#691 - Johnny Hamcheck

Johnny Hamcheck is a content creator and prankster known for his viral man-on-the-street videos. Johnny joins Theo to talk about why he’s finally revealing his identity, the perils of pranking too hard, and how his journey with addiction shaped the legacy of Hamcheck. Johnny Hamcheck: https://www.instagram.com/johnnyhamcheck/?hl=en ------------------------------------------------- Tour Dates! https://theovon.com/tour New Merch: https://www.theovonstore.com ------------------------------------------------- Sponsored By: Celsius: Go to the Celsius Amazon store to check out all of their flavors. #CELSIUSBrandPartner @CelsiusOfficial https://amzn.to/3HbAtPJ Blue Chew: Discover your options at http://BlueChew.com! Buy two months and get the third for FREE with promo code THEO. Better Help: This show is sponsored by BetterHelp. Sign up and get 10% off BetterHelp at http://BetterHelp.com/Theo Acorns: Head to http://acorns.com/investinall and give your money the best chance at growth! Shopify: Take control of your income. Start your free trial at http://shopify.com/theo ------------------------------------------------- Music: “Shine” by Bishop Gunn Bishop Gunn - Shine ------------------------------------------------ Submit your funny videos, TikToks, questions and topics you'd like to hear on the podcast to: [email protected] Hit the Hotline: 985-664-9503 Video Hotline for Theo Upload here: https://www.theovon.com/fan-upload Mail stuff to: ATTN: TPW PO BOX 40137 Nashville TN 37204 ------------------------------------------------ Find Theo: Website: https://theovon.com Instagram: https://instagram.com/theovon Facebook: https://facebook.com/theovon Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/thispastweekend X: https://twitter.com/theovon YouTube: https://youtube.com/theovon Clips Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/TheoVonClips Shorts Channel: https://bit.ly/3ClUj8z ------------------------------------------------ Producer: Zach https://www.instagram.com/zachdpowers Producer: Trevyn https://www.instagram.com/trevyn.s/ Producer: Nick https://www.instagram.com/realnickdavis/ Producer: Andrew https://www.instagram.com/bleachmediaofficial/ Producer: Halston https://www.instagram.com/halstonrays/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

• 0:02Speaker 00

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• 0:25Speaker 01

  I want to let you guys know that my new special, I'm Doing Fine, is out now on Netflix. And thank you all for the support. He's got those six inch chains and those seven and a half foot egg rolls. He's a prankster. He's a content creator. He's, this guy's one of a kind and he's revealing himself for the first time today. I'm fortunate to sit down with Johnny Hamcheck.

• 1:11Speaker 02

  Am I acting alright?

• 1:13Speaker 01

  That's a good question.

• 1:16Speaker 02

  Dude, you gotta tell me, man. This I don't do podcast, bro, but I'm comfortable, but you know.

• 1:22Speaker 01

  Dude, one thing I would ask my friends all the time, I'd be like, dude, do I seem alright? Like, I never had any idea if I seem alright or not. Like, my best friend Scott Herman one time told him, like, dude, tell me who I am, you know? And for most of my life, I've just been...

• 1:37Speaker 02

  Oh, 100%. I don't know who I am. I, I, I look at myself from an outside body all the time. I wonder what the hell is, who would you think you are? Who are you? There's, it's a good question. I don't think any of us know. I mean...

• 1:52Speaker 01

  Maybe that's true.

• 1:54Speaker 02

  Dude, life is weird, bro. Like, everyone's is weird, though, you know? We're all down here trying to figure it out. It's a messed up game, you know?

• 2:02Speaker 01

  Yeah, and a lot of, and some of us are kind of being a little bit perverts, too.

• 2:06Speaker 02

  There's a lot of pecker checkers out there, bro. I mean, I told you...

• 2:11Speaker 01

  Dude, who runs this shit?

• 2:12Speaker 02

  Dude, I don't know, but...

• 2:14Speaker 01

  It's something else, man. Uh, Johnny Hamcheck, one of the premier pranksters, I would say, right now, probably. Maybe in the world, dude. That's, I feel like, you know, you came on my radar, just like, probably as a lot of people, just like, through social media, just seeing your pranks. Um, and today's the first day that you're kind of showing, showing yourself, like...

• 2:36Speaker 02

  This is it. This is the reveal that I've been holding off on doing for five years, you know? It's been a game of cat and mouse with the internet. And to be honest, it feels great. It just feels good to let, let them, let them have it. This is it. This is it. And I'm, you know, it feels good. It's like I had something in my stomach I needed to throw up for so long, man. And I can't explain how happy I am about doing this reveal, actually. And saying what's up to all the people and thanking them for all the love. And it's been a fun journey, but it's time to move on to the next stage of my life, you know? And I don't know what that's gonna be, but I'm done hiding from the public, you know? It caused so much stress, dude.

• 3:19Speaker 01

  Does it really?

• 3:20Speaker 02

  Yeah. Just acting funny about, oh, you can't take a picture, you can't send it to your friends, like... And it was only for the fans. I only did it for the fans, because they love, then a lot of them are gonna be upset, you know?

• 3:34Speaker 01

  That you're revealing yourself?

• 3:35Speaker 02

  Yeah, oh, yeah, yeah. And...

• 3:37Speaker 01

  Because you have, you have millions and millions of views on your pranks, but you've never shown who you are?

• 3:42Speaker 02

  No. In the very early days, in my first TikToks, I, I, I did, I had TikToks with myself. I did this alibi prank and I'd go to Walmart and say, hey, will you do a video with me? And I showed myself early on and then when I saw that the people on the internet were saying, I love that he doesn't show himself. And then I jumped on board and just made it POV with never showing myself. And it's been like a really, it's been a fun game. It's been, I mean, fun for them, but, because everybody comes up with their own image of what they think I look like, you know? Let me ask you, did you know what I looked like?

• 4:19Speaker 01

  Didn't have a clue.

• 4:19Speaker 02

  No way.

• 4:20Speaker 01

  Yeah, didn't have a clue, man. And I was curious, and it is this thing, it's like, yeah, it adds to a level of mystery you don't even know. As the viewer, you just don't even think about it. You're like, oh, this is this voice. But yeah, I don't know who it is. And I think, I'm probably an average viewer. I don't go back and, you know, I didn't go back and research the first one if there was a reveal. I just always assumed that there wasn't. Um, what's some of the stress that we don't see about hiding your identity?

• 4:47Speaker 02

  Um, the, the fans are always zooming in on reflections, you know? When I shoot videos when somebody has glasses on, and they think I don't know, but I know exactly what I'm giving them. I like to give them little glimpses, you know? And it's, like I said, it's gotten annoying for me to try to keep playing that game. Um, but I do, I did it to, for the fans' sake. Um, I didn't really do it for myself. I was tired of this game years ago, you know, but...

• 5:19Speaker 01

  Not of the pranking, but of the hiding?

• 5:20Speaker 02

  The lore, the, the hiding. Yeah, the hiding. I mean, pranking, I mean, I'm a little burnt out on the pranking. I'm not gonna lie. I mean, you, I'm 50 years old, you can't street prank and just, it's like, come on, man, it's time to do something different, you know? And I don't, I don't care what it is, but anyway, I'm talking too much.

• 5:39Speaker 01

  Um, no, well, we, we want to hear you talk. Um, and, and I do want to show people at home and just so some people may be hearing your voice and they may not be exactly familiar. But Trevon, let's play one of, just play 20 seconds of, of Johnny Hamcheck.

• 5:54Speaker 02

  Hey, sorry I'm late, buddy.

• 5:56Speaker 03

  What?

• 5:56Speaker 02

  I said, sorry I'm late.

• 5:58Speaker 03

  Oh, you're good.

• 5:59Speaker 02

  Yeah, did they tell you I was coming?

• 6:00Speaker 03

  Who are you?

• 6:01Speaker 02

  I'm Johnny, project manager.

• 6:03Speaker 03

  Oh, I know.

• 6:04Speaker 02

  Okay, yeah, Balboni told me to bring those chains to you guys. What the hell do you do here?

• 6:09Speaker 03

  I flag.

• 6:10Speaker 02

  I know, you're doing a good job, too.

• 6:11Speaker 03

  Well, thank you.

• 6:12Speaker 02

  Yeah. They told me about you. I'm off today, but, uh, did my girl bring the Chick-fil-A by?

• 6:18Speaker 03

  The Chick-fil-A? No, I don't believe so.

• 6:20Speaker 02

  She was supposed to bring some chicken sandwiches for everybody this morning for breakfast.

• 6:25Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 6:25Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 6:27Speaker 01

  Dude, you must be, so many of years that I, that I've watched are ones you pull up on construction sites. You must be known at every construction site now.

• 6:37Speaker 02

  Yes, yes. Just in North Carolina the other day, a young kid jumped out of the Bobcat. I saw his eyes instantly. I see them before they see me. They'd have a voice recognition. It's the craziest thing. It's like a blind guy that has super senses with his, um, ears. Because they don't know what I look like, they match, they match the voice up. I'll be walking in Vegas, I'll be in Beverly Hills. I can't, if I talk and people walk by me, they'll start, uh...

• 7:08Speaker 01

  Getting curious?

• 7:09Speaker 02

  Yeah, and when I tell them, no, I'm not Johnny, they're like, yeah, you are. Yeah, you are. That's a fun, that's a funny thing, man. So, I found that interesting about humans.

• 7:19Speaker 01

  Is it hard to find a, like, a construction site to work these days? Or like, are you moving area to area? What do you, what's that like?

• 7:25Speaker 02

  No, it's all about the individual. I'll pick out a guy that looks like he might not watch social media. Just, it's all about the goofy characters for me. Everything is about what they give me. It's like, it's not me most of the time, obviously. It's just these people. But when I leave Ohio, I feel free because Ohio, nine times out of 10, I don't even, I walk up insecure because I know they're gonna bust me. So I'm like, I'm ready for them to catch me. Those videos do really well because my fans love seeing people recognizing me. So in Columbus, it's still cool to do those, but I don't mess with even any pranks, really, in Columbus is getting old.

• 8:06Speaker 02

  But I can still find tons of construction sites. And I've gotten lazy over the last few years where I pull up in the car. I used to walk, you know, all I gotta do is get out, put a vest on and, you know...

• 8:21Speaker 01

  So you used to look more the part?

• 8:23Speaker 02

  Yeah, in the early days, though, I walked up in shorts, no hat. Now I, dude, I pull up with the construction, the hard hat on in my car, which is the funniest thing. Because it's like the stupidest thing ever. But when I first started pranking, I had a very nice car. I was, you know, I had, you know, I had a good job and...

• 8:44Speaker 01

  What, did you have like a Chevelle or some Dodge Neon?

• 8:46Speaker 02

  Dude, I had a, I had a $100,000 Lexus when I first started doing these pranks and it was a big black, so they bought it. And then I went broke and went kind of homeless and then I was driving around these $500 cars. So it was really a funny transition.

• 9:02Speaker 01

  But did the Lexus help the pranks?

• 9:04Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, because they're like, oh, this is definitely a boss, you know?

• 9:07Speaker 01

  Oh, this is Balboni?

• 9:08Speaker 02

  Yeah, this is definitely the boss. He runs stuff. He's, you know, and, but it still worked in a fucking G6 that I, I ended up... A friend gave me a G6, man, with the duct tape holding up the panel. There was a bungee cord holding up the panels. But when I put that hat on, man, it was the funniest thing, pulling up, like, somebody's gonna drive around with a hard hat on in the car, you know?

• 9:33Speaker 01

  So originally, you would, you would get out and walk up? Was that, did that create a different energy?

• 9:37Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's a whole different one. It takes more energy, basically, yeah.

• 9:41Speaker 01

  So you got lazy, now you just kind of pull it up in your whip?

• 9:43Speaker 02

  The window ones, when they come to the window, it's like they're on TV. It's perfect. So those work too, but I, I used to just walk, man, miles, dude. Like, if you, Columbus, Ohio, I would walk from one end of town, I mean, I was putting 20, 25,000 steps a day before I went to work.

• 10:02Speaker 01

  You putting those miles on your...

• 10:03Speaker 02

  On my feet, yeah. On my dogs, man. And, uh, that was when I had a job. I'd go into work at 1:00. I'd make six, in the early days, man, it was like six videos a day. I, I mean, I could make them all day long if I want. I mean, it's... But it gets old and you know, gotta do something different, but.

• 10:22Speaker 01

  I don't think it gets old for us, but it probably starts to turn into a lot more of a job than it does. Like something that's entertaining for you.

• 10:29Speaker 02

  I call it feeding the fish. Feeding the internet and feeling that pressure to keep giving them something and the. They get so upset when I don't post for a while and it's like, uh. Yeah, it's an addiction and you know. You know that I have addictive tendencies and I I hate the addiction to feeding. The fans, these videos, and then if I don't have a viral video or something, man, I get like, I get withdrawal. I get sick, you know?

• 10:56Speaker 01

  You start to feel bad about yourself even?

• 10:58Speaker 02

  It's a, it's literally a dopamine addiction. Like when I, if I don't have a fresh killer video that's going viral. Then I I feel I start to get sick and after a couple of weeks I get sick, man, and I have like this. I gotta go get some. I gotta go get, I gotta go get a video.

• 11:15Speaker 01

  And they don't make like a Suboxone for pranksters?

• 11:17Speaker 02

  No, if they did, I would take it right now. I'd get, I'd get off, I'd get off the pranks right away. Go to rehab.

• 11:24Speaker 01

  Yeah, get on that methadone, homie.

• 11:27Speaker 02

  Oh my gosh, Suboxone, speaking of that, I mean, we'll talk about that later, but that is the hardest drug to ever get off of. I had to kick that in February twenty five and it's the worst. I mean, it was harder than getting off. The hard, the fentanyl. It was harder than getting off fentanyl.

• 11:44Speaker 01

  Yeah, before you go down that route, I I know that, uh, cause we've talked a little bit about addiction, right? We're both in recovery.

• 11:49Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 11:50Speaker 01

  So amen to that.

• 11:51Speaker 02

  Bro, amen. Good job.

• 11:53Speaker 01

  Amen, good job.

• 11:54Speaker 02

  I'm, I'm very happy for you and anybody that's actually taken that path, cause.

• 11:59Speaker 01

  The toughest knuckles in the world, bro.

• 12:01Speaker 02

  You need them in that game, cause it's an internal battle, bro. Nobody's gonna do it for you, you know? It's the biggest war of a human's life, man.

• 12:12Speaker 01

  Amen.

• 12:12Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah.

• 12:13Speaker 01

  Amen, bro.

• 12:14Speaker 02

  Yeah, so.

• 12:15Speaker 01

  Um, let's start from the beginning in your life, bro, cause you've had some, I mean, you were a used car salesman, you were in a band, you. Dealt with heroin addiction, you've been to prison, dude, you've.

• 12:24Speaker 02

  Not prison, but the county jail for like six months, so I've been to jail many times, but I have never gotten a number is what they say.

• 12:33Speaker 01

  Oh shit, no way.

• 12:34Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 12:35Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 12:35Speaker 02

  But they want, they said prison was way better than the county jail I was in. It's called the workhouse in Columbus, Ohio. It's the worst place that. It's the worst.

• 12:45Speaker 01

  You didn't like it? Does it even have stars on like Google review or whatever?

• 12:50Speaker 02

  Would you like it? Fifty gang bangers and not just ga, just every type of criminal. And there's one bathroom behind the brick wall, you know, that everyone gets to use and everyone's fighting every day. I mean, I fought a couple of times. They're picking up people on mattresses while they're sleeping and launching them across the room to the weaker people. It was so. But I found, I mean, dude, you find God when you're in those places. Like I was part of this Bible study and we got up every morning and read the Bible and like. But man, when you don't know when you're getting out and you, if you've never had your freedom taken away, you need to, to appreciate life.

• 13:29Speaker 02

  I always say that sometimes I get so comfortable out here. I'm like, man, I need to go lock myself up just to remember that feeling of getting out, man.

• 13:38Speaker 01

  Wow, of just the gratitude of being free.

• 13:40Speaker 02

  Bro, yeah.

• 13:42Speaker 01

  A free-ish.

• 13:42Speaker 02

  Freedom is something that we all take for granted, man. It's cheese.

• 13:48Speaker 01

  Do you ever, did you ever celebrate a, like a holiday in prison? Sorry, in jail?

• 13:53Speaker 02

  No, but I just celebrated my. Birth, last year down in Florida, I was in long-term treatment. I was down there for two months. And um, I celebrated my forty ninth birthday down there. But when the whole rehab facility found out. Who I was, it really helped, man. I had all these fans in rehab with me and they were just going crazy and it was like. I was happy to, to make it fun for them, you know?

• 14:22Speaker 01

  Dude, if somebody's ham checking into rehab, dude.

• 14:24Speaker 02

  Dude, in long-term treatment where we're all just trying to get by for long, uh, two months, you know, but.

• 14:31Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 14:32Speaker 02

  That was, that was the last time I was on hard drugs. I got clean in February twenty five, thank God, but.

• 14:40Speaker 02

  Now, what was your question about jail? I forget. Oh, holidays in jail. I mean, I'm. No, but my, my ex-wife was, um, had her, you know, I was in there. And she had a little baby, you know, she had my son and, and it was stressful.

• 14:57Speaker 01

  Dude, that's a neat way to, that's a crazy way to refer to your son as she had a little baby, but I do.

• 15:04Speaker 02

  My son, he's the man, dude. He's awesome.

• 15:06Speaker 01

  Oh, but that's awesome, dude. Um, how did you get into pranking? You're from Ohio.

• 15:10Speaker 02

  Yeah. So I was always a class, I mean, I always remember that first time that everyone was quiet in the library and I farted, you know, like you just never forget. The humor and, and the laughter that comes with that. So I remember getting addicted to being the class clown. In seventh grade, me and my friends would prank these Chinese restaurants, you know? Uh, my, my buddy's parents were doctors, so we'd go into space, but they had the fancy phones in the eighties, the big speak, the ones you could use speakerphone. It was, I mean, it's. So we would prank this Chinese restaurant all the time, man, and, and.

• 15:48Speaker 01

  What would y'all do?

• 15:50Speaker 02

  Well, I would call and ask them if their fortune cookies were true, you know? And we would order all these egg rolls, just so, so many egg rolls, but I. I said, are your fortune cookies true? Cause this one says I'm gonna eat a big turd and blow up. Like that's not even funny, but my buddy reminded me of that the other day. But we called them every day and then, so the, the owner got so mad.

• 16:17Speaker 01

  What'd he get mad about?

• 16:19Speaker 02

  Well, apparently we, they were getting all these orders ready and we never, we were little kids. We never came and picked them up.

• 16:25Speaker 01

  Oh, so you guys would make orders for, for Eddie?

• 16:28Speaker 02

  Yeah, we ordered egg, seven and a half inch egg rolls for Eddie and it was not cool because. They're working their butts off and we're just little kids laughing on the phone and. But the craziest stuff happened. This, this guy that ran the restaurant. I'll never forget one time he said. You come down to my restaurant, I'll blow your fucking head off.

