Session 102: Rachel Sennott

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• 0:01Speaker 00

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• 0:40Speaker 01

  Hi pussies, welcome back to Therapists. Tonight we have on actress, writer, director, creator Rachel Sennott. She has written and created the new HBO series I Love LA, which I had the privilege of seeing a few episodes of already and it is incredible. She is incredible. The whole cast is incredible. I'm so excited for you guys to see it. And I have loved her ever since I saw her in Bodies Bodies Bodies, which is really one of my favorite movies ever. I just think she's great and I'm so happy that I got the chance to talk to her. And I'm so excited for you guys to get to know her more if you don't already. As always, just admit, tell me what's wrong. Go to passthatpuss.com and leave a name and number if you're feeling fancy. Okay, enjoy the episode. Love you pussies.

• 1:23Speaker 01

  You ready?

• 1:24Speaker 02

  I'm ready, sorry.

• 1:25Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:25Speaker 02

  I'm already.

• 1:26Speaker 01

  I'm so excited. I feel like we're kind of like soul sisters.

• 1:29Speaker 02

  No, I knew it was gonna be this way.

• 1:31Speaker 01

  Ever since I saw you in Bodies Bodies Bodies, which is by the way, my mother's favorite movie of all time.

• 1:37Speaker 02

  Your mother's?

• 1:37Speaker 01

  My mom called me and she goes, have you ever seen Bodies Bodies Bodies? And I go, yes.

• 1:43Speaker 02

  Oh my god.

• 1:44Speaker 01

  It's just the best movie I've ever seen.

• 1:46Speaker 02

  I love that.

• 1:47Speaker 01

  It's the best movie. You're from the tri-state area.

• 1:49Speaker 02

  I'm tri-state area baby.

• 1:50Speaker 01

  I'm tri-state area too.

• 1:51Speaker 02

  Love. That's probably why we just.

• 1:54Speaker 01

  It's a talking thing.

• 1:55Speaker 02

  It's a talking thing. Well, we're at this pace, which to other people is sometimes a lot, sometimes too much. I'm like, we're going. We have to, we have to talk this fast.

• 2:07Speaker 01

  What else is there to do?

• 2:09Speaker 02

  What else is there to do? I think also it's like, if you, if we're going at this pace on the East Coast, it's normal. If you're going at this pace in LA, everyone's like. Whoa.

• 2:22Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:22Speaker 02

  Slow down.

• 2:23Speaker 01

  Slow it.

• 2:23Speaker 02

  I'm like, we're being normal.

• 2:25Speaker 01

  I, but it's weird because maybe that's why I love L.A. so much.

• 2:31Speaker 02

  Where's my camera to look? Oh, ah, yeah, yeah.

• 2:35Speaker 01

  Because I feel so different.

• 2:36Speaker 02

  Yes, I love that too.

• 2:38Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:38Speaker 02

  And I feel like you can get, you can basically like, you can use your east coast mentality on the west coast and like fly, you know? Versus sometimes I feel like the east coast, already an anxious person, already like, already have all my like problems. And I'm like, being sometimes on the east coast, it like exacerbates it. And I'm like, they're like, do this more, double down.

• 3:06Speaker 01

  Right.

• 3:07Speaker 02

  Faster, louder, crazier, feel worse. And then here, everyone's like, chill out. And so it's like, it takes the edge off a little, but me with the edge taken off is still like other people at their worst.

• 3:20Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 3:21Speaker 02

  If that makes sense.

• 3:22Speaker 01

  I couldn't agree more.

• 3:23Speaker 02

  You know?

• 3:23Speaker 01

  And also I feel like what I love about L.A. so much is that, and this is toxic of me, but like in New York, like you know what everyone's thinking about you because they'll tell you.

• 3:33Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 3:34Speaker 01

  I don't want to know.

• 3:35Speaker 02

  I don't want to know.

• 3:35Speaker 01

  I don't want to know.

• 3:36Speaker 02

  Lie to my face.

• 3:37Speaker 01

  Lie and talk about it behind my back.

• 3:39Speaker 02

  Talk about, exactly.

• 3:40Speaker 01

  Please.

• 3:40Speaker 02

  By the way, I say this all the time, I'm like, I know people are talking shit about me.

• 3:43Speaker 01

  Always.

• 3:44Speaker 02

  It's okay.

• 3:45Speaker 01

  It's okay. I talk shit about people all the time.

• 3:47Speaker 02

  And by the way, I don't mean it. I don't, sometimes I do. But I, a lot of times when I'm talking shit, I'm like, this is just like, this is nothing.

• 3:57Speaker 01

  It's just words.

• 3:58Speaker 02

  It's just words. I was just going to say it. I, it's, I'm letting it go. You know what I mean?

• 4:04Speaker 01

  I, talking shit to me feels like I have to do it.

• 4:08Speaker 02

  I have to.

• 4:09Speaker 01

  It's like working out, like I have to, it has to leave my mouth.

• 4:14Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 4:14Speaker 01

  Or else like I'll explode.

• 4:15Speaker 02

  It's part of community building.

• 4:17Speaker 01

  I agree.

• 4:18Speaker 02

  It's totally important. I think also it's like, there, there, something I learned in L.A. is that like,

• 4:27Speaker 02

  Talking shit isn't that serious. Do you know what I mean?

• 4:29Speaker 01

  It never is.

• 4:30Speaker 02

  It never is. It can be fun. It can be lighthearted. I remember when I first, I had like a dinner at my house, like early on in LA. And it was like a group of friends and they were all like talking shit and I was like, I, my lips are sealed. I have nothing to say. And everyone was like, just say like one thing about someone, anyone. And I was like, um, um, um, and I couldn't. And I was like, I, I, I'm taking myself too seriously.

• 5:01Speaker 01

  Mine is like, I don't even remember what I was shit talking yesterday. So like, it's never that serious.

• 5:05Speaker 02

  No, it's never that serious.

• 5:06Speaker 01

  But if I catch you,

• 5:09Speaker 01

  it's serious.

• 5:10Speaker 02

  It's serious. It's serious. But I think, I think it's like, I think like sometimes also like shit talking is like literally just like saying very like basic details to other people.

• 5:24Speaker 01

  She cut her hair.

• 5:25Speaker 02

  Yeah, no, literally. I'm like, I'm like, I need people talking about how I got highlights.

• 5:30Speaker 01

  They look really good. And you know, I noticed.

• 5:33Speaker 02

  You did.

• 5:33Speaker 01

  Well, because I was watching the show yesterday and then I've noticed it now. Your hair looks lighter.

• 5:38Speaker 02

  So I first thought I was gonna just not tell people that I got highlights, never gotten anything done before. And I was just gonna try to like, put it off as like, ah, it's summer in the sun.

• 5:48Speaker 01

  Of course.

• 5:48Speaker 02

  But it's like, it's like, I want someone going around like, she got highlights. Like saying it like that, like, yeah, something's really going on. And it's like, something is, by the way. It's like, I'm freaking out. But I, I, I, that's like, that's shit talking to me is like, is like describing things of like, she's really changing up her style, like that kind of stuff. Yeah.

• 6:10Speaker 01

  Basic details of life said in an off putting tone.

• 6:13Speaker 02

  Yes, yes, yes.

• 6:15Speaker 01

  And you don't mean it.

• 6:16Speaker 02

  And you don't mean it and it goes away.

• 6:17Speaker 01

  Are you like anxious about the, like putting out your first show?

• 6:22Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 6:22Speaker 01

  Well, it's not your first show. You have shows on Comedy Central.

• 6:25Speaker 02

  It's my, oh yeah, that's true. That's true. I think it's the first. Thing that I'm doing that is like, it's very vulnerable for sure. And I had like a, I've been going through a journey the past week because basically like the schedule was so intense where I, I didn't have time to be with my feelings ever on any day. It was like, we were writing the show and then while we were still writing the show, we started prepping it and then we were shooting it and we were still rewriting it. And then I directed an episode, we prepped that, we wrapped in New York and then I flew back to LA and I was like editing the next day.

• 7:09Speaker 01

  You were personally, or you were in the room?

• 7:12Speaker 02

  I was editing, yes. I wasn't like clicking the buttons, but I'm sitting there. I'm sitting there watching and going like, can you play that again?

• 7:20Speaker 01

  Right.

• 7:20Speaker 02

  Is there anything different?

• 7:21Speaker 01

  All hands on deck.

• 7:22Speaker 02

  I'm all hands on deck.

• 7:23Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 7:23Speaker 02

  Show, running.

• 7:25Speaker 01

  Right.

• 7:25Speaker 02

  A made up job that they just invented. That's really hard.

• 7:27Speaker 01

  Created by?

• 7:28Speaker 02

  Created by.

• 7:32Speaker 02

  It's scary. It's scary. And I just never had, and we were editing on the weekends when we were shooting, like it was so intense. And so, and I kept being like, I can't feel anything. Like I couldn't cry. Like I used to be someone who cried all the time. I was like, I can't cry. I'm not, I'm, I'm.

• 7:48Speaker 01

  Cancer?

• 7:49Speaker 02

  I'm, I'm, no, Cancer Moon. Cancer Moon, Virgo, Scorpio rising, but wet.

• 7:55Speaker 01

  Water. You're wet.

• 7:56Speaker 02

  Wet. Wet, wet, wet, wet. And I, it's, I was just like, I can't feel anything, whatever. But I know I'm really proud of the show. Then we like dropped the trailer and for the first time I had like, not even a day off, like a morning off. And I sat in my house and I was like, what's happening? And then I got really scared. And then I was like, I, all of a sudden I got scared and vulnerable. And then I was like, wait, do people know who the real me, blah, blah, blah? Is everyone gonna hate me, whatever? And then I had a little bit more time, basically like, I feel like I like, do you know when you push everything down? Cause you don't have, yes.

• 8:39Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 8:40Speaker 02

  And then you have like a moment to like, open the valve or whatever.

• 8:45Speaker 01

  Never mind.

• 8:46Speaker 02

  Never mind, literally close it. And then like, I, I started to have like, a little bit of free time. And then I'm like, sitting in my house and then I'm like, crying really hard, all of a sudden manic high, then like, super horny, alone in my kitchen at like 2pm. And I'm like, I should gotta go jerk off. Like, it's so, it's like, but I think it's like this like backlog of feelings and emotions. But, all to say, I am excited and I'm proud of what I made. And I'm like, I know it's gonna find the right people.

• 9:25Speaker 01

  It absolutely will. I loved it. I'm on episode four.

• 9:28Speaker 02

  Oh my God, did you get, so you got one through four?

• 9:31Speaker 01

  I got one through five.

• 9:32Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 9:32Speaker 01

  So, no, I got one through four initially, and then I checked my email two days ago and it was like,

• 9:37Speaker 02

  We followed up with five.

• 9:38Speaker 01

  Yeah, we followed up with five and I was like, okay, okay. True is amazing.

• 9:42Speaker 02

  True is amazing. Literally Claire and I were just in the car being like, she is a goddamn genius.

• 9:48Speaker 01

  I love true.

• 9:49Speaker 02

  She is so fucking funny.

• 9:51Speaker 01

  She, she has a really good timing. But so does everybody in the show. How did you like, pick the cast? Like, how did that casting come about?

• 9:59Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 10:00Speaker 01

  Besides, like, obviously auditions.

• 10:01Speaker 02

  Yes. I, so, I mean, I just want to speak on true first, cause you brought her up. Like, I think, like, what's so special about her is she has her own comedic timing. And she has this thing where it's like, do you know when there's like a line on the, on a page, like, for an actor that's like, hey, how are you? Or whatever. And in your head, there's like, the obvious way that everyone says it. And then there's actors that are like, like, obviously, like, Meryl Streep, she's like, hey, how are you? And you're like, God damn it, that was fucking genius. Like whatever, like, I'm, I should have said it like that. Like, I feel like True has comedic timing.

• 10:42Speaker 01

  Right.

• 10:42Speaker 02

  Um, I'm like, she's Meryl Streep. She, but she has, she, I, I think she's comedic timing where she, she does it in like her own way where I'm like, I never could have come up with that. And, but it's the funniest way.

• 10:57Speaker 01

  Right, of course.

• 10:58Speaker 02

  And so basically, we, we did auditions and it was like a long audition process where it was like auditions, callbacks, and then camera tests. And I'm an actor too, and I know how much auditions fucking suck. I literally was apologizing to everyone the entire time.

• 11:21Speaker 01

  Oh, did you have like people in L A being like, ha, like I sent him my thing, like?

• 11:25Speaker 02

  Yes, and I had, and I had like friends doing callbacks with me. And I was like, this is torture for me because I, I know what it's like. And it's like, it's a pain in the ass. You know what I mean? It's like you have a callback at 2 P M. Your whole morning is ruined. You're just sitting there like this, waiting to do the thing. You log onto Zoom, you talk to people for 15 minutes, you log off and then you're like, who am I?

• 11:54Speaker 01

  Did that suck?

• 11:55Speaker 02

  Did that suck? Like, do you, do you like, do you hate auditioning?

• 11:59Speaker 01

  I, okay, so I, it depends. So if like, I, I, I don't, I like doing self tapes and then I'm like, I hate never, because you never hear back. You find out, like, you'll open Instagram and like someone posts a deadline thing. It's like, oh, well, there it goes.

• 12:16Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 12:17Speaker 01

  Yeah. Like, you know what I mean?

• 12:18Speaker 02

  Yes, it's, it's, it's just brutal.

• 12:21Speaker 01

  Do you remember like the thing, like, do you, have you ever lost a role that you're like, I, you, I was convinced I'm getting it and it was like the worst feeling in the entire world?

• 12:32Speaker 02

  Yes, for something I auditioned for when I was still in college.

• 12:37Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 12:38Speaker 02

  And I just like, in my head, I think it was like the first grown up audition that I had gotten. And I, I rehearsed it like every single day. And then I went in and the casting director was like, he was like, that was really good. And like, super positive to me. Later on, I learned they were just like nice to everyone.

