Eli Doubletap

Eli Doubletap (Eli Cuevas) is a veteran, content creator, VFX artist, anime nerd, entrepreneur, and a very funny person. After leaving the military he taught himself to edit and make VFX, leading to the creation of hilarious viral videos that got the attention of people and brands alike. He's also a car enthusiast. His bona fides include: racing in spec Miata for several seasons (where he did quite well); modifying exotics; owning a tiny JDM legend; and buying his dream car. Recorded October 19, 2026 https://www.instagram.com/eli_doubletap/?hl=en https://www.youtube.com/@unsubscribepodcast https://www.pepperbox.tv/ Show Notes DeleteMe Get 20% off your DeleteMe plan when you go to https://joindeleteme.com/tire and use promo code TIRE at checkout. Fitbod Get 25% off your Fitbod subscription or try the app FREE for seven days at https://Fitbod.me/TIRE AG1 Go to https://DrinkAG1.com/TIRE and for a limited time, get a free Immune Support Bundle, including a bottle of Omega-3 fish oil and a bottle of Vitamin D3K2, with your first subscription order of AG1 Next Gen or AG1 Pro. Quince Find your next fall favorites at Quince. Download the Quince app for app-exclusive offers, or go to https://Quince.com. Get free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Now available in Canada and the UK, too. Use Off The Record! and ALWAYS fight your tickets! For a 10% discount on your first case go to https://www.offtherecord.com/TST Want your question answered? Want to watch the live stream, get ad-free podcasts, or exclusive podcasts? Join our Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thesmokingtirepodcast Instagram: https://www. Instagram.com/thesmokingtire https://www. Instagram.com/therealzackklapman

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• 0:00Matt Farah?

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  that's A-V-A-N-T-S dot com slash TST, we can give you an extra 10% off with code TST. Avance slash TST and then code TST. Get your membership today and start saving right away. All right, folks, on this episode of the podcast, we've got Eli Double Tap in studio. This guy is hilarious. His Instagram, his podcast, his videos, and he's got the coolest cars around. I, uh, I did not know a lot about Eli before Zach introduced him to me,

• 1:19Matt Farah?

  but we got along swimmingly and this is a great show. Eli Double Tap is on the Smoking Tire Podcast. Let's go.

• 1:28Speaker 01

  So fast.

• 1:28Matt Farah?

  We should probably get a rep.

• 1:30Speaker 02

  That's super helpful. That's super helpful.

• 1:32Matt Farah?

  Yeah. Well, welcome, uh, welcome, Eli.

• 1:35Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:35Matt Farah?

  Cheers. Welcome. Nice to see you. You have, you have a genre that is no genre. It's all over the goddamn place. I mean, it's fucking crazy. I, I went, I went down a rabbit hole a couple of days ago of your shit and I was like, Zach was like, yo, this dude is hilarious. He drives crazy cars. Like you should check out his shit. And I was like, okay. And I don't understand any of it. I mean, like, it's funny, but it's not, I'm like, if, if someone is like, you know, what does Eli Double Tap do? Obviously it's in the name. There's some guns in there, but outside of that, like, there's like a Broadway tune on your shit about guns. There's like weird car stuff. There's,

• 2:16Speaker 02

  There's like the anime thing.

• 2:17Matt Farah?

  Yeah, there's like 75 genres happening at the same time.

• 2:20Speaker 02

  You were like a VFX editor person. It's a deep role to that. A deep resume.

• 2:24Matt Farah?

  Damn.

• 2:25Speaker 01

  I threw everything at the wall. Everything stuck kind of. And I was like, well, fuck it. I'll just roll with that for this week, the flavor of the week.

• 2:33Matt Farah?

  What was the first thing? Dude, was guns?

• 2:36Speaker 01

  No, VFX, surprisingly. Uh, back in 2010 with Freddie Wong Rocket Jump. Uh, these are like OG YouTubers. This is like Freddie Wong and Rocket Jump was, he was the first individual. He was the number one subscribed YouTuber in 2009 and 10. You're looking at nine million subs.

• 2:55Matt Farah?

  Wow.

• 2:56Speaker 01

  Back in the day. So him and Corridor and then, uh, I was huge fans and I'd watch their content. I was like, I want to do cool skits, action skits and comedy skits and make videos off of it. And I'll learn VFX and then I'll, I'll keep doing that. And three years of doing that with, and doing like personal training, construction, all that, just working a like full-time job and taking care of my kiddo. I was learning and trying to make videos and video game reviews. And then sure shit, I ran into Freddie Wong at PAX, uh, 2013 and, uh, I told my business partner, oh, we should go, we should go.

• 3:38Speaker 01

  And he's like, oh, no, man, it's a waste of money. And I spent my last few dollars going. I was like, okay, I have enough money for my kiddos to do this and then, or I can feed my family. I won't be able to eat, but at least I'll go to PAX.

• 3:51Matt Farah?

  What did you hope would happen there? Other than literally running into this one person, outside of that, what would have made spending your last dollar worth it?

• 4:01Speaker 01

  It was the networking opportunity and I was going out there. I was like, well, I'm into the video game space and doing this. Maybe I'll meet some people or I'll, I'll, I'll get some connections maybe. I don't know. I just want to go network, have fun. And then I ran.

• 4:16Matt Farah?

  The Vegas?

• 4:16Speaker 01

  Uh, this was PAX Seattle, so PAX Prime. And then sure as shit.

• 4:21Matt Farah?

  So at least they know you're not going just because it's Vegas.

• 4:24Speaker 02

  You know what I mean? At least it's like, all right. Honey, it's networking for sure. For sure.

• 4:28Matt Farah?

  Yeah, it's at the win. Poolside. Okay.

• 4:31Speaker 01

  Promise.

• 4:33Speaker 02

  Packing my poker visor rounds.

• 4:35Matt Farah?

  Yeah. I'm bringing my last dollar to network. The win.

• 4:42Speaker 01

  All on Blackbeard.

• 4:43Speaker 02

  It's my lucky coke straw.

• 4:45Matt Farah?

  Baby, Freddie Wong is in the high roller room. I have to get in there.

• 4:51Speaker 01

  Gotta make this happen. And then sure as shit, uh, it was like a 30 minute drive from where I lived, went there and going down the escalator, they're going up. I'm like, holy shit, Freddie Wong. He's like, oh, hey, we're playing video games. Come watch us. They're like, ah, fuck yeah. Went up, watched him, said, what's up? Got a couple of photos and then left. I was like, okay, bye, bye. Hour goes by, I go outside to get a taxi and they walk up next to me and they're getting a taxi. I'm like, oh, what's up? Hey, blah. Oh, random seeing you again. And then, uh, just, okay, see ya. And I went.

• 5:29Matt Farah?

  That story was supposed to be there's his MyBok rolls up to pick him up and he offers you, that's where I thought you were going. He's getting a taxi? I thought this guy had nine million subs. The fuck, bro?

• 5:40Speaker 01

  Well.

• 5:41Matt Farah?

  Shit fell off a little.

• 5:42Speaker 01

  We go to, uh, I go to a bar. They're having a big PAX Prime video game bar and I'm hanging out and drinking, having a good time. And then they walk up and I'm like, yo, what the fuck? Holy shit, random occurrence.

• 5:54Matt Farah?

  You got to accuse them of stalking you before they accuse, right?

• 5:58Speaker 01

  I a hundred percent did.

• 5:59Matt Farah?

  The first person to accuse the other of stalking there, the other one's a fucking creep. Even if it's totally random, one in a million shot, doc.

• 6:08Speaker 01

  And I was like, oh, fuck. Well, hey, can I get you guys a drink? You want to take a shot at anything? Oh, no, we have a party to go to. I was like, oh, well, fucking, can I get one more selfie? And they're like, yeah, yeah, yeah. A hundred percent. Take a selfie. And then they leave to a VIP after party and I'm drinking and, uh, this girl walks up and she's like, hey, what's up? And I was like, yo, what's up? You want a drink? And she's like, yeah, I'll do a drink. So I buy her shot. We do a shot and she's like, you're fun. Do you want to go to this, uh, after party with me? It's for Konami. Kojima's going to be there. I was like, fuck yes. Metal Gear Solid, my, like another dude I love.

• 6:43Speaker 02

  Giant video game studio.

• 6:44Matt Farah?

  Metal Gear Solid was awesome. I don't even play video games and I was a Metal Gear Solid guy.

• 6:49Speaker 01

  My man.

• 6:50Speaker 02

  You can play them online right now for free and burn some of the hour.

• 6:54Matt Farah?

  Really? I did not know this.

• 6:55Speaker 01

  Yep, dude.

• 6:56Matt Farah?

  Good to know.

• 6:57Speaker 01

  And, uh, she was like, you want to come with me? That's my plus one. I was like, let's do this thing. We go, we head out. It's on the top of the Hard Rock Cafe. We walk in and then they're sitting there at the table. I was like, oh, Freddie and them, hey, what's up? And they're like, well, how'd you get in here? I was like, ah, that girl, she invited me. And they're like, well, you can talk to girls? I was like, fuck, yeah. And they're like, how? I was like, okay, boys, come on. And then, because they were just, that was their,

• 7:24Matt Farah?

  That rules.

• 7:25Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 7:25Matt Farah?

  You can't walk around with a gold play button, motherfucker, can you? When the shit goes down, that shit don't mean much in the real world. I should know. I'm good there. No, I swear. I swear. It's real.

• 7:42Speaker 01

  I promise.

• 7:43Matt Farah?

  No, no, they're all plywood.

• 7:47Speaker 02

  We're chipping off pieces of the gold to pay for drinks.

• 7:50Matt Farah?

  We got the silver one. So you, look how long ago that silver one is.

• 7:54Speaker 01

  Oh, that's an OG one.

• 7:55Matt Farah?

  That's an OG. You're talking about this dude like he's old. I made my first YouTube video in 06, motherfucker. I celebrate two decades next month doing this.

• 8:05Speaker 02

  We get a gold watch soon. From whoever owns YouTube.

• 8:09Matt Farah?

  We got that, we got that in 2009.

• 8:12Speaker 01

  That's one of the OG play buttons.

• 8:14Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's made out of rock.

• 8:15Matt Farah?

  Made with a P touch and shit.

• 8:17Speaker 01

  And there was barely any, dude, when you got that, it's so rare. You see those things? It's, it's what's crazy is those old styles, when they're made, you're like, holy shit, there was only like 10 people with a million at that time. This is a non-existent.

• 8:31Matt Farah?

  Yeah, yeah. The gold one, the old school gold one is super rare. Yeah.

• 8:34Speaker 01

  Super rare. They had that big casing.

• 8:36Matt Farah?

  It took us a long time. We've, we got, we stalled in the 900s forever. They fucking got a new generation by the time they got to a million.

• 8:45Speaker 01

  Now they're getting smaller.

• 8:46Matt Farah?

  They are?

• 8:47Speaker 01

  Oh, brother, because I have.

• 8:48Matt Farah?

  Shrinkflation. It's come for a gold play button.

• 8:51Speaker 01

  I have six silvers. So, and they're actually getting smaller. Like we requested new ones and they're like this big now. And then they used to be like that big.

• 9:01Matt Farah?

  You should, there's a, there's a video exposing the shrinkflation of the play button if you want.

• 9:06Speaker 01

  That's actually a really good idea.

• 9:08Matt Farah?

  You should, you know, like they take the photos of kids throughout the years and they layer them and, and make an animation of the kid like growing up, like this, except the play button just.

• 9:18Speaker 01

  Like what the fuck, YouTube?

• 9:20Matt Farah?

  Eventually turns into a lump of coal.

• 9:23Speaker 02

  They jam in more ads and they're like, here's your button. And it's a little button you put on your shirt.

• 9:29Matt Farah?

  Except it tracks you and just steals your physical motion data.

• 9:34Speaker 02

  It electrocutes you if you don't make enough content.

• 9:37Matt Farah?

  It pays you three pennies to train the AI. That's what you're doing.

• 9:40Speaker 01

  Oh, man.

• 9:41Matt Farah?

  Our friend does not have a job right now. Actually, that's not true. He has a job. It's just not the job he wants. And, you know, he's looking at resumes and, you know, all this, all the, all the time, all the time. And it's like, bro, do you know how much average money I could be making right now just training AI to do the dumbest shit imaginable? You know, like shop for groceries, wearing a camera, do the fucking thing, try on shoes, wearing a camera. Just do, uh, do housework, wearing a camera, paint a fence, wearing a camera. And it's just like, and I'm not like, just saying, they're coming for all the jobs.

