2025 Monterey Car Week Stories

The complete run down of our Monterey Car Week 2025! Matt's new Manx worked perfectly (well, almost); the cars we saw; the events we saw; how to participate; the car NOT to bring to Monterey; and more! Recorded August 18, 2025 Click on the DILLON banner, buy a pair of sunglasses, receive a FREE Smoking Tire t-shirt! https://thesmokingtire.com/partners-1 New merch! Grab a shirt or hoodie and support us! https://thesmokingtireshop.com/ Use Off The Record! and ALWAYS fight your tickets! For a 10% discount on your first case go to https://www.offtherecord.com/TST Want your question answered? Want to watch the live stream, get ad-free podcasts, or exclusive podcasts? Join our Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thesmokingtirepodcast Instagram: https://www. Instagram.com/thesmokingtire https://www. Instagram.com/therealzackklapman

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• 0:00Matt Farah?

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• 0:43Matt Farah?

  10% off all legal services from Off the Record. Don't plead guilty, get off the record. Alright folks, on this episode of the podcast, Zach and I are back in studio for the first time in like two weeks because he was out. We've just done Car Week, so we talk about our favorites and least favorites from the quail. I took delivery of my new Myers Manks and I go over the first 500 miles of driving. And man, a whole lot more that we have to catch up on. It's a cruise show, let's get right to it. It's the Smoking Tire Podcast. I came in, I just, I didn't want to really answer your question earlier before we sat down, and how was my drive back?

• 1:28Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:29Matt Farah?

  It was eight hours is how long my drive was. It was, it was, and even in a Bentley, that's a, that's a long day. But, we're here. And if you can, you know, you know that Car Week was good because listen to my voice. It's fucked up.

• 1:43Speaker 01

  I was shot when I got home.

• 1:45Matt Farah?

  And I, and up until like, like half an hour ago, I didn't speak to a soul today. So, I want to talk about a bunch of things from Car Week because it was super fun. And I want to put, and I have 565 miles on the Manks.

• 2:04Speaker 01

  Ooh.

• 2:05Matt Farah?

  Which is pretty good for less than two weeks. But I want to, I want to talk about the Manks last because that, that, that little car clearly did, you know, dominate my attention for most of Car Week in one way or another. But we did do things. We did see things. We saw cars, we saw people. Things happened around us and to us and we made, we made shit happen.

• 2:29Matt Farah?

  Uh, got a house for the first time, never done the house thing. Think I liked it.

• 2:34Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:34Matt Farah?

  Think I liked the house. The house vibe is, is a good vibe. We really picked the fucking right house, too. Had, it had so much room for a trailer. And, uh, my trail, honestly, my trailer parking was pretty fucking buttery.

• 2:47Speaker 01

  It was very impressive.

• 2:48Matt Farah?

  My trailer parking is, uh, is pretty good. Uh, still got it, 20 years later. 20 years after I last towed a car for money, I still got it. Um, and, uh, yeah, Ali and then his lady and, uh, and me and Hannah and Zach and his wife Sarah. Uh, it was great. We went to, uh, some parties. Uh, I went to the Motor Lux, went to, uh, uh, the Quail. Um, the Quail was, is the big one now. Um, and actually, man, like, I, I, you know, I, I went, I went to the Quail and I also went to the Concorde and, you know, obviously the Concorde is what the week is really about. Um, but in terms of what gets the, the, the real attention for the week, I got, it has to be the Quail.

• 3:30Matt Farah?

  Cause it's manufacturers, you know, are doing real reveals there. Almost like a, like a proper, like auto show.

• 3:39Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 3:39Matt Farah?

  There's a full-on, like, press junket. Did you see the schedule? So they, they gave us these little, the little booklet that was attached to your media pass when you got it? You probably didn't look at it.

• 3:50Speaker 01

  I, I've seen it before where it's like 11:15, this company's doing a reveal, then 11:25, then 11:42.

• 3:56Matt Farah?

  You know, just like, uh, just like how you and I do when you see the show, you do a lap of it. Cause it's, it's, it's not in a circle. It's like a, it's almost like a big L. But the things are around the perimeter of the big L. The main booths with like cars arranged, uh, with like individually owned cars that have entered like the Concorde's through in the middle. And, uh, you do a lap, but like the, the, the press release thing was set up so that journalists could just go duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, every 15 minutes the whole way around. Now, I didn't do that. In fact, I went to one reveal, I have to say. I, I, I, I happened to walk in, right when I walked into the Quail, which was early. I like to go early.

• 4:40Matt Farah?

  Uh, especially because I was showing the car, so I, uh, I knew I was gonna get bogged down talking about that. And I wanted to try to get one lap in, like, before Hannah got there, because she was coming in like a couple hours later than me. And before it got too crazy. So I got there right, like, the minute it opened, I was there. Um, did, and I, as I walked in, I saw the Cadillac press launch. Did you see the Cadillac, uh, I believe it's called the Elevated Velocity Concept? And before you Google image search it, Zach.

• 5:17Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 5:18Matt Farah?

  When I approached their big stand, it says Cadillac Elevated Velocity, and I go, well, that's kind of a nice tagline. Elevated Velocity, it's high-end speed, I'm like, okay. I mean, it's not like, it's not great, but like, I understand what it means. It's not like, super stupid. Uh, and I figure, like, you know, surrounded by like, hypercars and shit, they're probably gonna have some like, you know, something cool, right, something fast. Elevated Velocity, as it turns out, is not a tagline, that's the name of the car that they've got, is Elevated Velocity Concept. So, based on just what I've told you.

• 5:58Speaker 01

  Crossover.

• 5:59Matt Farah?

  Picture me, picture me that car.

• 6:00Speaker 01

  Yeah, uh.

• 6:01Matt Farah?

  Did you see it already?

• 6:02Speaker 01

  I did not, but I'm hearing elevated in the name, so it's probably higher off the ground than a car. But they're trying to do a play on words where it's elevated above the ground, but also, you know, figuratively, it's elevated above its peers. Uh, velocity, it's just gonna be something that's supposed to be kind of fast and concept, but I think it's gonna be like a fast crossover.

• 6:25Matt Farah?

  So, your, your, your train of thought is on the absolute right track. But even on that track, it don't look like you think it's gonna look, okay? Now get the image. You now, seriously, pull up the image now, because it looks like...

• 6:46Matt Farah?

  It looks like if you took, you know that new $300,000 thing they're doing? Imagine you took that and made it into a coupe. And then just put like giant fucking enormous wheels and tires and giant fucking enormous gullwing doors on it. And that, and it's apparently some kind of ultra luxury off-road.

• 7:11Speaker 01

  Like Martian Rover.

• 7:12Matt Farah?

  Electri- yes, it is a Martian Rover.

• 7:15Speaker 01

  But it's a luxurious one.

• 7:16Matt Farah?

  A luxurious, fast Martian Rover.

• 7:18Speaker 01

  It's sort of shooting brake-ish. But yes, very, I mean, it looks like it's a foot off the ground. There's a lot of, there's a lot of daylight underneath this car.

• 7:28Matt Farah?

  Bro, when I, they had it there under a cover and they were doing a reveal. But the way the cover draped, I thought it was gonna be like a coupe or something that was on a platform. And it looks like a coupe that's on a platform, but just that has wheels that dangle down to the floor.

• 7:50Speaker 01

  Oh, come on.

• 7:51Matt Farah?

  It was, I wish there was a photo of it. You gotta get the photo of it on the stand. Like not these, not these press photos. Just do Google Images and see if you can find it from, from the launch. Oh, these fucking press photos, come on. There, uh, that's the, like, that looks like security cam footage. That's not quite it. But either way, oh there, just even the profile.

• 8:12Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 8:12Matt Farah?

  It's so tall. It's so huge, tall. So when they pulled this off, I like, I kind of like audibly gasped and walked away and I was like, I'm done with the reveals now.

• 8:25Speaker 01

  So, so the back of it, the roof line looks like an F-type. But only until you get to where the spoiler, the rear spoiler be. Then you've got about two feet of hexagons reaching from that roof line all the way down to the lower splitter where the wheels, uh, you know, the air from the wheels comes out. I mean, that's really tall.

• 8:44Matt Farah?

  Well, from that rear axle back, it looks like that Celestiq car. The new one, which I saw, I saw like 10 of them rolling around. I think they're all manufactured cars driving people, but.

• 8:55Speaker 01

  This is, uh...

• 8:56Matt Farah?

  It's, it's a lot.

• 8:57Speaker 01

  But the, the line on the top is not bad looking. It looks like a fairly traditional coupe.

• 9:02Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 9:02Speaker 01

  But it just, it's lifted. It's, this is like Micro Machines.

• 9:05Matt Farah?

  Very strange.

• 9:07Speaker 01

  Short front overhang. What are the wheels? When you saw them, were they huge?

• 9:10Matt Farah?

  The wheels look like 24s. They're huge. They're so big.

• 9:16Speaker 01

  Can we talk about?

• 9:17Matt Farah?

  Like, the roof of this car is like six feet tall.

• 9:22Speaker 01

  Uh, wow.

• 9:24Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 9:24Speaker 01

  Yeah, I believe it. There's so much air under this.

• 9:26Matt Farah?

  Gotta find a photo of a human next to it. That's what we really need here. We need, we need scale. In the desert, there is no scale. All of these, all of these press photos are completely devoid of scale. There's on the stand, that's what, the three days ago, car buzzed. Yeah, look at that. So like, there's a human on the right. Oh, come on. Please, just there, look, there's, there's a person. So it's really tall.

• 9:54Speaker 01

  Um, the, the dorsal looks like it's almost knee height.

• 9:59Matt Farah?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 9:59Speaker 01

  That's very high. The front is, look, as a concept, it's, it's very, you know, future forward, whatever. But these air intakes on the front are so unattractive. This is something else.

• 10:12Matt Farah?

  If that front, you can see how the, the nose could be what future sedans look like-ish on the nose, right?

• 10:21Speaker 01

  This part.

• 10:22Matt Farah?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 10:22Speaker 01

  You know, right where this hood crease is, sure, but this.

• 10:25Matt Farah?

  It's a lot.

• 10:26Speaker 01

  Is a lot.

• 10:26Matt Farah?

  Really a lot.

• 10:27Speaker 01

  You're eating parking cones with this.

• 10:29Matt Farah?

  So, we don't need to spend too much more time on it, but that's the other thing. So anyway, how about good things? Uh, good things from Quail. The Gordon Murray F1 thing, obviously.

