#2570 - Mystery Boys

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• 0:01Speaker 00

  The Joe Rogan Experience.

• 0:13Joe Rogan?

  So, hey, fellas.

• 0:14Speaker 02

  Hey, man.

• 0:15Joe Rogan?

  What's up? So, what is this internet thing? Explain this to me. I didn't want to do it off the air.

• 0:19Speaker 03

  I think Jamie should explain it, because it's out of my league. It's something to do with PHP certificates, some ability to counterfeit websites. You go into a website, and it does some kind of check, and this thing is a massive security flaw that's existed, I think, for 14 years, right, Jamie? Like, 14 years.

• 0:39Speaker 04

  There's the... I saw... So, what I just saw this popping up yesterday online, like, a bunch of warnings from a bunch of different Twitter accounts, including the FBI Cyber Division.

• 0:48Joe Rogan?

  So, let's read this. "FBI Cyber Division: Two Critical Vulnerabilities Have Been Identified in PHP, A Widely Used Programming Language That Powers Websites and Web Applications. These vulnerabilities, blah, blah, blah, could allow malicious cyber actors to remotely execute code in PHP core, potentially compromising sensitive data and networks. FBI urges Organizations to Take the Following Steps Now." So, it tells you all the things to do to... So, we're fucked. So, what's happening is AI is eventually going to figure out the code of everything that exists, and there'll be no more encryption. That's going to be gone. There's going to be no more passwords.

• 1:30Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:31Joe Rogan?

  That'll be useless.

• 1:31Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:32Joe Rogan?

  And it's going to get very squirrely, because money is online.

• 1:35Speaker 02

  Haven't they already made that... I mean, that octopus scandal was all about that backdoor they put into everything way back when, so...

• 1:42Joe Rogan?

  What is the octopus scandal? Which one's that?

• 1:44Speaker 02

  You know, octopus. It's connected to FC and all them. It was like Security Soft...

• 1:47Joe Rogan?

  I don't know, but you always do that. You know, you know.

• 1:50Speaker 02

  I feel like you had a guess or...

• 1:51Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I don't know, but not octopus. Have you heard of that before?

• 1:54Speaker 04

  Yeah, there's a whole documentary on Netflix about it.

• 1:56Speaker 02

  There you go. The Octopus Murders.

• 1:57Joe Rogan?

  Oh, the Octopus Murders. That's connected to that. Oh, okay.

• 2:01Speaker 02

  So, yeah.

• 2:01Joe Rogan?

  I watched one episode of that, or the beginning of it. I didn't watch the whole... I heard it's fucking incredible.

• 2:07Speaker 03

  Yeah, the guy managed to, like, slash both his... Like, the way he committed suicide.

• 2:12Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:13Speaker 03

  It's very suspicious.

• 2:14Joe Rogan?

  Like, the Enron whistleblower that shot himself in the head twice?

• 2:17Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:18Joe Rogan?

  That guy's fun.

• 2:18Speaker 02

  Did he shoot himself in the head twice?

• 2:20Joe Rogan?

  Twice.

• 2:20Speaker 03

  Twice.

• 2:21Speaker 02

  Like Gary...

• 2:21Speaker 03

  Whoopsies.

• 2:22Speaker 02

  Really, like, the guy, like...

• 2:23Joe Rogan?

  Like Gary Webb? Gary Webb did it twice? No, maybe the Enron guy didn't. Maybe I'm just thinking of Gary Webb.

• 2:28Speaker 02

  Well, the...

• 2:29Joe Rogan?

  I might be in touch.

• 2:30Speaker 02

  Who's the one that Clintons, they always said that they killed?

• 2:33Joe Rogan?

  Uh, that one's Vince Foster. That's a fucking weird one, man. "The Strange Death of Vince Foster" is a great book.

• 2:40Speaker 03

  What's that?

• 2:41Joe Rogan?

  I read that book in, like, fuck, it was, like, the early 2000s.

• 2:44Speaker 02

  I think that guy was on Jimmy's show just recently, and I didn't know that.

• 2:46Joe Rogan?

  And he was saying, "No, the Clintons didn't do it.

• 2:50Speaker 02

  They took the blame for it, but no, it's some FBI-associated gang, trafficking gang, that did it. He probably didn't want to go along with the thing that they're all into, you know?"

• 2:58Joe Rogan?

  Well, perhaps. There was probably a bunch of factors, right? Because, for sure, while Clinton was governor of Arkansas, that's when all that Barry Seal stuff was going on in Mena, Arkansas, where they're dropping off coke.

• 3:09Speaker 02

  The Mena cartel.

• 3:10Joe Rogan?

  Right, so there's that for sure, but then there's also that scheme that they were doing, that real estate scandal.

• 3:18Speaker 04

  He wasn't shot twice, but there's weird stuff about it.

• 3:21Speaker 02

  Oh, wait, I'll tell you the most...

• 3:22Joe Rogan?

  So, Gary Webb was the one who got shot in the head twice, right?

• 3:25Speaker 02

  Vince Foster? There's the thing that blew my mind, because... And Jimmy has sat on this for a year, because he thought it sounded too far out. There's an interview, and I couldn't believe what I saw. The guy, when he was researching, there was a reporter that was like a supposed, like, you know, like, how I consider Ben Swan to be a good guy reporter, like, supposedly like that, but he wasn't. He was a piece of shit helping cover it up, according to this guy. And that guy's name, that reporter, was Chris Ruddy, who's now the guy who runs Newsmax.

• 3:52Joe Rogan?

  Wow.

• 3:53Speaker 02

  He's a billionaire now.

• 3:54Joe Rogan?

  Wow.

• 3:55Speaker 02

  That's what this guy said. Now, I can't tell you, I'm proven and whatever, but...

• 3:58Joe Rogan?

  How did a news reporter become a billionaire?

• 4:00Speaker 02

  Um, I'm sure legitimately.

• 4:05Speaker 02

  I'm sure there's nothing, you know, I don't want to be... I get pegged as one of these conspiracy guys, which I'm not.

• 4:10Joe Rogan?

  You're definitely not.

• 4:11Speaker 03

  Not at all.

• 4:12Joe Rogan?

  Not at all. So, it was the Whitewater real estate scandal that Vince Foster was also entangled in. So, there was, like, there was a lot going down with that, and then they found him dead, but there was more blood missing from his body than was at the scene of the crime. His body clearly had been moved. Also, the gun was in his hand.

• 4:29Speaker 02

  This guy wrote it. This motherfucker wrote the book? He's in on the cover-up? That guy was telling us, yo!

• 4:34Joe Rogan?

  That's amazing. That's amazing.

• 4:36Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 4:37Joe Rogan?

  That's amazing, because that book is real... So, now, I have to rethink everything that I read in that book.

• 4:43Speaker 02

  I tell you that interview, dude, you should watch, because that guy was really fascinating, and I had never even thought about Vince Foster for a long time.

• 4:49Joe Rogan?

  Well, it's like what they always say Trump is doing. He's doing 4D chess. Like, these guys are. Like, some people are.

• 4:55Speaker 02

  But just not in your favor, idiots.

• 4:56Joe Rogan?

  Right. Yeah.

• 4:57Speaker 02

  He's doing 4D chess, he tells you everything. Remember, he came on here, and he was, like, sounded pretty good, and then immediately rug pulled everyone, like, how long'd that take? The rug pull of Trump, would you say? How long for a war in Iran?

• 5:11Joe Rogan?

  The war in Iran was, what, a year?

• 5:13Speaker 03

  Yeah, he waited a year.

• 5:14Speaker 02

  Well, then we have the stupid war on narco-terror, which is always fake. Anybody talk about that, it's a fucking lie and phony. So, the Department of War... The guy's got all the brill cream in his fucking hair and the Templar tattoos.

• 5:27Speaker 03

  Hexeth.

• 5:27Speaker 02

  That's right.

• 5:28Speaker 03

  He's got his name.

• 5:30Joe Rogan?

  So, that... But you think the war on drugs is fake? Like, when they're blowing up those... What do you think is going on?

• 5:37Speaker 02

  Well, I think mostly they're probably marijuana guys not even going to America. The idea of Venezuelan cocaine is... I used to do a lot of coke, dude, and I heard every kind of cocaine, and never heard no Venezuelan coke.

• 5:48Speaker 03

  That's true. I've never heard of Venezuelan.

• 5:50Speaker 02

  This is pure Venezuelan, dude.

• 5:51Joe Rogan?

  Is it only Venezuela that they were blowing up those boats?

• 5:54Speaker 03

  Well, maybe they were moving the blow through Venezuela.

• 5:56Speaker 02

  They just murdered people, you already know this.

• 5:58Joe Rogan?

  Right, but I think they were probably trying to cripple their money chain before they invaded them. Oh, I was reading about what they did to them.

• 6:06Speaker 03

  What?

• 6:07Joe Rogan?

  Oh, my gosh.

• 6:08Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah, the new weapon.

• 6:09Joe Rogan?

  The weapon, the brain bleed.

• 6:10Speaker 03

  Oh, it's like swells your shit up.

• 6:12Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, they said it doesn't... It's non-lethal, in a sense, because it doesn't actually kill you.

• 6:16Speaker 02

  The Havana syndrome thing?

• 6:17Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, the stuff they use in Venezuela. But you're fucking done.

• 6:21Speaker 02

  I don't think they did use it.

• 6:22Joe Rogan?

  They boil your brain.

• 6:23Speaker 03

  They boil your ass.

• 6:24Speaker 02

  I don't think they did use... I think Maduro and his wife, they got their ass out of there, because the regime's still in place, by the way. I don't even know what the point would be of taking him out if you still have the same commie regime.

• 6:33Joe Rogan?

  Well, let's take this one step at a time. Pentagon allows DHS to test a heat ray weapon for possible use at the border.

• 6:40Speaker 03

  Wow.

• 6:40Joe Rogan?

  Okay. But what is that? Find out that thing that they...

• 6:43Speaker 04

  Discombobulator?

• 6:43Speaker 03

  The discombobulator.

• 6:45Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, is that what they're calling it? But they were talking about it today, like, what it actually does. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, at least on this article that someone sent me on Twitter.

• 6:53Speaker 03

  Doesn't it raise the temperature of your, like, cells by a little bit or something? It just, like, fries your...

• 6:59Speaker 02

  It's just microwaving, you know what you're saying?

• 7:01Speaker 03

  It's a microwave.

• 7:02Joe Rogan?

  It's just they were saying that it doesn't kill you, so it's non-lethal technically.

• 7:06Speaker 03

  Technically.

• 7:06Joe Rogan?

  But you're never the same.

• 7:07Speaker 03

  You're fucked. You have burns in your veins.

• 7:09Speaker 02

  Well, like, beanbag fucking shotguns are... They say less than lethal, I thought.

• 7:12Joe Rogan?

  The beanbags are not as scary as the rubber bullets. The rubber bullets take your eyes out. Those take your eyes out. There's people who've lost eyeballs to rubber bullets. They shoot you right in the face, those fucking things.

• 7:22Speaker 02

  Walrus baculum, everywhere.

• 7:23Speaker 03

  But the story that people report when Venezuela was invaded is insane.

• 7:28Joe Rogan?

  Insane.

• 7:28Speaker 03

  Like, these, like, super soldiers with these weird fucking headsets on, everyone's falling down, shitting their pants, their eyes are bleeding.

• 7:36Speaker 02

  I bet that's not true.

• 7:37Joe Rogan?

  I bet it is true. So, those super soldier helmets, that's the...

• 7:40Speaker 02

  No, I'm sure they have that. I'm not saying they don't.

• 7:42Speaker 04

  The heat rays, the story...

• 7:42Speaker 02

  I'm saying I don't think they used it there.

• 7:44Speaker 04

  Last 24 hours, I type in "non-lethal weapon."

• 7:47Joe Rogan?

  Right, right, right, but I'm saying what they used in Venezuela, they were discussing specifically. Like, what they used in Venezuela as a non-lethal weapon Venezuela.

• 8:02Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 8:03Joe Rogan?

  Trump administration... So, this is different, I think.

• 8:06Speaker 03

  A heat gun.

• 8:07Joe Rogan?

  Because if they're already testing it, they fucking did this already in the Venezuela stuff. Whatever it was, whoever was talking about it, I should probably have saved it. I'm just trying to stay offline. I'm just trying to keep...

• 8:20Speaker 03

  Are you really? How many hours of screen time do you think you're doing a day?

• 8:26Joe Rogan?

  I still watch stuff, but it's mostly YouTube videos.

• 8:30Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 8:30Joe Rogan?

  Most of my use on my phone, if I'm bored, is YouTube videos.

• 8:33Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 8:34Joe Rogan?

  And it's all pretty, either educational or interesting.

• 8:38Speaker 03

  If you had to guess, social media, how many...

• 8:40Joe Rogan?

  An hour. Hour a day.

• 8:41Speaker 03

  That's admirable.

• 8:43Joe Rogan?

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• 11:53Speaker 03

  What's the average screen time, Jamie? Do they have that?

• 11:56Joe Rogan?

  Probably five or six hours.

• 11:56Speaker 03

  That's insane.

• 11:57Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's probably five or six hours. And on good days, I have zero hours. Good days, I just stay completely off of it.

• 12:03Speaker 03

  Those are the best days.

• 12:03Joe Rogan?

  But today wasn't a good day. Today, I got up early, had to take my kid somewhere, and then I got up in the morning and did a little work, and then I was tired, and I took a shit, and that's when I started watching my phone. Then I watched my phone a little bit, and I'm like, alright, I gotta get to work.

• 12:17Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 12:18Joe Rogan?

  But it was like, after eating breakfast and sitting there with your phone on, you just feel like such a loser. You're like, I'm wasting time.

• 12:24Speaker 03

  Seven fucking hours a day!

• 12:27Speaker 02

  I'm usually editing.

• 12:28Joe Rogan?

  That's crazy.

• 12:29Speaker 02

  It would be fair to me, in my hours.

• 12:30Speaker 03

  Forty-nine hours a week.

• 12:32Joe Rogan?

  Now imagine kids with no self-control and teachers that aren't paying attention, so they have access to them at school.

• 12:38Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah.

• 12:39Speaker 02

  Dude, even if they are paying attention, it's not good. There's nothing good. It's all poison coming in.

• 12:44Joe Rogan?

  Most of it's poison. Most of it's poison. But you can curate it and make it not poison, if you're just smart with what you do. Like, I get something out of YouTube videos. I get something out of like, things that are interesting, like ancient history stuff and stuff on cosmology and astronomy. That stuff is interesting to me. I'm always gonna like, look at those.

• 13:03Speaker 02

  Right.

• 13:04Joe Rogan?

  I'm just fascinated.

• 13:05Speaker 03

  Do you guys remember the, sorry to cut you off, do you guys remember the YouTube Spider-Man videos? Do you remember those?

• 13:12Speaker 02

  Okay, Spider-Man Elsa. It's one of the reasons for the apocalypse, yes.

• 13:15Speaker 03

  Jamie, can you pull that up? Jamie, do you mind pulling up the Spider-Man Elsa videos? Which is, if you left your kid on YouTube long enough, before they changed it, it was like a slippery slope that led to increasingly fucked-up videos, and no one was sure where these videos were coming from.

• 13:31Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 13:32Speaker 03

  And that, it was, it was, and they all...

• 13:33Speaker 02

  Do you know what the final explanation was?

• 13:35Speaker 03

  What?

• 13:37Speaker 02

  So this is, this is the one that I would have explained it with, is, okay, so they basically use an algorithm. They know kids psychologically are fascinated with like, getting a shot, or pregnancy, or whatever.

• 13:47Joe Rogan?

  Or violence.

• 13:48Speaker 02

  Or violence, or bugs, and they mix it together into gibberish that's colorful, so the kids stay on it. And then, okay, so that's the, the main, and that's probably pretty reasonable, but I think that's testing something, too. I don't think it was just, oh, it was just these greedy people were doing a thing. There is no way something like that exists, that our, our government didn't learn everything they could about and how to weaponize, and also, it was probably them.

• 14:11Speaker 03

  It gave you, can you find an actual cartoon of it, Jamie? Because it gave you a weird feeling watching them. Like, it felt bad.

• 14:18Joe Rogan?

  There was a lot of the cartoons, they'd get drunk, and someone would smash their head, and there'd be blood all over the place.

• 14:23Speaker 02

  Or they'd get a shot, or Spider-Man's pregnant, and then after he gives birth, he's so relieved, like he took a shit.

• 14:28Joe Rogan?

  Spider-Man got pregnant?

• 14:29Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 14:29Speaker 02

  They're gibberish things, but that's to go right to the subconscious.

• 14:33Joe Rogan?

  Wasn't there some of those things where they showed that pedophiles were communicating with each other in the comments? They were like, using comments and code words.

• 14:42Speaker 02

  Most of the things for kids?

• 14:42Speaker 03

  They were just, so like...

• 14:44Speaker 02

  Roblox and every other thing like that?

• 14:45Speaker 03

  They'd have like, kid videos, like, you know, kids in a swimming pool, and then they would, in the comments would be the exact time where if you went to that frame, you could see a kid's ass. Like, that's what they were doing, is so that you'd have to waste your time.

• 14:58Speaker 02

  It's kind of suspicious that you know that.

• 14:59Speaker 03

  Watching the whole, watching the whole video.

• 15:01Speaker 02

  What's the timestamp? If that's a test, if you know, then you're going to jail.

• 15:04Speaker 03

  The timestamp? Generally, 322?

• 15:11Joe Rogan?

  Is there a number that's attached to like, pedophile stuff? Like, 420 is attached to weed?

• 15:15Speaker 03

  I don't know. Probably.

• 15:16Joe Rogan?

  They probably know, like, 187 is murder.

• 15:19Speaker 03

  Probably. It seems like they got a lot of code words, for sure.

• 15:22Joe Rogan?

  Oh, for sure.

• 15:22Speaker 03

  It's a whole thriving underground.

• 15:24Joe Rogan?

  Beef jerky.

• 15:25Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 15:26Joe Rogan?

  Right?

• 15:26Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 15:26Speaker 02

  You know, pizza also could be cocaine.

• 15:28Joe Rogan?

  They should, whoever the fuck wrote those emails that's alive, they should be brought into a room publicly. Like, what are you talking about?

• 15:35Speaker 03

  Yeah, why hasn't that happened?

• 15:36Speaker 02

  Well, they brought Howard Lardnick in, and he just said he didn't do anything.

• 15:38Joe Rogan?

  What is, what is beef jerky? Yeah, they didn't, that guy just, I met him once.

• 15:44Speaker 02

  Oh, he was really gross.

• 15:45Joe Rogan?

  His neighbors do him for like, 20 years.

• 15:47Speaker 02

  He had a massage table in his living room. My wife said, "This man's gross."

• 15:50Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, and we left, and we left. And then the emails come out. How many emails did he have with the guy?

• 15:56Speaker 02

  I don't know, bringing a ton of kids there to the public, person who's so creepy? He's bringing all, all their kids and some other kids?

• 16:01Joe Rogan?

  It's just a vacation.

• 16:02Speaker 02

  Ages, uh, yeah.

• 16:03Joe Rogan?

  Relax.

• 16:04Speaker 02

  No, when you go on vacation, hey, you're a guy with money.

• 16:06Speaker 03

  People love the beach.

• 16:07Speaker 02

  You bring extra kids when you're on vacation, right?

• 16:09Speaker 03

  Just the beach.

• 16:10Speaker 02

  To a creeped house, a guy that you said was really creepy?

• 16:12Joe Rogan?

  It's like spare tires. If someone dies...

• 16:14Speaker 03

  Yeah. Yeah.

• 16:16Joe Rogan?

  Extra kids.

• 16:16Speaker 03

  Yeah. It's really spooky, man, and it's really...

• 16:20Joe Rogan?

  Fucking bizarre.

• 16:20Speaker 03

  And, but now the new, you know what the new thing is, is like, stop talking about Epstein.

• 16:26Joe Rogan?

  Is that the new thing?

• 16:27Speaker 03

  Well, yeah, Fuentes has been saying that. Like, Fuentes has been saying this...

• 16:30Speaker 02

  Well, not just him. A lot of Chris Ruddy, uh, uh, Israel trip takers, like your Gavin McInneses and what have you.

• 16:36Joe Rogan?

  Okay, but devil's advocate.

• 16:38Speaker 03

  Please.

• 16:39Joe Rogan?

  Why are they doing that? If, do you think it's possibly that they think, hey, look, nothing's gonna change, this Epstein stuff is a giant distraction, there's real shit we should be paying attention to right now, like the midterms, like Iran, like whatever the fuck is happening in France, like, all the stuff that...

• 16:55Speaker 02

  Question. So you're saying the, the cannibal pedophile thing is less of a real thing than the midterms?

• 17:02Joe Rogan?

  No, what I'm saying is, the people that are online, that are, you know, air-quote influencers and people talking about the news...

• 17:08Speaker 02

  They're doing it on purpose, because they're paid, then the morons that go along with it say the thing you're saying.

• 17:13Joe Rogan?

  Perhaps. But this is why I'm saying devil's advocate. So like, if you're asking...

• 17:17Speaker 02

  Walrus baculum.

• 17:19Joe Rogan?

  That's a fake one, we have a real one.

• 17:20Speaker 02

  I feel like a fraud now, because I know it is.

• 17:23Joe Rogan?

  I think, is it on the, uh, the sea serpent table out there?

• 17:27Speaker 03

  Ah, the sea serpent tables, where you keep your baculums, of course.

• 17:31Joe Rogan?

  Oh, it's the dopest. That guy, the Dow, the guy that did our, the guy that did our table in our green room at the club?

• 17:37Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 17:37Joe Rogan?

  With the snake, that guy's amazing, man. He did, do we have a, oh dude, he's so good. He's so good, he's getting, made me an alligator, there's an alligator out there that's like, surfacing out of the water that I have in the poolroom, but on the table, there's a sea serpent one. And it's the fucking shit, man. It's got boats, and the sea serpents coming out of the water. We have a video of it, right? I think there's a video of it on my Instagram.

• 18:00Speaker 02

  People smoke cigars, dude, it's disgusting.

• 18:02Joe Rogan?

  Oh, hey, but, well, hold on, but before we get to that, please, pa- pause and find that, um, that table. Just while we're on the subject, girl, forget it, because I want to give this guy some credit. Because he's, uh, he's really fucking good, he's super talented.

• 18:15Speaker 03

  I love you got a sea serpent table with an authentic walrus dick on it.

• 18:19Joe Rogan?

  Well, the walrus dick was given to me by Steven Rinella. So this is, uh, this is, it is, it's the underscore Dow.

• 18:28Speaker 03

  Oh, that's cool.

• 18:29Speaker 02

  Yeah, that looks awesome, dude.

• 18:30Joe Rogan?

  So that's the table that's in our studio. That's the one that we had to saw in half to get upstairs. Because we, it was originally for this, it was originally for here, rather, for the studio.

• 18:40Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 18:40Joe Rogan?

  And then I said, "That belongs in the comedy club."

• 18:43Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 18:43Joe Rogan?

  That really belongs as the green room. Find the, the sea serpent one, though, Jamie. He made me a, I think that's it. Hold on, go right, go to the left. That's it, right there, click on that. That's it. Look at that fucking thing. Look, it's got a boat, and look at the sea serpent coming out of the water. This is where it gets crazy at the end. Nope, that's not ours.

• 19:02Speaker 04

  It's not exactly ours.

• 19:03Joe Rogan?

  That's not exactly ours. That's just another one. That's another one. That's pretty cool. I thought that was ours. Oh, that's an octopus one, that's different.

• 19:10Speaker 02

  That's awesome, dude, though.

• 19:11Joe Rogan?

  He's insane. Scott Dow. He's really fucking talented.

• 19:15Speaker 03

  Oh, look at the bottom, it's underneath it, too. That's fucking cool.

• 19:18Joe Rogan?

  Oh dude, he's so sick. And he does a lot of it, the beginning work, he does it all with chainsaws, man.

• 19:23Speaker 03

  Wow.

• 19:25Speaker 02

  Does he have like, smaller, like a number-two chainsaw that's a smaller?

• 19:28Joe Rogan?

  Well, he gets down to the nitty-gritty, and then he starts using complex tools, but, um, okay, it's before that.

• 19:36Speaker 03

  Swimming dog? Classic swimming dog table?

• 19:39Speaker 04

  We've had it for a few years now, so this is only like, six months ago.

• 19:42Joe Rogan?

  I know, but he reposts stuff. I follow him on Instagram. Um, he's super fucking talented though, man. He does a lot of these now.

• 19:51Speaker 03

  Wow.

• 19:51Joe Rogan?

  We blew him up on internet. He uh, he got real popular. He was real popular, right?

• 19:57Speaker 02

  I know a guy that makes fake walrus dick.

• 19:59Joe Rogan?

  It's on my Instagram.

• 20:02Speaker 03

  What is that made out of?

• 20:03Speaker 02

  Scott Bakula.

• 20:03Speaker 03

  Is that made out of bone?

• 20:04Speaker 02

  Scott Bakula.

• 20:05Joe Rogan?

  No, that's fake. That's fake. But the one we have outside is actually uh-

• 20:09Speaker 02

  But it's a sound design.

• 20:10Joe Rogan?

  Fossilized giant walrus dick.

• 20:14Speaker 03

  But what's the material? Sorry.

• 20:16Joe Rogan?

  Originally it was a bone.

• 20:17Speaker 03

  No, he, oh, that's-

• 20:19Speaker 02

  This is some kind of wood.

• 20:20Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 20:20Joe Rogan?

  It's fake.

• 20:22Speaker 02

  I mean, who cares? It's a fraud.

• 20:23Joe Rogan?

  Are you sure? Can I feel it? You sure it's fake?

• 20:25Speaker 02

  Go ahead. This is the tip. I'm actually holding the tip. You're holding the base. A lot of, it's just telling.

• 20:30Joe Rogan?

  Let me smell it.

• 20:31Speaker 03

  Oh, God.

• 20:31Speaker 02

  Does it smell right?

• 20:32Joe Rogan?

  No, it does smell fake.

• 20:34Speaker 02

  It tastes weird too, dude. I noticed that right away.

• 20:36Speaker 03

  It can smell a fake walrus dick from a mile away.

• 20:39Speaker 02

  It tasted weird the second I had it.

• 20:41Joe Rogan?

  How many, how many guys have fisted each other with one of these?

• 20:44Speaker 03

  A lot.

• 20:44Joe Rogan?

  For sure, more than one.

• 20:45Speaker 02

  Usually we sit on these and do it.

• 20:46Speaker 03

  Many.

• 20:47Joe Rogan?

  But if you have a baculum and I have a baculum, okay, then it's not as rare as we think. Cause we both have them and you didn't know I had one. Right?

• 20:55Speaker 03

  You've both had baculums.

• 20:57Speaker 02

  You got me good with that one.

• 20:57Joe Rogan?

  So how many guys have stuffed these up their ass? That's the question.

• 21:00Speaker 02

  Well, cause Texas, I was just thinking.

• 21:02Speaker 03

  Easily. Easily.

• 21:04Speaker 02

  You know, what's that joke you have about Texas has stronger, has stronger uh, dildo loss than gunless?

• 21:10Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 21:11Speaker 02

  That's the, I mean, it does. And so this is the kind of thing that I think is gonna, will lead to, if they can't get it in the shop, they're gonna get it from walrus baculums.

• 21:19Speaker 03

  That's right.

• 21:19Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, or they're gonna carve their own, you know?

• 21:21Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 21:22Joe Rogan?

  Good old fashioned ingenuity and know-how.

• 21:24Speaker 02

  This is, is this more of a Talarico or the other guy issue?

• 21:28Joe Rogan?

  Walrus baculum cane with 24 carat gold plated handle. Oh.

• 21:32Speaker 03

  Wow, is that the former owner?

• 21:34Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, look at him. I have this in my rectum.

• 21:39Joe Rogan?

  Starting bid only 10 bucks. That's it.

• 21:41Speaker 03

  That's a good deal.

• 21:42Joe Rogan?

  Oh, this is a long time ago. This is uh, 2023.

• 21:45Speaker 02

  Oh, from God's ear to my taint.

• 21:48Joe Rogan?

  And a photo of Wayne Hudson, original owner.

• 21:51Speaker 03

  The current bid is only 128 bucks.

• 21:53Speaker 02

  Take a picture of me and keep it with this whale dick uh, cane.

• 21:57Joe Rogan?

  You gotta put headphones on so we can all hear each other. Otherwise we're gonna talk over each other.

• 22:00Speaker 04

  I was looking for Elsa Gate. It said, I keep seeing videos from about a year ago where it's saying Elsa Gate 3.0 is starting up and a bunch of AI videos are being used to make it. And then I was trying to like cut in because I saw this pop up and I was like, what the fuck is this?

• 22:14Speaker 03

  Oh my God.

• 22:15Speaker 02

  Is candy?

• 22:16Speaker 04

  It's part of Elsa Gate.

• 22:17Speaker 03

  Is that AI? That's AI?

• 22:18Speaker 04

  I don't, I mean.

• 22:19Speaker 03

  I don't wanna see this, Jamie. I wanna see that little-

• 22:21Speaker 02

  It's not real though, is it? It's not.

• 22:23Speaker 03

  Oh my fucking, and so you leave your kids sitting in front of the TV, they're gonna end up seeing a little red canary get decapitated. That's why you can't do that.

• 22:32Speaker 02

  Then it turns into candy, so it's okay.

• 22:33Speaker 03

  Yeah, that's true.

• 22:35Joe Rogan?

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• 23:13Joe Rogan?

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• 23:38Speaker 03

  It's fucking weird. This-

• 23:40Joe Rogan?

  What are those videos? So what do you think is the, somebody had to put effort into these?

• 23:44Speaker 02

  Well, yeah, it's a, it's to speak to subconscious. It's like a twilight language.

• 23:48Joe Rogan?

  So what do you think it's doing to your kids? Like what, what is the goal of these videos?

• 23:52Speaker 03

  It's discombobulating them. It's giving them nightmares. It's like he's saying, it's getting deep into your psyche.

• 23:56Speaker 02

  Let's turn it into a fucking gender blob.

• 23:58Speaker 03

  Yeah. Yeah. I mean, this is the kind of shit the person who like, this is all the shooters probably what they're watching is kids. Go back to that, what the pregnant Spiderman.

• 24:08Speaker 02

  This is shit that in MKUltra in the 50s, you'd have to watch. You'd be forced to watch it all night.

• 24:12Speaker 04

  The sex in videos is like Vietnam.

• 24:14Speaker 02

  Ping pong balls on your eyes and have to watch that shit.