• 10:22Speaker 01

  Not one, all the jobs.

• 10:24Matt Farah?

  Coming for all of them if they can. They're trying. They're really, really trying.

• 10:29Speaker 01

  It's terrifying how good, again, it's like the Will, Will Smith eating spaghetti. When you see, when it started, there's like faces molding into spaghetti and now it's like, he's having a conversation while eating spaghetti and you're like, I can't tell if that's.

• 10:43Matt Farah?

  No, now it's a deep fake porn of him like getting, getting head while eating spaghetti.

• 10:48Speaker 02

  Him and Carlton.

• 10:51Matt Farah?

  Gassy Jeff is in the background and like everyone had to,

• 10:54Speaker 02

  Still spinning the beats.

• 10:55Matt Farah?

  Everybody's suing each other for leaking a video that they thought really happened.

• 11:00Speaker 01

  Who recorded this?

• 11:03Speaker 01

  What night did that happen?

• 11:04Matt Farah?

  It was on like a shoulder camera.

• 11:07Matt Farah?

  You know?

• 11:08Speaker 01

  So fucking true.

• 11:10Matt Farah?

  That's fucking rules. How do you like this? That's alright.

• 11:12Speaker 01

  Dude, this is delicious.

• 11:14Matt Farah?

  Yamazaki 12. Shout out to the patron that say, sometimes they send, you know.

• 11:18Speaker 02

  Konichiwa, bitches.

• 11:20Matt Farah?

  They send booze to the studio sometimes. They stop by and they leave liquor. It's alright. I don't, I don't hate it.

• 11:26Speaker 01

  When we do live shows, that is the most dangerous thing. We will not, we've done it a couple times. They will, someone will have a wild idea. They're like, oh, I'll send shots to the, the stage and the guys will do them. And we're like, fuck it. Hey, we'll do it. And then this just turns into everyone buying the table shots and sending it up to the front. And you have 2,200 people all trying to get you shit wrecked and you're flying out the next morning to do another live show. I'm 40.

• 11:56Matt Farah?

  Sounds terrible. No, that sounds terrible. That's like, you can't get that precedent going. No, you can't do that. That's like.

• 12:03Speaker 02

  Yeah. How do you close that hatch? You know, like how do you?

• 12:06Speaker 01

  Stop fucking doing your fucking assholes and you put them on. It's a very interactive show.

• 12:10Matt Farah?

  Fucking completely deteriorates to, to just madness, I bet. Oh, man.

• 12:16Speaker 01

  And they love it.

• 12:16Matt Farah?

  You gotta redistribute at a certain point. At a certain point, you just fucking send them off to the tables down here, right? You can't just be doing 18 shots. How many, how big, how big a crowd are you doing?

• 12:25Speaker 01

  2,200 people.

• 12:26Matt Farah?

  Damn!

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• 16:24Speaker 01

  Hell yeah. It's fucking.

• 16:28Matt Farah?

  Big money, Eli Double Tap. That's alright.

• 16:30Speaker 01

  It was, we've done three tours. We started last year, we did, uh, our first tour, we did four shows at 500 seats. Sold those out because amazing audience. Then, uh, last year jumped up to, we did a thousand seats and then 2,000 seats.

• 16:45Matt Farah?

  Damn.

• 16:46Speaker 01

  And then they sold out each time.

• 16:47Matt Farah?

  You booked this, you booked it all yourself?

• 16:49Speaker 01

  WME. They do an amazing, amazing job. They're like, your audience is probably really big right here. So let's test that out. And we only do like six to eight, uh, tours. So yeah, like in three months, we stretch them out like once every three weeks. They're, are you guys done any live shows?

• 17:06Matt Farah?

  We have.

• 17:07Speaker 01

  It's fucking brutal.

• 17:08Speaker 02

  So fun though.

• 17:09Matt Farah?

  We really enjoy them. We're kind of just getting going and we're doing all of it ourselves and we're trying to figure shit out. We're pulling like 250 people.

• 17:17Speaker 01

  Which is awesome.

• 17:18Matt Farah?

  Which is great. I mean, that's a, that's a good time. You know, we're happy to, we're happy to do it.

• 17:22Speaker 01

  Lot when you look out too. It's like, oh, it's only 250 and you look out and you're like.

• 17:26Speaker 02

  Yeah. When you line up all the empty chairs, you're like, oh, okay.

• 17:29Matt Farah?

  No, 2,000.

• 17:29Speaker 02

  Our outline goes, alright.

• 17:30Matt Farah?

  So legit.

• 17:31Speaker 01

  It's fun. It is crazy.

• 17:33Matt Farah?

  Your show for the live show?

• 17:35Speaker 01

  We do an actual, uh, we do one test beforehand. I scripted out. So I know who's going to talk about what, like Fat Electrician. We're gonna have Nick talk, tell a good war story or a piece of history. We're gonna have Rich come out. He'll do his little intro and dress like Hulk Hogan or whoever wants. So each person has a lane that they'll stick in and then I kind of just control it and be like, okay, we're going A, B, C, D. And do it to an hour and 10 minutes. And in the last 20 minutes, we do crowd work, which is the, the, uh, the, not the, the offenders. We have the Avengers, but in the unsubverse, it's called the offenders. So we get a superpower, but then we have an offset. So Cody can fly. Like Cody can fly. He's the superhero that can fly.

• 18:20Speaker 01

  But in order to fly, he has to yell racial slurs. So we find that down.

• 18:26Matt Farah?

  Now that's a Will Smith movie. That's literally Hancock, I think. I actually think that is the movie Hancock. I'm, I'm pretty sure. They toned it down, you know, because I'm pretty sure that was Disney, but like you've just, that was the elevator pitch right there. You fucking nailed that.

• 18:43Speaker 02

  You're like, how bad do you want to fly?

• 18:45Speaker 01

  Well, that's the joke. It's like, man, oh, how bad do I want to say?

• 18:49Matt Farah?

  So alright, here, I'll go, if you, uh, you can fly. Zach Klapman can fly.

• 18:53Speaker 02

  I'm not doing that one.

• 18:54Matt Farah?

  But every time, no, no, you don't need to be, there doesn't need to be an offset for you to yell racial slurs. Obviously that's just, that's.

• 19:01Speaker 01

  Zach's like, just stop.

• 19:02Matt Farah?

  That's just who, that's just who Zach is.

• 19:05Speaker 01

  He looks like one of those.

• 19:07Speaker 02

  I do look like one of my friends. He's like, you have banker face. I'm like, ooh, that's, that's just educated beyond the racism face.

• 19:12Matt Farah?

  But every time you land, instant diarrhea, explosive, the, the, the greatest joy you've ever felt soaring through the air. But in order to show it to somebody, you have to shit yourself the second you land.

• 19:31Speaker 02

  I'll take that deal because the date, the date can be a walking date and then it ends when I fly away and she's very impressed and she doesn't see me land.

• 19:39Matt Farah?

  Yeah. Okay. So the problem is that's like the prestige. You're the man who goes in the box, not the man who comes out. So you never actually get the standing O.

• 19:48Speaker 02

  Hmm. The second time I show up.

• 19:50Speaker 01

  Yeah, the standing O is never for you.

• 19:52Matt Farah?

  No, this is the problem. That's, that is, that's, that's where the prestige goes horribly wrong.

• 19:57Speaker 01

  Oh, I love that. The standing O is such a good reference. That's what.

• 20:02Matt Farah?

  Dude, do you enjoy taking your bows under the stage?

• 20:07Speaker 01

  I do the, I run it through, uh, so my original power was travel at the speed of light like the flash, but I had to shit in order to do that. I was on the brown streak.

• 20:16Matt Farah?

  Yes.

• 20:17Speaker 01

  And then.

• 20:17Matt Farah?

  Like that's your Tesla Roadster accelerator.

• 20:20Speaker 01

  Exactly. Yeah.

• 20:22Matt Farah?

  Warm thrash boosters. Tesla Roadster. It's powered on pure bullshit.

• 20:30Speaker 01

  Dude, poor, also, poor Porsche.

• 20:32Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 20:32Speaker 01

  Dude, they announced the S and then Tesla's like, by the way, here's a Hot Wheels track.

• 20:38Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, and Porsche is like, but our car is so pretty.

• 20:41Matt Farah?

  One of those two cars will make it to customers.

• 20:44Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 20:46Matt Farah?

  Believe you me, one of them will actually be sold.

• 20:50Speaker 02

  But it is a real tortoise and hare pre-R moment where they're like, we're, we also have a car that, does anybody remember any of this? And like, the internet is completely covered, like a blanket just smothered to fire and like, I mean, the customer, they sold all of them probably in five minutes.

• 21:05Matt Farah?

  The Porsches?

• 21:05Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 21:06Matt Farah?

  Oh, before they showed it.

• 21:07Speaker 02

  Yeah, but as far as a media day goes, tough competition.

• 21:12Matt Farah?

  I mean, yeah, you're like, oh, it's some fucking Germans in tweed blazers versus P T Barnum. Who's putting on a better show on a Saturday night, dude? Even if P T Barnum's a little racist, you know, it's still a show, a flipping.

• 21:31Speaker 02

  It's like Tom Cruise, you know, that movie Digger came out and it's not doing very well. It's like if it came out with a new Spider-Man, like, ah, shit, same day, same weekend.

• 21:38Matt Farah?

  Yeah, I'm sure many, many films have eaten shit for that exact reason. I'm not ready to list them, but you know.

• 21:44Speaker 01

  Oh, a lot, dude, I, when I do business, I move shit around in order to not land on certain days. I forget, we just released a video game, it crushed, did great, like, I had a video game come out, um, Scavland, and it landed on, it was supposed to be the week before this massive first person shooter that just happened last month, uh, forget its name, and sure as shit, we planned that. And then they go, oh, by the way, we're gonna open it up a week before, so you can have better, we're like, motherfucker, tried to plan this.

• 22:16Matt Farah?

  When we drive, uh, new cars, you know, they have like, what's called embargoes, which is basically like, where, you know, cause the first person to the internet with an exciting new car wins, right? You know, if everyone had the news of this car, but you drove it and you got up there first, you get all the, so, so basically, because there are only so few cars to go around and people have to share them and make their content, we, everyone sort of agrees to not release some, well, the Germans, specifically Audi, gives less than zero fucks about what might, what is happening around the world on the day they choose.

• 22:54Matt Farah?

  So the day, they have, I have flown across the world to drive a car, only to be told that you may release this at 3 P M. On Thanksgiving Day. Or you may release this at 9 A M. On the 4th of July. I've been told, both of those actual dates happened for cars I flew, and so it's like, you guys just flew me here, you just spent all this money, you rented this racetrack, like, I don't know how, but you're just gonna shoot me in the foot and yourself by having me, having us do this on this very silly date.

• 23:26Speaker 01

  So we are looking at the 9/11, looks like a great day. 9/11, it's like our car.

• 23:34Speaker 01

  Probably not a great, okay, we're gonna launch it.

• 23:36Matt Farah?

  That would be the ultimate.

• 23:38Speaker 02

  Do you remember, there was a couple of years where I think J F. Would tell us that, like, the YouTube algorithm didn't, was not friendly to having 9/11 in the title. You're just like, Porsche G T 3, Porsche G T 2, but just skip the part in the middle.

• 23:51Matt Farah?

  I remember the, or, avoid 9/11.

• 23:54Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 23:55Matt Farah?

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• 24:02Matt Farah?

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• 24:44Matt Farah?

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• 25:28Matt Farah?

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• 26:12Matt Farah?

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• 28:05Speaker 02

  Technically, I wasn't there.

• 28:06Matt Farah?

  Oh, you weren't there?

• 28:07Speaker 02

  I wasn't there.

• 28:08Matt Farah?

  Oh, you weren't on that shoot? Oh, sorry, Thaddeus was on that shoot. I, I, I put you on that shoot. I'm sorry you weren't there.

• 28:13Speaker 02

  But the story continues.

• 28:14Matt Farah?

  So, the question, and there are many, many, many Bin Ladens, right? Um, and he is the nephew of Osama Bin Laden, but there's a lot of them. Like, there's like, the one, and then like, 50 at Osama's level, and then like, 500 at this guy's level. But they have so much money, it's the, it's crazy. So he gets all the money. He has all the money. So, you get all the money, but you gotta keep the name Bin Laden forever.

