We used to be gamers

We used to be gamers… and honestly, we still kind of are. In this special Standup episode, the crew skips the usual news cycle and just talks games: Terraria obsession, Slay the Spire addiction, Starcraft war stories, Pokémon Go team challenges, and the dangerous temptation of getting “back into it.” Expect chaos, nostalgia, and way too many side quests.

• 0:00Speaker 00

  Welcome to a very special episode of the stand-up. We are gonna have a stand-up that will end when this task of Ralph ends in the background. It's just gonna keep on chugging along and we'll see what it builds at the very end, or this podcast will end before it, or it'll end afterwards. You know, it's just some condition I put on there and we're not really sure.

• 0:21Speaker 00

  Uh, anyways, I'm sorry. This week, we've decided that the news cycle, just not that much fun, you know, going on Twitter. It hasn't been the highlight of my week, so therefore, we're gonna do something a little bit different, non-tech related. What is your favorite video game?

• 0:34Speaker 01

  Or games. I mean, I don't wanna necessarily limit it to just one, cuz that's, that's too hard.

• 0:38Speaker 00

  Yeah, we don't need to do, you know what, actually, honestly, that's usually how we do that, is you can't just give like, hey, what's your favorite thing? And you give like a couple of answers, like, no, what's your favorite? I didn't ask what's like a handful of things, I asked for your favorite.

• 0:49Speaker 01

  Are we picking just one?

• 0:51Speaker 00

  Yeah, favorite, right now. So it doesn't have to be favorite of all time. So this is not like, oh, but Ocarina of Time when I was 10 years old was the most meaningful game I've ever played in my lifetime.

• 0:59Speaker 01

  Alright.

• 1:01Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:02Speaker 01

  Alright, now that I know the rules, that's easier.

• 1:03Speaker 00

  Alright. Now, I know, Vegan, you've traditionally been banned from video games for the last, like, what, decade at this point? But what is your current favorite video game?

• 1:12Speaker 02

  Honestly, I've been playing Terraria alone.

• 1:15Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:16Speaker 01

  Is this why you haven't been responding to my DMs?

• 1:18Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:18Speaker 01

  Okay, alright.

• 1:19Speaker 02

  You're bad at Terraria.

• 1:21Speaker 00

  Is food poisoning Terraria?

• 1:24Speaker 02

  It's just a quick-

• 1:25Speaker 01

  Is food poisoning in the room with us right now? Hold on, what is this game?

• 1:29Speaker 02

  You've never played Terraria?

• 1:30Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:31Speaker 02

  It's 2D Minecraft. It is amazing. It's 2D Minecraft, like, you pick different classes, it is-

• 1:36Speaker 01

  Josh, have you ever played Minecraft?

• 1:37Speaker 03

  Yeah, I hate Minecraft.

• 1:39Speaker 02

  You hate Minecraft?

• 1:40Speaker 00

  Minecraft's the only game that I get motion sick from. It's the only game. There's no other game that I get it because it's, the perspective is a little bit off. All the squares are like this slightly diamond shape, and I've just never been able to get used to it.

• 1:50Speaker 02

  I don't agree with that notch at all.

• 1:52Speaker 00

  It's not notch's fault.

• 1:53Speaker 01

  Oh, install any NPM modules lately?

• 1:57Speaker 00

  Why, yes, I have.

• 1:59Speaker 01

  Sorry, sorry, reference Twitter drama, my bad, my bad, my bad.

• 2:01Speaker 02

  Already back to Twitter drama, teach, come on.

• 2:03Speaker 01

  My apologies, my apologies.

• 2:04Speaker 02

  No, honestly, we should all, I wanted actually, plan a little session with the squad here and play Terraria-

• 2:08Speaker 00

  That would be fun.

• 2:09Speaker 02

  You play hardcore mode, you know, where you die, but it's the classic thing. You dig for materials, you build weapons, you fight bosses, you build worlds.

• 2:16Speaker 00

  But it's all like a platformer.

• 2:18Speaker 01

  Instead of 3D.

• 2:19Speaker 00

  Is it like, is there any like skill in the platforming involved? Or is it really just like, we're digging, we're doing stuff?

• 2:24Speaker 02

  Incredible amounts of skill, incredible.

• 2:26Speaker 01

  Probably you wouldn't be able to do it.

• 2:28Speaker 02

  Honestly, Prime.

• 2:28Speaker 01

  I know that won't work, but.

• 2:29Speaker 02

  Well, also there, there is an entire, someone built a 32 bit computer in Terraria, which, guys, there's actually a video of Prime reacting that two years ago.

• 2:36Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah.

• 2:37Speaker 02

  Yeah, so you can build, someone built a 32 bit computer in this video game, because they actually give you all the gates.

• 2:43Speaker 01

  Is it Terry complete?

• 2:43Speaker 02

  Yes, 100%.

• 2:44Speaker 00

  No, they built a computer that's not Terry complete.

• 2:48Speaker 03

  Well, well, I was getting at like, does it actually work? I was getting at, does it actually work?

• 2:53Speaker 01

  Great question, Trash, great question.

• 2:54Speaker 02

  No, Trash, they made it a little easier. They literally were like, cool, here's wires in every single gate. They just, they literally were like, here's assembly. So it's, it's even, it's really, really easy. Also, I've been using, this is crazy, but I've been using ChatGPT to design Terraria circuit designs for me. Excellent.

• 3:11Speaker 00

  Is it actually good at it?

• 3:12Speaker 01

  Oh, I believe that.

• 3:13Speaker 02

  It literally prints out exactly the schematic. You tell it what it wants, you tell it how you want it to evolve. It's really, literally, the first one worked right away, and I've been going further. So if you want to build, so they he built 32 bit computers, so I'm working on a 33 bit computer.

• 3:27Speaker 01

  Damn.

• 3:28Speaker 02

  One up him, so, yes.

• 3:30Speaker 00

  I, I don't even know what that means, but, uh.

• 3:32Speaker 01

  Well, it has 33 bits.

• 3:33Speaker 02

  It's one more bit, Prime.

• 3:34Speaker 01

  I have to say, just because people haven't been following us around all week. My favorite thing so far was we were talking to Josh about 32 bit float sound.

• 3:43Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 3:43Speaker 01

  And then I made the joke, I was like, oh, well, I prefer 64, it has double as many, and you just acted like that made sense.

• 3:50Speaker 02

  I, okay, so 32 times 64 is not, you're still, you keep laughing again, 32 times two.

• 3:56Speaker 01

  32 times two is 64, yeah, that was.

• 3:58Speaker 03

  Yep, you keep doubling it.

• 3:59Speaker 01

  Right.

• 4:00Speaker 02

  So why am I wrong?

• 4:01Speaker 00

  No, no, no, 32 times two is 33.

• 4:04Speaker 01

  Great point, thank you.

• 4:06Speaker 00

  It is 33.

• 4:06Speaker 02

  Yes, okay, okay, a little Terrence Howard math, okay, down for that, okay.

• 4:10Speaker 00

  Hey, for every action, there's a reaction.

• 4:13Speaker 01

  Hey, guys, look up exponents in your free time if you forgot it from like, 4th and 5th grade.

• 4:17Speaker 00

  Hey, is that HTTP? Get that out of here, that's not how we order coffee, we order coffee via ssh terminal.shop. Yeah, you want a real experience? You want real coffee? You want awesome subscriptions so you never have to remember again? Oh, you want exclusive blends with exclusive coffee? And exclusive content? Then check out Kron. You don't know what SSH is? Well, maybe the coffee's not for you.

• 4:51Speaker 01

  So Terraria though.

• 4:52Speaker 02

  Yeah, Terraria is mine. I think honestly, I'm excited. I'm actually gonna do a little programming in Terraria this year and I'm trying to also convince, also you guys kept me saying Terraria, it's Terraria.

• 5:00Speaker 01

  Terraria.

• 5:01Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 5:01Speaker 02

  You're trying to convince me to do it. I'm trying to convince everyone, I'm trying to convince Prime to play.

• 5:05Speaker 01

  Can we pause? You're saying you knew it if he said Terraria, but you didn't know it if he said Terraria.

• 5:08Speaker 02

  No, well, I tried to look it up and I Googled Terraria. It brought up like a bunch of plants and I was like, alright, I don't know the game. I play a plant game where I make virtual terrariums.

• 5:19Speaker 00

  By the way, Ralphson is gone.

• 5:20Speaker 02

  Oh, okay, great podcast.

• 5:23Speaker 00

  37 seconds, great podcast, everybody.

• 5:25Speaker 02

  We didn't even acknowledge.

• 5:26Speaker 00

  I love Galactus, I'm very happy here. No, but seriously, with Terraria, can you, uh, can you do like plugins so we could say plug in a server?

• 5:33Speaker 02

  Like mods?

• 5:33Speaker 00

  And serve something off of, like, serve something off of it and do all of our programming in Terraria?

• 5:39Speaker 02

  So, we've got, okay, that's not how I, good news, good news and bad news, okay?

• 5:45Speaker 00

  Actually?

• 5:45Speaker 02

  You can't, good news and bad news, you can do mods. Bad news, you have to do it in C sharp. That's fine.

• 5:51Speaker 00

  There's something called Chad Gippity that can write great C sharp for me, so I'll never have to learn it.

• 5:55Speaker 02

  Oh, I didn't know, I didn't know it knew C sharp yet, that's awesome.

• 5:58Speaker 00

  That Microsoft, remember, the whole Microsoft OpenAI?

• 6:00Speaker 02

  That's where they bought it, okay.

• 6:02Speaker 01

  They've been preceding it with C sharp knowledge this whole time.

• 6:06Speaker 02

  You can definitely mod it. Play us for fools.

• 6:08Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 6:09Speaker 02

  And I also do think I've looked at some of the mods, I think everyone out there are like video game players who are modding it, they haven't had like, like clinically insane programmers modded yet, so I think we're gonna take it to a pretty good level this year, so.

• 6:18Speaker 01

  Okay, I like that.

• 6:19Speaker 00

  I would be, I'd be, okay, so with that, with that in mind, this being your favorite game right now, I would be down to do like a week, like what can you build in one week?

• 6:29Speaker 01

  Wait, so it's whatever game we pick Prime has to play for a week?

• 6:32Speaker 00

  No, that's not what we're doing.

• 6:33Speaker 01

  Okay, I was just wondering, because I was thinking, have I changed my answer?

• 6:37Speaker 00

  To anime girl feet pics? No, I don't think so.

• 6:40Speaker 01

  No, I was gonna pick, I'd have to think about it more, but I didn't know that was on the table, I was just recalculating.

• 6:44Speaker 00

  Well, I've just seen her listen to this and this seems like we could do a lot of cool stuff with it.

• 6:47Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 6:48Speaker 00

  And so it's just like, okay, well, we have Twitch chat, we have YouTube chat.

• 6:51Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 6:51Speaker 00

  We have a week, what if we all sat down and said, what are we building? Can you save Terraria games to get, can we find a way to do version?

• 7:01Speaker 01

  With code, all things are possible.

• 7:02Speaker 02

  With, through code, all things are possible.

• 7:03Speaker 01

  That's true.

• 7:04Speaker 00

  Except for traveling salesman.

• 7:06Speaker 01

  You could still do it, we just don't know how to solve it efficiently.

• 7:09Speaker 00

  Okay, a tough guy.

• 7:11Speaker 01

  Sometimes.

• 7:12Speaker 00

  Is that even, is that even, is that even considered solve if you can never actually see the answer? Is a problem ever solved if no one sees the answer?

• 7:20Speaker 02

  Okay, now we're getting into philosophy.

• 7:22Speaker 01

  That's next week's podcast.

• 7:23Speaker 02

  That is gonna be a great podcast next week.

• 7:25Speaker 01

  Alright, Prime, what's your favorite game?

• 7:27Speaker 00

  Uh, right now, my favorite game has been Slay the Spire. It's been Slay the Spire for the last six months. It's the only like, uh, it's the only outlet that I currently have that is non-programming right now or family related.

• 7:39Speaker 02

  Can I be honest, the reason why he's addicted to Slay the Spire is because it's on his phone. We could get him like on Candy Crush, it's so easy and he would be so addicted.

• 7:46Speaker 00

  I have, no, first off, I can't because Candy Crush is too much luck. I hate Candy Crush. I, I, I hate it with a passion.

• 7:52Speaker 01

  That's what a noob would say.

• 7:52Speaker 02

  Candy Crush is luck.

• 7:54Speaker 00

  I played it like 10 years ago. Yeah, I played it 10 years ago. It was very, very frustrating, but the reason why is that-

• 7:59Speaker 02

  Candy Crush was very frustrating? There's a thousand grandmas and moms playing it all day.