• 10:38Speaker 01

  Holy moly, that's one.

• 10:40Matt Farah?

  Incredibly sick. Uh, you know, it, it really does look like the F1.

• 10:46Speaker 01

  Hundred percent.

• 10:47Matt Farah?

  Uh, in a good way. And it's, uh, it's pretty much T50 underneath, although they punched it out, uh, from 4.0 to 4.3, so it'd go faster. Um, it's just incredibly sick.

• 11:00Matt Farah?

  It kinda looks like... Yeah, I... God, it's so good.

• 11:05Speaker 01

  It's so pretty.

• 11:05Matt Farah?

  It's gonna have headlights. It has no headlights right now. Those are... See the placeholders?

• 11:10Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 11:10Matt Farah?

  They like, didn't have time to do headlights, but they showed it anyway.

• 11:14Speaker 01

  I gotta say though, this... The problem with this car, and it's the only problem, is it makes... It reinforces the fact that the T-50 is not, in my opinion, and a lot of other opinions, stunning to look at. It's a little awkward.

• 11:27Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 11:27Speaker 01

  The proportions I think...

• 11:28Matt Farah?

  I don't mind how it looks.

• 11:29Speaker 01

  I don't mind, but...

• 11:30Matt Farah?

  I think it's nice, but I think the T-50 has things about it that make it a lot more usable, whereas unless this has like a crazy nose lift system, like, this is a less usable car.

• 11:42Speaker 01

  Oh, sure.

• 11:42Matt Farah?

  They probably wouldn't... You know, this is a car where someone paid Gordon an extraordinary amount of money to tailor something to their taste, versus Gordon saying, "What are my values applied to the car?" You know what I mean?

• 11:59Speaker 01

  Yeah, I agree with that.

• 12:00Matt Farah?

  In fact, the fact that this is for like, essentially, one guy, like, is the biggest problem with it. Like, it's, you know, for GMA, I'm sure it's... It makes total sense to do something like this. It's a huge amount of money from one person. It's probably like, keeps your company running for like, you know, months, if not most of a year. And certainly, you know, Gordon was sick, and so probably, this was able... He was able to ensure that his family is taken care of if something does happen to him, but...

• 12:35Speaker 01

  He's sick?

• 12:37Matt Farah?

  Yeah, he was fighting cancer.

• 12:38Speaker 01

  I didn't know that.

• 12:38Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 12:39Speaker 01

  That's why he wasn't at the event.

• 12:40Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 12:40Speaker 01

  Okay, I didn't know that.

• 12:41Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 12:42Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 12:44Speaker 01

  That's so sad.

• 12:45Matt Farah?

  Yeah, it's, you know, like, as cancer can be, I think it's up, down, up, down. But either way, that's why he was... That, I think, is why he was not on the show. But, um, and that's not like, breaking news, like, other places have reported that. But, um, either way, I just like, I hope...

• 13:03Matt Farah?

  GMA is an incredibly niche outfit to begin with and so but but Bugatti is doing these ten million dollar one of you know having whole cars developed for one person uh more so than the the the normal tailor-made type of stuff like like this where where it's a Chiron or a Torbion or whatever underneath and it's a but it's a completely different car I just like that's just like not good for cars.

• 13:32Speaker 01

  Yeah, I agree.

• 13:33Matt Farah?

  Like that's just like that's bad that's like that's literal Gilded Era shit and we know how that ends like we see the Gilded Era cars on Pebble Beach like on the lawn on Saturday like we like we know what happened after nineteen twenty-nine.

• 13:48Speaker 01

  Well, I think it it does seem like there are more of the you know back in the day it was like oh only the Sultan of Brunei.

• 13:56Matt Farah?

  Right.

• 13:56Speaker 01

  Could order this kind of stuff and now Bugatti will make whatever ten to twenty special edition Bollides or something because there's more people that have that much money blah blah blah blah blah and I don't know I mean this is such like I'm torn like this is such an amazing work of art and it's fantastic to see what they did if they kind of uh you know redesigned the McLaren F1 basically.

• 14:19Matt Farah?

  Well, and and on the one hand they wouldn't have done it if someone didn't pony up the cash on the other hand the new standard shouldn't be that manufacturers realize that they can make more money selling fewer cars to fewer people for enormous amounts of money versus selling more cars that more people could afford. I don't I'm not talking about BRZs but I mean like uh Porsche for instance to realize that moving ultra ultra up market is really the way to go or Lamborghini or or any of these people.

• 15:02Speaker 01

  Well, it's hard. I think there are, there's the, there's the pull and the push, right? There's the pull of...

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• 16:25Speaker 01

  Car companies realizing they can do this and they can sell them to 10 or 20 people. So that's the pull. The push is increased income disparity.

• 16:35Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 16:36Speaker 01

  Stagnant wages. And I'm not trying to become a social, like just look at graphs.

• 16:39Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 16:39Speaker 01

  And customers can't afford to buy enough cars to keep the companies afloat.

• 16:44Matt Farah?

  It's Gilded Era shit. We've been, we were there 100 years ago.

• 16:49Speaker 01

  Sure.

• 16:49Matt Farah?

  1929, it's 2025. Wake the fuck up.

• 16:53Speaker 01

  Yeah, 100 years. Our memory is fantastic. This is like a little different because it's, it's a super exclusive company already, doing another super exclusive thing.

• 17:03Matt Farah?

  Sure.

• 17:04Speaker 01

  But, you know, Ferrari does a little bit, and if Porsche starts doing it...

• 17:07Matt Farah?

  They're not the only company doing this.

• 17:09Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 17:09Matt Farah?

  I mean, you know, Ferrari has been doing in-house coach building for about 15 years now. Not to mention what they were doing in the 60s, but, but now. And Bugatti is doing it, and I think...

• 17:23Matt Farah?

  You know, we were at the Quail, like it's a, it's a crazy thing that that type of stuff gets very, very normalized there.

• 17:33Matt Farah?

  But, I don't know, it just because we're, we're, we're constantly being asked, like, what are the affordable sports cars, what are the affordable sports cars? And affordable means different things, but I think it generally means cars like under a hundred grand.

• 17:46Speaker 01

  For sure.

• 17:47Matt Farah?

  Like, that's like, that's already very, very expensive, but like, baseline, whatever it is, like, seventy-five grand's a lot of money, but not if you're buying a 911 Turbo, you know what I mean? Like, so, but like, we just, we don't, we don't want carmakers to realize that they, that because their shareholders want profit, and if, if all of a sudden Audi, or something, some, a more mainstream bring goes, hey, you know, look at this, these, these guys are making super luxury cars for, and they're diverting resources away from cars for everybody to cars for just a couple of people, and yeah, they make more profit, but they're like, the rest of their product, like, goes down. Like, that's bad, right? I think that's bad, seems bad.

• 18:31Speaker 01

  I think it's bad, I agree. I think, I would hope that a company like Porsche would be very careful and hesitant to do that because they do so, they put so much work into, like, their image and marketing their cars to everybody, basically, and, and, you know, the cheap ones are still good, the expensive ones are good, and they have their exclusive manufacturer side, but I feel like they are trying, constantly trying to reach out and remind so many different markets and enthusiast clubs and stuff that they exist, that it would be a big mistake for them to, now.

• 19:05Matt Farah?

  I think so too, but the allure of money is very strong in a publicly traded company.

• 19:10Speaker 01

  Yeah, but I, I think, I guess I just hope that companies can continue to do both, you know, if someone wants to pay you ten million dollars to turn a GT4RS into a GT5RS, whatever the fuck that would be, okay, but don't stop selling the regular Spider, the regular 718, and all those other cars, like, keep that going, don't, you know?

• 19:30Matt Farah?

  Yeah, I mean, yeah, so to, to get a Torby on allocation, you had to already own a Bugatti.

• 19:36Speaker 01

  Sure.

• 19:38Matt Farah?

  Eventually, someone has, someone outside this loop has to buy a Bugatti. Otherwise, you're just, you're a car company that exists to sell the cars to the same 200 people.

• 19:48Speaker 01

  Well, I think, but someone always sells their Bugatti and someone buys it. Ed Bolian, technically, he owns the Bugatti. He can get on the Tervan list.

• 19:54Matt Farah?

  I don't know. I don't know.

• 19:55Speaker 01

  Probably the bottom of it.

• 19:55Matt Farah?

  Yeah, and you probably can't if you didn't get it from a dealer. Or you don't, you know, if you bought it, if you bought it at an auction or something and you have to have a major service history at a dealer. I don't think, I don't think fucking used like ratty ass weird smelling Bugattis are what they're talking about.

• 20:10Speaker 01

  No, probably not, but I, I just think there's enough cars that trade hands. That it's probably hard to get in that door and if you're fortunate enough to have the money to try to get in the door, good for you. But I think there's a way in. It's just, it's just not easy.

• 20:23Matt Farah?

  I don't know. It's all, it all feel, it's all, it all starts to feel a little grotesque.

• 20:28Speaker 01

  I agree with that. Yeah.

• 20:35Matt Farah?

  Dude, there was like so many Koenigsegg's and Bugattis and shit. And it's all that like those kids cared about. Like the people like on the side, like they all were just like, the hypercar spot, it was constant.

• 20:46Speaker 01

  But when, when I was a kid, I was the same way, because you see a lot of, you see other cars a lot. And if, but if I saw Ferrari, because back then they used to be a lot more rare. I'd get more excited than if I saw an M3 or an old thing or whatever.

• 21:00Matt Farah?

  Yeah, and I'm not trying to like gatekeep cars. I just, it.

• 21:06Matt Farah?

  I don't know, man. The fucking, based on the vibe I got from the whole week, like. The, the culture surrounding those type of cars right now is like medium toxic. Uh, and sort of like vapid.

• 21:24Matt Farah?

  Um. It doesn't, I, I don't know.

• 21:26Speaker 01

  How so?

• 21:27Matt Farah?

  I don't know. Maybe it just, I don't know. Maybe it just seems like. Cause it, the, cause Monterey Car Week is just all fucking traffic. It's just so much traffic. You're driving these things that go so fast at a speed that is so fucking slow. And every chance these fucking guys get are just like, neutral.

• 21:47Matt Farah?

  Like. Like, come on, man. Like, outdoor dining. Like, what are we doing? You know what I'm saying? Like, and it's just, it's like, bro, the number of seven-figure cars I saw that had fucking Instagram handles on their shit, dude. Like, this is some trashy-ass garbage, dude. Come on.