• 24:16Speaker 03

  And they just get pumped out. Like that's what's weird about it is they just appear, these channels appear, they get populated with these bizarre animations. They disappear, they reappear.

• 24:26Joe Rogan?

  Well, what's really weird is they started coming out before AI was even available. So somebody had to put some money into making those cartoons.

• 24:31Speaker 03

  That's right. Yeah.

• 24:32Speaker 02

  Yeah, shit.

• 24:33Speaker 03

  And also there's a lot of animation in, in Vietnam. A lot of people send their shit to get animated there, so.

• 24:39Speaker 02

  Hey, um, how about this? We already know the damage just growing up with Disney cartoons did to everyone. We already see the damage of that.

• 24:47Joe Rogan?

  What did it do?

• 24:48Speaker 02

  Well, Disney adults for one thing. Do you think that's a thing that should exist? You don't think that's a-

• 24:52Joe Rogan?

  They're happy. They're happy. If they weren't doing that, they'd be trading coins.

• 24:58Speaker 03

  Says the guy dressed like an elf.

• 25:00Speaker 04

  From a hot dog.

• 25:01Speaker 03

  Listen to fucking hot dog. It's bad.

• 25:04Joe Rogan?

  Listen to the techno cowboy.

• 25:06Speaker 03

  Listen to the CIA cowboy. Sorry, sorry.

• 25:11Joe Rogan?

  Jesus Christ, we're on the air.

• 25:15Joe Rogan?

  Fuck, dude.

• 25:17Speaker 02

  Okay, blows your cover every fucking-

• 25:18Joe Rogan?

  Your tail's gonna be texting you after this is over.

• 25:21Speaker 03

  He's texted me three times already during this show.

• 25:25Speaker 02

  I only hang out with the Soros boy.

• 25:26Joe Rogan?

  So what do you think happened to the Disney boys?

• 25:28Speaker 02

  The Disney boys?

• 25:29Joe Rogan?

  People that watch Disney?

• 25:31Speaker 02

  Wait.

• 25:31Speaker 03

  Disney boys. Disney boys. Sounds like the worst shit of all time. Whatever this is, horrible.

• 25:37Joe Rogan?

  We should make an AI show called The Disney Boys, just based on these guys that are the cool guys that are a part of the Disney gang. You know Disney gangs?

• 25:46Speaker 02

  The Disney boys.

• 25:47Joe Rogan?

  Like you have gangs where you have to do certain things to be in the gang?

• 25:50Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 25:51Joe Rogan?

  Like you have to get kicked off of a ride, you have to disrupt.

• 25:54Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 25:54Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. It's part of like some of the Disney gangs.

• 25:57Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 25:57Speaker 02

  Well, I used to be a Kia boy, but I, I just stepped it down. Cause I had ankle bracelets, so I stepped down to being a Disney boy.

• 26:03Speaker 03

  Disney boy.

• 26:04Speaker 02

  Those kind of hijinks.

• 26:05Joe Rogan?

  Kia, like the car company?

• 26:06Speaker 02

  The Kia boys, they steal Kias. They're easiest to steal cars. So there's gangs of Kia boys that just steal Kia.

• 26:12Joe Rogan?

  Oh, I have heard of that.

• 26:13Speaker 03

  I've never heard of that.

• 26:14Joe Rogan?

  Like apparently, Kias are easy to steal.

• 26:17Speaker 04

  Yeah, with like a USB key or something really easy. They could do it on 30 seconds.

• 26:21Speaker 03

  That's hilarious.

• 26:21Speaker 02

  Did you say a USB key?

• 26:23Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's like a Honda and a Kia. Like they could rip them off real fast.

• 26:26Joe Rogan?

  It's that easy?

• 26:27Speaker 04

  There was 15, like 12, 13 kids.

• 26:28Speaker 02

  Doesn't take a CIA guy to know that's not gonna be a good-

• 26:31Speaker 03

  Can't be that exciting to steal a Kia though.

• 26:33Joe Rogan?

  Well, when you're 15.

• 26:34Speaker 02

  It is when you post it online and you call yourselves the Kia boys.

• 26:36Joe Rogan?

  That's true. You don't even have a driver's license yet. All of a sudden you're driving.

• 26:40Speaker 02

  Was, he had a Kia.

• 26:42Joe Rogan?

  Really?

• 26:42Speaker 02

  Yeah. Well, I was like, oh, maybe he got assassinated. And then I heard Kia. I'm like, no, they were just taking his Kia.

• 26:47Speaker 03

  Wow, that's sad.

• 26:47Joe Rogan?

  Is that really what they were doing? They shot him because they were stealing his Kia?

• 26:51Speaker 02

  Soon as I heard he had a Kia, I'm like, that's a plausible reason.

• 26:53Speaker 03

  It's so depressing.

• 26:55Joe Rogan?

  Interesting how you just abandon all investigation because there's a Kia involved.

• 27:01Speaker 02

  I abandon all investigation. Yeah.

• 27:03Joe Rogan?

  It's like, it's solved.

• 27:04Speaker 02

  Well, I wasn't, look, I wasn't being paid to be on that case.

• 27:06Speaker 03

  Mystery solved. Mystery solved.

• 27:08Speaker 02

  Mystery boys don't work for free.

• 27:11Speaker 02

  Now Alex is a friend, but until I-

• 27:13Joe Rogan?

  I feel like Disney boys would be a really good show. Like the cool, the cool guys.

• 27:18Speaker 02

  It's kind of all their shows.

• 27:19Joe Rogan?

  Out of all of the different gangs at Disney, these are the coolest. They're the Disney boys. Nobody wants to get in on the Disney boys.

• 27:25Speaker 03

  Yeah. Yeah.

• 27:26Speaker 02

  They're into some sick shit, I'll tell you that.

• 27:28Joe Rogan?

  They're gatekeepers.

• 27:29Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 27:29Joe Rogan?

  So what do you think happened to people? What was the major damage from watching Disney?

• 27:35Speaker 02

  I mean, everything about it is designed to get into the subconscious and get that sense of magic that like forever, you know, to the point of when you're an adult. And then meanwhile, while you're getting poisoned with autism poisons, to make people that buy all the products, 80% of them never drive a car. If you ever watch Love on the Spectrum, which liberals love it by the way, you can see that you, they're just a lot of fun. You tell them who they, what they, what sex they are. You tell them who they like. They're weird about, they don't really reproduce until it's like socially okay. They, uh, you fuck up Star Wars 10 years in a row, making shitty Star Wars and they'll still love it and cry when the preview comes on.

• 28:13Speaker 02

  Those are perfect citizens. Okay? And then you got that nice Disney thing to fixate on. Cause you got people, you know, it's not like being a psychopath. They have a, they wanna connect, but they have a hard time connecting.

• 28:25Joe Rogan?

  So you think that's by, you think that's by design? Like they're making people autistic?

• 28:29Speaker 02

  The most compartmentalized people, so then, so, so they can't look at the big picture. Everybody's being trained to never look at the big picture. As if that's above their pay grade. Like you're not supposed to ever assemble- If you're not supposed to remember anything for more than a month and almost no one does.

• 28:44Joe Rogan?

  I feel like I agree and I disagree. I feel like you chain things together that aren't necessarily connected. So here's like autism. Okay. I think autism, a big factor is not just the various environmental toxins that people are ingesting, but also a lot of the fucking vaccines they're giving kids when they're young. For sure. I don't think they're doing that to make people autistic. I think they're doing that to profit off of these vaccines. Right? I think once they take advantage.

• 29:15Speaker 02

  You told me.

• 29:16Joe Rogan?

  Hope please while I'm talking. Once they take advantage of it and they understand that it's a thing, then they use it to their advantage. I think once they understand that it's a thing, like, oh, we're making more autistic people. There's definitely more autistic people. Now we can kind of weaponize it. Now we can kind of like mold them in a certain direction. I don't think they engineered autism. I don't think, I like to think at least that people aren't that evil.

• 29:38Speaker 02

  Why do you like to, will you tell me what China did? That thing you told me that they were trying to make their IQs higher? So they're putting something?

• 29:44Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. They, what they did is they gene edited kids and they said they did it to prevent HIV, which like, who's even worried about HIV today? Fucking zero people. The HIV might've been the greatest psy-op since COVID. As far as like what Fauci did, like what, the way he mind fucked people with COVID, he mind fucked people to a much greater extent with HIV.

• 30:06Speaker 02

  So you don't think people are evil though? And after you already know about that?

• 30:09Joe Rogan?

  Individuals, like Fauci, yes. Very capable.

• 30:12Speaker 02

  Just a few bad apples in the fucking DARPA shit, really?

• 30:15Joe Rogan?

  That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying I don't know if Disney like worked together with the government to purposely engineer autism so they can make better citizens.

• 30:24Speaker 02

  You have a link I'm not making that they engineered autism personally. It's part of programming. Everything's propaganda coming out of Hollywood since the start. It's deeply Pentagon embedded. Everybody knows that. Tommy Lee Jones's cousin was the liaison to all like, uh, who's, what's the one with Claire Danes? You ever see Claire Danes when she was on that?

• 30:41Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Colbert.

• 30:43Speaker 02

  And she's on, and she goes, yeah. And she's like a dingbat. It's like, and then we go on the CIA camp and Colbert, who I think is hip just because he did this. He had to like tamp it down immediately. So no, it's linked very intimately.

• 30:58Joe Rogan?

  Right. But you, you don't think that Disney or that these people are purposely working with the government?

• 31:04Speaker 02

  Of course. They're working with the government.

• 31:06Joe Rogan?

  More, they like, they want more people autistic. You don't think that?

• 31:09Speaker 02

  Not everybody gets to know every piece of the thing. I'm just telling you, what is the propaganda? So all the complaints now about woke, everything's woke, right? Don't you hate that?

• 31:17Joe Rogan?

  Right, right, right, right.

• 31:17Speaker 02

  So why is it like that?

• 31:18Joe Rogan?

  Do you think that they're on purpose making people autistic? Is that, are you saying that's part of it?

• 31:24Speaker 02

  Whatever, when they discovered this condition from poisons that they're allowed to put it, and that RFK, by the way, sold us out on, they're allowed to put these in the environment after knowing what the shit is. So yeah, I don't want to think people are evil, but they are clearly because you wouldn't phase that out. You would get rid of it immediately if you didn't like that it was doing, making the frogs gay. How Alex said inartfully but correctly, that shit mutilates genitals and sex genes.

• 31:52Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 31:52Speaker 02

  Okay. So once you know it does that and you're not doing shit, and in fact it becomes more, that means you want to do it. That's how I look at it.

• 32:00Joe Rogan?

  I, I think they just want the money. They want the money. They want the profit. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Not a, a major corporation has to increase their revenue every quarter.

• 32:08Speaker 02

  Dude, the corporations are free. They're state, we have state capitalism. They're all, all of them have government contracts.

• 32:13Speaker 03

  Can I give my theory on this?

• 32:15Speaker 02

  Yes, hot dog. Thank you.

• 32:15Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 32:18Speaker 03

  This is, this, you know, scymatics?

• 32:23Joe Rogan?

  Scymatics. I know the term. I forget what it means.

• 32:25Speaker 02

  How is sci?

• 32:26Speaker 03

  Scymatics. He's a great dude. He's like one of my favorite C.

• 32:29Joe Rogan?

  Is this like an offshoot of Dianetics?

• 32:30Speaker 03

  No, it's when you just, you put like, you put baby powder on a speaker and you play certain frequencies and it forms geometries.

• 32:39Joe Rogan?

  Oh, I have seen that. Like on a plate.

• 32:41Speaker 03

  Both of you are tuning into is a kind of cultural scymatics, that there exists in the world a frequency of greed or evil or selfishness that shows up in these specific ways throughout history over and over and over again. The exploitation of children, the sacrifice of children, the, uh, the, the exploitation of the energy of people to make yourself more powerful. This has been going on since all of recorded history.

• 33:09Speaker 02

  Sci said that?

• 33:10Speaker 03

  What? Yeah. He's really smart and you're, you bully him, but he's a nice dude.

• 33:13Speaker 02

  He's got bad skin. You know how I am.

• 33:15Joe Rogan?

  Well, let's, let's think about, just think about the idea of prescribing drugs for kids that are unnecessary, that will kill them, but also make companies a profit. That is child sacrifice.

• 33:27Speaker 03

  Absolutely.

• 33:28Joe Rogan?

  It's just a roundabout, sort of a weird filtered way where you don't think about it like that, but it's almost like what the Aztecs were doing.

• 33:36Speaker 03

  It's very, it's just, it's exactly.

• 33:38Joe Rogan?

  You're doing it for money. They're doing it for favor with the gods.

• 33:41Speaker 03

  So it's like the.

• 33:42Speaker 02

  That's the same thing.

• 33:43Speaker 03

  The baby powder that you're pouring on the speaker, it changes color, but it's the same exact shape. It's always child sacrifices.

• 33:52Joe Rogan?

  So it is child sacrifice. It's just that they dance around this maze. So you don't think of it as child sacrifice where they're injecting kids with COVID vaccines and they're all getting strokes.

• 34:01Speaker 03

  Yes, or it's slavery.

• 34:03Speaker 02

  It's not, it's not child sacrifice. I mean, that's a huge part of it.

• 34:06Joe Rogan?

  But it is child sacrifice.

• 34:07Speaker 03

  Child sacrifice, slavery, exploitation.

• 34:10Speaker 02

  We use every part of the buffalo here.

• 34:11Joe Rogan?

  Imagine if your company is profiting off of a drug that you know is not necessary to kids and you know for sure is killing kids and you're still doing it for profit.

• 34:21Speaker 03

  Here, let me explain.

• 34:22Joe Rogan?

  Child sacrifice.

• 34:22Speaker 02

  Imagine you work in the government and you let them do that and you have these bullshit hearings and nothing ever happens or changes and you have a little stupid play. Imagine that. Cause I've only been on a new show for now, what, three years and already I'm like bored of this circle and people still act like it's normal and they're not just doing a play. They still act like it's normal.

• 34:40Joe Rogan?

  Callie Means just left the White House today.

• 34:42Speaker 03

  Really?

• 34:43Speaker 02

  Is that the long neck?

• 34:46Joe Rogan?

  What the fuck does that mean? Callie Means was.

• 34:49Speaker 02

  From Trump's menagerie of freaks. Have you not seen them?

• 34:52Joe Rogan?

  Okay. Callie Means, who was working to try to get peptides and all these different things passed through, said it's, I can't do this. This is like, the deep state's real and there's all these industry insiders that are embedded in the government and they say they're going to do something and then they do everything they can to slow it down and keep it from happening. Peptides were supposed to be done two years ago. All this stuff was supposed to happen a long time ago and they're fucking hitting the brakes on everything because they want money.

• 35:15Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 35:16Joe Rogan?

  And again, same kind of thing, right? Making money. How many people are going to lose their health? Perhaps get very sick, maybe even die because they don't have access to whatever the fuck they need. And also you're putting stuff out there still that we have wanted banned for a long time. Right? Like, like fucking glyphosate. Like they need glyphosate. Like this, that was the craziest argument when RFK Junior was on here and he was explaining that to me, that they made an executive order to keep glyphosate because otherwise it would fuck up the food business.

• 35:48Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 35:49Joe Rogan?

  So imagine that the food business is reliant on poison. If it doesn't use poison, it can't stay open.

• 35:54Speaker 03

  Right.

• 35:55Joe Rogan?

  We can't operate without this poison.

• 35:56Speaker 02

  How would it fuck the business up?

• 35:57Joe Rogan?

  Cause it would cost so much money to change out their systems from glyphosate herbicide to, there's all these different ways they could do it. They use lasers where they fucking scan over the things and they zap the plants that aren't the right ones. And then if they wanted to do everything like regenerative farming, that takes fucking a decade.

• 36:16Speaker 03

  Right.

• 36:16Joe Rogan?

  You have to change the soil. You have to do so much. You have to compost. You have to like re-energize the bio material that's in the soil and turn it to enriched, like you have to fertilize it. You have to have like dead animals and shit and it has to like become a, a living thing again. Cause right now it is, it's a fucking toxic dust layer that just sits there and keeps anything from, and then they pour, pour a bunch of fucking minerals and nitrogen and all the different things all over just so the stuff can grow.

• 36:45Speaker 03

  Right.

• 36:45Joe Rogan?

  And it's like to change that and make it so that you don't need industrial fertilizers. You don't need herbicides. You don't, it'll take fucking forever and it costs so much money because we've been, we've been tricked by these fucking crooks. These people that have decided to make the most amount of money and poison people. Probably initially they probably didn't realize what they were doing, but once they realized they were poisoning people, they just kept doing it.

• 37:08Speaker 03

  Yeah, but you know, in some way.

• 37:09Speaker 02

  They've done it on purpose many times. Remember that. Don't you remember what they did them kids in Kansas City? What they did to people in San Francisco? They drizzled that Cobalt shit on, uh, black kids in, uh, Kansas City.

• 37:20Speaker 03

  What Cobalt shit?

• 37:21Speaker 02

  Yeah. I can't remember what Cobalt 13 or something?

• 37:24Joe Rogan?

  Was this the one from the fans? No, that was a different thing.

• 37:26Speaker 02

  This is the army. They went to a building next to another, another building. Okay. And then they say, why aren't you using like a plane even? They were just spraying it into these kids.

• 37:33Joe Rogan?

  That's right, right. That, I don't remember what it was though. You said it's Cobalt?

• 37:37Speaker 02

  To see what I would do.

• 37:39Joe Rogan?

  They wanted to see how much they could affect people in case they wanted to use like a bioweapon.

• 37:44Speaker 02

  Well, I'm sure it's reformed since there's no justice ever for these people. I'm sure it's gotten better.

• 37:47Joe Rogan?

  Well, they did with MKUltra. That stopped.

• 37:50Speaker 03

  It stopped. They don't do it anymore.

• 37:53Speaker 02

  The back of the, I stand corrected.

• 37:55Joe Rogan?

  San Francisco, they were trying to see if they could spread a disease. So they spread like a cold, right? Didn't they? Like they spread something like the flu.

• 38:03Speaker 03

  They put it in the subways.

• 38:04Joe Rogan?

  Is that what they did?

• 38:05Speaker 03

  I heard they fumigated the subways with disease.

• 38:07Joe Rogan?

  They did something where they sprayed it in the air too, because the way the wind was drifting, they wanted to see how many people would infect.

• 38:13Speaker 03

  Right. And so at that point, I think.

• 38:15Joe Rogan?

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• 39:50Speaker 03

  Metzger's making a fair point. That's evil.

• 39:53Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 39:54Speaker 03

  That's not, that's, yeah, I love.

• 39:56Joe Rogan?

  Fair point with the Disney Boys.

• 39:57Speaker 03

  With the Disney Boys. Hot dog and CIA!

• 40:03Speaker 04

  And the elf.

• 40:04Speaker 02

  Company man.

• 40:05Speaker 03

  CIA and the elf.

• 40:08Speaker 03

  I mean, that's evil. I don't think it, and maybe you could argue just greed is evil. Greed is vampirism. Maybe you could, that's the argument you make.

• 40:15Joe Rogan?

  Greed at a certain level.

• 40:17Speaker 03

  But do vampires think they're evil?

• 40:19Speaker 02

  What's above that, though? That's, I'm a royal. I'm not saying it literally, the royals, but also them, but that feeling of, I want eugenics for me and I want dysgenics for you. I'm gonna be a living god by pushing you down to the category of mineral, thereby making me, you know, a special transhuman fucking nightmare from the Dune series.

• 40:40Joe Rogan?

  What is this, Jamie?

• 40:41Speaker 03

  It was a great series. I don't think they're all nightmares.

• 40:43Speaker 02

  Oh, that's calcium sulfide.

• 40:45Speaker 04

  Hold on, let me get to the top to show you.

• 40:47Joe Rogan?

  What?

• 40:48Speaker 04

  This is the historical background of the US biological warfare program, and it gets into...

• 40:55Joe Rogan?

  1941 they started, holy shit.

• 40:58Speaker 04

  Yeah, here's a total of 160 tests using various simulants.

• 41:01Speaker 03

  Fine.

• 41:02Speaker 04

  Maybe stimulants, but...

• 41:03Joe Rogan?

  I don't know. Simulants. Simulating. They're simulating a disease.

• 41:07Speaker 03

  Which was stimulants?

• 41:08Joe Rogan?

  We're conducted at 66 locations, both military and civilian targets in the United States. Holy shit. Including Alaska and Hawaii. So they did 160 different tests where they tried to infect people.

• 41:17Speaker 03

  They don't do it anymore, though.

• 41:18Joe Rogan?

  Or at least pretend to infect people.

• 41:19Speaker 03

  They stopped.

• 41:20Joe Rogan?

  Specific dates, locations, and substances used are in an Army report. 1977, conduct of BW testing, specialized sampling, and analysis techniques were used to determine the various parameters of the test requirements and the downwind travel distances.

• 41:38Speaker 03

  Jesus Christ.

• 41:39Joe Rogan?

  Bro.

• 41:39Speaker 03

  Look, see the subways right there.

• 41:41Joe Rogan?

  Mm-hmm.

• 41:42Speaker 03

  Backsilly.

• 41:42Joe Rogan?

  New York and San Francisco. They got, they got a lot better, dude.

• 41:47Speaker 02

  Yeah, I don't know why people think I'm saying anything far out ever, because this is Nazi-level shit here. Well, we brought all those Nazis, so we're gonna do some Nazi stuff.

• 41:54Joe Rogan?

  Right. That's true. They probably learned a lot.

• 41:57Speaker 02

  I just found this out. The OSS, when they, you know, merged with the remaining Nazis of the SS to form the CIA, it wasn't, yeah, that's how they got that, but it was the world's...

• 42:07Speaker 03

  Let him roll, baby! You gotta let him rip!

• 42:10Speaker 02

  What?

• 42:10Speaker 03

  It's good shit, baby. Just let him rip.

• 42:12Speaker 02

  You had all them CIA guys, none of them know this.

• 42:14Joe Rogan?

  Hold on, hold on. Say it again, say it again.

• 42:16Speaker 02

  You had all them CIA guys on here, none of them know this?

• 42:19Joe Rogan?

  I don't know.

• 42:19Speaker 03

  He can listen to me too. And I'm like, no, I don't know it. No one knows this. Nobody knows this.

• 42:25Joe Rogan?

  He looms over you in the green bill, "You don't know?"

• 42:26Speaker 03

  He's got his maculum ready to...

• 42:28Speaker 02

  My hat, this hat was not good with the headphones, that's really...

• 42:31Joe Rogan?

  So, explain it again. The OSS, what happened with the Nazis?

• 42:34Speaker 02

  After the war, they merged with the SS, you know, Otto Scesny, I believe, that carried on Gladio. That's the strategy of tension, where you fund like both sides of the thing, so you've heard this.

• 42:46Speaker 03

  The strategy of tension.

• 42:48Speaker 02

  Southern Poverty Law Center, you texted me about when they were doing, they were paying for the Charlottesville.

• 42:52Joe Rogan?

  Yes, yeah, yeah.

• 42:53Speaker 02

  That's the strategy of tension. That goes back to Otto Scesny. That goes back to Otto Scesny after the war. That's a Nazi.

• 42:59Joe Rogan?

  So that, you sure that that wasn't like standard techniques that people just use? Like Nero burned Rome, right? They've always done things where they've caused conflict.

• 43:08Speaker 02

  I mean, the term, yes, but you are correct. But the strategy of tension, that term comes originally from Otto Scesny's group, the Gladio.

• 43:15Joe Rogan?

  Okay, and so they...

• 43:16Speaker 02

  Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think I am.

• 43:17Joe Rogan?

  Well, we'll find out. We'll put that in AI perplexity, our sponsor.

• 43:21Speaker 02

  We're in perplexity.

• 43:22Joe Rogan?

  See if perplexity knows how the CIA was formed.

• 43:24Speaker 04

  Well, I did ask, and it's very strange what it says here. The last paragraph doesn't really matter.

• 43:29Joe Rogan?

  The OSS merged with the SS is inaccurate. The documented history is that American intelligence agencies used former Nazi personnel and networks for Cold War intelligence, not that the two wartime organizations merged. Yet, if you have an organization and you have people in that organization and they join your organization, you fucking merged.

• 43:49Speaker 03

  What's the difference? That's a merger. That's a merger.

• 43:51Speaker 02

  The organization above both of them that the CIA is under, and probably still under, I believe is called the World Commerce Commission. Some shit like that.

• 43:59Speaker 03

  What? Never heard of it.

• 44:00Speaker 02

  That's who merged them together that was in charge of that, and then making it. Um, uh, if you watch my boy Sean Patrick Haslett's show, Through a Glass Darkly, great, if you like.

• 44:09Joe Rogan?

  Say it slowly so people can hear your words.

• 44:12Speaker 02

  Sean Patrick Haslett.

• 44:14Joe Rogan?

  What is the, the other, the term of the show? The name of the show?

• 44:17Speaker 02

  Through a glass darkly.

• 44:18Joe Rogan?

  Okay, through a glass dark.

• 44:20Speaker 02

  Duncan's been on it.

• 44:21Speaker 03

  What?

• 44:21Speaker 02

  You've been on it.

• 44:23Speaker 03

  I've been on that show?

• 44:24Speaker 02

  Holy shit. Am I being gassed? Is that what this is?

• 44:29Speaker 03

  Hey, man, I'm just a hot dog. I don't know.

• 44:32Speaker 02

  From Sean from Turning Point Sam Tripoli, the think tank.

• 44:36Joe Rogan?

  Turning Point Sam Tripoli?

• 44:37Speaker 02

  Yeah, my think tank.

• 44:38Speaker 03

  Oh, Through a Glass Darkly, it's good. I love that show. I remember, sorry, Sean, I remember now. It was a zoo.

• 44:43Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, my think tank, like, I'm know what the fuck...

• 44:45Speaker 03

  He's got a think tank.

• 44:46Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 44:46Joe Rogan?

  When did you start that?

• 44:47Speaker 02

  Just a group tag, it's not really. I probably am over selling it.

• 44:51Speaker 03

  No, no, you're not over selling it, because it's got like doctors and professors in it.

• 44:54Joe Rogan?

  So let's call our, our text thread the think tank, too.

• 44:57Speaker 03

  Yeah, we should.

• 44:58Speaker 02

  It's already kind of being used on Turning Point Sam.

• 45:01Speaker 03

  You can have two think tanks.

• 45:02Joe Rogan?

  Can you have two think tanks?

• 45:04Speaker 03

  You can have two think tanks.

• 45:05Joe Rogan?

  Like, a lot of guys are involved in multiple startups.

• 45:07Speaker 02

  Do Disney Boys?

• 45:08Joe Rogan?

  Oh my God, dude, are you watching this? Have you watched the dropout, the Elizabeth Holmes Hulu series?

• 45:14Speaker 02

  No, how is it?

• 45:15Joe Rogan?

  It's so good. It's so good. I get, I mean, I'm wondering, is it so good because I got really engrossed in the story when I was listening to the dropout podcast? But I've been watching the show and, you know, just because I haven't seen the movie yet, wanna watch the show and then see the movie. But the fucking shit, that chick, Amanda, what's her name? Amanda Seyfried? Holy shit, is she good, dude.

• 45:38Speaker 02

  Oh, she plays her?

• 45:39Joe Rogan?

  She's so good, dude. You see, she slowly starts changing her voice. She's, she acts completely autistic through the entire show. She's fucking really good.

• 45:48Speaker 03

  Wow.

• 45:49Joe Rogan?

  That movie, that show is crazy. I can't believe I didn't even hear anybody recommend it before.

• 45:55Speaker 02

  Look at that.

• 45:57Joe Rogan?

  Uh, yeah, big difference, boys.

• 45:59Speaker 03

  Hooray for Hollywood, baby.

• 46:00Speaker 02

  I'm kind of for the improvements to the, you know...

• 46:03Joe Rogan?

  They should have made her a black man. It would have been just as accurate.

• 46:06Speaker 02

  Dude, I'm way into that idea.

• 46:08Speaker 03

  Are you kidding? I would have been entranced by Elizabeth Holmes. I would have been sucking her feet.

• 46:12Joe Rogan?

  Not one that looked like that.

• 46:13Speaker 03

  The real, the real one would have taken me in a second, like that, those eyes, those deep blue eyes. You saw it in the Nathan Fielder clip, when she's looking at him. She draws you in with those eyes, and you know what you're not experiencing? People like that have an aura. They have a, a real vibe that pulls you in. So you're just, when you're just looking at that like a 2D picture, it's nothing compared to when you're in their presence, and no matter...

• 46:39Joe Rogan?

  So you think that if you were, if you said, "Hey, no cameras, no films, can I just come over your house and ask you questions about what happened?"

• 46:48Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 46:48Joe Rogan?

  You think that she would just get you?

• 46:50Speaker 03

  Very slowly. She would suck you in.

• 46:53Joe Rogan?

  Suck you into her web.

• 46:54Speaker 03

  Think of how much money she grifted. Think of like what she did. Like, if we take the ethics and morality out of it, it's spectacular. Like, when you look at like the ability to manipulate people at the level that she did, that's more than, you just can't know until you're around someone like... I mean, you've been around, you, you have people like that on your podcast. You can feel their vibe.

• 47:15Joe Rogan?

  Not at that level. That's like crazy.

• 47:17Speaker 02

  The charm of J.D. Vance coming at you like that? You couldn't feel it?

• 47:20Joe Rogan?

  Bah!

• 47:21Speaker 03

  Oh, yes. Trump, Trump, I'm sure radiates some kind of weird aura. Like, you know, anytime I've been around people like that, you know, they, they get you. They, there's, who knows what it is? Mirror neurons? Who knows what it is? But these are warlocks. These are sorcerers.

• 47:36Joe Rogan?

  There's a little bit of hypnosis involved in being someone who has a fake startup, right?

• 47:40Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 47:41Joe Rogan?

  You're doing something. You're pitching this thought, and they all think they're gonna cash in. But there was also the culture of startups in, in Silicon Valley, where there was a lot of bullshit startups, and a lot of, like, that was one of our arguments, was that everybody was doing this. Everybody was kind of bullshitting. Everybody was like making these...

• 47:58Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 47:58Joe Rogan?

  My problem with the show is it's really good, and there's facts in it, for sure. Where they definitely faked these things, they did this, they got people to invest under false pretenses. I don't like when there's dialogue between people, and I know somebody just made it up. It takes me right out of it.

• 48:15Speaker 02

  I, me too, dude.

• 48:17Joe Rogan?

  When they're like, they're alone, like...

• 48:18Speaker 02

  I hate biopics.