• 8:03Speaker 00

  That's because, okay, I'm gonna say something that's gonna sound really mean now, but I'm just gonna say-

• 8:08Speaker 01

  We're starting drama even without Twitter.

• 8:09Speaker 00

  I think that you have to have not a lot going on upstairs to enjoy Candy Crush, okay? That's what I'm saying. It's a, it's a toilet game. It's a toilet mindless game. It's a toilet mind game.

• 8:19Speaker 02

  Wait, wait, wait, so you guys play mindless games in the toilet? That's when I do my best thinking. I do my most, I do challenging video games in the toilet.

• 8:24Speaker 00

  Such as, such as.

• 8:26Speaker 02

  I like to usually pick my civilization next turn on there, because usually, right now where I'm at, it takes me 20 to 30 minutes to exactly choose what to do over my whole turn, so usually I can get out one turn when I'm in there. Why are you laughing at that?

• 8:39Speaker 01

  Uh, you would be the absolute worst person to play Civ with.

• 8:44Speaker 02

  Okay, first of all, I play Civ a lot. It's one of my other favorite games and I'm really good at it.

• 8:49Speaker 01

  With humans or with computers?

• 8:50Speaker 02

  Okay, I don't play a lot of other humans.

• 8:53Speaker 00

  Just like Terraria.

• 8:54Speaker 01

  He gets, strikes me as the one guy who like, when it's his turn, everyone gets up and makes snacks.

• 8:59Speaker 00

  Yes, yes, you would also be horrible to play Catan with.

• 9:02Speaker 02

  Okay, stop saying I'm horrible to play Catan.

• 9:04Speaker 01

  Hey guys, hey guys, hey guys, hey guys.

• 9:05Speaker 00

  Big it, no one likes it.

• 9:05Speaker 01

  I need logs. Everyone's like, we don't have logs. No, no, no, no, no, I need logs.

• 9:09Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 9:09Speaker 01

  I need logs.

• 9:10Speaker 00

  I need him now.

• 9:11Speaker 01

  I need logs. He won't let his turn end until someone trades and logs.

• 9:15Speaker 00

  I know one of you guys have logs. I know, I know a six was rolled last round. Give me your log.

• 9:19Speaker 02

  Alright, so I know I'm gonna get myself.

• 9:20Speaker 01

  CJ, you have three logs, Prime. I know you have one log left.

• 9:23Speaker 03

  He's card counting.

• 9:23Speaker 02

  I know I'm gonna get in more trouble for this, but I did convince Lindsay to play a couple of games of Match of the Gathering with me.

• 9:28Speaker 01

  Yup.

• 9:28Speaker 02

  But the style of Match of the Gathering I've been working on is how to build like little computers and infinite loops in it. She was not happy with it. So you can build little infi- actual infinite loops. Like there's four card infinite loop, two card infinite loops. So that's my goal. And then so when I'm playing with her, it's like, okay, your turn. Good. We're teaching you. Fantastic. Now for my turn.

• 9:47Speaker 01

  Forty-five minutes later.

• 9:48Speaker 02

  A hundred percent. And so she, she quit. She won't play with me anymore.

• 9:53Speaker 00

  Who could have saw that coming? I just can't even believe this.

• 9:55Speaker 02

  I'm like, aren't you impressed? Aren't you proud of me?

• 9:58Speaker 01

  Look at, I'm a computer scientist, honey.

• 10:01Speaker 02

  Look what I've done.

• 10:02Speaker 03

  Is it like draw four cards and then you kind of just keep?

• 10:04Speaker 02

  Yeah, it'll be something like every time you draw a card, uh, you know, you're able to discard a card. Every time you discard a card, you're able to add an extra guy. Every extra guy you have, you can draw a card. Uh-oh, we're in a loop. I also do this online and I have, I mean, a lot of people have done this before, but I crash the, uh, Match of the Gathering arena often when I get.

• 10:23Speaker 01

  On purpose. That is the, that is the point of the game he's playing.

• 10:27Speaker 00

  How many, how many cards does it take? How many times around this loop does it take for it to crash?

• 10:33Speaker 02

  Oh, for those ones? Well, those first, it was one turn, but I might, I might have something like.

• 10:38Speaker 00

  I mean, the loop of like discard a card, get a guy, be able to get a new card.

• 10:43Speaker 02

  Maybe like seventy, seventy times, but it's not just about like the loop. It's about what you're gathering. Cause each time I make things more and more. So I, I'll, I'd have things where it's like, every time I make a new food, it makes a new squirrel. Every new squirrel I make makes a new rat. And then I say, all times I make any token, double it.

• 10:58Speaker 01

  Sounds like science.

• 10:59Speaker 03

  I have no idea what you're saying.

• 11:00Speaker 02

  So then, so yeah, so then it's like when I'm doing this loop, I go one loop around, two pieces of bread, two squirrels, two rats, one more around, two pieces of squirrel, two breads, two rats. And I just keep doing that.

• 11:09Speaker 01

  But do they grow times or addition?

• 11:11Speaker 00

  Yeah, I was about to say, cause seventy times that is a hundred and forty.

• 11:14Speaker 02

  No, no, there's, there's, there's exponential ways. There's other exponential ways. There's ways of saying, take whatever the highest attack power is in. It to all of your creatures.

• 11:23Speaker 01

  Right.

• 11:24Speaker 02

  So that means what's gonna happen, right? It's gonna move up.

• 11:26Speaker 01

  Double and then double and then double and double, right?

• 11:28Speaker 02

  Exactly.

• 11:28Speaker 01

  It's a times two malt.

• 11:29Speaker 02

  So I got really excited about this and then I got on the internet like I'm gonna make some friends who play magic. And then it was a thousand threads of on Reddit of people like, I won't play with these guys. Anyone who's into doubling and doubling tokens, they're the worst. And I was like, I, I, I thought I found this on my own and I thought I, I didn't know.

• 11:44Speaker 00

  It's shocking that vegan went and played magic, figured out a strategy that makes people not want to be his friends. Okay, then he sounds like social network right now.

• 11:51Speaker 03

  The most unlikely guy ever.

• 11:54Speaker 02

  Trash, we gotta get you over to magic. Pokemon ain't the way, okay? We're gonna get you converted.

• 11:57Speaker 00

  But no, no, you don't play Pokemon.

• 11:59Speaker 02

  Yes, you do play Pokemon.

• 12:00Speaker 00

  No, no, you, you, no, see, you see what he just said there? He holds on to Pokemon. There's a vast difference between playing.

• 12:07Speaker 01

  Well, I think Trash, you would be doing the same thing if you were into magic, right? You'd just be holding cards? Is that the, is that the joy of it for you?

• 12:12Speaker 03

  I just like to collect them.

• 12:14Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, right. That's what I'm saying.

• 12:15Speaker 00

  That's why he does Pokemon.

• 12:16Speaker 02

  What's the value of collecting them if you don't play with them?

• 12:18Speaker 03

  I like to look at them.

• 12:19Speaker 02

  So are you the guy that?

• 12:20Speaker 03

  Oh, really? My wolf will catch me in my office and I'm just staring at my seal collection. I'm just like, so cool.

• 12:25Speaker 02

  So when you make a Lego, do you just put it on the shelf? You're just done. You make a Lego, you put it on the shelf?

• 12:30Speaker 03

  Well, I also, I rip it. So I have like a seal collection and I rip it.

• 12:33Speaker 02

  No, when you put a Lego together, some people put it on a shelf.

• 12:36Speaker 00

  You put Legos together. Lego would be the company.

• 12:39Speaker 02

  No, no, each set is a Lego. Legos make a Lego.

• 12:42Speaker 01

  He's not gonna understand. The circuits aren't gonna connect there.

• 12:46Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 12:47Speaker 03

  I, I don't understand.

• 12:48Speaker 00

  This is why he gets the infinite loops in magic right here.

• 12:51Speaker 02

  But I'm saying there's two types of people. There's people, when you, when you make a Lego set, is that better? You just let it sit. Other people like myself, I will make a little spaceship and then I go like this.

• 13:03Speaker 02

  That's like the fun of the Legos is after you build it going, not, it's appreciating in value on my shelf. Check the eBay price. That's what you do?

• 13:12Speaker 03

  Well, I'm not gonna sell. I have no intent of selling, at least now, but I like to just look at them.

• 13:17Speaker 00

  All right, so back to Slay the Spire. As a thing that I really, really like. I like Slay the Spire because I keep losing at it regularly. And I feel like I should be better than, eh, better than TJ. But TJ's Ascension 19 on this guy. It makes me very angry that TJ's Ascension 19.

• 13:34Speaker 01

  It's a high IQ game.

• 13:35Speaker 00

  So normally I played Ironclad and I think I got up to 10 or 11 on my last phone. And this phone, I'm back down to 6.

• 13:41Speaker 01

  It doesn't sync between them?

• 13:43Speaker 00

  I don't know why. I'm signed into the same Google thing.

• 13:45Speaker 02

  We don't have that technology. It was lost.

• 13:46Speaker 00

  It was lost, TJ. Ever since COVID, we lost the ability to sync between phones.

• 13:50Speaker 01

  We can't, we don't know what's syncing between devices. My, what's your Google, eh, like little handle that it generated for you?

• 13:57Speaker 00

  I don't know, but it has a guy with a top hat and that's all I know. And I'm not going to say the email that it's associated with.

• 14:02Speaker 01

  Mine is like Correlius Jelly and it makes me laugh every time. I don't know exactly what it is. I've never seen all of the letters closely enough. You can't choose the username? I think you can, but I just let it pick one.

• 14:12Speaker 00

  It goes ding.

• 14:13Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 14:14Speaker 00

  And then it goes away. So yeah, I probably have some funny name like that.

• 14:16Speaker 01

  Mine's like Correlius Jelly and it makes me laugh every time. You just log in? Yeah, exactly.

• 14:21Speaker 02

  Wait, Prime, do you only play Slay on your phone?

• 14:23Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's the only game. I tried to, okay, so I did download Clash Royale so I could play with my kids. And then I played for a little bit and I just went, man, this game's kind of stupid. And I just don't want to play it because I don't like any kind of like buy to win games. And it definitely has a lot of buy to win mechanics in there.

• 14:39Speaker 01

  You gotta play, you gotta play for a long time.

• 14:41Speaker 00

  Either you're grinding time or dollars. And I was just like, I don't really want to do either, so.

• 14:45Speaker 02

  Wait, TJ, when you play Slay the Spire, do you play on your phone? Do you play on your computer?

• 14:48Speaker 01

  Mostly on my computer. A little bit on my phone, though.

• 14:51Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 14:51Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 14:51Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 14:51Speaker 01

  My computer's higher. My computer's my like further.

• 14:54Speaker 02

  I just feel like I play so much better when I'm on my computer.

• 14:57Speaker 01

  I like being able to press 1, 2, 3, 4, 5.

• 14:59Speaker 02

  A hundred percent.

• 15:00Speaker 01

  Yeah, I agree.

• 15:00Speaker 02

  Well, I also just like focus a little more.

• 15:02Speaker 00

  This feels good.

• 15:03Speaker 01

  But I have the dumb thing where it's like when you swipe from the bottom of the phone, that's what makes it go to like show all your apps.

• 15:08Speaker 00

  Oh, yes, yes, yes.

• 15:09Speaker 01

  Cause I don't like the buttons. Cause I like the like, oh my god.

• 15:12Speaker 00

  I live on the, I live on the buttons. I live on the buttons.

• 15:14Speaker 01

  I like that I have approximately 0.25 more inches of screen real estate for absolutely no reason on the bottom by making the buttons go away. So then I like the gestures.

• 15:24Speaker 00

  I don't like how big you exaggerated that.

• 15:27Speaker 01

  Is it not, how much do you think it is?

• 15:28Speaker 00

  Well, considering they're that big, um, I would say like a centimeter.

• 15:34Speaker 01

  That's pretty close to 0.25.

• 15:36Speaker 00

  Oh, I thought you said 2.5.

• 15:38Speaker 02

  This is America. Don't be talking about those centimeters.

• 15:40Speaker 01

  We don't believe in those here. What's a centimeter?

• 15:41Speaker 02

  What's a centimeter?

• 15:42Speaker 01

  How are you comparing inches to centimeters anyways? They don't convert.

• 15:44Speaker 02

  That's like apples to oranges, like.

• 15:46Speaker 01

  Thank you. Finally, someone who understands.

• 15:48Speaker 02

  Alright Trash.

• 15:49Speaker 01

  Trash, what's your game right now?

• 15:50Speaker 02

  What about you?

