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0:01 Speaker 00 Into the wild, the Cartier Panther encounters a shimmering crocodile, a lonely lovebird, a breathless zebra, and a restless tiger.
0:27 Speaker 01 Hi pussies, welcome back to Therapuzz. Tonight, we have on Alicia from The Real Housewives of Rhode Island, one of my favorite shows on television, and it is also one of Manny's favorite shows on television.
0:38 Speaker 02 It is.
0:39 Speaker 01 This is your first intro.
0:40 Speaker 02 This is my first intro, and I'm a little nervous.
0:42 Speaker 01 Oh, don't be nervous.
0:43 Speaker 02 Okay.
0:43 Speaker 01 We're just gonna talk about how much we love Alicia, and what do you love about Real Housewives of Rhode Island?
0:48 Speaker 02 What don't I love about The Real Housewives of Rhode Island? Basically, every single woman on it is, like, wild. They all have the best accents ever, and just hearing them speak to each other is a treat.
1:03 Speaker 01 Yes.
1:04 Speaker 02 They're just silly, they're like insane. They all have these, like, crazy houses and crazy jobs. Like, one of them owns a weed store, one of them owns a pizza store.
1:15 Speaker 01 Where we went, oh, I'm so-
1:17 Speaker 02 I didn't get to go.
1:18 Speaker 01 Manny, and the pizza?
1:19 Speaker 02 I know.
1:20 Speaker 01 You know I don't like pizza? It was fucking amazing.
1:23 Speaker 02 So good. You know I was looking-
1:25 Speaker 01 She has like a hot honey pizza.
1:26 Speaker 02 Yeah, I was looking at their Yelp.
1:27 Speaker 01 She has the heart-shaped pizza.
1:29 Speaker 02 I know, and I'm really bummed that I wasn't there.
1:32 Speaker 01 We'll see her again.
1:33 Speaker 02 Oh, I feel it in my bones.
1:34 Speaker 01 She's everything.
1:36 Speaker 02 Yeah, I know.
1:36 Speaker 01 She's everything.
1:37 Speaker 02 I know.
1:37 Speaker 01 And she gives pretty good advice in this episode. She gives some really good advice. The housewives always give great advice.
1:44 Speaker 02 Well, because they've, like, lived lives.
1:46 Speaker 01 Yeah.
1:46 Speaker 02 Like, all of them. Like, they, they've been through a lot, pre-show and on the show.
1:52 Speaker 01 I think that's what makes watching Housewives, like, so empowering.
1:55 Speaker 02 Mm-hmm.
1:55 Speaker 01 I, like, feel so empowered when I watch Housewives.
1:58 Speaker 02 Me too.
1:59 Speaker 01 I feel like, I'm like, oh my god, if they can do that, I can do anything.
2:02 Speaker 02 Yes, well, also, you were mentioning this before, about how it's like, they get in these crazy fights, and then they move on and they make up and they're best friends again.
2:10 Speaker 01 Yeah.
2:10 Speaker 02 I don't know people like that in real life. And it's so fun to watch that on screen because it really is like, wow, they go to like the deepest, darkest depths of their anger and shame and screaming and whatever. And then like a month later, they're best friends again and they move on. Like they are strong people.
2:27 Speaker 01 And it's like, kind of the beauty of life.
2:29 Speaker 02 I know.
2:30 Speaker 01 It's like, really, they put water under the bridge and they're like, we gotta make a show. Let's just keep going.
2:35 Speaker 02 Yeah.
2:36 Speaker 01 I hope you guys enjoyed tonight's episode. We filmed it at Pizza Mama in Rhode Island. Because for me, that there was nowhere else to film this episode. Alicia is so, I think she is going, I think she is bound to be one of the greatest housewives we've ever seen.
2:51 Speaker 03 I, I do want to add something because I went out to Rhode Island to film this with everybody. And I want to shout out Billy as well and Alicia because they were so hospital or.
3:02 Speaker 01 Hospitable.
3:02 Speaker 03 Yes, to me, when I got there, they moved like the earth to make sure that we could set up. After we went through like two bottles of prosecco and they just fed me. Um, and then Billy like helped me put my luggage into the car for the airport, helped me clean up. And the whole staff at Pizza Mama, it was really fun day. And I just want to shout them out.
3:23 Speaker 01 Oh, amazing. Fucking shout out Alicia, shout out Billy, shout out the entire staff at Pizza Mama. It is really like, you walk in there and that place feels like home. I'm telling you.
3:36 Speaker 02 Also, did you watch the finale?
3:38 Speaker 01 I did.
3:39 Speaker 02 You did?
3:39 Speaker 01 I did.
3:40 Speaker 02 I am obsessed with Billy and Alicia from the finale.
3:43 Speaker 01 He loves her so much. When he re-proposed to her.
3:46 Speaker 02 I know.
3:47 Speaker 01 Oh, my God.
3:48 Speaker 02 And then she just kept being like, you've never done anything like this ever. The entire time I've known you. And you kept being like, yeah, I know.
3:53 Speaker 01 Yeah, that's why, that's why I'm doing it now.
3:55 Speaker 02 I know. I love them.
3:57 Speaker 01 You were never homeless. You were never homeless.
4:02 Speaker 02 I know. Wow, that's a good impression.
4:05 Speaker 01 Thank you.
4:06 Speaker 02 They keep saying about Liz and, but Liz was saying it about herself, which kind of makes me like, she's like, I'm the sweetest person. I'm a sheep in wolf's clothing. I don't know if you could say that about yourself.
4:16 Speaker 01 So she's essentially claiming she has a tough exterior, but deep down she's nice.
4:19 Speaker 02 Yes.
4:20 Speaker 01 So her actions are mean, but actually she's nice.
4:23 Speaker 02 Yes.
4:23 Speaker 01 You can't say that about yourself.
4:24 Speaker 02 I agree.
4:25 Speaker 01 Can't wait for the reunion.
4:26 Speaker 02 I know.
4:27 Speaker 01 I'm so excited.
4:28 Speaker 02 Me too.
4:29 Speaker 01 Enjoy the episode, pussies. I love you guys.
4:34 Speaker 01 Alicia Comedy. Welcome to Therapus.
4:37 Speaker 04 Oh my god, I love you. I'm so excited.
4:38 Speaker 01 I love you, I'm so excited. I brought you crackers and Fig Newtons. And we're drinking wine.
4:42 Speaker 04 That is the best gift in the world, because everyone knows how much I love this. Like, I'm like, literally, I live off of this stuff.
4:47 Speaker 01 Have you been eating them forever?
4:48 Speaker 04 I've been eating these since I was a child.
4:51 Speaker 01 Right, right, right.
4:51 Speaker 04 And so to be honest with you with the crackers, I think it's more of like a nervous thing. Like, I have anxiety.
4:55 Speaker 01 Right.
4:56 Speaker 04 And I didn't realize how much I talked about crackers until watching myself back on the show.
4:59 Speaker 01 Oh, you like, didn't even clock it in the moment?
5:01 Speaker 04 No.
5:01 Speaker 01 Because you were so in it. We were just talking about that.
5:03 Speaker 04 Yeah. Like, it was my anxiety. Like, you know when you get butterflies?
5:05 Speaker 01 Yeah.
5:05 Speaker 04 Like, that feeling? I would just want a cracker.
5:08 Speaker 01 Right, right.
5:09 Speaker 04 You know, like, some people want a cig. I wanted a cracker.
5:11 Speaker 01 You smoke cigs?
5:12 Speaker 04 I used to. I don't love them no more.
5:14 Speaker 01 Why? Why'd you stop?
5:15 Speaker 04 I got pregnant.
5:16 Speaker 01 Oh, okay. Well, that's always a good reason.
5:18 Speaker 04 Yeah.
5:18 Speaker 01 Yeah. That's always a good reason.
5:20 Speaker 04 Yeah.
5:20 Speaker 01 How was the reunion?
5:22 Speaker 04 The reunion was, um, it was needed. It was very much needed. And I feel like a lot of things had to be said and answered for, too, you know?
5:33 Speaker 01 Were you on good terms with everyone?
5:35 Speaker 04 I was.
5:36 Speaker 01 A not, I remember you, I mean, god, it bring, filming brings it out of you, huh? Like, you're really like...
5:41 Speaker 04 Because you know what? What that, like, I didn't know, like, going into first season is like, if you have to talk about things over and over. So you're like, getting very emotional, talking about things that upset you.
5:50 Speaker 01 Yeah.
5:50 Speaker 04 And I didn't know how the world was gonna react, you know? Like, you're just like, I'm just trying to be yourself and just figuring out as you go, you know?
5:57 Speaker 01 Right. And you've known Liz since you were, what, like, babies?
6:01 Speaker 04 Since I was born.
6:02 Speaker 01 Was it weird, like, filming with her?
6:04 Speaker 04 Yeah, it was fun. But, yeah, at the same time, when you're like, giving me attitude, I'm like, you're giving me attitude on camera, though. Why would you do that?
6:09 Speaker 01 Right, that's sad. At the end of the day, it's like, you're calling me out on camera.
6:12 Speaker 04 Yeah. Yeah, so that part, like, that part's weird. You're like, how do I handle this on camera? Then you're like, you know what? After a while, it's like, if we're just gonna be real, I'm just gonna try this, you know, answer how I would answer her.
6:22 Speaker 01 Right, exactly.
6:23 Speaker 04 You know?
6:23 Speaker 01 Do you fight like that in, like, real life as well? Or was it, like, do you, like, never fight?
6:29 Speaker 04 Like, so normally, I would have never talked to her again. But since I'm on the show with her, like, I'm like, well, I have to forgive her, which is good. Forgiveness is good. Instead of me, I run away from problems.
6:39 Speaker 01 Okay.
6:40 Speaker 04 Instead of addressing them.
6:41 Speaker 01 Right.
6:41 Speaker 04 So I feel like that really helped me a lot, you know?
6:43 Speaker 01 Yeah. You, like, shut down?
6:44 Speaker 04 I shut down and run. I just won't answer phone calls. I avoid, like, the plague. But on this, you, you can't do that. You have to face your fears and, like, have to, you know, respond. And I didn't know how to do that before, you know?
6:55 Speaker 01 Do you think it's, like, making you a better person?
6:58 Speaker 04 It made me a lot stronger.
7:00 Speaker 01 Yeah.
7:00 Speaker 04 A lot stronger, you know? I didn't realize I was that sensitive.
7:04 Speaker 01 You aren't that sensitive. And I, I was with you on the homeless thing.
7:07 Speaker 04 Yes.
7:08 Speaker 01 I was team you all the way. That's your truth.
7:11 Speaker 04 Listen, I never lived on the streets. I never said that. I just said, my father, like, sold our home, took all of our money. And I had to move from house to house. I lived with my aunt, my grandparents. And then he came back in. And so, like, when she was questioning me, I felt like, you know my story, but we li- we grew up very similar.
7:27 Speaker 01 Right, okay.
7:27 Speaker 04 And I didn't, like, know where to go with that. I was stuck in the car for two hours.
7:31 Speaker 01 That was two-hour drive?
7:32 Speaker 04 Two hours of the same story, by the way. Two hours. So I was, like, having a, like, a severe anxiety attack.
7:37 Speaker 01 Did you have crackers?
7:38 Speaker 04 I did. Joanne kept going, "Do you want a crack?" And I was like, "Yeah, I do. I'm nervous," you know?
7:42 Speaker 01 Um, so have you known Jo Ellen? Have you guys have all known each other?
7:46 Speaker 04 Yeah.
7:46 Speaker 01 Just not Ashley?
7:48 Speaker 04 I didn't know Ashley, and I wasn't really close with Rula until maybe a year before we started filming. And same thing with Rose.