• 16:50Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 16:51Speaker 02

  And uh, he said that to me and three of my friends and then he said, you'll get yours in the mail. And uh, we got subpoenaed in the mail in seven, in seventh grade.

• 17:02Speaker 01

  You got subpoenaed by the Chinese in seventh grade?

• 17:03Speaker 02

  The restaurant, yeah, yeah. So we had to go to court. I went, me and two friends and his parents took us to court and we sat at a big table. And got lectured and they told us how many thousands of dollars we cost them in business. And my buddy's dad's car got towed while we were in there too.

• 17:23Speaker 01

  He must have been pissed.

• 17:24Speaker 02

  It was, they were so pissed, dude. It was so funny. I'll never forget that shit.

• 17:29Speaker 01

  What other stuff would y'all say to them over the phone? Cause it just to.

• 17:33Speaker 02

  I mean, all I remember is making them mad, ordering egg rolls, you know? I, I don't remember really.

• 17:41Speaker 01

  Cause egg rolls are good. I don't see, but I guess, and you're not going to pick them up, so you have no plan to pick up the egg rolls you're ordering?

• 17:47Speaker 02

  No, and I think I was probably just practicing my impression of a, um, Chinese person or something.

• 17:55Speaker 01

  My friend Bobby's Chinese, dude, he doesn't give a fuck even. Even if you ask him, he fucking denies it. He's a pussy.

• 18:00Speaker 02

  That's crazy.

• 18:02Speaker 01

  But he's a good guy, but he's also a fucking, he's one of those people that like denies where he's from or whatever. You know, he, he, I mean.

• 18:09Speaker 02

  Where is he from?

• 18:10Speaker 01

  China.

• 18:11Speaker 02

  Is he? Okay.

• 18:12Speaker 01

  Yeah, but he denies it. He's just like, he's kind of like, he's like, kind of like, um, he's like DJ Khaled or whatever. Cause he's from Palestine, he, he just doesn't talk about it.

• 18:21Speaker 02

  Oh, okay.

• 18:22Speaker 01

  But Bobby just has something against his own. Culture or whatever. Bring up a picture of him.

• 18:29Speaker 01

  He used to dance too, back in his home country or whatever.

• 18:33Speaker 02

  Oh yeah, I've seen him. He's, he's a funny guy. Is he out in LA?

• 18:39Speaker 01

  I don't know where he lives. He probably denies wherever he lives. I don't think, he won't even tell you where he fucking lives. It's just, it's just the kind of guy he is. But he's dealt with a lot of shit.

• 18:49Speaker 02

  That's the shit that makes me glad I don't have hair. Sometimes I feel like the people with hair have to figure out how to look cool, you know, like, and uh. I'm like, you know, I have, I don't have to worry about that shit.

• 19:01Speaker 01

  Oh yeah, he looks like he's been sniffing fireworks right there. But he's good. He's definitely a good guy. So you, but you, so you guys would call over there and do you remember any of the other like things you would say that the, uh, fortune said?

• 19:13Speaker 02

  No, I don't actually. My buddy just reminded me of that. He, it's stuck in his memory for fifth, for that long and he just told me. My fortune says I, if, that I'm gonna eat a giant turd and blow up, you know, and he just thought that was so funny. I don't. I don't really think it's that funny, but he'll never forget me saying that. But I just remember the guy saying, I'll blow your effing head off, you know, like that, that's crazy to say that on the phone, but. Back then you can trace calls, you know?

• 19:45Speaker 01

  But not from their country, dude. They've been in so many wars and stuff. I, I, and a lot of their family have been victims of stuff like that. So I think.

• 19:54Speaker 02

  Fuck it.

• 19:55Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 19:57Speaker 02

  I'm gonna blow his head off.

• 20:00Speaker 01

  They look at a lot of people, especially, bro. I think you have to think that Chinese restaurants look at anybody who calls. As the enemy, dude.

• 20:10Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 20:10Speaker 01

  Cause they must, eighty percent of their calls. Must be people just fucking with them.

• 20:17Speaker 02

  Back then we pulled up in the yellow, the phone books, man.

• 20:20Speaker 01

  You can call it the Yellow Pages. It's okay. I know what you're talking about.

• 20:23Speaker 02

  Do you? I don't think you're old enough to remember that shit, man. But we used to just pick names out.

• 20:28Speaker 01

  Oh, I think, oh, I thought you meant it as like a racial book or whatever.

• 20:31Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 20:33Speaker 01

  But yeah, I see what you're saying, dude.

• 20:35Speaker 02

  Oh, the big ass phone books that we would do prank calls with the rotary dial and shit, but. I was holding a big ass VHS camera on my shoulder at a young age, making, we hung this banana. Like twenty, twenty stories down and I tied a, tied a kite string to a banana. And there was this heavyset guy tanning with all this oil on and I dangled and we had the, we had the camera, um, and we dangled the. The banana all the way down onto his belly.

• 21:05Speaker 01

  From twenty stories?

• 21:06Speaker 02

  Oh, well, I mean, it was up and it was in Panama City. It was very high up, but it was impressive, yeah. I've lost so many of those good tapes, you know?

• 21:15Speaker 01

  God, dude.

• 21:16Speaker 02

  I hate losing that.

• 21:17Speaker 01

  And y'all slowly moved it all the way down?

• 21:18Speaker 02

  Oh yeah, yeah, it was awesome.

• 21:19Speaker 01

  Oh, that's beautiful.

• 21:20Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 21:21Speaker 01

  And it just, were you, did you touch him or just get as close as possible?

• 21:24Speaker 02

  I think I dangled it. I don't remember it landing on his belly, but he was like laid out like a frog, man. I'll never forget that. He was all greased up and. He looked like a frog from up there and it was so impressive that we got it right in front of his face though, you know? Yeah.

• 21:40Speaker 01

  Fruit face and they call that.

• 21:44Speaker 01

  If you could, dude, you twen- I mean, that's, the problem is, there's not like a, there's not like an Olympics for the fucking awesome shit like that. You know, there's an Olympics even jump over something. But if you can dangle a piece of fruit or produce or something, twenty, about twenty stories down? And get it two centimeters away from a guy's mouth?

• 22:05Speaker 02

  I probably have the world record, you know, without even knowing it, you know?

• 22:09Speaker 01

  I bet you have a few of them, dude.

• 22:11Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's, that's, that's true.

• 22:13Speaker 01

  Um, what was it like growing up at where you grew up? Like, what was your home life like? Like, were your parents, like, were you, like, I mean, this is retarded. Where, did you come from? Like, was your dad a clown or whatever? Like, or what was going on?

• 22:22Speaker 02

  Man, he was basically a clown. I mean, he, so I was born in New York City, cause my dad was in the Coast Guard, so. I'm, I'm proud to have been born in New York and I lived there for three years and then we moved to Ohio. So I grew up in, you know, my dad's, my dad's dad was, my grandpa was a preacher, you know, at a small little Bible church. And it was just, um, but my dad was wild. He played guitar. He didn't drink or smoke. My dad never has done any drugs or anything, man. It's like so strange that. Somebody can go through life without doing anything like that, not having a drink or anything.

• 23:04Speaker 01

  I'd take a rip off of something, dude.

• 23:06Speaker 02

  Yeah, I know. I mean, how do you handle life? Like, but he was, um, before we went to the pool every day, we had to like. Read Zig Zig, listen to Zig Ziglar audiobooks on how to be successful, you know? And then memorize the Bible and like.

• 23:22Speaker 01

  What was Zig Ziglar? Bring that up? Bring up an audiobook, just a link of it on YouTube if you can.

• 23:33Speaker 04

  I'm Zig Ziglar and I'm in a studio sharing with you a couple of thoughts before we go to the live audience. To begin with, this program is literally for everyone, whether you're a mechanic or a physician. Whether you're a college professor or a kindergarten student, the information is something that you will benefit from.

• 23:55Speaker 01

  So, okay, so, and this is, and this one's called, uh, developing the qualities of success. So Zig Ziglar was like a motivational speaker?

• 24:00Speaker 02

  Yeah, he, it was about sales and being motivational speaker. Yeah.

• 24:04Speaker 01

  So you guys would listen to that?

• 24:05Speaker 02

  Yeah, and memorize the Bible, you know, we had to memorize certain books of the Bible. Do like pull-ups, push-ups, um, and it was just like this whole routine before we go to the pool. But my dad, I was kind of, I was embarrassed of him when I was young. I mean, he would wear this, he'd put this rubber old man mask on and drive down the road. And I'm a little kid in the backseat and he's scaring people on the highway, you know, and, um.

• 24:31Speaker 01

  Dude, and my dad was actually an old man driving down the road. Yeah, so that's fucking.

• 24:36Speaker 02

  Had the, the white hair in the back of this rubber mask and.

• 24:39Speaker 01

  Dude, oh, yeah, dude. My dad used to give away, he had like, he got this deal, like stocking vending machines or something, but he quit like the first time he. He got too much of the deliveries. They delivered all the chocolates and everything and the pretzels and the mints or whatever. So he left all this shit in the back of his car and the windows were always cracked, cause they wouldn't go all the way up. So the rain would get in and it got hot in there. So, bro, but then for years, we'd have to sit on top of all these boxes of fucking melted chocolate and bullshit. You'd get out of there, you have chocolate and pretzels stuck to your.

• 25:10Speaker 02

  Are you serious?

• 25:12Speaker 01

  It was horrible. They had mushrooms growing out of the bottom of his car and shit. Like, it was just, it was a fucking. Produce section of a vehicle. Chocolate salad, bro. It was, his, his whole car was a piece of shit. And so every time we'd get out, we'd like, not only would we be so ashamed of ourselves, but we would just be covered in like. Noggin and fucking bullshit and shame, but go on.

• 25:34Speaker 02

  No, dude, that's funny. My dad ended up doing the gumball machines eventually in life.

• 25:39Speaker 01

  Did he?

• 25:39Speaker 02

  Yeah, he was taking gumball machines to, but like.

• 25:43Speaker 01

  But did y'all have a sack of gum in the fridge? Cause my, my old roommate did gum and he had, uh, at night he'd have to come home and put a sack of, like. Bro, he had like eleven hundred gumballs in a, in a garbage bag. He'd have to keep them in the fridge at night. But, bro, we would be getting high and shit and we'd go in there and we would eat like, bro.

• 25:59Speaker 02

  Fuck him.

• 26:00Speaker 01

  Oh, we'd eat eleven gums, bro, and he, bro.

• 26:03Speaker 02

  The taste goes away in three seconds of those shit.

• 26:06Speaker 01

  He would lose his mind, bro. He'd have to fucking go for a run. He couldn't even handle it and we fucking, we would lie about it. And our faces would be all like blue and pink on the edges, bro. Like, we had a damn gender reveal going on in our throat, bro. We, we'd just been smacking on his fucking, uh. On his product, bro.

• 26:22Speaker 02

  Oh my gosh, that's hilarious.

• 26:24Speaker 01

  Anyway, go on, bro.

• 26:25Speaker 02

  No, no, but I, you know, looking back, I was like, why, you know, my dad played guitar on the porch, you know, and sang his songs to everybody in the neighborhood.

• 26:34Speaker 01

  And he wrote them?

• 26:35Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, he's, he was, he's a great, um, musician. He, he, he plays all these like. Awesome folk songs that are his, you know? And, uh, and he was a good athlete. He'd be running his miles and shit when I was getting on the bus, you know, but like when you, when you're younger, you're kind of embarrassed of everything your parents do, you know what I mean? But looking back and he, you know, he taught us to, he, he'd build stilts, you know, and we were walking around the neighborhood on like. These giant stilts, you know, and riding unicycles, just doing all the weird shit.

• 27:07Speaker 01

  What do you mean riding unicycles? Like, was he trying to like? Be seen by people or was he trying actually to do unique stuff?

• 27:14Speaker 02

  Yeah, I think it was just that he'd like to do unique stuff, you know? He'd build a boat in the backyard, you know, and, uh, we'd sleep out on the, a flat boat out on the water and stuff and like. I mean, it was cool. I, I think it's cool now, but when I was younger, I was embarrassed, you know?

• 27:28Speaker 01

  Oh dude, getting embarrassed to your parents? Bro, my mom got a sheepskin jacket or whatever from New Jersey. And she was all excited about it. She saved up for like two years for it, bro. I don't even know how she got a hold of it. She got like a good deal on it or whatever. But it had real, uh, you know, like the curly stuff that comes off of a sheep or whatever? What is that called?

• 27:53Speaker 02

  That real wiry shit, wool?

• 27:55Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That was it, bro. She had that real wool. And she had it, bro, and she had this bitch, bro, she looked like a, she looked like a Care Bear that somebody like had never blow dried or whatever, that had been. It was insane, dude, and she would wear it everywhere. And she'd be like, I have on my New Jersey jacket. And dude, we couldn't even, bruh.

• 28:16Speaker 02

  Like that?

• 28:18Speaker 01

  But it was all, see the wool around the neck? It, the whole thing, the whole thing was the wool.

• 28:23Speaker 02

  When was this?

• 28:25Speaker 01

  I don't even know. I quit keeping track of time once I hated the world. You feel me?

• 28:31Speaker 02

  Yeah, a hundred percent. Good, good idea, bro.

• 28:34Speaker 01

  It was so embarrassing, dude. And I would like, uh, oh, I was, I was so embarrassed when I was a kid.

• 28:41Speaker 02

  You know, we held hands and prayed at every restaurant in public and I was, you know, I was always ashamed of that, you know, cause the waitress always comes up when you're praying.

• 28:51Speaker 01

  Yeah, the waitress I'm sure comes up and goes, hey, aren't you the guy who said that you're gonna eat a huge turd and fucking blow your head off? I'm sure.

• 29:00Speaker 02

  We didn't always eat at Chinese restaurants. My parents took us to Pizza Hut sometimes, bro. Dude, Pizza Hut had Pac-Man and shit and the mini balls.

• 29:10Speaker 01

  How great was it?

• 29:12Speaker 02

  Pizza Hut was the best. I still miss some Pizza Hut, but they don't, it doesn't taste like it used to, you know?

• 29:18Speaker 01

  It's not the same. I think like CBS or Paramount owns it now. Somebody does, but I remember, bro.

• 29:23Speaker 02

  They made it big time.

• 29:24Speaker 01

  Dude, they would have, uh, funeral parties at the one in our town, bro.

• 29:28Speaker 02

  Really?

• 29:29Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 29:29Speaker 02

  Damn.

• 29:30Speaker 01

  And so like, we'd be over there and like, can you guys quiet down? We're doing like a funeral service and we're like.

• 29:36Speaker 01

  Bro, this is.

• 29:37Speaker 02

  This is Pizza Hut. Do you remember the red cups? Those red cups are so good, man. The pop that came out of them.

• 29:45Speaker 01

  Oh, but it just like, yeah, dude, I just, and I would sit there fuming, so angry that these people had died or whatever. I couldn't even remember what was going on. But shit like that just fucking pickled my fucking dick. You know, I was just, something was wrong with me though. But anyway.

• 30:02Speaker 02

  It was a party place. Pizza Hut was a party place.

• 30:04Speaker 01

  Yeah, it was a party place, dude. And we had this little place called BJ's Pizza. And they would never tell you what the BJ's stood for, but you knew.

• 30:12Speaker 02

  You already know.

• 30:13Speaker 01

  Right. And the middle of the pizza was always wet, bro.

• 30:16Speaker 02

  Oh, see, that's how Pizza Hut is now, man. That shit's soggy in the middle. It's, you know, it's flimsy and shit. I don't like that stuff.

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• 33:04Speaker 01

  So your dad was a unique character and you guys would pray at these restaurants?

• 33:08Speaker 02

  Well, yeah, I mean, we were raised going to church every Sunday, you know, and

• 33:15Speaker 02

  I was just saying that, you know, and now, I mean, I'll bow my head and pray and I'm not, I'm not ashamed of it. It's just funny how, you know, when you're younger, you know, not many people at the restaurant are holding hands and praying before Pizza Hut.

• 33:29Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 33:31Speaker 02

  It was just, that was just something.

• 33:33Speaker 01

  That reminds me, bro, my mom would make us pray. We would pray for clean clothes for everybody in the world.

• 33:38Speaker 02

  Seriously?

• 33:39Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 33:39Speaker 02

  That's a good prayer, though, you know?

• 33:41Speaker 01

  It's pretty good.

• 33:42Speaker 02

  I pray, I just wrap it up. I pray for everyone going through a hard time, everyone suffering, you know?

• 33:48Speaker 01

  Oh, so you just do the whole, you just in and out?

• 33:52Speaker 02

  I mean, no, no, not that quick, but that's one of my main focuses during a prayer, because it covers so much. I'm like, I pray for all the people out there that are suffering today.

• 34:03Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 34:03Speaker 02

  Because everyone's going through something, man.

• 34:05Speaker 01

  Oh, for sure, yeah.

• 34:06Speaker 02

  It's freaking.

• 34:07Speaker 01

  It just seems, is that a little generic sometimes? I'm like?

• 34:10Speaker 02

  Well, yeah, I mean.

• 34:11Speaker 01

  Sorry, dude, I'm putting you on the prayer spot or whatever.

• 34:13Speaker 02

  No, you're fine. I don't care, but I know that we're supposed to ask for, I mean, who knows what we're supposed to do, but I mean, I do isolate certain prayers. Although I feel like God knows what he's supposed to do, you know, it's like.

• 34:28Speaker 01

  It is kind of weird, bro. If you know what you're supposed to do, right? Say if you're Willy Wonka, right? And you want people to come by in the morning to your factory and knock on the door and be like, "Don't forget to make candy today," or whatever. You know what I'm saying? That's, it is, it's kind of crazy.

• 34:45Speaker 02

  It's annoying when people tell you what you already know you're gonna do, or you need to do. I mean, you deal with it, I deal with it.

• 34:51Speaker 01

  Or like if you're ironing a shirt and somebody's like, "Hey, man, iron that shirt."

• 34:54Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 34:55Speaker 01

  You're like.

• 34:55Speaker 02

  Like, no shit, I'm getting around to it, okay? I was just about to iron it, you know?

• 35:00Speaker 01

  Yeah, like, what if God's like, "Dude, I'm already doing this."

• 35:04Speaker 02

  I mean, I love people, but, man, they're annoying. I mean, I'm annoying myself, but I'm just saying.

• 35:10Speaker 01

  A lot of people are made out of just shit and fucking static.

• 35:14Speaker 02

  Hmm.

• 35:15Speaker 01

  A lot of fucking bullshit.

• 35:16Speaker 02

  Yeah, dude.

• 35:17Speaker 01

  And then there's always some gay dude trying to fuck, just trying to fucking come on your back or whatever. Dude, we used to have a gay dude in our town and he would fucking, bro, he would, he would J.O. in his hands and he would just fucking hum it off a building, dude.