• 15:50Speaker 00

  Hit me Trash.

• 15:51Speaker 03

  You know we didn't even acknowledge that we're live together in person?

• 15:55Speaker 01

  Great point Trash, we're live together in person.

• 15:57Speaker 03

  Did you know that?

• 15:58Speaker 02

  I didn't realize.

• 15:58Speaker 03

  Missed that in the intro. Someone call it up?

• 16:00Speaker 01

  Trash, Trash, Trash. Do the intro and we'll put it at the beginning.

• 16:03Speaker 03

  I'm the worst intro, no.

• 16:04Speaker 00

  I, I do wanna-

• 16:06Speaker 03

  Just cut me in there.

• 16:06Speaker 00

  I just, one thing I am a little bit shocked about is the fact that you showed up to this really nice place with this, this really nice studio in a Tostitos sweater.

• 16:15Speaker 01

  Honest, it's such a sick sweater.

• 16:16Speaker 03

  Snacking today, boys.

• 16:17Speaker 01

  I'm taking it home after we're done.

• 16:19Speaker 02

  Also-

• 16:19Speaker 03

  Aso dip?

• 16:20Speaker 02

  I cannot believe that they sponsored Trash Dev. I cannot believe, like, I've not seen them sponsor many people.

• 16:25Speaker 01

  What's crazy, we can't turn around because he's plugged in. But it literally says Trash Dev on the back because it's his jersey-

• 16:30Speaker 02

  With his jersey number.

• 16:31Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's his jersey number.

• 16:33Speaker 00

  That's pretty good, that's pretty good to see.

• 16:35Speaker 03

  Please sponsor me, somebody!

• 16:38Speaker 01

  In the middle Trash?

• 16:39Speaker 03

  Just want free snacks.

• 16:40Speaker 00

  Wait, what?

• 16:40Speaker 01

  Don't you think it looks like two people and then they got like a kid with them or something?

• 16:43Speaker 02

  That's the act-

• 16:44Speaker 03

  They're like holding hands.

• 16:45Speaker 01

  Two people and they're dipping a chip into salsa?

• 16:47Speaker 02

  Yes, that is the logo.

• 16:48Speaker 03

  Well, I was thinking that was the kid.

• 16:49Speaker 00

  Wait, hold on, that's the, that is the logo, so it's two people?

• 16:52Speaker 02

  It's two people sharing a chip dipping it into the red salsa.

• 16:56Speaker 03

  Whoa.

• 16:56Speaker 00

  My mind is so blown that two people would share a chip. Like, out of all things to do, that just feels-

• 17:02Speaker 02

  You've never shared a chip with your wife?

• 17:04Speaker 00

  No, that's disgusting.

• 17:05Speaker 03

  Why would you, why would you hold the same chip anyways and dip it together?

• 17:08Speaker 02

  It's romantic.

• 17:10Speaker 01

  You've seen Lady and the Tramp?

• 17:11Speaker 03

  Lady and the Tramp with a noodle?

• 17:12Speaker 00

  Yeah, but you-

• 17:12Speaker 03

  It's not the same thing, at all.

• 17:14Speaker 00

  You can't hold on it at all, it snaps, snaps like a little wishbone.

• 17:16Speaker 01

  Different cultures have different things that they like to share, so it's fine.

• 17:19Speaker 02

  Yeah, what do you, what do you want?

• 17:20Speaker 01

  For me, it's chips.

• 17:21Speaker 00

  You're calling yourself a different culture?

• 17:23Speaker 01

  Yeah, we share the chip. I'm not a dog.

• 17:26Speaker 02

  He is from the Midwest, that's a totally different culture.

• 17:28Speaker 01

  And they're a very, they're in what, New York, in Lady and the Tramp?

• 17:31Speaker 02

  Yeah, exactly.

• 17:32Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 17:33Speaker 03

  I was like, are they? I don't even remember the movie.

• 17:34Speaker 02

  Yeah, we're doing a little, we're gonna watch it after.

• 17:36Speaker 01

  They share, they share a noodle in that one Trash.

• 17:38Speaker 03

  My mind is blown that there's two people-

• 17:39Speaker 00

  I know, this is shocking.

• 17:41Speaker 03

  Are you sure? Like, that's, that's, that's like actually-

• 17:43Speaker 01

  It has, I don't, I mean, I didn't ask anybody from Tostitos before I made the claim, but I'm pretty sure.

• 17:48Speaker 02

  No, yeah, it's true.

• 17:48Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 17:49Speaker 03

  Tostitos, leave a comment, let us know.

• 17:51Speaker 01

  Tostitos sponsored this man, he loves you even more now.

• 17:54Speaker 03

  I know, please.

• 17:54Speaker 00

  Sponsor him.

• 17:55Speaker 02

  He, he definitely does shill Tostitos off camera. Yeah, sometimes we're like, okay dude, we got it.

• 18:00Speaker 03

  I actually don't like Tostitos at all.

• 18:01Speaker 02

  Okay, okay, okay, now we just, we just, we were this close.

• 18:05Speaker 01

  Trash.

• 18:06Speaker 02

  We almost had him.

• 18:07Speaker 00

  Almost got our first snack.

• 18:08Speaker 01

  Surely-

• 18:09Speaker 03

  I'll do the dip, but that's all I care about.

• 18:11Speaker 01

  They've, that's what I've, they've, they have such a wide range.

• 18:15Speaker 03

  I'm just kidding.

• 18:15Speaker 01

  Something must appeal to you, Trash.

• 18:17Speaker 00

  There's lime.

• 18:18Speaker 03

  Oh no, ew, you like that?

• 18:21Speaker 02

  Wait, have you had them?

• 18:22Speaker 00

  Scoops with the salsa.

• 18:23Speaker 01

  I do love scoops.

• 18:24Speaker 03

  Scoops are pretty good.

• 18:25Speaker 02

  Got him.

• 18:25Speaker 01

  He's back.

• 18:26Speaker 02

  We're back. We're back.

• 18:28Speaker 00

  Dude, we just sold a hater.

• 18:29Speaker 03

  Yeah, scoops are convenient.

• 18:31Speaker 00

  But here's the deal, Trash, like, if we're gonna be out here trying to sling you some sponsors, like, you can't just torpedo the first one we're getting you because it really makes it hard for any followers.

• 18:38Speaker 02

  We're alley-ooping you.

• 18:39Speaker 01

  It's just like when Mark Zuckerberg followed him around in New York and kept going

• 18:46Speaker 01

  at every meeting. Because we've watched the social networks who are pretty much experts.

• 18:49Speaker 02

  Yeah, there's gonna be a lot of social network references.

• 18:51Speaker 03

  I had no idea what you were talking about, I was like, what?

• 18:53Speaker 00

  I am very into the social network right now.

• 18:56Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 18:57Speaker 03

  Okay, so back to my favorite game.

• 18:58Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 18:58Speaker 03

  So I don't really game much anymore.

• 19:00Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 19:01Speaker 03

  The only game I do have is on my phone is Pokemon Go, obviously.

• 19:04Speaker 02

  You're still playing Pokemon Go?

• 19:05Speaker 03

  Yes, actually I have a team challenge I need to complete, so I'm gonna work on that afterwards.

• 19:09Speaker 02

  Wait, you have a team?

• 19:10Speaker 00

  Okay, well, I have never actually played Pokemon Go. What does that mean to have a team challenge and how does one complete it?

• 19:14Speaker 03

  I don't know, it's kinda new. You just kinda like work, like, for instance, you can have a group of your friends and you have to catch like 100 Pokemon in a week. That would be like an example.

• 19:22Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 19:23Speaker 02

  How'd you find your team?

• 19:24Speaker 03

  Just friends.

• 19:25Speaker 00

  That's like...

• 19:25Speaker 02

  How'd you find your friends?

• 19:26Speaker 01

  Based?

• 19:27Speaker 03

  Online.

• 19:28Speaker 02

  Okay, what websites?

• 19:32Speaker 03

  Because like, I need, I need more people to play.

• 19:34Speaker 02

  Do you have any tips and tricks?

• 19:36Speaker 03

  How can I be normal in these groups so people play with me?

• 19:39Speaker 00

  I'm a little bit shocked that the goal is like, catch 100 Pokemon, because it kinda sounds like World of Warcraft, where it's like, you get to the next spot and they're just like, "Hey, go get 20 feathers for me." It's just like, it's just like a grind.

• 19:50Speaker 03

  Mindless grinding.

• 19:51Speaker 01

  What else can you do in Pokemon Go besides catch Pokemon?

• 19:53Speaker 03

  You can like raid with your friends.

• 19:55Speaker 00

  What does raiding mean?

• 19:57Speaker 03

  I don't know, because I don't raid.

• 19:59Speaker 01

  So you just catch them?

• 20:00Speaker 03

  But I think, I think, I think you literally just like, you guys attack some gem together?

• 20:03Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 20:04Speaker 01

  Okay, sick.

• 20:05Speaker 03

  And that's like about all I know.

• 20:06Speaker 00

  Yeah, okay, hold on, so you...

• 20:07Speaker 03

  No, no, no, let's, let's stop Pokemon Go, my favorite game is StarCraft.

• 20:10Speaker 00

  Oh, StarCraft, one or two? Part of the Swarm or Legacy of the Void?

• 20:15Speaker 01

  Also, as a quick aside, when are we doing the RTS 1v1v1v1? Four different RTSs, because that's what we need to do.

• 20:22Speaker 03

  Yeah, that's true.

• 20:23Speaker 01

  Come back to that later.

• 20:23Speaker 03

  Well, the latest one would be Wings of Liberty, StarCraft 2. That's probably the last time I played.

• 20:27Speaker 00

  Wait, wait, wait, no, no, it's Legacy of the Void, isn't it?

• 20:30Speaker 03

  That's like, that's like, that's like later. Wings of Liberty was like when StarCraft 2 first came out.

• 20:35Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's what I mean, so Wings of Liberty is...

• 20:36Speaker 03

  I didn't even make it to Legacy of the Void.

• 20:38Speaker 01

  He's saying the latest one he played.

• 20:39Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah. Part of the Swarm, so good.

• 20:42Speaker 03

  Is that like the one right after that? I don't even remember.

• 20:44Speaker 00

  You don't even know how good it is.

• 20:46Speaker 01

  Trash, what do you play? Yeah, what do you play?

• 20:47Speaker 03

  So, I'm a Zerg player and, um, high masters. Top 25 masters, almost a grand masters.

• 20:54Speaker 01

  Really? Okay, Trash.

• 20:57Speaker 03

  I'm not gonna lie, like, so when Twitch was like Justin.tv, that's when I was playing, like, trying to like, I'm gonna get a... I'm gonna get a following.

• 21:02Speaker 00

  Wait, hold on, you were actually masters in 2000?

• 21:04Speaker 03

  It was like 2012? Something like that.

• 21:07Speaker 00

  Those were the hard days, those were the hard days to be masters.

• 21:09Speaker 03

  Ooh, I was hardcore, we had LAN parties at my house.

• 21:11Speaker 01

  Although today it's probably also hard, because like, the only people still playing. Incredible pros. They've been playing for 20 years. Right, yes, they've memorized everything.

• 21:18Speaker 03

  They used to go like, local tournaments, get beat by 10-year-olds, get really mad. You know?

• 21:23Speaker 00

  Alright, so then what was...

• 21:24Speaker 01

  And that's when he started jujitsu.

• 21:25Speaker 03

  That's like when I stopped playing, I was like, I was like, I can't believe I just lost to this kid with no job. Of course he won, of course he won.

• 21:31Speaker 00

  What was your, what was your build? What was your, like, your go-tos?

• 21:33Speaker 03

  Uh, depends, so I mean, when you want, even you get to the big leagues, you gotta scout, you gotta see what they're doing. You know what I'm saying?

• 21:39Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 21:39Speaker 03

  And then you do, you do whatever, you just counter whatever their plan is.

• 21:43Speaker 00

  Okay, so you only countered, you never aggressed your own strategy?

• 21:46Speaker 03

  I mean, there's like a standard, there's like a standard, like, default thing, where, I don't remember like, the formula, but it's like... At like 9, you overlord, at 12, spawning pool. And then it's like, kind of like, cookie cutter for the first 10 minutes, and then you just kind of depend on scouting. So it's like how you would usually open up, uh... Yeah, man, it's- What's your favorite unit, Trash? My unit, the roach. Okay. So it's called a roach, and then you can like, you can burrow them, and then when you burrow them, they heal, so then you can do this thing where like- Do you have to be on your like, on the goop to heal, or does it heal anywhere you- No, as long as you, as long as you're on like, the uh, the creep, I think they call it creep. Yeah, that's what I meant. Yeah, so if you're on the creep, you move faster and you heal faster, I believe. Okay. So like, you have to use your queens and spread the creep. Yeah.

