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This One Skill Makes Every Relationship Better

The Mel Robbins Podcast

Hosted by Mel Robbins

47m
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Summary

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This episode argues that empathy is the ultimate superpower for building better relationships, resolving conflict, and becoming a more likable person, and that it is an easily trainable skill rooted in human hardwiring. The host outlines four practical, everyday ways to practice empathy: asking instead of guessing, going first with gestures like digital pebbling, offering tangible support without asking what someone needs, and continuing to wave to build community. Drawing on research from Harvard Medical School, the University of Toronto, and Stanford, the discussion shows that people consistently underestimate how much others appreciate small gestures and that everyday interactions present numerous daily opportunities to make others feel seen and heard.

  • Stop guessing what people are feeling and instead ask open questions like, tell me more about that. 9:53
  • Go first by sending digital pebbles, such as memes and links, to remind people you are thinking of them. 21:29
  • Support someone who is struggling by dropping off paper plates and disposable items rather than asking what they need. 28:21
  • Overcome the empathy perception gap by realizing that 96 percent of people are warm, caring, and ready to connect. 25:17

Chapters

  1. 0:00
    Podcast Intro & Sponsor

    Mel Robbins welcomes listeners and introduces the episode’s sponsor, Amica, before diving into the main topic.

  2. 1:59
    Defining Empathy as the Core Skill

    Mel explains that empathy, not sympathy or pity, is the key skill that makes people like you, grounding it in research and personal insight.

  3. 4:06
    Why Empathy Works: Reciprocity & Mirror Neurons

    She discusses the psychological mechanisms—law of reciprocity and mirror neurons—that make empathy a powerful connector between people.

  4. 7:19
    Research on Daily Empathy Opportunities

    Mel cites a University of Toronto study showing that listeners have about nine chances each day to practice empathy in everyday interactions.

  5. 8:11
    Four Simple Ways to Practice Empathy

    She outlines four actionable methods: ask instead of guess, go first (pebbling), act with paper plates, and keep waving, each designed to deepen connection.

  6. 18:17
    Go First: Pebbling and Social Initiatives

    She introduces the concept of pebbling—sending thoughtful gestures—to proactively build relationships and counter the empathy perception gap.

  7. 20:00
    Keep Waving: The Ripple Effect of Small Gestures

    She shares a story of a boy who, by simply waving, created a community, illustrating how minor acts of acknowledgment can generate widespread connection.

  8. 28:16
    Paper Plates: Action Without Asking

    Mel explains how simple acts like dropping off paper plates can show support without needing explicit requests, reinforcing empathy through tangible help.

  9. 45:13
    Closing Reflections & Call to Action

    Mel wraps up by urging listeners to practice the four empathy techniques daily, promising improved self-esteem and relationships.

Highlights

  • 7:15

    Nine Daily Chances for Empathydata

    Research published in the Journal of Psychological Science reveals that people have at least nine opportunities every day to practice empathy by making others feel understood and cared for.

  • 21:29

    The Modern Practice of Pebblinginsight

    Penguins offer pebbles to court mates, and humans use the digital equivalent by sending memes, links, and articles to show someone they are seen and remembered.

  • 25:17

    The Empathy Perception Gapinsight

    Stanford research on 5,000 students shows that people severely underestimate how supportive and appreciative others will be when approached, which prevents them from reaching out.

  • 28:21

    Drop Off Paper Plates Insteadstrategy

    When someone is struggling, do not ask them what they need; instead, drop off paper plates and plastic utensils to remove daily burdens like washing dishes.

  • 33:35

    Judge Caprio First Day Lessonstory

    A judge learned on his very first day in court after talking to a struggling mother that being a judge is about understanding the person in front of you, not just the law.

  • 37:47

    Four-Year-Old Builds Communitystory

    A lonely four-year-old boy named Roman in North Carolina started a neighborhood movement simply by constantly waving at people, resulting in a posse of adopted grandparents.

Quotes

  • “Empathy is a skill that powerful people have.”
    Mel Robbins · 2:22
  • “I got this wrong for a very long time because I, especially as a young parent, thought I could just understand how my kid was feeling.”
    Mel Robbins · 11:19
  • “The research says that you and I get about nine of these every single day.”
    Mel Robbins · 43:49
  • “When you practice empathy, you do the opposite. You stop and you ask.”
    Mel Robbins · 9:44
  • “The wave that you extend to the neighbor is the wave that you receive in return.”
    Mel Robbins · 37:47
  • Amica 1:13–1:36
  • Amica 15:39–15:56
  • Amica 46:32–47:07

About this episode

If you want stronger relationships with the people in your life, there’s one skill you can get better at right now: empathy. Empathy isn’t just something you feel. It’s something you practice – in the small, everyday moments when someone needs to feel understood, supported, remembered, or cared for. In this episode, Mel teaches you 4 simple, research-backed ways to practice empathy and build more trust, connection, and closeness with your partner, family, friends, coworkers, and even people you’ve just met. You’ll learn how to stop assuming you know what someone is feeling and truly understand them. You’ll see how to turn the thought “I should reach out” into real connection. And you’ll know how to show up for someone who is struggling without putting the burden on them to tell you what they need. Mel also shares fascinating research on connection, a powerful lesson from organizational psychologist Adam Grant on the small gestures that strengthen relationships, and an unforgettable story from the late Judge Frank Caprio about what it really means to see the person standing in front of you. You’ll learn: -The simple question that can help someone feel truly understood -How to get people to open up to you without pushing -How to stop overthinking and finally reach out -A better way to support someone who’s overwhelmed -How to show up for people in the good moments, too -The small actions that quietly build trust over time - How to create more moments of connection in your everyday life Strong relationships are built in the small moments. And when you start showing up differently in those moments, you don’t just make someone else’s life better. You make your own life better, too. This episode is sponsored by our exclusive insurance partner, Amica. For more resources related to today’s episode, click here for the podcast episode page. If you liked this episode, listen to this one next: Harvard Psychologist Shares 6 Words That Will Change Your Family. . Mel also wants to tell you: Try the 23g protein shot I drink every single morning Join 2 million readers loving my weekly newsletter - full of tips, tools, and inspiration The Let Them Theory: read the book everyone’s talking about Watch the episodes on YouTube Connect with me on Instagram Follow the show’s Instagram for clips, behind the scenes, and more Find some daily positivity on my TikTok Want zero ads? Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes ad-free Disclaimer

Transcript

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Topics

  • Harvard Medical School
  • Mass General Hospital
  • Wharton School of Business
  • Stanford
  • University of Toronto
  • Let Them Theory book
  • Concord, North Carolina
  • Rhode Island
  • Mass General

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