• 35:30Speaker 02

  Are you serious?

• 35:31Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 35:32Speaker 02

  That's crazy.

• 35:33Speaker 01

  For no reason.

• 35:34Speaker 02

  What?

• 35:35Speaker 01

  For no reason at all.

• 35:36Speaker 02

  This true story?

• 35:37Speaker 01

  Yeah. What do you mean, ham check?

• 35:39Speaker 02

  Dude, I was locked up in DC on a US Marshals warrant, because anything you do in DC is, it's a federal crime. So, dude, but there's this one little dude, we're like in a pod in the US Marshals office and there's like thirty of us in this, these bars.

• 35:58Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 35:59Speaker 02

  And one dude can't stop whacking off, you know? And, and everybody kicking, you know, and be like, "Start again." And then all of a sudden, everything was cool and then you turn around, he's, he's in the back corner. I mean, people can't help it, you know, certain people. I mean, he obviously had some issues, but.

• 36:17Speaker 01

  Yeah, but I think, I mean, it's better than him committing a crime or a murder, or what was he in for, do you know?

• 36:22Speaker 02

  Probably doing that on the streets, I'm guessing, but I don't know. I didn't talk to him, man. I probably, I probably helped stop him from, from doing that.

• 36:31Speaker 01

  I'll tell you this, bro, if I'm jerking off near you, kick me.

• 36:35Speaker 02

  I'm going to, bro, a hundred percent. You're not coming on my back, bro.

• 36:39Speaker 01

  Hey, bro.

• 36:39Speaker 02

  No, bro.

• 36:40Speaker 01

  Dude, one of the best things I ever heard somebody say, "Don't come on my back and tell me it's raining."

• 36:45Speaker 02

  Don't steal my boxers and help me look for it either. That's what they do in jail. They take your shit and then help you look for it, search parties, but.

• 36:53Speaker 01

  Is it a fun game or it's actually just theft?

• 36:56Speaker 02

  No, it's just a quote. I always like to, I always like to say that, you know, you steal, they steal your boxers and help you look for it.

• 37:04Speaker 01

  Oh, dude, we were on spring break, bro. We all were doing pills and everything and we all, we had three, three guys all, like, sharing a room or whatever. We all stole each other's pills at the same time and then helped each other fucking look for it, dude.

• 37:18Speaker 02

  No way.

• 37:18Speaker 01

  Yeah. And I was like, "Dude, no way, somebody fucking stole your pills?" And somebody had stole mine and somebody stole Kyle's, dude, and we all had each other's pills.

• 37:28Speaker 02

  Bunch of shady motherfuckers, man, that is messed up.

• 37:31Speaker 01

  Um, how do, how do you hide the camera whenever you're out there? How do you keep it concealed or do you not?

• 37:37Speaker 02

  Actually, I'm just very creative and that's a question I've never answered before, just like showing myself. So it's, I, the craziest thing, it's not about the camera. It's, I put them in a hip, in some sort of weird hypnosis with the confusion and the stupidity that once I start engaging, they, I can, I hold the phone right in their face sometimes, the camera. But in the early days, it was the backpack. I would act like I'm a college student and just like, keep it right here. And then I'd be in a store and I'd hold eight things and just have it. But it was all about the, the confusion and getting their eye contact and they believe me that I'm not,

• 38:21Speaker 02

  there's no way this guy's filming me with that phone right there in my face. And, and dude, now my phone has six cameras and it's orange, you know, and it still, it still works, though. But I, yeah, that's, that's something that everybody has wanted to know. I call it the ham cam, you know?

• 38:38Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 38:38Speaker 02

  It's a, because it's not about, it's not about the phone, actually, you know? It's just a weird thing. I, I mean.

• 38:46Speaker 01

  Is it a strategy that you use that was part of your plan when you approach people? Like, "I'm gonna create this sort of confusion out of the gate," or did it just kind of evolve into that?

• 38:54Speaker 02

  Yeah, I just always used to mess with people and like, act like I knew them. That was one thing I did at a very young age. Back when I was nineteen, twenty on Ohio State campus, we would roam the streets at night, you know? Tripping on mushrooms and just talking to the street, the night people, you know? But.

• 39:13Speaker 01

  God's warriors, they call them.

• 39:15Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah. And they have the, they have the funniest stories and stuff, too, but I, I prefer attorneys and doctors. I'd, I like to prank more sophisticated people now. I don't, I don't mess with, in the early days, I would, I was messing with the sign holders, but it was the scammer ones, though. I wasn't messing with the ones that really needed it. I was just kind of busting, busting the, the scammer, the scammer sign flyers. They call them, "I'm flying a sign, I'm just out here flying a sign."

• 39:50Speaker 01

  Yeah, dude, the night people, bro. Oh, yeah, bro. There's something about being out at night. Dude, one night, we'd been eating some mushrooms or something. We parked down here at the gas station just to see who was alive, right? And there's a dude fucked up. There's one guy unconscious who would like, was trying to get out of his car and had just given up, right? So he's just like leaned up against like, asleep in his own car with the door open, one foot out of it. And then there's another dude, he's like, "My car's broken, can you help me?" I was like, "I don't know enough about vehicles," you know? And he goes, "Well, there's just like some engine trouble or whatever." And he's looking in the back of his car in the trunk, right? He's looking for the engine or whatever.

• 40:36Speaker 01

  So I was like, "Oh, fuck, nobody can help this guy," right? Then there's another dude over on the side, he's dressed like Indiana Jones, right, for some reason? And he's like, "Oh, I'll help you, dude," and this dude, I see him walk over, he has a fucking machete hanging off the edge of his pants, like a real Indiana Jones guy. And I was like, "Oh, these are."

• 40:56Speaker 02

  Dude, they're warriors, man.

• 40:58Speaker 01

  They're warriors. These are the night people. These are the people that God makes as side quests, you know?

• 41:03Speaker 02

  A hundred percent.

• 41:04Speaker 01

  These are the after hour heroes of Christ, brother.

• 41:08Speaker 02

  The outfits on those people, sometimes they have some weird alternative weapon and like usually have some glittery pink tank top on.

• 41:20Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah. They're ready to pump on somebody, dude.

• 41:23Speaker 02

  I was out in LA recently and saw some really interesting outfits on some characters.

• 41:28Speaker 01

  Oh, they have guys out there that'll smoke their own cock or whatever, you know? They don't even care. They'll fucking put a lighter to their own nuts. People don't care anymore. So take me out of high school. So you grew up, you have this wild family, you and your friends are pranking the shit.

• 41:40Speaker 02

  Well, they weren't that wild. It was just, I just grew up in a Christian family, you know?

• 41:44Speaker 01

  But y'all are unicycling, bro?

• 41:46Speaker 02

  Yeah, you're right. We were the strange people in the neighborhood. I could do gainers at the, off the high dives and, you know? I mean, we had a lot of very special skills, you know? Most of my friends can't, I'm still proud of that. Can you ride a unicycle? One, one wheel? Anyway, I like to, I like to throw that around still.

• 42:06Speaker 01

  I probably can't.

• 42:07Speaker 02

  I mean.

• 42:07Speaker 01

  Is it hard?

• 42:08Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's pretty hard.

• 42:09Speaker 01

  What's the trick to it?

• 42:12Speaker 02

  Like, just practicing every day. Like, I'd still fall off like five times before I was actually taking off and getting momentum.

• 42:20Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 42:20Speaker 02

  And just pedaling.

• 42:21Speaker 01

  Because the guy on E- it's always this. Like, fucking just go one way.

• 42:24Speaker 02

  Oh, they go back and forth. Can you imagine the high ones, like, gosh, like, you know, when they're like seven feet in the air, if you fall, man, damn.

• 42:34Speaker 01

  So what's, what's like, your first kind of occupation that you head into, like, out of college, like?

• 42:39Speaker 02

  So I went to college for a year at Liberty University, so I just wanted to get out of Ohio. And I, believe it or not, I saw an infomercial saying, "Come to Liberty University." And I called this number and they gave me all this free money to go to school there. And it's a Christian college in Virginia, but I went there for a year. I thought I was gonna walk, I, I thought I could play football there. I thought I could walk on in, in football.

• 43:02Speaker 01

  Did you try?

• 43:03Speaker 02

  No, I went to one practice and saw they were like NFL sized athletes, because when I heard like one double A or division two, I was, I was way out of my league, you know? So I just started partying. My roommate was in a band and I, I fell in love with music. We started just smoking weed and recording music, man, like, just recording anything. And I've always liked to record and listen back, but it started with smoking weed in college and I fell in love with, you know, my buddy was just packing bars and I got to watch the excitement of somebody being in a band. And so I came back, I, I went to school for a year. I was like, "Hell, no."

• 43:44Speaker 02

  I remember, I just barely did enough. It wasn't worth my time. I was like C student. I was just part, I ended up partying more at the Christian college than I had in high school, you know?

• 43:54Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 43:55Speaker 02

  I mean, they, they party hard at those schools and.

• 43:58Speaker 01

  Do they?

• 43:59Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, I mean.

• 44:00Speaker 01

  We all doing LSD and coke and shit?

• 44:02Speaker 02

  Bro.

• 44:03Speaker 01

  Or smoking crypto?

• 44:04Speaker 02

  I, I.

• 44:04Speaker 01

  For Christ or whatever?

• 44:05Speaker 02

  I put acid in my buddy. I look back on what I did to my old roommate. He had never tripped before, dude, and I think it's the most fucked up thing I've ever done is put acid in my buddy's beer and then ask him later how he's feeling at the party, dude. That's just not cool at all. Now he works for the government and he's like, and he won't even take my call. He texts me all the time, but dude, he's so paranoid to talk to me. And we were tight. We're still tight, but he just will never take my call for some reason. And I think I understand.

• 44:40Speaker 01

  Oh dude, yeah, bro. People.

• 44:42Speaker 02

  How can I do that to somebody? I got older and I was like, what the fuck was I thinking, man?

• 44:47Speaker 01

  That's like kind of the ultimate prank.

• 44:48Speaker 02

  I feel bad about it. I want to make it clear that it's not okay. And, um, you know, it happened though. You know, I just think it's crazy that I thought it was okay at the time.

• 44:58Speaker 01

  Oh dude, no, no, yeah. Well, yeah, a comedian did that to somebody and the guy developed like a severe like, he like takes his shirt off all the time now or whatever. Something happened to him. So it's fucking, that kind of shit can, something can happen to him. And your guy joined the fucking CIA or whatever?

• 45:14Speaker 02

  He's basically very double oh seven. Can't tell me what he does. Always flying in helicopters with the govern, all the politicians.

• 45:22Speaker 01

  He's still tripping.

• 45:23Speaker 02

  He's getting awards. Yeah, but it helped him. I think that this one, this time it helped him raise, raise the bar. He's really kicking ass now, man.

• 45:31Speaker 01

  Praise God. That's how God works sometimes, dude. And I'll say this also, they, they had a thing vagip and a lot of girls would put a, hit LSD in their vaginas back in the day. That was a big thing in our town. And one girl like,

• 45:41Speaker 02

  They put it in their, in their vagina?

• 45:43Speaker 01

  Yeah, in their cooters or whatever. People call them different stuff, but people would do that, but they call it vagip and that was a big thing. Bring that up, vagip and see if people have, that took off or not.

• 45:55Speaker 01

  Cause that was a cool thing in our community. Uh, taking LSD vaginally is often referred to or misspelled in online spaces as vagip. It's biologically possible, but carries significant health risks.

• 46:10Speaker 02

  Makes sense. To try shrooms up there instead. It's more natural.

• 46:14Speaker 01

  That's a good point.

• 46:15Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 46:16Speaker 01

  Dude, yeah, if they made like a psilocybin based, um, IUD or whatever.

• 46:20Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 46:21Speaker 01

  That shit would be popping, bro.

• 46:24Speaker 02

  This girl told me recently, there's groups of people that try to collect as many STDs as they can.

• 46:30Speaker 01

  Really?

• 46:30Speaker 02

  Is that nuts?

• 46:31Speaker 01

  They're called frat.

• 46:32Speaker 02

  I mean, that's how sick the world has become. They're like, they go home and celebrate if they add another one to their, I mean, it's just a sick world that we live in.

• 46:41Speaker 01

  Baseball cards for your vagina or whatever.

• 46:42Speaker 02

  Oh my God.

• 46:43Speaker 01

  So take me back in, bro. Um, you, you're dosing your roommate or whatever. He's in the CIA. What else happened?

• 46:50Speaker 02

  Well, like I said, I, I, I wasn't college caliber football. So like, I called my buddies and they were, they were working at the car lot in, in Columbus, Ohio at this Toyota store. And they're like, man, we're selling cars, man, making three and $400 a car, you know?

• 47:08Speaker 01

  Oh shit.

• 47:09Speaker 02

  And I was like, man, if these guys can do it, I can do that shit. And I, I went right back. I was 19 years old and started, that was a big job. I mean, I was making a lot of money for, um, and I was living on campus, you know? And, you know, making five to seven grand a month when you're 19 years old is a lot of money. I went right to the pawn shop and bought drums, keyboard. I bought everybody down on campus at Ohio State campus. Cause I was just living with all my buddies who were going there now. And, uh, I remember that first check I got, I went and bought it, all the instruments that we needed and we started a band on Ohio State campus and, but I was selling cars and I was pretty good at it, um, right away, you know? So that was the first big job I had.

• 47:54Speaker 01

  What made you, uh, good at being a car salesman?

• 47:58Speaker 02

  I think it was my work ethic from football and then my addiction probably. Cause once I started getting, once I'd sell my first car and the manager's like, on the calculator, yep, you made $400. You know how much that was to a 19 year old broke college student? So I was like, but work ethic, cause playing football was like, I think it taught me a lot, sports, you know? So nobody, I, I grinded pretty hard on the car lot. I would just, you work a lot in that business, but.

• 48:33Speaker 01

  Were you a good closer? Like what was your thing? Like?

• 48:37Speaker 02

  No, I, God gave me this weird gift with my voice. It's the no pressure. I don't care if you buy, but customers always wanted to buy from me because I didn't care if they bought, but it was like, I sound stoned when I talk or whatever. I sound laid back and they like that. It does some, it's something I can't teach. It's just a weird God given gift a hundred percent, you know? Cause I always did good in sales. I became a closer. Years later I was a manager and stuff like that. So.

• 49:10Speaker 01

  They'd send you in the frigging auto ecrosly, huh?

• 49:13Speaker 02

  Oh yeah. Yeah. The, that was weird, but that was, that was fun. It was easy. It's the same shit. Just be, talk to them, ask them how they're doing, where they're from and, you know, just how's everything else been going?

• 49:28Speaker 01

  What were you selling? Trucks, vans?

• 49:30Speaker 02

  Toyotas actually. Um, yeah. In the early days I was selling used cars, you know, at a Toyota store and, and, but Toyotas, you know? That was what I always liked to sell.

• 49:44Speaker 01

  Hell yeah. And what was like your most successful year, do you think, selling them?

• 49:50Speaker 02

  Well, 2016, I was, I hit 40 cars a month a couple of times, which was and I was winning a lot of awards, like top salesman in the city. And, uh, they'd give us envelopes full of like five grand every month and shit. And I'd give my wife a thousand and then keep four grand. I was, I was bad.

• 50:15Speaker 01

  Bro, that's frigging love, man.

• 50:17Speaker 02

  It's called mama don't know money, you know? It's like, babe, I got second place in the city. Here's a thousand. Go ahead and buy yourself something nice. But I had four grand to go play cart poker with, you know?

• 50:29Speaker 01

  And is that what you were doing with your money? Like what were you doing with your money?

• 50:32Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 50:32Speaker 01

  Did you notice your addiction start then?

• 50:35Speaker 02

  Yeah. I, I, I mean, I, I destroyed myself financially, like many times over with chasing the big score in poker. I mean, I played in the world series of poker. I mean, I have some success, you know, I've got, but, but I literally, once I got behind in life, you know? Like owing the IRS a bunch of money and just building up all kinds of debt. I was going for, I was playing for millions of dollars and out in Vegas and I would put whatever I needed to into these tournaments to play. So yeah, I mean a hundred percent addiction destroyed my marriage because I was gambling all the time.

• 51:14Speaker 02

  I mean, I always made it to my kids' games and stuff, but looking back, I was 13 years completely sober off drugs and alcohol. But the gambling was the biggest monster, man. And, and it wasn't until recently I quit gambling and it's like the most freeing feeling ever, dude. Cause it controlled my life for years, bro. It was, it was bad.

• 51:36Speaker 01

  How did it start?

• 51:37Speaker 02

  Dude, these little fairs when I was a little kid had the wheel and the dice that rolled down. They were letting little kids, it was called the West Jefferson Ox Roast, man. I'm giving my little hometown a, um, shout out, but I'd like to file a lawsuit against them starting, I mean, they started, they had the, there was a game called Big Six and then Chuckaluck, man. And this big.

• 52:01Speaker 01

  Chuckaluck?

• 52:01Speaker 02

  Chuckaluck. The firemen would run this charity game, but little kid, we were betting dollars. And we're little, I mean, same year I pranked the Chinese restaurants, man. I was like in seventh grade when I started gambling at these little local fairs, you know? You know how the churches will have them and stuff sometimes?

• 52:19Speaker 01

  Churches have them a lot, especially bro. I would go over, my buddy and I would drive over there. My buddy Lance, we used to drive over to, I think it was Virginia, dude. And his mom, I think, lived over there and I couldn't, he would go into the strip club or whatever. I wasn't old enough. But he'd come out and tell me what the tits looked like and everything. And I'd sit out in the van. And, uh, and so he'd be in there having some drinks where he had a fake ID and looking at the tits, whatever. He'd come out and describe them to me or whatever, wake me up. Cause I'd, I wouldn't stay awake the whole time waiting like a fucking pervert or whatever. I'd fucking get a little rest or whatever.

• 52:58Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 52:58Speaker 01

  And then, uh, but we would go to these, have these little church fairs where you could actually gamble and win money at them.

• 53:04Speaker 02

  That's what I'm talking about. You pull up Chuckaluck. One of the, I, I learned to scam at a young age, um, with that game Chuckaluck. The, the dice would bounce around. Okay? You had to put your money on a color. The dice had yellow, red, all the colors. But it would roll down this thing, this big dice and bounce around. And, and the guys running it, the firemen were just looking out at the people. And, and I would wait till we saw the num, we see the dice land on yellow and I'd slide the dollar on yellow. And it's all about the celebration, you know? I started, yeah, just like acting like you won and you did it. And you know, you sell it right there. That you sell the hustle.

• 53:46Speaker 01

  So they believed you won even if you hadn't?

• 53:49Speaker 02

  Yeah. Yeah. They didn't see that you saw the dice bounce on yellow and then you slide your, you slide your hand and raise them at the same time. You slide the dollar and celebrate. Dude, but I do it and, I mean, I beat, so there's a game in Vegas that, um, it's never mind, but it's a game I still, I mean, I'm not proud of that, but if you can beat Vegas, it's okay.