• 28:46Speaker 01

  Dude, it's like that Hitler. It's like Adolf Hitler was a cool name at one time.

• 28:50Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 28:51Speaker 01

  And then, one day, it became a.

• 28:54Speaker 02

  And Dave Hitler's car collection's amazing, you know, but he's got the name.

• 28:58Speaker 01

  No.

• 29:00Speaker 02

  Where are you from? Argentina? It's not even.

• 29:02Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's not even close.

• 29:03Speaker 02

  I'm not, I'm not from there.

• 29:05Speaker 01

  Are you blond and blue?

• 29:07Speaker 02

  That is, that is a tough thing, like, last name Bundy or whatever it is, you're like, are you at all related by chance to, and you have to really explain it, or not explain it.

• 29:16Matt Farah?

  Yeah, yeah, when you, when you look exactly the same, oh, shit.

• 29:20Speaker 02

  It's Hitler hyphen Chapman. That's.

• 29:27Matt Farah?

  My lawyer said to keep the high fat.

• 29:33Speaker 01

  That's a great, I mean, that offset sucks. He's like, wait, I had, this is how I get the money?

• 29:37Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 29:37Speaker 01

  The family money, but I had, okay.

• 29:39Matt Farah?

  You have to sign every check. Everyone looks at you like this. Forever.

• 29:44Speaker 01

  His social media is at the real Osama bin Laden.

• 29:49Speaker 02

  You're flying to New York. Are you sure you want to go there and sign a hotel bill?

• 29:55Matt Farah?

  Do you, do you, I imagine you meet like a decent number of celebrities, right? And you think every once in a while, come into orbit on the podcast, maybe?

• 30:03Speaker 01

  Yeah, well, it depends. Like, I

• 30:06Speaker 01

  I always say we meet YouTubers a lot more than anything because I'm very blessed to have WME represent and do all that. But then I also look at my other fellow YouTubers and it's like Guns and Bro and it's very much like, ah, they, they don't want to be seen with us. So it's like, ah, we can't.

• 30:25Matt Farah?

  Okay.

• 30:26Speaker 01

  We can't.

• 30:27Matt Farah?

  I was only saying that because I found the more celebrities I do meet, and this is not necessarily to talk about any of these celebrities because I don't, they're not, they're just regular people. They're not that interesting. But the more famous they are, the more easily guessable their email addresses.

• 30:46Speaker 01

  Really?

• 30:47Matt Farah?

  Yeah. It's literally like, it'll be like [email protected] or to that effect. It's not literally Brad Pitt, but there, I could literally name you a huge celebrities right now, which is first name, last name, and the number one at Mac.com. I also have seen like just initials at their own website, like [email protected] actually going to Tom Cruise. Not that name, but that exact structure with the celebrity. I'm not gonna ask if you, was that what it was in the Epstein files?

• 31:20Speaker 01

  Bill Gates at

• 31:22Matt Farah?

  At Microsoft.com.

• 31:23Speaker 01

  That, that was, that's his email. That guarantee you were dreaded that immediately after. He was like, whoa, this is easy.

• 31:30Speaker 02

  So easily searched, yeah.

• 31:31Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 31:31Speaker 02

  But it makes sense because in a corporate structure, it usually is like first name, last name. And then if the company gets too big, they shrink it to like one letter or the other.

• 31:39Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 31:40Matt Farah?

  Zach and I were at an event last weekend and got a, got a big celebrity's email address on a business card and it was hilariously guessable. And yeah, yeah, I, if I have it, I'll show it to you when we're done because it was just very, very funny. To the point where I said something about it. And I was like, you could probably change this. This is crazy.

• 32:01Speaker 01

  Anyone can find.

• 32:02Matt Farah?

  Anybody will guess this. You know what's crazy is they, is people like they could, but they really don't.

• 32:08Speaker 01

  I think it's because it's so simple and you just, it's like, nah.

• 32:11Matt Farah?

  There's no way.

• 32:12Speaker 01

  Nah.

• 32:12Matt Farah?

  Yeah. If you want to email a celebrity, like try the obvious things. You might actually get them.

• 32:17Speaker 01

  Put a one or two in there.

• 32:19Matt Farah?

  Yeah, just add some regular bullshit.

• 32:21Speaker 01

  Really close.

• 32:23Matt Farah?

  What is, uh, you know, for doing like, do you enjoy doing, I mean, you said you, when you were first starting out, you liked doing the skits and stuff. And so now you've got long format with the podcast. Do you prefer one versus the other?

• 32:35Speaker 01

  Dude, I will say I never, podcast was not in the thing of Eli wants to do this and make money with it. It was like, oh, fuck, we drink and we talk after we go to brunch. So let's just do this and record it.

• 32:47Matt Farah?

  This is literally how we started this show. Same exact thing.

• 32:50Speaker 01

  Same fucking thing.

• 32:51Matt Farah?

  We all lived in a house together and our friends were like, you guys, you record this. This is the conversation, the whole thing. Yeah, yeah. You too? That's so funny. How, how long were you doing short before you went long?

• 33:03Speaker 01

  Uh, so I've done commercials, I was doing viral content. So we had just filmed with like Black Rifle or Freddie or any of those guys, your two to five minute format of like, hey, how do I make a viral skit that's going to get like a million to 10 million views? Oh, here's the format for this. Okay. Now let's replicate it. Okay. Now we can replicate that formula. Cool. Let's do that and sell product, shoes, merch, coffee, energy drinks.

• 33:28Matt Farah?

  I liked your shoes you were wearing or were you, was it you or Samantha was wearing the shoes? You were wearing the shoes. They were cool. I like the shoes. I can't, they're too cool for me. I'm not that cool.

• 33:37Speaker 01

  I'll send you some. I know the owner.

• 33:40Matt Farah?

  Dude, I can't believe I just, and I want to talk about your cars because you, you've got some fun ones. But the first thing that's just right on top of your Instagram is this, is this.

• 33:50Speaker 01

  That's wild when I look at it.

• 33:52Matt Farah?

  This, this video, I saw this and I wanted to blow my brains out, to be honest with you. Because this fucking video of you just getting in and starting a GT40, which is lovely.

• 34:05Matt Farah?

  Has 457,000 goddamn likes on it. Just getting in a car and being like, wow, it's fucking hot in here. And then starting the car and driving out of a fucking Buc-E's or wherever you are. That's the whole video. It has 457,000 likes. I want to jump off a bridge.

• 34:28Speaker 01

  That's, and I knew that would happen. I was like, oh, I had my meta glasses. I just turned them on. I was like, I bet this gets a million likes, fucking 4.5 million views.

• 34:37Matt Farah?

  That's so crazy. But I do have a piece of advice for you. You should employ a, um, a putter head cover, a golf club for, for your shifter.

• 34:48Speaker 01

  That's smart, dude.

• 34:49Matt Farah?

  I used to have a metal T-handle in my Mustang back in the day and you want a putter head cover and that'll keep your shit out of the sun.

• 34:56Speaker 01

  Oh, I'm gonna order that tonight.

• 34:57Matt Farah?

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• 35:40Matt Farah?

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• 36:22Matt Farah?

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• 36:56Speaker 01

  That was, um, so that one's actually bought, uh, built. Uh, Super Performance is the one that did the overall. That one's registered historically with Shelby. Shelby gave that one the sign off as an actual, uh, the chassis number with a GT40. Like that is a legitimate.

• 37:15Matt Farah?

  Oh, they'll do CSX numbers on a GT40?

• 37:18Speaker 01

  Dan Gurney have a 1966 Ford GT40, uh, license, uh, title.

• 37:24Matt Farah?

  Oh, wow.

• 37:25Speaker 02

  Whoa.

• 37:25Matt Farah?

  Yeah, cool. What motor's in it?

• 37:27Speaker 02

  That's sick.

• 37:27Speaker 01

  The Dan Gurney 427.

• 37:29Matt Farah?

  Wow.

• 37:30Speaker 02

  Jeez.

• 37:31Matt Farah?

  What, wait, so the Dan, is that a side oiler? Is that, is that, what makes it a Dan Gurney?

• 37:36Speaker 01

  It's the one he wanted for the Le Mans. I'm gonna get pictures.

• 37:42Matt Farah?

  I don't know. I mean, I know a Ford 427 is, is, I wonder if it's, it's not a side oiler, right? Was the motor like a quarter of a million dollars?

• 37:49Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, that's an, that's a.

• 37:52Matt Farah?

  The motor was like a quarter of a million dollars?

• 37:53Speaker 01

  No, motor is, so the, oh, sorry, Westlake, Gurney Westlake. So it's the OG.

• 37:58Matt Farah?

  Oh, these are cool.

• 38:00Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 38:01Matt Farah?

  It's got the Gurney, uh, the valve covers on it.

• 38:03Speaker 01

  Yeah, the ITBs and then it was too speck on how it was built when he raced it. He autographed that one. So.

• 38:11Matt Farah?

  So it's carbureted?

• 38:12Speaker 01

  Yes, sir.

• 38:13Matt Farah?

  Yeah, okay, cool. All right. So it's really not, not modernized very much at all.

• 38:17Speaker 01

  No, it's an uncomfortable, fucking terrible loud piece of shit. It's just built to kill you.

• 38:24Matt Farah?

  I drove, um, I drove one down Hillbank that had a more modern, like 427. And they have like a gold and black one. They let people drive. It was a nasty motherfucker. A really, really cool.

• 38:36Speaker 02

  That's what I was telling you about. We filmed on that show. Lee Keane tried to drive it and we had to take the seat out and he sat against the firewall to fit. And when he got done, people listening, Lee Keane's like 6'5".

• 38:45Matt Farah?

  Yeah, he's really tall.

• 38:46Speaker 02

  And he races, he's done endurance racing, you know, Nurburgring and he's like, I don't know how they drove these things at endurance because this is insane compared to the GT3s he drives. It's like, those are the limousine.

• 38:56Matt Farah?

  No, these, these things are really, really nasty.

• 38:58Speaker 01

  The Dan Gurney bump. So usually Dan Gurney had actual bump. Uh, do you remember?

• 39:04Speaker 02

  The bubble, yeah.

• 39:04Matt Farah?

  Yeah, the Gurney bubble. Yeah. Yours does not seem to have that.

• 39:07Speaker 01

  No, because I'm not that tall.

• 39:11Speaker 01

  I am a short, short guy.

• 39:13Speaker 02

  I zoomed down here so you look tall.

• 39:14Matt Farah?

  It does have the AAR logo on it. That's pretty cool. I like the, uh, the martini sticker. It's got a, a period livery on it, which is fun.

• 39:22Speaker 01

  That's his.

• 39:23Matt Farah?

  You've gone with the center shifter, not a sill shift.

• 39:26Speaker 01

  No, yep, on the, on the right side, on the right side.

• 39:28Matt Farah?

  I gotta say, a sill shift is a G move if you are, if, cause, cause super performance will build you one anyway. You can have it your way, like a Whopper. So you can have the shifter in the left sill, the fucking middle or the right.

• 39:44Speaker 01

  And then your right side. And that would have been real. I, I, the guy, when he had this one built and he babied the shit out of this. He like, and he did period at like real GT four. Everything is, oh, I'm buying actual GT forty parts for this car to make it as legitimate as possible. Magnesium wheels, like, oh yeah, like fucking twelve. Things are massive and they will, nothing.

• 40:09Matt Farah?

  Yeah, yeah, those are cool.

• 40:10Speaker 01

  Taking them off is that lead.

• 40:12Matt Farah?

  You have a mallet?

• 40:13Speaker 01

  Yep, the lead, yep, lead mallet.

• 40:14Matt Farah?

  Do you have a safety wire?

• 40:16Speaker 01

  Safety wire, yeah. Oh, fuck, yeah.

• 40:18Matt Farah?

  Yeah, yeah. No, I mean, these are, and I, and I imagine he did not put air conditioning in this car.

• 40:24Speaker 01

  He did, actually.

• 40:25Matt Farah?

  Oh, it's got AC in it? Does it work? Kinda?

• 40:27Speaker 01

  Texas heatin'.

• 40:28Matt Farah?

  I mean, cause you've just got the little, the little tiny windows.

• 40:33Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 40:33Matt Farah?

  Those don't even slide. Those look like they just pop out.

• 40:36Speaker 01

  Yep, that's it. Yeah, there's no rolling down.

• 40:38Matt Farah?

