Pod Insights The Rest Is Football Spain win the World Cup as Rodri reigns supreme About this episode Gary Lineker, Alan Shearer, Micah Richards, and Joe Cole reflect on Spain beating Argentina 1-0 in the World Cup final in a match that saw De La Fuente's side dominate Messi's Argentina from start to finish
We also look back at our best moments of the tournament with our intrepid England reporter Rob Jones
Thanks for listening to The Rest is Football throughout this World Cup, we'll be back in August ahead of the new Premier League season
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1:24 Speaker 04 Hello and welcome to the Rest Is Football. Well, this is the last episode of this particular World Cup, and what a great ride it's been. Shame England couldn't go closer. In the end, it was Spain's triumph, and I'll be discussing that with Joe Cole, Alan Shearer, Micah Richards, and Rob Jones will join us too.
1:44 Speaker 05 Spain got their hands on the World Cup trophy and were the first team to do so without ever, ever going behind in the tournament. What a performance. Who could have called that? Oh, I did 40 days ago. Hold on, hold on, before you go on.
1:58 Speaker 06 I called it too, just so you know.
2:01 Speaker 05 Don't interrupt my opening, okay, I've not finished.
2:04 Speaker 06 Okay, well hurry up then.
2:06 Speaker 05 I'm gonna look up here now and say, here for the last hurrah is Joe Cole plus Alan Shearer and Micah Richards. Who said Spain would win it? And they both hot-footed it, straight back from the stadium. How was it chaps? To be there, we weren't there, we watched it here.
2:22 Speaker 07 It was great to be there, wasn't it? But the game itself was, oh, it was, yeah, it was poor. But I was delighted Spain won because they were the better team, they tried to play all the football.
2:34 Speaker 07 I mean, it was just chaos getting in and out of the stadium.
2:36 Speaker 06 You was losing your mind a little bit, weren't you?
2:38 Speaker 07 I was going mad.
2:39 Speaker 05 Really? Was he having his trot?
2:43 Speaker 06 When we pulled into the car park, he was like, where the fuck are we supposed to be going? Why is no one here to take us in there? And afterwards, it was like, Alan, she'll have no one's here, it's about half a mile walk, we'll be fine.
2:55 Speaker 05 You know what the problem is, Micah? He's now used to the Netflix stream.
2:59 Speaker 06 He's got a smile on him. But the fans, Argentina fans, were great, from start to finish.
3:06 Speaker 05 Even at the end, weren't they?
3:07 Speaker 06 Even at the end, there was singing. Obviously, the way it ended, I felt for Messi, it would have been a lovely send-off for him.
3:15 Speaker 05 He's done all right.
3:16 Speaker 06 Yeah, but ultimately, Spain were the better team, by far.
3:21 Speaker 05 You missed the memo, huh? We've got all nice suited and booted in here.
3:24 Speaker 07 Lads, I have to say, you look amazing. Lacoste, too much. Lacoste, too much. Lacoste, too much.
3:34 Speaker 05 Lacoste, nothing.
3:36 Speaker 06 What have you come up?
3:38 Speaker 07 I don't have to get dressed up, I mean, cock comes, no one sees me, they just listen to me.
3:42 Speaker 06 It's our last show. You're not making a little bit of effort for the guys?
3:45 Speaker 07 You're coming in jackets.
3:46 Speaker 06 All the people behind the scenes who no one ever sees, all the hard work they've put in.
3:51 Speaker 07 One of them.
3:52 Speaker 06 All the effort, and you come dressed like that?
3:54 Speaker 07 Two of the guys just said, Ali look a lot smarter than Micah does, and that fucking right.
3:59 Speaker 06 This is magnificent, isn't it?
4:01 Speaker 07 You look it well.
4:01 Speaker 05 It's sad though, being the last show in a way, isn't it?
4:03 Speaker 06 What are we gonna do?
4:06 Speaker 07 Have a holiday.
4:07 Speaker 05 Have a little break, have a little break. Before we get into the important thing in the football. Halftime show, you were there, you two. I'm sorry.
4:18 Speaker 06 Before you all be negative. Murder Boy was good and Shakira was good.
4:23 Speaker 05 I'm not saying any of them weren't good.
