Session 150: Lisa

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• 0:01Speaker 00

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• 0:41Speaker 01

  Yeah, shall we start with like, where's your favorite Thai spot in L.A.?

• 0:46Speaker 02

  Okay, I like Tuk Tuk Thai. And I like, but my favorite is Anna Jack.

• 0:52Speaker 01

  Oh, okay, okay, okay. I'm glad that you didn't say the, okay, okay.

• 0:58Speaker 02

  What are you glad I didn't say?

• 1:04Speaker 02

  What's your favorite?

• 1:05Speaker 01

  My favorite, I have few. Do you know, have you ever tried Thai boat noodle?

• 1:13Speaker 02

  I know exactly what you're talking about and I've never had it, but I've been dying to try it.

• 1:18Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm, I found like the good spot in L.A. in Thai town called Mamalai.

• 1:25Speaker 02

  Uh-huh.

• 1:26Speaker 01

  Mamalai, so it's a Thai boat noodle. They have like a dry boat noodle, like they have Tom Yum boat noodle.

• 1:32Speaker 02

  Ooh.

• 1:33Speaker 01

  So good.

• 1:34Speaker 02

  I love Tom Yum soup.

• 1:35Speaker 01

  Yes, it's, yeah, it's so good. And I have like a few, have you been to Thai town?

• 1:41Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:42Speaker 01

  They have a, they have a place, a dessert place called Kanom Ban Kanom Wan. They have like a toast with like a pandan sauce. With a pandan ice cream.

• 1:54Speaker 02

  Ooh.

• 1:54Speaker 01

  So good. And they have like a Thai tea shaped ice.

• 1:58Speaker 02

  That sounds amazing. Thai tea is one of my favorite things in the entire world.

• 2:01Speaker 01

  So good.

• 2:02Speaker 02

  So good.

• 2:05Speaker 01

  Yeah, so that's my favorite place.

• 2:07Speaker 02

  Welcome to Therapus.

• 2:09Speaker 01

  Thank you, thank you for having me.

• 2:11Speaker 02

  Thanks for being here and congratulations on your VMA win last night.

• 2:15Speaker 01

  I know, thank you.

• 2:16Speaker 02

  For Dream.

• 2:17Speaker 01

  For Dream.

• 2:18Speaker 02

  And what a very special song, very vulnerable song.

• 2:21Speaker 01

  It's very special, um, yeah.

• 2:25Speaker 02

  And it was also, that's a fan voted award, right?

• 2:28Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 2:29Speaker 02

  So you're.

• 2:30Speaker 01

  It's crazy.

• 2:31Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's crazy.

• 2:32Speaker 01

  I love, I love my fans, I mean, thank you, Lili.

• 2:36Speaker 02

  What did it feel like to win your first? That was your first non-K-pop award, right? Your first solo award, what did that feel like?

• 2:44Speaker 01

  It's so special because it's, the song is Dream. It's about, you know, my personal, you know, inspired by my personal story.

• 2:55Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:56Speaker 01

  So it's, and it's my first like, you know, like a personal stuff going out to the world, which is, you know, like me and my team were, um, we were like, oh, we're not sure that, is that okay to, we put out this out? But we were like, okay, doesn't matter, you know, it's my first, it's, it's personal, you know?

• 3:16Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 3:17Speaker 01

  Um, but I think a lot of people can rely on, relate on to this song because it's Dream, it's about, um, be in the relationship with someone. It could be your friends, your, you know, your families or, you know, or it could be like love, relationship, but you couldn't see that person anymore. You can only see them in your dreams. So I think a lot of people can relate. So we're like, okay, let's put it out. And now I got this, it's like, it's crazy.

• 3:47Speaker 02

  And does it feel like, does it amp you up for like your Vegas residency and like everything?

• 3:52Speaker 01

  Definitely, last night. And also I did Sawadika performance for the first time ever at the VMA. So it's like, it's crazy. Now I'm like, okay, I'm looking for, for my residency.

• 4:04Speaker 02

  Yeah, were you nervous before?

• 4:06Speaker 01

  I was so nervous, still nervous.

• 4:07Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah.

• 4:08Speaker 01

  Yeah, so, but, um, yeah, I'm gonna get, um, start with the rehearsal and everything and get ready for the Vegas residency.

• 4:17Speaker 02

  It's gonna be so awesome, I have to come see it.

• 4:19Speaker 01

  Please.

• 4:19Speaker 02

  I will, I will, I will.

• 4:21Speaker 01

  Do you like Vegas?

• 4:23Speaker 02

  I, yes. I could do like 24 hours, max, Vegas.

• 4:28Speaker 01

  Oh, you can't.

• 4:29Speaker 02

  But like the way you'll do it, you'll go in and out.

• 4:32Speaker 01

  Yeah, yes, yes, exactly. I think I could do max like three to four.

• 4:39Speaker 02

  What?

• 4:40Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 4:40Speaker 02

  You could do four days in Vegas?

• 4:42Speaker 01

  I think so, I, well, I rehearse, rehearsal.

• 4:44Speaker 02

  Oh, right, right, right.

• 4:45Speaker 01

  I had rehearsal in, in Vegas before for the Blackpink tour.

• 4:48Speaker 02

  Uh-huh.

• 4:49Speaker 01

  But I think for, that's for Coachella because they have like the biggest, like a, have the big studio there.

• 4:54Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 4:55Speaker 01

  That, that we, um, that we rent or whatever, yeah. So we, we stayed there for like three, four days, yeah.

• 5:02Speaker 02

  Oh, wow, I mean, I guess it's, that's a diff, that's like at like proper Vegas, not like Casino Vegas.

• 5:07Speaker 01

  But you can do only 24 hours.

• 5:09Speaker 02

  24 hours is my max.

• 5:10Speaker 01

  Okay, that's, that's good enough.

• 5:11Speaker 02

  Yeah, I mean, I'll come see the show and.

• 5:13Speaker 01

  Yeah, and then you just, bye.

• 5:15Speaker 02

  And I heard you like tequila shots.

• 5:16Speaker 01

  Oh my gosh, yes, do you?

• 5:19Speaker 02

  I'm a vodka girl, but I'll drink tequila for you.

• 5:22Speaker 01

  Okay, thank you.

• 5:22Speaker 02

  I'll drink tequila for you.

• 5:24Speaker 01

  Or I'll drink vodka for you.

• 5:26Speaker 02

  No, Lisa.

• 5:27Speaker 01

  Why?

• 5:28Speaker 02

  I'm not, I'm not making you drink vodka for me, I'm drinking tequila for. Cause it's your show.

• 5:32Speaker 01

  Oh, okay.

• 5:33Speaker 02

  And you're the star.

• 5:34Speaker 01

  Oh, that's so sweet.

• 5:37Speaker 02

  Imagine me being like, Lisa, you're gonna have to drink vodka for me.

• 5:40Speaker 01

  I can do one or two.

• 5:41Speaker 02

  Oh, but the thing is, I can do tequila, I, I can do tequila. And I, I need to grow up. Tequila's for grownups. Vodka's for babies, vodka's for babies.

• 5:52Speaker 01

  I thought it's a, it's switch.