• 22:26Speaker 03

  But yeah, I was like, I was like, I've always been into like, like even with movies, I like war movies, I like the strategy between, like about warfare and- You know what I'm saying? So- Yeah, I know what you're saying. So like, in my mind, I'm like, actually in this battle, and I'm like, you know, I need a, I need to like flank from over here, have a distraction over here, and it like really just consume me. And man, I just, I just try to take it as far, like, I'm like really obsessive, but once I get into something, I try to be-

• 22:48Speaker 01

  The Pokemon guy.

• 22:49Speaker 02

  We've seen-

• 22:49Speaker 03

  Welcome to, you're in the right group, okay? Yeah, it's true, yeah. It's like, it's like, it's like I just like, it's like my life becomes that, like, like, the Pokemon like, episode I'm in right now is very much like-

• 22:59Speaker 02

  I like how you call it episode.

• 23:00Speaker 01

  I, also calling it a Pokemon episode is sick.

• 23:03Speaker 02

  The other way you can do it, start calling it an arc.

• 23:05Speaker 03

  And, and, and to be honest, this is also uh, why I started using Vim, so- Oh yeah, it's the ultimate RTS editor. Exactly, so-

• 23:13Speaker 01

  It's Starcraft for programming.

• 23:14Speaker 03

  Yeah, exactly, that's exactly how I feel, so when I first started using Vim, before like I even got on Twitch and figured out there was like cults and stuff, and like- Yeah. Big followings, I was like, oh my goodness.

• 23:21Speaker 02

  There's no cults.

• 23:23Speaker 03

  It's not a cult. But before that, like, when I'm coding, I'm just like, oh man, I feel like I'm playing Starcraft, and it was just like so exhilarating, I'm just like- Even if I'm just like mindlessly doing stuff, like, I don't know.

• 23:31Speaker 02

  What's your top APS?

• 23:33Speaker 03

  APM? Yeah, I don't-

• 23:34Speaker 02

  Oh, you measure an M? Ooh, he's slow. Ooh, he's slow, he's slow.

• 23:38Speaker 03

  In the actual like Starcraft game, like couple hundred, like as a Zerg player, that's like normal, cause you're just mindfully spamming.

• 23:45Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 23:46Speaker 03

  But if you're like Protoss or Terran, it's a lot lower, cause those are- Oh, that's Terran's a lot of fucking- Yeah, Terran, Terran is so hard, like, as a Zerg player, Terran's like the worst person to play against, so I was like, I'm gonna start, I'm gonna become a Terran player, but man, you have to like, your brain, you have to split your brain into like five different- Yeah, Terran's the worst. Battlefronts at the- Terran's the only race I can't play, like, you know? Yeah, it's insane, like, there's definitely like a, a cap of what your brain can just handle at one time, and then if you can't get past that like limit, then you won't progress in Starcraft, cause you have to be able to do like six things at one time.

• 24:16Speaker 02

  So I, I think we might have to have a little Starcraft tournament, we have to have one stipulation, okay? We have to only play it on N64.

• 24:24Speaker 03

  What?

• 24:24Speaker 02

  You know it's out on, you know it came out on N64.

• 24:27Speaker 03

  Did it really?

• 24:27Speaker 02

  So you have to play with an N64 controller. Can you imagine?

• 24:31Speaker 00

  Are you sure you're not confusing it with Command and Conquer?

• 24:33Speaker 02

  I am 1,000% not confusing with Command and Conquer.

• 24:35Speaker 03

  There's no way it's on.

• 24:36Speaker 00

  Cause I know that's on, I know that's on.

• 24:37Speaker 03

  Let's just get a quick fact check on that live.

• 24:40Speaker 02

  Literally do a quick, literally do a quick fact.

• 24:41Speaker 03

  I also played Command and Conquer hard. So in college, uh, we didn't have a, you couldn't, we couldn't actually like, it was, we were stuck on the internet basically.

• 24:49Speaker 02

  I'm right or not?

• 24:50Speaker 03

  So my whole like engineering floor, we just played CNC.

• 24:52Speaker 02

  Just to confirm, I am right.

• 24:54Speaker 00

  Starcraft, Starcraft 64 is a 2010 Nintendo 64 port of the popular PC strategy game.

• 25:00Speaker 02

  Yes. So imagine Starcraft where you're.

• 25:02Speaker 03

  That sounds terrible.

• 25:03Speaker 02

  No, it's just easy. So instead of like having a bunch of keyboard shortcuts, you just slowly go.

• 25:08Speaker 00

  But you can only have.

• 25:09Speaker 03

  Oh my goodness, that's terrible.

• 25:12Speaker 00

  You can only have two players.

• 25:14Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 25:14Speaker 02

  You're afraid? I'm gonna take a damn.

• 25:17Speaker 00

  Uh, first off, we play Starcraft. This is Starcraft 2 household. Uh, second, I will say, there's, you know, um, I kinda feel like, uh, somebody who maybe like, you know, like you, if you're, if you're around a friend who's been sober for a long time, like it's best not to drink.

• 25:31Speaker 03

  Oh, this is a good point.

• 25:32Speaker 00

  I'm just letting you know, like right now, I'm feeling something inside of me because I love Starcraft. Like that was my jam for a good decade.

• 25:40Speaker 03

  When I tweeted it, I sat there and I had my gaming PC in my closet and I was like, I should set this up, but I have no room. Maybe I should buy another desk. Maybe I should, maybe I should just have a dedicated gaming desk.

• 25:48Speaker 00

  It's that easy, kid. It's dangerous.

• 25:50Speaker 03

  But then there was like a, but I have one spot in my office and I'm running out of room for my Pokemon cards. I was like, man, I gotta pick. Is it the Pokemon cards?

• 25:57Speaker 00

  Two addictions mean it. You need a new room for your Pokemon cards. Okay.

• 26:00Speaker 03

  That's a good point. I'm actually out of room. I'm like actually hit my limits. I have to buy some shelves. I gotta.

• 26:05Speaker 00

  Uh, but seriously.

• 26:06Speaker 03

  Maybe a shipping container?

• 26:07Speaker 02

  Hmm.

• 26:08Speaker 00

  Put in a little spot in the backyard.

• 26:09Speaker 03

  But I wanna see it all the time.

• 26:10Speaker 00

  He needs a temperature controlled shipping container.

• 26:12Speaker 03

  Yeah, you need climate control. Yeah, sure.

• 26:14Speaker 00

  Uh, have you played some of the newer Starcraft 2? Cause it doesn't sound like you have. So do you know about lurkers?

• 26:19Speaker 03

  Yeah. Yeah. So I got into it. I mean, I took it pretty far. I think I played a little bit of Legacy of the Void, but I'm talking about when I was like climbing the ladder.

• 26:26Speaker 00

  Yeah, fighting.

• 26:27Speaker 03

  Trying to be pro. Like I tried to legit be pro. So like, I don't know if you know this.

• 26:32Speaker 00

  This is such good lore.

• 26:32Speaker 03

  But I don't know if you know this, like I played Counter-Strike professionally for about two years before that.

• 26:36Speaker 00

  Really?

• 26:37Speaker 02

  What? Lord, what?

• 26:39Speaker 03

  Yeah, I played, uh, 2000.

• 26:40Speaker 00

  Did I hear that correctly?

• 26:41Speaker 02

  What is going on?

• 26:42Speaker 03

  Yeah, 2000.

• 26:45Speaker 00

  Trash, are you saying we can, can we find clips of you playing professionally?

• 26:49Speaker 03

  There's like maybe one clip on YouTube that you can watch. I'll show you after this.

• 26:54Speaker 01

  Are you still pretty good at FPSs?

• 26:56Speaker 03

  I was, I was really good.

• 26:57Speaker 01

  I know, but are you?

• 26:58Speaker 03

  All my old teammates, if you see this, don't talk trash about me, okay?

• 27:00Speaker 00

  Yeah, good point.

• 27:01Speaker 01

  Well, your name is Trash. Uh, you can talk about Trash though, but can you still play? Like, can we hop on Apex Legends and go?

• 27:08Speaker 03

  Well, that's a completely different game than Counter-Strike.

• 27:10Speaker 01

  Yeah, but it's still, at least you're still.

• 27:11Speaker 03

  I'm so washed, dude.

• 27:12Speaker 02

  Valorant, geez, come on, Brian.

• 27:13Speaker 03

  Okay, I'm so washed.

• 27:14Speaker 01

  Star Raiders?

• 27:15Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's, it's to the point where like, I expect myself to be as good as when I was like in college. So when I play for like 30 seconds and I'm, I suck, I just get so mad. Cause I'm so competitive.

• 27:24Speaker 01

  And we're slower now. Slower.

• 27:26Speaker 00

  Hundreds of milliseconds.

• 27:28Speaker 03

  So like, so yeah, so.

• 27:29Speaker 00

  It's, it's embarrassing.

• 27:30Speaker 01

  I got dial-up speeds now going out of my head.

• 27:33Speaker 03

  Yeah, so I was playing, I was on a team based out of Maryland and we used to just do East Coast lands and then we would travel to Texas and do international tournaments.

• 27:40Speaker 01

  Trash, that's so cool.

• 27:41Speaker 02

  That is so cool.

• 27:42Speaker 01

  No joke, that's so cool.

• 27:43Speaker 03

  Dude, I played like 14 hours a day. It was so bad.

• 27:46Speaker 01

  During, when?

• 27:47Speaker 02

  Yeah, when? How are you able to do this?

• 27:49Speaker 03

  Uh, college, so like 2000.

• 27:50Speaker 01

  So in the summertime, you were playing?

• 27:52Speaker 03

  2005, 2006. Dude, so when I was doing my music thing, I had a laptop and when we were.

• 27:56Speaker 01

  Well, what's the music thing?

• 27:58Speaker 03

  You can't say that. But when I was on tour, I would bring my gaming laptop with me and we'll just be like in some rinky-dink hotel and hopefully they had wifi and then I would just practice on bots, shooting, practicing my headshots. They're like, what are you doing? I was like, I'm practicing. And then when I came back from like tour, I would join like my clan and then start playing again.

• 28:15Speaker 00

  And you'd be like, I've been shooting nothing but heads.

• 28:16Speaker 03

  Yeah, dude.

• 28:17Speaker 00

  In the gym, I've been doing only gym work.

• 28:19Speaker 03

  You, you have to, you have to be dedicated to the craft. Like I said, I'm just, I'm like a, I'm just, I obsess over things and it's just like, ugh, it's good and bad. It's good and bad.

• 28:27Speaker 01

  I love this. So we just found out like five games.

• 28:30Speaker 02

  That's a lot of lore drops.

• 28:31Speaker 01

  Yeah, that was good. I love that drop. So right now though, it's Pokemon Go.

• 28:34Speaker 00

  I would say that your Pokemon Go lore is always the worst.

• 28:38Speaker 02

  Dude, we're talking about like the most intense first-person shooter of all time. One of the highest APM games of all time, the most intense strategy. Now I just do Pokemon Go.

• 28:46Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 28:47Speaker 02

  I walk around and I go like this.

• 28:48Speaker 03

  I'm actually scared, I'm actually scared to set up my gaming computer because I will just start playing too much. So I actually had a problem where I gave up games and I was like, I was like, okay, I'm playing games too much. I'm gonna stop playing games and I'm just gonna, and I'm just gonna code instead of gaming.

• 29:03Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's a great strategy.

• 29:04Speaker 02

  We all do that.

• 29:05Speaker 03

  And that's how I like, yeah.

• 29:06Speaker 01

  That sounds familiar, says the three other people that have done that.

• 29:10Speaker 03

  And then like, then I like progressed pretty good in coding. I was like, cool. But now I think I wanna, I wanna play some games. Yup. But man.

• 29:17Speaker 00

  I'm worried about it. Like, that's why I haven't kicked on the old, the old things is because it was, it's dangerous.

• 29:22Speaker 03

  Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You know what I mean?

• 29:25Speaker 00

  Cause I did do a little, a little bit of a dabble in Fortnite for a while.

• 29:28Speaker 03

  Hmm. Oh, I, I went through a Fortnite.

• 29:30Speaker 00

  I, I.

• 29:30Speaker 03

  I went through a Fortnite phase.

• 29:31Speaker 00

  Yeah, I went on like a quick four hundred hours in just like a couple of months. I was like, I gotta, I gotta get.

• 29:35Speaker 03

  I was like pretty good at building. When you were able to build, I was like, you like, you shoot one bullet at me and I build a mansion.