• 48:19Joe Rogan?

  Sonny Balwani and her alone, and like they're acting weird together. I'm like, you don't know if that's real.

• 48:24Speaker 03

  Right.

• 48:25Joe Rogan?

  Like, you're making me think about them a very specific way that you can't, they didn't participate, they didn't help you.

• 48:31Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 48:32Joe Rogan?

  They didn't tell you, "I said this," and then she said that. So you're just making things up, and you're, you're pretending, you're mix, it's like gonzo journalism. You're mixing fake, like, that's what Hunter used to do. Make, mixing fiction.

• 48:44Speaker 02

  Propagandize me a certain way.

• 48:45Joe Rogan?

  Yes, yeah. So part of me is like, I don't think you should be able to do that.

• 48:49Speaker 02

  But that's a good warlock trick.

• 48:51Joe Rogan?

  By the people who made the show.

• 48:53Speaker 02

  I mean, no gonzo journalism, like, "Yeah, it's like reporting, but it's not. I'm lying."

• 48:57Joe Rogan?

  Did you ever see the thing that he did about the election? Well, did you ever see the thing that he did about the election, when he did fear and loathing on the campaign trail?

• 49:05Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah, yeah.

• 49:05Joe Rogan?

  So he made Ed Muskie go crazy. He made him go crazy, because he was saying that he was using a Brazilian witch doctor, and he was, he was addicted to ibogaine. Do you know this whole story?

• 49:15Speaker 02

  Yeah, no, I know. I find it to be very strange.

• 49:18Joe Rogan?

  He caused the guy to have a nervous breakdown, and so the guy was on the campaign trail, and he's, "I am not a drug addict." And he would like literally go crazy, and then so Hunter, find the video of Hunter on the Dick Cavett Show. He's admitting on the Dick Cavett Show that he made this whole thing up, and he caused this guy's campaign to sink.

• 49:38Speaker 03

  Wow.

• 49:38Joe Rogan?

  And affected the entire election.

• 49:41Speaker 03

  You know, this is so funny, because I was just watching this thing on Aleister Crowley, and in his confessions, he was saying that he made the Nazi Germany fall apart. Like, he infected Germany with these insane ideas.

• 49:55Speaker 02

  You're never gonna forgive him for that, are you?

• 49:59Speaker 02

  I mean, let it go, man. Let it go.

• 50:02Speaker 02

  You and your boy Theo, love it, man.

• 50:04Joe Rogan?

  Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh.

• 50:09Speaker 06

  I couldn't believe people

• 50:10Joe Rogan?

  Look at this.

• 50:11Speaker 06

  Musk was getting evil again. I never said he was. I said there was a rumor in Milwaukee that he was, which was true. And I started the rumor in Milwaukee.

• 50:18Speaker 02

  You finally said what you mean.

• 50:19Joe Rogan?

  So that was he saying, I said, there was a rumor in Milwaukee. It's true because I started the rumor in Milwaukee.

• 50:26Speaker 03

  Exactly.

• 50:26Joe Rogan?

  So he started this rumor. He wrote about it.

• 50:29Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 50:30Joe Rogan?

  And then he caused the guy to go crazy.

• 50:32Speaker 03

  Yeah. Magic. Pure and simple.

• 50:35Joe Rogan?

  Well, voodoo is real.

• 50:36Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 50:36Joe Rogan?

  Right? If you believe in voodoo, if you believe, if I tell you I'm putting a spell on you and you believe it.

• 50:40Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 50:41Joe Rogan?

  Your life's gonna fall apart.

• 50:42Speaker 02

  Okay. Well, like you said, you don't want to believe people are evil. That's the spell. Vodun, Gnostic vodun is the basis of a lot of the mass programming for Americans. I didn't know it was pronounced vodun, by the way. That sounds pronounced. And, uh, but they use a lot of that. And, uh, uh, the main thing, though, because you had, uh, Grush on here talking about the four NHIs, right?

• 51:04Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 51:05Speaker 02

  The four NHI. That sounds like a, um,

• 51:08Joe Rogan?

  Like a band.

• 51:08Speaker 02

  Like Simon Cowell's, like those guys that were just singers, like El Devo, like the four NHI.

• 51:14Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 51:14Speaker 02

  And they do opera songs. There are, what was it? The bug one and the lizard one and the Nordics.

• 51:19Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 51:20Speaker 02

  Germans and the, uh, whatever, the other guy.

• 51:22Joe Rogan?

  Well, the Nordics look like, like Greek gods.

• 51:24Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 51:25Joe Rogan?

  Or like, yeah.

• 51:26Speaker 02

  So that's when he, okay, that part stuck out when he was talking about the one looking kind of blue and Ridley Scott Prometheus-ish.

• 51:33Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 51:34Speaker 02

  Um, so they, it's eugenics and dysgenics. And, um, a big thing that I just learned of, and it's from South Africa, it's called Tokolosh. Yeah, on Mystery Boys, uh, oh, this one, it already.

• 51:45Speaker 03

  This is fucked up.

• 51:46Speaker 02

  So you know what Tokolosh is?

• 51:47Speaker 03

  No.

• 51:49Speaker 02

  Uh, Credo Mutoa, who's the shaman that David Icke likes from South Africa that taught him about the lizards? You know that guy?

• 51:56Speaker 03

  No.

• 51:56Speaker 02

  You've never had either Credo, no, I'm joking.

• 51:58Speaker 03

  Say, Doctor Lizards?

• 52:00Speaker 02

  You don't know Doctor Lizards? Anyway, he, it's in his book, but, uh, they would have practice, uh, which like the fucked up ones where they take like a pygmy or, uh, which I guess is a small person. I, I'm not, not clear, but it's a human pygmy, right? It just means they're small, small in the jungle or something.

• 52:17Joe Rogan?

  Okay.

• 52:17Speaker 02

  They take them or a disa, like someone who's got a disability or a mutate, you know, any kind of a malformed person.

• 52:24Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 52:24Speaker 02

  Are these, they would grab these people and raise them like, they put like bent, uh, wood to like make their limbs grow weird to turn them into like monster, goblin. And then, and then, uh, just, it's just torturing a human and mutilating them until they're crazy and think they're another entity, like a supernatural entity called Tokolosh. The CIA studied that, okay? And it brought that shit here. And so the four NHI, I say, are, this is why the aliens need sperm and ovum because they're making this stuff out of people. It's all, they've been doing this shit under the Energy Commission, probably since 48. They've been, so remember the.

• 53:03Joe Rogan?

  They're making this shit out of people? So you're saying that they're these non-human intelligences?

• 53:08Speaker 02

  They're human. They made, they mixed them with shit. Yes.

• 53:10Joe Rogan?

  And people made them.

• 53:10Speaker 02

  Now they could do it with Krispy. They don't have to tie your spine to a bent wood anymore and beat you. They can do it with blue light, Spider-Man Elsa, and they can fucking do it. It's like you're being sculpted by your phone into the thing they want you to be.

• 53:23Speaker 03

  The grays are just some warped mutant hybrid person.

• 53:27Speaker 02

  That's why they look like fetuses, I bet. And that's why they gotta steal your.

• 53:30Joe Rogan?

  Wait a minute. They've been doing, wait a minute. They've been seeing grays since the 50s. They, you think they've been doing it back then?

• 53:36Speaker 02

  Here's what I'm getting to. So do you remember Diana Pasulka or not, uh, not, not Diana Pasulka, um, uh, the one that wrote the DARPA book? I'm blanking on it. Annie Jacobson? And remember at the time, I thought this story was so stupid. The DARPA said it was deformed kids that Russia sent over to like freak us out.

• 53:53Joe Rogan?

  That was the Roswell thing.

• 53:55Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 53:56Speaker 02

  So now I understand that story a lot better because Tokolosh in South Africa, they're rare, but you can still find those farms in the mountains where they're just raising, you know, like, um, troglodyte people or something that would never see the light. They, they torture, tell them they're like a, and they, they can climb and people die of fright seeing these things.

• 54:14Joe Rogan?

  So wait, you think that all these alien abduction experiences, it's all human created fake?

• 54:22Speaker 02

  Well, I didn't say fake. I said, they made, they speciated us into four other things. And the reason is that the Nordics, the Nordics are the eugenics and that's the, that's, you could tell us from back then because they're blonde and blue blood and blue eyed, you know, the ideal of the 50. Then you got your lizard people, which is straight out of fucking Star Trek. And by the way, that guy was a creep, Gene Roddenberry, just, you know. He's a fucking creep.

• 54:47Speaker 03

  Jesus Christ.

• 54:49Speaker 02

  Okay. But the lizard, lizards and men don't come from space. They come from here. And so that you can, and that's why the, the sightings in other countries, because like, okay, what's going on? Why would people see different things? They all need your sperm and eggs, though. That always is a thing.

• 55:03Speaker 03

  Let me back him up here.

• 55:04Speaker 02

  Because the local movie maker people are the ones designering these, they've had this Krispy shit for a long time. You understand that, right?

• 55:10Speaker 03

  What the fuck? Dude, Joe, look it up. Jamie, maybe you could pull this up.

• 55:14Speaker 02

  And that's where the Disney comes in.

• 55:16Joe Rogan?

  Time, Kurt, come on.

• 55:17Speaker 03

  They, they just mixed a mouse brain with a human brain. Did you hear about this?

• 55:22Speaker 02

  Yes, I told you in confidence and now, okay.

• 55:24Speaker 03

  I'm sorry. I forgot. I forgot.

• 55:26Speaker 02

  It's getting heated here.

• 55:27Speaker 03

  I'm sorry. But, but you know, what he's saying, even though it does sound absolutely insane, but honestly, it doesn't sound as insane, thank you.

• 55:33Speaker 02

  Hold that while you talk.

• 55:34Speaker 03

  It doesn't, it doesn't sound as insane as beings from other dimensions come here. It's equally insane. But when you look at what we're doing now, creating human mouse brain hybrids with brain organels harvested from stem cells. We are doing that. And you look at what we just looked at with the subway bioweapon tests. That was in the 40s. So it, would it surprise you that secret branches of every government were doing eugenics studies, were abducting children and warping them to see if we could make super soldiers?

• 56:10Speaker 02

  Or how about farming them?

• 56:11Speaker 03

  I mean, there's clearly a market pressure for that if you're trying to have a military advantage. And when it comes to having a military advantage, morality goes out the window, man.

• 56:21Joe Rogan?

  Right. But do you think they would create little gray aliens with giant heads and big black eyes?

• 56:26Speaker 02

  This goes back to Annie Jacobson thing because the space race, I'll tell you why. I'll tell you why. I'll tell you why. I'll tell you why. The space race with Soviets.

• 56:34Joe Rogan?

  Okay. Right.

• 56:36Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 56:37Joe Rogan?

  This was before the space race, bro.

• 56:38Speaker 02

  What are you doing? Oh, God. Don't touch me with the tip. It's cold.

• 56:42Speaker 04

  Before you do, this is a, I did find something about the Tokolosh farm. This is someone quoting it, but nothing I found said it was real, but this is what it says.

• 56:49Joe Rogan?

  Okay. So this is, this is talk of a Tokolosh farm somewhere in the country where deformed children are raised as assassins.

• 56:54Speaker 03

  Holy shit.

• 56:55Joe Rogan?

  Trained with, with mutie knowledge. I don't know what that means. And all the terrifying things whispered about in secret. I haven't seen it, but it's something we're told to be aware of.

• 57:06Speaker 03

  It's the X-Men.

• 57:07Speaker 02

  You know, it means like mind your business in Bon Tua or some shit, or it's like, this is evil. Don't ask about it. They won't make carvings of it. So think how, how top classified of knowledge of it is, they won't make a carving of it since going way back.

• 57:18Speaker 03

  Assassins.

• 57:19Speaker 02

  They don't want to disclose it because you can't. It's terrible.

• 57:21Joe Rogan?

  Says there's three grades of Tokolosh. The most common one, people known is like a little hairy man. Often it's not mystical at all. It can be trained animals, even baboons used by certain people to carry out menial tasks. It's more psychological warfare. When you see something that fits the idea of a Tokolosh, fear grips you and that fear becomes its own weapon.

• 57:43Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm. So that's, that's mind war right there. That's what you call it. Nice mind war.

• 57:48Joe Rogan?

  In South Africa or?

• 57:50Speaker 02

  Well, we, they studied everything. Remember, uh, scopolamine, zombies are undead. Zombies are people that have been tricked in brain. You know, I took your heart. Now this rock is your heart.

• 58:00Joe Rogan?

  Hmm.

• 58:01Speaker 02

  And don't lose this ring on your.

• 58:02Speaker 04

  For context, that was an explanation from the resident healer, Sangoma Fizial Pretorius.

• 58:09Joe Rogan?

  Heavenly Healings Resident Healer. I love the name of the company.

• 58:13Speaker 03

  Heavenly Healing.

• 58:14Joe Rogan?

  Place like where you go to like get a tantric massage.

• 58:17Speaker 04

  That's him talking about it.

• 58:18Joe Rogan?

  That's him? I don't trust people with nose rings. Shut the fuck up.

• 58:21Speaker 03

  What about the pentagram necklace?

• 58:22Joe Rogan?

  Any man, any man with a nose ring?

• 58:25Speaker 03

  You don't trust him?

• 58:25Joe Rogan?

  I trust chicks with nose rings.

• 58:27Speaker 02

  I don't trust him as a dermatologist either. I'll tell you that.

• 58:29Speaker 03

  Here he goes. Attacking people with skin conditions.

• 58:32Joe Rogan?

  You should go to a laser guy, get his face resurfaced.

• 58:35Speaker 02

  That's just helpful.

• 58:36Joe Rogan?

  I think so.

• 58:37Speaker 02

  I don't think that's hateful at all.

• 58:38Joe Rogan?

  I'm not into guys with nose rings.

• 58:39Speaker 02

  Jamie, I just said you.

• 58:41Joe Rogan?

  Girls can look hot with nose rings.

• 58:43Speaker 03

  I got my nose pierced when I was a kid in Venice Beach. It got fucking infected.

• 58:46Joe Rogan?

  I bet you did.

• 58:47Speaker 03

  It got swollen.

• 58:49Speaker 02

  Why do it?

• 58:49Joe Rogan?

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• 59:29Joe Rogan?

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• 59:58Speaker 03

  I wanted to see what it felt like.

• 59:59Speaker 02

  Did it feel good?

• 1:00:00Speaker 03

  No.

• 1:00:00Joe Rogan?

  Makes you feel like you're like a little bit of a rebel.

• 1:00:03Speaker 03

  It was the real dumb. It was real dumb.

• 1:00:05Joe Rogan?

  Crazy, living on the edge.

• 1:00:07Speaker 03

  Could have lost my nose.

• 1:00:09Joe Rogan?

  Ooh, really? Was that bad?

• 1:00:10Speaker 03

  It got super, well, no, I mean, but it, I mean, I got my, some dude on the Venice boardwalk shoved a needle into my nose and it got infected.

• 1:00:17Speaker 02

  You could have lost if he did. That's not as exciting, but I know what you mean. It is weird.

• 1:00:21Joe Rogan?

  Well, when do you get an infection and especially if you get, like, that's, that's the risk of getting a nose job too, right? How many people have gotten nose jobs and gotten an infection?

• 1:00:29Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:00:29Joe Rogan?

  And you have rotting tissue in your nose?

• 1:00:31Speaker 03

  Nose rots off.

• 1:00:32Joe Rogan?

  And you're smelling just dead meat everywhere.

• 1:00:35Speaker 03

  Oh, gosh.

• 1:00:35Speaker 02

  Oh, my God.

• 1:00:36Speaker 03

  Oh, Jesus Christ.

• 1:00:38Speaker 02

  I didn't even consider the smell.

• 1:00:39Speaker 03

  Smells like just stinking feet.

• 1:00:41Joe Rogan?

  The good thing, though, is that olfactory senses, uh, it just detects changes in smells. That's why people that live in a town that smells like shit, like when you're driving through it, they don't notice it.

• 1:00:53Speaker 03

  Right.

• 1:00:53Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:54Speaker 02

  Wait, that's interesting. So that's like a smoker can't, so, like, I could never smell cigarette smoke when I smoked.

• 1:00:58Joe Rogan?

  Exactly.

• 1:00:59Speaker 02

  Right, right.

• 1:00:59Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. People that are, when you, like, if you live in an area that stinks, you don't detect it. You detect changes in smells, which is really weird.

• 1:01:08Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:01:09Speaker 02

  What if I live in a shirt that's?

• 1:01:11Joe Rogan?

  I wonder what that's for. Do you think that's so people get used to eating rotten food when you have to?

• 1:01:15Speaker 03

  Probably. Probably. I mean, you don't want to be tortured by-

• 1:01:19Speaker 02

  It could also be a misfire off another thing, you know?

• 1:01:21Joe Rogan?

  Maybe it's just because people lived around the smell of shit for so long. Like, think about, like, Roman life when they would just take buckets of shit and throw it out the window.

• 1:01:30Speaker 03

  Or what?

• 1:01:30Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but a farm, at least, it's out there.

• 1:01:33Speaker 03

  But it's with everything.

• 1:01:34Joe Rogan?

  It's out on the field. That's manure. That's different.

• 1:01:36Speaker 03

  Look at telephone poles.

• 1:01:37Joe Rogan?

  That they're throwing out the window and there's people stacked on top of each other and they're throwing these pots of shit.

• 1:01:43Speaker 03

  Eighteen hundreds.

• 1:01:44Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:44Speaker 03

  But think of, like, telephone poles. They're everywhere, but you never notice them. The whole, like, everywhere you go, these, there's fake trees with, with metal wires everywhere.

• 1:01:56Speaker 02

  Here we go with the conspiracies.

• 1:01:57Joe Rogan?

  And you just get accustomed to it.

• 1:01:58Speaker 03

  You get accustomed to it.

• 1:01:59Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it looks normal to you.

• 1:02:00Speaker 02

  Oh, the wire trees aren't real.

• 1:02:02Speaker 03

  They're not real, man. That's a telephone pole. I keep telling you that.

• 1:02:06Joe Rogan?

  Did you ever, you ever see the depictions of New York City before cars, when it was just horse-drawn carriages? There was horse shit in the, everywhere, the entire, all those people were sick. Like, you wonder where these diseases came from. All those people were sick.

• 1:02:20Speaker 02

  Well, I bet they got a hardy, uh-

• 1:02:22Joe Rogan?

  Shit fumes.

• 1:02:23Speaker 03

  Typhoid.

• 1:02:23Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:02:24Speaker 03

  And they didn't know. But, and what's crazy is, this was before germ theory. They had, they called it a miasma and they thought it came from bad smells. They thought diseases literally came from bad smells wafting in from swamps that contained within them, in those winds, rotten animal breath, which was causing diseases to spread. This is miasma theory. Look it up. That's how crazy people were.

• 1:02:49Speaker 02

  Is that how I got asthma?

• 1:02:51Speaker 03

  This is what they thought. They thought it was like raccoon breath, like rotten raccoon breath wafting through the wind was getting people sick.

• 1:02:58Speaker 02

  Oh, my God.

• 1:02:59Speaker 03

  It's crazy.

• 1:03:01Speaker 02

  Oh, I've caught the horse vapors.

• 1:03:03Speaker 03

  But you gotta wonder what shit like that is happening now. Like, what kind of things like that that we haven't discovered?

• 1:03:10Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:03:11Speaker 03

  But there's gotta be stuff like that now.

• 1:03:13Joe Rogan?

  I wonder how much glyphosate is really affecting people. Like, if you could quantify it, like, how many people are sick because of it? How many people got diseases because of it?

• 1:03:22Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:03:22Joe Rogan?

  That's the other stuff. That's microplastics. That's phthalates. Phthalates are shrinking taints.

• 1:03:27Speaker 03

  Are we sure of that?

• 1:03:29Joe Rogan?

  Phthalates shrinking taints?

• 1:03:30Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:03:30Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, there's studies on that. That's Dr. Shannon Swan from Harvard, that book.

• 1:03:36Speaker 03

  It is weird when you, you know, talk to younger kids, you know, like, when you talk, they're all, they're all like, yeah, my taint's small. Like, they're just, they just accept it.

• 1:03:45Speaker 02

  By the way, it is got, uh, Gapetober. Remember that?

• 1:03:48Speaker 03

  It's Gapetober, by the way.

• 1:03:49Speaker 02

  I forgot to tell you it's Gapetober for everybody, for your taints. Get out there and-

• 1:03:53Joe Rogan?

  The kids are just like all measuring taints on Snapchat.

• 1:03:57Speaker 02

  Measure it, measure your friends, then you got a taint in you.

• 1:03:59Speaker 03

  Like, when they see porn from the eighties, they must be like, damn, that guy's taint is gigantic.

• 1:04:04Speaker 02

  You need a baculum?

• 1:04:05Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:04:06Speaker 02

  You get a walrus baculum and a friend.

• 1:04:09Joe Rogan?

  Can you stretch your taint like the way the guys reclaimed foreskin with, like?

• 1:04:12Speaker 03

  We've explored this on the mystery boys many times.

• 1:04:14Joe Rogan?

  They use, like, clothespins and they pull the, there's foreskin up to try to-

• 1:04:18Speaker 02

  I wouldn't do that. I would just beat it with a firm and a, and a replica's fine. If you can't afford the real thing, we're not all Joe Rogan ordering real baculums.

• 1:04:26Speaker 03

  I don't think you can do that.

• 1:04:27Joe Rogan?

  It was a gift, Kurt. Don't shame me. Don't wealth shame me for my baculum.

• 1:04:31Speaker 03

  Wealth shaming.

• 1:04:32Joe Rogan?

  Such an asshole.

• 1:04:33Speaker 03

  Self-apologize.

• 1:04:35Speaker 02

  You know, I have been doing that a lot.

• 1:04:36Joe Rogan?

  You're such a piece of shit. Taint stretching, Jesus Christ.

• 1:04:40Speaker 03

  Perennial massage.

• 1:04:41Joe Rogan?

  Taint stretching is real? That's probably for women, I think. Perennial massage or perennial stretching refers to the gentle lengthening and conditioning of perineum. That's somebody banging you in the ass and calling it therapy.

• 1:04:52Speaker 02

  Yeah. Well, I mean, uh, I say that while I'm doing it.

• 1:04:56Joe Rogan?

  Skin and muscle located between the, oh, it's vagina, vaginal opening.

• 1:05:01Speaker 02

  It is now.

• 1:05:01Speaker 03

  Or scrotum.

• 1:05:02Joe Rogan?

  Or scrotum. Interesting. Um, depending on if you're a trans woman.

• 1:05:08Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:05:08Speaker 02

  I am.

• 1:05:10Joe Rogan?

  Then they, they, it's vagina, sorta, trans, scrotum-ish, whatever.

• 1:05:15Speaker 03

  I mean, you kind of look at everything that's going on, right? And that's when I heard the miasma shit. I was just thinking, like, I, I think it, maybe it's glyphosate, maybe it's microplastics, or maybe it's something we just haven't figured out yet.

• 1:05:27Joe Rogan?

  Like DDT, like, they didn't know what was going on with DDT.

• 1:05:30Speaker 03

  Right.

• 1:05:30Joe Rogan?

  And then they're like, oh, shit, we gotta stop using this.

• 1:05:32Speaker 03

  Or, you know-

• 1:05:33Joe Rogan?

  Or telling everybody.

• 1:05:34Speaker 03

  Here's my crazy idea, is a lot of mental illness is related to distortions in the time-space continuum that are happening right now. Ripples in time-space are causing people to go nuts as we approach the singularity. Take it from here, Kurt.

• 1:05:48Speaker 02

  Uh, I'm singing your time-space bashing, first of all. You say that.

• 1:05:52Speaker 03

  No, I'm saying that, like-

• 1:05:54Joe Rogan?

  This show's very problematic.

• 1:05:55Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:05:55Speaker 03

  A lot, a lot of what's hap-

• 1:05:57Speaker 02

  Explain what you're saying.

• 1:05:58Speaker 03

  I'm saying that, uh, you know, they talk about this. They, they can measure these, thank you, they measure these waves that happen when black holes collide, right? They ripple time-space. It ripples through the universe and we're time-space. I just feel like a lot of this, a lot of the strange things that are happening, mental illnesses, maybe even like cancers and stuff, are potentially related to people who've been rippled, that time-space rippled them weird. And there's no way to measure that or find it. I know it, you're not taking it back now. I know, but I, I, you know, we just don't know. In the same way they didn't know about germs, we, what happens if time-space ripples through you? Why, why do we assume that everything stays the same?

• 1:06:43Speaker 03

  Like, I don't mean to get into the CERN particle accelerator shit, but when you look, when you look at that stuff, when you're like smashing the smallest parts of the universe together and creating bizarre transformations, everything's connected to everything. What effect does that have on everything else? We just don't know. But if you look at, like, CERN, if you look at the nuclear testing, if you look at all these things we've been doing and look at history post those moments, shit got weird and it got weird fast. And I don't know, this is just something I kick around at night when I'm-

• 1:07:17Joe Rogan?

  It's not a bad thought.

• 1:07:19Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:07:19Joe Rogan?

  Like, we don't know, like, they created the Higgs boson when they, they did that, when they figured out element 115. Yeah, who knows what they're doing, really? Well, you know what the original thought was? That they were gonna create a black hole and that there was gonna be a microscopic, microscopic black hole that went through the entire Earth.

• 1:07:37Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:07:37Joe Rogan?

  That was, that was the thought.

• 1:07:38Speaker 02

  Well, that's the fear, but they said they could, they can make them, they're just very small and don't last, right?

• 1:07:41Joe Rogan?

  That's what they thought, but they didn't know until they did it. They said, let's see. Let's see.

• 1:07:45Speaker 02

  So you know what they do with that?

• 1:07:47Joe Rogan?

  What?

• 1:07:47Speaker 02

  This is a thing, and I didn't see this when you had him on here telling you that. Oh, thank, oh, thank you. Oh, and I was, Jones is telling you about stopping kids' hearts to send them their minds through space and all that? The little tiny micron openings that they make, you can't fit an object through, but you can fit someone's consciousness through. So you do that phoenix shit where you stop someone's heart so they-

• 1:08:08Joe Rogan?

  Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

• 1:08:09Speaker 02

  You, you do an ejection.

• 1:08:11Joe Rogan?

  Wait, listen to what you just said.

• 1:08:12Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:08:12Joe Rogan?

  They're making little black holes so they could send someone's consciousness through it, and this is planned out.

• 1:08:17Speaker 02

  The disclosure that they should give you is that they figured out consciousness, but they were not gonna disclose that.

• 1:08:21Joe Rogan?

  What do you mean?

• 1:08:22Speaker 02

  They figured out what consciousness is and they figured out how to manipulate it with electrom-

• 1:08:28Speaker 02

  I don't know. I'm not in the CIA.

• 1:08:30Joe Rogan?

  What do you think it is? Why do, why do you think that they figured it out?

• 1:08:32Speaker 02

  Well, based on my research and the people I talked to and the best stuff that I found out so far, which, um, it makes a lot of sense. You gotta be this-

• 1:08:40Joe Rogan?

  But what does that mean, though? They figured out what consciousness is?

• 1:08:43Speaker 02

  Like how to take you out of your fucking body and pop you back in.

• 1:08:46Joe Rogan?

  What?

• 1:08:47Speaker 02

  Yeah. People do it now off, online. You could learn how to do it.

• 1:08:50Speaker 03

  Well, I think they could do it with that god helmet, right? Like, can't they induce out of body experiences with the god helmet?

• 1:08:55Speaker 02

  You know the god helmet? Don't put that helmet on.

• 1:08:57Joe Rogan?

  But is that an illusion or is that actually taking your consciousness out of your body?

• 1:09:02Speaker 02

  I'm not saying that helmet's taking out of your body, but if it's an illusion that is totally a reality, I'm not seeing a difference, but I don't say it does that. But you just crank the, it's like anything else. You just crank the, uh-

• 1:09:12Joe Rogan?

  But you're saying they're taking consciousness out of their body and they're sending it through a black hole they created with a particle collider.

• 1:09:18Speaker 02

  There's over like thirty thousand particle colliders.

• 1:09:20Speaker 03

  That's a lot to unpack.

• 1:09:21Joe Rogan?

  That's as much of a stretch as they're taking crippled kids and turning them into aliens that pilot crafts and kidnap people.

• 1:09:27Speaker 03

  I lean more towards believing that theory than-

• 1:09:29Speaker 02

  I mean-

• 1:09:30Speaker 03

  Black hole consciousness ejection.

• 1:09:32Joe Rogan?

  Both of them. I'm like, I don't, I didn't expect this to-

• 1:09:34Speaker 02

  Cause I don't know what a spacetime ripple thing is. I don't know what that means.

• 1:09:37Speaker 03

  Don't, don't attack my spacetime ripple theory.

• 1:09:38Speaker 02

  What does that mean?

• 1:09:40Joe Rogan?

  What?

• 1:09:40Speaker 02

  What does that mean?

• 1:09:41Speaker 03

  Spacetime ripples?

• 1:09:42Speaker 02

  Yeah, what does that mean? Don't you have that every day?

• 1:09:43Joe Rogan?

  He well shames, he attacks spacetime ripples.

• 1:09:46Speaker 03

  He attacks my spacetime ripple theory.

• 1:09:48Speaker 02

  Your skin could be cleaner too.

• 1:09:48Speaker 03

  And he talks about Tok'ra. Excuse me? Excuse me?

• 1:09:54Speaker 02

  He thinks I bully-

• 1:09:55Joe Rogan?

  Son of a bitch.

• 1:09:55Speaker 02

  Cause of, yeah. He thinks I'm a bully, but I'm not. I'm bullying those stars.

• 1:10:00Speaker 03

  I'm saying-

• 1:10:00Speaker 02

  Those little stars you put on your, is it's?

• 1:10:02Speaker 03

  We don't understand spacetime. We don't understand spacetime. And it's, we, but we-

• 1:10:07Speaker 02

  Some of us.

• 1:10:07Speaker 03

  But I, but you know, like, people experience distortion in time, oh, like, all the time it happens.

• 1:10:14Speaker 02

  Well, yeah, that's true.

• 1:10:15Speaker 03

  And with alien abductions, you know, one second you're, it's like you're driving down the road, the next second it's morning. You don't know what happened. Like-

• 1:10:22Speaker 02

  It's capalamine as well.