7:55 Speaker 01 Okay, thoughts on Ashley?
7:56 Speaker 04 Like, very, I thought she was from, um, Nebraska. I was like, wait, they didn't show that. I was like, girl, you are, like, not from here. You are, like, so Nebraskan.
8:06 Speaker 01 We are Nebraska.
8:07 Speaker 04 I don't know. It's a vibe. And I, like, don't know anything about Nebraska, but, like, she's Nebraskan.
8:13 Speaker 01 I've been to Nebraska. I'm like, I get it.
8:15 Speaker 04 Yeah.
8:15 Speaker 01 Yeah.
8:15 Speaker 04 See, I was right.
8:16 Speaker 01 Yeah, you're always right.
8:17 Speaker 04 I'm always right.
8:18 Speaker 01 You're always right.
8:19 Speaker 04 Thank you.
8:19 Speaker 01 I love, so how have you redecorated this place since the show has come out?
8:23 Speaker 04 We opened it, like, probably, like, a few months before the show came out. And this was, like, an express. This was, like, a tryout, because he owns, like, a lot of restaurants. Like, bigger restaurants. You know what I mean?
8:32 Speaker 01 Well, you gotta get a steak in those, too.
8:33 Speaker 04 Right. Well, no, well, yeah, well, those are his partners and stuff like that, you know?
8:37 Speaker 01 Oh, so that's-
8:37 Speaker 04 This one is, like, my-
8:38 Speaker 01 Baby, this is your baby.
8:40 Speaker 04 So I feel like we want to expand it, but this was like the tryout, you know?
8:43 Speaker 01 Yeah.
8:43 Speaker 04 It was like, who's gonna want to come to a sexy pizzeria? Like, I'm a man, like, I don't want to be like in Pizza Mom with chandeliers. You know what I mean?
8:49 Speaker 01 Well.
8:50 Speaker 04 Well, it's cute, it's sassy.
8:52 Speaker 01 It's sassy, it's perfect. Can we try some pizza chips?
8:55 Speaker 04 Yes, let's do it.
8:56 Speaker 01 I need to try.
8:57 Speaker 04 Pizza chips, Big Will.
8:58 Speaker 01 Big Will?
8:58 Speaker 04 And so Big Will didn't want to do the pizza chips either.
9:01 Speaker 01 Who's Big Will?
9:02 Speaker 04 Oh, I call him Big Will.
9:03 Speaker 01 Oh, oh, I thought you were talking to Billy.
9:05 Speaker 04 Oh, no, Billy.
9:06 Speaker 01 Thank you, Billy. Oh, are they in hearts? Are these hearts?
9:09 Speaker 04 No, they're little circles. So the thing with the pizza chips, it's like a little circle.
9:13 Speaker 01 Okay.
9:13 Speaker 04 It's light, it has like seasoning, maybe like some Parmesan cheese, salt and pepper. And this is the mama note, because I don't really cook.
9:20 Speaker 01 Cooking rule.
9:20 Speaker 04 So this is.
9:21 Speaker 01 If, you want to read it?
9:23 Speaker 04 Cooking rule. If at first you don't succeed, order pizza. Love mama, XOXO. That's my Gossip Girl, you know, the XOXO.
9:29 Speaker 01 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
9:30 Speaker 04 You know, and I had to throw that in there.
9:31 Speaker 01 Do you love Gossip Girl?
9:32 Speaker 04 Of course I do.
9:33 Speaker 01 What other shows do you watch?
9:34 Speaker 04 Ah, I love that show. What's that one? I just said it again. Off Campus.
9:39 Speaker 01 Oh, right?
9:40 Speaker 04 I'm obsessed. I loved that so much. The Summer I Turned Pretty.
9:45 Speaker 01 I never got into The Summer I Turned Pretty.
9:46 Speaker 04 I'm dead. Now I might not talk to you. Wait, why?
9:50 Speaker 01 I don't know, I just could never do it. I tried, I could never do it.
9:53 Speaker 04 You've got to, though, because I felt the same way. It was a start, it was a slow start, but then you start to like love them.
9:58 Speaker 01 Who were you, who did you want to end up with, Billy?
10:00 Speaker 04 What was the cute one that I liked? Jeremy.
10:03 Speaker 01 Oh, you want, you were Team Jeremiah?
10:05 Speaker 04 I loved Jeremiah. He loved her, he loved her so much. The other one was too in his emotions. He was like, I loved, I was the only one that liked Team Jeremiah.
10:15 Speaker 01 Right, right. Oh, my God, okay, this is my first bite.
10:17 Speaker 04 Yeah.
10:19 Speaker 01 Mmm.
10:20 Speaker 04 Light, not.
10:20 Speaker 01 Perfect for the beach!
10:21 Speaker 04 Yes. Right, so good, light, easy. I usually put them on a platter for appetizers when people come over with a charcuterie board, with like mini spinach pies, little pizzas. It's just like a picky. You know what I mean?
10:33 Speaker 01 A picky.
10:33 Speaker 04 But you don't feel like sick. Like, picture being in the sun, you're not feeling like you're having like a grinder. You know what I mean? You're having like something light, just to do what it has to do. Like a grinder.
10:43 Speaker 04 You don't know what a grinder is? I'm so excited.
10:45 Speaker 01 I know the app.
10:46 Speaker 04 Can I teach you? Oh, it's not the app. You know, an Italian grinder. It's so it's um, it's like a sub. It's like a Italian loaf with like the prosciutto and they can do the Italian dressing. The um, cheese is provolone cheese, salami with the peppers and.
11:00 Speaker 01 Oh, it's like a pro- okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. I know that's what you guys call them here.
11:04 Speaker 04 What do you guys call them?
11:05 Speaker 01 Like in Italian?
11:06 Speaker 04 Yeah, oh yeah, the Italian. We call them the grinders.
11:08 Speaker 01 Okay, I love that. Have you, and what is your favorite thing about Rhode Island?
11:12 Speaker 04 Um, oh, there's so many. Like for food, oh, so I like being close to everything.
11:17 Speaker 01 Right.
11:18 Speaker 04 I, cause I don't drive. I also.
11:19 Speaker 01 Neither do I, by the way.
11:20 Speaker 04 You don't?
11:21 Speaker 01 That's something we share in common.
11:22 Speaker 04 Stop it right now.
11:23 Speaker 01 I refuse, I can't.
11:24 Speaker 04 Do you drive like 10 minutes?
11:25 Speaker 01 Nope, I don't even have my license.
11:27 Speaker 04 I love you. Where are you from originally?
11:29 Speaker 01 New York.
11:30 Speaker 04 I'm like, that's why.
11:30 Speaker 01 Yeah, and my dad was like, it's not happening for you.
11:33 Speaker 04 But why though? What did you feel?
11:34 Speaker 01 I would hit someone.
11:35 Speaker 04 You did?
11:36 Speaker 01 No, I would.
11:37 Speaker 04 Oh, okay, yeah.
11:40 Speaker 04 I know you did, so we're like, we're supposed to be friends.
11:42 Speaker 01 I know we're supposed to be friends.
11:43 Speaker 04 Yes, what sign are you?
11:45 Speaker 01 Do you wanna guess?
11:47 Speaker 04 I feel like a Leo.
11:49 Speaker 01 No, but I see how you would get there. I'm Scorpio.
11:52 Speaker 04 Oh, Scorpio, I love a Scorpio.
11:53 Speaker 01 What are you?
11:53 Speaker 04 I'm a Sag, I'm right in the cup.
11:55 Speaker 01 Oh, I love a Sag. You're a Sag, aren't you? Amani. Oh, you're a Virgo, oh my god.
12:03 Speaker 04 Oh, that's Billy's birthday. Billy's a Sag.
12:06 Speaker 01 I love it here.
12:08 Speaker 04 We love Sags here, yeah.
12:10 Speaker 01 I'm like brain dead cause of the fucking Knicks.
12:12 Speaker 04 No, Charlie, I'll go, that's okay, I get it.
12:14 Speaker 01 Like, it was, it was.
12:16 Speaker 04 Who did they win?
12:18 Speaker 01 Did they win?
12:20 Speaker 04 Did the Knicks win?
12:21 Speaker 01 Oh, it was like the biggest comeback in sports history.
12:23 Speaker 04 Oh, was it really?
12:24 Speaker 01 Yeah, it was the first quarter, right? I'm like, oh fuck, they're losing. This guy, he was like, I promise you, they're gonna win.
12:32 Speaker 04 Stop it.
12:33 Speaker 01 He was like, he was like serving drinks, he was like, I promise you, mark my words, they're gonna win. And we're down like 30 points. I'm like, how are we gonna win? He said they just need to start shooting threes and they started shooting threes. I don't know what that really means. I think it's like from far away.
12:44 Speaker 04 3 points?
12:44 Speaker 01 Yeah.
12:46 Speaker 04 A little bit further.
12:47 Speaker 01 Yeah, a little bit further. And they won and it was like, I literally, full body chills, all over my body, my tits were hard, like everything, I was like literally like on the floor screaming.
12:56 Speaker 04 It's the best feeling in the world.
12:57 Speaker 01 Community.
12:58 Speaker 04 Right, and you feel the energy in the room and everyone's so happy that it just gives you that boner.
13:03 Speaker 01 What?
13:05 Speaker 01 What team do you root for?
13:07 Speaker 04 So, when I was younger, I don't really watch sports anymore, but I used to love Orlando Magic because I was obsessed with Shaquille O'Neal. And he also was a rapper, did you know that?
13:15 Speaker 01 Shaquille O'Neal?
13:16 Speaker 04 Shaq, I loved him.
13:17 Speaker 01 What rap?
13:18 Speaker 04 Oh, he used to rap. He used to have the hit, like, it was like on a tape, there was tapes, there wasn't cities.
13:24 Speaker 01 Like, oh, a mixtape?
13:25 Speaker 04 No, it was like a tape, like, there was like a Cassette. Cassette, yes. An A B, and I, I used to love his music when I was younger and I just thought he was so epic.
13:33 Speaker 01 What music do you listen to today?
13:35 Speaker 04 I still love Rihanna.
13:37 Speaker 01 Love Rihanna.
13:38 Speaker 04 I can't, like, I, Britney, I love a Britney Spears.
13:40 Speaker 01 Love Britney.
13:41 Speaker 04 I love Whitney Houston, Diana Ross, Tina Turner. I have like a mix, Kanye, Drake, Nicki Minaj, I love them all.
13:49 Speaker 01 What's your favorite Nicki Minaj song?
13:51 Speaker 04 A moment like this.
13:53 Speaker 01 Yeah, I see that for you.
13:54 Speaker 04 Yeah, because it just feel, every time I listen to it, if I'm in a bad mood, I feel like
13:58 Speaker 01 Wait, do you mean moment for life?
13:59 Speaker 04 A moment, oh, yeah.
14:03 Speaker 04 1,000%. I never get anything right, by the way.
14:07 Speaker 01 Well, it's perfect, it's charming.
14:08 Speaker 04 A moment for life is, like, it just gives you life, you know what I mean?
14:12 Speaker 01 Yes, yes, okay, what about, what's your favorite Britney Spears song?
14:16 Speaker 04 Hit me baby one more time. But, when she came back, and when she said, "It's Britney, bitch," you know what I mean? Like, I liked that, you know, so that song too.
14:26 Speaker 01 So blackout Britney?
14:27 Speaker 04 Yes. I loved that too.
14:28 Speaker 01 Are you listening to any new artists today, like, anyone, any of the, like, younger pop girls?
14:32 Speaker 04 I like Pink Pantheress, is that her, I like Pink Pantheress, I don't know if I said her name right, I love them.