4:26 Speaker 06 Listen to you, come on.
4:27 Speaker 04 Shakira was the best bit about it.
4:29 Speaker 06 I've seen him shake the hair on his trip as well.
4:31 Speaker 04 Yeah, but they moved, they don't move like that though.
4:33 Speaker 07 What about the two Ronnies though?
4:34 Speaker 04 Oh mate, with Madonna in the car. That's when I got up and went to the, yeah, I couldn't see that.
4:39 Speaker 06 That was, that was ridiculous.
4:41 Speaker 05 Ronaldinho.
4:41 Speaker 07 One thing I'll say, right, this is what baffles me about why football thinks it needs to do this, or any sport. Right, if you go to Glastonbury and you watch like a set, do you want a break in the middle for a five-a-side football game?
4:53 Speaker 04 No.
4:54 Speaker 07 It makes no sense. I don't, I mean, some people like it, but I can't. Tell me what it's like, because they do it at the Champions League final and they get great artists, but it's for the television, it's a television show. And it doesn't even sound great in the stadium, I don't think. Bieber's great, isn't he? He's got some tunes, but. Yeah, but they were, they were great artists, but it just, it was. Yeah, yeah, but it just doesn't. Flat, isn't it, inside the stadium? Oh, it was, wasn't it? It just was flat, wasn't it? The best part about it was.
5:19 Speaker 06 They didn't have much time though, did they? It was all doing little sort of.
5:23 Speaker 07 Half an hour, half an hour.
5:25 Speaker 06 It was like ten hours, we had half an hour, what, is that three minutes each? It wasn't, yeah, it wasn't the best performance.
5:32 Speaker 07 I'm just imagining Ronaldinho and Ronaldo when they were asked to do that, to sit in the car and like boot. It's like, seriously lads, what are you doing man? Come on. Fucking hell, you're two greats, you don't have to do that.
5:44 Speaker 05 They can get away with anything.
5:46 Speaker 07 No, they can't get away with anything.
5:47 Speaker 06 Shearer or Lineker.
5:48 Speaker 07 Oh, it would have been great, wouldn't it?
5:50 Speaker 06 There's a price for that. There's a price for this.
5:56 Speaker 05 He'd be having a rant.
5:57 Speaker 01 They must have got a lot paid for that.
5:59 Speaker 05 Yeah, they did. It sort of shows you that the final wasn't that good, that we've just spent five minutes talking about the half-time show that we're saying is not as important as the football should be.
6:08 Speaker 05 Spain, who wants to start? I mean, what a World Cup joke.
6:12 Speaker 06 Mate, it's unbelievable. It was an absolute... Argentina were hanging on from the start. The way that they played, obviously they won the last Euros, the way they played with De la Fuente, he coached them all through the youth teams, they got a way of playing. The pressing, we're sitting there, guys, we're going, they can't keep up this pressing for 70 minutes. It's like, and the energy, Almo, unbelievable. That's the blueprint for England, that, that for me, watching that. De la Fuente in...
6:39 Speaker 05 Can we play like that?
6:41 Speaker 06 Well, no, what I mean is, we can, if you develop the players to do that, and they know, when you turn up for England... Look, I said before the tournament, I was worried we wouldn't have enough possession to win the tournament, and that's exactly what happened. We couldn't handle the ball, we left Palmer at home, Foden at home. Trent, all these players who can handle the ball. Spain handled the ball all the time, but them players have been developed with that throughout 15s, 16s, 17s, 18s. And they just, when they step up for the national team, it's second nature.
7:07 Speaker 05 Do you think it's a coincidence that the two coaches involved brought... They coached the youth teams, they coached the under-21s, and they've come through. No real club football. And we had that for a tiny little spell, didn't we, Lee Carsley and Ashley Colton, who, obviously Carsley had been involved in the youth setups, et cetera. So you, because you don't get that much time perhaps with players.
7:33 Speaker 05 If you've spent time with them as young when they're growing up, do we think that would make a difference or not? It has to those two countries.
7:42 Speaker 01 Lee was in that situation, wasn't he? If I remember rightly, didn't he make his feelings known and say he didn't want...
