Session 99: Megan Moroney

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• 0:00Speaker 00

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• 0:40Speaker 01

  Hi pussies, welcome back to Therapists. I know we are doing a Thursday... First of all, I need to dress up more for this.

• 0:50Speaker 01

  I know we are doing a Thursday release, which we don't normally do, but we are doing that because it is Meghan Moroney's birthday, and she is also the guest tonight. So I thought it would be really fun to drop the episode on her birthday, with it being so close. Happy birthday to you, Meghan, love you.

• 1:09Speaker 01

  So in Meghan's honor, I'm gonna sing happy birthday to her. Happy birthday to... Wait, I'm gonna try to sound good, hold on. Just 'cause she's a singer, you know? Okay.

• 1:23Speaker 01

  Ha... No, that was off tune. Happy birthday to you. Happy birth...

• 1:34Speaker 01

  Happy birthday to you. Wait, no, I know that isn't good. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday, dear Meghan. Happy birthday to you.

• 1:52Speaker 01

  Thank you. Megan Moroney is a dear friend and a superstar when it comes to country music and just music in general. She's literally incredible. Her sophomore album, Am I OK?, came out last year. She is currently on the Am I OK? Tour, which I was so lucky to be able to see last week. It was life-changing. I love when I go to a concert and their audience is just so engaged. They're like hanging on her every word and like Megan just had the crowd in the palm of her hands. It was so amazing. I just kept looking up there being like she is such a star and like all of her music slaps. But if you are not able to see her

• 2:32Speaker 01

  live, do not worry. Her live album, Megan Moroney, Am I OK? Tour is out now. Oh, there's just something, sometime like, i.e. Cornelia Street Live, like it just like it makes you really feel like you're in the room with the artist and I think it's so cool. So Megan, congratulations and happy birthday. And I'm so excited for you guys to hear this episode. To submit Tell Me What's Wrong, go to passthatpuss.com and click Tell Me What's Wrong. Leave a name and number if you're feeling fancy. Okay, enjoy the episode. Love you pussies.

• 3:02Speaker 01

  Hi pussies, welcome back to Therapuss. Today we have on a dear friend and a country superstar, Megan Moroney.

• 3:12Speaker 02

  Oh, hey.

• 3:13Speaker 01

  Hey, I miss you. How are you?

• 3:15Speaker 02

  I'm great. I love that we're matching.

• 3:17Speaker 01

  I know, we are matching.

• 3:18Speaker 02

  This has made my day already.

• 3:19Speaker 01

  I, this is, and you know, I never wear sweats that are like, like what would you call this?

• 3:24Speaker 02

  Bootleg, perhaps?

• 3:26Speaker 01

  This is bootleg?

• 3:28Speaker 02

  Straight leg, straight leg.

• 3:29Speaker 01

  Straight leg. But I never wear it. And I did it for you. Not that it's like really like upending my day or anything, but like.

• 3:36Speaker 02

  Thank you so much.

• 3:37Speaker 01

  How's tour?

• 3:39Speaker 02

  Great. I mean, we've got, what, eight shows left out of, I've done, there's gonna be 50 total. So math is hard, 42 shows down. So it's been amazing. I feel like it's been like the best time of my life on tour. It's just, it's insane. I'm so glad you get to come because you'll get to like see it. I feel like I say all the time, like, oh, it's so special and it's crazy. It's amazing. I've never had this happen before, but until you like see it, then you're like, oh, that is insane.

• 4:07Speaker 01

  I cannot wait. What do you, what's your favorite song to perform on the, in the show?

• 4:11Speaker 02

  Um, I think Break It Right Back, Straight Into Bless Your Heart, really does something for me. Like, I, I end Break It Right Back on the floor, like, the drama.

• 4:21Speaker 01

  The drama of it all.

• 4:22Speaker 02

  And then I stand up and we sing Bless Your Heart together and it's just like...

• 4:27Speaker 01

  I love Bless Your Heart.

• 4:29Speaker 02

  Thanks.

• 4:29Speaker 01

  Did you write, because I remember you being like, what's your writing process? And you're like, you write it all at home at first, and then you bring it to a studio?

• 4:36Speaker 02

  Yeah, so like, I wrote Bless Your Heart on a writer's trip. So that was just like, we went out to the East Tennessee Mountains and we just like, brought guitars and sat around and talked about stuff. And, um, that was a part of my deluxe album. So I wanted, that was like a topic I didn't touch on on Am I OK? Was like, you know, anti-bullying, and that's what that song is written for. So, um, we were talking about just how like, my co-writer, Jesse Alexander, had like a middle schooler. And I was like, what can we say that's not like, fuck you? But a middle schooler can sing and feel better when they're being bullied? And I was like, oh, Bless Your Heart.

• 5:12Speaker 01

  Bless Your Heart is great. But I was also listening to I'm Not Pretty today. And then that's also touches on the bullying of it all.

• 5:19Speaker 02

  Yep, that is, um, wait, did you say the bullying of it all?

• 5:22Speaker 01

  Yes, right? Like, doesn't that, isn't that what it's...

• 5:26Speaker 02

  The bullying of it all.

• 5:27Speaker 01

  Because like, isn't that what it's about?

• 5:29Speaker 02

  Yeah, I know it is. Um, that actually happened though. If you go to my Instagram, I say, did you mean to double tap that Spring Break throwback from 2016 and PCB?

• 5:38Speaker 01

  What is PCB?

• 5:39Speaker 02

  Panama City Beach.

• 5:40Speaker 01

  Got it.

• 5:40Speaker 02

  Also, to sidetrack, you didn't know what a chicken mini is.

• 5:43Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 5:45Speaker 02

  It's the backbone of my happiness.

• 5:47Speaker 01

  What is a chicken mini, mini? What is that?

• 5:51Speaker 02

  It's Chick-fil-A's best breakfast item.

• 5:53Speaker 01

  Is that when I FaceTimed you after we went out in Nashville and you were eating that

• 5:57Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 5:57Speaker 01

  miniature breakfast sandwich?

• 5:58Speaker 02

  It's, yes. It's like a little chicken biscuit.

• 6:01Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 6:02Speaker 02

  Soaked in butter.

• 6:03Speaker 01

  Have you had a chicken mini, Louise?

• 6:06Speaker 02

  He didn't even know what it was. I said, I just ate some chicken minis and he's like, a what? And I was offended.

• 6:11Speaker 01

  She was appalled.

• 6:12Speaker 02

  I was offended to my core.

• 6:13Speaker 01

  She was appalled. To bring it all back, you started singing when you were injured in Shirley, right? And then your dad gifted you a guitar?

• 6:20Speaker 02

  Yeah, so my dad gifted me a guitar after my first breakup because I wouldn't stop crying. So he took me to Guitar Center. My mom was pulling out all the stops. She's like, the first time I was allowed to dye my hair blonde was because of a breakup. I wouldn't stop crying.

• 6:33Speaker 01

  You're not naturally blonde?

• 6:35Speaker 02

  No.

• 6:37Speaker 01

  Your hair looks naturally blonde.

• 6:40Speaker 02

  You're so sweet for saying.

• 6:41Speaker 01

  You don't have roots.

• 6:42Speaker 02

  Yes, I do. They're tasteful roots.

• 6:45Speaker 01

  Oh, okay.

• 6:47Speaker 02

  But they're definitely there. And I would say my hair is like not, I'm not naturally like a brunette. It's like more dirty blonde. But yeah, definitely not, not a natural, very blonde girl. But um, yeah, my mom let me dye my hair and my dad bought me a guitar. So.

• 7:02Speaker 01

  And then how long until when you taught yourself how to play guitar?

• 7:06Speaker 02

  Um, it was about that time. Yeah, like you said, I hurt my knee when I was like 17. Um, and I had to get surgery and that made me have to be in a wheelchair for like two and a half months. And so when I was just sitting around doing nothing, I was like, okay, I'll finally try to learn guitar. Cause my dad would try to teach, like he tried to teach me how to play guitar since I was like 12. But I would never like stick to it because my fingers would hurt or like I would just get easily distracted by something else. Um, but when I got hurt, I was like, well, I ain't got nothing else to do.

• 7:35Speaker 01

  What was the first song you taught yourself how to play?

• 7:37Speaker 02

  Strawberry wine. Do you know that one? Really?

• 7:43Speaker 02

  It's my go to karaoke song, so.

• 7:44Speaker 01

  Who's it by?

• 7:45Speaker 02

  Deana Carter. Strawberry wine, seventeen.

• 7:50Speaker 01

  Sometimes I forget when I have a singer on the show and they start singing, I'm like, oh, I forget.

• 7:55Speaker 02

  Shirley, you've heard the song. Shirley. No, Shirley. Like if you heard it.

• 7:59Speaker 01

  I really, the issue with me and country music is I, I, it's all great. I only listen to women and country. So I listen to you, I listen to Casey.

• 8:08Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 8:09Speaker 01

  I listen to.

• 8:12Speaker 01

  You, and I listen to Casey, and I listen to, um, like, uh, like, I listen to old Dolly Parton sometimes. I listen to, like, Miranda Lambert, like, who were your summer, who were some of your country icons?

• 8:25Speaker 02

  Miranda and Casey. I think Taylor too, obviously, like, I grew up on her music. Um, but Casey was the first artist that, um, made me wanna like write my own music.

• 8:36Speaker 01

  Do you remember the first song you wrote?

• 8:38Speaker 02

  Yeah, it was called Stay A Memory. It was a fuck you song, imagine that. Stay A Memory and Don't Come Back was like the hook, but, um, yeah, I listened to Same Trailer Different Park for the first time. And I was like, she is so clever and so, like, how does she put those feelings into words? And then it rhymes and it's so clever and funny. And that's when I was like, I'm gonna try to write a song.

• 9:02Speaker 01

  It's actually funny you say that because I was listening to Mary Go Round the other day. And then I was listening to your stuff and they reminded me of each other with like the wittiness.

• 9:10Speaker 02

  Thank you, that's a compliment. Yeah, it was really cool because like I grew up loving Kacey Musgraves so much. And I even like waited outside of her bus at a show in Alabama and I got to meet her. And then we shared a dressing room at the CMA Awards last year.

• 9:24Speaker 01

  Do you tell her, like, I literally waited outside your bus?

• 9:26Speaker 02

  Oh, she knows, like, when I met her too, I wasn't expecting, like, because it's like she was performing and like, award shows are just stressful, like, I wasn't even expecting her to like take the time to take a picture with me or anything.

• 9:39Speaker 01

  Right.

• 9:39Speaker 02

  Cause like the CMAs put us together, like, she could have been like, girl. Remember when you stalked me outside of my bus? Not have to share a dressing room with this girl, but she was like so kind and sweet and was like, thanks for all the nice things you always say about me. Um, and took the time to like get pictures and was just really sweet and I just love her, yeah.

• 9:59Speaker 01

  She's everything. Do you listen to Deeper Well?

• 10:01Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 10:02Speaker 01

  I love Deeper Well.

• 10:02Speaker 02

  Architect.

• 10:03Speaker 01

  So good.

• 10:04Speaker 02

  So good.

• 10:05Speaker 01

  Witty song.

• 10:06Speaker 02

  Witty song, yeah. Um, it's one of those things where it's like, it's, she has so many songs where I'm like, oh, I wish I wrote that.

• 10:13Speaker 01

  Do you, what, what song are you like most proud of in your discography with your wordplay?

• 10:20Speaker 02

  Um, wordplay?

• 10:23Speaker 02

  I really love the bridge where I say, "I'll see you next Tuesday at the bar." Um, I love that because it's just funny to me. I had explained to my parents what that was and why that was clever.

• 10:35Speaker 01

  You're like, "It's cunt."

• 10:37Speaker 02

  I'm calling them a cunt. Um, so that, but then also my song, "Sleep On My Side."

• 10:43Speaker 01

  I listened to that today.

• 10:45Speaker 02

  "I sleep on my side and you sleep with everyone." I'm like, "I did that. Yeah, I did that."

• 10:50Speaker 01

  Have you started writing your new album?

• 10:52Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah. It's done being written and I'm listening to mixes now. So that's all I listen to right now is myself. And then I go and I play a show and it's more of myself. I'm like, "Yay."

• 11:03Speaker 01

  October 9th, right? That's when your live album comes out?

• 11:05Speaker 02

  The live album comes out, October 9th.

• 11:07Speaker 01

  Right by my birthday.

• 11:09Speaker 02

  Oh, my gosh. When's your birthday?

• 11:10Speaker 01

  27th, you're the 9th, right?