• 5:54Speaker 02

  No, no, I once told someone.

• 5:56Speaker 01

  Grownups.

• 5:56Speaker 02

  No, I once told someone I drank vodka shots and they said, ugh, grow up.

• 6:02Speaker 02

  And I said, yeah, no, that's not right.

• 6:05Speaker 01

  Okay, okay, so we'll, we'll, we'll do tequila shots.

• 6:07Speaker 02

  We'll do tequila shots.

• 6:08Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 6:09Speaker 02

  Um, I watched your documentary, Always La Lisa. I found it so incredibly moving. I was, I was really not expecting you to open up the way you did. Like, I had no idea about so many things. Like, I didn't know that you changed your name when you were 13 years old.

• 6:29Speaker 01

  Yes, I did.

• 6:30Speaker 02

  And cause a fortune teller told your mom?

• 6:32Speaker 01

  I know.

• 6:33Speaker 02

  What was that like telling your friends, like, I have a different name now?

• 6:36Speaker 01

  Um, I feel like in Thai culture, I think that's, that's not normal, normal, but it's like, it's not like, it's not like a questioning, um, question. It's like, it's not like, why are you changing your name? It's more like, oh, you went to see a fortune teller, cool. And they asked you to change your name, cool.

• 6:53Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 6:54Speaker 01

  It's like, they're more like, oh, who, like, I wanna go, I wanna go see this fortune teller, like, can you tell me, like, tea?

• 7:01Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 7:01Speaker 01

  They love, and then there's a lot of, oh, my friends like went to the same fortune teller. Like, few of my friends changed their names.

• 7:08Speaker 02

  Oh, wow. Wow, I've never been to Thailand, I've been desperate to go.

• 7:12Speaker 01

  Oh my God, you have to go, you're gonna love Thailand. If you love Thai food.

• 7:16Speaker 02

  It's one of my favorite cuisines.

• 7:17Speaker 01

  If you love Anna Jack.

• 7:18Speaker 02

  Yeah. I've been desperate, desperate, desperate to go. I tried to go in high school and I couldn't. And I, and I need to go. And then after seeing you in White Lotus, seeing that season, I was like, I have to go.

• 7:28Speaker 01

  I know, it makes you wanna go, no?

• 7:30Speaker 02

  It's beautiful, it's one of the most beautiful places in the entire world.

• 7:33Speaker 01

  No, this, yeah, but I'm, I'm a bias, so I think yes, but.

• 7:37Speaker 02

  But did, was, when you filmed White Lotus, was that like the most time you had spent in Thailand consecutively since you moved to Korea?

• 7:45Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 7:46Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 7:46Speaker 01

  Yes, usually, um, I just go there for a week or two and that's it.

• 7:51Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 7:52Speaker 01

  And, yeah, that was like the first time after I moved to Korea and I spent that long in Thailand, it's like six, seven months, even though it's like back and forth.

• 8:02Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 8:02Speaker 01

  But still like two weeks in Thailand, back to L.A., work, come back, stay one week, go back. So it's like, it's, it's really nice for me to like connect, like reconnect to my root. And also my mom, she, she goes everywhere with me.

• 8:21Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 8:21Speaker 01

  Like, she was at the set, she also on the White Lotus.

• 8:26Speaker 02

  She is?

• 8:27Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 8:27Speaker 02

  Where?

• 8:28Speaker 01

  It's like somewhere behind.

• 8:31Speaker 02

  Oh, it's so awesome.

• 8:32Speaker 01

  She's like, she's like, she's all glammed up, sitting.

• 8:36Speaker 02

  Uh-huh.

• 8:36Speaker 01

  Like, and it's like, I don't remember which, um, which scene, but she was in the White Lotus.

• 8:42Speaker 02

  That's, that's so fun to get to include your family.

• 8:45Speaker 01

  I know.

• 8:46Speaker 02

  It makes it so much more special.

• 8:47Speaker 01

  Yeah, she was like, oh my God, I got a debut as an actress. She's so cute, and yeah.

• 8:53Speaker 02

  How did you find acting, did you enjoy it?

• 8:56Speaker 01

  Yes, I'm enjoying it and, but still like, still new to me. I still get nervous all the time, I'm like, I still dream like, I couldn't, that I couldn't remember my lines and I'm like, you know, it's like a nightmare.

• 9:10Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 9:11Speaker 01

  Yeah, but it's, it's fun.

• 9:13Speaker 02

  Do you have like bad anxiety?

• 9:15Speaker 01

  Bad anxiety? Hmm, not really, but it just, you know.

• 9:21Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 9:21Speaker 01

  I get nervous every single time because I don't wanna say something wrong and I always say something wrong.

• 9:26Speaker 02

  Really, you think that?

• 9:27Speaker 01

  Yeah, I will always say a wrong like line.

• 9:31Speaker 02

  Oh, you mean on like set?

• 9:32Speaker 01

  On set.

• 9:33Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 9:34Speaker 01

  Always.

• 9:35Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 9:36Speaker 01

  In the White Lotus, I'm like, oh my God, like I can't say something wrong in front of Mike White.

• 9:41Speaker 02

  I know, I know, but he's so lovely, no?

• 9:43Speaker 01

  Oh, she's so sweet.

• 9:45Speaker 02

  So sweet.

• 9:45Speaker 01

  Wonderful, I love, I miss him.

• 9:48Speaker 02

  Oh, do you guys keep in touch?

• 9:50Speaker 01

  Um, we have like a group chat, but we don't really send anything to the group chat anymore.

• 9:57Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 9:57Speaker 01

  Yeah, because I feel like everybody knows they have their own schedules, so you know, like in a different time zone, so we don't wanna like, you know, send the message to like, wake someone up, yeah.

• 10:10Speaker 02

  You know, I've actually started thinking about that recently. I've started, when I text people, I'm like, oh, I wonder what time it is for them. I've started to like care.

• 10:17Speaker 01

  Oh, but not, but not earlier. Doesn't matter.

• 10:22Speaker 02

  I'm like, oh, wait, no, I could be waking someone up right now. Because when I go to bed, my phone's on silent, so I just don't.

• 10:28Speaker 01

  Ah, okay.

• 10:29Speaker 02

  Nothing wakes me up.

• 10:30Speaker 01

  Oh my God, always like, when I, when I come to L.A., always, my friends always text me like 2:00 a.m. in the morning.

• 10:38Speaker 02

  And you're like?

• 10:38Speaker 01

  I'm like, I need to sleep, guys.

• 10:40Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 10:41Speaker 01

  But I don't do like night, like a night mode or, what do you call night mode?

• 10:45Speaker 02

  Yeah, well, there's night mode and there's do not disturb.

• 10:47Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't do that.

• 10:48Speaker 02

  What, you just keep your phone on?

• 10:49Speaker 01

  Just in case, cause you know, you never know, just in case.

• 10:52Speaker 02

  You never know.

• 10:53Speaker 01

  Yeah, so just in case someone needs me or like, or my mom needs me or, you know, so. But yeah, always 2:00 a.m., 3:00 a.m. in the morning, phone calls or texts like da, da, da, da, da.