14:36 Speaker 01 You did, you did.
14:37 Speaker 04 Yeah, I love her.
14:37 Speaker 01 What song do you like?
14:38 Speaker 04 Well, with the one with Zara, Larson?
14:40 Speaker 01 Stateside?
14:40 Speaker 04 Yes, I like that, see, I'm not good with like the terms, but I just know that, like, when I hear, what, see, the Owen, who does my social media, he'll put a song on, I'd be like, I love that, and that was Pink Panther, what was the name of it? Stateside?
14:51 Speaker 01 Is Owen gay?
14:52 Speaker 04 No, Owen's the most straightest man ever, actually.
14:56 Speaker 01 Good for you, Owen.
14:57 Speaker 04 So sometimes it's like super funny, like having him run my social media, cause like he's like super straight, you know? Like I'll be like, Owen, you gotta like, you know, filter me a little bit, like it's okay.
15:05 Speaker 01 Right, right.
15:06 Speaker 04 He's like, I don't see it, I'm like, well, you should.
15:07 Speaker 01 Oh my god, Angel Owen.
15:10 Speaker 04 Yeah, he's a good guy.
15:10 Speaker 01 Angel, cause you know what, you don't need to filter anything. You look even better in real life.
15:15 Speaker 04 Thank you.
15:15 Speaker 01 No dead ass.
15:16 Speaker 04 Oh, thank you.
15:17 Speaker 01 Like, you look better, you look amazing.
15:18 Speaker 04 Everyone always thought I was like six foot tall, I don't know why on TV, but I'm like 5'1".
15:22 Speaker 01 I'm short too.
15:23 Speaker 04 How tall?
15:24 Speaker 01 You wanna guess?
15:26 Speaker 04 I'm so bad at this game, 5'4"?
15:28 Speaker 01 Yeah, 5'3".
15:29 Speaker 04 See, I'm good.
15:30 Speaker 01 Yeah.
15:30 Speaker 04 Alright, I was a little good. I really lied, I'm good.
15:33 Speaker 01 Alicia, what are you therapist about today?
15:34 Speaker 04 Today, Billy had my daughter here, um, without me knowing, and she wasn't dressed up, she looked like she was a ragged doll, and that stressed me out. Because like, when she shows up here in front of my friends, I like when she's like clean, I don't like when her nails are dirty, I don't like, her hair wasn't brushed, and that like gave me anxiety. Is that weird?
15:52 Speaker 01 Isn't she five?
15:54 Speaker 04 No, she's nine. And she was outside, I go, what is she wearing? She didn't brush her hair, like...
15:59 Speaker 01 I know, my parents used to be on me about that. I used to post videos online, and I wouldn't brush my hair before, it's charming.
16:04 Speaker 04 It's just like what a mom does, like that's what I'm supposed to do, you know? And it bothers me, but that's like the mother of me, so she's lucky, and you're welcome, Selena, if you hear this one day.
16:12 Speaker 01 She will.
16:12 Speaker 04 You know, you're welcome, I care. Cause some mothers don't care, but I do.
16:15 Speaker 01 Right, okay.
16:18 Speaker 01 Oh, hi.
16:19 Speaker 04 Hi.
16:20 Speaker 01 Oh my god, is everyone just so obsessed with Pizza Mama?
16:22 Speaker 04 Uh, you know, they like it, and I'm happy, it's fun for them.
16:25 Speaker 01 Right, right. Okay, so that's what you're therapist about, how has Billy been taking to the reception of the show?
16:32 Speaker 04 I think Billy's actually been better than me, I think that I was having more anxiety.
16:36 Speaker 01 You're having anxiety about it?
16:37 Speaker 04 I didn't have anxiety during filming, but I'm having anxiety like after it.
16:40 Speaker 01 Like you're what people are saying?
16:41 Speaker 04 Just like trying to keep up, like I'm like, oh my god, I work now. Like, I was a cast, no, but like it's a lot more work than people think it is, so it's like...
16:49 Speaker 01 No, yeah, 1,000%.
16:50 Speaker 04 I can't keep up with calendars, and dates, and times, you know, so like he's more like helping me manage my life.
16:57 Speaker 01 What do you mean, like what, like do you miss like work, like life events?
17:01 Speaker 04 Like I just like didn't, I had, I worked like two, three days a week before, and I love that I'm working now, and I love that I get to show that, but like I... I don't know how to manage my schedule yet.
17:11 Speaker 01 You'll learn.
17:11 Speaker 04 Yeah.
17:12 Speaker 01 You'll learn. And like, you know, I don't know how to manage my schedule either.
17:16 Speaker 04 See, alright, well, yeah, it's hard.
17:18 Speaker 01 It's hard.
17:18 Speaker 04 You can't do it all.
17:19 Speaker 01 Well, you can't. You can't be funny, charming, and manage a schedule.
17:24 Speaker 04 That's what I say to him when he says to me, "I don't know about money." I say, "That's your problem. I'm the creator. That's not my problem," I told him. "That's what you're for." You're a balanced team.
17:31 Speaker 01 Right.
17:32 Speaker 04 Yeah.
17:32 Speaker 01 Right, Billy?
17:34 Speaker 04 What do you... You know what he does to me every morning?
17:35 Speaker 01 What?
17:35 Speaker 04 This is how I wake up and have coffee, and he wants me to be in a good mood. I wake up, I can't see. I'm not a morning person. He'll be like, "So, Alicia, today we gotta talk about the balances of what you've been spending. Do you wanna wake up to that?"
17:46 Speaker 01 Every morning?
17:47 Speaker 04 Almost every morning. Yeah, you go, "You're overspending. What have you been..." There's a lot of... There's a lot of boxes that came in last night, and I try hiding them.
17:56 Speaker 05 She announces to me and Selena, "I'm awake." And that is the cue for... Selena goes and grabs her cracker biscuits that she eats in the morning. And then I start her coffee. We make her coffee with cinnamon, and it's waiting for her.
18:08 Speaker 04 I do. I wake up.
18:09 Speaker 01 You live like a princess.
18:11 Speaker 04 Well, I do. For most of the time, I do. I am very fragile, so, yeah.
18:15 Speaker 01 No, but that's okay.
18:16 Speaker 04 I'm fragile.
18:16 Speaker 01 You should be protected. Yes. You need to be protected. Okay. When Rosie and Kelsey were fighting.
18:23 Speaker 04 Yes.
18:24 Speaker 01 Who did you agree with more?
18:26 Speaker 04 Rosie.
18:27 Speaker 01 Right.
18:28 Speaker 04 I love Rosie. I also love Kelsey, so it's hard for me. But Rosie's like one of my closer friends on the show.
18:32 Speaker 01 What Kelsey did was kinda mean.
18:33 Speaker 04 Right.
18:33 Speaker 01 It was, who cares about the square footage?
18:35 Speaker 04 I would never... So, my home is my safe place. Like, I would never want someone to make fun of that. And she was like showing her real home.
18:41 Speaker 01 Yeah.
18:42 Speaker 04 You know, and it's under construction, so give the girl a minute.
18:45 Speaker 01 God, what else happened this season? Oh, Rula's affair.
18:47 Speaker 04 I'll talk. Yeah, whatever you wanna ask, go for, 'cause I got... Please.
18:50 Speaker 01 Who was pushing the agenda of... Was it Joellen mostly?
18:53 Speaker 04 Joellen is like a detective.
18:55 Speaker 01 Really? Has she always been like this?
18:57 Speaker 04 Like, I don't remember her always being like this, but she's so good. It's scary.
19:02 Speaker 01 Did she go out of her way to like find out that he was having an affair?
19:05 Speaker 04 I don't think she went out of her way at the beginning. I think that it was very like, everyone knew about it, which I didn't, to be honest with you. That's the truth. But I think when like Rula was like, you know, "This is lying. This is AI Jones. Like, I am gonna prove you wrong. This man is cheating." And so, you know.
19:23 Speaker 01 Are they still together?
19:24 Speaker 04 Very... They are so happily in love.
19:27 Speaker 01 I mean, if it works for them, it works for them.
19:29 Speaker 04 Right, right.
19:29 Speaker 01 Right? At the end of the day, like, my mom always told me not to get involved with other people's relationships.
19:34 Speaker 04 I.
19:34 Speaker 01 Sometimes you're off to for TV, but.
19:36 Speaker 04 Right, and I feel the same way. If she's happy and she doesn't want to know anything, like, I'm just going to the beat of her drums.
19:41 Speaker 01 But how awkward did you feel at that dinner, though, knowing about the video?
19:44 Speaker 04 I liked Brian. To be honest with you guys, Brian is actually amazing. Besides the cheating part, like, he's fucking funny. The man is funny. Like, you cannot take that away from him. He is funny. Like, he's always saying something, you're like, oh, my god, like, you know, so it was hot. And I also see him, like, he was a great dad to both of his children. And I seen him in, like, in his home, taking care of Rula. So it was, yeah, it was awkward, because I, I did, I do see a good side to him.
20:10 Speaker 01 Right.
20:10 Speaker 04 You know?
20:11 Speaker 01 I, so the season finale is next week, which I have not seen yet. Does shit go down?
20:17 Speaker 04 Of course, always.
20:19 Speaker 01 But, like, does it go down like it went down at what's-his-face's Frank Sinatra night?
20:24 Speaker 04 No.
20:25 Speaker 01 Okay.
20:26 Speaker 04 No, not like that, but.
20:27 Speaker 01 That was bad.
20:28 Speaker 04 So bad. And I, like, and I, I gotta tell you, I love, I love Liz, and I think that's why I was, like, crying so hard. And I'm not used to crying, so that was, like, new to me, too, like that. So I was like, I just wanted it to end. Like, I just wanted her to be like, you made your point. I don't even care anymore at this point, because what does it mean to, like, what does it matter what you think? I know what happened. You know what I mean?
20:49 Speaker 01 Exactly.
20:50 Speaker 04 What does it matter?
20:50 Speaker 01 But would she not drop it?
20:51 Speaker 04 She wouldn't drop it. She wouldn't leave me alone about it. That's why Joellen was sticking up for me.
20:55 Speaker 01 Right.
20:55 Speaker 04 And she never left it alone even after that.
20:58 Speaker 01 Are Liz and Joellen on good terms or no?
21:00 Speaker 04 Not really, no.
21:01 Speaker 01 You guys are like my family. Every Monday, I sit down, I'm like, I text Amani, and I'm like,
21:07 Speaker 04 Really?
21:07 Speaker 01 Yes, you don't understand. And I, and I had a gut feeling. I said, I know this is gonna be good. I know this is gonna be good. They've all known each other since they were kids. Like, I know this is gonna be good. Every Monday, you on my screen, dinner. It is the best ritual of all time. It's the best show ever.
21:22 Speaker 04 Really?
21:22 Speaker 01 Yes.
21:23 Speaker 04 Is it because I think that we all, like, really, like, showed our true, like, who we are?
21:27 Speaker 01 You said that, you said your truth, you said, like, how you grew up, like, how you feel, you're, like, you showed your life. That's what reality television's about.
21:34 Speaker 04 Right.
21:35 Speaker 01 You know, it's reality.
21:36 Speaker 04 And I really did hate Billy in that minute, by the way, when I did flip out at him or whatever, I said something, but I love him, too. So, like, it shows that, like, in relationships, what I felt like was my thing, what helped us is that, you know, no one has a perfect relationship, and you're just gonna work through it if it's, like, strong enough, or if it's worth it, you know?
21:53 Speaker 01 Right.
21:53 Speaker 04 And I liked doing that with him. It helped us.
21:56 Speaker 01 Was Billy like initially apprehensive about doing the show?