• 11:11Speaker 02

  Okay, I love that for us.

• 11:12Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 11:12Speaker 02

  So maybe our little trip is our birthday trip.

• 11:16Speaker 01

  I invited myself on vacation, by the way, just so everybody knows.

• 11:19Speaker 02

  And I was gonna invite Jake anyways, um, but yeah, it's perfect that you were like, "I'm coming." Because I was like, "Great, I was gonna invite you."

• 11:26Speaker 01

  I'm really excited for that vacation. We are gonna have the best time.

• 11:30Speaker 02

  We're gonna swim with sharks.

• 11:31Speaker 01

  Ooh, okay.

• 11:32Speaker 02

  We're gonna down some tequila sodas.

• 11:35Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 11:36Speaker 02

  Health and wellness.

• 11:37Speaker 01

  Just get drunk for five days straight.

• 11:39Speaker 02

  Literally, yeah. I don't know, these next songs, I like, usually I'm one to like tease the crap out of them. Like, I'm like, "There's this one and this one and this one." And I'm just like, "Oh, I can't give away too much yet because..." I'm like the most proud of this next album of all my stuff.

• 11:56Speaker 01

  From what I've heard, from what you've played me, so good. I mean, you know, when you played me Blank, I can't. But like, she played me this one song and I listen to it every single, it's amazing.

• 12:11Speaker 02

  Thanks. Yeah, I'm obsessed with that one. I feel like that one really is like bar for bar. I didn't, I told no lies. I feel like writing for me is so therapeutic, because like I can write that song and now it's like done. You know, like I have nothing else to feel in that situation. Because I wrote it and now that's a song that was like, you know, lived inside me and now it's like eh, that's for everyone else to enjoy now.

• 12:40Speaker 01

  Do you usually write your songs in like one session? Or do you like, did that song take, like what are you like your?

• 12:45Speaker 02

  Oh yeah, that song was like 30 minutes.

• 12:46Speaker 01

  What?

• 12:47Speaker 02

  Because it was like, we're gonna say exactly what happened. I mean, it takes you through exactly. And it like, I love that it touches on all the points because it's like, oh, well, she should have known. And it's like, yeah, well, if he did this, then you wouldn't have known either.

• 13:00Speaker 01

  Right, of course.

• 13:01Speaker 02

  So it's all the, I feel like it just checks all of the boxes. And I'm, I love that one and I'm glad I sent it to you because now you can crash out whenever you want.

• 13:10Speaker 01

  I do all the time. Also, like, do you feel like writing music helps you not live in the past? Because you can let it go?

• 13:19Speaker 02

  Hundred percent, yeah. It's like, I feel so grateful to even like have like the gift of songwriting. Because I'm like, if I didn't have somewhere to put those feelings, they would just be like, you know. Yes, and, and it truly is like, I felt like after I wrote, I almost said the title. After I wrote that song that we're talking about, like I never wrote another song about that situation again. Because it's like, I said what I need to say.

• 13:44Speaker 01

  Right.

• 13:44Speaker 02

  And now, some people are gonna relate to it and that can be something that we all share together now. But I don't like feel it anymore, like in me, you know?

• 13:52Speaker 01

  Do you believe that when you perform a song?

• 13:55Speaker 02

  That was black.

• 13:56Speaker 01

  No, like, I know what you mean.

• 13:58Speaker 02

  I don't know why I said it like that, but it's like, that's so strange.

• 14:02Speaker 01

  Well, literally. Do you believe though that like?

• 14:07Speaker 02

  Oh god.

• 14:08Speaker 01

  When you release a song, like it's not yours anymore, it's everybody else's. So like the mean, you would dis, you don't attach meaning to it any, like you attach. Because I, I forget what show I was at the other day. Who was it? Was it Gaga? I think it was Lady Gaga. Was it Lady Gaga?

• 14:24Speaker 02

  I don't know what you're about to say.

• 14:25Speaker 01

  Okay. Well, somebody, I was at a show and somebody was like, I wrote this song. And now it's like so not about me. It's like, I like, don't even feel what this, what, when I wrote this, like, I don't even feel what I was feeling when I wrote it. It's about like everybody else. Like, this song is for everybody now.

• 14:44Speaker 02

  A hundred percent. I have a song called Girl in the Mirror that's like that for me. I literally, the hook is like, I love the boy more than I love the girl in the mirror. And when I wrote that, it was like something that I needed to be, like, I needed to remind myself.

• 14:58Speaker 01

  Right.

• 14:58Speaker 02

  Because I knew it was true, but it's like, once you write it down and you have to sing it, you're like, oh shit, like, the first time I performed it, I cried. And I was like, what, like, I tried to get myself to stop crying and I couldn't. And I was like, holy shit. And it's just because like you're admitting to people that like at one point, you cared about them and their happiness way more than yourself. And that's like, really like, damn, like, how did I let myself get that way when I'm, you know, I grew up so confident and bubbly and stuff. Um, and so that song now though, because now I would rather like die than shrink myself for a man. Um, it's more so like, there's so much strength in it because these girls that I see sobbing to it.

• 15:36Speaker 01

  Right.

• 15:36Speaker 02

  Like, I'm up there singing it with confidence and it's empowering because I'm like, I don't feel this way anymore. And I know you feel this way right now, but like one day, if you choose yourself, like you're not going to be in that situation.

• 15:47Speaker 01

  What, at what age did you think, you're like, okay, like, I choose myself?

• 15:52Speaker 02

  Like, six months ago.

• 15:57Speaker 01

  Are you serious?

• 15:58Speaker 02

  Um, no, but like, there's, like, I would say, like, this year is the first year I've really stood on business.

• 16:05Speaker 01

  You always stand on business.

• 16:06Speaker 02

  That's not true.

• 16:07Speaker 01

  Yes, it is true.

• 16:09Speaker 02

  I wrote a song called, I Know You. Have you heard that on M R K?

• 16:12Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 16:13Speaker 02

  That is like the long distance situationship, like, him and I just like couldn't get away from each other. And like, I was not standing on business.

• 16:21Speaker 01

  But like,

• 16:21Speaker 02

  Now, I'm like, at, at like a hint of disrespect. I'm like, I'm out.

• 16:26Speaker 01

  What is like a hint of disrespect for you?

• 16:29Speaker 02

  Um, just like the second I feel that I'm not being treated the way I deserve, whether it's like I find out there's like you're lying a little bit, or just like not showing up for me in the way that I'm showing up for them, or whatever it is, just like any sort of like things that feel off. Where in my past relationships, I've like stuck around and forgave them and heard them out. I'm like, no, fuck you.

• 16:50Speaker 01

  Wait, but I did, I did want to talk about, because when we got dinner in Nashville, we talked about, you're like, you went to Georgia, and you started by like posting covers online with your family, right?

• 17:00Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 17:00Speaker 01

  And girls in your sorority were not nice about it.

• 17:03Speaker 02

  Um, yeah, not very supportive, no. I mean, there was, there was a few for sure, but for the most part, it was like, oh, this girl like thinks she's gonna be a country singer. She's like, because I, to be fair, I was playing for tips like at a restaurant. So like, I get it.

• 17:19Speaker 01

  No, I think that's how a lot of people start out.

• 17:21Speaker 02

  Yeah, I get people doubting though, you know, I'm like, okay, that's fair.

• 17:25Speaker 01

  Right.

• 17:26Speaker 02

  Um, but yeah, it was, they weren't very nice about it. And now they like text me and they're like, oh my God, we always believed in you. And I'm like, okay.

• 17:38Speaker 01

  No, you didn't.

• 17:38Speaker 02

  Thanks.

• 17:39Speaker 01

  And do you, so, but you started though, because you had to, you performed, uh, was it a sorority event?

• 17:46Speaker 02

  Yeah, it was a philanthropy event.

• 17:48Speaker 01

  Chase Rice was in the audience.

• 17:48Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 17:49Speaker 01

  What was that like? And what did you sing?

• 17:52Speaker 02

  Um, so at the time, I wasn't writing my own songs. So I sang Merry Go Round, Mama's Broken Heart, and probably like Wide Open Spaces or something.

• 18:01Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 18:02Speaker 02

  And I opened for John Langston, because we didn't have money to pay an opener, because we spent all of our money on him. So I did it for free, and then Chase was there and he was like, you know, like, I really like your voice, why don't you come open for me at the Georgia Theater next month? Like first of three, I'm not gonna pay you, but still a cool opportunity. Which I was like, don't, I'll pay you.

• 18:21Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah.

• 18:23Speaker 02

  Um, and...

• 18:25Speaker 02

  He was like, the only thing is, is like, you only played covers today and I want you to play an original song. Like, I don't want you to just do covers. Um, so if you play an original, like, you can open for me. And so I wrote my first song.

• 18:37Speaker 01

  Which was?

• 18:38Speaker 02

  Stay in memory.

• 18:38Speaker 01

  Stay in memory?

• 18:39Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 18:40Speaker 01

  So have you ever seen Star is Born?

• 18:42Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 18:43Speaker 01

  So that's you?

• 18:45Speaker 02

  Um, a little bit.

• 18:47Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 18:47Speaker 02

  I love that movie.

• 18:48Speaker 01

  And then when did you, then after you wrote Stay in Memory, what, like, did you just keep writing, keep writing, keep writing?

• 18:55Speaker 02

  Yeah, so after that show, I really wanted to move to Nashville because Chase was like, just drop out of school, you don't need your degree. Like musicians, like, if you're gonna make it, you need to be in Nashville. So I told my parents, I was like, Chase said I should just move to Nashville and I don't need to get my degree. And my parents were like, sweetheart.

• 19:13Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 19:13Speaker 02

  That's not gonna happen.

• 19:15Speaker 01

  And you stayed in school?

• 19:16Speaker 02

  So I stayed in school. But once I like, once I performed for the first time and I actually heard the audience sing Strawberry Wine Back to me, which like, wasn't even a song that I wrote. But it was just like, so rewarding to hear like, a room full of people all come together and like, scream words to a song we all love. That's when I like, got the bug for it. And I was like, I gotta figure out how I'm gonna move to Nashville. So I kinda just prepared myself to move to Nashville. So I, I was an accounting major and I switched from accounting to like, marketing and digital marketing. And then I, you know, got in the music business program at Georgia to try to like, learn everything I could. And then I graduated in 2020, over Zoom.

• 19:54Speaker 01

  No.

• 19:55Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 19:56Speaker 01

  In that, were you in Nashville at the time?

• 19:58Speaker 02

  Yeah, I had already moved. I was like, as soon as I found out like, we weren't going back to school, I was like, okay, well, I'm going to Nashville.

• 20:04Speaker 01

  And then what song do you feel as though you were like, okay, this is my full-time job? And I can like, this is going to be my full-time job?

• 20:13Speaker 02

  I think it was Hair Salon.

• 20:15Speaker 01

  I love Hair Salon.

• 20:17Speaker 02

  Because I was having like, writers that I really look up to, like Luke Laird is one of them, who I worked on this last album with, or the next one with a lot. And he like, reached out and complimented the song and I was like, so I think like, that was the song where like, writers that I really looked up to in Nashville started to like, be like, oh, she's like, actually can write a song. Of course, there were some people that was like, oh, she got lucky. Do it again, you know?

• 20:41Speaker 01

  And you did.

• 20:42Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 20:44Speaker 01

  Do you, is Hair Salon based on a true story? Like, were you in a chair at Bernadette's Hair Salon? And did you hear? Three seats down, somebody talking about your ex-boyfriend.

• 20:55Speaker 02

  Yeah, the weirdest thing about Hair Salon, like I so believe that like my career is just like such a god thing. Because even like Chase Rice randomly being there and being like, "Open, write a song." And I was like, "Okay," like that's like, just feels very like such a god thing. I feel like Hair Salon, I had a dream that that happened. Like, I had a dream that an ex that I was not over at the time got engaged and three chairs down there like all show it. They're like, "Oh, my God, they got engaged. Like, look at these pictures. They look so good together." And I can see my hometown Hair Salon and I'm looking out the window like the other way, trying not to cry. And that's like all I remembered from the dream. And then I had the idea and I brought it into like some songwriters that I love writing with.

• 21:36Speaker 02

  And we like wrote it and it was like, that's just so weird, you know?

• 21:41Speaker 01

  That is so fate.

• 21:42Speaker 02

  It's like, I don't, I would have never, because that didn't actually happen to me and I write about things that happened to me. Like, I had to dream it for that to like even be a thing, you know? It's crazy.

• 21:51Speaker 01

  Did you call Bernadette? Were you like?