• 11:08Speaker 02

  Please.

• 11:09Speaker 01

  Like, don't you know that like I'm not in Thailand or something?

• 11:12Speaker 02

  Right.

• 11:12Speaker 01

  Yeah, but it's, it's fine.

• 11:15Speaker 02

  But you still have all your friends from childhood?

• 11:17Speaker 01

  Yes, yes, in a documentary, right?

• 11:20Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, I saw them all. How, how did you keep that relationship with them while you were at YG Training Camp?

• 11:27Speaker 01

  Hmm, I don't know, it just naturally just um, I feel like every single time I go back to Thailand, I'm, I see them, I meet them, I have a um, good dinner, lunch, or just go shopping with them, it's just, they're like my safe zone.

• 11:42Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 11:43Speaker 01

  Like, dude.

• 11:44Speaker 02

  I have those people too, like from college.

• 11:46Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm, and you, you know, like,

• 11:48Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 11:48Speaker 01

  They don't judge you, whatever.

• 11:49Speaker 02

  They don't judge you and they'll never leave you.

• 11:51Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 11:51Speaker 02

  And I feel like I saw that you talk about something in the documentary where it was like you were, when you were in um, training camp, like everyone was constantly on edge.

• 11:59Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 11:59Speaker 02

  Right, cuz every, you could have been eliminated at any, every sense of the way, like.

• 12:03Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 12:04Speaker 02

  Do you feel as though like, as you've begun your solo career, that like, that's some, that feeling is something you still carry with you even though it's oh, not part of you anymore?

• 12:15Speaker 01

  Oh, that feeling?

• 12:15Speaker 02

  Yeah, that feeling of like, oh, this could go away, or this could.

• 12:18Speaker 01

  Hmm, not anymore, I think that feeling just gone right after we know that we're become, we're gonna be blackpink.

• 12:26Speaker 02

  Like, when did you guys feel like, oh, we are the biggest group in the entire world? Like, when did that moment hit for you guys?

• 12:39Speaker 01

  I feel like the twenty twenty nineteen um, Coachella set was like, oh wow, okay, we're, we're, people, a lot of people know us. Like, not, not, not just in Korea or in Asia, but more like internationally, so I think that was like, the, the time that we're like, oh, wow, okay, so this is happening.

• 13:08Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 13:08Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 13:09Speaker 02

  And I didn't know that you couldn't do anything without reporting to your label.

• 13:17Speaker 02

  Like, what, what was that like?

• 13:20Speaker 01

  No, it's just like, it's just more like, we have to tell your, your pa, like, we have to tell our parents.

• 13:24Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's like your parents.

• 13:25Speaker 01

  Something like that, yeah, it's just more like, okay, mom, okay dad, I'm gonna go out with friends, like, I'll be back, what time, what time? It's, it's more like that, so it's not like, no, you can't go, but, you know, just, it's just have to, a little report, so to keep us safe, I guess.

• 13:42Speaker 02

  Of course, of course, of course. Do, and you still, you still live in uh, Korea, right?

• 13:47Speaker 01

  Um, barely.

• 13:49Speaker 02

  Barely?

• 13:50Speaker 01

  Yeah, I, I still have my place in Korea, but now, I'm just everywhere, I don't know.

• 13:55Speaker 02

  Do you have a day off?

• 13:57Speaker 01

  I do.

• 13:59Speaker 02

  And how do you spend those days off?

• 14:02Speaker 01

  Oh, I, I don't pick up my phone calls.

• 14:05Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 14:06Speaker 01

  And I mean, my team knows that it's my day off, they don't touch me, they're like, okay, let this girl live her life, and they need to live their life as well, you know? So we're like, okay, okay, bye, I'll see you in, in two weeks, and they're like, but sometimes if they really needs me, they're like, they're really like, I'm sorry Lisa, can you please check this, or, you know, but still, you know, we have our boundaries and I, I have day off, and I just had like a one month off.

• 14:37Speaker 02

  Oh, wow.

• 14:38Speaker 01

  Yeah, before Sawadika comes out, so it's like.

• 14:42Speaker 02

  That song's amazing.

• 14:43Speaker 01

  It's.

• 14:44Speaker 02

  That song's amazing, like,

• 14:49Speaker 02

  you bought me a gift?

• 14:50Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 14:51Speaker 02

  No, I was wondering what the hustle and bustle was back there, oh, let me put this on right now.

• 14:56Speaker 01

  It's a Sawadiva.

• 14:58Speaker 02

  Sawadiva?

• 14:59Speaker 01

  Yeah, Sawadiva, yeah, but I just, we're just like, do like a little like, funny like phrase, like Sawadiva. Like Sawadikadiva, but we shortened to Sawadiva.

• 15:14Speaker 02

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• 16:31Speaker 01

  Oh, Sawadiva!

• 16:32Speaker 02

  Sawadiva!

• 16:33Speaker 01

  Oh my god, you know, I'm wearing it.

• 16:35Speaker 02

  Oh my, we're twinning!

• 16:36Speaker 01

  Yes!

• 16:37Speaker 02

  What made you choose that as the first song off the EP?

• 16:40Speaker 01

  Off the EP, I'm, I feel like it's a good introduction for this EP, because it's Sawadika, it's the first thing you say when you say hi to people, so that's why I wanna put this out.

• 16:52Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 16:52Speaker 01

  For the fir, yeah, first.

• 16:54Speaker 02

  And, so, you were inspired a lot by your Thai roots for this EP as opposed to the previous album, right?

• 17:01Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 17:01Speaker 02

  Can you tell me more about that?

• 17:03Speaker 01

  Like, what I said um, earlier that I have spent, I had spent time in Thailand like six, seven months, and then, I feel like I, it feels so good that I reconnect to my root again. It's like, everything, like food, friends, families, the weather.

• 17:22Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 17:23Speaker 01

  You know, it's everything, it's just like, oh my god, I miss this so much. I've been living in Korea since I was fourteen, until I was what, um, twenty-six, twenty-seven, and then,

• 17:34Speaker 02

  What?

• 17:35Speaker 01

  Yeah, so it's like, it's, it feels so good to be back home, like, home, home, the real home. So, um, when we're doing um, our, uh, this EP, we're just like, okay, like, I have so many like, inspiration from, from my hometown. So it's like, what, like, I wanna, I wanna put tuk tuk in my music video, I wanna do this, I wanna do that, like, I have so many like, um, like a mood board.

• 18:07Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 18:07Speaker 01

  Yeah, and then we're talking like, oh, like, what if we put like a Thai sound and mix with like a pop sound?

• 18:16Speaker 02

  I heard it, in the six track.

• 18:18Speaker 01

  Yes, uh, can we, can we say the name now, like, uh, in Tarantino?

• 18:23Speaker 02

  Yes, yes.

• 18:24Speaker 01

  Yeah, like, it's a, it's a Thai guitar.

• 18:26Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 18:28Speaker 01

  It's a Thai guitar, and I'm like, I never, it's just like, the, the producer is, he's,

• 18:36Speaker 01

  he's crazy, that he just like, put that Thai sound with, mix with like, a pop, it just, it's incredible.