  Crazy. Like I have a Countach and you know, the window, it's half of a half. Like the bottom half goes down, but only halfway. And so it's like, it's, but it's something, you know what I mean? This is not, there's nothing. That's gotta be brutally hot.

• 40:55Speaker 01

  And you, I mean, you already know that firewall is right there. The engine's sitting right in you. So you're just like, oh my God, I am boiling alive.

• 41:03Speaker 02

  Why did you buy this? Like, was this your poster dream car forever? And if so, why?

• 41:08Speaker 01

  McLaren F1 and then the GT forty. McLaren F1 is well out of my fucking price.

• 41:14Matt Farah?

  Yeah, how convenient that one of those is one percent of the cost of the other one.

• 41:17Speaker 02

  That's insane.

• 41:18Matt Farah?

  Even if it's still really expensive, that's, you know.

• 41:20Speaker 01

  And I've wanted, uh, I mean, since Need for Speed two is like nineteen ninety seven, uh, for the original PlayStation. That McLaren F1 was that, one of the cars in that game. And I remember watching that video. It's like, this is the most dope car I have ever seen. They, you can actually watch that OG McLaren F1 Need for Speed two video. And that just had my little kid brain like, I need this. I was like thirteen probably at the time. And then after that, again, I was a poor ass Mexican. So I was like, well, never gonna have any of those. And man, a GT forty. And I really like that, like that duck bill. Sixties, the seventies body style. The ass on those cars are just like.

• 42:01Matt Farah?

  Oh, yeah. In fact, you should remove the bumper on the modern ones if you, if you own one. But you know what's great about stuff like this? I mean, it's the fact that this is your dream car. You're actually quite fortunate. Because something like this, like miles, like who gives a shit? The miles don't mean anything. It's like, it's the, you, this is for you to drive. And eventually if you did decide to sell it, like nobody's going to give a shit. What, does it even have an odometer?

• 42:31Speaker 01

  It actually only has thirty five hundred miles on it.

• 42:33Matt Farah?

  Okay, but like nobody, nobody will care. Like it's just like, does it run good? Yeah, okay. Like that's it. So like, it's a great, it's a great dream car to have. Because you won't be too motivated by, uh, an investment value to like not drive it, which would be a bummer. You want, you wanna be able to just go drive it. Not really think about that bullshit.

• 42:54Speaker 01

  We were talking about that earlier. It was just having like, I have a Cayman SY body, cause it's like cut into.

• 43:00Matt Farah?

  A black joint? I saw that. I saw that thing. Yeah, yeah.

• 43:03Speaker 01

  McLaren, same thing. It's just getting back with the new turbos, new fucking exhaust system, new tune, it one oh four race gas. Like I want to fucking drive my cars. I am very big on, it's built to be on the track and on the road. Have fun with it.

• 43:18Matt Farah?

  You put big turbos on a McLaren?

• 43:20Speaker 01

  Bigger turbos, yeah.

• 43:21Matt Farah?

  On what kind of McLaren?

• 43:23Speaker 01

  Uh, MP four twelve C, so I didn't care if it fucking.

• 43:25Matt Farah?

  Oh, yeah. You're, you're really doing it. Tell me it's got slidey doors. It has swipey doors?

• 43:31Speaker 01

  It has the swipey doors.

• 43:32Matt Farah?

  Bro, you're fucking full.

• 43:34Speaker 01

  They actually work too.

• 43:35Matt Farah?

  You are full brand. Go for it. All right. Let's fucking go.

• 43:40Speaker 01

  I was like.

• 43:40Matt Farah?

  You're a coat hanger already, just in case? That's fucking great. God bless you. Doing a huge, is it a ten or an eleven?

• 43:48Speaker 01

  Uh.

• 43:49Matt Farah?

  Twenty ten or twenty eleven?

• 43:50Speaker 01

  Twenty twelve.

• 43:51Matt Farah?

  Twenty, it's a twelve? Okay. They've got over some of the hurdles by then.

• 43:54Speaker 01

  That's why dude, I.

• 43:55Matt Farah?

  They didn't fucking throw the swipey doors away just yet, but then if you had an eleven, I would have to go get some holy water from the church up the street. And fucking do one of these shits on you and burn some incense.

• 44:10Speaker 01

  They're just like, oh, is it gonna work? As you're saying, and thankfully the guy, mine has thirty thousand miles, cause they're like, hey, if it gets past twenty thousand, you're pretty.

• 44:19Matt Farah?

  Yeah. If it makes it that long, it'll last forever.

• 44:22Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's, and literally you start researching, you're like, holy shit. That's literally what people care for. It's just get past that hurdle. Car should be good for a while.

• 44:31Matt Farah?

  Well, that's the, the secret to all McLarens is the high mile ones are the good ones. Like if you just buy one of them things and then just use it as your car, it'll work great. If it sits and you drive it once a month, you're gonna have a nightmarish experience.

• 44:47Speaker 01

  Dude, that one guy that dailies his Enzo, it's one of my favorite stories.

• 44:51Matt Farah?

  Oh, Barry?

• 44:51Speaker 02

  That's so cool.

• 44:52Speaker 01

  Do you know, oh, I.

• 44:53Matt Farah?

  Barry, yeah, I know Barry. He kept it here.

• 44:55Speaker 01

  He had like a hundred thousand miles on that?

• 44:57Matt Farah?

  No, Barry's not that guy. There is, there's no, no.

• 45:00Speaker 01

  I was like, you know, the guy that's just like, hey, I gotta go to the grocery store. Enzo.

• 45:05Matt Farah?

  Barry's got like forty something thousand on his. And he has an Instagram for that car that's like, share the Enzo. Um, he had an ice race. He tapped the wall with it in an ice race.

• 45:17Speaker 02

  Oh, that guy.

• 45:18Matt Farah?

  Yeah, just a little bit. And then he sent it again.

• 45:21Speaker 02

  He did. He went back out there. He hit an ice wall with it. Low speed, but still.

• 45:25Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 45:25Speaker 01

  It's the carbon fiber, low speed, still carbon fiber, low speed.

• 45:28Matt Farah?

  It's a real pointy schnoz.

• 45:30Speaker 02

  Fragile.

• 45:31Speaker 01

  That's probably my least favorite F series of Ferrari.

• 45:35Matt Farah?

  Yeah, they're weird looking. And, and in the car, have you, have you driven one?

• 45:38Speaker 01

  No.

• 45:39Matt Farah?

  If you were to drive one today, especially after you've driven a McLaren with big turbos on it, you're gonna be like, wah, wah. Um, but, uh, he's got like forty something thousand, but there's a guy, there was a guy with like a hundred thousand also. I don't remember that person. It's black, right?

• 45:56Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 45:56Matt Farah?

  The black one. Barry's is red. Yeah, yeah. The black one is a hundred thousand mile one. Which like, respect.

• 46:02Speaker 01

  Dude, I, I love that. That guy is, uh, it's no different than, um, uh, Mr. Bean with his McLaren F1.

• 46:09Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 46:10Speaker 01

  The doctor that was the one that found out McLaren had a misfire in the sixth gear at like two hundred and ten miles per hour. And he was the one that helped diagnose that and McLaren fixed it for their F1s. Cause he was dailing it.

• 46:23Matt Farah?

  Cause he was ripping it.

• 46:25Speaker 01

  Yeah. They were like, your average speed is two hundred and twenty miles. He's like, yeah, I'm on the auto, but I have to get to work. And they're like, what the fuck? Yeah, we've never had this issue. They found it.

• 46:35Speaker 02

  Yeah, no one's ever called him like, it misfires at two hundred and ten miles per hour. And they're like, we didn't even go that fast.

• 46:39Matt Farah?

  My, uh, you know, my dad worked for Ralph Lauren for many years and Ralph has, has, has three McLaren F1s.

• 46:45Speaker 01

  You know, Jordan, uh, one of my buddies, he also worked for Ralph.

• 46:48Matt Farah?

  I mean, this is my father, fucking twenty, twenty years ago. I, I, I know Ralph and like four other people in that company twenty years ago.

• 46:55Speaker 01

  This would have been that timeframe. That's why I was like, that's what.

• 46:58Matt Farah?

  I don't know. Um, but, uh, Ralph, you know, one of his McLarens wasn't working properly. And he plugged in the fourteen four modem onboard to call England, which it does. And two guys in tweed jackets showed up and they told him, they drove it around for a little bit. And they told him to shift it higher. And then they flew back to England. And that was it.

• 47:17Speaker 01

  Rev it higher?

• 47:18Matt Farah?

  That was it. Shifted higher.

• 47:20Speaker 02

  Gotta clear it out.

• 47:20Matt Farah?

  Gotta blow that motherfucker out, dude.

• 47:22Speaker 01

  The cars like to be, dude, the G, that car is still my favorite. I like the Porsche McLaren, that, like all of them, love them, new cars, man, great. That thing is so mechanical. I would not trade that for the world. That is the one I'm like, no, this is, this is my baby.

• 47:37Matt Farah?

  Yeah, it's a sensory machine, you know? I get it.

• 47:40Speaker 01

  It wants to kill you.

• 47:41Speaker 02

  Yeah, and it looks amazing. I mean.

• 47:44Matt Farah?

  Yeah, that's a real good time.

• 47:45Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's gorgeous.

• 47:46Speaker 01

  Thirty eight inches instead of forty.

• 47:48Speaker 02

  Oh, right. It's super tiny.

• 47:50Matt Farah?

  It's extra, it's extra, extra low.

• 47:52Speaker 02

  Well, then we went downstairs, Matt, and he saw like the new GT. He's like, man, these things are huge. You know, well, nobody says that, but compared to that, it is.

• 48:00Matt Farah?

  O five GT?

• 48:00Speaker 01

  No, I haven't driven one. That one's, uh.

• 48:03Matt Farah?

  Little splash?

• 48:04Speaker 01

  Yes, sir. Thank you, sir.

• 48:05Matt Farah?

  That, that's the best car of all time, probably. Other than, I mean, McLaren F1 I'll give you, but like, south of, you know, designed by Gordon Murray sit in the middle. The O five Ford GT is about as good as cars get. Seriously.

• 48:19Speaker 02

  I, I'm gonna take your word for it. It was so like, I told you, we borrowed that one in Detroit. So easy to drive, but so powerful. Can withstand so much boost if you wanna put it in there. Like the, the aero works to whatever hundreds of miles per hour. Um, not the best track car, cause it's like, doesn't have a ton of downforce, but it's just, and it is, it is a visceral machine in a fairly modern era where that was getting muted out, I think.

• 48:44Matt Farah?

  It's like, it's, it's, the inputs are all perfect. Steering input, the shifter, the slickness of the shifter, like all that shit is just ace.

• 48:52Speaker 01

  Just mechanic.

• 48:53Speaker 02

  Yeah, DAFOR still looks like a concept car, which is really, really cool. I mean, most of it, unless you look at the door panel, like that's the only time it starts to look cheap, but everything else just looks like amazing, like car show stuff.

• 49:03Matt Farah?

  Well, the door panel looks kind of like a modernized version of the old door.

• 49:07Speaker 02

  It does, but it's like, it's when you see the plastic arrive, I think. The rest of the car still looks like aluminum and hides it well.

• 49:13Matt Farah?

  It still had to be a little bit of fork. But they've aged, they've aged very, very well. And these, these older ones, the super performance ones are fucking cool, man.

• 49:20Speaker 01

  They just did such a good job. And then it was registered in like the history of like the historical book and all that with Shelby team. I was like, cool, this is an actual, has all the documentation. It's.

• 49:33Matt Farah?

  You should go down to Turlingwa, Texas with it, which is where Carroll Shelby's chili cook.

• 49:38Speaker 01

  Chili cook. We do, we're actually doing a video there. So, uh, yeah, we're trying to get it in the.

• 49:42Matt Farah?

  Bring that.

• 49:43Speaker 01

  Going, done, done and done.

• 49:45Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah. Cause on the Venn show, you guys were talking about the chili thing, right?

• 49:48Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 49:48Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 49:49Matt Farah?

  So I actually make chili a lot at home and I use Carroll Shelby's chili seasoning. Like you buy it in the, at Ralph's and it's good. Like I swear, I don't use his recipe necessarily. I add my own vegetables and I get really good meat and whatever. But I use his fucking spice packet for my, and it's really, really good. Straight up.

• 50:11Speaker 02

  It's got Ferrari tears in it. That's why it's so good.

• 50:14Matt Farah?

  But Tlingit, if you want to drive fast, Tlingit, Texas is fucking where it's at. Cause the roads are amazing down there, for real.

