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899: Reaching Out

This American Life

Hosted by Ira Glass

1h 2m
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Original podcast

Summary

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Host Ira Glass presents excerpts from the podcast series Reaching Out, created by Sayer Civado and produced by Futuro Studios and KCRW. The series follows Sayer as he records nearly all his personal conversations, most notably tense, passive-aggressive phone calls with his twin brother, Connor. Over several years, the brothers explore their divergent lives—Sayer working media jobs in New York and Los Angeles while dealing with commitment and family wounds, and Connor living a nomadic life of odd jobs—while attempting to track down their estranged birth father in Los Angeles.

The narrative builds as the brothers use DNA test results and public records to locate their father, a rockabilly-style barber working just five minutes from Sayer's apartment. The documentary captures the raw, messy reality of sibling dynamics, the avoidance of emotional pain through silence, and the awkward climax when the brothers finally book an appointment at their father's barbershop to hand him a note revealing their existence. This episode is worth listening to for its innovative narrative style, intimate audio recordings, and deeply honest examination of family estrangement.

  • Sayer Civado began recording nearly all of his personal conversations years ago to capture the raw, messy reality of everyday life. 2:22
  • The twin brothers diverge in their life choices, with Sayer pursuing stability in media and Connor living a transient lifestyle. 6:34
  • Using a DNA testing website and public records, Connor and Sayer discover their birth father works as a barber in Los Angeles. 18:15
  • The brothers ultimately decide to confront their estranged father in person by booking his final appointment of the day at his barbershop. 51:35

Chapters

  1. 0:00
    Intro and Promo

    Ira Glass introduces the episode, promotes the live show and the free trial, and sets the stage for the story to follow.

  2. 1:21
    Sponsor Interlude

    A series of sponsor messages from Allianz, Capital One, and others punctuate the episode before the main narrative begins.

  3. 1:55
    Introducing Sarah Covado’s Reaching Out

    Ira explains the premise of Sarah Covado’s podcast, highlighting its unique narrative style and the personal recordings that drive the story.

  4. 3:18
    Early Life and Twin Dynamics

    The narrative dives into Connor’s early recordings, revealing the complex relationship between the twins and the emotional stakes of their shared history.

  5. 4:12
    The Search for a Birth Father

    Connor’s persistent quest for the narrator’s birth father unfolds through recorded calls, emails, and the discovery of a barber shop that may hold the key.

  6. 22:30
    Closing and Next Week Teaser

    The show ends with a brief thank‑you and a teaser for next week’s stories.

  7. 28:53
    Preparing to Meet

    The brothers strategize how to approach their father, drafting emails, planning a visit, and grappling with their own expectations and fears.

  8. 37:59
    The Encounter at the Barber Shop

    A tense, emotionally charged meeting takes place as the brothers confront the father, revealing unresolved family dynamics and the possibility of closure.

  9. 1:00:42
    Reflection and Closure

    The episode concludes with Ira summarizing the story’s arc, encouraging listeners to explore the full series, and reflecting on the power of personal storytelling.

  10. 1:01:49
    Live Show Reminder

    Hosts remind listeners of an upcoming live show on Friday, October 9, and encourage sign‑ups.

  11. 1:04:05
    Sponsor Message: Sierra Club

    A Sierra Club spokesperson highlights the importance of protecting public lands and invites donations.

Highlights

  • 2:22

    Recording Nearly Everythingstory

    Sayer explains how he recorded nearly all of his personal conversations, including passive-aggressive phone calls with his twin brother.

  • 6:34

    Divergent Freedomsinsight

    The narrator contrasts the choices made by the twins, comparing Sayer's life of urban stability to Connor's transient lifestyle of odd jobs.

  • 18:15

    Finding the Fatherdata

    Through distant relative DNA matches and public records, the brothers discover their birth father lives just forty minutes away.

  • 27:07

    Barber Shop Yelp Reviewsinsight

    The brothers examine their father's Yelp reviews, noting customers rate him as either a perfectionist or a complete asshole.

  • 51:35

    The Barbershop Confrontation Planstrategy

    Sayer and Connor finalize their plan to book the father's last appointment of the day and hand him a note revealing their identity.

  • 55:07

    Arriving at the Shopstory

    The brothers arrive outside their birth father's barbershop and experience intense hesitation right before the appointment.

Quotes

  • “I feel like they took what shows like ours do and then just pushed it further and further until it became something else.”
    Ira Glass · 2:03
  • “There is a price for what we choose to remember and what we choose to forget.”
    Unnamed speaker · 4:12
  • “The more I think about trying to think about him, the more I end up thinking about him.”
    Unnamed speaker · 9:53
  • “The critical difference between you and Connor is this. Long ago, without realizing it, you chose a kind of freedom.”
    Unnamed speaker · 6:34
  • “The bullshit of this age, this time. The bullshit of leaving your home only to find that the world is exactly as you left it.”
    Unnamed speaker · 42:01
  • This American Life Partners 0:31–1:14
  • Capital One 22:34–23:06
  • Southern New Hampshire University 23:10–24:04
  • This American Life partners 1:01:49–1:02:52
  • Sierra Club 1:04:05–1:04:29

About this episode

Sayre Quevedo’s invented a way to do a podcast that feels completely new. He’s been recording nearly all his conversations for years, and the result is something that captures a person’s life in a raw and complicated way that’s rarely heard. His new show Reaching Out also documents his mutually judge-y relationship with his twin brother as they set out to find their long-lost birth father. Want to watch our live show this Friday? Use free trial code LIVESTREAM when you sign up as a Life Partner https://thisamericanlife.supercast.com?utm_id=lifepartners&utm_source=rss&utm_medium=shownotes. (00:00:00) Prologue: Ira Glass introduces Reaching Out, a podcast that feels like it invented something completely new — an ambitious way of capturing a life in a way we'd never heard before. (1 minute) (00:02:39) Part One: Sayre Quevedo and his brother start the search for their birth father, and they discover that this whole time he’s been a few minutes away from where Sayre lives. (20 minutes) (00:21:49) Part Two: The twins try reaching out in a variety of ways before taking more direct action. Sayre tries to continue life as normal. (12 minutes) (00:34:50) Part Three: Sayre and Connor go in person to face their dad. (24 minutes) Transcripts are available at thisamericanlife.org https://www.thisamericanlife.org/899/transcript / This American Life privacy policy https://www.thisamericanlife.org/page/privacy-policy. / Learn more about sponsor message choices https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices.

Transcript

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9,409 words · 8 speakers

Speaker names marked are inferred from speaking time and the show’s known hosts — they are not voice-verified.

Topics

  • This American Life
  • Reaching Out
  • PRX, the Public Radio Exchange
  • Futuro Studios
  • iPhone 18 Pro
  • KCRW
  • Futuro Plus

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