17:08 Speaker 03 Right.
1:17:09 Bobby Lee? Do you understand?
1:17:10 Speaker 03 Yes.
1:17:10 Bobby Lee? Yeah, okay.
1:17:12 Speaker 04 And then?
1:17:13 Bobby Lee? Right, and you'll see like, an attractive woman with a dude that like, could shoot up a school back, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, like, they were like, not that attractive, and they were like, they had a good factory job, they were nice to the woman, you know? And these factors no longer, you know, I mean, apply to modern dating and how, you know, that's all I'm saying.
1:17:35 Speaker 04 Hmm, I don't think that the onus is on the woman that you're.
1:17:38 Bobby Lee? See, that's exactly what I knew you were gonna say.
1:17:41 Speaker 04 Why is that?
1:17:41 Bobby Lee? And that's why I pre, did a pre, or, warning.
1:17:43 Speaker 04 Yeah, it's like, hey.
1:17:45 Bobby Lee? Ugly dudes.
1:17:46 Speaker 04 Get good, then.
1:17:47 Bobby Lee? No, no. How can an ugly dude get good?
1:17:50 Speaker 04 There's so many ways. I dated an ugly dude for a very long time.
1:17:56 Speaker 04 I wasn't talking about you.
1:17:58 Bobby Lee? I didn't mean all.
1:18:00 Speaker 04 They laughed, they, I, I wasn't talking about.
1:18:03 Speaker 02 Yeah, it was definitely mad in Paul's face.
1:18:04 Speaker 04 I've had.
1:18:08 Speaker 04 My
1:18:09 Bobby Lee? I know what you meant.
1:18:09 Speaker 04 I think, no, but I wasn't even talking about it.
1:18:12 Bobby Lee? I am ugly.
1:18:13 Speaker 04 No, I wasn't talking about you.
1:18:14 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm pretty ugly.
1:18:14 Speaker 04 If you look at my history of people that I've dated, yeah, it's like from here to there, but it's like
1:18:19 Bobby Lee? That's you and you're a different generation.
1:18:20 Speaker 04 But no, it's not, it's not a different generation. I truly think that
1:18:23 Bobby Lee? That's you.
1:18:24 Speaker 04 I think that men really need to understand that if you make a woman feel safe, if you're kind, if you can actually offset the fact that at some point she's gonna have children and have some difficulty with her body, with her state of mind, if you just get good, I promise you, we're available.
1:18:44 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:18:44 Speaker 04 It's like, it's not, it's, that's, I'll stop there.
1:18:48 Speaker 03 In my ugliest times, you know, I'm, I, I am the best looking I've ever been right now, for me.
1:18:54 Bobby Lee? I believe that.
1:18:55 Speaker 03 Thank you.
1:18:55 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
1:18:56 Speaker 03 But I was very ugly and I did quite well with women.
1:18:58 Bobby Lee? I believe that too.
1:18:59 Speaker 03 For a very long time.
1:18:59 Bobby Lee? Yep.
1:19:00 Speaker 03 And it was just because I had the confidence to talk to them and like, not
1:19:04 Bobby Lee? Yeah, but, yeah, but
1:19:05 Speaker 04 Not be shitty.
1:19:06 Bobby Lee? Okay.
1:19:06 Speaker 03 And usually pick up women who had only been dating hot guys and they're like, I can't do that anymore because those guys are awful.
1:19:12 Bobby Lee? Yeah, there he is, there he is.
1:19:13 Speaker 03 See?
1:19:13 Speaker 02 Pretty eclectic.
1:19:14 Speaker 03 Everything was vaguely lesbian.
1:19:17 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
1:19:19 Speaker 04 So cute.
1:19:20 Speaker 02 Looks like the general manager at Lowe's.
1:19:21 Speaker 03 Yeah, yeah.
1:19:22 Bobby Lee? Did you play, um?
1:19:24 Speaker 03 Kim.
1:19:30 Bobby Lee? You play lacrosse or something? I mean, that, that is crazy.
1:19:33 Speaker 03 I don't know, it's just 90s.
1:19:34 Bobby Lee? That shirt is cool. What, what kind of shirt is that?
1:19:37 Speaker 03 My aunt worked at Nordstrom.
1:19:38 Speaker 02 Is this 20s?
1:19:39 Speaker 04 Oh, you have good hair.
1:19:40 Speaker 03 Yeah, that was my, uh, that was my, one of my first headshots.
1:19:43 Bobby Lee? That's cool.
1:19:43 Speaker 04 That's incredible.