• 13:02Speaker 01

  Bring back being mean, because I want to, I keep getting my hopes up. They're like, you're amazing.

• 13:08Speaker 02

  You're amazing. I know.

• 13:09Speaker 01

  We're never gonna talk to you again.

• 13:10Speaker 02

  I, and I left and I was like, I, I remember I like bought myself like a nice lunch. I was like, huh, I booked it. And then I was like, never heard. It was, and it was a small role too, but I just felt I, it was like my, it was like I, I felt really good. And then, and then reality hit me.

• 13:29Speaker 01

  Did you start, well, you, okay, did you, were you always into acting and then comedy came later? Cause you said that you got into comedy via like an open mic night, right? On a date?

• 13:40Speaker 02

  Yes. I always leaned towards comedy, like in terms of stuff, like I loved acting and performing. And I always leaned towards like funny stuff. And then I went to NYU acting. And the program I was in was very like serious. And I was like, I am not doing Shakespeare right or whatever, like they, and it felt a little bit like the program was sort of like about like, basically like smoothing everybody out and sort of like, like we're all doing the same Shakespeare model the same way. And I was like, well, then I can't, I, I'm not good at that.

• 14:20Speaker 02

  And so I started looking for, and I never got cast in any of the school plays. Like I didn't, there were all these like, school opportunities that I didn't get, that I tried for, that I didn't get. Um, and then I just started looking for, and I, I tried out for the school improv and the sketch groups, didn't get into those. So I just started looking for other opportunities. And that's how I found stand up. That's how I did like all the student films. That's how I like started writing stuff. Um.

• 14:53Speaker 02

  But comedy was always, I think, the instinct for me. Yeah.

• 14:57Speaker 01

  And did you end up, and you started doing just open mic nights after you, like, is that where you, like, really started to, because you said you didn't get into like, school stuff, but did you, where, where did you start like, practicing outside of school?

• 15:10Speaker 02

  I, it was, it was definitely open mics. I like, was, I had gone on like, a couple of dates with a guy who also went to college with me, who was like, you should do stand up with me. And he like, took me to like, an open mic. And that was my first open mic.

• 15:27Speaker 01

  And you just got up and did it?

• 15:28Speaker 02

  I just got up and did it.

• 15:29Speaker 01

  You just started talking?

• 15:31Speaker 02

  I, I planned what I was gonna say. I still have it on my phone.

• 15:34Speaker 01

  Really?

• 15:35Speaker 02

  Because I have voice recordings of every open mic that I ever did.

• 15:39Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 15:40Speaker 02

  Yeah, I went back and I listened the other day and I was like, this is so bad. It's shocking. But-

• 15:46Speaker 01

  In the moment, were you like, I ate?

• 15:48Speaker 02

  Absolutely. Which I think is like, the thing for stand up is like, the first time you do it, you, you get such an adrenaline rush, where you're like, ha, ha, ha, ha, I'm talking in front of all these people and they're listening.

• 16:01Speaker 01

  And they're laughing.

• 16:02Speaker 02

  And they're laughing. Because also for your first time you go up on stage and you're like, this is my first open mic, so everyone sort of like, supports you, whatever. And then, after that, you just suck shit for like, three years. And you're chasing the high of the first time you did it.

• 16:20Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 16:21Speaker 02

  And then you sort of start to get like, a little bit better.

• 16:24Speaker 01

  And did you meet, you met Io through, not open mic, but a sketch, right?

• 16:29Speaker 02

  Through, yes. We did, we did a sketch together. So we both didn't get into like, the sketch improv group.

• 16:34Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 16:35Speaker 02

  And then like, sort of, we both did, we like, bonded over that. I remember we like, we did a sketch together, where I was like, oh my god, she is the funniest person ever. Just ever. And then like, we did open mics together. We like, were, we would shoot these little sketches together. Like, basically like, I think our friendship grew and like, we would do stuff together. And like, I remember I made her do, I had this show called Puke Fest that I did with my friend Moss in his basement, where it was like, a drinking game show. And I was like, you have to do this show, whatever. And she was so funny.

• 17:19Speaker 02

  Like, it was just sort of like, us, basically like- Doing stuff together and finding our own spaces, I think, to do comedy or perform when we weren't like, we didn't make it into the sort of like pre. I don't know.

• 17:35Speaker 01

  Precursor?

• 17:39Speaker 02

  I don't even know what that.

• 17:39Speaker 01

  So you know what? I haven't said that word in years.

• 17:42Speaker 02

  It came out so natural.

• 17:45Speaker 01

  Yeah. Wow.

• 17:47Speaker 02

  Precursor?

• 17:48Speaker 01

  Precursor.

• 17:49Speaker 02

  What does that mean?

• 17:49Speaker 01

  It's like, uh, before.

• 17:54Speaker 01

  Until like the thing.

• 17:56Speaker 02

  Yes, yes. The precursor, the precursor groups, the precursor, it does not coming out for me.

• 18:04Speaker 01

  No, and you know what? And the best part is, I don't even think that's the right word.

• 18:07Speaker 02

  Mm-mm. It's not.

• 18:08Speaker 01

  Why?

• 18:09Speaker 02

  It's just like, there's no way that was the right word.

• 18:11Speaker 01

  Precursor to like success.

• 18:14Speaker 02

  We were, we, we, it sounded, it sounded fabulous to me. It's basically, we, any of the things that we expected or like any of the things set up by the school or whatever, we didn't get into or find a way into. So we like made our own ways. And I think that was really fun and exciting to do together.

• 18:37Speaker 01

  So you liked college?

• 18:38Speaker 02

  I like, I, I, I like life more and more every year. I've never wanted to go backwards ever. I liked, I like college like retrospectively in terms of I met so many of my best friends there that I'm still friends with to this day. And I learned a lot, but I was kind of miserable.

• 19:02Speaker 01

  I was, well, I feel like, well, I feel like.

• 19:05Speaker 02

  Were you miserable?

• 19:05Speaker 01

  Of course. Every day I was like, I'm miserable. But then I left and I was like, oh shit.

• 19:10Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 19:10Speaker 01

  But, and I agree with you. I kind of like life more and more because maybe it's because like, I don't know why. Why do you think it is that you like life more and more every year?

• 19:18Speaker 02

  Um, I think I like life more and more every year because like, I don't know, you learn shit and you become more yourself. And like, I feel like I was always.

• 19:31Speaker 02

  Someone who was like, I need to do this, do stuff with my life and I need to be like busy and whatever, like, I feel like I have like, my mind is sort of like, it like chews on stuff and if it doesn't have anything to chew on, it chews on itself.

• 19:48Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 19:49Speaker 02

  Same brain.

• 19:50Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 19:51Speaker 02

  Do you feel that?

• 19:52Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 19:53Speaker 02

  Yeah. It's like, I will, I will eat myself alive in my brain. But now I have a job where I'm really busy and so then I can eat at my job and, and find thing, whatever. But like, I, I really, and then also it's like, you just figure shit out. Like, it's like, you, you go on Accutane and your skin stops driving you crazy. You get better at sex.

• 20:16Speaker 01

  We're on Accutane?

• 20:18Speaker 02

  I was on Accutane.

• 20:18Speaker 01

  Your skin is amazing.

• 20:20Speaker 02

  Shout out Accutane, shout out.

• 20:22Speaker 01

  You had bad skin.

• 20:23Speaker 02

  Oh my God, I had the worst skin.

• 20:26Speaker 01

  What the fuck is an Accutane?

• 20:28Speaker 02

  Magic. I keep trying to be like, let me do a commercial for Accutane. They're like, they don't need you.

• 20:34Speaker 01

  Wait, do they do commercials?

• 20:36Speaker 02

  No, because they don't need you because it's Accutane, because it's like, we all know about it.

• 20:39Speaker 01

  But aren't the side effects to Accutane like death?

• 20:42Speaker 02

  It's, it, did you do it?

• 20:44Speaker 01

  No.

• 20:44Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 20:45Speaker 01

  Never.

• 20:45Speaker 02

  You have amazing skin. You never had bad skin.

• 20:47Speaker 01

  No.

• 20:48Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 20:48Speaker 01

  Except when I shaved my eyebrows when I was a kid, I got pimples right there.

• 20:52Speaker 02

  I love, actually, do you know what I love is when someone who's never had bad skin, it just is like, proud in that.

• 20:58Speaker 01

  I am.

• 20:58Speaker 02

  Because so, because when I had acne, acne, it was like, I was always talking to girls with like, perfect skin who were like, I break out too on my period, like, you just, you, you can't really see it, but I feel it. I'm like, shut the fuck up.

• 21:11Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 21:11Speaker 02

  Shut the fuck up. I had terrible skin, like, on and off. I had like hormonal acne. I had like, it was just, it was just bad and it would make me cry and I would be like, in the mirror substance vibes, like, doing shit to my face. It just, it drove me insane and I tried. Everything. I tried like facials. I tried like naturopathic doctor. I tried like topicals, everything. And like, it just drove me crazy. And then, basically, I should have done Accutane during COVID. I didn't, because I didn't really know about it. And then I had a friend who did, and she was like, I did it during COVID. It was genius. And I was like, shit, I should have

• 21:52Speaker 02

  done it during COVID, because it makes you bleed. You can't pop any of your zits.

• 21:58Speaker 01

  Right.

• 21:58Speaker 02

  Your skin is super dry.

• 22:00Speaker 01

  Wait, what?

• 22:01Speaker 02

  Your pimple is dry.

• 22:02Speaker 01

  I'm sorry, I'm sorry. That's what Accutane does?

• 22:05Speaker 02

  It basically like, resets every like, pore in your face. I don't really know how to describe it. Basically, what happened to me, is that it was like, I all of a sudden, it, it, it almost like, made every pimple that I was ever gonna have in my entire life, come out in the span of six months, is what it felt like.

• 22:25Speaker 01

  Was it a horrible six months?

• 22:26Speaker 02

  Horrible six months.

• 22:27Speaker 01

  And you were like, but?

• 22:29Speaker 02

  And it made me depressed, but I couldn't tell if it was the pill, or the fact that I was bleeding from my face.

• 22:36Speaker 01

  You just bleed?

• 22:37Speaker 02

  Like, you just, it's like, every day you wake up, and there's a new zit on your face, and it's huge, and it's painful, and you can't pop it, or your, or your skull really bad.

• 22:47Speaker 01

  And then you just, after six months, you're like, oh, wait, my skin's clear?

• 22:50Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 22:51Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 22:52Speaker 02

  And it's like, and it's like, and you're so dry, and like, your lips bleed, and you have to reapply Aqua4, and your skin is dry, your hands are chapped, and like, you're so thirsty all the time, and you can't drink, and?

• 23:05Speaker 01

  You, did you, you didn't drink on Accutane? Yes, you did.

• 23:08Speaker 02

  I did, of course. But it's bad, when you do it. And you get drunk really quick, and then you get hungover really quick. And actually, after doing Accutane, I don't, Accutane, I feel like Accutane brought me into a new era of my life, because afterwards, I don't drink as mu, like, I tried to drink on it, and it made, I would get sick, and now I like, don't really drink that much.

• 23:33Speaker 01

  How, like, how many drinks per night, if you're out?

• 23:37Speaker 02

  Like, two.

• 23:37Speaker 01

  What?

• 23:38Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 23:39Speaker 01

  Just two?

• 23:40Speaker 02

  Just two. And I don't even, like, I'll go, I'll go to, if I go to dinner, I'm like, I'll have a glass of wine.

• 23:46Speaker 01

  So, when you were at, like, Charli XCX's wedding, you had two drinks?

• 23:51Speaker 02

  I had like, three.

• 23:52Speaker 01

  What?

• 23:54Speaker 02

  I'm trying to remember, but I feel like, actually, that's different. I, I had, I had more drinks.

• 24:01Speaker 02

  But, but they were spread out throughout the course of like a day and a night.

• 24:05Speaker 01

  Yes, of course.

• 24:06Speaker 02

  But I'm just saying, I don't, that Accutane like shifted alcohol for me.

• 24:11Speaker 01

  Do you?

• 24:12Speaker 02

  Me lying. I was like, I had three drinks.

• 24:15Speaker 01

  I was like, no, you didn't.

• 24:16Speaker 02

  That was a lie. That was a lie.

• 24:17Speaker 01

  That's okay. I lie all the time.

• 24:18Speaker 02

  That was pick me behavior. That was real pick me behavior.

• 24:20Speaker 01

  No, I lie all the time.

• 24:21Speaker 02

  That, the, the, in general, I just mean Accutane made it so that I can't handle alcohol. It just doesn't, it's like, it's like, Claire and I were talking about this the other day. It's like, I get, I'm drunk for 20 minutes now.

• 24:36Speaker 01

  Yes, and you're like, I'm tired.

• 24:37Speaker 02

  And then I've, and then I'm hungover.

• 24:39Speaker 01

  Yeah, that happened to me the other day.

• 24:41Speaker 02

  I'm like at dinner already hungover. So I'm like, why, what am I getting drunk for?

• 24:44Speaker 01

  Right. It's miserable.

• 24:45Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 24:45Speaker 01

  It's actually miserable.

• 24:47Speaker 02

  But I'm bringing back weed for me.

• 24:50Speaker 01

  Rachel? Me? Too.

• 24:53Speaker 02

  Oh my God. And it feels so good. But I think I needed to take time away to come back to it.

• 24:58Speaker 01

  I took 10 months off.

• 24:59Speaker 02

  Oh, I took like, I took like, I took years off because I was getting really paranoid and weird.

• 25:04Speaker 01

  Me too.

• 25:05Speaker 02

  But now I realize I can totally smoke weed as long as I'm only with people I trust.

• 25:09Speaker 01

  I'm like, I can smoke weed

• 25:13Speaker 01

  twice a week.