• 22:04Speaker 01

  Well, yeah. Either those folks are trying to make, uh, have a tax write-off with like, oh, this is my business. It's my media business, which is lame. Or they're trying to get attention after they already got rich, which I-

• 22:16Matt Farah?

  Which is even lamer.

• 22:17Speaker 01

  It is lamer, and I'm not surprised by it because we've talked about this before. Like, they poll students in junior high and like, what do you want to be? Influencer? I mean, and even before, people, I think in the 90s or even before that, a lot of- We all looked up to movie stars and stuff because you saw them, like, oh, wow. Everyone celebrates them. They're famous. Wouldn't that be cool? But it seems so difficult. You go, alright, I'm gonna go get a job as a dentist. I'm just gonna go stay in my lane and I'll watch the movies. But now, it feels accessible, like you could almost get there if you put your Instagram handle on your supercar. And then, you could not only be rich from your law practice or whatever, your private equity firm that, you know, guts a company and then makes the profit, but you also can be cool at a car show. And people, all, everybody wants to be cool.

• 23:00Speaker 01

  Everyone in high school, if you weren't cool, you were envious of the people who were cool because it seemed like they had the secret, like they had the key to life. Now, you can essentially purchase that.

• 23:09Matt Farah?

  Well, you definitely can, but it's, I don't know. It just, it seems like, uh, it, it, it's, I'm very, like, turned off to it, obviously. Having said that, I'm not saying, like, Car Week was bad. Like, Car Week was really fun. I saw, like, a lot of really cool things. There was, as usual, like, crazy rally cars being driven around.

• 23:34Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 23:34Matt Farah?

  Old-school, like, AMG, like, hammers and stuff. Really, lots of Skylines. You know, Skylines have all of a sudden become, like, rather tasteful, actually. You know, and, uh, classic Ferraris and stuff. A lot of Testerosus. Saw a lot of Testerosus this year. Probably, I saw several Countaches. A few different ones, including one that suffered some real damage the day of the tour.

• 24:02Speaker 01

  Oh, the black one?

• 24:03Matt Farah?

  The black one.

• 24:04Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 24:04Matt Farah?

  I think snapped an axle or something, something rather ugly.

• 24:08Speaker 01

  I saw two white Countaches parked next to each other. One was Doug's and Rose's.

• 24:11Matt Farah?

  Yeah. I don't know who the other one was. I wonder if it was, um- Our buddy, James Chen from Axis Wheels, he's got a white white.

• 24:20Speaker 01

  I don't know. It was funny that, it was funny that on the quail, it's like, well, for the most part, there's a lot of, you know, cars are fairly individual. It's like, we chose this because it represents this mark or whatever. And then there were two white Countaches next to each other. Although, to be fair, there were also like nine white GT350 Shelby's.

• 24:38Matt Farah?

  Well, there was a Shelby class, there was a Countach, I don't know if there was a Countach class, but every year, there is like a vintage supercar class. So in that area where those Countaches were, is usually always like Countaches and Diablo's and Vectors and 90's super. There was that white Vector, I also saw a black Vector. Yeah, Vector, if you're rolling, Vectors are a different story.

• 25:02Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 25:02Matt Farah?

  You're rolling a Vector around Car Week, like, respect. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 25:07Speaker 01

  You brought your own flat tow. You brought your own tow truck.

• 25:10Matt Farah?

  That's the thing, like, if you're rolling a fucking Countach, like, you're like, you're personally rolling the dice a little bit, like, you fucking, you're not just buying in. You're like, you have to like, be willing to like, be a car person a little bit and like, deal with a heavy clutch and deal with a fucking foggy window. You know what I mean? Like, you gotta, like, I've done Car Week a bunch of ways. I've done it in like, press cars, I've done it in like, the million mile Lexus. I did it without a car one year, I flew up, I've done it in my old cars. Like, doing it in an old, if you're gonna do it in a cool car,

• 25:52Matt Farah?

  like, being a fucking car person and doing it in a car that like, requires like, a little something of you, like, a little bit, doesn't need to be unreliable, but like, fucking, you gotta like, commit a little bit. Like, just rolling up in your seven-figure whatever and paying the valet 500 to park it up front. It's like, pretty lame, to me. Like, there's just better ways to fucking, to do it.

• 26:16Speaker 01

  Well, because I think, you know, buying a 720S and paying the valet all the money, you're doing it the easy way in a couple of ways. Like, you're buying a cool car, which is cool. And it's an amazing car. Like, I don't want to take somebody away from working hard and retaining that car.

• 26:29Matt Farah?

  Seven series car is excellent.

• 26:30Speaker 01

  But, actually, the funniest example, and maybe it was intentional because it was the Porsche party, but as we walked up, there were like, five or six GT3RSs waiting to valet their cars. And, look, phenomenal vehicle on the track. Driving slowly in traffic on somewhat bumpy roads, like, there's not a worse car out there.

• 26:49Matt Farah?

  I forget who fucking said it. Someone, someone's, I'm not going to credit someone properly. I think it might have been, I think it might have been Ryan, actually, who said that the 992 dot 2, or that the G, the new GT3 RS is effectively the new Aventador.

• 27:08Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 27:08Matt Farah?

  Yeah, it was Ryan, right? Yeah, yeah, which is incredibly astute observation.

• 27:13Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 27:13Matt Farah?

  It very much is. They all have fucking straight pipes.

• 27:17Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 27:17Matt Farah?

  None of which are needed.

• 27:19Speaker 01

  And they don't sound good, and they're too loud.

• 27:21Matt Farah?

  They all sound bad.

• 27:22Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 27:22Matt Farah?

  Yeah, and they drive them slowly around with full downforce deployed. Yeah, yeah. And having actually tried that for myself, it's, so maybe they are. Maybe they are giving something of themselves, because driving one of those is, it does suck when you're not going fast.

• 27:41Speaker 01

  Yeah, it does.

• 27:42Matt Farah?

  Yeah, that's better than some other ones. But no, I just, like, I really, I got such a satisfaction out of driving the Manks around, like, no windows and doors, you know, like, you're, you're outside. And, and, and it's, it's small and fucking loud and weird, and I think, in my opinion, I think you get, in terms of, you know, attention or whatever, it's nearly one to one with the hypercars for 2%, you know, or whatever one of the costs compared to one of those things.

• 28:20Matt Farah?

  So, I, I, like, really, you know, showing it at the quail, but also just driving it around, you know, when we got up to, we towed it up with the Bentley, which worked brilliantly, actually. Bentley, Bentley V8S could certainly, certainly tow a Featherlite trailer with a Myers Manks on it just fine. And, and unloaded it right after the Motor Luxe party, and then the Manks was just my car for the whole rest of Car Week.

• 28:53Matt Farah?

  And we had had, so I took delivery of it on Wednesday. And then we were lea- it was one week before we left. So I had a weekend with it. On the way home, I took delivery of it in Costa Mesa and drove it home, fifty miles up the 405. It was running hotter than it was supposed to. It wasn't terminally hot, but it was a number that did not make them happy. So they were, the, the, the Manx guys were a little red faced and embarrassed that that was my first drive. And they came up here and they spent the whole day like fiddling with it. And they discovered there was a bad O2 sensor that was causing it to run slightly lean, which is why it was getting hot. They fixed that, they checked the tune, they drove it around for a while.

• 29:38Matt Farah?

  They also put a bunch of different sensors on it. And they found that the coolant, the, the temp display gauge was reading twenty degrees higher than the actual coolant temperature. So that, that's good. I mean, I mean, it's not good, but like better than the alternative. Um, so anyway, but, but I used it, uh, let's see, they gave it to me with like a hundred and fifty miles on it. Uh, cause they obviously did some development driving too. And I, I've, I've got up to five hundred and sixty-five miles. And this is in a little car with no windows or roof or climate control or radio or anything really. Um, it was, it was fucking amazing.

• 30:22Matt Farah?

  It was dead to nuts, uh, reliable. Um, it did not run hot at all. Um, we, I do have a, a, a list of things, list of notes, things that need, it needs a little bit of adjusting. Um, the throttle response, for instance, is too, too sensitive, uh, at like maintenance throttle. So if you're just cruising along in like second gear, it's only a four speed. So you're in gears a little longer. If you're just cruising along in second gear and you hit a bump and your foot does this, it then causes that loop.

• 30:54Speaker 01

  You got the Jaguar sports, the sport throttle problem.

• 30:57Matt Farah?

  Yeah, the sport throttle problem. So they need to, they need to like dumb the throttle down a little bit. It's all Motec shit. Um, and it was great. We took it on the tour. Here's the photo of, of us, uh, watching the tour to Elegance in Big Sur. So we drove it down. The heated seats, awesome. They work great, two mode heated seats. Um, I only used, uh,

• 31:18Matt Farah?

  Eight, I filled it up when we, and I forget how many miles I put on it before getting to Monterey. I think it was like,

• 31:28Matt Farah?

  I wanna say I was in like high twos when we, when I got to Monterey. I filled it up, and now it's at like 560 and I only used like eight gallons of gas, which was pretty good.

• 31:40Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 31:41Matt Farah?

  Yeah. It's pretty, it's like pretty efficient actually.

• 31:43Speaker 01

  Yeah, the Bentley used a lot more than that. I filled it up once.

• 31:45Matt Farah?

  Yeah, oh you did?

• 31:47Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 31:47Matt Farah?

  Oh wow, yeah. Oh, I guess you did, yeah, yeah. The Bentley uses, uses more. Although I got thirteen and a half to fourteen and a half while towing, which is really not bad.

• 32:00Matt Farah?

  And then, you know, you guys left on Saturday. Hannah also left on Saturday. I drove it down to Spike's podcast, uh, down at Pebble. Uh, we did the show. Um, and I wanted to show Jerry. I'm showing him like pictures of it and whatever and he's like, "Oh, wow, that's, that's interesting, okay." And he basically insinuated, he's like, "Yeah, I'd like to have an engine like that." I, he goes, he said, he basically said, "Yeah, I'd suffer through that car to have an engine like that." And I was like, "Suffer?" I was like, "Jerry, it's a really nice car, it's a brand new build." I was like, he's like, "Well, you know, come on, it's what, it's what you buy and what I buy." I was like, "Are you calling me poor?" And he, effectively was. Now, he was being, he was having fun. I was like, I was like, "It's parked right there."

• 32:43Matt Farah?