1:19:44 Bobby Lee? This is the emergence of who you are.
1:19:46 Speaker 03 That's when I booked like 12 commercials in a year.
1:19:49 Bobby Lee? Gee, that's another thing.
1:19:50 Speaker 03 It's gone.
1:19:51 Bobby Lee? What year, I know, it's gone. What year was that?
1:19:54 Speaker 03 That would have been like 2003?
1:19:57 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah, like in the 90s? Oh my, Luke, you miss the days.
1:20:02 Speaker 02 I know, that's what everyone tells me. All I hear is that I completely missed the boat. People are still trying to do it. Do you do self-tape? Like, I've never gone in person for an audition before.
1:20:10 Speaker 03 Oh yeah, I only do self-tapes. I, I, yeah, I, I did a Gosh, I, I, yeah, I can't think of the last like in-person audition I had.
1:20:20 Speaker 00 Wow, that's crazy.
1:20:22 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:20:22 Speaker 00 Cause people, I always hear people tell stories about like horrible audition things.
1:20:26 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:20:26 Speaker 00 I'm always jealous of that though. Yeah, that's real.
1:20:28 Bobby Lee? You, you bombed though.
1:20:30 Speaker 03 Oh, yeah.
1:20:30 Bobby Lee? Oh, yeah.
1:20:31 Speaker 03 I had this one where the character's supposed to be autistic.
1:20:34 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
1:20:35 Speaker 03 And, and it was like,
1:20:40 Speaker 03 it was.
1:20:40 Bobby Lee? I love it.
1:20:41 Speaker 03 It was in Santa Monica in one of those like production companies. So it was like, next step, I'm at producers, right? The room is filled with people, but it was in a room that you could hear outside of that room. And in the hallway are like 10 guys. We all vaguely look the same in, in slightly different ways. And, uh, I could hear the guy before me.
1:21:03 Bobby Lee? Crush.
1:21:04 Speaker 03 Yeah, he did fine.
1:21:05 Bobby Lee? Okay.
1:21:06 Speaker 03 But it wasn't a, it wasn't a comedy thing. It was like slightly, um, it was a drama.
1:21:11 Bobby Lee? I, I didn't say what crush, meaning, you know, it was a comedy thing. He, he was doing good.
1:21:16 Speaker 03 Yeah, he was doing well.
1:21:17 Bobby Lee? Okay.
1:21:18 Speaker 03 I think, but how do you know a drama? They're not applauding. They're just quiet, right?
1:21:22 Bobby Lee? Yeah, but you could hear him talk.
1:21:23 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:21:24 Bobby Lee? And make choices.
1:21:25 Speaker 00 He sounded really autistic.
1:21:26 Speaker 03 He sounded fine, right?
1:21:27 Speaker 00 Yeah.
1:21:28 Speaker 03 So I was like, hmm. So I get in there and I go, hey, uh, it's the castor. How autistic? Like how farting?
1:21:37 Speaker 03 Oh, you should really go for it. Just really go for it.
1:21:41 Bobby Lee? Oh, my God.
1:21:42 Speaker 03 And it wasn't autistic. Like it was like, I played like, I don't think the better word. I played it very retarded.
1:21:49 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:21:50 Speaker 03 Like very offensive.
1:21:52 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah.
1:21:52 Speaker 03 But not, but like dramatic. Like I was like Leonardo DiCaprio.
1:21:56 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah.
1:21:57 Speaker 03 And what's he doing Gilbert?
1:21:58 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:21:59 Speaker 03 Yeah, like really going.
1:22:01 Bobby Lee? You can't do that tree.
1:22:03 Speaker 03 Yeah, better than that. I was better.
1:22:08 Speaker 03 And I, uh, came out of the room and I'm talking and I was, and they were quiet. I come out of the room and I'm talking to a friend in the hallway. And I just hear, well, that was offensive.
1:22:20 Bobby Lee? Oh.
1:22:22 Speaker 03 I went for it and I missed.
1:22:24 Bobby Lee? Oh.
1:22:26 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:22:26 Bobby Lee? My god.
1:22:27 Speaker 03 And I don't think I saw that casting director much.
1:22:30 Bobby Lee? Yeah, did you ever, did you ever like freeze or no?
1:22:34 Speaker 03 No, I'm more comfortable on stage or in like a stressful situation like that than I am anywhere else.
1:22:41 Bobby Lee? Wow.
1:22:42 Speaker 03 You put me in front of 5,000 people, I'm better there than I am one on one.
