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War Was the Easy Part | Eduardo Garduno

The Team House

Hosted by Jack Murphy

3h 37m
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This episode features a conversation with Eduardo Gardunio, a former Army Ranger who served in 2nd Ranger Battalion as an 11-Charlie mortarman with deployments to Afghanistan, Syria, and Iraq. Gardunio shares his turbulent childhood in California, marked by poverty, an alcoholic father, and immersion in gang neighborhoods. He details his journey into the military through an option forty contract, surviving the brutal selection processes of RASP and Ranger School, and executing mortar fire missions in overseas conflicts. Finally, he discusses his difficult transition into civilian life, working as a police officer amidst institutional friction, and his eventual confrontation with severe PTSD, alcoholism, and mental health crises.

  • When facing extreme stress or physical fatigue in training or high-pressure environments, breaking the challenge down day by day can help you persevere. 2:51:52
  • Ignoring or suppressing underlying trauma with alcohol and avoidance will eventually lead to a breaking point that requires professional intervention. 3:22:15
  • Writing down your experiences and processing past trauma can provide clarity and help you understand behavioral patterns. 3:34:36

Chapters

  1. 0:00
    Podcast Intro and Sponsor Ads

    The episode opens with a brief introduction and multiple sponsor advertisements before the hosts begin the interview.

  2. 1:01
    Host Introduction and Guest Overview

    Jack Murphy introduces Eduardo Garduno, outlining his military background and the focus of the upcoming interview.

  3. 2:02
    Early Childhood and Family Background

    Eduardo recounts his upbringing, his immigrant father's work ethic, and the lack of parental attention that shaped his early life.

  4. 3:45
    Father’s Alcoholism and Its Impact

    Eduardo describes his father's drinking habits, the financial struggles, and how witnessing this influenced his attitudes toward authority and responsibility.

  5. 4:48
    School Life and Early Trouble-Making

    Eduardo explains how he sought attention at school, became a troublemaker, and developed a protective mindset through early conflicts and fights.

  6. 15:20
    Neighborhood Violence and Gang Encounters

    He recalls a Halloween incident where neighborhood kids were chased by gang members, highlighting the dangerous environment and his growing awareness of street violence.

  7. 17:00
    Reflection on Authority and Personal Growth

    Eduardo reflects on how early encounters with authority, both positive and negative, shaped his worldview and influenced his later choices and resilience.

  8. 30:18
    Closing Remarks and Final Thoughts

    The hosts wrap up the interview, summarizing Eduardo's journey and offering listeners key takeaways from his story.

  9. 32:52
    Podcast Intro and Ad Read

    The hosts open the episode with a brief introduction and a short advertisement for OnDeck, a small‑business loan provider.

  10. 34:00
    First Major Legal Incident: Mall Theft

    Eduardo narrates a high school-aged theft at a mall, detailing the planning, execution, and subsequent legal repercussions including juvenile court.

  11. 41:30
    Community Service and Jury Duty Experiences

    He shares his experiences with community service, the supportive volunteer, and the challenges of navigating the juvenile justice system through jury duty.

  12. 43:07
    Introduction and Early Troublemaking

    The host introduces the episode and the guest reflects on his rebellious middle school years.

  13. 50:29
    Confronting Authority and Legal Consequences

    He recounts confrontations with teachers and the principal, leading to detentions and a looming threat of expulsion.

  14. 54:30
    Family Dynamics and Drug Money Influence

    The narrative shifts to his brother’s drug dealing, the family’s newfound wealth, and the eventual fallout with law enforcement.

  15. 1:06:37
    Military Aspirations and Recruitment Process

    The guest explains his motivations for joining the military, the ASVAB, and the confusion over roles and options like Ranger and Airborne.

  16. 1:17:40
    Basic Training and Personal Relationships

    He describes the challenges of basic training, the emotional toll of a breakup with a fellow recruit, and the lessons learned about resilience.

  17. 1:24:43
    Dupixent Overview and Safety

    The segment explains what Dupixent is, its uses for asthma patients, and potential side effects and safety precautions.

  18. 1:26:03
    Transition to Military Storytelling

    The conversation shifts from medical topic to a narrative about a soldier’s experience in the U.S. Army, beginning with a dramatic emergency call.

  19. 1:26:34
    Early Army Life and Hazing Rituals

    The speaker recounts arrival at a regiment, initial hazing, and the challenges of adapting to military structure.

  20. 1:40:44
    Ranger School Trials and Peer Dynamics

    The narrative details the rigorous training at Ranger School, including peer boards, leadership struggles, and the psychological toll of repeated failures.

  21. 2:04:06
    Graduation, Tab, and Deployment to Syria

    After overcoming obstacles, the speaker earns the Ranger tab, becomes a mortar team leader, and prepares for deployment to Syria, reflecting on the contrast between training and combat.

  22. 2:07:21
    First Combat Experience in Afghanistan

    The narrator recounts the initial deployment in Afghanistan, describing the logistical challenges and the first mortar attacks on villages.