• 29:40Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 29:41Speaker 03

  And like, I'm like.

• 29:42Speaker 00

  A hotel with wifi is what I.

• 29:44Speaker 03

  I was, I was ready. Dude, I tried to be a Fortnite streamer for a second and then so I, I would have like the typical like whatever my name is under underscore TTV. And then they would, I would kill someone and they'd go into my stream and just make fun of me. And I'm like, this is, this is sad.

• 29:57Speaker 02

  Wait, you had the, the, what is it?

• 29:59Speaker 03

  So you had the like. You had like your Twitch. Yeah, you have your Twitch name underscore TTV. So when I like body somebody, they're just like, you're whack. Oh, you're lame. I'm just like. Alright, maybe this game is just too toxic for me. Maybe I shouldn't do this anymore.

• 30:11Speaker 02

  Yeah, Fortnite's so toxic.

• 30:12Speaker 00

  It's too toxic. He just, we can go back to CS.

• 30:16Speaker 03

  Dude, I played League for a while too and that was.

• 30:19Speaker 02

  Is there anything you haven't played?

• 30:21Speaker 00

  How, how did you get League? Masters also?

• 30:23Speaker 03

  No, I actually sucked really bad at League. And it was actually, it was so discouraging.

• 30:28Speaker 00

  Past bronze? Can we get out of bronze?

• 30:30Speaker 03

  I could not get out of bronze the same way.

• 30:32Speaker 02

  Really?

• 30:32Speaker 03

  In my head, I was like a diamond player. Like, I was like, I'm so good. Why can't I get out?

• 30:36Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's my team that's holding me back. Dude, it's a hundred percent, it's a hundred percent my team. It's always.

• 30:40Speaker 00

  Evil hell is real when it comes to, when it comes, when it comes to that.

• 30:44Speaker 03

  I tried to get my friend to climb me out. I was like, take my password. Just give me to like silver or something, please.

• 30:48Speaker 02

  Wait, Prime's played League?

• 30:49Speaker 00

  No, I've never played League.

• 30:49Speaker 02

  Okay, okay. I was like, I was like, you've been, you're not.

• 30:51Speaker 03

  Worst game ever.

• 30:52Speaker 00

  Met a lot of people who've decided to have a horrible time.

• 30:55Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 30:55Speaker 02

  Yeah, I know. I have, I have lots of friends who are like hopelessly addicted. Like, it's not funny. They don't talk about it in a happy way. They're like, I have an addiction. I hate it. I play it every day. I hate it. And I'm like, what are you talking? Why do you keep playing? They go, I'm addicted. I'm like, to what? If you keep saying you hate it, like, I don't fully get the League relationship.

• 31:13Speaker 03

  The, the funny thing is like, so the people that I played like Counter-Strike with, there's like a core group of guys, they think they can be good at, they took Counter-Strike way further than I did.

• 31:21Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 31:21Speaker 03

  But, um, they stay as a group and they're like, well, what game can we play and potentially go pro as a group again? So like Overwatch.

• 31:27Speaker 02

  Hmm.

• 31:28Speaker 03

  And all that stuff. So they'll just always try to find all these games that are like five player or whatever. And like, how can we go pro? So that's kind of like how I find out all these other games and try them out.

• 31:35Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 31:35Speaker 03

  But like, when you have that like competitive mentality, you just want to be the best in every single one.

• 31:39Speaker 00

  Yup.

• 31:39Speaker 03

  You just want to like. Just wanna make him cry.

• 31:42Speaker 02

  It's called.

• 31:42Speaker 03

  You just want him to sit there.

• 31:43Speaker 02

  He's a little min maxer. I've seen this guy before. Yeah.

• 31:46Speaker 03

  It's not, nothing better than a noob stomping.

• 31:50Speaker 02

  Dang.

• 31:50Speaker 03

  You know what I'm saying?

• 31:50Speaker 00

  I, I will say smurfing does like I did, I did only a few times in Halo, but it does feel good when you're just like, alright, I'm gonna start up a new account.

• 31:59Speaker 03

  Dude, when someone bodies me, I'm like, that guy's smurfing. That guy's hundred percent smurfing. Who is he?

• 32:03Speaker 00

  Yeah, it feels.

• 32:04Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, cuz, cuz you're in bronze, so.

• 32:06Speaker 03

  They just made a new account and just crushes me.

• 32:09Speaker 00

  It feels good. It feels good.

• 32:11Speaker 03

  It does.

• 32:12Speaker 02

  I used to like to set up in Perfect Dark, you know, a hundred bots on the, you know, on meat.

• 32:16Speaker 03

  Perfect Dark is the worst game.

• 32:17Speaker 00

  First off, you can only have at max eight bots on the Nintendo sixty-four Perfect Dark, and I prefer Judge Sim.

• 32:22Speaker 03

  Did you ever play double oh seven?

• 32:23Speaker 02

  Wrong.

• 32:23Speaker 00

  Oh, my gosh.

• 32:24Speaker 02

  You could have way more than eight.

• 32:25Speaker 00

  Okay, okay, Perfect Dark.

• 32:28Speaker 03

  Vegan, did you play double oh seven with the golden gun?

• 32:30Speaker 02

  I mean, I did, but I play, I was a perfect art person cuz double, double seven compared to it sucks. Like, Perfect Dark is like the same.

• 32:35Speaker 00

  So lame.

• 32:36Speaker 02

  What are you talking? It's literally one million times better.

• 32:39Speaker 00

  In the original Perfect Dark, the maximum simulant count, uh, in the combat simulator is eight, allowing up to four human players and eight bots, twelve in total, as I said, because I played Perfect Dark easily two, three thousand hours.

• 32:51Speaker 02

  Let me see what you're searching. How did you get that answer? Oh, guys, he's using the AI overview for that. Oh, yeah, the AI overview's real. Who are you gonna believe?

• 32:59Speaker 00

  Uh, would you like me to go to game frequently asked questions?

• 33:03Speaker 02

  Game packs dot com. Oh, well, let's go. Actually, that's one of my old, that's like, actually, speaking of old video games, I used to live on that site. Dang. I, I actually used to go to Cheat Code Central. That was more my site. Dude, Game Shark? Did you ever get into any of the Game Shark cheating? No, no, no. Game Shark would require buying a device and as a child. So exciting, though. Sadly, I had the, my, my, uh, I grew up with, what do you call them? Abuse of parents. And so they wouldn't let us have any games that weren't educational. And so.

• 33:27Speaker 03

  Is that what you classify as abuse?

• 33:29Speaker 00

  Oh, his parents wouldn't celebrate his birthday either, so that's how I got those devices.

• 33:32Speaker 02

  I didn't.

• 33:33Speaker 03

  I remember when I thought you guys were joking. Oh, my god.

• 33:35Speaker 02

  Yeah, so, so, yeah, no birthdays and then no, I wasn't getting video games, so I had to buy, I, I had to buy everything myself. So for the, uh, super, uh, SNES, I was able to successfully, over the lifetime of our system, we were able to acquire three games. Uh, I took, oh, they're sixty dollars.

• 33:50Speaker 00

  No, games are actually more expensive back then than they are today.

• 33:53Speaker 02

  They're, they're sixty dollars each. Uh, so, Donkey Kong Country one. Nice. Which I, which I still, over and over.

• 33:58Speaker 00

  ZK one, it's so good.

• 33:59Speaker 02

  Amazing.

• 34:00Speaker 03

  That's still a good game.

• 34:01Speaker 02

  This is so bad and I thought it was the other Kirby game. I saw a friend playing a Kirby game. It looks so fun. I saved up forever and then bought it at Sears.

• 34:10Speaker 03

  Kirby game's terrible.

• 34:11Speaker 02

  Then, like, I didn't even get the right one. I bought, uh, the, the Bean Kirby one. The Kirby, like, it's, um, Tetris. Uh, so I got it and there's like-

• 34:20Speaker 01

  Not even Dreamland or whatever.

• 34:21Speaker 02

  No, not Dreamland. It was, I can't remember what it's called and guess what? I still play it all the time right now.

• 34:26Speaker 01

  You've only got so many options.

• 34:27Speaker 02

  It's the only game that I'm good at and so I'm like, this is all I have.

• 34:30Speaker 03

  Is it like a Dr. Mario type thing?

• 34:31Speaker 02

  Yes, Dr. Mario. It's exactly Dr. Mario. And then the last one, which my dad did help with Ken Griffey Jr. baseball. He's like, okay, kid, you're gonna be playing, you're gonna play games.

• 34:38Speaker 03

  I played Ken Griffey Jr. actually, that was a good game.

• 34:40Speaker 02

  So that was all I was able to acquire for these SNES, for the lifetime of me having it. No extra games. So I only have played three games, but I'm very good at them. And then once I got-

• 34:51Speaker 01

  That matches your personality better anyways though.

• 34:53Speaker 02

  Well, no, it's how-

• 34:53Speaker 03

  What do you mean by that?

• 34:55Speaker 01

  I mean, Beegan plays exactly the same thing over and over and over.

• 34:58Speaker 02

  It's, it's how I began. I became a speedrunner. Cause I just played Donkey Kong Country over, it over, it over, it beat it faster, beat it faster, beat it faster. And then I, once I learned what speedrunning was, I'm like, that thing I do? It was literally like-

• 35:09Speaker 03

  How, how fast can you beat? Well, I mean, like, what's the record on Donkey Kong?

• 35:12Speaker 02

  Oh, it's so fast. It's so fast. I got, I, I used to know the actual stats of it.

• 35:15Speaker 03

  Is there like bugs to where you can skip levels like in Mario?

• 35:17Speaker 02

  Yeah, there's, there's, it's not, no, it's not quite as crazy in Donkey Kong, but yeah, there are crazy skips and there's actually a guy Void that I watch on, um, Twitch pretty often, like, working on that record and that, I played that game and then, uh, Donkey Kong Country 2, which I did not own as a child. But I bought as an adult and I play a lot.

• 35:33Speaker 01

  He retconed his life and bought it.

• 35:34Speaker 03

  DK 2 has like the little one, the little dude.

• 35:37Speaker 02

  His name is, well, first of all, Diddy is in both games.

• 35:39Speaker 03

  Diddy, oh, is it?

• 35:40Speaker 02

  But Dixie is in, is in, uh, uh-

• 35:42Speaker 01

  Did you ever watch that?

• 35:43Speaker 03

  Diddy was in those games?

• 35:44Speaker 02

  Yeah, you know, they've been trying, no, no, no. This is actually one of the saddest things ever.

• 35:47Speaker 01

  Did he have an island?

• 35:48Speaker 02

  Yeah, he did, he did. I'll let you know, but in the Donkey Kong Country Universe, Donkey Kong Universe, they've been trying to erase Diddy from it. I think because-

• 35:55Speaker 03

  No way.

• 35:56Speaker 02

  No, they keep not mentioning Diddy.

• 35:57Speaker 03

  Is there like Diddy parties in, in those games?

• 35:59Speaker 02

  Exactly. They're afraid of like-

• 36:01Speaker 01

  It just, everything sounds bad with Diddy in the name now, right?

• 36:05Speaker 03

  I completely forgot it was Diddy Kong.

• 36:08Speaker 00

  I, did you, were you the one that showed me the Joel Javier or whatever it is cartoon of the Donkey Kong one?

• 36:14Speaker 02

  Yeah, Donkey Kong 64, yeah. No, the, the actual games I had growing up, that, the games that my parents bought me, is I played Encarta 95. You ever play that? Someone out there had Encarta 95.

• 36:25Speaker 00

  Explain it to me.

• 36:26Speaker 03

  That's an educational game, isn't it?

• 36:27Speaker 02

  There's not, it's not a game, it's an encyclopedia that you load into your computer and it's got a couple games.

• 36:32Speaker 03

  So I had the encyclopedia games that was like my compact rosario or something, and I used to go hard on those.

• 36:36Speaker 02

  Oh, that's all I, I was going nuts.

• 36:39Speaker 03

  Yeah, when you said it, I was like, that's educational.

• 36:41Speaker 02

  No, no, that's, my parents only would buy educate, so I had that, I played, this is bad, the only one, Math Blaster, I'll let you know, but Math Blaster, there's like 30 of them for math. I had all, I had Math Blaster, Calculus 2, or whatever, the plot progresses in the Math Blaster universe too, so.

• 36:55Speaker 01

  They're in the same universe across the different games.

• 36:57Speaker 02

  Hundred percent, hundred percent. And then you visit an island full of monkeys, and then in the monkey la, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 37:02Speaker 03

  Encarto is a Diddy island?