• 21:53Speaker 02

  Oh, Bernadette is like, she's got a picture, a framed picture of me in her salon. I have it like signed out to Bernadette. Yeah, she came to, um, she comes to my shows whenever I'm in Georgia because she lives there, but.

• 22:04Speaker 01

  Is Georgia your favorite city to play?

• 22:06Speaker 02

  Um, yeah, I mean, I, no, I have a few favorites, honestly. Georgia's definitely, like being home is always fun and I feel like they take ownership of me, which I really love. And I feel like Tennessee, because I wrote Tennessee Orange, they also take ownership of me. So like anywhere in Georgia, Tennessee, always a good time. Two like cities that I have no personal connection to, but I really love are Boston and Chicago. They're crazy. They're like, every single time, they're like bonkers. And I'm like, "Am I from here?"

• 22:36Speaker 01

  Did you write, wait, so did you write Tennessee Orange on your kitchen floor?

• 22:41Speaker 02

  Let me think. Tennessee Orange was an idea that I brought in, um, and then I ended up rewriting the. Like the bridge and some verses and stuff like that, but yeah, I just like brought the idea in and then I finished it, I guess in my kitchen, yeah.

• 22:55Speaker 01

  How did Tennessee Orange start? Like, what was the initial idea for it? Like, how, like, what was like the first round of lyrics you were like? And like, how do you start? Do you start a song from the chorus or the verse, or does it just switch up?

• 23:04Speaker 02

  Well, that song in particular, I thought of the hook, which is like in Georgia, they call it a sin. I'm wearing Tennessee orange for him because I was literally in a Tennessee shirt. And I looked in the mirror and I was like, my mom's like a die hard Georgia fan. And I was like, if my mom saw me in this shirt, like she would kill me. Because my mom, like, I've never like worn another like team shirt, like as a Georgia girl, like you don't do that. And um, so I thought of the hook and then we were kind of writing it. I wanted it to be like, I'm calling my mom and letting her know like something bad has happened. Like, that's why I say like, it ain't what you think. Like, I'm not pregnant. I'm still writing songs. I'm not quitting music, you know what I mean?

• 23:42Speaker 01

  Right.

• 23:42Speaker 02

  Like, I, I think like, that's in my brain how we were gonna structure the song was like, Mom, I'm calling, you're gonna freak out.

• 23:50Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 23:51Speaker 02

  Um, and then it kind of just, it just came naturally. I mean, I wanted to like make some Tennessee references. So like Athens and Neyland are in the second verse and then um, Rocky Tops in the bridge and then the day before I recorded the song, we added, I still want the dogs to win. Because I was like-

• 24:08Speaker 01

  So good.

• 24:09Speaker 02

  Because I was like, how? My Georgia people are gonna be so pissed off and that, that line saved me a lot, but there's still some Georgia people that are like, she needs her diploma revoked.

• 24:19Speaker 01

  No way. Like, like, and they say it seriously?

• 24:22Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 24:23Speaker 01

  When you released that, were people that you knew from college? Like, how could you?

• 24:27Speaker 02

  Uh, I think a few of them, but I, like, the most, if you understand like SEC rivalry, it's like, oh damn, she really likes him if she's gonna like, switch like, teams to like-

• 24:38Speaker 01

  Is Tennessee versus Georgia a big rivalry?

• 24:40Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 24:40Speaker 01

  Understood. And when you performed that song in Tennessee, is it like somebody is getting like possessed?

• 24:46Speaker 02

  Yeah. A hundred percent, a hundred percent. Except for when I say I still want the dogs to win, I get booed there. But then in Athens, that's like the loudest line of the song. So, yeah.

• 24:55Speaker 01

  I am so excited to see that song live.

• 24:58Speaker 02

  I know, it's gonna be so fun.

• 24:59Speaker 01

  What's the capacity at the Greek?

• 25:02Speaker 03

  The Greek is 5,900.

• 25:04Speaker 01

  So you're doing 10,000 people? Wow.

• 25:06Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 25:07Speaker 01

  Are you excited?

• 25:08Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's gonna be so fun. Are you kidding?

• 25:09Speaker 01

  I cannot wait.

• 25:11Speaker 02

  I can't wait to like, see you at the show. Like, where are you gonna stand? We need to like, plan it out, cuz I need like, Jake's reaction. I know, like, should he come up for him? Am I okay?

• 25:20Speaker 01

  What do you, what would I do?

• 25:22Speaker 02

  Just jump up and down.

• 25:23Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 25:25Speaker 02

  There's confetti and stuff.

• 25:26Speaker 01

  Yes! I am, oh my god, I'm so excited to see it all live. Like, I, oh. You know what we need to talk about?

• 25:34Speaker 02

  Sun Chips?

• 25:37Speaker 02

  Sorry.

• 25:37Speaker 01

  I hate Sun Chips.

• 25:39Speaker 02

  We needed to get that out of the way first.

• 25:40Speaker 01

  I know, I hate Sun Chips.

• 25:43Speaker 02

  I think that's crazy.

• 25:46Speaker 01

  You like the Harvest?

• 25:46Speaker 02

  I think we have much different palettes, I fear.

• 25:49Speaker 01

  I don't know if I'm like, traumatized from them, cuz I like, they were given to me.

• 25:52Speaker 02

  And specifically Harvest Cheddar, which is what I was offended by.

• 25:57Speaker 01

  I think if I were to have Sun Chips, it would be like, the plain flavor.

• 26:00Speaker 02

  Oh, god, see, I'm offended by that as well, and I, I would post a hard post that says disgusting.

• 26:05Speaker 01

  Oh, on the plain flavor?

• 26:07Speaker 02

  Um, I will say that in the hierarchy of Sun Chips, I think Harvest Cheddar ranks second.

• 26:12Speaker 01

  What's first?

• 26:12Speaker 02

  Garden salsa is the obvious choice.

• 26:15Speaker 01

  I mean, that is my 13th reason. That Garden salsa, like, I think is so despicable.

• 26:21Speaker 02

  Oh my gosh. What about, like, what do you, what chips do you eat with a turkey sandwich?

• 26:26Speaker 01

  I love a turkey sandwich. Like potato chips. Like Utz potato chips.

• 26:31Speaker 02

  Okay, I don't think I know that brand.

• 26:33Speaker 01

  Okay, so don't you worry, I have it in bulk at my house.

• 26:37Speaker 02

  Okay, perfect.

• 26:37Speaker 01

  So before you leave, I'm gonna give you an Utz barbecue chip, and an Utz plain chip.

• 26:41Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 26:41Speaker 01

  Okay? They will change your life. You're gonna say, "Hey, these kinda taste like Lay's." They don't.

• 26:46Speaker 02

  Okay, got it. I, I appreciate a good chip. I'm a chip girl. I actually have the Sun Chips, Sun Chip, like, the Harvest Cheddar ones, on my rider.

• 26:55Speaker 01

  What's your rider?

• 26:56Speaker 02

  Sun Chips, veggie tray.

• 26:59Speaker 01

  Ooh, yum.

• 27:00Speaker 02

  Uh, beef sticks.

• 27:02Speaker 01

  She loves beef sticks.

• 27:03Speaker 02

  Mmm, a Chomps beef stick? Boy.

• 27:08Speaker 02

  Boy, if you don't, um...

• 27:12Speaker 02

  My Alani new, the watermelon wave flavor, um, cold brew. Essential water, the big one. It's really like not that interesting. Like, oh, the peanut butter, um, pretzels.

• 27:26Speaker 01

  I love peanut butter pretzels.

• 27:28Speaker 02

  Love.

• 27:29Speaker 01

  You know what's so funny about peanut butter, and this is so random, but do you ever feel like there's something that your palate, like your taste palate, like, got accustomed to as you grew older? Like, I used to hate tomatoes, love tomatoes now.

• 27:40Speaker 02

  Um, let me think. Yeah, I've always loved tomatoes. Um, oh, like Brussels sprouts. I fuck with the Brussels sprout now.

• 27:47Speaker 01

  And you used to not?

• 27:48Speaker 02

  I used to not. Especially if they're like crispy. I've kind of realized though that like all vegetables I eat need to be like on fire and then taken out of the oven. You know what I mean?

• 27:58Speaker 01

  I agree with you.

• 27:59Speaker 02

  Yeah, like if they're soggy and steamed, I'm like.

• 28:02Speaker 01

  Oh, I like steamed broccoli. You don't like steamed broccoli?

• 28:04Speaker 02

  Mm-mm. It needs to be like black, like the edges, and then I eat the edges first.

• 28:09Speaker 01

  Oh, okay. Do you cook?

• 28:10Speaker 02

  No.

• 28:11Speaker 01

  Okay, right, right, right.

• 28:12Speaker 02

  No. Flaw.

• 28:14Speaker 01

  Right. No, that's not a flaw.

• 28:16Speaker 02

  Uh, it's one of my cons.

• 28:20Speaker 01

  What do you think your cons are?

• 28:22Speaker 02

  Inability to cook.

• 28:25Speaker 02

  Um, never being home, or like, is this just in general as a human being?

• 28:29Speaker 01

  Yeah, just in general.

• 28:30Speaker 02

  Um, I would say, so I'm not dirty, but I'm messy. So like, like I'm not gonna leave food or anything out, but like, when I get dressed.

• 28:41Speaker 01

  I.

• 28:41Speaker 02

  My mom called it Hurricane Megan growing up. It's just like, the, the, the thought of putting things back where they belong doesn't even cross my mind.

• 28:49Speaker 01

  Because you're just like.

• 28:50Speaker 02

  And it becomes a tomorrow problem.

• 28:52Speaker 01

  Because it's just like, it's left.

• 28:53Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 28:53Speaker 01

  It's left at home.

• 28:54Speaker 02

  You didn't make the cut, you're on the ground now.

• 28:56Speaker 01

  Yes, yes.

• 28:56Speaker 02

  And you're next to the shoes and I know exactly where you are, but you're not getting attention today. I mean, there's been sometimes like, if I'm like dating a guy and he comes over without like warning, and then I'm like, whoa, don't go in my room.

• 29:07Speaker 01

  Right, because it's a hot mess.

• 29:08Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 29:11Speaker 01

  You have performed now with Tate, like adore, twice now. And like, tell me how that friendship started and everything.

• 29:18Speaker 02

  I just love her so much. She's so much fun and like the sweetest and she's so talented. Like I could go on and on, but yeah, so last year she, I guess we've been like following each other on Instagram for a while.

• 29:32Speaker 02

  I've obviously been a fan of hers for a while. I didn't know if she knew who I was for, there for a second. But um, we were Instagram friends and then she was like, I'm playing in Nashville. Do you want to like do Tennessee Orange or like, I can't remember how it went, but we did Tennessee Orange at that like amphitheater. And then this year again, she was playing Bridgestone and I happened to be home that day, which is like really rare because it was a Thursday. And usually I have shows Thursday to Saturday, but I didn't. So I was like, this is perfect. And we did like the emo version of Six Months Later.

• 30:02Speaker 01

  So good.

• 30:03Speaker 02

  She like kills any song she does. Also her tour.

• 30:08Speaker 01

  Were you not like so gagged beyond belief?

• 30:11Speaker 02

  My jaw from the intro up until I had to leave to go backstage, I was just like,

• 30:19Speaker 02

  I was like, I don't know if I want to be her. I don't know if I'm in love with her. Like, and, and she's my friend and I, I think she's like a superhuman because not only is she so talented, she's like so normal and kind. I'm like, wait, like the intro where it's like the silhouette, I was like.

• 30:37Speaker 01

  And then she go, and then she, this like just like beams down on her. It's like the actual, it's, I don't understand how she doesn't get tired.

• 30:45Speaker 02

  I know. I was literally, we went out after and she was like, she's the one that was like, do you want to go to a bar after? I'm like,

• 30:52Speaker 02

  sure, where are we going? Um, and we went to Broadway, but just like her energy and even like all the dancers, I'm like, y'all just played like the longest show. Of like, it's a full workout, you know, it's like a two hour workout.

• 31:04Speaker 01

  Right.

• 31:05Speaker 02

  Um, and y'all have energy to then go out and have just as much energy. It's, it's insane. It was so much fun though. They're like all so talented and kind. I just love her.

• 31:14Speaker 01

  She's the greatest. You guys should clap on a song one day.

• 31:18Speaker 02

  I wish. I think we, I think if we like got. Time to write, like it would be, it would be fire.

• 31:24Speaker 01

  You have to do it.

• 31:25Speaker 02

  Our new song, the Tip or Tat.