21:59 Speaker 04 Well, he was like, why would you want to put your daughter on TV? Why would you want to like, people can judge you, you know, I obviously don't say a lot of the right words a lot. I mess up a lot. And if you do that for a mistake, the world might hate you, you know, and it's a mistake. So that part's scary, you know what I mean? Cause I don't always say the right thing, but I don't mean it intentionally. It's just a mistake, you know?
22:18 Speaker 01 Were you, was there anything specific that you said that you were like worried was gonna be taken the wrong way when you said it?
22:23 Speaker 04 I ran over a woman.
22:26 Speaker 04 Yes, I was like, oh, the world is gonna be like, it's over, but I-
22:30 Speaker 01 Can you tell me about that?
22:31 Speaker 04 She jumped in front of my car.
22:33 Speaker 01 Okay.
22:33 Speaker 04 And I was with my best friends and we were came from, I think I was driving slow and she dove in front of my car and I hit her. And she cracked my windshield and she got up and proceeded to run away. And I said, no, you can't, because I was thinking you could have a brain injury, you know?
22:50 Speaker 01 Oh my God, I would love a grinder. You guys make that here?
22:53 Speaker 04 That's the Italian grinder, but he wanted the hot honey.
22:55 Speaker 01 Oh my God, I'll do both. Oh my God, this, oh my God, Alicia, I love you. You feel like family to me.
22:59 Speaker 04 Yeah, no, I love food.
23:00 Speaker 01 I love food too. Okay, well, what do you, I gotta try the hot honey, right?
23:03 Speaker 04 You gotta try the hot honey.
23:05 Speaker 01 Oh, oh my God.
23:06 Speaker 04 The Italian grinder is my favorite food when I'm drinking. I don't know why, when I'm really, if I have like three drinks, I'm like right for that. It's the bread, it's the dressing, but that's, that's epic.
23:17 Speaker 01 You're lying.
23:18 Speaker 04 No, it's not.
23:19 Speaker 01 That, what?
23:20 Speaker 04 That's so good. Do you like that? So there's a cheese crust around it.
23:23 Speaker 01 Yo.
23:24 Speaker 04 It's light and airy. Did you, does anyone, is anyone from Detroit over here? I never had Detroit until, no.
23:30 Speaker 01 Oh my God, wait, I'm like actually-
23:34 Speaker 04 Yeah, it's so good.
23:35 Speaker 01 Yeah, I don't love pizza.
23:36 Speaker 04 You don't like pizza?
23:37 Speaker 01 Not really.
23:38 Speaker 04 What? What do you eat? Sushi?
23:44 Speaker 04 Am I good? I'm so psychic, by the way, FYI.
23:47 Speaker 01 I like sushi, Thai.
23:49 Speaker 04 Yeah, I knew it when you said you don't like pizza.
23:51 Speaker 01 I like pasta, though.
23:52 Speaker 04 Yeah, yeah.
23:53 Speaker 01 Oh my God, I can't stop eating. I'm like, my fat ass is just gonna be munching to the mic the whole time.
23:57 Speaker 04 That's how I, if you're at my house, I want you to eat, you know, whether we have Greek food or the Italian eat, wine, drink.
24:03 Speaker 01 You like Greek food? I love Greek food.
24:05 Speaker 04 Well, Billy's Greek.
24:06 Speaker 01 Oh.
24:06 Speaker 04 So he owns a lot of Greek restaurants.
24:08 Speaker 01 Oh, I didn't know that. Round two, we gotta go to the Greek room. Well, only if you have a steak in it.
24:11 Speaker 04 Yeah, no, that's his mothers and his dads and all that went together. Oh, that's all right. They don't care. But I, you know, you never know. But I like, I'd never really liked Greek food until I met him.
24:20 Speaker 01 Right. When did you guys meet? How'd you guys meet?
24:23 Speaker 04 He stalked me.
24:25 Speaker 01 What?
24:25 Speaker 04 He was persistent. I wasn't into him.
24:28 Speaker 01 Ah, obsessed.
24:30 Speaker 04 Yeah, no, but then I felt, I like a stalker.
24:32 Speaker 01 Really?
24:33 Speaker 04 Yeah, I like someone, I think I'm very shy that like if you have to fucking beat me down and be like,
24:38 Speaker 01 I want you.
24:39 Speaker 04 I want you, then I'm like, I fucking love you, then I'm a lifetime-er.
24:41 Speaker 01 Yeah.
24:42 Speaker 04 Then I'm not going.
24:42 Speaker 01 I think I'm kind of similar.
24:43 Speaker 04 Yeah.
24:44 Speaker 01 In terms of relationships, like romantic relationships, like you need to be like, I want you, we're doing this. Or else I'll just be stubborn.
24:50 Speaker 04 Yes, because it's like something, I don't, maybe it's my, I don't know what it is, but he had to lock it down.
24:55 Speaker 01 Probably, probably anxiety.
24:57 Speaker 04 Anxiety.
24:58 Speaker 01 I love how open you are about your anxiety. Do you think, like, when you go to bed, like, are you anxious every night?
25:03 Speaker 04 No, when I wake up, I'm anxious.
25:05 Speaker 01 God, at nighttime is when you're free.
25:06 Speaker 04 I'm so tired, I want to watch a show.
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27:05 Speaker 04 I'm obsessed with you.
27:06 Speaker 01 I love you down. I love you down.
27:10 Speaker 04 I'm dead. When you tell me that, I get so excited, why don't you jump and jacks or something?
27:13 Speaker 01 I literally jammed you being like, I need you in my life. Like, I need to start texting you. Can we start texting?
27:18 Speaker 04 Yes, please, I love to text.
27:19 Speaker 01 Do you play like the Wordle?
27:20 Speaker 04 Who? A Wordle?
27:24 Speaker 01 Never mind. Do you watch TikToks?
27:26 Speaker 04 I'm trying.
27:27 Speaker 01 Are you a real person?
27:28 Speaker 04 I do like voicemail, I don't like no technology. I do like voice notes.
27:32 Speaker 01 Okay, okay.
27:33 Speaker 04 That's what I'm good at.
27:34 Speaker 01 Right, right, right. I need to take a bite of this grinder.
27:37 Speaker 04 Yes.
27:38 Speaker 01 Do I just eat it as is?
27:39 Speaker 04 Yeah, you put it together and you just chop out it. Very Italian. Mmm. What the fuck? Yeah, so good. You got it, sir? Yes, of course. We have salads, we have desserts, we have a Nutella pizza.
27:52 Speaker 01 Yo. I'm not even, you can tell when I'm lying. Like, this food is fucking insane.
27:57 Speaker 04 It's cute, it's good.
27:58 Speaker 01 Italians made this food.
28:00 Speaker 04 They did.
28:01 Speaker 01 Well, Billy's Greek, so.
28:02 Speaker 04 Well, yeah. But, so the part of Greece that he's from is like right next to the part of Italy that I'm from, so it's wild, so it's like a boat ride away.
28:08 Speaker 01 Do you guys ever go?
28:09 Speaker 04 Yes, yes, to Greece, yes, please God, it's the worst. It's the biggest fight. We broke up about it many times.
28:18 Speaker 01 What?
28:18 Speaker 04 Yeah, he's obsessed.
28:20 Speaker 01 With going on vacation to Greece?
28:22 Speaker 04 He's obsessed. It's like, oh, I have to hear about it every single holiday, every time I'm happy, every time I'm sad, every family event. We have to talk about Greece.
28:31 Speaker 01 Like, what do you, go ahead, give me an example.
28:33 Speaker 04 Do you know anyone Greek? Wait, I'm like, we actually went to couples therapy about Greece.
28:37 Speaker 01 Wait, give me, give me an example. Give me an example. We're talking, we're talking, we're talking. Hi, hi Billy.
28:43 Speaker 04 You know, you know, I gotta go to Greece this summer, right? Well, Billy, I can't film the show. I gotta go to Greece. This is what I did all summer long. And my father, my brother, you know, we gotta go to Greece. My daughter needs to speak Greek. And my daughter needs to go. It's like all day. It could be Christmas, but in Greece, like, it's like Greece. It's like, yes, it is. It's all you do. And then he blasts Greeks' music, like Greek music in the car. And he smacks the windshield and he smacks this and it's just like, that's what Greeks do. And I get mortified and it's not hot.
29:11 Speaker 04 And you know it, Billy. And my daughter gets so ashamed. She does.
29:17 Speaker 01 So you don't like Greece?
29:19 Speaker 04 I like it. Like, I'm so happy I got to, like, do it and go. I don't need to go there every summer.
29:24 Speaker 01 You're not a vacation person, are you?
29:26 Speaker 04 I love vacation.
29:26 Speaker 01 Oh, you are? I thought you liked staying at home.
29:28 Speaker 04 I love being home too, though.
29:30 Speaker 01 Okay.
29:30 Speaker 04 Oh, no, I get FOMO when I'm not home.
29:32 Speaker 01 Okay, I get FOMO too. Like, all my friends are in Monaco right now. I kinda have FOMO.
29:36 Speaker 04 But like, you didn't go to Monaco?
29:38 Speaker 01 I went, but then I left.
29:39 Speaker 04 But aren't you happy to go and be like, I wanna go home?
29:41 Speaker 01 But you know what? I got to leave and I said, I literally said, I was like, you know what? Like, trust the higher power.
29:47 Speaker 04 Yeah.
29:47 Speaker 01 And then I went to the Knicks and I saw the biggest comeback in sports history.
29:50 Speaker 04 And it's like, thank you.
29:51 Speaker 01 Yeah, it's literally like, thank you.
29:53 Speaker 04 Because you don't need to be everywhere. You could just be close to home and have that experience.
29:57 Speaker 01 Exactly, exactly.
29:58 Speaker 04 Yeah.
29:58 Speaker 01 What's the best concert you've ever been to?
30:01 Speaker 04 It's Britney, bitch.
30:02 Speaker 01 You saw Britney?
30:03 Speaker 04 Yes.
30:04 Speaker 01 Which tour?
30:04 Speaker 04 When she was doing the circus tour.
30:06 Speaker 01 Oh, you saw, good.
30:07 Speaker 04 I know who else is really good, Beyonce.
30:10 Speaker 01 Wow.
30:11 Speaker 04 That's Beyonce.
30:11 Speaker 01 It's what tour did you see of Beyonce?
30:13 Speaker 04 Halo, right when Michael Jackson died.
30:14 Speaker 01 You saw the Sasha Fierce?
30:16 Speaker 04 No, right when Michael Jackson died, she sang that song Halo. And I remember just crying my eyes out because she was so beautiful onstage. She was like an angel.
30:24 Speaker 01 Uh huh.
30:24 Speaker 04 You know, and you can feel things. You know how you like, you might meet your favorite celeb and you might like have always loved them, but then you see them and you're like, you ain't shit.
30:31 Speaker 01 Yes.
30:31 Speaker 04 Or whatever, you don't want to go back. You know what I mean? And then you meet someone that you already thought, and they're like just glowing. That's how they both work.
30:37 Speaker 01 We were talking about Beyonce on the ride over today. We said she just glides.
30:40 Speaker 04 She was like an angel. I was like, she is like, like I felt it, like, you know?
30:46 Speaker 01 Right.
30:46 Speaker 04 Yeah.
30:47 Speaker 01 Okay, do you want to get into the tell me what's wrongs?
30:49 Speaker 04 Oh, I love a tell me what's wrong.
30:50 Speaker 01 This is where you give advice.
30:51 Speaker 04 Okay, I give you advice?
30:52 Speaker 01 No, you give the pussies advice.
30:53 Speaker 04 Okay, pussies. I love it.
30:56 Speaker 01 I just have another bite in my grinder because it isn't that good.