  I was like, "You're not in that much of a rush, like, you, you need to..." So we took him out, and he was looking at it, "Okay, cool, neat, neat," and he likes the seats. I told him the story, the thing, the, how he said, "Oh, that's cool, cool." But now, now start it. And I showed him how to start it. And when he did the crank and the plunge and then, and then the, and then it fired, he did the face, the most full of wonder, boyish, you know, the, the this.

• 33:13Matt Farah?

  You know, and then I give it a few revs and now I show him how to turn it off and he, you know, pull out the big plunger knob and he's like, "That's, that's, fuck, that's something."

• 33:25Speaker 01

  Cool.

• 33:26Matt Farah?

  That's cool. So I have, I have Seinfeld approval, which is, which is always fun. And then the four of us, me, Johnny, Spike, and, or me, Spike, Paul and Jerry, Johnny had to go somewhere else, went down to the Gooding tent and so we just wandered around looking at, you know, some of the upcoming lots, watching a few auctions, watching a couple Ferrari 250s drop an absolute deuce. Nobody wants 250s apparently.

• 33:53Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 33:54Matt Farah?

  Um, yeah, old cars are going cheap and new cars are going real money. You know, 90s F50s, etc. Enormous money. And, you know, every other old fucking car, blue chip quote cars down pretty much. Um, but, uh, we go to look, Jerry and I are going, we go to look at this other car. And we're poking around it and it seems, you know, it's maybe not great, it's okay, whatever, blah, blah, blah. And then we're kind of sitting around and, and Paul's like, "Wouldn't it be, we should buy something." I'm like, "Nah, what?" He's like, "I got a paddle." And I'm like, "Uh..." And the guys were like, "Yeah, yeah, yeah, so let's, let's see what comes up."

• 34:38Matt Farah?

  And they're looking like, everything seems kind of expensive coming up, but then it's like 1950 Rolls Royce, 50 something Rolls Royce comes up and it's like black and gold. And like a $6 million Ferrari had just gone across the block and the guy's like, "Open the bidding at 25,000, 25,000." And we all kind of like look at each other. And I'm like, "That would be fun to like drive around in next year." And Paul's like, "Get it." And I was like, "What do you mean get it?" He's like, "I'll go half, you get it." And I'm like, "Uh, thank God it went for like $90,000 and it would have been too, too much to be a joke." But like, if this thing was like under 40 grand, I think we would have had to buy it as a joke. I don't know. But uh.

• 35:19Speaker 01

  It's so unfair.

• 35:20Matt Farah?

  But it was crazy dude.

• 35:20Speaker 01

  That Paul initiates the idea and then he's like, he's like, you buy it. I'll go have, you're like, what? This is your idea.

• 35:26Matt Farah?

  I'm good for it.

• 35:26Speaker 01

  You have way more money.

• 35:27Matt Farah?

  I'm good for it, yeah. Uh, but like, you know, they, they leave and I go to leave and Jerry emails me later and says that like, my car and the car that we looked at together were his two favorites and oh, by the way, he bought the one we looked at. I'm not gonna say what it is, cause I don't know if he, if that, he wants that to be public knowledge or whatever. But um, but like, he wasn't like, oh, this seems interesting, I might buy it. We just looked at it and was like, huh, okay, okay. He clearly went to the airport, got on his plane, pulled up the website, read something about it and was interested in something in the story and then just like threw a bid in from his plane.

• 36:08Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 36:08Matt Farah?

  Which is pretty.

• 36:09Speaker 01

  Very cool.

• 36:09Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 36:13Matt Farah?

  So they go, you know, we did a podcast.

• 36:15Speaker 01

  A Koenigsegg.

• 36:15Matt Farah?

  No, and everyone else is going, I went to the Zinger party, 21 singer, Zinger 21C party. They set five track records in five days, uh, and they were celebrating that. I checked out the cars, they're gonna let us have a drive in the 21C. Uh, the Zinger 21C is incredibly cool. There were seven of them there. People are like, people are like, is this a real car? And I personally saw, I believe, seven or eight of them in one place, customer cars. So I think they've delivered eight, um, and I, and they can apparently do about one every two weeks, which is what they're doing, yeah. So, um, it's really cool, really, really cool.

• 36:57Matt Farah?

  Not 50 state carb legal, 2.66 liter, twin turbo V8 bespoke, 750 horsepower and then 550 horsepower e-motors, like, yep, 3,500 pounds, 1,500 pounds of downforce, fucking yowza.

• 37:14Speaker 01

  It's rad, I mean, I. I was, I'm kind of one of the skeptics because I worked for a company, we filmed their B-roll in like 2018 or something. So if I'm getting sued right now by Kevin Zinger, I'm sorry. But I was so excited, and I still am, when I see their manufacturing and they had the chassis out on the quail on the lawn. And I brought Sarah over and I was like, you gotta see this stuff. Like, look at this control arm. Look at the shape of it.

• 37:38Matt Farah?

  3D printed stuff.

• 37:39Speaker 01

  All the 3D printed stuff. And then what you can't see there is that some of their pieces are hollow in different spots. Like, if you, imagine, imagine you're baking dough.

• 37:49Matt Farah?

  Like a geode.

• 37:52Speaker 01

  Or like, sure, yeah, like a geode. Like, imagine if you're baking dough and you start pulling it apart.

• 37:56Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 37:56Speaker 01

  And they get those little air pockets, but there's like, you know, tendrils stretching between them, or it's like, you know, venom. They have that because they know where to put material for strength and where you don't need it. And they did it with their brakes, they did it with their control. Like, there's so many things in the chassis that are really rad, the way they're made.

• 38:11Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 38:11Speaker 01

  But I remember seeing, you know, the cars that were headed up to Monterey seven-ish years ago. And then not really hearing anything about them since then. So that's why I was one of the people going, hey, what's going on with this car? You know, Road and Track tested one, I think, like, a year or two ago, but their drive speed was limited, so...

• 38:31Matt Farah?

  Jethro tested one for real.

• 38:33Speaker 01

  Oh, okay.

• 38:33Matt Farah?

  For Top Gear, like, a couple weeks ago. At the same day as they did one of these records.

• 38:38Speaker 01

  Sure.

• 38:38Matt Farah?

  At Thunderhill, I think. And they said, the car that I, that I can drive is 100% production-finished car, full power.

• 38:46Speaker 01

  Sick.

• 38:47Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 38:47Speaker 01

  I think it just, I'm hoping that, like so many other people, you know, when they decide to take on the endeavor of building a car.

• 38:54Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 38:54Speaker 01

  You realize how complicated it is, but it doesn't mean your idea is bad or that it's gonna be a problem.

• 38:59Matt Farah?

  These are just really interesting because of that additive manufacturing stuff. I mean, they don't, they don't look, it's not like anything else. It's not just, I mean, just, carbon tub is cool, but like, this is, the, if you see the inside of these, like you said, it's like, that's a, that's a different shit.

• 39:15Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 39:15Matt Farah?

  Really different.

• 39:16Speaker 01

  I mean, I should add, for people who don't know, they use, the company that owns Zinger is called Divergent. And they do additive 3D printing with metal at an industrial scale.

• 39:26Matt Farah?

  For military applications, like all kinds of stuff.

• 39:28Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 39:29Matt Farah?

  But I think I heard between Kevin, so Lucas Zinger, the son, who's like our age, runs the actual car, the car company. The father runs the 3D printing company. And they're mostly industrial and military applications. The car is sort of a halo product that shows off what they can do. Still, still important, uh, but you know, manufacturing in California.

• 39:51Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 39:52Matt Farah?

  And the car is not ultra-low volume of vehicle, so they crash tested it. They, they pass, uh, emissions in, uh, in California. They pass carb. They pass whatever the, the 2028 cafe standards were that now, as I said in a previous podcast, I have no fines, but they, they, uh, they pass those too. They, so they say, so when I got in it and started it and revved the engine, you could just feel like the engine revs real fast, like 911ST fast. But there are no vibrations through the chassis when you do that rev. You know what I mean? Like, like, like F1, but.

• 40:34Speaker 01

  Is that because the, the rotating mass is so small?

• 40:36Matt Farah?

  The rotating mass is so small and the chassis is so rigid and the engine is mounted in a way where it just does not vibrate. It's just such a smooth revving engine that it doesn't send any vibrations really at all into the chassis. When it's unloaded anyway, but like, you know, if you, if you think of a Corvette or some big and big. You know. It tilts and you can feel it. This, there's nothing. It's really interesting.

• 41:06Speaker 01

  It's very.

• 41:06Matt Farah?

  Like even the, the SSC that we drove a couple of weeks ago and like the Nelson Racing like that, for a quote LS-based, and it's not really LS-based, but it's LS-based in design, uh, family, you know, the flat plane, the change displacement. It's not exactly, but, but you, if you revved that, like you could feel it revving. This, like, you can't.

• 41:30Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 41:30Matt Farah?

  It's like, cool. Really cool.

• 41:32Speaker 01

  Tiny V8.

• 41:32Matt Farah?

  Tiny.

• 41:33Speaker 01

  Really?

• 41:33Matt Farah?

  2.66.

• 41:34Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 41:36Speaker 01

  I'm excited.

• 41:36Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 41:37Speaker 01

  The funny thing is if we drive it together, you know, the seating is F- fighter jet style.

• 41:42Matt Farah?

  Nuts to the butts, baby.

• 41:42Speaker 01

  Right, so we'll need comms to discuss. It's super cool.

• 41:47Matt Farah?

  Yeah, so the, you know, California company, shout out to them. But then, you know, I, so I stayed for the concours. And actually, if you look at my Instagram post from the concours, my favorite car ended up winning the best in show. This Hispano Suiza had a body made of tulip wood.

• 42:08Speaker 01

  What?

• 42:09Matt Farah?

  Look at the, look at the next.

• 42:10Speaker 01

  What does that even mean?

• 42:11Matt Farah?

  Literal, the wood of tulip plants. Tulip wood.

• 42:17Speaker 01

  But like, do tulips turn into trees?

• 42:19Matt Farah?

  I guess, somewhere. It's a torpedo back, it's a speedster front, open fender. And then, and the woodwork is almost like an incredibly fine guitar. Click to the next photo, the first four photos, it has an alligator or crocodile interior.

• 42:38Speaker 01

  Whoa.

• 42:39Matt Farah?

  And some ridiculous, beautiful chrome gauges. And there's like 1,800 aluminum rivets holding all the wood together. Click one more, but that's the tight shot of the wood.