• 31:27Speaker 04

  Oh my god.

• 31:29Speaker 01

  Sickening.

• 31:30Speaker 02

  I know.

• 31:30Speaker 01

  Sickening.

• 31:31Speaker 02

  We've had it on repeat in my green room. Like, that's the only thing we listen to. People like, my openers are probably like, "Oh my god, does she know any other songs?" And I'm like, "No."

• 31:40Speaker 01

  I listened to it for the first time in the car the other day. Hit.

• 31:43Speaker 02

  She ate.

• 31:44Speaker 01

  She ate.

• 31:45Speaker 02

  I love her.

• 31:46Speaker 01

  Okay, I think I do need you guys to write a song together, actually.

• 31:48Speaker 02

  I would love that. I also like told her to, because she's so young. Like, I'm 27. Isn't she like 22?

• 31:54Speaker 01

  22, yeah.

• 31:55Speaker 02

  Yeah. I was just like telling her, I'm like, "You do like such a good job of handling everything. Like, you're such a superstar." And I feel like I'm at the perfect age right now to be dealing with all of this. But if I was your age, I don't know if I'd be handling it as well. So I was like, "Good job, Tate." You're killing it, sister. Like, she should be proud of herself.

• 32:15Speaker 01

  Do you, so are you about to enter your Saturn return? Or do you feel like you've already entered it?

• 32:20Speaker 02

  What does that mean?

• 32:21Speaker 01

  A Saturn return is like...

• 32:23Speaker 02

  I know Casey says it, but I just sing along. My Saturn.

• 32:26Speaker 01

  Can you explain what a Saturn return is?

• 32:27Speaker 04

  Saturn comes around every like 27 to 30 years. And apparently, look, like, I might not get the facts completely right, but basically when you're 27 to 30, you have this like major life reckoning where you like, if you're not on the path that you're meant to be on, the universe will...

• 32:46Speaker 01

  Shift it.

• 32:47Speaker 04

  Will shift it.

• 32:48Speaker 01

  Ooh, I actually don't want to talk about this anymore.

• 32:49Speaker 04

  No, no, no, but it's...

• 32:52Speaker 04

  It's like in a good way. It's like you just, you like, really come into yourself, is like the non-scary way of saying.

• 32:57Speaker 02

  Okay, yeah. I think I'm there. I think I'm like, in the past year, I would say, I've gotten just like so much more confident in myself and like, I know exactly who I am and I know exactly who I want to be surrounded by. And it's just like, like I said, standing on business, I don't allow people to treat me like shit. I feel like before, I let a lot of things slide because I would look for the best in people. And I think that's a good thing to look for the best in people, but not so much that it like, you know, tears apart your mental health.

• 33:28Speaker 01

  Right.

• 33:28Speaker 02

  Trying to hope that they do good. Because you know they're capable of it.

• 33:32Speaker 01

  Right. And how is your mental health with like, like when you signed up to be a singer, like, were you like, okay, like, did you ever anticipate?

• 33:41Speaker 01

  Like such heavy discourse online about your art and what you do.

• 33:46Speaker 02

  God, no. It was like so rough at first. I feel like once again, this year is like the first year I've actually been able to be like stable about it. And I think I've had so much shit about me now that I'm pretty numb to it, which I think is just something that happens when there's like that many people saying negative things about you. I think now too that it's like, I feel I put more weight into the people that love me and love my music than I do the people who are just like commenting hateful things on everything they see. And yeah, it was a struggle though. I mean, like, I feel like this year is the first year of like live TV performances that I haven't like absolutely hated because before I would be so anxious

• 34:31Speaker 02

  because I would be like, I know this is about to go on TV and everyone's gonna rip me apart for it. This is like going through my head before I even start singing. You know what I mean? So it's like, that was a horrible place to be at mentally. And now I feel like I, this is like what I'm put on earth to do for now at least. So I need to like not let the opinions of people who don't matter to me affect anything that I do. And I feel like this is the first year that I've, I feel like I've always known that, but like this is the first year that I've actually been able to be like, yeah, like fuck the haters. Fuck you guys, like.

• 35:02Speaker 01

  Do you have any like coping mechanisms you use if you see something or hear something?

• 35:08Speaker 02

  It's kind of crazy. I'm like totally numb to it now. It doesn't affect me at all. I kind of like laugh now, which I don't know. But I'm like, I just like when you have everyone saying everything like, oh, she's ugly. She can't sing. Who, who let her wear that? Like, it's just like,

• 35:24Speaker 01

  Right.

• 35:25Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 35:26Speaker 01

  Do you remember the moment where you realized it wasn't hurting you as it, as much as it used to?

• 35:33Speaker 02

  Um, I think.

• 35:36Speaker 02

  No, I don't remember the specific moment. I just remember like after like performances, I wouldn't like cry myself to sleep anymore. Cause I would literally go do that and then cry because I knew people would be so mean to me. And it's like, I think for myself, it's also been having more compassion for myself. Like, this is my first time doing this shit, you know? So if I'm like, performing somewhere, like even the VMAs, that was my first time at the VMAs. So I allowed myself to be like, you're gonna be nervous because you've never done this. There's Sabrina Carpenter right there. You've never met her before. Holy shit, you love her though. So there's her. There's Lady Gaga, there's Ariana Grande, and you're gonna be nervous, but that's okay, because you've never done this before. Rather than like, I think before I was like, you have to be perfect, because everyone's already gonna rip you apart, and you already know what they're gonna say about

• 36:20Speaker 02

  you, so you need to really bring it. And now it's like,

• 36:24Speaker 01

  Right.

• 36:24Speaker 02

  I'm doing my best.

• 36:26Speaker 01

  Right. And there's so many people that love you.

• 36:28Speaker 02

  Yeah, I think it's just important to focus on like my fans. And, cause I know that even like the fans that I meet, just out in the wild, like they're so kind. And like, those are the kind of, that's, that's real. You know, like people that just come up to you, and they're so sweet and kind. And like, random anonymous profiles saying shit about you. I'm like, me? Doesn't really do it for me anymore.

• 36:51Speaker 01

  Do you have any friends in the industry that you can be like, okay, you get it?

• 36:55Speaker 02

  Kenny Chesney.

• 36:56Speaker 01

  Okay, tell me more.

• 36:58Speaker 02

  Yeah, he's been, so I got to open for him last year, um, on a stadium tour. And he's become like such a close friend and mentor. And there was a time where I was like really crashing out over like this article that got posted, and a lot of it wasn't true. Kenny came to my house, because he was like, you need to like chill out. He was like, you are, you are building something so special, the connection you have with your fans. And like, you are letting these like people eat your lunch. Like, that's what he said. And I was like, oh shit. I was like, you ain't eating my damn lunch today. So, he just like came over and like hyped me up. My parents were in town. Um, and so my parents like thanked him a million times for coming and doing that, because he really just like talked

• 37:38Speaker 02

  some sense into me when I was crashing out. But, it's like so nice to have, um, a friend like Kenny that can, he's been through it all. Like, he knows what it's like to have people talk bad about him. And even like, anything really, because he's been doing it for so long. So, he always has the best advice. And he talks some sense into me. None of that matters. What matters is my songwriting, um, my fans, and-

• 38:03Speaker 02

  My path.

• 38:04Speaker 01

  Right.

• 38:04Speaker 02

  It's like crazy what like how public perception can be like shifted based on untrue things. It's really crazy.

• 38:12Speaker 01

  It's just like, I feel like in the age of like TikTok, TikTok can be so beneficial, but it can also be so harmful because like you'll get a video, it'll have 500,000 likes.

• 38:22Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 38:22Speaker 01

  And a bunch of comments. So of course you're going to be like, well, it's caught a lot of traction. So why wouldn't it be true?

• 38:27Speaker 02

  Right. Dude, the amount of, I get, this is embarrassing. I get stomped by the AI videos. Like, you know, the little golden retriever that was like swimming around a living room or something like that. I was like, I was like, oh my God, how did that happen?

• 38:41Speaker 02

  And then like 20 minutes later, I'm like, oh.

• 38:44Speaker 01

  What about the kangaroo with the plane ticket? Did you get stumped by that one?

• 38:46Speaker 02

  Haven't seen that one.

• 38:47Speaker 01

  Okay. You would get stumped by that one, I think, maybe. If you're getting stumped by a golden retriever swimming in a living room. Because I was almost stumped by the kangaroo.

• 38:56Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 38:57Speaker 01

  What is your favorite place that you've been able to travel to because of this job? Like outside of the US?

• 39:04Speaker 02

  Um, hmm. I love St. Bart's. I took my family there last year, like after, oh my gosh, really?

• 39:12Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 39:13Speaker 02

  We have to go there too.

• 39:14Speaker 01

  Yeah, we do.

• 39:14Speaker 02

  Mentally noted. Take Jake and Tate to St. Bart's. Got it? Uh, I love St. Bart's. I took my family there. It's so beautiful. And then I also just love the Bahamas. I recorded a lot of my vocals off my new album there. There's a studio down there.

• 39:30Speaker 01

  And you, okay, so when, so does it feel like work for you? Because if you're doing that even when you're on vacation and you're like, I need to do this. Like this isn't work to me. Like what feels like work to you?

• 39:41Speaker 02

  Um, it felt like work when like they all went on a boat trip and I had to go in the studio and sing. But, but like other than that, it's just, I felt like, I don't know. Maybe my Saturn has returned because I'm like, I just feel so content and like everything is just like enjoyable. Like I'm, feel so grateful that I've been doing this for. What, when I signed my record deal, like three years now, maybe? And I just like-

• 40:07Speaker 01

  It's only been three years?

• 40:08Speaker 02

  I think so, right? Um-

• 40:10Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 40:11Speaker 02

  But I just like, and I know I'm only three years in, yeah, talk to me in forty years.

• 40:15Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 40:15Speaker 02

  Um, but like, I just enjoy it so much still. Like, even going in the studio, I get so excited. And the shows, like, usually there's like an aspect, I feel like I've talked to other artists, there's an aspect that they don't like, whether it's like, social media, or touring, or whatever it is, and writing, and I'm like, I love all of it. And so, it's just like, really rewarding. And to be able to record vocals for my new album, and then like, go to dinner on the beach, I'm like-

• 40:42Speaker 01

  This is the life.

• 40:42Speaker 02

  Is this real?

• 40:43Speaker 01

  Yeah. I was gonna ask, well, cuz you've had the friends that you've been friends with, you've been friends forever. Especially Natalie, right? And did you and Natalie meet freshman year?

• 40:53Speaker 02

  Yeah, we met the first day on bid day, um, in our sorority. So, I remember like, her and I were terrified. We didn't drink in, um, high school. So when we got to college, we thought like, bid day was gonna be like, we're watching movies,

• 41:09Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 41:10Speaker 02

  and like, wearing matching pajamas that are monogrammed.

• 41:12Speaker 01

  Right.

• 41:13Speaker 02

  That is not the case. And I'm not gonna elaborate, cuz I'm pretty sure they could get in trouble.

• 41:17Speaker 01

  Right.

• 41:18Speaker 02

  But, we did not watch movies. And, and there was no matching pajamas. But, um, so her and I were kinda just a little scared. Like, we both went into college with boyfriends too. So like, you know, going around to all the frats and stuff, I was like, um, I'm being a loyal girlfriend.

• 41:35Speaker 01

  Right, right.

• 41:36Speaker 02

  Um, and yeah, so her and I bonded pretty quickly. We became like, immediately best friends. We actually, our first social, we were going to, we were really going outside the box by attending a, like, a social with a fraternity. And on the way home from Party City, I remember it was like, America themed or something. We got rear-ended by someone. Like, we were in the same car together, and we got rear-ended and it pushed us into another car. So it was like a three-car accident.

• 42:03Speaker 01

  Oh my god.

• 42:04Speaker 02

  Like, the first time that we've spent like, a lot of time together, you know? So waiting on the cop and stuff, we had to like go to Steak and Shake. And we were at Steak and Shake for like four hours together. And then my brother came and like got her bumper off of her car. So then she met my brother. Like it was very much like after that day specifically too, we were like besties. Like no one, if they couldn't find Natalie, they were like, they asked me and if they couldn't find me, they'd be like, well Natalie.

• 42:30Speaker 01

  And you guys lived together for the rest of college?

• 42:32Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 42:33Speaker 01

  And then you guys started doing, pursuing social media though together, right?

• 42:36Speaker 02

  Yeah, that was in college. Um, that was like right when the influencer thing was starting. And I just remember like we're broke college kids and like these brands wanted to send us clothes for free. And I'm like, I'll post about it because I don't, like, I don't want to spend money on a game day outfit every week.