7:49 Speaker 06 No, he wanted it, but they asked him at the end, he already knew he wasn't going to get it, and they got asked the pressure. And I tell you the game what messed him up, Al, I was at it, it was at Wembley, Greece, they played Greece and we got beat at Wembley. He won five games, and in the sixth game they were beat by Greece, and he played Bellingham and Foden.
8:07 Speaker 05 And it just didn't work, do you know what I mean? And I think the FA missed the trick there. Because the players love them, the 21s, they've won two tournaments.
8:15 Speaker 06 Yes, what would you say our DNA is and that's been the talk? So in terms of the way Tuchel wants to play, wants to play on that transition. As we've seen with Medweke and Gordon, Rashford and Saka. High pace, high energy. But like you said, need a little bit more. I think you make a great point about Foden, Palmer, people who can handle the ball. But if you're not going to be taught that way, if you go to Chelsea, you're allowed to play one way. If you play at Man City, play another way. And then you go to England and it's a little bit different. It needs to be from the start, doesn't it?
8:48 Speaker 05 I'm going to drift us away from this. I'm slightly concerned that we'll end up talking just about England. This is Spain's moment. What is it that Spain do? How do they do it and what makes them so special?
9:01 Speaker 07 They're brilliant, they're amazing at possession. One thing, they're brilliant out of possession. So the two most important things. So when they lose the ball, the team have done that much chasing the opposition that they just go boof, boof, boof, straight at them. And for large periods of that game today, they went after Argentina when they lost the ball and Argentina had no other option than to kick it long. And straight away, you get the ball back and you go again. And that is what is so good about them.
9:36 Speaker 05 Did you notice at the ground today, both of you, like whenever Rodri or Ruiz got his head turned and he's looking up, the amount of runners that they have. It could be Cucurella, it could be Poro, it could be Baena.
9:50 Speaker 05 Like unbelievable movement, constantly stretching them. Argentina, no answer. It's like when the Spanish players have the ball, there seem to be so many options for them. Their movement and you can see, they seem to move more than any other team that I've seen in this tournament. And it's like they rotate and there's little triangles.
10:08 Speaker 06 But that's bravery though as well.
10:12 Speaker 06 Bravery is not just tackling, bravery is getting on the ball, on the ball when there's pressure on you. Have you seen Rodri, watching Rodri today?
10:21 Speaker 05 He's so good.
10:21 Speaker 06 He's just, he's playing different football, he's so composed, he's always in the right position. The rotation between him and Ruiz and then if Ruiz doesn't do it, you've got Pedri. Dani Olmo. What a player he is. He can press, he can get on the ball, he always wants to receive on the half turn and he can run in behind. In terms of what did they do so good, they always give each other an option no matter where they are on the pitch. And they always try play out and it comes from the goalkeeper as well. If you look at the way of the pass that he plays to, whether it be Kabassi or Laporte on the left hand side. Everyone is just in sync and know exactly what they want to do.
11:01 Speaker 07 Do you know how we're on about them defensively, brilliant. I mean, all of the back four would be in the team of the tournament and there's no doubt about it. This team has faced 10 shots on target.
11:12 Speaker 05 It's unbelievable, isn't it?
11:13 Speaker 07 10 shots on target is all they've faced in 8 games.
11:16 Speaker 06 I've hit one goal.
11:18 Speaker 07 So it's not, that's not just a back four.
11:21 Speaker 05 They've also never trailed in a game. De la Fuente has never lost them, ever lost and he won every game in tournaments. In two tournaments that he's been in charge, he won every game in the Euros, he won every game in this, except Kate Verdi who, I mean, that makes that even more extraordinary.
11:36 Speaker 07 That doesn't happen with a brilliant back four. That has to happen with a brilliant midfield and a brilliant forward line who all do the work, who all do the press. When they lose it, they all go. Yes, they all have to know their roles in the back, but that all comes from every single player being at it and understanding what they have to do.
11:59 Speaker 05 They're completely dominated. Do you think that's the most one-sided? I mean, they didn't batter them in terms of goals scored. I mean, some of the stats here, 20 shots to 2. I think Argentina were very late when they were chasing it as well. 117th minute before their first shot. They had 12 on target against none. 65% possession, it felt like more to be honest, touches in the opposition. I mean, it's just there, it's obvious. They were so dominant.