• 25:14Speaker 02

  Perfect.

• 25:15Speaker 01

  And like, in those, I have 20 minutes where I am like, peak funny, peak creative, peak everything. And then it sucks.

• 25:22Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 25:22Speaker 01

  And I just need to like chain myself to my bed so I don't go down and eat.

• 25:25Speaker 02

  No, it's totally fine.

• 25:28Speaker 02

  I just need to do it, I just need to time it right. So that the second I turn evil, I'm asleep.

• 25:33Speaker 01

  Right. Oh my God. Yes. I used to have like manic breakdowns on weed.

• 25:38Speaker 02

  Yes, yes.

• 25:38Speaker 01

  Like manic paranoid delusions.

• 25:40Speaker 02

  Yes. I just need to be like around like a best friend or my boyfriend. And then once it turns bad, it's like, just put me to bed and it's fine.

• 25:51Speaker 01

  Or I'll take like an Advil PM. Do you ever take anything to go to bed?

• 25:53Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 25:54Speaker 01

  What do you take?

• 25:55Speaker 02

  I'll take an Advil PM. Or a Klonopin. I need to chill because I need to chill because it's like, everyone takes it so seriously. Every day I'm tagged in a fucking pharmaceutical article about beta blockers. And I'm like, you guys, this, it's not that serious. But it's like, I need to chill about being like, you know.

• 26:16Speaker 01

  Like.

• 26:16Speaker 02

  Cause, cause every day they're like, she's on pills. And then it's like, I, I, I, there's like videos of me talking and I just.

• 26:24Speaker 01

  And people are like, she's on pills.

• 26:25Speaker 02

  I'm like, I'm just stupid and I sound this way.

• 26:29Speaker 01

  You can't take a Klonopin and go do an interview. You'll fall asleep.

• 26:32Speaker 02

  No, you'll fall asleep.

• 26:32Speaker 01

  You'll, I took a Klonopin on the 4th of July this year.

• 26:34Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 26:35Speaker 01

  Whole day done.

• 26:36Speaker 02

  Just, just for the plane, just for the plane. It's a lot to take to, for the plane. Yeah, the day it's, it's, you're, you're done.

• 26:43Speaker 01

  You're done. And it's amazing.

• 26:46Speaker 02

  And it's amazing.

• 26:47Speaker 01

  It's amazing.

• 26:47Speaker 02

  And it's amazing.

• 26:48Speaker 01

  I had, I was having, um, like a, I was like freaking out one day. My friend was like, girl.

• 26:53Speaker 02

  Take a Klon.

• 26:54Speaker 01

  And I was like, I've never, and she was like, just.

• 26:56Speaker 02

  Just.

• 26:57Speaker 01

  And I was like, and I looked at her, I said, you can't give me these ever again. Cause I went to bed and I woke up and I was like, that was the closest thing to magic I've ever had.

• 27:05Speaker 02

  It's just amazing.

• 27:06Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 27:07Speaker 02

  But that's why it's like, you have to, it's like for travel, I get nervous if it's like a really long flight or I'll get sick. No, but I'm trying to make it seem, I just can't be awake for 12 hours on a plane.

• 27:21Speaker 01

  You can't, what are you gonna do? What do you do?

• 27:24Speaker 02

  What do you do?

• 27:25Speaker 01

  What do you do?

• 27:26Speaker 02

  Nothing, nothing. It's not gonna be good for anyone if I'm awake on a flight. It's gonna be really bad.

• 27:33Speaker 01

  Do you have a plane album that you listen to?

• 27:34Speaker 02

  Um, no, I usually have like a takeoff song.

• 27:38Speaker 01

  What's your takeoff song?

• 27:39Speaker 02

  But it, it depends on where I'm at.

• 27:41Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 27:41Speaker 02

  Like basically to me, what I listen to, taking off on a flight is like, how the next, how the trip is gonna be or where I'm going. So I'll do a song depending like how I'm feeling, you know?

• 27:57Speaker 01

  So let's say you're sitting there and you're feeling excited about your trip.

• 28:00Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 28:01Speaker 01

  But like, you're like, fuck, this flight's gonna suck. What are you listening to?

• 28:04Speaker 02

  I, let me look at, let me look at my phone and let me, and see what I've been, but is recent. Okay, I've been listening to the Scissor Sisters.

• 28:12Speaker 01

  Never heard the Scissor Sisters before.

• 28:14Speaker 02

  Oh my God.

• 28:14Speaker 01

  I need to.

• 28:15Speaker 02

  You would love.

• 28:16Speaker 01

  I know.

• 28:16Speaker 02

  It's really like, this is sort of like. Should I play it from my phone? Is that annoying?

• 28:22Speaker 01

  No, play it.

• 28:23Speaker 02

  Or no, because then we can't put it in the thing.

• 28:25Speaker 01

  Number one, that. Number two, like, what if I don't like it?

• 28:27Speaker 02

  Let's not.

• 28:30Speaker 02

  Dig into This Is a Sister later.

• 28:32Speaker 01

  And I'll text you.

• 28:32Speaker 02

  And you'll text me and let me know.

• 28:34Speaker 01

  Right.

• 28:34Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 28:34Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 28:35Speaker 02

  Off cam, off cam. Off cam. Perfect.

• 28:38Speaker 01

  But so do you, what were we talking about?

• 28:41Speaker 02

  We, you asked me how I cast the cast. And then we, and then we got here. Can you believe that? We told, we went.

• 28:50Speaker 02

  It's just, it's just because we, it's just, we have the gift of gab.

• 28:53Speaker 01

  We have the gift of gab. And you know what? That's a sign of a really good friendship blooming.

• 28:57Speaker 02

  It's a thousand percent.

• 28:59Speaker 01

  That's how I feel.

• 29:01Speaker 02

  I feel, I felt instantly we walked into the space. I felt safe with you.

• 29:05Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 29:05Speaker 02

  I knew I was gonna feel that way though. I wasn't even nervous.

• 29:08Speaker 01

  I knew.

• 29:08Speaker 02

  I wasn't even nervous. For a second.

• 29:13Speaker 01

  I love that LA.

• 29:17Speaker 01

  So when does it premiere?

• 29:19Speaker 02

  November 2nd.

• 29:20Speaker 01

  November 2nd.

• 29:21Speaker 02

  November 2nd.

• 29:21Speaker 01

  And it goes until the holidays?

• 29:23Speaker 02

  Until the holidays.

• 29:24Speaker 01

  It's eight episodes.

• 29:25Speaker 02

  It's eight episodes, Sunday nights. So ideally what I'm hoping for, because when I was in college, me and my roommates did like, Sunday nights, we would make banana bread and then we would watch Big Little Lies. And I just want people to get their girls together and watch it together and have fun.

• 29:41Speaker 01

  HBO Sundays are special.

• 29:43Speaker 02

  They're special.

• 29:44Speaker 01

  HBO Sundays are the best day of the week.

• 29:46Speaker 02

  Yeah. And I wanted to, I wanted to deliver for you guys because for, for,

• 29:52Speaker 02

  and it's too, it's too, the show, we've already made it, so there's nothing else, there's nothing else to do. We just have to hope that it, that it delivers to people. But the, the, the feeling, I, I love that feeling of like, the communal watch and you know you're being taken on a ride and you're gonna have fun and there's gonna be like a little, ooh, like, what's happening next to the end of the episode? Like, that's the, the, that experience.

• 30:20Speaker 01

  Right.

• 30:20Speaker 02

  I think it's, has always been so special to me and hopefully people get that.

• 30:24Speaker 01

  What are you, like, what have you been watching recently? Like, in the past year, few years?

• 30:29Speaker 02

  I feel like. Very recent, like when I was making the show, I was watching like older stuff like I rewatched Atlanta.

• 30:40Speaker 01

  I've never seen Atlanta.

• 30:41Speaker 02

  Oh my god, it's such a good show.

• 30:44Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 30:45Speaker 02

  It is, it is such a good show. It's so good.

• 30:49Speaker 01

  Favorite show of all time?

• 30:50Speaker 02

  And they do like every episode, like the second episode of that show. It's so hard to write a second episode of TV because for the pilot, you set everybody up and you're like, this is Bob and he does this and there's there.

• 31:05Speaker 01

  Right, right, right, right.

• 31:06Speaker 02

  The second episode, now you need to like bring people into the world, but you have to like, hook them, but you don't have the setup of the fir-, it's so hard. The second episode of Atlanta is so genius because I'm not gonna like spoil it for you. But it's, it does, it, it basically like turns it on its head of what you would expect like a second episode of television to be. I rewatched Atlanta. I watched Entourage.

• 31:36Speaker 01

  Also never seen.

• 31:37Speaker 02

  Love Entourage.

• 31:39Speaker 01

  I've heard it's the best of all time.

• 31:40Speaker 02

  It's so fun. It was like a big reference for the show. We were like, we want to do like Entourage for like internet girls.

• 31:47Speaker 01

  Right.

• 31:48Speaker 02

  That was a big reference. I watched Sex and the City. Um, I rewatched Girls. Like I did, I did rewatches of stuff. Um, during the making of the show because I was like, I want to sort of like, basically like watch the things that made me feel alive when I first saw them.

• 32:09Speaker 01

  Right.

• 32:10Speaker 02

  Yeah. And Atlanta was one where I was like, because I done Sex and the City, I've sort of watched like throughout, like sporadically, like I've never done a full rewatch. I'm like, let me put on like Big is Moving to Paris kind of thing.

• 32:29Speaker 01

  Did you like Sex and the City though?

• 32:32Speaker 02

  I didn't, well, I guess I watched it first. I watched like, I watched it like, I never watched it like in a row.

• 32:42Speaker 01

  Got it.

• 32:43Speaker 02

  But I liked it.

• 32:44Speaker 01

  I couldn't get behind it because I grew up in New York and it felt so unrealistic to me.

• 32:48Speaker 02

  Okay, totally.

• 32:49Speaker 01

  So I was like this just like, and I hated Carrie.

• 32:52Speaker 02

  You hated Carrie.

• 32:53Speaker 01

  I hated Carrie. I watched like two episodes. I was like, this girl sucks.

• 32:57Speaker 02

  But it's like, I relate to that because sometimes I'm like, this is what I felt the last week when I was like having my crush out before I went, before I went to feeling good again, um, is I, every time I started to say a sentence in my mind, I would be like, shut up, you stupid fucking bitch. Like it's like, I, it's like everything I would do, I would be like, what if people don't, what if I, oh my God, am I even like, and then I was like, shut the fuck up, shut the fuck up. Like, do you ever do that to yourself?

• 33:28Speaker 01

  No, I don't, I don't tell myself, shut the fuck up. I let the sentence go.

• 33:31Speaker 02

  You let the sentence go.

• 33:32Speaker 01

  Crash out like so unbelievably hard.

• 33:34Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 33:35Speaker 01

  It's like disgusting.

• 33:36Speaker 02

  That's good. But I sometimes feel, the reason why I'm like, I get Carrie is because I'm like, sometimes I'm so annoying and I can't help myself. And I wish I wasn't that way, but I am.

• 33:49Speaker 01

  No, and like the best creatives are annoying.

• 33:51Speaker 02

  It's, they're, they're annoying. They're annoying. We're annoying.

• 33:57Speaker 01

  The Idol.

• 33:58Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 33:59Speaker 01

  What was that like?

• 34:01Speaker 02

  Okay, so I had fun and loved my character.

• 34:04Speaker 01

  Your character was amazing.

• 34:06Speaker 02

  I loved her, Lea, the diva. She, she was really, I was, it was so funny because I,

• 34:15Speaker 02

  I went into my fitting for the show and I was like, I'm about to like pop my pussy and like, look incredible and so hot. I was introduced to a pair of chunky loafer, like heeled loafers, Tory Burch. And I was like, it's gonna be like that. I'm gonna be in a skinny jean and a blazer. And I'm gonna be, and this was really smart costuming by the costume designer Natasha. She was amazing. But like, I would wear the same thing again because of who the character was. So I was like, but basically I went in and like saw all these like country outfits and I was like, I wonder what I'm gonna be serving in this. And it's like a blazer.

• 34:56Speaker 01

  Right.

• 34:56Speaker 02

  A blazer and a chunky heel for the whole thing.

• 34:59Speaker 01

  Did doing the Idol lead to you creating a show with HBO?

• 35:03Speaker 02

  I think it um definitely like furthered my like relationships there. But it's a different like so Amy Gravitt, who is the head of comedy. She were that's like a different comedy is different than the drama. So I was like working with different people. But I think like I'm sure it helped them seeing me in the idol. And then it's actually funny. My first like job ever was an HBO show, High Maintenance.

• 35:40Speaker 01

  Huh, wait, and did is it true? When you were pitching this show initially, it was about someone that spoke to ATMs?

• 35:50Speaker 02

  I know, well, so initially I had a meeting with HBO. Cause I had met with I had had a general with Ally Wosserman, who also works in comedy at HBO. Like pre COVID years ago.

• 36:04Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 36:04Speaker 02

  So it was like I'd had a meeting years ago. And then I had a meeting with Amy and Ally. And they were like, it's just a general like you don't have to pitch anything. But I was like, I had a pilot that I had written about a girl who talks to ATMs. And that and they talked to her. They they she fixed it. She's an ATM mechanic, but the ATMs like talk to her. She like she speaks to them. And obviously it didn't sell. What does that mean? No, clearly nothing.

• 36:33Speaker 01

  I like what like what did the ATMs like say back to her?

• 36:37Speaker 02

  They just all had different personalities and they would all like tell her like what happened like on the street around them kind of. It didn't sell, obviously it didn't sell. You know, it was it was like based off of a short that I did. And then I had like another idea, basically like I had two TV ideas that I had pilots or scripts for that I had like pitched before.

• 37:02Speaker 01

  Right.