• 42:52Speaker 01

  Right.

• 42:53Speaker 02

  So it just started like that. And then, um, yeah, it was just like, we were the sorority influencer girls.

• 43:01Speaker 01

  And it was way, because it is so common to do that today, but back then it was not common.

• 43:06Speaker 02

  Yeah, people, like I said, I don't think, um, everyone thought it was the greatest thing ever. They're kind of mean sometimes, but, um, yeah, Natalie and I, we just stuck it out. And then, um, she's literally getting married next year and we're going to be friends for 10 years next year.

• 43:23Speaker 01

  That's crazy. And you wrote Wonder about her.

• 43:24Speaker 02

  I know, I know. It makes me so emo. Like I literally wrote her that song about saying like, you're going to find a guy that's going to show up for you. And you're not going to wonder if he cares about you or loves you. And she found Alex and he's like perfect for her. And I'm just like.

• 43:39Speaker 01

  Do you, what was it like when you played her that song for the first time?

• 43:43Speaker 02

  She was there. I mean, I, we were literally down at the beach and she was, um, arguing with the guy that she was talking to. Like, you know, when everyone's vibing and then your friends like aggressively texting, like totally not in the conversation. And you're like, someone's pissing her off on the other line.

• 43:56Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 43:57Speaker 02

  Who do I need to kill?

• 43:58Speaker 01

  Right.

• 43:59Speaker 02

  And so it was like that thing and then she was explaining how he was just like stressing her out. And I was like, if he really loved you and cared about you, like you would not be wondering if he did. And then immediately my brain was like, wait, Wonder would be a really cool title. So I'm like drunk on the beach. I have a margarita and a pineapple willies cup. And then, which, do you know what that is? Pineapple willies?

• 44:19Speaker 01

  Of course not.

• 44:20Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 44:20Speaker 01

  Yeah. Is that a southern thing?

• 44:22Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's a Panama City delicacy. So.

• 44:25Speaker 01

  PCB?

• 44:25Speaker 02

  PCB. We have to take you to PCB. That would be so much fun. Megan, Jake and PCB.

• 44:31Speaker 01

  What is PCB?

• 44:33Speaker 02

  It used to be the spring break hotspot.

• 44:35Speaker 01

  Would I survive?

• 44:36Speaker 02

  There was a lot of debauchery happening back in the day. Now I think they're trying to brand it more as like family friendly. But back in the day, not the case.

• 44:44Speaker 01

  Was this PCB trip the same one that somebody liked your Instagram photo?

• 44:50Speaker 02

  Okay, so not the Natalie one, no. That was a few years later. But yeah, I drunkenly wrote "Wonder", like I wrote the first verse in the chorus without a guitar in the water, just the words.

• 45:03Speaker 01

  Were you standing alone?

• 45:04Speaker 02

  Yeah, I was like, I gotta go real quick. I need, I need some alone time. So I walk away from them. I come back and then I got my guitar and finished it that night. And I remember it was actually like so wholesome. I'm sure like somebody has a video of it, but it was like, um, we took like a group trip. So there was maybe like 15 friends all down there. And after I finished the song, like I was sitting on the porch swing and I played the song for everyone. They were like sitting on the porch. And I remember everyone, I think like when I wrote that song was when I realized that like not everyone can write songs because they were so impressed. And I was like, really? I was like, what do you mean? Yeah, I just like Natalie said she was going through this. So I just like wrote it down and made it rhyme.

• 45:46Speaker 02

  And yeah, so now I heard it right away, but it's really wholesome.

• 45:52Speaker 02

  No, I think she was just like, because she didn't know Alex at the time. So she was like going through it. She's like, you're right. I do need someone that does make me wonder. So yeah, it's just crazy. She's getting married now. I'm the maid of honor.

• 46:05Speaker 01

  And obviously you're gonna sing "Wonder" at the wedding.

• 46:08Speaker 02

  They, yeah, I've been, I told them I would sing if they wanted me to. I don't know exactly what I'm gonna sing, but maybe "Wonder", yeah, that makes a lot of sense. Even though like most of the song is like, it's like, is it weird to sing a song about her ex at their wedding?

• 46:21Speaker 01

  No, because it's about finding someone that doesn't make her feel that way.

• 46:23Speaker 02

  And maybe I'll change up the words a little bit to make it more personal to them. Yeah, but I love Alex so much. He's like the best.

• 46:30Speaker 01

  He's great. He came out with us.

• 46:31Speaker 02

  We call him community boyfriend. Yeah. Like when I haven't had boyfriends on Valentine's Day, he'll like for me and Kelly, he like shows up with like balloons and like chocolate and stuff just because he knows we don't have boyfriends. I'm like. So sweet.

• 46:45Speaker 01

  That's really nice.

• 46:46Speaker 02

  He's just like very thoughtful and like anytime, um, like I remember when I first signed my record deal, he like took all of us out to dinner, like just, he's like the best.

• 46:54Speaker 01

  When you signed your record deal, what was the song that got you signed?

• 46:58Speaker 02

  Tennessee Orange.

• 46:59Speaker 01

  And you, and you dropped that on streaming services or like YouTube or?

• 47:03Speaker 02

  Yeah, it was streaming services, but I released it as an independent artist. So I literally like made the cover art on my phone.

• 47:09Speaker 01

  And then when, and how did it, did it take off via TikTok or like, how did it work?

• 47:16Speaker 02

  I posted an acoustic video of me first, like back in March and that kind of blew up and people were like, oh my gosh, we need this song, but it wasn't the studio version. And then, um, I decided to release it like right around football season with like, I did like this, um, campaign with Spotify. So it was like, I just put it out and then as soon as like the official sound was on TikTok, people started making like just relationship videos. It was like really wholesome and they were completely ignoring, I didn't realize how much of a universal song it would be, I guess, because I thought it would be very like, you know, only Georgia and Tennessee people or people that know about, you know, college football rivalries, like only they would know about it. But they were using the part of the song that was like, I met somebody, like he ain't from where we're from, but he feels like home. Like that's the part of the song that they cared about

• 48:01Speaker 02

  more than Tennessee Orange, which I thought, um, was interesting. And I get asked a lot, like, how do you like replicate something like that? And I'm like, I don't think you can. I think it's like, it's so random. Like, I'm like, why, I don't know why they loved that so much.

• 48:15Speaker 01

  You weren't expecting it to do what it did at all?

• 48:17Speaker 02

  No.

• 48:18Speaker 01

  Right. Do you feel like people have like demoitis? Like when you perform a song, when you play it like a song, like on, well, you know, obviously like an acoustic of whatever, and then people want it to sound exactly like that, or when you debut a song live?

• 48:34Speaker 02

  I will say I'm very careful of not doing that to my fans. I, if I'm going to tease it, then I make it very similar to what is recorded. Cause it's like, I don't want them to get attached to something that's like not done.

• 48:46Speaker 01

  Right.

• 48:46Speaker 02

  Um, I think maybe, um, in the past I would have posted like true demos, but nowadays, I mean, I don't really tease music like I used to anymore. Like especially, like I said, with this new album, like I'm so precious about all of it. I'm like, I need, I kind of need everyone to listen to it, like all at the same time. And I don't want there to be too many surprises, but my fans do know there's a song called Wedding Dress coming out. The chorus goes on to say, um, Like, I'm gonna miss him in a wedding dress. Like, don't let me miss him in a wedding dress.

• 49:15Speaker 01

  Just let me get over him.

• 49:17Speaker 02

  Like, yeah.

• 49:18Speaker 01

  By the time I get married to someone else.

• 49:19Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 49:19Speaker 01

  Because you know you're not getting married to him.

• 49:23Speaker 01

  Are you able to talk about, like, a timeline of the new album, or no?

• 49:28Speaker 02

  No.

• 49:29Speaker 01

  Okay, cool.

• 49:30Speaker 02

  The live album.

• 49:31Speaker 01

  The live album's out October 9.

• 49:33Speaker 02

  October 9th, and nobody knows that yet. But the live album was literally not planned. It wasn't in my deal. I got like halfway through the tour and I was like, "Oh my God, it's ending soon." Like, this era is ending soon and I need to remember it. So, I fortunately have the best team ever and they just like, were like, "Okay, I guess we'll like, get everything mixed and together." And, um, so it was like very last minute, but I'm like very attached to this era. So I needed it to be like, a whole live thing. And you'll, once you come to the show, you'll understand why it's necessary. But I was listening to mixes like, late last night and it really puts you like, back in the show. And it's like, I don't know, I guess maybe like, break it right back.

• 50:16Speaker 02

  I think you, and honestly, maybe even Third Time's a Charm, I think you feel more of the emotions when I sing it live than in a studio. Just because like, in a studio, it's just way different. But, I'm excited. I think too, it's just like, I, I call the Amara K tour group therapy because there's just so many, there's so many different kinds of songs. Like, you're crying over "No Cardi," "Don't You Get Tired of Hurting Me." And then, you're like, you sing "Lucky" and you're like, "Oh, we're getting drunk tonight, woo." And then, bless your heart, you're like screaming at the people who bullied you. And then, the girls, you're singing it with your friends. And you're, it's just like, it's a, it's an experience. And so, that's why I was like, before this era ends,

• 51:00Speaker 02

  I have to get the whole thing recorded and just put out. And so I'm literally like, announcing it the night before that it's coming out and then... It'll come out on my birthday, just because I'm like, I'm obsessed with you guys.

• 51:11Speaker 01

  Oh, that's gonna be awesome.

• 51:13Speaker 02

  I'm emotionally attached to the color blue in the Am I OK era, so.

• 51:17Speaker 01

  Okay, so I was about to say, so the lucky era was green, right?

• 51:23Speaker 02

  Green and gold.

• 51:23Speaker 01

  Green and gold. This era was just hues of blue. What, can you say what colors you're thinking of for your next era?

• 51:33Speaker 02

  Um, no, I can't. I don't want to give any hints. My fans have already.

• 51:37Speaker 01

  Picked up on stuff?

• 51:38Speaker 02

  Picked up on stuff, but I will say like, I don't want to toot my own horn. It's my best work, yeah.

• 51:44Speaker 01

  Yeah, let me see.

• 51:47Speaker 01

  Let me see.

• 51:48Speaker 02

  Like, I hate to toot my own horn, but toot motherfucking toot.

• 51:51Speaker 01

  Yeah, toot it.

• 51:54Speaker 01

  Literally toot it.

• 51:57Speaker 02

  Okay, are you ready for the front and back?

• 51:59Speaker 01

  Is this the cover?

• 52:00Speaker 02

  The, yeah.

• 52:01Speaker 01

  Wait, oh my god.

• 52:01Speaker 02

  The right is the front, obviously.

• 52:03Speaker 01

  Shut up.

• 52:07Speaker 02

  I conique.

• 52:09Speaker 01

  This is your best album cover. This is amazing.

• 52:13Speaker 02

  Thank you. I'm sweating now.

• 52:14Speaker 01

  So, obviously, I'm going to the tracklist. Sorry, I'm looking at the tracklist. Sorry, okay.

• 52:19Speaker 02

  What, what is your, out of the list, say your favorite title. We can just bleep it out.

• 52:24Speaker 01

  Wait, I'm sorry. I was not expecting that.

• 52:27Speaker 02

  Oh, you saw it.

• 52:28Speaker 01

  I was not expecting that. My jaw just dropped.

• 52:32Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 52:33Speaker 01

  You, please play it for me.

• 52:35Speaker 02

  I will.

• 52:36Speaker 01

  For your new album, what do you feel like is the most different from the Am I OK era in terms of like, the themes?

• 52:44Speaker 02

  I think the biggest difference with this album is that just like, my feet are so planted and I know exactly who I am. I feel like I've always known who I am, but like, I like know who I am and I'm willing to take risks now, you know? It's like before, it was like, this is who I am, the first two albums, but this is like, yep, this is me.

• 53:00Speaker 01

  Sonically, is there anything different?

• 53:03Speaker 02

  Uh, it's definitely, it's actually interesting because some of the songs, like, could definitely get played on pop radio.

• 53:09Speaker 01

  Really?

• 53:10Speaker 02

  Like, it's, it's straight up country pop, which is exciting. Like, we used sounds I've never used in albums before, and I told my produc- production, my production.

• 53:21Speaker 02

  My producer.