  23. 2:08:55
    Realization of War’s Human Cost

    After months of indirect fire, the speaker confronts the stark reality of civilian casualties and the moral ambiguity of their actions.

  24. 2:29:24
    Closing Reflections and Future Outlook

    The episode concludes with the host and guest reflecting on the journey, the impact of early choices, and hopes for the future.

  25. 2:34:39
    Leadership Challenges and Team Dynamics

    The narrative shifts to internal squad issues, including a problematic platoon sergeant and the strain of maintaining discipline among troops.

  26. 2:37:34
    Academy Conflict and Rule Infractions

    The narrator describes a conflict with academy leadership over alleged rule infractions and the looming threat of disciplinary action.

  27. 2:44:17
    Personal Struggles with Alcoholism

    The story turns inward as the narrator details how alcohol became a coping mechanism after deployment and the impact on his mental health.

  28. 2:50:54
    Pushup Challenge and Rising Tension

    The narrator recounts a physical challenge with a superior that escalates into a confrontation over discipline and respect.

  29. 2:54:16
    Award Disappointment and Systemic Bias

    The narrator reflects on being denied multiple awards and the manipulation of criteria to prevent one person from receiving all honors.

  30. 2:57:00
    Transition to Iraq and Cultural Adaptation

    The speaker describes the move to Iraq, the training of partner forces, and the cultural differences faced during the deployment.

  31. 3:33:35
    Eduardo’s Emotional Breakdown

    Eduardo describes the daily emotional toll of his long commute and the mental strain of his appointments.

Highlights

  • 5:40

    A Childhood Memory With Fatherstory

    Recalling an early memory where the guest tried to retrieve an object using rope around his neck, and his normally strict father reacted with emotional warmth and a hug instead of anger.

  • 17:43

    Analytical Middle School Fightingstrategy

    The guest explains his tactical approach to middle school fights, where he studied opponents' stances and delivered a heavy first punch before being separated.

  • 1:11:40

    Signing Up for the Armystory

    After a brief misunderstanding at the Marine recruiter's office regarding the ASVAB test, the guest walked next door to the Army recruiter and accidentally enlisted for infantry via an option forty contract.

  • 2:08:16

    Dropping Mortar Rounds in Syriadata

    During the deployment to Syria, the mortar team routinely provided heavy indirect fire support, dropping up to a hundred rounds a day on identified targets.

  • 2:15:53

    Friendly Fire Incidentstory

    The guest recounts a terrifying moment in Syria when a partner force soldier accidentally fired a live round that passed within two feet of his head.

  • 2:57:40

    Enforcing Traffic Stops as a Rookie Copstrategy

    As a new police officer, the guest aimed to accumulate numerous traffic stops but chose to issue warnings rather than citations, causing friction with department leadership.

  • 3:23:50

    Entering the Psychiatric Wardstory

    Reaching a breaking point with severe alcohol dependency and PTSD, the guest checked himself into a VA medical center psychiatric ward during the holidays.

Quotes

  • “I was just left alone to my own vices and unfortunately I was surrounded with all the wrong people, so I just leaned into that.”
    Unnamed speaker · 2:44
  • “I saw him like actually scared and like sad and he ran, he, he grabbed the rope.”
    Unnamed speaker · 6:33
  • “But I get that community service done with and that that was the the last of my troublemaking in middle school.”
    Unnamed speaker · 43:07
  • “Because that's what they'd ask of me and then I could just go and start flirting with girls, start messing with my friends, et cetera.”
    Unnamed speaker · 44:20
  • “Unfortunately, it was the principal that was our next victim.”
    Unnamed speaker · 46:41
  • “I was like, well, this is why you're fat and ugly, like just immediately counter insult, just because if you're gonna hurt me, I'm gonna hurt you right back.”
    Unnamed speaker · 50:21
  • “The one that hurts me personally the most is they dug up one of uh my dad's.”
    Unnamed speaker · 1:01:30
  • “Do more with less asthma. Ask your asthma specialist about Dupixent by name. Visit dupixent.com or call 1-844-DUPIXENT.”
    Unnamed speaker · 1:25:22
  • “Obviously, there's some things where you just have to do them, you know, obstacle courses, PT tests.”
    Unnamed speaker · 1:26:29
  • “Yeah, it was, it was not pretty. I thought I made it at this point, you know, I thought people were gonna chill the fuck out for for once.”
    Unnamed speaker · 1:27:46
  • OnDeck 0:00–0:23
  • Cash App 28:35–30:15
  • Ghostbed 30:18–31:52
  • Regeneron 31:58–32:48
  • Dupixent 1:24:43–1:25:22
  • OnDeck 1:25:29–1:25:59
  • Patreon 2:03:28–2:03:56
  • Regeneron 2:29:30–2:29:48
  • OnDeck 2:30:44–2:30:48
  • Regeneron 3:31:03–3:31:08
  • OnDeck 3:31:55–3:32:17
  • 911 Nashville 3:32:32–3:32:48