• 37:02Speaker 02

  So basically they were like, they just want to get to know you and like talk to you. They've read some of your writing, whatever. So I come in, I like hard pitched them, both of those two ideas. And they're kind of like chill. We don't, we don't need that. We would, we just want to like get to know you, whatever. And then they were talking to me like just asking me about my life and like where I was in that moment. And I started like. Talking about my Saturn return.

• 37:30Speaker 01

  How old are you?

• 37:31Speaker 02

  I just turned thirty.

• 37:32Speaker 01

  Oh, so your Saturn return has returned.

• 37:35Speaker 02

  It has returned, but they actually my, one of my many astrologers slash psychics texted me being like, hey, you're basically Saturn has retrograded back into Pisces. Wow, what, when were you born?

• 37:51Speaker 01

  How old do you think I am?

• 37:53Speaker 02

  Twenty six.

• 37:57Speaker 01

  Five, very close, twenty six and two weeks.

• 37:59Speaker 02

  Okay, I was gonna say twenty five or twenty six.

• 38:02Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah.

• 38:03Speaker 02

  So you, okay, so you're actually safe.

• 38:06Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 38:06Speaker 02

  You're safe.

• 38:07Speaker 01

  So you're not safe.

• 38:08Speaker 02

  Well, you're gonna be not safe soon.

• 38:13Speaker 01

  Why?

• 38:14Speaker 02

  When I, I'm sorry. So I think so you were born in ninety.

• 38:19Speaker 01

  Nine.

• 38:19Speaker 02

  Nine.

• 38:20Speaker 01

  Like tail end.

• 38:21Speaker 02

  Okay, you have time, you have time. Things will get bad, but not for a little.

• 38:25Speaker 01

  So how bad is the Saturn return?

• 38:26Speaker 02

  It's really bad, but it's so good for you.

• 38:29Speaker 01

  How, when did it start for you? How old were you?

• 38:31Speaker 02

  Okay, it's, this is why I say this. If I could describe my twenties.

• 38:38Speaker 02

  Twenty, I can't really remember. Twenty one, hated myself mess.

• 38:45Speaker 01

  Mess.

• 38:46Speaker 02

  Twenty two, for some reason, I feel like it was fun. Twenty three, disaster. Full fucking disaster for me. Worst year of my life. Twenty four, it's like COVID maybe.

• 38:59Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, COVID.

• 38:59Speaker 02

  And, and I'm like, uh, trying, I, I'm confusing time. Twenty five, I felt like, I figured it out. Okay, it's good. Twenty five was good. Twenty four was sort of good too for part of it. Twenty five, good. Twenty six, good, then all of a sudden towards the end. It started to get bad. Twenty seven, bad.

• 39:23Speaker 01

  Like worst year of your life, bad?

• 39:25Speaker 02

  No, twenty three was the, cause twenty, basically what happens, basically I felt like I suffered in my early twenties. Then I reached a, a sort of a period of peace. And then every like lesson that I learned in my early twenties, I came back around like lightning round. It was like bam bam bam. Everything that I thought I already learned quicker and faster. I know. And all of these things that I thought that I was like, I was like, okay, I'm settled. Like I'm, I'm in my relationship for the rest of my life. I'm in a place that I'm living. I have my job. I know what I'm doing. Then it's like, you basically have to decide you're either like, this is my life for the rest of my life, or I have to blow up my entire life and change everything.

• 40:04Speaker 01

  What?

• 40:05Speaker 02

  And I, and I blew up my entire life.

• 40:07Speaker 01

  What do you mean? Like in what sense? Without getting into specifics?

• 40:10Speaker 02

  In the sense that I, basically I just felt like I went through, it actually all happened in one month.

• 40:21Speaker 01

  Cool.

• 40:22Speaker 02

  But, uh, but the themes were going around that time. Like I felt like it was like, I just felt like, basically like I kept coming up against the same things, the same things over and over and over. And then I felt like in one month, I was like given a huge choice and decision in multiple facets of my life. And I had to decide, like, do you know that to talk sound, that's like, you must like break the pattern or the thing that we're playing tomorrow, whatever. I could like hear that like loud in my head and I was like, oh my God, oh my God, like this is my chance. I have to like change this about myself. And I did, I think.

• 41:06Speaker 02

  But then, so then I thought I'm heels and I felt like I made it, but then basically Saturn retrograded back into Pisces from now until Valentine's Day. So I have a little bit more sound in return.

• 41:22Speaker 01

  Are you scared?

• 41:23Speaker 02

  I am. Everything that's come out of it has been good.

• 41:26Speaker 01

  Right. You have a show.

• 41:29Speaker 02

  I have a show. I, I think the lesson.

• 41:34Speaker 02

  I think it's more that I like never believed in myself on my own. I have trouble making decisions. I have trouble trusting my intuition. And I, but whenever I do finally trust my intuition, I'm like, God damn it. I should have done that like three years ago.

• 41:51Speaker 01

  Do you ever feel like your intuition is the first thing you think? Like, you know, when you were taking a test as a kid and it was like, the first thing you think is always right?

• 41:59Speaker 02

  You're like, you're like, C two. And then you're like, no, no, no, it's gotta be A four. And then you walk yourself in circles and then you take 20 minutes and it's C.

• 42:07Speaker 01

  Did you take the ACT or SAT?

• 42:09Speaker 02

  Yes, I think both.

• 42:10Speaker 01

  What?

• 42:11Speaker 02

  I wanna say both. No, SAT.

• 42:14Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 42:14Speaker 02

  What is ACT? I remember I didn't bring water to the test and I spent the whole time being like, I'm so thirsty right now. I'm so thirsty. That's all I can remember about the SATs.

• 42:29Speaker 01

  Did you like school? Like, did you enjoy class?

• 42:32Speaker 02

  I liked having rules.

• 42:34Speaker 01

  Me too, and routine.

• 42:35Speaker 02

  Yes, and routine. That's my like, that's my sad and return lesson is like, rules, control. I'm so like, I need control, I need control. But actually, the best things happen when I'm not in control and I'm just like in, when I'm like free falling into my intuition.

• 42:55Speaker 01

  Is that how COVID felt for you?

• 42:59Speaker 02

  COVID felt a little bit, yeah. Like, I, I basically for so long was like imagining like, things will go back to normal and I'll go back to the path that I was like supposed to go on.

• 43:11Speaker 01

  And what was that path at the time?

• 43:13Speaker 02

  I just like, I just felt like I had all these things that were happening that were supposed to, like, I was like, how is like Shiva maybe gonna come out? We were supposed to go to South by, we were supposed to whatever. But then it actually, I think COVID ended up like,

• 43:31Speaker 01

  Helping.

• 43:32Speaker 02

  Helping because it's like people are gonna watch a screener for like a random indie movie on like their computers.

• 43:38Speaker 01

  Right.

• 43:39Speaker 02

  Is that how COVID felt for you?

• 43:40Speaker 01

  COVID felt for me like I had this Amazing internship lined up, which I was lucky enough to still do.

• 43:47Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 43:48Speaker 01

  And I, I was, so basically at the time, like, I was partying a lot.

• 43:54Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 43:54Speaker 01

  College and I was really worried, how am I gonna chuckle partying on this job? Which sounded stupid, but I was nineteen or twenty.

• 44:02Speaker 02

  By the way, that's a real valid concern.

• 44:05Speaker 01

  Right.

• 44:05Speaker 02

  So many people, I feel this all the time, like you miss out on like this period of your life. And it feels like you're always like, that's why for so long I was like, I need to go back to New York and, and like fuck a bunch of people and drink all the time and da, da, da, da. Cause you feel like you missed out on something.

• 44:21Speaker 01

  That's how I felt.

• 44:22Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 44:22Speaker 01

  That's how I was scared I was gonna feel. And then COVID happened and I stopped drinking. I stopped doing everything for like a year.

• 44:27Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 44:28Speaker 01

  And I worked and it was like the best thing that ever happened to me.

• 44:30Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 44:30Speaker 01

  Because then my boss at the time became my manager and that's how I'm here.

• 44:34Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 44:35Speaker 01

  He was my boss because of this internship that I did well at because I wasn't drinking because of COVID.

• 44:40Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 44:42Speaker 01

  So COVID was good for me.

• 44:43Speaker 02

  But ultimately, it, anything, nothing is ever what you expect it to be. And things that you think are gonna be good or bad and things that you think are gonna be bad or good. Like, it's like, that's why I'm like, I need to release and like, let things be out of my control. That's what I'm, what I'm, what I think the last chunk of my sad and return is gonna be. Is I need to not try to control everything as the show comes out.

• 45:09Speaker 01

  Do you have trouble like not controlling like what people think about you and your narrative?

• 45:13Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 45:13Speaker 01

  Like, do you struggle with that?

• 45:14Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 45:15Speaker 01

  I struggle with that too.

• 45:16Speaker 02

  It's really hard.

• 45:16Speaker 01

  It's very difficult, especially when they're like, this person seems like a bad person.

• 45:21Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 45:21Speaker 01

  You're like, wait, what? Am I?

• 45:23Speaker 02

  I, by the way, it's like, I'm like, I am a bad person, but not for the reasons you think.

• 45:27Speaker 01

  Exactly.

• 45:28Speaker 02

  I need to talk to you and tell you what's actually wrong with me.

• 45:30Speaker 01

  Exactly.

• 45:31Speaker 02

  Cause you guys are guessing what's wrong with me and you're incorrect. There's, it's worse, actually.

• 45:35Speaker 01

  Are you worried that like when the show comes out, your narrative is gonna be way out of your control?

• 45:40Speaker 02

  I'm certain it will be. I'm sure that it will. That's what I'm trying, actually, I'm like, peace. I'm trying to find peace. I'm trying to trust my gut, my intuition and just like be free and let people say what they want and think what they want.

• 45:53Speaker 01

  Do you, okay, so the show was initially called?

• 45:55Speaker 02

  I'm gonna do it.

• 45:56Speaker 01

  Wait, I have to pee so bad.

• 45:58Speaker 02

  I have to pee bad too.

• 45:59Speaker 01

  Wait, really?

• 46:00Speaker 02

  Should we pause? Should we pause and pee?

• 46:02Speaker 01

  P and P.

• 46:02Speaker 02

  P and P.

• 46:03Speaker 01

  Let's pop.

• 46:03Speaker 02

  Okay, pop.

• 46:08Speaker 01

  Thank you Bumble for sponsoring tonight's episode. As you guys know, I have been working with Bumble over these past couple of weeks and it has really helped change my perspective on dating. As you guys know, I've almost infamously never had a boyfriend. I bring it up to every guest in every episode. And I think what Bumble has really helped me learn about dating is that I think some of the problems with dating apps in general is that you are initially like swiping left and right just based on someone's, how you, if you deem them attractive or not. You miss a great person because you don't read what they like, or what their personality is, or who they are, or anything about them, and you're just judging them based on looks.

• 46:52Speaker 01

  And I think what Bumble does so great is that they really put such an emphasis on the prompts and really telling people who you are and it helps you learn about that person instead of just liking or not liking them based on how they look. And like that for me has helped my confidence with dating and yeah, it's really been great for me. And also like working with them and doing like the tell me what's wrongs with them have been so awesome. I get to hear about your guys' dating experiences and you know, share mine as well. Something I also think Bumble does really well is that you feel very safe and confident while using it. You have to verify your account, your phone number, like you know that person you're talking to if they are verified is the real them. They also have the share my date feature.

• 47:33Speaker 01

  So if you are on a date with someone, you can share your location with your friends and loved ones so that you feel safe. The two tips that Bumble has given me that have really resonated with me are to write a very unique bio because that is something I look for when looking for a partner on Bumble or highlighting your interests because that is also like the next thing I look at. If you guys remember when I revamped my profile, I had like working out, watching TV and like I want someone, you know, with similar interests to that. And like I think interest, having shared interests is one of the most important parts of like finding a good romantic partner. Really emphasizing your interests so people know who you are is like the best tips that I've gotten from Bumble. So thank you again, Bumble, for sponsoring this episode.

• 48:17Speaker 01

  I will continue to share my dating journey with you guys, even if I don't have a boyfriend by the age of 40, I will still tell you guys about it. Shout out to Bumble's new app, BFF, which I have also worked with. Brett and I were just in Dallas to promote the launch of it, which Was so fun. BFF is so cool. In an age where we're so digital, to be able to make these like platonic relationships as well and have there be an app for that, you know, to make those friendships digitally and safely is something that's really cool. I think the BFF app is awesome, especially if you've moved to a new city or you're going to a new school. It was about time that there was an

• 48:56Speaker 01

  app, like a dating app, but for friends. And I just think it's awesome. So, thank you, Bumble. Now, let's get back to the episode.

• 49:07Speaker 01

  How was your pee?

• 49:08Speaker 02

  Mine was incredible. How was yours?

• 49:10Speaker 01

  My pee was like, sick. Like, I was peeing and I was like, life is worth living.

• 49:14Speaker 02

  It felt really good. It did while I was peeing. I was like, talk a little slower when you go back in.

• 49:20Speaker 01

  What? No!

• 49:21Speaker 02

  That's the thought that I had while I was peeing.

• 49:24Speaker 01

  Okay, well, you know what? When you were gone, we were all talking about how amazing this is.

• 49:28Speaker 02

  I'm having the best time.

• 49:29Speaker 01

  I'm having the best time, too.

• 49:31Speaker 02

  That's how, I mean, that's why I'm talking fast, because I'm like...

• 49:33Speaker 01

  Wait, I love that you're talking fast. I talk fast, too.

• 49:36Speaker 02

  Well, the best feeling ever. I get into a state like this sometimes with like, my best friends, my boyfriend, whatever, where it's like, you're like, I have so much to say, that it's like, things are... Basically, I'm like, we could go to 10 different topics right now. Like, if I'm only staying on a topic for like, 2 minutes, and then I'm jumping to another topic, but I'm like, I know we'll come back. We have the time. We'll move, we'll go all the way back around to this, but we're going down here first. Best feeling ever.