• 53:24Speaker 02

  Told my production, I told my producer to go crazy. But I will say that like, even though some of them lean a little bit more like country pop, all of it is still real instruments and stuff, so. It's still very organic in me. But then again, there's like the most country song I've ever, you know, I'm never gonna release.

• 53:42Speaker 01

  What makes a song like the most country? Like what elements of a song to you are like, this is traditional country?

• 53:49Speaker 02

  I think it's just like, they're traditional melodies and when you hear it, you'll understand. But like in that song I'm talking about that's super traditional, the chorus is, starts lower than the verses. It's like.

• 54:03Speaker 02

  You know what I mean? So it's like, just structured way different than like, a country pop song on the album, you know what I mean? So I do think there's like a little bit of everything.

• 54:12Speaker 01

  Do you see yourself like ever genre shifting? Or do you think country forever?

• 54:18Speaker 02

  Um, I love country music a lot. I mean, that's, I don't listen to a lot of music, but when I do, it's like 2000s country that I grew up on. So I just like, just love country music.

• 54:30Speaker 02

  So I don't know, I mean, I don't even know what I'm eating for dinner, so my plans change all the time. But I do think like,

• 54:38Speaker 02

  yeah, for the foreseeable future, it'll be country, but you'll notice like on this next album, there's definitely some stuff that's like, that never would have been on Lucky or Am I Okay, you know? So, um, I think that's exciting and it's just very like me. Like I don't think it even is a genre, you know what I mean?

• 54:53Speaker 01

  Right, when you were talking about like traditional country melodies, was melodies something that came to you? Like creating a melody for a song, is that something that came to you very naturally? Or was that something you had to learn?

• 55:04Speaker 02

  Um, very naturally, I don't even, I don't, I was telling my dad recently, like I don't even remember learning how to sing harmonies, but I just know them, you know what I mean? Like it just in my head makes sense. And I think it's because he had me listen to a lot of Eagles growing up.

• 55:17Speaker 01

  Do you have any like North Star bucket list moments that you really want to get done in the next few years?

• 55:25Speaker 02

  Ooh, bucket list moments.

• 55:29Speaker 02

  I want to play Bridgestone Arena.

• 55:31Speaker 01

  That's Nashville.

• 55:32Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm, like two nights, probably.

• 55:36Speaker 02

  And what else do I want to do? I want to meet Taylor Swift.

• 55:39Speaker 01

  Oh, like as a songwriter, though, like, what do you see that Taylor Swift does that the general public would never catch? Like, that you're like, oh, that is so cool that she's able to do that?

• 55:48Speaker 02

  Everything. I just think like she, she's so thoughtful and that means a lot as an artist, even like I'm learning, you know what I mean? If you really like put the fans first and put your work first.

• 56:01Speaker 01

  Right.

• 56:02Speaker 02

  Like Torture Poets, that album got me through some shit.

• 56:06Speaker 01

  But Daddy, I Love Him is one of my favorite songs of all time by her.

• 56:09Speaker 02

  Smallest Man Who Ever Lived is my, one of my favorite all times. Like, it's up there with All Too Old 10 Minute Version.

• 56:13Speaker 01

  Is All Too Old 10 Minute Version your favorite?

• 56:15Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm. Cause it's the longest.

• 56:16Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 56:17Speaker 02

  I'm like, I need as much healing as I can get, Taylor.

• 56:20Speaker 01

  That came out when I was in college and I just remember like literally driving around campus with Brett blasting it.

• 56:27Speaker 02

  I was impressed with how quickly I memorized the whole song.

• 56:31Speaker 01

  Me too. It's cause, you want to know what it is? And I, I feel the same way about your music is you're telling a story. So when you're telling a story, you can remember the beginning, the middle and the end and you know how to get there. So then it kind of just comes naturally to you.

• 56:44Speaker 02

  She's a legend. I just, I really want to meet her. So, okay, that was the bucket list. We went on our Taylor Swift tangent.

• 56:50Speaker 01

  Okay, are you ready for the tell me what's wrongs?

• 56:51Speaker 02

  I'm so ready.

• 56:52Speaker 01

  Okay. I was so honored when you told me you actually listened to this show.

• 56:56Speaker 02

  Duh. It gets me through cardio. I hate cardio so much. So it like allows me to dissociate and not just stare at the timer.

• 57:04Speaker 01

  Are there any other podcasts you listen to?

• 57:05Speaker 02

  No. I mean, like, not really. I feel like because we're friends too, I'm like, you make me laugh so much. I was literally telling Jada like on the way here, like there have been days where I've been having a bad day and I literally go and just look at your reenactment videos.

• 57:18Speaker 01

  I need to do those more.

• 57:19Speaker 02

  They're so fucking funny.

• 57:20Speaker 01

  I need to do them more.

• 57:22Speaker 02

  And that's why I'm like, you're such like a light to people because it's so funny and like you're, you're not even trying that hard to be funny. And it really is like, allows you to just like dissociate for a second and be happy.

• 57:33Speaker 01

  I love you.

• 57:34Speaker 02

  I love you.

• 57:35Speaker 01

  I, that made my day. And, uh, my boyfriend constantly forgets important things going on in my life, such as anniversaries, friends' birthdays, and even job interviews. I've told him it makes me feel invalidated and he doesn't seem to fix it. And don't just say break up. He's great besides this.

• 57:53Speaker 02

  When I say dump, you say his ass. Dump.

• 57:56Speaker 01

  His ass.

• 57:57Speaker 02

  Dump.

• 57:58Speaker 01

  His ass.

• 57:59Speaker 02

  Yeah, because I do think that those kind of things are coachable too. You know, like if you're just refusing to acknowledge anniversaries and shit, it's just like, that's a you problem. Like, sure, maybe you forgot once, but like if you say that it bothers you and it hurts your feelings, it's not that hard to like make a note.

• 58:15Speaker 01

  Do you feel like it's deeper than that? Like if a guy is forgetting things like that, like do you think it like goes deeper than just like the surface level forgetting of it all, like he's not listening to you?

• 58:25Speaker 02

  Yeah, I think that just comes off as he doesn't care that much about your feelings.

• 58:30Speaker 01

  What song of yours would you tell her to listen to? Would you prescribe her?

• 58:34Speaker 02

  Hmm. Hmm. Wait, what was, what, could you read it? What was, what's she saying he's doing again?

• 58:41Speaker 01

  She's saying he forgets anniversaries, job interviews, friends' birthdays, and she doesn't want to break up with him because she says he's amazing besides this.

• 58:50Speaker 02

  Oh, um. Hmm. Man on the moon. I don't know, just dump him.

• 59:01Speaker 02

  I don't know, if you, if you've talked to him and he refuses, that's like a problem, you know?

• 59:05Speaker 01

  Right.

• 59:06Speaker 02

  Because like there's going to be larger problems in life where like you have to talk to someone and say like, "Hey, this hurts my feelings." And if he's not, doesn't even like try to be better at it, then it's like, eh.

• 59:15Speaker 01

  Right, he's not listening to you at all.

• 59:16Speaker 02

  Because he doesn't care.

• 59:17Speaker 01

  Right.

• 59:17Speaker 02

  Which is like, it bothered them enough to write into a podcast.

• 59:21Speaker 01

  Right.

• 59:24Speaker 01

  But like, yeah, they just seem to be making excuses maybe.

• 59:28Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 59:28Speaker 01

  Sorry.

• 59:29Speaker 02

  Sorry, man on the moon. Thank you so much, man on the moon, man on the moon.

• 59:33Speaker 01

  My brother-in-law consistently flirts with me. My whole side of the family really, but mostly me. My husband doesn't ever seem to mind, and I didn't really either, but now it's getting on my nerves. I know he's joking, but I also think he's kind of not. Ideas on how to approach this without being overshadowed?

• 59:53Speaker 02

  Skip Thanksgiving.

• 59:56Speaker 02

  Um, that's really odd. I've not ever had an experience like that.

• 1:00:04Speaker 02

  Um.

• 1:00:07Speaker 02

  Does the sister know, do we think? Does, if it doesn't bother the sister, then maybe you're overthinking it.

• 1:00:13Speaker 01

  But maybe the brother-in-law is single?

• 1:00:15Speaker 02

  Wait, brother-in-law?

• 1:00:16Speaker 01

  Her husband's brother is flirting with her.

• 1:00:19Speaker 02

  Her? Oh, I thought, I'm not sure what I thought.

• 1:00:25Speaker 02

  Okay, her husband's brother.

• 1:00:27Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:00:28Speaker 02

  Is he single?

• 1:00:30Speaker 01

  Well, that's, sometimes we miss context here.

• 1:00:32Speaker 02

  Yeah, okay, yeah, I wouldn't worry about it. It's kind of like, okay.

• 1:00:38Speaker 02

  Something weird, I don't know.

• 1:00:40Speaker 01

  So back in January, I was at a party and my friends were literally planning a holiday to Bali in front of me. After the party, I said something and was like, I'd love to go to Bali. Fast-tracked to a week ago, I saw my friends' private snap story that they're all on a plane to Bali without me. So they're not your friends.

• 1:00:58Speaker 02

  Yeah, they're not your friends. And like to leave you on the private snap story, fake.

• 1:01:01Speaker 01

  Right? Like, that's crazy. Have you ever been, have you ever had news broken to you via social media like that before where you've been like?

• 1:01:12Speaker 02

  Yeah, but I don't take things that personally. And it's, I guess it's not happened to a close friend, I would say, like my real, like, solid group of friends wouldn't do that to me, so.

• 1:01:23Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:01:24Speaker 02

  Um, I guess like when I was younger in middle school and stuff, I didn't get invited to parties and stuff like that.

• 1:01:29Speaker 01

  And you would find out via?

• 1:01:30Speaker 02

  Yeah, find out that everyone had fun without me. And I was like, oh, perfect.

• 1:01:34Speaker 01

  But would you even, my thing is like, I used to like go through similar things and it's like, you don't even want to be there if you have to beg to be invited.

• 1:01:40Speaker 02

  Yeah, and I, I always say, yeah, you need better friends. Like my friends, if I wasn't invited to something, there would be like a reasoning behind it or something, you know what I mean? Like it would never be intentional. And that's why I appreciate that about my friend group. Like, you know, if Kelly can come on the road one weekend. And like the bus is full. My other friends don't like get mad and they're like, oh, well, you picked Kelly over me. Like, it's not like that, because like you'll just come next time. And it's not, nothing's personal, you know?

• 1:02:10Speaker 01

  Did you ever go through a period where it was like that and you all learned to be like?

• 1:02:14Speaker 02

  No, I think it's just like, what's crazy is in our 10 years of friendship, almost Natalie and I have never been in a fight.

• 1:02:20Speaker 01

  What?

• 1:02:21Speaker 02

  Never.

• 1:02:21Speaker 01

  Never, not once?

• 1:02:22Speaker 02

  We've been annoyed with each other, like, you know, just like we've spent too much time together and we just give each other space. But as far as like, we've never like, we talk, we talk about it a lot too. And I think it's because like, we respect each other so much, like, the communication's always there. We never like, if anyone feels weird about something, we just talk about it, you know what I mean?

• 1:02:41Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:02:41Speaker 02

  Like, it's not, and we've never been competitive, so I think that helps too. Like, it's a very special thing, I think.

• 1:02:48Speaker 01

  And you haven't always had that though, right?

• 1:02:50Speaker 02

  No, like in high school and, um, I had a good friend Caitlin in high school. But like, other than her, it was like, yeah, Natalie is like my best friend forever.

• 1:03:01Speaker 01

  You know what I would prescribe, actually, is wonder, because I think wonder can be applied to all relationships, not just romantic.

• 1:03:07Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:03:07Speaker 01

  So like, real friends, would it make you wonder?

• 1:03:09Speaker 02

  Yes, and the girls, because you need some good girlfriends that

• 1:03:13Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:03:13Speaker 02

  Bring home the wine.

• 1:03:14Speaker 01

  Exactly.

• 1:03:15Speaker 02

  When you need a friend, they don't think twice.

• 1:03:18Speaker 01

  I've only ever slept with one person before my long-term boyfriend. We've been together for four years and I love him more than anything in the world. But I wonder if I should have been more sexually adventurous before getting into this. But I didn't plan this, I just fell in love and we never want anything to change between us, help.

• 1:03:35Speaker 02

  I think that's like a lot of curiosity. I think that if you're like happy and in love, you should probably stick with that, right?

• 1:03:43Speaker 01

  But like she's saying like, what if? Like, what, like, should I have explored more before this relationship?

• 1:03:48Speaker 02

  But let me tell you, these streets out here.