12:25 Speaker 06 What I will say though, even though they were very dominant, I thought Argentina defended well. They defend so well, so if you look at them compared to England, when England go in low blood, Yeah. It's like they don't know what to do. Hmm. When Argentina, it's like they're just brilliant. Yeah. At knowing when to jump, knowing when to drop off, knowing when to buy a foul because tactical fouls. Yeah. They're the best at it. You know, the house array as well. Hmm. From them.
12:53 Speaker 05 Sort of bitter after the final whistle, I think Paredes. I mean, he let himself down.
12:56 Speaker 06 That's embarrassing, that.
12:58 Speaker 07 Yeah, it was.
12:58 Speaker 06 Win or lose, you've got to shake hands.
13:00 Speaker 05 I mean, most of their players were magnanimous and they were, you know, people like Messi on the pitch and change. Everyone was fine. Paredes, Paredes did get given a red card after the game.
13:09 Speaker 06 After the game.
13:09 Speaker 05 I think which is just, Enzo Fernandez.
13:14 Speaker 06 Set off.
13:14 Speaker 05 Crazy, wasn't he? First one was for whinging, wasn't it?
13:18 Speaker 07 Well, he got, yeah, he got done for dissent, which he should never have done because, but then to do.
13:23 Speaker 05 No wonder Spain are so good. Look, Kabassi can fly.
13:27 Speaker 07 To go into that tackle when you're on a yellow card, it was always going to be hard enough anyway, as it was.
13:32 Speaker 05 Yeah.
13:32 Speaker 07 But then going down to the, that's when they just thought, yeah, Spain are going to win this. And he's cost his country massively, as much as he helped get them through to the final with that wonderful goal against England. He's cost his country tonight.
13:47 Speaker 05 Let me talk about one or two of the individuals. I want to start with Pau Kabassi, who I think we flagged up a couple of years ago. I thought he was going to be the next, and he struggled a little bit with.
13:57 Speaker 06 You flagged him. That was, that's all you. You can have all the, not the oracle, it's all you.
14:04 Speaker 06 That is all you. Take it.
14:06 Speaker 05 You know, even when you've given me a bit of credit, you've called yourself the oracle. I get it. Well, I do watch a lot of Barcelona, Spanish football.
14:13 Speaker 06 We have got a pod.
14:14 Speaker 05 I just, I mean, he's had that mad high line at Barcelona at times and that's, that would expose any defender. But with this one, they do play a high line, but they'll also drop when, and you can see, I mean, a young player of the tournament, an absolutely meritorious honour.
14:29 Speaker 06 Hmm, meritorious.
14:31 Speaker 05 Deserving, Michael.
14:32 Speaker 06 Can he say, oh, deserving? I learn to me every day, yeah. Meritorious. Meritorious. Didn't know it existed.
14:39 Speaker 05 You've heard of a meritocracy?
14:41 Speaker 06 I've heard of, yeah.
14:42 Speaker 07 No, you're bullshitting.
14:46 Speaker 05 It's all right, Al, it's not a brand of clothing.
14:52 Speaker 06 No, but to have that.
14:53 Speaker 05 To defend yourself, Kebasi, I mean, how, I mean, because it's quite unusual for defenders to come through. Unlike, you know, people like Lamine Yamal that we've seen have broken through brilliant as forwards. But as defenders, that's more unusual.
15:07 Speaker 06 I think it's his football IQ, he's very good on the ball. He's playing in a team which like to keep the ball, which makes him look even better. I think you're right in terms of he struggled at Barcelona when they had that high line. I think a lot of praise has to go to Laporte as well, because he's marshalled him through that as well. You always need an experienced head. But for him to perform like that at 19 is just remarkable. And he gets better every time I watch him. And you know, sometimes when he played for Barcelona, he'd get caught out. He wasn't getting caught out in this team. He's sort of like, he's growing, he's learning every single time. He's a superstar already.
15:45 Speaker 05 So a lot of Spanish fans singing outside. I was out with them earlier.
15:49 Speaker 06 We were having a little, we were having a little dance.
15:51 Speaker 05 I can't dance, Mike. I was having a little jump up and down.