• 50:11Speaker 01

  It's the sign of a great conversation.

• 50:13Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 50:14Speaker 01

  It really is. What I was gonna ask you, though, was, so, famously, your show is called Untitled Rachel Sennott Project Forever. What were the other titles in the works besides I Love LA?

• 50:27Speaker 02

  Okay, so...

• 50:30Speaker 02

  I basically, we, there were a lot of different titles, so many that are so bad.

• 50:38Speaker 01

  Like what?

• 50:39Speaker 02

  Like, I, I would have to look at, I feel like I like deleted them all from my brain. Um, there, there's basically, it's a lot of pressure because it's like, you've announced Untitled and it's like, you keep saying it over and over and over and then everyone's like, when are you gonna come up with a name? When are you gonna come up with a name? But you're like, still writing the show and whatever, like, I was like, no matter what, it's gonna feel like, you know? Um, we, we talked about like, keeping Untitled and just calling it Untitled, but then, um, I was like, you know what? If people wanna call it Untitled, they can, like, you know what I mean? Or still call it Untitled, whatever.

• 51:22Speaker 02

  Um, there was this name that I liked, Climbers.

• 51:28Speaker 01

  Love that.

• 51:28Speaker 02

  You like that?

• 51:29Speaker 01

  But I love, I like, I like, I love, I,

• 51:32Speaker 02

  I love, I love, yeah.

• 51:34Speaker 01

  I love, I love LA more.

• 51:36Speaker 02

  I love, I love LA. I love LA. I think it's like, I think the thing with Climbers is that, it was like, it was like, a double meaning of like, social climbers, but also like, you have to like, I feel like for th- this generation, it's like kind of a hamster wheel where nothing is ever enough and you never feel really like secure. I think, like, I think like, it's like, it's things that were so much easier for different generations, like, buying a house, whatever, like, nothing feels certain.

• 52:11Speaker 01

  Right.

• 52:11Speaker 02

  You're sort of like, buy a house so that for what? When the floods come? Like, they're on their way. Like, it doesn't, it's, it's such, it, it, this feeling of like, never feeling like, secure or...

• 52:26Speaker 02

  Like what you do is enough. Like, I think that's something a lot of people feel. And I think we all kind of feel like there was, a lot of people were set back by COVID or like not able to like, it's like you're entering the workforce or you're graduating college in a time when everything is really chaotic. And like, every day I read an article that's like, the industry's never been worse. Here's why this is happening, blah, blah, blah. And it's, it just, it's a lot like, and so that was kind of where some of part of the climbers thing came from. But we felt like, I didn't want to feel like we're

• 53:10Speaker 02

  judging the characters for like, being online or caring, caring about the things that they care about. Obviously, like, we are, I think, like, the Dylan character is a good, like, outside perspective who cares about different things than what our characters care about. We're not saying that the things they care about are the only things that matter. We're just trying to like, I just, I just hate when you see a show that's like about Gen Z and you see the characters and they're all like, I'm stupid. I love phone. I like, I'm like, we're stressed out, like we're depressed. People are like medicated because they're, it's like,

• 53:55Speaker 02

  it's not, it's not like really fun to be young. Like, it feels like it's always like talking down to or making fun of them, kind of. And I'm like, I don't, I'm not trying to make fun of like, I'm not, I like, there's, it's a comedy. Obviously, the characters are funny, hopefully. But like, I think that like, there's a difference between that and like, making a joke of every character. Like, I really tried to make sure each character has like a, and I think the actors are amazing and they do this so well. They bring like a depth and a heart to the character.

• 54:37Speaker 02

  But that's why I think we went away from climbers is because I didn't want it to feel like before you even got to the show, it sounded like we're making fun of all these narcissistic, whatever people.

• 54:49Speaker 01

  It's just like we're entering this new age of like, we're feeling like, you know what I mean? Like, we're recognizing these things that happen that we used to make fun of as real things that affect people.

• 54:59Speaker 02

  Yeah, and I think also, like, what I really wanted to do was show the internet the way that it is for us, which is like, the internet is such a big part of everyone's life.

• 55:11Speaker 01

  Right.

• 55:11Speaker 02

  But at the same time, it doesn't feel clunky or weird. Like, it's just like, like, I wanted to put into the show, the internet affecting the characters' lives, but not in a way where it feels like, we're like, phone, like, you know what I mean? Text comes in, whoa, bit like, you know, like, we're going viral, like, that kind of thing. I didn't want it to feel like that. And Entourage was a big reference for us in that way because in Entourage, you don't actually see Vince act ever. He's an actor, but you barely ever see him work. He's always kind of like, just, it's like a part of his life, but it's more about like the lifestyle, whatever.

• 55:54Speaker 02

  And I was like, the internet has to feel like the industry that they're all a part of.

• 56:01Speaker 01

  Right.

• 56:02Speaker 02

  Without ever feeling like clunky, or like, we're looking at a phone all the time. And like, it's just like, the way that we talk about it, the internet, and it affects people's lives, without it ever feeling like, over, like,

• 56:20Speaker 01

  No, it's very well done. It's very well done. You grew up on the internet, you know how to use it.

• 56:25Speaker 02

  And it feels like, it's like, yeah, it affects, and it is funny, and we can still make fun of it and find humor in it.

• 56:32Speaker 01

  Right.

• 56:33Speaker 02

  But at the same time, it's like, it is something that is a part of everyone's life, and like, we can, we can sort of, the reason it's hard to show is because anytime you reference something that already happened on the internet, it moves so quickly that you date yourself. So it's like, we needed to like, Have the movement of the internet and the way that stuff happens on there, but fictional.

• 57:01Speaker 01

  Well, what was it like working with Josh Hutcherson?

• 57:03Speaker 02

  Oh my god, it was a delight.

• 57:06Speaker 01

  I love him.

• 57:07Speaker 02

  He is the best. He is just so, so funny.

• 57:10Speaker 01

  He seems funny.

• 57:11Speaker 02

  So sweet, so lovely. Like honestly, I, so I met with him over Zoom and we like read through some of the seeds and talked about them. And I was just like struck by, he makes you feel so comfortable. And I was like, I think he's gonna feel like, hopefully to audiences, like your boyfriend because you're like, I know you. I saw you in Bridge to Charibethia. I saw you in Hunger Games. I know you. You're my boyfriend.

• 57:41Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 57:42Speaker 02

  Of four years or whatever.

• 57:44Speaker 01

  Did you like Hunger Games?

• 57:45Speaker 02

  Loved.

• 57:46Speaker 01

  Were you team Peter or team Gale?

• 57:48Speaker 02

  I was team Peter.

• 57:49Speaker 01

  Of course. Do you know anyone that was team Gale?

• 57:53Speaker 02

  No, I don't think so. I don't, wait. I kind of, I'm trying, I wonder, Claire and I were talking about this once because we were like, um, when I was in my single era, we were like talking about two different guys and we were like, it's a classic Peter versus Gale situation. And I think maybe Claire was team Gale, but I can't remember. I don't wanna, I don't wanna put that, I don't wanna put words into her mouth.

• 58:18Speaker 01

  You were team Gale?

• 58:19Speaker 02

  Claire? Were you a team Gale?

• 58:22Speaker 01

  No way. Why?

• 58:24Speaker 02

  I remember that. Also, we have to remember, we're looking at Peter versus Gale with hindsight is 2020. We know Gale blew up the sister, prim. Like, we're looking at it, we're looking at it, you know?

• 58:39Speaker 01

  Right.

• 58:41Speaker 02

  But at the time, you know, as the movies are rolling out, Gale is sort of like a little more edgy.

• 58:47Speaker 01

  Of course, but like, remember when Peter gave Katniss the bread?

• 58:51Speaker 02

  Of course. No, that, that's why I was team Peter.

• 58:54Speaker 01

  Yeah, and got his ass beat for it too.

• 58:56Speaker 02

  Were you team Edward or team Jacob?

• 58:59Speaker 01

  Edward.

• 59:00Speaker 02

  Jacob.

• 59:00Speaker 01

  What?

• 59:01Speaker 02

  Yeah, and see, again, hindsight, 2020.

• 59:04Speaker 01

  Why were you team Jacob?

• 59:05Speaker 02

  Because I loved the thing with the sleeping bag. It made me so horny and I didn't know why.

• 59:10Speaker 01

  Am I not thinking of the?

• 59:12Speaker 02

  In the one where basically like she's really cold and she was like, I'm so cold, I'm so cold. And Edward's like already cold and he's like, don't touch me, don't touch me. And then she, and then Jacob's like, you're gonna die, like you have to get into the sleeping bag and cuddle with me. Or you're gonna die.

• 59:29Speaker 01

  And they were all in the same tent?

• 59:30Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 59:30Speaker 01

  And was Edward not mad?

• 59:32Speaker 02

  He was furious.

• 59:34Speaker 01

  Do you remember?

• 59:34Speaker 02

  Why do you think I was so horny?

• 59:36Speaker 01

  Do you remember?

• 59:36Speaker 02

  It was so good. It was like, I was literally, I literally reread that like chapter over and over like,

• 59:43Speaker 02

  like not knowing why. I was like, why do I have to keep reading this?

• 59:46Speaker 01

  Do you remember how graphic that birth scene was?

• 59:49Speaker 02

  So graphic.

• 59:50Speaker 01

  The baby was like clawing out.

• 59:52Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 59:53Speaker 01

  And then it was a CGI baby.

• 59:54Speaker 02

  It was crazy. I wanted to be cast as the baby, Emma.

• 59:59Speaker 01

  Wait, what?

• 1:00:00Speaker 02

  I just kind of like misunderstood. I was probably like 12 or something. I read that book and I was like, I want to be cast as the baby in this. And then I found the casting director's email and I reached out.

• 1:00:11Speaker 01

  Oh, so you were like?

• 1:00:13Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:00:13Speaker 01

  Oh, you were about it.

• 1:00:14Speaker 02

  I was about it. I got grounded. The only time I ever got grounded was because I like secretly behind my parents' back, signed up for like breakdown casting website. And I auditioned. Did you ever see that Miley Cyrus movie like LOL?

• 1:00:29Speaker 01

  Lola, of course.

• 1:00:30Speaker 02

  And I auditioned for, there were like sides for it on the website. And I filmed an audition of me saying both lines. And the lines were like two girls like in the bathroom being like, I heard you hooked up with him. And, and my parents found the video of me doing this audition on the family computer. And they were like, what the fuck is this? And I was like, I auditioned for a movie. And they were like, this is inappropriate. You're talking about hooking up with someone. You're 12. You didn't tell us about it. You're like sending videos of you doing, talking about hooking up with someone to a random email like.

• 1:01:06Speaker 01

  Do you have these videos?

• 1:01:08Speaker 02

  I don't think so. I feel like they were like lost in like, when, when they, when they deleted the internet. Do you know when they like, I feel like at a certain point they deleted the internet and then they did a new one? Probably like when I was like. Sixteen.

• 1:01:22Speaker 01

  I also feel that way.

• 1:01:24Speaker 02

  You know?

• 1:01:24Speaker 01

  Yeah, it was when Instagram came.

• 1:01:26Speaker 02

  Yeah, when Instagram came, they deleted the last one and they did a new one.

• 1:01:29Speaker 01

  I completely agree.

• 1:01:30Speaker 02

  They did that.

• 1:01:31Speaker 01

  Do you, is it, what's your favorite social media app?

• 1:01:33Speaker 02

  Hmm.

• 1:01:35Speaker 01

  It's difficult, huh?

• 1:01:36Speaker 02

  It's hard. It depends. I go through phases. I sometimes miss Twitter.

• 1:01:41Speaker 01

  Well, you started on Twitter, no? Like, that's where you started to get recognition for the first time.

• 1:01:45Speaker 02

  I sometimes, I so often, especially when I'm high, I'm like, I have a little thought. I have a little thought I want to share with everyone really bad, but I'm like, I can't. I just can't.

• 1:01:58Speaker 01

  Why?

• 1:01:59Speaker 02

  Because I, I don't think it's good for me to be over there anymore because I'm like, well, I just, I don't even know what it's like anymore because I haven't been on there. But people are like, it's kind of, it's kind of, um, hater vibes over there. But I'm like, I'm a hater sometimes. Like, I have hater thoughts I want to share.

• 1:02:19Speaker 01

  But the hater vibes on Twitter are like so intense.

• 1:02:22Speaker 02

  Really intense?

• 1:02:23Speaker 01

  It's like, this person deserves death. And you're like, you like said that.

• 1:02:27Speaker 02

  It's a photo of us.

• 1:02:28Speaker 01

  Song like wasn't your favorite, right? Like, it's crazy over there.

• 1:02:32Speaker 02

  Um, I haven't checked it out because I, it's too, wasn't on there. I get like sucked in. But I love like, I do love like sharing a sentence with people, but, so I miss it a lot. Um, Instagram. I don't know. In general, I feel like I haven't been, I feel like I haven't been as online. Recently, like, I'm trying to think of the most fun I'm having on my phone.

• 1:03:08Speaker 02

  This isn't a social media app, but I've been loving doing group FaceTimes.

• 1:03:12Speaker 01

  Me too, low key.

• 1:03:13Speaker 02

  I've been loving like you're on FaceTime with someone and then someone else FaceTimes you and you're like, let me just loop them in. Let's all just talk.

• 1:03:20Speaker 01

  That is the best. And they answer?

• 1:03:22Speaker 02

  And they answer. And then you put them all in and like you just add people to the group chat. Like it's like, it's that, that is not social media, but that's fun I've been having on my phone.

• 1:03:32Speaker 01

  Oh, I have my most fun when everybody's active in a group chat all at once.

• 1:03:36Speaker 02

  Yes. No, I love it. I'm like, let's all talk.