1:22:45 Bobby Lee? I used to freeze.
1:22:47 Speaker 03 I never.
1:22:47 Bobby Lee? You never froze?
1:22:48 Speaker 03 No.
1:22:49 Bobby Lee? Oh, okay.
1:22:49 Speaker 03 No, my wife actually asked me, my wife's an actress, very accomplished in her own right. She's like, do you ever have that dream where you don't know your lines? I was like, I've never had that dream. Where I don't know my lines or I don't feel prepared or I'm scared. I've never had that dream as an actor.
1:23:07 Bobby Lee? So you've never been nervous tonight before?
1:23:10 Speaker 03 I've been nervous, but like it's like, I like, I'm more just anxious I want to do it.
1:23:15 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
1:23:16 Speaker 03 I'm not like, oh no, what if something's bad?
1:23:17 Bobby Lee? You know your lines already.
1:23:19 Speaker 03 Yeah, and even if I don't, I'm fine.
1:23:21 Bobby Lee? Wow, I'm getting to that point now too.
1:23:24 Speaker 03 Even if I don't know the lines, I'll just like, I'll get through it.
1:23:26 Bobby Lee? Oh, the kind of projects I do, it doesn't even matter, you know what I mean?
1:23:30 Speaker 02 Yeah, you saying you're not even reading the script.
1:23:33 Bobby Lee? No, what I'll do now is I'll be in makeup and read it for the first time.
1:23:36 Speaker 02 Oh my god.
1:23:38 Bobby Lee? Yeah, and I'll go, oh.
1:23:42 Speaker 03 No.
1:23:42 Bobby Lee? I don't think I can do this.
1:23:44 Speaker 03 Bobby, I, I, I've done that.
1:23:46 Bobby Lee? What do you mean?
1:23:47 Speaker 03 What you've done.
1:23:47 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
1:23:48 Speaker 03 I've done that same thing.
1:23:49 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
1:23:49 Speaker 03 Because we're similar in the way of our ADD is so strong.
1:23:52 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
1:23:53 Speaker 03 That it's, you can only deal with the thing you're doing that day.
1:23:55 Bobby Lee? Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:23:57 Speaker 03 I can't deal with it three days.
1:23:58 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah.
1:23:59 Speaker 03 Five days out.
1:24:00 Bobby Lee? Exactly.
1:24:00 Speaker 03 It's, I, I crammed, I would get As on tests, but I'd never do my homework.
1:24:05 Bobby Lee? Yep, so I, I strongly would watch a podcast and even I'll Blow You For A Guest Spot, that, that funny thing that you said, you know, is a really good title. I think it'd be fun to watch you talk to other actors about how it's changed and complain.
1:24:25 Speaker 03 Well, cause.
1:24:25 Bobby Lee? I love complaining.
1:24:26 Speaker 03 And you know what it is, is, is the perception of like what you said, like my perception of what somebody else is doing is always they're doing so great.
1:24:34 Bobby Lee? Hmm.
1:24:34 Speaker 03 They're doing so great and you're like, how much is their podcast making? What the fuck? Why am I not doing that? Uh, oh, because I, I don't have the confidence of that I, that.
1:24:47 Speaker 03 They had people would watch, right? Or listen?
1:24:49 Bobby Lee? They're not in the beginning.
1:24:50 Speaker 03 Right. And you just have to do it for a couple of years and build your audience.
1:24:54 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
1:24:54 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:24:54 Bobby Lee? They're not gonna, it's not a lot of work. It's once a week.
1:24:57 Speaker 03 Right.
1:24:57 Bobby Lee? For one hour.
1:24:59 Speaker 03 Yeah, you only do this once a week?
1:25:00 Bobby Lee? Yeah, sometimes twice a week, but this, this week, how many are we doing? Just this one? Just this one, this week?
1:25:05 Speaker 03 Wow.
1:25:05 Bobby Lee? I'm doing one tonight with my other one and then the week's pretty much over. I go to New York to promote something else, but um, Saturday, but my week's open. So my point is, is um, it's an easy job. It's fun to do. And then once you build an audience, it's, you know, it's, it's pretty much good. I, I, I don't know if I'm gonna grow any higher than I've already grown.
1:25:28 Speaker 03 Right.
1:25:29 Bobby Lee? I think I'm pretty much at the level, maybe.
1:25:32 Speaker 03 Do you find podcasts dipping?
1:25:34 Bobby Lee? It is.
1:25:34 Speaker 03 In general?