• 50:21Speaker 01

  No shit.

• 50:22Matt Farah?

  It's on the Rio Grande and there's a road called the Presidio Highway. Pull it up, Zach. The, the Ligitas Resort. L I J I T A S.

• 50:30Speaker 01

  Spanish, don't you?

• 50:31Matt Farah?

  Huh?

• 50:32Speaker 01

  You speak Spanish?

• 50:33Matt Farah?

  The shittiest Spanish. If I have three more drinks, I'll be fluent.

• 50:37Speaker 01

  I was like, I can use.

• 50:38Matt Farah?

  I can order a burrito or get a cab. It's about it.

• 50:41Speaker 01

  I can get a beer, go restaurant.

• 50:44Matt Farah?

  Pull up the map. So this, it's on the Rio Grande. Where are we here?

• 50:50Speaker 01

  The west Texas thingy. Long draw pizza.

• 50:53Matt Farah?

  Look, look west. Okay, so look west. Yeah, so somewhere, somewhere on the river, Ligitas, that's it. On the river, there's the road that is called the Presidio Highway. That is the last road that was built, I think, in America before they put limits on how much banking they can put into road. So zoom out further, Zach. This road, it runs to the west of this. It's that whole thing that goes through Big Bend. It's 170. This road in that GT40 would be what Carroll Shelby wanted. But I have like big ass titty bitches everywhere.

• 51:32Speaker 01

  Just America.

• 51:33Matt Farah?

  Not my wife. People not my wife. I love everybody. Just showing me their titties as I drove by. What it's like to be Carroll Shelby. But this road is fucking epic and a must drive if you're going to be in Tlingit, Texas.

• 51:47Speaker 01

  No shit.

• 51:48Matt Farah?

  You should do it in the GT40. There's like one cop in the whole county. So you see that motherfucker go the other way. That's it. You're free.

• 51:55Speaker 01

  Dude, I got a Purple Heart plate. I can get, they'll pull me over anyway.

• 52:00Matt Farah?

  You strap that shit on when you drive fast.

• 52:03Speaker 02

  It's on the plate.

• 52:03Speaker 01

  It's in my license plate. So they'll walk up and be like, hey, and thankfully with all the guys on the podcast, we're, we have an amazing loyal support by military and Leo. So they'll walk up, they'll be like, oh shit, hey, what's up Eli? Love the stuff. And then they'll be like, you slow down. I'm like, I will.

• 52:22Speaker 02

  They're pointing at the body cam like, you slow it down. Like, I will for sure.

• 52:27Matt Farah?

  Yeah, that's.

• 52:28Speaker 01

  One of the benefits. We've got.

• 52:30Matt Farah?

  Look at that. Purple Heart fucking, was it worth it?

• 52:33Speaker 01

  Oh dude, a hundred percent.

• 52:37Speaker 02

  We're talking in the car. I learned that if you're in Texas, you don't have property tax. If you have, is it veteran or Purple Heart?

• 52:42Speaker 01

  Purple Heart and VA disability rating.

• 52:46Matt Farah?

  Get out of here.

• 52:47Speaker 01

  So no property tax.

• 52:48Speaker 02

  They should have that. Like, it should happen in every state, but you can answer the question.

• 52:51Matt Farah?

  But like, that's like an Armageddon when Bruce Willis is like, eh, none of them want to pay taxes again, ever.

• 52:57Speaker 01

  Which dude.

• 52:57Matt Farah?

  That should just be a thing.

• 52:58Speaker 02

  It should be a thing.

• 52:59Speaker 01

  Dude, I would be a hundred percent set with that.

• 53:01Matt Farah?

  That was straight.

• 53:02Speaker 01

  You get, we have airport parking's free and you can park right up front and you get 60 days, you get.

• 53:09Matt Farah?

  Bored first. I tripped, I tripped them motherfuckers. No.

• 53:12Speaker 01

  That's what I do. Certain parking places or restaurants will have Purple Heart parking. And I've, I've done it before. I'll swoop in before my buddy Crispy. And Crispy, he got blown up, burned over 60% on his body.

• 53:25Speaker 02

  Is that why he's named Crispy?

• 53:26Speaker 01

  Yeah. Okay. He's missing a leg, fingers. He got real fucked up.

• 53:30Matt Farah?

  And I'll take his parking spot.

• 53:33Speaker 01

  I have two working legs. I'm like, you still got the same medal as me, bitch.

• 53:37Matt Farah?

  That's so fucking funny.

• 53:39Speaker 01

  Love you, Crispy.

• 53:39Matt Farah?

  You have to like, you beat the shit out of each other for like, who's more fucked up and gets the Purple Heart spot? I, I, I hope.

• 53:46Speaker 02

  Host is on the phone with a cop. She's like, a guy is hitting another guy with a prosthetic leg.

• 53:50Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 53:50Speaker 02

  And they're like, oh, don't worry about it. That's just Eli.

• 53:55Matt Farah?

  Rental car race to get to that spot, dude, just smashing into each other. That's crazy. I hope I have, I hope I have friends good enough in my life that if something like that happened to me, they could call me Crispy and we could all laugh about it together.

• 54:09Speaker 01

  That's how it should be.

• 54:11Matt Farah?

  Oh man, if you fucking get too close to that car, you get crispy. GT40, they'll burn you fucking ass, right?

• 54:18Speaker 01

  Oh yeah, that's dude, again, it's, I love it.

• 54:21Matt Farah?

  What else is in this stable? This wide body Cayman?

• 54:23Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 54:24Matt Farah?

  And is there, is there, uh, performance work done to this thing? Or is it just, just looking cool?

• 54:30Speaker 01

  It's, uh, full soul exhaust, downpipe headers.

• 54:33Matt Farah?

  Shout out to them.

• 54:34Speaker 01

  Um, and then tuned, but we're going to be doing an LT or an LX swap, LSX swap. Yeah, I wanna.

• 54:41Matt Farah?

  Who's doing it?

• 54:42Speaker 01

  Uh, my buddy, actually, Trumper. Yeah, he's, the vehicles he has built, and when he mods his, like, he's a big Corvette guy. It is, it's like a thousand horsepower NA build that he's done and it is a goddamn monster. And he's autistic about it. So I was like, well, we should do this.

• 54:59Matt Farah?

  We got sent a shop, a shop, oh, that looks pretty good. I like that. That's pretty cool. Yeah. Well, you, you got enough tire to fucking do, do it.

• 55:07Speaker 01

  Oh, it's got some 325s in the rear.

• 55:10Speaker 02

  Tell me about the cappuccino.

• 55:11Matt Farah?

  So a shop, a shop in Florida sent us a Cayman that they put a, a, a built Coyote V8, Ford V8 in the backup.

• 55:21Speaker 01

  God damn.

• 55:22Matt Farah?

  And it revved higher than the Cayman engine. The Cayman engine that came out revved to like 7200. This thing went to 8500. And it made 550 horsepower. It's still had air conditioning. And it was like a Daytona prototype. I mean, it was fucking mental. Uh, and it was, it worked the stock gearbox, not the stock clutch, but, but, but everything else, the gauges, the HVAC, like everything else worked in the car.

• 55:50Speaker 01

  They can handle to like, the stock transmission can handle like 600, 650, I think. So I mean, it's well within those numbers.

• 55:57Matt Farah?

  And it's built that mid. But yeah, consider, consider a four cam Ford also, cause for the refs.

• 56:03Speaker 02

  Ooh, because when we drove, we got a ride in that T1 Raptor thing. It's like mid-engine, uh, the car winning truck that Ford built, but in the back was, uh, like the new Coyote, but they had done an eight to one collector. So it sounded like an F1 car.

• 56:17Matt Farah?

  It was crazy.

• 56:17Speaker 02

  Naturally aspirated, fast enough. And I mean, it's like a mid-engine trophy truck that carries its own spare tires.

• 56:22Matt Farah?

  No, not flat. Crank, but the eightish rad made it sound like an F1 car. It was nuts. Yeah.

• 56:30Speaker 01

  I need to hear that.

• 56:30Matt Farah?

  There's, there are clips of it somewhere. I'm sure Zach could probably find it.

• 56:33Speaker 01

  It's not, it's not a Raptor, obviously. They call it a Raptor. I love it. A car company's like.

• 56:41Matt Farah?

  Yeah, when you see a photo of it, it's a, it's a rally car on Raptor wheels, basically.

• 56:46Speaker 01

  Pretty much. God damn.

• 56:48Matt Farah?

  Yeah, we got to go for rides in that thing.

• 56:49Speaker 01

  How, dude, how, how, does, it's crazy how the suspension works on those, cause it is floating. And you're like, oh, this is gonna be a brutal ride.

• 56:58Matt Farah?

  No, it's nice. It was good. And the weight transfer was amazing. You know, you really, you could just, they could just move the weight all over the place. And it's just like, you just set it and wait and then whoop, whoop, and it was like, you know, just crazy.

• 57:13Speaker 02

  It squats, I mean, it moves around. I was telling you to go to rally school, cause you feel the weight transfer, which, you know, happens on track. But with a car with a stiff suspension, you don't feel it as much.

• 57:22Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 57:22Speaker 02

  Something like this, it dives like a foot and then it leans back a foot and rolls and stuff. But the dude driving it, I can't remember his name. He's the kid who, he's like 24 and.

• 57:31Matt Farah?

  He had kind of a rednecky name. He was like a, like a NASCAR family.

• 57:34Speaker 02

  But he was the third of something.

• 57:36Matt Farah?

  That's what I mean.

• 57:41Matt Farah?

  Jim and Diana the third.

• 57:48Matt Farah?

  It was like consonant OU something, you know? I don't remember, but it was, it was, yeah, it was generational.

• 57:55Speaker 02

  Yeah. But the suspension was so good, cause this was back when I had a herniated disc. My back was like in pain. We were at King of Hammers. And I was like, I'm not sure if I'll ride in this. And Matt gets out, he rode first. He goes, you'll be fine. And so you're hitting these whoops and it just soaks everything up. And it's got the hydraulic bump stops. Trophy truck things are my favorite vehicle on planet.

• 58:13Matt Farah?

  Yeah. No, that is a good time. And you should go to rally school. Uh, go to Austin, Texas, Dave.

• 58:19Speaker 02

  Rally ready, man.

• 58:20Matt Farah?

  Rally ready will do it. Yeah. Or if you like Seattle, Dirtfish is lovely. I hear cappuccino. Is there a cappuccino?

• 58:27Speaker 01

  There's cappuccino in the works.

• 58:28Matt Farah?

  What are we doing with this cappuccino? V8?

• 58:30Speaker 01

  Just a small, uh, built Busa motor with forged rods, turboed 400, 400, 450 horsepower.

• 58:38Matt Farah?

  That's a good idea.

• 58:38Speaker 01

  Uh, sequential box, uh, wide.

• 58:41Matt Farah?

  Motorcycle gearbox? Just the motorcycle box?

• 58:43Speaker 01

  No, we're actually doing a full, uh, man, what are they putting in? Sorry, he's, I'm having this one built. Like, I gave him a money.

• 58:50Matt Farah?

  It's like a racing gearbox?

• 58:52Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 58:52Matt Farah?

  Is it sequential with a clutch pedal?

• 58:54Speaker 01

  No clutch.

• 58:56Matt Farah?

  Is it, is it an 8HP? No, a motorcycle gearbox couldn't, a motorcycle engine wouldn't spin an 8HP properly.

• 59:03Speaker 02

  Probably not. Probably too heavy. 8HP is a transmission that's like in Dodge Rams.

• 59:06Matt Farah?

  It might be like a radical transmission or something.

• 59:09Speaker 02

  That would work.

• 59:09Matt Farah?

  That would work.

• 59:10Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 59:12Matt Farah?

  You, are you sure you don't need a clutch pedal to start off the line?

• 59:15Speaker 01

  Maybe to start off the line. Yes, yeah. Yes, because it's gonna be like the Formula Fords. It'll be like the F4.

• 59:20Matt Farah?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 59:21Speaker 01

  So clutch, start going and then it's in gear and then you're just ripping.

• 59:23Matt Farah?

  They're probably, I bet you they're doing a built version of the, will have reverse.

• 59:29Speaker 01

  Yes, it will have reverse.

• 59:30Matt Farah?

  A proper reverse gear?

• 59:32Speaker 01

  Yes, a proper reverse.

• 59:33Matt Farah?