• 1:03:38Speaker 01

  Yes, all at once.

• 1:03:39Speaker 02

  All at once. I also will say on TikTok, I have like my friends that I send like TikToks to. And that's really fun. Like when you have like a backlog.

• 1:03:53Speaker 01

  Of shit?

• 1:03:54Speaker 02

  Of shit. And you're like, you knew I'd like this, like, or like when you both send each other the same one.

• 1:03:59Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, that's electric. That happened to me yesterday. Yeah. Well, what are you therapist about today?

• 1:04:07Speaker 02

  What am I therapist about today? I am, I'm actually, it's like if we had been here like one week ago, I would have had so many things. But I'm like really trying to be un- un-therapist today. Let me, let me think. Let me think. Well, I think, can I ask you what your favorite social media is?

• 1:04:26Speaker 01

  Yes. My favorite social media is, um.

• 1:04:31Speaker 02

  What is it?

• 1:04:31Speaker 01

  TikTok, probably.

• 1:04:32Speaker 02

  TikTok. It is really fun.

• 1:04:35Speaker 01

  It's addictive.

• 1:04:35Speaker 02

  I will say that the thrill of like, of making a TikTok and then watching it back.

• 1:04:43Speaker 01

  Don't even play with me. And watching like the views go up and people comment like, this is so good. This is so funny. I'm like, woo!

• 1:04:49Speaker 02

  And you feel, you feel like you're like, I shot a film.

• 1:04:52Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:04:53Speaker 02

  Every time I feel like I shot a film.

• 1:04:54Speaker 01

  I, when I get high, sometimes I stalk myself on TikTok and I'm like, I've curated this.

• 1:05:00Speaker 02

  Especially when you get a group together. This is what I really love is when I get a group together. I have a vision, I execute. And it's that is really, that feels really special.

• 1:05:14Speaker 01

  Like, you want to know what I would just like describe as like a TikTok film?

• 1:05:17Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:05:18Speaker 01

  That video Charlie posted of her wedding to the Everything is Romantic.

• 1:05:22Speaker 02

  That's a movie. That's a movie. It's a movie.

• 1:05:24Speaker 01

  I watched that multiple times and I was like, this is like, if I had posted this myself, like, I would re-watch this every day.

• 1:05:30Speaker 02

  I, I would, we, all the time. And you're like, oh, heaven. Okay, what am I therapist about? I feel myself like fighting that last little bit of change of the Saturn return. And I can feel myself like gripping so hard. And I'm like, release the claw.

• 1:05:48Speaker 01

  And for you, that changes like letting, losing control of your narrative and.

• 1:05:52Speaker 02

  Losing, I need to lose control of my narrative. I need to lose control of like, I'm like, there's so many things that I'm like, I want to change. Like, I'm like, I had this whole during my like crash out, I was like, why didn't I get laser hair removal three years ago? And I'm still living in the place that I lived with my ex-boyfriend and I, I don't have like, I only have spoons and I don't have forks. And I, I just started like freaking out about like so many things about my life and like wanting to change everything. And then I was like, shut up, shut up. Like, and then I was like, I just, I need to appreciate the good things that I have. And, and like know that I can get, I will get laser hair removal gradually and it'll be okay.

• 1:06:35Speaker 02

  And I'll get forks and it'll be fine. Like, it's all gonna be fine.

• 1:06:38Speaker 01

  I love laser hair removal.

• 1:06:39Speaker 02

  I love laser hair removal.

• 1:06:41Speaker 01

  It's like.

• 1:06:41Speaker 02

  I just started.

• 1:06:42Speaker 01

  Really? Okay. So like, does it hurt yet?

• 1:06:45Speaker 02

  It's hurting, but that's good because that's how I know it's working.

• 1:06:48Speaker 01

  That's how, sometimes when I first started, it didn't hurt. Like, and then I was like, you, do you go to Sev?

• 1:06:54Speaker 02

  No.

• 1:06:55Speaker 01

  Sev laser. Come on, you have to go to Sev laser.

• 1:06:57Speaker 02

  But is it on the west side?

• 1:06:58Speaker 01

  No, there are so many locations.

• 1:07:00Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:07:00Speaker 01

  It is the best. They have like this.

• 1:07:02Speaker 02

  The way I just, I went, is it on the west side? And they went, and they have locations, they go, okay.

• 1:07:06Speaker 01

  It's so nice.

• 1:07:08Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:07:08Speaker 01

  And like, it, I like makes the laser experience enjoyable.

• 1:07:12Speaker 02

  Ooh.

• 1:07:13Speaker 01

  You know, they go, do you feel like a little rubber band?

• 1:07:15Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:07:15Speaker 01

  And you go, yeah. And then they turn up the fan and then it's beep, beep, beep. Do you, does yours not have a fan?

• 1:07:22Speaker 02

  No.

• 1:07:23Speaker 01

  So like Sev makes it hurt less because there's a fan.

• 1:07:26Speaker 02

  Oh, is it like one of those little tricks in your brain where you don't know?

• 1:07:30Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:07:31Speaker 02

  Yeah. Okay, wait, can I say one other thing I'm therapist about? Where are my fucking friends? They need to come back to LA.

• 1:07:38Speaker 01

  Where are they?

• 1:07:39Speaker 02

  They are everywhere. They're in New York, they're in London, they are working. I'm like, girls, come home. Everyone needs to come back to LA and hang out for the next month.

• 1:07:51Speaker 01

  I think we have a mutual friend, Morgan.

• 1:07:52Speaker 02

  Mayor?

• 1:07:53Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:07:53Speaker 02

  Love her.

• 1:07:54Speaker 01

  She's amazing. I saw her on a flight the other day and I was like, oh.

• 1:07:57Speaker 02

  But she's always on a damn flight.

• 1:07:58Speaker 01

  She's always on a flight.

• 1:07:59Speaker 02

  I'm like, girl, stop. She literally wasn't texting me from a flight yesterday. She was like, "Sorry, I need to text you because I'm on a flight and the fingers are moving." But I, I'm like, guys, everyone.

• 1:08:11Speaker 01

  Come home.

• 1:08:11Speaker 02

  Come home.

• 1:08:12Speaker 01

  Well, as you were saying, LA is about to have like a real resurgence. I feel it. I feel like.

• 1:08:17Speaker 02

  The fall, the crisp air.

• 1:08:19Speaker 01

  And I feel like for the first time in a while, like.

• 1:08:21Speaker 02

  Sixty, five degrees.

• 1:08:22Speaker 01

  It is crisp. I was freezing this morning.

• 1:08:24Speaker 02

  I was freezing. I'm shaking.

• 1:08:25Speaker 01

  I feel like for the first time, LA is like an underdog in a way that it hasn't been in so long. And like, I just feel, I feel it. Like Louise wanted to move to New York for like three years and then all of a sudden was like, "No, LA is, I'm staying."

• 1:08:36Speaker 02

  Is it?

• 1:08:37Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:08:37Speaker 02

  Is it? No, I think we're gonna have a really beautiful social fall.

• 1:08:41Speaker 01

  Me too. I also feel that way.

• 1:08:43Speaker 02

  I feel that way. And more dinner, more things, like more little social things. You know what I mean?

• 1:08:49Speaker 01

  I'm like kind of in my dinner party era.

• 1:08:51Speaker 02

  I miss the amazing dinner party, but tell me about the next one.

• 1:08:55Speaker 01

  Yeah, I think there's, I think you should plan another one.

• 1:08:57Speaker 02

  I have to, yeah, I just not at my place. But I should plan one somewhere else.

• 1:09:03Speaker 01

  They're fun.

• 1:09:03Speaker 02

  They're fun.

• 1:09:04Speaker 01

  They're fun. It's like, oh, I don't know you, but now I do.

• 1:09:05Speaker 02

  Now I do.

• 1:09:06Speaker 01

  Right?

• 1:09:06Speaker 02

  I know. And then, and then my favorite part is when everyone sort of like moves around. You start with your people you already know and then you move around and then you're like, "Who's this fabulous woman?" And then you meet her and you walk away and you know someone else.

• 1:09:21Speaker 01

  Have you ever been to the Scientology building?

• 1:09:23Speaker 02

  Haven't been inside.

• 1:09:24Speaker 01

  Which is in I Love LA.

• 1:09:25Speaker 02

  Which is in I Love LA.

• 1:09:26Speaker 01

  I want to go.

• 1:09:28Speaker 02

  Don't go.

• 1:09:29Speaker 01

  Why?

• 1:09:30Speaker 02

  Because I just, I just.

• 1:09:33Speaker 02

  You know, we've only been talking for like an hour, but I feel you're similar to me.

• 1:09:38Speaker 01

  I'll like, believe it.

• 1:09:40Speaker 02

  It's not that you'll believe it. I just know I have such a hard time saying no to people. Like, do you know what I mean? And if it's like, uh, their whole thing, it's like, I'm like, if all they did was like, text me once a week, I would have to join. Like, I would be, I would be like, well, it'll be easier to join Scientology than it would be.

• 1:10:06Speaker 01

  Get these texts. Yes, and ignore these texts.

• 1:10:08Speaker 02

  Then you ignore these text messages.

• 1:10:10Speaker 01

  Do you, have you ever seen a documentary about Scientology?

• 1:10:12Speaker 02

  No, I haven't.

• 1:10:13Speaker 01

  Apparently they're amazing.

• 1:10:15Speaker 02

  There's more than one. But the big one is going.

• 1:10:18Speaker 01

  Uh, going clear. Cause when you go clear, that's like the epitome of Scientology.

• 1:10:22Speaker 02

  Oh, God.

• 1:10:23Speaker 01

  With Leah Remini. I need to see it.

• 1:10:25Speaker 02

  I need to see it too.

• 1:10:26Speaker 01

  Okay. Do you want to get into the tell me what's wrongs?

• 1:10:28Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:10:29Speaker 01

  Sometimes I feel like I'm holding my guest captive. Do you feel like I'm holding you captive?

• 1:10:32Speaker 02

  No, I actually feel like I'm holding you captive and everyone in this room captive.

• 1:10:36Speaker 01

  You know what? To make you feel better, I feel like I'm holding you captive.

• 1:10:39Speaker 02

  No, I'm having the best time.

• 1:10:40Speaker 01

  Okay, me too.

• 1:10:40Speaker 02

  And I'm having an awesome, awesome, like, day. It's just being, I never come to the west, all of a sudden, I'm like, I'm feeling, I'm like, I might go like pumpkin picking today.

• 1:10:51Speaker 01

  Wait, I was talking about going pumpkin picking yesterday.

• 1:10:55Speaker 02

  By the way, it's like, I, it's like, I looked at my phone in the bathroom, all these people emailing me, I'm like, I can't.

• 1:11:00Speaker 01

  You're on the west side.

• 1:11:01Speaker 02

  I'm on the west side. You can't reach me.

• 1:11:02Speaker 01

  You can't fucking reach me.

• 1:11:04Speaker 02

  I'm going pumpkin picking.

• 1:11:05Speaker 01

  You're going clear.

• 1:11:06Speaker 02

  Claire and I are going, we're literally, sorry, we're gone.

• 1:11:10Speaker 01

  You can choose to believe me or not, but I'm, what? But I'm low key exclusively dating a famous actor. The problem is, he's still in this PR relationship with an actress and his management won't let them break up yet. Hmm, it sounds like he is just in a relationship.

• 1:11:26Speaker 02

  I don't think PR relationships are real. They're not real.

• 1:11:30Speaker 01

  They said he has to wait at least another couple of months. What should I do? I love him, but I hate seeing all the pics of him kissing the other, this other girl. Sounds like he's in another relationship.

• 1:11:39Speaker 02

  He's in another relationship. He's in another relationship and he's like, he's like, I think I'd love to hook up with you for one more month.

• 1:11:46Speaker 01

  Yeah, like.

• 1:11:49Speaker 02

  And that what? No.

• 1:11:51Speaker 01

  I am trying to think of like a movie I would prescribe. But I can't think of one. Cause PR, I don't believe in PR relationships. I really, unless they're Scientology based. Like I believed in the Tom Cruise one.

• 1:12:02Speaker 02

  Yeah, but I don't, I for the most part, I'm like, I don't, I have yet to really see one. I'm like, no, it's just, there's not that many people to date.

• 1:12:13Speaker 01

  Right?

• 1:12:14Speaker 02

  Sorry.

• 1:12:15Speaker 01

  That's what I think too.

• 1:12:16Speaker 02

  People to date. Everyone's just kind of dating each other, but it's not PR.

• 1:12:20Speaker 01

  And like, sometimes it just works out where the movie is coming out.

• 1:12:23Speaker 02

  Yeah, sometimes it's just timing.

• 1:12:25Speaker 01

  I wonder who it is.

• 1:12:26Speaker 02

  I wonder who it is. I know. That would be a good, that would be, it is, it is like a good movie idea of like a PR relationship.

• 1:12:35Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:12:35Speaker 02

  Or like, what is that movie where Sandra Bullock and um,

• 1:12:40Speaker 01

  The Proposal?

• 1:12:40Speaker 02

  The Proposal.

• 1:12:41Speaker 01

  The Proposal.

• 1:12:42Speaker 02

  That kind of, it's sort of like the Proposal type situation. Um, I want to say like,

• 1:12:50Speaker 02

  date someone else.

• 1:12:51Speaker 01

  Yeah, and also, please like message me privately and tell me who this is. I need to know who it is.

• 1:12:56Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:12:57Speaker 01

  And I'll tell, I'll tell you.

• 1:12:58Speaker 02

  Together.

• 1:12:59Speaker 01

  Yeah, to message us in an Instagram group chat. So one of us will see it and please tell me who this person is.

• 1:13:05Speaker 02

  But also I don't want to be like a hater to the person who submitted this question. I'm like, I'm like, whoever this is, anyone, anyone who is ever telling you, I can be in a relationship with you, just not now, is a liar, is a liar.