• 42:52Speaker 01

  Wow, the wood looks like, looks like it's been hit with precise buckshot.

• 42:55Matt Farah?

  Yeah. I, I, this stopped me for about 10 minutes. And I don't want to say I called it, but I clearly, look, I said, this is my favorite car of the show. That, that, and that ended up winning best in show. And then the one after that, this was a Lancia concept car. It was really, really funky. It was almost like an American car from a, a, a, a motorama, Futurama car from the 50s. But it's a Lancia with wheel spats over all four wheels. And if you click to the next photo, Zach, on the other side, they just pop up like the luggage doors on a Greyhound bus. So you can get to the wheels.

• 43:38Matt Farah?

  And then the next photo of this one, the dash, the steering wheel, all the control knobs, the shifter knob, and all the gauge bezels are lucite.

• 43:49Speaker 01

  Whoa.

• 43:49Matt Farah?

  Amazing.

• 43:50Speaker 01

  Very motorama.

• 43:51Matt Farah?

  Very motorama.

• 43:52Speaker 01

  For people listening, yeah, it's almost like, it's almost like the car is sinking into the ground and the wheels have disappeared.

• 43:59Matt Farah?

  So funky, right?

• 44:00Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 44:01Matt Farah?

  So some of this stuff, the Virgil Exner stuff, here's a guy with a, the guy with the blue coat there is showing his Ferrari and has his parrot on his shoulder.

• 44:10Speaker 01

  Oh, wow, it kind of blends in.

• 44:12Matt Farah?

  It does.

• 44:13Speaker 01

  Sure.

• 44:14Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 44:16Matt Farah?

  And there was a cool Land Rover display of some really historically significant Land Rovers, the Darian Gap, the, what I really liked about the Land Rover display, and you can see by the yellow flags behind it, is it was the most downwind section of the entire concourse. Make of that what you will.

• 44:38Matt Farah?

  You know, sometimes you just want to be real polite and go downwind.

• 44:44Matt Farah?

  Maybe it's farts, maybe it's something else.

• 44:46Speaker 01

  Do you think the trucks smelled bad?

• 44:47Matt Farah?

  Huh?

• 44:47Speaker 01

  You think the trucks smelled bad?

• 44:49Matt Farah?

  No, but like hypothetically, if a fucking total degenerate wanted to smoke a fucking joint at the concourse, I'm just saying hypothetically, you would find the most downwind section of the concourse, perhaps one with a cliff behind you.

• 45:06Speaker 01

  Gotcha.

• 45:07Matt Farah?

  Uh, and, and, and I'm not saying that I ended up there for that reason, but I'm saying it would be a good reason to end up there. And once you got there, discovering an actual Camel Trophy Defender is pretty rad.

• 45:22Speaker 01

  That's pretty funny.

• 45:22Matt Farah?

  Yeah. And then, yeah, the BMW Andy Warhol M1 Pro car in person is the sickest.

• 45:29Speaker 01

  Yeah, that was cool.

• 45:30Matt Farah?

  That's the fucking jam.

• 45:33Matt Farah?

  This Ferrari Daytona Spyder in Jewish racing gold had 87 miles on it and was in the unrestored preservation class.

• 45:41Speaker 01

  It's just such a waste of a car.

• 45:43Matt Farah?

  It really is.

• 45:44Speaker 01

  Plus painting it Jewish racing gold.

• 45:46Matt Farah?

  It's kind, other than go back, I like the gold. You know what I don't like? Is that black belt line stripe. That's a big fucking yuck to me.

• 45:54Speaker 01

  That's not rubber, is that paint?

• 45:56Matt Farah?

  No, that's a painted recessed thing. It's no bueno.

• 45:59Speaker 01

  That is not a good accent.

• 46:00Matt Farah?

  And it goes all the way around the back, too.

• 46:02Speaker 01

  No.

• 46:02Matt Farah?

  Yeah, that just needs to be painted immediately.

• 46:05Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 46:05Matt Farah?

  Just body color, regular paint, body color.

• 46:08Speaker 01

  I mean, an accent spot might be cool, but just ask an artist what goes with gold besides black.

• 46:12Matt Farah?

  Yeah, it's not good.

• 46:14Speaker 01

  This is...

• 46:15Matt Farah?

  This was Virgil Exner's attempt to revive the Duesenberg brand on a Stutz Blackhawk in the 70s. And the car is weird as fuck, but if you look at the, click to the next one, the dashboard, this photo, you might really have to zoom in on your phone. That vertical center stack is insanity. And whatever the bezels are made of, is this weird gold tiger's eye, like pearly thing? If you zoom in on it, it looks real crazy. I don't know if you can...

• 46:46Speaker 01

  The interior does look very nice. It's much better looking and simpler looking than the exterior.

• 46:50Matt Farah?

  Yeah, there was a Virgil Exner tribute class, and this was one of them. Me and, I was walking around with, oh shit, who was, oh, with my buddy Pete, you know Pete Brotman?

• 47:03Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 47:04Matt Farah?

  Shout out to him, vintage car dealer. We scammed our way into the Lamborghini booth for a little espresso. And then we were walking around, and that Imperial, I looked at that and I was like, if this rolls up to your house, your dad is gonna die quietly. He's just gonna, one, he's just gonna be standing and then not be standing and be dead. That's, someone gets out of this car and stabs your father in the neck with a needle, and then just carries them away.

• 47:33Speaker 01

  Well, because someone sits in the back and just nods to have it done. Right. I saw Pete at Motor Lux and I think he was in the middle of like trying to sell a car. Cause I walked up and said hi and he gave me the head nod handshake. Kind of like, hi, how you doing? And you know, it's like when you're talking to a girl and you're 14 and it's like, hey, what's up dude? Get out of here. So I took, I took his nod and I turned around.

• 47:57Matt Farah?

  He was doing business, you know? But then we went to the Lamborghini house, like I said, and I met a fucking cool dude at Lamborghini factory named Nicolo. And I learned that they now have a sort of a process that's kind of like the Ferrari classic process where they authenticate your car. And you know, part of it, you get this beautiful book that really dock you. You have to bring your car to a dealer and they look at everything, all your serial numbers. They make sure your, your engine gearbox match and this and that. And it's a few thousand bucks and you get a letter of authenticity and a book and whatever. So I don't know, might do it when the restoration's actually done.

• 48:41Matt Farah?

  Seems like maybe having a thing worth doing.

• 48:44Speaker 01

  I think so.

• 48:44Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 48:45Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 48:45Matt Farah?

  This is a real one. See?

• 48:47Speaker 01

  Right.

• 48:48Matt Farah?

  See my certificate of authenticity? But yeah, Lambo house, pretty sweet. It pasta makers in there. Yeah, it was alright.

• 48:57Speaker 01

  But did you go there Sunday?

• 48:58Matt Farah?

  That was at the concourse.

• 48:59Speaker 01

  Oh, okay.

• 48:59Matt Farah?

  No, it was their, their house on the lawn at the concourse.

• 49:03Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 49:03Matt Farah?

  Also went to the Rolex breakfast, which was alright. Met Tom Christensen, the LeMans driver.

• 49:09Speaker 01

  Yes. Putting it mildly.

• 49:12Matt Farah?

  Yeah, nine time LeMans champion, sorry. So you know, and then I was, I went back to the house and I took a nap. Everyone's gone. I have the whole house to myself now. Jeff Klucker and Andrew from Acura, you know, invite me to the Acura dinner and I have nothing else to do, so I go. It's way out at Carmo Valley Ranch. And I, and I had connected the trailer to the Bentley. I'm not going to roll out there dragging a trailer, so I drive the Manks out there. And

• 49:44Matt Farah?

  Oh, this is now, you know, 6:30 PM, the night of the concours. All other exotic cars have gone. I am the last interesting car driving down. I saw no other interesting cars.

• 49:58Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 49:58Matt Farah?

  Like, hours after the concours ended.

• 50:01Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 50:01Matt Farah?

  Just, gone. It took me 20 minutes to get from our house to Carmel Valley Ranch, and there was no other.

• 50:07Speaker 01

  That was like an hour drive, earlier in the week, yeah.

• 50:09Matt Farah?

  So, dinner's good, whatever, come back. And, oh, by the way, you know, other, whatever it was, Saturday night, when I went from the zinger party to the fire pits at Spanish Bay, it was raining. And I was driving that. And so.

• 50:25Speaker 01

  Are the windshield wipers?

• 50:26Matt Farah?

  Well, it's funny you mention that. So, me and Zach were looking at each other at the table right now, and if I'm driving the car and looking out the windshield at you, and you're forward, you're where I need to look, the windshield wiper is really good right here. It's basically here.

• 50:41Speaker 01

  In front of your shoulder, not your face.

• 50:42Matt Farah?

  It's in front of my right shoulder.

• 50:44Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 50:44Matt Farah?

  So, I have two options. One is to turn the wiper on, and.

• 50:47Speaker 01

  Oh, boy.

• 50:48Matt Farah?

  And you can actually see in the photo, yeah, you can see in the photo. I could, I can literally do this. So, I, what did I do? Uh, I tried the reach-around wipe a few times. That got very frustrating. That got very frustrating. And then, and then eventually, I committed to the Ace Ventura. And I went head out, right hand on the wheel.

• 51:13Speaker 01

  How fast were you going?

• 51:14Matt Farah?

  Well, I was going down 17-mile drive at night in the wet. So, second gear, you know, 30. I was not mobbing.

• 51:21Speaker 01

  All right.

• 51:21Matt Farah?

  It was cold. My head was outside of the vehicle.

• 51:25Speaker 01

  Oh, man.

• 51:26Matt Farah?

  That was, that one was tough. So, on the way, I go to Carmel Valley Ranch for dinner with Jeff and Andrew Quillen and Acura and some other folks that were there, Lynn. Um, and, uh.

• 51:38Matt Farah?

  Coming back. Last drive before the car goes on the trailer. Hit PCH. Turn right to go back to Monterey our house going up the hill. About quarter mile up the hill. The car dies. My very last drive of the whole trip. The car's been fucking perfect the entire time. And it dies. And before it died, just before it died, not like seconds before, but maybe like a minute before it died. You know, I've got my, my flashers, high beams are up here. Normally they do the floor high beam, but I made it on the trigger. Right before. I went to flash the high beams, not to flash somebody, but to turn the high beams on.

• 52:23Matt Farah?