• 18:44Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 18:45Speaker 01

  Like, I, I was like, wow, this, this is the song, when I first hear the, only the, the, the, the opening with the guitar, I'm like, oh, I'm so excited to hear the whole song, and then, yeah. You know, it's like a lot.

• 19:02Speaker 02

  It's an incredible EP, I was gonna ask you, you travel all the time? All the time?

• 19:07Speaker 01

  Yes, all the time.

• 19:08Speaker 02

  So you must be watching and listening to something on the plane, right? What are you watching and listening to?

• 19:12Speaker 01

  Ooh, do you say I don't watch, I don't listen, I read.

• 19:17Speaker 02

  You read? Fuck.

• 19:20Speaker 01

  Let me pour my glass of wine.

• 19:23Speaker 01

  I read.

• 19:24Speaker 02

  I haven't read a book in so long!

• 19:26Speaker 01

  I know, I just started.

• 19:28Speaker 02

  What are, what are you reading?

• 19:29Speaker 01

  Um, I read, oh wait, The Monk Who Sold His Ferrari, that's the name.

• 19:35Speaker 02

  Oh, you love cars?

• 19:37Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 19:38Speaker 02

  I just learned this about you.

• 19:39Speaker 01

  Yeah, I love car, and I walked past a, a bookshop, and I saw that, I was like, the, the monk who sold his Ferrari, I'm like, what? Why he sold his Ferrari? And I wanna know, and now I, I'm reading it.

• 19:53Speaker 02

  Is it interesting?

• 19:54Speaker 01

  It, it is interesting, but I was so busy, so I'm like, I couldn't, I wanna be like, with myself alone time, and read.

• 20:03Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 20:03Speaker 01

  I don't wanna be like, on the run, like, on, in the car, I like, I can't like, concentrate.

• 20:09Speaker 02

  I am the, I can't concentrate for anything.

• 20:12Speaker 01

  So I haven't finished it yet, it's so sad, but I will soon.

• 20:15Speaker 02

  Yeah, I, I'll start my book tonight, in honor of you. I'll start my book tonight.

• 20:19Speaker 01

  What, what, what are you gonna read?

• 20:20Speaker 02

  It's called Fruit Fly.

• 20:22Speaker 01

  Fruit Fly?

• 20:23Speaker 02

  And everyone's, have you heard about this book? I've been dying to read it. Oh, well, I have an extra copy.

• 20:27Speaker 01

  Oh!

• 20:28Speaker 02

  Yes, you can.

• 20:29Speaker 01

  Wait, what, what's about?

• 20:31Speaker 02

  I don't know.

• 20:32Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 20:32Speaker 02

  I'm someone that, I'm, I like to call myself a sheep, like, I follow, I follow trends, I don't create them.

• 20:38Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 20:39Speaker 02

  So like, if I hear someone's like, I'm like, ooh, someone's talking about this, I'm like, ooh, I want that.

• 20:43Speaker 01

  Oh, okay, okay.

• 20:45Speaker 02

  That's kind of like how I am.

• 20:46Speaker 01

  Same, same as me.

• 20:47Speaker 02

  Yeah, do you like, do you like, collect anything, are you a collector?

• 20:51Speaker 01

  I used to collect Labubus.

• 20:54Speaker 02

  You started Labubus. You started Labubus.

• 20:58Speaker 01

  Sorry.

• 20:58Speaker 02

  Did you know this?

• 20:59Speaker 01

  Sorry.

• 21:01Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 21:02Speaker 02

  You, you, Labubus were not, how did you come about the Labubu, how did, like, how did this all come about? Cuz after you posted with the Labubu, it exploded in a way that I had not seen since Silly Bands.

• 21:17Speaker 01

  I, okay, first of all, I never heard about, I never heard of this little cutie.

• 21:23Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 21:24Speaker 01

  I was like, who, what is La Boo Boo? So, oh, I went to Thai, I went back to Thailand, me with my friends. And then one of my friends said, oh my God, I want to go to Pop Mart. I'm like, what is Pop Mart? It's like, La, La, let's go, let's go, I wanna, I want La Boo Boo. I was like, okay, okay, fine, okay, it's our toy, our, yeah, okay, fine. So I went there and she was like, oh no, it's sold out. I'm like, what, is that so hard to get? She's like, yes, girl, like, why, where have you been? I'm like, okay. And then they show me the La Boo Boo that they want. And the color is so cute, it's like pink, um, I don't know, like beige, green matcha. I was like, I want the green matcha.

• 22:04Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 22:04Speaker 01

  Like, I want the green matcha, so I was like, and I ended up buying a whole box, I mean, getting a whole box. And then, and it start from there.

• 22:15Speaker 02

  And then you just had this huge collection?

• 22:17Speaker 01

  Yeah, it start from there and my friend kept sending me stuff that, oh, there's a limited edition of this La Boo Boo, la, la, la, la, la. Like, this is really rare, like, really hard to get, I was like, that's challenged me.

• 22:29Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 22:29Speaker 01

  I was like, hard to get, I'll get it.

• 22:31Speaker 02

  I feel the same way about things, I feel the same way, I'm like, hard to get, I want it now.

• 22:36Speaker 01

  I want it now, like, now, now, and then, I was just so lucky to get not every single thing, not every single collection, but almost in my house right now.

• 22:46Speaker 02

  You want it, you got it.

• 22:47Speaker 01

  So, yeah, and now I'm like, okay, I, I have no space to walk in my house.

• 22:53Speaker 02

  Cause there's just La Boo Boo's everywhere.

• 22:54Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 22:55Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 22:55Speaker 01

  They're like smiling at me, like, everywhere, I'm like, cool, hi.

• 23:02Speaker 02

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• 23:47Speaker 02

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• 24:06Speaker 02

  Well, Lisa, what are you therapist about today?

• 24:11Speaker 01

  Today?

• 24:11Speaker 02

  Just today, in the week.

• 24:14Speaker 01

  Angry? No, not really.

• 24:17Speaker 02

  Oh, I'm so jealous.

• 24:19Speaker 01

  Have you?

• 24:20Speaker 02

  I'm angry every day about everything, all the time.

• 24:22Speaker 01

  No.

• 24:23Speaker 02

  Like, I have a deviated septum, I need to get fixed, that I can't stop thinking about.

• 24:29Speaker 01

  So you don't have your day off?

• 24:31Speaker 02

  No, I, so the thing is, I do.

• 24:38Speaker 01

  You need day off.

• 24:40Speaker 02

  No, the thing, the thing is, you just clocked me in a way that I don't even think.

• 24:46Speaker 01

  I'm sorry.

• 24:47Speaker 02

  You realize you clocked me, it's like, I have so many days off and I do nothing with them. I just push it off, push it off, push it off, push it off.

• 24:57Speaker 01

  It's okay, it's fine, is it like?

• 25:00Speaker 02

  Just like, I can, like, my earplugs, I'm like, oh, God. Maybe I, I think I live to complain. Yeah, I think that's what it is.

• 25:09Speaker 01

  Same.

• 25:10Speaker 02

  So, training camp sounded like, it was like, a lot. And you were there for how many years until you debuted?

• 25:16Speaker 01

  Uh, five years.