1:25:35 Bobby Lee? Yeah, cause so, here's, here's, here's my complaint! You wanna hear my complaint? All right, it's the reason why I, we, Andrew and I, we all did it in the first place is because Hollywood was like, no more!
1:25:52 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:25:52 Bobby Lee? Right? So then I was like, what do I do? So I did this 10, 12, well, how many, how many years has Tiger Billy been around? Almost 11.
1:26:01 Speaker 04 11.
1:26:01 Bobby Lee? 11 years, we've been doing this. 11 years.
1:26:05 Speaker 03 Right.
1:26:05 Bobby Lee? And then all of a sudden, you see Hollywood stars doing it. You know what I mean? Guys that don't need to, would you need?
1:26:15 Bobby Lee? You, you're already in! You did it already!
1:26:19 Speaker 04 Stay in your lane.
1:26:20 Bobby Lee? Yeah, stay in your lane, you did it!
1:26:22 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:26:23 Bobby Lee? You know, you're in top series and killing it, and then you're doing this side hustle?
1:26:29 Speaker 04 For a while, it felt like we were, the podcasters were just like the outcasts.
1:26:34 Speaker 03 Of course.
1:26:34 Speaker 04 Or the underdogs. It like felt that was the vibe in the beginning, which is why.
1:26:37 Speaker 03 But that was the vibe of, uh, someone watching them and listening to them. I used to listen to a ton of podcasts.
1:26:43 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
1:26:44 Speaker 03 I, there's a bunch of people that are friends of yours. I used to listen to their podcasts and I don't anymore.
1:26:48 Bobby Lee? Why?
1:26:49 Speaker 03 Cause I'm sick of listening to them talk about watches and shit and how, complaining about how fucking rich they are.
1:26:54 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:26:55 Speaker 03 It's like, Jesus Christ, guys, do you remember who, why we started listening to you?
1:26:58 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
1:26:59 Speaker 03 You went way far away from that.
1:27:00 Bobby Lee? Yeah. I'm very frugal.
1:27:04 Bobby Lee? Okay.
1:27:04 Speaker 03 Cheap.
1:27:05 Bobby Lee? I'm cheap. No, I mean, I, I spend my money with my girlfriend, like, we'll go, you wanna go to a nice restaurant tonight?
1:27:13 Speaker 03 Great.
1:27:13 Bobby Lee? That I can afford.
1:27:14 Speaker 04 Yeah, he's extremely generous.
1:27:15 Bobby Lee? Yeah, that, um, but it's like, I don't like, I know some, like, the watches, you know what I mean? I know that a couple of these podcasts will compare, like, where'd you get that?
1:27:26 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:27:26 Bobby Lee? Oh, this is a four hundred thousand, you know what I mean? I'm like, what are you doing?
1:27:31 Speaker 04 Is that an investment, though, at that point?
1:27:33 Speaker 03 No.
1:27:33 Bobby Lee? No, yeah, they think it's an investment.
1:27:35 Speaker 04 It's like an art piece.
1:27:36 Bobby Lee? They think it's an art piece, yeah.
1:27:37 Speaker 03 The, the, the, the, the, art piece?
1:27:40 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:27:41 Speaker 03 Fuck, are we the Medici?
1:27:44 Bobby Lee? The Medici.
1:27:46 Speaker 03 Like, that's insane.
1:27:47 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah, yeah, or like, look.
1:27:49 Speaker 03 You're telling dick jokes on stage, put money away and get some interest.
1:27:52 Bobby Lee? Yeah, I, I got a titanium, you know what I mean, putter for, you know, from, from Kakachushi.
1:27:59 Speaker 03 No, that is a flex, right?
1:28:01 Bobby Lee? It's a flex.
1:28:01 Speaker 03 I understand the flex, I get it.
1:28:03 Bobby Lee? I don't get it.
1:28:03 Speaker 03 Um, this is fake gold, right?
1:28:05 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah, I like it. I like fake gold.
1:28:07 Speaker 03 Yeah, but like, I don't,
1:28:10 Speaker 03 I, I, I, it loses me as an audience.
1:28:12 Speaker 04 Yeah, no, I agree, yeah.
1:28:13 Bobby Lee? Yeah, I get it.
1:28:13 Speaker 03 When I'm driving in my car and I'm worried about paying for something, I have a cousin, uh, or cousin-in-law, who is, um, Filipino who lives in Winne- Winnipeg, and they fucking love Bobby, right?
1:28:26 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:28:27 Speaker 03 A bunch of weird Filipinos in Winnipeg.