  And when I pulled the trigger. It went from low to high and then the lights turned off. And then I let go of the trigger and they went back to the low beams. And I tried it again a couple of times.

• 52:37Speaker 01

  Okay, so you have a voltage issue?

• 52:38Matt Farah?

  Well, so the car dies. Full power. No, there's no, uh, no power, no electricity at all. I, I, and I coasted. Till like, now we're going uphill, so I have almost no inertia. I coasted to like thirty feet below. There's a side road. I quickly hop out and like try to push. Now there's construction, so there's mad traffic going the other way. Traffic's flying up the hill, almost dead stop going down the hill.

• 53:10Speaker 01

  You're, you're still going uphill, you try to keep pushing the car?

• 53:13Matt Farah?

  I try to push the car up the hill.

• 53:14Speaker 01

  Ooh, bold move.

• 53:14Matt Farah?

  It's fifteen hundred pounds, but yeah. I can't do it. I can't do it, so I yanked the handbrake. A guy, I don't know if he recognizes me, I think he does. He goes, hey, let me help you and runs out of his car. And we push it with two people, it's real easy. We push it. Like the fifty feet to the side street. And I'm like, oh, thank you so much, thank you so much. And like traffic's starting to go, so he just like runs, runs back to his car and he's gone.

• 53:41Speaker 01

  It's Jerry Seinfeld.

• 53:42Matt Farah?

  Thank, yeah, right. Thank God there was cell service, cuz it's dark. Really dark out there. Wherever I am, it's, and there's, there's traffic, but other than that, it's dark. And I'm on this little side road. And I go, okay. I've already hooked up the trailer to the Bentley. Do I have cell service? Yes. Step one, get an Uber, pick me up, go to the house. So I get an Uber. It's like 10 minutes or whatever way. And I go, I don't have power and the ramps onto the trailer are kinda steep. And I go, I don't know how I'm gonna get this on, there's no winch on the trailer. So I called Jeff back and I go, Jeff? And he goes, it broke, didn't it?

• 54:25Matt Farah?

  He's like, it's you, it's not even enough time for you to get home yet. He's like, I knew, I knew, he's like, I knew something happened second the phone rang. And he goes, what do you need? And I go, well, I'm in, I'm gonna get an Uber, I'm gonna go get the trailer, but, and then I, can I come back to Carmel Valley Ranch and get you? And we can go load it up? And then I'll drive you back to Carmel. Now, for people unfamiliar with the geography of this, each leg of this is about 10 miles. Okay? So like, I'm, I, you know, and it's real dark, so. You know, I then execute this plan. I go to the house, I get the trailer, I drive all the way back out to Carmel Valley Ranch. I make, cause an empty aluminum trailer is like loud. And there's all these speed bumps in Carmel Valley Ranch.

• 55:10Matt Farah?

  I make so much noise coming in this fucking place. Jeff tells me he can hear me from like really far away. Just, you know, an empty trailer. Get Jeff. We go back. Fortunately, I didn't, I didn't look too much into the side street. I just made sure the Manx was safe. Uh, before I abandoned it, you know, in an Uber to go get the trailer. So there's actually a downhill and I'm like, oh. So I parked the trailer pointing down.

• 55:37Speaker 01

  So box it in then.

• 55:38Matt Farah?

  And then we were able to, and actually, a dude in an Urus stops. And he's a fan, he recognizes me. And so, all right, I hop in and steer. You know, cause I gotta get some inertia, but like you, it doesn't, it's not a solid piece. It's two ramps, so we gotta line it up right, but also get the inertia of the downhill. And we do it and we actually, it's pitch black, but Jeff and I get the thing strapped up pretty good. Uh, I run him back to his hotel. I run back to the house. I had intended to be in bed at like 9:30. It's now midnight. It's now midnight when I get back to the thing. And I now have to like, sort of prepare the, the Manx for transport.

• 56:22Matt Farah?

  So I, I'd called, I woke up Jonathan, the radio guy from Manx. And we think it was just a fuse. There's like a, there's like a main fuse. Uh, cause the only things that worked were, there's no power to anything except those high beams, funny enough.

• 56:39Speaker 01

  Strange.

• 56:40Matt Farah?

  And the starter motor. And the starter motor's hotwired directly to the battery for very obvious reasons. Has to start when everything else is off. Um, so that led him to believe that there was a fuse somewhere and he was like, he's like, this is gonna be a five minute fix. I just, you, you, you just can't do it in pitch black on the side of the road right now on a Sunday night. So. Fortunately Jeff was a fucking rock star, got out of bed. He, mid jerk. I mean, he was like about to fucking.

• 57:09Speaker 01

  Well, now he's edging. Thanks to you.

• 57:10Matt Farah?

  He was totally edging. I massage seated him, you know, in the Bentley. Yeah. Now he could get back to his hotel, finish. Uh, literally. And, uh. Yeah. So I spent like, you know, half an hour prepping the car for, for trailering at like, at like midnight. And, uh, yeah, I left at fucking seven o'clock this morning.

• 57:32Speaker 01

  How do you prep it? You just take the seat covers on, top off?

• 57:35Matt Farah?

  Covers on, take the top off, like bolt this, the, the bolt, the top bar together, like, just like, I mean, little shit, but it's like, by myself in the dark.

• 57:45Speaker 01

  Yeah, at midnight.

• 57:46Matt Farah?

  At midnight after the concours and like all this.

• 57:50Speaker 01

  It's a long day.

• 57:51Matt Farah?

  That was a very long day. That was a very, and then this morning it, it, because of that accident, then took eight hours to get home. So it's, but like, you know, I feel like it was, you know, you, when you're on the racetrack, it's just one more lap. And then you, you know, crash or at the ski mountain, it's one more run, you know, and that's when you have a huge accident or something. This was one more, you know, I didn't have to attach the trailer to the Bentley. I could attach the trailer to the Bentley in two and a half minutes. I'm really good at that. I, I wanted to hook the trailer up to the Bentley to prepare. I'll just drive the Max today. I could have just driven, been like, ah, week's over, drive the Bentley to dinner, whatever. But I wanted to commit whole week with the Manx, every drive.

• 58:34Matt Farah?

  And the very last one, the very last drive home, it was like, nope, karma's up.

• 58:41Speaker 01

  Well, you know, you're durability testing. So hopefully, hopefully this thing's just like something jiggle loose or whatever.

• 58:46Matt Farah?

  Yeah, it's some, it's something really stupid. It's been, I mean, the, so I'm, the, the notes for adjustment. Yeah, there's a, the driver's side mirror just needs to be tightened a little bit. Um, it uh, it feels like the clutch cable might need to be lubricated. It's not quite as smooth as it was the first couple of days. Um, the uh, uh.

• 59:09Matt Farah?

  Oh, the, the skid pan under the engine, there's a skid plate. My car does run a couple of degrees hotter than the other car. And it, it was only doing it for me. When they were testing the car, it wasn't doing it. And when the boys came up to fiddle with my car, it wasn't doing it. Then when I'm driving, it's doing it. We couldn't fucking figure it out. And eventually Jonathan calls me, he goes, I've got it. When we te- when we test your car, when we're fiddling with it, we take the skid pan off to check for leaks. We then put it back on and you're driving it. Oh, it only happens after I've been driving for like an hour, like forty-five minutes an hour. It literally over time, heat soaks the skid plate and traps heat.

• 59:54Matt Farah?

  And so they're gonna punch louvers in the skid plate and or make some type of a duct. You know, but that's like a, who does, I, you know, I'm, maybe someone would have seen that coming, but like, you know, there's one, okay. Um, but dude, we drove it, we drove it everywhere. It was awesome.

• 1:00:12Speaker 01

  It, I mean, it's so bright, like the sparkle is amazing, but it's fantastic. Like people looking at your Instagram, seeing that thing, seeing that thing go down high one, I was behind you for most of it in the Bentley. It's like, it's such a cute friendly thing. And to your point about driving that versus hypercars, Sarah, while we were driving was like, what would you bring to Pebble of everything? And I was like, I'd bring like an electric Volkswagen twenty-one window bus or something. Because I think, I think the move is people start out buying a hypercar thinking like, that's the cool thing. And then you realize you want something small and friendly.

• 1:00:46Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:46Speaker 01

  We had the same effect with the Morgan. No one's threatened by the Morgan. No one thinks you're a douche driving the Morgan.

• 1:00:52Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:52Speaker 01

  It's just like an approachable car that people think is fun.

• 1:00:55Matt Farah?

  Pretty interesting, fun, something that makes people smile.

• 1:01:00Speaker 01

  Not trying to be tactical, masculine, whatever.

• 1:01:03Matt Farah?

  Something that is like not so. So clearly ridiculously overqualified for a traffic jam.

• 1:01:10Speaker 01

  Yeah, we saw, I mean, there were many McLarens driving around, but we saw one. And it was from like some speed shop and they had like, they had their name on the sill.

• 1:01:18Matt Farah?

  Oh, the Lamont Finn.

• 1:01:20Speaker 01

  And they had the Lamont Finn up.

• 1:01:21Matt Farah?

  The dorsal fin.

• 1:01:22Speaker 01

  They had, you know, super, it was like they were under braking and they were going five miles per hour in Carmel. Like that kind of peacocking is just ridiculous.

• 1:01:30Matt Farah?

  No, the, the, the Manx is at regular car speeds. And I'm talking about anything under like 70. It's more fun than any exotic car. You, you, you, you fucking, you're, you're doing it. You're, you feel the rack and pinion steering communicates beautifully.

• 1:01:50Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:01:50Matt Farah?

  The ride is really good. It's really engaging and fun. It's, you know, it's capable to a point. But it, it really reminds you about, uh, you know, the purity of, uh, of driving. Uh, at, at speeds that are, dude, uh, you know, there's that, so the road, I took this road. From our rental house to like Pebble. There's like the back way. It's like Aguale Hino Road.

• 1:02:19Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 1:02:20Matt Farah?

  I took that road every time. So like, doing like 35 bombing down that road in this. Is like doing 90 up Angeles Crest or something, you know? You're just like ripping through the gears and you're like, you're making a bunch of noise. You're not really going all that fast, but like, you're sure feeling it, you know, you're feeling all of it. And so I really, I really got down with it, um, the whole week.

• 1:02:42Speaker 01

  Slow cars fast.

• 1:02:43Matt Farah?