• 25:17Speaker 02

  Five years.

• 25:18Speaker 01

  Five.

• 25:19Speaker 02

  Do you have a favorite memory, or when, when, when did you realize, like, oh, it's gonna be us four?

• 25:25Speaker 01

  I don't know, it's like, last, I feel like last two years or year and a half, where like, we're just stick together, only four of us. And we know that it's gonna be only four of us. But even though that takes time for us to like, you know, find, found the right, um, song to put out, to put out for the first song. And we chose, um, uh, Whistle and Boom Baya.

• 25:52Speaker 02

  Boom Baya.

• 25:54Speaker 01

  I love, I love, but I can't do that anymore. My neck is not as young as I used to.

• 26:01Speaker 02

  I love the song, what song, um?

• 26:15Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 26:16Speaker 02

  Need Your Love? Something you're love.

• 26:19Speaker 01

  Ready for love.

• 26:19Speaker 02

  Ready for love.

• 26:20Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 26:21Speaker 02

  So good.

• 26:22Speaker 01

  Ready for love, I'm ready for love, yes, it's so good.

• 26:25Speaker 02

  Do you have a favorite Blackpink song?

• 26:27Speaker 01

  Ooh, Jump.

• 26:30Speaker 02

  Me too.

• 26:32Speaker 01

  Cause we're besties.

• 26:33Speaker 02

  Cause we're besties, when Jump came out, I was like, oh, my God, like, I was moving. And that music video is unbelievable.

• 26:41Speaker 01

  I know, it's crazy.

• 26:42Speaker 02

  When bouncing their heads like this.

• 26:45Speaker 01

  Dave Meyer, he's amazing, oh, we had so much fun.

• 26:49Speaker 02

  I've worked with Dave Meyer.

• 26:51Speaker 01

  Dave Meyer, yeah.

• 26:52Speaker 02

  He did my puppy ad. He's amazing.

• 26:55Speaker 01

  He's amazing.

• 26:56Speaker 02

  He's amazing, I didn't know he did that.

• 26:57Speaker 01

  Yeah, he did, um, Jump.

• 27:00Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 27:00Speaker 01

  Yes, and he did, uh, New Woman for, for my song as well.

• 27:05Speaker 02

  Oh, wow, okay.

• 27:06Speaker 01

  Yeah, with Rosalia.

• 27:08Speaker 02

  Wow, what was it like working with Rosalia?

• 27:11Speaker 01

  I miss her, I love her.

• 27:12Speaker 02

  She's amazing.

• 27:14Speaker 01

  She's amazing, she's so professional.

• 27:16Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 27:16Speaker 01

  I learned a lot from her on set, I'm like, oh, wow.

• 27:21Speaker 02

  What, what'd you learn?

• 27:22Speaker 01

  She's just so professional, she just like, she just know how to, you know, how to, how to move and like, I was just like, I thought I could just like stand, but she's like, it's charisma. Her charisma is different.

• 27:35Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 27:36Speaker 01

  That's it, yeah.

• 27:37Speaker 02

  Do you feel like you're learning as you step more into your solo career? Do you feel like you're learning more how to like, express your create, your own creativity? As opposed to like, abiding by what someone gives you and tells you to do?

• 27:50Speaker 01

  Yeah, I feel like she's so creative, like, on set, like, even though it's not her part, but she knows how to, she just like, pop like a bubble gum, she's like, she's like, wow, I never thought about that, you know? It's just like, some little thing that she just do it, and it's, and it's her.

• 28:07Speaker 02

  Yeah, and I saw you also work with, uh, Tyler, and she was like, she was like telling you, she was like, oh, touch him, like, do the.

• 28:14Speaker 01

  That's so embarrassing.

• 28:15Speaker 02

  Wait, no, it was not.

• 28:18Speaker 01

  He's so hot.

• 28:19Speaker 02

  He was so hot.

• 28:19Speaker 01

  He was so hot.

• 28:20Speaker 02

  But you're hotter. You're hotter, and like, also like, it was real, that was a really sweet moment in the documentary.

• 28:28Speaker 01

  Every single time that, um, that scene come out, I'm like, I can't watch, I'm like.

• 28:34Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah.

• 28:35Speaker 01

  I can't watch myself, I'm like, uh, bye.

• 28:39Speaker 02

  Yeah, because, well, you were so used to only.

• 28:42Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 28:43Speaker 02

  Dancing with your three sisters.

• 28:46Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 28:46Speaker 02

  Yeah, and do you guys still keep in touch?

• 28:49Speaker 01

  Yeah, so they just text me last night, like, congratulations on the, on the, yeah.

• 28:55Speaker 02

  You did Rockstar at the VMAs as well.

• 28:57Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 28:58Speaker 02

  What was different from performing, like, how did you feel differently from performing this year at the VMAs? From performing Rockstar at the VMAs?

• 29:06Speaker 01

  Well, it's a little different, I feel like that was like the first time that I was like, you know, doing my solo song, um, uh, at the VMAs. Because before that, it was Blackpink.

• 29:19Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 29:19Speaker 01

  We did Pink Venom, but I feel like it's still the same, like, the inside, it's just like, I'm nervous and I want to do good. So, it's the same, but it's a little different is, I know, I know what to do.

• 29:34Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 29:34Speaker 01

  Like, I know how to focus, how to like, you know, not to, not being like, oh my God, oh my God, what, what's next, what's next?

• 29:41Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 29:42Speaker 01

  So, I'm more calm.

• 29:44Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 29:45Speaker 01

  I guess.

• 29:46Speaker 02

  Do you enter like.

• 29:47Speaker 01

  Like five percent more calm.

• 29:48Speaker 02

  Do you enter like a different persona when you step on stage?

• 29:51Speaker 01

  Uh, I don't, I don't think so, it's just, it's just.

• 29:57Speaker 02

  It's always La, always La Lisa.

• 29:59Speaker 01

  It's always me, it's always La Lisa, but I feel like, I feel like, um, stage is my safe zone. And I'm doing, I'm, I'm not doing something too crazy, I know what I'm doing, and I practice for it. So, I kind of know what I can, what to expect. But of, of course, like, when I see the audience, my fans, they're screaming, they're having fun with me, it's just, I just gain energy through that. And I, and I can do more on stage.

• 30:32Speaker 02

  Do you have a song you're most excited to perform off the EP?

• 30:35Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 30:40Speaker 01

  Oh, so many. I excited to perform V12. Mm-hmm, and wait, so many, every single one, every single of them, V12,

• 30:58Speaker 01

  Cobra.

• 30:59Speaker 02

  Cobra.

• 30:59Speaker 01

  I love Cobra.

• 31:00Speaker 02

  I love Tarantino.

• 31:01Speaker 01

  I love Tarantino.

• 31:04Speaker 02

  I really hope you do Dream.

• 31:06Speaker 01

  I will.

• 31:07Speaker 02

  I like love that song.

• 31:08Speaker 01

  I will.

• 31:09Speaker 02

  I like, when I saw you won for Best Pop and it was for Dream, I was like, oh.

• 31:14Speaker 01

  I know.