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33:54 Speaker 01 Have you burning questions from the Rhode Island fans?
33:56 Speaker 04 Are you hungry?
33:57 Speaker 06 Well, of course I'm hungry, but I feel like you need to like go to Greece with Angie Kay.
34:03 Speaker 04 So I met her.
34:04 Speaker 06 I feel like she will change your life about how you feel about Greece. See, you don't go to Italy either.
34:09 Speaker 04 I love Italy, but I like a city.
34:11 Speaker 06 Oh, fair.
34:12 Speaker 04 So I liked, I love Rome, I love Paris, I love London, but Greece, it's... She's got a lot of Greek haters. I love Greece so much! No, and I do, I just, I'm so happy I went.
34:24 Speaker 06 I feel like we can have a special of you and Angie Kay, like going to Greece and her changing her mind.
34:27 Speaker 01 Have you met Angie Kay?
34:28 Speaker 04 I did meet Angie Kay, I met her at the girls' trip, the, um, Ultimate Girls' Trip.
34:33 Speaker 01 You did Ultimate Girls' Trip?
34:34 Speaker 04 What did I do? Did I do that? I forgot what I did. It was like the all cast.
34:39 Speaker 01 The Bravo rep is shaking.
34:42 Speaker 04 Wait, what did I? Very calm. I think it was. It was like the one that like all the girls got together, they were traveling. And so it was like the grand finale.
34:51 Speaker 01 Uh huh.
34:52 Speaker 04 And Angie Kay was there and I was like, oh my God, I have to go up to you because you're Greek. And Billy loves being Greek. We hear about it all day long. And you, I do love Greece. You guys just went. And she was like, I love Greece. And she was beautiful and so nice.
35:03 Speaker 01 Gorgeous, gorgeous. High body count hair. Not on her.
35:06 Speaker 04 No.
35:07 Speaker 01 Do you watch any other Housewives shows?
35:09 Speaker 04 I used to love the old Jersey. I haven't watched the new one. I was obsessed with Jersey.
35:14 Speaker 01 People are saying that you guys are giving old Jersey.
35:16 Speaker 04 Oh, that, that gives me life because that's why I used to watch it. It reminded me of my family.
35:19 Speaker 01 Yeah.
35:20 Speaker 04 My aunt. So I felt like I was like in my kitchen or my dining room table, sitting with them. And I also love, um, Utah, Salt Lake.
35:26 Speaker 01 Yeah, best.
35:27 Speaker 04 Love, for sure.
35:29 Speaker 01 Was Kelsey's boyfriend or her old ex-boyfriend, the one that paid for everything?
35:33 Speaker 04 Yeah.
35:33 Speaker 01 Like, how did she get him to agree to filming in the house? I heard that maybe that wasn't his house.
35:39 Speaker 04 So I don't know. Me and her never talked about that. So that's the true story. I swear to God, I've never asked. Um, and I just kind of let her do her thing.
35:49 Speaker 01 Okay. And what's up with Rosie at the news station?
35:52 Speaker 04 She was the best newscast girl. She, everyone thought she was so hot.
35:56 Speaker 01 Wait, but so what, was it a thing in Rhode Island though at the time? Like, oh, Rosie's doing the news?
36:01 Speaker 04 I didn't watch the news then. So is that what you're talking about? I never watched the news.
36:06 Speaker 04 Didn't watch the news. So I didn't know who she was. Is that, is that what you mean?
36:09 Speaker 01 Kind, like I thought, like, was she like the talk of the town? That she was the news anchor?
36:12 Speaker 04 My, yeah, but I think what, like what she will say for Rosie, yeah, my stepdad thought she was beautiful. Like the older crowd, yes.
36:18 Speaker 01 Got it. And then why did she leave the job?
36:20 Speaker 04 She had colitis and she was bleeding through her ass. She said, which I almost died. I said, oh my God, girl, you are so real. I'd rather die than say that on TV, but that's why I love Rosie.
36:30 Speaker 01 But then didn't Kelsey say she lost the job because of an affair?
36:33 Speaker 04 That's not true.
36:34 Speaker 01 Not true?
36:35 Speaker 04 That's so not true.
36:36 Speaker 01 Okay, not true.
36:36 Speaker 04 No, promise. That's false. And I think that's why Rosie has such a hard time with her.
36:42 Speaker 01 Okay, right, cuz she's like, you're making shit. Why don't they get along? What do you think it is?
36:46 Speaker 04 Alright, so I think that Rosie's not originally from Rhode Island, and so like, we know, like, the people that are from Rhode Island, we know the whole background story of everyone. Like, I know Kelsey, I know everything about her, so like, the fact that we didn't know who Rosie was and her background story, and we were just going off of rumors, and I think that's what it was.
37:03 Speaker 01 Mean girl, a little.
37:04 Speaker 04 It was, it was more like a mean girl, but yet she was like, "I don't know your background story, and I'm trying to figure you out."
37:10 Speaker 01 Yeah, but you had Rosie's back.
37:12 Speaker 04 But Kelsey's actually sweet.
37:13 Speaker 01 She seems sweet.
37:14 Speaker 04 But to her and Rosie, they, they aren't sweet to get, like, they're not good together.
37:18 Speaker 01 Was the reunion, did things get nasty?
37:20 Speaker 04 They're just, they're always gonna be like, dit, dit, dit, you know, dit, dit, dit, you know? But I see Kelsey in a different light, but Rosie's, obviously, I'm very close to Rosie.
37:27 Speaker 01 Real, honest answer, what goes through your mind when Ashley cries?
37:31 Speaker 04 Like, good fe, I don't, I, I'm, I'm like, waiting for her. I feel like it's like, you know, it's like oxygen to like, breathing. It's like, okay, it's, it's a time, if she doesn't cry, I'm offended. If she cries, I'm a little offended, but if she doesn't cry, I'm offended, yeah. Yeah, I want her to cry, that's who she is.
37:46 Speaker 01 Oh, love that.
37:46 Speaker 04 Yeah.
37:47 Speaker 01 Have you been to Ashley's restaurant?
37:48 Speaker 04 Yes.
37:49 Speaker 01 Well, you've been, you went for trivia night, that I know.
37:51 Speaker 04 Right.
37:51 Speaker 01 But did you eat there?
37:52 Speaker 04 It's goo, it's good, it's great. Billy loves it, yeah.
37:56 Speaker 01 Billy?
37:57 Speaker 04 Yeah, yeah, he loves it. It's cute, it's, it's a vibe.
37:59 Speaker 01 Okay, as a restaurant owner, you think it's gonna stay open?
38:02 Speaker 05 Yeah, I think so.
38:03 Speaker 04 Oh, yeah.
38:03 Speaker 05 I think especially now.
38:04 Speaker 01 Right, right, especially now.
38:06 Speaker 05 Like, he's, he's vested.
38:08 Speaker 01 What is in this wine, oh, I finished the thing.
38:10 Speaker 04 Let's have more.
38:10 Speaker 01 That's what's going on.
38:11 Speaker 04 A pour, a repour.
38:12 Speaker 05 A repour, right away.
38:14 Speaker 01 A repour, fuck me. But the only way out is through, huh?
38:16 Speaker 04 I know, that's why you gotta keep going.
38:18 Speaker 01 Oh my god, I'm obsessed with you, I'm sick.
38:20 Speaker 04 I always called it the hair of a dragon, but I guess it was the hair of a dog.
38:23 Speaker 01 And it's summer, this summer is like giving, oh, thank you, Billy.
38:26 Speaker 04 Do you want, do you guys want pizza?
38:27 Speaker 01 Yes, they do.
38:28 Speaker 04 Have them, have pizza.
38:29 Speaker 01 They're starving, everyone's starving.
38:30 Speaker 04 Let's eat.
38:31 Speaker 01 Let's eat.
38:32 Speaker 04 Pizza for everyone.
38:33 Speaker 01 Oh my god. I... I can just tell that you have such a good soul.
38:38 Speaker 04 I do. No, I, I, I am very real, but I 1,000% too.
38:44 Speaker 01 You do, like, you like, you have so much love to give and it's such a joy to see on my television.
38:50 Speaker 04 So I feel like I've been through a lot.
38:53 Speaker 01 Yeah.
38:53 Speaker 04 And I also, animals love me, babies love me, and I, I was a hairstylist my whole life. I've talked to women and men about their problems.
39:00 Speaker 01 Right, okay.
39:01 Speaker 04 So I just like, I empathize with people. Like, I feel things. Some people can just like move on. I feel like people's.
39:07 Speaker 01 You're an empath.
39:08 Speaker 04 Yeah, and I understand it, and that's why I was like a flip-flop at the beginning, because like, I don't want to judge people.
39:14 Speaker 01 I didn't think you were a flip-flop. I actually didn't think you were a flip-flop. I thought you were just trying to see every.
39:18 Speaker 04 I was.
39:19 Speaker 01 Every side.
39:20 Speaker 04 Thank you for, yeah.
39:21 Speaker 01 No, but I really did. I was like, that, Joellen, flip-flop, because she.
39:24 Speaker 04 She is. She's the one that gave me the name. Love Joellen, Jo Melon.
39:28 Speaker 01 Love her, love her down, but she is a flip-flop, but you, you're not a, to be a flip-flop, you have to be calculated.
39:35 Speaker 04 I'm not.
39:36 Speaker 01 And you're just genuinely trying to understand everyone's POV.
39:39 Speaker 04 I wish I was more calculated to be on this show. I have no time. I'm 80-day. I can't even do homework. I can't balance a schedule.
39:46 Speaker 01 What homework?
39:47 Speaker 04 I just like, can't do any, like, I have homework. Like, if I was like, for the, like, for the business of this, but I wish, I envy that about Joellen.
39:53 Speaker 01 Wait, what, like, what would, like, homework, like, what would homework look like?
39:56 Speaker 04 For like, just like certain things, like, we have to do this, we have to do this. Like, I don't like homework. I don't like, I don't even like my daughter's homework. I get overwhelmed once she comes home.
40:03 Speaker 01 Is she asking for help?
40:04 Speaker 04 I'm not good, so she goes to him now.
40:06 Speaker 01 Do you help?
40:08 Speaker 04 Yeah, I don't do the homework no more. I'm not good at it, so.
40:10 Speaker 01 Right.
40:11 Speaker 04 Not my thing.
40:11 Speaker 01 Does she like school, Selena?
40:13 Speaker 04 Loves.
40:14 Speaker 01 Loves?
40:14 Speaker 04 Loves. She's the, she's my, she's my daughter.
40:17 Speaker 01 She's so, so, what was high school like for you in Rhode Island? What was it like? Like, what, like, would you go to Friday night football games, like?
40:22 Speaker 04 So you're gonna skeeve me, but I'm gonna be honest with you. I was very popular.
40:29 Speaker 04 No, I really was.
40:30 Speaker 01 Like, were you, had, had Queen B?
40:32 Speaker 04 I was just like, but like, in a genuine way, I was friends with everybody. I wasn't just friends with the popular girls. I was friends with, like, the, like, everybody. I was love all, I loved all groups. But I was like, I would have to hide. So like, if I went to the market, right, and I also have a very big family in Rhode Island.
40:48 Speaker 01 Right, right.
40:48 Speaker 04 So in high school, like, I couldn't get a, I couldn't smoke a cigarette, put it this way, because I would get caught. I couldn't cut classes. I would get caught. Everyone was always trying to protect me.
40:58 Speaker 01 So you've always been famous?
41:00 Speaker 04 Like, when I was young, Billy, what happens when I, I hide from people? Tell them. I hide.
41:05 Speaker 01 What do you mean you hide?