• 54:13Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 54:13Speaker 02

  I mean, not that I've really beat it, but there is one game I can, I use the fake celebration method, you know? If you celebrate loud enough, they're just like, yeah, pay the man. He won. He wouldn't be celebrating if, you know, if he didn't.

• 54:28Speaker 01

  But so it's so gambling even affected your like it affected though it started to get bad?

• 54:33Speaker 02

  Yeah, I mean, yeah, I was, I was like, taking, I was going out to Vegas all the time. The wife was awesome. She, she would support all my bad decisions, you know, because she was a sweet, she's amazing. And, and

• 54:48Speaker 01

  And this is while you were a car, car salesman?

• 54:50Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, I was, I was always successful in business, you know, always made a lot of money. And because of the car business, you know, but I, I always hate, I've been an artist. I hated selling. I don't like talking to people into buying stuff, you know? But it's the way that I paid the bills and, and for years, but yeah, I made so much that I was very bad with my money. And chasing poker, I just had this dream to win a World Series of Poker bracelet. Like my whole life, I was like trying to, trying to win that, you know, so. But I got in debt with, you know, the IRS because every year they take half my checks. And then they still want 20 grand at the end of the year, you know, and I didn't save up 20 grand, you know?

• 55:36Speaker 02

  Anyway, I was, yeah, but addiction, gambling addiction is one of my worst. I'll be, I have no problem admitting it. It destroyed, it destroyed a lot of things in my life, you know? I've kind of screwed up financially over and over again, you know?

• 55:53Speaker 01

  And there was always gambling that got you like, but that helped put you in those tough spots?

• 55:57Speaker 02

  Yeah, I mean, I quit doing drugs and alcohol, but I would never want to let everything go. I was like, man, no way I'm letting cards go because card poker is a sport. It's on ESPN, you know? It's not, it's not fucking, it's not gambling, but

• 56:12Speaker 01

  Of course, dude.

• 56:12Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 56:13Speaker 01

  People, some guys wear cleats when they play it, dude.

• 56:16Speaker 02

  Dude, I did see a guy, actually Balboni plays poker. Actually, you might not know that. But, uh,

• 56:22Speaker 01

  I didn't even know.

• 56:23Speaker 02

  He wears cleats. Yeah, he wears cleats at the table. It's

• 56:29Speaker 01

  What's the most that you ever lost, you feel like, and the most you ever won?

• 56:35Speaker 02

  I won seven, 17,000 at one tournament, second place in a tournament.

• 56:43Speaker 02

  The last day I gambled down in Seminole, Florida, Hard Rock, Florida. I, uh, I lost like seven grand in one day, but it wasn't that. It was just, I couldn't stop myself from going back to the ATM and I had, I had won all week. But I busted out of this big tournament that was with 300,000 was like on the line. And I had all the chips in this tournament and just got super unlucky.

• 57:12Speaker 02

  God had been telling me to quit gambling forever. He's like, man, I gave you skills with art, with comedy. You have all these other talents and you're going to chase this, this dead end road. Cause all the top poker players go broke eventually. Like it's not a good, it's not a good career path, you know? Anyway, um, yeah, so addiction, gambling addiction was bad.

• 57:39Speaker 01

  And what about at that moment that you're like, I gotta get clean from this?

• 57:44Speaker 02

  Well, it had been going on for years. I knew that I needed to stop. And then I had all these things happening with Johnny Hamcheck, you know? I'm like, you got millions of fans that love you and you, you, you're doing good at this. You don't lose. It's not luck, you know, you can go out and make videos every day. But I, um, just kept trying to score, hit a big, hit a big lick, you know? Just hit a big one and try to get a million and because I was always, I'm, I'm still dealing with the IRS, man.

• 58:19Speaker 01

  You owe them?

• 58:20Speaker 02

  Oh dude, you have no idea. I'm going to get one of those special agents, you know, that comes to your house with the briefcase. Like Will Smith was in a movie, like I, I, I go downtown to the office and they're like, you can't, we can't help you here. And the guy comes around the cubicle looking like, did you say he owes over a hundred thousand? You know, like, like

• 58:42Speaker 01

  Oh, like the big, like he's like, like they

• 58:44Speaker 02

  Yeah, he was snooping in. He's like, you can't do anything for him. You know that, right? And, and I'm like, man, because I'm trying to make things right, you know? I'm like, look, I'm here trying to settle this shit, you know? Bro, it was just, I didn't, I didn't pay attention to IRS for seven years one time. Because I was so angry that they take half my check

• 59:04Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 59:04Speaker 02

  And then want 20 more at the end of the year. I'm like, man, they can come to the house and get it.

• 59:09Speaker 01

  Yeah, come pull up.

• 59:10Speaker 02

  That's the only, and they eventually did, you know?

• 59:15Speaker 02

  They eventually get

• 59:16Speaker 01

  Oh, it's the biggest scam, dude.

• 59:17Speaker 02

  It is.

• 59:18Speaker 01

  It's the biggest fucking scam. And then the money's not even used here in our country, dude.

• 59:23Speaker 02

  Yeah. What do they do with it?

• 59:25Speaker 01

  I mean,

• 59:26Speaker 02

  Not fixing freeways.

• 59:27Speaker 01

  We know, dude, but we can't really talk about it. They're buying missiles for childcare centers, dude. It, that, it just, you know, they're busy.

• 59:35Speaker 02

  You gotta get missiles at childcare centers though.

• 59:38Speaker 01

  Our government is so busy buying missiles for childcare centers.

• 59:44Speaker 05

  It's me, the

• 59:47Speaker 05

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• 59:50Speaker 05

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• 59:59Speaker 05

  Yeah, but I didn't mention that you can save up to 60% off hotels in the Priceline app.

• 1:00:05Speaker 05

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• 1:03:15Speaker 02

  One time I was in Salvation Army Adult Rehabilitation Center for six months. I graduated class of 2002 there.

• 1:03:24Speaker 01

  Oh, nice. What branch were you? Oh, Army. Sorry, go ahead.

• 1:03:26Speaker 02

  Salvation Army. And that's why I always ask people, do I get credit for this? I mean, I was in the Salvation Army. So I want my discounts, you know, but anyway.

• 1:03:36Speaker 01

  Yeah, dude, you were on the front.

• 1:03:38Speaker 02

  I was answering phones in the donation center when I was living there. This was during some hard times, you know? So I, uh, somebody said, I want to talk to your manager. And I came up with, uh, I said, hold on, I'm like, they were mad at, they were mad at me and wanted to speak to my manager. So I put the manager on the phone and I just came up with the name Johnny Hamcheck. So that's when I came up with the name, particularly the name, but the pranking started. I was down in North Carolina, um, working at a car dealership in Greensboro and I was the top salesman. So I had an office.

• 1:04:19Speaker 02

  And there was three rookie salesmen that had started that week and I just had this idea. I was gonna tell them they had to do all this crazy shit. And I told them I was the trainer. So I brought them in my office and I told, I told this, um, this young kid who just started, he was like a pastor, real nerdy kid named Ryan. And he, uh, I said, man, you're gonna have to hold, you know, sometimes you're gonna have to get swung on by these customers. And, um, I just told him he'd have to hold hands with customers and tell them that he loves them to sell a car. And I told him all this crazy stuff. He was gonna have to take advantage of 90 year old ladies and stuff. I was like, are you ready for this?

• 1:05:02Speaker 02

  You know, and he was ready to quit after that little interview. But so I started making videos and they rotted on YouTube for years. I, I did a few of those where I told these rookie car salesmen, they were gonna have to do this crazy shit, you know? And, um, those videos were still some of my favorite videos and they.

• 1:05:23Speaker 01

  Are they out there right now?

• 1:05:24Speaker 02

  Yeah, I, I don't know. Um, it's called a rookie car salesman. They're, they're the best car salesman prank. That is, that's the very first one that.

• 1:05:35Speaker 01

  And this is you right here, talking to a potential, uh, like a trainee.

• 1:05:39Speaker 02

  He had just started and I just brought him into my office because I had an office. I was just a salesman, but told him I was, they wanted, the bosses wanted me to train you guys. And this is the stuff I want to go over. And I scared him to death with some of this crazy shit that I tell him.

• 1:05:53Speaker 01

  All right.

• 1:05:54Speaker 02

  Sometimes people will question, how sturdy is your car? I don't want to buy a car that's not sturdy, you know? And you gotta let them know, you gotta get behind the car and you gotta start rocking it from the front. Then you gotta go around to the back. You're pretty strong guy. You work out, work out a little bit.

• 1:06:08Speaker 06

  But I'm still pretty strong.

• 1:06:09Speaker 02

  You seem pretty strong. Probably wrestled a little bit.

• 1:06:12Speaker 06

  Actually, no, I was a musician and, um, did acting and.

• 1:06:16Speaker 02

  Probably got in a fight or something, right?

• 1:06:18Speaker 06

  Actually, no, I'm a pretty peaceful guy too.

• 1:06:20Speaker 02

  Come on, man. Too innocent, brother.

• 1:06:22Speaker 06

  I know.

• 1:06:23Speaker 02

  Well, you gotta get behind the car and you gotta push it until it starts rocking back and forth. And you gotta get it in a little rhythm. And then you gotta get on the other side and rock it. And sometimes you gotta get the customer to start rocking it with you. Okay?

• 1:06:33Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:06:34Speaker 02

  No big deal there. Um, you may have to defend yourself. Sometimes, sometimes customers. Yes. You, do you know any martial arts at all?

• 1:06:45Speaker 06

  I did take martial arts when I was younger. Um, so I would feel pretty confident.

• 1:06:49Speaker 02

  You might get swung on.

• 1:06:51Speaker 06

  Wow.

• 1:06:52Speaker 02

  It's intense. Okay?

• 1:06:55Speaker 01

  This is, wow. Keep playing.

• 1:06:57Speaker 06

  Having you?

• 1:06:58Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah. I've knocked a customer out before on the lot.

• 1:07:01Speaker 06

  Really?

• 1:07:02Speaker 02

  Right in front of the manager.

• 1:07:03Speaker 01

  Back it up 10 seconds later again.

• 1:07:06Speaker 02

  It's intense. Okay?

• 1:07:07Speaker 06

  Um, is that ever happened to you?

• 1:07:08Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah. I've knocked a customer out before on the lot.

• 1:07:11Speaker 06

  Really?

• 1:07:12Speaker 02

  Right in front of the manager. Guess what the manager did?

• 1:07:16Speaker 06

  Walked inside.

• 1:07:17Speaker 02

  He high fived me because I was swung on. Okay? I was swung on. And Ryan, you gotta be ready to defend yourself just in case something like that happens, right? So you might want to pick up a couple of classes of judo, maybe a little yoga on the side.

• 1:07:33Speaker 06

  Why did you guys swing at you? I mean, what was the story? Can you give the little background?

• 1:07:37Speaker 02

  Well, not right now. I want to just go over, hit a couple more points with you. Okay. But I took him, it wasn't, it wasn't hard. I'll tell you that much. I did a roundhouse kick on him. I used to do karate.

• 1:07:48Speaker 06

  Nice. Well, uh, what style?

• 1:07:49Speaker 02

  Um, just basic black belt.

• 1:07:52Speaker 06

  Okay.

• 1:07:54Speaker 02

  Now, how you feel, this is a tough one for everybody, but how do you feel about taking advantage of the elderly?

• 1:08:05Speaker 02

  He, he will not do that. And that's where he drew the line. He's like, no. And I was like, nah, it's all about dedication, Ryan. And dude, he was ready to quit after this interview, dude. He, he's a manager now in the car business.

• 1:08:17Speaker 01

  Oh, let's go, Ryan. Ryan or Brian?

• 1:08:20Speaker 02

  Ryan. And he, he was a preacher too. Like he was already a preacher. So.

• 1:08:25Speaker 01

  Amen.

• 1:08:25Speaker 02

  I told him he'd have to price gouge 90 year old ladies. And he said, I, I won't price gouge 90 year old ladies. You understand what I'm saying, right? And I go, nah, it's all about dedication, Ryan. Yeah.

• 1:08:38Speaker 01

  Oh, man.

• 1:08:39Speaker 02

  So I did him and then I, I did this young black kid, dude. And he was like, it's a dog eat dog world, man. And that's the funniest. So I did, and then I did this little Latino kid. He's like, I told him we were gonna have to go to a geriatric conventions because the older, the elderly are easier to sell cars to. And then we, and we went to, we went to hospitals where people just got in accidents because they will sign papers easily. I told him, he's like, are we gonna miss work?

• 1:09:10Speaker 02

  But dude, when, when, um, Rob, he's my friend now, he said, it's a dog eat dog world. It's like, so I got three versions of those and I was so proud of them and they rotted on YouTube. So I gave up for eight years, bro. I didn't make a video for eight years. I said, if, if this shit don't do it, yeah, there's Rob. I said, if, if this shit doesn't work, I give up on trying to be funny on the internet. Then TikTok comes around and my buddy said, dude, you should try your stuff on TikTok. And it was instant traction, you know? So.

• 1:09:41Speaker 01

  What was the first TikTok that, like the first one that popped off like the?

• 1:09:45Speaker 02

  For all the wrong reasons. Okay. I'm selling cars at this car dealership and these customers are speaking in their own language. And I, I always just told people how I felt. And I was like, you mind speaking English? I'm right here. Okay? He's like, we are speaking in our language. And I said, yeah, but I'm right here. They just, the internet went crazy about this racist car salesman and they, they hated me. This TikTok went so. And it was at a different dealership. I was the manager at this time and, um, some big influencer with millions of followers got on the page at this Toyota store I worked and said, this is 2021.

• 1:10:27Speaker 02

  And said, you have a racist, uh, car salesman there. The video was done it years ago at another dealership. And then this one in Vegas.

• 1:10:36Speaker 01

  Who was the influencer that did it?

• 1:10:38Speaker 02

  I'll, I never remember a name. It was just some, somebody, some girl that had millions of followers, got on the Facebook page of my dealership and tried to get me fired for that. So I pulled it down, but I had seen the excitement, but.

• 1:10:51Speaker 01

  But it was negative though, right?

• 1:10:52Speaker 02

  It was a negative. Yeah. It was all negative.

• 1:10:54Speaker 01

  But it still felt exciting?

• 1:10:56Speaker 02

  Well.

• 1:10:57Speaker 01

  Like, tell me about that.

• 1:10:57Speaker 02

  I hated arguing with people that I'm not, I'm, I'm the farthest thing from racist, you know? So I was, I wanted to argue with them, but the whole, they didn't know me yet. The internet didn't know me. They didn't know who I was. They just saw this video where I'm telling some customers to speak English, you know? Cause they were whispering in their language right in front of me and I'm the car salesman, sitting right in front of them. And so, I mean, I shouldn't have said it or whatever.

• 1:11:23Speaker 01

  Well, I don't know. I mean, it's, some of it could be a level of like, I want to, don't, if you feel like you're being excluded or something, I think, you know? And, and I don't think it even matters really, but it wasn't positive, but it still felt exciting?

• 1:11:34Speaker 02

  Um, I, I guess I just saw the, that platform. I, I was, I don't know. You're right. I don't know if it, I don't know.

• 1:11:41Speaker 01

  Like, I'm just curious as to, you know what I'm saying? Like.

• 1:11:44Speaker 02

  Well, it was still funny to the, to people that weren't offended, you know? It was a funny video and people still think it's, it's hilarious. But another one I, in Vegas, I walk up on these guys cutting bike locks off, stealing. And my whole idea with Hamcheck was he's this idiot that just goes up to people in weird situations. And I was like, hey, guys. And they're like, they're like cutting this bike lock off two dudes stealing bikes in Vegas. I'm like, hey, guys, what are you up to? And they're like, get that motherfucking camera out of my face, bitch. And so that video went viral for all the wrong reasons also.

• 1:12:21Speaker 02

  Because I walked up on some thieves stealing a bike and it was, so it, it didn't, I didn't get to use my humor till the juice for milk video. The one that most people know, it's the Home Depot one where that, um, it's, it's literally still my number one video. My favorite, my favorite video. It's still my favorite.

• 1:12:41Speaker 01

  It's your favorite one?

• 1:12:42Speaker 02

  Yeah. And it's because I finally got to use my humor in something that wasn't hateful online.

• 1:12:49Speaker 01

  Got it. Let's see it.

• 1:12:51Speaker 02

  We've been trying to get ahold of you, but the machine down at the office is broken right now. Wrong guy. Or Justin? Yeah, yeah.

• 1:13:01Speaker 02

  I wonder what happened to you, man? Bro, it's been rough, man. I ain't seen you forever. Yeah. Um.

• 1:13:07Speaker 01

  And you don't know this guy?

• 1:13:08Speaker 02

  Excuse us, sir. The, uh, the drywall with you on Newark. Dude, yeah. Still need that done or? Well, you know what? I didn't know what happened, man. I figured Brian.

• 1:13:18Speaker 06

  Contact me. Brian's always got my number.

• 1:13:20Speaker 02

  Well, dude, that guy kept fucking with me. And I got a ha- I had to put him awa- I had to put him out. So I got a big lawsuit going on right now.

• 1:13:29Speaker 06

  Oh, was that your property?

• 1:13:30Speaker 02

  I hit him with a hammer, you know, I got, I got pissed off.

• 1:13:34Speaker 06

  No shit.

• 1:13:35Speaker 02

  Yeah, I hit him upside the head with a hammer. He was out for three and a half hours, man. But he deserved it, you know?

• 1:13:42Speaker 06

  Yeah, he just saw you fucking riding and shit?

• 1:13:44Speaker 02

  He kept riding me, dude. I wasn't gonna take it.

• 1:13:47Speaker 06

  Fucking crazy dude.

• 1:13:48Speaker 01

  Scott's a legend.

• 1:13:49Speaker 02

  I'm a little worried about what's gonna happen. You ever done time?

• 1:13:52Speaker 06

  Uh, I did a little bit of time.

• 1:13:54Speaker 02

  I did too, yeah. I did it before. I'm not looking forward to going back. This fucking food sucks.

• 1:14:02Speaker 06

  Well, I ain't been to the, yeah, the workhouse.

• 1:14:06Speaker 02

  Oh dude, yeah, me too. Gladiator tanks, you know?

• 1:14:14Speaker 06

  Juice for milk.

• 1:14:15Speaker 02

  Yeah, dude, but you should be seeing it, man. Sorry.

• 1:14:21Speaker 01

  Oh, cause you trade shit in there?

• 1:14:22Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's where that whole juice for milk came from. And we both were familiar with the workhouse in Columbus, Ohio. So it's a horrible place to be. It was what I was telling you about earlier.

• 1:14:31Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:14:32Speaker 02

  But everyone's trading trays and you know, and I lost a lot of shit and I lost a lot of poker, it was spades. I lost like.

• 1:14:40Speaker 01

  In jail?

• 1:14:41Speaker 02

  Yeah, I was gambling in jail. I was losing my tray every day. I wouldn't eat for two days sometimes. Cause I lost to these guys that were probably cheating.