• 1:03:53Speaker 02

  The grass is not greener.

• 1:03:55Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:03:55Speaker 02

  Um, no, I'm just kidding. I guess that's like a personal thing, you don't want to like, get married and then wonder to wonder once again.

• 1:04:03Speaker 01

  Once again.

• 1:04:04Speaker 02

  So I guess if your God is telling you, you need to go explore, then go explore, but

• 1:04:09Speaker 01

  Have you ever seen how to be single?

• 1:04:10Speaker 02

  Also, if you're really in love, though.

• 1:04:11Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:04:11Speaker 02

  Like, mm. Are you really in love then?

• 1:04:15Speaker 01

  Well,

• 1:04:15Speaker 02

  if you wanna explore.

• 1:04:16Speaker 01

  If your love is based in like, I'm so lucky and I don't wanna let this go. Like, is that?

• 1:04:21Speaker 02

  Well, I don't think you can think like that because there's always someone out there that I think, you know? Like, guys that I thought that I've been in love with.

• 1:04:30Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:04:31Speaker 02

  It's like happened again, you know?

• 1:04:33Speaker 01

  Right. Have you ever been in a relationship and you're like, I'm never ever going to find something like this? And then you finally get out of it and you're like, what could I, I wish I could have told myself in that moment? That I didn't know then?

• 1:04:46Speaker 02

  Every single one of my breakups, I like crash out. Have you seen, did you see the TikTok I posted where like my eyes are swollen?

• 1:04:51Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:04:53Speaker 02

  Like, it was like, what do you mean? He drained the life out of you and then you swipe and it's like, you know, I, my eyes are swollen, my like nose is red and everyone's like, oh my god, like, oh my god, like five years ago, that was so crazy. I'm like, ah, girl, this was like three months ago.

• 1:05:07Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:05:10Speaker 02

  Um, so yeah, yeah, like every single time I get my heart so broken, but

• 1:05:15Speaker 02

  you move on, you know, like it's, I think I'm an emotional person though, like I'm attached to the color blue. So like I could get my heart broken by a dude too, you know?

• 1:05:24Speaker 01

  What, what is it about blue that you love so much?

• 1:05:27Speaker 02

  Am I okay? Like the era, you know what I mean?

• 1:05:29Speaker 01

  Yes, yeah.

• 1:05:30Speaker 02

  I'm emotional about the color blue.

• 1:05:31Speaker 01

  Got it, got it.

• 1:05:31Speaker 02

  So it's like, I'm just an emotional human being in general.

• 1:05:34Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:05:34Speaker 02

  So like, I feel things deeply. So even if it wasn't that serious, I'm like,

• 1:05:38Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:05:39Speaker 02

  My heart.

• 1:05:40Speaker 01

  What's your, do you know anything about star signs?

• 1:05:43Speaker 02

  No.

• 1:05:43Speaker 01

  Okay, cuz I'd love to know your rising and your moon cuz I know you're a Libra, which means you're unproblematic and you're very, that's why I'm like, you don't fight with your friends, that does check out. Like, you're just very like, all is good.

• 1:05:53Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:05:54Speaker 01

  You know what I would prescribe this person is the movie How to Be Single? Cuz she's like so happy, I think it's Dakota Johnson, she's so happy in her relationship and she's like, I wanna explore. And then she breaks up with her boyfriend and is like, goes explores.

• 1:06:06Speaker 02

  Yeah, and I do think if you have the gut feeling, then if it's meant to, if you're meant to be together, you'll get back together, so. Maybe you try.

• 1:06:13Speaker 01

  Do you believe everything happens for a reason?

• 1:06:15Speaker 02

  A hundred percent.

• 1:06:16Speaker 01

  Yeah. I feel like we have to tell ourselves that or else we'd go insane.

• 1:06:20Speaker 02

  Right, and there's just been too many things that have happened where I'm like,

• 1:06:24Speaker 01

  Okay, I was gonna say, was there something that happened? And it was so horrible at the time and then you're like, you look at it now and you're like, oh my god, thank god. Everything happens for a reason or else I wouldn't be here.

• 1:06:34Speaker 02

  Yeah, I mean, I got my heart broken really bad my junior year. And I like, That was, so I started writing songs my freshman year, but by my junior year, heartbroken horribly. And then, um, I wrote, I had the dream about hair salon. And then I wrote that. And I was like, pretty heartbroken throughout that like whole process. And I know that if I didn't get my heart broken that bad, and I wasn't like, you know, if I, if I wasn't, I, I don't know. That was like the first time in my life, I like laid in bed for 24 hours. Like I could not get out of bed. Like I was like, thought the world was over. And I think like, if that didn't happen, then I wouldn't know to go to songwriting as like a therapy, like for me, you know?

• 1:07:15Speaker 01

  Did you immediately go to songwriting or were you like watching?

• 1:07:17Speaker 02

  Yeah, I did.

• 1:07:18Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:07:18Speaker 02

  Like I started like needing to pick up my guitar and like get my emotions out. And that's when I was like, oh. Cause of the other guys I dated, like I had dated guys like in high school and like, you know, the beginning of college and, um, I didn't write songs about them that like really meant anything. And then like, once I really had my heart shattered, I was like, oh God.

• 1:07:39Speaker 01

  Have you ever had somebody that you've written a song about, reach out to you and be like, hey?

• 1:07:45Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:07:47Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:07:47Speaker 01

  Really?

• 1:07:49Speaker 02

  Uh, yeah.

• 1:07:50Speaker 01

  And do, are you like, sorry? Or you're just like?

• 1:07:53Speaker 02

  Um, I'm just like, yeah, that was my side of the story.

• 1:07:58Speaker 01

  Right, right. I think my husband is caught in a pyramid scheme. He's always been a hustler, which I love about him, but it seems like this newest side venture, it sounds like an awful lot, like a scam. He's not gullible, so I'm not fully convinced, but he keeps on telling our friends about this quote, product, I guess. And I want to make sure he doesn't embarrass himself.

• 1:08:17Speaker 01

  Well, if it looks like a pyramid scheme and acts like a pyramid scheme, it's most likely a pyramid scheme. Do you have any one you know from college that you're like, they're in an MLM scam?

• 1:08:27Speaker 02

  Um, yeah, I can't remember the names of any of them, but I do remember that they would, they would all sell them as like groups, you know?

• 1:08:34Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:08:35Speaker 02

  Yeah, I do remember that. Um, I don't know what to tell this girl. Why doesn't she just talk to him and be like, hey, I think you're in a pyramid scheme?

• 1:08:43Speaker 01

  Right? Maybe honesty is the best policy, but like come with receipts. Cause he's obviously like, if you're in a pyramid scheme, like you are sold a dream and a lie. And like, he is going to defend that pyramid scheme until the day he dies. So you need to come.

• 1:08:53Speaker 02

  Are pyramid schemes harmful though?

• 1:08:55Speaker 01

  Okay, so actually, it's so funny you say that. I think the issue with a pyramid scheme, so I think it's called a pyramid scheme because it's like you'll never be able to get to the top.

• 1:09:04Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:09:05Speaker 01

  So like you will start here.

• 1:09:07Speaker 02

  Sell and sell and sell.

• 1:09:07Speaker 01

  And you like sell and recruit it, sell and recruit and sell and recruit and sell and recruit until you're like building a pyramid. And it's all only helping the main person in charge of the scheme.

• 1:09:16Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:09:16Speaker 01

  Am I right?

• 1:09:19Speaker 02

  Well, yeah.

• 1:09:22Speaker 02

  I would say, I mean, if he makes decent money doing it and he's happy, like, what are you gonna say to it? Maybe let him live his pyramid scheme dreams.

• 1:09:32Speaker 01

  Maybe scare him and be like, you could go to jail.

• 1:09:34Speaker 02

  Ooh, yeah.

• 1:09:36Speaker 01

  Right?

• 1:09:36Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:09:36Speaker 01

  And like then what?

• 1:09:37Speaker 02

  Like the police called earlier.

• 1:09:38Speaker 01

  Right. And they're asking, they're asking around about this pyramid scheme. "I caught my boyfriend of almost one year taking pictures of me in my sleep. He is literally great and never does anything wrong. Jake, what do I even do? This isn't normal, right?"

• 1:09:51Speaker 02

  Was it because you looked cute, do you think?

• 1:09:53Speaker 01

  That's what I'm wondering now too. Like, do you think he's like, oh my god, you look adorable?

• 1:09:56Speaker 02

  Or was he like?

• 1:09:58Speaker 01

  Right? I feel like I'm gonna be an optimist here and go with the fact that he thinks you're really adorable when you sleep in. Maybe for your birthday, he's making a collage of you sleeping.

• 1:10:06Speaker 02

  That's really optimistic. A bit delusional, but maybe it's possible, yeah.

• 1:10:11Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:10:11Speaker 02

  My first gut was like, oh, maybe he thinks she's cute, but obviously if she feels weird about it.

• 1:10:16Speaker 01

  Well, a woman's gut is never wrong.

• 1:10:18Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:10:18Speaker 01

  So obviously, maybe something is amiss.

• 1:10:21Speaker 02

  Maybe he has like a fetish of some sort.

• 1:10:23Speaker 01

  For sleeping.

• 1:10:24Speaker 02

  For sleeping.

• 1:10:26Speaker 01

  "I'm still living with my, I'm still living in my college town two years after graduating. Tons of people are moving now and I'm struggling with feeling stuck and deeply lonely. Tips."

• 1:10:36Speaker 02

  If you can, try to leave, I would say. Just anywhere, even like, what's the closest city that's like, sort of near there, I guess? Um, I do think that feeling is very valid. Even by the time I was a senior in Athens, like, what are you? Are you like 22 at that age?

• 1:10:50Speaker 01

  Twenty-two, yeah.

• 1:10:51Speaker 02

  There was like seventeen-year-olds with fake IDs making out in the corner. I was like, I gotta go. I gotta go. I need to leave here.

• 1:10:58Speaker 01

  If you could bottle it up and give it to someone, it's torture.

• 1:11:01Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:11:01Speaker 01

  Like when you are a senior in college and you look at all the freshmen coming in being like...

• 1:11:06Speaker 02

  And they're so like bright-eyed and you're just like... It's time.

• 1:11:11Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's time to go.

• 1:11:12Speaker 02

  Time has expired, yeah, so I would say if you can, try to plan to make moves.

• 1:11:18Speaker 01

  Yeah. What was your favorite part about Athens?

• 1:11:22Speaker 02

  Um, honestly, I just loved going to the University of Georgia. It's very like, it's very like family-like, like there's American whiskey in New York. I tried to get you to come that day. Didn't you go on a date? Teaing?

• 1:11:36Speaker 01

  Yeah, I did. I did go on a date. I had something that day and I was like, I am so, I was so...

• 1:11:44Speaker 02

  It rained, so it was not even a vibe anyway.

• 1:11:47Speaker 01

  But I really wanted to watch the game with you.

• 1:11:49Speaker 02

  Yeah, but anyways, like, American whiskey is in New York, but like, a lot of those people went to Georgia, and it's just like, everyone's so kind, and it's like, if you're a bulldog, they like, claim you, and it's like, very, I don't know, the camaraderie, I think, is really cool, and I just, I just loved Athens. I mean, it's like a music city, and there's also, um, like, 87 bars downtown or something like that.

• 1:12:11Speaker 01

  Wait, I went to Athens.

• 1:12:13Speaker 02

  We have to get you to Athens.

• 1:12:14Speaker 01

  Wait, I went there, and I sat my ass on the bull.

• 1:12:17Speaker 02

  On the bulldog!

• 1:12:17Speaker 01

  Yes!

• 1:12:18Speaker 02

  Wait, I think I saw that picture of you. When was that? Oh, did you play in Athens?

• 1:12:21Speaker 01

  Yes, I played in Athens, and that, they were so polite and lovely there, and we got, we got great smoothies there.

• 1:12:27Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:12:28Speaker 01

  We went to the smooth-

• 1:12:29Speaker 02

  Just like the perfect college campus.

• 1:12:31Speaker 01

  No, that was Indiana. No, I was about to say, I think I got, what did we get to eat there? It was all, that was like Louise's hole, she was just like, showing me around, because she's from Georgia.

• 1:12:40Speaker 02

  Love.

• 1:12:41Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, I got merch. I dressed up like a frat guy.

• 1:12:44Speaker 02

  Oh, cute, like the little collared striped shirt, yeah.

• 1:12:46Speaker 01

  Oh, my god.

• 1:12:47Speaker 02

  The uniform.

• 1:12:47Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:12:48Speaker 02

  Did you get some New Balances?