  Yeah. It's not that fast, but it's, and actually at, at, you know, going down the, the section of. It's highway one between our house and Pebble Beach and a Carmel, like that sort of hilly windy two way road. Doing that at 60 fabulous, absolutely fabulous. Such a fucking nice thing. Little bit of a rolling roadblock when your friends all drive sports cars and you're going down to Big Sur. How did it sound being behind it? Like airplaney or not really?

• 1:03:09Speaker 01

  Uh, yeah, it's got like a blat, you know, kind of sound to it and it's strange. In a good way, like you, you've never heard, heard anything like it before.

• 1:03:18Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:03:18Speaker 01

  So that's cool. Oh, this is funny. That's, uh.

• 1:03:22Matt Farah?

  Yeah, too bad Johnny's take is actually wrong.

• 1:03:25Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:03:25Matt Farah?

  And I could fucking prove it. I have it in writing.

• 1:03:28Speaker 01

  You have the emails.

• 1:03:28Matt Farah?

  He fucking, he wrote to me that that was his favorite car he saw that day. I got fucking the receipts, Habibi.

• 1:03:35Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's well executed.

• 1:03:36Matt Farah?

  I think, I think actually our buddy Shant, to go back, go back to the, the, the, the, the shooting brake that Shant built. To, for me, that is probably, it's a dip, previous post. For me, that is probably the ult, ultimate Pebble car. Car week car for me. A coach-built AMG car with a beautiful, this is a shooting brake built by our friends at CMS Motorsports. Crazy interior.

• 1:04:02Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:04:02Matt Farah?

  Great visibility. So you could see everything. Uh, looks cool.

• 1:04:07Speaker 01

  This, the, the side rear window is as long, actually longer than the hood of this car.

• 1:04:12Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:04:13Speaker 01

  Try to think of any vehicle, I mean, like, the rear window on a Suburban, the rear side window, this looks longer than that. And that's probably the biggest piece of glass on sale. So the thing looks crazy and really cool.

• 1:04:24Matt Farah?

  I really, that, that to me is my perfect Pebble car. Get a, get a good house. Get, cause this car, you know, you wouldn't have to trailer this up. You could drive this up. You know? Uh, get a great house. Uh, get a car like this that looks cool and, and is, is, it ma, makes people think. It makes people smile.

• 1:04:45Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:04:45Matt Farah?

  People go, what, what is that? What am I looking at? There's Easter eggs in there. For instance, it kind of looks like this car has a blue tint. And in fact, it has, uh, uh, like window tint. And in fact, it has fully clear windows and a full blue interior that's like insane.

• 1:05:01Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:05:02Matt Farah?

  Um, so, that's my idea of like, of the, probably the perfect Pebble car. But we're gonna, I'm gonna do a lot more with the Manx though, like, and do you see Eli's Manx? It's sick. The green, the green one from Auto Works, that one?

• 1:05:15Speaker 01

  I don't think I saw it.

• 1:05:16Matt Farah?

  It was near mine, but it had a Porsche motor and Porsche like, taillights and Porsche gauges. It was pretty slick. I was into it.

• 1:05:24Speaker 01

  And he, that has a spicy engine, right?

• 1:05:26Matt Farah?

  A spicy Porsche engine.

• 1:05:28Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:05:28Matt Farah?

  Yeah. And then there's the Todd Hill one, which is just banana.

• 1:05:32Speaker 01

  The LFG?

• 1:05:33Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:05:34Speaker 01

  Well, that's not even.

• 1:05:35Matt Farah?

  That's not a Manx.

• 1:05:35Speaker 01

  That's not a Manx. That's, that's its own thing.

• 1:05:37Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:05:38Speaker 01

  It's insane.

• 1:05:38Matt Farah?

  Yeah. And LFG is a very good name. It stands for Loud, Fast, Gone, of course. Um, we can do, yeah, look, I mean, this is so that this what's crazy is this thing looks like. Uh. It looks like a plastic concept car.

• 1:05:56Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:05:56Matt Farah?

  Like many, most, most new cars, especially these boutique cars, when they're first shown, it's like a plasticky concept car, right? Or, you know, something the next step up from a scale clay model, really. This looks like it's that, except that's not, that's actually it. That's a finished, not, I mean, it's not finished, but it's a fully functional, running, driving, the screens on the dash work, it has car play. It, there's, uh, uh, Richard was showing me videos on his phone of him like drifting it the night before, uh, the party on Wednesday. Um, these are gonna have a, a choice of engines. You're gonna be able to do, uh, an air-cooled flat six, a, uh, water-cooled flat six. There's Richard Tuttle driving it. Look, those screens, look at the passenger co-driver screen.

• 1:06:40Speaker 01

  Co-driver screen has car play.

• 1:06:41Matt Farah?

  Gearbox, handbrakes.

• 1:06:43Speaker 01

  I mean, if you, if, if people go to his Instagram and turn the sound on, charlie.tuttle, like, this thing's hauling ass.

• 1:06:49Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:06:49Speaker 01

  So definitely not a concept car that has been carried onto something.

• 1:06:53Matt Farah?

  This is Carmel Valley Road. He's mobbing.

• 1:06:57Matt Farah?

  Um, and those doors come off, those glass doors come off entirely. So you can get an air-cooled engine, a water-cooled engine, or the 911K engine.

• 1:07:06Speaker 01

  If you buy this car, if anyone out listening buys this car, you have to drive it in the dirt and play with it. That's what it's for. That's what Richard does with his cars.

• 1:07:16Matt Farah?

  Well, they're doing.

• 1:07:17Speaker 01

  Don't just show pony this shit and drive it to Cars and Coffee and register it in Montana. Like, that, this almost, stuff like this, not this car, but like, the existence of safari things that cost a ton of money and don't get driven bothers me almost more than the special edition hypercar stuff. That, I think, I think this is more offensive to me.

• 1:07:36Matt Farah?

  Yeah. They're doing a spec series with these for racing.

• 1:07:40Speaker 01

  Great, and they're gonna run this in Baja and stuff.

• 1:07:41Matt Farah?

  It's a class in Baja, 20 cars.

• 1:07:44Speaker 01

  And Tuttle, shout out to him, like, he organizes rally events, they organize the snow rally stuff with his cars. I mean, he is a legit driver person. I just hope the customers do that, too.

• 1:07:53Matt Farah?

  Do you know what else he said, my friend? He said, if we go to England, we can drive this.

• 1:07:57Speaker 01

  We should go to England.

• 1:07:58Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:08:00Speaker 01

  You hear that Doug? I'm coming to London.

• 1:08:02Matt Farah?

  We gotta make some rounds in England. Let's go to a few from the people. Pebble was awesome. I had a lot more things on my list. We'll get to it. I don't want to talk too much about towing with the Bentley because I'm doing a story with it for Road and Track. But, long story short, towing with a Bentley went great. Everybody should just tow with Bentleys. That's the consumer advice of the day.

• 1:08:24Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:08:25Matt Farah?

  Totally relatable. Everyone should tow with Bentleys.

• 1:08:29Matt Farah?

  And last thing about Pebble, I gotta give a little shout out to my new friend, Edwin Castro. Do you know that name? He won the Powerball. He won 2 billion Powerball.

• 1:08:41Speaker 01

  I've heard of him.

• 1:08:42Matt Farah?

  And then he just started buying Porsches.

• 1:08:44Speaker 01

  Yeah. He's bought everything, right?

• 1:08:46Matt Farah?

  He bought a lot of stuff. I hung out with him at the Quail. I didn't know who he was. Sat there talking to him. He was a fan. Introduced by Tamarin, by John. And talking to him for a minute and then, "Oh, by the way, this is..." Oh, cool, man. He is fucking one of us. This guy is down. He's cool as fuck.

• 1:09:06Speaker 01

  Wait, is he different? Didn't you meet a guy on a rally that had won?

• 1:09:09Matt Farah?

  That's a different guy. That's a different guy. I don't even want to say his name, but that guy won 880 million.

• 1:09:15Speaker 01

  You said he was very nice also, okay.

• 1:09:16Matt Farah?

  At 23 years old. Edwin Castro's a little older. I think he's in his mid-30s. He still won an enormous amount of money, but he's got cool taste in stuff. He is a fan of the show and he lives in LA. He wants to hang out. And he's mellow. He was really, really fun.

• 1:09:35Speaker 01

  Mr. Castro, when you buy your LFG from Tuttle, make sure that you drive the shit out of it in the dirt. Because you are the target customer.

• 1:09:42Matt Farah?

  That dude was actually, he was pretty cool. I hope that I would act like that if I fucking got 2 billion in Powerball. Yeah. He's doing it all right.

• 1:09:52Speaker 01

  Nice.

• 1:09:55Matt Farah?

  So anyway Pebble, uh, Car Week was, was pretty intense. It was, there was some highlights, there was a, I don't want to say lowlights, but there was just the, it, there, the, the transition away from vintage cars and to hypercars and boutique new sports cars and things like that is happening pretty rapidly. The auction prices reflect it. The kind of stuff you see driving around reflects it. The cars have gotten much, much newer. Um, and it's not necessarily a bad thing. It just is, it just is what it is. Um, but, uh, I still like going. It's still fun. Getting to show a car is very, very cool. That's a new, a new twist on, on a, on a way to do it.

• 1:10:39Matt Farah?

  Um, getting a house is definitely the way to do it. That's the jam. Um, but let's do a few questions from the people. Uh, next, uh, our, our, our next show will have a lot more questions, but Pebble was a big, uh, big week of things, so obviously we wanted to, uh, cover it, but we'll do a few. Of course, if you want to ask us, uh, questions for the podcast, if you want to, uh, get the podcast early, if you want to get the podcast without ads, if you want to get exclusive early access to, uh, merch and collabs, if you want to support your favorite podcasters, patreon.com slash the smoking tire podcast is where you do it. Uh, and we'll do a few of these questions, uh, one from Tulane Backshot.

• 1:11:21Matt Farah?

  Daily a Cybertruck for a month or drive a Model T cross country?

• 1:11:27Speaker 01

  Model T cross country?

• 1:11:28Matt Farah?

  Model T cross country.

• 1:11:29Speaker 01

  That's a story.

• 1:11:30Matt Farah?

  Yeah, that's a story.

• 1:11:31Speaker 01

  It's 50 stories.

• 1:11:32Matt Farah?