  All right, then it's a car gearbox. Okay. All right. That'll be interesting. That'll be really cool. Good times.

• 59:38Speaker 02

  It's gonna be insane. It's gonna be like a square.

• 59:39Matt Farah?

  Fucking nuts.

• 59:40Speaker 02

  Cause they're like that long. And if you widen it, that's gonna be his track car.

• 59:43Matt Farah?

  Those wide.

• 59:44Speaker 01

  Yeah, wide body, wide wheels. Dude, finding wheels in that, dude, we got so much arrow going into it.

• 59:50Speaker 02

  Remember Frank's Lotus? That's what this thing reminds me of. It's smaller. Like, it's a square, but it has tons of power.

• 59:56Speaker 01

  Downforce, wide body.

• 59:57Matt Farah?

  Putting a top on it? Hard top, hard top. Okay. What, what tire sizes? Thirteens, fourteen?

• 1:00:04Speaker 01

  They were originally fourteen by, dude, I want to say like fourteen by fives or like five and a half. They're little things and we're trying to get fifteen by nines.

• 1:00:15Matt Farah?

  Sure.

• 1:00:16Speaker 01

  Maybe fifteen by tens will be the, like pushing the limit on it.

• 1:00:20Matt Farah?

  You gotta, you gotta call Watanabe. You gotta go, you gotta go to Japan. That's what you need. You need a mission. I think that might be, I think, I think the Pal has the wheels that would fit it. Is it four bolt or five bolt? Do you know?

• 1:00:33Speaker 01

  Four bolt.

• 1:00:34Speaker 02

  Dude, for now, you gotta put fives on it. You're gonna twist this thing apart.

• 1:00:38Matt Farah?

  I, so my wife drives a Nissan Pal. You know what that is?

• 1:00:42Speaker 01

  Beautiful. I loved it.

• 1:00:43Matt Farah?

  We have, we have real Watanabes on it. I bought it with them. And the only tires I can buy that fit these fucking wheels are like slicks. They're like R compound track, literally. They're like Yokohama R compound.

• 1:00:57Speaker 01

  Like a triple eight.

• 1:00:58Matt Farah?

  For my wife to like, yeah, for my wife to like putter to brunch in this 57 horsepower car. Like, it's crazy. She's like, Matt, how come, how come so much gravel gets kicked up? Maybe because I could pull six Gs in this car.

• 1:01:18Speaker 01

  That box is like.

• 1:01:21Matt Farah?

  If you corner two, it's just gonna roll. Like it's just gonna catch and fucking flop over. It's no horsepower, a slush box. Oh my god, and just like F1 level grip. So stupid. And because it doesn't weigh anything, you run like 24 PSI.

• 1:01:42Speaker 01

  Dude, see, that's why I got so, mine by fucking chance, by chance, I live out Bernie, Texas. It's like North San Antonio, nice little area. I'm joking around on Facebook. I was like, oh, let me just type in cappuccino. If once for a sell, once for a sell, four miles from your location, already registered United States, everything done six grand by now. I was like, called the dude up. I was like, hey, what's up? Is this a real ad? He's like, yeah, uh, just put it up. I was like, I will come by it today. He was like, oh, okay. Okay. I was like, why are you getting rid of it? My wife doesn't like it. I'm like, probably not understandable. I will take it.

• 1:02:22Matt Farah?

  Don't worry, sir. Mine won't either.

• 1:02:26Speaker 01

  Went, bought it and I was like, this is gonna be the project track car. God, this is my little retarded go kart. I'm gonna have so much fun.

• 1:02:33Speaker 02

  It is pretty good.

• 1:02:35Matt Farah?

  I mean.

• 1:02:36Speaker 01

  I raced spec Miata series for like a couple of years. So, yeah, so going from that with the SCCA, I was like, oh man, this would be fun.

• 1:02:44Speaker 02

  You're like, what if I had horsepower in a Miata?

• 1:02:47Speaker 01

  Exactly.

• 1:02:48Speaker 02

  And less weight. Wow, that's pretty creative.

• 1:02:52Matt Farah?

  Turbo Busas, alright.

• 1:02:54Speaker 01

  1500 pounds, that thing is going.

• 1:02:55Matt Farah?

  That's gonna rip.

• 1:02:56Speaker 02

  You are gonna, well, you have nine inch tires. Otherwise you're gonna light them up down the whole straight, anywhere you go.

• 1:03:01Speaker 01

  We're putting a tiny roll cage in it, cause also it's terrifying driving on, it does not, like that picture does not do justice. Go to cappuccino versus F150.

• 1:03:11Matt Farah?

  Oh no.

• 1:03:12Speaker 01

  Watch the size difference. I pulled up to my friends, they started dying, dying.

• 1:03:17Speaker 02

  Oh my god.

• 1:03:18Speaker 01

  That one in the, right, right there.

• 1:03:21Speaker 02

  Whoa.

• 1:03:23Speaker 01

  I pulled up to our little brunch spot in it and they started dying laughing. They were like, holy fuck dude.

• 1:03:31Speaker 02

  That's why I stopped going to, that's why I stopped going to orgies with Shaq. Like, look, this is insane.

• 1:03:35Matt Farah?

  It is so small.

• 1:03:37Speaker 02

  It takes up half a parking spot, like side to side. You could park, four of them maybe? Do you think you could park four, like end to end, side to side?

• 1:03:46Matt Farah?

  I think you could do two in the back and one across the front. Yeah, one handbrake.

• 1:03:51Speaker 01

  You could Tetris that shit and there's only like two blocks for Tetris. It's just like.

• 1:03:55Matt Farah?

  They're so, I have to take my shoes off to drive them. I do.

• 1:03:59Speaker 01

  Oh, I bet dude.

• 1:04:00Matt Farah?

  Yeah. I love them too. I had a great time. I drove like a lightly modded one. It was a good time. It was fun. I like the AutoZam, I like the Beet, I like all of them, but I don't fit in them shits.

• 1:04:11Speaker 01

  No, they are tiny little cars.

• 1:04:14Matt Farah?

  They are not.

• 1:04:15Speaker 02

  You're gonna put a cage in and you're gonna like take up 20% of the interior volume. Like you're just gonna, like, you need a proper cage, obviously, but it's gonna take up so much space.

• 1:04:24Matt Farah?

  I was gonna say, like, if you take the roof off and you, you could make the cage kind of oversized and it would look dorky, but you'd fit in it.

• 1:04:30Speaker 02

  You see that at Lemons or probably spec Miata too, like people, they're running a convertible car and they're a tall driver. So the cage comes like out of the car and over the windshield.

• 1:04:39Matt Farah?

  We did that in the, um, in the Miata that we raced in AER.

• 1:04:43Speaker 02

  Oh, really?

• 1:04:43Matt Farah?

  It had a tall person cage, so the cage went like up from the roof by like maybe two inches, but we fucking bashed out the, uh, the, the unibody around the seat to make, to drop the seat like two inches and that made it just a crazy difference.

• 1:05:01Speaker 01

  Those motors.

• 1:05:01Matt Farah?

  That car was so comfy.

• 1:05:02Speaker 01

  You can beat, and those motors, those were, ah, I forget, they're, this is 1.6 liter. I forget their technical name. You can beat the shit out of those motors. I love to spec Miata series. That is the funnest racing you will ever do.

• 1:05:15Matt Farah?

  What region are you in?

• 1:05:17Speaker 01

  Northwest. So it was a really fast drivers, cause we all drove in the rain. So you had like the front runners and Will and all those guys would win. Like when we go down to Seca, we'd all take first through sixth place.

• 1:05:30Matt Farah?

  Cause just cause it was dry?

• 1:05:31Speaker 01

  Yep. Like, oh, what, normal weather, what's this?

• 1:05:36Speaker 02

  So what tracks are the circuit up there?

• 1:05:39Speaker 01

  You have, uh, PIR and Portland International Raceway and then Pacific Raceway.

• 1:05:44Matt Farah?

  Okay.

• 1:05:45Speaker 01

  So those are the two main tracks up there. And then you have Thunder Hill and then Laguna when you go a little bit further down south.

• 1:05:51Matt Farah?

  Not a bad lineup. I just drove Portland International Raceway last year. It was fun. It's a fun time.

• 1:05:55Speaker 01

  Chican, no chicane.

• 1:05:56Matt Farah?

  We did chicane.

• 1:05:57Speaker 01

  That, I love chicane, dude, that chicane?

• 1:05:58Matt Farah?

  I like chicane. I prefer chicane.

• 1:06:01Speaker 01

  It gives it that little, that, the difference in the tarmac, cause it gives that old concrete. And I seen they just got rid of the outside, uh, was it turn one, two, three, four, you know, looping four.

• 1:06:12Matt Farah?

  The looping left over the crest?

• 1:06:14Speaker 01

  Right, the looping right when you're going on the outside. That used to have tarmac, uh, edges. So you'd have tarmac, or sorry, concrete.

• 1:06:23Matt Farah?

  And then tarmac?

• 1:06:23Speaker 01

  No, you have concrete patches and you just get that left, your outside tire in the concrete, fucking swoop through there.

• 1:06:28Matt Farah?

  Extra grip.

• 1:06:29Speaker 01

  Yep. They got rid of it recently and I didn't know.

• 1:06:32Matt Farah?

  It wasn't there when I was there, it was just grass. But I had an M5 touring, so I would just drift the chicane and that was fine. That's all I really wanted to do. Yeah, yeah. It was just, we were just playing.

• 1:06:42Speaker 01

  It's a fun ass track.

• 1:06:43Matt Farah?

  It is, yeah.

• 1:06:44Speaker 02

  When did you start racing spec Miata? Like, how old were you? Was that your first racing experience at that level or did you like do schools and go up to that or like what was your journey?

• 1:06:53Speaker 01

  We did, I did karting when I was younger and then in the military, right before the military, did, uh, tag. It used to be called tag. I don't know what they called, they got rid of that series, um, your,

• 1:07:06Speaker 01

  what do they call tag karts now? Kind of what they're called now. It's like an automatic. It was in between shifter and KT100s.

• 1:07:11Matt Farah?

  I think it's like the fat karts actually. They're like Rotax's, right?

• 1:07:16Speaker 01

  Rotax, so okay, Rotax's. It used to be called tags in 2009, 10.

• 1:07:20Matt Farah?

  Well, they were probably made by Tag Technologies at that, at that time.

• 1:07:23Speaker 01

  Oh, probably Touch and Go's, yeah.

• 1:07:25Speaker 02

  Whoa, 125 CC?

• 1:07:27Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:07:27Speaker 02

  That's fast.

• 1:07:29Speaker 01

  They were fun, dude.

• 1:07:30Matt Farah?

  Two strokes. 125 two strokes. They fucking rip.

• 1:07:32Speaker 02

  That's very fast, yeah, okay.

• 1:07:34Speaker 01

  They rip. So we did that and then got into spec Miata. I went to, uh, Bondurott's Racing School.

• 1:07:41Matt Farah?

  Yeah, shout out to Bob.

• 1:07:42Speaker 01

  Yeah, dude, Bob.

• 1:07:43Matt Farah?

  Our old boy.

• 1:07:44Speaker 01

  Dude, he is a great dude. I gotta meet him back in the day.

• 1:07:48Matt Farah?

  You wanna go for a hot lap in my CR1?

• 1:07:52Speaker 01

  Lap, yeah, dude, dude's back, those yellow Corvettes.

• 1:07:55Speaker 02

  What year was this that you went?

• 1:07:56Speaker 01

  2010, I wanna say.

• 1:08:00Matt Farah?

  Hosford might have been there. Was Corey Hosford one of your instructors?

• 1:08:04Speaker 01

  I, I, I might have a photo.

• 1:08:06Speaker 02

  He had an orange drift carb and he was, he's a very funny, silly person. So, but anyway, there's a lot of instructors there. But we were filming out there with him and Bob around that time and Bob, you know, he was, he was slipping in some ways, but then he would take you around in his ER1 and scare the shit out of you, inches from the, you know, the apex, perfect, just great driving.

• 1:08:26Matt Farah?

  He talked like he was on death's door and then he would take you for a fuck, he would destroy an entire set of tires in the saddle at 90 or whatever the fuck he was. It was crazy to see.

• 1:08:36Speaker 01

  And that track, that little liftoff spot?

• 1:08:38Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:08:39Speaker 01

  Yeah, you guys, cause you're like, woo.

• 1:08:42Matt Farah?

  I jumped a Bentley there two years ago.