• 37:04Speaker 02

  Yeah, no, there was, there was a whole, yeah, yeah, but a lot of educational games, and then I remember finally, you know, getting old enough to go over to a friend's house and be like, cool, what kind of games you got? You guys got Encarta, you guys got, and like, we're playing Super Mario World, and I was like, oh my god, this is actually fun. And I'm like, where, I was like, where are the quiz questions? This doesn't make any sense. The games I play are all, you watch a little video and then they ask you.

• 37:27Speaker 01

  Hey, what was number seven's job?

• 37:31Speaker 02

  And also, that's why I'm very, very bad at games, and I would go over to friends' houses and I'm like so bad.

• 37:36Speaker 03

  So sheltered.

• 37:37Speaker 02

  I can't participate. And then once like people got into like the first person shooters in Halo, they're like, Beagle, you can't play, like, you can't be on our team for Halo, like, it was like, okay. Prime is so good, Beagle can be with Prime. That's how it all, I was always paired with someone to nerf them, and it was like, and yeah, so.

• 37:54Speaker 00

  Yeah, alright, let's go. I always had the problem of I'd play Halo, especially Halo 3 with, because I played with the internet, and so then I was like, oh, like, let's do a LAN party. It'd last for like 30 minutes and then everyone'd go.

• 38:04Speaker 03

  Let's do something else.

• 38:07Speaker 03

  It's like not fun anymore.

• 38:08Speaker 00

  It'd be like one on four and I'd just be like alright, everybody dead.

• 38:11Speaker 03

  I've gone through that scenario. Alright, go.

• 38:14Speaker 00

  Alright, Tej.

• 38:15Speaker 01

  Okay, Trash, along. I'll go, I'll do a little bit of like a deeper dive into the past. The game that I played probably the most ever was Dota 2.

• 38:24Speaker 00

  Also, I didn't realize.

• 38:25Speaker 03

  Dota was too hard for me.

• 38:27Speaker 01

  Too hard, yeah. It makes sense, League player, yeah.

• 38:29Speaker 00

  Yeah. Wait, hold on. When you say deep past, are you talking about Warcraft 3 Dota? Or like, when did you? Okay, when did you start on Dota?

• 38:36Speaker 01

  That's when I started playing Dota 2, yeah, yeah.

• 38:38Speaker 03

  You know what I used to do?

• 38:39Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 38:39Speaker 03

  I would like, since like, I would try to play and I would keep overriding the courier or something.

• 38:43Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, yeah. Now, everybody has their own courier, Trash.

• 38:47Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 38:47Speaker 01

  So you wouldn't even be the most updated person on the team.

• 38:49Speaker 03

  Everyone's just yelling at me. They're like, "Stop taking the courier."

• 38:51Speaker 01

  Spoiler alert. Sorry, yeah, yeah. Be getting to know you're still waiting to read the patch notes, but...

• 38:55Speaker 03

  I need that version, because I was awful.

• 38:57Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 38:57Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 38:58Speaker 01

  That was probably the game that I played like the most of. I played that through college and like, for quite a while.

• 39:03Speaker 03

  They always had good prize pools. Did you watch like the competitions and everything?

• 39:05Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah, that was fun. That was like...

• 39:06Speaker 03

  I would, I would watch the competitions, but I couldn't play it.

• 39:09Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah. That was actually, what was funny was, I just first saw a video from Prime, which is what eventually got me into streaming and stuff, on Twitch doing programming things. But I was only aware of Twitch as a means to watch professional Dota 2.

• 39:22Speaker 00

  Oh, really?

• 39:23Speaker 01

  Yeah, like, I was like, "The site where they have the international? The guys on here doing programming? That sounds insane." "I'll check it out."

• 39:33Speaker 02

  Wait, they have programming on the hot tub streamer site? That's a little weird.

• 39:37Speaker 00

  That was Deegan's experience. That's how he stumbled into it. Question, I know nothing about Dota other than I played it for Warcraft 3. So that's like, my knowledge is so dated.

• 39:46Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 39:46Speaker 00

  Um, which I even know what Dota stands for. Not a lot of people...

• 39:49Speaker 01

  Defense of the ancient.

• 39:49Speaker 00

  Yeah, I know.

• 39:50Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 39:50Speaker 03

  I did not even know that.

• 39:51Speaker 00

  That's Warcraft 3, baby. Uh, but, do people also hate their lives like they do with League? Because League and Dota are very similar in some sense.

• 40:00Speaker 01

  I think it's a, so, I had fun playing Dota.

• 40:04Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 40:04Speaker 01

  But... I think it's probably, I don't know if you think this trash? I think League players hate their lives more often than Dota players.

• 40:12Speaker 03

  100%.

• 40:12Speaker 00

  What makes League hateable?

• 40:14Speaker 01

  What makes League hateable? I think it's the people.

• 40:16Speaker 03

  It's the community.

• 40:17Speaker 01

  Yeah, okay, right.

• 40:18Speaker 03

  100% the community.

• 40:19Speaker 01

  League players in the comments, you can just probably agree.

• 40:22Speaker 03

  It's my team, you're the problem.

• 40:24Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, well, it's because everyone thinks that, I mean.

• 40:26Speaker 03

  Everyone thinks they're good.

• 40:27Speaker 01

  Everyone thinks they're good, yeah. I don't really know why it is.

• 40:30Speaker 00

  Oh, it's Twitter.

• 40:31Speaker 01

  I think the other thing for it too, for League.

• 40:33Speaker 03

  It's human.

• 40:34Speaker 01

  Is, there's like, stuff you can do to unlock characters and like, get new, new, or here, what do they call it? They call them characters or heroes in League? What do they call the, the people you play as?

• 40:45Speaker 03

  I don't even know. I erased that game from my memory.

• 40:46Speaker 00

  Sadness.

• 40:47Speaker 03

  Legends, I think they're legends.

• 40:48Speaker 01

  Are they? I don't know.

• 40:49Speaker 00

  Because it is League of in fact Legends.

• 40:52Speaker 01

  Dang, okay. I don't know, well, the, the people that you can play as, you like, unlock them? And so I think that makes people feel like sunk cost fallacy for it, maybe? So they get stuck hating that they spent all this time or money to unlock characters? Whereas for Dota, it's always like, all the characters are always free.

• 41:08Speaker 02

  Gotcha.

• 41:09Speaker 01

  So then maybe there's something going on.

• 41:10Speaker 00

  You just like, buy skins or something? Is that how they do it?

• 41:12Speaker 01

  Yeah, skins is the only thing you can buy Dota.

• 41:13Speaker 03

  Dude, I bought so many skins.

• 41:14Speaker 00

  Quick question though. Did you watch League of Legends, the cartoon?

• 41:18Speaker 01

  I watched the first season, yeah.

• 41:19Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah.

• 41:20Speaker 03

  Oh, you're talking about like, the Netflix one?

• 41:21Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 41:22Speaker 03

  What's it called again?

• 41:23Speaker 00

  League of Legends.

• 41:24Speaker 01

  Oh my goodness, Trash, you worked there, bro.

• 41:26Speaker 03

  Arcane, you're talking about Arcane?

• 41:27Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 41:28Speaker 02

  Good save, that was close trash.

• 41:29Speaker 00

  Subtitle, League of Legends.

• 41:31Speaker 03

  Oh, is it?

• 41:31Speaker 01

  Subtitle, League of Legends is funny.

• 41:33Speaker 03

  I never watched it because I hate that game, so, okay.

• 41:37Speaker 01

  Smart trash, don't, and don't wake it back in yourself.

• 41:39Speaker 03

  I heard it was good, I heard it was good.

• 41:40Speaker 00

  When was the last time you played Dota though? So like, how long ago was this addiction?

• 41:43Speaker 02

  How long you been clean?

• 41:45Speaker 01

  I'm trying to think. I don't think I played since I had kids, probably, so at least five years.

• 41:50Speaker 02

  That's probably for the best.

• 41:51Speaker 01

  Yeah, it was, well, it was like, I really, like, I had fun.

• 41:54Speaker 00

  You choose one.

• 41:54Speaker 01

  I played, I played the game, and I had fun. So, okay, thanks Trash.

• 42:00Speaker 02

  Thanks Trash.

• 42:02Speaker 03

  Don't, don't mind me.

• 42:03Speaker 01

  We're not, it's okay. Uh, like, it didn't matter whether I won or lost, like, I had fun playing the game, and I enjoyed even like, trying to grind rank and, ranked and stuff, so it was like... I would have just played all the time if I had the option. So it was like, okay, that probably I have to just be like done with that. So then I stopped playing for like a decent amount of time. I think around when I was done with college and then I just played like some fun games with my friends occasionally after that for a while. And I just was like, I won't play ranked because then I'll want to play like a lot.

• 42:32Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 42:32Speaker 01

  Um, and Dota has a mode, I don't know if League has one similar called Turbo, where it's like basically the game, you get like more money and more experience more quickly. So you can play the game in closer like fifteen to twenty. Yeah, like the game's speed itself is still the same, right? So it's like, you know, you want to cast a stun. It's not like it flies twice as fast or something like that. But then that was what I would always play with my friends because we would play like a game in fifteen to thirty minutes. It was like, oh, that's chill. Like it's a lot more fun than like occasionally getting stuck for like an hour.

• 42:59Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 43:00Speaker 01

  Um, so, yeah. An hour? Yeah, for one game. Yeah, Halo is twelve minutes, which is just like. That's the part with MOBAs that's hard to even like grasp. But also what makes it so fun, I feel like, is because it's like.

• 43:11Speaker 03

  When it's competitive.

• 43:12Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, well, and you know, you feel like.

• 43:14Speaker 03

  But then when you lose after all that time, you're like, what am I doing?

• 43:15Speaker 01

  That's why League people hate their life is because you have to spend an hour. To lose twenty-five elo. Yeah, that's what, you see the red minus twenty-five? That does not feel good.

• 43:26Speaker 03

  It's also worse when you know you're gonna lose in the first five minutes, but you have to wait like twenty minutes to surrender.

• 43:30Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 43:30Speaker 03

  And you're just like, I don't even know what to do. And everyone starts grieving and feeding.

• 43:33Speaker 01

  Actually, I think the other thing, League still has surrender, right?

• 43:37Speaker 03

  I don't think you can surrender until like twenty minutes.

• 43:39Speaker 01

  Yeah, but okay, but you can concede. I'm saying in Dota, you can't concede. I think that's another thing that makes Dota less toxic is because as soon as something goes wrong in League, concede, bros, bros, bros, concede.

• 43:50Speaker 03

  Yeah, and then everyone's like angry and people are yelling at you.

• 43:51Speaker 03

  Yeah, everyone's disagreeing, so you just stay in the game and then if you leave, you get like banned.

• 43:54Speaker 01

  But in Dota, you can't do that. And if someone like just like griefs or does other stuff, they'll get like bad stuff happen to their account. Or like you try and throw the game intentionally, people can report you and stuff. So then, a lot of times, like I had plenty of games playing Dota where minutes one through twenty, you were like, we lost.

• 44:12Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 44:13Speaker 01

  No matter what. And then, you know, you're just playing with other bad people.

• 44:17Speaker 03

  Right.

• 44:17Speaker 01

  So they do something stupid. They like try and. Dive into your base and kill you and stuff. They give you, you end up getting like 5,000 gold. Your, your team.

• 44:25Speaker 03

  And then you start carrying?

• 44:26Speaker 01

  Your team, your team picked no support characters, only, only, I'm the attack guy, me, I'm attack guy. I know we had four attack guys, I pick attack guy. But if they go and die and then give you a bunch of money and now it's minute 25, you're like, oh, now we have five insane late game characters. We'll win. So like that happened plenty of times, like playing Dota, which I think that might be, that was one of the other things that I always thought made a big difference in like the psychology of the game. Cause you have a button you can press to say, let's be done. As opposed to the only way we lose is when they beat, like they destroy the engine. Yeah.

• 45:01Speaker 03

  I'm trying to think, the last game I played a lot of hours was Breath of the Wild.

• 45:04Speaker 02

  Oh, nice.

• 45:05Speaker 00

  I'm just about to beat Tears of the Kingdom.

• 45:07Speaker 02

  Oh, you're, oh, really? I stopped. I, I was loving it and then I stopped, but I beat Breath of the Wild and loved it.

• 45:12Speaker 03

  I wasn't completely different.

• 45:14Speaker 00

  Seven times.

• 45:14Speaker 02

  Oh, wow.

• 45:15Speaker 03

  When I played Breath of the Wild, I think that was actually pre-kids, cause it was so long ago. And I was like, I'm gonna do the same thing. And I was like, already on kid two.