41:05 Speaker 04 Like, so like, we'd be at Garden City, I'd be like, oh god, like, and, and not, and I love people, but I also, you, you need your downtime.
41:12 Speaker 01 You need your downtime.
41:13 Speaker 04 So, yeah, like, people, yeah.
41:15 Speaker 01 When did the doll obsession begin?
41:17 Speaker 04 I've always loved dolls.
41:18 Speaker 01 Uh huh.
41:19 Speaker 04 Um, when I, if a doll's hair was out of place, I would smash it and throw it, as a kid, I think I had OCD, but no one knew about it.
41:27 Speaker 01 Oh, I have OCD.
41:28 Speaker 04 I think I do too.
41:30 Speaker 01 How does it manifest for you?
41:32 Speaker 04 Not well.
41:34 Speaker 04 Not well, bitch. No, no, it's bad, and it's the point where, like, I don't let my daughter play with her dolls as much upstairs, but now she is, I'm getting better. My house, my blanket, like, it, like, today, when I told you my daughter came here and she did never hear, like, I have, I like things, I don't know.
41:49 Speaker 01 Yeah.
41:50 Speaker 04 I don't know, I can't explain it, I like things groomed.
41:53 Speaker 01 Yeah, yes.
41:54 Speaker 04 You know?
41:54 Speaker 01 Okay, so these are the tell me what's wrongs, we give the pussies advice.
41:58 Speaker 04 Okay.
41:58 Speaker 01 Okay. My wedding is next summer, and my fiance and I, oh my god, you're gonna hate this one, are going to Greece.
42:05 Speaker 04 Okay. Why?
42:06 Speaker 01 For two weeks for their honeymoon.
42:08 Speaker 04 Okay.
42:10 Speaker 01 Oh, I kinda love the chaos.
42:12 Speaker 04 They're pissed.
42:13 Speaker 01 We have had this planned for months, one of my really close friends just said she wants to have her wedding a week after mine. I told her I'd be on my honeymoon and wouldn't be able to go to her wedding, and she said, yeah, like, I don't give a fuck vibes. What should I do? I'm really sad about it, but don't wanna seem selfish for being upset.
42:32 Speaker 04 Okay, so it's a week away, she told her about it, and her frie, is she more mad that her friends are more like, eh, no, I don't give a fuck?
42:38 Speaker 01 Yeah, that's what she's upset about.
42:39 Speaker 04 Alright, so I would be like, you know what, I'm so sorry, I would still give my peace, so I could sleep at night, and then, also, just enjoy your wedding, and let her focus on hers, and let them let you, girl, you know what I mean?
42:52 Speaker 01 Yeah.
42:52 Speaker 04 Yeah, because that's, you have to say your peace, or if it's gonna eat you up in life, like, it will eat you up alive, you know?
42:57 Speaker 01 Even if it's not. Right.
43:00 Speaker 04 Right.
43:00 Speaker 01 Right, like even if it's not right, like you feel how you feel.
43:03 Speaker 04 You feel how you feel, and if you don't feel right and you're like, I don't like the way this landed, I still want to tell you, I'm really upset, I can't go, but I need you, I don't want to, I want you to enjoy your running, I'm gonna enjoy mine.
43:13 Speaker 01 Do you think she should tell her, I'm upset that you don't seem to care?
43:16 Speaker 04 Yeah, I would be like, oh my god, how are you not sad, girl? Like, you're like, we're besties, I want to be there, I want you to be there, like, it bothers me, you know?
43:24 Speaker 01 Yeah.
43:25 Speaker 04 And maybe her friend doesn't know how to be emotional right now, maybe she's just like caught up.
43:28 Speaker 01 Right, right. And by the way, I just would like, ooh, Nolan, tell me what you think. Are you not, oh, I, we need to see the, we need to see their reactions.
43:35 Speaker 05 I'm so excited, oh my god.
43:37 Speaker 01 No, I, bitch, I told you.
43:39 Speaker 05 That is so incredible.
43:42 Speaker 01 I, it's like, actually, I-
43:43 Speaker 06 Insane.
43:44 Speaker 01 Insane.
43:45 Speaker 06 Insane.
43:45 Speaker 01 Like, you have a-
43:46 Speaker 06 Chicken bacon ranch used to be my favorite in college, got me through life.
43:50 Speaker 04 Where'd you go?
43:51 Speaker 06 I went to school in Ohio, really small school in Ohio.
43:53 Speaker 04 Okay, cuz that's like, that's one of his, okay.
43:55 Speaker 06 Yeah, and this is insane.
43:57 Speaker 04 Yes, that's like the No One Seller.
43:59 Speaker 06 Like, when I was drunk, this would save my life.
44:02 Speaker 04 Yes, girl.
44:03 Speaker 01 I really want you to know that you have-
44:04 Speaker 06 Pizza Mama needs to come to New York.
44:07 Speaker 01 No, it's so, you gotta go for the, you gotta go for the experience. I mean, I want success for you, so I do want it in New York. You should do a pop up, do a pop up.
44:14 Speaker 06 Do a pop up.
44:15 Speaker 01 Please.
44:16 Speaker 04 I would do a pop up. I want to do like a bigger restaurant with a bar, like a cute bar, you know what I mean? Like, I want to do it like cute.
44:22 Speaker 01 What would you call it?
44:23 Speaker 04 Pizza Mama.
44:24 Speaker 01 Oh, oh, you want to do like a bigger Pizza Mama?
44:26 Speaker 04 This was like the, this was like the express store, it was like the trial, cuz he didn't trust me.
44:30 Speaker 01 Right.
44:30 Speaker 04 You know what I mean?
44:31 Speaker 01 Well, Billy, do you trust her now?
44:33 Speaker 04 Look at what this is.
44:34 Speaker 05 I trust her ideas.
44:36 Speaker 01 Okay, good answer.
44:38 Speaker 05 But I, I really do, like, she, she gets it in a way that I don't and don't see it, but when, like, to run the business, we'll leave that on my side of things.
44:48 Speaker 04 Well, 1,000%.
44:49 Speaker 05 That's why, I know, but that's why it's a good team, like, she sees, I never, I thought this was crazy, and it, people love it.
44:55 Speaker 04 Yeah, and it's this big.
44:57 Speaker 01 Good food, good people, that's all that matters.
44:59 Speaker 05 This was supposed to be a quick thing, get it up and running, you know, it was a little different than what we usually do, and we were, I was just gonna sell it, like, it was gonna be a quick flipper, and she didn't like the name.
45:10 Speaker 04 So business, we're so not alike.
45:12 Speaker 01 Yeah, no, but that's right, why, you can't be so alike, girls, that's not the thing.
45:15 Speaker 04 No, I know, but see, your story is like a history teacher. I feel like, it's like very history.
45:21 Speaker 05 She makes me laugh.
45:22 Speaker 01 Do you just laugh all day with her?
45:24 Speaker 05 Most of the time.
45:25 Speaker 04 Yeah, he does. And then I get mad and then he laughs. I said, alright, I wasn't even being funny. I think you are a history teacher though.
45:32 Speaker 01 You like history? What's your favorite historical event?
45:35 Speaker 05 My favorite historical event? I mean, I love the story about the Peloponnesian War.
45:41 Speaker 04 So boring, so not my type.
45:43 Speaker 01 What?
45:43 Speaker 04 No, it doesn't matter.
45:44 Speaker 01 Yeah, I don't like history.
45:45 Speaker 04 Yeah, I don't either.
45:47 Speaker 04 He tells me history, I said, I can't be bothered.
45:49 Speaker 01 I also can't be bothered.
45:50 Speaker 04 Yeah.
45:51 Speaker 01 But I actually, I'm...
45:52 Speaker 04 Some of it I do.
45:53 Speaker 01 I'm good at, I used to do improvisation.
45:56 Speaker 04 Yeah.
45:56 Speaker 01 And I would like improvise historical skits.
45:59 Speaker 04 Yes. Like Romeo and Juliet.
46:03 Speaker 01 Yes.
46:03 Speaker 04 One thousand.
46:04 Speaker 01 Romeo and Juliet.
46:06 Speaker 04 Is that history? It should be, if it isn't. Is that poetry? Is that English? I don't know. Whatever.
46:12 Speaker 01 Blimey.
46:12 Speaker 04 No, I swear.
46:15 Speaker 01 You think Romeo and Juliet actually happened?
46:17 Speaker 04 I wish it did, it didn't.
46:20 Speaker 01 It's Shakespeare.
46:21 Speaker 04 He's a poet, but that's still like, I feel like it had to happen in history.
46:25 Speaker 01 He's like, is he a poet? I feel, now I'm like, is he?
46:28 Speaker 04 I don't know. Billy, that's where I was going.
46:31 Speaker 01 Billy! Is Shakespeare a poet, or is he just a writer, like a storyteller? Yeah, you're right, I knew you were right. I knew you were right.
46:38 Speaker 04 Alright, we don't need to get into the details, it's a quick quest.
46:43 Speaker 01 My boyfriend will not stop sending me Instagram reels. Like, one out of the 20 of them are funny or interesting, and it's becoming an ick that he's scrolling so much. I think, I think he may be a little down in the dumps, though, so I don't want to pile this on top. How do I be gentle about it, or should I just ignore it?
47:01 Speaker 04 I would ignore it. Billy does it to me all the time. I just, I actually feel bad when Billy does it. I'm like, oh, he must miss me. He's, maybe it's like a card that he should have sent me, or, yeah, no. I just, I just like, I don't even answer them. I put him on silent.
47:14 Speaker 01 You have Billy on, you have him on silent?
47:16 Speaker 04 Yeah, what is it called when you just?
47:17 Speaker 01 Do not disturb.
47:17 Speaker 04 Yeah.
47:18 Speaker 01 I get it.
47:19 Speaker 04 Yeah, I don't answer them. He says a thousand, so I get you, girl.
47:22 Speaker 01 Does your daughter have a cellphone?
47:23 Speaker 04 No.
47:24 Speaker 01 Good.
47:25 Speaker 04 iPad.
47:25 Speaker 01 Good, okay.
47:27 Speaker 04 On restriction.
47:28 Speaker 01 Good. I didn't have a cellphone until I was 12, 13, and I needed it to like go and like do stuff.
47:33 Speaker 04 I don't believe in it like too young.
47:35 Speaker 01 Yeah, I completely agree. She's gonna be a better person for it, by the way.
47:37 Speaker 04 Yeah, I agree.
47:38 Speaker 01 Yeah, I, it's, kids are getting way too young these days.
47:41 Speaker 04 It's like a drug for people, it's a drug for me.
47:43 Speaker 01 It's a drug for me.
47:44 Speaker 04 Yeah.
47:44 Speaker 01 When I get, do a post and I get likes, I'm literally like, it feels like I just worked out.
47:48 Speaker 04 It's, isn't that crazy?
47:50 Speaker 01 It's a literal drug. I feel like we're the guinea pigs for like that experience, you know what I mean?
47:55 Speaker 04 I miss, I miss like other stuff, you know, like I, I hate that I go through my phone. I didn't know how to use my phone before. I started for the show, by the way. I didn't even know, I didn't even know how to use Instagram. I didn't know how to take a picture, nothing.
48:06 Speaker 01 Well, now you have Owen.
48:07 Speaker 04 But now I'm, yes, now I have Owen that helps me so much, but I hate that I rely on people. Like, did I look good? To see on Instagram?
48:15 Speaker 01 You always look good, you always look good.
48:18 Speaker 04 But it's still hot, it's like I never rely on that.
48:20 Speaker 01 Do you feel like, is it weird perceiving yourself? Like, or watching others perceive you? Is that weird?
48:26 Speaker 04 It's weird because it's like, I don't ever want to stop talking about crackers. That's who I am. I eat them all the time, you know?