• 1:08:43Speaker 01

  No shit.

• 1:08:44Matt Farah?

  I really liked taking Bentleys on racetracks. It's really fun.

• 1:08:47Speaker 01

  Oh god, those are boats, how?

• 1:08:49Matt Farah?

  So good. You, you just, you wouldn't believe it until you saw it. Bentleys are to be, if you, if you wanna drive like a complete dickbag sideways, just a sloppy fucking mess, jumping it Bentley, you want a Bentley. That's what you want. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're perfect for really silly people driving on racetracks.

• 1:09:08Speaker 01

  God.

• 1:09:08Matt Farah?

  Yeah. Not good for lap times, but just for fucking stupid shit, they're very good. Yeah, yeah.

• 1:09:14Speaker 01

  Ah, see, I gotta, I'm gonna try that. 2010 though, 2011, did spec Miata series, loved that for those two years, side by side. Just y'all bumping, you're bump drafting, you're beating the shit out of each other. Everyone's having a blast. Then got in the business world and was like, oh, I don't, I gotta get rid of all my stuff to afford anything and just was broke for a long time and focused on business.

• 1:09:37Matt Farah?

  Not funding your own race team is usually the first thing that goes.

• 1:09:40Speaker 01

  Yeah, you have to go real quick. You're like, fuck, so, uh, yeah.

• 1:09:45Matt Farah?

  This is the video game business?

• 1:09:47Speaker 01

  This was, uh, I was doing the personal training and then when I got Freddie, after I met him, that next year, he's like, hey, video game high school, it's the big YouTube series. He's like, do you wanna come work on season three? And I was like, fuck yes. He was like, move down and we'll get you going. So I moved to LA in Glendale and then did that for three years, working with Corridor, them, uh, learning my own stuff. And then I started Double Tap, which was, uh, it was a, you, I do drunken debrief and this military stories, drunk military stories, kinda like drunk history, but retelling of stories from veterans and then.

• 1:10:23Matt Farah?

  More murders.

• 1:10:24Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:10:26Speaker 02

  Wait, are the, are the veterans drunk retelling their own stories or are they telling other stories? Okay.

• 1:10:32Speaker 01

  They're shit wrecked and they're telling fun stories of like dumb shit that happened in the military and then.

• 1:10:38Matt Farah?

  It's not like fully the PTSD hour?

• 1:10:40Speaker 01

  Yeah, no, I was like, you know what's not?

• 1:10:43Matt Farah?

  This could go another way.

• 1:10:44Speaker 01

  Dude, I had an actual, people, they wanted to buy the series and they're like, we'll pay you X amount, great che- check. And they're like, but we want real stories. I'm like, yeah, let me get veterans drunk and tell terrible stories of that. So that's gonna end really well. People love watching that.

• 1:11:02Matt Farah?

  Yeah, but that pitch from that company is the unfortunately predictable result of that, right? You know, like, oh, this thing you're doing, it's like lighthearted and fun, is great. I'm gonna buy it. Let's make it real and gritty.

• 1:11:16Speaker 02

  It seems like, it seems like someone from History Channel who is not in touch with like PTSD and the substance abuse that can come with it, but they walked in like on their phone like, oh, we should buy that, but can we make the stories real and add more alcohol? Oh, thanks. And then just walk back out.

• 1:11:29Speaker 01

  We love it.

• 1:11:32Speaker 01

  Like, no.

• 1:11:36Speaker 01

  Twenty-two a day.

• 1:11:43Speaker 02

  What are you talking about? I don't understand.

• 1:11:46Speaker 01

  Dude, so that like, that series did all that and then just kept learning the process and it took off to where then I, full circle, was like, I can afford cars now. I'm back into it. Thank God, it took so long.

• 1:11:59Matt Farah?

  Do you want to get back to racing, you think?

• 1:12:01Speaker 01

  Dude, I started doing, I was telling him, I was at Coda a few weeks ago, Jeremy, he was like, hey, I got a track day, you want to come? And then it was dirt cheap to have a GT RS4.

• 1:12:14Matt Farah?

  Oh, nice.

• 1:12:15Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:12:16Speaker 02

  GT4RS.

• 1:12:17Matt Farah?

  GT4RS Cayman?

• 1:12:18Speaker 01

  What was the?

• 1:12:19Matt Farah?

  Club Sport?

• 1:12:20Speaker 01

  What, Weister?

• 1:12:21Speaker 02

  Weisach.

• 1:12:22Speaker 01

  Weisach, yeah. So Weisach, and it was like fifteen hundred bucks for the day.

• 1:12:26Matt Farah?

  Good time, huh? Car rips.

• 1:12:30Speaker 01

  And I was like, yes, let's do this thing.

• 1:12:31Matt Farah?

  That car's the right volume if you have a helmet on.

• 1:12:34Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:12:34Matt Farah?

  You drive it without a helmet at that pace, you, your head will be ringing for fucking days. Yeah.

• 1:12:39Speaker 01

  So.

• 1:12:39Matt Farah?

  It's good fun, though.

• 1:12:40Speaker 01

  Do that, karting again, and then with Vin, actually Vin, I'm sure you've seen his content.

• 1:12:47Matt Farah?

  Vin Anatro?

• 1:12:48Speaker 02

  No, different.

• 1:12:50Speaker 01

  I guarantee you when you see his face, you'll be like, I know that guy.

• 1:12:52Speaker 02

  What's his Instagram channel called?

• 1:12:53Speaker 01

  Actually Vin, or Actual Vin.

• 1:12:55Speaker 02

  He does really funny, like clever F1 skits that are making fun of actual nerdy rules that got passed and like cheats and shit. It's really good.

• 1:13:03Matt Farah?

  I have seen that.

• 1:13:04Speaker 02

  He does really good stuff.

• 1:13:07Speaker 01

  He's great. And we had him on the podcast and.

• 1:13:13Matt Farah?

  Vin, yes.

• 1:13:15Speaker 01

  Dude, I love him, dude.

• 1:13:16Matt Farah?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, I know that guy. Yeah, yeah, okay, cool.

• 1:13:18Speaker 01

  We're starting a car channel together and we're super stoked for that because I was like, dude, I want to get, like, my dream content, like podcasts, love, super blessed to be able to do it. And the viewers and everything we get to do from it, but having a car channel, I was like, doing a Top Gear style show, that's my fucking dream.

• 1:13:37Matt Farah?

  That's get ready to spend all the money and not make it back. Uh, that's.

• 1:13:44Speaker 02

  Or you might, might car track it and strike more gold and, you know, like, good on you.

• 1:13:48Speaker 01

  That's what we're hoping for. Thankfully, we have like Pepperbox is crushing right now and just that streaming service is doing super well and everyone's super faithful on it. So like anything we put on there is exclusives, they hop on and they watch it. We built a subscription service, uh, two years ago, so it's like eight bucks a month. It's, uh, kind of like Netflix meets, uh, dang it, what?

• 1:14:15Matt Farah?

  Patreon?

• 1:14:16Speaker 01

  Yeah. So it's those two combined and we just found a really good, um, middle ground with it and that thing took off. And then treating it like a business model and making sure they're getting exclusives and it's an ad-free experience for your eight dollars. And we're at ninety-five thousand subscribers.

• 1:14:36Matt Farah?

  Cool.

• 1:14:37Speaker 01

  So we built like a monster.

• 1:14:38Matt Farah?

  It's like just your own video streaming service.

• 1:14:40Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:14:41Matt Farah?

  That's cool.

• 1:14:42Speaker 01

  And because gun content is highly censored on what you can do. You can't even shoot a full auto demonetized, like anything with a gun, pretty much demonetized instantly.

• 1:14:50Matt Farah?

  So do you, do you not find though

• 1:14:55Matt Farah?

  that, like, what we, what I, what I, I've had really a lot of problems with promoting off-platform content using Instagram and other social media. So if you have this entirely new streaming service, what is, how do you, is it just within the podcast and, and buried in the content itself that you're promoting it? Or how are you getting people over there and telling them about it?

• 1:15:20Speaker 01

  So it's using, uh, since we have those sixteen large YouTubers on it, so that is a big thing. It's like, if we start this, how do we do it? Let's find the biggest gun tubers in the space that might be hit with restrictions or ad senses demonetized. They'll want a place that they can, they can actually post what they want. They can show full auto guns going off. Uh, okay, let's, let's build that now. Let's use them as a way to market this. It's like, hey, don't change a thing. Keep your YouTube channel. You're not stopping YouTube, but in that first two minutes, be like, oh, hey, if you want to see an unrestricted version of me shooting this gun, head over to YouTube or head over to Pepperbox and watch me shoot full auto or see the stuff you can't see here.

• 1:16:04Matt Farah?

  Got it.

• 1:16:05Speaker 01

  And then.

• 1:16:05Matt Farah?

  Got it. That works.

• 1:16:07Speaker 01

  Now it's free advertising and free marketing.

• 1:16:10Matt Farah?

  Zach and I were part of a company that did essentially this in 2012 and we got our fucking asses handed to us.

• 1:16:16Speaker 02

  We were too early.

• 1:16:17Matt Farah?

  We were too early on it. And we did this, it was this exact thing. You've just described the business model.

• 1:16:21Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:16:21Matt Farah?

  Oh dude, it works. You just literally described it. It works now. Fifteen years ago, we got fucking run off the internet.

• 1:16:26Speaker 02

  The quick version is, you know, like, we were on a channel called Drive and it was part of the whole YouTube, like hundred million dollar, you know, sponsor all these creators to like make a channel, to make people go to YouTube for shit that was more than cat videos. So they gave all these channels money and after two years we'd spent the money and we made like Top Gear basically on the internet and we, you know, we had a show and Chris Harris had a show and like all of these car creators. And then at the end we ran out of money and we, YouTube wasn't yet at a place where you could get sponsorships from companies because it wasn't quite big enough. It was happening or like beginning. So we went, all right, we're going to charge the audience three dollars a month for longer form content of these car videos.

• 1:17:04Speaker 02

  And the people lost their fucking minds. Like, they were so, the comments were irate. They hated us. How dare you? Da, da, da, da, da. And we're going, guys, this costs money to make these shows. Like, we, we all want to get paid, like me, you know, everybody who's worked on the show needs to get paid. And the audience just wasn't there for it. And then like three years later, everyone start, like Patreon happened and people start.

• 1:17:26Matt Farah?

  Netflix went streaming. Motor Trend went, uh, did exclusively paid streaming service and, you know, Hulu and all this shit.

• 1:17:35Speaker 02

  And now everyone's got like different Patreons and, you know, I subscribe to like Dropout TV, which is kind of like what you guys have. Like, it's just improv comedy, selling this stuff, but it's siloed over here. Doesn't have to worry about the algorithm and people pay the money, but like, you know, it was rough.

• 1:17:49Speaker 01

  It's a dude.

• 1:17:50Speaker 02

  It was rough twelve years ago.

• 1:17:51Speaker 01

  That jump, we were talking about the different audiences and how they react to stuff. We launched, uh, the same time that Ghost Hunting channel, I forget their name. They launched literally a month before, but they said to their people, and I wrote that as like, never talk to your audience that way. They're like, it was four bucks a month. I'm like, it's only four dollars. Anyone can afford that. But if you want to see any of our content, you have to go there now. We'll, we'll post very infrequently on YouTube, but everything's going there. I wrote notes. I was like, what not to do on our announcing? And we did the opposite. And then we said, hey, we don't want to change anything. All the content will still come out on YouTube. This is just for an ad-free experience and if you want to support us, but don't worry, nothing's changing. We want to give you that.

• 1:18:35Speaker 01

  And our audience was super awesome with that.

• 1:18:38Speaker 02

  That's what we did when we launched our podcast Patreon and we didn't have any negativity because we didn't change the existing product, but it was, a lot of people were clamoring for ad-free or they wanted the episodes early. They'd be like, when's the Eli episode coming out? Like, two weeks from now. Like, I want it now. So, okay, you can do that over here.

• 1:18:54Speaker 01

  We do Patreon too, which is just an additional twenty minutes. It's stuff that would get us canceled usually. We're like, man, you want to do? We say all the words over there.

• 1:19:03Speaker 02

  It's just Cody talking for twenty minutes.

• 1:19:05Speaker 01

  Yeah. It's like, oh, to go pay your five bucks or whatever, however much we charge for it. And then that, it works great. But yeah.

• 1:19:13Matt Farah?

  Well, you came in here saying you were addicted to starting businesses. I get it now. That's true.