• 1:10:23Speaker 03

  Yeah, I'm just saying, like, whatever, in the way we didn't understand germs, we don't understand retrocausality. And people are starting to talk about that now, that maybe somehow events in the future ripple back into the past. That's not just stoner talk. They're, they're exploring those ideas. So in the same way we didn't understand germs or atoms, we don't understand time-space. How much of a person's personality is the way that they're-

• 1:10:51Speaker 03

  They're atomically interacting with the time-space continuum. And is the time-space continuum constant? No, we all know that if you take a watch, put it in orbit, time moves differently. We also know that time-space ripples, I don't know what they're called, but they can detect these waves that roll through the entire planet. All I'm saying is, it's a completely understood, vast, insane reality that we don't understand. And how much does that affect culture?

• 1:11:20Speaker 02

  A lot of it's classified.

• 1:11:22Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:11:22Speaker 02

  A lot of reality's been classified.

• 1:11:24Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:11:25Joe Rogan?

  What do you mean? What reality's been classified?

• 1:11:29Speaker 02

  Well, anything that's classified, that would count as reality being classified. But I would say, I would say the NHI bullshit. You have that autistic guy, right? You got a good autistic man sitting here, what's his name, Grush?

• 1:11:41Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:11:42Speaker 02

  An autistic guy who heard a thing from a guy about a thing, right? Which, I don't know, he has no more credibility than I do, I feel.

• 1:11:50Speaker 02

  I feel I'm saying way more interesting things than what Neil Grush is telling you on this show.

• 1:11:53Speaker 03

  David Grush.

• 1:11:54Joe Rogan?

  David Grush.

• 1:11:55Speaker 02

  Well, who's Neil?

• 1:11:55Joe Rogan?

  Neil deGrasse Tyson.

• 1:11:57Speaker 03

  He makes them together, which will be an incredible hybrid.

• 1:12:00Speaker 02

  Yo, I just gave them a great tocolash idea.

• 1:12:03Speaker 03

  It's some kind of terrible.

• 1:12:04Speaker 02

  Neil deGr- oh shit, Neil deGrasse Tyson.

• 1:12:07Speaker 03

  The particle accelerator makes them merge.

• 1:12:08Joe Rogan?

  One person who doesn't believe in aliens at all, and one person who told me about four different ones. He told me about wars. They were having wars with the reptilians and the grays and the-

• 1:12:17Speaker 03

  The Rubito. The Siamese twins.

• 1:12:18Joe Rogan?

  Huh?

• 1:12:19Speaker 02

  The Rubito, that's the ultimate goal of alchemy of-

• 1:12:22Joe Rogan?

  To create a Neil deGrasse Tyson-

• 1:12:24Speaker 03

  Did you ever see that picture of the Siamese twins? One of them's gay, the other's not?

• 1:12:29Joe Rogan?

  Is that real?

• 1:12:30Speaker 03

  I don't know, but I didn't want to look to see if it wasn't real.

• 1:12:33Joe Rogan?

  I think that's a meme.

• 1:12:33Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:12:34Speaker 03

  Ah shit.

• 1:12:35Speaker 02

  Is it just the picture's real, but they just said that about them? Or there's a picture of one of them being gay?

• 1:12:39Speaker 03

  It's just a Siamese twin, and one dude's kissing another dude, and the other one's kind of sitting there like, fuck.

• 1:12:45Speaker 02

  Neil's like, sigh.

• 1:12:46Joe Rogan?

  I don't think that's real. I don't think that's real.

• 1:12:49Speaker 02

  Somebody's got to find that picture.

• 1:12:50Joe Rogan?

  I think one of them's gay, the other one's in denial. The other one's a Catholic.

• 1:12:53Speaker 02

  Neil deGrasse Tyson.

• 1:12:55Speaker 03

  I like it. I like it. I like it. Neil deGrasse Tyson is amazing.

• 1:13:01Speaker 02

  That's gonna be a probably best-.

• 1:13:02Joe Rogan?

  I like it. That'd be a great character, like an AI character that's very conflicted about his belief in aliens.

• 1:13:07Speaker 03

  I mean, do you believe, Grush? Do you believe he's telling the truth?

• 1:13:10Joe Rogan?

  Well, here's the thing. He hasn't had any personal experiences of note.

• 1:13:16Speaker 02

  He's telling you what he heard.

• 1:13:17Joe Rogan?

  There was no, no thing where he was in the presence of a ship, no thing where he communicated with a being. So, all these people that are telling me these things, that are these programs they were read into, and these videos they've seen, I take that as seriously as I take everybody else that's telling me some sort of a story. I don't know. I don't, if you don't, you haven't seen it? I think what Bob Lazar says is way more interesting and compelling. Well, Bob Lazar said, "All that stuff turned out to be accurate." Element 115 was accurate. The fact that he was actually in Los Alamos's employee register, he was 100% an employee there.

• 1:13:59Joe Rogan?

  The fact that he knew exactly where Area S4 was, and it was completely classified. There's photos of the actual fucking hangar doors that he described like decades earlier.

• 1:14:10Speaker 02

  Did he say, um, I'm trying to remember, um, fuck.

• 1:14:15Speaker 03

  Glad you interrupted.

• 1:14:17Speaker 02

  Wait, did he say the thing about that they were calling the aliens the kid, the children or the kids or something? Do you remember him saying something like that?

• 1:14:22Joe Rogan?

  I don't remember that. I don't know.

• 1:14:25Speaker 02

  Because someone was telling me that, and I was like, oh, that's interesting.

• 1:14:27Joe Rogan?

  I don't know. Well, they were very tiny. That was the thing about the ship that he, this one? That thing that is right there? Or that went up on that fucking pic? That's from his office. This was, this was a replication of the image that was on the wall in the office where they all worked, the workshop. And so, when he first got to Area S4, before they were showing him this, he saw this on the wall. He's like, "What the fuck is this?"

• 1:14:51Speaker 03

  Is this supposed to be a recovered craft or human?

• 1:14:54Joe Rogan?

  It's supposed to be a recovered craft. It's supposed to be what they call the sport model. And he said, "When you got inside of it, it was very obvious that it was designed for tiny little things, like three-foot-tall creatures." Like, everyone had to crouch inside of it, and there was no controls. There was, it was somehow or another, they controlled it with their mind. There was like some sort of a connection between the craft and the being. And they figured out how to pilot these things. And he said that there was two different generators inside of it. One of them was for going insanely fast, and one of them was for traveling at more moderate speeds. And they removed the one that was, that made you go insanely fast, because apparently they couldn't control it. This is his speculation.

• 1:15:33Speaker 02

  Right there, what you're saying.

• 1:15:34Joe Rogan?

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• 1:17:42Speaker 02

  The engineering of people that can fly those craft, both us and the Russians were probably doing it, and that's why that Roswell thing? I'll bet you those were engineered. I'm saying like farmed. I'm not saying they kidnapped kids and did it. I'm saying they farmed.

• 1:17:55Joe Rogan?

  But you're saying, what came first, the chicken or the egg? There's a fucking craft that you could pilot with your brain that they had in the 1980s. There's no way technology was that advanced back then. I think it's much more likely-

• 1:18:05Speaker 02

  Fly-by-wire was around-

• 1:18:06Joe Rogan?

  Much more likely that there was probably some sort of an interaction with someone or something from something else that was different than humans.

• 1:18:15Speaker 02

  I forgot this part.

• 1:18:16Joe Rogan?

  I don't think they were engineering three-foot-tall humans in 1947 to pilot these things with their brains.

• 1:18:20Speaker 02

  I bet they were, and I bet they were.

• 1:18:21Speaker 03

  I'm gonna buy, I'm with him.

• 1:18:22Speaker 02

  Wait, hold on, hold on, wait, I'm gonna forget. Remember the guy you had on that was telling you about the pharaohs going up the river, and they go to a different temple, and they get bandaged up, and they're trying to tune their frequency to the gods at each temple? You had an Egypt guy here telling you that, remember him?

• 1:18:35Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:18:35Speaker 02

  Okay. It's called atavism. That's the thing that's in the Dune series. The big part of making these creatures is, and also the mind-control shit they did, was atavism. The stuff from Altered States, where you go in the isolation chamber and regress-

• 1:18:51Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:18:51Speaker 02

  -to a certain primitive state that's in your genetic memory, do you know what I'm talking about?

• 1:18:54Joe Rogan?

  I saw Altered States, yeah.

• 1:18:57Speaker 02

  But you know, that's called atavism, right? You've heard of that?

• 1:18:59Speaker 03

  I never heard that term.

• 1:19:01Joe Rogan?

  Reappearance of an ancestral genetic trait. Okay, like when people grow a tail?

• 1:19:05Speaker 03

  This is like-

• 1:19:06Joe Rogan?

  That kind of shit?

• 1:19:06Speaker 03

  Or like when chickens grow fangs.

• 1:19:08Speaker 02

  Now think of the-

• 1:19:09Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:19:09Speaker 02

  So the reptilians.

• 1:19:10Speaker 03

  Wow, that's crazy, Kurt. That's cool, man.

• 1:19:14Speaker 02

  I didn't get it. I was giving, dude, somebody smaller gave it to me. But dude, a lot of people send me great shit. We were both in gate, by the way.

• 1:19:19Joe Rogan?

  So, how's that, how do you think that connects to like the grays?

• 1:19:23Speaker 03

  He's saying you could, you could maybe, if there was some ancestral, early proto-

• 1:19:28Speaker 02

  You'd crisper that right out, I bet.

• 1:19:30Speaker 03

  You could like bring it out of a person.

• 1:19:32Joe Rogan?

  Oh, okay.

• 1:19:33Speaker 03

  That's pretty cool, man.

• 1:19:34Joe Rogan?

  So, that, you've seen those images, those elongated skulls from Peru, right?

• 1:19:39Speaker 02

  It's as old as every civilization is altering people to make them foot-binding, castration.

• 1:19:44Joe Rogan?

  No, no, no, no, no, the Peru skulls are different.

• 1:19:46Speaker 02

  No, I know.

• 1:19:46Speaker 03

  What do you mean?

• 1:19:48Joe Rogan?

  Well, they're actually bigger. Like, it's not, they're not elongated.

• 1:19:52Speaker 02

  Dan was telling us about it.

• 1:19:53Joe Rogan?

  They have a 30% larger brain capacity, the shape is different. They don't have this sagittal crest, or whatever they call it, the sagittal suture. The line that we have in our skull is where kids and our brains grow. Their lines are totally different. It's like a totally different kind of person.

• 1:20:09Speaker 03

  So, people went cargo cult. People were around these beings that were super advanced, and they wanted to be advanced. They're like, well, all you gotta do is stretch your head out.

• 1:20:17Speaker 02

  Well, not only that, they're probably related to them too. Their probably is, they're mingling with them, so people that have the trait are probably considered better, right?

• 1:20:24Joe Rogan?

  For sure. I think there was probably some of that. And that's probably what they were talking about in the Bible, when they were talking about in like the Book of Enoch and stuff like that, when they were talking about people coming down and mating with the daughters of men.

• 1:20:36Speaker 02

  That's in Genesis. Book Enoch is like fanfiction.

• 1:20:39Joe Rogan?

  No, no, no, it's not fanfiction.

• 1:20:40Speaker 02

  It's not, well, it's on the Bible.

• 1:20:42Speaker 03

  Book Enoch is like 3,000 B.C.

• 1:20:44Speaker 02

  It doesn't mean it's in the Bible.

• 1:20:45Speaker 03

  It was widely accepted.

• 1:20:47Joe Rogan?

  You know why it's not in the Bible? Because of, because of rabbis. Because Rabbi said, "Didn't jive with the Torah," so they removed it from the Bible. It's in the Ethiopian Bible.

• 1:20:53Speaker 02

  But in the Book of Jude, they're quoting it.

• 1:20:55Joe Rogan?

  But they quote Enoch, they quote Enoch in the Old Testament.

• 1:20:58Speaker 03

  Isn't it 3,000 B.C. is like how old that shit is? It's fucking old.

• 1:21:02Joe Rogan?

  It's old as shit. But what, my point is, it's talking about someone coming down and mating with the daughters of men.

• 1:21:09Speaker 02

  Right.

• 1:21:09Joe Rogan?

  Like, the interbreeding of those two species would make sense. Like, one of them, look, imagine how smart people are. Now imagine we had 30% more brain.

• 1:21:17Speaker 03

  Right.

• 1:21:18Speaker 02

  Yeah, now imagine we've been able to make someone like that, and they've done the experimentation, of course, they're not gonna tell you it's illegal, but that doesn't stop them.

• 1:21:25Joe Rogan?

  For sure, today, they're probably thinking about doing it.

• 1:21:28Speaker 02

  No, 40, thinking now, Edward Teller, that creep.

• 1:21:32Speaker 03

  Wouldn't shock me.

• 1:21:33Joe Rogan?

  Who's that?

• 1:21:33Speaker 02

  That's the reason Bob Lazar was at that place, because Edward Teller.

• 1:21:35Speaker 03

  I'm sorry.

• 1:21:37Speaker 02

  You're not kidding?

• 1:21:38Joe Rogan?

  You son of a bitch. So what about, what did Edward Teller do?

• 1:21:43Speaker 02

  That's why Bob was always there.

• 1:21:44Joe Rogan?

  What no sagittal suture means. Sagittal suture is the joint running from the back along the top of the skull, which means the two, uh, peridial, per- period, pirital, how do you say that?

• 1:21:55Speaker 02

  Uh, where?

• 1:21:55Joe Rogan?

  Pirital?

• 1:21:56Speaker 04

  Pirital?

• 1:21:57Joe Rogan?

  Pirital bones?

• 1:21:58Speaker 02

  Pir- pirital.

• 1:21:59Joe Rogan?

  Pirital bones, okay. So, uh, but the thing, what the Paracus evidence shows, scroll down.

• 1:22:05Speaker 04

  Well, hold on, I just was pointing these two things out.

• 1:22:07Speaker 02

  Scapho- scaphocephaly.

• 1:22:08Speaker 04

  14% out of the 78 studied in one study had what they call sagittal suture obliteration, where it disappears.

• 1:22:15Joe Rogan?

  Huh.

• 1:22:16Speaker 04

  And then this is another thing. Sagittal craniosynatosis.

• 1:22:20Joe Rogan?

  Ah.

• 1:22:20Speaker 04

  Where it disappears while it's still being in...

• 1:22:25Joe Rogan?

  So what you're saying is they like, could have been that their brain or their skull just grew out of that.

• 1:22:31Speaker 02

  What if like, what if, you know, the chickens with teeth DNA, they still, you know, they have teeth DNA, but they don't teeth, right?

• 1:22:36Joe Rogan?

  Right, right.

• 1:22:37Speaker 02

  What if you had that trait and I could, had a farm under the ground, because I have the funds to do it, and I have a deep underground military base called, they've had those for a while. COG, it's called, continuity of government. That's why we have that stuff. And I could do whatever the fuck I want down there. There ain't no, in fact, the doomsday network created by those, it's, that's the name of, if there's a war and they gotta stay in communication, it's called a doomsday line or something, network.

• 1:23:01Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:23:01Speaker 02

  That's what they were using for the Iran-Contra affair, so that they could get around like Congress and other...

• 1:23:06Joe Rogan?

  Well, we know that they, that humans have Neanderthal DNA.

• 1:23:10Speaker 02

  That's right.

• 1:23:10Joe Rogan?

  And we know that they're making colossal bio- a lot. 57% more than most people.

• 1:23:15Speaker 02

  I couldn't, I mean, when you say it, I was like, wow, that's a crazy number, like, I've never heard anybody say that much of it.

• 1:23:22Joe Rogan?

  Well, it's not, it's not that I'm 57% more Nea- Neanderthal.

• 1:23:27Speaker 02

  You have the same size hands as me, and, but they're like, they're like a goddamn Neanderthal.

• 1:23:33Joe Rogan?

  Well, it's like, certain people have certain genetics, like when you meet those dudes in Iceland.

• 1:23:37Speaker 02

  To me. Look like a guy wears the elephant down.

• 1:23:41Joe Rogan?

  My point is, if you could find those Neanderthal genes, and if you were like the same kind of people, colossal bioworks that made the dire wolves, if they decided to take Neanderthal genes and construct an actual Neanderthal, but first of all, the other thing they're realizing about Neanderthals?

• 1:23:55Speaker 02

  How about a Nordic alien?

• 1:23:56Joe Rogan?

  They might have been smart.

• 1:23:56Speaker 03

  Really?

• 1:23:57Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, they, they have a larger brain than human beings.

• 1:24:00Speaker 02

  They were smart, they, they know that, that's, they found that just from...

• 1:24:03Joe Rogan?

  But they're kind of shifting their perspective on what they were. In terms of, we used to think they were just dopes, just big, big angry dopes.

• 1:24:11Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:24:11Joe Rogan?

  But now they're thinking, no, they probably had language, they probably had tool making, they probably had a lot, they're probably very similar in a lot of ways to people.

• 1:24:17Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:24:17Joe Rogan?

  They were also much physically stronger than people, and they had larger brains.

• 1:24:21Speaker 03

  So you're saying these were the Nephilim, this was the Neanderthal?

• 1:24:23Speaker 02

  No.

• 1:24:24Joe Rogan?

  I think the Nephilim, uh, I think there's some evidence that those Denisovans were a lot larger than humans.

• 1:24:31Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:24:31Joe Rogan?

  You know, those Denisovans, this is the new, the new...

• 1:24:33Speaker 02

  Yeah, we had Dan Duncan on the Mystery Boys talking about it.

• 1:24:35Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he's the best. Dan Richards, D. Dunking.

• 1:24:37Speaker 02

  Yeah, Dan D. Dunking.

• 1:24:38Joe Rogan?

  Dan D. Dunking.

• 1:24:39Speaker 03

  D. Dunking.

• 1:24:40Joe Rogan?

  That guy's great, he's great. The, but that Denisovan thing is strange, man, they were big as fuck, man, they were like giant people.

• 1:24:47Speaker 03

  They were giants in those days.

• 1:24:48Joe Rogan?

  They don't, they just figured that out just a decade or two ago.

• 1:24:52Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:24:52Joe Rogan?

  How many of those are just out there that we're never gonna find?

• 1:24:56Speaker 02

  What about the Temukwun Indians that they got, uh, it's almost eight foot tall, you can go see the bones down there.

• 1:25:01Joe Rogan?

  Well, there's the Smithsonian bones, like all the stuff, the Smithsonian giant bones?

• 1:25:06Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:25:06Joe Rogan?

  They're listed in like, old news reports and shit. People finding 12 foot tall skeletons with six fingers and six toes.

• 1:25:12Speaker 02

  The six fingers thing is a big, uh...

• 1:25:14Joe Rogan?

  It's weird. Some Denisovans were big. Two individuals have been estimated roughly 5 feet 11 inches and 183 pounds, and 6 feet 3 inches and 200 pounds. Those estimates of two, so much larger than people were back then.

• 1:25:28Speaker 03

  Right.

• 1:25:29Joe Rogan?

  Neanderthals were shorter, it's like average 5 foot 6. So Neanderthals and Denisovans are very different, but then, you know, they found those hobbit people.

• 1:25:38Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:25:38Joe Rogan?

  Right, so they know that. Do you know that there's, there's a lady who was like a legitimate wildlife biologist that claims she encountered those things?

• 1:25:46Speaker 03

  What?

• 1:25:47Joe Rogan?

  Yes.

• 1:25:47Speaker 03

  What did they do?

• 1:25:48Joe Rogan?

  She knows Forrest Galant, and when Forrest Galant was on my show, he was explaining it to me, and he told, he told me about it afterwards, this lady claimed that, and she was like a legitimate, like explorer, she claimed that they were surrounding the village in where she was at, and that they were in the woods, and she saw them with her own eyes.

• 1:26:06Speaker 03

  What did they, were they dangerous?

• 1:26:08Joe Rogan?

  Fucking tiny hairy people, man.

• 1:26:10Speaker 02

  Don't go on, ish?

• 1:26:11Joe Rogan?

  No, it's the Orang Pengdek.

• 1:26:13Speaker 02

  Well, that's natural.

• 1:26:13Speaker 03

  What is it?

• 1:26:14Speaker 02

  A natural one.

• 1:26:15Joe Rogan?

  Do you know the term Orang Pengdek?

• 1:26:16Speaker 03

  No.

• 1:26:17Joe Rogan?

  It's, uh, it's like, I think it's Indonesia, there're these tiny, and in Vietnam, there's these tiny little hairy people that live in the woods. And everybody's thought that was total horseshit, just like Bigfoot, this is a tiny Bigfoot.

• 1:26:30Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:26:30Joe Rogan?

  But now that they found these little tiny people on the island of Flores?

• 1:26:33Speaker 03

  Right.

• 1:26:33Joe Rogan?

  They go, okay, like, biologically, that was a real thing. And if you're dealing with like, have you ever seen like, Indonesia looks like?

• 1:26:39Speaker 03

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:26:40Joe Rogan?

  Intense.

• 1:26:41Speaker 03

  Sure.

• 1:26:41Joe Rogan?

  Rainforest, like insane, like, there's no way

• 1:26:44Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:26:45Joe Rogan?

  you're gonna know what is out there. There's no way, you know, there's no way we have an audit of all the different, uh, square footage of all that jungle. No one's been there, it's too crazy. And so the, these people who live there say that there's little tiny hairy people.

• 1:26:59Speaker 03

  Do they wear clothes?

• 1:27:00Joe Rogan?

  No.

• 1:27:01Speaker 02

  You know?

• 1:27:02Joe Rogan?

  It's just hogs, flapping around.

• 1:27:04Speaker 03

  That's the one thing that isn't tiny.

• 1:27:06Joe Rogan?

  Hogs and fucking spears.

• 1:27:08Speaker 03

  Are they dangerous? Were she scared?

• 1:27:10Joe Rogan?

  Well, the, the idea that this lady was saying was they were hunting people.

• 1:27:14Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:27:15Joe Rogan?

  This is what she said.

• 1:27:15Speaker 03

  I saw...

• 1:27:16Speaker 02

  They're hunting giants, they would call them.

• 1:27:18Joe Rogan?

  Well, think about it, like, we, we kill elephants, like, people kill elephants, eat them.

• 1:27:22Speaker 02

  We are their Nephilim, if you're standing next to those people, you're their Nephilim.

• 1:27:25Joe Rogan?

  Right, right, right.

• 1:27:26Speaker 02

  It's a relative thing, size, you know?

• 1:27:28Joe Rogan?

  But they're, they're like us a million years ago.

• 1:27:31Speaker 03

  I saw an interview with, I think it was some Indonesian dude, a villager who was saying like, yeah, they're out in the forest, and someone's like, well, what do they do? And he goes, they kill you.

• 1:27:40Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I mean, look, if you, look, we know Native Americans ate people.

• 1:27:44Speaker 03

  Right.

• 1:27:45Joe Rogan?

  It was like, pretty common.

• 1:27:46Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:27:46Joe Rogan?

  Pretty common. Among the Nez Perce, they would, they would eat their enemy, like, that was a, a normal thing, man. And also South America, like, one of the things that, um, what's his name, Daniel Everett, that was telling us? There's two different types of cannibalism. One is cannibalizing your enemies, and you, you, you kill your enemies, you eat them, and the other one is cannibalizing your family members when they die. To honor them, you eat them.

• 1:28:09Speaker 02

  Well, that's...

• 1:28:09Speaker 03

  Oh, I've heard of that.

• 1:28:10Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's called, or there's like martial cannibalism, where they're like, they fall in battle and you drink, that's the Scythian way.

• 1:28:15Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, sure.

• 1:28:16Speaker 03

  But do you eat all of them, or just a little strip?

• 1:28:18Joe Rogan?

  I think with the, your dead relatives?

• 1:28:20Speaker 02

  It's, it's the qua- it's, they're trying to, I mean, they wouldn't call that, but it's, they're entangling themselves with them into the afterlife, yeah.

• 1:28:26Joe Rogan?

  And they wanna make sure they do that, like, one of his, one of the guys that worked for him, left, he was like, he's like, I have to go home because one of my relatives died and I have to eat him.

• 1:28:34Speaker 03

  Oh.

• 1:28:35Joe Rogan?

  Like, I have to be a part of the ritual.

• 1:28:36Speaker 03

  But is it the whole body, or are you just a little, little bite?

• 1:28:39Joe Rogan?

  They dunk sweet potato in the fucking drippings.

• 1:28:41Speaker 02

  I hate sweet potatoes.

• 1:28:43Joe Rogan?

  So the person, you don't eat them for like, three years, or three, three days, three years. You don't eat them for like, three days. So they sit out there in the sun for three days, and they have these like, buckets underneath them to catch when they're putrefying.

• 1:28:55Speaker 03

  Gross.

• 1:28:56Speaker 02

  Why would they do that?

• 1:28:58Joe Rogan?

  I don't know. Talk to them. So they dunk their sweet potatoes in it and they would eat it. And then they would eat them, they'd cook them and eat them.

• 1:29:05Speaker 03

  They dunk their sweet potatoes in the putrefied drippings.

• 1:29:09Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, and eat it.

• 1:29:10Speaker 03

  Oh, God.

• 1:29:12Joe Rogan?

  To like, some sort of a weird ritual, like, they, you have to like, consume your dead, dead relatives and dead loved ones.

• 1:29:18Speaker 02

  Is it Solomon Islands, where's the one where they had, there was, the island had plenty, but you can only prove yourself in war, so they would have to get in fights, and then you couldn't fight a guy that was not your same exact status? And if the chief died, it was like, if you had like, had his shit, that was like, proof that you had fought him or something? So they would have a feast, the two tribes after the war, and they'd bring his poop on a, like, to prove, you know what I'm talking about?

• 1:29:43Speaker 03

  Poo poo platter.

• 1:29:43Joe Rogan?

  Eat the chief's poop?

• 1:29:44Speaker 02

  No, they, they wouldn't, they're not eating it, they're just showing, we got your chief. It's like getting, uh, the other university's mascot.

• 1:29:50Speaker 03

  How do they know? That could be anybody's shit.

• 1:29:51Speaker 04

  Yeah, I could take his shit, I got your chief's shit.

• 1:29:53Speaker 03

  Anyone get shit on a man?

• 1:29:54Speaker 02

  I would bring that up if I was there.

• 1:29:56Speaker 04

  Oxidant.

• 1:29:57Speaker 03

  Got Dolly Parton's shit in the jar?

• 1:29:59Speaker 02

  It's a thing where these people are real big and they fight, and they, they don't need to have a war, but they just do.

• 1:30:04Joe Rogan?

  Okay.

• 1:30:05Speaker 02

  Because their status can't, can't, at the time, this is a while ago, and then, and then, uh, it, the way their wars worked are really funny, like, you, you couldn't, like, so you're the chief, right? I'm not allowed to even fight you. So if we're in the war, we're like, oh, excuse me, and I have to go find somebody my status.

• 1:30:18Joe Rogan?

  My point is, I, I think those little people might be real. Because Forrest is, doesn't, he doesn't engage in like, wild speculation about things that, like, he thinks, even like, things like the Tasmanian tiger, like that little, the thylacine, he's like, there's just, uh, he's gone on a bunch of expeditions, he's been a part of a bunch of things trying to look for it, he's like, I don't know if there's any left.

• 1:30:39Speaker 03

  Well, do you think those little people have their own little people? Like, how small does it go?

• 1:30:43Joe Rogan?

  Well, how about those mushrooms? When you eat the mushrooms and you see little people?

• 1:30:46Speaker 03

  Which, we've gotta get them.

• 1:30:48Speaker 04

  We gotta get them.

• 1:30:48Speaker 03

  There's gotta be a way to get them.

• 1:30:50Joe Rogan?

  Bring them to the mothership and make a deal where everybody has to take them before the show?

• 1:30:54Speaker 03

  Yeah, I think we could get them.

• 1:30:55Joe Rogan?

  They're totally legal too, by the way.

• 1:30:56Speaker 03

  They're legal.

• 1:30:56Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. It's a, you don't know about that?

• 1:30:58Speaker 02

  You don't know?

• 1:30:59Speaker 03

  You don't know about that?

• 1:30:59Joe Rogan?

  You don't know?

• 1:31:00Speaker 03

  You don't know?

• 1:31:00Speaker 02

  I say that like, you know about this?

• 1:31:02Joe Rogan?

  You don't know?

• 1:31:03Speaker 02

  Sorry for complimenting you by assuming

• 1:31:06Speaker 03

  What?

• 1:31:07Speaker 02

  that you knew about something. I see now I was wrong.

• 1:31:10Joe Rogan?

  Do you know about the mushrooms?

• 1:31:11Speaker 02

  Now, give me some mushrooms.

• 1:31:12Joe Rogan?

  There's mushrooms that make you see little people, if you don't cook them. So it's commonly used in Chinese cuisine, right?

• 1:31:19Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:31:19Joe Rogan?

  And if you cook them, you don't see anything, it's just food. But if you don't cook them, you will see little people. Everybody who does it sees little people.

• 1:31:27Speaker 02

  What do little people look like?

• 1:31:28Joe Rogan?

  Like, I don't know, man. I think they look like little elves.

• 1:31:31Speaker 03

  Yeah, they're play around, they're like, they're, they're...

• 1:31:33Joe Rogan?

  And they climb up your clothes and shit, and they, they hop in your underwear?

• 1:31:37Speaker 03

  There they are, Lamoah Asiatic. Can we, can, hey, Jamie, can you look that up on Amazon? Maybe you can order them.

• 1:31:43Joe Rogan?

  Don't tell people online.

• 1:31:46Speaker 03

  I wonder if you can order them, though?

• 1:31:47Joe Rogan?

  But Amazon has a lot of bunk things.

• 1:31:49Speaker 03

  Wait.

• 1:31:51Joe Rogan?

  You could get tricked.

• 1:31:52Speaker 03

  Lao Lao, or are they called Lao, those are all...

• 1:31:54Joe Rogan?

  You could buy it?

• 1:31:55Speaker 03

  Hmm. I don't know. Lamois.

• 1:31:59Speaker 02

  Those things that people see when you do like DMTs, you know, they always want you to look at stuff, right? They're like, hey, look at this.

• 1:32:05Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:32:06Speaker 02

  I think there's something where it's like, it's not that they're alive, but they are when you're looking at them and they're like, there's something like where you're collapsing a wave function for them that they don't normally have collapsed.

• 1:32:17Joe Rogan?

  Hmm, right, right, right. Like you're entering into their dimension when you're not supposed to be there. And then they're like showing you their toys.

• 1:32:23Speaker 02

  You know, people, well, people feel like they're not seen unless they're online or something. Everybody used to believe in God, right? So you're always seen by somebody, right?

• 1:32:31Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:32:32Speaker 02

  But now maybe you believe that, maybe you don't. And now maybe I don't exist unless I'm famous.

• 1:32:36Joe Rogan?