• 31:15Speaker 02

  I love that song and watching you show it to your friends.

• 31:17Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 31:17Speaker 02

  And then you told them that you were like, I think everyone thinks they know who this is about, but they don't know who it's about.

• 31:22Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 31:23Speaker 02

  Was awesome.

• 31:25Speaker 01

  Well, I hope he saw that I won. That would, his song.

• 31:32Speaker 02

  Exactly.

• 31:34Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 31:35Speaker 02

  I love your use of samples.

• 31:36Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 31:37Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 31:37Speaker 01

  I, I love that song since I was little.

• 31:40Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 31:40Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 31:40Speaker 02

  What were some of your favorite songs growing up?

• 31:42Speaker 01

  I love a lot of Britney Spears, um, music as well when I was little because my, my cousin, she's the big fan of Britney Spears, so I listened to, wait, what is it called? Toxic, no.

• 31:56Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 31:56Speaker 01

  It's Toxic Circus.

• 31:58Speaker 02

  Circus, yeah.

• 31:58Speaker 01

  Oh, so good, yeah. And, I don't know, growing up, Justin Bieber.

• 32:05Speaker 02

  Yeah, always.

• 32:07Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 32:07Speaker 02

  Always Justin Bieber.

• 32:08Speaker 01

  Rihanna, Beyonce, Lady Gaga.

• 32:11Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 32:12Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 32:13Speaker 02

  What are some of your favorite memories from growing up before you went to trainee camp?

• 32:20Speaker 01

  What's my favorite?

• 32:21Speaker 02

  Like some of your favorite memories growing up in Thailand?

• 32:23Speaker 01

  Oh, every single, no, not every single birthday of my, um, this one birthday party, I had like a little party at my house when I was 10 and then, um, I invited my friends over and my dad cooked them like a chocolate mousse.

• 32:44Speaker 02

  Ooh.

• 32:45Speaker 01

  It's so good. And then he gave me the envelope. I was like, well, what is this? And he was like, open it, open it, open it. And I'm like, okay. And I opened it, it's a Disneyland ticket, tickets for, for my birthday. I'm like, oh, cuz he knows that I love Disney so much.

• 33:04Speaker 02

  Uh-huh.

• 33:04Speaker 01

  And I wanted to go to Disneyland and Hong Kong Disneyland is the, it's like the closest.

• 33:10Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 33:11Speaker 01

  For, uh, for us.

• 33:12Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 33:13Speaker 01

  To fly from Thailand, you know, so, yeah, that's like, that's still like fresh in my head.

• 33:19Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 33:20Speaker 01

  It's like the most, like, good memory of, yeah, when I was a child.

• 33:26Speaker 02

  Um, should we get into the Tell Me What's Wrong?

• 33:28Speaker 01

  Okay, what is this?

• 33:30Speaker 02

  These are where people write in questions and we give them advice.

• 33:34Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 33:35Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 33:36Speaker 01

  Oh, my gosh.

• 33:37Speaker 02

  So it's fun.

• 33:38Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 33:39Speaker 02

  I have this bit where whenever me and my friends are out, I always make up fake stuff that they've done, said, et cetera. I know on paper this sounds evil, but it's always so clearly a joke and we always leads to us endearing ourselves to whatever new group we're with, but my friends hate it. Oh, so she, they make, when they go out.

• 33:56Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 33:56Speaker 02

  When they go out, she makes up stories, like she lies.

• 33:59Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 34:00Speaker 02

  She lies and makes up stories to make new friends and her friends get really angry about it, but she loves it. I would say keep doing you. That's what I would say. I would say keep doing you.

• 34:08Speaker 01

  Yeah, why not?

• 34:10Speaker 02

  Right, cuz she says it helps them make new friends.

• 34:13Speaker 01

  Oh, but the friends who already friends hate it.

• 34:15Speaker 02

  Stop lying about us, like, stop making up stuff. It would be like if I went out and was like, pretended to be British. And like pretended that like.

• 34:23Speaker 01

  It's kind of fun, though.

• 34:24Speaker 02

  Yeah, I think it's fun.

• 34:24Speaker 01

  We need, we need that kind of friends in the group.

• 34:27Speaker 02

  Agreed.

• 34:28Speaker 01

  Right?

• 34:28Speaker 02

  Do you like to go out?

• 34:29Speaker 01

  Um, not really.

• 34:31Speaker 02

  Really?

• 34:31Speaker 01

  Sometimes. Do you?

• 34:33Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 34:36Speaker 02

  That's why I said I could go vodka, I could go, I could go tequila, I could go gin, I could go whatever you need.

• 34:41Speaker 01

  Yeah. Okay, even though you love vodka, vodka, if you see me, you'll be like, oh, I love tequila.

• 34:46Speaker 02

  Yes, yes, yes, shape shifter, yes. But like, I do, like, yeah, I love to go out. What, have, do you have like a favorite? Well, you said the first time you ever went clubbing was when you were 25.

• 34:58Speaker 01

  Yeah, at, in Vegas.

• 35:00Speaker 02

  In Vegas?

• 35:00Speaker 01

  That's my first club.

• 35:01Speaker 02

  Did you go to XS?

• 35:03Speaker 01

  I don't know where, I don't remember. I don't know names.

• 35:05Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 35:06Speaker 01

  I just go in and then I don't ask like where.

• 35:08Speaker 02

  What was your first clubbing experience like?

• 35:11Speaker 01

  So good.

• 35:12Speaker 02

  It's so fun.

• 35:13Speaker 01

  So good. I think I tr, I start to drink tequila since, since that first club.

• 35:19Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 35:20Speaker 01

  And then it's, my throat, uh, it's just, you know, my throat is just, my voice is gone the day after. And then I keep doing that for like a couple of months and now like, I'm good, I'm fine. Like, after tequila shot, day after, I can, I can sing. It's, yeah.

• 35:39Speaker 02

  Yeah, I learned recently that like.

• 35:41Speaker 01

  I'm a grown, I'm a grown up now.

• 35:43Speaker 02

  Yeah, no, that's what it feels like. I'm like, okay, like, I feel like I can take more than I think, you know, cuz sometimes when I go out, I'm like, I can't move. Like, do you get hungover?

• 35:52Speaker 01

  Every single time.

• 35:53Speaker 02

  Every, what do you, what's your like, what do you do when you're hungover? Or I assume you just have to push through?

• 35:58Speaker 01

  Coconut water.

• 35:59Speaker 02

  Oh, really?

• 36:00Speaker 01

  Drink coconut water, um, sleep a lot, um, some, uh, cup noodle.

• 36:07Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 36:07Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 36:08Speaker 02

  What is yours like sleeping routine? Do you sleep hot? Do you sleep cold?

• 36:12Speaker 01

  Sleep hot.

• 36:13Speaker 02

  How hot?

• 36:14Speaker 01

  Sleep warm. Can I say warm? Not hot.

• 36:16Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 36:16Speaker 01

  It's just like, it's right, it's just like till here.

• 36:20Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm. And like no air conditioner?

• 36:23Speaker 01

  No air conditioner.

• 36:24Speaker 02

  Okay, I sleep at 62 degrees.

• 36:26Speaker 01

  Yeah, but LA is hot now. Today is really hot.