• 1:19:19Speaker 01

  Energy drinks, shoes, whatever it is. I'm like, let's fucking go. I got two more about to launch in the next two months.

• 1:19:26Matt Farah?

  What happens like a few years down the road? You start a business and then your, your seven businesses later, are you able to maintain focus of the business you started before or you lose interest?

• 1:19:36Speaker 01

  With the right team. I'm very big on hiring and firing on like the right people. And if it's training them up to replace you and then it's supervision, not like I'm over your shoulder, but it's just looking at the analytics and be like, hey, we need to mold it like this and then see what works. If it doesn't work, oh shit, this is going down. Let's try this new approach for that. And then most expensive part on a business is marketing. We don't have to worry about that because we have fucking four D two million subscribers between the sixteen creators that are my friends. I'm like, fucking, there's my marketing. If I fuck that up, I'm stupid. So just have them market it or talk about it and it usually does pretty good.

• 1:20:18Matt Farah?

  Yeah. That's super cool, man. I really, I really respect that. The hustle is extremely real.

• 1:20:25Speaker 01

  I mean, you, you, you both, you already understand, isn't it?

• 1:20:28Matt Farah?

  We've been there, we've done it. That's why we know it. It's, you know, it's on the, the top line item. Sounds very glamorous and then the work is actually everything else.

• 1:20:37Speaker 01

  It's a lot of people do not realize how much stress goes into it because it's what you guys do. It's, oh, well, you have your own business. I would, that's way easier than a nine to five. No, no.

• 1:20:48Matt Farah?

  No, it's different. It's different. You know, it's.

• 1:20:50Speaker 01

  You're seven days a week.

• 1:20:51Matt Farah?

  Yeah. I mean, it's, it's, it's freedom, but it's also shackles. You know, it's, it's equal measures of both.

• 1:20:57Speaker 01

  Yeah. And it's that trade-off that you got to be happy with where you're like, okay, it's worth it because it's also the stress of, oh, if this fails, it's not only you, it's all the families and everyone you're responsible for. And you're like, oh God. So again, shout out to you guys for keeping this going for that all, look how long you've been around. Look at that old ass silver plate button.

• 1:21:19Matt Farah?

  Although you guys, I mean, how many, your podcast, you, you, you're of nine, how many episodes, actually full episodes you had? Two eighty, two eighty-six?

• 1:21:27Speaker 01

  Yes, maybe. Are we? Two eighty-six. Good. Yeah, two eighty-six. Yeah.

• 1:21:31Matt Farah?

  About fucking flock cameras. Speaking of which, did you see, before we get out of here, because I do have to get out of here because I'm packing and I'm leaving at five o'clock in the morning tomorrow for a ten day trip. But there is, when was the last time you thought about MapQuest? Like a long time ago, right?

• 1:21:47Speaker 01

  Two thousand, oh, two thousand, I can, two thousand and five. Yeah.

• 1:21:49Speaker 02

  Probably.

• 1:21:50Matt Farah?

  So MapQuest is still an app. It's still an app you can download. It's still a website you can use. It's still a GP, it's still a GPS of sorts. And they have introduced an overlay that includes flock cameras and what direction they're looking.

• 1:22:06Speaker 01

  Oh, no shit.

• 1:22:07Matt Farah?

  And they're the only, they're, they're the only, uh, GPS so far or mapping software that includes flock cameras as an overlay feature.

• 1:22:16Speaker 01

  How much are they paying you for this ad spot?

• 1:22:18Matt Farah?

  They're not. I just thought.

• 1:22:19Speaker 01

  I'm joking.

• 1:22:21Speaker 01

  They need to be.

• 1:22:22Speaker 02

  That's how you like it. I think.

• 1:22:24Matt Farah?

  There's one right up the road from here that I'm not saying somebody should cut down, but I wouldn't be mad if somebody cut it down.

• 1:22:29Speaker 02

  Look, a drunk driver crashes into it.

• 1:22:31Speaker 01

  It's great copper. Copper, aluminum.

• 1:22:33Matt Farah?

  There's so much copper in there. If you live in an RV, you need copper. Let me tell you where to find some.

• 1:22:39Speaker 02

  Eli, if you run into it, the cops want to arrest you. So.

• 1:22:41Matt Farah?

  Right? Yes.

• 1:22:43Speaker 01

  I'm so against that stuff.

• 1:22:44Matt Farah?

  Purple hood privilege.

• 1:22:45Speaker 01

  I hate Flock. I. That is one thing that should not exist. I'm glad there's so much pushback against it.

• 1:22:52Matt Farah?

  Fuck these people, dude. That's crazy.

• 1:22:54Speaker 01

  The dumbest thing is like, no, this should be able to monitor you. Well, if you're not doing anything bad, what's the issue? Nope, stop there. It's terrible.

• 1:23:03Matt Farah?

  Guess what? Everybody's a suspect now.

• 1:23:04Speaker 01

  And we've seen it.

• 1:23:05Matt Farah?

  You're a suspect for every crime. You are now a suspect for all crimes that happen in your neighborhood. Congratulations. I hope you feel safe.

• 1:23:12Speaker 02

  This slope is far too slippery there.

• 1:23:15Speaker 01

  How? I mean, we've already seen the pushback on it. People getting arrested. It's like, ma'am, you're in trouble. And it's like, oh, what did I do? We got your vehicle there.

• 1:23:22Speaker 02

  There was that woman, she got arrested. She was in jail for like four months because they got the wrong plate on her Jeep. And then there was a journalist we know, a pretty famous story. He got pulled over by like four cops in a Range Rover, press car, because the flock camera didn't, couldn't read the little M on the manufacturer license plate.

• 1:23:39Matt Farah?

  It was a fleet plate.

• 1:23:40Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:23:40Matt Farah?

  And one of the other fleet plates went missing and Flock flagged the entire fucking fleet. A hundred cars as being stolen.

• 1:23:48Speaker 02

  And it kept happening like for the rest of the month.

• 1:23:50Matt Farah?

  And our money got pulled out of the fucking car. It is like a different state, dude. It was crazy.

• 1:23:57Speaker 01

  See, that's a fucking issue.

• 1:23:59Matt Farah?

  Yeah, he rode it on the drive. Yeah.

• 1:24:01Speaker 01

  You're going to the UK. It's like you're just turning into the UK where it's just hyper.

• 1:24:08Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's pretty.

• 1:24:08Speaker 01

  Cameras everywhere.

• 1:24:10Speaker 02

  There's a lot there.

• 1:24:10Speaker 01

  Yeah. Yeah, dude, that UK's insane.

• 1:24:13Speaker 02

  Kind of weird, but they have the average speed camera, but then this is like a different level. This is closer to, you know, our friend lived in Dubai. I don't know if you spent time there, but they have cameras everywhere. So there's no like walking policeman or policeman driving around patrolling because they'll just, you know, they'll just rewind the video and go, the thief came from there and then they went over there and then they just find out where you came from.

• 1:24:31Matt Farah?

  Our buddy lived in Dubai and worked on that system. And like, like.

• 1:24:36Speaker 01

  That's anti-American to me. Like, that's the one thing I'm very big on freedom. You have, that's the bad thing with freedom, but that's the good thing with freedom. You're gonna have.

• 1:24:45Matt Farah?

  I don't want to be surveilled while just living my life.

• 1:24:48Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:24:48Matt Farah?

  I mean, I know I carry a phone and so I've traded away some of, I've already traded away some of my freedom for this convenience, but like passive surveillance of when I'm not, you know, opting into shit like that.

• 1:25:01Speaker 02

  And when it's, when the images are handed to a computer and like it will decide where the police should go. And there's obviously problems with that computer. Like it's, and even if it was perfect, I think it's gross. Like let the humans do the job, like do the detective work, whatever. But the fact that it's problematic and is leading to people being jailed for months? What?

• 1:25:19Matt Farah?

  Yeah. Not great. Not great.

• 1:25:22Speaker 01

  States are suing them though.

• 1:25:23Matt Farah?

  Yeah, I know. And cities or municipalities are pushing back and, you know, whatever. So.

• 1:25:27Speaker 01

  Meth heads love taking that coffee.

• 1:25:29Speaker 02

  Hey, get those GPUs, man.

• 1:25:32Speaker 01

  That's money, dog.

• 1:25:33Speaker 02

  Get out of people's suburbs and just go grab.

• 1:25:35Matt Farah?

  You can trade that for, yeah, stop bringing into houses. Stop stealing these things.

• 1:25:39Speaker 02

  Seal the GPU, mine's a bit, mine's Bitcoin, whatever.

• 1:25:42Matt Farah?

  That's what I'm saying.

• 1:25:43Speaker 02

  My SIM rig is gonna be amazing. You're just gonna be running like eight monitors all built on flock camera GPU.

• 1:25:49Matt Farah?

  Oh, man. Well, that's a positive note. Thanks for coming down, Eli.

• 1:25:53Speaker 01

  Dude, you guys have been an absolute pleasure.

• 1:25:55Speaker 02

  Yeah, man. Thank you guys for having me.

• 1:25:57Matt Farah?

  Every time you are back in LA, you should, you should stop by.

• 1:26:01Speaker 01

  And we'll have to have you guys on UnSub if you want to come down and shoot some guns.

• 1:26:04Matt Farah?

  Do we have to come to, we have to come to Texas?

• 1:26:06Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's in person, but we shoot guns. It's, and we fly and we pay for everything.

• 1:26:10Matt Farah?

  I like shooting guns.

• 1:26:11Speaker 02

  We do shoot guns.

• 1:26:11Matt Farah?

  I shoot guns sometimes. That's, that's fun.

• 1:26:13Speaker 01

  We have all, unfortunately, all the guns.

• 1:26:17Matt Farah?

  I have heard. I do like shooting guns.

• 1:26:18Speaker 02

  Texas plus FFL or whatever.

• 1:26:20Speaker 01

  Yeah, plus FFL plus, you guys can have suppressors now.

• 1:26:23Speaker 02

  Not here yet.

• 1:26:24Speaker 01

  Yes, you can. It's on, yeah, they didn't mark California, which is wild. You, you can go.

• 1:26:30Speaker 02

  Oh, wow.

• 1:26:30Speaker 01

  Yeah, that was one of the most wild. There's 12 states that can't have suppressors right out the gate. California's not on that list.

• 1:26:37Speaker 02

  I'm actually shocked about that.

• 1:26:38Speaker 01

  Same. Alaska and Montana are on that list.

• 1:26:42Speaker 02

  Alaska? They're like, you know, it doesn't matter if it's loud out here. There's nobody here.

• 1:26:45Matt Farah?

  Who are you gonna bother?

• 1:26:47Speaker 01

  Dude, this is a too wild. I was like.

• 1:26:49Matt Farah?

  In LA, they're like, you know what? Give the gangsters. You know, I'm tired of this. I'm trying to sleep. Just let them have.

• 1:26:54Speaker 02

  I'm down for the hearing protection, but it's funny that Alaska where there's like no laws and they're like, no, not, no.

• 1:27:00Speaker 01

  I did a, huh?

• 1:27:02Speaker 02

  Someone must have fucked up a form. That's gotta be that. Jerry ticked the wrong box. He forgot to mail something.

• 1:27:08Matt Farah?

  That was supposed to be Arkansas. Fucking hell.

• 1:27:11Speaker 02

  He went salmon fishing and he didn't come back and get the mail. That's what happened.

• 1:27:15Matt Farah?

  Thank you, everybody, for listening to us. We appreciate y'all very much. Of course, you know where to find this motherfucker. Dude, Eli Double Tap on Instagram.

• 1:27:25Speaker 02

  Flockcameras.com.

• 1:27:26Matt Farah?

  Flock.com. Eli underscore double tap, the YouTube channel, unsubscribe podcast, the fucking standalone video server, streaming service they've built. Yeah, let's fucking go. This is not amateur hour over here. And he's driving a not entirely air-conditioned GT40 with no windows.

• 1:27:48Speaker 02

  A carbureted car with air conditioning. Like that's almost an oxymoron. It's not quite, but it's.

• 1:27:53Matt Farah?

  Drops 500 RPM at idle.

• 1:27:55Speaker 02

  Unless it's vintage air.

• 1:27:56Matt Farah?

  You turn it on, it goes boom.

• 1:28:00Matt Farah?

  It goes back. It goes back.

• 1:28:05Matt Farah?

  All right, Habibis, I'll see you next time. Bye.