• 1:13:23Speaker 02

  Either someone can be in a relationship with you or they can't.

• 1:13:25Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:13:26Speaker 02

  Anytime there's like, I just need to this, I just need to that, I just gotta da da da. No.

• 1:13:33Speaker 01

  Move on.

• 1:13:33Speaker 02

  No, move on. The things that people will say of, I just, I can be in a relationship after I like, get a new fridge. I'm not kidding you. Like people are fucking saying shit that is crazy that isn't true. And if I could be, it's like, for me, if there's someone I could picture myself in a relationship with, I can do it today.

• 1:13:56Speaker 01

  Got it.

• 1:13:57Speaker 02

  Right?

• 1:13:57Speaker 01

  How old were you when you had your first boyfriend?

• 1:14:00Speaker 02

  Um, I had a boyfriend in high school. But it was like my high school boyfriend.

• 1:14:04Speaker 01

  Got it.

• 1:14:05Speaker 02

  And then towards the end of college, I was in like an on and off relationship where I was like,

• 1:14:14Speaker 02

  I was like, I've been dating you for like a year, like, but he didn't want to be my boyfriend and then changed his mind. But then at that point I was over it. So I would say, I would say, I would say like my high school

• 1:14:29Speaker 02

  boyfriend was like my first, I, I, I guess, I guess the relationship at the end of college was my first like adult relationship.

• 1:14:36Speaker 01

  Got it.

• 1:14:37Speaker 02

  But it was a disaster.

• 1:14:39Speaker 01

  My bridesmaid wore white every day of my bachelorette weekend, even got mistaken for the bride and given my special bridal shot at the restaurant. Was she being clueless or trying to steal my spotlight?

• 1:14:49Speaker 02

  Um, I think that feels steal the spotlight.

• 1:14:53Speaker 01

  Yeah, I think so too.

• 1:14:54Speaker 02

  I just want to say like, I started going to weddings this summer and I'm wearing like light pink and I'm like, is this giving white?

• 1:15:02Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:15:02Speaker 02

  Is this giving white? Is it giving white? Is the dress is blue? I'm like, in certain lights.

• 1:15:07Speaker 01

  It's white.

• 1:15:08Speaker 02

  Inserting, inserting lighting, could, could this be white? And everyone's like, no, but I'm afraid. To me, that feels purposeful and weird.

• 1:15:14Speaker 01

  It's giving like, watch, I prescribe bridesmaids, which is one of my favorite movies of all time.

• 1:15:18Speaker 02

  Yes. Yeah.

• 1:15:20Speaker 01

  Have you ever been a bridesmaid?

• 1:15:21Speaker 02

  No.

• 1:15:22Speaker 01

  It sounds like a lot of work.

• 1:15:24Speaker 02

  It does, but I really want to do it for like my sisters and my best friends.

• 1:15:28Speaker 01

  Or is anyone in your life engaged that you're going to be bridesmaids for?

• 1:15:32Speaker 02

  Not yet, but I think I would be a good bridesmaid.

• 1:15:34Speaker 01

  You would be a great, I think you'd be a good maid of honor.

• 1:15:36Speaker 02

  Ooh, I can definitely like rally a group chat.

• 1:15:40Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:15:40Speaker 02

  I'm really good at like doing something, like I can host a party or do a dinner the way someone else would want it. Like I'm not going to put the way I would want it onto the thing.

• 1:15:53Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:15:53Speaker 02

  Like I would be like, this is how she likes an event. This is how she likes a party.

• 1:15:58Speaker 01

  Got it.

• 1:15:58Speaker 02

  You know what I mean? That I would love to do for my friends and my sisters.

• 1:16:02Speaker 01

  That's the whole point of maid of honor is planning the bachelorette and the bridal shower and weddings are fun.

• 1:16:08Speaker 02

  Weddings are so fun. Once you go to a wedding that's fabulous.

• 1:16:13Speaker 01

  You can't go back.

• 1:16:14Speaker 02

  You can't go back. A wedding that's meh, a wedding that's kind of merp.

• 1:16:18Speaker 01

  Yeah. It's just like, fuck my life.

• 1:16:20Speaker 02

  Fuck my life. Like especially if I'm like, I'm not really connected. Like if it's like an extended, like cuz, like a second cousin type of wedding or something, then you're sort of like. Okay, okay. I'm trying to get behind this, but I don't really know any of these people. Like, you know what I mean? You, you wanna be at a wedding where you're like, I cherish the bride and groom. Or I'm like here with my, my family that I love or my friends that I love. Once you've had a fabulous wedding, then you want everything to be on that level.

• 1:16:50Speaker 01

  You wanna know what my dream is?

• 1:16:51Speaker 02

  What?

• 1:16:52Speaker 01

  I want to like barely know someone, maybe we've gone on like one or two dates or maybe no, you know, like one or two dates. And they're like, can you just like be my plus one for this wedding? And I spend the whole weekend with them and I'm their plus one for the wedding. And it's like rom com vibes, like

• 1:17:03Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:17:04Speaker 01

  So romantic. That is my dream. Like I want to be a plus one to a wedding for someone that I'm romantically interested in, but barely know.

• 1:17:10Speaker 02

  And then you leave the wedding in love.

• 1:17:12Speaker 01

  In love.

• 1:17:13Speaker 02

  In love.

• 1:17:15Speaker 01

  Oh my God, that's all I want. And then, cause like, you know, like weddings like make people horny. You're like, I want to go have sex.

• 1:17:21Speaker 02

  Oh my God, I always wanna have a kid.

• 1:17:24Speaker 01

  Always.

• 1:17:24Speaker 02

  I'm always like, come and meet right now. Like, I'm like, is something that happens? And I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

• 1:17:31Speaker 01

  Everybody's fucking at weddings.

• 1:17:32Speaker 02

  Everyone is fucking at weddings. I love it. And I love sort of like all leaving the party, knowing everyone's fucking. And you're all like, it reminds me of like college, like, do you know when you're like hooking up with someone and they have roommates? And then there's other girls hooking up with the roommates and then you guys all see each other like in the kitchen in the morning and you're like, hey.

• 1:17:50Speaker 01

  I never experienced it, but all my friends did. And like, I got to like, be like, me too.

• 1:17:54Speaker 02

  Me too. Hey, were you guys just having sex in there? Us too.

• 1:17:58Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:17:58Speaker 02

  That's what a wedding feels like. It feels really college.

• 1:18:01Speaker 01

  Fuck, I have like so many weddings coming up and I'm like so excited about it.

• 1:18:04Speaker 02

  They're gonna be amazing.

• 1:18:05Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:18:05Speaker 02

  You could also invite someone that you don't know that well, that you're romantically interested in to wedding and they're your plus one and you guys fall in love.

• 1:18:12Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:18:13Speaker 02

  Just saying.

• 1:18:14Speaker 01

  Should I do that? Nah, I wanna be asked. Please.

• 1:18:18Speaker 02

  Yeah, but, but, but I think you can ask someone.

• 1:18:21Speaker 01

  Okay. Okay. I think I have someone in mind. I think I'm gonna do it. Well, like it.

• 1:18:26Speaker 02

  I, let's talk about it after.

• 1:18:28Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:18:29Speaker 02

  I wanna know who.

• 1:18:29Speaker 01

  I'll tell you. I'll tell you about them.

• 1:18:31Speaker 02

  Yes. When is the first wedding?

• 1:18:32Speaker 01

  Summer.

• 1:18:35Speaker 01

  So like

• 1:18:35Speaker 02

  Okay, so either either by then you'll be in a relationship with this person and it won't and you'll sort of maybe what you can do is pretend you've just met and sort of like get off on that or it doesn't work out with this person you find a new person you invite them.

• 1:18:49Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's my dream though and I need it to happen. It's my goal for next year.

• 1:18:53Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:18:53Speaker 01

  That is my New Year's resolution. I'm saying that right now.

• 1:18:56Speaker 02

  That's happening.

• 1:18:57Speaker 01

  Is I want that.

• 1:18:58Speaker 02

  That's happening.

• 1:18:59Speaker 01

  I'm halfway through college and I'm still dating my high school sweetheart. If you talked to me two years ago, I'd have said we were 100% no doubt getting married. Now, I'm not so sure. The weird part is he's not perfect, but like he's perfectly sweet and kind and caring for me.

• 1:19:12Speaker 02

  No.

• 1:19:14Speaker 02

  Keep going.

• 1:19:15Speaker 01

  I think I'm just getting bored. I I just think it'd be insanely awkward to be at the same school and friend group and mid-breakup. Please help.

• 1:19:22Speaker 02

  Wait, wait, he's at the same

• 1:19:23Speaker 01

  Yeah, I think they go to

• 1:19:25Speaker 02

  They go to the same college.

• 1:19:26Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:19:28Speaker 02

  Breakup, I'm sorry. It's I am always pro-breakup. A breakup is an automatic glow up. A breakup is an automatic like realigning of your values with yourself. You check in with yourself. You get closer with your friends. You talk to your mom more. Do a breakup.

• 1:19:44Speaker 01

  Breakup.

• 1:19:44Speaker 02

  Do a breakup.

• 1:19:45Speaker 01

  You prescribe breakup.

• 1:19:46Speaker 02

  I prescribe breakup. I prescribe. I'm trying to think of like a good movie.

• 1:19:51Speaker 01

  Someone great is good.

• 1:19:52Speaker 02

  That's a great one. That's a great one. But that one's kind of like

• 1:19:59Speaker 02

  what about House Bunny?

• 1:20:02Speaker 01

  House Bunny is the best movie of all time.

• 1:20:04Speaker 02

  All time. It's just funny. They're at college.

• 1:20:07Speaker 01

  They break up.

• 1:20:08Speaker 02

  They break up. It it's just, it's just a good movie. But I think, I think like you're so young.

• 1:20:20Speaker 02

  If you're, if you're having doubts now.

• 1:20:24Speaker 01

  Right. It's like, well, you want the same dick forever.

• 1:20:26Speaker 02

  Let him go. Let him go. And and if it's meant to be, you'll end up back together.

• 1:20:30Speaker 01

  Right. Just like the movie How to be Single.

• 1:20:32Speaker 02

  Yes, perfect.

• 1:20:33Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:20:34Speaker 02

  We've just pitched three. One of those, you're gonna find something from one of those.

• 1:20:38Speaker 01

  At least one. And I think it's probably gonna be House Bunny.

• 1:20:40Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:20:41Speaker 01

  This guy I was talking to ghosted me. Me and my friend were really upset, so we went on a low-key smear campaign towards him online, posting private stories and texting his mutuals just to have one of his friends DM us, telling us that he actually just went into a coma. What the fuck could we possibly do to get out of this?

• 1:21:03Speaker 01

  I don't know.

• 1:21:07Speaker 01

  That's really funny.

• 1:21:10Speaker 02

  That's...

• 1:21:11Speaker 01

  I get it, though. Like, I get it. I understand her. I get it.

• 1:21:16Speaker 02

  This is when I'm like, we've gone too far. This is like the type of stuff where it's like, I feel like I'm like saying, so I'm, I'm always like the person who's like, trash him, girl, do that, da-da-da-da, and then they do it, and I'm like, he's in a coma, love. That's crazy.

• 1:21:30Speaker 01

  You know what? Like, I used to be the biggest proponent of shit like that, and I've learned over these past two years that like, more empathy is required.

• 1:21:38Speaker 02

  More empathy is required. And you never know what's going on.

• 1:21:41Speaker 01

  Never.

• 1:21:41Speaker 02

  Um, I think just, you know...

• 1:21:43Speaker 01

  Shoot him a text, and he'll get it when he wakes up.

• 1:21:46Speaker 02

  Oh my god.

• 1:21:47Speaker 01

  And just be like, I am sorry. I'm so sorry. And maybe like publicly post and be like, ah, everything, like, please disregard.

• 1:21:55Speaker 02

  Please disregard. I had a little bit of a crush out. I take it back.

• 1:21:58Speaker 01

  Yes, just take it back.

• 1:21:59Speaker 02

  Just take it back. I think take it back and be like, I was being silly, took it too far.

• 1:22:03Speaker 01

  Right. But I will say, like, posting private messages is just like...

• 1:22:07Speaker 02

  No.

• 1:22:08Speaker 01

  Satanic.

• 1:22:10Speaker 02

  I don't think, I don't think you need to do it, especially in the context of like, who... I don't know if they were just sort of posting texts without saying who it was.

• 1:22:20Speaker 01

  No, it sounds like they were saying who it was, because that guy DM'd them, being like, yo, he's in a coma.

• 1:22:24Speaker 02

  Yeah, don't. That's bad.

• 1:22:26Speaker 01

  Have you ever met anyone that has been in a coma?

• 1:22:29Speaker 02

  No, unless someone didn't tell me about their coma. What's that coma movie with Rachel McAdams and Channing Tatum?

• 1:22:37Speaker 01

  Before You?

• 1:22:37Speaker 02

  Before You. Before You or After You?

• 1:22:40Speaker 01

  Me bu... or...

• 1:22:41Speaker 02

  Me and Before You. You and me.

• 1:22:43Speaker 01

  Coma.

• 1:22:43Speaker 02

  That's a good movie.

• 1:22:44Speaker 01

  I found out that my therapist also reps one of my coworkers that is one of the main issues in my conversations with her. I found this out because I'm friends with my coworker's mom, and she slipped up, et cetera, et cetera. It's not important. I feel double-crossed and lied to. Why? Your therapist can't tell you? Like, I bet my coworker is talking shit about me too. How do I bring this up to my therapist? Well, you shouldn't feel double-crossed and lied to. Legally, a therapist can't tell you that.

• 1:23:08Speaker 02

  No, they can't tell you that. And also, they're totally... That means your therapist is doing their job, right? It the and the fact that your therapist like it would be different if your therapist was like saying shit to you that was like, I bet your coworker feels this like taking something, but they're not doing it. They're probably handling it as like two totally different situations.