• 36:29Speaker 02

  I know.

• 36:30Speaker 01

  Today's?

• 36:32Speaker 02

  It was so ungodly hot the other week that I left the house and just walked back inside and said, I'm not doing this.

• 36:37Speaker 01

  You're like, I'm not going out.

• 36:38Speaker 02

  I'm not going out. I said, I'm not doing this. I'm gonna go watch TV, which I do all the time.

• 36:43Speaker 01

  What, what do you watch? What's your favorite show?

• 36:45Speaker 02

  Oh, my God, okay. What type of shows do you like? Like, what type of show would you wanna watch? Cuz I'll give you a recommendation based off of that.

• 36:52Speaker 01

  Ah, hmm, something cutesy.

• 36:55Speaker 02

  If you want something cutesy, I think you would really like Off Campus.

• 36:59Speaker 01

  Oh, I heard.

• 37:01Speaker 02

  I think you would really like Off Campus.

• 37:03Speaker 01

  Wait, I think I watched like the first episode or something.

• 37:05Speaker 02

  It gets really, really good.

• 37:07Speaker 01

  It's season two is coming.

• 37:08Speaker 02

  Locked, yes, and they're already filming, like, so you can just lock in now.

• 37:12Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 37:12Speaker 02

  Off Campus is amazing. I loved, well, if you want something like juicy, like, my favorite show of all time is Scandal.

• 37:19Speaker 01

  Ah, Scandal?

• 37:20Speaker 02

  With Kerry Washington. It's about a woman who runs this like PR crisis firm in, like, pu, like DC that like helps like clients with like emergencies.

• 37:31Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 37:32Speaker 02

  And it's very scandalous.

• 37:33Speaker 01

  Okay, juicy.

• 37:34Speaker 02

  Very juicy, very juicy. She, she's hooking up with the president.

• 37:38Speaker 01

  Oh, okay. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.

• 37:42Speaker 02

  It's the best show ever.

• 37:43Speaker 01

  Wait, with Scandal?

• 37:44Speaker 02

  Scandal.

• 37:44Speaker 01

  Okay, Scandal.

• 37:45Speaker 02

  It is seven seasons.

• 37:47Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 37:48Speaker 02

  You will, so if you're ever like, if you're ever like, I'm so bored, what do I do? Scandal. I've rewatched it three times.

• 37:53Speaker 01

  Why you, wow.

• 37:54Speaker 02

  So I'm, yeah, see, days off.

• 37:56Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 37:56Speaker 02

  A lot of them.

• 37:57Speaker 01

  Okay, okay, seven seasons.

• 37:59Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 38:00Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 38:00Speaker 02

  What is your, speaking of season, what is your favorite season of the year?

• 38:06Speaker 01

  What? I love, I love fall.

• 38:10Speaker 02

  Me too. Fall and spring. Summer's too hot, winter's too cold.

• 38:14Speaker 01

  Yeah, same.

• 38:15Speaker 02

  You know?

• 38:16Speaker 01

  Winter, oh, no.

• 38:18Speaker 02

  Winter's the dark ages.

• 38:19Speaker 01

  Ah, I can't, I can't do winter. But I have a lot of beautiful coats, so.

• 38:24Speaker 02

  That's what I was thinking about too. I was looking at my coats the other day. I was like, I'm so excited to wear you in the winter.

• 38:31Speaker 01

  But I hate winter, but, yeah.

• 38:32Speaker 02

  Do you love to shop?

• 38:33Speaker 01

  I love shopping.

• 38:34Speaker 02

  More than anything in the world.

• 38:35Speaker 01

  Oh, I need to stop.

• 38:36Speaker 02

  No, you don't.

• 38:37Speaker 01

  I told myself to stop.

• 38:38Speaker 02

  You deserve it.

• 38:39Speaker 01

  Okay, yes, we deserve.

• 38:41Speaker 02

  We deserve it.

• 38:42Speaker 01

  Yeah, we deserve it.

• 38:43Speaker 02

  What's your favorite thing to shop for?

• 38:45Speaker 01

  Ah, coats.

• 38:48Speaker 02

  Coats? Coats feel like the most, like you get the most wear for them. I love watches.

• 38:52Speaker 01

  Oh, you love watches? I used to collect like love watches, but not anymore.

• 38:57Speaker 02

  That's why when you say, timepiece from Geneva.

• 38:59Speaker 01

  Yeah, but if you know it and you know. Ah, now, changed to collecting cars.

• 39:05Speaker 02

  You're collecting cars?

• 39:06Speaker 01

  Yeah, but not, not like, I don't, I'm not, I don't wanna say like, I'm a collector.

• 39:10Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah.

• 39:11Speaker 01

  I'm just a collector.

• 39:12Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 39:13Speaker 01

  I'm a collector, yeah.

• 39:14Speaker 02

  Well, you know, they just, they just released their first four seater Ferrari.

• 39:18Speaker 01

  Sorry?

• 39:18Speaker 02

  They just released their first four seater Ferrari.

• 39:20Speaker 01

  Ah, oh, yes.

• 39:22Speaker 02

  I was in it yesterday. I was like, ooh, this is nice. Yeah, it was like four, there was, cuz I've only ever been in a two seater Ferrari and it was four seats. It was like a proper, like.

• 39:32Speaker 01

  Like a SUV?

• 39:33Speaker 02

  Yeah, not an SUV, but like a.

• 39:36Speaker 01

  Wait, which one are you talking about?

• 39:38Speaker 02

  I couldn't tell you the name.

• 39:39Speaker 01

  I guess it's just, they just released.

• 39:41Speaker 02

  Yeah, I was told it was the first four seater.

• 39:43Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 39:44Speaker 02

  Am I right?

• 39:45Speaker 03

  Yeah, the Ferrari.

• 39:46Speaker 01

  Pro Sange?

• 39:47Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 39:48Speaker 01

  Ah, Pro Sange, I have.

• 39:49Speaker 02

  Ah, period.

• 39:52Speaker 01

  I have that.

• 39:53Speaker 02

  My ex and I broke up a little over a month ago and it ended really badly. I finally felt okay and felt like I was moving on and then he got a job at my work. I have to see him multiple times a day and he purposefully parks right beside me in the parking lot, even though the lot is huge. He's been in tryhard mode too, sucking up to the boss and my theory is he's talking shit about me to my coworkers. This is unhinged, please help me. I know.

• 40:22Speaker 01

  He did it on purpose?

• 40:23Speaker 02

  He's, of course. Men are evil. Men are evil and easy.

• 40:27Speaker 01

  Red flag.

• 40:28Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 40:29Speaker 01

  Oh, my God.

• 40:30Speaker 02

  So here's what I would do if I were her.

• 40:32Speaker 01

  What?

• 40:32Speaker 02

  I would start playing the game right back. Like, you have to, like, if he is, or actually, you know what? My frontal lobe, my, my frontal lobe is developed. So let me take back my answer.

• 40:42Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 40:42Speaker 02

  If I were her, I would just take the high road and know that everyone's true colors come out eventually.

• 40:48Speaker 01

  Uh-huh.