• 1:14:49Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:14:50Speaker 02

  You know, but that guy is a legend, dude. And uh, later I say, he said, man, I've been saying that all for six months. And I wanna hit somebody in the head with a hammer, you know, and that guy was so great. And as he walked away that night, I'll never forget. I was like, man, get that guy's contact, you know, and I've never been able to find him again, you know? Like I see a lot of these people many times after, but that was my favorite prank cause it was funny. It wasn't negative, you know?

• 1:15:23Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:15:23Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's still one of my top favorites.

• 1:15:26Speaker 01

  Do some of them get kind of uncomfortable? Like have you been in some uncomfortable situations?

• 1:15:31Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah, yeah. I, uh, one time I was surrounded by twenty gang members in Columbus, Ohio. And they made me, they wanted to kill me. One dude kept coming up behind me with a knife and my buddy was like yelling for me. To watch out and I kept turning around at the last second. So I apparently videotaped this gang, gangster that was out on parole. And he couldn't be on camera. So these girls were like, hey, you can't record us. And I was, I smarted off to them. And then I was like, boom, it was ten girls and ten dudes. The girls were, they were like, they looked like ninja turtles, man. They had white tank tops on and they were ready to kill me.

• 1:16:13Speaker 01

  Like fucking Jabberwockies or something, huh?

• 1:16:15Speaker 02

  Something like that, yeah, man. They were ready to kill me and I got lucky and got out of that situation. That was the first time I learned about double deleting on my phone. I didn't know that you had to delete it twice to make it go away.

• 1:16:28Speaker 01

  They made you do it?

• 1:16:29Speaker 02

  Yeah, right in front of them. And one dude kept, kept me from getting killed by the others. It was, uh, that was an intense situation.

• 1:16:37Speaker 01

  Was that the scariest?

• 1:16:38Speaker 02

  My two buddies that were with me, we can all fight. We love fighting, but twenty of them. And, and three times the dude came up behind me trying to stab me, bro. And I just turned around at the last minute. And my buddies were tripping on acid, dude. They, they could not, I, I could not believe that they were going through this tripping.

• 1:16:56Speaker 01

  Why did they wanna do acid if y'all were getting attacked or whatever?

• 1:16:59Speaker 02

  We met up that night. Well, they didn't take it as soon as they started getting attacked.

• 1:17:04Speaker 01

  Oh, they didn't know?

• 1:17:05Speaker 02

  No, they were tripping already. And then we were walking down, we were walking down the street and I just made this video and caught these people. So I wasn't tripping, but they were, and I could not believe it, that they went through that while tripping. Cause we all, we, we were all able to handle ourselves, but it was a bad situation. But that, I'll never forget turning around and almost seeing myself get stabbed like three times. That wasn't even a prank. I was just making a street video, which I do sometimes. I'll just record like, that, you know, just visuals. And I'll throw music to it, but.

• 1:17:41Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:17:42Speaker 02

  Um, and there's a lot of pranks. I'll catch couples cheating and they'll tell me in my DMs to please take it down. You know, and it's like, yeah, there's, there's a lot of interesting things over the years, you know?

• 1:17:57Speaker 01

  What's another, uh, of your favorite stories from pranking?

• 1:18:03Speaker 02

  Um, favorite stories is probably, I lived in this high-rise building downtown Columbus when I got. Ended up getting divorced in two thousand twenty-three and that was kinda where Johnny Hamcheck. Um, became really popular. It was like late twenty-two, twenty-three. But I had this neighbor who's worked at the prosecutor's office. He was an attorney or something. And I was, I went live on TikTok that night and it was like one in the morning and I was playing my own music. And he comes over and he pounds on the door and I was like, I think I hear something. I was like live in front of all the people and I.

• 1:18:42Speaker 01

  You weren't in a disguise?

• 1:18:44Speaker 02

  No, no, no, no. Cause I, when I do live, I just show POV still, you know, at that time. But it was my neighbor and he became, he comes over, he's like, I can't sleep. I can't sleep. And I was like, I was like, what do you mean? He's like, the bass, the bass is pounding through the walls, you know? And, uh, I was like, it's not me. And he's like, it's like one thirty in the morning. It had to be me. Um, Kevin, oh, there he is. So I took him a grapefruit to make peace. And the smile that he has when I, he says, I'll buy you these headphones. And I was like, I was like, would you?

• 1:19:24Speaker 02

  Cause there's a pair at Radio Shack I've really been wanting. And, and Radio Shack doesn't even exist, but he's like, how much are they? And I was like, five hundred dollars. Uh, you, you wanna play that?

• 1:19:35Speaker 01

  Play it, yeah.

• 1:19:36Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:19:37Speaker 06

  Look, if you'd like for the TV, if you need headphones for it, I'll buy them.

• 1:19:42Speaker 02

  How, how much are you, I don't want you to have to do that, but there's a really, I mean, there's a, there's a really nice pair at the Radio Shack. That I've been trying to get. They're like, I think it's like five hundred bucks.

• 1:19:55Speaker 06

  Five hundred?

• 1:19:56Speaker 02

  The Radio Shack brand. I brought this as a piece off, you know, Kevin? I just don't wanna have any trouble, man. You guys are really nice and.

• 1:20:07Speaker 06

  But we're just, I, I realize your schedule's gonna be different during the summer. I know that, but it's just been, it's just been brutal last three months.

• 1:20:16Speaker 01

  And what type of music are you playing?

• 1:20:19Speaker 02

  I, I, I make beats and I do, I've been doing, I mean, I was in a rock band for years and then, but I got into making beats. In two thousand six and.

• 1:20:29Speaker 01

  Were you using two at the time?

• 1:20:31Speaker 02

  Um, you know, it, it depends. My life has been in and out of rehab like forever.

• 1:20:38Speaker 01

  Cause a lot of times people that are making beats are using.

• 1:20:40Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:20:42Speaker 02

  No, but my best stuff came when I was fresh out of rehab, man. I had all this energy and yeah, so.

• 1:20:47Speaker 01

  Oh, that rehab fire, bro.

• 1:20:49Speaker 02

  Dude, I'm telling you, man, there's nothing like it. I mean, so grateful.

• 1:20:53Speaker 01

  Yeah, sometimes you'll go to do thirty days in rehab just to get that, that seven hours of feeling like you can make anything happen.

• 1:21:00Speaker 02

  You do, like, it's, it's a shame, but you feel, it's called a pink cloud is what they call it. And it's real because this past time. When I just quit smoking weed and drinking a few months ago, almost three months. And I mean, I was on a pink cloud for a while and then like life just hits you and like every day, every day is not as glorious. As it was, but.

• 1:21:23Speaker 01

  Somebody spray paints [BLEEP] or whatever on your Ford Taurus and then shit starts getting shaky.

• 1:21:28Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:21:28Speaker 01

  Yeah, story of my life.

• 1:21:32Speaker 02

  You still drive that Taurus?

• 1:21:34Speaker 01

  It got repossessed.

• 1:21:35Speaker 02

  Damn.

• 1:21:36Speaker 01

  Not by the police, but I had a neighbor that was like a seancer or whatever. But she, uh, she put like a spell on her, a fucking spell on it and that, and dude, it worked, bro. She put a spell on that bitch, dude, or a hex or whatever it's called, like an unpositive spell. And bro, that bitch shut down, bro. And it would shut down. I think she probably had like a replica of it at home. And she would put a pin in it or whatever. Like she had one of those, uh, what's it called?

• 1:22:05Speaker 02

  Voodoo dolls.

• 1:22:06Speaker 01

  Like a voodoo.

• 1:22:06Speaker 02

  Voodoo car doll.

• 1:22:07Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:22:08Speaker 02

  That's a great idea.

• 1:22:09Speaker 01

  She had a voodoo car, dude. And every time she'd put a pin in that bitch, it would shut down, bro. Dude, that reminds me of my dad, bro. When we were kids, the hood on his car weighed, I think almost seventeen thousand million pounds, right? So we'd open that thing up and he would just get in there and the engine would be, everything would be spinning. He had like fan belts hooked to the everything. The radio, everything, dude. And, uh, he would get under there and just spray WD-40 under the whole thing like this, bro. To spray and keep it going, bro.

• 1:22:39Speaker 02

  Dude, how, did you, uh, do you guys have nice cars when you're young?

• 1:22:45Speaker 01

  No, no, no, no. My mom had a Dodge Neon. We, I'd go sleep in it at night. It was so nice. Pull it up. It was purple, semi-purple.

• 1:22:54Speaker 02

  Dodge Neon?

• 1:22:55Speaker 01

  Yeah, remember them?

• 1:22:55Speaker 02

  Oh, hell yeah.

• 1:22:56Speaker 01

  They were nice.

• 1:22:57Speaker 02

  I sold, I sold tons of those, man.

• 1:23:00Speaker 01

  Yeah, pull that bottom left one right there.

• 1:23:02Speaker 02

  Oh my gosh.

• 1:23:03Speaker 01

  I've got that bitch. I'd go sit in and put the seat down and I'd sleep in that bitch at night. It was nicer than being in our house.

• 1:23:08Speaker 02

  Are you serious?

• 1:23:09Speaker 01

  In our apartment, yeah.

• 1:23:10Speaker 02

  Damn.

• 1:23:11Speaker 01

  That bitch was so nice. And it had like multi-colored fabric on the seats or whatever. It was nice.

• 1:23:15Speaker 02

  Yeah, I remember those. I mean, I sold cars since ninety-four, ninety-five, so I haven't heard the Neon. I haven't heard the Dodge Neon forever, man.

• 1:23:24Speaker 01

  They got discontinued. I think they were flammable. I don't know if that's true, but they were pretty semi-flammable.

• 1:23:29Speaker 02

  They were catching on fire for a while.

• 1:23:31Speaker 01

  Yeah. And people were like, that's for God or whatever. And I was like, I don't think, that has nothing to do with God or whatever.

• 1:23:37Speaker 02

  God's lighting them up.

• 1:23:38Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:23:40Speaker 02

  He should burn a lot of other cars too, then. My dad brought home an Eagle Premier, man.

• 1:23:46Speaker 01

  Really?

• 1:23:47Speaker 02

  And he bought it without my mom and I know how that is, like.

• 1:23:50Speaker 01

  When a man goes and buys a car without the wife, that's.

• 1:23:54Speaker 02

  Crazy story is I broke the antenna off right that night, man.

• 1:23:58Speaker 01

  What were you doing?

• 1:23:59Speaker 02

  He was so pissed. I was just bling, you know, and it was one of those. And he beat my ass after that. I'll never forget, but um. It had power windows. I'll never forget the first car with power windows, you know, we thought we were doing something, man.

• 1:24:13Speaker 01

  Oh, my dream in life was to have a sunroof.

• 1:24:16Speaker 02

  Uh huh. Yeah, it's so funny, dude. Thousands on the stupidest things, like minivans with sunroofs. Like people are just, you're so cool driving down the road and with the $5,000 extra.

• 1:24:27Speaker 01

  What's the biggest racket in auto, in auto sales? What's like one of the biggest rackets?

• 1:24:33Speaker 02

  Oh, man, it's, it's the, it's the warranties on the back in the, in the finance office. A hundred percent. It's a, you don't need them on a lot of cars and then a lot of them that they sell, I mean, um, they don't really cover, cover it when something happens, so. It's a, it's a big, uh, it's a big thing in the car business. That's where you make all your money at though.

• 1:24:59Speaker 01

  On the warranty?

• 1:25:00Speaker 02

  Yeah, on the warranty, yeah.

• 1:25:02Speaker 01

  And what about that rubberize and they used to rubberize the bottom or whatever?

• 1:25:05Speaker 02

  Yeah, the clear, the, what was it called?

• 1:25:07Speaker 01

  A clear coat?

• 1:25:08Speaker 02

  Yeah, they had a Z bar and shit, right?

• 1:25:11Speaker 01

  What?

• 1:25:11Speaker 02

  Yeah, they called it Z barred or under, yeah, undercoating. I don't know, that was, I think that was more in the eighties and shit, to be honest. I think they started putting that shit on everything.

• 1:25:22Speaker 01

  A clear coat, you fucking cousin in that bitch for $30, bro.

• 1:25:25Speaker 02

  Yeah. They light the hood on fire and shit nowadays, man.

• 1:25:29Speaker 01

  Do that. The Asians, bro, would do that. When I was in college, they'd light the hood on fire and drive real fast.

• 1:25:35Speaker 02

  Really?

• 1:25:36Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:25:37Speaker 02

  No way.

• 1:25:38Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:25:38Speaker 02

  That sounds, that sounds awesome, especially if you're tripping.

• 1:25:41Speaker 01

  It was like a crispy rice rocket or whatever it was called.

• 1:25:44Speaker 02

  Really?

• 1:25:44Speaker 01

  Yeah, pretty cool, pretty cool shit.

• 1:25:47Speaker 02

  Dude, that reminds me of, uh, when I was in DC, I was, you ever seen the show The Wire?

• 1:25:52Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, that Baltimore show or whatever?

• 1:25:54Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, it was about the dope, the dope game in, in Maryland, I think, and, um, I was, when, when I, I was doing good in Washington DC for a while and then I, when I relapsed, man, I was going into the most dangerous ghettos in the country. This is back when DC, it was 2002, but I, I, I have a dope dealer in my car and here comes this cop cruising slow and the dope dealer would be like, put your seat back. So we, we'd both put our seats all the way back, like there's no seats in the car, just close our eyes like while the cop went real slow. So he's just looking at a car like, no seats in that one. Everything looks normal here.

• 1:26:37Speaker 02

  And it worked, but there was, it was, they were used to it. They're like, put your seat back.

• 1:26:41Speaker 01

  So both seats are all the way back?

• 1:26:42Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's no headrests at all. And I just thought that was the craziest shit, man.

• 1:26:47Speaker 01

  I love that shit, dude. God.

• 1:26:49Speaker 02

  No, that was nuts, cause it was just like the show The Wire. I, I'd walk up in sandals, dude. And, you know, I'm a mark just waiting to get killed and.

• 1:27:00Speaker 01

  And were you pranking or were you scoring dope?

• 1:27:02Speaker 02

  No, no, this was, I was just trying to buy dope, man.

• 1:27:04Speaker 01

  What were you on? At that time, what were you using?

• 1:27:06Speaker 02

  So I was a heroin addict and then I was trying to find heroin and I couldn't find heroin. And I was like, give me the next best thing. And I started smoking crack in DC, man.

• 1:27:17Speaker 01

  Crypto?

• 1:27:17Speaker 02

  Crypto crack, yeah. It's just crypto. I started smoking crypto in DC. And, uh, yeah, man.

• 1:27:24Speaker 01

  You did? So, and it was one night you were trying to buy heroin, you couldn't find it?

• 1:27:28Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:27:29Speaker 01

  And you settled for some crack?

• 1:27:30Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:27:31Speaker 01

  I always wanted to smoke crack, man. What is it like?

• 1:27:33Speaker 02

  Well, I could never do it without heroin. It's an explosive buzz. I hate, I hate speed buzzes really myself. I'm a, I like to be relaxed, you know, like.

• 1:27:45Speaker 01

  The opioids, yeah.

• 1:27:46Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, that's why I liked opiates, you know, that's why I liked dope and, um, but when you combine the two, it's just an explosive buzz. I used to dial 911 on my phone, man. And have it ready, thinking that if I start, if I start dying, I can still hit the button, you know? Like, I swear. I mean, cause I used a loan, you know, in the garage, you know? I mean, my wife would go to work, I'd be off, dude. I mean, addiction took me some really low places, um, but we don't have to get into that. It's, I mean, I don't care. I'm, I'm cool with talking about it all, but, uh.

• 1:28:21Speaker 01

  Were you ever using and also in between times when you were filming? Like were both things happening in your life at the same time? Like you ever get so high, you thought you were filming somebody? So like you get fucking confused that you, you don't even know who's being pranked or what's going on?

• 1:28:34Speaker 02

  I was, um, I, I relapsed and after 13 years sober, I had a surgery and ended up taking painkillers again. And this was while I was ham check, you know, this was while in 2023 and kind of the prime of ham check. I, uh, I started getting strung out again, you know, and I was, I was, I was out there pranking, um, on, high on, you know, on pills that were laced with fentanyl and shit, you know, and, uh.

• 1:29:05Speaker 01

  Were you ever dozed off during a prank or whatever?

• 1:29:08Speaker 02

  I don't remember specifically, but dude, I did doze off. I hit my head on the counter like so many times. That shit was so stupid.

• 1:29:17Speaker 01

  What counter? What are you talking about?

• 1:29:19Speaker 02

  So I'd have my plate, I'd have my plate up in the, um, cabinet. That shit was so powerful that just a grant, like I'd buy $50 worth of that stuff and.

• 1:29:29Speaker 01

  Of what? Of fentanyl?

• 1:29:30Speaker 02

  Fentanyl, yeah. And it would, it would be white powder and I would, just the tiniest little speck would get me high for all day, you know, because I had been clean for 13 years, you know? And, uh, but you, you end up falling, falling, falling over. So I'd have the cabinet door open and, and then you just like, you start, you just fall and I'd hit my head on the sharp part of the cabinet. Um, and I'd wear a toboggan to work, you know, like and pull it down.

• 1:30:04Speaker 01

  Like a snow hat?

• 1:30:05Speaker 02

  Yeah, even in the summer.

• 1:30:09Speaker 01

  Cause you had fucking.

• 1:30:10Speaker 02

  Yeah, cause I had a gash.

• 1:30:11Speaker 01

  Cause you had fentanyl head from the cabinet?

• 1:30:13Speaker 02

  Hiccups too, and my girlfriend, um, my girlfriend would always bust me out, cause I had hiccups, but a lot of videos.

• 1:30:21Speaker 01

  Oh, you mean fentanyl gave you hiccups?

• 1:30:22Speaker 02

  Yeah, for some reason it gives you hiccups and it was funny. So there's, there's some videos where I got hiccups. I'm like, oh man, I remember those days. But yeah, I, I did a lot of pranks while high. But I'll tell you what, when I went from no drugs or alcohol to smoking weed again, cause the first step for me going down the bad road was I started, allowed myself to smoke weed again. And, um, and I was laughing at my videos. I was like, oh my gosh, this is, now I realize, you know, all these stoners are laughing at my videos. It is kind of funny to watch them high, you know? But I couldn't make them high because you're paranoid, you know? I'm like, they see the camera. I'm, I'm like, I'm killing all these pranks halfway through the prank.

• 1:31:07Speaker 02

  Because I was like thinking that they saw the camera and I just would hesitate. I couldn't make good videos. Like everything went downhill when I started smoking weed and drinking again. Cause the best stuff that ham check did was during my 13 years of sobriety, like, and I'm way sharper now. You can think on your feet a little bit better, you know?

• 1:31:30Speaker 01

  Yeah. Um, yeah, it's your God given abilities, man, to be able to, those are really your best ones.