About this episode

Eduardo Garduno recounts his path from a turbulent childhood in Southern California to the 75th Ranger Regiment, with deployments to Afghanistan, Syria, and Iraq and combat against ISIS. He also opens up about his difficult transition out of the military, becoming a police officer, struggles with PTSD and alcohol, and the long road toward recovery and writing his memoir. Follow Eduardo here: https://www.instagram.com/eduardo__garduno/ Today's Sponsors: GhostBed ⬇️ https://www.ghostbed.com/house FOR 10% off! Cash App ⬇️ Download Cash App Today: https://click.cash.app/ui6m/in49dyw5 #CashAppPod As a Cash App partner, I may earn a commission when you sign up for a Cash App account. Cash App is a financial services platform, not a bank. Banking services provided by Cash App’s bank partner(s). Bitcoin services provided by Block, Inc. For additional information, see the Bitcoin disclosures For ad free video and audio and access to live streams... JOIN OUR PATREON! https://www.patreon.com/c/TheTeamHouse To help support the show and for all bonus content including: -live shows and asking guest questions -ad free audio and video -early access to shows -Access to ALL bonus segments with our guests Subscribe to our Patreon! ⬇️ https://www.patreon.com/TheTeamHouse ___________________________________________________ GRAB JACK'S NEW BOOK "THE MOST DANGEROUS MAN" ⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️ https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/803651/the-most-dangerous-man-by-jack-murphy/paperback/ Subscribe to the new EYES ON podcast here:⬇️ https://www.youtube.com/@EyesOnGeopoliticsPod/featured Jack Murphy's book "We Defy: The Lost Chapters of Special Forces History" ⬇️ https://www.amazon.com/We-Defy-Chapters-Special-History-ebook/dp/B0DCGC1N1N/ Or make a one time donation at: ⬇️ https://ko-fi.com/theteamhouse Social Media: ⬇️ The Team House Instagram: https://instagram.com/the.team.house?utm_medium=copy_link The Team House Twitter: https://twitter.com/TheTeamHousePod Jack’s Instagram: https://instagram.com/jackmcmurph?utm_medium=copy_link Jack’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/jackmurphyrgr?s=21 Team House Discord: ⬇️ https://discord.gg/wHFHYM6 "Karl Casey @ White Bat Audio" 00:00 – Start 01:13 – Growing Up Poor in Southern California 09:10 – Early Hatred of Police & Growing Up Around Crime 16:44 – Fighting, Anger & Becoming a Troublemaker 28:02 – Getting Arrested for Shoplifting 37:17 – High School, Rebellion & His Brother’s Drug Business 51:18 – His Brother Gets Busted & Police Raid the Family Home 1:00:20 – Deciding to Join the Military 1:06:20 – Accidentally Signing an Option 40 Contract 1:10:54 – Basic Training, a Dear John Letter & Finding Motivation 1:15:33 – Surviving RASP 1:19:34 – Arriving at 2nd Ranger Battalion 1:27:22 – First Deployment to Afghanistan 1:34:33 – Going to Ranger School 1:41:48 – Recycles, Peer Evaluations & Eight Months at Ranger School 1:53:28 – Finally Earning the Ranger Tab 1:57:29 – Deploying to Syria as a Ranger Team Leader 2:01:22 – Dropping Mortars on ISIS 2:03:14 – When the War Suddenly Became Real 2:07:10 – Javelins, Close Calls & Nearly Getting Shot 2:10:29 – Taking Incoming Mortar Fire in Syria 2:19:09 – Returning Home & Considering Delta Force 2:21:05 – Deployment to Iraq With Delta Force 2:25:36 – Ranger Shenanigans & Getting in Trouble Overseas 2:34:14 – Leaving the Army & Struggling With Alcohol 2:38:15 – Becoming a Police Officer 2:48:05 – PTSD, Police Culture & Trying to Change the System 2:54:37 – Refusing to Give Cops Special Treatment 3:01:18 – His First Police Chase Ends in a Rollover 3:09:09 – Leaving the Police Department 3:11:09 – Recovery, PTSD & Hitting Rock Bottom 3:15:18 – Checking Himself Into a VA Psychiatric Ward 3:20:19 – Intensive Therapy & Searching for Something That Worked 3:21:46 – TMS Treatment & Beginning to Heal 3:23:35 – Writing His Memoir as a Way to Understand His Life 3:24:15 – Marijuana-Induced Psychosis & Another Psychiatric Hospitalization 3:31:41 – Finding a Treatment That Finally Helped 3:32:28 – The Demons Within & Looking Forward 3:33:28 – Closing Thoughts Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-team-house--5960890/support https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-team-house--5960890/support?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rss.

Transcript

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52,408 words · 7 speakers

Speaker names marked are inferred from speaking time and the show’s known hosts — they are not voice-verified.

Topics

  • Nashville
  • mortar
  • ABC
  • North Dakota
  • Hulu
  • CPAP
  • Afghanistan
  • polygraph
  • Celtic Bank
  • California

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