  It's an adventure. Uh, yeah, that's true. Dad, we were just talking about this, uh, with, uh, with Spike and, uh, Jerry at the thing. There, we were, he was saying, uh, that the famous Leno quote that said like, you know, if, if, if you, if I, if you put me in a fucking cryo thing and I went to sleep for a hundred years and woke up and there was an electric car and a steam car, you know, I would take the steam car because I at least know, know, I know I can get somewhere with that. I don't necessarily agree with it to that degree, but that was the vibe. But I would rather go Model T cross-country, assuming there was someone with me who knew how to fix it. Just the Tiptronic, good name.

• 1:12:14Matt Farah?

  Given all the free stuff to do for Car Week, is attending the Quail worth the $1,500 ticket price? Obviously, that depends on one's financial situation, but curious if you have any thoughts. I wouldn't pay $1,500 to go to the Quail. I would not.

• 1:12:30Speaker 01

  I wouldn't, I wouldn't either. I wouldn't stretch to pay that. I mean, there are people there that that's no, that's no problem for them, fine. But if this is like, oh, you know, it's this, or three tickets to Taylor Swift for three friends, because those are expensive.

• 1:12:43Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:12:44Speaker 01

  I think the fact, I saw so many of the cars that were at Quail parked around Carmel.

• 1:12:50Matt Farah?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:12:50Speaker 01

  The whole Pagani display was literally on a street we walked past.

• 1:12:54Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:12:54Speaker 01

  You can see a lot of these cars around, and you can get plenty of value from Car Week without having to pay the money to then go stand around them on a stage.

• 1:13:02Matt Farah?

  Yeah. Quail is cool. Like, don't get me wrong, it is. I, I just, it's, people ask me about ticket prices all the time, and I'm very spoiled because we get access for work and we don't have to pay for ticket prices. Would I pay retail to go to something like that? Probably not. Probably wouldn't. That's a crazy amount of money to go to an event.

• 1:13:20Speaker 01

  But we have a friend of ours paid retail, and he had a great time.

• 1:13:24Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:13:24Speaker 01

  Another friend of mine from college, his friend paid for his ticket, and they had a great time.

• 1:13:28Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:13:28Speaker 01

  For the people that can totally afford it, they, Quail puts on an amazing event. The cars are rad, the food and drink and everything there is like, I mean, it is a magical bubble land.

• 1:13:40Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:13:40Speaker 01

  You know?

• 1:13:40Matt Farah?

  The food is on the level, the food and drink are on the level of like a medium-high-end wedding.

• 1:13:45Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 1:13:46Matt Farah?

  Which is pretty good for a car show.

• 1:13:48Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:13:49Matt Farah?

  And it's all included. You don't have to spend any money once you're in the door.

• 1:13:52Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:13:53Matt Farah?

  And, you know, if you're pretty committed, you could take advantage of that. I spend most of the time talking to people and not, I don't think I ate hardly anything.

• 1:14:00Speaker 01

  I ate once.

• 1:14:01Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:14:02Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:14:02Matt Farah?

  I didn't eat really anything.

• 1:14:04Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:14:05Matt Farah?

  I actually, you know, that whole week, because I didn't work out, we just, we walked around a lot, but I didn't work out. I only ate two meals a day the whole week. I fully, I fully ate 30% less food because I wasn't working out. Which is, I think, how bodies are supposed to work. Five liter of cola, a 5.0 liter of cola, that's pretty good.

• 1:14:27Speaker 01

  It's great.

• 1:14:27Matt Farah?

  Uh, what's your best example of don't meet your car heroes? For me, it was a Cobra. I'm 6'5" with 14 shoes, size 14 shoes, yeah. Yeah, Cobras are for everybody. Um, I mean, the obvious one is the DeLorean, even though the car wasn't that disappointing. It just isn't great for LA.

• 1:14:50Speaker 01

  It's not a hero car, but I thought the Dark Horse was going to be amazing because the GT350 was amazing, the Mach 1 was amazing, the 500 was awesome for what it is. And I just went, oh, it's just more Mustang with more engineering? Great. And then it was like, the steering was weird and it felt too big and it was like, the screens were bad and I just, it was definitely the lesser Mustang, even though it cost more than all the ones I mentioned.

• 1:15:16Matt Farah?

  I think there's car, like, I think a lot of very pretty GT cars, like, the GT cars and luxury cars often like, look cool and are, you know, comfortable and have nice leather and whatever, but are not particularly interesting to drive, a lot of times. You know?

• 1:15:37Speaker 01

  Sometimes they lack a sharpness that you associate with the brand, like, the 550 Ferrari.

• 1:15:42Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:15:43Speaker 01

  You think Ferrari, you think race car, da-da-da-da, and then you drive their GT car, which, and it's doing its job.

• 1:15:48Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:15:48Speaker 01

  But it will lack some of the things that you might associate with that brand.

• 1:15:51Matt Farah?

  Sure, yeah, yeah. Uh, granny shifting, not double clutching like you should.

• 1:15:58Matt Farah?

  Uh, the McLaren S1 at the quail reminded me of a previous thought I had. Why don't manufacturers bring back classic car designs with modern powertrains? Uh, for example, a G80 M3 with an E46 M3 body. I mean, I don't know if, if old bodies will meet current regulations, for one.

• 1:16:19Speaker 01

  Or the engines might not fit, for two.

• 1:16:20Matt Farah?

  And it might not fit.

• 1:16:21Speaker 01

  Packaging is a big thing.

• 1:16:22Matt Farah?

  Yeah. They, I mean, BMW told us they couldn't make the fucking beaver teeth any smaller because it wouldn't work with the cooling, right?

• 1:16:28Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:16:29Matt Farah?

  Well, it certainly won't work with an E46 nose.

• 1:16:34Matt Farah?

  I mean Ford is like approved Revology for doing those Mustangs. So it's like there's another company doing it, but it's got the blessing of Ford. So that's things. There's, there's recreations and continuations of a variety of cars. It's just not from manufacturers. If a manufact- I mean, I don't know if can a ma- I don't know if a manufacturer can sell cars in mass and then also sell one model as ultra low volume.

• 1:17:03Speaker 01

  Oh, that's a good question.

• 1:17:04Matt Farah?

  I think your whole, no, because Morgan said, yeah, more, the guy from Morgan, John from Morgan told me. Your, your whole company, if you're ultra low volume, which Morgan is considered in the US. It's like 375 cars across the entire company in America. So if you're a company like BMW, that's a bigger company than that. You can't build a niche product like that for ultra low volume. Yeah.

• 1:17:29Speaker 01

  Got it.

• 1:17:29Matt Farah?

  So that's why it's third party because they're restorations on an individual level. Yeah. Um, last one, and then it's time I get some dinner. Uh, Ted Stryker says, I've noticed that my hometown has added a mock E to their police force, which got me thinking, uh, what cars would make the best police cars that aren't widely used?

• 1:17:57Matt Farah?

  I mean, that aren't widely used.

• 1:18:00Speaker 01

  How do we define, and how do we define best? I mean, because these departments, there's auditions for their cars.

• 1:18:05Matt Farah?

  They literally.

• 1:18:06Speaker 01

  All the OEMs show up and they go, our car can do this and withstand that. And the maintenance is this, and they all campaigned to get chosen.

• 1:18:12Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:18:14Speaker 01

  Um, but like what's a, by the way.

• 1:18:16Matt Farah?

  That Cadillac concept.

• 1:18:18Speaker 01

  Quick worst in show is goes to the Monterey SWAT department.

• 1:18:22Matt Farah?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:18:22Speaker 01

  That had a giant lifted like MRAP machine that did nothing except spend book money on that machine.

• 1:18:30Matt Farah?

  There was one, my worst in show at the quail, aside from the, yeah, SWAT team, was a Lamborghini Revuelto that had the person's Instagram handle on it on three different places. You shouldn't be, you should not be allowed to show your car at the quail if it has an Instagram handle on it. You shouldn't.

• 1:18:49Speaker 01

  Is that our generation's version, though, of putting the poster in front of your car that says, "This is my Corvette."

• 1:18:56Matt Farah?

  Shouldn't go to the quail either. That's a real Baja Cantina vibe, dude.

• 1:19:01Speaker 01

  I like Baja Cantina, man. You see a bunch of great shit there.

• 1:19:03Matt Farah?

  I like Baja Cantina, too. It's just a shit show.

• 1:19:06Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's true. But there was like a Ford GT and then there's a hot rod and then there's a super old Ferrari and everyone's just hanging out getting at Taco.

• 1:19:14Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:19:14Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:19:15Matt Farah?

  I mean, it's alright.

• 1:19:16Speaker 01

  That used to be one of the cool free events.

• 1:19:18Matt Farah?

  It was. It still kind of is. It's just like, you just, you need to like park somewhere else or something. Just getting in and out of that place.

• 1:19:25Speaker 01

  Yeah, true.

• 1:19:28Matt Farah?

  What other car would be a good, I mean, the, a good police car? Fucking Priuses, dude. They should all be driving Priuses. Every cop should be driving Prius. We need to fucking emasculate.

• 1:19:41Speaker 01

  That's a good idea. Actually, yeah, EV calms them down.

• 1:19:44Matt Farah?

  Yeah. I don't, I don't want, I don't want them to have fucking paramilitary shit.

• 1:19:49Speaker 01

  I don't either.

• 1:19:50Matt Farah?

  Emasculate.

• 1:19:50Speaker 01

  Prius is a good idea.

• 1:19:51Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:19:51Speaker 01

  I support that.

• 1:19:52Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:19:53Speaker 01

  And because a lot of states are banning police chases now, you don't need to be able to hit people, so.

• 1:19:59Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:19:59Speaker 01

  Kind of works.

• 1:20:00Matt Farah?

  Uh, that's our show. Thanks for listening, everybody. Of course, patreon.com/thesmokingtirepodcast is where you get all of the things. Uh, you can get the show without ads. You can get the show ahead of time. You can get the show, um, you, you get it. You've heard the thing. Also, last but certainly not least, shout out to our friend Larry Chen, uh, sent us his new book, Life at Shutter Speed. It is a beautiful, um, coffee table book, uh, from Carrera Books. And it comes in this case. It is, uh, really nice paper, really beautiful prints. There is quite a few, ooh, it even smells like a good book. There's quite a few photos of my cars in here.

• 1:20:40Matt Farah?

  And, uh, man, there's just thousands of images in this book and, uh, you should, uh, you should check it out for yourself. If there's a car person in your life that, uh, could use a gift for their home, I do recommend that. Larry will be on the show in a couple of weeks to talk about it. Anything else, Zach?

• 1:20:58Speaker 01

  Nope.

• 1:20:59Matt Farah?

  Alright, see you next time. Bye.