• 40:48Speaker 02

  And his true colors will come out eventually.

• 40:50Speaker 01

  So you're just gonna wait?

• 40:51Speaker 02

  I just wait it out, the waiting game.

• 40:53Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 40:54Speaker 02

  Like the bo, your bosses will see cuz she's scared that he is like, kind of talking, trying to get, he got a job where she works.

• 41:02Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 41:02Speaker 02

  And she's scared that he's trying to get her out.

• 41:05Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 41:09Speaker 02

  Right.

• 41:12Speaker 01

  I don't know how people have to deal with this.

• 41:14Speaker 02

  I know.

• 41:15Speaker 01

  I was like, how?

• 41:16Speaker 02

  I know.

• 41:17Speaker 01

  I don't even know.

• 41:18Speaker 02

  But what is your biggest red flag in a relationship? And biggest, biggest green flag?

• 41:27Speaker 01

  Biggest red flag? I went to a sushi place with my mom and my, one of my best friends. And it's like, it's our, it's like, it's our favorite, like, our favorite spot.

• 41:41Speaker 02

  Uh huh.

• 41:42Speaker 01

  And I was like, oh my god, I'm taking, I'm bringing my mom and my friends is here too. It's like only three of us, three girls, like, we're gonna eat. And I was just like joking, I was like, oh, are you gonna pay for us? Are you gonna, you know, take care of the bill? He's like, ha, no.

• 41:59Speaker 02

  Even if I'm kidding, say yes.

• 42:02Speaker 01

  I'm like, is that a red flag or no?

• 42:04Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 42:06Speaker 01

  It's like, it's my-

• 42:07Speaker 02

  You're a, you're a rock star and you should be treated as such.

• 42:10Speaker 01

  I mean, I, I'm not like, I'm not ca- I'm not asking for, for, to pay my meal every single time, you know? It's just like-

• 42:18Speaker 02

  But also, if he's courting you and like trying to gain your love, I think, and you were making the joke, like, yeah, pay for me. Pay for me.

• 42:27Speaker 01

  I was like, I thought, I was like, oh, maybe he just said no, or he's gonna like surprise later, that like-

• 42:32Speaker 02

  No surprise.

• 42:32Speaker 01

  No, no surprise, I, I paid.

• 42:34Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah.

• 42:35Speaker 01

  Yeah, so I was like, oh, that's a surprise.

• 42:37Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 42:37Speaker 01

  I was like, okay, this is a surprise, I'm paying myself.

• 42:41Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 42:41Speaker 01

  I was like, cool.

• 42:43Speaker 02

  What is your biggest green flag?

• 42:45Speaker 01

  Everything little thing, you know, it's just like, open a water for you, like, you know, it's like, it's just a little tiny thing that, it's nice.

• 42:55Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 42:55Speaker 01

  Yeah, like, I, I can do by myself, but it's just like, it's just doing something that you don't even have to ask.

• 43:01Speaker 02

  Yeah, so it's like, what is that, uh, what type of love language is that?

• 43:05Speaker 01

  Oh, acts of service.

• 43:06Speaker 02

  Acts of service, there's like multiple love languages, and I think my love language is words of affirmation.

• 43:11Speaker 01

  What is affirmation of?

• 43:12Speaker 02

  So like someone, me being like, you're so beautiful, you're so great, you're so amazing.

• 43:17Speaker 01

  You kept saying that.

• 43:18Speaker 02

  Yeah, like, that's like the way, like, I feel love. Like, if someone like tells me, like, you're, I love you, I love you, I love you, I'm like, oh, okay, great.

• 43:24Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 43:25Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 43:26Speaker 01

  I don't know what's my love language is, I have to try to figure it out. Oh.

• 43:31Speaker 02

  Yeah, paying the bill, opening your water.

• 43:33Speaker 01

  It's like, I don't need, I don't need guys to pay every single bill, you know? But I have money too, but it's just like, it's a little thing that, it's just that night.

• 43:41Speaker 02

  It shows you love.

• 43:42Speaker 01

  Yeah, I was with my mom, you know, if it's just, you know, it's just-

• 43:46Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 43:47Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 43:47Speaker 02

  Do you co- do you cook a lot? Cause your stepdad's a cook, right?

• 43:50Speaker 01

  Yeah, I don't cook.

• 43:51Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 43:52Speaker 01

  My mom doesn't cook.

• 43:53Speaker 02

  He cooks.

• 43:54Speaker 01

  He cooks.

• 43:55Speaker 02

  What's his fa- what's your favorite dish of his that he makes?

• 43:57Speaker 01

  Um, he do like a, uh, what do you call, wait, I forgot a name, it's like a mashed potato pancake.

• 44:04Speaker 02

  I know exactly what you're talking about, I know exactly what you're talking about.

• 44:07Speaker 01

  Am I, am I selling it right? R O S C I, roastie. Roastie, roastie.

• 44:11Speaker 02

  Mmm.

• 44:12Speaker 01

  Like a hash brown, and it's like a, yeah, like a pancake, like a more, like a big hash brown.

• 44:17Speaker 02

  Oh, that sounds so good.

• 44:19Speaker 01

  So good. So good.

• 44:21Speaker 02

  I'm so excited to see your biggest residency.

• 44:23Speaker 01

  I know, it's coming up.

• 44:25Speaker 02

  And how many, you're doing two weeks, or?

• 44:28Speaker 01

  Six shows.

• 44:28Speaker 02

  Okay, your fanbase and like, you're, like, um, is very like, interested in your life, obviously. How are you able to like keep things private and to yourself?

• 44:39Speaker 01

  I, I just don't talk.

• 44:42Speaker 01

  I don't talk, I don't put anything, I don't, private, I feel like right now, my fan know. Know how to like deal with it.

• 44:51Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 44:51Speaker 01

  If they don't understand, it's like-

• 44:53Speaker 02

  If they don't understand you, then?

• 44:55Speaker 01

  Yeah, because we're human, you know, like, we, we need our, our, our life too.

• 45:03Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 45:03Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 45:04Speaker 02

  Well, Lisa.

• 45:06Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 45:07Speaker 02

  What did we learn today?

• 45:08Speaker 01

  We learned so many, red flag, green flag.

• 45:11Speaker 02

  I learned that it's quite normal to change your name in Thailand.

• 45:16Speaker 01

  Oh yes, normal.

• 45:17Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 45:17Speaker 01

  Yeah, do you wanna change your name? No, you love your name.

• 45:21Speaker 02

  Yeah, I do love my name, I do love my name.

• 45:24Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 45:24Speaker 02

  We learned that your EP, Press Play, is out now. It is incredible, you can press play on it now.

• 45:32Speaker 01

  Please, just press play, press play.

• 45:34Speaker 02

  Press play.

• 45:35Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 45:36Speaker 02

  We learned that you won your first non-K-pop award last night as a solo artist.

• 45:44Speaker 02

  And many more are to come.

• 45:46Speaker 01

  Yay, thank you.

• 45:47Speaker 02

  Lisa, thank you so much for coming on the show.

• 45:49Speaker 01

  Thank you, thank you for having me.

• 45:50Speaker 02

  Of course.

• 46:06Speaker 04

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