• 45:21Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 45:21Speaker 03

  Played for like five minutes. I was like, I'm going to sleep. I was like, I was like, I can't even. So it's just sitting on my switch. I was like, I just don't have the energy.

• 45:28Speaker 00

  Tears of the Kingdom is kinda sad in the sense that you get, you, you go through and you're beating everything. You get through like the four, it's the, it's like the same game again. You get through your four things. The story's really monotonous. And then you go and fight Ganon and then you fight like his like little buddies, Ganondorf's buddies. And then the story's just like, oh, well, you gotta figure out where the fifth guy is. And then there's just no information. You're just like, I don't know. So I'm just like wandering around the gloom right now down in the like, there's no information. Apparently there's like 15 story parts you have to go figure out by talking to random people. So I'm just like.

• 45:57Speaker 02

  It's a good game to wander though. I like.

• 45:59Speaker 00

  I know, but I'm too old for that shit.

• 46:00Speaker 03

  Yeah. The one thing I didn't like about the game was you, you can like fly on this little metal thing and you can like attach.

• 46:06Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's fun.

• 46:06Speaker 03

  I couldn't figure out how to fly, so I would just fall off, like I would put on the edge and I would just go.

• 46:13Speaker 00

  You have to get enough speed.

• 46:14Speaker 02

  You have to balance it.

• 46:15Speaker 03

  Yeah, you have to like slide down something, right? But I would be on, I would be like on a island with no ramps.

• 46:20Speaker 02

  You know, you know, you know, you can get a little like handle that you put on it.

• 46:24Speaker 00

  There's a handle you can do to drive it.

• 46:25Speaker 02

  You put it on it.

• 46:26Speaker 03

  Clearly, I didn't know.

• 46:27Speaker 00

  What about fans? Did you get fans?

• 46:29Speaker 03

  Yeah, I had the fans. I would put, I would literally be on the edge, have the fans on.

• 46:32Speaker 00

  What about the chat engines?

• 46:35Speaker 03

  That's what made me stop playing, to be honest. Literally that mechanic.

• 46:38Speaker 02

  Well, it is a totally like typical Zelda games. Oh, great story. We're finding this one. It's like, cool, engineering mostly. Just sit here and just, you can make it just a totally different world and game.

• 46:47Speaker 03

  Let me play.

• 46:49Speaker 01

  I will say the game that I've been playing the most recently is Slay. That's like, if I'm, I'll play like part of game. The other thing I like for Slay is like, if I have 10 minutes, I can play one and then I just pause and pick it up the next day.

• 47:01Speaker 03

  Does that mean you guys like Hearthstone then? Cause Hearthstone's like a Warcraft.

• 47:04Speaker 01

  Never played Hearthstone, but I think I would have probably liked it, yeah.

• 47:07Speaker 03

  Cause you guys like that universe, apparently?

• 47:09Speaker 01

  I never played any of that.

• 47:10Speaker 03

  I've never played that.

• 47:11Speaker 02

  Before, before Slay.

• 47:12Speaker 03

  I've never been a fan of deck builder games in general.

• 47:13Speaker 02

  We were all Bellatro boys, right?

• 47:15Speaker 03

  I love Bellatro.

• 47:16Speaker 02

  I still am Bellatro boy. I mean, did you never do any Bellatro at all, Trash?

• 47:19Speaker 03

  I never did any deck building games in general.

• 47:21Speaker 02

  Oh, my God. Just do Bellatro.

• 47:22Speaker 03

  I don't get it. I don't get it.

• 47:23Speaker 02

  That's because you've never had a good deck.

• 47:24Speaker 03

  Every time I watch you all play, I don't get it.

• 47:26Speaker 02

  No, no. Once you build one good deck and it starts popping off, you'll go, I get it. And then you'll be chasing that feeling until you have a totally new deck. And then you have two feelings you're chasing. Then you build a third deck. Now you're chasing three feelings. It is, you've never.

• 47:37Speaker 00

  It's fun. It could be really, really fun.

• 47:39Speaker 02

  Really satisfying.

• 47:40Speaker 00

  To get like an all natural E plus 20.

• 47:43Speaker 03

  An all natural.

• 47:43Speaker 02

  Also, you know, it's still frustrating that he's a Pokemon.

• 47:45Speaker 03

  My valet ran out.

• 47:46Speaker 02

  He's a Pokemon collector.

• 47:47Speaker 03

  Uh oh, Trash.

• 47:48Speaker 02

  Who is like, I don't like card games. It's like, what are you talking?

• 47:51Speaker 03

  I don't like deck builders.

• 47:52Speaker 02

  You're the one ruining the hobby, okay?

• 47:54Speaker 01

  Pokemon cards.

• 47:55Speaker 02

  He just wants to see, he just wants to scalp us.

• 47:57Speaker 00

  Alright, so games that we're excited for. For me, the two big ones that I'm really excited for is actually trying to build something that's engineering into either Minecraft or Terraria. I think that's just gonna be fun.

• 48:08Speaker 02

  Yes, I'm excited. I'm very excited about that.

• 48:10Speaker 00

  There's something really, a really fun idea of like, can you actually make a web server? And like CloudFlare tunnel it out and actually like, okay, this thing's serving real traffic. This is a fully real game.

• 48:21Speaker 01

  The other one that I want to try, but I don't think we can get enough people or there exists such a thing. But it's similar to the idea I had a while ago. It would be fun to try and do one iteration of like ChatGPT by hand. Like do the matrix multiplication. It would be hilarious to get like 50,000 people on a Minecraft server. And then you do, you try and like have them flip the levers of a neuron. And then like do an L L. Yeah, I'm down.

• 48:46Speaker 00

  We, we could do, well, you know, like the Minsk handwriting recognition.

• 48:49Speaker 01

  We could do the handwriting one, maybe would be funny. Yeah, yeah, that would be funny.

• 48:52Speaker 00

  It's just like, hey, this is just like a four layer MLP or we could even do an RBF, which is a single layer. So you could actually like really get close to it.

• 48:58Speaker 01

  That could be funny. Yeah.

• 49:00Speaker 00

  And they have to hand calculate out the radio basis function.

• 49:03Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 49:03Speaker 03

  I have no idea what you guys just said right now, but I'm gonna nod my head. Sounds cool. Sounds cool.

• 49:08Speaker 02

  The best part about video games is implementing L L M's inside of them.

• 49:12Speaker 00

  Okay, but the hard part about that is that the neurons fire with floating values, whereas you have just like on and off.

• 49:19Speaker 02

  You could make, we could, yeah, there's a way of making floats in.

• 49:22Speaker 00

  Yeah, I guess you could just have like five switches and it really represents like two to the negative one, two to the negative two, two to the negative three.

• 49:28Speaker 01

  They could have eight switches and then everyone's got a U and eight.

• 49:31Speaker 00

  Yeah, but then, but it's all a point, right? It's all less than one.

• 49:35Speaker 01

  Yeah, right.

• 49:36Speaker 00

  Okay, nice. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah, yeah. The two to the negative one, two, two to the negative eight. Yeah. Okay. That's beautiful.

• 49:40Speaker 02

  Okay, but Prime, you also have to be excited about, it's literally like the biggest moment in a long time.

• 49:44Speaker 00

  I don't know. That's, I actually would rather do that. I think that'd be a very great thing to start with. Handwritten, handwritten recognition.

• 49:52Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 49:52Speaker 00

  In Minecraft or something like that. One of those two.

• 49:54Speaker 01

  It would be fun to do some investigation.

• 49:55Speaker 02

  So as long as we can build that before Slay the Spire 2 comes out, we're good to go.

• 49:59Speaker 01

  That's what we need to do.

• 50:00Speaker 02

  We just have to start it now before Slay 2 comes out because honestly, I think all of us are gonna transition. No more programming content anymore.

• 50:06Speaker 01

  Only Slay the Spire 2.

• 50:07Speaker 02

  Slay the Spire 2 content.

• 50:08Speaker 03

  Well, when is that? Is that actually coming out at some point?

• 50:10Speaker 01

  I think it's coming out this year. I don't remember when.

• 50:12Speaker 00

  I, I'm actually very worried that it's springtime, which is a very.

• 50:15Speaker 03

  That's very soon.

• 50:16Speaker 01

  I'm very worried it's springtime.

• 50:17Speaker 02

  I love being, I love being worried that a video game is coming out.

• 50:20Speaker 00

  And then the worst part is then GTA 6 and then, I mean, we're gonna have to role play very hard.

• 50:24Speaker 02

  Wait, GTA 6? I thought they delayed till 2027 at least.

• 50:27Speaker 01

  I think you're right.

• 50:27Speaker 02

  They did delay it again.

• 50:28Speaker 01

  I think it's delayed again.

• 50:29Speaker 00

  You're safe, Prime. You're safe. Okay, okay. There, there is a non-zero chance that. GTA 6 will be delayed enough years that we will have an AI powerful enough just to make GTA 6.

• 50:39Speaker 03

  Exactly.

• 50:40Speaker 00

  Is that gonna happen?

• 50:41Speaker 01

  I think honestly, that's what they're doing. They probably don't actually have anyone working for the company anymore.

• 50:46Speaker 00

  They lost the technology, didn't they?

• 50:46Speaker 01

  Right. Someone deleted the backups and the Git repo and everything and they're like, "Okay, well, here's our chance. We can either tell everyone we lost the game or..."

• 50:57Speaker 03

  This running into Ralph?

• 50:58Speaker 01

  We wait for Opus 37.5 and Codex 19 and we say, "Make me GTA 6. No mistakes."

• 51:06Speaker 02

  No mistakes. Did you, did you guys actually play the GTA's?

• 51:09Speaker 03

  I played like the early ones.

• 51:11Speaker 01

  I didn't play any, Beagle.

• 51:12Speaker 00

  They're saying that early access could very well be in March 2020. I was worried that there was a spring launch. See, it's not even spring. That's the worst part. It's actually...

• 51:21Speaker 01

  That's soon, bro. That's soon.

• 51:22Speaker 03

  That's like...

• 51:23Speaker 01

  We better make a lot of videos.

• 51:24Speaker 02

  We have a problem.

• 51:25Speaker 01

  We gotta queue up for six months, bro.

• 51:27Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's gonna be an issue.

• 51:29Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 51:30Speaker 00

  Okay, well.

• 51:31Speaker 01

  That's the one I'm excited for. So I thought Bellatro was supposed to get some updates this year, too.

• 51:35Speaker 02

  Uh, there was, there's just a, like, yeah, another patch update. It was gonna be, I believe, in the winter and he says, "Hey, it's gonna take a bit longer. No big deal. No hurry."

• 51:42Speaker 01

  I would be excited to see some new Bellatro.

• 51:44Speaker 02

  Yeah, a new little patch would be awesome. Yeah, I'm down for that.

• 51:47Speaker 01

  Yeah. There's a new Dota 2 hero, but I'm not gonna test him out. He's a frog.

• 51:51Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 51:52Speaker 03

  I hate frogs.

• 51:53Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 51:54Speaker 02

  There are a couple, there are a couple other goofy games I've seen, just like being on like my Twitter. I've seen that I've put on my list, like...

• 52:00Speaker 01

  Oh dude, J-Blow's game. I wanna play J-Blow's game.

• 52:03Speaker 00

  That's coming out soon. The sinking star.

• 52:06Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 52:06Speaker 00

  I think we should all play it.

• 52:08Speaker 03

  It's a cool game.

• 52:09Speaker 02

  No, it's a, it's a puzzle game, so we're gonna find out who's actually the smartest finally.

• 52:11Speaker 01

  We're gonna be doing speedrunning against each other on 2020.

• 52:14Speaker 02

  Yes, 100%.

• 52:15Speaker 01

  Right.

• 52:15Speaker 02

  Yes. So the other one I saw, I saw it on, uh, Twitter and I'm gonna find it, but it was a Minesweeper rogue-like. And I don't know if you know, but I'm really good at Minesweeper.

• 52:24Speaker 03

  I could never beat that game.

• 52:26Speaker 02

  Well, once you, once you...

• 52:27Speaker 03

  I could never beat that game.

• 52:28Speaker 02

  Well, once you learn the rules, it's like, you know, pattern recognition. You get faster and fa- and soon you don't even...

• 52:33Speaker 01

  The rules, it tells you the number.

• 52:35Speaker 03

  I didn't, I didn't have the patience to like figure it out. I'm just like, one, uh...

• 52:39Speaker 02

  I don't know. It's just, it's a, it's a guessing game of some sort.

• 52:42Speaker 03

  I was literally guessing.

• 52:43Speaker 01

  Here, higher over here.

• 52:44Speaker 03

  I was guessing, like I would click until like you hit one where like reveals like most of it and then it gets kinda hard after that.