• 1:23:34Speaker 01

  Do you have a good therapist?

• 1:23:35Speaker 02

  I do have a great therapist.

• 1:23:37Speaker 01

  I I love mine, but I need like ones specifically for my OCD and I keep putting it off.

• 1:23:43Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:23:43Speaker 01

  Cause it's in Pasadena and I just, it's so far.

• 1:23:46Speaker 02

  It's so far.

• 1:23:46Speaker 01

  And like, I'm like, fuck.

• 1:23:49Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's, it's hard. It's like, I get even now, I always like stop seeing my therapist when I'm filming something because I can't, like, there's just no time. And then when I come back, I almost am like, it's like all the problems come out because they, I'm like bringing up stuff from two months ago. And then I'm like, this is why I shouldn't do therapy. Like, I'm just getting upset all over again. And then like after like a month, it like evens out again. But I feel that way. Sometimes my therapist like sees other people in the industry and all like say like a name and she'll be like, who? And I'll be like, this person. She'll be like, oh yes, I'm familiar. And I'm like, what do you mean?

• 1:24:29Speaker 01

  Like, do you rep them?

• 1:24:30Speaker 02

  Do you rep them?

• 1:24:31Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:24:32Speaker 02

  Do you rep them, us about a therapist?

• 1:24:33Speaker 01

  I've never been asked out before. I'm a 24 year old woman and not to toot my own horn, but I'm not bad looking by any means. Men approach me, yeah. But no one has ever pulled the trigger and asked me on a god honest date. Is there anything I could be doing wrong?

• 1:24:49Speaker 02

  No, I'm like, I'm like, no, I'm like, there's no way you're doing something wrong. I'm like, you a stranger that I don't know? You're perfect.

• 1:24:58Speaker 02

  What do you think? I feel like, I don't know.

• 1:25:01Speaker 01

  Maybe you're not as confident as you think.

• 1:25:03Speaker 02

  But it sounds like, wait, wait, she's saying people hit on her, but she doesn't get asked out on dates?

• 1:25:09Speaker 01

  She like puts off like a, okay, look, I learned this the hard way, but like flirting is not being rude. And I thought it was like being rude, like, uh, ew.

• 1:25:19Speaker 02

  Yeah, sometimes someone comes up to you and you're like, you bitch, ew, gross, burping in my mouth. And then you're like,

• 1:25:24Speaker 01

  mean it.

• 1:25:25Speaker 02

  Yeah, you don't mean it. And then you're like, they walk away and you're like, why didn't they ask me to dinner?

• 1:25:28Speaker 01

  Right. So maybe it's the approachable thing?

• 1:25:32Speaker 02

  I think when you, when try a different.

• 1:25:36Speaker 02

  Just, we don't know what you're doing, to be honest. We can't, we can't tell you. We're not in the room with you.

• 1:25:41Speaker 01

  Right, there's a lack of context.

• 1:25:42Speaker 02

  There's a long, a lack of context. But so the next time someone hits on you, do something different than what you've been doing.

• 1:25:48Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:25:49Speaker 02

  And see how it goes. And then if that doesn't work, try something else.

• 1:25:51Speaker 01

  I'm the worst flirt in America.

• 1:25:53Speaker 02

  Really?

• 1:25:54Speaker 01

  Are you good at flirting?

• 1:25:54Speaker 02

  I'm good, I'm good at flirting.

• 1:25:55Speaker 01

  Yeah, I know you are.

• 1:25:56Speaker 02

  I'm good at flirting. I almost like am sometimes like too, I love flirting with like, I love flirting with everyone.

• 1:26:05Speaker 01

  Okay. How do you flirt?

• 1:26:07Speaker 02

  I don't know. It just happens and then I'm like, I'm doing it.

• 1:26:11Speaker 01

  Ugh.

• 1:26:12Speaker 02

  I know, but I, maybe I'm not that good and I just think I am, but I love, I just love like, I just love like giggling with someone.

• 1:26:20Speaker 01

  I flirt how Debbie Ryan behaves and that is like my issue and I really need to figure it out.

• 1:26:27Speaker 02

  Do you flirt, like, how far is it from what we're doing right now?

• 1:26:31Speaker 01

  No, like, I flirt, I flirt like, like, you know what I mean? Like, that is like, do you know what I mean?

• 1:26:37Speaker 02

  Totally.

• 1:26:38Speaker 01

  Like, I flirt, like, who, me? And it's like, no, not you. Like, stop. Does that make sense?

• 1:26:45Speaker 02

  Yeah, I can't picture that because that feels like a different vibe than what you're giving me right now.

• 1:26:50Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's horrible.

• 1:26:50Speaker 02

  But to me, I feel like when I'm flirting, I'm just sort of giving me,

• 1:26:54Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:26:55Speaker 02

  directly to one person.

• 1:26:56Speaker 01

  That is the proper flirting, just being you.

• 1:26:58Speaker 02

  Because I feel like I'm, I'm like, we're flirting right now.

• 1:27:02Speaker 01

  Yes, we're friendship flirting.

• 1:27:03Speaker 02

  We're friendship flirting.

• 1:27:04Speaker 01

  Yeah. And it's been going great.

• 1:27:06Speaker 02

  And it's been going awesome. Remember when we both had to pee at the same time?

• 1:27:09Speaker 01

  Dude, that was like the best feeling of my life.

• 1:27:11Speaker 02

  When you had to pee, I was like, it's like you're ridding my mind.

• 1:27:14Speaker 01

  And I was.

• 1:27:15Speaker 02

  You were.

• 1:27:15Speaker 01

  And we had the best peas.

• 1:27:16Speaker 02

  We had the best peas.

• 1:27:18Speaker 01

  My hus- my husband always complains that he thinks he's balding. He's very embarrassed about it. Would it be bad to get him Nutraful hair growth supplements for Christmas? He's sensitive, so I don't really know what to do here. Yeah, I probably wouldn't get it for him for Christmas.

• 1:27:31Speaker 02

  No, not for Christmas.

• 1:27:32Speaker 01

  Just get them for him.

• 1:27:33Speaker 02

  Get them for him.

• 1:27:34Speaker 01

  And be like, if you want it.

• 1:27:36Speaker 02

  If you want it, it, it's also like, I think there's a beautiful moment where you can let men into the joy of having insecurities. We like, a straight man, like bring him in, bring him into the fold. It's like, it's like they, they think it's so crazy to be like, I feel like weird about that I'm balding. It's like, let me bring you into like 30 years of eating disorders, like seeing different magazines, hating my face, telling, everyone telling me my nose was too big, over plucking my eyebrows, trying to grow them back, getting laser hair removal, worried about like, come, join us.

• 1:28:16Speaker 02

  In here, get in here. It's okay. It's actually really fun to hate something about yourself. And then guess what? They invented ways to fix it because that's how they're making businesses.

• 1:28:25Speaker 01

  Yes. Why aren't straight guys insecure?

• 1:28:28Speaker 02

  It's, it's fun sometimes to have something and then you get over it.

• 1:28:32Speaker 01

  It's communal.

• 1:28:33Speaker 02

  It's communal. By the way, it's like, I hated, I was made fun of for my nose all of like, middle school, high school, then in college, I was like, I'm obsessed with my nose. Now I, I love my nose. I overplugged my eyebrows. Now they're back. I love them.

• 1:28:46Speaker 01

  You have gorgeous eyebrows.

• 1:28:48Speaker 02

  Thank you. But it feels so much better than if I never hated my eyebrows.

• 1:28:51Speaker 01

  Right. That's how I feel about like, yeah, that's how I feel about like, like I'm like, like waxing my body or something. Like, you know what I mean? I'm like, well, I hate my hair up here. I'm just gonna go wax it.

• 1:29:02Speaker 02

  I love your hair up there.

• 1:29:03Speaker 01

  Well, thank you, but I don't. And I'm gonna go wax it. Yeah.

• 1:29:06Speaker 02

  And now you have a thing to do.

• 1:29:07Speaker 01

  Exactly. It's an activity.

• 1:29:08Speaker 02

  It's an activity.

• 1:29:09Speaker 01

  Join us.

• 1:29:09Speaker 02

  Yes, join us.

• 1:29:11Speaker 01

  I crashed the car I was taking my driving test in. It was totally my fault and I don't have insurance. Apparently I don't owe much, but it's gonna be a while before I get my license. Also somehow that information got to my school. I'm so embarrassed. Help me cope. You crash a lot, don't you?

• 1:29:25Speaker 02

  Yeah. I'm not a good driver.

• 1:29:27Speaker 01

  Okay. Well, that's because you're from the, well, actually no, you're from Connecticut.

• 1:29:30Speaker 02

  But I drove there, but it was, it's not a freeway situation. I

• 1:29:36Speaker 02

  I feel like just own it, become like a girl who's a bad driver, make other people pick you up.

• 1:29:41Speaker 01

  Always. I don't drive, I don't have my license.

• 1:29:42Speaker 02

  Diva behavior.

• 1:29:43Speaker 01

  Exactly, I Uber everywhere.

• 1:29:45Speaker 02

  It's like, it's like, by the way, people love to feel needed. You go, can I have a, can I have a ride? Make, you're going on a first date, pick me up.

• 1:29:55Speaker 01

  Right? Oh my god, that is the best.

• 1:29:57Speaker 02

  Pick me up, I don't know how to drive. Oh, sorry, you just got a job, can you drive to work? No, I don't have my license.

• 1:30:03Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:30:04Speaker 02

  Send a car.

• 1:30:05Speaker 01

  Ooh, love that energy.

• 1:30:06Speaker 02

  Yeah, because once you know how to drive.

• 1:30:11Speaker 01

  It's all about you.

• 1:30:11Speaker 02

  Once they know that you have a license, they're gonna make you drive the car, even if you're bad.

• 1:30:16Speaker 01

  Well, you came in here with a parking ticket.

• 1:30:18Speaker 02

  Literally, parking ticket. Parking ticket, I'm getting, I just found out that my car was all broken. I got in a car accident on Valentine's Day this year, it was, it's disaster.

• 1:30:28Speaker 01

  It's more like, I don't have it together and that's okay.

• 1:30:31Speaker 02

  And that's okay, that's okay.

• 1:30:33Speaker 01

  Well, Rachel, what did we learn today?

• 1:30:36Speaker 02

  We learned, I think we learned that we're like really connected.

• 1:30:40Speaker 01

  I also feel that way.

• 1:30:41Speaker 02

  I feel, I feel we have, I feel, I actually think when you get to your Saturn return.

• 1:30:48Speaker 01

  I'm gonna text you.

• 1:30:48Speaker 02

  Call me, because I can see, I just, I, I could, I can actually look at your chart and see what your lesson is gonna be, but there's no way to know how it will manifest.

• 1:30:59Speaker 01

  Will you text me your astrologist's number?

• 1:31:02Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:31:02Speaker 01

  I need one.

• 1:31:03Speaker 02

  Do you want a psychic or an astrologer?

• 1:31:04Speaker 01

  Psychic, scare me.

• 1:31:06Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:31:07Speaker 01

  They scare me because it's like, I don't wanna know.

• 1:31:08Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:31:08Speaker 01

  You like that?

• 1:31:10Speaker 02

  I like, I like, I, I have three psychics I've been to that I like and two astrologers.

• 1:31:17Speaker 01

  And do you, are they accurate?

• 1:31:20Speaker 02

  They always say one thing that's true.

• 1:31:22Speaker 01

  And you're like, ooh.

• 1:31:23Speaker 02

  It's somewhere in two hours of them talking to you, they'll say one thing that's true and you won't know till three years later.

• 1:31:30Speaker 01

  Like, what, what is one thing that a psychic said to you once that you, that came true?

• 1:31:36Speaker 02

  I went to a psychic like years ago who told me that I needed to write more and that I would have my own show.

• 1:31:43Speaker 01

  And you do.

• 1:31:44Speaker 02

  And then, but of course, it's like, I'm in the industry. You could say, they probably also said other stuff. Um, I had a psychic tell me, I had a psychic come to the office during the pilot and give everyone readings. And she gave everybody these readings that were like, you are the future. You are this like, you're about to come into a lot of money. You're about to really find yourself. I sat down, she looked at me, she goes, your boyfriend isn't your soulmate. All right, I'm out of time. And I, I went at the end because I wanted everyone else to go see her first. I sat down, she was literally like, he's not your soulmate. I was like, I didn't even say anything. She goes, he's not your soulmate. Okay, I gotta go. I have to go to like the valley. I was like, what the hell is going on? And then we broke up.

• 1:32:26Speaker 01

  Well, I guess I learned that maybe I can trust a psychic.

• 1:32:30Speaker 02

  I think you can. I think, I think like what they do is they say things. Same as with, with astrology. It's like they say stuff, whether it's true or not, you hear it. And does it resonate with you or not? Do you know what I mean? If she, by the way, if we were soulmates and she said to me, you're not soulmates, in my head, I would go, please.

• 1:32:50Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:32:51Speaker 02

  You know what I mean?

• 1:32:52Speaker 01

  But because you questioned it, you were like, she's right.

• 1:32:54Speaker 02

  I was like, I'm questioning it. This is shedding light on my relationship.

• 1:32:57Speaker 01

  A hundred percent. Well, this has been one of the most fun times I've ever had.

• 1:33:02Speaker 02

  Me too.

• 1:33:03Speaker 01

  Really?

• 1:33:04Speaker 02

  Yes, it's electric. I feel so, I'm, I'm telling you, now I'm gonna go get sushi and maybe pumpkin pick.

• 1:33:10Speaker 01

  Well, do you want to give a little bye pussies?

• 1:33:12Speaker 02

  Bye pussies. Thank you for having me.

• 1:33:14Speaker 01

  I love you.

• 1:33:15Speaker 02

  I love you.

• 1:33:26Speaker 03

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