15:55 Speaker 05 I want to talk, obviously, Rodri, Player of the Tournament, Golden Ball winner. Pep called it before the tournament, he said, "You will see the best Rodri in the World Cup." He was right.
16:05 Speaker 04 Yeah, Pep knows what he's talking about. He was brilliant. Do you know what I love about Rodri?
16:10 Speaker 05 Excuse me. Do you know what? I broadcast for 30 years and that's the first time I ever sneezed during a broadcast.
16:17 Speaker 04 Really?
16:18 Speaker 05 I was having a conversation recently, because I...
16:19 Speaker 06 Oh, another record, is it?
16:28 Speaker 05 It's the only one I'll keep, Mike. I've blessed all the other fuckers.
16:32 Speaker 06 You know what?
16:33 Speaker 04 One sneeze in a thousand shows.
16:36 Speaker 06 I can't take full credit for that. Joe, our wonderful producer, gave me that one.
16:42 Speaker 05 Yeah, all right. Thanks, Joe. You're fired.
16:47 Speaker 05 But the other Joe, Rodri, I mean, come on.
16:49 Speaker 04 Do you know what I love about Rodri? Right, like, he's so big and powerful, but he moves the ball so quick. And Ray Wilkins used to say it in commentary. He says, he says, "He moves the ball so quick, the commentator don't get a chance to say his name." And that's what he does. When you play number 10 and you have to hold him...
17:07 Speaker 05 Midfielder, look at the red up and they're panicking, nothing worse than that. You want the ones that just take the first touch, bang, then they whip it into you. And he does that better than anyone. He's got a brilliant range of passing and he's so big.
17:18 Speaker 06 Big lad indeed.
17:19 Speaker 07 He's a giant, yeah.
17:20 Speaker 05 I'm really pleased for him because remember when we interviewed him, what a lovely guy. He's a friend of the show.
17:25 Speaker 06 Did we do that? Was it being you, was it?
17:27 Speaker 05 12 months ago, yeah.
17:28 Speaker 06 I thought you hogged that one by yourself. No, did we do it at Man City?
17:31 Speaker 05 Yeah, he came at Man City.
17:32 Speaker 06 Oh yes, I was there, yes.
17:34 Speaker 07 That was memorable then.
17:35 Speaker 05 He just won his Ballon d'Or, remember? And he's got a really good chance now of winning another one, I would think.
17:41 Speaker 06 He's unbelievable, isn't he? To come from ACL and do that. Spatial awareness. Talk me through that spatial awareness as a midfielder. Because I know you was a bit in the number 10 and wide areas. He's in that number 6 area but always seems to be in the right place at the right time.
17:59 Speaker 05 I played in, we used to all play 4-4. So I was playing centre mid when I'd come through as like, I was playing against Patrick Vieira. It was like I was a mascot going up against him, do you know what I mean? But what you had to have, when you're slight in them days, you had to have an awareness of where people are. And I think you just build up a natural, you constantly got to check your shoulders. And I think he does that better than anyone. He's always looking. He looks like, do you know when you get a great heavyweight boxer but they move like a middleweight like Usik? And it don't look right. That's what Rodri, he moves like a number 10 but he's like 6'4". And I think he's fast becoming the best we've seen in that position. Even better than Busquets. I'm going to put, after this... And he's a different player, Kante's more all over the shop.
18:44 Speaker 05 The comparison to Busquets before the tournament, I was like, yeah, Busquets is the man. But now I'm looking at Rodri and, oh, he might have a little bit more because he can score a goal as well. What about Spain overall? Definitely probably now the team of this century, I would say. They've won five of the last 10 major tournaments, having only won one before that, which was a hell of a long time ago. 64 Euros.
19:06 Speaker 07 Go back to the first game of the tournament, 0-0 with Spain and whatever, 0-0 with Cape Peri.
19:12 Speaker 05 Well, yeah, but the first, same thing 2010, they lost to Switzerland, didn't they?
19:17 Speaker 07 And there's no panic. They believe in what they do and who they are and how their system goes. And they've just basically played everyone off the park, haven't they?
19:28 Speaker 05 What about this for a record? Fabian Ruiz, 50 games for Spain. Never lost a game.
19:34 Speaker 07 He was saying that in the car, the way, the way, weren't we?
19:37 Speaker 02 That's incredible.