• 1:12:49Speaker 01

  I should have worn New Balances. Um, I think I'm dating, I think the man I'm dating might be a criminal, like, on some secret Breaking Bad stuff. He sneaks, so, have you seen Breaking Bad?

• 1:13:01Speaker 02

  No.

• 1:13:02Speaker 01

  You have to. It's amazing. It's amazing. He sneaks away constantly, is always on the phone with someone, and it does not sound like he may be having an affair. Like, the talk is all serious. I still don't know exactly what he does for work as well. What do I do? Run.

• 1:13:16Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's given, like, the biggest red flag of them all.

• 1:13:20Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:13:21Speaker 02

  Yeah, I think something sketchy's going on. And, like, if you feel like you can't even ask him, then, like, that's not good either. And, yeah, if it's sketchy...

• 1:13:32Speaker 01

  I once had a friend...

• 1:13:34Speaker 02

  Sketchy, it's probably sketchy.

• 1:13:35Speaker 01

  I once had a friend, I hope she lets me tell the story, and she woke up in the middle of the night with her ex-boyfriend, and he was, like, getting up and, like, going through the room, pulled out a gun in the drawer and ran outside, and she was like... And then she woke up and he was there, and she was like, "Hey, so what happened last night?" And he said, "What are you talking about?"

• 1:13:57Speaker 02

  Oh, men.

• 1:14:01Speaker 01

  Evil, satanic.

• 1:14:04Speaker 01

  "I just found out through my parents that for the first eight years of my life, I was raised in a cult. They waited until my 24th birthday to tell me this. I feel like I'm being told I was adopted. I can't go into much detail about anything, but I'm struggling with this recontextualization of my childhood help." And you know what? I'm just gonna stop you right there. I am not qualified to help you. Really, like, really come to terms with the fact that you lived in a cult. I am so sorry, and I think that is cause for, like, actual therapy, not therapy.

• 1:14:31Speaker 02

  Real therapy and... Are you out of it? Like, are you safe?

• 1:14:35Speaker 01

  No, she's for sure out of the cult.

• 1:14:37Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:14:37Speaker 01

  She's for sure out of the cult. I'm fascinated by cults. Sorry, I'm so insensitive. I'm sorry, but I am. I really am. I really, really, really am. Like, I... Like, you say you watch documentaries. Like, have you ever watched a cult documentary? I'm so sorry, but have you ever watched...

• 1:14:52Speaker 02

  The dancing one?

• 1:14:54Speaker 01

  Oh, the dancing one was crazy!

• 1:14:56Speaker 02

  Especially the religious ones. They get people that aren't, don't know that much about, you know, religion, and then they just fucking...

• 1:15:02Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:15:02Speaker 02

  Gotcha.

• 1:15:03Speaker 01

  Well, because the...

• 1:15:03Speaker 02

  Are we gonna get taken for talking about cults?

• 1:15:07Speaker 01

  No, I talk about cults all the time. I just feel bad personally this time, because this girl was like, "Hey, I was in one. Please help." And I'm like, "I find them fascinating." But I will tell you...

• 1:15:16Speaker 02

  Seriously, yeah, get a good therapist.

• 1:15:18Speaker 01

  Good therapist.

• 1:15:19Speaker 02

  Sometimes you just need to, like, that was a thing, and I'm... I moved on and no longer a part of that.

• 1:15:27Speaker 01

  For clarity, I am so sorry you were in a cult. Please seek therapy.

• 1:15:32Speaker 02

  Real therapy.

• 1:15:33Speaker 01

  Real therapy, not therapist. But if you need to laugh, you're always welcome here. I pissed the bed blackout drunk and left my best friend to sleep in it. Then I found out, oh, Jesus, Nolan, what? This was insane. I pissed the bed blackout drunk and left my best friend to sleep in it, so you're a bad friend. Then I found out I had gonorrhea. It's transmittable through pee, and now she has it too. She won't talk to me. What do I do?

• 1:15:59Speaker 02

  I think you gotta take the L on that one.

• 1:16:03Speaker 02

  I think, I think, that's crazy.

• 1:16:06Speaker 01

  Oh my god, like low-key new fear unlocked.

• 1:16:09Speaker 02

  Uh, oof.

• 1:16:12Speaker 01

  I would, um, yeah, pay for her gonorrhea meds. Apologize profusely.

• 1:16:17Speaker 02

  Flowers.

• 1:16:18Speaker 01

  Flowers. Maybe ask, like, what do you want, like, material-wise? Like, do you want new clothes? Like, I need to, you just need to, like, do things, like, to make her happy, because you gave her gonorrhea and she didn't even have to have sex because of it. She slept in your pee.

• 1:16:32Speaker 02

  Maybe the friend needs a little bit of distance, though.

• 1:16:35Speaker 01

  Uh, yeah.

• 1:16:37Speaker 02

  So, to the other friend's point, maybe just some, some time away from each other for a little bit, and then maybe you can reconvene once everyone's all cleared up.

• 1:16:47Speaker 01

  If my friend gave me gonorrhea just by peeing the bed drunk and me sleeping in it. Also, why are you leaving? To begin, why are you leaving your friend to sleep in the pee?

• 1:16:57Speaker 02

  Yeah. That's an immediate wake-up.

• 1:17:00Speaker 01

  The amount of shit I would talk. If somebody did that to me, I'd be like-

• 1:17:04Speaker 02

  Do an emergency episode.

• 1:17:05Speaker 01

  Emergency episode, I'd literally go to everyone in my life. "How are you?" "I'm okay, my friend just left me to sleep in her pee and she gave me gonorrhea." "So, I'm not doing too well."

• 1:17:15Speaker 02

  How are you?

• 1:17:15Speaker 01

  How are you? Do you, are you ever in, like, an Uber and you, like, tell the same story, like, four times? And you just feel so bad for the Uber driver who's heard the same story four times?

• 1:17:24Speaker 02

  What kind of, what do you mean?

• 1:17:26Speaker 01

  Okay, so that might just be a me thing. Like the other day, I was in an, okay, so the other day.

• 1:17:31Speaker 02

  Usually I like, in Ubers, I'm like oversharing, laughing, talking my shit. And the Uber driver just like, he's being polite and then he's just like, ha, ha, ha. And then he keeps laughing.

• 1:17:40Speaker 01

  And that's it?

• 1:17:41Speaker 02

  Oh, I talked too loud on that one.

• 1:17:43Speaker 01

  Like the other day, somebody came up to me on my flight that I was a really big fan of. And was [BLEEP]. No, it was actually outrageous. It was actually outrageous.

• 1:17:54Speaker 02

  That was so polite of you to like not say that at first.

• 1:17:56Speaker 01

  No, because I was like, I'm obsessed with her. And like, she was like, I like your videos. And I was like, so obviously I got on the Uber and made about four or five calls. And at the fifth call, I was saying the story again and I looked at the Uber driver and he was just like.

• 1:18:11Speaker 02

  Make it end.

• 1:18:11Speaker 01

  Like, he was literally about to drop me off on the highway.

• 1:18:14Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 1:18:15Speaker 01

  Um, well, that was the last Tell Me What's Wrong.

• 1:18:17Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 1:18:20Speaker 01

  Did you have fun today?

• 1:18:21Speaker 02

  Yeah, this was so fun and easy. We have to do it again.

• 1:18:24Speaker 01

  Don't play with me.

• 1:18:25Speaker 02

  I am not playing with you. We have a show coming up.

• 1:18:28Speaker 01

  A vacation.

• 1:18:29Speaker 02

  A vacation, yeah.

• 1:18:32Speaker 01

  What, well, Megan, what did we learn today?

• 1:18:34Speaker 02

  Uh, we learned that you don't have much Chick-fil-A knowledge. We learned that, um...

• 1:18:44Speaker 01

  That you might be in your Saturn return and it's actually quite likely that you are.

• 1:18:46Speaker 02

  Oh, I learned what a Saturn return is, yeah. I think it's return, if it hasn't returned, it's on its way.

• 1:18:51Speaker 01

  I learned about strawberry wine.

• 1:18:53Speaker 02

  We also learned, you know, sometimes I think that my life is a bit of a mess and then I hear that someone gave their friend gonorrhea and I'm like.

• 1:19:02Speaker 01

  All's good.

• 1:19:03Speaker 02

  You just never know what people are doing in their free time.

• 1:19:06Speaker 01

  We learned that your new album is going to be so insane for a multitude of reasons.

• 1:19:13Speaker 02

  I'm excited.

• 1:19:14Speaker 01

  We also learned that your live album of the M.I.O.K. tour comes out October 9th.

• 1:19:18Speaker 02

  We learned that you look great in maroon.

• 1:19:21Speaker 01

  Thank you so much.

• 1:19:21Speaker 02

  And that you're glowing.

• 1:19:23Speaker 01

  You're glowing.

• 1:19:24Speaker 02

  We're glowing.

• 1:19:25Speaker 01

  We are glowing. And I'm so excited to see you live Thursday.

• 1:19:31Speaker 02

  Slay.

• 1:19:31Speaker 01

  Brett is going to die. Do you, do you do indifferent on the setlist?

• 1:19:36Speaker 02

  Second.

• 1:19:37Speaker 01

  That is her favorite song of all time.

• 1:19:39Speaker 02

  It's so lit. It's gonna bring your earplugs. They scream.

• 1:19:42Speaker 01

  I am so, oh my God, I'm so excited. I'm, I mean, don't even.

• 1:19:46Speaker 02

  We have to deck him out in merch too.

• 1:19:48Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 1:19:48Speaker 02

  You gotta get the K M T.

• 1:19:50Speaker 01

  Decked out. Louis, are you gonna come?

• 1:19:51Speaker 02

  Brothers who's country.

• 1:19:53Speaker 01

  Oh my God, you're gone, aren't you?

• 1:19:55Speaker 02

  Wait, speaking of cults, that's our cult shirt. I always say to my fans, we look like a cult in that one.

• 1:20:00Speaker 01

  What do you call your fans?

• 1:20:01Speaker 02

  See, I don't really have a name, cuz like, I call them emo cowgirls, emo cowboys.

• 1:20:07Speaker 01

  I like that.

• 1:20:08Speaker 02

  So like, there's that, but it's like a mouthful. Emo cow people, emo cow persons.

• 1:20:15Speaker 02

  Emo cow beings, there's emo cow moms, emo cow dads.

• 1:20:18Speaker 01

  ECs.

• 1:20:19Speaker 02

  ECs, oh yeah.

• 1:20:21Speaker 01

  Well, Megan, I love you so much.

• 1:20:23Speaker 02

  I love you, this was so much fun.

• 1:20:24Speaker 01

  This was so fun. I'm excited for your live album, your new album, and vacation, and your show Thursday.

• 1:20:31Speaker 02

  Yeehaw, we have so much.

• 1:20:33Speaker 01

  Yeehaw.

• 1:20:33Speaker 02

  I need you to wear the cowboy hat.

• 1:20:35Speaker 01

  I'm go- wait, I was about to say, I have a cowboy hat for this concert. Like, I'm going to wear it for it.

• 1:20:39Speaker 02

  So, people don't usually dress like that at my concerts, but you could definitely still wear it.

• 1:20:42Speaker 01

  Oh, Brett is about to be decked out in boots, like, we are so excited.

• 1:20:46Speaker 02

  I love it.

• 1:20:47Speaker 01

  Well, Megan, I love you so much.

• 1:20:49Speaker 02

  Love you, this was so much fun, thanks for having me on, also.

• 1:20:51Speaker 01

  We have dinner Wednesday.

• 1:20:52Speaker 02

  Dinner Wednesday.

• 1:20:54Speaker 01

  Dinner Wednesday, we have a whole Megan-themed week.

• 1:20:56Speaker 02

  Wait, you're gonna get to meet my parents.

• 1:20:57Speaker 01

  Oh, I'm so excited. Is Natalie gonna be there?

• 1:21:00Speaker 02

  Yes, and Alex.

• 1:21:01Speaker 01

  I can't wait, I cannot wait.

• 1:21:02Speaker 02

  Yay.

• 1:21:03Speaker 01

  Well, do you wanna give a little "bye pussies"?

• 1:21:05Speaker 02

  Bye pussies.

• 1:21:16Speaker 00

  Coca-Cola, for the big, for the small, the short, and the tall. Peacemakers, risk-takers. For the optimists, pessimists. For long-distance love. For introverts and extroverts. The thinkers and the doers. For old friends and new. Coca-Cola, for everyone. Pick up some Coca-Cola at a store near you.