48:32 Speaker 01 But people love that, people responded well.
48:34 Speaker 04 People are gonna be like, oh, she's a stop talking about crackers, but I don't realize I'm talking about it. It's just my nervous, it helps me. It's like, instead of doing drugs, I do crackers.
48:41 Speaker 01 Right.
48:42 Speaker 04 You know?
48:43 Speaker 01 Would you ever just like not read the comments? Do you not read or do you just log off?
48:48 Speaker 04 I've been getting better.
48:49 Speaker 01 I think you just need to log off and be you.
48:52 Speaker 04 Yeah.
48:52 Speaker 01 And then good things will come, because they are.
48:54 Speaker 04 Yeah.
48:55 Speaker 01 Because you are her.
48:56 Speaker 04 Yeah, I wanna, I don't want to read the comments anymore. They take my phone. I almost fistfight, I tackled her this week.
49:02 Speaker 01 Good friends, by the way. Good friends.
49:04 Speaker 04 I literally tackled her. I was like, no, show me what she said about me.
49:07 Speaker 01 Lucky you have them. I have a money here. She calls me and she's like, did you see what they said about you?
49:13 Speaker 04 Yeah, no, but guess what? Sometimes it's like, you know, ignorance is bliss, and I've lived that way my whole life. So I think it is, if I want to stay the same, I think I have to like block out the noise.
49:22 Speaker 01 Right, right, right. I'm in law school and hate all of my peers. They're snobby, preppy, know-it-all assholes who dress bad and are probably gonna be sleazy lawyers. It sounds whatever, but it's genuinely making me rethink my career path and want to drop out. I want to do good things with this life, so how do I not let them win?
49:39 Speaker 04 Oh my god, girl, like who cares who they are? Be you, shine, and your light will be so bright. Let them lose, let them be the sleazy lawyers that they are, and you do you. Stay true to who you are.
49:49 Speaker 01 Done.
49:49 Speaker 04 And people will love that.
49:51 Speaker 01 You give really good advice.
49:52 Speaker 04 I don't. Do you think so?
49:54 Speaker 01 I think you do.
49:55 Speaker 04 Well, I was a hairstylist, I did it for years, FYI.
49:57 Speaker 01 Oh, what's the craziest story you heard when you were a hairstylist? What's the craziest one?
50:00 Speaker 04 I, you don't even know, I, they're who's up with who's husband, they were switching and swapping, and they both didn't think that they knew it, but I knew about it because they knew, but they weren't, it was a nightmare. No, it was a lot, I've always heard stories, and that's why I loved my job, because I loved, I like listening to people.
50:17 Speaker 01 When did you stop being a hairstylist?
50:18 Speaker 04 Like, maybe two months before the show started.
50:21 Speaker 01 Okay.
50:21 Speaker 04 Yeah.
50:22 Speaker 01 Would you ever go back, or you don't have time?
50:24 Speaker 04 No, I'm done, been there, done that, I did it since I was like 16.
50:28 Speaker 01 So, but now Kelsey is hairstylist?
50:29 Speaker 04 Yes.
50:31 Speaker 01 Is she booking clients?
50:33 Speaker 04 I don't know, I don't know, she, I don't, she, I think she might do weddings, but she's not like a, I don't know.
50:39 Speaker 01 Is her ex still paying for everything?
50:41 Speaker 04 I don't, I don't think so, I hope, I don't know.
50:44 Speaker 01 Did you know her ex?
50:45 Speaker 04 Um, I ran into him a few times.
50:48 Speaker 01 Was he hot?
50:49 Speaker 04 Yeah, he was like a good-looking, like, he was a catch back in the day, for sure.
50:52 Speaker 01 Oh, like, did you go to high school with him?
50:53 Speaker 04 No, no.
50:54 Speaker 01 Okay.
50:54 Speaker 04 He was just like, you know, I just think that, um, when you have that much money, you have like a aura to you.
50:59 Speaker 01 Oh, I kind of agree.
51:01 Speaker 04 Yeah, and that's what he had, you know?
51:02 Speaker 01 It's like big dick energy.
51:03 Speaker 04 Yes, BDE.
51:05 Speaker 01 BD, BDE. My partner is an actor and just landed a role in something. The issue is, while I'm super happy for him because of how competitive it is out there, he told me there are multiple sex scenes. He plays like the fuckboy. I'm sure it's all professional and good, and I haven't said anything about it, but it does genuinely bother me, and we've never talked about that or really thought about it, but now I'm uncomfortable. I want to support him, and I will, but how do I get over this in the meantime?
51:30 Speaker 04 Go out with your friends and take hot pictures with all different single people.
51:33 Speaker 01 I kind of agree. It's like, that's his job, too.
51:35 Speaker 04 Yeah.
51:36 Speaker 01 Like, you knew he's an actor. Like, you knew what you were signing up for.
51:38 Speaker 04 But that is tricky. I would have killed Billy, but I would be out every day of the week in my best outfits, working out, taking care of myself, so no bitch can compete.
51:46 Speaker 01 Oh, I haven't been able to work out in weeks because my wrist hurts so bad.
51:49 Speaker 04 What about your wrist?
51:49 Speaker 01 Tendonitis.
51:50 Speaker 04 Oh, why? How?
51:52 Speaker 01 I was doing pull-ups.
51:53 Speaker 04 Oh, no.
51:54 Speaker 01 I can do 12 in a row.
51:55 Speaker 04 You're so cute. I love you. I couldn't even do one.
51:57 Speaker 01 I couldn't do one, and then you start doing them, or you start doing it with a resistance band, and then you just work your way up? And you get there, but my wrist, look how swollen.
52:04 Speaker 04 You're gonna wrap it.
52:06 Speaker 01 I know, I've been wrapping it. I got acupuncture. I fell asleep with the acupuncturist. I fell asleep. There was like a heater over me. It was burning my head, and the whole thing knocked over.
52:13 Speaker 04 Oh, not, wow. Are you kidding?
52:14 Speaker 01 Swear. And he, I kept it, and he gave me like a little button to press for help, and the button fell out when I fell asleep, so I kept screaming, "Help, help, help."
52:22 Speaker 04 That place is scary.
52:23 Speaker 01 No, I mean, he clearly knew what he was doing. He put the last needle in, and I was out.
52:26 Speaker 04 Okay, good.
52:27 Speaker 01 No, oh my god, I'm going back tomorrow. I'm kind of hooked.
52:29 Speaker 04 All right, good. There you go. See? I love it. It's a party.
52:32 Speaker 01 Yeah, we'll go together. That's where you're in New York. You'll love it.
52:34 Speaker 04 Yeah.
52:35 Speaker 01 I have a really hard time becoming friends with my other friends' friends, if that makes sense. So, like, yeah, I got that.
52:41 Speaker 04 I get it.
52:41 Speaker 01 Like, I have my group, and when we party, they introduce me to all these people, and I swear I turn into a brick wall. Like, honestly, I just don't care, and I'm worried they think I'm rude for it. Do you think there's a balance between pleasant and honest, or do I just need to be fake?
52:54 Speaker 04 Fake it until you make it. Have a drink, loosen up, and don't think about it too much. Because when you think about it too much, you turn into a stone wall. Just have fun.
53:00 Speaker 01 Right.
53:01 Speaker 04 Vibes. You might have something in common, you know?
53:04 Speaker 01 Just start, so drink.
53:05 Speaker 04 Have a drink, like a half, even if you don't drink, have like a few sips. Everyone's friends after a few sips.
53:11 Speaker 01 That, that is very true.
53:12 Speaker 04 You know what I mean?
53:13 Speaker 01 When did you first start, like, when, what, how old were you when you had your first drink?
53:17 Speaker 04 Um, I think I was like 16, 17.
53:19 Speaker 01 Mm-mm.
53:20 Speaker 04 Yeah, I was like, I was like a very good girl, and I was, I had like a few, like, sips, and I was wasted. I'm still like a very much of a lightweight.
53:26 Speaker 01 Right, okay. Got it.
53:28 Speaker 04 Which I love.
53:29 Speaker 01 I mean, it's the best thing in the entire world.
53:30 Speaker 04 But I get hangovers very easily.
53:32 Speaker 01 Do lightweight, do lightweights get hangovers more than heavyweights?
53:36 Speaker 04 Yes.
53:37 Speaker 01 Okay.
53:38 Speaker 04 Because it sucks when people can like drink all night and then go out and work out the next day when I'm in bed. And they had 10 drinks, I had two, and I'm like in bed, like that pisses me off.
53:45 Speaker 01 Yeah, what's your hangovers look like?
53:47 Speaker 04 Oh, I'm terrible. I do the eye patches. Billy, Billy, you know. Billy, I can't get it, but yeah, Billy.
53:54 Speaker 01 Billy.
53:54 Speaker 04 Peppermint oil, Tylenol, liquid IV and T-Bone.
53:57 Speaker 01 Do you ever get an IV? Or do you not like needles?
53:59 Speaker 04 Oh, I love an IV.
54:00 Speaker 01 I love an IV. We are so similar.
54:02 Speaker 04 I love an IV, but I wish they came to my house when I had a hangover. I'm not driving.
54:05 Speaker 01 They could come to your house.
54:06 Speaker 04 I don't have a place that comes to my house here.
54:09 Speaker 01 This is prime opportunity for any IV person to go to Alicia's house and give her an IV.
54:14 Speaker 04 Please, and I also get tired all the time. I'm a fragile flower.
54:16 Speaker 01 Yes.
54:17 Speaker 04 My energy.
54:17 Speaker 01 Please help her.
54:18 Speaker 04 Yes, help me.
54:19 Speaker 01 She can't drive.
54:21 Speaker 04 I'm tired, I'm fragile, I get weak. Seriously.
54:27 Speaker 01 My roommates got a second cat without asking me. I was already generous with the first one. And they're like a couple, so my friend's boyfriend already had one when he moved in. But they came home the other day saying they found it on the street and decided to help it. Very sweet of them, but they got attached and want to keep it. I'm gonna kill myself. Please, what should I do?
54:43 Speaker 04 Oh my god. See, I love animals. Wrong question. Just, you know, you might like play with a cat. Pet her.
54:50 Speaker 01 What's your favorite animal?
54:51 Speaker 04 I love a dog, I love a pig, I love a horse.
54:53 Speaker 01 I love a fig.
54:54 Speaker 04 I love a fig.
54:55 Speaker 01 I just made that up.
54:56 Speaker 04 Yeah.
54:56 Speaker 01 On Cameo just now.
54:57 Speaker 04 That's what just happened, yeah.
54:58 Speaker 01 Wait, did you do, did you do that on purpose just now, or did?
55:01 Speaker 04 No, I, I literally love a dog, I love a pig. No, I did it by, I was on Cameo, but you know, I love all, I love all animals.
55:07 Speaker 01 You know your Cameo sounds so bomb viral.
55:08 Speaker 04 I had to get off.
55:09 Speaker 01 Why?
55:10 Speaker 04 Which I'm so sad about because...
55:12 Speaker 01 Bravo, Bravo said enough.
55:13 Speaker 04 No, it was just like getting to, I felt like I was trying to please everybody and I couldn't get them all out. And it was taking up too much of my day and I was getting headaches, so I was like, I need a break.
55:20 Speaker 01 You know what you do? You bring them back for like one day and one day only during Christmas, the holiday season when people are feeling sad.
55:26 Speaker 04 But I love them. I feel like it helps me.
55:29 Speaker 01 So why don't you just do, Owen?
55:30 Speaker 04 It's too much.
55:31 Speaker 01 Owen, can you help her get back on Cameo?