• 1:31:36Speaker 02

  Yeah, all that, all the drugs did was give you bigger, like even bigger balls than I already had to just infiltrate some crazy scenarios because I was numb, you know, like. But one time I pranked this, um, guy in Columbus and, uh, he harassed my brother in North Carolina, like started all these death threats, like, um, that was a crazy story because my brother called me in the morning and, uh, I did these pranks where I'd ask people with how long it's been or like, what, at what point in their life did everything go downhill and they became homeless here in Columbus?

• 1:32:18Speaker 01

  I've seen those, yeah.

• 1:32:19Speaker 02

  But I never go, I never actually talk to homeless people. I go after, I talk to people that are obviously not homeless, you know? This guy, he's this real short dude with, um, this girl who ended up being like some Playboy, um, OnlyFans model. And he like sets himself up for the interview and shows off his watch and he's like, makes this stance and he's ready. And I hit him with the homeless thing and he's like. He's like, me, but they got so offended that they, they looked up my name and then they found my brother's name, who I follow, my older brother, and they started harassing him, like threatening my brother. And that, that, that was, that was when ham checking leaked

• 1:33:03Speaker 02

  into my personal life. And I was like, I mean, it's still very touchy, you know? I don't like embarrassing people. And I know that sometimes I put people's family on the internet and shit. It's not, it's not always cracked up to be, I tell you.

• 1:33:18Speaker 01

  Yeah, that seems like the tough part. Did you, are there any videos that were really great pranks, but you decided not to put them up because it was just too much?

• 1:33:25Speaker 02

  Well, yeah, there's one in particular where I'm asking this guy, my normal prank, it's like in the middle of the night, it's like one or two in the morning in Columbus, Ohio. And I asked people for small favors, you know? And I asked him to help me get some Jordans down off a power line, you know? And, and he says, he, he says, no, but I'll give you a blowjob, you know? He's like, I got nothing but a mouth, buddy.

• 1:33:50Speaker 01

  That's what he said?

• 1:33:51Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, he said it. He, he literally-

• 1:33:54Speaker 01

  The old bird feeder.

• 1:33:55Speaker 02

  He offered, he offered to give me a blowjob like four times in one video.

• 1:34:01Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:34:02Speaker 02

  And it was a really funny video and it was going, it went viral. And then I got emails saying, hey, man, take this off the internet, you know, I'm gonna sue you. And I, I never pay attention to those. I get those a lot, you know? But I do have a heart and I, I started looking at the guy's social media and I, I saw pictures of him and his mom. And I was like, man, this poor lady has to know that her son's out there in the middle of the night asking people if he can blow them, you know? Which is just a strange thing to do, to ask a stranger, you know?

• 1:34:37Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, I think it is. I mean, well, I think some people, they call it like, I, I think in the gay culture or whatever, it's like they call it bird feeding or whatever, because, um, my buddy's brother's gay and he's been gay for a pretty good, good amount of time, I think, it seems like anyway. And he, uh, for Halloween, him and his buddies always paint, get dressed up like bird feeders. They turn themselves into like, they'll get like, like, kind of like a wood thing put on their head with their face. And it's like got a little thing where the bird can land. It's like, you know, they make themselves bird feeder. They look like birdhouses.

• 1:35:10Speaker 02

  Cause the bird always has their mouth open?

• 1:35:12Speaker 01

  Oh, birdhouses, bro. They look like birdhouses. Yeah. So your bird can land in there.

• 1:35:16Speaker 02

  Oh, wow.

• 1:35:17Speaker 01

  So that's how they do it. So I think it's part of that culture is being out at night looking for those night birds or whatever. Maybe, I don't know. But, um,

• 1:35:24Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's-

• 1:35:26Speaker 01

  But damn dude, yeah, that's, so the guy was offering you a couple of blowjobs out there at night?

• 1:35:30Speaker 02

  Yeah. And the video was very entertaining, but I felt a little bit bad.

• 1:35:36Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:35:36Speaker 02

  And then, so I would take it, I would take it down. And then I'd get, things would get slow on the channel and I would, I would say, well, we call it, the video was called BJ Balboni, you know?

• 1:35:50Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:35:51Speaker 02

  Of course. And, uh, things would get slow on the ham check channel. And I'd be, I'd be like, man, I need some action. I need to grow these followers, man. I need, I need a viral video. So I, in my head, I was like, release BJ Balboni. And, and every time I'd play it, it would go viral. And then he would email me again and say, hey, man, I just started this new job and everyone's coming up to me saying that they saw me on the internet.

• 1:36:17Speaker 01

  It is, I mean-

• 1:36:18Speaker 02

  People see themselves a lot on the internet.

• 1:36:21Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:36:21Speaker 02

  On TV.

• 1:36:22Speaker 01

  Yeah. I mean, cause some of it's kind of exploitive. Do you feel like that? I mean, do you feel, like, what does that feel like?

• 1:36:29Speaker 02

  I don't, I look at myself like more of a journalist sometimes because I catch a lot of things happening, you know, um, that I just happen to run into. And, but I do, I don't, I don't always like it. It's not, it's definitely not that easy to do. Cause I, I have a really soft heart and I don't like hurting people's feelings. So I try to avoid that. It's hard to, to walk the line of, um, funny without, that's why the, the, the construction pranks are so, they're popular and they're very harmless. Most of the construction bosses love it and they're waiting to get pranked by a ham check with the chains, you know?

• 1:37:11Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:37:12Speaker 02

  I've had a lot of those and-

• 1:37:13Speaker 01

  With the six inch chains or the six foot chains?

• 1:37:15Speaker 02

  It started with six and a half inch cables in the early days and then it evolved to chains, you know? And, and, uh, yeah, it's now six and a half foot chains.

• 1:37:26Speaker 01

  Has there been videos that you didn't put out that you're just like, oh, this is too, something's too wrong with this or this is?

• 1:37:31Speaker 02

  Yeah, I ha- I have, I have a whole bunch of them. Um, I was in this, one night, I got this hotel, it was late at night and I was at the casino gambling all night. And, uh, so I just booked this hotel in the worst part of town. I didn't mean to, $50 hotel or something, bro. So I hear this baby, oh, it's the biggest cockroach hotel ever, man. This is a video I, I want to play one day. I'll save these videos for like certain times, but-

• 1:38:02Speaker 01

  For your wedding or whatever?

• 1:38:04Speaker 02

  Yeah, at the wedding, I'll probably play this one. Cause there's a baby crying all night and I heard this baby screaming and I finally looked out the door like in the morning. And it was this little black baby that looked just like buckwheat, you know? Um, and he was out locked outside of this hotel room, man, all night long.

• 1:38:27Speaker 01

  You think he forgot his, had his keys or whatever?

• 1:38:29Speaker 02

  Those keys never work, you know? That's probably the situation. Dude, how many times you get up to your hotel and those damn keys don't work and you got all your shit, dude? I get so pissed, bro. And this-

• 1:38:42Speaker 01

  And he was just out there all night?

• 1:38:43Speaker 02

  His, his mom left. His mom left him and I, and so the video's crazy because this crackhead lady comes into my room and I'm doing all this prank on her. She's telling me all about the mom that leaves her kid all the time. And it was, this is the saddest situation. And then I ended up having to yell at the, um, hotel lady because she wouldn't, she wouldn't call the police, you know? And the mom came back and I gave her a hard time, you know? I got it all on video, but I, I, I recently got pulled over and arrested for smoking a joint in Pennsylvania. This was like last year. I just got, I'm off, I'm still on probation in Pennsylvania, but I pranked the cops while I was doing my sobriety test.

• 1:39:28Speaker 01

  Yeah?

• 1:39:28Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:39:29Speaker 01

  Did they know it was you?

• 1:39:30Speaker 02

  No. Um, and I've been waiting to release that footage, but I know everyone's gonna get the body cam footage once they see and once I say this right now. But it's still funny as hell because they're telling me to hold my foot up like three and a half. I'm like, can I, can I hold it six and a half inch? I was like, is Officer Balboni still work here? And I literally got my phone back from him. I got arrested, but I got all this funny footage of fucking with them while I'm doing my sobriety test. They're like, how much weed's in the car? I'm like, 2.83 grams. I just bought it at the dispensary. I knew exactly how much I had in the car, you know? But it was funny that I was sneaky enough to, um, get all this footage of them while they were making me do all the impossible

• 1:40:15Speaker 02

  tests, by the way. There's nobody is gonna be able to pass.

• 1:40:18Speaker 01

  Yeah. Some of it's like admit your grandfather's a [BLEEP] or whatever. And you're like, what?

• 1:40:23Speaker 02

  Dude, how did that become a question?

• 1:40:24Speaker 01

  Yeah, dude, we don't even know.

• 1:40:27Speaker 02

  Dude.

• 1:40:27Speaker 01

  We don't even know for sure. That's, it's like, yeah, some of this shit is crazy, bro.

• 1:40:33Speaker 02

  It's impossible.

• 1:40:34Speaker 01

  It's like, yeah, name seven black guys, you're brave enough to tickle or whatever. And you're like, how can you even do that? Some of the, it's like impossible, dude.

• 1:40:42Speaker 02

  It is, dude.

• 1:40:43Speaker 01

  You know? Name six friends of yours your mom would smash if you fucking left her home for the weekend, you know? Be like, who are they?

• 1:40:50Speaker 02

  Roger. Mike.

• 1:40:52Speaker 01

  Yeah. Damian.

• 1:40:54Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah, of course.

• 1:40:56Speaker 01

  Um, have you faced any lawsuits? Have you faced any actual lawsuits?

• 1:41:01Speaker 02

  Um, fake, just fake ones, you know? Like people send, um, emails, but I ignore them and they go away, you know? Just like the bills, you know? I mean, I have, yeah, I, people, I always look and consider, okay, so this pastor, this is a funny one. This pastor flips me off, man. It's a, it's called the jaywalking pastor. I didn't know he was a pastor till his whole congregation begged me to take it off the internet. He made a public apology for this video.

• 1:41:34Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 1:41:35Speaker 02

  And I was like, no, if, if, if that's the worst thing you get caught doing in life was flipping me off. So he gets real mad. I said, I saw you jaywalking. You just tried it three times. And this bus almost hits him. And he has Starbucks and his, and he's on the phone. And I'm like, you're jaywalking, man. I saw you do it. And, and he's like,

• 1:41:55Speaker 01

  nah.

• 1:41:56Speaker 02

  He gave me the most angry, um, bird ever. And it was, it's, it's, it goes viral every time I post it, you know?

• 1:42:05Speaker 01

  The angry bird of Christ or whatever?

• 1:42:07Speaker 02

  Basically. But I just couldn't believe how, that's not a big deal, bro. If, if you, if, if that's the worst thing that they put on the internet of me is flipping somebody off. I'm like, hell yeah, you know?

• 1:42:21Speaker 01

  Angry jaywalking pastor throwback. Let me see it.

• 1:42:26Speaker 02

  It was a good one. Cause the congregation begged me to take it off, but I don't take off ones like this.

• 1:42:44Speaker 02

  Sir, you're jaywalking.

• 1:42:47Speaker 02

  I just saw you. You did it three times.

• 1:42:51Speaker 02

  Sir! How dare you?

• 1:42:56Speaker 02

  Come over here right now.

• 1:43:00Speaker 02

  I wanna have a word with you, buddy.

• 1:43:02Speaker 01

  Does he come back over?

• 1:43:04Speaker 02

  No, but I always like to talk to people about what they've said or done. Then I get on a bus and make another little clip. I said, "Did you see what happened to that guy?" But I will follow a lady that flipped me off two hours away to her job and just ask her why she's so miserable. Like, I am the crazy guy that will have a conversation about your craziness, you know? I just love to make people explain themselves, you know?

• 1:43:35Speaker 01

  Yeah, is that what it is? What is it about the pranking? Like, what is it that you get out of it? What is it that you're trying, like?

• 1:43:44Speaker 01

  You just said, like, "I want people to explain themselves," right? Like, yeah, I'm just, I'm curious about what that is, cuz it's hard sometimes to joke with people. It's hard to keep a straight face. It's hard to keep an energy of a prank, right? It's really tough.

• 1:44:00Speaker 02

  Um, yeah, to answer your question, I just like watching humans in action. Like, that's my biggest thing, is just watching the crazy things that humans do, you know? So I like, I like watching their reactions. As far as calling people out on stuff, like, I'm gonna ask the lady that sat me right next to this loud table when there's eighty, you know, I, I, but I will just ask people. I don't wanna punish them or anything, but I wanna, I want them to realize that it was stupid what they just did, you know? And I wanna ask, like, why they did it. Why are you so miserable?

• 1:44:41Speaker 02

  You know, and somebody's cussing you out in traffic or something, you know? I just like to pull up. This guy had a gun pointed at me, okay? I thought it was his phone. It was a road rage situation, and he was cussing me out, flipping me off, so I got my camera out and I started filming the early part of him cussing me out, cussing me out. And then I followed him. He pulls into this parking lot. I'm thinking, "I'm gonna be recorded. I know the guy's gonna get his phone out," so I put, I put this hat on and shades, and I put the six-and-a-half-foot chains around my neck, and I walk up to his car. And I'm recording, and I'm like, I'm like, dude, I'm like,

• 1:45:22Speaker 02

  you think, I said, "Why don't you say that to me now?" You know, I was like, "What, what were you saying back there?" You know? And, uh, I walk up closer, and I think he's holding his phone, but he has a gun pointed right up at the window. I never touch people or invade their space, but man, that was a crazy situation. So I just, I was just calling him out. He pulled into a parking lot, and I just walked up to his window. Making, everything's making a video, you know, like? And that's, that's, that's ridiculous, too. I'm recording too much, man. I gotta, I gotta take a break.

• 1:45:58Speaker 01

  If you're going that far, where you're pushing things to the edge, like, that somebody's actually pointing a gun at you?

• 1:46:02Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:46:03Speaker 01

  And you're still right there? Did you keep talking?

• 1:46:06Speaker 02

  I said, "Are you, you're actually pointing," yeah, the video's pretty funny, cuz I was like, "You're pointing a gun at me? On this beautiful day?" I was like, "Get out of the car and give me a hug, buddy." I was like, "You need a hug." So I kept going, although I was high for like, two days, realizing that I almost got shot in the face. If I was an idiot that touched people, I don't ever do that.

• 1:46:27Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:46:27Speaker 02

  I mean, I'm, I'm, I'm not like, ever gonna invade somebody, touch somebody. I don't ever do that.

• 1:46:34Speaker 01

  But that's wild to think that, like, a few years ago, if you'd have said, "Hey, will you keep pranking somebody if they pointed, if they have a gun out?" You probably would've said, "No."

• 1:46:43Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:46:43Speaker 01

  And then here you are, at that space.

• 1:46:45Speaker 02

  I, I knew it would make the video better, so I kept talking to him, but I wasn't afraid, but later on, I realized that if I was dumb enough to have touched that guy or gotten closer.

• 1:46:57Speaker 01

  There he is.

• 1:46:58Speaker 02

  David, you don't know.

• 1:47:00Speaker 03

  Look, you've not hit me three times.

• 1:47:02Speaker 02

  No, I didn't. I knew what I was doing.

• 1:47:06Speaker 02

  You got a gun? You're threatening me with a gun right now?

• 1:47:08Speaker 03

  I'm not threatening you with any stuff.

• 1:47:09Speaker 02

  You're holding a gun, sir!

• 1:47:11Speaker 03

  You're the one that followed me.

• 1:47:12Speaker 02

  I asked you if you wanted a hug, and you-

• 1:47:14Speaker 03

  I don't need a hug.

• 1:47:14Speaker 02

  You have a gun right now.

• 1:47:16Speaker 03

  I don't need a hug, just move on.

• 1:47:18Speaker 02

  Buddy, let me give you a hug.

• 1:47:20Speaker 03

  No, move on.

• 1:47:22Speaker 01

  People like, people are so disconnected now, uh...

• 1:47:26Speaker 02

  Dude, the world is a mess right now, bro.

• 1:47:28Speaker 01

  But do you think you're helping it here, or do you?

• 1:47:32Speaker 02

  No, but he did deserve, all I did was, I was behind, I was just riding his bumper, and the guy went crazy at the beginning, saying, "Fuck you," you know, just effing me, flipping me off for, for barely getting close to his car. I didn't even touch his car.

• 1:47:53Speaker 01

  In your car, that'd be a lot.

• 1:47:55Speaker 02

  But it was because I was distracted, looking at my phone, and almost hit him, and he saw it, like, you know how you almost hit somebody over and over again? Dude, I'm telling you, man, I'm gonna take a break, uh, from, from all this stuff, you know? It's, it's been, it's been a long journey, and it's exciting to, uh, say that I'm gonna do something different now, you know?

• 1:48:18Speaker 01

  What's the toughest part of the country to prank in?

• 1:48:21Speaker 02

  New York is tough, man. They, they've seen it all, and they're not having my shit. I've still gotten some videos there. Um, the first Balboni Ben video was in Central Park. New York is tough, though. I get spit out pretty, so it's always a challenge in places like that.

• 1:48:41Speaker 02

  LA's kind of like that, but I do pretty, I do pretty well. It's these towns in the middle of nowhere. The guy's got cows and horses, and, you know, you wanna find some small towns in the middle of nowhere. That's, that's where I find the best stuff, you know?

• 1:48:57Speaker 01

  Well, you feel like people have patience here, they have time.

• 1:48:59Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:49:00Speaker 01

  People got time for you, you know? It's the thing that makes small towns great, too.

• 1:49:03Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:49:04Speaker 01

  It's that people have time for you.

• 1:49:06Speaker 02

  They're chill, they're laid back, and they'll give everyone the time of day. You're right. They'll listen to some stupidity shit, you know?

• 1:49:13Speaker 01

  Is there, are there some places you cannot prank cuz there are laws against it?

• 1:49:18Speaker 02

  Well, apparently, have you ever heard of the one-party consent, two-party consent?

• 1:49:24Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:49:25Speaker 02

  How stupid is the rule, one-party consent? So one, one person in the conversation has the consent to prank.

• 1:49:34Speaker 01

  A one-party consent law means that you can legally record a conversation, such as a phone call or in-person talk, as long as at least one person involved in the conversation gives permission. If you are part of the conversation, you can record it without telling the other person.

• 1:49:49Speaker 02

  You gave yourself consent, basically.

• 1:49:53Speaker 01

  So what, just, so as long, so you could be doing it, they don't know, it's okay?

• 1:49:58Speaker 01

  Right?

• 1:49:58Speaker 02

  Yeah. But out in California, like, um, apparently, it's a two-party state, I think, um, so...

• 1:50:05Speaker 01

  You generally must be a participant in the conversation to record it under one-party rules. So I couldn't record two other people having a conversation secretly. Secret, yeah, here it says, "secretly recording a conversation that you are not a part of is usually illegal." If you're calling someone in a different state, the strictest law applies. If you call someone in an all-party, which is two-party consent state, from a one-party state, you typically need permission from all parties.