1:28:29 Speaker 04 Filipinos, number one, Bobby Lee.
1:28:30 Speaker 03 Love Bobby Lee, right? They, that, like,
1:28:35 Speaker 03 you starting a podcast, cause you're the weird guy from Mad TV, that worked, right?
1:28:39 Bobby Lee? No, what's the weird guy?
1:28:41 Speaker 03 You're the weird guy from Mad TV?
1:28:43 Speaker 00 You're the straight man.
1:28:44 Speaker 03 Okay, the guy that we put in a green screen suit to look like he's jacking off dragons?
1:28:49 Speaker 03 That's Bobby Lee.
1:28:50 Speaker 00 The straight man.
1:28:50 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:28:53 Bobby Lee? You're right, I did do that.
1:28:54 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:28:55 Bobby Lee? Yeah, well, um, uh, you know, I feel like, you know, I love my fans, and when I see the audience, I, it reminds me of who I am.
1:29:04 Speaker 03 Yes.
1:29:05 Bobby Lee? Yeah, and they're all like me.
1:29:07 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:29:07 Bobby Lee? You know what I mean? They're just like, you know, particular, you know, and I, and, and I worship, I love that. I'm the Pied Piper of them, you know, and it's like, you know, you have an audience out there too.
1:29:20 Speaker 03 I do.
1:29:20 Bobby Lee? And so I think that, um,
1:29:22 Speaker 03 And, and I will say, I get very frustrated. With myself that I don't.
1:29:27 Bobby Lee? You're gonna, you're gonna, you're gonna do it. I'm gonna force you to do it.
1:29:31 Speaker 03 Cause I, I, like, there are guys out there that you, and I know this bothers you, where you're like, really? That guy's a bigger name than, than me?
1:29:37 Bobby Lee? Yeah.
1:29:38 Speaker 03 You're like, I, everywhere you go in the world, someone's gonna know who you are.
1:29:43 Bobby Lee? Who, me?
1:29:44 Speaker 03 Yes. When you walk down the street, someone's gonna recognize you. It just happens. I get recognized every single day.
1:29:49 Bobby Lee? I know you do.
1:29:50 Speaker 03 It just is how I am. And guys that, that never happens to are considered a bigger name than me.
1:29:56 Bobby Lee? I know.
1:29:57 Speaker 03 And I don't.
1:29:57 Bobby Lee? It's so frustrating.
1:29:58 Speaker 03 Know how to make that money.
1:30:00 Bobby Lee? Yeah. Well, we're gonna teach you.
1:30:02 Speaker 03 Sure.
1:30:03 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're gonna teach you how to do it.
1:30:05 Speaker 03 So you're producing my podcast?
1:30:07 Bobby Lee? I'm thinking about it.
1:30:07 Speaker 03 Okay, alright.
1:30:08 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I'm, I'm literally thinking about it. Um, I, I wanna give it a go.
1:30:12 Speaker 03 I'll give you all the money you want.
1:30:14 Bobby Lee? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, we'll, we'll do a fair deal. But anyway, um, I just, I wanna do a down note. You know what I mean? Um, are you plugging anything, by the way?
1:30:24 Speaker 03 No.
1:30:24 Bobby Lee? Okay.
1:30:26 Speaker 04 That wasn't down there.
1:30:27 Bobby Lee? Yeah, what? Check out his Instagram. Yeah. Follow. Follow his Instagram?
1:30:31 Speaker 02 You're about to have a hundred K.
1:30:33 Speaker 03 Yeah, it keeps, uh, the bots keep going in and out of a hundred K, you know?
1:30:38 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah.
1:30:38 Speaker 04 They did that one big cleanup.
1:30:40 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:30:41 Bobby Lee? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So get into, get into Matt here and then, um, I just download, rest in peace, Oliver Cherie. Um, yesterday was the roughest, I'm sorry. What?
1:30:56 Speaker 04 No, it's.
1:30:56 Bobby Lee? It was the roughest day yesterday.
1:30:58 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:30:59 Bobby Lee? I was supposed to do a bunch of shit, I cancelled everything and, um, I don't know, I, um, I'm still processing it, but, um, I love you and, uh, I miss you and what a talent. And what an oddball. And I think that's the thing that I relate to most about him is, um, him and I were the same kind of people, you know? Um, but anyway, it's a comedy podcast and, um, it was a rough day yesterday and rest in peace, brother.
1:31:38 Bobby Lee? Give Matt Jones a round of applause.
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