55:34 Speaker 04 Yeah, it was too much though. I was like wasting my day looking at my phone.
55:38 Speaker 01 You need to have someone make the cameo, put the phone away, watch TV.
55:41 Speaker 04 Yes, yes, yeah. So what a day maybe.
55:44 Speaker 01 What a day.
55:45 Speaker 04 What a week.
55:46 Speaker 01 So I've been completely in love with one of my closest friends for a while and she is giving such big signals. She's always dating or talking to some random guy, but she keeps telling me that she would much rather be dating a girl. She drunkenly pulled me aside at a bar to kiss me one night, but claims it was just silly fun. She's actually so evil. How do I move forward to something better?
56:04 Speaker 04 Um, go make out with another girl right in front of her and see how jealous she gets. If she doesn't get jealous, she doesn't give a shit.
56:10 Speaker 01 Yeah.
56:10 Speaker 04 Hello? Right?
56:11 Speaker 01 Yeah, you give great advice.
56:13 Speaker 04 Oh, because I've been there, done that with this all.
56:15 Speaker 01 Yeah.
56:15 Speaker 04 By the way.
56:16 Speaker 01 I've been really annoyed lately when people tell me I'm a really nice person. Growing up, I always thought it was a compliment. And I wanted to be known that way, but recently, as I navigate the back half of my twenties, I'm realizing I just might be coming across as a pushover and I have no backbone. I will always be a good friend and person to the people I love, but I don't want to be a doormat. What's your advice to change my narrative?
56:36 Speaker 04 First of all, being nice, there's nothing wrong with being nice.
56:38 Speaker 01 That's what I think too.
56:39 Speaker 04 You know what I mean? And if people have a problem with that, like that's their problem. Let them go hang out with all the devils and the assholes and then see where... They're gonna always want to go back to the nice person.
56:46 Speaker 01 Right.
56:47 Speaker 04 So they didn't live enough.
56:48 Speaker 01 Exactly.
56:49 Speaker 04 Tell them that's, they didn't live enough.
56:50 Speaker 01 Is Dolores gonna be filming more next season or no?
56:53 Speaker 04 I don't know. I hope so. I do like her. I do.
56:56 Speaker 01 Do you know, she, cause how long have you known Dolores?
56:59 Speaker 04 I only met her, um, when she set a film with us.
57:01 Speaker 01 Okay.
57:02 Speaker 04 But I watched the show and she was always one of my favorite housewives.
57:05 Speaker 01 Yeah, yeah. She was on New Jersey, right?
57:06 Speaker 04 Yes, and I love Jersey, so.
57:08 Speaker 01 I was a big Salt Lake, Beverly Hills, and I just got, kinda got through like a few seasons of New York.
57:13 Speaker 04 Yeah, I never watched New York. I need to.
57:16 Speaker 01 I, it's, it's great.
57:17 Speaker 04 Yeah.
57:17 Speaker 01 Scary Island is great, but it's just, I think, at the time, do you know what I'm talking about, Scary Island?
57:22 Speaker 04 No.
57:23 Speaker 01 Okay, so they all went on a girl's trip, like Bethenny Frankel and them, and like, um, Kelly Ben Simone, like, like went to like psychosis.
57:30 Speaker 04 Oh, really?
57:30 Speaker 01 Yeah, like.
57:31 Speaker 04 Really?
57:32 Speaker 01 Yeah.
57:32 Speaker 04 Oh, all right. I gotta watch this, Scary Island?
57:34 Speaker 01 Yeah, but it's like, for now, like that's the, an episode of Rhode Island, you know?
57:38 Speaker 04 Yeah, yeah.
57:39 Speaker 01 But now it's like, at the time, it was so major. Am I explaining this right? Yeah.
57:44 Speaker 04 I need to watch Scary Island.
57:46 Speaker 01 Did you ever watch Bad Girls Club?
57:47 Speaker 04 No.
57:48 Speaker 01 America's Next Top Model?
57:50 Speaker 04 No, a little bit I've watched it.
57:52 Speaker 01 Okay, okay. Those were my reality shows back in the day, for you.
57:55 Speaker 04 Okay.
57:56 Speaker 01 Car troubles follow me like a damn shadow. I cannot catch a break where it's almost like every other month, something is wrong with my car. I'm convinced that I have like actual voodoo bad luck. I know you can't help with that, but what are ways I can keep my cool? I always lose it every time something like this happens, and I'm tired.
58:12 Speaker 04 Oh my god, girl, I feel you. Girl, oh boy, I feel you. I get it, especially with your car. You're like, I'm so tired, it's so much money. I'm putting, it's like a money pit. You wanna know what? Just keep going. It'll come back and move on.
58:24 Speaker 01 Yeah.
58:25 Speaker 04 Like, let it go.
58:26 Speaker 01 What do you mean?
58:26 Speaker 04 Just keep going. Let the car fucking run itself into the ground.
58:29 Speaker 01 Yeah, like, so, push it down.
58:31 Speaker 04 Push it down and let it keep going.
58:33 Speaker 01 Until it all explodes.
58:34 Speaker 04 Something's gonna come good out of it, you know? There'll be a good part of it.
58:38 Speaker 01 Has that ever happened where you've pushed something down and then something good happened?
58:40 Speaker 04 Yes, it's crazy. That's why I said that.
58:43 Speaker 01 Like what?
58:44 Speaker 04 Just like, so many accidents and this and that, and then all of a sudden, it's like, a good thing happens. And you're like, you know what, this is why I went through hell. It's wild, I know it's crazy, but like, literally, it happens. It happens.
58:56 Speaker 01 I love the way you live life.
58:57 Speaker 04 I'm trying to live.
58:59 Speaker 01 You're living.
59:00 Speaker 04 I'm living.
59:01 Speaker 01 Have you ever been to Vegas?
59:02 Speaker 04 Yes.
59:03 Speaker 01 I would love to go to Vegas with you.
59:04 Speaker 04 I love Vegas.
59:05 Speaker 01 How long can you stay there, though?
59:07 Speaker 04 Three days, four days. I love to shop and I like the shows, you know?
59:10 Speaker 01 Uh huh.
59:10 Speaker 04 I love a nightclub.
59:11 Speaker 01 I love to shop.
59:12 Speaker 04 Yes.
59:12 Speaker 01 Shopping's the best. Retail therapy is real.
59:15 Speaker 04 That's real.
59:15 Speaker 01 It's real.
59:16 Speaker 04 That's really healing.
59:16 Speaker 01 That's real to me.
59:17 Speaker 04 Me too.
59:18 Speaker 01 Yeah.
59:18 Speaker 04 It is.
59:19 Speaker 01 Hey Jake, this girl that lives in the door across from ours, keeps asking to get ready and go to parties and events with me, and my best friend. We are barely friends with her, but I feel so bad saying no. It honestly impacts our environment every time because it's awkward and we have to make a lot of conversation. So you're meeting a new person. How do we solve this without being mean to her? You don't. You just hang out with the girl.
59:37 Speaker 04 Just like, go, leave the room, and never let her see you. I would take off anytime.
59:41 Speaker 01 Oh, you wouldn't hang out with her?
59:43 Speaker 04 Oh, was she, like?
59:43 Speaker 01 They're like, I feel bad, this girl clearly doesn't have many friends.
59:46 Speaker 04 Oh, just go. Go for an hour and then take off, so you feel the bad, but you don't feel good, but go.
59:50 Speaker 01 Yeah, right? Like, it probably makes her day, every night.
59:53 Speaker 04 Yeah, go, yes.
59:55 Speaker 01 My boyfriend was blacked out on a night out and literally got arrested for assaulting an officer. This is so incredibly out of character for him, as he pretty much never drinks. He handled it well and paid his own bail. Good, well, I'm glad. We've been together almost a year. Is this a red flag or a one-off incident?
1:00:10 Speaker 04 Oh, um, I mean, I would consider it a red flag, but give him another try. You never know. Red flag, though. It's an assault an officer. What do you think? That's a big deal.
1:00:21 Speaker 01 Probably, probably, but maybe he was just drunk.
1:00:23 Speaker 04 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just keep the alcohol away from him.
1:00:26 Speaker 01 Yeah, maybe he's bad with alcohol.
1:00:28 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:00:28 Speaker 01 Well, Alicia, what did we learn today?
1:00:31 Speaker 04 Um, I learned so much about different people, but I also learned that you've never had a grinder. You didn't know what a grinder was. You got to have a pizza chip.
1:00:37 Speaker 01 I'm about to house this the second we're done.
1:00:40 Speaker 04 And I think you're so incredible, and I'm so happy that you love The Housewives of Rhode Island.
1:00:44 Speaker 01 It is the best show on television. If you haven't seen it, watch it.
1:00:48 Speaker 04 I won't watch it, so that's why.
1:00:49 Speaker 01 Right, right. Good. You shouldn't. Well, you probably actually should.
1:00:52 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:00:53 Speaker 01 Right? Because for the reunion, don't you have to, like, prep?
1:00:55 Speaker 04 Yes, yeah, I had to do that.
1:00:56 Speaker 01 Yeah.
1:00:57 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:00:57 Speaker 01 Yeah.
1:00:58 Speaker 04 Nah.
1:00:58 Speaker 01 Yeah. You sat right next to Andy, though, I saw.
1:01:01 Speaker 04 I did. I like Andy a lot.
1:01:03 Speaker 01 I love Andy. He's awesome.
1:01:04 Speaker 04 I was, like, so nervous when I first met him. I was like, oh, my God. Like, I was, like, starstruck. And then I was like, he's so nice. I loved him.
1:01:11 Speaker 01 Yeah, he's awesome.
1:01:12 Speaker 04 Yeah. Bye pussies. I love you all. Thank you for being a pussy.
1:01:29 Speaker 01 I have to call someone. I have to call Manny.
1:01:31 Speaker 04 Who's Manny?
1:01:33 Speaker 01 FaceTime Manny.
1:01:34 Speaker 00 Is this about me?
1:01:36 Speaker 04 Hi. Where are you? Why aren't you here? Why aren't you here?
1:01:41 Speaker 00 Hi.
1:01:42 Speaker 04 We have pizza chips.
1:01:44 Speaker 00 My grandma is listening. I'm literally on my way to go get her lunch.
1:01:47 Speaker 04 Oh, my God, you're so cute. I love that you love your grandma. You're so cute.
1:01:52 Speaker 00 I love my grandma, but I also love you.
1:01:56 Speaker 04 I'll meet you one time. We have to meet.
1:01:58 Speaker 00 I'm so sad.
1:01:59 Speaker 04 No. What kind of dog?
1:02:03 Speaker 00 Oh, why are you talking to my dog?
1:02:04 Speaker 04 Because I love dogs. No, you don't know what I am like with dogs. I'll go to, I will die. What kind of dog? I'm so sorry.
1:02:12 Speaker 00 It's okay. It was a Chihuahua, Italian Greyhound mix.
1:02:15 Speaker 04 That's my dog, Wolfie. Why are you doing this? Billy, a Chihuahua. That's my dog. I am so sorry. I live for that dog. Don't do this to me, Wolfie. What was your dog's name? I'm so sorry. How old?
1:02:28 Speaker 01 He was 15.
1:02:29 Speaker 04 Oh, 15's a good age, though. Alright, I feel, I feel, how, okay.
1:02:32 Speaker 00 He was 16.
1:02:34 Speaker 01 Oh, 16. So we lived a good life. Okay, Manny, well, we love you.
1:02:37 Speaker 04 Manny, we love you. Sorry about that dog.
1:02:39 Speaker 00 I love you both.
1:02:41 Speaker 01 Love you, Manny.
1:02:42 Speaker 00 Thank you so much.
1:02:43 Speaker 04 Bye.
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