• 1:50:33Speaker 02

  I, I will say, I, I'm banned from all the urology places in Columbia. I pranked my doctor about the ball-dropping surgery, and, um, it brings up a good topic, because I was unsure if I was able to record these real doctor's appointments, but apparently you are, you know? The bigwigs called me and asked me to take down these doctor's appointment videos that were, um, some of the funniest shit ever.

• 1:51:07Speaker 02

  So these were, this was my regular doctor that I went to, urologist, you know, and,

• 1:51:14Speaker 02

  you know, being on testosterone as I got older, you know, the doctor told me, you know, "You've done hard drugs your whole life, you know, you need to be on testosterone."

• 1:51:22Speaker 01

  Yeah, your bag's cooked or whatever.

• 1:51:24Speaker 02

  Well, yeah, and I was concerned about my balls getting smaller, you know, and, uh, so I was sitting there, I was, I just had the idea that I'm gonna ask him to lower my balls for me, you know, during my actual doctor's visit. So it was my real doctor. People think, "Man, you're crazy. You go and set up doctor's appointments to make pranks," and I was like, "No, I just prank while I'm at my doctor." So I pranked this doctor so many times. The very last one, this is the compilation, I think, is this,

• 1:51:58Speaker 02

  the very last one, he said, there's one that shows them all, cuz I pranked him over and over again, but at the last one, he goes, "Can you put your phone down for a second?" And he says, "Are you the one that put me on TikTok?" But it was after, and I, I, I got banned from a lot of, uh...

• 1:52:17Speaker 01

  Urology clinics?

• 1:52:18Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, but...

• 1:52:20Speaker 01

  Type shit.

• 1:52:20Speaker 02

  Once again, I wanna talk to him about seeing if he can get my balls to hang lower, because I've been asking him for months, and I want my balls to hang lower, you know, cuz I don't feel like they hang low like they used to. And all my buddies' balls hang like, way lower than mine. Okay, what point did you make today? Well, I mean, I've been talking to you for a while about this, and I don't know what I gotta do to get you to help me with it, but I really want my balls to hang lower like they used to. You know, my,

• 1:52:54Speaker 02

  you know, remember, there's gotta be a way you can drop them down a little bit, right? Okay, okay. Because my buddies, their balls hang a lot lower than mine, and-

• 1:53:06Speaker 01

  And this is an Asian doctor?

• 1:53:08Speaker 02

  That you can give me, I'm pretty sure.

• 1:53:12Speaker 02

  I had never seen him till the last- Can you feel your balls? Barely.

• 1:53:21Speaker 02

  Let's take a look. Is there any way I can get my balls lowered? I've heard that people are doing that now.

• 1:53:27Speaker 06

  Uh, I don't know. I've not heard that surgery.

• 1:53:30Speaker 02

  Some of my buddies' balls hang a lot lower than mine, you know, and I just wanna make sure that, you know, we're all on the same- This is my general practice.

• 1:53:37Speaker 06

  Well, some people have, uh, larger scrotums, a longer scrotums, and so it allows for the ball, the balls, the testicles to come down further. Um, and then some people don't have as, uh, low, or don't have as kind of loose of a scrotum.

• 1:53:50Speaker 02

  I know, see what I got, yeah.

• 1:53:51Speaker 06

  Yeah, so, and everybody's different, and there's no right way or wrong way.

• 1:53:59Speaker 02

  Hey, hey, hey. Hey, how are you, doc? Hey, sorry to wait. Oh, gosh, jeez. You're tired? A little bit. Okay. Ah, nice, fresh blend you got there.

• 1:54:12Speaker 02

  I'm still trying to get my balls lowered, you know? Like, I'm trying to get them dropped a couple inches, you know? Like we were talking about last time?

• 1:54:23Speaker 02

  Okay. Remember? Yeah. You said you might be able to lower them a little bit. Let's take a look. Okay. Here's the thing, that maybe I could get them smooth dowel. Cause some of my buddy's balls are a little bit smoother than mine. I have a lot of wrinkles.

• 1:54:41Speaker 02

  Let me take a look. Okay, but remember I talked to you about the lowering my balls a little bit?

• 1:54:51Speaker 02

  Can you put the phone down? Yeah. Are you the one? That put me on TikTok.

• 1:54:58Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 1:54:58Speaker 02

  Oh, sorry.

• 1:54:59Speaker 01

  What did he say? Was he hurt by it?

• 1:55:02Speaker 02

  Yeah, oh yeah. He said, are you the one that put me on TikTok? And I denied it, of course, and got through the appointment. But they called me up, the like CEO and, and I got a letter in the mail saying I, I can't go to any of the Ohio Health or whatever. But the funniest part about the first one, when I, when I quit recording, he says, the first thing I want to tell you is stop looking at your buddy's balls. And I was like, man, if I would have got that, I just didn't get that, but I tell the story. It was the funniest shit ever.

• 1:55:31Speaker 01

  And did you ever, did you have to show them your balls actually sometimes too?

• 1:55:34Speaker 02

  Yeah, but it's part of the deal. I go, I mean, I show my balls to the doctor, you know, but.

• 1:55:38Speaker 01

  I don't care.

• 1:55:39Speaker 02

  And I never got an extra appointment for a video.

• 1:55:42Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:55:43Speaker 02

  I just went to my appointments.

• 1:55:45Speaker 01

  Natural appointments.

• 1:55:46Speaker 02

  Yeah, and then kept making videos at the appointment.

• 1:55:48Speaker 01

  And then it's bawling out, dude. To, in the United States, recording laws are divided into two-party consent states where every participant must consent to being recorded, and a one-party consent state where only one participant needs to agree. In these states, you generally need the consent of every person involved in a private conversation or phone call to record it legally. California, Connecticut, Delaware, Florida, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Washington.

• 1:56:16Speaker 02

  Those are two-party?

• 1:56:17Speaker 01

  Those are two-party.

• 1:56:18Speaker 02

  Oh, shit. I'm breaking some laws out there.

• 1:56:22Speaker 01

  Yeah. One-party consent states, Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Colorado. Tennessee is on there, Idaho, Hawaii, Indiana, Georgia, DC, Louisiana, Maine, Minnesota, Mississippi. Wow.

• 1:56:35Speaker 02

  Ohio's gotta be down there. Yep, there it is, there it is.

• 1:56:39Speaker 01

  The Dakotas is, and there's others too. All the, all the rest of them we didn't name in the two-party, huh?

• 1:56:43Speaker 02

  I just find it funny, one-party. I mean, come on. One person of the two and it's the one recording?

• 1:56:51Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:56:51Speaker 02

  Giving yourself consent is stupid.

• 1:56:54Speaker 01

  Yeah, how do you, how do you figure that out for yourself? Cause it is kind of like, I mean, if something really hurts somebody's feelings, would you? Do you feel okay leaving it up? Like, yeah, what is your, I guess, what do you feel about it?

• 1:57:05Speaker 02

  I'm just doing it Wild West style, man. I mean, I'm waiting for trouble and I know that it's coming, you know? I'm just used to, I, I mean.

• 1:57:16Speaker 01

  Like, what do you mean it's coming or whatever?

• 1:57:17Speaker 02

  Well, if somebody's upset, I consider, I take it into consideration, you know?

• 1:57:25Speaker 02

  Like, I pranked this transgender therapist in Columbus, Ohio. I did, I told her that her dogs weren't picking up the poop. And she went crazy on me and yelled at me and then made all these TikTok videos about me. But she never once asked me, like, to take it down, you know? If she would have asked me to take it down, I would have. I didn't wanna embarrass her, whatever. She's like, that was a very controversial video. I, I quit looking at the internet for a while because I had a whole group of people get, sending me death threats and stuff like that, you know?

• 1:58:04Speaker 01

  Is there something about the stress of it about that, like that you like that? Like, that's what I'm wondering, it's interesting, cause dude, that sounds horrifying to me. Like, somebody's like, man, I hate that you just, this is messed up. Like, you're taking, or you, I don't like the way you're making me look, you know, I'm saying like, like, I don't know, even for myself. Like, one time I saw somebody had made a video, I was just walking by. Like, I, I was walking by a place I'd eaten at or something and somebody had made a video of me just walking by, right? And they're like, oh, just saw Theo Von walk by, looks like he's having the worst day ever, man. Hope he's okay, right? That's what it said. And dude, I, that had been like two hours earlier in my day, I saw it on TikTok and I was having the best day.

• 1:58:44Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:58:44Speaker 01

  And it was like, fuck dude. Now, but like, people are like, man, hope he's okay. Then people are like, man, hope he's not overdosing or something. First of all, I wouldn't be walking by with both of my shoes on or whatever and a hat if I was overdosing probably. But it was just like all this shit and I'm like, what the fuck dude? I'm having a nice day and just cause some asshole wants to fucking put me like that. It makes me like, it didn't really, it didn't really bother me. It was just like the inner inch, it was intriguing to me, like, it made me like a little bit like, okay, well, people can kind of film you whenever, which I didn't really love, but it's like, um, I, I don't know. It was just like, fuck, I'm having a good day and then I see this and I'm like, fuck.

• 1:59:21Speaker 02

  I don't like it, Theo, I'll be honest. I mean, that's why I'm kinda, I wish I had something else to fall back on because like I said, you can't just keep doing this shit. I'm lucky I've gotten away with it and survived five years of doing this. But I, I really feel bad for people. I want everyone to not ever be, like, I usually, people don't see what I do off the camera. I'll stop these people and tell them I was joking. I do not let somebody go away feeling like I just called them homeless because of what they wear. I just, I'm not the one that's gonna show you when I give them money. You know, I hate when people post giving money away, just, it just makes me sick, actually.

• 2:00:01Speaker 01

  Yeah, that kind of stuff's very bizarre. This need to like be, I mean, I don't know, it's a need to be seen, right? But be seen doing something positive, like, I certainly understand the need to be seen. Because, because I mean, that's what I do, I wanna be seen.

• 2:00:16Speaker 02

  When I was doing those stand-up shows, I would ask the audience as soon as I went out there, okay? How many of you literally have no idea what you were coming to see tonight? And every freaking hand went up and I'm like, you guys, all you had to do is search a little bit harder and there's a million viral videos of people exposing me. Somebody did that to me, they posted me rapping at one of my shows. I saw, I just found this two days ago.

• 2:00:44Speaker 01

  So you do stand-up?

• 2:00:46Speaker 02

  I was doing it, I was, I was doing it, you know? I was like, but dude, these stand-up places, they, they want you on the stage at seven thirty and they kick my fans out at nine and shit. And I was like, I wanted to hang out with everybody. I was talking to every single person. I didn't like, I need like a three-hour venue. I was having fun, but then, you know, I wasn't, I'm not a stand-up comedian, but I was doing music. I was showing unseen videos that nobody's gonna see on the internet. And then I was doing questions and answers.

• 2:01:16Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:01:16Speaker 02

  My fans loved it, but you always get the one asshole that's gonna make negative comments and stuff, but.

• 2:01:22Speaker 01

  Why'd you quit doing that?

• 2:01:24Speaker 02

  Well, I.

• 2:01:25Speaker 01

  Or did you quit?

• 2:01:26Speaker 02

  Um, I kinda, it wasn't worth the money, to be honest, man. And, and the exposure, like, I was like, you know, sometimes I'd get like fifteen hundred or two grand and I got this crew I'm taking care of and I'm traveling all over. And it was a great show with a hundred, two hundred people there and the bar's trying to give me fifteen hundred, twenty-five hundred bucks. And I was just like, it wasn't worth it. Also, like, when people wanna kill me, I'm telling you where to find me, you know? Like, so I was gonna keep the lure going a little bit longer.

• 2:01:57Speaker 01

  Oh, so you're almost on the run sometimes in a way?

• 2:02:00Speaker 02

  Not really, I mean, but in a way, I don't like telling somebody where to find me when I do get death threats, you know? It's like, I'll be here at seven thirty on stage, so you bring your gun. I, I pranked these Chicago police officers and, um, I, and they loved me. The captain messaged me and thanked me for showing light on his officers. And I was like, you guys can all come to my shows for free, you know? I want, I want them, I want them in the audience, you know, whenever I can have some backup. But dude, I.

• 2:02:33Speaker 01

  One video you did that was one of my favorites is the, like, uh, cause some of them are like positive. I mean, it's all lighthearted, I feel like.

• 2:02:42Speaker 01

  I, I guess, but I, I mean, I guess I'm not the, or the ones that I've seen have all been like pretty just lighthearted kind of. It's just like, it feels like good fun.

• 2:02:52Speaker 01

  The one where the, you brought the eggs to McDonald's?

• 2:02:54Speaker 02

  Yeah, I just took that off recently cause she said her manager saw it, but.

• 2:02:59Speaker 01

  Nah, uh, dude, that was one of my favorite videos, dude. He pulled up at, uh, McDonald's, tell me what, yeah, just tell us what happened?

• 2:03:07Speaker 02

  Yeah, so I was at a rest stop, traveling, doing push-ups in the parking lot of McDonald's. I had these eggs that I had taken from my Airbnb and they were getting old. And it just, you know, it just came to me, I'm gonna walk through the drive-through line and ask her if she'll make these eggs for me. That was enough for the video. I didn't expect her to actually make them for me and all that.

• 2:03:30Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:03:30Speaker 02

  And that video went crazy viral, she was loving all the attention. I sent her, I sent her a couple hundred dollars. And then like just recently, she's like, hey, this is random, but my manager saw that, I need you to take all the videos down. And I was just like, oh, and I did it. I took them down, but I'll put them back up when it's time to release the egg video again.

• 2:03:58Speaker 01

  It's almost like

• 2:03:59Speaker 02

  When things get slow, I'll be whipping out those eggs again, trust me.

• 2:04:05Speaker 02

  Cause it's like, there is no harm in that. And if McDonald's is your main goal in life, cause I was like, hey, if you get fired, I'll give you a job doing something else, you know, but. And the manager loved it. I had already told her manager, so it's some bullshit.

• 2:04:20Speaker 01

  I thought it was really cool, but yeah, who knows what people are, I mean, like, I thought it was super cool.

• 2:04:24Speaker 02

  I pranked an addict.

• 2:04:25Speaker 01

  Here it is right here.

• 2:04:26Speaker 02

  Oh, wow. That's still on the internet? Wow.

• 2:04:29Speaker 03

  Is it okay to play?

• 2:04:29Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:04:31Speaker 01

  It says, brought my own eggs to the Mc D's drive through in Florida.

• 2:04:35Speaker 02

  Oh my gosh, I'm so sorry to scare you.

• 2:04:37Speaker 06

  You're okay. You're just scared.

• 2:04:38Speaker 02

  Would you mind doing me a small favor?

• 2:04:40Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 2:04:41Speaker 02

  Well, I was wondering if you could make me a couple of egg McMuffins with, brought my own eggs and.

• 2:04:47Speaker 06

  What?

• 2:04:48Speaker 02

  I mean, I don't have any way to fry them. I was gonna use an iron, but I was just gonna see if you could throw them on the grill. I don't even need the buns. I just.

• 2:04:58Speaker 06

  Just need the eggs cooked?

• 2:04:58Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:05:00Speaker 06

  Okay.

• 2:05:00Speaker 02

  Are you serious? You're so sweet.

• 2:05:02Speaker 06

  I, we close in just a couple of minutes. Somebody did it really fast.

• 2:05:05Speaker 02

  I thought you were just opening.

• 2:05:06Speaker 06

  We close and then we close for an hour. We do our deposit and then we come back and open again.

• 2:05:10Speaker 02

  Just, if you can just make six of them scrambled and you can just throw the rest away. Nice Tacoma. You loving that, aren't you? Standing in line. He's standing. I'm a big Toyota fan myself. Girl, you better not get in trouble for this.

• 2:05:28Speaker 06

  Uh-uh.

• 2:05:29Speaker 02

  That's so nice of you.

• 2:05:30Speaker 06

  Are you serious?

• 2:05:31Speaker 02

  I can't give you the whole hundred, but take, give me seventy back, please.

• 2:05:34Speaker 06

  Okay.

• 2:05:36Speaker 02

  The internet killed me over that hundred dollar bill.

• 2:05:39Speaker 01

  You should have given her the hundred.

• 2:05:39Speaker 02

  I did inside and then I gave her more later. It just.

• 2:05:44Speaker 01

  Well, you can't make everybody happy.

• 2:05:46Speaker 02

  Yeah, I didn't even have an extra, like, I didn't have it like that. I've never gotten ahead in life because of these videos, like, people thought.

• 2:05:53Speaker 01

  Dude, you're making these obviously for the IRS, dude. So that's obviously what's going.

• 2:05:58Speaker 02

  Everything is going directly deposited to them.

• 2:06:02Speaker 02

  Oh, man, dude.

• 2:06:03Speaker 01

  Oh, that's a, that was, that is probably the nicest girl right there. That's the sweetest girl. Um.

• 2:06:08Speaker 02

  It was a good one, man. I love that idea that it got through. It's funny.

• 2:06:12Speaker 01

  One thing that you've done and that I like to do over the years too, is I like to pick up hitchhikers, right? That's something that I've always really enjoyed, you know, just cause it's a total. Trying to think of what it is about it. Like, let me really think about it. There's something about like a weird thing of like fate or like just a rochambeau with the universe. It's a gamble. There's something about it. And, uh, I'm trying, there was one I had, I picked up a guy, I think I was in Maui or something. I've been able to find that. Is that even still out there? I don't even know if it's still out there. But, um, oh, here we go.

• 2:06:50Speaker 01

  Chilling. Oh shit, boy. One of my favorite outdoor animals right here.

• 2:06:56Speaker 01

  Shit. The player?

• 2:06:57Speaker 06

  Man, how you doing?

• 2:06:58Speaker 01

  Chilling, bro. Theo, man, what's your name?

• 2:07:02Speaker 06

  Just say it.

• 2:07:03Speaker 01

  Just, how often do you hitch, bro?

• 2:07:04Speaker 06

  I've been doing it every day for five years.

• 2:07:06Speaker 01

  Damn, really?

• 2:07:07Speaker 06

  Yeah, oh yeah.

• 2:07:08Speaker 01

  That's awesome, bro. That's fucking Maui shit. That's dope, dude. I used to love picking up hitchhikers in the States, but they don't even really let you do it anymore. You can barely even meet anybody. Have you ever been picked up by any weirdos?

• 2:07:20Speaker 06

  Uh, only a couple.

• 2:07:21Speaker 01

  Really?

• 2:07:22Speaker 06

  And it wasn't like anything like rapey or like, you know what I mean? Like weird stuff like that. It was more like, I'm an alien. This is where I'm from. Like.

• 2:07:30Speaker 01

  Oh, really?

• 2:07:30Speaker 06

  Uh, like, oh, cool.

• 2:07:32Speaker 01

  Any killers or murderers?

• 2:07:33Speaker 06

  There is, but I've never been picked up by one.

• 2:07:36Speaker 02

  There is.