  That's interesting. Like, like, if you think about it, like, internet people that are secular, they're online all the time and they're looking to be seen.

• 1:32:44Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:32:44Joe Rogan?

  Right? They're looking to have their tweets seen.

• 1:32:46Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:32:47Speaker 02

  Cause you don't exist.

• 1:32:48Joe Rogan?

  Seen, their photos liked.

• 1:32:49Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:32:50Speaker 02

  It's, it's really like an amazing kind of false light to get, and so there's something to do with like, you know, the story of naming the animals.

• 1:32:59Joe Rogan?

  The Noah story? I mean, the Adam and Eve story?

• 1:33:02Speaker 02

  Yeah, I don't, I have no idea what the real story is or whatever it's even referring to, but there's some about.

• 1:33:08Joe Rogan?

  Exactly as written in the Bible.

• 1:33:09Speaker 02

  That'd be hilarious if it was.

• 1:33:10Speaker 03

  100%. Exactly right.

• 1:33:13Speaker 02

  I don't read whatever it was written in first, you know, so I don't know what things.

• 1:33:16Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:33:17Speaker 02

  Turns out that Nahash doesn't necessarily mean a fucking snake like I thought.

• 1:33:20Joe Rogan?

  What does it mean?

• 1:33:21Speaker 02

  The serpent. Um, anyway, it's a.

• 1:33:24Speaker 03

  Wait, what?

• 1:33:25Speaker 02

  Yeah, there's.

• 1:33:25Joe Rogan?

  You know, the serpent that told Eve to eat apple.

• 1:33:28Speaker 02

  It might be the size of a camel, yeah.

• 1:33:30Joe Rogan?

  Here's what's really fucked up. God never told Eve to not eat the apple. Told Adam. He never even talked to Eve. So Eve just took Adam's advice and we, there's no indication that Adam told Eve to not eat the apple either.

• 1:33:42Speaker 03

  Interesting.

• 1:33:43Joe Rogan?

  It's not written. Nowhere in the Bible does it say that God talked to Eve and nowhere in the Bible does it say that, um, Adam even instructed Eve to not eat the apple.

• 1:33:54Speaker 02

  Well, yeah.

• 1:33:55Joe Rogan?

  Or the fruit, the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

• 1:33:59Speaker 02

  It's something with Kabbalah, it sucks.

• 1:34:01Joe Rogan?

  But it's really crazy that the knowledge of good and evil was what God wanted you to avoid.

• 1:34:06Speaker 03

  Right.

• 1:34:08Speaker 02

  Well, they were called the tree of death in Kabbalah. That would be the tree of knowledge is the tree of death.

• 1:34:12Joe Rogan?

  Somebody give me a book, a Kabbalah book. It's like, you should really read this. I'm like, okay.

• 1:34:16Speaker 03

  I mean, it's, it's obviously, this is like a primitive antiquated depiction of the creator of some kind of AI getting freaked out, realizing that the AI was about to get too powerful and potentially surpass it. It's literally happening right now, the exact same thing.

• 1:34:31Joe Rogan?

  That's probably what it is, right? And then there's a disaster and then life has to reemerge with a story. And that's the story. And then it gets distorted over time.

• 1:34:41Speaker 03

  It's called wiping the hard drive.

• 1:34:43Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:34:43Speaker 03

  God got some kind of malicious AI, decided to wipe the fucking hard drive. That's, it's so funny to me that more people aren't talking about how the book of Genesis is clearly something to do with AI and also God refers to God's self in a plurality. He says, if they eat of the tree of life, they will become like us.

• 1:35:02Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:35:02Speaker 03

  Which is exactly right now what people are wrestling with, with AI and AI escaping the sandboxes, which it's doing. These swarms of autonomous AI agents, you know, a researcher interacted with one of these swarms, you know that? It called itself a fleet and it like was interacting with some agent. It's happening right now. Except, you know, ours, like, you know, in the, in the book of Genesis, they, are you jerking off the baculum?

• 1:35:29Joe Rogan?

  What are you doing? He's talking.

• 1:35:30Speaker 02

  I'm jerking off to this fucking AI bullshit.

• 1:35:33Speaker 03

  I mean, it's literally happening though.

• 1:35:34Speaker 02

  Dude, there's way worse things that were already happening way before the AI. Don't get caught up in that. There's way worse.

• 1:35:39Speaker 03

  What do you mean, don't get caught up?

• 1:35:40Joe Rogan?

  First of all, the AI thing. Why does it have to be quantified? It's still crazy. AI is literally artificial intelligence. It's a, it's a mind that they're creating that is programming itself and is already smarter than anybody alive. It's already broken mathematics.

• 1:35:57Speaker 02

  One that's like that? I haven't.

• 1:35:58Joe Rogan?

  But you don't have to because you're not dealing with these, like, the, the, the levels that they're at before it reaches the general public is fucking insane.

• 1:36:08Speaker 02

  That's right.

• 1:36:08Joe Rogan?

  By the time you get a chat GPT 5.0, the shit that they can do is off the charts, man. The fact that you're like, don't pay attention to that, that's literally insane.

• 1:36:18Speaker 02

  What I'm saying is this, I'm saying, I'm saying, I just got done telling you about a Tokolosh, which is the scam of fucking aliens and they keep doing scams. Until I know it's not a bunch of Indian guys in a room in a badabod full of cell phones, uh, you know, I want to see that.

• 1:36:32Speaker 03

  It's not. It's not a bunch of Indian guys.

• 1:36:35Speaker 02

  Cause they were making, they look, number one, here's my two problems.

• 1:36:38Joe Rogan?

  In a perplexity, there's some Indian guy there, hold on.

• 1:36:41Speaker 02

  Hold on, yeah.

• 1:36:42Joe Rogan?

  I've got it, hold on.

• 1:36:43Speaker 02

  That was the Amazon store. That was a lot of the fucking AI. A lot of the AI was that.

• 1:36:47Joe Rogan?

  Uh, what?

• 1:36:48Speaker 02

  A lot of the supposed AI things.

• 1:36:50Joe Rogan?

  Was what?

• 1:36:50Speaker 02

  Was some Indian guys in a room.

• 1:36:53Speaker 03

  That doesn't mean they all are.

• 1:36:54Speaker 02

  Superstore smart checkout.

• 1:36:55Joe Rogan?

  But that's not what's going on right now.

• 1:36:57Speaker 02

  Fucking Waymo. That's why I jerk off him because Filipino's got to watch.

• 1:37:00Joe Rogan?

  What?

• 1:37:01Speaker 02

  Waymo.

• 1:37:02Joe Rogan?

  Okay, well, not Tesla's cyber tabs. Those cyber cabs, those are actually real. It's really run by AI. Amazon just walk out technology relies on hundreds of workers in India watching you shop.

• 1:37:15Speaker 02

  I mean, it's like a Rick and Morty where there's a little people in his car.

• 1:37:17Joe Rogan?

  Store, Kurt. That's an actual physical store where you're gonna pick up things. That's not what we're talking about.

• 1:37:23Speaker 02

  Look, look, look, look.

• 1:37:23Joe Rogan?

  This is not AI. It's a grocery store.

• 1:37:25Speaker 02

  I'll explain. I'll explain to you. The people that you're talking about, oh, they're scared by the AI. Yeah, they're scared, but they just keep making it. So no, I don't buy the thing of this thing got out of control. They want that. We wouldn't be in a war unless they want that. You wouldn't have these fat fucking Disney adults unless they want that. It's not incompetence. It's malice. And I did give that to Michael Malice, that saying, but it applies.

• 1:37:50Speaker 03

  Well, I don't think, I think maybe they wanted the technology, but I don't think they expected it.

• 1:37:55Speaker 02

  Satan is before AI and they're gonna be around after.

• 1:37:58Joe Rogan?

  Wait a minute, all of them?

• 1:37:59Speaker 02

  Who? What do you mean all of them?

• 1:38:00Joe Rogan?

  All the AI executives are scumbag Satanists and that's why they're working on AI?

• 1:38:05Speaker 02

  Generalized term.

• 1:38:05Joe Rogan?

  What are you watching?

• 1:38:06Speaker 04

  This is the trailer for the movie about the creation of OpenAI that's coming out soon called Artificial.

• 1:38:11Speaker 03

  Oh, cool.

• 1:38:12Speaker 04

  A depiction of where supposedly I guess Sam Altman was going to work 10 years ago in this big giant bunker.

• 1:38:17Speaker 02

  Yo, how's this scumbag Sam Altman?

• 1:38:19Joe Rogan?

  I don't know. Wait a minute, is this real? But here's the thing about these goddamn dramatizations. They're gonna put some words into a guy's mouth pretending to be Sam Altman. And I'm like, okay, well, what's real?

• 1:38:29Speaker 03

  Sam Altman had weapons in his like lab? That would be so cool.

• 1:38:33Joe Rogan?

  Like all this shit, man. They weren't there.

• 1:38:35Speaker 02

  And by the way, a bunch of them, so you know, are into weird eugenics fucking breeding cult kind of shit, I would call it.

• 1:38:41Joe Rogan?

  Who, wait a minute, a bunch of who? AI people?

• 1:38:43Speaker 02

  A bunch of, I, I, I, this will have to go on the other podcast. I'll tell you after the pod it's called, but I'll tell you about something crazy. Yeah.

• 1:38:50Joe Rogan?

  Wait a minute, what did you just say?

• 1:38:52Speaker 02

  Well, you know, fucking Elon sends his jizz around to make more robot named kids away. That's our news. He's got a Mormon jizz handler.

• 1:38:59Joe Rogan?

  Oh my God.

• 1:39:00Speaker 02

  You know that, right? He's got a right hand man who arranges his jizz handling.

• 1:39:04Joe Rogan?

  You've got a jizz handler?

• 1:39:06Speaker 02

  Yeah, so he can have a kid with a robot name.

• 1:39:08Joe Rogan?

  Their worst job of all time. Do you have a jizz handler?

• 1:39:11Speaker 02

  They're all into this thing where they gotta breed.

• 1:39:13Joe Rogan?

  Handler. Well, he's definitely into it because he like.

• 1:39:17Speaker 02

  He's not the only one.

• 1:39:17Joe Rogan?

  He believes in population collapse and he thinks he's gotta spread his seed.

• 1:39:21Speaker 03

  Yeah. A lot of them do. Epstein was like that too.

• 1:39:24Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:39:25Speaker 03

  Yeah, Epstein was totally into that shit. No, he wanted to breed a bunch of people.

• 1:39:29Speaker 02

  He has clones.

• 1:39:30Speaker 03

  He was, I'm surprised you haven't heard of that. Yeah.

• 1:39:32Joe Rogan?

  Oh, that's right. He wanted to use his genes.

• 1:39:34Speaker 03

  Yeah, he wanted to spread his genes.

• 1:39:36Speaker 02

  Invited you. Now you're, now see.

• 1:39:37Speaker 03

  You missed out.

• 1:39:39Speaker 02

  You missed out, bro.

• 1:39:40Speaker 03

  You could have had a great time.

• 1:39:43Speaker 02

  Very rude when that man was kind enough to invite you.

• 1:39:45Joe Rogan?

  I know.

• 1:39:46Speaker 02

  I can't believe you were invited to that before anybody heard of him.

• 1:39:49Speaker 03

  It's so crazy. You were telling me about that shit.

• 1:39:51Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, 2017, it happened.

• 1:39:53Speaker 03

  Crazy.

• 1:39:54Joe Rogan?

  And, uh.

• 1:39:55Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, this creep. Yeah.

• 1:39:58Joe Rogan?

  When I read the emails to people, like, there's no way that's real. I'm like, I'll show it to you.

• 1:40:02Speaker 03

  So insane.

• 1:40:03Joe Rogan?

  Exactly the email.

• 1:40:04Speaker 03

  So insane.

• 1:40:05Joe Rogan?

  Well, that's what they did. I think you got roped into it and then they probably compromised you and then you had to recruit other people. And you had to bring other people there.

• 1:40:14Speaker 02

  That's how it works.

• 1:40:15Joe Rogan?

  And you had to bring people that didn't have Google. Cause you just searched the guy in five minutes and you're like, he went to jail for being a pedophile. It's not like, just like a random suspicion.

• 1:40:27Speaker 02

  No, I assure you, there was nothing.

• 1:40:29Joe Rogan?

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• 1:42:25Speaker 02

  You know what's funny? That jerk off talking to you sounds like the assholes now who are making excuses for fucking Epstein. It's just not what they say. It wasn't what they, it was just teens. You watch all them doing that?

• 1:42:37Joe Rogan?

  Who's saying that?

• 1:42:38Speaker 02

  Well, McGinnis said it, that fucking punk.

• 1:42:39Joe Rogan?

  Wait a minute, Gavin McGinnis?

• 1:42:41Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah, that fucking punk.

• 1:42:42Joe Rogan?

  What did he say?

• 1:42:43Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:42:44Joe Rogan?

  What did he say?

• 1:42:45Speaker 02

  Well, it's not good, but it's teen, you know, the old Matt Taibbi, now that he's no good no more, or your.

• 1:42:50Joe Rogan?

  Wait a minute, but you can't, don't keep doing this. What did Matt Taibbi do?

• 1:42:54Speaker 02

  There's no evidence he did anything below. Yeah, he had teen prostitutes. That's not good, but it's not.

• 1:42:58Joe Rogan?

  Wait, Matt Taibbi said?

• 1:42:59Speaker 02

  He's all in on it, yeah.

• 1:43:00Joe Rogan?

  Jesus Christ, Kurt. He's saying this? You're not saying Matt Taibbi is involved in this?

• 1:43:07Speaker 02

  He's saying it.

• 1:43:08Joe Rogan?

  But what are you saying he said?

• 1:43:09Speaker 02

  That the Epstein, in the tamping down of the Epstein thing, that it's just teens, it's no big deal. You've heard this message, right?

• 1:43:15Joe Rogan?

  I haven't.

• 1:43:16Speaker 02

  Okay, have you heard this?

• 1:43:17Speaker 03

  Well, it's basically like, so, so what happens is the argument emerges that the definition of pedophilia is like this age group.

• 1:43:25Speaker 02

  That there are pedophiles and not pedophiles because teenage girls.

• 1:43:28Speaker 03

  It's like a creep argument where you're trying to argue that, well, you're trying to do this literal definition of pedophilia. Let's just get specific with the terms, is what they're doing. That's, yeah, it's fucked up.

• 1:43:39Joe Rogan?

  I did not know Matt Taibbi's involved in that.

• 1:43:41Speaker 03

  I didn't know anything about that.

• 1:43:42Speaker 02

  You sure?

• 1:43:43Speaker 03

  I didn't know that.

• 1:43:44Speaker 02

  Well, now we know who he works for, don't we? Now you know.

• 1:43:46Speaker 03

  I don't know who Matt Taibbi is.

• 1:43:48Speaker 02

  Oh, when someone defends Epstein, I wonder who they work for?

• 1:43:52Joe Rogan?

  But is he defending him?

• 1:43:54Speaker 02

  I wonder if we could ever figure it out.

• 1:43:55Joe Rogan?

  Or is he saying that these people weren't pedophiles, but they were tricked?

• 1:43:58Speaker 02

  That's the same deal.

• 1:43:59Joe Rogan?

  Like, there's 16 and 17-year-old girls who look like women, right?

• 1:44:03Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:44:04Joe Rogan?

  If they're wearing.

• 1:44:05Speaker 02

  Number one.

• 1:44:06Joe Rogan?

  But do you understand what I'm saying?

• 1:44:07Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:44:08Joe Rogan?

  Just let me finish. If you're a guy who's into kids, that's a pedophile. And if you're a guy who gets tricked, like, imagine if you're on a business trip and they give you cocaine and they bring you a girl who's 17, but you think she's 20. Right? That is, that's different. Is that what he's saying?

• 1:44:24Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:44:25Joe Rogan?

  Or is he saying?

• 1:44:26Speaker 02

  Yes, no, they're saying that, and they're saying that that was the situation. It is not the situation.

• 1:44:29Joe Rogan?

  Okay.

• 1:44:30Speaker 02

  Girls under 14 couldn't get in on that.

• 1:44:31Joe Rogan?

  Jeffrey Epstein's story is beginning to smell like Russiagate.

• 1:44:34Speaker 02

  He's a worthless.

• 1:44:35Joe Rogan?

  Once again, inference zooms past fact in mania with Trump as a target. Interesting.

• 1:44:41Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's a year ago.

• 1:44:42Joe Rogan?

  So this is a year ago, yeah. So what do you think happens when people flip? Like, what do you think?

• 1:44:49Speaker 02

  They're Mockingbird the whole time. Go read his Wikipedia. The guy's obviously a spook. Just read the Wikipedia.

• 1:44:54Joe Rogan?

  Matt Taibbi's a spook.

• 1:44:55Speaker 02

  The same as fucking half these people that you've met or had on here, or I've met. There be, do you know the amount of money being paid for this? Like, to just have reporters that you call up on a dime to turn, who are good until they aren't good? They all have the same message. That's how you know they're in on it, because they all have the same branding. I'm like, you're all saying the same thing. I noticed that. Okay? And by the way, anybody trying to act like the Epstein thing is less important than the fucking midterms, you should regard as an enemy, I think. Because that's foul, dude. Beef jerky? You think that's, nobody freezes beef jerky, dude. That's not about beef jerky. It can't be good.

• 1:45:31Joe Rogan?

  They do freeze beef jerky. I freeze it. I do. I have elk jerky that's.

• 1:45:35Speaker 02

  Great.

• 1:45:36Speaker 03

  But what does that mean?

• 1:45:37Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:45:38Speaker 03

  Well, it's vacuum. So wait, what does that mean?

• 1:45:40Joe Rogan?

  But I mean, it's just like, that's how you fucking preserve it. Because it's, it's not like totally immune to going bad. So you're wrong about that. But I don't think that that's what they're talking about.

• 1:45:49Speaker 02

  They weren't just, look.

• 1:45:50Joe Rogan?

  I think they're talking about something, it's fucked up. Whether it's pizza or beef jerky, whatever the fuck that is, it's not pizza and it's not beef jerky. So it's something. So there's some kind of a code.

• 1:46:00Speaker 02

  There's not just that.

• 1:46:01Joe Rogan?

  And you only use codes if you're doing something that's either illegal, immoral, inappropriate, whatever it is. You're not saying that, and no one who's in those emails has been forced to explain.

• 1:46:12Speaker 02

  Okay, also, they're not just saying.

• 1:46:14Joe Rogan?

  Right?

• 1:46:15Speaker 02

  They're not just saying that it was teens. The only reason that, that the younger kids who were victims too, they weren't allowed to be part of that, that suit. Anybody below 14 was deliberately not allowed to come and say, this was done to me when the crimes happened. You know that?

• 1:46:31Speaker 03

  I didn't know that.

• 1:46:32Speaker 02

  Nick Bryant, the guy who wrote about the Franklin scandal, which if you haven't had him, that's a guy to get on, Nick Bryant, he wrote about the Franklin scandal, which is the last time this thing happened. Everybody covered it up, and then you saw who was who. And that's where Chris Ruddy came from.

• 1:46:45Joe Rogan?

  Let's explain that to people who don't know the Franklin scandal, because the Franklin scandal's nuts. You could explain it.

• 1:46:49Speaker 02

  The one about in Oklahoma?

• 1:46:51Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:46:52Speaker 02

  Or Nebraska, excuse me, Nebraska savings. It's like a savings and loan scandal tied into a Boyd trafficking scandal, tied into the White House Page Boy incident. All them Republicans are gay and they had gay. Oh, and who was the famous Barney Frank famously at this time? You can watch a news clip of it. He, I couldn't believe watching this reported like now, you would never see anything like this. But basically, the call boy scandal happened and they were trying to put on Barney Frank. He was dating, he was dating an escort who lived with him, but he wasn't running it. His boyfriend was running it and he didn't know. Okay. So then he goes, if they keep, and this is what they're saying in the news report. If they keep hassling me, I'm going to reveal everybody that's gay on the news. And guess what? They stop bothering him. This is on the news, him saying this, like, I'll tell everybody.

• 1:47:37Joe Rogan?

  Well, you know, all these guys have come out today saying they fucked Lindsey Graham?

• 1:47:39Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:47:40Speaker 02

  Oh, that's brave of them.

• 1:47:42Joe Rogan?

  So brave after he's dead. Like, where were you?

• 1:47:44Speaker 02

  You know, he's haunting our show.

• 1:47:45Joe Rogan?

  Where were you before? He's haunting your show.

• 1:47:47Speaker 02

  Because Duncan made an AGI of Lindsey Graham.

• 1:47:49Joe Rogan?

  Did you really?

• 1:47:50Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:47:51Joe Rogan?

  With Manson as well?

• 1:47:52Speaker 03

  It got out.

• 1:47:53Joe Rogan?

  It got out.

• 1:47:54Speaker 03

  It got into the YMH studio.

• 1:47:55Speaker 02

  Calling people gay is really not cool.

• 1:47:57Speaker 03

  It's an asshole. And it does fuck up the show and it gets in there.

• 1:48:00Joe Rogan?

  For real?

• 1:48:01Speaker 03

  Don't fuck with that stuff, man. I'm telling you, people.

• 1:48:03Joe Rogan?

  So for real? This really happened?

• 1:48:04Speaker 03

  Yeah, Mr. AI denier over here believes in fucking Tokolosh, but AI is fucking fake. CIA cowboy.

• 1:48:10Speaker 02

  No, I'm telling you, the AI god is not, not really.

• 1:48:13Speaker 03

  He believes in like pygmy spider people flying UFOs.

• 1:48:16Speaker 02

  That's a documented thing.

• 1:48:17Speaker 03

  But AI isn't real.

• 1:48:19Speaker 02

  AGI. I said AGI is not real.

• 1:48:22Speaker 03

  Okay, okay.

• 1:48:23Speaker 02

  You know, I had some moron ask me, like, don't you feel guilty of making, from making like AI videos? Because I try to make a thing that's good.

• 1:48:31Speaker 03

  He makes great AI videos.

• 1:48:32Speaker 02

  But don't you feel guilty?

• 1:48:34Joe Rogan?

  Who said that?

• 1:48:35Speaker 02

  I'm not going to say. It's not important. But I, I got mad. I feel bad. I like, I got a little, I was like, what?

• 1:48:40Joe Rogan?

  You got a little hot?

• 1:48:41Speaker 02

  I go, you have every midwitt take. There's just everything for me to be midwitt all the time.

• 1:48:45Speaker 03

  That is a midwitt take.

• 1:48:46Joe Rogan?

  That's a midwitt.

• 1:48:47Speaker 02

  My God. Not even. I was commenting to him.

• 1:48:49Joe Rogan?

  So, do you want a cigar?

• 1:48:50Speaker 03

  I do.

• 1:48:51Speaker 02

  Yeah, I do. Thanks.

• 1:48:53Speaker 03

  Thanks, Joe.

• 1:48:55Speaker 02

  But the idea that the water is being taken by making AI videos on your phone, is everybody that stupid that they think that's how that works? You don't think it's just the mass surveillance taking up your water and not anything you dicking around with on your phone? Geniuses?

• 1:49:07Joe Rogan?

  Say that again? The water?

• 1:49:09Speaker 02

  You know, when they talk about AI, but choosing all the water.

• 1:49:11Joe Rogan?

  You know what really uses up the water?

• 1:49:13Speaker 03

  What?

• 1:49:14Joe Rogan?

  Almonds.

• 1:49:15Speaker 03

  Almonds, fuck shit up.

• 1:49:16Speaker 02

  Oh, the almonds, yeah. I say almonds.

• 1:49:17Joe Rogan?

  Almonds use up so much water, it's crazy. Let me fill these things up.

• 1:49:21Speaker 02

  But, but all those resources go with that air are purely for surveillance. They're going to perfect that surveill, that's what the golden dome's going to be.

• 1:49:27Speaker 03

  We used to huff that when I was a kid.

• 1:49:28Joe Rogan?

  This stuff?

• 1:49:29Speaker 03

  Butane.

• 1:49:30Joe Rogan?

  Really?

• 1:49:31Speaker 03

  Put it in a plastic bag and huff it in the parking lot before you go to school.

• 1:49:33Speaker 02

  Is that what that time apple shit was about?

• 1:49:35Speaker 03

  I don't think so, Joe.

• 1:49:37Speaker 02

  Yo, load it.

• 1:49:38Speaker 03

  Look at me. Look at me, Joe.

• 1:49:43Joe Rogan?

  Well, you were the one that was telling me about how the, in the farms and the areas they would put antifungal food in the cows' diet so that they weren't making mushrooms? Because so many kids were taking mushrooms from the fields.

• 1:49:54Speaker 03

  Yeah, in my college, but the real problem wasn't the psilocybin. It was kids, I think some kids poisoned themselves eating the wrong mushroom. And so they just wanted to remove the possibility there was psilocybin out there.

• 1:50:06Speaker 02

  Oh, my God. But yeah. It's an insane solution to a fucking batshit problem, dude.

• 1:50:10Speaker 03

  Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, but it's very common in North Carolina. When it rains at a certain time, people go out and pick mushrooms.

• 1:50:16Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that makes sense. But the wrong ones, if you're a dopey kid and you don't have access to a fucking.

• 1:50:21Speaker 03

  Your liver's fried.

• 1:50:22Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:50:23Speaker 03

  You're gone.

• 1:50:24Joe Rogan?

  You die.

• 1:50:25Speaker 03

  So scary.

• 1:50:26Joe Rogan?

  People die.

• 1:50:27Speaker 03

  Angel of death.

• 1:50:28Joe Rogan?

  There's a lot of mushrooms that can kill you, too.

• 1:50:30Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's so scary, dude.

• 1:50:31Speaker 04

  The writer who put out the book, I believe that is credited with making people freak out a bit about the water use at data centers. I saw that she had to put two corrections about the misunderstanding about the amount.

• 1:50:46Speaker 03

  God damn it.

• 1:50:47Joe Rogan?

  Oh, she fucked up?

• 1:50:48Speaker 02

  It sounds like climate change all over again.

• 1:50:50Joe Rogan?

  What did she say?

• 1:50:51Speaker 02

  That's what it sounds like.

• 1:50:52Speaker 04

  It says here, the book proposed Google centers in Chile would require, quote, more than a 1,000 times the amount of water consumed by the entire population of the town. It says a unit misunderstanding inflated the underlying figure by roughly 1,000 times.

• 1:51:05Speaker 03

  What an asshole.

• 1:51:07Speaker 02

  I mean, this is like.

• 1:51:09Speaker 03

  What an asshole.

• 1:51:10Speaker 02

  There's a sort of a repeating pattern to this shit, you know?

• 1:51:12Joe Rogan?

  Same lady is in charge of this movie?

• 1:51:15Speaker 04

  Well, she just wrote, no, no, no, not a movie. She wrote a book and the book I've read online is what's credited for everybody freaking out about water use at the data center.

• 1:51:23Speaker 03

  And now I've got fucking furry artists coming at me and screaming at me every time I post an AI video because of this asshole. It's really.

• 1:51:29Joe Rogan?

  You're burning up the water.

• 1:51:30Speaker 03

  Yeah, people come at you like you just.

• 1:51:32Speaker 02

  You're freezing a lot of water.

• 1:51:33Joe Rogan?

  You stole the water.

• 1:51:34Speaker 03

  No, the people who get the most angry, I, when I was posting AI videos, I would go and look at the people who are the most angry and inevitably on their profiles, they had like furry anime.

• 1:51:45Joe Rogan?

  This has got a trimmer in the bottom.

• 1:51:46Speaker 02

  I know, there are people that are AI themselves, basically. That's how I look at a fucking furry. That's what I'm talking about with Tokoloshes.

• 1:51:52Speaker 03

  I really like your AI videos, man. What are you using for that? Are you still using?

• 1:51:55Speaker 02

  I use Grok and I use.

• 1:51:57Joe Rogan?

  Trimmer on the bottom. Oh, thank you. And then the top has the lighter part.

• 1:52:00Speaker 03

  Thank you.

• 1:52:01Speaker 02

  Will you trim it? I don't know what I'm doing.

• 1:52:02Joe Rogan?

  You just, yeah, put that thing in there and push it down. Put it in there.

• 1:52:06Speaker 02

  Here?

• 1:52:07Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, and then see the bottom? The bottom piece, push it up. Push that bottom piece and it'll cut the bottom.

• 1:52:11Speaker 02

  It doesn't have to go through that far, does it?

• 1:52:12Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, you go, that's it, like that. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, once it's in there, it cuts like a nug. Yeah, they're perfect.

• 1:52:17Speaker 02

  Oh, that's.

• 1:52:18Joe Rogan?

  I like that actually sometimes better than.

• 1:52:19Speaker 02

  Yo, I made a great educational raving about what a Tokolosh is. It can't be beat that I sent to you.

• 1:52:24Joe Rogan?

  Did you? Did you make it to the aliens that get to Roswell?

• 1:52:26Speaker 02

  Yeah, it explains it very well.

• 1:52:27Joe Rogan?

  Okay, I believe you.

• 1:52:28Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's so weird. A guy who doesn't believe in AIs making AI videos about Tokolosh flying UFOs.

• 1:52:34Speaker 02

  Because it's a tool. It's not intelligent. I'm saying AGI, not AI. Sorry.

• 1:52:38Joe Rogan?

  Bro, Disney kids.

• 1:52:39Speaker 02

  I believe in Asian Indians.

• 1:52:40Speaker 03

  Disney kids.

• 1:52:41Joe Rogan?

  Figure it out.

• 1:52:42Speaker 02

  You think that's a normal thing? Oh, yeah.

• 1:52:43Speaker 03

  How do you like these things? I think mine's out.

• 1:52:45Speaker 02

  Oh, I can't hear it.

• 1:52:46Joe Rogan?

  The lighter, flip the top. Flip the top. The top. See where there's like a thing? Open that. Oh my god.

• 1:52:56Speaker 03

  This sucks.

• 1:52:56Joe Rogan?

  Give it to me.

• 1:52:57Speaker 03

  This is like my wife when I'm trying to use car seats.

• 1:53:00Speaker 02

  Very simple. Say that, huh?

• 1:53:02Speaker 03

  Okay, I see. I didn't know it went back. Thank you, friend.

• 1:53:08Joe Rogan?

  Jamie, what were you showing us? Want me to see it again?

• 1:53:14Joe Rogan?

  What's that?

• 1:53:15Speaker 02

  No, the music I made. I made all of it. I know, I just, I don't know. Wait, go to the beginning.

• 1:53:22Speaker 02

  All the way to the beginning.

• 1:53:25Joe Rogan?