19:38 Speaker 07 He went, Mike went to me, is that in, what did he say?
19:41 Speaker 06 Is it starts?
19:42 Speaker 07 Is it starts? Oh, whatever. I said, no, it's 50 caps. Never lost a game in 50 caps.
19:48 Speaker 06 And he won the Champions League.
19:49 Speaker 02 Is he the most, is he the most underrated player in world football? When you talk about PSG, they talk about, they talk about Vitez.
19:56 Speaker 06 No longer, Joao Neves.
19:57 Speaker 05 If he was, he won't be.
19:58 Speaker 02 Yeah, but I'm saying, but you, you sort of brush over him because he just gets the job done, don't you?
20:02 Speaker 06 Yeah.
20:02 Speaker 02 Yeah, top drawer.
20:04 Speaker 05 Yeah.
20:04 Speaker 02 Top top.
20:05 Speaker 05 I mean, talk Ballon d'Or, he's won the Champions League and, and the World Cup.
20:10 Speaker 07 Hmm.
20:10 Speaker 05 Did he feature enough for PSG? Maybe not, but let's talk about another player that's obviously in contention for the Ballon d'Or and that he probably would have been assured if they'd won, and that's Lionel Messi. Well, I mean, it was his day because they, somebody finally worked out a way to stop Messi and that's by having the ball all the game and not allowing him to get it. But, I mean, what a tournament, what, I mean, I don't know whether this will be the end of his international career, but if it is, wow, 20 years.
20:39 Speaker 02 I think it'll be the end. Looking at him, looking the way, the emotion on him afterwards, I think, I think he's so intelligent, he's such a brilliant footballer, the greatest we've ever seen. But I think he'll probably, he'll probably call it a day now. I would like to see him do one big game in Argentina where they can give him his flowers properly and then now it's a new era.
20:58 Speaker 05 They have already done that, sort of.
21:00 Speaker 02 They've got, they've got to do it again.
21:01 Speaker 06 They've got to do it again.
21:02 Speaker 05 They do it every year.
21:03 Speaker 06 Yeah, just do it all the time.
21:05 Speaker 05 And that's, that's lovely as well, that embrace between passing of the torch, possibly.
21:09 Speaker 02 I mean, that might be an iconic picture, you know.
21:12 Speaker 05 It won't be as iconic as the one with the bathtub.
21:14 Speaker 02 Yeah.
21:15 Speaker 07 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
21:16 Speaker 06 I forgot that picture.
21:17 Speaker 05 Do you know what? We showed it yesterday.
21:18 Speaker 06 Yeah.
21:19 Speaker 05 Why aren't you paying attention?
21:20 Speaker 06 No, I was drunk.
21:24 Speaker 05 It's a good time to move on. Okay.
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22:46 Speaker 05 A key member of our triff squad who we've not heard from tonight is England reporter Rob Jones. Rob, you've been following the team all tournament, but where are you now?
22:56 Speaker 04 Well, eventually I have made it back to New York City, desperate to try and wang on myself or play at that Rest Is Football wrap party this evening. Let's just get into the details, though, of England's final journey back home. The team jet took off from Miami International Airport at around 6:04 this morning. A long journey back, we're told that the star man Jude Bellingham was in row seven. A little nod to the number of goals he's scored.
23:19 Speaker 05 Rob, it's okay.
23:21 Speaker 04 It's over.
23:22 Speaker 05 It's over.
23:22 Speaker 04 No more detail.
23:23 Speaker 05 We don't need to hear about any good players anymore.
23:25 Speaker 04 Fantastic.
23:26 Speaker 05 No, you're okay.
23:27 Speaker 04 Good. Let's leave the mic there. Let's move the furniture.
23:31 Speaker 05 Get in.
23:32 Speaker 04 Get on the sofa, Rob.
23:33 Speaker 05 Come and join us.
23:34 Speaker 04 Come here, matey.
23:35 Speaker 05 Between the blazes.
23:36 Speaker 06 How you doing, sir?
23:37 Speaker 05 All right, mate, yeah. We're now the core five.
23:39 Speaker 06 Whoa.
23:40 Speaker 05 We're now the core five.
23:42 Speaker 06 Did you not get the memo either?