• 2:07:36Speaker 01

  Catch and release, baby. That's a wrap. I let him go, bro. Catch and release. I don't kill, bro.

• 2:07:42Speaker 02

  That's awesome, man. I didn't know you did that.

• 2:07:45Speaker 01

  Oh, I've always loved it, dude. I'll tell you, this, this is actually a good story. I forgot about her. I'm, I shouldn't tell you it's a good story, cause who the fuck knows if it is, people will decide. But I picked up a dude one time and he, uh, and I just asked him about hitching, what it was like for him and who he was getting picked up by. And he said, well, one of the craziest times he ever hitched a ride, he got into a guy's car and the guy just starts flooring it. He said the guy was on the run from the police, right? So next thing you know, he's getting, they're getting chased by the police for like forty minutes, dude, on the interstate. Does a hitchhiker.

• 2:08:17Speaker 02

  No way. He's running from the law with the guy?

• 2:08:20Speaker 01

  Yeah, he's running from the law with the guy. And he asked the guy, he goes, why'd you even pick me up? He goes, cause I know this isn't gonna end well and I don't wanna die alone. That's what he told the guy.

• 2:08:30Speaker 02

  Whoa.

• 2:08:31Speaker 01

  And they fucking ended up skirting off the interstate into a cornfield and, uh, and the, the police got the guys or whatever, but that, that was. And the police pull up on him like, what the, get out of the fucking, he's like, I'm a hitchhiker.

• 2:08:44Speaker 02

  So the dude driving actually ran for the hitchhiker?

• 2:08:48Speaker 01

  Ran from the police.

• 2:08:49Speaker 02

  Yeah, with the hitchhiker in the passenger seat.

• 2:08:51Speaker 01

  In the passenger seat. That's pretty dope, actually.

• 2:08:53Speaker 02

  Yeah, you're just going gangster on it, man.

• 2:08:56Speaker 01

  And going heaven alone sounds, it does sound scary. I know that's why it's put together the way it is, cause you have to do it by yourself or whatever. But it does sound kinda scary. Um.

• 2:09:05Speaker 02

  What?

• 2:09:06Speaker 01

  Going heaven alone or dying alone.

• 2:09:08Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah, yeah.

• 2:09:10Speaker 01

  So bringing somebody along like.

• 2:09:13Speaker 02

  You might as well do it.

• 2:09:14Speaker 01

  I lowkey get it, bro.

• 2:09:16Speaker 02

  Yeah, I see what you're saying.

• 2:09:17Speaker 01

  What's one of the wildest, uh, hitchers you picked up?

• 2:09:19Speaker 02

  Bro, so I had to tell the, the first time, I hadn't slept in seven days. I was kicking, I was going through withdrawal and some time.

• 2:09:27Speaker 01

  Withdrawal or use? Because both of those.

• 2:09:29Speaker 02

  Withdrawal. When you're coming off of heroin or fentanyl, you get really sick and you don't sleep. And sometimes I'll just hit the road because being on the road is a buzz of its own. It keeps me occupied. If I get some coffee and just drive, I can get hours out of the way that I would just be tormenting at home in a room. So I picked this guy up and I always say, you're not, if, you won't kill me if I don't kill you, right? Before they get in, I always get a verbal disclaimer. I get an agreement from them that they won't kill me and I won't kill them. Cause I'm just as dangerous as they are. They just don't know it, you know, so.

• 2:10:07Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's like the Hitchhiker's Creed or whatever?

• 2:10:09Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah. That's what I do. And this guy was cool for a while. His name was James. And, uh, I took him all, like several states away. He did, he did a dealership prank with me and everything. I made him. He walked into a car dealership and I did a prank with him, but he ended up saying some freak stuff and I was like, dude, all right, man, ride's over, bro.

• 2:10:32Speaker 01

  Like some sex stuff or whatever?

• 2:10:33Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 2:10:34Speaker 01

  Like he was trying to sniff you out or whatever?

• 2:10:36Speaker 02

  Yep, just trying to make a gay comment or something, you know, and, and I had to kick him out, dude. And as I was leaving, he was walking, he was dragging that suitcase on the next exit ramp. And I said, you could have just not said anything weird, James. I mean, it's like, cause if it gets weird, you gotta go, bro.

• 2:10:56Speaker 01

  Yeah, it gets just, it's tough. It's also tough to ride around for, with a guy for a few days if you're gay and not flirt a little.

• 2:11:02Speaker 02

  Yeah, I mean.

• 2:11:03Speaker 01

  That's gotta be hard.

• 2:11:04Speaker 02

  I let him drive my car and I slept for the first time in days, dude. He hadn't driven in seven years. I hadn't slept in seven days, dude. And he was like loving being behind the wheel. That was when I had the nice Lexus. This is a $500 Subaru I'm driving right here.

• 2:11:20Speaker 01

  That's cool, bro. God.

• 2:11:22Speaker 02

  But this is where I make him put the glasses on.

• 2:11:25Speaker 01

  It's a great adventure.

• 2:11:27Speaker 02

  It is. You get stories and you're helping somebody too. This guy had been walking for four days and nobody picked him up, bro.

• 2:11:34Speaker 01

  Really?

• 2:11:36Speaker 02

  How's it going? All right. How you doing? Good. Tired, bored out. Yeah, well, before you get in, there's a couple of things we need to go over. Okay. You ain't gonna kill me, are you? No, sir. And I won't kill you, all right?

• 2:11:52Speaker 02

  Is that a deal? That's a deal. You promise? I promise. I'm just trying to get home. I ain't, I ain't trying to. Hop in, you get, you gotta put them glasses on so I can keep an eye on you though.

• 2:12:03Speaker 02

  No weapons? No weapons? No, sir. All right, man. I'm trusting you, bro. You're more real than chess. There's nothing here with my purpose, sir. Grab them glasses there in the door.

• 2:12:16Speaker 01

  Oh, these are nice.

• 2:12:17Speaker 02

  If you don't mind, just put them on so I can keep an eye on you.

• 2:12:21Speaker 02

  I've been out here walking for four days. Today's the fourth day I've been out here. It's easy to see him like that.

• 2:12:28Speaker 01

  That's crazy, dude. That's fun, dude. This is fucking, that's awesome, dude. Me and my buddy Caleb picked a hitchhiker up the other day, man. Drove her, just a lady carrying a bunch of stuff. We're like, dude, we cannot drive past a woman carrying all that.

• 2:12:41Speaker 02

  Oh, no, no. You do have to analyze every hitchhiker though. Like, you're like, do I really feel like risking my life today or not?

• 2:12:49Speaker 01

  Yeah. Dude, I drove a guy one time to get a bunch of gasoline or something back to the family. He didn't even say, thank you.

• 2:12:55Speaker 02

  Dude.

• 2:12:56Speaker 01

  And that still makes me mad.

• 2:12:58Speaker 02

  That's crazy.

• 2:12:59Speaker 01

  He didn't fucking say thank you.

• 2:13:01Speaker 02

  Should have gave you a Russian reach around. That's the least he could do.

• 2:13:05Speaker 01

  Yeah, he could have done anything for, he could have even just said even just something like, thank you.

• 2:13:11Speaker 02

  Yeah, dude. But to answer your question, yeah, it's not always fun. Um, like putting people, you know. The videos, yeah, there's a lot of negativity to it, believe it or not, even though mine are the nicest ones you see on the internet. Everyone's harassing people and making them really angry.

• 2:13:28Speaker 01

  Well, do you think it comes from like, I'm just curious and I'm not trying to put you on the spot or anything. Do you feel like I am?

• 2:13:33Speaker 02

  I am on the spot and I like it. It's okay. It's okay. Yeah, it's fine.

• 2:13:36Speaker 01

  Do you think that it's about like we, like whoever's filming becomes the. The decider of what's okay, you know what I'm saying? I'm wondering what like the psychology of it is. And you would probably know more than anybody because you've had like, what is the attraction to it? Overall, do you think, have you been able to think about any of that?

• 2:13:55Speaker 02

  Um, the attraction of it is just capturing humans in action, whether it's bad or good.

• 2:14:02Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 2:14:03Speaker 02

  This, this dope fiend comes up to my car, but she was, she still looked decent like, but I saw her coming a mile away. And, and by the end of the conversation, she makes up this crazy story about crying and everything about somebody at McDonald's. And in the end, I'm like, you sure you don't just need this money for dope? And she's like, okay, I, I, and it was beautiful because.

• 2:14:29Speaker 01

  It was real. I saw that one.

• 2:14:30Speaker 02

  Okay. So you saw that and that one bothers me. And the recent repost of it, I cut out so much stuff that would make her look worse. I just like to show that I'm from the streets and I saw that shit a mile away.

• 2:14:43Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:14:44Speaker 02

  But I know that I can be recorded too, in those moments. I'm prepared for the worst because of what I do. Like, I know that one day, and that's why I'm like, it's kind of nice to control this reveal because people try to catch me and try to put me on blast and try to capture me getting upset all the time. And, uh, I mean, it's, uh, it can happen to me when I'm using dope. I could go buy it from a prankster and you know, I used to make up stories on the street too. I was the best. Oh dude, I made it $40 every 10 steps I took when I was on the street. Because I still.

• 2:15:23Speaker 01

  Were you living on the street at some point?

• 2:15:25Speaker 02

  I kind of, but I would like stay at a dope, in a dope dealer's garage or stay at some friends. I was never the guy freezing on the concrete, which really hurts me to see. I always had enough, um, people in my corner or just the dope man himself let me stay in the garage, you know?

• 2:15:46Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:15:49Speaker 01

  Well, you're charismatic guy. I mean, if you, if you have, if you can figure out people and you can navigate people, you can always survive. You're a survivor.

• 2:15:54Speaker 02

  And I was a salesman already. So I would, when I walk up to people and I would be like, hey, you might help me out. You know, I didn't look like the typical addict begging for change on the street. So they would be like, I got a 10, I got a five. I don't know, but they're like, I'll buy you some food. And I'm like, okay, that'll free up money for the dope, you know? Like I, I was a good, I was a good panhandler, but I was getting fives and 10s and 20s and, um.

• 2:16:21Speaker 01

  And you were using at that time?

• 2:16:22Speaker 02

  Yeah. And my dumb ass would take the first 20 I got and walk all the way to the dope house. Instead of saving up like 300, just going a little further down the street there. As soon as you get enough to get the bag, I would walk miles back to the dope house. It was the funniest shit ever, dude. I was the stupidest addict ever. I still am. I'm an idiot, bro.

• 2:16:46Speaker 01

  Yeah, dude. Addiction's crazy, man. Yeah. How did it, did it affect your ability to parent and stuff over the years? Like, how was that? Did it get pretty bad for you in that space? Or were you always able to show up in those spaces?

• 2:16:57Speaker 02

  Well, thank God.

• 2:17:00Speaker 01

  And are you a parent?

• 2:17:01Speaker 02

  Yeah, my son, he's a sophomore at Ohio State, man.

• 2:17:04Speaker 01

  Nice dude.

• 2:17:05Speaker 02

  And he's a good kid. My, my, my ex-wife was my high school sweetheart and I always knew she'd be the best mom. And she's, we've raised an amazing kid. And he doesn't have so far, so good. He doesn't drink or do drugs. He's the, he's the one that drives his friends around and he's, he loves God and you know, God first and stuff, man. So I'm so happy about that. That's a blessing.

• 2:17:32Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:17:33Speaker 02

  But he was a baby, like one or, you know, one or two, or just the, the years where I had to put him to sleep and like sleep. And then as soon as he fell asleep, I'd go and drive around and get high. Like he doesn't remember those days. I got clean in 2010 and stayed clean till 2023, but the gambling kept me from being present. There was always this monster in my head saying, when can you go to Vegas again? When can you, when can, when's the next poker tournament?

• 2:18:04Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:18:05Speaker 02

  And so I look back on that and I'm like, man, even though I never missed a sports games and all that shit. The gambling still kept me from spending, being present and being the person I like to think I am today. As far as like, like I told you, I don't have to tell my mom, I gotta go just to go somewhere. You know, like I can hang out and watch Law and Order with my mom for freaking days and just chill with her, you know? And not, man, it's just such a blessing that I was, uh, I got a, got clean again, you know?

• 2:18:38Speaker 01

  Hey man, it's hard to get back in.

• 2:18:41Speaker 02

  It's easier to stay here than get back here, right? That's, that's the most, that's the truest statement I've ever heard, man.

• 2:18:47Speaker 01

  I was thinking about that today. I was at a meeting today. I was thinking about that. I'm like, God, dude, I remember just like, and it's not long ago. I say I remember like, but you know, it's like, I got like 77 days or something right now.

• 2:18:57Speaker 02

  What?

• 2:18:58Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:18:58Speaker 02

  Mine's July 25th.

• 2:19:00Speaker 01

  Is it? I'm August 1st, you pussy.

• 2:19:02Speaker 02

  That was the day I stopped gambling. I walked out of that casino. So my gambling clean date is August 1st, bro.

• 2:19:09Speaker 01

  Let's go.

• 2:19:10Speaker 02

  That's awesome. No shit.

• 2:19:12Speaker 01

  But dude, just the organizing of things to party, to have a good, to sit, to all of it. And it's okay. It's okay. It's no judgment against anybody or anything. But for me, it just, I couldn't work anymore. And I'm just praying I'm able to keep it away. But also, also dude, somebody said the other day, I was in a meeting and said, I had to admit to myself that I loved doing those things. A lot of times I'd be like, oh, I don't love, I loved having a good, I loved it. That's the thing I didn't want to admit, you know? Because then I can't really operate from a place that's the true honesty. I fucking loved it. I didn't like the stress, all the other stuff that I don't even think about that's going on. Um.

• 2:19:52Speaker 02

  Yeah, dude, I loved numbing myself from reality, bro. I mean, it killed stress. It killed everything. And, and then I like to feel adventurous on it. People always said, oh, you're, you have a hole in your soul and that's what you're trying to fill. I'm like, no, I just like to get high and take a walk in the woods and trip on some mushrooms and look at shapes changing. I, but I'm learning now that it's way more than that.

• 2:20:19Speaker 02

  But I didn't like to be handcuffed. I had to get high before I did anything, even if it was just weed or alcohol. It was like, I didn't want to start my day until I got high. And being able to break those chains, man. And then the gambling thing too, just, I feel, I feel like I don't have handcuffs on anymore. It's the best feeling, dude.

• 2:20:42Speaker 01

  Wow, that's, I'm so happy for you for that. I'm happy for anybody.

• 2:20:46Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah.

• 2:20:47Speaker 01

  That just has like, just to get some space to take a breath. Johnny Hamcheck, what's, what's next? Do you have a plan for what's next, bro?

• 2:20:55Speaker 02

  Well, I'm actually working on a movie. Um, I, it's been in the works for a while, but I have, uh, they're getting pretty serious about it. They, uh, they said they're going to start following me around with cameras for a documentary here in a couple of months. So, but I really don't know and I don't care so bright, like just being clean. I can handle anything coming my way. That's why I always, during my sobriety, as long as I stayed. The number one priority for me is sticking to my, you know, getting, staying clean, man. So I don't know what's next really. I mean, the pranks now are just organic.

• 2:21:34Speaker 02

  When I see something and I feel like making videos, but I'm not going to slave to the social media. I really want to take a break. Actually, I'm really wanting to put the phone down for a couple of months. And I'll probably do it after this podcast, actually.

• 2:21:51Speaker 01

  How bad does slaving get to be out finding videos? Would you find yourself at like a crazy amount of time hunting the perfect video?

• 2:21:57Speaker 02

  No, it's pretty easy, but they, the best ones come when you don't try. When you go out and say, I'm going to go find videos, it never works. It's when I'm taking a shit at a restaurant and I see a fanny pack hanging there. And I know the guy's coming back for the fanny pack. And I, and I, in my head, I already knew I was going to start a tug of war video with this guy. So I get my phone ready and everything works when you don't try. It's literally, once I quit trying to squeeze onto things and accomplish things. So I have no goals in life, dude. I mean, I'm 50 years old, bro, and just being healthy and being around my family and just being a good person is all that matters.

• 2:22:38Speaker 02

  I want to do something positive with this platform. That's all I want to do is, is do something positive with it, bro. Like, that's the least I can do. I've had the most fun ever because of Johnny Hamcheck, but I want to give back. I want to do something with it positive, man. I don't know exactly what, but it's, uh, it's going to happen, you know, hopefully.

• 2:22:59Speaker 01

  Well, if anybody can figure something out, it's you, man. You, it seems like you've lived a million lives, man. And I think someone we didn't even really get to talk about. Um, but, uh, yeah, I just, I can imagine that, like, I can imagine it's been a, it just, it sounds like it's been quite a journey, man. Um, and yeah, dude, thanks for pulling up today. Thanks for just spending some time together, dude. It's so funny too, dude. The biggest prank of all is that you say you have two ponytails in the back.

• 2:23:28Speaker 02

  I don't have one even, man.

• 2:23:30Speaker 01

  You don't have any hair.

• 2:23:31Speaker 02

  Yeah. One, one video recently, the guy said, oh, you went completely the opposite direction. And I was like, and it is one of the funniest things. And that's why I was happy to actually show, and everyone's going to say bald bony on the internet. And I love that one. One of my fans said bald bony and I love it and it's funny and it's great. And I just don't, I just don't give a shit, man. It's, it's all love and all fun and just, uh, you know? I'm probably going to take some videos down off the internet now.

• 2:24:00Speaker 01

  Oh, no, dude, I'm making you feel bad about it? Dude, I'm sorry, bro.

• 2:24:04Speaker 02

  Dude, I'm totally fucking with you.

• 2:24:05Speaker 01

  I don't know what's right or wrong. I'm just thinking out loud.

• 2:24:08Speaker 02

  I'm messing with you like you mess with me, dude, like that fucking first conversation we had. I don't know, like, I just couldn't keep up with you, dude. You're a genius and congrats on everything. It's an honor to be here, bro. I can't tell you enough how, how happy I am to actually just reveal, reveal who I am a little bit, you know?

• 2:24:26Speaker 01

  Oh, who runs this shit show, dude? It's a fucking, yeah, I mean.

• 2:24:30Speaker 02

  Nobody knows what the hell's going on in this business, bro. Nobody, bro. And that's life, dude.

• 2:24:36Speaker 01

  It is life. Yeah, dude, that is the truth, bro. Nobody knows what's going on in this business, dude. That is the truth.

• 2:24:43Speaker 02

  Dude, that's the thing that boggles my mind. You're telling me somebody created all this shit? Dude, we could talk forever about life, bro, but.

• 2:24:50Speaker 01

  Well, we could do it another time.

• 2:24:51Speaker 02

  Yeah, dude, anytime you want, I'm down.

• 2:24:53Speaker 01

  But yeah, dude, I'm glad you're out there busting people's ballbonies, dude. And it's fucking been an absolute blast to watch, bro. Uh, Johnny Hamcheck, bro. Love, bro.

• 2:25:03Speaker 02

  Thank you, brother. One love.