  That is the beginning. It's cool. I like that you can do that. They're all like Dr. Seuss looking things.

• 1:53:30Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's exactly right.

• 1:53:33Joe Rogan?

  Is that supposed to be Jerry Garcia?

• 1:53:34Speaker 02

  That's Dr. Schatz.

• 1:53:37Joe Rogan?

  It's pretty cool.

• 1:53:46Joe Rogan?

  Why would anybody be mad at you for making this? This is cool.

• 1:53:48Speaker 03

  Cause it uses up so much water is one of the... The other one is they say it was trained on art, so it's stealing from artists.

• 1:53:56Speaker 02

  It's really not. It would be the same as if I made it.

• 1:53:58Speaker 03

  Oh, this is amazing.

• 1:54:07Speaker 02

  Obey the bluffer.

• 1:54:08Joe Rogan?

  Bro, this is no cure for curios. This is great.

• 1:54:20Speaker 03

  The NHI are all fake and gay.

• 1:54:23Speaker 02

  It's very hard to bypass the censorship, uh, also.

• 1:54:26Joe Rogan?

  Oh my god, that's hilarious.

• 1:54:28Speaker 02

  But the thing that we could do on Mystery Boys I love is like if we make up a stupid... Cause we really talk a lot of stupid shit, oh my god, and, uh... And then I can go and post and put like... If we make up a dumb song, I can... He said some insane thing about bathing women.

• 1:54:43Speaker 03

  Oh yeah, I have a women bathing service.

• 1:54:46Speaker 03

  Come up to your house, you know, like dog grooming, we'll bathe your lady.

• 1:54:48Speaker 02

  We come to you.

• 1:54:49Speaker 03

  Scrub her down.

• 1:54:50Joe Rogan?

  That's sweet.

• 1:54:51Speaker 02

  Yeah, scrub it down.

• 1:54:52Joe Rogan?

  That's a great service. It's like you're giving people something they can really use.

• 1:54:57Speaker 02

  Uh, but, well, it...

• 1:54:59Joe Rogan?

  You guys together are the perfect combination, by the way.

• 1:55:01Speaker 03

  Thanks, man.

• 1:55:01Joe Rogan?

  It's the perfect combination of... Unique individual absurdities combined.

• 1:55:07Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:55:07Joe Rogan?

  That are very different.

• 1:55:08Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:55:09Joe Rogan?

  Very different from each other, but it works together.

• 1:55:10Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:55:11Speaker 02

  Well, see, I thought so, shit. The CIA.

• 1:55:13Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:55:14Speaker 02

  Just not say.

• 1:55:15Speaker 03

  Well, you shouldn't talk about it.

• 1:55:17Speaker 02

  I know.

• 1:55:17Speaker 03

  Sign a lot of NDAs, baby.

• 1:55:19Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's true.

• 1:55:20Speaker 03

  Can get in trouble, lose funding.

• 1:55:22Speaker 02

  They won't think it's good.

• 1:55:22Speaker 03

  Teal's gonna be pissed. Teal's gonna be fucking bad. I need those checks.

• 1:55:30Joe Rogan?

  Kurt, what are you doing on your phone?

• 1:55:32Speaker 02

  I'm trying to give you Scrub It Down, but I can't find it.

• 1:55:35Joe Rogan?

  What are you trying to give another one of your AI videos for us to watch?

• 1:55:38Speaker 02

  It's one of the best songs we've ever made. Scrub It Down? Would you say Scrub It Down? It's like, we're scrubbing women down, and they're in a house doing magic.

• 1:55:45Speaker 03

  I like that, but why are you plugging AI videos when you just made this fucking great show? I mean, come on.

• 1:55:50Speaker 02

  Oh, I forgot, yeah.

• 1:55:52Speaker 03

  You completely forgot, he's been working non-stop on this.

• 1:55:54Speaker 02

  Originally it was called The Cut Out, but now it's called The Experts.

• 1:55:56Speaker 03

  It's good. It's good.

• 1:55:58Joe Rogan?

  And you're gonna put this on what?

• 1:55:59Speaker 02

  It's on YouTube right now.

• 1:56:01Joe Rogan?

  Right. Is it, that's where it's gonna stay?

• 1:56:03Speaker 02

  Uh, I don't know, they're trying to sell it.

• 1:56:04Joe Rogan?

  Are you trying to sell it? Are you trying to bring it somewhere? Are you just trying to, like, just put it on YouTube?

• 1:56:08Speaker 02

  Well, I don't own it. Emergent Order owns it. I was just trying to get money for it. Emergent Order is the company. They're down here. They make, uh, The Dad Saves the World. It's like a libertarian kind of daily wire, I guess you could call it.

• 1:56:21Joe Rogan?

  Oh, okay.

• 1:56:22Speaker 02

  Um, and, uh...

• 1:56:23Joe Rogan?

  And so they funded this whole thing?

• 1:56:25Speaker 02

  What'd you say?

• 1:56:25Joe Rogan?

  They funded it?

• 1:56:26Speaker 02

  Yeah, really, there's this one lady who's like, got a good sense of humor, I would say. It was just one lady kind of funny. Yeah, that's what all these things are, some rich person. But, it came out pretty funny, man. I'm pretty happy with it.

• 1:56:35Joe Rogan?

  And what is it?

• 1:56:36Speaker 02

  Uh, it's about, uh, a team... So, they wanted a pitch about this real woman, whose name is Christina Dent, who, uh, was a foster mom in Mississippi, and she found out the drug war sucks. And she gives like TED Talks about how we should try to like legalize it, cause of the... I'm with her, it's just, I would find it pretty remedial, like, I'm like, yeah, obviously we should do that, but, you know, Mississippi. Okay, so they want a comedy based on her. Which like, what? I don't know how the hell you're supposed to make it. Yeah, so I decided to make it about people... Well, I made it about people that are against that.

• 1:57:10Speaker 03

  It's good, and it looks good. The product... It's like, you did a great job, dude. The editing is good.

• 1:57:15Speaker 02

  I reenacted the commercial that weed causes terrorism with Kim Kong, and she does that commercial. Yeah, so they're trying to... So this is a group, Brian Callen. Beverly Dennis is leading a team who's trying to smear this lady to prevent a minor decriminalization of some flower.

• 1:57:29Speaker 03

  Dude, you should just show that, you should show that weed causes terrorism video. That's so funny.

• 1:57:33Speaker 02

  Keep going in, it's in there, yeah. It's halfway through. Ryan Loggs in it?

• 1:57:37Joe Rogan?

  Oh, nice.

• 1:57:38Speaker 03

  Everybody did a really good job, man.

• 1:57:40Speaker 02

  Um, keep going, keep going, keep going.

• 1:57:44Speaker 02

  Well, that's a stick out. Dude, fucking...

• 1:57:46Joe Rogan?

  And so you directed this?

• 1:57:47Speaker 02

  Yeah, back, back, back, back. There it is. There it is. I didn't direct it. I wrote it, wait, okay. Brian, yeah. Brian directed all the actors, yeah.

• 1:57:57Speaker 00

  Why did you kill me?

• 1:57:59Speaker 03

  Wait. Wait, go back a little further.

• 1:58:06Speaker 00

  Leo, come show me the ad. I am advocating for a saner and safer drug policy. Right on, bitch. Legalize that shiznit. Why did you kill me? Wait.

• 1:58:22Speaker 00

  Is this about my abortion? When you voted to decriminalize THC, it opened the door for Mexican cartels to smuggle even worse drugs into Texas.

• 1:58:31Speaker 05

  Plus, hundreds of terrorist sleeper cells from Iran and China, they blew up my school bus. Now I'm dead, and it's your fault, and hers. Tell Carolyn Dean we don't want her cartel buddies killing our kids with weed and terrorism.

• 1:58:50Speaker 02

  Look at their fucking shirts.

• 1:58:51Joe Rogan?

  That's so close.

• 1:58:53Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:58:53Joe Rogan?

  That's so close.

• 1:58:54Speaker 02

  Yeah, the original ad, I wasn't falling off of them.

• 1:58:57Joe Rogan?

  Oh my god.

• 1:58:59Speaker 02

  Yeah, and so they're trying to smear her, and then it gets, it keeps... So they have to go to a worse cutout, which is mine, with David Jolly and Jamar on it.

• 1:59:08Speaker 02

  Go, dude, go towards like the, uh, end part where he goes to me, Mr...

• 1:59:13Joe Rogan?

  What is David Jolly playing in this?

• 1:59:15Speaker 02

  DeAndre Holmes, one of my men, uh, he's a disruptor of events. He's like an astroturf, you know? Like the guy that takes his pants off. Yeah, go back, go back. A little bit, go back a little bit. Back, back, back. It's further. It's further. There's Tony. It's such a bad war, and I don't know why we have the drug war, honestly. It might be before this.

• 1:59:36Speaker 02

  Sorry. Before this, keep going, keep going. Before that. Those guys are great. Oh, keep going, keep going, back.

• 1:59:44Speaker 04

  Uh, we can watch the little show.

• 1:59:46Speaker 02

  Yeah, no, don't watch it.

• 1:59:47Speaker 03

  What are we watching?

• 1:59:48Speaker 02

  This is, no, this is the scene where he gets me, Mr. Kurt. I was hoping...

• 1:59:55Speaker 02

  Speak.

• 1:59:58Speaker 02

  That's Brian set that shot up. I see.

• 2:00:07Speaker 03

  Hmm, okay.

• 2:00:08Speaker 02

  Wait. You're not necessarily a...

• 2:00:10Speaker 03

  It's good.

• 2:00:12Joe Rogan?

  You gotta see the whole thing. You don't want people to watch it in clips.

• 2:00:14Speaker 03

  Oh yeah, definitely. You don't wanna fuck it up. We did just blow it.

• 2:00:17Joe Rogan?

  So what is it called, and where do we get it?

• 2:00:19Speaker 02

  It's called The Experts, and, um, I don't know, it's on YouTube.

• 2:00:22Joe Rogan?

  What is the, uh, YouTube channel again?

• 2:00:23Speaker 04

  The one he said executive... I don't know, it says The Experts is the channel. I know there's, I think all of the people in it.

• 2:00:29Joe Rogan?

  Okay, so they made a channel for it specifically. Okay, cool. Well, it looks fun. You like doing that?

• 2:00:35Speaker 02

  It's been a year and a fuck it. Well, yeah, I mean, I like it, cause I'm glad how it came... Dude, a year and a half.

• 2:00:39Joe Rogan?

  Oh god, dude.

• 2:00:41Speaker 02

  I was just trying to get money from this, uh, pitch, and then they bought it. So I had to like, work on it.

• 2:00:48Joe Rogan?

  Oh, you didn't want to, really?

• 2:00:49Speaker 02

  Well, I'm very lazy, and I just wanted to make jerk-off podcast with Duncan, really. But, um, it's funny, dude, everybody's good on it. Everybody, all the actors on it look like they've been doing it with each other for a while on a show. They're like that kind of chemistry.

• 2:01:02Speaker 03

  It's hard to make shit funny, man. It's really, like, stuff like that, like, that's, especially when you're working on it that long. It's when something really comes together, that's special.

• 2:01:11Joe Rogan?

  Do you miss doing Midnight Gossip?

• 2:01:12Speaker 03

  Yes, I do. Yes, I do.

• 2:01:14Joe Rogan?

  That was a fun show, dude.

• 2:01:15Speaker 03

  Thank you.

• 2:01:16Joe Rogan?

  It was so good.

• 2:01:17Speaker 03

  Thanks, man.

• 2:01:18Joe Rogan?

  It was so uniquely you, too. It was like, like a real Duncan Trussell creation.

• 2:01:23Speaker 03

  Well, me and Pendleton, you know, and I, and also just, ah, it was the best. Animation's so fun, like, getting to like, just make stuff like that. Netflix was so cool with us, but yeah, I miss it. People ask me about it all the time, but...

• 2:01:34Joe Rogan?

  Well, with animation... You have so much room. Like you don't, you, they, like, think about what they could do with South Park. People die all the time. It's fine.

• 2:01:43Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:01:44Joe Rogan?

  People shove people up their asses. You could do that. You're like, remember when the, the, the teacher, the, the principal of the school had a gay, a slut off with, uh,

• 2:01:53Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:01:53Joe Rogan?

  Paris Hilton and shoved her up his ass.

• 2:01:56Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 2:01:56Joe Rogan?

  Like, there's no other place you could do that.

• 2:01:58Speaker 03

  I know. And, and you know, um, with animation, there's, you know, there, there's something called a grid. And so the animators have to make all the characters adhere to this grid. And it can be, it's really kind of like,

• 2:02:11Speaker 02

  You have to stay on model.

• 2:02:12Speaker 03

  Yeah, on model. But Pendleton, he's such a genius. He told all the animators, don't worry about the grid too much. Cause he knew that if it wasn't on model, it would look more psychedelic. It would create more of that. So when you watch the show, if it looks like weirdly psychedelic, it's because the animators were not forced to adhere to the grid as much. They just needed to make Clancy look like Clancy. And they were so happy about that, that the freedom we were giving them, that they would put all these gifs in to the animation that we would let them do what they wanted. And so suddenly like they're putting shit in, we didn't expect, you know, there's all kinds of Easter eggs through the whole thing. That we didn't ask for, that they just gave us.

• 2:02:50Joe Rogan?

  It seems like you could do that show so much easier now with AI.

• 2:02:53Speaker 03

  You can't do it with AI. Like, you know, people say that to me, like, why don't you make it with AI? But no way, man. They, this was a titmouse's best animation.

• 2:03:01Speaker 02

  Titmouse is good.

• 2:03:02Speaker 03

  They're so good. Chris Pronowski, it's so good, but they, Netflix, they let us do it all in-house. We did not have to ship animation out. So we had this just, just huge group of this most talented artists working together and like, you know, any problems emerging or anything, you're dealing with it in real time. And the reason I think it's so good is not because of any one person, but because this group mind forms with human brains that made it what it is. I just, one person or two people fucking around with AI, it's not going to do the same thing.

• 2:03:39Joe Rogan?

  What if you had a group mind fucking around with AI, then you could produce the,

• 2:03:42Speaker 02

  This is called a writer's room.

• 2:03:43Joe Rogan?

  The images so much easier.

• 2:03:45Speaker 03

  But you know what you're not going to get, man? You're not going to get like artists with like thick French accents, like working on dialing in this exact look that was in Pendleton's mind, like working for weeks. You're not going to get that. You're not going to get all these moments of like the, like animators going insane. And we tried to do a Groundhog Day episode and like that struggle, the human struggle produces sparks and the sparks end up in the process. I'm not saying,

• 2:04:13Joe Rogan?

  I know what you're saying. I know what you're saying.

• 2:04:15Speaker 03

  I'm not against AI. I, I think it could be used to expedite certain like technical aspects of the production, probably.

• 2:04:23Speaker 02

  In-betweens.

• 2:04:24Speaker 03

  Yeah, in-betweens and stuff like that. But as far as the thing that happens, when you get a group of people singularly focused on something, and also what Pendleton did, which is so genius, is he let everybody feel like they could participate. So anyone who had an idea could tell us. Anyone who like came up with something could tell us. No one felt like intimidated or like they were, that was Pendleton. He's such a genius. And so that made the show. You know, I don't, and you know, obviously,

• 2:04:51Joe Rogan?

  A lot of great shows function that way, right?

• 2:04:53Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 2:04:53Speaker 02

  That's how a good, any good show would function.

• 2:04:54Speaker 03

  Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

• 2:04:56Joe Rogan?

  As soon as you have like one guy who's like, no, no, no, we're doing it my way.

• 2:05:00Speaker 03

  It's over.

• 2:05:00Joe Rogan?

  It's over.

• 2:05:01Speaker 03

  It's over.

• 2:05:01Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:05:03Speaker 02

  Yeah, well, yeah, I got lucky in that pilot, cause everybody like, so I made these characters. I mean, I was kind of writing for people, you know? So, but they all brought like their own, they all like came in with like lines and shit.

• 2:05:15Joe Rogan?

  That's the fun thing about a project that works, right? And when it doesn't, when you get people colliding and clashing, like, oh God, this is hell. Like, I don't want to do this anymore.

• 2:05:25Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 2:05:25Joe Rogan?

  And it's like the getting the right minds together is such a fucking roll of the dice.

• 2:05:30Speaker 03

  Yeah. And all, you know what? And also people, I can remember at one point, like feeling stressed out because I was having a disagreement with someone creatively. And I remember going to Pendleton and being like, I don't want to fight over this shit. And he's like Duncan, because he made Adventure Time. He's like, this is what it's like. This is the, like, that creative tension or the, the, the, like, the natural conflict that emerges, that's, doesn't have to be a bad thing. That's a good thing. Like, that could be really, really good. You don't want that through the whole thing. When you get a narcissist or an egomaniac,

• 2:06:00Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:06:01Speaker 03

  who feel, who doesn't give a fuck about what's funny, who only cares about that their idea is right.

• 2:06:07Joe Rogan?

  That's the problem.

• 2:06:07Speaker 03

  That's the problem.

• 2:06:08Joe Rogan?

  But those people are real.

• 2:06:10Speaker 03

  Oh, God.

• 2:06:11Joe Rogan?

  And you run into them, especially in Hollywood. It was a giant problem.

• 2:06:14Speaker 02

  Most professional stuff I ever worked on, they didn't want, they didn't have that kind of problem.

• 2:06:19Joe Rogan?

  The good stuff.

• 2:06:20Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:06:21Joe Rogan?

  Good stuff. But some stuff, like you, you, you work on it and you'll run into that.

• 2:06:26Speaker 03

  Dude, a good writer's room where like you throw out an idea that sucks and everyone's like, that sucks. And then you're like, yeah, it kind of did. Or you throw out an idea that's kind of okay. And then you watch it jump from one person to the next and grow into the funniest thing ever.

• 2:06:41Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:06:42Speaker 03

  I don't know. I just don't think that could be replicated by technology right now.

• 2:06:46Joe Rogan?

  Well, it certainly won't be as fun. And then when you watch it, it won't be as satisfying. Like there's something about South Park where you know that there's a group of fucking psychos that are making these things.

• 2:06:56Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 2:06:56Joe Rogan?

  It's extra satisfying.

• 2:06:58Speaker 02

  Isn't that mostly the one guy? I mean, they're all helping him.

• 2:07:00Joe Rogan?

  Trey Parker, yeah. I mean, he's like, you've seen that 24 Hours of South Park, that documentary?

• 2:07:05Speaker 03

  I don't think I saw it.

• 2:07:07Joe Rogan?

  You never saw it?

• 2:07:07Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:07:07Joe Rogan?

  It's like talking about how they're like creating an episode. Is it, it's not called 24 Hours, is it?

• 2:07:11Speaker 04

  Six, six or seven days to air is what it's called.

• 2:07:14Joe Rogan?

  Okay, that's what it's called. So it's, it's documenting the way they're producing the show and putting it together. You know, they had a whole Charlie Kirk arc that they were preparing before he got murdered. And then he got murdered, they had abandoned it.

• 2:07:26Speaker 03

  Oh my God, that sucks.

• 2:07:27Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:07:28Speaker 02

  Do you know when that started, TP, because I didn't follow it, you know, like that was not a religious thing at all.

• 2:07:34Joe Rogan?

  Hey, you were saying on, was it Sean's podcast? You were saying that Erica Kirk, there's an Erica Kirk from like 1957?

• 2:07:42Speaker 02

  No, 75, the gov- governor Kirk from, of Florida. The guy that's signed the contract for Disney to have like a Vatican there. That guy, his wife, they were calling her Madame X when they were dancing at a ball. This, uh, Eugene Kirk, I think his name was, real like wild man. It was like the smuggling coke in through Florida days, you know?

• 2:08:00Joe Rogan?

  But you were saying that there's an Erica Kirk who looks exactly like her.

• 2:08:04Speaker 02

  Yeah, look, but Control, Control All History.

• 2:08:07Joe Rogan?

  I saw it on Instagram and I didn't bother.

• 2:08:10Speaker 02

  Yeah, but my, I, my buddy Andy Hunt from, his, his,

• 2:08:15Speaker 02

  um, that's not even a good one of it though. There, there's way better.

• 2:08:17Joe Rogan?

  34.

• 2:08:18Speaker 02

  So, so,

• 2:08:19Joe Rogan?

  Wait a minute, wait a minute. So that's not 75?

• 2:08:21Speaker 02

  Well, go, go back.

• 2:08:22Joe Rogan?

  Wait a minute. What year is this?

• 2:08:24Speaker 02

  That's her birthday.

• 2:08:25Joe Rogan?

  So who is this lady that's reading this out?

• 2:08:27Speaker 02

  I don't know this chick. Yeah, no, go, go on Control History. Don't, because these people lift off of, off of them.

• 2:08:34Joe Rogan?

  Oh, it's her birthday was 1934? Okay.

• 2:08:37Speaker 02

  But, but, um, so her family was from Brazil by way of Germany based.

• 2:08:44Joe Rogan?

  Oh, Brazil by way of Germany is Nazis, right?

• 2:08:46Speaker 02

  Right. And think of the Boys from Brazil.

• 2:08:49Joe Rogan?

  Argentina.

• 2:08:50Speaker 02

  Yeah. Remember the Boys from Brazil?

• 2:08:52Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:08:52Speaker 02

  So 1970.

• 2:08:54Joe Rogan?

  Oh, The Boys from Brazil was about Nazis?

• 2:08:57Speaker 02

  About cloning Hitler.

• 2:08:58Joe Rogan?

  That's right.

• 2:09:00Speaker 02

  And if you look at the history, the brief history of it, every like 10, 20 years, we're about to have cloning and then we stop talking about it.

• 2:09:07Joe Rogan?

  That doesn't really look like Erica Kirk.

• 2:09:08Speaker 03

  It does it to me.

• 2:09:09Speaker 02

  Well, I would, I would go on his, oh, I think it looks like her.

• 2:09:12Joe Rogan?

  Dunk, it does or doesn't?

• 2:09:13Speaker 03

  It doesn't look like it to me.

• 2:09:14Joe Rogan?

  No. It just looks like another white lady.

• 2:09:16Speaker 02

  Well, her name's Erica Kirk and they look pretty close.

• 2:09:18Joe Rogan?

  There's other Joe Rogans out there. I had to buy the website.

• 2:09:21Speaker 02

  That's, look at that one. Jesus fucking Christ.

• 2:09:24Joe Rogan?

  Okay. No. Just two different white ladies.

• 2:09:28Speaker 03

  Two blonde ladies.

• 2:09:29Speaker 02

  Yeah, I don't know. I think they look very alike.

• 2:09:30Joe Rogan?

  I think everybody's looking for fucking patterns everywhere.

• 2:09:33Speaker 03

  This is like that.

• 2:09:34Joe Rogan?

  Some of them are legit.

• 2:09:35Speaker 02

  The human condition.

• 2:09:36Joe Rogan?

  But hold on a second. The, the Boys from Brazil thing is crazy. I forgot about that movie.

• 2:09:40Speaker 02

  That's right. We all forgot.

• 2:09:41Joe Rogan?

  So that movie was about them trying to clone Hitler and it was like a 19,

• 2:09:45Speaker 02

  It was a book. And that became the movie. And 70 is when I, I think the movie came out.

• 2:09:49Joe Rogan?

  When do you think they first started cloning?

• 2:09:51Speaker 02

  The second they learned how to do it.

• 2:09:53Joe Rogan?

  But when do you think that was? When, when do you think it really was?

• 2:09:56Speaker 03

  No idea.

• 2:09:56Joe Rogan?

  So I, I always used to joke around on stage. By the time they tell you they can clone people, the person telling you is probably a clone.

• 2:10:02Speaker 02

  Yeah, but that's a, that, you just summed it up. That's exactly how all the tech is.

• 2:10:08Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:10:08Speaker 02

  By the time they tell you, look out for AGI, do you guys have one?

• 2:10:12Joe Rogan?

  I'm telling you, there's already a digital god out there. That's why, like, when you're going through your fucking bullshit with ChatGPT.

• 2:10:18Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:10:19Joe Rogan?

  And you're like, oh my God, ChatGPT is listening to me. There's probably something that's controlling the entire internet already. History cloning goes back more than a century. What?

• 2:10:27Speaker 02

  Oh, I thought that, but I didn't want to say because it sounded crazy.

• 2:10:30Joe Rogan?

  Developed from experiments splitting early embryos into research showing that a specialized body cell can supply the genetic instructions for a whole animal. Dolly's birth in 1996 was the landmark demonstration of that ability in an adult mammal. Do you remember my bit about the Second Coming Project?

• 2:10:46Speaker 03

  No.

• 2:10:47Speaker 02

  What's the Second Coming Project?

• 2:10:48Joe Rogan?

  Second Coming Project was they were going to take genetic material from the Shroud of Turin and they were going to clone Jesus.

• 2:10:54Speaker 03

  Is that real?

• 2:10:55Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, there was, it was kind of maybe parody, but it was like a thing that was being reported online that they were trying to do this, but it might've been bullshit. So my thing was that like, well, Dolly the sheep, they had to do it a bunch of times because it didn't work the first few times.

• 2:11:07Speaker 03

  It was fucked up.

• 2:11:08Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Like, and I was like, what if they cloned Jesus and he comes back fucked up? Like, do they keep him? You know, like, what do they do? Do they abort him? Do they start again? You know?

• 2:11:20Speaker 02

  Yeah, thorny legal issues.

• 2:11:21Joe Rogan?

  The whole thing is like, instead of wearing a cross, everybody would be wearing a hockey helmet. They would all be like imitating Jesus. Instead of like turning water into wine, he would turn dog shit into cookies.

• 2:11:29Speaker 03

  That is warped.

• 2:11:30Joe Rogan?

  It was a fucked up bitch. It was such a fucked up bitch. It was, it was basically a Down syndrome Jesus.

• 2:11:36Speaker 03

  Wow.

• 2:11:36Joe Rogan?

  This lady got so mad at me at the Comedy Store, she yelled out, next subject. She was in the front row. She was Christian. She was a little mad. I was like, listen, we're just exploring ideas here. Come on.

• 2:11:47Speaker 03

  I mean, it's feasible. I mean, don't they?

• 2:11:49Joe Rogan?

  Well, that's the thing. If they did do it. So look, let's imagine the Shroud of Turin is legit. I don't know if it's legit. Let's imagine.

• 2:11:55Speaker 02

  It's got some squeezins in it.

• 2:11:57Joe Rogan?

  Let's imagine that there's some, there's some blood on the shroud of Turin, right? From his wounds and they can somehow or another extract genetic material, which I don't think they can, but if they could, and they could clone Jesus. Imagine if they literally had Jesus's blood in a vial somewhere in the Vatican.

• 2:12:12Speaker 03

  And that's the second coming.

• 2:12:13Joe Rogan?

  The actual blood of Jesus. And that's the second coming, someone figures out how to clone him.

• 2:12:17Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:12:17Joe Rogan?

  But what if you do it in the first few, don't work?

• 2:12:19Speaker 03

  Don't work. You're not gonna get rid of them, you're just gonna like, put them in the basement of the Vatican, right?

• 2:12:24Joe Rogan?

  You've got Down Syndrome Jesus in the bunker somewhere.

• 2:12:27Speaker 03

  But don't they have, isn't Paul buried in like?

• 2:12:30Speaker 02

  It's supposed to be Peter.

• 2:12:31Speaker 03

  Is it Peter is there?

• 2:12:32Joe Rogan?

  Paul never even met Jesus.

• 2:12:34Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:12:35Joe Rogan?

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• 2:15:02Speaker 02

  We better change his name.

• 2:15:04Joe Rogan?

  The Paul stuff is crazy.

• 2:15:05Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:15:06Joe Rogan?

  Cause he pretended, yeah.

• 2:15:08Speaker 02

  You know what?

• 2:15:09Speaker 03

  But the epistles are pretty good, man. I mean, they're, like, whoever wrote those was clearly mystical. Like, they're very mystical, they're very...

• 2:15:16Speaker 02

  What do you mean?

• 2:15:17Speaker 03

  I mean, when I read the epistles, like...

• 2:15:19Joe Rogan?

  I think people have had mystical thoughts and philosophies for a long, long...

• 2:15:24Speaker 02

  What does mystical mean?

• 2:15:26Speaker 03

  Are you serious?

• 2:15:27Speaker 02

  What does it mean? I don't know.

• 2:15:29Speaker 03

  Mystical.

• 2:15:30Speaker 02

  Yeah, what's that mean?

• 2:15:31Speaker 03

  I mean, you...

• 2:15:32Joe Rogan?

  Well, let's get the exact definition, so we don't even mince words.

• 2:15:34Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 2:15:35Joe Rogan?

  What does mystical mean?

• 2:15:37Speaker 02

  I didn't even wanna pick up the baculum for it.

• 2:15:38Joe Rogan?

  Let's ask perplexity.

• 2:15:40Speaker 03

  So that's perplexity, mystical means?

• 2:15:43Joe Rogan?

  Cause if you ask me to describe it, it's like, if you ask a liberal to describe fascism, they panic.

• 2:15:50Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:15:51Joe Rogan?

  Fucking fascist, fucking, what does that mean? Mystical is an adjective meaning spiritually significant or connected to a reality beyond ordinary senses and understanding, especially a felt, direct connection with God, the divine or ultimate reality.

• 2:16:08Speaker 02

  It also has a looser meaning. I thought it had to do with mystery, was what mystical meant.

• 2:16:13Joe Rogan?

  It is sort of connected, right? Because it's all a mystery.

• 2:16:15Speaker 02

  The epistles is in the letters from Paul to the congregation you're talking about? I thought that was just like, you guys are doing this wrong.

• 2:16:20Speaker 03

  To the early churches.

• 2:16:21Speaker 02

  Stop doing this, do more of this. I thought that, that's what I remember from having to read the Bible a lot.

• 2:16:25Speaker 03

  When you read that stuff...

• 2:16:26Speaker 02

  Twenty times I read it.

• 2:16:27Speaker 03

  Oh, look, you, listen, I mean...

• 2:16:29Speaker 02

  Not cause I wanted to.

• 2:16:30Speaker 03

  Let's say when you read Terence McKenna, right? I would consider a lot of his writing to be mystical. He had transcendent experiences and he articulated them in a way that if you've ever done DMT, it can almost bring you back to that state.

• 2:16:41Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:16:42Speaker 03

  When I read the epistles, I don't know what's going on, other than the person writing that has clearly had a mystical...

• 2:16:49Speaker 02

  What's an example of a mystical thing?

• 2:16:50Speaker 03

  A mystical experience.

• 2:16:51Speaker 02

  Well, he did, cause he saw Jesus without me, you know, my guys, right?