23:42 Speaker 07 You've been brilliant, by the way.
23:43 Speaker 04 Thank you.
23:44 Speaker 07 You have.
23:44 Speaker 05 Yeah, well done, Rob.
23:45 Speaker 04 It's been great to be welcomed into the team. You know you're part of the team when you just get a message out of the blue from Shearer just saying, Jasper, come, man. Nothing else. Just abuse for your outfit. So I feel settled and part of it.
23:57 Speaker 07 Yeah, you've been superb.
23:58 Speaker 05 You seemed really weird when you actually sat there, not on that screen.
24:01 Speaker 04 Just weird in general, I think, yeah.
24:03 Speaker 05 And you've gone quite safe with your outfit today, haven't you?
24:07 Speaker 04 You can't go too far wrong with a watch, surely.
24:09 Speaker 06 What did you have on the other day? What was it?
24:11 Speaker 04 What were you wearing last night, by the way?
24:12 Speaker 06 Last night, what was it? Oh, a Mary. Never Mary.
24:16 Speaker 04 The worst thing I've thought, what is that? I mean, it's probably worth more than my house.
24:19 Speaker 06 What was you wearing?
24:21 Speaker 07 It's a nice little number, I thought.
24:23 Speaker 06 It was terrible.
24:25 Speaker 07 Say what you mean, Mike.
24:27 Speaker 05 I thought side on, it was really nice.
24:29 Speaker 07 Thank you very much, yeah.
24:30 Speaker 05 We can talk about clothes all night, but what I want to do is discuss the moments of the tournament. So, who wants to start?
24:38 Speaker 07 Me.
24:39 Speaker 05 Go on, on the field or off the field?
24:41 Speaker 07 My moment of the tournament was England in the Azteca.
24:44 Speaker 06 Why are you stealing that? I did that on the BBC today. You knew for a while I was going to say that.
24:50 Speaker 07 Well, I was there. Were you there?
24:52 Speaker 06 No, I wasn't there.
24:53 Speaker 07 Okay, where were you?
24:54 Speaker 06 I was in the box.
24:54 Speaker 07 All right. I was in Mexico. I was at the game. It was, it was everything about it, from getting to the stadium, to the fans inside, to the performance from England, which was, will be remembered for a long, long time. One of the best England performances ever. So, that for me will stick with me. So, just the experience of the Aztec. I've never been there and heard so much about it.
25:20 Speaker 06 Same. Ditto.
25:22 Speaker 05 Oh, that's boring.
25:23 Speaker 06 I know, yeah. Cabral's goal. Cape Verde. Yes. Unbelievable strike. That was against Argentina, wasn't it? Argentina. To take them level. So, that was a great moment. I loved that goal.
25:40 Speaker 05 Rob?
25:40 Speaker 06 Great strike.
25:41 Speaker 04 Sort of at the top of the show, when you were out there, just how much it means to supporters. And I think FIFA have done their best to try and make it as inaccessible as possible, this World Cup. But watching England fans do Wonderwall, seeing fans in Kansas City, Argentina, Colombia. Went to one of the Netherlands game and that big orange wall that despite all the roadblocks, various ways, it still means so much to so many people, doesn't it?
26:03 Speaker 05 Go.
26:06 Speaker 02 I'd probably say, and this is probably me geeking over a first touch, Messi's touch for the goal when he roosted.
26:13 Speaker 05 The half volley touch.
26:14 Speaker 02 Just the half volley. Just watching Messi, knowing that it's the last time I'm going to see him. Yeah, so that touch, yeah, turned me on.
26:22 Speaker 06 What about yours?
26:23 Speaker 05 Mine?
26:24 Speaker 06 No, come on.
26:26 Speaker 05 I would say Harry Kane's winner against DR Congo, because I'm an England fan. And it was just a special, it was like, we needed it. So it was so important because the difference, yeah, we didn't win it anyway, but they can go home with their heads held high. If they'd have lost that game, DR Congo, and he turned it around for us. So I would go that.
26:49 Speaker 04 Well, that's it for this episode of The Rest Is Football. And that's it for the World Cup, of course. Spain are the champions. We'll be back in August with our regular podcast. And, and we'll be on Netflix too, baby. See you then.
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