• 52:50Speaker 02

  That's, that's, once it reveals, that's where it gets easy. That gives you the information on what to press. It will tell you.

• 52:55Speaker 03

  I didn't have the patience.

• 52:56Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 52:57Speaker 00

  What's this rogue like?

• 52:58Speaker 02

  This is Mind Sweeper Rogue like.

• 52:59Speaker 03

  I could beat the small grins.

• 53:00Speaker 02

  I'll send you a link later.

• 53:01Speaker 01

  Trash, what about you? Anything exciting coming out this year for you? Or we'll let you substitute out from a game into a Pokemon event. Any Pokemon pass?

• 53:09Speaker 02

  Any Pokemon releases? Do they Pokemon release their full schedule for the year?

• 53:12Speaker 03

  No, I know so Pokemon's coming out. There's like two sets coming out like in the next month to three months.

• 53:17Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 53:17Speaker 03

  So I gotta get on that.

• 53:19Speaker 01

  Of course, of course.

• 53:20Speaker 03

  Uh, but in terms of games, I'm like one of those, you know, are you like one of those people that just listen to the same music from like when you're in high school?

• 53:26Speaker 02

  One thousand percent.

• 53:27Speaker 03

  Yeah. That's how I am with game. That's how I am with games. So I'm like, I'll just play Starcraft again. You know what I mean?

• 53:33Speaker 01

  Sick.

• 53:33Speaker 03

  You know what I'm saying?

• 53:34Speaker 01

  I'm excited for RTS event. That will be fun.

• 53:36Speaker 00

  Starcraft is like the classics when it comes to music. It's good.

• 53:39Speaker 03

  War, Command and Conquer, you the one? You the one?

• 53:41Speaker 00

  I played a lot of Red Alert.

• 53:42Speaker 03

  Dude, me too.

• 53:43Speaker 00

  Yeah, dude.

• 53:43Speaker 01

  Pass the coils? The one I played the most was Age of Empires.

• 53:47Speaker 03

  Yeah, so, a further method.

• 53:48Speaker 00

  See, I was an AOE two guy.

• 53:50Speaker 01

  I played AOE two quite a bit too, but I like three.

• 53:52Speaker 00

  My, oh, can I tell you my favorite Age of Empire story?

• 53:54Speaker 01

  Yeah, of course.

• 53:55Speaker 00

  So me and my roommates, we'd all do big Age of Empire battles.

• 53:58Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 53:59Speaker 00

  And it came down to just three of us left.

• 54:01Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 54:01Speaker 00

  Our, it was two on two and one, one, one group, he was new, so he barely had an army and then the other group that was not doing so well. So we're just like, all right, hey, we're gonna, we're gonna destroy the first guy and we're very excited about this. So we come and we just completely wipe out the first guy.

• 54:16Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 54:16Speaker 00

  And then as we were doing that, the other one was just like, oh man, can I like become your ally? Can we do all this? And we're like, sure. So he becomes our ally. But we're like not his ally, so he can't attack us and we start killing him.

• 54:27Speaker 03

  And he just can't attack back?

• 54:28Speaker 00

  And, and then all of his units run up to us and then peacefully protest as we just, just try that. It was.

• 54:36Speaker 03

  Dude, I love backstabbing people.

• 54:38Speaker 00

  Kill you and we're like, I don't know, you just stand there.

• 54:39Speaker 03

  Backstabbing people is so funny.

• 54:41Speaker 01

  My favorite AOE two thing was, Be gonna love this because he loves that I was, uh,

• 54:45Speaker 00

  You built one.

• 54:46Speaker 01

  A good student in, in school and had different experiences than he did in high school. Um.

• 54:52Speaker 00

  We call those nerds.

• 54:53Speaker 01

  Yeah, so my, my AP, my, my AP calculus class.

• 54:57Speaker 02

  He mentions AP calculus like 10 times a day.

• 54:59Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's so true, Vegan. Um, I took when I was a junior, but most of the class was seniors, so there's like three of us.

• 55:07Speaker 00

  We get it, you're smart, D.

• 55:09Speaker 01

  There's three of us.

• 55:09Speaker 02

  He can't help himself.

• 55:11Speaker 01

  It's important to the story. And I ended up teaching the class. No, not in that one. I had a good AP.

• 55:18Speaker 01

  I had a good AP Calc teacher. So. Seniors get out early. I don't know if they did this at your thing where it's just like they're done with school before everyone else.

• 55:27Speaker 00

  I didn't take AP Calc, I don't know.

• 55:29Speaker 01

  No, I'm saying they were literally, they just literally just graduated and were done with school like a few weeks before everyone else.

• 55:33Speaker 00

  Yeah, we didn't, we didn't have that.

• 55:34Speaker 01

  I don't really know why, it seems weird.

• 55:37Speaker 02

  You gotta go to school the whole year? Oh, I guess you guys were dumber.

• 55:40Speaker 01

  Yeah, you did. So anyways, so it's just our teacher and us three. So I figured out how to get AOE 2 on a USB, just a regular USB stick with no, like you didn't have to install or do anything, like just the XQ on there. So we would just get the, like, computers from a computer rack and go bring them into class and we'd just play AOE 2 for the rest of the year with our, with our teacher. And we put it, oh, three of us and the teacher. I'm saying, and he would just, he was like, yeah, let's put it up on the projector.

• 56:06Speaker 00

  So school ends for you too, basically?

• 56:08Speaker 01

  Well, in that class, I'm saying, cause there was no one else.

• 56:10Speaker 00

  He was the only junior, right?

• 56:10Speaker 01

  Right, there's, yeah, there was, there was me and two other juniors, there was no one else, just for that class. I'm saying, what are you supposed to do? We already took the, we already took the AP exam, we did everything else. We just got to play Age of Empires 2.

• 56:19Speaker 00

  How early, how early did it end?

• 56:20Speaker 01

  Two or three weeks.

• 56:21Speaker 00

  Well, what people were you?

• 56:22Speaker 01

  I like playing the Brits, cause I like spamming longbows.

• 56:25Speaker 00

  Dude, I was about to say, you're gonna be a longbow boy, aren't you?

• 56:27Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 56:27Speaker 00

  Hey, you know what?

• 56:29Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 56:30Speaker 00

  Say to you, buddy.

• 56:32Speaker 01

  I don't understand.

• 56:32Speaker 00

  I don't understand, cause I know. That's where the middle finger comes from. They draw it with these two and they, that's why, when you watch British people counting like this, one, two, cause this is F you.

• 56:43Speaker 01

  Oh, interesting.

• 56:44Speaker 00

  Because the French would cut off the fingers from the longbow men.

• 56:47Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 56:48Speaker 00

  That's where our middle finger comes from.

• 56:50Speaker 01

  That's some new lore.

• 56:52Speaker 00

  That's a new lore.

• 56:52Speaker 02

  He's new lore.

• 56:53Speaker 01

  Well, I just liked longbow guys that could shoot from far away, so that was.

• 56:56Speaker 00

  I hate it. Conscript, I will say conscription with, with the longbows and the upgrade is pretty good.

• 57:01Speaker 01

  That's what I liked, so, there you go. That's my AOE 2 story.

• 57:04Speaker 00

  But I always found them, I always found the monogamous unit type of just doing gigantic. Well, you couldn't just spam them. I mean, people just build some horsies and then you die. I know, but I, that's what I wanted was 200 on 200.

• 57:15Speaker 01

  200 out of 200 only longbows walking towards people and every time something showed up on the screen, they just died.

• 57:20Speaker 00

  Yeah, it was very exciting. It was very, very exciting. I like when you got so many that you couldn't select, like you couldn't actually select them all.

• 57:28Speaker 01

  Right, yeah, you had to get them in multiple like control groups.

• 57:31Speaker 00

  Battalions.

• 57:32Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 57:34Speaker 03

  I love, uh, bowmen arrows.

• 57:35Speaker 01

  I knew Beak was gonna make fun of me because of that story, but how it's, I, that's whatever, it's fine.

• 57:39Speaker 02

  We, we get it, we get it. High school is like, he walked into a class, teacher asked a question, answered it right away, says, whoa, whoa, whoa, why don't you just teach? And he came up there and then.

• 57:47Speaker 01

  It did happen in, that did happen in one class.

• 57:49Speaker 00

  He's literally Hermione.

• 57:50Speaker 02

  Yeah, you're, yeah, you're.

• 57:51Speaker 01

  That's actually, that's actually a pretty good analogy. Unfortunately for me, that's a pretty good analogy. Really, unfortunately.

• 57:58Speaker 03

  Did you watch Lord of the Rings?

• 58:00Speaker 01

  Yeah?

• 58:00Speaker 03

  So the two, they're, um.

• 58:01Speaker 02

  What? How could you not?

• 58:02Speaker 01

  I'm like shocked by the question.

• 58:04Speaker 03

  No, no, no, no, well, I'm saying Battle of the Helm's Deep, like when the elves come at the end.

• 58:07Speaker 01

  Okay, yeah.

• 58:07Speaker 03

  And then they're just shooting all the arrows. It's like, I'm like all about arrow warfare, dude.

• 58:11Speaker 01

  Yes. Okay, he was, he was so.

• 58:14Speaker 00

  I'm like, you, we were making fun of him calling him Hermione and you just saved him.

• 58:19Speaker 01

  About the arrows.

• 58:19Speaker 03

  I know, but.

• 58:20Speaker 01

  Thanks Trash, bro. I appreciate that, brother.

• 58:21Speaker 03

  I hope you guys understand like how nerdy I am about like, just like elves and bowmen stuff. It's so cool.

• 58:25Speaker 00

  Are you a little disappointed that the Battle of Helm's Deep did not feature any of the Ents as they did in the book?

• 58:30Speaker 03

  Yeah, I mean, it's fine. It's not the biggest deal. My biggest thing is just, uh.

• 58:35Speaker 01

  Be thankful for what you got. Cause the.

• 58:37Speaker 03

  Dude, I watched the, I watched the Battle of Helm's Deep like 300 times. It's like my favorite.

• 58:41Speaker 00

  My favorite scene is when the ladder comes down and they all start spreading away. That's like, that was a very cool scene.

• 58:47Speaker 03

  I've like examined everything frame by frame just to see like when they get smashed by the rocks, like how, like are they actually getting smashed by the rocks?

• 58:54Speaker 01

  They did. They actually killed real orcs for that.

• 58:56Speaker 03

  I know.

• 58:56Speaker 02

  Well, Trash, are you gonna see, you know, it's in theaters again, right? Lord of the Rings Extended Edition is in theaters.

• 59:01Speaker 03

  Oh.

• 59:02Speaker 02

  Like right now.

• 59:02Speaker 03

  I haven't been to a movie theater in years.

• 59:04Speaker 00

  I know, I actually, if, if it's still in there next weekend, like I'm gonna try to go with the kids.

• 59:08Speaker 02

  Me too, with the kids.

• 59:10Speaker 03

  With the kids.

• 59:10Speaker 02

  I gotta find some kids?

• 59:14Speaker 03

  I was like, what? Alright, now it's just weird.

• 59:17Speaker 00

  Alright, hey, thank you very much for joining us on this very special episode of the stand-up. Uh, hopefully this lightened your loafers a little. I don't think that's the right phrase.

• 59:27Speaker 01

  I don't even know what that means.

• 59:29Speaker 00

  Hopefully this lightened your load?

• 59:31Speaker 02

  I don't think it's also-

• 59:32Speaker 01

  How about just, how about we, hopefully we made you laugh- Lighten your mood. And made you smile today. Lighten the mood, yeah. Take some time to occasionally relax.

• 59:42Speaker 01

  Go ahead, Brian.

• 59:43Speaker 00

  Uh, TJ, thank you for saying it so eloquently, and thank you for being a teacher's pet. I always appreciate that.

• 59:48Speaker 01

  I wasn't a teacher's pet.

• 59:48Speaker 00

  He is the only junior here. He is the junior, obviously.

• 59:50Speaker 01

  I wasn't the teacher's pet. I just-

• 59:52Speaker 02

  He was the teacher.

• 59:54Speaker 01

  I was friends with them.

• 59:55Speaker 00

  He was just a pet.

• 59:55Speaker 01

  I was friends with them, okay?

• 59:57Speaker 02

  Yeah, I wasn't their pet, yeah. We were like best friends.

• 59:58Speaker 01

  We were like best friends, okay?

• 1:00:02Speaker 00

  True, alright. Thank you very much for watching. We have Beegan, we have Trash, we have TJ, and the name is the Primogen. Thank you.

• 1:00:09Speaker 01

  See everybody, bye!

• 1:00:10Speaker 02

  See you next week.