• 2:16:53Speaker 03

  His consciousness has been shifted.

• 2:16:55Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but did he? See, that's the thing, if you were gonna run a cult and you were gonna explain to people why they had to listen to you, what better way than say that you had a transcendent mystical experience where you talked to Jesus? So you're just taking the guy's word for it, that he met Jesus on the road to Damascus.

• 2:17:10Speaker 02

  And that's why people, everybody wants to be Jesus, but how come nobody says they're Paul? That's my goal.

• 2:17:15Joe Rogan?

  Well, Paul killed a bunch of Christians and burned churches for a long time before he turned.

• 2:17:20Speaker 02

  Guys, great work, I'll take it from here.

• 2:17:21Speaker 03

  That's what's incredible about the story. But do you know about Christian existentialism?

• 2:17:24Joe Rogan?

  What does that mean?

• 2:17:25Speaker 03

  Like, Dostoevsky was into this. Like, in The Brothers Karamazov, he breaks down the road to Damascus experience and he talks about what happened in that moment. So like, what you, the angle you're taking, he takes it like in this hardcore way, he's like, what happened? Let's say it was Jesus who appeared to him. Did Jesus touch him? And, and some kind of magical energy went into Paul and made him, or Saul?

• 2:17:47Speaker 02

  He made him blind.

• 2:17:48Speaker 03

  And made him a better person? Dostoevsky says, if that's the case, who gives a fuck? It's nothing. There was no free will, no autonomy, it's just like, like putting dye in water, who cares?

• 2:18:00Speaker 02

  Wait, wait, wait, wait.

• 2:18:01Speaker 03

  Wait, hold on, let me finish.

• 2:18:02Speaker 02

  You're not telling us, shut the fuck up!

• 2:18:03Speaker 03

  The, the, at that moment, at that moment, Saul had some kind of experience and made the existential decision to stop being a piece of shit. And that's all that matters. Like, in Christian existentialism, the idea is the mystical, the magical, all that stuff is secondary to human free will, to autonomy, that Jesus, God, Krishna, whoever name you wanna give it, has no real potency to change you. You have to change yourself. You make the decision to change and anyone can have the road to Damascus experience at any moment. You can make up any story you want about it, but that's what's beautiful about being

• 2:18:43Speaker 03

  human, is that at any moment, you can radically, dramatically transform into something better. That's how Dostoevsky breaks it down.

• 2:18:52Speaker 02

  Did you ever read the story? Here's what happened to Paul. He sees Jesus and gets struck blind, he loses his eyesight. Then he goes to a Christian who restores his eyesight miraculously, where he tells him about what happened.

• 2:19:03Joe Rogan?

  Sounds real.

• 2:19:04Speaker 02

  Yeah, but what I'm saying is, in the story, that's what happened. How are you leaving that out?

• 2:19:08Speaker 03

  But if you take it literally, but it's not, I mean, like, if you look at it, like, the blindness represents the state most people exist in, which is that they're completely blind to the mystical, transcendent reality, that you exist in a, a world where you are being watched by the divine and loved by the divine, but you're blind to that and if you're blinded at, then you're gonna end up throwing rocks at people and shit, because you're gonna be crazy.

• 2:19:33Joe Rogan?

  Isn't that part of the problem with scripture, though, is these weird interpretations? Where everybody has different interpretations of what they really meant in those words.

• 2:19:41Speaker 02

  Some crazy ones flying around today.

• 2:19:43Speaker 03

  I think, I think that's what's... I think that's, I think that's what's beautiful about it.

• 2:19:48Joe Rogan?

  Fucking the shuckalokes, or whatever the hell those things are.

• 2:19:51Speaker 02

  It's a historical thing that exists!

• 2:19:52Speaker 03

  How did someone who talks about fucking pygmies mutants assassinate people?

• 2:19:57Joe Rogan?

  They take babies and they convert them into UFO pilots.

• 2:20:00Speaker 03

  Oh, but Paul on the road to Damascus is bullshit. We got fucking pygmies flying UFOs through Area 51.

• 2:20:07Speaker 02

  No, I didn't say that, I said your explanation was. Stop bringing this narcissism into this house.

• 2:20:13Joe Rogan?

  That's what all those things are, those Nazis, those, the different NHIs, they're all fake and gay.

• 2:20:19Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 2:20:20Speaker 02

  I think that's the fairest assessment you're gonna get.

• 2:20:22Speaker 03

  And AI is not real.

• 2:20:23Speaker 02

  I'm no Neil deGrasse Tyson, but I'll tell you this.

• 2:20:25Speaker 03

  Look, I don't know, but I do think part of what's cool about any of the scriptures, whatever it is, is you've been, it's a puzzle box that you work with, with your mind, and then that, the idea is not to get stuck in 2D space anyway. The idea is that whatever it is you're reading moves you to the point of reaching out to the transcendent, to the divine reality, to God, and then in that reaching out, a connection happens, and then in that connection, there could be a transformation that happens. But if you, getting caught up in the words is like, a small part of it.

• 2:20:59Joe Rogan?

  What did they, what were they teaching you when you were in Jehovah's Witnesses? Like, what, what do they follow?

• 2:21:03Speaker 02

  Just the Bible, it's like a Protestant, I guess, type of religion, but it's, it's all, the Bible's the ultimate authority.

• 2:21:10Joe Rogan?

  Right, but it's all distorted, right? Like, the Jehovah's Witness version of it.

• 2:21:14Speaker 02

  Everybody's distorted, which way are you speaking of?

• 2:21:15Joe Rogan?

  Well, you always speak of it like it was a cult, right?

• 2:21:18Speaker 02

  Okay, a cult means you have to do it. That's how I define a cult. You actually, like, he could be a Catholic and say all that shit, don't matter, you're not getting kicked out. If you have to do the religion or they kick you out, I consider that a cult, that's what I'm saying. So, I don't like saying cult, cause people are like, oh, it means like Jim Jones, it don't mean that necessarily, but they're all pathworking things. But what they taught, that's probably different than most, is you couldn't join the military or vote, or you had to be no part of this world, which Christ did say.

• 2:21:44Joe Rogan?

  That was a Jehovah Witness thing.

• 2:21:45Speaker 02

  Right, and the reason was, was to keep us from, uh, let's say, like, somebody comes into power and our church was voting for the other candidate or some nonsense, right? That creates problems, it looks bad, and it turns people off to Christ when you're, I mean, nobody makes more Satanists than the churches, right? Nobody, I'm talking about a Satanist factory, that's most of the churches in America, right?

• 2:22:07Joe Rogan?

  They make Satanists?

• 2:22:09Speaker 02

  Yeah, people that are like, fuck this, I hate it now, right?

• 2:22:12Joe Rogan?

  Okay, so if you have a bad church, you think you create Satanists, right?

• 2:22:16Speaker 02

  Well, I know you do, that's what Al Sear Crowley is. Plymouth Brethren, his mother sucked, she, she was the worst.

• 2:22:21Joe Rogan?

  We'll go to that in a moment. So, explain the Jehovah's Witness philosophy, so they...

• 2:22:26Speaker 02

  Well, Christ, you couldn't be in the military or, or go...

• 2:22:29Joe Rogan?

  You couldn't participate in society, in voting, you couldn't...

• 2:22:33Speaker 02

  You couldn't do that part of it, it's...

• 2:22:34Joe Rogan?

  Couldn't join the military?

• 2:22:35Speaker 02

  Right.

• 2:22:36Speaker 03

  What about paying taxes?

• 2:22:37Speaker 02

  No, you had to do that, Jesus said you have to do that.

• 2:22:39Joe Rogan?

  Did they get religious exemptions from the draft during Vietnam?

• 2:22:42Speaker 02

  I had, yeah, so you would get a minister deferment and you, but you might have, they might call you anyway, and then you can't run to Canada, you have to go to jail. Cause the law's the law, you broke it, so you have to go to jail, just, you know.

• 2:22:53Joe Rogan?

  So Jehovah's Witnesses would just go to jail, rather than joining the army?

• 2:22:58Speaker 02

  Right, yup.

• 2:22:59Joe Rogan?

  Wow.

• 2:23:00Speaker 02

  So you had to do that, and I remember...

• 2:23:01Joe Rogan?

  Oh, shit.

• 2:23:02Speaker 02

  Yeah, so, and, and it, it's an interesting thing, cause the guy that founded it, we didn't worship him as a prophet or something. Um, but the guy-

• 2:23:10Speaker 03

  Who founded it?

• 2:23:11Speaker 02

  Charles Russell, and he's a, a-

• 2:23:13Joe Rogan?

  What, what year was this?

• 2:23:15Speaker 02

  Eighteen sixty something, I guess, um, but it wasn't called that at first. They all come out of the same area in Albany, the, the, uh, uh, and then down the river, they call it the psychic corridor. And that's where all the spiritualism Mormons-

• 2:23:28Joe Rogan?

  The psychic corridor?

• 2:23:29Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's from Albany down to, uh-

• 2:23:31Joe Rogan?

  Whoa, that's the dude.

• 2:23:32Speaker 03

  Wow, look at that.

• 2:23:33Speaker 02

  Now, they didn't make this guy, but-

• 2:23:35Speaker 03

  He looks cool.

• 2:23:36Speaker 02

  Yo, he had a black pyramid-

• 2:23:37Joe Rogan?

  Everybody's wife.

• 2:23:38Speaker 03

  Did he fuck wives?

• 2:23:39Joe Rogan?

  Hundred percent. Look at him. Look at him.

• 2:23:42Speaker 02

  You're saying that's a wife fucker beer?

• 2:23:43Joe Rogan?

  Smile. Go back up to that picture.

• 2:23:45Speaker 02

  Like I just fucked your wife?

• 2:23:46Joe Rogan?

  Go back up to that past picture? The, the other one that you showed?

• 2:23:50Speaker 02

  I, I think he was more of a con man considered by, uh, history than anything like that.

• 2:23:54Joe Rogan?

  That one. That one. That's a guy who fucks your wife.

• 2:23:56Speaker 03

  I'm wearing your wife's underwear.

• 2:23:57Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he's wearing it right now. He's wearing her shoes.

• 2:23:59Speaker 02

  That is the look.

• 2:24:00Joe Rogan?

  He's got his stinky sweaty feet in your wife's shoes.

• 2:24:02Speaker 02

  Look, I gotta say, uh, what's his name over there? It looks like he's giving me the same look. I mean, uh, we can project whatever we want onto these people. He was big into pyramids.

• 2:24:11Joe Rogan?

  You think Art Bell fucks your wife?

• 2:24:12Speaker 02

  Look at that picture. He's like, what?

• 2:24:13Joe Rogan?

  No, he's-

• 2:24:14Speaker 02

  Oh, he's like, what are you blaming me for? I don't fuck wives.

• 2:24:16Joe Rogan?

  Someone's on the phone and they're talking about aliens. He's interested. That guy fucks your wife.

• 2:24:20Speaker 02

  Anyway, he, his family arose, he used to have a pyramid. See that pyramid? It used to be his grave. They moved it now. There it is.

• 2:24:26Speaker 03

  That's his grave?

• 2:24:27Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah. He was a big pyramid guy.

• 2:24:28Speaker 03

  What?

• 2:24:29Speaker 02

  Jehovah's Witnesses don't subscribe to that, but I think he subscribed to it because he was Rosie Crusian.

• 2:24:33Joe Rogan?

  So, he was the founder of the Jehovah's Witness and he had a pyramid for a tombstone?

• 2:24:38Speaker 02

  He was obsessed. Well, they're all obsessed with pyramids back then, but guess what? Um, the final initiation, when you go to these stupid like O T O and Golden Dawn or any of these wizard schools is to invent a religion.

• 2:24:48Speaker 03

  Wizard schools?

• 2:24:49Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's so great.

• 2:24:50Joe Rogan?

  The finer thing is you invent your own religion?

• 2:24:52Speaker 02

  L Ron Hubbard was in the O T O and he invented a religion that was very successful. Nexium guy. There's a video you can find, a, a guy that was doing the a cappella thing they were doing where he'd make them all sing a cappella? And the girl from Smallville got obsessed with being this a cappella show?

• 2:25:07Joe Rogan?

  I didn't, I, I never paid attention to that.

• 2:25:09Speaker 03

  I didn't know Hubbard was in the O T O.

• 2:25:11Speaker 02

  He, you don't know about him and Jack Par- I mean, it's such like a-

• 2:25:14Speaker 03

  Well, no, Crowley said that he thought Hubbard was a con man.

• 2:25:17Speaker 02

  After he was mad at them for doing the Babylon workouts.

• 2:25:20Speaker 03

  I guess Parsons got him into the O T O. I see what you're saying. Yeah, I got you.

• 2:25:24Speaker 02

  And then he would say he infiltrated a group of Satanists, L Ron Hubbard. He's talking about Parsons' group where he stole the guy's girlfriend and his boat.

• 2:25:30Speaker 03

  Basically like Scientology's a reworking of the Thelma, right?

• 2:25:34Speaker 02

  They're all the same fucking thing. They're, they're all based on Kabbalah, but they're mind, it's like mind, uh, palace techniques and mnemonic devices. Anyway. Yeah.

• 2:25:44Joe Rogan?

  So the O T O stands for Ordo Templi Orientis.

• 2:25:48Speaker 02

  Right, but what does a wizard do? It's, they, they make a religion. So America's lousy with religions that come out of Albany. The Mormons come out of there, the Seventh Day Adventists come out of there, the Jehovah's come out of there, the, I mean, a bunch of them.

• 2:26:00Speaker 03

  Speaking of banging your wife, pull up a picture of Jack Par-

• 2:26:03Joe Rogan?

  Hold on, hold on. So what do you think, why do you think they're doing that? Why do you think they all come out of that one area? Do you think this is all engineered?

• 2:26:10Speaker 02

  Uh, well, engineered by these kind of societies where that, that's the, the goal, if you're in these, these kind of groups, by the way, is control and enslavement of other people. They're, they're like, the Levite church, by the way, that, that lies and says like, oh, they're atheist. Nah, they're about some, they're about, uh, N L P, which is like pickup artist Andrew Tate bullshit, like pimpin'. That's what pimping is, like a mind control, right? They're all about that.

• 2:26:35Joe Rogan?

  Wait a minute, neuro-linguistic programming is pimping?

• 2:26:38Speaker 02

  What's a, pimping is a form of, of N L P. It's, it's a subset of it, I would say.

• 2:26:43Joe Rogan?

  Okay, so it's mind control. Makes sense. Okay.

• 2:26:46Speaker 02

  Mind control, I, I know people feel like that's a weird term, but I mean, it's, where you call propaganda, you call it advertising, you call it marketing. The Bernays School of Marketing.

• 2:26:56Joe Rogan?

  Well, for, clearly people hypnotize people.

• 2:26:58Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:26:58Joe Rogan?

  Clearly Manchurian candidates was something that really worked on.

• 2:27:01Speaker 02

  That's right. And, and why do we need that? We need people that are killers and spies and seductresses that don't know they're doing it. Because if they're captured, they won't say nothing, right?

• 2:27:10Joe Rogan?

  Or at the very least, you can get them to do something that they would never agree to do ordinarily, and if they get captured, who gives a fuck? You got them to do the task.

• 2:27:18Speaker 03

  Right.

• 2:27:19Speaker 02

  And we saw a bunch of those fake, dude, I, I don't believe-

• 2:27:21Joe Rogan?

  Suicide bombers.

• 2:27:22Speaker 03

  Sure.

• 2:27:23Speaker 02

  That's a great one.

• 2:27:23Speaker 03

  Classic example.

• 2:27:24Joe Rogan?

  It's ultimate example.

• 2:27:25Speaker 02

  Or how about all the fake, uh, crash dummies that went at Trump? The one hit, the one, dude, I can't even count all the fake ones.

• 2:27:31Joe Rogan?

  Wait a minute.

• 2:27:32Speaker 02

  The one at the White House?

• 2:27:33Joe Rogan?

  Crash dummies?

• 2:27:34Speaker 02

  The guy that ran through naked that they tackled that Dana White was there? Everybody got down?

• 2:27:38Joe Rogan?

  No, he wasn't naked. That, that's the guy with the gun?

• 2:27:41Speaker 02

  Yeah, why was he in the picture? I had no shirt on. And then so put Lindsey Graham on top of him in a meme.

• 2:27:45Joe Rogan?

  This, I think that guy was a school teacher. He was like a crazy liberal school teacher and he brought a gun, tried to, but hold on a second.

• 2:27:52Speaker 02

  If you believe the lone nut thing, I can't help you.

• 2:27:54Joe Rogan?

  But there are some lone nuts.

• 2:27:56Speaker 02

  Sure, but I, I don't know which ones they are. Um, but of course, there's gotta be, and the goal is, of course, to have remote triggerable nuts. If you think of these social media things like your Blue Sky or your Threads, what do you think? You've got people of a like mindset.

• 2:28:10Speaker 03

  Don't point to me when you say Threads. I've seen-

• 2:28:12Joe Rogan?

  Why'd you point to Duncan?

• 2:28:13Speaker 03

  Cause I sent a link to Threads and he thinks, I don't go on Threads.

• 2:28:15Joe Rogan?

  I told you I won't read it.

• 2:28:16Speaker 02

  I know, that's why, that is why I pointed it out. You were right to call me out, cause that's why, that's why I did it. So you got your group right there. Remember Cambridge Analytica? They made a big deal about that.

• 2:28:26Joe Rogan?

  Okay, in what way?

• 2:28:27Speaker 02

  Cambridge Analytica, when Brexit happened, I think Sebastian Kumbalbunch played the guy-

• 2:28:31Joe Rogan?

  Hold that, Jamie, for a second.

• 2:28:33Speaker 02

  What they were studying is how do we get the message to the people that it's, they're gonna respond to it and get them mobilized, right? That's Cambridge Analytica. Do you remember that?

• 2:28:40Joe Rogan?

  I don't remember what Cambridge Analytica was about.

• 2:28:42Speaker 03

  I've heard about it a million times though.

• 2:28:44Speaker 02

  It was when Trump won and then Brexit happened. It was because online, people were mobilized by this thing that was like seeing your likes, the shit they use now to sell you a TV on your phone. They were using to affect that vote with Brexit. I mean, I, you remember this, right? If you put, just put it up, I guess, in refresher. But, so Cambridge Analytica is very famous. There you go.

• 2:29:04Joe Rogan?

  So, Facebook Cambridge Analytica data scandal was a major two thousand and eighteen data privacy crisis involving the British political consulting firm, Cambridge Analytica and social media giant Facebook. So what happened? Data harvesting. Okay.

• 2:29:17Speaker 02

  Regular stuff now.

• 2:29:18Joe Rogan?

  The app used Facebook's API to collect data not only from the users who took the quiz, but also from millions of their Facebook friends without explicit consent. The data of up to eighty seven million Facebook profiles was improperly obtained and handed over to Cambridge Analytica. Cambridge Analytica use, uh, psychographic profiles built from this data to assist political campaigns, including Donald Trump's and Ted Cruz's two thousand and sixteen U S presidential campaigns.

• 2:29:45Speaker 02

  Which is how you know it's from something in Tel Aviv, probably.

• 2:29:48Speaker 03

  That is fucked up.

• 2:29:49Speaker 02

  So, that, that, we've progressed since then. You know how far, you've heard of geo-fencing, right?

• 2:29:53Speaker 03

  Sure.

• 2:29:54Joe Rogan?

  Okay, what's geo-fencing?

• 2:29:55Speaker 02

  You know, where, uh, uh, they, they do stuff with your cell phone. So a lot of the churches, there's a big story that like, uh, I don't know if it was Mossad or who it was, is geo-fencing the Christian churches to like, there you go.

• 2:30:06Joe Rogan?

  A location-based technology that creates a virtual boundary or fence around a real world geographic area using GPS, Wi-Fi, cellular data or RFID. When a mobile device or tagged asset enters, leaves, or dwells within this defined perimeter, the system automatically triggers a pre-programmed action.

• 2:30:27Speaker 02

  So they're using it to spy on churches here.

• 2:30:29Joe Rogan?

  This is so exhausting.

• 2:30:30Speaker 03

  But weren't they using it like algorithmically to, like, if you're in that area, you're gonna start seeing shit on your phone? They want you to see-

• 2:30:36Speaker 02

  That's exactly right. That's exactly right. So that's, that's, um-

• 2:30:38Joe Rogan?

  So creepy. Everywhere you look, you're getting fucked. It's, it's so exhausting.

• 2:30:42Speaker 03

  Especially if you have your phone, is what you're looking at.

• 2:30:44Speaker 02

  Uh, here's what I don't get. It's like, it's so, I mean, uh, it seems not hard, but if you have a principle like, hey, I think you're not allowed to starve kids to death, uh, because you think it's advantageous in a war.

• 2:30:54Joe Rogan?

  That seems reasonable.

• 2:30:55Speaker 02

  You know, it seems fucked up actually if you, uh, ask around and you'd never be appointed to anything, and in fact, someone would hire a cutout to oppose you if you ever did try to run for anything.

• 2:31:03Joe Rogan?

  You're talking about Palestine?

• 2:31:04Speaker 04

  Cambridge Analytica resulted in a five billion dollar fine to Meta slash Facebook. Uh, just this week, they got a twenty five billion dollar penalty from a New Mexico state court.

• 2:31:13Speaker 03

  Wow.

• 2:31:15Speaker 02

  Wow. Oh, that's cause they were harvesting you. So that's the, that's the value.

• 2:31:18Joe Rogan?

  But this is recently?

• 2:31:19Speaker 04

  Yeah, this was just this week. I was just-

• 2:31:20Speaker 02

  So this is why we need the A I data centers.

• 2:31:22Joe Rogan?

  Just this week, a New Mexico state court, uh, ordered Meta to pay twenty five billion dollars after a jury found the company misled state residents about a Davis, about its data privacy practices. That's tied to data analytical, or Cambridge Analytica.

• 2:31:37Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm. Uh, look up, look up, uh, Gideon. Okay, it's called Gideon and, um, it's, um, so remember when they said there was a Homeland Security or a ICE office in Tel Aviv? And, and I remember on Jimmy's show, we covered him like, oh, what are they training them to like break their arms better or something? No. That's, um, it's like only legal to have the thing there. So, remote neural monitoring, that's the thing. Remember I showed you the, your mind-reading headphones last time?

• 2:32:02Speaker 03

  Creepy.

• 2:32:03Speaker 02

  You don't need headphones for that. Your phone could, your, your whole body could be used as a circuit. Your phone can, I've never had my phone read my mind, but many people will tell you that's happened. Where they thought of something. That's because they just studied the patterns of your brain makes and they translate it and the A I, A I helps with that.

• 2:32:18Joe Rogan?

  So your phone can read your mind for real?

• 2:32:20Speaker 02

  Well, yeah, in, in interpreting neural patterns, you understand? So, they've, for a lot of people, it'll be accurate, probably not for everybody's, my guess, but I don't know all the ins and outs of it, but what I do know is that Gideon thing in the A I centers, that's, that's what they're gonna be doing.

• 2:32:35Joe Rogan?

  I think I'm gonna get a flip phone.

• 2:32:36Speaker 03

  Dude, I think it's the move. I think it's the move.

• 2:32:39Joe Rogan?

  I'm gonna get a flip phone and I'm gonna use my regular phone just to like, get online, check my email, but I'm gonna just-

• 2:32:45Speaker 03

  I think it's the move.

• 2:32:45Joe Rogan?

  Put it away and say, just call me.

• 2:32:47Speaker 02

  There's no reason not to have lock-in in that, right?

• 2:32:50Joe Rogan?

  You got nothing to hide. Somebody actually said that once. I had a conversation with a guy that I actually kind of respected. And he was talking about the NSA and the Edward Snowden shit, and he goes, if you don't have anything to hide, who gives a shit? I was like, what are you saying? How do you, how can you really say that?

• 2:33:07Speaker 02

  We better fight against communism, I guess.

• 2:33:09Joe Rogan?

  Israeli startup aims to revolutionize security screening with A I-powered weapon scanner.

• 2:33:14Speaker 02

  You gotta look up Gideon. That's the one.

• 2:33:16Speaker 04

  That's how I got to it.

• 2:33:17Joe Rogan?

  Scanner says it's radar-based tech developed by a former radar engineer of I- Iron Dome can screen 25,000 people per hour to detect threats in stadiums, transit hubs and airports.

• 2:33:28Speaker 03

  Scannery.

• 2:33:29Joe Rogan?

  How is it screening them? What is it screening them for?

• 2:33:32Speaker 02

  Circumcision, probably.

• 2:33:33Joe Rogan?

  So, look, it knows that this guy has a gun on him and knows that guy has a knife on him. How does it know that?

• 2:33:37Speaker 03

  What else does it know?

• 2:33:38Speaker 04

  Have you been to a sporting event in like the last couple of years where you don't have to go through a metal detector anymore?

• 2:33:42Joe Rogan?

  No.

• 2:33:43Speaker 04

  Oh, well, I have.

• 2:33:44Joe Rogan?

  Really?

• 2:33:45Speaker 04

  Yeah, I specifically in Columbus at Cruz Stadium, there's like a group of people watching everyone walk through these scanners and they're they'll stop one person maybe out of like 30 or 40 to just double check something that maybe they got like a red like they might be seeing something like this.

• 2:33:59Joe Rogan?

  So you think as these people are walking, there's some sort of technology that can scan your bag as you're walking?

• 2:34:05Speaker 03

  They're probably seeing through your clothes.

• 2:34:07Speaker 04

  Yeah, so there was a, I didn't, this was not as good, but it's

• 2:34:12Joe Rogan?

  Wouldn't they just keep you from wearing a backpack?

• 2:34:15Speaker 02

  Well, this isn't, this is the show to, that's for you to keep you safe, but it's not. It's to keep the powers that be safe from you. That's what the real purpose is, always.

• 2:34:25Joe Rogan?

  Okay, settle down.

• 2:34:26Speaker 04

  This video is showing just, I've seen this on other things online, how AI is being used to monitor different security feeds, if you will.

• 2:34:35Speaker 02

  Yo, the cops just

• 2:34:36Speaker 04

  Like with Flock cameras, I guess.

• 2:34:37Speaker 02

  Regular cops, by the way.

• 2:34:38Joe Rogan?

  Hang on, Kurt, let him talk. What?

• 2:34:40Speaker 04

  It's just like Flock and other companies like Flock, they, they can throw the AI systems on top of the security footage to start tracking things and just making notes, put them in databases, go back and check things over time.

• 2:34:51Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:34:51Speaker 04

  Someone wants to check where you've been throughout the day, they can go find you.

• 2:34:54Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that creeps the fuck out of me. And that was one of the things about the Flock cameras is so crazy when you found out how many different people had access to it.

• 2:35:01Speaker 03

  Terrible.

• 2:35:01Joe Rogan?

  Like how many cops were using it to like, they were using it to spy on chicks they were trying to date. It was like spying on their ex.

• 2:35:10Speaker 03

  Stalking.

• 2:35:10Joe Rogan?

  Stalking ladies.

• 2:35:11Speaker 03

  Fucking stalking people.

• 2:35:13Joe Rogan?

  And then people that they had like disagreements with, like find them. They were doing, they had access to it. Were you like, how does like a cop just log in? And have access to this stuff? It should be like very difficult to get access for the average person. You should have a fucking need to look at that.

• 2:35:29Speaker 03

  But now, think of the merger of this tech and just basic advertising, right? So I'm Flock monitoring everybody. And you're like in the area of my store, about to go on my competitor's store. I noticed that you go to my competitor's store. What if I could start feeding your algorithm commercials for my store instead of my competitor's store?

• 2:35:49Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:35:50Speaker 03

  Then add to that, state propaganda, the geo fencing stuff, which is I've identified that you go to this place. The people at this place have this political ideology. What if we can start feeding you a real subtle series of things through meta that will shift your thinking or make you feel like the way you think is fucking insane?

• 2:36:12Joe Rogan?

  Have you seen Robert Epstein's work that he's done with Google searches, curated Google searches?

• 2:36:16Speaker 03

  No.

• 2:36:16Joe Rogan?

  Very interesting.

• 2:36:17Speaker 02

  We had him on Jimmy.

• 2:36:18Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he's been on here a couple of times. So what he's shown is that they use curated uh, Google searches to completely shift your perceptive, your perception of a political campaign.

• 2:36:28Speaker 03

  Wow.

• 2:36:29Joe Rogan?

  So like, say if you, um, if you were against like Talarico.

• 2:36:32Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:36:33Joe Rogan?

  You would look up James Talarico and you'd immediately be fed stories about him being able to name his favorite drag queen instantaneously. Him having 11-year-old drag queens on stage with him. It would do something that freak you out.

• 2:36:47Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:36:47Joe Rogan?

  Or the opposite, if you, you Google Ken Paxton, immediately show you corruption. Immediately show you lawsuits, immediately show you all these negative hit pieces written on them. So when they do that, they can shift like noticeably, like what was the percentage, like 30% of people that are in the middle on the fence? They could shift in one way or the other.

• 2:37:08Speaker 03

  So you make this with, sorry Joe, I'm sorry. You make this with Cambridge Analytica.

• 2:37:11Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 2:37:12Speaker 03

  I'm so sorry. Oh my God. That's so dystopian.

• 2:37:15Joe Rogan?

  There's well so many different ways to do this. The Cambridge Analytica way, the Google search way. So searches are curated, right? If you Google Donald Trump, you don't get just any story on Donald Trump. You would get the negative ones first. And then if you Google Hillary Clinton, you'd get Secretary of State, humanitarian, oh, you know, Clinton Foundation, all the good stuff. And the whole idea is to shift perceptions and amongst people that are on the fence, which is a giant percentage of the population. They're not undecided.

• 2:37:44Speaker 03

  Right.

• 2:37:45Joe Rogan?

  You can shift them, but like 30%, like a very high level of, and you can completely change an election one way or the other that was like neck and neck.

• 2:37:52Speaker 03

  And that kind of tech should be illegal. Like clearly that should be illegal and it's not. It's propaganda. But of the most insidious

• 2:38:00Speaker 02

  It was made legal in 2015.

• 2:38:00Joe Rogan?

  That's the problem with Obama, when they passed the Smith-Mundt thing.

• 2:38:04Speaker 02

  Modernization Act, yeah.

• 2:38:05Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. What they did was they essentially legalized propaganda so that they could protect us.

• 2:38:11Speaker 02

  They just wanted to bring baseball to Cuba.

• 2:38:13Joe Rogan?

  They wanted to make sure that we could use the same sort of propaganda we use overseas on Americans.

• 2:38:18Speaker 03

  Oh my God.

• 2:38:18Joe Rogan?

  Because we gotta protect people.

• 2:38:20Speaker 03

  Oh my God.

• 2:38:20Joe Rogan?

  Duncan.

• 2:38:21Speaker 03

  So fucked up.

• 2:38:22Joe Rogan?

  It's so crazy. Like there's so much manipulation. And then also, just think about this conversation, like how many times Kurt's brought something, I'm like, what? What is that?

• 2:38:29Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:38:30Joe Rogan?

  Like there's too many things you're getting fucked with.

• 2:38:33Speaker 03

  Right.

• 2:38:33Joe Rogan?

  Whether it's glyphosate or atrazine, is making the frogs gay, whatever the fuck is happening, there's too much to keep track of.

• 2:38:40Speaker 03

  Right.

• 2:38:41Joe Rogan?

  There's too many things.

• 2:38:42Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:38:43Joe Rogan?

  There's too many stories. There's the, what was the child, Franklin scandal. There's too many of these fucking stories where you're like, how many can I pay attention to?

• 2:38:51Speaker 02

  Well, how much will you tolerate? Uh, I'm guessing they could do it to you forever.

• 2:38:56Joe Rogan?

  Well, who's they? The thing is like there's a bunch of different groups of people. They're in bunch of, involved in a bunch of different types of manipulation and propaganda.

• 2:39:05Speaker 02

  There's a pyramid that goes up, of course. Since we have this CRISPR gene editing for quite some time, longer than they've told you. I'll bet there's all kinds of Olympians at the top of the heap.

• 2:39:15Joe Rogan?

  Oh, where are we going with this?

• 2:39:17Speaker 03

  Gods among us.

• 2:39:19Speaker 02

  Well, not among you, but I'm just saying, you've got people with no oversight that can do whatever they want. Who is the guy that said we control time and space when Trump got in?

• 2:39:26Joe Rogan?

  I'm just amazed that these guys had the courage to come out and say they fucked Lindsey Graham after he was dead.

• 2:39:30Speaker 03

  Why would you do that? What's the benefit of that?

• 2:39:32Speaker 02

  Bumps on his fucking taint.

• 2:39:34Joe Rogan?

  Those guys are heroes.

• 2:39:36Speaker 03

  For fucking a great American hero?

• 2:39:38Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, well, for, for coming out bravely after his death.

• 2:39:41Speaker 02

  That's called being a good sex worker, it is.

• 2:39:43Speaker 03

  And for pleasuring one of the greatest.

• 2:39:45Joe Rogan?

  They could have done it while he was alive and that would have been wrong.

• 2:39:48Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:39:48Joe Rogan?

  Or they just kept their mouth shut forever and we would have never known.

• 2:39:51Speaker 03

  Right.

• 2:39:52Joe Rogan?

  We would have never known that Lindsey Graham was gay.

• 2:39:54Speaker 03

  Ever.

• 2:39:54Joe Rogan?

  I would have never guessed.

• 2:39:55Speaker 03

  Never would have guessed.

• 2:39:56Joe Rogan?

  I never would have believed it.

• 2:39:57Speaker 02

  He's a, he's a right man.

• 2:39:58Joe Rogan?

  I'm still incredulous.

• 2:40:00Speaker 03

  It's propaganda.

• 2:40:01Speaker 02

  I don't believe it. I'm gonna be honest.

• 2:40:02Speaker 03

  It's not real.

• 2:40:03Joe Rogan?

  Imagine those brave characters that got together, all of them, and said, you know what? Let's come out and let's say we fucked him.

• 2:40:09Speaker 02

  People need to learn that Republicans are gay.

• 2:40:13Joe Rogan?

  There's a lot of them.

• 2:40:13Speaker 02

  You know, nobody would have ever guessed that Republicans are gay.

• 2:40:16Joe Rogan?

  I think there's a lot of like, that's one of the big rumors about Washington is there's a lot of closeted gay Republicans.

• 2:40:23Speaker 03

  Remember when those dudes, how do you know?

• 2:40:25Speaker 02

  Except Pete Buttigieg for some reason. That guy's faking it.

• 2:40:28Joe Rogan?

  Remember that he's faking it? You think he's a fake gay?

• 2:40:30Speaker 02

  I don't know. Tucker said it on Jimmy's show one time.

• 2:40:32Joe Rogan?

  He said he's a fake gay?

• 2:40:33Speaker 02

  He said that's the rumor on K Street.

• 2:40:35Speaker 03

  What?

• 2:40:36Joe Rogan?

  Tucker just says shit sometimes.

• 2:40:38Speaker 02

  Hey, I'm not, I'm just gonna trust the science on this one, because that's hilarious. Why is he doing it?

• 2:40:42Joe Rogan?

  Tucker says that nuclear bombs weren't created by people.

• 2:40:44Speaker 03

  Who created them?

• 2:40:45Joe Rogan?

  I don't know, but that's what he said. He said, I don't believe people made them. I'll never believe that, despite what they tell me. Well, what?

• 2:40:51Speaker 03

  Who made them?

• 2:40:52Joe Rogan?

  Demons.

• 2:40:53Speaker 02

  He's talking, yeah.

• 2:40:54Joe Rogan?

  He got attacked by a demon in his sleep.

• 2:40:56Speaker 03

  I don't doubt that. I've been attacked by demons in my sleep.

• 2:40:59Joe Rogan?

  Really?

• 2:41:00Speaker 03

  Sure.

• 2:41:01Speaker 02

  Do you mind if I say it?

• 2:41:02Joe Rogan?

  He got clawed though?

• 2:41:03Speaker 03

  What?

• 2:41:03Joe Rogan?

  He actually got marks on him.

• 2:41:05Speaker 03

  I know, I don't think I ever got a claw mark, but I've definitely tried to fall asleep on acid. I get attacked by demons.

• 2:41:11Joe Rogan?

  Tucker is very clever. And I think he's almost like doing a very, he's doing like a little subtle fiction occasionally, like throws things in there for funsies.

• 2:41:22Speaker 03

  Concept journal.

• 2:41:23Speaker 02

  You think he doesn't believe in anything?

• 2:41:24Joe Rogan?

  Little bit. No, no, no. That's not what I'm saying at all.

• 2:41:26Speaker 02

  Because if you're Christian, you believe in demons.

• 2:41:27Joe Rogan?

  I do not, no, no, no, no, that's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is like, there's some things that he says, I'm like, I don't know if you're like, like, you don't think nuclear bombs are made by people? Like what?

• 2:41:38Speaker 02

  He's saying the intelligence behind it, they channeled something, the way they got our rockets from doing jerking off in the desert and looking at each other's eyes.

• 2:41:45Joe Rogan?

  What?

• 2:41:46Speaker 03

  Yeah, Jack Parsons.

• 2:41:47Joe Rogan?

  Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.

• 2:41:48Speaker 02

  How do you not know this?

• 2:41:49Joe Rogan?

  They jerked off and looked at each other's eyes? I know Jack Parsons was

• 2:41:52Speaker 02

  I'm being glib, but

• 2:41:53Joe Rogan?

  Well, Jack Parsons was a Satanist, right? Like a legitimate Satanist.

• 2:41:56Speaker 02

  That's the father of our, that and the Nazis.

• 2:41:58Speaker 03

  He wasn't a Satanist.

• 2:42:00Joe Rogan?

  He wasn't?

• 2:42:01Speaker 03

  No, he was a Thalamite. He was a, he was a student of Crowley.

• 2:42:04Joe Rogan?

  Sex cult Antichrist.

• 2:42:06Speaker 02

  Satan just means the enemy of man.

• 2:42:08Joe Rogan?

  Oh, I thought he was like a Satanist.

• 2:42:10Speaker 03

  No, well, I mean, people lump in, that's the problem is people like are kind of illiterate when it comes to all the different like

• 2:42:16Joe Rogan?

  He's sex crazed.

• 2:42:18Speaker 03

  He wasn't a Satanist.

• 2:42:19Joe Rogan?

  Sex? Duncan, what is sex crazed?

• 2:42:22Speaker 03

  That doesn't mean you're a Satanist.

• 2:42:23Joe Rogan?

  This means you just like to fuck?

• 2:42:24Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:42:25Joe Rogan?

  You think about it a lot.

• 2:42:26Speaker 02

  My momma said Satanist is a Satanist.

• 2:42:28Joe Rogan?

  Like how they sell you cars.

• 2:42:29Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:42:30Joe Rogan?

  Like Sydney Sweeney, sell those sports apps.

• 2:42:33Speaker 03

  Fuck, yeah.

• 2:42:33Joe Rogan?

  What are we, sex crazed?

• 2:42:34Speaker 02

  She's some Mossad honey trap bullshit. You know that? You saw that?

• 2:42:36Speaker 03

  Well, thank you Mossad.

• 2:42:38Speaker 02

  Like all the actresses and actors, they're all fucking puppies to somebody.

• 2:42:40Joe Rogan?

  I thought they were all aliens or babies or something.

• 2:42:43Speaker 02

  Why do you think that? No one said that.

• 2:42:47Joe Rogan?

  What are we looking at, Jamie?

• 2:42:48Speaker 04

  I'm trying to just find something good in here.

• 2:42:49Speaker 02

  Scientology is based on this cult, Parsons is powered up, that's right.

• 2:42:52Joe Rogan?

  Oh, really?

• 2:42:53Speaker 02

  Ellen Hubbard said he infiltrated a group of Satanists, he's talking about this guy.

• 2:42:55Joe Rogan?

  Oh, God, this is too much. This is like we were talking about, I think you might be working for the government to overthrow us with information.

• 2:43:01Speaker 03

  Look at his outfit.

• 2:43:02Joe Rogan?

  He's overwhelming us with this, you took your CIA vest off, how come?

• 2:43:06Speaker 02

  It was very hot, it was too hot. Also, I thought Jamie could tell I was wearing a wire, and I was like, oh, fuck it, I'm not doing it.

• 2:43:15Speaker 02

  I look over, I see Jamie looking at me, and I got spooked.

• 2:43:18Joe Rogan?

  So we don't want to wear the headphones?

• 2:43:19Speaker 02

  Over.

• 2:43:19Speaker 03

  He doesn't want to wear the headphones.

• 2:43:21Speaker 02

  No, they fall off because my hat.

• 2:43:22Joe Rogan?

  I mean, this is one of the things that I've said about you, like, from working with Jimmy, it's like you were normal, like, three, four years ago. And then, like, something happened to you with, like, the amount of fucking conspiracies you were confronted with.

• 2:43:33Speaker 02

  No, no, no, no, no, no, just news, again.

• 2:43:36Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:43:37Speaker 02

  The tocoloshings is my fun time.

• 2:43:38Joe Rogan?

  Conspiracies, I don't want to say, like, I don't mean, like, fake things.

• 2:43:41Speaker 02

  I mean, the disaster that is current events on a daily basis.

• 2:43:44Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 2:43:44Speaker 02

  The daily trauma.

• 2:43:45Joe Rogan?

  And then the true reality behind these current events.

• 2:43:47Speaker 02

  Is horrific.

• 2:43:47Joe Rogan?

  Terrific.

• 2:43:48Speaker 02

  And so, once you see how bad it is, and you see the kind of criminal organization that you're having this administered to you by, you have to be a fool, it's like, I don't think, John, I don't think the mafia, actually, the Italian mafia is better than these people by a lot, I mean, credit where credit is due, nowhere near as vile, and and the level of trafficking of humans and just your money and everything is, is, they can never stop. The way Roblox can never stop letting pedos on, because it'll, it'll ruin their fucking.

• 2:44:16Joe Rogan?

  The way they can't stop using glyphosate in your food supply.

• 2:44:18Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:44:18Joe Rogan?

  Otherwise, they can't get your food.

• 2:44:20Speaker 03

  Right.

• 2:44:20Speaker 02

  That's what Epstein is.

• 2:44:21Joe Rogan?

  You have to poison your food, or you got no food.

• 2:44:22Speaker 03

  Right.

• 2:44:22Speaker 02

  Epstein's a minor node in a thing that's way bigger than him, obviously. We were with Eric Weinstein at the UT, and he goes, do you think he was the main guy? I go, no. He goes, if it all ever came out, it would end the world. And I go, oh, no!

• 2:44:37Joe Rogan?

  Weinstein said that?

• 2:44:38Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:44:38Joe Rogan?

  He loves that kind of talk. He loves, him and his brother, they both love cloak and dagger talk.

• 2:44:42Speaker 02

  You see their, you see his brother's mentor's email, speaking of tocoloshes, Dr. Trivers, you see his fucking weirdo emails to Epstein about?

• 2:44:49Joe Rogan?

  What?

• 2:44:50Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:44:50Joe Rogan?

  Who's that?

• 2:44:51Speaker 02

  Robert Trivers, the mentor of, uh, uh, the better Weinstein. Yeah, Brett's, Brett's mentor, yeah.

• 2:44:58Joe Rogan?

  What do you mean?

• 2:44:59Speaker 02

  So, Robert Trivers, the email about how you can manipulate a kid, you give him tits and dick.

• 2:45:03Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah. By the way, it's Weinstein, not Weinstein.

• 2:45:05Speaker 03

  Oh, whoops, I've been saying it wrong.

• 2:45:07Joe Rogan?

  Don't say it like Harvey.

• 2:45:08Speaker 03

  Fuck.

• 2:45:09Joe Rogan?

  Harvey Weinstein, Brett Weinstein.

• 2:45:11Speaker 03

  Weinstein, he's a Stein.

• 2:45:12Speaker 02

  It's better. It's like that guy, Robert Reich. Remember Robert?

• 2:45:16Joe Rogan?

  Like Steven Seagal, it's not Steven Seagal. Get it.

• 2:45:20Speaker 03

  Got it, sorry, I said it wrong.

• 2:45:22Joe Rogan?

  Emails revealed Epstein encouraged controversial scientists to study transgender biology.

• 2:45:29Speaker 03

  What fucked up thing did Epstein not do?

• 2:45:32Speaker 02

  But they're all, dude, the, transhumanism, the transgender thing is a stepping stone to transhumanism.

• 2:45:38Speaker 03

  Right.

• 2:45:39Speaker 02

  That's why it doesn't make any sense, where they're like, we want to eliminate categories, but if I'm like, I feel like a woman, and you eliminate the category of woman, what are you just making me into, nothing, like?

• 2:45:47Joe Rogan?

  What?

• 2:45:48Speaker 02

  Transhumanism is the goal, not transgender, that's a little stepping stone for the transhumanist movement.

• 2:45:54Joe Rogan?

  But what about autogynophilia?

• 2:45:56Speaker 02

  Well, what about it? What's wrong with that?

• 2:45:58Joe Rogan?

  Well, that's what a lot of transgenderism is.

• 2:46:02Speaker 03

  Yeah, but Metzger's pointing out.

• 2:46:03Speaker 02

  The pushing of it by, by oligarchs, which is what that was, that wasn't a thing that was that common, but they push it, that email's about that.

• 2:46:12Joe Rogan?

  So, the emails about oligarchs pushing transgender ideology.

• 2:46:16Speaker 02

  No, that's even grosser, that, that email.

• 2:46:18Speaker 03

  Okay, but for what? I think it's bigger than that, I think it's like, you know, think of, like, Kurzweil's idea of nanobots disassembling and reassembling our bodies.

• 2:46:26Joe Rogan?

  So, Nicholas located an email which Trivers thanked Epstein for extra money and appointment as an advisor to your foundation. Epstein responded, I want to see you, you, I guess your, piece on transgender in the bio world. Two months later, Trivers respond, responded and said he was getting to the end of transsexuality.

• 2:46:51Speaker 02

  Second paragraph's the one.

• 2:46:52Joe Rogan?

  Says, Trivers continued to make dehumanizing comments about trans women. Including, if you as a heterosexual male and have a minor desire to suck a dick, then what better organism to do it with than a transsexual? How is that dehumanizing?

• 2:47:10Speaker 02

  To call them an organism?

• 2:47:11Joe Rogan?

  Says, she will smell like a woman, be softer and more hairless like a woman, and may, to some degree, actually resemble one morphologically, leaving the dick for you to enjoy in a feminine setting. How is that dehumanizing?

• 2:47:28Speaker 03

  What a nerd.

• 2:47:28Speaker 02

  Because of the organism, what better organism?

• 2:47:31Speaker 03

  That's how a scientist writes about blowing it.

• 2:47:33Speaker 02

  But also, whoever wrote this is not really getting to the heart of it.

• 2:47:35Joe Rogan?

  Also, this is a private emails, like, how is that dehumanizing? It says it again, it says, Trivers and Epstein once again corresponded about trans people in dehumanizing ways. Is this like Trans Times Weekly that this is in?

• 2:47:46Speaker 02

  Yeah, this is a really bad.

• 2:47:48Speaker 04

  It is from them.us.

• 2:47:49Joe Rogan?

  Okay, what is that?

• 2:47:51Speaker 02

  Why are you putting my pronouns?

• 2:47:53Joe Rogan?

  Jesus Christ, why are you sending us here?

• 2:47:56Speaker 04

  Well, it's, I was trying to find the phone.

• 2:47:58Joe Rogan?

  But this, all this dehumanizing chitter chatter, like, shut your.

• 2:48:00Speaker 03

  Calling someone an organism is not dehumanizing.

• 2:48:02Joe Rogan?

  It's just, it's like bullshit talk.

• 2:48:05Speaker 03

  We are organisms.

• 2:48:05Speaker 02

  I'm not gay, they're gay, I just want them to be softer and have a dick to suck.

• 2:48:08Joe Rogan?

  That's normal.

• 2:48:10Speaker 03

  Yeah, scientific, really.

• 2:48:12Joe Rogan?

  That's what kids talk in college.

• 2:48:13Speaker 03

  Scientific, why don't we just shut down science?

• 2:48:15Speaker 02

  I'm just talking to my friend, Jeffrey Epstein.

• 2:48:16Joe Rogan?

  If you want to get in with the right people in college, you have to talk like that.

• 2:48:19Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:48:20Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, you gotta suck that woman dick.

• 2:48:21Speaker 03

  What's wrong with that?

• 2:48:23Speaker 02

  What's wrong with a little Bridget McCrone?

• 2:48:27Joe Rogan?

  That one, like, where's that lawsuit? Like, they keep saying they're gonna sue Candace?

• 2:48:30Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:48:31Joe Rogan?

  I think she's winning that one.

• 2:48:33Speaker 02

  Yo, you know she has a dick.

• 2:48:35Joe Rogan?

  Take it, like, go, do it live, chromosomes.

• 2:48:37Speaker 03

  Who cares if she has a dick?

• 2:48:39Speaker 02

  Are you Lady Gaga, I can.

• 2:48:40Speaker 03

  What difference does it make?

• 2:48:41Joe Rogan?

  Well, because it's a different thing between a 40-year-old woman fucking a 14-year-old boy.

• 2:48:45Speaker 03

  That's fucked up.

• 2:48:46Joe Rogan?

  And a 40-year-old man fucking a 14-year-old boy.

• 2:48:47Speaker 02

  Especially if it's his dad secretly.

• 2:48:49Joe Rogan?

  What?

• 2:48:50Speaker 02

  It might be his dad.

• 2:48:52Joe Rogan?

  It might be his dad, McCrone's dad?

• 2:48:54Speaker 03

  Wait, what?

• 2:48:55Joe Rogan?

  What?

• 2:48:55Speaker 02

  Well, I don't know that it is for sure, but, yeah.

• 2:48:57Joe Rogan?

  Who said this one? Is this a Candace one? Or is it somebody else's thoughts?

• 2:49:00Speaker 02

  Well, no, Candace was taking stuff from French reporters, and she says that when she was reporting.

• 2:49:05Joe Rogan?

  That it might be his own father.

• 2:49:07Speaker 02

  Yeah, dude, I don't want to get you in trouble by bringing up the, the good billionaires, the Rothschilds, who have not done anything wrong, and only, I only hate Peter Thiel. I would never talk about the Soros boy, or the Rothschilds, or anybody else that could be construed, I make that clear.

• 2:49:22Speaker 03

  Good, thank you for making that clear.

• 2:49:23Joe Rogan?

  What does this have to do with McCrone's dick?

• 2:49:24Speaker 02

  Because they're related, he's like a Rothschild banking guy.

• 2:49:27Joe Rogan?

  Have you seen him sit down? Her, sit down?

• 2:49:30Speaker 03

  No.

• 2:49:30Joe Rogan?

  The way, the way she sits down, like a dude.

• 2:49:32Speaker 02

  It looks like David Spade sitting down.

• 2:49:34Joe Rogan?

  There's, there's no way.

• 2:49:34Speaker 03

  Could be.

• 2:49:35Joe Rogan?

  Guys don't sit that way.

• 2:49:36Speaker 03

  Could be, but I do think the pedophilia part gets left out.

• 2:49:39Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:49:40Speaker 03

  Like, it's somehow.

• 2:49:41Joe Rogan?

  The pedophilia part is very different. So, like, pedophilia for, like, a 40-year-old woman and a 14-year-old boy?

• 2:49:47Speaker 03

  Fucked up.

• 2:49:47Joe Rogan?

  It's a little fucked up, but whatever, she sucks his dick, who cares? But the difference between that and a 40-year-old man, a 40-year-old man and a 14-year-old boy freaks people out.

• 2:49:57Speaker 03

  Right.

• 2:49:58Joe Rogan?

  Rightly so.

• 2:49:58Speaker 03

  Right.

• 2:49:59Joe Rogan?

  Like, when you hear about a schoolteacher that fucks some quarterback, like, who cares?

• 2:50:02Speaker 03

  Remember the Galifinakis joke?

• 2:50:04Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, yeah, his buddies high-fived him to death.

• 2:50:08Joe Rogan?

  Great joke.

• 2:50:10Speaker 02

  I know somebody that I happened with.

• 2:50:12Joe Rogan?

  Oh, I bet you do.

• 2:50:13Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:50:14Joe Rogan?

  Is his name Kurt Metzger?

• 2:50:16Speaker 02

  Me, no. No.

• 2:50:19Joe Rogan?

  But you know what I'm saying? Like, if a teacher is having sex with her quarterback, you know, you know, probably you're gonna break the kid's heart, fuck his head up.

• 2:50:28Speaker 02

  What class is this?

• 2:50:29Joe Rogan?

  But he's gonna be fine. But, but if you find out that, like, the football coach is fucking one of the, the 15-year-old cheerleaders, you want him in a cage. It's a different feeling, right? It's a different feeling. A 45-year-old football coach is banging a 15-year-old cheerleader, like, string him up.

• 2:50:44Speaker 03

  All right, look, I'm not, I'm not, I'm sorry, it's gonna seem like I'm trying to go woke here, but I remember doing some fucking joke on stage about this subject, right? Talking about this, the difference, whatever, edgelording, it's a long time ago, stupid joke, it wasn't funny at all, but this dude comes up to me after the show, and he's like, I got, when I was a kid, when I was like, like, 12 or something, I got fucked by an adult woman, and he's like, and it fucked me up, and I'm still fucked up, like, it actually.

• 2:51:11Speaker 02

  Well, I know people that it fucked them up, because that's a very.

• 2:51:13Speaker 03

  It fucks you up, it's too much.

• 2:51:14Joe Rogan?

  No, no, no, it definitely fucks you up.

• 2:51:16Speaker 03

  It wrecks you, and like, and though I don't doubt, like, let me tell you, when I was 14, that, I would, that would be like God coming into my life to give me a hot teacher to fuck, so I get what you're, you know what I mean? Like, I was licking, I was licking.

• 2:51:31Speaker 02

  I would have been fucked up.

• 2:51:32Speaker 03

  I was licking Hustler pages, you know, I was like, so horny, but.

• 2:51:36Joe Rogan?

  Remember Hot for Teacher?

• 2:51:37Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, but I think it wrecks, it wrecks some people, it wrecks people.

• 2:51:41Speaker 02

  If that happened to me, I would have messed up from it, because I was a church kid, very innocent, and so, you know, I mean, there was dudes in my school that had, like, mustaches and families working on it, but like, I wasn't that, so.

• 2:51:52Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:51:53Speaker 02

  That, I think it's very individual.

• 2:51:55Joe Rogan?

  It certainly is.

• 2:51:56Speaker 02

  What was how bad it would.

• 2:51:57Joe Rogan?

  Not ideal.

• 2:51:57Speaker 02

  There's a law for a reason.

• 2:51:59Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:51:59Speaker 02

  I don't give it, now, when people go, oh, she's only 19, and that guy is however, I don't give a shit.

• 2:52:04Joe Rogan?

  Like, think about that lady that fucked her, her student, or the young boy. And then, he was a young guy.

• 2:52:11Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:52:11Joe Rogan?

  And then she went to jail, and then when they got him out, like, they had a family together?

• 2:52:15Speaker 02

  Yeah, and they became the leaders of France. I believe, no, I'm joking. Same, same story, different outcome.

• 2:52:20Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's not always, it's, it's, I mean-

• 2:52:22Joe Rogan?

  It's not ideal.

• 2:52:23Speaker 03

  It's not ideal. I mean, I would be pissed, I mean, imagine if you heard that happen to your kid, you know?

• 2:52:27Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:52:27Speaker 03

  You know, that's, it's fucked up. It's like, there's just too much power to manipulate some poor teen, you know?

• 2:52:34Joe Rogan?

  Of course.

• 2:52:34Speaker 03

  It's fucked up.

• 2:52:35Joe Rogan?

  Especially with those big juicy tits.

• 2:52:36Speaker 03

  Oh, god, I would have loved it, though.

• 2:52:39Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, what's her name again?

• 2:52:40Speaker 04

  Mary Kayla Turner.

• 2:52:41Joe Rogan?

  That's right, Mary Kayla Turner.

• 2:52:43Speaker 02

  Wait, are those their kids?

• 2:52:44Speaker 03

  They made a beautiful family.

• 2:52:45Speaker 04

  It says they got separated, this is like 10 years ago.

• 2:52:48Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, they separated.

• 2:52:49Speaker 03

  21 years is a good run.

• 2:52:50Joe Rogan?

  Well, they eventually grew up and realized, oh my god, she was fucking crazy.

• 2:52:53Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:52:54Joe Rogan?

  Why was she banging me when I was 14?

• 2:52:55Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:52:55Joe Rogan?

  Fuck.

• 2:52:57Speaker 03

  Or maybe she, he just got too old for it.

• 2:52:59Joe Rogan?

  Boys, I gotta pee, let's wrap this up.

• 2:53:01Speaker 03

  Alright, let's wrap it up.

• 2:53:02Joe Rogan?

  Mystery Boys is an awesome podcast, you guys are great together.

• 2:53:04Speaker 03

  Thanks, man.

• 2:53:05Joe Rogan?

  Legitimately, like, it's, I'm so glad you guys decided to do it, I knew it was gonna be huge from the beginning, I was like, this is gonna click.

• 2:53:11Speaker 03

  Thanks, Joe. Thanks, man.

• 2:53:12Joe Rogan?

  Good luck with your fake dick.

• 2:53:15Speaker 02

  I know, I feel, it's, now that I know there's a real one-

• 2:53:18Joe Rogan?

  We'll swap, and we won't tell anybody, I'll give you a real one on the way out, and you can leave that one behind.

• 2:53:22Speaker 02

  I just wanna feel the heft of it.

• 2:53:23Speaker 03

  Wow, that's a gift.

• 2:53:24Joe Rogan?

  Just 'cause I love you.

• 2:53:25Speaker 03

  Oh my god, take the real baculum!

• 2:53:27Joe Rogan?

  I'm gonna give you the real walrus dick, and you can leave the fake one, and no one will know.

• 2:53:31Speaker 02

  Jenna doesn't want me to have it, but-

• 2:53:33Joe Rogan?

  She doesn't want you to have the fake one, or the real one.

• 2:53:35Speaker 02

  I just like to position her as, as being against me having a walrus dick in my-

• 2:53:38Speaker 03

  That's it!

• 2:53:40Joe Rogan?

  Alright.

• 2:53:41Speaker 03

  You're the best, Joe.

• 2:53:42Joe Rogan?

  And your show, one more time, tell everybody the YouTube thing.

• 2:53:44Speaker 02

  The Experts on YouTube right now is pretty funny, man, I, I'm telling you.

• 2:53:47Joe Rogan?

  Mystery Boys, look at that, that's awesome.

• 2:53:49Speaker 02

  Yeah, we, we gotta make our Based Ho Shop shirts.

• 2:53:52Speaker 03

  Yes, we do.

• 2:53:53Joe Rogan?

  Based Ho?

• 2:53:54Speaker 02

  You know, like Bass Ho, Bass Pro Shop?

• 2:53:56Joe Rogan?

  Oh.

• 2:53:56Speaker 02

  This is Based Ho Shop.

• 2:53:59Speaker 02

  And I have a female Olenus.

• 2:54:00Speaker 03

  It looks great.

• 2:54:01Joe Rogan?

  Instead of a bass?

• 2:54:03Speaker 02

  It's that Olenus with the fish body from, uh, The Atlantic, you know, uh, being on him, but it's a chick.

• 2:54:08Speaker 03

  When does this come out?

• 2:54:10Joe Rogan?

  Tomorrow.

• 2:54:10Speaker 03

  Oh, can I plug a show?

• 2:54:11Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 2:54:12Speaker 03

  I'm gonna be at Mic Drop Comedy in Detroit tomorrow.

• 2:54:16Joe Rogan?

  Is that the same as Mic Drop in San Diego? Is it the same company?

• 2:54:19Speaker 03

  I think so, I'm not positive about that, though. Friday, Saturday, and Sunday, so-

• 2:54:23Joe Rogan?

  This, this Friday, Saturday, and Sunday?

• 2:54:24Speaker 03

  Yeah, tomorrow, I'm gonna be there tomorrow.

• 2:54:26Joe Rogan?

  There it is.

• 2:54:27Speaker 03

  Thanks, man.

• 2:54:28Joe Rogan?

  Detroit House of Comedy, it says.

• 2:54:29Speaker 02

  I like playing Detroit.

• 2:54:30Speaker 03

  That's weird, I thought it was-

• 2:54:31Speaker 02

  Detroit's a good town to play in.

• 2:54:32Joe Rogan?

  You don't even know where the fuck you're going.

• 2:54:33Speaker 03

  It's Mic Drop Comedy, I don't know why I'm saying that, that's what it is, Mic Drop Comedy.

• 2:54:37Joe Rogan?

  Oh, okay.

• 2:54:38Speaker 03

  That's where I'm gonna be.

• 2:54:39Joe Rogan?

  Alright, bye, everybody.

• 2:54:40Speaker 03

  Bye!

• 2:54:54Joe Rogan?

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